Page 7 - Talkin' TV - Major Divorced Dad

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

This week MJ, Jackie and Holden discuss the... unique looks of every MILF of the Manor, the Circle ending left LOTS to be desired, Holden's been on a romcom kick, Jackie gets on her spelunking gear to... head on down the Mulaney Hole, PLUS XMEN 97 AND MOOOOORE!!!!! MILF Manor: Season 2 - Discovery PlusMy Big Fat Greek Wedding - AmazonThe Circle Season 6 - NetflixAnyone But You --more COM less ROMThe Idea of You  --more ROM less COMJohn Mulaney Presents: Everybody's in LA - NETFLIXX-Men '97 - Max Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Talking TV with holding MJ and Jackie talking TV. And you know it's going to get wacky. Because everybody knows and everybody knows. Everybody knows. And everybody knows. We're watching shows. We're talking TV with old MJ and Jackie. Yeah, nailed it.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Hear me out, guys. We record it once and put music behind it. No. And never do that again. No, I like, I have to literally take out my earbuds. to not hear you screw it up so that I can't screw it up. I have to hear what the fuck ever. It's what amalgamation of it that it sounds like with three of us.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Because I just realized I haven't heard. I've said it every time. Hold it MJ and Jackie and you never sing it. I nailed it. Well, today I nailed it. You didn't have that. I actually nailed it. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. But just with three people, too. What do they do? Do they slow to, is it super complicated? Is it math with BMI's? and we wouldn't understand. How do they?
Starting point is 00:01:11 BMS. Not BMS. Body mass indexes. Yeah, you're talking about my BMI's now, Holden. Speaking of BMs. We're so early in the morning. You're going to talk about my BMI's, I'm talking about my BMs.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I just had, I finally, I did it, guys. Breakthrough moment. And it is just after Mother's Day, so I feel like I'm allowed to talk about this right now. First time I take a shit with my daughter. We took shits right next to each other. I went to go in to take a shit. She needed to take a shit.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And the little potty's right there. I can't stop her. Are we supposed to be. And we sat and we chat? I'm frankly, this is old news over here, man. I'm surprised it hasn't happened before us. But congratulations. Welcome to the world.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Constantly with Lexi. Always. They pee together. They puke together. They puke together. Always together. And this is the thing. And then you go ahead and you watch a show like smothered or extreme sisters and you
Starting point is 00:01:59 meet adult sisters who still like to poop together and you're like, or adult mothers and daughters who still like to poop together. And you're like, okay, I'm just because this is happening. in my house right now. It doesn't mean it's going to happen 30 years from now. It felt weird. It felt weird. It felt wrong. But it was also hilarious. So what am I going to do to stop it? It was great. But anyways, on with the show, we have been watching an immaculate amount of TV. I'm like, I'm in like a rom-com way. But before we get to my rom-com way, I think I'm most excited to hear about the newest episode of Mith Minor.
Starting point is 00:02:39 As they call it. We gotta start with the Manor of Milfs. What's the newest episode have for us? I mean, where did they take it somewhere new? Yes, they do. So you haven't, you are, Jackie and I are caught up on Milf Manor. We are up to season two, episode three.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And Holden, it sounds like you are, uh, have not been blessed yet with that experience. MJ and I woke up at the croc of dawn to get this episode. We really folded it into our bodies. Had I known, I would have watched it. We, we watched it. We watched my big fat Greek wedding, which fuck it is great, which holds up. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Fantastic film. Man, they don't make them like that anymore, too, by the way. Can we just say that? Boy, do they just, I kept marveling at how the protagonist just looks like a kind of, not like in a bad way, just a normal woman. Well, that just didn't exist in movies, sadly enough when my big fat Greek wedding came out because that's why the movie blew me away so much. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:38 But also was really hurtful that in my head, as a, like, forever fat young person, I just, like, watching it and they're, like, they're being like, she is big. She isn't bigger than the other girls. And I'm just like, come on, guys. You just look so. She's hot as shit. It's like the love actually problem with Natalie when, you know, on the one hand in love actually, it's like, I guess it's nice that you're, like, highlighting fat phobia.
