Page 7 - Talkin' TV - Toes Are The Eyes Of The Feet

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

This week on Talkin' TV The Baldwins is unleashed on Max and everyone agrees it's everything wrong with reality tv (and that's really saying something), Holden finally enters the realm of self awareness and apologizes for things that haven't even been published yet, plus we are reminded that HILARIA trolls reddit for haters personal info. The Monkey (NOT THAT MONKEY MOVIE) is a gorey laughfest that finally allowed MJ to see the Nicole Kidman AMC ad.  The Waitress is released as a filmed Broadway show on max with Sarah Auroraboreilles, and MJ watched the Gabby Petito doc on Netflix which is a chilling reminder of how plainly abuse can hide. Jackie is caught up on the newest season of Mythic Quest, White Lotus has Holden having to set a bedtime for him and Lex, but MJ has Jackie on HOLD because MJ has to HOLD for Gideon! Jackie is personally invested in Traitors and she's rootin' for a ladies downfall, Holden hasn't caught up on Love Is Blind but knows he wants more OOOOOLDS!  The Baldwins - MaxThe Monkey - In the theatahhhhhhhhAmerican Murder: Gabby Petito - NetflixMythic Quest - Apple+The Traitors Season 3 - PeacockLove is Blind Season 8 - NetflixConclave - Peacock Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

With MJ Holden and Jackie talking TV And you know it's gonna get wacky Because everybody knows And everybody knows and everybody knows We're talking shows Talk to TV With MJ Holden and Jackie Bitches

Yeah, dude Yeah man You say that it's gonna be the last time We're singing this song But I say I sing it to myself all the time And you can't stop me That's true And I'm sure I'll be talking TV

With the two of you at some point in the future You certainly will be. We do a wrap up of when the Baldwin's are over. I'm assuming it's to be like an anime. It's going to be like 100 episodes and then we can talk about the ending of it. If we survive. If we survive, we had to watch the Baldwin's late last night. And man, how about that water slide?

I just need to say, out of the gate. I know they're like, we have it really hard here. We have it really rough. And it's just them on the craziest backyard inflatable water slide. I need everyone to. No. Multiple headlines. Yeah, what do they say? What are the reactions? Alec Baldwin's reality series ripped apart by critics, quote,

A New Lowe for Reality Television. Pulcher's headline, the Baldwin's is grimmer than you imagine. The Guardian headline, Alex's dreadful reality show is a new low for TV. Wow, they keep saying a new low. It's really weird. New Lowe. Because this has been so central to our talks on these episodes, like it's nice to hear outside headlines and outside voices because to me it like this all exists in my head and it's not real.

Totally. And also what I said on page seven, I do want you guys to not be watching this show. Like let us watch it for you. Yeah, yeah. Don't give you the ratings. It's really, this is what I'm going to say. It's really emotionally affecting, but not because it's good, but because just a lot of things are happening in this show that are viscerally upsetting. They hack it in in this first one.

I'm really, really upset. I'm upset because, like, it's, I feel like we started watching the episode being like, oh, sir, they're doing all of this because they need to garner sympathy, man, out the gate with the showing of, like, him finding out that he, that, Alina Hutchins died. Like, they show the interrogation room footage of the police telling him that he accidentally killed this woman, and this, you know, employee on his set of his movie. And it is horrific watch. And to be honest, I have some notes for him

on the way he reacted. I feel like he could have been a little more upset. I didn't like the hand placed on over the face. It just didn't work for me. There is, okay. I would have given him a take to him. I'm going to set it. There is a song that you sing at Passover called Dayenu.

That means it would have been enough. And it's like, Dai, Dai, Dayanoo. It's very fun. But the idea of, but the idea. is even if God hadn't done all of these things, even if he had only done one of these things, it would have been enough. Even if God had done two of these things, it would have been enough. Are you talking about God is Alec Baldwin? Are you about to say that? No, I, even if the Baldwin reality show had only been about this toxic relationship, it would have been enough.

Even if the Baldwin's reality show had been about this woman who pretends to be Spanish, that would have been enough. And now you also have, this is a show about a man with accidentally killing someone. And it makes me. As well as having seven children. And then the seven children's, which is its own nightmare and having them all be on TV.

Because moments after that, I talked about this in the page of a proper, moments after him discovering that he's killed this woman footage, let's go get haircuts with the children. Silly, silly, silly, silly, everybody haircut. I don't know what they're trying to do. They are trying to.

What do you mean? We know exactly what they're trying to do, MJ. We know exactly, but it tonally, it is insane. It is, yes, it is a roller coaster. It really is insane. But one thing that I need to get across that makes me so viscerally upset is when we started watching this episode, I was like, I am not going to feel bad for Alec Baldwin. And by the end of the episode, I was like, oh my God, do I feel bad for Alec Baldwin?

But that goes to show. But not because he accidentally killed him. No, no, it's for all of it. No, it's because of the way his wife treats him. The way his wife treats him, the way that his life is so, like, bedraggled. Not what he wants at all. Let's repeat this. We don't feel bad that he, because he accidentally took a woman's life.

I feel bad about that, too. We feel bad because of the way his wife treats him. That's insane. It is even, his life is even sadder because of how his wife treats him compared to the fact that he is obviously very traumatized by accident. That luggage under his life. eyes. He would not pass the weight limit getting through the airport. No, no, man. He got bags. His eye bags are insane. Even if he had not accidentally killed a person and is dealing with the grief of that, his wife has made every choice in their life

against his will. He's allergic to cats. They've got four cats. He's a horribly OCD. Let's have seven kids running amok in the house. She despises him. But we did, and yes, this is shame. And yes, this is shade. Do they, like, are they doing this because they need the money, right? Are they doing this just because the PR is really going to help both of them? Or are they doing this to, like, in us watching all of this, making us fall apart and being like, have we been wrong this whole time that, like, we've been making fun of Eladia? But I actually feel like we're making fun of Eladia for the wrong reasons, I dare say, because she's so horrible. as a human being.

She's a borderline emotionally abusive wife. Yes. She really is in addition to being a fake Spanish person. Yes, as well. And the more I watch it, the more I'm like, I can't believe I can't stand her way more than I can't stand. How about this? I haven't. Here's my conspiracy theory.

What if Hilaria, she is kind of, I think maybe she's like a certain kind of emotional vampire and she's been torturing Alec this whole time. She's getting stronger. And she's gotten stronger. And now she's like, now who do I want to torture? all of the world, America at the very least, with this show, right? Because we will watch.

And I know you're trying to get people at home to not watch. They're going to watch. I know. And I get it because honestly, though, don't pay for Philo. Don't pay for Fulgove. Don't go be. No, don't get any of that.

