Painkiller Already - Painkiller Already #286

Episode Date: June 17, 2016

This week on PKA, friend of the show, Filthy Robot joins the guys and they talk about his recent marriage, the goings on of UFC 200 and some debating over Donald Trump.

Hey, we're live! Um, Painkiller already, episode 286 with Phil B. Robot. This is a record-breaking event for PKA. Never before, never before in my entire time here have we all sat down and within three minutes, the show has begun. It's unbelievable. It's groundbreaking. You guys don't see behind the scenes. Usually, it's a bit of an ordeal. And there's a lot to be done. Oh, did you update this? Did you do that?

Is your audio okay? No, this time, just fucking do it. Sometimes there's an hour of tech work, like where we're just trying to get our mics to work and cameras to work and shit. Thanks to our sponsors tonight, Loot Crate, of course. And who's the other one? I've got it in front of me.

Squarespace. Squarespace, of course. Thanks to them. We'll talk about them more later on in the show. Our guest and his filthy robot, we got him back. He's got some new news in his life. We were just talking about video games before we hit the record button. I was telling you

we've been playing some Company of Heroes and we played some Age of Mythology before that, which is like Age of Empires. We're definitely enjoying the Company of Heroes more. Would you call it node-based resource? I'm not sure if that's like a technical term or anything. This is how I think of it.

It makes a very kind of dynamic style of fighting because the resources are a location that requires you to constantly interact with. I like that too. Yeah, do they do their reinforcement systems in Dawn of War 2 where the squads can reinforce at the location? Yeah, that's a really cool thing. There are many ways in which you're able to reinforce them.

There are special trucks you can call in and special stuff like that, or you can retreat them back to the base, but you can't just do it on the fly, like in the heat of battle. Yeah, I like how that really matters in the game too. Like if you play the way Chiz does, and you just throw units at the wall until death, and there's no retreat, like by the end of the game, all your guys are still no star, just level one, hoping for the best, and if you've been

retreating, you've got, like, a three-star group that's just, really just butt-fucked. Better weapons, better tactics, they shoot faster, more accurately, they cool down faster, reload faster, anything and everything you can imagine, they're just better and bigger. This is quite an endorsement. I was, I've been on the border about checking that out.

I love Relic. It's Relic, right? Company Heroes. It's really quick to pick up because you're not, you don't have to all of a sudden be like, all right, how many workers do I put on wood? How many do I put on gold? You don't have to learn all that bullshit. It's just like aggression and a few units, and that's about it. Build orders don't matter because it's all reactive. It's a really fun game.

I want to talk about your real life, though. My real life? Yeah. I share this with all my fans too often. R.L. Yeah. You got married, huh? I did.

I did. So how long was the engagement? Let's see. About six months, a little less. Okay. I like that. Right up the middle. Smash mouth wedding, right?

No fucking around. You go from point A to point B. Five and a half years. No zigzagging to the sidelines. Yeah. I mean, at this point, the decision's been made, right? Like made right like in the sense no not necessarily that it has to go to marriage but i mean we're happy with each other we've had a great relationship and uh there's a lot of benefits to being married so uh we did a courthouse wedding a fairly low-key affair pretty quick uh you'd go

like two days before get your documents filled out and you go and do it and a relatively bored kind of state official kind of walks you through the whole process. He doesn't seem that impressed. He's got like five before you, ten after you. No, he had a gay guy right before. That was the story. You're just... Why are you doing this? It's not hip.

Yeah, but it ended up being really nice. We spent the whole day together, went out before and after, and just my brother came into town afterwards. We've been celebrating kind of individually with different family members. The whole the whole thing has been really really nice great man congratulations you hear these horror stories of like these weddings that are just like ridiculous and the planning and everyone's stressed out for a year going into it and i'm just like

that's really not my style so so yeah i don't in the planning of my wedding i didn't even know where it was and everyone seemed to be happy with this arrangement. Because I worked a lot, right? I was going to school at night. Yeah, I was going to school at night, I think. And I had a full-time and a half job. I used to commute like three or four hours a day, depending on whether or not it was a school night. And there's this wedding planning to be happening.

And my wife is like, you know, do you want like red or white flowers? And I'm like, I want you to decide. Everything, everything. Day of wedding, I needed directions to the church. I didn't know a damn thing. There's a friend of ours makes a joke and he calls it make it so. And that's like when you get those type of questions, that's the response because you don't care. Red or white, like what was it? I don't even remember. Napkins? Wait a minute. Woody, with your wedding, did you decide on anything? Was anything your decision? It's a courthouse wedding.

Oh, I was talking about Woody, though. Oh, sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to like the DJ, too. I mean, she picked him and found him, and I kind of approved. The DJ is – so I have a preference for DJ over band. I respect either decision, but I like DJ. I like to have every song and every, you know, artist available.

I feel like an average DJ kills an average band. But if you get a good band, especially if you get a tribute band, like if you get like a Billy Joel tribute band or something like that, you got something fun like that, that'd be really cool. But I'm going to agree with you. Like average DJ beats average band every time. Our DJ was off the hook he brought prop like so what we wanted was a party i wasn't looking like it was we were fairly young

when we got married 22 ish or something you know 23 so um so we were down to dance we were down to have a great time you know friends that i i didn't see all the time you know had all gathered in town and we just rocked the house right like all kinds of dancing all kinds of fun stuff he's like footloose I danced all night at par I'm very good at parties because I'm not afraid to dance and I'm not particularly good at it and that's exactly what you want and it's in this in action. He's not kidding. He's taken my dates before and is just right out there and dance with it.

I can see the embarrassment in everyone's eyes and I'm just like, ah, this is great. Yeah, and me too. I'm having a good time. Kyle's date's having a good time. If those fucking wallflowers are cringing, they can suck a dick because we're out there enjoying ourselves and they care that's one situation where you use sorry go on that was

one because what do you rant on cringe and sometimes i a lot of the time i disagree with you and i will say you're saying that's not cringe but that is cringe you're 100 right with this people who stand to the side and kind of like oh can you believe they're doing that it's like yeah they're they're here having fun i would never go to a bowling alley and just look at people with derision like oh fucking idiots you think you're gonna make a career out of this like no no just just let people have fun who cares if you're bad at dancing i mean he is an award-winning dancer so he he's got nothing to prove out there. Yeah, and Obama got a deep brush. It's just so simple to me.

Like, I hate dancing. But on some level, like, it doesn't matter that I hate it because every girl I've ever dated loves it. And that doesn't mean that I wish to do that every moment. But if the opportunity is there where, like, that's going to happen, you know, you just suck it up. You swallow the fact that you can't dance for shit and you go have a good time with it. And I'm good at weddings because i turn wallflowers into dancers you know when i go if the dance floor is empty don't give a fuck here i come bitches more room for me and i can just bust bigger moves on an empty dance floor until you crowd it with me and you're just throwing bows out there by yourself

come on guys bows out there by yourself. Come on, guys! It's part of the strategy. The overall embarrassment of the room. They had to cover him up. The video that you tweeted out, the little sneak peek of, has that one went up yet? Yes, that would be Wednesday's video. Have you seen it, Taylor? I saw the small clip.

I couldn't bear any more than that. I've only seen the small clip. Do you guys want to group watch it? I would love that. I would love it. If you're not watching my vlog, well. There's nothing I want more than to watch this. So if you're out there and you've never seen Risky Business with Tom Cruise,

it's crucial, crucial for the enjoyment of Woody's clip that he's about to show that you pause our show right now and you go and just click Tom Cruise Ris business dance scene. And then you'll, in like three minutes, not only do you get to see Tom Cruise dancing and having a great time, it's a good scene, but you'll get the joke.

You'll fully appreciate what I've done in my replication. You'll get the joke. You'll get all the nuance. Taylor. All right. Oh, let me link it. Now, there is about 30 seconds of setup, and I'd love to watch that too.

I'd love that, yeah. Yeah. So just pause at zero, and we'll set up the scene. Some nice luggage you got there. All right. Are we ready? Oh, I'm ready. Filthy?

I think so, yep. On play. Ready, set, play. Shit, I didn't hit. Can we start over? All right, so I have. Here's what happened. Here's what happened.

So I've got my screen on the left where there's a YouTube video. And then on the right, I have like what's capturing. So I clicked on the picture of the video and not the video itself and I'm like what is happening alright we back at 0 glad we got the whole process ready set play Off they go. That's where Chiz lived. Jackie and the kids are off to visit her mother. So for the next nine or ten days, I'm going to be all alone.

What to do? envy my calves bitches envy my calves what if those words used are they cringe worthy oh what uh what kind of underwear is that you're wearing there, Woody? Me undies. Is it? It is. Excellent. Award-winning dancing. You're seeing it right here. I think it's aggravating that that guy lives in that house.

So, I have this problem. Alright, that's enough. That's funny. I like that. What do you say after that? I really enjoy it. That's funny. That's really fucking funny. I like that a lot. I like how you have every microphone in existence and you go with the axe.

So in the movie, he used a candlestick, and I looked for that, but all we have are, like, Yankee candles, and that would be stupid. You're holding a large, dirty candle. Come on. That would be stupid? Only that part?

The rest of that just floats by? Exactly. I didn't want to look dumb. So why not go all the way with the Yankee Candlestick? Actually, yeah, now I'm on Filthy's page. That would have been funny if you're holding a nice French vanilla, you know, three by five candle. So I really enjoyed that.

I've been saving that all week uh i'm glad we watched it watched it here together um so you just went away for two days and took back-to-back daily classes um on the paramotoring stuff that's right for your information uh paramotoring basically uh you you strap a motor and a big uh propeller onto your back. Very, like, small system. It doesn't weigh much. And you tow behind you a really large wing-shaped parachute. And you take flight

pretty quickly, and you're able to fly like a hundred miles in this thing at like a relatively slow speed. You're able to go really high in it, and you don't need a pilot's license. And so Woody has bought one of these contraptions, and he is going through the process of training to become an airman, as we have come to call him.

How much was the flying machine again that you purchased? You know, I think you know, and you're just making fun of me. I think it was three easy payments of $39.99. $3,999. Yeah. That's right. I want to say the flying... Let's just wrap it up.

The flying machine and the lessons and everything combined was something like $12,500. Yeah. And yeah, so I've had five lessons so far. One of them was full-on ground school it was actually a rainy day so it was just all academic stuff and four days like out in the field learning to

handle this wing at the risk of repeating myself it's really all about the ground skills it's about getting it over your head controlling it being able to make sure that things don't go fluttering around the flying I'm told I haven't done it yet is easy it's all about being able to make sure that things don't go fluttering around the flying i'm told i haven't done it yet is easy it's all about being able to control the wing while you're on the ground and i'm getting damn good at that good enough that um now when i do it they make me wear the motor and is there any part of you that that is tempted to be like you know what maybe i'll go home and I'll just fly a little. Maybe I'll just fly.

Maybe I'll get six feet off the ground. I'll fly across my yard. Woody's got a very large yard, you know, one end to the other. And then I'll, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So that's called bunny hops. And it's the next step, right? There was a chance that I was going to get that done today. I think this is going to be a hit. My question stands.

Are you tempted to go bunny hopping on the estate? So what it is is when I kite the wing with a motor on, I'm successful about two-thirds of the time, right? Sounds good to me. And then the other third, you're like, I would have wrapped up the wing in the propeller and fucked all this up. And then if that happens, I don't know what other, like, does that also yank me to the ground or whatever. So, um.

Thanks for a great video. It's more like next time I kite with the motor on, if I'm starting to approach like 100% success rate, then that temptation gets even stronger. But as it is, I feel like my instructor has been appropriately moving me from milestone to milestone. So what's the ETA on flight? I'm always too aggressive with my timelines. I think there's a real chance I fly next time I'm out there. What's the standard number in the sense of are you done? They they going to give you instructions until you can fly? Yeah. So he's actually changing his business model on that with the last class with this deal.

But I kind of get – if I'm that slow a learner, I have lifetime lessons. There are people coming back from last year who just like don't get it. But the next batch is going to be like you get 12 lessons. If you don't pick it up within 12 lessons, let's talk about more money. Yeah, then maybe you shouldn't be in the air. What's happening is people are taking four courses, dropping out, but they've got lifetime courses. They come back the next year and they're starting over, but they're starting over at day one. He's finding out that the Steely setup was kind of unfair to him.

You can just tell him to kiss his ass. That's probably the best cure for that. But I'm looking forward to you taking it to the air. That's going to be really cool. I'm looking forward to the videos that come from that. Next thing I wanted to talk about. You can buzz in with the drone, Kyle, as he's flying around in that. It's funny. You should mention that.

The thing about, and maybe we should do a little Google research right now, but Kitty was just telling me that her friend is getting his pilot's license so that he can continue to use his drone commercially so i think that they are going to force anyone who's using their drone commercially and you youtubers out there that means you um to uh to get a pilot's license the um i i don't know what that means exactly, pilot's license, because what are you going to be certified on? Do you have to pass the written test, or do I have to take a Cessna up and fucking pass? I looked into what it takes to become a pilot once and get a pilot's license. They told me it was going to cost me $5,000, and I don't know how many weeks it was, and there was

a lot of paperwork. There was two or three manuals and a lot of literature, and there was about $500 worth of stuff you just had to purchase to do the thing. So it's a big deal becoming a pilot. Kyle has experience with the ATF defining commercial pretty broadly, right? Yeah, if you're earning money from it it's commercial use yeah yeah thus far the faa has not been as big a douchebag um you know for example just

filming or photography or something uh like and i i know this from paramotors too i can't use my paramotor commercially but the way that i use it like i film every day and just film also this isn't considered commercial by the faa so they like it's it's a it'll get tested someday to see whether like a youtuber is a commercial pilot but we'll we'll find out i mean this person seems to think so so what type of like heights are you certified to with that? How high would you be taking that thing? So it will go I don't know, like 20,000 feet high but in America the limit is

10,000 feet. And then what? That's what the planes are. And then the police pull you over. There's no limit to how high you can go when you're dying and floating into space because you got into a cloud suck. And you're gone. I know in Europe, it's 18,000 feet.

That's where their limit is. I want to take some O2 with you. It's a good idea. Was that that Bob Gardner guy? The Red Bull guy who went crazy to the edge of space and then did the sky dive? Didn't Richard Ryan do that? Well, Richard Ryan did a halo jump.

Richard Ryan did a halo jump. I don't remember. Richard Ryan did a halo jump, which is like 35,000, 45,000 feet. I think he did his from 35,000, something like that. Don't quote me on that. But it was really fucking high, maybe 40. But what Baumgardner, I think I'm pronouncing his name right, did, I'm just guessing, but it was like 80 or 100,000 feet. It was like the edge of space.

God, that video stressed me out watching it. My hands, I'm thinking about it right now, and it's making my hands sweaty, because I remember it was trending on Twitter, like, oh, Red Bull highest skydive. And I'm like, oh, whatever, it's still going to be a skydive. And this dude's in a space suit, leaning out of a shuttle. 120,000 feet.

And you see the edge of the blue of our sky, and then just the abyss. Black. It's black. It's space. It's pretty neat, because he's borderline. You're like, which way does he go? Does he float off to space or come back to Earth?

That was honestly a thought of mine. Like, I'm like, what if they really mess this up? And he goes, ready? And he jumps. And he gets sucked into the vacuum of space. That's not how it happens but whatever when he jumps you don't even realize for the first couple seconds that he's falling because he's so fucking high up there that your eyes can't even tell the perspective of it it's like

there's not anything close enough to wait a minute the ground's not getting any closer yeah and then he gets closer and closer and it's like this is so stupid like what are you doing he just dived out of the air from closer. Can I be honest? I didn't think what he did was brave at all. I think he was. And I think for an equal amount of publicity, I would have done it too. And I think Woody would have as well.

Because here's how that system worked. Here's how that system worked. He didn't have to. He literally didn't have to do shit. He could have passed. Everything was set up. So he could just pass out and it would still work. He doesn't have to do shit. He could have passed. Everything was set up so he could just pass out and it would still work. He doesn't have to push a button. He doesn't have to jump, I don't think.

Everything was going to work without him doing anything. He just has to jump. They made a small spaceship in a human size. It was a balloon. They floated him up there with a balloon. I meant his body was wrapped in a suit ship.

He just jumped out. He had oxygen in body was wrapped in a suit ship. Sure. He just jumped out. He had oxygen in there. That's a bunch of bullshit, too. We'd have put a bunch of coveralls and winter wear, like that shit I wore to Colorado. We'd have put my paintball goggles on, some duct tape. Bunch of guard hearts.

Little O2 canisters and a snorkel. Yeah, let's break his fucking record. This is a YouTube audience. You guys have all... Actually, I don't know about you Tyler but I know that Woody and Kyle right they've made their careers on this right so I mean like you guys are like criticizing this almost from like a production standpoint

you're kind of like we could have done better like you know like that's not that impressive we would have got twice as many views and you know twice as cool like outfits out there but like a technical perspective it's still pretty damn cool if you're trying to pimp red bull if you're saying red bull's so goddamn hardcore we go to space and come back for it then like as he was coming down

he should have been first of all it should have been a nosedive right he shouldn't have just been like fallen like a skydiver he should have been like nosediving down like a superhero or maybe do a superman and he should have been on fire he should they should have like set him on fire so it looked like he was re-entering i don't even know if you can have fire in that low oxygen. Like at 86,000 feet, can you make a fire? Well, you could use an oxidizing compound or oxidizing fuel that makes its own oxygen. Or you could just, you know.

So just have rocket boosters pointing in every direction. Oh, that'd be awesome. No, no, no. Not every direction. Iron Man shit, right? Like hands and feet. That would not work. It worked in The Martian.

Take that. I saw that. I think it's scarier almost. If what you're saying is true, that he could have just passed out and still landed fine, that's almost even scarier if he doesn't really have control over what's going on, and it's some, like,

what if fucking Mahmood spills coffee on the server at the last second, and it's just nothing. He fucking mahmoud spills coffee on the server at the last second and it's just nothing he's got an altimeter computer it talks to us and it pulls the chute for him i don't know the exact inner workings of it but it's an altimeter that pulls a chute for him when he when he hits the correct altitude to do so so that way if he passes out because he ran out of oxygen or i don't know he had a panic attack or whatever. You know, it does it for him. I just didn't think... I disagree on that. I don't know about brave.

I mean, it's another... It's a calculated risk, right? Like, there's shit that could go wrong with that. And if it goes wrong in that climate, in that position, it's probably fatal. Maybe not. Maybe the chute pulls, but if the chute fails or something. So in some sense, you're risking your life.

And, yeah, you know, if they have good equipment, good safety, you do that 99 times, you're risking your life. And yeah, you know, if they have good equipment, good safety, you do that, you know, 99 times. Let's ask this. Kyle has swung around from the bottom of a helicopter on like a safety strap. Who took the bigger risk? The guy in space. The guy in space, you say? Are you sure? Because I tied those knots. I doubt that's true.

Then actually, I don't even know. Like an RMI or something, some sort of rock climbing place. I got a 100-footer. REI, thank you. It was the first and only time I've ever been there. And it was funny because this very attractive sales associate at REI is suiting me up for my climbing gear. And she thinks I'm a rock climber, of course. So she's talking about the local spots where they climb.

And she's like, oh, yeah, you've been up to the Woodus Peak and you've been up on the Gnarle. You've been up on the Gnarle. And I'm just like, we're going to dangle me beneath a helicopter. Let's make sure that I'm not going to fall out if I end up upside down. And she's like, oh, okay. So we're in the store dangling me upside down, and I'm wiggling trying to fall out.

And so we got there and parked the helicopter, landed it, and just tied it to the bottom of the landing things on the helicopter. What happened to this great production value you guys were criticizing this last time? You just told me, just parked the helicopter, tied a rope to it, and took off. That was your production value. Well, wait a minute. His previous production value was a bunch of card hearts. You saying that fire needs to be on there

and then us realizing that your safety protocol is having purportedly a 17-year-old rock climber dangle you upside down as you kind of wiggle. That could have gone poorly. She went like this and I wiggled and my buddies kind of tugged on me. Oh, that keeps bail safe. If you point your knees like

i could you know i could wiggle out but i'm not gonna fall out and we just wanted to achieve that and the rope was gonna hold like i don't know how many pounds it was absurd though it was like all of us okay we could all be held from this rope and all of the things that we brought with us like everything was the rope do you remember it was expensive and you know the shitty thing um i kept it coiled and i put it with my climbing harnesses and my cousin used it to fucking lasso some cattle or something and it ended up getting like like left out ruined it was very expensive like and it was per foot yeah yeah right you know and five dollars a foot you need a hundred feet or something like that expensive rope i'm gonna i'm gonna say it was a two hundred dollar rope that's probably excessive but it hundred to two hundred dollars somewhere in there is what i paid for that rope and i was not happy when it was

misused but it did i didn't trust my life to it one time but yeah i think what he did was what i did was probably there was probably more risk involved if i'm being completely honest because we're in a helicopter like helicopters crashters crash a lot more than, I don't know, space balloons do, right? Yeah, I've never heard of a space balloon crash thus far. 100% survival rate on those. How many people have gone up via space balloon? Is it 100% success

rate? As far as I know. N of 2. Actually, Richard Branson's crashed a couple of those things. Well, then maybe the percentage isn't very good. Yeah. See, that's what you should have gotten into, Woody. I bet it's much cheaper to make some sort of space balloon

than it is to just get a paramotor. I bet you could... It has to be. You don't choose where you land on that. Earth. That's all that matters at that point. That is right. Otherwise, you might get sucked out.

It could be like, I don't know, Venus? Cloud suck. I just hope I get back to Earth. I don't care where I am. Yeah, that would be stressful to be in a... Is this different than a hot air balloon? Or is this... Because I don't know what a space balloon is.

You could do the space balloon with one guy with a rope tied to his leg. A hot air balloon, typically, of course, you heat the air the space balloons they use a an air that's lighter than air like helium or something yeah i just go and you just float yeah float away it's just as high as you can go that would be scariest part of that trip is floating upwards with just a balloon that you're hoping there's no, you know, gutsy sparrows flying overhead. It's gonna ruin your fucking day before

you can even jump from space. There have been amateurs who have done that, you know, like this guy, obviously, Red Bull's behind him, God knows how many millions of dollars in research, development, and shit. The suit looked legit, I mean. So I feel like, you know, the balloons were attached well.

That would be my first concern, right? Did we tie the knots good? And then my next concern. Wiggle around a little bit. I'm fine. And then they figured out what gases to use. So I'm sure all that was safe. But there are people, I think, like is it just.

It's literally a hobby. It's one that they compare. Like the paramotor webpages are like, hey, here's other things. Paragliding, paramotoring. Balloon chairs. Balloonism. Yeah, there's a name for it. But it's pretty much lawn chairs and balloons.

And there are people who do that as their hobby. They should call it loons. Oh, that's perfect. There have been people who have gotten sucked up into those currents and died. And there are people who have gotten blown out to sea and never seen again. I can't imagine that the kind of person who would buy a hot air balloon could even summon the emotion to get that aggravated. It just seems like excitable people wouldn't go hot air ballooning.

They'd go flying. So they'd just be floating off to sea like, oh, dear. You ever done it? Have I ever done it? No. It's scary. I did it as a kid, and something about the way it works and how, I don't know, there's no control. You're just up, up and follow the wind.

I didn't care for it very much, but, yeah, I've done it a long time ago as a kid, maybe eight, something like that. Maybe I wouldn't be afraid of it now, but I don't know. Even now, the thing that makes me so calm and collected in a helicopter or a plane is that like yeah we go that way or we go this way or we can go up or we can go down or yeah we can land right now but in that thing well you go you just it's just up and down huh yeah and it doesn't feel like when you're in a plane there's like you know that that metal around you is going to crumble like a can if it hits the ground but there's an illusion of like i'm inside i'm okay it's all right you know that that metal around you is going to crumble like a can if it hits the ground But there's an illusion of like I'm inside. I'm okay. It's all right

You know I couldn't punch through this like whatever, but you're in a balloon And you're basically in a you know on sale basket from Pier one floating 600 feet in the air And there's no control if you guys were just up there when I was six years old a hot-air balloon Crashed on my dad's property and they had to bring ambulances out to treat the people and everything, so maybe that's in my head. Two years later, you said eight you were doing a ballooning? Yeah, we went up and had a hot air

balloon. You're like, two years later, you're like, you know what we should do? We should do ballooning. After it went so well for these idiots. I've looked it up. It's called lighter than air. That's the category of a bunch of balloons and strings. Lighter than air flying. Yeah? Heavier than air flying wasn't a very successful endeavor.

That's how everyone else does it. That's what planes are. That's thriving. There's no airplanes are heavier than air. Everything's heavier than air with the exception of, like, balloons and maybe Zeppelins. And what do they call them? Rigid airships. I said Zeppelin. I think that they call them um rigid airships i said zeppelin i think that's two names of the same thing uh there's some difference between a zeppelin and a blimp

but they're both rigid airships way past my area of expertise here the foggiest none of us know anything about this, but we all are very... Did you see the world's shortest skydive that Slim Jim did right afterward? No. Slim Jim put a guy in a suit and they dangled him an inch and a half off the ground like this

and then they dropped him in the world's shortest skydive. Which I thought was brilliant marketing. You know, because they don't have time to be doing all that. They just gotta snap into a Slim Jim and get back to work. I had a Slim Jim since... I remember

I really liked those when I was like 7 or 8 and I had another one like a year and a half ago and I don't know if I just got a bad Jim, but holy shit. That was the foulest faux had another one like a year and a half ago and i don't know if i just got a bad gym but no holy shit that was the foulest faux meat i've ever let pass i've never eaten if you got a good gym because i've i remember the last time i had one it was at the baseball concession stand when i was 11 years old and i've never had one again since because that was the biggest waste of 75 cents of

my life that shit it's greasy and oily, but dried out at the same time. It's hard to pull it off. You know how they opened those things? I know the difference between a Zeppelin and a blimp. I looked it up. So a blimp is not rigid. It is basically a Zeppelin-shaped balloon

that you can steer and stuff. A Zeppelin is a rigid airship that's also lighter than air, but it has a frame. I suppose they use helium in those now, right? Yes, because the hydrogen has got that whole Hindenburg thing. Are you mad at me? That was awful, though.

You watch that. Not all hydrogen. What was that? There was an Archer where the whole time Archer keeps the helium as dangerous he doesn't know if it's not explosive so people light a cigarette and he slaps this man

God damn it, don't make me tell you again you'll miss us all and he just slaps the shit out of this guy and everybody's like it's helium, we've been through this three times already I can't believe that that fail safe of just putting hydrogen in there got through you know like that's the kind of mistake that i can't imagine

them making even once like back because they knew oxygen was flammable yeah yeah they knew it was just lighter and cheaper than uh any of the other light gases kyle it escapes me what are the two gases in a oxy oxy acetylene that's what i'm going for acetylene and ox i was one of the other light gases. Kyle, it escapes me. What are the two gases in an oxyacetylene? That's what I'm going for. Acetylene and ox. What are the two gases in an oxyacetylene torch? Once I remembered the name of it, it all came back. I know helium is like a limited quality.

