Page 7 - Talkin' TV - Sinners and Saints

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

This week on Talkin' TV Holden, MJ, and Jackie talk bout an alternative future where Russia won the space Race in For All Mankind, Jackie is feelin' Sunny, and there's even more drama in the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and the Momtok infestation of Jackie's algorithm. Holden gives a very positive final review of Dream Academy! MJ gives a review of the new to them sitcom, Kevin Can Fuck Himself and Jackie straps on her storm chasin' cap and heads into the eye of In the Eye of the Storm, and My Old Ass is an amazing movie, but it is NOT a comedy, and more! For All Mankind -Apple+Sunny - Apple+The Secret Wives of Mormon Wives - HuluPopstar Academy - NetflixKevin Can F Himself- NetflixIn the Eye of the Storm - Max, Discovery+My Old Ass- IN THE THEATAHHHHH Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

With an Jay Holden and Jackie talking TV And you know it's going to get wacky Because everybody knows that everyone knows And everybody knows we're watching shows Watching shows We're talking TV with a day holding and Jackie I was off on I was off this week That's okay though

We'll nail it on the outro Oh yeah we're gonna nail it good on the outro I can feel it Oh baby oh baby oh baby I'm not going to go too far into a show that nobody cares about, but it has been the show that my husband and I have been watching. I think I'm going to say for a month now, and I didn't bring it up last week because, again, I don't think anybody cares,

but I'm obsessed with this goddamn show called For All Mankind. I'm obsessed with it, and it's on Apple Plus, and the only reason I wasn't paying for Apple Plus for a while, because I needed to get rid of some of the streamers. So I was waiting for, I was like, all right, I'm going to let things, like, I saw things starting to build on Apple Plus that I wanted to watch. And I was like, all right, I'm going to start paying for it for a little while. I'm going to get rid of some of the other ones that I'm not watching things currently on.

So I'm getting all supped up with my Apple Plus television, and that includes for all mankind, which is an alternate history about the NASA space program if the Russians had beaten us to the moon. So it starts off with like the landing of like the moon landing video, but they're speaking in Russian. And it's all about how America and what we would have done and the funding and what would have happened with the space program if we had continued. with the space race. And I'm saying this, and I know this sounds boring probably to a lot of people, but to me, I am very interested in it. And it's a lot of space talk.

And yes, I am in the third season right now, which it kind of, I'm not going to say it jumps the shark. It just gets a little bit more fun. But between all of the seasons, there are major time jumps. But what this show does, on Apple TV is they've got all of this, like, extra content they've made because they have built out the whole alternate history of what else would have been affected by the NASA program continuing to be funded.

So in between, there's also all these, like, pieces of content that go year by year to explain what would have changed and what would have been different and what could have been affected. And I am, I know Holden hates history. Yes. But I really enjoy history and I'm very fascinated by space. And this all came from, y'all remember weeks ago or maybe about a month ago when I was obsessed with talking about the astronauts being trapped in space. And I was talking about this with a one Marcus Parks.

And he's like, have you seen the show for all mankind? And I was like, no. And last night, that night we went home and started watching it then. And it is a thick. There are four seasons out already. They are long episodes, and I am investing. Okay. Now, my, first of all, how many seasons of this fucking show is there?

Four. It's one of those shows where I'm like, I haven't heard anyone but you talk about this. It's on Apple Plus. It's Apple Plus. Everyone's talking about severance. Everyone, their mother was talking about severance. And the morning show. The morning show.

Those are the two. Ted Lassow. Yes. And talking about Chubb of the Shark, I kind of want to watch the morning show actually to experience the shark jumping because apparently it gets so stupid. Apparently it gets so dumb. Because there was some Emmy, somebody won an Emmy from the morning show and I was like, oh, is that still going? I didn't know it. Apparently it just gets so absurd. I heard some, talking about it. There's like a rocket launch thing in an episode that sounded just absurd.

It's on my list of things. In fact, let me know if there's anything from Apple Plus that you're like, definitely check this out. I've watched Severance. I've watched Head Lasso. But another show I started watching because it is on this. And I'm so happy I started watching it. It's called Sunny. And it is starring Rashida Jones. And Rashida Jones in a character she does not usually play. And she's living in Japan. And her whole life is destroyed because her husband and her son are killed in a plane accident. And then all of a sudden this robot that apparently was designed by her husband, even though she didn't know anything about that portion of his life, shows up to help her with her life. And it is about this woman in insane grief and also the idea of like,

who was the man that I married? And so it's like a mystery show that is, but they're half hour episode. So you can like swallow it real. Like sometimes I love a mystery, but sometimes I'm not there for, I can't add another hour long episode show into my current repertoire. And Sunny is just fitting the bill. It's, it's sad, it's weird, it's mystery, it's, it's dark. But it's, Rashida Jones is killing it. So this is another show. I didn't hear anything about this show. I just literally saw Rashida Jones on the cover of it, saw it had good reviews. I was like, all right, I'll check this out. And I'm really enjoying it. The Apple plus one that Gideon does want to watch, but we haven't started yet, is Time Bandits, which is based on Terry Gilliam.

