Painkiller Already - Painkiller Already #414

Episode Date: November 30, 2018

On this week's PKA, Boogie2988 is back after significant weightloss and lots of media attention and the guys ask him about his rumored and alleged bedroom escapades, then Boogie shares of a weird story with a fan randomly showing up at his house one evening and then everyone sits around to break down "Pony Play" and how that's weird but enjoying "My Little Pony" is totally cool.

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All right. Oh, Boogie! It's been a hot second. It's been a hot second, huh? We lost Taylor. Oh, we lost Taylor, like, during the ad read? Yeah, I had to fill in for him,

I guess. It's been a hot second, Boogie. Well, I haven't seen Taylor in a hot second either. How you been, man? How you guys been? Good. Surviving the terrible year that is 2018? Has it been bad for you? Oh, God. It's been the worst.

What could have possibly happened? Everything. I came out as a furry. That didn't go well. You're okay with me. For people who say that cameras are messed up right now, hang on. I expect Taylor to come right back.

Yeah, he's just rebooted. His PC crashed. He's rebooting. He'll be right back. Yeah, Boogie, I asked you before the show started because we don't like to ambush people here or anything. Oh, right. Of course.

We're not fucking Barbara Walters over here being cunty. But the most recent thing i'd seen about you or of you um was someone linked me this clip i think you were with mr medicare and uh and i i don't remember the exact context context but basically you said like well yeah i'm a i'm a furry um i like getting pegged oh yeah of course yeah and i'm a homosexual now right and so people would come to me like like and be like, can you believe Boogie's a gay, furry... Pedophile? I think it was one of the things that would be called.

Pedderass. Yeah. And I'd be like... What's a pedderass? It's just a dirty word I made up. No, it's a real word. I don't know the exact definition. I think maybe it's someone who buggers small children.

In any case, I would always defend you. I'd be like, look, I'm not a furry, but I defend furry rights. Okay, number one, even if I was gay, I'm a little bit gay. We've all talked about that. I've kissed dudes and shit. I'm a little bit gay. You know, there's a spectrum of gayness, right? I'm only like 10%. But if I was full on like... gayness, right? I'm only like 10%. Pause right there, please.

Let's imagine this spectrum, this pH scale, if you will, that goes from baking soda to battery acid, battery acid being very gay, and baking soda just being... What kind of scale is this?

Are we going from red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet? On a scale of orange juice to milk. What scale do we use here? I feel like about one to ten. On a scale from Clint Eastwood to Liberace. From Clint Eastwood to Liberace on that scale. Clint Eastwood being as straight as you can be and Liberace being as gay as you can be.

Where is someone who occasionally kisses straight as you can be and Liberace being as gay as you can be. Where is someone who occasionally kisses dudes as you claim to be? Probably in like the rock category. The rock? He'll put on like a skirt every once in a while and like you know, being a kids movie and shit, right? So probably like that level of gay.

Well, you pick your a little kind of gay as the rock. Yeah, he's a little gay, right? Like, he's been, like, in the kids' movies where he dresses up like a fairy and shit or whatever. Like, you know, puts on, like, the tutu and stuff. There's a movie called The Tooth Fairy. And the whole point was that he was a badass tooth fairy who you don't want to fuck with.

Yeah, but that's not what I'm saying. I'm like, I think I'm mostly masculine, but I'm only a little bit like i've kissed a couple dudes whatever at no point did i ever see the rock jump in the ring with brett michaels and be like can you smell and taste would you think less of the rock if he like turned out it's like yeah sometimes i fuck dudes like would that make it less of him no would it make him less manly to you uh less less straight because that's what we're talking about let me ask you a really serious question is there anything more manly than a dude fucking another dude that's the manliest thing there is it's just two men going at it that's so manly i have i've heard this line of thinking before it makes sense

yeah there's a lot of logic in that right? If you're fucking girls, what could be more faggy than that, right? They're soft and squishy and weak, right? What's hard about fucking women? Nothing. Nothing. Again, we're not talking about manliness. We're talking about straightness. We're talking about masculinity.

It's you and your logic. To answer your question, I knew the audience I was going in front of that was the kill report that i was on that night and the kill report like constantly trolls me ralph fucking hates me those guys fucking hate me over there so uh when i went on there that night talking about that whole better help shit um i was just giving them ammo i was just giving them something to play with right because i mean they they perpetrate like all the othernomers, like that my ex-wife left me for my gay black friend or something, like, and that I got cucked and all these other, like, you know, I mean, like, the memes, you know, the stuff that's not actually true about me, but people pretend is true. And so I was like, well, all right, I'll tell my furry.

I'll tell them I like to get pegged. I'll tell, I don't know, I'll just say some stupid shit, and that'll be the new thing that people say. Well, unfortunately, can I ask this question kyle boogie yeah if you had to have sex with men name your top three oh i'd like to know about your type clearly the rock i think the rock would definitely be in there yeah i already got that yeah we could tell your admiration so i should probably find somebody who's not just all, like, muscularly and, like, super sexy. But for The Rock, it's mostly personality, right? Like, he's a good-looking dude. You like his smile?

Yeah, I think it's a line, like, eye thing or whatever. I think then Ben Folds, I think he's very talented. He's kind of nerdy and geeky, and I feel like he'd give her, like, a really good hand job. I feel like, you know, like, I don't don't i don't want any of these guys inside me i think i would want to be inside them i'm pretty sure i'm up what about ian mckellen because i feel like you could be behind him enjoying yourself and he could just regale you with some amazing industry stories he could he could talk about his friendship with patrick stewart and like what it was like working on the x-men film. See, he's a little old for me, but I would let Patrick Stewart blow me.

I think Patrick Stewart's very straight. Although that's not a qualifier for this list. Right, yeah, this is who I would have sex with. I don't have to be gay, right? Is Ian McKellen going to be there in the corner helping himself? Narrating it, yeah, right. Oh, shit, no.

Dude, if you got Patrick Stewart there, you don't need Ian McKellen. He can't narrate it with his mouth full. So I was chatting to the people watching. So we got The Rock, Patrick Stewart, and was there another one I missed? Ben Foltz. Oh, yeah, Ben Foltz. I don't know him.

But I didn't say – he's the one who volunteered Patrick Stewart. I did not pick Patrick Stewart. Okay. Jon Hamm. That would be my third. Oh, yeah, the Mad Men dude. He's so good looking, so funny. He's just great sense of humor. Okay. Jon Hamm. That would be my third. Oh, yeah. The Mad Men dude. So good looking.

So funny. He's just great sense of humor. And I don't know. I mean, I just like to spend some time with him. I also would put Tom Hanks in there. And I don't think Tom Hanks would be into me. But Tom Hanks, like, have you ever seen Philadelphia? Yes. I would suck Tom Hanks off just for starring in Philadelphia.

So, age Tom Hanks. Not his best look. Yeah. Yeah. Most people. Have you ever seen Tom Hanks, like like at his lowest in the castaway oh i'd suck him off well okay the castaway was another one of those movies that got me so emotionally like if i ever met tom hanks and tom hanks is like would you suck my dick i'd be like yeah of course whatever man you're tom hanks like you're one of the nicest guys let me blow you i don't give a

shit like is that a problem to suck a dick occasionally because you really enjoy somebody's movies that makes me a little bit gay it's just as for the as for the furry thing i do not own a fursuit i do not have a fursona um could afford one frankly i mean that'd be an enormous suit that'd be a huge well it's a lot smaller these days but still it'd be a 5x these days yeah um and then the other thing is i i've always been accused of it because my name on everquest was uber wolf exactly and everybody so that was the other thing i'm just gonna roll into roll with the punches right oh that's why they think you're furry right that's part of why it seems believable is because his persona has been uber wolf this whole time even when he joined you know when i see a screen name on anything it's uber wolf and i'm like that makes perfect sense he's been role-playing fantasy you

know when you're online you're sort of role-playing in some yes to some extent so he's always a blue wolf i've always leaned into this shit too like if you go back and look at like they used to call me a brony when that was a thing so i made a video pretending that francis is a brony i i i think todd howard really did this really well at e3 this year lean into the meme lean into the meme let them have it right it's not true it's all made up bullshit pretend my wife cucked me pretend she screwed some black stud pretend i'm a brony pretend whatever let them have it right like it gives them some sort of nothing wrong with being a brony either that's a 180 we went in so hard on the no no no i'm sorry way i have to correct you it's the bronies are a-okay with me it's the cloppers that are the the weird ones those are the ones

who sexualize other my little yeah that's pretty fucked up yeah those are the ones who put like pocket pussies inside of the rear of a my little pony doll so it's got like this little it's got like a vagina in the back hey if you want to fuck an anthropomorphic doll made for children little girls rather you go for it because that's freedom kyle this is america i mean you want to fuck things that are tacitly reminiscent of pedophilia yeah go for it i can't shame in nothing until you harm another person and then i'm not into it. But if you want to fuck a pink fleshlight strapped into a child's toy, I don't give a shit.

Go for it. That's fine. If you fuck a child, I'll break your dick. Up to that point. Oh no, I'll fucking cut it off with a hammer. I'll smash it with a hammer. Cut it off with a hammer. That's going to take some time. That's going to take some time, but it's worth it. Boogie's willing to put in the hours to castrate pedophiles.

How young is too young, Boogie? Do what? How young is too young, Boogie? Got to know. So that's interesting because I've gone out with a few girls who are kind of young, 20-year-olds since the divorce, so it's been nice. But I think too young is age of consent. I think if they're not in the age of consent in at least your region, you're definitely breaking the law, and that alone is punishable. But I honestly – I can't imagine wanting –

So you let lawmakers determine your morality? See, I think that's wrong. I think you need to make a decision on your own. That's fascism. Let me take another step. Dating a 20-year-old, going out – even let me take another step dating a 20 year old going out we even just going out one time with a 20 year old is hard enough i can't imagine a fucking 18 year old and i think the age of consent in arkansas might might actually be less than 18

i know in some state it's 16 what the fuck do you have in common with a 16 year old if you're in your 20s or your 30s god bless your 40s a 20 year old girl is hard enough to date because they only know three things and they're wrong about all three of them go on they don't know what the fuck they're talking about there's this one girl i was seeing oh you didn't have the three things pre-selected i thought you did no first let's dive into automotive repair there's one girl she came to me and she's like she's like i keep getting hit with overdraft fees on my bank account and i'm like then turn off overdraft protection on that bank account and they won't have to pay the fees and she's like you can't do that i'm like no they have to

let you do that let me show you she's no bank of america will not let you do that i'm like no they absolutely will let me show you i googled it on my phone i brought it up all you gotta do is tell them it's a state it's a federal law They have to let you turn off overdraft protection. She's like, yes, but what if I need to overdraft? And I'm like, then don't. I'm on her team with this because overdraft fees are much cheaper than non-sufficient

fund fees. No, there's 45 fucking bucks for her overdraft fees. She was getting hit and she got hit with 10 of them. So it's 450 bucks which she was only earning like 1800 a month i would have to be like how about this how about a little personal responsibility and like like maybe you just balance your checkbook right well that's the argument she's like sometimes i have to spend money i don't have so i have to write bad checks

that's what a credit card's for i have to write i'm also looking to buy a home soon how many years old are you like none of the things you're saying makes sense and she wasn't unintelligent she had intelligence she just didn't have life experience but if you scrolled through her purchasing history and her bank account statement like there's no way you're going to be like, well, yeah, she was buying milk, flour, and vitamins to make energy balls. She was being very efficient with her meals there. No, it's all like dildos off Amazon. No, this is a $60 horse dildo.

You needed that Qdoba burrito with double meat that we both know you probably didn't finish, and you needed guac in it. Like, nah. I'm sitting here thinking, does that teach Hope about overdraft fees? I don't think so. I think I just buy all her shit for her. I'm sitting here thinking, does that teach Hope about overdraft fees? I don't think so. I think I just buy all her shit for her.

I'm failing as a parent. You're only failing if a parent, if Hope does have to worry about overdraft fees. I don't know. No, that's a much more positive way to pay. So the point that I'm making is, if I could date a 16-year-old girl, I don't think I'd be very physically attracted

to a 16-year-old girl, but let's imagine I found a really hot 16-year-old girl, I don't think I'd be very physically attracted to a 16-year-old girl, but let's imagine I found a really hot 16-year-old girl. I couldn't fucking talk to her. What the fuck are we going to talk about? What it's like to argue with your mom? What do we have in common? Jesus Christ. Yeah, but they'd be so young that they would immediately adopt whatever your beliefs were.

They'd be like, I hate that. Video games are dumb. And for man children, you'd be like, not at all. I've actually made a career from it. She'd be like, you know what? I hadn't hate that. You know, video games are dumb. And for man children, you'd be like, not at all. I've actually made a career from it. She'd be like, you know what? I hadn't considered that. You're right. Immediately, you'd have her on your side with everything. It'd be easy as fuck.

You'd be like a little, you know, and I'm also a little put off by your statement, just wait for the age of consent. Because you know who else believed that? Adolf Hitler. Oh, yeah. It's fine. You just wait until age of consent. In in eight years boogie 2988 will back me up it's so 2018 in this podcast holy shit this year man this is the year of got you it started

with like me too which was great i was all into like me too me too the fuck out of everybody right but then like it's all like just got you everything everything is a little rapey in the wrong context so you want to meet Too the fuck out of everyone? No, I'm saying, like, if there are fucking actual sexual predators out there, fuck them. Take them down. Like, hashtag Me Too. They'd like that.

Right? Like, when a guy like Spacey gets beat. No, no, don't go down on them. Don't go down on them. Take them down. It's different. Oh, fuck them. Go down on them if there are sexual predators out there.

Like, oh, that'll teach them. Like, now we're getting, like, fucking H3 for it. I saw a video about Ethan from H3 in his podcast. I'm going to suck your dick until you stop fucking kids. That's what I'm imagining. You're like, that's a new thing that Fortan needs to start. It's like, hey, save a child, go down on a pedophile. You know, every orgasm you give a pedophile is a child's safety.

There's some real logic to that, holy shit. The only thing you think about when you see this country, go down on a pedophile. Yeah. Oh, you're too good to suck a rapist's dick? Holy shit. You'd be on your knees, thinking about all the painful bloody strokes you were saving a young child's run this podcast never fails to offend me and i'm so oh i'm not like this all day like no it's just when we come on here

dude regular life tailor is a way better person than once a week dude was a shitty painter can we at least say that Adolf? you could have shown the person who turned him down from art school what would happen

they would have let him in for sure. Depends on that person's views on Jewish people. I don't... Is it a bit boring? I don't want to shit talk Hitler, but he was a shitty painter. I don't want to say anything bad about Hitler, but... Yeah, we would never.

He was a shitty painter. The current climate with so many fans. Yeah. I lost my train of thought uh anyway i'm not a furry but i will fuck a girl with cat ears on so and a any animal butt plug those are fun those are hot you ever do that for you like where does the limit hit where you're like that's that's too much i'm not into that amount of animal like the little cat ears that's not too much cat ears fine animal butt plug fine uh how about together belt fine what a little fur i don't know if they have ears and the butt plug

together still oh that's great yeah i'm all down for that gloves they covered those that's still not much animal gloves or animal footies probably crosses the line, and a full fursuit is well across the line. I'm not into that. Boogie, it doesn't matter if you're into it. Not everything you do is going to be your favorite thing to do. I try to educate our audience on that. If it's her thing, maybe that's what you need to provide for her. So that has been my role.

Is that the advice that you give to a young woman coming of age? Not everything you're going to do sexually is going to be your favorite thing, honey. But get out there. Sometimes you have to suck a petal on a stick to save a kid, you know? Oh, Jesus. Oh, you're too good, sweetie. I will say, even to this day, even though I've got money in the bank, even though I'm nowhere near as fat, as gross as I used to be. And it's a lot easier to get laid. Uh, I still employ a very important role. If a girl wants me to try something or do something, I will try it. I will do it. So I have done some pretty

messed up stuff. I've eaten ass, which I did not like. Um, and I I'll do it. You know, try it at least once. I did blood play once that was really messed up a girl. She was into like cutting me and she wanted to play in my blood, so I let her do that. That was a long time ago. That one's not for me. That's just... Look, it's rare that I say this.

That one's not for me either. I've talked about that before, like being in a hotel with a girl and her having this box cutter type knife and wanting me to cut her and being like, no, no, no,

no. Taking that, putting that in the, in the nightstand, closing the nightstand with my pistol in there as well. Being like, this is the danger drawer. If you go for this drawer,

I'll know it's on. And it's time to start fucking throwing punches. All right. This stays shut. Like, no, no blood. I did.

I did cross the line, uh, a few months back actually this is a girl who she's like she wanted a little rough and i'm not really into rough play but that's what she wanted she wanted to mess around a little rough and so i slapped her you know once just to see how it felt and slapped her on the ass spanked her a couple times that was kind of nice and some point she's like choke me and i'm like i'll pseudo choke you like i'll put my hand there but i'm not like gonna hurt her and then like afterwards she's like i wanted you to really choke me i wanted you to like bruise me and i'm like i do youtube for a living i don't want you going to the cops with bruises after you've been in my show on the videotape

like you know you wanted evidence is that what you wanted like wanted. There's not a chance. Maybe if I get to really know you and we're together for a really long time, sure. Is this like a first date? We'd messed around a few times at that point. Choke me unconscious, please, and finish. We're still at the restaurant. Choke me

until there's bruises on me and then leave DNA all over me, please. Sir, would you like some more cheese biscuits and some smelling salts for your date? Baby, I'm choking this bitch. Would you guys say no to choking? Oh, I'm all about the choking. I don't have particularly strong hands. I'm not one of those guys.

I've been watching that guy on YouTube who rolls frying pans into a tank. Yeah, I was watching that channel last night. It's incredible, right? He crushes frying pans with these big mitts he has. But I can choke a girl unconscious because I've done it many times with just my hands. Like, if she's riding me, I'll slowly apply more and more pressure. Like, you don't want to bruise. Like, if you're choking an enemy or something, you'll bruise.

But if you just slowly apply enough pressure to make her go sort of unconscious, it's a lot of fun for her. I've done it a ton with my guy friends. Like in high school, we used to do this thing where we'd choke each other. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how you did it,

but we'd hyperventilate. I don't even know if that's important. And then you stand up against the wall and you put your two palms against his carotid, I think. And you just hold that, and he'll pass right out. It doesn't take long. It's the same thing a rear naked choke does.

But I have never choked, but that's totally a service I'd provide. Yeah. Yeah, I'm definitely done. It's not my thing. I don't get off choking. But if anyone likes that, I'll do it. Like I said, I will choke, but not up to the point that I'm definitely... It's not my thing. Like, I don't get off choking. But if a girl likes that, I'll do it. Like, I don't really care. Like I said, I will choke,

but not up to the point that I'm doing any damage. I don't want damage. I don't want to leave bruises. That seems messed up to me. You can definitely make them pass out without bruises. You just got to press in the right spots. That's why I only spank my girl with a phone book. You could...

Bag of oranges! That was actually a sack full of oranges the first time a girl asked me to choke her was college and I didn't know what I was doing so I just put my thumb I was like oh she wants to get hurt I put my thumb on her fucking trachea which it did hurt

it wasn't what she wanted I like to hurt and you give her one of those like mo like you poke her like in both eyes. Ow, fuck. You're not into BDSM? I'm in the eye poking community. Fuck you, sand.

I like it when it hurts. You like give her a Brazilian wax. I'm curious, Boogie, like you talked about the blood play thing. I'm so not familiar with that. What does that mean? Like she like cut you or wanted you to cut her and then she would basically interrupt on herself or like cut me on her she cut me on the back and then she basically drew my name on my back in my blood that's a lot of blood

yeah and then she just kind of like played in the blood a little bit she had it on her hands and it was sticky and i kind of like turned her on a little bit and then we fucked and that was it. No, no. I got to say, look, if a chick wanted both of us to dress up in blue furry suits, I'd be down. If she wanted me to like, I don't know what I don't know how to say this. Anything virtually like I'll eat her ass and she can eat my ass and and we can beat each other up and we can choke each other unconscious and we can whip each other with belts but the moment someone wants to cut my back open write my name in blood and then get a little sticky with my blood i feel things have gone too far and i am afraid i'm not only am I turned off but I'm a little

afraid that this is just some sort of a ruse for me to allow her to get behind me with a blade yeah well I can get that well I had already been dating that girl for like six months before that ever came up you'd have to know

you'd have to have that on the back burner for six months and was like so Boogie there's another thing I'm into. And I know that now that we're close, you won't outright say no. I want to play with your blood and cut you and write your name on the back, on your back. This is the girl who wanted to feed me to death, if you remember. That's also the feeder. She's the one who wanted to feed me to death. Oh, okay.

How long ago was this? I'm not even familiar with that. That was like 2006, 2007, yeah. Oh, okay. So you had a legit feeder girlfriend? She's like, oh, this is my wife. Yeah, yeah. I've talked about it quite a bit. I don't want to bore anybody who's already heard it. But she basically, I was already a big dude and I was like desperate and lonely. And she reached out to me on MySpace back in the day.

And she's like, look, I've been looking for a guy your size. How do you feel about getting bigger? I'm like, I don't know. Are you paying for the food? Like, that's expensive shit, right? And she's like, look, you're already eating. You may as well get the shit fucked out of you at the same time and i'm like you are correct ma'am so we like got together i went down to memphis and like we got to know each other we got for a few meals and then went back to her place you know after three or four dates then the sex was pretty good so i kept going down to memphis and she kept feeding me. And like Thanksgiving is one of my favorite stories with her.

Like she fixed an entire Thanksgiving dinner for me. This is 2006 Thanksgiving, I guess. It's odd because it was the second week of March. And I ate like the whole fucking thing in front of her. And then like afterwards she made herself into dessert. So she like put Oreo cookies in the shape of an arrow pointing to her vagina. And she filled herself with, like, maraschino cherries and had me, like, eat them out of her vagina. That's how you get a yeast infection. Yes, that's what I told her.

I'm like, do not put sugared fucking treats in your vagina. Like, I'm going to do it because they're in there, and I may as well, but. Yeah, we're here already, but I'm not doing it tomorrow. Yeah. And then at some point before Christmas, she's like, you've got like a zit on your back. Can I pop your zit? I'm like, sure.

She's like, it's plain in the blood. And she's like, I wish you bled more. I'm like, well, keep going. Oh, God. Oh, God. She goes and gets like a little razor blade, and she just cuts me back there. All right.

So she pops a zit on your back. That's how it started. That got her in the mood. That's what got her in the blood mood, yep. She didn't do anything weird with the puss, did she? Nah, not that I know of. She was behind me. I mean, for all I know, she shoved it over pussy. I don't know.

Yeah. It was happening, and she was feeding you. Was it like, you know, this is better than the alternative, or was part of you thinking, like, this bitch is actively working to kill me right now? I was really into it at first because like she would feed me lemon bars while she was on top of me like that was a pretty good deal you know uh and then for the longest time eventually i'm like you know what i want to die so i don't really care and

it's nice to have someone in your life who's gonna fuck you while you get fat and gross and like you know i don't care if i die i'm excited to die i look forward to dying so this is all win win win food plus die plus sex equals everything is perfect right and then like i ended up getting sick with uh like one of those routine leg infections i got my lymphedema and i i told her i'm like i gotta go to the doctor and she's like you're just looking for an excuse not to eat you're faking this and i'm like how am i faking a giant topical leg infection do you see the redness do you see the streaks of infection she's like you did that on purpose i'm like how did the how do i get myself infection on purpose what do you think i'm doing like rubbing bacon on a wound like what the fuck

that's real deal abuse it almost sounds like you didn't fill out your end of the deal by dying right yeah well that i mean that was the deal she wanted me to be like a thousand twelve hundred pounds by the time i got there you know boogie not everything you do is going to be your favorite thing you should have died right died for her that was her kick you need to gain 600 pounds and die she's like you're fucking crazy i'm done with you i'm like i'm the crazy one you're the one who talks to like a spirit is she yeah she was really crazy it was a pretty crazy girl what was the spirit thing she okay so at first i thought she was joking but she said she had like a spirit guide and it would come to her and talk to her all the time and the reason i thought she was joking is because she said it was the ghost of the fattest man that ever lived according to the the you know guinness book of world records

that guy i forget his name and i'm like oh that's super funny she's like yeah he told me this he told me we were meant to be together i'm like that's funny but no she wasn't joking and like towards the end i began to realize she's like he told me i shouldn't be with him like who and she's like he he said you'll never be as big as he was i'm like who are you talking about my spirit guide i'm like what you have like a fucking legend of zelda navi that like tells you what to do not only that but an insulting fictional spirit where it's like this guy boogie yeah he's way fatter than you and he frankly thinks you're a loser and you're never gonna make it yeah no shit so you have a good like insight into the psychology of a feeder unlike any of us obviously like do you think it's more of a sexual fetish or like a power thing where they like

for her specifically it was very much a controlling power thing she wanted me bedridden she wanted full control she wanted to be able to do whatever she wanted to do and apparently the sex would have eventually stopped because she's like well eventually one day you'll be too big to even have sex with anyway. I was going to ask this. Is this kind of like, you know, the movie Misery? Like, was this only like was phase one recruiting you? Phase two is feeding you. And maybe there's a phase three where you're bedridden.

