Page 7 - Value Steaks and Meaty Chips w/ Amber Nelson

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

This week on Page 7, MJ and Jackie are joined by LPN's very own sloppy steak lover Amber Nelson as Jakzig stops by to serenade after their debut performance on "Last Stream" this past Tuesday! Amber's schoolin' eeeerrybody on the origins of punk, MJ's here to remind everyone 'bout The Curse of The Lil Rascals! (not to mention just the curse of being a child actor in general) Speakin' of child stars, Ariana Grande got a tattoo to match Ricky Alvarez because that's what a totally rational person does. Reese Witherspoon and Will Ferrell apparently had some hot takes about Disney Adults that upset people, but there's also an issue with weirdo adults creepin' on the Disney character actors at the park, SO SOME CRITICISCM IS NEEDED MAN. Kaia Gerber told everyone she was possessed as a kid and had to have a digeridoo exorcism performed on her by order of her momma Cindy Crawford, so...that's also totally normal. And then we got us a LIST of "15 Celebrities Who Exposed The Rude, Weird, And Seriously Questionable Things Other Stars Said To Them In Private", followed by BLINDZ, then it's onto a meatsynced Jackie's Snackies starting @ 01:12:04 followed by more MEAT FLAVOR during MJ's Minute Munchies @ 01:17:47 until @ 01:23:27, PLUS SO MUCH MORE!!!! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome, welcome, everybody, to page seven. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. And I'm MJ. The story of the week is the devastating loss of Hayden Paneteer. But here at page seven... Amber. Tell your children not to walk my way. Oh.

Tell your children not to hear my words, what they mean, what they say. Amber. Not about to see your life. But if I can show you what it's like, Tell you, I'll be Dan! Uh-oh, for those out there that maybe got to see me be Jack Zig this week, I hope that you are enjoying hearing Mother done a second time. Yes, for those of you that do not know,

I am doing a version of Danzig over on the last podcast stream, the stream on the left, and it's going to be, it's going to be. And you will have seen it already by the time this has come out, so I thought that I would, you know, just at least squeak it out here first. But also, Amber Nelson is joining us on this week's episode of page seven. Can we give her a round of applause? Thank you. Thank you.

Great to be here. Thank you. Jackie, you have a great voice for punk rock. Whoa. Because you have a good voice already, but now you got that edge. Thank you. You got that New York City edge to you. Oh, my gosh, from Jackie Jet.

Jackie Jet. That'd be great. Maybe you should, um... And I slice and I slice and I slice. That's what Jackie Jette. Jet does. She slices and she sings. Now that Good Charlotte is under some scrutiny because of Hillary Duff's relationship with that guy from Good Charlotte when she was 16 and he was 25, maybe you could replace

become the Good Charlotte frontman. Whoa. Do you think I could also bring this one Danzig song that I know that I could, is that what's going to really take me to the top here, guys? It's a generational difference, I think, between the Good Charlotte people and the Danzig people, unfortunately. Certainly there is. And I imagine a lot of the Danzig people. people probably don't want to be compared to the Good Charlotte people. And you can let us know

Page 7 Podcast at gmail.com if you are upset. Right, because Good Charlotte's more like rar with like the gloves with stripes on them. And Danzing's more like I'm doing drugs in the bathroom. Gloves with stripes on them like Mickey Mouse, but in prison? Like the drugs with stripes, the gloves with stripes on them like they're long. You know what I mean. Long fingered. I just imagine them just dragging their fingers on the floor as they're trying to play the good and they're like, I'm trying here, but I keep dating these 16-year-olds. I don't remember much about Good Charlotte except at the time. I was like, they're not really punk.

Green Day is the real punk. That's about as far as it goes. If you get it as up, page 7 podcast at g-mell.com, if you want to let us know what's actually really punk because I hate to break it, TMJ. I hate it. I'm pretty sure it's not Green Day nor Good Charlotte. But, yeah.

This will ignite the punks. Punk sound off. Sound off. Come at us. You know we're not punkists here, but I'm down and I support your movement. But Amber, you're a bit of a punkist.

I do love punk. I like that it's just very anti-establishment. And you don't have to look or dress or be a certain way. I think it's more of an attitude. You're right. It's a mindset. I mean, I had a big,

everyone knows me for my ska. But if you don't love me at my sky, you can't accept me at my punk. I also had a big I'm a punk phase, which, yeah, I mean, of course, people who say it's Green Day, you can always name an earlier punk band. You can say the sex pistols or the remote, but I think Green Day has cred, early Green Day. And then it got weird. And then it got weird.

Later Green Day got a little weird. One of the bands that kind of helped start, like that garage punk sound, is this band called Lo Psychos. And they started in the 60s in Peru. So this is before the Internet, of course. But like through word of mouth in the 1960s, people were like, holy shit. They're now one of my top five bands. They've only had one album. But I, this weekend, I was feeling kind of down and a little sad.

Why? How dare. Who did this to you, Amber? The world. And then my roommate was like, let's go out. And I was like, I don't want, okay. Are you talking like, let's go out, out? Yeah, like, let's go, like, get out of this house.

And I was like, okay, I guess I'll drag my feet. And I just had jeans. And I was like, I'm not dressing up. I barely even put on makeup. I don't know what fuck. I'm just see. And then a Lo-Sikos cover band was at the bar. Is that what you posted?

Oh, that's awesome. Look at that. That's fun. Yeah, seeing live music really is a great way to get yourself out of a funk. And it really goes to show that it can be a bar band. It can be like it doesn't have to be Le Miz in concert at Radio City. It could be any musical performance. But it could be.

It could be laymins in concert. I mean, and this is coming from Amber. She loves value steak. and meaty chips Nelson. And that is how I described you yesterday when I was looking for, I mean, maybe that is an intro into whatever snack we might have later on.

But over the weekend, MJ, I did get an opportunity to see Amber eat. I'm gonna say, I think, the second cheapest steak you've ever eaten. Right, the first cheapest was on Bourbon Street. It was on Bourbon Street. I think it was like $10, but he said it's the cheapest steak on Bourbon Street.

Sheepest mistake on Bourbon Street. And that got Amber right into that establishment. It was picked up. Literally, you called, barking on the street. Cheapest state than Bourbon Street. And Amber's like, I gotta get in there. Get me in there. It makes me so, and it was so funny because we were at this dive bar.

It was awesome. Eddie put, like, had this awesome Disney show, Dead Man Tell Some Tales. It was great. And it was really, truly wonderful. and I'm definitely going to talk about it later on because I got the opportunity to play the Queen of Hearts again, which I got to do on Hoopagoooooo. And check that out if you were wondering

if I just screech as the Queen of Hearts. But I didn't realize that I connect with the Queen of Hearts so much. We get to boss men around. So I think that's what the thing here. It really, I got a lot out that I needed to get out that I didn't realize I needed to get out. And then as I was on stage doing this, it was like, you're being very, very mean right now.

I was allowed to be. It's hilarious. It's the beauty of being in character, y'all. But after the show, we find this dive bar. And I don't know how we found this spot. It's like sailors themed. It was sailor themed, but also because we were in there with a bunch of Disney people, they took over the jukebox and they were playing a bunch of Disney songs at this dive bar at, you know, 1130.

And it was, we were getting some interesting looks. Wait, I want to know, do you remember any of the songs, like specifically? I'm talking great big, beautiful tomorrow. I'm talking, we're not talking like a whole new world. No. We're talking deep cuts that they happen to have on the jukebox. Fascinating. Wow.

A lot of men just kind of looking at us. Yeah. Single men. Very upset with what was happening. And Amber and I are just like, not us. It's nice. It's not really coming from us. But you know what was coming from us?

And that was the smell of a, what was it called? baseball steak. Yeah, I'd never heard of it. Baseball steak, and I was like, I'll take it. It was like 20 bucks with that mashed potatoes and peas. I heard her ask the woman who could not have cared less.

She was like, what's the best thing you got here? And she's like, I don't know. Just staring at Amber. This is not that type of place. I don't have recommendations for you. And it was so adorable because Amber's like, well, it says here on the menu. It's famous baseball steak.

It said famous baseball steak on it. So Amber immediately purchased it. So funny. And they're like, come on, guys. Everybody's got to get some steaks. And Eddie's like, get some food. I was like, I'm okay. You know, I just had poo-poo fruit.

I don't need, you know, the cheapest. Did you go to the bathroom? Down that haunted hallway? No, I did not go to the bathroom. This place, like, it was attached to this, like, what I could only describe as like a haunted apartment complex that, like, the black dahlia must have lived in there. Like that kind of thing.

You are correct. That is about it. And then you have to go through this mailbox area down a set of stairs and there's like no lights. And Ed said there was just a giant cockroach in the bathroom. And then he told the front desk guy and he was just like, I don't care. Not my problem. My problem. Now how was the steak?

