Page 7 - Talkin' New Years

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

It's the New Year and Holden, MJ, and Jackie are channeling the spirits of New Years past this week as they talk about some of their favorite holiday memories! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Saw mommy kissing Santa Claus. Oh my God, is that Mariah Carey? Underneath the mistletoe last night. And if you are what you are already in the year 2024, your mistletoe is probably put away. But I don't know about you guys. I haven't finished dealing with what the holidays do to me every year. Welcome to page seven.

Rewind. It's the holiday edition. Yeah, we're talking about Hanukas. Yeah, we're talking about Christmases. We're talking about motherfucking New Year's. Because New Year's is the sneaky one that you think like, I'm not even thinking about it. Oh, it doesn't even bother me. But you know what?

I dare say it bothers me more than the other holidays combined. Oh, yeah. Because it's the one where you don't plan anything. And then it comes and you're like, I'm not doing anything. My life is meaningless. Or the opposite where you plan too much and you're like, I got to stay out until when? Yeah. I gotta do what?

Yeah. Yeah. New Year's is such a tricky one, you know? But, but like, it was bad kids night for the longest time, right? Oh, it was my favorite night when I was in my 20. And a two-night party, a two-party night was like a treat back then, you know. Oh, yeah. Two stops.

Let's even rewind back to where, like, because I feel like a lot of Christmas memories are going to be based on, you know, more childhood stuff. but New Year's memories kind of happen a little bit more as you get older, but kind of like that space in between. My strongest memory from New Year's personally is maybe junior year of high school, probably. I think junior year of high school, maybe sophomore. Nah, junior year had to be because that was when I was like really starting to get aggressive with seeing what drinking's all about.

And I, my thing, me and my buddy's thing was Schmernoff 100. We were like, oh, you've got a favorite. figured out. You just take shots of this awful vodka, you know, you can kind of take, it's like, it's not even like drinking how people enjoy drinking, you know? It's like, we would do it like taking pills. We would go into like my buddy's room, take three shots of Schmertoff 100 and then like go watch Dragon Ball Z after school. Normal high school kid stuff, you know. Now think about being a parent, Holden, then think about, you know, Winnie. I just saw a picture of Gideon at his bar Mitzvah, you know, which is he was 13. He looked like the tiniest little boy. He was so young. And I was like,

I saw it. We were with his mom and his sister. And I was like, oh my God, look at what a tiny little kid you were at your bar mitzvah. And they were like, don't be fooled. He was already drunk. And I was like, he was like already drinking. You know, a lot of people are already drinking by the time they're 13. And it's just wild to think about. And after coming home from school when you're thinking like graham crackers and saved by the bell. But then you see. Somewhere along the line, you switch. Oh, we were smoking black and mild and taking shots of Shepard, watch a drag a ball. And this one New Year's, we got an eighth of, I got like a flask, a big flask of shurned off 100.

And it was like finished before, like way before the ball dry. I drank it way too quickly. I spent the entire night hugging a toilet, like probably, probably might have even should have maybe gone to hospital a night. Like it was so bad. Just hugged, just Ralph. I remember like hearing the countdown in between pews. That's sad. That's just horrible.

You're in the countdown in the other room as a sad New Year's. That was definitely the most like defining New Year. I don't think I have a memory of a New Year's until like I get to New York City, right? Like that was pretty much the big one of when I was younger. I always have not like when I was younger, I really didn't like New Year's because my parents and I don't know. any other parents that force their children to do this. But at midnight, we were forced to go outside with pots and pans and wooden spoons and bang the pots and pans.

And you'd think like, oh, that's awesome. What's going on right now? Oh, how great that is. But it wasn't great for us. It was so embarrassing because no one else did it, especially when we moved to Florida, when especially nobody did it. But nobody did it in fucking Queens. I lived in Queens for years.

No. Yeah, but at least all people are always out and about so it doesn't matter. Yeah. It's a little right. It doesn't matter. You could scream that at the same time. I feel like if you did that in New York City. Florida, someone's going to, well, in Florida someone's going to freaking shoot you.

Yes. And it was always, I like, I hated doing it. But now that I'm an adult, I was like, we should start doing that again. I kind of get why they want it. Like, because you think now, as both of you are parents, wouldn't that be fun to be like, we get to in the middle of the night, go outside and make a bunch of noise. So I'm sure at some point I liked it,

but when you are, talk about those ages, 13, and you're just like, fine, hit the pots and pan. Would you stay up, like when you were, or would they wake you up, you know what I mean? No, we would stay up until a minute. We're always allowed to stay up for. Now my mom is so, like, blown away by the fact that she's like, Netflix has the countdown.

So you do it for the kids. So they think it's midnight. And they go to sleep at a normal hour. Yeah. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever heard of. Like, it really is. It's a very, very smart of Netflix. Do you do that with the girls, MJ?

I think we did that last year. I think we did the countdown. But like last year, even they didn't, they were kind of too young to even like understand what the, like, why are we counting down? I think, you know, like many, like introducing kids to any holiday tradition, they're like, okay, I guess we're lighting candles and singing. It's so weird and fun. Like, getting, taking Winnie trigger-treating for the first time this year was so hilarious.

Yeah, exactly. It's a great example. It's like, you have no idea what the fuck. Like, we were just like walking up to random houses. There's like creepy skeletons in Fred the, you know what I mean? She's just like, she's dressed like a shark. Yeah, you only do it for one day. Yeah.

Next day, it's like we're back to normal. We're not, not going on people's doors. What does she think? So we, I don't know. I think, well, the funny thing, I actually saw a funny tweet about this. recently. I think it was like a Reddit post. Someone wrote like it's crazy how like much toddlers just roll with shit. Like it's like my I just I moved from it to a different state with my toddler like last month and they asked me the other day, are we still on the planet Earth?

It's like because it really is like that. They have no idea. Yeah. You're just kind of rolling with shit. And it's like I was even thinking about it was like she just didn't know what she was doing on Saturday. And all of a sudden she was at the mall. And then we went to Trader Joe's and now she's, you know, now we're at the playground. Like, she doesn't know what the fuck she's, any day she wakes up and has no idea what the fuck she's doing. Yeah. And that's crazy to me, you know, like, I have my whole week mapped out to a T. So it's just, it's crazy.

It's crazy. We went out to watch, to go look at Christmas lights in this garden last night. And I was thinking about this while looking at little kids. I may have taken a couple of psychedelics, but it was so cool to watch these. Like, little kids jumping, because they have all of these lights set up that you can jump on and it changes the trees colors. Oh, that's cool. Like, they're underneath. And we were doing it having a blast.

But then I'm looking at these kids being like, what do they think is happening? Right. Like, what do they think is that? Like, you're in the dark. Like, when are you ever at a garden where all the lights are off except for these big, insane lights that you get to control? I feel like that would blow my mind. Like it was blow in my mind, but I think it might have been in the second old. But I was feeling great.

