Painkiller Already - Painkiller Already #412

Episode Date: November 16, 2018

On this week's PKA, Filthy Robot is back to join the crew! The guys finally kick off the PKA Fitness Challenge, aka "No Rest November", starting November 8th and running until December 8th, so the guys talk about their first-day results on this week's show and where everyone is in the standings. Then they watch some videos of terrible bullet ant gloves and how they should never be worn (especially with contrasting socks, I mean come on have some better fashion sense) and then lastly look at an Uber driver and the terrible trouble he's gotten himself into.

Painkiller already, episode 412 with our guest filthy robot, Kyle. Your sponsors tonight, Casper Mattresses, Smart Mouth, Dollar Shave Club, Morning Recovery Drink, YouTube Music, The Star Talk Podcast, Monster Energy Espresso, and of course, Fallout 76. Support for today's show comes from Fallout 76, Bethesda Game Studios, the award-winning creators of Skyrim and Fallout 4. Welcome you to Fallout 76, the online prequel where every surviving human is a real person. Work together or not to survive. Fallout 76 will be available worldwide on Wednesday, November 14th.

Pre-order now at participating retailers and play the beta. Games play best on Xbox One. Check it out. All right. Tell them we sent you. We're in with the um no rest november stuff is that where we kick it off i think we need to distance ourself from the november branding first of all because because we're going relatively into december but before we get into that i wanted to

like just catch up with filthy real quick anything new with you you look you always look fit and thin but i can't tell if it's just the color of your face right now like have you been climbing extra a lot because i know lots climbing when i moved out here no fucking climbing unfortunately which is really unfortunate uh but i've been doing uh nine round is what i've been doing up here which is that a pool game uh no it's a like kickboxing kind of like workout oh okay yeah so my second guess was miniature golf i i actually don't really like that kind of thing but i really do like that i don't have to be motivated i just show up and then there's like some guy whose job it is to be motivated for me all day gets to be like working me through that i'm like great

and fucking tastic is like real combat stuff or is it mostly like trying to get you your cardio okay they're just doing it in the context of punching kicking and a bunch of body movement stuff and it's been it's been fairly good i had to find something to replace climbing just because like um it's going to be winter in wisconsin it's like 30 degrees out there like biking is a lot like it's a pipe dream at this point to enjoy that and like there's nothing to climb so it's like all right all this point to enjoy that. And like, there's nothing to climb. So it's like, all right,

all the things I would normally be doing for fun are gone or normally fun workouts. So that's what I'm doing. Biking in cold weather yet. I'm sure you have. Yeah. Yeah. I have tried that now.

It's been a long time, but it is, it was awful. It was awful. Why is it bad? The wind's way colder when it's coming at you faster. Yeah. Wear a face mask,

right? I hate working out when it's real cold. when you're when you're getting the simultaneous your body's super sweaty because you're working hard and anything that's exposed is freezing and breathing deeply burns because the air is cold that is like the worst fucking experience for me all of that i agree with there was an extra thing that might be unique to me in that like how fast i'm going was a big part of my motivation right I sat there when I when I wrote a lot and just looked at my little cyclometer like a speedometer and I had I had numbers I had values that I valued and and those that I didn't and one

thing when you wear winter clothes your wind resistance is way it's like flapping windbreakers and shit like that slows you down a ton uh if you wear long pants that takes more energy than you'd guess to pedal through like you know the shorts you're skin free right pretty much but when you wear some sort of either tights or pants or whatever it just you're you're putting a lot of horsepower into moving your clothes and there's something like when you're biking when you're biking it's enjoyable like it's a kind of you're experiencing like when you're going out for a nice bike ride on like a warm day like you get the wind you get the experience of being that close to it you have to be going fast you have to be experienced all the things you like to do when i'm out on a cold

day like that it's like freezing snot like blowing up the side of my face and like you know like am i gonna go through like this you know what do they do for the roads like am i gonna be coming over ice on a bike or something it's just fucking like fuck that you know i like, am I going to go through like this, you know, what do they do for the roads? Like, am I going to be coming over ice on a bike or something? It's just fucking like, fuck that. I might want to go 22 and a half miles an hour. And then all of a sudden I'm going 18 and a half. And it's like, what am I, old and fat? Yes, your future Woody.

Congratulations. Old, not fat. It's a sliding scale. It depends on your definition of fat. And there are a lot of them, right? And mine is anyone that weighs more than 130 pounds damn it is no one safe i have a friend that's what kyle's doing with this fitness challenge this is an elaborate ruse to get down to 129

you would look like one of those African kids where the elbows stick out bulbously like the middle of a twig on a branch because there's no flesh. At 129, you would... Could you survive at 129? No. No, I don't think so.

I really couldn't. Even if I lost every bit of muscle that I had and every bit of fat that I had, I feel like my organs, brain – brain isn't an organ. My organs and bone structure, I'm probably right there at like 120 pounds of that. I don't know what the other 10 pounds is. I guess blood. Your bones.

I couldn't survive. For a weigh-in, you give a couple pints of blood first. There you go. That would be hilarious in the UFC where they wheelchair a guy in and just put a piece of... They level it out like a kitchen scale where they put plywood on it, zero it out,

and they just lay him there. All right, hang on a minute. Drag it by a circle. Hang on a minute. Woody, answer me this. What if they took out a pint to her blood and they just added it back afterwards? All right, two issues with that.

One, it's ridiculous. But the other two issues were they're so dehydrated and such that if you were to take blood, they'd have even more issues. They're already getting all of it out. Second, you can't use an IV. People use IVs to dilute their fluids. Excuse me, blood bucket? I don't know how you're't use an IV. People use IVs to dilute their fluids. Excuse me, blood bucket? I don't know how you're putting the blood back. You drink it.

That's how it works. He's not going to replace it. He's just going to add to it. Yeah. People, like, if I knew that I was getting, if I was on roids and I knew it was coming, I might take a couple pints of saline and get my levels a little more worked out,

which is why IVs are illegal because they were a way to beat drug tests. I think it's a funny joke though. Yeah, I'll give you that. Can we talk about this fitness thing? I am chomping at the bit. I saw just a little tiny bit on your Reddit about something,

but I haven't heard any of the details. I'm kind of curious too. I've been planning on how to explain the fitness challenge uh faster and better for people that don't watch every minute of every episode we have these chest straps this is the transmitter this is the strap it basically measures how many how far above a certain heartbeat threshold you are and the longer and further you're above it the more points you get per minute they do this and they do that nine round too like you wear them going into that i find it really nice for motivating you're like okay well this is where i'm trying to get for yeah and it's not exactly per minute but it kind of is i i could drag it out but like if you're

getting four per minute then you know it seems like you only need to be in that threshold for 15 seconds and you i always get one point at a time they just come more quickly when i'm at a higher threshold but um uh anyway so we're doing this thing for a month i don't think we've actually agreed on a stop date but uh because we start on the 8th we probably won't stop november 30th and whoever has spent the most time in this higher cardio range then will win so uh kyle do you want to talk about what your day was like and how you're feeling afterwards? I feel real good. I feel energized. I feel strong. I feel strong. So, as soon as the clock rolled over last night at midnight, I started messing with my belt. 45 minutes later, I got it to work. The issue I was having, and there are lots of issues with these things,

but the specific issue I was having was my Bluetooth wasn't enabled to, like, accept connections in a certain way. Even though the thing had worked, yes, the day before, I guess that setting got reset. In any case, 12.45 a.m., I got started with my first workout, and I basically worked out until 5 a.m., something like that, and got extremely far. I got a lot of meps, I don't know, probably 700 meps before I went to bed. And then I woke up.

I went to bed, like I said, at 5 a.m. I woke back up at 11 a.m. and I figured I needed some some like food, you know, for I was going to get I was going to get hungry. So, you know, I got all my supplements into me. I went out. I bought a few steaks and some brown rice. I was running low. Got another six pack of Gatorade and I bought 66 pounds of ice for my ice bath. And actually, I skipped over that. I took an ice bath last night at 4 in the morning or 4.30 in the morning, something like that, before I went to bed.

Not that bad. It's not that bad. I put, I think, 60 pounds of ice in there that time and just enough water to cover myself. And I only stayed in for eight minutes, six minutes. And it wasn't that bad. But my second ice bath was much longer. So I got back home and immediately started working. You don't want to be doing that multiple times a day.

Fuck you. I'll do what I want. Okay. So I got home. I got home. When my toes turned purple, I know I'm in the zone. So I got home, and I continued working out from like – Wait until my nose goes black and falls off.

Then I know. That's right. Nose and nose. I'm worried about other appendages here that are hanging off in the middle of that. So I started working out at about noon, I guess, on my rowing machine. I got to about eight or nine miles. This is 12 hours later, no sleep still? No, no. I slept for six eight or nine miles. This is 12 hours later, no sleep still? No, no.

I slept for six hours in the night. At 5 a.m., I went to bed, woke back up at 11 a.m., started my day again. It took me about an hour to get showered, get like a protein shake in me and get a few groceries, then right back to it. I worked out basically until 6 p.m. We start this at about 7 p.m. And so I was doing something or another for about six more hours after that. Lots of like consistent yellow, like hours of consistent yellow in the workouts. And the leaderboard currently sits at Taylor has 413 MEPs.

Chiz has 546 MEPs. Woody has 751 MEPs. And I have 1,507 MEPs. Oh, that's higher than it is on my screen. Yeah, so my numbers don't jive with Kyle's. I woke up this morning, and on my screen, I was 900 points behind Kyle, 600

points behind Chiz, and 400 and some points behind Taylor. I actually had a really active day yesterday. So I bet if hypothetically it started the day earlier that would have been like a 500 MEP day. So there was no way I was like coming home from that and kicking off a midnight

workout. Like I was, it's a month long comp. I've got to kick off this so there was no way i was like coming home from that and kicking off a midnight workout like i was it's a month-long comp i've got to kick off this thing with with sleep so that's what i did the same thing you went back grabbed a six-pack uh i slept like a baby i got a good like seven and a half hours of sleep after really yesterday was a ball buster too and um uh then i just like all right gotta get my heart rate up i went out i kited my wing for hours i skateboarded for hours i went for a walk in the woods with colin we came back i skated while he rode his bike wore out the boy i didn't think that was gonna happen i thought he was like gonna kick my ass with regards to this nope Nope. Broke him. So after he went back inside to recover, got out again.

I stopped briefly for lunch. Hope, you want to roll? Yeah, she's at school. And I just went all day. My workouts are not as intense as I think anybody's. I spend some time in the gray and the blue. These are the lower two, and they spend their time in the green, yellow,

and I don't know, maybe touch red or something. And this is for the pka nude calendar you guys doing this for it's he did his for october and just for some numbers joe rogan acts like a thousand mep day is legendary like it's a really big thing so that's what I had in my head. I woke up 900 points behind Kyle, and I'm like, oh my gosh. I think Joe's biggest days were like a grand or something. Maybe someone knows differently. Yeah, I beat Joe's biggest day. That was part of my goal

today, was to surpass his best day. I think his best day was like 1,200 or something like that. Oh. Yeah, I didn't beat his best day but i don't know i had a big day yesterday 750 i thought was a pretty strong start i know this is probably going to be overkill for some of your viewers you probably know the answer is can you roll me back just slightly go back to me what was the genesis of this and what is the goal joe rogan's podcast

i guess every year they do an october thing and i think last year it was sober october and i don't know if there was more to it than that this year exactly this year it was sober october and they also wrapped in this thing and they bought these little my zone things there's no sponsorship here we're actually we're not even that happy with them so far but uh but it's a way to measure your cardio output. And at first, they all thought that everyone was going to take it like kind of chill. But, you know, one guy throws down and another guy trash talks and another guy posts big numbers. And all of a sudden, it's like, you know what?

If everyone had agreed to coast, I would coast. But everyone had to give 100%. All four guys on their competition ended up amongst the millions of people that have this. I made up that number, but whatever. They were 0.01%. That's how elite they were over the course of the month. They crushed it.

It turns out that if we keep up a pace like this at all, it's going to be pretty elite too. I can guarantee you Kyle won't maintain this pace. We'll see. I don't feel sore. I feel pretty fucking good. The second ice bath I took this afternoon was super helpful um i was i was starting to get a little fatigued and i was just dripping with sweat and i was at

like a thousand meps and uh and i i put like i think i already said but 76 pounds of ice in the in the tub and to the point where like the top layer was just thick ice everywhere it was like a glass of iced water to get in i this is beneficial what is this doing is this keeping your heart rate up as you're bathing no no no um so so an ice water bath an ice water bath draws all the blood out of your out of the muscles that are in the uh in the ice water go into your you know your organs trying to keep you alive and in doing so it pulls all the lactic acid out of those muscles. It pulls all the toxins, anything that's in there out.

And when you warm back up after the bath, new blood is going in and helping to repair those muscles. I'm actually not sure how much of this is real science and how much is bro science. But top athletes seem to be doing it. Yeah, I read about it a lot. Yeah, I read about it a lot. I feel like I wasn't on here that long ago maybe like a month or two two months i don't remember what it's been now but i think last time you're telling me about the block of cheese you

ate each night so it seems like quite a quite a like turn the corner here how are the two not mutually like a oh he'll he'll be heading to ice cream and then it was like what it did to your bowels and then like this time it's like if you come on the show in six weeks you'll see cheese block kyle again yeah i'm looking forward to cheese block kyle i miss my cheese but but but now it's you know it's competitive kyle i want to win this thing because the winner gets gets a golden championship belt he gets his meEP device paid for. It was $180. So I'd like to get that done. And we've worked out a few punishments for the losers.

I made a post last night because I saw people were unhappy with the punishments that we'd come up with. And there were a lot more punishments that they came up with. One of them that's very interesting, I'll run it by you guys, was wearing a dog shock collar throughout an episode of the show. And I figured the best way to trigger it is on command, you've got to bark. Yeah, that would work. So the fans have all kind of placed their bets as to who's going to win this thing, right?

And I would say taylor was getting two-thirds of the first place votes kyle was getting the other third and you and chis were about even most people thought i would get third and chis would get fourth okay with a few you know but the the reason behind is because people didn't understand what the competition was and this is why like as far as the punishments go, I'm not doing anything painful. I'm not doing anything embarrassing. I'm not doing anything disgusting.

And reason being is that, like, breaking the fourth wall here, this isn't a fair competition in the least. Because I'm older? People think that it's a working out-based thing where it's how hard you work out. That's not true. As Kyle said, this is a grinding competition. It's all about time, how much time you can get your heart rate high.

If you go and look at our workouts right now, I have the highest MEP per minute by a good margin. Like I'm working out harder. But this morning I woke up, used the couple hours I had allotted, got 400 points. I was earning points faster than any of the workouts on there. And then I had to go do obligatory stuff you should just so like for time you should just yeah i'll quit my job i'll

stop looking for houses no not even a joke to this but if you you should to make the competition fair it shouldn't be how much you can you do in a day or how much you can do across it should be how you should set a number of hours you guys get to work out for per day on that and do that so it's held even because then the competition is how hard can you work out there and can compare to each other as opposed to just i mean it becomes a different competition i suppose it would be a different competition for sure well it's uh if you so let's look at this there's 480 waking hours in a month assuming you sleep eight nights or eight hours a There's 480 waking hours in a month, assuming you sleep eight hours a night. Oh, waking hours.

Waking hours. Already you've limited yourself quite a bit. Let's be severely conservative with the things I have to do that I'm obliged to do, that I can't blow off to work out. Let's say over the course of four and a half weeks, like very conservative, 180 hours that I don't have that you guys have it takes me down to 300 on the month where you guys have 480 like i literally am working with two-thirds of the time if that and so it's like annoying when it's like you guys have noticed and the listeners have too that i've

been tamping down the punishments because like why would i sign up for something and be like oh yeah let's let chiz and kyle go hog wild making ideas and crazy shit. Because they know they're not going to have to end up doing it. They know. Like, Kyle knows there's a 0% chance he's going to have to do this. Chiz knows there's a 0% chance. And, Woody, I think at this point, like, with what you've shown that you can do today, there's a 0% chance. Like, really, this is a – my goal in this, and I've made it – like, I've talked about it before.

I want to get third. I want to fucking humiliate one of you because it would be humiliating to lose to someone who has 180 less hours to devote to this. So make this fair. Or we can make it fair. You guys give me 14 days after the competition, 12 days. No, no, no, no, no, no.

We don't get to do it. But my whole point, like, no, no, no. Simple math. We're not going to correct the math stuff because this is what the competition is. I'm just making it clear like that's why I've been tamping down the punishment stuff because I was more motivated by the winning. And frankly, my biggest motivation the whole time has been to beat one of you. I don't care which one, but I really want to beat one of you because that's what I think is probably – and even that's not really attainable. So like, no, I don't like –

No, you're going to beat Chiz. i don't know you're gonna be chis i don't like how no i'm not gonna end up eating cheese no but no but but i'm the favorite because they thought they thought of it as like how hard can you work out thing so perfect example i was getting 3.44 meps per minute when i worked out this morning for two hours on the bike woody you got and i got 413 meps two hours wo before the show, you did a workout where your average heart rate was 55%, but you have the time to do whatever you want there. And so you earned 140

maps over the course of 100 minutes, a rate that I will never be able to get. So I'm basically competing with all of your guys' cheese points. Have you thought about being less healthy? And so, like, real quick, does anybody deny that this is grossly, grossly unfavorable to me?

I've taken a couple, I don't know, pieces of negative feedback about how light my workouts were. They were really long and they were really light. And it's strategic for me. That's a good strategy.

I'm actually really worried about how my recovery time is not as good as the younger guys. So I'm trying not to spend a lot of time in that like lactic acid. I don't think lactic acid is even real. But, you know, if I were to do Taylor's, I read it was. I don't know. I thought it was muscle breakdown.

But whatever the fuck. If I were to mirror Taylor's workout, I think my soreness would get so cumulative that i'd ruin myself to be fair i'm not getting cheese points if you look at like this imager link here these are like last night's workouts i'm staying in the red or the yellow for like two hours at a time now there is a cool down period where i just leave the thing on afterwards until i get down to like you know i'm not earning any more maps but that's just me like sitting in my computer like this is also this is day one like if you don't think that by day five you're gonna you're still be wearing so like just a point of comparison kyle wore his device for 10

hours plus today i wore mine for two well you could have worn it all day how many ice baths did you have i you know i didn't have time because I had obligations. No, no, it doesn't take time to win. And then I came back here and then started doing this. And I can't ride my bike after this. I've got to go to bed. So adjust for that. So let's say you have a third of the time, Taylor. But there's not really a way to adjust for it without ruining the competition.

No, you might maybe see this, by the way. Here's the thing. I'll take that deal, too,. You just do whatever I did and then multiply it by a third so I get free points. You do it by whatever his hourly commitment is for his work. If it turns out it's 40 hours a week, in the course of a month

that's 160 hours he doesn't have compared to anybody else. 160 hours of rest. Take the percentage of time that you guys have more than him and adjust it by that. I get that it's not true, Ress, but if I have to like fucking pedal my bike while he – what I'm guessing is a cube job. I don't know. Then that's not equivalent, right? You can't give his recovery time points because he can't spend it exercising.

No, but it's not recovery time because I have to sleep eight hours as well. No, if I understand Filthy's proposal right, it's that you bust your ass for like two hours before work and then you get three hours of that to account for the fact that you're busy. No, no, no. I think – yeah, he was meaning to add a third. I don't like that idea because then it's like – it's not fair because then I can bust my ass in a way that I wouldn't be able to for three straight hours, for two hours, and I get that extra credit. And that's not fair either. Like, my whole point, I want to keep running it exactly the way it is. But I also want at least a little, like, this is the whole point for me. Like, I went into this competition knowing I was going to lose. Not, you know, 50%, like, realistically probably 90%.

Just because this is a game of time. Like, Chiz has beaten me badly right now now because he just has so much more time. Have you seen his workouts? Well, Chiz only had one workout, right? Yeah, but he was wearing it for like seven hours or six hours or something crazy. Was it that long? I thought only mine was. No, no, that was yours and Kyle's.

I think Chiz had it on for like four or five hours. But he had all day to do it if he wanted to. It's funny, Taylor. I also went into this thinking that like i don't want to say i can't win or that i'm a super long shot but i uh i i don't i don't want to get embarrassed like i woke up this morning you had 400 600 and i think it was 900 for kyle with the first scores i saw and i like, this is a very public failing. You know, I am at zero.

I'm behind by 900. Get going, asshole. You don't want that, like, I'm not going to get, like, blown out of the water. I probably will, but given the time discrepancy, I would hope that proportionally i'm doing well like i'm gonna work my ass off i'm gonna do as best as i can but i'm also not gonna be like yeah loser has to get tased it would literally be like i did the math it would be like for like

all right guys we're having a 10th prestige race and we first one to get there the last one to get there has to get punished now chiz kyle and woody will play at 1.6 uh experience multiplier and taylor will play at one what are your guys bets what do you do you think who do you think is going to do the best like of course you guys are going to beat me like even if i'm the better cod player you're gonna you're gonna fall into it like at the end of the day like the whole people are like oh the chip sucks it was like i brought the chip up as almost like an olive branch because I know that I'm the one that's going to have to do it. I was like, yeah, this is going to suck.

The chip is a very spicy Dorito painful to eat. Yeah, it's like the hottest chip, whatever the fuck. And they're like, oh, that's lame. That's not enough. And it's like, yeah, I get that it's not like losing a finger digit or getting tased or having to wear a dog collar and get your nipples pierced. Yeah. Or getting your nipples pierced or something. Very popular. No, I'm not going to, I'm not doing that. Like I, I agreed to like what I consider to be a very uncomfortable and painful thing.

Eating that chip. I was like a, yeah, I'll do something. I know I'm going to lose. But then when like, you know, uh, you know, it's all these punishments aren't good enough. Don't, he's a piercing nipple. It's like, no, I'm not, I'm not to lose. But then when like, you know, you know, it's, oh, these punishments aren't good enough. Don't, he's a piercing nipple. It's like, no, I'm not, I'm not doing that kind of shit. I'm not joining a competition that is, is tremendously biased against me,

like for the punishment, like the whole thing. I wanted the reward to be the biggest part. I wanted the bragging rights to be bigger than worried about getting fucking tased. Cause like, even like the weekends,

like I can't even be like, oh, I'm gonna spend 10 hours this saturday doing this no i gotta find a fucking house i'm spending seven hours a day on the weekend looking at houses like i i gotta i got shit i gotta do like if you consider jogging i don't have the i'm just gonna i'm gonna do jumping jacks in somebody's open house that's what i'm gonna do only looking homes with gyms yeah and so like like i'm excited to do it go up and down the stairs i'm gonna bust my fucking ass i'm gonna bust my ass as hard as i can but no i'm not i'm not doing some ridiculous fucking punishment you have to be careful about

uh letting viewers choose punishments too because uh like sometimes they don't just don't see you as like a real three-dimensional person. They'll be like, yeah, loser amputates an arm. That's good content. Loser gets a nipple pierced. It's like, no, I'm not doing it. Loser gets tattooed. No, I'm not doing it.

