Page 7 - Second Helpings - Scared, Sad, and Horny

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

This week on Second Helpings, Jackie's feelin' BONE'd and MJ just finished gettin' PLURIB'd! We're still following 'The Traitors' and support their hilarious takedown of the human personification of a Tim Robinson character that's known as Michael Rapaport, Jackie ain't got TIME for thrillers unless there's peni! Everyone's meltin' and slidin' for 'Heated Rivalry', including the Olympics' committee since they'll be the TORCHBEARERS THIS YEAR! MJ and Gideon started 'His & Hers' after finishin' that PLURIBIN'. 'Days Of Our Lives 'has 15,000 episodes and has been runnin' for OVER 60 YEARS! While 'The Pitt' as everyone talkin' and Noah Wyle's givin' shitty boners. 'Game of Thrones' has a new show comin' out, but it's also NOT 'Game of Thrones'. Jackie and Geoff went to a 'Crimes of Passion' museum and honed their severed penis tossin' skills. Meghan Trainor and her husband welcomed their 3rd kid via surrogacy and the internet proved it still sucks. MJ's STILL thinkin' 'bout that inappropriate mommy/son dance the BeckHAMs had, there's also a photo of William Shatner showin' he's ready to die. Lisa Barlow got an 'I don't know her' from Ben Affleck after lying about him as a cover, the internet went after JLo for supposedly snubbin' the Glambot, Green Day is joinin' Bad Bunny for the Super Bowl and we're all gonna PUTH our pants! All this and MORE on this weeks Second Helpings! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You are damn right. It will be because we're thick and we're hard with a bone temple. Not both of us, don't worry. MJ, I would never ask you to watch Bone Temple. All right? Bone Temple is the antithesis of anything you would probably enjoy. It is the second. 28 days later.

28 days later, it's the second in the trilogy. But technically it's overall the... The four... Four. Fourth. It's the fourth overall. Thank you, Adam. Okay.

It is the fourth overall. And it is, but it was like the last episode, the last movie was the beginning of this trilogy of movies for 28 years later. When it is now 28 years later. And it's like, are zombies really still the big problem? Or is it man? Or is it man? Always man. It's always man.

this from Buffy week after week. We learned it from Buffy. We learn it from reality. Oh, you're damn right. Oh my God. Remember that John, was it John Ritter? The John Ritter episode with Buffy where that was, I mean, he did end up being a computer. But I think that for most of the episode we're like, he's just a bad step guy.

That's a scary stepdaddy is the scariest villain of the entire season so far. It was very scary and I obviously still think about it, even though there are many other things a part of Buffy that I bring up every day about how, you know, sometimes maybe death's all or gift. And I don't know. And it is scary to dream about. I can't talk about that episode, MJ. I can't talk about how reality is, is the hell. Yeah, season six of Buffy is really, uh, don't, I would say, uh, well, I was going to say

don't watch it if you're in like a place where you long to not be in this realm. but maybe I don't know. I wonder if it might be comforting. Jawsweedin really seems to suggest that death is better than life. And while I get it, I'm not sure if it was a great message sent to a bunch of teenagers at the time. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if they should have said it. I feel like if I was watching it as a teenager, I'd be like, whoa, wow.

I mean, you just put that out there, huh? You really just said it. I don't need that in my brain, but I can't. I can't stop thinking about an MJ, and I can't. I know we're not here to talk about Buffy. But everybody, please, going out over our Buffy watchalongs, I can't stop thinking about Buffy. And it's interesting because I know that Buffy, in fact, was the opposite for many, it was a lifeline. I think we've heard, I mean, the most interesting thing about doing Buffy is realizing how Buffy was like, for many people, the single thing that got them through that, like, that part of their youth.

So, but yeah, it is, it's, it's, it's, no, it's. a lot of, we're a lot of emotional reckoning going on. I'm, I'm an emotional wreck myself. Ooh, do tell. You want to get into it? Yeah. Oh, well, you don't want to, how much time do you have? You don't want to go down that road. No, no, no, no, no, you certainly don't. But that's why we leave the gremlins that live in our brains. We leave them at the doorstep, all right? Yeah, we leave them to doorstep. And you don't know, I don't know if you want to start talking about Tritterset away, but I just want to start by saying good fucking ridden smikelo Rappapour. I would never want to see you. again, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. And it was very cathartic to watch a bunch of people be like, you know what, Michael Rapapoor, get the fuck out.

Get out. Whether you're a traitor or whether you're a fateful, we don't give a fuck. Johnny Weir said. Johnny Weir was like, I don't, because Michael Rapopor said something that was absolutely on purpose, homophobic. Oh, it was on purpose. Of course it was. He's a fucking asshole.

That's what he does. And then he just blames it on being from New York City. And I'm like, no, that's not. You can't Lisa Barlow your way out of this. It is really insane how many times that people can be like, I'm from New York. I'm from New York. I went to a rant. I failed out of a Rasmus Hall.

Okay. So did many people. It doesn't let you be an asshole. But yeah, then Johnny Ware was like, I don't care who you are. I don't care what you are. All I care is that you get out of my fucking castle. And I was like, yes, Johnny Ware, it's not even your castle. But I love that you said that.

Kick him out. I love that everybody was just like, you got to get out of here, buddy. That is the energy we need in 2016. You know what? You said something. fucked up, let's all unite and get you the fuck out of here. Yes. And it is, it really was like, it was beautiful to see. Beautiful to see everybody come together in just such a pure hatred for this piece of garbage.

And I love, you always know when somebody's getting the bad at it and you know when somebody was a piece of shit to work with. The amount of times they showed Michael Rappaport eat in the traders is hilarious. That is so completely. on purpose to make fun of him as he, because for those of you not watching, he takes his food and he puts the plate up to his mouth and he shovels the food into his mouth like it's like a big plow, you know? Yeah, it's weird.

Horrific. One of those people, one of those rare people, I think we can all summon the number one person like this, where like the disgustingness of their insides manifests in the disgustingness of their outsides. outsides, yes. And that is, you know, again, there's a, there's one guy who takes the cake on that. But the other is Michael Rappaport. And you're just like, you're a pig man. You're a little piggy man. And yes, you make like, quote unquote, good reality TV because you're a villain that everybody loves. But I was very worried that they were going to keep him around. Even the traders were like, we want to keep him around because he's a good foil.

Oh, yeah. He's just upsetting everyone. And I was, but he, yeah, I'm, you know, you know, me, I'm like, this. fucking asshole should have ever been on the show the first place. Get rid of him. Yeah. So now I'm into it. The meme of Michael Rappaport, a picture of him and he's got like a sore on his lip and he's got a big fedora on and he looks horrible. And it is just says like he looks like a Tim Robinson character that won't go take care of

himself but keeps buying increasingly larger and more ridiculous fedoras. A hundred percent. I was like, yes, that is exactly. What he reminds me. 100%. I smile every time I see that meme. Or just thinking about Michael Rapaport in the episode where Tim Robinson is the taxi guy that is like he's got the cigar and the hat painted on the window. So he can pretend like he's smoking a cigar and being like an old-time crooner as he has.

I'm sorry. I'm just describing a Tim Robinson sketch. And he's so funny to be I just think he's so fucking funny. Oh, I love this. This is, I bring this up a lot, but this is your, whatever you talk about,

uh, uh, Tim Robinson, you are like Chris Farley in the Saturday Night Live sketch when he's talking to Paul McCartney. And he's like, you remember? You remember?

You said in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make. That was awesome. That was awesome. That was awesome. I would be like that in a room with Tim Robinson. I was like, I feel like there are very few people that I wouldn't be able to like get past that with. But Tim Robinson has just got to be one of my favorites.

