Page 7 - When Harry Met Sally...WATCHALONG

Episode Date: January 1, 2026

This is the New Year and we didn't feel any different...until Jackie and MJ's return for the first time since 2025, to sit down and rewatch the 1989 Rob Reiner classic "When Harry Met Sally"! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oh, I'll get and have covered you on New Year's Day. Hold on to the memories they will hold on to you. Yeah, it's a Tay song. Sorry, I'm coming in hard with a little Tay right now. Coming in hard with Tay. All right. We're going to just do a quick little confession here at the top, guys. I really wanted with Jackie and all of you to watch.

This is so humiliating. I really wanted to watch. Why are you humiliated? Because it's a humiliating ritual in general, which is that every New Year's Day, I try. It's lapsed since having children, but I try to every New Year's Day spend it prone watching the Sex and the City movie. Why? Because there's a single scene in it that takes place during New Year's. It is otherwise a kind of chrono exploration of.

up to a year of their lives. But there's one scene that takes place during New Year's. And I watch it every New Year's Eve. And guess how long it is, guys? It's too long to do a podcast, too. I couldn't believe that the Sex and the City movie is two and a half hours long. There's no need for it to be two and a half hours long. MJ and I both have things to do afterwards.

And I was like, bro, I love you. I'm not watching this for two years. and a half hours. I can't watch this for two and a half hours. Like, I just, I could not, that's, that's another reason it's humiliating. I could, I would, I would rather, you know, quit my job than ask people to listen to two and a half hours of sex in the city discussion. I would have done it. You know I would have done it, MJ. I would definitely, I would do anything for me, except we both know that we're on a schedule. Yeah, it's not about anal sex. That is about, um, watching the sex in the city movie.

with friends. And not that it's also about anal sex. It's not about anal sex. It's about cheating. But anyway, we're talking about the meatloaf song. But I came to, because MJ, here's a thing. You were saying about the Sex and the City movie that there's only the one scene that makes it a New Year's movie.

Now, I dare say that I think that a lot of New Year's Day, New Year's Eve movies, have just the one scene of a New Year's. I guess that's right. But there should be more New Year's movies. movies. There's a surprisingly small amount of New Year's movies. There really is, except we were, you know, for very upsetting reasons, discussing Rob Reiner recently. And in that, I realized that when Harry met Sally, one of my favorite movies of all times, but also it is, if we're going by those standards, also a New Year's movie. And I said sold. Let's say.

I love it when you're cold, when it's 71 degrees outside. Maybe that whole monologue, it's like I'm giving it to you, MJ. But that monologue destroyed me. It was one of my away messages for a really long time. That's how you know it was big. So, guys, tuck in. If you're listening to the audio version of this podcast, you are welcome. I'm going to do a countdown into the movie.

We're going to do a three, two, one, start. You're going to hit start at the beginning of me saying the word start. and you can watch along with us. If you are a Patreon member, come on over. You don't even have to be a certain tier or level, just a Patreon member, and you can come watch when Harry Met Sally with us over on the Patreon

because I did have to subscribe to stars to watch it. So I have to say this aloud, so I remember to cancel the stars subscription. Everyone messages Jackie to remind her to cancel the stars. And yes, we have to remember to cancel it because I'm doing this for us, everybody, so that we all don't have to get the stars subscription and also cancel it. Yes. So you can watch it with us there or you can watch it on your deep. When we put out the call for who owns the Adams family values too on DVD, a lot of people did.

A lot of people did. So hopefully even more people own Harry Met Sally. Honey Pee, I've got when Harry Met Sally on DVD, I just don't have a DVD player that I can hook up to also do all of these things. To also do OBS, yeah. I just need everyone to know I have the physical media of it. I'm glad. Because it's one of my favorite movies.

So let's get into it. I know. I know you said it's been a minute. All right. Let me give the countdown in so everybody can. We're doing this together, guys. All right. So get your trigger finger ready.

Get it primed. Get it hovering. Okay. Because I'm about to do the countdown now. We're going to go. in three, two, one, start. And the stars bullshit is showing up on the front of your screen.

Now, MJ, do you remember the first time you saw this movie? High school. Okay. I did a good job, I think, because it was like kind of before the internet really took things over. me and my high school friends just spent most of our time hanging out and watching movies. Watching movies.

Like classics. You know, Rob Reiner. A Rob Ryder. I'm sorry, I just realized that we need to move this up just a little bit. Billy Crystal is there. Mag Ryan is there. Yeah, so I know I've seen this for the first time in high school. I think I've seen it a couple of times since then, but it's really not a film I could quote.

You know, it really isn't. And it should be. So I'm, Carrie Fisher's there. Oh, yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. Oh, in fact, I was just watching Rob Reiner talking about, we'll get, when we get to the scene, I'm sure I'll talk about it. I think it took them because they had to do it all in one take. And it was so difficult to do.

I think he said they did like 62 takes because they had to get all of it right. Oh, my God. And this is the thing is that, like, people are like, oh, it's a right. rom-com, but it's like one of the greatest, also romances, I would say. Right. I feel like it is held up by people as like either the upper most echelon of rom-com or just like a different category than roncom because it's so well done. It's, it's, I, it hurts me to call it a rom-com because I feel like that's too flippant of a word. Right, right, right. I just want I have been obsessed with love like a pathetic beautiful little fat girl oh I was so obsessed I was just like I and of course as somebody that was in love with my gay best friend I just oh I'm gonna cry.

bro, I think that we're going to cry I think we're going to cry We're going to wring in the new year with tears Oh my God Two weeks later Yeah, it was different back then Yeah, you're right I'm going to just going to cry the entire time

Do you guys get to just have 90 minutes Of just me crying? You're probably just going to cry the entire time. University of Chicago, 1977. Although I do remember being much younger watching this laughing at the thought that Billy Crystal was in college in the top of this movie. But honestly, I'd rather them just put hair on him than, you know, whatever they do nowadays. Yes, yeah.