Good. It was good. She said it was pretty good. It was pretty good. The cheapest steak on Bourbon Street, that was not very good. I was very hungover, and also their bathrooms had literal fecal matter dripping from the side of the toilet, like, all, like, around, like kissing and hugging the edge. Actually, it's kind of nice because it's like, oh, the steak is so great that it explodes out of you. It can't even be contained.

I think that was like $7 to $10. Cheapest steak on Bourbon Street. Cheapest steak on Boobin Street. I mean, that'll get Amber right in there. MJ, what is the cheapest amount you would spend on a steak? I don't eat steak and so I'm over here trying really hard to conjure what is an appropriate price for a steak. When you said 20 bucks, I was like, that sounds expensive, but it sounds like it's not for a steak. No, it's not, MJ.

You're going to want to pay more for a steak. What do you pay for a steak, Jackie? I mean, I'm going to be real with you. Oftentimes I will get on a high horse that it really depends on the steakhouse of if I feel the preparation and if the quality is good. sometimes I feel like they charge a lot of money for a steak, all right? And it's too much. And I'm just like, okay, out back. I understand the economy is different now.

But he thinks that this meat quality has not changed. But there are certain places that you go and you're like, you know, it's like that you do spend like the, you know, you get one of the tomahawks that they say is for two, but those are usually like, you know, like $200 steaks that you eat. You're just like, oh. And just every. It makes me think of what about Bob

when ever they're eating everything. Mmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And I do live, I'm always chasing that experience. The butter, the salty butter meaty. Mmm, salty butter meaty. See, value steaks and meaty chips. I love that. I love it.

MJ, are you vegetarian? I'm not anymore. I was for a long time, but steaks just never been my jam. And even if they get to the point where I could afford nice food, which I think I could, I'm certainly not, you know, there was like a whole year where, you can afford nice food.

Okay, brag much. No, you know, like there was a year where in New York where I would work until six in Manhattan and then I would go to, you know, shows afterwards and I would not allow myself to spend more than $3 on a meal. And I did that for a full year. And it was either pizza or falafel and, or dumplings. And, you know, but now I think that I have, I've like done damaged, to myself so that even if I can have nice food, I'm like, is it worth it?

Shouldn't I just be eating trash? No, it is worth it, MJ. I've like Irish Catholic austerityed myself into like I don't deserve nice things so that even if I'm like at a nice restaurant, I'm like, this isn't this isn't that much better than the $2. Vanessa's dumplings on 14th Street that I got. You got dumplings at home. Yeah, exactly.

You're essentially that meme. Right. You know, we need all kinds out here. You know, you guys know I still eat, even though I'm pretty sure that's where I got it from, I still go to Taco Bell. I mean, speaking of trash person, you can't keep me away. I was back, I think, not even 10 days later. And I just, because I had to wait for it to move through my body. Yeah.

So thank you Taco Bell for giving us the diet standards like we see in Desperate Housewives. Amber this morning, MJ and I were watching Desperate Housewives, and there's a whole, the whole storyline of Gabrielle, who is, Ava Longoria. Who is, she's trying to teach these young girls how to be models. And she's like, and one of the girls asked, do models eat pizza? And she's like, sometimes, but then they have a finger for dessert. And which is, guys, see, look at Amber.

Finger for dessert. 2006, man. They could just do so much. So much on TV. Anything. In fact, you know, guys, while Amber is here,

we try to keep it light while Amber's around, you know, because we know that Amber talks about a lot of upsetting things on her other show, not on brighter side, which is where you get the reprieve,

but we're talking about Spun. But unfortunately today, we would be remiss if we did not bring up. the very, very sudden and very tragic death of Hayden Panetteer. And I just wanted, we need to at least bring it up and acknowledge it because it is very tragic. And now, of course, a lot is coming out about the final interviews she had been having and her memoir had just dropped. And it seemed that she was still very much struggling. And it is, it's just really, it's genuinely so sad.

She's what, 36? She was 36 years old. Well, she had postpartum, I read, and then apparently her delivery was like hours and hours, like something like 13 to 16 hours, and she had to get seven blood transfusions. And then when her baby was finally put in her arms, she said she, quote, unquote, felt nothing. And I think that we just need to do more research on postpartum care because what the fuck? Totally. This is, yeah, I'm like, I'm so sad about Hidden Paneteer.

hence like I'm like let's keep talking about stakes but we got to talk about it we just at least need to don't worry we'll be pausing in just a moment so we'll be able to move on I just want we needed to bring up the fact that it is and it's just taken Hollywood by storm and really so many people are coming out just talking about just having wonderful experiences with her and and unfortunately I think it started long before the postpartum and I think that that just certainly didn't help anything and I'm grateful to her for speaking about that. Any time a celebrity speaks about struggles with, like,

Britney Spears spoke about perinatal depression for depression while she was pregnant. And I'm like Hayden Panetteer saying, like I saw that, like she said, I thought that you're supposed to see the baby and feel this rush a love and I did not feel that. And I feel like talking about the postpartum mental health struggle is so important. Obviously, she had a lot of other things that she was struggling with too. But yeah, it's, she's a bright, shining talent. an amazing person despite all the stuff that she, you know, was dealing with.

And I really, this one's hitting really hard. And thank you so much for sharing that, but I am going to silence you right now because we've got to hear from our sponsor. Very cogent point, MJ. And I'm really glad that we stopped because honestly, I was, it was getting too real for me, all right? Sometimes in page seven, things stop getting polite and start getting real. And I'm worried that you guys are going to take me to Seattle and slap me.

And yes, I'm referring to the real world. I'm always thinking about reality somewhere, guys. But not our current reality. I want to leave that outside. I think that so we'll get much more into all of the Hayden Paneteer stuff on tomorrow's show. Second helpings. That's where we can kind of go deeper. But, I mean, just, you know, at page seven for celebrities,

we read both Jeanette McCurdy's memoir and Alison Stoner's memoir. Alison Stoner had a very emotional post about Hayden Panetier yesterday. because they work together. Excuse me. Alison Stoner was just sobbing. Yes. It's really so many people are truly devastated. Yeah.

Very shocking. I bring up Jeanette McCurdy and Alison Stoner because both of them were child stars. And obviously so is Hayden Panette Thier. And both of their memoirs are just scorching, scathing, scathing, indictments of what it's like to be a child star and what the industry does to them. And, you know, we now just have a lot, how many actresses specifically, but actors to child actors of that generation, like a little younger than us, the like Nickelodeon, Disney, and Hayden Panette here wasn't quite on that track.

But like how, like the list of, you know, from Amanda Binds to like Aaron Carter to Hayden Panad. It just feels like I just, I'm screaming over here. Like I really think something has to change like profoundly. Yeah. You know. And didn't they have a countdown clock for the Olson twins to turn 18? Oh, yeah. Like, take the guys out who said that and, like, shoot them in the back of the head.

Like, why are we just allowed? We're like, well, I can't believe they just said that. It's crazy. It's like, no, kill them. They need to die. I'm sorry. Yeah. And also, though, we're talking next week.

We have two episodes getting into the nitty-gritty of Liza Minnelli. And it's crazy to think that we were just talking about Judy Garland. And I know while they're not getting the uppers and down. straight from the studio execs, it really does seem like they're not helping a lot of people. I don't think that they've learned much since the time of Judy Garland

when they just destroyed her. Right, well, Henry does sell me uppers and downers. I mean, yeah, how do you think we get all this work done? He's a different type of us. When I was a kid, I know I've mentioned this before and that nobody cares, but I was really, really, really, really obsessed with the little rascals.

No, all right, alfalfa. I think it's just the curse of being a child actor. Like from the 1920s, all of the little rascals met horrible ends. And they acted like it was kind of this unique thing to the little rascals. And I just, you know, I've been on my high horse of like abolished child acting. But I just, like I said, the Haman Pantir stuff is hitting so hard. And after all of these documentaries about what the Nickelodeon kids went through and, you know, I just, I was thinking about the curse of. of the little rascals because I was like, I think the curse.

Yes, I do. I'm living in the curse of the little rascals. No, I just think that it's... I'm living the curse of the little rascals. I'm living the curse of the little rascals. No, no, I will never put my children in the entertainment industry because it's full of sharks. But that's crazy thing to say, MJ. Ariana Grande's doing fine and she was a child actress.

I mean, she got back together with her backup dancer boyfriend that she had already been with already publicly wrote like, I hate you Ricky songs. And now they're back together and don't worry immediately they have matching. I do love you tattoos on their collarbones. No, never get a matching tattoo with somebody ever. And this is not even her first matching tattoo. It's not. In fact, she had them with Pete Davidson, right? She had them with Pete Davidson. And we also here at page seven made many jokes because she and Cynthia Arrivo both got. for good tattooed on their hands. Everything's matching tattoos on our fucking body.