Starting point is 00:04:04 But on the other hand, you're kind of just. You're not doing anything for it. Bullying this woman, like, constantly as a punchline throughout the entire movie. Totally. But we do still, like, in my family, we still quote my big fat Greek wedding all the time. My mom and I watched it constantly, and we still talk about how the man, he is the head of the family, but the woman is the neck. And it's great because you turn the head wherever you want. And that is true.
Starting point is 00:04:35 That's lump. I am the neck. of Jeff and he only looks right telling the look. Speaking of next, that lump in my neck, it was my twins. The bupsey, the bupsey. I love Andrea Martin and she, like, talk about another, like, comedy heroine of mine. Sure. I want to snort her up.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I thought you were going to say, I thought you were going to say, speaking of necks, let's talk about Milf Manor because, man, man, those women have had some neck work. turkey necks turkey necks yeah that's what we're calling surgeries on that show mj you weren't here for the conversation that holden and i originally had when we were looking at the milfs that we're going to be entering into milf manner season two and up top we or at least i still call her jammy in her in my head even though her name is janey the one that has the crazy eye makeup that just keeps being like i have a secret i was going to ask you guys about her i makeup. Her eye makeup. She looks rough. It's rough. She looks like how I always look because I never properly have the right material to take my eye makeup off. How dare you say that about your eye makeup? After a wedding, after an event, I look a little bit, you know, uh, jammy. Slutty. Jammy. Yeah, because I, I never do. I look a little bit jammy. I never do a good enough job taken off my eye makeup and then in the morning. Yeah, it's kind of like, you kind of get like I cried all night.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Exactly. It's I cried all my eyes. And that's just Jammy's look. She just wants to look like that. She's clearly choosing to look like that. And I'm sorry I said the thing about the necks. I'm truly not trying to make fun of older women for their necks. It's the amount of, and I'm not even trying to make fun of people who get work.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I don't know what I'm doing. Something, I'm very, I'm just in a permanent state of upset after watching Milf Manor. You could just really tell that like the different kinds of tightening that the women have done. Yes. Because they all have vastly different tightening and different spots. Yes. So you, it's really, I think that's what you're saying, MJ. It's very apparent in the necks because we all know, I know what my neck looks like and I'm 36 years old.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So the fact that their necks are like, I don't even know how they're swallowing anything. I don't, I think that's what you're referring to, MJ. And that is okay to make comments of, especially because it's just like, man, watching Jeff come in this morning, he believes to go to work. and I'm watching Milf Manor. And he goes, they brought in the fathers. I was like, yeah, babe. They brought in the fathers as we're watching the tantric yoga session with father and son
Starting point is 00:07:16 with a woman in between them. Yeah. But also, not just any woman Holden McNeely, because this episode brought back. Da-da-da-da-da-da-ha. Kelly's back in the house. The worst bitch. from season one of Milf Manor.
Starting point is 00:07:34 The bitch everyone hated. The one with the little boy son who was too young to be on the show, they brought her back. She even comes, she walks into the house and someone's like, Joey, where's Joe? And she goes, Joey, that's my son. And we're like, oh God, stop being so excited
Starting point is 00:07:50 and wishing your son was here. You creepest, Kelly. It is. You know what? Last week I was saying that this season is less upsetting. and I'm actually, I think I might need to issue a mea culpa already. I think this season is more upsetting. Can we slap another maya culpa?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Even the fact that, like, I want to throw a little shout out out to Allison, I believe it was Allison that brought up the fact that watching the emotional trauma that Miles is having to undergo every week because Holden, I don't know who's estranged from his father. He's estranged from his father and has not talked to him in many, many years. Right. Yeah, yeah. I was supposed to go on dates with his dad. I'm confused, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I'm so confused as to what the production's intent on this show is, right? Aren't you guys like a little confused, like, what they're trying to do? Because in a way, I feel like they... The real fee, they're trying to get into the real fee, holding the room I'd like to fuck in. But the production crew or the people in charge of, like, making the show happen, there's definitely, like, a huge attention to ick factor, right? They wouldn't be doing the tantra thing in season two. I mean, you have to look at the...
Starting point is 00:08:56 the comparison between season one and season two. The strange father thing is so out of pocket. Nobody wants that. Completely. Right? It's like, yes. I mean, nobody wants to see a father and a son like sandwich a woman either.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Like, I honestly don't. But I'm watching it, MJ. But you say that, but I'm watching it. But it's not even like a runaway hit. It's not like everybody.
