Page 7 - Second Helpings - The High Holy Holidaze

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

Jackie and MJ are back for this post Springsgiving Second Helpings! Talkin' 'bout "America's Psychic Challenge" and the beautifully tacky psychic and magic docuseries of the 90's of 2000's that have Jackie WANTING TO BELIEVE, then Jackie get's into how hawt she got for the double dose of Michael B. Jordon in "Sinners", but before she can finish MJ tries to move things along to Season 2 of "Andor" on Disney+.  Elizabeth Hurley opens up about her relationship with Billy Ray Cyrus and her... close working relationship with her OWN son, a whole new swam of celeb books are headed our way, and MJ and Jackie break down Kim K's totally understated Easter celebration for her kids, that really shows she's just like us.  Ben Affleck shoots down his son's request for 6,000 dollar Dior Air Jordan 1's, AND SO MUCH MORE!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The dulcet tones of second helpings chug a chug a chugging right into your ear space. Welcome everybody at second helpens. Welcome everyone. Jackie, you know what I realized is that I didn't ask you at all about your Springsgiving. Happy belated spring's giving. Wow. Thank you so much for bringing it up. I appreciate that. Yeah, I think that we on the last episode did talk a good heaps amount about 420, which did happen to fall on Springsgiving this. year. And thank you for asking. Honestly, MJ, we had the most successful Springs giving to date. Wow. It was, it really was just absolutely wonderful. Everybody came, you know, we all, we had Easter eggs, friends, like a friend of ours got like gnomes for all the kids and then they like cut out huge flowers and all the kids were like decorating the flowers to make a garden for the gnomes. It was technically a very, well, I was going to say wholesome day, but we were ripping, ripping blunts in the front of the house, far away from the children. And we were celebrating all the high holy holidays and we had a great time with it.

Thank you so much. How was your Springsgiving, MJ? Do you, did you pitch Springsgiving to the house or are you keeping it in the shadows because you're scared of its strength? We have not yet officially started calling it Springsgiving. Oh, scared of its strength. You know, that I think that for my children, Thanksgiving doesn't have, they don't think of Thanksgiving is the best holiday, right? Because there's no stuff. They don't like to eat.

And so it would be a hard sell. But we had a good, we had a good time. Could you call it like Springs miss? Maybe you call it Springs miss and then you get an extra Christmas. Because I mean, I don't know if this is too much to ask, but I know that do you guys celebrate both Passover? and Easter. Correct. Okay. So does the Easter Bunny visit your home? Yes. The Easter Bunny does visit the home. Although, how do you feel about lying to the children? Well, I feel great about it, but I'm... I love it. I think we should be lying more to them. Honestly, I say we go back. Yeah, yeah. I am an enthusiastic liar, but I live with somebody... I'm an

enthusiastic liar. I live with someone who's very alarmed by the concept of lying to the kids because he didn't grow up with it. So he didn't grow up with either Christmas or Easter. And so, and I guess, I don't know if he had the tooth fairy growing up. That's a non-denominational magical person who comes to the house, but he's uncomfortable with all of it. Oh, wow. Okay. All right. So you are a lone bunny out in the field. So like, yeah, we like went to like when we woke up, there was an Easter egg hunt because the Easter the Easter bunny had visited our home. And then we went to the park to see friends. And there was another Easter egg hunt there. And my husband was like, what do we tell them?

And I was like, I don't, what do you mean when we tell them? And he was like, well, did the Easter buddy do this? And I was like, I mean, if they ask, we'll just tell them that our friends set it up. And the Easter buddy came to our house and then we decided to do another one here. And he was like, I don't understand how this works. I don't understand the rules. Oh, no. He starts spiraling.

You're like, you can't start spiraling. Then I'm going to start spiraling. And then you're both spiraling. And it's Easter, but is it spring's giving? Yeah. Man, so you're right. You can't introduce the concept of a new holiday to Gideon. I don't know if you can handle it.

Yeah, I think that it's not one. Another one? Wait, you're just making it up? No, we're not ready. As opposed to all the other ones that were not just made up. You know, you're talking about being a great liar, and I would be remiss not to bring up an honest liar that I learned about this week, and that would be the amazing Randy.

Now, MJ, I talked off mic to you last week a little bit about, Jeff and I's current foray into the world of America's psychic challenge. That is a television. It's a reality television show from the year 2007. And it is making psychics on television in 2007 compete using their psychic abilities to compete for points to continue in advance through reality. You know, it's surprising to me that psychics can work like that. that you could work in competition and that you can be like quantified in that manner. And I'm laughing because I don't think that any of them are real psychics.

And I have, I started talking about my beliefs about psychics to Jeff. And he's like, well, yeah, I mean, then he starts expounding on the world and life of Harry Houdini. Right. Because my husband remembers everything that he has ever read and has ever heard. and I love hearing him orate about a subject. I'm like, okay, yeah, tell me about Harry Houdini. And he starts talking about how Harry Houdini, like, one of the huge works of his life was debunking psychics. And talking about, like, he specifically didn't think that mediums and psychics existed

and wanted to show the world, especially people that were hurting people because they were creating false connections and trying to use it to gain money. And so this, in turn, inspired the Amazing Randy. And The Amazing Randy was this, there's a documentary about him called an honest liar. And The Amazing Randy, who is now a queer icon, who his whole life's work, he went from being a huge, very well-known magician on television and everything, to starting to also debunk psychics because he was so sick. of watching the charlatans, like the people running like the mega churches and stuff like that that were claiming to heal, be like the televangelists and stuff like that. He would go and follow this one specific huge medium that like apparently science had quote

and quote said was like a real psychic. And he would follow him from city to city after he would do a live show and he would show how he was doing it because he's like, it's just magic. Psychics are using magic to hurt people and I want to take them down. But the best part about The Amazing Randy is that he was like, I believe in the paranormal. If you can, he's like, please prove me wrong. Make me not prove you wrong. Like I would love that.

I would love to see that it is real. Amazing Randy looks like a cool guy, man. I googled him. I love his love. Bro. Bro. And it's so. the doc was so, it was the dock that came out in like 2014.

And actually Adam, amazing Adam from, I'm calling you the amazing Adam. You're just like the Amazing Randy, Adam, except in almost no ways, except you both have great beards. But Adam was like, you guys have started watching America's psychic challenge. And we were talking about Harry Houdini. Now, Jeff knew about the Amazing Randy, but we hadn't watched a doc. So we watched the doc. And wow. At first I was like, man, that's kind of like, it's shitty, just like blowing up everybody's spot.

But he was so, like, he truly, and he was, he was like, I'm saving people's lives. These people that, especially the elderly people that were giving their life savings to like a televangelist, that wasn't doing anything. That was doing like literally the movie leap of faith. And like, but it was before the movie leap of faith. So it was when people were really truly feeling and like knowing all of this. But he was crazy because, man, the Amazing Randy, he looked old when he was on television in like the 60s. And he just died. Yeah.