But also it is funny because for good, that is what it's the tattoo says, but everyone knows tattoos on your, the palms of your hands are not for good. They actually go away. So it's already fading and I think that's very funny. And I don't think the I do love you is going to be fading anytime soon though. I was always told that like word. tattoos are like that you should use them sparingly. It's not cool.

Because I always wanted just like every song lyric that ever resonated with me, I wanted to put it on my body. And, you know, people were like, you got a really, you don't want to just cover your body in long strings of words. Although maybe they were wrong. Letting you know, MJ, it's actually, in tattoo culture, it's actually come full circle. Now it is back in vogue to get word tattoos,

especially like light and black and fine gray line work and stuff like that. So it is back. And I know that it hurts my chest that I have definitely made, I think made mention before that my tattoos now immediately age me because I have been told by multiple people that that is very millennial to get big, like traditional bold tattoo work. And in the new version, it is more either the, cyber, like that cyber lightning, like that, I don't know, whatever that stuff is, or it's like

light words or light drawings and like little doodles. And then one day that'll be considered like old. So it all comes full circle, y'all. Whenever I see somebody with a tribal tattoo, I know you had a crazy time in the early 2000s. I know you probably like almost signed up to go to the war in Iraq and you probably like, you definitely went on spring break in Miami. You definitely went on spring break in Miami. Rum spring break. Yeah. I'm sorry. You were talking about Rum Springer earlier. Because I look like I'm going to Rum Springer right now.

I thought I was like, oh, I'll wear combat boots in a dress and I look, I just look like I'm going to Run Springer. No, you look great. You look a lot better than Ricky and Ariana Grande do right now with their matching tattoos. Now, I guess question for you guys. Now, you said never get a matching tattoo. I just meant like never get, like, I would never put a guy's name on my body. They're like, I love you, James.

Let me get it on my body. Absolutely not. And the same goes for like any other couple. Maybe your kids, because your kids will stay with you forever. But you don't know where this person's going to be next year. And it kind of sounds like branding. I like the idea of being like, not sure about the kids either. But no, I would totally get my, like,

I have talked about like trying to get like artwork from the kids or something tattooed. But I know a couple who got like instead of rings, they got like tattooed. Tats instead rings. Do they work in blue collar industries? I don't know, but I know that they are no longer together. So I think that's, you know, yeah. Yeah. Just got a mark on your finger. Or I guess, you know, so it sounds like Ariana got, she just morphed some of those Pete Davidson tattoos into other tattoos or got them removed. But you'd think that once you had to get your lovers tattoos removed, you would not get another lover's tattoos. But it's really like it's a Tobias Fuenke. But this type. time, it'll be different, you know. Right. It really, it really is. Now, I have a matching tattoo with my husband. It is not his name. It's the outline of a Bigfoot and we got it on our honeymoon. And it's also hidden. And I feel like that is the kind of thing that like if you were to, personally, I feel like then at least if anything were to happen, it's hidden. Not everybody can see it. And it's Bigfoot. It's Bigfoot. It's bigfoot with a liner on it. It looks cool. And I love Bigfoot. Yeah. But is it hidden from your heart?

Because I feel like it's not what other people think about your tattoo. It's that if you break up with your, obviously you and Jeff are never going to break up because you're perfect. Never ever, ever going to break up. We're changing it, yeah. But I feel like what would be sad to me is not, oh, everyone knows I have this matching tattoo with my husband, but that every time I see it, it would ignite, I don't know, a sadness or a rage or a mix. You know what's really crazy. At some point you start getting enough tattoos that you don't see.

a lot of them anymore. Now, I also am bad that, like, I don't know if I really want a lot of tattoos on my back because I can't see them. And I have realized that, like to see the work that has been done. I like to see what the pain has begat me. I mean, you have

good tattoos. Thank you. I appreciate that. But I also, I get, you know, as long as I can, the best part is that I can't, sorry, take it over again. My brain know when your brain starts moving too fast

and then I can smell it overheating. You got a lot going on. I got a lot going on inside of here. But what I was talking about is then they hide from you. Like this one that's huge on my arm, I don't even see it most of the time because of where it is on my body.

So if you can't see it, it doesn't exist. And it doesn't matter. When I was 18, I almost got my way or the highway on my back as a tramp stamp. The lip biscuit link. Oh my God, let's go get them done. And I'll get a matching tramp stamp stamp with you that says,

My Way or the Highway. This time I'm going to let it all hell out. My way, you're the highway. Oh, my God. This is going to be great for our branding. It's a great reveal because if you are getting intimate with somebody and then they discover that. That was my only tattoo. Wouldn't it be hilarious?

I only have one little, and like you think it's like a little butterfly. This is My Way of the Highway. Huge and like Roman font just taking up. your whole lower back and the top of your ass too. So they can't cover it at all. No. I want to know a little bit more about this Disney adult show that you mentioned earlier. I know that, so you included this link of Reese Witherspoon and Will Ferrell talking about

Disney adults and how it's weird. And then a bunch of people were like, they're mean. It's not weird. And I feel like we have to, we can have both. Right. I want to, I love a fandom and I think that we embrace fandoms here. We do. And I just, I'm, I know Ed is a Disney adult. Ed is like a Disney adult. The biggest Disney adult. And so I, I just wanted to see if either of you guys had wanted a little platform to explore your views on the Disney adult. I feel like Disney adults. And this is also coming from Amber who did come to see the show.

And you know, and you came out, which I really appreciated. I love seeing you out there. You came to see the show. I'm glad that we're talking about this. Everybody did a great job on the show. Thank you. That's why I brought you. That's why I brought it is up. Yes. Disney adults, I don't think they're hurting anybody. I think it comes from a place where you want a walkable, nostalgic city where there's no crime. And I think it might... Oh, it's like a utopianist.

It's a utopianist. And I think it also might stem from a little bit of early trauma where you probably had a very... Oh, I don't know about that. That's what Will Ferrell and Amy Polar said and then everyone was like, you know, the Disney adults I think were like, plug off. No, because you might have had a hard childhood where things were outside of your control

and then now you can go inside the Magic Kingdom. No one dies here. Look, there's Mickey and Minnie. Oh, wow. Everything's walkable and clean and safe. And then you could just like put on sleeping beauty, put on a movie and it's like calm and comforting. And the stories are, they derive

from like old stories. So it just feels like it's inherent. Right. And daddy's not yelling at mommy. Right. And I also wonder though if, I mean, it's possible that some Disney adults had such a good childhood. Yes. Maybe they're having a traumatic adulthood. Right. And they're like, you know what? Childhood is awesome. Yeah. Let me keep going back to those memories and those feelings. And we need to just, we just need to revert back. And because here's the thing, I really genuinely don't have any issue with most Disney adults. I think a lot of them that I've met, my, slime from chat.

Like we know many. Eddie is an amazing Disney adult. I can't wait to go to Disney with my children with Eddie as our shepherd. He's going to know exactly where to go. He has everything memorized. Like that's why I feel like we can talk about this because we know and love like true Disney adult. And with absolutely zero judgment about it.

And but that's what I love about this show that Eddie does. It's like the dark underworld of Disney. So it's not. So it's for Disney adults, but it's also for people like us that are like, oh, but also some weird shit happens at Disney that everything gets covered up. So they also are experiencing that. I actually really wanted to talk about this show because it was so fun that we were like hanging out because D23 was over the weekend, which is like the Disney convention. And so it was a big deal. So a lot of Disney influencers were in town.

That's why this show happened. and it was fun to talk to them where a lot of them have like PG, maybe PG-13 content, maybe. And it was fun talking to them, but tell me what you really know. And like one of them was telling me about his favorite character is Tarzan, and it makes him so sad because they can't have Tarzan be a character at the park anymore. because, and it was all across the board, gender-wise, but a lot of women just wouldn't keep their hands to themselves. Whoa. And that this is, I also included this link that I just put in the doc, MJ,

that an ex-Peter Pan performer has shared his genuinely harrowing experience with another stalker at Disneyland after a TikToker's interaction with him went viral. These poor character actors, and this has been rampant that they just, people are just like you're not you're a thing I'm just gonna oh I'm you're I can do whatever I want to you they're still a human being you can't just put your hands all over somebody's chest they do the same thing at like male go go dancer clubs oh my god I almost went to this place called Los Globlos where they have men and thongs dancing around I thought it'd be great yes yes yes yes yes yes yes there was a lot of disclaimers like before you even bought the tickets it was like you cannot touch them

you cannot touch them they are people and I was like what is going on at Los Globo. Dude, do I ever tell you that this one male strip club on 9th Ave in New York, and I'll never forget because the women were so scary. I've been to many female strip clubs. I'm from,

I'm sorry, I'm from Tampa, which I believe has the highest amount of strip clubs per capita or something, so thank you. So yeah, I've been to many of them before. I have never seen people act so reprehensible before. They were actually, like,

The men coming around delivering drinks, not the strippers, they would like try to rip their underpants off as they're just doing their job. Oh my God. Like, I don't, y'all know, I'm a horny gremlin over here. But I'm not like, like, I couldn't imagine putting my hands and trying to rip off somebody's underwear while they're at work. That's assault. But the Peter Pan story is even weirder because Peter Pan's a boy.

