Painkiller Already - Painkiller Already #282

Episode Date: May 20, 2016

This week on PKA, Jeremy, voice & creator of Cinema Sins joins the show and the guys get heated over the Syrian Refugee crisis, talk about how they would all fare in a country jail, being successful in life and what it means to be a man is answered from the Patreon AMA questions.

Alright, welcome to Painkiller Already, episode 282 with our guest Jeremy from CinemaSins. I'd like to thank our sponsors of tonight's show, Squarespace, Dollar Shave Club, Helix Sleep, Headspace, Score Big, Total War, Warhammer, and Wendy's. Speaking of Wendy's... Wendy's, you say? Well, right now I'm not talking to everyone listening. I'm just talking to you. That's because Wendy's Jalapeno Fresco Spicy Chicken Sandwich is so flavorful and so hot, it's not for everyone. It's just for you. We tried it.

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Like Woody says, they really took a risk with these things, but I'm digging them. The jalapeno fresco spicy chicken sandwich is only available for a limited time at participating Wendy's, so go get yours today. All right. Our guest is Jeremy Scott from Cinema Sins. His video's not on right now. Before the show started, it was coming and going, so we expect it to come back. I give five sins for that.

I deserve it, obviously. Several sins, yeah. My video's working fine on my end. Just for the record, this could be some kind of smear campaign conspiracy on the part of you guys. Just for the record. I just want to state that for the listeners. He caught on

way faster than everybody else. I'm having a hard enough time with my own internet for me to interfere with yours, which is an amazing undertaking for someone with my skills, I promise you. Although right now, I'm rocking 30 down, 30 up, so I might just not say anything when the lights go off here and just stay here and game tonight.

Nice. Everything's pretty much gone according to plan for starting the show today right you know i i don't want to really write can you hear me okay if i speak at this level yes yes so i don't want to raise my voice too loud because cindy the um the lady who is in charge of booking not all my accommodations thus far um as well as a number of other i think she's got lots of responsibilities so it's not like her job is like getting people hotels her job right now is getting me some water taking a long fucking time just gonna say it uh it's okay there's no way she could ever find out what

we're about to say i hope she does because she needs i told her a minute ago i was like i feel disrespected i feel like you don't care very much about me um and she's just oh no and i'm like oh yeah oh yeah she's like how's the new place i'm like well there's a there's an old mattress in the kitchen there's an old mattress in the kitchen and the internet's terrible that's why i'm here that's why i'm here and we had this long talk like like this there was planning like you remember how it went last time it helps yeah this time before i came back i was like let's nail down this fucking accommodation bullshit like i'm not coming back unless we can nail that down and i'm staying in in an okay place. It looks okay. It's fine. It's somewhat lived in,

but I think you get that with Airbnb. I don't know. This guy's stuff is there. You know, the refrigerator has his shit in it. Like, he has an office back there with, like, that's, like, his stuff's in there. Like, his computer, and it looks like he, I don't know what he does for a living, but there are a lot of, like, LCD screens lying around that look like the kind that go on the front of a laptop. All the wiring is exposed on the back. They're sort of newly packaged. So I got there

this afternoon. It sounds like for a camera, maybe. No, these are big LCD screens. And they're flat. It's not like a panel. It's not wired into anything. It's ready to be installed, I suppose but i got here just in the nick of time uh to my hotel this afternoon to make this show happen we're doing a little bit early tonight or at least that was the plan

and uh i checked the internet and it was 0.7 upload and and or excuse me 0.7 download and 3.0 upload um kind of a weird disparity there. It's usually the other end, you know, bigger download than upload. But I think that's common around here for God knows what reason. And then I tried tethering to my phone. And at first I tried to like, I followed your instructions completely

and did the whole thing. And it says not, it was unable to connect. And then I tried to just do an open tether that anybody in the apartment building presumably could just connect to. And that wouldn't work either. So I got a ride to the movie studio. So this is my, like, well, this isn't actually my dressing room.

But this is one of the dressing rooms on the movie studio. So small setup, 30 by 30, shouldn't have any issues. Very upset at Cindy, though. Cindy's just the worst. Tell me more about the conversation. Oh, gosh, don't get me started on Cindy. Because you're like, hey, I feel really disrespected. And I kind of – I was telling Jackie about that in a car ride today

because I was just like – he was out there last week for – is it four days? Do I have that right? Yeah. And they didn't – like that whole trip didn't need to happen. Well, see, that didn't bother me. So the first trip I came out here and I was scheduled to film for two days. But the first day was important because that was wardrobe. I had to get fitted for this suit and we had to figure out if I was going to wear this big

ridiculous wig or not and we had to figure out how to do the scar on my eye and everything. And filming just got pushed and they just didn't need me for any of those days. So yeah, that sucked that it got delayed so much. But now I'm back out here and I wish they could get my fucking accommodation situation

handled. It's awful. Can I ask what you're filming? Are you allowed to talk about that? I'm curious. No, I'm not. Oh, well then I just ruined the podcast. Sorry. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. It's fine. I've mentioned that before

that I can't go into details about what I'm doing. There's always an NDA or two between me and that. But yeah, we'll see what you wrote here. Alright, well I look forward to whatever it is. It doesn't matter about that because of the NDA that I'm under and all. I understand that. I was typing it before you said it. I hear you. mind yeah and all i i understand that i was typing it before you said i hear you i hear you yeah so so yeah i'm back out here again the first actual hockey fan that we've ever had on the show which

means that we can have a real conversation about hockey no woody well you're not your host doesn't count like first guest where we could talk about it because every time we have a guest on it's always like i don't know it's even the one canadian guy that we get doesn't give a shit harley you know i was so excited about him coming on and he just oh no i'm not into hockey you know i'm the one canadian who doesn't wow how is that even possible right i know right really if you want to find a hockey fan you gotta look in nashville apparently i thought it was in the dna of canadian people like that was like part of the breeding process. He apologized, so... It should be.

So Nashville is playing San Jose. They're about to start in four minutes right now. You have my completely divided attention. He's talking mad shit to Jeremy. Yeah, well, he likes to talk shit, but he's a new hockey fan, and he's sort of like dealing with freshmen in high school you know you could just talk too much and you just kind of shrug and put up with jeremy's counter shit is the

best so here's the deal chis doesn't have a history with hockey so he'll say things that are like like astute observations like really intelligent stuff that you know he just read, right? Like he read it minutes earlier talking about some guy's power play percentage and, I don't know, man advantage and penalty this or whatever. Like he'll break down something and you're like, dude, where did he pick that shit up? Because I know it's not a personal observation. And then 10 seconds later he'll be like, why do they pull the goalie? Can you just do that anytime you want

what's the funniest thing about it is like like as a blues fan I don't talk shit because it's never panned out ever and so no matter how much I'm beating someone that game where we butt fucked Dallas last night didn't say I didn't say anything before the game was over like I even then the only thing I tweeted was a picture of the Dow

Or the yeah the Dallas bench and all the fans behind there with that crying Michael Jordan face on And that was hilarious to me But I love how they're doing that with everyone but shiz doesn't know enough about the Sharks To know that he should not be talking shit. Because right behind the Blues, the Sharks are the biggest chokemasters of all time. Well, we've got Anaheim out there, too. But, yeah, I applaud his enthusiasm. I have been enjoying Chiz's enthusiasm for hockey.

And when I was a new hockey fan, I was probably exactly the same way. So I'm having fun with it. It's just funny to know that he doesn't have quite the history that his tweets might suggest he does. Yes. Yes, yeah. There's a lot of very specific critiques on, you know, he's like, you know, I really think that San Jose's zone entry has been lacking recently.

Ward hasn't been, you know, his forecheck has has been bad he doesn't look like he's trying out there what's it called when they shoot the ice the the icing machine that it's the ice yeah they did all that work to make it not as slippery and then they ruin it you know so a question for you about about nashville barrett jackman is a huge figure or was here for the st louis blues since we drafted him and he was one of our defensemen for over a decade i think or at least a decade and we traded him to you guys how's i haven't followed him really at all since that trade how's he been doing for you well well enough i mean i think he was at a point in his career where i mean we've got i think one of the best decor in the league right we've got shea weber roman yosi we just traded away ryan suiter and kevin klein in the last two years rd has been

solid for a long time so i don't think he was brought in to be a top three defenseman i think he was brought in you in for that veteran experience and to maybe mentor, because our decor is still pretty young. And I've been pretty impressed. I've watched the play of the offensive players more than the defensive players. I'm almost always watching Mike Fisher or Phillip Forsberg or one of those guys just to see what they're doing,

whether they have the puck or not. Now, five years ago, it was David Leguan, who was one of my favorite Preds players ever, even though he never lived up to what he should have. His puck handling and speed were insane, and you never knew when he was going to create something. And that's why I tend to watch the offensive players more. But I've been really happy with that, Trey.

What did you guys get back for him? Are you happy with what you got? I don't even remember what we got for him. Didn't we get a pick? I think you did. I think you did. I think we did. Because, yeah, that's definitely the reason they brought him in for you guys

because he is a veteran defenseman. And, like, people now, they look only at stats. Like Chiz, he fell into this trap with Brent Burns, the star defenseman for San Jose. they look at only its stats like chis he fell into this trap with brent burns uh the stars or the star defenseman for san jose he gets a ton of points a lot of goals and assists for a defenseman he used to play winger that's why but if you look at his actual stats it's like yeah he's getting a lot of fucking goals and assists but he's on the ice giving a lot of opportunities away too whereas like barrett jackman a defensive defenseman he's never going to have a good goal every time he scored in st louis like even the fans treated

it like you know the handicapped kid on the soccer team they like put the ball in front of him they let and they his parents came out and wheeled him in front everybody's like oh my god jackman you you oh my god jackman that's so great we're so proud of you i think nobody expects him to score he fills the role on defense the way pa Gostad does on offense for us, bringing just his experience. He's solid. He's not going to make a huge mistake. He's a shutdown guy.

Yeah, yeah. I've been very happy. He's one of those stay-at-home guys. We've got plenty of offensive defensemen on our team. Shea Weber and Yossi like to shoot almost as much as anyone on our offensive line. But, no, I've been really happy with it. It's fun to talk hockey. I've never guessed it on a podcast where they even gave a shit.

Oh, it's great. I've never hosted on a podcast where they gave a shit. All right. Yeah, Kyle could not care any less, but I am so glad that Chiz is into it now. The winner of San Jose versus Nashville plays St. Louis. That's correct. So this is dramatic, guys. Well, you're either going to be fighting with your own co-host

and his fake fandom, or you're going to be fighting with me probably, you know, in make-believe land, since we're doing this podcast now and the series will be later. Well, this is 2016. I like to think over the internet is where real fighting happens now yeah you can i'll send a few nasty tweets your way and and nasty tweets do tend to rule my decision making

right like that i base most of my life on what twitter is saying to me as you should yeah i for one based my life on what reddit and youtube me. As you should. I, for one, base my life on what Reddit and YouTube comments say. See, I don't even read the YouTube comments anymore. I mean, I can't. I don't read your YouTube comments, so maybe

your fan base is a little nicer than ours. You know what? With the exception of today, my fan base has turned really nice. Yeah. Like, if you were to go back to when I made all these gaming videos,

that wasn't true. But now on the vlog videos, even my mom called me to tell me how nice everybody was being. Wow. If my mom called me to tell me she saw, let alone just saw one of my videos, I think I would die.

Oh, my world's crossover all I would die. Like, oh. My worlds crossover all the time now. Yeah. Yeah. I got my mom calling my wife, talking about my videos. And it's just the whole thing is, yeah. That sounds awful. It must always feel like you're trying

to get away with doing something bad in high school, where you're listening for your mom know your wife talking on the phone hoping they're not talking about what you said oh can you do i don't know yeah so my like my friends my mom uh they all know my wife does not watch my stuff and that leads for i don't know people like talking about this but yeah my mom will talk to my wife about something and if it's pka or whatever she has no idea what she's talking about if it's things that happen in real life she knows typically like oh yeah yeah he was out you know doing that the other day and she can keep up yeah my wife doesn't watch our stuff either like in in the beginning i used to like try like oh you've seen this movie watch

this bit since video for the and she was so polite like she would sit there for ten minutes and so it's not I don't I don't force it upon her anymore I've learned my lesson I've got a similar thing but it's usually not my videos it's people that I admire it's like you know check out this guy's video did don't you get like a an excited vibe from this thing it's 12 minutes into this video and I'm still wait you know like thirsting for more yeah you know and she's like no no I don't feel that way at all I really like to leave right now I don't remember who said this or if it's like a comedian or something but

there is nothing more horrible than having to sit through a youtube video that someone's showing you because it is there even if it's a video you would watch independently it's like i want to watch this on my own late at night when i'm procrastinating like i don't want you to come to me in the middle of the day and like make me especially if it's on a phone oh my god and if it's a song just shoot me if i have to sit there and watch a music video on someone's phone again like that's so inconsiderate dude the like the song in particular is i think is the worst the worst like it and whenever you play a song for something like i don't do it anymore but like years ago whenever you're like dude you'll like this song check this out and you play it and you're like, uh...

Hold on. The good part's gonna come. No, no, no. It gets good. It gets good. And then the good part comes and it's like anticlimactic and it just... It's a fail. Don't play songs for people. You're sitting there like... You're looking down at their phone, but they're always looking right at the side of your head

seeing how you're watching it. And it's like, now you're studying to make sure I'm paying attention to your bullshit music video on your iPhone 6. That's not fair. I wouldn't do that to you. Can you tell Cindy to maybe hustle it up? Yeah.

Hey, Cindy. What's up? Cindy, more coffee. We've heard not nice things about you Yeah, you sound like a real terror You've disappointed Kyle badly Kyle does not like you, Cindy Kyle, is Cindy still there? No, it wasn't Cindy

Cindy put me in a room with a bunch of people's stuff So people are filtering in and out to get their things Oh! Cindy fails again How many levels has she failed on today like six when you said cindy i feel really disrespected and she said oh no was that like oh well chucks now that i'm aware i'm about to do something no she didn't care it was just like oh no what a shame i can't wait till i exit this conversation and do nothing was it like the kind of customer

service you get from the government where they're like oh oh really ah darn you don't like it that sucks because we're the only one yeah you know you can't go buy your license from you know a private institution but yeah very frustrating very much frustrating uh did burns just score chis chis just ducked out he said he needed to restart his skype uh anyway i'm sure jeremy will keep updates with the score oh shucks they did yeah like i said before you have my divided attention i'm looking at the game every three seconds. I apologize in advance, but I love hockey, and technical delays

that are no one's fault caused this to be a little later than we thought, and goddammit, my team has never had a more important game. Yeah, Cindy and Kyle. So the people, I'm screencapping all the things, and they shifted. When Chiz gets back, everything will be fine again, but I feel like

it'll take me as long to fix it as it will for him to get back. It's not worth it. Oh, the gun used to shoot Trayvon Martin is for auction. Yeah. I put in a bid.

What kind of sick bastard Oh, wait. Yeah, that's messed up. When I read about that, that's terrible. Say what you want about that guy. I think we've kind of rehashed the scenario on how things went down two or three different times and we come to the conclusion that everyone involved was a bad guy. That's what I believe because it seems that um peterson and martin were both at fault in their own ways peterson seems like an overzealous uh gunner gun nut and that's coming from me okay um like you know patrolling his neighborhood i imagine him

doing like like dressed all in black and doing like barrel rolls through the bushes and stuff and like popping up like looking around um Meanwhile, Trayvon is certainly no angel. They're like, oh, he was just trying to go home with his Skittles and tea, and then we learned that there's some street drug called lean, and those are ingredients to it, and he was into that. There are no angels

in this scenario, but Peterson, what a scumbag for selling that. That is... Pardon me. Who's Peterson? He runs a football for Minnesota. Ah, of course. Adrian Peterson. Yes, yes.

So close. Well, in any case, real scumbag move doing that. I don't know what to say about that. That just seems so low class, so like. Dude, I don't know if I might edit it out. He's just a desperate attempt to get back in the public eye. He's just a piece of shit that now has no job prospects and has to rely on

basically baiting racists into paying for his stupid shit. I think he's just trying to make money. Yeah, he just needs money. I bet he doesn't want to be in the public eye. Such an asshole. Dude, so to me... Look, I'm not buying the gun.

So don't get it twisted. But I have this Mosin-nagant that was used in world war ii and something about it is interesting to me because kyle's face is killing me yeah it's how he does that he does it's cool so because like i picture some frightened russian like in the mud, clutching to this thing, shooting. It's antiquity. It's a piece of history. Now, would you feel the same if you had a Japanese Arasaka rifle that they had used in the rape of, what is it, Nanking?

Nanking. Nanking. And they bayoneted the babies and stuff. If you had one of those baby bayoneting rifles, would you feel the same wouldn't you feel bad it's just history no but like it would be more interesting to me so so i have a brand new gun not brand new but you know i have a gun that i bought that's never shot anything but paper and it's more accurate than the mosin-nagant it's got a scope it's better in most measurable ways but the mosin-nagant is neater to me yeah i don't think there's any problem with like just keeping one that was used in the rape of nan king or whatever as a historic piece because it's like

yeah that was a bad part of history but it's still history like if you had one of those like iron crosses from the nazis you don't have to put it on your wall and be like, that's what I like. You can just be like, this is a piece of history. This is cool that this is history right here. Funny you should mention that. My buddy had a Luger he was trying to sell one time. It was a German officer's Luger.

He's like, look, they didn't deface it or anything because that was common after the war. Bring back weapons. Americans would bring back captured weapons, but they would deface them. Especially Lugers. Yeah, they would deface them and take the Nazi insignia off. And of course, to a collector in modern days, you're like, no! But, you know,

post-World War II, you're like, fuck Nazis! You know, who cares, right? But he had one with all the emblems intact and, and I don't know how you verify this, but he claimed that this had come from a concentration camp and that this pistol had been used to execute Jews and that there were blood speckle pitting on the barrel. You could never know that. They explained to me that because of the way that the pitting was and the pattern that it was in, you could tell that it had been put to someone's head

and fired and the blood had speckled back and then been left on the gun and had corroded in such a way. That's what they said. Now I don't know how they figured that out. They get the gun CSI in or whatever or maybe he's just wishful thinking on his part. If you can call it that. Like what kind of anti-Semite is like yeah it took a few down.

Right, right, yeah, yeah. I think you have to be a real special kind of piece shit to be collecting like nazi memorabilia and looking at it longingly but i don't understand the whole thing of like wanting to collect world war ii stuff but somehow like oh no no no no no like the german stuff totally off limits that's ridiculous to me the russian and american stuff is the neatest uh And then after that, the German stuff is really neat. The Japanese stuff is really neat. It's all...

Does antiquity mean piece of history? It's an antique machine that played a role in global history. Okay, but let's center the conversation. We're talking about George Zimmerman. This is two, three years ago. This is not an antiquity. This is not history. On a smaller scale, though. It is history, three years ago. This is not an antiquity. This is not history. On a smaller scale, though.

This is totally different than a Nazi's pistol. It is history, though, I think. I feel like... This is evidence. Stop, Chiz. You can't just join the... I think Chiz is a great host. I think he does a wonderful job,

and he's always welcome to be on. But I think what we do here, where he's always welcome to be on but i think what we do here where he just writes his own inside jokes and we read him is it's not a good show but uh uh what was i gonna say about the gun being you said we were gonna defend the george zimmerman gun sales i guess what i was saying was like i i feel like in the same way that like the black lives matters movement got founded by, is it Michael Brown? Who was killed by that cop in Ferguson? Michael Brown.

Okay. I feel like in terms of history, the Trayvon Martin thing is the same significance as the Michael Brown thing. It becomes part of a series of events where people are looking at police indifferent and the militarization of police and it's a it's not world war ii i get that but i don't know something about it i'm not buying it but i saw it for sale and i was like i can understand why somebody would this sounds dumb but it hasn't been long enough for it to be history yeah like it's just it's a couple years ago and there's a difference between you know you know wow this is a rifle that was assigned to a japanese guy and he stormed into nan king and was killing people willy-nilly like what an awful part of

history but you still have to remember the bad parts of history too and it's different than oh yeah this this guy shot trayvon martin and i just want to remember that. There's no value in remembering that. I want to know what happens from that shooting to make this gun worthy of me caring about. We are nowhere near far enough out to know that. I went to the Ford Museum in Detroit and I saw the car

that Lincoln was shot in, or the chair that Lincoln was shot in, the car that JFK was shot in, and I understand the historical importance of those things being preserved but we don't know what this gun means yet and we won't for 10 or 20 years it's way too soon this is a broke ass motherfucker just looking for some cash trying to cash in on a hot button issue and he's gonna succeed because we've got all these trump supporters out there who are probably all

kicking each other's asses trying to bid on this shit. Maga, he has sold lots of things. I remember he was doing, he does all kinds of things that are firearm related and conservative leaning. It seems like he was selling paintings for a while, doing his own art and lots of firearms related stuff. He'll go to

grand openings of gun stores and do appearances at gun stores and stuff. Like I said, I don't think he did anything wrong, criminally speaking. I just think he's an asshole and a scumbag and a low-class individual to sell this thing. It's morally but not legally reprehensible. I don't know how much money he has,

but I have more sympathy for him. If he can't get a job and he's selling stuff that you know like like this gun um yeah like I I get the spot he's in you know I don't if he's broke I mean I I do and I don't I mean I do in the sense that I've been broke and I spent two years the first time I moved to Nashville I sold my amp to a pawn shop every other week but this guy was like you said news for six months with his exactly and then calling him a monster so he can't get a job he was out patrolling with his gun looking for bad guys that he thought needed to be eradicated before any of this ever happened i think i mean wasn't he the leader of like citizen watch and there were recent break-ins yep something like that i don't mean i just don't think i mean hey i patrol my yard

with an assault rifle all the fucking time and hey what am i doing out there but looking for bad guys right and if i but but the thing is if i saw somebody like walking around my first inclination wouldn't be to fucking kill them it would be like hey what are you doing here well neither you shouldn't be here you don't belong here would be like, hey, what are you doing here? You shouldn't be here. You don't belong here. The problem I have is that it seemed like neither Zimmerman or Martin were the sort to de-escalate. If I was either one of them, none of this would have happened. If I was Trayvon Martin, I would have said,

oh, yeah, there's a misunderstanding here. My uncle is right there, and I don't normally stay here, but that's why i had to jump the fence but i'm just going to my uncle's home i'll be sleeping watch when i knock on the door he'll answer and they'll all say hey trayvon and it's cool and or if i was zimmerman i would have been like hey like what are you doing here and if he's like you know nothing i'm gonna be laying out you gotta understand we've had some break-ins recently on citizens watch the community watch and uh i'm just making sure everything is chill you chill like on either side if they're reasonable

it would have been cool but i think we should buy the gun pka should buy the gun we should have it i don't want anything to do with buying that minimum bid we'll all get a you know a week with it at a time or whatever we'll'll pass it around, do shit with it. I heard Maury Povich on the Howard Stern show today, and he was talking about his friendship with George H.W. Bush. They had been golfing buddies long before he had become the president. And so after that, every year at least, he said he would go to the White House and have lunch with the president.

And he said, you know, we never talked about policy or anything like that. But once he pulled out a handgun. He said, check this out. He gave me a gun. I looked at it. I said, well, that's very nice. He says, that's Saddam's gun. That's the gun they took off of him when they dug him out of that spider hole. And he had it. That's awesome. See, that's history. That's history.

That is history because there's significance. Exactly. I'm not... I'm in a different place. I don't feel like most people who collect Nazi stuff don't do it because they're white supremacists, I don't think. I think that they do it because that's a segment of their obsession with World War II.

They don't just have a Nazi thing. They have the American stuff, the Russian stuff. That's part of the collection. Nobody is collecting guns from other killers in these similar scenarios. They're not like, oh man, there was another shooting that ended up being kind of a kerfuffle in Connecticut, and I am bidding on that gun right after this.

It's like, no. The Saddam Hussein's gun, though? That's history, I said. That's history, that's nice. I wouldn't want some random crime gun or anything like that, because they usually destroy those anyway. That's the thing. They usually give them back when they're innocent. Yes, exactly.

That's why he has his. That's why he still has the guns there to be auctioned off, is because he was found to be innocent. That whole thing's a mess. I couldn't come from a different perspective than you do, Kyle, because I've fired a gun only one time in my life. I used to work for Regal Cinemas. I was a manager, and I won some monthly combo selling concession contest.

