Page 7 - Second Helpings - We Like To Be Traumatized

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

This week on Second Helpings, MJ and Jackie thought they got through the hard story yesterday, but they're back with more CONTENT WARNING HEAVY CELEB NEWS as they dive into the Perez Hilton breakdown. But Jackie's got some Pork n' Beans and Tomdeya vidz to turn her frown upside down. Jackie went to see The Spidermans in SCREEN X, and she highly recommends, MJ covers the comments Ireland Baldwin had to say about Perez and social media bullying as a whole, and Jackie's got a dab rig! Then there's even more contact talk, "Nation's Dumbest" is back with a new episode and it's very clear Anthony Michael Hall is NOT "the brain" of this club, and Jackie brings up one of the best episodes from the new season of "King of the Hill!"  Dylan Sprouse says he stopped smoking after sharing a final cigarette with David Lynch, Maggie Gyllenhaal has came out and said that she's always felt like she's in the shadow of Jake Gyllenhaal, and Tom and Zendaya did an adorable interview with puppies! Anya Taylor Joy steps up against method acting, MJ and Jackie both agree that "The Social Reckoning" looks like a Sorkin Slop fest, but thankfully we will soon be able to learn about "Ebenezer"...before he was Scrooge, plus even more on this week's Second Helpings! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Second time around. Second helpings, everybody. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. And I'm MJ. The story of the week may have been Ariana, but your second helping of the week is Spider-Man. And we guess Perez Hilton. Also, if we have to.

I think that it's going to probably, probably going to throw a little bit of Perez Hilton in there, regardless of whether we really want to or not. But it is. Which we don't. No, we're not. We're not. loving on this. Surprisingly, we didn't hear this story and go, bazinga like they do on their bangs. I know that that wasn't where my head was at. It's a rough story. It's a rough story to a week that we had already begun, that we thought it was already like, oh man, the big story of the week.

Oh, good thing. We talked about the really hard, unpleasant story already. And then I literally wake up to seeing posts that are just like, don't want. Don't watch the video. Don't watch it. And you didn't watch the video. I did not. And that is our editorial stance here at page seven. You do not need to watch the video. Horrifying graphic videos online in order to, I think you can, if you want to know what's happening, you should become informed about what happened.

But you do not need to subject yourself to the relentless onslaught of visual violence that is available to us every second of every day. Yeah, but you know, sometimes we really like to be. traumatized and you know you gotta see the photos if you want the trauma so we get it also some of us out there we just have you know fingers disease and that means we have fingers and sometimes the fingers look up things that the brain is like please don't look it up please don't look it up but the fingers are already going and then you're already looking at it and you're like oh my god he was nude oh my god it lasted so long but you don't need to watch the video and for some of those

that are not, you know, that, oh, are you paying attention to other things that maybe are not aware of what was going on for Perez with Perez Hilton. Let's just give a quick TLDR out the gate here. I think that's good. That he was hospitalized for a, for he was on the middle of a live stream and he was nude. On TikTok, a TikTok live. Oh, excuse me, yes, TikTok live. Yeah, TikTok live. And he was, but he was live while doing it.

And he was self-harming. himself very, very desperately and very, very much so. And apparently he was home in, he was home and alone despite living with his mother and his three children. But thank God he was home alone, I guess. But of course, watchers sent an ambulance, which I guess they would have to find him. And I don't even know anything about that. But we do know he has hospitalized.

This is a very tricky situation. for a lot of people to navigate. Because I think if you guys remember, maybe the one thing you know about Perez Hilton is that he's a huge piece of human garbage. Not that anyone deserves to go through a psychotic break. Not that anyone deserves this. But also, guys, reminder,

he's a horrific human being. This actually is an interesting little onion to peel back with, again, starting off with, you know, best of luck to him in his recovery. Thank goodness he is okay. Thank goodness he got help. Thank goodness the kids weren't there because like I'm really thinking about his children. I'm just, thank God that they didn't see that. Yes. And I think I want to get into the Perez onion because I do think there are many layers specifically with regard to like celebrity at pop culture. And also I just want to just put this out there for all of our listeners, a compassionate, you know,

just acknowledgement that it is so hard to be online right now for so many reasons and that if basically if you have made it to wherever you're at in life young adulthood adulthood later adulthood wherever you're probably young sexy adulthood thank you yes wherever we are which is perfect adulthood where you're hot and you feel great about yourself all the time thank you for acknowledging our section of adulthood but point is we We all have gotten here and we probably all have triggers around things like eating disorders around things like mental health and, you know, around things like, you know, postpart of experiences. And I just want to just name that every time I look at my phone, I am profoundly triggered by

something horrible. And I just want to say that because that is the life we are all living. And it's crazy. Like, it's crazy. Like, for a while, it was like, every time I look at my phone, I see images of a horrible war. And then now it's like, every time I look at my phone, I see images of just like a family tragedy. And I just want to say that because, like, if you feel, like, I used to look at my phone and be like, ooh, fun, a little treat. I'll look at my phone and have a little treat of relaxation. But your brain still thinks it's a little treat of relaxation.

So it keeps going back to it. And then you look at and go, 100%. Exactly. Every time you look at your phone. Yes. And I don't even know what time it was that my phone was prevent. writing relaxation, but it was like, you know, back when, you know, I was a big Twitter person in the early in the tens back when it was good. And it'll be like, oh, I'll see the little jokes

my friends are making or I'll learn a little bit about the news and maybe it'll be interesting or whatever the fuck. Or maybe I'll see a little video of. Punish. Punish. You should be punished. That's all I'm hearing. There's no corgi singing call me maybe anymore. Okay. It's just like, there's a family tragedy. They are out there because you say this, but I was really struggling yesterday and then I started following this page on Insta called Pork and Beanie's because it's about these two dogs and there's Beans

and then there's Piglet and they are two very cute and Biglet Oh Biglet loves to shake her tail and she, but she's a little chihuahua so when she shakes her tail her whole body shigs and then when he plays the guitar she puts her little paw on the guitar and

it's just like don't you should pet me instead and her whole body wiggles and her name is Biglet and yes Pork and beans. And that's nice. And that's all I need, MJ. That is. I just need pork and beans and then everything's going to be fine.

And just like we talked about last week, my algorithm was pure laymise for a while. And it was a vacation from life. From your problems. Yes. What about Bob? You should watch it today. And thank you to everyone who sent me the video of the person singing laymise in the style of Justin Bieber. Yes, those are two of my interests fused together in perfection.

So I just want to, but I just, I do just want to name that because I feel like when all of us, all of us in life are like, why do I feel bad all the time? And it's just like because every, because now our phone is listening to us and I think identifying our triggers. I've been talking with a bunch of my friends who are gestational parents and we are all getting more of the trial going on right now than any of our friends who are not gestational parents. And it's like we are being, the companies are targeting our weaknesses. I think the other day. And I was like, I thought you were referring to a different trial. that is also horrific, that that was about a teacher and a student.