It gets me. Man, also, did you watch the chair company? No, I think that's going to be, Gideon and I finish, Pluribus. Thank you. Oh, my God, y'all got blur. You know what was the worst thing was that we, and that I hate this about streaming. I didn't, neither of us realized we were watching the last episode. Oh, no, the last episode.

Oh, no. So we got to the last episode, which ends on a big, big, like, wow. Oh, yeah, you hung on that clip. And then we, like, rushed to go get to the next episode, and we were both like, what? Nebiz. What? You got naybeds. Sorry.

So, yeah, but I think I am going to bring in the chair company, but we did start his and hers, which everyone is talking about. Oh, yes. Tell me more. Tessa Thompson is there, and she is great. John Bernthal is there and he's great. Thank God I've got you to watch the thrillers. It really, it takes a lot. Unless the word erotic is in front of it,

it takes a lot for me to watch a thriller. And then I do ask, like, someone was telling me about a book I've got to read. And then I was just like, and there's fucking in it. And she's like, no, it's just a really good. And it was like, I will, I'll get to it. It's true. I really don't do thrillers because I'll often bring up things that I'm seeing, like everyone online is talking about this.

It has a bunch of famous people in it. And if it's a thrill, you're like, what? Like, you haven't. Yeah, it doesn't cross my radar. And yet I talk to so many people that I'm like, and you've watched Heated Rivalry. And then they look at me with Blank Stairs. And I'm like, how have you, is it can't just be my algorithm that, like, has been only heated rivalry for a month and a half, right?

No, heated rivalry broke through. Heated rivalry. I feel like it broke through. I was like, they were at the Golden Globes. Like, I'm not, I'm not just. living in a horny prison. Yeah, no, no, they broke through. I've also decided, again, I'm very upset about everything that's happening in the world,

and specifically in Minneapolis right now, and I've decided no one is allowed to be happy online except Connor Story and Hudson, what's his name? Williams? Hudson Williams. I saw a very, very, very cute. It actually wasn't even from this week, I think it was from two weeks ago. Extremely cute Instagram Rule of Connor Story dancing in a backyard to Madonna's Like a Prayer. I was like, you're allowed to be happy.

No one else. Yes. No one else allowed to be happy. And they're going to be torchbearers at the Olympics. Or seriously? Yeah. Oh. I know.

Which also, by the way, oh my God, winter Olympics is coming up soon. Oh, my God. Is it coming like this 2026 soon? Yeah, bro. Like I'm talking like in a couple of weeks. Whoa. Yeah, man. Get your ass is ready to fall the ice.

This is the best promo for the winter. Olympics that has ever been. And that is the rivalry and who didn't mean to. But I, if we're talking, you know, we're going to be watching people stretching on ice, I will be there. Yes, this is lots of good jokes also about the only ice I want is the ice that my gay hockey boyfriends are skating on. Yes, you're damn right.

I love every single hat that says it. And it is scary to purchase merchandise. Because I was like, Jackie, before you buy a heated rivalry shirt, think about, you know, it's like, but I thought about that before I got that, got that gog in me shirt last year when everybody was having a Gogasance. And I still wear it all the time and I love it. So I feel like if I got a heated rivalry shirt, I'll still enjoy it even, because they're having another season come out. Oh, yeah. Get your shirt. Yeah, you're not going to regret that.

Right. I have to have it. And I can wear it. I mean, I wish I could wear it simultaneously with my Spike and Buffy shirt. but let's see if I can, I don't know, how many shirts I start wearing all the time. Yeah, no, you got to get all the inappropriate shirts to wear because I, as I've mentioned before on the show, I can't wear the amount of inappropriate shirts I really want to wear. My brother has a shirt that says, if you don't like seeing trans people, gouge your eyes out.

Yeah. I really want it, but I can't wear that because I've only ever around children. Yeah, and they should also understand that sentiment. That goes to them, too, as far as I'm concerned. Can I wear it in the school counseling office? Is that professional attire? I feel like that's a line that you are allowed to draw on the sand. And I'm fine with it.

And if those middle schoolers don't figure that shit out, it's like figure it out now. I'm glad they're figuring out in middle school. Oh, yeah. I think it's actually, what I really need is, I mean, I've had nothing but lovely experiences with kids and families alike. But, you know, you hear sometimes about parents having a harder time with it than the kids. So I think if anything, you know, you get a little, don't like seeing trans people, gouged your eyes out, you know, plaque and you put it behind you for when you're doing your Zoom calls with parents.

I'm not doing that. There you go. There you're going. No, but you just get a plaque. Honestly, talk to the situation. His plaque game is strong. Yeah. So if you talk to him, I bet he can get you his plaque guy.

And then you can start making these gouge your eyes out plaques. Yeah. Yeah. I've got, I mean, I've got a situation plaque right in front of me on my desk that was gifted to me by you. Yeah. And does it motivate you every day? Yes, I am currently turning those broken pieces into masterpieces. Got to turn those broken pieces into masterpieces.

Thank you for noticing. Even though I'm feeling pretty broken right now. Have you tried saying that phrase to people, though? Like, have you started when like, I mean, have you thought about turning your broken pieces into masterpieces? Maybe I should, you know, I also do sometimes some of the, I work with all these brilliant educators who all have different ways of like, you know, talking to kids about stuff. And somebody I was talking to was like telling me all he has all these like really helpful kind of like motivational phrases that he says. And I realized I was like, I just never do that. Like I never talk to my own kids or even like about like, you know, I don't say

things like you got to turn those broken pieces into masterpieces. But like also when I was a kid, I loved that shit. So I'm like maybe I should get more like like, like, you know, kind of like a power sayings and compulsively repeat them a la like the situation. Yes. It's almost like you've got to embrace the firehorse. And I feel that that is part of it. I think that colloquialisms I think is like the foundation of a fire horse's burnt barn. Or I guess maybe they have a fire barn that they get to live in and that everything's on fire and then it never turns to ash.

Yeah, that's probably it. It's a whole world of fire. But it's not hell. I'm assuming a lot. It's not hell. No. No. no, no, no. Not in just like

where Buffy was not sent to. But his and hers, though. We should check this out? I think so. I am enjoying it a lot. Sunita's in it? And I love Sunita. I know. I was like Sunita. And I love Tessa Thompson and Pablo

Schreiber, who is I just kept screaming the season of the wire where the people are white, which is season two, the docks. He's there. Where I always fall off. Yeah. And if I could just get through the dock season, I think I've gotten there three times. Understandable. And then I fall off every time. Understandable because you're like, season one feels so good. And then you get to season two and you're like, what the hell is this? But it is also good. Although I haven't revisited it. And I know David Simon has like since like really shot the bed. It's one of those guys where I'm like, I wish you had never joined Twitter. Because if you had just made the wire and I never knew what else you thought, then that would be fine. Because I think the wire holds up. But his,

Yeah, he, you know, I don't trust his broader analysis. But anyway, Pablo Shriver is there. Sanita is there. And, yeah, it's, you know, it's just a thriller. I don't know. I, the way that you live for erotica, I live for thrillers. For thriller, yeah. And it's sexy.

There's sex. There's eroticness in it. And, ooh, they're a husband and a wife, and there's been a murder. Oh, and they don't trust each other? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then they have untrusting sex. Yeah. This is my only problem with thrillers is that if I do try to summarize them, I'm like, I don't know. They're looking for someone. Stuff's happening. Yeah. And they're broody while they do it. Yeah, they're fighting. I'm along for the ride.

