Page 7 - Second Helpings - WHEEL OF MISFORTUNE

Episode Date: September 12, 2026

Jackie and MJ are BACK with some slippy sloppin' Second Helpins as they start it RIGHT OFF with the fact that Jim Thornton really did do what he did. On a plane. Meghan Markle and Harry are COOOOOMIN' HOOOME to the UK because NO ONE WANTS 'EM IN AMERICA! Then we got some announcements regardin' a new hour of Page 7! Nikolas Sparks and M. Night Shyamalan have teamed up to create a book, AND movie. It was family day on the newest episode of 'Nation's Dumbest' and Jackie can't deny the Baldwin charms. Then Hilaria decided to make the announcement of the newest cast of 'Dancing With the Stars' aaaaall about her, Kylie Kelce basically let everyone know that she's raising 4 girls and 1 husband, and Jason Kelce proved he's a big ol' dumdum with his remarks about paternity leave. 'Lets Marry Harry' appears to be a master class in poor decisions while deep in grief. The first half of the newest season of 'Secret Lives of Mormon Wives' has dropped! 'Monster's of God' is still upsetting! 'Buddy' has got parents UPSET, but Coyote vs ACME is amazing! Then we got a VERY SPOILER HEAVY talk of 'Obsession'., including the issues happenin' with Halloween Horror Nights. And MJ got tickets to finally share the same air as Clay Aiken! PLUS SO MUCH MORE!!!!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It will and it's coming at you hard, fast, loose. What is it, my bowels? No, it's second helpings. Welcome to second helpings. I'm Jackie Zabrowski. And I'm MJ. The story of our week was still Dolly, but your second helping of the week is the breaking news that you should not join a pedo chat room on a plane.

Whoa. Whoa. MJ, what are you talking about right out the gate? Is it a real? of misfortune. Yes, it is misfortune for this man who, oh man, does he want to grab? He wants to grab at the littles. But no, no, no, you have to take your flight and coach first.

But yeah, we're going to get into that. I have to get into it. That's the thing. You sent me the story and I read it like three times and I was like, what? And then you explained it to me and I was like, okay, that is what? It seems impossible. It seems impossible that in 2026 that someone who is going into chat rooms that I'm going to say probably shouldn't be in, especially shouldn't be in public, especially if you're in coach, especially if you're in an aisle seat, especially if it's the middle of a day, especially if you're going to be in that chat room for over an hour talking about boy phase. And if you're the host of Wheel of Fortune, which is just like such an unexpected little twist, you know, to be like you're a celebrity enough that, that some people recognize you, you should know better, but also.

They're not going to recognize your face, but I will say, MJ, that idiot just lost the cushiest job he could ever have. He was just the, not that I'm saying just, but he was the announcer for Wheel of Fortune. and he was doing that job for about 15, 16 years, and that's a good gig, y'all. Yeah. Oh, he lost his job. Oh, no. And I know that he wasn't like the Pat Sejack of Wheel of Fortune,

but still I feel like since Pat Sejack left, not many of us are thinking about Wheel of Fortune, so it just adds a little. Except for Vanna, yes. Yeah, I mean, you know, God bless. Talk about good gig. I mean. It just adds a little twist like, oh, Will of Fortune's still on.

When do people watch it? How do people watch it? During the day. Yeah. Good. I'm glad that that world still, you know, every so often my kids will like accidentally click away from what they're streaming into like the weird part of the TV. Like we don't have cable, but somehow, you know, somebody will sit on the remote and

it'll take you to a weird part of the TV. To a weird subsection of the television that I do feel that the television does have different dimensions, and we're going to find that out later on, because I do, right, there must. Because sometimes all, like, I found out that there is some, and it's not cable, it's like whatever, like you're talking about, one of those channels that my TV just.

Like, a lot of order is on. Why? There's one channel that only ever shows Portlandia, and I don't know why, and I don't know why when we randomly touch the remote that all of a sudden, the channel that somewhere in the TV, TV receives only Portlandia plays. And I, who's that channel for? You know, Portland is a great show.

It's a great show. It's a great show. And I think it really, it was, I'm not going to say ahead of its time, but really truly did something for the culture that we needed. Throwing down there, watched the first like three episodes like last week. And it still is like that. in Portland to this day. It really hasn't changed much and it's so funny. The first, you remember the first episode? And I don't know why. I think it was just, I think an ex-roommate

had the DVD and I remember watching the first episode so many times because it has the like, you know, like it's always the 90s in Portland, like that song that they have at the beginning of it. And I just think, I really think about that show too often. And I, am I magicing this into existence? the channel, I mean. I don't know. You know, because we all do need the channel where Law & Order is always on. It's a little scary that my kids keep accidentally going to this because, again, I don't have cable. I don't know why they have access to the all-in-order all the time channel. And if you ever watched any episode of Law & Order, you know that even three seconds, you could come into hearing the worst sentence you've ever heard, like the most explicit, graphic, yet somehow appropriate for prime time description of sexual violence you've ever heard. And I'm like, every time they're like, law and order's on again. I'd like leap for the remote. Like, why? If it could go to a Portlandia all the time channel, that would be great. I'd be like, put a bird on it.

Exactly. Yeah, we put a bird on it. And then the kids would understand that. Then you could start saying, you should put a bird on it to the kids. And then they're going to laugh about that. They're going to laugh hysterically about it. They're going to love it. And, you know, do we want to lead with the peto chat room story?

I don't know. But the other, I do want to talk about Kylie Kelsey and her useless husband. but people always scream at us when we talk about the Kelsey's industry. We talk about Megan Markle moving back to the UK. For sure. Oh, people don't like that either. Actually, and I am going to use this opportunity to promo our new show that is starting next week called Page 7 Darksided, where we will be getting into all of those things.

Yes, I don't know if you heard about this over on the Who's the Bitch feed, but we're switching things up and Who's the Bitch is now going to be a live only show that, yes, we will take the audio from and yes we will drop all of that audio onto all of the platforms where you hear your audio podcast as well. So don't worry about that. We're still going to be doing bitchlets. You can still get all of that information. However, I realize that here on page seven, we have so much fun talking light, talking the easy topics. And unfortunately, in this hour Lord's Year of 2026, a lot of the information out there about celebrities is pretty, dark. And I'd like to get into some of that stuff, and I will be getting into it alongside my co-host, Kara Clank, and it will be your new third hour of page seven. So if you also have a lot of feelings about Megan Markle that have nothing to do with race, that has a lot to do with how she doesn't do her work and how, man, how many headlines there are that's like, Megan Markle, you're too much of a bitch for the

United States. I know. Every headline is like, you got to go. All right, you got to take this monarchy ass attitude and take it overseas. Yeah, I mean, it's, I know I talk a lot about how much Megan is in the blinds. And I'm like, does she, does she just make enemies? Like, I'm not saying that if you're in the blinds, it's because you deserve it. But like, she, it is like there is, she must make enemies of every person.

