Page 7 - Second Helpings - She's Already Crying

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

This week on Second Helpings, MJ and Jackie discuss Six Flags is shuttin' down multiple parks, MJ took the kids to "Pop Mart" and got seduced into a makeup store to then have half their face tightened and upon saying they weren't interested in the product, the salesman just said GOODBYE and MJ had to spend the rest of the day looking half very concerned. Then it's onto Traitors Talk with lots of SPOILERS abound because the winner was announced! It turns out the BAFTAs did edit out other things, including homophobic slurs to Alan Cumming. so...wtf BAFTAs? "Scream 7" has been an expensive embarrassment from the start, and Anna Camp made a post then instantly went 'oops i reposted what someone ELSE said' but there's also a  new "Scary Movie" and Jackie's hopin' it comes out and shows it still has it! Connor Storrie was on SNL and did a good job!, Harrison Ford got an award for bein' old and alive, Jackie's all caught up on "House of Villains", and she's throwin' herself into this new season! PLUS SO MUCH MOOOORE!!! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And it will, even though, man, the amusement parks, the amusement parks are being sold. That's not what we're talking about today. But I did randomly see that Six Flags is getting rid of like seven of their theme parks. And I was like, I hope it's not the weird one that nobody goes to in SoCal because I love that one. Why? We're losing everything. We're losing the ability to make movies. We're losing the ability to own homes.

and we're losing the ability to go on roller coasters, really. Give me my roller coasters. A two roller coasters. I don't need that. Good Lord. I've always wanted to go on that roller coaster in the step-by-step theme song. And, you know, now what? It probably doesn't exist anymore.

Now you might never. Yeah. But that, but it does exist. Still? So you could have, but not at any, maybe not anymore. Well, I got to run. I didn't think that I was urgent that I changed. check things off of my long-standing

to-do list like that. Wait a second. What you're saying is that you have to come here to go to the janky six flags with us that's in SoCal? I listen, I want to come to Southern California and go to so many amusement parks. You know that I've always wanted

to do a Disney trip curated by Ed Larson for my children. That's like my biggest dream. Yeah, but that's Disney. I'm not talking Disney. I'm talking six flags. I'm talking to real parks. I don't. I know. You got to go on the the roller coaster that blairs, what is it, Stanstorm at you? And it's blasting in your ears as you're just doing loop after loop and you're just like,

yeah, this is what living is about. Yeah, you know, I've told you about my, one of my core memories is being on a ride. It wasn't even a coaster. It was just a Dubuque County Fair ride in the late 90s. while Live and Lovita Loka was playing. And I had a real, like, existential moment of like, yeah, I am live in La Vita Loka. You are, and I'm proud of you. And when Ricky Martin appeared in the Bad Bunny halftime show, Gideon was like,

who's that? And I was like, get out of this house. Whoa. Okay, Gen X, get out of here. Yeah, exactly. I was like, that's called Daddy Ricky Martin. Most Gen X also knows Ricky Martin. So I apologize, Gen X.

That's not on you. That's on Gideon. Yeah, he was a pop music. hating Metalhead Gen X, who apparently never memorized Ricky Martin's face. And admittedly, Ricky Martin is much older now, but he looks mostly the same. He looks great. He looks great. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's like maybe if you look closer, you would see all the amount of work that he's had done. I'm not looking that close. No, he doesn't look too worky. That's good. Yeah. for him.

Yeah. Because it really, I mean, it seems very easy to get into the gym carry route of things. So you got to really watch out for that. I mean, I don't know. I went to someone yesterday and I'm now, I've been downgraded to you only need baby Botox. And I said, I feel like the phrase baby Botox probably shouldn't exist either. Yeah, I don't like that. Did I tell you about I went to, I took my children as a complicated super,

series of rewards and incentives. After many successful swim lessons, I agreed to take them to Pop Mart, which is, you know, Pop Mart is where you get Labubo's. Did you get them the crying baby Labubu? I've showed you my crying little girl Labu, right, that Henry got me for Christmas. Is it a skull panda? No, it's a literal crying baby Labuobu. Yeah, it's a little girl Laboooo with big, fake plastic tears.

I like, this nothing makes me feel older than Pop Mart. I go in there and I'm just like, what the fuck is this? Like, I don't understand. And I don't have to. It's not for me. But there is a pot mart in the Oculus, which is like the big stupid mall down by the World Trade Center slash Freedom Tower or whatever. It's like instead of having the two towers now, we have the Freedom Tower and a big mall. You've got that Freedom Tower.

We've got the Freedom Tower and we got a big mall. And so I said, children, we're going to the Oculus. and the Oculus is, I've never spent much time there. It's a real weird mall. It's like, you know, there's not a lot of malls in New York. I mean, it's called the Oculus. And already, mall's in New York, they're no good. They're just no good.

This is that they're either like the Atlantic Mall in Brooklyn, which is just like so janky. Trashed. It's trashed all the time. It's just a horror. And like, has a guitar center, a Victoria's Secret, a subway, and a Coldstone Creamery. And that's it. And like a target and a Unicle. And like, this isn't even a mall.

And so there's that. And then there's the Oculus. And so I was like, okay, a mall. This will be fun. And the Oculus is obnoxious. But so we were, where we went to Pop Mart, we got the damn things that the kids want. And then we're walking through the Oculus. We got the damn things that the kids want.

How loving parents they are. So you know, I'm a parent. I'm like grumbling, even though it was my. idea, you know, to use this as an incentive. No, you're allowed to also grumble when at a mall with your children. And then I get beckoned by, you know, a man who is shilling his products from some sort of beauty store. And because the Oculus, I don't know who the target.

I think it's wealthy tourists, you know, where Atlantic Mall is really for people from Brooklyn. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They don't give you much at the Atlantic Mall. Yeah. It's like you need a subway sandwich and some underwater. where, go to the Atlantic Mall.

Maybe if you can find it. I think is for very wealthy tourists. There's like an Apple store. There's a Pop Mart. And I don't know the name of whatever beauty product store this was, but this man calls me in. And I should have done the New York thing where I aggressively ignored him and kept walking. And I suddenly became a Midwestern tourist where I was like, oh, okay, sure, we'll come in. Oh, where's a plenty, you say?

Just like imagine they just rolled up in a cart and you're like, oh, a medicine man of sorts. But long- What kind of elixirs do you have for me? Exactly. But long story short, he sits me down. He's like, let me get rid of those horrible bags under your eyes. Oh, my God. What is he my doctor?

And I got bags. You know, I'm not going to say I don't got bags. I've always had bags. And they're cute. Thank you. I've had them since I was a kid. So I don't even think it's aging. You've always had them.

