Page 7 - Talkin' TV - Beady Little Eyes

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

This week MJ, Jackie and Holden are gossin' 'bout the ridiculous ending of Perfect Match (including some first hand experience from Stalker Jackie as she talks about her prey gettin' his Garf fix), Jackie heads to England for Hulu's I Kissed A Boy, Milf Manor is fully getting it's insano energy back with Kelly and Rebecca clashin' and gross gross dog Anthony, Jackie tips her 10 gallon hat to America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, Holden gets his trainwreck fix with Couples Therapy, and Jackie continues her wintery stay in the House of the Dragon  Perfect Match Season 2- NetflixI Kissed A Boy - HuluMILF Manor Season 2 - MaxAmerica's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders - NetflixCouples Therapy Season 4 - ShowtimeHouse of Dragon Season 2 - MaxGhost: Rite Here Rite Now - IN THE THEATAHHHHTwister - Amazon PrimeWant even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

We're talking TV with MJ Holden and Jackie talking TV. And you know it's going to get a worker. Everybody knows what everybody knows. And everybody knows we're watching shows. We're talking TV with MJ Holden and Jackie. It's a round. It is around. It is around.

And I lost this round. Yes. I have to take out my headphones so that I, because we're all on a delay. It's a whole thing. And then I lost the thread. Then my brain just stopped working. Maybe it's because it's so full up of, ooh, juicy, juicy reality television. Welcome to Talking TV.

And we have got some TV to talk today, y'all. We have finished up perfect match. We are still desperately trying to get through this Melfth Manor season. And I am excited to be talking about both of these things. Yeah, which one do we want to start with? Should we get into perfect match? Let's get into perfect match. I feel like there's a lot to say.

I feel like I just got a dissertation and perfect match because there was so many episodes. And the last episode was so long. Long. Maybe just because I was trying to watch, it was not a show that my husband was interested in, nor was he able to watch it with me. So it was like, I was squeezing it in, man,

trying to get into it. But I feel like I've had more Nick LaShacheon. in my life than I need for the full rest of my life. Wow. But I am ready to talk about this show. I just pulled up an article of all right.

Spoilers, first of all for like all of them. Do you just pull up the Netflix article about whether or not they're still together? Yeah, they're all broken up immediately. Because none of it's real. I mean, none of it's real. It was so, I even felt that so deeply like

watching all of the couples at the end. I was like, this is all, none of these are real. Even Stevin and Alara? Oh God, Stephen and Alara. I will say apparently Christine and Nigel, which, okay, big spoilers, where I'm about to spoil the entire show.

I thought it was ridiculous that Christine and Nigel won. They were barely there. They just got together. I couldn't, but I was like, what a weird one. They were barely there. And I'm sorry that I know that Stephen is like,

like a walking red flag. But I think unfortunately, Stevin and Alara should have won because they did seem to really like each other and repeatedly chose to not go with other people despite being tempted and repeatedly decided to go back to each other. I really thought that they deserved it,

even though looking at Stevin and especially him and the testimonials, what drugs was he on in the testimonials? He looked really down bad. I don't trust Stevin. Yeah, Stevin is, I don't know what Stevin's life is like, but I would say he makes some interesting choices. When they were talking about how like there were cast members

like smuggling booze onto the van on the way to the games, I'm like, Stevin. That's definitely Steven. But like Steven seems like less sober in the testimonial than he does in the show. And the show he seems like he's, I mean, he makes a lot of questionable choices. And even though he kept recommitting to Alara, he would do it in these fucked up ways.

Like when he lied to her about, kissing somebody else and then was like, actually I'm just fucking with you. Like, if my partner did that to me, I would be like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. She, of course, she was like, oh, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, 40. 70 years, yeah. I love that. Oh, you sound cheeky.

But, but, but, but, yeah, I do think that, I do think it's absolute bullshit that Christina and Nigel one have been coming at the last hour of the show. This is, yeah, and can, also, I can't believe we have been recording for hours and I have not brought up the fact that I saw Harry Jousy at the AMC. I was wondering if we were going to talk about it. At the AMC. I followed him through the AMC. I definitely took pictures from him behind him and I sent them to MJ and to Holden.

And I was with my husband who did not give a shit. And I was just like, it's Harry. I literally just watched the final episode of Perfect Match. And of course he was with another woman. I mean, I didn't expect him to be with Jess. You know, I don't know what I expected when you see a reality star out in the world. But it's just so weird because there's so many reality stars that live around here. In L.A.