Like not that long ago. He died in 2020 at the age of 92. So yeah, we're talking a pioneer. And he was still going, bro. He was still going. And America's Psychic Challenge, I would love to have seen the Amazing Randy go on here and be like, oh yeah, you guys are psychic. I and just like take them all down take them all down take them all down and I think I feel similarly to the amazing Randy I want to believe in it oh yeah I do I want to believe in it

I would love because I am a person that like I'll I mean I get my tarot cards read I'd love to check out a psychic so that's why when Jeff first started telling me about Harry Houdini he was like wait wait am I married to someone who hates all psychics and he's like I hate ones that take money from people and lie to them. And I was like, okay, I understand that. I get that. Do you remember this is unlocking a memory of a show that for some reason I exclusively watched at my grandma's house with my brother when we were kids, which was crossing over with John Edward? Do you remember that show?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I would love to watch that motherfucker get debunked. Yeah. So fast. You know it's fake. Yeah. He needs to get amazing randied in a big way because, again, it was so.

vulnerable. Like he was, it was literally like, tell me about your dead loved one. And I will tell you. And, you know, it was all the classic, you know, did you guys have like, just say, you know, pull out any like random thing that might apply to any loved one or family. Like, she loved to laugh. Yes, she did love to laugh, you know. And but like, like it was that 90, I guess it was the odds, but it was like that, you know, daytime. It looked like Mori, except instead of fighting about who's the daddy, it was like, like, I'll talk to your dad relatives. And it captivated me. And also, we thought it was very funny that he had the same names as John Edwards, the politician. Ha, ha. I mean, well, and that's the thing. What's so fascinating is I'm going to completely botch this story because it's so funny, me trying to explain Jeff's perfect memory while I'm just a stoner that, like, half remembers stuff.

But I'm like, oh, wow, that's crazy. So essentially, here's my stoner remembrance. Harry Houdini was really, really close with his mother. And so he was like, all right, I'd love it if a medium could, okay, you can do it? You're saying you can do it? Connect me to my mother. I want to talk to my mother again. And the first thing that, like, this one other, like, huge dude was like, this psychic is definitely a great psychic, definitely knows the shit.

So he goes to this medium, right? And he starts connecting and he starts talking to his mother. and on top he draws a cross and then he starts writing as if from his mother Dear Harry And then he's like he's like well I know that this is false He immediately stops and he's like I know that this is false And he's like what are you talking about?

He's like my father was a rabbi My mother was married to a rabbi And she never spoke English And she didn't call me Harry Because Harry's not my real name Harry Houdini is a stage name So wow done And it's like all right immediately

all right, next. And just that kind of shit where it's like, you're right. And these people were making a full living, especially back then. They could get away with almost any, you know, almost anything. Oh, yeah. Well, and like we were talking about this. I think not on a main feed show, but I think on celebrities, how like the most appealing part of organized religion is the afterlife to me.

And like, so it's just like there's just something so particularly vulnerable about and particularly cruel about being like, yeah, I can kind of. connect you to your dad loved ones because, like, of course everybody would want that, you know? Like, I, like, I would be extremely vulnerable to that. And so it's like, I think when I was watching crossing over with John Edwards as a kid, I think I was probably a little smug about it. Like, idiots, why they think he's talking to the dad. And now that I just, like, have a little bit more compassion in my heart, I'm like, I would absolutely, if this weird man told me that he could talk to a lost loved one, I would be like, sign me up, buddy. You know,

So it's like, and it's just such a particular grift. You're so right, because it is a back and forth. And I do feel that way where it's like, well, I mean, I guess it is providing a comfort for a person, but it is lying to them. Right. So, but also we all lie. You know, it's like we all lie about little things. You were just talking about lying your kids. It's like they're all, it goes all different ways.

but man, if there's one way the movie The Sinners was going, that's into my pants. Oh, okay. Wow. What a transition, Jackie, is what I just said. Everyone wants to talk about the sinners. Talk to me about the sinners, dude. Bro, bro, we went to go see the sinners. And we went to go see the sinners with like, we went like 15 deep to go see sinners. And it was awesome.

We were in a full, like full movie theater, but like one of the movie theaters, not in the fancy seats. So you know a movie's good. If you hit one of the big three in Burbank, AMCs, and you see a hit movie and it's not in the fancy seats, that means that movie is sold out everywhere. It was insane, MJ. There was no parking in any of the parking lots on a Tuesday. And I was like, is this?

And literally the only movies out right now are Minecraft and Sinners. I was like, is everybody here to see the sinners? But I think everyone was here to see sinners. and I loved it because, bro, you know what's better than Michael B. Jordan? A two Michael B. Jordans, two Michael B. Jordans. Have you seen the trailer of this movie? No, all I know, you told me that there's two Michael B. Jordans, and I was like, I don't understand that. So, yeah, no, I know nothing. I'm a blank slate. I know that it's Ryan Coogler, and I know that it's Michael B. Jordan, and I know that's a dream team.

Oh, it is certainly a dream team that, man, they dreamed right all over my face. I will say that I think that people that were there more for like horror, because it is definitely like the trailer, it looks like most of it is going to be like a crazy vampire movie. And here's the thing, it's a great vampire movie. It's not a crazy vampire movie, though. It really does all kind of settle more towards the end. and by then you were so into all the characters that, like, I was just invested. The music is insane. And, man, Michael B. Jordan.

You know, the thing is that I was talking to some friends and, like, I heard their feedback on it. And I understand it's not a perfect movie. But maybe, if you are looking at Michael B. Jordan for two and a half hours, I know that you shouldn't just horny your way through a movie. But MJ, both Michael B. Jordan's fuck in the movie. And they both fuck just great. They don't.

They don't fuck each other, right? No, they don't. I was crying for a white lotus there for a second. But I'm glad it didn't happen. We can't just be white lotus in everywhere. We can't start expecting that. And I'm glad they didn't because I didn't want them to actually kiss each other because they're brothers and that's disgusting.

But if it was like, you know, someone he just met. and they happen to look a lot like, maybe then they could start kissing. In every conflict, there's at least one bitch. A huge bitch, a silly bitch. A little baby bitch, a raggedy bitch. But sometimes it's unclear who the bitch is. I'm Kara Klank.

And I'm Jackie Zabrowski. And on our new Colin Advice podcast, we're going to help you figure out who's the bitch. We want to hear your problems, dilemmas, and quandaries. No topic is off limits. Does your co-worker flirt with the boss to get ahead?

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Just go to who's the bitch.com for all the ways you can contact us. New episodes drop every Wednesday starting in October on The Last Podcast Network, so subscribe now on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen. And tune in to our live stream kickoff on September 30th on the Last Podcast Network Twitch channel, where we'll be taking your calls live on air. Help us, help you figure out who's the bitch. I am interested in the idea that you cast one actor for identical twins. aren't there identical twin actors out?