Just wait till the next day. If you already pay for Max, just watch it on Max. It's prominently featured on the front page of Max. Oh, yes. Go get it over there. It is only 44 minutes because Lord help us. I was like, oh, is this going to be like every episodes three and a half hours long. It's not Love Island.

No, they don't have that much content that's not upsetting. I think that we are on the verge of seeing the documentation of an officially abusive relationship on this show. If the gender roles were reversed in this and a spouse was delighting in making every choice, a choice that would make her husband physically ill, or like having a psychic, a psychotic, like he's OCD and she's just like, he's a. so OCD. It is so challenging. Look at him straightening things up. I'm like, I think

he's in distress. Yeah. And especially one thing that, like, is so important is communication in a relationship. And he specifically, for example, was like, I am down to take it to schlep all of the children out to the Hamptons. I just don't want any of the cats in my car because I'm allergic to them.

And then she's like, does like a devilish smile and puts all the cats in his car. Right. When he is just allergic to them and he's asked you not to. He was like, yeah. And it's That's the other thing is I expected him to be kind of an absent dad, but he was like, no, I'll take the kids. Very present.

I just don't want to be. I almost died from a cat once. Yeah. From an allergic reaction. I would just appreciate, you know. You have to go to the ER. What the fuck has happened? Why do I feel bad for him?

I feel bad for him. Don't feel bad for him. He's a skeleton house of his own making. I know. I know. I know. And even though I know that he didn't mean to kill her, he, the choices that were made on that.

movie obviously led to a workplace. Maybe he wished to kill a different woman instead. And accidentally, it materialized in this way. Allegedly, I'm just saying, throwing the thought out there. I'm also just saying that not to go to page seven, because you guys haven't heard this episode yet, but I will say

goes to the celebrity conspiracy theory that we brought up on page seven of like, is this all a lot of yes fault? I thought that was too dark a little bit when we first did it and now after watching that episode, it is not too dark. It's not too dark. It's not too dark. It's not so No, Galeria.

It is real funny. Jeff suggested it spontaneously. The three of us were watching. And Jeff was like, maybe she planted the gun in order to get control. Control and fame. And Jackie was like, that was the celebrity conspiracy theory this week. Because I'm kind of there with it because it really is. It's hilarious show.

It is her show. And you're posting all these theories. And I think like maybe she used those as excuses, anything that helped Alex situation, but they were all just excuses for her to further her, like, global agenda to become this lifestyle brand nightmare

thing that I, that I inherently load because it is like a, you know, I'm just like I'm every mother yoga teacher lifestyle, wellness thing, and I'm just going to like, you know, and show you guys this. And yes, I do

think they're definitely exploiting an awful tragedy to get like sympathy points or like use and I will say it is on them it is fucking balzy to do that. I cannot believe that anyone who like works at a job where they make television said this is okay. Right. I can't believe it's so it is in such a egregiously poor taste.

We live in an egregiously poor taste world right now. You know what I mean? Unfortunately that is the whole way that they handle the accidental, you know, manslaughter thing is so distracting that the fact that she's fake Spanish all ends up being this little side note. They do address it in the first episode. And they literally, by address it, I mean, she is such a chicken shit and she cannot say I'm not Spanish.

I'm American and I grew up in America. And so what she says is she's like, yeah, I'm bilingual. I like to speak English and Spanish. Does that make me inauthent? And she keeps showing a picture of her rich family in Spain as if that. We vacation in a spagna. Just because you buy a house in Spain does not make you Spanish. But she doesn't say any of those specifics.

She just keeps showing a family that vaguely could be Spanish in Spain and talks around it to really, truly make you believe. Because the viewer at home, some poor old bags sitting around, she's exhausted. Stop talking about me. All right. I got a nowhere road. You know what I mean? And she's just swirping on like a seven-al-a-law. 11 something.

It was a Taco Bell large soda. Oh my God. Exactly. Yeah, that's more like a Taco Bell large with the empty soft shell wrappers. Oh, yes. Yes. And she's not asking questions. She's not thinking of it.

She just sees a vaguely Spanish-looking family in Spain, you know. She's like, so why is everyone so mean to hilarious? Because she does not, again, does not clarify. She purposely obfuscates. She tries to make it seem like it's an open question whether or not she is Spanish. Remember the part she was like, I'm not, which is normal? She's like, I'm normal. I speak English and Spanish and I do all this and that's normal.

Being bilingual is perfectly normal. Pretending you are. Speaking English with an affectation and it is toned down. Changing your name to Hilaria. Changing your name to Hilaria. It's crazy. That's the crazy one. I'll tell you what.

She's bilingual, none of it. Hilaria period. That's it. I'm out. We're done. That's insane. And the thing is the whole time during the episode, Jackie and I kept saying, she's really toned down the accent.

Oh, yeah. And she has from the liby al-a, but the video with the new baby. That video with the new baby. But again, I do want to remind people when looking up her name, her original name is Hillary Lynn, Hayward Thomas. Hillary Lynn, Hayward Thomas. She's the most American Riviera Orchard-ass fucking name. It's American Riviera Orchard.

And she's born and raised in Boston and her family vacations. slash has a second home or whatever in Spain. No, she grew up poor. She had to do the mopping at her yoga studio. She had to mop that one time when she wore high heels. Yeah, she wore high heels when she had to mop. And she mopped, okay? And I don't know how to explain it, but you'll, if you watch the episode, you'll know

what I mean. She is, even though she has toned down from, leave me al-a-law, she is speaking English with an affectation that implies that English is not her first language. Yeah. Right? It's just, she's like, in that what I, It is, it baffles. I should write a movie called like The Broken Man.

And it's just from, it's like the, you know, it's one of those meta things where it's like about the making of this show. Oh, yes. Alec just kind of like sauntering through because she really, he, he, if nothing else, maybe she, allegedly she didn't plan the whole thing, right? Allegedly. Allegedly. Let's just say allegedly she didn't plan the whole thing. She's still, I think, in the back of the mind is like, wow, I thought the cats would break them, but it didn't happen. I thought the seven kids would break them, but it didn't happen.

And then this killing came. along. And finally, he's totally broken and completely under my control. What's her goal? Yes, because remember he said one day, he's like, she never used to be like this. And then one day she all of a sudden stopped. And she's like, yes, I used to say yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes him to death. And then do whatever I was going to do. But then I realized I was just going to stop and just tell him no. And openly do whatever I want to do no matter what he asks. And no matter what he says. It's devastating. It's devastating. They are talking about. There's seven kids that they have together, and he's like, yeah, there was a point at maybe kid four or five where she just stopped listening to me.

And it doesn't matter what I say. I'll just say something and she'll just say no. Oh, my God, you just reminded me the saddest part. What's my favorite time around you, baby? When I'm asleep. My favorite time is when she's asleep. My favorite time is when she's asleep. Which is the sign of a dying, sad relationship.