Yes. Like the planet's going to run out of helium. And no one seems concerned about this. I was talking to my gas guy about this the other day. I was like, you know, they tell me, because I was buying a big bottle of helium and no one seems concerned about this i was talking to my gas guy about this the other day i was like you know they tell me because i was buying a big bottle of helium and it's very expensive compared to all the other gases like i buy a lot of gases and a bottle of helium like this big um like this big around and like i don't know you could use three two two feet two and a half feet tall um i know the bottle it's a couple couple hundred bucks. It was a couple hundred bucks, something like that. Whereas I can get like a huge tank of acetylene

for like $80 or something like that. What do you buy helium for? I'm using helium balloons to make the explosive balloons float off the ground. What's up? No, don't mute yourself. No, that would be too reasonable. Hey, he gets murdered right now. We need to hear it.

What are you doing in my house? I'm just getting food. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. I'm standing my ground. Please, my wife. She's hurt outside. Bang, bang, bang. I don't know you.

That's my... Let go of my purse. We're talking about King of the Hill. That's my purse. That's my purse. Oh, while he's gone, give your quick idea about Woody and King of the Hill. Oh, Woody is a lot like

Hank from King of the Hill because of the woodworking stuff. And I was watching an episode where Hank doesn't have anything to do. He's off work for two weeks, and he doesn't have anything to do. And I was like, this is Woody. Like, he's wanting to cut his grass a second time. That's the other thing. Hank Hill's super obsessed with cutting his grass.

It's a huge deal and part of his life. But he has all the kids over to do, like, a woodshop thing. And he's like, well well I only have three Sanders so you'll have to take turns and it's like yeah that's Woody he's the guy who only has three Sanders like the more and more I watch King of the Hill and like I watched as a kid but I'm like catching up to it

now and I'm getting all the like adult jokes I guess and I'm like yeah that's so much like Woody so you're gonna collect quotes in some sort of research method. I put the closed captions on, and I pause it when a good quote gets up there that I think you couldn't tell the difference if that was a Woody quote or a Kill quote. Like it's up in the air, and I'm going to play a game where I ask contestants,

do you think this is a Woody quote or a Hank Hill quote? And it's going to take me maybe a week to compile these because I'm literally snapping pictures from my phone and, like, saving each one, but good stuff. Honestly, I think I'd get, if you ask, like, 20 questions, I bet I can get, like, 14, 15 of them right, maybe. Be surprised. I think that would be a good thing to do.

You could do that on the podcast here. Let me, yeah, podcast here. Let me... Hang on. Let me get another one here. I've got... What's the topic? So basically, while you're looking for it, Kyle was talking to me before the show

saying I've been watching King of the Hill recently. He just explained this, so I'll do it quickly. He's looking for quotes from Hank Hill that are basically indifferentiable from what you would say because he is also so into tools and whatnot and has like the whole i only have you know four jackhammers syndrome i have to like pass him around and share but uh yeah then we're gonna have to guess and see who can discern what's the

woody quote and what's the hank hill quote you'll be paid an experience and that's tax free is that a woody quote or a hank hill quote it'll be like that. It'll be fun. Hmm. I think I will nail those. You don't get to play it. This is the game. It's only going to be Taylor who gets to play that. Because you're going to have made them, Kyle. Whoever poor guest is on that set will get that.

And then Taylor. That'll be it. I think that Woody should be able to answer last so that we can see if we can beat you on one of your own quotes. No, if it was one of his quotes that he didn't remember. So I'm having to watch a lot of King of the Hill and a lot of P.K. You have to throw some in.

That wasn't me, right? No, that was Hank Hill. You'll get an experience and that's tax free. We need a couple of softball ones too where you'll be like alright, who's this? Fuck Robin Williams. I hate that guy.

That was that. Coward. Dying of fire. Yeah, dying of fire. By the way, I'm sorry about the pizza thing. I raced straight home to try to get PKA to start as close to on time as possible. What kind of pizza did you get?

It's some trial thing, like Mushroom Swiss or something. What kind of pizza did you get? It's some like trial thing like mushroom Swiss or something. That sounds terrible. A trial thing? Like you know how like Wendy's will have that jalapeno sandwich for a limited time? That's what I should have said. Limited time. And I saw it and thought like that one. I don't know.

Try not to pay too much attention. That's not how I shop for pizza. I'm very regimented in my pizza selection. You know, it depends on the people I'm with, but that's only because I'm courteous. The people who just, like, demand they need cheese pizza, fuck you, that's rude. Like, you can deal with a couple toppings and pick it off, okay?

If there's a big group, deal with it. Get a Supreme. So my flight instructor is from Germany. And they have like a stricter kind of dinner culture. Like here, of course, like you don't put your elbows on the table, right? But if I see elbows on the table, like so long as you're not like prison guarding your food and like I don't really notice or care. Like, you know, just chill about the whole thing. Like, you know, just chill about the whole thing.

These guys, like, we're out at a restaurant, and they see people not using the knife in the left hand and the fork in the right, and they're like, oh, you know, in Germany that would be considered very rude. And it's like, really? Like, you're giving me shit about my knife hand? Oh, I brought my camera. Real quick, though, about the manners thing. When I was a kid, or not a kid, I guess I camera. Real quick, though, about the manners thing. When I was a kid, or not a kid, I guess I was a young

adult, like 12, 13, they had this thing called cotillion. It's mainly popular in the Midwest and the South. I don't know if you had a cotillion thing you had to go to, Kyle, where you basically learn proper eating etiquette and how to swing dance and a bunch of shit. I hated it. I hated it, but

I was 13, so I had no control over my life and like every wednesday after school uh now like six i'd have to go and hang out with a bunch of people my own age who didn't want to be there except for a couple of girls and this old hag woman would stand there and lecture us on the proper way to consume bread and soup and how to use napkins. One of the things, God, what was it that was so fucking bananas? Yeah, I got scolded during our trial dinner, I guess, because they took us out to a fucking Marriott and gave us bad spaghetti to watch us eat it. Does anyone else realize what a ridiculous fucking rich kid problem this is?

Like, oh man, let me tell you about finishing school. They taught me to swing dance and I'd rather not have. rich kid problem this is? Like, oh man, let me tell you about finishing school. You know? They taught me to swing dance and I'd rather not have. Yeah, that's what it was. It was just knowing that, like, I could be home playing video games, I could be playing street hockey, I could be, you know, at the ice rink or doing anything else. But no, I'm sitting here getting berated by this 62-year-old

bitter single woman because I cut my food like this and then I eat with the same hand. You're apparently not supposed to do that. That's a European style of eating. What you're supposed to do is cut your food in the American style, then set your knife down, facing you with the blade on the top of your plate, then you

invert your handle on your fork, scoop it up and eat it, and then you pick it up again and do that whole dance of eating. And that's nonsense. Filthy. Did you hate finishing school as much as Taylor did I found out my trust fund our allocution lessons were they were they tough yeah my violin lessons allocution allocution yeah very tough not as not as tough as the violin. Is that a pronunciation thing? Kitty had to take the allocution lessons.

No, I didn't. That was the only silly thing like that I had to do because I really made it clear to my mom, because she was into it and so she was one of the moms that would stay and watch the whole thing and be out there in the foyer like, oh man, he's using it. Strange species.

Another thing. You can't take your whole roll and just butter your roll and eat it like people do no you're supposed to tear off individual pieces like a somalian child who hasn't eaten in days just trying to hold like a little bit and then you butter each individual piece i gotta say i know all this stuff just just by observation like like that's that's how i've noticed that you know people do do it most of the time it seems like the proper way to do it like i don't i wouldn't like i wouldn't be like oh let me make sure i put my knife the you know blade up on the center of the table facing me but like i know that i should

put my knife down before i you know i didn't know the facing me part and i didn't know the tearing the bread part i did know which hands to use and of course I hold it properly. But I could see my knife not facing me. I think I've known zero of these things so far. Putting your knife... And honestly, my life has been better off not knowing these. What kind of barbarian are you? What, do you just pick the steak up and take a honk out? Sometimes I put my elbows on the table.

I find a very good place for my elbows. Ah! And they told me to chew with my mouth closed and to wear deodorant. Yeah, I just thought that was silly Putting down your knife when you're eating a steak Is nonsense You're going to need it right afterward And I don't want to cut up my entire steak And then eat it in little bits like I'm a child

That's actually a thing too That's not proper You cut a piece you eat that piece Don't go cutting your whole thing Like some savage and then eat it. There's no rationale behind this. This is just a social norm. This is someone at some point has sat down and been like,

this is the way that the people of breeding and quality do it. So why the fuck do I give a shit about this? But it blows your mind that stuff like this is taught, and taught to children as something that they should aspire to and be worried about and be reprimanded for because it just doesn't make any sense yeah it's some it's like a west egg bourgeois thing that they saw like new money coming in they're like fuck they're infiltrating how about we eat really weird and and confuse them and shame them for it they're like that's good that's good we're all gonna get so that you can pick them out. Oh, look at Francois over there.

No one ever taught him how to use his knife. Keep an eye on him. He's not one of us. I think it's more like that. So I get that old money is the prestige money, right? Generations of class, you know, in your heritage. But is it new money, the better money? Because new money to me means they

earned it. It depends. Or they won the lottery. Let's say it's earned it like it depends if you have or they won the lottery but let's say it's not the lottery but if you have new money that means like you're a man of accomplishments right if you inherited it if you're old money then you are just born into privilege you're probably a shit what if we can flip that around though what if new money is you know a product of a circumstance and you might be lucky it doesn't have to be lottery lucky it could be right time right place title lucky or like you know even right time right place let's take mark cuban right mark cuban had that like he put radio or something on the internet that broadcast thing made a billion dollars dude that's a man of accomplishment

you know i'm not saying that he could like if it wasn't that it would have been some other billion dollar idea no he probably was like a combination of luck skill and you know opportunity i was thinking more of like the actions rather than like the way they get there like old money in my head it's someone who you know drives a 1998 nice lincoln that's still in good shape they like it and they just like driving it around you know in 2016 maybe it's like a 2004 some nice luxury car but they take care of it new money is a new fucking you know escalade every eight months or every nine months when the new model comes out or whatever and you get the big gaudy rims and it's all like in your face you know that's like i was thinking more like the behavior i hear you and like in that of it, I do like the older car guy more.

But that new guy who bought the Escalade, he might have – and let's assume that this is a wealthy guy, right? Not a guy who spent his last penny on those rims. He probably did something that's worthy of your respect. How much did they make for Facebook? Is that worthy of my respect? Yes. Really?

For making Facebook it is, I think. We consume a lot of dumb shit and a lot of shit that I don't think is particularly valuable in any way. And just because people buy it and pay for it and make you rich does not make that a product that is valuable. Dude, Facebook is insanely complicated, right? If you make a website and you'd be lucky to serve a couple thousand people, Facebook serves millions.

What they did there requires PhD-level engineering. That is a very impressive product, even if you think that it doesn't bring great social worth. You can have impressive technical achievements that are not particularly valuable I don't want to say morally, but potentially from making society better or something, right? You can have very expensive,

very complicated, essentially, toys. Right? Right. Sure. Facebook might be the best broadcast system we have on this whole planet. If you needed to send an emergency out to as many humans as possible right now and you only wanted to use one I'm dying. Ten likes. You might update on Facebook real quick.

Asteroid inbound duck and cover motherfuckers. Like that might be how you do it to get to hit the most people as quickly as possible. It is very impressive. But I see your point there. Yeah, it's probably not the – we probably could have focused all that time and energy into doing something more fruitful for mankind. I see your point but I don't like it. Because I feel like it's, you know, like, oh, yeah, Facebook. It's not that cool.

You know, way to do something really cool. Come on, we play video games on the internet, right? Like, why are we passing judgment on the creators of Facebook? Because the argument that you're making or the suggestion that you're making is that anyone who's made money, who's made new money, is somehow worthy of respect just because they've made that money. And I don't agree with that. And the anyone thing is a bit of a straw man there. But what I'm saying is that if we look at the old money and the new money, it's quite likely that the new money person made that.

They did something. They might run some plumbing business with 75 trucks and managed to keep that all cooking. They might have, I don't know, invented the best water filter system in all of West Virginia. They probably did something there that they weren't saying nice for.

They might have sold truck balls or something. They might have gave mortgages at terrible rates or whatever the fuck. They might have caused the economy to crash by screwing people out of their hard-earned money. Like, the fact that they have money doesn't mean that they made that in some way that's worthy of respect.

Okay, but if you're making a new versus old money argument, the old money people might have done that as well. Like, that's not an argument, you know, that favors one over the other. I feel like I think that I introduced the old money, new money. I introduced it as a behavior thing to explain, like, they act differently, and that might be the reason that difference in behavior in why old money people don't like new money people because they feel like they're being encroached on it's not that

one's better or worse i was saying that might explain why old money don't like new money as much i follow it like new money because because they they don't have the breeding they they're they're they don't have as much class because the people who have established wealth through generations have a way of doing things. And they associate with a certain group of people. And all of a sudden, you've got some guys coming in with camo hats worth a billion dollars. And they look at that guy and they're like, he's not one of us. That's the end of the story. That's what it is.

You're completely right. And there's a part of me that I like old money behavior a lot. But if I were to pick which group did something, the inheritance group or the group that wears camo hats, like Duck Dynasty, right? They've got – excuse me. I'm told Duck Dynasty has tons of money, right? Those guys made tons.

They wear those camo hats, so you'll keep buying those duck calls, by the way. Those guys are crazy like a box. Look at the pictures of them before that show. They don't have beards and camo hats. They got polos. They're clean, shaven, wearing suits and shit. Those guys have college educations. That's a smart group of guys. They're just putting on accents and selling

duck calls to A&E. Or the American Chopper guys, right? The American Chopper guys, Paulie and paul senior making the motorcycles they might seem like you know oh you don't want but dude they they made a thing there like they did created that they marketed it that suddenly their t-shirts and hats are on everybody like yeah you know maybe they use too many curse words but i respect what they accomplish yeah i do too it's just it and it is easy to undercut any kind of achievement that's not directly beneficial to people where it's like,

oh, oh, you know, the fucking Kardashians, you know, you don't deserve all that. And it's like, yeah, maybe you don't, like, but the world's not fair and they do entertain a number of people and the advertisers who pay to advertise while they are on there pulling in eyes, they clearly earned some of that money. You know, Purell fucking hand sanitizer isn't going to come advertise with me.

I don't deserve those millions of dollars from fucking Pampers or whatever. She's done something to keep people... So I don't have... I've never seen the Kardashians, really. It's a slippery slope. It's not on my TV. Kim Kardashian.

It's entertainment, and they're providing a service that is being consumed. So at the end of the day, you can be as dumb as you want. They are earning that money. Different kinds of value. You've got to be clear on that. There's different kinds of value and we're talking purely about marketing value.

We're talking about how marketable a faux celebrity is. The particular point that bothered me, the point that I really disagree with, is the fact that it is necessarily a valuable or meaningful contribution just because they have made wealth in some way. They've done something to make wealth.

There's no arguing about that. Well, you're saying it again, though. Like, I didn't say it was a valuable and meaningful contribution. I said it's more impressive to make it than inherit it. That was really the core of the argument. And you say, no, nothing impressive about Facebook. Well, I think it's actually good to finish saying that.

Actually, what I said is there's a way you can flip that around. We talked about kind of the new money side of that. You can flip the old side around to that too. If they've made money once, they have to do something to maintain that money. It's very easy to squander money. You see like the newly rich with like the lottery winners who are broke again in X years. There is something to be said about a family that has managed to keep their wealth

throughout however long it's been, especially if it's a very old family. Once you make that threshold, though, it becomes a lot easier. When you're worth $100 million, and you get to spend, I guess in that case, about $10 million every year, you know, congratulations.

You kept your budget within $10 million. Well done. I think your guys' disagreement is, I think you know, congratulations. You kept your budget within $10 million. You know, well done. I think your guys' disagreement is, I think you agree. You're just, you have a different idea of the word value. And you're using, like, have value. Filthy's talking about value in a moral kind of, for the, like, in the ethos of, like, you know,

that guy who came up with that, you know, medicine, that's value. Woody's talking about value insofar as finance. Like, even though this is stupid, it still provides a value. Not just that. Look, I get that not everything is life-saving medicine, right? Facebook has advanced the state of IT on planet Earth. You know, they've solved problems that hadn't been solved before

with their massively scalable and redundant systems um it's impressive to me i know they're serving up people's like memes and pictures of their children and shit propaganda yeah it's the trump's liberal propaganda they are like cutting out conservative uh articles now aren't they absolutely are um but more importantly they're proven i know it's been accused. What it looks like is that all three networks will have a thing trending,

but you'll see that Fox News and stuff doesn't go up. I think what they're saying is that they're handpicking things to trend because they're not really trending. There's no algorithm telling things to trend. They're saying, oh, this will trend and that won't trend. I think that's the complaint but yeah it seems like there's

yeah of course yeah there are humans that pick what trends and I think it's an algorithm but it's influenced by humans like you know they can remove and add to it I don't remember what the news story was the other day but it was like CNN is trending with that story

MSNBC is trending with that story, Fox News' post has like 200% the interaction with it but it's not trending. It's like, what's going on here? Fox has clearly got the scoop here or the bigger audience but you're not putting theirs on the trending thing? They do have the biggest audience, Fox.

Do you really think that Facebook is going to promote the conservative outlet over the liberal? Oh, I don't want them to. And I honestly don't use Facebook even a little bit. Like a personal Facebook, like I have one, but I don't have a friend on that fucking thing. Does Fox have the biggest audience? Yes. Oh, yeah. So here's what I thought.

You can tell me if I have this wrong, because I'm out of date. By a lot. But I thought that Fox had by far the biggest cable audience. So bigger than MSNBC, bigger than CNN, etc. But that bigger than CNN, et cetera, but that the network audiences like ABC were bigger than the cable Fox. That's not true? Well, Fox has a network as well, and they have network affiliates and all that stuff.

My thought was that Fox really dominated the whole thing. Now, I know if you're talking about sitcoms and primetime and stuff like that, then I don't know who the winner is. I know NBC has been doing shit for years and years, but I don't know who's winning. I don't have any of those channels. As far as the news though, the actual news, Fox is the biggest by quite a lot. Certainly in the cable news game, like you said.

There's a ton more conservatives out there. It's just that Fox is the one for conservatives, and the left side It's just that Fox is the one for conservatives, and the left side has a couple that people are distributed about, I think. I bet if you combine CNN and MSNBC, you don't equal Fox News. It's also more entertaining. You could be right. And whether you like it or not, Stern talks about this a lot, about why Fox wins.

He's like, those women are beautiful. It's just hot blondes with legs all day. That's the Fox news network it's great is their most popular show fox and friends i don't know but that is a popular show on this website and tv about the o'reilly factor right i thought that was gonna be it yeah but um it looks like the cbs evening news is the biggest at second because i'm skipping over some of these that aren't news to me like the today show but the cbs evening news is only on at second because i'm skipping over some of these that aren't news to me like the today show but the cbs evening news is only on for what an hour two hours a night or

something like that i don't know what yes fox news is 24 7 like fox might get because more eyeballs if you compare a day's worth of fox news to the section that's evening news but influence would be much more 19th compares to second on cbs evening news let me see if i can find another source i i think i think if you're just the best way to to compare it would be just fox the cable news networks we know fox is like the juggernaut there that's that's the main argument i think there there definitely are um they crush cnn and and in msn probably combined but um yeah you're definitely right about, in terms of cable ones, Fox is the runaway winner. So you're a big Donald Trump supporter, right, Filthy?

Yeah, absolutely. I've seen your Twitter. I saw that you were supporting the campaign. I saw you at the rally last week. Yeah, everything he's ever said just seems so legitimate to me. It resonates with me. It just resonates deeply. Filthy was like, I'm just tired of these career politicians.

Like, how is that a good thing? Build a wall has become a slogan in my life in many, many ways. I got the tattoo. Did you get the tattoo yet? You know, I haven't done that yet. But that's, you know, I thought on our wedding day, maybe after we finish the ceremony, we could go get the build a wall tattoo. Oh, when you put your arms together, it forms the wall. Yeah, that's beautiful. And if you look real far in the background you see like a little mexican child

way in the background on a tattoo yeah i actually do like trump um um we've been following i went to one of the rallies a while back it was a real shit show it was a lot of fun um but but he's it's just a clear choice between hillary and and trump and for me it's trump but the whole thing's been fascinating i've loved this election. Filthy, who do you like? I'm going to guess you're feeling the burn. Am I on target? I'm feeling the burn.

Well, he's not officially out, right? Oh, he's burning. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's like a slogan that people say, that feel the burn, hashtag feel the burn. To be honest, I don't follow politics very closely. And when I do, it tends to be much broader than that. I mean, for me, it's like the last eight years of my life, I've been glad that when my president opened his mouth, it didn't embarrass me as a country.

So I'm really kind of not looking forward to, you know, if Trump hits this, you know, it's scary stuff for me. It doesn't matter if Hillary or Trump wins. When your next president opens their mouth, they will be lying. When I was in LA were we were driving through town i'm in the passenger seat of course and i look and i see a sign that says feel the burn and i was like wow he bernie's buying billboards out here he's got the money and it's a big billboard and i mean it's like a prime location i don't know the road names but melrose or something like that

we're in a great area and i get a little closer and it, it's never too late to get checked for gonorrhea. I was like, but they were using Bernie's colors. It was the blue with the white and the double red underline or whatever. It was totally – So all his branding was on there. Yeah, they branded it Bernie. It says, are you feeling the burn question mark or something of that nature. Then I get there, and it's like, go get checked for gonorrhea blah blah blah and like statistics and little fine print down there i was like that's hilarious that would be so funny if that's the hillary

campaign i don't know man the trump stuff like running on like the misogynistic and like anti islam like campaign like i watched some uh it was a trump promotional video of some sort it was a him reading a poem and it was like a poem about picking up a snake and it was a trump promotional video of some sort it was a him reading a poem and it was like a poem about picking up a snake and it was set to a backdrop of uh all these like uh is i think it was um violence like religious violence videos and it was about this woman who picks up a snake and gets bitten by it and is surprised and it's like trump reading this to like somewhere set to this imagery and it's just a pure it's a pure message of like fear and hatred and it's i don't understand how like okay well most of the video there they were showing

like the migrants in europe attacking people in europe as like that's what i'm talking about yeah so you've seen it too yeah i like that one that that one really spoke to me i agree with it i agree with him you've got wait why is it wrong these weren't staged actions that he was cherry picking these were things that happened why is it wrong to show that side of it? Because this is a campaign that's based on this. It's a campaign that's based on lack of fact and based on just pointing fingers and being like, you have to be scared of these people. This woman's on the rag when she questions me.

We don't need to be any sort of political expertise. It blows your mind, the stuff that comes out of his mouth and he's said. And then it's actually not presented as like, oh, we're apologetic about this. This is the campaign being run on this. I like it. In the past, you see other politicians. It's great to talk. It's not picking his words carefully. It's saying what he thinks and it's what the majority of people think.

Actually, that's the part that scares me the most. And as far as pointing the finger at those migrants, someone needs to point the finger at them. They're committing many, many violent sex crimes over there in these countries where they've been let into. It's a huge problem there. You're seeing all kinds of... I can't stand the hypocrisy

of if this was happening, if Christians were doing this, it would never have come off the news. And because it's not Christians, and it's a harder group to go after because it's not Christians, and it's a harder group to go after because it's very much not in vogue right now to do that, nobody talks about it. Nobody cares at all because it's not...

People will rip on Christians constantly and still evoke the Crusades. I'm not a Christian, but... You can draw all the cartoons about the Christians you want. They won't show up at your newspaper and murder you like the muslims will they have i guarantee it because they they did it i'm happy to attack trump right i'm right there let's lead the train but do it factually the misogynistic thing is just not true you know it he is not heard the misogynistic comments so regardless of whether or not you can't really do it like i haven't one yeah i haven't either quote him what okay you're gonna have one the megan debate yeah that's the first one that comes to mind and again i don't follow this closely but that one alone comes off right there

she had blood coming out of her eyes she had blood coming out of her whatever i've shown you one so one you think so okay so hillary says the women are the primary victims of war they're the ones who lose their husbands and young young young african-americans in america need to be brought to hill they're the most violent crime offenders they need to be brought to hill wait she said that yeah of course that's what that black lives matter kid was holding up the sign next to her that said they need to be brought to heal because it's a hillary quote like i is there another term for heal other than the one used on dogs like no because it may literally be brought to heal like brought under control brought into check like i really there's some way that's less

racist than to use dog terms on them like i mean you use that on people to you know bring them to heal me it's not necessarily just an. It's sort of an expression. I don't think he's misogynistic because he hasn't shown a pattern of misogynistic behavior. You see people like Omar Rosa, even on his TV show where he's got complete control. He's got powerful women running this thing. He's got his daughter in powerful positions. Trump Tower

was built by a woman. As you look through his entire history of doing business, he puts women in position of power. His thing is always that, yeah, he'll say some nasty shit to you. He'll call you a bad name, but it's not coming from a misogynistic place, a racist place, a sexist place. He's the first one

to say, yeah, if you're transgender, pee wherever you want to in my building. He doesn't care. He's about performance. And when they ask him, you know, will a woman make the same as a man? He says, yes, if they do the same job, if they do as good of a job. And that's what you want, right? And they took him to task for that.

Should a woman make as many? Yeah, if she does just as good a job. And everyone's like, oh, my God, can you believe he said that? And I thought, yes, that's perfect. There's nothing sexist about if she does the same job, she gets the same pay. People pay the same work. Yeah. Now, I'm happy to attack Trump. I'm that's work yeah now i think we've had i'm

happy to attack trump i'm happy to have discussions like trump lies okay so hold on a second trump went on like they were interviewing him and they said look what was the guy the fake trump guy's name like john malloy or something what's his name do you know it oh i can't remember no idea okay so trump called this person and said no i'm not trump you know but i'll tell you trump is right in this situation trump's you know you're quoting him on that you're doing this spoke about uh john oliver recently it could have been i don't know but um anyway so so trump went on and he and then the interviewer played trump in this talking and we all know how distinctive trump is in his speech patterns right he's got the best speech patterns and he's sitting there

flat-out denying that it was him and I'm like you're fucking lying you're lying flat out to the tongue-in-cheek one though cuz I think everybody so casually he lies all the time every day even when he knows better and I don't like either of them. Don't you want your deal maker to be able to spin a yarn? I like that he's a liar I don't think he would have been good at his job I don't like that he's a liar Yeah I think good salesmen are liars sometimes you gotta bend the truth to make things you know move along

a little smoother. But we also don't want him to be strictly a salesman you know so that is one critique I do understand from the anti-Trump camp of like, he really doesn't know as much as a lot of these career politicians in regard to foreign policy, but then when I did give him a chance

and watch the foreign policy video, I was way more impressed than I thought I would because I thought it was going to be exactly what everybody tells you Trump is. And most of the people who tell you what Trump is don't know shit about him and haven't watched it anyway. And maybe some of them have watched more than me. I've watched hours of that. It wasn't a tenth as – I went into it being like this is going to be like a stand-up special.

Like what's going to go on here? Like I pictured him walking out like they're like, all right, all right, all right, everybody. What's going on tonight? Like that's what I was picturing. But he went out there and he was professional. I'm going to have the best foreign policy. alright alright everybody what's going on that's what I was picturing but he went out there and he was professional and the thing that drove me most his point about it was being like proud of your country

again I liked that where it was like it didn't come off as weirdly nationalistic and like you know and everyone else is inferior like it was like yeah we have a great country and we need to be proud of this country that we work to maintain. And it's become too incorrect.

