Page 7 - Second Helpings - Sleepin' with Gleb

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

This week on Second Helpings, MJ and Jackie are swappin' pet shop memories, Dancing with the Stars is here to save us with a bizarre new cast, and Jackie is excited for all the Hallowen candy comin' out including Halloween peelers to bring out ur inner Armie Hammer! MJ is excited for Taylor Frankie Paul to be the new Bachelorette, and Jackie is burning through "Real Housewives" and has finally got to the prosthetic leg attack, and Jackie found out Pete Davidson is part owner of her favorite sock brand doublesoul via Sharktank.  Ireland Baldwin gifted her father a pig shaped grill, hopefully so he'll never forget that voicemail, Jackie has become trapped in the Britbox channel on HBO Max and is obsessed with " FOR THE LOVE OF KITCHENS" then MJ and Jackie talk about the wholesomeness of children's cooking shows. MJ's finally gettin' 'round to watchin' "Hunting Wives" and not only is it great but HUBBA HUBBA!! There is a 52 year old woman has brain disorder where she see's dragons everywhere because she had brain lesions, Killian Murphy says he has "ROMO" RELIEF of Missing Out, season 2 of "Peacemaker" is fucking great, MJ watched Superman over the break and now understands Jackie's cries of "We need a Superman" as they head down a Superman hole, Jackie has positive things to say about the "Office" spinoff "The Paper" and North West now has a dermal piercing as Kim continues her "cool mom" quest.  A new study shows that cheese can cause nightmares, KJ Apa says everyone was fuccin' on the set of Riverdale. JACKIES SNACKIES REDUX 1:11:20.975 til 1:14:56.551, VMA Chat, Cardi B throws a pen right after winning her assault case, and even more on this Second Helpings! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

But don't you worry? No Zoom. I'm not playing music. That's just me. Screaming into the ether with my best friend, MJ. How the hell are you doing, MJ? Oh, are we still sick over here? Yeah, we are.

But don't you worry. A lot going on right now that we're not going to talk about, you know, just... Oh, is there? Not in the world right now. Are there a couple of things happening out there? A couple of things happened. It's been a week. It has been...

Man. The week is weak in town. And I feel like a little guinea pig over here. Week, week, week, week. And maybe it's telling me I'm weak. And I look dead into those guinea pigs' eyes. I say, don't you ever call me weak? I'm stronger than the storm.

Oh, I have a fun little pastime that we've developed in my family I can share about. Speaking of guinea pigs, we like to go to the pet co and look at. at the hamsters, and that is at least a two-hour activity. Great way to spend the Saturday. Oh, my God, don't you remember? As you brought that up, I specifically remember going up to the avenue when we were kids, and we'd go up to the avenue where we'd go up to the pet store, and we would just stand outside the pet store, looking at the puppies in the pet store,

for, like, I mean, we lived that hashtag, how much is that doggy in the window life, and we would just stare at the dogs for a long. time. Totally same. In my version, it was the mall pet store, but it was like any trip to the mall included like spending an hour at the pet store. Oh yeah. Thank God my kids like know that we're not going to get a hamster and so they, I don't, there's not a lot of emotion. Do they? It comes up. But like when I, I was been reflecting on this because I'm like, I remember going to the mall pet store every single time we went to the mall. And I would go through a whole emotional arc of like, I would look at the dogs and then I would pick my favorite one and I would imagine my whole life with them and how I would be

happier person and I would never be lonely and I would never be bored and I and I would you know envision my entire better life with the dog and then I would be weeping and begging and like you know and I would it happened every time and you know and so thank knock on wood you realize where your children came from yeah that's yeah I'm like oh this is this is why I have a lot of memories of just constantly sobbing as a child. So this is why. Oh, yeah. Oh, I was, I see, usually I was usually silently crying.

I did a lot of silent crying when I was little. Yeah. Well, that's, you know, that's, I'm not going to say it's good, but it is. It's better. It's better, MJ. Different consequences to each. No. MJ, it's better when you take your emotions and you shove them down and you make sure you're good

and ashamed of having all of them. And that's why you silently. cry to make sure no one sees that you're experiencing an emotion that might be too over-traumatic for the situation. Right. Yeah. I mean, you know, there's with, when we talk about neurodivergent kids, there's this term masking, you know, and adults too, right?

I have never masked a day. I'm not saying that that was masking, but it sounds like maybe it was masking. And, you know, as a parent of kids who don't mask. I'm proud of them for not masking. You don't want to ever encourage masking. No. And also there are times where, you know, you find yourself trying to figure out how to cope and live in the world. And I'm like, you know, this is a, we're going to have to find, we're walking a tightrope here.

We want to, we want to be ourselves. Oh, yeah. Feel our feelings. And yet we do continue to go on and live in the world. We do need to be a part of society. We live in a society. And that is the, that's the rub, you know. but we might not live in a society.

We might not for much longer. So, you know, it's, oh, it's all crumbling. Sure. That problem might solve itself sometimes soon. But don't worry, that's what dancing with the stars is here for. Ooh, I'm so excited. I think it's going to save us. I love dance shows.

I've talked about this before. I'm more of us so you think you can dance type of guy, but I'll watch Dancing with the Stars. And you know me. I'll watch it if it's featuring famous children. which is a, that's my problematic behavior. I like when reality dance shows feature children dancers because I think children dancers are cool.

But I also understand that that's probably not a great life. No. But these are adults and they're, oh, are they adults? Oh, are they adults? We've got Whitney from Secret Lives and Mormon Lives. We've got Jen Appleg from Secret Lives and Mormon Lives. And we've got Helodia Baldwin. But not only do we have that.

We have, we also have Olympic Golden Lives. medalist Jordan Childs down for it. Dylan Ephron's going to be on from traders that we love so much. From being the brother of Zach Ephron, I'm sorry. The brother of Zach Ephron, but also Danielle Fisselt. We're going to have Topanga on as well. Yeah. Robert Irwin. Uh-oh. We've got, oh, Bob Erwin's coming on. Okay, I'm sorry, but this is actually stars. Like, this is a robust cast. And wait for last but not least. comedian Andy Richter and you know that he somebody I love Andy Richter but also someone from Pentatonics is going to be on it but I don't singing with the stars we're not going to remember

which one he is but here's I'm going to throw it out there. It's an ensemble experience Jackie. It doesn't matter who it is because Pentatonic is an ensemble. Did you say odd ensemble because I think that's what you meant. Odd ensemble. Yeah, throw it out there. I have never seen. See, I feel, it's not that I feel the opposite from you, MJ, about the dancing shows, except when it comes to the children, then yeah, I do feel the opposite of you. But I have never watched a Dancing with the Stars show before. Now, I will say I did ask chat last Friday. Like, what do I have to brace myself for? And I will say chat said there is a lot of fluff in these episodes. Oh my God. It's like that. It's like how Golden Bachelor was two and a half hours, but you spent the summer in the villa. You're going to be fine.

I did. But yeah, there's a lot. It's a whole two-hour experience. I feel like sometimes there'll be several shows a week. You know, it is, it's like taking a college class. But if you haven't watched Dancing with the Stars, I'll just give you the elevator pitch, guys. I'll bet you know because it's been around for 20 years. But you've got really good talented dancers who are really good at dancing.

And then they get partnered with a star who they're going to have. varying degrees of goodness at dancing. Unfortunately, Hilaria is probably going to be one of the better dancers, you know. Although everybody that's anybody says that she's partnered with Gleb and that everybody says that Gleb always fucks the celebrity. Well, I'm sorry, I'm hung up on the name Gleb. You know, Hilarius.

You don't think Gleb is going to fucking, you know, smear his way. into your marriage, MJ? Wow, already we have a headline from Yahoo Entertainment, Hilaria Baldwin accused of diva behavior on Dancing with the Stars. She went, she went ballistic. Already. Already. I mean, it's all, you know, there's no source.

