Page 7 - Talkin' TV - Bitch of the Week

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:10 Withholding MJ and Jackie Talking TV And you know it's gonna get wacky Because everybody knows what everybody knows And everybody knows we're watching shows We're watching TV Withholding MJ and Jackie Oh my God we had to shove a new name into the song
Starting point is 00:00:32 MJ's with us now Yes and Target TV is released from the shackles of Patreon Well, it lay dormant. Like Buffy, it died and it has now come back to life in the first season. Spoiler alert, Holden, please, can we not with the Buffy spoilers? Just sprinkling them out. Apologies. Right at the top of talking TV.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I'm excited because this will be our opportunity to have a little bit more dialogue if we want around our Buffy watch along because, you know, usually we watch it, we talk over it, we end it, we go, bye! And then we turned off and then thoughts invade, you know, and you're like, oh, what does Angel's Dick look like? You know what I mean? That's what I was thinking. That kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Does it have tentacles? And I am praying. It does. And you know I don't pray lightly. So this is a, I think it looks. This is a show that used to be behind the Patreon paywall. And now it is in your main feed. And you might be wondering what on earth?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Why are you here? And we just are here. You don't need to ask those hard questions. You can just let it wash over you. I don't have an answer. Also, yeah, it is named Talking TV. So if you can't figure it out, I mean, we're here to talk about our TV watch-ins because we do a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And there's a lot of television that we all watch in secret. There's a lot of secrets that happen on our screens. And I want to talk about these secrets over on Talkin' TV. Because you all know I love to watch my polygamy shows, my polyamory shows, and I've got nowhere to yell about it. And what a beautiful forum where MJ and Holden are both trapped, like little rats inside of a cage. And they have to hear what I say about every sister wife I want to talk about. And this will, of course, Patokin TV will have ebbs and flows, right, where there will be times
Starting point is 00:02:17 where like when Love is Blind is on, we will probably just exclusively talk about Love is Blind here, which we also spend a lot of time doing on like the leftovers. Also, perfect match is coming up. I'm looking to see when it starts. So when there's like a... It starts soon, dude. So soon. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. So like... Which I was saying this to Holden, it was ridiculous. I was like, oh, perfect match season two is coming out. I didn't even watch Perfect Mac season one. And then I went to go put it on. I was like, I totally
Starting point is 00:02:44 watched this. And that is how sad, how much reality television I consumed. And I'm like, which one is this one? And then I put it on. Like, oh yeah, big lips is with this guy. And then, oh, yeah, yeah. I too totally forgot about Perfect Match, but really quickly remembered it
Starting point is 00:03:00 as soon as we put it back on. Perfect Match is like the Netflix reality show All-Stars. It's like the Super smash bros of Netflix reality dating shows where they take all the horny people from all the different various shows, do what to handle, love is blind, they put them all together to try to make them fall in second love. And it's real stupid. And it's pretty forgettable, but we will watch it.
Starting point is 00:03:22 The Circle also coming out with the new season very soon, which I was just thinking about the Circle. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, there is a couple from the Circle that is like Netflix's most successful couple more successful and cute to me than any of the love is blind couples. And they get no heralds, they get no parade. Whoa, whoa, what about big cowboy and his big, thick goddess that just had a baby? I can't remember the name Brendan and she was kind of a bitch, but I loved her. Oh, did she have her baby? She just had the baby. Oh, good for them. Yeah, no, that's fine. But I'm talking
Starting point is 00:03:58 about the guy who pretended to be his Italian mother. I think his name is John. And the girl, the girl who was like a receptionist for a sex therapist office and kind of pretended to also be a sex therapist herself, just kind of pretended to have a lot of expertise about sex therapy. And I was like, pretty sure you are an office worker, but I love your enthusiasm for talking about sex. And they, like, found each other on the circle and they are like the cutest couple on earth. So good things can come from the circle. Still together. Still together. Wow. Good for them. I love that. I love that. Well, that was a look at things. to come. Who wants to start this conversation off with things we're watching now? Oh, I guess it depends on which avenue you want to go down. I've got quite a few different avenues. Okay, how about, how about this? How about something we're all maybe watching if MJ caught an episode last night? How about Physical 100 season two? Why don't we start there? Let's talk about Physical 100. Oh, I can discuss. I love this show. MJ, were you able to sneak in an episode? I was able to start, but I really good.