I, again, the John Goodman, Righteous Gemstones thing. John Goodman. I hate it. I hate it. I love him and Richard Shemstones. I don't like the youngifying him. No. Hi, Meg Ryan.

Oh, the fair of Fawcett hair. Oh, my God. I have to ask Jack Quaid about this. I was going to say how he feels about this movie. Thank you for Jack Quaid, Meg Ryan. Man. I am, I would love to hear. I'd love to try to do a road trip like times before, you know, when you couldn't be as connected.

I know. I know. I feel like watching these, even just thinking about watching this movie, like, oh, yeah, what would my high school friends and I do? We would, like, go to Blockbuster, get a movie. And that, and then that was the amount of, you know, and then afterwards we would talk about the movie, you know? And I hate to sound like an old, but that's just not what life is like anymore, and that is a lot. Honestly, I do still kind of do, like with Adam, I'll still do that. Like, the four of us will get together and then we'll watch movies and talk about him.

That is what your friends do. But that's because we will have nothing after us. And we're not building anything. So don't worry about that, MJ. Dave. No family to speak of. No, I just mean that nowadays, I think kids hang out and they look at their phones, you know? Like, I've been going to all these holiday parties, like family, friends, and teens are there. And the teens are lovely, but they just kind of sit on the couch and look at their phones, you know. Look at their phones.

All right. So they're like. ride sharing. Oh my God. Now, MJ, besides in city slickers, did you definitely always want to kiss Billy Crystal? That's the, I think my only impediment

to being, to Harry Mettau is I've never wanted to kiss Billy Crystal even remotely. But that might change tonight, Jackie. It might change. They met so young. especially being young and connecting with Billy Crystal and this that's why I was like I need to find a Billy Crystal. I just need someone that's dark like I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think it's lovely that Billy Crystal was like this sexual and romantic awakening for so many, you know, emotional young heterosexual women. But also a nice non-toxic man. Completely. See in this, whoa. Young thoughts.

Young, young movie talk, young road trip. Actually, I'm kind of excited because I don't think I've watched this like in my 30s. Like I don't think I've watched this in at least a decade. This is one of those where I think you got to watch it like, once a decade, you'll get a different perspective each time. Yeah, just, oh my God, this is going to be big for us. I feel like we're going to learn something about ourselves. Totally.

Baby. Oh, you haven't had great sex yet. Also, oh my God, I was so obsessed with the thought of like, but what is great sex? Yeah. Because that's the thing. At that age, you think you've had great sex. great sex. Totally.

But then you realize you have no idea what great sex is. Yes. Oh my God, Meg Ryan's outfit. I love the fit. Where are they driving to? I know they started in Chicago. They're driving to New York. Okay.

Yeah. I've done that drive. I thought that looked like New Jersey. Oh, I've done that drive. Oh, I don't that drive. Wow, that's pre-Bazinga. You're damn right, Billy Crystal. That's true.

Wow. True. To read me big. Sheldon. Ride me big, Sheldon. also goes to show the the youth of the order I know a salad and a slice of pie

with ice cream on it Oh my god Our friend John Moreno was always the Everything had 17 thousand specifications of how he needed everything. Did you have a friend like that? No, I can picture John Moreno doing that. But yes, I also have a friend like that.

John needs things very specific. But he also works in the food service industry. So he's like, so I know what they're capable of. That's the thing. He's a restaurant man. Yes. I have days of the week socks. Also, my socks, because...

Also, my socks are workman's socks because I only have Monday through Friday socks. Really? No weekend sucks. That's capitalist sucks. Capitalist socks. I'm not ready to fall in love with Billy Crystal tonight. Bro, I'm so excited to watch it happen live. This, you're going to fall for Billy Crystal today.

Yeah, I think I am. Also, you're going to re-fall in love with Carrie Fisher. Yeah empirically you are attractive Except her shorts and her eye shadow But Lee forgive it It's not You know

It was a while ago There were no YouTube videos MJ I guess I wonder, is this where the media idea of men and women can't be friends without fucking each other? Yeah. Is it just because of this? Obviously, it was probably, I mean, forever in the zeitguise, but was this what put it in? This is the reference. You know what I mean?

Yeah, because what year are we talking about here at 1989? Okay. Yeah. I didn't let it lie. I went the other way. Yeah. I do wonder if this was kind of then something that was so referenced over and over and over and over about how men and women can't be friends that it's kind of a foundational text to that. Yep.

I feel like any time I've been told this by a man, it is interesting. But I do love this part, though. You only think you do. Y'all want to have sex with you. Is that true, though? I remember being in high school and being like, I kind of wish that was true

because at the time I didn't think anybody wanted to have sex with me. So it was like, if everybody does, that would be nice. That would be awesome. I'd love it if that could be the case. which we know because of holding an eye is not the case not the case no but i that man you're right this is even though i don't remember the last time i saw this movie

this conversation is like it's like it's been beamed into everybody's brain it is so so strong in the zeitguise that's why it is like i do like i'm not saying that it's definitely because of this, I'm just curious if that is what... No, you're so right. It's like a Bible verse, you know, just people will just repeat it over and over and over. Also, the soundtrack of this movie is great. Also, I'm going to just love seeing 1989 as New York City. New York, I know. Give me the New York.