And, of course, Kyle and Chiz are like, hey, we're down for any punishments whatsoever because we've got nothing but time to spend on this competition. Whereas I'm like, well, of of course now i look like the fucking wet rag because i don't want to agree to essentially ensuring that i lose like here's like all right we're gonna have a competition we each have a month to see you can learn to ice skate backwards the fastest i have the punishment is you have to stand under boiling water for three seconds here's what i'd like to throw out there taylor and get your feedback on it i feel like the first night of this competition is a very

weak indicator of what to expect from this competition, right? It's a weak day for you. I slept the first night. Kyle worked it, and I don't know when Chiz did his exercise, but you know, both of them came so strong out of the gate. Sunday night, or maybe even next show, will at least tell us what the start of the competition is like. I feel like one night isn't even the start of the competition. It's a professional day. This isn't even coming from today.

This is like, I've been saying the whole time. Do you have one 24-hour period, Taylor? In this month, do you have one 24-hour period you could devote entirely to this? No, not even close. There may be days where I can't do anything at all because I have, there's stuff I can't blow off. Like there's probably going to be at least a weekday or two or a day on the weekend or something where I get zero maps. Cause I, I, I just don't have time.

Like I'll just have to like run in place with it on and get like a hundred or something. And like, you said I had a bad day today. By the amount of time that I had to put into it, I did the best of any of us as MEPs per minute. That's just not true. You keep saying that, but I really don't think – I had long periods where I went at 77% of my max or whatever, and those numbers get skewed because as you're powering it on, there's like 10 minutes of no MEPS, right? That's actually helping my point because it's showing that you have enough time that you can go in and out of a workout as you feel and take your time. I'll leave it on for seven hours if I want.

Look at the actual thing. I got 413 MEPS in two hours and three minutes. That's 3.4 something MEPS. Your highest was right around 3, I think. And then you had another one that was around 2.1. I mean, if you look at your heart rate, though, you're going to green a lot. Like you don't have any of the consistent yellow like I do that has red spikes in it. But isn't that also part of your overall fitness?

Won't your yellow, won't you be like, for example, if you have someone who's very, very out of shape going to do workout, like the same workout with the same level of intensity is going to spike them super hard into red for heart rate yeah but they have to but they have to maintain that like you have to maintain that for hours i was in the yellow for like two hours last night like i yeah i was this morning like i love the actual competition of this i just don't like the evolution of the punishments of it to where it's like now like i have like i'm going to prioritize this and do my best at it obviously because i want to i want to get third i want to humiliate one of you frankly that is you have no idea how motivating it is for me that one of you might lose to someone who had fucking two-thirds of the time

if that to devote to this that would be a big reward for me like a pride thing but like the evolution of punishment's like no it's really not fair like i'm not doing something humiliating or that to devote to this that would be a big reward for me like a pride thing but like the evolution of punishment it's like no it's really not fair like i'm not doing something humiliating or gross or or painful uh for a competition that i'm not gonna like my punishment that i suggested like of having to eat something really unpleasant or third place having to make some content like i even made it so that if i got third which was was my best fucking option, I was still getting punished. Punished. But apparently making content isn't a punishment, which is fair.

But it's something that's kind of, I thought, an incentive. I don't know. Maybe everybody. Did the viewers kind of revolt against that? No, it was the most. It was the highest voted one as of last week. Where they were like, it got like over 400. And they were like, make content.

Did you have a different opinion, Kyle? Yeah. A lot of people seem to think that making content shouldn't be a punishment. You should just do it. It got over 400 and they were like, make content. Did you have a different opinion, Kyle? A lot of people seem to think that making content shouldn't be a punishment. You should just do it. I thought it was something they would like to we lose and they win kind of thing. It was something they wanted to see. It got over 400 upvotes there. It's just

a little... Can you guys put yourself in my shoes? I get it. I'm not arguing i i feel like so i understand the position you're in and i feel like everyone but kyle is in that position to some extent too um like for me i'm 45 and i i know how i feel right now i'm i'm wearing down a bit. And I felt less sore on one of my test runs. And the next day I was sore. So I'm like, I'm going to come in tomorrow. This could be just a cumulative downgrade thing, right? That's what's in my head. And I'm nervous. And I'm, I really care. And I

don't want to be embarrassed. This is really public. So that's the spot I'm in. And I think Chiz, I mean, I was talking, I was goofing about my, not goofing, I would have taken it if you guys gave it to me, but about the points I earned before the contest started. Chiz is like, he was saying that with his weight, he was at a severe disadvantage too. So it's my age, Chiz's weight, your time. What's Kyle's handicap? Kyle's winning. I see. Yeah, so I feel like a lot of us are like, man, I don't know how the

heck I'm going to do this. Yeah. I'm not looking to force any punishments on anyone. Um, you know, if anything, I should be like bucking for more like things for first place, right? Like, like that would be the smart thing for me to be doing. But, but look, look, I'm, I think this thing is going to be fun. I'm looking forward to, to, you know, I'm probably going to drop 15 or 20 pounds in this thing.

The thing says I burnt like 7,000 or 8,000 calories today. I rode eight or nine miles. I ran two miles. And, you know, I did random calisthenics throughout the day. I'm looking forward to just having better cardio. I'm going to have sex in the morning, and I look forward to seeing what that does, right? Like I have no idea. That bitch will have to wait.

I got meds to earn. So what I mean when I say, like, make the punishment whatever you want is I'm not concerned with the punishments. Like, I want people to enjoy watching this thing and provide content for them, but I'm not looking to put you in any kind of a shitty position. I recognize that you just have less time. I still think I would outwork you if we had the same time but that's irrelevant the the the time is the one one a head-to-head where we both have a free week or just a free 24-hour period one time in the entire month clear that time and do this day is the day for you know in the future if if you get that 24 hours, let me know.

That'd be a fun little one-day competition. That would be fun. I would do that. I'd love to do it. I'd love to do it. That'd be very fun. I'm pretty confident. For what it's worth, it's not fair to do that during this competition. Because my strategy is I can't do that kind of intensity and then work out the following day. I can't do that kind of intensity and then work out the following day. Right. If I play this 25 year old game for 25 year olds game of, um,

you know, busting your ass for one day in the middle of this, like that doesn't work for me. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm talking about the future, you know,

long after the future, after these have long broken middle of this competition, honor system. I, I, I could talk about this all night because it's occupying most of my thoughts the original name for this was no fucks november and the idea was that you don't care about anything else and to me that is counterintuitive like no fucks meaning it's the only thing you give a fuck about but uh it is the primary thing on my mind right now. Yeah, for sure.

I'm enjoying it a lot. And regardless of what punishments are and what rewards are, I'm going to give it all of God. And I really, like, I would like to beat Joe Rogan's score. I think that that would be a really good score. We'll see. We'll see. You know, maybe in two weeks i just fall apart um we'll see i'm gonna do the best i can uh i've been trying to rotate muscle groups and not

put so much on any one muscle group so when it when something gets sore i completely switch uh exercises and go to something else that that doesn't activate that muscle group and then the ice baths i've got to say is that really did help. Is that working for you? Which part? So I burned my legs today. I used a lot of legs. It seemed like when I needed to get my heart rate up, my legs were my moneymaker.

I did some pull-ups. I can't do pull-ups all that long. Well, it was also like I like being good at pull-ups, so I'm not going to quit those. I did sit-ups. I was like, yeah, I'm going to do some bicycles on your back. I don't know what the hell they're not going to quit those um i did sit-ups i was like yeah i'm gonna do some like bicycles and and you know on your back i don't know what the hell they're called i did some crunches and such and four minutes into crunching i'm like well this is just not a six hour exercise yeah i almost immediately One thing I found is like,

while I'm on the rowing machine, I'll row for maybe 10, 15 minutes until like my legs are starting to burn and I'll max my heart rate out. I'll get up to like 175 or something like that till it peaks in red. If you look at the imager link, you'll notice that a lot of the screenshots,

I'm in the red. And that's because I would go to the red and then take my screenshot and send it to Chiz. And I, cause I didn't want to fall below yellow. I wanted to give myself a buffer so that like my heart rate could slowly go down, but not both to the point where I was in the green zone where you're only getting three maps per minute. But what I would do, like when I wasn't taking screenshots and texting Chiz, I I've got a roller like a, like a muscle roller. It's like a giant rolling pin, but it's, but it's a little softer and it's got like knobs on it. And I would like hyper extend my, my legs and I would just roll my legs

furiously like dirt. And I've got the watch that keeps track of my heart rate as well. So I'm just constantly looking at that thing. And anytime I get close to like 157, 158, where I'm almost at that point where I go to green, I'm like, oh, oh, whoop, whoop, whoop. And I go back to working again. I rolled my legs so hard last night that they're bruised. You rode your legs? Rolled. Like rolling the muscles out with that thing to deal with the soreness. Damn. I think I'm going to be a little more consistent so the things i was doing today weren't great at

maintaining a heart rate like i was kiting my wing right so that's off and on and moving around i went for a walk which is really good for maintaining a steady rate except that we did it through the woods you know on trails and stuff so it was uphill downhill and and like i don't know ducking under trees and stuff it wasn't a downhill and and like i don't know ducking under trees and stuff it wasn't a nice steady thing tomorrow i might go more steady and just bust out time yeah i uh that's the strategy is like if you have a ton of time you don't have to stay in orange or yellow like you can just hang out in blue and green but if you hang out in that zone for even the gray like for five hours like you're you're getting a fuck ton yeah gray's a little low so

like five hours is 300 minutes in gray is 300 maps oh but like you'll get up into blue a good bit and like green for sure blue and green you know because blue is easy as shit like that's as easy as gray for the most part if you just hang out right at 60 like because i fucked around with it a little bit i i not to be a spoiler i think tomorrow i'm gonna log a fuck ton of blue time let's see if i can back up my words but we'll see i'm i'm gonna do the same thing again tomorrow i'm gonna try to maintain yellow for for two, three hours at a time and just knock out a whole bunch of maps. Yellow is full points, right? Quadruple, multiple?

Yeah. Does it go down again on red? Say that again. Red is worthless. Red is even higher. Red is like 90 to 100% of your maximum heart rate, which these things consider to be 190 beats per minute. So it's wasteful to even go to red. I only go to red i only go to

red if it's an accident or if i'm trying to like give myself that buffer zone to like do a thing and while i'm not working out mostly text false red no no i think i did like so i got one of these things you guys are using as well when i when i signed up for nine round they give you one of these that you wear as you're working out and it's the same color coding and it's the same BPM stuff that they're looking at. Is it also called MyZone? I don't think so. Because there are gyms that are like MyZone partners and stuff. Maybe.

But maybe, maybe it is one of those, but yeah. I'm a big fan of it. Yeah, I got my heart rate way higher than I thought yesterday or I guess this morning, like as I was starting to do the bike i got off and did some uh just like some chest press and then some like farmers carries just to see and like i got up to like 86 with farmers carries like your forearms burn like hell and you can't do it for that long but like i feel like if i chain workouts the right way i could turn weight lifting into being pretty

effective too. Cause I definitely want to make, keep weightlifting throughout this. Like, I don't want to just go full cardio. I mean, like I don't have a rowing machine. I don't have any upper body cardio stuff, I guess. Yeah. I love, love, love the rowing machine for this. I feel like it's working enough muscle groups that each one I can do that, you know, each one's, it's diversified between them all. And, and, you know, I can sort of change which ones are being focused on. If my legs start burning, I'm like, all right, well, more, more like shoulder, more like shoulder rolling back and more, more like of a, of a curling thing. And if they, and if I start getting sore, like, you know, around my bicep like inner elbow area i just reverse the grip and go to

something different like i i've i've spent a lot of time and effort trying not to burn any one muscle group out that's a big fear smart yeah yeah i have you all only rode so far other than jog like jog and row that's it uh yeah pretty much although like the the jogging was nice i i enjoyed that a lot like i felt like that was very effective for this um but the rowing was nice because i've got my television right in front of the rowing machine i watched like four or five episodes of ozark last night while i while i did this and it was it was good and i've got my drink right next to me and and like my phone and my vape and everything and like i've got everything I need right there in a sitting position. My ass is the sorest thing on me just from sitting on the seat.

Yeah, I'm going to put a towel down on that fucking bike. I've got a towel down on it now. Chiz, before this thing started, Chiz and I share links, like the things we're buying, little devices and such. And he sent me this cushion for your rowing machine chair. There's some collusion going on over there. And I was like, what up? I was like, what up, pussy?

Confirmed collusion. What up? Is that your little pussy pillow, Chiz, for your fucking fat ass for this rowing machine chair? Is this your little pussy pillow? I ordered one this afternoon it will be here tomorrow thank god chis linked me that he was 100 right because like you're doing this sort of

rocking motion so your ass is like like rolling back and forth on this hard it's cushioned but it's hard cushioning like a motorcycle seat or something like that. And like six, seven hours of that, and your fucking ass is sore. So he was absolutely right. I'm worried about Chiz. I don't know what's going to happen with Chiz. Chiz, I'm texting Chiz last night, and I sent him my screenshots. When did he do his workout? He did a couple workouts, I believe.

He did one last night around three or four a.m something like our time which is super generally what i think of as prime workout time well you know this thing was kicking off this thing was kicking off and then i and i'm sharing him you know i'm i'm like i'm going for 500 before i go to bed and he's like holy shit i gotta do something so if you look at his like like and he's even said it to me he's like i can't hold it in the yellow as long as you can and you know i he falls to green so he's got like these these yellow pillars and then twice as much green and then another yellow and then twice as much green and then another yellow you're a console gamer at all kyle pc exclusively yeah so did any of you guys like i'm showing the

wrong camera there we go no it's oh you're showing this guy okay so have any of you guys like i'm showing the wrong camera there we go no it's oh you're showing this guy okay so have any of you guys thought about any of like the standing desk stuff or like a treadmill at the desk or some sort of workout to do while you're gaming yeah we already invested in that um we did agree that we would not work out during the show because we felt like it would affect the show but i have an under desk peddler yeah i i have one of those i i haven't put it together yet um mostly because like all this other stuff is so good on one of the shows about how yours was so expensive and kyle and chiz are so silly mine's cheap it sucks it's so light you you have to like carefully pedal it so it doesn't move all the time you try to use it.

It comes with like a bungee or something. You're supposed to mount it to your chair. I haven't done that yet. Hold that bitch to some plywood. Yeah, I considered that. That would make it better. It was a total – mine was a total waste of $75. Really? There's – yeah, like there's no way.

I was like sitting, like doing some work at my desk, and I was like, oh, let's give this a go. Not even with the MEP machine. Was this at home or at work? At work. And this is like, didn't even have the MEP thing on. This is when it arrived last week, and I was just giving it a go. And like, I have to be sitting this far back from the computer

so my knees can like row, or pedal up, and the distance of the pedal isn't like a normal pedal it's like this it's a teeny little distance and so it's pretty much i have a standing desk and so i like lifted it up and like stood on it and now i'm a foot taller like reaching down at it and i'm like oh my ass like and i'm doing this and like i must have done it for like two minutes before i'm like not only am i not burning calories i'm gonna fall my ass like and i'm doing this and like i must have done it for like two minutes before i'm like not only am i not burning calories i'm gonna hurt myself like doing this and so i i so you're worried about the humiliating punishment that i was hoping that like i would get some cheese points like at work sometimes and be like all right i can roast some stuff out and

or uh peddle some stuff out and like i realized like that's not gonna to fucking happen. Like that, that's just, I'm not gonna, I don't not going to be able to, like, I'm gonna have to do all my stuff at home or running. I find that. So you get points at 50% of your max heart rate. And while that number is super easy to hit, you do have to be doing something to hit it. Like if I were to say, do the dishes, I would be in and out of points. I'd be earning them at a rate of a MEP every three or four minutes. It doesn't get you shit.

If you want to earn some MEPs, you have to earn some MEPs. Are you wearing it now, Kyle? During the show, 31 MEPs. Now, it wouldn't be too much for Kyle to hit 50 if he pumped his arms and did a thing, but he'd have to try. We agreed not to do it during the show.

We agreed not to work out. You hit this thing on. Yeah, strap that bitch on. Maybe you'll get a little boisterous. Yeah, it happens. It happens. I want to... Oh, and I'm in the blue.

I'm in the blue. Wait, are you in the blue? Yeah, I'm in the blue, baby! We're on a Meps! Woo! Fuck. Heart rate's 117 right now. That ain't healthy. Alright, so now we're into the first show of the competition. Two of the three hosts

have already broken the rule. No, we agreed not to work out, and I'm not An hour into the first show of the competition, two of the three hosts have already broken the rule. No. We agreed not to work out, and I'm not working out. The issue was that working out, like pedaling, would cause a problem for the show. But I'm going to wear the thing all the time.

I don't see any issue. I don't know why you'd ever take it off. I think I'm going to charge mine instead. I'm worried. The battery's strong. I'm gonna charge mine instead i'm worried the battery's strong i shouldn't worry but i'm worried that like that isn't accurate and i'll not get credit for something that's a big fear yeah um you can overcharge it i i found out last night so like and i was terrified i had like nuked mine and ruined it but like i don't know i got it to work again still in the blue killing it i don't know how you're in the blue. Well, this is not good content.

And just to clarify, just as an outside party, this is a serious competition. You're not just trolling Taylor right now. No, this is a very serious competition. I thought it would be a very, very good joke. This would be a very elaborate ruse for me to work out six and a half hours trying to make Taylor anxious. It's very high i was impressed oh taylor got so nervous so nervous to be able to say no at the end of the month kyle how many reps have you earned so far

during the show uh 34 see i feel like we need to back 34 off. Yeah, no. Let's just not wear the devices on the show because part of it was that even if you're not working out, you're going to be looking at it the whole time. Can you put it on someone else during the show? Can you hire someone to be doing

the same level of workout that you were if you had that time? If we were cheaters. That's not in your rules look and don't and and pay no attention to ugambe the african child who's now living with me he just needed a place to stay yeah and yes i'm forcing him to run behind my car four hours a day he likes it he loves cars if you see a kenyan doing laps around my block while i fly around he's not working for me he's just mr woody i am very tired please i have earned you so many mips and what he's like well not enough give me a hand you know this is yeah yeah well i'm looking forward i just want to see like the big thing is i've put

off like getting into proper amounts of cardio for so long like i'm really hoping that this kind of like get up early and do cardio trend will become a habit dude like that would be so i like i feel really good right now and like after like when I was going to meetings and shit today, like after I had like, did a pretty solid workout on the bike for a couple hours. I was like, man, I don't feel tired. I feel more alert. I feel better.

I guarantee by hour three of this show, I'm exhausted. You're going to sleep really well. I slept so well last night. I usually wake up two or three times in the night. No, fell right to sleep. And you're 18 hours into day one of a month-long competition right yeah we absolutely are i get that i i i'm not it never felt better you're not slowing down right you're living the fucking dream right now your body is just telling you that this is working i feel i feel energized i feel really good good. Like I feel good.

My neck is cramping. 18 hours into a month-long competition, you feeling good? Yeah. Well, I just had the first five ounces of steak of my 72-ounce challenge, and I'm still hungry. Good for you. I feel like Kyle's smiling. Like he knows something we don't. I don't even want to call him. I feel like Kyle's smiling. Like he knows something we don't.

No, I don't even want to call him. I'm not even pointing fingers. If you keep this pace up, it sounds absolutely batshit insane to me. If you do that and manage it for the month and you're still saying that, I mean, for sure. It seems like blind optimism to be expressing how you feel after three quarters of day one. Kyle was never a junior varsity athlete.

He doesn't know i'm not saying that that has any bearing on what the month will be like i understand that there is going to be a sliding scale with this whole thing where by the end of the month like joe rogan was literally urinating brown and and he said because his muscles were deteriorating they're like falling apart he's pissing out muscle fiber like i I get that like 30 days of this is, is not possible for someone like me who doesn't have like an acumen of cardio experience or anything like that. However, I do know that I have a lot of willpower and I have plenty of time and that I will, I'll push myself to maybe not get 1500 a day because that's literally more than Joe Rogan ever got.

But I don't know, 900 a day every day. I don't see why I can't do that. I want to share this. It's somewhere around 450 meps. I had an inner dialogue and it went something like this. Those fuckers don't know who they're dealing with. I was a good athlete, a cardio athlete. My body responds well to cardio training.

I've had, I have a really big pair of lungs and, and I've just been good at this stuff. Always. This is a has been against a bunch of never was is here. It comes bitches. That was four 50, right?

At seven 50. I'm like, what is this soreness going to feel like tomorrow? I'm 45. What was 450, Matt? What are you thinking, that retard? Why didn't you take a break? Nick, it would have been smarter to earn 450 every day and feel like that every day.

You know, goddammit, I'm only a few years away from getting discounted meals at IHOP. I've got to slow this down. If I could continue a 400 and whatever, 13 pace a day, I'd beat Joe Rogan. Yeah. He only had like 12,000 at the end of the month. They were very proud of their scores. It could be they know something we don't. They may have more than 18 hours of experience.

I think the issue was they had very little time. Rogan had very little time to actuallygan had very little time to like actually do this between like doing multiple podcasts a day and having a family of four and all the other like financial responsibilities he has you know doing ufc stuff and so when he did go he went super hard like in the four hours that he would have he tried to spend those four hours in the yellow like like or five at like like his none of his workouts were like seven hours they were all like four hours five hours of just intensity in their recaps though they said they all had tons of time so none of them have uh regular day jobs like taylor does and they all just considered themselves like they could devote all the time they needed to it yeah that's what

they said about themselves competition it's mainly about time which is frustrating but i'm like i really really want to get third place like i can't tell you how much it motivates me to want to beat one of you it's what are you predicting i'm like it's mainly about you if you hit your goal about fitness no it's mainly about time it's mainly about time and determination more than fitness like if you want to see lose taylor the most oh i don't care i i just want to beat someone like as if i get third sure sure but you do it you beat someone and as a cherry on top you get to pick ideally it would be kyle okay but that's not gonna happen like i would like beating kyle would be don't even make me a belt i've got plenty of reward like that that would be the dream but i don't i don't see why is that because kyle is like he's got the perfect trifecta of it he's got

nothing but time he's extraordinarily determined with these kinds of things like he's like kyle's gonna drop off my prediction because of physical need to drop off i will but his mentality will not drop off he will be just as into it and dedicated week three as he is right now as my prediction as i've been hearing about this uh i actually peaked already in my interest in having done something like this like if i were part of this i'd be like yeah for like the first 45 minutes we talked about it and then we started i'd hour 18, like stopped, went to have beers, decided this was a terrible idea in the first place. We'll maybe devote 20 minutes a day to it.

Like that would be like, that would be solidly set up for this on me. Filthy earning 30 meps a day. Yeah. I walk into your store and lifting the beer in of itself will put me into the blue, you know, this type of thing. Well, I had a mean shit.

Yeah, exactly. I worked up, up you know my blood pressure went up i was straining you know like that that's you know what would be funny to do with this is like wear it and then just like masturbate like jim norton where you just edge yourself for like six hours see how many points you can get yeah i bet you wouldn't get very many i it doesn't take that much effort to master like i said i got a young lady coming over in the morning like around 10 a.m or something like that and i'm looking forward to seeing i already told she knows all about this thing and and and she's like i'm gonna work you hard all right hell yeah yeah this would be this would be a fun workout this is one of the you know you talk about like you know if i was playing dodgeball whenever i played dodgeball on the or playing in the swimming pool with some kids or whatever, you know, you go super hard for like two hours and you don't even realize you've done it. Sex is the perfect example of that.