And so I thought you were talking about that one. And then I saw you were posting about it. I was like, oh, you were talking about a different very upsetting trial. Because there are many of them, MJ. I know. But this is, but see, that's what I mean. The fact that the phone, that these companies are basically finding out how can I feed you the most triggering thing. You're a mother, I'm going to feed you this trial.

And it is specifically going to upset you. So I just want to name that that every, like, Everybody I talked to right now is like being profoundly triggered by the algorithm finding their. And so then to, you know, the Perez Hilton thing is just one of those things where it's like, oh, good, I get to just be triggered in all these different directions too. But that's why have you thought about just staring at Tom Dea footage instead? And then your whole feed will be Tom Dea, MJ. Brough, I'm doing one better, man. I'm in the woods.

I'm staring at grass. I'm looking for deer. Ugh. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for you. Oh, God, make sure you don't get ticks. Oh, God. Oh, I'm checking for ticks.

There's probably hypodermic needles in the tree stuff. I don't trust them. I don't trust what they do out there because you never know what kind of traps are laid. I watch the scary movies. Being out in the country, we all know is much scarier than being in the city. So, MJ, I hope that you're sitting in vacation in fear. Don't worry. My anxieties have just been redirected towards different things.

But I am looking for dear. Good, good, good. But also towards like a Perez-Heldon situation because it is that that live, that's also something as a performer of a live breakdown. That is so. But also, I think this is why everyone keeps being like, but don't watch the video, but don't watch the video. Because I think that we're all so used to seeing such crazy stuff that it's like, but this is an active, you know, while you can see it in his eyes or not or maybe see. see him seeing through you or I don't even know because again, I didn't watch the video. And I think that this is good for us. We need to not watch it, y'all.

It's, and that's all, you're right. As a performer, it's interesting because the, you know, the cultural invention of being able to put on a performance from your home means that there are fewer barriers to live streaming or psychotic break, whereas if you had to have a venue to put on a show as you had in the past, there's just a lot of layers in between you and your psychotic break being public. And now it's just like very easy to have your psychotic break be public. And that's probably not a great trend

for performance or humanity. No, because I feel like it's like back in the day, like Judy Garland, she could spin that into selling tickets. You know, like so maybe that's what's gonna happen with Perez, you know? Take that breakdown, turn it into tickets. But even Judy Garland's breakdown was, I mean, compared to this, largely private. And obviously it wasn't private at all.

But it wasn't like, it wasn't being live by the minute. No, it wasn't live. It really, it's crazy the place that we find ourselves in. It is. But it also, it's crazy to find yourself in a movie theater when there are three screens, MJ, especially when you become the Spider-Man. Yes, I did go see Spider-Man in Screen X. It was shot for Screen X.

And for those that are unaware, you're like Screen X, oh, we're talking to, about new technology. We're talking about new things. I don't like it. Sounds like SpaceX. It does sound like SpaceX, but we're not talking about 4DX, which is the one that I did want to go see the Odyssey, because everyone kept talking about, they're getting like sprayed with ocean spray. And they're just like everything's all wet and everything's upsetting. And I do love that. But in the middle, there is ScreenX. And that is where you have a huge screen in front of you, like a movie theater. But then also the walls are also screen. and when they shot it, they shot Spider-Man for this movie. So when you're swinging in the movie, it feels like you're swinging through Manhattan. There's like peripheral.

It's filmed to have like peripheral. It was awesome. That's cool. That does sound cool. And I understand, I think a lot of people, because the tickets are expensive, they are more expensive than your average, but not when you're an AMC Stubbs member.

Uh-oh. Where's my subscribers? Can I get this at the AMC? AMC Stubbs. AMC. I'm sorry, what? Can I get this at the AMC? Where do I find the special technology?

ScreenX is at the AMC. AMC. You get it at the AMC. I'm sure that they have it at other places. I only know because I'm Stubbs forever, that I know that we get it at the AMC. And I'd seen it before that people are like, oh, ScreenX is just a stupid thing for stupid people. And don't get me wrong. I don't think I want to see like the drama in screen.

I don't need to see the sides of Robert Patton's apartment, you know what I mean? But if you're swinging through Manhattan, now that's how you do it. And I just kept thinking over and over again

about how Tom Holland kept thinking about going back and forth between the Odyssey and doing Spider-Man of where everything was done so practically with the Odyssey and he kept asking for more things to be done practically in Spider-Man. And it Apparently, he did get his way a little bit, that there was more.

I don't think that's why he got his way. He swung him through the avenues of the buildings in Manhattan. Some more of that. Like, yes, that they were actually doing more of actually swinging him and like on strings being swung from building to building. And I was watching some footage of it. And that looked awesome. And I just, I didn't, I thought that screen X was just going to be only gimmick, not fun. and also I will throw it out there.

Not every shot is the entire thing. Oh, it just like activates? It activates for the like crazy. Oh, that's cool for the actions. That's fun. Yes. So Gideon saw it. He loved it.

I think he saw it in a normal 1D. Oh, 1.0. What is it? 2D was a paper? I guess that is 2D. I guess that is most movies, Jack. I don't know. The lowest last.

level of technology is how he saw it. I'm so sorry for him. Yes, but he loved it, loved it, loved it. I cried, I think, six times. Really? Yeah, he also, he said he was crying and the people next to him kept looking over in confusion about why he was crying so much. He's a loud expressive cryer during movies, but yeah, he said no one else was crying. He's allowed to be a loud expressive cryer. He's allowed to be a loud crier. I was actually talking about this on who's the B because next to us at ScreenX was a man probably in his 50s or 60s that was at Spider-Man alone. And he was so excited about Spider-Man. Was it by husband?

It was not your, surprisingly was not your husband, but it could have been because he just kept talking to Jeff. Like there was one moment where he was like immortalizing the famous like covers in moments. and he was like that one was from this comic and then this one and then it was like that kind of it I was very very happy for them and I just kept being like I'm very glad Jeff is the one sitting next to you because I am here for the Tom Dea and I oh oh were they serving I'm so upset and I'm so and I just want to say for those of you that think you don't care about a Spider-Man watch the other Tom Holland Spider-Man leading up and then go see it

because I was so in by the time I went to go see this movie that I was like, I'll do anything for them. And like I really, I got my own fervor like foamed and alive for myself. This is what I love about any time I see specifically the Spider-Man movies. Like I do enjoy the Avengers movies and basically anytime I talked about, anytime I see a superhero movie, I'm like, fun. Like I never like think I want to see a superhero movie and then I see it and I always have a good time.