I'm such a nerd. Anything said in New York. I'm like, New York. I know. Now I'm getting like that with Angelino stuff, too. I love that for you. Like, it's my town. isn't so crazy before social media that you could just have an experience like that with a person and then never ever see them ever again i know i know and i have to stop just like i don't know i feel it makes me feel very old when i because i'm constantly talking about this social media stuff because i'm thinking about it with the kids that i work with and the kids that i

live with. But it makes me feel like so old and out of touch to just be like, I used to be different because obviously every generation feels that way. But it is like such a shock to be like life used to be much more face to face than it is now, you know? Yes. I love these little interstitials. They're so good. I, oh God. Is this how we start to do here? Is this a good idea. Well, I would be crying if it was sex in the city of the movie also. You would be crying at the end of two and a half hours of watching it because you'd be crying that you can't believe you wasted all that time. I wouldn't, but I would be crying on behalf of everybody else who has given up, who would have given up on page seven because

we asked them to listen to two and a half hours of sex in the city of the movie. But I do recommend watching it, guys. If you're listening to this, New Year's and you need something else to watch after this? After this. Throw it on. You got time. Oh, he's looking for her. Oh, God, that too.

Remember that when you just have a crush and you just walk around looking for them? And you just see them? But it wasn't hurt him. While you were sucking face. does he not recognize her he didn't see her he just only saw him he only saw him for real well they were making out how many years have passed i mean some they're out of college they're like adults now okay why she You acted so weird.

Five years ago. Okay, got it. Yeah, think about you now, bitch. And I know that it's And I know that it's because of this movie that personally, and I know you have a partner the same, that my husband has, like, all of his best friends are women.

Totally. Or people that identify as women. And it is... I did not realize the extent to which this movie helped me formulate my belief system that a man has to have women friends. Yes. This is why I'm sorry that you're not in love with Billy Crystal, quote, unquote, but I think you are. Yes, it's huge green flag energy for a man to have women friends and, you know, not always, but certainly worth further investigation if the man does not have any women friends.

Her hire in her outfit is worse. Okay, I'm going to stop commenting on the 80s here. You are allowed to. What are you talking about? It's worse than before. conversation when we're watching old movies like from the 80s he'll be like did men think this was hot at the time?

Yeah. They really especially with all the mad men we've been watching. Oh yeah. Wow. it's so like the thing too where you run into somebody from college five years later and you feel like connected to them even oh yeah like because of this shared experience even though you're so disconnected especially as you go experience life for the first like like like outside life for the first time totally which this is not true my husband will still take me to the airport

and it's more difficult Billy Crystal to take someone to the airport now and he still takes me to the airport Yeah, they really don't make movies between this and watch and say anything. They don't make movies between this and watch and say anything. They don't make movies like they used to. I mean, they do, but they're, this is so special. Foundational text. It's also like, Robbrenner was so good at letting these moments sit.

Exactly. And letting it play out. The pacing feels completely different. Yes, same with say anything. Than what we see nowadays. Totally. Yeah. Yeah, even though say anything,

I was kind of remembering it as like a, you know, kind of wacky college movie, but it's like the pacing, It really takes its time. It really just trusts the like the slow, quiet relationship building of the conversation between the actors. It's really beautiful. I thought about this for so long because he said, I don't know if you just heard what he said. He's like, men are just waiting.

He wants to hold you for 30 seconds and then he wants to let go. That's it. That's all a man wants. And it's like breaking her brain. And I thought this for such a long time. I was like, no man wants to hold me. No man wants his arms around me. No man wants to lay with me.

And I, that kind of fucked me up, I think, for a bit. Yeah. No, I do think that some of the little Billy Crystal truisms kind of got in our heads as high school. Even though he's young, now that we're watching it older, it's like, but he's so, he's 25. Right. Now we see he's like full of bravado. Right. That's not actually.

wisdom. Which I think I understood when I was younger, but then why did I let it soak in like I was a fucking sponge? Right. You still take it seriously. That's such a good point. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Like the fact that this, the movie, the whole. movie so far is just like a conversation between them is yes and that's really i mean it's what the entire movie is and i feel like i talk about this i think i lament about this in my regular life very often and i don't usually do it into a microphone but just talking about like billy crystal was pitched as a sex symbol i know you know it's like we don't it's fewer and far between that you get actual real-looking people in our media as often. I feel like I need to look up trivia facts about when Harry met Sally.

Good idea. There she is. All right. Five years later. Entrance, the queen herself. For us, it's Carrie Fisher. Oh, Carrie Fisher, I love you. I love you. Oh, Carrie Fisher. Carrie Fisher.

it's not enough carrie clock is ticking oh my god always with the clock is ticking yeah this is it is funny because even though this is a beautiful foundational text it does definitely put a couple of pretty conventional ideas into my head as a young person which is fine yes that's just what that's just what culture was Wow, I didn't realize Rob Reiner and Billy Crystal were best friends and originally Rob Reiner wasn't going to cast Billy Crystal

because he's like, you're my best friend and he said, I was nervous about doing it. He said, what if it doesn't work? What is it going to do to our friendship? He didn't want to ruin their friendship. Oh, my God. He originally wanted Albert Brooks. Wow

Molly Molly Ringwald was almost Sally Wow At least you can say you were married Ladies, ladies, can we talk about this for a second? I was going to say it passes the Bechdel test because it's got women talking to each other. And then I realized it is we've been talking about men, but I got no complaints. It's a good conversation.

I know all these facts. You don't like your facts. I know these ones. I know you'll come to us if you have a fact that you want to report. All right. Billy Crystal improvised a lot. Not enough of a fact for me. Although that is a fun fact because it does.

