Painkiller Already - PKA 526 w Destiny - Panic Attacks, Destiny Loses Twitch Partnership, Bad Trips

Episode Date: January 19, 2021

Pinkular80526, guest Destiny Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Postmates and SmartMouth. We'll hear about them a little more later, but Destiny, it's been probably over a year. It was an entirely different world the last time we spoke. Yeah, that's an understatement. We are in a totally different world. It feels like the world's changing every year or two in pretty unbelievable ways. Every couple of weeks.

Every couple of weeks, it's like this is the end no no death toll doubles capital falls it kind of feels like when you're watching like uh you know when you're watching a tv show uh i don't know if anyone's picked up on this trend the way that you know a tv show has gotten shit is when random kind of important but not very important characters are killed off because you know the writers have ran out of ideas to keep you hooked. So it's like the main character's brother that you saw like for two episodes in season two all of a sudden gets killed and now the stakes are higher. Or like somebody kills themselves like in house or whatever. And I know sometimes there are external reasons, but like, you know, that writers reach for stuff like this because they're running out of ideas.

I kind of felt like we were doing that for all of the last two years, except in reality. Like the guy killed himself. The guy killed himself in house because he got a job for the Obama administration. I mean, we say that, and that's true, but there are a million ways that you can write somebody off a show. Like, hey, I really need to do a writing job. Or, I'm sorry, I really need to go and work on an administration. How can we

write our character off? He's going to fucking shoot himself in the fucking head. He did. He literally does. I mean, I just thought he'd accept an internship at another hospital, but I mean, if you want to go that way, I mean,

okay, sure. Now that's a good point. That's interesting, because nothing about his character has led us to believe he's suicidal or self-harming in any way. Well,

that's how they tried to spin it, because they were like, oh, like anybody could kill themselves at any point in time, especially if the writers need a convenient plot device to make them care about the characters more.

It's not bad writing. It's commentary. Yeah, it became a commentary on suicide. Defying expectations, yeah. This is why season 8 of Game of Thrones is some of the best TV ever written, by the way, because all sorts of expectations were defying expectations. We could kick you out right here and now. You know that, right? We have a background for three

of us, just so you know. You want to start with the personal attacks right off the bat, and we're just not going to stand for it. It is unreal how much that entire ethos of that show think of how big a part of that culture are like american culture was for like eight years and now it is totally memory hold no one thinks about it nobody talks about it it is dead think of how perfect we are right now in the coronavirus land right over the past, how many people have,

I want to re-watch Lord of the Rings. I'm going to re-watch all of Harry Potter. I'm going to re-watch all of it. Not a single person's like, maybe we should re-watch Game of Thrones. Like you would get thrown out of your house by your parents. It's never caught your mind. Yeah, exactly.

You know what you could do? You could watch the first five seasons. And when Jon Snow dies, you're like, that's a wrap. Night King wins. GG. Then you just make up the rest in your head. You make up the rest in your head. It's so hard to talk about it. But Lost did the same thing.

Lost was amazing. It was a cultural phenomenon, phenom, whatever. And everyone was talking about it. It was like Super Bowl commercials. It was people hanging on the edge. It was the water cooler show of its time. Lost was. And you're like, what does that polar bear mean what is this time travel about what is this is this whole thing hurley's imagination is this whole thing this is this whole thing that are they

all dead are they all dead and then at the end they left so many on it where are waltz superpowers and how does that play into all of this unanswereded. We don't know. It's season eight in that show. They were bad writers. They were bad writers. They were new writers all the time that just picked up and didn't really continue on the stories. Lost did it, too, because they didn't really tie down any of those loose ends. They just let it go wild. I never watched an episode of Lost, but I remember a friend of mine was really into prison break which came

out around the same time and i remember watching an episode or two at his house and being like dude this sucks they're just gonna break out of prison and then they're gonna end up back in prison to break out and he's like no dude it's like they break out and then they're gonna go on adventures they're gonna be like fighting crime and like the next season came out and i'm like what's going on in prison break he's like they're back in prison trying to break out of prison again but they did season three oh they well he has to break into the prison and then it goes awry and he must then break out again didn't they eventually like go on the run and have wild adventures and stuff he gave up on it too that guy eventually yeah the thing about loss i know we've touched on this a little bit before

is like that that was when the writer's strike happened know we've touched on this a little bit before is like that that was when the writer's strike happened so that definitely impacted the show a little bit and i i want to believe though it's probably not true that the original writers knew what walt's powers were about and what the polar bear was about and then this new group of people it was like it would be like if they gave the four of us the job and we don't know so we're just like fuck i don't know let's just figure it out as we go yeah it was very upsetting and they were bad writers because like i've said before on this show like all they had to do when for example walt aged big time between like season two and three

or season one and two like he hit puberty and like sprouted up like like holy shit he went from boy to like a real man. All he had to do was make some time travel happen. That would have been so cool if they were like, oh, he got stuck in this time dilation bubble and aged four years in the span of a day, and here he is back. And then they had this whole arc where he has to, like,

he's all weird, like walking with his long legs, like he's not used to being a grown man and he's talking to his dad about shaving now and stuff. That would've been great. Beating off on his side of the island alone. Just masturbating furiously on the other side of the island with coconut oil. I know you need your space, son.

Watch for small monsters. Best of luck. Instead, they just wrote him off the show. What was the pants situation? I've never seen Lost. Were they walking around in loincloths? Did they have real clothes? They had their bags packed for an international flight. So they had a good amount of clothes.

They did get the lady in her panties a lot. And her bra was always clean. So it sounds like a Gilligan's Island with no jokes. And an equal understanding of how they got there and how they planned to escape. It's Gilligan's Island, no jokes and an equal understanding of how they got there and how they plan to escape. It's Gilligan's Island, but with torture. Yeah. How did it actually end?

Do they tell it? They were in the past. You want to know? I'm never going to watch this. They were all dead. The whole time? The whole time. Oh, so nothing was ever at stake.

So you can't watch that show ever. You can't. They ruined it with the last season. And because you haven't seen it, you don't understand all the clues, all the last season and and because you haven't seen it you don't understand all the clues all the little like i don't know clues they were giving you hints as to what this thing was controlling their way they they put an ironclad case together that there was one guy was crazy and this was all happening in his mind saint elsewhere like nope that wasn't it they had walt with the superpowers who could wish things into existence.

Nope, that was just not really a thing. Forget about it. There's a half a dozen of those, and it's crazy. Anyway, Destiny. I'm kidding. Yeah, anyway, Destiny. What's new in your world? I want to hear about the Twitch thing.

I have heard secondhand. Wait, which thing are we talking about? There's so much. My life is so active. The partnership thing. I have heard fromhand. There's so much. My life is the partnership, the partnership thing. I have heard like from my Twitch chat, one of the least reliable sources on the internet, what happened.

So you, maybe you should tell us what happened. Yes. Yeah. So I was in, uh, the wonderful, uh,

Iceland of, uh, Sweden. And, in the middle of some stream I was doing, somebody starts dropping me like these video clips and they're like, destiny, you have a hot take on this. Because anytime anything in the world happens,

nobody knows what to think until I tell them. You know, like, oh, we're here, guys. This is what you're saying. I understand. So in the course of watching this, I look at it. And initially, I've heard like so many different things. Like white nationalist protesters shows up and starts shooting at BLM people. And I'm like, probably some fucking moron with a gun because let's be real.

80% of people in the US, this is coming from somebody that loves guns. 80% of people in the US that love guns are fucking morons. I'm ashamed and embarrassed to be considered among that group of people of gun owners because holy fuck, a lot of these people are irresponsible, unsafe, and just stupid when it comes to firearms. So that's kind of what I figured would happen. And then I load up the video and I see some little 17 year old kid fucking run it around with some guy screaming at him, chasing him down. And then I see him turn around and shoot the guy. And then I see him running down a street.

Kyle Rittenhouse or something different? Wait, oh my God. Is that what you guys are asking me about? The Twitch partnership thing, right? Yeah, we're talking about Kyle Rittenhouse. You said a 17 year old kid. That's all. Yeah.

Oh yeah. This is what is leading into everything. Yeah. Okay. And then the next video is him like running down the street with like like a mob of people chasing like get him and some guy's got a skateboard and they attack him or whatever and then this kid obviously living out like the every single conservative fantasy dream is fucking rolling around on the ground with his fucking ak or his fucking ar-15 loaded like pop pop pop pop like fucking whatever

and i watch it and i'm like okay like i don't know why the fuck this kid is here with a fucking ar-15 or what a lot of being shit he's doing like this is like very obviously self-defense i've never seen anything more in my life where it's like this dude is being attacked by like 30 people like if you charge somebody down with a with a fucking rifle you're i don't know what the fuck you expect to happen like the fuck is wrong with you if i attack somebody with a rifle personally i'm expecting to die or kill the other person that's just how it goes i'm charging somebody and they're showing me a weapon they're basically saying like yo if we fight like this is what it's going to come down to and you know one of us will die

yeah exactly yeah um and i would expect them to know that too like i'm not going to charge somebody with a gun expecting them to find me with their fists you know um and then after this you know obviously some of these clips go on twitter people blow it up like destiny thinks that all black lives matter. Protesters are evil and blah, blah, blah. And I do a little bit more research,

a little bit reading. And then a couple of people come on to argue with me over this. And then I just get into these ridiculous arguments where personally, I don't think it's that controversial. Like if somebody is trying to burn down your business, okay. I support property rights. Okay. And I support self-defense.

Somebody's going to burn your shit down. Um, I think you have a right to protect your shit. Like that's how I feel. It wasn't his shit. I't i come from carry on yeah wait what it wasn't his stuff right this is it wasn't his stuff but like it was like his city right like it was something that now people in the chat are gonna say oh he drove across a different state he worked in the city it's like a 15 minute drive across state lines right um people burning down private businesses and communities is really really really fucked up i'm all for protesting and i'm even for rioting against like public buildings we're gonna go fucking flip a cop car

burn down a precinct and fucking go for it but as soon as you start torturing private businesses i mean like you're putting a target on your back and almost rightfully so like i'm in a video game i gotta be very careful with how i talk i guess people we're talking about gta here just run around i how much you clearly had to do that. And you just add in a video game. You can't just run around setting people's shit on fire and expect somebody not to take a stand. Yeah, you're going to get three stars. They're coming for you.

And basically, I started to have more conversations about this. And personally, on a political pragmatic level, Trump is fucked. He is so fucked in so many different ways. The only possible way that Trump could ever claw his way back to winning the upcoming election is if all of these protests continue, all of these riots keep happening. And I keep getting videos of fucking CNN anchors

saying, well, it's not that violent with the fucking world burning down behind them. Yeah. And I'm incredibly angry in this argument, so I'm just going to read the quote so people don't think I'm mincing words. My quote exactly was, the rioting needs to fucking stop. Hold on, I'm reading a quote here. I don't endorse any of this. I say, the rioting needs to fucking stop. If that means white redneck

fucking militia dudes out there mowing down dipshit protesters that think they can torch buildings at 10 p.m., then at this point, they have my fucking blessing because holy shit, this fucking shit needs to stop it needs to stop it needed to stop a long time ago so that was my whole clip obviously a little bit more hyperbolic than it should have been i still support fundamentally the right of people to defend their businesses or the business of their city with lethal force if they need to but basically people took that and made it sound like i want nazis to go in and just start shooting black people indiscriminately

when they protest is how they got to do and then twitch emailed me from their legal department, and they said, we're unpartnering you. And it's like, okay, whatever. And then they didn't respond to any emails, and I just got unpartnered 30 days later. So now I don't make any money or ad revenue or subs from Twitch, which is about $20,000 a month of income that's just out the fucking toilet, which is fun. And yeah, that was my Twitch adventure. Christ.

So losing the partnership, you don't get anything other than donations, right? Like pure cash. I have a sub system on my site and then I can get donations and like super chats. Cause now I can do a stream. Destiny.gg. So if they want to like support you there, your viewers, they should go to destiny.gg. Yeah. I mean, I'm not promoting my site here or anything like that. I'm not like, yeah, but that's like, that's my website.

That's where I go. I am following along with this complex series of events. I am promoting your site here because I think what happened to you was nonsense because I agree fundamentally with everything you said. And I also watched the video and felt the exact same way. Now at the initial event that sort of sparked the second event, like, like that is where it's, it is where it's very murky to me because the footage is bad

and I can't really tell exactly what's happening. But from what I see, I don't see him being in self-defense mode. Like someone threw like a bag at him or something. Like I don't know what's happening there. Yeah, so I'm not going to plug my channel, but I have a huge video where for the first five minutes, I've got a really sick editor that puts together

like all the video footage that's happened. So what happens is, is what we can see is a guy, there is one guy chasing Kyle and then a guy behind him. And that guy behind him shoots a fucking pistol into the air. He just fires a shot into the air as Kyle's being chased. Kyle turns around and then there's a guy chasing him with some, he tries to throw like a bag or something at him.

And then eventually he gets close enough that Kyle shoots him. I think like three or four or five times or whatever but um the only people say that the initial footage is murky the only possible thing that could make this initial footage like fucked for kyle is if he was literally like standing in front of a crowd saying like i'm gonna walk over there and start killing you guys or something like i can't think of many other situations where like you've got a 17 year old kid being chased by two people one shoots a pistol in the air where he's like not justified to protect he must have had some insanely inciting moment before that that i can't even really conceive of all right wait so that pistol shot

i've seen this footage so many times it seemed almost unrelated to what was going on between kyle and plastic bag dude right that guy was 100 meters away not shooting a car written house now you could argue that i'm still going i didn't interrupt you for the last 10 minutes of the show so you could make an argument that kyle rittenhouse was made a reasonable but incorrect guess that that shot was at him right you could say oh he mistakenly thought that that gunshot was at him and it made him scared. It doesn't make him right.

It just makes him not crazy, right? Because that guy wasn't shooting at him. That guy wasn't looking at Kyle Rittenhouse. That guy wasn't involved in Kyle Rittenhouse. So to me, what's murky and missing is how did Kyle Rittenhouse approach these guys who were going to vandalize used cars, right? Did he say, look, not on my watch, buddy. I will fucking murder all of you. No one makes a used car more scratched

while I'm fucking here. I am Captain Used Car, and I protect used car lots around the nation. Used cars are my passion, and you won't Just an awful superhero. He's an old cavalier. Get your hands off that Corsica.

