Page 7 - Second Helpings - Look Down At The Poor People

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

This week the Jackie and MJ, who are NOT affiliated with the Daughters of the American Revolution, are back for some Second Helpings! Jackie gives an update on what happened to the Snackies from this week's Page 7, Sydney Sweeney's brother is supporting her or something dumb, but tig biddy has been big played out, and Jackie gives a less than stellar review of "Happy Gilmore 2" followed by a brief discussion of Adam Sandler crew's disappointing political beliefs. MJ and Jackie have another chat about the great Goop audiobook, and Kim Jong EW becomes a true tyrant as he has banned hot dogs from North Korea. Jackie was forced to go to a Primus show and had to deal with a bunch of Gen X edgelords, and a recent Phish concert in NYC made MJ realize Phish phans have hit middle age and sent them on a downward spiral. Wednesday season 2 dropped with a collab for an UNHAPPY Meal from Wendy,  and no one wants to wait in line at a Wendy's like that, man!  Walton Goggins did a sexeh ad for Doritos Golden Sriracha flavor, but Nicholas Hoult won't get any as he keeps getting told he's "too inbred looking." A trailer for the new "Running Man" reboot has dropped, featuring old Shark Mouth himself as the star, Matt Rife is gross and he leased Annabelle and the Estate for 5 years, so here's hoping she continues to take out her caretakers! Heinz and Smoothie King have collaborated to release a limited-edition "Heinz Tomato Ketchup Smoothie" because the world is a terrible terrible place, Anthony Hopkins is a great Instagram follow which Jackie happened to discover while watching the Hannibal TV series! And SO MUCH MORE!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And you damn right it will. How does it get better than working with old Gar co-creator Julia Johns? Yeah, that's girls are roommates. For those of you not thinking about what the hell Gar could be standing for. It's not, you know, daughters of the American Revolution. We're not surprised. We're not dar babies over here. I did know quite a few, though, back in the day, unfortunately.

Don't they put on big balls? Oh, they put on quite. A couple of cotillions out there that they got going on. You got a, man, it's all a lot of stiffness and not ever in the ways that you want it to be. It's not what I'm looking for. Honestly, D.A.R. also made me think, I mean, it was always like a Gilmore Girls thing for me. You never watched Gilmore Girls, right? Hi, MJ.

Hi, I'm just talking. Hi, Jackie. Welcome to Second Helping. Yeah, no, I have not watched Gilmore Girls. and I would if people told me to. I feel like, you know, I don't know if it's the kind of show that you start watching as like for the first time in your late 30s. I don't know. I have heard a lot of people be like it's like mother daughter goals, but then I've heard people respond to that.

Is it? That's fucked up because they have like a codependent relationship. Yeah, I, you know, I think it was mother daughter. for some for a while. Yeah. And I think that that may have, you know, I'm not going to use the word toxic, but like I think that it may have like pulled some wool over some sheep hooves or something, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

And I think that it lended a lot of people to be like, see, we should know this much about each other at all times, which, you know, do you really want to know that much about another person? Would I remember about Gilmore Girls? And this is so dumb and extremely self-centered. But I had, I think it was a friend. Go on. I mean, you never, all right, yeah. I love

tell me something dumb and self-centered. Yeah, fuck yeah. I think it was a friend. I don't think it was an adult, but some, I think it was my friend who loved Gilmore Girls who told me in high school that I looked like Alexis Bledel. And I was enraged by this. Like, I was

offended. And I'm now, I'm, this is this is going to be one of those times like last week when I told the story about how I realized like very much like Tina Faye. I wasn't the persecuted one. I was the bully when I was like, oh yeah. I hated sports camp. Why? Because I wouldn't stop telling everyone cheerleading wasn't a sport, which is so mean and not true. You're just like, oh, I was the wet, like it the whole time. I was I was fucked up. And I similarly, this, I used to give this friend so much shit for even like it, for all the shit she liked. She loved one tree hill. She loved Gilmore. more girls. Hell yeah. She loved Joan of Arcadia. Oh. And I was like, you drop on the good ones. And I was such an asshole, but then I'd be like, I guess I'll watch it when I'm at

your house, you know? But so anyway, I thought I was a real snooty patooty about her shows. And she told me that I look like Alexis Bladale. And I don't know why it enraged me so much. Alexis Bladell is fine. She has a weird mouth. You know what it is? I think it's in the eyes.

When the second you said it, I was like, you do both have like such beautiful sparkling blue eyes. And I think that I would assume that that is what this person was referencing. Not like a little mousy person who talks out of the side of her mouth all the time. Wow, what are you talking?

And see, this is now I'm being an asshole. Why do I need to attack Alexis Biddell just because somebody told me I looked like her. I don't need to be mean. Sometimes you got to put the barbs out there, you know. Do I need to project my own self loathing onto a completely innocent actor who's done nothing wrong?

You know, we've got to get it out somehow and you can't take it out against your family. So where else do you do it? And as long as it's, you know, you're not even typing it with your fingers, MJ. You're just, you know. I'm not going to go, like, comment on Alexis Pledell's Instagram and be like, you talk out of the side of your mouth. I wouldn't do that.

I'm being mean right now. I need to stop. I need to, you know, but again, I have been with my family nonstop for about 10 days. And I'm having a great time and I'm very sound mentally. Are you? You know, sometimes you hit a fever pitch. I just feel like, and I'm not, that's not a judge. against you, I think that anyone with your purely only your family for 10 days,

you know, it ebbs and flows. Some families have no issues whatsoever. And I say, isn't that boring? I think it's fun to have the spice of everybody coming in with their different, varied energies being like, okay, let's navigate these treacherous waters. But then, isn't it fun? The community of pirates that you then build among the... Thanks to yourselves.

And, arg, it's driving me nuts. Which, uh, that, yes, I am referring to the steering wheel down his pants joke. Remember? What's that from? I think about it all the time. Ah. Um, it is, uh, I think the joke is just, uh, what did, why did this pirate have a steering wheel down his pants?

And the punchline is, arg, it's driving me nuts. Ah. It says it's because of the steering wheels attached. It was nuts. You know, it is honestly a perfect joke it is not. But you can't always be on the top of your game, MJ, especially when you're busy in this life eating squashies. I need to bring up the squashies again. The squashes are the smarties that were soft that you and Julia tried on yesterday's show.

Am I right? Wow. I feel like you haven't been traumatized by the squashies in the way that I've been traumatized. by the squashes because I would never I try to say yes to things and I if I am in the studio I try to be game for things

but you know I won't drink the condiment cup and I won't try those squashies I put them in the same category wow the squashes are a no go for you because unfortunately MJ we did eat a lot more of those squashies

and Adam and I will say get being like really suffer I was just like it's crazy because I'm not I'm not so we kept eating them. What I didn't know is that I was eating them so hate ferociously that I put a couple in my mouth and I must have had hair like a chunk of my hair in my mouth while I was talking

and I got a bunch of squatchies stuck in my hair that I didn't recognize at first. In fact, I actually went upstairs and was talking to members. members of guar and then I realized that I had squashies in my hair and then I started trying to chunk rip out the squashies and then I like trying to suck on them to get like they're made it's essentially foam packing peanuts yeah how did it get so trapped in my hair I know I think that like you have to use I like you I used like dish so Like, I was like, I got the squashy's out. Yeah, no, I was going to say my children always have just a little bit of slime in their hair.