I know that you see April Jane, which admittedly is like, you know, Miltf Manor, we can all say it's pretty budget reality show. I think a lot of the MILFs live in this neighborhood. Yeah, it is a MILF. I see them out and a boots. Yeah, this is a MILF Central. Harry is a high ticket reality star and perfect match is a high ticket, you know, too hot to handle. He's like a big, and I don't, and I, I'm so glad you texted us about it. Thank you.

I was going to ask, do we want to respect his privacy enough to not say what movie he was seeing? No. Because I do think that the movie he was seeing is very funny. Because, so here's the thing. I'm behind him. I'm getting popcorn. And I was like, Jeff said they have 3D glasses. do you think they're watching Inside Out 2,

or do you think they're going to see Garfield in the movie? And I said, well, I'm going to follow them and find out. So I did very, like, I was real, I didn't go anywhere near them. I was being real creepy from afar, and they were going to go see Garfield. I just think that the fact that he was seeing Garfield instead of Inside Out 2 is the funniest possible. Yes.

Especially because he spent so much time being like, I'm really working on myself. I've been in therapy for a year. And listen, maybe he had already seen inside out too. Maybe he's already seen inside out too. Maybe he saw it on the day that it came out. But there's just something so symbolic about the fact that there are two choices. All right.

They guys say golfing. Get me out. Stop point. I'm going to see golfing. A bit more of golfing bad myself. Wait, and I miss this. Was he on a date or was it a buddy hang? No.

I mean, there was no touching betwixt them, but she was real hot. Yeah. He was a hot lady. He says he's working on himself. He says he's been in therapy for a year. Yeah, I'm fascinated. I find Jess to be like actually, I think the most, like, compelling person I think I've ever seen on a reality show. I don't know if you guys agree with me.

Why did she go on this show? I think she's smarter than all of them, right? She has more, like that's what I find Jess. So, Jess, I actually find her very charismatic in addition to being extremely hot. She's very charismatic. She's very talented at like, she just is like skill. Like she is playing in the majors and everyone else is in the Bush leagues. I love watching her on reality TV because she is just so, she's better at it than it itself.

She has transcended the form. But she's very bad at choosing, I would say. Very bad at choosing men, but fantastic at being on television. And I wonder if it's just because she's like one of the first really hot reality stars to also be a mom. and that has given her some level of self-possession and self-reflection or something. She's such an interesting person. Way more interesting than I think all the rest of them

who are just like truly seem like empty-headed people. And then she chooses Harry. And Harry is like the opposite in terms of being an interesting. He's just like, oh, you are just a tall man with a fucking, like I'm picturing like a single ball bearing like rattling around. There is nothing in that man's head. And I want to feel compassion for him

because he spent so much of this season being like, I'm trying really hard to break my old patterns. He wrote her a letter after he cheated on her, MJ. So that's growth. I want to believe him. And I also, this week I listened to this really interesting podcast about raising boys, which I don't have any boys, but it was just a parenting podcast and I listened to it.

And it was really interesting. It was talking about how like from the beginning of when boys are, when boys are babies. There's a lot of parenting discourse talks about how, you know, they're like, they're wild and crazy and they're so physical. And like, there's kind of like a joke that people will say, like, boys are like dogs. You just need to like exercise them and like give them water and food. And like the podcast I was listening to was like it really, I think part of the discourse around like being a boy mom, it like really is a disservice to the emotional intelligence of boys who do have, of course, the same like range of human emotions.

as girls, but it's not fostered in them. And it's, they're never, they aren't taught about their emotions from a young age. Because oftentimes those emotions might be coming out in these physical or aggressive ways. And they're not talk, they're not sat down and talk to the way that you might sit down and talk with like a girl who's crying or something. And so I was like thinking about all this when I was watching Harry, I was like, what happened to you? Like how did you grow up to be a man who is so. Thinks that these are the right choices? Yeah.

And who like really seems to want to change, but actually seems incapable of it. Like I actually do have some level of compassion for him, except that he just also seems like, he said, I'm doing the work. He's not very bright. Yeah, he's like, I'm doing the work. I'm doing the work. And I went back and forth between being like, maybe you really are doing the work. And then being like, you are just a, like a shell of a brain.

Like, where is your brain? you just, this girl just hops on you. And also, I'm sorry, Melinda, that was bitchy. But like this- Melinda, that was bitchy. That was bitchy. I mean, he's being like, I'm gonna fuck you. Yeah, and then I'm gonna put a baby inside of you.