Starting point is 00:05:04 The only problem is it's a lot of introductions of strong people to start. Yeah, I'm still into like introduction montages of strong people, but I want to listen to you guys talk about it. I'm very, I'm already extremely into it just from the opening montage. So it's Korean people and they are strong. And there's 100 of them. It is 100 in the top physical shape and they are competing in different tasks. Summer K-pop stars, but for the most part,
Starting point is 00:05:35 they're people in top. But at the same time, they are very strong when it comes to, like, dancing and stamina. But it's different kinds of strengths. But also, look at the huge dudes that are very strong, but it's like, yeah, they're not going to be able to run on the manual treadmill for as far as other people are going to be able to run on the middle treadmill.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Or, like, bend down and grab the ball because their bodies are so rigid with steroid muscles that they like cannot be anything other than prone with their arms like fully out like a bird. Yes, but I talked about this a lot the last time I watched Physical 100 because I was, I became very quickly obsessed with this show. It really sucks you in. Also had a very fun conversation with Henry and Natalie about it because they started talking like this. And they were like, they were making jokes about because they watch it with the dubbed version.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And I don't watch the dubbed version. And apparently it's very fun to watch the dubbed version. But I don't want the dumb. I like how serious it is. I don't want it to be dumb. It's so, it's so stupid, but I'm such a tired fucking parent that I have to watch the dubs. I'm literally like, I'm on 10 milligrams of edible. It is 10 p.m.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I could barely keep my eyes open. And I just need to lay back and have these, this really bad dumb wash over me. Oh, wow. But no, no, no, and the funniest is that I think production hates some of them, because some of them, I can tell they don't have this kind of voice, and the voice is like, oh, I had a really fun time with that workout. It was, hey, I'm like, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's the voice you chose for this guy.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I know this guy doesn't sound like that. I'm like, oh, jimpy cheese, I can't wait to do the workout. They, like, purposely, I think, picked shitty voices for some of them, and that makes me laugh a lot. I think it does add some fun, it adds a fun spice to it. Sure. I do think that MJ, you are going to fall in love with like the different, like, you just root for them and you love how much they also respect each other and respect each other's strengths. So there's so many times when they're just happy to just be like competing against this bigger name in like jujitsu or competing against this MMA fighter. And like it's all about respecting each other.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And there's just no way. I think one of my favorite parts about watching the show is there's no way they could ever properly do it in America. I was going to say. Americans are just not like this. It seems inherently not American in terms of the spirit of collaboration and the niceness. Although fierce competition, but out of respect. And it is in such a way that makes me love to watch them compete. It's very great British baking show in that sense.
Starting point is 00:08:29 but the Korean strong person version, right? Like, absolutely. I totally agree with that. They always hug after, like, they just, like, beat their shit out of each other and then they're hugging right after. You know, it's like, it's just, I, MJ, you're going to fall in love with this.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, like, somebody would get shot in the American world. Like, somebody would literally get shot because of a disagreement or, you know what you mean? It would be like, it would go that way. That's like the show I'm watching, which is mean girl murders, which is about high school girls who killed each other. Oh, I want to hear about that.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Well, just to wrap up physical 100, just to give you a taste, like the first one, it's all manual treadmills. And you have to get the most distance you can over a 10 minute run, seven minute run, and five minute run. And they, like, wiggle it down. It's real, that's immediately, it's so intense. But have you made it into the labyrinth yet, Jackie? But also, yeah, we're, oh, we're almost done. Yeah, yeah. The labyrinth is great.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It gets, I feel like the production about you gets crazier and crazier as it goes, the labyrinth is like, they have to run through these labyrinth and grab these, like, bags and, like, take them to these. weight machines that are all around. It's all lit up and crazy. Like, the Hidden Temple. MJ, watch the first season first. I think you should watch the first. You don't need to.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I just think that you will, because watching how the games change into the second season, I think is very interesting of like, oh, I see why they would change these, like why they would make it. It's all completely different, but very different kind of challenges.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So start those introductions over again. Is what Jackie. say. It's just, it's funny because as I was started to watch it, I was like, I really don't watch shows like this but of course, like, I loved American Gladiators as a young person. I loved Guts, which was the
Starting point is 00:10:11 Nickelodeon version of American Gladiators. You know, I do like those kind of physical adventure shows, so I think I will love it. It's the real version of that. Like, people, like, you look at a person, you're like, there's no way they're going to be able to do this. And then you just watch them in brute strength