Like, we've all been in one of those where you're like, you're like so thrilled your partner is just like subdued like asleep or whatever. So you can just like finally do your own thing. You know what I mean? That's like the saddest, worst, you know, relationship. Man, critic Ed Power called the series a saccharin pity party where Baldwin swings between mucking about with his kids and staring into space as he contemplates the manslaughter. I think she's writing this out like his fame out. She's, like, sucking the rest of his fame dry in any way she can, but also thrilled when he dies, like super happily married to a much older man so that he will die, then she will just have the money,

the kids, and the fame, and all of it and just will right off into the sunset. How about that sick burn from his, like, 12 or 13-year-old when he's getting a haircut, and, like, the kid sends a picture to her mom to Hilaria when she's like, what do you think daddy should look like with his haircut? And she sends a picture of him in, like, Beetlejuice era. like hot young picture of him. She's like, he should look like this. And I think that's a great roasting of a child to their father.

For sure, for sure. My biggest shock was that I didn't, and I know we're not going to talk about how the kids were cute, because Lexi kept walking by and saying the kids are cute. I was having a little bit of hard times. Lexi would like walk and see a kid scene and giggle. And I'm like, that's not what we're here to do. No, we're not looking at the kids. I wasn't like, oh, the kids are fun.

But I guess my biggest shock was that I didn't hate him as a parent. but I do hate her as a parent. And I didn't just like and actually I thought I really was going to really dislike the children. That I don't dislike him as much as I thought. The kids were fine. But I will say that those, that pack of boys, I'm telling you, when they hit like middle school high school, they're going to be a fucking night. They're already like he even said they're like a little gang now. Like they're all kind of working together and clearly like doing what the ever the fuck they want.

You know what I'm surprised there's only two nannies. And also MJ, when they went downstairs with the three cars and all the kids are just standing on the sidewalk while she is alone trying to put in all of the cars. But you see one of the nannies. You see that shot? Oh, yeah. There's one shot of the nannies where you don't see her face because she's clearly hiding it and trying to like not be in the thing because that's what they do. They hide the nannies. And all of that would have been done by the nannies.

There's no part of that situation where they're like getting packing the car and getting the car seats in. stuff that actually is how they normally do it when the cameras are off. I guess, yeah. So this, because I was really struggling with this. The fact that they only have two nannies, I kept saying last night to Jackie, I was like, they must be broke. They are understaffed. And then you see them trying to load up the car and hilarious, like, you know, obviously

in an intense mood trying to install the car seats. And it is comically difficult to install a car seat. And it is a recipe for a fight with your partner because you're like sweating and pushing it down, like trying to get the, you know. I've definitely been there with the car seat. They're just like us. I forgot. That's just like us.

That's just like us. That's funnier than already being angry and needing to install a car seat and you just take it all out on the car seat. But that's what they're doing. And they are in. You have a moment where you're just like us. And they're thinking, why are they doing this? They keep talking about the two nannies who are,

I mean, they don't keep talking about. But they make the list of everyone who has to fit in the car and they keep saying two nannies. But then as Holden pointed out, you don't see the nannies faces. You don't see them. You don't see what the nannies are probably doing, which is making sure the kids don't run out into draft. Oh, thank God.

I wouldn't want them to get paid for being a part of the show. Oh, good. I'm so glad that they're not going to get any compensation. That's exactly what that's. That's about it also to make it look like they do more than they do, which, you know. Yes. Although, again, I am surprised that they only have two nannies. I am surprised.

Like, I was more surprised at certain things. Even if you think about it, you know how expensive that apartment is in New York. But even then they have five bedrooms. Why don't they have a bigger apartment? imagine having five bedrooms ever anywhere, but like for them to have seven children. No, they're roughing it. This is, it's so confusing because, and I maybe I got duped because all last night I kept thinking they're roughing it.

They are broke. And then this must be why they do in the show. But then Holden was like, they're trying to make it look, they're trying to make themselves look more sympathetic. Yeah, always, always. So I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I mean, it's on them if they're going to live in a apartment in New York City with seven

kids. I mean, that doesn't, it just inherently. I mean, they do have their estate out in the Hampton. Yeah, they also have their estate. And the best scene of the entire episode is when they make Alec Baldwin climb into the inflatable water slide. And he is just... I'm angry they didn't show every second of him going like, ugh.

Yeah. Should Daddy get in the water slide? And then it just cuts to this man in his late 60s, like, army crawling himself across the thing. I try and not to break a bone. His age shows a lot. Even in that barber shop, he, He was sort of like, oh, kids.

And he was sort of lumbering, like, hobbling out of the barbershop. Well, even Jeff said, yeah. You can tell he's walking like his back hurts. Like the way that he's walking, you can tell he's in pain. Yeah, Jeff was like he's got chronic back pain. He's got back problems. Like, you can tell just by the way he walks. And, but I was weirdly surprised with how he was with the kids.

Even honestly, in my brain, I was like, I bet he doesn't know any of the kids' names. In fact, we kept making jokes that he kept calling the baby the baby. And we're like, I bet he doesn't remember the kid's name. But that appears to have been a choice they've made as a family that they just call the baby. Maybe. In every conflict, there's at least one bitch. A huge bitch, a silly bitch. A little baby bitch.

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The Baldwin. I'm not, like, totally, like, because I don't totally disbelieve that he wanted to keep having kids. There's just, you know, something going. Like, I know. Yeah, he doesn't have to have them. I believe he wanted to have a big family. Yes, but I believe that he said several times in the episode that he didn't want seven. Seven.

Yes. I feel like seven was too many. Out the gate, he's like, yeah, I did have this other kid, but, like, didn't do as good with this one. I know. I don't have failed at this one, so I really wanted to, like, restart. And then he, it's such a Freudian slip. He's like, yeah, I really messed up that relationship. So that's why I focused so hard on my kids.

And he meant my other kids. My other kids. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. Yeah. Well, I guess we've talked about the Baldwin's for long enough. I guess we have to leave it for this week.

But we're going to keep talking about it because I'm not going to stop watching it. Before we start, I will say this. I'm a little surprised at how much they left on the dance floor in episode one. They cover the accent, the show. shooting. I mean, they're going to get into the trial and stuff. Where do we go from here? Like, what do we see is the rest of the season? More kids' birthday parties, I imagine. More wacky kids stuff and then the occasional existential breakdown from him.