I know Ryan Cuehler and Michael B. Jordan always work together, but aren't there identical twin actors out there who could get work? Have you seen Michael B. Jordan, though? Have you seen him? Like, I don't know if you've seen him. And like, if you think about two of them, MJ, I think that honestly, Ryan Cougler, I could imagine

could walk into a room be like, not one but two. And everyone goes like, here, here, give this madness a cigar. You've seen all the movies I've made with one, Michael B. Jordan? What about if I made one with two, Michael B. Jordan? What is there do? Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. I take it back.

Identical twin actors. Sorry, next time maybe. You'll have the opportunity. It is from dusk till dawn, but to Michael B. Jordan's. And I feel, I mean, for someone that from dusk till dawn changed my life when I first saw it, I feel that it is, it's not from dust till dawn, but I really, really had a great time watching. Okay. You know what I mean?

I do. Well, can I tell you what I'm having a great time watching? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Is this a slip and slide? Are we talking slipping slides right now? Because, bro, I mean, I don't know if I'm really bearing the lead on how hot. How hot.

Oh, my God. The fuck scenes are. But I'm sorry. You can talk more about sinners if you want to talk more about like the actual plot. Oh, oh, no, just about the, you don't want it. But MJ, I forget. I know not. I try to silence you.

I feel censored. Oh, am I being judged? I'm not trying to, if you want to talk more about Michael B. Jordan's fucking, you can't because that's what we're here for. So it's fine. I'm sorry, you're right. I know I forget that I am, I'm just a horny girl alone out here that I have to remember that not everybody is only thinking with the pulsating from their midsection. But please, yes. Just a horny girl. I know, man, horny world. Man, yeah, I took the midnight train going everywhere, but coming on my face. Oh, wow.

Well, what I was going to talk about was honestly more of like an emotional, a psychological, a spiritual slip and slide, but there's some physical slip and slide as well. Okay, I accept. It's season two of Andor. I knew, I knew. You love a rebel. I do. I do.

I love a rebel. Alliance, that is. No, I know, God. MJ, you must tell that to Gideon. I could hear Gideon getting hard from here. I'm just you making a sexy Star Wars joke. You know, I, long-time listeners will remember that I am married to a Star Wars enthusiast. We did walk back down the eye, like the recession song at our wedding was the Star Wars theme,

and he wanted it to be a deeper cut than the Star Wars theme. He wanted it to be the song that plays at the end of A New Hope when they received their medals. And I said that's too much of a deep cut. Too deep. Wow. Having the conversation about it, he was weeping from the music. So he's a real. I was like, nobody knows.

I was like, this one has no emotional residence for anyone. And I look at him and he was like sobbing. Actively crying. Yes. So he's a Star Wars boy for sure. And I am not a Star Wars boy myself. but I will enjoy them. I got nothing against them.

They just don't do a ton for me. However, I do love allegories about resisting fascism. Hell, yeah, you do. And therefore, I do stand in the camp that, and this is, I don't know how popular this camp is because all my friends are in this camp, but I don't know with what other people who are normal think. Rogue One, one of the best Star Wars movies. Oh, wow. Rogue One is so good. It's basically...

May I ask what makes if I... May I... And I don't mean to put you to task, but what makes that one a good one? No, unfortunately this task, I've been primed for this task for years because this is what my husband and my brother talk about when they're together. So Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie because...

Right. So when... Star Wars, episode four, New Hope, you know, Leia, you know, it begins with... They have the... Am I asking you right? I'm like, MJ, can you explain? made to me why people like, Star Wars? Can you just like go back and just start?

You know what's Star from me again? If you could just... No, I won't go on too long, I promise. But I basically... No, I'm not. Star Wars... I just didn't mean to make you do it. The Star Wars begins with this, the formation of the rebel alliance, right?

Like an organized rebellion. And also... Yeah, they're bad and they're mean. I started caring about Star Wars once I started looking at it as a political allegory, which I know that is literally what science fiction is. Right, yes. And you do claim to not like science fiction, right? I hate science fiction. Yeah, you hate science fiction. The other night we were watching Severance and Gideon looked over at me and he was like, you know what this is?

Science fiction. Oh, it's science. I hate to break this to you, MJ, but I feel like you might be changing. I think you're changing. I think I have been changed for good. Oh my God, you're already on the second part of Wicked already. in your brain. Okay. Oh, my God, you know how much I'm going to cry when they sing that goddamn song. Yeah, no, I know. It's, I'm going to cry and I don't even care about the first half of Wicked. But anyway, point is, Rogue One is leading up to everything that happens.

Rogue one is, it leads up, it takes us right up to the moment of the, of where we begin with episode for a new hope, right? So it's like, as the Rebel Alliance forms, because they have the information that they have to form a resistance to the empire, they have it because of the resistance movement that preceded it, and that story is not told until Rogue One, which is kind of crazy that they made the three Star Wars movies and then the three prequels before ever having told about, like, the kind of origin story of the kind of grassroots rise

of a resistance movement to the empire. So you're basically just getting the real, like, backstory of, what it's like to build a resistance to fascism before you have like the full strength of what becomes the rebel alliance. And so that's Rogue One and what Andor is is

I now Star Wars nerds will be I'm not because I don't remember the exact timeline but Andor is that. You know more than I know I'll follow you into the dark MJ into the space dark I guess. Andor is in the same is in the same you know timeline, same same part of time as Rogue One is where you have, I think it precedes Rogue One, but it's like,

you have Diego Luna, who is Cassie and Andor. Oh, you got, oh, you got Diego Luna. So that's the slip and slide part. Season one of Andor is extremely good. I highly recommend it. I highly recommend it. Oh, and he's in the movie, but then he's also in the show. Yes, exactly.

Oh, okay. And so let me see if I can even quickly. I have become my mother. I'll never forget when the movie, the perfect storm, was coming out. And my mom just kept going, I want to go see what is it? The big storm? I want to go see. What is it?

What is it? What is that movie? I want to go see that movie. And I just remember she said it over and over again. And I realize one of the many wonderful ways in which I'm becoming my mother, that is one of them, that I've just creating things in my brain. And when will I stop seeing current reality? I'm going to say five years from now.

You've got five years left. So let's see how it goes, guys. Yes. Well, but yeah. So basically, you know, if you've seen Rogue One and you liked it, the more concise way to say this is that Rogue One is the prequel to A New Hope and Or is the prequel to Rogue One, where you really see Cassie and Andor this resistance hero,

his origin story. And I don't even really want to talk about what happens in season one of Andor, if you have not seen it because it is it is breathtaking like i am married to a movement lawyer and and and a star wars nerd and so for him it's really oh my god together oh my god we're talking about like movement building it is a show about an movement building and an uprising in a way i've never seen anything like it i do not slip for star wars and i do slip for and or so i'm not sure if that is speaking to you guys as listeners. But it, and so season two just started.

