Page 7 - Second Helpings - Ringo Starr Chair Picture

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

Jackie's teeth Tony is a whistlin', parentfluencers are shillin' a 3 figure box that tells your kids a story without a screen (aka a RADIO), Chappell Roan is PREACHING 'bout havin' kids too young, and the newest Baldwin episode is literally just about a rug and not worth missing the opera for, so Jackie gives a 5 second (too long possibly) synopsis. 'The Studio' is great and filled with stars, and worth payin' for Apple TV, it's dropping weekly and there's 3 eps right now. Jackie recommends 'Midcentury Modern', a new sitcom on Hulu starring Nathan Lane that's essentially 'Golden Girls' with gay men. 'The Pitt' demands your full attention and your full tear ducts RIGHT. NOW. but 'Death of a Unicorn' DOES NOT. There's 4 Beatles movies bein' created by Sam Mendez that all intersect for a "bingeable" theatre experience, which leads to a possible sighting of a giant Liverpool lap lizard, a film based on Britney Spear's memoir 'The Woman Inside Me', and JoJo Siwa is pulling a Gene Simmons with a personal assistant VIP package, but at least her comes with a ticket to the show. Mike White of 'White Lotus' has kicked up a mess by going on terminal weirdo and transphobe Andrew Sullivan's podcast, 'Love on the Spectrum' Season 3 dropped and accidentally kept Jackie from sleepin', Cardi B's kid drew on her $60,000 bag BECAUSE CELEBS ARE JUST LIKE US! Rambo nearly ruined an impromtru Jackie's Snackies as his final act before he started checkin' Sundae the Black Lab's Instagram from the sky, Jackie goes over a list of April Fool's Day products, but sadly Snooki's fried pickle ice cream isn't one of them. Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It just puts a smile on my face every single time. It really, man, I just hope that people at home sing it for yourself. It just really fills the mouth in a way you don't expect it to. Yeah, it's a process. You have to sit down in front of YouTube. You have to watch the entirety of the step-by-step theme song. You have to see what that brings up for you. And then you have to listen to us figuring out new songs as we go.

Yes, we know that the old songs from. page seven our beloved and the people don't like change. Yes, we know that you have to listen to us, figure it out as we go, but it'll be better. No, we're changing it and that's fine. I think that, you know. Do me fear I had to ask MJ if it was, we'll make it better second pot around or if it was bottle be better second time around. Yeah, I think second pot around. We're trying for accuracy here. You know it's a song that out the gate. Did you just hear my teeth whistle? My teeth just made a whistle. sound inside of my head. That's good for audio. How did that happen? Wow. Man, the human body is just

really surprising sometimes. Did you know, have you ever whistled with your teeth inside of your head before? Well, um, did you hear it? Or did I just hear it inside of my brain? It's hard for me to get the nuances of what's going on with your mouth across Zoom. I feel like you're not listening intently enough to every orifice of the inside of my mouth, MJ. And I feel like If you're some, I thought you were Tony. I thought you were my Tony. The little man that lives inside of my mouth, okay? Oh, that's Tony.

It's a shining. Yeah. Yeah. I asked Holden yesterday in the studio, he was in the middle of a meeting, and I heard him saying something about inside of his mouth. And I said, oh, you're talking about Tony? And just completely interrupted his meeting. It didn't realize he was in the meeting.

I thought, I don't know. I guess I thought he was talking to himself, MJ. And he wasn't talking about the little man that lives inside of his mouth. mouth, but now I just keep having a run and bit inside of my head about thinking of people with little men inside of their mouths and what do they hearing them say? And we should probably be talking about this. Well, did Holden pick up what you were putting down about Tony from the shining? No. It was almost like he was in a conversation about something completely different. And I was just like, follow my wavelength, dude. If you're in the studio, always be ready.

You always be prepared for an onslaught of a bit of something. some sort that is coming at you. Always be prepared. Well, you know, I have been, my brain has been completely seized by parenthood and there is this little box called a Tony box that now I'm going to think about the shining every time, which is great. It's a little box that doesn't have a screen and it will tell your child's stories because everybody has to spend hundreds of dollars to make sure that your child looks at a screen for 20 minutes less every day than some other kids so you can feel good about yourself as a parent. Tony? Isn't that just a Television.

It sounds like there's a, I thought you were just talking about a little TV that lives in your mouth. I was like, I don't think we need another screen. No, it's a little box with no screens. That's the, that's why you spend all your money on it because there's no screen. And if you give your kid a screen time, you're a bad parent. Wait a second. So you have to buy something to give them no screen? Can't you just give them life?

Can't you just give them reality? That's no screen. Literally every product targeted to parents has the phrase screen free. It'll be a plant. And it'll be like screen free. It'll be a marble track. Screen free. It'll be like, it'll be like wooden blocks.

And it'll be like my child hasn't touched the iPad since I gave them this. Oh my God. It's all those damn, it's the parent fluencers that you follow, MJ. They're all telling you it's like, if you give them a Lego, have you heard of a Lego before? Then they don't want ever a screen. And I don't know if that is the case. Now, I will say there's been a little. a lot of discourse about what it's like

being a parent in the world of pop culture right now and is that coming from Chapel Rowan? Yes. A 27 year old who does not have children was asked you know what? Let's just hear what Chapel Rowan said that really upset a lot of people

all right? She was asked if she ever if she stayed in touch with people from back home. All of my friends who have kids are in hell. I don't know anyone. I actually don't know anyone who's happy and has children at this age. I have like, like a one year old, like three year old, four and under, five and under. I literally have not met anyone who's happy, anyone who has like light in their eyes, anyone who has slept.

Light in their eyes. Anyone who has light in their eyes. And I will say as someone that has had a, you know, a co-host of, you know, a parent of two young, close and age children. I have watched you go through quite a bit of hell. But, you know, a lot of parents, man, the blowback on the internet about Chapel Rowan saying this, about like, how dare she, she doesn't have children? But that's the thing. Yeah, you're right. She was asked as a childless person how she feels about it. But now, MJ, as a parent, how do you feel about this? I think I love her. Honestly, there has been more blowback on her about this than like the times that she has spoken about like foreign policy. And it's people, everyone relax. It's fine. Chaparone can have opinions. You don't have to agree with her opinions. My only, my biggest take on Chaparone is that you, if you are a Trump supporter, you should not use her music and your reels. Because a lot of people from all over the internet love her and they don't seem to know what she stands for. And she's so. popular now that all these conservatives use her music and love her. And I'm like, are you familiar

with a single word she's saying? Do you know what Pink Pony Club is about? They don't. No, they're not thinking about it for a moment. They're just thinking about like what, I don't know, small hole can get their rock song. They, but, okay, here's the thing about this. First of all, yeah, she's in her mid-20s and we don't, and she doesn't have kids. So if you disagree with what she thinks about parenthood, then wow, alert, alert. I can find you 10 million 26 year olds who don't have kids who would say the same thing and because it's a completely normal appropriate thing to think. Especially when you're looking at, also it's like we got to think about the fact that she is 27 years old. She's talking about her friends that have children. Most of my friends that have

children were older when they decided to have children. Not that I'm saying that that is the way that you got to do it. But I imagine that like my Twitter. 20s was really rough. I could only assume that adding on becoming a parent in my 20s would make it even rougher. And I'm not saying that many people are much stronger than I am and can take that down. But I feel like that's also what Chappell is talking about. It's like her peers and her friends at that age that are also going through.

