Page 7 - Talkin' TV - The Tortured Lovers Poets Department

Episode Date: April 24, 2024

This week Holden scuttles up some spaget and BLOCKS MJ ALL FOR THE CIRCLE (JK they'll be back next week) while Jackie preps herself for the horrors of another stay in MILF Manor as a new season approaches.  The Circle Season 6 - NetflixX-Men '97 - MaxThe First Omen - IN THE THEATAHSCivil War - in the THEATAHSBaby Reindeer - Netflix Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

With Holden and Jackie talking TV And you know it's going to get wacky Everybody knows what everybody knows Everybody knows. Everybody knows. We're watching shows. We're watching shows. Talking TV with Holden and Jackie No MJ today. But I think you could tell from the song. MJ's getting passed over, bro. Passed right over them.

Yeah, which I guess is some kind of pass over some kind of couple's orgy party. What's going? Oh, no, I believe it's a Jewish holl. No, no, you know, they do what they do. You know, once the Manashevitz comes out, we don't know what's going to happen. I'm excited, though, even though we can't get MJ's input on the circle yet, which means we're going to get even more input from MJ next week about the circle. How are we feeling about the circle so far, everybody?

Oh, my God, it is the new. First of all, the Circle has single-handedly saved my marriage. Yeah. No, I'm just kidding about that. but we had a revelation. Like I started being like, hey, every now and again, it's really important for me to like make a really nice dinner for my gal, you know, unless we have plans to go out,

but it's usually with the kid, it's, you know, make a really nice dinner. And then, you know, have a focus kind of couple night. We hang out and like watch stuff all night together and stuff like that. And then I was like, this Wednesday, Alexi, I'm making you a big ass fucking bowl of pasta. And we're going to sit and we're going to have a good spaghetti. and we're going to binge the fuck out of the circle.

And then we were like, feeling so good about it and around it and doing it and then after it that now we're like, why don't we do this every Wednesday? And for the next few Wednesdays, we have the circle drops. So we get to binge the circle. But it's turning into a new tradition that I am here for. Well, by the time the circle's done,

you'll be able to start binging Milf Manor. Oh, thank God. So don't worry, you'll have something else. Hell, yeah. I mean, I hope they learned some lessons, though, from the last season of Milf Manor. I truly did. Alert, alert.

We're like in the circle. Everyone needs to know that Milf Manor season two starts this Sunday. Jackie, I have concerns about Milf Manor season two circle sin. Whoa. Whoa. What do you mean? It was perfect out the gate. Perfect show.

Wow. What a show. It was. The fact that I watched every single episode of Milf Manor last year, don't know how I did. I, but I did. As we all know, I literally no show has ever made me rise. in bed, out of laughter and disgust. I was writhing.

I can't even describe any other way off of those first few episodes. I literally was like, I couldn't handle it. It was like, this is the best disgusting, upsetting. Just, it was like when human centipede dropped for the first time. And everybody was like, wow, we've reached like a new low. Like we've really hit a new low in entertainment. And like that's definitely how I felt. And I was so-

Human centipede is a low in entertainment. Come on. I was so here for Milf Manor. But man, I couldn't believe how they like, it was almost like they actively tried to make it boring in the end. You know, it was like, they lost steam. Also, I feel like, like when made it so gross was the boys were such boys and really like I did. But I feel like they need some sharks in there or something. You know what I mean? I feel like they need to get.

You mean like shark tank? Like, yeah. I mean real sharks. honestly would be great if they could date the milfs. But no, more like they need some suave players sons in there. Because I remember that was a bit of an issue because it was like so unrealistic.

Like every time people were getting together on that show was like this just looks wrong. This just looks like it doesn't match up. Like the kids acting too young. The mom's like clearly doing her best to try to be into a romantic name. notion with them, but it's not, it's just so, they have no game. We need, we need a little more of that going on.