You're going to, she's going to be like, I want to get on top. And you're like, no, this is about the competition. Like this is me on top, always doing the thrusting. Get back in the swing. I'm back in blue because you had to open your stupid whore mouth. always doing the thrusting get back what was it saying i'm back in blue because you had to open your stupid whore mouth yeah i'm looking forward to seeing how this pans out i want i'm i'm also going to use it when i fuck and see how many calories not calories oh the calories thing on this is nonsense i don't know where the technology connection is where they can record this kind of

stuff but every device on earth is like well he ran for 45 minutes that sounds like 6 000 calories like it's like it's not even close like it told me this morning in two hours i burned like 1800 calories or something crazy is it possible they're lumping in bmr i don't know bmr is oh the basic metabolic basic metabolic rate. You're going to burn 2,200 calories a day. Did it ask you for age and weight when you entered this stuff? It did, but it didn't mention including that. I'm not sure. It's almost certainly if it's giving stuff like that, right?

And is it just as percent? Because Kyle was saying it was like a percentage out of 190 or something for our heart rate. But some of these are, are you sure it's that? It's not adjusted for age? No, it's not that exactly. It is adjusted for age it's a little right a little lower for yeah mine's 190 yeah i see mine's 191 or something like that but yeah like 1838 calories in two hours and three minutes no like that's that's not possible

there's no way like you can't burn that many calories in two hours riding a stationary bike watching six episodes of king of the hill it's not possible which i i'm so glad i found a show that like i like binging again before we started this because i'm going to get through all of king of the hill again i'm going to have to find another series to binge that's that might be one of the big challenges here are bingeable seasons kyle that must be something you're thinking about struggling because you've watched every season of everything at least once. I've got stuff.

I've got stuff. Brooklyn Nine-Nine has a lot of content there. I listened to a lot of music today when I ran, and that was really motivating. Like, I just had it on YouTube Shuffle, and I was kind of running at the pace of the song that was playing. So, like, all of a sudden, like, John Denver, denver country boy comes on it's like a laugh on the farm and i'm just like all right fucking running it up you know what i do is i listen to hitler speeches

loudly so that i can imagine that i am on the equivalent of seal team six in 1942 and that i'm the special trained op who's going to take down the furor and if i don't hit 400 meps on this bike holocaust so that's how i motivate myself and you're a history fan right you know that happened huge fan presumably you failed yeah it's not real motivational ah damn it yeah i mean kyle made a lot of compelling points that episode but yeah i'm yeah really hoping to lose at least 12 pounds i can't do music 12 pounds in four weeks is three pounds a week right that's a pretty hefty calorie deficit oh yeah that's like a stretch goal like filthy do you think it's not i mean i'm I'm not an expert. No, no, no, I do.

I think I wasn't nodding at that. I was trying to think, yeah, like when you do any of this stuff, have you ever done like calorie counting stuff or anything like that? Like a pretty common goal is about like a pound a week. And three times that is a lot comparatively, but it's certainly doable. Like if you're like insane about it, and Kyle seems like he is going full fucking gung-ho for that, then sure. Is he?

I don't think it's supposed to be healthy to lose that much weight all at that amount of time frame. I mean, I put on two pounds in the 10 days leading up to it, or seven days leading up to it, because we had a big delay. I do increase my caloric intake a week in advance. I don't know that that was a great strategy, but I was preparing my body for higher caloric intakes. I don't think it was a good strategy because I did the same thing. So basically like it was supposed to be just November and I got a faulty device that didn't work. And it went from taking like what I thought would be a couple of days to like a full week, a full week. Cause obviously we just started today. And so for that full week, since like two Saturdays ago, that was the last time I worked out. And I was like, ah, I'm not touching a weight or running or anything so that my heart needs extra effort to get to that point.

And I get those MEPs. And then a whole week went by where I kept saying that over and over where I was just eating like trash. I probably gained two and a half pounds in that week just eating like shit and not working out. And so that will make the three pounds a week a little easier. You think – Kyle, you think you'll lose 15? I'm thinking 12 is my goal if I can hit that many. I'd be happy if I lost six. I could easily lose 20 because like I've matched my diet up to something ridiculous like I always do.

A good bit of calories, but it's just protein shakes. It's like a scoop of protein powder, like two scoops of that like peanut butter powder, which is just, it's like peanut butter, but it's more protein and less carbs. A banana, a little milk to like make it wet and like some ice cubes. And I put like cocoa powder in there, which has zero calories. It's just like flavoring and antioxidants, I suppose, if you believe in that sort of thing. And I think that's it. I think that's all that's in there. And I mix up a big batch of it.

So I've got like two shakes worth. And, you know, I pour myself one, drink it down, put the rest in the fridge. I've had three of those today, and I'm full. I'm going to have a steak after this show, though. Are you guys pre-workout? Like are you using that? No, I've got no pre-workout. All of my supplements have to do with lactic acid and cardiovascular health.

I own pre-workout, but today all I had was whey protein. Yeah, I used pre-workout this morning, and it really helped. Yeah, but you just tweeted something about him working out, so he's doing it. Yeah, I guess. guess well he's not allowed he's not allowed no no no i was i was teasing because what he said he's not allowed either but like i think he's allowed to like yeah of course like like the only thing the only reason we said that is like we had those peddlers under desk and i and we suggested hey what if we peddled the whole during the show and saw if we could pedal for an entire show and they were like no

they'd ruin the show i'm like ah all right well we won't pedal during the show you've seen those decorative cork displays on like tables sometimes you go to someone's house they'll have like corks like i wonder where this is headed well i was just going to give you the kind of equivalent i think my wife and i are actually thinking about this now you guys talked about this a little longer involved in a similar kind of competition it's just inside our her and i though really because we have a couple friends who don't drink but wanted a cork display for some fucking unknowable reason and also didn't want to buy a cork display and they're like well you guys drink wine could you you know just have save your corks for us and we're like sure so our goal is to fill their cork jar by the end of november so i think kind of i was just thinking you know pretty much the same both in terms of

i've been working i mean it's surprisingly fucking hard like i mean i've been doing the work i've been buying the wine drinking the wine i'm willing to put in the hours for it you know time commitment these are the things that's right i wear the little monitor when i'm drinking it helps i'm in the red we call it when i'm in the you know the white right. I wear the little monitor when I'm drinking. It helps. I'm in the red, we call it, when I'm in the, you know, the white and the red are the two colors we go with. This is the red. Got a breathalyzer over there.

3.0, I'm in the red. I mean, how close are you to fill in the cork jar? Pretty close. Pretty close. Getting there. I don't know. I think they keep changing the goalposts on us. I think the jar is getting bigger. We actually wanted to fill three of them.

Do you guys feel anxious about the public nature of this competition? No, it's motivating. No, I like that it's motivating to get on your ass and do it. It's motivating. I'm looking for better phrasing than a really negative way. It's not like a... I'm looking for better phrasing than a really negative way.

It's not like a ticker tape parade type thing. It's like, if I fuck this up, this is a very public way to look like an ass. Yeah, to look like you're lazy. Yeah. That's not what you want. You don't want anybody at the end going, oh, they didn't even try.

Yeah, I'll be clear there. Unless I i injure myself that was a fear too i did a lot of my um meps skateboarding today and uh there were like moments or two where it's like if you had fucked that knee up good luck getting cardio without legs you know like you get a bicep curl your way through November? Yeah. See how that goes for you. So, yeah, I need to avoid injury all month long. No, I like it a lot. My guess is I know I'm going to win. And then I think Woody may be second. And I think that third and fourth depends on how much time Taylor does have, and it depends on if Chiz gets injured or not.

Chiz has said that he's no longer going for first. He doesn't think he can compete. But he said that he will. Ice bath tips. I was in there for 25 minutes today my toes turned purple um and he uh but he thinks he can coast a second coast a second like i like choose things i did not think woody was gonna explode with the amount of points he got today like you're you're beating him right now or he's probably beating you now because he's able to work out right now and like uh accumulate stuff but if i had to guess right now it would be

kyle woody chismy probably but we'll see yeah i think the i'd rather be one of you two than chis but i'll take a victory over chis if i can eke it out i think 18 hours into this competition, especially since I slept the first night. Because for me, it's I don't know, nine hours into the competition. It's early

to see where we stack up. Yeah. Yeah, it is early. We'll see. I'm looking forward to losing some weight. Looking better. What's the what? What's that as a percentage of the month so far? I'll just call it 1 30th.

1 30th. It's about a 50th, I guess. I'm wondering when the soreness is going to hit you, Kyle. I know you're doing a lot of things to mitigate it, but it's going to come. And I'm wondering how much all of your precautions are going to take off of it. Like maybe you just have pretty normal soreness now that you're doing all this, or maybe it actually does hit you hard. Yeah. I'm barely sore at all right now. Um, like I would say like a four out of 10, something like that. Just, just,

I feel a little bit of soreness there, but it's nothing painful. It's not like that crippling. I can't walk kind of thing. Um, I. I honestly think that the ice baths help. And if nothing else, the next day it's like, you froze your dick until it was about to go back inside of yourself last night for this contest. Let's get another fucking 300 map set. Let's run another mile. Let's row 5,000 more meters. Let's do it let's let's run another mile let's let's row

5 000 more meters let's go i like kyle's strategy the most like if i had the time i think i would have taken the same route of like doing the first couple days just trying to build a like a big sizable lead and then hopefully not getting too sore and then tapering off into a more consistent like all right 500 a day or something am going to be Mr. Blue. I think I might walk tomorrow so I can just maintain it a little more easily instead of hiking, kiting, skating and stuff.

I think the Mr. Blue strategy is a good one. I think it's the only one for a 45-year-old. Otherwise, it'll just get cumulatively more sore. Just looking at Joe Roggan's shit and his he's on steroids he's 19 then uh then his other guys like the three other guys are are not on steroids and like i looked at their numbers to try and get a feel for like a good number and

i'm like okay so like it looks like 300 meps a day 350 meps a day will equal out to almost 10 000 or so and then kyle busts out a 1500 mep day woody crushes a 700 day and shiz even gets like 600 he's busting more out now yeah and it's like what like this does not seem like the track is this irony like in the last like 30 seconds i've seen you like drink half a soda and then like puff on your fucking pipe over there and it's midway through the health competition. He's on the rowing machine with a cigarette in his hand. I got Diet Pepsi and I got

my nicotine inhaler. Neither one of those things are bad for you in my personal opinion. I'm puffing on this thing while I'm rowing. It doesn't affect cardio at all. It just gives me a little nicotine. If anything, it probably raises my heart rate slightly. I don't want to talk to you guys because I could lose this. I'm hoping Mr. Blue breaks you fucks mentally.

That's my strategy. Yeah, I mean, go for it. What I'm hoping is you guys take off your fucking Met belts right now because we had an agreement not to do this shit on the show. We absolutely did not. You can put yours on at any time. Taylor, I think if you saw my Metp belt you feel a little better here actually so i've been wearing it for i can't tell how long it is but i can tell you i've earned two meps here i'll show it to you and then the people i've earned two meps so far so nothing my soda

i'm at 57. I'm with you, Woody. You're describing an approach versus avoidance motivation for something like this where you're like, it's public. I just don't want to be seen as doing shit at this. That's kind of how I motivate for things. It's kind of how I got my master's degree. One of the first things I did was

I told other people I was going for it. Yeah, I do that too. That level of obligation now, I've said I'm going to for it. Yeah, I do that too. That level of like obligation now I've said, I'm going to do it. I need to follow up with this and do it. Everyone at work knew I was doing it. It would be a very public failure for me. And, uh, there were nights where that made me keep working. And, uh, that's, that's what's happening in my head right now. It's not entirely pleasant. Like, um, I feel like there are some people who are like, haters just make me stronger. No, haters just stop me from being as weak as I prefer to be.

Yeah, right? Yeah, like, that was always, again, for me, how I think about, like, competitions. Like, it's not, I'm not looking for, like, my absolute best peak performance. I just want to be better than the guy behind me, right? Like, I just want to do better than them, right? Like, that's the simple thing. Like, how do you win? You're better than the guy behind me. I just want to do better than them. That's the simple thing. How do you win? You're better than the guy who's second. That's not a mastery motivation for me. I'm not like, yes,

I can be the best Civ player in the world. I'm just going to be better than the rest of them. That's the motivation element. It's interesting to hear you say that too. Not everyone is like that. Some people are driven the other way from that. This is a competition with myself this is uh this is more about self-improvement and seeing what i can do see it wouldn't be for me yeah i i um for me that's exactly what it is i like the idea of

having better cardio i like the idea of losing weight uh and i like the idea of winning of course but um and i want that belt i do want that that belt. I'm looking forward to getting that thing. And yeah. And I also enjoy providing... I think it's fun and entertaining for the fans to kind of watch along. I'm going to continually post updates, I guess. I plan on working out tonight after the show

and then again in the morning. And I'll post updates as I go. Yeah, I think you should try to, psychologically, I think the most impactful times for your workouts would be during Taylor's work hours. If you can post primarily Facebook or Twitter updates during his work hours, I think you're going to do the most damage to him.

Yeah, I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to notice. The only reason that I would not be working out is if I have something that I absolutely have to do. And I've got some stuff that, you know, it's not like every day is this wide open. I do have some responsibilities and stuff to do, but it's like two hours a day, three hours a day, four hours a day. If I have to drive somewhere back and forth, stuff like that. So in my waking hours, if I have free time, it's this, it's this, this is my main concern. This is all I care about. You know, we decided to have a competition. We challenged each

other and I'm very serious about winning it. So what do you, you're a family guy and have probably a relatively normal sleep schedule. Like what time are you in bed most nights? It could be earlier, but I would say I'm in bed between 12 and 1. And I wake up. And probably up around. Eight hours later. Something like that. Yeah, okay.

Seven hours later. Yeah, so pretty standard. Probably, yeah, maybe a little bump back. Pretty standard. But yeah. Yeah, I think, again, I think you could really time these workout schedules. Like if you're getting in an hour's while Woody's sleeping, that's going to grade on him. Absolutely.

That's going to be something that he's going to notice. He's going to wake up and he's going to think think i'm fucking 900 points in the hole and it's mr blue is gonna wake up work and work and work and when i dump remind me what's the what's the the meeps whatever you're calling them per what's two per minute two minutes two per minute i'm in blue and mr blue is gonna dump a fucking thousand-met workout and shock the world. Rock-a-bye, Woody, in your soft bed. While you're asleep, I'm getting ahead. Go blue all day.

I'll go green all day. It's no problem. We'll see. Tomorrow will be an interesting day. Green is nothing. We're 18 hours into a month-long competition i know i i knew no matter what i did there would be it would be ah he's blown himself out in the first day but if but if you underperform it's ah he wasn't taking it seriously he's weak like there's no there's no way to win this thing so that about taylor well we're being

nice he didn't have enough time till didn't have enough time i mean if anything chis seems to have underperformed a good bit i i think you know it seems like he should have kept up with you i think that uh based on the numbers that the jre crew did just pulled some i thought a good score and when he didn't add more all day my thinking was that i've somewhat fallen into a trap i did more meps today than i intended to because i felt behind and i'm like i think i just took the bait you know that that i maybe worked harder than i needed to we'll see yeah see what tomorrow brings i i just don't see pain stopping me in this from from like maintaining like green for long periods of time.

Yellow can be difficult on the rowing machine. Like getting up to yellow is strenuous. But once you're in that zone, you can kind of start coasting a little bit. But getting to yellow is the hardest part of the workout. And then maintaining it for more than half an hour becomes progressively harder and harder. This is a BPM thing, right? So this is bridging heart rate. So you could probably look into ways of either cheating the little device, maybe even just incrementally.

So just like a little bit per period of time. Or alternatively, maybe you could look at ways into like tricking your body into keeping accelerating its heart rate, but not actually doing workouts. That would be another way you could work at that. Drugs or caffeine. Yes, but surely like sitting in fucking ice water maybe i don't know what your body does when you have that experience i think i slowed down i didn't notice any difference uh i i don't i didn't go stronger like kyle but i sat in my pool which is warmer but i had it and uh my heart rate slowed down like I rested anywhere else. Yeah, yeah.

I felt like my heart rate was slowing significantly. When I got out, I was shivering so hard that it, you know, I went right back up. Got some meds out of it? Okay. Yeah, I was shaking. Like, my entire lower body was completely numb. Like, I was drying off, and I had no feeling.

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for that so that's been really nice. It's been surprising for me. Like I do, I kind of sample a lot of games and kind of end up spending more time on the ones I get really interested in. It's been nice that that has worked out also with viewership numbers. So yeah, I see you. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but to pat you on the back, I see you to 1,000 viewers consistently, like all the time. Like whenever I go to Twitch to

watch whoever I'm going to watch, I'm like, you're in my favorites over there. And I'm like, ah, it's got 1,000 right now. It'll be late at night or early in the morning. Got 1,000 all the time. Yes, it's been good. It goes up and down a little bit for that. Some of the stuff that bones me is when it's getting a lot of traction. A lot

of the Hearthstone players are switching back over this way. So we're seeing some really big CCG card player streamers come back and they'll sometimes sit on the top and siphon my viewers off, which kind of sucks. But for a while there, I was one of the top streamers of that and I'm doing quite well with it, which is nice. The game is really fun. I mean, I remember this.

This is the same game I played 25 years ago as a kid. But this is now the updated client. I'm kind of getting into it a little bit again at a different level. It's a game where I get to, it's a multiplayer game again, which is super nice. So I get the competitive element of it. I like the fact that this game allows you

to set traps for your opponents. It lets you outplay your opponents. It lets you outbuild their, build decks better than your opponents in a drafting or a limited sense. It's a lot of interactions. You can deliberately force your opponent to make or set them up in positions where they can make mistakes to take advantage of it everything i

like in a multiplayer game for that and it also is really streamable on the new client like the old mtg go the client just for me like i didn't look ugly yeah it's an ugly client it's an older ugly client that was built ages ago and this is not supposed to be the sequel to that i've heard i think they're supposed to be supporting both. But damn, as someone who is new to this game, especially on the online sense, it is a much nicer client to get involved with. When did you first start playing?

June? How skill-based is it? Okay. If I were to say Blackjack, is that skill-based? Well, you know, there's a skill influence. You can make some good decisions. But there's a – especially if it's like a constant shuffler or whatever.

But a lot of Blackjack has to do with a little luck. You know, luck helps a lot. Where would you put magic on that? Man, I mean, so what are my anchorsors for like lowest lowest skill to highest skill style stuff for like chance and because i think i mean this is an argument or a conversation that comes up a lot in my channel how much variance how much randomness is a good thing in the game and i don't know the answer so i i don't really have i like some variance in a game because it adds to the parody of it like like little crazy things can happen like we, or in Magic, you may be losing,

and there's just a perfect card that you get at the perfect time, and everything is turned around for you. Like, is that skill? Yes, if you made the deck, and you've had the foresight to put that card in there. Is it luck? Absolutely, because that card could have been 60, or six cards down in the deck.

So it's definitely a mix. So you put together a deck, it gets shuffled, and then you just play whatever's on top? Correct. Yeah, so you have to use different ratios of cards, and you can't use more than four of a single card in a deck. And so if I'm making a red burn deck, which I think is Kyle's favorite way to play,

where it's just a lot of small, quick creatures that can attack with haste right away, and then a lot of burn cards, like deal two damage to you, you deal two damage to your creature deal three damage to this creature kill kill this creature like basically just trying to control them long enough and keep them from setting up so that you can attack like kyle would you know intelligently when he was making it he wouldn't go all right i'm gonna put one of this burn card in and one of this sorcery he'd be like okay no some of these are essential i need to quadruple up to maximize draw chance and uh this guy's really good but he's a legendary creature which means that i don't want four of them in there because i couldn't play both of them at the same time and i

wouldn't want to hamstring myself uh and be in a tough spot and be like all right i've got gorbok the spider eater out there what do i need oh gorbok again damn it like i can't play him so it is like the deck building is just as much of a skill part as the playing. I think. Yeah. Like the limited drafting is, I don't know if you know what drafting is. Uh, yeah. So everyone does. Okay. So there's like two major modes, right? The first mode is constructed where you construct a deck and there's sometimes there's different rule sets for it. Like certain, certain collections of cards are valid or not. And there's rules for that. And you bring a deck that you've built

to play against other people who brought a deck that they've built, right? Play best of three. There's sideboarding. So some extra cards aren't your base deck that you can bring in after game one to kind of adapt to the opponent you're playing. There's some decision-making in both the deck building,

the way you play the game, and then the sideboarding and how you sideboard. It's all decision-making there. And for me, the more decision-making, the more complex the game has, the more interaction interaction points that tends to be more enjoyable for me and there's limited which is a drafting thing where you just open you each open some packs you pick a card out of the pack and you pass the pack to the guy on your left and it's rotating like that and you build a deck on the fly and then play those decks against each other as well

and both of those are kind of fun things for me in different ways i've kind of gotten into the constructed a little bit recently like i read read a couple of these Frank Carson articles, which are looking at the stats behind, for example, mana distributions, like how many, how many colored sources you need to cast cards or how many colors or how many sources in general you need to run in a deck and looking at the math behind it starts to get kind of interesting for me. It's like, well, here's some of the criteria for actually building a consistent deck. We're looking at like, well, what's the consistency you're aiming for? Are you aiming for a 70th percent?

Like 70% of the time you hit this on this herb? Are you looking at this for an 80th or a 90th percentage? And the compromises you have to make in the deck to do that. So those kind of things have kind of started to be pretty interesting for me. So asking about the skill element of it, I don't know. There's skill in playing. Asking about the skill element of it, I don't know. There's skill in playing. There's a lot of, like, you know,

the ways in which you can manipulate the game is set up the game by the cards you play. Then what you read into that starts to be sort of skill-oriented as you do that more. You can tell sometimes, like, player plays this, plays it in this way. Why? That's not the optimal way to do this.

OK, they could just be rubbish at this game. Or it could mean they're actually setting up for something else. It could mean they're actually setting up for something else. It could mean they're protecting a card or protecting a play or trying to set up a turn or a couple turns down the road or holding counter magic or something. And this type of thing starts to be interesting to me, where there's that back and forth.

Is it played 1v1 or like four at a time? Yeah, it's played 1v1 primarily. There are 2v2s and things like that that can happen for that, but it's mostly 1v1. Oh, you can play 2v2 giant in this? Not in Arena, yeah. Yeah, but in like real Magic, you can play 2v2, and things like that that can happen for that but it's mostly for the other one. Not in Arena. In Real Magic you can play 2v2, 1v1, you can do like 10 people around a table

which is not fun because it takes fucking forever and there's always one dude who's like everybody discards cards from their deck and then they're like fuck that guy, is everybody on board fucking that guy? Fuck that guy. The way to win those games is just to be the white player who's like i'll play this and gain two life and best of luck to everyone you

go i'm not gonna attack don't be a man yes you're talking like basic like yeah yeah if you want to if you want to not get you know butt fucked right away in a big group game don't play blue because blue is the least fun color to play and the least fun color to play against because it's all control and defense like it's they will like try to mill you down permission so it's like you know i'd like to do something the blue player says i have a counter spell you can't do that yeah exactly it's like an uno when he's the guy with all the draw fours he's he's always changing the color he's always like like like no draw fours. He's always changing the color. He's always like, no, actually, you're not going to play that creature.