They're cute. It's just my McColley Culkin bags. But so I sit down and he, He's like, oh, this, he's just like, you know, like, as they do, just like, oh, my God, horrible. And he puts some sort of serum under my eye. And he's like, so what, what are we doing with your face? What do you already get done? What work are you already getting done?

What are we doing with your face? And I was like, I don't. Please God, tell me you're doing something with this. And I was like, I don't do. I was like, I wash my face and I use, you know, moisturizer. And he was just like appalled and upset. And he's like, what, how much Botox do you get? I was like zero.

And so then in like, I think in his disgust, he just, or this is, I'm sure, part of his strategy is that he only took away one of my bags. And then he was like, okay, so do you want to buy the product? And I was like, no. And he was like, okay, I'll see you later. And it was a very effective product. It sucked those bags right out. But the problem is for the rest of the day, I had one bag. One bag.

And zero bags on the other side. And I looked absolutely insane. Like it did and it was like Botox Did it make you want to go get the product? Yes, it did. And I was like, how much is your stupid product? And it was like $125 and I was like, I'll keep the bags. No. Thank you.

Yeah, I'll keep the bags. Thank you. So I'm going to keep the bags. Thank you. Bags are a part of me. And I'm not going to pay to take them away. But I, and it was like, I don't know what that shit was. They're a beautiful part of you, MJ.

I love your bags. I love it because it always, it's like it always increases you looking worried. And you already. look worried and I just think it's so cute. Well, I looked half worried for the whole rest of the day. And half wide awake. And it was, I got to admit that I was just shocked

by how effective this product was. I was like, wow, beauty products have come a long way. They've come a long way. From what I use, which is just SPF moisturizer and that's it. So I, apparently I can suck my bags out if I want to spend the money, but I'm not going to

whenever you want. You could suck those bags out any time. You could just go spend $125 to temporarily suck the bags back into your face. But then the problem is that every day as it wears off, they're just going to poof back out every single day. Yeah, I can't fall in love with myself bagless and then every day at the end of the day be disappointed again. Be disappointed with what you look at. You know, I can't be doing that. I already have enough body dysmorphia.

All right. I don't need to add extra things. But I am going to include, I'm putting in the chat for our Zoom, everybody. If you do look up, they're called Cry Babies is the name of the Laboo Boo Boo, which I think is so funny because Henry is, Henry's very good at shopping for people for Christmas. He's also, he's up there with me. He likes to put a lot of thought into things. But it was just so funny that he thought that this was going to, he got a Laboo Boo Boo Boo for everyone in my family. And it was funny that really.

only like our 20 year old niece that was like, oh, cool. And for us, we're all, I was just like, now I've got this fake crying. And Henry's like, you should move it from purse to purse. So she's with you every day or else she's going to cry. And so she's already crying. So why am I going to bring her with me? She's already mid-cry. Yeah. This is, I have seen that we actually have a knockoff one of these from the bodega, which is just as the thing about the pop mart stuff is to me, the knockoff stuff is just as good. But obviously for young people, it matters. whether it's real or not. But so you do that is, this is a hot commodity.

Anything from Pop Mart, very hot commodity. Yeah. I don't understand it. I don't want to understand it. But that's, that Henry. Those blind boxes really gets people. But Henry also, I think for him, he was just like, you should have seen me going in there picking out Laboo. I was like, just man by yourself, picking out Laboobo's a week before Christmas.

And he was just, he thought he was the top of the pop. I can't believe he even made it into a pop. Mark the week before Christmas, he must have been surrounded by a 14 to 17 year olds. This is the thing is that he wanted us all to thank him for the work. Because he waited in line to go in and he's like, and they stared at me while I looked at the luboos. They stared at me like I was going to steal him. Yeah.

And he's like, and I wasn't going to steal him, but you know, I did want to keep looking shifterier and shifterier as they stared at me shop because, but I also think that's why he ended up buying five lububoos. He's like, I have to spend so much money here. Because he waited so long in line that he thought that he had to because he also then found out that Labou's not that like, because they are, they're like $30. Like for giving something to a kid that they're probably just going to destroy, I understand. But I think he thought that he was going in to get one Labubu for our niece. And then he's like, oh, they're like $30.

Well, I'm here. I may as well get four more. I may as well get. But that it was. I thought that he wasn't going to let. us open them because they're really, they're not worth anything once they're open. Yeah. There are things at Pop Mart that are like $2,000.

But yes, thank God. If you want to use a trip to Pop Mart as an incentive for your child's to do swim lessons, it's not, you know, I feel like eight months. I got eight weeks of successful swim lessons out of it for a trip to Pop Mart, which is something I probably would have treated them to at some point anyway, you know? So it ended up working out. And do the kids now swim? Are they scared of swimming still?

I'm not going to say they're independent swimmers, but we have made a tremendous amount of progress. And it's all thanks to these extremely bizarre things that young people like at Pop Mart. These boo-boos, well, now you're going to have to start getting clothes for the boo-boos, you know? I know, that's the problem. That's where they get you. Oh, that's where they get you. But then you could also look to people like amazing hilarious from our chat. And people do, it's like, it's like our goose clothes. You don't need to get the crazy ones.

so you can just get the little, you know, you can get other stuff that people are making off Etsy. You can find lots of really great little clothes. No. We're not talking about little clothes. We're talking about big clothes on a big man. I was going to say, speaking of things I also don't understand.

I don't understand the Birkenbag thing. There's a whole iceberg of things we need to talk about here with the season finale of the traders, the Birkenbag. We have given everyone. We've given you a week, all right? Yeah. If you haven't watched the finale by now, then don't listen to the rest of this episode because we are going to be tough.

Because also, I'm sorry, if it hasn't been spoiled for you at this point, because it's every, I mean, it was spoiled for me. It was spoiled for me within like an hour of it being out. So it was, yes, it was spoiled for me, I think, on Thursday night with this picture of Rob Roush and Lisa Rina together. And like the literal, like the headline was Rob Roush winner of the traders. but the most important thing about that picture of Rob Rausch and Lisa Rina is that he is wearing an ice out pin. So if you too have been on the fence about whether or not you're attracted to Rob Rausch from Love Island and the traitors, the jury's back and the verdict is in and you can be attracted to him. And we want to have sex. And she said, quote, I don't fuck with ice.

I couldn't sleep at night not supporting my immigrant brothers and sisters. it's one thing to enforce the law, it's another thing to dehumanize people and break up families. I could cry with happiness upon hearing this quote from a really, like he is the top news in like, you know, reality, TV, pop culture, like that, he is on top of his game.