They dropped three episodes at once. And we've only made it through the first one. But it is just, it's, it's beautiful. Like, and it is, I will say that to have a, a story that is so much about, about a violent resistance to a fascist empire at this moment is really, like, it's really like, it's really, really intense. Yeah, I imagine. I like, I kind of can't believe it's happening. I kind of can't believe the timing. Like, there's an entire scene where the Senate is just talking about, like, you know, occupying, colonizing, shock doctrineing another country, another planet. And I'm like, I can't believe this is happening right now. It's so good. It's so well done. The headline,

oh, one of the reviews is Andor's Season 2, a masterpiece, some of the best Star Wars ever made. where's the New York Times? New York Times headline Andor shows how a resistance is built one brick at a time. Damn. It's just, it's, it is, like, it is shockingly cogent timing and it is incredibly well done. And it's not, like, Eddie was talking about music, but he was like, you know, not all music needs to be political. Not everything is like a pamphlet. And I really appreciate that.

And not all art needs to be political, right? But and or if you're going to do a story about, obviously, Star Wars, again, it's a story of resistance. It's a story of rebellion. And this and or is like, it's how it happens. That's how you get to what Star Wars is. And it's just breathtaking. It's so well done. I, man, you know, I know that I will love it when I watch it again because apparently I watched the first full season and I don't remember watching it. I was just talking about how great Jeff's memory is. He's like, you definitely watch it with me. He's like, you just kept talking about how horny you were for Dehico Luda the entire time.

He's like, you definitely watched it because, like, I got you to watch it because I said it was kind of horny. And you said that you would watch it. And you did. And I was like, wow. And he's like, explaining the plot points. He's going through it. And he's like, don't you remember when this happened.

I remember where this happened? I was like, no. It's so not horny. It's only horny because boss from the bear is there. That is, I think, but he knows me. He knows, like, he knows I need, like, an essence. of horning. I need a wispah. Or cousin from the bear.

Yes, cousin, yeah. But anything that will keep me there, he knows what sells me. Totally, totally. And if that's what it takes to bring you in, then bring you I think, I wonder if you watch season one again or if you just go to season two, if it will hit different this time because of the world around us. It's like, I imagine it will. I feel like it honestly will.

I can't believe the timing. I'm like, I can't believe that this is allowed to be on television right now. It is a story of how to build a resistance movement. It is, it hits different, as they say. Do you hear the people sing, singing the song of angry men? Yeah. I won't continue, but I, we will not be slaves again. But that's just me being a little A-Miss girl, you know?

And who am I to ever say? because that's why I'm not saying, and I'm fully blaming myself that I don't remember and or. It has nothing to do with the show. Because this. We'll call it laymise in space. Does that do anything for you? Done. See, this is what I'm talking about.

You just have to pitch it to me right. This is how you get me into things. Lame is in space. Essence of horny. Yeah. I'm there. Yeah. That's all I need.

I'm with it. Again, I'm not, I'm not thirsting for Star Wars myself. So I also need ways to be brought in. And yeah, it's a hot, hot uprising. You know what's not a hot uprising, though? I feel Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray Cyrus's romance. Ew. What has happened?

Like, what timeline have we found ourselves? Is it like, is this a Marvel thing? Have we all done this to ourselves with the big box office movies that because so many movies about different dimensions have come out that now they're like, oh, you want fucking timelines? you want to get the dumbest timeline you could expect. Have Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray Cyrus get together. I think that something might be happening with Elizabeth Hurley

where maybe because she's British, we like assume that she's like smarter and cooler than she is. Like I think we're just dumb Americans and that makes a lot of sense. I have her on this like shelf that's much higher than the shelf that I put Billy Ray on. It's because of the huge. Grant incident. It has to be. It's the, yeah, I think it's right. I think we are still, like, I think we are just that age where we will never forget the Hugh Grant incident. Never forgive, never forget. Even though I still feel in a different age, it would, I imagine, be different because the way that it was discussed and what happened, I think was very yucky.

But it was still between two consensual people. And I believe, I mean, yeah, and she was. as far as we know, and as far as we know an adult. And it's sad that we have to have those bound reasons of this boy. Consensual. But I feel like the hugest thing, what the tabloids did at the time was we're like, fucking hooker. And then also, and can you believe banging someone when you could bang

Elizabeth Hurley? And I feel like that is a foundation point in my brain. Totally. I think it's that. I think you're right that, that we had to like side with her against Hugh Grant. And probably we were right. But again, I don't know. There was a long time ago and I have not looked closely. And I've not really looked into this.

Yes, I need 10 seconds looking into it. But you know what I'm saying? Foundation of my brain. I'm still saying just the, again, whispers. Like I just remember it from my childhood. But I, what I did spend more than 10 seconds looking into is why Elizabeth Hurley is consistently really a weird celebrity because remember the various we talked about it with Holden at one point that she,

her son, Damien, who is like a weird, beautiful alien. Yes. He films her sex, sexy, not full on sex, but he films her sexy. Was it only fans? I had both blinds open yesterday to talk about this. Yes, yes, yes. He makes her content for her, her sexy content. And then upon finding that, upon that, upon, that.

recollection, in the blinds, there were more links to more speculation about how weird her relationship is with her son and that perhaps it actually goes even further than him filming her sexy content. So that's all to say that I think I have been blinded by Elizabeth Hurley's beauty and her pretty generally good body of work. And that perhaps she's a weirdo, not only because of her relationship with her beautiful alien son, but also because of her now relationship with Billy Ray Cyrus. And I just it's yes technically it's none of our business on the one hand on the other hand that guy's a fucking creep and a piece of shit and why would you date it and yes I also so I that's that's I'm having like a big issue over here because in my brain I was like yeah and because she was also in monkey bone but she wasn't in monkey bone because monkey bone really weirded me out when it first came out like I was really I think I was like scared of monkey bone and I'm going to say I haven't seen it since but it was because I was confusing that that movie with the movie, with that Brendan Fraser movie with the movie bedazzled. And they were in that

movie. And I think that for me, and I would also assume lots of other horny youths like me, they remember that movie and have Elizabeth Hurley up on a pedestal because she was a hot devil woman in that movie. And I know that that at least kind of peppered something into my monster fucker brain, right? And also, I think we, I talked about her body of work and I'm looking at the list of movies she's in and I'm realizing. Yeah, I don't think she's in, like, is Austin Powers just doing a lot of heavy lifting? A lot of lifting. Like, she's a star. She was in both, two of the three Austin Powers is. She makes me think she's in Monkeybone every time I think about her. Monkeybone, the huge movie people are always talking about. Yeah, her list of movies.

besides us in Powers, we're not really talking about a lot of heavy hair. Although she wasn't my favorite Martian and my favorite Martian banged, bro. Christopher Lloyd at his, well, I don't want to say it as fine this,

but Christopher Lloyd, and I will end it there. Also, I will say I just finished season three of hacks and I'm about to enter season four and Christopher Lloyd has a bit character in it and I gotta say,

I just, I almost burst into tears that I'm just like, it's great to see Christopher Lloyd. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's nice. Put Christopher Lloyd in it. This is awesome. That's nice. Hacks is a great show for having fun little cameos like that. God, Hax is so good.