And now she's like, now we can really have some blood play. Right. Yeah. Like now you're like unable to resist the stuff i really have been wanting to do with you i've actually been wanting to cut your ears off for so long could have been could have easily been oh that's so terrifying bookie it's a fetish that that literally like slowly paralyzes you and like it's like she's there to like sap your energy and life for she's

a succubus i was just gonna say that's that's not even let's not even call this a sexual fetish the feeder thing that's not a sexual fetish that's like assisted murder oh that's just kink shaming taylor that's kink shaming taylor that's kink shaming we don't do kink shaming on this show my thing is i like to spank you and tie you up and then after that we're going to spend 15 years getting you fat until you die. No, that's

duplicitous and manipulative. The kind of person who would be into that and take advantage of someone, first of all, who's in a very vulnerable state, that's not just a fetish. That's a predatory thing. I think it's a fetish. What are we all supposed to take like like some sort of fill out some sort of form and get analyzed by a therapist before we engage in any sort of relationship there's always power imbalances one person wanting one thing the other wanting another and you find some sort of a

an agreement between the two of you some sort of symbiotic relationship where you're each getting what you want regardless of how you go about doing it, right? That's relationships in general. They're trying to manipulate it basically into a unilateral thing where they are the grand poobah, the king, and they dictate everything. Well, she was pretty clear

about her intentions when they got together. Now, the fact that he was obviously mentally ill or definitely leaning toward that, toward mental illness at that point in his life is a bit predatory because but you could make the argument that there are perfectly healthy men who are like our size you know who are a 200 pound guy who's like yeah i really get off when a lady feeds me so i don't think you can just paint the entire feeder

yeah and i and i would shame on. I think my situation was not good. I don't think I was a good candidate for what that girl wanted. And I think what that girl wanted was not a natural, normal, healthy thing. I think there's some guys out there who just want to make a girl a little healthy and make her nice and chunky and make her nice and fat. You know, like probably not to the point of disabling them, probably not to the point of killing them, which is, I think, the eventual goal that she had. But I don't think every feeder is that. I think some just get off on food and i think some feedies people getting fed they just get off on eating and fucking you know oh that's definitely true like not all like even if a fetish is by nature damaging to a body and leading to death doesn't

mean that it's by design like that like they might have been interested in what you were just saying where they want to plump up their girlfriend but like when i think about the feeder thing it always comes back i think it was my 600 pound life or one of those documentaries where it shows this morbidly obese like hyper obese woman who can't leave her bed and her husband is every day like he has like therapists barking in his ear like you can't do that you can You can't bring her that. She can't even get up to get food. We know you're bringing her stuff. And then it'd be like footage every night of her, like sitting there with a bunch of boilers and like crock pots and things on

the bed with her. And then a big thing of KFC. And he's just like, well, you know, she said she was hungry. And so I had to go out and spend $45 at KFC. And it's like,

no dude, you know what you're doing. You've got all these experts screaming in your ear, your wife will die. Your wife will die, and that little son you have running around will not have a mother. And you don't care. Like, you like the control you have.

It's, I don't know. Like, I always think of that dude when I think of the feeder thing, and it's fucked. That's, I will tell you, actually, that's the most hurtful theory. Like, of all the, like, little fan theories people have about my ex-wife and stuff that's probably the one that like pisses me off a little bit is that my ex-wife was only with me for the money and that she was hoping i would die and she left after surgery because

i wasn't going to die on her so she decided to cash out early and shit like that oh man like that's one that really bothers me because they think she's one of those people listening would really hurt you deep inside. I follow the same pattern once in a while. And see how this works out for you. Oh, it's self-destructive. I know how it's self-destructive. It's same like going on the kill report and saying I'm a furry.

It's self-destructive. It's all self-destructive. I'm wearing my Andy Kaufman shirt for a reason, though, man. Like this is my favorite shirt right now for a reason, because I love fucking with people right now. I watched part of that kill stream that you were on, a lot of it, and it is, you know the clip of Bill Burr when he goes to Philly, and he's like, all you fucking Philly assholes with your nonsense and your two bridge having town and your bullshit eagles, and starts off with an 11-minute rant at a stand-up festival 12 12 years ago and boo all of philly was booing him and by the end every act in front of him too so he just

came in with an he came in aggressive and by the end the philly people were like we respect this guy we like him like he's fun and they were cheering that's what i saw when you were on the kill stream because in the beginning people were all coming at you and by the end even medicare i think if i recall was like where the hell is this boogie i love this boogie and you had to be like yeah well this is kind of who i am i'm not like my channel is a channel like like anything else like i i put on a show like i'm being entertaining there and you know this darker more lewd side of me is still there the whole time what's so crazy about it is there's like the the little subset of like a couple thousand people like whose hobby sometimes i feel like it's a career like they must

not work because they're putting a lot of time into it um but like their hobby or like their career is like trying to like follow me and like discredit me and shit like that all you have to do is listen to a single pka and i've been on 10 now listen to a single pk like oh we're gonna prove you're not the mr rogers of youtube i literally talked about eating ass on every pka i've talked about banging porn stars and on every pk i don't like and there's nothing secret about any of this stuff i'm open about it and like i don't know who are you gonna show it to that doesn't already know it who does exactly exactly and that's never our intent by the way is to to get a got you moment on you or anything like that. No, of course not. I volunteer it. I openly volunteer it.

I feel like everybody is really similar. We act like everybody's so different. Everybody has these different levels of morality. But when you get down to it, what I've always found is when I meet someone in person and we have a one-on-one or three or four of us chilling in our living room, everybody's kind of on the same level with this whole morality thing i you don't find too many of those people who are who are so on one side that they're like oh goodness my tongue on a butthole right right yeah never never like you don't find that in the wild what you find is a bunch of people who everybody likes you know like like drinking and fucking and having a good time and getting a good laugh out of a dirty joke and and this whole like this culture of people who like feed off of being offended or pretending that

they're offended it's kind of a faux culture in general it's it's not a real thing i i've found i will tell you what is so funny to me is like when it comes to the whole conservative versus like democrats thing right like for the longest time it was the democrats that feigned outrage right as the libtards is the damn libtards that feign outrage but then once the conservatives the folks that post on the donald found out that they could do that that they could take down james gunn if they feign outrage too they're doing it just as much right it's like it's it's you know it's the same thing with the left the left genuinely they condemn fascism of all type except the kind of fascism

that will win they're they're fine with antifa right they're fine with antifa you know and i get it antifa agrees with their politics so it's fine right i don't agree with antifa i don't agree with any violence i don't agree with any uh uncivility i don't i'm never't agree with Antifa. I don't agree with any violence. I don't agree with any uncivility. I don't I'm never going to agree with any of that kind of shit. Right. We have to be civil. The entire point of this great American experiment was to coexist. Right. And I get it. I get it. Except for with the American savages. We had no interest in coexisting. No. Right. And I mean, like the people who wrote the original document. They're savage Americans, Kyle. Jesus, you jerk. I'm sorry. I misappropriated them again.

Savage Americans? Holy shit. That's an offensive statement. Exactly. I decided that Native American isn't accurate. I'm a Native American. Where do you think I was fucking born? I didn't immigrate here. I'm a Native American. Indian is frankly offensive and ignorant simultaneously because they're certainly not from the country of India on the other side of the fucking globe.

I can only imagine where you fall on Native American Indian. What they are is savage Americans. Canadian natives are known as First Nations. And I've been told recently that that is what they're trying to get as the moniker in the United States as well. So First Nations. Well, not if we're in charge. Well, I don't know how they can— That's going to be funny to watch the little infighting between—because, like, people here, like, we're just like, yeah, it's the Native Americans.

It's all just kind of one amorphous group of people. When really it's like, no, there were hundreds of tribes who fucking hated each other here. What are they going to do? Be like, all right, the Shoshone, you are the first people. And then the Iroquois are like, what? Are you kidding me? They came in and stole our land and murdered us. Like, but you get to be first people too.

No, I demand we get first people. They get second people. Well, we also killed the Blackfeet when we came in. Yeah, it's silly to try and group that many diverse people as one band. To be honest, the correct terminology, I think, would be American Aboriginal peoples, right? Native Americans are already easy. Native Americans is easy, but it's not fair because I'm a Native American. It makes about as much sense as when they call Idris Elba African-American, when the man's English.

All right? Dude, if we start calling Indians or Savage Americans Native Americans, then I'm going to have to redo all my college applications. They do have hot cheapo. They make some of those degrees if they find out that you're not a Cherokee Indian. That's how I got it. My dad is like one-eighth. I guess it's his grandmother that was pure-blood Cherokee, right? Which should have put me on the list to get free shit when I was born.

But my grandmother was quite aware of the Japanese internment camps. So when they came by and said, look, if you want your kids to get free shit, you have to register as a Native American. She's like, fuck you. You're not getting my fucking name. Suck my dick. Fuck you.

You're not going to put me in a fucking camp. Wow. So she went straight up. She's pretty passionate about that. Yeah, she's pretty passionate. Your grandma's pretty cool. This would be my great-grandmother, I guess. Okay.

Anytime someone tells the government, fuck you, you're not getting my info, I'm on their team. I just really laid down some bad words there. Can we get her on the show? I think she's pretty dead. But apparently she refused and was pretty adamant about refusing because she didn't want to be put into an internment camp at some fucking point. So we didn't get any of the free benefits or whatever. But what is interesting about that is I finally did one of those like ancestry DNA kits or whatever.

I'm 0% Native American, I guess. So my dad ain't my dad. And I didn't get to find out till they were both dead. But wait, no, it's just as possible. Like Elizabeth Warren thought she was like a 16th or something. Right. And it turned out that that was kind of like family wives tale that that wasn't on target right that could be just as true with you

1024th or something oh and what she actually was one one thousand one 512th and one 1024th or something like that here's the truth that so they said that she was somewhere between a 64th and a 1024th and the like memes just ran with the 1024th even though like like didn't the leader of like the cherokee nation speak out and like condemn the whole thing of her using it as a political yeah they made a pr statement where they're like we do not consider miss warren part of our nation. We are a proud people here. And this white bitch is not getting it. That's what he actually said. Look it up.

I don't think so. He sounds exactly like that. Yeah, Chief Longcock. He's great. Just a total alpha. What's funny is when you look at like, and this isn't all of them, and I really liked it in The Sopranos when they show this when you when you see like the leader of the monks i think the mung or something like that it's a tribe up in jersey or new york or in that area but like

they finally get to meet the head monk or whatever the leader of the tribe he's white dude just just white as can be wearing a fucking suit you know like like got a nice haircut and everything good looking like blue eyes and shit he's like he's the leader of the monks he's like yeah ed rap a hoe i'm one one millionth monk and i'm the leader of the tribe and the owner of the tribal casino it's just like yeah yeah everybody at this point except for just a few really disadvantaged people who who actually were were terrorized and marginalized and suffered brutal shit at the hands of our government out west are pretty much white people claiming to be Indians

to get the benefits that come along with that. But out west, it's different. I've been out in New Mexico, like out in the rough part of New Mexico, and seen people who look, they're like, oh yeah, that guy's totally a savage American. You can tell by looking at him.

And they have it rough. Do you know that guy with the tear in the commercial? Yeah, not even. That guy was Mexican. We covered that. Taylor, you're catching up to me on repeats. Oh, I'm sorry.

I went to Oklahoma and saw the same thing Kyle did like you know the genuine savage Americans living in the savage American community and I think that part of it is a little bit like you know like any disadvantaged race in America is suffering within that it's almost like a, I don't know, a legacy of lack of success that they get from their parents and their grandparents. And they just don't have the same, like, I don't know, legacy of success that like, this sounds really racist, that like Jewish people have. Where their parents are like, hey, you know what? Get a good grade. Get one of these high paying careers. And then teach your kids to do the same.

You know, also do well in school. Also get good jobs. And that's our expectation of you. Whereas in Oklahoma, for example, these Native American Indians, I think that part of it is they're just in an environment where they're not – that's not demanded of them or just presented as an option. There's a really successful chief in Oklahoma sitting Bullberg.

I don't get it. I'm trying to. Bullberg? Sitting Crowstein. Oh, yes. Thank you, Kyle. My pattern recognition kicked in on the second one. You got it. See, I fixed what you were saying.

It's a couple of things. I think what you were saying. It's a couple of things, right? I think what you're saying is accurate, but the reason for it is systemic, okay? So what I'm suggesting is, yes, there's not that environment that promotes success, and there's not that sort of hereditary success, but I think that that in

some ways has been forced upon them by the reservation system, right? And I'm speaking specifically about the ones that are on reservations and have you know they they lived off of that horrible government food that we would give them that was basically like fried bread and government processed cheeses and tons of alcohol and they are they genetically don't do very well with alcohol and so we immediately like make them very unhealthy as a people right like we literally do like like like tons of heart disease probably like intentional by design it was just the cheapest

shit it was just the cheapest shit like like at the time when we started feeding that stuff like we know it makes more sense than the slow poison one yeah it was just it was whatever was cheapest was being was being shipped out to these reservations and that's what we're putting them on but then like if you look at the educational system on the reservation right like you had a really nice school in oceanside like like i'm jealous when i hear about the stuff that you had access to like yeah like oh yeah ocean city like we had a tennis court we had a we had track and field football baseball soccer all that shit but you guys were next level like like and i feel like the way that i look at

the opportunities that you had at your high school it pales in comparison to how someone who grew up on some arapaho reservation out west looks at my high school he's like you had water like yeah we didn't have to bring our own water to school oh you could not drink the water in school for people that haven't heard about my high school, real quick, high school was funded by real estate taxes. It was a resort town, so most of the homes were empty in the winter. They were just summer homes.

The ratio of money to people that lived there was really nice. That actually makes a lot of sense. Not a lot of vacation homes out on the reservation. Yeah, I get that. Yeah.

So as much as we mock them because it's funny, incredibly disadvantaged group of people because of half a dozen factors, not the least of which is things the U.S. government did to them. How many Native Americans are there left right now? I know that try and find a white girl on any college campus in America who doesn't claim at least partial Native American

ancestry, and I'll give you a million dollars, because you won't find it. Every white girl in America. If I ask her on campus, she will. Right. Actually, I'm from 16th Sioux, so fuck you, and you can't prove me wrong. I'm so pale, you can't see my scars you think i'm

native american indian that's true yeah the red hair probably screws her yeah but i will say actually i met a uh a girl who claimed to be i guess first nation nations what she says i'm like are you canadian i don't know but um but i met a girl she and uh she's like well i'm only she looked the part she looked exactly the part um and then i like, well, I'm only, she looked the part. She looked exactly the part. And I'm like, well, what is your nationality exactly? She goes, well, I'm partially First Nations, but she's also, she's like, I might, there's also some black in me and some, I forget what else she said. But she was, yeah, even though she looked almost perfectly like a Native American, she wasn't. Interesting.

It was clearly the largest portion of her, though. I was talking to someone the other day about South American people. I was talking about why. I was like, well, basically, they were South American aboriginals, let's call them, like the aztecs and and many other tribes down there and then the spanish came in and they raped so much that they created the people that we think of today as hondurans or el salvadorians or mexicans even cubans you know cubans were the cubans that we know means i don't know i'm not familiar with that. I think so. Go ahead. Sorry. Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, you know, there's no such thing. There was no such thing as a

Cuban as we know them before the Spanish landed on Cuba and raped all of the Cuban aboriginal peoples until they looked like they do now, right? I don't know how it got this way. In the Dominican Republic, I went there. It's a surfing trip, so we go on the little, they pick us up from the airport and the guy starts explaining the Dominican Republic to us. And he says, there is no

national nationality here. The Dominican Republic Republicans don't look like anything. The black, white, the Mexican-looking people, Indian-looking people, they're just a big old mix, and there's no way to identify

someone who's been here forever. The very dark-skinned Dominican Republicans are almost always descendants of slaves, because the Dominican Republic was used as sort of a stopping point where the African slave trade... I never heard that. If you go back like

even though haiti and the dominican republic are right next to each other if you go to the dominican republic it's like you described where it's a lot of different mix of races if you go to haiti it's like all black because during their revolution when they kind of like kicked the french out they didn't just kill all the you know the colonizing whiteys they also killed the mulattos because they didn't see them as the same and so like that'sizing whiteys they also killed the mulattos because they didn't see them as the same and so like that's why even though they're on the same area they're like so so close like they're wildly different in terms of you know demography yeah what about jamaica did they have a similar thing there because i don't know because i have no idea it's they had

like tons of slaves there for like plants. Sugar cane, right? I think. Yeah. It's not what I think of as Jamaican crops. No, no. Well, you need something to eat when you're nice and stoned. You know, you're making a lot of sense. It's munchy food.

They go pot and sugar. We don't even refine it. we just start munching on the sugar cane can you do that what what what is raw sugar cane like i've never i don't think i've seen the plant yeah like i think you can chew it and like get the sweet liquid out of it but you can't ingest it is it like a hard green plant like a stalk it looks like i think it looks like corn there's like stalks like like almost like a wheat like stalk that comes off that's like the inside is white yeah yeah from what i understand there's a really relaxing video on youtube about like making sugar cane oh god i've watched it

like three or four times while like eating pixie sticks yeah right oh yeah i'm sure you watched that completely not on anything. Yeah. I like to kick back and watch YouTube videos about sugar cane. I watch it jacked up on peanut butter cups, so that's about it. Oh, this is a perfect topic to talk to someone who's had issues with food, right? What's your favorite candy? What's the best candy? Because I'm going to go ahead and step out of line here and say it's the miniature reese's peanut butter cup oh no i like the big ones if you're gonna eat a reese's cup get the big full size yeah let me tell you why i'm sorry to interrupt you but the reason the

miniature is the best is because it has a higher chocolate to peanut butter ratio than the big ones when you go with the but i'm there for the peanut butter dude no i'm on team kyle with this i have bought the super large ones have you ever bought like a one pound recent peanut butter cup you have oh i've had a couple nights to regret my friend uh they're actually not that good uh kyle's right in miniature form the ratio is way more on target than in like i don't know what it was. It might have been two pounds. I really don't know. Those ones you don't want because you get like a shell of chocolate and it really is just peanut butter.

The ideal one are the Reese's Big Cup where you get pretty much even peanut butter to chocolate. And it's ideal. Why would you not want that? They even sell them individually because I'm pretty sure some diabetes association told them you can't sell them.

Now you're making our job too hard. That's my favorite candy, Boogie. What is yours? Man, I got to tell you, I was looking for something sweet to eat post-surgery in a post-surgery world, and it's hard to do.

So I ended up finding like Rice Krispie Treats. So it's a little 60 calorie or 90 calorie. Can I cut this off? I am not interested in shrinking Boogie's opinion. I want expanding Boogie's opinion. Right back when you were on your candy game. Giant peanut butter cups the size of my fucking head. Oh, God, I'm so fucking into them.

No, no, because I'm getting this like you know post-surgery i found that the things i can most easily eat without vomiting no no no i want boogie and his eating crime i know it's not a candy but fucking i would buy a sheet cake and eat it across a weekend like eat just a slice of cake not even like my birthday it's just because i want it to die can i tell a quick story i have a sheet cake story and i'm sure i've told it once or twice along the last 10 years but i went to this kid's uh birthday celebration when we were like ninth grade or something like that whatever age that is and uh we're gonna we go over you know we play all day, like ride ATVs, and we spend the night and watch movies and everything.

Well, the evening came, and it was time for Andrew to have his birthday cake. And Andrew's mom, big woman. I'm going to say probably 300 pounds. Definitely bordering on 300. Healthy gal. Healthy gal, biggin'. And she comes out with a normal-sized birthday cake.

And, you know, nothing was amiss. It was a round cake. You know, a layer cake. Like maybe six layers of chocolate cake with vanilla frosting. Birthday-looking cake. No big deal. Birthday cake. Standard affair.

We all get our normal-sized slice. Everybody gets a little glass of milk and we enjoy it. And then I notice her reach into the fridge and she's getting something else out and i'm like oh is there ice cream perhaps to go with this cake because i'm a fan of that pairing no she has a second cake she has a no frills no letters drawn on it no fucking candles sheet cake it's a business cake for a big woman that's for her it's her cake this is her serving she gets out like a i'm gonna say it was 16 inch sheet cake out of the fridge plops that bitch down on the counter and cuts herself out a plate sized hunk and it's not like

multi-layers and pretty like ours it's all business like what he said she get and she gets herself a big hunk of it i take note of this no one else fucking notices we're all watching some shitty fucking pay-per-view movie about a dog who like is a cop or something on tv and and like but i i see her go back to her room with with this tankard of fucking milk and this hunk of cake this is great and i'm like taking mental note like all right that's how she stays big i was wondering you know when you when you're around a large person and it comes time for like there to be something sort of decadent eaten you always take note like are they going to put on airs for us and be like oh one scoop is all i need right when you know they want six scoops or are they just gonna put on airs for us and be like oh one scoop is all i need right

when you know they want six scoops or are they just gonna have no shame and go for it she had no shame halfway through the movie she she emerges from her bedroom and i'm thinking like she's heading to the dishwasher with that dirty plate like we all did to be polite uh-uh she gets that sheet cake back out plops that bitch back out. Gets herself another. She got three hunks. I remember. I fucking counted. I took note of this shit. What shape is a hunk? It's still a triangle, right? No, no. It's a square.

It's a square. This is a sheet cake. It's a flat rectangular fan. This is post her personal cake. This is her cake. She can cut it however she wants. I'm sure there's just some bites taken out around the edge and then she has to just throw it home.

You're like measuring the tooth marks. Yeah, it was a 300 pounder. Look at her cold black dead eyes. Walking into the kitchen. Walking out of the kitchen. Always the same fat. She gets that sheet cake out. She gets that sheet cake out and her eyes just roll over white.

And the blood and the frosting and the candles. And the arteries clogged as can be. She's going, I'm feeling numb. She's going back for round two. There's wax dripping down her face from eating the candles without blowing them out. It was hard to hear her because she was sneaking in those orthopedic socks on the hardwood, you know. But you knew she was coming for some more. Her son didn't react to what happened there with the extra cake and the hunk and stuff.

This was just ordinary for him, I guess. Oh, no one took... Well, I don't know. I feel like i'm pretty perceptive like like like i all i was thinking about during this movie like like was this movie shit first of all the mom picked the movie right like we it's pay-per-view and you can't really speak up when somebody's buying a six dollar movie over satellite but it was i was thinking in my head like no that's a shit movie that's a shit movie. That's a shit movie. Get fucking Rambo 8 or whatever. I had a better idea.