Like, this is the thing, guys. I know that being nice doesn't get you everywhere, but I truly believe in being a good person. And part of that, yes, maybe heads into people pleasing territory. However, one of those things is that I would never burn a bridge ever unless that bridge really needs to be burned. And then, oh, baby, I'm lightning, I'm lighten it. But I feel like Megan Markle doesn't care. I don't think that or she's at a place where it just doesn't matter. Like she is not here to people, please.

Which, govah, there's a portion of it. It's a govah. Yeah. But it does seem like she's mean to everybody. Yeah. I mean, I think that Harry is annoying. I think that Megan is annoying. Why?

Just because he has ownership of Africa, MJ, doesn't mean that Prince Harry's just annoying. I, you know, I am happy for all the people that ship their kids away. But it is crazy that we read the Prince Harry memoir, and I saw that the oldest, I don't even remember their names, the oldest kid of Kate and William is now being sent George. George is being sent to Eaton. I know. Eat, Eaton, Eaton, Eaton College. I think it's eaten. Eaton College.

And where everybody hated it. where Charles wanted to want her to die. Harry hated it. His mother had just brutalized there. His mother had just died. I know. And I love that they're like,

send him to the trauma. I don't know. He sent him to where we got our trauma. Now I want him to get his trauma the way he shod. Away from us. A photo up. A photo up where the trauma begins. Yeah.

And there was an article. There was an article that was like, I think it was in the Daily Mail or one of the British ones that was just like, boarding school is one of the worst things that the Brits have to offer. I imagine. Although, MJ, how bad did you want to be sent

to boarding school? I remember, I think it was three men and a little lady, which did I reference that often every time I saw sheep when I was in Ireland? Yes, I did. Is no one thinking about the movie, Three Men and a Little Lady, which yes, is the sequel to Little Three Men and a Baby.

It's because she's growing up. I remember. And you remember the scene where they can't get to the chapel because of all the sheep. And did I reference it all the time? Yes. Did no one in Ireland remember it? Correct. But also, did my mom keep bringing up sheep detectives to every single Irish person we met and did every single Irish person say, I don't know what, I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, the sheep, the sheep, how they figure out the crime, huh? Irish people sound off. What is the most annoying thing that Americans bring to you to ask you? Is it now sheep detectives? Is it sheep detectives? Is it sheep detective?

Yeah. Is it, I'm sure that people really run the gamut of annoying things to say to Irish people. But I remember watching that movie thinking, please send me to boarding school. Please, please, please, please send me away. I'm going to go be a bad girl. I'm going to be the bad girl of the boarding school, even though I don't think I could be the bad girl of the boarding school. Because I'm pretty sure the bad people of the boarding school are the ones that usually sometimes run the boarding school. But not all of them.

Maybe it's just because they can't all be mistrined. Are you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Michael Kay. Sidehouse Rules. Siderhouse Rules was an orphanage, not a boarding school. And I dare say, why don't we make them the same thing? Orphanage boarding schools. We don't want to give that kind of infrastructure to orphans. I think that they deserve it.

Boarding schools, I seem to be orphanages for the rich. You know, it's like your parents don't want to take care of you. And again, Brits sound off. I think that also, not to utter these words, but I think that Harry Potter made a lot of people want to go to boarding school, you know. But this is the problem is that you're not going to go learn how to be a wizard.

You know, this is inherently my problem with all of these schools and you're so right, MJ, I wanted to be sent away to become magic. But also to suck dick. And I wanted to be sent over there so that no. No one would know what I was doing. And I'm wearing, you know, the Catholic, I don't know, except you're not wearing Catholic School Girl outfit. I think it's the opposite that because I think it's privatized.

So I think it's, you're wearing the owner and what they want you to wear's clothes. But like, have we learned nothing from Paris Hilton? I think we should take a little. I think that you're missing a keep. I should allow Brits are screaming on the left side of their cars right now or the right side of their cars. Whoa. Because because they drive on the other side of the road.

But I think that the boarding school is... Because a three men and a little lady? I think that boarding school is gender segregated. And I'm sure they bang. But like, I think that there's usually... That would make it even better for me. I'm sure they bang within. And I'm sure they bang betwixt.

Like, my husband went to an all-boys school and his sister went to an all-girls school. Oh, and did they not have fun? And did they receive only trauma? MJ? Did it nearly ruin his life? Yes. Yes.

Did it really? Did he barely finish that school? Yes. But I think that the boy, I think that then they had like dances together. But man, I imagine how sexually charged it would be. Yeah, you would be so. Oh my God. Could you imagine looking at them from across? I would be, especially with how horny I was as a teenager, I would just be like vibrating up against the wall.

Just be like, they're never going to pick me. Except instead, I went to public school and I was just grimy. grinding on them. And I was like, let me back the drug up. Go, oh, let me get on in there. I was just hanging out with a high school friend, and we were reminiscing. Not, they are not in high school, though. No, no, a friend from high school.

We were reminiscing about high school, and he brought up a dame of, like, a really nice kid from high school. And the singular memory I have of this kid, who was such a nice kid, such a nice guy, he was a little older than me, one of my brother's friends. and he always said hi to me when he saw me and that including the time at the dance when we were, it was during a slow dance, I don't know who I was dancing with, but I was out there.

Whoa, you were out there during a slow dance? I was out there. Again, who could it have been? I don't know. But me and this like acquaintance like rotated towards each other, made eye contact, he gives me a big smile and nod

like he always does, whilst his hands are like firmly grabbing the ass of his slow dance partner. Yeah. You gotta get the meat haunch is enough. You see, you know, you say this MJ, but you're not around

Jeff and I enough to have to ever feel that because I forget because Jeff and I grab on each other all the time. So we're always... I've been around it. I've seen it. You've seen how we grab and people... And I say, God bless it. Thank you. I think it was different when you're like 14 and it's like an older

and haunches. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you're like, you can't even acknowledge the existence of horniness at that time. But, no, I'm fine with ass grab all you want when you're an adult. And honestly, you know, when you're a teen, good for him. Nice that he still said hi. You know, I just felt like I was. Nice that he still said hi. Even when both of his hands were full.

And isn't that nice? Yeah, and he could give a nice high without even taking his hands off the ass, which is a sign of what a nice guy he was, you know? That's how you know that guy is nice. And you know we're going to hear from this ad coming up. But then maybe I'm going to talk about an M. Night Shyamalan Nicholas Sparks collab. Hold on your hats. Jeff last night made me watch the trailer for this new movie that is, yes, you heard that correctly. An M. Knight Shyamalan Nicholas Sparks collab.