Hell yeah. I love being swept away in any kind of story, you know? And I think that it, I wish that my brain didn't have these shackles on it. And I feel that this is a temporary thing, maybe, or maybe. I've just finally truly found myself and recognize that I need it a little bit more horny. Yeah. But I also do watch things without any kind of hornyness whatsoever. That's why I watch things. Honestly, Bone Temple, not horny. Not horny. Not horny in the slightest.

And I really liked it. I think that maybe my thing is I either like to be scared. I like to be sad or I like to be horny. Scared, sad, or horny. Yeah. Scared, sad, or horny. Those are, that's my wheelhouse. Like the zones of regulation.

which is like an emotional intelligence tool. Yeah, your zones of regulation are scared, sad, and horny. Yep. Wow, just write that on my tombstone pizza, I guess. Scared, sad, and horny. It's the Jackie Zabowski story. Yeah, I think mine are like sad, whatever state of emotion you're in while you watch a thriller. It's not quite scared.

It's like, oh, what will happen next? Yeah, wrapped. Yes. Sad. Enthralls. Yeah. Sad, wrapped, or catatonic. But not Michael Raptoport.

Not Michael Rappaport. Yeah. Fuck you. Also, can we throw it out there that Ron Funches, and I do really like Ron Funches, he's kind of given, and he is right, and we all hate Michael Rappaport, and yes, he is correct. But he's kind of given wet bag. In fact, Jeff and I got into, not an argument, but we got, because Jeff loves Ron Funch's,

and he was like, yeah, but. But he's right. He's there to do a... So for anyone not watching traitors, his whole thing is apparently, like, they're on set all day, right? There's cameras everywhere. And in between shooting stuff,

Derinda, who is one of my favorite bitches from Real Housewives of New York, she is... Has said to Ron, like, I think you're the traitor because I try to get to know you. I've asked about your family. I've asked about your life.

You're the only one. that will give absolutely nothing. And then Ron's response was, because I don't want to talk to you. I'm not here to talk to you. I'm here to do a reality show and I'm doing my job. I like that. I was like, all right, Ron Funches.

Jeff also was completely on board. But I was like, but I have done as someone that's like, I did like a top elf. You know, it's like I have done those kind of reality. Like there's so much downtime in between that you're obviously not shooting. And I was like, And what this sounds like is that he's still off to the side and everybody's talking to each other. And he's the one that's just like, I don't want to talk to you.

Yeah. I'm not here to talk to you. Which that's fine. Relatable. Relatable. But when you're on set, like, it's like, then why are you doing this show? Like, it's like you knew what this, what like, well, like, it's your manager making you do this. Because everybody's annoying, right?

Of course. But it's also you're trapped there. So what are you going to sit there and you're in, like, you're in this beautiful place. And you're just going to sit there and be like, no, not talking to you. I know. I, yeah. But I will say, Jeff did help me see the other perspective. He's like, would you want to talk to her?

And I was like, yeah. And he's like, yeah, but you would want to, he's like, would you want to talk to all of them? He's like, they probably just don't get along. And that's okay, too. Yeah. Yeah. No, I feel like there's two beasts that live in me. And one is that when I'm-

Tell me about the piece. One is the one that when I'm thinking about going somewhere, where I have to be around other people. Like when I was in graduate school the first time and it was like it started remote and then it turned to in person. And when I was thinking about like I'm going to be around a bunch of people, even though of course when everything was remote, I was like, I long for society again. And then I had to think about I'm going to go be around a bunch of people. And I'm like the one beast wants to just like put on giant headphones and dark sunglasses and put a hoodie over my face and be like, I will be in this room, not interacting with anybody. Thank you very much. Which is how I always think I want to

be when I go out to be around people. But then, which, and I think that that's the beast that lives in Rod Funches, and I love that beast. And then, for me, there is then I get around other people and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'd love to talk to you. You know, so like I usually, like, it's this, the anticipation and the fear of being around other people usually is a different thing than the actual feeling of being around other people, which for me, I actually usually take joy in, you know? Yes. And so I, but I, I, yeah, I got to I'm team Ron on this. Like, it is true that he is playing the game in an interesting way. And mind you, this is my first time really getting into The Traders.

And I will be honest, the first two episodes, I was like, I just don't like this. And then by the next, by, now we're five episodes in and I finally got into it. Once you start to get to know that, like, really, that's why I was like, once you get to know them and then, like, the big players start coming out. Like, that's when you get, you're fascinated by it. I love how, because I know that I would be so bad, I would be so bad at being a traitor. I would be so bad at being like, I'm not me. You thought me good. But like I'm so not mysterious that I do love watching.

Like, I like the challenge of Lisa Rina trying to be small, but then also having to be herself. She's terrible at being a trainer. I think. Because she was like, which is hilarious. She had to pretend that she had been like on the other side. She had been like the one to murder somebody, but she had to pretend that she had been one of the ones up for murder.

And she obviously didn't prepare her lies at all. She just comes in and they're like, what was it like? And she just freezes like a deer in the headlights. No plan for what her lie was going to be. And then, yeah, everyone's like, I've noticed that she just like never talks when we're trying to talk about who the traitors are.

And, yeah, she's. And especially when Doreen is like, and she's always talking. I love that. She's like very bad at playing it cool, which totally that would also be me. But yeah, Ron Funge's approach is to just be like, I don't want to get to know any of you people. And every week I'll just suggest a new person who might be the traitor. And like, if I'm right, great.

And if I'm wrong, whoops. And that's it. And so now everyone's like, you're kind of, maybe it's you. And he's like, it's not me. I just don't want to play this game, you know. I also do, I don't know much about Lisa Rina and like her life outside of Traders because I haven't gotten into her world of Real Housewives. And I, of course, I have heard of her through the years as an actress and everything. She is. She is. I believe Beverly Hills.

Beverly Hills. And her husband, she's married to Harry Hamlin and everybody now, like now that she's being spoken of so much on the traders, they're also talking a lot. about her marriage to Harry Hamlin and how much everybody loves their marriage. Oh. But I haven't watched any of the Real Housewives, so I don't really know anything too much about it. But I, the eye lingers, I watched one. And now I'm getting all of these things on my algorithm of their marriage. And they look like it's like up there with like a Kurt Russell Goldie Hawn situation, where it looks like they're just, they really dig each other.

other and it seems like their best friends and that they're having a blast. Yeah, that's cute. And good for them. Yeah. But I also don't know. I haven't looked at it. I don't know if this is just the lies of the algorithm as well. Well, I like any housewife who's, any like real housewife, housewife, whose husband's money comes from something that isn't like pure evil. And so I think that having it be Harry Hamlin is great. Whereas you look at those Salt Lake City bitches and you're like, ain't no way that your husband's money isn't blood money, you know. Oh, yeah. So if you're a housewife and it's not blood money, I say, God bless you.

Good for you. Good for you. It's days of our lives money. You know those soap actresses, man, they get paid out the wazoo. Yeah. Not true. They have to work very hard every day. Man, the soap life, I used to dream about working in soaps.

I really thought that there was going to be a place for me in soap. day. And then I heard more about the world of shooting soaps. And it is an absolute nightmare. If you think about it, they had to have new episodes five days of the week. Like that's insane. And like we talk about Love Island and we talk about like, that's got to be so crazy. But that was, that's a short amount of time. Soap opera's word. Like that's so much to ask of people for so long. Yeah. That's like doing a Broadway run, but like for years. Yeah. And it just doesn't stop. It's like not, it's not season. Like, it's like, there's 61 seasons of days of our lives. Sixty one. Yeah. Yeah. That's, it's also still crazy to me that like there is still like people have standing appointments to still what,

like, is that going to go away at some point? Yeah. I don't know. I, I, yeah, the Soaps, the Soaps world is fascinating. There's been 15,000 episodes of days of our lives. 15,000. And the production value is so low, you know. Sorry, I don't mean to be going down this rabbit hole right now, but that's nuts. Because I think a lot about like Mariska Haggertay's life and like how interesting it would be to get a role when you're very young, a young actor. and then just stay in that role for your entire life.