Why? And they sent me to Texas for, like, a two-day cowboy dude ranch experience, and part of that was, like, going to this glass bottle six-gun firing range, and I literally fired all six shots in like three seconds and dropped the gun and walked away. It scared the crap out of me, man. I know I don't have the experience. I'm a preacher's kid, not a cop's kid

or whatever, but man, it just scared the crap out of me. Maybe that's part of why I view this as such a wrong gun to auction off. In general, guns feel kind of weird to me dude i was do you know what kind of gun it was no it was it had a white grip and it had it was this you know russian roulette spinny six shooter yeah i didn't come from a gun house my pka fans have heard this before and uh i didn't get into guns until i was an adult call me like 35 or something when i was first shooting i was literally thinking to myself like oh you know

like i wonder what my mom would think if she knew this like i might get in trouble like you're being bad yeah yeah exactly like i was being bad like like i had snuck off and done this without telling her and uh there might be some repercussions but yeah there weren't i mean i'm i don't i guess if he wants to sell it and somebody wants to buy it the like commercialist in me is like okay let it happen go on if there's a market for it i don't really have a problem with it but it it just feels a little skeezy to me is all yeah morally it's really yeah i think to everyone just you shouldn't be able to say, hey, you can't sell that.

He should be able to sell it. It's just you should also be able to call the guy who buys it a real piece of shit. There you go. So, Jeremy, what are you going to do when the zombies come? What? What am I going to do when the zombies come? I'm going to get on the roof.

Zombies don't know how to climb. How much food do you have? No, a buddy of mine actually has been obsessed since college with this idea of a zombie musical called Zombies Can't Climb where the heroes all get up on their roofs because they find out zombies are too stupid

and clumsy to climb. So that was my response. I'll get on the roof. You know, they can't climb. Yeah, but you're going to run out of food and die of exposure. That's right. I'd rather die of that than die of a zombie bite. And probably also I'll punch and kick some things and swing a golf club or two. I don't know. I mean, I really...

Zombies feel no pain. Now, you've got to keep in mind, a zombie is like a PCP'd out maniac who's hungry for your flesh. You better have a nine iron and be Tiger Woods if you're going to defend yourself. You got to really hit him. I've seen The Walking Dead. It doesn't have to be a gun. I could have a bow and arrow. I could have a machete.

The Walking Dead, too. That bow thing, it's cool to see Merle or whatever. It's not Merle. Whatever his name is running around with that bow and everything. That's absurd. That would never cut a show like that. Oh, I agree with you completely. It's fun to argue, but you're totally right.'s absurd. That would never cut it. Oh, I agree with you completely. I just, you know, it's fun to argue, but

you're totally right. Yeah, that shit doesn't cut it. He would be better off with, like, a bow that he could, like, put, like, like Legolas. Like, if he had, like, a compound bow where he could draw arrows from a quiver and fire them quickly. Yeah. But the crossbow is not, it's not a quick weapon. Uh-uh. Cocking it, you literally have to put it, like, nose down and step on a thing

and use both hands to pull the string unless you've got some kind of fancy crossbow with a cantilever thingy or something but crossbow's not a good weapon for anything really. No, I agree. No, it really seems like it came into and out of vogue very quickly. They're like, hey, we can shoot this arrow really hard

really straight and then real quick after that they're like, the Chinese figured out this gunpowder shit and it is pretty sweet. Way better than this fucking arrow. I think the crossbow was considered a dishonorable weapon. It was. they're like the chinese figured out this gunpowder shit and it is pretty sweet way better than this i think the i think the crossbow was considered a dishonorable weapon and it was and uh and also i think that it it had it had some advantages but some drawbacks i don't think it had the same range but it it was obviously any idiot could use a crossbow right it's really easy to point and shoot um but using a longbow, you've got to train a grown man for his whole life

to get him to learn how to use that thing as a soldier. If you're going to be a longbowman out on the field of battle, that bow's a 100-pound draw. Not just anybody can pull a 100-pound draw. England didn't use crossbows because they thought it was shameful. Yeah, that's true. At least initially. Because England's thing, they had excellent trained shameful. Yeah, that's true. At least initially, because England's thing,

they had excellent trained longbowmen, and then the crossbow came out, and it's just like anything, where as soon as they realized that they were shit out of luck, because someone immediately, like a child, could do exactly what they trained their whole life for, they go the route of like, well, we're so honorable

that we're not moving over to that technology. No, of course not. It's pretty difficult to reload a crossbow, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It takes a long time. I could probably load, if I had an empty crossbow sitting here and an arrow on the table, it would probably take me a solid seven seconds to get it ready to point and shoot. And I know how to use one.

I've got to put it nose down on the ground and use my foot to step on a thing that holds it to the ground and then with both hands I have to grab the string and pull back until it catches then pick it up like a rifle and put the arrow in its place or the bolt in its place and then aim and fire. It's kind of unrelated but have you guys seen that video of that guy

who taught himself his own bow and arrow method where he does all the acrobatics and yeah yeah like a way he speculates ancient bow masters may have fought um but just the fact that he's so dead on while he's doing all these flips and twirls and crap it's amazing yeah he's very good yeah yeah he had studied lots of uh lots of old literature and lots of old uh paintings and and i wanted to say photographs, but paintings and illustrations. That's what I was looking for.

Of archers from various cultures throughout history. And he found all these different ways of holding the arrows between multiple fingers. And all these different ways to grip them. And he is, if you've never seen it, search like world's fastest bow shooter or something like that. And you'll find him. He's very talented. It's amazing. I'm not qualified to debunk him. But apparently who are have that thing like crazy like they're all

just saying that it's fake that it's not true there's other people who like replicated his jumps and stuff and you can see the errors are like flying out of the quiver landing all over the ground and they look ridiculous i saw that whole thing too and like i watched the video the exact one you're talking about, where the dude's, like, legitimately doing, like, shield-sliding Legolas moves, like, running on the wall in gyms, like, boop, boop, boop, real quick,

and I read some comment where someone's like, resident archer expert here, let me explain all the reasons that this is bunk, and then I got, like, halfway through the comment, and I'm like, this is just, this is ruining the fun. I choose to accept this it's more fun to just imagine all the archers back then jump like parkouring

their way through battle but in reality there's no fucking way they did there's no fucking way they did just that this guy taught himself how to do he's accurate as fuck man like he's doing twirls and hitting the target they're editing videos I could look like that with enough retakes.

It's a montage. Are you saying that video is CGI? Is that what you're saying? No, I'm saying retakes. It's a montage. He's saying it took him a year to make it. That video is one that let the bodies hit the floor away from being a Call of Duty montage.

It's like trick shot videos, right? I can make a basket from the top of the goalkeeper's bridge if you give me 100 takes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It'd be like if Dude Perfect made a video where they're like, so, I studied Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and all the basketball players throughout history. I found a new way to hold the basketball.

Check this out. Or it makes the shot. You think that was hard? Let's step it on up to full court. Show you the grip again. See? Nothing to it, ladies and gentlemen. I study a lot of historical basketball players.

Going back to the Ming Dynasty, in fact, and, like, no. Yeah, let's try this from the top of a building into a parking lot. He just throws the ball, swish. It's funny that he used all of history to look at with like the paintings and everything because it's almost like, like you,

the archer in like Babylon was looking at like the ancient whatever, you know, Mesopotamian things on the wall of those archers being like,

look at these fucking rubes. They don't know what they're doing. You know, like they figured out something better. But this guy just went back and took bits and pieces from long, outdated methods

and cobbled it together into something that's really not useful in any sphere. It's kind of like becoming a basketball expert by starting out like, man, that white guy is tossing it up into that peach basket really well. I'd start taking notes. Where it's like, no, it started off bad for a reason. So they looked at these ancient drawings from like Mesopotamia or something on how to fire

an arrow. And the drawing is shit, right? There's like a guy with no fingers holding a bow and they're like, look, he's not looking with his eye to aim up the arrow. He's just pulling it instinctively. Meanwhile, it's next to a picture of a lion that looks like a male penis.

I guess all penises are male. Now you do have to specify that. The lion is just like two circles in an arch thing. I'm just imagining the scenario where someone's like, no, actually that's a female penis. Really? Are you sure? Well, she said it was. She said it was.

Representations of historical archery. Anyway. I believe in it, though. I'm going to stick my neck out there and I'm going to say that I'm going to believe it. And here's why. Here's why. Modern archers are...

I own two bows. I got a compound bow and a recurve bow. I don't shoot regularly, but I'm good with a bow, especially my compound bow. I definitely could hit a man from 50 yards. It just wouldn't be a problem. It's really a recreational kind of hobby thing with archery with me and with 99.99999% of the rest of the human population that's alive now however an older throughout history i feel like if you're a good if you're a good archer like wow you you might as well be a good lawyer or a good doctor or something i feel like we got a place for that guy he's a good archer really let me see oh shit he can hit he can throw it up and hit it yeah let's come on king's court let's get him a job i don't know the round table if your culture like relies on archers to defend them from the

the the barbarians at the gate you're inherently going to become a really good archer is it very hard okay yeah all right um it's the accuracy thing you know it's it's like asking how hard is it to throw darts it's easy to throw a dart but if you want to hit the bull thing. It's like asking how hard is it to throw darts. It's easy to throw a dart, but if you want to hit the bullseye every time, you better be practicing hours and hours on the end. With one hour practice, I could hit the board every time. How accurate do you need to be?

Have you ever shot a slingshot or something that didn't require aiming? It was more of a feel kind of thing? It's been a while, but yeah. Like the brace slingshots that are super strong? Those are cool. So when I shoot my recurve bow, I fire it kind of like that. I really don't aim down the sights or anything.

I have sights, but I've never attached them. It's really from feel pretty much all the time. And I'm not nearly as accurate as I am with my compound bow, which has really good fiber optic sights where you're looking through a peephole in the back and you've got a pin up front, and you can be very exacting. I think they're as accurate as rifles in my experience.

I mean, they put three arrows in a spot like that at 30 yards. The bow will. You doing that is another story. That's all skill. But bows are really really accurate but with that when you're shooting just from the hip like not really from the hip but when i'm shooting instinctively i'm accurate enough to put them all in something like this at 20 yards and with practice with hours of practice you know not weeks of practice but two hours two hours a

week or something yeah not useful to practice now. If that guy lived 1,500 years ago, what he's spent his life doing would make a lot of sense. Oh, yeah. He would be very famous and very wealthy, I guess, as the archer of the West or something like that, with, like, 80 kills. Well, the real question is,

if Attila the Hun's bow was for sale, would you buy it? Ah, you see, Attila used a very interesting kind of bow because they were all riding on horseback, so they had these really short sort of recurve bows they used that they could fire from the mounted horse. So yeah, if you get one of those, that'd be pretty sweet. I think they were the first people to really utilize the recurve bow.

The Mongols? Definitely the first ones to get on a horse and kind of become cavalry, you know, with the bows, with the mountedved bow. The Mongols? Definitely the first ones to get on a horse and kind of become cavalry, you know, with the bows, with the mounted archers. New topic? Oh yeah, go ahead. Unless you want to keep going. No, I was going to talk more about the

Mongols and the Huns, and so we can go ahead and skedaddle. There is one person out there like, no, fuck, I'm writing my thesis on the Mongols and the Huns. We're going to see one comment from

HunKid69 where he's like, goddammit, finally you're going to talk about my favorite conquering civilization and you just ditch it. Dude, so you guys know what Periscope is? Yes. It's what Periscope is? Yes. Yeah. All right, so Periscope, I guess...

It's live streaming, right? It's live streaming, but it's not gaming. It's typically like real life, carry it around you, whatever. This 19-year-old committed suicide. She, I don't know, I guess she normally like has tattoos and smokes cigarettes and sits on a couch or something, according to this article. But this time, she went over to a train station and threw herself under a train.

While she was periscoping? Did she set up her phone or she jumped in with her phone? Nobody I knew then. I was literally checking. I was like, I know a lot of tattooed, depressed bitches. Where did this happen? And if it wasn't clear, she was literally live. She was, like, periscoping while she did this.

Jesus. How did she commit the act? She threw herself under a train. Oh, that's right. You just said that. Of course. Yeah, the worst way. So I wonder if she was like, all right, here we go,

and, like, just, like, went with the phone, or did she, like, set it we go and like just like went with the phone or did she like set it up on a tripod so we could get the full angle like like how did she film this side this suicide i think that no paris if it's my understanding with periscope it's just it's your phone live streaming so and it's a train so she just i there's no way she set up her phone like a camera she's like i'm gonna take you on board with this suicide she's probably just jumping in like that's really sad and you have to wonder like would she have done that without the periscope like would she have killed like because clearly because that's like the crux of the matter you know like that in you're obviously going to get way more attention if you're doing it while periscoping and you know that it's going to be a news story and that people

are going to see your face on MSNBC or whatever. It's a little sobering for me, because about a year ago I was doing this series on Twitter where every day I would tweet what I felt was an original movie idea, sort of trying to encourage Hollywood to avoid remakes and sequels and move towards original. And I wrote a whole movie pitch for that about a guy who threatens to kill himself on periscope in mine it turns out to be a heist where he's faking it so

he can rip off this other business but yeah it's just freaking sad to me that's just i mean what does it say about this person where they're they would rather be liked and watched while dying than live? That's just fucked up. Do you think that's what it is, though? Don't you think that it's really just someone wanting attention? Not attention, necessarily. I guess it is attention, but it's a very different kind of attention and wanting it for a different reason. I feel like they're saying, the world

treated me like this, like that, like this. Watch what happens. Watch what I do. This is a lot deeper than I expected this podcast to get. Or any podcast. But in general, yeah, I think everybody wants to leave their mark on this world. Everybody wants to leave

a legacy that lasts beyond their own existence, whether it's their kids and what they accomplish or a book they wrote or some great work i think everybody has that pull and in some weird twisted way i think somebody could convince themselves that this kind of video is a legacy to leave the world and it's just it's just really sad to me because her life was snuffed out in pursuit of something that is ultimately not fulfilling. Do you remember a couple years ago, I don't remember

the girl's name, but it was some girl who uploaded a YouTube video of her doing that the worst style of video ever, I hate it, is when people just hold up signs and take it away. Oh yeah, it's the Bob whatever. that'll be my new channel woody the whole sign telling thing it's it's so difficult to watch those videos

because it's not at the pace that i read and it's not at the pace that i listen what right but anyway that girl she put up all the signs and i guess even before that video got popular she killed herself i think amanda amanda todd right that might be it that sounds really familiar that could be right but this isn't like the first time that's happened a dude killed himself on justin tv i think like if there was no attention aspect to it then they wouldn't be doing it on social media so there is some kind of attention seeking behavior there where you're wondering like if it yeah there you go she has thank you amanda todd where you're wondering like would they have done it if there wasn't this opportunity for this kind of attention

right i know you have to wonder you have to think they wouldn't have right like i mean i don't know how you guys are i'm 40 so i grew up in the 80s when there was there was none of this crap right there was no internet of any kind and if i I was going to do something, the only people it mattered to were the two people in the room when I did it. And now we're at this age where I think people strive so much to

like themselves and find worth in themselves that they can warp their minds to a place where they believe internet views equals worth. And I have a lot of views on the CinemaSins channel and it does not equal self-worth. Don't pop my bubble, dick. You've come to the wrong place with that nonsense.

We all here firmly... Look, if you don't have likes and favorites, then you're just not a real person. If you don't have at least a million likes under your belt at this point and you're 30 years old, then you're just a fucking loser out there. I'm talking to all of you out there.

I see the parallel. If you have not gotten to a quarter billion views yet and you're 30 years old, just fucking train, fucking pills, whatever. I am in the clear then because we have over a billion views. Yeah, you're so good. According to your life view,

I have self-worth now. You're great, yes. I got five years to figure my shit out it's not as bad as it sounds because the views compound over time it's the miracle of compounding yeah there's a lot of people that go back to watch those old zombies game plays

they go back and they're just accumulating views over time, just millions and millions. Oh, dozens a day! I've taken to lying to my subscribers about likes every video. I have an N-slate card and every time I make up something

new about why they should like the video. Girls love guys who click like it's science you can't dispute it and just remember like do you ever go back to youtube channels that are like huge now and watch one of their videos from like 2009 and the whole thing is just full of annotations and just bullshit ways that they don't talk anymore where it's like smiley face smiley face exclamation point a like would really help me out and it's like what is this up to franco's channel what the fuck go back and check and it's like who i don't know it's kind of endearing but annotations are not worth it like i see people

sometimes and i feel like they they disfigure their video with lots of annotations to like redirect to lots of places and not just at the end of the video in an end slate but like throughout the video there'll be big and I'm fine if you got a little one anywhere of the edges, corners, whatever that maybe takes you to part one of this series for example that's a good one to have or that'll take you to you know other things like this

that I've done those are good things to have but I'll often see them just full screen crazy shit tricking you into clicking the screen and like redirecting you to websites and stuff. That's a real mistake because you can look in the analytics and you can see the click-through rate of those. Even on my stuff,

it's 3%. I bet that's high comparatively to most stuff. Although, I will say one of my biggest recurring complaints about YouTube is that I have the same end plate that I've had for a year and a half. But I have to make those annotations every goddamn video.

There's no way to save that and then re-import the next time. And we put out two videos a week so that you're talking about 100 videos a year and it is honestly, I don't want to count the number of minutes I've wasted putting together freaking annotations. Jeremy, I have't want to count the number of minutes I've wasted putting together freaking annotations.

Jeremy, I have the same petty complaint, right? Now, Painkiller already, I'm looking at it. We have five sponsors today, and then there'll be two more with the Patreon and our merch. So that's seven annotations I have to make. Every time I make these seven annotations, I simultaneously think, oh my god, this is such a pain in the ass, and oh my god, you pansy, you complain about anything, don't you? I think I've found some shortcuts, although I'll have a real hard time explaining them.

If we were all sitting around a laptop, I'd be like, hey, if you do it like this, it's a little quicker, right? But yeah, it's an annoying process, and it's not slick and smooth and easy to use or anything. In my case, I often have to extend the annotation to be four hours long. Like you said, you can go to the hour and press up instead of whatever. I mean, it's clearly a first world problem.

Yes, it is a first world problem. People with real problems don't worry about having too many sponsors at the end of their web show. First world don't have these problems. They're worried about not having shoes or getting dysentery jeremy is this the case so i feel like asking for likes even though i do it for fun uh is old school and comments and stuff like that it's all about view time now right isn't that what gets your video promoted? Like, above all else, it's them watching to the end?

Well, I mean, I think, hmm, I think completion, like percentage of video completed and then total minutes watched has become the two more important metrics for us. Now, we didn't start expanding. When we started, our videos were all three or four minutes long, and that was because we were obsessed with, we we didn't think the attention span was there like I remember Chris sending me edits for videos that were seven minutes long and me replying going can you do anything to

get it down to five you're gonna say pacing you were obsessed with pera and then we would a couple experiments showed us that our viewers, at least, would hang on for 10, 15, 20 goddamn minutes. Then we started expanding our horizons in terms of what we wanted to do. But on the back end, analytics-wise, it just happened to happily coincide with the fact that YouTube seemed to shift towards minutes watched and completion percentage of the video. And thankfully, our fans like to watch most of our videos all the way through to the end. And I'm sorry about that beeping because I have a friend who obsessively texts me. I'm going to turn my phone off right now. So you mentioned the merchandise a minute ago, Woody.

I just wanted to say, last week we told you guys that our PK knives were going to be available actually the following day or something like that. They're all fucking gone. You guys snatched those things up. In five hours they sold out. Oh, I thought you meant they somehow got lost. Yeah, they were all stolen from my house.

Nobody's getting them back. No, that's not what he means. They're all gone. That's awesome. They all sold out, got rid of all those fucking knives. There will be no more knives for you people. You missed out. You missed your chance. You should have been Patreons. What can I say? That's not true. We're going to do some other stuff.

I think maybe some people were bummed that they didn't get an opportunity maybe to get at them because they don't listen to the show maybe as early as some others or bummed that they didn't get an opportunity, maybe, to get at them because they don't listen to the show maybe as early as some others or something like that, but we're going to do other things. Try that. Follow me on Twitter would have helped you. That would have done the trick, too. Woody's Gamertag's Twitter's been in the description of this video

since 2010. Your lazy ass hadn't been able to bother himself to do it. You follow Donald Trump, you can't follow Woody's Gamertag? I won't help you with my Twitter, but you should still follow it. There you go. No helpful tips there. I don't know if you guys are paying attention,

but this hockey game is not going very well for me right now. It's not going well for Nashville right now. Looks like Pavelski got a goal. Yeah, it's two nothing sharks right now in the first. What did I tell you? Would I text you Chiz? i can't talk to you i have a question as a hockey novice was where was hockey invented is it canada

sure it was is that where the first hockey was played like i don't know man i guess that are like similar to hockey but i think the first time they did it on ice was in canada i'm american man i grew up learning about James Naismith and the peach baskets and inventing basketball. I don't know shit about hockey. Neither does Chris. Well, yeah, that's what was invented. I assume Canada. Okay.

I was curious. I thought it was Canada too, but I was like, did Russia have something to do with that? Is this maybe a Russian sport and a Canadian sport that got combined together because they both seem to have such a love for it? It could be. I mean, Russia's cold as fuck. And you need frozen lakes for this

or frozen ponds. Did you see the footage of Putin playing in that hockey game? Oh my god. Yes, I have. I have seen it. It's been a while though, right? Can you go to Reddit hockey? I think this is new. This is a new one. Let me try and find it here.

But there's Putin playing. And I can't tell if this is just like one of those, you know, retired guy games just for fun people watching. Or if he's playing a game and all of these good players are slowing down to his speed. Like, it's really funny. I've got to find this. I watched him play once. And I remember thinking that for a guy his age, and he's a politician,

that he was good on the skates. Of course, I fall all the time and need guidance when I'm on skates. But I was impressed by that. I thought that was pretty good. What do you got here? Who plays an exhibition game?

Man, you guys are schooling my ass on like live in show production like the links and the chat and all the help you guys are sending each other on this on this thing on the sidebar like blowing my mind fucking machine around here

we're gonna watch this video together it's amazing. Jeremy, put that video on. Get past an ad if you have one. And then pause it at zero. Hit this Putin video and pause it at zero? Yes, please.

Pause it on the Putin. I'm going to count down. I'm going to say ready, set, play. On play, we all hit play. Ready, set, play. Putin! Putin! ready set play on play we all hit play ready set play very interesting clapping style in russia that's uh one of the three approved ways i'm getting right now oh wow wow. Oh, this is not oh Shit that's not a holly's family was watching that game

He can't skate at all yeah, he's terrible he's worse than me, and I've never been on ice skates once. I had a... I feel like I've seen this guy play before, and I was impressed with it. Not because I know anything about hockey, but just because it looked like he was moving well. You know what I mean? He looked athletic. Alright, that's the end of the footage. Not so much in this footage. Dude, I...

That's a little embarrassing. I played hockey at a very low level right we're talking about adult men in the south and we would school that team we would beat the like we would just smack them around like they were children with down syndrome or something like i feel like you could knock two or three of those players down while scoring. They were just barely moving. It reminded me of peewee hockey when I've seen that, and they're all nudiscating. There's no way those players are that bad, though.

They just got on there, and the coach was giving a little pep talk, like, now we all slow down because Putin will be out there. Yeah, it was like the All-Star game. Your families will be killed. I'm sure there are decent hockey players, but he is not. But you can afford... That must be so great

to be able to go out and suck at whatever you want and everyone has to applaud. Oh my God, if I were a dictator, the thing I'm worst at in this world is drawing and art. I tried when I was younger because I had a couple of friends who are really good at art and i sucked dick at it and i it made me live it because i just can't draw anything good but i would make billionaires in

my country purchase my art for obscene prices obscene it would be non it'd be color by number done poorly and they'd have to shell out $30 million worth. Anyway. So 2-0, San Jose on the power play. How are you feeling right now, Jeremy? Pretty messed up, man. I'm frustrated. Have you considered drinking? Although, last game

we were down 2-0 and came back. So it's not dire yet. And I believe in this team. It's only one period. But I wish it would have gone differently. Yeah. I'd rather be ahead than be out. So politics has been crazy lately.

So just in fast forward, I'm not sure what I covered, what we talked about last week's PK. But wow, Trump, everybody has dropped out of it except for Trump. Trump's going to be, is the nominee. Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House, did not immediately get behind Trump last week. He was like, ah, I don't really know. So Trump had a big meeting with him as well as lots of congressmen today. Both of them came out of the meeting saying it went well, which is what I expected. I didn't expect them to come out of the meeting and go, yeah, we're friends now. Yeah, we're

all good. Paul's going to come over to Trump Tower. We're going to play. That wasn't going to happen. I felt like they handled it well. And I feel like what they're doing is, I feel like they got in the room and they were like, look, we actually do have to unify this thing. I don't like you so much and you don't like me so much. Or maybe I don't like your policy and you don't like my policy. But we both hate Hillary Clinton and we've got to kind of forge around that hate together.

So let's come out next week and say, you know what? We really thought about this and we that hate together. So let's come out next week and say, you know what? We really thought about this, and we can work together. That way it looks real. It looks like you actually did something rather than you're just coming in and going, yeah, we're friends now. Yeah. Beat Hillary.

So I like what happened today, what I saw out of Trump. Trump doesn't make too many missteps. Trump's going to be the next president of the United States. I wish I was there for that negotiation. No. Yeah. No. No. I wish I was there for that negotiation. Yeah.