But what? I don't want to be rude. I don't want to be rude. So we ended up watching this shit movie that I'm just completely not involved in. And this is before cell phones did shit other than talk to people. So I'm paying attention to what the big lady's doing with that sheet cake in there because I was shocked that there was a sheet cake. I took note immediately that there was one. I had a situation like that in college my freshman year

it was in a history course an ancient history course and it was only an hour long but this same girl this very big girl who sat in front of me kind of you know angled catty corner like she she would bring snacks and it started off reasonable almost as though she was kind of like testing the waters so for like the first couple weeks it'd be like two or three bags of like those little goldfish chips and then one day came where i came into the class like right as it was starting and she was sitting there and i saw in front of her a family-sized bag of tostitos wow and i was like she's not she's not sitting with someone by the way it's just her and then the the gal next to her not not snacking on it as well she has a family-sized bag and in my

head i'm like that's fucking ridiculous that's embarrassing why would you bring a family-sized bag of chips to an hour-long class then she brings out the shareable size of medium queso dip that you can get at any store across this country. And she sat there and she ate the, and first of all, you might think, there's no way someone can eat an entire giant can or jar of queso dip with one family-sized bag of chips. She did it in 50 minutes alone

it was it was distractingly gross how was and there was no way that cheese was warm either taylor was room temperature cheese do you remember that time i ate that entire jar of queso in chicago that grossed me out so much that disgusted me i was like i thought i knew this guy and what he was about and the kinds of things he believed and then he baked breaks out a jar of queso and you just started eating it it was revolting frank yeah you drank i took an entire jar of testitos queso i warmed it up a bit in the microwave i think we had some kind of a bet going that i couldn't do it or something like that i made a little money like like maybe 20 bucks, but it was like an $8 jar of queso because I bought it from the hotel

and I just chugged the entire jar of queso down. I looked afterwards. The calories on a jar of queso are absurd. It might have been 700 calories or something like that. We've covered this. If you eat enough calories at once, you trick your body and it doesn't absorb them all. It lives in a land

of plenty and passes them through. I want to believe that. Especially with Thanksgiving coming up. I don't want to shift away from any topic we're on right now if anybody wants to complete anything, but I was going to ask what everybody's doing for Thanksgiving, since it's tomorrow. I just had a...

For those of you who still watch my channel, I just did a Thanksgiving rage video for francis so i have that and i have some leftovers for that tomorrow is going to be boring for me because of all my family's dead and all my friends have fucking shit to do um but then saturday i'm doing like a friendsgiving and having uh like about 20 people over and i got like my personal chef my friend who's like works at a local restaurant he's going to come down and cook for us this should be really nice, man.

We're doing a fried turkey. We're doing a baked turkey. We're doing a smoked ham. And then everybody else is bringing sides and shit. So I already got one Thanksgiving in today. The problem is it's so frustrating because I normally would eat both turkey legs off the turkey. I got halfway through a turkey leg with two spoonfuls of mashed potatoes. i still can't eat that much at once it's really good kind of frustrating i mean you don't want it must be aggravating where you're like this is thanksgiving

and i'm full as fuck and there's so much food yeah so it's kind of you've got to think to yourself i wanted to quit because i was suffering but that was not a good enough reason well so the biggest thing for me was i wanted to quit because i was married and i wanted what was best for me and my family now um so when my marriage fell apart and i knew it was going to fall apart before i agreed to the surgery in fact there's a story i've never i meant quit eating it was a joke oh yeah yeah here's the story here's the story i've never told actually um so it was about me and my ex-wife pretty sure we things are not working out and it was sometime in july um and i was supposed to get the surgery on the july 24th my birthday but they postponed it a week so i got

it on august 1st instead but um sometime late june early july we had like we went to vidcon had a really rough time there. And I, I'm in the bathroom and I closed the bathroom door and then I closed the, the, the door to the toilet so that she can't hear me. And I start crying and she hears me and she comes in and she's like, what are you crying about? And I'm like, I don't want to get the surgery. And she's like, wow. She's like, why? And I'm like, cause we're not working out man and i don't i don't know like this the reason i'm doing this is for us it's just like you gotta fucking do it for you steve you gotta fucking do it for you and i'm like but you're gonna end up leaving me she's like i that may very well be what happens man um but i'm telling you if i haven't left you yet chances are i'm

gonna stay and i'm like i get that i understand that. But I don't want to add 10 years to my life alone. That sucks. That fucking sucks. And she goes, I don't think we're going to end up alone. I think we're going to end up fine. I'm like, you know, I think even both of us knew at that point that that was not true and that, you know, it wasn't going to work out. But she's saying the right thing to get me to do what's best for myself. And it was, of course, the right thing because now I was able to take care for myself and it was of course the right thing because

now i was able to take care of myself i was able to you know i wasn't dependent on her i wasn't dependent on anybody else's and i've had a great year in that regard because i can walk more you know if you've been watching my channel i've been cave exploring with mcjugger nuggets i've been walking miles and sometimes i've gone to conventions without having a right one of the stupid mark carts i might still have to for vidcon this year. Um, but cause that's like 10, 12 miles of walking in a day, but I can still do now I can do a mile or two in a day. And so it's really nice in my, it's getting better every day. But, um, yeah, so it's, it's, it's, it's interesting because I was, I'm still very self-destructive and the surgery is doing exactly what it's meant to do. It keeps me from being self-destructive. I'll still choose the wrong foods from time to time. Hell, I'm up to choosing the wrong foods one, two, maybe three days a week sometimes, but I can't eat very much of those wrong foods. So I'm staying at about 350 pounds. I'm 350 pounds, which is still gigantic. I still

want to lose another hundred easy, but the current diet and exercise regimen I have with the surgery doing its job, uh, every once in a while I eat garbage and, uh, my body just can't eat it, you know? So tomorrow I will, or not tomorrow, Saturday, I'll do like zero damage. And today I was able to do like zero damage. Even Halloween, when all that candy, I bought a trough of candy to give away because we get like 300 trick-or-treaters and it was in the house for like a week. And I may be 20 pieces of candy, um, because that's all I could fit in across 10 days of it being there. You know, I can only eat a couple of pieces a day. I really could barely eat it. Yeah. It says it's surgery is still doing

exactly what it was meant to do. I think a lot of people are like, you'll stretch out your stomach by now, but you seem to be doing great. every time you come on you have lost an enormous amount of weight it's really impressive i'm really happy well i've been about i was i was 380 the last time i was on i'm right at 350 right now and holding steady i i do want to lose another 50 and after i lose another 50 they'll they're willing to do like surgery to remove a bunch of loose skin off the like the the front area which is really frustrating because it makes sex difficult. It makes walking difficult. It makes a lot of stuff difficult. I saw that tweet where you were like, for the longest time, I'm not getting it word

for word, but you were like, I thought for the longest time I wouldn't get the skin thing because I thought it was a superficial surgery. Turns out this is not a superficial surgery. When you have that much extra skin, it gets thin, feels like it's tearing. Yep, the skin is starting to break down uh my doctor said i could lose anywhere between 20 to 30 or 40 so like 20 to 40 pounds he's fairly certain i'll lose at least 20 from that weight that's in the front um but he's like trying to wait until you hit a certain weight and then get the skin surgery that's exactly how they want to do it. And they also want that skin to break down. They want the vascular, like the veins and stuff.

And they want some time to pass before they do it. Also, it needs to be medically necessary if my insurance is going to touch it at all. And so they have to prove medical necessity. And that means we have to wait until the infections start. We have to wait until the skin starts to break down have to wait until there's a medical history proving to the insurance company that it's absolutely necessary otherwise it's cosmetic but that's finally started to happen there's some area there where it's stretching and it's pulling and it hurts and it's painful and it's starting to break down and soon it'll get infected and soon it'll start bleeding and

soon it'll be fucking terrible and soon they'll finally do it. So Boogie, how's the mental health? I'm curious about that. You mentioned there's thousands of people who seem to have a job at just poking at you. You're wearing the Andy Kaufman shirt. It seems like you're not in a honey badger phase right now. It's interesting. I don't even mean by honey badger phase. Oh, that don't give a shit, right? Honey badger don't give a shit. Oh, I've never been there. I'll never be there. I come and go. It's really funny because I know a lot of people, I got wrapped up in that whole better help thing, if you guys remember all that.

I saw Franko's video on it, which is a good positive spin on it. I don't know. Well, better help really helped me. At the end of the day, they had a pretty shitty terms of service. Um, but the actual service itself was really good. I'm paying $300, uh, $270 per therapy session right now to see an actual therapist. I was only paying my handful, like a fraction of that to talk to a therapist through better help. But, uh, so I promoted that service cause it was good and I promoted it cause I was using it.

I'm still using it even though i don't promote it anymore um that said they are the ones who are like you know you need you need more therapy than we ever provide here you need to get into like real therapy but it was a step in the right direction it really was like a starter step um having somebody to talk to having somebody in my pocket and realizing therapy and talking could help. So when I did my one year anniversary meeting with my doctor, I was probably my lowest. And I made a video saying I was at my lowest actually. Um, and he said some stuff that really helped. He's like, so what do you weigh today? I'm like, I'm three, I think it was three 73 80 when I saw him. And he's like, boogie, I want to show you a chart. And he's like, are you mad? I'm like, and he's like are you mad i'm like yeah i'm pissed

off i'm furious i haven't lost more weight he goes but boogie let me show you a chart here's where you started now let's plug in these numbers you've lost 50 of your excess body weight do you understand now look at this chart look it's the one year average what is the one year average he said 50 because you're exactly average and i'm like but i don't want to be average i want to be exceptional and he goes and you are and can i speak with you very frankly and i'm like yes and he goes do you know how many of my patients got divorced two months after their surgery only you and he's like we watch your videos and when you announced your um divorce we thought for sure you

were going to fail i'm just to be entirely honest with you that we did not think you were going to lose any more weight we thought you're going to stop right there at 450 pounds we thought you were done losing weight and you persevered you pushed through it you lost your entire support structure and you still made it that is exceptional because he's like, with the stress of your job, that was another factor that we really thought it wasn't going to work. With your mental health, we really didn't think it was going to work. You've beaten the odds here.

So if you want to be exceptional, you are. And I'm like, I know you're just saying this shit to make me feel better or whatever, but that's fine. And he goes, I want to be truly honest with you. I want to be truly honest with you. And I'm like, okay, let me have it both barrels. And he's like, do you want to be like truly honest with you and i'm like okay let me have it both barrels and he's like do you want to be good at your job or do you want to lose the rest of the weight and i'm like what he's like either you need to back off on that fucking job and because i can see how stressed you are and the shit you've talked about and the mental toll

it's taking on you either you need to back off on that job or you'll never lose the rest of the weight. And I'm like, okay, all right, that's a good thing. Because secondly, you're not going to lose the rest of the weight if you don't get into therapy and you need an antidepressant worse than anybody else. So what are you willing to do? What are you willing to sacrifice to lose the rest of this weight? And I'm like, all right, give me the fucking pills, set me up with your fucking therapist, and I'll start trying to rethink how I do this job, and that'll be my primary goal with therapy. So I've seen that therapist now four or five times, I guess. And that has been my primary goal is how to stop giving a shit about what the LBGT community thinks of me.

And instead, if I want to be an an ally don't worry about what they think worry about what i do right so tomorrow i'm signing a check to open another gaming store that is an lbgtq safe zone and they'll never know about it no they won't give a shit the lbg community will continue to roast me daily who gives a fuck i'm not doing it for that reason why is that i'm fucking with you oh because there's some stupid shit i said on the h3 podcast i said i said that i hated that people were getting killed because of angry bigots and i felt like we were provoking angry bigots and provoking them is getting people killed and we shouldn't provoke them that was largely what i said i the way i said it was particularly stupid i was like maybe we

should maybe we shouldn't have let the supreme court push through same-sex marriage so quickly you know because obama was only on board with same-sex marriage about a year before, you know, it got pushed through. So maybe that's getting people killed and it sucks that it's getting people killed, but they took it in a very horrible way. Like, you want me to wait 20 years to get married? I'm like, if it saves your life, yeah, maybe. But, you know, I get why that wasn't right. But anyway, long story short, you know, trying to like really build those fundamentals and and and the probably the biggest mistake i did make for the longest time was i was saying

shit on purpose to rile up the little subreddits and like perfect example there's a girl i was doing videos with uh the grave gourd you can find her on instagram you can find her on twitter she's pretty cool but like i we work together exclusively just to fuck with those guys. Like I, if I'm ever dating again, I'm not putting the girl on my videos. Are you fucking kidding? I'm not going to fucking torture somebody like that and let those assholes torture that person. But this girl wanted to make it on Instagram. She's like, reached out to me, like, let me, let me help me do this. Let's fucking do it. I put her in a McJuggerNuggets video. People responded to it. So I'm like, Hey, come stay with me for a couple of weeks. You can teach me Instagram. You can teach me what it's like to be a woman on the internet you can teach me how

women promote themselves you can teach me what it's like to do that shit i can become a better youtuber i can be a better creator and i can help you out i'll put you in videos and make money off of you i'll stream with you and make money off of you i'll make money you'll make money everybody wins and these little fucking incels will lose their fucking minds you know so that to explore in your own head why do you poke a hornet's nest when you know it gets you stung because at this point i'm getting stung either way so i may as well smash the fucking nest you sure like don't you get stung more when you poke nests it's pretty it's pretty constant at this point i'm literally woody i'm telling you there are people whose entire career it's what's so funny is I share a lot of trolls with wings now,

which is really amusing. Really? Yeah. It's a lot of his, like the people, whatever I recognize, like usernames and shit. And they'll come in and they'll say stuff about wings and chat.

Like, what about wings? I don't fucking talk about that guy. I don't worry about that guy. Let him live his life. I don't give a shit. And like, I guess they're expecting me to take the bait the way wings does,

but I don't ever give into it. You i'm sure people want your your your valid opinion and like thoughts on his weight loss because you know you're you're like a year ahead of him or something like that on the same road essentially so so like i think a lot of people who want wings to succeed in his weight loss and i'm one of them i want wings to succeed in his way we all do i guarantee we all do yeah i i i have this this i and you can almost see it like in him now now that he's lost whatever he's he's lost because he doesn't talk about it but he's i think he's i would guesstimate he's lost about 70 pounds maybe maybe somewhere between 70 and 90 pounds or something like that like you can already see like the man that he could look like he will he will pass me i'm fairly certain because he was a much smaller starting

weight than i was i don't know that he'll lose my biggest ever was 600 pounds i'm 250 pounds down for my biggest i'm 180 pounds down from my surgery pre-surgery date um but i don't know that he'll lose 180 pounds but he'll definitely weigh less than me very soon he'll be less than 350 pounds very soon i'm so proud of him i'm so happy for him yeah one of the things that i would want to ask you because of your experience and your your almost unique perspective in this in that you're all you're a youtuber and you've had this surgery and you've started at such a high weight as in regards to him it's like he's gone on his diet and and i use that word literally like

what he's eating consists a lot of like wendy's chili now a lot of people shit on that because it's a fast food like food or whatever right but but to me the fact that he's consistently eating it that that like he's got into this mode of like that's what i eat it's 400 calories i it it shows routine it's the routine seems to be very healthy and i feel like the routine is is is what's healthy like if he just for the cameras or youtube was like yeah look at this spinach salad with kale that i'm eating with a light vinaigrette we know you're not eating that every single day he absolutely should not be eating a fucking kale salad at this point it's the last thing he should be fucking put into his body it would be tantamount to suicide it would be tantamount to organ damage we tantamount to fucking bone damage if he was

eating garbage like that right now he needs to be focusing protein protein protein that dude needs like 120 grams of protein a day and if he's getting it through wendy's chili if he's getting it through beans and meat that's not the ideal way to do it. The beans alone would be it making a pot of fucking pinto beans would be a really great system. But if that's his way of doing it, that that's better than, you know, I mean, at the end of the day, right now, it's about nourishing his body and pushing the limits of his new stomach to nourish his body and his body needs protein. So the biggest issue he's facing right now is whether or not you will lose lean mass as well as fat at the rate he's burning right now. And if you don't maintain your protein, you will burn lean mass. We're talking about bone

density that that's damaging your body for the rest of your life. Or we're talking about stripping your muscles, which lowers your basal metabolic rate. And so the goal is to try to make sure you only lose 50% of the weight as lean mass. That's the minimum goal. Like you want to lose a hundred percent fat, but that's impossible. Yeah. But you want to, you don't want to lose half of your weight wants to be 50% lean mass, 50%. If anything, if you lose more lean mass than fat, you've done yourself a great disservice, right? Yeah, you're putting yourself in the hole. Because the big thing people don't get with muscle mass is your basal metabolic rate. The more of that you lose, you're just making it harder on yourself because then you're just fueling a body of fat and bones and organs.

Do you know, Taylor, because there's an actual number, how many calories one pound of lean muscle will just burn on its own per day? There's a formula for it. And I've always thought that was really interesting for long-term weight loss or long-term healthy lifestyle would be to pack on three extra pounds of lean

muscle mass. A pound of muscle mass is a big deal. It says that take the perennially popular one stating that one pound of muscle burns an extra 50 calories a day while at rest. So if you gain 10 pounds of muscle, your resting basal metabolic rate is going to increase by 500.

Yeah, it's a big deal. It's a big deal to gain that muscle. So in your case, Taylor, I'd love to know what your basal metabolic rate is because you have packed on several pounds of lean, powerful muscle mass. I've put on a lot. I don't know the actual number, but in the last year and a half, two years, whenever we started that initial fitness challenge that I actually stuck with and I still work out very consistently, I can noticeably eat more shit. Three years ago, if I had a weekend we're on a sunday i was like

fuck it i'm gonna have a couple beers i'm gonna have a whole thing of cheese it's like the next day i'd wake up and be like oh i feel huge and i feel awful but now like if i do splurge on a bad day my recovery time is so much quicker like i'll feel a little bloated but i don't feel bad like i feel like it burns off pretty quick. Is this a good ad? Fitness talk? We should go into the ad for sure. Yeah, I should definitely do an ad. There's no... Let me just make this so I can read it.

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Woody's holding it up. It's a very aesthetic looking package. Yeah, it looks nice and they sent me they probably sent us all maybe a couple of watches a gold thing that I couldn't identify that I thought I won't even say what i thought it was for and uh what was the other thing oh the the glasses they sent me um

glasses with clear frames which uh and i and i was like chiz why do i have clear frames he's like ah those are for looking at at uh at video screens and i've been using them when i uh would watch tv and stuff and i think it's uh I think it's nice on my eyes. So I also wear their sunglasses every day. I really do. Those are the sunglasses that I choose to wear. Let me jump in. So I know we said fitness talk.

I didn't realize that we didn't have Boogie All Show. So I think we'll just save that for when he's, so we don't waste our precious Boogie time. But the movement thing leads into another thing I want to talk about. Last week, I asked people to pimp the another thing I want to talk about. Last week, I asked people to pimp the show. I didn't talk to my co-hosts about it or chiz, but I thought it was a really good idea. Another show I watch says, you know, share it and do whatever you can.

So I picked a winner. I'll show you. It's this gentleman here, Marabulas, something close to that. Let me link the other guys on the show so they're on the same page. And he pimped it on his Facebook page. He said, hey, guys, check this thing out. I like this podcast. I watch a lot of them, and it's one of my favorites. And he linked to one he liked especially, which was Arian Foster. So the reason I picked him as a winner is it's like the kind of thing I'd like to see. It turns out that if you give gifts for ratings,

then that can violate some people's terms of service. I don't know who, it's iTunes, Spotify, or something like that. So while I do appreciate you guys rating us, that's not what I'm going for. I'm not looking to violate any terms of service. You just do that out of the goodness of your heart. But if you want to win... Oh,

and then Maraboulas, I'll get back to you on whether you want the Kyle doll or the Taylor doll. Hold on. You know which one you want. You want the Taylor doll. And I just tagged you on Reddit, Maraboulas, as very cool dude. I think so. He wrote that he wanted

one of them. Or I might be mixing him up with somebody else. I will be changing that tag if it's Kyle Doll. I want both of these. I want to have six. Oh, no. He said, and my desire for that. He's like, I have a bigger Facebook than most and a desire for the Kyle Doll more than most.

Yeah! All right! So this guy is all yours. I will be packaging it up and syncing up with you on your address and whatnot. And this one is still available to someone who pimps the show. Why do they have such fuckable mouths? Well, they try to emulate reality. This was my Halloween costume.

At the time, my face was painted like a puppet. And there was a big like i don't know what that like cross is they used to make puppets dance and stuff and these guys were hanging on either side of me and i was the pka puppet show and early in the thing their mouths were gonna go so that like like as a ventriloquist kind of puppet and uh that was too ambitious that the mouse didn't really work on Halloween, but they are hilarious. And terrifying.

They are really funny. I like them. So anyway, Marble Us is going to get the Kyle doll. The Taylor one's still out there. Here's the deal. You go to the subreddit, RPKA. Everyone knows Reddit at this point, right? You'll see a sticky post that I make,

and just show me how you promoted the show. I picked the Facebook one because that's a good promotion that no one disapproves of. You might have a Twitter, an Instagram, put it on your Tinder profile, Bumble, all the good ones. And just show me how you picked the show. I'll pick a winner. You'll get one of these dolls. And I brought it up because I can give away these movement watches to fans, perhaps. We haven't advertised for them yet, but Dollar Shave Club has cologne that they sent me. I can shoot that. I got a lot of cool stuff here that we can use to do our thing.

So anyway. Yeah, and if we run low of Woody's stuff, I can't wear all the watches that I've been sent. So I've got some cool watches as well. Maybe I should grab them. When it's my turn, I'm going to send you guys useless shit. You can get this all-the-way-used false-scented candle. You can get this half-eaten bag of Wisps cheese snacks. You can get this partially-drank Diet Werner's soda. You can get my friend's Adderall

that he left here. Nice. Really? That sells for a lot in college. But yeah, anyway, something I thought would be a neat way to promote the show. You guys put it on your social media, win some prizes, it'll be a win. Last time there were only like 50 posts

on the whole subreddit thread, and a lot of them were responses to people who did it. So I chose from like 12 or something. Your odds aren't that bad. So give it a go. Yeah, this is... I was like, did they send me a cock ring? Is that what you thought it was?

I was like, what the fuck is that? I think it's supposed to be a bracelet. But there's no way this fits on my wrist, is it's I'm trying to get the plastic wrap off of you like an extender it's oh I think it is on the back it says Bray yeah I love you guys and it's it's really wrapped well in this like stretchy plastic it won't do you guys know do you guys know Lacey green no I know the name yeah she's like a youtuber she's like on mtv a lot she sent me a fucking cock ring in the mail well we're just like out of nowhere a copy of her book as well

but she's like hey well along with the book here's a vibrating cock ring like what a weird fucking thing to get right was it so there's a weird thing to get it's a disposable one too i didn't know we were at the point that you can make disposable vibrating cock rings. Yep. Pretty great. Yeah. I haven't tried it yet. But why would you want to dispose it?

Nothing more shameful than washing up your cock ring in the sink. Because imagine you're screwing somebody you don't entirely trust, but you still want to use a cock ring on them. Yeah, you can imagine that, right? You still want to vibrate your clit, except you're afraid they have a terrible disease that will kill you, right? It's what I call Saturday. So I haven't found a girl that I want to vibrate her clitoris with a cock ring yet. Like, I, I, I,

you know, this would fit a girl well, I think, but like, honestly, like... Well, that's what it's for, right? No. Is it a nose ring? Really try. It almost looks like you're not trying to put it around you i promise i'm trying like if i tried any harder i'd bleed all right i i have one too i can i haven't unwrapped mine because i was going to make it designed to make your arm look pierced

i don't know like like look at this angle like like it's like try bending it like try like pulling it a little bit on either side. Open it up a bit. Maybe I have more feminine wrists, but given that I can't even unwrap it... If I open it up big enough to go on my wrist, it just falls off. Well, open it up

and then put it on and then re-close it. So that it never comes off again? Well, you just have to re-open it. Yours opens? It's closer. If I bend it every time you want to take it off. Yours opens? I think it's closer. If I bend the shit out of it with my bare hands. As powerful as they are. Oh, yeah.

This feels a little dangerous when you have it in the midway point. I'm not trying to commit suicide. What if this is like some watch stand, and you guys are trying to shove it up your arm? It totally could be a watch stand. I'm pretty sure it's a bracelet because it says bracelet cut one like on the thing. I know it's so hard to read.

That's got to be a woman's bracelet then. Yeah, it has to be, right? Yeah, for sure. This is like monkeys trying to figure out like rocks and shit, like trying to, it's like watching you guys brute force this shit. Yeah, like that It opens this wide my bones are more than that wide and I have I'm trying to take you move it watch My movement to watch

It makes the time waiting between not drinking water and not eating food so much easier to pass. It glitters like the sun. It glitters like the sun in the African heat that steals all of our nourishment. That's a good look for you, dude. I want to take back what I said about you not really trying.