Starting point is 00:10:27 just be like, and they do it. And you're just like, wow, the human body can be so strong. Like I really, and maybe it's because I watch it very hard, okay? But I think about how strong the human body can be. Oh, man. I went on a little mental spiral this morning because I got a little bit of high cholesterol and I was like, I got to start working out.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And I was like, maybe I should join CrossFit. And I was like, I would hate CrossFit? And then I was like, or would I? People seem to really like it. And so maybe I'll become like a fitness game. I think so. Well, MJ, I want to keep you on the podium here with what's this mean girl murders? I kept seeing that on Netflix and being like, surely that's a dumb show that's stupid.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Is it good? It is a dumb show that's stupid. No, it's bad. No, it's a dumb show that is stupid. I've got the poison where I want to watch a true crime murder show while I fall asleep. I know others out there have it too. It's very jarring to somebody like my husband who does. doesn't want to fall asleep to like the descriptions of how many times someone was stabbed.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And I don't know why I want to do that. I'm literally a prison abolitionist, but I'm who's on a true crime network. I love that type of really poorly done true crime documentary. And mean, I don't know if it's poorly done. It's fascinating. It's interesting. It's all about like mostly early 2000s and aughts murder. Like most of the people talking are now people our age who experienced high school drama that escalated to murder. So it's like an anthology series of true crime stories almost? It's like every episode will be like in this episode, this bitch from 2003 killed this other bitch, you know, and it's just, it's a ghost of the week.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yes, it is a ghost of the week, but it's like a, it's a bitch of the week really. And it's, I mean, it is, the reason I'm saying it's bad is because- I love bitch of the week. Now you're selling me on it. I need bitch of the week. That's great. The reason I'm saying it's bad is because, I do think that it's like probably pretty bad to as much agency to literal children doing crimes.
Starting point is 00:12:33 This is like about murders in high school. So like obviously something has gone wrong and it probably shouldn't be turned into entertainment. And usually it's like a fight that like someone had a knife. It's not, we're not talking about Jeffrey Dahmer over here, like calculated murderers. It's just like when shit went wrong in high school should be the actual name of the show. Oh, okay. So it might be, I think it's a little bit, it's on the, I feel like there's, in the world of true crime, there's like smart true crime. There's like true crime that will offer you like a new way of thinking about things, which is I think what this network really likes.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And then there's also the true crime that's just like, we are literally just taking a individual tragedy and making it into a news magazine story. And that's what I would put this show in that second category. But if that's what you like, it is about mean, that girls murdering each other. I love to that it's trying to capitalize on the newly found like mean girls hype because of the musical. 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And I guess I haven't considered watching it. I was like, oh, more mean girls because I just rewatched the OG mean girls and then watched the musical like a few days later. So I kind of, I was kind of in that headspace. I was like, no, no, no, that's how they get you. This is not that. This is totally not that. This is totally something different.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It just has the phrase mean girls in it. It is like an SEO optimization in show title form. It's just like people are talking about mean girls. We'll call this show Mean Girl Murders. I'm sure it was like super not. I bet it was called Bitch of the Week up until the musical was announced. They should have called that bitch of the week. I would watch it if it's called Bitch of the Week.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I want to find out the bitch of the week. Hello, Ed Larson and Amber Nelson from the brighter side here to check in with you. See how you're doing. Is your day more disappointing than a gas station sandwich? Are you trying to put one foot? front of the other in a glue factory. Did you try to throw your air fryer in the bathtub, but nothing happened because you were too lazy to plug it in first?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Then the brighter side podcast is for you. Oh yeah! Each week we take nasty, dukey, stupid, dumb. Stinky, no good, doo-do factory. Caca-like topics and try to find the brighter side. Hey, Amber, what's the brighter side of waking up chained to a bed in Russia? At least they have free health care. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So start your weekend off right every Friday with the brighter side on the last podcast network. You beautiful babies. Well, speaking of a bitch of the week, let's get it over with. I have pioneered forward and I have done the work you guys don't have to do now. I watched the surprise bonus. Wow. Thank you guys. Bonus episode of Kauai.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Quiet on sex. Yeah, I don't even know why you did it. I was not planning on watching the extra episode of Quiet on set. No, I'm good. I've figured it out. I know what's happening. You've learned what you need to know and you need to know no more. Yeah, as MJ said, though, I feel like it's just that true crime loop.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Also, I'm a completionist. I can't, like, have that episode five sitting there staring at me every time I go on to mocks to watch something. And I know I can manually delete it from the. website browser, but still, okay? No, it was really, it was honestly really interesting. There were a couple of insights. I feel like, this is the good thing about it.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You can gleam the insights from like a listicle in a day. All of the headlines that have come out about absolutely everyone's feelings about it. Well, well, and then now there are like a couple of new revelations. I should have written them down. I think one of the biggest ones is like they play that Boy Meets World. recording of them talking about how, like, they made a huge mistake. Excuse me, from the pod. It's called Pod meets World.