Discard that creature. Draw three cards. Now discard four cards. It's just annoying shit where you're constantly making moves on his terms. It's not aggressive enough. My favorite color is green in that just because it's huge creatures like all out, try and get as much land out there as possible and like barrel roll them before they can get set up. That's funny. I get asked that a lot sometimes too, which is what color do you like filthy? And

it's always such a weird thing to me. I like the color that wins is what I like color wise. And I like the deck that wins. And I like the deck that has the highest win percentage versus the bulk of the field you're doing. And then again, then skill comes into it again because it's evaluating the field that is out there. If there's 10 or 12 or 15 best tier 1 decks that are fighting it out, and you're going into a competition, having some sense

of the field, and then tweaking the decks to be better against what you think are the best contenders in that field, that starts to be interesting again because there's so many unknown things in that and you're tweaking so much to work with it that's cool to me i don't know the reason i don't like standard as a format which is like like for buying physical cards which is what this is like this is the standard format is like the metas are so repetitive like the, the meta decks that... So meta just means, like, every set that comes out, someone will figure out, like,

oh, shit, red-green, red-green combo, that's the deck to play. You want to win in this set? Red-green. Oh, white? Ugh, they really ruined white. And black is even worse. Oh, black's trash in this.

And so then you run up against a ton of people who are all playing the same archetypes, and that's bothersome. That's why Legacy is more fun, but there's no way they're going to open this up to Legacy. Yeah, I don't know where they'll go with that. I think if they continue to see the success they're going to see with this, I think they're going to be seriously considering doing more with it. So we'll see what happens. I did the Constructed for one, but I didn't keep doing Constructed tournaments because I could just play Constructed for free without having to spend whatever coins or whatever you earn from winning.

But the draft is a blast. That's so much fun to play. It's a brand new challenge every time. And you'll like – because you get to keep the cards. I've fucked myself in those draft tournaments before where I'll get lucky with three openings and be like, well, I'm not going to not take this card, so it looks like this is gonna be a shit uh showing for me you know yeah yeah i have a i have an economy guy that i released for that some time ago talking about the best way to play that for the minimum amount of money actually spent on it it's it's pretty

possible to play that game totally for free so like oh uh have you played pauper on there yet uh that's uh one of the game modes for like you can't bring in rares or something yeah no it's it's only commons right so you have to make whole decks with just commons and it's such a challenge it's a lot of fun to try it's especially fun to build a pauper deck and then just play an open play and try and win with that. And that's real fucking hard. Because your big hitter will be like, aha, this common Hydra that has no game text, but it's an 8-8. Then they're like, that

sucks. Destroy. Yeah. Everybody's full of magic now. Move on to hockey. Oh, God. Let's not. Don't have to do that. I spent headshots for the first time recently. Have you ever done these? Have you done these for anything?

You did what? Headshots. Not like Call of Duty shooting someone in the head, but like photos. Oh. I know Kyle has. I'm doing a promotional event with WotC. I absolutely have not. I actually wondered if Kyle had.

I found the whole fucking experience very off-putting. He has. Off-putting as a whole. I have not. You know I hate that. And Woody's a... You can't convince Woody of a thing. Because he forgets that you've told him.

Like, he still doesn't know the name of my dog. Like, you know, after four years or whatever. I guarantee you ask him right now, he'll say Dax. But, no, I didn't get headshots. Some fucking dude took a picture of me one time while I was sitting like at a shooting range. And that's become my headshot because he had like a like a really nice like depth of field lens. And he it turned out that he was a Russian speaking guy that that a gun website had hired to come and try to find out if I was Russian. And they sent him to Tennessee. It was absurd. He was such a piece of shit. That guy's a fucking asshole.

No, no, absolutely not. I have not had headshots done. Whenever that's been requested, I'm just like, like take a selfie and send it to him. Well, that's what I did. Well, not quite that, but like, okay,

so I got asked for, I'm doing some promotional event with this company and they asked me for some professional shots, right? And I was like, I don't have to fucking, they didn't say this exactly. I'm like, I didn't tell them I don't have professional shots. I'm like, you know, you're not going to say that. I mean, here I am saying this, of course. But anyways, but point being, I'm like, ah, maybe I ought to send them a nice photo. And I'm like, I got some good ones

for my wedding. I'll send them one of those. I sent them a shot. It's a headshot of me and my wedding, right? So I already have like, I got the collared shirt on and I, it was a genuinely happy moment for me. Like it was really having a good time, et cetera. Nice. It was a nice photo. It's a great photo. It's me, natural smile, having a blast, sent it to them. Like I was really having a good time, et cetera. Nice. It was a nice photo. It's a great photo. It's me. Natural smile, having a blast, sent it to them. And I'm like, ah, well this do don't hear back from him for like a week. Send a follow-up email.

I'm like, uh, yeah. So I'm waiting to hear back about whether that photo will do, or if I need to get some professional shots done, nothing. So I posted on Twitter that photo, that's the shot. And I asked my viewers, I'm like, I like this photo. I might be using it for professional headshots or I might actually go get some professional ones done. What do you guys think?

They're like, ah, Filthy, I think you should really get some professional photos done. And then right, so I emailed the rep and, you know, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna get some professional shots done. They reply in like two hours. It's like, that would be great. After like not saying a word for like a fucking week on that. So I went and got some stupid headshots done for this, which is the most ridiculous thing I've had to do as a streamer yet.

Are you happy with how they turned out? Yeah, all right. It's such a bizarre. I mean, I hated it. I hated that as an experience. And the photographers are great. Everyone was nice. It wasn't like that.

It's just like I can't believe I'm doing that. It's never been anything close to what I've wanted to do with my life ever. And it seems so weird. Like streamers, professional headshots, does that really? It feels so like. I don't know why you'd need it. Yeah, I don't either. They can be like, oh, yeah, this guy in the little box in the corner of the game.

That's definitely the guy that I saw on the pic. I should say I spend 50 hours a week or whatever in a little box of my head every week. Like, can we just use something from that? So, it turned out nice. How many times do you stream a day? About eight hours a day for about five days a week. Do you do it, like, consistent times every day? Yeah.

Smart. Yeah, I watched Trout a good bit playing COD and lately Fallout, and he will stream sometimes 12 hours a day, but every day at least eight hours it's it's a pretty relentless schedule that he's on yeah and the way with twitch prime works um where your subscriptions are not guaranteed people don't lock into a channel anymore they pretty much they love they on a month will pick a person and give their twitch prime sub to that it tends to be

very you notice it a lot you go out of town for a weekend i'm going to town for this weekend you'll you'll see dips in viewership there are dips in subscriber count just from that because it's not a renewing thing so if you're not there constantly being a presence then you definitely notice that yeah the other day i'm gonna get it wrong exactly what he did but he was like anyone who gifts me 10 subs, I'll gift them like 50 subs or something like that. Cause he was like at 49,000. Uh, he's, he's basically paying for,

you, you, you buy a subscriber for someone else for five bucks for like five bucks a month. And, uh, he spent a few thousand dollars, got himself from like 49,000 up to 50,000.

Uh, and he's playing with, um, what's his name? Skadoodle or something like that. Anyway, he's playing with um what's his name skadoodle or something like that anyway he's playing with this guy and the guy has like 2500 subscribers and he's like ah let's get you to 3000 here i'll buy you 100 and he just buys him 100 it's 500 you know it's 500 yeah just buys him 500 subscribers it's fun to watch shroud because he does stuff like that and he's know, pretty good at the fucking game. Yeah, I think that the size of those channels is sometimes mind-boggling when you look into that stuff.

I watched some, I think it was Disguised Toast put out a video talking about, like, streamer finances and, like, the numbers that come out with that. And just these top streamers are just like, I mean, I do well. My stream is doing well, and I'm very happy with my stream. And the size of it is growing, and i'm very happy with my stream and the size of it is growing and i'm happy with that too but like the league like if i'm considered like a b or b minus size channel these a and a plus size channels are just like i mean i'm telling you kyle like you know what a fucking a plus size channel looks like but comparatively it just is mind-boggling the

difference in scale of these channels and you know on twitch they're paying the guys getting it varies depending on what level you are. But but three dollars a month or something like that per subscriber, you know, you got 50, 60, 100000 subscribers. That's before the donations come into play. That's before the sponsored products all come into play. So these, you know, someone like Trouts, I wouldn't be if you told me he was making 400000 a month, I't be shocked at all no i know and you hear these numbers and it's just it's incredible yeah bananas yeah it's great for him i'm i'm i like to see people succeed it's it's cool to see that yeah especially in niche things like that yeah i hope i hope it's not short-lived not not for

shroud in particular i mean i hope he does well regardless. But I mean, I hope this is a profession, for my own sake on this one, like can stabilize, that it isn't just like a trending bubble that pops and disappears. I think the demand for the gaming content is there. I'm just not sure that Twitch is a platform. I don't have any reason to suspect it won't,

but I'm not sure that that will be the stable, like final outcome of what the platform looks like for that type of content and experience. So I'm kind of curious to see where it runs. Having Amazon purchase them has to be a really stabilizing factor in the same way that Google owning YouTube was, you know, YouTube, I believe still runs at a loss, you know, but, but Google is backing the thing. So who cares? Right. So I think in the same way, I bet Twitch makes, I know Twitch makes money, you know, because they're taking whatever, 40% off the top of everybody,

50% off the top off of everybody. And there's just millions going into it every day. So they have to be doing well. Yeah. And it's, I think this is like the, maybe the next thing like Netflix kind of in a sense,

it's like the evolution of the way that people consume media and therefore the way people purchase media. It's kind of interesting to be part of that. I was trying to explain it to someone who was just completely clueless the other day. I was like, well, do you know what Fortnite is? And she was like, uh-uh. I was like,

where do I begin? People watch this guy when he plays video games? The series of tubes you start with it's difficult to explain the video game shit because it's like all right well you don't know who that is let me explain a whole archetypal layer of what it is i'm discussing it's someone playing a game online you're not playing with them you're observing them playing with other people in a and it's like like people over the age of i don't know what would be like what like didn't even south park have an episode where like the young kids were talking about the even

younger kids where they're like i just don't understand kids anymore they're just watching pewdiepie all the time it's like it was kind of joking about the fact that even three years ago or you know 10 years ago to be fair like this wasn't a thing yeah for sure yeah yeah you run into you run into those weird moments i think i've said this before on the channel uh here for you guys is that it took me a couple years to be comfortable saying that as a profession in part because i just like didn't want to deal with like having to explain that every single time to people like what the hell do you mean so it's like as i have done this longer succeeded at it longer like more comfortable talking about it as a job so like when we moved up here as i just introduced myself as i'm gonna ask what i do i'm

like yeah i'm a streamer i've been a full-time streamer for a number of years and you inevitably get that series of questions of like what that means and you know what it is more people get old right like in 2012 if you said you were youtuber people said you can make money at that now it's like oh you got that job know, like people have heard of it, especially if they're younger. Yeah. We were talking about headshots a minute ago, what a filthy was required to get some

for a business obligation and that sort of thing. It's a weird experience. And then I put this link in the chat of our friend, and I feel like he took a few headshots and put them on Twitter the other day. I'm sharing them. Oh. Wings of Redemption tweeted,

this is not a joke, I don't think. And I'm like, and this isn't one of the troll accounts. He said, feeling cute, might delete later. Followed by two selfies. I mean, you know that's a meme, right?

Yeah, that's my interpretation of it. He knows this is a meme, and he's just doing it. I think I posted that picture of you turned into a woman with an app with the quote, feeling cute, might delete later, before. Yeah, but Taylor, you're a very smart, witty person who understands multi-layered humor. Wings was feeling cute it's feeling cute but he might delete it later he leaves that option out there i mean this is

post uh weight loss surgery like you yeah this is it's mid weight loss and he's lost a lot he's posting that because he's feeling good about himself i think i think he's joking but there's certainly an element of like hey man this is the new me yeah this challenge you guys can invite him in look at the the photo underneath of him in the black ops t-shirt like i saw that yeah he's clear like like i know people have said before like oh it's angles in the phone and like the thinning look of the door it's like no this he's he's lost a significant amount of weight like a little underneath i want to show it to people though uh the one in him the black ops shirt it was right below the feeling cute might delete later one on november 7th this tweet and go back okay is that what it's yeah that's a good angle

for him as well like the front on angle because a lot of his weight he carries in his back and isn't in his belly he seems like deeper than he is wide i don't know what the what the correct term is but but but that that's where it all seems to be i don't know chis is always going on how he thinks wings must be doing something wrong or cheating on his diet or doing something because like at a pound a day he should have already lost like well over a day well his stomach is four ounces he he can only eat like four or five hundred calories a day and his base basal metabolic rate is like 3750 so yeah jesus christ with a little bit of that well in a month well Well, Taylor beat by like two and a half, three times that almost. Taylor's got a normal stomach and he didn't start at 470 pounds, you know? Like, like it's true.

Those guys, like when those guys get that weight loss surgery, like pound a day is kind of a minimum. Wow. Yeah. That's really like the predicted rate. So. I don't know how well he's losing compared to his peers, but I can see that he's losing.

He looks different. For sure. He's absolutely lost some weight. For him. I bet he's below 400 for the first time in a long time. I wish he'd give updates, you know? Like, you know, we're rooting for him to get down to fucking 250 or something like that.

I want to see. I want to see what he looks like, right? We've never seen 250 pound wings like at best maybe 350 pound wings i don't even know if that's so much weight he gets the skin surgery and that's another 30 pounds you know like that that i know that he's nervous about the skin surgery he's he says he may never get it but i maybe it's because i've had more surgeries i view that as a trophy, a reward for good work. Boogie posted something on his Twitter the other day

where he was saying like, for the longest time I thought that I wasn't going to get the skin surgery even when the doctor said you're going to want this someday because I was thinking, oh, this is just a cosmetic thing. And he's like, now that I've lost a lot of weight, I realized I am going to have to get it. The doctors were right.

This is not a cosmetic thing. The skin is like feeling thin. It feels like it's tearing. It doesn't feel like healthy skin in like those areas. Because I'm sure like now that his body is slimming down, the blood flow there is getting worse. And so it's like if you're that heavy, like it's not even like maybe I'll do the skin. Maybe I won't. It's like, no, unless you want to live a profoundly uncomfortable life you will get that skin removed Taylor might be too young to remember this but

Woody you remember back in the old days when you'd roll a window down and like the webbing yeah of course between your thumb and your forefinger that's why I went to you and the webbing between your thumb and forefinger can get stuck in the roller imagine that happening with like your belly fat imagining it imagine like you're cooking like really quickly right and all of a sudden you're getting sucked into a meat grinder or a food processor it's even worse you're standing at the front of an elevator you think you can fit but then as the doors close and you start to go down your belly's caught and it's shorn off and you get a free skin removal surgery and a hefty settlement from whatever establishment you were in dear god what a nightmare that would be i

remember in high school like there was a guy who liked there was a guy who liked to run the metal lathe and he had a ponytail and my teacher was like harley come into my office we're gonna watch a video and he showed him that infamous video of the man getting sucked into a metal lathe and having his arm like just it ruins him as a living being. Because a metal lathe, I don't know how you measure that torque, but all the torque you can imagine and then ten times that, that's what a metal lathe has. Especially when it's on like a 60 RPM rate or something like that. It's a power that you can't fathom. It's a power that the human body has no impact on, right? None.

If I were to grab a fan, a ceiling fan, right? If I were to hit it, that ceiling fan would be impacted. I don't work with metal lades much, but I have a tractor, and the same thing applies there. There's a spinning PTO shaft in the back that makes any range of things go. And I don't, when that thing's spinning, that is a no-go zone. Fucking there. Something about the way it's spinning, it can kind of, if you grab it just a little, you can grab it a lot.

And then you just twist up on it, and now you're caught. And, yeah, that's how farmers are losing, getting amputated. Legs and arms and just dying. And it's a brutal injury. I don't even like thinking about it. It's the sort of thing that really just, ah. My great-grandpa was missing everything from here up. But more like that.

And it was from a thresher. Where he reached into it and it ripped his fingers off. I don't think I know what a thresher is. It threshes. It does a lot of threshing to thresh. Alright. It auto-completed thresher shark

for some reason. Oh, it kind of looks like a wood chipper. Yeah, he reached into it and it chopped off his fingers. I think he was trying to dislodge it or fix it or something. Dude, there was a guy here in Raleigh like a year ago.

He hired a teenager to operate a wood chipper. Of course he did. His first day at work, he got sucked into the wood chipper and turned into a, help me with the movie, Fargo situation. Oh yeah, Fargo, where it's just a big spray of blood ruining the pristine snow. Oh, it was local, too.

How do you explain that one to the mom? The owner was beyond words. He was so distraught over it. I think the kid was like 16 or might have been yeah maybe it was a different occurrence but i remember we watched a a news article or we read a news article about a kid working for an older guy and i think what happened is like you know you're putting wood in a woodchip that's what you do with it and maybe he like tried to kick the stump to like get it to really go in there, and his foot got sucked in,

and he got sucked in up to the hip or something like that. I believe the kid survived, but the owner, from viewing this, from seeing the carnage, had a heart attack and died. I'm almost positive we went over that news story on this show. We did. We did talk about that. With machines like this, there's going to be a lot of user error, I guess you would say. I would think that the more extreme the machine, the less user error there would be.

It thins the crowd out. There is no margin for error. So when there's something that dangerous, are you fucking around with it? Are you kicking it? I'm not kicking it. So I'm going to make an analogy. In IT, right? I used to work in IT with computers.

The more secure you make it, the more difficult it is to use. It is a pain in the ass to have a different password everywhere. It is a pain in the ass to update your password every week. It is a pain. Like, if you lock this thing down so well that it can't be hacked, it can't be used. Right. There's a parallel in farm machinery there. These things need to chop up and such.

If you start putting too many guards on them, if you put too many safety procedures, then you can't get freaking tree limbs in it anymore. It's a good point. It's a good point. it's a good point it's a good point isn't that like when you when you understand that the machinery the compromise made was you know you're able to use it and the safeguards are less so you can use it aren't you therefore more on guard rather than less on guard it's you get complacent you're overestimating the wisdom of the 16 year old in question why would you do that i don't know i just feel like you know I just watched this thing turn an entire love seat into little tiny chips of wooden cloth, but I could probably do that thing.

Go ahead and real fast and pull it out. Real fast and pull it out. Yeah, I'm quick. I'm quick. Yeah, like you can't underestimate the stupidity of a 16-year-old. It's easy for me to sit there and be like oh what a what a tard but like if i was 16 at the time like who knows like it's easy to get a harebrained idea for a second so we do something i don't think i would put my foot up in a thing but who hired the fucking 16 year old so we got this guy who's hired this is

this is okay this is where we're going all right no one no one blames a 16 year old i don't blame anyone for this i don't have nothing about this but it does seem like god i'll win 16 year old so we got this guy who's hired this is this is okay this is where we're going all right no one no one blames a 16 year old i don't blame anyone for this i don't have nothing about this but it does seem like god wins 16 year fair fair but if you're the guy who hires the 16 year old are you not going to spend that little bit to be like hey this is really dangerous don't be fucking around with it yeah are you even hired i don't know 16 year olds are probably really good at dragging tree limbs over to machines. Yeah, man. I worked on that kind of machinery when I was 16. This is a dumb kid, frankly. You feel bad that this happened to him, but this is not the brightest bulb. That's why this happened to him. He did a stupid thing. By definition, that's why this happened.

I grew up in a farming community. There were plenty of people who, as children, up in a farming community. I, there were plenty of people who as children were operating front end loaders, hay balers, PTOs, like, like bush hogs, disc mowers, everything, driving spreader trucks. But, and I never heard of a kid having an accident. It was always the grown men who had become complacent. There was a grown man. When I was in maybe third grade, one of my friend's father was in the back of a spreader truck. This is the kind of like, it looks like a dump truck, but it has a conveyor belt type apparatus in the bottom of it, in the floor. And it slowly

drags the contents, which are usually fertilizer to the back where there are two spinning sort of propellers that, that district that distributed out into a field right you drive this truck around and it spreads whatever's in there sometimes it's chicken shit sometimes it's ammonium nitrate fertilizer whatever he was in the back of this thing he fell he got drug into those propellers it basically disemboweled him it opened opened his stomach up. His guts were hanging out. He's bleeding out. His friend stops the truck, runs back there. They literally stuffed his body cavity with chicken shit. Chicken shit is the consistency of like sawdust. It's a powdery type. Stuffed him full of it and kept him alive. How he didn't go septic and die, I still don't know. But I guarantee this happened. It happened happened i thought that the

chicken shit idea was going to turn out to be a poor decision yeah i would i don't what how yeah someone wrote a very interesting medical paper at the end of that because they're on fucking they were on call or on work there this guy comes in they're like tell me again you stuffed his body cavity full of shit and uh we're gonna be uh keeping him alive huh yeah when life gives you 60 pounds of chicken shit you pack your best friend's cabbage bandage yeah god that's amazing that's like when you see an old like in uh remember gladiator don't be that one when he gets that terrible cut from the sword and then they put all the maggot paste in there.

Yeah, man. Ugh. Yeah, that's a real thing. That's a medical procedure that is still done today in some places. Like when someone gets like a necrosis-type injury, when they have a necrotic flesh somewhere on their body, you can go in with a knife and you're getting, it's kind of like getting a tumor, right? You want to get a certain section of the good flesh around the tumor. I can't remember what they call that, but you don't want to leave any tumor. Well, when you've got necrotic flesh, the same is true. So if you use a blade, if you use a scalpel,

you're taking out a lot of stuff you don't need to. So what they'll do is they'll stuff the wound with maggots, cover it with a bandage, and they'll check it after a few days, and the maggots only eat the dead flesh. So you're left with this perfect, like the exact perfect amount of living flesh, and none of the necrotic flesh, except

you're being eaten by maggots. Can you feel the maggots? I've heard it's literally tickly and almost pleasant pleasant that sounds well i've read it on the internet like a nightmare these people probably have very good willpower if they're converting that into pleasant it the choice might be that or lose your foot yeah no like like you see those homeless people who have been wearing the same shoes for 12 years and they have mental issues and like they take the shoe off and their foot is black and has maggots in it.

Yeah. I always like that has to be mental illness because no sane person has ever taken their shoe off, seen like black and been like, this is I'm just I'm swamped today for another day. I'll get my foot. Maybe I'll put the shoe back on and hope it works out on its own. So what if one toe cracks off and a stray dog eats it? I've got four, three, I've got two and a half more. Like that's,

it's like Crocodile. That drug that they use in Russia, like where they inject themselves with it and it can cause severe necrosis. And there are pictures online, if you look at, I think it's K-R-O-K OO-D-I-L or something like that. I won't be going there regardless. It is horrifying.

Of course, anything medically you look up online, it always shows the worst of the worst. But there are full, you can see the bones in the arm for a decent span. It's heroin junkies, I think. I'm going to look that up. Go on. I was going to ask about your video here.