Although I have heard at any age, it is a little difficult. I've heard it's a difficult thing to do. The light goes out of your eyes, no matter how old you are. Yeah, don't worry. Yeah, I've got shark eyes too. You look at me, there ain't nothing going on between these ears. I tell you what, but I got a doofy grin on my face because I've already listened to Lou Vegas' Mabo No. 5 Disney's edition twice today.

And that's because you don't have kids. You have that kind of time. You're right. You know, I think she is. You have that kind of time. Just me alone. Listen to Lou Vegas' version of. Mammo number five, but only the Disney version because I just want to think about having a little

bit of, ooh, goofy by my side, I need them. Yuck, yuck. And it's to get on your knees, you little dog, man. And the difference between me and the people mad online at Chapel are that I don't feel like I'm a superior person to you for the fact that I'm up at 545 making my kids school lunches, and you're up at 545 listening to Lou Vega's Mammo number five. I think that we're both equally good people. Sometimes I'm watching The Baldwin's at that hour, too, which is also in his difficult.

Talk about the light going out of your eyes. Wow. Oh, man. Are you talking about the entire cast of the show The Baldwin's? I didn't mean to immediately divot from what yours, pivot. Divot. You always say divot, so we could go with that, but I think you be pivot. I've changed the definition.

All right, I'm giving it a divot. Divot? Yeah. Chapel's right. It is hell. especially age is one, two, three, and four. Yeah, it's hell. It's just, it's also great.

And you can't explain. It's what I always say about parenthood. The shitty parts are extremely easy to understand and explain. I can make a list, an itemized, quantified list of all the things that suck about being a parent. And I can't do that with all the things that are great about it. I'm like, how, like, do you want to come look at my beautiful children sleeping? No, I'm not going to let you do that, you know? No, that would be very weird.

Do you want to, like, somehow find your way into my house? when they're laughing joyfully with each other? I can't explain that. MJ, I just want it to be a part-time job of mine to just be sitting out. I just want to get an apartment for a crossroom years with binoculars going, oh, I see the joy of parenthood from here.

It is impossible to quantify the good things. And I think that that's why sometimes, when I was before I became a parent, I was like all those parents act like they're in some sort of exclusive club that none of us can understand. You people are annoying. I understand that point of view.

And the reason that I think, yeah, it's just like one of these things. It's a human experience that you, that you, you know, you kind of, like many human experiences, you understand it more after you've gone through it. And it is hell. And it is also incredibly meaningful and wonderful. And those things can both be true, you know? And I chapel, it is just people love to get mad at chapel. And I'm like, you guys, she's just a messy, sloppy, not always perfectly spoken, 27-year-old.

let her speak and ramble. We love a ramble here at page seven. We do love a ramble. And especially from someone that has really no perspective on what they're talking about. I want to soak it in. Go off, Queen. I kind of love that she's not as polished as like some of the other people that were polished in the system from a young age. That she is a little bit more like, well, she's certainly talking off the cuff.

And, you know, we're all just going to kind of sit back and watch it. happen. And I mean, I ain't going anywhere. I'll keep listening. And I'll keep going, oh, Chapel. There are just certain things that you look at her. And I'm just like, I feel like an older sister where I'm just like, okay. I love, I love all of this. And I hope that I hope the world for you baby. But you know, this is really one of those ones where the amount of discourse, and I am on parent Instagram. And so I'm more steeped it. I think I got probably got more in my algorithm than you did, but like the amount of people being upset about this, I was like, guys, this is completely standard. I was chapel when I was 27. I thought the exact same shit. My friend, my best friend in New York

had her first kid at 27, and she used to always joke that she felt like a teen mom in New York. Because in New York, you may as well be. Yeah. And she also was the one yesterday. She was like, you know what? She's right. It is hell. But it is a hell that I chose for myself. And my same friend, she was like, all life is hell. So you just get to choose. Do you want the hell where it's, Life is hell. Jesus Christ. Every day is suffering and you're always going to frown. May as well shoot something out of your body while you're at it.

Do you want this flavor of hell where you got little, you know, people pissing and shitting and screaming at you. But then sometimes making you the happiest you've ever been in your life. Or do you want a different type of hell where you're... The debilitating emptiness where you choose... Yeah, whatever it might be. Yeah, exactly. And all life is hell and joy at the same time, you know. And that is all the spectrum of what you receive when you're watching the Baldwin.

We watched it. And so everyone's going to hear what happened in this episode, okay? This is the first week that I got angry that we're watching the show. Okay, great. I'm glad that you have something to say. Because my problem is I'm out of things to say about the Baldwin's. She's a horrible person. He is a funny guy.

Those kids seem nice. And I'm out. And you know what? Who else is out of ideas? The showrunners. Because now that that poor manslaughter trial is over, now that that poor family has been milked dry for everything that all the dramatic tension that they had to offer. Rusted shut.

Just by the victims of this horrible workplace tragedy, there is zero stakes. There is zero tension. There is zero storyline. There is nothing going on in the Baldwin household. Couldn't give a fuck. Couldn't give a fuck about what is going on. The entire episode was about a rug that they'd like, I like, Ewan's who get the rug.

But he don't know what we'd the wrong. but I want to get a different kind of rogue. And it's just, okay, that's it. You've watched it now. I just saved you guys 45 minutes of watching this show. Please do not continue to watch it. I will keep watching it. But that was it.

That's all that happened. There was like, it was just, I was furious that this show got a second season. I was screaming about this earlier towards MJ. And then there are shows out there like Scavenger's Rain, which is such an amazing, genius, beautiful show. But you know what? That show costs a lot of money to make. It makes, it takes a lot to make art. And actually, this is why I'm going to take the time that I was going to talk about the Baldwin's and I'm going to shift it into talking about the studio instead. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about the studio. I watched it. Dude, it's so good. And I don't know if Seth Rogan just waited for this show to call in every single favor he's ever.

made in his life. The cast is astonishing. Cast is insane. What is it called stunt casting? And I don't feel like some of it is stunt casting. Some of it like a Charlize Theron walk through where her only line is, get the fuck out of my house. That's fun stunt casting. But the fact that like Martin Scorsesey is in it, Ron Howard is in it, the amount of time.

And also like, oh my God. Oh my. And like, it's so well done, so well written, so exactly, like, it's beautiful. And in fact, the second episode is like a whole episode making fun of trying to do a one shot while the entire episode was a one shot. And it is so funny. And reading into Seth Rogen, because Seth Rogen also, I knew he's a director, but I believe. I believe he's also a writer on it as well, was talking about what they had to go through to even get that episode. Y'all, it's on Apple TV. Here's a thing. If you've been waiting, you're like,

okay, I'm just waiting for severance to finish to get Apple TV again. Just get it again or wait until the studio. There's more because it's dropping every week. There's three episodes out right now. I immediately slurped up the third one the second it came out, and I will be slurping it up every week.

It's about a studio head in L.A. like a kind of fail sun studio head. And it's very, very, very industry-e. And to be honest, I actually at first kind of had my hackles up just a bit because even though my favorite movie is singing in the raid, which is also an industry movie, sometimes I get like a little bit, I kind of like, I worry about inside the industry-e like shows that are about the industry. Sometimes I'm like, okay, all right, can we?