It is interesting because for Milf Manor, they have released the cast of the Milfs, but they have not released the cast of the young people. Okay. So it is possible that it is different this time around. I don't know what they're going to do. Is this, wait, wait, is this, hold on, hold on, am I looking at the right one? So they brought her back? They brought one back.

right? Christina. I don't think so. She looks familiar. I thought she was in season one. These are some milfass milfs though. I will say that. They are looking good. I love a Barbie with a Y.

They're looking good but they're looking like moms but they look like more. There's a couple of questionable ones but yeah, they're looking. Oh yeah, what about Jamie? Maybe it's Jamie. I'm calling her Jamie though. I'm calling her jammy.

All right. Jamie looks like a lot, bro. She looks like, I don't know. Maybe it's the eye makeup. She has the kind of eye makeup. but just looks like she gave herself two black eyes. She does. She kind of does.

She looks like a fucking raccoon or something. I don't know what's going on. That's a weird move. That's a weird move, but we don't know. What era of makeup is that? Is that 80s? I don't know what that is. I don't know.

I think maybe she fell onto a makeup palette and just happened to smear across her face. I'm so curious to see what Jammie's bag is and how young she wants to bag them. Yeah, for sure. It's one of those things, too. There's a quote from Lynette, which is one of the milfs.

It says, dating younger men makes me feel playful. And the sex is like, wow. Is the sex like, wow? Right. Is it? And then the sex is like, wow, one would think, well, I will say, I feel like a lot of women get better in bed as they get older, but sometimes men kind of decline as they get older.

They become sleepier Stevens, you know what I mean? They become little sloppy Stanleys. So maybe that's why the sex is better, because they still want it at that age, quote unquote? Yeah, I don't know. I think maybe just because, yeah, they could at least, this is the thing. Yes, you're going to get sort of,

just sort of like drilled for the first go of it. But then they get their first comes out. And the thing is, they're young, so they can get another come out or two or three, even in a full day. Oh, yeah, they're busting them. And after that, then you can start teaching them stuff, right? So this is the thing.

You kind of have to let them just, just kind of, oh, all right, okay, okay, you know what I mean? You got to kind of have to let them just do that once. You have to, but then while you're doing that as someone that has slept with a younger man before, you have to take a tally in your brain of what you have to teach them. Yes. Later on, I'll be like, oh, not like that. Don't do that.

All right, let's talk about this for a second. Then you can get them into that. Maybe they need a nap after or not, but then they, but probably not because they're younger. And then you can get them in that kind of sex haze where it's, It's like, yeah, we're not like just having the one time. We're doing this quite a bit over hours. You know what I mean? We're just going to like sit here.

You can play on your switch during off times. You know what I mean? During off times. But then we're back in. You sound like a Disney employee. It is. It is very similar. I do love that this one article, though, is saying that what is the twist going to be?

And they've offered up, is it possible that they've bringing in another group of much younger women to compete with the milfs, which that, I think, would get real weird, real fast. Yes. And another option is it possibly bringing in the milfs all of their ex-husbands? That would be interesting. I mean, that just reminds me, though,

of like the family episodes, but I've seen some good versions of that. They brought for Rock of Love, they brought in the exes for the, like, trashy girls in the house or whatever, and that was hilarious, because their exes were so ridiculous. Like, just looked like a complete idiot. you know what he mean?

Man. Jammy looks like a nightmare dressed like a nightmare, by the way. Jammy is a nightmare dress like a nightmare. It is so bad. I'm throwing it out. I'm throwing out bombs, y'all. Sorry, got to do it. What is happening with Jamby?

I mean, I've never seen such, like, no way vibes given off in a single picture, but I am immediately like, I don't know, dude. I don't know, dude. I don't, I hope she does. And I hope she, like, ends up, like, sucking all their dicks. something or being crazy. Also, by the way, for everyone that is, like, wondering, look up J-A-M-I, Milk Manor Season 2.