So I am familiar with the feeling of like lovingly running your hands through someone's hair and then being like, why is it crusty? Yeah, what is how? Except those are children, MJ. If my husband touches my hair asks me, why is it crusty? I don't know if we'll ever touch each other sexually ever again. And the air answer isn't even slime. It's because I was eating candy and the candy got in my hair. The candy got in my hair like I'm a child.

I was chewing the candy and the candy wasn't very good but I couldn't stop eating it. No, and I didn't know I had a bunch of hair. I was a bunch of hair. My mouth and I didn't even know. Oh, man. Well. Jeff, Jeff, I'm not. I'm a full grown adult.

That's, I mean, that's, that's, that's, I'm fine with it. I'd rather live in the world where we're talking about the, what are they called, squishies? Squashies, MJ, perfect branding. I do want to give a shout out to Emily over the Patreon, who does say, Jackie, your squashy snack is popular in the UK, and Taylor Swift loves the strawberry and cream flavor. Yeah, well, you know, listen, I'll talk about squashes because I'm going, I'm looking, what's the celebrity news of the week this week? And we are living in, how long has it been since we first talked about Sydney Sweeney? has been, I think, seven, eight days. And now we're just, it's bam.

We're in a seventh circle of hell about now her brother, front page news, Cindy Sweetie's brother doesn't think it's bad that Cindy Sweeney did the eugenics ad. And I'm just like, okay, what? Good. I'm so glad. What did we do to deserve this? Get me out of here. I'm at this point that I'm like, I don't even want to hear her name anymore.

Her name means nothing to me anymore. I never have, has. the door closed so quickly on someone, you know. No, it's given baldoni. We're talking about it. This is, like, we just had, like, remember how sick we were of seeing the name Blake lively every other second? Yeah, yeah, no, it's really.

This is what they do. You have torched the goodwill you had with me, Sydney Sweeney. You and your whole family can go fuck. And, you know, I, I know that there's a lot of people felt this way about all the Taylor Swift news in 2013. And I have to say, people come sometimes will ask, well, are you going to weigh in on what Taylor's up to now? And I got to be honest with you guys, I don't know and I don't want to know what Taylor Swift is up to now. I know there's still constant Kelsey Brothers news. And I know she's, I think that the reason I don't want to know is because I think Taylor Swift, you know, might be flirting with the devil in terms of, I mean, we get comments and emails every so often being like, do you think the Taylor is going maga? And I'm just like, you know what? I really don't want to engage with this. No.

Which celebrity who I once had fine feelings about is turning into a shithead now. You know, that's just every week. It is really crazy to see that like this is kind of opening doors now for, or at least that's what the internet is saying, that it is now opening the scary doors of like, oh, they don't even have to be hidden anymore. Cool. Everyone's just supporting them. We're supporting the Leonardo DiCaprio's because like that's the thing. The internet is essentially being like, okay, you were just at Bezos's wedding.

And at least then you had, according to the internet, the common decency to try to hide your face with a baseball hat. But now you go on his yacht open armed. It's like, is that, that's all you needed was for him to fame. that he didn't want to be seen. I'm so embarrassed that I'm at the Bezos wedding. I'm Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm wearing a hat. It's privacy.

If Leonardo DiCaprio didn't want to be seen at Bezos's wedding, he would have figured out a way to not have been seen at Bezos's wedding. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like you hit a certain level. That's the thing. Yes, I do think, and we did talk about this

with Jake at the time, but I'm revisiting this. What Jake was saying is that this is, you know, the kind of gilded age. We are in the, beginning of Les, like, where you just have to, like, you know, I don't, I hate to be like, choose aside, but if you have chosen to go to Jeff. Oh, you now have you ever been? Like, what is half? What year is it? Like, if you have chosen to go to Jeff Bezos's wedding, we're to go in his spaceship, looking at you, Katie Perry, it's over for you. It's over. It's over. You have

made your choice in these times. And, you know, so yeah, I, you chose actual evil. Like, you go see Superman, it's like you'll learn, you're choosing just true. It's like, but then some people look at Lex Luthor and go, yeah. Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Look at them go, you know. The sun never sets on that old Lex Luthor and isn't that kind of fun? Yeah.

And those people are scary and there's apparently a lot of them. Yeah. And, you know, it really does, man, try to give you a reason to frown every day, but there are some reasons to smile out there. This is our escape. This is our escape, especially, I will say you might not find that escape at the bottom of Happy Gilmore, too. Oh, God, did you see it? Well, I, I'm going to say that I shut it off, but not because it was so bad that I could not handle it anymore.

It was more of just like one of those things. It was like, let's watch it for a while and see what we think. And, you know, if we don't like it, well, just we'll jump ship because, you know, I'm not a completest. I'm not one of those. So it's streaming? It went right to streaming? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It went right.

It's right on Netflix. Got it, got it. It's a Netflix. And Adam Sandler is, you know, really trying to recreate the magic. The main problem was, is that we paused it. And it was one of those where we're like, it's only been 40 minutes. It was like that that we're like, we have an. hour and 10 minutes left of this.

Okay. The reason why I'm bringing it up is because you said Travis Kelsey and it was one of those, it was interesting to watch it almost back to back with naked gun because not that it's fair to compare the two in the same way where we don't want to compare the women in Hollywood. Yeah, I am comparing that to the comparing the women in Hollywood. Here at page seven, we love comparing. And Happy Gilmore, too, if we're going to compare, just doesn't even possibly match up to what Naked Gun just brought to this franchise.

And that's fine. I think even as good as Original Happy Gilmore was, I think that comparing original Naked Gun to original Happy Gilmore, they're two different flavors. Very different. Some people want, you know, a fine wine and some people want a bloodline line. Dumb stupid, dumb stupid. But honestly, both could be seen as such. I love both. I love a fine wine and I love a cheap wine.

I love Happy Gilmore. But you also forget, until you go back and rewatch the original Happy Goldmore, that that's also not joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke the way Naked Gun is. So like you're saying, MJ, very, it is apples to oranges. But it was interesting because I felt like a huge fundamental difference was Naked Gun relied on jokes, whereas Happy Gomore II relied on cameos. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. They just kept bringing in people to be like, but you see what we got to do this?

And it's like, and then Travis Kelsey shows up. It's like, okay. And bad bunny is the waiter. Yeah, it seems very self-aware. It's very, yes, it is. And I know that all Adam Sandler movies got to a point where it was like, it's an Adam Sandler movie. And you're here for it to be an Adam Sandler movie. And I've seen most of them.

I mean, I dropped off. I dropped off at around Little Nicky. but before that, I was there for it. I saw every Adam Sandler movie in the theater, you know, so I'm down for that. But yeah, it does seem, it does seem very, so yeah, very self-aware and very like, it's happy Gilmore 2 in 2025. Can you believe it? But, like, you know, that's fun.

I saw a family I know be like that my teen boys are working their way through the Adam Sandler catalog this summer. And I'm like, that's fun. Like, I would do that, you know, if I could. Oh. I mean, again, it will be fun for a short time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, some more fun than others and then trying to talk to the kids about like, well, you know, he's not actually the devil.

You see, just imagine trying to explain the plots of Adam Sandler movies via their questions about, like, you know, why do grasshoppers have eyes? It's like, oh, I wouldn't say that, like, as I hope to continue working my way through the film canon of, you know, classics with my kids, I do hope Adam Sandler movies. are on the list, but I don't feel that every Adam Sandler movie needs to be on the list. But yeah, Adam Sandler is kind of a baffling celebrity in this day and age too. I'm just looking at a story. I still love him, though. I know. And it seems like everybody loves him.