I mean, he's saying so many, it's so quotable, you know. Like all of these things are, I feel like this is one of the most quoted movies. My popper gosh. Oh, yeah. Apparently when we get to the picture. scene, that whole thing is improvised. That's fun. It just makes me think of watching finding Mr. Christmas when they're trying to

like ice skate through a scene. Yes. Where it's like, okay, you got to do this long one shot, but you're also going to have to do the wave while you do it. Totally. It's not a one shot, but. This guy plays the perverted coach in the basketball diaries. Oh.

Spoiler. He looked just like my father's best friend. So I never wanted to kiss him. No, no, neither did I, because I first saw him in the basketball diaries. Sounds like you don't want to kiss him in that either. Oh, God, it is such a good scene. It's just one solid scene after another. One solid scene after another.

And I love that it's like, I just love that each, it's like, girl talk, boy talk, girl talk, boy talk. Like, girl talk, boy talk, boy talk. And how it's different, but also how. how it is similar. Exactly. Like it's so a product of its time and it's also perfect. But it's also showing that men also talk like this. 100%.

100%. Yes. I think, you know, we've like, we've come to look back at movies like this and like the formulas and the tropes. But actually like this is just an example of like, what if all, what if this is, what if it was just done perfectly? Yes, what if it was the best of them? Yes. Yep.

It's also Nora Ephron, which I mean, I'm obsessed with, you know, you've got mail and sleep at all. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Now, this hurts in a different way. I know. As an adult, I've been a friend. I know. The friend who's with the unavailable person,

who's never going to leave the unavailable person. The unavailable person's never going to be available. It's hard. Yeah. To talk to someone and help them through that. Ha. Ha. Ha.

he's so fucking charming mj i can't stand it also i love you'd like him he's married you'd like he's married but again how it is such good realistic conversation also yeah no this is just like it's like when you i can't even think of like equivalent of like when you have a meal at like a really good restaurant and you're like oh this is the standard by which everything else is defined you know like that's this movie also very real to meet someone when you're 26 and then have the breakup five years later because it's just not growing with you yep And I feel like it's like, at least me, like my life imploded in my early 30s, you know?

It's, it's, I think it makes sense. It doesn't happen for everybody, but. Yeah. Who knows when it will implode again? Life is long, MJ. I know. I always think about that, Chris Rock joke. People say life is short.

No, it's not. Life is long. There are a lot of eras. That's so good. Sorry podcast listeners. You're just going to have a lot of silence while we watch this perfect movie. And you listen to my bong rips. You can hear the light bong rips. You can hear the light bong rips. Some bubbling and coughing.

God, she's so good in this movie, too. Ouch. Wow. Oh, look at them walking through. Oh, the fall, New York. This scene is the, as I feel like when I picture the movie, I picture this. The outfit's the part. But then it also makes me think of you've got mail with the sharp bouquet of sharpened pencils too.

Maybe we watch you got mail next, Jackie. Fine. Fine. We got to, could we go on a Nora Ephron experience? Yes. it's crazy that honestly none of the fucking aging and wisdom and life arc hit me at all when I watched this in high school not right straight over my head I am indeed because you hadn't experienced it exactly any of it yet yeah a movie about perspective when

you have no perspective right what was I getting out of it God I wish I had had like a journal entry of what like of how i felt about ever because like i did watch it all the time so totally yeah no because i'm sure that i think what we took out of it was like the truisms and the wisdom about love right but but missing the part where they're getting more and more perspective on life you know right and as they like we were saying earlier it's like when you grow, but you don't grow in the same direction. You're growing in separate directions. And like getting disillusioned with things and disappointed and.

Oh my God. My next door neighbors were just like one of these couples. Oh, really? Oh, my God, yes. 183rd Street. I used to work there. I love them Where

I love them I love them I love that this is going to be the couple that breaks me that little face Oh their little smile Textra floors Oh my God

And also, though, Holden and I had this friendship, this section of the friendship when we were both sad for like a year. And we talked all the time. Uh-huh. Because men and women can be friends. The section of the friendship, you mean where you're both. just kind of like lonely and love sick but and kind of talking to each other because you're a close person and because like you're easy to talk to yeah and there's no other feelings at

all it's literally just like we just vibe right now yeah it's just like you're the person I convent to but it's not suppressed love it's just actual relationship no just and it was Honestly, it would be like if I had a really bad date experience, like, I'd call him and cry, which is like crazy to think now, you know? But it was because he was so sad and broken that like he couldn't make fun of me. Totally. He's got to help her relax a little. And they're watching the movie all the day. television together.

They watch them Casablanca after all these years, oh my God. I always was so scared because I'm the worst kind. Like, it seems like I would be low maintenance, but in reality, I'm just, I couldn't be further from the truth. I think we were both kind of girls who I, like, wanted to be low maintenance.

Like, oh, yeah, give me a skateboard. Yeah, right, exactly. I'm not like the other girls. I'm low maintenance. I'll stay up and I'll stay up and moan. It's still, man, it gets me. Makes we want to get a landline. I have been thinking about getting a landline. Whoa.

And I'm telling my kids, friends, parents to get a landline so they can talk on the landline. Yeah, but then you're always going to be trying to get away from your family on the landline. You know, think about that. Think about we were just talking about home for the holidays, you know? Think about trying to have a private conversation. Well, I won't be on the landline. I want the kids to be on the landline. Although I would love to be a...

How are they going to have a private conversation? They won't. Good. Good. I guess, yeah, you do have to listen. I don't know. I don't know what you do with children's phone calls. See...

It's this fit that makes me think I can wear hats. And then I put a hat on. And I tell you, I shouldn't. I just don't wear hats well. I'm not saying I agree because I agree that you can't wear hats, but I agree that this fit gives us misleading ideas about how good this outfit would look. Of what we could accomplish. Yeah, this fit makes me think I could wear a blazer and.

trousers, and honestly, still working on that. Could you imagine either one of us in this outfit? We would look so stupid. So stupid. We would look like Paula Poundstone. Yes, and everyone would make fun of us, and everyone would bring up Paula Poundstone, and like, did she do something with kids? And we're like, no, she did it.

