Page 7 - Talkin' TV - Goon Sesh Weekend

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

This week on Talkin' TV Holden's been goonin' classic dad movies in his loneliness, Jackie's been feelin' like the baby in Eraserhead as she cries to the Content Gods for the blessing bestowed upon all and this includes starting down that slippery slope of Desperate housewives with season 1 and the 20+ year difference is JARRING, while MJ hasn't been alone in 168 hours but they did get to enjoy a P7 classic because Love Is Blind IS BACK! including all the bad men anyone could ask for (even after the production company was warned by many), everyone agrees they want to see 20's Jackie on Bad Girls Club, Sad Dad Time involves the major hits from the past year including Zone Of Interest (highly suggested to watch at this moment in time), Y2K, plus partials of Alien Romulus and Venom, Jackie and Geoff are blasting through I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson, there's a Tom Greenissance over on Amazon Prime that has reenforced Jackie's crush, White Lotus season 3; ep 1 has dropped, and SO MUCH MORE! Love is Blind Season 8 - NetflixReal Housewives of New York Seasons 1 and 2 - PeacockZone Of Interest - MaxY2K - Amazon PrimeHeart Eyes - IN THE THEATAHHHHHAlien: Romulus - HuluI Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson - NetflixThis is the Tom Green Documentary - Amazon PrimeWhite Lotus Season 3 - Max Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

with MJ Holden and Jackie talking TV And you know it's got to get wacky Everybody knows what everybody knows Talking TV With MJ Holden and Jackie What what it is What what what it is Hell yeah

Man we are just over here We're just sup sup supin Because this is the time That they know that we need more We're over here were mulein for more milk content gods. Give us what we crave. And they said yine for yon sins.

Yoss receive more content. So you're welcome, everybody. And I'm excited to hear, I'm assuming, Holden, you had a whole goon session weekend. So I'm assuming you're full up a goosh over here. Yeah, so I guess all my stuff is all. just porn videos I saw, but I saw, so I saw this really fun horny nurse. No, we don't need it.

We don't need it. There was this guy, he was like, I'm lost in the horror store, you know what I mean? Which was like, interesting one. Horse store one. Horse store two. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There are many sequels.

And how are you supposed to find out? How he gets to the horror store. Yeah. And how the horrors become the whores, but only after they've turned 18, yes. Don't get to horse store 14. Horse Store. That one really fucked me up, really gave me some bad dreams. But great for some. And I'm actually glad that they included that like they widened their spectrum. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now I'm on the spectrum. So thank you horse store. Thank you horse store. But no, no, no. I did actually also get to

watch probably a bit more than I normally get to with not having yon child at home. You know, so that's been nice. I am the opposite. I have not been alone in, I don't know, know how many hours are in seven days, but it has been zero many hours. Zero alone time. My life has been the opposite where my husband's been very busy and the only way I can stop the screaming from inside of my brain is to just put on my shows and then I stop just going like I'm the baby and eraser head. And that's how I've been feeling recently. And so no one knows, like, is she a lamb? Is she a girl? And I don't even know at this point. Ah, ah! Ah! Do you want me to just continue making that sound throughout the rest of the episode?

Yeah. Yeah. What I'm saying is I've watched a lot as well. So don't worry. We've got plenty of content to discuss. And I did watch a classic. I have such a slew of dad movies. Like, everything is like, this is sad alone dad stuff. You, you, at one point, by the way, I had my bro bras over. and you best believe that we got Tony Hawk's Pro Skater up and running him. We're literally passing the controller around smoking. I was wondering why you didn't invite me, but now it makes a lot more sense. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I knew Jeff was extremely busy over the weekend.

So I didn't want to be like, hey, fun is happening that you can't enjoy. I appreciate that. So I didn't hit them up either and hope that's okay. I try to not hit people up if I know for a fact that they're deeply uninterested in what we're doing No, he would have been very interested. Or chap knowing if he's super, like I hate hitting people up knowing they're too busy so that they can just be like, I can't, I can't, I've got to work. So I didn't text you guys.

But anyways, yeah, we were doing that. But what classic filmic experience did you appreciate MJ? Oh, no, I wouldn't call it a classic dad moment? No, I wouldn't call it a filmic experience. It was only classic for talking TV and page seven because, of course, it is Valentine's Day. I guess. So love is blind is back. Yes, it certainly is. And man, we are going to be discussing it. Now, I'm assuming, yeah, I had the opposite situation. Yeah. So I hopefully I will be starting it in bed tonight with my beloved, my betrothed. Oh, you have to wait for your life. Yeah. I would so would have watched that. Yeah. You know, I, you know, I absolutely would have binged that alone, sad dad style. But yeah, I had to hold off. I go back. I've seen probably.

of the, I think there's six seasons and I've seen, I think, four of them with my husband. There are eight seasons, by the way. Are there eight seasons? There's one I totally missed. Once they started doing it twice a year, that first time, that were the second time of a year, I was like, you know what, I'm good? But now I'm like, what was I thinking?

I'm always happier when I'm watching Love is Blind. And I, I enjoy watching it with my husband. I don't think he enjoys watching it, but he will. But I, so I got the best of both worlds, which is that I started it alone. And then, And I was like later that night when he was back at the hotel, I was like, do you want to watch Love is Blind?

And he was like, not really. I was like, well, that's what I want to watch. So we watched it together. That's right. We'll do a little half with a husband, half with not. But I am excited to talk about it. But we don't have to start there because you guys have also watched better TV probably than Love is. What are you talking about?

