Page 7 - Talkin' TV - Talkin' Internet

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

This week on Talkin' TV Jackie serenade us in a beautiful theme song solo, MJ is enthralled by the early aught internet safety, Holden has fully embraced his edgy NOT LIKE OTHER GIRLS teen self, MILF Manor this week was BOREO SNOREO, there's a new reality show on the horizon that may prove American reality TV does what Britain reality TV can't, House of Villains continues to pump out the hawt trash, Furiosa has waaaaaay more CGI than expected, Holden continues his journey into Hell with Hazbin Hotel, and Jackie breaks out the weed, diet soda, and Burnout Revenge for the PS2, to get in the Smiling Friends mood and more on this week's Talkin' TV! Married At First Sight (season 15) - NetflixMILF Manor: Season 2 - MaxHouse of Villains - PeacockAshley Madison: Sex, Lies and Scandal - NetflixThe Jinx: The Life and Deaths of Robert Durst Part 2 - MaxxxFuriosa: A Mad Max Saga - the THEATAKingdom of the Planet of the Apes - THEATAHazbin Hotel - Amazon PrimeSmiling Friends - Maxxx Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The special T's song goes out to Stasia who wrote these lyrics just for you, Holden. We're talking TV with Jackie MJ and Holden talking TV where your hopes and brains will fold in because everybody knows he sucks and blows, sucks and blows. But all folks to him are Holden in her hose, holding in her hose. It's talking TV with Jackie MJ and Holden and Holden. And that goes out to you, Holden from Stasia. I love that. Also, in the message they did say, I just want to say, I don't think Holden sucks and blows. It's just, I just wanted to, I think the lyric works. And I do the lyric worked great. You did a great job. And I just want to say it. I appreciate that. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I'm loving it. I'm loving the enthusiasm. I'm so glad we got Talking TV back into.

our, into our feed. I think it's, because there's so much I want to talk about. Yes. I realize how many shows that I had been watching that I never even discussed aloud. I mean, you all know I've watched all, I mean,

currently, I believe 17 seasons of Taskmaster, because there's currently a season that is coming out that the ninth episode just dropped. That's like a forever. Like, if you ever are wondering, like, what do Jackie and Jeff watch all the time?

It is Taskmaster. and for me it's married at first sight. Now I say married at first sight because I had been watching season 17, which is the current episode that came out on Amazon Prime. But that's difficult to watch sometimes because of like Amazon Prime really makes you work for it. But I will say there is Married at First Site season 15,

which happened to be a season that I have not seen yet that just dropped on Netflix. So if there was a time for you to be like, Like Jackie, I'd love to start watching Married at First Site. Maybe start with Married at First Site season 15 over on Netflix because then you don't have to worry about commercials. You don't have to try to like go in between with the after party episodes because it really, I'm sorry.

The recap episodes after every episode annoys me on the Married at First Site on Amazon Prime. You heard it here, hot take. And you know, I want to watch shows like Married at First Site, but what I don't want is to have to face the $2.99 price tag. Do I have to sit there and reckon with myself. Am I a human being who's about to spend $3 to watch this show that I know I'm going to fall asleep in the middle of? And the answer is yes.

But I don't, do I, am I proud? I don't know. And so I think if I can choose to not know that I'm paying to watch Married at First site, even though I'm paying for Netflix, I don't want to have to make that choice. And so that sounds. That sounds terrific. Although I did get a little bit attached to those freaks from season 17,

but I will happily switch over to season 15. I love season 17. But my problem is, is I just, oh, I love, love so much. And I get so excited. I get so invested. And so this season, season 15, is in San Diego. And I'm all aboard because every season, I'm always like, man, these guys are going to work out great.