Just because this one, it is definitely Jamie, but I'm gonna call it Jamie. It's really spelled like jammy. This one picture is just not doing her. It's on people. Any service. She looks. It's the worst picture.

I mean, her abs look great. She looks like she is like a cocktail waiter at the, like, very end of the Vegas strip. Like the last casino. I don't mean, the colostomy bag casino. And she, like, smokes on the job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She, like, smokes on the job.

Although, aren't they all hot women that work at that? I've never been to the heart attack cafe, but it's all, like, hot women dressers. Maybe. I haven't been to the heart attack. But no, no, no, whatever that casino was, we ended up at at the very end of our trip. And it was just like the guy with the fucking IV bag or whatever, the oxygen right by the bathroom, because then he needs the slot machine. Is he still smoking?

Yep. And he needs the slot machine right by the bathroom because either. it's lucky to him or it's just because the bathroom's right there. I'm not sure which, but anyways, it was, it was, um, it was wonderful. I, I'm excited. I'm interested to see, yeah, Lexi's reaction to Vegas. It really is, for a first time, it can really just be, um, it's so much. It just can be so fucking much. But anyways, let's get off of that and back on the circle where we started. Sorry, back on the circle. Yeah, I didn't mean to talk about Milf Manor for so long. I just saw it in the middle of the night last night and I texted Holden and M. It was like, it's coming.

back. Yeah, it's great. I can't believe it's coming back for season two. Like, I really can't believe that they're doing a season two of it. I'm very thrilled, very thrilled. Um, so yeah, so, so let's get on circle, uh, season, what is it? Circle Send, season six. So Circle Season six has, has a conceit that I think at first, I was like, oh no. And, you know what's funny now? I, this, we need a German word for this. what's funny now is I don't get upset because I think I might get upset by it I get upset because I think it's going to like make all these other people upset

and then I can't like enjoy it as much and in this one it's because That's anxiety, Holden. I guess but I just feel like we live in a world but as influencers not influencers as people who do content online with like communities around it and stuff like that

you know there's these little like sticky points that are hard, that make you go like, oh, fuck, because I'm not offended by it or upset, but, you know, AI is a tricky thing right now, okay? Oh, yes.

AI is weird. AI puts a bad taste in people's jobs. It's like stealing a lot of work. Like, it's doing a lot of bad things, but I also don't know anything about AI. So I imagine it's also doing lots of good things. I feel like it's an inevitable, like. I'm not bright, y'all.

I don't know if you've guessed this yet. All right. Let's break down AI a little bit. It's an inevitable evil. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's this thing that's like, or at least, let me refrain that. It could be used probably for a lot of good, but it's definitely a thing that's going to like shake things up and fuck things up.

I know we're going to need a lot more rules in the future. Yeah, like everyone's kind of trying to figure out how it works. And yes, some people are like violently angry about it. I think especially artists who are afraid their works are going to get stolen or their job's going to go replaced or yeah. I think it's also there's just a weird dread. around it because I love being an audiobook narrator and already how many audiobook narrator's jobs are being taken

by AI and it's just going the way the dodo it's just going it's the kind of thing that removes jobs from people and the worst is when that hits at least for I think more for us and people like it hits creative jobs it gets really rough because you're just and you don't want to live in a world where like I already am feeling like

bogged down by how formulaic all of our like all these like superhero movies and star wars movies are to to be kind of pushing more towards that kind of and you know entertainment as our general content makes me feel likey but but the range is the gamut some people there's people who are violently mad about it and there's other people who think it's like interesting and do stuff with it for funzies right now so you brought this up because they brought in an AI contested yes on the circle And at first I was like, oh, no, first of all, because I was like, is this, like, I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to like this or not just in general.

And then also, I'm like, oh, great, too. Is the circle not going to become some target of, like, hate online because they're using AI? Especially because I think I feel you, I also feel you as well because I think that we're both so sensitive about, like, this show because it is just dumb fun. Yes. And it's like, don't make it anything else. Can we just, I just want it to be a show that I literally shut my brain off. And I do not think about anything while I watch this show. It's like the circle now with NFTs and you're like, no, don't ruin my fun thing that's dumb and fun.