Starting point is 00:16:34 It's Pod meets world. It's Pah! Well, that title, the name of that pod. So bad, yeah. Great son me. One of, you know, the big kind of revelations in the thing or one of the kind of big sticky, sad moments in the episode or in the series was when Drake Bell talks about, like, walking into court and seeing all these people on the
Starting point is 00:16:52 perpetrator's side that were like in this awful guy's. corner and many of them were like co-stars of his and people he worked with and you know and then they went on the podcast the boy meets world guys and like talked about how much they regret that and all because they had signed like basically they had signed like a sentencing letter voicing their support for the person who abused to Drake Bell and then they were named ashton Kutcher kind of exactly same thing and but and similarly I think that they didn't think that those names would ever go public and they weren't public until this documentary. And so then I think that Writer Strong and Will Friedel,
Starting point is 00:17:29 aka Eric and Sean from Boy Meets World, had to be like, wow, that makes us look very bad, especially because we host a podcast, which is just trying to ride that 90s nostalgia wave talking about Boy Meets World episodes. You know, so like that's bad for their brand. You know, but one thing Drake Bell says in the episode five is no one has contacted me.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah. No one has. And I think that was in and that was and by the way he was like really Not like did not seem like he had a lot of like piss and venom towards these people But he was also really honest and he was like no no one has contacted me to Apologize or say anything you know what I mean? I think that that's crazy to make I was to make a podcast statement But not to reach out individually and and you know I will have to say at the same time, I think, you know, you have to factor in, but I don't see how this could be a thing,
Starting point is 00:18:29 but still, you do have to factor in the lawyer potentiality of being like, totally. Do not talk to anyone, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know what I mean? Like, just, I don't know what, how much. Maybe, but it's not like Will Friedel and Ryder Strong are getting sued. They're, they're just, it's just a PR thing for them, right? I might be wrong and maybe, right, of course, I don't know how, and I also listened to that episode and it is clear that they do feel awful and I don't I don't necessarily think that they
Starting point is 00:18:56 were adults when they signed the letter but they were kids when they worked with the perpetrator and so I don't even think that they're like villains in this scenario but I do feel like they smoke their truth I mean right like if they were not aware and it did not happen to them and and if it was their right if that is what really happened but we're never going to know if what they write is true right we will never know and you know I hope that like I can't even imagine being in a situation like that where it's like you're like oh I don't think anything bad happen to me or yeah I'll write this up and then years later all this shit comes out just being like oh fuck but it's it is but there must have been rumblings right
Starting point is 00:19:34 sure there must have been similar to the way that we had such a laugh about me lacunas and aston kutcher being like having to make an apology video and the saddest wall in their house yeah yeah that like it was like that I just feel like when you write again I don't hold really anything against those two Boy Meets World actors because they were very, very young and they were part of this industry. And I'm sure they did not have a lot of perspective when they signed that letter. But I feel like it's just that thing where you're like, oh, this thing that I did that I thought was not ever going to come back on me has come back on me. And if you're then going to try to make your, if you're going to make the apology on your podcast, but not make the apology directly to the person who you like directly had a hand. and where the harm was done. Yeah, it's a little telling. And I appreciated his, like, honesty about that stuff. And I can't cite specific examples, but I can only say, like,
Starting point is 00:20:31 the way Drake comes off in that interview is not antagonistic or, like, he even kind of sticks up, like, he sticks up for his co-star, Bell, or whatever. He, like, is he was, like, people were upset with him about his reaction. Drake and Josh. Yeah, Josh, or whatever his name is. Yeah, Bell, I don't know. Anyways, Drake Bell. Drake Bell.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's why I said it. It's early. It's fine. Cabi's still kicking in. But anyways, he was like stuck up for him. He seems to like be not like kind of trying to go after people in other words. And so that was interesting. And then it was the other, they bring the other actors back.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And I think the other interesting part of the whole thing was just like since then a interview with Dan Schneider has come out. And he's said a bunch of stuff on there. And they essentially just get to be like, he's so full of shit. Yeah. And like further explain how like, you know, because he's saying stuff like they all thought it was funny