And I want to also say thank you to everybody that wrote in that also appreciated Hax that either works in the entertainment industry or has nothing to do with the entertainment industry or is annoyed by the entertainment industry but still enjoy this show. And I really appreciate it. because you're so right. It's so much more about the central relationship between the two of them and how that changes and how it grows and the generational relationship, the generational differences. Yes. Yes, very much so. And that conversation and also showing a boomer that is down to grow and listen and try to change. And I appreciate showing that. because like, you know, I have a mother that is not, you know, hashtag not all boomers, that is not like, you know, all the memes of boomers. And I'm very thankful.

And I feel like we should celebrate the ones that are not being like that. The ones that have grown and have learned and have changed. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. But I don't think we are celebrating Elizabeth Hurley. I know we're not celebrating Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray Cyrus. I just. No, we're not. We're not at all.

I don't want it. And don't get me wrong. Elizabeth Hurley, you look and. snatched. Like, you look great. Wow. I'm not commenting on the looks at all. I don't think any of my upset has anything to do with it. Honestly, how either one of them look. But I just think that Billy Ray Cyrus kind of needs to get punched in the face. Like, I think that he needs a, he needs a shakeup. You know, you read everything that's going on, like, with the Cyrus family. And it's just a lot of, like, it just seems like, man, the parents are just not, they're not being good parents right now.

Yes. Like, even if you didn't lose an entire Saturday morning once to reading about the drama and the Cyrus family, as I did, one time I just spent, I spent two. One Saturday morning. Two full hours. I just imagine you watching cartoons, but also doing this. I spent, I lost two full hours to reading about why they're all mad at each other. And you don't need to do that to just, all you have to do is remember, was it Vanity Fair or Vogue? I always mix those two up. I think it was Vanity Fair. The extremely creepy, photo shoot that he did with Miley when she was like underage and just everything he did to her. And their current relationship certainly points to that this is not us projecting

our own feelings from the outside only. There is something going on between them. She does not like her dad. And you know who I trust more than Billy Ray Cyrus? Miley Cyrus. Miley, especially when that dad was like, you know, in charge of her career and in charge of pushing her and he's like there's

going to be lots that we will probably never know about. Until that Miley memoir comes out and baby, I'm going to, oh, sign me. I'm going to read that. Ooh, that's going to be a good memoir. But also, man, speaking of, we are starting next week. We are starting down the drain by Julia Fox over on celebrities on the page 7 Patreon. And those episodes come out every Wednesday.

We just finished up Bad Mormon by Heather Gay from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And I know we're not talking about the book right now. We're not talking about it right now. But I've started it and I'm enjoying it. Down the drain? Yes. Oh, yeah. What we're talking about it right now. I know we're going to talk about it over there, but we have other things to talk about.

You know what? I do want to discuss real quick. You don't need to get into it, MJ, if you don't want to. We're talking big ticket items in the kids' Easter baskets. Oh, how big we talk. Yeah. We're talking Louis Vuitton. What are we talking?

We're talking to your. As big as the Kardashians, man. Is it as big as the Kardashians? The Kardashians are, man, they're putting in Louisville. in the Easter baskets. And that is just, how do you, you know, how does an Easter bunny top it? You know, like that's not the time to go all out.

No. You know, in the same way that, you know, you brought up the tooth fairy earlier, which also curious as what the going rate is, I saw recently Freddie lost her first tooth. She did. What is, what are we going? What's it going for these days?

I literally had to Google it. I was like, what, you know, tooth fairy rate's 2025, because, you know, you don't want to set a precedent. You know the kid's going to go to school and tell the other kids. And so... Right. And so that's why it's like, what has she heard? What's the word?

Like, I feel like I remember we got a lot of money in my brain and we got a dollar per two. Yeah, yeah. I think I got a dollar. I think we got a dollar also. So I Googled it and also Gideon was out with some friends that night who had kids and he asked them. And the consensus is $5, which, yes, seems like a lot. But inflation-wise, I think it actually kind of makes sense. You can't really buy anything with a dollar right now.

So if you want the kid to be able to like, I'd buy that for a dollar. But they can't even literally buy a candy for a dollar anymore. Right, right, right. Yeah. And that makes a lot of sense for inflation because I had heard that it was going up to 20. Absolutely not. One of my friends was like, I heard it was up to 20. It was like, 20.

I was like, good thing your kid hasn't started losing. I was like, you should probably circle back to that. I don't know who you're talking to. Because again, where do you go from there? If the tooth fairies drop in 20s, where do you, like, then what do you do for their birthday? Like, how do you make that special? Like, I don't, I know it's like a big thing, but man, 20s.

And the thing about that is that I, again, you know, you don't, you want the kid to be able to do something with the money, which is why I've made sense to me. But yeah, like, you don't, like a six year old doesn't need $20. to be excited. Like a five, like a five is exciting to a six-year-old. You know, like at Passover, my kids found the Afi-Komen and they didn't even know that you get money with it. It's literally just matzah in an envelope and they were excited, you know, because they found the matzah. It was one of the cutest things on earth. My God, I thought my ovaries were going to explode because the kids were so excited about the Easter egg hunt on Springsgiving.

I'm sorry, Springsgiving Egg Hunt because the Springsgiving. turkey left them, and that's what I was trying to explain to care as six-year-old, but it got her confused. I was trying to explain that spring's giving is different, but, you know, the six-year-old just wasn't getting a bit. But here's the thing, they didn't care, even though I painstakingly, because the parents had asked me very nicely, which I understood, to maybe not make all the eggs candy, if I could.

So I'm sitting there, and I'm just like, I'm high. Then I, before I'm cutting up all these sticker things, I'm trying to get them stuffing all these eggs doing all the shit. And the kids didn't care about what was inside the eggs. It's just the eggs. They just kept asking us to rehide the eggs so that they could go find them. They just wanted to. And then Cosmo told me the kids have now used the eggs because I was, she was like, oh, I'll save the eggs for next year. I was like, oh, great. And they've just been finding, they keep wanting to do a Easter egg hunts. Oh yeah. My kids, they will, with my parents' house, they'll hide goldfish and raisins and they'll put goldfish and raisins and

is just for weeks and weeks and weeks after Easter all year long they do Easter egg hunts. It's just fun. It's great. In the same way, there should be Advent calendars for every month or at least every other month. I think that there needs to be more find them and get them games. Yeah, sure, you've got your hide and seeks. But I say, bump it up. Let's make it a betting game.