Starting point is 00:09:18 It's like, I feel like when Love is blind came out, everyone was like, oh, bud, yeah. And like, well, nobody cared. Nobody wanted to watch it last year except us
Starting point is 00:09:28 I swear to God we're the only people Us in our community the only people who watched this show Can't believe they came back for a season two They are now making it more horrifying With the fathers and the sons And then yes having an estranged family It was important for people to say they didn't watch it Because of how upset it was like I drew a line
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yes it was the line in the sand It was the line in the sand It was the line in the sand I have a point I cannot cross it And I found it and it's Milf manner And we're astronauts, right? Yeah, we're floating over that line. We are exploring the greatest unknown.
Starting point is 00:10:02 We are excavators. We are gravity right now. Yeah, I'm the Sandra. I'm just, oh, babe. Well, I think I'm the Sandra. Maybe you're George. Doubted. I'm pretty sure you're the spaceship.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Don't think so. I think that you are upon which we dock. Thank you very much. I won't be surprised if there isn't father's son. docking at some point. I wouldn't be surprised of one penis is going into the other penis. Get out the foreskin. This season two, episode three,
Starting point is 00:10:32 much more upsetting than the previous two episodes. Yes. The two reasons, one is the son, Miles, who has the estranged father, whose name Stacy. Real upsetting. Although Stacy does seem like he's got his head on his shoulders, which makes me realize like, oh, Stacy
Starting point is 00:10:48 probably is like the master manipulator. Yes. Because he seems like the true one. Yes. Yes. He's very charming and he's very, but he like, oh, I actually, it's very upsetting. I was upset watching this episode in the way that, remember when I was talking about extreme sisters are smothered and you see these like subtle ways, especially with smothered or I love a mom's boy, you see these subtle ways that parents control their children or undercut their children or do the, and there's things that now as a parent, I'm just like, I just can't imagine ever talking about my kid that way.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And like there's a part where Stacy, one of the moms comes up to Miles, the son and is like, like, oh, are you shy? Like, why, meanwhile, he's upset. That's why he's being quiet. Yes. He's like, but the dad goes, oh, he's shy. Don't ever count on him to be the one talking in the room. He'll always be the quiet one.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Like, do you know anything about him? You don't know anything about him, Stacey. Shut up. You were literally here to berate your estranged son. Like, it's so upsetting. But yes, Stacy is very charming. Like, he's very... Stacey, he's shy to you because he hates being around you.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And so he just completely closes up. Yes. Which is how I got around my parents when I was 16 and then like, you know, we continue a relationship together so that changed. But you were, wait, or was he, did Miles shut Stacy out of his life or did Stacy bail? I think Miles has said that he shut him out. Right. It was the son's decision, right? That the son was like I was, and I, Jackie, do you remember if he said why?
Starting point is 00:12:17 I think he said it was just an unhealthy relationship and he made the decision. Yeah, I think that he hasn't gone too far into it, which, oh, I hope he doesn't. The thing is that I will watch it. I mean, so you want to watch them heal, but you know, Milt Manner isn't going to be the thing that doesn't. That's the thing. You know, you might see healing on some shows like this, but Miltf Manner is not going to be the one.
Starting point is 00:12:38 No, no way, that's the thing. I guess that's why I'd like hate it so much that it's in there because there's no retribution in the show. I mean, even if they find it, it'll be in such a forced, gross way. Everybody will be worse off. It's inherently flawed that they're on. the show together, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:56 But it says here in the casting his ambitious entrepreneurial father ended his marriage of 15 years just three years ago. Three years ago. The divorce was heavy weight to bear up for Stacy. So that's about the time
Starting point is 00:13:08 that Miles has said he has been estranged from his father. So it must have had to do with that. Bad divorce. That's also an interesting thing about this season. It's a shame that they keep making the fathers and the sons
Starting point is 00:13:19 try to get boaters, like a bodeer sandwich with these women. Yeah. You could do something kind of interesting with this premise. I'm sorry I'm even saying that sentence. But I feel like what's interesting, what's potentially interesting about the show is you have all these adult,
Starting point is 00:13:37 like the daddies are all these men in their 50s, in their 60s. And it actually is kind of interesting to see a group of men of that generation next to a group of boys in their hities. And how little they've actually grown up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You really see how similar. the older men are supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Meanwhile, they're all acting like their 22 years old. Yes, and they all have been divorced, obviously. That's why they're there. They're single. Yeah, I'd like to make an argument that this isn't a great, like, slice of what men are like at this age. No, no, no, no, of course, a reality voice.