Until it's a bad one. And then you're like, ooh, right. But like, I always love X-Men. I always love, you know, Avengers and, you know, the Batman's are fun and everything. But I, my family grew up with Spider-Man, like Spider-Man was our superhero. My dad would read Spider-Man comics to my brother. And obviously, the Sam Ramey ones came out when we were in high school and they were so good.

And also, we were little, we grew up in Queens. So, of course, Spider-Man was always big in our home. You know, that was old. we always had a Spider-Man contingency. There's so many fun things about Spider-Man specifically as a superhero. Yeah, the New York part, the, like, I really love, like, the moral struggle. I find his moral struggle to be much more compelling than, like, a Batman moral struggle. Right, right, because he's like, I want to help the world, but then I also have to protect

the people close to me, and I have to choose between protecting the people close to me or protecting, like, a broader public. And I think that, and also he's so funny. I love Spider-Man's personality, and he's always making little jokes. You know, I just, he's, he's, he's a tier superhero. Also, Spikely did say that Tom Holland for him was his perfect, but like that was Spider-Man to him. Stanley or Spikely? Spikely said it and we were like, why?

Spikely, why do you care about Spider-Man? What do you, like, honestly, everyone's like, do the right thing, Spike Lee, tell us what you really think about Spider-Man, okay? And that's what that movie's about. I love Spike Lee's taste. so that actually would mean a lot to me. So Stan Lee said that Tom Holland is the ultimate Peter Parker. That's great. We'll ask Spike Lee and T and he agree.

That's such a very different people. But a genius in their own right, each of them. He certainly was, but I really. I'm glad you loved it. I did love it. And I know I can't talk about what happens. it and I never would. Big spoiler. But Gideon's so afraid I'm going to get spoiled.

I'm like, buddy, it's not in my algorithm. I, you know, MJ, I thought it wasn't in my algorithm until I watched it. And I was like, oh, that was in my algorithm. And I just didn't realize it. So it might be, but also MJ, I will further say, I don't think you care at all about the spoiler that happens.

Even I barely care. And I love the character. So it is one of those things that like when it happened, I was like, oh. And then Jeff explained more to me. And that sounds vague. But if you watch the movie, you know what I mean. Because I was like, that there? It was one of those.

I can't imagine being upset about a spoiler in a superhero movie. It's just not. I just, I like them again, but I just can't imagine that it will be that upsetting for me if I do get spoiled. But it hasn't happened yet. And I do hope to see it. And maybe I'll make Gideon take me to the, to the X. SpaceX version.

Oh, screen act. Just don't ever call it SpaceX. It's not, all right? We're not sending Katie Perry to Spider-Man. Although, if Katie Perry just showed up in the Spider-Man, like we sent her inside of the screen. So it's like the opposite of Purple Rose of Cairo where we're just like, how about we just send her into it?

How don't we send her to Spider-Man? Send her to Spider-Man. Now, I do want to talk about the Perez thing. I think we can do it in a way that isn't horrifically depressing. I thought we were we talking about. I thought we did it. Didn't we do it? I want to say more about the Ireland, the Ireland Baldwin and everything like that.

So I do want to talk about it. Just the thing that you mentioned, Jackie, that I think is interesting, is that other celebrities, specifically Ireland Baldwin, Tallulah Willis had also spoken about Perez, how Perez had made her feel as a kid. Which was bad. That was actually last year. Horrible, horrible. Yeah, she talked about how, you know, he basically.

completely destroyed her self-esteem and, you know, that, and from a child, from as a child. From when she can remember on. Because she had Bruce Willis's chin. Chin. And I remember how brutal he was. There was specifically that, and when Tallulah was talking out about, like, there was a specific time when I think that she said that she was like 13 or 14 and she was hugging her father and that she had shorts on. And Perez Hilton was just going on and on about how fat and ugly she was and drawing all

these pictures of like her father grabbing on her in the pictures. And that specifically, crazily enough, traumatized her. Yeah. Can you imagine the age of 14 of you feeling like the whole world? is calling you fat and laughing at you? And this is why I said earlier that I think that there's like so many layers to the story because it's not that Perez Hilton

was the only one doing this. Like I actually remember us early page seven days making fun of the Willis children for looking like Bruce Willis too. Like it was totally a part of the culture. Obviously everybody in the 90s made fun of Chelsea Clinton and so it was like obviously we're so targeted.

It was so. Totally. on such a huge platform. Yes. And I think that's, I think that's what was, what's the reason that Perez Hilton, I think can be specifically indicted and called out is that he built his name and built up

this whole industry of like, I think he made, he was like a pioneer in the genre of really cruel, targeted, specific harassing celebrity gossip. And so I just think that that, um, And he has, last year, I looked at, I went down in a little Perez hole.

And so last year, he, he like had a death. Without seeing the video, you went down a worm time and you didn't see the video or any of the pictures? Yes, I did. I did. I think for, I'm not trying to give anybody credit, but I do think that it is now, the video is now not so it's not popping up. They're trying to scrub it. But what I was thinking about is, and so what you had mentioned is that after this tragedy, this week happened with Perez, Ireland Baldwin spoke out. And she said, Perez Hilton has publicly humiliated me and my family for years, sexualized me from a young age, commented on my weight and body as a child, made unforgivable comments about people in my family, drew jizz coming out of my moms and friends mouths and has always been a despicable human being. She wrote that in an Instagram story after this all happened. And so I just thought it was interesting to see, to see, you know, this big high profile story happened to Perez Hilton and then have

have her speak out and be like, and then, you know, she said like that said, I wish peace for him so that his children are okay. And like she ends it, you know, kind of gracefully. But I just thought it was interesting to have then the celebrities who were impacted by him speak out. And then the whole I went into was, has Perez Hilton ever apologized? And the answer to that is yes. kind of like vaguely over the years, but then he had this big, weird video that he put out last year where he's like reading the Bible and he had had like a death scare.