Yeah, no, it's true. It's like, and there's, we have all these like this meaning that we infuse onto things. It's like new year, new us or whatever the fuck. And they're just like, what has changed? Like, yes. You know, so it's all very, very abstract to them. But I mean, I'm definitely going to do the countdown this year because I love, it is fun to like let them stay up late. and whatever, but also we're still at the, until, I think until they're like eight or nine,

it's like, staying up late is like not actually fun for anyone because they're just like emotionally collapsing. Yeah. Yeah. And also then your whole next day is screwed. And like, is that why you want your New Year's Day? Like I remember in the past, like, how I've had to work most New Year's Eve and New Year's days. So I'm used to feeling like shit on the first day of the year. It always used to blow my mind that people would be like, this is. the day that you're like, let's start over, let's work on me. I'm like, this is the day that I feel the worst when I'm just like, start the new year hungover. Yes, but like that would be such a different sad way to start the new year. Wherever you're not hungover, you're just tired. And the kids are

tired and everybody's tired and everybody's pissy. Well, someday I'll be able to introduce them to my absolutely solo New Year's Day tradition, which I just invented myself. Ooh, what is it? And two, he doesn't love it, but he comes along with me, which is watching Sex in the City the Movie. That's right. Every New Year's Day. Why? Because there's like a long, it spans the course of a whole, I think, year.

Okay. But there is like a long sequence in it where Carrie is trying to get to Miranda because Miranda's really sad because it's like her first New Year's without Steve and her son because they're divorcing. Right, right, right. And Carrie is home because she's having a sad New Year's because. Big walked out on their wedding day. And so she, they're on the phone.

Whoa, 15 year spoiler, MJ. Spoiler alert. And so they're on the, and then they had a fight. Miranda and Carrie had a fight. I don't remember what their fight was about. I think it was because Miranda knew that Steve was having a real hard time. Anyway, they're on the phone. They're fighting.

And then Carrie's like, I got to get to her. And she gets from her apartment, which I think is in the Upper East Side, down to Miranda's apartment, which is in Chinatown. But it's all set to this, like, very beautiful old Lanzon. sequence. And for whatever reason, my brain was just like, sex in the city, one, is a New Year's movie. And so I watch it every New Year's Day.

It's a great hangover movie because it's the stupidest movie that you can enjoy watching. Hell yeah. I encourage everybody to start this tradition. Start this tradition. I think this is, I think that my husband would hate it even more than you would hate it, but I love this tradition.

I'm sorry, I got to do Forrest Gump, because I love that, trying to kill yourself on New Year's Eve, uh, scene. Uh, it's wonderful. So do you watch that on the first? Yeah. Maybe you should start watching it on the first just to get a taste. Just to be like, I am Lieutenant Dan.

There are, I pulled up New Year's Eve movies here. Yeah, what do we consider a New Year's Eve movie or a New Year's Day movie, which are two different. Let me try. Ooh, when Harry met Sally, for sure. When Harry met Sally, for sure. Oh my God, that scene was my everything. In fact, I had that little monologue at the end that Billy Crystal does. when he talks about like all the things that he hates and loves about her.

Oh my God. Because I came here tonight to spend the rest of my life with you or whatever he says at the end. And it's just so great. It's just so beautiful. And I used to have it as an away message. Okay. Which is sad, again, for a young person to have that as their away message.

No, this is good though, because I, since becoming parents, we have not gone out on on New Year's Eve. And honestly, I've reached that point in my life where I'm fine with it. I'm like, it is nice to have like a party night at home after the kids are in the Sex and the City is on this list. I'm sorry, a New Year's best New Year's movies. It's not just me. Hell yeah.

It's not just you. I switched to, I flipped a switch at some point near the end of my time in New York City where kind of every big, like every holiday was the last day I would want to go out, you know? It was just such a pain in the ass. Getting a cab was paying the ass. Like dealing with whatever bar or whatever. Well, cabs on New Year's Eve in New York City. Yeah, horrible.

Oh, my God. You can't go somewhere unless you are ready to walk home. Halloween, Thanksgiving was, is always a nightmare. And, yeah, New Year's Eve, you know, and then don't get to be started on, as you already talked about, Santa Con. And St. Patty's Day. You know, just, oh, realizing it's St. Patty's Day, one of the, like, on your way to work, exhausted, bleary-eyed, worst feeling ever. If you didn't realize it was coming and you just get out of the trade, you just see like green bullshit everywhere.

And you're like, no. I remember I had to like walk across town. But now it's your wedding anniversary. Now it's my wedding anniversary. And now I don't live in New York. Thank Christ. Because, yeah, I remember at one point, I forgot. I had to like walk through the parade to run like an errand at my job.

Oh, my God. It was such a horrible day. I had to like, oh, it was awful. But, yeah, pretty much I remember. I think it was like, it was a, weirdly enough, we had a party at Henry's apartment in Brooklyn back when Henry had a place that was not conducive. That was a sad year for you. Yeah, that was a sad new year. Was that one for me too? Because I had like a, yeah, that's right. I had like a fucking stomach bug or something. And remember that girl fell down the stairs. Oh, shit. Remember one of this, actually, the girl fell down

the stairs? Like this, this woman that one of us was dating. They did not date for too long. long. I remember she got too drunk and Henry lived on the second floor and she went to go leave and she fell down the entire stairs. And I remember we had to sit with her as she was like crying and like bleeding at the bottom of the stairs but most of the party didn't know it was happening upstairs. We just happened to see her fall. And then she just like was so upset and she just was screaming. And then like the neighbors came out and started screaming at her for screaming just because she had fallen down the stairs. So we'd like get her inside. But then she wouldn't leave. And I was trapped at Henry's until like five in the morning. I feel like that's the night. We've all had like, you know, party nights where some weird thing happens, like someone falls down the stairs or something. Like, I feel like any night, party night where like a slight minor medical emergency happens.

And it's always on New Year's or another like very significant day. And then you're just entire, you're like, well, I guess this is how we start 2017. Yeah, right? I mean, I've got the video that I post every year of. us singing cats I love that drunkenly on the street and like we just kept being like

2020 the year of perfect vision baby year of perfect vision we kept screaming that all night and you know it was the beginning of the end I know any we don't talk about any 2020 New Year's feelings because none of us knew what was coming yeah 2019 into 2020 wild

I do just remember Travis who's no longer with the network but he was like kind of their like right hand man for last five I guess left. I remember him just being like, it's going to be a huge year for us, a big year. Like, I don't know why I have that memory of that because like their book was about to come out and like all these things. There was going to be this big book tour and all this crazy stuff. And I were just being like, this is going to be him just being like, this is going to be a huge year for us. Like, I don't know why.