Starting point is 00:21:29 and these kids wrote this stuff. And I'm just, you know what I mean? Or whatever. And he was like, yeah. Can't believe it on the kids. Good idea. Jesus Christ. When we're trying to please you and you're laughing the loudest at this stuff,
Starting point is 00:21:40 then yeah, it might make it seem like we're the ones like fueling it. But like we're just trying to make the guy laugh that's running the show that all of our jobs are on the line under. So, like, we have that pressure, you know, and stuff like that. But anyways, that's about it. But I just think it's weird now that even in our true crime, like, expose docu series, we have the reality style reunion show that we're used to with like love is blind, where now it's like we react to the social media discourse.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I mean, they're showing like TikToks, people are putting out stuff and talking about how. I think that's really weird. I can't even imagine it, like after, especially we started, we watched the truth versus Alex Jones. You know, if you want to, like, I don't want to have a talk back with Alex Jones afterwards, you know. Right, right. I don't need to hear any more from this piece of shit. And can I just say in watching the truth versus Alex Jones, I wasn't quite aware of everything that was going on in this huge lawsuit against Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I had heard, obviously, I knew that what was going on with it, but I didn't know. know all of the details of what he fucking did to these families. Yeah. And I, I had to like pause it multiple times just so I could scream. Like I just was like yelling. And I, I've never like in watching, I mean, I guess spoiler alert if you don't know what happened in the Alex Jones trial, which for those of you that are unaware, I'm sure you're familiar with Alex Jones Info Wars.
Starting point is 00:23:14 and I knew that there was a lawsuit from multiple of the Sandy Hook parents because for years he openly was saying that Sandy Hook was fake, that he was a hoax. He ruined the lives of all of these parents who lost their children and destroyed them. And now, which makes me very happy, I think it was, was it? $980 million he owes that. Like, it's something that is such ridiculous. And it made me, like, I was just like, is there actual justice? How very rarely do we see?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Even though what does that money do to these families? Right. What does it change? Like, what does it change? Because it's not like they can get all that money. Like, they have to wait their entire lives for this. Right. And I feel like Alex Jones built the house,
Starting point is 00:24:12 the conspiracy theory house that were all, the foundation of the house that now has many, many more stories to it. The larger implications are, yeah, are even worse. Yeah, it's so, it's so awful. And this has been bitch of the week. That's why I was like, if we're talking about upsetting things, yeah, I can't not bring. I wasn't going to bring up the truth versus Alex Jones just because, like, I've got really, it was a well-made documentary in the fact that, like, I didn't know a lot about it,
Starting point is 00:24:41 and now I do. And now I'm fucking pissed. What's it on? What's it on? Netflix. It's on Netflix. All right. Netflix.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It is. I, oh, man, I am mad. And I can't, I just want, I want his life to be destroyed every day when he wakes up. Well, in the opposite version of that, I was like, maybe I could enjoy some true crime. And I was like, a playing a video game. And I was like, maybe it's time to watch this house a hammer. And I started it and I immediately turned it off. I only watched the first hour.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I'm good. I didn't even start it. I was like, I just know what this is just going to be so not. That, right. I was talking before about the types of true crime. There's some true crime where even if it's well done, you're just like, I actually would just prefer to not know. And I started the Army Hammer one and I was like,
Starting point is 00:25:23 this is not fun. Well, especially in the Army Hammer one, people have come out that like that said that they weren't either going to be showed or things weren't going to be said. Oh, yeah. Also, there was some like not good consent things when it comes to production stuff. Which is amazing about it around a documentary that it has to do with that. Incredible stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:42 So, like, further hurt the victim. So it's just not. And that's why Jackie and I keep it to the TLC documentary universe, okay? Yes, let's get into it. We are talking about seeking sister wives. We unfortunately smothered season five just wrapped. I think it was season five. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:26:02 How did you feel? You've watched all seasons of smothered, crap. I have watched all the seasons of smothered. I started at your house and I couldn't stop and it consumes me. So how has it changed over time? Are we still, is it new characters every season? Do they bring people back? I mean, is it kind of like the 90-day universe?