The dropping of the first three episodes is huge. Yeah, no, it is good. Give us a taste. What are we, how are we feeling about the, our meeting the new? Can I just say out the gate? A lot of people, it is so interesting the temperature online about these first three episodes because it is either people being like, snore, I'm asleep. Who gives a shit? It's either that or it is reading about how in real life, how horrible most of the men on this particular season are. Apparently in real life, they are no good. And multiple people have reached out. two Netflix before, even when they were just shooting this being like, these guys are bad. They are like one dude in particular is genuinely very bad. Well, there's, I was, I literally drafted a text message to you get to send to you guys and

then I think I got interrupted that was the text message was going to be they are once again casting men's rights activists. Yes. On love is blind. They have two men. Both of them are like, one of them is like I've never had a girlfriend before and I have certain ideas about what a girl should look like and I'm on this show to try to break

that happen and I'm like sorry buddy that's not what the show is for and then the other person is just like a straight and that same guy the guy who is the I have certain ideas about what a woman should look like he's also like a actual pickup artist he starts every meeting by insulting the woman

like I don't know if he's read the game but it obviously he hasn't cited the game but he obviously is that he's starting every every meeting like he has a meeting he's opening sets He's nagging. He says, how old are you? And she says 30, and he said, oh, so you're no longer attractive.

Ugh. And at first, she's like, she's like, I'm going to leave. And then he fucking, and then she doesn't. Charmed, charm. He charms her. It's so disturbing to watch. You're going to start a date with me like that by not going to continue the conversation. And then the other guy is like somehow even worse.

The other, I'm trying to remember. You can't tell them apart. The guy who used to be. ugly. The rest of the men all I'm, I, they look, talk about like middle aged man white blindness. I can't tell them. There's six out. There's six. Yes. I think I only

watch the first three. I think they just recently dropped the first three. Yeah, because there were only three. There were only three. But yeah, then there's the other guy is a guy who used to be ugly and by his own description. Yeah, he said he used to got like beaten up like the one that used to get picked on. But it's really scary. It's like the scary like it's like what that.

guy. Not that every guy who had that turns into a bad guy. Many of those guys turn into wonderful men. I'm great. I'm a wonderful man. You're great. But he's not okay. He is like I have like some revenge to do basically. He's like women. Oh, I know what women. It's like also again, classic insult stuff. I know what women do to ugly men and now I want to like punish them. It's very scary. And the most unfortunate thing about them having these two awful men is that this season is set in Minnesota. I know because there's the home of wonderful people. There's doofy, daffy, Joey.

I love Joey. You know I immediately fell in love with Joey. You know I did. He's the most Minnesota guy. I got three sisters. I love women. He loves to respect women. It's Minneapolis.

Yes. I love Minneapolis. We both, we all three, you two fell in love with Minneapolis when we were there. Yeah, I really like Minneapolis. And not that like everyone in Minnesota is nice, right? But it is just like a lovely, Minneapolis is a, incredible city. There's a vibe.

Minnesota is a lovely state. Tim Walls, right? Yes. There is just, like, Tim Walls is the ultimate Minnesota man. And so the fact

that they cast these two fucking nightmare men. That's why I thought there was going to be more joys. There should be more joys. But I was like,

in my brain, we're talking Minnesota. Give me more joys. I thought that we're going to be a bunch more big, like, I just want like a big, dumb, dopey dog. It doesn't have to be dumb.

That's, that's me. No, a man who goes, Big phone, silly. A man who goes ice fishing on the weekends and can like fix whatever in your house. I'll make him seven sandwiches for him to go out ice fishing. I hope he has a great time all day.

I'm going to make sure he's got an extra coat. I'm going to make sure he's got his long johns on. Nobody's talking about hot dish or anything. I know it's not Minnesota enough. The only thing that's Minnesota is when they're talking about where everyone's from. And Joey. Joey is so like if you want to know what I'm. real accent is. It's jolly. Oh my God. He is so fucking cute. I love his. I would melt for that

accent. And that's sad thing to admit. I'm going to say. He's also so instructive in what it's like to be a Midwesterner because he very tragically lost a sibling. And as he talks about it, it's like so how Midwesterners talk about hard things. He's like, so I have three sisters. I got an older and a younger. And then I do have one who passed. So we. Don't have to get into it now, but, you know, we'll get into it later. The ultimate Minnesota expression of how you confront difficult feelings. Yeah, like it's not toxic, but it's not direct. I just hope that that, what's her name, Monica, I think is her name?

Monica, she looks really nice, but I'm like, you better not break his heart. But this is, of course, where I am after episode three. So where am I going to be? Lord knows, maybe it's like, and then he loves to skin the women before he rolls around in their guts, you know, like, is that what we're going to find out? I don't know. I don't trust anybody anymore. Yeah. So I will watch it with a tentative heart. Yeah. Yeah. No, one of the women on there is like too normal and nice where, again, I'm just like casting people. What were you thinking? Like, this woman is not ready for the bitchery that is about to come, you know? I'm worried for

these nice Midwestern women. I'm worried for them. Yeah. I think that it is like, like, don't you're going to get ripped apart. Oh, don't do it. Don't. Bad things are going to happen to these women, I think. And, yeah, these men have to be... Bad things are going to happen to these women. And we're going to watch every second of it.

I hate it. I hate that I need it. I hate that, like, I was just like, I could just fast forward through... You know the first three episodes, barely anything happens. Oh, but that's the best part. The pods are the best part. Yeah, you guys and seeing them all get together. I know.

I know. And now, but then it's... just like go ahead. It's all going to implode. Every time I'm like, maybe there'll be some couples that come out of it. Like I put your positivity in the trash, Jackie, when you're watching these things. I want hell. I want godlessness.