She went ballistic. Her furious producers gave, she's furious producers gave Jan, or is that Jan? I don't know, to Jen Affleck. She thinks her chances of winning are now dead Before rehearsals even begin She's not happy She ain't sleeping with Gleb She doesn't want to have Gleb

She's mad at Gleb She doesn't think Glebs good enough for her Well now I want to look up Gleb and see if Gleb is Well, oh, you want to bang Gleb Get over yourself This bitch wants to bang Glep All right, I'm sorry I made fun of your name Gleb Your Russian and Gleb is just a name I'm not familiar with

And you are handsome Yeah Yeah, he's fucking going to be Glebbing on to that relationship. He's not either of our types, to be fair. He looks like a Kendall. No, I'm saying he's more Eladi's type. Like, I feel like she would go for him. Yeah, Glebs not usually the me and MJ's type.

I'll throw that out there. Yeah, I'm way too much into Hilaria Baldwin's life right now because I do continue to follow her on Instagram. So it's like, it's so disturbing. I need to delete Instagram. I know that her kids just started school. I know that they took a plane ride this morning. I know, but this is what all Instagram is. I'm like, why do I know that this influencer's son just got a new bed?

It's making me feel dirty. I know. I barely look at it anymore. I just can't. I honestly, it's all snack fluencers. You need to be following snack fluences. Yeah, I've got to get your algorithm or Gideon's algorithm, which is just all snakes. I need to get out of this.

Snakes and snacks. And really, that's all you need on your social media. And also, I do, I follow a lot of gentle farms now so I can look at a lot of people like, you know, scratching on like a hairy cow. So. Yeah. Yeah. You could also join that side of the world, too. But I will say, don't throw all of Instagram in the trash, at least for the snacks alone.

How else are we supposed to learn about all of the Halloween snacks that are coming out? right now because they are giving me life mj tell me about the Halloween snacks because i um yeah that's not what i've been thinking about this week i'm going to be honest but thinking about some other things and i what but i think i need to know what the snacks are doing this year it's because you don't have any Halloween peelers in your life and i'm not going to get into the peelers right now even though i am excited about them already because they are all different body parts And you pull off the skin and then you eat the meat all the inside. Like, you're a little army hammer.

And it is scary, but they're all individually packed. But I won't eat those until later. And I just was really excited because I happened to find them. And, you know, sometimes finding a snack makes life worth living. Yeah. Peelers, we've litigated this before. It's the ones where that you have to peel a skin off of them. It's not something I enjoy doing.

My kids like them. I think it's gross. But I like fun, seasonal, you know, Halloween. I'm trying to think of what the things were when we were young. Like, I feel like it was not such a robust landscape of Halloween-themed snacks when we were young. It used to just the orange, the orange Oreos. Yeah, but like, like, I feel like there would be a couple of exciting, you know, exciting Halloween-themed projects, but really it was just the Oreos with orange filling. And they don't taste any different, but I'm not even going to get into the Oreo peanut butter collab, the Reese's collab.

We're going to talk about that next week. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for my scene to come because I think that he's going to really enjoy it. But now I'm just over here staring at pictures of Gleb and wondering which of the secret lives of Mormon wives you're going to be supporting in this venture. So there's a couple of different paths we could take from this starting off point of dancing with the stars because there is another story about Hilaria that I want to talk about, which is the New York Times profile of Alec Baldwin's Hampton's house, which is Haywold. And I don't have a New York Times subscription, so I have not read the whole thing, but I know some of the highlights. So there's that. But then also there's more Secret Lives and Mormon Wives News, which is Taylor Frankie Paul.

It's going to be the Bachelorette. And I'm so happy for her. I love Taylor Frankie Paul and all those other girls are just jealous of her. And I think that I, yes, she's crazy. And yes, she's mean. But, you know, that's what you're supposed to be on these things. Yeah. You know what?

I think that like my brain is getting all. I mean, I know it's because of the COVID. But I know that my brain is getting all weird because I've been watching by myself. I have swallowed like mulberry. multiple seasons of Real Housewives, so I'm of New York. And so I'm at the end of season six right now. And let's just say there's a woman named Aviva and let's just say she has a prosthetic leg and let's just say she throws said leg.

And I start thinking about like the evils of a Real Housewife franchise, right? And technically Taylor Frankie Paul is the evil. one. Like, I mean, I know that the edits are given the other ones, you know, Whitney's more evil one. But Taylor Frankie Paul is the one over and over again to keep coming out and being like, these bitches are all fucking snitches. She's not a girl's girl, I'll say that. She is not a, but I say all this, but I still kind of like her. I love her. Not a girl's girl whatsoever. I wouldn't want to be friends with her at all. She is, I mean, she's just so dynamic.

Like, I was trying to explain this to, like, when I tried to explain why Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is such a thrill to people who haven't watched it, I'm just like, she just, like, you know, she, I think this was litigated a lot in the most recent season of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, but she's really the founder, right? She should have the credit for bringing all these. The founder of the feast, indeed. Indeed. But, like, she kind of brought this all, all these bitches together.

And, but she, it's like, she's like, she's. really, um, uh, completely unpredictable. Um, absolutely zero regulation whatsoever. Oh yeah. No, none. Oh yeah. Will sabotage. We'll turn on you immediately. Turn on our best friends. Sabotage her family. Turn on her family. But also the family was coming at her pretty hard. Family is awful, right? But like she just, but, but, but, but she's so good at being mean. I love watching her being mean. And I know I, I, um, Okay, whatever. Is that toxic maybe? But she is so, she's so good at being mean.

She'll just like, you know, the art of like putting out just an insult and then kind of like shrugging and being like, oops, sorry. You know, it's like that type of boobs. I guess I had to say it. I love it. But what is she going to do to these poor big, dumb, like, they're all going to be big-headed boys that are on the bachelor. She's going to rip through them. It's going to be a crime scene. I hope they get every golden retriever.

I just want to watch them as to be like, but I could love you and I could be good for you. And she just like slashes them down, slashes them down. And I guess this is going to be a Bachelorette that I watch. That's the thing. I'm like, I literally don't have time to watch both dancing with the stars and The Bacheloret. I'm in a season of my life right now where I'm like pretty squeezed and pretty stressed out. And am I spontaneously crying multiple times a day?

Yes, I am. Well, yeah, you are. Well, what happened today during this episode, possibly. Maybe. You never know what it's coming. So I'm like, how will I fit in the hours a week of dancing with the stars with the hours a week that is the bachelor? Because they're both network shows and they both stretch. Oh, yeah.

They really padded out. And they're both shows that my husband will not want to watch. Oh, no. Therefore are not going to be at the end of the night shows that we watch together. And but I'm going to have to watch both because, again, I just, honestly, it always. Any of the other Mormon wives, I don't know if I would watch The Bachelor. No. But I do think that Taylor Frankie Paul is the most.

She's the special sauce. Charismatic one. Yeah. She's just such a talented bitch. But also Whitney is such a talented bitch, which is why I think I can't wait to watch her destroy Jen Affleck on dancing with the stars. But you know what it is about Whitney? And I admire how much how successfully she.

Got too much of a bitch face that she won't be able to be a good dancer because Jen Affleck will have the wow. Like she will have the face, wow, you know. Yeah. No, Jen Affleck's going to be a good dancer. Whitney is too, she's so uptight. Tight. She's very tight.

Tight. But like Whitney was very good at it, at being like, why is everyone so mad at me? Which is like a great skill for a bitch, you know, to be like, really, to be, to be mean to everyone for a year. I did nothing. And then come back, you know, you're the biggest bitch in high school, your freshman year. And then you come back your sophomore year and you're, and you're like, like everyone is treating me really horribly. And I'm different now, but like I'm not at all.

She did that expertly. So I am compelled by way. Her husband has a porn addiction, MJ. We have to give her some grace. He can't stop. He just needs to jerk it, jerk and jerk, jerk and jerk. I shouldn't make fun of porn addictions. I know porn addictions are real.