What was that? Yeah, I mean, honestly, though. All the while, he's like, I'm gonna marry Jess. I'm gonna have children with him. Maybe he's putting some work into his, like, serial cheating and stuff like that. Maybe he's, like, putting that work in, but I don't think he's putting work into his alcoholism.

I think that was the real issue. He was so. He was sober for 13 months before this show. Yeah. And he said that he broke his sobriety on this show. Yeah. So maybe he was trying and he just should not be put on a show where it's copious amounts of alcohol and it's kind of like pushing you to make poor choices. Yeah.

Yeah. That actually, that is, I know we talked last week about how drunk he is. And since you pointed it out, Holden, I watched, I had more to watch this weekend. So drunk. Wow. Yeah, we kept, we, we just kept me like, dude, he is so, I mean, so many people are hammered. Izzy. Izzy was so hilarious.

But you know what? I drink, if I was Izzy too, he just keeps getting used by everybody. No one actually wants to be with him. No one wants to fuck him. Micah is so trashy for that. Micah is trash. Micah is trash. So is Kaz.

Honestly, they fucking deserve each other. Cas is whatever. Yeah, Micah, oh, I love how, I know Stevin is an asshole. But do you like, how when he was like, I mean this in the nicest way possible, but Micah is like a fun sucker where it's impossible to feel happy around her. And I was like, okay, that's actually not nice at all. There's no.

It's a terrible thing to say about somebody. She does seem like that though. She seems like she sucks the joy out of any situation or relationship. She's always just like, yes. She is a vortex of negativity. And I don't know how they keep putting her on television because she's not charismatic. She's not like she has a huge insecurity. Obviously she's a beautiful person, but like she has a huge insecurity complex that prevents her from being even in the same league as any of the other women in terms of confidence.

You know, so it's like why let this poor woman free. Let her go pick up the pieces that were shattered after she was on love is blind. You know, on the one hand, I'm like, I'm glad that Netflix just is making a business out of employing these people because I'm happy for them that they just keep getting work out of it. but on the other hand, I'm like, some of these people need to be set free. Like, Melinda is obviously like a professional bitch who can, like, be a reality person, and her ego is strong enough that it's not going to shatter her as a human being. But that is not true for people like Izzy and Micah. And honestly, Harry.

Yeah. He needs help. He needs help. He didn't look visibly drunk at the AMC going to see Garfield at about 2 p.m. on a Saturday. I do wonder if he continued his sobriety after the show. I hope so. I don't know. I, this is actually making me feel, that, that little tidbit is actually making me feel more compassion for Harry than I even had before because I was like, you know, I, there is, I kind of, I follow one of the guys who's like part of the movement to, like, try to get Netflix some accountability around how much they fuck with their cast members. And obviously they, like, Netflix is the real villain here, right? Not Harry. Yes. But also, like, how can you be this consistently bad of a man over and over and over?

What is happening? What is happening? I don't know, man. I don't know. But I am, I'll watch any show he's on. Yeah. That's the problem. It's great reality.

Like bad, does he have just like a, yeah, I feel like there must be some like unresolved family male role models going on? Well, and the lying. It's that shit is so egregious. Like the way that he. tried to fucking gaslit gaslight what's her name i know she's terrible and everything but like the way he tried with melinda yeah with melinda the way he just tried to be like it didn't happen it didn't happen none of it happened and then they show and especially under the guys if she's just trying to find her 10 minutes it's the most like victim blamey yes like that's the classic right oh they're just accusing

me so that they can like be popular you know so they can like be famous which is insane it's just like the cuties situation with zeneb and cole when they were arguing about this thing that did happen or didn't. And it's like, guys, there's cameras rolling the whole time. We could just figure out if it happened or it didn't. Yeah. And of course, just like that moment with the cuties, they waited until the very end. They let everybody destroy each other's psyches instead of just playing the tape.

And then, of course, they play the tape. Of course, he kissed her, of course. And then he said, you didn't get it on camera, did you? So, of course, he was like, it was not even just an accidental lie. How they kind of presented is like, oh, maybe that happened for like a split. I was drunk and I kissed her for a split second. Shit, shit, let's pretend it didn't happen, which isn't. which isn't sympathetic, but is different than what he did do,

which is say, you didn't get that on camera, did you? Yeah, man, what a villain. And I just, I just, I just, I, just obviously needs to do some more work on herself too because she keeps choosing these bad men and she's just really hot. Just immediately. Immediately. That's like the problem with both. And we can talk about Bill Fanner with this too. It's like there's just this weird like tunnel vision thing that happens.