I don't want any love to happen. I want love to happen. Also they are. Warren, I want hell. Another text that I was about to send you guys is they are once again showing the contestants on Love is Blind eating because they are just like, we feed them. They need everybody to know. We do feed them.

They're not just drunk. They're so obviously eating now. Ever since that allegation came out there, just like, here's a big scene of them talking about how much food there is, how good the food is. That's why it makes so much sense that they leaked, quote unquote, like the information about the traders. Because in the traders, a lot of them always have a cup on them. So it was like, but they don't seem as like belligerent as the other shows. But apparently on the traders, they're only allowed one drink in evening. Wow.

And like, you know, they can go and drink more when they go back to their hotel, I imagine. But on set and all they're allowed is one alcoholic drink. That's wise. That makes sense. It makes sense. I mean, especially Love is Blind. We have just seen people drinking themselves to death on camera, you know. And so I do like to have a little bit of a limit.

Man, you're like, you're not going to like that conversation when you watch it later. You're not going to like that. But that's why, man, it was funny. I was watching an episode of it and Jeff had just come home and he's looking at it and he's like, you know, I don't want to say this to you

because I feel like, you know, you shouldn't say this to your wife but he's like, Jackie, you would kill one of these shows. It was like, oh, put me fucking in.

Everybody always remember, I was just about to bring a bad girls club where it's the opposite. Bad girls club is like, get them as drunk as possible and then see what happens. Like they need them to be drunk

to fight and fuck and whatever they're going to do. And everyone's always like, man, I wish Jackie, like in her 20s could be on this show. Oh my God. Jackie in her 20s. That's a different. That was like a reality way. I really should have gone back when I was such a like making horrific choices. You going up against voodoo, Judy, man. Like it was so funny. We watched for most of the watch long yesterday and then decided to switch to baggage near the end. And like, I just put the show on in someone in chat. It's like, yeah, I just needed a break from all the screaming. And I was like, you're right. Now that I think about it, we've literally just been listening to women scream at each child. other for two straight hours and I'm losing my mind and I didn't even think about it until I put something else on because it just became my normal.

It's what I understand. This is exactly what we were going through with Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Which is why I know that I'm waiting. I am going to start talking about New York soon. And the vast difference. But I didn't realize how much of my life was just screaming because I was watching Salt Lake City. Yeah. And they scream a lot.

You want to match their tone. You do. Because, I mean, that's really, like, the housewives is like just the aged up version of bad girls club. Absolutely. They have nothing better to do than to, like, go to events. Right. I forgot. They're business women.

They're all business women, yeah. No, it is. My mirror neurons are like, I want to dress really well and be mean to people. You know, like it does. I want to imitate them. In every conflict, there's at least one bitch. A huge bitch, a silly bitch. A little bitch.

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And I asked Kara, I was like, Kara, where should I start? Yeah. And this, I had asked her when I was already on episode three of season one. And I was like, Kara, where should I start? And she said, I would tell most people to start at season four, but I feel like you're the kind of bitch that wants to watch all the rises and falls. So start at season one. And I did. And what a.

Oh, my God, MJ. Yeah. I was slammed in the face by how, I think it's 2005. Oh. It is. It is 20 years ago. Wow. And this is also only the second iteration of the housewives.

So they are, none of them are Botoxed up. No, none of them are, like, going from SLC and then looking at these normal, weirdly, fairly natural faces. In fact, in the first episode, Ramona was like, I don't want to get all those fillers. Like, I'm not trying to look like a cartoon character. I want to look natural. I want to look beautiful. I keep my body tight. Like she, and she doesn't want any of that shit.

In fact, they look down on people that do that kind of shit. shit because they didn't and so now it's so insane though talk about the mirror effect or whatever you're going to call because i've been watching all this slc and i'm like i want to just i want jeff to come home and yeah i'm just talking i did because i've got so much better and i'm like i'm sorry jeff i was in a manic phase jeff i don't know what i did but now i'm watching housewise and i don't feel that way anymore well i don't feel the need to drink soda as much anymore i don't feel the need for filler anymore yeah i ripped through i am at the end of the second season of the Real Housewives of New York.

Whoa. It is it fun. To be there, there's only eight episodes in the first season and there's only like 15 episodes in the second season. Is it? My husband has been gone. So has mine, but I did not watch Real House. I will say real quick question.

So like with these shows, therefore I take it that like most of the cast stays on each season, I'm assuming sometimes people drop in and out. It's an ebb and flow. I did have to look up because I was so curious. I was like, who stays in which one? Because, like, obviously, you've heard about the big grates. You've heard about Luanne. You've heard about Bethany Frankel.

I didn't know how long they stay. So on Wikipedia, they show how long each one in what seasons they're a part of. So they come, they bop in and out, but there's mostly like the main ones that stay. And for like a while. Is it fun? Like, is it, is each location fun for? that location. Like, does it feel New Yorkie? Is it like Manhattan? Like, I get to live vicarious as a rich Manhattan bitch? Every season, they start with them in the Hamptons because they're all out in

Hamptons. So the first couple of two or three episodes are all of them shoved out in the Hamptons and half of them like hate the Hamptons and the other half are like, I mean, the Hamptons are where you have to be. And I was being triggered because I was a nanny for a family in the Hamptons every summer and I was triggered, triggered, triggered because I just remembered having to go back and forth on the fucking Jitney and just like they they busts out all their help to go with them out to the hampton. MJ, I'll love it. I'm sorry for you. I'm all, I'm just going to go ahead and say, I'm sorry for you. There are, I think, 17 seasons of. Yeah, what do we do? At least I was already up to date on season one and two of Salt Lake City, you know. I might need you to just jump into season

and I'll meet you there, Sailor. I think that you just start there. And I'm bringing up the rear. I'm coming, MJ. I'm coming, MJ. I'll tell you everything, MJ. Anything you need to know about the first three seasons, I'll tell you MJ.