I just want to make fun of it in the show because, you know, it's Whitney and she's a bitch. Like men, I think, except for Dakota. And he's sad. That's where the porn addiction comes from. I mean, it's like that. He's got to go find it somewhere else. Yeah.

But, you know, I am going to surprise you with what I need to bring up next. And I did confess that this is pathetic, that this is my favorite sock brand. Okay. But I was very surprised that Pete Davidson is one. of the owners of my favorite sock brand, okay. And the reason why I bring this up is because I don't know if you remember a while

ago, but I was so excited because I found Day of the Week socks that were really good socks. And that was from this company. That was from this company. It is from this company Double Soul that I'm obsessed with their fucking socks. They make great socks

and they make great fun color socks. And apparently, Pete Davidson is one of the owners of, like he's like one of the buy-in guys. He's one of the money guys. And so he went with the founder of Double Soul. Pete Davidson did onto Shark Tank to go make more money for Double Soul. And I allowed went, that's my sock brand. And I then made fun of myself for how excited I got that I saw my sock brand was going to be on Shark Tech. Not mine.

I don't own it. Just socks I like to wear. No, I got to say, I was upset that you included this in the link. I thought to myself, I don't want to talk about this. But we are. And then here we are talking about it because I need you to know, MJ. They make great socks and they're great colorful socks. I guess that I want to say I'm glad to see somebody breaking up the monopoly that is

bombas. You have to. You have to. I know bambas are good socks, but they're so expensive. You have to. Are these socks less expensive than bambas? They are about the sameish. I think they're a little bit less.

This is better. They're less. This is better. I'm looking at bambas right now. And for a four pack, it's 50 bucks, which is astonishing. It's astonishing. For a five pack over here, it's 63 bucks. Maybe it's the same.

Yeah, it's about the same. They're just good socks. But you know what it is. Okay, but I will say the double souls last and their thickness lasts a lot longer than as someone that is worn boat. Because I remember you asked for bambas for Christmas, didn't you? From your mom. Am I misremembering? I feel like you like...

No, no. She gave me bambas that I didn't ask for. But they were re-gifted bambas. So don't worry. Well, I don't know why I want bambas to be taken. down a peg. They're great socks, but, you know, they don't have any fun designs. They don't last as long as the double sole. The double sole socks are thick and they also have really great patterns on them. They do have fun designs. I like fun socks. But so does

Bamba's suck. Well, whatever. But Bambas doesn't make that fun. No, they don't make as fun. They're not as fun. There's like one set of fun socks. Yeah, and they're usually for kids. Yeah. And they're always for kids. My feet don't fit in the kids. And yeah, we're talking about socks celebrity gossip. It's Pete Davidson's own socks. I'm allowed to say it. Pete Davidson is there. Yeah, you know, I, whatever.

Shark Tank is a show that I cannot possibly find myself getting into. But I do. That said, if something has been on Shark Tank, I, my stupid little brain goes, ooh, okay. And then I think it's good. See, this is the thing. MJ, when you and I are in hotels, we watch Food Network. When I'm in a hotel with Jeff, usually we'll throw in a shark tank

Because I feel like there's always food network And Shark Tank is always playing somewhere. Shark Tank is always on. Wow, there's an Ed Hardy collaboration with Double Soul. That's kind of fun. Oh, I mean, oh, good. I was like, where did Ed Hardy go? Yeah, the hands aren't so popular anymore.

Put him on the feet. Yeah, man. Puk those eagles onto my feet. Please. Yeah. I find myself now. I think I just really enjoy Pete Davidson. So I'll buy the stupid socks. That's fine. I like him. I enjoy him. We have friends that work very closely with him. And it's just, you know, everything. I'm happy that he's so excited to have a baby. They're both very excited to be parents. I think it's really good for him. And he seems like a generally, like, decent celebrity. Like, even when he was with Kim, I thought that he was like a pretty decent celebrity, you know. Like, I feel like he's good to her. Good to her. And like very reasonable. Like when Kanye was, you know, making all those threats on his life, Pete Davidson was like, this is. You know, I feel like he's just like a, yeah, I feel like he just is, he gives, he gives, like, decent guy vibes, um, as far as I can tell.

I saw him, he was trying to sell some, like, old big vintage car, I guess, on Instagram and that he, like, he's got this big fuck off truck, but, like, he's like, not good for a baby. And he just keeps, like, popping it and, like, making it go, like, and so he's trying to sell it on. He just seems like he's fun. Yeah, he seems like a nice guy. I do, I seem like I, uh, I want to hang out with him. And I think he's grown up a lot. I think that he used to be like, uh, more of an asshole, it seemed. But it seems like he's actually grown up a lot and really does take care of the people around him and like is, uh, genuinely a very good person.

Yeah. And, uh, we know that with great authority now. So isn't that wonderful? Yeah, that is wonderful. When we know that someone is good because we know personally, we know. We know someone. We know he's good. Confirm.

It can confirm. He's actually a good person. But may I make a sharp you turn back to the Baldwin estate in the Hamptons? Oh, yeah. Oh, you want to get to grill in, do you? That's the main thing. There was a couple of things. I'm trying to find the story about how there's like a portrait in the living room that Alec doesn't like,

which I am struggling to find the quote about it that's funny. but the super funniest piece, little nugget of information from this Times. And it's so annoying. They are so rehabilitated. The Baldwin's are just, all is forgiven, right? Ever since he was.

Is it? Is it? I mean, I'm not saying here at page seven, all is forgiven, but in society, she's getting exactly what she wants. She is having a massive, her press,

her star is rising again, you know? And so this New York Times, Let's take a tour. Let's take you for the first time. Let's take a tour of the Baldwin estate. Blah, blah, blah. It's in the Hamptons. Oh, I came here when I was getting divorced from Kim Basinger.

It was my happy place, blah, blah, blah. But the most fun nugget is that at this Hampton's house, there is a grill shaped like a little piggy that Ireland Baldwin gave to him because he called her a pig when she was a child. Yep. in that voicemail. Remember the voicemail when he called her disgusting little piggy? And so his daughter, because you thought it was funny, and I hope Ireland, you have gone through the therapy that you deserve to get through that to be able to go. Because also, it's a Trager Grill. Trigger Grills are not

cheap. Really? And to get what in the shape of a pig, I imagine is even more expensive. And The fact that they, you know, I guess I want to say good for their family for being able to like move on together through comedy as someone that, you know, hashtag search for new daddy. I do understand someone putting comedy into situations that maybe not all people see as funny. Right, right, right. But I, it's just, I feel like watching the Baldwin show, we really could see, actually, that Ireland is still not completely all. I mean, remember that weird lunch that they were all supposed to have that Alec Baldwin was supposed to be there at? but instead Hilaria shows up and had Alec Baldwin on like FaceTime. I know.

He didn't come to lunch with his own kid who was like an hour away in New York. I know. But I am like now, I'm like an Ireland Baldwin truther trying to figure out whether she's just saying she likes Hilaria or does like Hilaria. Oh, this is the truther, ah? Because she really like this people article about the little piggy, rude, thoughtless little pig grill. which is what I hope that they call it, which is what he called her in a voicemail when she was 12. And we're laughing,

but that's not funny, obviously. It's bad. It's like one of the worst examples of the many bad things Alec Baldwin has done. And she has joked about it at the roast about him. She said, I almost missed the roast because I haven't checked my voicemails in 12 years. Like she has had to kind of figure out how to joke about it.

But in this same article, she says, quote, Hilaria is the reason I'm able to have the close relationship with my father that I do. She's the reason that I get to have siblings and a big family that I've always wanted. She has always respected me, accepted my flaws, embraced me, and has always shown me kindness. I met her as a teenager and I needed her as an example. I still very much look up to her now. And, you know, she said she's excited for her to do a dancing with the stars. She deserves this. It's not my place to share the ins and outs, but this woman is a gem and deserves all my love.