And it's like, the whole point is you're supposed to like mix it up. It's so antithetical, though, to, like, what the game, like, if you want to win the game. If you want to win the game, you're trying to have the perfect match and be, that's why the results are so baffling to me that they chose. Who voted for them? I don't understand. It was only by one vote. The word on the street is that the people that were outside of the house got together and decided to all vote for them because they were, like, upset that they had been, like, out of the house. Oh, team outside the house.

Team outside the house came together. That makes so much sense. They were blocked out by... Yeah, they shouldn't have let the people outside the house vote. I'm sorry, the disenfranchised people. They were blocked out by all these other guys. They weren't even in the game. Yeah, that is so funny.

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recommendation, and I want to give a shout up to Darkly Davy because I did just see the recommendation yesterday. And Darkly Davy did say that we should start watching Hulus. I kissed a boy. Now, I had heard about this show because I had heard rumors of, like, another season. I know that There's also, I kissed a girl. I kissed a boy is a bunch of sexy, differently British boys. And the way that they all meet is they're all matched up and they don't know each other. And they see each other and they have to walk along ways and they have to kiss to see if they have a spark. And that's how it starts.

And I was like, oh, I'm here for this. Yeah, that's fun. very much a sexy gamed everybody's going to be banging. But then also there's one person who had just come out and it literally never kissed a man before. And so at that meeting was his first kiss. How did it go? And it was very fast. And afterwards he did admit to all of them that it was his first kiss.

And they all were so supportive and so like, oh, that's all. you know, like so happy for him too? And I was like, okay, here for all of this energy. So it's a season that came out last year. And I don't know if there's more coming out, but I'm in the second episode. And I'm about to slurp this down the back of my throat. And I just want to say thank you, Darkly, Davy, for the recommendation.

And you were right when you said it has everything that Jackie wanted from that biking movie that failed to deliver. So thank you. That's awesome. I do want you guys to watch it, so I won't say much more about it, but I think you should watch it. Yeah, I had just started.

I was like, this is Alexi and Me's show. Yes. And we had to finish perfect match last night. Because it was four hours long. But Milf Manor, I also got caught up on, you're right, the ass touching sequence was disgusting and foul. And I did appreciate that. but man,

heating up the drama in the house, I'm actually engaged again in this show with the just sheer amount of... That little whore. This week's... Beautiful little whore. But you're right. This week's was good.

We're talking about this before we started recording. Holden, you are completely correct in the fact that I can't even remember. I'm just going to call her beautiful... That the beautiful whore's coming in. I can't remember her name. Rebecca. Rebecca, maybe. Rebecca.

And she's doing exactly what she's supposed to. to be doing. She came in and started dating dude. She's dating around. She's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, she's dating around. She's dating around. Maybe it was one thing to kind of like be over the top with Anthony,

Mr. Grossman, Italian man. I still love it, but Daddy, I love him. Because that was like, maybe that, maybe she was a little over the top with him, maybe. But I mean, he was totally going for it 100%. But the other guy is like clearly more into her than, uh, uh, uh, Kelly. Kelly. What's the horrible thing?

Yeah, Kelly. Kelly's just a worse. Yeah, she's just an awful person. She has gone after every woman who has interacted with a man she likes. But you love her. Like, here's the thing. With Kelly, she's evil.

And I know that she's bad. But like, when she comes walking out, when they're in the hot tub and she goes, and she's like, hey bitch. Hey, bitch. Yeah. There was part of me that's like, but here's the thing. there's a place in the world where friend Kelly is a fucking OG that will come in and protect you, not that you need protecting. And maybe I've been that friend in the past.

So maybe I do understand a little bit where Kelly comes from. But Kelly was acting for herself, not for a friend. I mean, she has also acted for her friends, right? She was also standing up for Lynette, but you know she was more standing up for herself. That didn't seem like Lynette because she had been bitchy to Lynette when Lynette connected with Anthony because she wanted Anthony. So I don't see, I hear what you're saying. I would love to, like, I think Jackie has a little bit of, I mean this in the best way. You have a little, you have a little Kelly inside of you, but it's a Kelly that can be harnessed for good.

Yeah, but also it could be harness for bad. Like my life falls apart again. Can you imagine the Kelly that's going to come out? single in my 40s. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, we all need a little bit of Kelly at us. And you're right.