Like a, and he, then he was like, I'm reading the Bible. And I'm like, he had like a literal come to Jesus moment where he's like, and he named names. And he was specific in what a good apology is where you name the harm and you acknowledge the harm and you'd actually speak to the P. And he also says that he's reached out privately and stuff. So yeah, I was just thinking about it in terms of like when you have been the architect

of so much harm over the years that then kind of like launched all these other mechanisms that continued what you built, right? It wasn't just him, but but he, you know, was part of this huge toxic, you know, celebrity discourse that did so much harm. And then now having, you know, having him experience this personal tragedy and having other celebrities weigh in. And then, and the fact that he has apologized, it's like, yeah, I'm really glad that he's apologized. I think that, you know, I think that that that's really all you can do, right? But it's just, I think that, look, as always, we like to look at things with our 2026 classes and looking back at what happened in 2008, 2009, 2010 with what Perez was doing, you know, it's obviously was the beginning of something very, very, very,

very dark and insidious. And I'm glad that he has acknowledged the harm. And obviously we wish him, you know, well in recovery. But I just thought that Ireland, Baldwin, being like, I wish you well. And also we cannot erase like what you've done and like what has happened and what it used to be like for celebrity kids and girls and, you know, specifically and women. And still is like that. I don't know. I it's a it's a it's a it's a beast and I guess I was just it was interesting to see the way that he did try to apologize yeah but that also it kind I mean it's 10 years later more than 10 years later you know it's it's not given a lot it's not given a lot but it's given something I don't know if anybody has followed him more closely over the years and wants to weigh in let us know because

I feel like I have really only thought about him again in the context of when we read Brittany's memoir. Right. And then it started, then I had this retroactive realization of how much Perez Hilton shaped what it was like to be a young female celebrity in that time. You know, and how much he specifically ruined so many of those people's lives. Yeah. And targeted them to do that. So, you know, I know that a person can grow and can change. And I do, you know, we hope that.

but maybe it seems like there were a couple of demons on the inside that maybe need to also be dealt with. And I hope that he gets the help that he needs. It seems that he is. And I do, I love that you said that, you know, Perez Hilton discovers the power of privacy and respect when the family added your compassionate humanity during this heartbreaking time has meant more than words can express, which is a very nice statement because Perez Hilton never gave that humanity. Exactly. I think that's what so, it's like, oh, his family literally saying your compassionate humanity is so meaningful. And it's like this is for a person who famously for years and years disregarded compassionate humanity. And, you know, the right thing to do is still to give it even if they didn't give it to you. Right. So here we are.

You know, I'm about to talk about something very different than what we're currently talking about. I can't wait to hear what it is. And it's going to be, I'm just spinning the wheel of all the things I could talk about. And it's going to be my new dab rig. Yes, I'm bringing it up. I'm just going to be Dylan Spouse. No, it's not going to be Dylan Spouse talking about how he's a wife guy and how much he loves his wife. No, it's not going to be talking about me like loving the movie forbidden fruits or me talking about Nation's dumbest.

No, it's good. I mean, I guess it goes hand in hand with watching Nation's dumbest because I want to send a shout out out to Cass Reads Terro from our chat and also amazing friend of mine who sent me baby's first dab rig. And I am a different person now, MJ. Maybe. And I understand that it goes together with Nation's Dumbus, because if you're going to be watching a show like Nations Dumbus, where celebrities humiliate themselves for our pleasure, you're going to want to have a Dabrig. Now, I don't know, I've heard of a Dabrigg. It's science, MJ. Can you understand that? Sorry that you don't get these things. And I'm saying it like that because I need to share with everyone that I've been a stoner for 25 years and I thought,

I was like, weed, get it. I know everything about it. And then I got sent. I know all the ways there is to ingest it. I know every way to smoke this. And then I got sent baby's first dab rig. And I've done dabs before, but I had never prepared them myself. I didn't know anything about it.

And then I looked at all of it. And I was just like, uh, and then I was trying to do it. It was like, ooh. And then I tried to look up stuff about it. And it was like, ooh, because you can't just easily find stuff online, like describing all these things because there are many children online. I understand that. So my friend, amazing friend has. Interestingly, usually nothing is changed to protect children.

So it sounds like just for the dabring. Just for dabrings. It's only to make stoner's lives more difficult. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Show the kids the Perez Hilton video. Sex freaks can make sure that they don't find out how to use a dab rig. And I, so my amazing friend Cass sent me individual videos explaining what to do, how to do it, how to use it, the differences between the stuff.

Because I was like, I bought all these chunks and wet. Am I supposed to use chunks in wet inside of it? It doesn't look like other people's wet. It's science, MJ, that science has changed and they've made weed better. And I don't know how they did it. When you say rig, mostly what I picture is like a camera rig that like somebody has on a film set. But for something like a home dab rig, I just want it to be like a fuck swing.

Oh, yeah. I want it to be like a whole machine that you enter. Yeah. Yeah, a fuck swing for your mouth basically. It is not. It feels just as good. Oh, yeah. I do.

Honestly, usually, MJ, you are correct, and usually they look very complicated and they're like, blah, lo, lo, blah, and you have to torch, and you have, like, all this stuff. I just am throwing this out there. I don't work for Buffco. I would, though, if you want me to. They have now made the science easier

so you don't need to, like, light a fucking torch, and you don't need to have beakers out, you don't need to, like, have all this stuff. It's literally you just boop it in the boop now, and I'm pictures. I watch so many, I get so many Instagram ads of like, you know, SpanCon. And I just love like everything. If I'm not being shown trauma, I'm just being shown somebody being like, so I know a lot of you guys been asking about these shorts. And like, I love the idea of you just making SponCon of like, I know a lot of you guys have been asking about how high I've been lately. Because I have been high. And I have been watching Nation's dumbest.

But I really, I mean, Popcoach throwing that out there, if you wanted really a collab, not even with me, but if you want to, with Nation's Dumbest, really would be a great collab. Yeah, you're not going to want to be sober. So it just gets you real high. It's like a whole fuck swing for your mouth gets you even higher than the other. It's not like the other highs. No, it's not like the other highs because you have to smoke, it's like you smoke a lot less. And I'm not talking about the benefits of putting smoke in your, all of it's bad. I know it's all of it's, believe me, you could, I also want to give a shout out to all of the eye people out there that told us how bad what we're doing with our contacts is.

Oh, I know. Everyone was like, never, ever, ever sleep with your contacts. Your eyes, your eyes will fall out. You have to stop. And you know what? I still haven't bought contacts. But these are monthlies. They're fine.

It's fine. I didn't even mention this, but I was like, after we did that show, the next day, I saw a box of contacts on the tiny room table. And I was like, thank God, my contacts are here. And I put them in. And what about my morning getting the kids ready to take them to camp? And Gideon's like, why did you open my contacts? And I was like, I've been with you for 15 years. You don't wear contacts.

And he was like, I ordered contacts. And so the contacts I had put in were his. and they are a very different prescription than mine. And did I notice? No. Because they were weaker. If they were stronger, I would have noticed, but they were weaker. But, thank God he did.

But honestly, my eyes hurt so bad that wearing a fresh bearer contacts felt so good. I was like, whatever. I'm going to wear them. And then I walked the kids to camp and thank God I wasn't driving. And you're like walking sideways. Just sliding through the sidewalks. They got, he told me. And thank God I wasn't driving.

Because if you hadn't told me, I would have thought I was having a medical event. Yeah, losing your mind. And if I had been driving, I would not have been able to see anything. Oh, my God. I now have, I now have fresh contacts. I'm really, I'm proud. I'm proud of you because I don't. So I just wanted to say, I understand that I know that probably dabs are probably horrible

for you, but as somebody that has to smoke a lot of weed, I am now smoking a lot less weed. Like, I have to smoke and ingest a lot less. Because it's going straight to the dome. because it's right open now because of science, MJ. And that's the, I know distillation. I know diamonds. I know chunks and wet.