I'll get out of the car. He gives his mom a kiss before he gets out of the car. Right, right, right. So Kyle's there looking to protect used cars because that's what he's all about. He's not living out some conservative gun fantasy where he takes on blm with his ar-15 no no no no it's about protecting used cars he didn't bring a gun to the thing to protect himself no no he's really trying to save these used cars and the guy responds to alpha throws a plastic bag at him written house shoots him and by that shooting to me is unclear i know i'm

painting it out like kyle's a fool and whatever but that that shooting is me is unclear. I know I'm painting it out like Kyle's a fool and whatever, but that shooting is unclear. And then every other shooting after that is based on the first one, right? And I've made this analogy before. If I go into a school shooting and shoot one kid in the face and then say, all right, so that one's iffy. But after that, it was all self-defense. They all started coming at me.

Teachers, gym teachers, English teachers, they were coming at me left But after that, it was all self-defense. They all started coming at me. Teachers, gym teachers, English teachers, they were coming at me left and right. The rest were all self-defense. What a ludicrous comparison. I shot one child, but after that, I was just defending myself, right? The problem with the comparison, though, in order to make that analogous, though,

it would have to be like the guy shot a kid and people weren't clear what happened, and then the guy's like walked off the school campus, and now teachers are fucking chasing him into the parking lot. At which case, it it's like what the fuck are you chasing you with a gun like what do you hope to accomplish like if you don't know what's happening that isn't yeah so this guy might have been a fortnite player yeah so the question is like what led to that first shooting did kyle shit was the guy defending himself who would have otherwise damaged used

cars when kyle approached him with the weapon what can i just interject i like it when we call him written house all right i will do my best i'm sorry i feel you yeah yeah so so it was that first shooting by written house a good good one? And it might have been. I really have a hard time deciding. But the problem is that like, even if that was- The rest of them were all based on that. I just, I would need an unimaginable

scenario events leading up to it. Again, you have a 17 year old kid and this is just so, I'm a 32 year old man now, okay? 32 year old man. If I see a 17 year old kid running away with a rifle and I chase that guy down, we're fighting to the death. I know that. 32 year old man now. Okay. 32 year old man. If I see a 17 year old kid running away with an, with a rifle and I chased that guy down, we're fighting to the death. I know that that has to

be the case. There's no world. There's no sane world. Assuming this guy is a sober mind where he's going to let me punch him, beat the shit out of him and take his firearm from him. Like, so I just, I can't imagine where you've got a kid. And the problem is another thing too, when we talk about that first shooting, like he was was running away unless we're imagining that he was just running away to turn around and start shooting like he's clearly running and the guy is clearly chasing him like is he just supposed to like in that case is he just supposed to like okay well here's my rifle like do what you want sir like i don't know i just have a really hard time buying i read the wisconsin law on self-defense and um i think they call it a reset was the term in the law so when rittenhouse runs

away he sort of reset the engagement right and you could argue that like even if he went in there pointed the gun at him or fucking hit him with the butt of it right like let's let's make it extreme when he runs away he kind of reset it the other guy you know my is uh you know he could have stopped it there but the other guy kept it going now the other guy becomes the aggressor and that might be written houses the fact that he ran might save his whole life that makes the other two defense that makes the first one defense etc and even morally that should be the case and a lot of people understand this like if i'm at a bar and some guy like pulls out a knife to like stab me and I have my Glock on me and I shoot the dude, then like we're clear.

But if I'm at a bar and a guy pulls out a knife to stab me and we kind of like stare at each other for a little bit and then he sheathes it, he goes and he walks in the parking lot and then I go out in the parking lot and then I take my gun and shoot him. It's like, well, hold on. We're in it. This is a totally different situation. Like, yeah, he might have threatened me earlier, but like that we've deescalated from that now, you know?

Yeah, I agree both. And I think in that case at least in wisconsin both legally and morally it's the same although i do like that you distinguish like ah there's legal and then there's moral and they're not always perfectly aligned has anything happened with that yet probably not because it happened so slow legally uh you know there's a little news do you want to say it kyle this looks like you're excited i don't know the new news he was found at a bar wearing a t-shirt that said free as fuck free as fuck throwing white supremacist gang signs or something and now this was the white supremacist gang was that it was the upside down i don't even

know but um no the upside down one means you get to punch someone in the arm i thought i was punching the dick look oh jeez you guys play hardcore i i went to an all boys high school so we might have a different rule okay well that's more intense i wouldn't have played the dick punching game it was it was a solid slug to the arm if you caught somebody you put it next to your dick and if you caught him looking at it i'm worried i have my facts wrong now i do my best i might have fucked it up maybe he was literally saying okay but they're talking about changing his bond agreement based on this event so we'll see if i don't know the details of it like maybe it goes higher maybe he needs to come

up with more bail i don't know but the free as fuck t-shirt is kind of unmistakable he's kind of flaunting it i mean wouldn't you if you just got out on fucking bail like wouldn't you feel good to be out like no, no, no. I would know that I have an upcoming trial. I would mind my P's and Q's. I would be a model citizen. I would not be flashing. Well, let's skip the gang sign thing because that could be wrong.

But I would not be wearing a free as fuck T-shirt antagonizing people. Yeah. It would be funny if he got arrested for being in a bar underage isn't he 17 that was i don't know yeah i is it a place where you are there bars where you can go there under age and not drink like that exists right why would you go could you know dance club that so i i was raised in a um like a resort area and that'd say there were things like that where i grew up okay if there's like a bar and like over 50 of their sales are non-alcoholic or whatever they might allow like kids in their sub shed i don't know that's the case yeah yeah no there were places that underage people could go to where i grew up and oh i'm sorry actually yeah like the same is

true in athens there are there are a few places that you could go even when you're under age yeah that's true so uh we we jump past that to the Rittenhouse thing but back to the Twitch so like that that really thorough way to lay it out why it happened so as far as moving forward what does that mean for you are you still using Twitch as your primary streaming place are you doing it independently on your own site I know you have a big YouTube following like have you kind of structured out what you're going to do moving forward are you playing it independently on your own site? I know you have a big YouTube following. Have you kind of structured out what you're going to do moving forward? Are you playing it by ear? No, I mean, it's been some months now. It's been like six months.

I don't even know, dude. The whole 2020 was simultaneously very long and very short. So I have no idea. Yeah, I just, I do a stream now. I stream to YouTube and Twitch. And then I'm taking my YouTube a lot more seriously. And I still get donations and stuff. So I'm doing okay.

I'm not like in the poor house or anything. So yeah. That's right. You're still in la aren't you you i think you had just moved there or you were about to move there last time we talked yeah i i live a little bit south of there on huntington beach but i'm probably about to move over to austin so oh why austin you're moving from california to texas isn't that that's like uh it's very trendy yeah it's like old people moving to florida it's like you have to if you're california it's more like people that make more than 20k a year don't want to get fucking their

wallets destroyed every two like they're crazy okay and we don't i wouldn't mind the taxes here too i felt like i was getting something more but like man this state is fucked all right i'm going to texas what are the taxes like how high are they isn't it like nine percent state tax over like a hundred thousand in income or something? I'd have to look, but... I'm not sure. I know they're higher than Texas is because Texas is state tax is zero. Yeah.

I wonder... That's a great number. That is the ideal number. I wonder if they have it somewhere else. Sometimes the state taxes is zero, but property taxes are outrageous. No, I that if they find their tax revenue somewhere else you know sometimes they do that they might but in general like tax revenue aside ignoring the state and city budgets the cost of living is just so much higher

in any place most people want to be in california like it's ridiculous austin's really nice did you like california for a while when you got out there or did you pretty much immediately like fuck this i'm getting out uh i only moved to where my friends are I don't really care much I like I like the only reason I'm on the show is because I got popular playing Starcraft 2 which was a video game for fucking losers so I sit inside my computer like all day and I just play video games okay I'm not like going out partying every night okay the game for fucking losers hey ladies uh I'm a protoss main yeah that's I've stopped by your stream before when you've been playing that. I'm like, okay, okay.

All right, which one's he? Contrary to popular belief. Oh, this is the intro. Oh, okay. Trying to show, bringing up your ladder steps on your phone and showing it to girls at the club. Not really the big panty dropper some people might expect it to be. Yeah, and if it does drop their panties,

you have a million other red flags to account for. Potentially, yeah. But, yeah. I mean, like I said, there's a lot of things to do here and everything. I'm sure that if you were like chasing an acting career or doing something in broadcasting or other artistic related things or other stuff in LA, there's a lot of reasons to be here. But all the streamer people live in Austin.

The state tax here is insane. The pollution is kind of gross. In Austin? You're talking about California. I'm talking about California right now. I just want to talk it. Yeah. I'm stressed out

hearing how much money that you lost from losing your Twitch partnership. Every time I get those emails that come in, and I just got one today because I still get some weird residual subscribers that are really old. It's like, oh, you got paid $100 today.

And it's like, oh, cool. Five months ago, that would have said $23,000, and that money has just completely evaporated into thin air. It's a little stressful for sure. The fact that you don't seem that stressed is what boggles me. I'm like, he lost $240,000 a year in income or more. Hey, wait, wait, wait. We don't have to stressed is what boggles me i'm like he lost 240 000 a year in income or more okay hey wait wait we don't have to like fucking say it out like that again my bad my bad he lost 20 grand in four years he's probably been working into an early grave now oh

my goodness i bet he drinks a lot now 23 grand and 24 grand this far. I say, all right, but I'm the crazy one. Dozens of dollars a year. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, yeah, it was kind of like a kick in the pants. But, you know, I'm fine. I mean, it sucks, but I have a really lucky background for coming into this. My life before streaming was fucking shit. I was doing fucking 13-day stretches every other Sunday off,

cleaning carpets like making like 1500 to 2000 a month or whatever so like i'm incredibly blessed to do what i do um i've always been kind of like all right well this sucks what can we do to fix it to move forward and i'm a very like forward moving kind of person because it's all you can do you know i was very stressed the day it happened i drank a lot had a big panic attack sorted all my feelings out but then yeah day two it's time to yeah figure out literally have a panic attack panic attack like the wow can you talk about it like what what is did you fall to the ground like that kind of panic attack um i don't know how big do we want to go into this um it's really really hard to explain um kyle gets those two so he'll understand what you're saying yeah i go conscious yeah he passed out in the courtroom like yeah okay yeah well i uh no that was a different

courtroom just to be clear that was when i was 20 this happened to me 21 yeah i went down in a couple of courtrooms sometimes you just drive by he's like a fainting goat yeah pretty much yeah no but the incident taylor's talking about is when um it's like i donainting goat. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, no. The incident Taylor's talking about is when it's like, I don't know what it's called, maybe arraignment or something like that. It's like the first part of federal court when they're reading out all of the charges. And I hadn't heard some of them before. And I certainly hadn't heard them come out of the...

I'd heard them come out of my lawyer's voice. He like oh yeah and then there's this thing don't worry about that don't worry about that that's that's getting squashed right away and then there's this thing we talked to atf they're like you know if it were me i'd go to court on that because that one's bullshit they don't so don't worry about that and then there's this little thing in this little thing and the maximum for those are this and that i'm just all right so that's very calming and then you get to court and the prosecutor is like and this and that and the other while doing this and the and then it just keeps going for like eight more charges and i like whisper to my lawyer i'm about to go unconscious you've got 60 seconds to get me a chair

I'm about to go unconscious. You've got 60 seconds to get me a chair. Nice. Very nice. And he's like, can we get a chair? He just fell over. Is that how it went down? Did they get you a chair?

They got me a chair. They got me a chair. I stayed conscious, but I needed the chair. Fanning yourself. So yeah, you're among at least one. I've never had a pass out like that. It sounds terrifying and awful. Was it something like that that you experienced that day um it's kind of weird up until i was like i'm not not trying to derail too much i'm telling this 30 i've never

had any mental issue ever in my life i've never had anxiety depression anything like that i'm just a rock solid stable mind um and then when i was 30 i decided oh wow people talk about mushrooms let's try like a fuck ton of these and after that i've had some problems and one of those was that i experienced a panic attack which led to me being able to experience more so when i experience a panic attack it's it's really hard to explain um or maybe it's not maybe normal feeling sense i've never felt like terror in my life like generally i feel um when something bad happens i usually feel like a nervous excitement um and it usually like propels me forward like i want to do something like oh cool whatever um but i guess when i have a panic attack it's just um it's this feeling of absolute and total certainty that you're about to die i don't know why or how that's just like and it's hard to

explain what that feels like because generally when you associate like near death like if i'm in my car and like a truck tries to merge into me like the adrenaline will get pumping and i'll be like oh you know brakes whatever and you're very very excited this is not like that kind of excitement at all it's just a very depressive, horrible feeling that like starts to go through your body that like, fuck everything is over. Um, and I think my, my biggest fear at the time was that I know how inefficient Twitch is and how many different institutions exist inside Twitch. And I wasn't sure because the departing came from the legal team. I didn't know if there was a

permaban working its way through the other part of the system. So I was kind of in limbo there because I wasn't sure if a big ban was coming. And that uncertainty is something that really stresses me. For all humans, nobody likes uncertainty. It's your fight or flight system being out of whack. And it just goes to the max. And it can't do either like like i i have some panic attacks where i'm able to like use some breathing techniques and kind of like focus and pull myself like right the the ship

and pull out of it but uh sometimes it's like we're going down we're going down everyone breaks for impact like like i need to find a couch or the floor quickly because like i have passed out and like you normally when you trip and fall like you break your fall but when you go unconscious you just collapse like a house of cards so like I've fallen on like concrete before one time and just like fucked my elbow

up and like you could die you could die yeah yeah I fell what height I didn't hear head height six feet just hitting your head on the ground you're fucked it's not uncommon the ground might be in trouble for me it fighters they can get hurt because they collapse in a bad way right like you're not supposed to land on your shoulder like that or bend you knee the wrong way and if you're just out like knocked out like a fighter

would be they often like bust an acl even though it was a hit to the chin you fall like a video where he just becomes a crumpled spider oh god i could i could i could see that video in my head it was such a bad injury i think when you get knocked on like a concussion i think that when you get knocked out i think your your body has a response when you do a particular thing where you stand up or something yeah that's why you see like when people get knocked out, they just go down and they're just looking very inhuman. It can be weird for refs because the fencing response

can be mistaken in some situations for a defensive posture. They're still defending themselves, maybe trying to hold you off, but that's not what happens. I'm just out, cold with one arm up. You know who I feel bad for in Ultimate Fighting? The guys who have embarrassing fencing responses.