And you're wondering Nicholas Sparks from the notebook, you'd be correct. And if you're wondering M. Night Shyamalan from old, you would also. be correct. I love that we only reference old. Old. Even though, other great movies, I, you guys know here, I love a Sharmelon. I love the fact that he writes the screenplays, he directs it himself, he uses his own production company, and he won't take any input from any other people, which is why I'm surprised about the Nicholas Sparks thing. But then I saw at the end of the trailer, still screenplay by M. Night Shyamalan, still directed by Nightjama on. So in my head, Nicholas Sparks just came by and he would just randomly like

whisper inside of his ear just as a way to like, maybe you should do this. Maybe she's a ghost. And it makes me so upset because MJ, MJ, sorry, being Forrest Gump for a second. I like it. Keep it. I don't die. We're not going out of a liar. I am die. I am thinking about, you know, is she a ghosts, like it's definitely, it's a Yelan Hula. Also, Sharmelan and Yelanhula. That's two great tastes, tastes great together. I feel

like Nicholas Sparks and M. Night Shambalong together is like, it's like an improv game where you have to like choose two different genres, you know, out of the hat, and then you have to combine them. You're like, well, the notebook meets the village. And you're like, okay, everybody thinks it's

a hundred years ago, but really, there's just a fence around them. Spoiler for the village. Spoiler for the village. Spoiler for the village. MJ, I was rocked by that ending. Okay. I was the perfect age.

I had no idea where it was going. I remember seeing it in the movie theater. And I was like, oh my God. Like I was too young and stupid that I loved it. Yeah. No, it's fine. Wasn't Yel and Hula in my Shamblaah movie? What am I thinking of? Are you thinking about Josh Hartnett in the concert one where he goes to

like a Taylor Swift where M. Knight-Sharmelon's daughter was the pop star who did all of the music for the movie? I do remember that one. No, I don't know what I'm thinking of. Which, which, what's the name of the movie, Jackie? I got to, I got to Google this. The Nicholas Sparks. I think it's like the remember, the remembering, the Remain. Remain. That's what it is. I knew the REM part of it. I knew the band side of it. Come on. And it's Jake.

It's the Jake of the Yelan Lerner. Yes. Sorry. Yeah. Which I'm not going to say that I'm surprised. But I am a little surprised that Yelan Hula would sign on for a Sharmelan joint collab with Nicholas Sparks. I know that we, I don't know if this is a controversial thing to say, but I think he's the lesser of the Yelan Hulahs. And I say that as somebody who thirsted for him in the Donny Darko days.

And dreamed really of a specific type of threesome with Toby McGuire and Jake Gyllenhaugh. You wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Exactly. You got to thank you. I'm so glad that I'm not the only one. Oh, yeah. But also, Maggie Yilling Hula. Oh, I wouldn't get caught a bit.

I remember secretary. Boing, boing, boing, boing. I watched that movie quite a lot when I was younger. I'm laughing because I feel like the conversation where we realized that their names are originally Yelanhula was like a decade ago. And I imagine that many of our listeners are like, why do you call them that? That's how you say their last name. It's Yelanhula. And we hear, you know, we strive for pronunciation perfection.

Oh, yeah. We say every word perfectly and people love how I say words. Yes. And especially, you know who I. love and how she says her words, that would be Hilaria Baldwin. I, yes. Poor, poor Adam had to listen to me just like go on and up as I'm watching Hilaria and Alec because it was Family Week on Nation's dumbest.

Bring in Alex. So Alec showed up and God damn it. MJ, they're both very funny and very, and they can be very charming. And it makes me so annoyed. He is so funny. He's so funny. And I despot. Like, I hated his Trump.

I, it's, on SNL. It should have been Anthony Atamanick. Like, I did not like Baldwin's Trump. I thought it completely, it was just, I thought it was really heavy handed. Whoa. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it just, it was just like, there's Trump impressions and then there's like

nuanced Trump impressions. And Baldwin's wasn't that. And there's so many reasons to hate Alec Baldwin. I didn't even read the. blind. Maybe if we're bored later, I should read you the blind about him that I didn't do on yesterday's show. There's so many reasons to hate him, the biggest of which is the manslaughter, but he is very funny. It is funny. I saw some meme because Alec Baldwin posted a picture of him getting his hair bleached, so it had all the tin, or died, and so it had all the tin foil on it.

And underneath it someone made it into a meme, and it said, the look of a man who will kill again, and I just laughed and I laughed and I laughed. Not that I'm laughing at the death of the woman. I just, I'm laughing at Alec Baldwin. And it is really crazy that they can just go on reality shows and just be like, I didn't kill a woman. You know, it's, I'm just Alec Baldwin. It actually is almost Trumpian how he is just like,

I'm just going to plow through. Like, yeah, I kind of, it was like a clerical error that led to, to me not getting sentenced for anything here. Not a clerical or exactly, but it was like a, you know, it was a matter of like logistics. Of contract, yeah. Yeah, not of like the actual facts of the case. Of who is at fault, you know, when it comes to like producers and things like that.

It was like a lawyer mess up. That's the only reason that he didn't end up having any legal accountability. And also, she just powered through having pretended to be a Spanish woman for, you And she's just like, I'm going to pretend it didn't happen. It was so fascinating because I've watched a bunch of episodes of Nations Dumbus. So this was the penultimate guys. And yeah, don't worry. And spoiler alert, Hilaria also wasn't kicked off this week either.

She's still going strong, y'all. We are down to two people. It is her and some, I think he's like a TikTok guy or something. Oh, that guy. Yeah. That guy. It's just her and him. And he's real dumb.

He was really dumb. Bro, Anthony Michael Hall just got kicked out. He is really dumb. He is dumb. Like, that man is stupid. But like Anthony Michael Hall at least has been alive long enough to accumulate some wisdom. That's why the influencer guy. I feel like he's just young and dumb.

Yeah. You have the right to be dumb. He's a baby. But Alaria. The fact that Alaria has made it much further in Nation's dumbness than she made it on Dancing with the Stars. Has to be killing her. Oh my God, MJ.

When the cast of Dancing with the Stars dropped, MJ sent me hilarious and what she posted, where she posted a whole, oh my God, she was just like talking. She's like, in her bed. In her bed. Talking into the camera. And she was like, I understand.

Not everybody has sad problems with joyous styles. right? And Julia Stiles and Jenna with their background and dance, okay? The way that I had background in dance, okay? And she made it all about her.

She made it all about her. She's like this season of Dancing with the Stars is a referendum on my season. On my season and what I went through last season. And if you think that we are exaggerating about the accent, like yeah, she doesn't quite sound like that, but

I dare you. If you think, why, you still piling on Hilaria after all this stuff. I dare you to go to her Instagram, watch any video of her, and tell yourself, this woman grew up in Boston, and then listen to how she talks. This woman grew up in Boston,

pretended to be from Spain to the extent that for years, Alec Baldwin is saying interviews, my wife is Spanish, my wife is from Spain. And now, and now she just talks with this affectation

as if she is an English language learner, and it is so weird. Every time I send all these rules to Jackie, because I'm like, can you explain what's going on here? Just honestly, you know, I love a Mariah. I love somebody that just like, oh, I'm a bitch. You want to see how much of a bitch I can be.

You know, I love that. I love just, and part of me does kind of love it because on the episode where Alec was also on, she turned that, like, Latina accent up to an 11. It was Mui, Mui, assento during episode nine in front of Alec and that's fascinating to me

because I do wonder if there's just like the fetus like the fetidization I won't say it. I won't say it right. You got it. And I do feel that there's like a level of that

except he still just gets a white woman from boss. I shouldn't say white woman. he still just gets a woman from Boston. You know what I mean? An American woman from Boston. Yeah, like you're suggesting he gets hard for imagining that she's a Spanish woman. I mean, we watched 30.