Starting point is 00:14:17 They're very specifically horrible men that would go on a show like that. No, I wasn't making a greater, theory about just men in general. Of course not. Of course not. I'm talking about the people specifically chosen for this show. Yeah, you're kind of getting, do you want the older one or do you want the younger one? Do you want the one that's more experienced in manipulating and hurting women? Or do you want the one that has less experience doing it? Which is essentially what we're watching happens. That's so real, Jackie. That's exactly it. Because I'm looking at, and I keep looking at these older men and
Starting point is 00:14:50 being like, okay, like, these men, they are, they're giving older. What else are they giving? But they're not giving wiser. No. They're not giving, no. They're not giving like smarter. They're giving they're giving a major divorce. Yeah. They're giving major. I'm still a giant work in progress. Yes. And quick question to, I bet they're fun though. I know I definitely would take out daddy's money for a spin. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. I'll bet they're better in bed. That their kids were on the show going in? I can't remember. I think that they stopped they're pretending like the boys didn't know but like
Starting point is 00:15:23 I mean they all know. Right? They all have to know right. I just, who does this? I don't know. I also keep wondering about that only because of Miles and Stacy. I'm like somebody must not have known. I feel like the dad's new. Because Miles 100% would not have agreed to do this. And the sons did it. Yes. That's what I think
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Starting point is 00:16:33 everything they know about women from these men. The older men don't seem to, like, respect women more. They do seem to be more manipulative. But they don't seem to have more inherent respect for them. If anything, I think the sons might have more potential. If only, they're men of this generation. and the potential for them to see women as human beings is more there. It's higher than it is with the older generation. It certainly is higher with the younger ones, which I didn't expect to feel. Me neither. I'm going through a lot watching this because I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:17:03 because you're thinking what kind of father would make this choice, you know, what kind of, you're thinking about the choices being made by the parents. Right. You're obviously thinking about the choices being made by these single women. Like, you know, if I find myself, you know, God forbid, I hope to be happily partner and married until I'm very, very old. But if I find myself single in my 50s, at what point, why am I choosing to go on a show,
Starting point is 00:17:25 you know, with a bunch of 21-year-old boys? And I don't know. It's just there's a lot. Oh my God, I'd go on this show in a heartbeat, I, J. I hate it about myself. Like, cut to 20 years from now, I'm just living, like, I'm living a jammy kind of lifestyle. Get me on Milf Manor.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I think technically I'm already old enough for Milf Manor, but that's something that I can't really handle. in my brain. Yeah. But I am way more perfect for a Milf Manor than I would be, let's say, like a perfect match. Which perfect match. Yeah, yeah, yeah. June 7th, coming out June 7th, very, very excited about it.
Starting point is 00:18:01 We will have perfect match soon. Now, we're talking about all of this Milf Manor talk, and I guess we have to talk about the, like, most, I don't want to say upsetting, but borough, snoro end of the circle that could have existed. Yeah, glad we can finally talk about this. Side note, by the way, Jackie, please. You are several years younger than the youngest cast lady on Milf Manor. I'm getting close, though, Holden.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Several years, it's going to be a different person by the time you would be eligible. Christina is the youngest, by the way, at 46, but that is the absolute youngest person. The only thing keeping me off of it is I didn't shoot out a kid yet. That's what's really keeping me for Milf Man. I can't believe Kelly's 59. I know. Kelly's 59. You know what would be fun is if they had 46-year-old women on there, but like people who didn't have kids until they were 40.
Starting point is 00:18:54 So it's like they're like, I'm 46, I'm single and rid of mingle, but I got a kindergartner at home, you know, like that would be a very good. Can you handle me? Yes. Barbie the ex-stripper's 45, but she's lived a long, she went a long road. Okay, so she's technically like 67. I like Barbie. It's stripper years.