He's already got ads rolling in. For him to say that, fuck yes, man. Think about how bad it was two years ago with Melissa Barera getting fired from Scream 7 for speaking about Palestine. And that's, I know, a whole different story. We can talk about that. But just like...

We are going to get into that. And we're going to talk about that. But just to see this guy who is completely now at the... He is ushered into a world of adoration and ad deals. And for him to be like, fuck ice... Openly, outwardly against ice. Excellent. Excellent.

Excellent. Awesome news. And does confirm that he is... is attractive because I have been on the, I was like, this guy is attractive. Yo, how could you have been on the fence? This motherfucker, I swear to God, I feel like I've talked to enough of my friends that don't even like to look at a man. And they're like, I would. I would, though. For that one, I'd give it a shot. He does. He does kind of transcend sexuality in that way. But yeah, no, I don't, I was, I was, I was, I was, something about me couldn't pull the trigger. I'm being attracted to him. I was like, I'm intrigued.

by you. Is it because he's so good at being a traitor? Well, I did really enjoy. So, you know, full, we gave you your warning, full spoiler alert for discussion of the traders. I think that ending may have been one of my favorite episodes of reality television, like up there with like when Jen Shaw went down in SLC. Like that, like, watching watching them all get the phone calls from the FBI when they're all on a party bus. Like this was up there with that. It was a really good finale. And when Mora said, you're never going to have a girlfriend after this because you're

such a good liar. You're such a good liar. Oh, you beautiful Scottish dumbass. Oh, I love you so much. For those that don't watch, let me just give you a quick TLDR, all right? So this entire time, a lot of people that are watching the traders, we're rooting for Rob. I'm sorry.

I call her Irish. And Robb is from. Love Island. He is the snake wrangler that we knew from Love Island and I always loved him on Love Island because he really didn't give a fuck and he's just so chill and there's something about, I mean, to a point, MJ, that I did say that I am thinking about getting a big snake tattoo. I'm thinking about getting like an aura boris like a snake eating itself wrapped around my arm. And also, Holden told me I'd have to ask Lexi. permission to get a snake tattoo, by the way, which made me want to get a snake tattoo even more.

Because I don't have to ask anyone's permission to get a snake tattoo. But to be fair, our good friend, Lexi, yes, does have like an almost debilitating fear of snakes. Yes, but, you know, you can put on a long sleeve when you're around her. You're certainly not, there's not no better way to get Jackie to do something than for Holden to tell her not to do it. Not, or to go that I'm being forced to ask permission. I'm like, I'm not. I will never. But that's not, that is nothing to do with Lexi. But this, he's got this big snake tattoo on him. And he's just this big.

And when he first walked in, I said to Jeff, oh my God, this guy is so, there's nothing going on upstairs with this guy. I can't wait to see this guy on traitors. And then we watched him unfold. You could see how. hard Alan coming was in the end of that episode

because he was so proud of how hard Rob was a traitor he was a traitor through and through he played so well wow

and he was so good and he had just like with this with Mara who is a Scottish woman who was also on I was wrong she's Irish I apologize I'm sorry

I apologize to the Irish and the Scottish for mixing those up. But yes, a beautiful, beautiful, fun, smart, funny Irish reality person from Love Island, UK. Bombshell. Talk about a bombshell entering the villa. Yes, she is a bombshell of sorts. And she also was on Love Island. So they, from the beginning, were like, oh, same showsies. Like, we're, you know, let's partner, you know, we're partners.

And they had even the night before. looked each other into the eyes and they pinky swore and he grabs her face and he's like we're gonna make it all the way to the end baby and they were gonna go and they do and he was lying he flips not only does he he flips on the other trader in the very end after he had brought him in to be a trader flips on him in the very end and then in the last second when They both think they won. And then she goes, probably not a traitor, aren't you? You're not a traitor. And then you just see her face drop as he goes, yeah, I am a traitor. I'm the trader. Yeah, she like thinks he's joking and he's like, I'm not joking.

I'm not. Because for those that don't watch, if a trader makes it to the end, they get all the money. And if it's only faithfuls that get to the end, they all split the money. So Mara thought she was about to be splitting this huge pot with him. And she gets nothing because she got played by a fiddle by that, like a fiddle by that man. She is so. Wow. So hard.

She got played so hard. So hard. She got played so hard. I feel so bad for Mara. I loved her the entire show. I was just like, I love this woman. I love everything about her energy. But towards the end, she was just getting.

played so hard by this beautiful man. I think that, honestly, I think the reason I couldn't unleash my attraction to Rob was because I was like, I was just waiting for him to be disappointing somehow. And unfortunately, you can't be mad at him for playing the game. Now, I do feel very bad for Mora because, well, she is so beautiful. And again, she's like, funny, smart, like, well, I don't know about genuinely delightful to watch. A delightful personality.

She did not play the game well. She had absolutely no. She should have realized that... She even knew she had said the day before she's like, it's kind of crazy to tink that I'm still in the game. Yeah, why am I still here? Oh, is it because a traitor likes you and he's keeping you around? But also, for anyone not watching, it wasn't like a, oh, he's pretending to like like her.

They definitely just had, it wasn't, like, he wasn't being devious in that way. Totally. Like, they were flirty, obviously with each other. But he wasn't, yeah, he wasn't like, He wasn't leading her on in that way. He was lying to her about being a traitor. Yes. But poor Mora was like, I feel, I mean, I know it's a show.

And I just said last week, like, why are people getting their real emotions, like, tied up in this fictional, this obvious game? But she was like, her thing is that she has been cheated on by every guy she's ever been with. And so she was like, I just want to be able to trust. And I'm like, girl, this might be not not be the right game for you. Y'all, do you know she has been celibate ever since? For a year. I know. She said that she's been celibate.

She's so rocked by him. I know. That she's celibate right now. And that's, but it's like, and this is why I was like, oh, is Rob bad? But again, you can't even be bad at him because he just played the game. He even says it in the game. He's like, I'm just play. It's a game, guys.

Like he did say that multiple times of like, guys, it is just a game. It's a game. We just, we just play. the game. But, but oh my God, Tara and Johnny were so close. Our Olympic, our Winter Olympic, traumatized, you know, children, athletes, now adults, were so close. They like, they both realized, like, so close to the end. They were like, I think it's Rob and Eric. And this beautiful, beautiful Irish, Mora Higgins was like, I don't think it could be Rob. And, and girl, you should to listen to the figure skating besties.