It just sticks my head because, yeah, just everything fucking fell apart after that. I mean, what did we do? What was New Year's 2020 to 2021? What did I even do? For me, I remember, because I also thought that 2020 was going to be a great year for me because I was like, I had a one-year-old and an infant at the time, but I was like, we're about to age out of like the newborn infant stage. We're going to have a six-month-old soon. I'm going to get my life back on track. Like, I was, I remember, I had the high hopes New Year's 2020, which, spoiler alert since then have decided to never have high hopes about anything again. Never, never again. Never hope. Never hope. Put it all in your pocket. Yeah, never hope. But I did have

in 2019, I had a very good New Year's because it was the day after Christmas, 2018, was when I woke up and and spontaneously decided I was pregnant. I just woke up and knew and I took a pregnancy test. and this was with Zelda the second one and I it was indeed positive and I what was that intuition you just knew I just knew I was thirsty and I was thirsty in a way that had and Gideon was like you were thirsty because you had like drank a little bit the night before and you had not been drinking because you were nursing but I just woke up and I was thirsty in a way that reminded me of when I was pregnant and I without even telling you just said thirsty and both Holden and I started drinking our water where I was like yeah you're right I am thirsty like a compulsive thirst and so I took the Gideon was a good idea and so I took the Gideon was I out with the baby in the living room. I didn't even tell him. I just woke up and I was like, I feel pregnant and I took a pregnancy test and it was positive. And I, you know, I had had, I had infertility when I was trying to get pregnant with Freddie. I had never, ever seen a positive pregnancy test, like on a piece stick. Because when I found out I was pregnant with her, I was too nervous to take a pregnancy test. I just got a blood test. So I had never seen a positive.

Whoa. It was like a COVID test. It was like a bright line. And I was like, whoa, okay. Whoa, I'm really pregnant. And I came out and told him, and... Well, you must have been... That was in December, you must have, like, just gotten pregnant. Yes, it was like...

Because Zelda was born in August. Yeah, it was... No, that was... Of course, I was like, oh, maybe I, like, maybe I've been pregnant for a few weeks and I didn't know and I could, like,

knock a couple of weeks off the 40-week slog. But no, I knew, like, it was like the fucking day that I must have, like, been pregnant. It was like the first day. I just felt it.

So weird. But I, like, excitedly wrote a note to my fertility doctor. My fertility doctor was like, this might be bad because it might be a tubal pregnancy. It might be something like because the reason I had had infertility was because of blocked tube.

So he was like, don't do it. Don't do anything. Don't get excited. Like come to me. We got to do blood tests. Yada, yada, yada. And so I was like, okay, I don't know what the fuck is happening.

And so that was the time between Christmas and New Year's 2018. And then on New Year's Eve, 2018, my doctor called me at like 9 o'clock at night. It was like New Year's party time, and we were just home. We had the baby, and he, like, called, and he was like, the blood test looked great. You're definitely pregnant. Oh, I love that. Yeah. That was the best New Year's for me.

That's a beautiful New Year's story. Yeah. So the only time anything good happened on New Year's. I was about to say, I'm like, immediately like, scanning, do I have anything positive to say about a New Year's? What positive thing do I have to say about New Year's and I don't happen? I feel like I definitely had. Let me think. All right.

There was definitely... I think it's just because it's filled with so much hope and then like it always is never as good as you expect it to be. Exactly, exactly. There's too much pressure. Honestly, I feel like for me being so lonely

and without any kind of woman or any comfort, you know, any sort of just lust in my life. I mean, there was an emptiness there. You know what I mean? So maybe I'm frozen.

Because the ladies, you know, maybe it's their fault, Jackie. So what do we think about that for a second? Oh, good. Oh, yeah. Holden. That's what we want. Flame the women. But what was the first?

It is sad when you don't have anyone to kiss. I choose to blame the women. Yeah, yeah, good. You know, you're the first man that's ever done. But as soon as I'm so, thank you for your refreshing take. As soon as I got some of that fucking arm candy, you know what I'm saying? As soon as I got a little on that.

I'm trying to remember who it was. Seriously. But I just, even though I don't even have the distinctive memory, I just remember being so fucking thrilled. I finally had someone to kiss on New Year's Eve. Yeah. Because that was the whole thing for me. Yeah. It was just that there was to have someone to kiss on New Year's.

I do like the tradition of, like, at least what we used to do in our 20s is that we used to kiss everybody. Yeah. So it's like you kiss whoever you came with, I guess, but then everybody starts kissing. So it's like, okay, but in a second every, like, I always loved that about the incestuous comedy. scene of New York is that it's like, well, may as well, we probably all fuffed to the past anyway. We could guess. It's New Year's. Hell yeah, let's guess.

But there's still that moment. There's still that one moment before that part happens where you either got someone to kiss or you don't. But that's what I always loved because I was in such a loveless relationship for such a long time that we always, for so many years, we did shows on New Year's Eve. Yes. So we would usually be on stage when the ball dropped. Oh, that's the memory.

Yeah. Oh, I remember whatever I'm going, 10, no. And we're in the middle of a sketch and we're like, fuck, we're missing the ball drop. Dude, the memory is, oh, I won't say his name, even though no one, it wouldn't matter at all. Oh, when he puked? Wait, all right. Well, I will throw Walter under the bus for murder fist. Walter was with this guy, who I liked.

He, you know, is an interesting guy. Yeah. Not a lot of people had issues with him. He was always nice to me. We had a good relationship. He's the one who actually kind of got me into John Waters. and stuff. But, but anyways, we do a murderfish show at this place. It was like this, this big ass murder fish show, um, you know, that was our thing. We like do a show on New

years for, for a number of years. And man, he, I remember he, he, he was drinking gin that night and he got there, like, early. He got there, like, way before, but instead, like, we're, whereas we are, maybe, maybe some of us are having, like, beer or something, but, like, we're, like, working. We're like focused trying to get the show. It's like we usually go. Wasn't that when we were being rebirthed out of that huge pussy that we made? I think like we were...

Was this in New York or Florida? New York. This is a St. Mark's Theater. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I love that theater. Under St. Marks. Under St. Marks, on St. Marks.

You know, St. Mark's like a very, like, almost historical, kind of punk, interesting, cool. Street in New York in the East Village. And there's a theater that a lot of shows have an ad called Under St. Marks. It was this small black box theater. Kind of a good place to like do your first open mic or like your first show. And do experimental shit.

Yeah. Yeah. I was there every week for years. Yeah. It was like underground literally. It was this weird little space. And you and one of the big things about it too is this actually works for the story. The bathroom is awkward.

You have to walk like pat through the stage like pat like onto the stage and into the back to use the bathroom. Oh my God. All of this is coming back. I completely. Oh, my God. So, Brost is there early, and he's drinking, like, I think he just brought, like, a fifth a gin or whatever, or more.