And I'm referring to them as my chunks in wet. But apparently the chunks in wet, that's the good stuff. Now, speaking of science, tell me what we learned this week on Nation's Dumbest because I, again, Jackie, I'm in the woods. I don't have time to see what Anthony Michael Hall doesn't know. Because you're in the woods. I'm into the woods. I'm looking at deer. I don't, I can't, although I have seen some of the socials that.

Napoleon Dynamite is putting out. And man, that guy's still funny. Really love Napoleon Diamond. I thought you said that you saw the socials that he's putting out. And I was like, where is he putting out? Where's Napoleon Dynamite? Like I just imagine him just like, Dick for sale. Dick for sale. Like, I thought he meant he was putting out. No, he's just making fun little, fun little vids. What I learned on this episode, MJ, is that I think Anthony Michael Hall might be the stupidest person I've ever seen. He's so dumb. And I love him. I think it's because of the fact that he got, I want to say, no, I can't because JoJo Siwa is smarter than he is. Like easily by a lot. Smarter than he is. I think, okay, but again, I think the difference is that Jojo Siwa has to prove herself. Yes. And Anthony

Michael Hall was beloved immediately from the time he, I mean, and actually, obviously he was famous for being like the little guy and the underdog. But I think he was- He was also famous for being the nerd. And I feel like, you should probably be a little smarter than that. No, he is, he is not smart. He is really the least smart of all of them. And so I think that that, what does that tell us? Becoming a child star 30 years ago leaves you dumber than being a child star now.

But I, honest, I think Jojo Cua's just got, she's just a little hungry doggy trying to seize the day. She's like, I will not be underestimated. I have learned things by never going to school. She's very smart and Anthony Michael Hall very dumb. And then Napoleon Dynamite just like seems to have lived like a very normal life after Napoleon Dynamite. So he's just like, again, just like a normal guy in his 40s over here being funny and acting like a normal guy. I would say even just watch this episode for the moment where Jojo Siwa is trying to explain to Ice Tea that she only dated women up until her current boyfriend because, look and he was like, oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. And like he's trying to be support him. And he was just like, Joe, just like, yeah, man, it's crazy. Yeah, I'm big brother, man. Yeah, I found my boyfriend. I'm big brother. That was oh, and he's just like, oh, wow. Yeah, that's great.

And just the look of just blankness on his face, I will also throw it out there. Andrew Yang, you are in so much trouble when you get home because they asked, they were asked, a BBL was and he didn't know what it was and then he found out and then he said I like if my wife had gotten one I'd know what it was and he's made like a joke about his wife's butt and then later on in the episode he's like baby you're your wife's perfect you're your butt's perfect I love you I love you baby and you knew that it was the kind of thing that the second he said it you knew

and he that he knew that they were going to leave that in the edit because it's funny and he knew that he had to say something or else because I was like, Andrew Yang, if you said that about my ass on national fucking television, I would have flipped out. But Andrew Yang's media training is dog shit. You'd think that as somebody who actually- But we want a universal income, MJ. This is the problem.

Andrew Yang is right about exactly one thing. And it is a universal basic income. There is nothing else. It's universal income. It's like the only thing I know about Andrew Yang. And it's like, that's the one thing I know and I like and I support. A stop clock is usually right twice a day. In this case, it's right once a day.

A universal basic income is a great idea. Everything else about that guy needs some work. And I'm surprised at how, I guess it just shows you how different media training is to do a presidential debate with what 25 fucking people versus to be on a reality show because he is just stepping on rakes. Everything he says makes him look more embarrassing, more of a doofus. And he, again, is just so insecure, so insecure. I know that we shouldn't take pleasure in other people's humiliation, but in this

case, I'm having a good time. I mean, that's what it's there for. They have signed up for this. They are enriching themselves based on their own public debasement. Yeah. And then they are still falling apart about like, like, Hilaria, I know. She just cannot handle. She went on to prove she's smart, and that's not what she's proving.

And she knows it. You can see that she knows that she's not doing well. And IST is great too because he doesn't care if people think he's smart or not. No, he doesn't care for the paycheck. He and he and Napoleon Dynamite have their arms around each other all the time. Oh, they're having a blast. I like watching them be forced to talk to each other because I like that they're all just in a room. And it's given me, I know.

I know it's nowhere near traders, but it gives me that level of just like, what would they all talk about? And then you watch them talking to each other. And you're just like, I'm more fascinated by that than the rest of it. Because what brings traders together is usually that they're like either like,

you know, kind of like hot ticket reality stars or, yeah, they're all kind of like, everyone on traders is like, is like not considered a has been for the most part. Right. They're like,

they're like at least a lot. level up from has been. Right. And everyone on nation's dumbest is there because they are already a laughing stock, right? Like everyone there is an established. Some of them are not even a has been. There never was. What? Yes. They're a want to be a husband. You know, they wish they could be a husband. And so, yeah, so watching the egos at play when they all know that they have very little to offer is tough. I want to talk about, you know what? Yeah, I was getting electrocuted.

Electrocuted right up from my butt up to my eyeballs. And that's because I was having such a great time watching King of the Hill. Probably not what you expected me to say. Again, I thought you were pivoting to Dylan Sprouse. I can't wait to talk about Dylan Sprouse yet. No, MJ, I need to talk about a very important episode of King of the Hill because they just, a couple of weeks ago, they dropped the current season of King of the Hill. Last year they dropped new king of the hill.

This is another season of new king of the hill. And is it and it's not like a, is it's, it's not like an, is it an, is it an extension of the current king of the hill? Like is it a present day. It's so Bobby's grown up like they're older. It is like things, things have changed. Okay. And it's awesome. And there was a great episode because I am a firm believer that Hank Hill might be one of the greatest television husbands of all times.

time, like, of, like, that ilk, right? It's, he's, he tries his best. There is an episode that Peggy is really struggling, and he figures out that it's because she's in menopause. And he, you think that the whole episode is going to be him going like, oh, oh, but the whole episode is him trying to do anything to help her and, like, to talk about it. And, like, he wasn't scared to talk about these things. and he even goes to the point,

he goes to the length of finding a weed store because next door Dale Gribble's wife, Nancy, she's like, you know what helps me, chug? And so he, Hank Hill goes to a weed store, asks all the questions and brings her home some weed. And the final, like the final part of the show was her and Min and Nancy standing out in the back alley

like the men do at the end of the night and they're all smoking a joint and they do the huh hey and they do the like just like them and it was that's beautiful an episode of an animated show that was just like thank you for this

that's beautiful that's why I like this show so much I like that he has always subverted your expectations for what a southern husband in Texas would be. How he always was with, you know, it's like he'd say like, the poor ain't rot, right? When he's, you know, carrying around like, that's my purse. I don't know you.