And sometimes they do. Most oftentimes they don't. But this one, again, and I've said it before, and I will say it till my dying day, that married at first sight for someone that loves, love reality shows. It's my favorite one because it's all based on, like, it is like the old school way of matchmaking. And I am very intrigued by that idea that two people could not know each other and that these experts can be like, but they align perfectly for what they both want. But that's the key,

is do they know what they want and what they need? And it's not a formula. This is the same problem with love is blind. You can't, this is why you can't put love in a chart. You can't, you can't decide, oh, I like the way this person talks, so I'll definitely want to have sex with them when I see their face, which is why love is blind doesn't work because of course physical attraction matters and you just cannot socially engineer the perfect husband for yourself, even if he's perfect on paper, do I want to bone him? Yes or no, you can't matchmake that. But I agree with you, Jackie. It is a fascinating premise for a show. I just think it is hilarious that everyone is trying to like behavior science their way into finding love. And I'm like,

you know what's awesome about love and why every song ever is written about it? Because it can't explain it. It's just can't explain it. It's different every single time. Yes. My kids recently were like, Mama, I've noticed something. Every song is about love. And I was like, you're right. And I was like, maybe we should listen to songs

about broader topics. And they were like, yeah, there's more to life than just loving one person. Have they listened to Lay Miss yet? Maybe I haven't done a lot of late Miss. I've done a little bit of laymiss. But no one's really, aside from me in my house, no one really seems to be in the mood

for like a ballad about war. Well, exactly. Yeah. It's either love or boring, So choose one. Fun, exciting, love, or boring, dumb history. It's not boring. It's not boring.

It is the way that I learned about the French Revolution. I don't know how much is of it is accurate. They were on the streets and the people screamed, can I get a song about that booty? Come on. That juicy, juicy booty, everybody. I'm like rump songs and rump songs only, all right? Just anything that's getting really into the nitty-gritty about what a butt and its whole mean to the people of the world.

So I, can we please talk? No, I am just saying I was also specifically letting you both know that season 15 of Married First Side is on Netflix and doesn't make it easier to watch. That's great. Throwing it out there. That's great.

I, uh, I've wrapped up in other reality though. I mean, are you guys, I feel like this last Melfth Manor was kind of, uh, kind of a whatever. Borough snorro. Yeah. Little Borough snow. We should talk about it. I'm glad that we have Milf Manor, but I think that the executives of the show must have gotten one too many letters about how people were projectile vomiting all over their homes while they were watching it.

But now the show doesn't, doesn't, there's nothing, there's no air in the tires anymore. That's the whole point that I watched. I watched for the disgusting vile. I know. You know? Oh, God, that's right. Okay. So, you know, and then you put in an article, maybe this is more leftover.

I feel like it works here for this verse. Virgin Island show that they're putting out. Okay, everyone. They're putting together a virgin dating show where they're putting a bunch of virgins together to try to get them to bang each other. But then this sounds like a 30-rack joke. All of it. All of it.

But then this is the question is that are these people that desperately want to lose their virginity and haven't had an opportunity yet? Are these people that are scared of losing their virginity? Are these people that like, it's like it depends on how they're coming in the type of virgin the type of virgin they are but then in the article they say that like their families at the end will come together to like celebrate them losing their virginity oh god and that is where it really loses me i mean but i say when i say loses me i mean um loses me like my heart but my spirit is going to watch the fuck when i say it loses me i'll be there but i'll be upset oh i'm going to be there oh i'm going to be watching. I'm going to be upset. My most like, I wasn't even raised Catholic, but I feel like my most Catholic urge is to just not discuss our virginity status. Like I don't want, I'm so uncomfortable by like adults identifying as virgins for some reason. And I don't know why. Again, I want to blame Catholicism.

There's just something that seems so like, it's like a door you walk through. And I don't think that's really a helpful. I mean, maybe these people have just never done any sexy things at all, but it's just such a, it elevates P and V in this weird way. It makes me think about your P or your V. You know what I mean? Like, I just don't, I wish we could just be like I haven't, I don't know. There's something, is that, do you guys feel me or you? How do you? How do you? I feel you, but I, I also am so intrigued by the idea of like, are they going to include people that have decided, and I'm saying outside of religion or outside of trauma for people that choose to be, quote, virgins again. I think there's that world that also I'm intrigued by that, like, if there's a version of that in the show, I'm not.

Uncomfortable. One version of virgin. That's our own show. Now we have a show. It's called version of virgin. This is my thing. This again takes me back. I feel like it's going to go the way of Milf Manor already, right?