Starting point is 00:19:11 She's 607. But now you've got to see Barbie, man, already with the drama, with the other, woman which love it. But now Kelly and Barbie are definitely going to be going head to head. Oh, sure. Yeah. Ooh, the spice is here.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I know we have to talk about the circle, but just last thought, how about the grown men who keep saying, my type is drama? Sir, you are 55 years old. You are 55 years old. Stop saying your type is drama. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:19:37 But also with the look, the giddy look on his face as he says it, where he's like, I'm not here for drama. But that's the problem, MJ, is I see this man. smiling and being like, I'm not, you know, like, I don't want, my type is drama. I don't want the drama. And I fall for it. And MJ, I fall for it.
Starting point is 00:19:55 I listen to it. I go, yeah, I bet we'd have a good time. No, no drama here. And I have about his son who is sitting next to him who wishes that he could crawl into a turtle shell. Your drama gave me trauma. Your drama, dad. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Completely fucked me up for the rest of my life. So I'm so glad you're into it. I'm so glad you enjoy it. Certainly. But anyways, I'm just, I just want to say, I'm brave because Kelly's the one I would bestow my genitalia too. I know you. I could just tell you're a Kelly guy.
Starting point is 00:20:22 All the guys are Kelly guys. She got some sort of, she's got something that makes the... She's got pizzazz. Yeah, she's got pizzazz. Now, I will say I have not caught up on the circle, but I know what happens and so you don't need... We can spoil it.
Starting point is 00:20:33 We can give a spoiler warning, but we can talk about it. It's such a weird limp balloon. It's like they ran out of money or something. It was so weird. What I saw was a post being like, it looks like they ran out of time to film it. Like they didn't do all the stuff. stuff that they usually do with the end.
Starting point is 00:20:47 So it's just felt very rushed. They truncated it in such a weird way. So essentially, like the whole episode was weird because even they like go through this very dramatic kicking of the final person out, right? And that's kind of drawn out. And then they go, okay, now make your final vote. And it's, and the game's over.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It just happened so fast. What? Wait, so we're going straight from kicking someone out to making the final vote to the game. And then they all go, I mean, no matter what, it's never, like the best, you know, one of the best parts of the show is when they all meet up at the end and reveal who they are. So it was still like fun enough
Starting point is 00:21:22 because that happened but just bizarre. So they did do the round table meeting. Actually surprisingly how well actually surprisingly how well Kyle took the fact that like Olivia hitting on him so much but then like Olivia happened to be like a very, it was a catfish.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And I was also kind of worried I'm like oh how was he going to take this? Yes. But he actually took it very well. And even in the end, like, they were still, like, holding hands, like, waiting for the, you know, like, I was like, okay, good. Okay, good, yes. I'm glad that I was, I'm glad my fear didn't come true. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:21:55 There's always that element on the circle where you're like, oh, no, is this man who's having a connection with who he thinks is a woman, but is actually another man? Is he going to have some sort of weird identity crisis about that? Yes. Yes. Yes. And, and he did it. Good. Because you never, you really never know.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yes. It's all very scary what you're dealing with. scary. It's all very scary. I really, I noticed that that's what I was nervous about in watching the last episode. Yes. But also I have to remember Jackie, it's like, this is reality television. I think someone's going to be, like, I don't think that even if he did feel that way, hopefully he wouldn't react that way. But you never know. Well, live on television. I've learned to not trust people because of a show called Milf Manor. Yes. I don't really have a lot of faith. Yes. I don't trust production people. Yeah, I don't trust anybody who makes shows anymore at all because of Milf Manor. The circle was, yeah, weirdly, weirdly nothing at the end. It was weirdly like just, there was. Also, I'm so glad that nobody gave an F that Big J's like, dude, you see like, I was big, but like now I'm thin. You know, I just, I'm going to put him in the face.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Miles's, so much. Meeting with him was so funny. He was like, yeah, what's up, man? It just, like, moved right on to like, my people. Like, it was so funny. Yeah. Oh, I love Miles. I just love that bad boy.
Starting point is 00:23:12 He's bad. I know, but also I wanted to watch him kiss QT, but they didn't kiss. Ooh, I left him to kiss. Well, that was a little ock, though. Do you think they really had some? I feel like she was kind of doing the girl at the club being like, huh, okay. Oh, she, no, he definitely had feelings for her.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I know. She definitely was like, oh, boy, I was playing you. Right, all right, well, go on a date. I was definitely playing you. Love and the circle is so weird. Besides the first season, there's really no space for, it's always so forced. Like, that first season, that one guy, like, really fell for that.