It's so the opposite of what most actors experience. But even that, even doing like a weekly produced procedural drama would be a very different than, I mean, doing a soap is like, again, it's like doing a play. You're just like, you're just going, the production value is quite low. I think you're not really rehearsing. You're just going in and doing it, right? No, you just need to know the, you just literally, you're like getting pages, like memorizing real fast, doing them in front of. It's such a quick turnaround and think about like how destroyed the writers are. Oh my God.

It just like, I just imagine them drained bags. I guess she'll, I don't know, be taken by an alien. But also take her by, yes, please, you know. Is passion still going? Yeah, I don't know. That's the other thing. Is our soap surviving in the streaming world? Days of our lives still going.

Is our lives still going? That's nice. I'm still going. No, the passions died a long time ago, I guess. Yeah, I guess that one, that one is not,

was not really long for this world, not a 15,000 episode or anyway. Not like the pit. Bro. The pit. Every week, I think it just, you just,

every week, I, I don't even have much to say about it. It's just, it's really good. It's very good. And I, you know,

this woman that's coming in to replace Dr. Robbie is just she's a tight wand. She is a bit of a stick in the ER and that's like you'd expect more of them, honestly. Yeah. But they're just, they got the special sauce, man. Yeah. And how fast the turnaround was to have this season, I also feel bad for everyone working on the show that it's got to be very difficult. Yeah, right, because we started watching The Pit about this time. It was like probably February of last year, right?

Yeah, because it was just when the show, when page 7 was going through its changes. So, yeah, it's just, and so they had, and then they had the run of the first season. And then, yeah, they must have just had to turn around and get right back into it. Yeah, I'm absolutely loving the Pit. I did learn somebody sent me a message that Noah Wiley's wife is probably controlling because he's a former dirty dog. Oh, former dirty dog. Yeah, so I may have, you know, slightly lost my boner for Noah Wiley, but that's fine. Oh, that's fine.

She came in and laid down the hatchet, eh? That's the rumor. Also, because everything, because we can't have nice things, there's also like a quote of him being like talking about how much he admires like IDF hospitals and stuff. And so I was like, no, no. I literally saw it. And I, like, threw my phone across the room. I was like, I don't want to know what the rest of this quote is. Don't. Just don't.

Just don't tell me. So, yeah. So there's shit in the water with my boner for him. But that's fine. I can still enjoy. Oh, no. You got a boner covered in shit. I got a boner covered in shit.

You got to clean yourself first. You know that. You got to clean it. It's going to get in the hole. Yeah. Yeah. But I, but, you know, I still, I like, talk about sad, scared, and horny, you know, I think that's the experience of watching the pit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, very, very rarely horny. Well, formerly horny for Dr. Robbie. Firmally, fornily, formerly horny. Formerly horny. Put that on my tube story. Formerly horny. Next to my scared, sad, and horny.

And it would just seem like, well, then why did Jackie stop trying? You know? I'm like, I'm doing what I can, all right? I'm so curious. Are you going, do you have any plans of watching a night of the seven kingdoms? Are you, this is the new Game of Thrones. Oh. Like, but it's not, though.

I'm sure my husband will watch it. The thing is, MJ, which is so funny, I had such juxtaposing conversations about this show yesterday because I watched the first episode of it. And for those that don't know, it is. like a century before the events of Game of Thrones, this follows this big, tall boy, and his name is Sir Dunk, and he's Sir Dunk in the tall,

and he's really big, and he's a hedge knight. And the hedge knights are like the emo boy nights of the knights. Like they're the ones that are like, I'm just a farm boy and I'm really strong, and I want to go from town to town and take care of people. They are the hymboes of the knights Or at least now they are In my brain can't take that away from me

They are now the hymbo of the knights And he's going it is like a collection of short stories That George R. Martin had written about this So it's like about the tales of this hedge knight Okay And it is supposed to be like openly like not as Intense as the word world of Game of Thrones.

It is more of a, like, a beautiful, like, story of a night. And I watched the first episode. I really liked it a lot. And it was funny because I was having a conversation with someone yesterday that was like, there's no fucking dragons in it. What are they getting cheap or some shit? I don't want to watch this. Who gives a?

It's just some big guy just being a big guy. And I was like, yeah. It's a big guy being a big guy. And I really liked it. I liked the big guy being the big guy. He makes a little friend, and then the friend is now his squire, and who's just like a little kid who's an orphan, and he wants to take care of him. And it's the first episode was just genuinely sweet. Yeah, yeah, it's a little like kind of Mandalorian energy, you know, of like, I found a baby.

Yes. It is very much that, where it's just this, like, big guy. And it's like, is he going to be a night? Oh, he wants to be a night. Oh, he's got a sword. you know, and I, he's also, I can say this because he is, I believe, 25 or 26. Very easy on the eyes, big old hymbo. Sir Dunk.

Yes. And Sir Dunk, I guess Jeff was telling me in the novellas that he's more, he was supposed to be more of like a 14 or 15 year old, but they couldn't find someone that huge that also was a 14 or 15 year old because he's a bit of an anomaly. So they did age him up a little bit. He's Irish, so that's fun. Yeah, I won't, the actor is Irish. I won't be watching this, but I will ask my husband about this.

This is the type of material that puts me directly to sleep. But he's a rugby player, MJ. That's nice. I'll watch interviews with this man. I don't want to enter the world. You should watch interviews with the man, though, because he's a big-o, big-o, and he is always sad. Yeah. MJ, he's sad, and he wants to be good.

I love a big sad Irishman. I love a big sad boy. Yeah, no, that's good. I know that George R. Martin and J. R.R. Tolkien are two different people. Very, very different, yeah. But I just need to point out that I was a solo parent all weekend last weekend because my husband bought himself tickets to all three Lord of the Rings. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Showings for the 25th, whatever.

I didn't even know what the occasion was. The 25th whatever. Can't even, couldn't even care for a moment. All you care about is that all I care about is that I was a single parent all weekend while you had to go watch your fucking shows. No, I was encouraged him and I was like, go have fun. I'm glad you're doing something for yourself. Of course, I know.

But then by Sunday night, I was like, okay, I'm tapping out. Yes. But I was like, you know, was everyone cheering in the movie theater? Was everybody, were you like making a bunch of nerd friends? And he said that most people were there by themselves not talking to anyone, which does track. Good, good, good, good, good. I think that I'm sure, especially that's such a New York experience. Because in L.A. theater, I'm sure everyone was just like, ants.

Oh, it's like, it is L.A. about the ants, I think. There was an occasional screaming at the screen. Got to. Somebody was yelling about ants. Was it something that Gideon had posted? I feel like Gideon or did he just post because they're not, what was it that they're like, he's like, they're not, I want to call them tree shifters.

I know they're not tree shifters. What is, what was his thing? Tree beards. This is the problem. I've been married to the man for almost 10 years and I don't remember. George, it was that Tolkien had seen. referred to them as talking trees. And then someone in the audience corrected Tolkien on the fact that they're not talking trees,

that they are in fact something else. Yes. That's what it was. Yes, that's exactly. Yeah, there was some like nerd corrections. It was a nerd correction. Towards the person that created the entity. They were correcting Peter Jackson, to be fair.

Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, did I confuse my big old white nudes? in fun shit. I'm sorry. I didn't mean Peter. It was Peter Jackson. It was Peter Jackson. It would be difficult, though.

If you wanted to dig up Tolkeen, you'd be like, what were the trees? What did they do? And why did young Jackie want to have sex with it? But it's okay. That was an early. You know tree beard was my type. And bitches rise off. I wanted an old.

man with roots. That's what I was looking for. I'm not talking about that he needed to get his hair done because those leaves weren't looking good. He's just that the fact that there's something about, not that I wanted to have sex

with the rock people and never-ending story too, but there's something about something being as old as the earth that like you shouldn't want to bang that but this is part of the, I mean, part of the many reasons why I'm a monster fucker. I think that it's fun and I don't think about the age gap.

between I'm a human in your centuries years old. But also, don't you bring a wisdom? And shouldn't at that point, shouldn't they be emotionally communicative? You have centuries to get good at it. And I know if you're tree beard, you spend a lot of that time, not sent it, you know? So I get that maybe you're not working on it as much.

Right. But I guess I'm more thinking in the world of like a vampire. Am I just monologuing about how I like to have sex with monsters? Yeah, maybe I'm getting too used to Jackie's book club, all right? No, I think about the age gap problem in this type of fantasy a lot. Like in K-pop demon hunters, it's like, Gino is like 200 years old. Yeah. I don't like that age gap.

But think about the spark of being with someone that remembers and cares about a present reality. That is something that brings you back to life, though, because I feel like at some point, you lose the plot of living. Right? So I feel like that is like it's more so an emotional connection to to life that they didn't have. That I feel like that is, it actually puts them more in the same place because it is a person that is centuries old being like, I'd like to, though, remember what it is to live my every day. And they find that again in somebody else. Now, you don't want to put that all on a human. You know, it's a lot.

That's why shift me. Turn me into something else. Right. Make me other. Right. Right. And that's why Buffy is so, you know, messed up emotionally. She can't shoulder all of this.

She's in love with several vampires. Buffy's so good. And she can't even, like, handle it. She can't even take the fact that it's like not only, it's like, no, I only loved a vampire. No, bitch. Sorry. You like vampires. You got a type.

Sorry. You got a type girl. You got it. Although, as if Spike is anything like Angel. I know. They're very different. Yeah. I love him.

I love him. Even though, man, Jeff and I went to this. We went over the weekend. Speaking of love, there is a museum. There's a, in L.A., there's a museum of love. And there is a subsidiary of the Museum of Love called Crimes of Path. called Crimes of Passion. Uh-oh.

And all I knew about this museum was that it was an interactive museum. And so I was like, Jeff, we're taking a chance. Let's go find out about crimes of passion. And we went, and I will throw it out there. Anyone in L.A., it's really, like, for, like, a $30 ticket in L.A., it's hard to find something that you're entertained for hours at for that amount of money. You know what I mean? and we had so much fun and it was a bunch of like,

it was a bunch of like, you're both in a root. It's like we both were tied together at one point. Like we were handcuffed together. Both like my left hand and his right hand were handcuffed. And then our other hands were behind our backs, handcuffed to each other behind our backs. And we had to do a bunch of like timed activities that we had to like, but it was based on for instance, like the Lorena,

Bobbitt story, which for those of you that don't remember, she was so done with her shit husband that she went and she cut his penis off and then she drove away and she threw the penis out the window of her car. There's a great, if you want to re-look, revisit this story, there's a great you're wrong about about Lorraine Bobbett because, yeah, the way it was covered in the 90s was like, this bitch, she crazy. No, he was horrible. Yeah, he was horrible.

He was a nightmare. And so, yeah, throw that dick out the window. But one of the things we had to do while we were handcuffed to each other with only one hand, and the other hand handcuffed binder backs is we had to take these big, like not rubber, but like liquid-filled things and throw them through a window. But like a window that was just cracked. So we had to get it through. Practice throwing the penis out the window. We had to practice throwing the penis.

we got the penis out the window. And it was just so, it's like there's an interrogation room where it was like me with the light. But I, I wonder if everybody's having as much fun with it as Jeff and I, like, we had, we were like, as we were like interrogating each other in the room. It was just so, we had so much fun. And it was so, there were things missing in the museum. But everyone that worked there, you could tell it was one of those like Muppets type deal where it's like they're working the two different museums at once. There's like five employees. They're trying to help all of these people. And everybody is just like, we're doing this for the love of the game. And it's like, I love a place that is doing it for the love of the game.

Yeah, that's fun. I mean, crimes of fashion is tricky because I'm like most of those are not fun crimes, you know, but they managed to make Lorraine Poppet fun. fun, good for them. They really did because one of the stories, like they go through different stories. And also, you can shock each other in electric chair to see how much shock the other one. Jesus Christ. We laughed and we laughed. It was just, I feel like those kind of interactive museums, I feel that, I mean, obviously, you wouldn't bring kids to crimes of passion because there's not.

for kids there. I believe it's also 18 and up. But those interactive museums, like you never quite know, have you ever been to one that was like, is this a museum or is, are we in somebody's backyard with like a bunch of tongues? You know what I mean? I don't remember being really excited to go, it's funny that L.A. has the Museum of Love because New York has the Museum of Sex. And I know I've been there. Oh, we also, yeah. I think it's, I believe it's, they're all the same. Oh, I think they might be the same owners, I believe. My kids saw an ad for the Museum of of sex on the bus recently and one of them was like, Museum of Sexism. I'll bet that's about sexism. And it was very, very sweet.

Sexism. Oh, mom. That's a museum about sexism. That's the cutest thing, Dean here. And you're just like, no, we've got actually, it's a lot more fun than that, which is good. You know, I'm glad that it's not. Honestly, do you guys want to go to a museum about sexism? Yeah, that's every museum. I guess that would be called like a women's rights museum. Like, I feel like I guess. Yeah, we could work on the name. The name, the branding. I'm like, I'm looking through page six right now to see if there's been any updates. Oh, you're going to talk about Megan Traynor?

Oh, well, we could talk about Megan Traynor, I guess. Can I just even just even slightly throw out there? I couldn't give a fuck about Megan Traynor, right? And I think that-a-Mu-chi, I'm there. It's in your head. Sorry. Don't you dare do this to me. And Megan Traynor had a,

They had their family, had their third child via surrogate. And the internet, no matter what you feel about Megatrader, man, the internet is being real mean about the use of surrogacy. Yeah. And that's just like not okay. That's not okay. Yeah. Don't do that too. And the fact that she is now being like, we talked to their doctors and it was the healthiest thing for her family.

And this is like, it's like, she shouldn't have to. fucking say goddamn thing. Right. She should not have to explain it. Right. Of course, so the narrative that's now around Megan Trainor

is because she got very ozempic-y. She lost, and she, not only did she lose a lot of weight, but she spoke about ozempic and was like, because I,

it's, I don't love the, like, endless speculation about how people lose weight. People should not comment about it. It's just certainly so annoying. Yeah, you don't need to figure out what drug people are on,

who gives a fuck. But she was like, it's none of, your business. How about they're not putting it in your body? How about that? Like, it's just, you're just, you're just upset about it. And I think that what, I think that there is particularly strong feelings about this with Megan Traynor because she sold her, she developed her image as I love my curvy body. And then she started changing the lyrics of her songs to not be about that anymore and to instead be about how she feels hot and skinny now. And so I understand

and why people are upset about that. I've never liked Megan Trainor, so I don't have anything to lose. But I think a lot of people liked her because she was like body positive. And then as Jackie has pointed out, body positivity, dead. Dead and gone.