And this is why I always say, give me the. the keys to the car, please, one of you fuckers, whatever it is, TLC or Netflix or whatever it is, this is what it should be, okay? At first I thought make it like there's a few secret fuck boys

in the mix, right? Fuck boys, fuck girls, right? That are pretending to be virgins, right? That's like kind of the more obvious conceit. Then I realized this would have been the real kicker. On Virgin Island every week, a new like, group is unleashed on the island for a few days, right?

So one week it's like one week it's like DILFs. One week they release the cougars onto the island. They release the fuckboys onto the island. And you just see how they survive the gauntlet. You know what I mean? Week in and week out, right? And they just like see who gets fucked. That's how we play the game a little bit, right?

But if anything, if anything, come on, at least plant some secret like players in there that are acting like that. and then they have to try to figure out who has, you know, has a crazy body count and who is, like, actually a virgin. And then also they're trying to fuck, you know what I mean? And then you have to, after, if anybody has sex, because of course it's all, like, enthusiastic consent, but after anybody has sex, then you have to do a secret questionnaire. Yes. Maybe this is too hurtful. And you have to guess, virgin or not virgin. That's going to destroy people.

Okay. As I was saying it, I was horrified by the ones coming out of my mind. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's like heroin, dude. It's like I might hit, I need more and more each time, okay? It's like you before your tea break, Jackie. I need a thousand milligrams of reality. That Virgin Island is 50 milligrams.

I mean, it's not enough. I need more. We need to bump it up, man. Yeah, we got to bump up the vileness. That is why, and that is why great transition, because House of Villains is that for me. House of Villains is that. I do love House of Villains.

I just think that it is insane, though, that Channel 4, that the UK has already tried to do Virgin Island, and Channel 4 and, like, they called it intimacy retreat, they couldn't find enough people that were willing to do it. And if the British can't find it, I don't know if we're going to be able to find it. I don't know. Don't you remember what the British boy on Milf Manor said? He was like, I'm a bit of a British boy,

and then I don't like to talk about my feelings. And then they all explode. I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, but then you've got like naked attraction. It's like, but the reality show, I feel like is different over there. Like, I feel like they just have something. They go hard. Yeah.

Yes. They go longer. I'm sorry, Holden. I didn't mean, you're right. House of Villains, though. No, no. I bring up a good point. That's, I love that trivia for sure.

Yeah, so House of Villains, Jackie and I started watching it because we, I waited to get feedback because it was one of those things where I'd have to pay for the season on Amazon. And I was like, I haven't heard really anything. about whether this is good or bad, and we got the feedback. It was enough to say yes. You should definitely check this out. I'm so happy. Lexi and I have found our new like comfort food show at night. We are absolutely in love with this because it's so good because there's so many different types of reality villains. And they are operating at a fucking tin, man. It is so fun. Like New York is such a crazy wild card.

some are like more schemy, some are more backstabby. Others are more just like in your fucking face. Like I'm going to fuck you up. Like do not fuck with me. There's just all these layers of evil operating in this show. And I have to say too, if you're worried about like, oh, well, I don't really watch The Bachelor, so I don't know this person. Doesn't matter. If you know a few, I think it's helpful if you have a few in there like, I'm very glad.

I'm super familiar with Shake, New York. who else I'm familiar with Johnny Bananas just because Johnny Bananas Johnny Bananas has been everywhere Yeah Johnny Vananas is great in this show There's so many Like that was so great

There was a line And Jacks from Vanderpump And you just oh man The second I saw Jacks walk in the house It was like of course he's on house of villains But it's like he is But he's an idiot He's like a certain type of reality villain

That can only exist on a show like Vanderpump And it's like he's Yeah because on my show Like he's always talking about how like His show is better than the other shows. But he's a moron. He sticks out like a sore thumb.

Is they're all way, way, playing 40 chess, everybody except for him, essentially. Yeah, he's like, my life is just to be filmed.

Yeah, my show is just, I just do what I do when someone films it. Yes. Everyone else is like, I've learned to play a game. Yes.

Exactly. Him, him, him, shake is like way over his head, which is hilarious. He has no idea what he's doing. He's just like,

wait, he's like, I know like I'm a, a bad guy, but I'm not like a bad guy. You know what I mean? I was going to say, because Shake didn't mean to be a villain. He's just a massagist. Yeah.