Like I keep being like, is she lying? And this is just the art? Is she lying? Is she lying? Because it would be weird to be in your 30s and then suddenly get a bunch of siblings. And, you know, Ireland's daughter is the same age as hilarious and Alex youngest. So it's like, aha, it's funny. They're ants, but they're whatever.

And I know that happens. I used to teach two kids. Yeah, that happens. I used to teach two kids who were in kindergarten together. And one of them was the other's uncle. And it was so funny because the uncle was. would always be like, I'm your uncle. And they could be like, you need to stop doing that.

It was super funny. And so I know that that happens and everything, but like, I, it seems like Ireland Baldwin's relationship with her father has been healed in part because he married somebody who is almost her age. And she likes her. And I don't know if that is just PR and damage control. God, what a tough thing to come. back from being famous for being a child who was called a pig by her dad in a voicemail.

Like the fact that Ireland Baldwin is even remotely okay is a real testament. I know. That's what I'm saying. The fact that she's by in the ground, I'm like, I hope, then she must be okay. And govah. Yeah. You know, Govah, hopefully she got the work that she needed to get and is still getting. Yeah. I mean, yeah. So that's, yeah, that was the most fun fact we learned from the estate tour. I mean, at least to the point that I'm certainly not going to pay to actually look at the rest of it. Because, you know, I don't really care that much. So just give me the highlights.

Yeah. You know. Yeah. I know. I'm missing if I'm, I will see if I can find before the, before the show is over. I'll see if I can find the thing about the painting. But if not, you know, leave it in the comments somewhere. If there was any highlights that we missed in the.

Yes. please, for the love of kitchens. I do need to at least just throw it out there. I want to give big ups for the love of kitchens and the repair shop. This goes out to you guys because MJ, I don't know if you know this, but there's this, I think it's called Britbox that's on H.B., on Mox, but now it's back to HBO. HBO Mocks that there's a whole channel called Brit Box now. and they play shows like for the love of kitchens and I can't not say for the love of kitchens like that

because it's so the opposite of that sentiment of a show because MJ when you are just man not feeling good right and you just you just want the nice whispers of just some very beautiful British people and they are, they go into castles and they make kitchens and they go down to like they make the pull handles. They make the like every single part of this beautiful, oh my God, with the copper sinks and the and the lighting and they like come in and they do, but these people make these kitchens for people, whether you have just a little kitchen that you got to get remodeled two castles. And everything is set in tones like this.

And it is all so beautiful going through the estates. And I, it is Xanax in a show. This is, I'm so glad you're telling me this. Our pandemic watch. For the love of kitchens! Our pandemic watch was also a British show called World's Most Extraordinary Homes. Exactly. Exactly.

I still think about the pure serotonin I would feel upon sinking into the couch at the end of the long pandemic day. Yes. Parenting without help and then watching World's Most Extraordery Homes. Yes. And maybe that might not get into the tinkerer heart of your partner, but maybe the repair shop would. Now, the repair shop is all a bunch of people that have, they know. how to fix anything, and if anything comes in with a story, oh, don't you worry, they'll go through the cogs and they can fix it for anyone that comes in. No matter what the project is, they can

fix it. Fantastic. And you just, and my husband is a tinkerer of sorts and loves to watch people sit and tinker and I tell you, I, because Real Housewives for me is the Xanax that I crave, but a lot of people don't like that. And then leg throwing across the fucking room. That's not everybody's Xanax bag, but maybe for the love of kitchens could be. I cannot wait. Also, there's new bake-off. How will I keep up?

You have? All my friends say it's perfect. It's wonderful. It's perfect. It is, this is the place I am in right now. And sometimes I think you need to recognize when you're like, my brain can't handle anything else right now. So this is what I'm going to, you know what, I'm just going to nestle in. It's like a big, ooh, warm bowl full of butter, you know, just like get in there.

It's going to solidify eventually and that's fine. Yeah, no, maybe I can get the kids to watch Great British Bake Off. We watched some kids. Kid. We watched like kid great bitches bake off and they liked it. But maybe they would watch the adults. You also could watch Master Class Jr. Master Class Jr.

Or Master Chef Jr. Is that, is that, yeah, no. I love Master Chef Jr. But that's Gordon Ramsey, but he's nice to the kids. Nice. He's nice to the kids. And he's very, and it's like, it's wonderful. That's why I fell in love with Gordon Ramsey.

And I ended up going into everything else because I actually loved how he talked to the kids. He really respects the kids. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's, I... They all do. I like that they talk to them as if, like, I know you can do it. And, like, if they, like, for example, they had to, like, shuck these huge oysters and some of the kids' hands were just too small. And he would come over and be like, don't worry.

Like, and he would just come over, pop, pop, and be like, great. He's like, you're going to be able to do that in the future. And I'm so proud of you. And they'll, like, walk over to that. Yeah, I like that. It's, yeah, it's really great. I think that you would really like it. The problem is my kids are truly...

products of their generation. And when like I remember we watched Kid British Bake Off and kids got eliminated and the kids were like, what do you mean that they're going home? They don't get to stay. Oh, yeah, they do get kicked off. It is a competition. It is a competition.

Sometimes you do not win and you have to go home. Oh my God. You should get them to watch Kid Taskmaster. They started putting out a kid Taskmaster. That is great. What's the object of taskmaster? Oh my God, Taskmaster is my favorite, favorite, favorite show. And for all of y'all, if you've been wanting to get into Taskmaster,

definitely watched the last season that just came out because for the first time, there was an American on it, and it was Jason Mansuchas, and it was Per-E-U-R-Efect. He, like, vied to be on the show. He lost money to be on the show. You talked about it. He's perfect. Taskmaster is a perfect show. It is a panel.

It's not a panel show, but it's a British. show where comedians compete to do a task, but it's like silly tasks that it's like, how do you do this in a funny way? And then they are awarded points by the taskmaster and, uh, at a live show. And then they do like a live task at the end of it. It's another show that, man, you need to shut your brain off, put taskmaster on. Okay. If you don't want to think about anything and you can't handle fucking anything. Yes. Put Taskmaster on.

Okay. All right. Well, now I've got a wealth of British soothing shows to choose from. You're welcome. Well, Taskmaster's not soothing the way for the love of kitchens

is soothing. For the love of kitchens. It's just funny. Okay. But it also has like every British comedian that you love on. It's like, oh, if you love Bake Off, Mel and Sue

were on two different seasons and like Noel Fielding is on a season. Like, you get so many people. Yeah, man, Noel Fielding, because my love of Noel Fielding, really snuck up on me. At first, I hated him, and then the next thing I knew I loved him. Oh, my God, watch him on Taskmaster. Yeah. He's such a little weirdo.

Yeah. Yeah, I know. It really snuck up on me. Like, over the course of, like, one season of Bakeoff, I was like, I think I might love him. Oh, wait, was that your first interaction with, you never got, you were never like, Mighty Booch. You never did, like, like, IT crowd or anything. No. No.

No. Wow. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, Noel Fielding is real weird and real fun. Yeah, yeah. No, I think I might like it. Oh, I think, oh, especially with, oh, my God, with the long hair and the nail polish and, like, his, like, vibe outside of big, like, his, like, fashion is wonderful.

Okay, well, wait, while we're talking TV, can we talk hunting wives? I know I'm a little late. I'm sorry, everybody. I'll talk onto wives anytime you want to talk on wives. I know that many of you guys started hunting wives over the summer, but I better late than never. I did get to it. And man. And what do you think, MJ?

It is so good. It is so sexy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's everything you want. It's sexy. There's crime. It's like a bunch of people that you're like, I don't know if I like any of you.