Not let the Islamic people in. I'm getting a little shouted down here, and I don't mind that. That's okay. Again, this isn't an area that I'm super interested in anyways, the politics side of it. And you guys did kind of prompt me for what do I think about this, and I want to give a little bit of that you know some of the stuff that also bothers me

we'll drop the misogyny stuff for a minute if you like that's been my take from his comments and you kind of arguing different stuff i don't really care honestly in some sense i just that strikes me wrong from a political candidate but we'll ignore that for a minute some of the stuff that really does bother me that he's come up with is some of the climate change stuff like that stuff really bothers me too he's a climate change denier. And I mean, like I was reading this. This is a Reddit post of a news forum. So who the fuck knows where, you know, the actual factual out is.

But we're on here talking about essential opinions anyways. But this was the quote that was in this. And this was a link to, it was a Reddit post that linked to some news page. I don't remember which one it was. But it's talking about how he's like, I will reverse all of theama administration's climate change platforms done in the last eight years and i'm sitting there thinking like for one of the again like this scares the shit out of me that something like this may actually come to be as a policy and here's why i i don't like i agree with you i don't like these a climate change denier either it's clear quickly me too yeah we don't like that about him um however he has taken one thing you got to keep

in mind though is he's playing politician right now so he's taken plenty of steps to protect his golf courses in uh scotland or wherever that's too from future uh global warming so is he really keep in mind yeah there's his business literature that comes out talking about that but he denies it in public just keep in mind what you really have to read between the lines here is that trump believes in global warming but he probably shouldn't piss off the oil and gas people while he's already pissed off the entire GOP and pretty much everyone at large. He needs some people with money not to hate him right now. I've got two points. One is I'm a little frightened of voting for someone on the hope that they were just kidding about all their platform announcements.

Mine was – okay, come on. I don't like that he was a birther. That whole thing, Obama's really a Kenyan Islam plant thing, that's true. Oh shit, she did. Yeah, fuck. You know that?

That's the thing I don't like about Hillary also, that whole birther thing. That was crazy. You just forget that one because it's both of them. Just forget it because it's both of them. You can't even apply that one. Still crazy. Let me add this about him changing Obama's policies.

At first glance, you're like, shit, that's definitely a big step backwards, right, to all of a sudden let these coal plants do what they need to do or to allow fracking in this area, etc, etc. But when you boil down the actual difference between the way we're doing it now and the way Trump wants to do it, the actual difference

on the global scale is so minute and minimal that you would... This gets problematic because when we talk about... You would be like, well shit, we're fucked. Because the truth about on the global scale is so minute and minimal that you would scoff at it. You would be like, well, shit, we're fucked. Because the truth about global warming, inevitably, is that it's too late. It's coming. It's going to happen. We have already...

There's levels of impact, though. But we're not even close to the biggest polluter. This is like the patient who's dying of lung cancer going, who know, who's sick with this. It's like, oh, it's too late. I might as well just smoke 10 packs a day. You heard about the hangnail instead of the lung cancer, though.

It's China and India. It's China and India with over a billion each. I just got done two days ago watching the most recent of Al Gore's climate change talks on one of the TED Talks talking about the facts on this. And it's not. He's a really wimpy man talking talking about that flying his jet around the world well i mean i think i do not go back to one of the things you're talking about you're talking about admiration for trump for kind of his business savvy for this like you know he's lies to these people you know we'll we'll take some of his things as like kind of just like joking around because he's trying to he's trying to make the goal and the goal

for him is presidency right it this is coming here you're saying is admirable and i agree in a sense like you know you look at someone who's good at what they do you know and it's and if they lie or cheat and that's part of the job description they're good at that that's fucking great in some sense but the scary part of this for me is that he's going to be our president he doesn't have our interests in best in best mind not that any of them do but at least they pay lip service to the fact that they may do that right they pretend that they want our shit to be important and the the stuff that's going to matter to us to be important. He doesn't even give that.

You're like, I like that he doesn't, you know, placate and pay lip service to this shit. He's like so flagrant in his disregard of giving a shit about essentially us, right? But isn't the fact that he's lying about it demonstrating that he does pay lip service? Well, only in a sense, right? Because the level of lying that he does as a politician, the stuff he lies about, I feel is very different than the other politicians in this, right?

The other politicians are trying to be seen as politically correct, trying to be seen as not racist, trying to be seen as not misogynistic, trying to be seen as not anti-Islamic, trying to be seen as essentially moderates in a sense, right? Not, you know, as centrist as possible without offending their base. Right. And I agree with you that he doesn't do that, but I don't see that as a... Because of who he is and what he's running for. Well, no, again, in certain professions,

if that's my fucking lawyer, I'm all for that. If that's, like, my agent who's fighting for me and is willing to, like, bend the rules or whatever, I'm all for that. This is the president who's not fighting for me. he's fighting for himself to become the president and that's the bit that starts to worry me a little bit. What he said, he's like, yeah, I'm a greedy guy and now I'm going to be greedy for America.

And he did this when he said it, when he said I'm going to be greedy for America, he reached out and grabbed some imaginary money and threw it at the table and I was like, if there's a way to cut all these other lies are coming out of his mouth and he's he's he's willing to use these for his advantage for the same reason that people would buy bernie saying that college is going to be free it's something i want to believe but it's not but i'm never trying to sell this one or the other because this has always been no i'm just making a comparison i'm not saying you are okay yeah sure but i don't think the presidency is voting the lesser two evils right yeah like you're never going into this thing these people really give a shit about me and they're they're really out, but for me, the presidency is voting the lesser of two evils, right? Like, you're never going into this thing, these people really give a shit about me,

and they're really out there for me. Like, I don't, this message of change, bullshit. Like, when I see it, you know, I'll come back and be like, I was totally wrong, but I don't buy it for a minute. But I'm particularly worried about someone who doesn't even pay lip service to that pretense. I think that Trump is way more, I think he is way more liberal than any of the other conservatives who were in the running

by an order of magnitude Trump is way more liberal than them and it's only by his outlandish kind of comments and kind of smoke and mirrors that I think he's been able to distract a lot of ultra conservatives enough to get behind him and not really look into the

fact that hey this guy isn't super conservative in a lot of ways like look at the way he's lived his life in new york shitty because that's where this motherfucker's from he's donald trump of course he's a liberal of course he was pro-life his entire life until show business he was democratic for a long time he's literally a democrat that's what i like about him too because many of my i think the the things that i disagree with trump on on trump's policy on i don't think he really means him i don't think he really got but what a good thing if you're trying to be elected president if you can convince the people who if the stuff they disagree with him on he doesn't mean what a fucking phenomenal thing for running for president well yes except that you are the person he's convincing so the other end you go why I really

disagree to okay either he's brilliant either he's brilliant or I'm stupid but it's combining two for him winning right like one of those two things is happening it's such a negative it's a different question to start I think about Trump but do I think Trump will win I would have given you a slightly different answer because I actually think he probably will. I'm a bit scared about it. He's winning in Florida. He's tied in Pennsylvania against Hillary. These are the things that matter. We always

talk about, oh yeah, nationally he's ahead by X amount, Y amount. That shit doesn't matter. It's the battleground states. You've got to look at that old Mitt Romney map, and you've got to figure out if things like Minnesota are going to be in play. They're not. He's losing Minnesota. That whole Paul Ryan... The thing about Minnesota is, you had that Paul, who was the, Scott, Gary Scott, I think was their governor there. And he got recalled like two or three times. What that

caused is for the GOP ground game there to be the best in the entire nation. Are you looking for Scott Walker? Scott Walker. Thank you. Yeah, that guy. They had to keep running his election campaign over and over. Donald Trump's very anti that guy. The GOP voters in that state are tight as fuck with their governor. If their governor doesn't endorse Trump, Trump's not going to win that. He's not going to win Minnesota. I don't think that's going to happen. I think he's going to win Pennsylvania, though.

I think he's going to win Florida, though. The question is if he wins Ohio. And if he does that, I think he's the president. Literally, for the first week of his campaign i thought he i thought it was a joke i thought it was like an onion piece like joke everybody did this was i know right first first they laugh at you then they inspirational though they play like 10 minutes of everyone laughing at him and then trump has these quotes of course you know for in and who's at Gandhi? Maybe, you know, first they laugh at you and they like notice you and, you know, then they fear you. Something like that, you know, and it's like it plays so well into into that mold because there everyone is all the talking heads, all the people you're supposed to respect in politics and news.

And yeah, they're laughing at first. They ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Yeah. And then meanwhile, they play a montage of him winning. All they got to do is show, like, Maryland, like, Georgia, South Carolina,

and the music is... And you're just like, oh, shit, yeah, yeah. I don't want to watch a montage of Trump winning in politics. I want to see him winning in state by state, but do a Call of Duty montage. Let the bodies hit the floor. There's like New Jersey, New York, Connecticut. It's not going to be quite as satisfying as watching all of the Bernie supporters have their hopes dashed, but it will be funny if

Trump gets elected and the people who are going to be the maddest about that are all these conservatives who think that he is really on their side, and he's going to get in there and do fucking none of this stuff. There's no wall being built, you idiots.

None of this is going to happen, and it's going to be those conservatives who followed and if you go like building that we're following all of these Politicians can I say what's gonna happen all sects, but yeah, he's not gonna do any of this What do you feel the future here liberal than he's leading on he's going to call it a virtual wall He's gonna be like we've made a wall. There's like a firewall on the internet. There's trade barriers There's a virtual wall between America and Mexico. Is it a great? Is it a great? It's gonna happen There is going to be a wall a space a legit wall One's gonna be a tall fence razor concertina wire, whatever you call it There's no fucking walls in the hall. Give me three to one odds on this if you think it's so fantastical.

They're gonna play this back when there's a wall and be laughing. I'm gonna look like an ass. He's gonna build that wall. What's the time frame on the wall? In 2018, when they're smashing that big-ass bottle of Trump champagne on the side of that wall. And the Mexicans are all crying because – happy because finally their remittance is able to go back because they spent a whole year not able to send any of their money back home by wire transfer at all. Because of the digital wall.

The digital wall is how it starts. He talks about stopping. There's got to be a virtual wall. He's going to be talking about that a lot. The digital is how it starts. He talks about stopping. There's going to be a virtual wall. He's going to be talking about that a lot. The digital wall, the fire wall. Nobody's building brick and mortar walls on the Trump wall. That's the fire wall. That's where we burn them. There's no giant wall

made of snow and ice with Jon Snow on it between America and Mexico. Oh, what would that... This is going to be good. With what the men in black who guard Mexico. Oh, what would that... This is going to be good. We should come up with what the men in black who guard Trump's wall, what their saying is. Oh, yeah.

I'm going to spend time on that. What's the short saying? I know they have a whole oath, but I felt like they had a thing, like, until my watch is done, or maybe that's what I'm going for. And did they say that a thing like until my watch is done or maybe that's what i'm going for and did they say that a lot you know um until my watch is in it yeah i don't know the whole thing off the top of my head but i think there would be a funny one for trump's wall but

let's get off politics that's super polarizing and nobody likes that but i'm surprised your audience doesn't like the polarized opinions of like talking through that oh who fucking cares what they like i don't like the politics talk when it's everybody on the same page which is what i like we like i tried to join you from time to time now the audience will probably say we were being unfair to you but the truth is that we agree that he has many negatives and that he's often dishonest the the real core is because i talk a lot about Trump's positives, but because it's so depressing

for me to go into Hillary Clinton's negatives, because when you lay them all out there, it's really upsetting. I mean, just the cattle futures thing alone is just a clear... This is exactly like paying your fucking taxes. You go to the accountant, you pay him some ridiculous amount of money, he tells you, yeah, you only owe this much money.

And you're like, great, I guess I saved a a little bit here it still fucking sucks to pay my taxes it's the same with fucking choosing a president you're choosing the you know or voting for president you're choosing the lesser of two evils here's why i like it this time around here's why i like this time around i'm telling you why that's not the case for me i'm excited i'm excited to hear maybe you'll change my entire viewpoint on politics last time around my choice was right if mit romney wins the presidency what have i done now a lot of people think probably would have said that the mitt romney voters were fired up by the idea of denying a black man the presidency or something but but i

never saw any i was i was like well his mom was white right like what are we getting so excited for anyway i bet he tans i bet barack tans so hard to maintain that that what what if he's super light skin and he tans the fuck out of himself to to be that dark that'd be funny i'd love what he does do if he speaks to a white audience oh he's like all politicians do that right yeah that's true too when he speaks to a black audience all of a sudden it's like fancy handshakes and chest bumps and then you know like yeah i don't see i honestly i don't see a problem with that because he is relating effectively to the audience he's speaking to and it doesn't come across as as really gauche and shitty as when hillary's like oh i love hot sauce you know

i keep it in my purse yeah they're like really or are you just paying her into our audience right now she's like is it working That's the worst condescension. Just think about that for a second. How could you vote for that person who in all earnest? Oh, we got to stop. Are we really voting for who we like? Because that's the fallacy in and of itself. We hate.

I hate Hillary Clinton and all that she stands for. I hate her. I think her president's probably a rapist. As much of a rapist as bill cosby at least right like bernie sanders for president for sign him up for a fucking decade rather than hillary like i would yeah and filthy i disagree actually because i i have always liked the president i voted for at the time i was voting until this year i wanted to talk about it's always been for me i mean by the time i feel like by the time you get to the point i don't even vote national office like i'm always been for me. I feel like by the time you get to the point where you're running for national office,

all the people who you really like, who are really kind of with really your individual view or whatever it happens to be, they've been crushed out by the process, right? The process is now who is going to best be able to vote, get the votes needed to make this win. I don't feel like that ever happens for us. And, you know, I think he's done a good job.

I'd pick him for a third term over these two. Probably so, yeah. But here's the thing. If Hillary wins, then Trump goes back to being a billionaire, right? He just goes back to doing... He moves to the nicer home. Yeah, he's like, I don't have a little piece of real estate down on Pennsylvania Avenue anymore.

I can go to my place in Mar-a-Lago or wherever the fuck he's always bragged. Back to his golf course and builds up those seawalls. Which one? Which one? So the thing about on the other side of the coin, if Trump wins, he's promised to focus investigations on Hillary Clinton. There's a chance that Hillary is fighting for her life in this campaign. Really, it's funny, but that hillary is fighting for her life in this can see it really like it's funny but hillary is literally campaigning for her life right now because if trump gets in he's gonna be he's gonna have his justice department looking at hillary clinton a little bit more closely than maybe the obama one does i don't think that anything at all is going

to put hillary in jail like i don't i can't even believe that people have thought that for... I can't believe that people think this even has ever been a possibility. Like, this is basically our Kennedys. Like, they're not going to put a Bush in prison for that. They're not going to put a Clinton who's been in the political sphere in prison for that. Plus, there are laws that she broke, and there are penalties defined for it.

And the maximum penalty for the law that she's broken is getting fired. That's true. If your job's president, getting fired is a pretty big deal. There's a lot of legal analysts who have different ideas about which law she's broke. And we don't know the contents of all the emails. The contents of further emails could change what law she has, in fact, broken. If she's exposed CIA operatives, if she's, you know, she could be guilty of a lot more than...

I feel out of my depth. I'm really just parroting something that I've reported and I read. Another thing that I've heard thrown out there is because of her position as Secretary of State, in some instances, the burden is on her to interpret whether information

is regarded as classified in some way or not. So it doesn't matter if it even says it on top, she's supposed to, as Secretary of State, be able to just know. That thing is so foggy and there's so much going on there and we keep hearing about, oh, there's a hundred that she deleted here and three thousand that are missing here and oh yeah, the guy that works for his emails are missing too. And this guy was pleading the fifth and this guy won't talk. Yeah, I forget who it was,

but some top Hillary aide, they were like questioning her. The poor thing suffered the most massive memory loss during her questioning. She couldn't remember anything. That woman's getting hired again. Every political campaign from now on goes, we want that aid, because she doesn't

fucking say a word when they come asking. What did they call it when Walter White a fugue state? Yeah, she had a fugue state. She doesn't remember anything. She doesn't know what an email is anymore, sir. And you want to drag her into that deposition? Poor thing. She's texting her every day with a spoon.

She no longer even identifies as the Secretary of State. Another thing about Hillary, to close it out, that I thought was funny with all the people on Reddit or forums posting like, when is she going to release the transcripts of her speeches? And then being like, oh, she's scheduled to release them on X day. It's like, you have to be stone cold retarded to think that she actually gave speeches to a bunch of wall street executives behind closed doors no she did not actually give a speech

there is no way she went back there because i think they actually do speak and people have talked about the substance of their speeches who have been there and said that it's kind of a rah rah you're doing a great job goldman socks kind of line that they give and i feel like i've heard similar speeches not from politicians but like like jerry seinfeld came to talk at cisco and we had someone else too i don't know but we used to have like celebrities motivational guy come yeah and it would just seinfeld wasn't getting paid a quarter million dollars to be there by people who had a vested interest in Jerry Seinfeld's ability to get that power. Okay.

The rest of it, you know, I'm with you, but I bet his appearance fee was pretty substantial. I mean, the guy's like a billionaire. Yeah. You know,

so they paid a substantial fee and then he goes and talks about like how cool Cisco is. And like, so Cisco has this, this law, like their company tagline, changing the way we work, live, and learn and play. And Seinfeld's out there

like, yeah, I really like Cisco and the way that you change the way we work, learn, live, and play. And I'm like, fucking Seinfeld boned up on our propaganda before he gave this speech. I suspect... I wouldn't know how to play if not for Cisco.

But you do. I suspect. I wouldn't know how to play if not for Cisco. But you do. I mean, I bet you every shot you fired in Call of Duty has gone through a Cisco router somewhere in its path. Probably. Yeah, honest. So anyway, but like, and what I'm told, when I heard what her speeches were like, I thought, ah, I've heard those before.

Not from Hillary, but at our corporate things at cisco i just picture it as maybe she actually did give a speech i just think that's a very convenient way to buy access hand off money and it's a service not a product so there's no paper trail it's just hey she could have gone in there and said it's been great seeing you guys. $250,000. That's what I think it was. I really doubt she was rallying the troops, banging on the thing. Like, this is what we play for.

Come on, guys. Let's get out there and make some fucking money. When Bernie Sanders says, holy smokes, a $600,000 10-minute speech? That's a good speech. I think the people should just hear how wonderful a speech that is. You know, that speech must be something special. I think that's real tongue-in-cheek, right? You know, they're buying whatever they think they'll get from her if she continues to stay in power.

Clearly. Yes. The speeches are clearly an ancillary part of it that don't actually matter, which is why it's different than Jerry Seinfeld coming in and making you laugh. You know, because there was a reason for him to be there. To make you laugh, to kind of reward you. I'll tell you what. He didn't make me laugh. He didn't have any jokes prepared. There was no new

material he had coming. The only funny shit, and I personally loved it, was when he made fun of Cisco. We had at the time a small camera called Flip. do you guys remember those no it was like one of the first vlogging cameras it was a little bigger than a deck of cards and you could like face it and anyway um and and you know like our the ceo gave him one and he's

like oh thanks and he's like here's the manual but you won't need it and he's like, oh, thanks. And he's like, here's the manual, but you won't need it. And he's like, yeah, yeah, just put this with my other shit. Like, it was so awesome to see how not give a fuck he was about this product that, like, we were excited about. And I'm like, oh, yeah, here's a guy who's not paid to smile. Well, I guess he is paid to smile at that guy, but doesn't give a fuck, you know? Yeah. And that guy's not like oh i can maybe now i can shoot a tv show or and it could even be the most successful sitcom of all time like no he's got real people with real cameras following him around when he's acting which speaking of which

when me and kyle have been playing company i'll wait for him to talk about this but basically it was every night that we've been playing company of heroes i've been been leaving Seinfeld on my TV while we're playing. And so he can basically hear the audio of the episode as we're playing. And he pipes in with Seinfeld quotes and whatnot, which that explains a lot of our Seinfeld references recently. Because if you would join us for Company of Heroes 2, you'd be getting all of them. But the downside is that, one, I'd be playing Company of Heroes. And two, I'd be hearing Seinfeld. Oh, you don't even know.

Yeah, so as tempting as your offer may be. I cannot. Filthy, do you enjoy Seinfeld? I'm glad it's over. Nice. Parts of it were interesting, but I feel like it went on for so fucking long. Some of the episodes were funny. I remember watching this in probably

middle school and we would come in as middle school children and talk about the episodes that was happening prior to school. I don't know. I feel like Seinfeld is good, right? It's good. It's How I Met Your Mother good. It's Friends good. It's one of the many

shows. Everybody loves Raymond good. People are going to disagree with this. I know that. It's been put way better it's it you know it's one of the many shows it's it's uh everybody loves raymond good and people are going to disagree with this i know that it it's been put on this pedestal and revered as the greatest sitcom ever to be written you know and enacted like the best there's been but for me like i like the office more oh man i won't watch reruns of signpost so i'll change the channel if it like comes and it's something I'm watching oh I fucking love Seinfeld but it is

it's a really character driven show so it's not just like what people say where it's all the writing that has to do with why I enjoy it so much because it's clever and it's the sense of humor that I like but it's mostly like George Costanza like he is that fucking character like when George Costanza, he is that fucking character.

When George Costanza is saying, George is getting upset! Or something, you see him getting upset and it's hilarious, and he is George Costanza. A lot of shows don't get that. Whatever his name is from fucking Malcolm in the Middle was Walter White.

He really grew into that guy and you didn't even see him as anything else. George is George Costanza. Kramer is fucking Kramer until he yelled the N-word at people in a comedy club. He's still Kramer to me. I don't like the racism in such.

What racism? What did I come into? Remember Kramer's racist rant? Oh yeah, Michael Richards. He repeated in bombs. Yeah he some guy was heckling him and it was going poorly for him so it was like i'm bombing and you're really rubbing salt in the wound and he attacked back with the the meanest thing he knew how to say and he he's like, I'm not racist. I was just trying to hurt that guy. You know, if he was, I don't know, white, he would have picked something else. You crooked tooth person or something.

I don't know. Meanwhile, he's trying to sell those DVDs because they were like just about to come out. So I remember this bullshit where like Jerry and Michael Richards are on maybe Letterman and the crowd, he's like, Michael comes out or whatever and they boo Michael immediately. And Jerry's like, no, no, hang the crowd, he's, like, Michael comes out or whatever, and they boo Michael immediately, and Jerry's like, no, no, hang on!

And, like, somebody tried to laugh. Somebody tried to laugh when they brought, Jerry's like, yeah, he had a little incident the other day, and everybody's like, ha ha ha ha! And he's like, no. No, it's not funny. It's not funny! Hey! He yelled the unword at a bunch

of black people! In the middle of the comedy club no less like jerry stood by him right um jerry stood by those dvd cells he got him out there remember when wings went went off the uh the reservation and then you did that dual com which time oh the the 1v1 yeah yeah you did that dual com with him on your channel and like you have to apologize for him, but he sits there like... He refused to. Yeah. And like, he literally does not say I'm sorry in his own apology video

that you made for him. What is a good friend? I never watch this video. It's hilarious. Another time. So, but that wasn't this. Michael came out and was clearly like, sad, and he had been coached well. And I'm telling you, those DVDs were coming out.

Remember, think about the money that's involved with DVD sales, okay? The overhead is zero because they already own the product. Larry David and Seinfeld are poised to make hundreds of millions of dollars, and they did. And then he starts dropping N-bombs, and he's all over the news and it was it was a real thing that was big news back then but i don't think that michael richards is the racist i think i think more of michael richards than i do of mel gibson and i really don't hold it that that shit against mel gibson anymore at this point um can we forgive him i mean i guess i don't have do i have a leg to stand on to listen to the mel listen to the Mel Gibson tapes and not to laugh.

Can I as a white man even forgive Mel Gibson? Or do I have to be a woman, a homosexual, or a Jew? If you just identify as those, I'm cool with it. Because that's who he is. And I mentioned those particular ethnicities. I identify as a female Islamic Jew. Yeah. Those are two that you can't mix.

Oh. When you identify, you just make it up. No, it's like baking soda and vinegar. I identify as a craft volcano. Yeah. Like an honor killing at that rate. You better just nip that in the bud. What I got today.

So I want to see your wallet thingy because I got this. I think it's inferior to yours. Oh, I don't claim mine. My mine looks really really similar to yours it's plastic and a rubber band yeah that's it you nailed it this thing is all right this is our this is my wallet now this is everything this is like this is a lot of cards in here this is like eight or ten cards um and it fits like in my pocket it's it's smooth and and like on the outside um dude check out like the similarity like that's the band my brand is called the rate uh radix one r-a-d-i-x nailed it oh yeah i got the white one um so when it showed up though because this thing was 12 and i wanted it quickly so i I paid $4 for shipping.

I was like, yeah, get it over here. Because you urgently need a new wallet. I like the – Replacement wallet stat. What it was, I had my old wallet in my pocket, and I needed that pocket, and it was lumpy. And I was like, you know, I want that thing Woody has. I want something like that. I didn't know this was the one you had, but this one looked like the good one.

It's $12 plus four bucks for shipping i get it here and i was so disappointed because let me like disassemble it and show you what at this point i'm okay with it because i i realized that that's what you've got and i didn't get some like insane piece of crap it's two pieces of of plastic and this like live strong fucking rubber band yes and we got you to pay 16 dollars for that man someone's doing something right right that's what i thought but it's a genius because it it puts all your cards in there and i don't show any fucking credit card numbers how absurd would that be that's a woody move right there um but but you can do like credit cards facing one way and identification facing

the other that's what i do so it's really quick to access the stuff and then i can kind of flick through them real quick like going through a deck of cards and get to it it's real handy i put my most used credit card on the front and i intend to put my driver's license in the back it's not there right now yeah that's what i got there and i. I think actually I got the concealed carry permit because I feel like that's the one I really want to get out in a hurry if I need to. And then I slip dollars. I carry three 20s.

That's like my thing. If I have something that's less than a 20, then I just give that shit to my wife. And if I have something that's more than a 20, I give that shit to my wife. I just carry three 20s. That's thing what's this a 10 but i do it with 50s too if it's a 50 i'm like oh this breaks the system i carry three 20s that's that's how i roll oh you joking about throwing away the 10s and the 50s reminded me there was a guy on my hockey team when I was like 14 maybe. And, uh, one of the rinks was at a mall. It's now like a ghost town of a mall, but it's still there. And so we'd get there early and just walk around the mall,

young kids like hanging out at the mall and then have practice. And me and this kid would walk around and his mom would give him money and be like, Ben, you can spend this 30 bucks or whatever. And then she'd come to me and be like, Taylor, you need spend this 30 bucks or whatever. And then she'd come to me and be like, Taylor, you need to get all the change, all the coins, because Ben won't touch metal. And I was like, what? And she's like, yeah, he will not touch metal. He's afraid of the germs on the coins.

He wouldn't use metal utensils at restaurants. He'd bring his own plastic utensils everywhere. Oh, shit. It's good as a kid. Nicholson. Yeah, it was basically like me encouraging him at the time. What's etiquette with plastic utensils? Is it the same?

Is what? What's etiquette with plastic utensils? Exactly the same? Same rule of thumb or different? It's the same until you interject the spork. And there are a whole lot of rules for the spork that we don't have time to get into now. I feel like this is a question.

What was the school? The finishing school? It's a cotillion. A cotillion, yes. Yes, a grand cotillion. Did they teach plastic utensil manners at the school? They did not.

They did teach, though, that if you eat a hot dog, you take the hot dog out of the bun, cut a piece, and then tear off the bread like a roll, and then put it back in and eat it. She must have hated children, the woman who taught them. Just hated them. I don't buy that.