No. No. I don't know who's next. I will gladly spend the next hour going back and forth with yeses and nos. Yeses and nos. Although, I mean, I am speaking 50% from perspective of someone who does not want Trump and 50% perspective from someone who has seen the polling numbers. Hillary polls higher than

Trump in every state that matters in the presidential election. One point? So many months out? In one or two states, it's one point. In the three where it matters. Ohio, Florida, and, uh, yeah. He's within two or three points in those three battleground states, the purple states.

He's gonna win all the red states. Well, okay, I don't know anything about your politics, and I don't really care, ultimately. I'm not even going to cast a vote, so if you want some controversy, there it is. But, that being said, are you arguing for the sake of chaos,

or do you really like Trump? I don't really like Trump, but I really hate Clinton. I feel like Clinton is going to make gun control her banner fucking thing, just like Obama made health care his thing. I can't have that. It's absolutely awful. For one thing, she wants to hold firearms companies liable for when some maniac goes and does something awful with a gun. You wouldn't hear anybody saying that about Ford Motor Company.

You just want to make it comparable. It's Axe companies that hurt children's feet. What's that? I said it's Axe Companies that hurt children's feet. Axe Companies, yeah. And I said that Trump wants to keep out all Muslims and build a fucking wall. I did that.

Aren't they both terrible candidates? No, they're not. Trump is a great candidate. So he didn't say he wants to keep out all Muslims. He said he wanted to put a temporary ban on any Muslims coming into the country until you can verify who and where they're coming from, which makes a lot of sense to me. I don't want random people coming here.

If there's someone who's a good, hardworking person who can give to our American way of life and be part of it, more power to them. Let's get them over here. It shouldn't just be Muslims, though. It should be everyone who has to do that. It should be anyone. This podcast is about to get hardcore, man. And I feel like that wall is a great idea.

Trump is a better candidate than Hillary. But he's not great. He's not great. He's not a great candidate. I'm sorry, Taylor. Kyle, you want the country's wall? You need a fishing license to fish in this country, but for some reason you can walk right across the border with no paperwork. Why is there not a wall in Canada then, too?

Is that true? Because we don't want to go up there to their maple fucking smelling asses. That's fucking... I don't think they're just... Canada doesn't need a wall for the same reason Canada doesn't need a real military, because they got us here. We kind of handle that for them. Nobody from here is wanting to go up there, unless Trump gets elected.

If I'm a terrorist right now and I want to commit an attack on America, I'm going to Canada and I'm slipping through the border. Well, unfortunately, the terrorists work for a group called ISIS and not CinemaSins, and ISIS has said that what they want to do is come through Mexico. So while the CinemaSins apocalypse will probably come through the Northwest Corridor, ISIS is coming from the South. Listen, there are plenty of people who think we are worse than the ISIS terrorists. I agree completely.

And in general, you are awesome. I just think the wall and the Muslim ban are both terrible ideas, and the hate of Hillary cannot put unearned shine on trump that's just to play devil's advocate you are aware that obama put a ban on iraqis right well he said look you know we got it's a minority. He has carte blanche to do it every once. And Iraq is nowhere near Syria. And, um, shit, who else did it?

Was it Bush Sr. who did it, too? And no one blinked an eye. Oh, I'm sorry. No, Carter. Carter put a ban on Iranians and something else. Yes, he did. They're all wrong. They're all racist bastards.

Yeah, I don't think that they should do this. It should not be a race thing or an ethnicity thing. All it should be, like, everyone would be on board if they were like, hey, you know, illegal immigration is a problem in this country. We need to step up making sure, like, that we're checking people's papers or whatnot when they're coming into the country.

Like, just not for Muslims. We do that, though, right? Just do it to everyone. I don't know how you enforce a Muslim one, because I don't think anyone registers as Muslim. That is racist. could do it well it's not a race but it's religious you know what i mean xenophobic um but i is that even i don't know but uh i feel like i can say hey look iraqis can't enter because everyone's sort of a registered iraqi common sense that's what they call that but i don't think you could say like muslims can't come

in because like i could be in filipino and just be like oh yeah i'm christian dude and what do you know some husband and wife in iraq who have no government or political inclination whatsoever and just don't want to get bombed the fuck to death you're gonna keep them out just because they're iraqi why should they come here why don't they go to the United Arab Emirates, an incredibly wealthy Arab country, much closer? Because our country was founded on the principle of being a goddamn melting pot, right? Like, we are open to refugees. Like, that's the point. Not anymore.

Like, Ellis Island days are over. Like, bring me your sick, your poor, your tattered masses or whatever. Ever since Will Smith went there and hitched, Ellis Island is over. Bring me your sick, your poor, your tattered masses. Ever since Will Smith went there and itched, Ellis Island is over. Nowadays, we're like, bring us your ITT graduates. Bring us your engineers. Bring us your STEM graduates. Keep the Stone Age

people wake up. And bring us your NHL all-stars. Man, I really thought we were going to debate pop culture, and here we are earnestly arguing politics. I love it. It's just the immigration thing. I feel like you've got a lot of bad people coming out of Syria. Sure.

Maybe some good ones too. Sure, but the good ones... Look at the attacks in Brussels. Look at the attacks in Germany. Look at places like Cologne where you've got so many sexual assaults by these North African men, these Syrian men, these refugees who are coming from that region of the world going these european countries and they don't have the same views about the way about treating women with respect that we do so much so that they're getting raping them constantly read about a different

gang rape rate everyday by refugees in one of these european countries everyday i read about least one i would still it's not like the other drug and alien rapes like now it's like five hours of rape by 11 individuals, and then they raped her daughters while she walked. I understand that, that that happens, but I don't think you can say because people are bad,

we let in no new people. Like, there's still refugees that legit are starving, and they need somebody to help them. There are veterans on the streets of Los Angeles who are legit starving right now. I think we should help them out. I passed by three of them on the way to the studio right here legit starving right now. I think we should help them out. I passed by three of them on the way to the studio right here that I'm sitting in that's so lovely and nice.

Those guys needed some help. They're Americans. They fought for Americans. They need a leg up. They need a helping hand. How many views and likes do they have? You didn't stop and help them. I love you. I couldn't.

It's an Uber. It doesn't work that way. He was on Cindy's timeline. It doesn't work that way. He was on Sidney's timeline. I would rather let in one legit starving needy refugee along with potential threats. No, no, no, no, no, no. Next question. I get to take this.

Can they move into your apartment building? All of them. So, alright, we got a big bag of M&M's here, right? There's a hundred in there it's family size they're peanut if that matters all right one of them is poisonous do you even think about eating one of those m&ms you wouldn't that is terrible analogy you just did the exact same thing you said hey i don't care if there's like 99 people that might be into some terror i didn't start i said i would rather help one person if it includes the risk of letting in bad people then took away all people i think it

almost sounded like you said so long as one m&m is not poison you'll take the bag like hey i know there's a risk but if there's one good M&M in there, we need to roll the dice. I feel like it's being treated as a zero-sum game, and that's really simple. Like, it's not let a hundred, like, there's going to be nefarious people coming in

if you don't uphold some sort of standard for people coming from this part of the world. It just will. It's a fact. Some people who are evil are getting into this goddamn country. The point is, you are making a decision to not help anyone. And that just turns me off. No, no, no, not to help anyone.

I just think that, like, when you're letting people in, there should be a more stringent, like, okay, so you're from Syria. We're so sorry that you're going through this. Yeah, let us help you this way. It doesn't have to be a carte blanche, everybody in

kind of decision there's a so much middle ground there but you only ever hear we gotta let them all in because even if there's a few good ones it's worth the risk well that's what i have arguments for a lot of arguments against or people say we have to not let anyone in i i think that's what i don't have to social services to those people that we bring here did did let's say we bring a one hundred thousand Syrian refugees. Are they all rubber-stamped

Americans? Now they get free health care. Does everything just come to them now? Are they part of our system? They get to go to our public schools? Just like Taylor was saying, there's a middle ground there. You don't have to give them complete carte blanche, but you can still help them out. I think there's something fundamentally

morally good about the principle of the melting pot of the U.S., and I think we're moving away from that as we fear terrorists. You don't know what a melting pot is, though. A melting pot is when we all come in and take the best parts of each other and make America stronger, and we all become Americans. America is the pot. It melts the people, and they become Americans. It's not the other way around. You don't jump in the American pot and say, hey, I'm Syrian. Now everybody's a little Syrian. You're American, now you're a little American. No, no, Jeremy.

I don't think that necessarily means bad apple. I think that it means that you don't admit people in such large numbers that we go from melting pot to salad bowl. I've used this analogy on the show before, but that's the thing that I don't like. If we were to hypothetically bring in 15,000 Syrians and they all live relatively close to each other in Indiana, then Indiana would have a little piece of Syria in it. This would be Syria town.

I do not agree with that. It happens time and time again. These refugees here in Nashville who have fled Africa because of apartheid and all kinds of potential death. And yeah, if there's one bad apple among them, I'm still happy I helped the 12 guys I got to know. But wait, it's not even about them being bad. It's about them, you know, adding to our culture and probably like nine parts received from our culture and one part added. It's an issue of assimilation. Historically,

you know, the melting pot idea is, Hey, you come in here, you assimilate with our kind of values here. Of course, you know, like here in St.

Louis, there's a big population of Italians. If you go to the hill, you can tell that it's Italian. Like there's way more Italian looking people there, but they're a part of the community. It's not just like they're speaking in Italian and they have their own set of rules and regulations

and beliefs and whatnot. Historically, Muslim groups don't assimilate as well and they tend to be in their own groups. It's kind of like, we'll use a hockey comparison. Vladimir Tarasenko, if we had another Russian on our team, wouldn't learn to speak English very quickly because they would be speaking Russian to each other in the locker room. The fact that he is forced to assimilate,

he's very quickly picking up English, and that's more beneficial because now everybody's communicating more easily. The cultural norm's there. It's more shared. I need a source on the Muslims don't assimilate as well as other cultures thing. That just feels like more of an opinion than an actual thing. Have you ever watched the

news? And I'm kind of with Jeremy. I wish there was a source, but I do feel like some cultures are more apt to assimilate than others. And oh gosh, I hope this doesn't come off as racist, but it's been my experience that people from Africa

seem to want to assimilate. They want to be Americans. They're proud. They demand that their children get great educations. They want to get the African off them as soon as possible and get some America up there. That is a good point. You made it bad. I didn't make it bad.

No, no. So there's a girl that's involved in speech and debate, and she tells this wonderful story of her father's high expectations and stuff. And it's really cool, and you're like, wow. And there's a YouTuber too whose dad is African, and he's always kind of like making fun of his father and the way that he interacts with him and stuff. And that's my impression of like African immigrants. They want to succeed and excel and learn the language and have great grammar and get good grades and do the things that we think highly of and then there are other cultures where like you know oh

god I have a hard time speaking with this I'm coming up of races I was gonna say Mexican right there's like a brown pride there's a Mexican flag there's a you know like um like I want to create a subculture here that is my old culture that i brought to you instead of like now i want to be american and what's wrong with that oh why can't they be both why can't they be mexican americans no see i'm really big on the melting pot thing i'd love them to be mexican americans in the same way that like irish americans italian americans all those other guys you know sort of mixed into the melting pot. But when they resist learning the language, when they resist like identifying

as like American Irish or like first, that hurts my feelings, I guess. I don't know why. I think the country's better. Just one last thing. Like Yugoslavia, right? During my lifetime, they had a big civil war and they broke up into three countries. And they all had their own sort of cultural identity, right? Like some of them were Muslim, some of them were Serbian, and some of them were Croatian, right? And they all had these like wars with each other and it turned out awful.

I think that when a nation is stronger when they have a better set of values and they share the language and they share their value system and that kind of thing if A culture comes in and says, you know what? We tend to keep our Like old-school value systems, maybe different thoughts about women that that doesn't match up with my thoughts Can I interject with a good example go on they they? thoughts about it. Can I interject with a good example? Go on. I keep reading about how a lot of the immigrants who have come into European countries like Germany have started their

own Sharia law little enforcement groups that say they've taken over a certain district of one of the cities I was reading about today on the plane. And they say it's theirs now. And they don't want any non-Syrians coming into that area. They keep beating up women that they find wearing short skirts and stuff

i i keep waiting for all the uh... the feminists out there to stand up and be like a i don't know about islam that's maybe not the best thing for us because the i mean i'm not an expert about about islam but i've seen a lot of what muslim men feel about women i had a lot of North African friends when I sold cars. There was a Moroccan guy, two Nigerians, two Somalians. I said Nigeria.

And there was another one. And they would tell me awful stories. My Russian friend literally told me about raping women, okay? Like he told me that sort of laughing. I wouldn't say it was rape. It was more like really taking advantage of a very drunk woman. And I was disgusted by that until I spoke to my Moroccan friend and he explained to me that if you see a good looking woman, you just walk up to her and take her.

Do whatever you want. You grab her breast, like feel her up, and he says, she screams, she says, no, no, no. And you say, you better do what I say or I'll tell your brother you're a whore. And then she'd do what you say. And it's like, well, what the fuck? That's Morocco? That's one of the most forward-facing of the Middle Eastern Arab countries. And that shit goes on in the U.S. military over there all the time. They're all rapes constantly. We're not talking about that.

We're talking about immigration. Real quick to interject. There is a – and I'm trying to be real middle-of- of the road here because I see two sides battling at it. But there is a huge difference between a cultural accepted norm, for example, like an Islam. And then not all Muslims practice this, obviously. So that I preface this, you know, most people, everybody knows this. But, you know, there's an accepted belief there that, hey, if a woman is raped, you know, you can be killed. You can be executed for being raped

that's horrific if a woman is raped and she wants to come forward about it it's the man's word versus the woman's word and you have to get like multiple women to equal up to a man's word and it's like it's set up to to to discriminate against women to be or to be bad to women it's not fair so you shouldn't accept their refugees? Because the home country is sexist? No, no, that was an argument to the point of your comparison between... Maybe they're escaping that bullshit! They're trying to avoid being raped

by moving to America. God damn! But wait, what if they're just single women? We could take them in. Hold on, real quick, real quick. Let me get in. So, I was talking about the comparison you made to the U.S. military. I'm saying that there's a difference between it being tacitly accepted in certain areas, and if it does happen in the U.S. military, and it does, it's seen as a bad thing.

Nobody looks at that and goes, well, you know, rape in this situation, let's look at all the angles. It's like, no, that's disgusting and evil. Like, no one is making excuses evil like no one is no one is making excuse or no one with any repute is making excuses for those people is my point that i was just talking about the comparison i agree i just i'm saying my point is just because they legalize it and we do it illegally doesn't make us any different it does it does it does absolutely uh it means that for them that it's's gonna be much more common if it's and there are areas specifically built into the law

to lie to get away with it and the religion supports it not more than every single muslim country or we just talking about specific muslim let's go in ninety percent i i feel like that's a fair ninety percent we're going to research this after to find out that math is that i feel like i think it's very interesting to their widely regarded percent% of Muslim countries are okay with rape. Oh, yeah. So, Jeremy, here's the thing.

Let me jump in. I've been waiting. I guarantee it. I guarantee that if you poll 90% of these countries, you'll get more men will say than don't say that if a woman is dressing, is scantily clad, she's out by herself, it's dark, then, yeah, it's perfectly okay to assault her.

I mean, I really don't think anyone is qualified to talk about this bullshit. Oh, that doesn't stop us. You guys are making some pretty... No, no, no, that doesn't stop us at all. That is even slowest down, Jeremy. We do. So I have...

Qualifications speak for themselves. I've got somebody in my extended circle who is Muslim, and he is very homophobic, right? And he's like, you know, it's not that I'm scared of them, I just like, I don't, I would never want them to be like hitting on me, you know? Like one dude of millions, right? Anecdotal, I'll grant you that. I don't know any more. But there are lots of homophobic

Christians, too, but they're not all homophobic. I hear you, but yes, but they don't normally like, start, look, the Christians have had, look, I'm not aian i i'll say that i think that uh i think that you're looking at an inherently different situation though if you compare the quran to the even just the old testament like i mean just if you start if you do like a keyword search like you'll just find a lot more violence and a lot more hey if they do

this cut their head off if you do that cut their head off in the in the quran then you will in the bible but on that there is that in the bible as then you will in the Bible. But on that note... Well, there is that in the Bible as well, but it's just a matter of what groups are still following that. But are we judging modern religions on what, like, hundreds... You think modern Islam is a modern religion, though? It seems pretty old school to me. Well, I'm just saying, if you're going to judge Islam this way, you need to judge Christianity

this way. I do. Christianity is a terrible thing. We should outlaw that, too. We shouldn't be allowing any more Christians to come into this way, you need to judge Christianity this way. I do. We should outlaw that, too. We shouldn't be allowing any more Christians to come into this country, either. Keep them out, too. Well, okay. Now you have completely—I was five minutes away from just saying I loved you guys, you're all awesome, and killing this podcast, and now I have to shake your hand because you're not wrong there.

I just wish you had said that earlier so we hadn't argued for 30 minutes. There's lots of groups I don't like. You're going to find that out about me. I mean, I'm more in favor of a keep everyone out of America ban than I am a keep Muslims out of America ban. Yes. Look, the way I feel about that is honestly this. I feel like

America is the best team in the NFL, right? I feel like that's what we do. We are. Someone tell me who the best team is, if it's not us. Who's best at fucking playing football? I'm not talking about football. I'm metaphorically speaking.

The world is the NFL. We're the best. We're the best of the best. You tell me who's better. Tell me whose defense or offense is better than us. Whose special teams is better. Somebody's going to say China, but carry on. Don't even get started.

Oh, they just got a big roster. That's all. They have a very deep roster, yeah. A lot of depth on deep China. The only people we should be bringing in here, we should treat this country like it's an NFL team. Don't be bringing in a bunch of fifth, sixth round draft picks. You bring me fucking...

We should have the best picks. We should be able to make the best trade deals. Get those guys who excel at STEM. Yeah, I agree in principle. It's just that I'm related to people who are scrubs that would never be led on to the team. And I can't. Look, I am too.

We all are. The world needs ditch diggers too. The world needs ditch diggers too. And there's nothing wrong with a menial labor job, a physical job. There are so many people working white-collar jobs that hate it day in and day out and literally blow their brains out, literally blow their brains out literally commit suicide because they hate their jobs so much and then there's some cowboy out there busting his ass with calluses on his hands goes to sleep every night like a baby because he loves what he's doing there's nothing wrong with that but i don't want

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Thank you. You know what? We don't need any more ad readers coming into the country haha got that cover you got that cornered wait is Jeremy here? this is when the predators start their comeback right here right now well if it's not here it's not happening Jeremy how come you not in front of your camera but your camera finally came back oh you see him? Yeah, I see him. He's right there.

I just see his camera by itself. I just see his mic sitting there. He's in the same place the entire time. It'll work itself out somehow. Yeah, I can see him fine. Oh, God, I didn't think about this before the fucking series when I was telling Chiz that I didn't care who won that much, but God, I want Nashville to win now,

or I'm going to be watching games starting at 10pm. Well, if they're going to win, they need to do something big soon. They need a goal before the end of this period. I agree with that. I would appreciate two goals before the end of this period. That is a better plan than mine,

which was just one goal. Come on, James Neal. Oh, he's bigger than one! Oh, so has anyone seen 60 Days In? Is that what it's called? Someone help me with that. No, I haven't heard of it. Shucks. I just need a few seconds.

Is it a show? Is it a documentary? 60 Days In. Okay, I have it right. All right, it's a show on A&E. You can watch it on their website for free. They just allow you to stream it off their website. And basically these people, innocent people,

agree to be locked up in jail for 60 days. Because they're stupid. No, well, they get paid. So there was a sheriff who was like, he was bad, he was corrupt. I think the sheriff himself got convicted of something or other. I forget the details. And a new sheriff was voted in and he's cleaning it up. And apparently he's made a lot of good progress.

But one of the things he does to clean it up is he has this program where regular people, like Marines, people who want to be police officers someday, teachers, social workers, who want to be police officers someday, teachers, social workers, they go to the jail and they literally just exist as inmates for 60 days. What's the pay? They don't tell us. All right, so that's a good question.

Please continue if you have more to cover. I've got a little more. It's good. So what it is, is it seems like... Oh, and no one knows that they're people aside from the sheriff and the captain. And the cameraman. So the other prisoners think they're regular prisoners.

Exactly. How do they keep someone from getting shivved? Most of the prison guards think they're regular prisoners. Some don't. That sounds insane. This is nonsense. Why would you sign up for this? It's scary. Now, insane. This is nonsense. Why would you sign up for this? It's scary.

Now, they have some, like, escape plans. Like, if you think that things are starting to boil over, you can say, like, oh, I really miss hot coffee. And that, like, sounds the alarms. People are like, holy shit. Usually in prison, there's a very slow build, like a roller coaster, up to where it gets out of control. You know? There kind of is, actually. I don't know. I've never been. I i haven't been either but i've watched the show and you can see like other

prisoners are talking about you and they're like you do that guy's fucked up i don't believe him anymore you know like like you can see that you're growing unpopular and uh um you know you can say that and then i think she's joining the conversation but the towel around your neck if you walk with the towel around there was like a thing they were supposed to do I don't know if it was this or what the scoop was but if you put maybe a towel over your head but if you walk around like that on camera

that's another way of signaling that you want out that you're afraid this better be a ton of money that they're making I don't think it is man, this could so quickly just turn into the most traumatic thing and just ruin your life just getting gang raped or something or just a shit kick daddy and stabbing the whole way brush yeah like yeah this is such a high risk for one of the guys a fear factor level reward some of

the people are doing terrible there's one one guy, he's a teacher. And he's like, look, I work two jobs. I want to be like, fuck off. Like one of them is a summer job. Don't act like you work two jobs, you dick. Yeah. And. You should just say, I do two different things.

Right. Yeah. You get all summer off. Stop it. When my one job stops, I start another. I don't even take the whole summer off. It's the hardest thing anyway I'm getting off track the least like I work your jobs I can't wait to get into

prison I'm just gonna lay down I'm gonna he kept talking about stretching his toes apparently this guy's toes are in dire need of stretching because he mentioned it at least six times I was to lay down and stretch his toes and how it was no problem for him whatsoever and then he gets in there and he just immediately doesn't jive with the other prisoners and if you're like me

at all you watch the whole thing wondering how you would do like how would you fit in? Was he going to put like a red sharpie on the stall walls and correcting graffiti and telling people? He just like crying like the fat man on Shawshank on the first night. That's me. They roll in there with this mat, right?

So you walk in with a mat and you sort of unroll it onto a bunk. And he didn't get a bunk. He just sort of got a spot on the floor. And he lays out on the floor. He puts his feet on um i don't know in my high school we had these cafeteria tables that kind of folded up and uh he puts his feet on like the chair portion of a cafeteria table and uh and he's like oh this is great like your life is so much harder than being a prisoner and uh all the prisoners are like what what the fuck is with this guy? They all think he's a cop.

So the thing about the way he holds himself doesn't... It makes him not belong there. You can't just hang out in prison acting like you know you're out of this in 20 days. Like, oh, you rubes are in here. Oh, you actually killed someone? Well, I'm going to make 30 grand. There's two attitudes that you have in prison.

One is downtrodden and depressed. You should be just like fucking... Just looking at the ground and just fucking lots of shaking your head and It when someone looks at you you visually look like you're thinking back about what you did and go fucking stupid You should have known better fucking cameras. Everyone has cameras and then there's like a hard-ass guy Who's like this isn't my first time in I've been here that that's my old CL over there I raped three guys in there. You know, I think I would... Oh, the confident rapist.

I'm just saying. I would not like this. I don't deal with discomfort well. I mean, these B&Bs that are a little below my standards irk me, you know. I was thinking among my friends how different people would do. I think I'd do very poorly. People, like Chiz was like, Woody's got that MMA training do. I think I'd do very poorly.

People like Chiz was like, Woody's got that MMA training. I'm not sure how far that goes. You know, one, some of these fellows are very large, and that's an issue. Some of them are very large while simultaneously being very young and very strong, right? That's a tough nut to crack. And they all have more friends than you. And that's the other thing. So I used to train, and there were these prison guards. And you guys have heard the stories.

And that's the other thing. So I used to train and there were these prison guards. And you guys have heard the stories. But one of the takeaways I had is it's not like they set up very many 1v1 fair fights in an open area with mats. That's not how this goes down. It's surprise attack, punches in the back of the head. A lock and a sock was the thing that they pointed out all the time. Ah, remember I told you that about that years ago with my Uncle Terry's story about how he talked about the lock in the sock Okay, yeah, dude. I swear the prison said the same thing

It was it was like a real fuck So and 25 right now, so you don't open your ass and let me give you a fuck so Let's assume that any training i've had is completely worthless and then like after that it's just it's about getting along and fitting in and i was thinking to myself although i'm starting to roll back on that a bit i'm like kyle's really good at fitting in everywhere like you see him in boston and he fits in fine amongst all those city folk you see him in georgia and he fits in fine amongst all those city folk. You see him in Georgia and he fits in all those fine amongst the the hickiest of hicks.