Right, right. That's kind of where we're going. Because I don't think they're going to, MJ and I were talking about, they're not going to cover the accent ever again. Zero percent more. You think. I think. That, or I also feel like it's going to be the going back and forth because it seems like they just moved out the family for him to go have the trial. So I imagine there's going to be are like, I need to do get the A for how the bond they bond. I hope she wins into the accent more. I'm just saying the part where everybody's like,

that's fucking crazy. There's something going on with you. This is weird. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And but I'm going to keep watching it. And I'm upset with myself already. How many do we know how many episodes this show?

I know. If it's a DLC show, there's usually so many. So many. I don't know. But how much did they let people in? I mean, I feel like this is such a delicate balance of a thing that they're trying to do here, you know? I mean, it was filmed in the summer of 2024, so not even that long ago. So there must not be that much material.

Just brutal. I mean, really is one of, in a particularly existential year, this is one of the most existential things that exists within it, which is saying something. It is saying something. It won't tell me how many episodes. They must be still desperately editing that. Like, there's got to be, right? literally a part in this first episode where he says, why do I have all these kids,

which really harkens back to my favorite line from It's Wonderful Life, when Jimmy Stewart says, why do we have to have all these kids? But he basically says, you yell that to yourself all the time. I do. Why do we have to have all these kids?

Exact famous movie quote. And then he's like, so that they can carry me through this trial. And it's, you could even tell that the producers in the room are like, oh, don't see that. I think that it is like,

if you have seven kids, It's kind of like being a cutter. You know what I mean? You can't focus on anything else. There's that much chaos going on. It's just like conflicting. Yeah, it's like being a cutter. It blocks out everything else going around because it's just so chaotic and insane.

That is literally what he says. He's like, luckily I can stop the terrifying thoughts in my head on how I've killed a woman. Yes. Because there's somebody pissing on the floor. And everybody knows that as long as you block out PDS. for a certain amount of time, it just goes away. It never comes back, favorite. Kurt Vonnegut, I get wrote about this.

Also, I want to, I feel a little bad about it. In the next episode of page seven, I call the Hawk to a girl a waste of life. I would apologize to a girl. I've ruminated. Already apologizing before the episode drops. I talked with one Mike Lawrence who brought up some good points, you know, and some things like that. About how you shouldn't say women are a waste of life? I should say, no, not about that.

He loved that. I thought that was great. Good, good, good. Good, good. Check out nerd of mouth. Everyone in the last podcast. No, it just, you know, honestly, at the end of the day, initially she did something really brilliant, which was take this meme thing, this blowjob joke, and, like, turn it into a fucking career, which is really crazy and difficult to do. That's a good for her.

Then she was just totally fumbled the bag. And at the end of the day, I think I'm so angry about it because I'm so jealous because I've worked my ass on. to get, you know, a small fraction of the listeners she has. Have you thought about making jokes about sucking dick more? Man, if I could, how do I make more of a thing I do too much? I was going to say, you do plenty. You talk about oral sex a lot. A lot of people say, I'm going to mishold and except for the phrase lingy.

I talk about nut, but I don't talk about sucking dick. Yeah, you talk about jerking off, but you're not talking about sucking dick. That's true. You should talk about sucking more. I love cock sucking. I love this. I'm not really going to get people. It's got to be like, I'll like a drink and Mike.

I'm speeding up my dance. You and Mike and Jake can really figure that out over on nerd of mouth. And I think that's really good for you. She's not a waste of life. She just did something very foolish. And I think there's also jealousy there on my part. I think that that's very self-aware of you. I'm very proud of you.

On this last week of your time at page 7, you have entered a realm of self-awareness. Don't put your name on anything you are unless you are 100% aware of what that thing is. What if you put a dollar sign before your name? Yeah, and then it's fine. But also, how dare rotten tomatoes 14% for the bald wins? What do you mean? Would you just read all those? I can't wait to read all those articles.

I really can't wait to read all those articles. This is getting spainting. Pan. It's so bad. So bad. Only the first episode, too. That is brutal. We know that Hilaria, my favorite thing about Hilaria is that she hires

spies to watch the Reddits and get personal. information of the Redditors that post negatively about her. I haven't even been on the Hilaria Hate subreddit. That has got to be popping the fuck. Oh, yeah. We should spend some time on there. But I love this about her that she's like, I will personally hunt down anyone who says something negative about me.

And so you know that she is spiraling right now because she can't handle this. Oh, yeah. Sounds like there's a monkey in the run. And I'm sucking his cock. See, there you go. What's the sound? Yeah, what's the sound? Yeah, more banana.

More banana sound. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Now that's how you suck a monkey's cock. Thank you very much. Because when monkeys come, it's like a fart. No, see, I was thinking more of like an elephant's trunk, but I thought it was more like a blast off, but I guess if it's like a fart. I feel bad for anyone who has to work this mic after I'm done with it.

This thing's covered in my fucking sludge. Are you kidding me? Every one of these microphones, you get close to the microphone. You can smell. Like, I feel like I can smell Henry's spit from here. You know what I mean? You always know a brother spit. Everybody, I say, give me a couple of jaws.

I'll say, that one's my brother. Oh, my guy. You just came up with the new Hawk Tua. Can I start selling the money, Bitcoin? Can I start having jack coin? Yeah, brother spit, girl. Brother spit? Yeah.

I love the smell of it. Ooh, baby. And I'll make a whole other podcast just about my brother spit. You know brother Spitz now doing a podcast with Travis Kelsey? Yeah. DollarSide spit. Yeah, dollar, side. Well, spit is the asses of course.

Thank you. Jackie's spit. Thank you very much. We're talking about the monkey. We're talking about monkey, monkey, monkey, monkey, monkey movie. And I am very... Not the Robbie Williams monkey movie guys. No, we did make many...

M. Jacobs, England, not that monkey movie, which is great. And all of a sudden, I was kind of scared on the way to the movie theater that maybe we were accidentally going to go seeing Better Man. And that would have really ended in a horrible, horrific chaos. But we went to go see the monkey, which was just dropped by Oz Perkins, written and directed by Oz Perkins, who did long legs. Now, I enjoyed a long legs. I wasn't like, you know, I wasn't over here. Hawk, too, and over because of fucking, you know, long legs.

swallowing someone's cup over long legs. This Nicholas Cage atmospheric horror makes me want to blow someone. A-sac. Twang! Is that better? I always forget the name of the movie with the fireball of the cocaine and the dick out. Oh, yeah, Love Lies Bleeding. Thank you.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It wasn't a Love Lies Bleeding either. No, the monkey, I went into it. I had seen the trailer, and all I had hurt. Like, I didn't look that far into it. All I heard was that it was fun. But I didn't know that it was going to be a horror comedy.