That's the thing. Why do we all think that she did? She was bad to her kids, but she didn't know, Meper and my poppy gosh. And that was a real little laugh of hers, by the way. I was going to say that. But it's so perfect. It's just like the evolution of their, how they react to each other, you know. Well, and also because like they were hanging out more.

Totally. And it is like they did. Yeah, this is also where it leaves hold in a nice friendship. Yes. I was always like, I'm fucking this one, I'm doing this one, you know. Yeah, I was like, I never had an ambiguous friendship-turned relationship. I really ever. I had, I, I was like, if you're my friend, I'm so afraid of messing it up by by liking you that I'm going to turn that part of myself off and I'm just going to have you as a

friend. You've never had a friend that turned into a relationship or a, I mean, I've had like, you know, friends with benefits, but I've never had like a good, close friend that started as a good close friend that turned romantic, ever. Wow. It's weird. weird. I'll bet. I mean, of course I, you know, I think I've probably fantasized about it. Like, this movie makes it seem so lovely, you know, but. Yeah, but this is like the best case scenario. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, I knew that. I mean, originally, we were talking about this with Rob Reiner. Originally, it was supposed to end that they don't get together. Yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a,

about a fun fact. Did he meet Michelle because she was working on the film? I don't know. It's in this list, though. I know she was a producer in general. I don't know if she worked on this film. Oh, Tom Hanks was a return. offered the role.

I'm so glad it was Billy Crystal. Also. Ha. this is straight up based on Nora Ephron and Rob Reiner's friendship. Really? That they have a completely platonic. Oh my God. And that's why they weren't going to get together in the end because that's the relationship that.

Oh my God. Every fact is going to, there's no fun facts anymore, Jackie. They're all sad facts. They're all sad facts. That is a very lovely fact, though. Just even this beautiful line when Meg Ryan came in to do the audition, Billy Crystal said later,

he said, Meg came in and we didn't even read a scene. We all knew it was her. It's just one of those indefinable things that when we started talking, we were already them, you know? Oh, my God. And I love that. Oh, my God.

That's incredible. I mean, even without the tragedy of what just happened to Rob Reiner, it's just like, I've obviously been thinking a lot about aging and getting older in the passage of time. And I'm like, what must it be like to just like reach a point in your life when you just look back in your work and you're like, yeah, I made some really amazing things. And also like that period of my life is, I'm not, I'll never be making when Harry Met Sally again, you know, but I did do it. Damn. Are this cats' is, are they at cats'es? Yes, they are at cats'es.

And also, of course, Michelle was just a photographer on set. Oh, wow. When I was a high schooler and I saw this scene, mind blowing. Absolutely mind blowing. Oh, yeah. oh my god it's just such a fucking good movie also cats looks the same i haven't been there in a few years but it's exactly yeah oh yeah see oh yeah yeah Also, I feel like

When I was younger, it felt like this scene was like 20 minutes long. Like I was just so uncomfortable. Totally. It is so uncomfortable when you're young. Billy Crystal's reactions are so good. He's so, he's so funny. mother. That's Rob Reiter's mother? Oh my god. The only sad thing about the movie is how much less expensive New York was at this time.

Oh, yeah. Although it's not like the 80s were a real peaceful time for New York. I guess that's fair. Yeah. Yeah, it was a little bit grittier. But man, what a beautiful. I know that everybody always brings this up as like a love letter. This movie is a love letter to New York.

But it really is a beautiful. It is a love letter to New York. I think I've said this to you before. I view New York City as an X. Yeah. I feel like it's difficult for me to go back when I'm there. Like I feel like I'm just like. Yeah.

Like, I feel like I'm, it's so weird. It really does feel like I, and it has nothing to do with X's, there's nothing to do with that. It's just the city itself. And I feel like it's something I'm married to where I'm like, I complain about it and I like take it for granted. And then I go across a bridge and see the skyline. And I'm like, oh my God, you. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Of course. New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve. Happy New Year's, everybody. Oh my God. Did you ever do, did you ever kiss a crush on New Year's, like during the time when everybody's kissing? I only fantasized about it. I never once kissed a crush on New Year's ever in my life.

Never once. I feel like it's a high that you chase forever. Do you get it? Yes. Oh, my God. And I, it was while kissing other people, like it was one of those. Yeah, yeah, go around. It was fast.

Yeah, but still. But I, like, it was like, I was just like, it was my. Oh, yeah. If you're a romantic, you dream of that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then if you don't kiss your crush, you go home really sad and start the new year really sad. And I feel like after that, I don't know if I've ever really cared or enjoyed about a new year's ever since. Yes. I think that was it. Yes. That's Pete New Year's. And then though, oh, I mean, yeah, just the, you know.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, it's so good. oh my god these interstitials just based on all real stories oh my god it's like if i could get a tattoo of these interstitials i would you know it's like interstitials are like the equivalent of a bright eyes song for the heart yes yes and that's why I'm so glad I'm watching this with you specifically, MJ, because I feel like I really watch this movie a lot, but only ever alone. As a young, idealistic, romantic, yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. Last time I saw this movie, I was young, idealistic, love sick, lonely, and romantic. And I love that part of myself, and I love to remember that part of myself, you know? Me too. Carrie Oh, yeah, oh my, and you, and you, that's the thing, and you, that's the thing, and you can be that friend. You have to have that friend.