The, hey bitch to say hello. And then at the end, bye bitch again. It was really fun. But she's just only thinking about herself. And I think, yeah, what's good about you, Jackie, is that you're not a selfish person. I appreciate that. You channel your Kelly.

You channel your Kelly to scream at people who have wronged those you love. And Kelly is. only capable of thinking about Kelly. But you know what I actually thought was really sweet this week and very sad was that as Lynette was like devastatingly

packing herself up to leave because Anthony betrayed her for one last time. Anthony's son, Joey, who is Captain Numnuts who was as vacant headed as hairy but also was like helping her pack and was like

kind of hugging her. He didn't even say, he didn't do anything to defend his dad. He was just like, I think you're really great. He keeps saying in the testimonials. He's like,

I think Lynette would be so great for my dad. Like, it's like this weird moment in the show where the fact that it's actual dads with their actual sons is shining through. And he act,

this son actually just wants his dad to be with a nice lady. I know, but he makes doggy boy decisions. He's a doggy boy. He deserves to be punished like a dog. He's such a dirt bag, man. It's so funny.

Classic old Italian guy. I don't like that, but a lot of them are, man. And that is being absolutely proven by... I know, but I melt for it. I hate that I melt for it. It makes me dislike myself that I melt for it. When he goes up to her and he's like, any time, he says, like, let me cook you some dinner. Come on.

Let me give you a massage. Let me cook you something. That panties fall off. And then he betrayed her. And you can tell that Joey, the son in the testimonials, he keeps, he feels bad. He feels so like he is so like it's, it's actually like I think a little, I put like, you know, if you put a therapist hand on and watch it, you can tell that this guy is like, can the son, the young one is like, can my dad please stop being like this?

Like here is this wonderful woman in front of him who would be like a great person for him in his life and he is self-sabotaging. But why doesn't he say it? I know. Masculinity, man. And what's so funny is that he doesn't know how. And he's going to lose to the younger guy. There's no way he's going to beat the younger guy. But man, when he was simulating ass fucking her by rubbing her shoulders, that was amazing.

What a piece of shit. I know. Anthony really comes across like a gentleman, but he is a doggy boy in a gentleman's body. And all of him, just cuts to Lynette. He's like literally simulating her in the ass and like smiling and rubbing her shoulders. Lidette's watching it cuts to her confessional. it just didn't make me feel very special. And so, in the future,

and she kept saying it. So I was like, that's such a fun line. I'm definitely going to say it to Lexi next time. Like something like awful happens. I'm like, that just didn't make me feel very special, now, did it? It's just such a funny statement to make.

Yes, the guy who made me dinner was pretending to ask fuck another woman. It just didn't make me feel very special. Yeah, totally. I mean, he's a dirty dog, man. You know, but there's... Also, it's so ridiculous. Chris and Barbie.

Chris talk about an idiot. Chris might, I think that he has been hit in the head too many times. He is not a bright man. Right. Yeah. And I'm fine with saying that because we've said this already. Word on the street is he's a bad man in real life. So I can say he's dumber than a brick.

Well, and he's about to be a dick in the next episode apparently. It's about, right? Yeah, it looks like he's going to break Barbie's heart. Yeah. That was the next on. for Mel Fanner, it was her crying. I don't watch him anymore because I like to be surprised. Yeah, he'll turn.

I mean, I'm not, yeah, right. Is it a surprise to know that Chris is going to break Barbie's heart? Right. Yeah, he's going to break her heart. But also, fuck you, Stacey, for asking out Shawna right in front of Crystal. Talk about a dirty dog. Talk about a dirty dog. Dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty, doggy, doggy dog.

What a dumb gambit? Why would he do that? What a stupid man? Because it's anybody who has eyes can tell he just doesn't like. Like, Crystal, he's just not that into her. He's just not that into her. And I'm sorry, Crystal, you need to take a hint and move on. And I'm still, he is a dirty dog.