Okay. All right. Because, yeah, I'm down. Sorry, Holden. I was so excited to tell MJ about this experience that I've been going through. I get it. I'm here for it. I'm so happy.

We have to do the Real Housewives Corner. Yeah. No, I'm so happy that we're... Housewives, bitches. It's so, I can't believe it's like, I, I can't believe who I'm falling in love with that I never expected to. Also, Bethany Frankel starts off. She's like in her, I think mid-30s, she's single, she lives in an apartment, and apparently you watch her become a nightmare. Because as of right now, I'm like, Bethany's really not that crazy.

And Carol's like, oh, you wait. There are many seasons. And I was like, okay. That's crazy that the show has been going on for 20 years. Dude, 20 years. They are still putting out episodes. Like, so at this point, I don't think any of the original members are still on it. I don't think.

Okay. Wow. That's wild. And also, they're not screaming at each other because this is, so it's very much more like, interesting. And then they go behind their back and, like, say a bunch of other shit things. but they're also still New Yorkers, which is why it's fun, because they're still like, oh my God, you're going to, I fell in like,

Jill Zarin, hi, Jill Zarin. Jill Zarin introduced herself as Jill Zarin everywhere she goes. And Kara was like, you're going to lose your mind for Jill. And I'm like, I love her. I love her. I want to be her. I want her to be my mother. I want her to be my daughter.

I want to take care of her. I want to be best friends with her. Yeah, yeah. Especially there's something about the wealthy of New York that even though, of course we need to despise them. I also want to know everything about every detail of their lives. Everything. You want to judge them while, like, one of them was like, I mean, we went to the opera

last night, so we have to see if we're in the society papers. And so they're, like, sitting there, like, looking. And then her husband's just like, I mean, it's just your back. And she's like, best back in New York. Yeah. It's that kind of shit where I'm just like, best back in New York. You also, Alex, I just want to punch her in the face. Oh, I hate this bitch.

but it's great because they're not screaming at each other. So it is such a different world. I know they get to a point where they're all screaming at each other. Don't get me wrong. I know it goes there. But right now I'm living for the just like verbal bar, verbal bar, a verbal bar, but not screaming. Okay.

All right. Especially Countess Luan. Oh, you're going to love Luan. Oh, yeah, I've heard of her. Excellent. Ah, Jeff, I will stop. Now I will put my, I'll put a pin in it for now. That is it.

I just wanted to lay that at your feet. Well, I got a long flight to L.A., so it sounds like I'm going to be downloading some Real Housewives of New York episodes. I think you're damn right you're going to be a listener. I think. I mean, you could probably watch most of the first season. It's like, usually I just close my eyes upon sitting down and then wake up upon landing. And it's like time travel.

You know what's going to happen? I need you to watch as much as possible so that when you get into town, I will also meet you where you are and I will rip through. We'll try and rip through as much as human as the thing. I need to catch up to you. Okay. All right. I got marching orders.

Friend comes into town. You got, I mean, we got us, we got to set ourselves up for success here. Yeah. All right. I got you.

Thank you. Thank you. Sorry, Holden. What are your dad movies? Oh, yeah. Sad dad time.

Sad dad time. Yeah. Let's get into it. Here's, I'll just give you the list and then we can get into them, okay? We've got zone of interest. Uh-oh. We've got,

So you watched every big movie from the last years. Yeah, Zone of Interest, Y2K, Venom, Alien Romulus. This is a dad. I wasn't expecting Zone of Interest. That was my big surprise, actually. And more of that OJ documentary. Yeah, yeah. It's such a dad slate of filmic experiences.

A little bit of superhero, a little bit of Holocaust, yeah. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Well, you know, we'll start with Zone of Interest, like, yes, I just, I think it's important to keep talking about it. I think it's a good time to watch that movie. I think there's something going on lately where people are like trying to forget or ignore horrible atrocities that happened.

And I think it's a really good time to watch that movie and movies like that. Especially because it is about literally living amongst it and ignoring it. And hearing it happen and just living your life. And it's one of those... It's so incredibly well made and good. And that's the other thing.

about it. It's like almost a shame that I feel like other people aren't watching it because of the nature of the subject matter too, but it's actually just outside of it being kind of important for, you know, us recognizing how horrible Nazis were and are. I think it's just also like extremely well crafted in one of the best movies I've seen, one of the best movies that recently made that I've seen. The sound design is minute by minute to what was happening in the camp. The cinematography, some of the just effects that they do, the endings really compelling and interesting. It's just extremely well made. Also, they had kept, they put the cameras throughout the house that they were shooting in.

So the actors weren't dealing and seeing all the cameras and like the setup and like the, you know, the director's village and everything. Everything was kept separate from them. So they were also living in an isolation of like, talk about like a method acting that really truly. works. That's how you do it. That's meaningful. That is making true art. And that is what this, this, zone of interest is so, so good. Yeah, incredibly good. I know it's totally like, oh, wow, he's watching a movie that was the talk of the town a year ago. But still, it really is. No, it's good to remind people. It's on Max. Go watch it. I think right now specifically is a good time to like give Schindler's list or rewatch or watch zone of interest or and just keep this in the

consciousness because it's like freaking me out that it's like, was he that bad? Yeah. Like, I mean, it's like that is actually happening right now. Oh, yeah. It's just so insane. Yeah. So anyways, the other one that I like finished, I started a bunch and I will be slowly finishing them this week.