And he's just sitting there making mixed drinks just in the audience. I mean, he is just audibly hammered early, right? It's just a very, very early on. And that we're doing, so what, what happened exactly? We're on the last. sketch, right? I think. Were we on the last sketch of the night? I'm pretty sure we were doing Ed and Holden's Christmas where we act out your two different Christmases. Yeah, which I'm sad because we probably would have done it at Classy Night Out this month for the holidays, but I will be

out of town when Classy Night Out happens. So we will not be doing the sketch. So we can't do Ed and Holden's Christmas without Holden. Without Holden. It wouldn't work. Or you could do it. It would be make me sad. But, uh... We just, like, we're in the middle of the sketch, and we just hear a bunch of people like scream. Because this guy just decides to not just puke in the audience in the show, but projectile all over. All over the front.

And he was sitting in the second row, so he projected out all over the front row. All over a bunch of our friends. Four, and like, and four, like, women that were all dressed up for New Year's because, like, we were all going to go out after. afterwards all over like I just remember specifically her screaming it's in my hair because she couldn't get they couldn't get it out of their hair because he had also eaten so there was just food in it was just oh god it was also horrible it's a one bathroom it's a single person

so everyone's smelling what's going on oh yeah it's a single part I just remember like we were doing the ball drop with like a line of people standing trying to get into the bathroom to clean, puke off of themselves. Like, it was so brutal for, I mean, I laughed and I laughed and we laughed. We definitely were very evil about it. But, man, oh, that was great. I felt bad, though. Like, I did, I remember specifically helping her get it out of her hair.

Like, I remember trying to pull the chunks out. It ruined. That tracks for you, Jackie. Yes. I'll help you wash. I'll help you. I'm sure it was a tiny, I don't remember the, I remember where the bathroom was under St. Mark's, but I don't remember the details, but picture the smallest dive bar

bathroom you've ever been in. I don't even know how you would wash puke out of your hair in one of those bathrooms. You could barely wash your hands. Yeah, you can't even bend over, you know. Yeah. Oh, believe me, because it's puking in that, I've puked in that toilet many a time. It's difficult. Yeah. It's difficult to bend over. Holy fuck. Man, that was, that was a fun one, though. And it always like, but it always made me, even though I loved doing the shows on New Year's Eve, it always felt like I was being robbed of New Year's year's Eve's. But then when we stopped doing shows on New Year's Eve, I'm like, but now what do we do? But then what? Like, exactly. Who am? Who am I? I always why do we always have to work on New Year's Eve. But as soon as I like stopped doing shows, I very quickly stopped caring about going to parties.

Because that's when the pressure, yeah, the pressure would be like, am I doing something fun, you know? And don't get me wrong. I love dressing up and going to a party, but there's just something about, it's like, I feel like the concept of FOMO is like specifically born out of New Year's Eve. It's like you have this extreme pressure to be like, am I doing the best thing? If I know of multiple parties, am I choosing the best one? Or I'm going to try to go to two or three, but am I going to go to them at the right time? There's just something I always feel like I'm doing it wrong. I have this little like voice of doubt in my head on New Year's Eve. Like I should be doing something really special instead of just being like, it's like any other fucking night where maybe the party will be cool and maybe it won't be. And if it sucks, then that'll be a story. You know, what, like, it's fine. That was a thing.

Last year, Jeff and I both had COVID and, like, there was, like, a big party where, like, like, they had rented, like, all of our friends rented out this space and everyone went to this, like, fun party. And I was really sad because we both had COVID. But then, like, we made stakes. And I remember, like, we were watching the Miley Cyrus Christmas or the New Year's Eve show. And, like, we danced in the living room. And, like, we danced in the living room. And, and kissed him. Like, I had this, like, beautiful, romantic little time. And I just, like, burst into tears.

It was, like, this might be my happiest New Year's Eve memory of just the two of us just, like, cooped up together in this house, you know? I feel like that's the New Year's I'm going to remember forever. Yeah, I feel like after, like, when you're single, I mean, New Year's, you're just trying to have a magical, you're trying to make some magical romance happen. You're trying to make it happen. It's these movies. bro, because that's the thing.

When you brought up New Year's movies, and I was like, yeah, I can't think of any New Year's movies. But that's because I think a lot of the New Year's movies that I'm looking up are all romances. Every New Year's movie, you've got, especially from the 90s. Yes, you've got About Time,

which About Time is so sad. You've got when Harry Met Sally, you know, you've got Bridget Jones's diary, which begins on a New Year's and ends on a New Year's. There's so much pressure. And this is part of the reason why, like, even for the Christmas holiday, what we tried to switch up this year with our family is that last year there was so much pressure that it was a pressure cooker and it exploded. And I was like, what if we take, hear me out, the pressure out of the holidays? What if we don't make it like, it has to be perfect.

It has to be everything. And take it off. Why don't we just take the pressure off? Yeah. But that's what's so sad about New Year's is that you can't take the pressure off New Year's because it's a. about the moment. And you want the moment to be so perfect. And it's so difficult for the moment to be perfect.

Well, then you're immediately launched into the whole self-improvement thing, right? Yes. Because it's like you literally wake up hungover on January 1st. You have a headache. You feel like shit. And then you like look at the world and the world is like, when are you going to start losing weight or whatever? And it's like, and even if you, I feel like thankfully a little bit in the last few years,

there's been like a like let's not only do New Year's resolutions about exercise or eating or whatever, but like it's still like your house sucks, you know, you're like it's always, the self-improvement piece is like I am a real, my mental capacity to resist the idea that I should always be doing something to better myself. I'm so susceptible to it and I immediately start feeling like shit and like I have to do something to change up my life, you know, and it's like not inspiring type of motivation. It's like the self-hatred kind of motivation. Yes, and why start the year off hating yourself?

Why do we have to follow the design that you have to completely renew yourself and redo yourself to make you better? This is why I changed this last year and now I'm a full proponent of it this year. Join me, won't you? I see it the same way my mom does lent. My mom does lent rather than giving something up, she believes that it should be something that is like that you are changing for the betterment of your community and your society. Why don't you instead work on something that like enriches you rather than something that immediately knocks you down? Like why do we have to have this perspective of like you're not good enough get better when it could be just something

simple that you start, you know, just something that you can throw into your day, something you can attain because what resolutions do is they set you up for failure. Yeah. It's too much pressure. I think too, though, I, my January 1st vibe is also this deep despair that the,

because it's the holiday break is over. Yeah. And you don't have a break for a long time. It feels like, it's the biggest case of the Sunday,

you know, you feel all year. For the biggest one, because like, you just had this holiday break. It was great. I mean, even in New York, you would get this time off

and like, like, if you had, like, from our jobs or whatever, depending on your job for me, at least it was like this. And maybe I would go home for the holidays for some of it, but I would still get like this kind of fun kind of meaty or break. Even then you get like in the summer, like it used to be in high school. And before like you had, man, that was even worse actually because you had this like juicy, thick, two week plus long fucking just in the middle of your school year, fat break where you also get a bunch of presents.