Starting point is 00:26:21 I was going to, I'll ask the same question to Jackie about seeking sister wives because I just started it. But Smothered is, there is some moms and daughters who have been on like the entire time. Wow. And then sometimes you'll lose them and you'll, they'll disappear from your life and you'll wonder, I wonder how that mother-daughter duo is doing. And then you start following them on Instagram. and then all of a sudden you're following all these weirdos on Instagram and that's exactly what happened to be in the 90 day. I also do extreme sisters and I start following all the extreme sisters on Instagram
Starting point is 00:26:50 and they don't really even have that big a following. But their whole thing is just that they're identical twin sisters who they're identical twin sisters who married identical twin brothers and they have quaternary twins together and then no one really cares. They get like a thousand likes per post and it is a little sad for that. I think that they thought they'd get more famous by being identical twin sisters married to identical twin brothers.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Turns out very few people care. Yeah, it turns out us a lot. Diamond does. You see one post on the internet about it. You like it, you keep it moving. You don't need anything more. So what was I going to say? So what are some of your favorite characters from Smothered?
Starting point is 00:27:28 Are there any favorites? Yes. Yeah, what keeps you really coming back? Oh, my God. I really recommend Smothered. I wish everyone could see the huge smile on MJ's face. When they talk about smothered. Five seasons, so it's like I'm so behind, or should I just jump to season five?
Starting point is 00:27:45 Like, what do you think? Oh, there's really, you can't go wrong. There's, there's, the thing about it is, unfortunately, much of it is very toxic. And you, and there are some relationships where you, like, really feel bad for the daughters, because you're like, oh, you just have, like, a narcissistic mother who, like, forced you to share your, like, you take on all of her feelings for your entire life ever since you. you're a child. She told you that you were all of her hopes and dreams,
Starting point is 00:28:12 and now you feel like you can't do anything else. And so sometimes it's a bit of a bum out. But other times, there's this mom and daughter from Chicago, and they are just fun, loving gals. They love to decorate for the holidays. Hell yeah. They go all out for every holiday. They love to throw parties.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Do they live together, or do they live in like a cul-de-sac? They live four houses down from each other in a cul-de-sac. This is what I'm saying. It's either cul-de-sac or they're living together in a mother-daughter unit. Yes, yes. And Jackie will love it. And yeah, honestly, four houses apart is, I think, the biggest boundary that any of the mother-daughters have. Surprising. Surprising. Yes. And the husband is like a Chicago Italian pizza maker. And he's always like, what's your mother-in-law doing in my house? Get around in my house. It's just, it's a delight. I keep coming back just for them. The rest of it, again, is a little concerning. But if you are a parent, it will tell you how not to parent your children. And if you're a child of parents, it might make you a little grateful for your own parents. Yeah, it's not about how to not parent.
Starting point is 00:29:13 If you're a parent, you can watch that and feel less shit about how you run things in your house. Yeah, you're like, at least I don't force my children to live in my exact image and tell them they are miniature versions of me. Oh my God. And they have to accomplish everything I couldn't. Yeah. Yeah, that's like full glad my mother died. They should all have to read. I'm glad my mom died.