No way did they teach hot dogs. What do you do with pizza? Roll it up into some sort of a cylinder and take a bite off the end? What the fuck? No, pizza is a low-class food. You're not supposed to eat it. Say the finishing school one more time.

Oh, no, it's not an actual school. No, no, but what is it called? Cotillion. Cotillion, with a C. Cotillion. I'm thinking Corinthians for some reason. That wasn't, like, the name of it. It's just that's what my mom would tell me. I thought, like, you're going to Cotillion.

I thought Cotillion was, like, a prom or, or like a formal gathering of some sort. It is, and I don't remember what they're actually short for. Prometheus. Promenade. Promenade. You know, to promenade. Oh, to promenade. I thought you were going to have some really naughty acronym.

Like, you know, people removing all MeUndies or something. I like acronyms. Do you know what Scoop is? And O is not how you spell all ofUndies. I like acronyms. Do you know what scuba stands for? And O is not how you spell all of it. I'm going to pre-em. I like acronyms. Do you know what scuba stands for? Yeah, self-contained underwater breathing apparatus.

Yeah, and ATM is an... Automatic teller machine. Automated teller machine. And I used to know so many which what gay people now try and get all those oh lbgtq lgbt again lc no there's like I don't I don't know either so I can't say if you're right or wrong but there's at least like seven in there now that you guys did not get it

sexual gay transgender what's the cool I can't say if you're right or wrong, but there's at least like seven in there now. So you guys did not get it. Bisexual, gay, and transgender. Well, that's the cool group. There's more. There's more. It's like the original group. Queer's in there again somewhere. Getting to the like tiger force and the ones with the star mask. Like, don't even get into that.

The cloppers. The cloppers of America. The adult diaper babies of Michigan. Like, you don't all get your own classification. Just find somewhere to fit into the LGBT, and we'll be all good. Those are the classics, and then the other ones are like

when they just started throwing shit at the wall at the end of that 70s show, seeing who would stick. You know, just put another letter in there. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Wait, wait, wait. I have it. LGBT QQI AAP. No, no, you just made, this is not, no. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, allies, and pansexual.

Bam. Sounds pretty damn close to what it might actually be. It flows out the tongue like that acronym, doesn't it? L-G-B-T-Q-Q-I-A-P. It's easy. You're looking at it, right? LGBTQQIAP. It's easy.

You're looking at it. You know it's a good acronym here when you don't get to a vowel until you're seven in. At least put the vowel closer. I like the double Q sound in English too. That's an easy one to pronounce. You're right. You go seven in

and then you hit three vowels in a row. They really should have mixed it up. They should have. They were so set in their ways lgbt first that weren't willing to just switch the letters up and make it a word so the x-men movie bombed i know no one here watched or anything um but my wife i think it's making some decent money but but I think the critics are not liking it very much. And I'm glad, because I'm burnt out on the X-Men. I'm tired of it. I got tired of it. Just don't say that, though, because you know what will happen next?

It will be the remix of the X-Men. It will be like what they did with the fucking Spider-Man shit. They'll restart the whole series at number one to make people like you happy. The problem with the X-Men is they've already rebooted it once, technically speaking, or at least once, because they nixed like two or three of those movies with an alternate timeline change about halfway through this series of movies and so like it's the same story with different actors like thank god for that right and and i'm not into it because

they're making jennifer lawrence's Mystique such a major character. And in the comics and the cartoons, she's not. And I'm a little burnt out on Jennifer Lawrence. Maybe that's the end thing to be, is to be burnt out on Jennifer Lawrence. But I just am a little. I'd like to see her again. We could make that happen. I feel like you're a year and a half out of date.

Okay, well, fair enough. No, Taylor, with the sweetheart comment. Oh. Yeah, I feel like now the world has turned against, you can't call it, J-Law? Is that her? Yeah, J, fair enough. No, Taylor with the sweetheart comment. Oh. Yeah, I feel like now the world has turned against... You can't call her J-Law? Is that her? Yeah, J-Law. Yeah, I almost called her J-Lo. But, yeah, the world has turned against J-Law and her folksy, I'm-just-one-of-you appeal.

What did she do? Does she even have to do anything? A couple of bad movies, I guess. I feel like if you're popular for a few years, people will start shitting on you even if you're saving the whales last year i thought it was a shitty movie which she got nothing for i don't remember the name of it it was like joe or beth or like one word and a girl's name or something like that it was a it was about her like she was playing some like female uh gangster character and i didn't care for it i didn't think she did a good job but she was still nominated for it it's just a popcorn movie but i enjoyed that like 16 hours in benghazi benghazi oh you had really called you got i

think i messed up the title a little bit yeah the the michael bay benghazi movie that has um john krasinski who played Jim from The Office and it also has the guy who plays Roy from The Office. They had the love triangle with Pam. I love that meme that I saw where it's like Jim talking to Roy.

He's like, Roy, I need you back in the game. He's like, I'm out of that game, man. It's been years. He's like, they've got Pam. The next scene, just them both locked and loaded and like full military gear like next to each other like like yeah It's like really good as I sit here and eat my pizza I it's somewhat inspiring to see these like the gym from the office all of a sudden like Chris pratted up and get like Physique I am a big John. he's one of those actors that you

wish for them to get roles and like You wish good things to happen to them. I hope he finds a good wife. No, I don't care about that. I want to see him make a lot of money. He's a working actor. I want to see him succeed. I want to see him get

his own series. I want to see him get his own TV show. I want to see him succeed. I want to see him get his own series. I want to see him get his own TV show. I want to see him in a leading role in a movie. So when I see John Krasinski, a couple years ago, he was in that fracking movie with Matt Damon. Did a really good job at that. And now here he is. Now here he is playing an action kind

of guy, and he's bulked up big time. Totally took some PEDs. There's no way. That guy was skin and bone. He was like skinny fat. He looked like an no way. That guy was skin and bone. He was like skinny fat. He looked like an office worker. Sometimes he got to skinny fat, but early in the show, which I think is his young physique,

the fit version of him, or at least the skinny fat version of him, just him in shape, his arms are very small. I mean, he's a very skinny, lanky guy, and they make note of it and make fun of it a lot in the show about his, about him being lanky and so tall and everything.

But he really, really, really bulked up. So I'm always impressed with that too. Jake Gyllenhaal does that. He's crazy like that. I always like to see that in movies where they alter their bodies and go all out. I get into actors. I like to see it in non-healthy ways more. Like, I like to see it in The-healthy ways more. Like, I like to see the machinist

where you watch it and you're like, oh, gee, is he gonna die in this scene? Like, not as a joke, but for real? Yeah, you know the image I'm talking about, right, Phil? He's a machinist. It's disgusting when you see him standing in that mirror and it's like, his skin's

almost translucent. Like, I guess that's his doctor at the time, and I don't think he's been playing SID for about two years. No fucking sunlight. Yeah, I don't remember if this was a fact or not, but apparently his physician had to tell him to like lose weight more slowly and to stop when he did because he was like,

you're getting to the point where you could die. Like if you continue to lose weight, like you're going to get point where you could die. If you continue to lose weight, you're going to get that bloated African belly of just no... Distended. Distended belly, that's the word, where there's just no nutrients, and that's what he was marching towards.

That's how much dedication for a movie to just forego food for months. I know Val Kilmer lost a shitload of weight too that's always impressive um less impressive when they gain it i feel like unless they like drop it really quick uh in christian bale's case though he's he's had like five or six transformations and at first glance it seems like there's maybe one or two versions of his physique like there's the machinist incredibly emaciated version and then there's the fit version and then maybe you might recognize the bulked up version for batman but there's like half a dozen

versions of that when you see him in um american um what is it american uh that where he's the serial killer um oh american psycho american psycho you know he's he's got a really like low fat um like ripped physique in that but then in batman like i said he's it's more bulky but then again in the machinist he looks like he's going to die at any moment um he's he's really good with that um i don't know if he's an actor like one of those people who like walks around set like like he's i don't know if he would be bruce wayne or batman i guess it would depend what he was wearing but like i just imagined him you know like going by craft services and where are the atalantas where are they just like freaking out um daniel day lewis is like that though um he did that movie my left foot where he plays i think it's i don't know if it's irish or

scottish but um he's this like i think it's cerebral palsy so he could only use his left foot to do things and he became like a writer so he can only use his left foot to do things, and he became, like, a writer and an artist using just his left foot. He plays that character. And so they're having to haul him around in a wheelchair throughout the entire production. They're having to feed Daniel Day-Lewis because he can only use his left foot to do things.

And then when he played Lincoln, you got to call him Mr. President. Like, Mr. President, would you like a Diet Pepsi? That's literally what was going on. Are you serious? I can't remember the guy's name, but they filmed Back to the Future with a method actor. And everyone hated working with him so much

they recast into Michael J. Scott. I feel like that is an inevitable solution for someone to be doing that long in his time frame. That wasn't the only... You're right. He also played it a little... He wasn't goofy funny enough. Yeah, I didn't think he was funny enough. But if you look really carefully in the scene where

it's in the scene where... It's with the photograph or something. No, it's where they punch Biff. Marty punches Biff in the restaurant right after he's ordered that crazy retro Pepsi drink or whatever. But if you watch it frame by frame, I don't think it's Marty

throwing the punch. It's that other actor whoever the hell. It's some 80s alternate version of Michael J. Fox. Yeah, I couldn't handle being around a method actor at all. I don't think I could call... I like Daniel Day-Lewis as an actor

a lot, but if I had to tell him, or if I had to refer to him as Mr. President once, I'd be like this fucking asshole. Are you that bad at acting that you can actually be that guy? Like, march around fucking Whole Foods afterward, you know, demanding that things be proffered to you him in makeup though and actually be that guy like march around fucking whole foods afterward

you know demanding that things be proffered to you by your virtue of your rank i can't it's silly i can't remember which actor it is but they were asking about his method and yes you're right they were asking about his method or something there was some like really powerful scene where where they were just like when i saw you you, you just looked shattered. I could tell. What was going on? What was going on inside your brain? He says, well, I counted to eight. Oh, well, shit. Okay.

That little movie that I was doing last month or whenever it was, there was someone there who fancied themselves a method actor. Any example of what they were? Any example whatsoever of that, but I just didn't think that that... I thought that was a bit silly. But let's talk about Loot Crate. This episode is being brought to you by Loot Crate.

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The different ideas of what they'll look like. Whether it's Blade Runner or stuff like we're looking at here with Robocop. That particular version of awful Detroit I've always liked because we've kind of went toward that in real life. Mm-hmm. You said you like that stuff right

taylor like all the little collectibles and stuff that you can get i do i do i don't i will not open them or play with them i save them because eventually they'll be valuable i've got these things like beanie babies i've got these things i've got i've got a couple of them now and i don't know what they're called a fan sent me one them, but basically it's like a little figurine with a square head. One of them I got is the Super Mutant from Fallout, and the other one I've got is... Oh, I know what they're called. Pops or something. Maybe.

They're like that big? Something like that? Yeah, yeah. Big square box head. Hard plastic. Yeah, kind of heavy. Yeah. something like that yeah yeah big square hard class yeah kind of heavy yeah so i've got one of them that's uh a super mutant from fallout 4 and uh i've got another one that's uh ghost i think

from uh game of thrones a fan sent it to me to my p.o box really nice fan over at p.o box 102 carnsville georgia 30521 i really appreciate it when i get all those it's like christmas every week when i go check that thing there There's always weird shit in there. You guys are great. What are you guys bumping over here? There must be some top secret shit going down. Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of bumps. But who knows?

I don't know what it means. It's because Woody has a tendency to show our chat to everyone. It's really difficult. The scoop is I'm doing a screen share let me and taylor both he goes it's really difficult me and taylor both go yeah both of you who've never done it you're doing a screen share and then like i don't know the screen drags over the people leave the call like when the call ends all of a sudden text that was previously not being shared

pops into the middle of the fucking what I'm sharing. If you guys leave this call, everyone's going to see... Oh, this is Skype. This is basically Skype making everything miserable with video chat. Yeah, if things would stay still, that wouldn't be a problem. I'm inclined to

believe you because, as you said, I have no experience. Yeah, so that's how it happens every single time like the call will end or um because the screen scanner stuff takes a specific spot on the screen and when you change skype it moves the pictures or let's say the call drops the same spot yeah the call drops so i click on like kyle's name is like to like restart the call well now our last conversation is in the center uh it's it's a big problem so i like want to bump i don't even know those pictures you're linking you don't even want them there anymore you're saying right yeah because those kids are underage that's right home addresses prices things like that it's just not okay exactly i i like it when you bump stuff that like i didn't

even realize would be a big deal if people saw it you'll be like like the time you know i thought that the aria storyline in the last game of thrones episode could have been better it's like i did not want to offend hbo i i bump all the time you could like i'll just see like chat from 10 minutes ago that says like you know be right back right and i'm can't let that you can't let that cat get out of the way we don't want them to let a bunch of people know when i'll be back i just bump as a habit so i really like i really like this week's i really like this week's game of thrones um i I've enjoyed this whole season thus far I need to re-watch it's top two or three seasons ever I agree

I gotta say so I know what one of the new one of the next episodes is named I wish I didn't know what it's named it's one of those leaks where my eyes worked faster my brain worked faster, my brain worked faster

than my... The part of my brain that reads worked faster than the part of my brain that was like, look away! But it was an article, and it said, it gave the amount of time a couple of the next episodes were going to be, how long they are. I don't think it's any kind of a sport

to say, these are exceptionally long. Some of the longest ever. I think it's like, shit, I don't want to give the wrong number, but it's any kind of a sport to say these are exceptionally long some of the longest ever I think it's like shit I don't want to give the wrong number but it's well over an hour thank god oh man that's very encouraging to me well I don't know the name of the next one either but I feel like they tell you that in the directors commentary every week I don't either because like I like that the episode like like i could my girlfriend or wife now i guess wants to watch that every time afterwards i want no part of the director's commentary i don't just like i don't want to hear behind the scenes i don't want to hear what the directors think about it

either yeah let's see what's gonna be i totally agree with you who gives a fuck after it goes and the fucking names are up there like i don't care but i don't want next week spoiled in any way whatsoever even pretend even a little. I don't want to see set photos, none of that shit. So here's my plan. Game of Thrones plan to get the maximum amount of enjoyment out of Game of Thrones this year. So prior to the season beginning, I re-watched the entire

series. Now, at the end of this season, and I haven't re-watched any of this season's episodes. Not even once. I always do that. I always watch them multiple times, but I haven't. At the end of this season, I'll re-watch the whole thing again. Not the whole series, but this whole season again, and I'll include

the director's commentary and knowing how things are going to pan out. I think it'll be really nice. It's a good plan. I need to re-watch the most recent one because for whatever reason, I was up really late working the night before. It was 3 a.m., and I realized it was Sunday. You missed the plot line.

I did. Yeah, I missed a big thing. Fortunately, I guess we spoiled it for you by discussing it. It's okay. It made me realize I had to rewatch it. I won't even say the plot line. It was what happens to Aria. That's enough said, I guess.

He didn't recall what had happened to Arya. The plotline advances, and I'd like to see it play out. When you brought this up, Kyle, you were saying this is your favorite season, and Filthy looked like he had a thing to say about that, and I'm interested. I do. I've been hearing this a lot. My stream talks about this from time to time, and I try not to spoil it for them. I'm not sure what you guys... First of all, what's your policy on spoilers?

Guests like to spoil it for them i'm not sure what you guys what first of all what's your policy on spoilers do we like to spoil things go for it okay so i have not read all of the the newest books i'm like i've read like half of it you are you are no no okay well i'm not gonna spoil the book i don't have a spoiler to say i just wanted to know before i started framing this or something like this but for me like past episodes okay but for those listening we're going to discuss i guess you know the episodes that have been out past episodes sure okay yeah yeah go on for those listening we're going to discuss I guess you know the episodes that have been out that are out and are up to date we're all up

to date and you should be too okay cool great so everyone's saying this is a great great season and I you know it's not bad I'm not hating it but it is throwing me a little bit with the I feel like the spirit of this whole cold, hard like world in which the characters you love are killed off all the

fucking time. And no one gets a second chance has been really compromised in this series. I feel like we're seeing resurrections left and right. We're seeing people get away with stuff. We're seeing people get second chances. And I just, at some part of me and like some part of me, maybe for reading this a million years ago,

or just being a snob about this is like, is this really the vision that he was going with this? Is this just now – because this is the first kind of full series that's totally off the written, the beaten track from the books, right? Is this not just like a televised kind of adaptation where we're so used to these plot lines where like the good guys do well and we can root for them? I feel like we're getting a little bit of that this season. I suspect when the books come out, they're going to mirror what happened in the show. I'm worried about that too. Gurm is obviously a big part of the plot lines.

But I hadn't thought about it in the way that you put it, right? Because it's not just Jon Snow and the Hound who have been resurrected, who are the most obvious ones. I feel like Margaery... And the Hound's a really likable character too. He's coming around. Everyone's like, oh, he's not so bad of a guy but yep and marjorie uh who that's the name of the woman who got caught by sparrows right natalie dormer yeah she's been effectively like set free with no penalty you know like she just talked her way out of that

um and i had a fourth one in my head there is another one i'm blanking on it too yeah i have a i have a good point that about all this though i think you got to keep in mind game of thrones is almost over we're we're we're this thing is closing down there's two more seasons tops there's two more tops after this so where are you basing that on just out of curiosity i've heard just something like that that's what they've said. That's that's the word. There's two more seasons time I heard that so so yeah and in seasons one two three four of Course things were just keeping we're just hitting rock bottom if this season They what did you want him to do if they can't they kill our she dies aria dies Like that we continued at now John John so aria has a great yet

You don't like how deep can they go yeah john snow doesn't come back to life so now literally everything north of winterfell doesn't matter to us anymore because because who are we going to go back up there to follow you know because the camera follows a character who's the camera going back north the wall for no one but what the red beard guy you're going to watch him farm for radishes until he starves next year because that's what's coming um so my point is that we're on the upswing now i i i think there will be more shocking deaths more surprises more oh my god can you believe that this way yeah yeah exactly and which that scene was one of the least convincing scenes

i've seen in this series yet i'm like so she lights you know this is this is definitely spoilers you know lights a couple fucking heads of the clans on on fire there walks out naked and they're all suddenly like yeah we're following her she knows what's up like that's a weird i thought our election process was kind of fucked up i i mirrored that exact same sentiment and they both disagreed with me so i am happy that you said that well, I am now bandwagon jumping into agreement. It's one more thing where I don't like in the show where they establish it, where it's like, oh, yeah, you can't just walk into fucking Marine with a red hat on. The culture there, they'll just attack you for red hats. And then two seconds later, Daenerys walks in with a red hat,

and everybody's like, our queen! And it's like, there was no transition here. You just established that a cultural precedent was set set and then you immediately defied it so i don't know if they define it as well in the shows but in the books they spend a lot of time talking about how this city is a non-violent city right when you go there you like leave your swords at the door everyone comes in dothraki yeah it's it's and i guess not all dothraki get along with each other but in maureen all those conflicts are set aside and you know now i thought maureen was the sliver city oh my mistake face dothrak oh is that what you're saying i didn't know what he was saying

yeah it's dothraki it's it's bullshit yeah all right so face drothrak i guess is a place where like you really are non-violent there's just put all your grievances aside and then she goes of course and kills like every carl because that's what i call them and uh uh and suddenly they're like all right well she killed all the carls i guess that's she's leadership material and you know whereas anyone else had done i wish they were called carls and it was like some sort of like linguistic lineage with like yarles and it made sense somehow i wish it was carls now but that's i love you've seen well then join me in calling them carls we could become trendsetters people think i believe it though that trend has come and gone if it was gonna catch on i think it was in it was hot and and i missed it yeah Yeah, that was Shucks, and here's me, unfashionable again.

Filthy, what do you think, how did the Hodor death, where does that rank for you amongst the deaths in the series as far as impactfulness and sadness? I want to, I'm curious. I don't know. I remember watching that episode and being a little disappointed, and the next day reading about it, and everyone was like, this blew my mind. And, yeah, okay, the buildup of the name certainly is something that you're curious about.

And, like, hearing that it was planned all along gives you a little bit of respect for the author. And you're like, okay, this was a plot line you had going into it. But I just didn't really buy a man holding a door, holding back, like, 20,000 fucking, like, undead zombies, like, running through it. I just didn't buy that was enough time for anything realistic. Dude, hold on. I would join you in this, him holding back that door as like him saving brand,

who was so essential to the whole thing. No, they caught up with brand like five minutes, five minutes later. Right. Because it's a fucking door. It's not like a dimensional portal that they've closed or something. It's like,

okay, he's dead. There's footprints in the snow. We'll get him in about five minutes but they didn't kill him that gave them the time to get there and the ranger who or i guess they look at terminator two when arnold schwarzenegger has to go after fucking t2 he loses his arm gets impaled by that thing but he didn't kill him he just gave john connor enough time to go down in that shoot but this is my initial criticism of the season. This feels, again, like, this feels very much like a movie

or a television show plot device that we've seen a million times, like the one you're just citing, as opposed to kind of this hard, dark, cold reality. I feel like hard, dark, I mean, at some level we can blame Martin on this one too, right? This is supposedly... Is it called Deuce Machina? Deuce? Yeah, that's it. That's exactly it.

Deuce Machina? No, it's Deuce. Oh, is it? it. Dece Machina? Yeah, Deuce. They know they fuck with me. Don't believe them. They just lie. If I mispronounce something... Dece Machina. I mean, he was on to us. Come on. From the start. I'm like,

is Taylor's name pronounced Taylor? And they're like, yes. I'm not buying that. Whatever you say. I also didn't buy the hot dog cotillion thing I said earlier, and I was half expecting you to at least jump on that for a second. No, no. Actually, yeah, you guys are really helping me improve my gullibility skills. Yes. Yeah, duos machina, something close to that.

They've been doing that this year a lot, and I hadn't really noticed it until you pointed it out. You know, there just happens to be a door there that buys them just enough time for someone else to come along who happens to have, like, a fireball mace. Which is a really cool weapon, but, like, that seemed really effective. Why is no one else using this to kill fucking these zombie things with? Like, it feels like if you've been fighting them for, like,

however many thousands, hundreds of thousands of years. They haven't, though. That's the timeline. Like, you have to explain some of this stuff away. I haven't, though. That's the timeline. You have to explain some of this stuff away. You've got to be super nerdy and remember what the book said. It's been a thousand years. I think that's the exact number since it was cold

enough and the winter was long enough for the White Walkers to come when magic ruled the world. When the first men came over and they fought the children of the forest and all of that bullshit. There haven't been ice spiders. Ice spiders, dire wolves, all that stuff have almost become fairy tales in this land.

They really have. And you see when Sam's, when Gilly or whatever fucking name it says to Samwell's father, you know, he killed a thing and a white walker. And the brother, and even the brother who's trying to be a little supportive like scoffs they laugh at him and he's like it's true because these don't

people these people don't even fucking believe in white walkers in the book there's an there's an instance where john snow i think or sends a man um the guy he doesn't like down all the way to the capital city whose name i always forget to tyrian who was running King's Landing at the time with the hand of a white walker in like a box and Tyrion to like insult the guy makes him wait endlessly and by the time he gets his like meeting with Tyrion the hand of the white of the dead man that was crawling around on its own like Adam's family has rotted away and now he's just got a rotten hand in a box to show off so he looks like a moron you know they

in the white walkers they don't believe they're coming because it's been so long and so that's what's going tyrian did something clever i forget like he was able to somehow mock the guy and keep face with all the fellow non-believers yet still get him men i remember exactly how he did it but yeah he like laughed at him and made fun of him and he was like, take the beggars and the fools that we have piled up down there for you. We got about a hundred. Maybe a hundred strong fools and beggars. They're dressed

warmly for the north. Yeah, yeah. He almost treated it like, I remember that in the book. Even though he's like, Falcons, show you the way. We've got this ridiculous dragon glass laying around. Grab it too.

It's messing up our chest. I used to do this for another series. So you were talking about re-watching the series before it comes out. I used to do that with a book series

that was released as a real-time series over this million years ago. And I was re-reading these each before it came out. And it gets ridiculously long. But the problem I have right now is I have such a hard time

differentiating between what I've seen in the show and what I remember reading from the books in this series that I don't know anymore. So I don't – oh, I think it's something about – I think it's maybe something about the way that I take the information in. Because I listen to audiobooks for one thing. And when I listen to the audiobook, I paint my own picture. So when I think back to some of those book moments, I'm thinking back to that picture I painted like six months ago in my car driving down the road. That's how everybody's framed.

I frame everyone up in a storyboard type situation. And Aria, blah, blah, blah. And, oh, don't want to wash the steps. My hands are bleeding. And blah, blah, blah. So I do... I suppose I do the accents too. Yeah. I really like that.

Throughout the whole time I listened to the books, I was multitasking. I feel like some parts of it I'm a deep expert on and then other parts I just... It's like I grabbed a tenth of a centimeter of pages and just flipped them and started there. See, for that to happen, I've caught it happening and I would always be like,

oh, well, well, well, let's and I would think to myself like, what do you think's going on right now? I'll pull out my girlfriend sometimes like we'll be watching something or watching. It's like I feel like she's dozing off or not paying attention. I'm like, what do you think's going on right now? Well, yeah, just to see if there's a quiz on this show. Yeah, I mean, I do hold my girlfriend are pretty high standard when we watch television. There is a quiz on this show I do hold my girlfriend To a pretty high standard when we watch television

There is a quiz afterwards I give her my interpretation And she gives me hers And we take notes And there's a little discussion What's awesome is Well she's graded and judged harshly Yeah

We assign chores based on this Clean the shoes flagellations um do you guys know who jenny cam is sounds like a stage name jenny cam so jenny jennifer ringley was like the biggest thing on the internet back in 1996. What she did is she filmed her whole life. Like now people do vlogging. She just had live cams in her bedroom and her apartment, like everywhere. And I watch a show like that.

Just me though. Yeah. And the actor doesn't even know he's there. But he is in your, though. Yeah, and the actor doesn't even know he's there. But he is in your basement, though. I think Kyle was saying that's just my life. I don't know. I'm really confused by all these. I was saying that I was spying on some woman with hidden cameras that I had placed in her apartment.

So I watched something like what you're describing. But I'm the only watcher. Yeah. This is a little creepy vibe I was trying to throw out there. But we'll just let it pass. So tell us more about this Jenny Cam person who was cool in 1999 six yes from 1996 to 2003 yes and she's intentionally irrelevant now which i find interesting too she um intentionally like she means it yes oh yeah she's tried to get out of the public spotlight exactly and she succeeded like it took a long time but like dude everyone knew who jenny cam was like back in the day the internet didn't have that

much cool stuff on it i was like you know wow you can get all the pictures of the sunset you want i'm gonna make this my background wallpaper like that was what the internet was in like 1996 and then there's this woman who was maybe 23 at the time and set up cameras in her room. And it just 99% of the time, it was just boring shit. Like she said she was a web developer or something. So you'd see her like unattractively working on her keyboard, doing something. You'd see her doing dishes. You'd see her doing whatever, but you could always pop in and see Jenny. Like she worked from home and was there practically all the time. Every now and then she'd have sex and it's like, oh my God, Jenny had sex. Like pop that shit up. Like there

it is. You know, there's like still photos and stuff. And, um, uh, or she just like come out of the shower and get dressed. And she's like, you know, does my thing have nudity? Yes. This is my real life, which contains some nudity. That's funny. Yeah. You know?