Why would it have, everyone's like, it's got to be them, it's got to be them. Why would they openly be like, yeah, we're best friends and we're in this together if one of them was a traitor? But they had, they had pretended like they weren't best friends. Sure, but what would, in what way would it benefit the gameplay for them to be like, actually we are best friends if one of them was a traitor? The problem is MJ is that both of them very talented ice skaters. I think that everybody thought, though, that they weren't.

thinking very strategically in the game. So I feel like they all thought, well, now you guys are just being very obvious. So I do feel that it was that people did think they were just not that bright and that they were doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Right? And it has to be. And they also, I mean, to be fair, they didn't play a very good game until the end when they both figured it out.

And then Mora was too blindsided by Rob's handsomeness to listen to them. I do think that more my may you know I think that there even though Rob was not leading her on in a romantic way I do think that it is impossible to be more Higgins talking to that man Rob Rauch and not be completely swindled romantically by him I think that's what was happening right just getting lost in his eyes he's just so handsome I don't know did she just keep putting on more and bigger hats to like try to have him not look directly into her eyes. Is that really why she was wearing the big hats? Because how could you, he would, could have told me to do anything and I would do it. If he was looking me in the eyes and just being like, we're in this together. Are you kidding me? It's, you wouldn't.

I would just immediately be like, yeah, you're, you are probably right. Are you? Like, I would melt into the floor. I just want to say, yeah, Rob Roche, do it. He's doing heroic things for straight, heterosexual men everywhere because, especially hymboes and otherwise kind of bro presenting people, because he looks like the type of guy that you can't trust. And then at every turn, he impresses you. And that's what's so fun about it. You're like, oh, you dumbass.

And then you're like, oh, you're like, oh, you probably, are you probably like conservative? You seem kind of conservative code. And then he's like, ice out. Can't turn my back on the immigrant problem. and sisters and I'm like, what? And also, when immediately asked about what he's going to do with his money, that he's like, I'm not sharing it because this is going to help my family a lot. And he just kept talking about how it was going to help his family so much.

And that also slipped, slip, slipping and sliding on myself. But then not only, all of this. So he tells Mara, I'm not going to split the pot with you. I think that like there was like a little, I'm sure some people who were like, I mean, are you going to split it with her anyway? And he's like, no. But I will buy you a Birkenbag because apparently, and if you watch the reunion, which Ron Funches does complain about. And I, I appreciated that, oh, Monique, Monique Exchange, I believe, called Ron out where like Monique was just like, why did you do this show if now you're just like going on onto your stand-up and kind of like making fun of us when like you didn't really play the show very well?

And I kind of loved how Monique asked that because it wasn't really in a bitchy way, but it wasn't a way of like, we all know you're now just making fun of all of us, which, you know, you're a comedian. That's fine. That's what you are want to do. But Rob did say that he. He would, and so one of the things that Ron had said in the reunion, well, you guys were always talking about like Birkenbags, and I don't have anything to say about this, and they were talking about different, like, bags and stuff. So this must have been something that they were all talking about on this, like talking about Birken bags.

Now, Birken bags are very, very expensive handmade purses. But what I love is that even just this, extra mile that he did not have to do Rob. So Rob goes on, watch what happens live with Andy Cohen to give, because he said publicly that he was going to get Mara as an apology. He said he was going to get her. She wanted a burgundy burken bag. So he goes out.

He not only gets her the burgundy burkin bag, which people say, I think was about $16,000. He gets the bag. But I guess with Birken bags, part of it's which, I mean, it does sound like just a fancy thing that rich people do, but it is like kind of interesting and cool, is that you are supposed to, because these are handmade bags, the owner is who is supposed to touch the bag first. No one else is supposed to touch the bag. So Rob gifted her the bag wearing gloves because he was not supposed to touch the bag. not supposed to have touched the bag before the owner touches the bag. And it was because he was pulling it out of a bag, not because he just, it was like wrapped up. But even that extra mile talk about the things I would do to that snake that needs to be wrangled.

That's why. That is, because even like you were saying, like for bro presenting men, like to just to do something like that, And of course, everybody's like, obviously it's a PR move for him to be doing this publicly. Yeah, of course it is. But he made good on the promise. And he not only made good on the promise, but he went that extra mile. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I did find that what's what happens live exchange to be extremely sweet. And I did not understand the white glove thing. So thank you for explaining that. But yeah, I just, it is, it's just fun to be. attracted to a big, beautiful, dumbass who's not a bad man, you know? That's great. I love a hymbo, dude. It's why in my home D&D game, I play a barbarian big hymbo dude that, like, is supposed

to come in, but also loves talking. He's just a big, big old down to fuck anything under the sun, obviously. And I've kind of fallen in love with my hymbo barbarian character. and in my brain, except if he had like long, like long he man hair, I feel that Rob is definitely up there. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And, you know, good game. And I also just love Alan Cumming more than I could ever imagine. Alan Cumming put out another statement about the BAFTAs that was like, I'm just want to again say, I'm so sorry to everyone who was harmed. I'm sorry to the black community who's had to hear, you know, slurs against them for so long. I'm sorry to the disabled community that is so misunderstood.

I'm just so sorry all this happened. And it was such a thoughtful statement. And then he's over here on the trainers wearing these incredible outfits. And I just love him. Also, do you want to throw it out there that after having. talked about that when we said that BAFTAs were the bitch. Yeah. It was definitely shown that

there were other things that were said that had been taken out of the that had and that so that that was that was straight up a choice to keep it in. That's so, they had literally edited out other things that

the person with Tourette's had said like homophobic slurs homophobic things that they edited out and they didn't edit out the Racial slurs. What the fuck? What? What? That's so, that is so fucked. I know I was, it's evil. It is, it's, it's, it's nefarious. It is. And like, we all know the PR machine is evil. We know that. We see it. But things like that, fuck you. I know. Fuck you, dude. I know. That, that, I was thinking about that conversation after we had it a lot because, yeah, I saw this great post by Ibramax, Kand. that was like, you know, harms can happen even when they're unintentional and, you know, dismissing the harm because it is not intentional is a way of, you know, it doesn't, you know, honor the harm that was done to the black actors, you know, who were on stage when this happened. And so I was, you know, I was thinking a lot about it, but also we were trying to be, you know, careful and thinking about the, you know, the Tourette's aspect of it as well. And so I was, I've been revisiting that conversation a lot, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but. then when I learned that the Baptist edited out the homophobic slurs but not the racial slurs, that I've, I can't stop thinking about that. I'm like, in what universe? Like I under,

I'm not naive enough to be like, why would they edit out free Palestine and not the racial slurs? Like, I understand that that is unfortunately the world we live in. But in what I'm just, I am truly like, wow, wow, you, you went, you made the effort to edit out. the homophobic slurs. And you made the effort to keep in the racial slurs. That is a conscious choice. That's wild. Yep.