And it's about a little boy who discovers a time traveling portal in his room. So it's apparently very history fun. So you and Jeff might like it. Brutal. What's interesting. So I didn't know anything about Time Bandins, all right? I didn't grow up with Time Bandits the way a lot of people grew up with Time Bandits. I knew nothing about it.

All I knew is that I had a bunch of friends that used to be obsessed. with Time Bandits. And I watched the trailer for the original Time Bandits, because again, I didn't know anything about it, didn't understand the cast. And then I watched the trailer, and then I watched the trailer for the Time Bandits for Apple Plus. And I was like, wow, they've changed quite a bit.

I know. And I am curious about that. Yeah, originally it was just about stealing seasonings and spices, right? Get it? Time? What is the... Time. Time. Time.

Time. Time. Time. You got us. We're like Felicia Grones, am I right? More like Felicia drones, am I right? Rashida. Rashida.

I'm sorry, Rashida. You didn't even do it right. Did you even do it right. Bye Felicia. Yeah. By Rashida Grounds. I'm just, I am full of it today. What am I here to say?

You know what it is? I need to, we need to talk about it. I'm, I, I, I've sat here in silence and listened. You're a moon magic show. You must listen to my moon magic. I need to talk about these exhausting women. Other people who believe in space. Don't they all believe they go to space when they die?

Yeah, man. Yeah, bro. I wish I could shoot these Mormons into space. I just, yes, sure, I will continue to hate watch this show. But these ladies, I, you know what it is? And they keep bringing it up. They keep bringing up. They're obsessed clearly with mean girls and the plastics.

Oh, yeah, of course. Because they are stunned. in high school. And I'm starting to realize, like, oh, to be Mormon is to be, like,

stuck in perpetually in high school. Because I was talking about it earlier, but I was like, I don't think it's all Mormons. I think it's just these particular ones.

These people, yeah, these particular Mormons are, they're like, yeah, because all they want to do is TikTok dances and, like,

they're freaking out because some guy brought a flask to the... Sometimes you're not invited to the baby shower. The baby shower. We're so dumb. We're talking about

secret lives of Mormon wise, by the way, you are. And see, you're new here. I have no care in the world if you want to spoil future stuff. Okay. I'm upset.

Don't want to stuff spoiled. Are you guys totally caught up if you watched all eight episodes? I'm not all caught up. I'm on episode six. I think I'm in the same episode. Okay, great. I'm three in. I will probably catch up pretty fast because it is now my show I have on while I'm playing

video games. I will say for those of you that get nervous about length, these are 40-minute episode. Yes. So it's not, folding in for an hour and a half to two hours like love island or even like perfect match where you're like, why is this an hour and a half? Am I about to watch a movie of a reality show? Yes. And there are eight episodes. It's eight 42 minute episodes. Are there only eight? Oh,

no, I don't want it to be over. What will I do when it's over? It's giving my life meaning and structure. I know that I think that the reason they act like they're in high school and I did talk about this last week a little bit, but like it is such an enclosed community that it must feel like high school, right? Like you're like, I have a small group of people I interact with and I'm always trying to figure out where I am in the group. Now that all three of us have watched at least the first

into the second episode, I do want to spoil. I'm going to go and say it. I want to spoil the end of that first episode because that is how I've literally gotten so many people to watch this show. Because remember, Remember last week that we were talking about like, oh, they're coming back together. Oh, they have to deal with. Okay. But that first episode is actually 11 months before the rest of the seven episodes because

the lead bitch girl at the end of the first episode gets drunk. There's a domestic abuse situation with her being the abuser and she gets arrested for 11 months. And the second episode is when she gets out. of prison. And then it's all of their relationships. And I didn't want to spoil that because, like, that is quite a drop. But like, that's what you're here.

It's drama. And that's not even the most, that's not even the craziest thing she's, that one person has done. No. It is the second craziest thing that that one person has done. And that bitch isn't even the villain of the show. No, she's not the villain of the show.

Side of the show. I love, man, that editing, where they, oh my God, Battle of the Bulged it. Went right up around her and were like, oh yeah, this bitch, you think it's gonna be this bitch, it ain't. It ain't that bitch. This other bitch is the evil one. Who's the worst?