Some of the guys fully erect, torqued. That guy's out. It's a turgid powerful response. Some of them look like they're casting a spell. They're falling down. It's like, dude, that guy's got a bitch fencing response.

Poor guy with a limp-wristed fencing response. Yeah, very effeminate. He's a loser. He lost and he sucks. To your point about the anxiety, like, I haven't had a panic attack so far, but I've had, like, stress in my life. And the biggest stresses are when I'm not the solution, right? Like, if I'm managing someone and my team has this problem

or if it's just out of my hands, if it's someone else's decision, if I can work and fix it, then that's not the stress level. That's not my big problem. That puts me in work mode. If I'm just waiting to see what someone else deals my way, that's crushing.

That's so hard to work with. Yeah, exactly. Exactly the same. I've heard that's pretty common, that's crushing. That's so hard to work with. Yeah, exactly. Exactly the same. And I've heard that's pretty common that like the difference between there's a, there's a book about, I don't know what it's called the upset of stress. I don't remember, but apparently a lot of the traditional thoughts of stress are supposedly incorrect that being stressed as bad or being stressed for long periods of time is bad that we always think this because cortisol is negative. Supposedly the argument that this book made, I've had a friend summarize this book to me, and then I read a few paragraphs, I don't know the

whole book. But supposedly, the argument that this book goes on to make is that stress is only bad when you feel stressed, and you don't have the tools to deal with it. And when I think back to a lot of my life, I had because a lot of people always ask, Oh, how do you deal with stress, blah, blah, blah, blah. And like, I just by the nature of how I've come up, like, I've always kind of been on my own and figuring things out. Like, I've got like some stressful events, we usually are all like problems that can be solved. And it's like, that's like a, an exciting thing for me. Like, holy shit. Like I just got banned on Twitch. Like where else can I make money from? Like, do I need to start doing shirts? Do I need to go back to building computers? Like, can I push my YouTube harder? Like, well,

what are the platforms kind of streaming? Like, it's usually like, okay, well, what can we do to solve the problem and move forward? And that can be like exciting. As long as you feel like you have the tools to deal with whatever adversarial thing is presented to you i don't think the stress is usually as bad sometimes it can spur you on to like some kind of greater action yeah yeah he never got stressed he wouldn't get anything done yeah titus the comedian i think we've had him on the show he has this routine i can't deliver it like he does but he's like you know people are worried about anxiety that's how the mortgage gets paid and somehow that burned into my head like yeah sometimes actually that that's how the mortgage is paid i've got a little anxiety i gotta get

shit done it's motivating sometimes to be clear the long-term anxiety that could come about of just being perpetually fucked in life though is not a good like the anxiety that i have now as a streamer is always exciting because i've got a plethora of options available to me. Twelve years ago when I was falling behind on my house payments, when my ex-girlfriend was pregnant, and when my job fucking sucked, that anxiety was not good. I didn't feel spurred on to action. I just felt like my life was completely fucking over and there was nothing good about that. So there are differences. It totally depends on like where you're at in life in terms of like what can feel exciting.

I understand. I'm interested in what you said with – you said like up until 30, you were rock solid. You never really had stress, anxiety issues. And then you did a bunch of mushrooms. Usually you're like the Joe Rogan kind of crowd being like, oh, you got to do this to recenter and get your, I don't know the language. Upgrade your RPG character permanently. Yeah, something like whatever Joe Rogan would say.

So like, you didn't experience that at all? Did you have a really bad time? I mean, I upgraded myself. I unlocked a whole set of feelings and emotions that I didn't know existed but the problem is a lot of those are negative so like i've been so bad like i'm serious i've just i've never been depressed or i've never had anxiety like i didn't even know how a concept what was out or like anything like that um basically just like or go ahead what are you saying no i was saying that's wild that you never experienced that and then was it shortly after you did all the mushrooms you started to experience this

um no it was like three months later actually i did um and it almost i it almost seems like maybe they were disconnected i have a hard time believing that um i so basically i had one trip where um i'd smoked a bit i'd eaten some edibles and i i was like okay mushrooms must be like weed i guess maybe a little stronger so i just i ate an unstupid some edibles and i i was like okay mushrooms must be like weed i guess maybe a little stronger so i just i ate an unstupid amount of mushrooms and then i had like an unimaginably fucking insane like life-changing life-altering trip that is indescribable in any words that i can think of and then three months later um i was downstairs and i was sitting at my desk and i wish i could describe this better but i I'm just, I'm sitting at my desk and just,

I'm not doing anything. I have no stress right now. My life is fine. I'm thinking like doing emails or something dumb. And all of a sudden I just feel like this little, like, oof, like this little tick.

And I'm like, oof, that was weird or whatever. And I remember thinking exactly at that moment that I'd had a friend that had described panic attacks and we make fun of them all the time. Like you're such a loser who gets panic attacks. I remember thinking like, Oh my God,

like, wouldn't that be funny if I was getting a panic attack after making fun of him for years for it and then in the next second i was like yeah and then in the next second i was like oh something is happening i wonder if i'm memeing myself into a panic attack like this is really dumb i'm gonna just get up and go upstairs because something is happening and then the process of me standing up and starting to walk up the stairs i this horrible feeling of dread just like washes over me. And I guess I supposedly I was hyperventilating,

but I don't remember any of this. I just remember walking up the stairs and feeling absolutely certain that I was about to die. I walked upstairs, I sat on my couch and it was just the most horrible fucking feeling in the world. As I just sat like sat there, like staring into nothing,

like feeling like so absolutely fucking horrible. And that was like my, my first ever panic attack set off by nothing and just, yeah. Yeah. That sounds awful. This doesn't sound like an upgrade at all to me. Like,

Oh, I upgraded. I learned about weight gain and gray hair and weakness. Um, the big, I don't know how deep we want to run down the philosophy. And the biggest upgrade that I got was at one part of my, in one part of my trip.

So there's a feeling called, um, there's a, there's a term called ego death. And what ego death is, is that if you consume enough of certain psychedelic substances, what happens is, is that you kind of have like an operating system that runs your reality. And if you take enough of a certain drug, you can kind of break down your upper level associations with that. And it gives you the chance to kind of I'm going to say step back, but kind of like see like, see like oh shit like everything i see normally in life is like super filtered through all of my senses or whatever i'm trying to explain this in the least like super druggy jerk off way possible right but that's essentially what it is like imagine you're watching like your

whole life is looking through your phone and then you have ability to kind of like step like a foot back from that and see like whoa holy shit like everything i see is like filtered through this experience and i'm breaking that down a little and i remember that experience, um, there's one part where I'm kind of like sitting down on a couch and throughout this entire six hour trip, I keep having the thought I did way too many mushrooms. I broke through into figuring out what actual reality is. I wish I could just go back. This is so fucking horrible. I took way too many mushrooms. I didn't want to come here. I made a mistake. I am not, I'm actually not ready for the real reality. And the one thing that I took away from that that trip was that that kind of like very

visceral thought um i'm a big like debate lord brainiac intellectual whatever you like to oh youtube whatever um going into that trip my prior to that in my life i always would have thought that like knowledge or intelligence is something that should be desired for sake of itself like knowledge is just good by virtue of it being knowledge and then coming out of that trip what i realized was holy fuck there might actually be some things that even if they're true, I don't know if I would actually want to know them. Like I prefer the fake reality of whatever this life is to the truth reality of like sitting in front of a TV that is the center of the universe that was like mushrooms.

So maybe actually knowledge in and of itself isn't good. It's only knowledge that you can acquire that can make you happier. So that was like my big takeaway from that. This is going down a very far road, but that was like my big takeaway from that experience. Yeah. I love it. Um, did you have a mushroom tour guide when you took it? Like it, I'm always told that if you're going to do something like this, you find an expert who makes sure your dosage is right. Make sure you have a good experience. Did you do that? I'm so incredibly arrogant. Okay. I just am very arrogant. Um, my goal was I wanted to have the

worst trip possible. So what I did was there were two strangers and then a couple of kind of friends that i had one of which was very persistent um i did it in an unknown environment and then i took three times the recommended like big trip dose to just fucking blast my mind because i was like i'm probably just gonna get really high and no so i didn't have like any anything like that and it was a yeah it was the worst possible way that you could approach a trip like that and because some people will listen to me describe it like oh this sounds cool like i should do it um if i would have more responsibly kind of dosed myself into having like good trips i think i could have gotten all of the knowledge that i have now without like all of the horrible mental side effects that i'd seem to suffered

afterwards for at least a year or two um but yeah a year or two so what would you call this like 2017 um fuck i posted a video of my trip on youtube somewhere but i think it was a couple i think it was a couple years ago it was like 2018 2019 um so i'm about two and a half years i think away from that experience right now yeah wow that's heavy like every now and then i'll get like a bout of like um i guess so for some examples there are three like distinct things i remember so in one thing there i had a period of like three days and now this might be where it feels bullshit because i'm tying this back to my mushroom experience it might not be maybe it just randomly happened after i did mushrooms there was a period of three days where

i um had like what i can only describe as like general anxiety disorder, like this weird general anxiety with the world. I am I am like a relentlessly confident person. The most I know, I feel very good about myself, my life and everything. During this three day period, I saw the text. I'm like texting my kid's mom saying like, hey, like I need you to keep my kid away from me for the rest of my life. Like I'm a horrible person. Like don't ever let me see him again.

Like like I was just like unbelievably and even looking back on this, like what the fuck is happening in my head. And then I had another like very, very short period. It was like two or three days of like an experience of an absence of desire, which is actually the scariest fucking thing in the world. When you don't want to do anything and you don't have a desire to want to do anything. And I think that these two experiences gave me such a new perspective on mental illness, I had so much more respect for people that suffer with that on a daily basis. I've always been a person who it's like, hey, you know, if you're prescribed an SSRI, you know, do that in therapy, you should do whatever you know, you need to to fix your problems, blah, blah, blah. But personally,

I would never take an SSRI because like, my mind is too strong for that. I don't want to change myself, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When I was experiencing like these two states, I would have fucking lobotomized myself or taken any fucking drug or done anything i needed to break back it's like when you're yeah yeah it was just a horrible horrible thing i one of the one of the takeaways i have of like the human mind is i used to think that like 10 of your brain is like this weird underlying you know like subconscious mood shit and then like 90 is like these are your active thoughts this is what you have control over. And I totally flipped that in and of itself, like to where now it feels like there's this whole under part of your mind that you are not really aware of. And then you

kind of, you think a little bit on top, but a lot of the credit goes into this lower stuff. Um, and it does you well to understand that. Um, cause you need to do what you can to fix that stuff rather than just like, think like, Oh, well I can just be positive forever and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Would you recommend it to people to try hallucinogens or do you think it was a net negative at least for you i would absolutely recommend it it's a i'm disappointed that i was 30 before a whole other world if you do psychedelics and you should do them responsibly but when you went on a big trip it is it is just nothing will ever cut you it's like a whole other world it's the closest you it's unbelievable it's the closest you it's unbelievable

it's unimaginable it's unbelievable it's nothing like being high it's just like i can't explain it i can't for those that have done it they they'll know and then if you haven't like it sounds really stupid and i mean like i hope i'm like it scares the shit out of me so like i feel like i 18 out of 20 19 out of 20 have my shit together. And it's like, hey, you want to reroll? I don't think so. That sounds like a bad idea. I mean, it's not going to change you completely. Like, I think I'm more or less the same.

Like, if you watch videos of me now and three years ago, like, I'm still this rambunctious, loud asshole, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It gives me more perspective, I guess, which is good. I think gaining more perspective is always a positive. What do you know? Joe Rogan knocks it out of the park with his hallucination. You know what? I like Stevia now. That son of a bitch was right about Stevia.

Except shrooms aren't even as intense as he goes. Or I don't know the stack ranking of intensity, but he talks about ayahuasca, which I think is cactus juice that you drink a lot of it yeah a lot of it depends on dosages and everything as well like mushrooms or lsd can be very very very intense like i'm pretty sure a big mushroom or a big lsd trip can be similar to like a dmt trip except mushrooms or lsd are because you can, because those last six hours or 12 hours respectively. Whereas for DMT, it feels like a long time, but 15 minutes and you're in and out. But like, yeah, I was good. DMT are not the same thing, right? I think DMT

is an extract from ayahuasca, isn't it? Am I wrong on that? Oh shit. Oh, maybe that's how they get it. I thought DMT was its own hyper intense. They sound totally different. different yeah they are different you know now i would sound like full of shit if i said so ayahuasca contains large concentrations of dmt around 80 milligrams per 100 milliliter infusion may cause visual hallucination blah blah yeah so ayahuasca is much different the experience is a lot different than dmt like i think this is like a day-long thing you like purge from your body you vomit and all this stuff to do like your big trip whereas dmt is generally smoked and you do like two or three big hits and then you have your huge breakthrough moment and it's like 15 minutes in and out i have a couple what was that drug we were watching or all of us

we were watching a long time ago this drug where people would go into the amazon and they would like ayahuasca i have a bunch of friends that have done ayahuasca it's it's oddly popular in the paragliding community to do like go places and smoke ayahuasca. It's oddly popular in the paragliding community to go places and smoke ayahuasca. People with so much money, they don't know what to do. Robin Quivers from The Stern Show did it. And she talks about just vomiting a lot. But they come back changed, right? They're changed.

They're like, I have a new thing. I'm ditching social media. I have this broader outlook, love, and peace. And I have discovered what life should be about and how persons should be. And now I'm that person. And then two and a half weeks later, they're the old person. It's just all it is. You need more ayahuasca.

Apparently, you got to top it off every couple of weeks. All it is is a new perspective. That's it it you can go through it in a crazy experience and in a week you can get back to normal or like the i like the way that i would describe it is like imagine if you could go into a room and somebody could show you five new colors that you could have never imagined seeing before like that's what it's like it's that sounds appealing yeah but you i like colors i don't know i'm i'm doing so well with the color palette I have. I had a rough time on mushrooms. They caused a panic attack. It was just very stressful.