That's the whole point. I mean, I know the actor is a young man, but like the character is a forever boy. And this TikTok person who's like, oh, I'm just having a fun little stalking experience of Peter Pan. And it's like, this is not the, you're going to want to reevaluate like how you present here. Like this is, this is not, you got to find an adult character to stalk at the very late. Yeah, that's the one. Like, at least have a crush on Gaston or something. You know what that's a thing.

Yeah, Gaston, the beast, anybody. Gaston also is having a lot of difficulty. performing at, because he also gets grabbed on. Really? Oh, yeah. And they're like, oh, you're a big man. You can take it. Like, there's that mentality.

And so I really was just like talking to them that I was like, what's something you know that you could never say? You know, like, I just kept like trying to like, tell me all the. And then they didn't, they almost didn't want to. And in my brain, I'm like, that's because it's a cult. But I didn't say that aloud to them. They really didn't want to speak poorly. of the institution overall. Well, they might have signed an NDA.

Who knows? I don't know anything about the world of Disney influencing. All I know is that they're having a great time, having a great big, beautiful tomorrow, and we love that for them. But we can't be out there grabbing boys and grabbing on men either, because it doesn't really matter.

Yes, that's true. Don't grab on men and wear boys, guys. Don't grab on any of them. Now, Ursula, she's asking for it. I mean, she's got those tentacles out, and that's just not on me. Like, that's on her. She's the great molester. You know, she got eight tentacles.

Yeah, exactly. Great molester. And hopefully that's not what we're going to hear more about during this ad break. But what if it was? What if we signed off on it? But what if we signed off on it? Then what are you going to do? And that's on us.

But I'm really, you know, I'm going to have more and more fun with these transitions as time goes on. I think you guys can tell. But I really am not a specifically, I'm more of a coaster gal. Did I rant towards these poor Disney people about my feelings about Disney taking them up? Yeah, of course. Like, I just, I just, I just spewed at them. And then one of them, oh my God, there's like

super, like, you can only get this Muppet merch at the con and they don't sell it anywhere else. And now I've got to hook up. Whoa. Yeah, I got a hook up to the Muppet merch, so this is big for me.

Who's your favorite Muppet? Oh, it depends on the day. Really? Really. I'm a Rizzo enthusiast, first and foremost. He's the rat, right? Yes. Oh, yeah. And it depends.

I mean, you know, throw a Pepe in there. Throw, you know, I'm down. It used to be forever. It was Fuzzy. But that changed in time. Which one's Fuzzy? The funny bear. The comedy bear.

Amber. I'm trying to not get upset with you right now. I'm trying to not get upset with you right now. Who's Fossi? I didn't watch the Muppets growing up on us. Who's Fuzzy? I know I'm being like one of those, you haven't seen the godfather?

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But for us. The Muppets are the godfather of culture. I mean, they're lovely. I saw them take Manhattan. I saw them take Manhattan. That's why I don't like them.

They don't trust them again. I saw them take Manhattan. Or no, it was the Christmas one, the Christmas Carol one. Muppet Christmas Carol. Ed showed me that one. I cried at the end. It's such a beautiful show. It was written by Charles Dickens, so it's very well written.

Yeah. Right. Just very heartwarming and like the characters are also different. But at the same time, MJ, so is Ebenezer. And it doesn't mean we're going to go see that. either. Well, I don't know if Ebenezer was written by Charles Dickens because it seems to be unnecessary filler before. I mean, Charles Dickens wasn't right in the prequels. Amber, there's this new Johnny Depp version of Christmas Carol coming out called Ebenezer and it's literally

a tagline is like before he was Scrooge. He was Ebenezer. But then you watch the trailer and it's just the story for a Christmas story. Christmas Carol, I imagine it's going to, they're going to, oh, but it's from the stalking. point of view. Like, I feel like it's going to be one of those and I couldn't care less. I've always gotten the ick from him and we don't have to get too much into it. I'm on Amber Heard's side. I'll say that publicly. Yeah, you can get the it from him. Yeah, I think we're allowed to say that here. We can say that here. Yeah, no. I'm allowed to say that. Yeah, everyone got so weird about that. But I just love saying that, you know, the Christmas Carol's a great story because

Jackie and I watched 10 Things I Hate About You, which will be coming out over the break as one of our at 10 Things I hate About You watch along. And you can fully watch along with us over on the Patreon. Patreon.com slash page 7 podcast. We have the full movie up there and you can watch us watch it. But I went to meet a friend afterwards and I was like, I just watched 10 Things I Hate About You and man, that story really holds up. And the friend was like, it's because it's written by William Shakespeare.

And I said, you're right. Oh, shit. But they could have torched with it and they did it. You know what I mean? Like, you're right. But it's still, you met the movie. And also, okay, snob. You know what?

I take it, okay. Because it was written, I don't think William Shakespeare was writing in. Heath Ledger sings, I can't smile without you up on the fucking bleachers, okay? If somebody's doing that to you,

if you want to get even snottier, just say, was it Shakespeare or was it Moliere? Because there's a big debate that Moliere actually wrote Shakespeare. If you were like, out-cunned somebody, do that. Yes, yes.

You can't correct me. I'll correct you. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Get him right back. Get him right back. But you know, there's not a lot of things that we're going to be getting right back to, except for the fact that Kya Gerber, so Nepo baby, we're talking neps right now. She's Cindy Crawford. Cindy Crawford's child, 24-year-old. I will say, is gone beyond. How dare I, Jackie, at this point? She's more small than a Nepo. She's more than a nepo, okay? She's also possessed by a demon. and that's where we're going to leave that. Isn't she the one that was like filming, she was in college and she was like, I'm just here to have fun.

Oh, was she? Yeah. No. Kaya, or are you thinking of maybe you're thinking of Apple? Or you're thinking of Apple Paltrow? No. Excuse me, not Apple Paltrow.

What's her last name? Martin, Apple Martin. No, it was the Gerber baby. She was like doing these, kind of get ready to meet with me from college. And granted, like, she's in college. I'm not going to hold her to a high standard. And yeah, you are there to have fun.

but some people look at college as like, oh my God, this is my only way out. Yeah, I think a lot. I mean, I imagine a lot of people out there, too, you know. But I did want to just leave it there that she was possessed by a demon as a child and she underwent an exorcism. What? She sure did. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't think that it is child abuse per se to put a child through an exorcism. But like, you got to like really know there's a demon in there. Right? Yeah, I think this story reflects poorly on Cindy Crawford. That's my takeaway. Yeah, I guess I'd take that too. Although, man, if someone offers me an exorcism, I'm not going to turn them down. Just to see, like, while I'm here, you may as well see if you can shake a demon out. Clean out the cobwebs. I mean, who knows what's in there? It's like how we all used to be scared to we're going to wake up someday with schizophrenia. You know, it's like, who knows what could be hiding in the shadows. and I don't want it to be awoken, at least not before I read the list.

Oh, who's on the list? Me, got to have that list. Fifteen celebrities who exposed the rude, weird, and seriously questionable things other stars said to them in private. Oh. Seth Rogan recalled the bizarre time he and Jud Appetow were hanging out at Tom Cruise's house in 2006, when Tom started talking to them about Scientology. According to Seth, Tom offered to spend about 20 minutes explaining what the religion was really about.

And Seth later joked that he was relieved, Judge, shut the conversation down because Tom was so convincing. He said, if I was there alone, I would be singing a very different tune right now, Seth said. It does not appear that Tom or his team has responded to Seth's account. I mean, Tom's Cruz, Tom. He sees like a giant movie star. Like, who am I? Tom. Tom, we know we're talking about. Tom Cruise is, I mean, he is a big movie star and he's just very like, he can connect to you.

Through the fucking screen. I can imagine being, like, not Scientology necessarily, but I can definitely imagine being persuaded into joining a cult. Like, especially by like an attractive, charismatic actor. I know that I referred to Disney as a cult earlier. I say this out of love. It is still surprising to me to this day that I am not a part of a cult. I guess the network is kind of like as close of a cult as I can be.

But every time I watch cult docu-series and especially the ones that are like, we just smoke, we didn't have six, man. Like, what's the problem? I'll join. Yeah. If I was pitched that 10 years ago, you would have never seen me ever yet. Like if someone asked me, but the problem was no one was looking me up and down and was like, that's the one we need in our cult, you know?