And then you're like, oh my God, or wait, do I love all of you? Totally. And I love a like, you know, I love a like, oh, they're rich and they're bad, but you're rooting for them. I love a rich and bad show. Give me rich, bad people in a drama. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I think that some people were surprised with the amount of graphic sex scenes. Woman to woman sex. Yeah, give me that sephic. Make it graphic. I was not expecting how, I knew it would be sexy, but I was not expecting it to be so gay sexy. Barely it was originally written for stars, I believe. It was like written for another network that usually allows much more. And I'm surprised that Netflix kept it all in.

And I think that a lot of people are, I think a lot of people clutched their pearls. In fact, I even surprisingly, I'm not going to name the friend, had a friend that shut it off because it was just too much. Really? Like it was too sexy. And I was just like, I don't want to judge you right now. And if anyone could see the look that I had given, I was judge. And I know I shouldn't judge because here's the thing. Not everybody is that into sexuality and watching sexuality.

And I genuinely forget that, MJ, because I vibrate with horniness. Yeah. And I forget that not everybody does and not everybody wants to see that in their shows. Hunting Wives definitely is made for our age group. It is not made for. I don't think that is made for the use. I don't think that is, like, it is made for us. Yeah, it's definitely not made for the use and it's definitely not made for like our moms.

I don't think. Or is it? My mom watched an episode. I don't know if she continued. But I don't know. I'd have to ask her or do I want to? I wouldn't ask her. I mean, I don't know.

You could. But I was saying this. My friend of mine was going to go hang out with her mom back home. And I was like, don't watch Hunt. Wives with your mom. And she's like, oh, no, I'm not going to watch Hotting Wives. And she's like, although last time I was in town, she and her mom had watched normal people together, the Paul Meskell, Daysville. And I was like, how did you watch that with your mom? She's like, we watched it silently. And then we would just go on to the next episode. It was like,

I watched normal people and I was just like, ah, like I screamed the entire time. Yeah. I was like, why can I not place why I've been thinking about Britney Snow lately, but it's because we just watch pitch perfect. It's pitch perfect. Yes. And we were literally like, where's Britney Snow been? And bitch, she's all. She's in fucking hunting wine.

That's where she is. Yeah. It's great. It's hot. It's not a show yet. Don't watch it with your mom. Or your children, just watch it alone or perhaps with your partner. Maybe with your partner, my partner.

I just kept walking through and being like, what are you watching, girl? Yeah. And I'm like, come on over, baby. I'm watching hunting wives. It is just, I'm so glad that the exact type of book that I like to read, which is dark, sexy housewife mystery is becoming the exact type of book that are now being made into shows on Netflix. Yeah. Yes, yes.

So happy. We still haven't, have you watched the Thursday Murder Club yet? Or is it? No, I haven't. I haven't yet either. And I got the, but my mom was like, I have the book. Do you want it? So now I've got the book, too.

I hear the book is a lot better than the movie. Oh, no. I will throw that out there. I hear the book is a lot better. Well, it always is. Maybe read the book. Is it always? Not always.

Yeah, I guess usually. It often is. But. Man, sucks what it's not, though. You know, I do want to kind of trap you for a moment to talk about this rare brain condition where a woman sees dragons everywhere. Because I feel like this really is wild. Maybe it's not celebrity gossip, all right? Maybe it's not. It is kind of crazy that a person does have a rare brain condition where she sees dragons everywhere. I find, I found this very upsetting because ever since she was a kid, she would see dragons everywhere, but she was too afraid to tell anyone because she knows their hallucinations. Yeah.

But she is plagued by them. And this is a woman who's in her 50s. Yeah. And so she has spent her entire life being plagued by seeing dragons everywhere. Prosoporometamorphia. Lesions on the old brain. she sees faces in empty rooms. She sees motion in the corners of her vision.

She sees large insects crawling on her hands. So you're saying you're scared of this and it's not just that it's cool because she sees dragons everywhere. I'm scared of it because could you imagine being a kid and experiencing this and not telling anyone? No, I can't. She had full awareness that they were hallucinations, but she didn't know what to do about them. Yeah, it makes me think of weapons. Yeah. No, it makes you think of, you know, just, you know, when you, when you, when you're, when you're,

you're scared of talking about something. And yeah, I did include this because I am in the process of getting 13 whivers tattooed onto my leg. And I just feel like I'm worried that this is going to be my future. I don't know. You're going to be seeing dragons because you'll look down and see them on your leg. I know. But what if I start seeing them when I'm looking off of my leg?

What if like then I'm like, what if they start extending off of my leg? And then what? Then you get an MRI. Like this thing you did. Am I too old to start getting it? I, that I don't know. I'm not a neurosurgeon. I thought, MJ, you've been lying to me for 15 years.

But this woman got medicine and the dragons went away for the first time in her life. The dragons went away. For the first time the dragons began to fade. Yes, thank you. Thank you for letting me say this story because it is a nice story. Yes. And eventually she does get rid of the dragons. It is a happy, we would file it under happy news.

No more dragons. We would file it under Happy News. Congratulations, everybody. See, there's happy news out there. Does HappyNews.com? She's not seeing the dragons everywhere. I used to have... Oh, why? Oh, you need more Happy News, MJ? No, it's not there anymore. Or it's for sale. Good. I used to have a stand-up joke about Happy News.com because I had a friend who dealt with her anxiety by only reading Happy News.com. And I was like, I think that would make my anxiety worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But no, it's stuff. I feel, I mean, I still follow, I think it's like called like the good news movement. I've got still like some positive things that are on my Instagram that aren't just dogs that I stare at that I want to adopt. Yeah.

It's more than that on Instagram. I mean, sometimes it's smutty pictures too. So it just depends. Oh, we didn't talk about, uh, Kelly. Channing Tatum. We could talk about Tanning Tatum. I like, I like Killian Murphy saying that he has Romo relief of missing out. Love.

Oh, Killian Murphy. You're just, oh, you're just a soggy bear. Oh, you're just a bit of a soggy bag. I'll have another cigarette. No. In bringing up Channing Tatum does make me think of, we did want to bring up John Sina and Peacemaker because the season of Season 2 is fucking awesome. And right before this, MJ brought up that you started watching,

or that you were watching Peacemaker. And man, again, blockers, if you want to fall in love with John Sina, definitely watch Blockers. It is another stupid, it's just a stupid, like, teen comedy movie, but it's a very well-written, it's a well-written funny one. Yeah, I will, because now Gideon and I are both on the John Sina train. We loved Season 1 of Peacemaker. And, yeah, I've just, you know, John Sina is super not the type of guy I usually find myself attracted to.

but he's just such an Adonis that like I find it impossible to watch him and not be completely in love with him. Talk about also another person that, same person that I'm talking about, has interacted and worked with him and multiple times. And as nice as you fucking think he is, he goes out of his way for everyone around him. He like really goes out of his way for a lot of like helping kids with like the, you know, the wish kids. He goes above and beyond often. And he is genuinely a very good person. I love that. Oh, and I also saw Superman.

That was another thing I saw over the break. Oh, we need Superman. Do you cry at the end and think about me when I said, oh, my God, we need Superman? I did think about you. And I was like, this is why Jackie kept crying and saying, we need Superman. We need Superman. Yeah. We need Superman.

And we don't have Superman. So who's going to stop it? Yeah, it was great. And I think I might want to help us. MJ. Fuck if I know. Maybe real life John Sina, but I think I might want to kiss David Cornswet. I thought he was fantastic.

Man, I guess this, maybe this is the episode for it. I can't even believe it. He's another one watching the interview. So Jeff was telling, I apologize because I think I said this on here already. But Jeff was telling me, Jeff's a big Superman person. And Christopher, not since Christopher Reeves. Apparently, Christopher Reeves also went to, oh, I'm going to fuck it up. Juilliard and also, ooh, studied piano.

And so did David Corn Sweat. And they have, like, a lot of, like, similarities. But then also watching all the interviews with David Cornswet, like, he's really cool guy, it seems. Yeah. Yeah. He seems like he's just a nice guy. Like, it seems like he actually found someone that was, like, a stand-up guy. Yeah.