Yeah, but you went to Walmart. That was your bed. That seemed like the best place to have a trip. Oh, dude. Are you hungry on mushrooms or no? People there already look like monsters, though. You want to be where the other people are tripping, I guess. Look at these people.

They're so hideous. Dude, you're not even tripping yet. This is Walmart. We're only five minutes in, dude. Yeah. This is the kind of Walmart with a cracker barrel in the parking lot. So double dipping. It has a Sonny's barbecue in the parking lot, actually, which is where we retreated to.

It was our safe place. has a sunny's barbecue in the parking lot actually which is where we retreated to it was our safe place you know something with hallucinogens is you never hear about people or at least i don't you never hear about people getting addicted to them like someone who's addicted to lsd or someone that's addicted to ayahuasca no one of the nice things about psychedelics is that like you can when you do mushrooms or lsd um those are the two i have experienced with or i imagine it's probably the same for dmt and other um other types of hallucinogenics like when you do those and then you're done you're like oh all right glad i did that it's not something that it's like i gotta do that again and again and again it's just not that

type of thing um i i wish i could describe it better it's hard to say it's kind of like i don't know if i can very like swimming across like kind of a scary river it better it's hard to say it's kind of like i don't know if i convert to like swimming across like kind of a scary river like you it's the water's moving not so much that you're gonna die but like if you fuck up maybe you will and there's like a waterfall over there so you swim across the river and you make the other side you're like oh fuck like i'm fuck that's awesome that i made it i'm really glad i did it i had a lot of fun it was kind of scary i don't need to do that again and again and again like i'm good on that like generally people will do it

and then maybe six months later a year, they'll do it. There are some people who will do it every week. I would do that repeatedly. Swimming across dangerous rivers. I don't know. Defying death. I'd do that. If you want to play, take the shrooms.

A big mushroom experience, then that might be for you the thing that i said over and over again while i was tripping um especially in the beginning next to the guy on the couch i was begging him over here like please don't let me die don't let me die i think i'm dying please let me i said like a million fucking times so if i have a death-like experience is what you're looking for ego death literally you'll have the feeling of being dead that's really hard to explain but yeah that sounds so scary yeah so can you see yourself i know kyle you can't everybody's begging for drinking episodes because it's been years

because of your your situation the pains and i know i know what do you hate drinking more than anything in the world maybe next time kyle and i'll drink you can do a shrooms no no you're you take shrooms over there kyle now i'll drink here we'll do a shrooms. No, no. You're fucking. You take shrooms over there. Kyle and I'll drink here. We'll kind of steer the ship. You made it worse. We could. I think they're legal now in Washington State or maybe Oregon.

Somewhere up there. Like shrooms are legal. They're legal everywhere if you're sneaky. No, Taylor. I'll do shrooms if you do battery acid. So, yeah. I'll do shrooms if we go. If we go to where mushrooms are legal if we go to where mushrooms are legal i'll do mushrooms and obviously if we go to where

pot is legal i'll uh i'll get i'll just get crazy crazy high i'll i'll take a thousand milligrams of edibles and just melt down on the show i don't care would that not be the worst show ever like this is the sleeping episode yeah oh i'm not gonna go to sleep i'm gonna say some things okay i don't know i don't know i don't know we didn't ask you like it like booze hits other people you're just like another thing it's like did he drink anything no he's just really stoned just just really weird racism let me tell you how i feel about estonia i'm started now forget not getting me started those estonians i've always thought about like like a psychedelic stream would i always think like maybe it'd be fun but the reality is is

it's not really the same from the outside as on the inside so basically you'd be like sitting there on camera like with your eyes going wide and no one would have any fucking idea what's going on very internal you know yeah i've been around people when like in a babysitting scenario not that i chose to babysit just that i didn't do any and they were on shrooms and i remember like thinking about it this was in college first time i'd been around a bunch of people doing shrooms and i was like this is gonna be wild this is like harold and kumar style stuff like silliness is on the way and it's like no they spent an enormous amount of time staring and then some uh one of their sober friends got them in his like suv with a moon roof and they're like we're going to the gas station to get sodas they were gone for four and a half hours yeah oh my god they wouldn't let

me stop the car. They kept saying we have to keep going. One time I was at my girlfriend's house, and she had gone to work, so it just meant it was going to be a lazy day for me because I didn't have anything going on. I'm at her house all alone, and I think I got it in my head.

I don't remember what I was going for. I think I wanted to go to Best Buy and either buy her a new TV because I felt like her TV was too small for me. She didn't want a new TV. She was like, no, no, that's the perfect size for this room. And in my head, I'm just like, fuck you. You need a bigger TV.

I need a bigger TV in your house. We'll swap them out when I'm not here, if that's what it takes. But I need a bigger TV. So I just get crazy high. Like I hit the bong like eight times in a row just filling it up and emptying it out like like as fast as i can just and i'm quick you know if you see me reload a gun you know i'm pretty i've done it enough that i'm all right we're good to go that's how we draw with the bowl reload you can't imagine how quickly i can reload a bowl all right it's it pales in comparison anything you can do with a firearm and uh and so i i i

stumble out the door just blasted hop in my car and at the time i had um i didn't have like visual navigation i had that on star shit so i was just like like, OnStar, take me to Best Buy. And I guess I missed the part where she said the nearest Best Buy is like an hour and a half away. Because I thought it was right next door. So like, next thing I know, and I do mean the next thing I know, because time is a little warped when you're that high. Yes. I'm 30, 40 miles from her house on Interstate 285, which is a circle that goes around Atlanta. And I'm just like, the fuck has happened here?

I'm like, I press the button that tells me how much longer is left in my drive. And it says two and a half hours. And I'm like, oh, no, I've agreed to go to Tennessee. I'm like, I'm like, OnStar, take me to the nearest Best Buy. And I start going again. Four and a half hours, I got home. I never made it to Best Buy. I never made it.

Just one take again. What's the wrong way of the circle? I drove for four and a half hours touring Atlanta. I know Atlanta. That's lovely. There's no reason for me to go on a tour. I'm like, oh, yeah, I've been there before. It's the aquarium. And just around

and around the circle I went. I must have done a couple laps around 285. Ridiculous. I got home so afraid. I'm just sitting there in her living room like, never doing that again. It is unreal how much pot messes with your time perception. Like sitting in Colorado, we

were all playing magic. Like sitting and looking in between games or like during a game it'd be like like you'd have that thought in your head where it's like have we been playing magic for 40 minutes or 10 hours and like you look up and be like oh all right five hours kind of in the middle and it's like well but that's troubling because if i would have looked up and seen that 52 minutes had passed i'd be like ah right on the dot like it's so weird. You don't feel like it in the moment.

When you do high doses of psychedelics, it's that times a million. It is unreal how much your perception of time is, like, tied into other systems that you don't know are running all the time. So, I'm so glad I recorded my trip because watching back some of it, knowing what I experienced during the trip, and then watching myself on the video was crazy. So, one of the moments that I have during this trip is, um, so psychedelics tend to like kind of come and go in waves where you'll like, you'll start to feel it. And then you'll kind of come out of it a little bit like, Oh, I think I'm done. And then, Ooh, no, I'm not done. Right. Um, and towards, I think it was either towards the middle or maybe middle end ish. Um, there's a part where like, I, I feel like everything is normal again and I'm kind of sober.

And then I'll like slide back into this fucking world in my head. And it feels like when you would like go back to being high, you'd be stuck in these areas in your mind for like, I'm going to say like months at a time, but it's hard to quantify days, weeks, months. It's like an indeterminable, like a massive amount of time is passing. And I would have a friend that was like the, um, rec fall. Another streamer guy is, he was part of the thing, um, tripping with me. He would like shake me to be like, wait's up what's up and i'd come back and like oh my god i was like don't let me go again i don't want to go again anyway where are you going and then i would slip back for like weeks or days and then i would wake up to him

shaking me again he'd be like yo where are you going what's happening and uh when i watched this back on video because i wanted to see this part it's like oh when he was shaking me like i wonder how long i was like really out for it was like it was like this i was like oh man oh oh man oh it was like fucking it was like two seconds and i was like oh my god it's unbelievable or if you ever do um if you do psychedelics and you keep like a phone next to you which i think you're not supposed to do but i do it every time you can sit and stare and be in an area and you're like okay i started my mushrooms at i think nine o'clock um and i know they should be done at six hours. So I know by like three o'clock, I should be pretty sober again. And I think it's must have

been like four or five hours. And you'll check your phone, it'll be like 901. And you'll be like, oh, fuck, I'm fucked. Oh, my God. And like, you'll lose track. So it might be like 920. And then maybe you check your phone in like three more hours. And you look and your phone is like 918. You're like, Oh, God, what's happening?'s happening like oh no i'm forever and it's like oh my god it's so incredibly scary holy shit the way you describe it is horrifying yeah it is you should do it god it's so exciting maybe i just maybe i'm sadistic or is it sadism it would just well no now i guess i'm a sadist i'm telling you to try try it it's super duper fun holy shit but not a real idea maybe we'll give maybe we'll all go to seattle and get uncomfortably high and record the worst episode in history i'll go i'm down i'm just gonna be a square and that that would be no

that would be funny to put us all in like a marriott room and we all let's take it up a notch all right like mushrooms aren't hard like what if i can do better impressions on mushrooms no here's what we do we mix something that me and taylor like with something woody likes we get high as fuck on mushrooms then we go skydiving skydiving yeah i thought it was gonna be a substance i like like you know like you know like this is clearly just sugar like what the fuck we pick the substance you pick the activity the next time you pick the substance and we pick the activity that way it's fair yeah but what do you guys want to pick exactly that's why it's not fair why are we doing sugar and playing magic man like woody i'm so goddamn tired of you picking caffeine

just my heart palpitating i'm stressed out i. I don't like it. I've been enjoying like the past, I guess like five, six days. I had that bottle of 200 milligram caffeine pills on my bed stand for months after using them regularly, like a year ago, just stopped using them. Like five days ago, I started again and I don't drink a ton of caffeine compared to a lot of people. So I still get that like pleasurable buzz, but I had passed the point where like, if I drank a monster, a cup of coffee, like I wouldn't get that caffeine buzz as much. Like I'm taking these pills and I know taking these pills, it'll last forever. Like now I take one of these caffeine pills and like maybe 25 minutes later, I'm like, I'm like in a great mood. I'm like, not only am I awake, I'm like, let's seize, you know what?

Let's start the workout early. Let's do the workout longer. Let's go bananas. And I'm taking, what is it, a quarter of what? No, 20% of what Kyle takes. Kyle takes a gram a day, I think. You're taking 200 or something. 200 milligrams in the morning, and that's all the caffeine I have for the day. I have cut down on my caffeine.

I no longer take 800 milligrams at a time. But I have before. 800 milligrams is like, woo, the heart is racing. I was asleep and I woke up, but now I take like 400 milligrams, something like that. And that's plenty to get me like energized and having a good time. I haven't taken any today. I had like two cups of coffee before we started here. But if I, if you ever see me on the show, I'm gonna start talking really fast.

And you're like, Oh, is this? I say a lot of things really quickly i've had way too much caffeine that's what happens have me so jazzed about caffeine i went and bought it i bought it i have it it's downstairs i've never had one it's just ready that's the same bottle i got it on amazon there it's so cheap it's like this is like $8. Dude, they're giving caffeine away. It's 250 pills. It's a government conspiracy to make us productive. They just make caffeine free. It's 250 pills in there. I have the caffeine. I don't

really do drugs. That apparently includes caffeine. I haven't had one yet, but I have to try it. I got to work out tomorrow. See what's up. Yeah, just take one. Just take it early in the day. Don't be like, all right right 2 p.m time to pop this because if you're a sensitive i think caffeine stays in your system like seven hours right it's over for me in an hour and a half like it's gone yeah like if i need time

breaker do you know anything about caffeine pills um or caffeine caffeine doesn't do much for me i can like drink i tried i can drink like a five- hour energy go to sleep i don't know why well that's not caffeine oh i can drink a red bull go to sleep i don't know that matters i i've never done like serious like dosing i mean the most i'll ever get is like a red bull i can drink like red bulls that's it so take it before noon though if you're a rookie yeah you want to so it doesn't mess up your sleep potentially i if it affects me in kind of a weird way sometimes i can like if i if it's late at night and i have two cups of coffee that might make me sleepy like i don't know yeah maybe i mean like and sometimes i'll wake up and i'll like forget to take it and so like this morning

i think it was like 10 when i took it and you know it was probably 4 35 that i was starting to feel like okay i can't um i'm starting to crash a little bit do you correct does caffeine have a down on the other side yeah a little down but i also ate a big like my big meal of the day as i was coming down so that gave me enough enough to power through the show tonight but also i did uh because i'm getting married in like five months six months seven however long it is. Two years. Yeah, two years, three years. I got to not be a fat fuck anymore. And so I started doing, in addition to the weight training, some cardio. And I did that thing where you're like,

where I was high on my caffeine supply. And I was like, oh, last night I was rational. And I'm like, you know what? We're going to take it easy. We're going to do a couple of accessory lifts, and then we'll run on the treadmill for like uh 45 minutes an hour and like i got down there and half of it was procrastination and i like i was an hour into lifting by the time it's like just get your ass on the elliptical you fat fuck but by that point i'd already got a decent amount of work in and so i hop on there and it was the exact same time passing experience that destiny said for mushrooms happened on the elliptical where like, I'll, I would put my phone above the timer area and be running with like an episode of the Simpsons on. And I'd only be

through like a third of the episode of the Simpsons. And I'm like, that's probably been like, Oh, Oh no. Oh, it's been six minutes. Oh, that's's awful and i did like an hour and it was awful it was the hour of cardio that's good i did an hour and i'm gonna it was probably foolish i'm gonna be real real burned out and sore tomorrow uh but it was it was the longest hour in recent memory that i can think of i i would rather lift weights for three and a half hours. That amount of time would fly by compared to an hour of like, what's my heart rate? Oh, how many calories have I burned?