Also, what I really like in watching Happy Girl More 2, I think that I've just followed him on social media for such a long time that I was watching Happy Girl 2 and I was like, oh my God, that's his real life wife. And I was like, oh, my God, those are all his real life girls. And, like, he included his family and Happy Goalmore 2. It's, that's what I'm saying. I didn't like shut it off and a half. It was more of just like a, we ended up hitting like an hour and 10 and we're like,

ah, we're good. We're just going to watch some of us. But you know what's confusing? There are a bunch of stories about how he is a Trump supporter and like how he, like, you know, keeps casting Rob Schneider and stuff. But then also today in people, there's a story about how George Clooney loves him. And George Clooney said this film, it's not Happy Gilmore. It's a different movie called Jay Kelly.

they worked on. This film, more than any film Adam has done, shows what a beautiful, heartfelt, soulful actor he is. I kept telling the cast, don't call him Sandman. Don't talk to him like he's just some goofy comedian. He's actually a really beautiful, wonderful actor. And, you know, I trust George Clooney's judgment. But I'm like literally Googling it and that there's a lot of articles literally with the question mark, is Adam Sandler a Republican? And so I just want to put it out there because people wanted us to know that Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican. And I don't know whether this is true of Adam Sandler, but there are swirls about about this, about him, this being true about him. I imagine that we're going to be seeing many, many more

swirls as this starts to come out. Because they're all, especially people who've been really rich for a long time. Rich for a very long time. And unfortunately, man, you know who he's really helping out right now. I don't know if you guys know this, but apparently those rich people are really, they're making a couple bucks. Yeah, he rich people really love tax cuts, you know, as they tend to vote Republican. But yeah, so I was just, I thought that this George Clooney's story was cute. Like, George Clooney praises Adam Sandler after working together. He's not just a good comedian.

It's so, like, I was like, oh, that's nice. And then I was like, wait, what is going? Like, why do I keep seeing all these sinister stories about Adam Sandler. But then it's like, but he plays basketball. Yeah, right, right. I do love that he loves to play basketball with Timothy Shammlema Ding-Dong. I think it's a cute little friendship that they have. Yeah.

We don't know. We don't know. I don't know. And I wish that we didn't live in a time where it felt important to know everyone's for political registration. You know, I really don't, I really don't want this. This is not the world I was dreaming of. No, man.

No. This is not the world we're fighting for. But, but yeah, it does matter. It does matter. Yeah, but, you know, I am still sending the Rob Schneider jiff, you can do it! And I unfortunately used it yesterday to encourage somebody. I don't think he gets any money when you send that gift, so I think you can still use the gift. I think it's fine.

Like, I don't think I'm supporting him, but, you know, it's still a really, really works if you're trying to incite happiness in somebody, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And again, I'll, you know, I will watch. I mean, what would I say? The wedding singer is on the list of must watches. Big Daddy is on the list of must watches. Obviously, Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison. 50 first dates. I really like 50 first dates. I would do. Yeah. There's some good ones in there. Yeah. And then someday you'll move into the uncut gems. Maybe wait until the kids are like, I don't know, 11 or 12. Wait for you. Yeah, and then I just info dump on them about everything I learned about Julia Fox in Uncutt-Jut. I saw just like a random picture of Julia Fox, I think, on Dumois. And I was just like, I read her, I feel like we read her memoir.

And now I'm like, I know her. I feel the same way. I'm like, I love this bitch. Oh, there she is. Look at my bitch. We go way back. I know. I talk about Julia Fox like she's an old friend.

I do this with every memoir we've read, though. I know. I'm like, I'm bringing up Mike Sorrentino in like random. conversations just like and nobody cares i know it's really it is really bad i keep talking about the situation's book and people are like are you talking about the situation from jersey short i'm like hear me out it's a fantastic book about addiction we didn't come this far just come this far like do people not get that you got to turn your broken pieces into masterpieces i know i know i've the the celebrity memoir game is is destroying me um because i do i've loved all of them except for

Guadeth. You know, that is also not true. I think Prince Harry's, I really We hated Prince Harry's and we hated Halli's. And Hallarius was annoying, but at least it was fun. But the Goop thing, honestly, I, yesterday, and maybe I was hitting the jeebers, you know what I mean?

Like, I, while listening to the Goop story, and I really kind of got lost in thought because you really can. It lends itself to being lost in thought. It does. You stop paying attention. You got to really keep yourself on task when you're listening to the Gwyneth book. But it is interesting that, you know, maybe I should save this for celebrities.

But because we've now been talking about celebrity collabs so much more, and we've been seeing so many more celebrity collaborations, like some more fun than others, some, you know, even like with Rip and Sidney Sweetie apart, like this has become such a big part of, of what we talk about now, like the actual like PR strategies and we're watching this change in real time. But it's kind of crazy to think that Goop and MJ and I were both lamenting yesterday how much we hate writing out the name Gwyneth. And I refer to her only now as GP because I refuse to continue to write out Gwyneth. I had never spelled her name until yesterday. And I, and I went into a rage spiral just writing it out. I was like, that's how it's,

spelled? And the iPhone won't help you. It's not giving you any help. And you're just putting in WISE, you're putting in hands. I don't fucking know. Where's the E? Where's that? The Y, I needed a demonic device. Just to remember this bitch's name. And I refuse to. So now she's only going by GP. But GP really was weirdly collabing in a way back when I kind of forgot that celebrity collabs used to be looked down upon. And it used to be something like, oh, you deign to connect yourself with a company. And what I thought was an interesting perspective was talking about how,

but back then celebrities and movie stars could make so much more money off of residuals, off of the like the deals that they got in selling the movies that now celebrities don't get because there's just so many of them. and the idea of streaming has taken away all the ability for most actors, except for like, you know, the big ones and a lot of the huge ones that everybody knows. But outside of that, actors really, and a lot of people, I mean, in the arts, I think in general, obviously are being very, very hurt right now. Right.

But I can only specifically speak from that standpoint of like they're not making the same amount of continuous money. the way they used to. So they have to be doing collapse. Now they have to be doing these little things in between projects to keep the money flowing because they have a whole team of people that they have to constantly keep paid. That makes

total sense. Right? Yeah, that's why you are every... It's like in Prince Harry's book when he meets Megan Merkel and he's like, she wasn't just an actress. She was a one woman entrepreneur. She had a skincare brand. She had a nature brand. She had a travel blog. And that was, but, before that was being done, quote, unquote,

even though it was kind of at the same time as like the GPs and stuff like that, that they were all kind of like rising. I mean, not that GP would like it if I said that. But I feel, I just wanted to pepper that in because I know that we're going to be talking about other collabs today. And I thought that that was such an interesting little nugget to take away from, like she really was kind of doing something before other people or do. doing it. And you know what else is like hurting people with her vaginal eggs?

Yeah, hurting people with her vaginal age, steering people towards weird anti-medical. I mean, yes, the medical establishment has problems, but her extreme distrust of like, you know, evidence-based medicine is harmful. But what else pisses me off about her freaking book is that her, she's having a great news cycle about it. There's so much, there's a New York Times op-ed by the author, Amy O'Dell, why we believe Gweth Paltrow. It's never been entirely clear if Gwyneth Paltrow's in on the joke, especially if it's on her. She's so aloof. She's controlling of her image.