No one ever wants me. And I think it's because I blab And I would talk too much about it Yeah, you talk too much and you're very much like, get off me! They don't like it. They don't like that. No. And this conversation between Seth Rogen and Tom Cruise

happened in 2006, which crucially is before that documentary came out. And I think that in 2006 it might have been easier to be like, oh, maybe this is a fine conversation to have. And then I want to say like whenever that, I think it was 2013 or 2014 when that documentary came out about the miscavages. And I think since then, it's going to be harder to convince me to join Scientology.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, especially when like all the things we know about Scientology, not very good. And then maybe this is just coming from us that are in Los Angeles. So Scientology is still really everywhere here. Also me coming from living in Clearwater, Florida, which is the home of Scientology. So I've just been really drowning in Scientology for most of my life. And again, I've never joined it.

So it can't be that good of a cult. Good for you. Thank you. Well, cults are very. American thing, and in my opinion, is because we're such a car dependent area, and people are very lonely and they're broke, that you want, you want community and you want to be taken care of. Are you saying you're a member of a cult right now? I am. And what kind is it and can I join? It's called sociology. Okay. It's where we just, it's not Scientology. Okay. It's just sociology

where I'll sit and we talk about human experience. Oh, but there's no, like, nobody's getting drug. Nobody's good, unless you want to do drugs. Nobody, yeah, this is what I'm saying. Nobody's getting drugged. Amber, nobody. Step it up, step up your cult game. I know.

That's why nobody's joining. You gotta grease the wheels by grease in the palms with drugs. That's what I always say. So I guess all you have to do is offer drugs or offer a really convincing argument, which is what? Tom Cruise is known to do. I'm sure he wouldn't have been the first and I'm sure he wouldn't have been the last, Seth Rogen.

But Molly Bloom, the author of Molly's game, wrote that Toby McGuire was one of the biggest regulars at the secret high-stakes Hollywood poker games she ran. She described him as the worst tipper, the best player and the absolute worst loser. But she claimed that one night he held out a thousand-dollar chip and told her to bark like a seal who wants a fish if she wanted it. Molly said she refused and remembered feeling humiliated. She also wrote that Toby had initially helped her succeed, but later started turning on her as her role in the games grew. She said she was frustrated that he hassled her about the money she was making and publicly humiliated her.

There does not seem to be a response from Toby or his team to Molly's account now. MJ, I threw him away. I threw that Tobay, Bay, Bay, Bay, away with the bathwater a long time ago. And MJ, how does this make you feel? Because MJ still's got a little spark for the old pussy posse. I'm going to say, not captain, but admiral. Member, yeah, he's a high-ranking member. You know what it is?

It's not because it's not just Sam Ramey Spider-Man. It is the film Ciderhouse Rules that I really love him in. You kings of England. You children all right. You will never have a parent. I'm surprised he said that to them every single night. Was that Sider House Rules? That was Sider House Rules.

Thank you. Did you say children of rot? Yeah. It's kind of poetically. They're all orphans. Kings of, princes of Maine and kings of New England, I think is the line. It's a big long book. Blah, blah, blah.

It's a big long book written by John Irving that I really love the book. And then I really love the movie and I love Toby McGuire. And you love John Irving, MJ. I'm sorry. Not made for this time. That made for this time. Yes, my boner for Toby McGuire is gone because the blinds are getting rough out there. These days, a lot of Epstein on the blinds, and we don't talk about that here.

And a lot of Toby McGuire in the blinds. And I just can't, I can't bone for somebody who's in the blinds that way. No, especially if it's not, like, for positive reasons. It's always like, look at how young he's kissing. Wow, look at that tongue waggle into that child's mouth. But it's weird because he's such a nice guy. Like, he was cast as this nice guy. So, I mean, I guess he has something to prove.

He's like, you want me to be a nice guy? I'll be a sexual predator. That's how you prove it. That's always how it is, though, like the people that play the heroes and the nice guy, or at least in theater on plays that I did. It was always the person that played as the nice guy that was like, oh, get away from me backstage. But the villain was usually the nicest person.

Oh, my God, just like Javert, that I wanted to kiss him so badly when one of the other high schools did Le Miz, which they shouldn't have. But they killed it. they were at States and he played Javert and I was so in love with him, but it broke my brain. How could I be in love with Javert? I'm going through the same thing right now because the person who played Javert at Radio City Musical was the best actor I've ever seen in my life and now I have a crush on Javert. Oh, I mean, you got to.

That's why we got to get some of that Tom Cruise charm to charm him off that bridge. We can change him. We can fix him, please. We can fix him. and we can fix Chevere. Kathy Griffin said she was at a tiny dinner party with around eight people when she finally got the chance to talk one-on-one with Jack Nicholson about the departed. Then, according to Kathy, an allegedly wasted John Hamm started leaning over

and whispering insults in her ear, including, You're so old and you know your Emmys are fake Emmys. Kathy didn't remember it as playful teasing, and she said she never forgave Hammy for her. that, which also he's hammered. It's John Hamm. You're Kathy Griffin. I'm pretty sure you've

said a couple of things. You know what I mean? I feel like you could have a little bit more grace if you're her, right? Yeah, I wasn't there, of course, but maybe he was like, oh, she's a comedian. She can take it. You know, whenever I think that's it. I'll tell people I'm a comic and they'll be like, oh, and then they'll be like,

you can take the most insulting thing I can ever tell you. And I'm just like, actually, I'm sensitive. Idiot. Totally. People would just like, oh, I'll be mean to you And I'll call it funny. Please don't like this. Stop. Honestly, I think that's it.

I think he was trying to be, I think he was trying to be cheeky. He was trying to be cheeky. And recently I actually had an experience like this. It was someone which I hadn't had in a minute that someone that had only listened to me from Roundtable and then was talking to me as if I was still that and like was very like body but not in a funny way and very demeaning and not. Not in a funny way because they weren't, but like they thought that like, you can take it. And it's like, there's really, you don't know me. And that's, uh, also I've done so many things since Roundtable.

You're not an alcoholic anymore for sure. Yeah, I don't even drink. So it's like, I feel like this is, it's kind of, you know, my brain, you know, we forget that people can grow and change and also go from being nice Toby McGuire into being pussypossy, Toby McGuire, you know. Oh, that's his little cult where they go around, they just have lots of sex. With Leo.

Yeah. You know, as long as it's both okay from both parties, they're young, but they're consenting. Yeah, that's the word. I forgot what that meant. Consent. What's that word? What's are both agreed to it?

Oh, my God. Okay. Which also, we didn't even get into the, I forgot to bring up the, we're dating the same guy Facebook group. Amber, I have to, I have to at least, sorry. I end, end of the list. We have to bring this up real fast because it really is crazy to me that Facebook is so heavily. And the amount of people that have written in to who's the bitch about people that have

sought like put up logons. What am I? A thousand using these forums to find out if the person that they're dating is also dating many other people. And so many people find out that their person is dating other people or married or married. or married through these Facebook forums. And I was like, I don't even look at Facebook anymore. That that's, it's like, buy nothing groups and, and, and, and this. Because a lot of times, you know, so you go on a date.

I don't want to go into specifics on what happened, but like something bad happened. I'm safe. I'm physically safe. And then this person unmatches with you and can block with you on everything. So there's no reporting. You can't go report. But what you can do is just go on a group and say, hey, so just a little bit of a warning is that this is what this person is going to try to do.

You know, at your own discretion, go on the date, but here's a picture of them and here's what they're going to do. And then multiple people in that thread said, I wanted to date with him and they were very, he demanded a blowjob after dinner and then blocked me on everything when I said no.

He was very pushy with sex. He wanted to take the condom off. And I was just like, This is how people are finding out? This is how we find out. And then several girls, several girls on that thread were like, oh my God, I'm supposed to go on a date with him tomorrow or Friday or Sunday.

Like multiple people came out and they were like, thank you for like talking about this. And from the thread I posted, there's going to be like a resurgence in the group or mods are going to go through because I think there's secret in-cell dudes in there who are posting anonymously calling me a whore, calling.

This is no way a woman posted this. Truly disgusting. It's like bullying me to try to get it down because they knew that so many women were commenting saying, oh my God, I have a date with him. Oh my God, that was my experience too. And I'm like, wow.

Nuts. It's nuts. Thank you for sharing this. I just want, like, just because it really is crazy the amount, and that like, that this is like, now we have to use Facebook as a Yelp for dates because that's the only way we can find

if someone is safe or not? That's insane. I mean, granted, there's always, like, a line there where, like, you know, someone could be making stuff up, sure. But the amount of times where a woman has said, hey, I'm supposed to go on a date with him, something feels a little off. Any thoughts?

And the comments are like, he's married. That's my husband. The man, Aaron Sorkin should tell this story about Facebook, not the story about how Zuckerberg is, like, a misunderstood genius. This is, like, when Facebook becomes community care, it's, like, you know, the only times that Facebook is good is when it is community care, like ability to connect, same by nothing.

