Page 7 - Talkin' TV - MILF Despair

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

This week Jackie, MJ and Holden talk board games, someone's sprung a leak on MILF Manor, New York continues rippin' it up on House of Villains, Netflix drops Dancing with the Devil a doc about a TikTok Dance cult because of course that's a thing, Louis and Lestat finally return in Interview with the Vampire: Part 2, and Jackie hit up da movies to see In a Violent Nature and I Saw the TV Glow! Halloween Board GameMILF Manor: Season 2 - Discovery PlusHouse of Villains: Season 1 - Peacock90 Day Fiance:UK Season 3 - MaxDancing with the Devil: The 7M Tiktok Cult - NetflixInterview with a Vampire: Part 2 - AMC plus, ShudderIn a Violent Nature - IN THE THEATAHHHHI Saw the TV Glow - IN THE THEATAHHHH Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Talking TV with MJ Holden and Jackie. Talking TV. And no, it's going to get wacky. Because everybody knows what everyone knows. And everybody knows we're talking shows. Talking TV with MJ Holden and Jackie. Okay, olden and Jackie. Ooh, who.

Man, I was not prepared. Yeah, did you forget which song we were singing? All of it. I forgot to start. I forgot the order of the names. I started saying we're reading books. now. We're reading books? I mean, we are reading books. I am going to be talking about concerts and board games today. Does that excite you? Yeah, what? You know what? I want to get

another stuff, but real quick, just what board games are we talking about here? I must know. Well, the board game that we became obsessed with, so we went to this, oh my God, we went, Holden, you have to go with us. We went to a nerds mecca playland. And we had so much fun because Jeff and I, like, I'm a big puzzle bitch, and Jeff is not. And I'm always trying to get him to do puzzles with me. But since the introduction of us, because like I think canonically, everybody knows, I would that all games were banned in the Zabrowski household from a young age because of our anger problems.

And I'm trying. Which I do use as a parable to my own children. I'm like, you know who else struggles with anger when they live? lose Auntie Jackie. Thank you. So I thank you for your honesty and your openness around that. Always. I'm always down to talk.

And we played a game when we were hanging out with his cousins. And I was like, look at me. I can play a game and not scream at anybody. So we went to this nerd mecca that was called like geeks and tea or something. And they've got all these like differently themed rooms that you can rent out for $5 to play like big day. like tabletop games. And also you can just pay $5 and like you can use all of the games that they have.

You could, it was just like what a beautiful welcoming community. Oh my God, I love nerd so much. Yeah. And so we were talking to them about what kind of two player games we could play. And I was saying that like I'm way more of a co-op kind of player. So we got some like card games that are more co-op. We also got patchwork, which I've heard is supposed to be. I got a lint it to you.

I was about to mention patchwork. I have it. You told me about patchwork. We got patchwork. But the game that we both became obsessed with is the Halloween board game. Cool. And this is a new game. It came out last year.

And the dude that runs this shop was like, it would have won game of the year, but they don't like licensed things. So it didn't win game of the year. But what's insane is that. the people that you're playing against all play as the victims and then one person plays Michael Myers but Michael Myers

has his own full separate board so you have no idea where he is until he's attacking you. Cool. And so Michael Myers and who's playing Michael Myers is watching all of the victims play but he's

stalking you on the board and unless like he comes in your line of sight like I felt like I was being hunted. I got genuinely creeped out. It was so much fun that the fact that like it was like we went, we were playing this game and then we went to go see in a violent

nature and I'll tell you guys about that amazing movie soon. But this board game, because like that's what the guy was saying, it has an element of hidden movement that is unheard of in a board game. That's awesome. And it makes it genuinely creepy.

That's awesome. I really like that. That sounds great. So highly recommend get thee to the nearest nerd store and get the game through the nerd store. Don't buy it on Amazon. Go to the nerds store. Give the money to the nerds. They need it.

They're trying to create beautiful communities for everybody. Hell yeah. I love board game stores. I love that kind of spot. And yeah, that's awesome. Kudos. I was in such a pre-winning. I was in such a board game phase where I like was getting all types.