And there's another, a BBC article, her acid tongue is usually in her cheek, how Guadeth Paltrow became a divisive, defiant icon. And there's another one, lover or hater, you can't look away from Gweth Paltrow. And I'm just like, do we need to do this? Do we need to rehabilitate this woman's image? Like, I understand, do I understand the need for this long biography? This is a long, I keep calling. in a to tomb. It's like I may as well be spending this time learning about like Tolstoy or something,

you know, but like instead I'm learning about, I couldn't believe. I have four and a half hours left and I was like, four and a half hour left. I have so many hours left, Jackie. I don't know how I'm going to get it done before next week. I'm like, yeah, I really like, give me war and peace instead. But now she's just, she's just like relishing in this gigantic press, you know, and she didn't even participate in the book. And so I don't know. It's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm like a little bit annoyed that now we have to like hand it to her. Like love her or hate or you can't look away. Okay, what if I choose hate?

Yeah. Like I don't have like, like it's this. It's like, oh, everyone thinks she's annoying. But is she in on it? I don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Like I, why are we rehabilitating her? I just.

What is the defiance disorder now? I feel like she's got an adult version of the oppositional defiant disorder. Oppositional design disorder. Yeah, it's just more of like a, yeah, I did say, Descience. Well, she's one of those two. Descience disorder is another thing she has. Definitely.

You know, sometimes you just got to have somebody woo-woo over your bones and then up you're fixed. And that's it. She's putting that information out there. And man, talk about an anti-collab for the ages. You talking collabs? Kim Jong-un just banned hot dogs in North Korea. Oh, that's the collab you want to talk.

There's a couple of clubs we're going to talk about a day. No hot dogs in North Korea. Is it because of the health risks or is it because it's a choking hazard? Or is it because he doesn't want me coming there? And I understand that I am a formidable meat threat from beyond. And I get that. It's scary knowing that I'm out here on these streets as the hot dog ambassador of the southwest region of the United States. And it is, you know, especially with all that's like with the earthquakes happening and everything.

It's like, you know, the West Coast is about to do. just sloth off the side of the country. I don't know if you're in that world of TikToks right now, or if I'm just in the catastrophe doomsday section, and I really am having troubles getting out of me. Yeah, no, I'm not in that corner of TikTok. I don't need that. Oh, no, you're not reading about all the tectonic plates.

You're not reading about what's the shifting. There's a lot more activity than they really want, MJ. Is that true, or is that you got to know your sources, Jackie, just because it's TikTok doesn't. I mean, it's true. TikTok knows what it's doing. And I know that because it's like, how else am I supposed to find information? Right.

Yeah, no, it's a good jury's out on that. Thank you for understanding. I like that you sent this story about Kim Jong-un with the caption, oh, it's like, tell me, how could a dictator get more annoying? Which I think that's fun about North Korea. Also, did you like it? I made myself laugh yesterday because MJ and I were talking about a situation that was serious. And I likened it to me being forced to go to a Primus concert.

And I do feel that it's kind of the same when you have to go be around. And it's not, it's really, I'm going to say it. It's not because of the Primus. The Primus fans are, I can't be alone in being annoyed by Primus fans. I know I'm not. I think that this is like a known thing. You really did go to a primus show yesterday? You were forced.

Yeah, I did go to a primus show. How was it? I did. I enjoy Primus music. Like I like the music of Primus. It is just I have maybe just like past weird trauma with people that like, especially, I think it all comes down to the fact that they say Primus sucks. Everybody chants Primus sucks about Primus. It's like the one thing everybody knows about Primus.

Okay. And I feel like it's always one of those things when you meet a big Primus fans. Like, because they say Primus sucks. But like they're actually like in on the joke. Like it's the- Just like Goops it on the joke. We love to be in on the joke. It's the explanation of their genius.

It's the explanation of just like, you didn't even like under the wall. It's like, and don't get me wrong. I love smoking a bunch Wade. But it is like it's almost, it's just in a. different capacity. Oh, I hope we got emails about this. Primus fans sound off. I'm looking at a treasure trove of Primus sucks memes right now on the internet. It is a whole, it's a whole thing. So now I want to know, Primus fans. Are you mad at Jackie for being annoyed by the fans? And I understand. It's like having a stance on rush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is up there. It's a tool. I, yeah, yeah.

And I think specifically one, and maybe it's just because of my age group and because a lot of Primus fans were like the right age to menace on underage millennials. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That I realized it was like, as I was at the Primus concert, I was like, why do I have all these feelings? And then I was like, oh, that's why. Scary Primus fans from my youth. Yeah. That's where it is. It has nothing to do.

And then I went to the concert and it's like everybody's old now, MJ. It's like it was chill. It really wasn't like everybody was smoking weed at the fucking Greek. You know, everybody not supposed to. Everybody's just having a time. A week or two ago now I was listening to my favorite local New York City news source, Hellgate, NYC. They are a worker-owned collective, journalism collective in New York City.

And they have a podcast that is free for anybody to listen. to if you want to listen to New York City news, but they had a whole thing about, usually it's very much like about the mayoral election and, you know, like New York City politics, but they had a whole thing that was just about the fish show that had just happened in New York City and the demographics of the fish show. And they were like, what would you say the average age was at the fish show? And the answer was like, I think 55. And the average, like, where were the fish fans coming from? I think the estimate was about, I don't remember the ratios now, but there was like a good amount of bridge and tunnel fish people and then a good amount of, you know,

Brooklyn and Queens bred fish people. But there's something about, I've really been thinking about like the average age at a fish concert is now mid-50s. That really, it's like, I look at my children and I'm like, how are you not babies anymore? And then I get all like, you know, moved by the passage of time. But nothing doing that to me more than realizing fish fans are like, can get the discounted senior meal at Perkins now. Fuck yeah, dude.

Man, I can't wait for those ages. At least you get coupons. When my dad turned 55, I said you can get the discounted meal at Perkins now. And he was like, kill me. And I was like, why are you upset about that? This is what are you talking about? This is what you've been waiting for. I'll do anything for coupons.

You know how many apps I sign up for just because I know I'll get a coupon. I'll do anything for a coupon. Yeah. And at Perkins, you don't have to, you know, you have to be 65 in this country to retire, but you have to only be 55 to get a discounted senior meal at Perkins. That is odd. Is it been thrown out there?

Too young. It's too young for a senior meal. This was a little while back, decade or two ago. I don't know if austerity has hit Perkins. I don't even know if Perkins is still around, but at the time. What do they call it a Perkins adult meal? Perkins probably is certainly. I searched it.

That's nothing. Perkins Senior meal is probably Perkins Senior menu. Oh, yeah. Don't use my precise. location. I don't need a Perkins right now. Don't even bring it up. Do you know that Instagram now they just instituted map so that now anywhere you are, your phone is, it shows up on the map. Oh yes. You have to disable it. Yes. You got to go disable it. I have seen people

talking about this. Yes, the 55 plus is still alive and well at Perkins. Wow, 55. Breakfast all day. 55 plus menu. And then I'm looking at a current menu. This prices have gone up. high school. I bet. Yeah, I bet they have. 10 bucks for breakfast if you're 55 it up.

That's not bad. In this economy? MJ, we used to get hammered. We used to drink through the episodes. Now you're looking at, I have three coffee cups in front of me. This is my life now. And I'm looking at the 35 plus menu.