I was going to transition to that. A man quits his job on camera, and it has almost 200,000 views. I thought we'd discuss his decision to do it. Okay. Is everyone queued up? I am. It's a minute and a half long video. I think we can watch the whole thing. I'm at zero seconds. It looks like

he works at a Waffle House or something. We lost Pilty. Yeah, we lost him. He probably changed to his browser page or something and it closed Skype on him. Never again. For people who don't know, he had a lot of issues with Skype before the show,

so he used the online browser version of Skype, and I don't know how we're going to handle this. All right, I just copied the link and added it to a different browser. We should be fine. Okay, but you don't have a camera. Do you guys see him? Oh, it's not on. Oh, fuck off how about uh i'll tell everyone about

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I take an interest in what Dollar Shave Club has decided to add to their lineup. Like, I don't know. There's this parallel to me. Way back in the day, Amazon started with books. And then they were sort of figuring out what kinds of things are good to sell online. You know, one of the last hurdles people sold online were clothes. Because it's the sort of thing you try on you want to see in person you're very selective about it it's still a thing people prefer to buy

in person oftentimes but amazon was clever in finding the things that people were comfortable buying online dollar shape club is expanding their lineup piece by piece and i like to watch and just sort of i don't know i'm entertained by the business that they're running they're doing yeah they're covering all the bases it's. It's very smart what they're doing. They're bringing the convenience and the quality that they brought to the Razor game to all the other facets in your bathroom. Let's watch this fella quit. I'm ready.

Yes, hear me again. See me okay. Perfect and perfect. Tap your mic. Double check. I think it's the right one. Definitely the right one. Ready, set, play.

All right, play. Alright Facebook, I hope you can hear this shit because I'm about to quit. I'm working for my boss out here in Crystal River, right? Ain't shit done. I'm the only cook. I don't have nobody else to help me. No dishwasher, no nothing. And it's been this way for the past couple weeks.

Well, I'm just about done fed up with it, so I want this shit to go viral. I got a truck here. I ain't got shit done. They only give us 30 minutes to open up. I was promised a raise, never got that. And now I got tickets piling up and we just fucking opened and nothing is fucking prepped and everything is made from scratch. So, boss man, here's another thing. I'm quitting and when I come back up to get my check, it better fucking all be there because I've been keeping track of my hours this time.

You fuck me on my hours, you tell me, oh, well, we had to duck this, we had to duck that. I swear to fucking God, dude. Fuck with me. You've already locked my hours in half. I got three kids, a fucking dog, a house. I got bills out the yin-yang. And oh, we'll give you this, we'll give you that. Motherfucker, you need to quit going back

on your goddamn words, what you need to do. So all this stuff that needs to finish getting done, you've got a prep list a mile long. I suggest you hurry up and get the fuck here because I'm leaving. Don't fuck with me. Well, I wanted initial impressions of that. Initial impressions is that it's not a good way to quit a job, especially if it goes viral, because I don't think the next people are going to be as likely to hire him. I don't know.

I agree with you on that point. That's a strong point. But I also see his point of view. He's been doing this for weeks, like running not only the grill, but I'm guessing like cleaning the tables and washing the dishes and running the cash register. It looks like a Waffle House type environment, but that didn't look like Waffle House's stove. I'm guessing like cleaning the tables and washing the dishes and running the cash register. It looked like a Waffle House type environment, but that didn't look like Waffle House's stove. I'm a, I'm an expert in this matter. Uh, I could, I could definitely see his frustration. Like, like that's, that, that's, that's ridiculous if all that stuff he said is true. And then, you know, he's like, I got three kids, a dog, a house, I got bills. And it's just like, fuck,

yeah, man, he's, he's fucking slinging bacon and eggs up here to try to like keep it all together and he's being disrespected left and right and treated badly uh i definitely feel what he's feeling i guess but i agree with taylor it's probably a poor way to handle it you can't help but feel for him like he's working a shit job he's clearly got a lot of stress and his manager is one of those pieces. Usually guys that age that are working in that level of food prep, they seem to be like ex-cons a lot of the time. And so he's probably doing the best he can with the opportunity presented to him.

So I can understand getting exasperated with it. I evolved from Kyle's initial position to Taylor inside the first minute of watching this video. At first it was like, if half the shit he's saying is true, he doesn't have the support he needs around the rest of the business. His boss lopped his hours in half. Is that true? Lopped his hours in half?

He paid him half? That is outrageous and illegal. And he's made some promises, I think, about raises and such that the boss hasn't come through on. If half of that is true, then this is a well-warranted quit and such. On the other hand, like you said, he may have made his boss look bad,

but that doesn't matter to him. Who's going to hire this guy next? And if he is a con or something like Kyle called out, then that just hurts him even further. You know what? You don't want this guy. You don't want to be his next boss. if he is like a con or something like Kyle called out, then, uh, that just hurts him even further. You know what? You don't want this guy. You don't want to be his next boss.

He's, he's a little prone to just drop you with the first problem. But, uh, what he should have done is recognized the temporary power he has and said that he needs a raise before he leaves. He should have talked to his boss instead of made a Facebook live recording and said hey man you know what we gotta come through with these promises by friday or i won't be here saturday yeah i totally i couldn't agree more with your leverage

point like he's in a position where you know he's like man it's clear that he could do all that stuff it's just very not fair to him to be forced to prepare it and show up even earlier and everything. But if he could do it, like he could have parlayed that into like, Hey, you need this. You don't have anybody right now.

I'll do it. If you pay me X, Y, Z more or X percent more. It's going to cost you $12 an hour. You know what? You need to pay me that until you get that person. Yeah.

And then two more people would be 12 an hour a piece and you know so you need to give me 15 or start off at 18 i don't know so hopefully that guy gets a better job feels like someone is you know the complaints that are bringing up are like cutting my out like screwing me out of work that i've done not paying it promising me things not following through with it expecting things above and beyond what you're paying me for just feels like an abuse of power feels shitty yeah outback steakhouse outback steakhouse got in a lot of trouble a while back because they would make people come in half an hour before they were supposed to clock in and do prep work and stuff they called it out back time huh uh yeah that's a here's a here's a pro tip for anybody out there

if you go to a company and you're going to work there and they're like we get lunch catered every day every Tuesday we go out for fun times as a group it's like what they're doing is tethering you to your desk so you have to stay there all day like they're doing things

to like keep you there oh but Tuesdays at 8 o'clock, we all get in the car together and go, well, yeah, we work until 8 on Tuesday. Yeah, always. It's totally worth it. It's a lot of fun. You got to meet the guys.

It's like, don't fall into that kind of thing. We even pay for the pizza. It's like, wow, instead of me getting my time, I get fucking pizza, which I could buy on my own time. But you have to understand, three slices of pizza. It's like, really?

Is that what my time is? A slice of pizza an hour? That's okay in sales, though, because you don't want to leave. At least in my experience, it was. It was like, oh, yeah, we cater lunch every Saturday. It's like, good, because I don't want to fucking – I want to go upstairs, get whatever you've provided for us, wolf it down, and then get back on the floor and back to work. Like, oh, you want to go upstairs get whatever you've provided for us wolf it down and then get back on the floor and back to work like yeah oh you want to go out for lunch go ahead you go ahead i'll be here fucking working and you know saturday's a big day for sales and the same when

we stay late a lot of times he'd be like yeah let's go to dave and buster's i'll give everybody 50 like it was interesting the way that they would try to motivate salespeople. We would have a Saturday morning meeting, and he would come in there like a broke Oprah. He'd be like, first he'd have a couple hundred dollars in ones, and he'd be throwing them out continuously, just making it rain. That was part of the meeting. Sometimes it brought home six or nine dollars.

I mean, it was like, you know, it's motivating. Was it like really low-level, shitty, white trash, Wolf of Wall Street? No. It was like while he's just literally throwing money at us. And, you know, there's only like, I don't know, 15, 20 of us sitting there getting a couple hundred dollars thrown at us. So, yeah, whatever. But while he's literally throwing money at us, he'd be making up bonuses for the day he'd be like anybody sells two cars two hundred dollars just you know on top of everything anybody sells three cars five hundred

dollars you sell four cars today thousand dollars in your pocket and you know this is like cash out of his pocket money and so like a lot of times he's pocket not the business or he's the business well it's his business right i i don't know no he was a corporate store i don't know where that money was coming from but it was coming you know we weren't concerned with where it originated and so like on a friday maybe someone would be like oh yeah i'm ready to ready to buy and i'm like could you come in tomorrow first thing in the morning and i'll make sure we we not only detail it but we wax it and polish and i'm just making we we not only detail it but we wax it and polish and i'm just making we're not gonna wax it polish it we're just gonna wash it up real good

for him but it's like want we want you to come in on that saturday so you could get cj's bonus money you know if you could get if you could squeeze in an extra car in the in that big day it could be a big deal so i i don't know but but if you're just fucking working in an office yeah at a cubicle getting salary fuck you david buster at first it seems so great you're like you know what we have dry cleaners here they come by you can just do whatever we have you know like food that comes in for lunches we've got this we've got that you never have to leave campus You can practically live here We have sleeping pods Cisco actually had fucking sleeping pods In a room

They closed over you And gave you the illusion of privacy Because they only went to like your belly button And uh Did you ever get in one and you started to get sleep And you're like Ah Vikram was in this one You had to slide out when we first went to

the building i laid in them to see what they were like but i never slept in the sleeping pot and look if there's not a sleeping pot available you can use the suicide net as a hammock right yeah like they just they make it so that you can live on campus oh another thing cisco did and it sounds wonderful but they paid for your internet connection for a long time they stopped doing it that you can live on campus. Oh, another thing Cisco did, and it sounds wonderful, but they paid for your internet connection. For a long time, they stopped doing it. But they paid for your home internet connection. And at first, you're like,

wow, that's pretty awesome. That's an expense that I would have had otherwise. I was gonna have one. So it's just straight up like tax-free pay. That's great. And then it's like, yeah. Also, if you could just monitor your email 24 by 7 that would be great uh we got the internet connection no problem for 70 a month they would get another

like 70 hours a month out of you yeah and the the second they stopped paying for my internet connection i just like made a woody rule like yeah yeah i i won't be working from from home at night anymore yeah didn't they pay for the internet connection for like a really long time though yeah yeah i mean maybe eight years no i mean like after you after you like quit or or like they had stopped paying for it before ah okay okay i misunderstood or i think i know what you are talking about i i did get a um like a business discount i got a business line at consumer prices ah after i left cisco i continued to do that deal yeah yeah it's nice when you've got like that that hey uh don't tell anybody but they they haven't updated the system yet and uh i'm still getting

all this my dad had this situation one time where he uses a ton of water like it to the point where water bills are thousands and thousands of dollars. And I want to say the issue was there was something wrong with the water meter or one of the lines that was supplying his main line wasn't metered. And he's adding it up because he's got, I don't know what you call a water meter that tells you how many gallons you're using he's like at doing the math he's like we're only

getting charged for 500 gallons a month we used 8 000 and it was like well let's not tell anyone about that yeah that's their problem that's on them that's on them the opposite happened to us in apex one time like we got a bill that was way high in water and we're like i this is not a way like our water bill is i don't know what it was like 110 a month and then all of a sudden it rolls in at 4 000 we're like we think you have a record keeping problem and they fixed it they reverted it back and then the next month it was 4 000 and they we did wait for a couple of months before. We're like, you guys just need to forget about this.

Yeah, yeah. I think somehow maybe there was a leak or like water ran through. Man, aren't you glad that wasn't auto-debiting? You might not have noticed. Well, I would have noticed at the time, I think. I don't know what you can do with some of these things, though. Not so much those, but like the hours things like my mom's a midwife right and every time they lose somebody from her practice anytime someone leaves her practice like her like you're talking about dead babies they do no no no no no not lose somebody that

way no but like her hours go through the roof because she is salaried and she has like anyone else at her place has to pick up the work for the people who aren't there right like so someone leaves your salary it's part of your obligations to do that but there's no like limit on that that i can see or tell from this and you know it's not like she's complaining about this all the time but i've always thought it's a little bit ridiculous like maybe it's because mostly whenever i've been paid on stuff prior to this job originally it's it's like generally it's a contractual like you do this, you get paid for this. I don't want to bring it home.

You're not paying me to bring this shit home. I didn't sign on for a contract where I'm doing this home. I'm not available 24-7. You're not paying for my internet where it happens to be that like whatever this terrible deal is. But it seems ridiculous on some level that a salary position is you want to keep this job. You're going to do more here, even though it's way above and beyond what you're normally being what you agreed to be paid for and there's no limitation on that past you making a fuss cisco did it as a culture like that's how they they had it it was is um effectively manipulated you know cisco was a half trillion dollar market cat company and we were one or two

on the you know in in the world at anything for a while. And they described themselves to the employees as the world's largest startup. You know, we're just like a startup, kind of. And we all get together and work days and nights just like these dot-com kids hoping that they hit it big. But except that you do it for salaries with no real hope of hitting it big. And everyone just kind of bought into it like yeah you know we're a startup it says here on my badge that you know we do whatever it takes and uh it's like oh it does say that right there i guess we should work all night and they effective mind control i don't know what to call it. It was motivating, I guess, made you think that you were working for a place that was elite.

And, uh, I don't know. I did it for a while. No, it feels like this is sometimes like Gmail or something, right? So what are these,

these services that are free services, you know, it's like, it's never a free service when you actually look into what you're paying, what you're, what you're, how they're using you as the consumer to further, uh, a dollar, a dollar amount for themselves. You kind of see that and you're like, Oh,

wait a minute. I'm actually, the deal has been misrepresented to me going into it. I was talking about this recently and it, I predicted it and I saw it happen to her in that Google is great, right? Google is this saint on the hill that solves 30 problems a day for you. They have a great mail service. They have a free word processor and Excel spreadsheet. Their search engine is fabulous and it comes at no cost, right?

Meanwhile, Facebook, those dirty, dirty data miners are learning about you and pushing ads to you. And Mark Zuckerberg gets blasted as a non-human on Capitol Hill. And no one does that to Google, I think. If they did, it didn't get the same news. And I feel like Google is going to have its bad news story at some point where people realize that Google has been learning everything about you and selling it to advertisers. And somehow no one cares about that.

But they do for Facebook. There's two rules. The amount Google knows about you is insane. Is this something you know about professionally? Yeah. Yeah, like Google, Facebook, all those sites. Like there's not a one of them. Well, I mean like of the ones where you're entering like sensitive information that indicates what you're interested in or what your like behavioral patterns are or

your your demographic like they it's like the algorithms they have it's beyond crazy like people always like man the government is is gonna go and they're gonna take all the information they have and they're gonna uh use the nsa and it's like no no the government goes to Facebook and Google for data because Facebook and Google are way fucking better at it yep like when they're like we can't solve this NSA agent Smith they're like hmm

ask that guy our Google our Google contact he'll probably know shoot an email to you know Irwin over there like that that's the way it works so fucking Irwin but you're like you're such a Google employee you're never getting out over there like that that's the way it works so fucking erwin you're never getting out of it like that that was a battle that was fought and lost before anyone was aware it was being fought for like by the large part you know like can you do without google services it's like go just as good i don't use it i don't know duck duck go doesn't track

you in the same way that's why it's uh well if we're talking about google stuff don't know. DuckDuckGo doesn't track you in the same way. That's why it's appealing in that way. Well, if we're talking all Google stuff, don't you lose YouTube? Wait, I forgot. We like Google. Google's wonderful. Oh, I mean, I use YouTube more than cable TV by an order of magnitude. I don't even have cable TV. Oh, do you, Taylor?

Where do you think this shit is going? On YouTube. I'm talking about I'm using YouTube. Oh, well, I'm refining. Yeah, I understood you, Taylor. I didn't understand Kyle. This podcast, this content that we're creating right now. Oh, yeah.

I'm just talking about the Google half. The YouTube half, the only information it knows about me is that they're like, well, we know he likes to watch animals kill people. We know he likes to watch people kick each other in the head after they've already been knocked out and bitten by homeless people. And we know he likes to watch a lot of

spider and snake bites, especially on pastors who are fucking with them. That's what they would know about. And arm, well, that would just be that one guy. Because like, that didn't have legs for me. Like, that's what they would know about. And arm, well, that would just be that one guy. Because, like, that didn't have legs for me. Like, I watched, like, one arm wrestling video of the big hand and big arm dude, and I was like, man, this is really neat,

but I've seen what I need to see. Like, it's not gonna, like, it's not gonna be some, like, oh, and he backflips his opponent! You know, he throws him so hard. Like, no, a win in arm wrestling, that's gotta be the most boring sport imagin imaginable if you call it a sport there's only one possible outcome and it is not as boring as hockey i guess you're right hockey hockey totally sucks taylor would you like it more if it was some sort of post-apocalyptic arm wrestling where like on either side of where the hands go when you lose

there's like tasers or fire or something like that so if you lose you get spiders or like one of those scary hornets like taped down with it's stinger up that would be good I don't know how you would tape a

Japanese hornet down God I'm getting stung ten times just to try and win. I'm dizzy. How many times do you get stung by one of these to be hurt? That's one of the perks of the culture. That was one of my favorite jackass clips from one of the older ones. I don't remember which one it was, but when they do honeybee tetherball or like bumblebee tetherball and so they take a you know a hive and they attach

it to the tetherball thing it's very self-explanatory and they tape it up there a bit or whatever tethered on and then steve-o verse one of like aaron mcgee he or one of those two that like you don't know as well they start playing it with like the bees flying around. And before they start it, Steve was like, so like, dude, like how many of these does it take to die? Like asking the beekeeper like, oh, about a hundred kilogram man. He's like, yeah, how many are in there? He's like, 50, 60,000. It's like we need to not get stung more than a hundred times there's

50 or 60 000 and like steve-o handles it perfect because like he is used to being abused and so he doesn't freak out but the other guy was just oh ah bees are the worst you know i had no idea until recently that they hung out while you were underwater just to wait to fuck you did you know that like if you jump on if you jump water, a swarm of bees following you, it's not like cartoons where they go, hmm, he's not here, and they go back. They go, meh, meh, meh, meh. And they gesture towards the, with their little bee feet,

and then they wait for you there. And as soon as you come up, they'll keep stinging you. I don't believe they gesture with their feet. That part can't be true. Well, that would be silly because they communicate by dancing. So they do like a sky bebop, some sort of fox trot, to indicate that the foe is beneath the waves, and then they'll sting you.

I know a similar bug fact. Fire ants, they will crawl up you real carefully so you don't even feel it. And then there'll be like 30 or 40 fire ants on, say, your calf. They release a pheromone and they attack together. And I've been on the downside of that. This is what's going to happen to the loser of your competition. Oh, God.

Yeah, we have to go poke some of the fire ants up. So there's one worse than any of the things we've said. Have you ever seen, I think Steve-O did this as well. It's the bullet ant glove. Yeah. No, I've seen that as a glove. I think I saw that one guy get single stung by one. No, no, no.

They take a bunch of bullet ants and they weave them in between reeds or strips of green plant matter. strips of green plant matter. And so their stingers are facing inward. And they create gloves with dozens of ants with the stingers facing inwards. And then it's like an initiation ritual to become a man or something. The guy stands there like, okay. And they put gloves on both of his hands.

And he's just being continuously stung on both hands by dozens and dozens of bullet ants. Wow. I mean, wow. You know what's worse than that taylor backed me up circumcision on babies to prove that that's i i really if you were to give like 15 year old me an option between ant stinging and circumcision i think i'd take ant stinging i'd take some ant stinging keep my dick skin but regardless that's like you know when you see culture traditions where like this is jackass culture oh no no this is an amazonian tribe it's

an yeah it's an amazonian tribe i saw it initially not the uh the challenge guy uh you know australia whatever his name is uh coyote big whatever and uh i saw him get sung by one but like i watched years and years ago that nat geo special kyle's talking about where it's like a bunch of amazonian tribesmen who do that and i was saying like there are like cultural trends that like you don't even need to hear or traditions rather you don't even need to hear where the culture is in the world anything about the people but if they just give you a tradition you can be like i can tell that's not a successful group of people or i can tell that's a successful group of people like if it's like you have to let your hands get stung to death

and be like constantly a little bit of nerve damage from these ants it's like ah is this is this like fire walking or something where there's like a little bit of science behind it it's not so bad or is this just like it really fucking sucked the bullet ant is the most painful uh is it something like you know the venom like numbs or something after the first one and like one is no no worse than 10 and that just sounds like if this is the most painful sting on the earth and they're the the the initiation right is hundreds or dozens at the very least of stings that seems i mean i think they also do it where they're like they'll sting i think the danger isn't the pain of it it's like with that much of whatever toxin they pump into you or something like i maybe i'm making this up i feel

like on that show they were like oh and the young boys must sting themselves regularly in order to build up a resistance or something along those lines i said it a british accent just there and so i'm pretty it made even more sense yeah i could see that yeah no you said it that way so but like yeah like if i hear about a society or culture that has a tradition of stinging themselves with with bugs often i think they're probably not very very good at at figuring things out or building things if you're like oh this society has a culture where all of them dress up in unison and do like early morning karate training like in china i'm like ah they're probably pretty successful because they've got a lot of discipline to do that and nobody's being stung by bees for no reason what's this this is uh la beast doing this ritual um the first timeamp is when they put the gloves on him,

and he seems to take it quite well. He does a little dance while they all chant around him, and he's not screaming. And then the second timestamp is as they're taking them off, and he starts sweating profusely, and it seems like there's a bit of a delayed reaction with the pain, and he really starts feeling it. I can't wait to see this.

Are you guys ready? Which one? Timestamp 807, the first one okay i'm there i'm ready just half a second yeah this is hilarious he's with the actual tribes people yeah i'm ready ready set play Go, Kevin. Go, Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. Kevin.

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Yeah, I'm down to go to the aftermath. It's going. Good Lord. Yeah, he's in there for quite some time. I am on the aftermath. That's 10 minutes and 26 seconds. 10 minutes and 26 seconds. Good for him.

So he was in there for like two minutes. All right. I'm queued up at 1026. You guys ready? Yeah. Ready, set, play. at 1026. You guys ready? Yeah. Ready, set, play.

So now they're... Looks like they're wiping his hands and getting any extra ants off. He's done. Ooh. I don't know. Look how much he's sweating. Yeah, his body pain's running. Yeah. Oh, he's sweating a lot.

And what I'm getting from him is he doubted his decision to do this. He changed his mind. I've had really spicy food. I'm getting like it's not like it's still peaking. That's what I'm getting from that. Exactly. He has an insane look in his face. What did he just say?

Lost 10 pounds of sweat. It feels like a surgeon is operating on my hands with a scalpel that's burning hot. This isn't right. That's burning hot Oh At first doesn't seem that bad It gets worse and it's getting worse. I think I think my body I can go before I just fucking... I'm gonna pass out. This is no joke.

This is no fucking joke. Look at this. I'm sweating. Who's laughing? I've been sweating my entire life. The pain's so much. He's laughing because the pain's so much. It looks like that guy's a Westerner, too.

Yeah. I guess he's L.A. Phoenix who's gonna do it next. Next or didn't. I'm just sure they're in North Payne. I think my body is taking over my body. I'm becoming an ant. Well, it's ranks up there as the most painful thing that the LA Beast has ever done. And it's not even a full swing yet.

