Painkiller Already - Painkiller Already #353

Episode Date: September 28, 2017

This week on PKA, it's been a while but Hutch is back! The guys debate healthcare in the midst of the Graham-Cassidy Bill, Kyle introduces us to the Kombai Tribe as well as his new OTC testosterone and minoxidil journey and last but not least... Taylor shares a great story of some true vigilante justice!

Pin Killer already, episode 353 with our guest Hutch. Kyle? Couple of sponsors tonight, NatureBox, Casper Mattresses, and I got Beachbody, which is a brand new one. And also a quick word here from Legend of Zelda. Legend of Zelda Symphony of the Goddess World Tour is coming to a city near you with a full orchestra and over 30 years of Zelda gameplay on a giant screen. Now featuring Breath of the Wild along with all the classics. Check them out in Portland on the 23rd. For tickets and full tour schedule, go to mgplive.com, link in the description,

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the best. Only things we believe in. Do you guys have Casper mattresses? They sent me one like a month ago. They sent you one? I paid for mine. I used the PGA discount. Those great people. If I could get it for free, you guys could have got it for free for sure. Damn it.

I didn't even know that. Well, we liked them so much, we turned the free one down and slapped down the whole thing. You insisted on giving them money, yeah. It's such a good price. Why not? Yeah. You insisted on giving them money, yeah. It's such a good price.

Why not? Yeah. I legit went through like PKA is to find a Casper ad because sometimes the coupon code is like PKA. Sometimes it's painkiller. It's usually one of those two. So I had to look it up and I used it. I've literally forgotten before to use our own coupon code on things. We all get to check out and I'll be like, was there something I forgot? Fuck!

Yeah. I did Dollar Shave Club. We're customers of those and it's on both sides. One, I would like Dollar Shave Club to think that this is an effective advertising medium. Two, I would have got a discount. That's win-win. And I didn't do it. Naturebox has one of the best offers.

I bought some Naturebox stuff the other day. I got a bunch of jerky and stuff. By the time the checkout was done, it was $2. I was like, how is this even possible? I think I had a free shipping thing because I'm a member or whatever, and then I applied the code, and it took a bunch off.

It was like $2 for three bags of food. It's because of snack subsidies. Thank you, Donald. It's big snack. Big snack. Hutch, snack subsidies. Thank you, Donald. It's big snack. Big snack. Hutch, how are you doing? Today I'm a little

stressed, man. We just found out recently my cat has a genetic kidney disease. He's like... How old is your cat? We don't know, actually. He's my's cat, and then I got custody of the cat when we split up because she couldn't take care of him at the apartment that she was living in.

And then, so, like, we think he's probably, like, around 10 to 12. So he's not, like, a young cat, but he's a black cat. How long does a cat last? Like 15 years? Like, yeah, 15 to 20 years i think it's yeah longer than dollars way longer than great days that's three great days i was just reading pet stores won't sell you a black cat in the month of october because they're worried that people are going to either torture them to death or use them for uh seances and stuff oh that's awful black magic

yeah is there really that many people in the seance market like that are interesting enough Look, yeah, have you ever tried to buy eggs on Halloween same premise? Hmm, I bet they would sell me eggs on Halloween, right? They absolutely would well they ID you have to be 18 Okay, my experience like and all the times granted that I was trying to buy eggs on Halloween I was gonna to buy eggs on Halloween, I was going to throw them at something. They would ID me, and I was like, oh, yeah, I'm 28. No, no.

At the time, I was 16 or something. That's what I was thinking. I was like, they must be profiling. Yeah, they do profile. Because I remember when we were like 14 or whatever, or 13, and we wanted to TP someone's house, and there was whatever cool mom was like, I'll drive you as long as you're not drunk, or whatever, or 13, and we wanted to TP someone's house, and there was whatever cool mom was like, I'll drive you as long as you're not drunk, or whatever, you know, and you just send seven

13-year-olds into the grocery store and each one buys a six-pack of toilet paper in line. Like, oh no, they'll think we all just have to poop. Like, no. Looking back, that was so shitty. Let's not get away from Hutch, though, because we asked him how he's doing, and then we just went on a roll.

He's getting his audio back right now. Oh, okay. He lost audio again. What a bummer. I'm sorry to hear about his kitty cat. I wanted to ask about the custody thing. If that was a legal battle, or if it was a paper-rock-scissors game,

or how that went down. Because the way he put it, it sounded like when you get custody of a child yeah i wonder if it was contentious yeah it sounded that way wow oh his audio is back can you wait can you hear my audio now yes but tap your mic i'm not sure which one let's figure out which microphone it is it it's the webcam mic that it's picking up now can we do can we do better than that yeah but i don't i don't know how because like the astro just decided to stop working right there so i'm not sure why i did that there's a fucking skype come on we're in the business i know you've got nine mics laying

around there i do man, none of them work with Skype for some reason. What do you usually use? I have this headset here. It's like an Audio-Technica headset mic. And it's just... So we lost your audio, Hutch.

Maybe you changed something. I don't know. Oh, it might be that one. I think that's better. That is so much better. 10,000 times better. Yeah, the webcam. I love Woody's unapologetic audio corrections sometimes where someone will be like,

hey, I'm just using my phone turned sideways. Is that cool? And Woody's always the one who's like, no, it's not cool. Absolutely not. You know why Woody does that? Because Woody is the one who has to bear the brunt if something's off. He's the one getting 500 comments. Woody, you're a piece of shit.

Yeah, it's so true. What people don't understand is I can hear everybody's audio but my own. So when my audio is bad, that's the one that I don't know. Everything else I can address during's audio but my own. So when my audio is bad, that's the one that I don't know. Everything else I can address during the show but my own. I test it before the show. And I actually got compliments on last week, so I just didn't touch anything. But yeah, it's very hard to get my audio perfect.

Everybody else's I can fuss about. Well, normally I'd have an even better mic than this one. The Astros sound okay, but not great. But I just kind of have to do that for Skype for whatever reason. It'll work. So hey, tell us... With that webcam mic, this sounds like heaven. Yeah, right? That's all you needed.

I do that with my air conditioner in the car. Sometimes I'm like, this sounds terrible. Let's put it on max for like 60 seconds and then I'll like it. Dude, cat custody. Is this like a contentious type thing? Did you guys bring out the lawyers and go to the mattresses? No, nothing like that.

She asked me if I would take care of them and I said yes. Nice. I wish it happened more in child custody. I wish there was one parent that was like, I wasn't on board with this. Don't tell little Marky. When you think about it, you've thought of...

I'd much rather be the kid that both parents are fighting over feverishly, like, you're not taking my son away from me or whatever, than the opposite, which is super sad where it's just two parents who are like i don't want him i'm not with them for that long like that's just heartbreaking so no nothing nothing like that we both want i mean i i love this cat so i don't have a problem taking care of she would she would be taking care of it but she just the apartment that she was living in

didn't let her have it so i was happy to happy to take care of him and then esme my girlfriend my girlfriend now, she takes way better care of him than I do. She's on top of the pets all the time. How many cats do you have? I have two cats and a dog. Two cats and a little chihuahua. They get along. I don't have enough room for it right now. You live in an apartment?

Yeah. I don't have a yard big enough to run them around in or anything and i feel like because i if i want when i get a dog woody's kind of converted me to the big dog side like i never thought i'd want that but i want like a big short hair dog like a great dane or uh something like that they seem like good animals even dealing with the big shits. And that is honestly my number one concern. Great names for such huge animals, they don't need as much exercise as a border collie, which will go neurotic if you just leave it inside. It'll just be circling the coffee table all day,

losing its mind. Or huskies. Huskies, man, they have a lot of energy. I worry that huskies wouldn't do well in this climate. I'm in North Carolina, most people know. I feel like it might be a form of animal abuse to put them in a place where it can hit 95 from April to October. Yeah, that's not what they're made for. I like the little dogs, man. I like the tripping hazard kind of dogs.

Chihuahuas scare me because my sister-in-law had a Chihuahua. When we were kids, 13 or 14, we didn't do anything to it. We were inside and they just said, oh no, little Pepper's eyeball just popped out. And the dog's walking in with its eyeball hanging out of a socket by the connecting string, whatever that shit is. And we are all just screaming. And my brother-in-law was like, oh, no worries, no worries. Boop! And he just pops the eyeball back in.-law was like, no worries, no worries. He just pops the eyeball back in.

It was the freakiest shit I'd ever seen. They were like, yeah, that's a thing with chihuahuas, man. Sometimes, just pop right out. I was like, well, don't get a chihuahua then. I don't know, Kyle. You got competent at fixing that Samsung washing machine of yours. Why can't you learn a little homemade chihuahua surgery? Is that an actual common thing for chihuahuas, that their eye will just pop out?

It can't be that common or it wouldn't have stuck around. I've yet to run into that problem. I've had a couple chihuahuas, and I've never had their eyeball pop out. They're super territorial. The thing with chihuahuas is that they love their owners, and they hate most everybody else usually. Let me ask you this. Is it possible, because this happens with small dog owners sometimes, that small dog owners as a culture are just more forgiving of bad behavior?

Because I'll tell you, if my Great Danes show an ounce of aggression, that shit gets stamped out. That's dangerous. That's not okay. I've never considered that before. That does make sense, though. Like, you've got to have a tight leash if you have a you know Rottweiler as a little B. Sean if it acts up and barks in public loudly you're like hey settle down

But we had aggressive gate Dane Kyle met it thing warm muzzle for like all four days. You know thank God Yeah, God or Kyle wouldn't be here Monster it was a monster. He was just, the dog, how much did he weigh? 120 pounds? Big fucking dog. At least 120 pounds. And dog talk, that's enormous. It was Cerberus, a beast from fucking mythology out to hell.

And it's just looking at me like, not like, hey, don't mess with anybody, bro, or there could be trouble in here. He was looking at me like let me let me go Let me go get him. Come on boss. Let me go kill him right here. I'll kill him for you Hector just got a great day in two. Okay. He's got I think he's got four little dogs And then he's got one great day. I think he's got four chihuahuas and then a Giant dog I've always thought it'd be fun to get matching dogs like like here's my Doberman pincher And here's my is it a Dalton the And here's my, is it a Dalshand? Mini Pinscher

My dad has that Here's my dog and here's my dog's dog My dad has the full sized Pinscher It's named Chopper And he comes up to like above my waist His head does, he's this enormous thing His whole head is like this big Like I don't know, watermelon big it seems like

And then he's got the Min Pin as he calls it and it's you know you hold it in your hand and and you know pins are fucking vicious though they are vicious like uh i had a buddy that i was growing up with that had a min pin and you could not get close to it without him like really biting india yeah every every time i've got a belgian malinois which is a attack dog that looks like a german shepherd it's it's like whenever we were buying him i was like what's the difference between this and a german shepherd he's like german shepherds like arnold schwarzenegger if he whips your ass it's just a real pounding the uh belgian mal he's like bruce lee he's gonna hit you a lot but he's still gonna whip your ass and i was like oh great do you guys see about the the new law in

california that they're they're they might, well, the California legislature just passed it, but they banned the sale of cats, dogs, and bunnies that were raised in. Puppy mills. What do you call them? Puppy mills, yeah. You can still get them from, you can still go directly to a breeder and buy from a breeder but but pet stores can't purchase dogs bunnies or cats if they were uh raised in a puppy mill good so are they going

to be like selling all those current puppy mill puppies out of state or they just i don't know they're hoping to put puppy mills out of business they're gonna kill so many here's what's gonna happen it's a little fucked but the current cycle of puppy mill puppies, I guarantee they're killing all those puppies, right? They're killing them all. It's like my friend when he had that herd of antelope that suddenly became protected, and so he could no longer afford to keep them

on his ranch, because if a hunter accidentally shoots the protected one, it's hundreds of thousands of finds, and they get shut down. So he's like, oh, well, we'll just slaughter them all. And that's what happened. So elk meat for a long time and let them rot i'm sure yeah i bet they're killing all those puppy mill puppies what uh what is i mean is puppy mill i guess when does it go from uh like breeder to puppy mill like how well how big is a puppy mill operation i don't even know i was curious about that too like i'm sure the law must define what's a puppy mill and what's a look this earnest breed hutch i

had a question for you yeah yeah yeah you took a break from all of social media i don't know two years ago right and uh times yeah at the time i thought those breaks were crazy um now i think that they were clever like that's an important thing how are you feeling about them like do you do you regret them do you think about what would have happened to your like social media career if like i'm sure you in your head you've thought about each trajectory and yeah it might have differed. What do you think? I think it really depends on what you want out of being, whatever the word is, influencer or social media person or YouTuber. If you want a lot of fame and notoriety, then taking a six-month break is probably not the best idea.

But if your goals are a little bit more... I don't want that. I don't want that kind of life anyways. And so to me, when I look back at taking those breaks, like, I couldn't not take them at the time because I wasn't, I was not capable of being entertaining or being any kind of an interesting presence because I just had some stuff I had to work out. And so I don't regret it at all. Looking back on that, I think it was a necessity. And now I'm a little bit more equipped. Now I know the warning signs.

If I'm feeling burnt out, then I give myself a day or two. I'm on a run right now where I've streamed every day for two weeks because I have the energy to do it. But I can kind of feel it today where I'm like, all right, I'm starting to get maybe a little irritable. So yeah, and I'm going on a trip to Pennsylvania this weekend to go visit family. So it's a nice opportunity to get a break to get away from it all. But I'll tell you what, man, Twitter gets me in more trouble than YouTube or Twitch for sure. Like Twitter makes me more upset than any of those other two platforms combined.

Really? So I'm still figuring out how to set limitations on myself to make sure I don't get into too negative of headspace because there's a lot of, in this climate, there's a lot of hate. You know what I mean? Like a lot of vitriol. You can't say anything that people feel strongly about without attracting a really you know ugly side of the internet you know something some people are very

reasonable you can have reasonable conversations albeit heated sometimes and then other people they're just there when you're on sites like Twitter all the time it's easy to get lost in conversations and forget that that's not the world this is twitter and you just think you start to think like oh my god the whole world's topsy turvy and it's all fucked and it's like yeah now you just kind of you get tunnel vision into it but i gotta go i got a girlfriend too so it's like a lot of the times i'll be spending like two hours sometimes three hours four hours having the same conversation with people and then i'll look over you know several hours later and realize oh

fuck i could have i could have been spending time with my girlfriend and like making sure that connection's nice and because like that connection keeps me sane too i need that in my life as well too otherwise i feel isolated and but you are still you know you're tending to your relationship with like cuck master 107r i have I have the word cuck muted on Twitter, so I don't ever see that. I mean, like as soon as, the day that they launched the ability to mute words on Twitter,

that was the first word. I don't have anything muted on Twitter. YouTube comments I do. I think it's the only word I have muted. I've got a bunch of, a lot of the mutes on my YouTube comments are like personal information, you know, like the number in my old address and stuff.

People used to post my home address all the time. I hate that, man. Social security numbers, stuff like that. I hate seeing that stuff. That stuff gives me nightmares, you know? There's like no privacy. YouTube comments, every time I say any like hint that I might have thick skin, it comes back to bite me.

But YouTube comments I'm usually good at overlooking um the ones that get me are the Reddit comments and I was thinking about why that is I have this notion that Reddit is like my home field right like these are the people that are supposed to be on my side and uh the truth is I think if I would look at it objectively like two-thirds of them are. But those, of course, are not the ones I look at. I only pay attention to the one-third. I'd say more than two-thirds.

It depends on – it goes in waves, right? Sometimes – like lately, it's been very positive. Like I've been interacting and it's almost all great. And then when I look at the negative ones, it will be like four accounts all one day old. And I'm like, I bet that's the same guy it's the same guys who like are nice to your face they're like yeah i'll say this because i have to but let me just log into cuckmaster107r account and show them what's for yeah you make a you make a good point though because because i think it is important to make time to have those positive

interactions to like say like okay for the next two to four hours i'm not going to respond to anything except for just kind of benign comments or questions or positive feedback you know if you make if you make time to have good interactions with people where you're talking about things that you like you know like movies tv video games or whatever just you you kind of have to i kind of of have to do that as like a practice these days because there's just so much stuff. Like you turn on the news, it's like impossible not to be concerned.

I think if you're just reasonably informed, you have to make the time to make sure that you're- Concerned, entertained, you know, it's a mixed bag. There's some good shit out there to watch. Like there's a lot going on. There's been boring times in our lives. And then some people would say those were happy easy times but i kind of enjoy man there's so today i look i looked on the news and just you know my news aggregate right my mixture of cnn and msnbc and fox news plus like reddit news uh mixing and i see like south africa a cannibal was killed while eating

a woman uh like like that he just had murdered and then uh then i see like acid attacks in france and uh to american women right dude the acid attack thing terrorist attack more scary than anything yeah i don't know i think the kind of person it takes to throw acid on another person like that's That's unbelievable. I'm desensitized to murders. That happened in England, right? In London? France.

Was it in France? Almost 1,000% sure, yeah. I think the authorities over there came out and said that he legit, like the person that threw the acid, legit had some serious mental psychological issues. No shit. Really? I thought he was a street shooter. serious mental psychological shit really hey I suppose it's gonna come off

prejudice it was the acid thrower Muslim by chance I don't know it is a something cultural it's a like it disgruntled subway worker little states you know it's feeding some stereotypes but if you told me that a group of people burned a cross in a man's yard I'd be like oh those fucking white assholes I'd know

I'd know who did it it was whites but if you threw acid I usually gravitate toward a different group of individuals but that's neither here nor there they threw acid in a woman's face regardless of who the fuck it was it's not like they targeted her yeah that's why I heard that there were four victims but I heard two were American They threw acid in a woman's face, regardless of who the fuck it was. It's not like they targeted her. Four women's faces, didn't they? Yeah, that's why I heard that there were four victims, but I heard two were American.

You know, it's just like that. And of course, the continuous hurricanes that like Puerto Rico is getting shat on right now. And then like earthquakes in Mexico, like big, legit earthquakes. I saw them like pulling children out of a crushed school today. They're still pulling them out right now. Yeah, I think over 300 people confirmed dead at this point. It's nuts. So San Francisco had a terrible one in like 89, 84 or something,

maybe Chit or Hutch knows. I was there for that. I felt it. Now, my understanding is that prompted a major change in building codes and that we would be better off today if the same thing happened again I wonder if Mexico City can do that, too I think Mexico City I think Mexico City already had stricter building codes in the United States like I looked into it Huh, maybe maybe

Not a time to get new buildings, right, you know, like maybe their grandfathered in or something I don't know you I mean the videos I saw Like it was clear before the earthquake was even over like that those buildings are coming down like and i don't know about like their their government buildings and their new buildings and whatnot but these old ones like it toppled the same way i'm sure we've all seen the like oh this is the way buildings are built in san francisco now compared to before and they do the shaking thing with the brick and you see on the left it just collapses within three shakes and the other one has those stabilizing

you know uh hydraulic beams or whatever and these collapse just like a house of cards you know on what i guess are hundreds of people like yeah yeah one can one can assume one can assume that a lot of those buildings were like what he said super old and not up to code but i think i think beyond a certain point they they implemented rules that made it a lot stricter so any new of those buildings were like what he said super old and not up to code but i think i think beyond a certain point they they implemented rules that made it a lot stricter so any new buildings being built had to be up to code i'm not sure i'm not going to talk about this honestly because i don't know i don't want to sound like none of us do none of us know about the intricacies of uh of regulations on buildings in mexico city you want the rest of your baby seven seven point one earthquake though is no joke man i think

the one in uh in 89 in san francisco was i think eight points something i'm not sure it was it was up there and you couldn't stand up like it was like i i felt earthquakes since then but that there was nothing like that in my life like it was terrifying i was i think six years old or something like that and and uh you literally couldn't stand up because the earth was shaking so so hard and we were 45 minutes away from san francisco too so they we didn't even get the worst of it wow yeah i've never experienced an earthquake i've never experienced one at all uh there was one that was near us once and uh it woke us from our sleep but like you didn't feel it. It was like, oh, what's going on?

Something happened? What? And it was like, look, and then we get alerts, and people start texting. Did you feel that? And it's like, I don't know. I did just wake up, though. What happened? Like a three earthquake or something 100 miles away.

So I can't imagine your home collapsing, those big apartment buildings collapsing, like I was saying. It looks like the day after tomorrow or 2012 or something. We've got some wacky, wild stuff in the news. And then I saw Melania Trump today give her UN speech, and nothing was quite the calamity as that, even with all the before-mentioned things. I don't know anything about her UN speech. She showed up wearing a fuchsia-colored wingsuit for some reason. Oh, God.

Can I talk about that for a second? People have been fussing about her shoes and her outfits and whatever, and my take on it has always been let's focus our outrage on the more important issues. There are things here that we should be looking at. I don't like the new health care bill that they're talking about voting on.

So that's a thing that I think is legit worthy of your time. But something about a fuchsia-colored wingsuit. My wife wouldn't wear that, and she probably has a cape on right now. Yeah. It's very poopy. Very poopy. The arms were

enormous. If she were in one of those hurricanes, she'd take the fuck off. How much was it? I'm looking for a hobby Article of clothing why would you wear this and look I Realized that there was an I didn't realize there were people online shooting on it I just watched it today like like with the volume on about eight and Because it's it's kind of hard to listen to her She sounds like Zsa Zsa Gabor, but not as smart. And she's just going on and on about the children of the world.

We must be an example. They are our future. And she's like, look, like she's looking from teleprompter to teleprompter, like reading line by line by line. And I looked at the girl I was with and I was like, if I were given a speech to the UN, I would have memorized that motherfucker forwards and backwards to the point where, like, teleprompters are completely unnecessary, and I could say this thing, you know,

well, just go, never stutter, never skip, no ums, no ahs, no pauses, and here she is just reading this thing off a cue card really poorly. Not poorly reading. Maybe it was a tactical thing. Maybe she's self-conscious about the way she speaks English.

And so she thought, nobody's going to pick on my speech and my English if I wear this parachute pant. Like, that's, I don't know. This could be a tactical thing. One of those guys. Melania, honestly, you're a wonderful gal. But as head of the Secret Service or whoever advises you, wear this. Don of those guys. Melania, honestly, you're a wonderful gal, but as head of the Secret Service, or whoever advises you, wear this. Don't ask why. Trust me. You'd much rather be cyber

bullied over your fuchsia tent than It sounds to me like she said we should treat children well and dress silly. I'm going to stick to my, let's get outraged about, I don't know. So Trump, like his thing is I'm going politics. I can't stop. Hey, we should back out. We should back out of the Iran deal.

And on the other hand, we should also try to set up a deal with North Korea. I'm sure they'll trust us. No, but Woody, the North Korea deals have gone so well so far. You just keep pushing through. Keep letting them go. There's no good way to handle that situation. You're right. There's just no good way to handle that situation. There's just no good way to handle it.

Sometimes I feel like, hey, what they're doing on this thing is clearly wrong. Why are they doing that? The only logical answer I can come up with is Big Snacks is funding them or something, right? But on the North Korea issue, there are no simple answers. We mentioned Big Snacks and NatureBox. Not Big Snacks the YouTuber. You Not Big Snacks, the YouTuber.

You know Big Oil? We're talking about the Snack Lobby is a callback. I thought you meant that guy, Big Snacks, who owned Yowsh back in the day. I do remember him. It was not a reference to him. It was the Nature Box Lobby that gets things down to $2.