And saying, that's not that far off. Well, who said we've got nothing to look forward to? And all the names of the dishes start with 55 plus, Jackie. 55 plus grilled pork chops. Good. Good. 5 plus. Yes.

55 plus pot roast. Bro, I don't know if you've ever gotten yourself into one of those silver shoes exercise classes before. But man, they get a groove on there. No, I want to start doing water aerobics with all the old ladies. I need to just find a water aerobics class. And yeah, I know we used to be young guys. And if you're not riveted by this aging. you know, on air, then I don't know what to tell you.

Or if you're scared by how riveted you are, because you know, as you listen to me right now, what are you searching for on your phone if you're searching for something? Last night, I stayed up way too late doing research on hair dryers. And I researched hair dryers for so long, just like, I mean, if I'm going to get a hair dryer, I should know what kind of hair dry I'm going to get. And then I'm talking to Jeff about the hairdry. And then nobody gives a fuck about what kind of hair dryer. have. This is why... Until you go to Reddit. And then you find your Reddit community and then you go and

you talk about your hair dryer's there. But where you do what I do, which is just like find one woman on Instagram who you trust and you buy everything she ever tells you. So I find, I go to my one woman and I'd be like, what does this, what hairdriers is this woman buy? You know, what does she use? And then, you know, what is she? And especially it's like, you know, in the snack fluencing game, it's hard out here, you know, I look up to these snack influencers out there to tell me, to guide me, you know, especially when they're guiding me to the Wednesday's Wendy meal, which I don't know if you, this has been all over my social media. Oh, the unhappy meal, yes.

It's the unhappy meal because the new Wednesday season two has dropped and there is a collab out that they are doing an unhappy meal and people were waiting in line. Yes. You liked it. I liked it. I really enjoyed it. I think that there's like quite a few switch them up. But I'm so excited because my friend Heather Matarazzo is in the second season.

And I'm very, very happy for her. And so I'm definitely going to be checking out the second season. Everybody check it out. But I definitely would never, in a hundred million years. And maybe this is what is going to forever hold me back from being the true snack fluencer that I could achieve. Is that I am not willing to wait hours in line to eat something. Did you ever wait in line for the Magnolia Cupcakes in New York or, like, The croissant, what was it?

No, the cronet. No. No. No. I'm against it. I'm against the idea of it always, have been always willy. Sneakers I get. When people wait online for sneakers or like a switch, I get it.

Yes. But yeah, for some reason I am also annoyed by the whole phenomenon. I love a public spectacle and I love a collective experience. And so I tried to not be a big crank about the cronuts and the Magnolia Bakery things. Because like honestly, I kind of even weird. I'm weirdly miss getting in physical line to wait for a concert ticket. Like, have you ever gotten somewhere and waited all day for a concert? That's fine.

I like that. That kind of stuff is fun, but there's something. I mean, I'm a hungry-ass bitch. That's really what it is. And if I have to wait that long, you better have me pre-fed before I went. Like, even to a point that I don't even like going to restaurants that don't take reservations because I don't like to wait an un-ending amount of time until that I'm going to be able to eat something.

Yeah. And I don't, I'm having a hard time really even figuring out what's so exciting about this meal. I know that it's like fun, like rebrand of Wendy's to Wednesdays. But like, I think that's it. I think that's where it begins and ends. The sauces. The one, they interview a woman who waited online for four.

four hours and she said, the only problem was that the four mystery sauces were truly mysterious. The names, you can't hide, this will sting, grave mistake, and nowhere to woe. There was no way of knowing the flavors or ingredients of each. Yeah, no, I'm asleep. I'm not doing this. I just couldn't bring myself to care in that respect. I'm sure it's fine. Although, the first comment on this article is about, remember when Popeye's introduced their

chicken sandwich and everybody went crazy to wait in line for the Popeye's chicken sandwich. And I did like that. I thought that was fun. So maybe I'm just being selected. When the chicken breasts were the, were the, um, sandwich, like were the actual bread, right? No. Is that what that one was? That was, no.

I've just died there was just like, that one. I remember that too. That was KFC. That was KFC. That was KFC. That was KFC. That was KFC. Yeah.

No, no. Popeye's just made a really good chicken sandwich and everyone was like, this is the best fucking chicken sandwich I've ever had my life. And then every Popeye's was like swarmed and turned into like a Black Friday like overnight. And it was just because Popeye just made a really good chicken sandwich. And I'm up for that. The KFC Double Down, by the way. It was called the KFC Double Down.

Remember when we, I feel like we talked about the Double Down a lot. We did. That was pretty snack fluency days by many years. You know, we didn't even know back then that we were at the foreground. Like the foundation we were building for our future, we didn't realize. Well, and they're ahead of their game. Now everyone I follow on Instagram, every last one, they only eat protein now. Prioritizing protein.

The only food they eat is protein. They won't eat sandwiches unless it's made a meat. Just wait. Give them two years. And then it's like, every time a protein touches your mouth, it will kill. It's like, all right, cool. You know what, man, I'm just down for the ride. You know, I'm just trying to strap in, strap on, and strap out.

Well, if we're talking collabs, Jackie, there's another one we haven't talked about yet. It's a good one. The one that you sent me about the man who can't stop doing collabs for some reason. It seems like he really just lives to do complicated, intense collaborations. And we're talking, of course, about Walton Goggins. Oh, baby. And it is a bit of a sexy collab. I have tried.

He also did the Jimmy John's one, right? The Jimmy John's Smy. He did also do the Jimmy Johns one. Why did he only do commercials that are sexy? Well, I mean, technically, MJ, the Jimmy Johns one was an audio erotica and this is a video erotica. But like, isn't this weird behavior? Like, listen, I'm as turned on by Walton Gagons as the next guy. But isn't it strange that Walton Gagons has now done erotica for Jimmy Johns and erotica for Doritos?

Or is this just, are we loving it? I actually think it's fun. I mean, you know, because I'm the horniest person to exist. But also, because I feel like you know Pedro Pascal is being offered stuff like this, and you know he's turning it down. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I've got a distinguished career. I'll do it. I'll do Doritos porn, sure.

I think that's what makes me like it more. Like, I feel like the fact that he sees it because you know it has to come in front of him and for him to go, yeah, I'll do that. And that makes me very happy and excited. Like, it makes me, I know that we can only know so much how much a specific celebrity has control over their choices. But I feel like a Walton Goggins at the point that he's at can really, like, if he didn't want to do it, he wouldn't do it. You know? Oh, yeah. No, he's choosing this.

And he's, again, he's choosing based on a theme, which is sex. That he is. And also, you know what? Good for fucking him because he is definitely a divisive fuck persona, which I don't understand because I only see the pure sex of him. Well, we heard from a lot of people

who didn't understand our thirst for him because he was such an awful character in White Lois. And he often plays a very objectionable character. And he's very good at playing objectional characters, which it just draws me to him even more. And it makes me, like, I feel like we simultaneously lament, or maybe this is just personally, lament the interestingly faced celebrities that I feel like have kind of fallen off as we've gotten, you know, tighter and sucking out the cheek fat and everything.

And I was actually just reading an article talking about Nicholas Holt, who is arguably so fucking hot. and is a huge fucking star. He's the one that just played Lex Luthor and Superman. He's in skins. He's like about a boy. Like he's been in Hollywood for a long time. And he's told that he's inbred looking all the time. And he's like, you know, I just, yeah, I know I'm not hot.