I would like to see that, like, on, like, a movie poster. Life may contain nudity. Yeah. You know? And, like, it wasn't always, like, really flattering nudity yeah you know and uh like it wasn't always like really flattering nudity like on a scale of one to ten i'm gonna like seven this girl you know like and i i think i put fives in the middle as opposed to a lot of people who will big adam's apple flat chest muscled up that's a ten man lots of body hair that's how i like them um yeah milo said i like high tea women and it's burned into my head like yeah i guess i do um i could circle back to that anyway uh i wonder like

if we could possibly get her on the show i think that she would be an amazing guest she was like bigger than jenna marbles bigger than pewdiepie she she was maybe i don't know just own the internet at the time back when bigger than pewdiepie was having you know two million people watch you well what's she doing now like what um same thing just not many people care anymore no i don't find her interesting she's not on facebook she's not on like google like you can't just know she doesn't do social media she's kind of like i gotta say just out of curiosity was she she was was this in any way financial for her was she making any sort of living or money off this you said she was working during this but was this like a web cam

and they said she was a web developer and this is like before cam whores yeah i'm really curious about like how this why what was her motivation she actually she yeah she had a PayPal, and that's how people would pay her. And when PayPal started their anti-nudity thing, I don't know if that still exists. But PayPal basically said you can't pay for anything that contains nudity. She just shut down the business because people were just sending her money, I guess. Okay, that was my next question, because I felt like she was she was no I felt like she was

just like a web developer who knew how to make this thing happen, and there wasn't anything interesting about what she'd done. But yeah, if she was making some money doing this, I bet she made a lot of money doing this. That's why she's not on the internet anymore, because she was kind of a pseudo porn star for a few years and made a killing at it

and now she's fucking web developing somewhere watching her like like you'd see like she doesn't want to come on our get a boyfriend yeah she doesn't give a fuck she probably doesn't want to come on but i i think she'd be interesting to have she had a boyfriend whether she would like file a restraining order or something that's what women do you're just making fun of my web like that's what they don't give him a script either she was on Letterman like like she was a big enough deal to get on Letterman and he was like that guy simultaneously said like this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and this is the perfect use of the

internet or something like a guy who really doesn't get the internet. Of course. A guy who probably can't write his own emails. I don't know how I feel about her. I feel like she's just kind of a I hate to say it, but kind of a cam whore, right? You brought that up, Woody.

Was it part of a larger point or were you just curious about bringing it up? Throughout my life I bump into a topic and I'm like, oh, maybe this will go somewhere. And I save them as talking points. Yeah, it does sound that. I mean, cam horror is a kind of pretty loaded term in and of itself. But I mean, if you're talking about like, I mean, yeah, there's the people who do

like the sexual acts on cam. There's people but you do get a lot of this kind of, I mean, as a streamer, I'm essentially a cam horror to some sense of that, right? Like i'm streaming in a portion of my life is out there with that control i wish you'd step up your cam whore game and take that shirt off i know i mean like this is certainly certainly a future i'd envisioned you know you're not a cam whore though because you're not performing sex acts for money which is what i shoot a whore what what you're doing i'm

pouring out my life right like so part of the interest in the stream is hearing about you know like my marriage was a very interesting topic to stream to talk about they want to know about things that happen when i'm not sitting here playing games they want to know about you know stuff that happens before and after the stream to be their friend well kind of but part of i think is the engagement in the person you know people'm getting at with this is to like just immediately take her life to go cam whore with this it's like it kind of seems like she's streaming the whole of it I mean like you go to like a cam whore site like this is a website

for like looking at people doing some sort of sexual action on cam right it seems like a little bit more in depth than that I don't know quite what her motivation is but seems like just a cam more in-depth than that. I don't know quite what her motivation is. I agree with you. It seems like just a cam whore with no editing. That's where I'm going. Because this happened in 1996. Maybe she just couldn't.

She hadn't figured the formula out yet. She was like, well, I guess I could get around. Maybe she thought either A, I can get around this being pornography. If I'm just going to live my life. And this is sort of like a voyeur's look. Because I think a lot of guys are into that anyway. Like, yeah, I'm just going my life and this is sort of like a voyeur's look because I think a lot of guys are into that anyway like yeah I'm just gonna watch till something happens I don't want to tell her what to do I just want to hear it does what you have to do is go to the Jenny cam highlights

websites that's the way I would do it and then be like all right yesterday sucked day before sucked day before sucked oh i'm cataloged she came out of the shower three days ago let's see those pics you'd skip over all the bullshit was it like was it really like oh she came out of the shower three days ago what a treat or was it like wow this is her sixth shower today and she's really taking a long time to dry off in a lot of interesting position oh no definitely not like that it was real life like it she didn't seem she basically she was on camera all the time her whole life right 24 by 7 by the way so there's like eight hours a day of her sleeping and uh um you know so like she says anyway that she became sort of immune to the cameras and just started living life

did you watch this woody like her i'd peer in on it like what i would do is basically there were like fan sites and highlight sites that would like like interesting things that she does like oh new boyfriend came back to the house for the first time let's see what he's up to not not much different than youtube nowadays right you know like I wonder if he knows about the fucking cameras. I think they would, yeah. Damn, you're his important kid. What's the internet? So you kind of catch your life in a...

They did a lot of older men who didn't know shit about this. It was 1996. You think a 25 year old dude knew what the internet was? Or knew what the capacity was? any ramifications of of being on jenny cam like that might be true but um you know so i'd sort of follow like almost like i follow sports by reading about it the next day and saves tremendous amounts of time and that's uh that's kind of how i'd follow jenny cam so well curiously what was your motivation for

checking it out? What brought you back enough that you'd read these summary sites and check it out? The same motivation I have when people watch vloggers or something. I'm watching a guy. He does really nice editing, and he's into golf. I couldn't be less into golf. But somehow, I wonder what he did today his name is Justin something and like Casey Neistat I watch him too god I've mentioned him too many times I I'm

not really into flying around the world and staying in nice hotels which is what he seems to be vlogging about 75% of the time and you know this is my new hotel room watch me skateboard outside it um like he does that a lot but somehow i'm just wondering like i wonder what casey did today you know like and that's what jenny cam would do to me it'd be like huh i wonder what jenny did today you know there was the possibility of tits which makes it even better. Especially 1996 where... I don't know where you're going with that, Kyle. Yeah, no. Pornography was born with the internet.

Videos? Videos of porn? Pornography was born long before the internet. Okay. Pornography brought the internet to where it is. Back in the day, because you were on modems and stuff, it wasn't so much videos. I remember modems.

Yeah. It'd be lots of still pictures. And the websites didn't really offer it for free as much. It was like, yeah, it'd be lots of still pictures and the websites didn't really offer it for free as much. That's what I'm saying. And here was a woman who was free on video.

Yeah. It was shitty though. Yeah, no, like, if you want porn, Jenny Cam was not your best source

in my opinion. There was way better porn on the internet than some woman who spends 99%. Were there any videos of it at the time because I obviously wasn't doing that it's like a little niche market doesn't it

this is kind of I mean this is the like epitome of pro next door right this is the this is the a real woman having real sexual encounters in some level right yeah but they weren't that common I remember in 1999 that's when I had my computer and I was looking for porn and it was like everything was pay sites and you just had to go to the

pay site and take the tour you take the tour and it's like continue tour or buy now and it's like I know credit card bitch like monster titties with like like stars over them so you can't see it's like fuck titty tassels again you click on it and like they think they got you because there's a pop-up site but you're like no they got a tour too let's check that out it's funny that all of us because we're all different ages hit like had a different experience in that first intro to that kind of content because for me i'm like four years younger than you Kyle so for me it was like not 99 like 2003 and so I had a little

more options at that point but for me it was still you know I gotta find a website with a free preview like a 40 second clip of kind of what's gonna be going on and then I gotta kind of watch it like half assed so I still get like the impact but I don't remember

it enough and I can just immediately restart it and just use it again. That's all that it was about. I remember password websites. Websites with logins and passwords for paid porn sites. They still exist. Those are the best. So here's the thing. Paid porn really is massively

superior. Massively superior to like the cams. Like U-Porn or WebPorn or XHamster or any of those sites. I haven't used a password site in a million fucking years. Porn is out there everywhere.

Every now and then fans will give us usernames and passwords. We want those, by the way. We really appreciate it. I lost all mine. It was Brazzers. I had a Brazzers. Oh, we did get those because you gave that to me let me know what this share donate let me think i'm on like a i'm not watching it in 4k but i'm on like a 42 inch 4k television watching it in 1080p 60 frames per second and it's like oh god it's too real goosebumps on her ass what the fuck and it's 60 frames goosebumps are sexy you might be thinking pimples not sexy i know what goosebumps but but

but the high definition of it and even being able to see them is like sensory overload because it's so good hd 60 frame per second pornography is incredible. It really is worth paying, but I don't, and I wouldn't. I would never. Yeah, I stand by that. I wouldn't. I'm on the border about that. It depends what they're doing. If they're producing content that I really enjoy,

I might subscribe to it. I'll say this. What is the difference between, I make a fucking living streaming at Twitch. What is the difference between subscribing to that or subscribing to your favorite porn star? I don't think there is one now you can't do that you know so um selena that that watches our show or whatever she's a porn star and she's you know she got really popular there on uh um what is it porn hub yeah yeah they probably make i've never

seen her she does very well i've talked to her about it before um what was i say? I had a thing I can't wait to say. Fuck. Oh, Jackie. So there's someone in my universe, I don't want to out them, that pays for porn sites. And my wife, while completely fine with free porn, thinks that paying for a porn site is somehow like deviant behavior. She would find a guy who paid for porn to be, I don't know, just the desperate greasiest fedora wearing neckbeards.

That's a society member who's contributing to the economy. Putting it back in. Putting her through college in all likelihood. Those are the kind of girls who are going to go to college. Exactly. They have a lot of good things to say people need to listen a lot of these girls are putting those liberal arts degrees to use

right dude yeah third yeah they did that's funny that's an interesting distinction that makes a distinction for her this is what you do people who are stealing the like scrounging the internet for scraps of pornography they're fine the people who are like you know all right there's a porn star i like i'm gonna subscribe to them pay them money watch their stuff that's not okay that's the sleazy you know how to get anything you want anyway right like i don't know i would pay for the site i i don't know i keep going back and forth with this because it's hard for me to to know what i would do i think that's an intrinsic woman thing that it comes off as desperate and therefore it is

unattractive and unappealing. I would like her opinion on male sex toys. Like just a dude that had one of those what do you... Fleshlight. Yeah, I would like her opinion on the Fleshlight. I think she would look down on that as well.

Oh, they all do. I would like to know what she would look down on that as well oh they they all do yeah like i would like to know what was she what she would think if she's like i don't know 25 year old woman dating a 25 year old man she's at his house after like i don't know the second date or something like using the bathroom she she goes through the the cabinet back over there and looking back behind the back behind the 18 pack of toilet paper she she's just looking for some wet wipes or something. More toilet paper. You know, whatever. And she notices, what is that?

What's that back there? Is that a flashlight? Oh, good. If I had that flashlight, I could probably find the toilet paper better. Oh, my God, it's a pussy. Like, what she would think about that guy that had the pocket pussy or the flashlight or... or and the blow-up doll each in succession like like I feel like

hypothetical you know have you guys shared with your porn sites of choice with your significant others do they know have you talked about porn with a relationship at all nah it's never really come up I asked her we'll see if she's around huh you just did I texted her okay yeah I never really come up i asked her we'll see if she's uh around huh you just did i texted her oh okay yeah i never really brought it up didn't see what about how did it go for you what'd you what'd you i'm not like no i don't i don't wish to go into it too in too depth either but yeah i've shared i've talked i've showed the porn that i'd like to my girlfriend so we've talked about that you know i was hoping you know the hope of course is you're like oh this is super sexy for you both she doesn't really like porn so fair enough but she

doesn't begrudge me my sites which is nice and i kind of like i like the fact that i didn't need to make that something secret you know yeah i'm not like inviting her into like masturbation sessions or something but like you know at the same time it's you know you have your sex life with your partner and you have your sex life independent of your partner and i kind of like the fact that i could share that with my partner. It's kind of nice. It's liberating a bit. We're not far from that.

It's nice to have something to go to if you're in a fight. Jackie. Or if you're out of town. Or if you've had a long day. You know, there's a lot of reasons to go fight your partner. Any number of reasons. Yeah. Just manufacture.

God. God, I'm hungry. It's May Day. She's replying. Arbor Day really gets me in. Oh, man'm hungry. It's May Day. She's replying. Arbor Day really gets me in. Oh, man. Remember the troops. Stand up, soldier. Yeah, so Jackie might be slightly more...

Not quite 21-gun salute, but it's the best I can... That's it. So why not? Why does it just never come up? Oh, not like it's come up and not why is it just never come up oh not like it's unaware of your message so jackie's more pro porn i think than your wife she but it's all she wouldn't want to watch look you watch enough porn suddenly your preferences drift toward the more extreme or at least you like at least you like to you know like capes for take a walk on the wild side now and then right it's not like so i think what you're trying to say here is that her taste in porn is very vanilla yeah yeah it's a little more plain on one of those tangents when you're going through those sites and it a point begins

where you're not even engaging in the act anymore. You're just like looking at a video like, what the fuck is, what kind of person am I? What am I doing? And I like to think I'm pretty, you know, pretty open. I've seen a lot of things and experienced a lot of things. But sometimes you're like, what the fuck is that? And what are they doing? And you just want to know.

Yeah. Oh, wow. She's sucking on his prolapsed asshole what the fuck that's that's another thing when you're scrolling in the thumbnails and you're getting everything like like it's all normal what you're looking for and then just one there it's like oh what is that a goat what i like sometimes you're just fucked because you don't know going into that you're like oh that looks like pretty hot what the fuck that's not you know what i mean like i don't i can't decipher jackie's answer oh what'd she say decipher all right so the question i asked specifically was are male sex tent sex toys more cringe worthy than female sex toys i hate the whole cringe thing but i i lack the vocabulary to do better and she it depends where they are going and what they're used for fleshlights

cringe so is blow-up doll which to me i'm like what's left yeah what is that that's two for two like there's nothing else in there so i said so i guess you could have like uh what's the fucking erection aid like uh the band ring talk ring thank you that's what i was looking for yeah fucking erection aid like uh the band ring talk ring thank you that's what i was looking for yeah that's a sex toy though yeah that's what you use if you can't keep it up right or if you want yeah i was gonna say i don't think it's just for guys who are having trouble keeping it up i think that apparently they may be like for a next level erection yeah the blood goes in but doesn't come out about like vibrators like giving experience that like, you know, Oh, yeah.

the body just doesn't fucking do so on some level. I'm the only one here who owns a magic wand. I mean, pro-Cockering. That's the only thing, she's been pro-Cockering. Michael J. Fox doesn't own one. But on the other side... But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but! He's like, I haven't turned it. He's like, I haven't plugged it in. But I guess on that sense, if you're comparing them like that, you could be like, oh, I'm cringeworthy.

Because are we ever supposed to believe that the fleshlight is doing something? I've never used the fleshlight. So is the fleshlight doing something that the pussy's not supposed to be doing? Yeah, you have to listen to it. There's an off switch. We should float that one by ourself and others i bet that would go over really well try just text jackie what she thinks about that comment probably isn't uh she wouldn't look favorably i don't think no probably not well we we got sponsored by or or i don't know i was on

that one that that auto blow thing yeah i was on that another like next level it's too much it's too much it's too much for a sex toy like you know what i mean like like i feel like it looks like that robot that's blowing the guy in the vr mask that i keep seeing on the internet it's like a literal robot like like like like forcing some sort of sex toy over his dick while while like there's some sort of like suction things on his nipples and like something in his ass and he's got the VR on. And it's making that sound like you're in an MRI machine. Like that...

So if you had a blowjob robot, would your preference for it to be somewhat female looking or just completely like a machine? Female looking, 100%. I don't want to feel any remorse or compassion for it. I want it to be a very medical experience when I come to the slow job machine.

I like females. Females help me get off. I have the open CPR mouth. I have two eyes on a silly robot, so it's just the Google eyes. And as it's doing its thing, the Googlies are just dancing in there. I don't know how you guys do that. That wouldn't do it for me. I'm totally on Filthy's side.

It has to be the like female you know like otherwise it's just like i robot i feel like it should be somewhere in between my game like um so what if the what if your blowjob robot was very masculine looking like would that start bothering you because like if yeah yeah yeah who's the chicken wally eon or something i've seen it but i don't know the name yeah yeah so it's got to be the the clean little girl thing and not the masculine little boy square thing let's see i'm gonna have to but that's my preference by the way about the non-cringeworthy so she's giving us two cringeworthy what's the non-cringeworthy she said cock rings were not

cringeworthy okay okay so she did go that route. Do we know? What's a third male sex toy? Wait, isn't that... The only one that she doesn't think is cringe is there for her benefit, right? As well? So the only one that she likes is a mutual one. Is it more or less cringeworthy a vibrating cock ring? She doesn't like the ones that are independent of her, it seems.

Yeah. And that seems to be the trend. Very selfish when it comes to this, it seems. You can't even imagine why. She doesn't see the purpose of such a thing. But to give you pleasure. Ha ha ha ha ha! Yes.

Then we don't need it! You already have your lawnmowers and your trucks and ratchets. Why does she sound like this like she's some sort of slave owner about to ship them off to the new world it doesn't make sense i don't know i met a guy who was 72 today. That's not old enough to be impressive. So they were talking about being old, and he's like, you know, one of the goals in life is to get old, right? He's like, I'm doing great at it. And I was like, I like that.

I like that. You're trying to get old, right? Well, I've proven that I'm good at that. He was a really young 72. I feel like that's redefining your goals as you go, though. Probably my goal is to age. My goal is probably to enjoy myself along the way and do well in my life and meet the things that make me happy. But I guess if you're 72 and you look back and you're like, well, fuck, my life kind of sucked.

Well, what have I done? If you kind of just go for the ego element, I'm not saying he is, but if you went for the ego element, you're like, I my life kind of sucked but what have i done if you like kind of just go for the ego i'm not saying he is but if you went for the ego element you're like i got old i did well at that you know like i'm not sure that comes yeah i'm still here you know like lots of old people like my grandparents have a thing where they smoked like two packs a day each for like 40 years plus and they quit like eight years ago or so and they still say like you know when i hit 80 i'm gonna start smoking again and it's like yeah i don't doubt it like like are you looking forward to it they're like shit yeah yeah it's like all right so the urge never really went away and she's like

no like i'm i liked it but i still like it and it's like and so like And they were crazy smokers, like using nicotine patches as rolling paper. But yeah, I never thought of it like that because you always think when someone quits smoking, you never think like, man, they must always be thinking about that a little bit. You just think like, oh, they don't do that anymore. Or at least that's how I felt.

Isn't that there's a medical pull pulling towards it? Or they just know about something good that we don't? I know about something good that you don't. That pull pulling towards it? Or they just know about something good that we don't? I know about something good that you don't. That's what it is. Yeah, they know about something good that we don't. That fills you with, like, comfort and happiness for a split second every time you inhale. I know about something that can be both a stimulant and a depressant. Whatever you need, depending on how you puff on it.

It can put you to sleep or wake you up. Either way, it can pass the time. It can be your only friend sometimes. Wait, who are your sponsors today? You need to. You need to get some questions answered, you know. It does lots of things. It's wonderful.

I wanted to talk about, however, Chiz texted me today and said California just raised their smoking age to 21 years old. And another cool topic, though I think we've talked about it before, they've got a thing where you have the right to die now. If you've got six months or less to live, you can choose to... Oh, that's California as well. I was reading something about that in Canada recently, but I didn't realize that's US too now. California.

So in spite of my robin williams rant uh i kind of like the euthanasia one you know yeah you don't like it when people kill themselves for selfish reasons like you know what this world's no fun anymore i'm out of here i don't want to like go through the motions of being a person anymore but i think we all know that when you're suffering terribly and you have no quality of life that it's probably time to end things there's no point in dragging this out i like having the decision to control my own life both for the person who's suffering and for their family not dragging them through that because you you see so so so many times the family members of cancer uh of cancer patients and people who are dying of diseases like that because they're so

long term now with our treatments they go hell it ruins the whole family because yeah and at the end they end up having all these feelings of um you know wanting the person that they love to just go and dealing with the feelings that that caused inside of them it's a real when i did my robin williams rant i didn't really think about him as a person at the time which is something my fans do to me and i thought of him more as a public figure and thought leader. And there was something to that. Apparently like the suicide hotline fielded record calls the next day. My, my,

I was really only ranting cause I didn't want other people to like think, Oh, look at all the praise and love this guy's getting, you know, like suddenly Robin Williams was a national treasure you know everybody was just oh my gosh he's the world's greatest actor the funniest guy the greatest man like he was no he was sick either at that time right i also didn't know he was sick very shocking woody i'm sorry i don't know this oh you don't know this yes so right after robin williams killed himself i was like screw that you know, I really don't like that action. And I was kind of, between my ears, providing like a counter thought process to the world who was just like, oh, my God.

You know, he was the most wonderful person. We love him so much. Memorials, memorandum. Memorandums is a memo. memorandums is a memo but you know like like people were just blowing up the love for robin williams after his death and i was like oh my god anyone else who's thinking that maybe they want to do this too uh is going to think that like oh it's a better idea than they thought before right they're gonna love me when i'm gone so i provided this like anti-love thing and it went over like a lead balloon.

It was not a popular thing. Keep this aside, people. It was the angriest I've seen people at you, I think, ever. It made the whole Hodor incident look like just a walk in the park.

And people really did not care for the Hodor thing, but that was nothing compared to the Robin Williams. Yeah, it always was. The thing about the Robin Williams was, upon reflection, I felt like I was really wrong. The Hodor thing, like filthy. The character didn't impact me in the same way. I think

that, and people don't agree with this, but what was the guy's name? Cercio, who taught Arya how to sword fight? Yes. He died a similar... He had a wooden sword. There were like four or five armored metal swords, knights. And he basically did a similar thing where he fought off them and bought Arya enough time to escape.

And to me, he was really losing a lot more. He had a wife. He had kids, etc. And he was like, you know what? All this is done i'm helping aria escape there yeah for real that's not wrong and everyone kind of replied with this ah but he had a wife and kids you know for fuck's sake like he had a choice that's one of the things that bothers me about hodor hodor is sometimes a like essentially a zombie a person

they remote control sometimes he's just like they take care of him a little bit and like he does everything they ask and has no decision making his own ability they're like hold the door not will you be willing to sacrifice not he volunteers to sacrifice he's just told hold that fucking door and die for it where the at least the the dancing master like had the decision yeah but everyone disagreed with us on that point they're all like no you don't understand hodor's whole life was aimed toward this one thing. I'm like, I don't know. His whole life seemed to be devoted to whatever it was at the time.

When he was carrying Bran through the last three years, that was his only purpose in life. He just seemed to have a... I don't know. Everything seems a little bit like... His whole life wasn't... His whole life was for that moment.

That moment of holding the door. Yeah, but not by his choice. No, well, who cares? Nothing's by anybody's choice in this book. You think it... None of these players in this Game of Thrones wants to be there and is there by choice, except for the villains, for the most part.

And it was by choice in the end, where he was holding it by his own volition, or of his own volition, I guess. Yeah, yeah. It showed he was no longer the puppet being pupp was holding it by his own volition, or of his own volition, I guess. It showed he was no longer the puppet being puppeteered about by a brand. That was Hodor holding it. What Hodor got from a lifetime

of Hodor, Hodor, was a 55-year pep talk for the big game. That's what he got. A 55-year pep talk for the big game. That doesn't seem like something he won. That feels like someone suckered him into a bad fucking deal for 55 years of talking him up to it.

I love that. I felt like Cersei's actions were braver because he definitely had more free choice and he definitely lost a lot more. Hodor was like, well, shit. What am I going to run from this? By definition, braver because he had a thing to fear

and he overcame it when he could have ran. That's not there for Hodor. Hodor's like, well, they're like die right here. Right over there. Hodor's getting a hundred times the celebration that the dancing master did. And everyone was like, ah, fuck the dancing master. He's not so special.

Part of that is the production again, right? Like this was the closing scene of the film with the commentary about it and all the internet explosion about it and like the the cinematography of this moment and people like the feel right so when people exploded at me about robin williams i was like oh i kind of see their point when they exploded about at me about hodor i was like you know i'm too busy for this shit really you know i'm dancing in my underwear with the yeah right no i think i was taking my daughter to nationals at the time and i was doing whatever i was reading my paragliding or paramotoring book and i was just like you guys

rage away i'm immune to this one you know fuck off uh and that's i i felt a little bit of anti lgbt sentiment with his hate for Hodor. I don't know if anybody else caught that. Oh, God. I didn't even forget he was gay. I thought that it was not so much the LGBT, but that second Q and definitely the first A. I think that they will definitely take umbrage with what has been spoken. And the P off the charts.

There's no P. There is. It's pansexual. Bigot. Yeah, there's a P. It's pansexual. Bigot. Yeah, there's a P. It's the last one. Bigot. Because I didn't know the acronym we made up 15 minutes ago.

But where were we headed? We were on the hate, Hodor. Yeah, I think we should wrap up the Game of Thrones talk. I have a new topic. It's only a chance of it working, but I thought it was super interesting. This video, the I'm effing Matt Damon, you don't have to watch the whole thing. We're watching this together? The interview preceding it, to me, there's a point in there that I want to talk about.

All right, so we're watching this together. What moment do I want to start this from? I don't know. The interview is two minutes long, and I can't preview it. So the video's six minutes. Where are my seven minutes? Start at zero. The interview's the first two minutes.

Okay. Alright. So we're going to bump across it. Are you guys ready? Yeah. Ready, set. Oh, wait. I didn't put it on the big screen.

Ready, set, play. I know. What? Well, how about when we were first going out, and I'm very self-conscious because I'm very hairy. It's right at the beginning. And, um, don't, I shaved my arm so I actually am not, well, yeah, no. But, um, I'm very, I have very thick black hair all over. Right.

And I was always self-conscious of that, thank you. And I remember that you said that you liked it because you felt that it meant that I had more You said that it meant that I had more testosterone and that's why I like sex. Pause. Dude! I'm not alone! This is Jimmy Kimmel! This is Jimmy Kimmel trying to make his girlfriend Sarah Silverman not feel uncomfortable and embarrassed about how hairy she is. I disagree.

I think Jimmy is absolutely one of them. No, no. See, you guys don't understand high T appreciation. But Jimmy and I, we do. All right. So I need some background on this. Tell me about high T appreciation. Okay.

So here's the deal. Over the years of Painkiller already, as I define features that I think are cool in women, it's become clear that they're pretty guy-like. We'll look at which woman is pretty, and I always pick the one with the stronger jawline. We'll say which woman's hot. I usually pick the thinner athletic one over the big boobied one. We went on this. The hairy belly.

Yeah, we went on. I was just headed there. We went on a whitewater drafting trip. And there was a woman who in every other way, at least from the neck down, I forget how pretty she was, was model-like. She was just like super fit. Like, I don't know. She was short and stubby and thick. And she had abs.

I didn't remember her as short. She had a cute-ish tomboy face. In my head she was like 5'7", which I wouldn't call short. And she was strong. She was a whitewater rafting guide. Very strong. And she happened to have like a happy trail that led to her bikini.