And I'm mad at him and I'm team Crystal, of course. Crystal's great. But, like, girl, have enough respect for yourself to notice that this man is not interested in you. He's not interested in. You must keep it moving. Yeah. Like, and if there's nobody else, if you don't want to fuck any of the children, and there's none of the other daddies that you're interested in,

then just get out of Dodge. Yeah, pull a Lynette. Or stay at it. the drinks and the drama. You know, she's great at just sitting in the corner judging her. Rolling her eyes. Oh my God, I love Crystal. I just like, yeah, I don't want her to leave. I want more of her

though. That's why I want her to like bang Stacy, but Stacy is, you know, absentee dirty dog. Yeah. I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, we all know that Stacy also, you know, is the one who came in with a estranged relationship with

his son. He also, I mean, again, talk about the son. Son who wasn't sex. enough. Bye son. Not sexy. Not sexy enough. But also he, Stacey is clearly, I mean, he brings up his divorce every time he does. He's clearly a man who has like a lot of stuff, a lot of work to do, a lot of processing to do. But then, yeah, and so he keeps being like Crystal, like, I'm, I'm into you, but I've just, I've been hurt, my divorce, blah, blah, blah. And then this like a hotter lady comes in, to, in his eyes. And he's just like, goodbye. Oh, look, I'm fixed. Oh, wow. Yes. go on a date with me.

And I love that she was like, no, not going to do it. Man, I love Shauna's energy. I love her vibes. And I love that she's into Joey. I know. I know. She's like, I'm going to reject this man in his 50s for this 24-year-old boy

whose dad is a dirty doggy. And I think that's great for Shana. But maybe my eyes are turning towards him. Maybe Joey's the dumb doggy that I crave. Yeah. Joey seems very nice. Yeah. He seems like he might actually not be a horrible person, which is really an achievement when it comes to being a cast member of this show.

It certainly is. Now, speaking of people that I guess should be judged, but it really depends on what perspective you're watching this show. Honestly, Holden, I thought about you the, I thought about you. Oh, my goodness. But not like Bridgeton, the entire time while I watched America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboy Chiladers, this docu-serie. that just dropped on Netflix and I am slipping it up I couldn't decide whether I

would like be into it or not I'm going to be real with you Holden the reason why I thought about you was because it was one of these shows that I feel like it was like this is the kind of show that I feel like Holden would tell me to watch and I'd be like why the fuck would I want to watch six hours about the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and it's like oh because it's an insane

weird world and how difficult it is to be a part of. So it, like, follows during a season. It follows, like, the audition process. Also, okay, things right off the gate, this is not even, like, things you have to wait for to learn. They barely make, A, Dallas Cowboy Chairleaders, bake, make almost no money.

I'll bet. They have to have a full-time job on top of the ridiculous amount of work they have to put into. I also, I'm going to be real with you, didn't know anything. about the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Like I knew that they were a thing. Like I know that they are like a big sexy dance group and that's all I knew. But did you also know that even the people that are in the Dallas Cowboy Cheatleaders, they have to audition every year.

They, every single person has to audition every year and go through this grueling, awful process. And then they also have to like, like you think, oh, It must be easier for girls that were already on the team. It's actually much harder for the, I'm sorry. Yeah, they're all hard. No, because like, can they, because they have to be even better than they were the year before. Oh, my God. To compete with the 19-year-olds that are coming in that are better than they are, that are younger than they are.

And there's only like a certain amount of years that you can even do it. But like, this is like, this is a love. Yeah. This is an obsession. This is something that like means every. everything. Because also, like, obviously the world of cheerleading and the world of dance, two very different things. But I guess Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders is where it like kind of comes together. So it's not just like perfection in dancing. It's about personality. It's about

being the full package. And do you know how hard it is to uphold being the perfect package? I'm sucking up this docu series. If you think I don't give a shit about a cheerleader, but any of this sounds fascinating to you, watch America's Sweetheart's Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. Cool. I'm sold. That sounds great.

It's real good. My big wreck of the week is season four of couples therapy. It's bad. Oh, yes. Such a good show. I still never seen it. I haven't jumped the gun and gotten showtime. This is a great season to jump in.

Yeah. It's different couples every season. season so you don't have to like keep up with it in that way and this season that features a poly couple or thruple okay and it's so interesting it's it's it's two ladies and a dude and man is it fascinating to like unpack their whole deal it's it's yeah it's really you know and they and all their terminology and stuff they're like we're the anchor couple we don't like to say primary couple because it leads you know it shows favoritism it's just like but clearly like there's a main, there's a number one,

and then the other one's the number two, kind of, and then she's sort of trying to figure out her, you know, place and everything. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's just, it's interesting. Yeah, that's another one. Gideon just doesn't want to watch it, and I really want to watch it.