Yeah. And maybe this hurt MJ and I in certain ways. A hundred percent. I was, I am realizing in real time that I was damaged by this movie. Damaged, like actively damaged by this movie. Yes, because I was so young and so impressionable. And thought that it was true. All true.

I thought everything he was saying was true. Didn't understand that they were growing past this. and, like, learning, and these are phases of life, like we were saying earlier. A hundred percent. I just thought it was all true, and that this is what all men think. I thought all men think this, and I thought these are objective rules of reality. Really figuring out how much this movie, even though love this movie, kind of low-key, fucked us a little bit. 100%.

I'm realizing the same thing. I'm like, wow. I internalized a lot of bad ideas because of this fantastic movie. Yeah. I mean, great movie. I won't take it back. I still one of my favorite movies. It's a criticism.

You can't take it away for me. No. No, it makes me love the movie more the fact that from a different perspective, I enjoy the movie in a different way. Totally. That is the mark of a great fucking movie. Yes. And honestly, what is sex in the city, if not this idea executed arguably, you know,

not as certainly not quite as artfully, of just like meaningful conversations with friends about love and relationships? like this this is the Bible of it and then a bunch of other people tried to do the same thing with varying degrees of success mostly with failure

yes I'm certainly not comparing sex in the city of the movie to when Harry met Sally but I like this is like oh yeah it's just like what if you just got to listen to friends talk about relationships

and it felt so real you know which is what sex in the city was trying to do sorry I just love that she is quoting a magazine and she accidentally quotes his magazine article that he wrote. Carrie Fisher is a perfect human.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. This is kind of what Gideon and I did on our first night together. I had a party and I was like, all right, everybody, time to leave. And then that's just like, not you. That's so funny. Nope, you stay right there. That's great. I love that.

oh my god it's just like watching a newport christmas when they went back in time and went technically forward in time and um she was also being there was also a you know an arranged marriage in there but technically it was arranged by comets I am going to watch Newport Christmas because of you, Jackie. Yes. Ooh, the sharper image. Wow. Timely. Oh, my God. How much time would you spend in the sharper image at the mall?

If we were any of those? My hometown mall didn't have one. So if we were visiting a mall that had a... Or Brookstone? Is that the other one? Yeah, that was good. But if we were visiting a mall that had... sharper image we would be like mom and dad come back in an hour yeah seven hours you know in fact

just let us live here oh wow this device plays a central role in the simpsons episode where bart falls down the well oh wow out in Missouri, Oklahoma, with a fringe on top. I will say I had one of those machines in the early, I got one in the early 90s, so it really was great. Everything you'd hope for. Oh, yeah. You know, somehow it got lost.

at some point. I think my mom, surprisingly... Linda didn't know where it was one day. Surprisingly, really didn't want that around anymore. I don't know why she gave it to me and Henry in the first place. Maybe this is what inspired you to get my children a drum set when they were toddlers. You got away. You got rid of it so fast.

I did get rid of it pretty fast. I tried. I'll send them one now. Oh. That's his ex. Yes. With Surrey on the fring on top plane. God,

and you always want to be, especially without, oh my God, because that is so crazy. social media and you have no idea how the other one's doing and then you see them in the wild and they're with someone yeah and that's the only way you know wow i don't know why i've never really thought about the world of adult dating without the internet yeah yeah i mean i had a smartphone when i met gideon but it was a completely different internet landscape like when I oh yeah but we still had some ways in which to contact like we I'm talking about having nothing yeah yeah no that was different but I do remember like again like being on the L train

just looking around for for a crush like because I knew he lived off of the L stuff oh yeah like as opposed to looking at my phone for a text like looking up being like maybe he's in the subway car and sometimes he was sometimes you see each other because weirdly enough it's a big town but a little town exactly i'm not on those jean short side though i will tell you that if anyone has seen the basketball diaries please please please tell me i'm not alone by being extremely terrified of that actor well now i want to Watch the basketball diaries. It's a linear.

I remember the basketball diaries. I've never, I've never seen it though. Uh-oh. Oh. Oh. It's like, remember we were just recently watching one of these Super Christmas movies

and I said, well, a movie length of time isn't that much time for character development. And then I was like, wait, that's not true. It's like, look at how succinct. Sincely he can do it. But also, again, the pacing is so not rushed. But it's like, how can you have such a delightfully kind of like exploratory meandering, of a movie while also building such profound character development. Because I feel like even in the way we described it earlier, where it's like, it's just

really, it's one great scene after another, it, I feel like there are, oftentimes you see movies that are written like plays that are boring. Yeah. And this is not. This is not, but it is written like a play. Thank you. Thank you. Damn.

Wow. Wow. Oh, my God. It's so nice. Oh, no. Ha ha ha. They're moving into that brownstone. Good Lord.

Having that whole space. No. oh yeah so all of this was improvised wow Rosemary's baby's baby fish mouth baby fish mouth baby fish mouth

Baby fish Ha ha ha ha. ... Baby fish mouth. You're just some borough The looks The looks from across the way How are we feeling?

I'm busting out the crystallometer. I was just thinking like, wow, I'm, I like that fit. Interesting, like this. There's a guy on Twitter that, like, discusses menswear, and he, like, is always showing, like, you know, Dustin Hoffman from this era, Billy Crystal, like, and how good the fits were and, like, just how complimentary they are to, like, men's wear. and how bad men's fashion is now. And that's a long way of saying that I might be attracted to Billy Crystal. Zabar's coffee.