And I saw that and I instantly thought like, I bet that, and I instantly thought, like, I bet she likes to fuck, right? Because that's, like, I'm a terrible person. But, you know, high T appreciation apparently is built into me. And, like, as all these things go out, like, yeah, Woody likes girls with abs, strong jawlines, happy trails, small boobs. If we ever had any indication that Taylor was having an effect on you,

that was it right there. That slip. Fuck it with your head. It's their hobby. Everyone needs a hobby. But like strong jawline, small boobs, like abs, happy trail apparently is on the list. Adam's apple.

Big hands. Strong hands't those two they just throw in right i never was like adam's apple chicks this is the bomb but uh um when you're banging the chick and you can just feel those balls those balls slapping you at the back of your ass every time she thrusts wait a minute what what? You're in the stomach. What are we talking about? I got a little girl. Very high T. So besides offering a perfect opportunity for your co-host to just rip into you, have you looked into this at all?

Have you looked at any correlations between testosterone and sex drive, for example? Is that in there? Do we know about this from the literature for women with higher testosterone? I don't actually know that we do know that. Yeah, I think that is in there actually. And one of the treatments for low sex drive is testosterone for women. Oh man, I'll tell you what.

So this is quasi related to the field that I was in and my wife is still in. I'd be very curious. I will ask her about this and see if she has any literature. Is she available or like, could you ask her? I could go, well, she's on the couch drinking wine. I could go like bother her about this. I'm not asking you to drag her on camera,

but if she was within talking distance, say, hey, is there a correlation between high tea and sex drive in women? I'll go grab another beer, and in passing, throw this out there. Alright, it's a good plan. So when I saw this thing with Jimmy Kimmel, I was like, dude, there's another one.

I don't think he's making that up. It's his girlfriend, and she's clearly – this is a while ago before she was as good as she is now. And she's clearly – she's doing a good job of playing it off, but she's very clearly self-conscious about it. Very self-conscious. She's doing a good job – or at least I haven't watched the clip. I've only seen this small amount, but I guarantee he's going to be kind of holding her hand through it, kind of making it more of a joke.

That's what I imagine. Do you want to watch some more? Sure. Alright, I'm at 36 seconds. Can we sync up there? Yep, I'm at 36. Ready, set, oh wait, I need to I'm sorry, big screen. Ready, set, play. I'm a romantic screen ready set play

He's fat too look how fat he is Now I'm thinking of this I'm sorry I'm thinking of the surprise and I just I'M THINKING OF THE SURPRISE AND I JUST HAD SO MUCH FUN ACTUALLY JUST THINKING ABOUT OUR GOOD TIMES THAT NOW I'M BUMMED OUT ABOUT THE SURPRISE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE BUMMED OUT ABOUT THE SURPRISE? DID IT BREAK?

THIS IS SOMETHING, OKAY, NO. SO THERE'S THIS GOOD SURPRISE. HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND I HAVEN'T SPILLED IT IN A LONG TIME BECAUSE I ACTUALLY, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I MADE IN OCTOBER. I THINK SHE DRAGS THIS OUT

FOR 40 MORE SECONDS. I THINK SHE DRAGS THIS OUT FOR 40 MORE SECONDS. I THINK SHE DRAGS THIS OUT FOR 40 MORE SECONDS. I THINK SHE DRAGS THIS OUT FOR 40 MORE SECONDS. know so there's this good surprise he doesn't know what it is and i haven't spilled it in a long time because i actually it was something that i made in she drags us out for 40 more seconds obviously we can jump out if you want so we can jump out i could do an ad pause what she's gonna say is i'm fucking matt damon and it's a big joke and they have like several episodes about it um but i i heard the part about you love me for my hair because it's high t and that's why i like sex so much and i was like yeah oh did you get an answer yeah yeah her her response was uh

she didn't give me like a quarter like a sight or anything off this one but off the top of her head but it was yeah that was those were related and she thought well she wasn't entirely sure that it was related to the there's a number of components of high sex drive. And one of them is desire. And that was related that testosterone was at least linked to desire in women. So that's an interesting pickup. Yeah. Yeah.

So yeah, Milo was on the show. And Milo, you don't know him maybe, but Milo Yiannopoulos. He's kind of like a pro-Trump guy. He's got like crazy blonde hair. Do you know him at all? I don't, but go on don't but you might recognize his picture anyway he was on our show and uh um you know when when they were making fun of the things i like in women he's like oh what he's attracted to high t women he immediately understood oh he is gay though shit yeah well played He's like I like Taylor good burn. I Need a little aloe vera after that

Milo back on cuz he's had all kinds of adventures doing his faggot to whatever he called it Like what did he cut? It's something like that. It's called like the raging faggot tour or something like that The dangerous faggot tour he's gay. He's gay. He's a conservative gay man. It's a lot of fun. What it really is... It's just such a weird amalgamation of ideas. Where it's like, he'll go for like 30 minutes on feminism

and something, whatever. And you'll be like, man, this guy is hitting a lot of excellent points. And then he'll come around to something else, like religion or some, you know, he's against around to something else like religion or some you know he's against gay marriage against against gay marriage or whatnot and then it's like well where did that that rational guy go and what are we talking about now like thing is this overall i don't know what his real stances are because i understand him like the way that i interpret

everything is he's a professional provocateur you know like he made his name on the gamer gate thing right so suddenly he's pro like 4chan like the unpopular side um and then you know he's anti-feminist right so you know they pull him on for all this stuff and now he's like super pro trump and like whatever pisses people off I swear like if suddenly like kittens were the rage he'd be anti cat up there on Fox News talking about the evils of cats and oh yeah he's good I love it too and he's amazing at his job but the thing that I like mostly the thing that I like most about him is like when when i hear him he wins almost every debate he's very good at it he's got a handful of sources he can reference you know someone

mentions pay gap he's like oh my god you have fallen into my briar patch let's talk pay gap because i've got like 30 things i can mention to knock down anything you say and um he's just he's hard as shit by the way to respond to a citation in real time that you haven't read or acknowledged yourself, especially when they're claiming that citation backs their point. Dude, he did it to me. And I – mostly I didn't debate him too much because, one, I'd probably lose. And, two, I was – You agreed with him on a ton of stuff. Yeah, I agreed with him on a lot of stuff too.

But there was other stuff where, like, I just felt like he was flat out wrong. And I asked him for a citation and he gave me one and I looked it up and it was full of shit. And I read it to him and it said the opposite of what he wanted it to. And I was very proud of myself. I don't remember which one that was. Probably doesn't bother him too much. I remember it was Washington Post. Because it probably works the most of the time.

But you're right. In real time, if I just say, no, no, no, Barnes and Wobbles says that the pay gap is fake. Well, Wobbles is a senior figure in that movement. He knows what he's talking about. The Jeremy Wobbles.

Right? Jeremy Wobbles? Dr. Wobblesbles I always hate this because we get this as or we did when I was in psychology for publishing right when you get an article reviewed so you're putting an article you've written your paper done your experiment written your paper and submitted it for publication and this is the type of comment that reviewers give you is they'll say

well we disagree and they'll cite some literature at you and like you have to respond to that literature when you get this paper published but at least the initial affront on that is you're like i have no fucking idea what the citation is and you go read through it and you don't it doesn't always correspond what they're saying but that that is a very big if you get that live in real time like i have to do that in the immediate sense you have like almost no recourse science says here's a citation well i haven't read that citation i guess i have to take your word that you're not just flat out fucking lying to me and he does when you go and read it it's a core part of his technique and um and very effective i imagine well i don't know why

like if i if i knew that i was going up against him on whatever cnn six days from now i would come arm with 18 citations exactly so that regardless of what he said i could have my own and at least but they always just get stumped. You know, no, you know, freaking Dr. Jeremy Waddle said this. They do like a shotgun approach in a lot of debates where it's like they don't go, well, you know, Smith, Klein, Stevenson in 2006 demonstrated this. They'll be like, well, Smith did this. And then two years later, so-and-so did this.

And if you look back to the 90s, you got four studies right here, bop-bop-bop-bop-bop, and it's like, well, now how... Are we even arguing, or are you ranting at me? Yeah. Yeah, I can see why he wins so much, because he seems to be the only person who came armed. Oh, that's one thing that we... I don't remember who called him on it, or if any

of us... It might have been you, Woody, but he did some... an excellent rhetorical device to unjustly win an argument is to to frame it in a different way straw man which is the way you do it uh yeah well he wasn't arguing against a fictional opponent he was just miss a straw man is that a straw man is when i take your point make it ridiculous perhaps or misstate it i guess and then argue against that he didn't say our point what he said to i think it was you woody where he said like uh oh i just can't believe

anybody as smart as you would fall for that or something along those lines i don't remember exactly how he articulated it but we call them on it being like no no no that's that's some sneaky bullshit like you simultaneously bolster your own point while undermining us and cutting out our credibility like you're brilliant at this well done you're a good orator but that's not I'm not nearly as smart as you think I am but you're full of shit I know that

I do not have a lot of respect for my intelligence to think that I'm going to sit here and be like well I've been bamboozled an ad hominid attack is when I say well you would say that you're a tailor or something but to be fair like i've been on the show a couple times now and a lot of times you call me out for strawman stuff and a lot of times i'm not responding i'm not trying to for me a lot of when i look at an argument is i look at the extremes of that if you're if you're giving me especially a statement

that is what strawman does well but i find that you give me an absolute statement like, for example, anyone who makes money is worth respect. If you give me that statement, one of the ways – That's what happens though, right? I'll say – Wait, wait. Give me a second here. I'll say like, you know what? I feel like new money, it might be more impressive than old money because they probably earned it.

And then you say, say you know like some new money people got there by writing books for homicide tell all i guess well hold on a second because again i'm not i'm not trying to rehash what we did earlier i'm trying to talk about because this has happened a couple times on this show right when we talk is that when you present an example that has these these these elements of like this is a fact because this is true in all scenarios the first thing that comes to my my response to this is I bet you I can think of scenarios where that's not true and you're immediately calling them strawman arguments because I'm taking extreme of that but part of the reason to take that extreme is to

say this example is not true in all scenarios you can't use a blanket statement like that to describe that's a that's slippery slope not straw man right where you know if we let the same argument where it is you know if we like gay people get married soon people will be marrying goats and microwaves he takes my position and restates it as a more extreme ridiculous version of that and says you know what that's not true in my mind i'm taking your position and citing an example of that position that is but oftentimes you like you you say you rephrase my point. Like you'll say, you know, well, when you make a blanket statement that all people are

this, and I'm like, wait, you know, that's easier to talk against than what I actually said. Definitely rephrase your point. Because part of rephrasing, the reason why I rephrase people's arguments when they give me an argument is to make sure that we're on the same page. But wait, every time you rephrase it, you take it and you make it more extreme, and it's easier to argue against. No, no, no. I rephrase it, you take it and you make it more extreme. And it's easier to argue against. No, no, no.

I rephrase it. We rephrase the point. You say someone says something, you maybe disagree with it or don't disagree. You rephrase it to be like, okay, this is what you're saying. And here's me offering an example that's different from what you're saying. And then draw your conclusions from that. That's a lot of what I feel like we end up doing on this show. I'm trying to remember, like you were like, hey, all things that make money have great worth. And I'm like, well, I didn't quite say that. I mean, some things that make money are,

you know, bad for society. Sure. But when I said that, that was part of what I was saying. And again, we're rehashing this. I don't wish to rehash this. But like what my statement was supposed to be when I started to say that it was part of half of a statement talking about the differences between those two. I was, you know, I wanted to say that. It was part of half of a statement talking about the differences between those two. I wanted to bring that, we went back to this later in the show when I was talking about perhaps old money investing over time is worth something too. I was trying to provide counterpoints to both of those situations. And we got caught up on the one, anyways. My point was being that this, I could see that being an interesting thing to say about that when you're talking with this guy who does this professionally for a living

because there's a technique to that. I feel like sometimes you point the finger, this is straw man. Maybe, but this is a way of interpreting what you're saying and reflecting on it. The way that Milo does it is really, have you ever seen Thank You For Smoking? Yes.

Where he does that little example with this kid where it's like, we're going to argue about, you know, you say that chocolate's the best ice cream and I say that vanilla is. And he does the whole example of like, I don't have to be right. I just have to show that you are not right and you are incorrect. And then by process of elimination, I'm the one who's correct, you know? And Milo definitely does that. And i like the guy and i agree with him on most shit but he definitely has a huge tendency to pull that kind of stuff and just go for character attacks which you kind of you almost have to do that like you have to engage in those character attacks because the other side's gonna do it you can't be the side that's like you know what we

should we need to talk about economic policy and they're like well you're a racist it's like now we're already at a standstill. Sorry, we can't go forward. You almost have to sink to their level, fight them out, and then once all the mud has been slung, then you can actually talk about shit. So here's what Filthy does. I'll say something like, you know,

I think that men are stronger than women. Right? And he'll be like, well, when you say that every single man is stronger than any woman, I think there's examples where that's not true, and clearly that's right, but I feel like you've taken my thing. Absolutes trigger me every time.

This is like a straw man inception. I don't know who to put it. Absolutes trigger the fuck out of me, because I rarely agree with absolutes. You know who would not? It's not meant to be an absolute. Kyle wants to go to the ad read, but it's not meant to be an absolute. When I say that, yeah, you just fucking chill on this. We're talking.

Squarespace wouldn't do that to you. Squarespace doesn't engage in straw man arguments. What do they do, Kyle? Keep going. Let's continue with the straw mans. Maybe you think it's on radio. I don't know. I find it interesting to talk about the technique.

The technique of like arguing bullshit. Well, what he does is he takes anything – not anything I say. That's getting too far. But he takes what I say, rephrases it as an absolute, and then argues against that. And, you know, I find that to be unfair. It's like now you've taken what I've said and you've misquoted it and made it into an argument that's easier to get

a quick way to respond to that then is when I rephrase something you've said and you disagree with that correct the rephrasing well sometimes let's play it back no we can't play it back we will we won't play it back we will we won't have to do it at some point the comments

will redo this for us and we'll hear both of what we said reinterpreted by like 100,000 people on the internet the comments are going to take care of this we're going to have a measured reasonable discussion down below we'll just go with the majority

opinion on that because that will solve it. I would say there's no one I'd rather trust for fair, reasonable analysis than YouTube commenters. You know who I would trust more than that? Maybe only one person. It would probably be Squarespace. Tell me more about this Squarespace.

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Does anyone have a topic? I was looking at my list of topics, and I just have some lame jokes and shit. Are you ready for a lame joke while you think of a topic? Yeah, let's hear it. My friend died in an orgy the other day, and nobody knows why. It's a fucking mystery. Get it? Is Taylor here to laugh?

Because we need him. This is how they always go. He hasn't had a laugh yet. This is like the 22nd fucking joke. Nobody's cracked a smile. It's become a thing now. I swear I could tell the greatest joke, and they'd be like, no, that's a flop.

That was the segment? All right, let's talk UFC talk then. Let's talk about Lesnar coming to UFC 200, apparently getting some sort of four-month grace period where they're not going to test him for PEDs. And the Hunt guy, I guess, who's supposed to be his opponent thinks that's bullshit. And so does everybody else who has eyes, I guess. Yeah, I've been so busy lately.

I feel like I know he's getting some sort of USADA, like, I don't know, grace period. But isn't it like... I don't know. I don't know. How does it work exactly? The Lesnar... These are what? Performance enhancing drugs. Giving him a four-month...

There's something about some sort of four-month period where there will be no testing or something like that. He's fighting in four months. He's fighting in July, I think, right? That's when... There's going to be no testing. What are they particularly worried about in UFC? What type of performance enhancing drugs? What are they doing? There's going to be no testing. What are they particularly worried about in UFC? What type of performance entrance?

What are they doing? There's a very long list. Well, anything that makes you faster or stronger or helps your recovery, really. The main thing is faster and stronger because you're punching guys in the face. But recovery, if you're a career athlete, over the course of two careers, if I'm able to get that fight in and get two fights a year every year, but some years you can't get the second or the third fight. Some people fight a lot, three, four, five times.

They're fighting amateur fights because they just like it. But if you're that guy who can squeeze in that extra fight a year, then all of a sudden you're a career fighter rather than somebody who washes out, and maybe eventually you get better. But some of these guys you see, after they get cracked down upon, their entire physique changes, their entire physique changes their entire style changes the way that the things that they used to use uh successfully in the in the octagon or wherever they're fighting don't play anymore they're like wow he's he can't kick that leg

as hard anymore look at that there's no pop on that all of a sudden this guy's lost 15 pounds of muscle that really was putting him over the edge so there's so many peds now whether they're doing blood doping doping to up the oxygen uh yeah what's that they have um they have a lot of things that they so the ufc many rules are very strict you can't take an iv that's the thing why because sometimes people use IVs to dilute their levels of something else that's bad. So that just makes it like so you it's not that the IV is bad. It's the fact that now I can change your like ratio of something. And I prevented your ability to do that.

You can't take laxatives. But alcohol content, it's your percentage of alcohol to the rest of your blood. Right. You know, it's how much alcohol is making up your blood. Well, if you add an extra pint of saline to your blood, then all of a sudden everything's diluted by that 20%. I think you got five pints in you, right? Five or seven? The laxatives that you might have in your

pantry are illegal in the UFC because it helps people cut weight. That way I can be strong. I can have more muscle content, drain my body of liquids, and then... So why are they giving this guy the pass? That's the question. So he's a WWE...

WWE. Yeah, WWE wrestler. Of course, they're all on roids, you know, to put on a show. And... Is he going from acting to fighting? He's done a fighter before. He was the heavyweight champion of the UFC For maybe six fights Pre-Usada

So he was in the steroid Era But the thing about this guy is he is a real freak of nature They had to make him special gloves You know what I mean he's one of these people who has to turn sideways To walk through a normal sized door I don't think he's that tall Maybe he is maybe 6'3

He's like 6'4". But he looks like he should be 6'8", to be a normal dimension. He's wide enough for 6'8", but he's 6'4". He's a real monster. He's like the Gunzerker from Borderlands 2. He's that guy.

Here's my favorite proof of this. Oh, shit. We've been in the big screen for a long time. Go ahead, Kyle. I know what in the big screen for a long time. Wait, the hammer fist. Go ahead, Kyle. I know what you're trying to say. Hammer fists for this guy are like knockout blows. Like he'll – he can – it's just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

And it's like getting hit in the head with a rubber mallet. He's just – it really is because, you know, he's squeezing that rubber glove with all of his might, which must be incredible, and he's smashing you in the head. I would rather get hit with a rubber mallet. That picture I linked, which people are watching, he's 15 years old. No, he is not. He has a bunch of bull testosterone

injected into a 13-year-old Royce. Holy shit! 15-year-old Brock Lesnar. He's obviously on rides. But I don't know that he was on rides at 15. And maybe crystal meth. Look at that look in his eyes. Yeah, he sacrificed his

eyebrows for all that. He looks like he just ate a goat's liver or something as part of his daily ritual. He's so pumped up there. What a maniac. And look at those dead eyes. Like a dog's eyes. What's happening. And look at those dead eyes. Like a doll's eyes. What's happening beyond there?

Count it to eight. Yeah, we'll count it to eight. Yeah, what a freaking nation, man. I am looking forward to him coming back and fighting. I know Chiz was like, Chiz wants to act like he's as much of a technocrat as he is an MMA junkie.

But he's just, oh, this is no good for the sport. This is what I want to see. I'm just like, hey, I really like watching two guys smash each other in the head and here's a freakishly big guy who looks good at smashing. Let's get him in there and see what happens. What's the worst that could happen? Some people get smashed?

That's on his resume. That's like line one. Good at smashing. I'm real good at smashing. Anything, anywhere. That's on his resume. That's like line one. Good at smashing. That's what I'm trying to find. I'm real good at smashing anything, anywhere. That's the best part about the UFC. If you look at boxing, the matchups that you really want to happen either don't or happen 10 years later when they're both old men ready to wrap up their careers. And some of the most successful and prolific of boxers, at least in my era, are the defensive boxers. The guys that nobody wants to pay good money to watch. Mayweather. Yeah. Mayweather. Yeah. And Mayweather's incredibly talented. He's one of the best that's ever lived. He totally is. In a real boxing fight to the death,

I guess, if we got out there and fought it out to the death, he'd be the best in the world, right? Because you'd never fucking hit the guy. He'd just keep running from you and you'd be all gassed out down they'd murder you but that's not entertaining I want to see you know I go back and watch you know Ali just died so I would love this with you I love the idea that it is a fighting environment with the best type of fighting goes in I love the fact that you know and this was this was it wasn't correct me because I don't fall this like you guys do but I remember there was a UFC long before this UFC

that was essentially, like, different fighting styles coming into it, and there was a lot of really fucking loose, like, rule systems into this. Like Hank Abbott. Yeah. Yeah, right? Okay. And then they basically revised this shit and said, all right, you can't be doing this really dirty shit to each other anymore. We're, like, having too many, like, injuries and the rest of it,

and we're going to regulate this a little bit, but it's still roughly that same idea. Sponsors just didn't like it. They took the shh and the eye gouging and the rape out, which was my favorite part. The sponsors wouldn't get on board with it. The penetration no longer allowed the Oscar. No penetration.

They followed suit, went with it. Sorry, you were trying to correct? They wanted to be approved by the commission. I forget what advantages they had there. I think it was better venues. And that's why they – and they had to, like, work with the commission. This is, like, the boxing commission to come up with MMA rules. And some of them are really dumb.

I don't know if this is a wives' tale for sure, but the guy watched someone break a bunch of boards with elbows in this like uh it's called a 12 to 6 elbow and uh he wanted like broke a bunch of boards broke like concrete so they're like all right this particular kind of strike is so outrageous that we can't allow it um i have heard that called an old wise hell that was a spine thing that made him scared but but yeah 12 to 6 uh elbows are illegal supposedly because of board breaking but they came up with these people and they said all right no eye gouging no nut hitting no 12 to 6 elbows on the mat or three limbs on the mat or three points of contact on the map maybe you can't hit the guy in the head right yeah i think it's anything other than the soles of your feet are on

the mat that's the rule yeah so you can put your hand down or whatever if you're on one knee that's yeah i've seen him do that and it's such it's such dirty play like the guy will be gassed or stunned and he'll put a hand down and and just cause a whole like cause like a five second moment of confusion with between the ref the other fighter and himself where everybody's like well what do i do and he's just like pro at something right like you know all the fucking rules back and forth and you make them the best for you all the time but i agree like on some level like the doping stuff is interesting because what you really want for me at least the appeal of ufc and i don't watch it a ton but the stuff when i do watch it the appeal for me has always been this is supposed to be the best man

whatever this rule system is and like they can come in with all these different fighting styles or whatever else but this is supposed to be the best man coming out of this. And that could be the best man, as far as I'm concerned, could be the best man on fucking steroids. As long as they're both on steroids. You don't really want the best man when one of them is taking something and one isn't. Yeah, you can't have them both on steroids.

Why? I don't understand that either. They're bad for you. Yeah, I get they're bad for you. But I don't care what the rule system is. I don't care who wants to sign up for this rule system. i just want the rule system to be even if i'm watching this shit i hear you in in the me of like 10 years ago or something would have been like write them all up i want to see these freakish monsters go after each other but because i have one friend who's a ufc fighter and he's clean it's like oh god so he doesn't want to have to deal with that as competition because he wants to balance fight he doesn't want to have to deal with that as competition.

Because he wants the balanced fight. He doesn't want to have to be doing that. And by the way, we're not hitting baseballs here. He doesn't want to ruin his body either. You know, we're not hitting baseballs. The people who fight a steroid user could have permanent brain damage. Michael Bisping's got one eye. It's all fucked up.

You look at him, you're like, oh, my God. He's a champion, though. Who cares? He's deformed. Who? Michael Bisping? Bisping. Bisping. P-i-n-g

and uh um yeah when you get a shot of his eyes one pupil is like the size of his uh iris i think i have my terms right you can see those punches coming and this guy was a uh was a ufc fighter he is yeah he actually just won the 185-pound belt. Can he see out of his right eye? Well, no. It's inhibited. Colors. Yeah, right? Colors. Shapes.

He knows a punch is coming. But yeah, I guess, you know, when they changed from characters on my TV to people, it was all of a sudden, it was like, you know, we need to chill a little bit, you know? Hell, like, I don't like formula one rules right i'll just put the best thing out there that could possibly exist but when you put people in the car like people that you give a shit about all of a sudden it's like oh you know what maybe they shouldn't go 400 miles an hour like because every accident's a death i want some of that speed racer shit from the future where the car has got going upside down like roller coaster tracks and stuff.

Or Death Race. NASCAR has restrictor plates. I'm talking way out of my element here. But they do things to slow it down. Yeah, because on certain tracks. Because if they don't, they go really fucking fast on some of those super speedways. And they'll die. Right?

Like there's not a lot of safety. Well, if you hit the wall going 200, then yeah. And that's what could happen yeah and um you know when i first heard it i was like restrictor plates that's bullshit why would you slow down the cars and now there's a stricter place or not restricted place again for me it's the equal footing that's important to the sport right if you're looking for a sport which is supposed to be about in some degree skill and athleticism between these two people i don't care what that threshold is that you want to set that at and you're arguing for a threshold that removes the drug element of it because of concerns for health and i'm fine with that but i want it to be even so if you come

back to the original question you're asking about what you know what is the thought process behind this person not having drug testing the other people having drug testing that bothers me a little bit because it takes that even element out of that that fight I'm what they're doing is what they're doing is they've had a few shakes up lately with their big-name fighters and if you few issues there and they need a big name every time they go out because the UFC is not a huge money-making enterprise it's not like they there they don't need to do poorly. That doesn't look good. And he doesn't want people to – he doesn't want articles being written that say, you know, it's on the downswing.

So he's always got to come up with something bigger and better. The 100 and 200 in particular are like – they pull out all the stops. Every name in it is a big one. And for 200, their biggest pull, they – So 200 here is what? Fight or wait? Event. their biggest pull um they so 200 years what fight or wait event event yeah they're 200 they name their events like ufc 199 yeah this is ufc 200 and uh um actually their 199th event but whatever um ufc 200 is supposed to be a pull out all the stops get the biggest draws ever and conor mcor, their biggest draw right now, didn't show up for some media event.

They're not letting him fight. And they're grabbing the biggest draw from UFC 100 and pulling him back. So UFC 100 is the current biggest pay-per-view ever. Who is Brock Lesnar fighting? Mark Hunt. How long ago was UFC 100? How old is this person who's fighting relative to the rest of the sport?

He's like 38, isn't he? Brock Lesnar? I'm going to call Brock Lesnar 38, and I think that fight happened in like 2011. Is that what it is? Five years.

I'm pretty shaky on the second number, but 20 a year long ass time and a lot of professional athletes well he does he is pro wrestling he had this what's it what's the illness he uh he had or the condition what's it called something close to dervic derviculitis derviculitis diverticulitis thank you and uh that that really was a big problem for him it kind of ended his ufc career and and he was saying on the steve austin podcast a while back that it took him a couple years to get right after that and to be feeling right after that and how bad he felt that it kind of took his championship away from him and he thought he had a good thing

going there and so he has a deal with with the WWE that he can have this fight. And I think his contract with them is up next year. But the thing is, he gets paid incredibly well at WWE. He's not... It pales in comparison. Conor McGregor's always bragging about money and being silly with it.

This Montana farm boy, or wherever Brock Lesnar's from, I see him in the offseason wearing Carhartts and messing around with cows and shit and baling hay. This is the guy who's rich. This is the guy who's making that WWE money is where it's at. And nobody punches you in the face. Not for realsies, anyway.