It's a great way of people to connect. Like, and I remember groups like this even existing like informally back in like, I have like back in like stand up days in New York in the early aughts. Oh yeah. People would try to exchange notes from like OKCupid if there was like predator guys. But yeah, like this is what's actually, this is the only good thing that this shit is for. And it's weird because these sites are regularly like being discussed of like should we take it down. but not the sites that are like, I know a girl who was in an underground website

where they just post nudes of women without their consent. So those are never really, or like that, what's that app where hundreds of thousands of men were talking about how to rape your wife? Oh, remember that one? Like, how do you do that? Yes, the academy, the academy of, they're teaching everybody. Yeah. Yeah, I really, I think about it all the time, Amber.

And I'm glad that we brought it up here today on page seven because I. You said keep it light. You say keep it light. Keeping it light. But I think women need to protect ourselves. We need to protect ourselves because you're right. It really is. It's just, it's insane.

And then you hear, that's why, part of the reason why we're talking about this, that I'm just saying that this is a place that you can go and hopefully get some answers if you need to. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy. I've seen women post stuff where they're just like bruising on them. And they're like, I've gone to the police, but there's only so much you can do,

but I'm just warning you about this person. Like, I swear to God, it's crazy. You know, Amber, every day when I ask you, have you sown your pussy shut yet? And you say not yet. Not yet. I think it's the perfect exchange. I think it's better than a high, how are you, you know? Right.

It's rough out there. And I know it's rough out there for everybody. And I don't want to be like a victim or a sob story. But it's because you don't know this person. And any kind of person can exist because anybody can have a kid. And I don't want to have a eugenics conversation. I think anybody should have a kid. But the only thing is...

But Sidney's sweetie always, she wants to. I've got great jeans. I've got great jeans. But that means any two people can just be like have a little bitty person in their life and be like, yeah, you can just do whatever you want and get away with it. Yeah, just go ahead

and line gaslight. And then that person grows up and then they exist in the world and they're on an app where you don't know anything about them. So you go out on a date and then like you have to go from there. Never trust. Never smile. You've heard it here. at page 7 first.

And never see because I think I'm going. Blind! It's time for blind items. Buckle up, Amber. This A-list actress from several hit shows who now stars in a popular commercial was once at a club back in the day.

The club was crowded. Our actress kept rudely shoving her way past people. After her third rude shoving trip, a woman said something to the actress, and the actress punched her and ran off. Yes, it is tough in the blinds these days, guys. It's either... Did you say famous commercial?

Okay, no, is it flown? No, she's like, yeah. The Pine Soll woman? No, this is actually, this is, at first I was like, wow, blinds were, yes, I am scraping the bottom of the barrel, but also this one is actually pretty fun. So she's an A-minus list actress. Okay.

She's also in a commercial. I'm going to be real with you. I don't remember what the commercial is. I don't even remember the last time I've seen a commercial, MJ. Doesn't matter. She's not known for her commercials. We talk about her on this show with some frequency. So she's not somebody who you'd be surprised to hear about.

Sounds like she was shoving at the club once. And she shoved somebody and then she punched them after somebody corrected her about it. She was shoving at the club. Bottle of Bub. My mom. I'm going to eat. It's fun because she's kind of famous for being very buff and strong. Buff and strong.

Is she the woman from the, it keeps happening over and over again? What's that movie? One battle after another. She's tough and strong. Oh, yeah, she is tough and strong. It's not Dayana Taylor, but I like calling it that movie, it keeps happening over and over again. It keeps happening over and over again.

I can't remember the time. It keeps happening over and over again. No, not her, but she is very tough and strong. No, this is like a... Kristen Stewart. No. Okay, let's see. She, oh, her ex-husband,

we love him, but he's a bit of a of a doof. We talk about him a lot. A lot. She's kind of like, Jennifer Lopez. You're so close. Jennifer Garner. You got it.

What commercial? I don't know. What fucking commercial? Jennifer Garner, she punched someone at the club, long story short. No, she didn't. Allegedly. She would never. Jennifer Garner is a goddamn goddess.

There's no way she would. Alias. She has the training, Jackie. We know she's very strong. She is very strong. That's why this item made me laugh so hard because I feel like they just chose a random woman with muscles. Amber, she would not agree. She would never.

No, she has like a garden and stuff, right? Yes. She loves Ina. She's like the most classy person in Hollywood. Which is why this one's kind of fun. I just like the idea of her shoving someone. three times and then somebody being like, you're shoving and her just, bam, right there.

I like that you think that she's known for being strong. Do you mean like of emotion? Or just? Isn't she alias, right? Oh, because of alias. Yeah, she's strong. She did get, she did get more jacked recently because she was in one of the Marvel movies

and she was talking about how she had to try to pretend like she still had a body like she did in alias. She does. Because of emotion. She's known for me. being like a very mussely woman, isn't she? No, no, she's known for like, pure chicken and eggs. And like, she loves hanging out with Ina and, like, having a glass of wine.

I think that's new. She's not, I love you, MJ. And you know, I never try to, you know, to say nay to you. I never would. But a strong woman doesn't evoke Jennifer Garner. I think so. I think of the alias. And I think of, what's that devil dog movie?

The devil. She's a devil. She's a devil. She's a devil dog. It's just called, hey, that bitch. But she's an Aries. Fun fact. So she is strong.

Yeah. Devil dog. Don't worry about it, MJ. Devil dog. Dare devil. She devil. She devil. Devil.

Devil, devil. Dare devil. She's redoing she devil. She's going to do Rosanne's and Merrill Streep's character, which is going to be difficult. But she just drops the kids off at the, and I know it's like not current. She just drops the kids off with her ex. She's like, I don't know. You take care of him.

Oh, yeah. I was like, more women should do that. She has had enough. Yes, I love it. All right. MJ, hit us with, if that was your A game, you hit us with your B game now. Just wait. I cannot emphasize enough how much I was sweating looking through these blinds trying

to find something fun. We got you. We're going to figure this out. Just wait for number three. But this is number two. I wrote about this in the past couple of weeks, but it does look like the actress slash singer is using her former boyfriend to hide the fact that she has sleeping with yet another married man.

Ariana? Yes, I was going to say, who's famous for sleeping with married men, Ariana, and the married man in question is allegedly Christian Braschlower, the producer of the pedal music. Of the producer of the pedal music video. Uh-huh. Sounds like somebody needs to go on the Facebook dating app. Yeah, oh yeah. But it's about Ariana.

About Ariana. And her relentless dating. dating of married men. Well, then do you think that she then paid off Ricky to get the matching tattoo to try to get the scent? Because I feel like Ricky probably at this point is down for just the publicity, you know? I think that, I don't know.

So there's this, the link, sometimes the blind will have like links to its like textual sources, you know? And so this linked to an article in music blog, Christian Blasthauer reveals Ariana. I'm sorry, I'm confidently. saying the name wrong. Don't come at me. This director of Petal reveals that Ariana Grande reached out after watching Doja Cat's Demons video. And so they worked together and they did the acclaimed pedal video and that was the video that triggered a thousand. Please get help for your

eating disorders. So, you know, he's married and he might be Steppen Ariana. There's a whole Reddit post about the timeline and everything. So, you know, allegedly. Allegedly. I hope that she doesn't, God, take another married one. But, you know, the heart wants what the heart wants. The heart wants a married man. I know we shouldn't be kicking her to watch these down. I know that Ariana is having a difficult time. Yes.

But I also. If we could divorce all of that, I do think it's just fun to have like a serial husband sleeper with her in pop culture, you know? I also forgot to make mention earlier on Wisteriolanian. Max MJ that one of the, when some of the overweight mothers were being offered diet pills from Ava Longoria, one of the women said, okay, clickety clack. And I really appreciated that I was like, I'm glad, because I mean, I do, I say Ariana, she's a little bit of a clickety clack. But no, that's what I call Ariana Grande. But that's what they called Ava Longoria in Desperate Housewives.

And I was kind of shocked that, you know, I'm still saying clickety clack. No, but that's hilarious. Okay, cliquity clack. Yeah, cliquity clack. Justice for the, you know, the people who get cast in desperate housewives to be punchlines because they are in larger bodies. It happens a lot. It was 2006, and it just keeps happening. But, okay, you guys, you just have to wait for blind number three.

All right. It's right. Ready. Craziest blind I've ever read in my life. Seeing the birthday party pictures this week made me think back to a long time ago. And I hoped that the birthday party was nothing. like the one she hosted a few decades back. Okay, so this is one of these blinds where it's inspired by this celebrity in question had a birthday this week.

Okay. And the writer of this blind is saying I went to this celebrity's party decades back. Okay. And this is what it was like. Oh. Okay. On entering the house, guests were instructed to remove their shoes. The white carpets were pure white.

They sat on divans, not couches. What are those? I don't know. I'll look at it. D-V-A-M. What? D-I-V-A-N-S-D-V-A-N-S-D-V-A-Ns. They were told not, they were told to wash their hands before eating.