I really liked for Lexi and I to play co-op. Patchworks great. By the way, it's a quilting themed game that's really easy to learn. Of course, my mom's a quilter and I'm excited. I really like it. It's really fun. It's simple. It's just an easy one to jump into.

Boss Monster is another good one that's like two-player-e. Sushi Go is really fun. That's more of a larger game. Yeah, we almost got that. Sochi-go is awesome. Again, I can lend you. these. I have all these. Oh, oh, and the Lord of the Rings living card game. So it's not a collectible card game. There's not like blind packs. You know what cards you're getting, which I like because I can't

get into like magic and spend hundreds of dollars on packs. And it's just insane. Like I get the draw, but like I don't want to add a gambling element to the to the card game thing. So anyways, you know what cards you're going to get in the set and in the expansions, but it's a co-op game and you're trying to work together to take down, you know, some enemy, like, that's that sounds awesome. And that was, that was really cool. Yeah, that was fun. I know, that's why we stopped at three games.

I was like, before we go by a bunch of board games, let's see if we actually play these games. That's the thing. But then we did. Like, we ended up, like, talking and hanging out and just playing games for hours. That's cool. We had so much fun. Just you and Jeff? Yeah.

That's awesome. Yeah, I love that. I actually, the stuff way you bring this up is I was talking about this on Wisbury stuff, but yeah, shoutouts to a couple's game night. We did one of those. We got sushi, our new tradition we're finding

sushi, lay it out in front of us, and we played Tetris and Mario Card. I showed her how to play Bellatro, the game I've been obsessed with the single player roguelike. And I'm like, I forgot how much fun this is to sit and put on, she hadn't heard Cowboy Carter yet, so I threw that on the speaker.

Hell yeah. Tetris and just hang. It's such a good couple's activity that's instead of just staring at the TV like, you know, watching a show. Speaking of which, let's talk about stared at the TV and watching shows. Yeah.

All right. I just want to get this out of the way. Melf Manor. You know what I'm seeing? I'm seeing a bunch of sad dads cry about their divorce. And look, this is what I have to say to you. I yelled out weak. When he started crying about his divorce.

Stop crying. British Ashley cannot stop crying. Max, I am not coming to Milf Manor to see a sad window into my future. Diltf despair. I am there to watch. Horny Milfs go after far two young men. Yeah. That's that. Okay. It's still therapy hour of me. Yeah. These divorced dads are bringing everything down. It was so funny watching out of the other dudes as he's crying about his divorce. And the other guys were like, oh, Oh, okay. That was doing. Oh, so upset about showing emotion. I'm coming from the opposite place of Holden. This was probably my favorite episode of Milf Manor yet.

Oh, my God. What is wrong with you? Because it is fascinating to see how men in their 50s and 60s, just how in-cab- we all know they're incapable of dealing with their emotions. We've all lived in the world with them. But to actually see this poor guy, the British dad, Ashley is his name, right? He is just so sad.

He cannot bring up his divorce without weeping. Kick him to the curb. He brings it up and all the other dads are there and they are so uncomfortable. And at one point I think Anthony, who we love, Anthony was like, let it out. That's all right. Let it out.

And then everyone else is just like, somebody said, do you want to take a break? Do you want to take a walk? Like everyone's like, what do we do to make you stop crying? And he just keeps crying. He cries probably six times in this episode. He just kept crying. And he's also British, and I have heard from the Brits

that they are even worse at talking about their emotions than Americans are. He was trying. He is like, and he keeps talking about his former wife in this extremely loaded. He's like, he won't just say, like, my ex. He's like, he says it with the, like, you know that he's said this in a weaponized way. Yes. He's like, my former wife.

But he's just so sad. The whole show is about like, male loneliness basically now. Also, the fact that on this episode, again, you know, spoilers for the episode, when they get rid of anyone that doesn't get chosen, and then you have to watch newly, like newly befriended father and son

have to say goodbye to each other, which was like weirdly loaded. Oh, yeah. And like, it was too much. I hated that part because, because they're like, they had to pretend that like they got some sort of like restoration out of this for their relationship. My house was like, well, I didn't find love, but like at least I reconnected with my dad.