No, totally. And there is a bit of an arms race now, especially with Easter. There's been a lot of discord, parent discourse about Easter baskets. because, of course, in the age of social media, it's just like, how pretty can you, how big, how expensive, how Amazon affiliated, can you make your Easter basket? And it's like, I remember we got Easter baskets when I was a kid and it had like a chocolate bunny and like the grass that's annoying. And I don't remember what else. Like it wasn't fucking Christmas morning, you know, but now it's like there's, you're supposed to do this whole thing where it's full of shit. And I'm not doing that.

I know. Honestly, I just realized that my mom definitely car me. the fuck out of us? And what does that mean? Carmi, who is Henry and Natalie, is like, I'm not going to say my favorite of the girls because I love them both equally, but Carmi is really crawled into my heart. And Carmi, oh, baby, she loves, she snarfs her food so fast, she almost chokes to death. So they have to hide when they're doing the dry food, like her wet food is regular, but when she gets a little bit of kids, her kids have to be hidden inside of like a, it looks like almost like a taco salad and she has to go and like snuff out all the kid like little kid bits.

And I just realized that's what my mom used to do to us with our Easter baskets because we would have all of the, you know, the horrific, I mean, I'm sure probably filled with lead or something that Easter grass that we used to have from when we were kids. Yeah. And that was essentially like the horrific tinsel from our childhoods. Yeah. And she would just dump loosely the candy in it. And I just remember like, like, oh.

Like just like getting through there because it was so funny because the kids were like they were like you're allowed one piece of candy today. That's what one of the parents had said to their kids. And I was like, man, when we were kids on Easter, we were allowed to eat candy till we puked. Yeah. Like we were able to eat candy from the second we woke up to the second. Like I just remember like, like as if the candy was going to be bad by tomorrow. I have eating issues. Yeah.

But I just remember when I loved Easter because in my brain, that was you get to eat candy all day, day. Yeah. No, Easter and Halloween. And also, you know, I think most of the kids, the average age of the kids you were with is three, at which point I think you can set a limit like that and it can go over well. Yes. Maybe it's just my own kids. If I set a one candy limit on Easter, there would be, Christ would come back to life and smite me. You say that.

I'm not going to name which child, but I will say. I found a little secret hidey hole of candy wrappers from a child that is three and a half years old that said that they only ate one candy wrapper. Interesting how they already know how to do that at three and a half, that they know how to hide the candy wrappers. And I found the secret stash and I was like, and then honestly, I was impressed. Yeah. So I didn't say anything. At that point, it's a good for that. Absolutely.

I didn't say anything. That is the best part about being an auntie. Mom's the word. I know nothing. Yeah. No, I, you know, we, we, we, I follow the rule of like put some shit in there that they'll need for spring. So, you know, you get a new swimsuit, you get some gags.

Oh, I love that. That's great. Yeah. So that's what we did. That's real spring's given shit is what you're talking about right now. I mean, that's really just, that's, you know, that is the bringing in of the color, the flavor, the life. And that's what Springsgiving is all about.

Exactly, exactly. But it's not about a Louis Vuitton bag. I just feel, I just, it's like, I know, I'm turning into, I'm too old to comment on pop culture because I just, I have to like skip a generation. Don't see it. I just want to sit in a rocking chair and look at these stories and be like, that's sad, you know, but that's not, I can't, that can't be the podcast. But I just look at the Kardashians.

I look at this story. I look at North going to Coachella. And I just want to sit in a rocking chair like a, a. disgruntled old grandmother and I just want to say that's sad for them. Sad for them. It's sad for them. Or you can be young and say it and then people will judge you more, but that's fine. It's sad for them. It's sad for them. Because you know who it's not sad for though, Ben Affleck because in the opposite end, I saw this article this morning where Ben Affleck refused to buy his son $6,000 sneakers because there was a picture that was taken of him and his

kid at a sneaker convention. And his kid was holding up, I think that they were Dior, like, specific. Like, they were $6,000 shoes. And so everyone was making memes out of this picture. And so, of course, on Today with Jenna and Friends, which really just makes me think of Garfield and Friends. And I feel that I'm upset every time I think about this show. And I'm like, you're not Garfield and Friends. Get out in the field. And you're also not today. I know Hoda's been gone since January, but I'm sorry. What is this? What is it? What are we doing here? I'm glad for you, Jenna. I guess. I'm not. But whatever. But, but yeah, it's, Kathy Lee is a long live Kathy Lee Gifford, long live Hoda, who's

still alive. But it's, it ain't the same. No, it's not. But I do love that Ben Affleck certainly was like, uh, yeah, I wasn't going to buy my kids $6,000 shoes. He was like, no. He's like, my older kids, they're getting jobs. Like, his oldest, kid already has a job, the second oldest already looking for a job. And the kid, apparently right after the photo was taken, said, come on, dad, we've got the money. And he's like, no, I've got the money. You're broke. Put the shoe down. And that's what, like, literally what he said to him. And he's like, no, man, he's like, you go work. He's like, work a thousand hours on something. If you work a thousand hours on something, I'll get you the shoes. Yeah.

It's like, I bet, though, at the end of that thousand hours, you're not going to want to spend the money on the shoes. Yeah. So I like that, but it's like, I know that it is like an old geysers approach. And I'm not saying, I don't, I'm not here saying like, oh, pick up your bootstraps. But I do love that Ben Affleck is like, all right, bro. No, no, no, no. I work my ass off. And it's actually kind of nice. I'm so busy staring at pictures of sad Ben Affleck that it was actually just kind of nice to watch him in an interview that I was like, oh, I forgot what his voice sounded like. It's crucial to watch videos of him because he is impossible to photograph. He's like my black cat.

Like, you can't take a good photo of him. Yeah. Yeah. He looks like the world's shittiest guy in a photograph. And then you watch a video of Ben Afflock and you're like, you are a delight. Yes. Oh, my God. And then you watch him speaking in Spanish.

And then you are a delight. And then you're a real delight. Yes. But no, he's like such a fine person. And the poor guy just can't stop getting memed because he is always looking sad with his donkeys. but he's a, and I totally agree. Like, it's, you, you want to, you want to, you don't want to raise a Patrick Schwarzenegger

from White Lotus. You want to raise a Patrick Schwarzenegger IRL. Yes. Yeah, exactly. A good, a good nap. We need a good nap out here. Exactly. We stand a good nap here on page seven.

And, you know, I give my love to Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck's kids. Oh, God, I love them. And you know they were spending Springs given together. And you know it was magical. Jen and Ben and the headline for Jen and Ben was that they are risen. They are risen. They spent Easter together. But it's still just co-parenting guys.

It's so funny. I'm so glad, MJ, that you see all these now of how often they're like, but did you see they were walking together? It's like, yes, they have children together. They live near each other. They actually, it seems like, co-parent well together. And that's crazy because he stooped the nanny. So it's like- I can't believe that he should.