He's just an asshole misogynist who was like, I'm not a bad guy. I don't want to marry. That's not hard enough. That's why he's funny because he can't scheme. He's like, I'm a veterinarian. I don't know what, you know, the Vanderpump rules guy is like, yeah, my wife just sold, like, made a like a multimillion dollar deal with this company and this, that.

He's like, I, I drive a Tesla, but I'm a veterinarian. I don't really know what I'm doing here. Like, it's so funny compared to. Yeah, he's like a guy who wants to be a good guy, but who just, like, doesn't respect women. On Wizard and the Bruiser, we find all those crazy little moments in geek history that made the things we love

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Like, just do it. But also, Jack's is, I will say, is a bad. He's a Batman. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. Oh, oh, for sure. And what? Amorosa is like, um,

what they called in the, like New York's chaotic evil. Amorosa is ordered evil, right? Or whatever you call it. She's very scary. There's like all the versions of evil exist in this show. And everybody's playing everybody. And some are really loud.

Some are really sneaky. The fucking guy from Survivors, such a piece of shit. And I love it. I love it. It's so good. Because that's a thing is that you watch, like, you know, you get so annoyed by the, villain in a season.

And that's why at first was like, I don't know if I want to watch them all being assholes to each other. And then you start watching them all be assholes to each other. And you're like, oh, no, I could watch this forever. And there also are two seasons of it. So we started watching the first season. I can't wait. I'm going to burn through it. I'm loving this. And like, it's just one of those where like there's already tension in this room. Like people are mad at each other, right? They're sitting around the dinner table, but they're being like reserved about it. New York comes down and just start screaming at people for no reason.

And they were like, wait, I thought we were in a lion. So they were in a lion. She's like, fuck you. Fuck you suck. And like just leaves it. Everyone's like, what? It's so fun. Like, it's so crazy.

There's just never a dull moment with these guys. It's awesome. And they're all like, yeah, it's just so funny to watch people who are like really good at fucking people over. Just thrive in that space. I was, one of my favorite was like, Joey Bananas like pull some shit in episode three before he gets like the power. So he gets to fuck people over or whatever,

you know how they do. Like some people get voted off. Some people get put in the vote off space. One person gets chosen to be the like head villain for the week. They're all villains. So you can't take any of what they say. Like if they're trying to like team up with you. Like you can't trust any of them.

But he's and he's even with the people he's in alliance with. He's pulling shady shit to like make certain people look bad and stuff to like throw other people off. And I remember one point like New York screaming at him. Other people are getting pissed off. Like you're fucking. fucking dead to me and like leaving stuff and he's just like sitting there he's like now it feels like a house of villains like like he's like loves it he thrives in that so he like he was like bummed out that it wasn't contentious enough before people weren't fucking and also and what's her name

from 90 day fiancee her whole deal is she's like a gold digger and her that's she's bad at doing it too but that's her whole deal on the show is she's like oh hot like as soon as she needs to get on someone's good side she's all of a sudden the like super tight like work workout clothes come on. She's like, we should hang out more. Her teeth are spilling out of it. Oh my God. And then she looks in the confessional and she's like, I know how to get what I want.

I was like, whoa, I'm scared. It's so good. Like you get every type of villain. And what's the same from love and hip hop is hilarious. He's so fun. The super fashiony gay dude. Yes, he's so fun. I just love it.

This reminds me of years ago when I was teaching. I tried to start something called Girls Club, which was like for all of the kids who are. having like the most like social emotional conflict with each other and I just had them all in a room together and then like within minutes I was like this was a mistake. We should have done one on one stuff because I was just like I noticed the kids are really having like a lot of like interpersonal conflict let's put them all in one room together right and girls club did not last long to figure out a different approach that's what I think I just I love so much about about it is just that it is this is

what to me is so fun and funny about like the reality TV show star or especially the villain. All of them like have so much ego and they hold themselves up to such high regard and if you disrespect them at all they are going to come for you and they're going to fuck your whole world up. But at the

same time they're also completely willing in game to be able to take part of the most degrading tasks and challenges. And so they're all also willing to like push giant balls with their faces on them around an arena to get someone out or like jump into a pool full of like mucus and turds if like they have to to be on the reality show it's this hilarious dichotomy that just cracks me up it's so much fun to watch so

yeah i'm very glad about maybe that's why this week's milf manor was so boring there was no challenge there was no challenge yeah it was just a drama and a nephew on a jet ski i think it's boring because a woman's son is not forced to like smell her freshly worn underwear yeah you know I'm sorry, that was the show. Right now it's just like dads, like, working out their bullshit with their sons and young men dealing with, like, jealousy issues. And I'm just not, it's just not the same.