Yes, and we watched 30 rock. And this is kind of a thing for him. And he said over and over for years in interviews, my wife is Spanish, my wife is from Spain. And so maybe she plays it up around him to turn him on. Man, they post so many videos of themselves. like getting all over each other. I'm like... Get it. Get a room.

I also like... And again, we were just talking about this. I am very affectionate with my partner, but there's something about watching the two of them. That and every... Yeah, because he's like laboriously moving his body. You know, he's just like so old and miserable. Where he's just like this.

And she's like, I don't know. And she's like hopping on him. Yes. Exactly. And so many of them, because unfortunately, MJ, I don't even. follow hilaria, but because of you, I get a lot of hilaria on my algorithm. And it is crazy how many of the videos are him being like, ready for baby number eight.

And she's like, no, no, no, no, no. Why? Why are we still? Why are you making these videos? I also, I'm sorry. as someone that has never given birth to a child, I imagine it's probably, like, and MJ, you can clear this up for me. If Gideon was always like, come on, another baby, come on, baby, baby, baby, and you're the one that has to have it. How does that make you feel?

Well, I think in general I would agree that that's not a good look, but I do, and I hate to say this about anybody. but I do think that she had those children as part of her branding. And I'm sorry, it's a cruel thing to say, dark page seven entering the chat. I mean, she's got a book in her. You know what I mean? I mean, that kid had a book in her. And now all of them are going to start. Churn and out promo.

Oh, yeah. The amount that she uses those children for her own branding. And I just, so I think that, I think that that, I think that all the content she posts is her going up to like a half-asleep bedraggled Alec and being like, wake up, it's time for content. And I have to make a comment on the children. But maybe that is a good segue to talking about because it depends on the husband. If you've got a husband who you love and who helps with the kids, maybe it's fine if he makes jokes about having another. But if you're married to whatever Kelsey is, I'm also married to Taylor.

What's his name? Oh, the other one, the other Kelsey. Jason, Kelsey. There you go. that he, Kylie Kelsey, whatever she talks about her husband, all she can say is how little he does. And she does it lovingly. So if it works for them, that's their business. But it sounds like he just can't watch them, can't be present for their births. And so I think that's, you know, a little different. I do truly feel that there are some people that part of their love is like their partner is like a child to them.

And that is not. Like the chimp crazy people. Yeah, exactly. Because a chimp never grows up from a baby to an independent adult. And I do, I do feel that a little bit. You know what I mean? Like she loves having, like I have five children, four girls, and one man. And I'm not, I'm not trying, I know everybody loves Kylie Kelsey.

I'm not actually, again, their marriage, their judgment. But like in terms of putting this out into the world and being like, I have a marriage where I don't expect him to be at the birth of our. child and I cannot leave him alone with the kids. Like that's a, it's an interesting thing to say into a microphone. She had a child. So essentially what we are discussing, she had a child and the next day Jason Kelsey was back at work. He was back footballing. And she openly said it was for the best. A guy I want to just get him out of there. Just get him to work. The day after you have a child, I'm pretty sure usually you want the other, the co-creator around.

I think unless you just can't stand them anymore, but I guess it's more of like, it seems like she comes from the perspective of, like you're not going to help, so just get out of my way, which I understand and I also understand as a partner that like, oh, I'm not going to teach you how to do this. But I will say good for them in the fact that she's not trying to change him.

Exactly. It seems to work for them. Like, right. So she said that, you know, initially they have been kind of trying to have their first kid not in football season, but that it ended up being football season. And she was asked like, you know, would you want him to miss a game so that he could attend the birth? And both of them had discussed it. And she had said no. No. And so. And she also, and to be fair, she also said, because too, if he's not at the game, and then they lose. You know what I mean? Like there's also that idea of like fans coming after, which I, that's sad.

That part of it is sad. But it can't be the only couple to have a baby during, you know, an athlete to have a baby during their season. I'm sure people miss games. But she said, and then she also said like, you know, if you're going to, like, who watches your kids? Well, if you have to do a podcast, is it? And he's home.

Is it him? And she's like, she's like absolutely not. No. And so that's all, again, if it works for them, fine. But then the other thing that happened this week. Well, it works for them because they're really rich, MJ. It works for them because she can get help and she can get other people. And then I'm sure in her brain, well, if I pay for it, I don't have to like, you know,

I don't have to like work this out with you. And also, it seems like he's not even going to try to do a good job. And that would, I think after that, I'd sew my pussy shut. Right. And then there was that other, there was that other article that you posted this week of him being on the podcast. such great heights. I know that's not what it's called, but that's what it is in my head. New heights, whatever. Come down, no.

That he does with Travis. And they were talking about one of their employees who's away on paternity leave. And Jason, again, man who is established to have been willing to miss the birth of his first child. He has four now, but this was the first that he was going to miss. And never does child care ever, like never, ever. And then he's like, why does this employee have? three months of paternity leave. And Travis is like,

I think that's standard. I think he's helping. I think he's helping with his partner. And Jason's like, what, what's the dad doing? Baby's not on his tits. And it's all fun. And they're all having a laugh.

I know, but again, you know I'm the horniest woman alive and nothing dries me up faster. I'm not even having children and nothing drives me up faster than even thinking about that. Like, part of why I love my partner is that I know he would be a fabulous father if we were to have children.

I know that he would be. Part of me loves that asset. Like, I like that he's a wonderful nurturing person. And then you look at someone like Jesus and Kelsey, and it just makes me sad that it's like there's so many people that want desperately to be parents so badly and they can't. And in many, many ways, which I mean, I know that we were just talking about this on page seven.

with Dolly and not being able to have children and like all of that conversation of like that. And I know that he's a meathead. I'm not asking for him to have empathy for infertility struggles or anything like that. I know that that's far. If he can't even watch his own kids, I imagine that's too much to ask. So I get that. It's just, and I know that we're not going to change him. It's just yucky. Can we say you're like your wife popped out. bunch of kids. It's kind of yucky for you to be like, why? We're dirty leave. What's the dad doing? And I guess you're right. You know, Jackie, I hadn't even thought that really what this tells us about Kylie and Jason is not a judgment on their marriage or what kind of people they are, but it really just tells us that they're rich. Because if he says what's the dad doing? The answer is everything except nursing, if the baby's nursing. Hopefully that's that's the goal. And if you're using bottles, then what is he doing? He's washing the bottles. He's washing the bottles. He's doing all the laundry for everything, all the blowouts. He's doing like, hopefully he's doing all the other stuff. And I guess that really is it. It's just that it's the thing where if you've been rich long enough,

you just forget how to be a person and you forget how people live. And you're like, what work is there to do aside from nurse the baby? And I've got to throw the ball, though. I throw the ball. You nurse the baby. I got to throw the ball. But, yeah, you just get to a point where you haven't done. chores in so many years that you forget that that's that you forget that that's a thing I guess that like the keeping up of the house because also when was the last time Jason Kelsey ever had like a whole schedule of many things going on that what he has to take care of is ball and talk into microphone. That's it. In his brain it's ball and microphone now and even the microphone we're asking a lot of him. Okay. To a point.

that I don't even know if he is playing football anymore. I don't know anything about the ball side of these boys, but I do know that, man, they're not going anywhere talking into those microphones because everybody loves that show. And if you love this show, you better hold on to your butts because we're going to hear a word from our sponsors. But, you know, MJ, I am annoyed personally from my own family because of the fact.

that Travis and Taylor got a Samoyed and named her Wendy. Now, Wendy... You have dog name. That's my family's dog's name, okay? That's not your family's dog name. Like, it also upsets me, you know. It annoyed me, even though I'm not even having children when my brother-in-law named his child Henry.