Anyway, North Korea, super complicated. There's no obvious answers there, so I'm trying to $2. But anyway, North Korea, super complicated. There's no obvious answers there. So I'm trying to throw stones. You know, I have this theory because one of the things that's been getting me pretty pissed off from Twitter in the last couple of days is the amount of comments

that I'm seeing from, I'm guessing a lot of them are young, but these people that think that the obvious solution is to just go in and preemptively strike North Korea. And I was thinking about that today. I'm like, okay, why would people be suggesting something so drastic? And I think the reason is because a lot of people, when they were young, we were at war with Iraq which is not a tiny

country in fact I think it's like almost the same size as far as population goes as North Korea Iraq had the third largest military on earth but they were geopolitically very isolated and they didn't have any allies that were worth that were that were willing to go to to fight for them and they were no match for American militaristic might. That is not the case in North Korea. They have allies, they have their own arsenal, and they have the capacity to do unthinkable levels of destruction

in Japan, in Guam, in South Korea, on the west coast of the United States, maybe. Particularly Seoul, right? Because Chiz and I were talking about this extensively yesterday, and I was looking into the hardened artillery placements that they have, and they have thousands of them, and for those who don't know what an artillery piece is, it's

basically a giant cannon that shoots an explosive shell. You cannot counter it with any of the fancy missile uh defense stuff any of the david's uh what is it what do they call it in israel david's david sling or something something like that whatever the dome or whatever they've got bad and there's a bad missile defense and yeah that doesn't work either these things are high velocity low altitude projectiles and they have so many of them and they're not just sitting out when we use artillery because we have air support and we own the skies, we just sit them out in a

field next to each other, right? You've seen the big guns firing in unison. They put theirs underground with just a hole for the barrel to shoot through, so they're difficult to knock one out. I'm sure if we knew where one was, we'd have the munitions to do it, but there's thousands of them, and the issue isn't if we can get them, it's how long it takes, because the rate of fire on these things is really fast. It's a shell every few seconds. And I did

the math, and like, it's it was like 30 metric tons of explosives every time they pull the trigger, with all of them, and all that's landing in Seoul every time they shoot. And that doesn't include the 300 millimeter rocket launchers they have that fire 12 rockets simultaneously. That's the issue.

Steve Bannon laid it out pretty well. He was like, you know, the thing is they've got all these guns pointed at Seoul. I know you're probably not a huge fan, neither am I, but he's not dumb. No, no, no. That's not why I'm laughing. Oh, so he's like, they've got all these things pointed at Seoul, and we cannot stop them from taking out Seoul. As quickly as we, even if we launched first and snuck up on them,

they would still get all their shots off, and Seoul would be doomed. And Seoul has 8 million people, which is a lot. It's not a small number. The reason I chuckled a little bit is because McMaster and... I think it's nine. I think it's eight or nine million, something like that. But HR, McMaster, and Mattis were not happy with Bannon saying that because I don't know why they...

What do they think? Do they think that they can convince us that there's some other military option that they haven't discussed yet because there's as far as I know unless you literally nuked all of North Korea and just wiped it off the face of the planet you're not going to be able to stop traditional art artillery from completely destroying Seoul and many other parts of I've heard not sorry as good as I think and but the other thing I wanted to say real quick before you get to that is

like our missile defense systems are obviously stronger than they were like in the 80s or something like that, but what happens if a country decides to launch a salvo of nuclear warheads at us? Our missile defense system can't handle hundreds and hundreds of missiles.

It's not going to be able to knock every single one of them out of the sky. Would North Korea be able to send a salvo though? Because they'd only be able to knock every single one of them out of the sky. Would North Korea be able to send a salvo, though? No. They'd only be able to send one. When we're talking about multiples, you're talking... I'm just talking about theory. They don't have enough uranium to do that. It's Russia and China.

The guys who have hundreds in China's case and thousands in Russia's case of... They estimate that North Korea has between 20 and 60 nuclear warheads so they don't they don't have the competitive i'm not talking about just north korea attacking the united states i'm talking about any nation attacking any nation so this idea that we have these foolproof uh nuclear deterrence is just misplaced the biggest nuclear deterrent is mutually assured

annihilation right the fact that we have 2,000 ICBMs of our own that are pretty effective themselves, and nobody has as good of missile defense as we do. You go back to... What's the movie when they're working? Anyway,

more of us would survive the nuclear holocaust than them, sir. it'd all be okay it's not Red Dawn is it? no no it's a Taylor Cooper movie it's Dr. Strangelove the generals explain to the president

he's like we would be we would definitely be able to go underground and a few hundred years we'll come up from underground but the problem is what if the Reds hang on to a few nukes, sir? What if they hang on to a few and they nuke us in the future? And he's like, we need complete destruction. We have to annihilate, annihilate, annihilate.

It's such a good movie. But yeah, I'm not worried about full-on nuclear war, because I don't think Russia or China or India, Pakistan. I think Russia and China know that even though it be mutually assured assured devastation destruction whatever like they're not gonna win that fight in the end nobody's gonna win but the quote-unquote uh i guess pyrrhic victor will be the united states and so i don't think they would but north korea does make you nervous with it yeah she's just that australia will win maybe yeah everybody forgets and they're like ah this turned out pretty well yeah but to get in front of a camera and a microphone and and and go to dictator like kim jong-un by calling him rocket man what is the upside to that

you know what he's doing wins elections is there is there an upside to that at all that's his style right he labels people He slaps a label on them. Lion Ted, Little Marco, Crooked Hillary. And that's all that is. It's just him going right back to election. I have my own theory. Too many nicknames. Maybe this is just me. I wonder if he

has trouble pronouncing Kim Jong-un. Ah. I would. I'm like, guys, I get it right about a third of the time Can we just nickname this fucker What if he was just listening to a lot of Elton John I mean think about the lyrics of that song Rocket man

Burning up his fuse up there alone Maybe that's the case Did you know that album is up like 400 or 500% on Amazon I've been listening to it on a loop on YouTube. I love that shit. Fuck, I wish you called him Woody's Gamertag. Yeah, the song is up a lot.

So Elton John doesn't mind. Not a bit. He's all for nuclear war. No, yeah, you're absolutely right. We've talked about it before. It's a real fucking issue with North Korea. And Preemptive Strike, I don't think, is the way to go. If I were running the military and you told me that we have to do something now or they're launching next week,

my thing would be, alright, well, we've got to get the, like, whatever coordinates the artillery pieces, whatever command and control there is to say, alright, everyone shoot. We have to hit that and Kim himself simultaneously at the same time. And not with airplanes. Like,

there have to be people on the ground parachuting in special forces or something. Ninjas. That's what Mattis I think recently talked about, was that the need for troops on the ground, it wouldn't just be a war of shooting rockets at your enemy. You'd have to actually

literally go in and invade the country and install some new leaders. I don't think we should invade North Korea. You joke about ninjas, but Japan is right there and they're certainly in the fight. Japan sends their ninjas. We send our SEAL teams. I don't think they have too many ninjas.

Yeah, Kyle, you're so racist. They have samurais. They've got ninjas, too. I think they have ninjas in Japan as well. I don't really know. I don't really know. I don't know. Everybody's special force is the Canadian Maltese. Riding Elks.

Riding Moose. When those 5'1 starved North Korean soldiers see a big burly Canadian man with a beard down to here riding a moose into their land They'll quit right then and they'll do it like that They do hockey fights where the Canadian will be like, you know, I'm not a big fan of physical violence

But I'm here for it. And so we got a goal The intimidation factor is key here gentlemen So just out of curiosity story awesome coming at you yeah everything kind of just got the great white north you know i'm looking for there are snowballs and i love canadians yeah so so i'm curious are i know where you stand woody but kyle and and and uh taylor are you are you guys happy with trump's performance in the office right now? No. Yeah, let me jump on this first, because I think about this a lot. I'm not happy at all.

However, I felt like, just based on what Hillary said during the election, she seemed very hawkish on these matters. And while Trump has talked a lot of stupid, irresponsible shit, he hasn't shot anyone yet. You know what I mean? He hasn't done anything yet. And some of I mean? He hasn't done anything yet. And some of the proposals that Hillary had, particularly in Syria, seemed like they were going to really, particularly in Syria, seemed like they were going to put us in a real snafu

with Russia. And we just talked a minute ago about what an issue that could be. So like, no, I'm not happy at all from top to bottom. I can sift through like I like i'm panning for gold and find a spec here and there i'm like all right i guess you weren't complete imbecile here we'll hang on a little bit that's what it is so many people are like like sifting through all the stuff they don't like and still in denial about it where it's like because he's not he's not conservative at all he's not imposing any conservative principles or ideas because he's not a conservative himself but people will sift through and be like ah but gorsuch and it's like well yeah i like that too i think that's good but are you gonna hang your hat on that for the next four years like he really hasn't done much

that was one of the specs of gold yeah that's like that's like and so now yeah one thing like kyle did it to some extent but i people are like all, I'm not in love with how Trump's doing so far. We hope it turns around. But the alternative universe would have been nuclear war, fallout, et cetera, et cetera. Hillary was just about to launch, and it's like, I don't know. And now Trump's looking hawkish. Yeah. The truth is, as much as I've always not liked presidents, W is the only one that I thought was really, really bad.

You know, like I didn't vote for Clinton, the first one, but it turned out pretty well. I didn't vote for his, I think it was too young to vote for his dad, but that turned out okay-ish, and Obama turned out pretty well, the economy turned around, and we didn't have any major wars. And now Trump is in there, and as much as I'm not happy with how things are trending,

nothing's messed up yet Obama didn't start any new major wars although he droned the fuck out of the world remember when we'd always hear about another wedding party getting blown up in Pakistan or that hospital you know what they say he had no accomplishments but you're not

counting the drone battles against the wedding of 2014 yeah the drone battles against the wedding of 2014. Yeah, yeah. The drone wedding battles. The way I think about that is imagine sitting in a room with all your joint chiefs of staff. You're surrounded by generals, people that have been fighting on the geopolitical stage for decades now. the geopolitical stage for decades now,

and you have all these men telling you that you can either send in 3,000 troops to this country or something like that, or you can fire a drone off, I imagine that choice is very difficult. I don't want to be an apologist for everything that Obama's done because I'm not, but I imagine that is a difficult decision. That being said, there have been more civilian casualties this year as a result of our bombing campaigns than in any other year in the last 10 years or something like that. No, I read recently that Trump has surpassed Obama's eight years of civilian casualties. Yeah, in whatever it is, seven or eight months, he's already passed it.

I never know how they get those counts. Especially with civilians, right? It's never going to be 100% accurate. If we're firing a missile into a place that's so goddamn dangerous that we wouldn't dare send a Navy SEAL, who goes down and goes through this person's ID and like, oh shit,

that was Bob. Bob was a baker. And they also, to add on, it's the same way with like Hamas, where like when Hamas gets bombed and you know, all the dead people there, like, oh no, that guy with the AK-47 that we're quickly taking off of his shoulder, he was, he worked at the bank.

Like, no, that like, there is a lot of- Even if the number's off pretty significantly, we are comparing eight years to eight months and that's- So what you're telling me is he's eight times more effective. times well am i right oh why would that why would that be surprising though considering that his policy so far as far as like foreign policy and foreign conflicts goes was to just let the generals off their leash like he told them like go nuts that was that was like official policy he said he had a secret plan to destroy isis and then he comes into power and says that his secret plan was to give the generals 90 days to come up with a plan and then

he told them you guys you know i'm letting you guys do your thing do whatever you think is necessary which is also pretty clever because a lot it allows him to look tough but then it also allows him to shift the blame if shit goes south so you can say well well, that was their call, not mine. I do like him giving more control to the experts and the generals, though, in regard to some things, where it's like, who do you want making that decision? Yeah, I like Mad Dog Mathis, and it seems like every single

person in the military likes that guy, and they trust him, and he knows what he's doing. And so, yeah, I think it is good to let them have more control over that situation as opposed to the president. So I think they should take advice. But if if you allow the military to make these high level military decisions, they always decide more war. Right. The end of Iraq or the end of World War Two, the end of every war I can think of or the beginning. They always decide we should fight.

The Cuban Missile Crisis, I think, is a perfect example of that because JFK was surrounded by all his generals telling him, you need a new Cuba and you need to do it now. And he held off for, what, like 13 days? Yeah. All they have is a hammer. Everything is a nail. That's why we have civilian control of the military the commander in chief is a civilian

and it's because they have they make decisions in both directions sometimes I think that's what you get but we're talking about like big major decisions like whether we invade or not and that's still the civilian leadership in Trump

but I think the real important thing is the rules of engagement. I heard so many times, when I was talking to Dakota Meyer, when he was doing that whole thing and saving all those people, then he won the Medal of Honor, one of the main issues they were having is that there was a school full of bad guys, and they were receiving tons of machine gun fire from it, and there were mortars hidden behind it. And they called in multiple times to have the school blown up, and they wouldn receiving tons of machine gun fire from it and there were mortars hidden behind it.

And they called in multiple times to have the school blown up and they wouldn't blow the school up. And that was one of the things that cost so many lives that day. I think that one of the things that Trump's done is kind of change the rules of engagement or rather let the generals off the leash as to the rules of engagement. Isn't that kind of a contradiction though? Because like how are you going to say that Hillary was going to be more of a hawk and then applaud Trump's decision to turn over control of our, you know, involvement in foreign

conflicts to hawks, like a team of hawks? Well, you've got Afghanistan, the longest conflict in American history. Like, it'd be great if we got that thing over with, but it's never going to be over with because the reason we're in Afghanistan has nothing to do with the Taliban or Afghanis. It's about dealing with Pakistan, who's across the border supporting actual terror. That's why we have to stay there. That's why Trump wasn't allowed to pull out the way he thought he was. They told him, like, the real issue here, sir, is Pakistan and the way they support terrorism.

But when I talk about Hillary— Who knew it could be so complicated? Nobody knew. When I talk about Hillary being hawkish, I mean getting in trouble with Russia, specifically her call for a no-fly zone over all of Syria or parts of Syria. That was literally going to, as soon as it was put into place, it was going to cause a conflict with Russia because Russia's flying their jets over. Are we going to shoot a Russian jet down?

Yeah. That's risky. I mean, okay. At this point, I'd have to ask you how much you care about Russian involvement in our election. If you're so concerned about a conflict with Russia, are you concerned about what happened in the 2016 election?

I'd like to know what happened because I've heard about the Facebook ad buy, something like $100,000 worth. Is that the right figure? That seems small. It has to be more than that. That's nothing. It wasn't just on Facebook, too. It was on Twitter and Instagram as well. Because Hillary spent a billion dollars,

right? Like a billion dollars on her campaign. Just digitally? Her entire campaign. Okay, because that would be fucking bananas. That's what presidential campaigns cost, unless you're Donald Trump and you come in under budget and ahead of schedule. Well, what you have right now is you have all of the current and former heads

of the CIA, NSA, FBI, and what's the other one? NSA. Is there another one? NSA, did I already say that? I think you did. You have all the current and former heads telling us exactly what happened. So it's really on you if you believe them or not. To me, I think it's much more implausible that all these heads of all these intelligence agencies

and along with them all these federal employees and agents that are working for these agencies, I think it is insane to think that they're all engaging in some kind of conspiracy. Yeah, none of us believe that. That would be the biggest conspiracy in American political history if that were the case. What evidence do you find the most compelling that Russia manipulated the... Or I guess we have to get the phrasing down first. You mean they hacked the election and changed votes? Or you think that they poured money in somewhere?

And what convinces you the most of that? Just curious. Well, when you look at Putin's agenda and what he wanted out of it, when you look at his interest in fracturing political alliances all around the world, notably with NATO and the UN, and to undermine our democratic institutions in general, it benefits him to create weaknesses in our political system. He gets to point at us and say, see, democracy is a failed experiment. It's not going to last. And then you also have the issue of sanctions with the magnitsky

act uh you had they called it the adoption issue it's not an adoption issue it's a sanctions issue uh so you had a a really uh substantial financial interest in um helping to install a leader in the united states that would be more friendly to Russia. As far as specific evidence goes, you saw it anytime you logged into Facebook or Twitter. No, that's not specific evidence. Okay, how about the meeting with agents from the Russian government? Donald Trump saying, I love it, and they go there. And then they didn't put it on their disclosure forms

when they applied for top secret clearance. I have a question about... It's crazy to me that all of them forgot that meeting. on their disclosure forms when they applied for top secret clearance like just 10 seconds i have a question about it's crazy to me that all of them forgot that meeting right like yeah you know like even in times where i had lots of meetings even in times where i had meetings that consume my life there's no way that i would forget meeting with like a russian agent a russian hacker a translator and someone else and they didn't all forget it. They failed to disclose it. I have a question about that. Were those meetings, I don't know specifically, but were those meetings where they were gathering the intelligence or learning what had been found by exposing the DNC's emails?

That's the theory. Let me just go one more step further. The thing that always kind of irks me a little about that is like, yeah, I don't want Russia fucking around our election. Those fucking commies, right? They have been our enemy since one day after World War II. Okay, one day later and Stalin was our fucking enemy. Communism's killed 100 million people in 100 years right we always we all saw the reddit post it's true but here's the thing nobody ever

stops and says yeah but they were exposing a ton of corruption that fucked bernie sanders out of this thing hillary should never been in there to begin with bernie won the dnc was fucking bernie over and the russians exposed it to benefit themselves. Bernie didn't win. He didn't. I know he didn't because of the DNC. Oh, man. He didn't get a fair shake.

The DNC hacks, most of those emails were sent in, like, May after Hillary had already locked the nomination. I supported what Bernie did. I thought that was – you know, I think he did what he did, staying in the race until the very fucking end. I think that was important, you know, from a progressive point of view because he forced this new message out there into the mainstream, and now you're seeing mainstream left move from the center more towards the left, which I know bothers Kyle and Taylor. But for people like me me i think that was

important that he did that that being said he wasn't gonna win that and i like i didn't see i don't i didn't see enough compelling evidence to suggest that the the dnc literally rigged the election in favor of him was there obvious bias yeah but where that where that bias showed showed its ugly face was like i said a moment ago, well into the point where Hillary had already locked the nomination. I supported Bernie enthusiastically. I didn't have a lot of nice things to say about Hillary during the primaries. He was my candidate. I was really excited to see him get so much.

Him and Donald Trump, I thought that that was a really fascinating point in American history that someone like bernie sanders and someone like donald trump could be elevated to that level of popularity you know i think there's a lot of good from that that you can draw on a lot of bad we're uh were you pretty disappointed when bernie got knocked out or did you quickly kind of just be like all right well hillary's the lesser of two evils here like i'm going with that or did you at all ever feel like they fucking cheated him like they they got under or they did something they were leaking questions to hillary and giving her special treatment and biasing you know throwing him in the corner or anything like that yeah i thought that was reprehensible donna brazil giving the question out like that like what are

you dumb like you don't you don't like you don't need to do that he didn't she didn't need to do like yeah there were there were there were lots of evidence of foul play. I am not making excuses for the DNC or suggesting that they acted ethically during that primary, but I am pushing back by saying that they prevented Bernie from getting the nomination. I just don't think that that's true. And to answer your question, yeah, I remember saying, like, I'm going to abstain. If Hillary gets the nomination, I'm going to abst gonna abstain i'm not gonna vote for anybody and it took me about a week or two weeks before i was like this is serious you know like this is just like i i i

did not think that like i knew that he had a chance the whole time you know like i said certain things to make myself feel better from time to time but on the on the morning of the election i was scared shitless because i realized because i you thought you thought she had it totally locked i was i was wrong but i thought i was so in the bag dude states were going for trump and i was like oh that's cool at least it's a close game you know like especially after comey's letter and especially after the fucking stalvo from wikileaks i like i knew i'm like this is this is going to be close and every poll had it like all the national polls had it almost exactly right if you go to

real clear politics their average was within like not even a percentage point of what the popular vote ended up being so all this nonsense about all the polls were wrong like some of the state polls were flawed obviously but the national poll pretty much called it exactly like it's a state polls that were really really horrible like a lot of the d plus 10 ones that were really misrepresentational the situation like you could it was crazy to watch that night on the news because like like as it was happening i'm like there's no fucking way Trump's going to win but let's see how it pans out and then as it's going you see like

honestly MSNBC looked like someone had just summarily executed all of their pets like they were like this can't be real it felt like a badass trip it really felt like a badass trip in my head all night as it like finally tipped I just had that picture of ron

paul and that gif like it's happening oh that was great so hard that was crazy and since then you've seen a lot of like misspent energy from the left like focusing on i don't think it's like i don't think it's morally wrong to make fun of melania for stupid speeches and a stupid shirt or something like that, but you also have the healthcare bill being passed through this week, jammed through Congress this week, and of these tensions rising in North Korea. I beat that same drum

every week. Trump will say something dumb, and it's like, focus all your energy on things that are real, things that are tangible, things that could make a difference. Melania's outfit, I just write that off. They've been pretty good about not talking about his kids, his young kids anyway.

They talk about Eric constantly. For a while, Baron was getting a lot of shit. Yeah, that's nonsense. Because what I heard was a lot of people saying, stop giving him shit. But I didn't actually see it. The outrage got ten times what the teasing got. I saw a ton of mean shit early on with Baron, where it was making fun of him for being autistic.

And it's like, this is just a kid who has a dad that you don't like. At the end of the day, he's playing video games. He doesn't know what his dad's doing. He doesn't give a shit. I extend that to Melania. Now, I wouldn't if it was when Hillary got elected. They ran on this platform of like, hey, you wrote for Bill Clinton,

you get two presidents for the price of one. And she was their leading healthcare bills and stuff like that. So when they gave Hillary a hard time, and they did, it was like, yeah, but she's in the game. Melania, she's not in the game. She's just married to the president, and that's her gig. I don't see her in the game. Melania, she's not in the game. You know, she's just married to the president and that's, that's her gig. I, I, I don't see her as the target. It's, it's misdirected outrage.

Nobody takes her seriously. Nobody takes her seriously anyways. It's not like she's out there corrupting the minds of the youth. You know what I mean? Like people, people kind of shrug her off. I think everybody, I think everybody knows that she's kind of taking her orders you know what i mean she's staying in line and doing her job as a politician's wife but i don't i don't think she's out here i don't you know anyway yeah i actually read hillary clinton's book did you guys read her book yet or no no oh not yet everything are you gonna read it i think i think you might find it interesting i mean it made me it it was like a it was like a like coming from the perspective of someone who finds all this

stuff fascinating like i i don't know about you guys i thought i find the american and the global political landscape like fascinating i could sit there on my phone and read about it from the time i wake up until the time i go to bed because I just think it's so mentally stimulating, you know, for better or worse on some days. It's interesting, but it's also soul ruining to do for too long. It could be soul crushing. It's like you stare into the abyss. Especially if you're out of power.

If you're out of power, are you just watching your team lose again and again and again? It's like being a Blues fan. Oh, stop it. Now hockey season's starting. One preseason game and three injuries. But a lot of the shit that I found so interesting in that book was really unique

perspectives like what she was doing on the night of the election and what that night was like for her and how it played out. I did see another excerpt you're talking about that she took a nap as everything was coming in. Then she woke up and everyone's face, I just imagine that in my mind and it just makes my heart crumple into a tiny little origami ball. You know what she thought when she came in the room and saw those frowny faces and people looking completely distraught. She didn't think she'd lost. She was like, Bill died,

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a straw wrapper and then you put a little bit of water on it and then all those things i've got a new topic animal sponges i intentionally chose no political topics for this week it didn't work out like i planned but uh here's i saw this one on ask reddit what's the fastest way you've ever seen somebody fuck up their life some terrible decision like personally or just like a celebrity or something like that oh i don't know i interpreted it to mean like somebody in your universe someone you ran across went to school with worked with thought i immediately thought of one but but that's mean so i won't use that one i gotta keep thinking about it

i i know i know um i have like a yeah i i've watched alcoholism like really destroy someone like really destroy someone and I think that that stands out to me is you know but but that's a little different from like making dumb decisions you know because there's a genetic component to that and um but yeah I've seen someone's life just absolutely wrecked by by rampantism. Sometimes I drink a little too much, but I'm making a distinction between that and you have to have a swig of vodka to wake up in the morning, like that level of physical dependency.