Because she's the one trying to be like, I just think that we should have a, I have a better, I want us to bring it back to the what it was. Like trying to come off like she's like better than holier than now. And then she's totally just doing this, if not worse, doing calculated mindgaming shit. who's mean to everyone and acts like she is above it all and nicer. And everyone else are the mean ones and she's the victim of what is at one point,

one of the women says, Whitney is always the victim of her own games. And it's just like, yeah, like, of her own games. Everything would be solved in like a phone call too, right? But instead, you know, and so you know it's orchestrated. Or she could just leave the chat group holding and then unfollow everyone on social media. What if she does that instead? It's high school shit.

These are adult high schoolers. It's so absurd. And all the guys are just goof them up morons who are just like, oh, I'm just going to pregnant the world. I'm just going to stick my dick and make as many kids as I can. They got to keep making this awful system. One of the many reasons that's fascinating, not only the community, the entrenched community part, but also, like, because they're all, they're not all true believers in terms of Mormonism,

there are the sinners and the saints. But there's some of who are like, show that devout. Yes. And some, they're also trying to show that like Mormonism is not just the devout. It also,

there is a spectrum. There are people who are like, yeah, this is part of my life, but I kind of drink anyway. I wish they were more on the spectrum. I think they'd actually be nicer to the people around them if they were.

I, uh, I, yeah. And also, by the way, this is the real housewives format, right?

They have these, uh, there's always an event and then they, they create needless drama around the event that gets executed during the event that none of it was necessary. All of it could have been avoided by just not being a bitch

or just by having a conversation with the person that you're upset with and rinse repeat, right? Like that's like this is the thing of those shows. Right? And this is no difference. Yes. And what makes it like the real housewives I feel like there's, they don't all, they're not all united

by like a kind of a single way of thinking the way that that that's why real house is a the religious aspect and the religious aspect that so even in the with the range of the sinner to the saint with the range of the varied devout to the not so devout they all still exist in this context where all of the women like are completely believe that their purpose on earth is to like get married and have children and raise children and all of the men believe that their job is to get married and have children and raise children so even the men who are complete fuckabouts They're still, it's just like, this is what we do. There's no other, and it's not even like they're not ambitious.

They're all really ambitious. That's why they do mom talk, right? But like, it's just like, I just think it's so fascinating because it's like, in this community, this is what we do. We get married young. We have many kids and there are very strict gender roles. And like at one point, Jackie texted me like, can you imagine if we were Mormon, we would have these huge beige houses and we would have four kids and they would all be like 16 by now?

And it's like, there is something. We'd be done. There is something that is like. taking care of grandkids. Yeah. Like, but there is, like, it's not like I want this, but there is something that's very, like, I understand why people like it. Like, I understand how nice it must be to be like, I'm in this community, I go to this church

every week. This is what they tell me to do. Yeah, it's a large family. I love the idea of a spirituality that can, like, bring people together and help each other. But they're just ripping the hell out of each other. The reality is, yeah, all the women are eating each other alive. and then on the other side, every man has a porn addiction or a alcohol addiction or a pill addiction

or a fentanyl addiction. Yeah. They all, like, have you noticed? A violent addiction. Like every single one, one by one, it's like, Jerry goes downstairs and says he's playing with his train. He said he's just on fucking methamphetamines trying to make himself come to, you know, intense BDS in pornography.

Yeah, and maybe that day he's a part of the sinners and not a part of the saints, sort of, right? Yeah, it is a, but the, who's a part of the sinners and who are part of the saints, you know, it ebbs and flows depending on who's being bad that week. On Wizard and the Bruiser, we find all those crazy little moments in geek history that made the things we love into inescapable cultural behemots. If you love video games, movies, comics, and anime, this is the LPN show for you. But wait, Holden, it's not just educational. Shouldn't we talk about all those crazy boner jokes we make all the time? No, Jake. No, we will not.

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Like, just do it. So where are we going from episode three? That's where I'm at and you guys are on episode six. What is, are there any big, like, oh shit twist or is it just? continuously backstabbing and like goofball, oh yeah, I'm moving in with you because I put my nut in you like an idiot. Your parents problem.

I haven't seen it yet, but the way that they keep talking about, like the way that, I'm just going to say that one bitch, I really can't remember any of their names. I'm very very sorry. They're all boring names. She's one of the blonde ones,

but not one of the main two, but she's like friends with both sides of them and she's really very attractive. but she really hates, maybe it's Macy, she really hates Taylor's husband because of how he talks to her. Yes, yeah, I think, and how he calls her like a bitch and stuff like that, but like not in a fun way.