But yeah, AI, I have to like, I mean, I have to like look more into this because it seems like the AI, quote unquote, is more like maybe a team of writers. I don't see it. It's got to be written lines, right? I think, right, I think it's sort of, but I have to look. Do we have connections to Michelle Butow? Can we get to her? Yeah, can we find out if this is really like any, any of this is actually AI? I don't think it is.

I think it's like people, you know, it's the people who have worked, been working on the show up until now who understand all the strategies and stuff like that get together and like write as this AI, you know? Kind of like the fucking too ought to handle robot lady is written by people and voiced by, you know what I mean? It's not like an actual fucking robot. But also, I would assume that someone, like that, I don't know. Because in my head, I'm like, oh, a human must be writing the, like, sending out the text that they're saying, right? But I guess they're not. But then they have to be able to interact.

I don't understand. I don't know. Okay, here we go. But what I like is that the AI is, like, genuinely doing a very good job of acting like a human, which inevitably. is very scary. Hello, Ed Larson and Amber Nelson from the Brider Side here to check in with you. See how you're doing. Is your day more disappointing than a gas station sandwich?

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about the other players besides what they choose to share in the game, and he'll be acting on his own without the interference of producers to establish genuine connections. I still don't get it. And then there's like an interview with Max. How is the AI chatbot created? While bringing in an AI twist of the game was an exciting prospect. I was a conscious of staying within the world of the game. We're not black mirror The Circles of Fudge show, that's funny. But it still throws a lot of questions. Scheme began exploring various chat-based platforms.

All right, I'm going to look more into this. I guess this really is a chat bot that was trained before going into the game. Wow. And I'm going to look more into this. It said that it had researched all the previous seasons of the circle, which, I mean, I guess don't all the contestants? Yeah, yeah.

If you think about it? Also, can I just say out the gate, hated. Miles hated them. Now I kind of like them. Which one was Miles? Miles is the AI engineer. Oh. The robot dude.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's what his name is. I thought it was Max. But anyways. No, no, no, the AI dude is Max. I went to another, Miles, the other dude. I hated him at first, but then I ended up like that. Got you got.

Yeah, yeah, him, that guy. The guy I liked when he was answering all the questions in the honest way and everyone was trying to play the game. and I was like, I actually liked him through that. Me too. Whereas everyone else was like, I don't know about the guy. I was like, he's the one guy answering honestly in these fucking questions.

But the cool twist of the AI is that they, and spoiler alert for the circle, but I think it actually will make you want to watch it more. Also, by the way, it's only the first four episodes. So it's not that much of a spoiler. It's only the first four episodes. They tell them within the first like three or four episodes that there is an AI as one of the contestants,

then it gets really fun. Because, you know, everyone's trying to get, the fucking circle now. And everyone, like, kind of knows how to work it. This was the perfect way to get people. Because even though they're not actually AI, and it's hilarious the people people think is AI. Like, that's got to be AI.

It turns into a game of Werewuf. It turns to a game of Secret Idler or Mafio or whatever. And it's so fun, man. Although, yeah. Again, that one girl that, like, they all go after, I was like, I would be sobbing. Like, I'm not made for the circle. I don't have, I don't have the emotional strength

to be able to hang, like, if everyone came after me like that, I'd be a mess. Who did they go after, too? Stephie, the horoscope girl. The horoscope, yeah, she would, and I get how you would think she was AI, for sure. But at least, and I feel like she's actually more genuine than some of the others, but it's fun.

See, I think the only thing, the only crime that she is guilty of is being borough fucking snorrow. Set it. Right. I think that's really what it is. Get rid of her. Out of here, you're not fun enough to watch. They just don't like, uh,

you know, people hate astrology. You know what I mean? Or like new age people. What's that girl who does the annoying rapping that everyone likes to post online these days? It looks like insane. She has got all the crazy hair and like, but she's got like big tits and she's hot,

but she dresses like she lives in her name. I think our eyes it lingers on different things, but then. People are constantly posting this lady and just be like, this is the worst thing on the planet. And she's like, I like to hear my mind. I'm elevated all the time.