Once you get to that point, it's really hard. I mean, come on. Just a capful so we don't get the shakes, right? Just a little, yeah. Just a little Listerine. Just to get well again. It's funny that that was your example, because all i had in mind was an anti example and it was like they told me that everyone who did drugs was ruined forever like those high

school burnouts and stuff that they had no future and uh it just so happened like some of the i want to say the like number one burnout who was in my year of high school I'm now Facebook what decade were you in high school early 90s well yeah I guess I started in 88 ended in 91 something like that you were raised with like the just say no Nancy Reagan kind of yeah yeah so you know that was of course she was her sitting on that couch judging you yeah she I guess was 80 to 88 but that was still like the thing and they they taught us that like these kids who whose hobby was pot would go nowhere and it's like well yeah we're in our 40s now so the scores posted right we've got

a rough idea where these people are landing they weren't ruined no but only other side of that coin not with like the drugs people consider more serious now but still with with weed like of course it didn't quote ruin their lives but i've seen people like in college go from you know trying weed to just all day every day getting high and it's like it's almost like that south park thing that south park thing they're like oh you know what stan you know weed isn't going to you, but it makes you okay with being complacent and being lazy. And so, and so many of these kids were smart, you know, and they had like some partial scholarships to go to school or something. And so many of them ruined their fucking college career by doing nothing their freshman year, nothing their sophomore year year or just getting booted out after a year and it's like oh okay so you've basically set your life back years and

years and you're gonna spend more money all because you wanted to get high like your life's not ruined but you've definitely shot yourself in the foot it's like you said though you referred to them as kids you know they're technically adults but like anybody yeah you're 18 they're kids you know like 18 to 20 21 i still say you're you're a kid and um when you when you're young i think that's that's more the case you know but i don't i don't think it's necessarily always the case or even the case for the most part that if you smoke pot it makes you okay with mediocrity or laziness or whatever it is i think all day every day yeah right when you when you're young, you know, like if I could go back and change

anything about my pot usage, it would be I wouldn't have, I would have waited until I was like 25, you know, until I had formed like a decent worldview or a semi-informed worldview and I had some kind of goal or ambition or something like that. Because yeah, I absolutely fit into the category that you're talking about. I went on at a 4.2 gpa my senior year of high school i i was on the

dean's list my freshman my my my freshman my first semester of college second semester i started smoking pot and i ended up on academic probation because i didn't even show up to two of my finals because i was just that's all i did from the time I woke up until the time I went to bed. I think part of that also has to do with the forbidden nature of it all, of being told that it was so evil and wrong and it makes it a little bit more alluring when you're young. So I don't know.

I think ironically you can end up deterring a lot of kids from smoking so much pot by not demonizing it so much. When you make it up to be this big thing that it's not, then you add a lot of appeal to a lot of younger people that are looking to rebel. It's like rates of alcoholism, I think, in Italy. I feel like this was used as an example in a class I took in college where it's like in Italy you start drinking when you're 16 or earlier and the way you drink is your family has a big meal a big family meal and you have a couple glasses of wine and that's just what you do and so when they turn 21 or they're a young adult they're not going out getting hammered the way American 21 year olds are because they're like

oh I finally got it I finally got it let's just you know vodka breakfast like it's that same kind of thing like it doesn't have that stigma in italy and so it's different i have an answer for the question uh the the quickest i've seen or know of someone fucking their life up uh it was uh one of my mother's uh she teaches and one of her teacher friends has a son and uh i was like i knew him because I was like eight years younger but we'd go to their house and and they'd have pool parties and stuff and he was a nice guy and he went off to school and he decided uh I think jackass was pretty popular this time that he was going to pull a stunt and slide down a banister uh this is really high banister in

at school he fell he cracked his skull open and he is now so mentally impaired that he requires assistance for all things and uh so finishing school was completely out of the question it's sad it was horrible it was forget about like getting some kind of uh i see i saw a kid that got shot in the head and he's like missing a quarter of his brain and he like somehow he got a degree right like i don't know what special program they put that guy in but this guy like smell anything this guy was not a candidate for that it was like okay well now missing a quarter of his brain, and somehow he got a degree. I don't know what special program they put that guy in. You just can't smell anything. This guy was not a candidate for that.

It was like, okay, well, now you're going back to home with your mom and dad, and they'll care for you until you die. I've got one. I've got to pee. One second. So I went to high school with this guy, and the long and short of it is they had a baby their sophomore year in high school. And I remember him telling me about it, like what led to it.

At the time, I could not get laid at all. And his girlfriend was beautiful. And he wasn't. And he's telling me about it. And apparently they had sex a lot, right? So like 50 times unprotected sex, he figured, well, I guess I'm not fertile. Or she's not, but clearly we're not having a baby because we've fucked 50 times

and there's no kid, right? Probably over the course of like two or three months. And, well, that lucky streak didn't hold up, and they had a kid, and I know that she stayed in high school, but it was very tough on her. Socially, it was

just a whole new thing. people felt that a lot like other girls weren't having sex but of course she's the slut because she's carrying a baby and uh you know she had no one to hang out with it was she was miserable totally miserable and the dude ended up not finishing high school and i don't know what came out of him for all i know they're curing cancer or something but it looked like life ended yeah that's that is rough like what kyle said reminded me of another one with that guy with uh a brain injury this wasn't uh this is a guy i played hockey with when i was much younger and i didn't i wasn't good friends with him or anything like it kind of stopped playing on the same team and they kind of

stopped associating and talking and like it was probably five years ago now that my dad was talking to me and he's like hey do you remember so and so from hockey when you were little like oh yeah i wonder what he's up to and he's like well he's he got addicted to some kind of i don't remember like because my dad didn't know it was some kind of drug and i was like oh like so he has problems now? Okay, I guess if I ever see him, I'll say hi and see how he's doing. I talked to him on the phone once because basically the message from my dad was like, this guy's really struggling. I know you're not his friend and you haven't talked to him in 12 years,

but can you just reach out? And so I was like, okay. And so I gave him a call to say, hey, next time I'm in St. Louis, next time you come to St. Louis, we'll talk and hang out. And the way he talked to me was literally like this. I'm not exaggerating. It's like, hey, what's going on, Joe? He's like, hey, is this Taylor?

I was like, yeah. Yeah, it's Taylor. What's new with you, man? How have you been doing? Oh, good. Mostly. And it was like, no, it was honestly like, no, and it's not. It was the furthest thing from my fucking mind while talking to him was any kind of laughter because it was because I heard this guy talk in locker rooms as a normal guy before and it was just heartbreaking to be like holy shit this guy he's not gonna get married he's not gonna

have kids he's not gonna be able to have his own home he's not gonna be able to do anything his life is fucking over did you say his drug did i miss it i i don't know what it was but it must have been something severe based on the way he's articulating himself like it was just there's something about like someone who like obviously it's tragic when someone's born with like Down syndrome or whatever, but it's so much more viscerally tragic because it's almost like a warning sign to you when you see someone who was born healthy and normal become, you know, mentally inept because they bang their head or they do drugs or something. It's just, it's freaky. It's just sad.

Yeah, that's fucked. Taylor, I want to completely change topics and talk about, so I think this goes, I don't remember when the first time I heard Chiz talk about it. Maybe like all the way back in January when we were in Colorado. And he was saying, because I don't have the best of beards and Chiz's beard is less than mine. And then we got Papa Bear over there

So like we're like the three little pigs like with Chiz's Kind of a poor beard if I'm being honest. He knows it You just rock the the stubble and it's cool. Whatever you bullshit my ass. It's shitty beard now You drug me into it. I'll be straight He calls it Kyle the Cunt Fucking shit scrubby ass fag beard And then mine is like middle of the road or whatever. It's definitely patchy

on the sides. It doesn't fill in as much as the F word. I use the South Park explanation for that. You don't steal my word. I love gay people, but annoying people and jerks and people I want to call an asshole, I use the F word for. So that aside,

mine's not all I would like it to be. And the Taylor is just Papa Bear over there. It's excellent. Woody is also very strong, but his wife doesn't allow it, so he's not in the running for any of this. That kind of invalidates the strong argument, but carry on. No, you courteously choose not to.

I didn't say it. What Chiz said in Colorado was, you know, you can take minoxidil which is the active ingredient in rogaine and if you apply it to your face over the course of four to eight months it you will actually grow a thicker fuller bigger beard and i thought that was bullshit at the time but then like about two or three weeks ago i started like i I get on YouTube and I go and I searched minoxidil beard to see what was up. And sure enough, there's all these videos of people into it. They're showing progression.

There's people talking about the science of it and how it works and everything and how it does take quite a long time. And so like on a lark, I was like, all righty, then I ordered myself a box of it, got a one month supply of it. And and I mentioned it to Chiz like like randomly. Hey, I ordered some a box of it, got a one-month supply of it, and I mentioned it to Chiz randomly. Hey, I ordered some of this stuff. And he's like, oh, I've been on the program for several months now. No! He's like, I've been waiting on the final product to be ready to show off because I didn't want you guys to make fun of me.

But he texts us a picture of his six-month supply. He's been going for a while, and I'm like, I text a picture of my one-month supply. And then Taylor gets on Amazon. Like, he needs it, and he immediately takes a picture of the Amazon purchase. He's also bought it. I've seen this. He's got it right there. I've got a six-month supply.

I'm trying to figure out if I'd rather have a full head of hair again or be able to grow a full beard. I don't think I have an answer yet. You do have a full beard, though. You don't have to choose. I do. He's talking about answer yet. You do have a full beard, though. I do, but I do have to choose. I do have to choose. I started noticing this little ring

form fucking about a year ago and it just started getting bigger and bigger so finally I just buzzed it all off. The right call. I wanted to give you a compliment on that because so many guys pitter-patter around the shaved head thing

for so long that when they finally do shave their head it's like aha you've you've been defeated you finally gave in like you let it the first sign of it i was i will also accept the nearly shaved head like i think i don't know half a centimeter you know some small amount of hair if that's your preference it works for me too what i don't know the comb over is not the good one is it traumatic i'm sorry i don't know go ahead on the balding so this burned into my mind john luke picard people would ask him like hey you're the sexy bald guy you're the sexy bald guy etc and he got visibly upset he's like look sometime in my early 20s i started losing my hair it is one of the most traumatic devastating experiences i've ever lived

through i don't want to talk about it and i was like really like it it was i didn't have that much of a strong reaction but it sucked like i would look in the mirror and i'd be like because it because it's so final like the finality of it is jarring you know reminds me it reminds me i'm gonna die one day and i fucking i don't know about you guys but i like i didn't i didn't think about just to get a little morbid with you i don't know if i'm changing the subject but like i didn't think about death too much until the last three years. And now I'm terrified of dying. I think about it a lot. So when I started balding, it just reminded me that I'm just inevitably hurling towards death. I don't like that.

It's like leprosy for your hair. My family is odd about that. So my family is odd in a bunch of ways. I've talked about it in sex a bunch of times. But the other thing is I was raised knowing I was going to die. I guess we's odd in a bunch of ways. I've talked about it in sex a bunch of times. But the other thing is, I was raised knowing I was going to die. I guess we all were, but it's different. My parents have been planning their death

for a long time now. They've got the plots, the whatever, but that's not it. They also plan their disabilities and you're like, alright, so let's see, we're about 64 right now. They're like 70. And that means we'll have five more good years of walking so we want to get this done and that and then we'll visit this other place that doesn't require

the same kind of mobility and they just have their like their decline all mapped out they're maximizing their golden decline years that's why they're getting in so much fucking that's what they're like baby you're 95 i'm not gonna be able to throw it into you like the old day so we better get in all this we can it could be all that praise that's how they do it he gives her a good rogering a good rogering every night he shows up and that that fucking that rock hard mammoth is just just standing at attention and she knows what's up and i mean and and she also knows he's faster than her so there's no point even questioning him she just she knows

what to do uh no but for real though do you guys do you guys think about death do you guys ever like you guys ever laying down go to bed and then all of a sudden in your mind you're like one day i'm just going to cease to exist i've been comfortably in terms of years where i'll be like in 2069 like how old would i be and i'd be like oh man i i very likely might be dead yeah like that's that's scary like and then i like i don't know why i think about it like this but then i like will jump back a century and think about people who died in 1969 instead of 2069 or whatever. And think like, holy shit, think about how much has happened that they didn't even experience, that they didn't know was coming. And it's like, fuck, what's that going to be for me?

Like there's got to be so much cool shit coming that I'm never, ever going to see. And I don't know. I don't want to say too much. I can honestly say, and I don't want to come off the wrong way, but I'm really not afraid of death. I've accepted it, right? I've done a stupid shit where like right before you did it you're like this could kill me and to to i've kind of gotten numb to the idea that it's coming one way or another preferably not later i don't want to be uh diminished to the point where i don't enjoy daily life if if i can't even enjoy sitting in a chair and watching CNN and playing video games, then

I want to die. You want someone to pull a million dollar baby on you. I absolutely do. At some point, if it ever gets too shitty. Absolutely, 100%. I'll do it. Dude, look, there's been so many... Would you though? You say it. No, I would not kill Kyle.

I would not kill Kyle. I've had this conversation, I think, three different times in my life where I told, like, we were working with flamethrowers specifically. And flamethrower, you've got a big tank of pressurized napalm on your back. And I would tell the guys with me, I'm like, look, I've got my pistol on my side. on my side, if I get fully engulfed and I'm on the ground like that Gibson movie, We Were Soldiers, and I'm melting, someone kill me. One of you shoot me with your pistol and then just take my gun out of my holster, put it in my charred hand, and that'll be the story. Like, I'm serious, I'm looking at everybody, I'm like, look, I don't want to live like that, even for 10 minutes, much less 50 more years.

I'm very vain, I'm very, very vain, kill me please. And like, I've had two different people on different occurrences be like, I got you man. And like, no joke, no crack and a smile, be like, dude, I don't blame you, I got you. So I was in the same boat for a long time time and I had a friend who was like my age now when I was like 25 and he was really preoccupied with death all the time. He talked about how afraid he was of it all the time. And I remember thinking in my head that it was laughable. I'm like, what are you doing, man?

It happens to everybody. You just got to accept it. It's going gonna be fine i didn't i didn't have any real serious concerns about not being on this planet during this time with all these people until like the last two or three years and then it just hit me all of a sudden and i honestly think it's given me a deeper appreciation for the things in life that i like you know so i think it's given me it's it's given me a lot of things that i'm grateful for but at the same time it's like always just nagging at me in the back of my head you know like like you're never gonna be on this planet again

you know depending like even if you're even if you're a buddhist and you believe in in rebirth or a hindu you believe in reincarnation or something what are the odds that you're going to be reincarnated here on this planet yeah like why nobody remembers it and so it's and that's why i always thought like but if you don't remember your previous lives how how is it even you like it's what are you but kind of an amalgamation of your your past experiences yeah well the buddhists explain that by calling they'd make a distinction between uh rebirth and reincarnation like reincarnation is the thought that it's the same soul being transferred transferred to a different vessel every time but the Buddhists say that like they can they say it's like a row of candles and let's say you light the first candle and then you use

the first candle to light the second and the second to light the third and so on and so forth so you get to the tenth and then they say is say, is that flame, is that 10th candle, is that the same flame that existed on the first candle? And that's kind of how they look at coming back. Like it's you, but it's not really you. I have a different take on the death thing. Death doesn't bother me too much. Death is something unfortunate that we all do to the people who loved us, but it happens. What I don't like, and I've already seen pieces of,

is the decline of athleticism. I really enjoyed training MMA. I was super into it. All my thoughts were consumed by it. But it gets to a point where it's like, God, I'm taking injuries from class to class to class that last for months now. You can't just sit there and fight 18-year-olds

all day long at 40 and expect this to work out for you. Yeah, Kyle might break your hand. Kyle might put you down. It happens. So what do you guys think of emergent technology when it comes to fusing... What do you call it? What the fuck do you call it, guys?

Cybernetics? Yeah, cybernetics. Like the fusion between man and machine. I think that's the future. Yeah, I think that's the future. I think that eventually, and that is immortality in its purest form. That's what is coming, I personally believe. Just the way technology goes, right?

The shit that we've got even now, I would have never believed when I was a kid. And vice, and it just keeps going back every 10, 15 years. So I think that we're definitely going to get robotics to the point where you'd be like, Ah, man, shit. I wouldn't mind living inside of that fucking thing. God damn. It can fly. It can jump.

It can swim. It can... Nanotechnology. I'm not convinced it'll be you, though. Nanotechnology is particularly... Right? swim it it can nanotechnology i'm not convinced it'll be you though particularly right like if if what kyle is we could we could according to woody if what kyle is is just a handful of chemical reactions you know that just just going off all the time right all his synopsis firing all the way his muscles move if everything about him is just these chemical reactions and we could somehow

like turn that into math and put it in a computer, I don't think we'd do it right. I think it wouldn't be Kyle. There's two different ways to do it, though. So what if I agree with you, and that's a very similar argument to when you use the Star Trek transporter and it completely breaks you down to your atoms and then sends a signal to another ship and then you're rematerialized as you. Is that really you? Is it?

No, of course not captain kirk died every time he beamed down because but but what i'm saying is maybe maybe we get your consciousness in there and to everyone around it seems like you but and you and it even believes it's you but it's not really you i think that's where you're headed but i'm saying maybe we take my brain we take my actual like fucking brain matter and we robocop this shit right like we and my even even then like you get your brain and how long until you get some sort of neurodegenerative disease and you just become a robot who doesn't remember it's a robot or something like that's that's where nanotechnology comes in you're talking about rebuilding cells

at a at a cell rebuilding things on and a repairing things on a cellular level, then you can essentially reach what you could call immortality. But what happens if you fucking, what happens if you get in a plane crash or fall off a clip or something like that? Like how's, how are the nanobots going to, going to,

going to rebuild your body? Like we don't, we can't even conceive of those kinds of answers. You'd be going from an old backup. But in like, right. It'd be Kyle from last week. You just live all of eternity. it's like when i swam with my phone and all of a sudden everything ended in december ah fuck think about depressing this thought is like theoretically

these things are possible and some say it's inevitable so how fucking depressing is it that we need to wait for technology to reach that point where it's even a viable option or it's possible so we're going to have a generation of people that are going to die knowing that the younger generation gets to live quote-unquote live forever or live like an extremely prolonged life yeah if you if you believe as i do i mean based on my very limited scope of understanding of nanotechnology, if you believe that this is an inevitability that we're heading towards, that is so depressing.

It is. To think that we have to be the last ones barreling into the abyss. How much are we going to miss that by? I think that's way off. When I was a kid, I had similar thoughts, but it wasn't about living forever. Were they talking about nanotechnology when you were a kid? No, what they were talking about was space exploration. And I was like, man, like it stinks so much that space exploration, like good stuff, colonizing Mars is a hundred years off. And I won't be the guy they want

for that because I'm, you know, 10 years away from being that guy. You know, I'm 15 now. because I'm 10 years away from being that guy. I'm 15 now. They'll want some 25-year-old to go form a colony over there. Not a 65-year-old or a 125-year-old. Yeah, you always miss stuff. It always gets more advanced. I thought you were going to go down the route that, like, I thought the space exploration thing would happen,

but it just hasn't yet. And so maybe by the same regards, the nano thing won't. But my thoughts on, and you didn't make that argument. It's further off than we think, but go on. Yeah, I think the nanotechnology thing will happen before the extreme space travel, at least Star Trek style, for sure. And here's why.

Everybody wants to live forever, but there's a very small group of it people and there's money in it and the space exploration uh not so much unless you're talking about asteroid mining which then there's trillions of dollars worth of every anything and everything up there if you could just figure out a way to get back except that there's money and not doing that right like one of my conspiracy theories that i buy into is that energy companies are preventing solar and wind and stuff from making the progress they could have, right? And you see it. Like, oh, yeah, we're going to sell you energy at 10 cents a kilowatt and buy it back at one because suck it.

And I feel like – They told those people in Florida recently they couldn't use their solar panels. Even though they had the capability to do it, some energy lobbyists convinced people, these lawmakers in Florida, to prevent them from being able to use their own solar-powered fucking house in the middle of an energy crisis. I've read that too. So it's crazy. You can't use your own solar panels? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, he's right. That did happen.

They wrapped it in this safety thing, but really there are ways to solve the safety problem automated. So I buy into that. I swear if mining, I don't know, titanium on an asteroid became like a really financially viable thing to do, big titanium would shut it down. Yeah.

I see your point. Look at the diamond industry and what the De Beers cartel does. You'd have something similar. You know, you look at the diamond industry and what the De Beers cartel does. You'd have something similar. And, you know, also, dude, if we suddenly imported 100 tons of gold, what happens to every stock market around the world? It's hyperinflation, as Chiz just put in there and beat me to the punch because he's a cunt. But, you know, you'd have global wars and things would get real bad. But, you know, you'd have global wars and things would get real bad.

Well, what happens when you can manipulate matter on an atomic level and literally turn a shoe into a fucking steak that you can eat? That would theoretically usher in a post-capitalist society where what good is currency when everybody gets their needs met? Are you familiar with the Star Trek sort of economy and the way things are done? I don't know if you're just read about this but i you i don't i read like a headline i don't know so like so i i'm one of the you know everybody knows the old quote you know the capitalism's not a good system it's just the best one we've ever come up with or whatever but the star trek system is ideal it's the best system imaginable, but it requires a higher, a more evolved group of people than exist here.

Because the only impetus to go forward and do things is the drive to just be great and do things. There is no monetary reward. Captain Picard don't get paid shit. All those missions, whenever he's saving the planet, flying around the galaxy, he's not getting fucking paid.

He don't get shit. He gets no money for that. In Space Nine, Benjamin Sisko, the commander, his dad runs a restaurant. And I read this long explanation about how he got to have a restaurant. He had to apply to some kind of a government board and prove that he was a good cook and talk about his business plan before they would allow him to have this restaurant. He doesn't get paid to cook. He doesn't get paid to cook. The only people in the universities that use money are the people outside, and they trade energy with those people.

So there's a bit of energy trading, but we're not evolved enough for that kind of a society to exist. So maybe we don't have to be that evolved, right? enough for that kind of a society to exist so what we don't have to be that involved right maybe like in my head the motivated people do those jobs and the unmotivated people just live off replicators and fly their paramotors and everything works out fine i lost everybody without i guess replicators they're called because as long as scarcity exists no no i mean i mean that we're too shitty i mean that the mean that a lot of the people who normally, like the high-drive individuals who are also very intelligent, the people who want to be an engineer,

they're not necessarily doing that altruistically. They're like, yeah, I'm going into STEM because that shit pays and you're going to be able to get a job, and that means I'll get pussy, and that means I'll have a nice car, and that means I'll have a big fucking house. And the nice car and the big house will get me more pussy and and that's what it's all about right we're talking about a future where like the way to attract and maybe it comes down to pussy in the end a dick it does whether you want it whether you want dick or pussy like like right now the way to get it is is success financial success by and large most of it most of

everything boils down to that but it seems like in the star trek universe that's a humor that's sure yeah you gotta be real fucking funny though dare to dream man are any women looking for poor funny people with like kim kardashian on on one arm and like like like another supermodel on the other or anything. You don't see him slaying it day and night. So do you guys think that a UBI is inevitable, a universal basic income here? No.

I think it is, and it's going to come soon. I don't know. It comes down to the technology of it. Like if it's a world like Kyle's describing, then it seems like, well, no, I guess if a world's like Kyle's describing, you wouldn't need a UBI because it would be post-scarcity and 100%.

We're talking about in the next 10 years where automation is estimated to replace what, like 20, 30% of the workforce or something like that? 40! That's what I saw. Look, it was on YouTube. Don't doubt my sources. I think

they're saying... I think they get those numbers that high and they are going to be high. But because they're saying the entire transportation industry will be automated when, I mean, eventually it will. But 10 years from now, like, there's just no way our entire transportation system is automated. Like, there's just no way. Yes, I agree. Yeah, I mean, that would be just way too disruptive. I just can't see voters i can't see constituents allowing something like that to happen especially because there's you know

really a lot of people not in the next 20 years no because like the way like my again this is according to my limited understanding of self-driving cars but the only way to safely have a system of self-driving cars is if every fucking car is self-driving it's actually it's that they say it's actually super dangerous to have human beings driving alongside a bunch of self-driving cars because they're making decisions so fast that humans don't have the reaction time or the understanding to know why in that moment the car decided to do that and it's not going to be able to adjust to those sorts of corrections, course corrections or something like that. Do you see that happening in the next 20 years?

I don't. I think that self-driving cars are the future. And here's why. I've been watching alternative labor sources come in, whether it be automation, overseas labor, imported H-1B workers and such, and never has the worker ever won. Ever, right? There's no protected workforce in America.