But Y2K, I will concur is a ridiculous, silly, fun romp. Very fun. Have you guys, you've seen it, right, Jackie? No, I didn't go see it. I heard that it was told it wasn't that good. I thought it was really, it's, it's like way dumber than I thought it would be. I think that's what it is. I think it's another one of these, like when we get to hard eyes.

Like, I think that it was billed. I thought that it wasn't going to be as silly. And then someone told me that it was silly and not as much of a horror. And I was like, oh, okay, I don't care that much. Unless it's really good. Like, if it's really good, I'm down. It's really fun. don't want to give away, even though I guess, I feel like it's, it's something I didn't know was in

the movie that brought, sparked a lot of joy with me. There's a cameo that's great. That's great. That's great. That's a lot of fun. Honestly, now that you can just stream it, right? I think that I will, I'd love to just stream it. You and, you'll have a great time. I had to, it was because we did not see it on purpose. It was just like, it was this movie or another movie going to see it in the theater and we chose whatever other movie it was. You know what I mean? It was a perfect, like, palette cleanser for Y2K. It was just a silly as fuck. You know, the whole premise is like Y2K, you know,

we all remember the fear around Y2K. And it's like, what if Y2K happened? Uh-huh. And like your everyday appliances started to try to just kill you with the ball dropped. You know, and then on top of that, obviously, it's just a giant excuse to throw, you know, millennial references at you, like nonstop. Of course. Oh, yeah.

And they do a really good job of that. You know, it definitely has, it's got like zombie land vibes. It's got like, it's just totally absurd, you know, fun, like kind of horror. But, you know, for the most part, it's just like, it's just so silly and ridiculous. Honestly, I think that is genuinely why I've heard such weird all over the place reviews of the movie Hard Eyes, which is in the eat movie theater right now. That is, it was a Valentine's Day, like, slasher movie. It is directed by Josh Rubin, who we all know from the New York comedy scene from a long time ago. It's really awesome.

And the thing with it is that the trailer that I saw for definitely, like it seemed like it had some Zanier moments, but it was definitely more projected as a true slasher. And just a good, fun, you know, Valentine's Day themed horror movie. So I think that the people that I've talked to that didn't know that. that it was way more of like a rom-com, which also I'm looking at you, Melissa's amazing. Melissa's from chat. Melissa's from chat told me, like, think more rom-com than horror,

and I think that you might like it. And I, and they were right. Because knowing that it was more rom-com, I was like, oh, okay, I'm ready for this to be just a light, silly movie. But if I went into it thinking that it was going to be like, just a hardcore slasher, I definitely would have been put off by it. But I, knowing that, going into it, I really enjoyed it.

It's fun. And people are like, you enjoyed it? It's just a fun. It's fun. It's an hour and a half. It, like, it's got fun twists in it. It's Y2K. Just as silly.

It's fun. It's fun. It's dumb. It's not trying to be anything. It also has fun cameos in it too. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm trying to be anything other than like a goofy, you know, horror comedy, which, which I'm in the mood for. Yes, and the only thing that made me sad is that I felt,

I kind of felt like the two lead people didn't have that much chemistry together. Uh-huh. But they both did a good job. They both did a very good job. I just maybe they weren't feeling each other. But, you know, I really enjoyed it. And so it seems like if you like a hard eyes or if you like a Y2K, check the one or the other out.

Or both. That sounds like a good double feature evening. Or both. You could have a double feature. I didn't finish Venom or Alien Romulus. What was the other one I named? I forget. That's good, because I have almost no questions about that.

Well, I know I saw Alien Romulus. I'll just say about Alien Romulus. Like, I'm enjoying now that the shit has started to turn up, I'm enjoying it. But like, I know aliens so well. And one thing I wish they, I don't get this with. Oh, yeah, I liked Alien Romulus. I don't get this with the newer Alien movies. And I'm almost kind of feeling the same way about Venom, too, which I also need to actually go finish.

And now that the shit's starting to happen about 30 minutes or so in, I'm like, oh, okay, now I can start enjoying this movie, but I just miss how sometimes back in the day movies were made with such like efficiency. I feel like they spend way too much time trying to like set up the characters and get me to care about the characters as people.

And I'm like, dude, this is an alien movie. Give me less. Like, yeah, give me less of that. Yeah, I don't, you know, if you just kind of basically introduce the character and have scenes of them like hanging out a little bit, I'm good. You don't need to like give me all these story beats

with them before we get into the shit. I mean, if you remember Alien, like, they get right in there. There's a lot, there's not a lot of dialogue up top, you know? I'm down for that. Like, I want not a lot of dialogue in my classic alien. I don't need to know your backstory to watch you die. You know what I mean?

You know what I mean? I just- I'm trying to remember, I think the differences back in the day with movies like the thing and Alien, they would have, like, I don't want to say filler, but they would have, like, non-horror thriller sequences, but they got it across in just like a casual dinner scene where everyone's just sitting around and like just shooting the shit.

And I'm way more into that and compelled by that than like giving me all these like exposition monologs. On like their backstory and everything and having them like have these relationships with each other where they're like working through. Like it's just like they're all on a ship. They're working together. you know, they're like, God, this reminds me a mouthwashing, by the way, Jackie, that was a very good video game. I know it's a video game, but it's totally like...

Never say the words video game in front of me. Mouthwashing is like the kind of sci-fi horror movie Jackie loves, but in video game form. And it starts off, you're the captain of this cargo ship. There's like a crew... I love being a captain. There's like a crew of four other people. It, you know, you get the instruction to turn left.