Like she like does like that kind of thing. and it's awful. Yeah, she's like that. People hate that. You know who kind of annoys me, though? The dude that is catfishing as Borough-Snoro-O-Livia, he also was annoying. I was like, I wanted to like him at first.

I love out there like, that guy's AI, for sure. Because he's doing all this bullshit, and it's so obvious. So at least you don't have to be like you're an imposter. You can be like, the imposters are getting kind of, are starting to kind of like almost tell on themselves with the conceit of are they or are they not AI? An AI.

You know? It adds a fun element. Because you know what? You know what? No one's saying about Miles. He's AI. Right. No one's saying Miles is AI.

Yeah. He's being a real ass dude. And we've forgotten that like being a real person is like, can be a good thing. I get it. It's the circle. So everyone just acts so phony. And that's the whole point. It's social media.

You're presenting like the best version of yourself. You're, you're even framing your sob story in this like very perfect way to like get the most, you know, empathy from everybody and all this kind of stuff. Of course. Adding the, I also feel like breaks up a little bit of the like of that up a little bit. Because now people kind of need to give off like, hey, I'm also real. Like I'm trying to charm you and be all these things, but I'm also a real. But then they have to be genuine.

Yeah. I think it's cool. Or else they come off as fake. Which is why I want to see more from Cassie, the sexy mom, the like blonde southern sexy mom. Yeah, I want to see more from her too. I like her. I want to see more from her. I like her vibe, you know, for sure.

I like, I like, Brandon's so sweet. When he cries in the first episode is so sweet. He's like you. That's what you would do. You would like cry in the first episode. But he's annoying. I think he's annoying. I don't know.

Yes. I think he's, I think he's all right. He just needs to like step it up. He's not, I think he thought he was going to be way better at this. He's not good at it. Yeah, yeah. Whereas Corey Tyler's is very good. Dude, QT is killing the game.

And I feel like, Lauren every five minutes, Lexi's just like, oh, are you in love with her? You must be in love with her. I was going to ask you that. How do you feel about Lauren? She's cute. I'm surprised I don't recognize her. Let me see.

Lauren the Circle. I wonder why she stopped doing Twitch, too. Lauren Twitch. Oh, okay, there you go. First thing. She said she's Twitchery. We can't find anything on her. Info out there.

I'm curious why she stopped Twitch as well. I get the vibe. Sounds like a fun. Lauren used to be a Twitch streamer. She was super fun to watch and actually streamed full time at one point. She does not stream anymore, but I know she will be making YouTube content and switching over to that platform. Twitch takes too much money from their streamers, okay, is what they're saying. Gotcha.

Oh, wow, and then this is the beauty of Reddit. This is why you don't go into the red comments about you, okay? She's so annoying and not funny at all. She's so cringe and bothers me so much. She's just a nice, she just seems like a nice person. Can't stand that girl looking forward to her to be blocked. It's a nightmare. Comments are nightmare.

Who talks about someone like that? She makes you that upset. I mean, I did just say Stephanie was Boros-Norra, which in Jackie Knees is a very, is a mean. It's a mean thing to say. But I just, this is so mean for no reason. I, um, I can't imagine doing that. But you know, everyone's got different time in their day.

She's also legit. And then the next person being like, I don't buy her video game thing. It's like, when the guy asked if she's Xbox or PlayStation, she's like, uh, dog, I fucking play, I'm a PC game. Like, yeah, I fuck with PC. which means she... She's a gamer. She plays games.

Yeah, she plays games. She plays the games. Leave her alone. I think Lauren's great. I think Lauren's really charming. I think she's got a good mix of like she's got kind of a Twitch streamer mix, right? Of like she's charming and she's, you know, but she also... Nerdy, cute, but she can talk and...