If you can get it cheaper, that's where the job goes. And they win practically 100% of the time. So to say, oh no, no, no, not this time. This time our politicians will protect us from automation, I think is unprecedented. That's not how it no, no, not this time. This time our politicians will protect us from automation, I think, is unprecedented. That's not how it'll go down, according to me. Well, I think our politicians are the conduits or they're the representatives. I'm saying the people won't allow that to happen.

How have they – so far? People will pressure their representatives and their senators and their local state legislators to make sure that they pass laws protecting an American's right to drive a car. I hear you, but I come from a world where I feel like we've already done this battle, and it was a complete loss as computer programmers, right? Computer programming right now is a pretty tough job to get because you're competing with imported labor and in the terms of h1b workers and exported labors and where everyone just sends that you need a website that used to be a thing you do locally now it's done in india and vietnam and china and russia and places like that and heaven forbid you're in manufacturing right like if you make mufflers your job's gone right that's not an american job anymore it's done in china or somewhere else or like or like horse carriages when the cars came out you know what i mean people that used to drive horse carriages for a living you know they were

they were completely displaced when cars were they've never protected workers before i i mean i i wouldn't look at it from the worker perspective as much i was seeing what more what hutch i think was describing where you know 20 years from now they'll be like oh we got self-driving cars and they're pretty good but you can't do it unless everybody's on board and there will be a huge uprising of people like you can't steal my right to drive away from me like because there will be a ton of people who are like fuck well obviously the government and these companies have control over where I'm going at the end of the day and I don't feel comfortable with that there's an easy solution to that I believe that the future is going to be a hybrid of the two there are going to be roads just like there're gonna be roads where they are self-driving

cars only they're gonna be roads for the driving folk or lanes and there's and your lanes or they'll be separated by by some median or something like that but you're always always going to have to have the ability to to take over and pilot the car because we're never ever going to like i live in a rural area like like people take their pickup trucks and drive into their fields and use them as work vehicles you know and that's not a rare thing that's all over the world that people need to take their cars off of pavement onto grass and then do lots of work all day like that so it's always going to be a thing where there's a steering wheel a gas pedal and, and all that. In any case, you're going to need to keep automated

self-driving cars and human drivers segregated, and that's going to be incredibly disruptive. I would not be surprised if you saw local municipalities, local counties, cities, things like that, pass ordinances. I wouldn't be surprised if you saw a bunch

of them say, nope, we don't want any self-driving cars in this county. You couldn't do anything to stop that, I wouldn't be surprised if you saw a bunch of them say, nope, we don't want any self-driving cars in this county. And you couldn't do anything to stop that, I don't think. I want to talk about that burger robot. Did you see this leak that Chiz, it's in the thing over there. I mentioned it earlier, though, I think the robot

cost $15,000 or $30,000. I don't remember what he said, but he said the cost was going to drop very soon. It flips burgers all day for for for one flat fee and it just does it forever can we watch it as a group and i anticipate it does it better than a sophomore in high school right yeah i'm queued up at six seconds timing yeah i'm i'm already at six seconds yeah ready set play Yeah. Ready, set, play. Look at that. Oh, nice.

Who knew the technology existed to flip a burger? It is good to burger. I read somewhere that the focus of Chinese development in AI, they want to figure out how a robot can do home chores before anything else. Like a robot that can walk around your house, fold all your clothes, do all your dishes. That's what they're trying to work out first. What do you think?

Sex. You want a sex bot first. Like I said, it's all about dicks and pussies in the end. Remember that little quote from Game of Thrones recently? I guess it all does come down to dicks. There's not going to be fully realistic walking around sex bots ever.

Bullshit! You know, I'm not saying the technology's not there. Don't get so upset. If you hit a sore spot, Taylor, the man has dreams. I'm saying that women as a whole are going to band together and be like, no like no no you're not fucking robot women. We're the majority of voters

You know I'm gonna call on this one if there's a demand for it there will be a market for it and there will always There will always be a demand for really Eyes on it I put on the auto auto blow so I can have a conversation. I was going to say... I could just... like what is this? Oh, I just unclosed. It's a mannequin. When I think about my ideal sex robot, it doesn't need all the female parts, right?

I don't need fingers, but I don't need toes, I don't need ankles, calves, like a lot of... No, no, no. Auto blows about right. Might as well beat off. What's the point of fucking up? Let me tell you what a sex bot is going to do. I can make beating off less exercise. Just masturbate.

Because you don't masturbate. Right after you're done, you don't have to look over at the full-sized person sitting in your home. And like, who am I and what are you? I got this. Look, your sex bot is going your sex bot is going to be

for all intents and purposes, when you look at it, a human being. It's going to be indistinguishable. And maybe it'll use the same sort of nanotechnology we talked about earlier. It's going to be actual human flesh. It's going to be actual human flesh. It's going to be a human woman with no brain. Yes, what we've all

dreamt about our entire lives. Did you guys watch Westworld? Yes, of course. Oh my god. Just after one season, I think it might be my favorite show of all time, man. I think it really must. That's sacrilege around here,

to suggest that something's better than Game of Thrones. Yeah, I strongly disagree. I thought Westworld Season 1 was much better than Game of Thrones Season, this most recent season, Season 6 or 7 or whatever it was. I definitely preferred Westworld Season 1. Season 6 was a little sloppy. Season 6 was a little sloppy on Game of Thrones. I still loved it.

I still loved it. It's because they were just sprinting through everything like we got like in previous seasons like when it built up to the red wedding and it happened it was like oh my god like that was fucking horrible but i feel so much like adrenaline because it built us up to that and then you went right over three more episodes three more episodes would have been great three more episodes. Three more episodes would have been great. Three more episodes. They are sprinting through so much stuff. It took two seconds of scene for the wall to come down. They're just teleporting all over the place. I did want some travel, so it seemed realistic.

I know Woody disagrees on that, but it's just disappointing. It's just too quick. I read a deep dive on Reddit, a Reddit post, talking about that scene that you're talking about about how like how fast would it take like first they were estimating how far away from the wall they were and how long it would take for that person to run all the way to the wall how long it would take for a raven and reddit reddit um presented a really compelling argument that it could be done within three days and so but then the creators came out and said that what you saw of them being stranded on that island spoiler alert was one night they said it was just one night which yep doesn't make any sense yeah i've talked about i've talked about two instances in

that season that really irked me uh one was when uh the way they handled jamie and braun diving and saving jamie and they go in the water. That was completely mishandled because like and I'll do this quickly because I've done it before but he had armor and stuff Tyrion saw him go into the water. Khaleesi saw him go into the water. There's an entire Dothraki army

there. They'd have went in. They'd have got him out. That's what they should have done. They should have gotten him out and then Jaime would be their prisoner, and you would still get the same exact talk between Tyrion and Jaime without smuggling Tyrion into King's Landing. Jaime, hey, Jaime, go talk to your sister. Arrange a big meetup so we still get the big meetup, and that would have made a lot more sense.

And here's the best part about this the thing that changes and all for the better Bronn would be held on to by the Khaleesi as a way to guarantee that Jaime did what he wanted and that means that Bronn would be in the Magnificent Seven going north of the wall and also I

thought that they could have really there was a lot of walking and talking when the Magnificent Seven as I like to call them were up north of the wall walking to go get the White Walker. And I loved that. That was some of the greatest walking and talking that's ever been in the show. Absolutely. Big for the ringspan. But the problem was it was wasted.

They're walking and talking. They should have been sitting on that island and talking and using that to show time pass. And they should have made it more obvious to the audience that the Night King was one step ahead. The reason that they don't just chuck rocks at Jon Snow and pelt him to death is because they know that the Khaleesi's coming. They want her dragon. I believe that the Night King has the green sight. He can see the future. He knows he can't take the wall down without the dragon. So he's

sitting there waiting on the Khaleesi to bring him a dragon to use that whole time. If they had done that, I'd have felt better. I think that's pretty generally accepted, that he was waiting. Have you guys heard the theory that Bran is actually the Night King? Yeah, we've went into that to some extent.

That one is so compelling to me but they didn't really really it yeah hell yeah okay you don't think so i don't like the idea of that like i don't want brand to be the night king but who knows maybe it is i love that conceptually i love it like the playing with time and i i don't think brand's the Night King I do like the idea that Bran is Bran the Builder and that he's going through time and such but Night King specifically I feel like that's not him I don't think it's conceivable that he would have warged into the first White Walker and then just got stuck there

but then he wouldn't be the Builder I find them mutually exclusive explain to me what you mean by builder. What do you mean by that? So Bran the Builder built the wall, and I don't know if he founded the Night's Watch, but he built the wall that the Night's Watch... He was one of the first men, right?

No. I thought about it. He's descended from them, as all the Starks are. But Bran the Builder is this guy we kind of hear about in old grand stories, and in the extended Ice of Fire-like book. There's illustrations of Bran. And in those – Bran the Builder – and in those illustrations, as he's overseeing the construction of the Great Wall, he's being carried around on something that I would describe as four men, each of them holding a pole, and he's sitting in the middle. as four men, each of them holding a pole, and he's sitting in the middle.

And that's really compelling evidence to me that... You know what, Woody? I just fucking figured out that that's bullshit, because think about it. Bran goes back in time, he can walk around. Every time Bran wargs back in time, he's walking around. He's not crippled when he goes back.

So even if Bran does figure out how to... Because there was that part where he goes father and Ned turns around when he's going up the tower of joy so it's clear that if he really focused maybe he could influence stuff and appear to people maybe maybe that's conceivable but

he wouldn't be crippled yeah kind of rock solid huh kind of rock solid that kind of rock solid i'm convinced yeah that's all it takes for me but yeah i really hope he's not the king did you guys watch the the defenders on netflix no i haven't seen any superhero my opinion on all the so i've watched all that stuff and my opinion is that the best thing that they've done is daredevil And I think the second best thing they're going to do is going to be the Punisher But I really really and I hate everything else. I hate everything else

They I really dislike Jessica Jones. I really did I fucking hate the is it Luke Cage? Oh, I And Luke Cage is the best of them if of the ones I hate. And that's not saying much. And when you slack the defenders together, they spent way too much fucking time worrying about how to get the color gradient to go blue or gold or red, depending on which

character was on screen. And way too little time figuring out how to make a compelling story that's paced well and moves along well and incorporates each of these characters together. I love Daredevil. I liked the Defenders more than Jessica Jones and Luke Cage and Iron Fist, but it certainly wasn't as strong

as Daredevil. I'm going to agree with you on that one. I didn't watch the trailer for The Punisher. Apparently, they just dropped today, but I'm assuming it's awesome. I loved The Punisher and Daredevil 2. Are the Defenders like the local police of superheroes? Like where they can't compete with like the big... Like if an actual army came into town,

they'd have to be like, all right, get fucking Superman on the line. Are they more just like... Yeah, the Defenders are more like, hey, they got a radio in their car and they're chasing down petty crime and things like that. Because I don't know any of these people's superpowers, but this picture of them, you got this very skinny girl who looks way too confident for her size. She's super strong.

Oh, I bet. Yeah. Oh, Jessica Jones? She's super strong. Yeah, she heals well, too. I'm going to make a statement here. I bet Taylor could beat the shit out of Iron Fist and Jessica Jones simultaneously in real life.

Well, wait, the actors maybe, but... Yeah, exactly. Jessica Jones as a character can kill all of us at the same time. Yeah, yeah. It's like, how many goblins could you take in a fight? Are you guys excited for True Detective

Season 3? Who are the actors? I didn't like season two at all uh maybe go go back and give it a second chance i watched it back a second time and i liked it a lot more the second time so maybe you would but so that so the main actor in true detective season three is the is the lead in uh and he's a black actor. What's his name? Wesley Snipes. He was in Moonlight. I didn't watch this Punisher trailer. I'd like to watch

that in a second. If you finish your point. It's alright. I love True Detective so I was looking forward to it. That was my point. I love season 1 of True Detective and I thought it was some of the best television I'd ever seen, and I still rank it up there in

maybe my top ten TV-made things ever. Woody Harrelson and McConaughey give two of their best performances ever, and that's saying something. Absolutely. Yeah, man, it was great. Let's watch this shit, because they sync

together gun shit with the music and I feel like this really like sells you on why the Punisher is the Punisher and like his Motivations and stuff and I dug this I watched in the car today on my phone. They synced it to music I feel like Hutch started that. Alright count it count it down count it down. Alright ready set play Alright, ready, set, play. He's a real good choice of actor for that role too. I agree. Excellent. Just imagine this is your family.

He's got a simple jack haircut in that shot. Is this an acoustic version of a Metallica 1? Oh my god, when is this coming out? I'm into it so far. It is, it was 1, yeah. I like that guy in Walking Dead. One of my favorite characters. If you like bullet shots syncing up to editing and music, you would like Baby Driver, Kyle.

I plan on seeing it. Solid. He's in good shape now. There he is. Solid He's in good shape now As part of a covert CIA operation Oh, they're doing like the full-on origin story, huh? Yeah Everybody's part of this Yes, behind me.

Everybody's heartless. Oh, it's the blonde girl from Daredevil. Yeah. You and me want the same thing. She's so hot. So worth it. She's so fucking hot in true blood. I want you, Dish. I'm gonna kill you.

I never saw you in real life. Yeah, I can live with that. It's worth just to see her in lingerie. Does he have powers, or is he Daryl? Uh, dude. He's Daryl. Oh, well then I'll watch this one. Yeah.

He's powerful. He's powering the grunts. You didn't see Daredevil Season 2, Taylor? You didn't see your family, Riz? No, I haven't seen Season 1 even. I don't really like superhero stuff that much, so I haven't kept up with it. Oh, sick. That was good. Yeah, but I like the heroes that don't have help um is there more i stopped oh okay i'll stop then i didn't want to

someone important but i don't like i like superheroes like batman and i guess this guy i don't know shit about punisher but if punisher doesn't have powers and he just and his whole thing is just like the world sucks and i'm the man to fix it and then he goes out there and starts blowing heads off you might like him he's an unusually good shot uh he's a very good fighter but i don't think he has even a lick of superpower he's just like he's super trained is what he is superpower is anger yeah and there's one more thing batman and batman v superman i have to my favorite part about Punisher is that he doesn't waste... There's very few monologues

in Punisher. If there's a guy who needs killing, there's no delay. He's judge, jury, and executioner. Kyle, do you disagree? I think I'm reading something. No? Oh, alright. I 100% agree. That's the kind of justice I want. I've always liked the Punisher.

I used to watch and go through all the Spider-Man stuff and he'd appear in that universe occasionally like he was trying to kill Spider-Man at one point but I like him because he is the ultimate anti-hero like what's going to be interesting to see them portray in here

is like think about if there was actually somebody rolling around with machine guns and shit murdering people you'd be like oh my god he's the DC sniper he'd be like that but times 10 you know who he is? he's John Wick he's got the training he's got the weapon accuracy

he's maybe an angrier John Wick he's the guy that showed up at Comet Pizza with an assault rifle looking for the kids no don't bring that guy in. That's a really funny, I didn't get it for a second, that's a funny comparison. Him just screaming at the pizza owner. Where are the children?

His name was his name was Seth Rich. His name was Seth Rich. Where's Hillary? I know she's here. Where is she? I read today on Reddit. I don't know if it was a gag on Reddit. I saw it on the conspiracy subreddit.

But they said that Hillary Clinton literally ordered pizzas from Comet Pizza for... I don't know what child group it was. And had them delivered there. It was bizarre to read. It was on our conspiracy, so you can definitely take it well salted. How much to order an extra large pizza with 11-year-old boys then I don't buy it?

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hang a man right you never saw him take the web make a little noose and toss a guy off a building and Like leave him hanging there as an example to the rest like he never took dr Octopus and fucking hung him off the Empire State Building so that, like, Shocker and the Rhino would think twice about the next time... Shocker and the Rhino? Those are two heroes' names? Yeah, those are two supervillains' names.

You never saw that shit go down. But the Punisher, that's exactly what he fucking does. He goes and wipes out entire crime families. He goes and just murders them all for for no lack of a better word and uh that's the kind of dark shit that i'm into and this is the one for me like i'm not gonna end up watching daredevil or iron fist or uh you might i was gonna call him duke nukem whatever his name is cage hold on a minute now daredevil season one daredevil season one especially, is honestly top notch.

There's this long cut. I don't know if you appreciate, but I do. Like, really long cuts. Like, where there's, the camera doesn't cut away. If you've ever seen Hard Boiled. Oh, like,

people were stazy movies? Yeah, it's almost worth watching that, like, seven minute action scene from Hard Boiled. If any of you out there, we won't do it because it'll slow the show down,

but if you're out there listening to this and you really want to see some cool shit just search hard boiled like shooting scene it's like seven minutes long i'm guessing and the whole thing is no cuts it's two guys going through a building and getting in a crazy gunfight and there are actual real explosions going on that are being triggered on cue there's no cgi it's incredible to see i don't like superheroes there's seen daredevil where all right so a child has been kidnapped by this russian mob he finds out where they are he's already been beating the fuck up he's all caught up he's he's a lesser version of himself this is not his good day

he rolls in there with rope wrapped tightly around each fist and he's just all right daredevil is fucking sick man and and his superpowers aren't really the kind of superpowers that you think of when you think like yeah it's like you know he's he's got more strength and agility because he can't see so it's not it's a it's a superpower technically but it's not and i think it kind of reveals more in season two right where he actually does have some kind of superpower right yeah yeah yeah i had to read i had to read up on daredevil because my daredevil experience was limited to like a couple episodes of spider man the cartoon and that atrocious movie uh that uh that uh aflac made and kevin smith was the director on that too what a too. What a travesty

and abortion of a movie. Oh, was that the one where the guy bullseye was throwing paperclips at people in some pizza restaurant, and he just kills the dude? That's not gonna kill you. One paperclip stuck in your neck, and then the guy just is bleeding out, and then everybody's

like, better not fuck with paperclip guy. You know what happened in real life? Everybody beats the shit out of paperclip guy wait he doesn't even have a gun he's got a handful of paperclips you know yeah well that that was meant to that was meant to highlight what his superpower was you know he's so good yeah and it's kind of ridiculous but like like especially daredevil season one like the the best part of that was the villain. Vincent D'Onofrio. Yeah, he was so good as Kingpin.

What's his real name again? Vincent D'Onofrio. No, what's the character's name? He's trying to beat me to the punch. He's real good, man. And Season 2 is when they introduce Daredevil, when they show you who that character is. And he's in, I want to say, probably like five or six episodes, and it's good stuff.

If you don't like traditional superhero stuff, you still may enjoy season one and season two. Here's why it's so good to me. I watched Wonder Woman, not last night, but the night before, and I liked it. It was good. It's the best effort from DC thus far, I think. The pacing was good. Gal Gadot is so goddamn attractive

that it's just hard not to enjoy watching that movie for me. You remember when people gave her shit, too, because they said she was too skinny? Dumb people. Yeah, but it's a superpower movie. It doesn't matter. Well, she's the daughter of Zeus and an Amazon.

She should be a little beefier for being real, but I'm okay with it. She killed it. But what I'm getting at is at no point, and I mean no point of that movie, was I ever worried about her. But every time Daredevil goes into a hallway, I'm like, I know

they're not going to kill Daredevil off, but they might kick his ass and take him prisoner and torture him a little. Isn't Wonder Woman's powers the exact same as Superman? It depends what version you're looking at. If they both fought, would it be

a stalemate because they both are indestructible? Nah, Superman would win. Yeah, Superman would kill her. Well, then, what is the difference? She just can't fly and is, like, weaker than... She can't shoot lasers through her eyes and she can't fly, but they're comparably strong, I believe. Yeah, yeah. They're comparably strong, I believe. Yeah, yeah.

They're comparably strong, although it depends on which comic. You can go online and there's mathematical equations for exactly how strong Superman is. That is beyond autistic. It's not. It is absolutely not, and here's why. They base their equations on feats that he has performed within the

canon material. So if they tell you that he has performed within the canon material. So if they tell you that he lifted an asteroid that was three miles across, you can determine the weight of said asteroid, right? How do you know the asteroid composition? I mean, there's a lot of variant densities of asteroids. It's an aggregate asteroid composition. There is a margin of error. Why are you arguing?

You know what? You're talking math, and we we got to make sure that it's correct yeah like there's a whole youtube channel that breaks this shit down and i saw them comparing like goku uh with uh with superman and they got they're like well superman can bench press 10 quadrillion pounds and goku's more like four quadrillion tons or like whatever and they break all this shit down for like super nerdy people who have that much time to spare, but I would recommend Daredevil, definitely, but I'm really excited about The Punisher. I'm not as intrigued by superheroes

that I wouldn't trade places with, given the option. If someone was like, hey, this is Daredevil, Taylor and I introduced each other, do you want to trade bodies and you can be the Daredevil superhero? I'm like, is this guy a blind individual? They're like, like yeah he has to fold his money up weird or some shit and they're like oh yeah no i'm good i'm not gonna do that and if they were

like uh the x-man who has laser eyes that he can't even control and all he does is like open his eyes and causes mass destruction and death if they offered me to switch with that guy hard pass his name is scott summers not some guy scott summers that's right he is a he is the number one cuckold in the uh in the marvel universe because wolverine was always sliding in there and getting that jean gray pussy wolverine was always fucking his girl that was always a major like issue in the in the in the storyline, was that there was this love triangle with Jean Grey, Wolverine, and Scott Summers. I always wondered as a kid, was it worth it to be Wolverine, just because every time the claws came out, it hurt like a motherfucker.

You know? And not let anybody know. I'd have to get them out at parties and shit. Can you imagine? Wait, did you guys see logan yeah i loved it oh my god it's one of my favorite movies this year it was a good movie he's a much diminished version of himself for taylor's benefit and it's a it's a bit it's a it's like an x-men movie mixed with a western is it before he gets uh oh yeah it's more of a western than anything

else yeah what was your question taylor it's before he gets the adamantium skeleton no way after so like he's not he's not immortal because he ages but he just ages a lot slower than everybody else so by the time we meet up with him and logan he's like a beaten down old man he's finished by the virus right see the corporations have been putting that stuff in the corn syrup and and getting rid of all the Mutants so he's been diminished by that like severely. That's why such a weakened version of himself can't stay away from Pepsi Kenny Just drink some water that fucking Wolverine We've been talking about superheroes for a while, but I have my own example of vigilante justice from uh from last weekend oh yes all right everybody stand up straight get your collar on pop it taylor's got a story

yeah this uh so last weekend me and my dad and my stepmom were driving down to meet up with a bunch of people mostly family for the mizzougate. It was one of the first tailgates, and we were all going there. And so it was supposed to be a fun day. My dad wakes me, or I get over there, and I sleep the whole way in the car until we get to the parking garage. And we quickly realize, as we're six levels up in this parking garage, like, shit,

this place might be entirely full. And then we started seeing those cars come back around and pass us, and we're like, fuck, we're screwed. We're going to have to try and find somewhere else in the city. And then as we're taking one of those turns, we look straight ahead, and we see a tall, lanky college student and a recycling bin with those four circles that you can put plastic cups and stuff into.

And he was just standing right in the middle of a spot. And my dad stopped. We're probably 30 feet from him. And my dad goes that is that just a regular spot like taylor is that just normal spot and i kind of like looked around i'm like yeah that's just a normal that's just a normal spot and he goes well get out and move that kid and i was like okay and so i opened the door in the back and i lean out and i'm like hey is that a handicapped spot like i was trying to be polite as a way of saying like hey we're clearly interested in being in this spot that you're just standing in cuz cuz you're disobeying the rule the

conduct of society right now and he goes no it's not a handicapped and I was like okay we're gonna park there and he goes I can't I'm saving it I'm like no it's not how this works and my dad said uh, Taylor, go move that kid in that trash can. And so I got out of the car. This guy's probably three inches taller than me, four inches taller than me, but very lean. I'm like, I'm twice as broad as him. And I walk over to him and I'm like, dude, we're taking this spot. Like, that's the way this is going to go.