As if this thing has any idea how many calories I've burned. Is it a five foot two woman? Is it a six foot five man? Who knows? It's the same counter. Yeah, get a smartwatch. Yeah, I can.

I don't like wearing stuff in my hands. How essential is your smartwatch, Kyle? Do you love it? Do you love it use it all the time oh i absolutely love it yeah i wear it almost all the time i'm not wearing it now because i like just got out of the shower and then hopped in here so there's no reason to like be wearing it so it is sitting on my desk charging all the time um no i love it i've gotten like tons of apps for it. I really like that I can remote control my camera on my phone from my watch. That's kind of cool. But just all the metadata that it keeps track of, like your sleep patterns and stuff, like how much REM sleep you're getting and how much deep sleep.

I don't get very much deep sleep, apparently, like 30 minutes a night maybe. But I'll get like normal. I have no idea. I mean, what am I going to do if I find out it's not right? Sleep harder. Take less caffeine. Fuck that. I want my caffeine.

I'm not stopping my caffeine. But yeah, I really like it. At first, I was like obsessed with getting new watch faces. But now it's just like, I don't know. I've got like the super basic bitch. Just all the information you could want in digital format, like kind of thing going on. I'm actually curious what's on your watch face.

I saw time. Oh, um, nothing crazy. Uh, steps, weather report, uh, the date battery power and my current time, like, like nothing crazy there, but you know, you rotate it once over and it gives like a bunch of other like more detailed stuff i can't show because it shows exactly where i live um but it's got like humidity and um like the uv level the high and the low for the day the current like you know cloudy sunny rainy bullshit and the temperature and my location but you can program lots of locations if you like commute for work or whatever you know know, it's a smartwatch. Um, it, it does a bunch of crazy stuff as far as, um,

usually like when I'm in the shower, I just throw it on. It's, it's one of those things where you just sit it on a pedestal. So like I take it off and sit it on that when I'm in the shower and that's using enough to, yeah, like on, on a nightstand, like as I'm passing to the bathroom, like getting undressed, I like just slap it on that thing. like as i'm passing to the bathroom like getting undressed i like just slap it on that thing and that that keeps it charged enough that it never runs out just charging it when i'm in the shower and maybe 30 minutes after can i just say how it much it sucks that like as humans we acclimate to like things so quickly that if you would have described to somebody that our age that's like nine years old like in the future you're gonna have a watch

that connects to some little device in your pocket that's like 20 times more powerful than every fucking computer on the planet right now and you're gonna be able to look up locations it's gonna track you it's it's gonna give you more information than like mini maps and video games it would have been the coolest thing in the world yeah my my watch has voice command i can ask exactly yeah and nowadays like you get these devices and you're like yeah three hours of battery like fuck it you know and you're like you can't get it for granted so much these days when there's like so much cool shit and it's like fuck yeah it sucks everything yeah we're spoiled rotten with all this stuff so much what's it gonna take for it to impress us now like virtual reality like real

virtual reality like i was talking about we're that Star Trek thing? The holodeck? Exactly. Like physical, like you could feel the lion you're pretending to fight. I was playing Rust with... I don't know why you'd do that scenario. I was playing Rust with that guy from Finland a couple nights ago and it was just he and I and it was like 5 in the morning and we were just talking.

And I was like, yeah, I really struggle with the gunplay in this game. But if they ever come up with some virtual reality where I'm holding the avatar of a gun and I've got a mask on and an omnidirectional treadmill underneath me I'm gonna slay I was like that's what I need if you ever get to that level

you're not gonna be holding guns you're gonna be holding anime titties that's what's gonna not you personally but like it's gonna be all porn if we get to that level it's gonna be fucking porn that might be what is the driving force for the technology, but it'll get, it'll get, it'll get packeted over to the first person shooter genre and other stuff.

But I agree with you in the same way that porn is what made VHS beat beta max porn will be what makes whatever headset adopts it or VR system, like, uh, utilize it. That's what I like. Bring it to the top, get it the funding it needs to make FPS work

or RPGs or whatever. Any sort of game would be so incredibly cool with a setup like I just described where you'd have a bunch of avatars you could hold. Oh yeah, this is for swords. This is weighted for a sword and I can change the weighting in it so it's a light sword or a heavy sword.

Yeah, this is for a pistol. This is for a rifle. This is for a shotgun. And if it's a shotgun, you a heavy sword yeah this is for this is for a pistol this is for a rifle this is for a shotgun and you just like you know if it's a shotgun you pump it and then it pumps in the game oh that'd be so the craziest thing is the society would be unbelievably changed it would be it would be so crazy because anytime you walk into a high school the fucking shredded kids would be the gamers now because they'd be like fucking mining rocks and fucking rust or fucking world of warcraft maybe go to school like fucking shredded as fuck it's like i can't wait to fucking go home and fucking work in the gulags for six more hours

simulator you'd be doing like your gym labs for qualification and these people were like sprinting around it's like i don't think i chase with an ak right now like i do this shit all day like fucking let's go later Dude. I would love it. I would love it. That's what actually happened. And like everybody was getting fit from it. What I can actually see is like a select few people like Kyle described being like, yeah,

this is awesome. I'm like up and moving and everyone else doing that for like three days. And then them having to offer a DLC to opt back into seated gaming option. It'll be, it'll be in a wheelchair sitting on the fucking ramp. It's like, I can't do it, dude.

Gaming! Revolutionizing gaming! Now sit in a chair and just blow into a tube to direct your character. God, I would love that so much. Because I struggle so much with recoil control and rust and like, dude, if you just give me a real gun and make me hold it down, I got i got this let's go the solution is definitely not the like the ones where you're holding like a pretend gun because i was watching i was watching tucker try that for a

couple minutes the other day he was like i got this he's in his office building he bought and he's got his said headset and everything you can see him standing in the room with the two things and then you can also see the obviously the game which is him at a firing range like picking up a sniper rifle or picking up an ak and he picks up the sniper and he gets it in there and he like zooms in he's like okay well we put the scope on backwards it looks further away how do we do that then it took him like minutes trying to do that and then he just threw that gun away and went and grabbed an ak and like pulled the bolt back the whole time like you're slipping you can't grab stuff right because it sucks you're dropping it having to pick it up and then he like he knew where the safety was on there to turn it off he's like i know where it is

it's right fucking there i can see it like just pull it up you can see safety but you can't and like he couldn't get the safety off with the wand and so we just quit the entire game yeah and that's where that technology looks i've played a very similar game before, and it's incredibly frustrating. For one, like every little tremble in your hands, like the gun is just fucking shaking like a leaf in the wind. These are heavy rifles. Yeah.

Come on, man. I can hold the gun. Like I can hold the gun. I know I can. It doesn't make sense. The bow and arrow games are are always in my experience i haven't played vr in a couple years but last time i did bow and arrow felt really realistic and it it worked really well something you have the two grip points and just pulling it back like

like the as the the string is being pulled back and it makes that sort of bendy noise yeah like you're getting a little vibration in your hands and then when you release that thunk you get a little vibration there too and and the trajectory feels right like i was really good at the archery game i like that a lot that sounds something something i'm really curious about um so on this topic where you guys have topics you can always throw them out there something i'm really curious about for everyone here what is the last like tech thing where when you were introduced to it you were like wait this is actually next generation and this is fucking awesome and it like is totally like worth the hype and everything i think it might be hdtv like like way back when

we when like i got my first like big screen 1080p television and watched like a 1080p uh dvd on it and like like going from going from like standard definition to that was kind of mind-blowing it was like this is so much better that's the most recent thing and nothing since then has been of the same level i mean going like pc gaming and 1440p and high frames. I definitely like right away. I was like, oh, this is so much better. But I wasn't blown away by it like I was with like HDTV. I remember you being very impressed with VR.

Now, I know it always seems just a couple of weeks with people, but you wanted to share it like you set it up so people could see on streams the game you were playing. And now you still get a kick out of showing it to people who haven't seen it. the game you were playing and and now you still get a kick out of showing it to people who haven't seen it so yeah my favorite thing about vr was always demoing it for other people because it's that initial like moment of like your hands moving in the game like your hands are moving in real life like it fails when you try to like operate a gun or do a complex task because your fingers are so tactile and you can we can do so many things with our hands and fingers it's what kind of separates us from the lower hominids but in the game you're you're back to be a dumb guy who like does this yeah and and maybe this if you're lucky and you're just like pawing at things again like a fucking animal but that

initial moment where you're like oh look at this hands are moving punches are throwing oh pick up box i've got it throw it went like that is kind of mind-blowing at first but the novelty wears itself out really quick if it's not like authentic yeah i remember the novelty with the wii i got the wii when i was in high school i guess this is my youngest brother yeah well in high school yeah what blew me away high school. I guess my younger brother got it. What blew me away at the time was my younger brother got a Wii and I remember watching him play it and then joining in to play and being like

damn, Mario Tennis or Wii Tennis, it knows when I'm slicing versus when I'm putting overhand spin on it versus side spin. And it's very generous with the hip box i don't have to move very much this is great like i just remember at the time like thinking this is the future this is so cool and it didn't even work very well frankly but i think that was like 2005

this will age me but i remember when web browsers hit phones right so it came in stages at first like shitty phones like palm pilot type phones i think it was called the trio yep they had right the trio i may have mispronounced it i don't know um it had to use a special markup language it didn't read html it was like wml and i built websites at the time professionally so we would have to build like a second website next to it. And it was always a shitty version of the real one. And then I got an iPhone and it was like, whoa, I have like the real internet. Not the mobile copy bullshit downgraded awful version of the internet. The real internet is in my pocket.

And this is like 2000, I don't know, five-ish or something. Yeah. So the internet was pretty developed at the time. It isn't what it is now, but, like, all your shit was on there. That's how you interacted with companies already. Like, you know, e-commerce was all over. Like, the real internet was in your pocket and not, like, a fucked up copy of it. I forgot about the bullshit internet.

Yeah. So now, like, oh, my God. Like, the sum of human knowledge is in my pocket all the time. Like that was mind blowing for me. Like the internet entered my pocket. It wasn't just, I don't know, some stock tickers and email and weather, right? That's the kind of shit you had before real browsers. And it is pretty cool.

I remember having a motorola razor that had bullshit internet and sitting and taking a shit and being like now i can browse the internet on my phone while i'm shitting and like then we try and search one thing and it's like i could drive to the library before i get anything out of this bullshit internet i like to think that proctologists are like this is gonna change my game you know how many hemorrhoid surgeries i'm gonna get out of smartphones suddenly people are shitting for 40 minutes at a time these phones back in the day this was like fucking it must have been like what like 600 by 400 resolution too like you couldn't see shit on these older

like flip phone like browsers and back then the data was insanely expensive because i don't think phones back then had wi-fi i don't think they could connect to routers right it was just i didn't know what wi-fi was back then the first wait oh my god i exist when i was in high school well i'm not sure about that in 2005 did it exist in 2005 was there wi-fi yeah the first apple phones had wi-fi but they didn't um make calls over wi-fi whereas i think now they might okay the thing was like wireless ever in 2005 there were no open wi-fis to connect to that was the main issue and my router at home didn't do wi-fi so it was like Wi-Fi for me did not exist. Wi-Fi was kind of a cool thing.

Like, I don't know. I remember like I knew of Wi-Fi's existence, but it started rolling out at work. I was at Cisco. And it's like, wait a minute. In this office, there's just internet from the air. Like it's just like airborne. You make a good point with this. Because like anything that comes through the air is essentially

magical. When I really stop for a minute and start thinking about things like Wi-Fi, radio, standard deaf television signals, I'm like, they just told us it was a thing and we believed it. If this is a simulation,

in the real world, they're like, they believe that signals can travel through the fucking air. Dumb asses. They're in there thinking there's something called Wi-Fi. What are they thinking? How do they not? We just keep adding weird shit and thinking

they'll wake up. They just keep believing it. You got a big surprise for 2020, 2021 for them, though. It's like, how is how is wi-fi believable to you because like i don't know if i'm the only one here who has no fucking clue how wi-fi works on a technical level but i don't it's like religion wi-fi is about faith like like like the next thing is like wireless um electricity right like like completely wireless and i know that they've been able to do that with like really close

distances. But like the idea that Nikola Tesla had was like this wireless internet interface where like you just push a button and you're getting electricity from across the city or across the state or something like that. Have you guys seen Shazam? The movie? The Shaquille O'Neal movie?

The Shaquille O'Neal movie? One of the greatest movies of my childhood. No, it's a more recent one. It's from like two years ago. It's where the boy becomes a man. Oh, the DC movie. Yeah. I watched it recently. Anyway, it's fun.

It's not great though. There's a scene in it where he's like discovering his superpowers and he can zap lightning bolts. And he's like, your phone's charged. Your phone's charged. Your phones are charged. That's what we need. I would like it if that happened. your phone's charged your phone's charged your phones are charged that's what we need that's the like that's i would like it if that happened while my phone has um wireless charging now

yeah super disappointing one it stops working all the time and it's not really obvious that it's not working um and like you said that like oh look it's wireless charging there's a magnet a magnet that's like practically wired there's a wire attached to the magnet that's attached to the phone it's just a different kind of plug it's just you can pick it up a little faster a little and you don't have to like do that oh i got it backwards let me flip it around thing like i do like it like like i hope i can get this i'm just gonna fucking unplug as a gamer this is why is it just like sit something on this little thing and just go wireless mice are a game changer um if you haven't gotten a wireless mouse yet

like this is you're done ever if you hold one of these you will never use a wired mouse again um and do you have um it's called the the wireless pro they don't make these some wireless which is the number on it it can't be called wireless. I think it's just called the wireless pro. There was an older version before. I don't remember what it was. This is like the last one. Then they made a new one. But like the coolest thing about this is there's like a mouse pad you can get and the mouse

pad charges the mouse. So I've never plugged this into my life. I just leave it on the mouse pad and while you're using it, it charges it. And it's super, super smart too. Like if you have used the app, you can see how charged your house is and it never overcharges it or anything. It's always at like 87% charged. Yeah, to make sure you're not...

Always. For like a year now, it's been 87% charged. You don't even think about it. I would have assumed that meant it was broken. Not that it wasn't charging correctly. I didn't pay for a B-plus charge. If that... Something...