And she really, really hates him. And I'm wondering if we're going to see any of that because right now we're definitely only seeing the reality television side of it. But this dude, like, slid into her DMs and was just like, I want to put a bunch of children inside of you and she just recently got divorced. So she's like, cool.

Wow, great. Yeah. I just can't. I just, I really think, though, you're right, Holden, I think the idea of like what separates this from the real housewives. And because I've tried, I really have. I really liked real housewives of Salt Lake City. But then, of course, that also had the Mormon.

You like Mormons. Yeah. Your Lane is Mormon in play. I'm so, well, also, sister wives is coming back. like anything that is around, I think I'm just so fascinated by devout organized religion because it's just not what I identify with whatsoever. It's because of the rule set. Yeah.

I was actually just bringing in a weird one, but I just did a whole episode on an anime series called Fate Stay Night and man, you guys are going to love it. We're going to talk about it. No, I'm just kidding. But, you know, the creator of it was like talking about the importance of like creating rule sets. People are drawn to like intense rule sets and then the breaking of those rules. That's what it is. That's why it's there's not enough of there's like rich person etiquette, but money can't buy you. So, you know, there is a little bit of that and there's a lot of bit

of that, but it's in that rich person etiquette way that, you know, you can still be rich and trashy and it's whatever. And I think people are drawn to that. But you're drawn to the fact that it's like, yes, they're not allowed to drink. They're not allowed to be swinging, but they are. For sure, you know what I mean? Or having children out of wedlock or... They are. Yada, yada, yada.

And but they are. And so it's like fun drama in that way. And then it added on to the layer of the Real Housewives like needless drama around a party event format. And I think I totally agree with you, Holden. It's the rule set. It's the breaking of the rule set.

And to me, it's the gender, specifically the gender rule set. There's something about... Because I think that a lot of, you know, women of our generation have found becoming parents to, it kind of stir either the choice to become a parent or the choice to not become a parent. It stirs up a lot of existential stuff, right? Like, well, you know, I want to do what I want to do. And maybe that is become a parent. Maybe it's not become a parent. Maybe I become a parent. And then I struggle with maintaining my identity, all these things, right? And but, but in a group like this where it's just like, becoming a mother is

what you're supposed to do. So none of these women express. any sort of like ambivalence about motherhood. Yeah. And, but they're also very ambitious. And because they live in such a huge community, they actually, like, seem to have, like, pretty good support systems and child. Like, they're able to maintain this, like, since they're all, like, cultivating their own careers, right? They're all career women.

But they identify as mothers. This is the whole, like, trad wife thing, too. It's like, I'm a stay-at-home mother. Right. And you're cultivating a career. all the breadwinners for their family. Yes. So it's like they're breaking these gender norms yet,

whilst also so in them and so adhering to them that they would never even question them. Yeah. And also, like, think about Layla, who was not Mormon, but she was living in, I guess, like Salt Lake City, going to a high school that was predominantly Mormon. So she became Mormon. And now she is 23 with what? Two, three children?

and she's the happiest she's ever been, but I think she wanted the structure of the life. Yeah, she chose it. She chose it. I just like, that, I'm so fascinated. I actually want more about Layla. I'm so fascinating by someone that, like, that you choose it because you want the structure.

You want that community. You want that. You want all of it. There was a time when I was in high school where I asked my parents if I could go to church because all my friends were going to church. And on Wednesday night, nobody could hang out because they were all doing youth group.

And I felt left out. And so I was like, can I go to youth group? And my parents do their credit. We're like, I mean, I guess. But like, you should really think about it before. Like, don't do it just because you're friends are there. My brother had the same thing with young life. Really?

My parents were like, that sounds sketchy as fuck. Just so you know. Yeah. Like, go do your thing. You're free to do whatever. Right. This sounds very manipulative. But I can completely imagine a different path where if I had had like a little bit less of a sense of self

or just a little bit less support in my life that I would have absolutely been chosen a path of like of organized religion because of the community that it provides. And also, yeah, the rule set. Like, it's so nice to have a, to not have to figure it all out yourself to like operate within a set of expectations or a set of beliefs. I find it, I'm fascinated by organized religion for this reason. I also just want to say, I despise the kind of social, like, TikToks they put out. I just fucking hate it.