But she's also real enough to not be like, you're full of shit. You know what you mean? Yeah. Like whatever. It was sad when I got to the last episode a couple days ago, I was just like, I know. I'm so used to them dropping like six or eight episodes at a time. I was like, that's it. That's all I get.

You're stretching this out for weeks. And for once, I'm like super able to, you know, dive way in. And of course. Well, then I do hope that this week you start watching X-Men 97. Yeah, I got to get into it, man. Bro. Uh-oh, oh, oh. Now, I need to say, I am not actually.

hashtag nerd girl, even though, you know, I've got bits of cards of a nerd girl, but as a whole, not usually. One thing I did grow up on was X-Men. That was the one, like I was, it was a huge sexual awakening for me in every respect. I think that literally X-Men is most of the reason why I was able to identify that I had queer thoughts in my head. And it was because of X-Men. I love the X-Men. And I was excited for this show to come. come out and Jeff started watching it without me and it was like, I want to watch that show. So we watched the first couple of episodes and then he went back and we rewatch them. There's only six episodes out. Holden. It's so good. I know. I've heard amazing things.

It's so funny because, I mean, I used to watch the original cartoon religiously. Yes. It was my favorite. I would look forward to it every week and it was a big deal for me when I was a kid. So it's funny that I haven't gotten there yet, but I just haven't gotten there. I can't believe what they are doing in this series because I never read the comic books. Jeff, of course, has read all the comic books. So, like, I know that, like, what, let's just say this last episode ended on a cliffhanger

and the episodes are currently still coming out. There's 10 episodes. And I screeched. I couldn't believe that there wasn't more for me to watch. And it's so horny. and well written, and it's all the original voice actors, and it's just if you watched X-Men as a child, it just gives you everything you want.

Yeah. You gonna cry. Yeah. I'm in. I'm here for it. What a weird world we're in, that you're more caught up on this. I was so excited.

I love it. I thought that it was going to, I thought that it was going to like, I was like, oh, it's just going to be a great show that I love to watch. It's going to be all nostalgia. And it really was cut to two hours later. me just be like, that's awesome.

It's great. All right, what else? You said he had a bunch for me. Lay it on me. Well, I don't have a bunch for you. It's just that I'm trying to get you to watch X-Men 97. I can go through all the movies that we watch this week. I'm definitely going to watch X-Men 97.

Is it coming out weekly or what's the deal? Weekly. Okay, great. So I could potentially catch up on that. Oh, very easily because they're only half-hour episodes. I ended up getting, so part of why I haven't been watching quite as much. I mean, first of all, Final of 807 Rebirth is like ending for me soon. that's going to give me a lot of time back.

It's my favorite game for my childhood remade. I'm like, have to be obsessed with it. Also, One Piece Live Action. I mentioned that the other day. I did purchase the One Piece manga box set, which is the first 23 volumes of the manga. It's huge. It's like in this like treasure chest packaging.

So I've been like reading that and stuff a little bit. I know I'm reading. It's so annoying. Whoa. But I will be jumping on some of this stuff. All right. What's what's, there is something else though. There's something else.

Oh, yeah. I don't know. I've got a bunch more stuff. We went to go see the first omen and, uh, you know, was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. I was genuinely surprised. It is weird that it's like very weirdly similar to Immaculate, which we also just watched. And so it's like you want to compare them back to back, even though they are two very different movies, but they have weirdly opposite but same plots. So it's hard because they were dropped. within weeks of each other. But I did really enjoy it to a point

that it made me want to rewatch the first omen again, which when was the last time you watched the omen? I actually never seen the omen. Hell yeah, you might want to, in the future, throw it on. For sure, maybe I should do, maybe I should do like, I know this is way ahead of time, but good motivation tends to be October.