There are soap and towels in the guest bathroom. Please use them. She served a seven-course dinner with four forks per place setting. Her China was Le Bouges. She had four wine glasses. She called the guests to dinner with a bell, and then she sat them, boy girl, boy, girl. Guests were not permitted to leave the table. until they had cleaned their plates.

One guest was instructed to finish the pecan pie so everyone else could be served coffee. One couple paged themselves from the cell phone hidden in the bathroom and pled a babysitter emergency. A newly pregnant woman claimed morning sickness at 10.30 p.m. The rest stayed course in agony. I think it was her first dinner party because the help had all quit by the end of the evening.

The guests were told the Le Mages, is, that's the China, is directly from Germany. Most people wore light summer dresses and sandals or a sports jacket. Our actress wore a full-length sequin gown complete with diamond earrings and necklace. I kind of love her. I do. Low-key, dude. I kind of love this energy.

The tiara was from Tiffany's. Guests were not permitted to put coffee on adjacent furniture but had to hold it in their lap. Oh, damn. I thought they were having it. Oh, it's hard. It's hard. Please give me a cup. Oh, wait.

The tiara was left at Tiffany's. That's a dig. Like, there wasn't a tiara, but she was wearing a full, a full, a full sequin gown with diamond earrings. So I, again, this is a completely unhinged blind item describing a dinner party from an ambiguous amount of decades ago. And not only that, you guys, this is one of those blinds where they give you two options and you get to choose who sounds more right.

Now, as the blind went on, I realized it wasn't Martha Stewart, but I thought that with the party, you know, 20 years ago, for a while I was thinking Martha, but it's not Martha. If it's diamonds in this fancy Germany furniture stuff, it's got to be like old school Hollywood. Or like a hilaria? So the one option that they give as a guess makes total sense, except the timeline doesn't really add up. The other option you will never guess, and so I'm just going to help you. So the first option, she's not Martha Stewart. She wishes she was Martha Stewart. She's trying to be one level down from that.

Yeah. Who else is trying? No, no, no, no, not Gwenith. Not Gwenith. Not Gwenith. One level down from Gwyneth. Who else is trying to be Martha Stewart? Megan Markle.

You got it, Amber. Megan Markle because she just had a birthday party this past week. Oh. So it could have been her. The timeline, I feel like saying this is back when somebody had a pager. That doesn't feel quite right. But, you know, they were paging themselves from the bathroom. But everything else does track in terms of what the blinds say about Megan Markle

and her desperate dinner parties and everything. Okay. Now the other option. But she has those lifestyle shows. So we know that she's been having many dinner parties. Well, now I'm like maybe she's hosting these lifestyles. shows to like write the cosmic wrong of this one psychotic dinner party. Oh.

She only married the Prince Harry like, what, 10 years ago? I forget, my timeline's off. Yes, but she was an actress before that with suits and everything. But like, are you throwing this kind of dinner party when you're in suits? No, no. For some reason, that timeline doesn't match up to me. That's what I think. But the other person, it just seems wrong.

I'm just going to have to just say two words. which is Monstrous Ball. Hallie Berry? She released her on? No, Hallie Berry, that is the other person listed as a potential answer to this blind because she had a birthday.

That Monster's Ball was the only tip you could say for us to get to get to quickly. I don't we have to get to get to the snaggies to get quickly to Hallie Berry. I'm going to say Monsters Ball. It's just so funny because earlier MJ made a Broke Down Palace reference to me and literally I made a broke down

Palace reference as the Queen of Hearts on stage and afterwards Eddie made fun of me because he said nobody thinks about Broke Down Palace. Nobody is referencing Brokedown Palace. You're the only person doing this and I was like, how dare? How dare? And this is why I always feel seen by you, MJ. Thank you. I think about Broke down Palace every time I fly. Every time. Broke down Palace. I'm so scared. Someone's going to finger me as a drug mule. Now, does she willingly? I forget, she willingly breathe a drugs or were they? snuck up in her suitcase. I don't remember.

We know, we know the basics, Amber. We know Claire Danes and we know that we were scared of it happening to us. That's exactly all we knew. That's just like screaming at the prison. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is a choose-your-old adventure.

Do we think that Megan Markle threw a dinner party where she wore full sequins and made everybody sit boy, girl, boy, girl, and wouldn't let them leave until they cleaned their plate? Or do we think Hallie Barry did it because it was also her birthday? and she had a birthday party last week. I'll never do that to Hallie Berry. We're saying it's Megan Markle. I'm saying we're putting Megan Markle on this one dog.

I don't want a Hallie Berry catching strays over here. I know that there are, I know that Hallie Berry is like owns a lot of nice houses and does fancy things, but I just don't think she would do this. I don't think she would either. Classier than that. And sorry, Megan Markle, you ain't. Whoa. Yep. You heard it here first, folks.

And now I can see again. Welcome back. Yeah, you know, if anybody can just message the celebrities to tell them to stop engaging in so many sex crimes so that the blinds can be fun again. What are they supposed to do with their hands, MJ? You know, it's like they're out here and if they're always like this, you know, so it's hard for them. Oh, that makes me sad. Yeah. Yeah, it's all sex crimes.

It's all sex crimes. It's all sex crimes. It's all sex crimes. And I feel it's depressing. It makes me sad about it possibly being Mega Markle because I wanted to hold a whole thing. Sex crimes? You were that she was doing sex crimes? Yeah, I wonder for how much she was a molester. Now, I feel like the media is very anti-her, and I think that they're horrible to her. She had a big, big thing to push through, and that's

like marrying into this royal society. And I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. It's tough, right? We, because we sometimes have a little laugh about Megan Markle's, you know, celebrity persona, but you're 100% right that she has completely been rat-fucked by the media and by the royal family. And it's racist and it's sexist and it's both. And it's, she gets a real tough go of it, which is why we try it not to talk about her that much. But again, the blind items are all about,

it's like Megan Markle's drunk. Really? Everyone's a sex criminal or this person's on OZempeth. She's got a lot. She did a lot of stuff on her plate that she's, you know, a lot of projects and a lot of jobs that she's not finishing or doing, that she really, she's got to drink through it. Wow.

I mean, you know, I bet it's going to. to be nice alcohol. Bad, oh, you bet. That's, and now just one note before we go on to the Snackies about the blinds.

Again, we will be talking more about Hayden Panneteer tomorrow. I know we recently read a blind about Hayden Paneteer. And I just feel like the blind was kind of like about something that she describes in her book, but the blinds obviously,

of course, are always guessing who things are. And I just, I hope this goes without saying. But like, what we read in the blinds is not, we don't. Don't take it as fact. No.

You know, there's occasionally, you'll see something in the blinds over and over and over again. And then Jackie and I will start to kind of like refer to like this happens. This comes up a lot in the blinds. But obviously what people are speculating about in the blinds is not journalism. And so I just want to say that that I know we talked about Hayden Vanityaer recently. And it just feels now that in this like the wake of this tragedy, it just feels kind of like awkward. Like, you know, the blinds are tough. It's like a lot of this is just like.

Conjecture. Yeah, conjecture. guessing about people's tragedies and it's it's I so I'm feeling a type of way about the blinds this week and I just wanted to name that because of Hayden Paneteer and all of the like sex crimes being described to the blinds sorry I started laughing because as you were talking I wasn't laughing about what you were saying MJ I just started laughing just imagining Hallie Berry in a full gown just being like I was in Monsters Ball you bastards look at my gun I was and boy girl, boy girl.

Finish the pecan pie. I mean, I wish I could be a fly on the wall. I finish my pecan pie. Yeah, I'll finish it, yeah. Eat whatever you want me to eat. Okay, what if you want, Miss Barry. Yes, Ms. Barry. Anything you say, Miss Barry.

But also, Ms. Barry is it time for us to snack. Yay! Hit it with the Jackie Snacky's. Oh, yeah. So it's got to rev up, and I'm excited because like I said earlier, value steaks and meaty chips. That's the Amber Nelson Way. Snacky.

I've been a snacky girl. They're meaty. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. How meaty are the chips. How meaty is somebody gonna be these chips. How eat you gonna eat these chips. Gonna weed are gonna eat these chips.

Oh no, gonna suck these chips. Jackie's humpin the Pringles, guys. I need some Hawaiian babbaku and I need to eat chips. I'm really excited because I really do know that about you. that you like meaty chips. Well, I said value steaks. Thank you very much.

I didn't say cheap steaks. You're right. Value stakes. And I brought two different kinds of meaty chips for you. And I thought that you could choose which one you wanted to eat. Because now this one, both of them are limited edition, y'all. So this is pressing. We've got Pringles, Hawaiian Barbecue.

and we have Lays Barbecue Brisket. Now, it is, it does say on the Lays, just throwing that out there, not that I'm trying to, you know, convince you of one or the other. It does say that there's no colors from artificial sources and no artificial flavors

and does that make me feel like they just made a bunch of pigs just kiss the chips before they put them in? Yes, but maybe they did. Is brisket pig? I thought it was cow. I think it's cow. Oh, it's cow. Well, then that's their main branding problem.