It's just so annoying. I'm so ready for this to be done. I'm just going to apologize to everybody because you listening to us talking about this, I did not look up anything on my phone about Secret Lives of Worm Wives. I have only been watching it and talking about it. And then on my TikTok, wow, all of a sudden, are they all over my goddamn TikTok feed? And I'm like, every time I see them for a second, I'm like, no, no, I don't want the eye. It does not linger.

not want mom talk on my TikTok. I don't want it. I don't want it. Quote unquote comedy posts or just influencer repost. Their dance posts. I just, I just see it and revile it. Did you get to the part about RIS,

about the Whitney's child having RSV and the video she made when her child had RSV Holden? No. This is like, I am not. I'm not, I'm not even talking about the kid-oriented stuff. You're just like the please God, make us famous. Yeah. And the dances.

and the, now we're in dumpy clothes to music and now we're in sexy clothes to music. It's just, I'm so done with this phase of social media. I think it's so lame and embarrassing. I'm trying so hard to like like it, but I just fucking think it's so lame. It's so like uninspired. Everybody just posts the same shit over and over again.

And they're just hot. And it's like, I think the second we start promoting just hot people, people being hot being the thing, we just, everything loses all like, substance. They're hot and their moms.

At least, like vines were, like, creative and funny and, like, different concepts. Like, they had to keep coming up with, like, new bits.

And sure, sometimes it was kind of hacky and a lot of times it was, but, like, they at least had to, like, come up with something funny and original, where now everyone just copy,

paste the same shit over and over and over again until they get a fucking, an eyeliner company paying the money. I think you're just mad about social media just all of them. TikTok specific. I just, I hate I hate. I re-

fucking absolutely think it's but I get so many good recipes. And Jackie, you get brand deals and I'm not hating that on that at all but at least you put funny words in a thing. But also I get hit up like 10 times a day to do brand deals

and you notice how many I do. Right, right, right. Because I only do them for things I actually use or products I actually like. And you come up with a funny way to put it out there. And, you know, as opposed to just this like vapid fucking, I'm just hot. So all I have to do is a choreographed dance with three of my hot friends. And I'll get a million followers. And then just copy what everyone does. Oh, the new thing is to look dumpy to a song. And then the camera flashes and now I look hot in a fancy. dress over and over again. Holden, I think you would kill those TikToks. I think that you should maybe start investing in them. Kind of like when like the dumpy dudes started doing the hot

tub streams when that became the meta on Twitch. That was very funny. You know, that was actually pretty hilarious. Like the hot tub meta, so they called it on Twitch where it would be like sexy girls of bikinis and hot tubs just hanging out on a Twitch stream. And then all of a sudden there was just an influx of just dudes just with their big guts out like smoking a cigar just being like, what's up guys?

It is a lot of fun. Everybody upset. So, yeah, it is a hate watch for me, dog, but it is a watch for me dog. I will continue to revile this. It is certainly a hate watch. I am so sucked into it. And I'm, yeah, I'm very upset that there's, I actually been like slowly watching it because there's only eight episodes.

And I don't want it to go away because this is the kind of drama, especially religious drama that I crave. Yes. But don't worry, September 15th. Although, oh, that was last, yeah, that was two days ago. Real House was Salt Lake City? No.

No. Sister wives, baby. Oh, Mormon lives. Sister wives. This is a Mormon podcast now. There's also a new season of the circle, which I'm sure we're going to dive into. Now that we have finished, Popstar Academy, Katzai. Katzai has now been fully formed, which is good, because I started seeing tweets of the actual

final group, like, because they're putting shit out. now. I think the cool thing about this as opposed to like American Idol or something like that is you kind of like watch them win and then they just sort of like go away. Whereas Katzai like is a legit girl pop group with like legit power behind them to make them big. And so if you look it up, yeah, Katzai with a K, you'll see the final group unless you don't want it spoiled for you. Uh, and you know, their video touch looks great. But man, guys, I didn't even realize this. I talked about this a little bit last time. Dude, it was a two. It was a two. A two. two-year-long process. And if you made it all the way to the end, I felt so fucking bad for the four girls who made it to the very final, final live show and got cut at the very, very end. Yeah, I couldn't keep going.

Heartbreaking. I just couldn't do it. We were obsessed. I loved it. Yeah, I thought it was amazing. It was so just the choreo, the work that goes into it. it just the intense amount of just, and it's cool.

It's cool to see this group. It's like very different. I mean, it's like an actual international group. And no just like white white girls in it too, which is, well, I guess that's a spoiler. But either way, it's great. And yeah, it's cool. It's like I'll start like following this group. You know what I mean?

But a couple of my faves definitely got in, which is very cool. And, you know, they're just like a legitimate ass pop girl group. I hope they do more stuff like this, although I did feel so bad, again, for the people who dedicated so much of their lives. What's cool is some of the girls who got kicked off and stuff have already started releasing, like, solo stuff. And, like, so I was even thinking I was like, A, why didn't they just make two girl groups? I guess they could only focus on one.

Like, why not just make two and have two? You know, like the runner-up group and the main group. But also, I'm like, dude, those final four girls should just look at each other and be like, let's just keep this, let's just us four go do something, you know. I mean, they've got to do something or else two years of their young lives have been wasted. Crazy, man. So hopefully they get something out of the deal. But it's not a waste because, like, they were in the show.