No, yeah. No, man, they beat a death. Yeah, wow. And, you know, and Holden predicted this as well. Holden was like, we need evil, skinny, Lizzo. and that is where we're at. You know, that, it happens. And she's raining, yes.

Evil skinnyism. Holden predicted this timeline and we're in it. And so I totally understand why people were like, Megan Trainor can take whatever weight loss drugs that she wants and she can do whatever she wants with her body. But it is annoying and frustrating to see her having built her audience on being body positive and then being like, actually, never mind, it's better to be skinny. And I think that is a completely legitimate criticism.

But then what happened was that she had a baby via surrogacy. And everyone was like, you had a baby via surrogacy because you didn't want to gain weight again. Because you didn't want to gain weight. You didn't want to gain weight, which also like, we all know, hey guys, I think that that's. And even if that were the case, what does it fucking matter? I think that this is a, it's none of our business situation. We all know that having children is very, like, destructive. to your body regardless.

And it's like there's also many, many reasons of which to have a child via surrogacy. And it's not just that. But even if that were, well, she also probably doesn't want to take a lot of time off from, I don't know, what she does, touring or just making people upset on the carpets because people think that she's too thin. I don't know if that's what her full-time job is. It's so complicated. I think about this a lot because, like, I, you know, of course, this is like, it's none of our business. And if surrogacy is a, you know, something where people are appropriately compensated and where they're entering into it, like the pregnant person is appropriately compensated and they're entering into it, like as a free and willing participant, then I do think this is like, okay, this is, this is, this is work. This is an employment, you know, or unless she had gone inside of a pregnant woman and took it out herself.

Like if she had done that, like I do feel like it's like, well, then you get it. Like you, then you get the baby. So if she had done it via that, too, I also would be like, respect. You went and you got that baby. Yeah, yeah. But like I saw a post that was like, you know, pregnancy is so dangerous and so difficult. And it's none of our place to judge her for using a surrogate. And then I'm like, well, pregnancy is dangerous and difficult.

then in this case, if we're talking about surrogacy, then also somebody did the dangerous and difficult thing. It did the dangerous thing. And hopefully they were compensated for. That's the thing. So I know it is, but I do think that it's very shitty. I think people are being real weird about it. And people are just generally been real weird about Megan Traynor.

And I say that as somebody who is publicly annoyed with Megynrainer pretty frequently. So I get being annoyed by her. But I feel like when it comes to people's like family planning, unfortunately, whether or not you think she's annoying, we just have to step the fuck out of it. It's just none of our business. And if you want to develop your views on surrogacy, then, like, read it. There's a great book called Full Surrogacy Now.

You could read all sorts of different things about the idea of this and the principle. And it's, yeah, it's a big philosophical question. This is a really, it's, this is a triggering topic for people for many understandable reasons. But people are being so weird to Megan Trader. So weird. Yeah, it really is. You know, it's just one of those. I feel like they should be more weird towards her.

about the fact that she let her toddlers give the child her middle name. At least the kids chose Moon. Yeah, that's good. You know, it could have been, who knows, Tonka Truck. Like, what if her middle name was Tonka Truck? Yeah. And that is a scary, that's a scary choice. Yeah, but, you know, when they grow up, will she do an inappropriate dance at their wedding?

Because yes, I'm still thinking about it. I'm still thinking about the Beckham's. You know what's crazy, MJ is I have talked more about this. Beckham's story, two people that do not give a fuck about celebrity gossip, then I have any other story in quite some time. Every, I feel like people were cartoonishly sticking their head in dirt like this week at the studio being like, you're about Brooklyn Beckham? And I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah.

And then I just keep having individual conversations talking about how it's such a wonderful story because all of them technically are evil. So we can be like, ha, ha, ha. And then she's ha ha ha. And then all of the pictures of posh spice dancing, which I don't know. I imagine most of them are are all like Photoshopped or AI. There's so many stupid versions of posh spice dancing on Brooklyn Beckham that really delight me. Oh, well, and there's, I'm trying to find the quote, but there was some quote that Brooklyn said that was like,

no one has a copy of the video. Or like that it was like if the video were to get in the wrong hands. Like they're talking about it like it's like the nuclear codes, you know? I know. The video. The video must be really, really bad. Juicy. And I have really enjoyed.

And we spent less time on the inappropriate dance at the wedding on yesterday's show and we were talking about it with Amber because we talked about this as it happened. I remember, I don't remember if it was a story or a blind. But like, this was a, this, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the time. ly dance. Oh, yeah, we talked about it back then. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about it when it happened.

And so I was like, well, we don't need to revisit that. But a lot of people just learning that part now. So there's been just infinitely good Instagram rules speculating about what the dance was, what the song was, what Victoria Beckham did. What did she do? And the fact that he's like, no one can see. ever see the tapes. God, we want it so bad.

This is the kind of like internet sleuthing that I enjoy, you know? This is like, come on, guys, somebody out there can get this tape, right? Somebody's going to find it. It's so, the quotes about the tape. The insiders told the outlet that Victoria was allegedly right up against Brooklyn. Right up against him. The behavior was, quote, unquote, more fitting for romantic partners than a mother and son. And honestly, that is, like, I feel bad for Brooklyn Beckham.

That's awful. Like, that is a, like, I think that I might be team Brooklyn if I have to pick a side here. I want to get the video of Holden dancing with his mother at his wedding when they were like 20 feet apart from each other. And that they shortened the already short song, God only knows, so that they could have it be done as fast as possible. But just imagine Victoria Beckham just, like, squirrined up in there and just like, humph! on holding as Godolino's play. I need to know what the song was. The fact that Mark Anthony was there doing the song.

Doing the song. Every little detail just keeps on giving. Talk about sparking joy. Honestly, it sparks as much joy, I guess, as this picture of William Shatner eating a bowl of cereal. Did this come across your feed yesterday? No. Oh, my God.

There is a picture of William Shatner. William Shatner driving a car, I believe in L.A. And he is eating a bowl of cereal as he's, I don't know, stopped at a light, like actively all two hands. Very Michael Rappaport. It's very Michael Rappaport coded. And it is so, it's just like, how does he drive? Where do you put the bowl? Are you putting the bowl?

Also, you're like 90. How old is he? He's 94 years old. you're driving and both of your hands are busy. Get off the freeway. Stop driving. Yeah, no, you got to pay someone to drive you around if you can eat the cereal. 94 and you're eating a bowl of cereal while you drive?

You're going to kill everybody on the road. Yeah, you will kill everybody on the road. I have eaten sushi on the subway, which I'm not proud of. Whoa, sushi on the subway. And like bodega sushi on the subway. Again, I'm not proud. But it has happened, you know. But at least I'm not driving, I'm not operating the train, you know.

No, no. And thank goodness, because I don't know. I think maybe you'd be good as a train conductor, MJ, but I think that you'd be so involved in the doing the chew-choo whenever people wanted you to do the chew-choo that I feel like you'd get caught up in the magic of that. Well, you know, there's like, there's that one G-train conductor who's just like a really fun guy. And whenever you get him.

Oh, I remember him. Oh, I lived off the G. Everybody loves that guy. and you're like, it's this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except then you see the people on the train that hate his happiness. Yeah, that are just like, and he's just like, well, welcome to the, we all the G-Train, everybody got to get on board.