And I thought that it was because all I knew was long legs. And I was like, oh, I bet that this is going to be, you know, like an intensive, like a regular real horror. And boy, to my surprise, this movie is so fun. It is so schlocky. It was a slapstick horror. It is genuinely like a laugh out loud. horror. And the kills are so fun and so erratic. And like it is it is really much goryer than I expected it to be. But in all of the fun ways, it is an hour and a half and it is a

good hour and a half. But also before we even get into this, MJ saw the Nicole Kidman AMC for the first time in person. Heartbreak feels good at a place like this. It's every time. I know. I said it was my first time and the entire row of friends we were with said, what? Your first time? Yeah, it was beautiful.

Because I've been to the movies, but I go to Nighthawk, you know, in Brooklyn, which is not an AMC, so they don't have Nicole Kippman. No, of course. But also, MJ didn't even know how to work the soda machine because MJ was like, I don't even understand how the soda comes out. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on.

Yeah, now it's just not even normal. Now that was just a normal touchscreen soda machine, right? When am I going to a touchscreen soda machine? Anytime you take your kids to any fun burger place ever, no? They probably don't have the new soda machine. These are all new soda machines here. The McDonald's, you know, on Flatbush Avenue that we're going to, does not have those soda machines. Because we're talking about the epic soda, the one where you can get every soda, any kind of flavor.

I usually go for a cherry Coke. I love a cherry Coke. I would have gotten a cherry Coke if it wasn't the evening and I couldn't do caffeine. But I was excited. I know it is embarrassing. I don't know how to use the soda machine, but I'm not a real soda drinker. I thought it was cute.

I was like, what do I do? I feel like, yeah, you were the monkey in the salsa. I walked up to the soda machine. I looked at it. I froze and then I stepped back and I said, everyone else go first. I need more time. Yes.

And I believe Natalie's quote was, does Gideon never let you leave the house? And I liked it that that came from Natalie, too, as if we have to have our husband's permission to leave the house. But also, Gideon should let you leave the house every once in a while. Problem is if I'm leaving the house, I'm having a cocktail, not a soda. You're right.

You're right. Not going to a soda machine when I leave the house. Cocktail dispensary. Yeah, exactly. Give me a big flashing touchscreen where I can choose what type of old fashion. And I know how to use that. That would be kind of fun. That would be dangerous. You know, old fashion. That would be delicious. I'll take a little cherry Coke. I love a cherry in an old fashion.

I like cherry juice and in an old fashion as well. I want it fruity. I want it fruity. But also the monkey was a really a delight. And MJ, what did you think? Because I feel like I also had pitched it to you as a horror movie because I thought it was a horror horror movie. And we're like pitched it to you.

Yeah, I pitched it to me. A editor. You got to have to say a movie. No, I had a great time. It is funny that for some reason the last adult movie I went and saw in a theater like without my kids was Long Lakes. So I just exclusively see As Perkins movies. in the theater.

And they felt very different. And I don't watch a lot of horror. And this movie was incredibly gory. So at first I did have a moment where I was like, uh-oh, am I going to be able to handle all of this score? But it is so funny. And it's given how little I go out of the house

and how little I see movies, it was a very funny movie to see in the theater because it is so intense. I think that the best way to go with movie theater experiences because those like fun over the top 90s comedies are gone. They're gone and dead. Yeah. I know. Give me those big fun rated R comedy. Because those have really gone the way that dodo, the best bang for your buck really is of

Gore Fest. You know, Terrifier was one of the best times I had. Yeah. Watching Terrifire 3 in the theater this past like Halloween season. Have you seen Psycho Gore, man? Yeah, I love Psycho Gore. Okay, we were pitching you and we were bitching this. Jeff and I were bitching this towards MJ also. I just feel like, Yeah, what actually was like, I was like, twang, twang, twang, twang. Dude, what world are we living in it, dude?

Everything is so dumb. I don't know, dude, but I did really enjoy the monkey and I think that you might have a good time if you go to go see it. It's psycho goreman rules, and, you know, the only other thing that I feel like has been, like, oh, I'm so glad I went out to the theater to watch this, like, this is only should be seen

in the theater was, like, wicked, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. so big and fun. I would love to see it in the theater. And to see it with a bunch of people. And all the people being like, anyone are the people to sing along to the movie. Go fuck.

You're just watching it home. Don't go to a musical. Or watch it like on a random off day in the middle of the after week. I tend to agree. Shut up. Let people have a good time. Yes. Unless you're looking at your phone or like distracting from the movie experience

in terms of like doing something else. Or like standing up and singing like putting on a performance. Don't make it about you. You're like, yeah. Don't alienate people from enjoying themselves to the fucking, fuck on. I sang through the movie, but I sat in my seat. And I was like, nothing new. Yeah.

And I didn't hear it. It's a movie theater. It's very loud. Yeah, I was singing to myself. It's just like people have fun in theaters. Like my favorite theater experiences were where people were like actively screaming throughout cats, paranormal activity. Well, it was fun that we did Jack and the three of us live in person and MJ Holden

Holden and I were asked to sing for good from Wicked, but it was very funny because both MJ and Holden don't know the song for good. So I was barking at them while we sang it trying. I was directing. I think Jackie was a little flat. I think we did. I don't know

about that. Maybe I was flat because I was busy directing while also singing. I want to give you some notes afterwards, but I think you and I did very well. I think you guys both did do a good job with my direction. Thank you very much. I think the direction was bad. No, I did a really good. There's no way you could have even possibly achieved any kind of greatness, if not for me.

That's true. And I say that every day to you both. That's what Jackie says after we wrap each episode. Every episode. Disagree to agree. Nothing without me. That's all I said. Because I knew you.

Yes. I know. And now it's sad because now I have that song in my head. I'm Dr. Whizzo that I know all the rules. It's not in it. And we're transitioning to a slightly new page seven and I'm just walking around going, I have been changed for good. Yeah, because it was a song.

from the upcoming. I have, it's such a weird feeling to have only seen half of a musical. Yeah, that you don't know the other half of it. And I just haven't sought it out.

I mean, I could just go sit down and watch like some kind of, oh yeah, they did, they put up the waitress as like a filmed Broadway show on Max. Really? Did you see that?

No. I kind of am with Sarah Borealis as the, like, Borrellas. And Aurora Borealis. And Aurora Borealis. Maybe she's a little. That's her.

The rural juror on the American River Yorker Orchard. That makes sense. Okay. But yeah, she... I'm wrong, you're right. Thank you. Yes. I'll ask some notes about the wizard's performance.

But either way or the wicked, I don't even know what I don't even know. Yeah, you don't even fucking know. Well, it should be called the wizard. We all get one celebrity whose name we say very wrong and never corrected. And his can be Sarah Borialis. Yeah, you have got that one. More of those, please, because that's all I really want. I don't really need you to make like a pump out a bunch of

Wonkas or whatever. Like, Wicked is its own thing. I think it's great. But more just well-filmed, like they did Hamilton on Disney. More just well-filmed stage music. I would watch so many of them. I do play to watch The Waitress. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. A year it's great. Yeah. So just more of that. I love her. I love Sarah Borellis. Either way. All right. Let's, what else? What else is? I don't we have seen. Love is Blind? Well, we were just talking about the murder series. American murder. about Gabrielle Petito. Gabby Petito.