He went third person. I can't feel my hands and I'm starting to lose feeling in my body. I think I'm going in shock so... No joke. No joke. I do say respect. Alright, that's probably good. Jesus Christ. Extreme pain rituals, right?

Oh, I forgot that's your thing! Not my thing. Well, not extreme pain, just extreme. You're a hook person. But that wasn't pain, according to Filthy. Not the same way as that. I can stung like fucking bullet ants. It's not going to be. I don't think I ever want to try that whatsoever.

Thank you very much. Where do they put the hooks on you? In your shoulder blade area? Like right nipple. Chest. Right nipple. Do you have scars from it? Little ones, little tiny ones.

All right, loser of the fitness challenge gets hooked and dangled. I'll connect you to some good people. You heard him, Taylor. He'll hook good people. Yeah, Taylor, these are good people. They have lots of piercings in their face. Captain Hook! Captain Hook.

Alright, well, you've made compelling points. I guess I'll get suspended by hooks. I don't know why we're so sure Taylor's losing. You are straight to suspensions. I'm gonna lose. I bet he seems to be. I'm not dumb. It's a time game.

At the end of the day, it's a time and determination. You can have all the time in the world, but if you're not determined, you'll lose. But if you are determined and you have the time, you can fucking blew your way to victory. No, light bulb moment here. Put one and one together. Look at that guy. What do you think his fucking heart rate is right now?

You see the sweat coming out of him? I think of that. Phil, if you find a place to buy these online, I need you to link me. What if that's all that I do for the next just i'm setting new i'm setting new rates all the time well i accidentally set my new max to 240 you know like you see like the the montages of like the hooded sweatshirt like you know or the plastic bag where they're peddling for like the the sweat loss right to get like the sweat out of their body it's just it's just taylor at work he comes in like a big puffy suit it's just all ants it's all bullet ants everywhere it's just Taylor at work. He comes in like a big puffy suit. It's just all ants. It's all bullet

ants everywhere. It's just at work. Bullet ants in the heart monitor just like going with that. I'm like that kid in a Christmas story just... Every little bit. I can't even move my arms. There's so many bugs. It's like Chiz texting him. He's like, yeah, scream it out. That's going to get the... What's the...

What do they call the... Not the pulse points. What is it called for you the the mips right yeah mips up from that just scream it out so you know that could be a good idea i think that's the only one way to find out you have to test it you know i'm gonna look up exotic bugs online actually i'd have to order a lot of them because i'm gonna i pump the first one out, the first sting. That's how Kyle had his big day. He was just getting stung. Just getting stung all day. You know, if I release like two scorpions into my place, even in my sleep, like my heartbeat.

That's right. I know we finished finish off, but did you do rowing? Is that what, was that your only exercise? You rowed and ran, you said, right? Rowed and ran, yeah. Would you say mostly rowed? I rowed about, I had to convert it to meters. I rowed about eight miles and I ran maybe two miles.

Time tells me more. Is that all you rowed? You rowed and ran eight and two? That was your whole day? Pretty much. I mean, try to row a mile. It's... Okay.

Rowing a mile takes a lot, lot longer than running a mile. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's... And, like, every stroke is progressively harder. And, you know, it keeps your heart rate.

My heart rate stayed. At first, I mean, if you look at my very first workout, like there's like a pretty thick band of red because I was stupid and didn't look at my thresholds. And I forgot that red doesn't get you to five meps per minute. You forgot that? I forgot it. When I saw that, I was like, like red baby is he thinking like red baby

let's go i can hold this for half an hour at least let's go red and then i was like wait a goddamn minute wait zones yellow yes yellow red just keep it above one i think i have to be at 153 or above and to be in yellow and And so that was my goal. That was my goal continuously. We'll see. Yeah, I'm back on fitness talking. It's my fault. But I was feeling really good after one of my trial days where I got about 250 meps.

And then the next day I was like, oh, I'm actually a little sore. So 250 meps is not for free. So I did about 750 mepsps we'll see what tomorrow brings but my expectation is bees tomorrow brings bees blue blue my expectation is old man grinding in abominable spirit uh strategy we'll see how if you do blue and green and just do long sessions and hammer it out, even like a couple 50% one pointers in there sometimes, like you'll grind out a fuck ton. That's the idea.

You're going to get a lot. And the, it really, what it comes down to is I'm pretty sure that I can't do yellows and reds day after day, after day, after day without getting cumulatively sore. Yeah.

I'm hoping I don't get too sore on this bike. I have to buy an elliptical for when I finally pick out and buy a house for the workout room. And so I've been tossing around the idea of just buying one now and bringing it here. Moving it. And then just moving it. But we'll see.

Depends. They're not that hard to move if you have a ramp uh almost all of the nice models you know you lift one end up and it's got some roller wheels i i've got a pretty nice elliptical it's not here but uh but i like it a lot i've burned three meps during this podcast i don't know how kyle is burning so many meps i thought when i got up to poop that might have been my other map What do you have burned one four six one four seven Probably just wrong. You have a hundred and forty seven sitting. How is that possible?

My my heart rate I have I have one My heart rate is at 39% right now. It's not work harder. It's work smarter, Taylor. Mine was at 40 when you said that. Yeah, it's 39. Aren't you continuously flexing your muscles? I think Kyle's machine is defective in an advantageous way. Here we go. How on earth do you have 140 points sitting here talking?

Dude, 8,000 calories. Because my heart rate is bouncing back and forth between 80 and 115. Like my heart rate is 102 right now, 103 right now, 104, 107, 110. Doing what? Sitting here talking. Now it's a 114. That's a really high heart rate to just be sitting here. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, nobody's beating Kyle. How old are you, Kyle? 32. Okay, this is another reason that my initial point of you can't wear these on the show is salient. If Kyle's the only one who can get 100... Yeah, that does seem unfair to me. We're a little less than three hours in,

or two hours and two and a half, 30, two and a half hours in. And you've got 130 points, 148, 148 points. Yeah. Fuck that.

That's not fair at all. How is it not? Normal resting heart rate for adults over the age of 10. It's between 60 and a hundred. Cheese I'm talking about and why I'm not doing that fucking punishment. Woody's over here talking about doing an entire day of 10. It's between 60 and 100. This is the fucking cheese I'm talking about and why I'm not doing that fucking punishment. Woody's over here talking about doing an entire day of blue. How am I not allowed to get four hours

while we do this? Woody would be doing some tasks. He'd be moving something. Doing like light jogging. Sitting here and getting 150 points. I could sit anywhere and get 150. Hold on, Kyle. That's why you're so thin. Your heart's working so hard constantly. Extraordinarily happy or sad. Your emotions can raise your pulse's working so hard constantly extraordinarily happy or sad your emotions can raise your pulse maybe he's just really happy to it maybe if you were also

self-actualized and happy yourself your your heart rate would reflect maybe then i'd be pre-hypertension maybe you know but yeah that's that's unreal have you ever like had your chart checked or anything yeah all the time all the time. All the time? You know what I mean. A couple times a year I go to the doctor. I get a physical once a year. I'm all good.

Get my blood pressure and blood drawn, tested, that sort of thing. All right. Well, I guess we're putting up with this nonsense for this episode, but let's stop doing that for the show. That's not fair if you get 150. No, we're only two and a half hours through. You'll get 200 max. What other points in the week am I not allowed to wear my sensor, Taylor? No, just here.

Just here. So when you're working, I can wear it, though. This is on you, Woody. I need to be the tiebreaker? No, no, no, no. You brought this up, this conversation, bringing this up again on a topic we have laid to rest. I see no issue with it. It's a heart rate monitor uh you know

i'm i'm burning calories as i sit here i'm just burning more calories than you guys this is a this is part of that whole my metabolism is a little bit faster than yours kind of thing this is why i can eat junk food i burn calories sitting here faster than the rest of you i'm not actually pissy at you for it like i know there's no're not. I know there's no chance I'm going to catch you. If I were Woody, though, I'd be like, get that shit off. Smart play with three. Honestly, I was really impressed when I saw the 700 points roll in. I was like, shit. I was really thinking that it was going to go first day, Kyle, Chiz, Woody, me,

and you really stormed up there. At the end of the show, I'm sure Chiz will be ahead, but that's just because of the times you guys work out. But yeah, I guess my thought process of the number of neps needed was so low. There's a part of me that says he shouldn't be able to wear it during the show because he's getting points and I'm not.

And another part of me is like, well, it appears that this is true all the time. This is what happens when I play Call of Duty. Why is this show unique, right? If Kyle can apparently just, I don't know, lay in bed and stay in the gray. No wonder he thinks the blue is so easy. This is easy to concede to

early, though. This is 19 hours in now. 18 hours. Everyone was high at the start of this, and now one hour later, everyone's ready to concede to Kyle. Filthy. Green is walking. I'm in the room here. Green is walking for me.ited shit i swear to god i don't even get into into gray walking like i'm at like 47 or something i'm green i'm green when

i walk if i um if i walk or i need to like brisk it up a little bit or I'll fall out into the wrong gray. Yeah. Yeah, I did a – You lucky duck. You're going to tear us up. Here's my – like before the show, like I started at – I did this two-hour and 54-minute workout. And if you look at where it goes from gray to blue, that's walking. I walk at blue and green inter intersplice and then i'm like

it would be hard to walk a little bit more briskly and i go to yellow i mean i go to green and then i'm like i bet i could just jog for five seconds and then walk and then jog for five seconds and then walk and then it's like an it's like an hour of yellow like a solid giant yellow band there my wife is the same way as you kyle like when we do because i told you we're doing this nine round stuff right and like we go there she can't get out of the red because her heart rate just accelerates she's she's quite fit she works out hard and but she can't get out of the red she has to actively try to slow down to hit yellow right i've earned so many me it takes me a while to get up that way

like i i much i tend to hang out in the green is tend to be where i'm at when i'm working at a decent pick decent clip i've earned enough mets at this point to already have a badge i'm iron level yeah every month you hit 1300 you get uh like you move up so yeah i was satisfied his month today. Yeah. Take a break for the next 27 days, then come back, hit it hard. All right. Sounds good. That's a good plan.

I believe in you. I'm enthusiastic about tomorrow. I want to bring the heat. I might work out tonight. I don't know. I do need my sleep. Yeah, man. Get after it. That'll help you sleep.

Might. We'll see. I would if I could. God god this thing is so tight i need to loosen it uh anyway let me do a quick i'll be fit and cuter after this oh yeah we all will it's gonna be great i'll probably finish those corks off you'll come back a little pudgier yes that wine weight sorry Kyle go ahead no no worries uh remember a few years ago when you could go out have a few drinks and bounce back the next morning like nothing happened I just learned about the way to help you bounce back like the good old days morning recovery is engineered to help your body detox and rehydrate after drinking

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YouTube Music. It's all here. I get into the blue when I do an ad because I'm so pumped for these products. Getting into the blue very easily. I have a topic. right all right the question i'm going to ask you is did this guy do anything wrong so he pleaded not guilty to second degree manslaughter charges what happened was a bunch of teenagers 15 and 16 year olds apparently two of them was a bunch of teenagers,

15 and 16 year olds, apparently two of them, offered this Uber driver $70 to let one ride on the roof of the vehicle. Car surf, he's going to stand on top of the roof while the other one films it and posts it to social media. He said yes. And then they withdrew their offer

and said $70 was too much, it wasn't worth it. So they made another offer, would you do it for $40? Would you let us stand on the roof of your car and car surf for $40? And he said yes to that too. Well, one of them died a little. And...

And now they're holding him responsible for manslaughter. Yes. He is responsible for manslaughter. Absolutely. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Yes, really. Just because they wanted to do a retarded thing doesn't make him any less responsible

for driving the vehicle that I assume they fell off of and died. Yeah. Yeah, his skull was fractured a bit and he died in his sleep. What's the point of the intro for the 70 versus the 40? What's the relevance of that? You know what it was? Before I said it, I thought that

he made a counteroffer 40 and it was his idea. And then as I was explaining it, I realized that I had it wrong in my head and said it correctly. Yeah, he's responsible. You wouldn't let a kid do that with you. Let's imagine we're at one of our YouTube events and we're in the parking lot afterwards as we often have been. And there's a fan fan that we've had fans come up to us as we're loading our equipment into our rental car and getting ready to go if that kid was like hey woody i don't want you to sign anything i don't i don't need a handshake or a selfie i'd love to ghost ride your whip could you make that happen for me and yeah i'd like you to drive of course so you're 70

no would be your answer get out of here i don't want to be responsible for the death of a minor much less one of a minor who's one of my my my audience i think i'd let a stranger ride in the bed of my truck there you go yeah there you go like buckle up on your back there but there is a piece of me that's like these guys they came up with the idea they paid for this service it turns out it was a really bad idea they're 15 and 16 and 16 yeah what chipper only i'm gonna say exactly that's the only thing you're allowed to be not liable for is if you are overseeing them and they're managing a wood chipper that you've hired them to do. Therefore, you're fine. Any other scenario, you're liable.

Well, there are seats in a car for a reason. You know, like you don't ride on – I've done it. I've done this before. I've had my – I've got a video somewhere. I know I do. I've got gotta look on which hard drive it's on but we're driving down a road in idaho i want to say in my silver truck and we're going 55 miles per hour and i crawl out the window and get on the hood of the fucking car

and i like reach my hands behind me and grab like the lip of the hood where it meets the windshield and comedically i'm kind of looking back like pretending like I'm scared. But the road is so flat and so straight. It's Idaho. I don't know if you've ever been there. It's flat. It's flat, like endless land. So I can see if a car is coming literally two miles away.

Like if we see a car, I'm going to tap the hood. We're going to slowly pull over. And I'm going to get back in the car. Like I don't want to perhaps meet a state patrolman or something doing this stupid thing but as i'm doing it i know that like this for this is on me in this instant i feel like it's on me because i'm like doing my video thing and this is for fun but i know if it goes wrong no one else is going to see it that way especially legally speaking scott is responsible for this because scott's behind the wheel scott's the one that i'm like when i give the thumbs up he's getting her up to 65 or whatever we were doing like in the video

like he's holding like my one of my big cameras like a medium-sized panasonic and he it starts on the uh the speedometer and you're like, Oh, okay. They're, they're going 60 big whoop. And then it's like zoom out, zoom out, pan up. And there I am like looking in like, and it sort of pans out to show that we're like driving down an interstate highway. Hilarious. But we were both doing something very stupid for me because I could have died. We're adults. That's fair to say as well. I used to do something similar as a teenager.

I forgot. I used to do this all the time. I didn't go on the hood, but we thought it was cool to ride in the bed. So while the car was at speed, we'd climb out like the passenger window and around the side into the bed and back. And I don't know. We got proficient at it. But it wasn't like your

road it was new jersey kirby oh god yeah they're gonna smell deer you're a light-headed you're thinking of north jersey yeah where you left i know i've lived in both but yeah i look i pick on jersey anytime I get a chance. I've only been there twice or whatever. It really smelled. I was there with him one time. Right where the devils play, exit 16W and it smells bad.

I was like, this is Woody's home state. Roll him up! You can see why I moved. Roll him up! Yeah. People do stupid things in cards, but when an adult interjects himself,

especially into the stupid hijinks of kids, they're then responsible and culpable. Yeah, I think that's the biggest issue. I don't know that he's entirely responsible. These kids clearly have their own stupid ideas, the adult they don't think especially for such like i mean they paid him ten thousand dollars you'd be like i understand i understand why he did this he knew there was risks but the payoff was like he's going to take those risks you're gonna pay him 40 bucks for this like jesus like i don't know what he's getting as a as an uber driver but even 40 bucks

isn't like that's that's still not good money for an Uber driver, right? That's not the take-home for the night as an Uber driver. You're not like, sweet, I made $40 tonight. This isn't like they doubled or tripled his nightly earnings or something. He's dumb. This guy is just an idiot, bad decision maker. He's a payoff as a 24-year-old. He's so much lower than the risks associated with that.

Yeah, and he's about to find that out like for a 24 year old to agree to a drunk a couple of drunk 16 year olds if a couple of my drunk like a couple of drunk people my age come up oh let us ride on top of your car i'll give you you know if they say five if they say five thousand dollars i'm gonna go no because i'll probably end up in prison forever and the first cop that sees you doing that, even if you don't get hurt, I'm going to jail. You can't do those things. Reckless endangerment, right?

Wouldn't it be reckless endangerment? Yeah. And if certain things... Maybe contributing to the delinquency of a minor, if you start getting super nitty gritty. God knows about the traffic laws. What do you mean, traffic laws? The traffic laws of putting

someone on your hood and driving down the fucking road oh yeah i bet you know i bet that would be one of those things where they were like uh it would be like it would be like an air bud yeah where they'd be like necessary acceleration what is this one there's nothing that says you can't ride on top of a moving vehicle so therefore you can't like no it wouldn't be like air bud rules they would be like well we forgot to write it but clearly this is a rule you dumb cunt now you with his baton it feels like a batonable offense an extra one for creativity yeah uh here i'll share this one now this one i'm uh maybe with the law this This guy, Daniel Hernandez, famously known as Takashi69 and 69, has been sentenced to four years probation for using a child in a sexual performance.

Now, I have this character flaw in me. I don't know. Sometimes they give people the benefit of the doubt. They say one thing, and I'm like, well, maybe the truth is here. I don't know. So I heard Child in it. He was online videos of him engaging with an underage girl. That's a different thing.

But here he was making a thrusting motion with his pelvis and smacking her on the butt. And I thought it was for his rap video, right? Is that that crazy? He was 18 she was 13 that's that's where he lost me i thought she was going to be 16 or 17 an actress that he hired and right it felt like it was going to be one of these like near like near age like getting charged with stuff when like i hired super close and age shit i hired that chick to wear a bikini and grab my cock in that video that time of age but all right if you i don't know if i heard that you're a little older than 18 too but if i heard an 18 year old hired a 16 year old actress to do a music video and in

that music video he slapped her on the buttocks and made a thrusting motion at her i'd be like she was an actress like you know the actresses get in brooke shields was boob you know topless in blue lagoon at what she was bottomless in blue lagoon oh she was a ripe 13 yeah she was the 13 that looked old man that's fucked up looking it is fucked up yes but i guess what i was saying is if she was about to be legal, I would think that show business shit like this happens. You know there's like pedophiles out there who just have like the most worn copies of Blue Lagoon.

They barely even play right anymore. There's like little glitches in the tape at the start and end of all of her scenes. Was she really bottomless in that? She's like naked swimming in the lagoon. In the blue lagoon yeah i've literally never seen the movie i only know all the references to her being nude but yeah this guy's this this chick's 13 you can't do that but he's gonna say it doesn't even matter what happened doesn't matter what happened doesn't matter anything about it it's just like it's just another stupid fucking decision isn't it

like yeah like i don't like would you ever willingly put yourself in that situation no like i would never do that like what a stupid fucking idea it always makes you think like artists and like like whether it's authors or movies or anything like that like when they include the same things over and over like you start to think that they're into it or like like it a lot like tarantino with his feet is a good example where like he'll just come up with examples of uh oh here's a good this this blew my mind i thought it was a meme and a joke there's this guy who makes children's shows named dan schneider on uh disney i believe it is and like feet in those disney shows like i carly i've never watched i carly but i saw like screen grabs on twitter of when it happened like there's quite a few like feet related things and

episodes and there was one thing that like uh this guy dan schneider tweeted at one point where it was like hey send me messages written on your feet like it was in response like he asked him a question he's like and send back your responses with your answers written on your feet like it was in response like he asked him a question he's like and send back your responses with your answers written on your feet and so it's just a bunch of like young girls and like kids sending him pictures of their feet like with stuff on there and like when i saw that i was like this can't be true this can't be a thing that happened that's that's ridiculous and i looked up and i'm like oh my god imagine the balls it takes to go, yeah, I'm in defeat. I'm going to tweet out.

I'm going to tweet out, send me something written on your feet. I'm a jokey guy. And it's like, ah, that is not a normal... You should have replied, Taylor. He'd be so disappointed. That would be weird. I should have replied. I might just type, like, creep on the bottom.

By the way, Blue Lagoon, Brooke Shields, she was 14, used a body double. What? Yeah. The text says she was no stranger to controversy. Before Blue Lagoon at age 14, two years earlier, so she was 12, she played a child prostitute in Pretty Baby. But in Lagoon, her mother insisted on a body double and used her hair taped to her chest.

So that's what it says. Although she did pose for Playboy when she was 10, so there's also that. Ah, yes. Well, that can't be true. How much do you want to bet? I love when something so absurd comes up that you can't even believe it yeah

pose for playboy at 10 yeah how does that work there's no way that's true true or false taylor book shields pose for playboy at 10 years old you know what i'm gonna go out and say false filthy you want to throw in an opinion yeah but the problem is my opinion is being totally informed by your attitude not by anything to do with that if you if i had heard that as just like a fact thrown out to me in twitch chat like someone twitch chat said that'd be like i don't think so sounds wrong there you go wait here okay this has to be it it is true funny i almost brought up the fact with this like when you started going down the art route like sometimes the the point of

some of the art stuff is to like push envelopes or push society's perceptions about stuff and i'm always like i always feel like it's such a stupid fucking idea when it comes to something like of this type of behavior like society doesn't want its perceptions pushed around this and i don't want to be i don't want to be i don't want to be part of the the group of people doing the pushing but what was it what was the statement being made in playboy for this was to say like freedom of press thing or what was it what was the actual these these can have been nude pictures that never been allowed to be published so what was it she was naked but she was in a bathtub so which implies to me that she's covered in a bit

in a way or maybe just a 10 year old i cannot believe i've never heard of this i thought you were doing a bit kyle yeah it sounded it sounded like it didn't yeah i i i thought so obviously it sounded like it was true the way he was like yeah because he was confident in it but i thought it was a bluff i didn't think it was a bluff when he said it just it's one of those things exactly it's so absurd it's so random to see if he could get one of us to believe it that's what I thought was happening I didn't

by the way she's so naked that they're having to blur both the top and the bottom in the image oh do you see something yeah I found a YouTube video called brook shields at age 10 shocking photos and then it continues pizza gay hollywood pedo gay all right just ignore that part because this is the actual photo and like it's uh you're pretty not to share that link

yeah i won't share that link it's a youtube video uh but but yeah you don't have to i've got a downloaded version here she's torrented that quite some time ago um yeah she's... You don't have to. I've got a downloaded version here. She's... I torrented that quite some time ago. Yeah, she's sort of... I wouldn't say standing straight up, but sort of standing and slightly turned so that they have to blur her breasts. I mean, she's 10. Her top is exposed and her bottom is exposed.

You know what? That is weird to blur a 10-year-old's breasts because that's the age where it's like a child. You know what? That is weird to blur a 10-year-old's breasts because that's the age where it's like a child. You know? Only blurred in YouTube? This was full nudity in Playboy? Yeah. Seriously?