And Kyle will just, you know, slow it down, perfect fit. And I'm like, there's no reason to think that he can't do felon just as well as he's done everything else. Black people like me. And I don't think I'm taking too big of a step to say that it's probably going to be a large

population of black people in jail So I think I'd be okay as far as that I don't think I'd get any trouble big Aryan guy is gonna think you're real cute right off the bat You know there's gonna be some six eight guy with this is a federal penitentiary. This is gonna come over in County lockup. Oh Okay, he's right about that. It's good I really built this up into something that so this guy's just really hanging out in a room with everybody who got too drunk walking around the city it's my understanding that the federal stuff is not as bad that it's

tightly regulated and they kind of have their act together and it's jail that's loosely regulated and ugly stuff happens i didn't know well i don't know if it i think it would go two different ways either one i make some friends and i'm able to like i had that little spark during a conversation that i'm imaginarily having with some scary guys and i make them laugh if i can ever get on their good side and be like yeah that's funny yeah funny white boy over there he's great yeah he tells me all kind of stories like if i would act that guy, if I could be your dancing monkey for 60 days and I make you guys laugh, some real knee slappers,

that'd be great. But I feel like if I go in there and I'm like, hey man, what's up? And he's just like... But that's it for him? That's all I had to say to piss him off? He's like, why are you talking to me? You trying to fuck me?

You trying to get one over on me? And I'm like, oh shit, I picked Crazy Pete. I picked Crazy Pete. He's the one I try to warm warm up to he's the fucking maniac over there in the corner like whittling his his toothbrush into a stabbing weapon that's the guy i picked up for friend but i think if you make friends you're good if you don't you're not right that's how life is dude i would just i feel like at one point i'd tell someone he has to consider the context in which that was said and they'd be like you know you talk like a bitch yeah you know and and i would just be done yeah yeah you'd have to either have to

be like really funny and hope that they appreciate your high stakes stand-up or you know hey you better really knock them dead out there break a leg you know make them laugh or you're gonna get raped what if you just walk out or you have to act totally crazy. Like, just randomly, as soon as you walk in, just, like, sit in the corner and don't move. Like, you have to really commit to this. Just, like, sit in the corner and just look at it for, like, five hours, randomly laughing, just bursting out. Like, that might be a good approach because then they might...

Or you loudly announce your HIV. Loudly. You know, Or Hep C. God, this Hep C is really bad. Where do we get our HIV medicine? I'm starting to feel faint. The guy looks at you like, he's retarded and he's got AIDS.

Let's not fuck with that guy. Worst thing we could do is hit him. A retarded woman came in. Yeah, yeah. How'd you get AIDS? Last time I was in here. A woman comes in and she's not... I got nothing to lose.

That's a good sling blade impression. Yeah, they do it constantly. I like mustard on my biscuits. Close enough. This is the fucking Sling Blade. I wish I could deliver an electric shock every time you guys did your cut to Sling Blade. You'd really hate it.

It's the worst and the movie's not even that good. The movie's great. Jeremy, please help me out here. Oh God, we have sex. How do I help you? Is Sling Blade a great movie or just a normal average movie? I didn't say not any good. I said not that good. Yeah, I'm sort of on your side there, Woody.

I mean, I think it was great, but overly praised. Well, hang on. Was it great or was it overly praised? I'm widely regarded for my movie critiques and TV show critiques around here. I'm top dog. Yeah, okay. Well, I'm willing to believe that, and especially because I agree with you in this point, and consider myself a top dog

movie TV reviewer. It's fantastic. It's a vehicle for Billy Bob Thornton, and that's really all it is. You didn't think John River's performance was very strong? No, in fact, they almost named John Ritter as well. I thought he was fantastic. But it's an acting piece. The performances hold up better than the overall film does. I think that's because you're not from the South.

There's so many... So they really hit the nail on the head with a lot of the likes. It's been in Nashville for like 20 years. What does it mean when the guy types bump a hundred times over here in the chat? What the fuck is going on with that shit? That's so that if we actually share this screen with our viewers at any point that anything that's written in that chat won't

be shared with them. It becomes private. Yeah, sometimes there's personal information there, credit card information, addresses, etc. He's just trying to move the chat up further. I'm a real big fan of that. There was nothing even particularly private. I'm sorry to cut you off, further. I'm a real big fan of that. There was nothing even particularly private. I'm sorry to cut you off, Kyle. I just do it a lot.

I think that Billy Bob Thornton did a better job than Tom Hanks did playing a mentally handicapped man. I agree with you. I love Forrest Gump. I think it's one of the best movies ever. Well, I don't know if it's one of the best movies ever. I love Forrest Gump, but I don't think it's one of the best movies ever. I immediately took that back, yeah. Forrest Gump, but I don't think it's one of the best movies ever. I immediately took that back, yeah.

Forrest Gump is overrated. Absolutely. I really enjoy that movie. And sometimes over time, I forget how much I liked it. And I'll catch it again and be like, you know what? Yeah, it's got a vibe to it. A hope. I think you can enjoy the hell out of that movie without giving it more credence than it deserves.

I mean, Jesus, it's a good movie. It's not like The Godfather. No, it's not like The Godfather. That's a good question. Did you see the thing HBO, I think HBO did, where they combined The Godfather into one? Yeah, I was watching that today. That's really good, or at least I thought

it was. I mean, I would rather watch it chronologically, and I'm not always that way. For instance, with Deadpool, I've really appreciated the way they shot and showed you the flashbacks out of order. I thought that really supported the current story they were trying to tell. I think flashbacks can be crucial. But, man, I got such a kick out of The Godfather in chronological edit. I don't know if I can ever watch it any other way.

People have said, oh, but it ruins this about the film. It ruins that about the film. I'm like, no. It makes this film very easy to get your head wrapped around what's going and where the story's going. Then, now that you're not thinking all the time and trying to do math equations to figure out who's who and why

people are doing what they're doing you're like you can appreciate the performances you can appreciate the uh the way those scenes are set up the camera work that there's so many cool i've watched a documentary i think of or at least some youtube videos about the godfather i'm a big fan i i like it a lot well i mean i think the first two movies are great but i would rather watch them chronologically than the way they were originally released. Agreed. Because I feel like it gives me better understanding of what's going on, better character understanding of why they're doing what they're doing. Like, all the De Niro shit, I think, plays way better chronologically than it does in flashbacks.

So I think it's genius. I love it. So is this, like, one long, like, ten-hour movie or something with all three movies in there? It's eight hours long. So are they editing stuff out of the movie, too, to make it? No, they just... Is it just reorganizing it? Yeah, it's reorganizing the three movies into chronological flow.

That's literally all it is. I'll have to check that out, because that is annoying with The Godfather. Because you spend so much time trying to figure out what the fuck each mumbling Italian is saying that you don't actually follow it. Like, I care so much more about the old Godfather in the first movie, now that I have the understanding of the young Godfather

from the second movie. The first time I saw The Godfather, I was like, okay, he's the boss, whatever, whatever. But after having seen the second movie, the first movie makes much more sense. And so chronologically, I think it's a total no-brainer. Makes perfect sense. Yeah, I definitely agree.

Yeah, I really like that. I saw that come on HBO, and I think I heard Howard Stern talking about it, and I went home and watched it immediately. Well, you don't watch that immediately. I started watching that. How long is it? About four hours?

About half a Civ game. Half a Civ game? It's a full Civ game long. It's a full Civ game long. You need to break it up into four viewings unless you've got tons of free time. But I thought it was very good. It's an improvement over what was there before, I thought. Or at least a really good thing to watch.

If you've already seen the films in the way Coppola intended um then this is nice to see it this way now because i know the story i know the characters but now to see it this way i'm it it just felt new and fresh and nice i liked it yeah agreed i have an ama question sounds like we're at a pause. Oh, yeah. Who are your personal favorite creators to watch on YouTube if you get a chance to do so? Furthermore, what is your preferred genre to watch on YouTube if you're just looking for entertainment on the site? Love to know who, what you three watch, plus potential guests that even says that have as preferences.

So no bullshit, all bullshit aside, I watch all the CinemaSins. So no bullshit, all bullshit aside, I watch all the CinemaSins. I watch the ones about the movies I love, and even more often do I watch the ones about the movies I hate. You are very gracious to say so. I find that our tastes in movies are aligned pretty well. Usually when you say, it's very rare that you're like, eh, what the fuck is this? What is this going on here?

And I'm like, well, actually, that was a pretty good moment. I'm always like, yeah, what the fuck was that? God damn it, Peter Jackson. You don't watch your own movies? I'm with you. And so I really like your content and it is what I'm watching right now most regularly and loyally. But I also like

to get on and go deep into YouTube and find weird stuff. The Hydraulic Press guy has already gotten old to me, I think, if I'm being honest. I'm trying to think what else I watch. Man, Kyle, if I'm being honest, I used to write for realseo.com, a website that talks about news and tips and tricks for video marketing. This was before CinemaSins. I used to write articles that included your videos, man.

And to be on the other side of it now, where I'm sort of like you, like I'm a creator that has lots of fans, it's insane! And then I'm on your freaking podcast, it's even crazier. And then you find out I'm a bigot, and you're like, ah, man.

I'm just ignoring the Trump debate. But it's a YouTube channel that I always try and promote when I can. And I'd like to hear if you'd let me. And it's 1A4 Studio. They do 60 second hand drawn animation recaps of movies. drawn animation recaps of movies so the matrix in 60 seconds or the back to the future in 60 seconds or um star wars force awakens in 60 seconds i like and they have like sims like audio where the characters they draw are like they don't say real words they just kind of emote through noises and they're they only have like 90 000 subscribers it's criminal how undersubscribed

these guys are because their talent is out the ass and i just can't go one moment without mentioning them if you'll allow me i really think all you guys would enjoy them if they're as good as you say i guarantee they explode oh yeah it just happens like it how popular are on youtube has a lot to do with how many videos you make and how good they are yeah a lot of people want to discount all these successful people as like not actually doing a good thing but no man like making good videos and making them on a regular basis you'll explode yeah that consistency matters consistency matters a lot, I think. And I think you guys will all agree with that. I like how it should have ended.

I like anything about movies and film. I really like how it should have ended. I was watching someone's video the other day, and they were breaking down the science of how a scene in The Godfather was shot. Yeah, I saw that. They were talking about the scene where Michael's sister and her beau are asking for permission to marry.

And they talk about how that was framed and what it means and everything. And I liked that a lot because I had noticed that, but I certainly never thought about it. I knew that, wow, it's just Michael and her talking now. He just put his ass to that other guy like he wasn't even there but i i never like really dissected it the way that video did i like that a lot so i like anything about film anything that teaches me a little bit more about movies and lately it's a little embarrassing but i've been watching a lot of uh uh uh company of heroes tutorials so it can become better at this video game I've been obsessed with. Taylor, what about you? Favorite genre?

Not as specific as Kyle's. I like animals fighting each other. Animals fighting each other. I've seen every video on the internet of animals fighting each other. If you send me one within one second, I will tell you. I know exactly how this ends.

The grizzly bear ends up being a bitch and never actually throws a swipe. Challenge accepted. And that is like, it's like panning for gold looking for animal fighting videos on the internet because so many assholes will put like grizzly bear versus, you know, gorilla. And then it's just like

two bad pictures photoshopped together in a still shot and it's like some montage song behind it from 2002. And it's just like two bad pictures photoshopped together in a still shot and it's like some montage song behind it from 2002 and it's just fucking horrible but animals fighting is huge i watch a lot of hockey highlights and uh that really might might be it i like um yeah that's that's most of it i've watched a couple tutorial videos for a company of heroes but that's not one of my standard things. I'm trying to think of other genres. I like the film stuff too,

but I'm not nearly as into that as Kyle. Not nearly as much as a buff. Have you seen this UFC in Australia one? Yes, I have. It's two Koalas fighting. Gosh darn it, I thought i'd get a new one and they're not even i think they're playfully wrestling i think they're fighting koalas are mean so koalas are always eating that eucalyptus and those eucalyptus leaves like like get them

high they're they're all so if you ever see a koala in the wild he is fucked up he is so high right now because they are always high and they get angry and they got, like you think of koalas, it's like oh look at this fucking natural life teddy bear. No, they got really serious claws and teeth and stuff. They'll fuck you up. So yeah when they fight, they're all high wrestling on the ground but they mean it. It's like

a mean house cat. Like it's not gonna kill ya but if it's mad it can do some damage. You know? Like you you can underestimate it. But, yeah, they're all crazy. You want to go next? Your favorite genres? Who have you been watching lately? Aside from 1A4 Studio?

Are you talking to Jeremy? Yes, did I say it wrong? Jeremy got up. Oh, did he? On my screen. Woody, he's still there. Yeah, oh, you can see the same. Yeah, yeah, I see the same as you. Oh, that's so funny. I think I'm the only one with real-time Jeremy footage. Well, while he's gone, I feel like this is a good time to interject my Company of Heroes talk, because I don't want to bore him with that, because I don't even know if he likes video games.

I've been playing a lot of Company of Heroes. I can beat it on hard now. Really? Yeah. So you're really trending up fast. I haven't been able to play recently as much. I've been too busy, but you've been putting in the hours. I've been practicing a lot.

Now that I've got this laptop here that i'm doing this podcast through i'll uh i'll be like with my girlfriend like normally like my girlfriend i watch tv and hang out together and then if i want to go play i've got to go downstairs to my gaming pc and we're really separated and she doesn't like that if i'm doing it all day or all night or something like that but with this i can just kind of chill with her and put it in my lap and play and talk to her as I play and kind of teach her how to play as I go. And I've been playing lots of single player

against all the different opponents. The Americans really do suck, by the way. I can beat the Americans on normal difficulty with one hand tied behind my back. But if I switch it to Germans, it's like, oh shit, buckle in. The Germans really are just better. But I've definitely gotten better at the game

just learning unit composition and what units to build and how to control the map so are you building your own strategy from it or are you watching and kind of being like okay I see you start out with two platoons of this and then you make an anti-tank no I watch some of those videos

but with that game it seems like it's so situational and reactive and or preemptive that what someone else does might work, but never in your scenario. It's very situational. So one game, you might need to build four conscripts at the beginning of the game and just that. But another game, you need to immediately build that infantry campagna building or whatever and crank out a couple of MGs or something like that. But another game, you need to immediately build that infantry campagna building or whatever and crank out a couple of MGs or something like that. It just depends what the enemy is doing, who he's playing, and what

commanders he picks. The commanders are the way to go. I learned more about the commanders. That's basically like your class setup in Call of Duty. Before I was just like, I don't know, I'll pick the guy with the mustache. But now that I know a little more about it, those guys really shape how you play the game. So yeah, digging that.

Is this a new game? Germany. Or excuse me, Soviets. How old is this game? Way newer than Age of Mythology. Came out last year. Maybe, yeah, 15. In the fall of last year it came out. It's a very good game. Hey, a game that people maybe are interested in

because it's new and coming out. Did you guys see the new Civ 6 trailer? Yeah. I'm fucking disappointed. I don't know what happened to their graphics. I don't know what they're doing and why all the colors are in pastels. Are you joking? No, I'm not joking. It looks like shit. It looks like a

mobile game, but all the changes that they've made to the gameplay. Did we see something different? I haven't even watched it. I went to the website on Forbes, and yeah, I saw the article on Forbes, and I think it was Forbes. The one I saw was different. There was no gameplay in it.

It was just some heads floating over like a hand-drawn timeline. Yeah, that's the one I saw. I saw screenshots of the game, and it didn't look good at all. It looked like a step down from Civ V. What I do like is saw screenshots of the game and it didn't look good at all. It looked like a step down from Civ 5. What I do like is there are changes to the gameplay, the unit stacking. You'll be able to do things like

combining two different units together to make some new squad that's better at a thing. So you can have multiple units on a tile technically, but it's not those stacks of doom that they talk about from Civ 3 or whatever it was Cities now are very expansive instead of being on one tile. They'll take up multiple tiles There will be districts to your city the the you know a library district might be added to up your science yield

And then the really cool thing that's sort of a situational thing it never really made sense for the Egyptians who are like in a desert somewhere to read to be able to research sailing quite as fast as the Japanese who were a coastal civilization. Now that comes into play. If you're a coastal civilization, you'll learn how to sail faster than the Egyptians will. That'll be a challenge to balance.

It could be, yeah. It won't be significant, I don't think. It's just stuff going on in the back end, maybe. Who knows? We'll see. This Civ VI trailer looks like the movie that would be playing on repeat on a little TV at a museum. Just the same footage, zooming in. Oh, there's Paris. Oh, there's a war footage.

Yeah, there was nothing in the trailer. I haven't seen anything from the game yet. There is nothing from the game. Yeah, there's nothing there. It's just the screenshots from that article that I saw. And I don't know. I'm sure it'll be good, but my honest opinion is this. People seem to like the trailer, Kyle,

but it doesn't show any gameplay. Yeah, and they don't know. I don't care who those people are. It's an announcement trailer, though. Those people are like those fucking assholes that play COD every year and love it. And they're like, Oh, I can't wait for the new COD. We're going to play the new single player. Can you see? We're going to

be ghost unlockable. There's a new money, $100 bill camo. They're the people who are still obsessed with that shit when you and I are just like, I'd like some good gameplay. I'd like good mechanics to the game. I'd like a new innovative strategy. I like a lot of the things about

Civ, but I think you're going to have to wait until the modders make it look good they're gonna have to wait for some texture mods uh you know it'll be three or four months after the game's released before it's looking the way it should because some fucking 17 year old will have to do the work for free that's that the sid meyers team should be that's the truth that's 100 the truth and it's not it's not a new thing it's been it always happens somebody said, I wonder if they'll continue the tradition of being incredibly buggy in multiplayer. Yeah.

It was a tweet. It got popular. But yeah, I mean, I'm not a sim expert anymore, but the multiplayer is typically wildly buggy. And even now, it seems like one connection hiccup and your six-hour game is just gone. I've become a bit of an expert at recovering games.

You have to if you're going to play a game like that regularly. But still, it's a buggy situation. It's best played with smaller groups of people, as in one or two. When you get to six people in the game, it's a real crap shoot. I don't think I've ever, ever, ever played a game of Civ with six people in it that went the distance Have you Chiz? I'll allow you to chime in just this once It just never he said no it never happens because there's always an issue with the game the game will freeze it'll lock up

Be unresponsive or you'll just lose progress, so here's the hope an audience if every six player game doesn't work Yeah, well most people play single-player. Single-player is so immersive and time-consuming, and you can play a 1v1 against an AI, or you can play dozens of AI and many scenarios and situational stuff that you can do. But Chiz and I love it for the multiplayer. We play that NQ mod, that filthy robot,

and those guys play, not lately or anything, but that's what we were into and what I would be into if I were playing right now. It's a very tricked out version of multiplayer that cuts all the bullshit out, adds a lot of stuff that's fundamentally correct that should have been there to begin with, and makes the game a lot more

fun. That's how I like to play the game. I'm looking forward to Civ 6 though, because Civ 5 is probably the game I've spent only second to COD 4 probably the most time in civ wow i didn't expect that's a lot of time yeah i thought that one of the other cods would would compete you know yeah i guess that's true i i got like i got 10 i got 10 or 15 days in my work i was thinking this uh while we're talking about cod so uh a lot of us discovered cod and cod 4 right a lot of us discovered COD and COD 4, right? A lot of us are kind of old school.

But Modern Warfare 2 broke the sales records, right? And I think the highest selling one ever was Black Ops 1, right? So when COD 4 re-release is remastered this fall, it's going to be a second game, a new game to a lot of players. A ton of people haven't played COD 4 like we have.

I think there's going to be some Christmas noobs for COD 4. That would be a Christmas miracle. I would be one of them. I'm sure my gun skill is terrible. Jeremy, are you a big gamer at all? Yeah, I just

played Civ 5 like crazy. I, are you a big gamer at all? Yeah, I just, I mean, I play Civ 5 like crazy. I don't play a lot of the shooting games because I suck ass at them. And I'm just so tired of being beaten by 13-year-old mocking buttholes. I just don't even try anymore.

I mean, the whole reason there isn't FPS Rush is because I was tired of those 12-year-olds beating me and I invested far, far, far too much time in making sure that they were the ones on the losing end of things. It was years of fucking practice and a fucking stupid video game that got things done. The whole reason there's a Woody's Gamer tag is so I could start winning games. In particular, I'd see these players who were very good on YouTube, and it was like, I am going to become one of them, and then when we play together we'll never lose well and i also liked the i liked the old tom

clancy games like roguespear and rainbow six like the original ones that let you sort of attack the mission the way you wanted to whereas the call of duty games sort of force me through a certain path it's on rails and it really it really bugs, and I realize I'm maybe showing my age, but I don't want you to say, now you've killed all the people in this arena, go 12 steps this way and kill all the people in this arena. It's kind of boring. I want to be able to kind of be in control.

For a game like Call of Duty, that makes sense, because it's like, you know what you're supposed to do. It's like, your mission is to fucking take the the objective and then you sit on the mini-map there's the fucking objective if there's five different ways to get there and there's different enemies you might have to get through maybe there's a stealth route maybe there's one where you just have to gun your way through you know that's fun what i don't like is a game like a dead space or skyrim where there's not a little mini-map. It's a world that you have to explore, and they're just like,

some dude in the beginning, like an oracle, is like, oh, you gotta find the wizard's breath in the Solace Castle. And you're just like, well, what the fuck? Where do I go? Where do I start? But Dead Space is great. You just hit find a wizard's nest, and you can see exactly where to go.

Man, I would kill for a tit-finding mission. That's amazing. I think you said breath, though, right? Breath, breath, either one. You can find either one. Totally different. He said breath. Like... I was trying to make it be hard to find.

If you cannot find a wizard's breath, you certainly can't find his breath. You know? Anyway. I imagine that wizard's breath was like some sort of rare plant anyway. I wasn't thinking literally. I thought it was a barely visible fog. It's what comes in your bouquet in the 1-800 flowers in Middle Earth.

Yeah, I really like that feature in Dead Space. That was one of the greatest things about that game, besides the environment and the innovative. Everything about Dead Space 1 is just amazing. Dead Space 3 is shit, in my opinion. Dead Space 2 is pretty damn good. But Dead Space 1, in my introduction to Isaac Clark, I think the protagonist's name is,

everything about that I love, because Isaac's not a souped-up, roided-out Doom, you know, the guy from Doom. He's not some, like, block-headed soldier. He's not a killing machine. He's not Schwarzenegger. He's not John Master Chief. He's none of those things.

He's an engineer. He's there to get the refrigerator working. Not really, but, you know, he's there to work on the electronics, and then all of a sudden he's got to use his like engineering tools to like fight some multi-armed demonic alien mutated human corpses in a giant station that's powered down that was the best part of it is that like so many games even like halo like they started off like man what an insurmountable task but if there's one guy he can do it it's the guy that you are and it's like okay but dead space

it's like yeah shit's getting out of control all the soldiers that were here to protect you they're fucked they've been dead for weeks man you got a wrench and some weird soldering tool find your way out like and so you don't feel like you have any power the whole time. You're just a guy in their world. And that's what makes it scary. I think Dead Space 2 is just as good as 1. I love it. What did we play together, Kyle?

Was it 3 or 2? I think we played 3. 3 sucks. I think that's the one where we were trying to fly and I kept failing at it. I don't know what... Kyle just didn't get the hang of that. I think that there might... so the tiniest amount of input lag would have would have caused an issue and

maybe because it was hosted on your machine I'm not seeing what's really going on. I don't know. Maybe I'm just bad at flying through space and avoiding asteroids but god damn it was frustrating. If we hadn't been doing a let's play I'd have been like you know? I don't think this is the game for us anymore. I was losing my patience quickly with that. I didn't care for that at all. But you're like, in space, remember that, it's like that scene from

Star Trek Into Darkness when they fly between ships in space but just in spacesuits. And they've got little retro rockets to kind of guide them around. It's like that, but you're playing the guy with the retro rockets and you don't live. I didn't live.