Starting point is 00:29:37 All of them. All of them. of those. I love it. But I did start seeking sister wives last night on Jackie's recommendation. And I can't believe these people want to go on television. Guys, didn't you see what happened to the first fucking polygamous family that went on television? Just a reminder for everyone in case you forgot. And you're like seeking sister wives that sounds different than sister wives. And the answer is it is because on seeking sister wives, they are families that don't necessarily choose being plagues because of religion.
Starting point is 00:30:11 This is outside of religious-based choices. Some of them are, but it is, I find, which I'm the one that watches all these plague shows, and I like to watch Polly shows as well, but oftentimes the plague shows are usually Mormon relationships. And this is showing the world of polygamy outside of the Mormon faith. and that is when it rattles my brain so much more. Yeah, when they're just doing it because this guy is horny and he wants four wives and the four wives are like, yeah, I'm down. I'm just so excited for you to watch the journey.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So we are currently right now, season five is currently coming out. I am caught up. I have watched all five seasons. It has been mostly the same couples, some new ones sprinkled in. I can't wait for you to get to know Danielle and Garrick because the two of them, oh, Lordy M.J. The two of them, and he's just like, God's telling me, I have to get these hot Hispanic wives.
Starting point is 00:31:21 God's telling me, I've been married for 20 years, but God is now telling me, I have to have these wives. And so he's just dogging, dog in to be banging literally anyone that is not his annoying and fuck wife. Because his wife, I want to put her in the
Starting point is 00:31:41 ground. Because she's just like, Derek says that God wants us to have another wife and well it makes me sad. But you know I guess sister is going to join. And so they call each other's sister. Sister is going to
Starting point is 00:31:57 join the family. I just got an actual chill in my body. And like, it's just so, I, I watch this show alone. I, this is the first time I've ever spoken about this show. I can't wait, MJ, for you to go on this journey with me. I need you to go on the journey with me. I will. One of the couples, all of them, they all decide they sleep in one bed.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah, I saw that couple. And then they brought in, and I, and like, he's a stay at home dad. And the three of them were. Yes. And he, and they're like, we just love to be able to give. him the opportunity to just like read and get to know himself and work on himself. And I was just like, are you fucking kidding? Yeah. Yeah, there's three wives. They only have one kids so far. I'm sure they're going to have more. But they only have one kid. And yeah, he's like, and not obviously
Starting point is 00:32:48 somebody needs to stay home, no matter how many kids there are. If there's any, if there's more than zero kids, somebody's got to either stay home or have a child care situation. But it is weird that he's like, I need all these wives to build a family. And I don't like, to work. And luckily my wives all love to work. So I'm like, you got three wives to bang. You got only one kid to take care of, which is, again, it's not nothing, but it's not like, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:11 the sister wives, I'm used to 30 kids usually. And he just doesn't have to work because he doesn't want to do. He doesn't want to. Yeah. I mean, I get that. I don't want to either. Yeah, I don't want to either. But, you know, I don't have three wives. I am, I yell towards this
Starting point is 00:33:29 show alone, Stone, in the middle of the night and I'm just excited and for anyone that if you're like I've also been watching seeking sister wives for five years write it you know in the comments let me know let me know if you also want to slap Garrick in the face and and I don't mean any like being a stay at home parent is absolutely a job it is a very hard job I think there might be working parents who would say it's harder than being a
Starting point is 00:33:54 working parent and so and stay at being a stay at home dad cool I'd rather just have a regular job by the way than be a state home parent can I just say It's like, it's hard. There is something about this man who is just like, I want, there's just something about when you go out of the kind of the traditional family structure where you're like, I actually want three wives and I actually want them to do all the work and I want to do none of the work. And I just want to kind of benefit from these three women all working and me not.
Starting point is 00:34:21 There's just something there where it seems like, oh, you've gamed the system. It just feels a little different than in a partnership where you're like, okay, you work and I'll stay home and watch the kid. It's just like, no, all three of you work, I don't need a job. Yeah. Yeah. And there's other things that I don't want to spoil for you, but there are very frustrating things that happen in this show. And I think you're going to like it.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I know I'm going to like it. I already like it. There's something about the TLC universe. And also, I think that Max does a little bit of like rising tide lifts all boats situation for the document. It has so many stupid, bad TLC style or ID discovery style. documentaries on there, but because it has the veneer of HBO, you're like, ah, this couldn't be that bad.