I'm just so much enjoying like the pit right now and it's reminding me how nice it is to like immerse yourself just in a world that is not a world that you know and maybe it's right you know and so at first I was like do I really want to watch like a show about LA and about making movies and so I will admit that I was not convinced that I would love it but it is like it is because it's like about making movies it is very like it's it's not you think it's almost too inside baseball well it's It's not, though. I really enjoyed it, but I was worried it would be too inside baseball. But I feel like what in fact, it's like, it's like an ode to movies. Like, and it's very like slapstick and it kind of, yeah, it does all of these interesting things. It's making all these interesting cinematic references, both in the dialogue and in the form, like the one shot. So fun. And so if you love movies the way Seth Rogen loves movies, this is also a show for you because there's so many references to so many. Like, it's just, and oh my God, oh, Catherine Hahn. Catherine Hahn.

I would fucking, oh my God, I'd salt burn Catherine Hahn. I will do anything for Catherine Hahn. And her in this show, oh my God, I just, and then it's so funny because she plays this like PR person. So she's saying like a bunch of like young people lingo. But then I saw an interview with her and she was asked if she has Riz. And she went, oh, honey, I'm a mama. What is that?

What do you mean? What does that mean? And I want to slurper up like, ooh, sexy spaghetti. It's also like very slapstick. Like there's a bit where Ron Howard throws his baseball hat at Seth Rogen. And Seth Rogen like flies backwards as if he's been hit by a brick. And it's just, it's so over the top. And it's the whole. And yeah, that second episode that's the one shot, especially after having just watched adolescence, which is all, you know, one shots. But it is the dramatic tend to. The dramatic tendency. and the stakes. Talk about it's like the opposite of the Baldwin. It's just, it's like you're, it's this really fun thrill to get through each episode. And yeah, I've really, really been enjoying it. And like I said, I was a little bit hesitant just because I think there is like a bit of a glut of shows about making shows. Yes. You know, yeah, you're right. But this one does it very well. In every conflict, there's at least one bitch. A huge bitch, a silly bitch. A little baby bitch, a raggedy bitch.

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I always kind of get them confused. I did start watching Mid-Century Modern, which is the sitcom on Hulu, which is starring Nathan Lane, and it is essentially Nathan Lane, gay men's golden girls. Yes, you told me about this, but I have not,

I have not watched it yet. You like it? It is definitely a, you know, run-of-the-mill sitcom, but it has got better writing. It is genuinely making me lull. I'm having a lot of lulls from it. And that's lull for all y'all. Not like I'm not having a lull. But I've been really looking for things that I can just kind of shut off my brain. Right. And mid-century modern is that. Okay. It really is. It's low stakes. It's the opposite of the pit. It's the opposite of what you were talking about when it comes to that, you know, the studio and all of that. It is just, you want to just have like a little bit of a smile and at some like lightly raunchy comedy. Watch mid-century modern. Yeah. See, that's great. And it's Nathan Lane, which I mean, I would just do anything for Nathan Lane. Absolutely. No, that sounds great. I'm loving Nathan Lane's like, like this part. this phase of his career. Yes. You know, from the Menendez brothers thing to only murders to this. And yeah, man, the pit, I know every, some people are saying that this last batch of episodes from the pit, that it has kind of jumped the shark because it got somehow even more dramatic than the kind of normal workplace drama of the regular ER. But I'm fine with it. I, yeah. The pit is the only show right now that will stop me in my tracks and I will just like,

it is. Yes. And maybe that's what I like about it so much. Like, So much of watching TV now is like you are doing something else. You're doing a laundry or you're looking at your phone or like Holden talks about this all the time. Second screen shows. Right. And you know that Netflix execs are actually making decisions based on like can you watch this and not pay attention to it. And can you or can you listen to the dialogue and not watch it because you're looking at your phone or whatever, which is like such a nightmare. Like real housewives.

And then the pit you're just like, no, you must give me your full attention and your full heart. And you better get ready to cry right now. Oh yeah. And I really like that. God. Oh, Dr. Robbie, just destroy me. He can do anything to me. Destroy yourself and then destroy me.

Oh, my God. He's got to work through the pain, MJ. He's going to work through the pain. And I felt like I was kind of working through the pain while at the movies the other day. And you know, I love me going to the movies. I especially love it because you put your phone away. And you can't be staring at your phone while at the movies. But we saw a movie over the weekend that I kind of wished,

I had been looking at my phone through and I even said that to Jeff right afterwards I was like man this if we had watched us at home I would have been on my phone the entire time and that was death of a unicorn really and it made me so sad because I was so excited for it did I say death for death of a unicorn

and it's got a great cast I will say the people that killed it still killed it like Will Poulter still killed it Everybody was given it, like Anthony Carrigan. Paul Rudd. But Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortego were just the same 2D characters that they are in like a lot of different things. And I, my biggest quang with it is that if you are creating the world where unicorns actually exist, wouldn't you give them, like, dream big? What powers do these unicorns have?

How do these unicorns kill? You want to make this like, Jeff said, and he was so right. is that when we saw the monkey, everything the monkey gave is what death of a unicorn wanted to be giving. And it didn't quite do it. Like it was funny, but not like all the way leaning over into over the top. There was good amount of violence, but they were just kind of getting gourd with horns. And I want more.

And maybe that's because I'm allowed to dream big here at this network. You know, if I want to go with my brother into outer. space and eat pudding, we can make that happen. And I don't know that if just like, you know, I think it's while watching the studio and things like that, where it's like, guys, we have, but like I like that at least Death of Unicorn, was it trying something new? It's a comedy. Trying to do something.

Similar, like in the same, um, it's hard to say anything's in the same style as the monkey, but, but similar. It's meant to be that, that type of we're laughing and also we're terrified. It's dark comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. with like fun splatter violence.

And I just, I guess I just wanted it to be so much more. Yeah. But it will be a great, like, it is a fun romp for sure. It's just not, I guess I was like thought that I was going to watch and be like, everyone, stop what you're doing and get to death of a, you know, like I was that level. But this is the problem, guys, you know, I have hope. And that is, I need to dead in my eyes a little bit further. I need to look for the shark eyes.

And I think that I will be getting some shark eyes when we someday go see the Beatles movie that is being created by Sam Mendez. Yes. Four movies. Four movies. Man, four intersecting feature films about the young British rock band. Where's the line? He's saying it's the first bingeable theatrical experience. I don't know if I like that pitch.

Oh, bingeable theatrical experience. It sounds like something that you're going. I hope there are intermissions because I hope this is something we can like come back and like tag back in. All right. So let's talk about it. So we've got, man, what a what a story. All right. I mean, here's the thing.

If they're all kissing, sign me the fuck up. But we know they're not all kissing. I mean, yeah, I don't know how much they kissed in real life. I guess we're about to find out. So Paul Muskell. Paul McCartney. That's good. I can remember that.

Paul, Paul. Because I was like, oh, no, I can't talk about it. I need to bring up the cast list. Harris Dickinson, John Lennon, and he's a baby girl, right? He's a baby girl in Triangle of Sadness and Iron Claw. Oh, iron claw, right. Yeah. I believe.

Oh, wow. I'm sorry. This is my problem. This is what happened when I looked at the cat. Yeah. All right, please continue. John Lennon will be played. Oh, no, Harris Dickinson, John Lennon.