It's going to happen. You can't just reserve spots like this. And he's like, I'm a pledge at a fraternity. I i'm gonna be in so much trouble if they don't let me save this spot please just don't take this spot and i'm like dude i don't care i don't fucking care and i started dragging away the uh the recycling bin away out of the spot and he grabbed the other side of it and like gave it a little tug and i quickly was like no no and i put it over to the side and he's still standing there and I'm like dude please move we're gonna park here like it that's the way it's gonna go and

he's like oh I bet you feel like you're a big guy right now you know bullying someone who's you know a freshman in college and I'm like dude I don't want to be doing this I don't want this to happen I don't want to be in this position this is uncomfortable as shit there are people mind you this is before a giant football game in an SEC school, so we are not alone in this parking garage. Lots of people walking around as this is happening. And the guy, I give him a very gentle push of the arm, not a shove, just trying to usher him out like a crowd out of the way

to let my dad pull in safely. And he bucks up and he gets all you know i'm not moving i'm not moving you know you're you're this is ridiculous i'm gonna be in so much trouble he kept yelling that i'm gonna be in so much trouble if you take the spot for me i have to reserve it for my frat and i was like no no you don't get to just reserve spots in public places that's not how this works and so i i bear grabbed the guy around, and I pulled him to the side of the spot, and I thought that was enough because then my dad started inching forward, and I was like, okay, the kid knows that he's been beaten, and so I let him go,

and he sprints back into the spot right up against my dad's bumper as my dad's like two feet into the spot, and he's standing there not letting my dad pull in all the way. And I was like, dude, come on. Like, I don't want to have to do this. You are making me do this right now. Like, you can't just reserve spots like this. And so I went over.

I picked him up again as he struggled minimally. Not a very strong gentleman. And I carried him over and then just held him for the next six seconds or so as my dad finished pulling in. And then I let him go, of course, because I don't actually want to be doing this. And he turns around at me and he's all, oh, I bet you feel like a big man. Bet you feel like a big man holding me while you take the spot. I'm like, no, dude, like I just am here for a football game. Like I don't want any of this.

This is so uncomfortable. Do you not see how many fucking people are looking at us? And my dad and my stepmom are still getting out of the car. And he goes, yeah, well, I'm real glad i know where you parked and then i i had like a a public like freak out on the guy to the point that i could tell it was like when a dad yells at a kid how scared he was where we're like it was resonating through the parking garage and i'm like did you just fucking threaten me do you just threaten my property in this parking garage? Are you fucking kidding me?

What fraternity are you in? What's your name? What's your name? And he's like, settle down, dude. I'm not going to do anything to your car. I'm not going to do anything to your car, I promise. I'm like, oh, after you threaten me, do I need to make sure you go down there and stay away from this car? And my dad got out, and he walks up, and he goes, click, click.

He goes, all right, now I know who to talk about if anything happens to this car and then took a picture of the guy and then i just grabbed the cooler and left that was it it was so yeah that's vigilante justice i would say yeah absolutely yeah i hate that i've i didn't know that was a real thing i I've seen YouTube videos of that, of those people who do that, who try to stand in a parking space. It's not like a seat at the movie theater. That's not – you can't do that. These are for vehicles. And it's –

It's rude to, on a busy day, just say, oh, I'm going to save this parking spot. I can just save this like it's a seat at the movies or a restaurant. Like, no, dude. That's not how society works. You don't just get to save parking spots for your friend, your drunk idiot frat boy friend to show up later. No, and if I have to carry you away, that's the way it's going to be. But we're getting this spot. Do you think you would have freaked out on him as much if it weren't for, you know, your your cycle that you're on? Do you think that you

got a little bit of of roid rage? Maybe maybe that could be it you know i just so when my dad said hey get that guy out of the spot i just thought oh this is what we play for no taylor how much how much weight have you gained in like the last year how long have you been how long have you been hitting the gym uh really hard for like between six and seven months. Really? Yeah. I've put on quite a bit of time. Damn, dude. What, did you hire a trainer or what did you, how did you do that? I just did YouTube and bodybuilding.com research and then bought kettlebell weights for my house and got a, uh, a bench and then just started doing that.

See, now I would love to put on some masks but like my appetite i gotta tell you despite how much marijuana i despite my marijuana intake it does not help like i can't imagine eating as much food as i would need to eat because like where where my height and weight is i would need to eat like between 2500 and 3000 calories every day and me, that, that to me is like, I want to vomit just thinking about eating that much food. I do a ton of protein shakes. Does your stomach, does your stomach like expand eventually to allow for more food to get in there? Or like, how does that even work? Honestly, like the amount of normal food that I eat hasn't increased that much. It's just, I'm eating better food. And then i do a lot of protein shakes because

if i were to just eat chicken to the point that i hit 200 grams of protein a day it would be it would be so much chicken i'd feel sick constantly and so i just eat a normal amount of food and then drink about i drink two double protein shakes a day so that's 120 grams of protein i get just from that and then i try to eat about 80 grams. Like oatmeal oats and peanut butter and that kind of stuff? A lot of turkey bacon, a lot of vegetables, very bland chicken, ground turkey,

steaks. I can't eat that much. I just can't. It's a lot of fun. The first part of working out and we all are doing a fitness thing right now. Woody has had to transition to just doing the diet part of the fitness because of his foot but you're still sticking on with that which is a win actually uh how are you doing with that by the way i i like to think i'm exactly the same i did weigh in one pound higher uh over the

five weeks i've been injured and uh but you know one pound like bodies fluctuate but so i'm either the same or one pound up i'm not sure yeah that's no pain hey i mean i think we said going into it that if you leave the same weight you were then that's a win in and of itself because yeah yeah i'm i i so i spend an hour a day in the pool as a minimum and i usually find like 30 or 40 minutes of some other kind of pt to do so uh that's where I am. I hope to be walking next week. That's good. Taylor, what's, what, uh, what testosterone booster did you get? Oh yeah. This ties back into the, uh, the minoxidil hair thing we started a while ago.

Yeah. So, so Kyle was obviously saying with Chiz and Chiz has been under the table doing hair growth treatments, I guess. And So I bought that because I thought it would be a funny bit if I also did a beard growth treatment. Kyle said he's getting testosterone pills so I just bought Evolution Nutrition ones off Amazon.

It's like $23 or something. I don't know which ones are good. I just looked at the reviews because I figured if Kyle's going to take it I'm going to take it too. I gotta say I'm disappointed that none of you guys picked up any of alex jones supplements i'm on the broth all 24 7 something you have to know about our fitness regimen around here and and the fact remains that bone broth is the only way to stop it bone broth is the only patented... I'm not trying as hard as I can to turn red.

She's right. I need to turn redder. I wish there was an alternate universe where I could see Taylor with and without the supplements. Because all I did is clean up my diet and start kettlebellying. Taylor's kettlebellying harder than me. He's getting better results, obviously.

But how much of it is the creatine? And will he go next level when he goes on testosterone, if that's what that's called? I don't even know. I'm projecting that this is going to do absolutely nothing. Absolutely wrong. But the thing I can't tell is making a difference is just fucking eating so much protein. Like, just so much more than you think you need. How do you know that it's that and not the creatine?

Oh, it could be the creatine. But the creatine, all that really does is make it so your muscle cells can hold more water so that they can rehydrate and heal themselves better. And so you have to be drinking a ton of water when you're on creatine to stay healthy. But there's nothing in creatine that makes it magic or anything. It's just the most common supplement. But it's just like uh the most common uh supplement but it's definitely doing something i think like i or i wouldn't continue to use it if i didn't think it was working i guess is what i'm saying does does your uh do your pills smell incredibly strong and chemically oh yeah yeah all right we got yeah same same formula how much do you want

me to take every day they want me to take four of these fucking horse pills. Look, let me tell you something. I've got a gag reflex just looking at that. No, bullshit. That's not nearly enough. Let me tell you how many you actually want to take. It says on the brick seat. Yeah, it's that.

Fuck that. You're a man. I mean, if you're a pregnant woman, don't. Do you want to know the actual trick, the marketing trick, why they say things like that? Tell me. It's not because there's any danger to it. It's the same reason that for commercials like Hydroxycut,

they'll say, this is not a product if you just need to lose five pounds. If you need to lose five pounds, this product is not for you. If you're looking to lose more than 50 pounds, that's intentionally meant so that people who only need to lose five pounds go, fuck, if this is for people who need to lose 50 pounds, I'm going to lose it in no time. And then those are the people who purchase it the most. So that's just a clever little thing. If I took this whole bottle right now, I'd pee really yellow and that would be it.

Yes. So what you want to do is you want to take three twice a day instead of two twice a day. And when your pee turns, it won't turn yellow. It's going to turn green. And when your pee turns green, you'll know that you're at maximum absorption. Alright? And things are all good then, okay?

That's when you've truly become an ubermensch at that point. I don't know if I want my testosterone to expire. I'm not even kidding about this. Your pee is going to turn green. What color green though? Is it one of those greens that some people call yellow? No, it is absolutely not.

It is the kind of green that you'd call someone in to show. It is like light. It is like Kool-Aid. I'm not sure if I want a photo of this on your Instagram. I have an Instagram account. I forgot to shout it out when Harley told me, you need 10,000 followers on Instagram and you'll get all the pussy you ever want. Or he said something.

STL underscore Taylor. Follow me on Instagram, everybody. All right. Anyway, I'm hoping that the hair growth thing takes off more because the funniest, like for me, result would be, I start applying it and it gets just beyond thick and it starts working great and it doesn't work for Kyle and Jizz. Yeah, yeah. For the bit.

In terms of the bit, if you wanted to, you could not shave, like, the neck and above it and just come in Wolfman. No, I hate the way I look when I let my upper cheek hair come in. I didn't say it would improve your look. I said it'd be funny. You got to keep it somewhat, you know, somewhat. As funny as the bit is, and I was on board at first,

but, like, after I'd already received the stuff, then I started researching side effects and stuff. And, like, look, I just talked about putting so much testosterone stuff. The hair, the minoxidil. But I'm the guy who's talking about putting so much T-booster in your system, you piss green. And yet, like the side effects of the minoxidil seem to be weight gain, which who cares? I personally don't. I'm pretty light.

And B, it was like rapid heart rate. And oh, God, there was another bad one there was a bad one like shortness of breath that was it and when i hear rapid heart rate and shortness of breath combined yeah like i'm like ah i don't i don't want that shit that that sounds bad so like i'm gonna let as soon as chis tells me as soon as chis shows up and he looks like that fucking uh the giants bane guy from from game of thrones with just a fucking leonidas beard that's just mighty as fuck then i'll start rubbing it in real good on my face twice a day which is what you're supposed to do but i'm honestly concerned about those side effects

in particular because it's a legitimate like chemical like there's no like like there's some argument about what's in here and what's not i i everything i keep reading says that there's some argument about what's in here and what's not. Everything I keep reading says that there's trace amounts of actual fucking steroids in here. And if you were to be, like, if you were. What is yours called? Mine is T-Bomb 3 Extreme, which is a brand that I've always. It's the brand I've always used. It used to be just T-Bomb. And when we took it as, like, when we were 18 18 or 19 i can honestly say the side effects were

i was definitely more aggressive i just was i was i was in a but in a bad mood kind of aggressive i'm being honest and the number one thing was i was sweaty i was when i worked out i would just break a i would be like glistening and dripping sweat. And my cousin and I were working out the same amount, both of us, but I was taking this $80 bottle of pills and he was not. And I just got stronger than him. I was markedly stronger than him throughout our workouts. If he was benching 175, I was benching 195. It was a marked difference where we would take weight off so he could do it

so are you yours is 80 a bottle i don't remember what this was to be honest but when i was buying it back then it was because we'd have to drive i'd drive 25 miles or something that's the nearest gnc at the time there wasn't one local and i i would buy these things and it was like i was 18 so it was like i was like shit's $80 worth of fucking pills. But the guy at GNC, who I'd probably get in a commission, he was like, yeah, that stuff actually does something. Because that was our question when we walked in. It was like, what actually works?

And he was like, creatine and protein work, and a lot of people swear by this stuff. And so we bought creatine, protein, and this stuff. Yeah, my stuff isn't going to be nearly as good it's only 23 so i gotta uh make some dinner here pretty soon but i was hoping to get one topic in yeah if you guys don't mind uh before before we before we finish this thing out you guys are going to go a little bit longer after I leave, right? Yeah, we're going four hours. We'll be on until 10. Four hours every podcast? Yeah, man.

Every time. How do you have the energy to do a four-hour podcast every week? I guess it doesn't take that much. It's because we're taking our stops around. No, I wanted to talk about healthcare real quick because it's back in the news these days. because it's back in the news these days. I just wanted to give Taylor and Kyle an opportunity to sell me on why the profit motive should dictate health care in the United States. Why did we decide that the profit motive isn't appropriate

in governing things like police departments and fire departments but it is the right call for health care I don't that's that's my question first of all I disagree with that point I wish that police departments and fire departments were for-profit but but that's a separate issue I do believe the health care should be free it's not around here we have volunteer fire departments, and they come house to house, and we all give them a large check every year. A couple hundred bucks.

Make sure they come to your house in a hurry, right? I think that all Americans should have free healthcare. And I think that the way that we still have an impetus there for pharmaceutical companies, big pharma, to move forward with innovations and for them to put capital out there at risk to do the research and development

that spawns new innovation in pharmaceuticals, in medical sciences, in nanotechnology and everything else. We have to profit from the other countries, all right? This is America uh health care plan that i'm thinking of like we charge everybody else a premium but we there should be i'm confused what you're saying i'm saying that we should all get free health care i i think that it should be a basic human right not a human right basic american right and that's just my opinion it just i i i've seen too many people who are who can't afford health care uh i've seen too many people who can't afford healthcare. I've seen too many people.

And maybe there should be some regulations. There should be some rules. One thing to say is the healthcare versus health insurance thing, those often get confused. You can have insurance and still not have access to healthcare. For example, lots of people are on Medicare, and more and more and more doctors every day are saying, no, I don't get enough government reimbursement, so I'm not taking on Medicare customers. So you can say, hey, I'm covered. I got Medicare. But there's still no health care, even though you have the health insurance.

And so I think the free market is the best solution for it because similar to pretty much everything else, the more variety and the more competition you inject into something, the more you're going to have plans and packages that are competitive. And you want to get rid of things that don't allow companies to work across state lines, for example. So if you're stuck in Kentucky and it's like, well, goddammit, they have a plan in Arkansas that would be really good for me, but I can't purchase it because I live in Kentucky. I'm stuck with this shit one. That doesn't help. The more free it is, and of course that doesn't mean do whatever the fuck you want.

There's still government regulation that's needed. But for the most part, when you allow companies to make different plans, like for example, Obamacare forced pretty much every policy to cover things that someone like me or Kyle or Hutch or Woody wouldn't need to pay for. I don't need pediatric dental care. I don't need birth control. I don't need a lot of these things that they say now you need all of these on your plans. And the reason for that is so that I can subsidize people who can't otherwise afford for their health insurance, which by the way, doesn't mean just because they have insurance doesn't mean they're getting proper care, if good care at all. And so I just think it reflects on pretty much every other aspect of our society

where it's like, hey, when you want something that's cheaper, higher quality, and you want to overall increase the supply, you want competition. You know, I feel like the single payer thing, especially is taking basically our current supply of healthcare and attempting to redistribute it while not incentivizing any expansion or improvements because there's no incentive to. We have the best doctors on earth. Anyone who lives across the world and they want surgery and they can afford it, they come here because we have the highest quality healthcare.

You can have, I think it's Ben Shapiro, probably fucking Ben Shapiro says it. He says you can have universality, you can have affordability, or you can have quality. And you only have two of those things. So you can have really shit health care that everybody has. Like, I mean, you can already see this happening in the UK, Japan, Canada, where rationing is going on. Just like that Charlie Gard story a couple months ago where the government said in the UK, no, you can't take your son out of here, and no, we're not going to continue treatment because the panel decided, no, we're no longer going to fund this because we don't see it.

Let him, quote, die with dignity. That's pretty fucking Orwellian. I agree with everything you just said. What I'm aiming at and what I said is more about the eventuality, what occurs. I think that every american should have as much health care forget health insurance just forget that i'm as much health care as they need right well everybody wants that yeah yeah yeah that and and whatever it takes to get that i'm for that but but i agree with everything you just said like that's the thing with like the both sides i think

too often we put imposed motive on the other side when it's like, I genuinely, I truly believe, sincerely, that both sides want people to have health care. They want the highest quality thing. There are just wildly different points of view on how distribute it correctly. And the other side thinks, no, let people make their own decisions, and these companies are going to compete to the point that that drives the price down as it does, you know, unless that there are regulations across state lines. That happens with internet companies, where you're forced into one company because of regulations that the government says, oh, same thing with EpiPen, you know, where EpiPen was so expensive over here, not because of some, you know, it was corporate greed on behalf of EpiPen, sure. But what facilitated that was the fact that the government said, all right,

those epinephrine pen manufacturers in the UK and Germany and Japan and whatever, they can no longer import here. And so then that facilitated that greed on behalf of that corporation, EpiPen, you know? So the question I have is, is when you have a country like the United States, where I think over half of everybody that lives in the United States is living paycheck to paycheck, if I'm not mistaken, I'm just pulling this out of my ass. I'm pretty sure I read something recently that suggested that. Would it really surprise any of us in this Skype call if that were the case? But assuming that's the case, assuming that's the case that over half of people that live in the United States live paycheck to paycheck. What do you do when people can't afford care? What do you do? Because you can't just walk into an oncology ward and say, hey, give me chemo. That's not how it works. They're going to bill you. They're going

to ask for some form of insurance or cash payment or something. They're not going to just hook you up to an IV or walk you out of the hospital with a prescription for something. You need money to get that done. So are we actually suggesting that we let people die so that the free market can spawn innovation? I mean, first of all, I think it's not totally fair to say just let people die. It's not like people were dying in the streets before 2012. And also, there's very little evidence that shows access to Medicare actually improves livelihood or life expectancy because you can have, like I said, great insurance from Medicare for all. to Medicare. But I have insurance. Yeah, you do. And we don't accept it here because we don't get reimbursed to the extent that it makes it viable for us. And so it's just another one of those

things where it's like, yeah, in thought, you want everybody to have insurance. But practically, that insurance doesn't necessarily correlate to the care that you need. Well, the Graham-Cassidy bill, the one that they're trying to vote on in the next couple weeks, they allow states to decide whether or not they're going to keep or maintain existing protections for uh pre-existing conditions that came about as a result of the affordable care act so i i uh i lost my train of thought you guys uh was it about crossing state lines the graham bill that's coming up in the next couple weeks where the states can opt? Right. So, there's a couple problems. I just have a problem, like, really. What you said about Medicare, too, as far as it's

the evidence being lacking that it leads to a longer life, that's actually really disputed. I've read a bunch of articles on both sides, so I'm not sure that that's established fact. I'm sure you can find a lot of people that will say that Medicare saved their life. I don't know. You guys, I just have a really difficult time wrapping my head around this idea of just letting people stay sick because they can't afford care. That to me seems like the Republicans wrap it in this package like we're giving you more freedom to decide, but for a lot of people, what they're giving them the freedom to do is not afford coverage. It doesn't matter if they have more freedom. If you only have $500 extra money each month out of your paycheck that's not going towards bills or your kid's school or clothes or food or other basic necessities, then what's the point of having more freedom?

Like – yeah, anyways. I understand where you're coming from. Nobody wants people to die. Yeah, nobody wants people to die except like – what about the people who have done something to them? It's self-inflicted what the reason that they need to spend money. Like obesity or alcoholism or something like that? That's exactly the one. Obesity and alcoholism.

If someone comes in and they're incredibly overweight, and because of that, they have some extremely expensive thing that needs to be fixed like like i just don't want to pay for that i don't it's a slippery slope though right because it's the premise that we're just everything's self-inflicted to some extent almost right i mean you could definitely argue my broken leg was self-inflicted one chicken leg at a time you did that i don't know that that happened like this i know i'm responsible for my decisions though right i mean it every surfer every extreme sport guy every paraglider every hang glider every i don't know like pick your poison right mma training dude here's the difference though like when you eat that chicken leg you know it's making you fatter there's no fucking doubt

you're getting fatter but when you drive your, or when you step outside of the safety of your home, or when you fly through the air, that... the expectations are safety. That is what the... if you thought that 100% like, yeah, I'm gonna break my leg today, because that's just what happens when you fly, that's a different story. If you broke your leg doing jackass stunts working for the film jackass well i don't know if we're going to cover that bucko sorry johnny you're going to have to be putting those catheters in and paying for yourself but every time you eat that chicken like a hundred percent guaranteed you are absorbing those calories unless you develop a very healthy government-sponsored eating disorder i hear

you all i'm throwing out is there's a slippery slope counter argument to be made on that. On the capitalism thing that Taylor was saying, I mean, my listeners have heard this before. I feel like capitalism solves 99.9% of problems. I like it for almost everything, but there's a few. We mentioned the fire department. I swear, like if your house is worth 300,000 and the fire department says, ah, we'll save it for 250, then you're like, yeah, I guess we got a deal. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not a great plan.

You know, it's way better to have a government run fire department, I think. Police department, especially, right? There's an area where I don't think capitalism works very well. Otherwise. I disagree with Kyle on that. Okay. Otherwise, they wouldn't serve the poor very well. And it would be a very unequal justice system, worse than now. And you go to health care and i i

feel the same way you know like you're dealing with people under such duress who will pay anything who will mortgage their entire future until the day they die right you know if they say look we can solve your kids cancer but it's a million dollars and that to you is a lifetime of earnings you'll probably be like yeah i i guess i'm scheduled for this lifetime that's what i'll be buying. And some people treat it like it's this big mystery how you would fund something like that. It's pretty straightforward.

You tax the rich. Some people don't like hearing that, but you tax the rich. And when you look at real wages over the last 30 years and compare that to CEOs' wages and you see how much wages have stagnated for the middle class and how much that middle class is shrinking over the last several decades, I don't feel bad asking for the wealthiest 1% in this country to be taxed more to subsidize

this sort of thing. There's another thing I wanted to get out there. These consumers and these workers have made these CEOs and wealthy businessmen and bankers rich for centuries now. So I don't think it's too much to ask. I am on the same page as that. And that's what Obamacare did to some extent. They taxed the rich and redistributed that money to health care for everybody else. The crossing state lines thing. And just so people know the counter argument, we've seen it with banks, right? If you look at all the banks, they're based in like Delaware, or Charlotte is another

big one, and it's because those states have really favorable laws for the banks. If you want to base your bank in like Missouri, I'm not even sure about that one, then they may have laws that protect the consumer a lot more than Delaware, so I'm not founding my bank in Missouri. That would be ludicrous. That's the same thing with healthcare. And the problem with healthcare, a lot like financial instruments, is that it's so complicated. I don't know.

I think I'm a pretty smart guy. And I've read a lot of college level stuff in my lifetime. And if you hand me my healthcare plan, I feel like I still might not get it. I might not understand what it is, the difference between a Missouri plan and a North Carolina plan, and I could get fucked. And there are other people, this is so arrogant, who aren't as smart as me who will definitely get fucked.