Wild. And really, so, you know, if you do want to place blame somewhere, it is the Baptist. This is the bitch. It's the bitch does. It is the person that made that choice that worked for the Baptist. Yes. Then worked for the entertainment company.

And Lord knows it's all going to be one company. soon anyway. So I guess what does it matter, you know, for whatever. I feel like it really is crazy where you're like looking at everything and everything is so horrible and you're watching everything and then I feel like you look away for a second and you're like, oh, let me just look away. And then you're like,

and what's happening over here? I know. I just, and then over here, what's happening? And just every way, every facet. Don't, yeah, don't worry, guys. It's just one billionaire family now who gets to decide which movies get made. What could go wrong? I think it's going to be great. I can't wait for Paramount to land on the moon and we have to start calling it Paramount's moon. You know, like I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting for us to start getting like new names for planets. And I'm excited for that to be taken over. Like once we get out into space, like in Fast and the Furious, I think that's when we're really going to see them shine. Yeah. No, I mean, we're going to have some great ads coming to our theaters soon and the shape of movies. But speak in the movies, do you want to talk about the Scream 7 catastrophe?

You know, I do want to talk about it even just to say, y'all are such idiots. Yeah, you know, people that made this. Because I was saying, you know, I was saying on Friday, someone asked if I was going to go see the new Scream 7, and I wasn't thinking about it at all. And I was just like, because honestly, I'm going to be real with you, MJ. I didn't even realize another scream was coming out.

And I was like, oh, there's another scream. Yeah, of course I'm going to go see it. And then immediately chat was like, what about the controversy with General Ortega? And with Melissa Prairie, like, what about it? And I was like, oh, I wasn't even thinking that they would even attempt to continue. Like, I wasn't thinking about that at all. I didn't realize that what, for anyone that is confused about what happened with screams, if you also were like, I also had no idea that there was another scream coming out.

It's because they're all such huge, stupid, bumbling idiots that are trying to make money so hard. But then they're just like, they can't move how hard their dick is out of the way thinking about all of the money. So the dick just keeps getting in the way of all of the money. And so they just like put the dick all up inside of Scream 7 and scrambled all the inside of it, gooshed all over it. And now it's just a covered and goon lump on the side of the fucking road. that they spent millions and millions and millions of dollars to make. And it's because they had censored Melissa Barrera for her views, her outspoken views on freeing Palestine. Yeah.

She had a post that, you know, it was a year and a half ago now or so. And it was like, I think, two Instagram stories. Yep. And she, you know, in which she basically just says, you know, this is a genocide. and I don't support it. She was immediately fired. Even though she had been in several previous screams, she was well established.

Successful, yes. And they took her out immediately, and Jen Ortega quit in solidarity, which is, you know, really cool. And then, yeah, the Scream franchise just kind of powered through. They got Nev Campbell. They're just setting various piles of money on. It's not even that they just got Neve Campbell.

It's that Nev Campbell had refused to come back to scream. She said no. She said, unless you pay me an exorbitant amount of money, I refuse to come back to scream. Them in their attempt to be like, okay, well, just pretend like we didn't do any of that censorship shop. Guys, look, we spent $7 million on Neve Campbell. But then what they did was they had to completely rewrite everything because they lost their two main stars. And then they tried to jam Nev Campbell back into it with another storyline. And the whole movie, so it's like you're going to go through all these lengths.

You'd think they'd at least make a good movie. Yeah. So Matt Bernstein had a great video about this on Instagram explaining it. all of this like really stupid AI promotional stuff. It ends up being this cobbled together kind of mess of a movie. And then if the bad movie isn't bad enough, there's also the story, Jackie, that you said, of Anna Camp, who is one of the stars.

Oh my God. Host gloating about how the post is the boycott didn't work. The critics hate didn't work. The pathetic. Didn't work. What worked was audiences coming out and making the film a success. Nope. Nope.

That's not true. That's not true. Like it just literally, nope, everybody did hate it. Everybody's ripping it apart. Your gloating is for absolutely nothing. And then all it did was make you look like a big fucking dummo. Like, I understand that not everybody. he was in a free Palestine, but I cannot imagine taking to my little account as a celebrity

and being like, you fucking idiots who advocated against a genocide look like, you look like the assholes now. And it's like, and then immediately, of course, she did a Tobias Fuenke and is like, I'm so sorry because everyone was like, girl, this is a really bad look. It's a really bad look. She had to immediately be like, oh, I. For your lily white ass to be like. to be like, and then look at what I did.

It's like, this is not the time. This is not, it is just all. I hope, but then it's like things like that where it's like, then you shouldn't be in the movie. Then like you're saying shit like that. You also shouldn't be in the movie then. You're going to censor everybody fucking censor this stupid nonsense. And it was so funny too because it actually even wasn't. I always referenced that Tobias Fugnke when, because I always think whatever anybody,

celebrity issues, a very quick apology. because it reminds me of the part of an arrest development when he goes to Michael, oh, maybe we should ask your wife. I'm sorry. Your wife is dead. She's dead. And it's just a look on his face of like a, well, you got me there. And then he immediately goes, I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. That's not even what Anacamp did because she gave the weasily. Because your wife's day. It is such a horrible joke to say. to a sibling that has lost a Parker. Oh, I'm sorry. Your wife is dead. I think about that all the time. But I,

she didn't even apologize that well because she said, oh, it has come to my attention that I reposted someone else's story that does not reflect my personal beliefs. Fuck you in a camp. It was truly like, I've been hacked situation. Like, you have not been hacked.

Girl, you just posted a really obnoxious, gloating post about how the actor who got fucked for saying Free Palestine is the real sucker. And everyone was like, hey, that's not very nice. And you're like, I've been hacked. Like, it is. Yeah, it's not a good look, girl. Not a good look.

Not a good look. And seems to be not a good movie. So that is, yeah. So if anyone is curious, I will not be watching Scream. I have no design. I'm not even going to waste my time because they all wasted theirs. And I do hope that for anyone, I did end up going see it.

I do hope you had a good time, you know. I imagine that there's some, I'm sure there's some good kills in it. But you know what? For me, I'm just going to go back and just watch the first three again, you know? Yeah, that's, I'm a bit of a. And I did say first three. Yeah, I mean it. I don't even know if I've seen the third, Jackie.

I think I'm a one and two purist. I really, this is a problem, though. I love the Scream franchise. I like, I like the how it was meta. I like, like, scream, that original scream changed my, I'll never forget. Oh, yeah. Specifically watching it for the first time. I remember when we got it on VHS right after it had come out because I was way too young to go see it in the movie theater.