Did you guys watch it together? No, no. I watched it on your own. How'd you watch it on your own? Well, Jackie was at therapy. Yeah. Crazy story, right? It is a crazy story.

I don't really, it's, you know, it's just a, I think it's a well-made kind of true crime documentary, as many of them are, about a woman who is murdered by her male partner. But I feel like we are now entering this era of true crime, and maybe we've been here for years already, where the material is coming from the social media of the subject. The subject, and that really gives me the willies. Yeah, it's weird. But this was the whole deal. This was inherent in it. But we did remember this story. This is a well-known story.

This wasn't that long ago. Very, yeah, 2021. It was like they were making a travel blog together, traveling across the country, living out of a van. I guess that's why I didn't want to watch a docu-series. I was like, this just happened. I remember the things that happened, but I understand that for those that love to watch True Climb,

that you want to get into all of it. It's that the source material is her own, like, outtakes and stuff from her crazy. It's getting the insight. in from the family, it's getting all the stuff ahead, and really like to kind of break it down what makes it fascinating inherently in the first episode is just you realize like, he did the abuser thing where he was like, I'm going to isolate this woman from her whole family and like the only friends she has by doing this van thing. Yes. And doing this like, let's live out of a van and travel around the country was his way to like fully remove her from

them. The final step, which is what abusers do. But but then she went and will make a travel blog out of it. And he was like, oh, fuck. Because now we're going to reveal me maybe. And like, and that's the crazy part. Not that there is ever a good reason why. Is there like, what, what, like, were they unhappy? Like, is he just wanted the relationship over? Like, just a crazy person and wanted her dead. Controlled her. I think he's just a shitty person. I think he's just a shitty controlling guy with anger issues. We haven't gotten to the, I haven't gotten to the actual killing yet. So, uh, yeah, I, uh, but it's, it's that. It's that. immediately was what jumped out as like,

that's like a movie plot. But that is, it isn't like a movie plot. But I think also one of the things that is so upsetting about it is that he is, there is no, I mean, there's red flags,

like you said about how he's isolating her, but it's not like he's just a shitty, angry guy. Yeah, he's just a guy who's like, he's the type of guy where you might, you could have this relationship in your life and be like, that guy's not very nice. Or like, that guy seems like a little bit controlling of her.

There are red flags. the friend talks about how he was, you know, did explicitly controlling things. But it's, I think that it's just like, yeah, man, sometimes people just kill their partners because they are angry men with anger issues and they have the ability to do this. You know, it's like you wouldn't have necessarily seen it coming based on what they show in the documentary, aside from that he is clearly an isolating. I don't know. As I'm saying it, I'm like, I don't know if this sounds weird. But, you know, it's just kind of there's a normality to it that's very disturbing. I think it's important for younger people to watch this because, like, dude, seriously, I see it time and time again in our 20s.

Don't let any, I don't care how in love you are with them or how amazing they seem. Never let anyone pull you from your friend group. And I think that I keep watching it and being like, what would I do if someone I loved was in a relationship like this that looks mostly normal. You've dealt with this. I've talked to you about this. We've definitely dealt with this before, but then there's also sometimes. I know your stuff and I've had, yeah. Where I feel like sometimes, too, it is also, there's also a honeymoon phase when you first start dating someone where you're just like, I don't want to hang out with my friends, I only want to be all about you.

And that is very different than a person that is slowly moving you away or quickly moving you out. Or it happens. And even her parents are like, he seemed nice. She seemed happy. Right. You know, and like that, I just kept thinking like, how do I, you know, how do we teach our kids to like recognize these red flags when especially the red flags are just subtleish? And then there's one that's not, you know, he took my ID. Well, that's a huge red flag.

But at that point, you're already so far, and you live with this man. You've moved for him. And it does do a very good job of just showing how creeping domestic abuse can be, how slow and steady. To be like, I'm going to let's travel the country and live out of a van. Sounds like just a cool, whimsical thing. But inherently it was like, because then you can't be around your friends and family. And he breaks down her self-esteem.

She keeps saying like, I'm so mean. She keeps having, she has all this negative self-talk that you know is all from him. Totally. Right. Crazy. It is crazy. It's fascinating. And I think usually, too, what makes these more fascinating exactly is because there's just so much intimate, like, footage just because they were. Because I think they had the social media post, but I also think they got access to, because you're getting footage of them like, I'm sure they would have cut out of the post itself.

You're getting like the raw. Right. You know what I mean? Like her making a mistake and being like, shit, we have to do it again. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly. They're giving you all the spoilers. All the spoilers.

That is, but spoiler alert, she dies in the end. Oh, yeah. He kills her. Most definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he in prison? Haven't gotten there yet. Okay, okay.

It's a three-episode series. I unfortunately had to watch the Baldwin's. I mean, it's a president. I don't want to talk to me about a different killing. Yeah, a different reality show. Different woman who is killed. Yeah, I will finish it for sure. But from what I've heard, it's like a really tight,

solid three episodes and it doesn't like outwear itself or like rehash too much. That's what I heard from other people talking about. That's great. That's really great. Yeah, I feel like it's pretty well done. It's great. They really just cut all the fat out of that domestic abuse killing. Yeah, just show me the real aggression.

Give me right in there. Please. On the opposite end of all of this, I am caught up with the newest season of Mythic Quest. I just want to throw it out there because someone reminded me that Mythic Quest has been coming out and there's like five or six episodes that were already dropped for this season and man I just like

Slurp Slurp Slurp Slurp Slurp Slurp it up It is just a really really well done It is one of these shows that is buried on Apple Plus Highly, I mean obviously it's not that buried Since it's had four seasons of it or three seasons of it But still check it out if you just are looking for a fun half hour I mean it's Rob McElanny You know so if you dig that kind of style

But he is such a fun character in it And I think that he really gets to like play in a different way from like always sunny. What's the elevator pitch on it? That it is, they are all working on this game called Mythic Quest. So Rob McEleney is like the like original creator and then pop-a-a-a-video game? Yeah, it's a video game. And so it's like they're always working on extensions. It's all the different portions of a multiplayer video game company.

Expansions, but yes. Yes. What did I say? I don't fucking know. Yeah, like hair extensions. It's a real human hair extensions. That's a good one to one. That is a good one to one.