Oh, that's right, it's like Aniara. Yeah, and the only choice you're given is to turn right, and you purposefully, like, crash the ship. And then it keeps flashing forward and back and forward to the present where, like, the ship has crashed and they're in survival mode. Why is it called mouthwashing? I don't want to give it away, but, you know, it's a cargo ship. And, you know, but it gets, like, really...

There's mouthwash in it? It gets really psychedelic and crazy and weird, and it's, like, constantly flashing backwards and forwards. So the kind of games, I just need you to play it in front of me so I can go, ooh. Whoa. Maybe go, if you're curious about that, maybe go look up a gameplay. The other cool thing about it is it is like a two and a half hour long.

Like I played the entire thing from beginning in on a live stream on Saturday. You can die, I guess, but you just restart from the, it's just more about it. It's more of a story game. But anyways, it's like, that's kind of what I wish this was more like where it's just the pacing is like, we're not like throwing everything at you. We're not like giving you. I don't know. It just felt too much.

The cool thing about Alien is the movie, the original movie, the movie, is like it feels alien, like from your normal movie experience. Like, it actually feels like, oh, my God, I'm in this ship. I'm so far away from things. And there's so much silence. And they're just, they don't need to explain anything. It's the monster, these pods are so creepy. The monster's so creepy.

We know what's in the ship. You know what I mean Alien Romulus? We know what's- Or I just don't need to know. Or I don't need to know Sigourney Weaver's like home life back home. I don't need to know about her relationship with someone else. on the crew. Sometimes less is better. There are certain, especially, like, especially with horror or sci-fi, sometimes they get lost

in trying to explain it. And there are certain times was like, stop, stop, stop. That's what makes it scary. It's like the not explaining. And I think what makes me feel like I'm on the ship is actually just letting me be in the room while they're like eating and hanging out. And then some shit goes down, as opposed to being like, now we're going to do this scene where we set up the relationship.

But then I just see the script and I'm like checked out. But also, I was just about to be like, that's the thing. It's like, I think that you also know that in writing a script, it's like, well, show, use action. Don't use your words. And you know that that's one of the main things about script writing is that like, well, show it in action. And don't just say it. Especially if you're trying to evoke the original alien movie, which I feel like this is trying to do, you know. But anyways.

But it does get better though. Yes. I remember now it ramps up. It does get like it is. Not that it's bad, bad up top, but I remember being a little borough story. I just can't believe they went with that very kind of by the numbers approach when they're making an alien movie that's trying to evoke the original alien movie. Yeah. It's weird.

It's like, why is Hollywood like this? Like, why do scripts have to be written like this now? Like, they all have to be like this. It's been the first half an hour just like setting up all, trying to get you to like feel for the characters. And I just feel manipulated. I feel like they're just, you know, I'm like, I'm not falling for that. I don't care. I'm not falling for this.

No. Anyways, it's a long tangent for that. I understand, though. I mean, honestly, I've been slurping up because we just did Detroiters and we just watched all,

like, because Jeff and I were barely around each other, so when he would get home at the end of the night, he just wanted to watch something silly and easy and slurped up all three seasons of, I think you should leave

with Tim Robinson. Oh, yay. Talk about, it's like the opposite of what you were just saying, of just like, it is just character. You don't need much.

Very similar. let's just get through it. And it's just fun. And you, it's like, okay, well, you know he's going to scream at some point, but you don't know what he's going to scream about now. And I am here for it. I can watch Tim Robinson do anything at this point. I love his face. I love everything about him. And I think you should leave is a, every episode's like 16, 17 minutes long in and out, short sketches. It's great. I almost never watch like sketch comedy or comedy these days. Same. But when I was actually, it's... Well, that's not true anymore. Yeah, now you're back into it. Yeah, I'm watching for comedy. But it's been a long time now, actually.

But when we were in Pittsburgh for tour, which was, I think, the last stop on our page 7 tour, I stayed with one of my best friends from college and we did sketch comedy together in college. And we always, like, he and I were like, that he... I watched all Mr. Show with him. Yes. We were like sketch comedy.

like friends. And so he was like, have you seen? I think we should, you should leave. And I was like, no, I don't really watch comedy that much. And he was like, all right, that's what we're watching. And it was just one of those things where I was like, why don't I watch this? This is so, why don't I watch more comedy? This is so, so, so fun. And yeah, so I'm also on the Tim Robinson fan train. God, just he can do no wrong in my eyes and I'll watch it forever. But, you know, that's, that's all right. I know I just can't sit here and dream about Tim Robinson by myself. I was watching other things as well as this whole Tom Green asance that's happening over on Amazon Prime. Oh yeah. I kind of lost myself a little bit to it. I did watch.

Wait, tell me about that. This is the Tom Green documentary. So not only, so he got a, he was green lit to do a full doc that he wrote and directed himself about himself. And then he also has a comedy special that dropped. And then he also has a new show about his live. life in Canada essentially living on a ranch. Really? And he lives on a ranch now and like has a mule and like just kind of lives this like kind of quiet life. Is he like Stivo where he's like become even like more appealing and like set up and stuff? Yeah.

And this is definitely, you know, he was talking. So I saw him in a, he was on a podcast. I was, I enjoyed. And he was talking about how like this is actually kind of straight down the barrel. like the kind of Tom Green you used to come to expect. Like the documentary is very genuine. The stand-up special is very much just a straight-down-the-line stand-up special. And he really is just living this like simple life out in, you know.

I think a lot of that is just because like the thing that he started is now being done at such a ridiculous level all over YouTube and TikTok and everyone's like, he started it. He started all of it. He was a revolutionary. Even before a jackass, right? Oh, yeah. Way before. Yes.