Starting point is 00:23:42 catfish person. Right. It was this whole thing. And I really believed the whole thing and they went way deeper in. But since then, it's so weird to get horny for someone. But I say this all the time. The long, the, like, my favorite Netflix couple is a couple that met on the circle. It was the guy John who was a comedian who was catfishing as his old Italian mother.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And then that girl, Alyssa, and she was really, like, mad at him. I think that one of, he kicked her off or whatever. And then they met in the, like, apartment afterwards. it was very clear that they had like major sexual like chemistry. Yes. And then now they're like, follow them on Instagram. They're so cute together.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And there are things still. And also recently we had the first love is blind baby as well between Zach and Bliss from the weird season and he was the weird dude. Yes, he was the weird dude. Yes. Something's happening out here, I guess. That is cute. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I will say caveat on that though. They weren't flirting in the circle. You know what I mean? Right. Yes. Right. Because he was the old Italian. So I get like going through an experience with someone like this and then meeting them afterwards and clicking and whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:48 But it's very bizarre to me. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. To fall for each other in circle. Yeah, because. Like while playing this game we're all playing. Where you talk in this weird script all the time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:25:02 But, but yeah, this is beautiful though. I'm looking at the pictures of them. They're so cute. I know. They are so cute. I really like him. Love is in the air. I've been really into romantic, funny things.
Starting point is 00:25:17 So I started with anyone but you, which was like fine for sure. But then I had to watch like the other one that has a weird, a you in it. The idea of you. I keep having to look up the name, the idea of you because it's such a nothing. And I keep trying to figure out like what that has to do with the movie. Maybe they said it and I miss them saying it in the movies. Well, is he like a rock star. Like she wants to be with the idea of him.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Sure. but it just, it's, I don't know. I would have picked like something like Milf Man or something. Checking, explaining romantic comedy titles to Holden. That is a show. Someone get me a producer. Let me, let me.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I should explain. Can't hardly wait. That's not even grammatically correct. But here's a thing, because you can wait. Right. But you don't want to. The reason why that doesn't actually work for the movie is she actually doesn't like the idea of him. She's like not.
Starting point is 00:26:10 That's the thing. It's the idea of. him that she doesn't like. But then she gets to know him. I don't know. That's weird. All right. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:26:19 I don't get that. But yes, it is, it is, because what would think if it was a romantic movie about the, called the idea of you,
Starting point is 00:26:26 it would be about the opposite of what happens in the movie where it's like you're in love with the idea of the person. That's how they made it new, Holden. Don't you feel like it was a new fresh idea? Of me.
Starting point is 00:26:36 What? What? That rom-coms are coming in with? Whoa! Crazy. It's nuts. I don't even know what movie is. But it is Michael Showalter, though.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Did any of that, like, did any of the show Walter come through? I was going to say it's less calm, more ROM than, you know, like, anyone but you is more calm, less ROM. And the idea of you is kind of more straight up. It's got comedy in it. I mean, you kind of have to have some levity, right? Oh, yes. This is where Anne Hathaway is supposed to be an old mom. Yes, this is Anne Hathaway is an old.
Starting point is 00:27:08 She's turning 40. and which makes me upset because her daughter is like about to go to college. Milt Manor. Yeah. She's kind of doing that in the very beginning. There's like her 40th birthday party and these like wacky dads are trying to ask her on dates and she's Ann Hathaway. So it's completely unbelievable. And she works in a fancy art shop in New York and she ends up and she ends up or maybe it's in L.A.
Starting point is 00:27:36 actually, I don't think about it. No, no, no, it's New York. She ends up going to Coachella for, for, for. for her daughter, last minute, because, ugh, her dirt bag, Deadbeat X is, has to go do something else last minute. So she's got to take her to Coachella and she ends up, I don't know, how this happens, accidentally inside of his trailer to use the bathroom, this guy in this boy band, who she doesn't recognize.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And that's what sparks it. And then she, he like. Because she's old. And then he dedicated, right? She's out of touch old. She's clung. She's blind, I think, because I don't know how you end up. Yeah, is this a lot?