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Hair extensions. Man, I actually realize I've seen like a lot of stuff. Yeah, love is blind. I've got Love is Blind, White Lotus and Conclave, my other three. So I've been preventing Jackie from watching White Lotus

because I have to wait to watch it with Gideon. So I'm not caught up with White Lotus. Well, then I'll just briefly talk about that one. I'm more in on immediately with all of the different groups of people showing up the island than I have any other season. Really? That first episode knocked it out of the park.

And I started, we watched like half of the second episode last night, and it also is continuing. Can't wait. Like, I had to pull us away. Like, it is too late, we got to go to bed. All right, next week I'll be, I'll be caught up. There is a lady kind of vacay group that I think is a special. Oh my God, yes.

Girls trip? And with all the dynamics you could imagine. And it is like one is a, you know, a celebrity-esque and the other two, the three have been friends for a very long time and have seen many different assets. Oh, pity her. Like the one is the like kind of ugly duckling, I guess, for lack of a better term. Even though they're all beautiful and like societally perfect women, you know what I mean? But of course, it's the interworkings of women on vacation together. Oh man, a girls trip is such a specific kind of.

brain manipulation. Yes. It is so here for that dynamic. There is a North Carolina family that's fucking with me because it's just like Parker Posey plays like my mom kind of. Really? And also is it Patrick Schwarzenegger? I feel bad.

I forget what it's Arnold Schwarzenegger's kid who plays like or their oldest. The weird horny. But he's also, but he's great at what he's doing. Yeah, he's great at what he's doing. It's just. Oh. Yuck. Oh, yeah, it's yuck. Yeah, they're just, I'm loving.

And then what's is the actor from Righteous Jimstones? Oh, Walton Gagginz. Yes. Oh, thank God he's there. I can't wait to watch that unfold. You're going to love it. And Jada. My last thing about it, La La Lisa from Black Pink is like works at the hotel and she's totally

solid as fuck. Like, I'm really happy to see that because you always worry for someone you really like admire in a different space. Of course. And she's acting, man. It is cool. She's fucking doing it. All right.

She's pulling it off great. And she's so beautiful and just awesome. I'm so happy she's in it. I don't know. Just everything. I'm like just more. I've loved the first two seasons and I'm like more in than I have ever before. I'm just so so into that show.

That's glowing praise for a show whose first two seasons were fucking awesome. I know. I know. Because that's really what it is. I was like, all right, let's just watch. I'm just going to let it all go. I'm just going to watch this first episode. And I can't stop.

I was like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm so excited. As soon as Lexi's like, we're done with bedtime or whatever, like, it's just going right back on. We're going to, and I love that it's every, it's, I love anything that brings me back to that destination television feeling. It's once a week. Yeah. And I can't wait to see what happens next. And I'm excited now every Sunday to watch the next one. And that, I miss that. And it's so rare now for that to be a thing, you know, and I think that, I think that, especially in season three, I think a bunch of people are going to be on board for that. Oh, yeah.

Talk about it and stuff like we used to with, like, Game of Thrones. I'm very excited because I was just about to be like, I was just going to talk about the Traders Season 3 because the last episode, poor MJ, I was like, sorry, MJ, we must watch, like, I can't not watch this episode in front of you. Like blindly watching. I had seen the first two, I think, episodes. I just didn't really get into it. So I enjoyed watching it.

I'm just not super emotionally attached except to Ellen Cumming. I mean, and oh, God, what a performer. And what happened on the last season. last episode, I was so upset. And everybody knows what I'm upset about because of course I loved her and I'm trying not to give it away. But you know that I loved her and that bitch.

Oh, that bitch, I want to watch her downfall. And I'm so sad. Well, not sad because I thought this next episode is episode 10 and I was like, oh God, it's about to be over. But thank Christ there are 12 episodes. So don't worry. There's a couple more episodes of it because I just, I don't know, I want to watch her.

downfall. And now I am so personally invested in the show. I just want to say thank you to everybody. And I need to, and apparently I need to start watching Traders UK that I'm going to love it also. Everyone wants you to watch Traders UK. The problem is that you know that I'm already,

now I'm getting devoted to the Housewives. So it's like you know if I'm giving myself over to other reality. Housewives, they get jealous. There's only so many hours in the day. There's only so many hours in the day. I had to pause my SLC bitches to catch up on Love is blind. I know. Let's talk about it.

Let's, I mean, how far do you get? I'm not super caught up on Love is Blind. Are you still in the pod? But, spoil away. I guess we're all still in the pod. It's truly a show where I like just, it's truly that like I have my phone out now kind of show. We talk, we actually drunkenly screamed a lot about it on Friday, but I'll try to like repeat a little bit of our thoughts. I mean, there are two major thoughts I have going into this season of Love is Blind.

One is that why are like all the women generally pretty great and all of the men, men except for arguably one fucking horrible. The men are... What is happening with the casting? Is it just the like... Is it just the show of this nature that is trying to cast

like people in their 20s? The woman in her 20s that wants to be on the show is just way less toxic and awful than the man in his 20s I think there is a structural problem there where women in their 20s have usually reached a point of maturity that a man in his

20s often hasn't. I'm speaking in generalities, and I believe gender is fake, but we all know what I'm talking about. We've all met a 26-year-old woman versus a 26-year-old man. And there's just a gap there. If you've been societally raised as that gender, it's going to affect you in different ways. I want to watch, like, not even necessarily golden love is blind, but at least like in their 40s love is blind. I would love if they, like, cast the show with an older group, maybe even make them all

divorcese. Watch the later daters. I was going to say, we all refuse to watch later daters over here. I love the later daters. With the love is wine construct, that's the problem. I don't want to just watch old people date. But old people know better than to go on fucking love is wine because they know that love is not blind. And we've seen Milf Manor with a bunch of 50-year-old.

Dirty dogs. So we know that the men don't get wiser as they get older. But I think the thing that grates on me is just that like that I'm starting to get. They all look the same? They all look the same, but no, it's the part where like, this is the scenario that keeps happening. One person's like, when I was young, a family member died and it really messed with me and gave me, it was really difficult for me. And then the other person goes like, wow, that's crazy. And then they go, you know what?

I guess we got to get engaged. We just know each other. Like, it's like just basic fundamental sharing of personal things. Right. And then all of a sudden they're like, it's like you're just my absolute forever soulmate love. And it's like, no, you just share. extremely basic information about each other in this weird, intimate setting

that just was like, it's all ridiculous. Like, they just fall up so fast. It's so dumb. But that's why I was so proud and, like, happy for a hot bitch with the nose ring and other dude that looks exactly like all the other dudes. You couldn't with a gun to my head.

I have no idea what their names are. It was registered nurse and with an M. It was registered nurse, hot, blonde girl, and boy who had been bullied as a child. And he... No, she was. She's not the nurse. She's an artist.