Yeah. What is the... Okay, so that's got to be hugely controversial. I mean, what year was this? 1975, was it? Okay. That's pretty fucking degenerate what do they well i was gonna say like you know you see like the the sexuality stuff going cycles right like i remember watching some old film sometime and being like just shocked it was like full frontal nudity for all like the entire film it was just something like that was the thing of the time so i'm kind of

curious there's so many right like what was the statement what was the uh i don't remember i don't remember what it was it's just some from my perspective as a kid it's just some old film i'm like why is everyone like there's just full frontal female nudity all through the film and i'm like so i'm kind of curious what don't probe you sure you weren't watching a porn yeah oh this is a privacy part a bit of porn you'd be like of course name it were they in outer space no no okay it's not what i'm thinking of right but so i kind of wonder like what was so when you're googling this guy like what is the surrounding stuff going on with this was it barbarella uh you know most of the things say 10 controversial pictures or you know brooke shields on coming to terms with her controversial past brook shields

hottest pics from the uh sugar and spice and all things not nice because i think the the article was called sugar and spice uh the one that that that featured her i think it didn't say she got paid 450 dollars uh yes um the original picture for which Shields was paid $450 Was taken by fashion photographer Gary Ross In 1975 for a Playboy publication Titled Sugar and Spice It was one of a dozen images of Shields Designed according to Gross

To reveal the not so latent sexuality Of the prepubescent child She was I wonder if she's okay Or if she's a little misused is she traumatized from it or no no no people are traumatized from like if a priest raped someone sometimes you learn it like 47 years old they still have issues from it well she didn't get raped her mom her mom was there organizing this thing it's better with a professional photographer she's already a model she's done plenty of posing

and look look i'm not saying it's right this is weird grooming it's weird but i i don't think she's traumatized i think this is like this is a common way that like children get groomed like they make like they raise them in a way that they make them think that all these little things that aren't normal are normal, and they boil the frog. Filthy probably knows about this. Yeah, Filthy's an expert in this. Bring it back, Woody.

Oh, that's saying it that way. You know how I mean it. But yeah, these kind of things, it's not good. It's not good to be, it oh i guess anesthetizing children against things that are clearly inappropriate well look um i just switched my search to images and there it is um i saw it took you that long to do it images well i like it it's it looked realish but i didn't like pixel peep or anything look there's a there's several of these photos um front full frontal and rear shots um and i'm gonna close this close this link now yeah you're right i just saw where boobs

will be someday and i was like this seems wrong i don't even know if it was real but yeah i mean okay so a little bit a little bit older. Okay, so if you go to like, I have a close female friend who at some point in her life, when she was early college years, she went and got nude photos done. And part of her thought with that,

like she was in a photography class. There was a photographer there who like kind of offered, had a whole contractual thing that she went through for this. And it was, her thought was like, I'm in great shape now. These are photos i'm gonna be proud of like you know like college girls to dress slutty dress slutty for halloween you won't always look like that

this is your year and all college girls except one yeah and nor should she no reason to have it like and that so to the point that not all of these are going to be traumatizing but then again she was 20 or something or 19 or whatever the hell it was of you know you know whatever you say about developmental ages still much much much more developed like not physically i'm talking here mentally in terms of decision making than a fucking 10 year old like the 10 year old making decisions we just had the conversation about 16 year olds aren't making decisions are 10 year olds making decisions. We just had the conversation about 16 year olds. Aren't making decisions. Are 10 year olds making decisions about their sexuality? Yeah, definitely not.

They're. And to be in like such a, such a, like, cause you're saying like, you know, Kyle's like, you know,

the mom's there. Like, is that a good or a bad thing? You see like these, you know, like, I can't remember. There's some cameras,

a movie now, or like a fucking documentary or both. Like on like the, um, Oh man. Like the, uh, the fashion pageant shit you know the kids

like getting the yeah yeah yeah like the the the like like the um what's the girl who got killed who was doing it um oh john benny ramsey type shit yeah yeah that should be illegal you're never quite sure where the kid is and where the parent is. And it's so intertwined. You'll never tease it apart. But like, yeah, it does. It does kind of catch you on that vibe of like, what the fuck is this? And why is this happening? Dude, that's so weird.

And there's got to be something wrong with it. And it doesn't have to actually be something wrong with it necessarily. It might be. It might be totally fine. It might have been what she wanted. She might have been all for this. Her mother might have thought it was a great move for her career. But fuck, you never know.

It does strike you as something you want to stay the fuck away from if possible yeah i went to a show once called frank's little beauties and and i'm gonna tell you i i got right out of there i could tell that something was going on wrong the host of the show was just ghastly looking and it looked just pale and short and fat and it looked like he was up to no good. Yep. I think it was Frank. I think it was. Mr. Reynolds. Frank Reynolds, that was the guy's name.

I don't want to move past this feet thing until we suss it out a bit more. Click on the link that I linked in our chat and it shows the tweet from the guy or from a show that he is like a producer or director for. So what type of show? No, I heard that good story earlier, but what is the show? What's

the age? What's the age of the target audience for this? The name of the show is Salmon Cat and it's a... All right, demographics getting younger it's it's a nickelodeon show sure ran between 2013 and 2014 and on the uh salmon cat um twitter it says salmon cat tomorrow right on the bottom of your foot take a pic and use hashtag salmon cat saturday we'll rt and follow until our fingers get sore and then it's just a bunch of clearly girls feet sitting there with things dressed on it and like or things written on it rather like this

this is fucking weird it's weird I keep doing this is it possible he just wanted to pimp the show no like the feet thing is a recurring part hey we're always talking about scenes of feet like in the shows he does, like there are references.

It seems shoehorned. Like I read some thread on. So it was. But I was reading something and it's like scour Reddit and whatever even subreddit it was on, but it was like a bunch of pictures showing like the recurring theme of feet and whatnot. And like sometimes like odd ways, like they didn't need to be feet in there. Is he a writer for this show?

He's a, I think he's like the head, the grand poobah of quite a few things over there. So like, so you think he's got the writers in on it too then? Cause presumably a feeder recurring theme that's on the writers and if he's no no he's like uh i think he's like the executive producer or something like he's not just a writer i guess what he was saying is you know he's really like putting that command from on high getting it to be executed all the way to

the writers and the cameraman and the storyboards and right exactly like oh yeah sure it's done in a way that it's like plausible deniability like oh i'm just being silly like yeah have the feet do this or that and tweet out and ask for girls to draw things on their feet and then send us pictures of it like there's no getting around that that's not weird i don't know though like it's weird now in this climate right like for the same reason as fucking like I don't want to be in a room with a child alone ever ever because I'm a white male of a certain age and I just don't want to put myself at that risk

for any reason ever the Mike Pitts solution you're absolutely right yeah remember when everybody blocked him for that and then Me Too came out and he's the only guy in America like like what is the Mike Pitts solution it was like almost a year ago now if not more where it came out that like mike pence is like yeah i don't have private meals with women who aren't my wife

like i don't go into like hotel rooms with them i don't put myself in a situation meetings like just one-on-one i'm not putting myself in a situation where they could bite me in the ass and everybody's like this is so sexist and horrible a lot of people felt like women didn't have opportunities that men did because he wouldn't even be alone with them right like you might get ahead by connecting with mike pence at dinner you there are good things that could happen for you and yeah i mean like but that's not the same thing as like if he went and had dinner with a woman in a packed restaurant that's not the same as being alone with another woman right right like there are people around like someone can't go mike pence assaulted me at olive garden they'd be like

no he didn't we were all there like we saw that he just had his breadsticks and was nothing but polite so so i had a one of these uh one of my internet was an internship one of my summer kind of paid positions at graduate school as I worked at this research center. And this research center worked with a lot of low-income families coming in. It was a research center on family violence. It was looking at child abuse. And anyways, there were a lot of community kind of questionnaires and stuff that people come in for and i got tapped as a graduate student one of the first times i was there to watch the kids of one of the participants as they came in which is crazy because i'm a fucking research psychologist graduate student this is not something i should be doing and the kid was in there playing they had like a playroom and i was

just sitting like kind of like making sure he wasn't getting into any trouble kid starts crying once his mother starts screaming you know like a little bit like making enough of a fuss mother people come in first thing that happens people are looking at me like this is somehow related to me this is a kid wants his mom crying about this like you know i tried to take his mind off it or distract him didn't work i don't know him from fucking hole in the wall style things there's no reason why he would think anything of that that that feeling for me was super uncomfortable i a made sure i didn't have to do that again, requested that, that, you know, this is not part of my job. This isn't something I should be having to do. And this is not something that I feel comfortable doing. You need to get someone else to do this. But also part of it for me is just like, I don't want to be in that

situation where I'm like, it's so easy to trash someone's reputation like that. It's so easy to, even if it isn't false accused, if it's really real accused or false accusation, either way, it doesn't matter. Like the people who get accused and then exonerated of child abuse or accused they were exonerated of of doing wrong in this they don't recover their reputation from that oh yeah yeah and not to say that that that happened to michael jackson i don't know one way or the other about that but certainly like i always thought my point right exactly but i always thought that from those accusations he was probably a pedophile and there was some weird fucking shit going on with the way he behaves towards children and god

alone knows what motivates that i certainly do not but man that creeped me the fuck out and i want no part of that type of reputation exchange i like i don't even i don't know if he was a pedophile like i don't think he probably was like i think that dude had a fucked up childhood and his dad that monster monster, put him in a state of arrested development almost where he didn't get a childhood, he didn't get to frolic and have fun with kids and be carefree, like his dad

Joe Jackson was just fucking screaming at him, beating him, abusing him SING! SING! Like all day, every day ABC! 1, 2, three! I was sure he was a pedophile a while ago, and now I'm not as sure.

Which illustrates Filthy's point, I think. I don't believe that he was. I've watched some documentaries talking about a lot of the accusers and their parents in particular. I absolutely, 100% do not believe that he was a pedophile. To bring it back here

do these kids feel like they're abused on this plane like they said if they went to the trouble they engage with the show they write the silly thing on their foot they probably do it for children child children's reasons they're probably having fun laughing about it silly thing all right this guy you have no idea is this an actual motivation of him is he a foot fetishist and this is him getting off you know you're right if it is what a brazen way to fucking do it but god loans you can't make any sense from it the culture goes there could be a there could be some more sexual element to that and even if there is i don't know how sinister that is one way or the other like is that illegal i don't know like like like should you should you be morally upset at this like i don't know like i don't feel one

way or the other about that if he's like soliciting for sexual purposes right but you can't confirm that or deny you don't know like there's obviously not enough proof of anything my main point is that this is fucking weird like this is not a norm like well nobody nobody asks people to do things like this, especially about shows that have a lot of... There are parts of your life I would find undoubtedly weird. You've told me, guys, for about an hour and a half about this weird fucking competition the three of you are doing.

I find that undeniably weird. Yeah, but I didn't tweet out for young girls' soles of their feet. Right. That's exactly my point, Woody. Out of PKA. Right? Like, that's all. Yeah, so, I don't know.

Like, is this a weird where I need to be concerned about it? I don't know. Like, this strikes me, no personal interaction. If you told me he was messaging these people individually or, like, there was ever any interaction between him and the children, like, but I guess Twitter is an interaction. I don't fucking know. Like, it starts to

blur so many lines between what you're looking at and the motivations of that and your ability to prove those motivations and then your ability to prove or not prove harm and it's really complicated set morality aside is there and this is a genuine question coming from me is there anything legal there like like if i openly say i really like little girls feet that's what does it for me little girls out there eight to twelve that's my niche write x y and z on your on your little toesy woesies and and tweet and and fucking dm me those like can't like obviously like that would would be taken very poorly by the populace at large. You get banned from Twitter most likely.

But is there any legal ramification? Can I not go out on the street to 10-year-old girls and be like, hey, can I take some pictures of your feet? And if their mom's like, why? Be like, oh, this is what gets me off. Can they do anything? Right. The cow's not talking about labia.

There you go. Look at what i just linked it's a bunch of examples of feet being used in the shows he's made and some of these are fucking weird oh i like the ketchup feet that's hot some of these not even feet this is just a crying girl that's what does it for me i like the one where like the girl there's a couple of the girls licking their own feet um yeah i foot fetishes aren't a thing that i'm into at all but like i've been on like cam sites and stuff and like i've noticed that like that's what guys will often request like like like some hero will come in and he'll drop like 500 whatever some hero comes in and he drops like 500 whore bucks on on on lucy lou that's right Budginson is an Excel sheet issue.

Danny Horbucks. And she'll use a Hitachi or she'll come for the audience or she'll do what everybody wants to see. She'll wear her titties finally or whatever it is. But then some Nimrod comes in and he's like, here's $175.

Just wiggle your toes at me for the next five minutes. And she's like, oh yeah yeah yeah you want to see these tozy wozies like she'll they never like kink shame because that's their business right but you know in their head they're like here we fucking go again tozy wozies is back they must love that like that would be like the best thing ever is to be a porn star just for feet people oh god you think it would be so

the best i got the best what would you have to do like walk on like waffles with syrup and like weird i don't know puppy stomping.org visit today no the best about the best the best is the dominatrices who who are in a very niche uh type of dom you just made your own plural no that's a real one who uh right right phil they like that that's correct dominatrixes i thought you might know i didn't want to drag out the old expert joke but i was like it's kind of like healthy nose i'll get back the dominatrixes who are into i'm a victor maybe pope pay pig fetish now a pay pig uh is is when you are financially dominating a man now we're all familiar with other types of physical domination where perhaps the and femdom type play like the woman will spank the man or whip the man or sort

of like do other degrading acts to him like step on him you know um smothering there's there's a there's it runs the gambit like a huge spectrum of things that she can do to the man for his pleasure that are degrading demeaning etc etc pay pig is when she's literally like fucking send me five hundred dollars you you piece shit. That's all you're good for. You pay pig, pathetic, limp dick bitch. And he's just like,

Oh fuck. Yeah. PayPal. Oh yeah. And like, he sends that 500 and that's getting him off because he's being degraded and used in that manner. That has to be so sad.

Like that is the best. Really? That's probably, that's his like two fucking fetishes that made, or two people who just made the perfect match. you got the woman who's selling sex in some degree who that's probably great work and you got the guy who gets off on paying for sex or paying for that element that sounds like a great match here's why i think it's not cool because i suspect afterwards that clarity of mind you get post ejaculate he's like what have i done this is

terrible that's not so bad oh that's so much worse than like looking at some horrible kind of porn where you have like the what kind of person am i that i just looked at that well like with finances it's like well i guess my mortgage is fucked oh that was that was a really expensive cum. Sure, okay. What if he's financially well off and that's not a big deal for him to drop a couple hundred bucks that way? People who are into this kind of shit can't be that financially well off

or they would... Okay, filthy, I'll answer that. Because if he's that filthily well, if he's that financially well off that he can drop a few hundred dollars, he's not being dominated. No, you're not. That makes sense because like the whole point is supposed to be the pain right maybe you can't you can't you can't you can't just broadly sweep like the whole point is the pain

that's what we do here the whole point is the humiliation like the being dominated no you can't you can't even say that taylor because the people people are doing this individual going into this for different reasons and you can if you ask fucking 20 people why they're doing this you get 20 different reasons not and they might share some commonality agree it has to hurt therefore it's true i mean it it has to be something that's unpleasant that's quasi being forced on them right like not really forced but but they buy into it. If you gamble an ounce that's so small, there's no magic there. Yeah, like if you're a billionaire

and you play... We're assuming that the pay-pig dollar amount isn't on a sliding scale, where if you're a guy who's bringing home $2 million a year, you might have to pay-pig this bitch $10,000. That's what I am saying, though. I'm saying that you know i agree

that afterwards in the in the post ejaculate clarity that we all get i think we all get and he's like what have i just done what have i just done i gave her so much that i was humiliated i gave enough really what if the post-coital for him is you know like fuck i finally had an orgasm that's fulfilling i finally can like stop obsessing about this for a little bit and go back to my life or it could be or it could be just like shit that was good like what a fucking great experience i can't wait till next month where i've got 10 grand again to spend on this or maybe scale it down whatever it happens to be i got 100 bucks where this is bookmarked that way right maybe i just can't get myself in the headspace of someone who gets financially dominated for fun. But the difference between these is then like you're looking at pathology or not.

And part of the hallmarks of pathology is when this becomes problematic to the rest of your life. That's one of the definitions of that. So if you take it and you go, it's not path. If you start from, it's not a pathological interaction. You go for someone who's not pathological doing this, then it isn't going to be negatively impactful on their life to a meaningful way. So in which case, I don't give a shit. If it seems like the best matchup of all time all time if it's this is that easy for her and

she's happy with it and this is that easy for him and he's happy with it well it's a good of the world if you're not pathological about it i feel like you lack commitment any lady pay throw the challenge down there's any lady pay pigs out there who would like to slip me a few dollars to talk. I say horrible things to them. Kyle and I tag team. We say awful things to each other and you get to watch. Ooh. Yeah, it's dirty.

I'll say, Kyle, right? You're hitting the wrong audience right now. On the bottom of your foot. The majority of fetishes are male, right? Like the majority of that. So yeah, you want to hit the female audience. I want to watch you try really hard to put that bicycle helmet on

and keep failing over and over. Oh yeah, that's what does it. I put two on the sides and I tape the middle. They'll make fun. Oh yeah. All right, now try to put those earmuffs on while I laugh at you. Only one ear.

Look at him. Look at Taylor right now. You think he's only got one on, you think he i laugh at you only one ear look at him right now you think you think he's only got one on you think he's only got on one ear because it's stylish or because it's more comfortable taylor's dom ahead of the of the show sat down and was like you show your commitment by only wearing one ear on and he's been doing that for years i can see that taylor oh it's because so you can hear yourself speak? It's just always been more natural for me to hear like the actual volume

of my voice like with my ear instead of getting the feedback into the headphones, you know? I don't know why it's easier for me

to talk. I invented this thing in my own head that headsets were so tight on you that they gave you headaches. It's crazy. They got a muscular head.

They don't extend enough. They always send it to him one size too small. These masseter muscles. God, if I could earn MEPs with these, you guys could aggregate your scores. You don't think you can? I'm still earning three MEPs. I haven't earned a MEP since our last conversation.

Hilarious. Almost at 200. Get yourself a whole ton of bubble gum and just chew it chew it real hard like like so much so that your jaws are getting sore one map you earned a bit along the way i wonder what you were doing no no i had one last time too oh okay this is the problem this is you know you can you can argue all you want he's got 24 hours you have one hour a day but he's just right now work 200 to 1 efficiency you can't take that away from him like this is uh i'm not gonna say you can't do it because you're gonna win anyway although it does you have such a lead it is kind of in bad sportsmanship to woody and shiz and just sit

there and wear it and earn today it took me like an hour of like four and higher like three to four on a bike to get 200 and he gets it sitting here yeah that's right and i think that just goes to show how much fucking effort i put into this show and how it's not because of trash diets and then terrible diets for decades on end causing my heart to struggle and never know where the next meal is coming from. It's not that. It's that I fucking care about this program and you listeners out there. Well, maybe next time we'll do a competition where we lift our body weight

for as many times as we can or something like that. All right. That'd be nice and fair for me and Chiz and Woody. I weigh more than you. You're stronger than me,ally speaking though that also isn't a very fun competition oh yeah like if we end up doing like i think it should be based on the amount of money you can get from uh becoming pay pigs or the vice versa whatever the what's the what is it and what's the other side of that call pay uh uh cash cunt

it's good that has a ring to it that one's already taken because that's what they want like they want meanness at least my clientele does i would never be so bold as to paint the many diverse people who like ruining their lives financially with a broad brush there you go for seeing people's feet or like seeing somebody masturbate. This is part about being responsible. Kyle. Part of being responsible. Just ask some questions.

Hopefully not too personal. Do you have any of these symptoms? Fainting, lightheaded or dizziness, rapid heartbeat or palpitations, fluttering in the chest, bounding pulse, chest pressure,

tightness or pain, shortness of breath or fatigue. Are any of these ringing a bell? No. None of those things like that, no. Certainly not fatigue. Quickly. Yeah. It is.

Because I'm trying so hard right now. I put effort into this, Taylor. You may be sitting over there lazing through the three, four-hour show, relaxing and just – No, I'm focused. I'm determined. I have every muscle in my body. I'm constantly doing hummingbirds over here. Imperceptible.

What's a hummingbird? Imperceptible to the human eye. Is that when you wag your knees back and forth? Is that what a hummingbird – No, it's like micro leg lifts, calf raises that you can't even tell you're doing. Oh, I was doing those earlier. That's why I strapped,

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during this show like i or two hours ago i was like you know what i'm pretty determined and i will not concede and even now it seems silly to concede 23 hours in but goodness gracious if he earns this many meps doing flipping nothing. Yeah. I told you. I'm going to do my laundry tomorrow. And while I'm out, there's a track near me. It's a quarter mile. And he'll do quick steps around a quarter of it.

I'm just going to start walking. I'm just going to start walking around the track until I don't feel like I can anymore. I'll be in green the entire fucking time. But it'll be a fun competition. So let's see what we can all do. Let's all do our best. We're only 23 hours in. We'll see what we can do.

Yeah, yeah. No, these numbers mean nothing. It's fair. It's fair. Yeah, it's early, early. I could hurt myself tomorrow and be out for a week or days or i could get so sore i can't work out yourself tomorrow and you're bedridden you'll probably only get 700 800 meps a day that's right i'll tell you what honestly like

if 200 is just resting sitting and it's what when it's about 100 an hour a little bit less like 75 an hour yeah that. That's 75 an hour. That's pretty good for just passively sitting there. It seems insane. If I broke a leg, I'd find a way. The first thing that pops in my head is rigging up like a hammock, like getting in the sex swing and tying a rope to the wall and just pulling and then releasing and pulling

and swinging myself using my arms or whatever. I'd find a way. I'd get one of those fucking... I'd go rent it if I had to. Like a wheelchair maybe. I bet I could wheel around a track and get crazy maps. What was your daily so far today, Kyle? Today I did 1,500.

Just over 1,500. 17. But 24 hours... Okay, so eight hours sleeping, right? Yes. Okay, so we're calling so eight hours sleeping, right? Yes. Okay, so we're calling that 16 hours. That's when you're not wearing the thing? You're wearing the thing 16 hours?

No, no, no, no. I didn't wear it continuously throughout. I only wore it when I was working out or cooling down from a workout. Like, I don't take, if you took it off right after you got off the rowing machine, that'd be dumb because you're still, like, elevated and it takes a while to get back to normal sure but um 75 16s are 1200 okay you should just wear that if like joe rogan's best workout day was 1200 and you can do that sitting still well i i i'm joking about like like putting effort into the show but i really am like like like my i guess like like flexing my diaphragm like like when I'm speaking right now, I'm

kind of animated and forceful in the way that I talk and I have to like jump in sometimes and like I get excited for the show. I enjoy doing it. You get forced to like shovel cereal, for example tomorrow morning and kind of keep that up? I don't eat cereal. It's bad for you. Only blocks of cheese. Fair.

That's keto. I don't know why it took me a while to be like, oh, cereal's below Kyle's standards because I sometimes have cereal. What am I thinking? What am I thinking? This is below Kyle's standards? He has Taco Bell in bed meals. I have Taco Mac in bed

meals. Much classier. Much classier. What is Taco Mac? It's a thing. It's a chain that's around Atlanta or I don't know where else. In Georgia, South Carolina, I've seen them. It's Mexican food. It's Mexican food. That's all that matters.