And the dad is just like, uh-huh, I'll try harder. And I'm like, I don't think he has a piece of shit. What are we talking about right now? The show is called Melf Manor. It's not called Sad Dad Hour. I'm over this. MJ, go name that show something else. Go watch that show.

And I'm proud of you for enjoying that show. Whatever I want to be. I'm proud. Sad dads talk about feelings for the first time in 60 years. years, it would be a good show. I'm here to why. I'm here to rive in bed at how trash and disgusting. This is, it's not a group therapy session for divorced dads.

And fuck them all, by the way, because they're all just like assholes. Also, I will say, how dumb is Christopher? How dumb is that MMA fighter that's going after Barbie and just a dumb? What a dumb man. And he's not pretending to have any smarts. No. But every time he opens his. mouth, he's just like,

oh, I'm insinced. I'm incensed. I'm insinced in all of this. He's so dumb. I'm so, I'm just not the show I said. I'm going to keep watching it

just because we like, why not? It's like, so I have something to complain about. But we got some drama, Holden. We got Barbie kissed. Okay,

that young British boy? I want to see them smelling their mother's underwear. That's the thing. I don't want to see yet another in a series of love triangles. I've seen a million love triangles. I know,

but what about what Barbie kissed two men in the same day? said little Joey, but little Joey's kissed two bitches in the same week. And he inserted himself in the middle like a little bitch. And then everybody yelled at him. And we got some, also, MJ, how did you feel about when Anthony received the pictures from Lynette? And he went, mama me.

Because I had no idea that someone looking at a picture of me and going, we're watching two reasonably aged. We're watching two reasonably aged people just fall in love with each other. I'm fine with that. Lenny's like, I really like him. But we did get some teasers about next week where she's crying. And next week.

She better not be making her any food. And then it constantly's like, I'm going to make a really good meal. I'm going to make a really good meal. You can't believe. Anthony's going to break Lennox heart and I'm going to be devastated because they're two appropriately aged nice people

who seem to really like each other and they're going to get their fucking hearts broken. Why do I feel like that's the juiciest thing that's going to happen the entire episode and then nothing? I'm telling you. I know. They completely blew this.

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Hold in your heart hopefully won't be broken for much longer. We've got two train wrecks pulling into the station this month, very excited for both. So we are going to hopefully be watching as much perfect match by next week. because they don't know how many episodes they're dropping. Like, I don't know what weird bullshit Netflix is going to be doing with it. I have no idea. But we'll try to all be watching that together.

I will say this, though. My heart has not been broken. Milf Manor is a blip on my radar at this point. I just watch it while I'm playing video games for a small chunk of my wind down during the week. My heart has been healed by House of Villains. This show is absolutely everything I could ever want. I'm screaming with laughter. everyone is so crazy

everyone is screaming at each other at a constant rate they make fun of the show constantly Omarosa is pure evil she's a horrible person it's incredible now I find myself being like fuck that person I hope that person doesn't win and then I go actually they should win it's house of villains and they're the worst

house of villains and I am just ceaselessly entertained by it everything about it is so good you know I so I'm so I'm we have like 15 minutes left in the final episode and then we back into season two. And shoutouts to New York. Dude, you are reality TV fucking gold, man. New York is the greatest, I'm now convinced, the greatest reality TV star I've ever seen in my life. She is so funny. She is so out of control. She is just willing to, she's just nuts.

And yet, I've never seen someone be such a villain and so fucking likable at the same time. Yeah. Whoever cast New York initially really saw something in her. Absolutely. Oh yeah. And she is back in season two. Thank God. So no matter what I'm excited about season two. I want Francesca to be there.

I feel like Francesca is kind of the ultimate Netflix villain. Francesca's fill up with twins right now. What, really? Twins. Yeah, she got normal. Oh, yeah, and she has like a nice partner. She got normal. I don't really recognize these people in season two very much.