They were predominantly featured, obviously, if they made it to the end. So they can totally, totally get all the way for sure, you know, or make it like get their own career going. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the point. Well, I hope they do. And you were just watching the cats. like music video, right? Yeah.

Touch. Did they just drop it? So it's like, this is like happening in real time kind of. Yeah, that's what's kind of cool. That's what's really cool about it. Like, like, yeah, they're just like a legit girl group, you know, with a high B or, I hope I'm saying that right. But like a giant K-pop label behind them, which means you're getting a huge push,

like a huge, huge push for you, you know. So it's crazy. I mean, they just like those six girls just. get to just got to, they won that. And then it's like, okay, now my life begins. You know what I mean? Like, now I'm just like in this crazy group. And who knows, maybe they won't explode. But, yeah, I think their first song debut came out June 22nd of this year. And when did this drop? And this dropped a month ago. Touch dropped a month ago. Wow. So, yeah. Okay. Pretty cool. Hell yeah. Yeah. All right, my turn.

I'm going to talk about a show that I thought was new. Sounds like you're delivering a book report right now. For my turn. No, this is debate. Yeah, this is you go up first and then, yes, we'll debate with you, you know, whether you're allowed to keep watching it. Yes. Well, so I totally, you know, I live under a cave and I learn all of my pop culture news here. But I thought it was new, but it's not new.

It's just new to us because there's all these AMC shows are available on Netflix now. which is the same reason that Gidea and I got to see Interview with the Vampire Season 1, because it is an AMC show that is now available just the season one is on Netflix. And Kevin can fuck himself, I thought was a new show. Turns out it's just on Netflix now

and that's why everybody's talking about it. It actually came out in 2021 and 2022. So, but I keep somebody on the Patreon recommended it. There's buzz about it, I think, because more people are watching it now. It's just a great take on an old take. And it goes back to the Apple TV. thing where it's like, I feel like there's all these really good shows, but none of us are watching

the same thing because none of us can afford to have freaking subscriptions to all the things. Yes. So it's just, it's just annoying. But it is basically the premise is it is what if a three camera sitcom, what if you saw the interior life of one of the characters of a three camera sitcom? Specifically, a three camera sitcom in the style of like a king of queens where it's a doofy husband and a hot wife and you see the interior life of the wife. And so it starts, it looks like a three-camera sitcom. The jokes, there's a, there's a, you know, a laugh track. It feels exactly like a sitcom. And what's kind of cool about it is that the sitcom is like not awful to watch, you know, because you wouldn't want to be watching a really bad sitcom. Right. So, but so it's like a,

it's like a pretty funny sitcom, but it also still has to feel. So you're saying, It is like a King of Queens because I feel like earlier you were trying to say it to disparage. I've never seen King of Queens. I never watched it. I mean, I know the deal, but, you know, I never actually. I've seen every episode, I think, 15 times. Really? Oh, yeah. I mean, King of Queens and everybody loves Raymond are like two of my mom's favorite shows.

Okay. And it's definitely those kind of shows that make me think about my mom. So when they were on syndication, I mean, we have. They were on syndication. Everybody loves Raymond and King of Queens. Each would play for an hour every day. So I would watch an hour of King of Queens and then an hour of everybody loves Raymond every day. I was too young to be doing this. Yeah, I'm trying to think of the shows like that for me.

It was different ones. But, you know, Seinfeld, for sure. I watched every day when it got into syndication. Simpsons when it got into syndication. Yep. Those were big, but there were a ton of sitcoms that, like, incredibly, I mean, not to not to offend on this, but pretty forgettable sitcoms that I would just watch ad nauseum.

I can't believe. Again, are you saying, are you pregnant of Queen's and everybody just rain? I can't imagine it. It blows me away how much time I spent watching sitcoms that like I couldn't even tell you a plot of one of them, you know? Yeah.

Like, it just. At least King of Queens has Jerry Stiller in it. And everyone loves Raymond has Peter Boyle in it. Yeah, no, they're, they're totally like on the better end of those things, but they are a formulaic rinse and repeat, you know. Ouch. Ouch. TikTokian.