But also the woman this week there was like, it's crazy because, like, usually I date them young, but maybe I just need an old guy that acts really immature. And it's like, yeah, I guess it's probably, probably need a divorce dad. Yeah, divorced dad is waiting for you, right? There's lots of them. They love it.

Get that uncle. I also feel like it should be an uncle and nephew situation is not the same as a father and son. That, you know, dumb, the self-identified idiot, um, silt, the son was like, he was like, did you guys catch that moment where she was like, you're kind of a ding dog, right? He's like, oh, yeah, I'm real dumb. Oh, yeah. But he was like, it's, uh, it's not fair that they're an uncle. I could get drunk around my uncle, can't get drunk around my dad. I was like, good point, dummy.

That's a great boy. That's not fair. That uncle, there should be a different show for uncles and nephews to get hard together. That is very true. I think the other thing

that's so glaring when you watch House of Villains that I never realize I needed so much. And House of Villains, like, no one gives a fuck. They will just call someone out fast. They will yell at the entire house.

They'll literally tell the whole house to go die in a fire that they're all fucked and they're gonna, like, they don't give a shit. House of no impulse control. Yes. They're so confrontational and insane.

And like the quiet ones are the scariest ones anyways. They're doing the most underhanded shit, like, too. But for the most part, everyone there is like, like, it's just so funny. Like, in any other thing, it'd be like, all right, I have to vote for three of you. So I have to, I hate to do this, but I have to vote for three of you to be in the hot seat to potentially get eliminated. And in this game, it's like they can't believe that anyone would ever in a million years have the audacity to put them in the hot seat. even though it's just one of these eight people or whatever it is.

You're most likely going to have to be a Nazi at some point. They just, it blows their minds that anyone would ever dare to cross them. It's so much fun. And I really can't wait because there is a scene I've seen that I think was donated for for Jack in with the Holdies where I love New York, New York gives Amorosa the business. Yeah. And she tears her a fucking part for being. like a shitty like, like, I believe a shitty like MAGA Trump supporter person.

And it's so good and it's so well done. I love New York. I love watching someone that is good at like dressing somebody down. Yes. I love watching someone. She. She. She.

Ooh, with their words. It just keeps being the situation where like everyone's in a room sitting around a table or sitting around a living room except for New York. And they're all like talking and everything's normal. and then New York comes in for about three minutes. I bet more, it's no more time than that. Let me tell you something. She comes in for three minutes,

completely fucking makes the room complete chaos, and then just like walks away, and just goes back up in her room. It's so fun. It's so fun. Beautiful destruction. All right, I'm in. I didn't get in it this week.

I'm in this, like, talking TV loop where I get your guys's recommendations. Right. And then I go watch them, but then I'm like, oh, shit, I've not coming back to talking, TV with something to recommend because I've just been watching the Ashley Madison documentary and The Jinks Season 2.

And so, but now I'll get in on House of Villas. Let's go. I want your thoughts on the Ashley Madison documentary now that you've seen it. It's cool. I really like it. It's, yeah, I mean, it's fascinating because I remember being just a young, you know, I forgot that it started so early and that there was those commercials in like the aughts when we were still in high school for Ashley Madison on TV.

Oh, yeah. And they were so sexy. It was one of the first like, oh God. the internet is lawless kind of a situation. I've been enjoying the hell out of it. It's been really fun to go back and be like, oh my God, people were just so, it's really just a story of like early internet like different era because it's like

people were so a people were so scandalized in a way that I don't know if they would be if a site like that premiered right now and B there was oh I forgot B oh the privacy thing that everyone was just like yeah I'll just put my real name and my address and my credit card and like that that's insane i mean talking tv talking internet right like people just had a different relationship unbelievable with privacy and the internet

and they trusted it oh you just didn't think you just didn't think i mean i remember when the internet like in 1997 my parents were like never buy anything with a credit card on the internet you know because there was like but then pretty soon it became clear like well that's not gonna that's not what life's going to be like no and so then i think people we just went the opposite way and we're like all right I'll just put my full name into this cheating service. What could go wrong? And yeah, it is fascinating. And they found people on like each side of a marriage to talk about like the choice to join and how it impacted the marriage.