I was absolutely terrified. And that was, like, a scream is still up there for me. It's still, you just throw it on. It's just a great fucking movie. Oh, yeah. I mean, scream one is one of my favorite horror. movies. They're coming out with a new scary movie though. They are, they did release that they're coming out with another scary movie. And I, you know,

I know they're a product of their time, but I'm going to be real with you. I haven't seen the scary movies since they came out. Same. I don't know how they hold up. But I feel like another one in, in my brain, it's going to be like the new naked gun. Yeah. I think that I'm going to be delightfully surprised by it. I'm manifesting this, guys. We need it. We need scary movie to come out and show us that that franchise still hasn't, even though we all know it doesn't. But what if it does? Yeah, I believe you did just compare the scary movie franchise to the Naked Gun franchise, and I'm going to let that rock. I'm not going to cancel you for that. No, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much for it. I'm saying of different times.

Of different times. You know, I do feel that there was, you know, scary movie. Like the first time I saw a scary movie, that also rocked my world in a very different way. For sure. Yes. No, they were, they were, that was an important franchise at the time. Thank you, MJ. Well, now I'm looking up scary movie.

And when was scary movie? No, not scary movie seven. No, I'm talking about original scary movie. It was like the early 2000s, right? 2000. Wow. in the year 2000. You know what it is?

I very accurately, also the other day, predicted we were watching season six of Buffy and things were getting really dark. And I joked. On season six of Buffy? What are you talking about, MJ? We're not absolutely debilitated every week we watch it. It's very upsetting. And I like kind of did a little joke like, what is this like a post-9-11 world? And I was so right, you guys, season six pretty-year.

You called it. You called it so hard. But not only that, and we do talk about this a little bit while watching Buffy, but it's crazy for those that are familiar with Buffy, everybody knows that season six is intense. And it is an emotional roller coaster. For those that were unaware like M.J. and I were, season six, the first episode of season six started to be released in October. of 2001. So a month after 9-11 was when this insane season that MJ and I have both said, like, if I were watching this when it was coming out and now knowing that it happened right after 9-11, and for me and like having lost family members and I'm like thinking of where I was,

if I had seen it at that time period, I don't know who I would be today. I know. Genuinely. It's just a little weird piece of the pastiche of Buffy. And I obviously know that it was written and filmed before 9-11. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Or at least the beginning of the season. It's a long season. But like, I was just like how, I was like, why does this feel like suddenly we're in a different time? We're in an after kind of world.

And it was we were in the after of 9-11. But also the scary move, the reason I can, there's like a certain range of years where I can pinpoint the late 90s to the early 2000s. And I will always remember when things came out then because I remember seeing the ads for it at my friend's house. And I know I was only friends with that person for this certain range of years. Does anyone else have this? Oh, yes. You're like, I know that happened in the year 2000 because in the year 2000. I saw it at this friend's house and I was only friends with that person in the year 2000.

Yes. Yes. Yes. In fact, actually, weirdly enough, just brought this up because of the show punked. because I had a specific memory with the show punked, and that also was a very specific snapshot in time. Yeah, that was... The trucker hat punked era that we all lived through. Yeah, thank God that's over.

Sorry, this is a complete sidebar and absolutely apropos of nothing that we're currently talking about. But I just wanted to throw it out there that I just remembered that I saw this Instagram reel that was saying it was this woman that pleading with the casting of the traders to bring on the members of the Jersey Shore. And I can't agree with this person more. I would love to watch Snooki try to be a traitor. To each other because they all know each other so well. And family reunion is ending. It's going to be their last season.

They're going to need something to do. They're going to need something to do. I know. We also know that Snooki did get a service. cervical cancer diagnosis recently. I know. We're sending love to snook. Said and love to snook.

Make sure you get your pap screenings, guys. I missed one. I missed a year and I just went and got one and I was two years behind and I was panicking. I was in a panic. So don't be me. Don't forget a year. Don't be MJ. Get it checked.

Yes. But that is. And if they say, oh, it might not be covered. You say, well, you go figure out how to get it covered because it's going to get checked. I feel like this is the place in life. And maybe it's because of like the different seas of grief. navigating right now, but I'm definitely in it. Like, doctors don't want to see me coming right now because I am

advocating for my fucking health right now. Yeah, no, somebody's somebody's got to. We need to support each other and advocating for ourselves and what we need. And when they say, oh, no, actually, that stuff doesn't get covered for another five years. I don't care. Figure it out. I want you to check it. I want you to look at it. Look at me. Look at my body. Man, I had gained, I'm so bad at this. I had gained 28 pounds in 10 days when I was pregnant with Freddie because I was extremely sick. And they wanted the baby to stay in longer to grow. And I wasn't meeting this like clinical definition for an emergency C-section. And Gideon is the U in the situation. And he was just like, doctor, look at them. Look at how inflate. They look like they've been blown up by a tire pump. You need to go speak to

your supervisors and make, make it happen. We're not. We are not. going to sacrifice the vessel right now for the baby. But so many people in those situations don't have a Gideon. Yes. They don't have somebody that's because it's so. And then you're just laying there just being like, but wait, listen, if someone good. Sorry, we're not.

This is just a sad thing. This is just me screaming about being an adult and just living in the current reality that we live in. That it's just reminding everybody we have to advocate for ourselves. And if we have friends that are also like struggling and dealing with it, we have to like support each other and going through. this and being like, we need to do these things for ourselves. Yes.

Okay? Yes. That's all I want to, you know, just a quick little pep talk in the middle of our traders and wanting to fuck the snake wrangler and talking about scream, you know? Yes. Now, should we, should we talk about Connor Story on SNL? He did a good job. It was cute.

I do want to at least just say that I'm, I think might be the only person. weirdly annoyed by the fact that everybody was talking about the SAG After Awards and they were talking about it. And I had to like look up what the actor awards were because everything's just being like, well, at the actor awards. And I was like, what the fuck are the actor awards? I felt the same way, man. I was like, the actor awards.

What is, who is this for? Is this for the actors? I think it's for the general public because they're like, the general public can't hear the name of a union. You don't know what SAG after is. I couldn't pass it. It was like everybody knows that one union. Everybody knows that union is the actors union.

We know this. And I feel like this is part. So they change it from the SAG After Awards to the Actors Awards. And I feel like it's one of these things where they're like, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, look at us. See, we gave the power back to the actors the way that the actors want to hire. Like, I just feel like it's coming from this idea where they're like, Like, that'll show these pleads that that's what this is.

It's honestly, the actors are at the front of this award. I know I shouldn't be annoyed by it, but I am. No, I've also been trying to figure this out because there, I liked that they were called the sag after awards because it felt like this little industry-ish thing. It was through the union. Yeah. You vote through the union. It's like it's union voters. It is something for the union.