I died time and time and time and time and time again. So I didn't care for that. Jeremy, I hate to ask this because I'm afraid it's not, but is your channel the one that just did the review with Deadpool? Are you asking me? Yeah. No, that was Screen Junkies. They actually got the Ryan Reynolds to join them on their Honest trailer,

and that's a huge get, and it was a great video. I was really happy for them. I feel like Ryan Reynolds loves this character and everything about it so much that he'll come to a birthday party as Deadpool if you really ask him. Yeah, right. I think we could get him on the show as Deadpool. Yeah, I mean, if we were to ask him at this point to help us with the Sins video, he'd probably say yes, but we'd be copying screen junkies at this point,

so there's no point in that. But yeah, he's so about this character. He's all in. He's recorded like 30-some promo videos, and they're all freaking hilarious. I saw somebody on Reddit like ran them all down today. Like all the marketing shit that Ryan Reynolds has done for Deadpool. And it's all hilarious. So I just

respect that guy so much. I don't know about his deal, but I hope he's getting some money on the back end. I hope he got a bonus for how much money that movie made. And I hope they don't do that Hollywood back end accounting where they fuck him out of it, which seems less prevalent these days

because it happens so much in the past. People are hip to it. Everybody's got a larder that's heard of it. If I've heard of it, they've heard of it, right? That upsets me, though, when I see a movie go out there and make, say, it's a $50 million movie, they make

$300 million, and then the guy who did it, the guy whose performance elevated it, or the guy who was responsible for it at least in some large part, in some part gets gypped. I see sometimes they'll really get fucked over, they'll get almost nothing. They'll end up getting $50,000

or something. It's clear he loves the source material and he gets it, and it's clear he he loves the source material and he gets it but i mean he's in it the studio was willing to just let him and the director you know pay homage to the source material like that movie succeeds because he he's perfect for the role but they also really respect the source material and that just doesn't happen enough you look back at the the deadpool and the you and the Wolverine origins bullshit, and that's not respecting source material at all.

That is, how can I make the source material fit what I want to do? And so I think Deadpool succeeds. I think it's great. I think it's an A movie, A minus. It's not quite as great as we all blowjobbed it on the first weekend, but it's fantastic. It's really funny, and it really just respects the source material. And if more superhero movies would do that,

I think we'd have more... Marvel is killing it. So you're not doing it because you're worried about copying screen junkies? No. I mean, I think it's on the schedule for June right now, but my business partner, Chris, is genuinely concerned

that Deadpool sins the movie himself so much that our video would not be enjoyable. And you have to understand, Chris and I, I'm the progress guy. Chris is the excellence guy. So I push us to move forward, and he pushes us to be excellent before we move forward. And so I want to send Deadpool tomorrow.

I've got the DVD sitting right here. And I think it's just like any other movie, but because it is so self-referential, I've drank too much wine. So fourth wall breaking. I think Chris has genuine concerns that there's enough material for us here, but he's going to dive into it this weekend and we'll find out.

But I do love the movie. I think you caught my attention with the afraid of copy. So I didn't get a chance to answer whose videos I'm watching lately. And the people who know, I've been watching a lot of Casey Neistat. I've watched some Roman Atwood and a bunch of other vloggers. I've started to really enjoy the genre, and I wouldn't think I would have. Where to draw the line on copying is a tricky thing for me. I'm like,

you know, am I allowed to get a drone or is that like Casey's thing? Yeah. I don't even know. Um, have you played this thing? You can't have that as your thing. He does it every video and he does this thing where it seems like from every hotel room he takes off and it like shows him flying the drone as it flies higher than you might guess and shows the city that he's

in i want that exact same shot i am so inspired by it i i want to but i'm afraid to completely rip it off what does this guy do he's just a vlogger you gotta do your own thing we got you know what you like about what he does you gotta come up with your own thing to do with that drone like take his thing and then fucking make it ten times better Kyle I can't get used to that lie to answer your question dude and by the way let's brainstorm

because you are particularly good at that at brainstorming or at flying drones no the idea guy people have heard me verbally blame you you say it so much that I feel like I don't even believe it anymore

yeah you say it so much that when I do come up with ideas people are like eh that would nearly live up to Woody really oversold that idea that's how I felt about my house tour he said he came up with the best ideas he said he like fucking comes up with million dollar ideas and then makes them rain and then kyle kind of came up with a dud there i don't know a muslim catapult like nobody's gonna fund that i'm saying what i think

though like like i'll be like yeah i would like to do this and kyle's like no what you do is and then his twist quadruples what what I was thinking of and uh and and you can see it in his own videos too like he his ideas are better than mine I'm a little better at getting the work done yeah but he's better at the ideas by far there you go see that's Chris and I I have all the. Chris wants to make them all good before they go out to the public. So without both of those elements of the equation, we could not exist. So I'm coming to make peace with it. There it is. I like tinkering and coming.

I like thinking of how things, look at the way something works and then figure out what you really want it to do and figure out how you get A and B to connect. Same thing happened with those acetylene bombs I made the other day. Please tell me that we'll do this. There's a Casey Neistat video where he has no view. It's real recent. It's like two or three days old. And he climbs out the window because all it is is this concrete pad, and then he climbs onto the roof,

and there's this hidden gem of a launching pad on the roof of a hotel. And he flies his drone up, and he shows what seems like i don't want to exaggerate like six miles of city because um his drone is a very good one and it goes further than you might guess oh yeah and um uh and i'm just like oh my god like if i had that shot in my video i would be very proud and um you know if if Kyle looks at that and says you know what he should have done like oh my god Kyle tell me tell me and gotta keep in mind though I hated those drones so much I gave him the woody this might not be his particular area it's my drone I just sent it to him

because I hated it dude I I don't I'm going on and on about me. These vlogs, I'm very excited. Lately, in my vlogs, I feel like, dude, you guys, you haven't seen anything yet. I've been wiring up. I have this stable that is going to be a workshop where I can build things out of metal and wood and motorize things and whatever. And that is

supposed to be the lab, right? So all they've seen so far is me pour the concrete floors, renovate this thing. I'm putting electric in it. We've refinished it. It was damaged by a tornado. So it was a total wreck.

Now it's a good building. Soon it will be a great one. And it's like that is the foundation from which I make other stuff, you know, from the cool things that shoot fire and whatever. And like to people who like my videos, dude, they haven't even started yet. Like, you know, what, what should happen is these videos should be like the daily sequence with a pop every week or two. That is the culmination of my new project. And, um, uh, anyway, uh, yeah, I would just love to brainstorm with Kyle about the things that I think are the best about other people's videos.

And if we took them to the next level, then your shop's great. What you need is some of that machinery that I've got. If you ever want some lathes or like drill presses or something like that, I'd love to get rid of mine because they're just collecting dust. But you've got a hell of a shop. You can do anything you want in there that like you're not limited like like i used to be in a two-car garage and uh and it felt really limited this is about the size of four two-car garages and it's completely empty except for your shit yeah yeah and uh it's i don't know it's just uh the potential is pretty big yeah you could do like a colin Firth style channel if you wanted to.

Like always coming up with like fucking jet bikes and flamethrower arms. Is he the one that did the hover bike thing with the two parasail motors? No, he wasn't. I saw that. He's the guy who puts a jet engine on like a mobility scooter and gets it up to 60 without a helmet or something like that. Yeah, that's the shit. Dude, let's put a – oh, I saw Casey's motorized skateboard. I think it's adorable.

Let's do this shit. Weed eater. Yeah, break out all my hockey equipment and just wrap myself in bubble wrap and take a skateboard 60 miles an hour. How cool would that be? Maybe we could both get in hockey gear and have a fight with weed eaters. I've been on a weed eater kick lately trying to modify weed eaters

because I've got an old one that's like, it runs and everything, but I've got a better one. Weed Eater Junior is worthless now. He's just worthless. And so I've been trying to come up with things to do with him because I feel like you've got a lot to work with there and i'm trying to figure out ways to utilize the power of that tiny little engine and you know the way it works and everything to power something else i'm

still working on it but we're gonna make something yeah dude when the the i haven't been able to move my equipment in the shop i know jeremy i'm i gotta let you jeremy why don't I just let you go? All right. Well, listen, I have had a blast. We had two hours of prep while we waited for tech to work out and a couple hours of talking. And I really find all of you very enjoyable, despite the heated political discussion we had an hour ago. Please, Kyle. Our political discussions should be heated.

I would be willing to come back again if you have me someday down the road. I think you guys are all awesome and just appreciate you letting me share in this time. I'm going to go watch the third period and hope the Preds can score four fucking goals in 18 minutes. Definitely mutual. We're glad we were finally able to get you

on. We had a couple scheduling snafus and bullshit would come up and everything, so I'm really glad you were able to get on the show. I'm a big fan of yours, like I said. Thanks, man. Big fan of you too. We get lots of scheduling snafus and bullshit would come up and everything, so I'm really glad you were able to get on the show. I'm a big fan of yours, like I said. Thanks, man. Big fan of you, too. We get lots of people that come on, and I won't say shit to them because I don't like their videos or I don't watch their videos. It's usually the latter. But I really enjoy

your videos, like what you do a lot. Tell the people, our listeners out there who are listening in right now, where they should go to check you out on things like Twitter or Instagram or YouTube or wherever you'd like to send them. Sure, you can find us at Twitter at CinemaSins. It's mostly just a Jeremy account.

My opinions, not Chris's. You can find us on Tumblr. You can find us on... I don't give a fuck. Just enjoy the videos on YouTube or don't. I just appreciate the time and the conversation. I really like talking to people who love the same stuff I do.

And that's what this was tonight. So I hope to be back sometime, guys. For sure, man. It was a lot of fun. I'm so glad we got a hockey person. Thank you. There you go. All right.

Well, I'm going to go watch the third period. You guys carry on, and you're awesome. And I look forward to the episode. Let me know when it's up so I can tweet it out. Awesome. Yeah, for sure. Really nice of you. Thanks for sure all right thanks guys so what were you talking about uh i was just gonna wrap up on the stable thing i we were talking about the machinery and the space and stuff i haven't really been able to do very much because i had to put i'm putting epoxy on the concrete and that takes a month before you're like allowed to put epoxy on it. So I'm mostly just like, well, I guess I can run some outlets. I guess I can do this.

Like getting things done. And then once that is done, I'll be able to – sky's the limit. And I can start doing actual stuff. And I'm excited about that. That's awesome. Yeah. Just from my neck of the – I always think of things to build that involve guns and explosives and stuff like that i would build a mortar if i were you i would build my

own mortar uh like a black powder mortar that would fire whatever projectile you want it to fire um what some people do have you ever seen those like metal coke bottles it's like a bottle but it's an aluminum coke bottle oh yeah i don't know if I've seen that. Well, they do beers the same way. It's a bottle, but it's aluminum. It's shaped like a glass bottle, like a long neck, but it's aluminum. So what they do with those is they'll fill them up with Bondo or something like that and turn that into a projectile. That's your bullet.

And then launch them with a black powder mortar, which are very easy to make. You can get kits online of ones that have been destroyed, and you could refurbish one and get, like, a historical one. Or you could start from, like, Dirty Dirty Scratch, like it's Junkyard Wars, and go get yourself some pipe and some tools and stuff. I like mortars. Junkyard Wars.

I haven't even thought about that. Remember that shit? Dude. That show was so dope back in the day. I loved that show. And it's only now that I realize, like, you could. I was still young, so I was naive in regards to these reality shows. But I was always like, God damn, this junkyard has everything.

I can't believe they had a full motor right there. I can't believe that they had pretty much equidistant parts for both parties distributed evenly amongst these piles of rubble. And they would both have plans right like my idea for a flying boat you know is to handle it this way and my idea for a flying boat is to handle it that other way and then they'd run out through the thing and be like oh just what i was looking for a pontoon and yeah yeah it but it was still fun it was still fun and i i knew that even as a middle schooler that's that's where i was at the time i was in probably probably eighth grade i think it was in eighth grade when uh when when that show was out and and doing its thing i remember

they made some kind of a football launcher football football shooter or something like that um that's the other thing that i always keep running into because uh we a lot of sports video games will come to us Or there'll be something sports related whether they want to do an integration or a video And I've forever been trying to think of exploding foot like they make those Launchers that'll shoot a football like a fucking QB threw it like a bullet, and I've always wanted to weaponize Like I want to be shooting you know perfect spiral footballs that explode on impact. Did you ever have those shitty little toy guns you'd get with tickets at Chuck E. Cheese

where it didn't shoot foam balls, it shot those shitty little discs with air, and it was in a little magazine, you'd pull it and it'd just go like... It would shoot so slow. I could picture you making some crazy, like, jerry-rigged machine that fires, like, hockey pucks like that at, like, 110 miles an hour. Just over-the-shoulder cannon. That would be pretty sweet. Or baseballs.

Anything just to fire them out of there. If I were an engineer, I feel like I could make a lot of my ideas into things, but I'm not. But I see guys who are engineers and and and do have youtube channels uh i i suppose and they do all kinds of crazy stuff they'll have engineer stuff is just as cool though like i see like saw blade launchers and and like crazy slingshots and that's that actually you mentioned the mortar thing and i i was like oh that's a similar idea i was thinking of a giant slingshot and that's that actually you mentioned the mortar thing and i i was like oh that's a similar idea i was thinking of a giant slingshot like what if i just mount the two telephone poles in the yard as a thing and uh i don't know use the tractor to pull the slingshot down and launch

it in the air on a regular basis i think he would be better off if you're gonna put that much effort into it like making some sort of old school medieval style like siege weapon. Yeah, but miniaturized. Like there was one that winds up. I've seen like at the pumpkin chunking thing. Are you familiar with this? Where they launch the pumpkins. It's been closed for a while. That's a trebuchet. Taylor, can you turn your camera off?

They have three different classes. I'm toggling it. They have three different classes at pumpkin chunking. It's been shut down for a while because some guy wrecked a four-wheeler on the field checking for pumpkins and sued them all, and it's shut the whole thing down. But they had the centrifugal ones that were like... They would be spinning like a fan until they reached maximum speed and then release. They've got the old-school catapult-slash-trebuchets,

and then they've got the air cannons. But I saw one that utilized springs so you like you turned a crank and you were rotating a a a thing and as you rotated it the springs were were being drawn yeah were being pulled so you're just building more and more you know potential energy up and then utilize it that way i don't know i like tinkering with stuff i like coming up with ideas like that. I'm not great at putting them into effect because I don't I feel like you need stuff

and I don't know how to do it. I feel like I don't always have the tools or the know-how. Yeah. I'm psyched to do cool stuff. I'm psyched to see you do cool stuff. Yeah. Yeah. People like my videos.

I'm proud of that. I get a lot of positive feedback. Just don't do those Molotov cocktails. You're always talking about that. Don't do that. Try and stop me. It's technically against the law. It's a real problem.

Is it really? Yeah. Why? It's a serious offense. Because technically you're creating a destructive device. And whenever I talk about laws like this, what I like to preface first is to say that one of the reasons I like to have a concealed carry permit is so that if I get pulled over

for a tail light out, I don't also get a ticket for an unlicensed handgun. It's not like it – because that's when it happens. It's always added onto when something like that comes up. So what would happen would be you'd make a Molotov cocktail and have a good time in your backyard and it's all gravy, up until the point where you either record it on the internet and show somebody or something bad happens. And then it's very easy for either one concerned citizen or an agent in a government agency to go, hey, that's not right. And then they come knock on your door. And the truth is it's not legal. And you need a license to create one, technically speaking. I have that license so you know

is it the FL oh actually it's a destructive device fuck that might be my type 10 that allows me to do that even I haven't thought about this in a while I think they're considered destructive devices and you need a type 10 destructive

device manufacturing permit to make them which is the same thing you need to make cannons and like it doesn't how hard is it to get a type 10 permit? Those are black powder replicas now that is where you want to go my friend because that is the land of no

registration no requirements black powder replicas. You know what else I want to make as a starter I was thinking of making a shotgun like it is really straightforward to make replicants as a starter i was thinking of making a shotgun like it is really straightforward to make a shotgun with some black pipe and a nail or bolt or something you shouldn't make it like uh but one of those like and it's layered like openings like pirates used to have like a blunderbuss where they just threw shards of shit and then just boom shoot whatever's laying on deck at your opponent. Yeah. I'm just like man. I am a freaking chop saw.

And some black pipe away from my first thing. And the things can get better. Is my skill set. And experience compound. Go ahead Kyle. I was sort of signaling to Chiz. Oh. I was letting him know that I will.

Okay. So anyway. I'm looking forward to that. I feel like, oh, did you like me wiring up the shop? You're adorable. It's just the beginning. So I look forward to the cool stuff. I look forward to seeing that stuff.

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I just want to preface that. But what was that Robert Redford movie with Demi Moore? Indecent Proposal? Indecent Proposal. God damn. So if you guys don't know the movie, it's old. It's like from the 90s or something. Woody Harrelson and Demi Moore's character have this perfect relationship.

They love each other. Everything is great. They share common dreams of building a house on this wonderful lot, etc. And they go out gambling. Robert Redford's character, who plays a very, very wealthy guy, offers a million dollars if he can sleep with Demi Moore they say yes and uh then the bulk of the movie is about that scar that it left about how Woody Harrelson couldn't quite deal with it about uh you know how she kind of wanted to be forgiven because it was a joint decision but he held her responsible I remember at one point he asked her if she liked it and you know she didn't want to answer she didn't wanted to be forgiven because it was a joint decision, but he held her responsible. I remember at one point he asked her if she liked it,

and she didn't want to answer, she didn't want to answer the question. She's like, yeah, yeah, it was great sex. And that crushed him even further. And at the very end, I'll ruin it, the characters get back together and you see them holding hands, but you know that there's still that scar in that relationship. And for me, I think it mold know one of the fidelity aspects of me like oh yeah like that i don't want that i don't want that damaged relationship that they have i've never seen that movie sounds depressing a little bit wow that's

really hard the movie that's shaped that is hard Because I don't feel like there are that many movies that have shaped my life. Like, as far as getting me into something, like, it'd be Lord of the Rings, because I got more... I got super into Lord of the Rings from that. I still love Lord of the Rings. But if it's, like, the most emotional

I've ever felt over a movie, it's probably The Green Mile. But that doesn't make me think, like, man, that'll teach me to go to prison as a minority in the 30s. Like, that doesn't make sense. Like, I don't know what movie it would be.

He's an angel, right? My thought process was always that John was an angel in that film. John? In The Green Mile? That wasn't the black guy's name? John Coffey? Yeah, John Coff black guy's name? No, it was. John Coffey?

Yeah, John Coffey. I didn't ever think he was an angel. Yeah, that's what I thought. Oh. Well, maybe I'm wrong. Just something about him healing the people and then vomiting some sort of demonic evil out of his mouth every time.

I always thought he was some kind of almost like a prophet-ish guy where it's like God gave him some special powers or whatever the power is in that movie gave him imbued him with this and by virtue of him being who he was in the time period he was all the good potential that he could have offered people squandered because you know people didn't trust him and they thought he was evil so yeah i thought he was an angel just because of he was a little off right like like yeah i think i think people took it as him being slow-witted when in reality it was just extreme innocence that's what it felt like to me it was

it was like there's a being not of this yeah it was like a being not it was like exactly what i would expect an angel to be like you know not like in the bible they wouldn't like have any children eaten or strike anyone dead hey maybe if you were a bible angel he would have as soon as percy stepped on that rat percy would have turned to salt or something like that i didn't like that at all that that moment right there is real so look i'm having a hard time with this well uh movies that that that shaped my life was that it yeah i guess i go Lord of the Rings. I really like The Matrix because I like The Matrix

so much. It wasn't like something from that subreddit, The Blunder Years. I didn't get a trench coat and pose for any photos or anything lame like that. But it did get me into that genre of movies more. I don't know. Huh. I'm really struggling

with this. There's lots of movies that I love, but I don't know that any of them have ever shaped my life. I guess maybe Schwarzenegger. Let's just call Schwarzenegger's career as something that shaped my life a little bit like that, because the whole idea, the way that he does his thing, there's a little bit of that in what I

do, because what he's doing is he's going out there, and when he's shooting a machine gun, like what he's doing is he's going out there and when he's shooting a machine gun like in Commando when he's mowing down an entire drug uh drug king pins army right like that's what everybody loves looking at him shoot that machine gun because it looks cool he's shooting with one hand so Rambo did the same thing in the back of the day it looks easy I'm sorry to interrupt you I remember as a boy scout sitting there with all my other like 11 year old boy scout friends and this is the conversation we we all agreed you know war is really easy i don't see the big deal you just you kill like 30 40 50 people at one time

you know like what's even hard about let go of don't let go of the trigger. Yeah. It's the first, it's the mentality that you have when you first go into a paintball match. If you remember, I don't know how young you guys were when you first played paintball, but I was probably nine when I first played. And when you go in at that age, you are picturing yourself as like the grand poobah of all warfare. Just like, you know, a quick lean out two shots two kills everyone on the other team is oh my god who is this this phantom this demon's whisper behind me you know there's turning around quickly you're scared at your presence but then you get out there and you pop out and like that you're like oh shit those are other people just like me. Oh, okay.

This is different than what I anticipated. There are no men like me. It's interesting how it takes you to put into that to realize it because you have such a big thought of yourself as just intrinsically being able to do it better. That's the best Jamie Lannister quote ever, right? I can't remember what they said to him. They were just like, I've known men like you. And he's like, there are no men like me.

It's like, fuck yeah, that's the best line ever. And she's just like, fair enough, alright. I'm taking this off topic, but Jamie Lannister, he's this great swordsman back when he had his hand. I wonder how he ranks against the other great swordsmen. Could he beat the sellsword?

How about that guy with the two swords from last episode? Brienne, the hound. How would he do these things? Even Ned. I have a pretty good ranking in my head, but I guess we're done with the movie thing. I guess so. Because I'm just saying Schwarzenegger.

I don't know. I liked it. It was a good answer, though. I took something from just watching the way that he operates a gun in the movie. It's fun to watch him do it. It was a good answer, though. I took something from just watching the way that he operates a gun in the movie. It's fun to watch him do it. And so I tried to emulate that in some ways. The same reasons that I want to watch Schwarzenegger shoot a gun, I try to do those things when I'm shooting a gun.

Because you want to see the guy shooting a gun having fun. I hate when I... And I'm not shitting on anybody, but sometimes a guy's gun video will be nothing but him being super focused and intense and just fucking... It's all about hitting the bullseye. Andye and it's like look we can all hit the bullseye like the kid at home watching he's sat in his 20 in his bat in his backyard the 22 and hit the bullseye before let's have some fun let's loosen up a little bit like it's a machine gun yeah i know it's not a toy per se but we're gonna play with it just the same in a safe way so let's enjoy it

while we do i agree completely i they're they're educational gun videos and i like those but it's really the fun ones that i enjoy the most uh um the ones where they get all tactical and just we were talking about this the other day i don't even want to yeah i don't want to give details because yeah i don't want to give the details specific people i was this one guy did... I was talking to another gun channel the other day. I'll just leave it at that. I was talking to Chad the other day,

and he was talking about somebody who had made a video, and it was just so embarrassing. It was this guy. Okay. And he had just done something real silly in his video. This is bad show topic because I can't talk about what I'm talking about. So maybe later. What were we going to go to?

There was something. Oh, we can go to Bible stories from Taylor, or we can go to. Wait, does Taylor have a Bible story queued up? No, I don't right now. I feel like with his upbringing, how does he not have them on tap, right? I'd have to think because usually it's something like a moral quandary or something that inspires it for me to come. So if it comes to me naturally, I'll tell a Bible story. I'll give you a little thought later.

I love those, though. Those are one of my favorite things. I'll take one. You guys think about the next topic, but here's one that was just for me. Woody, you're the CEO of the UFC. How do you improve it there are um a couple things that the ufc does fundamentally right one and people will disagree with this they don't really hide fighters right in boxing guys run up 30 to nothing 20 to nothing

there's a 50 and nothing fighter that's real unusual um mexican guy chavez his career ended at like 101 and 2 or something like that um it's because they're they're not fighting people on their level they run up their record in the ufc if you're the best you fight the second best you know if you're fifth you fight the guy who's either like fourth or sixth like they always do that and it's very difficult to not lose fights because they give you the fights that you want to see they pick fights the fans want to see and i love that they do that um what would i do differently which is the core of it i think they're missing a little showmanship right the

fact that like fighters as they enter the ring, it has to be so dull. They can't let fighters... Some fighters have personality. And they would, like in Pride, one guy did a Michael Jackson sync dance with the rest of his team as they approached the octagon. It was a ring in that case. And if they just let the fighters have a little more personality in there, then it might do a lot to market both the fighter and the UFC. People would be excited. You could do a little more with the walk-ins than they do the showmanship.

They put up some lasers and some colored lights and think that they have a great production. But there's so much more you could do with fighters rising through the floor and better ramps. They tried the live performances when they had the UFC that was in Ireland, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they had Sinead O'Connor and they had the guy from Stained who's a solo country artist now. That was okay.

But I agree with you. They could learn from Raw a little bit there. Maybe some fireballs going out. He comes stomping out. And they need to come... I feel like I don't even know where they're coming at. They're always coming out of some like. Some hole in the wall.

Some hole in the wall. I want them to come out on a stage. Right. With like the big screen behind them. Just like wrestling. That's what wrestling is. Put them on a freaking harness and drop them from the ceiling or something. Like Sting did.