So maybe I should, I have to get showtime, but it sounds like it's worth it. Everybody talks about, I feel like this is the show that everybody talks about. Everybody loves. I get so sucked in. I just love it. so much. And yeah, it's a great season so far. I really like the, the couples in this one are

really interesting. Like, there was like, like, the last season, I feel like there was like, there was like this dickhead guy that just was like, it was frustrating to watch because it's, like, it wasn't ready to be in therapy. Yes. And that was. Which was an interesting problem for her to navigate. I think it's good to watch. Like, it's cool to watch, but I definitely, I'm, I'm way, even more intrigued with a couple. I feel like this one, they're, they're more willing to get into like the nitty gritty. There's another couple that just have had a lot of trauma in their pasts and like that brings them together, but it also like causes all these problems. Like that's been fascinating. So yeah, I just, I'm just absolutely great. I can't, can't recommend

it. It's not, Esther Perel, the famous couples therapist isn't involved with this show. Is she, it's a different, the couples therapist is just some lady because there's a, I heard Astaire Perel. She is, I actually know someone that has gone to this couples therapist that is in the show. The one on couples therapy? Yeah. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah.

So Sarah Porella is like, I heard her on a Dr. Becky podcast actually, which is a parenting podcast, but she also has. Doesn't she also write? What is she write? Does she write? She came for, oh, mating and captains. She's written many mating in captivity. That's what she read.

Mating in captivity. I love her. And I find all of the stuff I've heard of her. Like, I haven't listened to her podcast, but I haven't listened to her podcast, but I've heard her guest on several podcasts and just hearing her talk about couples therapy. I feel like I come away a better person just listening to a couple's therapist. Honestly, you'll have that with couples there. Like watching the show couples therapy.

That's why I love to watch it with Jeff. Because then like we have these awesome conversations while watching it and just like pausing to be like, all right, if we're in this situation, like in talking about that. So it's actually one of my favorite parts about watching couples therapy. is the stopping and the talking and the, like, thinking about how this could pertain to your life or, like, the advice or the information. Obviously, not all of it's going to pertain to your life. But every once in a while, you can just, like, get these, like, great, like, oh, that's a great

way of thinking about that. I never would have thought about that. Yeah. It's almost like free therapy. Right. Yeah, it's really good. And, by the way, it's Orna Goralnik is the couple's therapist. So, no, it's not that person.

But, yeah, she's fantastic. She's real. I'm jealous. I'm like. God, she's so good. Cool. Okay. I'm glad it's bad.

I saw people talking about it again, and I was like, are people just talking about this because everybody loves it? Yeah. It's a new season. New season. And speaking of new seasons, I am finally all caught up. It took a little over a week for us to watch all of the first season of House of the Dragon. And now we are fully caught up to the current season that is coming out week to week.

And, you know, I think it was a fun question. I was talking about this over on Jack and with the Holdies last Friday. And someone asked me, do I feel that this is, I'm enjoying the show much more than I did last week? And they asked if it was because of Stockholm syndrome. And I don't think that that's the case. And I believe that the person was coming from it because they might not be enjoying House of the Dragon, which I understand. It is not for every because here's the thing. What I've really realized, Game of Thrones is battling.

It's all the fun violence. It's all the other sort that it's included in with the politicking. This is way more politicking and way more like no, not big battles. Like I think that we're coming to that. But like it was a full season of talking essentially with little bursts of little violence. And then some dragons, occasionally a dragon. And then occasionally dragons. And I think that a lot of people, I am assuming, are angry about that, that it's not Game of Thrones, that it is very different.

And to be fair, I have not looked into much of the discourse on House of the Dragon because I was trying to go no spoilers because I didn't know anything about it. So now I'd love to look at it more. And, you know, if you've got strong feelings about House of the Dragons, let me know, page 7podcast at gmail.com. I'm curious because, like, it just, I feel like I'm seeing it get equally the amount of hate as it is. accolade. And I'm just curious. I'm like, I know no one else that has watched this show, so I can't speak to anyone about it. I'm just wondering what other people feel about it. Yeah. I also want to just throw out there that one of the stars of it is Emma Darcy, who is a non-binary actor. They are amazing.

Extremely hot. And there was this really nice moment. I don't know if you guys saw this, that Matt Smith was being interviewed. And on a, BBC show, I think. No, Sky, Sky News. And the interviewer had misgendering Emma Darcy. And Matt Smith was just like, firmly but politely correcting, like, would be like, yes, they are amazing. And everyone is just like, that's how you do it. Like, you know, it wasn't like a big ordeal. But Matt Smith was just like, yes, they are brilliant. And it's very, very nice. I feel so bad. because Matt Smith, like, I've never seen an interview with Matt Smith. I don't know anything about Matt Smith specifically.