This light is an indicator or something that it's charging or something. It is on. Yeah. You can tell it's on. My entire desktop is a mouse pad. this light is an indicator or something that it's charging or something. Yeah. I, uh, my, my,

my entire desktop is a mouse pad. So that's a real reason for me not to like go to that. Plus like I've been using the same mouse since I like started PC gaming and I don't want to like learn something new. I use the stupid mad cat's mouse that weighs two pounds or something like that. Like it's literally like, I don't know if you can see the weights that are like,

like this silver part down there at the bottom or weights. Like it's so coming out of the bottom, bottom. It has a tail. It has a tail. Yeah. Yeah. So this is allows me to change the weights.

Uh, plug in different weights to the mouse. Yeah. I unscrew this and this is a, it's like, it's just like a barbell. These are stacks of weights. So I can remove or add to the stack and it it's at its heaviest right now and like there's no way to show

weight on camera it's fucking heavy it's really fucking heavy like like literally half a pound at least the other way now now they compete on being super light they're like this is all solid plastic they honeycomb them now so that that there's less weight to it. They try to make it incredibly super light. Yeah, I need the opposite because that's what I've always had. I think it's the same as any other mouse. How much lighter could you make a mouse? Incredibly light.

You start changing the materials and start 3D printing so you can honeycomb super well. Almost weightless. Do you want that though? Your hands are going to be getting little skin flakes in your mouse. Your hands are going to get sweaty when you're intensely gaming. I sometimes just... You don't wear your gloves? They make these really small improvements.

Fingerless gloves. When they go 240 frames per second, this monitor does 280. I'm like ah i'm not that level of gamer that's how i feel about super light mice too like it's not gonna if i if i see in higher than 60 70 i'd be blown away if you just do like i know you've got bad eyesight but you got to step on up to like 100 hertz it will it that will that is also one of the other things i don't know if you've ever seen a gif of the comparison between do you remember when like

you guys i don't know if you watch streams or youtube videos when things started to change from 30 frames per second to 60 i couldn't watch 30 fps anymore i was like what the fuck am i even looking at it looks like like i can count the fucking frames out loud powerpoint presentation just going from 60 to 120 is the exact same feeling if you're on a monitor like looking at my because i've got a 4k monitor here and then my 144 is here looking at my mouse movement this one it looks like it's like 15 or 30 frames a second it looks so slow but it's 60 but when you come over here to the 90 it's very very very smooth that upgrade will be something that you can't go back from so don't demo that on a monitor unless you get the money to buy it because once you see it

you'll be like oh shit what the fuck have i been doing this whole time it's a really big upgrade yeah i play everything in 1440 144 hertz and i really like it i don't get 144 hertz and everything like rust i'm at like 100 frames as long as you're 90 plus it's gonna look significantly different yeah i get a 90 plus on everything like even tarkov i was getting like around 100 110 and in rust i get about 100 but i turn the settings up kind of nice so the game doesn't look like Play-Doh Have you been playing Rust, Destiny? Are you on the Rust

train with what seems like every other streamer? Yeah, there's like a big like cloud server that everybody's on now and of course I'm jumping on Well, I really like Rust. I've got like a thousand hours in it so when I saw an opportunity to join it, yeah So I'm on that server now. Yeah I'm getting closer to 2,000 hours hours now i've been grinding so hard for the last couple weeks it had nothing to do with like the the twitch rust craze or whatever like we started like getting into a rust again

like a week before that happened and i was like oh look that's i'm a trendsetter but in reality it's just like yeah it's a great fucking game and people are like waking up to that and some streamers are playing it and seeing that it's actually a, I don't know how they stream it. Actually, I do. It's because they're playing on that PVE server and they're all pretending to play Rust. That's how they stream.

What do you mean pretending to play Rust? They have kicked out Pastilli and a few other people for actually playing Rust and shooting people. Wait, like trying to take over bases? That's the whole point? No, shooting people. No. Yeah, the whole point is, you know, the point is up to you.

The point is up to the player, for one thing. Like there's a guy that's playing not with me, but in the same server as me, and I know him, and he's a weed farmer. He does nothing but grow hemp. He has a multi-tiered weed farm where he grows tens of thousands of cloth a day

which is a useful resource but to me he's not pretty playing the game. He's a make-believe weed farmer? He grows hemp. Hemp is a thing in the game. You can do agriculture indoors. It requires a lot of wiring and plumbing that you have to do in a game. Oh my god, dude. This sounds awful.

He loves it. There's Minecraft parallels here and I know people get tired of that. I know guys who would think that is the most amazing thing. Does he just have building stacks and stacks of very tall... Multi-tiers. There's timed lightings where the

lights come on the the lighting is perfect he had to he had to selectively uh pick the genome for the plants and clone and clone them that's really cool he found hemp plants that had ideal genetics and cloned those hundreds and hundreds of times and he repeatedly plants that clone of hip because it grows more quickly and produces more cloth and the water consumption is better. You're right that he's pretending to play because this is just a dry run for his own weed farm in his house. Perhaps.

But then there's people like me who really like the grinding aspect and running the monuments. And then once you're established doing lots of PVP, and then there's people who think that's lame and all they want to do is fight continuously and if you're ever hitting a fucking tree you know you fucked up and you're a pussy now like there's lots of different ways to

play the game. And that's how Pastille wants to play and they booted him? Pastille wants to like PvP and they kicked him and two or three other people for actually PvPing in the server. They're all in my opinion, they're Pv the server they're all in my opinion they're pve they're like doing some sort of communal pve like let's just hang out and pretend to play rust kind of thing in my opinion this is what you think pastilli is doing pastilli

wanted to actually play some rust and shoot some people in the rust server and they kicked him out oh and you would argue that that on this server it's the unwritten rule is that it's pve it's not even an unwritten rule they're not allowed to land for big pvp yeah so basically the thing about rust is that when you play rust on big servers the the the thing is is that rust is the type of game where um happiness is a zero sum game okay the only way you create happiness on a rust server is by taking it from other people okay that's where all of the fun comes in. It's from raiding people's spaces.

It's from stealing all of their shit. And then it's making fun of them in chat when you watch their naked bodies run back to the base to see if you left anything behind while you're still camping outside with a rifle ready to kill them when they run out with the two guns they had left. That's all of what Rust is.

It's antagonizing people until they type in racial slurs and get banned from the server. This is literally the core big server experience with Rust. This guy gets it! The core gameplay experience with Rust. And then what happened was a lot of... Now, Rust

is a game of a lot of possibilities. Like he said, you can have hemp farmers, you can do cool little RP things. I think on this server there are people who do taxi services. They fly each other on a map and stuff. Basically, a bunch of streamers just wanted to set up a server where they could do a bunch of funny, cute, clever, creative things or whatever for YouTube stuff or whatever. So it doesn't really work that well

when you have people that are hardcore PvPers. I understand that a lot of the Rust community is ultra-ass-mad, so I used to play on Rustified a little bit and then Rustopia were the two servers I played a ton on. And I know that there is a very hardcore contingent people of PvPers out there. And when I say hardcore, what mean is like these guys have never mined a tree in their life they log in they've got like seven dudes that have already mined up all their form they go to the base they get the guns and they go and they start writing people that's all they do um a lot

of people want to do like the heavy heavy pvp stuff but it doesn't really work well when other people on the server just want to like kind of goof off and have fun and that's where like a lot of people are getting irritated we're like oh we want to see like crazy pvp shit and then the streamers are like oh we're kind of care bears we just want to like role play with each other and build stuff so that's like yeah and the best part about it let me just throw this in there the best part about it is that maybe the worst part it depends

on your viewpoint all of these kids and I do mean kids are watching these videos and they're like oh rust looks like so much fun I'm going to go play rust and so they jump into like my server and my server is not a fucking role play server my server is a quad server of pvpers like i mentioned that one guy with a hemp farm he's just one of a guy who likes me who wanted to jump in there and just be silly and like do his own thing because he knew it'd be

fun everybody else is fucking killing each other we're riding around like like killing all the fucking time it's all it's all anybody's doing so like these kids jump in and they're in the chat like how do people even get enough resources to write i don't understand like like what are you guys doing how do i make a house like the the youtubers aren't teaching anybody how to like or the twitch guys aren't teaching people how to play the game they're teaching them how to like do some sort of make-believe version in a safe zone it's it's it's fun for us because these people are clueless and they're running around in our world is there a way kyle for you and your your band of heavy hitters to get into that pve server and start running amok no they ban you it's it ban you. It's invite only in the safe zone.

In my safe place. I mean, you're the one you just said earlier that you're taking credit for Rust booming right now. I heard you. We all heard it. And I quote, I, Kyle Myers, am responsible for Rust's

popularity. Don't you misquote me. January 14th, 11 minutes. Put that evil on me. Timestamped. Is Pistilli very good at PvP? He's very good in Tarkov, so I thought maybe he could be good in Rust.

So the thing is, there's such a huge learning curve. So you could be pretty good with a custom SMG if you've just played any other game because the recoil pattern is this long lazy s but like if you try to fight a guy who's good with an ak he's just gonna like triple headshot you and you just it feels like he just flipped a switch and you instantly died um like so yeah he's okay at like mid-level pvp i'm sure because if he can just shoot a if he knows to crouch when he's okay at mid-level PvP, I'm sure. Because if he knows to crouch when he shoots a semi-automatic rifle, and he knows to do a little lazy S with the custom SMG,

but the top-tier weapons are very, very hard to use. And they're top-tier for a reason. They just turn people off like a light switch when you're good with them. My friend, like Timu, just beat the world record. He has the best spray on UKN. He just just beat the world record he not he is now the uh has the best spray on uk in uh he just set a new world record and he's not the best player on the team yeah so but still he's good but he's not as good as the specialists no not even close like like it's it's the people you got to use an ak to be to be like top tier you just do yeah you showed us that

who was it was it timu who um killed the four-man team on the monument yeah yeah that was timo's point of view yeah it was fun because like the one guy's like oh my god i think there's four of them and he's like yes i killed them no no no you know you're not hearing there's four i killed four you're not hearing there's four i killed four yeah okay yeah all right yeah yeah that and and paris wanted me to make it known that he is better than timu at pvp like like after i said that on the show he's like this is bullshit this is bullshit you've just told hundreds of thousands of people that timu is better than me we have to have another 1v1 you know what kyle i'll be honest with you i've been holding back so that you and midi could have a little bit more fun but from now on i'm just going balls to the wall i feel like i've misrepresented myself here i've got i've got to show you what i can do and sure enough like they go and have a 1v1 and paris wins

the 1v1 and then like all night paris is just slaying the fuck out of everybody. Is Timu just like, once again, I don't understand why you want to... He's on the podcast or something? What's the... Yeah, pretty much. Timu has no idea. I just want to put a rest to my friends. Timu is...

He set a new world record, like I said, on UKN, which is a very big deal. It's the server that, like, everybody who wants to be good at shooting in Tarkov goes to. it's the best one to like dial in their, their recoil pattern. And, uh, I don't, I don't remember what his, what his percentage was, 88% or something like that. Um, it, which means nothing to you, but it's incredible. It's pretty nuts.

This is, it's fun to me that you're having fun with every so often in call of duty, I would grab a couple of guys from the optic professional team and we'd pub stomp, you know, so me and the boys would never get beat. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you,

yeah, we were quite the team. Yeah. It's, we were quite the team. Did you like my help of using my three times frag at the beginning? Did you like my help of using my three times frag at the beginning of every spawn? No kills.

Yeah, I'm glad Rust is doing well. Because I saw the devs made like $2 million last week or something like that. So that's just going to help fuel more updates for this calendar year and get more stuff out more quickly. I hope they're not just like going to my bank account. I hope they're putting a little bit of it back into the dev team and speeding up some of the things that people want and that have been promised. It's like Tarkov and Rust almost compete for the same player base. Is that right?

Like one goes down, the other goes up? It's somewhat similar. They have some similarities in the, you know, when you die and you lose your gun and the other guy takes your gun. That's kind of where the similarities are. But in Tarkov, you know, you've got your stash, which is where all your shit is stored.

And I can't come get into your stash and take it. Whereas Rust is on the system where you can break into someone's base and take all that they own and rust is often on a weekly cycle where like at the end of the week everything that we accrue is just gone and we start over again whereas tarkov is on like a nine month cycle roughly speaking six nine months where you can you know after six or nine months you're so goddamn rich that maybe you don't even care anymore you've kind of lost interest in the game which i think is uh kind of yeah i got i had so much money that like losing didn't hurt anymore and winning wasn't a big deal anymore

unless the guy had just the most meta of gear like i was saying there's lots of ways to play rust i enjoy all the stages of tarkov i like it when it first drops and everybody's broke i like the mid game i like the end game too when like you said you can die and it's no trouble um and and i can just i can i can cosplay as a poor person i can roll in as super chad i can play any way i want to i like every stage something that i really miss. Have you guys ever heard of a MUD before? Multi-user dungeon or multi-user dimension text-based games in the days of old?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I used to play a lot of these growing up. But something that was just part of the culture of a MUD that was really cool was that anytime there was like a major update, I mean, it would change the way you would level your character. So necessarily there'd be a P-wipe, a player wipe. And that was always the most hype moments of the game is when you wipe the player base because everybody's on everybody wants to be you can see the leaderboards changing in real time people are no wiping for 48 hours right after wipes you see you can hit the the first person to get some weapon or some transformation or some armor or some level whatever um and it was really exciting i wish that other games did more stuff like that like in the in the rpg world um i noticed that um in the mmrb world

like i noticed ruinscape does like the iron man stuff which seems pretty exciting um in rust like the most the biggest excitement is the the wipe cycles um like you'll play on servers that'll either wipe every 7 or 14 days the day one is like depending on your server you're sitting there for an hour waiting in queue because so many people want to get in and play and then by like six or seven like it's just not as much fun i guess for some people i shouldn't speak for everybody but for somebody like me like it's not really that much fun if i can kill somebody and then re-gear up and then run back and kill them and or die and then re-gear up and we're back down like it's more fun when it's like we just spent like 12 hours fucking mining and we heard like an explosion in the

back of the base and if these guys like break in we're gonna lose everything we just did on day one and we're fucked for the whole cycle like the stakes are so fucking high on everything and if you're allowed to build these massive stashes i think you lose like the funnest aspects of games sometimes like when i watch eft and i'm seeing somebody like in some tense situation where they hear footsteps or they're in a gunfight their legs injured i'm like oh my god this is like crazy excitement like if he dies like the stakes are high and then they die and then they go back to their stash and they've got like 750 trillion more like surplus world war ii weapons stashed away in some box who the fuck cares if they die or not like yeah i know that's just kind of my no i agree in that viewpoint i disagree i

like all stages oh you're just wrong woody yeah there's only one fun phase i like it when it's high stakes i like it when it's low stakes sometimes it's nice to die shrug it off go back regroup regroup reequip it's i like games with no stakes i've been playing a bunch of magic the gathering arena and sometimes like two turns in i'll be like you know what this hand is no longer exactly what i want it to be just concede just just give up start again try it again no reason to worry what about the person you're playing with doesn't he have a horrible time

because you just left they got a free victory out of it so they get their little coins and you use those to like redeem cards I'm exaggerating I don't do that very often because it's more you don't really figure out if your deck's good or not if you quit all the time like you need to make sure like all right if i'm getting shit draws a third of the time that's probably because i have the wrong mana split i have too many

creatures not enough instance enchantments sorceries that kind of thing i was going to suggest the sorcery jamming that's yes a well-known magic tactic ah this fucker's sorcery jammies a whole deck of nothing but sorceries you 60 useless cards no land the whole uh low stakes high stakes thing that's that's what drove me away from call of duty and pulled me into a game like pub g and then and then from there to like tarkov and and Rust, you know, it was like, ah, here's a game where winning and losing matters a little bit. Like, I think what made Call of Duty matter for a little bit longer than it should have was like trying to make YouTube content for it. It's like, oh, yeah, a good game is worth cash. And a bad game means wasted time.