Yeah. I figured. Figured it was good. And I know you're not going to be in love with the other one because of the basketball diaries. I'm not going to be in love with the basketball diary. And he reminds me of my father. And then now I guess my, I can't watch basketball.

diaries because I would think about my father's old best friend and I'd be like, oh my God, he's a creepus. Yeah, he is a creepest. Oh, he's coming over. But without any of the romance, Holden and I did have. a moment like this when I called him after being like very, very broken up with. And I called him and he came over in the middle of the night and we just got drunk. We just drank all night long. Who would have thought that this viewing of when Harry met Sally would end up with Jackie

realizing that this is basically her and Holden except for the part where they fall in love, which is what the original script was supposed to be? Oh my God, we're Nora Ephron. A writer. Yeah, I kind of had this with two of my male best friends, but I just moved in with them. I was like, I've been, I need to break up with my partner. Can I come with you like now? And they were like, yes, come right over. Oh, God.

Relatable, Meg Ryan. Oh, it hurts. Oh, my God, MJ. It's true that it's not the same for men. I'm about to turn 40, Jackie. I know, man. 40's right around the quarter of me. We're entering the year.

This is New Year's of entering the year I turn 40. Wow. How are we feeling? Do you feel that it's the end? To do something fun, but have I know? But yeah, no, I've been reflecting on it. I'm scared. I got, I must have gotten married the year I was 30 because it's also going to be my 10-year

wedding anniversary. So I must have not felt like a- I must have gotten married. I must have not felt like a failure. It didn't phase you? Well, I'm trying to be like, did I have a crisis when I turned 30? But I think I wasn't because I was planning a wedding. You feel like a failure?

What do you mean? You just graduating grad school. You have an amazing family. I know. You live in the mega center of the world? No, but you know, the same way that Meg Ryan, you know, it's like this, the existential question. It is existential. It's that.

You're right. It is the... I know. Bing, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming, Ming. Wow. But you also know, it's like, but guys, is this the right time? I know. I really, I really like, it actually does make me a little uncomfortable.

Yeah, look, but don't. Look at his face. He knows. What's going on with you, he knows. because he doesn't want to just be a rebound. Yes. Yeah.

And he does want to mess up the friendship. Maybe this is why. Maybe because I saw this movie in high school, I never, it scared me out of ever fucking around with a friend, ever. Even though I know it ends up fine, but. I mean, sometimes doesn't. Yeah.

And like his, like, face. I've lost a couple of friends. Yeah. But also at the same time, I'm like, fine with the friends I've lost. I'm like, okay, well. Right. Right.

I think you can either, like, have a little fuck around and then just go back to normal. Or it turns into a relationship. I was just always so. I was just always so scared of Or it goes poorly and then you don't speak to each other anymore and you lose the friendship that has happened

That is scary though Yes it's very scary Also whatever Is he gonna hold her for 30 seconds Is he gonna hold her for 30 seconds? Oh, I can't. I can't. But also, though, I really love her sheet quilt combo.

For sure. Looks very cozy. I wouldn't because, like, I feel like that's just, you know, I have a very goth bedroom, you know? Like, I feel like this, like the weirdness right afterwards scared me straight. Like, can't, can't ever fuck around with a friend. But also, it's like, it's not bad. It's not bad.

That's, I understand that now. But I think what. But also at the same time, though, that is still very, like, really, like, Real and very oh this is the scene that he said is the hardest thing he's ever had to do it's all having to do they had to do it all in one go all the cameras were going at once and it had to It's true and find out of the other than the other people. I forgot there was also something else going on that was making it very difficult that, like, oh, because they weren't in the same room, so they couldn't hear each other. So it was all, like, they had to get the timing of it just right. And they did it, I think, 62 times.

And that was, like, the 60-second take or something. Jesus Christ. I think I just need to watch. all of Rob Reiner's films now. Oh no, it was too relieved. Oh, no, but it's also... Oh, my God, it's... movie like at such a different point of my life. Yes. I'm so

glad. We're watching this. Don't worry. Sex and the City movie will always be there. Oh, I'm pretty sure that we I don't know. Do we have to watch it in chunks next year? Like I just feel like that's a lot. Like that's a like, why is it

similar to a Lord of the Rings? Like there's no need for that. Yeah. Yeah, it really is a Lord of the Rings. level who see i have had this i don't know how i've had that experience if i've never really fucked around with friends but i have had that that feeling we're just like oh it doesn't feel right it doesn't feel right oh yeah you've just had the you know yeah you you that's a that's another universal oh yeah no that's a that's a universal oh yeah no that's a

Oh, yeah. You know that one. Especially seeing each other again, and then you were thinking that it wasn't, and then you see each other and you're like, oh, yeah, no, no, no, no. I'm done with this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to do this. Did they stop being friends?

They just kind of grew apart? Oh, no. It doesn't show any of your body whatsoever. Is that what you're going for? If it is, it looks great. I think we did learn that Carrie Fisher was a bit traumatized by the bikini scene with the job of the hut. Oh, yeah. Maybe she did not love showing her body that much.

Yes, I imagine. And she's not made to in this, which is good. Big puffy sleeves. You got to get away from that. I mean, it's also the late 80s. Yeah, yeah. I think this must have been getting hot at the time. any people attracted to women.

Did you get voters for this at this time? Yeah, you, yeah, you went to this? You love big sleeves? I mean, don't get me wrong. I love big sleeves. I'm fucking now with some big sleeves. Yeah.

I love big sleeves. I mean, as someone that has been the efficient at a wedding of people that I set up, I'm going to throw it out there. That wedding felt like it was a party for me. Like, I felt like I was, like I was the bell of the ball. And I wasn't taking the sunshine from the bride. It was actually, like, in a good way because my friend is actually the kind of. person that really does not like people looking at her. And so she was like, can you please? And I'm like, got it, baby. I understand the assignment. Oh, want me to shine. And so it was great.