That's Harris Dickinson. Barry Keugan. Ringo. Ringo. And Joseph Quinn is George Harrison. Joseph Quinn, you may remember, is Eddie from Strangia things. And here's the thing. So I immediately, I said to Jeff yesterday, was like, did you see the cast of the Beatles

movies that are coming out? He goes, yeah. And he's like, did you ever watch that interview of Ringo Starr on Howard Stern? And I was like, no. Because, of course, I was immediately talking about I want them all to kiss. And Howard Stern point blank asked Ringo Starr if he had ever, if they had all like, he's like, you must have found y'all like yourself like naked altogether in a room, you know, a lot. And he was essentially like, you've seen them naked before.

Really? But we've never touched. Yeah. And he was asked who, of course, because it's Howard Stern, who had the longest, biggest dick. Whoa. And Ringo without a beat goes, me. And MJ, I, then Jeff asked me if I'd ever looked up Ringo Star chair pick.

Yeah, you put this at our shared Google Doc. You said, Ringo Star chair pick. MJ, don't Google this. And I immediately, of course, thought of Army Hammer's dad's chair. Yes, it is not like that. If you just look up Ringo Star chair picture, you can just see what. I'm allowed to Google it now. Yes, it is just the first picture that you will most likely see.

and if you look in the chair picture, if you want to see if a Ringo Star is lying or not. I think everybody should look up Ringo Star chair pick because you just see a big old slager. And you're not seeing. I'm not showing everybody like this is not a dick picture. It's just the outline of a dick picture. And it is placid and it is thick. And I just, I can't believe as one of the horniest people. and I do have, I was young, but I do have a Beatles tattoo on my body.

So I can't believe that I'd never seen this picture because I always, you know, canonically, always wanted to fuck Ringo less. And I know I'm not alone in that. To find me one person on earth who wanted to fuck Ringo first. I used to always make fun of my mom because her favorite was George. And I was like, George. Whoa, I was always a George. Oh my God.

Now my views have changed. And now I'm like, I actually think George is the most handsome. But I thought that it was so dorky to love George. Ouch. Because I was a Paul. Ouch. Oh, of course. That's the thing.

How basic. Oh, of course. Extremely basic. Extremely mid. I mean, Paul McCartney is not mid. I don't know mid. I'm not saying Paul Carty is mid here, but. None of them are mid, that they're the Beatles.

But I don't, please, page seven listeners, if you wanted to fuck Ringo anywhere after, anywhere above number four, please contact us. I need to know. Oh, I've met a couple of ringgoed out there. Yeah? A couple of ringheads. Oh yeah. That, you know, just think about, like, thinking about like the lightheartedness and what he brought to the like, you know, the dark and the genius of what they wanted to be doing. And then, you know, here comes octopus's garden. And you're like, yeah, I guess we could have a fucking romp. I'll take a tab and have a smile. Yeah. You know? But I, I'm I do feel that maybe that chair picture is why Barry Keoghan got hired to play Ringo Star. Well, I know they're not all going to be kissing, but what if they were?

And Jake, can we just say, Amendis, please. If we could just get a Beatles, fuck? Like, give me the Riverdale version of the Beatles. That would be fun. That's what I want. Yeah. When they all met in Liverpool, and give me that one. When they're all playing their like banjo dingoes or whatever.

They're called with their one stringers or whatever the hell they were doing in their loony bins down there. Yeah, well, they were, you know, the whole, they, they, they, they played so many bar shows. And that's, he's, they, they, that book that went, this is a total needless tangent. But there's a Malcolm Gladwell book called 10,000 hours. You remember when all the comedians were obsessed with this? Yes, I do. It's called the outliers. Maybe it's not called 10,000 hours.

But the theory is you have to do something for 10,000 hours before you get good at. And his whole thing about the Beatles was that they just played so much when they were young. that that's why they're good. I think that his Malcolm Gladwell's premise is a bit simplistic. But I do think that your idea of a biopic about the Beatles, but specifically when they were very young doing bar shows, and let's fictionalize it, whether they were fucking or not. Experimenting or not.

I want to see it happening. Yes. Oh, how else are we supposed to know? Ringo. Ringo. What a Hulk you've got there, Ringo. Keep playing the drums, Ringo. but take out the hog.

But the thing about the Barry Keogun casting is it's so perfect because everybody talks about Ringo like he's ugly, but now I'm older and I understand that he's not ugly, he's just weird looking and that sometimes weird looking can be very hot. Oh, yeah. I mean, I got that gog in me. Did I tell you about the shirt that I purchased with a big picture of Walton Gagins on it

and says I got that gogging me? Send me the link. I want it. And I was like, it's such a specific thing. specific shirt. I was like, well, I've never seen anything more made for me before. So now I have a sweatshirt with Jacob on it that says, I got that dog in me. And now I've got a shirt with Walton Goggins. I got that gog in me. And I don't know what this means for my future,

but I think things are looking up. I think I could wear a shirt that says I got that gag in me to a playground, right? Because it's not, is it? Is it about his dick? I don't think it is. But there's something about gogging, and maybe this is just me that just makes me. think of gagging. You know, like, I feel like it is. But I am a horny little nut case. So it just depends on where your brain goes. I imagine most people don't start thinking about gagging and gonging.

Yeah. I'm like in this, I'm trying to update my wardrobe, but I have to exclusively buy shirts that I can wear to a playground or a children's place because that's the only place I ever go. My brother got this great shirt that says, if you don't like trans, if you don't like looking at trans people, gouge your eyes. eyes out. And I just like, I really want this. You can wear that to the playground. I think you can wear that to a playground. I think that everybody can fuck right off if they don't agree with you. I think it's

wonderful. I think it's like, well, maybe you could go gouge your eyes out if you thought about that. Also, the kids at the playground, they don't know what the word gouge means. I think that's actually great. I have my shirt that says be gay, do crimes. And like a nine-year-old came up and was like, what does that mean? And I was like, but I know his mom. So I explained it to him. But he was like, cool. You know, like he's cool. He's a cool nine-year-old. Yeah. He's not like the other.

I would need to be prepared to explain the phrase, gou your eyes out to the literate bunch at the playground. But that's, I'm prepared to do that. They got to learn some time. May as well learn from a reliable source that wants to tell them exactly how to properly gouge some eyes out. Now, there was a lot of talk this week about, so we know that John M. Chu is in talks of doing the,

Woman in Me biopic. And of course, that is the memoir, Britney Spears memoir that MJ and I just finished reading over on celebrities over on the page seven Patreon. I know, dude. And so we know that John H. Choo is going to be, he's like set to be the director of the film. But there has been talked. So this week specifically, everybody that's anybody was like, oh my God, it's going to be Ariana Grande. Oh my God. Everybody knows. that it's going to be Ariana Grande that's going to be cast as her. And John M. Chu just came out and was like, hey guys, I have not even gotten to casting yet. So all of this is speculation. I have not said any of this. This is not coming from me.

Yeah, he said way too early in development. Yes. So, but there are still talks between Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter and Millie Bobby Brown. Now, of course, Millie Bobby Brown recently went very blonde. And so a lot of people also were speculating, oh, did she do that? she's trying to look like Brittany. And she has said, I think that the, as far as I can tell, Millie, Millie Bobby Brown herself has just been like, I would love that. Like, I would love to do that. I actually talked about this with it. I was on the brighter side with Eddie and Amber. And, you know, and at first there was kind of this like her, but we were like, well, you know, as a child star, whether or not you think the physical resemblance or whatever is there, as a

child star going through the experience of growing up in front of the world, Millie would be an interesting choice. I don't know why I'm so mad about Ariana doing it. I just, it feels like, it's like too, like, I want it to be an actor, not a singer, or there's just something about Ariana where it's like Brittany Light, but not Britney. It feels like too close, not or not far enough. You know what I mean? But then in the same breath, I was thinking that Sabrina Carpenter would be perfect because she did go through the system of being a Disney kid, but so did Ariana. Sorry to so did And has like, but what I love about Sabrina Carpenter is that she is divoted from like where she was in Disney into a more sexualized version of herself and has had to deal with the bumpy road of that, that I think that would bring an interesting perspective into playing Britney Spears. Yes, this is another time where I'm just going to embrace my hypocrisy and say it sounds great for Sabrina to do it because I like Sabrina more than I like Ariana.