It really is a fact. Holden liked it from the point of view of like looking at like the fidelity and the marriage stuff, which is interesting. And then yeah, to me it was just like what a what a like way to kind of go back and take a little museum like tour of what the internet was like. And it was back when... From 2000 until now and how it has changed. And, you know, we talk about that time, you know, leading up to the Britney Spears' is breakdown and Perez Hilton and, like, how out of pocket the internet got at a certain point.

We're all like, yeah, we're all just... We all get to be shitty here, right? We all just get to laugh at people's, like, downfalls and stuff like that. I will say, though, fuck that. I'm so mad that that, well, I don't want to... I can't spoil anything, I guess, but I shouldn't. But I'm so... I hate that couple.

or at least that guy so much. I mean, the fact that they end up being like YouTube family influencers makes so much sense. But yeah, I definitely thought about because I was like, I actually was smoking a J out on my balcony. Like, I just really remember this

and just thinking like, because I've never cheated on someone, but if I were to, it's pretty obvious to like not leave any kind of paper trail, much less setting up an online account. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I don't know.

I'm just like two on top of this kind of thing. But if I were to do anything like this, if there was a text chain, it would be immediately deleted every single, after every single conversation. That's what I would be so bad at. That's why I know, like, I'm already not a cheater,

but like I would be so bad at cleaning up my evidence. Yeah, nothing in writing. Nothing in writing, much less an online account in a database. You fucking morons, that's the craziest thing. I've ever, people who just so get, but people get flagrant. They get comfortable and they get flagrant. And they want to get caught.

I think most of them. I think deep down they want to get caught because they're in an unhappy marriage and they actually just want to burn it to the ground deep down. So, you know, it is what it is. But yeah, it blows my mind when if you're going to do something so awful and insane and, you know, whatever, then, you know, unless you truly do just want the relationship to end and this is just your way of brute forcing that to happen. you know and I totally get that totally happens with people I just I cannot believe anyone would would be like yeah I should like have entire a full online profile and entire you know an entire system of or an entire database of messages back and forth between people and everything so anyways and before you get into while we're still at least talking about documentary in the reality sense before you get into the jinx part two I do want to bring up the fact that Danielle I want to say thank you so much for some

sending in this email that last week we were talking about how Jojo Siwa should really be in a boot camp survival type. We did. We threatened to send her into the wilderness. Don't worry she's already been. Danielle rode in to tell us about special forces, which is a reality TV show that Jojo Siwa last year was on where she was forced to do boot camp survival challenges. I've been wanting to watch this. I've been wanting to watch this. They do like straight up like,

they do like, they do like fucking Navy SEALs type shit with like these, you know, celebrities and stuff. It's kind of insane. It is called Special Forces World's Toughest Test. Apparently Tom from Vanderpump is on it.

Tara Reed is in it. There's just a, I don't know. I don't usually like to watch the shows where I'm just like, watch I'm Safa. You know, I'm more in the love. reality frame of mind.

But I'd watch a couple of episodes. This is crazy. I guess I'm going to boot camp. You guys will be pleased to know any long time, long time page seven listeners. And I might remember that my old cats, Manface and Saraphina, we had like, developed, we took years to develop their voice,

you know, so that if they were doing something, Manface had a voice that was like, ooh, manface's going to go, look at that mouse. And then Sarapina had a voice was like, how dare you? And we have now realized. realize that Loveheart's voice, my new cat, is JoJo Siwa. She's just like, yeah, you guys want to hang out?

Hey, what you do? I'm going to sit out. Oh, okay. You try to sleep? It's 4.3 in the morning. What's you got to do it? What's going to do it? Send that cat to a boot camp.

So I thank you for the Jojo Siwa voice for many reasons. And one is that it's also my cat. So funny. So we got to check it out. But now how did you end up finishing? Apparently, Jinks Part 2, like, is great. It's great. It ends.