Yeah. I love it. Plucked from obscurity. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Christopher Reeve also just seemed like such a good guy. I was never really a Superman person. Are you married to one? I forget. I apologize. Yeah. He's like, he's more of a, I mean, his kind of ultimate superhero is Spider-Man. Okay. Okay. But, you know, I, one of my favorite books for a long time was the amazing- But he's not anti- Superman. Not anti- Superman. Yeah.

But Cavalier and Clay was one of my favorite books forever, which is, you know, about the, a fictionalized accounting about inspired by the real writers who created Superman. And I, yeah, so I was like, I actually think I might want to go down a little Superman hole. Like I forgot about, you know, the whole. Whoa, which one? Yeah, all right. Yeah, I'm going to dive right in. Go down a little Superman hole, dude.

Yeah. Like I forgot that because of like the entire premise and like the whole, you know, lore and origins of Superman both as the character and also the creators that it's like one of them, that there's kind of like an inherent politics to it, which is why it's so funny that everybody was like, why is Superman woke? Why is now? It's always been political. It's just kind of part of it in a way that it's like not necessarily part of, you know,

Batman or Iron Man or Spider-Man, even Spider-Man. I love, I love Spider-Man, but there's not like a, it's not, it's kind of, it's impossible to imagine Superman without having some set, some, some, some of the politics that, again, are just, he's an alien, you know, like he, he's sent here to do good. Like, you know, like, there's, this is the whole story. How are you going to tell the story without having something that, that people are going to accuse you of being too woke about? So I, I, I really enjoyed watching it. And after, you know, seeing all the discourse about it. And yet, between peacemaker,

and Superman, I'm like, am I had James Gunhead now? Whoa, you might be. Although I still will forever in my heart be against the fact that they turned the Tower of Terror into the Guardians of the Galaxy ride. And I'm sorry James Gunn. I love a Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm down, but you did fuck with the Tower of Terror. And that is something that I can never forget. but I know that's not James Gunn's fucking fault.

I mean, I imagine it has a lot to do with all of the mega amounts of money he was making while watching while making all of these things. But Peacemaker is so much fucking fun. Superman was so much fun. And honestly, MJ, I should get Jeff to send you. Jeff was starting to show me some more, like, because I really didn't know a whole lot about Superman. but like more of like the smaller stories like there's this one story where Superman goes and like is talking to it takes the time to like talk to someone that is thinking of of jumping off of a building and it's this like just this sweet just what a wonderful

like beautifully written moments of like his like human connection yeah and what he was always striving for was human connection and acceptance. Yeah. And oh, it's devastating MK. Yeah. Yeah, I think I, now I also think I might need to go watch the Christopher Reeves ones again because I think that would be really fun. Bro, yeah, let's get slippery for it.

Yeah, I'll say put that underwear outside of your pants. And I'm into it. Oh, God. Oh, that's not. That's, sorry, another great show, sorry, I guess it became a lot of talking TV. Another great show that I started watching that is another salve for my brain right now is the paper, which is the continuation of the office. It's like following the people that shot the office, like the camera crew, going to, like,

it's like following where the paper company. went into Toledo. Yes. And Oscar is the only overlapping character. And Domhall Gleason plays the editor-in-chief. It's about a small paper.

And I will throw it out there. It's giving a lot more parks and wreck than it is office. I have no problem with that. It's definitely more heartfelt. It's definitely building. Like, I think you can tell that the characters are going

I think it was, I'm like eight episodes deep and it's delightful. Yeah. It's not, it's not like, I've never seen this before, but I really like the characters they put together. I really like the vibe that they're putting together. It definitely gives me a like, aw, because like they're all trying. What? Oh, it's Pacaque.

Pachoc. Okay, that's fine. It's on the Pacaque. But it is another really, it's, I liked it. I think a lot of people I imagine. and you're going into being like, he'll never be the office. And it's not trying to be the office.

Yeah. And I also, we were just talking about Parks and Rec community and 30 Rock and what masterpieces those shows were. And I, apologies, I just never had an American office phase. I was too snooty because I was a British office person.

British office person. And I just, so I understand why people love the office, because obviously it's a great, you know, I understand it and the cast is great and I just like I don't have strong feelings about it but that might be a good way like I've seen enough of it and obviously I know what it's about I think I might be less upset about the paper because I'm not going to be holding it up to like the standards of how I feel about the office which is I know many people like that the office is their ultimate number one comfort show yes and there is this character Esmeralda who is man they're just letting her cook and I am really really enjoying it. Sabrina, and I apologize. I can't remember how you say your last name. Impacitori. I believe she is Italian and she was up for her supporting actress Emmy for White Lotus and the fun, weird

character that she is in it is just filling my my spirit of just like, let that bitch cook. Hell yeah. I love it. All right. Okay, that's fun. Yeah, this is nice. Also, you want to get Domhawgleason. You, right? We both want to just Domhawk Gleason, right? Yeah. No, I'm confused by my feelings about Domalgleason, but like, I know they're positive, but they're confusing. Oh, they're positive. Oh, yeah, ex machina. That's it. I haven't seen Ex Machina quite a while. Oh, my God. If you want to fall in love with Domhawgleason, have you seen about time? No. Oh, it looks like a rom-com. A rom-com with Bill Nye and Margo Robbie.

And Rachel McAdams. Whoa. That's all I'm going to say about it. Okay. Is it possible that I've only seen him in Ex Machina? Yeah. Maybe, but he's also in that sexy episode of Black Mirror or two. Well, it's not sexy.

I just think Dom Hoggleason's very sexy. And also he's in, do I shi? this hot guy or do I shut up this hot guy that Brooklyn with Sir Sharonan. Yes. He was the hot guy. He was the overseas hot guy. She wanted to fuck. I continue. I could get you to want to fuck Dom Hall Gleason in so many avenues. Yes. No, you can't. I continue to have not seen Brooklyn the movie, but I have read the book. So I, whatever. God, that was based on a book. Yeah. Yeah. Of which hot guy do I fuck? And then they turned that into a book. movie? I don't remember much about the book, to be honest. All I remember is that she was Irish.

That's literally all I remember. And then it's fine. You know, so that's a good amount of it. I got nothing else to say. I don't remember anything. I just remember making a lot of jokes because the other guy reminded me of a, never fear. Brooklyn is here. The guy from Newsies. And I was like, well, that's the guy from Newsies. So you either want to fuck the guy from Newsies or Dom Hall Gleason. Go, fuck down, please it. Sorry, I'm talking about a movie from a hundred million years ago, Jackie. But we all know the movie I'm talking about. I've been bringing it up since the beginning of time.

And also, something else. I didn't even know you could do it, MJ. How would you feel if your 12-year-old came home with a piercing through their finger? So it's like, it is a skit. Like, it's just like the, you know, I don't know what that that's called. Like, you know, an outside. It's like a cursory. One.

We're talking about Kim Kardashian. We're talking about specifically Northwest Kardashian, who I just keep forgetting she's 12 because I feel like I keep seeing pictures of her everywhere. And I'm like, wow, 12. when you're that rich is just so different than me when I was 12 so I keep forgetting

that Northwest is only 12 years old and she got a dermal, transdermal. Is that the word? Transdermal is a more descriptive word. Yes, I was like so just through the skin

of her finger how do you feel about that? Oh, I'm looking at the picture now. You know, I will say this. Every time I see a story about Northwest Kardashian, I feel like a sinking sense of dread, and I can't quite pinpoint it. She is, you know, me, I've become a little bit dogmatic

about, like, not trying to say bad things about kids and celebrity kids. I know, she's a child. And I'm talking about, that's why I was asking more of, like, how would you feel, yes, the parenting. But I think the sinking feeling I feel when I think about Northwest has to do with by fear of how the discourse will evolve around her now that she is a tween and a teen. And I think, and, you know, also she's obviously Kanye's kid. But there's just, and, and, and Kim just parades her around.