You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And that's like a full, is, all right, okay, break down the omen for me just in terms of, you know, series as a whole, like, you know, how we all know, like, Friday the 13th, like, the first two, you know, or Halloween, the third one's weird. And then, like, the first two are, like, amazing.

The third one's weird, but really cool. Like, what's the new with the Omen series? Is it just about the, the first one and the original series? Or are they, like, all, you know, what's the deal with the franchise, I guess? I mean, it kind of goes all over the place. Like, this one is the first Omen, so it's the original of how the kid in the first omen came to be. Okay.

And I don't remember the other omens because they fall off pretty hard, pretty fast. Okay, so like the original omen, probably I should watch. Yes. And then the first omen. Is the Omen remake, the one that came out in 2006 any good? Did you watch that one? If I remember correctly, the answer is no. Because if you asked me straight up, how do you feel about the omen?

I'm like, that's okay. Right? I mean, that's the reason. So that's why it wasn't like the, I mean, the omen, the original, great. Yeah. Great, amazing movie. But it is, in the scheme of things, a little more borough, snorro.

I like a, I like a Susperia. I like a slow burn. Then you'll love the omen. Horror movie. I like a moody horror movie. Shout out to the Tortured Lovers Department. Because I feel like that reminds me of a lot. I think the main criticism I'm seeing of Torture Lovers Poets Department or whatever the

fuck. I'll never know the name. It's just that people are like, all this song sound the same and it's boring. And I'm like, yeah, it's like a vibey kind of album. It's like, I want to throw this on on a rainy day and like kind of vibe with a cup of coffee. It's not. It doesn't have a bejeweled on it.

And that's okay, you know? And if that's not your thing, that's fine. But again, it's like the comments on Reddit. I hate it. It's boring. It's just like, maybe it's just like, it's just a vibe. And like, I agree with like, I don't need all my horror movies to be like, ah! Like, I don't need, you know, I could, I like a moody horror movie.

that's just a mood, you know? I mean, it's why I love folk horror movies. Like, I love anything that's brooding and upsetting and honestly, slow. Yeah. So that's why I do like the Omen. It's just, it really does fall off pretty fast. That is very funny. So, by the way, if you were curious, the Omen in 76, Damien Omen 2 in 78, the final

conflict in 81, which looks real bad. And then Omen for the Awakening, the movie poster makes it look like it was absolutely filmed on like a home camera. Like it was not. It may have been. But yeah, cool. All right. So that's why I was surprised to enjoy the first omen as much as I did. I also was very surprised by the movie Civil War, which I don't know if you're familiar with Civil War. It's an A24 movie that just came out by Alex Garland, who's like the

dude that did like 28 days later and ex-Machina and that stuff. And this is a Kirsten, Dunst movie with, I mean, Jesse Plymins has just like a bit part in it, but you know, oh, I love watching them work together. And it was built, I thought it was going to be more of like a, like in the trailer, it's essentially like, what if there was a civil war in the United States? What if it is? And watching the trailer, the whole thing is that California and Texas team up together against most of the other portions of the United States. And then like Florida tries to secede separately.

And of course, in the real world, you're like, that would never fucking happen. But that's the point of the movie. The point is that it's not about what got them to that place. It's not about what actually ripped apart the world. It is about what happens now. And what's going on. And it's also more about war journalism than anything.

and I, you know, I say that and that makes it sound boring, but it was very good. It's very brutal. And it just wasn't as, I didn't necessarily think it was going to be silly per se, but it was just a lot, like I said, it was a lot more about war journalism than I expected. So if that's more of your bag, check out Civil War. It's a great movie.

Weird. It's upsetting, though. Maybe not. But you want it to be like almost maybe campier. It's a crazy premise, right? So you thought maybe it would be a little more campy and silly. Yeah. And especially because like silly in a camp way, not like silly like slapstick comedy, but like just kind of stuff where you go like that's great.