You know? And he does that, but he never, he loves Bobby for who he is. He loves his wife for her flaws. Like he, I know that I don't need to get on this soapbox. I just love Hank Hill so much. and the menopause episode just drove the final nail in the love coffin for me, and I needed to share it. That's great.

That's lovely. And what a beautiful thing to, like, have it be the same image of, like, what the men do every episode of the Sigs and then make it for the women. It was so beautiful. Like, I almost cried at the end of the episode. I was just like, that's beautiful. Thank you. It's also so nice to have a show that was so good for so long, like,

start again and then still be really good. Like, you all know that, like, I, to me, I'm happy for anybody who likes current Simpsons. I know there's great writers on Current Simpsons, like one of my favorite comedy writers is on Current Simpsons. But for me, it's just like when I think of the Simpsons, I think of that certain era. And like the idea of like that era, like the Conan O'Brien era of the Simpsons being, like having an episode where then we actually see Homer do something like really

thoughtful for March or something is actually very much. moving. I don't think like that specific thing is going to happen. And what we instead, I will die on the hill that Homer is, if not a good husband, a very loving husband. And he's, you know, one of my devoted, some might say, yes. One of my favorites quotes from the Simpsons is when he's, he and Marge are about to separate and he has to figure out what he has to offer her. And he says, Marge, I figured out what I have to have to offer. Complete and utter dependence. And Marge says, Homer, that's not a good thing. But it's very moving to that he thinks it's a really good thing, though.

And yeah, so to me, the Simpsons are just kind of will always be frozen in that time. And Marge ultimately never really gets, she never gets a moment like what, like what you just described. Right, right. She doesn't get that. Neither does like a Peg Bundy out there. She also doesn't get that. I feel like there's a lot of sitcom wives that deserve it, that never got it. But you know what wife is getting all the love and devotion?

wants. That's Barbara Spouse, MJ. We're talking about Dylan Sprouse and Barb. We're not even talking about Barbara right now. Do we need to start listening to Dylan Sprouse's podcast? With that other guy, whoever that guy is. And you know we're going to start listening to the freaking podcast. And then we're like, this guy. We love this guy. But the story that you included of how Dylan Spouse stopped. smoking cigarettes because David Lynch, who is his favorite director, gave him a cigarette. And he was so happy to share us, to smoke a cigarette with David Lynch that he decided that

would be his last one because there would never be a better cigarette than the one he smoked with David Lynch. What a reason to quit. What a reason to quit. I love this. What a reason to quit. There are so many millions of reasons to quit smoking cigarettes. And this could be one of them for you.

If I had gotten that opportunity, I get it. That's awesome. I think it's so cute. And then the additional cuteness of this story is that, so as Dylan tells it, he's like, you know, I was completely obsessed with Dave Lynch. She's there. I'm in this event with him. I want to talk to him.

I have no idea what to do. I go out for a cigarette. I'm completely like hyperventilating, freaking out. And then David Lynch comes out to him and says, hey, do you have a cigarette? And so Dylan Spouse gets to offer his hero a cigarette. And then they get to smoke a cigarette together. And then later, David Lynch offers someone else a cigarette. So Dylan Spouse realized that he had.

David Lynch didn't need a cigarette. He just asked for one because he knew that that would be a really nice thing. And he could tell that he was fan girling. And so he gave him an opportunity to speak to him in that. And thinking about that is such, it says so much about who David Lynch was. You know what I mean? It's really beautiful. That is really, he didn't have to do that.

No, but he could tell that he was fan girling, could tell that he wanted to talk to him, gave him an opportunity to talk to him. Dylan Spouse took it. It changed his life. And that is, especially in these days where I think a lot of people suffer from lack of human connection that we forget that like it's one of the many, not many, it's one of the, maybe the only reason I miss smoking cigarettes is the community aspect of going out to smoke a cigarette. Because I feel like back when we were in our 20s, I remember when I would try to quit smoking, I would keep smoking because I was like, yeah, but that's where everybody gets invited to do shows. When you're out smoking a cigarette is when

you find out more information. That's when you get into like the shit. You know what I mean? I think that I still remember the first conversation that you and I had where we were like, we should work together and it was out back. Like, I don't, I didn't smoke, but. I was having a cigarette. You were probably having a cigarette. Everyone was having a cigarette. It was outside.

Like, it's true. Like, that's where the connections were made. And it's true. I'm like, I'm so glad that this generation, um, or at least for a while, I think it sounds like that's changing. But for a while, this generation wasn't smoking cigarettes. We're taking it back. Back to Sigs.

20s. I guess, yeah, it's 20, 20s. I'm, you know, and I'm also glad that they're drinking less. But again, many. many many meaningful moments of connection were made even as a non-smoker were made via cigarettes. But yeah, I thought that this story from Dylan was just so sweet. And he also says that he's kind of like incorporated the like the kindness with which David Lynch approached him as a fan girl. It has informed how Dylan responds to people who are fan growing over him that he's like,

David Lynch just did not have to treat me with such respect and give me such an opportunity to like have a connection like that. And he's like, and I try to like give that gift to people who I can tell are nervous about interacting with me, which is so nice. It is just, man, Cole and Dylan Spouse seem to not be able to be any more different from each other. Now because the eye it lingers, I've been seeing more Dylan Spouse podcast content. This is why I'm like, oh my God, do I have to watch this? because now I find out he's a big wife guy. He really loves Barbara. And he knows that Barbara is by far much better than he is

and knows that like he and he's very devoted to her. He is about to become a girl dad. He's so excited about becoming a girl dad. And he even openly said it's funny because Cole said people, Cole said people keep coming up to him and congratulating him. And it's so funny because he's just so the opposite of me just like hunched, smoking a cigarette and them coming over. Meanwhile, I'm just like, yeah, I'm going to be a girl, Dad. Yeah.

And just such a, the way he talks about the difference between the two of them is it's got to be, I mean, it's got to have been difficult since the beginning of time to be so different. But then also to be doing a lot of the same things, but to also be twins. It's best since they were socialized, the exact same, too. It's not even like you could be like, oh, well, of course, Cole's fucked up because he's a child star, you know, like. It's, it's, yeah, fascinating social experiment to have two kids who were put on the road to fucked upness. Like the road, no better way to ensure you're going to be a fucked up adult than to be a child star. Man, you know, MJ, remember how we technically met because you and John had a show? And then you like to bring on Henry and I because we were also siblings that also did comedy.