I was like, that's my name, even though it's not. My name's Jackie. So you're able to share those things. And I, it's, I, you know, the Samoyat's very pretty. She's already a model. I know she's in a Tommy Hillfiger. She's in a Tommy Hilfiger ad with Travis. Now, how do you feel about a workman's dog?

Now, I'm not talking about a border collie. You get up there, you go get those sheep. Sheep detectives? Come on, call out. I understand there are dogs that prefer jobs. And I don't know if a Samoyed is the one that's, signing up for a modeling career. I mean, it's a, it's a beautiful dog.

It's a beautiful dog. Beautiful gowns. Beautiful gowns. Beautiful gown. It's a beautiful dog. Beautiful gowns. And the Wendy thing, you know, I was, there's all sorts. I constantly see parents who are like having a meltdown because they think that they have come up with a very original name for their child that nobody else will have. And then the name, and it's, listen, the names that are popular right now are great names. But they, they, they're like, I will, I have a great name for my kid. And then it's like, Olivia and like, it's the number one name or, you know, Liam, like these great, excellent names. And I'm,

I've like consistently seen parents being like, I really thought I was up out ahead of the curve on this one. And, uh, and now I'm fucked. And I think that it's, um, I don't know, is this a, is this a generational thing? Because when we were young, everybody was named Jennifer. And now everyone's like, I really don't want there to be another whatever. Like, there are three other Fridays in the neighborhood. have a good time with it. We call them Big Freddy, Medium Freddie, and Little Freddy, you know. How does Big Freddy feel about that, though? I don't know. Yeah. I mean, she doesn't, that's mine. That's my Freddy. Oh, she's big Freddy. And she's very small. So I think that she's very small.

She's very small. It's funny to her. But, you know, I, uh, I was thinking about this. Oh, you're your child that called me crazy the other day on the phone? She said, you're crazy. You're crazy. Because you had left me a voice note. where that was like a business voice note that then devolved into you doing a like an Igor voice. Yes. Yes. Master MJ. Yeah. And then, yes, she did jump into my voice note back to you to tell you that you were crazy.

But I think that there is something about us. Maybe it's because everybody was named Jennifer and every boy was named Matthew or Adam or whatever. That everyone's like, there can't be another one. You know, I need to be the only Easton or whatever. Right. And there are a lot of memes now that it is funny that like all the grandparent names are now becoming like Jessica and Jennifer and like what the Gen X names were because GenX had their names. We had our names. And I will say, I didn't know many other Jackies.

And that is really truly for the best. Because if you remember from that's my names territory, Jackie's. Jackie's, you know, we love each other or we hate each other. And it really is, Jackie's are a spicy bunch. Yeah, they are. Yeah. It's, you love a mind. You have another Jackie, right?

Don't you, MJ? Do I have another Jackie in my life? No, when I wanted to, I don't have another Jackie in my life, but I, when I was a kid, I wanted to be named Jackie. Remember, I made an alter ego for myself, Jackie Beautiful. Which I can't believe I'm saying it into a microphone again. Should have hoped that everybody forgot about that. But I'm bringing it back.

I had a whole. I started a home newspaper where my byline was Jackie Beautiful. I really, and this was before I knew you. So I really, you got a good name. Thank you. Thank you very much. And I would be writing papes. I'm surprised I'm not writing papes.

Someone get me out there. I'm going to be the new Bill Pullman. And by Bill Pullman, I mean in newsies. Yeah, he wasn't writing. in the papes, though. I think he was just selling them. But I am here to sell you a tale of Harry Jousy. Now, MJ, I got to, of course, I'm still calling it want to marry Harry. I had to write down that it's called Let's Marry Harry. Because want to marry Harry again is with the pseudo-Prince Harry. And Let's Marry Harry is the one about Harry Jousy. I have tried to talk to many people about this show,

and I watch as their eyes just glaze over because they couldn't give a fuck. Nobody cares about Harry Jousy, but I want to throw this out there, MJ. I did watch this entire show. Harry Jousie, again, for those that you also at home are like, who aren't you talking about? It's this guy that's on all the Netflix kissing shows.

He was on like too hot to handle. He was on a bunch of those. other ones of like he's a hot New Zealand guy that he's a very he's a you know a boy about the town I'll call him right he's out there grabbing he's a fuck of a top tier fuck boy like as as tier fuck boy and also remember again yes I did watch him walking into C Garfield and I am proud of him and he's much taller than I expected him to be but I think that's the main reason why people want to sleep with him is his tallness and the accent. And I think that he really does

do a really good job, especially in this show, which he should not have shot, because his father just died. And the entire show was he he was not ready to do a reality show. He was not ready to do it. He was not ready to pick a wife. It is, I'm watching this.

show and it started off, you know, because of Harry Jousey. And then I'm just like, then as someone that lost a parent in the last year or so, I just watched him bring up his father every time he could. He literally, and I'm going to, I am going to spoil it for you guys. He chooses a woman essentially because a bee shows up when they were up high in a building. and bees are the significant creature of him and his father. So he truly felt that his father chose this woman for him. And I'm pretty sure that's why he ends up choosing her.

And everything was about like, oh, my father would love you. Oh, my father would love this about you. Oh, my father. The amount that he brought up his father. And maybe again, I'm just sensitive to this. because of recently going through it. But all I could think was like, nobody told you not to do this show, babe.

I don't think you were in the place to do this yet. And I just felt bad for the guy. I could not agree more that I love the, I just told you last time I liked the, the council of Harry, the group of, I think every, every fuck boy needs a council. Including women that he's slept with. Yes. Also, that people that he has been either in relationship. with or just long time friends with.

Yeah, I think that the Harry, the fuckboy council is great. You know, they know you, they know your weaknesses, they know your type, all of that. But really, the council should have gotten together and been like, Harry keeps bringing up his dead dad. He's not ready. He's going to make a decision based on some weird symbol with his dad, dead daddy. And yeah, that's, I, so has, there's a reunion. Have you seen the reunion?

You know, I haven't seen. I literally watched the last episode last night And part of me was like, do I want to watch the reunion? Part of me wants to just because I don't want to hear. I feel like the reunion, I saw clips from it. It's a lot of like the women screaming about each other. And part of me, that's like, do I just let it go?