Starting point is 00:28:08 Is this like the M. Night Shyamalan? old movie? Like, is it just like, every time she walked into Gocella and then she's like, I am a brick. No, that's me when I go in like 2026 or whatever. Yes. Oh, yes. But yeah, it's just, it's, it's a sweet movie about, you know, essentially, I'm, it's a total fantasy, right? It's a complete fantasy of getting whist away by some superstar, you know, but he's so young and she's so old. And he's got song in his heart. But he's not. taken seriously enough because he's in a boy band and it's this whole thing with that and oh but
Starting point is 00:28:46 there's more than meets the eye wow there is uh optimist primes in it there's some transformer shit in there for sure it totally goes down yeah that's that's that's the cool part there's like a half an hour in the middle of the movie she's driving the car and all of a sudden she's fucking a car but it's not titan it's like no it's like no he's like a robot so it's fine she's not fucking the car she's fucking the robot that he's a car i enjoyed it yeah i yeah i yeah i uh i i i uh i i i i i uh I will say when it gets steamy hot, it's steamy hot. I'm gonna watch it on the plane this week. It's a great plane movie.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It's a good plane movie. Great plane flick. I would say absolutely solid for that. Same with anyone but you. If you are into that sort of thing, these are all plain movies. But I'm glad we're getting, I want the rom-com to return. These are two like big outings for that.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yes. Man, Anne Hathaway. I mean, pretty much what everyone's just saying is just like, how is she as, how old, is she in real life? She looks 14 in this movie. She looks 14. She is ridiculous. 41. Wow, I
Starting point is 00:29:48 aged her. Forty-one. Yeah. In my head she's so much older than I am just because she's so accomplished. But then you remember, like, you know, Beyonce's like Bowery and so it's Britney Spears. Right. You know, it's fine. We're just old. Like, she was actually young when Princess Diaries came out.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Like, she was actually a young person. Yeah, because we were also actually young. But, like, you assume they're older because they're, you know, significant. Yes, anybody who is, anybody who's successful in life must be older than me, which is why it's weird to have a doctor who's younger than you, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yes, yeah. And you go, you can't, you're just a child. You can't administer the anesthesia. But they can. Before we go, I want to give, because I know that talking TV comes out on Wednesdays and our big show comes out on Thursdays. So I will give everybody a little teaser that we, another big TV event this week,
Starting point is 00:30:40 that we are not going to talk about today, but what we will talk about on the big show is the interview that Pierce Morgan did with the quote unquote real Martha from Baby Rainier. Oh, we will be talking about this. But one thing that I do want to talk about before we get out of here is the John Mullaney presents everybody's in L.A.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Tell me about it. The live show that they did all last week. So here's the thing. It's been Netflix as a joke festival. So, of course, like every comedian is in, LA doing shows all over the place. So while they were simultaneously doing the festival, which is very smart, John Mullaney sold a show where they were doing a live Netflix.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I think everyone has noticed they're trying to do the live thing again and make things happen. And of course, I used to be immediately upset that I was like, oh, you're just turning it into cable. What's the point if you have to be somewhere to watch something? but man, the live aspect really brings such an important side and such an interesting side of watching media that like we really don't think about enough.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah. And this show, I really beseech you to watch at least the first episode. John Mullaney's working his ass off. Yeah. And maybe I've just been in like a weird like John Malaney hole because I also watched them my next guest with David Letterman and John. Malaney, which if you're not a fan of John Malaney, David Letterman is like his huge idol. So like watching this sit down with the two of them, like just kind of talking about
Starting point is 00:32:17 John Malini's process. And like it's very much like as that's nice. As a comedian watching it like, it was certainly, I was like, who else is this for? I feel like this is for me and I don't know who else would give a shit about any of this stuff. But watch the first episode of John Malaney presents everybody's in L.A. it is weird. It's uncomfortable. It is they keep bringing on people and every episode they like keep adding on people into the like conversation. So like by the end it's like almost like a roundtable conversation but mixed with a like a bunch of different kinds of people. The paranormal
Starting point is 00:32:54 episode's very interesting. But the first episode there is this interview and this is what I was screaming about towards Holden and MJ. There is this interview with Ray J. And I have not thought about Ray J. I don't think about Ray J. Haven't think since the tape, I don't think I've considered the existence of Ray J. Last time I thought about Ray J was the taste. Yes. And I think that like I would assume that's similar for a lot of us. But John Mullaney must be weirdly obsessed with Ray J. And what a weird live interview to consume as someone that doesn't know anything about Ray J. Just watch it. I talked to someone that has worked with Ray J on reality shows, and apparently he's even weirder in real life than he was during the interview.