He was just kind of talking about how like, I mean, everybody says, I look, inbred. So don't worry. I don't have a big head about it. And that's why it's like, I want to celebrate the Walt and Gagins of this world. Yeah, let's fucking thirst for him. Let's watch. Let's listen to just a segment of this is an ad for golden saracha Doritos, which are actually pretty good and pretty fun and pretty tangy in a way I didn't expect. Okay, you've had him.

I have had him. You must be that plumber. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I don't need someone to fix your pipes. I've been waiting for you all day. I mean, you just want to look up this.

It is called a spicy but not too spicy plumber, which is, of course, in reference to the golden syracia. How big are we talking? Very big. I don't want this to do it for me, MJ. I really don't want it to do it for me. I felt the same thing about the Jimmy Jobs. I was like, you know, it's just, it's an ad.

It's all an ad. Everything's an ad. The content is an ad. The ad is an ad. The man is an ad. It's all an ad. It's everything's an ad. What my children watch is an ad.

It's an ad for the things that the ads have ads. And I also, I just cannot stay mad at Walton Gagins. And I guess I got to say, get that cheddar. There's no reason for him to be doing this. Surely he makes enough money based. on his very prestigious projects, and yet he keeps saying yes to the smut. And I guess I have to hand it to him. I don't want to, but I will.

I will definitely. It's funny. This ad is funny. It is. And, you know, I will say that everyone said that on White Lotus, they ended up getting paid a lot less than they thought they were going to get paid, that like it was more of like a for the prestige of it. But that still doesn't mean that he necessarily, with the amount of projects he does

need the money. But again, makes me just like him even further. Yeah. I'm with it. I love the man. God damn it. And it does, but you're right,

it is an ad for an ad. And then this ad is this ad. And especially seeing the trailer for the new Running Man, they're doing a reboot of Running Man. And even watching that trailer, it's like, I already reference running man being our current

present reality all the time. I didn't even realize they were making another one and old shark face himself. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, you know, I'm going to, shark face himself. It looks great and I'm going to go see it. And because Coleman Domingo is there.

I've decided I'll watch Coleman Domingo in anything. Yes, please. Anything. I know you still haven't gotten around to four seasons because it was not the time in your life. It was not the season of your life to watch a kind of sad comedy about aging. No, wistful. No.

And loss. But at some point, you'll watch it and you will fall further in love with Coleman Domingo. God, I love him. I just, and the trailer looks very good. But in what it really is like, it may as well be, you know, it's fine. Everything's going to be fine. Guys, we're just, you know, if you just get the golden syracodrigo's and everything's going to be fine.

And when you start laughing like that, that's when you know everything's going to be, okay. Yeah. We're fine. We're moving through it. Yeah. In fact, you know, who might not be fine is old Matt Wraith. Well, let's talk about Matt Rife. As long as we're burning bridges over here, this fucking guy, right?

I know that Holden hates him. This is what I wish Holden was here. Holden hates. Hates Matt Rife. And I had to go into a terrible rabbit hole about him because I knew that I hated him just, I just could, sometimes you could just tell, you know? And I've seen his clips on TikTok. And I'm just like, I don't, I don't trust you. and I can tell that you're an anti-woke guy.

And that's it. He's an anti-woke guy. And it's not just whatever, oh, you're being too sensitive. It's he's very purposefully. He's doing jokes about punching women and keeping them in the kitchen and he's making horrible, horrible jokes on kids. Like,

oh, you're so edgy. Oh, good job. And now he's, and also, yeah, he looks insane. And now he owns the.

Annabelle doll. And I... Not only does he own the Annabelle doll. He bought the whole estate. He bought... A whole estate. He bought the... He bought the estate of the paranormal couple that...

The warrants that were like the leads of the... The inspiration for the conjuring movies. Ed and Lorraine Warren. And so he bought the whole house that is filled with a lot of... the possible entity-filled items that they have come across, that they have like have a whole guarded space where they keep all of these things. Now, Matt Rife has purchased this.

And of course, the internet has really, I think it's a lot of people that hate him that are excited for bad things to happen to him. Yeah, that's, yeah, if he ends up getting haunted, that would be totally fine. This is, forgive me, this is a very clumsy analogy. but I feel like Matt Rife

like seizing the estate of Ed and Lorraine Warren and the whole conjuring thing it really, it like reminds me of how the like Doge guys who were going in and like destroying the federal government were all like

21 and they had names like big balls you know like yeah yeah yeah yeah like Matt Rife taking the estate of the Warren's just feels like big balls like shunner down social security. You know, you're just like, I just don't think that you, young man, should have this. Like, and I'm not even saying that the conjuring is as important as like federal funding, but like it just feels like you, it just feels like you're just a young man with

a lot of money and no judgment. And now you've taken something that's kind of an institution and you're just going to fuck it up. You know, that's what you're going to do. You're just doing it because you're obsessed with attention. And I just, he's so objectionable. He is really, an objectionable human being. And I feel like I don't want him to have the Annabelle doll, even if it does haunt him. I feel like he doesn't deserve it. You're right.

I feel like it's similarly to the way that I felt sad after watching Superman, sad that Superman doesn't actually exist and that he can't actually save us. I, man, please, I'm putting it out there in the universe. If anybody, like if you, like if haunting exists and entities, I know you're listening to this podcast right now. If you are able to cross over to the other, like if you are able to fuck with him, man, this would be a really great time to do it. If you could just could for like us, just get, you know, and I hate it because I feel like

that's giving him what he wants, you know, that would be giving him the content that he craves. This is the problem with fucking edge lords is that they're like, oh, you upset. And then it, yeah, it's like they love it. I know. And they love it. This is the hell we live in. I'm looking for a gin. Like I'm going for like wishmaster.

What do you wish? I want it done with a, you know, it's like, I want it done with a wink. It's like, oh, you want it, oh, do you wish? And then they're never the way you want the wishes. Yeah, yeah, I want it to, yeah, I try not to like wish, you know, hauntings onto people. But he is. I find wishing hauntings onto people. You know what?

I think that is where my line is. I think I'm okay. I think I acknowledge and accept that some people I'd, and I want to get haunted. I would like to be haunted, like for a bit. I don't want to have to go through an exorcism per se. It's too nice of a fate for him, though, you know? I know. I want something worse than a haunt.

Yeah, that's why, like, I want, like, you know, it's like a, like, is there a dirty soda version of a haunting? You know what I mean? Like, is there a way to put some crime on it? And, like, in a place where you didn't expect any cream to be. Everyone's screaming at us, by the way, about how we can make our own. We can make our own. And also, Italian sodas is. But Italian sodas, guys, they're nice and classy.

The classy. And a Dr. Pepper with a bunch of half and half in it. I'm going to say, not classy. We got classy. We got Doid. I do want. I really have been, honestly, I'm going to say the opposite. I thank you for your recipes because I am going to try.

I need to try. I have to make them. I'm going to make them. I should remember make them. Yes. And also, everyone's very mad at me for not liking cream sodas. Guys, I'm not saying I'm right. I know why I'm a sense.

a little baby. I know that it's normal to like cream soda. It's a puky belly. We got puky belly syndromes. I'm not proud. A lot of the things I just close on this podcast, I'm not proud. I'm not saying I'm right. You don't have to look up to me for it. You can look down on me. How dare you not like cream soda? I've struggled with it my entire life. Look down upon your lactose needs. Yeah, and I will. This is earlier today, my kids were trying to get me to think of the name of the music. They were making a reference I didn't understand. And Zelda goes, it's from Greece. And I was like, it's from Greece.