Larissa Lima from 90-day fiancée. except for I do Candy Muse from Rupal's Drag Race, which that's fun that we've got some drag race coming in. But it doesn't matter, man. If it's anything like season one and they're as fucking insane as that cast, I'm so in, man. It's so funny. And Shake's so fucking hilariously awful.

Like, he's so, he's such a misogynistic piece of shit. And, like, he does the thing where he was trying to play politically for a while. And then just, like, halfway through the season, he just goes, like, fuck it. I don't give a shit anymore. I'm just going to tell it like it is. And he's literally just, people talk to him. He's just like, shut up.

Shut up. Shut up. It's so fun, man. It's so good. Shut each other down. I love it. It's awesome. And like people just try to figure out how to like get out of doing the tasks and stuff and like the challenges.

Man, it's great. They just suck and it's so good. So shout outs to that show. I also will, my cup has been fill up with 90 Day Fiance UK. Okay. Because UK is back with season three, baby, and I am a couple episodes behind. I think there's three episodes out so far. And I really enjoy 90-day Fiancee UK.

I don't know if I got you to watch the first couple of seasons. This is a, it's a fun cast of characters that we've got. And also it provides the messiness that, of course, we crave from the OG 90-day fiancé line. It's not for everybody, but it is for me, baby. Love it. Well, Holden and I, Jackie, I don't know about you, but Holden and I have been watching the TikTok cult documentary, which I already forget the name of it,

because I'm just like, TikTok cult, dance it with the devil, isn't it? Right? Are you watching it, Jackie? No. Okay. No, I couldn't get my husband to watch it. He literally is like, I do not care to watch TikTok dances, and I don't give a fuck.

He doesn't like cult. But it's really more, more than anything else, is a cult doc series, which I'm both obsessed with it also, like at this point I feel like I've seen so many they all follow such a pattern. That's the thing. I got to be told it's an actual good one for me to actually watch it. I think for me is the opposite of Jeff. Like I'm fascinated.

I love this. I just even tell you guys this before. So I just repeat this a little bit. But like I, while I also have to acknowledge, especially as a person who has become a Swifty at a point in his life that like stuff that other people love is not going to be for everybody. Even if it's really popular, it can be easily reviled. right so like as a swiftie i have to also acknowledge that like some stuff's just not going to be for me

you know and that's okay and there's still a good reason why it's popular but like i hate the tictox dance thing i think it's so annoying and lame and i like dance videos like we've got obsessed with those dance videos on jacket with the holdies it's not that it's the vertical camera two team girls in their living room you know or or the obnoxious influencer in public ruining other people people's time, taking up space, just doing this like, and it's like so popular that people are getting absurdly rich from it. And I just think it's so stupid and eye-rolly and like just not my thing. Whereas I actually really like TikTok dancing.

And I thought that one of the, in the first episode, so this is about this, it starts with these two sisters who were TikTok dancers doing the living room thing. Yeah. But the younger sister, who is the one who didn't end up getting into the cult, was like talking about like as a dancer and she was like you know you get to a point you do all of the you know you're at the top of your game as a high school or whatever

and then you graduate and she was like you know there's like different paths you can take and if you want to become a professional dancer there was just this time period with the ascending of TikTok around like 2018 right 2019-ish where TikTok was rising so fast that all these professional dancers who would otherwise probably be on a very different professional path You need to have a social media presence. Even if you're pursuing it elsewhere, we get this, where now you go into an audition,

they ask you how many followers you have. Exactly, exactly. So even if you're trying to get into a company or whatever, that you are, it was like this massive asset for dancers. And I've always loved dancers. I like, I wish that I could have been a dancer. And so I'm like, okay, like, watching the way that TikTok, the way that I'm sure it has been for some standups and everything to just be like,

oh, this tool will be a complete overnight game changer for my career. So these sisters become very, very, very, very successful, popular TikTok dancers together. They're like, they're sisters who are best friends. They're not twins. They're two years apart. They've, like, always danced together. They become a TikTok sensation. And what is also interesting, because I don't know a lot about TikTok is that, you know,