Yay. This is stupid. And it was much more like based in a reality. And what I liked about it is that like it was writing the line in the way that like war journalists. I would assume have biases, but try to not bring it to their work. Uh-huh. And I think there was a lot of that happening in the movie, even though, like, you can tell who the people are they're going after.

Right. But, you know, it's like still shrap. Like, I like that they didn't get into the nitty gritty of it and that you just were, you were to enjoy it. But. But. But. Like it.

Yeah. In hopes that the people who, who it's aimed towards get a message and not just get immediately upset by it like they tend to do. Yes. And of course I'm still watching Marriott's Seasons 17, and I think, dare say, this might be one of my favorite seasons. Wow. It is got, it's juicy.

But it's not juicy in the way, like, that one season where that dude was just like a horrible human being. Like, it's not juicy in that way. It's juicy. And like, what are they going to fucking do? Like, I don't know, man. Like, this is, I've just been watching it by myself, talking to myself about it. So I don't even know why I said that the other show last week was too much for you to watch.

This show is 26 hour and a half long episodes. I know that I watch it by myself. This is my alone time show. I'll talk into the nothing about it because there's three people out there that also watch Meredith for sight. I want you to feel seen. It's a great show. I mean, in general. Yeah, it's kind of like video games lately for me.

I'm like, dude, you could actually make this less of this and it would maybe be better. It's just so much of it. Yeah, but then I'm so. absorbed in lives. I just feel like you do weirdly get to know them in a creepy way because there's so much content. And I feel the same way about the sister wives, which is why I feel so weirdly connected to the sister wives. Yeah. Yeah, totally. But last but not least, that I, you got to watch, baby reindeer. All right. Now this said, I know it's all over the internet. It is absolutely everywhere and it is everywhere.

For good reason, we watched it in one sitting, and we shouldn't have, it is, are you familiar with what it's about? I just read the, this twisting tale about a stalker and her victim is adapted from Richard Gads, Olivier Award winning play based on his harrowing, his own harrowing experience. Bro. Yeah. So you first start watching it. So it is about, like you said, so he's a comedian.

and he also did this one man show in Edinburgh as well and he stars in it and also wrote it and it goes so many places that I didn't expect it to go and you feel so many things and the character development is so well done. I also think it's like doing well and breaking boundaries with the trans person that is in the show as well where it's not like, and they are trans.

it's like talking about their relationship rather than it just, but it's also the other, I can't even get into it because I don't want to spoil anything, but who I did not, I will also say trigger warning. There is a lot of trauma that is discussed. Look into that.

If you are sensitive, uh, about sexual trauma, look into what it is about because this show again is not for everybody. It's just. So well done. Cool. I'm in.

And I, I cried many times. I want to see this man flourish. I, like, and the person that plays the stalker. What an unbelievable powerhouse of an actress.

Cool. I just like, I, I, I didn't know anything about the show going in and I just watch it just at least to give him so that he gets another show. He deserves another show.

Fuck yeah, man. All right. Well, I think that about wraps up our talk of TV this week. I'm going to try to get on that. I'm going to try to do X-Men. And honestly, I feel like if I'm going to do marriage in first sight, it's going to have to be a solo show as well. But, like, I always have that screen to it. I'm playing video games. I watched all of a

season of Love Island playing like Eldon Ring. You know what I mean? And that was... It's the perfect show while you're playing. That was a lot more episodes than the season 17. Like it was an absurd amount of episodes because I didn't even realize until I was halfway there. I was like, how long is this?

And then I looked it up and I was like Jesus, why? And it's like, oh, this is like a twice a week show. Whoa. It's like a show you like watch like, yeah, like you watch the news. It's like a regular occurrence in your life. So anyways, but it's, but you know, I love getting lost in that. So all right, we'll get into it. All right, y'all, thanks so much for joining.

We should have, hopefully we'll have M.J. on the next one. And yeah, we'll talk more circle, more all sorts of stuff. Let's sing the song, get out of here. Let's do it. We're talking TV with Holden and Jackie. Talking to TV.

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