And oftentimes for me like, let's say like a. video game that I was like addicted to and I just got to play the living shit out of it. And then that January 1st rolls around, you think you're going to enjoy it because you're like, it's one more day off. Hell yeah. But you just spend the whole day just like coming to grips, coming to terms with the fact that you are back in the fucking meat grinder with no end in sight that January 2nd. I will say though, it's the opposite for me this year because again, I will be returning home on the second, and Lexi and Winnie will be going to Florida for a couple of weeks. So I will actually be coming here for a weird. It's a weird staycation for me when that happens

because I just get all this extra sleep and shit. So it's kind of, it's kind of funny. Like my breaks weirdly starts in the second, but it's mixed with, yes, all these feelings of get, I think for me, it's always like X, I guess it's creative endeavors that, I don't get paid for and exercise. Yeah. Right? And like eating healthier, right? Like those are the two.

And back in the, and also, I guess, you could throw in your addictions, right? So I'm going to quit smoking. I'm going to quitting smoking on January 1st is like the dumbest idea ever too, by the way. Setting yourself up for failure. Now, I hear what you're saying, Holden,

but there's also the perspective, too, of the people that don't get time off for the holidays that actually work a lot more during the holidays, like working in a restaurant, but you also still get the slump because even when I worked through the holidays, I worked most Christmas Eve's and stuff like that, I would realize that I would miss the money I was making

because January is so dead in the restaurant business that you're just like, because especially people are trying to lose weight and I worked at a pie shop, guess where they weren't going, so people wouldn't tip because they're broke after the holidays. Or they're mad at you because you made them break their resolution. Because I'm the one giving them the pie. Like, it's like that, there's all these like other feelings too when like you're getting tipped out the ass during the holidays and you're making all this crazy money. You might be banging your head against the wall because you're working so much, but at least you're making a bunch of money.

Yeah. But then the money dries up. And then that's also the slump of January of just like now what the fuck do I do? Well, I will say that my, one of the things that I'm going to do in January this year because every year for here at page 7, awards show season comes around. And every year, I want to blame parenthood, but it's not parenthood. I'm just bad at keeping up with movies, right? So every year, award show season comes around, and I'm always like, fuck, I didn't see like any of the top 10 movies that everybody's talking about. And I feel super left, you know, not left out. I love to leave myself out. I feel super out of the loop.

And I'm like, oh, I wish I had done that this year. But it just gets away from me. I'm like more of a TV watcher than a movie watcher or whatever. But then last year, I was like, okay, I know what I'll do. January is going to be just like Halloween, you know, October, Gideon and I are very good at spending all of October watching scary movies. January is going to be watch all the movies from 2023 month for me. So I'm going to watch all the. So we'll start making a little list for you? Make a little list of the good. And you know, whatever the Oscar ones, the ones I need to know and talk about.

And that way come Oscars because most of those, they start either late January or February when we get into that shit. and then I won't be so out of it. So that's one goal. I love that. It's an attainable, achievable goal may be helpful for page seven listeners who also don't keep up with the movies. Devote January to it because you're fucking bored. You are feeling like you should do something with your life, but you don't know what.

So watching the movies from 2023 at least is going to be one thing I can hang my hat on. I like that. I think, yeah, having something to look forward to in January rather than just deplete yourself and your ego, I think there are like, maybe pepper some things in, you know, now that we're not going home for the holidays, we're deciding to go home probably in the beginning of February. So it's like something to look forward to. Yeah.

Yeah. Something that like we have that's like, oh, there's a little trip on the horizon that we get to go to. Just something, some kind of bright light. Because this is the problem is that now the holidays begin September 1st. So we have like months of feeling like, yee, ooh, it's witchy season, ooh, it's horror season, ooh, it's turkey season, ooh, it's Christmas season. And then it's just darkness.

Bleak from January and through March, it sucks. March, you start to get a little bit of, oh, but your birthday, MJ. Oh, no, I know. I've got the, Marcus always says that his birthday is on the saddest day. January 19th, which I think Marcus has confirmed is like maybe statistical. Actually the saddest day of the year, yes. Holden also has a sad day birthday because it's in that little interim time between Christmas and New Year's, which is a great time in life, but not a great time to have a birthday. No.

It's the, I would say like that day, what's the day for Marcus? Again, what's his birthday? January 19th. It's also the day before presidential inauguration, which made it especially hard in 2016. December 28th is the most, like, quiet day of the year. Yeah. Like, I don't know how to explain. Like, it is the most, everyone is so done being social and doing anything fun.

And because they're like gearing up for New Year's Eve too. So it's just this weird, it feels like no man's land. It feels like a white noise day that does not exist. Like, it is a absolute day to enjoy the gifts you got for Christmas or like just sit in your pajamas all day. Or see cats. Or your traffic. Or you're traveling. Or sea cats.

Which was what we did in 2019. Ccats, the movie theater. Yeah. A great, great day. Amazing. I'm going to Beetleju. By the way, I'm seeing another musical on my birthday. I just realized that.

I'm going to recreate the Lauren Bober incident by going to Beetlejuice the musical on my birthday. I'm going to grope in front of a pregnant woman. It's going to be amazing. I love this. Also, yeah, January 19th is the most depressing day of the year. I have looked it up. That's interesting me because it's just because like everything's faded away from the holidays. You're just like you know you're officially in this new year.

But like you and that good foot you wanted to get on just like ain't happen. It's finally. It's already slipping. There's also an idea behind a psychologist coined the term blue Monday that they worked out the formula to show how the third Monday in January is especially bad. average time for New Year's resolutions to fail, bad weather, debt, the time since Christmas and motivational levels have dropped. And also, you think about that, your credit card bills come in from everything you spent from holidays.