You just don't like Ariana Grande. And that is okay, MJ. I'm a hypocrite and I live and I have a Holden McNally who lives within me. I know. And I have to be the, oh, okay, whatever. About Ariana. I, we need to keep the spirit of Holden alive in our soul. Sometimes he's right.

And sometimes that means a gronky comes knocking at the door inside of your brain. And those days, you probably shouldn't be talking to other people. If you're having a gronky day, just like, you know, have a, maybe you need a self-care day. Maybe that's what's happening if Gronky comes peeking around the corner. I just want them, however they do this movie, I really, and John M. Chu was like, this is, she deserves, I like that he was centering Brittany and he was like, she deserves a really great. He said, I'm very excited about it.

I think there's huge potential about telling a great story, one that she deserves. And I like that he was not like, this is my opportunity to me. make the Brittany. My opus. Yes. I mean, of course maybe it will be that. But I just think that whoever makes this movie, the thrust of this entire story of the entire memoir, which we just finished, is her being like, everyone else has spoken for me and made decisions for me and talked about me for my entire life. And my entire life, for literally 13 years, I was robbed of any agency whatsoever. And so the idea of this movie being made both thrills me with the excitement for the potential and also terrifies me that it is yet another opportunity to, like, tell her story without her telling her story.

But it seems like he is centering her in a way that is what I want. Yes. Yeah. I think, and I'm going to, I mean, you know I'm going to watch the hell out of it. I'm just excited to see whoever he's going to cast. I'm here for it. And it is interesting because Felicia, who was Britney Spears is like a citizen. slash mother figure slash employee has said that she wants Emma Roberts to play Britney Spears,

which I also think would be an interesting choice. I know. I had to look that up. I was like, oh, Eric Roberts's daughter. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's been all over the place.

Well, also, I mean, you're going to have to have many Britannies, aren't you? That's because my first instinct was like Ariana's too old, which is a weird thing to say. But because I'm thinking, what about, you're going to have to have a young Brittany and an older Brittany, I guess. Or are you? It depends on what, you know, how he's coming at this. Or are we going to go like a complete unknown where it's just like some years of time of Britney Spears?

Are you just going to go through it? It's like, or are you going to try and get all? Because if you're doing a woman in me, you would assume then he's going to go from childhood. Right. But we have no idea. Like there's so, you think about that book was so weirdly short and yet so much was jammed into it because her career has been so substantial.

for a long time. We need four movies, a la the Beatles biopinjable cinematic experience. Give me the bingeable cinematic experience of Britney Spears. I'm begging for it. Okay, but you know what I'm begging for? What are you begging for, MJ? I'm begging for a Jojo Siwa corner because Jojo is in the news this week. Oh, Jojo.

Jojo, she out here, bitches. And am I completely turning to somebody who really gives us a nice little smile at Jojo? I'm not going to say I'm a stand or anything. I still can't sing any of the songs. But all of the stories from this week about Jojo, I had a nice smile. I love her look. I love her talking about how she wore like this like bedazzled leather jacket with the trans flag on it that said trans rights or human rights. She had a mohawk with the trans flag like sprayed into.

to her hair on one side of the rainbow flag on the other side. And she was talking about how she was like, I look like a dude. And it was like this little gender androgyny euphoria. And I was just like, can you go, girl? It was just so funny where she's like, man, is it so crazy? Nowadays, I can look at myself in the mirror and be like,

oh my God, that's a dude right there. And it was just so watching, man, just the way I went really from dislike. You're right, the, like, the radio. jockiness of her voice and that's coming from me. And now I love the essence that she sprinkles onto everywhere she goes because then in turn

she also went to the 2025 Billboard Women and Music event this week and she had this like as opposed to the way she had just looked at the billboard or at the what was it? Was it the Glad Awards that she was dressed? Yeah, it was glad awards.

She was talking about being masked. And then she went to the Billboard women in music event and she dressed like really clean and very subdued like in a way that she doesn't usually dress and everybody was talking about that too. Yeah, I was like business professional but she, but it was fun. She like, it was like a blazer but there was no tap on under the blazer which reminded me very much of that Seinfeld episode where the woman's wearing a bra as a shirt but she's like it's like Jojo's all grown up but then in literally the same week she looked like, I just love this because as somebody who came out later in my life, you kind of, what people

say is that you kind of like regress to like back to puberty, like, where you're like coming, like, you're like, yeah, I'm a, and you have this like, and I didn't really get to do it because it was the pandemic and it was quarantine. And I kind of wish I had had just like a big, messy year of being like out and annoying. Do it now, dude. You can do it whenever. Yeah, yeah, I could, you know, But maybe this is, I mean, hot boy summer. I know you could just, I mean, we're, you know, we are heading back into the world of summer, MJ. It is just, it's like gronky. It's peeking around the corner.

And maybe, you know, we've been talking a lot about Chedinx. I know. And it doesn't have to be a white boy summer, but maybe it could just be a hot boy summer. Well, I remember in 2021, I was thinking about this because we just passed Trans Day of Visibility. And I was like, oh, yeah, this means it's been four years, not only four years since I been MJ, but also four years since I came out on this podcast. Congratulations. Thank you.

And that also was at the same time as White Boy Summer because I remember that the page seven community decided that I was the only person in America who could celebrate White Boy Summer. But that was back then, though, when everything was still inside. So maybe this year, I think you can have a little bit of a research. Yeah. I think, and that's like I just, my like little still baby queer heart like seized. Jojo as the young person she is just going ham with like flags all over her like literally three flags on her at once and I just love I'm like yes go go out with the actual writing of I believe

it said trans rights or human rights like what did she I don't know if she wrote it on to the actual leather jacket yeah it looks like a homemade yeah it looks oh it looks bedazzled oh that she looks badazzled she crafted with her besties this shirt the night before the event and I mean that in a kind way, you know? I just love that you are so pro everything JoJo C was doing this week, and we're so pro in the same conversation we can bring up the dream guest VIP Jojo Siwa concert experience that you can purchase for $900. Now, you're telling me I should do this because I'm a fan-d-off. I think you should do it, FJ. Because we were just talking about Gene Simmons. Okay, but think about this, all right?

It's given Gene Simmons. It is the Gene Simmons. Yes, because it's the Gene Simmons thing. It is essentially like a dream guest VIP. You get one general admission to the show. You can watch the show from designated audience. You can get an exclusive invitation to Jojo's live show set up. You can help Jojo put together the show.

You can have access to Jojo's pre-show sound check, which you can have VIP exclusive merchandise. This doesn't seem like it is as much physical work as the Gene Simmons $12,000 experience is. But still, $900 is a lot, I mean, that's a lot of money for, I'm assuming, especially the age group of people that would want to do this. You got a nine-year-old doing the sound check on the drum sound. I don't think it's a lot of dinks, you know, like that are. just like, I need, like, they can, like, throw the money at having this experience. You know what I mean?