Yeah, yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah. They do that in wrestling too. Okay. There's a lot they could learn from wrestling, I think, in terms of of showmanship i think they should allow the fighters to make more money like everyone picks on the reebok deal what people don't know is a lot of the fighters are about the same under the reebok deal you know like i know a couple fighters they all get paid similarly yeah like there are a

couple like a heavyweight brandon schwab in particular was getting like a hundred grand in sponsors and that's an outlier you know he's a heavyweight so some people are especially interested in those but the bulk of the fighters are getting a similar deal to what they had elsewhere and then the special ones like the ronda rousey or the conor mcgregor or whatever they have individual deals with reebok that get them paid more than the standard rate but a lot of them are about where they used to be and you just don't hear from them as much but I still feel like they could do a little more to help the fighters you know have a platform of their own what did did you see recently that uh there's been some talk about McGregor fighting uh Mayweather oh yeah yeah I saw McGregor so I guess that McGregor posted sort of a mock-up of, you know,

a face-to-face weigh-in type scenario with the two of them on his Instagram, I think. And then Dana White commented that, hey, Conor is under contract with the UFC. So if Floyd wants to fight Conor, he needs to come to me. And I think some people. It didn't go quite like that so the rumor was started by mayweather right and that's where it started from and uh um uh

people were like oh it's not true this and that and they're like mayweather yeah did you hear this he's like yeah not only did i hear this rumor i started this rumor i want to fight connor mcgregor and uh dana white was like he's not serious about it whatever but. I want to fight Conor McGregor. And Dana White was like, he's not serious about it, whatever. But if you want to do it, call me. And it wasn't, like, I just feel like the vibe is a little different than you put it out. Dana White is like, yeah, yeah, call me. Let's set this stuff up. He'd like nothing more than to have Conor fight Mayweather.

Really? In the UFC? I think it would be a very high- fight that in the ufc or in boxing it would be a very very even defined yet i think they're mostly talking about a boxing match and uh um so they did but you know even if mcgregor loses does that bring a lot of attention that the ufc otherwise would have had he would lose he will lose in boxing yeah yeah so mayweather is mayweather is one of the best boxers that there has ever been. Now whether he's better than Pacquiao

in his prime or not, who gives a fuck? I don't fucking care. I'm just talking about pound for pound talented guys who are good at winning boxing matches, not necessarily putting on a show. He's the best at that. He's one of the top three best that there have ever been at that, at least in modern history

like since I, in recorded history and shit maybe some greek fucker like a long time ago could really put up his dukes but this guy's a badass um so and mcgregor is i'm guessing a very good boxer even on the world scale he couldn't be a professional boxer though he'd be a journeyman maybe right like he could be in the lower tiers of the professional boxing leagues. What does journeyman mean? It's a guy who is a legit pro winning record, but not an all-star. I think that well. I don't think that he would even be that.

I think he was a pro boxer at one point, Conor McGregor. And some people might say he does less than that who knows but uh the thought process amongst a lot of people who pay attention to this sort of thing is that even just just the eyes they bring on the ufc would be good even if their guy lost it would be massive it would be massive i'd love to watch the fight um i like mayweather um i don't i guess it's hard to like him personally because he's such a you know what i mean yeah yeah but Massive. It would be massive. I'd love to watch the fight. I like Mayweather. It's hard to like him personally because he's such a... You know what I mean?

He doesn't seem very nice. No, he doesn't. But sometimes he'll do a thing that you're glad... He's almost like Trump in a way. You're like, he's a son of a bitch, but he's almost my son of a bitch because he did that thing that I like. I like his bets. I like when he goes out there and bets $10 million on something ridiculous like that. I feel like he's... I like that. I like his bets. I like when he goes out there and bets $10 million on something ridiculous like that.

I feel like he's... I like that. I like seeing that. I'd love to see Mayweather fight McGregor. So the thing about McGregor is his really dangerous thing is his hands, right? His left hook in particular. Joe Lozon has this line that everything is smoke and mirrors. It's all set up for that left hand.

It's like, oh, if there was a boxer that would ever be competitive in mma you'd think it'd be mayweather against a guy like mcgregor mcgregor doesn't want to take him down he probably could he's probably great on the ground compared to mayweather but he's i don't i can't recall mcgregor taking anyone down except for the panic wrestling on uhz. I think he would beat Mayweather badly if he took him to the ground. But any sort of stand-up fight, it's going to be a bloodbath. Not like, you know, what's-his-name McGregor is just stunned the whole time. But just the way Mayweather fights, McGregor's not going to be able to handle that.

What if Conor kicks him in the leg? I don't know. I would love to see that. It's not a boxing match. Yeah, if we're doing kickboxing, Conor wins. You could leave it right there. You don't even have to go into MMA. At kickboxing, I think Conor wins just because of his length and his legs. Anything but boxing is not going to win.

When they put James Toney in there against Randy Couture, this is years back, it's like, what a terrible matchup. What a god-awful matchup. Randy Couture is This is years back. It's like, what a terrible matchup. What a god-awful matchup. Randy Couture is an Olympic-level wrestler against a boxer. He goes in there, takes out his foot. I feel like we just talked about this. Was it pre-show? He takes the

guy out, and he basically takes him down to the ground, and then James Tony has no idea what to do next. But that's not McGregor. If there's anyone who wants to stay on their feet, I can't think of many fighters who'd rather stay on their feet than McGregor. So I'd just like to put on a show if you're laying down. I bet he sees it that way.

He likes to stay on his feet because on the UFC spectrum of boxing, if this is the top, he's right here. On the boxing spectrum of boxing, he's right here. I think you're right. And that's what the experts are saying. But the thing is, it wouldn't matter if on the boxing spectrum he was up here somewhere, because the guy he's fighting is up here somewhere.

Yeah. Mayweather is an incredible boxer. I don't know a lot about boxing, but I've watched, like, I don't know, two or three hours of coverage of Mayweather and people dissecting him and people who do know about boxing talk about him. It's sort of a Chiz-educated expert opinion, if you know what I mean. And from what I've heard and read, and what the experts say, this guy really is legit. He's dodged a lot of people,

and there's the whole thing with Pacquiao, but Jesus Christ, he's deadly with his hands, and he's evasive. He's so evasive that here's how i think a boxing match would go i think he goes out there and makes connor look like a fool like a fool because connor is throw is throwing punches that aren't connecting they aren't even coming close and mayweather's smiling at him and he's smiling at him for like a round or two just making him miss and backing up and maybe every now and then just blooding his nose a little bit and then backing up a little more. And it would go like that for round after round.

Until either McGregor got stupid enough that Mayweather knocked him out. Or the decision. They can go to the decision. Mayweather's cool with that too. I've heard an expert who had the same opinion. That he would just make McGregor look like a fool. And one of them, like, it was Brian Callahanan or callahan whatever his name is in the fighter and the kid and he's been in the ring with outstanding people and they play games they're like all right

let's spar for a bit here's the deal i won't hit you and uh he's just like you know missing all trapped up and uh it's like god this it's almost worse than you hitting me. Because he just looks like an idiot. Because now you don't look like you're fighting and losing. You look like you shouldn't even be out there. You're fighting with a guy who's dancing around you, laughing at you, and you can't even touch him.

You're just on the generals at that point. Just get the fool made out of you. Like at the beginning of Kill Bill 2 when the Kung Fu Master's like, if you can even touch me, I will bow down and call you master. And Uma Thurman's like, and she can't fucking touch him.

Is that good? That's how it would be. I don't think McGregor can punch Mayweather in the face. That's what McGregor would be saying. Personally, I want to see it. He would love to see it. He would love to see him doing his same thing of like like you said smoking mirrors and a bunch of nonsense to try and distract him and mayweather would be like you you know that i've

you know this is my job right i've been doing this for a couple years yeah you're not gonna fool me you know all those other boxers who are also way better than you yeah i haven't lost to any of them so come on step up that that's really well put. So that happened with Nate Diaz recently. So as you know, in striking, Conor McGregor has really high-level striking. The thing about the Diaz brothers, though, is they're also boxers. Nick Diaz was a pro boxer. Nate Diaz just trained with lots and lots of pro boxers. So one of the things about him with McGregor was that what McGregor's got going on, all the smoke and mirrors and the way he

set up that lift, was nothing new to Diaz. He's trained with guys who are better boxers than anyone in the UFC all the time. So he wasn't surprised? Boxing is a science and I don't even claim to even understand the very basics of it. But I can watch it

and understand what I'm seeing. It's not just two guys standing there wailing on each other it's it if you're a great boxer then your footwork alone will make the other guy like a fool it's i'd love to see that fight but i would like to see it i don't what it should be if it's a straight up boxing match it's not a i'd still watch it i'd still pay for it but i don't think it's as interesting as some sort of uh an in-between compromise so that they both get you know what size gloves are they wearing for example you're gonna put mayweather

out there and four six eight ounce gloves what are you gonna put him in i mean how's his defense with those gloves oh very good point but i i have in my now i don't know this now i'm going out on a limb here but i'm imagining mayweather's the kind of guy who could like, just catch your punches all day. Like keep throwing them out. I'll fucking tap the front of your... It's like he's got one hand he protects with the glove and the other hand with his shoulder.

And he keeps his chin in the shoulder roll. And so I guess that works with gloves too. I'm not even sure. And he's always backing up. His main gear is reverse. You want to do a topic? I feel like I'm not expert enough to talk about boxers. That's never stopped us before.

I mean, we've already decided about the Muslims. And who else? What other group did we go after? I like this question. I don't know. You were really pushing the envelope there. And I really enjoyed it. I really liked fucking with uh with with jeremy

but i believe about 85 of what i said um i in my opinion america should be first like like i saw that the other day when trump was like america first and they were seeing what percentage of americans agreed with that and that made me want to go like euthanize 40 of americans it's like we should all think that way why Why not? I believe in American exceptionalism. I don't think we live up to it all the time, but I still believe in it. And I'd like to believe that we can live up to it. And I think, yeah, America first.

Us first. In all regards. In all matters. Now, that doesn't mean that just because you're second Canada that you're not getting some good stuff, too. We won't take care of you. We'll fight to the death for you. We like you, England. I will never forget how you joined us in that bullshit Iraq war. And even though it was a stupid idea, you stood next to us anyway.

Someone fucks England. Yeah, you and us have been tight since like 1815 or something like that. We're good. We're good. Hey, I like this question. I don't know. Are you guys ready? Yeah, let's hear it Is it normal to hate going to work?

Yeah, of course it is What I do and what not I work in IT And I travel about 70 miles Over an hour Just to get to work And I earn around 18,000 pounds A year

And that's about 25 grand And I'm 18 years old This is not my long term plan As I want to join the military But I obviously need to shred around 12 stones. Oh. To begin with, but I'm working on it.

So, 12 stones, I assume is a... That's a lot of weight. It's a lot, right? How many stones is like 30 pounds? 156 pounds is 12 stones. Thank you, Chiz. So, he's got a year and a half long weight loss program, I would guess, to get there. And is it normal to hate going to work like that?

Taylor? I think if you're 18 and it's your first job like that like yeah that's pretty normal like nobody's handing out super fun gigs to 18 year olds you know you have to pay your dues but i mean if you're like 48 and you just loathe going into work every day i just arbitrarily pick that number you know if it happens when you're 31 still shitty but you're 48 you're going and you hate your job every day i don't know if it's normal but that does suck like i don't think most people don't have the luxury of really finding their passion and being able to do that most people don't like no most people aren't just like man i love accounting like i can't wait to get into

work and open up excel like no most people aren't like that. Yeah, I often hate work. I guess I'll just talk, instead of a job, let's call it work. I hate work. I hate having to do work. I hate when there's work looming over me. I like getting work done. There is a nice feeling when you do that.

But when you're actually doing it, it's terrible. I hate it. And it depends on the work, of course. Like there's a big difference between digging holes and making a video about an M60 machine gun and selling a Ford F-150. You know, there's a big difference in all those jobs and what comes along with it. But I've never really like, ooh, work today. It's always hate. I always hate it. You know, but you trudge through it, because that's life. The goal should be to find something that you don't hate quite as much as the other things. That's the best

you're going to get, and that's the truth. Most people won't tell you that, but no matter what you do, like, if you love playing video games, try getting a job playing video games for a living. See how much you like them after that. You like having sex? Go join the porn industry. See how that goes for you. It doesn't

work out that way. The guys who make the donuts never eat them. And that's just the way life works. So if you really want to love your job, then you better make your vocation your vacation or it's not going to happen. Kyle nailed it. And I've talked about that stuff before. I couldn't phrase it any better. When you take what you love, right? If you love photography, if it's your hobby, if every day you're there online absorbing information about new cameras and there's a word they use for composition and like all the things that make photography great. Then you become a photographer. And when you wrap work around your passion, it lowers it down. And Kyle said it so well.

It's like if you can just find a job that you don't hate, you know. He says, oh, you love playing video games? Try making video games your job. God, I feel like we drag his name up every show. But like Wings of Redemption did that, right? He loved video games. Then they're his job. I bet he still likes video games

more than things he doesn't like, but... It'll ruin a video game so quickly. You wrap work around anything. I loved programming. Loved programming, right? I'd work, I'd code at night, I'd wake up early in the morning so I could learn new stuff,

watch VHS tapes to go old school about coding, and then I'd go to work and code. And then after a while, just like you know like it's just my job I don't hate it I don't dread it every day and people have heard this too but I remember I talked to my father once I had this reputation amongst my family as this guy that loved his job right oh yeah what he loves his job he just skips into work every day and he's so successful there and everything is great. And I was like, dad, I don't really love it anymore.

I don't love it like I used to. And he's like, ah, did it take you whatever, six years, 10 years to figure that out? You're lucky. If you were a lawyer, it'd take you two weeks. And that's kind of how I I feel now this guy hates going to work what's his job did he say said he worked in IT you know if you dread going to work if working IT is not your bag and and it was kind of mine like I enjoyed it I like the people I work with I found the challenges interesting it wasn't like I'd choose it over fun stuff you know like but I like IT but if you hate it

then it's time for you to pivot pick up a second major in school or something that's how I went from accounting to IT or maybe a different kind of coding that not knowing anything about coding could a different job do the difference maybe it's still coding but you're just coding something you care about because i i'm just again don't even know about coding here but um you know if i were coding

name something boring a new graphing calculator if i were figuring out if i were writing whatever makes that fucking thing work i wouldn't give two shits i wouldn't care i'd hate it i'd be just fucking i'm gonna put some errors in here just to fuck with them but but if i were coding like something new and cool and revolutionary if i if i'm working for elon musk if i'm coming up with some like hyper channel what do they call it i was gonna ask you as a question but i won't i'll leave him sequestered yeah that hyper looploop. If I'm coding the software that's going to control the air pressure in the Hyperloop tunnel,

if I'm coding that, I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm the guy who can make sure the pressure's right. That's me. I wrote that part of the system. But, yeah, you're sequestered. I got lost for a second, but I got the impression he wasn't coding. I think that he's doing some sort of sysadmin work.

But just the same, if that's not your cup of tea, either find something in your pie wedge. I've talked about this a lot too. If you get a tech degree in engineering of some sort, then you can shift from engineering to computer science to some other kind of engineering. All these doors are kind of open to you. If you're in the medical field, then you can go from x-ray tech to nurse to whatever with just a little bit of enhancement to your skill set. You're not starting from zero.

If you hate it that much, maybe you need to switch whole pie wedges and start over. You're only 18 or, you know, lose the weight. I don't know. But no, I would say that if you hate work, you need to do something about it. If you would rather be doing something than working, that's normal. No, Kyle. If you'd rather be doing something else, then yeah, everybody would rather be somewhere

else. But if you hate it, if you hate going to your job, figure out how to make a change. Just remember, down the tracks, not across the street. I like painkiller already. I like the ridiculous shit. Because this is as good as it's ever going to be for you right now.

Life is this. It's a tractor tire on fire rolling down an embankment. And every now and then it hops as it's rolling. And you think, ah, it's over. I'm going to win. I'm going up. It's over. I've changed the direction of light.

And then you just bounce back down. You continue to roll down on fire down the hill. So, you know, find a solution you're comfortable with. Pills works. Yep. Down the lane. This is terrible advice. All of it.

And I disagree with it. I think that this guy's already got his shit figured out, though. He said, I want to join the military. I need to lose 160, 170 pounds or whatever. That's all he's got to do. He's already got a plan. Work that job that you don't like. Use it as motivation to lose the weight and join the military.

Seems like that's what you want to do. I would suggest even going and talking to a military recruiter about what he wants to do. And they might be able to be like, hey, we've got a special fatty program where we get you fuckers in there and give you like an 18 week boot camp. You can start tomorrow. I don't know if that's a thing, but the U.S. military should make it a thing

because we've got so many fatties in this country. I feel like if they did that, if they had fatty boot camp where they lowered the levels at which they'll accept someone like, Oh, your BMI is 38. Cool.

That's not a bad idea though. Actually. I'm just processing it in my head. Like we might be accepting someone with less potential because he's currently fitter. If we had a fatty program, we might have smarter soldiers. We might have soldiers with better heart.

You might take a guy and like, you know what, he's great in every way except pull-ups, right? Let's just fix that about him and then we'll elevate the whole level. You know, if it weren't for his lifetime battle with cholesterol, he could really show the krauts what's for.

There might be diamonds in the pudge that we can mine and and turn into great soldiers and leaders the enemy is fucking dropping sausages they know our weak spot now right bacon launching into the trenches that's what our thing is like when the fatties get captured they like rip the prilosec OTC off their necklace and take it real quick. Oh, that's great. At least I won't have heartburn as they're beheading me. So on my flight here today, which went very well, by the way. I flew here, then back, and then I'm here again.

So I've made a couple of LA flights in the last couple of weeks. And the first one was terrible. The second one wasn't a whole lot better. This one was real nice. But it was by the skin of my teeth. Just like this did I escape utter disaster. There were so many fatties on this airplane. There was a woman sitting right behind me.

I got the aisle seat. I'm 42C, all the way in the back of this 737. And as I'm approaching her, I see her. She is hanging out into the aisle. She's taking three quarters of the aisle. The woman next to her in the center seat, she's already been absorbed. She's already been absorbed into the mass.

She's part of woman number one now. She's even fatter. She's got that elbow thing where the fat hangs over the elbow part so that she doesn't have an elbow anymore. There's just fat hanging from here and from here, so it's just a hole where her elbow is. Yeah, there's that buried recess where you know the elbow goes. That's where bones are.

Yeah, right? She can't bump her elbow. It's cushioned. She must have been so uncomfortable she was smiling the whole trip she was jovial the whole trip and when it was time to get off and my back was hurting so much i just stood up and stood there for maybe the last eight or ten minutes of you know sitting at the runway she just sat there and had no issues with it but that poor woman next to her could have been me it could have been me i walked

past two fatties on the way to her i was sandwiched in between them and i'm trying to count rows in my head i'm like uh 30 that looks like 42 rows yeah yeah oh god what is that thing there's a ham beast and 42 42 a the gravity alone might suck me in. But she was gargantuan, and she was in coach, and that's got to be the worst thing if you're overweight, to fly in coach.

I would hate that so much. I can just imagine the... For me, if I were 300... It'd be embarrassing. I feel like the night before even, I'm just stressed out. I'm like, tomorrow's the day tomorrow's when it happens i gotta fucking get on that plane god i hope that the guy next to me is

small god i hope he doesn't get upset uh you know it would just be terrible it would it would be it'd be weighing on me and then every step i two tickets which i mean i think that's what a lot of people do right i i think i think so i've heard about that i've never seen it in practice but my question would be with that is like wouldn't a first class ticket be better like it is like if you're doubling um yeah that's a good point why not just get a first class ticket and then you have that little divider between you and the next person you can spill wherever you need yeah yeah. I'm a big fan of first class. If you have the means,

I highly suggest you travel that way. If you have the means. Ferris Bueller reference. But yeah, yeah, I really dig it. First class is the way to go. I've flown first class a lot. I've flown first class more than coach. And usually there's a way to make it make sense.

Like if I've got a lot of luggage to take, when we go to Texas I'm packing for like six or seven days and I got like drones and camera equipment and a gun or two and they're on the bags and And in that scenario it just makes sense to fly first class because to check bags for free is another 50 bucks and then Just makes sense so i usually fly first class um but god i hate coach i and i i hate the fatties who inflict themselves on the others than coach take a bus you want any time take a bus anything fucking take a page out of chiz's book just hop on a rickshaw and away you go rickshaw away yes

chiz is the king of alternate travel methods. I'm starting to dig it. I think next time, if there's a thing that me and Chiz are going to do together, I'm going to look into getting in on that with him. I'd like to go on a train ride with Chiz. I'm not getting on a bus with you. I'm not great rounding it up with bus folk. They'll take one look at my shattered screen Samsung Alpha,

and they'll be just trying to beat me to death just to take it. I feel like bus folk, every item they see, they don't see it as money. They see it as how many crack rocks they could afford from selling it. That's three crack rocks. And so they just incentive. Yep, that's three crack rocks. Taylor. Give me that broken.

Yeah. Have you ever witnessed someone that made you realize he or she is really, really smart? I mean, yeah. Tell a story. I took it as smarter than you or smarter than me for me telling the story. I don't know. I think a good example would be years ago. I think he died in 2011 but Christopher Hitchens he is it was not so much like him being

like all his ideas being great and him being intrinsically brilliant it was the way that he articulated himself and the way he could phrase himself and his speech is so convincing and so articulate and you know eloquent that I watched that and I'm like wow like I hope someday I can speak like that guy just like he's so he was so fast off the cuff and not just with like a quip or something. He was like, someone could make an argument against him and it's like, oh, that's, that's actually a decent point, uh, on some things. And then he would come back with, you know, a multifaceted retort and it's like, wow, that's, that's crazy. But you don't have anyone from your like personal experiences you're

like oh yeah yeah i guess einstein maybe maybe neil tyson degrasse yeah oh uh personally i i'd have to think about it i mean of course i've met plenty of people way smarter than me i just none of them have been like uh i'm walking into class and i see joe that i underestimated finishing an equation that was formerly onolvable on the board. Got a real goodwill hunting scenario over there with Joe, I think. We're going to take him to CIA and see if we can profit from this. I wish I could think of specific examples. I remember when I met Taylor for the first time, I thought, wow, Taylor's a really bright guy.

Taylor's one of the smartest people I know. Oh, that's nice of you. Yeah, yeah, you're a very bright guy. Taylor's one of the smartest people I know. Oh, that's nice of you. Yeah, you're a very bright guy. And bright is the word I would use because you're spontaneously intelligent, if that makes any sense. You can be intelligent about just about anything given a little bit of time and resources.

You're a bright guy. I remember recognizing that immediately when I met Taylor. And I tell people often, Taylor's one of the smartest guys I know. I think you are. Thank you. Very funny guy, too. Taylor's just multi-faceted, multi-talented. Great guy. So good. So good. I'm so glad I got worked into this answer.

Are you digging this? I can keep going. Don't stop. No new topics, Woody. I've grown in my later years to think of intelligence differently than I used to. Right?

Like I used to just do like who did well in school, you know, and that was a way that I measured intelligence. Now it's a little different than that. I worked with a guy. I've talked about it before. Patavi Srinivasan. So much better at coding than me. And I was good. Right?

I was better than almost everyone at Cisco. And a lot of people liked me more than Patavi for their projects because I got shit done. Use your email to remember. What's that? I said, use your email to remember. How the fuck do you spell Patavi? Fuck it. Just email me.

Just get Woody. Yeah. She's wrote Hypercube guy in the thing. Yeah. That's the guy. I was working on this Hypercube routing. I was working on fault-tolerant Hypercube routing algorithm for um he's not even close for uh for my master's degree and i i wrote it i was proud of it i showed it to him he wrote it faster and better than i did and uh and i felt like there

wasn't another person on the floor who could write it at all and and patali stop it with the fucking thing stop it um so uh uh anyway he's much smarter than me but like there's other aspects of smart like like you know kyle for example i talk about him in his video ideas all the time he's like much better at that and i don't think patabi would be any good at that at all i think that activity is what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, and then there's like a musical kind of intelligence and then there's like a... That's a good distinction. There's an EQ, right? Like there are people who just relate well to other people and it's like magic, right? Yeah. I feel like that's what I'm best at. Like, you always talk about the video ideas and I think I am good at coming up with little ideas and just kind of think about silly things to do all the time. Like I made a little bomb

the other day and threw up on the roof to scare the guys. But EQ I feel like I'm really good at. I feel like I'm good at self analyzing myself and figuring out why I do the things that I do and why I feel the way I do about things and sometimes it's not a pretty picture to like turn that light on yourself

and to realize ah this is your own insecurity eating at you. That's why you're mad right now. That's what that is. That pretty picture to like turn that light on yourself um and to realize oh this is your own insecurity eating at you that's why you're mad right now that's what that is that anger right here that's you not liking you it ain't got nothing to do with that motherfucker cut him a break and i can do that and i can turn that around also and like look at other people and be like oh he's not mad at me he's mad about his own failings I I can I feel I'm good at analyzing people and kind of seeing where they're coming from and why and sometimes without very much input so like an interpersonal intelligence like

emotional yeah the day that you make your videos I've been told from even multiple sources that you could be a grumpy guy I think you've told me that too I will be on making videos that I feel are much lower pressure. Like remember those woody Wednesdays where I sat in a chair with a fire behind me during that filming process. I'm hard to get along with because like, I, I'm not sure what I'm going to say. And then Jackie might say the wrong thing. Like, what, you weren't ready for this? No, it all seemed so set. I had all my bullet points.