But also, I guess the union is so good at, like, not giving people health insurance and, like, not health. So it's like, I guess maybe they were like, you know, we don't give them any of those things that, you know, they should have over time. So maybe if we call it the actors awards, then the actors will be sated. I feel like this was an image problem where they were like, well, if we call it the sag after awards, it just seems like this kind of like insider industry circle jerk. We'll call it the actor awards, which seems like even more of an insight. of an insider circle. Anybody who wasn't watching because they were called SAG AFRA,

I don't think is going to watch now that they're called the actor awards and are the SAG After Awards? A little bit of a circle jerk, yes, but all the awards shows are, it's fine. All of the, every award show is. Do you know how much money F1 had to give the Oscar organization

to be nominated for Best Picture? Because the thing, it's like we all know, that this is a PR, because it's an Apple-owned movie, that this is their bid at an Oscar movie, so they paid the money, regardless of the car, regardless of how fast it goes around in a circle.

Not that I'm saying it's ultimately a bad movie because it's about racing. I'm just saying, the fact that it is up for best Oscar nomination goes to show it is literally just the amount of money you put into a project, to get it Oscar nominated. Yes, yes.

I think that's true. And right, I think that there's like a sheet. I've always wondered exactly where the SAG After Awards fit in with this because, right, the Oscars, obviously, it's like, there's the Academy. And then the Golden Globes are like the fun, drunk, Hollywood, foreign press or whatever. And, yeah, I've always felt like this, this is like where it's like, oh, there's a prestige of, like, being respected by your peers. Yeah. By your peers. Like, that's what it was supposed to.

supposed to be the Fuboos of. I don't know. It's not in Vogue Fubu. Maybe I can't. Not in SAG after, I guess we can't really, because we certainly know that that is not the case. And,

but it does feel like that, like, that's part of it. It is actors voting for other. It's supposed to be in the union. Yeah, yeah. But. And I just feel like they're trying so hard to make fetch a thing.

Like, I just, it's really. And, and because. it's in conjunction with so many horrible things going on in our current news cycle. And there's really not a lot of, like, I think a lot of celebrities, you know, are not being the Rob ours out there with the ice out pins.

You know, it's like I think that they are definitely more in like a Sydney Sweeney kind of camps. That's true, man. That's why it's a lot of them are hiding. A lot of them are hiding. That is so, I'm so glad that you brought that up. That is also why I was like, is Rob Rufford. Really wearing an ice out pin?

Because all of these actors, you know, very few. Except for Mark Ruffalo. I know there's a couple of other ones who are wearing ice outpins, but so many of these. You know, you know, you're Jane Fond. I'm not saying that no actors. Yeah, you got your John Cusackson, the people who've always been outspoken and everything. But like, so many of these actors are chicken shit. Complete chicken shits, you know.

And so it's very exciting to see Rob Rous again at the cusp of being. an ad, a millionaire by ads, being like, yeah, I'm going to say it. But all these actors are chicken shit. I mean, again, look at the Scream 7. Like Neff Campbell, I didn't know you were a chicken shit, but you're a chicken shit too. And so, yeah, it is- Chicken shit getting paid seven million, because she gave them a number that she didn't think that they were going to match. And that's why. I don't even know if it is, like, at that point, it's like, I guess if you're going to hit my pie in the sky number, well, yeah, I'll fucking do your stupid. Right. I would admire your game if it wasn't for the fact that you're scabbing for a person who was unjustly fired, right?

Right. But, yeah, I was trying to summon myself to care about the Actor Awards. And I couldn't accept for, obviously, Seth Rogan's speech accepting the posthumous award for Catherine O'Hara. For Catherine O'Hara. Was very nice. Did you watch any of Harrison Ford's speech at all? because Harrison Ford... I love listening to him talk.

He's, man, it is what... He's one of those... Harrison Ford got the Lifetime Achievement Awards. And essentially, he's like, you know, eventually they give you the, well, you're still alive award. It's essentially kind of how he was coming about it. Yeah, he has to be old. He does hate to be old. But I will say he does, like, he was genuinely touched.

Like, it was a beautiful speech. It's just funny because... It's like every time I see Harrison Ford, I'm like, oh, yeah, he's still with Callista Flockhart, which I don't know why that was, I mean, not that I don't know why. We all remember. Remember when that was the biggest story was that Harrison Ford and Colista Flockhart were together? And now you look at them and you're like, oh, well, now they've just been together forever. Yeah, now they're just an old married couple. huge, huge thing. And I saw

Colissa Falkhart like in the audience. And now it's like, it's so crazy what, you know, a couple of decades will do of just like, oh, now you're just an old couple. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Yeah. Not that, I mean, I mean, Colista Falkhart is, you know, 20 something years younger than Harrison Ford. I'm not, I'm not calling Melissa Flockhart old. Well, she's 61. Yeah. And she looks great, by the way. God, she, man, she looks fucking. Man, 61 looks different than he used to. I know.

Think about the golden girls. We think about all that man. Sixty one just, it's different now, y'all. I know, but I also think it's very funny to think about Harrison Ford and Clostoflark Hart together. Because, again, talk about place-based memories. I remember just like being in my childhood home as a sixth grader thinking about Allie McBeal. Who was someone in our Patreon? I'm so sorry, but I'm just remembering right now.

someone was talking, I believe it was while we were talking on our wisteria Laniacs episode, I believe it was a comment under there because we were talking about where Desperate Housewives was like at the time when it was coming out and how it was being received and everything. And someone brought up that Allie McBeal was also one of those shows that was a feminist groundbreaking show in the late 90s that I, I'm going to be real with you, MJ, dancing baby. and Callista Flockhart are the only things

I know about Allie McBear I think she might have been a lawyer She was but I guess the first episode She refuses to tolerate sexual harassment in the workplace And she quits And like that's the star of the show In 1997

I think I might want to revisit Ali McBeal We're having such an amazing time Revisiting Desperate Housewives And just to put it out there for any non-patrons who are curious because I heard from somebody that was like, well, I'm not interested in in reality. So I'm not interested in Desert Housewives.

But I was like, no, not those Housewives. We're talking. Not those Housewives. Are you interested in ABC primetime dramas from the early 2000s during the Iraq war era? Starring Terry Hatcher. And Felicity Huffman, who would later go on to have a college admission scandal in Merchia, I mean, you know, that's there's. We're having a great time.

There ain't nothing reality about Desperate Housewives, but it is what inspired the show Real Housewives. So I can see why you could get confused with that. So it's not. It is a soap opera. It is a soap. It is a primetime soap from a different era, an era which many of us remember, you know.