And he did it before all of them. And he is like the godfather of Eric Andre. He is like not really, but of all of the spirit of their comedy. It's, it all came from Tom Green. And it was actually a lot of fun because I had watched this with Jeff who I was just like, man, how obsessed with Tom Green were you growing up? And he's like, honestly, I never watched one episode. He's like, I knew that Tom Green was an institution that I should get into, but I never,

He's like, I was just a little too young for it. And I was like, oh, well, then I've got a treat. So we watched the I, this is the Tom Green documentary. And Jeff was like, I had no idea what he did for comedy. Like just like, and how he changed the, I was like, oh, yeah, dude. Like, we ended up sitting and then like watching a bunch of like Tom Green sketches. Like, I was obsessed with Tom Green when I was young. I had a Tom Green phase as well.

you look at him now as a cowboy too, it ain't helping the crush. I tell you what, it ain't helping the crush. I know, I'm even looking at pictures of him young right now and I'm like,

oh yeah, I thought he, I had such a crush on him. And it was at the time, yeah, seeing there was nothing else like it. Also, you know. Amazing I would,

like, so they get into like, I remember he was married to Drew Barrymore because in my brain, even though like I was so young when this was happening, I just remember being like,

I guess that for me was like the original like standing. for me that I didn't even know I was going through. And I loved it because in the documentary, he says not one, even slightly untoward thing about Drew Barrymore. He only just talks about it. And he's like, and our relationship ended.

And he just moved on. And like it wasn't like any kind of goss. There was it. It was just like, we had a wonderful love. And then it ended. I will say. Unfortunately, I have a doc. I have a doc coming out and I talk a ton of like mad shit about Drew Barrymore.

I don't know why. I don't even, I don't even dislike her, but I just went to town, dude. Good for you. Yeah. It's called Holden's Heroes. Not. Wow.

And it's just me. It's all about her. And it's just about Drew Barry. I'm like, hey, here's not my hero. Drew Barry more. More like Drew Barry less. It's a shame because she did. On your show.

Not even Drew Barry snorer. No, and I haven't Drew Barry snoring. She did try to do that little bit of scabbing during the writer's strike. I remember that. Yep. She's scabbed it up, girl. She's scabbed. She's scabed.

She's scabed. She's scabed. She's oligarched all up in here, dude. She's garkyed out, dude. But you know, man. She's a garker, bro. I love. But I'm happy for their love.

I'm happy for their love. And I had the golden age of Drew Barrymore, like, never been kissed. It's a fantastic movie. I mean, really weird. No, I'm weird. Weird, weird. It's weird. Oh, yeah.

Wait, never been kissed is weird. No. You can't advertise never been kissed. It's weird. What's wrong with you? Drew Barrymore as the bashful, kind of awkward, like, romantic lead was very special at the time. Also, her, when that movie came out and what, like, not to speak for you in your experience, MJ,

but like at that time period, it was the perfect time period for that movie. I watched Never Been Killed all the fucking time. I understand that the, I'm glad that things have changed and that that is not the case anymore. But it doesn't mean that it wasn't a great rom-com. At the time, again, it was just like, yeah, she, her being. kind of like the awkward but still beautiful hero. So wasn't it your dream? That was my dream.

Oh, of course. Yes, it is. It was problematic. I'm excited to announce, by the way, Jackie is coming out with a summer comedy for 2025. It is called Never Been Fist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Except that's not the truth. It ends the colon, except that's not the truth that has happened.

But you put it to me like, I've never been. It never happened in New York. And they're like, wait, that's oddly specific to say. This is weird. and you just say it never happened. You know I'm so young and I do wear diapers while we do this to show how young I am. So maybe if I did that, then it would get me an old man boyfriend. And that's what you know I'm always looking for when I'm sitting in my own wet.

Hell yeah. I'm so young. Oh my God. What are you Robert Pattinson preparing for the lighthouse? This is amazing. Yes. Jackie's going full method for this episode. Sorry, we're referencing page seven, which we've already recorded, but you guys haven't

listen to it. But you'll hear it soon. Speaking of brand new shows, I don't know if Holden, you might have to wait for Lexi. And I don't know if you watch this show with Gideon, M.J., but White Lotus Season 3 is... Oh, yeah. We're excited. We haven't started it. I watched that with Lexi. Yes. We're trying to finish up with the latest season of what we do in the shadows, which is a delight, as you mentioned weeks ago, Jackie. So we're having a great time. We're having a great time with it. But, yeah, last night, Gideon was like, let's We got to finish what we do in the shadows because we don't want to not finish it. And then we get into White Lotus.

Bro. Yeah, that's how I'm so glad we finally finish the bear. It was just this like. It was a bear. It really was a bear. Like it's just so stressful. It's so hard. Yeah.

Like what a comedy. What a romp, guys. So glad it's up for that award because it's such a funny, fun comedy that we get to sit down and watch. They do that season. They weirdly tried to jam a lot more comedic moments. into that season. And I'm like, okay, guys, we, we know you're in the comedy category. I understand. And it is for the best that it's not just 25 minutes of abject, you know, tightness and sadness. Yeah. But, you know, it's, I guess it's nice to have a smile every once in a while. Did you ever, did you ever check out hundreds of beavers? No. It's fucking so weird. It's on like YouTube. It's like an hour 40 or something like that. It was made on a budget of like $150,000. It's like a live action Looney Tunes cartoon. It's so interesting.

And it's like just jam packed with bits. And it's just very, it's like hard to describe. It's just so weird and silly and was made by like two dudes in Wisconsin. Huh. And it's just very. Is this a part of White Lotus? No, sorry. I just popped into my head.