You know, you know I hate finishing things anyway. But except, bro, these bastards, they know what they're doing. they just dropped the first half of the fifth season of Secret Lives of Bormon Wives. The one that they were in the middle of shooting that had to stop shooting because everything came out because of Taylor, Frankie Paul. The five episodes that they got to shoot just dropped today. And I am, I'm already annoyed about it, MJ. I'm already annoyed about it. It is like, of course they're capitalizing on this.

Just so fast. Can you imagine them? They're like, churn, churn, churn it out. We've got to get it out. And they have... Talk about somebody should have stopped it. I mean, like, obviously, I, I'm excited because I fucking love that show, but obviously somebody, like, and somebody should... Taylor just need so much help, and I just want, I just want her to get help and...

I don't think she's going to. Oh, you, I'm sorry, when you say help, do you mean do more reality television? Because that's, that's all I'm hearing. I think she's just going to keep doing reality television because, she's not arrested. And so in the, like, she's, and they keep threatening to release the bachelor season that she did. But you know that this is all because they're scrounging because they lost a whole scene. Like, it's all just like, but it could, but it might.

And it's like, I don't know. I don't know if that's going to happen. Yeah. And I mean, this extremely successful reality show that everybody loves, are they really going to, they don't want to lose that just because one of them is profoundly unwelcome. well, you know, they're going to milk it. Yeah, bro. And also, Taylor has not only, not only very unwell, but she's also an incredibly charismatic,

important part of that dynamic and of that group. And so I'm sure that the idea of losing her from this squad is like, no, we'd rather exploit her till everything falls apart even more. And she's on Instagram. There should be like, everyone needs a council. The council that tells you when to put your phone down. And she just needs someone to be like, if you're like in current ongoing court battle over custody, stop the TikTok away.

Posting. Stop doing TikTok. Stop posting. Stop posting. You probably stop. I, although if there's one thing that I've learned continuing on watching Monsters of God, and I will say Natalie is correct, it's just very sad. It's just getting sadder and sadder. But one thing I will learn is that Mario Taborri, Trabari, Trabari. whoever's, like this guy that you learn about in the second or third episode that is truly evil.

Like he really, he was running, like he was trafficking all these guns, all these drugs, and he was like doing a bunch of really, really bad stuff. And in the show, you're interviewing him and they had enough to put him away. I think that he got 100 years in prison for what he did. And he only served 12 of them. And now he's out. And he's like, you know, sometimes the information you have is better than the information they got on you is essentially what he's saying. But can you imagine what he gave to only serve 12 years of a hundred years sentence?

I know. That's crazy to me that justice works like that. You know what I mean? I mean, quote, unquote, ofs. I'm the person at the person at the person. party trying to tell everybody to watch Monsters of God. And I'm like, it's like good fellows, but reptiles. And everyone's like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, you'd have no idea the dark underbelly of the reptile trade in Florida. And people are looking at me like I got three,

like I'm a Komodo Dragon. Thank you. Whoa. Comodo Dragons rides up. And it's, you know, as so many great documentaries we watch are set in Florida. And so many great documentaries, on HBO are about Florida. And Monsters of God really, in a way, is about Florida. It's about reptiles, but really it's about a Florida crime syndicate.

And also, the reason why there's so many wild reptiles, non-native wild reptiles in Florida, because of all these reptile gangsters. Speaking of incredible. You're right. And docs in Florida, specifically, they do a reference, Mario Trebore is a cocaine cowboy. He was

a cocaine cowboy. And You should check out cocaine cowboys if you want another Florida dock that will also make your head spin. Yeah, Monstress of God is... It's so good and it is devastating. Oh, yeah, it is. Now, I know that MJ had said before we started, I want to throw out there, there's a couple of other movies that I have seen over our break that I do really want to talk about. But I just want to let everyone know very soon, MJ and I are going to start a spoiler

filled discussion about the movie obsession. So I'm just letting you guys know now that it's coming up in a little bit. Now, I want to bring up, I saw some great movies over the break, but two specifically stuck out. One of them was Buddy, which I think is very, very fun

and very funny because a lot of people keep bringing their children to it thinking that it is a child's movie, but it is not a child's movie. It is by, I believe, It is by the people that did too many cooks. And it is, right, Adam? And it is, Keegan Michael Key does the voice for Buddy the Unicorn.

And it is all about being trapped inside of this world where the children are trapped in the world of Buddy the unicorn. And Buddy is evil. It's a horror movie. It's a horror movie. And man, if you don't mind, lopping off some head. heads of kids. You should check out, buddy. It is, it's funny. It's fun. It is, it is, it is definitely a fun horror romp. But again, it is not for your children. I wanted to shout that out. But also, bro, you have got to try to see coyote versus Acme. Yes, yes. I keep seeing people talk about how it's like even better than anybody expected. And it's like such an indictment of. of like the industry that it almost didn't get made. Yeah, tell me about it.

Holden's been talking about this for years. Yes, it is because it's been in production hell for years because it got fully made. And then I believe it got shelved because I think essentially money, money, money, money. Something, something. They would make more money if it didn't come out. Something, something. All of this is evil, right? And Will Forte would not let it stay.

of the people that made it, they would not let it stand. This is the whole point of, like, of the movie. And so, also, it is, so they did an adult version of a young kids show in the perfect way. You know how sometimes I specifically usually bring up Renan Stimpy because I believe it was Spike TV that remade Renan Stimpy. And they made it like, like, X-rated. They made it that like, like, stimpies, like, catching from Wren and, like, you know, and, like, it's just like, it was all, it went so hard in the paint that it was like, all right, I think that that's, it's like, it didn't need that. Yeah. How they elevated the Looney Tunes into an adult world, which, let's be real, Looney Tunes was always an adult world.

Totally. It was very, you know, I cried three times watching. Coyote versus Acme, MJ. It's good. And John Sina is great in it as like the bad. I mean, I know that there's a whole scene that went viral because he was, he's like threatening Tweety Bird in, in a scene. But it's great. And watching them play, like, it's got to be so hard to play against nothing, but Will Forte and John Sina, honestly, all of them did an amazing job. And I do wonder, so James Gunn, it was one of the. producers now on it. So I haven't looked too far into like how all of that changed. So I wonder if like he

came in to help support or something like that. I'm not sure how he was involved. But coyote versus Acme is so good. And we have to support it. We have to support it. We have to show them how wrong they are. So if it is, I'm sure it's not still in the theater is out by you. But whenever you can watch it, we have to support things like this. Because this is the way you know, you. You can do a spirit, you know, it's like a sequel of a continuation of an exploration. This is the way to do it. Do you know, was it like a limited release? Like, was it something that didn't end up getting widely distributed?

Not sure. Not sure. Yeah, I just, I saw, I've seen so many people talking about it. Also, shout out to all the people sending me. There's like a, you know, real going around of the original person to act with a cartoon was Gene Kelly with Jerry the Mouse, which is, of course, something that I referenced in our live show, released the but. Paula Abdul in one step forward, two steps back when we all know that she had sex with that cat thing. I'm good for her.