Right. I started the brisket one. You want the brisket one? Yeah. You got it. I mean, I made the right decision, Amber. I have not had a good experimental pringle yet. All of the experimental pringles have been bad. You know what it is? It's because the spectrum of flavor is so wide, you know? And that's really what pringles are okay. Sorry to interrupt. I said that they were like mashed potato from the box.

Right? Like, rehydrated mashed potato? Yes. Right? They were like reconstructed potato Like a plywood Allay is like a thin potato That is fried

I was what a lay is MJ Oh, MJ I'm not that old All right, let's see Allay is like a piece of wood And a pringle is like particle board Oh that is

Meaty It is gonna Is it gonna make this warm room smell like meaty chips? Yes it is Now Amber if you could hold this I'd love to take a picture of you with the chips.

Oh, my room's very warm too. Oh, my gosh. She's the most beautiful woman with chips. Warm, meaty chips. Warm meaty chips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, baby. Sorry. It smells like college throw up.

Uh-oh. Smells like college throw up. Oh, no. Sorry. It's good. They're going to. All right, I'm going to try it. Yeah.

Is somebody going to eat? these chips? Is somebody gonna dip these dips? It's sweet. It's sweet. It's like, what do you mean? What do you mean it's really sweet? It's like sweet and smoky? Yeah, like a slow cooked brisket. Now I want to see if I can feel the rind on my teeth. Oh, these are, wow, it looks like the chips got a tan. I think you know whatever, sorry. Yeah, you go, you go, you go, Amber. You know, you know whenever you're making vegan stuff and you They want it to taste smoky and they have that wood smoke.

Liquid smoke? I think it's just liquid smoke with some other couple things in there. Is there meat in it, like actual meat? Because I feel like there's two different flavor profiles of brisket. I feel like there's like Texas barbecue brisket and then I feel like there's like Passover brisket. And I'm wondering which flavor profile. It's such as barbecue.

Yeah, because it's sweeter. You know what it is? The main flavors, excuse me, the main flavors are the barbecue sauce. So I feel like it kind of tastes like they added extra liquid smoke to barbecue chips. I think that's it. Yeah. It's kind of like

it's like a sweeter barbecue chip. But also barbecue chips have like a good amount of like a good chunk of sweetness in there. So it doesn't really, I'm surprised because usually these kind of experimental chips, although I am getting the full

barbecue mouth experience. I'm getting the barbecue flavor. I'm getting the liquid smoke, but you're right, Amber. It is just kind of given that liquid smoke. My problem with meaty chips is you don't want to eat them on their own, but I also can't imagine really dipping them into something. No, it has beef fat. That's the last ingredient.

So I don't know if it was like cooked in beef fat. No, because it was cooked in a lot of canola oil, but I'm guessing beef fat. Yeah. Is it giving beef? A little bit. It's the last ingredient on the list. the least of it. Yeah.

It's probably like rehydrated fat that they made into little, like a... Dust. Dust. Yeah. And they just dusted it with it. And they just were like, yeah, put a little... I feel like there's an ooed dog food. Like, MJ, I do feel...

I thought about you every time I think of meaty chips as dog food. And I don't know if that's how you want to be remembered, but that's how I remember you. I'm happy with it. And guess what? I've got meaty chips today, too. No, you fucking dog. I sure do. They are ruffles, they are ruffles, but they're buffalo wings.

And then we are, we need a chip. And then it's a damn, they need a chip. Hello, spicy, hello. Whoa, it's a buffalo wings, minute, minut much. Oh, wow, wow, wow. It's a yes. Minut, ma, ma, ma, ma'am, ma'am, mit mons. Many much.

Many munch. Yes, that's right. Get munching. I've got ruffles buffalo wings. Now you might be saying, MJ, I thought you already ate Buffalo Wing flavored chips, and I did,

but they weren't ruffles. They were buffalo wing combos and something else that I ate that was buffalo wing flavored. So I want to pit them head to chip head, all right? I want to see their little heads pop off. Combo's got that little dry nut in the middle.

I like it. Buffalo wing combos actually. They were not bad. It's not a nut. It's a paste. But I understand. Now I understand it. It's a little, yeah, it's a little nutte.

But in a different way. I see. Well, the even better thing about these ruffles, buffalo wings, is that they're about to expire. So I hope that just gives it a little. Is that, have you had them for so long that they're about to expire and you're like, aha, the proper vintage? I only got them a couple of weeks ago.

Oh, the smell, I can't finish the sentence because the smell has taken me out. It's MJ's mumma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma'am. Minute mudge. Minit mudge. Get you munch in, MJ. This is the first time that the smell makes me, like, act, like, truly afraid to try it.

Oh, okay. And I love ruffles. This is, like, such cognitive dissonance. Not today, though, bro. Ruffles are the best for texture. Sometimes it's a problem. with buffalo wing stuff because then they try to add in the ranch or they'll try to add in a blue cheese.

No, the ranch is to dip. And that's the thing. You dip it in that. And that's why I get myself like a good old green onion did. You know what I mean? Get in there. MJ, you're not dry heaving. I'm not dry heaving.

I, okay, we have a very similar story going on between your meat chips and my meat chips. Oh, my God. It's a meat cute chips. Because what is good about the Ruffles Buffalo wings is that it mostly tastes like buffalo sauce, which is a delicious flavor that you could absolutely share with the chip. Yes. And what you don't want is the meat flavor. You don't want the chip to taste like meat.

No, it's got a kicker of meat in there, huh? And similarly, Amber, I'm so glad you looked at the ingredients of yours because the last two ingredients on mine are chicken broth and chicken powder. I don't want chicken broth in my chips. get it away from my chips. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, sometimes it's like the bouillon cube effect. Although, where, when were you talking? MJ, was it you that used to eat bullion cubes?

I know, I did. Was that you? Yeah, it got to be Amber. Oh, it was Amber. It was Amber that used to eat Boolean cubes. Two people. Could not be two people. We have one person.

It was Amber. You just put it in some hot water and then suck on it. Oh, that's fine. Oh, you put in water. That's fine. Yeah, I wouldn't just eat them, like, dry. Oh, I was talking about someone. we know used to eat them dry

and now I feel like I have to go on some sort of like witch hunt, witcher, wicker, I want both of them. But I now have to find this person because someone we know used to just straight up eat bouillon cubes and I remember specifically asking I mean like the cube and they said yes. So, um, before I hear that out

Is our friend a horse? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, it must have been Holden. Thank you for bringing me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I must have been. I'm like trying to. to even think of like a candy, like with a textual similarity to make a joke about, and that there's nothing. There's nothing that's like a powder, like a cube of powder that you could even compare it to. But yeah, chicken powder.

I could go the rest of my life without knowing that chicken powder is an ingredient. But here we are. I am just, I feel like we were all brought together today by meaty chips. Yeah. Yeah. And also, I will throw it out there. This bag is far too big for the amount of meaty chips that are in the, like really, it's just, I don't know what we're going to.

to do with all these chips. Like usually I can find some kind of like, oh, I'll crush them up and I'll put, you know, put it on chicken or so, like, I don't know what the hell I'm to do with these chips. Maybe you can like, like put some meat in a crock pot, make some like, you know, those like Midwestern pulled sandwiches, pulled beef

sandwiches. And then crumble. Yeah, crumble that. So it's like meat on meat action. But it's like fake meat on real meat action. Yeah, I'd rather just the real meat. Yeah, you're kind of putting good money after bad at that point. You just feel like dust and make it a whole. Dusting it with bad meat, you know. Nobody likes that.

Just to find a use for these disgusting chips, you know. At that point, you're like, I could just throw the chips away. I could probably, yeah, or just I'm going to go make everybody in the network eat them, which is what, you know, what I usually do here. But, wow, MJ, I'm so glad that we had a meaty experience together today, even though it really wasn't one that any of us ended up wanting in the long run. That's okay. You've got to try them all.

Yeah, it can't all be a baseball steak for $20, which again, MJ is a bad price to pay for a steak. But it's a famous baseball steak. Yeah, but I mean, it's cheap for a famous one. I'll tell you what. But also, we had a famous one right here in Amber Nelson. Thank you so much for joining us today on page seven. Thank you so much for having me. I always have a great time.

God, we love talking to you. And it's like I love getting your fresh perspective on things, Amber. even if we get a little weird and sad sometimes. But honestly, Amber, you're one of my favorite people to get weird and sad with. Of course, you too, Jackie. Thank you so much. And you too, MJ. Yeah, you too, Amber.

This has been so wonderful. And guys, thank you all for joining us on this week's episode of page seven. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. Get all the information over there for all of my many, many projects. And where you can find me, you can get all that information in my Instagram bio. And also, don't forget to check. check out YouTube.com slash at page 7 LPN.

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