It's good, tasty, delicious. They deliver it. Okay. I'm in the blue, baby. In the blue! Even if I get really emphatic yelling, I'm not getting into the blue. Yeah. If I get really emphatic yelling, I'm not getting into the blue. Yeah. If I get really emphatic yelling,

I'm not into the gray. I may get to the blue. If I'm like screaming and angry and upset, I wouldn't know right now because my thing deep paired and it won't attach again. So this is going to be fun. At least I have lots of time. Like it would be one thing if I had hundreds fewer hours across this month to try and compete,

but I don't. It's really fair. Which is why I'm so happy, so overjoyed when Kyle and Chiz traipse into the subreddit like they're the punishment kings going like, you know, we're fine with whatever. We're fine with anything.

We're the cool guy. It's like, Kyle, of course you're the cool guy in this. This is like me like me being like hey guys we're having a competition over the next month between me kyle woody and chiz to see who can have sex the most times punishment is that you have to be slashed 50 times and pieces of glass are in the cat of nine tails no no no the punishment is clearly you become a pay pig to kyle for an episode where you have to throw money at him across the course of the show to a point that it's financially punishing to you. That's clearly a punishment that needs to happen. Chiz linked all of us six instances of people shitting all over what we were doing upvoted three four hundred votes a whole

bunch dozens of comments the people who listen to this show are biggest fans the people who pay for Patreon the people who like come back every week they're all shitting on our idea and I basically said hey I see that you're upset with these ideas please give me yours and then I even gave you hey, I see that you're upset with these ideas. Please give me yours.

And then I even gave you an out. I was like, hey, keep in mind, Taylor works. And he has to work in a professional environment. So make your punishments reflect that. I wasn't going in and trying to make it look bad. So he probably has access to money. I know. So it wouldn't be that hard because he spent all of his entire month making money that he could then donate to you as part of the punishment for losing oh i'd love that i'd

love that we already took the financial punishments out of third okay okay yeah there was some originally choose i mentioned it i was uh about 150 points ahead of chis now he's ahead of me yeah yeah actually he's well ahead of me if you deduct my prior ones. I forgot about that for a second. Maybe he did too. Because it looks like he intentionally just bettered my score and stopped there. Yeah, I think

maybe his hands are hurting him a bit with the rower. When you row for a long distance, you get blisters. I've got the beginnings of them i ordered gloves tonight because like like it is harder on your hands i've been using like at first i was like i'm gonna wear gloves and then like i don't know two hours in i was like i need gloves and i looked around and all i had was like those mechanics gloves like they're not bad people they're not bad they definitely helped but still like like it starts wearing on you like well i mean you know like they're not meant. They're not bad. They definitely helped. But still, like, it starts wearing on you.

Well, I mean, you know, like, they're not meant for that kind of heavy-duty, intense, high-level athletic performance. So I ordered some that are specifically made for, like, gripping. Are you sitting on that cushion now, the one you ordered for the rower? No, it won't be here until tomorrow. My ass is so sore even sitting here right now i'm like my calves and quads are feeling it a bit and that's my biggest concern i'm trying to stay out of that zone where i break down because there's 29 days left in this thing i sent you a picture of um uh my my legs in the ice water and uh and i don't know if you could tell how red they were um i also much you said they were purple your toes like my toes my tone my

toenails were purple like like when i got out it's hard to tell in the photo yeah i know it's lame um and i also made a video like when i first sat in and i'm and i'm just like all right i'm in here control your breathing this is horrible and like the first thing i feel is my abdominal muscles like all cramping together like like not a cramp but like like contracting like they're like squeezing themselves in to like try to retain heat and like but but i and look i'm not trying to sound like a badass here i'm not trying to toot my own horn i don't quite understand why why like athletes, I've seen UFC fighters get in it and act like it's more excruciating than any fight. Two 10 minutes passed and I was like, restart. And I went to 20 minutes and 20 minutes passed and I was like, five more. And I did 25 minutes in there.

When I got out though, like I looked in the mirror and you could see the line where the water was and everything below it was bright red and everything was numb. Like so numb I could have been operated on. It was ridiculous but i feel better i feel great it's weird that it didn't bother you i i um i've never done an ice bath like that it bothered me i did it for my foot when it was broken the idea was to get the swelling down uh swelling was preventing healing and i was doing everything i could because i really wanted to get better and fully and quickly so So like four minutes in,

I felt like it was burning hot, like bad. It seemed like, I'm like, all right, I think I'm damaging skin at this point. And I thought that was all I needed. I'll say this, and this might explain what you're describing here. My feet are the only thing that hurt. My toes, between my toes and the top and sides of my feet were sort of burning.

And so like, I sort of did this thing where I like hyper extended my like knees and like put my feet out of it, which I felt like was maybe exposing more muscle tissue or something anyway. And like my quads and stuff. And you don't need to be in there. You're fine. My feet didn't need to be in there.

Like, like the first ice bath, I had my hands in there too. And I'm just like, why am I doing this this to myself i don't have hand soreness so so yeah ice baths for sure a bunch of people recommended them i had already planned to do them i'm gonna try cryotherapy out uh next week i'm gonna go that that's when they you get into this chamber and they lower the your the temperature down to like a negative 144 degrees for short periods of time um and it's supposed to have a similar effect yeah long you die the ice seemed

like a high effort thing you get 66 76 pounds of ice i fill up the trunk of my car i get these uh they have 22 pound bags at my local gas station at first I was getting 10 pound bags and it was just like my bathroom floor is covered in ice bags right now. But I, today was the more effective ice bath. The first one, the ice was already melting on the top by the time I got in and I got right in. Um, but this one, I filled the tub up with the water first and I poured 76 pounds of ice into there. And then I, and then like stirred the water and then i just got right in and just it's an immediate physiological reaction you have it's interesting but yeah it's it's the it's it's cheap you know it's ice it's a couple dollars a bag yeah it's a couple dollars a bag i i want

to say like a pain in the butt just buying that many bags of ice going out to the store to do an ice bath have you had any conversations with the clerk yet have you been back like for around two or three yet uh i've i've only i went to two separate gas stations the first gas station uh i want to say that i bought 60 pounds in 10 pound bags and it was like 16 and i was like this is kind of an expensive thing that i've got myself into if i'm going to be doing like two of these a day, am I going to be doing $900 worth of ice baths this month? But then today I went to a separate gas station. They're like, we got the mega bags.

And I was like, all right, I will take, what did I get? Whatever, four, maybe six, four or six mega bags. And that was the fucking ticket. They definitely, there was a layer of ice on the top of the water so i i know i was getting maximum refrigeration i need to get a thermometer because it would be it would be good to know and you know just to tell you guys and maybe the audience exactly how cold that water is you should definitely tape that to whatever leg your balls are near just like that like temperature gradient my dick was like seven inches long down to seven

yeah good solid seven inches if you're listening you missed that one it's an old but a good one. Do you guys want to watch this video of a police shooting? I love those. Are the bad guys getting shot? A bad guy. Well, actually, it's not super clear cut.

Someone's getting shot. There's going to be a shooting. I'm not sure that guy's bad enough to warrant shooting. We can discuss. All right. I'm going to play one second. Make sure it works. It will. All right. I'm queued that is bad enough to warrant shooting we can discuss I All right, I'm gonna play one second. It will all right. I'm cute up at zero. I'm good to go ready set play Watch he does not keep his hands up Oh! Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get down. Get down.

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Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Wait, I can't breathe, my heart, look. I got a breaking paper, look. You should have taken that. Oh, man. He's not going anywhere. Hey, he ain't not, he ain't not a police officer. Now, he's just shot me in the face. He's just shot me in the face. Oh!

Hey, now! And then he runs. What the fuck did I just see? What did they shoot him with? That's my question. I thought, as soon as I saw this the first time and saved it for the show, I was like, I need to hear Kyle's take on this. Is there some less than lethal thing that he's shooting, maybe? Yeah. I always thought getting shot in the face was worse than that.

There's a less than lethal device that's deployed from a Glock handgun. It looks like you took a grenade, I should say a 40 millimeter grenade, like the ones that a nolock handgun. It basically, it looks like you took a, like a grenade. And I should say a 40 millimeter grenade, like the ones that like a noob tube shoots. And then it's got like a, a plunger that comes out of it that goes in the barrel. And then a blank cartridge, like launch it. It hurts. It's equivalent to a sandbag type.

Oh, oh, it's serious business, but that wasn't it. No, because you can really see it. So that's someone getting shot twice and just basically being ow and running afterwards. Totally.

Could he have missed? I didn't see blood. He had a white shirt on. Totally could have missed. He totally could have missed. Or he totally could have shot him twice there. Like it's a full metal jacket round. It's going to make a hole and come out the other side.

If he missed arteries, bones, organs, everything, and it's just a flesh wound and this guy's hyped up, he's not feeling the pain and he's just scared. He seemed terrified to me. Yeah. He did seem terrified. He wasn't complying. I think those two things are related.

It didn't seem like it was a call for a shooting no the other officers seem rather unconcerned too like i get pulled over for a fucking traffic ticket there's like 10 officers show up and they're standing around like ho ho ho if i do anything these guys were kind of like chilling around as the one guy's got a gun on him yeah and i don't quite understand that like that didn't seem de-escalating it didn't seem like they were trying to involve it looked like they were just kind of like casually around the building there i don't fucking know what's going on with that it's a little understanding what the hell just happened there yeah it's hard to say without more information um i will say this like you never know when like he seemed genuinely terrified and like he wasn't armed or in a danger

and i it appeared that that was the case but i I've shown you guys that video of cops in my hometown, that little hometown I was from, and the suspect is just pulled over there at a chicken restaurant, and he's standing there on the sidewalk, and he's cool. He's chill. He's relaxed. He's calm. But he keeps kind of putting his hands in his pockets and around him, and they warn him, warn him, warn him, and then he pulls a gun out of his pocket and shoots them both and i like you never know

although i will say i wouldn't have shot him right like yeah it's a hard job and and and and only the best should be doing it and uh and there's not much more you can say. I wouldn't want that job. I wouldn't wish that job on someone that I feel like you need to be both soldier and lawyer and like negotiator all rolled into one, like, and social worker, like you need to be so good at so many things. And all these times, these guys are making basically minimum wage to do this job. And that's a terrible mixture. This is a lot different. You just showed me one last time I was on your show about the guy that there was a guy in a corridor was like crawling.

Yeah. And that one was really brutal. That one like that one happened kind of in slow motion, you know, and the guy was drunk. And oh, and the kicker with that one was how unclear the cop's instructions were. Right? He was like, he's like, crawl with your hands up. And he'd start crawling on all fours. Hands up, crawl, if I remember right.

And the guy's like, I don't really know this hokey pokey. And they shot him for not following instructions. Yeah, he killed him. They were really hard to follow. I'm trying to find a news article on this, and I'm not having any luck. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's going to get mixed in

with the other dozens of police officer shoots on armed black man links, right? There was one where the police officer went into an apartment and shot the guy because they thought that guy had broken into the apartment, but it was actually his apartment. And that one's getting all the press. I've seen this before.

He came in here, broke in, put pictures of himself and his family everywhere. It's the long con. Sometimes they'll live here for years before they finally hit the spot. They call it paid squatting. He has a long beard.

Sprinkle a little crack on him. No, that's coke. No one's gonna believe that. Oh, sorry. I don't want that. That's not his rent. him no that's coke no one's gonna believe that oh sorry that's what that is rent man i am just one day of waking up way earlier and like doing like some cardio like i'm ready for fucking bed yeah this is gonna be this is gonna be a nice trend like i like Like I'm ready for fucking bed. Yeah.

This is going to be, this is going to be a nice trend. Like I like getting in loops where I go to bed nice and early, wake up nice and early. Like you feel like that first event of the day isn't like a, isn't sprung on you anymore. You feel like, Hey, I've been up for a few hours.

I feel good. He's in the blue right now. Two 24. That's insane, dude. Dude. I, I,

uh, tweeted part of what you uploaded. So it only showed 86 of your 200 or whatever. No, no, no, that's before the show. Oh, that was? None of this is counted. Okay, my bad. Let me delete that so I can get the proper one,

which is even dumber up there. By the way, if anyone wants to Photoshop something together for me, if you've ever seen the movie Catch Me If You Can, on the cover art, like on the DVD cover, you've got Leonardo DiCaprio running sort of right to left, and I believe that Tom Hanks is chasing him. Make a Catch Me If You Can, but I'm Leonardo DiCaprio, and these three are chasing me.

That's a pretty funny Photoshop. I like that. Yeah. Put me way in the back. Crawling. But Taylor, are you going to leapfrog me tomorrow morning uh probably not i won't have time like i i have enough time for like two hours and then i got a boogie i passed you and chiz during the day uh i had hoped that i would see a very pooped kyle who you know was like yeah it might have been a mistake to do one and a half Joe Rogan's best effort the first night.

That's not the Kyle we met, it appears. But Kyle just has an elevated heartbeat. What is your average heart rate on that so far? Or does it not say? I don't know how to tell that. Just wear it for a 24-hour period just for once, just to see what your average is, normal day. Okay, I will. I won't take it off tonight maybe i'll sleep with

it oh my god that would be a really good telling oh my god if i sleep with this bitch on and i earn like 100 reps tonight in in my dreams like if what if what if you saw like a yellow mode in my dream like from a nightmare then you would need to go to a doctor. I'm gonna watch some dark shit before I go to bed. It's nightmare mode. It's training. It's training. This competition would be so much fun if you could just devote a whole month to it. Like just fuck around.

Quit your job! What's the worst that could happen? Fair enough, you know? You know what? You're right. I mean, keep renting West Zone. Quit your job. Don't buy that house. Problem solved. Keep renting. You'd have a lot of time. Don't build any equity. That's a fool's errand. I've been doing that for years.

Yeah. I'm excited to get a house. It's going to be great. Like, finally not having to share a wall with anyone. Like, having your own space. Finally not having to share a wall with anyone. Having your own space. Being able to set it up however you want. Yeah, make as much noise as I want. You can walk upstairs with big, loud elephant feet if you want

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122 beats per minute. Dude, that's not good. We're about to get up to the fucking green mode. Just fucking doing these ads. If I did three in a row, I could go green. That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense at all this is a very different competition

each like it's very good for a competition for the points but like this cannot be a good thing right like that you're at this high of a heart rate just sitting here um good for who good for me absolutely no no i mean, like, health-wise. Health? Look. I don't know what's coming, but it's ridiculous. This just has nothing to do with health. Life is just a game, okay? This is my first account.

There'll be more. There'll be more. Right? This is like that first Fallout character you make, where you're like, I guess I want him to be super strong and be able to carry 800 pounds. Intelligence. Whatever's's go yeah all right i'll get a new one no big deal uh maybe i'll just kill myself come back as someone better right away go for it right no because if you kill yourself you come back as like a roach or worm or something like that like i'd have to save a baby and then immediately accidentally fall into traffic

so that I got enough points that I could come back as Barron Trump's brother. Well, hey, if we go scuba diving or something like that, don't worry. I'll pull your regulator. I know you want it. That's very kind of him. Thank you for that. He just panicked down there. What can I say?

We have footage of you and you pull his regulator out. I'm already on land, sir. That was in international waters. Can't touch me. That's not how it works at all. No, I saw it. I saw it on an old episode of Baywatch. I'm a sovereign citizen.

It's all fine i i will be i will i i am i am under the constraints of maritime law i like i watched a couple of those videos to try and understand the sovereign citizen thing and a guy was like and what you do is they use your their your social security number as a bond to levy against you for other nations and capital, and you are a ship. You are a vessel of the state. They sell you, and so when you get a bill, you just write your social security number on it, and you write paid forward on it, and you will not have to pay a bill. You will not have to ever pay a bill again because if the government gets that, that is a bond on your name.

Your name is worth billions. There's no price on your name and your personhood. And so you leverage that. And I'm intentionally going on like word salad here. But this is what it sounds like. Like watch sovereign citizens talking about how to get away with not paying for things. And it's literally watching a crazy person devolve into madness one of the is a dude like using a marker to be like and over here maritime law like misspells maritime all right it's writing other

things has nothing to do with it it's really entertaining i i watched a judge try to talk to a sovereign citizen and the sovereign citizen kept objecting to the way the judge addressed him. It would be like, yeah, he's like, are you referring to me, the country, right now, or to me, like the person? And he's like, to you. He's like, are you referring to me as a statehood? And it was just a lot of confusion on there and and like i i want to say that i hate to say he won maybe he just frustrated them so much

that they were just like fuck it but he got the best of that situation the way i recall he was he was wearing a weird hat right had all of his like yeah his family was like a clan and i don't mean that in like a like a racist way like like they look like hillbillies or something and it they look like the mcpoils of like west virginia and and he was he walked out of there like a winner the way i recall well we're a family but we're also a series of archipelago nations. Dude, do you know who Tyson Fury is? Yeah. He's probably a lot of people don't.

He's a heavyweight boxer. One of the boxing champions of the world beat a Klitschko, who's one of the best ever. And the guy's literally a gypsy. And he has these issues with depression depression but he's fighting depression to come back and fight Dante Wilder I think and it's a heavyweight fight I'm kind of interested in I thought Dante Wilder was one of the surest things to have ever shared things a few weeks ago and now I don't know I I guess Dante Wilder's not that skilled and Tyson Tyson Fury is, but Dante Wilder's a knockout artist, and Tyson Fury isn't. But at heavyweight, everyone's a knockout artist. What do you think, Kyle? Have you followed this at all?

I don't know anything about boxing. And all joking aside, that will stop me from being too technical about this. But I will say that having listened to to joe rogan talk about um tyson fury and he does know boxing and combat sports he talks about this guy like like he is an uber alpha human being i want to say he's six foot seven probably wrong nine i think i think he's okay seven yeah he's he's a giant human being and yet he's very light on his feet he's very quick he's very skilled he's agile i i've seen him i i want to say he was on the rogan experience like in studio at one point yeah just based on that you gotta go with that guy right he's just a giant nimble guy i i that that's a scary combination, isn't it?

I'm just so uneducated with boxing. I don't know shit. If you saw his opponent and they stood side by side, I think you'd pick his opponent every time. Tyson Fury is dad bod on a good day. And Dante Wilder is a perfect specimen. But that's why they fight the fights yeah we you know you never know you never know uh i don't know if we ever talked about yeah i guess we did talk dc and uh and bait and black beast uh we talked to that fight i believe that um i'm spacing out um ben

askren i think ben askren has a fight scheduled, or at least there were rumors of it and mostly confirmed. Robbie Lawler. Oh, yeah, that's right. Robbie Lawler in January, I want to say. Maybe January 26th. That feels right. That's a fucking fight. I love Robbie Lawler.

He is a goddamn warrior. I'll never forget when he fought the Canadian Psycho or whatever that guy's name is. Rob McDonald? Rory McDonald. Rory McDonald. Rory McDonald. And Rory's nose has been flattened to his face, and it looks like it's gone. It looks like there's a hole where his nose should be, and blood is just coming out of it.

And they're spitting wads of blood out. Both gritty, gritty as can be. And Rory McDonald apparently was winning that fight. If he had survived that fifth round, he would have won on points. And the way he got knocked down, the knockout blow, it wasn't a KO. It was a TKO because he just got punched in the nose for maybe the 30th time in that fight. And this was a good, clean, straight crack. And you just know it shattered his fucking nose.

It was broken already. And his will. It was the pain. It was the pain of that strike that dropped him to the ground. It wasn't like the other night where the Brazilian guy hit like the American. Jacare and Weidman. Yeah, when Jacare hit Weidman in the head and you had this odd flash knockout where he got this,

what didn't look like a haymaker, but it hit him in the temple at a bit of an angle and it fucking turned Weidman off like a light switch. It wasn't that. It was a delayed reaction when Rory took that punch. And you could tell that the delay was between strike and him fully absorbing the pain of what had just happened and he just hit the fucking mat it was it was a hell of a fight did we watch that one in a movie theater we did yeah that was a crazy car connor was on that fucking car that's right yeah that was i i am yeah i drug everyone there if i if i remember it right i i'm glad i went i i remember being excited for it i that was the best ufc viewing experience I've ever experienced. We were in an actual movie theater watching a pay-per-view event

with I'm going to call it 25 other strangers. People were cheering, yelling, but at the appropriate times. They weren't talking over the interviews. It was when strikes were happening and big moves were going down. It was like attending a sports event, really. Except you could see. You could see that that's a really good point the other thing i liked about it was it was like both teams were home

teams there were mendez people there were mcgregor people roller people mcdonald people and and i was kind of pro connor i think that fight and there was someone else who wanted mendez and he shot me a look when connor beat him and i like that you know i'm down for that i it it's neat to have that happen in the it made for a good experience i wish more movie theaters could do that yeah i i i occasionally i'll like like when there was a big event coming up i'll google like can't find anyone else doing it you know like i don't remember which event maybe a few months ago i was like i wonder if i could go watch this in a theater somewhere i'd like i'd love to do that again i can't find anyone else doing it that was sick though it you and i went to that

event in boston one time and i want to say our tickets were 300 400 a piece yeah it was the shittiest ufc Again, Conor was fighting. It was awful. We couldn't see much. The cage obscures a ton. It does. We had really, really good seats. They were the best seats you could buy, I think.

And it was still that shitty of a viewing experience? Terrible. Terrible. Yeah, I would argue that the UFC doesn't lend itself to live events. You know what would fix it, in my opinion, we were discussing this the other night, is if the cage were at the bottom of the floor, and then the seating was above it, stacked up higher and higher, and so everyone's looking down into the cage,

I feel like that would have been better. And I know that's basically what they have now, but more accentuated. Like, I really need to be above this shit. You need a custom place, though, have been better and and i know that's basically what they have now but more accentuated like i really need to be above this shit i need to be custom place though because what they do is they put the octagon in the middle of where the basketball court would be and then it's just flat for really long ways and then if you want to get elevated at all you're really far away and you can watch a basketball game from pretty far away but when it comes to like fighting you really got to get in there yeah we're watching the jumbotron you know like we paid we paid to sit in a hard plastic

chair and deal with an awful crowd and terrible traffic it's what we paid for and in the end it was like i was like well i'm not gonna do that again like the only way i'd go to the event is if i somehow got ringside like like if i, like if I, if I was right fucking there where Joe Rogan is, or maybe in the front row, like right behind him, immediately behind him. But even then I feel like he can't see much. I feel like if, and I've said this about sporting events forever, NFL, MLB, whatever, hockey, hockey was pretty good. You're really close in hockey.

And, and like, there's nothing but a little bit of plexiglass separating you from the player. you're really close in hockey and and like there's nothing but a little bit of plexiglass separating you from the player so so taylor and i went to a hockey game and we had excellent seats and that was worth going to but i've been i've had the best seats that you can buy uh watching the braves before wouldn't do it again i want i watch at home and fucking high definition where where there's dozens of cameras and i'm gonna get to see the fucking strike zone i'm gonna get to see like the i'm gonna get to see the pitcher fucking as close up the pitcher's face and then uh behind the behind him as he throws the ball and the batter hitting it and then they'll follow the fucking ball through the air and i get to see the outfielder running for

it making the catch making the throw and then the fucking call at third. Come on. You can't beat that at the field. There's no way. Are there any post-rolls? There sure are. Just one. We want to remind everybody about Fallout 76. Support for today's show comes from Fallout 76, Bethesda Game Studios, the award-winning creators of Skyrim, and

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