Yeah, I really, I really want to see it. So, okay, so can we talk obsession a little bit? Now we can talk obsession because MJ watched a scary movie. and I'm glad that this is the scary movie that you watched because it is really good, right? Oh my God, it's so good. So I knew a little bit about it, mostly from you. But obviously I saw that everybody's talking about it

and I knew that you had said, you know, just if Buffy has taught us anything, it is that man is the monster. And so I go into obsession thinking, okay, this is going to be about a bad man who's being bad and act and like is a stalker or like is the man is the... Oh, so you know nothing.

nothing. Nothing, nothing. Whoa. Okay, okay. All right. Hit me. Hit me. All right. So great, the great thing about being so out of touch. So, yeah, so then here I come in and I find out. You didn't even know like one wish willow. Like you knew genuinely nothing. That's crazy. Except that it was about a bad man. Bad man. But I'm like Jackie doesn't- Or is he bad, MJ? Or is he? So, but I'm like, Jackie doesn't watch like thrillers about like realistic bad men. She watches horror. So there's going to be, what's going to make this a horror? And then I come to find out that the horror is that the man has actually made the woman,

the woman is technically the one who's acting bad, but it's because of what the man has done to her. And I, I, I loved it so much. I was thinking the whole time about what you had said about that somebody that you know thinks that Bear is the victim. I will say this again. It's, he has to trolling me. I'm assuming he's trolling me because now that you've seen this movie, is there any question of whether or not Bear is a bad guy? Zero question. The only thing I would say is that the movie does a good job. I think that the movie wouldn't be interesting if it was just like completely unambiguous. Like, like, I think the movie makes you want to feel something for him too, right? Because

he didn't want this to happen. It's getting all fucked up. But obviously he had a million chances to do the right thing that he didn't take. But I think that what makes it a good movie is that is, I mean, yeah, anybody who says Bears the Victim, you know, that we got to get him like a Bell Hook's text or something. But like I think that the ambiguity of it is good. Yeah. Curry Barker really rode the line of rather, it would have been easy for him to be like, oh, men are evil.

I liked that there were, that it was this. It is just, you know, it's funny because we were talking about this before we started recording and Adam and I were discussing like the second, someone snaps when you're in the middle of hooking up with them and they go, no, no, no, no, no, no. And they flip out like that. And you, it's over. Continue no matter. Like, if you continue that, there's something wrong. I'm sorry, there's something.

that stops. Then it stops. Then it's like, no. A hundred percent. That was an issue. If you, between that and also hearing her scream over the phone, knowing that she's trapped in there. And he's like, you could end this now. And he doesn't.

And he doesn't. That's the thing. He has so many chances that he could have tried to make it right that he doesn't take, which is why it's unambiguous that he is the bad guy. Right. and he knows that she does not want to be with him. And even, and like, I've seen, so I've watched, now, watch it twice, I've seen a bunch of the, like,

behind the scenes and the little things of, like, like, even notice, and I watch, I noticed so many things in the second watcharound of, like, right after hit, like, first, say, in the very beginning, his cat dies and he's crying about it. But if you listen to what he's saying as he's crying, he's not crying about the cat. He's literally crying,

why won't she love me? So he was never upset about the cat. I mean, it really wasn't about that. It was always about her. And then someone pointed out to me that in the end, he goes, because he could just say, I don't want her to be like,

she's not obsessed with me anymore. But you notice he gets to one-wish willows. and a lot of people think that he was going to break that curse and then start another one that he worded better. Again, that is another reason that most likely he is the worst of all of them. A hundred percent. Yeah, absolutely. I think that what, but again, I think in terms of the way that it, that it plays, that it, I think that it invites you to, think, would I do this? You know what I mean? Like, because we all know what it's like to pine for

somebody. And so in the beginning, when you're just seeing like, oh, he's got this big crush, it's like, I think, I'm not at all saying that he's a sympathetic character, but I think that what is, what is so interesting to me about it is, again, it's not just like bad man, bad, mad. It's like, what would, I mean, could you imagine yourself if you could make one wish and would it be that my crush likes me, you know, like it's not, it's not inherently evil to. It's like, it's not, it's not an inherently evil to wish that your crush likes you. Right. But it's then, but then obviously each, each thing that happens. And once it, like you said, the way that it deals with consent and the way that it obviously illustrates that this is not consensual, which is why it's absolutely unambiguous that he is evil. But I thought

that, you know, I think... Even when he sees the pictures in his lunchbox and she wrote not me on the pictures, trying desperately to tell him that it's not her. That all of, that's not her. And he knows it. I know, but I wonder, I wonder if you took a survey of the audience. Like, when we talked about it, definitely the YouTube comments were like, anybody who thinks that there is the victim, like, you got to run. And I wonder, of the people who saw it, I do wonder how many people sympathized with him

or, like, or to the point, you know what I mean? because it, to me, and I think to anybody who, you know, who was able to think about the consent piece, it is very clear that he is unambiguously evil. But I do wonder about people who saw it and were like, that sucks for him. He was just trying to get this wish happen, you know. And again, run away from. And if they are, if they are a man, run away from them. I would say, be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Never mind. I think we really should be. Like, if you like horror and you're looking for another person that also likes horror, I would include that in my dating profiles of like if you think Bear is not, is if you think Bear is the victim of obsession, don't swipe right. Like, you know, just like that, I think that's a really good litmus test of like, just don't even talk to me. How about that?

And it also doesn't mean that it's not well done, which is what I, I think the fact that you, that people could see it and have different. feelings about the extent to which bear is a victim does not mean that the politics of it aren't good or whatever. It just means that it does a really good job of being like, of, setting up this situation that, again, initially seems like maybe this is kind of sympathetic. He's not just like a pure, horrible, awful in-cell. If it was morally un-am- if there was no moral ambiguity at all, it wouldn't have been as interesting. But then it is still, the moral lesson of it is still very, very clear. So I just, I, I, I, I love so many things about it. It was so

interesting. But that question of, of, is bare a victim is, is, is a, it's a interesting one. And I think the answer is clear, but. I think the answer is clear. Yeah. But I guess the fact that it's a question at all is part of what makes the movie so good. But also, you know what makes the movie so good. Indy Navarette, can we please give it up? What an act? I mean, now her whole career is blowing up now, and I'm happy for her because that, I mean, she's, it wouldn't have been as good. Like, Bear, the guy that plays Bear is very good. Also, I mean, very good at making you be like, but Indian Everett is so good. And you know us horror lovers. We love a scream queen. And also, apparently, the ending that is shown, where she, like, it's ambiguous and all you assume is that like she's either gonna go to jail

like no matter what her life is over. But originally it was written that she takes her own life at the end once she realizes what happened and she takes her own life. But it was Indy Nevereat that was talking with Curry Barker. There's like, I think it's more interesting

if we leave it open of like how destroyed her life could be of what, and so they only shot that ending once and it hit and landed so hard that they were like, well, that's the ending. That's, I mean, that's, we got to keep it like this. That's, that's right.