And then she was like, it's from that musical you like, look down at the poor people. And I was like, ah, Laymiss. Yes. And yeah, you do love to look down on the poor people. I'm glad that that's what your kids are getting from. Laymiz is that you like to look down on poor people. And that my love of musical, it could be all, like mixing up Greece with Laymas is to be such a great mix up. It really is.

be two more different musicals. No, it really, I, I, you know what, but maybe that's fun for them that, like, Lord knows what's going on inside of the kids' brains that, like, it's like, what do they think all musicals are? Like, do they think all musicals live within the same realm of each other? Yeah, yeah, we go together and look down, all, anything could happen in a musical. I mean, it is, there is some classism, all right? I think it runs through both of them. Also, I did mean to say earlier, before I close out this article, Kim Jong-un, by the way, apparently banned hot dogs because they're a symbol of Westernism to him. And so that he has decreed that serving or selling of hot dogs is now classified as an act of treason. Wow. And, you know, we want to say,

like, apparently that they face arrest or labor service if they are caught. And, you know, we read these articles. It's more like, wow, I hope that doesn't happen in the Southwest region the United States. Good, though. Maybe, good, who knows? So hold on to your hot dogs tight, y'all. They might be going now. Although, let's be real.

I think maybe not at the top of the list of things to go are, you know, anything that's going to raise your, your saturated fats or your cholesterol or your blood pressure. Oh, yeah. I mean, if, if and when America finds itself under a dictatorship, it's going to be the opposite. Hot dogs are going to be mandatory. you know, it's vegetarianism that's going to have you.

Then it'll be my time to shine. Then, you know, and then it'll be like, why is Jackie smiling on the Bezos yacht? And it's like, well. Exactly. That's when you get invited to the yacht. Now, Jackie, how about, how about, how about the ketchup smoothie? Oh, my God. How do you feel about it?

And everyone's like, oh my God, is tomato a vegetable? Oh my God. Is this a smoothie? Are we drinking a fucking crushed ice version of my chup? And this is a, this is a Chicago local delicacy. I'll love to you, Chicago. We had an absolutely fantastic time at Talia Hall when you were there. But also I'm surprised Chicago, all right?

I know. As someone that is so against it on your dog, which you know I lie with. I know. You're going to make it. So maybe is it that like they feel that they've shuttered out the world of chup too hard and it's time to open? themselves up to it with open arms. Tell us locals, Chicagoans, about, so this is a collaboration between us.

We're all collabs today. Heinz and Smoothie King, the smoothie king at the North Haldstead location, is blending up a smoothie with ketchup, assaye sobey, apple juice, strawberries, and raspberries. It's a sweet and fruity smoothie with a bright, tangy ketchup finish. Bull shit. According to Hines' press release. Full fucking shit that that is a ketchup. smoothie. Go, that is, you go on an F because that is just a regular fucking smoothie in the same

way that it's like, you put a what in a smoothie? It's like, yeah, you also mix other weird shit. It's like spinach in an apple. That's so crazy. I, you put, yeah, you put a bunch of shit. It's just, you're not even tasting at that point. It's not like, like, it tastes like ketchup. Right. It's not like a, you're not like blending it with hot dogs and stuff. Like that would be a good put territory. please talk about my other love, PUD as gross M.J. Right, right.

It's not a PUD. It is a smoothie. It's a fruit smoothie with a little bit of ketchup in it. So I would like to know Chicagoans, how do you feel? What do you think? And do we love smoothie king? I don't know. Maybe sound off.

I don't know. I'm scared. I'm, you know, I love Chicago so much. But what I love so much about Chicago is, you know, don't come at Chicago. I'm not coming at Chicago. Oh, yeah, that's the thing. I'm only coming at Chup.

I need you all to know. I'm only coming at Chub. I would never say anything bad about the city of Chicago. It's fantastic. That I thought Chicago, I thought you stood firm alongside me. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. We're really living in the world to collabs, aren't we?

Everything is an ad and everything is a collab. And yet here I live, menos more, more menos every day. No one's asking me to live moss. I just, I'd do anything to climb up that ladder. It is just, yeah, it's really, they don't, you know, apparently it's, apparently that when you work with people like Selena Gomez, you know, you don't want to just invite any snack fluencer to your live moss.

But you know who is doing social media absolutely perfectly? Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Hopkins. Yeah, it's Anthony Hopkins. I think that I'd like to get rid of every other. person I follow and only follow Anthony Hopkins. Yeah. No, he, he, so he, this was right after we recorded last week when we were talking about Kim Kardashian and her stupid face sock that takes your face fat away. It skims for your face. And he didn't waste any time, like a quick turn around.

No, man, he jumped on it. A quick turnaround for an old guy on Instagram. He jumped on it and put out a video of himself wearing it and doing the Hannibal Lecter voice. It is so good. It's so funny. And you don't follow Anthony Hopkins. Like, he is, honestly, I miss his relationship that he had with his cat because he really loved his cat. And then he would sit and you would play piano for the cat.

And that was a lot of his TikTok content. But then the cat died. And that was very sad. But you know what? He's still out there making content. He's trucking right along. He doesn't need to be making content. He does it because he likes it.

And also because he has a team of people that he gets to just sit. like the piano and then they make the videos. Some very online person did not waste any time when they saw that. And I love that. I hope that person got a nice little treat after that day. There's just like, there's just videos of him like just, he's looking out at the rain and he's watching the rain and he looks over to the camera and just goes like, I love a rainy Sunday mom.

And that was it. And I was like, man, fucking me too, bro. Hell yeah. That is what we should be thinking about. Sometimes you love a rainy Sunday morning. Thank you, bro. And it was right there. You know, we were talking about how stupid you looked last week.

You would look wearing the stupid Kim Kardashian face skims, but we, neither of us realized it really is the Hannibal Lecter baths. And that's crazy because I'm currently watching the Hannibal television show. So I really should be thinking only. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't. Jackie. Yeah, I'm going back.

We're, we're in the first season right now. Jeff has seen it before and he's been trying to get me to watch Hannibal for a long time because I was like, have you seen it before? No, I've never seen it. This is your first time watching Hannibal. People are wild about him. Yes. People treat Hannibal like the Bible. Yes.

People worship at the, I worship the altar of Mads Mickelson. Are you thirsting for him? Oh, yeah. And it is very, I just keep being like, and then they kiss. And then are they going to kiss? Are they going to get? And like, Jeff was like, okay, Jackie, look to the internet. If you want them kissing, there are many, many.

slash fictions that you can find of people writing about like he's like the internet ships them hard and I was like okay I found my people. I was like this is why people have been wanting me to watch the show for so long and I didn't realize that there was a whole horny internet community that was there to greet me yeah and welcome me into the world of Hannibal so I feel like Hannibal it's not like I don't maybe it's not like Buffy in terms of the fandom obviously the Buffy fandom there's an entire just enterprise of Buffy. fandom, you know, activity. But when we were watching Hannibal years ago, I was like people, you know, it really is like a religion where if you tell someone that you're watching Hannibal, they're like, let's sit down.