We know it's the G-Train, everybody's having to go to it. And then people are just sitting there just like, mean, mugging. Because how dare anyone have a smile in this hour city of frown? Yeah, yeah. It is funny. I was talking to someone that I just met. over the weekend and talking later on that I was from New York. And I was like, you know, it's actually good. The more years you get out of New York, it takes more minutes to say that you're from New York

from the beginning of the conversation as time goes on because usually Jeff likes to make the joke of, you know, you know someone's from New York. You'll find out at least within 60 seconds of talking to them and not because of an accent, but just because you're originally, you're always like, well, I'm from New York. And you always say I'm from New York just so that everyone knows that there was a time when the light was dead in your eyes. And you want everyone to acknowledge that you did have that time period. Well, that's also Michael Rappaport. He keeps every time he acts like an asshole, he says it's because he's from New York. And again, I'm like, no, you, it's supposed to be the opposite. You're like, you're supposed to be a better person for being from New York. Yes. And now that,

not to jude over to Lisa Barlow, but I do, you know, Lisa Barlow is saying this. And now the reunion is starting to come out from the season. And I love that Andy Cohen is like, so you're saying she's like, yes, I'm a New Yorker. I'm always a New Yorker. And that's why I am the way that I am. It's like, no, you're just a bitch. And you can just acknowledge that you're just a bitch. Because the other women up here also bitches, they're not from New York.

Yeah. I mean, I love that. in the reunion, can I just say, that Angie tried to flip calling Meredith Marks a trampoline with a face. She tried to flip it as if that was a positive thing. She was like, that's a nice thing to say to somebody that your face is like a trap. Because it's so, because you've done so much, because it just immediately, Andy Cohen's like, you're not going to pretend like you were saying that. I love.

And then the other, you were saying that a nice way. The other big Lisa Barlow story is her being like, with Ben Affleck. Yeah, being like, oh, I couldn't go to this event because I was at an event with Ben Affleck. And then Ben Affleck did Jay Lowe. I don't know her. I don't know her. And it's so funny because MJ, so this happened in the season that she wasn't at,

Lisa Barlow wasn't at an event. And it's because she was like, I'm at an event with Ben and Blake. And she said, I'm not going to name names, but I'm with Ben and Blake. But I'm with Ben and Blake. And that's what she said. And then everyone wanted to see. And so at the reunion, she shows a picture of her and Ben Affleck. That picture must have been taken 15 years ago.

Like, she has a completely different face. Like there's, and he looks so much younger. She's like, see, it's me and Ben. And everybody's like, that's not a recent picture. And it's so good. When Ben was asked about this, he said, I don't want to get anybody in trouble. He told Access Hollywood, I don't know what this is. An event in Salt Lake City?

I don't know. what this is. He doesn't even know what real housewives is. I haven't been to Utah and I don't know, eight, nine, ten years. It doesn't look familiar to me and I don't remember anything and I don't want to embarrass her. What a sweetie. I, MJ, I'm in love with Ben Affleck. Me too, man. I, it really, I know that Amber was saying that the full back tattoo just doesn't do it for her. Well, yeah, no, I can't remember as I was Amber if that was Carol, but I know I've been talking about my love of Ben Affleck all week, all right? Yeah, no, talk about Bonar Killer. As soon as he takes his shirt off, it's going back down. Oh, keep the shirt on. Yeah, you got to keep the shirt on. Honestly, keep the don't

on your own. Keep the cigarette in the other hand. We'll figure it out. Just keep talking about like imperialism though. Like when you talk about like intelligent things, that's when the boner goes up. Also speak to me in Spanish. I'm down with that too. You know, it's like, you could talk to me about whatever in Spanish. Yeah, that's great. Speak in Spanish. He, and he keeps going. He goes, I'd meet a lot of people. I say hi to a lot of people. I don't want to be a jerk. Stop it. He's so cute.

He said, I don't, you don't remember everyone you meet. So sweet that she was so obviously lying and name-dropping and he was like. She was lying and name-dropping. And he's trying. He doesn't even know who she is and he's trying. And he's like, oh, maybe she was telling the truth. Extremely lovely behavior from Men Affleck. He just, it's just like, I think that he needs like, he needs a Jennifer Garner.

Like that's, he needed someone that is going to keep chickens. He needed something. And he fucked that up because, you know, we see this story about J-Lo at the Golden Globes. And it was like the internet, of course, because she did the red carpet thing. You know, they do the... This was crazy. This story was... This was annoying against J-Lo.

This was totally insane. Because this, yeah, and even Cole Wallister was like, everyone's going insane. Everyone thinks, everyone on the internet thinks they understand everything. And they don't. And they don't. And so. like, yeah, they're talking about glam bot, by the way. Glam bot, you, I think a lot of us know it's that, like, the spinning camera that, like, gets that, like, they, they turn around, they do a pose and it does it in slow motion and they have that, like, it's that, it's that thing.

It's that's the glam bot, right? And so they, so she did that. She, like, posed for the glam bot, like, perfectly, by the way. She comes up and he's like, he's like, okay, he's like, you know to turn around. She literally turns around, does the move, and he's like, okay, great. And then you can tell they have a million people to do this with. They have to keep it moving. And he even said, like Cole, Cole Walzer, who is like the king of the glam bot was like, it was at the end.

Like the everyone was going inside. The Golden Globes were about to start. You don't even, like the internet doesn't even know it because everyone said J-Lo was so rude. She didn't even speak to him. She just walked up there and she just did the thing and then just moved on. And he literally is like, we had to get like, no. we had to get her inside. Yeah, he was like,

in fact she was actually very professional. So professional and also just so skilled. Like the fact that you could just be like, I'm going to pose with complete perfection in 10 seconds, get a perfect fucking picture by the glenbath. Not even 10 seconds, like one and a half seconds, you know? And so she did it. But yeah, then there was this huge reaction like,

J-Lo's such a bitch. And then, yeah. And then Wallister was like, everybody slow down and relax. She did fine. I'm fine. She did great. I had no other expectations of her. So, yeah, we all love a J-Lo's-a-Bitch narrative,

but only when it's justified, you guys. Only when it's justified. I love it when it's justified. Please give it to me when it's justified. You know, that makes the like, every time you see the kind of, God, that clip of Jennifer Lopez walking through her old Bronx neighborhood and she walks up to the house she used to live in

and the guy comes out and she's like, I used to live there. And he's like, who are you? Jennifer. He's like, who are you? Jennifer Lopez. And he just says nothing and she just keeps you walking. And it was like you could tell that she was just like trying to be at, oh, God, because it makes

those moments worth it. Yes. You know? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm all for calling celebrities bitches if they have been demonstrably a bitch. But she was just being a professional. She was just doing her thing and she didn't need to do it twice.

Yeah. Can we throw a guvah on her? Yeah. It's just that J-Lo and Ben just shouldn't be together. They just not made, they can't be made for each other. Yeah, unfortunately, I think that that is true. Yeah, Ben seems to really be thriving. And we love a sad boy.

This is the problem, MJ. Yeah, but look at how much better he's doing now that he's out of that relationship. I'll never watch the rip, though. Are you not going to watch the rip? Why would you, it's just, right now, I know that. to the, also it sells. And I know that like action movie sell. It's just, couldn't you guys be like, I don't know.

We're two social workers that are going to go kill. You know, it's like, can you be? Yeah. That's the thing I like both of these boys so much. And I do think that they're very smart. But then, yeah, I saw it's just a cop drama. I just don't really want to watch. I don't have any desire to watch cops being caps.