And there's no protection for, for Northwest's privacy whatsoever. And of course, it's like, her outfits are scrutinized and her look is scrutinized and her behavior is scrutinized. He's 12. Even honestly, the fact that there is the, like, very, like, zoned, it, like, the zoomed-in picture of the finger to be like this 12-year-old. And I'm just like, honestly, even as I bring it up, I'm like, she is 12. Yeah. She is 12. Yeah. She is 12. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I don't know. A lot of people are like, you know, minors can't get piercings, but that's not true.

Obviously, minors get their ears pierced all the time. But yeah, no, I don't, I, I just, I feel so scared for Northwest's like mental health as she ages in between and teenhood in the public eye. I feel like, like, you know, it's certainly not analogous at all, but because they were, they're kind of of the same age, like watching the way that Beyonce has managed Blue Ivy's public persona and North's, which is obviously like Blue Ivy very much is a public figure now as well. Right.

And now she had her younger daughter. or going on tour with them as well. And she was subject to so much scrutiny. And I was really torn on that because I think it's like in so many ways like so beautiful and moving to watch Blue and to watch Blue work with her mom and like perform with her. And she's obviously very talented and is an incredibly talented dancer. And I love seeing the little behind the scenes of them working together and stuff. But yeah, the other part of me is like, let them be kids.

And, you know, even when like the extremely weird, you know, over, like, what's the word I'm looking for? Parassocial response to like Beyonce having her younger daughter on stage and how everyone was talking about her and analyzing her. I was like, just leave her alone. Like, keep her out of the public eye. So I just kind of want North to be out of the public eye more. And I feel like it's weird that Kim kind of like parades her around and not any of the other kids as much. I don't know. I feel so weird about it.

But I feel so weird about it. And also I don't like, I try to avoid the Kardashians in general. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know what teenagehood is going to be like for North with the parents that she has. I think it's going to be, I don't think anyone, I don't know who's looking out for Northwest right now. I don't. Yeah. I'm not trying to accuse Kim of being a bad mom.

I think she is a loving mom. But in terms of just, again, being in the public eye, we have read enough celebrity memoirs now to know that being in the public guy when you are that young is profoundly damaging. Yeah. And so, yeah, I feel worried about. Because that's a thing that I do feel like Beyonce does very well curate where blue, like, like, where her children are viewed. Very.

Yes. It's like when you're with me, you are a public figure. Right. And I think that, like, that I think is a big difference. at least it seems in how they go about with raising the children that Kim would like is more keeping the kids out in front, especially like with the reality show and everything. It's like they're all a part of all of that stuff that I feel like it's in a way that they're not protecting the kids in a way that even though Beyonce is working with her children,

I feel like they are more protected. I totally agree. Yeah, I think she is. I think that Beyonce, like I, yeah, I totally agree. just what you said. I admire how Beyonce has handled her kids fame. Yes. And I think that she,

it seems like what she's trying to do is like teach Blue Ivy like skills, you know, and like cultivate her talent, you know? Right. I don't think that that's what Kim is doing with North. That said, listen,

if you have a 12 year old who comes home with a random piercing, it's very 12 year old behavior. I'm not judging. Oh, yeah. I don't think it's, yeah, don't think it's more, yeah, like,

that's why the question was more of like, what are you going to do? when Freddie comes home with a dermal piercing? Like, how do you act with that? Like, do you go, like, take it out? Or do you say, well, it doesn't always take? So I guess we have to see if it takes or not. Or would you give permission for, like, if Freddie were 12 to get a dermal piercing,

if you know it might not take? I would be like, congratulations. You've gotten over your fear of needles. Now let's get our vaccines. Let's get our vaccines. No, let's get it. We're doing our vaccines, even though we are afraid of needles. Oh, it sounds like it's more fun, though, huh?

It's very, oh, yeah, no, I'm not over here thinking about how will I even get them in the door to get the COVID and flu vaccines this year? Hell yeah, hell yeah. No, I just, you know, I feel like there's, there's like such a pattern of like, how do we, how are we going to scrutinize this person going through like the very awkward transition from childhood to teenagehood? And then it's Northwest. And so we all have our massive feelings about her dad. And we all have a bunch of feelings about her mom. And we project those feelings onto her. And that's just a 12-year-old kid.

And, ooh, it's going to get ugly, I feel like. It is going to be a rough transition. As all the kids, as all the kids become teenagers, it's going to be quite a thing to watch in the next 10 years. And I'm, you know, I'm going to say I'm scared for all of them, but what are you going to do, you know? I guess I'm scared for a lot of things, including the fact that, yeah, eating cheese can cause nightmares. If you were wondering if a new study had come out and said, does eating cheese cause nightmares?

And that the answer is yes. And what I did say about that is the nightmares persist. And so will my cheese intake. Yeah, listen, the nightmares are going to be happening anyway. Okay, okay. We're in a timeline of nightmares. You may as well have cheese. Give me that cheese. You give me that cheese, y'all. You give me that cheese. I ain't stopping the cheese. No, no, no, no. It ain't stock. You can't stop. You can't stop. The cheese. Hey, yeah. That's our second hairspray reference of the week. Yes, it is. But how about the fact that KJ. Appa said that they were all fucking and suck in on the set of Riverdale, Jackie? They were all fucking and they were all honestly, okay, Kijie Yipa came out, this is now years later, saying that everyone in Riverdale was all sucking and fucking on each other.

And honestly, it's given me Taylor, Tilly, Taylor Ruby Frank right now. I feel like it's given like a, oh, you're trying to come out and be like, everybody was fucking everybody. It is a Taylor Frankie. What's your name? Thank you, Frankie, Frankie, Runky, Rumpy. Once again, you said it wrong and now I can't think of the right. Yeah, good. I'm glad.

Taylor Frankie Paul. Taylor Frankie Paul. It's because I keep getting her fucked up with, what is it? Ruby Frankie. Ruby Frankie. And that's a very different person. But same state. Same state.

When you told me Taylor Frankie Paul, I thought you know Ruby Frankie was going to be the Bachelorette. And I was like, MJ, we can't be talking about this. If she's the fucking bachelor, we cannot be talking about this. The mom who changed her children to a radiator is the new bachelor. She needs a new boyfriend. No, you're right. The way that if you're not familiar with Taylor Frankie Paul and her origin story,

that she literally just made a TikTok being like, we're all suck at and fuck at each other in MomTock. And then all the other MobTock people were like, wow. Way to drag us into this. You just fucked us. And it is kind of funny that KJ was like, well, they were all sucking and fucking. But he doesn't implicate himself.

Although he does say what I like is he's like, I showed up just a good Christian boy. I just showed up just being a Christian boy. Let me see if I can. I was a virgin. I was a virgin when I started on that show too for the first couple years. I was a brown Christian boy.

boy. I'm sorry. M.J. Is KJ. Epa here? There's exactly one phrase I can say with a New Zealand accent and it is channeling. It's KJEPA. But it's also the channeling a New Zealand guy that I knew during

the time of flight of the concords who got very tired of people saying that he sounded like them and he would say, I don't sound like them. So like I can say that phrase but it's harder to export it to other phrases. But yes, he says I was a Virgin when I started on the show for the first couple of years. I was a proud Christian boy I was.

And then he went on to say, you sort of just have sex with them. And then you sort of see what happens. He sort of just have sex with them. Honestly, yeah. Think about this. You know, we talk about showmances all the time. Of course. You think you're new, like he came, like he came to America for, I don't think he was in America for a long time beforehand. He's like fresh here. And he's put on this sexy show with a bunch of sexy people. Of course they're all going to be fucking each other. And they weren't teens, but they were like early to mid-20s. So yeah, they're horny.