I'm really trying. Does the watch fit? the watch would fit and the watch comes with like all of the links like the extra links I'll show the whole display case here on the second watch

but if you see in the bottom there's like extra links there in case it doesn't fit at first and you can I've done it myself on some watches but I usually send mine to a jeweler to like get them done correctly so you don't scratch anything and they can take links out put links in i said your watch to a jeweler that's fancy as fuck well i gotta if it's if it's a i you know i if it's a couple thousand dollar watch you know i don't want to scratch it by like taking some sharp thing i gotta say to be honest with you like for the longest time there i was pretty anti-watch because i'm like man i've got a phone like i have a time piece but now that my wrists

are actually small enough and i see like the styles of movement every once in a while i'm just like man that's a nice fucking watch i would just look good on me right like that's that's the thing like it's not about like it's about fashion now and they make some pretty cool fucking look at and hey don't sneeze at the nose ring. Exactly. Free nose ring with every purchase. I'd like to know what time it is without taking my phone out of my pocket and turning it on. If you start wearing a watch, I think you'll find that other process to be a pain in the ass. I wear a watch every day. I have a couple of movement watches for those rare occasions I do something formal.

But I have an odd requirement in that I need to know my altitude all the time. So movement watches do that. Yep yep three feet you'll say no i i i know you fly yeah i do acrobatic flying and i want to like know my height before i get to make sure if you do a loop de loop that you're not going to do a loop de dead i have um make this about paramotors because that's my thing but um i have like a vibe on how long it takes me to descend. So it's like, yeah, I won't start until this says 3,000 feet and then my internal clock is ticking and I

just know what's up. So anyway, but yeah, the watches look nice. And like I said, they have little links that you can add and subtract if it's not the right size. For sure. Not very hard. This episode of PKA is also brought to you by a company we have a lot of personal experience with, and that's Postmates.

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you don't want to go out and get food, maybe you just don't want to get dressed, maybe you're just not feeling up to it. Kyle is the second biggest Postmates customer on the planet behind that rapper that spent like 50 grand. Yeah, me and Post Malone. You and Post Malone love Postmates.

Yeah, absolutely. What's great about Postmates, by the way, I always like to help you guys with the ads. I don't know if you've noticed that. Oh, we appreciate it. What's really great about Postmates, by the way, because there's other competing services out there that do food delivery, right? These guys will go to a grocery store for you guys. These guys will go to a convenience right? These guys will go to a grocery store for you guys.

These guys will go to a convenience store. These guys will go to a liquor store. They will bring drinks. You're at a party, okay? And you guys are drunk, and it's no one's safe to drive. You don't have a designated driver, or you just don't want to leave because you've got a bunch of drunk people in your house. They will bring you drinks to your front door, dude.

That is a really good service. I'm not sure that it's in my area but i i i'm redownloading the app right now because i desperately want them to be in my area it's dangerous boogie don't do it well no it's a matter of it's a matter of convenience at this point like i can't even eat all that much but it's just nice to be able to have like somebody stop you need some you're able you got a girl over your place you need something you don't want to leave the girl you don't want to to fucking, you know, you need condoms. You need something.

They will hook you up. They're amazing, dude. Yeah, you can often do that. That's like restaurants have these sort of secret menus where if you know the code word, you know what to ask for, they'll just put anything together for you. Postmates kind of has a thing like that where you can just contact your driver and be like, hey, I know I ordered a burger and fries, but could you stop by X, Y, and Z and pick up this other thing that I need? And they'll often do it for you. And, you know, you just be like, yeah, I'll give you an extra $3. I've been with people who, you know, I don't want to make them look bad or anything.

Maybe they wouldn't care for me saying so, but they'll stop at other places. It's very convenient for a number of reasons. And I want to say that I have actually seen AutoZone on Postmates before. Like AutoZone, the car repair place. Really? That's actually very handy. At first I was like, this is ridiculous. Why would I ever do that? And then I was like, well, if my car won't start because the starter's busted and I can get on my phone and be like, bring me a starter for a 67 Delta and they'll just run that thing over to my house for a $5 delivery fee, then this is the best thing ever. I don't have to call somebody, get him to drive me. I don't

have to take an Uber or something like that. I can literally have a starter delivered to my house, go into my garage, get the old Delta running again and get back out on the road. The other side, a lot of times when I'm working on my car and I recognize I need a part, I have my wife's car, but I'm filthy. So I either have to clean up just to sit in her car and drive it, or I make her car filthy. Those are my choices. Yeah. Yeah.

Big fan. Big fan of Postmates. Have you guys ever had something where when you were younger, you hated it, and for the longest time, you convinced yourself you hated it, and then you tried it as an adult, and you realized it was actually pretty good? It can be a food, a sport, anything. Do you have anything like that? Yeah. I'm trying to think. It's definitely going to be a food. I'm trying to think.

Getting pegged. No, okay. Getting pegged while dressed up as a wolf. Yeah. Notice, by the way, out of all the things I did not deny, out of all the things I did deny, I did not deny getting pegged. That's true. Sorry, I can tell you're honest. With a full-on strap-on?

I'm not saying. I'm just saying. Okay, I'll be honest. It's never happened, but I'm open to it. I've never tried it, so I don't know that it's good, but if some girl has a strap on and she's like, I want to be in that ass, I'm going to let it happen. I'm going to try it once. Yeah. Because that's where the male G-spot's supposed to be.

You know? So, I don't know. Maybe I'm missing out on something amazing. Right? Like, maybe there's something amazing I'm missing out on. It might be great. I'll give it a try. You know, there are babies... I'm getting my ass fucked right now. I changed my mind. Or maybe you'd be like,

this is pretty great. Couldn't you start off with a little finger in the bum? See if it's a good fit? I mean, I've had that. That was okay. I mean, my doctor did it. I didn't like it when he did it. I definitely did not like that. He's like all right i'm all done are you sure and he was checking for a vagina the last time i had a finger in there so

he's checking for a secret hidden vagina that's a true story i think you guys have heard that one yeah you told us it's yeah you you say some things sometimes and i'm like boogie likes to share yep i don't i'm an open but look here's thing. If you can learn from the stupid shit I've done and do better than me, then do it. What is something that you, that you tried? What brought up the topic, Taylor? Oh, no, I, mine wasn't anything sexual. I was, I bought a, I was looking online for like healthy fats to like supplement my diet. Cause I like something I don't like. And I went back and tried it and I still don't like it. It are avocados. They just don't taste like enough. They're not that good. I don't like, and I went back and tried it, and I still don't like it, are avocados. They just don't taste like enough.

They're not that good. I don't know what everybody's freaking out about. They're not that great. So I was looking up other healthy fats, and it's like dark chocolate. In my head, I was like, ugh, that nasty cacao, cocoa, 80% shit. That's disgusting. And I bought a bar at the grocery store thinking like, all right, here's a bar of this for like $6 because that shit turns out it's expensive and i was like this will last me a month because i don't

even like it i'll force myself to eat a square or two ate the whole thing turns out dark chocolate's pretty fucking good i prefer that's the thing i have to avoid now yeah yeah i it's interesting you say that i really like dark chocolate like i and i discovered that young like my mom had like the milk chocolate chips and like she baked so there had the milk chocolate chips. She baked. So there would be milk chocolate chips in the cupboard. And they'd also be bittersweet. And I always liked the bittersweet more. And she'd be like, ah, don't eat those. Those aren't even for eating.

Those are for cooking. And I'm like, well, they're fucking tasty. And so as an adult, occasionally, if I do get a candy bar, I'll often get like... I'll go to Trader Joe's and get like the most gourmet fancy fucking fruit loop bar that there is that was probably made by slave labor or something like that but it's so good it's like like like 75 80 dark chocolate content it's good it's it's fucking tasty it's not my cup of tea it's an acquired taste i think i think it's like beer you know like your first beer i haven't had dark chocolate in 15 years i think you have i i think you like you like beer though right taylor do you like dark

beer no no i don't like the dark kind have you ever had a um a hot cup of hot cocoa that was super dark almost to the point of bitter no i've never had that oh my god so what you do is you basically what swiss miss is then no you is you basically. Unless that's what Swiss Miss is, then no. You basically get one of those like really dark, dark, dark cocoa mixes, right? And then the goal is you get like the syrup, the chocolate syrup, the sweet. Not like Hershey's. You want to get like a good one, like Ghirardelli or whatever. Bosco.

And then like do that dark, dark shit, put some whipped cream on it, and then do that Ghirardelli on top of it. Man, you want to talk about oh my god like the the sweet chocolate versus the oh such a contrast it's really good it's really funny because a lot a lot of new foods um entered my whole like food uh lexicon my diet with the post-surgery like in the last year I've rediscovered a lot of foods that I don't really like like I will eat carrots and broccoli and all kinds of shit i normally never enjoy um i love a good wedge salad oh my god i'll go to a place a restaurant just get nothing but a wedge salad now and just enjoy that um what's

the biggest probably food item that you've gone back to that you're surprised you like now vegetables just just across the board i despised vegetables of all types but just like now just like some carrots that have been lightly microwaved are fucking amazing it's just insane warm carrots just enough to soften them you know boil them enough to soften you ever get steamables like those packs you can get the story just like zap uh some broccoli for 30 seconds and it's good it's still broccoli so it's not great but i know what it is like the tomatoes for me because as a kid like i despise tomatoes i wouldn't touch them and my dad always liked them like like he would sometimes just make a tomato sandwich i think i think woody likes the tomato sandwich too you know just just bread tomato slices salt pepper

maybe some mayo i like mayo a lot on everything everything. I've been having that a lot for breakfast, man. That's really good. Sometimes I'll eat tomato slices. If I'm at the grocery store and I see a really nice tomato, I'm like, ooh. You're coming out with me, buddy. You ever do just a BMT, like a bacon, mayo, tomato

sandwich? Have you ever do that? I've been having that a lot for breakfast. I have pictures in my phone of the BL having that a lot for breakfast i i i have pictures in my phone of the blts that i make because they're so beautiful i i i i love a blt sandwich i like cooking i can't do the lettuce but two slices of ripe maple bacon and one big thick slice of tomato with a little bit of mayo and put that on king's hawaiian bread holy fuck and i still can't finish a full sandwich like that but i'll try and so i've been having that a couple you can put anything on those hawaiian rolls and it's fantastic they're so i had one but they do make they do make sliced bread now

they do make sliced bread i've heard that yes A lot of good things since then? Nothing matches it. I don't know. People say this is the best thing. Oh, yeah, that actually totally is what you... Thank you for laughing. See, like, tomatoes are a food where it's like, unlike other foods, there's a chasm of difference between

a shit tomato and a really good one. Like, if you get a garden tomato and a big, thick slice, and you take a bite of that on a burger, you're like, oh my god, how have I not always loved these? It's so juicy and crisp and good, and then you'll go get a Whopper and be like, ah, I remember why

I don't like these terrible fucking tomatoes. Get, like, the heirloom tomatoes are fucking incredible. if you have a co-op in your area whole foods has decent tomatoes occasionally too but if you have like a co-op in the area and somebody's selling heirloom tomatoes there it's like kissing an angel's vagina it's so fucking good yeah those are kyle your camera is frozen to me is that true for everybody um maybe he just died i i have no idea why can you still hear me definitely

you still hear you just fine i'm sure the camera will jump back in a sec what are your cameras been frozen for me i'll show skype's a bitch i'm gonna try like minimizing the window and like okay you know for those things yeah for those of you i just started the podcast chiz has been uh volunteering to help me out a little bit too But I'm just doing a gaming one It's like 80% gaming, 20% bullshitting Just me and a couple of friends That's how we started I'm doing it as just an excuse

To give my friends a leg up Because they're doing Twitch and stuff They're like big underscore breakfast If you want to check them out on Twitch My podcast is going on my main channel for those of you who care And want to listen to me talk for a long time And I won't talk about any of the stupid depressing shit i talk about here we're just going to talk about video games mostly um it's it's kind of fun we haven't like named it or anything yet though i'm

thinking i'm leaning towards the entitled gamer podcast or something like that but i don't want to pigeonhole myself into a gaming podcast necessarily yeah yeah definitely so yeah because you clearly like discussing way more than gaming. Right. So we got like one episode up. We're filming another one next Monday for those who want to hear it. That said, fuck, I love this show, man. I love being on PK. Thanks for coming on. You guys talk about shit I will never talk about anything else.

I'm not leaving yet or anything just yet too, by the way. I'm going to fucking hang out. But I fucking love you guys talk about shit I will never talk about. There are so many times after we finish recording this show, we're all like sit down like get on my computer like turn something on and i'll remember something i said and i'll be like oh no oh yeah i shouldn't have had that hot take that's what i'm saying about pedophiles to save children the people who want to get me just go through all the pkas i've said some stupid shit on this show the last time i was all talking about like banging a redheaded stripper or whatever and then like that redheaded stripper

made like a hit piece video on me oh is that the same one that's the same one dude yeah i was like because i was alluding to like what if i was banging some hot 20 year old stripper right um well i was that's why i was alluding to it and then like later on she fucking comes out like a video that's clearly all bullshit if you ever saw it it's like completely all bullshit but i don't even know she's like he's emotionally abusive and he would call me a piece of shit and he would like he wouldn't let me leave his house i wouldn't let you leave my house i was asking you to leave i was pissed when you'd show up sometimes like what are you talking about what are you talking about but like clearly she mentions money like 30 times in the 10 minute video so it's clearly she's was mad about money yeah trying

to bilk you out of something right so you know long story short i'm not here to talk her or you know but like the last time i was like getting myself in all kinds of trouble i wonder what kind of trouble i got into today probably talking talking about that grave girl girl or probably talking about fucking blowing pedophiles to save a child or something, right? Well, you know, that's a real thing. Hashtag on your knees for the kids. But it is interesting what gets you in trouble anymore. The other day I was talking about our forefathers creating a country creating a country where we could coexist and people like those white motherfuckers own slaves they only were doing it to try to create a country where white men could

get ahead they know people of color have never had a fair share in this country and i'm like you're right but like still if you look at the documents like we do have a structured government where we could build it to where we could coexist in and that's my point like no you're just a slave vote i'm like i don't know what you guys what are you just talking about like like you're brainwashed you white motherfucker this is this is your privilege showing and i'm like it probably is i get that because you know i was educated wrong i was educated to believe this country was a great melting pot and the whole point of it was to be one giant experiment about coexisting but i don't fucking know you know it's amazing like what gets you in trouble anymore on like and that's the

thing people people ask me all the time like why are you always so much more trouble than everybody else it's because i give a shit like david duke doesn't give a fuck right like you can you call david duke on his shit all day david duke don't give a fuck that's why nobody calls david duke doesn't give a fuck right like you can you can call david duke on his shit all day david duke don't give a fuck that's why nobody calls david duke out on his shit try tweeting it uh farrakhan being like hey you're being a little offensive he doesn't care he doesn't give a shit like those people don't mind at all but like a trans person messages me and they're like boogie you made me feel really uncomfortable there and i'm already having hard enough time i'm like oh fuck i fucked up i don't want to hurt this one person i don't hurt anybody replying to it is almost always a mistake

right so I've always I've been in the barrel plenty of times right and you want to be like oh wait wait wait if these just guys just hear my perspective or maybe they have facts wrong right and they're giving you a hard time and they don't know the deal your um maybe gay marriage should have held on so these people don't get beat up and hurt anymore right it's like oh i just need to explain myself again so that this time they understand how i'm coming from the heart on their side doesn't work doesn't work they've already chosen to fuss at you yeah and their mind is made up i've and most of them will never mind zero times right and the and the worst part about it is like some of them are being purposely

obtuse you know people some more than some dude like i've seen some of your takes where you are clearly trying to be even-handed on things and then you'll get assaulted verbally by people on twitter and it's like well so many of them they it's not even some like no so many are deliberately misunderstanding because they see a little a little hook that they can grab onto and be offended and mad and i don't i don't care if what he was really meaning is a kind-spirited thing no i'm already mad and i'm gonna stay mad i don't care what he says like that's the the danger of it it's like but like and the more you engage the more like they strawman you right like like somebody said something to me a pr guy said to

me the other day he's like i'm like i'm gonna make a video about this it's like why what the fuck would you make a video about this for and like so my audience knows he's like your audience has never heard about this shit there's like a handful of people on your twitter that have heard about this shit and there's a bunch of people who don't watch you who've heard about this shit there's like a handful of people on your twitter that have heard about this shit and there's a bunch of people who don't watch you who've heard about this shit why are you now going to inform the people who do watch you about some bullshit they don't give a fuck about make a gaming video let me put a sponsor in it let's make some money just shut the fuck up just shut the fuck up he's right he's right yeah and there's another side of it, too, that this is what helped me here. And it is a retold story.

But I've watched Bill Clinton talk about being governor and then president. Right. So the way that he tells it is when he was governor, he felt kind of engaged with his people. Right. Like the governor kind of worked directly. He went to neighborhoods. He did things that impacted people. That was that.

Then he said when he became president it's not about republican democrat when he became president suddenly they didn't see him as what he called a three-dimensional person anymore he was just like uh i don't know a blue wall to attack to sling mud at to like go at they didn't see him as like a living breathing human who was trying to do this job the best he could and get a blow job anyway anyhow you know my theory is he wasn't getting blow jobs otherwise right thank you yeah thank you so have a little defender well the worst part about it if you dig deep enough but it was clear they were in an open marriage let me it was clear that they weren't in love with each other they were a power couple

they were with each other for the power they weren't fucking each other. They were a power couple. They were with each other for the power. They weren't fucking each other. And you had a license to fuck whatever. What the fuck? Okay. Anyway. Sorry. Yeah. So like recently we did this fitness thing, which we'll talk about shortly.

And there were going to be punishments for losing. When I saw the punishments that some of the viewers came up with, they were like scarring things, things that would like completely kill any employment you might have from here going forward. Tattoos were an idea, embarrassing tattoos that you wouldn't want seen. And that to me was just symptomatic

of not seeing the hosts as like real three-dimensional people. Like I'm somebody's dad. And, you know, so like when I view it through that lens it's like oh yeah well he just he just doesn't see me he sees me as a person on his computer monitor not like a real guy yep right and then like this is where i'm gonna get really insulting this will get me in a lot of trouble but like i'm not a particularly intelligent person i think i'm slightly above average but barely if that maybe just average right that said sometimes we're dealing with people who are dumber than me and that's pretty fucking scary because i

am not that bright so sometimes we're dealing with people who genuinely believe anything they read on the internet or genuinely cannot understand context or genuinely cannot understand the world around them those are some of those dangerous people those are also some of the people who might show up your front fucking door one day with a gun uh you know so i you know i don't know those like sometimes you're dealing with some like when you put yourself out there you're dealing with some really crazy scary people and unfortunately i have an anxiety disorder and so when you talked about mental health earlier that's my biggest issue is like i i i'm so terrified that one of these like crazy pieces of shit are going to fucking show up my front door. And I've had somebody show up my front door.

I've had a couple people now show up my front door. Do they have bad intent? Like I've had a lot of people show up at my front door, but usually they like me. I had one guy had like really scary intent. He wanted to be my best friend. And he said he Googled me. He was like, I don't even remember driving here. He was like super creepy.

I had another guy show up my front door. And he's like, I don't like what you have to say on the internet. And I was like, okay. And I just closed the door and that was it and he left wait i'm not gonna engage with that initial first guy i want to know a little more like he showed up and he said i don't even remember driving here i want to be your best friend so i opened my front door and i'm like expecting a delivery and it's some just dude in a delivery van like a flower delivery truck and i opened the door and i'm like hey man what's up you got a delivery van, like a flower delivery truck. And I opened the door and I'm like, Hey man, what's up? You got a delivery? And it's like, no man, I'm here for you. And I'm like, Oh, what? And he's like, uh, yeah, we're going to be friends. And I'm like, we're going to what now?

And so I didn't have a gun at the time I do now, but I had a baseball bat that I kept next to the door. So I reached over and grabbed my baseball bat where he couldn't see me doing it and like so tell me your story buddy and he goes well i really relate to you and i really like what you're doing and i really like uh i like your videos and stuff and i'm like oh this is all good stuff so far i'm not like baseball bat ready you know um he's like oh yeah right it's exactly that it's exactly that it's like it's over here in the corner and my friend chad my roommate chad he's the one who put it there and he's like like, in case, you know, just in case. I'm like, all right, well, this was the in case. This was the case, right? So, you know, I'm grabbing the fucking thing. All right, tell me more. I've got it here behind the door, you know? Like I knew we had so much in common with the video games and the abuse and growing up abused.

And I'm like, I just knew all I had to do was meet you one day. If I met you, we'd be best friends. And so I'm watching one of your videos and you mentioned that you lived in Northwest Arkansas. And I don't even remember doing it, but I remember flopping over to Internet Explorer and I searched for your name and your address was there. I just got in Docs for one of the first times. And it goes, and there was your address. So I got into my car and I started driving and now I'm here. And I don't even remember driving here. I just know that we're going to be best friends.

And I'm like, gee, this is scary as fuck. Dude, the red flag for me was Internet Explorer. This guy's fucked. And I'm like, okay, dude. So this is not how this is done. Like any chances of us becoming friends was shot to shit the moment you rang my doorbell. Okay. And he goes, no, don't, don't, don't say that.

Don't say that. And I'm like, dude, who do you work for? Like, is that your boss's van? Cause your boss probably wouldn't like you driving your van here to do something like that. Don't you think? And he's like, you're right. You're right.

You're right. I shouldn't have done this. I should have thought. I'm like, yeah yeah you definitely should have thought go home and write me a letter the way anybody else would and we'll see i'm not saying there's a zero percent chance i'm saying you screwed it up pretty bad but maybe if your letter is like cool like maybe we'll talk in email and then we'll see what happens from there but dude i've got plenty yeah i got plenty of friends but you can't show up at someone's door

like this okay like it's not cool it's scary there's dangerous people out there and i don't know if you're dangerous no dude i'm not dangerous i'm not dangerous i'm here to be your friend i just want to be your best friend i want to be close i i need a friend i'm like and i get that and i get that so go home and write me a letter i want to go now this is making me sad you got to go chris hansen at that point Let me ask you a question, Bill. Did you bring anything with you? What do you mean? Is there a plastic bag in your car

full of items? Yeah, I brought some things, but that doesn't mean I'm intending on doing it. What did you bring? There's a stun gun. What else? There's a club. Yeah, what else?

A couple rolls of duct tape, some plastic sheeting. Heard you're down for pegging. Well, I heard you mention how you like peanut butter cups. That I've placed leading out to the back of the van. The two things I know about you is you like peanut butter cups and you're open to pegging. I brought magic cards. I brought magic cards.

I figured, you know, I'd bind you, tie you up a little bit, feed you some peanut butter cups. We'd play a few games of magic. I'd stun you a few times. We'd have a good old time. Come on. His letter was very much a manifesto. It had no paragraphs, no periods.

It was all just words vomited into an email. Oh, God. And it was just like fucking three pages of of like you know i'm like i'm done i can't i don't even know what any of this crazy shit is or what it means but what was like if it wouldn't divulge too much about him that's private like what was kind of the the vibe of the manifest i skimmed it because it was unreadable the way it was written and so i was just like i don't want to even get engaged at this point because like i've got too much shit going on my marriage is finally starting to fall apart it was like at the first beginning of that i'm dealing with that and we were looking

at buying a house which is why we bought the house by the way i didn't want to get the fuck out of that apartment once i got doxxed and people started showing up dude you know that's yeah i i had a similar story that went the other way right so i'm at home we're doing whatever home stuff the doorbell rings and i come there and it's a stranger who's like in my demographic i'll say a young guy like 18 years old or something and he goes and he's got his irish accent or something and he's like you know woody i came here all the way from ireland to see you that's my irish accent and and I'm just like oh my god like this is so amazing like what a super fan you know like he came here from Ireland to see me and he's like yeah yeah and I'm visiting

University of North Carolina like 30 minutes down the road but you know those two reasons and I'm like right right yeah he came from Ireland to see me but uh but he turned out to be really cool yeah it always went the same way, roughly. They'd be really nice. I'd do my best to ask them about themselves. We'd do a selfie and that was it. That's when it's helpful to have a very young demographic, I would imagine.