That's perfect. But I also just kept talking her up and talking about how amazing she was, which is what I was doing. But it really does feel like it's a celebration for you. And I did tell both of their parents that. Did you know that the same person who officiated my wedding also officiated John's wedding same friend whoa same friend the eddie of that great friend grew yeah yeah exactly Shouldn't have bigger sleeves than the bride on her wedding day, Matt O'Brien. Whoa. Although, I love this dark green. You know, I'm just, I love a dark green.

Yeah, it's nice. Oh, ha ha ha ha ha, oh. Damn. Wow. Damn. Damn. that's such a way to put that oh man that's what you need we're back to Christmas

oh she's got a care of her own tree and she's still rocking the hat and you know she looks just as good You know, but you can't carry the tree. It's hard to get a tree by yourself. My friend was just over here, and he was going to walk his two-year-old home, and he's like, I'm going to get a tree on the way home, and I was like, no, you're not. What was he going to do? I mean, can't, some people can just.

He was going to do one hand over the shoulders, pushing the shoulder with the other hand. Jeff can do one of these, you know? He might have done it. He might have done it. I was in disbelief, but. Come here, Loveheart, you all, you all pilled out? Got to watch the cat for getting all pilled out. It sounds like you've got... Never mind.

cat's just gonna be extra relaxed it's fine poison control said it's fine i get it i get it man you know what's really weird now on the iPhone have you looked at your phone as you're receiving a voicemail because you can read what the person is saying in the voicemail and it makes me like It gives me that vibes where you can, like, listen to the, yeah, like the old school answering machine. That's interesting. I remember when my family got an answering machine. It was a huge, exciting deal for a long time we didn't have one. Oh, we workshoped that voicemail.

Oh, baby, did we? we all had to be okay with the voicemail because I feel like if someone. Because I feel like if someone was calling me like this I'd be really annoyed by it But here's the thing, you weren't home all the time. So it wasn't like someone that knows I can see it all the time. You know what I mean?

Right. Yes. No, I think that's why it was a little different. Oh, no, Meg Ryan. God, you have to catch people when they're home? Yeah, I know. Aw, Dick Lurks, Rock and Eve. Honestly, I take it back. This really is a new year's.

Yes. Because, like, the definitive moment is New Year's. Yes. I will say that the Sex of the City also has a Definitive Moment during New Year's, but this has two definitive moments during New Year's. Two different New Year's scenes. It is a New Year's movie. You're right.

I don't think anyone else thinks that Sex and the City of the Movie is a New Year's movie, except for me. But also, this always gives very autumnal New York Clives, like a Nora Ephron. It's a very Nora Ephron, you know. I feel like this. is the iconic fall movie, but. That's true. God, remember trying to get a fucking taxi on New Year's Eve from Manhattan? Oh, my God. That just unlocked a lot of memories. Oh, man. And you just knew how many, I meant multiple New Year's that I would have to walk across a bridge.

Always. You walk over the bridge. Yeah. But usually you're with somebody. You know, you're having, man, kissing on the bridge on New Year's Eve. It might be different now with lifts and stuff But yeah It used to be like No, no, no, you can't go Unless you're ready to walk back

You were wrong. You were wrong, Billy Crystal. Think about your life, Billy Crystal. You've been friends all this time. Oh, New York. New York, you can't have me. You had me and you lost me. And you should think about that.

Oh. Yeah. New York is a bad. It's a brutal X. Where you crickle your nose. I love it when you're cold when it's 71 degrees outside, MJ. Oh my God, MJ. He's running.

He's running. You know it's real when you're running through Manhattan. When he's running. Oh, God. No, I had, I mean, hell no. I never. I always found somebody. Really? I had so many kissless New Year's.

I didn't need pity kisses. Oh, there were kissless ones. Yeah. Oh, there were kissless ones. So many kissless ones. But not like, once we were in like the comedy community it's like once you're with a bunch of people then you're just kissing everyone's kissing oh I hope they don't call it grouchin

it's like the movie society um okay Oh! Ah! Ah! This is absolutely a New Year's movie. Oh, the great to speak for God and that all legs on My own legs on.

Man, I'm a sucker for the song. You know they're only going to get better and better at communicating. They are because they have a lot of practice. Old times past. Oh, Jackie, Jackie, Jackie, Jackie, why did you destroy me tonight? Oh, my son. Oh.

Oh, my God. I'm a mess. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You're a genius. We're sorry, Bruno Kirby. Yeah, sorry, Bruno Kirby, that you'll forever be a pervert in my mind because of basketball diaries.

We're pretty sure you're not a pervert in real life. I mean, I haven't looked into it, but like I don't think that that's something that people think about you. So I guess I shouldn't even say that. But I did, so I'm sorry. Well, again. But thank you, everybody. If anyone wants to talk about the basketball diaries, you know, sound off in the comments.

Thank you, everybody. This, I am, I just hope, I hope that you're filled with love and that we're ready to just go kick 2026 in its butt. Yeah, man, fucking 2025 started with fires and ended with the loss of, Rob Reiner, and I got big, high hopes for 2026. Let's go in with this beautiful energy of this beautiful, touching, perfect movie. Oh, my God. Everybody, happy New Year. We love you guys so much. We love you. Thank you guys so much. We'll do it together. We'll be back soon. All right. Godspeed, everybody. Happy New Year, Jackie. I love you. I love you too. Jay, happy new year.

I don't want any resolutions, but I think that I do want to start wearing more accessories, but not hats. I don't know. Every time I try hats, the hats don't stick. Maybe this is the year. You think so? I lose them.

Am I too immature for hats? Until this year you work. Let's discuss. All right. All right. Bye. Bye everybody. This show is made possible by

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