So that's the state line counter-argument. I mean, another argument to the state line thing is, like, that doesn't mean that all banks are based out of Delaware. Like, Missouri is a market, and there are lots of banks here, just using Missouri as the example. Where there is business, businessmen will find ways to make money and provide a service as long as there's someone there to buy it. And that's just my point, is that if there's incentive of these companies to compete with one another, they'll go, hey, these people with pre-existing conditions, that's a market we want to get. We'll make a high-risk pool for those people, and we'll have plans specific for them. Oh, what about young white guys or young women or whatever, and theirs isn't as expensive, and so we'll make a custom-tailored plan for them that's cheaper and

better. It's just a matter of forcing these companies to provide. And I mean, you can tell that the insurance companies aren't they don't like it. They pull out all the time out of states. And that's part of the reason they were able to provide these in the first place to some people is because of the billions of dollars they got in in bailouts from Obama, because basically they were paying for them to be able to provide those plans that were otherwise economically not feasible. Because it's not bailouts's the thing with pre... Sorry. And the thing with pre-existing conditions, like, it's not nice, but it is a fact of life that a pre-existing condition,

like, if I'm buying home insurance, if my house burns down, I can't then go buy home insurance. Because then I'm just purchasing the reconstruction of a home for the price of an insurance claim. And lots of people are just going to go, why the fuck? And it's not not are going to, lots of people do say, why the fuck would I pay for any premium

whatsoever when I can walk in, get a policy that covers my preexisting condition and just have someone else foot the bill for it? And that definitely is a problem with this. Well, I understand. I understand the free market explanation for why covering something like a pre-existing condition should cost more. But I'm saying that that totally divorces us from the humane aspect of this conversation. Is it right to let someone wither away because they can't afford? A lot of these people, if they don't have the kind of protections that they're getting now,

they're not going to go to the doctor. They're not going to go to the doctor for years because they're afraid of what the doctor is going to tell them. So they're just going to get even sicker, even faster because they're so terrified of becoming destitute because they have some kind of preexisting condition. There's two behaviors that insurance companies did. Um,

that's going to become possible if Graham Cassidy passes. One of them is the pre-existing condition thing. And what would happen is, like, you'd get cancer, right? Now I've got leukemia. The insurance companies would scramble to find a way that I had some indicator of leukemia. I'll make it up. Like, oh, he had that mole looked at two years earlier. He's had leukemia this whole time we're

calling that a pre-existing condition and we're not covering it and you're like fuck you know like and that happened that happened all the time bacne was a was a classic one people would have back acne and they would be like that's a cancer indicator this is a pre-existing condition you're fucked and and that's dirty the other thing is you'd sit there and you pay your premiums reliably for 15 years and that would be a thing. And then you'd get sick, and they'd be like, ooh, he's a sickie. Let's quintuple his price, because

we know that what he has is going to make him expensive this year. And under Obamacare, that became illegal. You could only raise somebody's plan X percent or whatever. But under Graham-Cassidy, it will become legal again. They can just charge you premiums forever, and then if you get sick, then they can either price you out to where you can't afford health insurance or price you up to where you don't, like, what's the purpose of it?

Yeah. Or lifetime caps too. If you reach like a million dollar threshold, then they're not going to cover you for the rest of that, for the rest of your costs. I guess it just, I mean, we're facing down this question and say what you will about Obama, say what you will about Bernie, but they've both done a really good job of thrusting this issue into the mainstream. People like Michael Moore tried to do it as well. Hillary Clinton tried to do it for a lot of years too. But the question that we need to ask ourselves is, are we going to let sick people get sicker or are we going to let sick people die? I think another good question to ask is how do we provide the best possible

healthcare to as many people as possible? Like, and I think that that, I'd rather have long lines than no coverage. I would, I, me personally, I would rather have both sides are trying to answer.

I would rather have long lines than, than, than no coverage. And that's just a conspiracy thing, right? I feel like the Graham-Cassidy bill specifically, a lot of what it does is just give insurance companies the tools to fuck

people, right? That's what it is. Oh, does a guy get sick? You can raise his premium as much as you want. Oh, pre-existing conditions. Let's bring that back around. If you can find a way to slither out of covering him, then that tool is back in your toolbox. A lot of what's happening with this

stuff is they're just arming insurance companies with the tools not to cover people. You're kind of making it seem like before 2012 it was just this travesty of people dying in the streets and nobody had insurance or healthcare. The overwhelming majority of people with healthcare don't get it through the

individual market. They get it through the individual market. They get it through their employer. Right. Yeah. Well, not everybody had employers back then that would have provided that sort of thing. And there's problems with a lot of – That's an anti-capitalism argument, too. I hate that. I hate the idea – like I might still be working at Cisco if I had to get my health insurance through my company, right?

You're anti-entrepreneur in my mind if you're saying, hey, hey you know what you get it through your paternalistic fortune 500 company now you're stuck there being a way you know well sometimes you don't really have a choice if you got a family to feed you do what you got to do to get by I mean so that's also just kind of having a job like you know and that way like getting it but you're stuck like I think individuals should be able to get the same kind of deals roughly that companies get. Oh, yeah, because the individuals can't collectively bargain, you know, like, whereas Cisco could. Yeah. So if you put some structure in place that says, all right, the rule is you can't fuck individuals that hard,

then that's regulation that maybe I could get behind. Oh, there's definitely, definitely like a middle ground here. I'm not saying that, oh, fuck all regulation and just know that the corporations are going to take care of us. Like, of course not. That's ridiculous. Like, regulation is needed by the government in lots of aspects of life. It's just a matter of... I talked earlier about how, hey, North Korea,

like, sometimes there's no right answer to me. It's not obvious. You know, whatever goes down there, even if it's war, I might be like, his arm was twisted. If Hillary won, the same thing could have happened. I'm not sure. But with this, I feel like there's a right and wrong answer here, right?

It's like, hey, let's put a bill forward that lowers taxes on the rich and gives insurance companies the tool to screw people. I'm like, this isn't a two-sided issue to me. There are lots of issues that are, this isn't. I think you're kind of downplaying people that didn't have coverage before, Taylor, because there were absolutely people that

withered on the vine and the system totally failed them. And there were people like that in the UK and Canada and Japan, all over the place. Or that were trapped in their jobs, right? There are people who may have had the means to retire if they had... People in Canada and Japan get better healthcare the place. Or that were trapped in their jobs, right? There are people who may have had the means to retire. People in Canada and Japan get better healthcare coverage than we do. That's just an established fact.

You draw this distinction between quality and availability, but by the same token, just because you had to wait three weeks to see a doctor or two weeks to see a doctor or something like that, you still saw a doctor. I'd rather see a... It's often months and months and that. You still saw a doctor. I'd rather see it. It's often months and months and months. You're talking about major

surgeries, but this idea that... Just go on Twitter and ask people in Canada. Well, I don't know. Your followers might be a different political leaning. Careful on Twitter. You've got to be careful every time you're like, ask your followers this or that.

I think if you looked at the population satisfaction with healthcare coverage in places like France and England and Canada and Japan, I'm sure that a majority of them will say, yes, we like this system. We want to keep it in place. But you can already see the problems that crop up from these sort of systems where they're more and more rationing care. I think we'll have a cumulative effect if everyone from birth has health care. If everyone from birth has health care and man, you want to talk about the times when we let people wither away and die.

If you don't show up for your mandatory checkups which are scheduled every i don't know when but a doctor would decide the surgeon general perhaps if you don't show up for your mandatory checkups you're not covered you didn't show the fuck up but if from birth every six to eight months you went and saw a medical professional and he caught your cancer at the very beginning he caught your diabetes just at you he caught your cancer at the very beginning. He caught your diabetes just before. He caught your early onset diabetes at a point where it can be curbed away. And so now you're no longer the guy who needs insulin daily. You're the guy whose diet

was fixed. Yeah. Then you have a cumulative effect. It would be a big loser initially, but eventually you'll have a cumulative effect where we have these... Let me keep going here. Please let me finish. Not only would'll have a cumulative effect where we have these not only not let me let me i know let me keep going here let me let let's please let me finish not only would you have a a healthier population but you would but through that you would have a higher gdp your population would

be more productive through that health you would have fewer sick people and there would be more money to feed right back into that loop i also also don't like the premise that like this, the assumption that I see from a lot of people's perspective, from a lot of people that talk to me through social media, that's where I talk to most people. The perspective is people that rely on social safety nets are inherently lazy. That is the assumption. I don't think that's true. Well, that's what I see a lot. I don't know if that's the general vibe out there, but that's what I see a lot. There are a lot of

people that have the assumption that if someone needs something like food stamps or welfare or subsidized healthcare or housing or something like that, it's because they fucked up. And I just don't see how that's productive to think that way or to assume that about people. You're totally ignoring things like injury, natural disaster, disease.

All these things can totally upend someone's life financially and otherwise to the point where they're not able to take care of themselves. Being a fucking idiot is only one way you might end up like that. But you're right. Most of those people, I don think are, are just so lazy. They can't, they decide not to do stuff. Like I don't, maybe,

maybe people do think that, but I was going to say, go Kyle's plan of mandatory. I'm not too far. I mostly like it, but I do think maybe like I'm picturing men with like right here, taking you to the doctor. If we could swap that with just a fine,

you know, maybe every six to the doctor, if we could swap that with just a fine, you know, maybe we could. Also, every six to eight months, dude, how busy is every doctor's office on the planet going to be for the people who actually need the pain? No, no, no, you don't go to a doctor's office. The doctor comes to your workplace. Oh, my God, so we're going back? You remember that episode of Seinfeld?

Remember when Mr. Kruger needed that mole checked out? Well, Dr. Van Nostrand just showed the fuck up. He came in there, checked out that mole, gave him the A-OK, and it was all good. Longer wait times and more crowded hospitals and clinics are going to be a fact of life any time you say, hey, we'll also cover you guys. All you 30 million people, we'll cover you as well. That just needs to be an acceptable premise if we're going to operate under the assumption that everybody in this country should be taken care of. Not we should give you money so you can just

sit on your couch and do nothing all day, but just make sure that you have the most essential healthcare benefits that every person needs. You know, everybody spends $700 billion a year on defense, okay? I don't know what we spend on healthcare, but let's make that $700 billion work for us, right? Where'd you get that number? Where'd you get that number? $700 billion on the border fence?

No, no, no. No, no, it's the military. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's a big fucking fence. It's a beautiful fence. It's gold No, no, it's a military. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's a big fucking fence. It's a beautiful fence. It's gold-plated. It's a space dome. Ten feet higher. No, no.

And I'm glad you mentioned the wall, because that kind of comes into play here, because we're not going to need that wall with my plan. Take some of that $700 billion. Look, we've all read world history to some extent right let's conquer somebody let's conquer somebody that's what we do do you remember that i'm already sold who do we conquer new zealand's just asking for it that's the land of lord of the rings nobody fucks with new zealand which is why we will hold more door ah ha Yes, I'm sold. We should conquer. How many New Zealand people are there?

How many Kiwis are there? It's like a top. We all live in cities bigger than New Zealand. All I know for sure is we won't simply walk there. No, we won't. I would get Sean Bean and the whole cast. No, Sean Bean is not ever going to come with you on a real mission where death is on the line because that guy has been trained like a Pavlov dog

to just start running away from dangerous things oh no no no I got shot by an urnokai twice there suck dick you know the two hobbits that I ended up saving didn't even play that big a part well I gotta go make some food guys but I just want to say like I really do appreciate the fact that...

I think these conversations can be really productive, you know? And a lot of the times on Twitter, it's not very productive because it's just not... Not enough characters. Yeah, not enough characters. A lot of, like, natural constraints to that. But I think that, like, us having conversations where we disagree with each other and we're not shouting ad hominems at each other and dismissing everyone's point of view.

I think that if you guys and we can set an example, especially for maybe a lot of the young people that are watching, I think that can have a really positive effect. I think that's a good thing you guys are doing. Absolutely. No one threw any bottles of urine. None of us had to don a mask. And we all voiced our opinions freely without the threat of violence, and it was wonderful. That's good to know. Ben Shapiro's appearance in Berkeley, I watched that, and I was really encouraged to see that.

I thought that was a really good thing, and I hope that becomes more mainstream than it has been in the last few years because a lot of the criticisms that you have, Taylor, of the left are absolutely on point. I think that this is a step in the right direction. I'm glad you guys invited me on. Yeah, fuck the left and the right. The answer is clearly somewhere in the middle, and the real problem is the left and right keep us divided from finding the real solutions to problems, and it's all about money and dicks and pussy. Yeah.

I think Bill Maher recently just said that a lot of people these days are having a problem distinguishing between an enemy and a flawed ally. And I think that, you know, we need to look at people that maybe don't exactly line up one-to-one with where we're at but still be able to recognize them as an ally. Yes, 100%. 100% as long as they're the same color. And with the way the internet works and everything, you get so inculcated in your own bubble. Because you know how Facebook is. If you click a bunch of conservative articles, they just feed you conservative stuff. If you click a bunch of liberal articles, they just feed you liberal stuff.

You get so barraged with your own points of view that when someone doesn't have it, it's more easy to be like, oh, they don't just consume different sources and have different opinions on this. They must be maliciously disagreeing because they're just, you know, wrong. And that's definitely something that's easy to see, especially on Twitter, where it is very difficult to have productive conversations of any sort, just because 140 characters is not good.

But yeah, I think the conversation we had tonight was really good. Like, just respectful disagreement. I definitely see a lot of your points of view and I'm not educated enough to refute all of them by any means. But yeah, it's a way more complicated issue than I think the far, far left

and the far, far right want to admit. And our politicians are dumber than us and they prove it on a daily basis. How often do you see one of our politicians say something and you're like I? Can clearly see that that's a flawed state, but he just made an either He's being intentionally misleading arguing in poor faith, or he's as he's dumber than I am we see it all the time It's depressing. It's depressing, but stuff like this is uplifting. I agree. Thank you. Thank you coming on. Come on Hey plug your shit

Where can we go watch you do some play some play some pub G streaming or something like that plug your shit Twitch TV twitch.tv for slash hot chum streaming Like most days these days during the gaming season. I stream probably like five six days a week and then youtube.com for slash Oh, thanks for having me on guys. Have a good night. I'll talk to you later. It's really cooking on Yeah, let me do an ad read here and then the three of us have recently if you watch PKN and you should the three of us have recently been watching this documentary series

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difficult at all. Or if it makes me feel more limber or stretched or anything. And I just did it after one of my normal workouts. So like, cause it wasn't too, it was, it was a very beginner. I'm not, you know, Mr. Flexible doing the splits over here. And you do feel way, way better afterward. Like I'm going to start doing that. Uh, hopefully I'll get more advanced over time, being able to do more, you know, movements instead of just the really basic ones. I don't even know the names of, but you just, I don't know. I don't know what it is that like, it's supposed to make you stronger even like the flexing uh the the flexibility exercises after the weight lifting so i don't know i just didn't realize i've always given so much shit to yoga

and just thought oh that's stupid that's just stretching not actually exercising it's like well you know if you get your it just like anything it's the level that you do it yeah right now yes i've done wall sits it's a similar concept because nobody ever looks at you while you're doing a wall sit and goes like man that guy's really working hard but you're sitting there like oh this is so hard dude i i remember being i remember being an mma class and like it was like like we do the warm-up and the warm-up's half an hour like the warm-up for me especially then it's like and i'd look around and not feel ashamed because everybody else is huffing and puffing too there were no like real athletes in there who were

just like doing it like it was nothing but but i they even on day one i remember i walked in and told i used woody's line i was like i got bodied by xbox i was very overweight or at least i felt it and i had bad bitch tits and just wasn't feeling good about myself and i remember like doing those wall that was i could do the monkey crawls i could do the shrimps or whatever the hell i could do everything that they required of us but when it came to the wall sits i would just be sitting there in this excruciating pain as he counts down from like i don't remember how long but it was way too long for me and i would have to like cheat a little I'd have to like push up and like relieve the stress on my, on my thighs or quads or whatever. Uh, there's a lot of that sort of, uh, uh, exercise in yoga. So yeah, it's definitely effective. I've got a wall sit story. Like

we did wall sits, but we didn't do it against time. We just did wall sits to see who could sit the longest. And I'm oddly good at them. Like, like people are like dying and falling down in a few seconds. And I'm like, like this, this isn't hard for me yet those tabs and uh it is there's something like my upper body has never been anything impressive but my lower body's not bad actually and uh it ended up being me and another guy who was right next to me and i was like well this is mma class surely i'll just kick his legs out and win so that's what i did's what I did. And they all felt like it was, like, I'm like, what? It's MMA. Like, how is this not appropriate?

And they said that he won. So that's what I said. And he went to dinner and slapped the waitress and called it a night. I thought it was, I was like, ah, this is brilliant. This is totally appropriate here and nowhere else. But not even there, it turns out. It turns out that you't look at people. Weird how some people think.

Those silly people. People just don't see things like the rest of us. Right, right. That's what I'm saying. Just some good-natured kicking. You just slide. I only kicked one foot out. He went down. Here's the equivalent of that. We're having a staring contest, and I poke you in the out. He went down. Here's the equivalent of that. We're having a staring contest

and I poke you in the eye. I win! Does it happen in MMA? Actual champion, Kyle Myers. I think I might have beat him either way. One time champion of the staring contest blinds another man. In my mind, he looked like he was going down.

I was doing jokes. That was in my mindset. There's my sit story so anyway check them out if you started with fitness and you fell off the train maybe this could be a good way to get back on kyle yes uh so i found this uh you know i go down my rabbit holes on youtube and recently uh i i was looking into primitive uncontacted tribes it started out out, I think I saw an article about some cannibals somewhere that ate some people. Oh, I saw that thing about loggers who killed some indigenous people in South America, and so that sparked my interest. And so I started looking into uncontacted tribes, these people who'd never met white men. At first, I watched

a video that was literally that, people who'd never seen white men. And it was very interesting. I'll link you to that one later, Woody, in case you're thirsting for more. But I ended up on this thing. I believe it's called The Adventures of Mark Woody, in case you're thirsting for more. But, I ended up on this thing. I believe it's called The Adventures of Mark and Ollie. Mark, they're both British guys. Mark is an adventurer. He's hung out with many indigenous tribes. He's traveled the world. Military man.

Military man. A tough guy in quite good shape. Ollie is a TV personality. He's not in poor shape by any means, but he's not as a military man. He's hardened. Okay? This guy, he's been through adversity.

It's part of military training, and it's hard to adverse him to the point of quitting. You just don't see it, especially in this show. They go into this Indonesian wilderness, and they with a guide, and they meet the Kambai tribe. These indigenous people, if you've ever seen, they're the ones

who wear the gourds on their penises and nothing else. And the women wear like palm skirts and nothing else. They're dark skinned people and they live in the jungle and basically they, when they walk up, these people are like cocked and loaded with bows. Like, do we need to kill you bro?

Do we need to kill you? And they talk them down from that, give them a little tobacco to sweeten the deal. And basically they say, hey, we want to learn from the best. And that's you guys. We want to learn to survive in the jungle, find food in the jungle, build shelter in the jungle. Everything that you guys do. I was very excited about it. Because it was a totally

transparent sales technique that any of us would be like, you're totally blowing smoke up my ass. Suck a dick. But the compi try are like, like yes we are indeed the best oh you guys are so gullible carry on they've never been sold to before nobody's ever like hey do you need another a better axe they have no money no one sold them shit they don't use money and in fact they they disallow it because they're afraid it would lead people to the outside world and they don't like that because they respect and revere their traditions there was a part in like the later part of the the series where the the elder of the kombi tribe like actually says like we don't even

know how to get money yeah like it was basically like it's not even what kind of job would you have it's like the concept of money hadn't even sunk in because they like they don't they've never had to live with it and it was interesting fact an interesting factoid uh let's say that here's a thing that happened all right so so there's in the this it's a family they're all related to one another but it's a rather large family and there are other families who live within you know running distance i'll spread out these indigenous tribes it it comes to be that one of their cousins is murdered. He had slept with another man's wife, and as a result of that, the husband killed the man.

And so this is a problem. We've got to figure out what's to be done. There are two ways this can pan out in the Combai tribe. Either A, they can pay blood money in the form of a pig. A pig, maybe some dog's teeth on top of it, but just a pig is really enough. And we're not talking about a big old hog like we'd have in America, like a slaughtering pig. You can put this thing,

a man can pick it up. And so the chief says... Or murder the guy. Or murder the guy. That's the other one. Go get a revenge killing. And earlier in the show and this was the most powerful bit to me of the entire thing i thought the chief who adopts ollie and mark as his sons and he refers to them as his sons he's like my sons come to me ollie my son i will tell

you something they're sitting in the chief's hut uh his tree house and he says uh there was a man he uh killed my son-in-law and i found out about this so i invited him into my hut and i killed him right there where you're sitting and ollie goes ah i see i had no idea i was dealing with a murderer good to know so when this when this killing goes down and their nephew has been slain everybody including mark and ollie are like fuck man um there's gonna be some killing done like like they're they're even interested in brokering their own peace deal but it comes to nothing and what ends up happening is not only do they pay the pig to make up for the killed nephew but they blame the woman because

apparently she was the real problem in all this it wasn't that this man came in and took a woman and tried to steal a woman she was a willing participant and thought and their words that she could sleep with both men and it'd all be okay well they captured the woman and the chief says uh you know we tied her up and they said uh shoot her with arrows and i i couldn't you know i she looked just up. And they said, shoot her with arrows. And I couldn't. You know, she looked just like my youngest wife. I couldn't do it. And at this part of it, it's through translation.

At this part of the story, I'm like, well, shit, thank God that he couldn't do it. He goes, so I looked away, and I told my sons to do it. And they shot her full of arrows. And Mark and Ali again are like, oh, shit. And keep in mind with all these arrows these are not arrow heads or metal arrows they it is whittled down like bamboo shoots and pointy sticks and so when they hit you with an arrow it's not like you've been felled like they probably like got up real close and just put like dozens of arrows or however many it takes or just like pushed it in for like it wasn't a quick

death for anybody who dies in this society at the hands of these bows. This is why I love this series so much. In my culture and probably yours of the listener, there's a certain kindness you have for everyone. You don't want to hurt feelings. You're gentle. You might dance around the truth or tell a white

lie. That does not exist in the Combi tribe. They'll sing songs made up on the spot, insulting the fuck out of you. I have two sons. I like Mark more because he's a good worker.

Ollie is lazy and fat. Those were funny songs. When they were sitting in... The way you always picture with these tribes is like, well, because they don't have any light, as soon as it gets dark, you go to bed and you wake up with the sun. And it showed Mark and Ollie sleeping in the treehouse with the whole family. So just dozens of people and pigs and chickens or whatever running around just rooting and making noise and stepping on your face. rooting and making noise and stepping on your face and all night all night the family was talking and chattering and uh the the leader the the tribe leader elder was singing these ridiculous songs like what he said what what he just said didn't he didn't make that was literally one of them

i remember his new sons sucks at work and the other one's pretty good though you know do you remember the song that like when the guy's singing all night this is the song he's saying my wife is pretty her skin is so soft and she worked not her skin is so soft not like my old wife and then the camera cuts to his old wife and she's scowling like she was sitting right there and he's singing a song about how his young wife has soft skin not like his old wife because polygamy is totally a thing many wives but oh polygamy was so interesting do you want to go you want to talk about it i think it made sense because it's not at all like you know the mormon thing you see here

which still i don't care if they want to do that let them do it but basically it was like a an insurance policy for the woman because so many of these men in these societies die early and die because they're accused of being a witch or die in a hunt or are killed in vengeance that there are widows being made constantly and so it's like a rule in their society that you know if if my brother was married and my brother was killed i have to take his wife and make her my wife in addition to my current wife or my current two wives or whatever because otherwise that lady is just out there on her own it's like a security maneuver and then like when you look at them like yeah you could tell that old wife was not happy with that song but for the most they seemed like a functional family kind of a work team though like so many like i i feel like i grade my wife and family or whatever based on how supportive they are you

like a lot of emotional stuff you know are they straight and true and honest and whatnot they really just cared about work you know like how much pulp can this woman make uh was a big criteria on on how everything else didn't matter. It was really just about how much they can contribute to living. Yeah. That's where they are on that Maslow's hierarchy of needs. They never got past food and security. And show business.

And Stone Age. They don't even have the time to be like, do you love this person? It's like, oh, we're so in love. It's it's like no we can't be fucking around with this kind of conversation more often than just a couple hours a night like after we're done because we got to get food we got to make sure that our house doesn't fall down in the middle of the night or that we don't like all our traps don't get ruined by the rain they asked a youngish couple if they loved each other and they said no but she's a good worker so it's okay and and like this wasn't like some 80 year old whatever just still going through the motions they were also trying to have a baby and yeah we go in the bushes and do our best you know but nothing yet i'm glad they asked that because i had the same question so

so these guys they make these huts and then there's like the hut i don't know how big the hut is 24 by 24 feet but there'll be 12 people sleeping in it. So it's packed. I'm like, do they just fuck on the sly? Are the kids conditioned to it, to think about it differently than we are maybe? I don't want my parents having sex in the room. But if they're just quietly jiggling over there and the kids are like, yeah, my parents cuddle, whatevs. I didn't know.