Oh, yeah. Let's talk about it. Oh, yeah. Like, let's talk about the good word of Hannibal. Of Hannibal. Yeah. I didn't realize. I didn't know that it had such a fervent community. Yeah. And I'm excited to join their ranks. Oh, I'm excited that you're watching it. I like, Yeah, I also, you know, I like horror, but I, um, it was not, I don't think I really want to

rewatch it. It was a lot for NBC. I mean, we're watching one of the episodes where they like, they like skin the back of these people and then take the skin flaps and put them up to make them these like big angels. Yes, the skin angels. That is my go-to image that comes to my head when I think about animal and I hate it. Jeff was telling me that he's like You know what's crazy about this episode is that NBC

The only problem they had With the like insane violence He's like said it showed too much ass crack So they just put more blood on the ass crack So you couldn't see it as much And I was like wow It is really one of those shows We're like how did this

How was this a network show? Network show Yeah And really just like wow Okay well Okay Yeah and it's not even that long ago It was 2013

Yeah, no, I really, I really, really liked Hannibal. I love Matt's Mickelson. It's funny that you say it's not that long ago because the way Jeff talks about the difference of the internet then versus now and the way people handled their love for it. Like he's like, I feel like now, he's like, if Hannibal happened now, it would be accepted in such a different way. Like he's like, I think the whole, like it would have been done in a different. He's like, it would have been interesting, but it is such a, like, specifically, like a, oh, God, what is the old social media? Not MySpace, but like one of the Tumblr. He's like, it's a very Tumblr-era ship show.

Right. The fandom was such a product of its time in that. They say it's like, I received a picture text. And it's like, yeah, it's like even those little things of like, oh, yeah, it's a product. It's a product of its time. Oh, yeah. Little, not, and not in untoward ways either. It's just more of like that little stuff.

Send us your emails and your thoughts about Hannibal guys. I'm sure we have a bunch of Hannibal heads out there. Don't do any spoilers for Jackie, of course. Please. Yeah. And also, I'm sure there's a bunch of great, like, essays about it. It's like, it's one of those shows where you're like, it's like Buffy, where you're like, surely, you know, papers and upon papers have been written about this show and this

symbolism and all of that. But yeah, it's, it's fun. Send me your best YouTube. You hit me with them all fucking watch. Or as long as they're not spoily. I guess maybe that's something, that's a, a journey for after I've finished the show. Yeah, maybe that's true. Yeah. But that's okay. It's a different journey for a different day. Also, I will throw it out there. MJ, they just dropped the episodes for season three of perfect match. And I did start watching it. And it is maybe the kind of brainless shit you might need. in the dregs of summer vacation?

I haven't been watching anything because on vacation the kids don't go to bed till forever. So I'm, so I apologize that I don't have, I haven't even got nothing to apologize for. But I would love to watch Perfect Match when I'm, when I reach the end of the day. And I'm hiding under a blink. At the end of the day when you watch the perfect, just go home. Okay, that's good. It is slutty. You know, it's just stupid.

That's great. It's a lot of, like, ugh, the sounds that they make are really just sending me. And every, I started watching the first episode. I was like, I don't know. Do I need to watch this season? And then I got to the end of the first episode. I was like, of course I'm going to fucking keep watching this.

Oh, yeah. I immediately fall back in. It's like, again, it's another one of these shows. I don't want to fuck or kiss any of them. Yeah. Well, maybe some of them. But I really, it's not about that. You're off the villa now, right?

The villa's over. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's over. We're gone. Yep. Yeah. Well, no, that's, I do need something to watch that. It's not just this Sarah Michelle Geller training video on Loop because I am watching that.

Mama me. Oh, man. Sarah Michelle is going to get ready for Buffy. Y'all, where we are at in Buffy, if you haven't been watching along with our Buffy over there, Buffy watch alongs of Patreon. now might be the time like if you haven't even started just go binge all of it

you can we're in season five and MGA and I are just like losing our minds it's so good it's season five is so good yeah no I understand why people really lose their minds about Buffy it is

it's one of those things it's same with I mean Hannibal it's one of the right or when I watch Jaws yeah right that's why this movie that's why this is still a best shark movie

wow yeah I just had that conversation. My mom also just rewatch Jaws. And she's like, it is so good. And she's like, but then I'm watching Jaws too. Don't rewatch Jaws too. I was like, yeah, I wasn't planning on it. Thanks for the tip, though. But, you know, I love entering into these worlds and communities. So yes, let us know your feelings on Hannibal. Let us know your excitement on Buffy. If you don't give us any spoilers because we are at, we're in tentative territory right now. me thinks. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God, people are going to be so excited to talk about Hannibal with you. I can't wait. People, it's, I really feel like people have strong feelings about Hannibal. I didn't know I wanted to kiss Mads, Mickelson, this much. I didn't until Hannibal and now, and then he was in Rogue One, and when we were watching Rogue One, I was like, is that you, Hannibal? Don't eat me. But also, kind of, I mean, he's just so classy. You know what it is? It's just like,

there's no way I could ever even like dine with him at his table. I know. You know? I know. That's the, I do want to, I do want to have a nice meal with Mads Mikkelson, but I don't want it to be humans. It makes me think of every like scene in interview with a vampire whenever they're at, like, they're sitting at that beautiful table. I'm like, I couldn't even eat that food because I'd be like, what's this?

I'll know this is. I don't understand. That's not enough. I'm so hungry. Bring me a double down. Yeah. And they never, the vampires never have any double downs. And I'm like, if you can live forever, aren't you going to include double downs in your diet?

I guess this is the end of our episode. I think we did it. I think we, you know, we are, again, every week we just come on and we say, oh, this person's bad. And then we say, but what's good? And we say the ads are good. And that's the state of pop culture right now. The ads are good. The old shows.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And some of the new movies are good, but some of the new movies are bad. Yeah, I mean, Mariah Carey did wear the protect the dolls jacket. So that's a positive. That's a good. That's a nice. And I continue to be happy for Pedro Pascal in his PR journey.

I think that he is perfect. And I have no issues with him whatsoever. Love this. I love him. You know, until the day it all comes crashing down. Someday we're going to cut back here and be like, it turns out he's down. Turns out they're all. Everybody's always.

But not today, everybody. this day we're ending it on a high note. Go out and get yourself a hot dog, all right? I think you need it. I think you deserve it. Well, I mean, because we don't know how long we've got them. We should start eating them like they're about to become illegal. Maybe that's how you get through the rest of your summer.

Think about it. You know, so you don't have to worry about nitrates. Yeah, I'm just thinking about like, don't think, you don't have to think about the long run. Yeah. We're only thinking short term, you know? Well, I've been living that way for a long time. It's time to shift. Eat the hot dog.

Love you guys so much. Thank you for hanging out with us during our second helpings. My name is Jackie Zabrowski, and you can come hang out with me over on Instagram at Jack That Worm. And, you know, we're over on the page 7 Patreon. We've got your Sukki Stackhouse. We've got your Buffy. We have your celebrities. You know you want to hear us lament and talk more about the world of old GP.

Gwana. Oh, Gwyneth. Yes, we are at Patreon. And, of course, you can always email us, page 7 podcast at gmail.com. So many sweet, wonderful emails lately. It's been very fun to read them. We love you guys so much for listening and for writing in and for being part of this community. Yeah, things are hard out there.

And yeah, there's a lot of registered Republicans out there. But we're here for you, babes. And we're going to be back next week. See, and who else we found out as bad between now and then. Oh, I wonder who it's going to be. Let's have something to look forward to. Bye, everybody. Bye.

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