The only thing I know about Matt Smith is that he's very good at playing very shitty people. And I only know him from House of the Dragon and Prince Philip, the Clune. Prince Philip, Prince Philip and the Clune. And so I look at his face and I'm like, who would want to kiss that face? Look at that face. Dude. But a word on the street is apparently he's just a great person who's like an amazing actor, but I only know it from his work.

So I'm just like, fuck that guy. I have done a huge 180 on Matt Smith's hotness. And I think this really, him correcting the misgendering of emmercy really helped. But I used to, he was a doctor and I would sit with Gideon when he watched Doctor Who. And I was like, I don't want to kiss him. And then also the crown made me want to kiss him. I don't want to kiss Prince Phillips. It made you want to kiss him?

Yeah, I'm as baffled as you are. But it happened. So now I think he's hot. I don't know why. I can't explain it. Yeah, I'm worried I might be coming around on it as well. Not that the character is becoming better with their choices. But I think that he's just so talented that I might be slipping.

Yeah. I might be slipping from him. Yeah, at first you're like he's got beady little eyes. And then you're like, ooh, he's got beady little eyes. Beattie little eyes. I think I might like it. Yes, exactly. I knew you were going to understand how I found everything.

I'm here for you, man. I get it. Thank you. It's confusing. I do want to say that I did have another great experience with, again, if we could just continue making concert films, that would be awesome for me. I know that all of the publishing homes, they listen to me and they're like, what is Jackie need? What does Jackie need us to focus on?

And if it could be concert films continuing on forward, I don't know. would enjoy it. I went to go see Ghost right here right now. But it has nothing to do with that song. One of Jeff's favorite bands is Ghost and it is also one of Henry and Natalie's favorite bands

and the three of them have gone to see many shows and every time I haven't been able to go. So Jeff got us tickets to go see the Ghost concert film that is almost three hours long that was at the AMC. And I tell you, nothing

quite like getting a big old, ooh, big old bottle of popcorn, is what I'm saying. And just snacking down, cheebing up hard, middle of the day on a Saturday and watching a concert in the middle of the day. Is that what you were seeing

when Harry was seeing Garfield? Yes, that is when I was seeing when Harry was seeing Garfield. And I did, I mean, I knew that he wasn't going to go see the ghost show, not to assume. Imagine, imagine if you're gone into the ghost. Oh my God, I would love it.

I do want to say, if you're not familiar with ghosts, check them out. They are a lot of fun. It is fun, big, Satanist, ridiculous vibes. And Papa Emeritus is this person that tried to hide his identity for a long time. This band has been a band for like 20 years. They have like big, fun, ridiculous, pyrotechnic costume shows. And it was so fun to watch. and especially when you don't have to, like,

sit in an uncomfortable seat with a bunch of people all around you. I'm so glad you had fun. I know you were really looking forward to it, or at least you were. Yeah, I think we were. I know it's not your favorite. I think it's getting people to the theater, too. I think we need that right now. So shoutouts, shoutouts for sure to that, as well as Inside Out too,

breaking records. They need to keep me away from the theater. Oh, yeah, Inside Out, too, which, oh, great. I'm just glad it broke records and stuff, we need it because it's been a weird summer for movie releases and popularity. Well, don't worry. Something's going to come and save the summer soon. And that movie is Twisters.

I am so excited about the movie Twisters coming out. So excited to the point that I did encourage my brother to host a Twister and gravy night where we made a bunch of meat sauce. And then we watched Twister in the backyard. Yeah. And Twister, I, you know, we were with people. they were watching Quister that hadn't seen it since it first came out and they're like Twister

and then they watched Twister again and every single one of them was like I forgot how great of a fucking movie Twister is. Thank you very much. Okay, it's not winning any Academy Awards. You're not there for the Academy Awards. You're there for Helen Hunt.

Ooh, do you want a kiss her? Do you want a beer? You're there for Bill Pecks and ooh, do we want to kiss him? Do we want to be them? Maybe just issues for me. The answer is yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes. There you go.

Yeah, I'm down. I want to rewatch Twister. I'll do it. Rewatch Twister. It's so much fun. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You never see that.

All right. I was just going to quote Twister, but I don't need to quote this. Quote Twister. Quote Twister. You never seen it miss that house. There you go. And I think that about does it for talking TV.

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