Like the people that would show up to your doorstep, Woody, versus the people who would show up at some other people's doorsteps. The demographic, even if you get a crazy fucking 18-year-old or 16-year-old who's brought there by a guardian or something like that, what's the worst that could happen? But when you've got, I don't know, some 40-year-old dude

who's become obsessed with you or whatever, that's when it's really scary, I feel like. Yeah, I'm thinking about it. I hope mentioning his name doesn't cause any issues. Hickok45 is really into gun issues. And he's, if people don't know, Hickok45 is an encyclopedia of gun knowledge, it seems. And he was a teacher, so he just sort of lays out and teaches you about these weapons. And I can only imagine that he has guys who are also, I don't know how old he is, I'm going to call him 50, who are also

50 who are like, I want to be your friend and maybe just a little off-center. I've watched Hickok45 videos where I've thought, I want to be this guy's friend. He seems awesome. The little things he'll know, he'll shoot his gun and be like,

the thing to know about this, a little bit of history, is actually in 45, they did another version post-war that had XYZ in preparation for Korea. Or what would be Korea. They didn't know anything. He'll have just like a litany of details. And I'm sitting there like learning something about a gun that I don't even care about. I'm like, really? That's fascinating.

He's a nice guy. I've met him four or five different times at various gun shows and meetups and stuff like that always been he's got a he's got a good sense of humor um he's he's very self-deprecating like uh and uh and and he's got he's definitely got a sillier side that i think he feels like he's not able to explore uh in his videos and uh and and whenever we kind of piled around a little bit like like that's kind of what we discussed like Like he's got videos where he's in like his smart car or whatever, like that ridiculous tiny little super lame car, like doing drive-bys on targets in the forest and stuff like that. But that's not really what people want from my guest. So, you know, he does those long format educational videos.

But he's definitely got a sillier side where I'm sure he'd like to be out there just smashing pumpkin men or something like that you know what's neat about it so his channel he covers all kinds of guns from modern things you'd find in a you know danish army or something to old school stuff and it's the like cowboy era that always captures my imagination i want some cowboy revolvers i need more lever action guns. It's like I feel like I saved a lot of money by not going down the wrong roads for me because on his channel, I just see what I like. It's cool. I want a big table with leather on it.

I'm sorry. Where did that come from? He has it. He has a big table with leather. He reloads and stuff, and he lays the guns down. I'm like, I need that. Got his nice loading table that's probably like six feet high because

he's a giant person. He's a giant person. But what's so impressive with him is he'll take a Ruger LCR, which is a hammerless, small self-defense revolver. And there's no hammer, so it's a full trigger pull every time. And he'll be like, let's see if we can hit the gong over there 200 yards away on my first shot with a ruger lcr and then

he'll like pop it twice and be like ah it cut someone's getting lucky today you know i couldn't do this on a normal day and it's like you son of a bitch like that's like wayne gretzky being like you know i put up 200 points this season and dominated everyone, but we all have luck sometimes. It's like, yeah, Wayne, but you did this last season too. He could edit, but it doesn't seem like it. I have a hockey question for you, Taylor. Did the Blues lose their coach like yesterday? Yes.

Yo is out. Mike Yo, who despite his last name, has zero Asian in him. I don't know how that happened. But Mike Yo is fired. Mike Yo, who, despite his last name, has zero Asian in him. I don't know how that happened. But Mike Yo is fired. He's gone, thank God, because we were going down the exact same path. But there were still a couple teams worse than you guys. No, there aren't. Two teams worse than us.

We're third worst in the whole league. In the whole league. I'm talking about your division, though. You were referred to as the cellar dwellers of the central division. I'm talking about your division, though. You were referred to as the cellar dwellers of the central division. Well, I think only Chicago is below us right now. But Chicago and St. Louis both sucked dick this year. Hopefully pedophile dick to help the children. If you're going to suck dick, at least prevent a child rape, you know?

We are fucking terrible this year i still watch most games but there there have been like actual games this year i'm like halfway through the third period or halfway through the second i'm like this isn't fun fuck this like why would i watch these guys not care so i'm hoping that the coaching switch kicks them into gear a bit and hopefully in the offseason we get hired joel quinville back who uh the blues actually have uh fired the four most successful head coaches in the nhl all of whom have gone on to win multiple stanley cups with others uh joel quinville now i think the third winningest most you know why don't you hire quinville now why does it have to be offseason i think that he is

like a clip came out of him on like the our hockey reddit is probably the reddit i use the most Why don't you hire Quinville now? Why does it have to be off-season? I think that he is... A clip came out of him on our hockey Reddit is probably the Reddit I use the most because they always have the highlights and everything pretty quick after it happens. And one of the big posts there this week was like, Coach Q, Coach Quinville, ex-coach of the Blackhawks, having fun post-firing.

And it was him in Chicago Bears attire taking shots with fans who were like, Is that Coach Q? Coach! Coach, I'll do a shot! They really line a bunch of shots on a hockey stick up, and then everybody takes them together. So he's having a good time. He's not going to want to come back to coaching this year, I wouldn't think. I think he's taking the year off. So hopefully

we can nab him in the offseason if he's willing to come back here. And for his legacy. I'm putting myself in his shoes. It sounds like he has quite the legacy. of legacy so coming in mid-season to like this losing team while it does give you a bit of a an opportunity to maybe turn the ship around i it's probably not something he's it's not it's not worth the risk right of of having such a just having a shit season if he wants to i... I really think it just comes down to

time. Him wanting to take some time off. Because he's already established his legacy. He just had a dynasty with Chicago Blackhawks. What other coaches would you like? Right now, there's no one I would like. The Oilers just fired Todd McLennan.

I don't remember how his name is spelled. I don't want him because he has done nothing. Fuck the Oilers! Is Peter Laviolette working right now or is he free? Laviolette's not working, I don't think. I don't follow the coach stuff nearly as closely as the player stuff.

The Oilers are a team who have never wronged the Blues in any way, but I still find a way to dislike them because somehow they suck all the time and they have connor mcdavid a generational player who is the best player in the nhl better than crosby now for sure i think that's pretty much agreed upon obviously yeah obviously because crosby sucks like totally not good uh but they have this guy and they still manage to suck and so it's like i don't know it's aggravating to watch a team get generated.

Because they had Gretzky during his best years, too. Like, they have that to look back on. So basically, any team that has any history at all to look back on and bitches it all now, I don't like. You've got some President's Cups. You had Al McGuinness. You had Brett Hull. We had Al McGuinness, Brett Hull, Wayne Gretzky, Chris Pronger, Pavel Dimitra, all of these people at the same time.

President's Cup, 99. President's Trophy, 99. First round knockout to the last place San Jose Sharks. So fun. I think Pronger went to the Stanley Cup with the Flyers. He actually won a Stanley Cup, I think, in 07 with the Anaheim ducks here's what i'm currently pissed off about when you guys so normally when you guys get to the guns and the sports i'm fucking done here's the fucking thing you guys started talking about guns and i don't know if you know this i finally started getting

into guns so i started shooting recently i went to a go check out my channel if you want to have a gun yet there's i we own a gun it's my roommate's gun i haven't purchased it it's it was a hand me down from his dad i think it's a ruger or luger or whatever it is is it a revolver but i went shot a 22 and the nine millimeter handgun a couple of different ones right um it's like the videos up on my channel youtube suppressed the shit out of a course uh but uh i fucking loved it holy fuck did i love it it was so much fun um i like it wasn't very safe so if you watch the video like a lot of negative feedback but now i'm like fuck i'm no longer scared of guns now i'm fucking into this shit now they're talking about guns i'm like oh yeah tell me more about these guys they're like now let's talk about some fucking coach of some fucking team that does some bullshit in some sport i don't know what the fuck you're talking about guns i'm like oh yeah tell me more about these guns you're like now let's talk about some fucking coach of some fucking team that does some bullshit in some sport i don't know what the fuck you're talking about let's rewind a little bit let's let's go

back to the gun i feel you crazy gun shit like you need a gun first of all you need a gun let so let's talk about what your first gun should be and like like what would you say your price range is i i was very comfortable shooting the 22 it was like shooting a fucking pea shooter perfect so so am i if i buy a gun for hum security and i get a 22 that's got enough stopping power no where some shithead shows up i can put them down right no no um it depends on the scenario it seems like your uh hypothetical assailant is going to be crazed i think we can all agree on that so so when you added crazed with perhaps like like drug induced psychosis like 22 is probably not the best thing for home defense you might want the nine millimeter right but because i was a little more uncomfortable shooting that for fun

yeah and that and that makes sense um but but for plinking and for fun you want a ruger 22 caliber semi-automatic pistol okay now they make these things it's like a honda civic a lot of guns are like honda civics in this way in that you can get a plain jane one for i don't know 350 to 450 dollars or something like that that'll be very very nice and it'll be like a like a hammer it does every job well and it's fun to plink with, and it's cheap to shoot. The Ruger Mark IV is probably what they're up to now. It's a semi-automatic thing.

I like them in stainless steel because they look nice, but you can also buy them customized so that they're all tricked out, and they're various colors, and the barrels are fluted, which means there's parts of the barrel cut out so that it's lighter, and they've got colors and the barrels are are fluted which means there's like parts of the barrel cut out so that it's lighter and they've got special uh magazines they've got

special triggers special uh uh cocking mechanisms in the back special grips all of that stuff right but that is the pistol and the gun in general that i would recommend to just about anyone as their first purchase if they're not going to use it for anything other than targets and plinking and fun now if you ever wanted to go into hunting i really like the pump shotguns like the remington 870 pump shotgun is 300 or something like that it will literally last a lifetime i mean 30 years of heavy use no No problem. You can disassemble and reassemble it incredibly simply, and it just works. It just works, as Todd Howard would say.

But it's a 12-gauge shotgun, right? So it's got a wallop to it. But the bonus is you can hunt birds with it. You can hunt deer with it. It's excellent for home defense. You can shoot beer cans with it and watermelons with it when It's excellent for home defense. You can shoot beer cans with it and watermelons with it when you're being silly. It really covers every one of the bases for a firearm.

But like I said, if I were recommending one for just fun and it sounded like you enjoyed the.22, the.22 is also so cheap to shoot. And you can order these bullets from a company called, I think it's Piney Creek or Piney Mountain, that you can order tracers. And then it's literally like a Star Wars blaster. You turn your.22 pistol into a Star Wars blaster and you see every bullet as soon as it comes out of the barrel. Oh, shit. That sounds fun as shit. Yeah.

Yeah. They're very fucking cool. Can you shoot those at gun ranges? No. No. No. You'd need to go out onto some public land or something like that, or some sort of friendly shooting range. It's like a buddy's field or something like that.

So perhaps that's not a good recommendation for everyone. But if you have access to your own place to shoot, gun ranges in general frown on things like armor-piercing ammo, incendiary ammo, steel core ammo dragon tracing ammo anything that's gonna mess with their liability and their expensive uh backstops targets and and and stuff like that um so so you if i'm summing this up you put them in two guns right a 22 ruger of some sort and a remington 870 that's exactly what i would do it really depends on how you feel about shooting a 12-gauge shotgun. Now, I was shooting a 12-gauge shotgun when I was 70 years old. I just put the stock in my armpit and kind of leaned down and used it that way, and I could handle the recoil then.

But for some people, it's big and loud and scary, and it hurts. Yeah, see, what gave me my anxiety for guns? I mean, obviously the fact that I always had suicidal tendencies and suicidal thoughts, so I didn't want to have a gun around. I'm pretty far past believing I'd ever act on it, so I don't feel uncomfortable anymore. But originally, when Boy Scouts, they gave me a little.22 to shoot, a little.22 rifle. I'm like, oh, this is great. This is fun.

And then they gave me, I guess, a 9mm or a slightly larger one to shoot. And I'm like, oh, this is great. This is fun. And then he gave me like a, I guess a nine millimeter or like a slightly larger one to shoot. And I'm like, oh, this is great. A little bit of kickback, but nothing bad. And then they thought it would be funny to give me a shotgun, but not warn me that I need to shoot it different than I would a rifle and that I was going to get a shitload of kickback from it. And so it floored me and I dropped the fucking thing

and it scared the shit out of me. And then they panicked because I dropped it. So the rest of my life, I'm like, I'm done with guns. I'll never hold a gun again. Fuck guns guns and then i was hanging out with that girl for a while and she's like let's go to a shooting range let's make a content let's face one of your biggest fears and i'm like oh my god i'm no longer scared but i don't think i'll ever be comfortable with a shotgun again you'd be surprised it really depends on the ammunition that you're putting into the shotgun because it runs the gambit there There are very light loads, very light ammunition you

can put in there. I don't think I'm all that unique, but I can hold the full-size shotgun with one hand and shoot it just fine, and the recoil is like this. What do you look for? How do you know which box is a light load? Asking for listeners. It is pretty complex. It's stuff that I have memorized, but like, so there's a few variables that make up a 12 gauge shotgun round. If we're just talking about 12 gauge, there's the length of the cartridge. There's two and three quarters, there's three inch and there's three and a half inch. Most of the time it's two and three quarters inch. That's the standard. Three inch used to be magnum, but now three and a half inches is sort of considered super magnum.

It's usually used for like geese and really heavy and deer and even turkey and stuff like that. Two and three quarters in length. Then there's the amount of shot, a projectile that's actually inside of the shell. And that ranges from seven eighths of an ounce all the way up, if you're talking the magnum loads to like two ounces or something like that generally speaking an ounce is a is a is just fine for a target load for a fucking around bullshit kind of shotgun load uh or an ounce and one eighth or an ounce and one quarter and as you step up you notice that extra you totally notice an eighth of an ounce difference in the projectile that's coming out of the shotgun and then there's the velocity velocity is very important as well velocity times mass equals force right so that and that's true on the force that's being delivered as much as it's true on the force that's being

delivered to you in recoil so the velocity is important now there are some shotgun shells that are made for like target shooting i guess like and they go like a thousand feet per second which is very slow in my opinion but there's some of them that are up to 1300 feet per second and that's very fast it's a it's a big difference to step up from the two you can it's a noticeable difference in both felt recoil and in performance so if you were picking a light load like what would that combo be between the three aspects you just talked about it'd be be like an ounce going to 11 or 1150, 1200 feet per second in a two and three quarter ounce shell. It'd be the cheap ones. Basically typically just a light load or it could be, no, it could be, it could be anything, right? Because

it depends on the particular bird you're shooting. Um, you know, if you're shooting doves, I've, I've definitely seen a Dale Earnhardt had these, a junior had these special shells. They had an eight on them, which is race car numbers. And it was seven eighths of an ounce going really fast. You know, that was kind of the selling point. Dale Earnhardt, I get it. The race car driver's like, yeah, seven eighths of an ounce, small package, but it's going fast. And it was like 1350 feet per second.

We're like, ah, this is good for ski. This is cool. But so like bird shells, it depends per second. We're like, ah, this is good for skiing. This is cool. So, like, bird shells, it depends on the bird, right? So, like, doves are kind of heavier, and then crows and then ducks and stuff like that. Like, some of the duck loads are scary powerful, and the turkey loads are good enough to be self-defense loads,

in my opinion, sometimes. Like, they're outrageous. When you started, I thought you were going to point Boogie towards a full-sized 9mm. Yeah, he sounded like he really enjoyed the 22. The 9mm was enough kickback to where I was pretty nervous about it. Do you know what you were shooting?

No. If you go bring up that video right now, you'll be able to see what we shot. Here's what I wanted to say yeah if you have a smaller nine millimeter something that someone might carry for like self-defense in their purse or their you know in a holster it kicks a lot because that that gun is light it's meant to be carried all the time and not shot a bunch right you have a full size nine millimeter something you might keep next to your bed, the gun is so heavy that the bullet doesn't kick it back into your hand

a lot. The SIG P226 full-size handgun that I have that shoots 9, it really doesn't kick much at all because of exactly what you said. It's just too heavy. It beats most of the kick, whereas you get a little I know it's not a 9, but a little Derringer or something.

Yeah, that's gonna kick your what about what about a rifle i mean i wouldn't have a problem getting like a decent gun cabinet and keeping a rifle and a shotgun in it would you recommend a rifle for home defense first of all the 22 that you shot is the one i recommended that's uh that's the cheapest 22 uh no it's a pistol oh yeah yeah it's yeah. He's shooting the Ruger 22 caliber pistol. That's one of the cheaper ones. There are others that would feel nicer in your hand and look nicer as well. Because that one felt really nice.

Yeah, it felt really good. But by the time we got to the 9mm, he's like, the way you're holding it, you're going to blow your fucking thumbs off. And I'm like, what? Because then I'm nervous again, right? Yeah, he should say that. Yeah, that's not good. What was he saying? Like, keep your thumb out from behind he said right yeah and i was like well clearly but like then i was so nervous about

how to actually hold it and i'm like i'm doing this because now i want i want your thumb one thumb here and one thumb in the back and i'm like all right but now i'm not fucking nervous about holding the fucking thing why you know but of course obviously he's there to teach me you know we don't really show him but yeah he didn't could have been a better tour guide into the world of guns. Yeah, that's a very aggressive way to start. He was pretty civil. I mean, I walked in there with no gun knowledge, and he handed me a couple

guns, so he was pretty cool about it, honestly. I had the same experience, but the guy was great. It's hard for me to tell what kind of 9mm pistol it is from the angle or anything, but yeah, you can tell you're worried about it. You're leaning all the way back and standing in a position where it's controlling you.

If you really lean into it and get more aggressive about it, like the recoil is lesser and you're able to control it more, you could probably feel that recoil going through your whole body and pushing you back on your heels a little bit. If you're more leaning forward and more weight on your front foot and all that stuff like like it's unnoticeable almost like like and and what he was saying like like it's not gonna blow your thumb off but like right here on the top of your the back of your thumb it'll scrape it it'll cut it it'll draw a little blood but you know i've seen it happen to dudes and and usually they're

embarrassed because they're gun guys. And it's like, this ain't supposed to happen to me. I got bit by my Glock and they'll just fucking rub some dirt on it. It's not a serious injury or anything. But, yeah, you know, the 9mm can be scary if you're just getting into it. And if it's something that bothers you, then you shouldn't own it, you know. You should maybe practice with it a little bit more, like maybe step up to it eventually. But initially, that Ruger 22 pistol is the mainstay. It's the first thing I started shooting

as a pistol as a five-year-old. It's the way to go. As far as a rifle, the possibilities are endless. There are bolt-action rifles and semi-automatic rifles. There are pump rifles and lever-action rifles. But what I would probably recommend is the one that everybody says is the monster of them all, the, the man killer, the AR-15, right? Cause you can get a cheap AR-15 for four or $500 or something like that. And you, again, it's like a Honda Civic. You could, you could get that. It definitely looks the part for sure. I mean, that would scare the fuck out of somebody coming in your house. Oh, for sure. For for sure the problem with that is for home defense is those bullets go through stuff like but they could potentially go you you might not hit the guy

let's be honest yeah it'll go through your wall could kill your roommate could go commit could get lucky and you could miss the guy go through your roommates wall miss him go through his exterior wall hit your neighbor Because they because because ar-15s are kind of like laser guns and a little bit They'll go through three or four drywall walls unless they hit brick or a couple of two by fours They're not just gonna stop in their tracks. Well, you just talked me out of an AR Yeah, yeah, yeah shoot up my neighbors for fuck's sake You absolutely could and then you get in that that horrible liability scenario of like well yeah that guy did break into boogie's

house but boogie killed his neighbor who was asleep in bed the shotgun on the other hand that it's got much it's got all the force but not the velocity and not the uh the penetration so it'll hit a drywall wall and it'll pitter out and like scatter on the other side so if i'm using spread um would you recommend loading a shotgun kept at home for self-defense would you recommend like um like some buckshot for that i mean because that's still gonna have stopping power right i mean obviously slugs are gonna put them down but uh the slugs are just gonna make it harder to hit him and it's it's actually gonna penetrate through everybody says buckshot almost all this range birdshot's gonna fuck you up that's what i was

about to say everybody recommends buckshot but like i i don't know look i've never been to war with a gun i've never been in a self-defense scenario where i had to shoot someone or anything like that it's like like but i have hunted a lot and i've shot deer at every range you can imagine i've shot coyotes with shotguns, using buckshot, birdshot, turkey shot, everything in between. And I found that birdshot at close range drops a deer to the ground and the deer dies in about two and a half seconds flat. And I would imagine that the gun battle is going to happen in your bedroom. So to me, it just feels like a powerful bird shot is good

enough certainly a turkey shell but like like if you want to appease anyone that's gonna be looking over your shoulder be like so what kind of man killer bullets you got because i got the ones that'll kill him set him on fire and then a radio his family won't even be able to bury him in a proper cemetery a lot of people feel that way they really want to soup this thing up but but but practically speaking i've killed a lot of fucking animals with shotguns and all of the bullets that i've never shot anything with a shotgun to be like ah it wasn't powerful enough because i mean to be honest with you if there were non-lethal options that would keep me safe, those are options I would look at. But the reality – because I don't want to fucking kill – even somebody who's made the mistake, some lunatic is like, fuck Boogie and fuck his politics and fuck him.

I'm going to murder him. I don't even want to kill that guy. I don't want to kill nobody. There are not non-lethal options that are reliable enough to risk your life on in the hopes of preserving theirs right that's what i would say if there's a reason that cops carry a taser and a sidearm it's it's because that taser can be deployed in very specific scenarios but if you watch cop videos they fail continuously if you watch cops he's rubber bullets out of shotguns if that guy's jacked up if he is what I've seen scenarios We're like the guy's wife will leave PCP or some shit. Well, or he's just upset. He's just very upset

Just be the wife left him Determination is what it is. The guy will be in the street holding a blade no shirt. His wife has left him He's ready to die. He's and they start pegging him With these rubber shotgun shell rounds. And he's just, you can tell they hurt. He's not unresponsive, but he's not undeterred either. He's not broken. He's still ready to slash with that knife. So I feel like for home defense, you just go lethal.

So while Kyle's educating everyone, Boogie mentioned he'd get a gun cabinet, which raised alarms with me. Now, I have a special needs kid in the house, so my stuff goes in gun safes. Everything I have is locked, locked. Is a cabinet the right solution for him? I might be too biased towards safe. What do you keep a gun in? And he has parties.

He's an adult. Like, what I would recommend is if there are going to be people in the house that you don't trust, that you wouldn't trust to leave in your house alone with your gun if that's ever going to be a scenario then there should be some way to lock the weapon away now there are trigger guards that's the cheapest option that basically make renders the weapon inoperable unless you have the key the code the combination etc um and and that would do the trick as far as safety but it doesn't prevent them from stealing your weapon. If they steal your weapon, go home with a hammer, knock the thing off, and then do harm with it, perhaps you're liable to some degree. Probably not, because they've gone through two or three steps of your deterrent to achieve that set effect.

But still, you can get a locking safe that's not like some crazy spin the big dial and punch in a digital lock thing for a few hundred dollars um you can go to tractor supply store like a big sporting goods store i went to dick's the other day and they had big safes that that that are locking with steel walls and they're like twelve hundred dollars fourteen hundred dollars something like that that may be overkill for you i feel like if you're in not in an adult household where you're there most of the time It's stick the thing in the closet although. We're saying all this publicly right now so to come full circle That since we're saying it publicly and and we may be Alluding that boogie's got a shotgun under his bed right?

But then if you're home if you're home home and this is for home defense i will say this if you're in bed at night and you hear a window break or you hear or you're all alone and you hear the door being forced open the last thing you want to be doing is fumbling with a code a key one of those high school locker style spinny bullshit things you want to load it at the last second because you kept it unloaded yeah you want to be able to lay hands on that thing and be armed in in in seconds because that might be all you have and i and again that's sort of the mindset that a lot of guys who are like yep and now he's irradiated like they have but but just because someone just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean that when they go outside and they say it's raining

doesn't mean it's not raining. Sometimes stupid people are right about things. Sometimes ignorant people are right about things. I think this is one of them. If you're in a scenario where you don't have children in the home, you don't have irresponsible adults in the home, and you generally are at that home keeping things secure with your

person, then I want the gun loaded and close to me. That's how my roommate sleeps with his. generally are at that home keeping things secure with your person then i want the gun loaded and close to me i mean that's how my roommate sleeps with his it's it's i know exactly where it is i know exactly how he keeps it it's loaded ready to go it's not in a gun safe it's it's tucked away it's not obvious where it is but it's he can easily if he's asleep he can have it in his hand in 30 seconds 20 seconds just i don't want to provide the counter argument you know just so boogie can make his own decision and the listeners. I picture you doing these magic the gathering parties.

I picture you... Do you ever have... Hey, everyone, throw your coats on the guest room bed or something. There's people in your house who you wouldn't trust alone in your house. Guys who go to the bathroom and might go exploring. I don't know.