So it's also around that time that you have to start dealing with the mistakes that you made during the holidays. Yes. And like for me in January, that used to be like I used to, which is insane, I racked up so much credit card debt in my 20s just drinking. Almost like I think. I had, I think I had to pay off, I think, $30,000 in debt over the last, like, 10 years because I just put everything on a credit card, which is insane to me. Now is in a, like, in a, as a 36-year-old

what are you talking about, Jackie? You would just go and spend a hundred. That's why I was always buying people drinks. It was all free money. That's incredible. Yeah, that's, uh, that's a lot of money on alcohol. So January's used to be, but now I don't have any credit cards anymore, but this comes to bite me in the ass sometimes. Man, that's so funny. January is a month for getting through. I have one credit card that I don't keep on me. I know a lot of people do dry January, but to me, I have always, like, I know, and this is also the reason I lean so hard into the holidays. I'm like, I know that I get seasonal depression. Like, I forget every year, and every year by February, I'm like, why am I so desperately sad? But it's just

because it's winter and dark and cold, and I don't like it. And so, but like, I've always, I try to approach January, February, and March with just like a, you know, I lean hard into the holidays, like you said, Jackie, from September to December, I'm like, we've got fun, we've got routines and rituals and celebration and light, and then come January, it's just like, you've got to do whatever you need to do to get through this. Yes. And then mid-March, the sun comes up. I will say, I am actually probably more hype about January this year than pretty much any other year

for a couple reasons. Well, your family's going to be gone. My family's going to be gone, so I'm going to get a lot of sleep, and I'm just looking forward to getting a lot of sleep, and also being able to, you know, I'll have a cocktail or two, probably. You know, binge watch my horror movies

and really get my, I did not realize like how much I love total isolation until I had what he had. Oh, yes. Oh, right. I really like being in complete silence alone for hours at a time. I'm, I'll be a lot,

sadder this year. I'm like probably, I've never had more fun with my family than like lately. So I will be actually pretty bummed. But yes, partly because of that also though, there's so much fun stuff like in the works right now for LPN TV. And I'm incredibly excited to finally get to like do these streams that we've been talking about for fucking months now, you know? And so I'm, I'm like, like, finally, For the first time in many years, January, instead of January just being like, all right, let's see what this year has for us. Let's just try to figure it out and kind of feeling a little more like just continuing with the way things are. Like, there's all these new wild swings happening like starting in January, which I think is cool.

I think this is a great way to encourage people that like maybe a creative endeavor rather than losing weight or something like that is something that like you can work on any time of year. maybe start like creative endeavor something that fulfills you something that like that you've been meaning to get to and even if you don't finish it in January who gives a shit yeah you know like I want to get back to my scrapbooking I started scrapbooking over the summer I literally haven't touched it since so maybe in my sad times I do a little scrapbooking let's uh how about two uh I want to throw out there if you're kind of feeling a little more wishy-washy about what maybe that endeavor would be uh I cannot recommend enough the artist's way I cannot recommend enough the artist's way if anyone's ever tried that out other than me and this crew. It's by Julia Cameron. I have been gifted. I have never heard of it. I do have three copies of it. And I'm like, I hear you.

I know I'm supposed to do the artist's way. I've just never committed to it. It's a really good thing to do if you're feeling like maybe a little stuck creatively or if you're just ready to like go to the next level. Uh-huh. And? It's, all you have to do is start sending me to, let's go, $50 a month, okay?

Okay, that's all you got to do. I'll hold these workshops with you, okay? And I'm going to need you to start drinking this like silver drink. It might turn your skin blue. Oh, colloidal silver. It might turn your skin blue a little bit. It's because we watch the Love is One Doc

and she kept drinking all this colloidal silver. That's what you gotta watch, MJ. Fuck these movies. Who gives a shit? It's pretty great. You gotta watch love is one, dude. It's one of the best cult documentaries I think I've seen. Really?

I'm gonna give you a list of things that you've got to watch. Please do give me a list. I'm excited for that. That's the other thing I was gonna say. I'll get back to ours way real quick in just a second, but or pick something fun like that and don't make it like, pick something you're gonna enjoy and look forward to. Like, I'm gonna watch all these movies and that's my resolution.

Like I think that's a way cool. As I'm saying, like something that's just, that's more positive. That's not gonna make you feel. Because if you don't watch as many movies as you watch, you're not gonna be like, I failed my. You're just not going to be able to watch as many movies.

Yeah. But the cool thing about the artist's way, I think it's like a 12 week, like, thing. So you're not, like, just sitting and reading the whole book. You're reading, like, a chapter a week, but it has you do things. So the three major tenants are... And you also have to, like, write in this journal every day. And if you do write in a journal every day and you want to confess something that you've cheated on your partner, don't keep up your morning pages

so that someone else can read it. Which a friend did while working on the artist way. I'm talking about a friend of hours that was doing the artist's way that was doing because you have to do these things called morning pages so you write out your thoughts of the morning. You write three pages stream of conscious

first thing you do when you wake up. It's one of the major tenets of the artist's way. And he had confessed to cheating on his girlfriend and he left it up on his computer and she read it. I can't believe he just left on this computer and that's how she read it. I thought it was just like in a diary he had.

No, dude. It was just up on his computer and she read it. Oh. Well, anyways. He went to work and she read it and then she left him. And I, that, I think,

I'll, I think about that with the art, like connected to the artist's way of like, I always think about that. The cheater's way. Lex and I both have done the artist's way and we've had since that happened.

we were like, I would never read your morning pages. I mean, it's a little different if it's up on the, but we both like had to have a discussion about it. It's like reading someone's journal. Oh, it's like more than your journal because you're literally supposed to like not take your pin off the page for three pages. So you're, I mean, you're talking like a crazy person and a lot of it. But yeah, you're really just revealing whatever.

Which is also great. I highly recommend that's how I journal, like I journal every two days and that's how I journal. I just sit down and just start. writing and just whatever comes out. I put the date down and then I just start writing and just see what pops out. This is one of the things I want to do and feel bad that I haven't done is journaling. Like I've never done it. I've always felt like I should do it. Whenever I do write, it always feels great. And my therapist was like, have you a journal? And I'm like, now. And so maybe this is a good way to do it. It's hard to commit to. But like, but again,

it's another one of those things. You don't fail because you don't do it. It's just something that like if you are able to and you can fit it into your life, try it out. I know. I tried to start it up again. Like, I think even this past year I tried to, kind of coming out of the fog of like infant raising and being like, I need to jumpstart some stuff. And I just, it was so hard. I've just found it hard to commit to all of the stuff and get everything else done and, you know, be a dad and everything. But I do think it's so worth it. And you can kind of also, you can choose to do things and not to do things.

Yeah, it's the, the, you do the morning pages. And I think the other really cool thing that they have you do every single week, which I think is just something everyone should do. It's called the, you take yourself on an artist date. And the whole idea of the artist date is like, you alone, without anyone else, like, go do like kind of an enriching activity. Like go to, take yourself to a museum, go to a park and just like observe people. It could be a lot of different things. But it's actually taking that time to say, I'm going to like focus on my little artist baby in my soul and like really nurture that and and and not make it about anyone else and not make it about, you know, um, indulging in my vices.