Yeah, totally. Because, of course, because her life is over. I mean, it's, yeah. And it leaves you with the question, like, how do you go on after this? Because she remembers doing all those, like, she's watching all of this happen. She's like watching her body do these things. How do you come back from that? How do you go on after this?

But leaving that to be the question. How do you prove that you didn't do it? Right. And do you go on after this? But yeah, if that other ending had happened, it would have answered the question, do you go on after this? And leaving it, how do you go on?

Do you go on? What happens after this is like such, it was, the ending was, oh my God, it was so weird. Oh, my God, when she's, like, wearing her clothes and she's, and like, she even, like, drew on the tattoos of the other girl because he's like, because in her, like, oh, because if he likes her, then I'll just get to be her. although I will throw it out there

it is kind of funny so Halloween horror nights of course they have a Nicki that is going around they have multiple nickys going around in Halloween horror nights except the problem is that a lot of people are complaining because really all it is

is a bunch of attractive women covered in blood that are like screaming at other women because they're there with their partner or friend or and so it's just actually very like can we stop? Can we stop doing this? And also they even said that they couldn't have a bear because, number one, you would just look like some creep that's in Halloween horror nights. And also they were worried that because of the movie, he would just get the shit baiting out of him. And I think that's also kind of funny that they're like, oh, no, we can't let that guy around. He's go, he's going to get the shit's beat out of him.

Oh, that is so funny. Yeah. You know you have a good horror movie when you're like, you actually, actually cannot recreate this in any semblance of like of a fun real life thing at all at all like really at all but um you know I know that we need to get out of here pretty soon but I did want to just bring up real fast because I have to say congratulations MJ MJ got tickets to the Clay Aiken VIP listening party at Planet Hollywood Times Square so were you up against a lot of people to get this ticket was this Dude, bruh, I got the last ticket. I got the last ticket. Wait, MJ, are you going to this by yourself?

MJ? You bet I am. I was going to call my husband and there's no time. I didn't have time to call him. There was only one ticket left. It said there's one ticket left. There's one ticket left. And MJ's like, that's for me.

I am going to the planet Hollywood Times Square, which you know what? Even if Clay Aiken wasn't there, that sounds like a great night. me. Oh, God. Oh, MJ. Going by myself to the Planet Hollywood Times Square where I will be attending an intimate, I think it's going to be like 100 people listening party with Clay Aiken there to listen to his new album. And I'm worried that Clay Aiken is going to also be like, also roam around my house, start writing your name on the bottom of things so I can leave it

to you in my will. I feel like he's just looking for new friends. Like he's looking for like a family or something. That's why he's doing this. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what his personal life is like. And I don't know what his professional life is like. All I know is, is the, you're going to this. All I know is that is that I'm going to up my, my fun shirt game because Clay Aiken really, you know, it took him a long time to embrace his identity. But he's finally in a place where he's wearing ascots every day. And he's wearing the loudest prints you've ever seen. And he has, I think, has bleached not only his hair, but also his eyebrows. So I'm. I'm wondering how far do I go? It's a look. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you bleach your eyebrows to join Clay Aiken? I've always felt self-conscious about my eyebrows because I always thought they were too dark, but now dark eyebrows are in.

Yeah. And so maybe I would bleach them to go back. Again, I'm going back to my... If your eyebrows were invisible. I bet I'd also break into your eyebrows home and watch them while they slept as well. I can't believe you're going to be in this small of a row. room with Clay Aiken. I'm not, like, I'm not worried you're going to get grabbed, obviously. I just, I'm worried that Clay is going to see himself in you and that I'm worried that he's going to,

like, take you away from me. I mean, at 23 years after the year I spent being obsessed with Clay Aiken, I get to be in a room with him and we have merged into looking a lot of like, my husband is looking at me like, am I about to lose you to Clay Aiken, too? I think we are both, and then Gideon and I are going to have to, we're going to have to connect, and then it's going to be a whole other, oh, man, oh, now that's a hallmark movie. It's, I'm so, I'm not going to become the parent of your children, MJ, all right? But if you do, if you do, if you leave your family for Clay Aiken, I will. Okay, okay. All right. I'll, uh, I'll, I'll, uh, I'll write it up. Um, I, I'm just, I'm just so excited to report back, you guys. It's going to be, I'm going to be just like hanging out in a small, room with a person I had a crush on 23 years ago, listening to his new original album, anything could happen. What are you, yeah, what are you going to wear?

It can't just be a t-shirt. No. No, it's, no, I'm going to dress like him. I'm afraid he's going to be afraid of me. I'm going to dress exactly like him. Because, again, my style. I'm not indivisible. Just like, look at me, Clay.

Look at me. You think you're the creepy one with Invisible? I'm the creepy one. I, my style is not unlike his. So it won't be hard. I already have a lot of fun button-ups. I don't have enough ascots, but I've been meaning to up my ascot game anyway. So I, I, what will it be like for him to enter his listening party and see someone who looks exactly like him?

I don't know. Who will, who else will be there? I don't know. Hopefully, you know, your confidence will, will run blocks around him because something tells me, Clay Aiken needs a little bit more confidence. or maybe the confidence speaks through the ascots and that's on me. I don't know. I think he's finding himself. It's in like, uh, it's soon.

It's soon. I think it's like in two weeks. So you got to work on finding a crushed velvet smoking jacket with an ascot. I do think that you would look really good in a crushed velvet smoking jacket with an Ascot just saying, I think that we can make this happen before Clay. Oh my God, you are. This is going to be B.C. This is BCMJ.

And what are we going to find with ACMJ? Are they going to be a little bit colder? I hope so. Well, we're going to find out whenever you go to see this by yourself and you leave your whole family and I support you. I understand you went out for an ascot and you never came home. And that's what I'm going to tell the kids. And don't worry, I'll be a good parent to them, MJ.

But I hope that you're not invisible to Clay. And I hope that we're not invisible to you guys, or at least not audibly invisible. That means mute. But thank you guys so much for coming and hanging out with us during second helpings this week. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. And don't forget, next week it begins.

You won't have to go anywhere else. You're just going to start receiving a third episode of page seven every week and that episode although I don't even know how I'm going to do a page seven episode without you mj I'm going to be doing them with cara so also do you feel like i'm stepping out with you almost like you are doing with clay I don't know I just show up next week I'm covered in ascots and I'm like love me mj love me please to love me I'll never leave you mj because I'll never leave you, MJ, but I would leave my family if I had one.

Thank you, MJ, for hanging out with us, obviously, as always. And thank you for bringing the claspiration for us all that we didn't even know we needed. My Instagram, if you'd like to follow it, is at Jack That Worm. But also definitely give at page 7 LPN a follow on Instagram because that's where you're going to be getting all the goodies. Oh, and they are going to be goodies, everybody. because, oh, you know I'm sweet to the taste.

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you can see the clips and see what our faces look like. And we love you guys. And see my dolly shirt. I didn't even show off my dolly shirt. I didn't show off my new tattoo. Everyone follow permanent daydreams. We're killing it here, guys. Thank you so much for hanging out with us.

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