So that added something to it. So I don't even know why people who aren't getting paid to fucking play call of duty play call of duty anymore i don't get you people like blame truth goes off on all the time and he was talking about i saw some tweets from him saying like hey here's a couple statements from treyarch or whoever and it was like clearly them panicking trying to do stuff to re-incentivize people to play more because apparently the servers are like outside of zombies pretty empty pretty dead yeah i i think that it depends like everybody plays something that's really important to recognize i don't want to gatekeep any gaming experience we all play games for different reasons um but when i when i think back to like my favorite gaming moments um usually

it's in games where the stakes were very very very high um so like i'm never ever ever remembering maybe some people do but i'm never remembering like a like a call of duty game or i i should say like csgo because i have a second call to do i never remember like a csgo game where it's like oh i had dropped a 30 bomb a 40 bomb like that was such a good ladder match that i played randomly the one time but i have memories from rust that will like last me a lifetime like um they're like it so like it's a very quick very small thing uh kyle might be the only one in here that gives a fuck about any of this, but, um, you raid people's bases, you bring a lot of stuff with your crew. And if you've got a big crew, you've got, you know, dozens of

high quality weapons, lots of rockets that take hours or days to mine the sulfur for. And like, in the middle of like raiding this base, um, there's like people log in to defend the base and everything. Um, like your raid can get fucked. fucked and and what a fucked raid looks like is you'll have a bunch of people in a tower that are standing there shooting down on ak's with a bunch of people with dicks running around like running around trying to run back into the building because everybody's fucking dead and so when you die you have like sleeping bags you respond from and you're trying to run in and grab a weapon and just grab anything and it's like impossible like usually at this stage like a raid is fucked and we were we were at this that stage in one of our raids of these people where we'd all died it was over people were trying to

run back in naked so they're just getting killed and one guy manages to like grab a shotgun off of somebody's body i say a shotgun it's a shitty version it's a single shot shotgun called a water pipe oh yeah and in in this in this raid one of the defenders comes down and this guy manages to headshot the dude and when he kills the guy his body drops and we get like a body full of rockets and a rocket launcher and like from this moment of this totally lost raid we like claw our way back into like slowly blowing up platforms making awareness and the whole time if you could get a macro view of this it's just naked bodies just running at this fucking tower and it's like it's just one of those things where

like like this raid is like the result of like three days worth of like 20 people collecting resources forever and if you fuck it up you're you're gonna sit on your ass for five days with nothing to do because you've wasted everything else and that kind of stuff is really exciting really fun it makes for good stories um more so than just like i totally wrecked a bunch of people yesterday and you know this multiplayer yeah everyone cheers in a moment like that it's like dude i got all the rockets i got all the rockets come in here rockets an inventory of rockets and everybody's like yes get them back come here come here come here come where i'm right here what the fuck is there what do you mean you need to use words yeah and people like screaming on comms and it's like it's stanley yeah that shit is crazy

that's funny as fuck dude oh man on a related like similar to that but my favorite gaming moments are usually about relationships right like i don't know i play with some guy with a lisp and the other guy's targeting him he's talking shit and it's like all right everybody put on your gaming socks we're gonna teach him a lesson and if that goes well you know like like what we played with a girl one time and they they targeted her they went after her they said you don't understand i play this game every fucking day i'm gonna kick your ass and i'm like he doesn't understand i play this game every day we all play this game every day yeah and then i'm tearing up like those are the moments where it's like

you know come at me, bitch. You think you got pushovers on this team? Don't leave. See, I'm so mean. When you said when you were talking about targeting a kid with a lisp, I thought that you and your friends were targeting a kid with a lisp. I had no idea that you were the one to step in and defend because that's more

my group. Dude, you've got to hear MIDI soundboard of the kid we ran into with the lisp years ago. And when they got him to like say different stuff and recorded him and he drops that as a soundboard occasionally. And it weird because we were learning rust, like learning how to really play rust for the first time, maybe like two and a half years ago. Like we kind of piddled around, but we got a tour guide to like show us how to run monuments and how to how to shoot a bit and it was weird like we kept running into kids with speech impediments and i don't mean one or two like every kid we ran into seemed to have an issue like a severe lisp or a stutter and we were like is this like the game for for kids with

disabilities like is that what's going on here and so we all started role playing as kids from a special needs hospital and so like i'm farming hospital yes you're retarded and you have cancer a school for the criminally retarded and so so like i'm over there mining a tree and every time i hit it i'm going wood wood wood in voice chat and this guy like lives nearby he's like dude what's going on out here and middy's like i'm sorry i run a school for the criminally retarded and these kids over here i thought that maybe a land center we got the funding for a land center and i thought that this would be a good game to teach them teamwork and he's like well that's really god that's really sweet man but you gotta tone get them to tone it down or at least

not talking voice chat they're driving us crazy i work with special needs kids but don't worry we got funding for a land setup sorry you didn't get dialysis this week, but everybody's fucking loving it. And I'm just like, while he's complaining, I'm just still going, wood, wood, wood, just hammering away. I don't know. It's a mean fucking game, though.

It's great. That sounds like a lot of what you like about it. Knowing that there are fierce, mean foes who want nothing more than to kill you, that makes the victory sweeter. Yeah, they're mean to me. Don't think that it's all about me being mean to other people. I like it because they're mean to me. And it's motivating.

There are people in this server that I hate so fucking much. They have no idea who I am. I have no idea who they are. But I despise them. I despise them. And I'm going to get them. I thought that they hid usernames or something i know that was yeah but how the fuck do you know how like titty fucker 69 is like that's just a fucking username right like i don't know who this guy is

like you know if like you're like oh there's fucking buffalo bill can you say your username i'm curious what it is you don't want to say it yeah i don't know i change it like every white it's always something different okay yeah jesus how fucking crazy would it be if you ran like the gaming division in one of these children's hospitals or whatever you had like the login info to all of these kids and anytime a kid died you just like got on their account empty their fucking bank account like nobody would ever they get mad at you right like it's not like they need what's come back like running like one of those like fucking like yeah kids we're all gonna play like go out and mine today it's like isn't this boring nah go mine the fucking uh mithril or whatever okay trust me and then like three months later the kid's gone and it's like well

time to log in and empty this shit out i'm sorry you had to spend your last moments mining sulfur for me. To inflate and shoot rockets with. It's like, oh, you know, as an aggregate, the five of them put together all of their make-a-wishes, and they're going to compete against Optic in the championship. And they just get fucked. Like, Optic, no prisoners. Hex, high-fiving the team as they trounce these kids.

All these bald kids next to oxygen tanks. Oh, man. Yeah, that would be bad for Optic. That's not good PR for them. Not good Optics. Yeah, not good Optics, exactly. They should let them win. This fictitious setup I did.

No, that doesn't teach them anything. How much time do they have right they need they need they need life lessons for the next week or two here let me teach you how to balance a checkbook maybe not that i'm gonna teach you how to drive a car into your own colostomy bag maybe something useful oh that's too far no i was meaning because that's always something it's gross frankly oh yeah it is gross to have to have a bag of shit how often do those leak i imagine that's a problem if if if the answer is one percent it's it's pretty pretty awful right what would you kyle you often talk about how how vain you are you have to lose your left hand.

You can't kill yourself. You have to lose your left hand. No, you would take your left hand. You have to lose a left hand and an eye or have a colostomy bag. I'd kill myself. No, I said this on an option. I can kill myself.

You can't make a rule that's imaginary. Okay, I absolutely can. I a rule that's imaginary. Okay, in this... I absolutely can. I'm setting up an imaginary scenario. In this scenario, you're tied to the radiator in my basement and I'm not going to let you go. Oh, and you're making me choose.

No. What is it called when you can't die? Not invulnerable, not immutable. Immortal. Immortal. Immortal is actually what it's like. Immortal. You're immortal, Kyle.

Death won't work. You're immortal until I so choose. The bag is actually great if you think about it. I take the bag. I take the bag, but I refuse to plug it in. I'm just leaking shit all over Taylor's basement

all the time until he kills me. I just come down there with a knife and I'm like touche you beat me yeah I'm not plugging the bag in I'm just going to dribble everywhere and I'm going to eat poorly my father-in-law I think had one at the very end he had cancer

and it was incredibly disheartening for him. Like it. Yeah, I can imagine. So that'd be, that would, that would be really difficult.

Oh, remember in the wire when the one homeless crackhead guy who was friends with bubbles, like the white dude had the colostomy bag from the beating he took and they were pulling some sort of a scam with like a copper pipe transporting plumber or something like that and the bag popped and there's just shit everywhere

oh oh and it doesn't look like formed shit it's just like baby food well I'm sure that the asshole has something to do with the forming of the shit and if you take it out before that like play-doh device where you like make stars and stuff I'm so glad you brought that up because that's where I'm sure that the asshole has something to do with the forming of the shit. And if you take it out before that, like, Play-Doh device where you, like, make stars and stuff. I'm so glad you brought that up because that's where I'm headed with this.

If you could change your asshole into any of the Play-Doh playhouse forms, what would you want your poops to look like? I'd say hearts. The spaghetti one. That's the coolest one. The spaghetti one. I didn't even consider that. I was going to say the star, but that has edges. And so it wouldn't come out well. Oh, in this make-believe land where I'm not allowed to kill myself anymore, your asshole stars are perfectly formed.

I feel like everybody would go with star, so I'm going to go crescent moon. Be a little unique. Anyone who goes with star just didn't think of the spaghetti one. I like spaghetti as well. I feel like it's going to flush so well. You're never going to have a plumbing problem again. Just painting the bowl. Every single

time you shoot. It's just going to be a bowl of spaghetti at the bottom in the water. Maybe floating on the water. Depends on the day. And you've got like a instead of toilet paper paper you just got a butter knife by the toy that you like scrape you scrape the end off like you're like and then you'll just flick it if you want to you can do it a couple times while you're pooping oh yeah that's how i play lego or uh play-doh yeah play-d. Oh, well, that's gross. Oh, is it?

I would rather... You made me live with a colostomy bag in your basement tied to a radiator. I get to shit however I want. It was funny. Destiny. God, sensitive little bitch. You must have a hot take on the whole taking over of the Capitol insurrection fun stuff. Whoa. What whoa? That was a big topic change. Wait, are we done with the shit? the capital insurrection fun stuff. Whoa. What? Whoa.

That was a big topic change. Are we done with the shit? You hit me with that one really hard. Woody's done with poop. All right, let's get political. Do you want to go back to poop? I always want to go back to poop. If you promise we can come back, we can do that. How unhealthy do you think Trump's poops are? Here, I'll split the difference.

I need to be really mindful, too, because we have about an hour and 55 minutes left. Aren't we supposed to have a hockey segment? That'll be the last two hours. This is good. The season started yesterday, which means that is where my mind is. We were 4-1 last night over the Colorado Avalanche, and I did.

I saw that. I was keeping track of the Flyers also. They're going to be my second team again this year. If you promise to watch them with me, I'm all in. that i was keeping track of the yes also they're gonna be my second team again this year if you promise to watch them with me i'm all right can we make a hockey bet right now sydney crosby since we're on hockey talk avalanche are my team this year i have chosen them as colorado will be my new homeland soon enough um so avalanche are uh my team and they actually will be my team so do you want to do a sort of like stanley cup bet maybe or a playoff bet or

anything like that how many heads do they have like a standing five dollar every time somebody wins might be fun gee that can get a little rough uh maybe we just do like uh who wins more than like uh they they won't be playing they're only playing in division because of covid and so like until the playoffs like the blues won't play ph Philadelphia, but St. Louis and Colorado are both in the same division. So they'll play like eight times. And the Blues have already won the first matchup. I say we stop the count. They're clearly the better team.

Well, I'm not letting your grandfather that win into any bets. So, you know, get them while they're hot. We'll do it. We'll do it. How about five bucks for every Blues-Colorado game this season? The first one is tomorrow night or the second one's tomorrow night excellent all right yeah why was that way too expensive when it was my idea it's excellent when it's because he told me there's only eight matchups because i know they're in the same

division and to me it's like baseball where they're gonna play like 30 fucking times i'm like i don't know what if they swamp us and i owe taylor 200 i don't want to do that i mean i'm just i would like to get the flyers involved i'm just it would have to be a playoff bet and i believe that would i think all three of our teams are going to make the playoffs double it and make it ten dollars but they'd have to meet at the cup level so it's not going to happen probably yeah probably not okay yeah we did our death pool we got it we got a few floating bets for the year already established i like that we're getting them done early in january we've got our death pools down now we got our hockey bet down my guy's going back to russia i i like my picks i'm pretty happy with him yeah so good we so we did a death pool

destiny and we wanted to do a hard one so it was under 50 no active diseases and woody picked the guy that is putin's primary opposition and like they just recalled him back to Russia. And I was like, I'm going to be so fucking pissed if like nine days after we do that, that guy gets killed. They already tried to murder him once. He survived. He was the guy that was on video, like catching the dude trying to kill him or whatever.