You know, I'm going to like be present in the world and like take something in. And if that's like going to a movie or, you know, just like painting a painting, like, whatever it is, you know. But then every week it kind of focuses on something different and has you kind of filling out answering questions or thinking about like your childhood or thinking about it's it's really, really valuable. And I do think it's kind of a chicken or the egg kind of situation. It's like, well, was I already just in that headspace and it was going to happen anyway? But like me making the jump to live streaming and like all this shit and essentially getting to

the point where I could quit my day job. like and live a fully creative life essentially like that was a part of that process doing the artist's way yeah i really do do credited a lot for taking you did say do do do and that means yeah and that's ducky bro and that it is what it is i made a poop joke so what would what would our resolution with all that said what would our resolutions be for uh for 2024 Yeah. I mean, I already made it pretty clear I don't like resolutions. I'm not a big resolution fan. Maybe what if we say goals?

Okay. Which are also, which also set you up for failure. What if we say I resolve, I, Jackie Zabrowski, resolve to definitely do something? What if you say I must do it or I'm a bad person? Oh, see, this is bad. You know, I can't enact the Catholic guilt that lives inside of me because it sits like a monster inside of my brain, waiting to be awoken every other day by almost anything. voice goals and hopes. Wishes? I almost, yeah, because I almost want, like, I want to, maybe that's

what I need to do more. I think I need to manifest more. We should. Ro, I manifested with some bay leaves last night because it was the new moon. And with bay leave manifestation, you write down specifically what you want. I created sigils for it and then burn the bay leaves. Really? I love that. So, yeah, so I'm putting my intentions out there. I'm really trying to, I'm trying to manifest over here. I tried to do that with, I tried to do that last night too, but there were all these explosions started popping off. And there was like a bunch of ego and stuff. And I was like, oh, fuck, these are Michael Bay leaves. Oh, Michael Bay leaves.

Michael Bay leaves a lot of copter shots, I bet. And Michael Bay uses so much drone camera work. It makes me sick. Okay, I'm going to say two things I've done in past January's that I've stuck to and liked. Okay. And maybe that can kind of get people's brains rolling. One of which was, I want to say it was 2013. Gideon and I had more salads, 2013.

It wasn't at all connected to weight loss. It wasn't at all connected to dieting or anything. But it was just like, let's start making more salads with dinner. And I will say it was a lifestyle change that stuck. We both, like, it's not like we eat a salad every night by any means, but we both feel confident that we can make a good salad. And we, the like mental barrier to like, can I make a salad? You can, you know?

And so more salads. And it can be a meal. Yes. And it can be a meal. And it can be. Love a meal salad. You can put enough in there and it can be healthy and still. Like a steak salad with pickled red onions.

And I do, I've been doing like fake chicken, like beyond chicken like in a salad. And yeah, that'll make it a meal. So you can do more salads, 2024. And last year I did do like a decluttering challenge, which is the most Instagram basic I will get. How did it go? It was, I mean, it was great. Like, we are a clutter people. We've got a lot of chachkes.

We got a lot of chachkes, Jackie, but your chachkeys are so intentional. You can't declutter. I also, there's only two people in my home. You have double the amount of people inside of your home. Of course you're going to have more stuff. Well, and two of those people refuse to let us ever throw anything away. Gideon and you.

Him too. The kids. Well, he doesn't want to throw any of the kids art away ever. I was like, we have to keep every piece of art, which is very sweet. But they make like 10 pieces of art a day. And so I'm like, we will be buried. Where do we put this? In their art.

Yes. So I did enjoy like a little spend 15 minutes a day going through. And not like Marie condo style, because I'm never going to be a minimalist. It just won't work. But going through the house and being like, oh, this broken thing that I've been wondering if I'll find out what it goes to. And it's been on my dresser for three years. I don't know what it goes to.

do. I'm going to throw it away, you know. Yeah. Go through the cables, all the weird, random cables we've got in the box. Yeah, we've got a one box of cables. You might have iPhone chargers that for iPhones that no longer exist. I've got old computer chargers. Oh, yeah. Yes, those are two things, the more salads and a little bit of decluttering. It had been things that have worked for me in January's past. I like this. Nice. See, I really put all of my faith in my new fashion choices of every year. So yes, you do. I love that, that you do that. to encourage. And I know that I've sprinkled it in places. And I think that it's fairly obvious the fact that I'm trying to do youthful Jackie 2024. And I've been- Is this your announcement? Is this what, are you going to announce it? Yeah. Youthful Jackie. It's, it's Zumi, it's Zubi Zabrowski over here. Zubi Zabrowski. I'm trying. I'm trying, like, I want to like show off my belly a little bit more. I started buying wide, long, like, I actually own pants now. I've been wearing some like big sweatshirt. and I've just been trying to get out of my comfort zone

with what the, like, you know what it is? It's the shape of what I wear. I wear very, very similar shape of everything. And I was like, I want to switch it up. I need to change something. I just feel like I'm wearing the same fucking thing over and over again. So I'm really switching it up this year that I'm trying out. So it's like, yeah, I can still use my bucket hats.

Yes, I can sit, but I want to get a little bit more uncomfortable with how I'm dressing to see what I like. So it's also an uncomfortable zone, Jackie, 2024, to see what new things I like. And it's a scary venture. And of course, it's not something, it's trial and error. Also something that you can't, like, put too much money into. So it's like I've been doing a lot of like thrifting and stuff like that, trying to find, like, cool old stuff.

And it's been a lot of fun opening up my fashion choices. I don't always have to wear black and leopard print. I can wear colors. What? A goth bitch can wear colors? I love Zuma Zumi Zabrowski 2024. I think it's a great. We all remember the franissance. Oh yeah. Which launched us into this yearly fashion theme for you. Oh yeah. I think that this is a great one. Thank you. I think for me like there's there's health and business, right? I feel like pretty

happy with like where family is at actually by at this point in the air, which is really cool. That's actually a nice feeling that I need to take stock up. Like I'm actually for the first time in a minute because it's just been so chaotic since we had Winnie and there was just been such a change and so there's just, it's just never, it's like hard to find stability

era had been for a little while there and I finally feel like, oh, this feels like this, that we're this unit. I'm feeling the word unit finally for the first time, you know? Totally. It takes a long time to land on your feet, pick yourself up and dust yourself off. Yeah, and be like, and then be like,

oh, we're like, we're up, we're a system now. We're like a, we're a whole thing. We're a beast with many, beast with many backs. And so that's cool. So I think like, like, I'm less concerned with that kind of stuff. So it's, then it comes down to career and health, right? I think for career, I mean, yes, blanket, just statement, just want to make more money. But like, the way that it's looking to do that is to really, really, really.

tap into what works streaming-wise, right? I think that's like this huge, and the sky's the limit with ideas for that. And so I think it's like creatively opening some new, like, pathways and like really starting to develop some, you know, kind of step out of, I feel like I've been on a similar grind for so long with, with both streams and podcasting.