So I said something. I'm sorry. You're shaming me. You talk about White Lotus. I'm not. No, I thought, no, I thought that you were, I thought you were connecting it to my lotus. So that's why I was like, no, I was curious as to where you were going with it. Holden's having, I have diagnosis. I'm like trying to, you are, you do not have a diagnosis.

This is like when you raise your hand and you say something unrelated to the teacher, is like, is that what we were talking about? Is that? Man or woman, a woman to man. I thought you were just meant to be like, and the director of hundreds of beavers is a part. of White Lohet. Like I was like, I'm trying desperately to look at why you're bringing this up, trying to figure it out. Penis to a vagina.

You are not diagnosed. But hundreds of beavers we should check out. Yeah, anyways, total side tangent. Just very weird. We watched it for, on a group watch thing the other day. And it's just extremely strange and interesting and funny and, and yeah, just very unique. So check it out. Just a weird movie.

Is all of White Lotus season three out? Are they doing it bit by bit? No, just the one episode. Just the one episode. It's just week to week and we got to wait, week. Between this and I've got the traders every week, which God damn it, this season is so good. Everyone should be watching the traders. I'm absolutely obsessed with it.

That's my thing, MJ. I know I need you to watch a bunch of real housewives, but I also need you to watch a bunch of traders. I know. I know. Well, I had a particularly, I'm not going to say it was a hard week because I was in New Orleans. And that was great. But I also was in a hotel room. trip with a six child.

With a five and a six year old, it's not a vacation. Trip with my one child to be a hard week. And you were going when Gideon was on a work thing. So it's not even like, you know. And then one got the flu. I was like, I wonder if I could show up to talk in TV and be like, well, we watched Rocket Ralph. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. We watched the Super Mario Brothers movie. Use what you got. You know, Reckett Ralph is fun. No, I knew you were out of town. When one of y'as is out of town, I try to smack more in into my fucking circle. And I smacked more in because I was lonely, sad weird dad. Without family.

Yes. I know. Well, I'm about to come to L.A., which probably means I'm going to have to delay watching White Lotus, because that is one that I do together with Gideon. So, but that means I get to watch TV with you. Yeah. You guys will watch hot trash together. Oh, we are going to watch a lot of hot trash together. And we will not watch the second episode of White Lotus, even though, man, they'll be.

They set it up. They just, they're good at writing, dude. If you were just to watch it, I can just sit alone in your office. No, yeah, I'm going to kick you out. I'm saying, MJ, find a place to be. They did such a great job immediately of setting up. Talk about setting up an exposition and weaving a bunch of storylines together effortlessly in an hour.

Really? And you immediately are just like, okay, oh, they set it all up. I'm like, great. here for all of this, here for, oh my God, Parker Posey. Here, the whole cast is just, man, knock it out of the park with this goddamn show. Mike White knows exactly what he's doing. And I, and just see, I'll do anything for Parker Posey, so just knowing that she's in it is, I'll just, I'll suck her bathwater. Oh, God.

I would. Dear, jeer lord. I would. I definitely would. I guess if you guys have nothing else to share, I guess this has been our episode of Talking TV. Thank you, everybody, for joining us on this episode. I am excited about watching, oh, new things.

It's not just going to be Real Housewives of New York all week. No, it's not. We're going to have more. We're going to have more next week. And we're going to have... MJ and I are going to watch a bunch of stuff. We're going to watch a bunch of stuff. And I think next week maybe we'll get to have talked about the Baldwin show.

We're going to talk about the Baldwin show. MJ and I are going to go see a movie together in real life. Oh, it's going to be great. You're going to be all scared, and then I'm going to leave you to sleep alone. Maybe I could come through Sunday night, even if we don't record us watching it. Maybe I could come through and we could do, we could just watch the bald ones together. Just have fun together. Watch the bald ones.

I would roll, I would roll through for that. Have a Baldwin time. I think I need a support group for that. I don't think it's going to be okay. Like, I'm expecting riving to happen, but not in the Milf Manor way, like in a new, even worse way. Very upsetting. Yeah. Yeah.

We're going to have to create, like, a drinking game to watch it. I think it's just get really drunk and then watch it. I think that's the game. We just get. Yeah, we each drink until we say I'm drunk. And then you put it on. Every time she speaks in an accent, because that would kill us. Yeah, you can't do that.

I just feel like any time that, like, you can see that Alec Baldwin wants to, like, slap one of the kids in the face, but he has to, like, actually stop himself from doing it. I think that would be fun. That would also kill us. I think that would kill us. I can't believe. No, it's going to be great. Well, establish the rule.

after the first episode because we're going to have to see how much are they talking about the manslaughter how much are they talking about the being not being from Spain you know how much is he used to go to the opera we're going to have to see exactly I cannot believe one of the kids name is Illaria yeah I cannot fucking believe that's weird that is so crazy way you know it's weird so insane it's so wild yeah and then oh and oh my god yeah just call her hilaria hell like yeah then also oh I didn't realize they had two ninja turtles too. Rafael and Leonardo. Whoa. Turtles and a half shell, turtle power?

Turtles and a half shell turtle power, yeah. Wow. And Romeo. There's no way she'd have a Leonardo, though. That's for damn sure. She wouldn't allow that much pizza. She did have a Leonardo. No, she wouldn't allow that much pizza. Uh, yeah. Uh, yeah. Anyways. All right, let's get out of here.

I'm sorry, I'm just looking at the names. I'm just shaking my head. Losing yourself to the Baldwin's and we need to do that in real life. Thank you guys so much for joining us on this episode of Talk a TV. We'll be back next week and we'll be talking in real life television. And I can't wait. We will talk to y'all then. Let's sing the sound. Talk a TV with MJ Holden and Jackie Talk a TV. And you know it's going to get wacky.

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