Oh, a couple things. So UFC 100 was 2009. So seven years ago. More than I thought. Shit. thing so one of us well ufc 100 was 2009 so seven years ago more than i thought and um shit well anyway he's 38 yeah he was 38 um yeah anyway they're bringing them back he's their biggest draw ever and they're gonna make 200 uh supposedly huge i'll buy it i'm interested every which of these we prefer though i if if you could watch If you could watch Ronda get the rematch, Lesnar fight this Mark Hunt guy,

who I don't care about Mark Hunt, or if you could see McGregor's rematch against the Speech Impediment Man. Yeah, reverse order. McGregor, then Lesnar, then Ronda. That's my preference. Is Ronda fighting in this one? Ronda's out for... She's got a knee surgery or something like that,

which I think is bullshit. I think Ronda's retooling for a fucking year or something. Oh, man. This guy Mark Hunt looks like fucking Uncle Tito from Rocket Power. Mark Hunt is a beast. This guy is going to get his ass beat.

Mark Hunt's going to win. I'll take that money. My money's on Mark Hunt. Mark Hunt. Oh, really? Yeah. He doesn't look like he's in shape at all. It doesn't matter, though.

He's 5'10", 265, and he's 42 years old. Oh, dude, he cuts like 40 pounds to make 265. I don't know much about Mark Hunt, but I like him in the fight. I don't think much of Lesnar and much of his technique. I think if Lesnar ever gets you in a position where he can hit you in the head just it's i i don't think much of lesnar um and and much of his technique um i think if lesnar ever gets you in a position where he can hit you in the head over and over yeah it doesn't matter what if you're a fucking gorilla like like you can't nobody could take this for very long like like like those fists are like this mark hunt's a grappler that's his thing he tries to take you down and win on the ground i'm sorry i said that back i always rock lesnar

is the grappler. Mark Hunt is the striker. Mark Hunt's a former K1 champion, which is a kickboxing league. And it's like a big deal kickboxing league. And he doesn't look like much, but he has a chin that seems to be made of granite. And he has fucking cannons for hands. And I just think that Lesnar won't successfully take him down like he wants to because no one seems to and i don't think he's good at that anymore lesnar doesn't

like being hit right he's this that's his thing he like he really doesn't like being punched in the face so when mark hunt does that a couple times his whole game plan gets rearranged and that's how i see it playing out. I would agree with that. And with my amateur opinion, I just don't see him being the loser was in 2007 or whenever it was. I don't think he's as fast anymore. And he's not, he's not,

he's not a speedy wrestler. Who's gonna, who's gonna take this guy's legs out from under him. I don't think he was an NCAA champion, but like he's 38 now. We'll see. That's what I mean. Like,

I don't think he's that version of i mean like i don't think he's that version of him anymore i don't think he's that speedy wrestler brock who could on the other hand 38 year olds are 19 god knows what he's on to it's gotta be the best of the best right like like you don't he's not just on some uh some some like testosterone he's on a whole cocktail of stuff that's making every happy trail is fucking thick as shit oh looking at that man in a bikini that tell me more about his nostril mark hunt's ufc record i guess this is mixed martial arts record on his wikipedia i don't know if that's a big deal but he's 12 10 and 1 so pretty much 500 yeah he had are they feeding bro it looks like it from someone who has no idea anything about

UFC it looks like they're just feeding this guy to Brock Lesnar like just well we want to make sure that we get a couple of big haymakers from Brock so people are liking it like see it's the other way around people are surprised that this is the matchup they're like wow Brock only gets one fight like one fight a year maybe they were i thought they were just gonna feed him somebody but he's fighting this guy this guy could fuck brock up and and not in a nice way this is the guy who could break brock's face this is the guy could hurt him and make him look bad it could it could be a 30 second fight he's a slight vegas odds favorite mark hunt yeah he's plus 170 or something he's 42 plays... Because it's just...

I can't imagine a 42-year-old still being that good at this. Heavyweights are good when they're old, though. Really? That's interesting. Brock Lesnar's got so much... That's got to be specific to that kind of sport thing, because mostly you hear 42, and you're like, that's way past their physical peak. They're just not fast, and that's what you lose. They don't need to be.

Like, the little guy... Those 150-pound guys are so lightning quick that if they just lose a millisecond, all of a sudden they're that millisecond behind and they're the ones eating jabs the whole match in the eyes. But the big guys are always just barely moving along. I feel like Lesnar's steroid use has like – I feel like maybe his muscles are less worn out because he's just been able to do whatever he wants with steroids this whole time. has like, I feel like maybe his muscles are less worn out.

You know, because he's just been able to do whatever he wants with steroids this whole time. Mark Hunt can't do that, I assume. Like, he doesn't have a steroid body. Mark Hunt has like a, you know, 4th of July picnic year-round body. He's a potato skin kind of guy. A potato skin kind of guy. I like potato skin.

He's an every-any-tizer-at-Applebee's kind of guy a potato skin i like potatoes he's an every any tizer at applebee's kind of guy um mark hunt has a person let's hope he never hears those words from you mark hunt does these walk-off knockouts all the time like just he he decks you he lays you out and then everyone else in the sport jumps on you and gets the ref to pull you off because it's a risk. A knockout isn't how you lose the fight. The ref has to decide this guy's not intelligently defending himself anymore. If you get knocked out and then by the time that I get on top of you and you start making moves to escape your position, you're fine.

In boxing, the second you're down, there's a timeout they count to 10 they let you do your thing in mma if you're knocked out and you fall like stiff and then you come to fight still goes mark hunt he knocks you out and he just knows somehow you're not getting up again it's clock and then he walks away with his hands up i like him a lot more if that's true i'll need to watch some videos and and see when he does that because something i don't like in the ufc does it is something i hate in the ufc is when there's just an awesome like oh there's back and forth and then just pop like oh and he's knocked out and he's clearly like knocking on death's door like like ground, and the guy goes,

Superman flying in. And it's like, oh my god, I assume you're a professional, which means you should have some sort of grasp on whether or not someone's currently conscious. But man, rule sets will fuck you on that, though, right? Because I'm telling you, that's essentially a problem of the rules, right? Because the rules say you don't win until this guy is declared out by the the judge if you hit him and see he's like fucking dead you keep punching him till the judge says something because you don't win the fight otherwise oh i know it's like the rule i just i i don't like seeing that when a guy's down there and just taking huge blows where

it's like oh oh jeez oh fuck and then he has to stand there like 10 seconds later like well i think you could have gone better in the beginning that was right especially when i like the losing fighter like you just said it you nailed it man like when he's on the ground in like the fencing position and you're like you're like flying through the air getting like that full body weight punch on it yeah i'm so glad i have nothing to do with the ufc because oh yeah it went every time joe fights i'm really happy that it's him and not me because he's far more qualified to handle this situation you know anytime joe fights i'm glad it's not me in that ring about to fight another man to the death. Yeah, I'm just like, I want to help in some way, but I really know it should be him and not me.

You know, if we were choosing up, if beforehand it was like, whatever, like Michael Chessie in there, and it's like, Joe, do you want this? Should I get this? I really think it should be you. I get this. I really think it should be you. Stay around though, right? Joe would be like, you know, man, I think you should take this fight. You should go take him out.

You're just like, I don't know, Joe. I mean, you do have a dozen years of martial arts. Because, I mean, look at you. You're ripped, Joe. You're ripped. Look at you, Woody. You're all tan from cutting grass. Look at those thighs.

Kick him. Lots of kicks. Lots of kicks. You're good. from cutting grass. Look at those thighs. Kick him. Lots of kicks. Lots of kicks. You're good. Speaking of how gay I am, when I saw Joe on TV, I thought he was a normal person. And that was one of the things I liked about him. He has a computer science degree. And he worked in IT before he was in the UFC. And I was just like, oh, this guy is like the super version of me, right?

If hypothetical Woody had aspired to be a professional athlete, he might land where Joe is. And then I started meeting him in person and like in Tokyo. It's so gay. In Tokyo in particular, he would like it be in his underwear, like just like getting ready, putting on. Dude, there's like eight people in the room. It's not like you wait for. You've showered with him. I mean, in the room it's not like you wait you've showered with him i mean it's at this point i don't think i showered with him i would have spit this out i anyway i saw him in his underwear and it was like oh yeah he's not normal yeah i stand corrected he's a fucking professional athlete and he looks like

elaborate for your own sake on that one he's oh i wasn't talking about his dick i didn't even see where you were going on that but yeah no like all this like he's got nothing that could be considered a love handle right like this is like normal men like all men right even like fittish men there's still something some body fat there that you could like, you know, whatever. Not Joe. Like, there's bone. There's a muscle there. There's a bulge

that he can flex with. There's a 16th inch of skin on a hip bone. He might grab you with his club handle. Yeah, and of course he's got the whole abs. You see him flex at the weigh-ins and he doesn't have the pecs that some of the – like a Brock Lesnar has. But you see him in person, and you're like, oh, no, he does. He's not normal.

I've seen him do those – Muscle-ups? Muscle-ups, where you do like a pull-up, and then you push down. And the thing is, normal people practice those. Normal people are like, yeah, you know, it took me 18 months. I figured out I got some coaching and now I can do muscle ups. Joe was just like, he found out what a muscle up was and goes, oh, yeah, look, I can do those. I asked him.

We were in this little like octagon like at that gym. And I was like, can you do one of those things? I think maybe someone else did one that was there because it's full of athletes at that place. He was like, oh yeah! He knocks out a few rapidly. It would be like if he asked me if I could do a push-up. I was like, yeah. I just did five real quick. Of course I could do a push-up.

He was like, yeah, of course I could do those. Just knocked out five. When your job is fighting another grown man who's trained to fight you, like hey can you lift yourself up with that bar and then use that bar to push yourself even higher he's like uh yeah is it gonna fight back yeah i'm gonna be fine black guy on the street in boston wait what so we were standing outside a hotel in boston it was the hotel that everybody else was staying and i was staying in a much nicer place.

And the huge, huge black guy walks by, and he recognizes Joe. And they have a little conversation. And then at the end of it, for some reason, I think the guy said, I bet you can't pick me up, or you don't look that strong. There was something that said, and Joe picked him up. And the guy was huge. The guy was 350 pounds. Joe was like, picks him up and like walking around with this guy. It was very impressive.

You don't remember this? I do now. It simultaneously blew your fucking mind at the same time. Dude, someone asked, Joe didn't ask me anything on Reddit or something. And the guy's like, hey, if there's something that would surprise me about a UFCfc fighter like you know fighting them what would it be and he's like how strong they are like they're they're not building show muscles right they're building effective muscles and also like within a weight class so they're doing they're almost all like these stealthy sports cars you know like the ones that pull eight seconds at the drag strip.

Like a sleeper. A sleeper. That's what I'm going for. They're almost all sleepers. They don't even look like badasses. And then they walk around picking up 350-pound people like it's nothing. There's a guy like something Finch. He's this really skinny guy with a long fucking face.

What is his name? John Finch or Fitch.'s some yeah john fitch yeah defensive yeah i watched some fight with him years and years ago at a buffalo wild wings knew fuck all about the sport and i was just like wow look at this guy this guy's gonna get his shit pushed in look at this wiry motherfucker what's he gonna do out there because the other guy wasn't as tall but he was like a stocky built guy i'm like that guy's clearly gonna win and this fitch guy just with these like fucking uh elastic arms just like like a like a mantis shrimp just just like that like just beat the shit out of this guy and capped it off with like some crazy long kick and it's like okay this

is a different kind of fighting than what you see in like a movie where a guy comes out just like anybody want to fight and it's like it's just not like that this is what I respect about the UFC is because it is supposed to be a sport that's based on this is the most

real fucking form of fighting we can come up with and we're going to get the most people who are the most trained, the most fucking fit to do this at a weight class and beat the shit out of each other. That's the part I respect about this board. It's incredible. You know what I wish it was, though, honestly? It's a top percentage performance thing.

So, we used to watch this thing called Japanese Bug Fights, and you had very specific insects fighting each other to the death, and I liked it because each time you saw something different. You had a wasp fighting a tarantula, and then all of a sudden it's a centipede fighting like a i don't know some wizard mantis bug or some some shit you don't get that in mma anymore because it's mma because everybody is has so much in their toolbox because everybody is both a good ground guy it should diverge in right you're actually getting it, it should diverge more and more to one thing

because you're looking at literally what's the fucking best. That's what I don't like. What I'm suggesting is that you forcibly craft it so that the karate guy comes out and is only doing the karate moves. That's what I want to see. You want to watch that guy get fucked? Yeah, I would watch that. I don't want each fighter to be using a mixture of martial arts.

I want combining two martial arts and making them fight. Wasn't that the original UFC stuff? It was, yeah. That was the original UFC stuff. It started like that. The pure Brazilian jiu-jitsu guys won everything, even though he was smaller. Like the 300-pound guys would come in,

sumo wrestlers would come in, and jits beat everything. And then what happened was people learned enough jits that it couldn't beat them anymore. And this just got more and more well-rounded. And now that's that. What's funny, what I like is this, though. Martial arts, for like 2,000 years, got into this really mystical bullshit stuff. And there's enough respect for their sensei that they would never question his ability to kill you with two fingers right like oh i can't i can't show you

a death touch because i would kill you and it's i have to be very selective on who i teach death touches to and then um uh you know and then of course there's the full-on like guys who would just try to get you to Fall and flip and stuff without touching you And then MMA came along And all the mystical shit Was gone All the stuff that worked against opponents who didn't fight back

Gone So like 80% of karate Just got thrown out the door Like 100% of Kung Fu Got thrown out the door And the things that do well Preserving Jiu Jitsu, American Boxing, Muay Thai thrown out the door. Like 100% of Kung Fu got thrown out the door. And the things that do well, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, American Boxing, Muay Thai, American Wrestling, well, I guess Global Wrestling.

Like there's a couple of them that just like, oh, yeah, these are the – it turns out the ones that train against resisting opponents are the ones that evolved into good shit. Can I – I want to tell a quick story about this. So I, a number of years ago, I was interested in doing, kind of like as a fitness thing, some MMA stuff. There was a guy near me. It was quite a drive. It was almost an hour drive.

We went only once or twice. The first time we went there, he was an ex-MMA guy. I don't remember his name for the life of me. I'd always had this problem before. I'd done stuff as a kid. I did Taekwondo as a little kid or this type of stuff. I never got really big into it. My issue was always like a lot of this feels like bullshit and i really wanted i'm like okay i really want this to be not bullshit so he told it he was we're in this position you know we did our warm-up we did all this shit we

were doing this uh we're in some position he's like you need to do this and i'm like i'm working with my partner who like i have a time like a friend of mine who we've gone to this with and about my size and like i'm trying to do this to him and he's not fucking moving at all like i'm like i'm like resist for real and he's like resisting i can't do it cannot throw this guy this i'm like this is bullshit and i'm thinking well okay well i asked the guy i'm like you know i you know like can you clarify like what happens if the person fights back there you know you haven't said that but they're not doing anything so he puts me in this position and i'm resisting in the way that this guy's been resisting to me and i'm like can't he can't move me so he just kicks me in the fucking head

that's basically what i do that and yeah yeah like it was like a kick or something like that and what his point was he didn't make this point verbally and perhaps he wasn't able to perhaps he was he didn't say it but it basically was if you resist in that way if you're putting your body weight in that way you leave yourself vulnerable to this other move and this other move happens to be a kick to the side of your head and for me that was like a moment i'm like good well you know i hated the learning of that because being kicked in the head isn't particularly fun right but at the same time i really respected the fact that i'm like okay but this is the answer i've been looking for that i haven't seen in each other positions what if they resist well by resisting they put

themselves in this position where their body weight is in such a way that they can't defend versus this and that to me was really instrumental to being like this makes this interesting to me i took kung fu for a bit and um kung fu is one of the arts that have kind of been declared bullshit and uh i remember one of the moves we learned was like when the guy puts his hand flat on your chest right like this he's like just take two hands on two fingers each pull them apart he's one-handed from now on and uh it's like has anyone ever given you their arm flat like not even a grab a shirt like maybe but an open-handed palm flat on chest like this isn't this is children play fight like dreaming up scenarios and you know he's here teaching it like their

effective fight techniques um we would of course never do anything resisting was almost impolite like it's not something you would do and uh but in mma and jits and stuff like it's yeah you resist fully i know what you mean filthy about the whole like it being a meritocracy meritocracy with UFC and that's why you like it because it's the best of the best in that weight class. What I've wanted for years is more exhibition stuff in sports. And my idea is and I've said this since I was like 12, which probably doesn't lend it to being a good idea, but you take the World Series team, the World Series winning team the Super

Bowl winning team so like the Red Sox and you know the boy I can't say the Patriots can be to Boston teams and you'd say the new LA Rams win the Super Bowl they have to play each other in basket yes or they have to play each other and even funnier ice hockey hockey, because most of them can't skate. Or a basketball, the Golden State Warriors have to take on the St. Louis Blues in football. You know, and it's like you mix up sports and you see what would happen. I think that baseball teams would get blown out in football and in hockey. And soccer. They have no fucking stamina on those teams.

Oh, that's true. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the stamina thing. Yeah, football players would really, really struggle and baseball players would struggle with, like, soccer, hockey, anything that was constantly moving. Yeah, certain positions in football I think would be fine, but there's a lot of them that wouldn't.

Oh, another idea, exhibition match. I've always wanted the best college football team to play the worst nfl team just as like a confidence boost for the jacksonville jaguars and a little reality check for alabama because it would be it would be kids would get hurt out there it would be a blood it's what you heard out there yeah taylor is 100% right on that. People think, like, dude, think about the number, like these top rookies that put, the best of all the teams,

like these top five guys. Their rookie years are not that great. And these are the best of the best, right? There's a bunch of 22-year-olds on Alabama who are not going into the NFL. Oh, yeah. My brother is a huge NFL fan. He talks about the size difference between, like between the college players and the pro players. He's always amused me when he talks about this.

He's like, these players are top of the top of the college. They're going in, and they're suddenly going into a sport where everyone was the top of the fucking top, and they had the experience, and they're fully matured adult males who are suddenly not what you were at 18, 19. Some of those people in Alabama are 18. Yeah, you put an NFL line up against Alabama's line,

it's going to be like Germany invading Poland when Poland came out on horseback thinking they were hot shit and then just get tanked. I think size is so underestimated. I was in this class, and there was this girl there, this girl whose father or something taught some sort of martial art, right? And she was like, you know, she'd been doing this since she was young. She was convinced, and I didn't care about any of this, right?

She was convinced that she would be able to throw me around like a ragdoll. I was like, she was probably 90 pounds. You know, I'm up 200 fucking, I'm over 200 pounds, right? I'm like, I don't care. You could have all the technique in the world. And yes, you probably can use my weight to some advantage. And I don't know any of this shit, I'm sure. But at some point, if I just don't want to be moved by you, you're fucking 90 pounds.

It doesn't matter how great you are of like of a of a technique element of oriented person you have to respect the pure fucking bodily mass of the person that would part across from you i would have been i never thought about that i would love to see that when i first started brazilian jiu-jitsu it might have even been like my second day or something and uh her name was tara La Rosa. If people watching, you can look her up world class and she weighed 135 and I weighed 187 ish maybe at the time. And, um, you know, there were aspects, there were things she couldn't do because I was so much bigger. Uh, you know, like she's wanting to move me in a certain way and she couldn't get that done but the thing is she was just so much better than me she kept beating me in the transition like in a point where like all right

now we're going from like you know we're moving two feet on the map and things are changing i'm giving up gifts to her that i didn't know i was you know i'm not keeping my elbows in i'm not doing this and she beat me every time sure yeah she just whooped me and that's in a and then they i was like what would happen if we added striking i was just asking you know not sitting not being cocky i was like you know because i'm longer than she is and i'm stronger than she is and they said it'd be even worse like this girl's got stand-up that will fuck you up she hits like a ton of bricks you won't like it and but even her with that huge skill differential she has to respect the fact that some things she could do with someone of her own weight she could not do with

your weight because it's just not going to be physically possible for her to make exactly so we used to say that a belt in brazilian jiu-jitsu was worth about 40 pounds that's a really interesting saying that's a really good saying as a ballpark. Anyway. That's kind of cool. I have to be heading off for now. I apologize for leaving early, but Filthy, it's excellent to talk to you again, man.

I really like the diversity you bring. Sometimes I have to remember it's all in good fun. There's three people shouting at me Trump, Trump, Trump, and I'm like, we're building a fucking wall around these people to ignore them. So it was a good... Not three people.

I totally helped you sometimes. I helped sometimes. I enjoyed the topic sometimes as well. Alright, I will see you guys later. Cheers. Cheers. So we got that whole ceiling meltdown fixed this week. That's all all patched up i had

a toilet that that like flowed on the on one floor and like the like ceiling like caved in on the in the basement and the uh and it was a huge mess septic or sewage related it's fucking pretty unpleasant to deal with it was just water though it was just clean water it was like it was like yeah it just kept it was just it was just clean water. It was just running. And we were gone all day. And it just caved the whole ceiling in. We got a dehumidifier, like a professional grade one, I guess. And I thought it was a stupid idea. But the thing removes, like, dozens of gallons out of the air and surrounding walls every day.

It's incredible, the amount. You're just dumping it out at the end of every day. It's great. So I think we got our little problem solved. It's a fucking mess though. Is there any remnant? Is there like a mild mildew smell? Oh no. It's all dried out

in there. They went to work. There's no evidence. It hasn't been painted yet but it's 95% done I guess. My quest for my gaming PC continues onward. I'm just waiting on those third-party cards, I guess, to come out, the 1080s. It's interesting to see you do this because every day you're researching it. Every day you're learning a little something, and you don't even particularly enjoy it.

You're just on a mission. Well, I want to achieve a few things things i want to be somewhat future-proof i don't want to do that thing where you you buy a piece that can't buy something expensive and premium and you can't even utilize the premium nature of it because you also didn't buy this other piece that's that's a bad idea i don't want my bill to be mocked because it's clear that you didn't even put any thought into this. I want it to be done correctly and I also want it to be

pretty badass, right? I want to be able to play in 1440 at like 50, 60 frames at least. So all of that combined means this thing's going to cost well over $2,000 for sure. Without monitors. Without monitors, yeah. I'm going to cost over $2,000 for sure. Without monitors.

Without monitors, yeah. I'm going to get a $1,200 monitor. That monitor's badass. Pay for something that's going to be pretty fucking... At least for me, I spend probably 10 hours a day on the PC at least. So putting that investment into that... Have you built all of your own rigs in the last... I've never, first time.

Never? Okay, I've built my last two and I'm fucking a noob at this shit. And I tend to get a lot of help from friends, and I have some tech-savvy friends who put a lot of help into this with me. But I've been extremely pleased with the performance of my PCs the last couple times I've built them. Building? Yeah. Building PCs is a hobby, and I often get in this weird, like,

I follow it casually, but they're like, yes, what do you have a master's in engineering with a focus in comp sci what is the best RAM for me to buy right I'm like well shit we didn't cover like 2016 RAM modules I helped my best you know sometimes I can identify bottlenecks and stuff like that but like putting a build together I would hit the the people who have a passion for it yeah yeah I'm looking at a lot of bills that other people have done I obviously know like the core of the thing right and I know I want to build this around the 1080 graphics card and I don't want to I want to get an i7

processor I don't want i5 so I know a few things and you know who cares about the power supply that that's immaterial so really it's a question of which motherboard I'm going to go with, and the reason for which motherboard depends on which version of the graphics card I get because if I get some water-cooled version, then I might need a specific motherboard that will go along with it, or maybe I decide I want to SLI this thing. Maybe I want two 1080s running. I'm going to need a specific board that's capable of doing that.

And then on the other end is the RAM. I don't want something absurd like I might do 16 gigs of RAM. I think that's plenty. I might do 32. I might do 32 gigs of RAM. 64 is too much. 64 is way too much. And the price,

it's not that expensive for like mid-tier RAM. And it seems from what I've read that when you buy the really expensive RAM, you're getting a very negligible improvement and some things that don't really even matter that much. So it seems like a big waste of money getting that RAM that's reading, writing at like 4,000 megahertz or some crazy shit. Or four megahertz. There are people out there who will disagree with your power supply choice. I'll tell you why. One, dual

1080p takes a lot of power. It doesn't. They're super power efficient. Two of those uses less power than one of the Titans, I think. Like, Chiz's build with one of them, I looked at his build and I was like, why you got that really big

power supply? Your draw is only 440 watts. Each? Well, he only had one. His build with one, his power draw is 440. They're very efficient. I mean, I know that I need to pick a power supply that's adequate for my setup, but I think an 850 is going to be fine for that.

I'll get 1,000 if I do something silly. A 50 might be good, but I wouldn't consider that a small one. I think mine might be 750, and I don't SLI. Fair enough. Oh, shit. And then there's different ratings of this thing. I wish I could find the power requirements quickly. But there's different ratings too, right?

Like if you get a bronze one or like the platinum one. Oh, the cards? Or the power supply? This is the power supply, right? So I know Chiz, for example, blew out. Like some way damaged his motherboard and had to replace it about a year ago. And most people would say that the power supply didn't feed the motherboard good power. blew out like some way damaged his motherboard and had to replace it about a year ago and most people would say that the power supply didn't feed the motherboard good power like that's it's a

typical thing that you would blame that problem on so like there'll be someone out there that says oh you went low budget on the power supply i would have done that with you know it's twelve hundred dollars worth of graphics cards in it you, spend the extra $80 on a better one. But you do that to every component, and suddenly, like, you've spent a lot. Yeah. I don't think I could come up with any build that would be mock-proof.

Someone out there will second-guess something. Yeah, yeah. I don't mind them saying, like, oh, that power supply isn't exactly ideal. It's not perfect. It could be like... I don't mind that. But what I don't want them saying, like, oh, that power supply isn't exactly ideal. It's not perfect. It could be like that. I don't mind that. But what I don't want is someone to say, well, you can't even utilize this thing that you've invested in.

Like, this thing here is 8-pin, and you're running 16. Like, you're getting no improvement for those $300 you wasted that you could have put into a second solid- driver or a faster read writing solid state drive it looks like that one that and that's the other thing I'm going to put that I don't know exactly it's 400 maybe a 480 gig SSD whatever she is linking me to that has the really fight fast read write speed I'm not going to do the terabyte or two terabyte SSD that um the one that plugs into the pci slot that yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna do that uh solid state solid state now yeah yeah that's so great that's the totally the way to go and you do have solid state now yeah i do too they weren't as big when i built my machine so i think my i don't know

how big mine is maybe 50 gigs it's very. I just run a few games off of it. This is an iBuyPower machine. Have you done watercooled before? No, I haven't. See, that's the other thing I'm waiting on is because... Is it MSI Seahawk? There's a watercooled version of the GTX 1080 that's coming out. It itself is watercooled, and it's's one solid unit. I'm really attracted to the idea of that. Yeah, I'm using a self-contained water cooled thing for my CPU right now, but I haven't checked with the GPU at all for the water cooled stuff. I've actually been really impressed

with it. It's been working fantastic. I think that's something that I'll take a look at once I see the numbers that are coming out and see what kind of cooling I need need because right now I don't think I can definitively say what kind of cooling I'm going to need before I narrow down a few more things when I built mine the self-contained stuff was kind of newish and this is in when did I build my maybe 2013 something like that and um I really didn't want to maintain it like I would like to just set it and forget it and I really didn't want to maintain it. I would like to just set it and forget it and I thought air-cooled would give me that.