Ouch. Ouch. So take that formula hold and take that formula. And the first, the pilot is, you know, you see this first scene and the wife comes in and the husband is a, you know, a drunk and he doesn't know how to take care of himself and all that same formulaic stuff. And it looks exactly like a sitcom. And then after, you know, the first scene of that, she goes, she exits to the kitchen.

and then it switches from the three cameras setup to a single camera, like looking like a prestige TV show. And you just see the camera looking at her storming into the kitchen, putting her hands down on the counter, and like she's in a panic. And so you, it's, it, you have these really jarring, rapid switches from you're watching a sitcom to you're watching like a really, really intense, sad, like drama about this woman's inner life. And it is, I think, brilliantly done. We are really enjoying it. And also, it's Annie Murphy. I know. It's about to be like, you're really burying the lead. Yeah, I know. It's Annie Murphy. From Schitt's Creek, Alexis from Schitt's Creek. And so- very happy she's having like a strong follow-up to that because that's always a hard one to get,

move on to another project that like impresses as much as, you know, that big hit show, you started out on. I love her because I really feel like it is so hard to be a very hot and very hilarious woman in Hollywood. It is so... I know every day. I'm like, how difficult is my life? It is so rare to get jobs where you get to be both, right? And I feel like Schitt's Creek was like so she was so funny in Schitt's Creek. And this is not really a funny show, especially. being presenting as a sitcom. But she is such a dynamic actor. Like it's really, she is an app.

She's just one of those actors where she's just like a true pleasure to watch. And it's kind of, it's very fascinating on a kind of domestic, on the marriage like front. Because you kind of see how she reacts to her husband like literally in front of an audience, which is the sitcom. And then how she actually feels like on the inside. Oh, I love that. It is, it is really, it's really interesting. it's really, really well done. It's just, it really, I have enjoying it more than I can't, like, I'm, it's, I'm really,

really enjoying it. So I, again, it's not new. Oh, yeah, but also half hour, right still is sitcom. Half hour, sit. Yes, exactly. Um, I think so, actually. Maybe it's, I actually don't know. I haven't been paying attention because it does.

That's great because you've been enjoying it so much. Because it feels like a prestige drama. Like, with, with these weird sitcom things. interspersed. They're between 42 and 46 minutes. Oh, there you go. So not a half hour. But yeah, so it's really, I really, really recommend it, not new, but kind of having its

moment right now because of being on Netflix. Hell yeah. From AMC. So highly recommend. Dude, thank you so much. Now, I do want to, I want to give a shout out. I believe, I want to say it's Hawk Girl. I know someone from our chat that was really championing a show for me to watch called In

the Eye of the Storm, which is over. on Max. Um, and I, y'all know I love me a storm show. I love me a storm of footage show. And this is taking, because you think many, you know, a lot of footage is taken from a different perspectives now of like a tornado or of like, you know, something insane at, like a, a bomb snow, you know, like they take, everyone's got their own videos of stuff now. But this is like insane footage and there's only like four or five episodes and each one goes into a specific insane weather event and people that specifically went through it.

And it's so good. And man, the first episode, it's just, it talks about this like point in time essentially where for a month they had some of the, like it was just this insane storm cell. was so big, it came back within a month that just was spurning the craziest tornadoes you have ever seen. And this one, there is footage of a, like they were these storm, they were trying to be storm chasers and they're out there and they're young dudes and they're all in this car. And in the car, they have a camera and they go the wrong way while hunting this tornado. And the tornado hits them, this huge, like half a mile long tornado. and there is actual footage of them in the car as the tornado is ripping through as they're screaming, they're praying.

One dude is in the front just like, ah, like, it's great footage. Why would I watch this? It's so cool. Oh, my God, you're not having a panic attack while you watch it? No, I'm just like, no. No, she's like, whoa! Jagger's like, I wonder if the tornado's single. Like, I wonder if you.

I would have sex. with that tornado. So I just wanted to say thank you so much. I know that there's not really a lot to talk about in the world of in the eye of the storm. But if you like those kind of shows, it's a good one. Sometimes you watch storm footage shows and it's a lot of filler. This show is not filler. They kept them short. They kept them tight. And the footage they have is incredible. Wow. Hell yeah. And I do want to definitely bring up.

Now, I was saying this to MJ earlier that I have been really in like, I'm in my blind media era. What am I a Tay? And that is I've been really going to see concerts and movies without movies without watching trailers, concerts without having listened to any of the music. This weekend I did both of those. I went to go see the band called Why, which does like experimental, fun, mushroom-y kind of music. And that was really great. And then the next day, I went to go see my old ass, which is the new Aubrey Plaza movie that was in the theaters. Now, I had not watched a trailer.

I only saw that Aubrey Plaza was in it. And I saw that it had a great rating on Rotten Tomatoes. And I was like, you know what? I just want, I need, I figured, I assumed. It was going to be a comedy. It's not. It is an amazing movie. I have to talk about my old ass.