there's these, like, if you guys talk about this with L.A., there's these, like, how, TikTok houses, right, where you have, like, investors who are basically like, we'll just pay you to make content, and then we'll be the managers who kind of monetize from the deals, whatever brand deals you get from Instagram or TikTok or whatever it is, like the product stuff. And then, but you'll like work for us. And so basically it's just, it's that,

but it was a management company started by a guy who already ran a church like a cult. And already had basically been successfully, successfully running a cult for like different cult the same guy, different groups of people that he was taking advantage of for decades. He just switched over because he's the type of narcissistic, egomaniac cult leader

that like wants to get involved in Hollywood and try to like make movies and stuff. So he had a real estate he was at first he was exploiting immigrants and saying okay immigrants come and if you work for me I'll get you can get jobs and I'll help you get a job in this real estate company and then

but he oversees all the money. He collects all the money. And we're at church, so you have to pay the church. You have to tithe. You have to do all this stuff. And so he does all this, but for like a very trendy,

popular TikTok group of dancers who have been on, so you think you can dance. They've been, they're like, you know, it's so weird. It's a great cult documentary because I think that sometimes you see a cult documentary

and you think like, this could never happen to me. Right. And you're like, this makes so much sense how these people ended up in a cult. It's like, it's almost like, it's just a perfect storm of Hollywood, fame, like the desire to be able to make money to do your art. These people aren't even really seeking fame as much as they're seeking being able to dance and make a living.

Yeah. Right. And then, you know, fame, success, and then this cult leader. So it's like this perfect storm of like the need and the thirst from these artists and then the power and the exploitation from the cult leader. And it's all happening on fucking TikTok, like right before your eyes. I mean, you can go look up Miranda's profile and she's totally active. She's like still in this cult. Damn. Her family is basically does not know how to get her out of the cult so much to the extent to which they've tried to, they've tried to go on Instagram and TikTok and make videos too.

They are making this documentary to be like, we have lost our daughter. We have no idea how to get her back. And this is like a, it's like a married. And it's the sad kind of dear Zacharyish, but not quite as intensely sad. thing where they, now they have to, like, in order to see her, they have to, like, work with her and they can't, like, bring up the cold. Like, she'll hang out with them. And she'll hang out with them, but just to make posts about it

so that people think she's not in a cult and living a normal life. So, like, Christmas, let's say, everyone's in matching pajamas and they're all hanging out. And then Miranda's filming it and then posting it to be like, see, I'm not, I don't have a problem. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not in a cult, but, like, contacts extremely limited. And so you, it's, and also, yeah, I love that you're talking about this.

MJ because I had the thought of like now I've seen so many of these I do really enjoy cult doc's series or doc documentaries usually it's a series though right it's like the how people got in it's everyone finding out that it's a problem and then the third episode's like them fighting back right that's like always what it is right and that's what this is and so you know and like cold leaders pray I feel like there's different types they pray in different things one is like lost souls they pray on people who have like a rough childhood and don't have a sense of community and that, you know, and they find them and bring them in. And the other one is hippie, dipy, just super all over the top spiritual people who are really interested in exploring everything. And then they like

hook them in. And this is the other one, the third one, praying on people's hopes and dreams. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's so hard for the people involved to say as much as I have millions of followers and everyone loves these videos and I'm making money doing the thing I love and every like why would I turn my back on this when it's clearly like God is good it's working like I'm successful in this thing because I joined this cold right totally and the way that like jacky watched baby reindeer and started thinking about how scary it is that there's like not all that much you can do about a stalker yeah like the way i'm watching this and being like this girl had like a close and loving relationship with her sister.

She came from like a healthy family. Totally. Like she, there is, if this could, it really, maybe it's because it's two sisters who are like best friends.

It was hit me in a different way like, I bet. Being a parent, but I was just like. But it didn't seem like a lot, the people involved were coming from these broken homes and they were these lost souls. And that's the scariest thing about it.

Yeah. And like, it is, and this family is just like, especially the sister. She's like, I don't have a sister anymore. she's gone.