Starting point is 00:35:05 But it can. But it can. Because TLC, oh, it slipped right into that hole of Max and now it just sits there dripping among its stalagmites and the lagmites and stalag poit. Jackie, do you have anything else you want to talk about? We're getting near to the end here.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I've got like more things to talk about, but I'm not going to, I won't go down that road. All right, let's round Robin. Go. see Immaculate if you have the chance to. I can't believe Immaculate was as good as it was. I made Japes that I wanted to go see it because I wanted to, I was like, Sidney, Sweeney as a nun, but you're not even going to see the knockers. It is a very good horror movie. I was very surprised at how much, I mean, don't worry, MJ, you see them knockers. You really see the knockers, but it's always like, oh, she's got the white on and like she's in a bath.
Starting point is 00:35:59 and she gets out of the, but you know, it's like, right, you see your knops. We have the prototype of the sexy nun for a reason. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:04 you got the knockers in there. You got the knockers in there. You get the knocks. But she, but it's surprisingly a very good movie. And, um, Monkey Man,
Starting point is 00:36:13 I went to go see. And I was so fucking excited to see Monkey Man, which is the Dev Patel, uh, movie directed by Dev Patel. It was getting, like, it's got such amazing buzz.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And it was a good action movie. It was a good, fun, dumb action movie that I went into it. I thought it was going to be like, yeah, I thought it was going to be like seeing John Wick for the first time. Like I thought it was going to be like, fuck that movie.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And while he did a very good job, and I don't want everyone to be like screaming at me through their earbuds right now, if you think about it, the story doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. But again, if you're going into it as a fun, dumb action movie, that doesn't make sense. That's fine. You don't need it to make sense.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I just thought it was going to be like a prestige movie. You know what I mean? And you know when you go into it thinking it's going to be one thing? So you get like, I'm disproportionately disappointed just because I thought it was going to be. Like I thought it was going to be blown away. That makes sense. But I did enjoy it. It's not like a waste of your time by any means.
Starting point is 00:37:18 It's good. Okay. But it's funny though sometimes when stuff gets so hyped up and you're like, that was just solid. Yeah. And that's what it was. Right. But it's fun that Immaculate seemed like whatever. and it was great.
Starting point is 00:37:29 So you get too into the spectrum. And then it was great. So we had just had the immaculate experience with then seeing Monkey Man. I think it also made it that much more. I was like, man, I thought this. I thought I was going to be like, right, right.
Starting point is 00:37:41 You know, after seeing this movie. Also, Invincible just wrapped up. Season 2? The second season. Hell yeah. And I guess I need to start reading Invincible. The comic is so good. It's like one of the best comics I've read.
Starting point is 00:37:55 It's great. But also, like, you can't go wrong. Watching Jeff watch me not knowing anything about it. And it's one of Jeff's favorite graphic novels. So him watching my mind continually get blown, it's definitely one of those shows. He's just like loving watching because he's like, you don't even fucking know.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah. And I'm like, that's insane. And it's a show where it's, yeah, every time you think you know what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah, it's great for that. It's so good. Hell yeah. Sorry, that's just round.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Round April quick tips. I love the round robin. All right, cool. We'll start with you next week, Jackie, so you could try to get some more wrecks in there. No, I just watch more. No, I want your guys' wrecks because you guys take the time. And so I want to know what you guys are watching
Starting point is 00:38:40 because you guys have such a finite amount of time to watch things. I got to make it good. A quick podcast recommendation, because I'm watching it on YouTube, and it's fun that way, is the handsome podcast with Tignitaro, Fortune Feimster, and the third person is less of a household. May Martin. May Martin. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And Lexi loves it, and it makes so much sense because it's the most lesbian-ass thing on the planet. And so, of course, this is like Lexi's favorite podcast, but she was like, you should throw it on because I was getting bored with my rotation of YouTube podcast while I play video games, and I really, really enjoyed it. And I love Fortune especially, like so much. She's the best. All right, that's it.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So we sing the song and call it a day? Let's do it. We're talking TV with holding MJ and Jackie talking TV. And you know it's going to get wacky because everybody knows what everyone knows. Everybody knows we're watching shows. We're talking TV with holding MJ and Jackie. I will learn the song soon. Bye everybody.
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