Yeah, I was just singing his praises 10 seconds ago. But then I remember that he did chipped the nanny. But maybe growth, you know, maybe I don't know. People can grow. People can change. Obviously, they have worked to get to a place where they can co-parent to this extent. So go for them. Yeah, good for them.

They seem to care about each other. Those kids seem happy and supported. And I love that for them. Yes. not as supported as Anne Hathaway's face. Uh-oh, I said it. Uh-oh, yeah, I said it. And I mean that in a positive way.

Look at how snatched her face looks. Everybody who's anybody. And it's just like, man, just let her be. Everybody's just like, oh, my God, did you see how tight her face? But also it was like, is this not? What is happening, guys? Why do we pick and choose that we're like, we'll never ever comment on a woman's.

by again. So it's like you do that and then in the, like, you just scroll down half a page and you see an article like, it's like, but how tight is her face? You're right. There is now a cultural social stigma on commenting on people's weight, which I think is good in general, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. But there is not the same stigma for commenting on their faces, which I perhaps makes, I don't know. I was going to say maybe it makes sense because people are usually commenting on, like, work that people have gotten done or whatever. But I don't know. Anne Aethaway, first of all, yes, she's very tight. And it does look like she's, like, being like some sort of, like, giant, like, air blower is being blown on her. And her face is being sucked back a la like Rocco's modern life when they're in a rocket ship that goes really fast.

Yes. Yes. Great reference. But here's the thing. I look at her face and, like, not to be a creepus here, but I am going to say it's a positive. call out of a person who's not here. But Natalie Jean also has a face this tight and has never had work done. Yeah.

Like she is just diligent in what she does. And like also in these pictures, Anne Hathaway's face, her ponytail is plastered back on her head. Yeah. If anything, it's a Jojo Siwa tight ponytail situation. For sure. Or like even, I mean, maybe it's face tape or something like that. It's just I feel like it is a look to do. that. Like you look at like, you know,

Dochi talks about how she uses face tape and she also likes her hair up and out and she likes the way that it looks. And openly talks about that. What's the problem with it? I mean, what would it matter if she had a full fucking facelift? I mean,

what does it matter? You know, if that's what she fucking wants to do. Right. But she also, I just feel like, could be very diligent with, I mean, people that have been rich for a long time like an Anne Hathaway like that, you know, is, like, she really has been working on it. Yeah, she's really been taking care of herself.

Also, she's only 42, so it's not like, what do we, you know, it's not like the skin just being hanging off her face. I know. She just looks tight. It doesn't look like, yeah, this feels so weird to talk about because it doesn't, even if she looked like she was full of filler, again, we try not to comment on that. It doesn't really matter. If you like filler, get filler.

If you like talks, get talks. Like, you've gotten talks. You talk about the talks. But like this she doesn't even I probably she gets Botox right but like it's she doesn't even have like real housewives face. She just looks like she's she's been tightened up real tight. She's a tight lady to begin with. She's a tight lady. She tightened up.

She's a tight lady. Started tight. Stayed tight. I don't think that's a story. You know, exactly. And it goes to show that they're like, man, somebody just needed to write an article on. But you think that. But then you see the same thing on every single.

sight. And I'm just like, guys, get like, where are the hot takes? Lots of the stories about it in halfway's face. Yeah, lots. Yes. So many of them. Honestly, I wanted to see more about Kristen Stewart's wedding. That's, I wanted to see more about that, except I didn't because the only pictures that have been released are people that are obviously like hiding in the trees, trying to take pictures of her wedding. And that's really fucking gross. Yeah. But if. Of course I do want to see it, but I want to see the pictures they release of it. Yeah, yeah.

Kristen Stewart seems to be a person who really desperately needs a break from being in the public eye. And I think that we can give that to her here. But I will say I was kind of excited because Robert Pattinson and Suki Waterhouse did go to the wedding. And I did was doing the like a, ah, like I was singing twilight to myself. even though I knew they weren't together, like good for each other in real life, obviously. But I'm happy that they're so happy with each other. And I'm happy that they got to a place that he went to the wedding. And I think it's nice.

Yeah, that is nice. That's nice that they're buddies. Yeah. And, man, then I just started thinking about love lies bleeding. Good Lord. Uh-oh. Sorry. I guess, man, you just, you get me on the slip and slide.

It's difficult to get me off. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, once I'm sling, oh. I don't know. Please. I get that. Do you think, Jackie, do you think we should talk about how the jam is bad or do you think we should leave her alone?

MJ, the jam is bad, you know? The jam is bad. The jam is bad. I really, I didn't want to include it. We have to talk about how bad the jam is from Megan Markle. Like, we have, we, it is apparently real bad. It's, it's, I pulled a couple of quotes from. this review.

And I just, we have tried to take the note. People don't always enjoy us having a laugh at Megan Markle. And I hear you. We see you and we appreciate you. And the jam is bad. The jam is bad. You had one job.

The jam is bad. I feel that like what I love about this specific review is that it was from people that were like, okay, all the reviews are absolutely brutal. So we decided that like that we were going to get like they got some. They like these people got some. Hard to get. Like we're only 50. Very hard to get.

So they went out of their way to make sure that they got some. And then the whole staff of this office tried it. And please, yeah, you can read some of the quotes, MJ of their reviews. Quote number one, did we get a bad batch? Which is, that's a hard way to start. It's bad. Quote number two, bad taste, bad texture, bad memory. Yeah, those are three bad things about a jam.

It is described as runny, which you don't want in a jam. Maybe if you're using it as like, you know, a glaze, sure, but. I'm trying to pepper a little bit of sunshine into it. Yes, in the interest of being fair, there's also the quote, it's fine. Glowing. Wow. And I hear also, don't give you wrong. We know Megan Markle did not make the jam. So we're not making fun of Megan Markle. We're not making fun of Megan Markle. We're not making fun of the team. The team that works for her. Also, some great quotes about the flower sprinkles, which she does claim to put on all of her children's food. that if you've got to look up a picture of the sprinkles because if I put that my kids, I'll put sprinkles on, a good hack is to put sprinkles on something

and that a kid might otherwise be hesitant to eat like peanut butter toast, put sprinkles on it? Oh, so you just put sprinkles on it? Yeah, and it does work. Not all the time, my kids are past it now, but it really worked for a while there. It's great. Sprinkle toast, you know, it's great.

But these are, these, if I put these sprinkles on my kids. They're just, they're just flowers. They're just edible flowers. And my kids love flowers. Maybe I should try it. Maybe they would eat it, but I don't know if they would. But anyway, the quote for them is, it tastes like cardboard soaked in perfume. And another quote, it tastes like I ate potpoury by accident.

Oh, oh, man, it is always what you're looking for. At least the flour sprinkles are only $8 for flour sprinkles. So it's not like the jam. It's not the limited. It's also that's the thing. If you're going to do something that is like limited a dish, aren't you assuming you're going to be getting like the best, you know, of what you're making? I would assume you're going to make more than 50 and you're at least going to be like making sure like, you know, where's the like the quality, you know, making sure that the quality is good.