What dinks? I mean, I guess maybe like old lesbian dinks. I just, I'm sorry what I think. In the, like, audience, it's just the audience designated section just being like, him just going, why am I here? Why am I here being like, yes, bitch. Get him, bitch. I am not sure anyone with a double income and no kids, which is what dinks stands for.

I'm not sure there's any of that population that even can I, can I. identify Jojo Siwa, aside from perhaps you and Jeff. But yeah, it is literally the Jean Simmons thing. She's like, you'll be like on the stage helping us with the sound check and stuff. But you're right. All of her fans are six, maybe not even nine. We heard from a listener who said that their nine-year-old thinks that she's cringe. So like we're talking my children's age.

Put them to work. Yeah. And also, though, you think that it is coming full circle. Think of the people that were Jojo Siwa's age that also were in love with Jojo Siwa that are growing up alongside her. So I also imagine she has a lot of fan base that are in their late teens, early 20s too. I'm assuming that like that are just maybe even if they find her cringe at this point, but they're like, ah, but I grew up watching her. So I'm always going to have an affinity for her. You know what I mean? Perhaps. I, yeah, I actually. But even then, did you have

$900 when you're in your late teens, early 20s? No. No. And I, and I really don't, I really do wonder about this who her, who her fan base is because I imagine that those people who like grew up with her and liked her from when she was a kid, I imagine those people might also be trying to do some like differentiation in terms of like not liking the same things that they did when they're a kid. But, you know, and so much of her fan base was like this kind of like wholesome Christian squad, which is why it is so cool that she has come out and been so outspokenly supportive of, I mean, she's queer, but like how outspoken she's been. not all out queer people are so supportive of the trans community, which we can talk about Mike White if we want to.

All right. We can, all right. You know, all right, here's the thing. Okay, we've received a couple of emails about Mike White. And for those of you that are not also forever online, which I understand, there has been some talk that Mike White is possibly a transphobe. This is the creator, writer creator of White Lotus. And I asked MJ to look into it because I did like a, like, a, like a, a, like, a, I was a, like, just an ancillary auxiliary.

I don't know the names of words. I just say whatever pops out of my mouth. Ancillary. I just did a quick story. Curseery. Is what you're looking for? You know, I just feel like if you say it with intention. Absolutely.

You kind of get what I mean. You can get away with a lot. It's coming from a person that talks for a living. You know, sometimes you just make up words as you go. But doing a quick search on Mike White. nothing was popping up. So I was like, MJ, can you give me just like a small concise of like, okay, Mike White, transphobe, yes, no. I know you can't give me a yes or no, but can you give me your opinion. I did the opposite of a curse research. I spent hours on this, but I'm not going to

talk about that much here because I am acutely aware of being the annoying, non-binary person who cancels fun things. Yeah, I know who I am. I don't want to be that person. That is not, I love, That person, MJ, we appreciate your conversation. We appreciate. Shut up already. We appreciate your perspective of what you bring to a conversation. Shut up, MJ. Nothing you can say to me that I haven't already said to myself.

I was a feminist comedian in New York City in 2010. Okay, I know I'm annoying. Boo, bo, bo, bo, boom. I know that nobody wants to hear this. And I don't want to hear it either. I love the White Lotus. I'm not interested. I love White Lotus.

I'm not interested in saying anything bad about it. I want to pretend like it's not happening. I just want to be like, no, it can't. No, please don't. Long story short, there is no evidence that I have found. First of all, I'm not paying for Andrew Sullivan's podcast. It is that the full podcast is behind a paywall, but there was a Reddit post on Fomois about the Mike White, who very rarely does podcasts and like long form interviews, went on Andrew Sullivan's podcast. And I'm going to explain very briefly who Andrew Sullivan is, but he went on this podcast and he talks about the moment of Sam Rockwell's monologue about.

can I be a young Asian girl? And which is, which was by the way, I feel like a monologue that was extremely, you know, beloved and well received and nobody like experienced that monologue itself as transphobic. It was more just like, this is a really intense character thing. And it's this great monologue from Sam Rockwell. And it's this great opportunity for reaction from Walton Gagans, et cetera. But Andrew, the problem is Andrew Sullivan, the person hosting the podcast that Mike White went on.

Andrew Sullivan is a transphobe. And like, not just like a, he accidentally said something transphobic once. Like, he is a writer. He is a conservative. He identifies as not a liberal. And he has, parts of his life identified as a conservative. He's a yuck. And he has, what's that?

He's a yuck. He's a million reasons to yuck. And he has written extensively, you can find many things he's written that are, like, explicitly transphobic talking about, you know, rapid onset gender dysphoria, which is this like code for kids are making this up. He's anti-hormone treatment for youth, which is, again, you might be like, well, that sounds reasonable, but this is again, there's all these, like, if you follow this debate as it is, there's all these, like, there's all these, like, dog whistles for, like, I think that this is made up or I think that trans kids shouldn't get care. And he is, he is one of these. Which is dangerous in and of itself. Having a platform and saying those things is inherently dangerous.

He has a substack called, will big trans be held to account? Oh, Jesus Christ. All right. So he's a yuck. He's a yuck. He has a post about Dolan Mulvaney misgendering her and saying this is made up. This is a gay theater kid boy. Like he is specifically bad on trans issues. So the fact that Mike White went on the podcast is not great.

And then he talks about the Sam Rockwell monologue and he talks about autogenophilia, which is this idea that trans women are actually, it's this very trans. Again, it's a dog whistle. transphobic idea about that, you know, about being attracted to, it's, it's not great. It's not great. I don't think that anybody needs to stop enjoying White Lotus. Also, it's kind of hard to figure out what Mike White is saying because he's, he's kind of struggling through the conversation.

And you were saying he's a writer. He's not, he doesn't usually talk into a microphone. Yeah. Yeah. And so he is, but what Andrew Sullivan is saying, the conversation. isn't explicitly transphobic, but if there is a lot of context clues here, pointing toward, he's on a podcast with an actively transphobic writer and they're talking about autogonophilia, which is this dog whistle about transphobic dog whistle about trans women. And it doesn't,

so it's not like, cancel Mike White. There's an abundance of evidence that Mike White is an act of transphobic. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's just that if you care enough to go into this rabbit hole as I did, it is, it's just, it's a bit, it gives me a little tiny yucky feeling about about that specific monologue. Yeah. And also kind of casts this other bit of news from White Lotus in a, in a, like, in a different light, which is that Carrie Coon said that her White Lotus character was written to have a non-binary child and that that was supposed to be part of the tension in the friendships

of the three women when it comes up, did you vote for Trump? And that that was kind of like, it was originally, it was there to, like, add stakes to that. like if she has a non-binary kid and one of her friends voted for Trump, that makes that conversation even more heightened. And then that was taken out after Trump's election is what she said. And that's, and that story was not received as Mike White did this because he's transphobic. It was more, there's debate about that. Like, oh, I wonder why that happened. Did he do that because he didn't want to drive more hatred towards this subject with such a big platform? Did he or did he not? Like, it seems like on the faux moat read it on that,

people are split. Some people are like, well, that's shitty that he did that. And other people are like, there's a lot of nuance here, which is fine. But then I think just that piece of news in conjunction with him going on Andrew Sullivan's podcast does not feel great. But again, I'm not trying to cancel Mike White or White Lotus. I think there's, he, he didn't say anything that explicit. There's just a lot of little, he's just swimming in a pool that I don't want anyone to be it. We don't like any of the turtles in the pool. There's piss in the pool. There's turtles and there's turtles and piss and then that means there's turtle piss too. And so it's just like, I don't want to be covered in piss in the pool.