Yeah. I do wonder if like the spruces, the Culkins, the Olsons, like, do they, do they ever come together to be like, man, we're all fucked, huh? Like, this is crazy, right? I know McColley was not a twin specifically, but like, you know, I guess you throw, but do you throw a Scars Guard in there? I don't know. Like, it's just for siblings. Like, do you have the Yelan hulas? Like, man, also talk about MJ, I should have sent it to you.

this interview that, I don't know if it was resurfaced or if it was recently, maybe it may have been recent, been recent, Maggie Yilin Hula was talking about how difficult it was to go through her younger sibling skyrocketing with Donnie Darko right past her. Really? I've always thought of her as higher than him. I know. And she was like, I have been, she's like, I've genuinely struggled with. this my whole life. Oh, Maggie. But also it's like it makes me feel like I that's like thank you for sharing that. Isn't it so insane that no matter sometimes how much you succeed, you're still going to compare yourself to your siblings? Right. Like that's just forever. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a, that's an interesting one because I have, yeah, I've just, I've always thought of her, especially because I think she's made more like prestigious move or I don't know I think she's

considered more of like an indie like darling and that Jake Gyllenhaal kind of went the way of like the blockbuster and so I just secretary was my everything like totally I mean oh yeah didn't I just see a video of them they were

cooking together what you know what I'm talking about Maggie and Jake Yilanula? Yeah yeah I just saw like a fun a fun with them um they've never fun before MJ. I doubt it. Maybe that's where this conversation came from because I didn't know why she was in my feed or in the circuit at all. So maybe they just didn't interview. Oh my God.

Also that Tom Dea interview with them with the puppies. Oh, they had the interview with the puppies. Oh, I know. Oh, dude. That came up when we were doing Tuesday show and I was trying to read one of your articles from BuzzFeed and the auto play was Tom and Tom Dea with the puppies. I was like, get out of here. I can't focus. Oh my God. I love them. I yeah. I just, you know, we have time for a lot of things in this life. But one thing I think we definitely don't have time for is to learn how to method act. And I just want to say thank you so much, Anya Taylor Joy, for calling out the fact that women don't method act. And you know why?

Because they have other better things to do, which is essentially what she said. And I think that is so funny that she's just like, I, who's got that? She's like, yeah, we're dedicated. Yeah, it doesn't mean we don't show up and that we can, we cannot like begat similar performances, but we don't need that shit because we don't got time for that shit. Yeah, and she also talks about, it's interesting. So the article also mentions that last year Kristen Stewart spoke about this. And for Kristen Stewart's analysis was that like men method act because they have to make the

act of acting, which is like vulnerable and artistic. they have to make it more masculine. So like to method act is to like take it to the extreme and to like separate your own. Yeah. Like she says performance is inherently vulnerable and therefore quite embarrassing and unmasculine. There's no bravado in suggesting that you're a mouthpiece for someone else's ideas. And so she says it's inherently submissive. Have you ever heard of a female actor that was method?

That was Kristen Stewart. So basically suggesting that like men do this, take on this extreme way of acting as a way of like coping with the inherent like submissiveness of it, which I think is also really interesting and much more like Freudian. And then, yeah, Anya Taylor-Joy's just much more practical where she's just like, women are on set and like the relationships that you build and the way you act on set with like the people, your wardrobe and makeup and all of the, and the director and the script supervisor and everybody you're working with, if you're just in character that whole time,

you are going to be alienating everybody. Nobody had, like she says, A, we're too busy doing other stuff. but B, we don't have the privilege of like acting like a huge asshole on set because then as women, we will just be much more likely to be written off. And so she's like, we can't do that. We can't throw ourselves out. No. Do this care in the service of this character because we have to manage everything else, including our public image. Everything else.

And men, especially men of a status of like a Robert Pattinson, you know, or Marlon Brando, they don't have to manage. manage that image as much. They don't have to manage. They're just less managers of themselves. And so, yeah, I thought that I really like Anya Taylor Joy. I think she's a really interesting person.

And I think that she's gorgeous. But also, speaking of this too, I just saw the trailer. Oh my God. I'm about to blow chunks everywhere. I just saw the trailer for the social reckoning, which I don't know if this is the, sequel of the social connection or social

whatever. The social network? The Facebook one. Zuckerberg. I'm talking Jeremy Strong is an uncanny Marks Zuckerberg and Aaron Sorkas. Each word most of the last. I mean I like Jeremy Strong. I'm blowing chunks. Especially I saw the trailer in Screen X and I was just like, it's everywhere. He's everywhere. And I want to blow chunks everywhere. Yeah, no, I'm not a large Aaron Sorkin fan.

I know that many people out there love West Wing and I'm happy for you, but I'm not a large Aaron Sorkin fan. Also, I'm there for C. Jane. We all know it. And I'm an even smaller Zuckerberg fan. And I love Jeremy Strong, but I think I might just love Jeremy Strong in Succession. It's hard to know. I think I only love Jeremy Strong in Succession.

Like, I love Kendall Roy. I love Jeremy Strong. Yes. I don't know, you know. And especially because. I don't like this. It does seem like he is given something in this trailer. I just really, man, I wanted to slap the look right off of his face, the whole trailer.

So how are people going to make it through the movie? I'm watching it. He just looks so stupid. I hate his stupid face. And you know what? I don't want to look at Mark Zuckerberg. And I don't want to look at Jeremy Strong pretending to be Mark Zuckerberg. Because everything that Anya Taylor Joy was saying makes me think of this movie.

Yes, yes, because Jeremy Strong is such a famous method actor, but is it possible that him being a kind of inherently obnoxious person is actually genius casting. Like Kendall Roy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You mean a big, like, kind of whiny baby? Yeah.

He's perfect that. He's, he's, no, it's perfect casting, MJ. Yeah. He's the perfect face I don't want to look at. Uh-huh. And that, and I love Jeremy. I do, like, you're right, though. I think I like Kendall Roy, though.

Do you, MJ? Like, do you like that? Like, would you want to meet Kendall Roy? No. No, no, no. I don't want to meet Kendall Roy. This is an intro. Okay, so.

But then I saw Bill Burrs. And I was just like, oh, I was like, what is it? Jeremy Allen White is just doing the most. Yeah, Jeremy Allen White. Jeremy is another one where I'm like, I just finished the last bear. And I was like, I don't need, I don't think I need. I didn't even watch. the sexy Bruce Springsteen movie, Jeremy Allen White.

There's something about your, like, there's something about your mouth that looks like a sock puppet that used to have dentures, but then somebody pulled the dentures out. I thought you wanted to kiss him. I think I don't anymore. You lost it. I think I'm so annoyed by the like too cool that I think I've lost, I think I've gotten the ick.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that to be an actor like Jeremy Allen White or Jeremy Strong, you can fly so close to the sun of being like a little weasel man who everybody loves. And then you can just carefully go over the edge into a little weasel man that everybody hates. Yes. And I think that that might be the arc that Jeremy Allen White is quite true. I don't want to be ungenerous.