Yeah. I know I'm crazy. Yeah. But like I have no desire to watch it. Is it about cops abolishing the police from the. inside, if not, wake me up when it's over. Maybe, wake me up inside. Yeah, and you can't wake up because we're all asleep during the ramp.

But speaking of wake me up when September ends, how about Green Day doing the Super Bowl? Oh, that is so, I, you know, I feel. It's an interesting choice. It's an interesting choice. Quite. I am trying to not in my brain, which was my immediate joke of like, oh, they were like, how do we get the antithesis of bad bunny on the stage? How do we get someone as white as the day is long?

Like, we need what? Like, I feel like, and I hate to immediately think that that is part of it. But that is, that, I mean, if that was the calculation, that makes no sense, right? Because whoever bad bunny is going to piss off, Green Day will also piss off. Will they? I mean, I'm not. Why? MJ, they don't have the teeth.

they, uh, maybe I'm wrong. I mean, I personally don't think that American idiot is like, I don't, I don't think that they're, he's not like Pete Seagre.

No, he's not, yeah. He's also, it's like, it's not like, it's not like, it's not a,

right, but I, yeah, he's neither Blake Shelton nor Pete Seeger, but a lot of people were like, I mean, I forgot that in 2016 was at the VMAs, they did, you know,

Billy Joe will go hard. And at the, I think it was the 2016 VMAs, he was, he chanted, no Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA. You are right. You are right. You are right. You know, so that's, that's pretty

cool. I had completely forgotten that. And so, you know, and he is political. Again, I don't like, like, American Idiot is not my favorite Green Day album. Like, I, but I like that he's... That's the problem. I like the sentiment, but it's just like, it even might have, the one big, man. And I'm just like, and I listen to that album all the, and like, the boulevard of Broken Dreams that let's do over and over. I, I, I, and you know, obviously, you know, to dukey. I'm not talking about a OG. I'm a Nimrod person. But I mean, all of it. I was, I'm saying that like, I even like them when people are like, you still like Green Day. And I'm saying this as someone that likes Green Day.

I do. It is, I don't, but they're like opening for Bad Bunny. Well, I think that this is why I'm confused, okay, because you go online and a bunch of really idealistic people are online. And I love that idealism, but everyone online thinks Trump's about to die. And I unfortunately think that that's ideal. Manifest, guys, if we could just light some candles, if we could just. But also everyone online is like, there's this narrative emerging because it's Green Day and Bad Bunny. Like, this Super Bowl is being so subversive. And I'm like, that can't be.

See, I also don't think it's that. Like, I don't. If it's that, then like, okay. But I feel like if anything, it's more people that are like, oh, man, I didn't even know they were political. Like, I feel like there's also that. Right. Is it just millennial nostalgia without reality? realizing that Billy Joe actually does have very good politics and is not afraid to use them, you know?

Like, that's the head scratcher for me because I'm like, I refuse to ascribe like the Super Bowl booking committee as like part of the resistance. I just think that's too idealistic. But it's also, this is a part of the pregame lineup because it's also Charlie Puth. I never mind. I'm redirecting all of my, we need it white. I'm sorry. That's why Charlie Puth is there. So don't worry, that's where all that's going to go.

And, but it's also with Brandy Carlisle and Coco Jones. Oh, Brandy Carlisle fun. What, remind me about Charlie Puth? Oh, the Puthanators, Puth. He makes every, I saw Charlie Puth. I always bring up Charlie Puth because when I was out on a double date with Sina and his wife, we were at this, like, cool restaurant, and it had a live jazz band playing while we were eating. And Charlie Puth was a.

at the restaurant and he was faced and he apparently knew the owner of the restaurant so he goes up there and he goes up there and like sucking himself and he's like I'm gonna perform for you guys and I will say

he did end up putting all like he's playing the piano he's playing like he sang all of his hit songs that he wrote for like I think a lot of them are for other people but he also sang some of them like honestly I didn't know who Charlie Puth was

and then I was like, oh, that's Charlie Puth while this was happening. But then Sina was telling me all of this other stuff about how so many people, I forget who in particular who fucking hates Charlie Puth and there's some TikTok like person that like goes after Charlie Poof

all the time and makes fun of him. And he is just it like we made it's like, you're only one call away I like that song What? We don't like that song?

I'm just saying But it was funny Because Cosmo and I were Of course, as he's playing this Right in front us We're like, yeah, we're slipping Like trying to make jokes About how much we wanted him

But I mean he did put on Technically he was probably blacked out And he put on a great performance. That's Charlie Pookewool. Okay, well I like that song So I'm team Puth I'm a poothinator. That's based on that one song.

And it was the American Music Awards, by the way, 2016 AMAs that Billy Joe screamed, no Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA. And yeah, I think, I mean, listen, I think it's great that Bad Bunny is performing. I think it's great that Green Day is performing. And I think that. And Charlie, are you, I mean, obviously,

it's up there with you and Holden and Benson Boone. I love. I learned today that I learned two minutes ago that I love Charlie Puth. But I think I think that this is just the Super Bowl trying to enlist as many people as possible to watch the show. I think that's, I just think there's a, yeah, there's this idea that's like, oh, it's the, it's a resistance move. And I think that really it's like millennials like Green Day. People like Green Day. People who like Green Day will watch.

People who like Bad Bunny will watch a lot of millennials who love Bad Bunny and love Green Day. And love Green Day. And Zoomers and everything. So I think that it's just about the money guys, unfortunately. But that said, you know what, Billy Joe, this is your moment to shine. And, you know, Charlie Puth, I trust you. I trust you with my life. Oh, he's going to do it.

Maybe he'll be schnappard again. Maybe that's what he needs. I don't know. I like that song. You don't like that song? You know, I think it's just something about the image of him hammered and playing that song. It does make me like the song. more.

Yeah. But it is, I don't know. I guess I also used to like these like, like, hundred three for a moment, going between, son of London, now just dreaming. That is,

no, that's, 15, that's still time for you. What's the exact? I don't know. We did. They sing Kryptonite, right?

Three doors down? Is that three doors down? What do you, okay. The problem is you can't Google kryptonite because I'm talking about the song. Yes, kryptonite is three doors down. Are you thinking, three doors down is from a totally different era?

Yeah, it is, but also that song. Lifehouse? Lifehouse. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yes.

Oh, my God. Thank you. Wow. That's a name I haven't heard. Lifehouse and also, oh my God. Yeah, it is the song also 15 by Three Doors Down. So. Oh, that's good.

Lifehouse. Wow. Really have not thought about Lifehouse. Maybe you should be getting, why aren't they opening for the Super Bowl? Bring back Lifehouse. Nobody's, nobody's screaming for Lifehouse, I guess. Well, I'm going to go listen to Lifehouse. Am I going to go have a weird afternoon?

We got to get out of here. I got to go poo. I got to go poo. Oh, God. Oh, I'm sorry. If you had to pooh, we could have, we could have, you know, stop the show for a minute, giving you a quick 10. No, I think that that song is one of those songs, like, you know, it's a blue balls one

where if you got, if you, if you have Superman in your head, you have to listen to it. Otherwise, you're going to feel weird the rest of the day. So that's what I'm going to do. And you're going to go crazy. Yeah. And I don't want to. And, but maybe you do. And anyway, if you did, get down to three doors down.

because that's what What just happened? Did I just get poothed? Did I just get drunk all of a sudden? I don't know. Maybe just thinking about how much tequila he was ingesting. We were also watching him drink

out of a tequila bottle while he was doing this. Anyway, it's very funny. It is the end of the show. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us. And thank you so much, MJ. And also I'm so excited to watch more traders for next week. We'll be back with you with the pit. And I am excited for more.

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