And you're like, I love the person in this pool. I love what you make, but why are you in this pool, you know? We don't have to start calling it an ool because I don't want any pee in it. Come on. I'm just like the sign that the people put up. And also, you can't have diarrhea and go into a hot tub either. I can read all the signs around a pool. Thank you for explaining that to us, though, MJ, because I really, you know,

You know what I'm going to say it. I don't want to stop watching White Lotus. Me neither, man. I really love White Lotus. I really want. So it's a great source of joy in my life every week. Yes. And also I really enjoy Mike White. And I like that like he's on a bunch of reality. I like that. Sometimes we don't need to know all of the inner thoughts of the people who create the things we like. And I don't mean that to like, I was really agonizing about this. I don't want to let anyone off the hook, right? But like, I don't know, listening to him on this podcast, I was like, I would be happier if I had never known this existed.

Yes. Yeah. All of it. I just don't want to know what you think about this. No, no, no, no. I don't. But I do want to know what everybody in the cast of love on the spectrum has to think. And that is because season three has dropped.

Oh. And Jeff and I were up until two o'clock in the morning watching it. Oh, my God. Because I didn't realize until it was like almost right before we were about to go to sleep. And I was like, love on the spectrum. And then we just had to watch, accidentally watched three episodes of it. And it just, man, love on the spectrum. It is the opposite of everything.

All the icky things you just had all the inky feelings that are now in your brain, let them be washed away. Watch love on the spectrum. And just believe in the fact that there are good people that exist in this world. There are beautiful families that exist in this world. and that we have an opportunity to watch just a snapshot of people that want to explain their story and their perspective. And it is beautiful. That's, it seems like all of the, I follow all these people on Instagram who were on it and then found platforms and now have these big accounts where they talk about, you know, autism and neurodivergence.

And all of them have like really good things to say about the show. Lots of advocacy for the show. Lots. Yeah. Seems like this is, it really, this was one of those shows where when it first came out, I was like, is this okay? But it seems like the, you know, it seems like it's doing, has done like really great things for the people on the show at least.

It has. It's giving them, it's given them such an opportunity to show that autism is not one thing. Yeah. You know, that it's showing in the, like, the very varied ways, especially with how much the conversation has changed in how it, it presents itself. Totally. And if you were born as a man or if you were born as a man or if you were born a woman and how, like, how it is so different.

And this season specifically, there's this one, one person, Madison, who I immediately was just like, I, like, I only want, like, you watch the show and every single person on it, it's just like, I just hope the best for them. Yeah. I just want them to be happy. I only, like, it's so the opposite of how I feel in any other reality show that I watch. Every other reality show. I'm like, yeah, rip them apart.

Yeah, yeah, suck his dick. Yeah, and then oh, fuck them in the bathroom and be like, oh, baby, but I can be better, you know. You're talking about Temptation Island right now. I was talking about Temptation Island. I was. And I also did start watching Million Dollar Secret this week as well, which is the new Netflix reality show. It's traders-esque. It may as well be traitors, but without reality.

stars. And it is, which essentially I think that that's what the traders UK is, I believe, as well. Non-famous people, right? Not famous people. But what's interesting about Million Dollar Secret, sorry, I'm jumping all over the place. Million Dollar Secret is, like, you know who the millionaire is. It's like a mix between traders and the mole. You know, there's one millionaire and you know who it is. But then they have to do these, like, ridiculous challenges to, like, get things, like, to get extra votes or things like that. And, but also, the millionaire has the opportunity to release the money to someone else. So they're having a lot of fun with that.

So it is enough of a nuance that, man, if you're just like stoned on the couch and you're looking at your phone, put it on. It's not changing my life. But if you want to really just shut your brain off. Always. Always. It is almost only what I'm looking for recently. And this is the problem, though, is that.

that love on the spectrum drops the entire season in one go. And I'm going to watch it in the next day and a half. Okay. All right. Well, that's good to know because we finally made it to season two of severance. Ooh, man, what a good show. I got no complaints about season two. I don't know what Holden was yelling about.

Well, he was yelling because it took so long in between the seasons. But that was because there was, you know, a bunch of like, you know, it was like a quarantine. It was like other things were going on. And I think that, like, stopped it. You know, nothing shot. for a year or so. And, you know, there's things like that. I guess it was only months.

It felt like a year. I guess it was only months, MJ. Well, is it, did we talk about everything that we want to talk about? I mean, Cardi B's kid drew on her $60,000 bag. That's fun. Don't keep your $60,000 bag. Where the kid can get it. Yeah, I will say that we tried the new, this is a little Jackie Snobie.

knackies for you. Oh. I will say that we were trying the new street chalupas. They had these new like cheese-crusted tiny street chalupas. And I wanted to give a review of it. But it was while my friend's dog was actively dying in the room. And Jeff's review of it was, you know, they tasted so good that a dog was dying in the room. And it's like I almost forgot for a minute.

You brought the Taco Bell to. Eddie's house? Well, the thing is, is that when a friend is watching their animal pass away, it's like, what do you eat? You know, he wasn't hungry. He hadn't eaten all day. And it was midnight. And there's only a couple of places that are open at midnight.

And we're like, well, you have to eat something. So we picked up some Taco Bell and brought him Taco Bell just so he could put something in his body. This is like the equivalent of when people bring a casserole after someone dies. This was the LA grungy friend version. It's Friday night. It's midnight. We've got some street. Friday night Taco Bell. Gotcha.

Yeah. That's very sweet. Okay. I take back my judgment. That's very nice. Thank you. It was after Jackin. So it wasn't even like I could like whip something up.

I had been drinking for hours. And I was like, okay. All right. All right. Yeah. And I didn't pick up the talk about my sober husband drove us to the Taco Bell. But I was, yes, charioted over. And so that's the thing.

It really, you know, I wouldn't say that the street chaloupe has put a smile on my face while it happened, but I was able to choke them down. And if that's not a review for a Taco Bell item, I don't know what is. You were able to live, must live, you know. Thank you. And the dog did not. But that's fine. You know, we all grow and we have traumas and we, uh, together as a community, get through really difficult experiences together. And that's what Taco Bell's for It's in for good times and bad times And it will be on your side forevermore

And that side is going to be a side of queso Put it in the bathtub Oh, my wasting all the queso I'm still angry That people are upset with Benny Blanco For being angry at wasting the Koso that he put in the bathtub Too much Koso

I don't think he filled the bathtub with the Koso I had to be You think that you think There was a false bottom. I think there was a false bottom. I know. I don't think it was full of case.

I'm just saying, you know, in these times, talk about coming together to support in their struggle. Obviously, everyone is upset right now. Everyone's struggling all the time. People don't have enough money for groceries and you're going to fill a bathtub full of queso. Benny Blanco seems a bit tone deaf. You know what I mean? Benny Blanco. But then are you that angry at all of the April Fool's products that came out from corporations this week?