Starting point is 00:33:46 He looks like he's going through something. I don't know. Well, he's obviously going through a divorce with a woman that he's still in love with, which he brings up multiple times throughout the interview. Yeah, yeah, he's like, I got the tattoo of our wedding ring over here. But he's like, but no wedding ring. He's like, no, but it was so funny. My wife, my ex-wife.
Starting point is 00:34:03 My ex-wife. I guess my ex-ex, but it doesn't feel right to. call it. It's like, they call it your wife, man. Call it your wife. Oh, man. It's like, all right. It's so weird. We started watching it last night, but it was just way too late, but we wanted to get a taste of it because you would recommend it. But the opening monologue is, like, John Mullaney's killing it, but you could just see by the end. It was like, this is a lot. Like, this is a lot of work. But watching weird, uncomfortable live television, I don't know, maybe it's something I'm into because of what we're doing over on LPN TV.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Maybe this is like watching this on Netflix being like, like, in my, brain. I'm just like, this is what we're making. Yeah. This is where we're going. Let's make weird, uncomfortable television. I was even going to say, like, I was thinking about this show and I was like, this is, if I had John Malini's, like, comedy status, this is exactly the kind of shit I would be putting out. Like, I would just weird stuff that I, they let me get away with. You know what I mean? Like, absolutely. Just it does, because like, the whole thing, it's like, it's funny, but it's like not trying to please anyone. It's just like, like,
Starting point is 00:35:05 like really out there and bizarre. Yeah. I mean, right. Melani obviously has had this. There's even the reviews of it are weird because Malaney went from this kind of like universally beloved comic to then people were really upset that he got divorced. People were really upset with how it happened.
Starting point is 00:35:21 But like obviously none of that takes away still from his like, that he's a very, very skillful comic and I think is still a very beloved comic and especially a comics comic. But it's like a lot of the reviews were even like, John Malini's trying to like win back the goodwill he lost? And it's like, did he lose goodwill because he went through a divorce? He's very openly talking about what he's gone through. I think he's actually doing what you're supposed, not supposed to, but like, I think that he's really showing a lot of growth and really showing like what he went through and what was happening during all of that. Yeah. It wasn't just like a flippant. And like watching Baby J. I've consumed, I think, all John Mullaney content
Starting point is 00:36:01 like accidentally. It just happened to be one of those things. Like I don't even know. why. Because I always thought it was funny. But like baby Jay and him like explaining more of what he went through, I think makes him more makes him like him even more. But this is my endorsement of the show. This show made me concerned at points that he is going through a relapse. Check it out on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Oh, that you're worried that this show is? Everybody's in L.A. It's so insane. Oh, it's all over the place. Because it's that weird. He's so unhinged. Yeah. But at the same time, like look at what we do on LPN TV.
Starting point is 00:36:35 none of us do a bunch of blow. That's true. We're all sober as cats now. That's true. We're not Keith Richardsing our lives with a nice balance of heroin and cocaine. We're profusely sweating.
Starting point is 00:36:48 It looks like we are, but we're not. Yeah, this is true. It's just coffee, sadly. Coffee is red wine. Lots of coffee. Last but not least, there's one more episode of X-Men 97 coming out. There's one more episode, guys.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Watch this. It's an amazing show. watch X-Men 97, you're really doing yourself a disservice by not watching it. It's incredible. Episode 5 is like the fucking... Prepare for episode 5. It's so good. And, uh, agree.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Watch baby reindeer. And if you're interested, it is an hour long to watch the Martha interview. But it is, it is worth it. I will be watching that before. It's worth it. Before tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. I'll watch that before tomorrow, so we're on board.
Starting point is 00:37:32 We've all, we're all cut up on baby reindeer. So we're going to be talking more about. that. And, oh, yeah, and I guess I am endorsing the thought of you just in the sense of the idea of you. Watch it on a, the idea of you. Watch it on a Sunday afternoon with a quilt, you know, over you or something. Sounds nice. Get a quilt out.
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