I didn't know how they handled it, but I guess they sneak off in the bushes. Yeah bushes yeah yeah that was funny when they were asking him that and they're like oh no no no we wouldn't you we wouldn't possibly have sex in our house we go out in the bushes and do yeah and then he's like you don't possibly have sex in your home do you and they're like he's like yeah we have different rooms for we see we we have a bedroom and a kitchen. He couldn't even begin to explain that much, like a level of privacy, because if they saw a house that we had, they would think it was like a castle.

He's like, we'd get arrested if we did it in the bushes. It's not even there. Yeah. It's an interesting program. But to me, I still couldn't get past repeatedly how they didn't lie or didn't sugarcoat anything. That's what I'm searching for. They didn't sugarcoat anything, and they just constantly judged them. And like, yeah, you know, they adopted them.

When I first heard that like the chief and his wife adopted them, I was like, what abs? Like I adopted them, but not really, right? Because they're 35-year-old men or something like that. But as it went on, they kind of did adopt them. Absolutely. They were raising them like kids, teaching them survival skills. And they had other kids that were like their age. And they considered them to be brothers.

Yeah. You just know that if somebody had killed Mark, there would have been a vengeance killing over Mark. Oh, yeah. They'd have went and killed whoever killed Mark. When they finally leave, and I want Taylor to maybe talk about the witchcraft and how that comes into play,

because that was the scariest part to me about being there. Swangy, yes. But when Mark and Ollie like the the oldest man of the tribe he's he's teary-eyed and he's he's he's hugging mark and he's saying don't leave mark don't leave my son stay here and i know you know you can imagine like what what mark is thinking like like i'm doing a tv show mate go get back home to the to the BBC One and give them this footage. I've made it. You have to know the chief, too. This chief didn't

speak for the three months they were there. He just looked at you with gravelly eyes the entire time. He was not, like, a soft guy. But when Mark left, it was like his son was leaving. And I was like, oh my gosh. It was powerful. It was

really powerful. Exactly what you said, Woody. When they said adopt i thought of it the same as like a foreign exchange student where it's like but if like you know yamamoto come from japan comes and stays with us for a semester at the end of it my dad's like yamamoto no you can't go back to tokyo no like but this that's exactly what it was like when they said they said, we want you to adopt, or we're going to adopt you, they had, like, a whole ceremony. And when they left, it was the entire family basically crying. Because to them, like, it was, like, family is everything.

There's nothing outside of family. Your family is your survival tool. And so it's, like, it was so profound to them that it was like they really were losing their brother that day they were like god like please and that was like the saddest part where he's like don't don't leave your father stay here with your father and it's like like i don't know it spoke to a level of like kind of innocence you know what i thought you know it's not innocence because you just watch them you know talk about casually murdering one another on witchcraft accusations. You know what I thought when he said, you know, stay with your father?

I was like, man, if he said that to me when I got back, I would send them a whole bunch of pigs. Yeah, right? I'd work it out. I'd want to like, I'd be like, dude, not only am I going to send you some pigs, have you guys ever seen a chicken? Because not only do they live on bugs but they continuously make eggs and they're tasty like i feel like like let's get these people 50 fucking chickens let's get it let's send them three big fat british pigs that are pink and friendly and like we'll feed three tribes or whatever and And like, I wanted to give the, I,

I, I, I personally wanted to donate something to the combine people because they, they endeared themselves to me so much just in that video. And yet tell them about the swanky. Oh, the swanky. So this is where the series took a turn for me because off the start,

it did start more like, Oh, they're teaching them how to build rafts and shit but the swangy like their their big superstition is that all illness is caused by these demons and that these demons take the form of people and they you don't even know when a swangy is is getting you because it eats your flesh out from under your skin and replaces it with, like, fruit and dirt and a bunch of other things. And grass, they said. And then by the time you get back and you start getting sick, you go, oh, a swangy stole my insides and filled it with grass and everything, so I'm going to die.

And then if they get really, really sick or they die, the person who is sick can just, to anyone, to anyone at all, say, Joe, Joee is a swangy he's causing me to get sick and then there's no trial there's no questions everybody goes to joe they tie him up and they kill him it's it's absolutely so barbaric there was a guy one a guy, one of the family members was accused of being a swangy as a kid. So what they did is they tied him up and they shoved things in his mouth. They pissed on bark

and shoved bark in his mouth and some grass and some larva and he threw up. And they said alright, we think we got the swangy out. But for like the next 25 years of his life, he was treated with a little caution, a little suspicion. Yeah. And at one point, Kyle briefly mentioned they had like a big ceremony at the end.

His brother goes up and does a speech. And he's like, please do not fear my brother. He is not really a swangy. He's a good man. And let's put this behind us. And it was like, please do not fear my brother. He is not really a swangy. He's a good man. And, you know, let's put this behind us. And it was like, wow. Yeah. It's like that silly thing ruined his life for years.

And that was what was so shocking about it is there's no sort of recourse for the person who's accused, which is why Mark and Ollie, the British guys, were so freaked out about it. Because if some First of all right after they got there everybody got a fever And so at any point then if they might have been the cause they should have said Mark and Ollie You know we got to get you and oh the best one of those swanky stories is they were interviewing two of the brothers Yep, and they're asking like their experience with it, and they're like yeah a woman in another village got sick and she named our brother as the swangy and so what we had to do is go to our brother and tie him up and then take him to the rival or the the other village and the other village

killed him and they were talking about the whole time like we loved him like we loved our brother like it was horrible to have to tie him up and hand him over but that's just he was he was he was saying free me my brothers let me go but we couldn't we couldn't and of course mark and ollie are like uh we're your brothers too and the guy even makes a point if he's like anyone could be a swangy you he points at mark you points at ollie me you know and and it's just like well shit i want to be like i'm absolutely fucking not a swangy in my in my tribe back home we wear these special wrist watches that keep the swangy away no swangy can penetrate me because of the wristwatch I wear. That's a good way to get your hand chopped off.

I've got a thought, though. Mark and Ollie were swangy. I don't know why I didn't put it together, right? But think about this. They took these crowded planes from Australia, maybe, to the outback, and then a smaller plane, and then when they got there, people were getting fevers. They totally brought their foreign pathogens to this

thing, and they got everyone sick. This whole swangy thing was bullshit, except Mark and Ollie, actually swangy. Except for the grass muscle swapping. You show up and you talk to those people, and it's like, how good of an immune system can they have?

Localized good, I guess. I don't know. Zero immunity to our shit. That's the thing. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. Zero immunity to our shit. That's the thing. I don't know if you guys have any more, but I would strongly suggest you watch The Adventures of Mark and Ollie with the Combai tribe. Combai with a K. I want to say there's five, maybe six parts,

45 minutes each, and there's no fluff in there. It's just lots of good content. I will say you have to watch it though like i i tried watching it while reading something else but there's so many subtitles in it i had to go back and catch the subtitles you gotta give it your full attention that was like one of those gems on youtube that you find that ends up being way better than you you anticipated so have you watched any of the oats studio stuff that that i was talking about the last pk and the the no i haven't

seen it yet a blonken comp guy what's his fucking name chiz help me i'm spacing on this one uh neil blonken camp or something like that anyway uh it's it's uh well-owned uh director i think he did um in any case he's got his own cgi firm He made Neil Blomkamp. He made District 9. That's what he did. Among other stuff. Yeah, very good movie. He's got three sci-fi shorts on his YouTube channel, which is called Oats Studio.

Sigourney Weaver is in one of them. Dakota Fanning is in one of them. I didn't recognize any big namename actors in the other one. And there's a well-known actor in the one with Sigourney Weaver, but I can't think of his name. I know Chiz will. All three of them were pretty good. My favorite was the one with Sigourney Weaver about aliens terraforming Earth

and humanity is really on its knees in resistance mode. I thought they were really good. They're like 25 minutes long each. And they're not full stories. They're like teasers for a movie that should be made. You watch these and you're like, God damn, I want to see the other 90 minutes of that story. So I highly recommend those two.

That seems frustrating to watch a really, really good trailer for a movie that doesn't exist it's much more than a trailer now like it's it's it's about 25 like like uh it's 25 minutes and there's a lot of exposition well done i might add uh that it fills you in on what's going on there's a bit of voiceover it's like to watch the tv show lost right it's an hour long thing and you're like man i can't wait for next week that's an hour long thing and you're like, man, I can't wait for next week. It's a totally different thing. Every show, every episode was like a trailer for something

I'd love to see. I hope that the goal that Neil has is to figure out which one of these three or maybe he's making more, five, ten, whatever, and get one of them, get a lot of funding behind it, and make it. I particularly want to see the one with Sigourney Weaver.

I really love Sigourney Weaver, and love the Alien movies and everything. Good shit. I also started watching Vice Principals. I know Woody's seen it. Have you seen any of it, Taylor? I watched the first episode right when it came out, and I just didn't like it. Dude, watch episode two,

because that's when shit pops off. We'll go back and watch episode... I gotta re-watch one, because I don't remember why I didn't like it dude watch episode two because that's when shit pops off right like we'll go back and watch it i gotta re-watch one because i don't remember why i didn't like it um episode two they they're you're like oh i thought they were gonna prank people i thought they were gonna like do some silly shit and then they commit like some some major fucking felonies and shit and go hard in the paint. Episode 2 is what sold me on watching the entire fucking thing last night.

I was sending Chiz quotes of it. Look, 4.54am this morning, this is what I was sending him excerpts from the show that McBride says. He goes, I bet she smells like a fuck butthole. And then the girl walks by and after she. He goes, I bet she smells like a fuck butthole. And then the girl walks by

and after she leaves, he goes, told you. It's fucking funny. Speaking of shows, have you guys watched the new South Park? No. South Park's lost my excitement. There's only one episode this season so far. the new one's on tonight so i'm only talking about the first one oh that was shit if i'm being honest um i i didn't

chuckle i didn't grin uh i was so disappointed because i thought that their new mindset this season not doing a big story arc was gonna like allow them to have you know a whole fucking year to come up with a funny episode one and i'm right now i'm struggling to remember exactly oh it was randy's flipping houses i don't know like house flipping reality shows were popular 10 fucking years ago i don't see how that's relevant or interesting um they they and to some small degree they hit on the charlottesville thing but they don't even just a little, they kind of parody it a bit. And that wasn't funny to me.

It was like they don't even parody it. They just kind of alluded to it and then got back to something else. They didn't tie it all together. None of the kids are in it besides Cartman and his girlfriend. The rest of the kids are kind of off screen the whole time. It's just Cartman. And Cartman's whole story arc in this episode

revolves around his love for the Alexa Amazon device and how it's better. And they're drawing these parallels between the Amazon device and his girlfriend and how it's much easier to deal with the Alexa device. It might be onto something.

Yeah, it totally is. Especially if you're an 8-year-old in a relationship. It's not like you're having sex or anything. You've seen an Alexa and an Autoblow when you're set. Together. I don't know. I'd like to hear your opinion if you change my mind. I watched that thing and I was so disappointed

because I just bought the whole season for $25. That's what I usually do with South Park. I like owning them, so I go back to them often and frequently. And I kind of regretted my purchase. Did you like it, Woody, or have you not seen it yet? I haven't seen it. I haven't really liked South Park in two years or so.

And I didn't like PC Principal. I didn't like the election one last year. There's two shows, South Park and the other one's Always Sunny. I like Always Sunny, but I haven't been waiting for it with bated breath for a while.

Are you sure? I'm HIV positive. I like that. I like when they're doing the Washington Redskins thing i like crackhead uh base uh basketball they need to go back to fucked up shit and and raise the bar if they have to like like whatever it takes i want one-off episodes again yeah like i want them because like i i just like sunny and game of thrones like south park is in that echelon of shows for me that I like it so much

that I give it every benefit of the doubt as I'm watching. And even watching this most recent episode, as you're watching, you're like, ha-ha, you're trying to like it more. But the more you kind of ruminate on it, you're like, that just wasn't very good. And you can tell that wasn't a one-off episode. So they're going to go way into another story arc

for the whole season. And it's like, that is the reason that I didn't like last season very much, because they had the full story arc thing, and it wasn't conducive to the kind of humor I think they excel at. And then the season before, which I think was better than last season, but it was the PC principal one, that was still weak. That was the whole season arc. The whole season.

I want them to go back to stuff like Scott Tenorman Must Die, the whole season. I want him to go back to stuff like Scott Tenorman Must Die, where Cartman feeds the parents of a student who pissed him off to him in a bowl of chili, and then Radiohead comes and is like, oh, don't be such a crybaby, crybaby,

as he's eating his parents and weeping into a bowl of mom chili. And then the next episode, it would just go to something else ridiculous, where it's, oh, we're getting abducted by aliens, and this has happened. Oh, now we're going to Casa Bonita. Yeah, Casa Bonita. When's the last time Kenny died?

They dropped that a while ago. You know, he died for good for a while. I'm glad they dropped all that. Because, you know, Kenny actually dying for two or three seasons or whatever it was, allowed us to get Butters, who is an amazing character. One of the best characters, yeah character like butters scotch who has the same birthday as hitler who's like like his his mom his mom was like you better stop making that face he's like this is just my face mom you better stop making that face right now this is

just how i look his dad continuously abusing him like just me saying it. The thrill of that is just so fun. Go back to shit like that. I like Butters just stumbling into shit. I like the anime episode where they all get ninja weapons. That's one of my favorite. And they throw the ninja star, the shuriken, and it hits Butters right in the eye. And he does the... And I like the standard kid thing of like butters you can't tell anyone about this you can't tell anyone that

we just blinded you dog coverment fur taken to a vet to get the assistance and you know all the dogs are pissing on him in secession doctor and the doctor's like, I'm sorry, I only know how to treat human boys. He's just going with his fur glued to him and just going, woof, woof, woof. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I miss that, and I really hope they get back to that because, you know, I'll just stop watching, I guess, you know, but I'll find something else that's funny to entertain me.

But right now, I was so disappointed with episode one. I'm really hoping for something better. Yeah, I'll give two a go. I mean, I own them all, so I'll give the C a go. Taylor mentioned that he likes South Park so much he just gives it a chance and every benefit of the doubt. That's where I am with F is for Family. Like, I like Bill Burr, and i keep hoping that show will be great i've seen every episode but it's it's exactly what you said i love bill burr and i think he's great

but when you're watching it it's like man this isn't uproarious or really that funny and it's mostly about this guy this guy's horrible family relations but not in like a really really funny way where it's like randy will be a horrible dad to stan and it's funny like it's more just like ah bill burr's characters is a really bad dad but not show and i like phil burr i watched it all and i'll continue to watch it because it's on netflix and everything right have you seen naked i haven't seen that yet but i'm curious about it yeah it's um i think it's marlon wayne's hopefully i have his name right and uh he's gonna about it yeah it's um i think it's marlon waynes hopefully i have his name right and uh he's gonna get married and it's similar to groundhog day so every day if i understand it

the premise every day he wakes up naked on an elevator and it all takes place in an hour and he needs to like get that hour right leading up to his wedding. And it had super mixed reviews. And I don't know. I haven't tried it yet. Just going off that picture right there, it seems like a, uh-oh, I gotta get my suit ironed real quick, like that kind of shit. So there's been six critic reviews

currently at 0%. There have been 328 audience reviews, 29%. So, not good. If I'm watching a Groundhog Day scenario, I do not want it to be the hour leading up to someone's wedding. I can't imagine anything more boring. Like, have you ever

talked to girls about like, when the yeah, but who cares about that? It just means it's like, oh, first things first, gotta get dressed. Like, when you talk to women women about marriage or if it comes up like even friends or just acquaintances like they almost all have like an idea or they'll allude to like oh mine's gonna have this and that or something else and it just always points in my mind i'm like oh man there hasn't been even a second in my entire life i've given a moment's thought to my wedding like i've never considered it and that's why when they do shows like this

they should pick leading up to an event that everybody gives a fuck about not a wedding because i don't care if they invited me to come to the tent yeah they already made that movie right with the terminator i need you close your boots and your motorcycle i love the first two i don't even if you've seen the terminator movies, Taylor, the first two at least. I've seen the first one. The second one is better than the first one. The second one is one of the best action movies ever fucking made. The special effects still hold up today.

The only one that doesn't look great is when Arnold's jumping his bike in the reservoir, and you can clearly see that's a stunt double. But the rest of the fucking time, man, I promise you, it's worth your time to go watch Terminator 2. Okay, I'll watch Terminator 2. I'll have to re-watch Terminator 1 because I don't know what happens. How can you even make pop, like, just for the pop culture references, I need to close your boots and your motorcycle. You don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Yeah, but you need to think in this voice so I get what you're saying.

All right, let me, let me, let me. All right, let me, let me, let me, he shows up naked in a biker bar and walks in fucking naked as all these badass barker bikers are like the fuck. And he walks up to the, and he's doing like, you see through his eyes, first person mode. And he's going like scanning everybody. He's like, do not kill your pet. Damn. That's perfect. Please, please, please.

This is, I started watching this when I was like, how old was I? Six. This was when I was watching at six. Just fucking watch at least some of this. It's three minutes and 45 seconds. Real quick, this is funny. I just need one second. They stand up, and the first freeze frame,

because I'm paused at one, is just a red screen with cubes on it that says scan mode. Criteria. is just a red screen with like cubes on it that says scan mode criteria yeah that's through his eyes ready ready set play oh he's definitely hold up these bikes are the same. Yeah I'm teasing He's a nominal shape right I was actually thinking he looked oldish like he's grown. I don't know I Mean I would like to look at it yeah right my grandma always loved the look this waitress with the with the the platter of drinks gives him did happen

yet no it's coming up in just three seconds or so here she comes she's like that's right, that's Arnold, baby. This guy's got his dick out. So he's found the big one, right? Ah, this one matches. I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle. motorcycle you forgot to say please the scan reads the carcinogens in the smoke does terminator feel pain no doesn't seem. No, he doesn't feel pain.

Does he heal? No. Yes! Yes he does. Well that's an ineffective way to get off the stove. That's just not even that good of defense, right? Didn't he get him? Yeah, but... He just killed that guy.

You think? He'll be fine. He'll need some PT. Yeah, he hasn't killed anyone yet. I don't think he kills any people in this movie. The whole movie? Correct.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't kill any people in this movie. I was confused. I literally thought he was going to try and use his key fob on him. Like, lock door! He doesn't know he's a robot. This guy doesn't give up So badass Great we cut it now. There's one more part where he steals a shotgun from a guy, but you know

Watch that movie it looks it's it sucked me in I think I want to see the rest did you guys stop already? Okay, I'll stop 254 It sucked me in. I think I want to see the rest. Did you guys stop already? Where are you? I'm sucked in. Okay, I'll stop. 254. 254? Yes. I'm there.

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Oh. He did. 100%. 100%. Yeah. Tom Cruise did it with aviator glasses. The headlight didn't turn on. You don't need headlights.

Well, he doesn't, but by law, they're all wired not to even turn off. Ah, a movie sin! Get the cinema man on the line. Wasn't that a lot of biker? Yeah, I fucking love that movie. That's one of my favorite action movies of all time. It's a good movie. Like, there's good acting.

That's Linda Hamilton. Linda Hamilton is the mother of, like, the savior of the world, and she's going to come into play. In the first movie, she's damsel in distress mode but in the time that transpires between the two movies, she's been locked in a mental asylum because she believes in Terminators and she's been trying to

stop their rise to power. When they finally show her, she's in the mental ward. She's flipped her bed upside down and she's doing legit pull-ups and she's fucking ripped. She was like the second female hero ever. Like Ellen Ripley's

the first and then there's Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor. Big, big fucking fan of that movie. She found out the end of the world was coming so she spent like the next 15 years training. I don't know how much time it was. I wouldn't have that kind of discipline. I'd be like better make the most of this or try and make it so that when it does end

i like left a happy birthday on one of the terminators facebook pages and they'd be like no this one's good no need to kill it tell his fingers off or whatever the fuck they do whatever day the world ends make sure i'm'm at the maximum amount of debt I can have. What do you spend like this though tomorrow? Well... Cancel the world conquering. You're like, oh no! Remember

on Armageddon when Steve Buscemi borrows all that money from the Russian mob and he's like, you're not going to die on me, are you? He's like, no more than you are. He goes out and makes it rain all night. That's good shit. That's not a good movie. It's just a fun movie.

I enjoy it. Yeah, a popcorn movie. I wouldn't call it bad, though. I wouldn't either. Do you know what it's time for, Kyle? Hit him with the testosterone pills. Oh, yeah, get those in you. No, I think I've gone through our advertisements.

Jason, correct me if I'm wrong. Could do some AMA questions. I have those right here. Yeah. I won't put anybody else on the spot, but there's something about sleeping with different ethnicities of women. I have slept with all of them except for a black woman and it's not because of any um prejudice it just hasn't come up and uh and uh i would if i could but i haven't uh so that's my thing there but i've definitely

slept with uh asian ladies and hispanic ladies and uh white ladies and uh are there any more no i don't think i've slept with a Native American. Combi. Combine. No combine women. That combine pussy is rough. One of the guys is like, he's like, I wish we had some good looking women. Look at our women. Look at our women.

They're rough. And one of the women goes, why are you always flirting with us then? He's like, well, you're the pig. And you're the pig. he say that or is that yeah i have sex with kombi lady because you'd end up dead they'd shoot you full of seven 17 shitty little arrows until you slowly bled out internally yeah i wonder how they feel about premarital sex in the Combai tribe. That's a good... I bet

if it happened, they would be like, oh, well, now not only do you have to marry my daughter or sister or whatever, but we want them dog teeth, bitch. How many dog teeth you got? That'll do. That's how you buy women. It's like I didn't understand what use are they getting out of these dog

teeth that make them worthwhile, and then you see all the jewelry so i guess it's just fuel for or just pieces for jewelry and necklace yeah it's useless another thing that was funny is pigs have actual utility right because you can eat them and pigs were this tremendously valuable thing they're really difficult to acquire and you can trade human lives for them. But pigs are not the currency that you can buy wives with. You can only buy women with dog teeth, which like I don't understand that. Like in my world, we really only have one currency. Or if we have multiple currencies, they can all be exchanged for that. There is no like dog teeth to pig exchange ratio in the economy.

And I was like, I don't get it. Why do you buy one with one and one with the other i don't know yeah it doesn't it really doesn't make sense but it's it would make more sense if like the payment was like you have to build a tree house or are you owe us like sure 10 10 bags of that goo they eat or you know something like that yeah saga oh those uh those those are the uh grubs those enormous grubs where like and this is like this speaks to the level of primitive for how primitive they are is to prepare for their big festival of eating grubs with other tribes all they did is chop down a bunch of trees and then let trees rot and then come back open them up and hopefully there's a lot of grubs in there for them

to eat and it's like and the narrow i think it was i guess whoever's narrating it is like this is the closest they get to agriculture is chopping this down and they're doing it it's like holy shit that is seriously stone age like not even exaggerating like they don't have any kind of agriculture they don't all of their axes are stone and and so shitty. They put their penises in gourds still, which doesn't look comfortable to me. Did you hear the guy describe how you get your dick in the gourd? He's like, you twist your

dick around and then you cram it in there and then it'll feel better once it's in there. It's like, I don't believe you. It's like a concept of comfort. You sit in the rain and barter with pig's teeth for other men's wives. Dog's teeth.

Taylor, you'll never get anything. I'll make a fool of myself. When Mark and Ollie first got there, they were gonna hook Mark and Ollie up with a dick gourd. The old guy goes, did you guys see Ollie's penis penis and they're like no what

what's wrong with it it is enormous i don't think that any of the gourds are going to work and they're like oh well let's just skip oh i forgot the combi are asian they have very small penises it seems or at least, maybe Ollie is hung like a horse. I don't think I ever saw Ollie's dick. They're all very small people because none of them have got nutrition. It's not like a bunch of tall black guys and then the tall white guys who are there. It's like very, very small people. Like just lithe and small, but also very dense and strong looking.