Yeah. They're going to be fucking. And we know that Lily Reinhart and Cole Spouse were fucking. And we know that Camilla Mendez and Charles Melton were fucking Reggie. Yeah. Reggie for those of you who never knew Reggie's name. And then a bunch of people were like, ain't no way KJ Appa is not also fucking Camila Mendez.

I hope that they were all fucking, man. I hope so. I would watch every single last tape. Also, I hope that all the adults were fucking each other. Like, I hope that all the parents were fucking each other. Oh, my God, Mark Consuelos and his fucking wife in it. And I'm not talking about Kelly Rippa. Hermione.

Hermione. Oh, my God. I hope they were fucking. I hope Molly Rengwald got some action. Oh, my God. I hope Skeet was fucking. I hope Skeck and on. Shack.

Oh, God, who was it? Who was that sex pot? There was just a story about. Skeet Ulrich wasn't there. Somebody sent me a cute story about Skeet Ulrich being a cute dad. What was it? He's just a nice hot dad, but I don't remember. Just a nice hot dad, huh? Tell me more about it. Man, I just love me some skeet, skeet. Love him. Love him. I miss him. The only, you know, him and Daddy Charlie from Twilight. You know, those are the cops. We want to be having sex with and it wasn't Skeet's fault alright, a serpent never sheds its skin

we can't just be sitting here talking about Riverdale we do got to get out of here We gotta get out of here are you gonna eat your Peelers? Oh I thought I was gonna go I was like what do I have to eat my hat about? I thought I was like what did I do What have I done wrong? You gonna eat your hat now? To eat your hat. No you got it's time to eat my feet I'm sorry

Gotta eat my feet gotta eat my feet. Now, they're all individually wrapped, by the way, for the Halloween peelers, and they're all different. That's good. So you know nobody put a needle in it when you give them out for trick or treat. Which is good, but there's only one in the trick or treat.

Honestly, this is pretty expensive to be given out for a trick-or-treating. So I don't know if you're, I don't know if you're going to be trick-or-treating these guys, but I am ripping the foot. Now, it's hard to rip the outside off of it. Yeah. And it's hard to not get.

So I try to like pull it complete. Oh, God, ew. It does look yucky because it does look like meat and skit. Like it does look like I'm eating sinning underneath the feet. So I'm ripping off the skin of the feet. And I'm turning the foot inside out to see if I can just corn on the cob. God. Ew, I hate it.

I hate peelers. I hate it when they look like mangoes, much less when they look like fucking feet. the peel. Are you eating the peel? Oh, she's eating the peel. There's a tongue on my tongue. She's eating the skin. What am I going to do your shoes? You start by, it's like, so it looks like, listeners, it looks like she's eating like the muscle and tissue of the inside of the foot. And then she eats the skin. Bro, if you've got kids that like spooky things and you want them to feel like they are ripping the skin off of a little foot or off of a brain.

Get yo ass these Halloween peelers. That is so much more fun than pulling apart a mango or pulling apart a little bonani. I love. Oh my God, they've got ears. They've got fingers. MJ, this is perfect. And I love them. I'm torn.

My kids might love it and they might be like deep. disturbed, it could really go either way. I'm going to have to see. You might need to try it regardless, though, because I love putting the skin of a foot on my tongue. Yeah! I hate it. Jackies, Snackies. I'm a snackie girl. I'm going to eat some chips. I am going to eventually remake that theme song. I, but do I forget a about it every single week until I say, oh, we're going to play this theme song. Yep, I certainly do. And that's going to be another week of it, too. I guarantee. I love, I love, what, are you going to remake it with you singing it? Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. But I kind of want, if I'm going to do it,

I kind of want to do a full, like, you know, like, um, add a lot of verses to it. Music video. Like, I want a full, like, yeah. I want to be like, um, and like, I'm a freak. Yeah. And I know I want it bad. Like I want to be in like eight inch stilettos not able to walk on them singing the Jackie Snacky's theme song for everybody. And people be like, why is she all wet? Is she trying to do like what Sabrina did with the Britney thing? It's like, no, I think she's just all wet.

And I'm just like getting hit with a hose. Shout out to Sabrina for, you know, having a bunch of like protect the dolls and trans rights stuff on stage with her. God, that was amazing. Absolutely wonderful. And it really was, the VMAs were interesting. And it really was given a lot of millennial. That was what I meant to ask you, how you felt about Mariah. We touched on it on the yesterday's show. Mariah, she sang. She stood up. And she doesn't move her body. She's absolutely perfect. She only moves her mouth. Sometimes she might move a hand if that. But it definitely always looks like she is robotronic. And she complained about not getting an award earlier.

Already complained of like never. But also, I mean, it is kind of crazy that she hasn't gotten one. It is crazy. And Buster Rhymes too, I was like, you're right. You should have gotten one earlier. You're both right. You're both absolutely right. But yeah, I was very happy to see Mariah drag herself out out in public for that.

That she did great. And yeah, Sabrina did great. It looked, yeah, it was fun. VMAs were fun. Yeah, they were fun. And yeah, Sabrina is just. Absolutely killing it. And also for those of you that people are like,

there was a lot of things that are like, oh my God, Taylor's totally overshadowing Sabrina Carpenter's month. It's her month. She's dropping new music. But then you also look that like, but Taylor Swift also has her featured on a song on Life of a Showgirl. So it's like this is all of it together.

It's all of it together. All of it together. That was a blind. They're supporting each other. That was manufactured, I think. I think that Sabrina is doing just fine. I think you're doing you. It's fine. Unlike the two of us, we're just making it through the week.

And y'all, thank you so much for hanging out with us on our second helpings. Sorry that I still sound a little yuckier than usual. But I just want to say thank you for putting up with it through the episode because I want to be talking. Yeah, we have. I miss you guys. I'm all alone. I know. We miss you guys so much. We had so much to catch it. on. We didn't even get to talk about Cardi B's many wigs. Oh, my God. Oh, and the fact that

Cardi B. Up for Assault, that whole trial, and then she goes outside and she didn't like what the guy was, the reporter was asking her, so she throws a pen at him. She is on trial for assault.

Respect women. I love her so much. She's just another one of those that I know, I know. But I love her. If you have not watched the montage,

of her on trial, do yourself a flavor, man. She's so funny. She is just so funny. And she's, a reminder also that Cardi B is incredibly smart. You know, she did like all these great interviews with Bernie back in, was that, God, was that 2016 or 2020? I don't remember. But she's like really, I really admire her as a person. Obviously, she makes, you know, I don't, I'm not endorsing all the choices she's ever made in her life. Oh, the past. And there's, yeah, she made some. I just, I just, I just find her such a compelling person. And I love, she came out, the guy asked her a super disrespectful question. And she grabbed a marker from somebody else and threw it at the guy and said,

respect women. Respect women. And man, she's great. Love her. Absolutely love her. Yes, there was so much to get up on. We miss you guys so much.

We're so happy to be back. And yeah, we live in a bad timeline right now. And yeah, it's been a hard week. But, you know, I guess we're going to watch. Yeah, when I'm pregnant,

I'm very disabled. True. The fact that she said, when I'm pregnant. I'm very to say, I just, and she goes on to be like, we're not pregnant. I can't do anything.

It's true. I can't. Like, I had a disembic. I love her. And yeah, we're just going to keep on, keeping on, guys. We're going to watch,

what is it, world's most extraordinary kitchens? For the love of kitchens. For the love of kitchens. And we're going to, we're just going to, we're going to be good to ourselves. we're going to be good to other people and we're just going to keep on keeping on guys we're going to

keep on fighting the good fight and there are good people out there and we are all together in this and we've got this we're just going to keep fighting guys i love you guys so much thank you for hanging out with us during our second helpings this week thank you so much mj for letting me eat my feet in front of you bro i didn't you know i can't just eat my feet in front of anybody and I'm glad it could have been you. I'm disturbed, but it's okay. That's the way I like to keep you. Let's sing the song, MJ.

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