Do the people that you hang out with sometimes bring their kids? If that's the case, locking the gun is essential you know yeah you're right you're right absolutely right yeah as far as like the home defense itself like i think bill burr even had like a bit about this a few specials ago where like a lot of people who aren't familiar with guns want to go with the handgun because it's the littlest it seems the least intimidating you know it's just it feels more manageable if you're in a high stress situation it's much much easier as a gun amateur to wield a shotgun than it is a handgun like that is the most disservice firearm related thing that hollywood has done is people think shooting handguns is easy it is not go to your range if you haven't shot a handgun. Send that thing out only like seven yards.

And see how you do on that static paper target. I guarantee you're not going to be nearly as good as your COD avatar. Like it's not that easy. Whereas with a shotgun, you're keeping the barrel away from you. You've got both hands to stabilize it. Like it's just a smarter decision for defending your home. You know, I'm sure Kyle has lots of opinions. But I think like there's a reason the shotgun does so well.

And the reason the shotgun is the chosen weapon. Shotgun. Shotgun for home defense in almost any scenario, even if you're a fucking expert with a pistol. Like at seven yards, I could put every single bullet in a quarter, but that doesn't mean that if someone's running down

a hallway at me with a butcher's knife already covered in someone's blood. I'm not even his first stop of the evening. It doesn't mean that I'm going to have those same skills. You know, I'd like to, you'd like to think so, but maybe not. Whereas you just kind of point the shotgun at a bad guy. And that's, that's kind of enough because at 10 yards, it's, it's, it's shooting a pattern of death. That's as big as a basketball

essentially imagine you're shooting basketballs at someone rather than shooting not even a dime because bullets are smaller than dimes you know bullets are plus the length of the barrel makes it really easy to point you know absolutely two hands with an ar-15 or F2000 at 25 yards pretty reliably. But if I have a pistol in my hand with a 4-inch barrel as opposed to whatever it is, 18, it's not as reliable. And then the last thing, this is an experience I wish everyone who thinks they're good at shooting, do it under a clock. Because I can hit paper targets. I'm not special. I don't mean to act like I'm some great shot, but I'm pretty good at paper targets.

When I take all my time and I fire once every five seconds and stuff like that, I've competed in shooting a couple of times and I was the worst there. When you put a clock on you and add some stress and a timeline and all of a sudden,

I'm not as good as I was before. Take that, make it combat, and I assume it's times 10. Sure, absolutely. And I've never been one to have a big head about that and be like, well, those watermelons didn't stand a chance today. Who's to say a Cambodian hit squad would do it better than 85 pounds of melon? I would say that they will and that i'll be terrified and that i'll be missing a lot and that the more i miss you know in a video game you ever start missing a guy in cod and it just makes you want to spray more and more and more because you just want that you want the engagement over with i feel like that's that i feel like that's

not just a video game response that's a a human being response. So, shotgun all the way. Although, accidentally going prone behind a barrel is probably just a video game thing. I drop shot when I defend my home. Every time. I'm prone the whole time. Actually, like, when they come, when they break in, I actually jump

crouch through the window. So I come right through, blow their head off. And Boogie, there are other shotguns in the 12-gauge. crouch through the window. So they come right through, blow their head off. Boogie, there are other shotguns in the 12-gauge. That's something that not a ton of people know because Hollywood has popularized the 12-gauge, and in general, it's the most popular one. There are ladies'

shotguns, as I think of them. 20-gauge would be just fine. 20-gauge is a big step down in recoil and in cost and in size of the weapon, and it's just as effective when you put the buckshot in there. It's what size? 20 gauge.

20 gauge, right. And I could go into a whole complicated thing explaining what the gauges actually mean, but it's irrelevant. It's basically the size of the bullet, right? I'm gonna have to do it now. Okay, but you're gonna hear a really dark story i've never told anywhere that's so fucking dark so right about the time of the divorce i was having

like a lot of suicidal ideology and i have not told the story anywhere else i should not tell it i am not gonna tell us i'm fucking i went to walmart and i'm like hey ma'am can i see one of those junior shotguns and he's like yeah and my goal was just to see if i took the shotgun home with me just in case i decided i wanted to end it which i considered yeah whether or not i could hold this and get it in my mouth bolted trigger yeah i'm gonna stop giving you gun advice at this point okay i don't know i'm just kidding at dick's sporting goods with the barrel in his mouth like yeah this will do right and so and so i'm like i look at the gun and i'm like okay this is i this is not a good decision i'm making right now i need to give this

man back this gun but that is the day i became aware that there were multiple shotguns because my roommate who was with me um who was obviously trying to just help me survive the divorce and survive everything he looks over and he's like that was like a 20 gauge and i'm like yeah and he goes look if you buy one you really want the 12 gauge and i don't know if he meant to like you don't want to just be injured you're not gonna injure yourself with a 20 gauge. Oh, I did it. I gave him the advice.

Damn it. No, trust me. Not only will the 20 gauge blow the top of your head off, you'll find that the smaller trigger, much more manageable. I think my roommate was literally just more like, man, you're not going to kill yourself with a 20 gauge. You need the 12 gauge, man. Get the 12 gauge.

There's still a junior shotgun with the 12 gauge, okay? Like, that's what I think he was saying. Nah, man, the 20 gauge would work fine for home defense and all that, and really everything. And I think I can do this quickly, but the gauges are complicated and overcomplicated. It's an old school gauging system of measuring these things. Essentially, what they do is they say, a ball of pure lead, the diameter of the barrel, how many of those would it take to equal a pound? And in the case of a 12 gauge, 12 lead balls, the diameter of the barrel equals a pound.

So the higher the number goes, the smaller the barrel is. So a 28-gauge is rather small. It's less than half the size of a 12-gauge. And you might say, oh, yeah, he's got the 28-gauge, much more power from the 12, but that's not the case at all. It's a very light shotgun. But there's a 410 shotgun. There's not the case at all. It's a very light shotgun. But there's a.410 shotgun. There's a.28 gauge. Is that called a.410 gauge?

It's just called a.410 because in the case of the.410, it has nothing to do with gauge anymore. Now it's the diameter of the barrel. It's a.41 caliber barrel. Do they have those in long guns or are those just like the judge handguns? Yeah, they have them in long guns too. That those just like the judge handguns? Yeah, they have them in long guns, too. That's the one they often give to children. If the child's a bitch. Now, how's the.410 for suicide, Kyle?

Is that a good suicide gun? I'm not going to answer that question. And then on the other side of the scale, there's guns above the 12-gauge. There is a 10-gauge. I've shot the 10-gauge. It's very scary and there there used to be eight gauge and a six gauge that were used for things like elephant and other big game and things like that but um but yeah you could do a 12 gauge and a and a 20 gauge or an 870 you'd be shocked at just how manageable it is you know you throw some

ear protection on um you know prepare yourself and and promise you, it's nothing you can't handle. Last gun talk question. Which caliber or which round is more deadly, the.50 cal or the Remington 700? I think that's what it might be called, the 700, Nitro 700. You're not familiar with the Nitro 700, maybe? No, I am. That's the elephant gun yeah I don't know

it would be like which is more deadly getting hit with a cement truck or a bus fair enough I was trying to measure my penis here Kyle yeah the 700 Nitro is probably delivering more like foot pounds of

oh we lost Kyle right there Yeah, the 700 nitro is probably delivering more like foot-pounds of... Oh, we lost Kyle right there. ...like what's being done with a measurement like that, I would imagine. But the 50 BMG is like, whatever, like 700 grains, you know, going over 3,000 feet per second. They use it to take out Jeeps and radar dishes and stuff like that. So pick your poison. Cement truck or bus. I just found this video of a four gauge shotgun that's only 20 seconds long that the guy shoots.

Yeah, let's watch it, but I can't imagine what the purpose for this weapon could be. I think the purpose is to knock you on your ass. Let's see if this guy's a bitch or not. Hold on, I need to resize it. this guy's a bitch or not. Hold on. I need to resize it. All right.

Are we ready? Yep. Ready, set, play. He shouldered it. He's got his stance done well. Good God. He handled it very well. He handled it very well.

That's very well? yeah did you see how he was leaning forward a ton yeah he handled it well that's not what I thought you were gonna say nah he's a smaller he's a smaller guy that guy's probably like 5'9 and he's an older fella

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and they keep up with the times. Yeah, man. Good stuff. Well, if we're done with gun talk, I think I had something ridiculous. I have a Florida man who had sex with a mini pony hey guys before you do that i'm gonna go ahead and head out if i'm gonna make any hope my stream tonight before you get into the really weird shit i should probably go

a little turned on he was afraid he was gonna get this topic's gonna get me into trouble if i tell people about my pony story. Where I start masturbating straight up on PKA. Because man, like I said, I'm single now. I'm fucking horny and shit. I can't bear it. Look out ponies!

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on, guys. Boogie, before you go, thanks so much for coming on. You always do a good job. You make the show good. We'll see you again in a hot second. Really appreciate it. See you in a hot second, fools. There, Boogie. What were you saying, Kyle? I have a See you in a hot second, fools. All right. Bye. There, Boogie. All right.

So what were you saying, Kyle? I have a man who had sex with a miniature pony, and I also have a Moroccan woman who killed her lover and cooked him. How did he have sex with the pony? Was he the giver or the receiver? He was the giver. No, a little more respect. And, you know, they came at him, him and they were like how could you do this?

How could you do this to this miniature pony? He's like well. I did it many times But he's let off with that well first of all the first time this happened He's the first time he called me and that's exactly what happened and but but he reassured them by saying it was always safe sex He always wore a condom when he penetrated the miniature pony and i i found this website hilarious when you fuck animals yeah and like the funniest part to me is like i don't is that not how you do it taylor i mean i just it never crossed my mind that someone with the mentality of like i'm gonna go fuck that animal and be like wait you gotta be safe you make me feel like i've been doing it wrong all this time. Pony hybrids.

We don't want any Bojacks running around. This is the second time you king shamed. I fuck my ponies with a condom. Raw. A raw dog at pony all day long. So yeah, the funniest part to me about this article, if you look at this, is when you go into the photo spread, there's a picture of his his mugshot and then there's a picture of the pony and i felt like it was disrespectful to post the pony's photo uh without blurring its face out like they would never do this to any other sex assault victim okay i they just just smeared this

pony's good name on the internet right here just just look at this and the pony looks sad face of someone who just got caught fucking a pony the pony has the face of someone who just got fucked by a guy wearing a rubber i i just don't know what to think about this poor this poor poor pony i feel bad for the pony nicholas so when taylor said he had the face of a guy who just got caught Fucking a pony I was doing the layout and stuff I look over and I'm like yeah Dude this guy is a pony fucker

If I was on him I could be on an elevator in the mall With that dude and I would know that he was a pony fucker What if he was like this Yeah Check out the pony's face that is someone who hasn't gotten over the the like the ptsd associated with sexual assault yet that poor pony is is struggling nah he always looks like this treatment no i don't know he's like

his tail's all straggly. This pony could be fucked on his own terms. Wait, is it a boy or a girl pony? Is he a gay bestiality guy or a straight bestiality guy? It doesn't say. And frankly, I guess it does matter. I don't know if it matters. I don't know.

Of course it doesn't matter. Wait. You're still fucking an animal. Kyle? Yeah. Actually, both of you guys have you know country roots is a miniature horse different than a pony yeah i think because this is not a oh it's a miniature pony yeah it says miniature horse in the body so i i really feel like we started

fucking like real horses and he was just so emasculated he's like fuck this i'm i'm i'm gonna fuck something smaller he's like you like this, I'm gonna fuck something smaller. He's like, you like that? Do ya? And the horse is like, huh? What? Oh shit, while I'm fucking, you're making me feel bad. Nothing worse than a dead fish horse in the stall.

I love that we don't know if it's a boy or girl pony and it's name is Jackie so it really could be either. Shit, is it an I or a Y? It doesn't help. Poor pony. Man, I always wonder with these people, what percentage of them are genuinely attracted to animals,

and what percentage are tired of not being able to get laid, and they rationalize fucking animals you know what I mean there's gotta be a line there cause some of these guys legit just if a woman came up to them and was like hey you wanna fuck they'd be like eh no not really I have a horse at home but then

other ones are probably just tired of not getting laid do you have an anal plug with a tail cause it's I need that I think there's a third category, right? I think that for some people it's a kink, right? And so the act of having sex with an animal is the turn on. Okay? Like perhaps it's a humiliation thing.

How dirty and forbidden it is. How dirty and forbidden it is. That's what's driving them to it. Then there is perhaps a group who is genuinely physically attracted to the animal. They're like, it's a beautiful horse. It's sexy. Look at the lines, the curve of its nape, or whatever.

Look at how fast it can carry goods from place to place. You know, they're genuinely attracted. You know, they used to use these for moving things across the nation, not just fucking. Put the plow back on, honey. It gets me hot.

And then I guess there's the guys who are just like, it's this or nothing. Yeah, there's definitely people like that. The auto blow burnt out last week and Bessie's out there calling. We're here in the desert and there's no ladies around, but there are sheep.

So... I think it's camel. And goat. Mr. Cultural Appropriation. Whatever the thing is. Get it right. They fuck goats. Kyle, I have no words for the shame that I'm feeling.

You're bringing shame on other people's families. Have you ever seen the Apache gunship footage of them catching the Arabic guy fucking the goat? They're up, they're in the air. The US, like, whatever, Air Force, Marines, or whatever, I don't know who flies the Apaches,

but they're in the fucking, looking with the infrared, looking for bad guys, and they're like, yep, we got a Coach 17, got a Haji fucking a goat. like, yep, yep. We got a Coach 17. We got a Haji fucking a goat. Yep, yep, he's giving it to him good. Well, he looks to be military age. Yes, he has an RPG.

All right, engage it, engage it. I'm pretty sure they killed the goat fucker in the video. I don't remember. I was laughing so hard at the goat fucking. Oh, I remember you watched that on the show years ago. It's hilarious. I found it. But you know who the true victim is in that is the poor goat that goat didn't deserve to die as it's being raped that's a good point at first i was like how do you know the goat wasn't down

so i need to watch this without audio it's playing the one i found is playing music but terrible terrible music are you guys ready wish to get seed yeah ready set play and if the music changes i would like to hear the guy's conversation if that changes then let me know yeah i'm just letting it play without audio we could probably talk over quite a bit since there is no audio and it seems like this is gonna take them a moment to catch up to this they're still looking for the goat fucker now. They're scouring the area. This is where our tax dollars go. There he is. Oh, he's giving it to him. Oh, there he is.

I'm looking at the wrong guy. No, no, there's a guy already romantically involved with the goat. I got next. Jesus Christ. His friend catches him fucking a goat, and he's like, oh, you have found me. He is not slowing down a bit now that his friend is there.

Ahmed's giving it to the little Gary again. Oh, man. He's really going at it. He's hunched over the goat. And the goat's trying to get away. Look at that. The other guy's helping him restrain the goat a little. Wait, are they switching up on the goat. And the goat's trying to get away. Look at that. The other guy's helping him

restrain the goat a little. Wait, are they switching up on the goat? Did I just see they switched? Is it a different guy? No, same one's delivering the goat fuck. At first I thought, how do we know it's not a woman on all fours? Look, this is not...

Because the silhouette of a goat and the silhouette of a woman are slightly different you're right you're right well at first the the goat was like in front of the guy and you didn't get a good view this is clearly a goat oh yeah it's a goat it's a goat you know i've seen enough of it now that i know it's not a sheep it's not a donkey it's a goat it's not a ram. Poor goat. You can tell it was a goat when it tried to quadrupedally walk away. Usually women quickly hop on two legs

as their mode of motivation. Now two of his friends are there. He is showing no shame. Now just to get into the mindset of this goat fucker, if he has this little shame about his goat fucking, it must be such a common thing there

that it's as if his two buddies just walked up and he was playing with a fidget spinner or something like that. Like, yeah, what's up? Yeah, that's surprising to me, how little response the guy gave. Oh, he just passed the goat off, I think. Because now the guy on the left is just passed the goat off, I think. I'm all... Because now the guy on the left is dealing with the goat, holding it down.

Oh, the goat made a run for it. Well, this doesn't seem like consensual bestiality. Definitely not. That goat does not want any part of this. All right, so now assailant number two likes a little privacy with his goat fuck. You can tell because he picked the goat up and carried it off behind a wall.

I think that's that. This is being respectful. Oh, the video's almost over. Yeah, so they don't... I thought they killed the goat guy, but I guess not. No, I guess that's not a... They're like, can I engage? They're like, no, he's just fucking a goat.

That's what they do here. All right. Let's eat that's the Geneva Convention. If we catch you mid-animal fuck, we get to shoot you. And that goes for our guys, too. If you see a U.S. Marine abusing the cloaca of a chicken or something, any kind of animal, you've got to stop that. They'd better.

We all know chickens don't have sex. They wouldn't even know what was happening. They'd be so confused. You know what? You're right. They might actually like it. It'll be a whole new... Do not fuck. Taylor, lay out the reference that Kyle just made. The callback to a year

ago. It's like arguably the dumbest thing I've ever said and that's a feat because I've said some really retarded stuff on here I said like chickens don't fuck and then as like the was coming

out of my mouth I was like no it went right over my head I didn't think anything of it retard and then immediately Kyle's like we're not moving past this It went right over my head. I didn't think anything of it. We're all together, retards. And then immediately, Kyle's like, Ted, we're not moving past this yet. Chickens do what the heck fucking is.

I'm a retard. Yeah. Some people say that chickens just scream out of the ground, which, of course, is ridiculous. Some people say there are no female chickens dude you know what we should do the wrap-up of the fitness talk yes oh good i'd forgotten about that yeah yes so um oh i i have a chart i can show that uh that kind of lays out how it went, I think. I'm going to give you guys the same link so we're on the same page.

I think this shows it kind of well. Maybe I can make it bigger. This is the No Rest November Daily Effort Graph. And Kyle, you can see him in the red. He led everything except the last update. I'm the blue guy in second place through pretty much all of it except the last update.

And Taylor is orange where he just passes Chiz at the very end. And I'm kind of proud of me. I don't know. I've had some little... All of us worked our asses off't know. I've had some little... You worked your fucking ass... All of us worked our asses off doing this.

Yes! I can't believe, like, the totals that you and Kyle put up over the course of, like, 12, 13, however many days it was. Two weeks, yeah. It's bananas. It's insane.

Like, you guys have got to be, like, some of the top 10 all time on the month. I don't see how we couldn't be. There's no way you're not. I would love to find out. Woody showed us some woman who got some insane amount of Mets, but I'm not sure that's even real because she had so much red. It just seemed insane.

I'm looking at the graph. The 18th is when I hurt my foot the first time and it just got progressively worse. If you didn't watch PKN, essentially, I spent most of the contest running. It got rainy one night and I was doing sort of sprints back and forth and trying to stay out of the rain because i was cold and some something happened to my achilles tendon i i don't know the difference between a sprain and a strain

i've sprained my ankle before i've broken my ankle before this is oh no he froze maybe he'll come right back and so i started using an elliptical then i couldn't i couldn't run anymore and i had to land just so that like it wouldn't engage my achilles at all and then that strained something like on the top of my foot so by the end of this thing i was like laying in bed and it was just hurting continuously and it's just hurting continuously. And it's just a sharp pain, too, which worried me. Not a soreness, like an injury, incoming pain. A sharp pain implies stop doing that.

I got up a little while ago. I don't know if you guys heard it, but when I got up to go get the watches, I don't know. Go back and listen to that moment and see if you hear it. I got two steps to the door and it hurt. And then my left knee locked up because I was trying to compensate and it like hyperextended. And I all but collapsed in the floor. I hit the door and the door flung against the wall. Like I, uh, I feel terrible that we couldn't continue doing this thing. But once I was essentially out because like like I couldn't, make no mistake, Woody was putting up so many meps

that there's no way I could like keep up with my arms and upper body. It's just an impossibility. Like running, I felt like I could keep up. Jogging, the elliptical, it was like shit,

this is really hard to get all these meps that Woody's getting on an elliptical. But like once like i i literally couldn't i i i limp when i walk at this point i've been you know i tell people about how you had to drive all day yesterday something is not strenuous as driving um what do you mean the cruise control stuff oh yeah so when i change the pitch on my foot at all it's very very painful so i just put the car on cruise control and i drive with cruise control for hours for hours yesterday in atlanta traffic and it was it keeps you it keeps you focused it keeps you focused when you're doing

that and then i was also saying that like my legal situation is finally coming to an end. And it's like, I hated to spend what could be my last month of complete freedom doing this thing as well and grew some pain. I haven't been able to see my parents since we've started this thing, which is kind of a big deal for me. I know people think that I hate my mom or something like that. But we've sort of gotten along much better over the past year. And I was like, well, shit, I won't be able to spend Thanksgiving with my parents this year. And holidays traditionally have been a big deal for me. But like the last two years I've cooked Thanksgiving and it's been a really cool experience for me to cook Thanksgiving for my whole family and have them all under one roof again because my dad and mom have split up. So it's something I really look forward to. And I've got these photos from last

year of me pulling the turkey out of the fryer and the skin is all black. And we thought I'd pulled a Christmas vacation and ruined it. But it turned out fine. So I'm kind of glad that I'm going to get to go home, I think, tomorrow and get all my shopping done and fry up a turkey and get mom and dad under the same roof. It'll be fun. So Kyle put in so much effort that he got injured. And Chiz was in the same spot. Chiz, he came out of the gate super hard and about a week in. He got like double.

I don't know exactly what his injury is, but I know he also got sick sick was the romaine lettuce thing a joke or is that actually a possible cause oh no when i said that in our chat i was like joking about the romaine thing but like he probably got it from just a normal meal but like to people like giving chiz shit about him not working as hard that's that's really it's really not fair like he he is in terrible shape uh physically and cardiovascularly like cardiovascularly i guess it works like he's in like yeah the kind of shape where a little bit of exertion get like him walking a mile is like any of the three of us running it at pretty high intensity as far as the strain on his body like just because his total wasn't as high and the strain on his body like just because his

total wasn't as high and i ended up passing him like chis was busting ass he was doing his best the whole time like it so all of the the chis didn't try or oh like it's nonsense he did try he busted his ass and he was not only that like like when the injuries like happened to him it was not a thank god i'm injured i'm done he was actively frustrated where he's like fuck like i feel like i'm making positive improvements in my life not just for this competition like i'm starting to lose some weight i'm feeling better like i wish i could keep going like it wasn't at any like kyle same boat at no point is like the injury like oh hell yeah check this box off i'm done it was like i wish i could keep going i'm super proud of chis

i think chis did of chis i think chis did great chis worked himself to injury right like a repetitive injury he went so hard that he couldn't go any harder his body needed a break uh he didn't work smart right we're all on the same page there you know they came out yeah this was not about none of us worked smart necessarily like i was getting stronger i tell you i wouldn't I'm ready. I don't think that, but I don't think the amount of exertion that you were putting through is healthy for a human being. You know what I mean?