You know, I love him. I know. And I do like him as an actor. It's just think in the scene of looking, seeing him in the social reckoning. And I was just like, oh, all right. Come on. What are we doing here? Okay.

Well, so I'll have to figure out, I'll have to figure out the whole, I'm going to go on a deep dive. It's presumably the, yeah, it's a companion piece to the social network. Oh, it's about the, it's about the 2021 like leak. Yeah, okay, gross. Yeah, I remember it. It was like five years ago. I don't need a freaking movie about it. And also like, like that's just pure, unless it's a pure evil, it's a story of by 2021, if

making a story about Facebook, the story must be this is everyone involved is evil. Like, I don't want any redemption. I don't want, I don't, and that's the thing. Jeremy Strong is actually good at making like a really anti-hero who's also like kind of redeemable. And I don't want any redemption for Marks out of Merg. It is scary too. It's not even, it's just, it's not even just written by Aaron Sorkin. It is written, co-produced and directed by Aaron Sorkin. So it is, oh, it's the Traficta. Yeah. And so no. Nobody's telling Aaron where to walk or where to talk. And that is the way he likes it, I imagine.

Yeah. But you know, it's okay to see a movie and decide that's just not for me. Yeah. And this is one of them. I don't trust this because I think that the Sorkin likes to do these big, grandios, make these big grandiose, like exploring like moral ambiguity of like the powerful and I just don't think there's any more ambiguity with Mark Zucker for. Right now, do we need this?

Do we need to be like, oh, I guess the billionaire's got feelings too? I don't give this. We don't need a brilliant actor to portray an evil billionaire. Send him all into the screens. I think we need to figure out. I think I really came up with something earlier. Reverse engineer, Purple Rose of Cairo. I think we can start putting them into, like in Twilight.

own the movie when he zaps his sister into the cartoon. I think that we need more of those capabilities. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fine. You know, back when I used to host my lefty podcast with my brother, which was called Radio Dispatch, we were anti-carceral, but we often wanted to punish very powerful people. And so we would talk about shooting them into space. And I think, weirdly enough, now we actually do have that technology pioneered by Katie Perry. you know, we could just put them in space and leave them there for a while. Leave them there, I think, till they learn a lesson is the main idea. But I put them into the screen.

On like a pleasure cruise, right? We say, oh, you're going on a pleasure cruise to Mars. And then we on yara them and we hit them. And then all of a sudden the spaceship is going in the other direction and there's no way for them to turn around. Yeah, whoops, it's going to crash into the moon. You got oniara. Like, I think that that is a movie. Definitely everybody is referencing all the time.

Swedish sci-fi movie that I'm obsessed with, which I am. Also, Adam, I didn't even let you know. We will be watching that on my birthday this year because, yes, I do like to watch upsetting movies on my birthday, and I've already chosen my upsetting movie for this year, and that is Onyara. Oh, yeah, Jackie, when? Well, next week will be your birthday show. Next week will be birthday show. Yeah, it's creeping on up there. Leo season, man, it rips right through you. And I know that we're not the only people that are covered in Leo's just because we're entertainers. I do know that there is the most amount of birthdays in the month of August because we are

holiday screws. Holiday screws. So you got to get those holiday screws out eight or nine months later, you know? Maybe. Oh. We are, that's the Lindsay fucking ham that we love. Because we're holiday screws because sometimes your holiday screws turns into something you have to deal with for the rest of your life.

life, Ebenezer. Before he was Scrooge. Oh, he was always Ebenezer. Oh, yeah, you know, he's still Ebenezer. He was then. He is now. I'm so filled with a rage. Did I see another trailer for it?

Before he was. Yes, I did. Before he was Parker. He was Peter. I need. It's like, yeah, we know that part of the story. Oh my gosh. I'm just so, you know, it's

it's good to have this kind of rage about the holidays and what, like, it's good that we're putting it towards a movie this year. You know what I mean? Yes, I think that that's good. And also, just to end the show on a positive note, I do think we should talk about how good Spider-Man is doing and as a, it's a real go-to-the-the-th theater film.

Bro, it's a go-to-the-three-x theater film. It is so fun. It's breaking records. It's careening beyond expectations. And I saw a great TikTok that was just like, you know, all the directors racing to cast either Tom Holland or Zendaya in any movie coming out next year. And they're taking a break. They're taking a break.

And also they have good taste. You know, this is the thing about, honestly, the thing about somebody like Jeremy Strong and Jeremy Allen White doing a movie like the social reckoning is like, I want you to have better taste than that. And when you are a really good actor and you do, a movie that is obviously going to be like a soft propaganda piece for Mark Zuckerberg, even if it's presented as like, oh, it's hard for him or whatever.

Like, I get an ick because I want you to have discerning taste. And one of the many things that puts Tom Dea at the top of the pile right now is that they make good movies. Now, I know everybody, not everybody liked the drama, but it seems like Zendaya is at thoughtful. Yeah, you liked it. And it seems like she's at least thoughtful in the, she's trying to be interesting choices. It was something that we talked about.

It was something like she likes to. choose things that challenge her. Challengers? Well, like challengers, yeah, I mean, that was challenged. Yeah, I mean, that was challenging. Yeah. But it is crazy. Like, I mean,

Zendaya, what's drama, Dune, Spider-Man, Euphoria, Odyssey, all this year. Yeah. Like, that's crazy. That is crazy. Yeah. Take some time off, bitch. Take some time on. Go look at a wave or something. I don't know.

You need something. Go look at a deer. Yeah, come to me. Go go to MJ. Come to me. Oh, go, oh, oh. Yes, I'm still singing Les Mis. Oh, you're singing Les Mis.

You didn't recognize it? Come to me. Because it, because it's happening. Yeah, yeah, I know. That's it. That's the one. I was funny because yesterday I was singing, Bring her back.

Because I saw the poster for Bring her back. And then Jeff was like, what are you singing? And then I tried to explain. I was like, oh, because every time MJ and I think about the movie, bring her back,

we sing, bring her back to the tune of bring him home from Les Mids. And Jeff was like, oh, okay. I just watched his eye. And he's like, okay. I'm like, yeah,

don't never ask me what I'm singing. Never. You don't want to know. Like in The Simpsons when you just hear in their brain, the footsteps walking towards the door, slamming the door, and then driving the car away.

Yeah, and j, j, And then I never saw him again. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us as we got all full up today. And I hope that you... Until you're so full, but I don't want you to be blowing chunks all over Manhattan the way I was earlier in the episode.

Because of... Not SpaceX. Screen X. Well, no, yeah, I forgot. No, I was blowing chunks about something else. I already don't remember. So this is good. This is how my brain protects itself.

Yeah. Yeah. No, let it in and out. Well, thank you guys to all of you also who have been watching us over on YouTube and leaving comments

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