And now it's time to like make some game, like really like, take some new steps. You know what I mean? I think for health, I feel like I'm not going to do this, but I feel like what I should do actually is also break out of my comfort zone

and try workouts that I haven't tried before. Ooh, like what? Well, like, I should join Lexi for a Pilates class. I know she wants me to do that. You know? But I know you can do it. It's just hard. It's a lot harder than you think it is.

It's so hard. No, no, no. I'm ready for a day. to be incredibly hard. You can do it. You got this. But you know, I've done, and I've tried like yoga and stuff before, but like get back into, you know, try to get back into some weight training, stuff like that. Like really just kind of my comfort zone with, I feel like right now it's not enough. And I'm just sort of in this kind of system of, I feel like I'm finally drinking less. So that's cool. Keep doing that. But like maybe even less than still I am drinking.

And then add on to that, maybe some more variety to exercise. really hold myself more accountable to exercise. And remember, joy and movement. That's the thing everyone says now, and I think it's nice. Yes, yeah. You don't move your body because you have to, like find something that you do

because you enjoy doing it. Well, that's what I have been doing with running. Like, I love going on a three-mile run. You like to listen to music and stuff. It just, it's like a peaceful, nice thing. And I'm like, get more used to that routine. But there's more out there. And I should try to maybe find another type of.

Let's go to a Zumba class. Sure. Oh, that would be so fun. I think I should find another workout thing. You know, even if it's like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or something like that, but I need to like try some other stuff and find one other. Blow-job Jackie. Movement outlet.

What? Blow-job Jackie. Yeah, BJJ. BJJ. I said a couple of shows, you know, I said that John does BJJ and Jackie just said blow-job Jackie. I think it's like, I think it's like so, yeah, I guess when it comes down to it, even, and with podcasting, too, everything, it's like, finding new, really breaking out of like the kind of the same old.

And then with, uh, kind of with, oh, it's kind of both then. It's like I need to break out of my fucking tunnel vision on both things. It's like Jackie breaking out of black and leopard print. You got to break out of your, your creative black and leopard print and your body black and, or your movement black and leopard print. Yeah, I got to get out of my comfort zone. But with, with creative and career. stuff and with, uh, but I will, I feel like I just need to point out for people are listening

on there and it's hard to like hear, because you hear people talk about the resolutions and you start to think about yours. I feel like the reason why it's hard to like break out of your comfort zone is like, let us all remember that if you are a millennial or younger or Zoom or honestly even Gen X, if you are alive right now, like there is not a lot of comfort, right? No, everything has been destable. There's no people, people don't have jobs with health insurance. people don't have fucking retirement plans. People are struggling to pay their bills. And so I feel like there's a reason why people get in their comfort zones, right?

And so I feel like I also do the same thing every year. I'm like, I've got to get out of my comfort zone. But I'm like mentally, psychically, physically, whatever, it's like you, it's so hard to ever find comfort because everything is so unstable that there's a reason why you cling to those things. You know what makes it even harder is like you get thrown out of orbit by the holidays themselves. So the last thing you want to do is like break out of your comfort zone January 2nd because what you really want to do January 2nd is like get finally I'm back to my routine.

Finally I can like really sink into that, which is also good. But that's why you got to shake it up before you fall back into the routine. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Is the secret really just to not be hung over on January 1st? Is that really the secret? It sounds like that's the beginning of the curse. Will any of the three of us find out?

No. I probably will. I'm still in the, you know, I feel like I probably will because it's just, what am I, what are we going to do? Because, yeah, oh, yeah, I totally will because I'll be in fucking Charlotte. So I, actually, I already see this happening. My brother will convince me to drink that extra like whiskey at whatever a clock. Oh, yeah. When you'll decide to wake up extra early and it'll be like, yeah, not.

But man, January 1st, I'm going to be like, what's a? Because that'll be the last day of this. just relentless holiday break I have in front of me. Florida and Charlotte, it's already getting topsy-turvy. We're already have to book hotels on nights we didn't think we had to and stuff like that. But, uh, yes. Well, everyone give yourself a break this year and don't have the goal of waking up not hungover on January 1st, but maybe have the goal of waking up not hungover on January 2nd. January 2nd.

If you're listening to this today, it's January 4th. Uh, so you can have the goal of maybe waking up not hung over on January 1st. Take it in there. Let's at least get that one. And January 5th, man, reel it in, bro. Like, seriously. Don't be so hard on yourself, too. Just remember, don't be so hard on yourself.

Yeah. You know, it's hard enough getting through the winter. So just be good to yourself. So easy to say. I know. When you don't have the judgment of your parents looming over your back and every wake of it by that time. Or your own brain, right?

Like, I'm not even getting judgment from my parents. It's my own brain that's just like, are you sure you're not doing a bad job at everything? Because it might be. That's why I listen to audiobooks. So, you know, I got to drown out that voice telling me that I'm always doing a bad job. So maybe that's the goal for me for fucking J. 2024.

Shut that voice up. Shut it up. Put it in a cage, MJ. And throw that cage into the Hudson. Yeah. We don't need it in here anymore because we're all trapped on the inside. And we've got to be free. MJ, we got to be free.

So thank you guys for starting the new year, you know, January 4th, yeah, that's the new year with us. And for sharing, you know, let us know. Have you had a really bad New Year's Eve? I'd love to hear about it. And if you need to, maybe you just had a bad New Year's Eve and you need to decompress. Yeah. If anybody has had any good New Year's Eve stories, please send them in page 7 podcast. Let's make it like a meat puke situation.

I would love to do another meat puke. I mean, we just talked about the meat puke that we had on New Year's Eve with Walter's boyfriend. Man, yeah, I don't think I have a better memory than that, man. That was just on fire for sure. That was a wild one. Absolutely. That was a good one. Absolutely.

Here's to your resolutions. May you not fail yourself and may you be good. Hell yeah. I guess. Is that fine? Hell yeah. I think so. I'm trying to be positive about resolution.

I'm just so scared of failure. Oh, yeah. Anyway, I'm sure that you got... And also let us know what your resolutions are, too. If you've got a great one that's like a positive one that you think that you're actually going to, like, stick to this year, let us know that too. Let us know.

Lepardust at gmail.com. What else? What other... Twitch.com slash hold nators hoe as we wrap this up. What else? Page 7... Patreon.com, ford slash page 7 podcast. Please check us out on that.

we are trying to crank out as much bonus material as we possibly can for you guys. Keep listening to the show. You guys are the best. And thank you guys so much. MJ? And I'm MJ and I'm MJ KL can on Instagram. I'm going to be decluttering with all those bitches. Join me.

Yes. Yes. Declutter with us. We love you guys so much and we'll be back next week. Hell yeah. Bye, everybody. Happy New Year. This show is made possible by listeners like you.

Thanks to our ad sponsors. You can support our shows by supporting. them. For more shows like the one you just listened to, go to lastpodcastnetwork.com.