I'd love it if people went to go see this movie. It's an indie movie that I don't even know if it's playing everywhere. And it is about an 18-year-old does a bunch of mushrooms and she tripped, like does mushrooms for the first. time and is tripping and she meets the 39-year-old version of her. And it starts a relationship, like a friendship between the two of them. And again, I didn't expect to be literally sobbing at the end of this. Like I, and even like, like, I looked like, like, my whole face was swollen as I let, and we saw it in the middle of the day because again, I thought it was just an R-rated comedy. It was so well done.

Aubrey Plaza's in it probably only for like 10 minutes. And what an amazing performance. Really? I like want to start crying just thinking about it. I think it was like it's such a little sleeper, but I love these. I actually was surprised it wasn't an A-24. I love these. I know it's a little weirder than.

your average, like, slice of life. But, like, the actors in it, like, Maisie Stella, who plays younger Elliot, she does it, or they do a great job. And it was just really good writing, really solid acting. And, um, I was really surprised by it. So I don't really want to say much more about it just because check it out. Yeah, it's not, you're, yeah, it's not going to, like, win an Oscar. It's not anything. It's not one of those. It's just, man, really, really. You're, really good. Like, it's what we were talking about wanting to see, like, get more accolades where it's like I feel like a lot of people aren't going to hear about this movie.

And it was just so good. This reminds me, this is, I know this is talking TV, but this reminds me of a book by Leanne Moriarty. We have never read a book. There is a book, one of Leanne Moriarty's books, who's the, you know, kind of mystery bitch I love. She did Big Little Lies and The Husband's Secret. She also has a book called What Alice Forgot.

and the premise is... Have you read what Alice forgot? Yes. Oh, I love that book. I actually reread it after becoming a parrot, but the premise is, I think, on the eve of her 40th birthday, this mom of three loses her memory and basically kind of goes back in time to 10 years ago.

She wakes up and she thinks that she's pregnant with her first child. And so it's like she, it's like she get... After being a 40-year-old mom, of three, she kind of time travels back to what her, like, excited to become a parent, young self was thinking and, like, revisits. So it's not the exact same premise, but it's that it does. No, but yeah, some interplay, you know. Especially being this age and watching it. And I do, I actually feel like this movie, if I was like 15 years younger or 10 years older, I think that this movie would have probably hit, like, slammed me even more. Really? Into the wall? Yeah.

Yeah, like I feel like at least, I was like, as I'm sobbing, I was like, at least like I'm in between these eight. I mean, not the 39 year old, but it is more about like life, life. You know what I mean? And also, like, makes you really think about where you are in your life, makes you think it's just. And what's cool is that the eight, they do kind of play around with the fact that the 18 year old is 18 and 2024. So they play around with what happens in 21 years and what the world is like in 21 years. just in like little random little like yeah as if we could even have three children anymore you know like things like that like it which is just fun and it really in Aubrey Plaza shines

I love her oh yeah I love her especially man even more with the with the finding out she's got the stroke she had a stroke at the age of 20 I know that's that she'd re-learn how to speak and like she's crushing it she's also in Megalopolis which is dropping soon as well and I'm like damn Aubrey Plaza you've been busy bitch the new Francis Ford Coppola do you ever do you think she ever looks at Chris Pat and feels just like so disappointed I hope so you know I hope so we had something together oh god they did and it was magic that was the only time I really loved Chris Pratt man yeah I know it's the last time we could love Chris Pratt I look that's what it is I don't love Chris Pratt I love Andy Dwyer forever and ever yeah all right shall we did you guys

have anything else we good I think we sing the song we gotta get out of here But yes, I'm excited to continue to watch those women suck. It is. Oh, yeah, that's what I was going to bring up. Yeah. Forgetting Sarah Marshall. That's what I also ended up watching because I had never seen forgetting Sarah Marshall.

And like two months ago, I was like, should I rewatch? Should I watch this? And I realized I'd never seen it. And I watched it. And it, yes, there is a hanging dong up top. Yeah. Which is fun. And it also was just a really good rom-com.

Yeah. And it's too bad Russell Brand is so good in it. I know. I know. He's really good in it. But at least he sucks so much. I know. I know.

The character sucks so much. So I think you could at least kind of separate it. I know. And the puppet musical, I mean, is just the greatest. I need more puppet musical. Apparently that was like a real musical too.

Yeah. She wrote the whole end. So I feel like that's what led to, am I a man or am I a Muppet and all that. And the Muppet reboot, which was so great. Yes. So, yeah, I just love it.

I just love the whole thing. So, all right, now we sing the song. Now we sing the song. Thanks everybody for joined and we'll be back next week. Oh, yeah. We're talking TV with MJ Holden and Jackie talking TV. And you know it's going to get wacky. Because everybody knows, everybody knows and everybody knows for watching shows.

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