It ends like. It's like, it's the way. apparently. Yeah, it's awesome. It is absolutely terrific. I highly recommend it to anybody who enjoyed season one. But yeah, Jackie, you got to tell us about Furioso.

Oh, Furioso is great. So we were talking about this on the big show, but this show comes out first. So we were discussing a little bit into, a lot of the ire online about the new Furioso movie, which is, again, the next movie in the Mad Max world, is that there was two months. much CGI. When we all know Fury Road, Holden, obviously, you know way more about this than I do.

Fury Road was like obnoxiously practical. Like there was so much practical as it possibly could be. Yeah, it was really impressed, really a feat of modern movie making, like what was going on. So that is not the case when it comes to this movie, which George Miller used a lot of CGI. But also you got to remember, he's 79 years old. Let's like think about George Miller for a second here. It's like, I mean, not that he's going to be the B. All and all of all of those decisions, but like, you know, they

needed to be a lot of CGI in it. I feel like there also was a lot of extra that didn't need to necessarily be there, but I guess it depends on your own vision. I really enjoyed it, but this movie, it was two and a half hours long, and yet it

still seemed rushed. Really? There was too much movie in one movie. Uh-huh. that like by the time, I felt that by the time the end came around, they kind of just like, wrapped it up real fast. When I was like, guys, you really could. I felt like this could have been two movies. Really?

I think that there was enough, like, that they were shoving into the lore of Furiosa. So one thing to remember, like, one thing people should know going into this is it's not Fury Road. Fury Road is the, like, opposite, actually, in terms of it is a, like, one very basic simple concept of this like battle happening on a like road chase. Like it's the whole idea is that it would be this incredibly paired down thing. Whereas Furiosa is a story. Multiple. It's like episodic.

It's, um, it's sprawling. It's not, you know, Fury Road takes place over like one day essentially, I think, like one 24 hour period essentially. And that is not the case. Yeah. This is over several years. Yeah. And so I.

didn't look that much into Furiosa. I was just like, fuck yeah, I love Fury Road, ready to go. So I was not aware of the fact that this was more of like a movie movie rather than just like insane awesome battles, which is what I had like prepared myself for. So I also think that that's why I'm coming at it from this angle because I very much enjoyed the movie, but I think if I had known that it wasn't just like insane action sequences, I would feel differently about the movie now. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I can totally see that. Yeah, and I think that's what a lot of the backlash is that I've seen online for the... I've seen plenty of people who love it, and I also see people like... But it is great. Definitely go see it. Yeah, yeah.

I'm very excited to see it. And we saw it in like the Dolby. Like we got like a friend of ours got us the tickets the second they became available. So we were like in the middle section, in the best way you could see a movie theater in the movie. So like seeing it like that with like the seats rumbling and like it, man, it really brings you into it. Ooh. Ooh. I love the movie theaters. I mean, in a very different way, we also

went to go see Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Oh, your ape saga continues. Our ape saga has finally come to an end for now. And that was another movie that could have been multiple movies that they tried to shut, but like it's, I only say it's interesting watching them like back to back in movie theater experiences because like, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is a good movie, but also trying way too much, also trying to shut, but I like the fact that they're trying to like, what if there are other stories inside of the world of the planet of the apes, which is where they're moving to now? Very interested in seeing that. The monkey acting is incredible.

I can't, you can't take your damn eyes off these monkeys, but I didn't feel that it was as cohesive as Furiosa was. Like I think that Furiosa, I think they had a lot of similar issues, but Furiosa was

much better in, as a whole. Okay. Sorry, was that too much of, no, it's our interview about movies. It's our go to the theater, theater report from Jackie. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

That was a go to the movie theater, theater report. Absolutely. I'm just excited because when the TV glows, I don't know, we're going to see some other movie. I saw the TV glow, I think is what it's called. It's an A24 movie. So I'll tell you about that next week. And just real quick, I'll wrap the things up here. I just, now that I'm fully in, I just want to just say the world, I am a 16 year old girl and a little bit of an edgy one. I am absolutely in love with Hasbin Hotel. I've been watching the shit. It's only eight episodes.

but I'm a dad, so life gets slow. You better catch up fast. But I'm going to probably finish it tonight and then start watching Hell of a Boss, which is Vizipop's YouTube animated series, set in the same world, Vizip or whatever is their name. It's a crazy story.