But I think history has proven that not the home-built water-cooled but the self-contained stuff is maintenance-free. Yeah, I've touched it pretty much. The radiator, besides blowing it off very so often because it collects dust pretty solid on the top, I don't much do anything with it, and it's been a huge difference for my CPU

coolant stuff. I was running into heat issues with some of the newer games. XCOM 2 in particular was really poorly optimized. Which cooling unit do you have? I could find you a link at some point if you want. Something 110, right? Yeah, it's a Corsair something. Actually, it's running software on me right now. So I could dig that up. Yeah, the Corsair H110. Yeah, yeah, it's a Corsair something. Yeah, actually it's running software on me right now.

So I could dig that up. Yeah, the Corsair something. Yeah, but I've really enjoyed it. So what I... And I need to see the benchmarks for these third-party cards to see how much of a boost we're going to get. Because here's what I want to achieve, right? I want to play the current-gen games

and, of course, the next generation of games next year and shit like that in 1440p at high frame rates, at at least 60, and if I'm getting a 144hz monitor, which I am, it'd be nice to be able to play that shit at 100 frames and just fucking experience the beauty that that is on this curved 1440p monitor

in the dark with my headset on. I think that'll be great. I want to be able to achieve that. I don't think I can do that with just one of these 1080s though. Especially not one Founders Edition. I need to see the benchmarks for the third party card and then I'm going to make a decision whether it's one or two.

It's a pretty substantial price difference, right? If I go the other way it's like another grand to SLI the thing. If you pay as much as you want for a computer game system, I don't think you could ever find the top end. You'd be like, oh spent 10 000 you could spend 10 10 12 000 easy whatever the hell it happens i want to say this if kyle wants your input he'll ask you do not fucking give me messages to give kyle that's not my job you dicks took me like two seconds to realize you were talking to chat and not me yeah yeah no no

no i'm sorry you're like whoa i'm sorry i talked to kyle and i think i'm irrational about this like there's something wrong between my ears but i take it as an insult when people are like you know what merker doesn't want to talk to me so i'm gonna tell what do you hear my new messenger boy i'm gonna have you send my But I take it as an insult when people are like, you know what? Mirka doesn't want to talk to me. So I'm going to tell Woody, you're my new messenger boy. I'm going to have you send my messages to that fucking package. They sent me to send to Mirka is still sitting on my table. And it's like fucking up the aesthetic of my Game of Thrones room. I'm going to throw it in the fucking fire because you can suck my dick with this.

Woody, Taylor hasn't set up a P.O. box. Taylor has hidden his address. Taylor hasn't set up a P.O. box. Taylor has hidden his address. Taylor doesn't want messages from me. So I'm sending them to you, and I'm having you run out to the fucking post office to me because you're my messenger boy. And buy some stamps for me, by the way, because I didn't, like, weigh it or anything. Like, I can't just throw stamps on this and mail it. It's a box, and it doesn't fit in the mailbox or anything.

I have to take this to the post office get it weighed and send it to taylor no fucking no i never signed up for this don't do it stop stop well if you do have some pc builds you'd like to recommend to me here's what i want to achieve all right exact opposite don't send them to woody of course you can you can send them to me on steam or uh email them to me or something like that you'll figure out a way if you're really serious about putting a build together for me but my first thing is do i need to go sli if i want 1440p and high frame rates i think i do that you don't have normal 1440p what is it like 3560 by 1440p. What is it, like 3560 by 1440? Yes. He has an ultra-wide 1440. The curved G-Sync

monitor from Samsung, I think, maybe, but I'm not positive. So I want a game on that thing, and with good Witcher on that thing, and fucking max it the settings out, and maybe even monitor a little, and be able to play that at, you know, 60, 80

frames, something like that. That would be spectacular. I think that requires two cards. Most of you are probably going to agree with me there. My next question, if you're putting this build together for me, and the next thing we need to go through is third party cards because I don't want a Founder's Edition. They're more

expensive and not as capable. From the cooling issues to the way they take in power, apparently there's some issues with them. I don't know. I don't know anything about this shit. I hate it. But the Seahawk card seems to be water-cooled. There's also a lot of overclocking options. I've seen multiple options or

proposed options from different third-party companies. What I want is this. I want one that's overclocked a little. I don't want so much that I'm going to burn out $1,500 worth of graphics cards and start a fire in my basement or something crazy because we should have been

cooling this thing with NO2 or nitrogen or whatever. I'd like to overclock them a little. I don't want to spend an insane amount of money. This is one of those $12,000 builds, but it's going to have to be between $2,000 and $4,000, unfortunately. Somewhere in there.

32 gigs of RAM, it seems Mr. Gamertag thinks is the way to go. It's easy to overspend on the motherboard, so just keep in mind the things that are important to me, like water cooling, probably SLI-ing these 1080s. I don't think I'm missing... I don't know much about CPUs,

but I want the good one, so let's just stick with that. That's good. Yeah, I think... And I started to talk about how... You have water cooler already, right? With the... Whatever it is upstairs?

You're right. The leaking toilet. Leaking toilet. It's already water cooled. If that would be compatible with that, it would be perfect. I was starting to talk about the whole messenger thing I think I'm weird like I interpret it as

a sign of disrespect almost slight yeah like you know I don't know like whoever they want to talk to is some like elevated guy so they're just employing me and I feel like just because I'm accessible yeah it doesn't mean I run

your errands for you. Well, if you have something you want to get to Taylor and you're having trouble doing it, just send it to me. I'll send it right on to him, and we won't have this issue. He's so lying to you. We ship packages here all day. I got two people who – Oh, maybe he's not.

I go to the post office daily. I know their names. I mail lots of packages. I don't know where my post office is. It's so close to my house, I could literally shoot it from where I'm sitting right now if I focused hard enough, I think. I moved here a year ago.

I went to a post office once. I couldn't find it again. And I'm not sure it was the closest one. Wait, are you in a new place, Woody? Is this weird? A year ago, yeah. Yeah, Woody bought a gigantic mansion and it's got skyped uh four hours it's yeah yeah why does it do that that's just one of those even four years

old that's crazy um yeah it is oh well the call is the show's yeah 358 so um so yeah we've been playing a bunch of Company of Heroes. That's been our obsession of late. For a while, it was the Age of Mythology game, which is a more fun and silly version of Age of Empires. You guys have me kind of interested in the Company of Heroes stuff. I haven't, I love the, if that knows stuff. All right, all right, I want the sales pitch.

First of all, historical accuracy. It's very big in this game. When you zoom in, when you scroll all the way in, the character models, they're called models, look incredibly detailed. You can see they've got mustaches. You can look at their infields and see the X's

on them. You can see the sights on the front. If you zoom in on a church, you can see the stained glass, and it's intricate stained glass that's been done. What's X on an Enfield? What is that about? I don't know. It's just lettering and stuff on there.

Yeah, stuff like that. You can see, like, inscriptions on the rifles and stuff. It's very, very detailed. The graphics are excellent if you have the PC to run it. But historical accuracy is great because for the Soviets, for example, they have the conscripts. Those are their first infantry unit. And just like the Soviet conscript, they've been conscripted into duty kind of come on you let's let's go you're going to battle and so

there's six of them because they were plenty the soviets were plentiful but poorly trained and there are six of them but they're not very good at their job the brits on the other hand there's only four of them when they're in cover they have lots of bonuses because the because the brits were really good at holding on the territory they had these smaller professional gentlemanly well-trained squads of fewer men um things like the the heavy machine guns everyone makes their own machine gun and you know the machine guns are like the mg-42 mg-43 um the maxim the vickers the uh the the m2 uh the 1919 all of these are machine guns and they vary from faction to faction. Just to pause for just a quick second,

when you said all those guns, did you know what, do you have like a visual image of each of those as you say that? A rough one. And they're the things that they do, I guess. I've shot most of those. I've shot, yeah, I've shot all those actually. I've never shot a Vickers. But they have

wider field of fire and longer range depending on what they would actually have and while staying true to history they try to balance everything out the brits seem pretty op to me i like to play the brits um they're they're very very good are you laddering or just playing with friends or playing with friends and fans um and a lot of ai a lot of ai um so back and forth the ai is challenging and and would i have a chance to kill chis oh yeah yeah chis is chis is no match um me and taylor have actually been playing this game a ton he chis hasn't been into it he got into starcraft a bit uh so chis is would would be no match fairly quickly if you put a

little effort into this it's all about it's really combat based and it's learning to keep units alive so you can vet them up because a 3 star unit is just head and shoulders better than a 2 star unit and down and down they just do everything better and keeping units

alive means retreating them and replenishing their numbers I was so close to buying that game when it came out I just don't tend to love and keeping units alive means retreating them and replenishing their numbers. I was so close to buying that game when it came out. I just don't tend to love World War II games in general. There's a lot of micro. I think one of the reasons you do well in Civ is you understand a very complicated game and, I don't know, just make the right decisions.

In Company of Heroes, I'm not an expert, but I feel like it's a less complicated game with very important micro. You've got to make the right moves well. There's definitely some micro. I started in some RTS, like Warcraft 3 and Dawn of War 1 were some of the first games I got really involved

with competitively. Kyle, do you agree with what I said? There's not nearly as much micro as there is in, say, StarCraft, but there is some micro. You don't even need hotkeys to play this game. You can play this game with no hotkeys and with the arrows. StarCraft would be too much micro for me. I fucking hated

StarCraft. I loved Warcraft 3, but I hated StarCraft 2. Yeah, I was looking at that. I didn't think I would enjoy that. It's too much. It's too busy. This is a good blend. It's still real-time strategy, but there's a lot of ways you can automate what your team does. Oh, man, I'm very tempted now. It's very good. It's a lot of fun.

And the tank battles are... You can come out... A bad player will have a really expensive, poorly maneuvering tank, and you'll come out with some light vehicle and literally do circles around him faster than he can rotate his turret, and just hammer. You'll shoot him 13 times before you get the kill,

but meanwhile, he's just... Poor players get shit on. Great players shit on people. I can attest to that. You get what you deserve in this game it's not one of this game and and in civ like a bad player might not know they're getting shit on for like four hours you could be playing for hours like payoffs this sooner they'll know they get shit on in the first 20 minutes look and then all of a sudden out of the fog of war comes like a

super advanced army that's much bigger than anything you could even muster and two tiers ahead and you're just like, well, I am just shit at this. That happens in this game a bit. Because of the way the resources are built around the map's geography, when I take

extra resources, you lose those resources, so it's doubly effective. I'm taking money away from you and putting it in those resources, so it's doubly effective. I'm taking money away from you and putting it in my pocket, so now you don't get to build those Volksgrenadiers, and I get to build my Tommies. Oftentimes, even though we play for points

and flags mostly, it becomes a game of embarrassment or annihilation when I end up in the enemy's base, just waiting at their spawn point, because you just can with your tanks, waiting on their guys to walk into the the map and just blowing them up it's um it's very rewarding i've enjoyed it a lot and i feel like we put a lot of time into those games and i know you do as well but um i think that like 15 good hours of practice got me good enough to beat the game on like the ai on like standard like easily and

after i think i got maybe 30 hours in the game now and we don't lose the most important question about this how is the multiplayer is it still vibrant still a lot of people playing it yeah there's a there's a pretty big modding scene too um there's there's lots of dlc that you got to pay for like maps and stuff and um there's there's you can choose your commander that's the commander of your guys and with the commander comes a myriad of specializations that apply to your race and uh more tools for you to use so every game is very different because they're doing the same thing so you you might be the soviets this time and the germans and they're playing as the germans and you might have done that three times before but it'll never be exactly the same because of the iteration of the soviets Soviets and the Germans that you're bringing to the table.

Gotcha. Filthy. So you play Civ now online a lot. And you're very good at it. And people don't know he's in the argument for best in the world. And when you start Company of Heroes, you won't be that good. Will you hide your learning process or stream it? I stream it. or stream it i stream

it you stream it yep it's a little bit slower to learn i probably will play some that i'm not playing online directly for example if i finish a day of streaming and i take a couple hours break and i want a game in the evening i probably won't stream it again but i might go play it again depends how interested i get in the games i like i mean the appeal of gaming to me is the multiplayer experience and i like to be good at that but you're not afraid to show you when you suck? No, I suck just like everyone else sucks. I think it's part of the streaming process, right? Like, sometimes I'm not really good at

the game and a lot of people won't tune in to me until I'm much better at a game, but when I get there... They have tournaments and ladders and all that stuff and they just actually updated the game with a new currency system that's a bit... I don't want to describe it incorrectly, but it's a bit like Counter-Strike with the reward system.

And every time you win a game, you get currency, and you spend that currency to buy things like skins, which are meaningless unless... Although sometimes it's actual... Camouflage is camouflage, you know, so you can find that. You're like, oh, yeah, actually, this is a perfect camo for this map. This will make my light vehicle a little bit less distinguishable in the bushes. But most of the time.

It's like in fucking like World of Warcraft or something, like the short races. I always thought they were overpowered as shit because you can't see them over other things. Yeah. Okay, I got you. It's not supposed to be an impact, but it has one. Yeah. But I run like, my armor sometimes is pink or I'll have like all kinds of silly armors and stuff. But the things that you do win that are meaningful are the

commander cards, which you otherwise have to pay for with real money. Those are nice because those modify... Like I said, you bring a different crew to the table. If you've got a good commander, then one of his abilities is a certain kind of artillery strike or he brings a special tank to the battle that no one else

can bring. Those are impactful. Players who have played a lot already have them in place. And there's a few little things like that that alter the game. But in the end, a guy could play vanilla against a guy with all those bonuses and, like, add it on things and still beat him because it really does come down to that rock, paper, scissors game versus machine guns, infantry, and mortars, or those versus each other, because machine guns dominate infantry, mortars dominate machine guns,

and anybody that sees a mortar in the open dominates it, because there's a bunch of guys with pistols or something and a mortar to you. Fun game, though. Really rewarding. Every time when I beat people, I feel like I earned the victory and that I out-thought them, because the maps are often symmetrical.

So I just kind of outplayed you. That's how I won. So that's fun. There's something extremely fun about multiplayer that starts with an even basis and playing against another player. I really like that. Yeah. Yeah, I do too. Like stock car racing or something like that.

There's not a whole ton of specialization. And then I really like the recreation aspect of it. Like we've got got a d-day map we played it on d-day it was fun uh... we've got uh... you know a lot of the maps are just complete recreations of german towns uh... french towns stuff like that better uh... historically correct and you to play out a little war uh... battle from a war it's some time gone by i enjoy that on a different topic maybe the last one i don't know if we go far of it looks like bernie sanders and joe biden have both endorsed hillary clinton um bernie sanders

is still running for some reason like he's gonna hang in there i don't know why. Because he wants to influence her ticket. He wants to influence at the convention. He wants to, what am I looking for? The DNC, the ticket that they run on. The platform. Yeah, the platform. He wants to be very influential in forming that platform. I think he's been withholding that for some time.

And I think he's still staying in the race as sort of a way of exerting his influence in that regard. I wouldn't deny it. But anyway, so he's still staying in the race. In my head, he was like these two things. One, there's a ton of people who donated who maybe don't want to see him drop out before he absolutely, absolutely has to. He just gets loses.

And two, maybe self-serving like you don't know you know i want to be the guy in second and when this shit goes down right he spent 22 per vote crazy so maybe um seven you know maybe hillary has like this email thing turns into something and if he drops drops out, why not pick Joe Biden? Whereas if he's still in it, he's obviously the next guy. I don't know. I made that up. But there's a thought. No, that's the thing too.

Anyways, the Democratic Party is unified a little bit. Well, good for them. Yeah. That's just, I feel like that's just people watching out for their own, right? In the sense that they have to do it sooner or later. There's going to be one candidate versus one candidate. Obama doesn't like Hillary that much more than he likes Trump. And he hates Trump.

He has to hate him. He has to despise him, right? Well, the whole birther thing. Well, Hillary started that. Again. But Trump hammered it into the ground. I've heard it before, but I'm not 100% sure that it's true. Are you 100% sure? Or is your source like the Donald subreddit?

It was actually the politics subreddit, but it was a discussion about all the political figures at large. So who knows? But I like to say it. I've heard it before. And I like the birther argument because it's funny. I like that it's i'm looking it up on

like you're not even legally able to be a president you know that's what he's saying when you know the thing that it comes down to is just like ted cruz right who was born in canada his mother was an american citizen so it doesn't matter and at this point what's who cares he just was a president so here's what happened he's like you can't be president you weren't born here he's like i just done it done it for eight years did it when did ben carson run ben carson that was this year sleepy he's a sleepy doctor yeah i don't know i'm a crazy neurosurgeon guy this article doesn't make any sense to me they let's see trump fails to correct him or face around our press questions they asked ben carson if it would be okay to have a muslim president and he said i absolutely

would not agree with that hillary tweets can a muslim be president in a word yes now let's move on i think what her motive there was to be like i'm not an islamophobe and trump responded that by saying just remember the birther movement was started by hillary and that's his evidence oh oh that's oh oh i see what you're saying oh wait oh okay i see what you're saying so he just sort of you know i don't know that sounds like propaganda cooked up by the conference you sure that's not some some bernie sanders kammy propaganda you're laying on us here i don't need to talk to milo yiannopoulos he'd know the truth yeah right um he'd get to the bottom of this well i i either way i you know trump really hammered it into the ground it was something that that i thought was funny because like

it was just such a silly way to go after the guy. He's just like, you're not. Where were you born? Like Nigeria? Where did he say Kenya? That was it, right? They asked Clinton about it and she says, that is no. That is so ludicrous. You know, honestly, I just believe that first of all, it's totally untrue.

And secondly, you know, the president and I would have never had a confrontation like that. I know I've been blamed for nearly everything, but this is a new one to me. That's her stance on her story for the first time ever i believe she said there so there's a chance yeah it seems like she didn't really start the birther movement you see that picture over the other day in the sunlight no nothing well can come out of this so go on so what was this natural place for her to be the sunlight and she just didn't look good that's all that's me every spring so dehydrated she looked like parchment paper um i hate her so much i just really do i wish something i really dislike her i just want all the i'll never get this just want all the... I'll never get this. I want all the political arguments to be really fact-based.

That's what I wish that it was. Wouldn't that be nice? What if they were like, we have the time to actually do a fact-based argument because it turns out this fucking debate format of like, you know, one minute or three minutes where the fuck it is really doesn't give you any time

to actually talk about an argument whatsoever. So, I don't know. We're not exactly in a system that rewards the fact-based arguments you know we get these emotional little pulls and that's about that's about it there's a good quote from one of the republican candidates this year they they were like you know explain to us how what you would do to to reshape the economy and our presence in the in the world at large you 45 seconds. He's like, 45 seconds? What are you talking about?

I can't talk about any of that in 45 seconds. I can't even tell you how angry I am about your question in 45 seconds. It's ridiculous. It's like hours sitting here talking about one small piece of why Social Security is going to go insolvent and why it doesn't work and why it was a bad idea to begin with. We could spend an hour on that. We could bring people up to testify, economics experts, actuaries, people who counted the beans. We could bring the beans! But they spend, it's a 30 second

sound bite to them. It's like, like absolutely not i stand behind senior citizens right up until we're completely broke you have to verify or justify facts or cite anything you just realize how fucking absurd that even to be put in that situation is how meaningless the response that comes out of it is it just i mean it's a show it's a dance for the voters. That's us. To be like, oh, we like this guy the most or that guy the most. It doesn't fucking matter one difference either way. I think we need buttons at home and we need to do this shit

like a reality show. We need to fucking make this... I'm not sure I'm on board with this. Woody and I both have reservations. Here's the kicker. You can't get one of these buzzers if you're just anybody. It's like the Nielsen system, the Nielsen rating system. They put one of those boxes in your house,

and the ratings are based off what those Nielsen families are up to. We'll have some Nielsen families, and those are the ones who are allowed to vote. There are a lot of people out there. We see them every day. They shouldn't be voting. They shouldn't even be deciding what they're wearing. Look at them. It see them every day. They shouldn't be voting. They shouldn't even be deciding what they're wearing. Look at them. It's clear to see.

So I feel like only citizens should be able to vote. And I'd like some requirement to be a citizen. Not just born here. That's not good enough. That's not even close. Like you're an American if you're born here, but not an American citizen. That's the way I... The Starship Troopers.

That's what I'm talking about. You should have to earn it. A citizen does... I wish I could remember what Rico... Heinlein couldn't have been the first to think of that. So that's got to be somewhere else. It's got to come before Heinlein and the Starship Troopers. So do we...

Is this really the last topic we want to start with? I can feel the rabbit hole opening beneath me.'ve got a silly one i don't know so about the jews i could i could i could do so here's what happened yesterday i show up at like paramotor training right now this week i had done some sort of flying video and the guy said that he would get me a free reserve parachute like if if something goes wrong, you can talk. If I can like get him some views or whatever. And it works out great. He gets tons of views and there's all these comments.

Apparently Snowflake is going to be my pilot name. You should move away from that. Yeah, you know, I almost get a kick out of those. I think it's a racist thing that they call black people. Like they call him Snowflake. Isn't that exactly what he called the black guy in Full Metal Jacket? I'm going to call you Private Snowflake! This is totally news to me.

I've never heard Snowflake is a racial habitat. What I told him was that I was going to learn super fast because I was a unique snowflake. Like, kind of jokingly. And that's how it got pinned on me. They told you your name is Snowflake. They call you asshole after you said that. No, everyone liked it. Asshole's a little loose up there.

It's not looking good. I think actually it was past tense. I was telling him that when I got here, I thought I would be like, I would have no trouble. I could handle high winds, even though everyone else can't because I'm some kind of unique snowflake. And that was like, even the whole unique snowflake thing is a admission

that i'm not like that was the idea behind it and uh that's how it happened it certainly wasn't a nod to hating black people i took it that's how i interpreted it so anyway i send all these people and most of them say woody sent me or snowflake sent me which is why i got into that but some of them are like you know the old rapist sent me rape squad killers like like all these like pro-rape comments in there i see that a lot and we need to have a little talk let's have a talk right now okay so because i saw a post the other day on reddit and it was a man fucking a woman's belly button. Okay, it was right up there on the

front page, and I clicked it, of course, you know, for obvious reasons. Is this your personal front page? No, it got up there. Yeah, I saw it. This is everybody's front page, and so I saw the belly button fucking, and I clicked the comments because I knew

some of you guys would be there, and sure enough, there you are. You know, they were like, Carl loves belly button fucking. It clicked the comments because i knew some of you guys would be there and sure enough there you are you know they were like carl loves belly button fucking it's like 300 upvotes and uh you know somebody and somebody's like elaborate and someone explains about us and about our podcast and it was lots of upvotes lots of rape squad killers up in there but look i know that the rsk thing the rape squad killers all that is just a silly little funny thing that i said one time about our you know during a prank phone call but you gotta understand that like normal adult human beings when they hear that we are the rape squad killers they don't think that we're actually going out and raping people in a squad and then killing them or anything but they do think that we're assholes so don't make us look like assholes we're we're not the rape squad killers we we just

made a real funny prank phone call one time three years ago that's it i got there yesterday morning and the first topic he wanted to discuss was my history with raping and yeah he's just right he's like why are all these people saying the old rapist sent me the rape squad killer sent me rape squad killers rskK, et cetera. And I had to, like, stem from this prank call where we called a drugstore and we asked for a list of items where slowly it unfolded that we had planned some sort of rape murder. You know, like, hey, do you have zip ties?

Do you have nylons? I don't want to be recognized. Do you have, like, garbage bags? Plastic gloves, a big blade. Yeah, something that'll get blood out of carpet. We made a mess. What are we going to do? That sort of talk. Very suspicious.

And that's it. We just asked for a bunch of items, which on their own might be kind of innocent. But as a collection, clearly look like the lady who goes grocery shopping for Vaseline and cucumbers. It's like, what is this? So I explained that to him and he understood. But it was like, yeah. So like what Kyle said. I don't even have to explain that in a sense.

Yeah. I left without. Rape is a very, like I know in the gaming community especially, a lot of you guys like grew up maybe watching this show or us or whatever. And we all used to play video games together and shit. And like, yeah, raped them. Ah, we raped them. How many times have you raped somebody in Call of Duty?

We used to do it all the time. But rape kind of became a real dirty word that you can't just throw about anymore in this age of sensitivity and assholes everywhere. You have to call them assholes anymore. You can't even use any more of the curse words. At some point, the proctologists of America will come together and say that we can't call people assholes anymore because it makes them look bad. That's what's coming, but the assholes out there make this a problem.

So we can't say the word rape anymore in a funny, jokey kind of way because apparently it's a real bad thing that a lot of people struggle with, I guess. Yeah, so that was my yesterday morning. No more like... No, I'm not actually a rapist even though dozens of people... Yes, we do sell merchandise that says Rape Squad Killer on it.

I forgot about that. With killing tools on it. That's Taylor. Why is your flight instructor pulling you aside to talk about this? Let's see, either way, let's say you were a rapist, and you've done your time or whatever, and you're out. What the fuck is the key pulling you apart for this?

Because Woody's making videos of him paramotoring, and he had a... Yeah, and he's making a deal with this paramotoring instructor that he would send a few of his viewers to the paramotor instructor's video. Oh, you wanted no association if that was like a rapist sending you this badge. Well, the people were going there and saying hey, we came here because of Woody, we came here

because of PKA, and then they were saying we came here because of the old rapist, and Woody should get like a free parachute out of this deal. He doesn't want to be labeled a rapist over the paramotoring. Perfect. That's what, that says what happened to me, right? I didn't want to be labeled a rapist in front of – like in my dreams, my real life and my internet life rarely cross, right?

Like the people – my flight instructors not like being exposed to my YouTube fans because some of them are crazy. It's not in a bad way. Yeah. You can't say rape squad killed strangers. They don't get it. You can say it to us. Say it to us. Sure. But you can't say it to them. It's like the N-word and how black people can say it to each

other. And you know we can say it when we're alone but not when they're around. That's how this works. That's how this works. If it's me and you or a paintball. Right now is he helping Woody or not? I don't know. He might be sending tons of people there. I'm trying to help and going for laughs now yeah I don't know where this like what impact this will have helped tremendously and I

laid it out as best I could twice and now I'm just telling the people that you know when we hang out yeah you can RS a will get out our decoder rings and fucking put them together and whatever you know, but like That's not cool. Yes, so I have to teach him how to ban words on his channel Just what what he doesn't yeah He's gonna have to because what's happening now is other Paramotorists are going to that guy's channel as well and seeing people talk about Woody being a rapist and they're like whispering to their Paramotor buddies like yeah the guy with the big like green sail or whatever yours looks like is a raper.

Don't fucking tandem with him. He'll stick it in. You know? Like it or not. They're not going to fuck you anymore. Dude, what a rap I have tonight. So my favorite thing, fucking Ken Shamrock. Ken Shamrock is going up against some other fighter.

I forget who it was. And the other guy was calling Ken Shamrock is going up against some other fighter. I forget who it was. And the other guy was calling Ken Shamrock gay. They're about to fight in the UFC. Was it one of those? It wasn't Tito. It was some guy who he might have in a boxer or something, like someone who wasn't ready for him. And Ken Shamrock's best reply, he goes, you know what?

You better hope I'm not gay because if I am, there's nothing you can do about it. That was PKA episode 286. Our sponsor is Squarespace and Loot Crate.