I'm telling you, the next two weeks would have been better than the first two. I don't think that this amount of cardio, like coming from like not much at all to this much, it is like safe for human beings. I don't think a doctor would be like, oh yeah, that's fine. no you went from an active lifestyle to biking 100 miles a weekend yeah that's normal that's you're good you're good there it can't be great for us um and and definitely like the way it was affecting my sleep schedule had to be unhealthy

because like there were a couple things you did that didn't do yourself any favors like you know we were giving you a hard time on the first night like so the competition started at midnight and kyle worked from midnight to something i don't know 6 a.m exercising and uh taylor was like you know i think sleep's gonna be an essential part of this i think that like getting to bed on time and having full restful sleeps will be essential to doing well the next day and that burned into my head i'm like he's a hundred percent right you know like i think back to me of a long long time ago and uh uh you know and kyle would he went so hard he got hurt that's what happened yeah i think it had more to do with form than effort to be honest though like i think that that just doing those like sprinting back and

forth like i was doing like like I was running, I'd stop and try to... Because I remembered in high school we'd do those. We'd have this competition where they put two lines on the floor and you ran back and forth. The shuttle run. I was doing the fucking shuttle run. When I turned and pushed

off one time, it just twinged so bad and it never healed and it still hasn't. Because we just kept going every day all day like it just wasn't getting a chance to what's your upper body feel like right now because you really blew yourself out hard on the on the rowing machine initially like is that soreness gone where you feel like if you needed to you could well aside from like your foot obviously that's needed for most of the most of the soreness is gone on my upper body except for like um the backs of my shouldersreness is gone in my upper body except for the backs of my shoulders,

whatever these are called, my lats or whatever. Yeah, okay, traps. And when I got that massage a couple days ago, she was like, ooh, there's a lot of tightness here. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. Because she's putting a ton of pressure and rolling the muscle backwards or something. I can't

explain exactly the maneuver she's doing, but it's real painful. At no point do I cry out in pain usually during the massage. I usually just take it because I don't want her to think, oh, I better go easy on him. I want her to like do her job, like to whatever she thinks is the correct level. But it, I'm at like a, from a one to 10 on the pain scale, I'm probably at like like a a good solid five when she's doing that to that muscle so those are still sore um my like i i was thinking my arms and chest heal really fast it seems like those muscle groups like recover really well so like at first especially on the arms yeah on the elliptical like i would do like two or three miles at a time on the elliptical

and then i would do a cool down and then go back and do two or three more and the first couple days of that had like the not my pec muscles but like where my armpit is that part of my like chest muscle it had that part and like the outside of my arms pretty sore but then i would you know get in that goddamn ice bath and that that really did help a lot like the the real pain is in my foot the real and it still is like i went in last night with a scalpel and i i carved all of the uh super glue out of my toe hole can you show your toe right now yeah i i just kept carving until i cut most of the callus off and oh it's not gonna show well is it maybe my face is in the way it just doesn't look like anything does yeah it's hard to see i can't see it like a black dot in the

center oh yeah yeah like that you can see the divot like the actual hole i carved the surrounding tissue down quite a bit um you need maggots i i tell you what i've been doing instead is i took uh i took uh neosporin and i filled the hole up with neosporin and then i have these blister bandages that i was using on like my the back of my achilles because those had kind of gotten rubbed off like bloody and uh and i just put those blister bandages on there and i I'm hoping that that's going to, like, heal the fucking hole, because I can't put any pressure on my big toe right now, which you might not think it if you've never hurt your big toe,

but that's where your balance comes from when you fucking walk. It's a very important toe. So I think we agreed to do rid of punishments a little while ago, which I'm totally fine with. The first week. Yeah, like, in the first week,

we were like, this punishment thing is just causing more frustration than joy. Let's do that. And I'm in first, and I totally totally fine with. The first week. Yeah, like in the first week, we were like, this punishment thing is just causing more frustration than joy. Let's do that. And I'm in first, and I totally support that idea. So I feel like it's easy for me to do so there. But there's another thing. Cheese is writing online,

there's no belt. I don't know what that horseshit is, but that needs to stay. The belt is essential. It has been driving and motivating for me. If I don't get a belt out of my efforts, then that's just morally wrong. I need the belt! There needs to be

a belt that happens out of this. And the winner got another prize. He got to choose the vacation, right? So we will not be going to Colorado if I choose the vacation. But I do have two good ideas. One, if Puerto Rico's back open for business, we should totally go scuba diving there. It had been a long time ago

and it was wicked cool. Or two, maybe we'll go up to Rikers and visit Kyle. That would be a hilarious trip. But yeah, Chiz is writing on Reddit that there are no prizes for winning. And I don't know where that idea came from i know i wasn't in that vote i uh well i mean if you know i i didn't know if there would be or not

you know it's it's up to you if you want a bell get you get yourself a belt you know it's um we we called it off earlier whatever and uh but but if you want a belt get a belt yeah yeah don't don't make me run up this score until the end of the month. I mean, maybe that should be required. Woody has to compete against himself and fly himself. He has to maintain his average. He has to maintain, take his 12-day average. Just hold that.

Just hold that. That seems fair. Yeah, no, I did a cool thing. There's a belt involved. I've been, as I'm on the bike, just getting in the flow state, I think about that wall there. And I'm like, do you just hang the belt on the wall? Or do you buy a display case?

I think these are the kind of thoughts I had. To hear no belt That's ridiculous I don't think you'd want a display case You'd want to wear it around everywhere All the time A belt like this It should be the centerpiece of every conversation

Of everyone who comes into your home It should be like that crucifix in Patty's pub It should demand every conversation When you go to Home Depot It should be like that crucifix in Patty's Pub. It should demand every conversation. When you go to Home Depot, it should be screaming loud and clear that you defeated... The three of you guys. The three of us in a 12-day bike riding competition that was thrilling. You're describing my 2019 vlog ideas. That's such an undercutting way to say it kyle

12 day biking competition is two-thirds of a tour de france oh there were days where you like put up entire tour de france's it's a big deal in the yeah yeah a yellow jacket is in order as well a yellow jersey yeah i thought kyle now you're making sense now you're making sense this is why we're visiting you for the pka adventure oh i i'm down to go to puerto rico that'd be fun as soon as i'm allowed to leave the state and or country we may have to is there any scuba diving here i need to find fun things to do in Georgia. Georgia? There is fun stuff. We could do East St. Louis camping.

That's a different state. That might not be okay, but there's a Six Flags in Georgia. In Georgia, just off the top of my head, there is, of course, a coast of Georgia. There's various water activities. Whatever you can do in the ocean. We could all go surfing.

I don't think there's much surfing in Georgia. There's gotta be. I don't know. I've been to Myrtle's in fucking South Carolina, but I've been to Jekyll Island. Skip that. Skip that. You don't want to go there. That's the muckiest, murkiest

beach I've ever been to. It was nothing but waist-deep water that was pretty still and not a lot of waves. there that's the muckiest murkiest beach i've ever been to it was nothing but like waist deep water that was pretty still and like not a lot of waves and we spent the weekend getting our feet cut on conch shells it was it was no fun yeah it doesn't sound fun other than that there's obviously the mountains like where we did that whitewater rafting thing before and uh the zip lining and there's a whole bunch of caves and stuff which i i don't know if it sounds lame or not but i and i'm not suggesting it for any kind of a trip but like i always enjoy going in those fucking like crazy caves that we have up in the mountains like it's not like don't imagine like spelunking right

no it but it's also not like like walking into like a movie style cave where there's like a giant whole art arcway like hole and you're like, oh yeah, this is a cave. It's like you go down in this elevator to the blackest black you've ever seen and then a tour guide takes you around and occasionally they turn lights on and it's usually a shock when the light turns on. You see

that you're in a gargantuan cavern with stalactites and whatever. That would be cool. If I did something ocean related, I wouldn't want to do scuba. Something I've always wanted whatever that would be cool well if i did some ocean related i wouldn't want to do scuba something i've always wanted to do would be like legit deep sea fishing like going for sharks or something huge like i don't even know what the the big targets are um eric well i'll be choosing the vacation it'll be no seasick activities on this one but i have done it for marlin before which i think is what but if it's a if it's a bigger boat like a bigger fishing boat

that won't make you sick right or wait is it bigger or smaller boats that make people sick uh smaller would be sicker but it's i don't like it man i've done it a couple of times uh makes me seasick and it's boring. Did you see anything huge? Oh, yeah. So when I went, the people working on the boat who knew what they were doing would hook the marlin and then hand the rod over you to reel it in.

It's the treatment I needed. Look, I'm not a fisherman, right? That's what we do to kids, though, right? Like in the catfish pond. I'll do that. We'll edit that part out. Fuck it. Woody hooked another one.

Well, look, I mean, on my boat, the people were drunk. People were not fishermen. Yeah, they were tourists. So they would hook them. You might not want that, and they would let you not do that, too. But, yeah, so we've got all these trolling lines out. The boat's driving around where the marlin are, presumably. Every so often, there'd be a hit. The pro would hook him,

hand it to you, and then you'd reel it in. And, uh, you know, you like kind of pull, pull, pull,

pull, pull. Cause you can't reel and pull at the same time. It's too difficult. And then as you're giving them, you pull and you just do that repeatedly. And, uh,

the Marlin like jumped out of the water and you could see, it was an average size marlin but that's a really big fish at five feet you know like it was big heavy hunt multi-hundred pound fish i think i don't really know my fish and uh and i got him up to like the back of the boat you know in the wake probably like 30 feet away and uh i fucked up something at the end and he came off the line so But I also caught some mahi-mahi, also called dolphin. We ate those.

That seems like it would be fun. I get being seasick probably ruins entire days like that. Something else that would be fun, skiing or snowboarding. I like skiing more, but that's something I haven't done in a while, but I've never gone skiing and not had a fucking blast. I also like skiing, but as vacation Lord Emperor, Kyle doesn't like it.

No, no, no. I would be down. I'll find myself a nice inner tube to sit in and slide down so that my ankles don't hurt so bad I cry. And I would honestly love to go. I've seen people sit on those inner tubes and ride down the big mountains that looks like fun to me but i've never had an experience i would love to tie you in an inner tube to the back of me as i'm going down the mountain and pulling you like a like a jet ski why are you so sure you're even faster why wouldn't the tube catch up to you and take your feet out no there's no way a tube's going to be faster.

Every now and then, I just yank the rope. He has a rope. He could be faster. No, well, see, like, I'm going into this knowing it's going to eventually end up bad for me. Because the only possible winning scenario for me is I get all the way down the mountain and coax Kyle into a slower stop. What's going to end up happening is I'll have to stop at the beginning of one run, but there's still a run below it, and Kyle's going to zoot past me and pull me down. That'd be pretty funny.

Snowmobiling would be fun too, yeah. And if we somehow wind up in the same skiing facility, I feel like we should throw on some hockey gear and goof off. For sure, that would be fun. Yeah. Oh, seeing Kyle and throw on some hockey gear and goof off. For sure. That would be fun. Yeah. Oh, seeing Kyle and Chiz wearing hockey gear. Oh, I'm supposed to suit up too?

I didn't think of that. We all need to suit up. I can barely skate. And I mean barely when I say barely. Oh, okay. Oh, I would happily do that. Everybody acts like, oh, I wouldn't want to get puck shot. I mean, how bad could they fucking hurt?

Is it going to leave a little bruise? I'm a grown up. I would totally play goalie. What would you say? I've played goalie, but I wouldn't want to get puck shot. I mean, how bad could they fucking hurt? Is it going to leave a little bruise? I'm a grown-up. I would totally play goalie. How bad would you say? I've played goalie, but I don't know. If you face the puck, it never hurts. True, false. I mean, there's always areas where it's going to hurt no matter what.

Just because of gaps in your... Like your belly? Yeah, like underarms arms that can hurt really bad this little you know crevice here underarm that's bad if it hits uh on your neck area that could they could fucking kill you um so you don't want that so but you do want to be squared to the puck you're right like the way you get hurt as a goalie is like being turned to the side and some guy takes a shot and it you know hits you in the neck or it breaks your ankle or something like that but none of us are going to be shooting hard enough for that to happen so it won't matter you sent me that clip the other day taylor of someone

shooting the puck and it hit a guy in the shin and the guy was in so much pain that he sort of somersaulted but as he did he hit the guy who had hit him with the puck with his stick in the neck, and they both pummeled to the ground in excruciating pain and lie there next to each other. Let's watch this clip. This is great. It's hilarious. And it can't be overstated how much it fucking hurts to get caught in the ankle with a puck,

especially shot by a professional NHL player. Yeah, I'm at zero, and he's in this like wind up about to hit this thing as hard as i can position i'm sorry mine it just it's playing i can pause it i can't rewind it so it's nice yeah oh oh i oh i didn't process it on the first time around you see the first time going through that scand, the guy that gets hit in the foot, tries to stand up at the end, and he immediately just collapses again. His feet aren't working.

God damn. Which one would you rather be? Oh, I would definitely rather be Malkin, the guy who gets hit in the back of the head with a stick. Yeah. Oh, wow. I want to be black guy. Yeah, I do not want to.

Because that's like he's that guy you can't tell from this but malkin is like six four he's a big strong russian and he he's not holding anything back from that slap shot no no how was your slap shot taylor oh not good at all like i i never worked on my slap shot that much like i i have a pretty good snapshot and my wrist shot's solid but because i switched to goalie so early like i never never practiced slap shot much i can shoot ambidextrously though as a consequence of going goalie because you have to like as a right-handed goalie you have to shoot left-handed so i can shoot both i'm still better right but i'm pretty i'm i'm pretty good with my left too yeah me too yeah i'm definitely better shooting with my right

out there on the ice. My hockey team, the Georgia good old boys, we didn't have a lot of competition. It was just us, but we'd scrimmage against one another when we could. I'd play a couple scrims a week, something like that.

South full ass again. It was B was B League That's what we call ourselves You know it was just us in the league But I got a lot of ice time you know Three four hours a game That's like three four hours a game So you were playing back to back to back games

No no no In the south we play a longer game You guys up north you've got It's like cricket it goes all weekend Five thirty minute periods the South, we play a longer game. You guys up North, you've got... We play five 30-minute periods. You've got ice. Ice is a commodity that doesn't mean much to you guys, but when we finally have some ice to skate on, we take advantage of it. We play a

six-hour game. It's a little different. There's two goalies. It's a lot of fun. The Flyers do a charity thing where they play a 24-hour game every year it's funny the flyers the philadelphia flyers every year that i guess the flyers wives have an event that they're very proud of it raises money for a charity i forget which and uh there's like a festive not a i don't know at the rink some sort of like meet and greet with the players

and there's little things you can you, regular people can shoot the puck. But they also do a 24-hour game. And it'll be some guy who, like, I don't know, he's had 19 games with the Flyers and 80 games, I'm exaggerating, with the Phantoms, their minor league team. And he's like, yeah, he was kind of on fire. He didn't hold back. He got 187 goals that day.

And yeah, they'll literally get like hundreds of goals in a 24-hour game against people who aren't also pros. And it's fun. It seems exhausting. How hard is that challenge that I often see? So like in basketball, they have like a half court shot for a million bucks and shit like that.

How hard is that challenge where you have to, I think they do it from like half ice or whatever the fuck center ice like where they try to get the puck in that little uh you know hole i i want to say i heard a news story where like they they did that the other day and like all the competitors hit it like everybody won or something i was gonna say it's compared for a hockey player it's comparable in difficulty to a half-court shot, right? So if you gave me seven or eight shots, I think I'd get one in that little hole. In basketball, I think if you gave a basketball player, how many tries would it take you to hit a half-court shot?

Like if someone out there regularly plays basketball, seven or eight, you'd probably get one in, right? I don't think so. player maybe i i an average person like like or a basket i don't know like a high school basketball star shit i mean the reason this is a 30 oh i thought it was right here with the the hockey thing is a story is because that never happens yeah like it's it's hard. Like if you invited, there's more up there, like they probably wouldn't get it. The thing about the hockey half court shot is a lot of people doing it.

I've never done anything like that before. You know, to them, it's just a broom. They don't even have their hands on the stick in the right way. They don't know if they're right-handed or left-handed when they're taking that shot. Right? Like, like what what if i gave someone who never played basketball the goal of throwing a half court shot then you know they've been thrown a baseball they've done an inbound pass

in soccer you know like they've done ball things before but in hockey sometimes they come in just so unskilled that they don't even get the puck down to the net you want to watch this video of four fans hitting it in a row yeah yeah at the same game is there music uh let me instantly yes there's fucking music that's okay i want to see it though i i was playing it muted and i and like when you asked i turned it on and it's like i can't believe this grandma's about to make it. On this freeze frame, she couldn't be holding the stick more incorrectly. She doesn't know what's going on.

Ready, set, play. Sit me in the music. I can't believe she made that. It does help they have three holes. Look at these people! They're terrible. She was not aiming for the side pocket. There's no way.

Now, that guy's... At least he's held a stick before. Right down the middle. Looks like he at least aimed. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. She was not aiming. No, no.

Two out of the four hit the wrong pocket. I guess they got grandma back and she did it again. Are these just different angles maybe? No. That lady hit the side before. They had like a shoot off between them I guess. I don't know. How are they making these? Hey, Taylor, the Blues

seem to be having a little trouble. Maybe Granny. Right. Step one, signing a geriatric woman. Step two, she'll be our new bruiser. Blues, I hope you're listening. Taylor's got a plan and you have a head coaching spot available.

That would be hilarious to be the head coach just to suddenly like be the guy who didn't know what to do or i'd be like all right well i've been talking a lot of shit about what the guy should have been doing now that i'm here in the moment do you guys have ideas i'd just be like all right so what drills do you normally have ideas? I'd just be like, all right, so what drills do you normally run in practice? No, no, no. Copy the Mighty Ducks. Just completely copy that whole scene in the beginning where Emilio's teaching the Mighty Ducks to play hockey, and he's doing all that silly stuff with eggs and shit.

Ah, yeah. I just bring out, no pucks today, boys. A a lot of eggs a lot of milk saucers get them out let's go tomorrow's practice meet me on that frozen lake i'll meet you there in a limousine and i'll drive out onto the ice because that's how little i respect you bunch of losers i'll drive onto the ice and threaten your life because you're not a bunch of hockey players you're a bunch of saint louis lose is what i. Then they just dog stomp you there in the locker room. They give you a little bit of, give you Moscow's best.

I was bullied by my own team. Taylor was coach of the St. Louis Blues for 43 minutes before a mutiny occurred where Vladimir Tarasenko broke his orbital bone stating, you do not understand what you ask us to do. I'm so impressed by the accents because, one, there's the accent itself, which is kind of tricky. But whenever I find myself needing to do an accent, I don't quite know what the person would say.

He'll switch up the words like Yoda or something if it needs to be done in Russian. One time I was like, I don't know how to say it and I don't know what to say. Yeah, those are the two most important things while doing an impression. What do I need to do when I'm doing an impression? Well, make myself sound like him and then have something to say. Those are the only two areas where I mess up.

Outside of that, it's all cool. Which I guess is just enthusiasm. Oh, I wanted to talk about that Coen Brothers movie. Taylor, did you ever watch it, the Buster Scruggs movie? Is that the title of it, Buster Scruggs? The Ballad of Buster Scruggs. Yeah, I watched probably three quarters of it, and it could be that I was biking at the time,

and so it wasn't getting full 100% attention. But I was watching it closely enough that I was like, could be that like i was biking at the time and so it wasn't getting full 100 attention but i was watching it closely enough that i was like this just i'm not getting sucked in by this one bit like i was there were and i'm you know i'm not the one when we complain about movies where i'm like oh this is going too slow you know i didn't think it was developing fast enough i'm usually okay with more slow burn movies but like there were entire vignettes during that film because basically what it is it's like an anthology movie where it'll have like uh you know a vignette that's 20 minutes with some characters and then totally different characters for 20 more minutes and then

like 30 minutes of something totally different and there were entire storylines in there that i was sitting there biking like holy shit this is fucking boring yeah this is not fun like some of the stories are really good. They were interesting. There was only one that I really thought was very good. The gold miner I liked a lot. That's what I was thinking. I liked the gold miner one a lot, but then the one with the armless legless one,

that was beyond boring. They burned out all the content that that had to offer in the first two minutes. And they completely wasted Liam Nielsen. Yeah. They wasted Mr. Nielsen. But, yeah, I was not impressed by that movie. I stopped about three-quarters, four-fifths of the way in.

It's a two-hour-plus movie, and I think I watched 100 minutes of it. When I turned it off, there was zero percentage of me that was like, I wonder what happens. I was just like, I don't care. I talked to my dad about this movie weeks ago, and I didn't know it was this anthology thing with all these vignettes. I thought it was The Ballad of Buster

Scruggs. I thought it was about Buster Scruggs, who's like this badass, weird, eccentric, song-singing gunslinger who's played by a really familiar character from Oh Brother Where Art Thou, and I thought it was going to be a shoot-em-up comedy western, and I was into that, and I knew my dad would be into that. Well, I watched it all in one sitting somehow, and like you, I didn't like it that much. I love all the Coen Brothers movies.

Didn't suck me in and my dad my dad texted me yesterday at like 5 p.m he's like still watching this Buster Scruggs thing I I watch one piece of it every night that's about all I can that's all that's all I can put up with he's I was like it's rough right it's's like, yeah. Almost every one of these stories ends terribly for the characters in them. And if you think about it, Taylor, only the gold miner had a good ending. The rest of the endings

are sad. This is the part where, like, skip forward two minutes if you don't want any spoilers from this movie, because I'm going to spoil a few things. The first story. Buster Scruggs is this badass stunt singer. I like the first story. I thought it was going to be a few things the first story buster scruggs is the this badass i like the first story i thought it was going to be a neat movie buster dies suddenly and he's like well yes i wasn't quick enough and he literally flies to heaven singing a song and it's like cut

now to a new story and it's what's that what's that guy's name that the the the the the young guy who's in who's who's james franco james franco now it's james franco's story he's name? The young guy who's... James Franco? James Franco. Now it's James Franco's story. He's a bank robber. And you're like, ah, this would be fucking cool. They hang him, and he's dead.

You're like, ah! I expected him to continuously escape the noose. This is the part where they shoot the noose with a bullet, right? What I thought it was initially, I was like, oh, okay, so we saw the first part which is the end of buster scruggs life now we're seeing the beginning of buster scruggs where apparently james franco grows into this other adult whatever who cares yeah okay so now we're gonna see this and then uh then the guy who played the banker is one of my favorite actors i don't

even know his name but he's the guy who does a ton of voice acting stuff. He does a bunch of bit parts, and he does Bildo Treves' voice on King of the Hill. It's really, really funny. And he's the most underrated actor ever, and he plays so, so good. And I was excited to see him in that movie. But every time I'd get sucked in by a character, it was like, oh, okay, well, this story's done, and I guess we're not picking up. I guess that's just it now. Once I realized it was not a ballad of Buster Scruggs, it was an amalgamation of sad stories with one good one,

I was like, this sucks. The final story is literally... I didn't get to the final story. You want me to spoil it? No, I'm not going to go back and watch that piece. The final story, it's five characters and a stagecoach on a ride, and they each take turns pontificating, talking endlessly about

what's interesting to them, and none of it's very interesting, but they're just talking about it. Then you start slowly coming to the realization, this is not a regular stage coach. Is it the end of life? Yes. They're all fucking dead. And the two bounty hunters sitting across

aren't bounty hunters hunters they're reapers they're taking these people to to and the people start realizing that's the case but nobody wants to say it out loud and they get to their destination this like dark town with like this mansion that they're going into and nobody wants to step off the stage coach nobody wants to open the door and then they all just walk in and close the door and that's the end of the movie it was that's anticlimactic like yeah it's well well it wasn't like that well that story even wasn't meant to be like the climax of the movie because each story is completely on its own and a separate story from the others ever so i find people who are on youtube or on podcasts or something they kind of

have a beginning middle and end they're better than average storytellers right but when i find myself at a thanksgiving i'm just like what are we doing here you don't you don't have any understanding of your listener like where is this oh this is kind of work that movie seems like kind of work like if i just tell a story and then be like yeah and then at the end of the journey we that's the end i just don't tell you it's like listening to a story with no punchline there needs to be a payoff there needs to be an end with the prospector there was it's basically this old prospector and he's's looking for gold, and he has this, he's sort of, it's just him. And he's sort of speaking to himself as he digs for gold by this river, and he's got this process of, like, he goes downriver.

He digs until he finds a little gold, like specks. And then he digs to the left until he finds none, and then to the right until he finds none. Now he knows the sweet spot. And then he starts going toward the mountain in the middle of that sweet spot, looking for the source of this gold that's been running off with rainwater toward that creek. And he's just talking to himself. And he seems like a nice guy. He climbs a tree to get some eggs.

And he notices the mama birds looking at him. And he starts putting the eggs back. And then he goes, how high can birds count anyway? And he just takes one of the eggs and... He was leaving those eggs for the owl to eat. Those were the owl's eggs.

I didn't think those were the owl's eggs. Those were way too small of a nest for an owl. I thought that he saw a fellow... I love that he's rolling into this. You don't understand these are my people. You're wrong about this. You're wrong about... Why would he leave all the eggs for the no no you're just wrong about this those are the owls it does seem weird that he prioritized the owl's hunger over his own like the children i can kind of get on board with yeah those were albapes so so like and then finally he hits it right he hits it big

as you would imagine he's he's got his gold then a stranger comes up behind him, shoots him in the back, in the hole that he's been working for this entire segment toward. Like, all we've seen this man do is work hard. And I mean hard for this gold. And he's an old guy, 65 or something. Big beard.

It's effort. You can hear him grunt and, like, just really try hard to get the gold every second that he digs. Young fella comes up, shoots him in the back he's laying there fucking dead young guys up there rolls himself a cigarette slowly and you just watch this young guy like slowly smoking his self-rolled cigarette or whatever and finally the young guy

hops in the hole to like get his gold old guy comes back to life he wasn't dead he was just injured and and and gets the best of the young fella kills kills him. He's like, you gonna steal my gold? You gonna steal my gold? Ha! You didn't hit anything important. Went straight through. Ha! Ha!