Like, and it's really fucking scary. Like, and I have never, like, I've always watched, yeah, I watch Wild Wild Country and be like, wow, it's really interesting that this happened. I am not at all worried about it to me or anyone I know. And then I watched this and I was like, this could fucking happen to anybody. And maybe it was because it's in, it's, I relate more with the aspiring artist, you know, thing. It got more into the legality because it is so true that I feel like there does need to be a change in the legislature, but I don't, I'm sure it's insanely complicated because at the end of the day, there should be more,

I feel like, securities in place for when someone starts controlling someone else. Right, but how do you outlaw, and there's nothing you can do? How do you outlaw a cult? Yeah, you're helpless. You're helpless to the cult because there's nothing, there's no legal protections in place for when someone is being controlled. Yeah. Because they're willingly like doing it and they're, but it's like very clear.

You just wish there was some kind of something in place for that, you know? But they just show you how hard it is to get someone out if they refuse to get out. And it's very dystopian that it's all happening in front of cameras. I feel like the other thing about cults, usually it's very mysterious. You're out of compound, right? It's a wakego. Nobody can access you. And they're getting posts every day.

Yeah. Yeah, they're getting posts every day. And even when they're with them, they're on camera. So they can't even like, you know, because they're trying to show how normal things or shut them down. Awful, awful, awful. But it does blow my mind how blind people can be to just facts. Like, it's hard for me to believe Miranda has not seen all of the things about him from the

past cult that he was running, you know? Yeah. Like, how do you not look at everything in front of you? And at least they do show the people who do do that and go, I'm out. This is fucking weird. Like, this is getting weird. I'm out. And those people exist too.

But what's going on? Miranda, man. Yeah. This is the most effect that I've been by a cult documentary in quite some time. Yeah, it's the whole thing. And then just the whole time, the contrast of the happy dancing people is so fucking weird. Yeah, like the way that the, I do like TikTok dancing, unlike you hold it, but I do, there is the one where you're just like, oh, you're just like doing this like next to a Subaru or whatever.

Yeah. Like the way that it just takes an art form and makes it a commercial. Yeah. And it's like in a commercial without being a commercial. That's really sad about the way that social media is now. I just get nothing. I get nothing from it. And I love dance.

It's not that. It's kind of soul. Yeah, it's not like how I feel about fashion where I'm like, I can't connect. I get nothing from these like short TikTok. And all they do to, in my opinion, is they like are just good enough to make you like keep just going for more. But it's never fulfilling. Yeah. I don't know how to describe it.

It never actually fulfills you. It just keeps you on this. treadmill. It's like a slot machine. And it's all just to sell stuff. That's why it's also sad that to hear all these dancers be like you have to be on TikTok because the ultimate goal is to get a brand deal so you can dance to sell stuff. Right. Of course, all artists have to figure out how to make money and it almost always involves selling stuff. But that piece of it also like how this how this art gets monetized just by getting brand deals and how that made them particularly vulnerable to this cult leader is very interesting. Yeah. Anyways, there's our

spiel on that. Recommend. Recommend. Recommend. I recommend. I recommended. Got a little I say that, you know, like all of them, the most interesting shit happens in like the first episode, kind of the second episode, and then it kind of starts to, because it just is been fighting back. Yeah, of course. But it's really interesting. And you, and in L.A. now, it's so funny watching these. It's like, oh, I could drive there. Oh, that's just like, right there.

10 minutes away from my apartment. Probably fun for L.A. because this is just, yeah, this is your backyard. Yeah. Damn. Well, you know what's not happening in our backyard? That is interview with a vampire. Oh, hell yeah. caught up with interview with a vampire of season two and it is great.

If you have not jumped on the interview with a vampire train yet, highly recommend the first season. Second season is also killing it. That's really all I've got to say about it. I'm just, it's brutal, it's beautiful. It's very well done.

I'm really, really enjoying it. I think the violence of season one was just a little too extreme for Lexi's general taste, especially these days. I feel like since she had Winnie. She's even less into it. So I think what I need to do is binge it when she, like next time she goes out of town. I have to remember because we didn't finish season one and I loved it.