The kind of muscles you get from the same actions over and over like like if you touched their bicep even though it's not huge like it would feel like a rock the women were strong the old men were strong you know like it it wasn't like oh yeah this is tommy he'll be doing all the work from 18 to 40 and then we're gonna you know then he'll have a kid who's capable of doing work no man they all worked and they were all strong and it was pretty another uh another question here from the ama what's your favorite genre of music if i had to pick one i uh i used to like i like old school stuff like i don't feel like there is any more rock music. I don't think that exists anymore. Fall Out Boy. Like I said.

Okay. I really like two genres that are kind of opposed to one another. I like old country. Country that's older than 1995 and preferably older than 1980. I like some Conway Twitty. I like some of those old...

I know all the fucking words. What's his name? That and rap. I like a lot of rap. I have high taste in rap, though. I only like the best. I feel like I'm a pretty good judge of quality. I'm a big Jay-Z fan. I think he's the best at it right now. I was formerly a huge Eminem fan. I still am a big Eminem fan. Was it 444 or something?

The song that they do together is fucking awesome and Eminem blows Jay-Z out of the water though he does that to everyone. I went through an Eminem phase too. I used to listen to it on my way to hockey. It's a pump-up thing. Which album? I had a mix thing. I went through an Eminem phase too. I used to listen to it on my way to hockey. It's a pump-up thing. Which album?

I had a mix thing. I couldn't even tell you the names of the songs, but I could tell you the tracks. You got to go from 1 to 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, Hotspot, 11, and 13. Those are what I'd listen to on the way to my hockey games. The ones you're thinking of, I forget.

Your Moment, whatever. I don't know. I don't know my songs. That's from the 8 Mile soundtrack. I liked the Marshall Mathers LP. That was the first CD I ever purchased because the real Slim Shady was on there. And I know every single one of those songs by heart there's some lyrics that

like I don't know what the word is but I can phonetically kind of say it like like you know I'm a criminal an animal cage to turn crazy how the fuck you supposed to grow up when you wouldn't raise just every fucking lyric of that shit is just ingrained in me at this point because it got

looped every day it got looped at least twice. The whole fucking album. On the way to school, it was playing. On the way back from school, it was playing. I'd get home and do homework. It was playing constantly. The Western music I was thinking of that's country-Western is Marty Robbins.

He has stories that are ballads. Yeah, fuck you, Chiz. I like stories. I like songs that tell a story so like he's got a song called Mr. Shorty about like this short cowboy who walks into a bar and immediately gets disrespect

he has to kill the man because you know there's a shootout and he's like it's always this way everywhere I go you know somebody wants to pick on me and I have no recourse but to do this and he kind of hangs his head and just leaves and that's his existence because he's like, it's always this way. Everywhere I go, somebody wants to pick on me, and I have no recourse but to do this, and he kind of hangs his head and just leaves. That's his existence because he's this little fellow, and then he's got all these songs about writing.

Like a man named Sue. My daddy left home when I was three, and he didn't leave much to maw on me, just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze. Now, I don't blame him because he run and hid, but the meanest thing that he ever did before he left, he went and named me Sue. Well, he must've thought that it was quite a joke and it got a lot of laughs from lots of folks. Seems I had to fight my whole life through. Some guy would giggle and I'd turn red and some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head. I'll

tell you, life ain't easy for a boy named Sue. But I grew up quick and I grew up mean. My fists got hard and my wits got keen. I roamed from town to town to hide my shame well it was gatlinburg in mid-july i just hit town and my throat was dry i thought i'd stop and have myself a brew i had this whole fucking song like yeah when god was handing out the ability to remember movie lines and songs he clearly gave kyle my dose he's got double i've got none overfilled that tire where he came back he's like oh shit well i guess i'll just skip the next one he was big and fit and gray and old and i looked at him my blood ran cold it was just that whole fuck he has a fight with his dad like if you've never heard boy named sue like you don't want to look that one up that's a big that's a favorite of mine

all that johnny cash shit uh all that stuff it's not far from what i've been listening to i i put together a playlist i call chill and uh lately that's all i've been playing it's got like beatles blackbird on it a couple beatles songs some james taylor on it some grateful dead um chill stuff big elton john fan uh i know i know most of those songs, or at least the majority of them. I know most of the Beatles songs, or at least definitely all the hits. I like to sing along with the music. I think that helps with memorization. Because I sing along. I don't just listen to music. I kind of make it a joined experience.

I'm singing. And I'm not embarrassed to sing in front of people. Clearly. I carry a tune a little bit. I'm not... Better than I carry a tune a little bit. Better than average, but not a pro. Yeah, absolutely not. No, no.

You get a lot of practice in your shower. I know because every once in a while, Kitty texts me a video of you. Well, not a video. The video of your door, your bathroom door, and just the loud songs of an an angel like just booming out of there yeah do you have a do you have a rotation that you you stick to where you have your yeah your main songs in the shower yeah i sing songs that have like long notes and stuff i sing delta

dawn delta dawn what's that flower you had on could it be a faded rose some days gone by and just um there's a bunch of them yeah yeah i'm always singing something in there uh depends how i'm feeling that morning i feel like rapping is a little embarrassing because i because i know kitty's out there so i i still and eminem's a little aggressive for for like the morning time when you just woke up and had your first cup of coffee so i usually sing something kind of flowy and country something like that Yeah, I wish I could sing I Could do it. I wish I could actually Yeah, well, I mean I listen to so little music. It's it's honestly weird

Like when people ask me like what kind of music do you listen to you? I always like try and think like oh fuck I Like when people ask me, like, what kind of music do you listen to? I always like try and think like, oh, fuck. I like Muse a lot. I like that's a band that I like. I like like calm kind of rat-a-tat or pretty lights kind of music that you can. It doesn't have lyrics and you can listen to it while you read. I just all the audio I consume is podcast or like debates or people talking about shit that's more interesting to me than music. And I don't know, the whole point of me when I'm in my car, which is people where they do most of their music listening, I would think, is that I like getting – like I like whatever seems like it's making the trip go the fastest. conversation that's going to put me off in my own conversation in my head and and thinking like that and that style is way way faster than listening to music where i'm just like like

when i hear a song start it's just like all right well this will get me through the next four minutes which will get me four miles down the road whereas if i'm listening to you know a podcast or a debate or something like it'll be like huh that's really interesting well no i i disagree with that part of it though because this or like oh that was really funny like oh what would I have said in that situation if it's a comedy podcast? And then, you know, you riff in your head and like practice things like that and you think about it. Like it's just for me, it's way easier to get lost in my own head without the music there. And then you just kind of, you know, I also do a lot of driving in silence like a sociopath is like I like to do a lot. I like getting my thinking done in the car.

And so a lot of the times, like on the way to work or home from work or whatever, I'll just have nothing on. And sometimes I'll be out loud arguing to myself or saying something. And other times I'll just be kind of sitting there because I'm very annoying with myself and how I organize my days and stuff. I'm very list oriented and time oriented. And so I'll be like, all right, I should be home by 545. I'll spend the next 15 minutes tidying up. That take my pre-workout 30 minutes after that i'll start working out by the end of that it'll be an hour later i'll need to shower that's 15 more minutes and then like i try and like even if i don't stick to it i don't know why i just have a compulsion to

try and structure things by time so i did that when i just don't listen a lot of music at my busiest like when it when i was at my complex busiest woody craft might have been my busiest but it was just it was simple all day sit here and work constantly but when I was like working during the day going to school at night had a side business I structured my like almost every minute like you do yeah now that I think about it it's comfortable like when you have a list and like a schedule that you can maintain like I just got more done that's what it was for me and sometimes it was time-based, like you talk about.

Other times I just, like, these are today's goals, you know? And if I have a list there, then it's like, all right, what's next? And there's no, like, oh, I didn't call that guy. I didn't do this thing. Because you thought about it and planned it. I love getting ahead of my own schedule to where like i'll be like oh that'll probably take uh 90 minutes or so and then i'll finish something in like 30 minutes and i'll be like oh what do i do with all this extra time i'm like well maybe i just forge right ahead to the next

activity i'll truncate the entire day or like i don't know it's it's just it makes me kyle do you do that at all do you make lists in that kind of structure for your days and whatnot? Or that doesn't even cross your mind? If I have something to do, tomorrow I've got stuff to do. I've got a lot of stuff to do. Two trees fell down with the storms that came through. So my dad's bringing a truck and trailer over here and a chainsaw. And so I've got to chop all those trees up, throw those in the dumpster. I've got to pressure wash the outside of the house. I've got to chop all those trees up, throw those in the dumpster. I've got to pressure wash the outside of the house. I've got to cut the grass. I've got to box a bunch of stuff and move a bunch of furniture

because I'm getting new flooring put in on the upstairs. Tomorrow is one hell of a fucking busy day, so I'm going to take myself an Adderall when I wake up and make a list. What helps me about the list isn't so much as scheduling the structure. That's not what it's about. It's about putting my thoughts to paper and making them real. Putting them in the physical world. I feel like that's beneficial.

But also, very satisfying to check things off that list. Oh, I love check marks. You draw the fucking, you know, if you're angry, you hold that pencil like a goddamn caveman. You, urgh, fuck you, you fuck you you know whatever pressure washing the windows right tree oh i'm gonna enjoy that you know chainsaw work like pressure washing the chainsaw work as you're going through your list i'm like those are things that healthy woody would really enjoy uh but then you got to moving furniture and i was like yeah you can keep that one. I enjoy moving furniture. I'll hire a guy. I'm pretty good at it.

Like, I've got a really large dresser over here. You know, it's... A nice old wall? No. It's four, you know, it's four drawers, and there's two rows of them, so eight total drawers, and it's what I've got my television on, and it's incredibly heavy.

Not quite as heavy as my television which will definitely require help but like because i live here with kitty a feeble woman everything that's heavy has to be a one-man operation every every single time so like i've learned to do this stuff on my own so like a dresser i know all right get everything out of the drawers and then flip that motherfucker upside down on its on its top the top smooth that slides on carpet like butter i can move this like 300 pound dresser but like as quickly as i can run like i just started start pushing it sliding on the carpet and it's it's across the house in just a minute you know and then like it's funny being the only strong person around not that i'm tremendously strong but i'm more than twice as strong as Jackie.

So like if something weighs 75 pounds, we might both carry it. If something weighs 100 pounds, she might get the other side. But if it were to weigh like 125 or 150 pounds, it's like, well, can you move over? You know, I'm trying to get this. She can't do that side.

So then it becomes a one man job. Yeah, I've been conscripted into helping a few people move already this summer, or I guess over the summer since summer is kind of winding down. And I don't mind that much. I just really, really hate it when I go into someone's place. It was like I guess a month ago now that I was going to a friend's place who had a pool and i was like oh we'll go swimming and they were and he's like well my friend who lives across the way needs some help moving real quick do you mind and i'm like no like whatever that's okay and so i walk over there and i'm expecting it to be some

furniture and a bunch of boxes packed up and it's just like loose shit sitting around and it's like oh my god if you're gonna ask for help have it have it together have it ready and so it was like like yeah exactly chiz that's not moving you're in the packing stage like when my movers show up like with like i make sure everything's in a box or if i do have people over i'm not telling them yeah and grab that like loose tv that's not in a box and carry that down and then pick up these my magic card collection like no like all i ended up doing was just helping him with big furniture so i was just like no i'm not gonna help you pack i have three requirements three requirements if you're going to be moved this is how you do it one like taylor said have your shit packed two when you load it into the, either know what the fuck you're doing or step aside.

And here's the hint. Big stuff first. If you take all the boxes, put them into the back of the truck, and think you're a fucking Tetris master when dealing with all of these one-by-one cubes, you're not. If you want to be a Tetris master, put the table in there, the couch in there, and then fill in all the boxes around it. You'll get a much denser packing. So that's two. The third one is on the unloading phase, direct us to where you want things.

Don't just shrug your shoulders and not know. It's for both of us. You know, say, oh, upstairs, second bedroom. People will go there. Your unpacking will be a hundred times easier. And the unloading is a hundred times easier. If you're a girl who can only carry lampshades that's your job direct traffic you're so much more useful than picking up lampshades and at the same time don't start reorganizing

shit while we're still moving in when me and my buddy are carrying your couch and we goes put it there we put it somewhere and he's like actually no turn it this way it's like net it's that to tie it's here this is your fucking problem you can put it wherever you want I'm gonna ask you this in the living room and just putting it in a pile in the middle and then you deal with it no no no no see I'm not there I don't want a big pile in the living room no no no tell me which room it goes in a living room stuff I mean like when they say the living room it's like it gets to the living room yeah I'm not doing the fucking feng shui uh water garden thing for you i agree

let me ask you this what do you think a proper reimbursement is if you're going to help uh a somewhat like a work friend move his entire house and we're talking about we're putting all his shit putting it into u-haul following U-Haul 20 minutes across town, unloading it and putting it into the house. There are three total trips. He has heavy oaken furniture. By the end of the day,

this is a co-worker, by the end of the day, you have blisters. What compensation would you expect? I'm pretty cheap, but here's what I'd want. Probably two meals and they can't be, and all the water I can drink. I mean, that's a really reasonable request. I think I would want, yeah, you're right, one or two good meals. And then, because you work with them, like a monetary thing doesn't make any sense,

and you wouldn't want that anyway, I don't think. But I would want the understood knowledge between us that when i called in a favor that was moving or that was inconvenient or that took a whole 60 reviews in the office yeah yeah it would absolutely be like okay i'm there for you that sounds shitty and it's going to take all saturday but i remember you did that for me so i got really it's more more than the dinners it's that favor that i would want like when I'm in a pinch. Well, he tried his best. He was a Russian man, and Sergei gave me a 12-pack of beer,

and then later on he invited me to a rape barbecue. A rape barbecue? And what happens there? How much is a rape barbecue worth? Is that more or less than a BLT? That's got to be 10 or something. About 35 to life, I would have to say. I've never heard of a rape barbecue. I've got to be twinners. About 35 to life, I would have to say. I've never heard of a

rape barbecue. I've told this story. I've heard of all different kinds of barbecue. I've told this story far too many times, but basically it was 4th of July, and Sergei invited me to come over to his barbecue, and I assumed that, oh, shit, yeah, it'll be me and Sergei, and I bet like five or six co-workers and two or three neighbors' families,

and I met Sergei's wife and kids because I helped them move into their new place and this is gonna be great I love barbecues and he's telling me about all the food the potato salad the hot wings he's hooking up his special recipe he's talking about he's gonna break out the good Nemirov Ukrainian vodka he was Ukrainian not exactly Russian but he's talking about the little pickles that they eat you do a shot you eat the little gloss and pickle or whatever it is. And I'm like, shit, man, this sounds great. I'm down. And, you know, I show up to his house and all the windows have trash bags taped over them so the neighbors won't see when Jeanette gets there.

Jeanette's the secretary or the greeter at the door. And Sergei's family's not there. And there's no coworkers there. And there's no neighbors there. And it's me and Sergei's family's not there. And there's no co-workers there. And there's no neighbors there. And it's me and Sergei. It's me and Sergei sitting at a table with all this food. Quite a feast. Wonderful hot wings.

He did have a good recipe. Big jar of pickles. And they do go well with that honey pepper vodka. And some intentions of rape, it seemed. And did you stick around for more wings? Well, she put up one hell of a fight, I'm going to tell you right now. No. No.

So what I did was I stayed there all night drinking and eating with him. And I texted Jeanette not to come. That's exactly what I did. And we drank that entire bottle of Ukrainian vodka. And then we switched over to, I don't remember what the other kind of vodka was. Because I just had split a bottle of Ukrainian vodka, and then we switched over to, I don't remember what the other kind of vodka was, because I just had split a bottle of Ukrainian vodka, and I slept in his young son's

room, who was, of course, away because of rape barbecue. This must be a long-standing Ukrainian tradition. He might have come up with it on the spot for all we know. Or it was just this fucking maniac who throws rape and pickle barbecues.

I have a rape story. I bet you do. Father of five taxi driver was shunned by local Muslim community after student 22 falsely accused him of groping her when he refused to accept a kebab-soaked $10 note.

So here's the deal. There's this 22-year-old student. She was majoring in criminal justice, so maybe she knew a thing or two. And she was drunk off her ass and, I guess, rude to the driver. And she gave him a $10 bill that was soaked with kebab juice, which I guess is pig-related. I don't know. Kebab to me is just a stick.

You can stick anything on it. Oh, I didn't think about the pig thing. Yeah. So because he was Muslim, he said, look, I can't accept that $10 bill. And she got irate. And at first she just started doing silly things like opening all the doors. He's an Uber driver. I left that out. So she like opened every door in the car and like, what are you going to do now? And he's like, shut the doors, I guess. And eventually she accused him of groping her i guess i i thought it was rape the first time i read through but um it looks the headline says that he accused her of groping her um fortunately there was some proof like video proof that that cleared him and she got six months in jail 18 months in jail what does it say

uh i would need to scan this real quick but she definitely got months in jail? 18 months in jail? What does it say? I would need to scan this real quick, but she definitely got legit jail time. Not as much as he would have. Yeah. That's good that she got punished. That's not cool. Yeah, I saw that too. I really dislike the false

rape allegations. They are... I don't like rape, despite my friend Sergei. He's not my friend anymore, just to be clear. I haven't seen that man in about... Ever since the rape barbecue. Yeah, virtually. 11 years since I've seen old Sergei. But I'm sure he's out there

doing his thing. Let's hope he has less sex drive now. 11 years has gone by. 16 months, I got the answer. I had to know. She's going to be in jail for 16 months. By the way, it's not like probation or anything. 16 months. That's a legit

jail time, I feel like. I used to be like, she should get whatever he would have for making it up. I don't know. I feel like that's right. You were talking about the false rape, right? I hate that.

It's a kind of aggression. And I feel like, I don't know what the number is, you know, 49 times out of 50, when someone says they were raped, they probably were. Change it to robbed. Make it robbed then my cop friend says that that it's 50 50 and so when he gets to and he says when he gets to one of those scenes he says it's up in the air we just have to look at the evidence there and hope that there are witnesses or video proof or something he's like because it's 50 50 most of the time that's horrible to hear that's what he told me because i don't think it's that for robbing, right?

I bet if someone says, hey, officer, this was just stolen from me. Most of the time it was. I bet. Yeah. You know, I don't think people just make that up, especially with a person like, that guy stole this from me. I bet he did. And there are various different kinds of false rape accusations.

Of course, there's the most egregious, which is when you're just like, oh, fuck you, motherfucker. I'm going to go tell on you. I'm going to go make up a horrible lie on you and ruin your life. But then there's also the girl who sleeps with a guy and then later regrets it. And she calls that rape to save her honor to some extent. There are stories about that that go back you know thousands of years that that that happens it's happened throughout history there's the mixed signal you know where maybe he thought he had the go-ahead but he really didn't and you know just

that total confusion struggles might might give you away i'm picturing a drunk situation here ah well now see that's a real sticky situation that was that's where i was going next is that you know like legally speaking it seems you know and i don't know that it seems that like if she's intoxicated to virtually any extent that and she says that you know sex happened and she didn't want it that it seems like it's rape and i've even seen instances where both parties were raped or excuse me were intoxicated were drunk and the man is still accused of rape and it even goes through you know it's it's a it's a weird fine line you almost need to be like pc principal and be like i need i need you to confirm that you're

down for me to pound that puss here you know it's one other one i really really don't like is when it's totally consensual but they're too young uh that's that sucks too you know it's like two two 16 year olds or something yeah two 14 year olds and uh it's like all right he raped her because she wasn't old enough or he or was he and it's like how is that rape yeah it's it's so weird with that and we've we've talked about that a bunch of times but but you know as the ages go there's emotional uh you know age and there's physical age and that that can be taken into play but there's also this this whole sliding scale all right she's 14 he's 17 oh uh well she's 15 he's 18 she's 16. He's 18. She's 16. He's 19

Like you just and you move either of those numbers up and down sometimes by six months or a month, you know Just so you can say oh no. No, I'm I'm 17. Well You're a month away from being 18. Does that matter? You know, it's it's it's a weird thing and there's so many different opinions on it and of course, you know, there's so much victimization, there's so much false accusation, there's too much stuff blown out of proportion, there's so many instances of parents pressing those charges when the girl is like, no, no, no, I love him. It's just such a mixed bag of stuff and we hate rapists and I don't't just mean society i mean the three of us

fucking hate rapists you know there's not one of us who doesn't have a mother or a sister or a grandmother and and you know we hate fucking rapists we hate men who take advantage of women and and wrong them in that way it's a horrible horrible thing even though as woody says they're built for it right woody yeah and i don't have a sister so hey they're fair game gonna double down on this one yeah i don't envy the position of sitting in judgment of that or trying to figure out the rights and wrongs of that you know because it because there's it's such a weird thing and And clearly, rape is rape is rape. But then there are these borderline cases that we just described where it's just like a real head-scratcher as to, has someone been wronged? Has some innocence been stolen?

Or was this a case of star-crossed lovers? Is this Romeo and Juliet? Would these people, you know, if left to their own accord, would these people have gotten married three years later and lived the rest of their lives together and had a family and been productive members of society? You know, like sometimes, absolutely. And sometimes, no, that guy was a douchebag. He's taking advantage of manipulating that young lady who's not emotionally capable of making these decisions. She's nowhere near that. And he just happens to be an advanced 18-year-old. This isn't just your

average 18-year-old boy. If you've spoken to him, you sit in that room with that kid, that ain't no fucking kid. That's not a regular kid. That kid's smart and in a scary way. There's plenty of those. 50-50 blows me

away that it's 50-50 on these rapes being real or false. That's a real PK statistic. I'm not standing by that number. I'm just telling you that's what I was told by a law enforcement. You heard it here first from Kyle. I don't put that stain on me. I'm literally telling you this is something I was just told by a cop. Take it for what it's worth.

I'm sure there are actual statistics out there, biased as they may or may not be, that you could research and find better information. That's the thing. So I've seen stats like, oh, they're 98% true. And by the way, there's another gazillion cases out there that just don't get reported at all because they don't want to deal with it, feel like they'd be embarrassed. It's not a strong enough case, even though they know they're right. There's a lot of reasons why you wouldn't accuse someone of rape, just because it's going to come back on you and you're going to have to prove it. And you know, I really dislike the amount of, and this kind of falls into the domestic violence slash rape category, any sort of thing.

I feel like men are a disadvantaged group of people in that regard. I feel like as a white man, you know, a member of... It is the toughest of all game modes. Well, I mean, if you're just talking about male and female, then courts, yeah, they absolutely rule in favor of women more often than men. Yeah, I feel like in so many ways, despite public opinion, that the white man,

and I don't... because I am one, is it's kind of have we have a lot of fingers pointed at us and a lot of prejudice against us and a lot of preconceived ideas about us that really disadvantage us in a lot of ways that that no other group has to and the worst part is we're the only group or one of the very few groups that can't complain about it's like shut the fuck up bro like like what do you know what other group is there white women that's not true white women can can play the sexism card no i i'm looking at hillary clinton oh you're talking about like a court thing i know what i

was saying was that like confused white men have the most privilege right as men members of the patriarchy or whatever and then white women have the a little less right, as members of the patriarchy or whatever, and then white women have a little less privilege. I would have gone with Jewish men. Straight white man, straight white woman, and then it goes down from there, I would say, with your, you know,

the amount of privilege you supposedly have or do not have. I don't know who's winning the hierarchy today. Like, I have no idea. It seems that right now, Muslims and LGBT are vying for that number one spot on the top of the hierarchy.

I'm talking about on top of the victim hierarchy. First of all, I'm offended by your LGBT thing. You left out several letters. There's so many other ones, though. I don't remember. There's the T and the Q. I think there's two or three q's and a couple of i's yep maybe an a i think there's a couple t's and a q and then beyond i don't know they should have an acronym oh i know

chiz i i i knew long that many, he's non-binary questioning. Yeah, that's ridiculous. You guys want to call it a show? Yeah, I could. It's not Sarah Connor returning, or Linda Hamilton. It's also James Cameron returning to make the next Terminator film. Oh, woo-hoo. Do we have anybody

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