And I would assume if someone's going to be selling jam this exclusively that you would assume that the jam was going to be really good. I didn't expect to make fun of her because of the jam. Yeah, yeah. And I, I guess I would encourage Megan Markle to, you know, keep making your jam if this is what you're passionate about. Keep doing your show if this is what you're passionate about. And I would also, I truly would encourage her to like, she is the most charismatic and talented person in the royal family right now. And you could even set your sights even higher than this runny jam. Like you could do some of the men more. I know they did good stuff for the fires and stuff. Yeah, they could half-ass a podcast, though, anytime. I think that they could even say, I just, you know, Diana would like to do a lot of humanitarian projects. And I know that Megan was really interested in that. Oh, you're comparing them, MJ. She is interested in that.

You're comparing that, MJ! I'm really trying, I'm trying to live and let live. Do your jam? Have fun with your jam. And keep you jam. Get jammed. Yeah, man. If the reviews are bad at first, you don't silence yourself.

Don't make yourself smaller for that, Megan Markle. Make more jam, all right. But also, you could even work on other societal projects. Even bigger than the jam is all I'm saying. Whoa, bigger than jam. You mean. Dream big. Oh, I thought you meant doing like a reboot of Stronger Than the Storm,

the song that they released in New York that we had to listen to all the time after the hurricane. But we call it bigger than the jam. And that's what she should do. She should get into music making. I'd like her to see maybe like, ooh, maybe she'll start working with like Queens of the Stone Age. You know, like I think that that's what she needs. Yeah, it might be. Like a, you know, just like a rock and roll remake.

That's what I've been asking for for Megan Markle. And I think that's what's going to be next, her in Jinko's. She is, I will say she is receptive to feedback. She changed her to the name American Riviera Orchard. That's another story from this week because she said it's word salad. So I hope she's not listened to page seven. But somebody let her know. somebody let her know that Holden didn't like the name.

Yeah. And so she changed it. She receptive feedback. Unlike our friend Hilaria, who reads every comment, and I get it, Hilaria. Comments aren't fun, but Hilaria reads every comment, responds to every comment, makes videos about every comment. She's so upset about the comments. She's so upset that people know that she's not Spanish.

And it's getting to her. It's getting to Hilaria. She's getting weirder by the day. And I do, I really do. I mean, I'm not being sarcastic. I wish peace and happy. on Megan Merkel. Yes.

Make your jam girl. Yes. You're right. Because she can't, you know, let's see, let's see where she shines. In a way, yes, that I don't support Hilaria because Hilaria is only just, I mean, she did a whole television show to try and by the end of it be like, but guys, I am Hispanic, right? And it's just like, nah, dude, eight hours later, nah, you're still not. Okay. Well, we'll just continue.

She made this video this week that she's like, everyone loves to gossip. I'm dedicating my book to all the people who've ever been gossiped about. Which is interesting because she also just said, I'm dedicating my book to anyone who has a story. And in my brain, I was like, fuck off, bitch. Oh, anyone who has a story who also marries a multi-millionaire who can let her just do Pilates every day until she writes a book and then she dies.

You know what I mean? And not that I'm saying that I wish that a monster. I'm just saying that like not everybody has that ability. Okay. So who are you dedicating the book to? And I guess MJ and I will find out because I believe it drops May 5th. Yeah, it's September early May. Manuel, not included.

Manuel, not included. Manuel. But first we're reading Julia Fox. So you're going to have to wait. Eladia, we're all going to have to wait. But thank God we don't have to continue watching the Baldwin's. I will just throw it out there. I know that we got to start wrapping up here.

But man, the Last of Us, oh, baby, I just need to say that I haven't said aloud yet that I'm still caught up with the current Last of Us. And, man, they are, it's doing a great job. Yeah. And again, coming from somebody who I still know not one thing about the video game, and I really am enjoying it. And also, let's just see where Nathan Fielder goes with the rehearsal. And he is, it's all about. plane crashes. So it is interesting. Man, that first episode, I was like, wow, I love that Nathan Fielder is like, okay, you're going to give me the money. I'm going to do exactly what I want with

it. And he is. And it's fun to watch. It's why I've watched now every single episode of everybody's live with John Malaney. Also, what an awesome, amazing experiment to get to watch. It's to me very inspiring of what we can do and what we can shoot for. And I just want to say it's always fun to watch things that help encourage you to dream bigger. And especially in a time when right now it makes you think like, oh, all your dumb, dream big. Like what is it fucking matter? Everything is so horrible. But it's those things that keep us going, guys.

We got to just keep going forward, being good to ourselves, being good to other people, making fun things. Making jam. Making, I guess you make your runny jam. Guys, if you got to get the jam out, get the lead out. Make your jam and just also try to, like, it's like one eye on the jam, one eye outward is all I'm asking, right? Yeah. One eye on your jam project.

If you could, yeah, just distance them. That's, you know. Like, we want to be working on our, like our inner jam is important. And then also we, you know, I think we owe it to society and these times to also, like, also look beyond the jam and see if there's anything else we can, you know, help a neighbor, give blood, whatever the fuck little thing, but donate a suitcase to a, you know, migrant shelter, whatever you can do that's just ever so slightly beyond the jam while also making your jam because we deserve to do what makes us happy. And we also got to help people.

Yes, yes. Thank you so much, MJ for hanging out with me today. And man, we didn't even get into, I guess there's not much to discuss about the fact that Viola Davis admitted to following Merrill Streep into the bathroom and then went into the stall that she went into after she used it just so she could smell her. She did admit that. But honestly, it just makes me like Viola Davis more. Yeah, though, that's a very, very sweet story. Also, I think we've all had the experience of like walking, being in mid conversation with a friend and then walking into the bathroom and then being like, should I stay or should I leave. Is it okay? Are we a level of friendship where we can hear each other pee or should.

should I leave? And also talk through the pee. Yeah. I feel like that is also a different level of friendship if you're both actively pissing and you still talk through the piss. Or if one person's pissing, one's not. I just saw one of my best friends, but I hadn't seen her in like a year. So we were talking.

We both went into the bathroom together. I was piss and she wasn't. She was quiet through the piss. And I was like, uh-oh, are we about to have like a level of awkwardness that's not usually here in our friendship because we haven't seen each other in a while? And then she was just like, apparently I just followed you in here to hear you pee. And that was what I was what I was thinking about. when Viola Davis told this story about Merrill Street.

But like saying that to Merrill Street, you know. I love it. I just, yeah, I guess I just followed you in. You're sorry, you know? But it's also, it's so funny because exactly, make that joke, break that ice. And we just keep on, keeping on, everybody. We can keep on, keeping on, everybody. And just don't think about Elizabeth Earley and Billy Ray Cyrus too much.

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