I said it in my head and it kept going great. But when it comes to doing it as like a one take or something, that pressure is huge on me and it's rough. And, you know, and like you said, it's my own insecurity that like, oh man, I thought I had all my act together on this. And now I don't. And by the way, handling all my own lighting and camera work and shit like that really adds to the distraction of nailing the part that I'm supposed to do well. But, yeah, when it comes to intelligent people, I've just started to realize like, wow, you know, it's not just IQ as a measure. Like there's a whole lot of ways in which people make themselves valuable that aren't just

IQ. And there's all kinds of intelligence. Creativity, music, humor. You know those spider web graphs you see on video games for how good a character is? Where it's really high up and it's strength. And then stamina's a little lower. And then speed.

Oh, that's shit. That's how intelligence is. For me, my art intelligence, it's like you know for me my art intelligence it doesn't even come off of the side like it's not there's no peak there it's just a flat line between two other points yeah it's a divot it actually subtracts from other areas

pulls from that to try and compensate a black hole of talent somehow his strength is held back by his art yeah makes you weaker yeah i um right and i like i don't like to think i think i'm on above average of intelligence right i think i understand things a lot i think we all are lately yeah if we're talking about above average you gotta keep in mind most of them people out there are fucking dumb dumbs that can't even

like god for them i talked to one the other day was like, at the gas station, she's like, I walk in the gas station. Excuse me, maybe you could help me. And I'm like, I'll try. She says, which one's unleaded? I look outside, I'm like, well, they're all unleaded. Those numbers out there about the octane rating, it has to do with the tuning of your engine and the pressures.

You know, lower octanes, sometimes they explode under high pressure. Some of these newer fancy engines, especially octanes or sometimes they explode under high pressure. Some of these newer fancy engines, especially in sports cars, are running high pressure and you could have the premature detonation, messes things up, your car's skipping, it's having issues. She's like, but what kind of gas do I put in that car? And I'm like, the cheapest fucking one. Have you ever filled up before?

Like, do you not? What do you do with the other gas station choose from Jersey see if you're in New Jersey the state government there has they didn't just decide they made a law they knew that their citizens couldn't

be trusted if you will to operate a gasoline pump it is dangerous yeah it's the least dangerous thing when i see those gasoline uh station accidents where like here's what happens and if you're ever if you're out there people keep a cool head i don't understand this i don't panic in situations like this ever if somehow that pump that's in your car ignites, what you've got right now is gasoline fumes

making a little fire there. They're being fed by the fact that you're continually pumping more fuel in there and expelling those gases. If you just turn the thing off and walk away, by the time you get back from paying for that gas, your paint job might be messed up a little bit, but everything will still be there. If you pull that motherfucker out, it's game over, bro. We're all gonna die like you're probably gonna spray yourself the car and it's a flamethrower but a real bad one

most people wouldn't do that like most people would yank it out right away because that's that's the common sense thing to do like that's what most people when they run off the road immediately jerk back with all everything they have too and that's that's another thing that's dumb that's not good that's how you flip. That's how you flip yourself. That's how you flip yourself. Especially on Stinks4Made. I feel like that we are much more intelligent than the average person.

In one way or another. We're at least competent. Most people can't put on fucking deodorant and brush their teeth and shit, man. I like Taylor's spider web of skill and strengths. I don't completely concede the intelligence thing. I think I've proven

my mettle there, but there are other areas in which I succeed, too, that I think make me a good guy. Yeah. Intelligence is a weird thing to wrap your head around, because some guys know a lot of stuff, and some guys can learn stuff quickly, and some guys just seem to... Well, I guess that's it. Some guys can pick a thing up and just all of a sudden have it stuff and some guys can learn stuff quickly and some guys just seem to uh well i

guess that's it you know some guys can pick a thing up and just all of a sudden have it and some guys have just collected knowledge for so long and they can maintain it if you're the guy who can learn something and now you have it forever that's a whole different talent so yeah it could be weird sometimes you can think i meet people all the time that are not doing great for themselves but they're bright people. They're smart. They've got a good sense of humor. And then I meet some people who are doing really well,

and they're just real fucking dum-dums who have been put in a fucking position they shouldn't be. They're just scheduling stuff for people, flights and things. Hypothetically. Yeah, yeah. I can only imagine that that some sort of i'm not gonna do you find that you tend to lend more credence to the areas of intelligence that you personally are good at like for me like if i if someone's funny or clever or like witty

i'm always like that's a bright guy what a genius smart absolutely you know because it depends about his sense of humor because sometimes you meet somebody who's just a walking meme generator slash like they they just they can they they and i do this a little bit like i've memorized so many punch lines from so many movies and so many comedians that sometimes you'll give me the first half of the joke not unwillingly and i've already got it there's that guy but then there's the guy who's just funny to talk to who's just constantly like telling a joke that he just made up on the spot and it's not a knock knock who's there kind of thing it's it's just it's a funny story with a with a nice twist and he and you do this really well we keep going back to kissing your ass this

is going to be but uh but uh but you did that very well here We keep going back to kissing your ass. But you did that very well. I like your... You're like, oh. I like that you didn't even... Don't let me stop you. At no point were you like, oh, no, don't do that. Oh, not me.

No, no, at this point, I'm just going to bask in it. Just going to let this happen. Hopefully this is included in the best of when someone makes that. Or it's the only best of. We're going to release it on a DVD just us kissing your ass for 20 minutes I was saying it like not just to say like oh I

lend more credence that's probably appropriate to someone who's clever but I don't give enough credence in other areas where someone who like like Mozart who wrote a bunch of music and was just out of his mind smart I'll look at that and because I can't empathize because I don't have those abilities I'm like I just banging on keys what's he doing like oh oh this guy like something you know if a million monkeys typed a million i'm the opposite i'm the opposite dude when i see a guy who can like play an instrument well like like especially like in real life it's like he's a magician like how the fuck did you get that to do that i have tried so hard to be i i work at

things harder than most right i'm not easily denied success at stuff i have worked harder at the guitar than i than i talk about the rapist creed i i i'm not built to be good at guitar i suck so hard and i think I always will. And then there's the, like, I see people speak multiple languages. Or I see, like, the things that people are good at that plug holes in me, those I think really highly of. I can't play the guitar. My fingers do this lock and pop thing with the gross.

Oh, tell me about it. I can't even control my fingers. I have to play left-handed. Really? Tell me more about your fingers. Oh, I can't even, like, hold them together. Disgusting. I'm trying to...

Watch this. Watch it, watch it like... Like, I'll keep adding... I'm adding pressure, like, more and more and more, more and more and more and more and more and more, and it, like, snaps. Really? So your fingers are almost like a mouse trap

yeah where it's just a critical mass of tension is reached and then there's no control just close they're not extra limber chairs no that is it's because all right so you know when you're playing a guitar you got to be over here like this and i have a real hard time doing that it looks like guitar in in my case when you play piano you go like this the distance between these fingers i can't alter that right so if you were to do when you play the drums so you can't you can't you can't do this number i can't no i am on both hands just the one or just the one which is why i play left-handed so so i make this my picking hand and then i play right-handed but that that

adds another like everything all the the tablature that you like get mostly you have to translate it in your head as you're going to like mirror it and it just it adds a level of complexity but i know that there's someone out there is going to say no you can get left-handed tablature kind of like you like a third of it comes left-handed so now like it's like dude no i'll just learn to mirror it because flipping back and forth is even harder on me and uh yeah it's i suck at it so so here's what i the only thing that even comes close to a musical instrument that i'm good at good at is a keyboard i We all are here, right? We can all type. It requires no thought.

I can translate your words into text without my brain doing anything, seemingly. I don't have to think about that. My fingers just know where the fucking home row keys get on the home row keys, and we know where all the alphabet is. I feel like that's somewhat like a musical instrument. I feel like I can type as well as

a bad guitar player can play guitar. At least. But I played them... My dad is very good at this. Like this is an area that I did not inherit at all somehow. His grandma taught him to play the guitar at a young age and once he learned

the basics of music, it just kind of makes sense to him. The notes. He doesn't know what he's doing necessarily, but he can pick up virtually any instrument and kind of play it. He's not over there playing the saxophone, don't get me wrong. But anything with strings, he can pick up and kind of mess with for a minute, and then just be like once you've mastered spanish you know granted

it's because these are all romantic languages but once you've mastered spanish you know if that took you a year to get good at it italian's gonna take you a couple months and then you know french is gonna take you even less time and then that's something that's super impressive to me and i think incredibly highly of people who can speak like four languages i can't even imagine that having i think the ability to like a tran i guess a translator like that entire thing of like listening to something in a different language who's in my head god i could be wrong i thought she spoke like slovakian or wherever she's from slovenian i think she's from slovenia i think i thought she only spoke too but i could could be wrong. Oh, maybe this is it. His son speaks two.

His son with her, he speaks Slovenian and English. That's where I was getting at, yeah. I'm thinking more like three or four languages. A lot of people speak two, but if I talk to someone, not to say that's not impressive, I only speak one, but if someone tells me like, oh yeah, I speak English, French, German,

Italian, it's like, wow, this, I speak English, French, German, Italian, it's like, wow, this person, they've got to have a lot of conjugations and shit going on in their head and tenses and, I don't know, it seems hard. Very difficult. I knew a guy, my roommate that I had when I was 19, he was from Lithuania, and so he spoke Polish and Russian and Lithuanian and at least and one more and English and then maybe one more I think it was five languages total but if you think about

it many of those languages are very similar Russian and Lithuanian are very close to the point where like I'll be watching a movie and I'll hear them say and I know what they're saying or if they're saying is either fuck you I think nakwe is maybe fuck

something like that so i'll wreck i'll pick those words out every now and then i think if i want to ask you what time it is it's like man patinka alus ekhnak no no no yeah it's man patinka alus i think that's how you ask what time it is but like hanging out with him like they would they would speak lithuanian in private when they argued so i can remember being like on the porch like off hanging off of our apartment and we're just drunk as shit drinking and smoking cigarettes and sitting out there and all of a sudden they get a little argument in english and then all of a sudden it would it would change the lithuanian and i would just be sitting there like and they would apologize like my friend would be like sorry kyle but we're gonna have to do this in Lithuanian.

And then they just fucking, like, a thousand miles an hour because the second one, his English was, he was like 90% effective at English. Let's put his English rating at there. Although I don't know if all of us are, I know some people that are Americans who haven't quite gotten to 95%. You think I should do an ad here?

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Be professional right out of the gate. Mm-hmm. And I believe I have one more here. Total Warhammer, right? What is Total Warhammer? Excuse me. What is Total War Warhammer? It's a fantasy strategy... Right? Start over.

Yeah. What is Total War Warhammer? It's a fantasy strategy game of legendary proportions total war warhammer combines an addictive turn-based campaign of conquest and empire building with explosive colossal real-life battles all set in the vivid incredible world of warhammer fantasy battles some um it's the perfect match uh excuse me battles. It's the perfect match. Excuse me. Oh, it's the perfect match. Total War Warhammer is a marriage made in gaming heaven. Warhammer is a rich, high fantasy world of perpetual war and massive battles. It's a critically acclaimed epic scale conquest based strategy game. It's gorgeous, high fantasy world of perpetual war and conquest on a colossal scale brought to you this is a little repetitive here um two epic fantasy i'm sorry chiz i'm really just butchering your ad read here i am going to read this ad and i'm going to beat kyle at ad reading man okay go for it i want to see it because it's a bit

confusing the way it's uh formatted all right i I might be full of shit, but here we go. What is Total War Warhammer? Someone put their mouse over it and covered the words immediately. Who is that? Who's the fucking green llama? Who's the green llama that covered the words? It's not me. I'm not even a doctor.

What is Total War Warhammer? It's a fantasy strategy game of legendary proportions. Total War Warhammer combines an addictive turn-based campaign of conquest and empire building with explosive, colossal real-time battles all set in the vivid and incredible world of Warhammer Fantasy Battles. Some things you should know about this incredible game. One, it's the perfect match. Total War Warhammer is a marriage made in gaming heaven.

Warhammer is a rich, high-f high fantasy world of perpetual war and massive battles. Total War is a critically acclaimed epic scale conquest based strategy game. Total War plus Warhammer is a gorgeous high fantasy world of perpetual war and conquest on a colossal scale brought to life in hours and hours of gripping strategy gameplay. Epic fantasy Total War war style no one's done warhammer or even fantasy like this before from personal skills of characters to 20 000 roaring orcs no fantasy strategy game is this big and detailed as a fantasy spectacle it is unmatched if you're a pc gamer and not involved you're missing out factions that all feel and

play differently. Each race is wholly different with their own unique characters, campaign mechanics, battlefield units, and play style. Select between valiant men of the empire and vengeful dwarfs, the murderous vampire counts are brutal orcs and goblins of the green-skinned tribes. The game is very deep, but the gameplay is simplified, accessible to anyone, and everyone wanting to stick their toe in the waters of total war warhammer it's clear and intuitive ui you'll begin stomping on your foes in no time but that's enough rambling check out total war warhammer for yourselves today

the game releases on pc and steam on tuesday may 24th 2016 so check it out thank you i use steam now i'm gonna check that out i didn't know how great steam was until i tried making it or until i signed up and downloaded age of mythology but this is a great service it's no wonder people i don't understand all the jokes of like oh man i spent 10 grand on my steam account i haven't played any games like that's just foolish that's that's silly but so maybe i'm speaking out of turn. I haven't spent a bunch of money, but I was fortunate enough because of our kind fans that they all went and my Steam ID is OFPSKyleO,

and they gifted me so many games. So, so many games. A couple hundred dollars worth of games. Like various people over the last year or so. So I've got... I have lots and lots of games that I've never played, and lots of games that I have played, thanks to the kindness of strangers. Company of Heroes, someone gifted to us.

If you're out there and you gifted us that game, get back in touch with me on Steam. Yeah, let us know, man. Because I'd like to play with you some. I just lost touch with you and don't have your contact stuff on Steam and everything. But I really do appreciate those codes for the game that you won at that tournament or whatever. And we're loving the game. I'm definitely – I'm really loving the game. I'm into it.

Do you still play with Sour? Yeah. Does he like buy every game you buy and just like stay in the group? Yeah. How big would you say that group is? Like – Eight people. Eight people-ish.

And then there's others that come and go by game. Yeah, it's a revolving door door but it's like the same core. Yeah, we see that same handful of names repetitively. Maybe five guys is a better number. There's like, I won't start naming names but yeah, there's a little core group of guys

that come from game to game but there must be another hundred who want to play a game with me, who message me all the time and we just miss each other because of our schedules, or they're always playing a COD game or something like that, and I'm always on RTS. But yeah, lots of the PKA guys get on there.

I joined the PKA Steam group the other day that just started up. I think I'm in that now. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I think that'll be a good way for us to get together with players and play games. But yeah, Steam is great. I haven't talked to Sour in a while, but I really like that guy. I hope that he gets whatever he wants in life.

Achieves whatever he defines success as. Like crushing ad reads. Crushing ad reads? Yeah, something about the way that was written. There's a part where there's two or three different fonts, and I took the first font that's small. It said, some things you need to know about this game.

I thought that was a little note from Chiz to me, and I was like, okay, so here are some things that I need to know. In my head, I'm like, shit, he didn't give me an ad read. I gotta paraphrase this and tell him what I'm... give my impressions from this read live or something, and it really threw me off as i was reading it i benefited from the fact that you found the tripping points already like total war warhammer

for example isn't an easy like it doesn't roll off the tongue for me kyle stormed the beach and you came up and took the bunker yeah and then you know he's like this seems a little repetitive and i'm like like oh that's the part yeah just keep you know he's like this seems a little repetitive and i'm like like oh that's the part yeah just keep going keep flowing what do you keep flowing you know repetitive or not you know all these words just say them out loud in the right order and you'll be okay i like how you're describing this with the same fervor that like eminem does an eight mile when he's spitting just off the top of his head and you're reading an ad like oh it's going swimmingly so far i know that word i know that word oh i know that word three syllables each shit i know that one like

dude i want to i was watching my pka 178 rap like i worked it into i do these time lapses in my vlogs and i put them to music and uh everyone fusses about my music i I do my very best. And I'm like, you know what? I've got a couple songs in my own library. So I took the PKA 178 intro rap that I made. Kyle, do you remember that? PKA 178 intro rap. Yeah. You know, Woody, I'm going to be 100% honest with you here.

You're saying it. You like this one. It's so. You said, yeah, I like that at the end of it. Because I'm an entertainer i lied i don't um i let's have a throwback then because i'm maybe i'm not recalling it well i'd like to listen to it well that's a lie but i'd like to know what you're talking about and that might entail listening to the song all right all right so here's the thing it's it's the very beginning

so you don't have to wait much and um uh we'll just listen to it i think it lasts about a minute minute and a half oh let me flip over to the so people can see it ready set play just wait i'm not bad i'm on the front page of reddit welcome to the show this is gonna be great it's pka 178 lefties on the mic some say he's a racist he told me himself let's get back to the basics black asian or crazy gypsy he kills up quickly and chugs down his whiskey next is a man known This is the worst part. Woody's gamer tag I'm fucking awesome but I don't like to brag He's a pedo This is the worst part Sorry haters the body's never found

Topics are sterling and mass genocide We won't share it all And we will misguide Our opinions are silly Our stats are invented Our stories are crazy Our thoughts are demented Hold on tight and get yourself ready

The gang's all here This is painkiller already oh yeah i like that all right we can stop here come on i mean honestly compared to your uh the music video like the noob tube one that was that was brilliant compared to that the noob tube one was good i think you might be thinking of um the bon jovi one that might be it i don't recall but one of those i'm your daddy and you're in my crosshairs it legitimately took me and this came out like five years ago i had the i i got to like 90 seconds in like four times in that video before i'd be like oh my god no i can't even do this I can't even do this. I can't even do this. Like, Woody's one of my friends

and oh my god. I think if you google most epic commentary ever, it still comes up first. Oh, I'm sure it does. You know, you cornered that market. It does. But yeah, that was much better, but you know, Kyle is very clearly not a fan.

I'm sorry, I'm on the front page of Reddit. I was just saying what that was about. But no, I like that song a lot. Oh, you're on the front page of Reddit for something? Yeah, an old clip. But yeah, after getting a refresher on that, that was good. You're absolutely right.

It wasn't bad. That is your best singing performance ever, and I don't even mean by, not by a little, by like, wider than my arms will go, because most of your singing is so bad. And it makes me cringe so hard. And you try...

So we've all got notes we can't hit. I'm not fucking Pavarotti over here, alright? But you gotta smooth that shit over and lower that shit down to another note. Like if you can't hit that high note, you gotta come on down here for a little bit. You hit them hard. You don't't care your voice will break and you'll just give it more more like more oomph you'll you're like my voice is breaking my diaphragm must must just need more

pressure maybe i can will the sound into being through sheer force of will i will make this song you are the first singer in the world but um that was very that was great i want to get that guy who's the guy who like he was willing to be on the show he was the rap battle champion white guy from philly do you guys know who i'm talking about i don't know he participates in these rap battles all the time a white guy from Philly. I bet I can find his name in a hurry. If she just doesn't know it, he's not typing it. He's the guy. Do you remember when he tore down that guy for being fat? Yes. Yeah.

That guy. Mackley? No. I don't remember. Rat battle fat jokes. I bet he comes up near the top. Roan, I think, is his name. We were going to get Roan on the show for a while.

It looks like she was found at first. And, dude, I'm like, when he comes, I'm going to have some prepared rhymes. Take that guy on. It would be fun. But he keeps, like, I don't know, something happened with scheduling. I think he agreed in context, and he just like sort of falls off the radar for a bit. And we haven't asked him for a while,

but I want to take on Rome. I don't think I'd ever heard that rapping before. And it's far and away your best musical endeavor. So good. In fact, I'd say we just label it your coup de grace and you leave that part of yourself in the past entirely never to revisit i have more to offer this world not musically honestly any all that you would be doing is like what m night shamalan did where he

came out with a couple things everybody loved him and then he just drilled it into the ground his new movie has good reviews. Does it? Well, my whole point's fucking ruined. Not good reviews. It has okay reviews, and they're better than they've been in a long time. It's called The Visit, I think. Oh, my God. I haven't seen it.

Does it have a twist by chance? The Visit, I think. Thank you, Chiz. I was right. But, yeah, Shyamalan really... So, he was on the cover of Time, I think. You know, next Spielberg, question mark? I remember that, yeah.

Time magazine should just... They forever lost credibility after some shit like that, right? That was embarrassing. So, Sixth Sense is excellent. Unbreakable is very good. After that, I have a hard time getting on board with anything. Signs I liked. Oh, yeah, thank you.

Signs. I feel like Signs is good. I don't know what doesn't make it very good i guess maybe the plot holes your opinion is the plot holes are bad but it's also the fact that like i feel like you have a distorted perception of signs because it's like six cents it's objectively a good movie i think is not a stretch to say most people like that movie movie. It's good. Like that twist at the end, you're like, you can see it coming, but it's still there. I didn't, yeah. Signs only looks good when you compare it against like Lady in the Water and all that nonsense he made in later years.

And you can look back and be like, oh, he was good in the Sixth Sense Signs days. But if you go back and watch Signs again, you will be very disappointed. It's not a good movie. I'll have to do that because I remember Signs highly. And as I watched everything come together, like the glasses, the baseball, the failed baseball, everything comes together. And I'm like, oh, this guy has been laying out clues for me for the last hour and a half. And now the notion is like everything happens

for a reason and everything seemed to suck until that day in which all these things came together to be very important it's the water thing though like that's all it takes to make the movie stupid like it's and you're right he does

lay out clues but when it gets to the end and the crux of the matter is, spoiler alert, oh, the aliens, they never foresaw that the most abundant compound on our planet is actually death to them. It makes so little sense that it doesn't make sense why they couldn't just manufacture some other reason. Or wear some clothes when they came. How about a rain jacket before you invade Earth? That would have solved the whole problem. You put a rain slicker on that alien and give him a stick and he is infinitely

more lethal. The aliens were bad. Shyamalan was great with everything he did. I love the religious stuff. I love that this never lose your face kind of thing with Gibson. Joaquin Phoenixoenix was amazing both of those child actors one of them is macaulay culkin's brother by the way excellent lots of

great acting in that movie um but man there's something about the what just do the aliens different or like make them they just needed to be better and different and i think that he just wasn't good at that they seemed almost like anthought. I feel like they were making this great movie and they just kept making it and kept making it. At the end they were like, well yeah, we'll have some CGI aliens at the end. They're going to be super scary. It just never came together. I had no problem with how the aliens looked. I thought that

when Joaquin Phoenix is watching the news and he's watching Telemundo or something. He's watching some Mexican broadcasting film. Telemundo. You can see the alien in the back. He's like, Vaman or something. He's watching some Mexican broadcasting film. Telemundo. Yeah, and you can see the alien kind of in the back. He's like, vamonos, children, vamonos. He's trying to see what's going on, and that alien kind of like,

it's like walking, and they freeze frame. It's just like, doing one of those. I was like, shit, those are what's coming? Fuck. Fuck. That's bad. They're scary aliens and i already have that phobia of like gray mint you know the classic aliens that are like big heads gray skinned and with the big eyes from

watching all those movies when i was a kid so that was scary for me but you know they're allergic to water so much so that it's like they're there is nothing you can pour on a human being that'll burn them like that that you would just keep in a room. Like, I don't know if you've ever – I got battery acid on me the other day. It didn't burn. I washed it. I was like, oh, look at this. I got battery acid all over me.

I'm going to walk nonchalantly to the sink and shh, now it's gone. That's how battery acid is. You've got to wait for, you know know 10 or 15 or 20 seconds before it starts hurting or starts really doing anything these things got a little water on them and they're just like like they're it was like they were made out of baking soda and someone was throwing vinegar at them or something it was they're reacting to it and it's like wasn't there enough water vapor in the air like if i put a cold drink right here it's gonna be sweating in a minute if they're if they're that allergic to water

then presumably just breathing our air is like breathing poison constantly it's because there's like a suspension of disbelief that you give movies but if it's too ridiculous that even a layman can look at like you know when you watch a movie about hacking you can kind of distance yourself and be like

you know when the lady's like we gotta find a way into the mainframe past the O code. Oh, do you have the coordinates? Yeah, I'm locking in now. You're like, okay, that's not how fucking tech support works, but whatever. But with this, you see water and it's so glaringly obvious right in your face

that you can't ignore it. You can't. You can't ignore it and still have a good time. I think anyone who's knowledgeable about a subject or a topic, when they see it portrayed in the movies incorrectly, it can do that. Guns are a big thing like that for me. When I see a movie that handles guns very well, like John Wick, I'm really down. There was only maybe one or two scenes in John Wick that I thought were a little meh.