Yeah, because it does not, the violence does not let up. It is great, which it shouldn't, which it's super shouldn't. Speaking of the violence not letting up, I also have to talk about in a violent nature. And I was so excited about going to see in a violent nature. I've been hearing about this movie for a minute since it debuted. It is the, it's the same dude that made the movie, um, I've got him blanking on the name right now. Chris Nash.

Chris Nash, we did Psycho Gorman. Okay. And I was obsessed with Psycho Gorman. Yeah, that movie rules. And this movie was made, essentially, they had had this idea that like, what if instead of following the victims in a horror movie, what if we followed the slasher instead? And, and so you're literally,

Literally the camera is like right behind this creature following him. And you hear the things from off, like you hear the like conversations, but it's never like right in the forefront. Like it's always in the background. It's like what this, what the slasher would be hearing and what he would be privy to. So it's a new perspective of a horror movie. And I will say has some of the most inventive kills. And fun violence.

Because again, if you saw Psychogorman, you know the world in which this dude works, which is big, fun, violence. Yeah. And PsychoGorman can't recommend enough. And I really, what I liked that in a violent nature, it wasn't a perfect movie, but I loved what they were doing with it. And I loved, like, the practicality of a lot of the violence and how they made these things come to be. And I will just say it's a fun new twist

on a horror movie that I think everyone should check out if you like horror movies. But again, very violent. Okay. Not for everybody. Cool. That sounds great.

I love that. That sounds cool, man. I'm in. Again, when Lex is out of time. Yeah. Just leave it out of July. It'll be just taking away to Florida in July.

There you go. I should start making a list, honestly. Make a list. Yeah. The scariest most upsetting things. Yeah. Well, that's the problem too.

I don't want to just watch terrifying things alone in my apartment too. That's why I watch like funny girl too, but I just it's like my only time to get it in. This is why I'm glad that my husband has night court because when he goes to night court or when he, a lot of times he has work to do at night and so I can watch

my things that he doesn't want to watch without having to be completely alone for a week. That's what Jeff does with his D&D on his D&D nights. I get all my reality television in. Yeah. Oh, thank God for the D&D nights. All right. Is there anything else? I will say I just started

that Renfair Max show and I'm immediately into it but I had it on my second screen because that's what I was doing last night playing a video game and watching Milf Manor which was fine for Milf Manor

but the Renfair show on Max I was like this is like I have to watch watch this this is beautiful it's it's just called Rinfair and it's about I believe we covered this in Wizard in our Renaissance Fair episode

but they do this like contest for who will be like the king of the Rhinfair at this, at like this big giant one. I think it's the biggest one at the Texas Renaissance Festival. And they take it like really seriously. And it's a doc series about the different people competing to be king of the Rhinfair. But it's like immediately as I put it on, I was like, oh, this is like artfully done.

This is like really well filmed, which is very, very cool. And I'm glad RINFairs are finally really getting their due in popular culture. I feel like they've really transcended. did what they used to be in our modern era, which is very cool. I'm excited to watch that. I also did see I saw the TV glow, which is by the same director she'd made, we're all going to the world's fair, which is another indie horror movie. And I saw the TV glow.

I didn't know anything about it going into it. All I knew is that it was an A24 weird movie, and I will say that it was. And I really enjoyed it. but it's another. I get, watching, I saw the TV glow and watching,

uh, in a violent nature was so fun to see two very different, like new perspectives and new stories, um, to see them both in one week in the movie theater. I was just like, that's why I go to the movies,

baby. That's why you have AMC stubs. I love them AMC stubs, babe. But I saw the TV glow. It was a fun new. It's, it's a genre.

Bonner bending, but Justice Smith in it, he kills it. Cool. But it's a weird, it's a weird movie. Hell yeah. Well, all right. All right. I think that's our show. I love it.

I get a right this time. We're talking TV with MJ Holden and Jackie talking TV. And yet you know, we're going to get wacky, because everybody knows and everyone knows. Everybody knows we're watching shows. We're talking TV with MJ Holden and Jackie. Yeah. Bye everybody. We'll talk to you next week.

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