And then at the end, you see him, like, loading all of his fucking gold up and, like, driving away and, like, rolling the bad guy in the hole. He goes, that's your share. And he just rides away on his horse. And he's like, yeah, that's your share and he just rides away on his horse and he's like yeah that's a feel-good one work hard and get your payoff and you know kill the bad guy and like get your goal and he falls off the horse peak from blood loss i expected that the most important thing about that story is i just looked it up and that nest is way too small to be an owl nest

owl nest. Who knows owls better than me? I don't. Who knows owls better than me? Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. Do you have a picture of the owl's nest? Oh, I just looked up the size of an owl nest and you can see

they're pretty sizable. I'm sorry. I feel like if nest, and you can see they're pretty sizable. I'm sorry. I feel like, if anything, the Coen brothers just got the owl nest size right. Yeah, don't you think the prop department made a mistake and that he's not feeding the owl's eggs? I love that that's Taylor's takeaway. I am. In this, I have made my decision. Did you Google about what was going on with those eggs?

Did you think to search maybe do owls eat other birds' eggs? Oh yeah, they do. They eat other birds. That's not the question. They definitely eat other birds' eggs. Do owls eat other birds' eggs? They do.

Yes, they do. I still say it's not what's happening there. Skunks? Jesus. Or I guess the great horned owl. That'll eat a skunk. That's not a fun meal. It was, in fact, a great horned owl depicted in the film, so there you go. It was. The great horned owl is the most serious predator threat to eat eggs. According to allaboutbirds.org. No way he was concerned about that.

No way he was feeding an owl. He looked at the bird. How many eggs did he feed the owl, by the way? Like four? He left, there were like four eggs total, and he had all four pocketed, and he looks up and sees the owl and you can tell he feels guilty because the owl's like whoa bro what's up he's like all right he puts all he starts putting them back and then the last one he's like how high can birds count anyway and

he pockets the last i was only asking because it seems like in taylor's world he left three eggs for a six pound bird and took one for his 200 pound self. Yes. That makes sense. I'm not backing off of it. I was literally sitting there on my bike and I climbed up the tree and started to grab those eggs and I was like,

oh, he's going to take the owl's eggs. And I was like, or at the nest, I was like, no, he's saving those eggs for the owl that's that's way too small to be an owl nest that's my thought process so uh I like that note to self if Taylor's doing cardio he's at half his normal intelligence where where where do bird eggs come from anyway yeah because they don't New punishment. Taylor has to take the SATs on his exercise bike.

So yeah, big letdown. And if you had asked me before I watched the movie, spoilers over. If you had asked me before the movie started what I thought I was going to rate the movie after I did watch it i i would have said like a seven and a half or an eight out of ten because i have that much like respect for

the coen brothers and and everything else they've done and i saw the cast of this movie and it's very impressive i would for my enjoyment not as a piece of art because that it really is it's beautiful to look at even yeah legitimate rage would you put a time stamp for end of spoilers in the yeah yeah that's kind of why i said that but but yeah thanks for reiterating for you know saying it um but like having watched it my enjoyment was it like a five or four and a half or something like that by contrast the like yesterday last night i watched the meg which is the movie where Jason Statham fights a megalodon shark in the open water, right?

It's basically Jaws on steroids. I liked it better. It was more fun and enjoyable to me. Not a better made movie, certainly, or anything like that, but it was a good movie. It was fine. It was this weird mix of like, it was like Sharknado, but good. You know what I mean? Like they made like a giant monster movie, but they tried.

And it came out pretty fucking well. And seeing that enormous shark eat people is fun. I've been turning around on fun shows. I feel like I've been watching a little more like serious, artsy, epic type stuff. You know, trying to look for the next Lord of the Rings and then Reddit went wild about Brooklyn Nine-Nine so I watched it and it was like you know what this is good too like it doesn't have to expand me or grow me emotionally I can just enjoy shows and I'm now watching Designated Survivor are you familiar with this

yes with keeper sutherland the premise for those of you that aren't familiar is when they do the state of the union you've got the president there you've got the congress the senate everyone in the same spot which makes america very vulnerable so they take a guy who's going to rebuild government if things go wrong if like a nuke or something hits the Capitol building, then there'll be a designated survivor in some undisclosed place who lives on. Who becomes president.

Yes, to make it clear, he becomes president. And he's like 12th in line of succession because everyone else is in the State of the Union address watching that. And it happens. Inside of like, I don't know, a couple minutes of the first episode, everyone in the United States government gets killed. The Supreme Court,

the President, the Senate, the House. And then it becomes his job to figure out who did it, to rebuild the government, to lead things, to present them, let them know we're not ready to be pushed over by other militaries. And I'm only halfway through the first season, but I'm kind of enjoying it. Every so often I'm like, that smoke looks really fake. This is not Lord of the Rings. An intern did

that in less than 10 minutes. But, it doesn't have to be Lord of the Rings to be good. And I'm liking it. Did you ever watch... Oh, it's that anthology series on FX that's scary. Oh, shit. American Horror Story?

American Horror Story. American Horror Story. Did you ever watch any of that, Woody? Yeah, I watched a couple seasons of it. There was a bad season or two, and it lost me. Sure, exactly. Season two is the only one I thought was good, where it had the insane asylum

one, where like that tall, thin, gray-haired doctor is in it. Walter Cromwell. Walter Cromwell. Good. Wow. Kyle has a knack for that. Yeah. Did you see that season? Or did you just know he was in it? I did. You didn't see it and you still knew that. That's crazy.

Yeah. Well, I mean, there's not too it and you still knew that. That's crazy. There's not too many that fit that. That are known actors. The guy from Babe. And the guy from... Kyle, in my world, very few of the actors are known. I usually am like, ah, that's a thin white guy from this movie. Not like, oh, that's Mr. Cromwell.

He's actually a knight. He might be a knight. Like, Walter Cromwell, if you're born a Walter Cromwell, there's someone standing near your mom's vag just ready to knight you. So come out.

I want to say he's Irish. Thanks for joining us, sir! He was very good as, like, Police Commissioner Dudley in that crime drama that was really big. L.A. Confidential. We've all seen L.A. Confidential, right?

Because it's a masterpiece. I've never seen it. No. L.A. Confidential. I'm glad. Thank you, Taylor, for not making me alone. He's about to go in on me. I'm pretty sure I could do it off the top of my head.

First Mandy, now L.A. Confidential, Woody. What the hell is wrong with you? This is a very different... You would like this. All right, so get this. This is the cast of L.A. Confidential. Guy Pearce, Kevin Spacey, Russell Crowe, Kim Basinger, Danny DeVito. It's James Cromwell. See, I got the guy's name wrong. It's not Danny DeVito. It's James Cromwell. See, I got the guy's name wrong. It's not Walter Cromwell. It's James Cromwell.

David Statham. A lot of these guys I know, but you wouldn't know their names. That's about it. Even two of those I missed. It's a super cast, and it's really good. Essentially, it's like old Hollywood crime drama with mob stuff and police

stuff. And Guy Pearce plays this very straight-laced, by-the-book police officer. And Kurt Russell, or excuse me, Russell Crowe plays the dirty cop who will do whatever it takes. He'll beat confessions out of people or whatever. And Cromwell like the police commissioner like like the the captain or something like that who's in charge of everything kim basinger plays a prostitute who uh looks like a movie star and and she's sort of interwoven with all of these characters danny devito writes this like almost a smut magazine but not pornography more like hollywood dirt and so he'll like partner up with um with um having to look to because i forgot the kevin spade poor kevin spacey always space on his name since since he's been the fuck just run out of the business poor kevin spacey but he'll partner

with he'll partner with kevin spacey and he'll be like he'll be like, look, this guy in there, he's a big actor. He's a dope thing though. He's in there with a whore. You go, you bust him, I'll take the pics. He's like, alright, good deal. So like Kevin Spacey goes in and he'll like bust like the Hollywood like actor. Danny DeVito takes the photos

and gets him some publicity and he slips Danny DeVito some money. So both of their profiles keep rising up. And it's good. It's very violent. There are shootouts. How old is it? I'm going to say maybe like 2000, something like that.

18 years old. It's pretty old. But the fact that it's like a period piece means that it ages perfectly forever. It'll be good 200 years from now because there's no special effects. It's all practical in-camera stuff. But there's gunfights. There are beatings. There's people getting set up.

The interrogation scenes are masterful. That's literally like Cromwell's quote. Guy Pearce goes in, and he's playing these two suspects against one another, questioning them. He'll question one, and then wait until the guy's pissed off at his friend, and then he'll flip a switch so the guy in the other interview room can hear his buddy ratting him out. And then he'll flip it back off, and then he'll go to the other guy and be like, he's ratting you out in there, Daryl, telling us everything there is to know about you.

And when he comes out, Cromwell's like, that was masterful, Edmund. Masterful. But meanwhile, like, Russell Crowe's character has this real issue with women beaters. As a child, he watched his father or stepfather, one or the other,

like beat his mother to death while he was chained to a radiator. So that doesn't, that shit doesn't fly with him. And so he's out, he's outside and he's hearing these guys Basically admit to a crime even though it's not the crime that everybody thinks they've done in reality They've kidnapped and raped a woman and he's outside listening to the interrogation and it's a by the books interrogation

It's misleading there's lies But there's no violence and he's outside with his hands like this on the back of a chair standing behind it and the chairs Just creaking a little because he's squeezing it so hard and he's squeezing and he's squeezing as these guys are talking about I don't think we killed her I just wanted to lose my cherry and then the chair explodes in his fucking hands and he just rushes into the interrogation room and Like like takes the all the bullets, but one out of revolver and stuffs it in the guy's mouth. Where's the girl click? Takes all the bullets but one out of a revolver and stuffs it in the guy's mouth. Where's the girl? Click.

What? Where's the girl? Click. And there's like a dozen cops watching this as he plays Russian roulette with this guy to the guy's piss in his pants and giving him the location. And he doesn't waste any time. He's out the door to go rescue the girl. It's a great movie.

It's long. It's maybe two and a half hours long. Movie, okay. It looks good. It's got fantastic reviews. I want to see it now. Kyle's got me curious. Probably on Netflix.

I got a question for you, Kyle. You're good at describing movies to make me want to see them. He does. Why did you say The Sopranos aged poorly? Do you still do that? The fight choreography and the gunplay in particular. The special effects and some of the special effects. There aren't many, but when they do happen, you notice them.

What about the fight choreography? Because on the gunplay, I'm especially annoyed. I was thinking about this. I think it was before the show started. If I see a guy in a movie swimming, this came up because of, what was it, Meg or something? Yeah. I instantly evaluate that guy's stroke and can tell you whether he's a swimmer or not.

Sometimes they have people playing lifeguards or rescue swimmers who can't swim for shit, and it ruins it for me. I'm like, I bet Kyle does that with guns. If he sees a guy reloading that's supposed to be a badass Navy SEAL, but he like me then it must ruin it yeah and it's not it's nothing about how they perform with the weapons or how they operate the weapons because they're gangsters right they're not supposed to be trained it's more about how the weapons fire like how the weapons sound and look when fired um that it looks fake and it sounds fake like the gunshots don't sound right. The guns never have recoil. That sort of thing.

Like there's a scene where Tony and Pussy are executing the Bevilacqua kid in that log house out in the park. And they're just emptying their 9mm into this guy's chest. And the pistols aren't recoiling, even though they're pretty much rapid firing them as fast as they can go. Oh, Kyle froze. But what frustrates me about the Sopranos, they'll hold a gun, and when they shoot, they poke it at them. They're like, bang, bang, bang. And that's not how you aim, so it's pretty awful.

Taylor, did you have a funny topic? I don't know what to expect from Kyle. Yeah. He might just... He's in a very preacher kind of picture mode right now. Oh, I see. I've got a gun in his hand. Oh, there he is. Kyle's back. There he's back.

Yeah, sorry about that. I have no idea, but my internet twice a day does this. I made a list of overrated and underrated things and seeing if you guys can talk me out of any of them um so something that is some stuff very and you might just agree because i'm very smart uh not when you're running now i'm running and not when it comes to uh to avian fucking but uh nutella is one of the most overrated things on the planet. Not only is it not delicious, it's not even good. The thing about Nutella is it's quite good,

but it's not good for the amount of calories that are in it. I'd rather have peanut butter. So it's pretty much the same calories and stuff as peanut butter, which is quite good. It is more of a chocolatey kind of thing, but I'm not sure if you compare Nutella to actual chocolate frosting if there's a huge calorie difference. It's so packed with fat and calories. Here's my thing. It also has a lot of palm oil in it,

which I saw a tweet that says that's very bad. It is. I think Nutella is actually quite good. The thing is it's measured on the wrong scale. They say Nutella is pretty good compared to peanut butter. Now, on a healthy scale of 1 to 10, peanut butter is like a 3 or a 4. Not that healthy. But people think Nutella is also a 3

or a 4, and it's not. You're just putting candy on bread. It's a 1 of healthy peanut butter. It's a 1, and that's the thing. You should be measuring it against really sinfully great things not regular meal things like peanut butter i was i was correct nutella has more calories per serving than chocolate frosting damn yep totally overrated yeah yeah so it's good just don't go thinking it's regular food. Eat frosting. Something else is overrated. What is?

Westworld. Westworld is overrated. It is. I feel like it's the show now that I'm supposed to like a lot, but it's just not as good as I feel like everybody else thinks. By the end of season one, I wasn't that interested anymore. I've seen both seasons. I like it.

However, it is overrated. They try and put it in the same conversation with Game of Thrones. Can't do that. It's not as good. It's an incredible idea, though. It's a very inventive, creative idea. I feel like season one maybe should... Like season one, you immediately have the part break, right?

It's basically Jurassic Park, but with robots. They're both written by Michael Crichton. It's Jurassic Park, but with robots. They're both written by Michael Crichton. It's Jurassic Park, but with robots. And Michael Crichton's not that creative, if you think about it. I think he wrote another book that's like every one of his books is like... Jurassic Park with aliens. Exactly. Every one of his books is like,

what if we had a theme park and everything went crazy and the attractions got loose and scared everybody? How about that? Didn't you already do that? Yeah, yeah, we're doing it again. We're doing it again. But this time it's robots. Next movie I'm doing is the people get trapped in the small world ride at Disney World

and they come to life. I've been trapped in the small world ride. So I like it. I like it, but it doesn't belong with Game of Thrones. It's pretty good. I felt like season one shouldn't... The end of season one should have been the part breaking, and then

you leave off from there, but most of season one should have been the ins and outs of the park and stuff like that, whereas what happens in season one is like a little bit of the park working, but you already see the park starting to break, and then by the end of season one, the park has gone bananas, and then by the end of season one the park has gone bananas

and then season two is just bananas uh the whole season yeah i haven't seen any of season two yet but yeah i'm glad we all agree that's that's overrated something i think you'll all be on board with because this is this isn't even a debate this is a fact uh cigars are profoundly overrated and I have tried. I'll try it because my dad likes them. I have family who like them, and I'll go on golf trips or something, and we'll have a cigar. And I don't go into it with a bad attitude. I go into it like, I'm going to really try and enjoy this.

Everybody else seems to enjoy these things. I'm going to give it a go. There's a reason people like these. Every fucking time, I get like 10 minutes into it and i'm like this is not only is this not good tasting this is actively unpleasant yeah like i i don't get it they tell me i do it wrong i'm like man this is awful they're like you're not supposed to inhale it you're just supposed to and i'm like i'm doing the fishy thing yeah they always say that you're not supposed to inhale it it's like no no shit i'm not i'm'm doing the little dick-sucking maneuver that you're supposed to do.

I prefer fishy things. It's only if you don't know how to suck dick. Well, you wouldn't believe how many pedophiles I've stopped mid-bloodlust, rape lust, just by getting on my knees and giving them a couple cigar pups a couple of cigar pups yeah that's all it is cigars are overrated as shit shower sex overrated as shit yes water's not a lubricant we've covered shower sex in my i wanted to back up to the cigars and say this okay um i got pretty into cigars for a while i i had my i had a humidor i had my fancy cigar lighter i still have it somewhere in a drawer and uh but this and every time i go to vegas i'd go into one of those big humidor i had my fancy cigar lighter i still have it somewhere in a drawer and uh but this and every time i go to vegas i'd go into one of those big humidor rooms and i buy i don't know a couple

hundred dollars worth of cigars or something like or in florida there's there's a big cuban presence down there and and you know there's lots of nice cigars there but the cigars that i settled on that i enjoyed the most were flavored cigars now not always not always would they be flavored like a Vapis flavor, like Pina Colada. I wouldn't get that. But I would get, like, there was one of them that was like strawberry liqueur or something like that. I was like, it's not that crazy like Pina Colada.

It would be like strawberry liqueur. More like a daiquiri. Yeah. Or it would be Maker's Marks. Think of a gingerbread martini and you're right there. Not that crazy. I'm trying to think of the flavor.

Like cinnamon. It's called Baja Blast. Like cinnamon or chocolate or something like that. I don't think they're called cigarillos, but they're somewhere between cigar and cigarillo. I would say they're about as big around as – everybody's hands are different. Maybe a little bigger than my pinky. Like definitely much bigger than a cigarette, but smaller than what you would think of as a cigar. And I liked those a lot.

Like they tasted good. I hardly lump those into the cigar category because the cigarillos, like they smoke super quick. And so it's not – you're not putting in three hours or you know i don't know 90 minutes of time to smoke a cigar like you're kind of in and out with it so i don't mind those as much i've done those we had like sweet maraschino cherry cigars or something and um i do the little fishy face and i still don't like it yeah they're not good i'm thankful for that the next the next 51 items on my list gonna be great uh as far as overrated uh the 2018 st louis blues the 2017 2016 st louis blues 2015 st louis blues don't forget the 2014 st louis blues who had a lot

of potential the 2013 st St. Louis Blues, definitely overrated. Go down to 2012, overrated. Now, 2011, different story. Still overrated, not as much. 2010. I was going to go back to 67. Yeah, so those

are good. As far as underrated things, Fast Clean Poops, where you just have a nice, clean poop. It's one wiper you know you sit down fully evacuate feel good that does especially if it's like in the middle of the day and you don't have the time to shower afterward because you always want to shower after a poop because it's gross if i have an unusually large poop i feel pretty good about that i'm like i am just lighter and my stomach is smaller and there's just a lot of volume

that's not there anymore. Something else underrated. Lamb meat. Yes. It's delicious and people have no idea how delicious lamb is. Better than beef. Better than beef. I swear to God, lamb is better than beef in almost every conceivable way. Now, I don't like lamb burgers

as much as I like beef burgers because the fat content is very important there. But lamb chops versus steak, I mean, you got to go to a really nice steak to beat really nice lamb chops. A rack of lamb, the meat has a flavor that beef just does not. It's so tasty. Love lamb chops. People say it's like, oh, it's a little gamey, but it's like, that's not gamey. That's just like a different flavor. Yeah. It's a good, delicious lamb flavor. It say it's a little gamey, but that's not gamey. That's just a different flavor. Yeah, it's a good, delicious lamb flavor. It's amazing. Love it. Love lamb. Those are good.

Kombucha. Underrated. I just started drinking that recently. It's this shit I've been drinking right now. Oh, that shit. Cough syrup? Kombucha. And it's like a very vinegary drink. and it's supposed to have a bunch of probiotics

but I don't really care about that it's got like an effervescence to it you are losing me every step of the way here imagine carbonated vinegar if you like vinegary drinks Taylor let me tell you about pickle juice

this is some good shit. Don't mix it with chili. I've turned around on pickles. I used to not like pickles on my burger. Then I got some Chick-fil-A, and I usually don't get the pickles on there, but I had the pickles on there, and I ate them because I didn't want to pull them off. And I was like, yeah, that's pretty good. That's a nice little vinegary kick.

I can't believe I haven't been enjoying this. You got a burger at Chick-fil-A? Or the chicken burger, whatever it is. Next time you go to Chick-fil-A, get the spicy deluxe. It's got the pepper jack cheese, it's got tomatoes, lettuce, it's the spicy chicken, and

the pickles. It's delicious. It's wonderful. It's amazing. I've turned the table on, or I've turned the bend, rather, on pickles, on burgers. They're very good. I very good i love kombucha stuff it's very good very good it's supposed to be good for your stomach i don't i don't know if i believe that but it's low calorie and it's got like you know the the bubbles you get in like champagne compared to beer how it's like a lighter smaller more effervescent bubble and champagne i love that

there aren't enough drinks with that kind of effervescence, and this has it, because it's fermented. And so I like that a lot. Yeah, no thanks on that one. That's the first one you've lost me on. Okay, that's a pretty good record. Underrated funerals. You know, it's a great place to pick up women, and

be thankful that you're not dead. Hey, it's a nice walk in a field. It's a nice walk in a field. It's a nice walk in a field. Heartless fucks. No, I hate funerals. I usually try to figure out a way to bring them back. Doesn't work. You know, whether it be a bargain or what have you.

And I just... Wait, wait. You try to bring them back. Like, I don't know. Am I actually doing a seance or anything. Like you try to lighten the mood? Make it better for everyone else? A little prop comedy?

Just between my own ears, it's sort of like negotiating. How can we get this thing to be undone? Yeah, no. You lost me on that one. i don't like funerals i don't actually like funerals either ridiculous one in there but uh yeah yeah a lot of overrated and underrated things gatekeeping is underrated people always bitch moan about gatekeeping as a

thing where they're like hey we need to make our hobby inclusive to everyone, even people who are antithetical to the goal of our hobby. It's like, what? No, that's what happened with football. They let women get involved, and now they have to wear pink socks. Now they have to have domestic violence night and all these things. And so I say it would be much easier and better if you kept some gates up. I'm not with you. I'm not with you. I'm not with you.

I think gatekeepers are often throwing up arbitrary rules so that they can make their club special. And I don't respect people like that. If you say, yeah, you know what? I bet you could do this thing too if you just went through the same steps that I did. Then you're inclusive and you stop blowing out that candle to make yours burn brighter. Oh, if that's what – I agree with you there. If they just want to join the club, what I'm talking about are the people who don't actually have an interest in what they're doing. They just want to be a part of it where they're like, all right, we need to get women more involved in football.

And then women are like, yes, thank you for finally letting us get more involved. First thing we want to do is change everything. I think I've got this. We need a gate up. Gatekeepers suck, but welcome mats also suck. You need to go through the same steps that everybody else did. You know what irritates me? Women

in engineering, right? Now, maybe because I worked with tons of women software engineers. I hate when I see women outside of the home. They all suck. They suck, they suck, they suck. But some fucking, fucking jackass got the idea that we need to go grab some art history major

and give them a job computer programming because they're girls. We're just going to lower our standards and make this easy. We've talked about it for firemen. We've talked about it for military people. We have not yet covered how there are unqualified female software

engineers because they're just doing everything they can to get these people in the job except requiring that they're qualified. That's the welcome mat example you gave. I like that. No welcome mats.

No exceptions. You want to be a Marine? Do as many pull-ups as the dudes. Yeah. It's at the end of the list. I think we covered a lot of really good ground today. Well, I mean, I have pages. The 2009 St. Louis Blues. Which ones won the President's Cup?

They're still overrated? 99. Oh, yeah, totally overrated. Because they lost in the first round. But what's better? A President's Cup and a're still overrated? 99. Oh yeah, totally overrated. Because they lost in the first round. But what's better? A President's Cup and a first round exit? Or like I don't know, conference finals? There's nothing worse than a President's Trophy

and a first round exit. I'd rather suck. You'd rather not make the playoffs? I'd rather get a good draft pick and suck. Well, you maybe would like rooting for the Hurricanes with me. I'll jump on the Hurricane bandwagon. We don't play them enough for me to dislike them. There's plenty of room. No one else is on it.

Oh, I welcome Matted. Fuck! It's me, Woody, and nine people in Raleigh. All on there. Well, I guess are there any outros, Kyle? Oh, are we at four hours? Yes.

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Or at least the eyebrows are. Yeah, it attaches to its mouth somehow in this. Yeah, there's a lot of goodness happening in here. So yeah, say something nice about PKA, Lincoln, et cetera. I guess that's a wrap. The belt is going to happen. The vacation is sort of up in the air. We don't know everyone's availability.

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