And so that's what's so fun about it. But yes, apparently Allie McBeal's same thing. And why did Clistoflockhart disappear from the public eye? Did it, I mean, she got put through the ringer as a celebrity. I remember that. Oh, my God. Not a good time to be a woman in public in the late 90s. Well, especially, yeah, you know, how dare she have a body?

That's the thing. It really was. Having a body was a crime. She was a human being with a body is really what her crime was. And she got chased out of public life for 30 years. Yeah, pretty much. Because I am looking to see if, like, has she? But no, they just, they wanted a private world.

they really, they just pulled in and they didn't want to be doing it anymore. And I mean, married to Harrison Ford, you don't have to. Yeah, you get paid. You certainly don't. I mean, why would you after being put through all of that? Yeah. Would you ever want to be seen?

Like, don't look at me. Yeah. Don't perceive me. Yeah. Don't, I don't want, just don't look at me at all anymore. Yeah. Oh, you're going to scrutinize every inch of my body just because I have the audacity to be a woman on a television show. You know what?

You can have it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll just live privately with my extraordinarily rich, talented husband. And it is, it is sweet that like, like Harrison Ford, I'm looking at this quote, that Harrison Ford was talking about, like, that essentially that youth and love are talked about so often, but that older love is not discussed as much in, in terms of like the actual reality of it. And he says, you know, you think about falling in love and all that business, you think it's the

business of youth or something, you know. But staying in love is the issue. Maintaining, nurturing, basically not fucking up. And he said, that's why the key to my marriage is, I don't tell my wife what to do. And I think that is very, it's such a simple statement. But he has said he's like, we've had to work. We've had our ups. We've had our downs like everybody else. But we've stayed together. And she has said, he's the person that I want to call when something happens. That, you know, the knee-jerk thing where I have to call Harrison, it's like they're just, they're in love. Why am I crying?

They've been in law, right? Callista Flokhart and Harrison Ford's 30-year relationship. That's really nice. Yeah. What the fuck? And talking about like becoming a father to like her children

and it's just, and it's just, wow. I, you think that he's such, because he is, he is canonically a curmudge foe life. Yeah. Like everybody knows he's Mudge number one.

He's budget number one and unfortunately so is Han Solo. So it's difficult to disentangle them. It really works well. I mean, the whole I love you, I know. I know. It works because especially when you find out that that was an improved line. Like, it makes sense because Harrison Ford is also like that. I know.

So, but also we can fix him. Is he not the perfect? We can fix him. Callista did. Callista fixed him. And if Callista can fix him, then we can fix him. then we can fix any of them. That's not true.

Not true, but that is not the case. But Rob Raus doesn't even need to be fixed. We don't have to fix him. He's good. He came out to fix him. He came out good. And you're so scared to like him because there must be something bad. But he's good. He's just so. And he really is, you think that he'd be so hot.

Who wasn't even in the traders that was, I think it was Johnny Weir that was like, he's so hot, I can't even look at him. And that it was so hot. so funny in the reunion, how many of them were like, Rob won because he's so hot that like we could barely have conversations with him. He's so hot. Like he's just so that like that's such a funny, like think of beautiful privilege. We talk about beautiful privilege a lot. Yeah. And that is such a privilege of someone that is that beautiful. But also you think, but then they're inherently other. It's double-sided. I had a

it is. A friend in college, I think I've talked about this on the show. I had a friend in college who was just like so stunningly attractive and he was like, it's so funny. They get away with everything and they don't even know. He was like, it's very hard because nobody wants to like talk to me and connect with me. Like people are either like intimidated to talk to me or like they lose interest because they realize they're not going to date me or whatever. Like, and he, He was like, I actually find it like very hard to connect with people. And with Rob Brous, like, yeah, it is privilege on the one hand. But also, on the other hand, I do think every, he won because everybody underestimated him.

Right. Because everybody was like, there's no way. There's no way it's that dumb fuck, you know. But like, I keep saying it. I keep being like that dumb guy. He's not. He was very. He's not.

He played a brilliant game. Yes. And so it is, I do. I do think. that I think being a beautiful woman is a different kind of curse because people underestimate you in a specific way that's informed by a misogy. In a very different way. But being a beautiful man, I do think is complicated.

I also feel like part of what I respect so much about what Rob did in the end was that he never underestimated Mara. Yes. And how, even though she kept saying, oh, I'm not good at the game, oh, I'm just not good at the game. I like that he won by not throwing her under the bus to make her look like she didn't know what she was doing. Yes, I agree. He is, you can just tell. He just seems like not a misogynist.

And I love that for him. I love it for all of us, all right? Isn't it nice that we can look at a man that is presumably heterosexual, that we can look at that hot man and be like, I think that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a good one. I think he's kind to women.

He's kind to gay people. And he's against ICE and he's kind to immigrants. Okay. And this day and age, we'll take it. Well, do it. Yes, please. But also, in the very end, just a sad sprinkle on this episode. Uh-oh.

Bernie Spears got arrested for a DUI. And I don't know if you saw that. There's no other information out yet. I just, it like just dropped this morning for us. So I just wanted to say, send in love to Britney Spears and I hope that everything's okay. And I just, every time, every time I see her in a headline, I'm just like, oh God. Leave Britney alone. Oh, God, I hope she's okay.

I know. Every time I try to fly, I fall without my wings. I feel so small. I guess I need you, baby. Oh, no, am I going to go? Am I about to go listen to all of the Britney Spears catalog in support of Britney Spears? Yes, I am. All right.

If we have to do it. Yes, we can do that. And we will do it. We'll have each other's backs. Thank you, everybody, for hanging out with us while we, you know, maybe we spoiled the traitors for you or maybe you don't give a shit about the traitors. But now maybe you're intrigued because he was the best traitor. Oh, I didn't even talk about House of Villains.

I'm all caught up on House of Villains. and I'm throwing myself into this season because, man, give me an opportunity to stare at New York and I'll say, give me that big apple. She's back again. I don't give a shit.

I'll watch her do anything. And also Tom is on it too. So I'm like, if Tom, if stupid Tom's on it, Tom Sandoval from Vanderpump. So if Tom's on it and I'm going to fucking watch it. So everyone, if you're watching House of Villains, reach out to me. I'm going to continue talking about it because I am going to continue watching it.

So everybody, MJ, thank you so much. Thank you, Jackie. It's been a beautiful, beautiful day. And it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. And we're just going to keep out there, keep advocating for ourselves, keep supporting each other to advocate for ourselves, and just keep being good. Send love out to Britney Spears.

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