Yes, I am. Are you angry about you ask that list filled me with rage. I included a list of you guys know. I mean, we created April Reels Day for a reason. We hate it here. We hate April Fool's Day so much. In fact, we recorded page 7 this week on April Fool's Day and barely pretended it was going on because I hate it. I don't acknowledge its existence.

Nobody better put a part on me. And the people that, like, here's at least now, we are way more aware. of the fact that corporations want to jump in on April Fool's Day. So I think now most people go, okay, like I saw and I appreciate as a snack fluencer that you guys alerted me and I love you and I appreciate you. I appreciate how many people sent me the fact that the Sour Patch Kids had put out the day before April Fool's Day that they decided to drop the sour and that they were just going to be patch kids because people were going to. because people were getting so upset about the sour, and it was, of course, the funniest April Fool's Day prank of all time. Are you not still laughing?

I can hear the echoes of your laughter, MJ, from the week of the Patch Kids. Everything on that list made me enraged. There's just not... Patch kids! Yes! Yes! That's like at best, you're getting like a rye. smile out of this whole, however much, how many meetings did they have to do to make that post?

How many, how much? So many meetings. Wasted energy for like a little, huh, huh, you know. Ha, ha, ah. But that's it. The only time it's April Fool's Day is fun is if you work in an elementary school because that a bunch of like five-year-olds run up to you and go like, miss your shoes untied. And then it's not untied.

And that's it. And that's funnier. That's fun. That's fun. That's fun. That's fun. That's fun. Funnyer than what Sourapatch Kids did, you know.

Usually I love a commitment to a bit, but then I even feel now that the April Fool's campaigns are to, like, it's not committing to the bit. It is so like, ah, we're just, we're not, like, I even would rather the places actually make some of it and, like, if you're doing that, if you're going to make a limited amount and sell them, I do feel that it is just corporate chilling at that point. point, but at least that's kind of fun. Yeah. But for you to just make a post, I think it's just like commit to the bit then. Either don't do it or commit. Yeah. No, I agree.

This holiday needs to be put into the ground. Put it into the ground to make it all real. Reality is crumbling around us. Do we need anything more real than that? Oh, great. We were just talking about, ooh, another even greater depression. Ooh, good. And then you're going to tell me.

be so great. You're going to tell me that Raising Cains is going to start making a lotion so you're putting Raising Cain sauce on your face. Har, har, har, har. You're going to have to wake up earlier in the morning than that if you're going to want to get a laugh out of this bitch. Just like scrolling and reading the funny bits like from under a blanket out in the street shivering like the rabbit and Muppet Christmas Carol. I do feel like Bean Bunny and I feel like at every second I look at this. list. Even the Dutch brothers. Oh, and I love their coffee. Don't get me wrong. You know I'm a coffee, bitch. But then they wanted to do it. It's like, what if it's

picklebacks? We're coffee shop, but we're selling pickles. Yeah, the Ritz. Ritz Crackers is going to be opening a new luxury hotel. Ritz Crackerton. You know, and they probably used AI to make all these pictures. I'm sorry.

Listen, I'm here. I just said before how I'm not trying to cancel everyone's Fun, but here I am. Fun is canceled. I hate this list. Fun is canceled. April Fool's Day can go fuck. We're not smiling anymore.

Oh, good. That's what I was hoping. Man, you should have seen me. We, Jeff and I were working a con not that long ago. And one of the booths was all just AI art. It was all, and it's just like, we're at a small artist's convention. Get the fuck out of here with this shit. Also, recently my tagline has been like, get the fuck out of here with that.

And I don't know if that's good for me. Like it's great for me in the whole like trying to become 25% more of a bitch in 2025. And that is really helping me, you know, along of just telling me like or fuck right off with that. I've been saying you can fuck right off with that. Love that. And I don't, is that what we need? Is that the kind of anger I should be, you know, putting out into the world, MJ? Yeah, because you put out a lot of positivity into the world.

But some things don't deserve our positive energy. Some things deserve to fuck off. I just feel like I am fairly positive for the most part. I guess I did a lot of yelling today. Yeah. Well, I don't think, you know, I think that we try to keep it fun here. And then when we, when something deserves yelling, we try to yell. But I think that we've displayed a lot of personal growth today by going from making fun of Jojo Sua to thinking that she's really nice.

Yeah. I mean, she didn't create. queer pop music, but, you know, she's also a child. And sometimes, you know, kids say the darndest things. Yeah, it's chapel, you know, chapel, this is how I feel now. Chapel's 27, child, you know, let her make mistakes. Let Joe Joe be cringe. Let them, let them all.

Yeah, man. That's a famous book now. Let them. Oh, I know about Mel. You think I don't know about Mel. I love the let them theory. Let them. Oh, go ahead, let them.

Oh, they're going to feel that way? Go ahead. Let them. Let's what I listen in the whole book. It's just Jackie's voice. Let them. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Let them. I mean, have you ever listened to Mel Robbins? Mel Robbins is her name, I believe. Yeah, Mel Robbins. Yeah, no, I have not. Follow her on TikTok. Again, every parent influencers tell me to read this book.

Follow her on TikTok. It's very, it's healing to my soul. Really? I've been trying to like, I've been trying. There's so many, I'm sorry. I know we've got to get it here. But there's so many TikTok peep. And maybe it's just because I need to be working on my

self-care more, I guess. That's what the TikTok is telling me. And that, like, it's more about, like, stepping into your brain and, like, so many practices of, like, looking into the mirror and saying something to yourself. And I can't get myself to do it. But everybody says it, like, really changes you. And Mel, one of her things is, like, it's, like, high-fiving you yourself every day in the mirror. Oh, God.

My problem is, is that then I see the... fingerprints on the mirror all the time. I'm not going to do that. But the fingerprints on the mirror, I don't want to high-five myself because the fingerprints on the mirror. But also then, am I Alec Baldwin? Like, am I just, am I watching the show to such an extent that I'm just picking up Alec Baldwin's tendencies? I don't know if a person can do that in just 45 minutes a week. But we will get out of here. Look up Mel Robbins. Yeah. All right. I think I'll probably read the damn book, even though that makes me also filled with rage. I'm not high-fiving the mirror.

Let them. The thought of doing that makes me want to scream into the void, but that's fine. Everyone loves this damn book. I'll let them. I'll read it. You got to let them, MJ. We got to let them. And remember everybody, you've got to let them.

They're going to feel how they're going to feel. You got to let them. Let them. Because you can't change how other people are feeling. You can only change yourself. Oh, my God, we're learning. We're growing here at Second Helpings. Thank you so much, MJ.

Anything you need to plug? Anything you need to throw down? Uh-huh. Yeah! Keep a hug! I literally just, I just, every day I just look at the phone and then I want to throw it across the room. Yeah. And then I just say, nope, nope, not right now, not right now.

All right now, guys. I guess I plug that. Yeah, just think about Snooki is now going to start releasing. She's doing a collab with BJs with fried pickle ice cream. So, you know, think about that instead. Every time you want to throw the phone across the. room anytime you were reading something like that. Just think about Snooki's Fried Pickle Ice Cream Collab and how, you know what?

Govah. In the past, she couldn't find the beach, but now she knows where the pickles are. I will end the show on that. All right. I love that. Thank you, everybody for listening. You can check us out at patreon.com slash page seven podcast. We just started Heather Gay's book, Bad Mormon.

And you can email us at page seven podcast at gmail.com. And shall we sing the song, Jackie? Let's do it. Make it better. Second pod round. I think that one does work better. It is better. We're growing.

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