Jackie, there's two oncology nurses and one of registered nurse. Yes, there's two oncology nurses. I'm not talking about that couple. You're talking about the one with the nose ring and the one that just broke up. Isn't she a registered nurse? No, she's an artist. It just says artists underneath her and it just, I need so much more. I don't care about their occupations at all.

You're right. You're talking about the hot girl with the nose ring and the boy who sided with his boy. I'm watching, I'm watching Love is Blind fully like in care. Like, I'm blind to the show. I'm looking at my phone and only hearing me. Yes. Well, that's easy because the men are so forgettable. So forgettable.

The only memorable boys are Joey. Yeah, I love Joey. Because he's great. And the pickup artist because he's so scary. Ew, Harry Conic Ratface. No, Harry Conic Ratface is the toxic Christian boy. Oh, that's a toxic Christian boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he doesn't hate your gay sister. Ew, he's dumb face. I hate his face so much. when you're talking about it. I will show you in space. He is, he will tolerate your gay sister, but he does expect you to go to church every Sunday. Right, right, right.

But then, yes, you were talking about hot blonde girl who was partnered with a guy who ended up being so upset that he had stolen this girl from another guy named Mason that he sided with Mason so much that she is like, you know what? I think that you're siding with Mason more than my own perspective. I think I got to end it. And Ben is the creepest, right? is he, one of them is a creepus. I didn't, I didn't even have.

He looks exactly the same like all the other ones. He's got a fucking shrug. You're showing me that picture. I couldn't pick him out of the line. I didn't know. His name was Ben. I don't know. And I can't remember how artist with a nose ring.

I'm sorry, I mixed her up with a registered nurse. It's because we were just watching the registered girl, the one that, who had the tragic childhood with the drug addicted mom? This one. I don't remember any of them. With the wing tip eyeliner. Yeah. Wing tip eyeliner and the tattoos.

Yeah. Her name is Madison. Her name is Madison. Thank you. And then the registered nurse is the one who's with the man who's too short for her. Who may have followed her on Instagram. All I had to say is this. My other big point I wanted to make is, and I said this on the stream,

but did Quentin Tarantino get hired as the camera off for the show? Because it is a foot bananza. I don't even notice the feet. It is the attack of the foot. Every single shot, it is from like the perspective almost of the foot. It's like, they can angle the camera. Holden back. Hey, can you stick your big dumb foot, like, right into, at least it's just the women,

none of the men, because I'd be literally throwing up. Yeah, of course. And one of them, like, Joey's girl, the, what's her name? She's doing, like, Monica. Her toes are all splayed at. They're like, she's doing, like, toe stretches. I wanted to puke. It was so bad.

This is not our fault. There's Monica, Madison, Meg. There's a Molly in there. I was talking to someone else in Twitch chat and they were like, yeah, and then there was that one girl who had like those red feet, like she just had a chemical peel. It was like so... What? What are we not? But also, MJ and I are both also usually talking or looking at her phones while watching it. It's the woman in the room.

She's got at least one foot fully unsheathed, just as close to the camera as possible. It's like the thing, it's like if Michelangelo were like painting, it was like, here's the focal point. You know? When you put it like the fingers. Yeah, yeah. And it's like the toes are the center and then you see the rest. It's awful. Yeah, man.

The toes are the eyes of the feet. It's awful. You got to remember that. Holden. Stare into their beauty. I've just, come on, guys. Get it together. Give these women some shoes.

What's going on? And what is this going on, gal? Give them some confidence. Wear some socks, bro. I don't care if they have shoes. I want them to have self-lust. Any kind of confidence. These women, you deserve so much.

better than these forgettable toxic men. Forgettable at best. And are we going to continue to hate watch it? The answer is yes. I'm sad. I'm angry. Like this is not, this is beyond a hate watch this season. Two times a year is too much. It's too much.

They need to do it once a year. Lexi's even fallen off. She's like, I don't even know if I'm because we both agree that we're just like these men are just fucking dog shit. And I got to watch them all fall apart. Right. But they have to see it. I have to watch it, but I don't want it to be two times a year. Imagine if Christmas was two times a year, it would be too much.

It's too much Christmas. Yeah. I really liked Concliffe. I don't know if we need to talk too much about it. It's a good movie. It's great. I just thought it was really beautifully shot. The acting was amazing.

I liked how, like, I don't know, how not zany it got. Like, I just liked that it was just this really, like, straight down the middle, like, rumination. Just a well-written, well-acted movie. Conclave is very good. And I need to say, I was like, a movie about priests, I'm asleep. And then I watched it. It was like, oh, no, this is a really good news. Are you keeping the faith with Edward Norton?

I mean, I love keeping. But I love-butt, these are catty bitch priests. And with Conclave, I love that it's like, we're in a space that, like, you feel like you're not allowed to be in. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you're in these spaces. It's like, it's like, I guess what really this is about to, I know nothing about religion. How they choose a new pope.

So they all go in. That's fun. choosing a new pope and all these. And they need every day to discuss and they put out the smoke of whether or not they've chosen the next pope or not. Ray Fines, Stanley Tucci. Oh, yo, yoy.

Who, what's his name? Third Rock from the Sun. Ray Fines. I already said Ray Fines. John Lithgow. I mean, it is a absurd. John Lithe, wow. It's a better Rosalini.

Oh, wow. It's an incredible ensemble cast. It is like one of those. It's like this acting powerhouse. I really, really enjoyed it. Just, man, they're just acting their asses off. This is like, it reminds me of, especially like, looking down the barrel of Oscar week. Like, this is an Oscar movie to a team.

Hold space for it. I will hold space for it. It's great. But I guess we got to hold space to get on out of here, guys. Unless, did you have anything else you wanted to share, MJ? I know that, you know, we don't worry, guys. I'll be back talking about Real Housewives very soon. had to just take a break so that I could just talk towards MJ about Jill Zarin and the rest of my friends that live inside of my head.

Baldwin took way too much precedent. Like that was, oh, certainly. And don't worry, talking TV ain't going anywhere. We will be here every week. And we might have a new name by next week and we'll find out, I guess. Who knows what's going to happen? Thank you guys so much for hanging with us. And thank you, Holden.

Thank you, Holden. Thank you, welcome. You're welcome back anytime. Yes, and you're definitely going to be back and we're going to be doing this again soon in the future, so don't you worry. I would say unless it's too short of a season, maybe when the bald ones wraps up.

Absolutely. Well, yeah, unless it ends up accidentally only being two or three episodes. We're actually about having, based on the reviews they're getting it. You never know, but I will watch every second they put out the gate. Oh, man, I can't wait. I can't wait. And thank you so much, Holden. Thank you all, very much.

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