I didn't feel like he had enough recoil in his shotgun when he shot it. Other than that, it's perfect. He's reloading when he's supposed to. Annoying as far as those experts go uh neil degrasse tyson tweeting about like nonsense like actually in gravity you would have seen uh venus in a different point in the sky and what what it all comes out of is we're all star stuff. And it's like, we get it. You're real, real bright. Like, come on. I think you're reading him all wrong. So I think Tyson, let's call him Tyson

from now on. I think that's easier. Neil Degrassi, Tyson. How about this Neil? Neil. This is another guy. We already have a Tyson. So the black science guy, his thing is all about exposing the masses to space and science and all that stuff.

He's purposefully skipping over those of us who are probably already into it anyway. I love space. I'm so interested in it. If I could just like... If you give me a wish to do anything, it's astronaut. It's astronaut every fucking time. I would love to be up there doing that. I would love it. It would be incredible

to be on the edge of pioneering. My father would warn you not to be a space pioneer. I would love to be a space pioneer. I'd do that shit in a heartbeat. Let's go. Some space pussy, it'd be great. Space pussy. Yeah, space pussy. I imagine you blow a load

in space and zero G and just floating around like a little snowstorm inside the capsule after a while he just i really made a mistake here i feel like sneezing would get out of control real quick on a space station too because that's something that's not like like it's a joke of like oh you know beating off all over the place but what if a sneeze sneaks out just because some Because some people do it in twos. You net those boogers and go about your day, right? I don't know.

Does that propulsion stick around? Let's say that it goes, whatever, 120 miles an hour and sneezes. Does that just continue in space until it hits the far wall? I don't know. Well, the atmosphere in the space station, it'd wall? I don't know. Well, the atmosphere in the space station, it'd be like being

in a plane. So if you sneeze in the plane, the sneeze doesn't go, like, it'd hit you in the face when you're sitting there in your seat, like, because it's a contained, you know, not affected by the external world atmosphere. I think what you're suggesting, Woody, is what if you sneezed in space, would the boogers continue on

forever? Yeah, what's to slow it down, right? The only thing to slow it down are like little space particles that are just out there, you know, not too many of them. Or if it hits something. Yeah, that booger will fly forever. It'll probably get caught into the gravitational field of something else and end up being another little satellite around the planet out there. If I throw a baseball on Earth, eventually the dense atmosphere and gravity will slow it down and pull it to Earth, right? It's how hard you throw it.

I'm not that good at it. Eventually it will happen, yeah. So if I throw a baseball in space, like let's just say we open the doors of the space shuttle and I'm outside throwing it as hard as I can, I think that thing soars for a long time. Until it hits something. Yeah.

I don't think space is it. There's something in there. There's little space particles and shit flowing around. Yeah, there's little space particles, but things will just slow down. Just barely. But then gravity's out there pulling. I think the gravitational fields out there. I think Kyle in this hypothetical spaceship coming and

sneezing everywhere is just going to leave the walls a wreck. No, it'd float around. It'd be all... It'd just be floating around. Why would it stop? Because it hit the inside of the spacecraft. Oh, you think it wouldn't stick to the wall?

Yeah, I guess it would stick to the wall if it ever hit the wall you know i'm just gonna why wouldn't it just travel to the nearest wall i don't know what do you i want to live in a snow globe full of cum that's why just just just go with it okay all right now we're on the same page i mean that's what we all want really just floating around everywhere yeah no no i don't know. Now that you say it, I share the same dream, Kyle. I wonder if there is a station

where astronauts can masturbate because there's no way they're allowed to just be fucking up there. Although, like, they couldn't stop you. They couldn't be like, hey, you two, cut it out.

You know, you're like, I'm a million miles away. We're going to send another shuttle? I feel like if you're in NASA, everybody knows. I feel like if you're in NASA, everybody knows. I feel like if you're in NASA, you're like, oh, yeah, back in the 80s when they put women on every fucking ship. Why do you think that was? What kind of experiments do you think we were running up there? Back in the 90s when this happened, like, oh, yeah, first guy to jack off, that was Neil.

Second guy to fuck, that was Betsy and Lewis. First guy to jack off, that was Neil. Second guy to fuck, that was Betsy and Louis. First guy to jack off is probably that monkey. He probably made it about halfway through the process. God damn it, Bobo's masturbating again. He broke out of his chains, god damn it. We need one monkey and you pick the masturbator. I wouldn't bet against that. That's great.

We know he's a bit of a renegade, but no one's matched those scores. You ready for your topic? Yeah. I'm sorry. I cut off all the Taylor masturbatory monkey talk. This one's caught my attention. You guys heard me say earlier the patreon levels one of them asks

questions and what does it mean to be a man what are some things all men should know how to do something about the first half of that question what it means to be a man and I don't know that I crush it on this but there's a certain amount of self-reliance

that to me defines manhood, right? And that can be self-reliance in our real world having to do with like supporting yourself and being your own guy and not depending on someone else to be you. And, or, you know, it could be some other thing. Like accountability, dropping some guy in almost any environment

and they're being capable of dealing with it to me is like a part of manhood right you know if your freaking luggage is lost and you're a helpless little bitch then i'm dinging your manhood i'm pulling your man card on that um you should be able to you know to like figure out your way through the world. I agree with much of that. I think it goes beyond what you can do. And I lost my whole train of thought. God damn it. No. A man wouldn't have.

So I was talking about being lost. I was talking about self-reliance. I was talking about not depending on other people. It's taking personal responsibility for things. It's manning up to things, if you will. Okay. I think that's a big one. I think it's someone who can admit up to things if you will okay um i i think that's a big one i think it's someone who can uh who can admit their when they've done wrong who can admit when they're when they are

wrong yeah that's i think that's a little bit of a part of it um some for some reason i feel like there's some things you need to be able just be able to do like you should be able to change your own fucking tire like there's no excuse for you being like getting a flat and being like oh i hope i can call some nice strong man to help me like like because that's what a lot of you people out there do that's not necessarily like a skill anymore though you can just google that wherever you are like you know like you don't have to know how to change a tire in the moment like i have before and i didn't I didn't have to Google it, but if you need to, like... I don't know, man. I think there's a lot of people that if you put them out there for the first

time doing it, they really struggle, and it might take them an hour to change a tire, and then they might die because they didn't get it back on all the way. Yeah, or they get hit while on their side of the road. That's much, much more likely. That happens. Well, I think manhood all comes down to bacon and Old Spice and The Expendables 3 and, you know, everything else that's sold to us. I don't know. way yeah well i think manhood all comes down to bacon and old spice and the expendables three

and you know everything else that's sold to us i don't know i totally agree with you it's just it really comes down to accountability i think and uh i guess like autonomy in your emotions if that makes sense an ability to you know take some shit or a bad external situation and not immediately let it impact you and kind of be like all right let's slow this down let's make a plan and move from here you know not letting yourself get too flustered if that makes sense but you know that's not to say that if something shitty happens and you get flustered you're suddenly not masculine or something nobody's perfect all the time but it's just the way you handle problems, I would think. I really think of

people who have manned up in situations, like guys who have gotten girls pregnant at a young age, and we're like, oh, time to throw away the baseball glove and bat, because it's time to be a man now. It's like no more games, and that's what I've been avoiding my whole fucking life,

because I've seen it. That sounds've seen horrible right i'll never forget my uh my brother-in-law like got my uh half sister knocked up when she was like 18 or 19 or something like that and it was like i didn't go to the wedding but i saw the wedding photos and we were talking about and i was just like even as a kid then and i mean i was 12 i was like his shit is ruined he's fucked he's fucked now he is he's about to have twins he's 18 he's got nothing to his name he's lucky enough that his father um has this business that maybe he can intern at some and learn his and like work his way up the ladder but he's got nothing and he worked his ass off he worked hard i've told the story before. He got multiple jobs. Can you tell it? I love this story. Yeah, so he got to support my sister, right?

Twins are on the way. He's 18, she's 19, something like that. He worked for his father at a rock quarry hard, many more hours than he normally would or anyone else did, working like 12-hour days. And that was taking up all of his time, Monday through Friday. So he got a new job, pressure washing houses on the weekend.

He went and bought himself a pressure washer for a few hundred dollars, put ads out there, advertised everywhere, and he would travel around on the weekends and pressure wash houses all day. And he'd do it at night after work if he had time. He worked nonstop and just saved up enough money to get a family started. And he kept doing it, and at this point, they're very well off. Like, both of them took to that, started working hard, and now they have a chain of daycares.

Like, I don't know how you get from point A to point B. I guess I do, but it's not a fun story. But now they have a chain of businesses that they own together, and they're very successful with it. They do very, very well for themselves. I don't know if either of you know what it costs to put a child in daycare all day, but it's really fucking expensive.

I've been there before and seen how many kids they've got and they've got multiple locations, and I'm just like, fucking $100, $200, $300, $400, $500, $600, a grand? There's a grand right there. It really adds up. So, yeah, worked hard. And he could have very easily, and you see it happen all the time, and maybe I'm not.

At 18, I don't know what I would have done. Maybe if I'd loved the girl. I know what I would have done if I'd loved the girl. But if I'd made a mistake at 18, I don't know what I would have done. But I know what he did. And he definitely went the be a man route and worked his ass off until it. That's just very impressive taylor juarez from albuquerque you guys haven't seen my video today but i i talk about you know basically

i'm like wealth and wealth inequality is fair right different people put different amounts in you get different amounts out there are opportunities especially if you live in like a first world country you can make a thing happen and i I made this video, How to Get Rich in 22 Years, and the feedback from it, a lot of it was like, well, I don't know, use 10% as your interest rate, I think nine and a half would be better. It's like, dude, your problem is not nine and a half versus 10%. Your problem is you did nothing. You didn't invest at all. And you're sitting here finding reasons why you shouldn't have, trying to poke holes in something instead of doing a thing. And a lot of people, one guy even said you know

well i'm a white male so what do i know right it's fucking awesome and uh but then i look at this guy this guy who like got a job at the quarry i guess with his dad that helped a lot and uh and then he leveraged that into buying like a pressure washer and then he goes from the pressure washer to the next step to the next step now he owns a chain of daycares um these opportunities you know what he has a red paper clip. These opportunities are out there. Most people just don't buy pressure washers and drum up business for themselves and create enterprises out of nothing. But the opportunities are there.

It didn't take any special instruction to become a pressure washer. So anyway, stories like that are really... Remember I talked about how multiple languages, musicians, they're just magic to me. Entrepreneurs like that, I have a tremendous amount of respect for people who just like, I can do it. One of the things that upset me the most about Obama

was when he said that you didn't build that thing. Because I feel like not only does that hurt me personally a little, because it's like, I've got to build a little thing over here. But it's like, I know people who did build things, and nobody was fucking, they didn't pull a fucking slot machine handle before they got their business rocking and rolling. They fucking went bankrupt twice, and then their third business took off because they fucking worked their ass.

I don't know what he said if you could say that oh it is something like you know you guys who are out there who have this and have that you didn't build that you know you uh he said that one of his biggest pet peeves were was people who were successful who don't know that they got lucky or something like that as well and i don't care for that i don't care for that i don't think it's a good way to look at things for the next generation. That's what you want, a president who believes the reason he's in the office is because of a stroke of luck.

Let me read it to you. If you were successful, someone along the way gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business,

you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the internet so all the companies could make money off the internet. So that's the full context, right? Fuck you. Yeah. So what they did is they took the piece of it. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. But I guess what he's really saying is like, the reason America is great is not just your entrepreneurship drive yeah it's the roads it's the internet so i have i have a youtube channel that i'm proud of right did i build that i placed i had a role in it right that's for sure but someone else invented the internet right i didn't make the youtube platform there's a whole lot of infrastructure that i benefited from. And I think that was what Obama was trying to say. That's really fucking annoying to hear from any politician who is, for most of their life, a career politician.

Like, he was an attorney before this briefly, wasn't he? Mostly trying to parlay that into a political career, if I'm not mistaken. It's just when someone who quite literally has a career built on the backs of his constituents starts judging you saying we're the ones that allowed you to do this. You know, people invested in roads, us, so that you could get to work and do this. It's just, I don't know, it's disrespectful and condescending. And it's a clear pandering attempt to those who haven't succeeded and attempt to make them think, oh, I haven't succeeded and Obama knows why too. You know, fucking the pfizer guy from 100 years ago just lucked out i i see it differently actually like because i here's here's another thing that he said this is you want to watch this let me go on before we watch it okay

i i also feel like i didn't build that i feel like you know like my role in this thing existed in an ecosystem that allowed the thing that i did to work out. And it doesn't bother me in the same way that it bothers you. I am what I mean in the video, I keep referring to my video cause it's on my mind. Um, and the reaction to it, I told people it was their responsibility where they are like, Oh, right. Do you think this wealth inequality is just that you lost some grand lottery? No. Like the fact that there's a billionaire over there doesn't stop you at all from becoming your own millionaire or billionaire. And it didn't go well. Yeah, wealth is not a zero-sum game.

It didn't go well. People didn't like to hear that they are responsible for where they are. They like to believe that it was just bad luck. And I think back to like these political campaigns that was running in my head. Like Hillary was like, you better believe I hold those banks responsible for allowing people to take out loans they couldn't pay back and I'm like man really because I always kind of held the people that took out the loans responsible those no income no job loans whatever you know what you did you know you can't buy a mansion right you took out a loan you couldn't pay back you're like

kind of a thief to me and I've got people in my extended family who did that who took out those big loans got houses they couldn't live in couldn't pay off the mortgages stayed there for like years while they were like in the process of going bankrupt and then went to florida and i'm not talking about my parents by the way they're in florida i want to get it twisted but um uh yeah you're totally right the way they outsource responsibility onto, it's all the banks. You know, they forced you to come in and apply for that loan that you knew, if you could do some simple math, that you're not going to be able to pay this off in the way that they've planned. Like, the banks shouldn't have been allowed to offer those in the first place

because it's predatory in a way. But those people should also have the wherewithal to look at it and be, God, just like looking at a Lamborghini being like, this would be so great, but I just can't. Disagree. McDonald's isn't predatory,

and neither were those banks. Those people were stupid. I was working in finance in 2005. It was fucking... I saw this so many times with cars. This is a tenth of what we're talking about with homes. So many people just don't get it.

Sitting there at that desk to have sat across the desk from so many people that are purchasing a car and talk about car payments and see what they think about car payments, I would say, what would you like your car payment to be? That's a little sales technique I like to use.

What would you like your car payment to be? What can you afford? Because let's talk about the monthly thing, not about the big MSRP over there. And they'd be like, well, I was hoping I could get away with $300 a month. And there would be so many times where I'd hear that, and it was dumbfounding,

because they'd be like, wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa. So how many months were we going to finance 48 000 fucking car at 300 a month then how how long do you think you're gonna live highlander it's just gonna work like it's just not gonna work and i just do the simple math like 300 times 72 months where are we now and that's zero interest without tax like like you're not going to get there um that latest thing that i linked you to is obama speaking at uh his alma mater i guess um

which one the lower one you would like to see the lower one is him saying his pet peeve is successful people not realizing that they just got lucky and i did he actually say that because this is the kind of a headline that someone who just really hates Obama would put on. Oh, let's watch it together. Are you guys ready? I am. Ready, set, play.

And that means we have to not only question the world as it is and stand up for those African Americans who haven't been so lucky. Because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine, people who've been successful and don't realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them. It wasn't nothing you did.

So needlessly divisive. Truth is somewhere in between. But we must also expand our moral imaginations to understand and empathize with all people who are struggling. Not just black folks who are struggling. The refugee. The immigrant. The rural poor. The transgender person.

And yes, the middle-aged white guy who you may think has all the advantages but over the last several decades has seen his world upended by economic and cultural and technological change and feels powerless to stop it. You've got to get in his head too i lost track of what he was trying to say at some point there um you say that donald trump's coming and he's very afraid all right i followed the whole you know my big pet peeve is people who got lucky and don't realize there's something close to that um i don't like how immediately he made it into a race thing and then immediately from there made it into a class thing like into a globalization thing almost it's kind of like i feel like he can't stay on one topic he's so goddamn liberal he's just oozing liberal bullshit out of every fucking poor any kid.

I use a lot of liberal bullshit, too. And transgenders, and Syrians. Is there anybody else that we could say here? The albinos. It's just silly where it's like, you could have said that exact same thing in a more convincing way, and a way that doesn't immediately ostracize certain segments of your audience. But that's what he wanted. doesn't immediately ostracize certain segments of your audience but that's what he wanted his entire presidency it seems like has been you know dividing people purposely inflammatory

being incendiary for the sake of dividing and you know making it an us first them thing and you know every president's done that i'm sure i'm not old enough to talk to a bunch of presidents ago but it's just i don't know i think that this is the first, the last eight years is when I've been old enough to really pay attention to it. And so I'm much more critical of that and give leeway to Bush and whatnot. Because I was, you know, Bush was elected in 2000 to 2008. So I was like, you know, those are my formative years. I wasn't paying attention to politics. I have a different thing than Obama, right?

I feel like twice I've seen him say you didn't build that. Now you just got lucky. My message, which in my head is more motivational than you poor soul. Doesn't it suck to be you? What can you do about it? My message is go do about

it. Go buy a pressure washer and start your enterprise go you know to do your thing how many people started YouTube channels and quit after their fifth video right I like it's super common it's funny that people will say like like he'll say like he'll be the first to warn about generalizations and whatnot and then he's fine making sweeping ones about everyone who started a business. He'll backtrack a little bit.

He's never had one. I don't like the message of, what are you going to do? You didn't hit the lottery. No, the message should be, you've got more opportunity than you think. Try a thing. Try a thing, whatever thing. Some guy wrote me today, said he's 19 years old. He's worth $70,000 because he mastered WordPress, which is kind of, you know how Squarespace,

they have that like system that helps you put together a page. WordPress is like a similar type thing. It's a content management system. And he would just find customers and put together different WordPress templates and make websites for people and charge them for it. Now he's worth 70000 in his late teens. Anyone can do this stuff. Anyone can do it. It makes me feel really lazy sometimes

because I often see the opportunities, but they require hard work. Many times it's much harder. You have to really work for those dollars. Some dollars you don't have to work for as hard as others, but some of those entrepreneur dollars are very hard to get at. It's a lot of work that you have to put into and you have to work for as hard as others, but some of those entrepreneur dollars are very hard to get at. It's a lot of work that you have to put into, and you have to be comfortable with failure or multiple failures to get there.

But if you just grind, you'll do well no matter what. And there's no guarantees. I strongly believe that. I believe if you grind – and what I'm basing that on is because I don't believe that anything – I believe that I can do anything I want if I really want it. I believe the more you grind, the better your odds. Oh yeah. Like, like, because, because we, it's not like you have one shot. It's not like the timer's ticking down and the buzzer's going to go off. If you fail, you just get back up and try again. You just keep shooting until you make the shot. You only got to make it once. I don't, I don't get it. I don't, I hate that. I hate that from,

from him. I feel like what I would love to see from our political leader, from our president, is just his inspiration. He should be up there saying, look at this guy, right? He should be bringing up other graduates from Harvard. This is Jim. Jim, tell them about your home life when you were a kid. Tell them about your mother. Tell them about the hardships you had to went through. How many jobs did you work? Three? How do you even work three at 18 years old? Didn't you have to go to school? Oh, you did that? You were the lunch lady. Holy shit.

I want to hear stories like that. I always hear excuses for bad parenting, too. That's another one that frustrates me. Like, oh, this lower income parent, they never paid attention to the kid's work because, you know, she had other concerns. Look, and here's the spot like

i feel like i'm in this privileged thing because my wife stays at home but um like you know what she should have worked and requested that her kids get good grades she should have worked and read their report cards she should have worked and asked them if they got their homework done my mother did that shit my mom my mom worked a full time job she taught so she was gone all day and and she did lesson plans until 4 or 5 p.m or 6 p.m at night every night but there wasn't a project that she wasn't involved on if i had a a big project coming up something need to be built at home you know she's always right there next to me you know she's helping me study she's helping me learn things like like whatever it takes i feel like there's a kind of silent racism of low expectations amongst low-income parents.

I've heard that said before. Yeah. It's not original to me. But this silent racism of low expectations. Like, oh, yeah. You know what? It's not that she was lazy about the educational side of her duties as a parent. It's that she was just working super hard

on that other stuff it's a condescending like paternalistic style of generally liberal racism like i've heard it said the soft bigotry of low expectations kind of like you said okay where it's like instead of you know saying you really need to buckle down and get this done like really this is your result so far it's unacceptable I know you're better than this. It's building in excuses for them and being a whole, like, pat on the head, like, treating, just condescending, where it's like, oh, you know, you tried real good,

but we all know your expectations. We all know what you're capable of, and, you know, we're not holding you to that standard. It just doesn't, I don't know, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth because it comes off as so disingenuous. And you just know that there are a ton of people out there, a ton of black people, I don't know, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth because it comes off as so disingenuous. And you just know that there are a ton of people out there, a ton of black people,

Mexican people, whatever minority, who really get pissed off and feel angry like, hey, hey, hey, white guy, white girl, I don't need you talking for me. I can handle this shit. I don't need you telling everybody else to go easy on me. I know that's what I would do. If there was

an Asian politician out there talking about the hardships of the white man and all the things that I had to go through to get where I'd be like, stop fucking doing that. Just let me do my own fucking thing. I would hate that. I'd hate that so much to have someone in the background. What if someone went out there what if

white kids test scores were low by a standard deviation or something. They were really low, much lower than everyone else's. It'd be a huge success story on MSNBC. Right? And the Asian politician goes out there and he says, well, we really need to cut

these white kids some slack. I mean, inherently, they have disabilities. I mean, you clearly look at this and that in their home life, and you'd be like, whoa, that's so fucking racist. Don't fucking say that about me. I wasn't trying hard enough i was lazy i'm sorry boss i'll work harder next time because that's always the answer if you're doing bad at something you're not trying hard enough yeah and i'll i can admit that not everyone's equal i i still love taylor's like spider web of skill trees right you know but most people have an area that they can succeed in and thrive if they step up

their grind skill tree. And yeah, that's where my thing is. My problem with what Obama was saying there is I just feel like it wasn't inspirational enough. I like what Kyle's doing, grabbing some guy and saying, look how he got it done. I like what Kyle's brother-in-law did, where he stepped up like that. I like what this guy who built the WordPress websites did. I like what Kyle's brother-in-law did, you know, where he stepped up like that. I like what this guy who built the WordPress websites did. I like the guys who were like, you know what, like I did a thing. This is the success I had in it. And you know, I built this out of nothing. Now, not out of nothing. We all know there's an infrastructure that helps all of us do our thing, but some people stand on the shoulders of giants and reach new heights and other people just mingle in and say well this sucks trump's dad gave him

that much money so he didn't really do anything and uh it's like dude how did trump stop you from buying a pressure washer like what he's not holding you back. Just launch it, baby. And that million dollars that Trump got, I would love to see what... How much more? I always heard... Are you talking about the inheritance or the loan? There were other loans that he doesn't cop to.

One in particular, I think I mentioned on the show before, his father bought... I'm going to get this figure wrong. Is it $9 million worth of poker chips and just put them in his pocket as sort of a way to do a loan to keep that thing afloat? And there might have been another instance too. That would be some tax implications with that.

It turns out the poker chip thing was illegal and they lost in court. I don't know why personally. To me it seems like a valid way to give someone a loan but it turned out that wasn't okay i think he needs to pay taxes on those gambling winnings i don't know i don't know uh but uh um there were other successful guy by like you know like like all right if my dad gave me 10 million dollars i still wouldn't have 10 billion and neither does he but make it 4 billion he did really well and the other thing is If my dad gave me $10 million, I still wouldn't have $10 billion. And neither does he, but make it $4 billion. He did really well.

And the other thing is every most small business or business owner initially takes out a loan, right? Whether it's $150,000, whether you're taking... I don't like that. I personally like the bootstrap idea where you build with what you've got. Well, it depends on the business. What if you have, and I'm going to make up a business real quick. Let's just say you're going into the food industry.

You're going to open a restaurant. You've got this chef. You've got Bobby Flay here, and he's undiscovered. He's your cousin. He's the guy. You know that if you can just get Bobby behind that grill, it's going to go gangbusters. You're going to be really successful, but you need $150,000 to get things kick-started

off. So most businesses start that way, I feel like. At some point, they go ground, you know, they start small, and then they get to a point, but at a certain point, you're like, we need $100,000 to move forward. At some point, you probably need a loan.

So Trump, there's a lot of stuff that bothers me about trump but those things are rarely uh pointed at or talked about by the media like the loan stuff just doesn't bother me they're like can you believe that that that he started with 15 million dollars well how much does he have now well conservatively two and a half billion. Hmm. That's pretty good. Let's give him some more money. If I gave you $15 and you turned it into $2,500, I'd be impressed. Yeah.

Real hot streak there, Kyle. What'd you do? That's just what I do. Fell ass backward into it. I didn't build it. Yeah. Anyway, Kyle, so I think you have one more chance to redeem yourself.

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