It's an incredible story. They are totally homegrown. They are completely DIY. The pilot for a Hasman Hotel was funded by Patreon. And then A-24 picked up on the fact that it was just extremely popular on YouTube and it's on TV. Because Lexi, at one point was like,

who made this? Like, what is, like, because it's so dirty. It's got incredible. There's even, like, an essay warning for the fourth episode. It's incredibly filthy. It's incredible. And it gets criticism for, like,

relying too much on, like, on, like, F bombs and stuff for comedy or whatever. It's, it's also, I love the music in it. Like, I think it's so, especially compared to more recent musical, I've seen like Wonka. I like love the the musical numbers in the show. I love the aesthetic. I really like the overarching plot. It's like essentially like a war between heaven and hell,

you know, and kind of doing that whole thing where it's like maybe heaven's also not as good as we think it might be, you know, that kind of thing. But it's about a hotel trying to redeem souls and try to get them up to heaven. Because at the current state of the show, angels come down from heaven and exterminate all of the lost souls of hell, like once a year because of overpopulation. So it's the princess of hell, Lucifer's daughter, who opens up this hotel to try to, like, redeem the lost souls and get souls up to heaven. It's like really, it's just all over the map. It's like both incredibly like invadersim piled, but then also like great musical numbers, then also like this really dark, like, like fucked up, you know,

a story based and centered in hell and dealing with souls and people tortured by the mistakes they've made or like the things that they've gotten themselves involved in. It's fucking crazy. Which I find, I think it's all very interesting, especially when, like, and I do want to say, just give a shout out to Ali

who was not trying to yuck our yums to, that did alert us of the creators difficult and very questionable ideas and beliefs that they put out there. unfortunately, which is very surprising for someone that is creating such cool, different, unique television. There's controversy. It's very sad.

I think that, like, this person would be this way. And I just want to say, thank you, Ollie, for letting us know that this is happening that, like, that often, it's often containing trans and non-binary characters in a questionable slash fetishized way for a reason, unfortunately. Oh, okay. And it is, so it's like, it's. It sucks, though, because, like, this is also, I watched, like, four episodes of it before reading this email. And I know, Holden, you didn't see this email because I've just-

I know there's controversy. I knew there was controversy. I knew there was controversy. Yeah. And it sucks. And I just, we would be remiss to not bring up the fact that there is controversy around the creator. And it sucks when they're making such cool, new, different, fun ideas. Where it's like, can't you just let, why do you have to be a piece of shit?

Let us love your work, damn it. Yeah, yeah, totally. I know, I just wish artists wouldn't talk on social media ever. And that is the problem. And with this person specifically, too, and I have to all dig more into that stuff. But I know they have nobody controlling their, like, PR presence, and they're clearly not.

Oh, so they're just let loose to be able to. They're not media trained at all. Like, they're engaging way too much in, like, people criticizing the show on a level you're not supposed to do. If you're, like, at this point in your career, that kind of stuff. They're just not media trained at all. So hopefully hopefully that stuff could come back around and resolve

a little bit. Yeah, I hope so. Yeah, we don't have to put them in the house of villains yet. Yes. Although New York is there and waiting to dress them down and I would watch it happen, baby. And I also, in a, not in a similar way, but in an adult swim kind of way, we've been watching smiling friends because I heard that it was this

show, the second season is currently coming out. And it is an adult swim show that's over on Max, and they're making other fun, weird shit. And we race through the first season in one sitting. And we're just starting the second season that's currently coming out. So if you, you know, want to smoke a J-Bone at the end of the night and watch something that's weird and just definitely not for everybody, it's weird. And it's got, It uses like different mediums. It's very, it's interesting. Check it out.

All right. Let's know if you like it. Hell yeah. All right. Well, I guess we'll sing the regular song. Let's do it. All right, I'm ready. But thank you, Stasia.

And thank you everybody else for hanging out with us today. Hell yeah. Talk to TV with MJ Holden and Jackie talking TV. And you know it's going to be wacky. Because everybody knows and everybody knows. Everybody knows we're talking shows. I'm talking TV. We're talking to TV.

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