Was that the... Yeah, I actually didn't realize he was that guy. I just knew him as Trump's primary opposition. And then I guess the story is he got the hitman to admit how he tried to kill him. And I'm like, well, they're the same people. I get such a good pick.

I half lucked into it. Is it really that lucky to pick Putin's political opponents? I don't know if I'd call that lucky, but... It's smart. Mysteriously, a lot of those people seem to die of a radiation look when you pick people under 50 you have to grab i got that free climber at alex hanaud i got kanye with the bipolar thing going through the um uh the divorce right now

yeah um i think i'm gonna live or die by lil wayne in my list i picked a lot of fat celebrities yeah kyle picked a lot of guys who were literally 50. I had to pick an extra one because one of them was actively sick. I didn't know that. And I just looked up fattest celebrities under 50. And the guy who plays Hurley in that show we were talking about,

he's on my list. Jorge, you know, McFatass. Whatever. He doesn't look good. He actually has gained weight since the role what really he's even fatter than the fattest version of himself i i might be wrong i had this idea that if it's a 50 and under they're not likely to die of natural causes like even fat people live to 50 mostly like it might take five or eight ten years for a fat person to die but if you're real real

fat like ralphie may that comedian he was like the size of that guy from lost like so fat that like body type like even like doing like a who's that pokemon with them you wouldn't be able to discern a human body like ice cream in a warm room how did patrice o'neill die well he had diabetes and then i think because he had diabetes that made him more prone to strokes and he had a stroke and i think it was the stroke that killed how old he like what would you call him he was 43 maybe i'm wrong then maybe i should take that back like i guess you're unhealthy enough post 40 it can be any. He also was one of those guys, though, where he'd be like, yeah, I got type 2 diabetes. And he'd be like, Jim Norton or Anthony Cooney is like, yeah, you're on your third bear claw, though.

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we dovetail all these intentional. That's how it goes. You think it's just a random hodgepodge of who wants to pay us this week. No, no. It's carefully structured. We have to turn people down all the time. We go, well, that doesn't really mesh with what we're trying to do this week. So, Destiny, was it a coup attempt?

Was it just a riot? Was it Trump's doing? Was it contrary to what Trump really wanted? What was your take on that? So I think that it's really silly to get fixated on the words that we use because people will get like hyped up on falling into what these words mean. And then the whole conversation devolves into that. So, like, for instance, if we were to say, like, well, this was a coup, somebody might say, like, well, it's a coup because they tried to stop like a democratic process of an elected leader and they wanted to install their own leader. But then somebody else might kind of, well, was it really a coup? They didn't seem very organized. They didn't have top-down direction. They didn't have widespread enough support from the leader directly. So I think that getting into like, was it a coup and blah, blah, blah,

I think is like dumb because then people just argue all day long about like what the definitions are and what you need for something to be considered like a terrorist action or a coup, you all day long about like what the definitions are and what you need for something to be considered like a terrorist action or a coup, blah, blah, blah. But I think that like, I think that if we were to speak like broadly, I think it looks like a coup to me. Yeah. There wasn't like direction from Trump, but you clearly have a lot of people that are so far removed from reality that they can't comprehend that maybe their candidate lost. And their goal is to subvert the democratic process by any means possible. First, it was misinformation from Trump. Then it was misinformation in the media.

Then it was misinformation in the alternative media. Then it was misinformation from Giuliani. Then it was misinformation in the lawsuits. And then it was misinformation of the Supreme Court. And then it was misinformation about how Pence could overturn the election. Then it was misinformation about how senators could object at every single stage. And all the processes, as stupid as they were and as much of a fucking waste of time, every single process was followed from start to finish. They had their time in the media.

They had their time on social media. They had their time in the courts. They had their time in front of the Supreme Court. They had their time in the Senate. Trump called Pence a pussy. And at the end of the day, they've lost it every stage of the way. And then it seems like at the end, it's like, well, fuck it. If reality isn't going to bend to what we want it to, then we're just going to break into the Capitol and force you guys to we want, which kind of feels like a little bit of a coup to me. But is that confirmed that he called Pence a pussy?

I mean, it's reported and it seems to fall in line with everything else Trump has said. But I hope he did. I feel like you let Trump off the hook pretty easily and like they didn't have support from the top. Like Michael Cohen testified, he said Trump speaks in code, which makes it sound really complicated. But this code isn't hard to decode. He says things like, you know what, Taylor, it sure would be nice if when you look to General Flynn, you found him not guilty of anything and just stopped it here. Right. Yeah.

And I'm not telling you to do that. I'm not pressuring you. I'm just saying it would be nice if it happened. Sure, that would really lighten my day up. That would make me smile. And you get the message. That's not a hard-to-decode code. When he says, look, you guys are going to lose your country

if you don't march right down there to the Capitol and fight, people are like, he didn't say to break windows, right? Yeah, I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying that it's not like Trump was communicating with a few guys on the ground being like, if you get into the Capitol, I'll get the military there to help you. And that's what I mean when it wasn't like official guidance. Trump absolutely has the messaging though. Those people were there because of his irresponsible messaging year after year after year after year, 1 million percent. I'd never disagree with that, 100 hundred percent. I think, so I caught some Fox News the other night, which I don't often do, but they did a montage of things that Democrats have said leading up to and during the riots of last

summer. And a lot of it was way more inflammatory than what Trump has, anything Trump's ever said, like the stuff that Maxine Waters said about taking Trump out and, uh, what people were saying about blowing up the white house. And, uh, you know, if, if you see anyone who's a member of this cabinet, get in their face and push up on them and, you know, don't give them a job. And if you see him at the gas station, get after them. And I want to, I want to go to go to uh when they were locking children up

in cages at the border yeah following the obama uh tactics that's not true no obama didn't make those cages that's himself obama obama didn't fill those cages yeah that's right it's like they had this thing so we were using obama's cages, just so we're all clear. I mean, there is a distinction to be drawn there. We had some immigration policy. But listen, at the end of the day, you can't feel bad for him. When you're on record saying shithole countries, Mexicans are rapists, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then you start stuffing kids in cages, it's going to look a certain way. I mean, you really have no one to blame but yourself.

The Obama cages, yes. The empty Obama cages that were filled with the Trump separated at the border families. I'm glad you pointed out that they were empty. Obama not following through with anything, really. All that wasted money on cages. All that wasted money on cages. Another liberal spending bill. An empty

cage. It's a perfect analogy for the democratic process. Thank you. Thank you. Cages built, but not filled trump comes in businessman doing business fills those cages to the brim kids are leaking out the top that gets shit done so many kids that were having to sell a few to child predators people will draw these comparisons i mean people draw these comparisons between like people saying like we need to take trump out blah blah blah blah blah um i mean like you can play the whataboutism all day, but to try to deny that like Trump has had a clear top down message of undermining the integrity of

our system from day one. And to try to compare that with some vague things that Democrats have said about like, we need to take Trump out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When Trump is literally on stage saying like, well, maybe the people, maybe the second amendment guys can do something about Hillary. Like, I think that those equivocations are hilariously not true it's not even close to the same level like we don't have like democrats mailing uh fucking what was that one guy that was mailing pipe bombs to fucking uh like soros and democratic politicians and shit what do you know the cnn and stuff like that yeah like the the the messaging and the undermining the democracy to be clear i'm not against like all forms of protest but like when you're the president and and the undermining of the democracy. To be clear, I'm not against like all forms of protest.

But like when you're the president and you are undermining our democratic system at every single step of the way. Like, dude, like there are people around the world in China and Russia that is rolling around laughing that like our head of state could do more damage to the integrity of our system than some random democratic lawmaker on the news, you know, calling for like, oh, we need to get Trump out. We need to take Trump out. After protesters burnt down that police station, Kam harris said they're not gonna stop they're gonna be forewarned be be afraid they're not gonna stop this isn't gonna stop and they shouldn't stop you know like i think there's some equivocation to be drawn but it's but it's not like look like in terms of like we're talking about like nationwide protests we're talking about like the blm riots we're talking about like nationwide protests. We're talking about like the BLM riots. We're talking about like protest cops. And then you have on the other end, Trump saying 3 million people illegally voted in the last election.

The dominion voting machines are counting votes in Germany, like just patently not true things that leave no room for interpretation. Like saying that like the election has been stolen. Again, like we can, you can walk through like every Democrat, like soundbite that you can get over like the riots. But to say that there was like as clear a call. And the thing is, too, is that like we keep hearing like how dangerous and deadly all these things are. Well, where the fuck is like the like where was that? You know, like in all of the BLM riots and like this is the most right we've ever had in the entire history of the country.

I think around the same number of people were killed like the L.A. riots. Not a single cop got killed. I don't remember any cop killing a protester i don't i don't think so either oh i don't think i don't i know there were some grievously grievously wounded protesters there was that sure but then in one assault on the capitol we get a dead cop we get four or five dead protesters like well conservatives are more effective at virtually everything i agree with you there i'm glad you made that point but the the, and no, I completely agree that like, it's, it's very different. And when we initially talked about this on the last PK, obviously you weren't here, but, um, I was a little bit softer on the protesters because at that time we were unaware of any police officers being killed.

And what we were hearing was that maybe one had accidentally tased himself and had died from that. And I don't, I have a hard time being sympathetic to that. But then I saw this video of like the protesters at the Capitol, the mob, whatever the fuck you want to call them, beating a cop to death on video with an American flag. And I was just like, all right, I'm out. Can't defend that. There's no defense for that. You murdered a cop with an American flag. I am nowhere near your side of this argument anymore. Like, this is not what I thought happened because all the news footage I had seen was Capitol Police moving barricades aside and people walking into the Capitol. Capitol. And then afterwards, this footage came out of people breaking the exterior windows out with riot shields that they brought and then crawling in and, and the initial meeting that

cop to death looked a lot different than the coverage from a day or two later. Right. Initially there's that cute guy with the, um, the podium. There's the guy with who's cosplaying as a Buffalo or something. Yeah. There's a guy with his feet on the desk, which is like super disrespectful. But if that's your team, it's really cool, right? If that's your team. Can I ask you a question? Like, I know that you're more on the blue side,

certainly than I am a lot of the time. Carry on. But like Mitch McConnell's not my guy. You know what I mean? I hate Mitch McConnell. But he's like a necessary evil in some regards to like keep the balance of the force right like you need a satan for there to even be a good right there has to be some evil for there to be some good so like you want people on either side with differing opinions so that one side just doesn't go way off to the left and

or right sometimes do you have have any do you identify with or sympathize with or like people like Nancy Pelosi for example? I love Nancy. Oh yeah. I don't know what's so bad about her policies. I do see her as like an effective

creature of Washington. You know something else about her is she has huge tits and you can tell they were huge when she was little. Younger, like 20s. Looking for this now. Yeah, tell us what you find. Oh, family only fans. Like when

they wanted to impeach him, she was the one that sort of put that process together. When Trump shut down government, Trump kind of lost that argument. He looked worse in the public eye. And I think that because pelosi is navigating these politics better than trump did oh yeah and big huh and uh share something give us a link yeah i'm looking for a better pick than what i'm asking for a link kyle i never mind yeah yeah because right now i've just got like modern nancy pelosi but just wearing something that shows that she's got some jokes yeah so but like i don't know i i feel like she's not even pitching her own policy she's just

working on behalf of democrats maybe the same way that mitch does maybe there's like the thing is that like politics is so much more complicated than a lot of people give it credit for like people will look at a national poll saying like, oh my God, people support Medicare for all 52%. But what they don't realize is that like that might be like 82% support in New York and like 25% support in West Virginia. So when it comes to talking to individual lawmakers at the end of the day to figure out what they support, not every single person can be on the most extreme left policy that you have. And that's why Pelosi gets shit on a lot by people on the left because they don't understand why can't you just make every single Democrat vote for the most like be AOC

and it's like well because we lose every single seat if we did that like you can't do that you know true true yeah AOC goes too far for me I in particular I have I I like detest the idea of paying off student loan like it's it's a whole other thing but it is actually the worst idea ever is suggested in history everything that anybody in this audience thinks they know about student loans is just completely and totally wrong it's unbelievable like i found this photoshop i just want to be clear that i know it's a photoshop the net jesus the net spending that people spend on education today is about the same as it was in 2001 a lot of people don't realize that um like the value of a college degree like the time it takes to pay off an average four years bachelor degree is like about as low as it has been like lower now than it has been

like in the history of the U S like, um, the amount of debt that's being held right now, 55% of that debt is held by people that are going after graduate degrees, like upper, like middle-class people. Um, that, that, that really convinced me a bunch where someone laid it out where they're like, basically what you would be doing is upping taxes on working class people who couldn't afford to go to college so that that money could be applied to a post-grad person who's probably from a rich family. That's my argument. Yeah, fuck that.

It's bullshit. Even if it's just grad school, not grad school, undergrad school, these are still the upper crust of society in general, right? I know there's some guy out there with a degree that didn't lead to a job. But if you went to college, I say this this all the time your workplace injury rates are lower your pay rate is higher your unemployment rate is lower everything about your job is better you probably work in air conditioning if you went to college and now you're asking some carpenter to pay off your loans fuck you exactly stop complaining about how hard things are for you. The median wage difference between high school is like $32,000 or $34,000. The median wage for

a four-year degree is like $58,000. It's actually, it's ironically, in a paradoxical twist, college education is one of the biggest drivers of wealth inequality in our society because four-year degrees confer such a massive wage premium to you that it's unbelievable it's why people push for things like trade schools and associate schools because we have to bridge that gap because not everybody can go to college and get a four-year degree and if you can't you're fucked and the idea that some motherfucker wants to walk out of college earning 75 80 a year and is crying about his like 25 000 students like dude pay it back you you got your job it's fucking worth it like pay it back fine. Like, Jesus. The reason people go to college is because it's still a good investment. So that I don't like about AOC.

If there's something I do like about AOC, it's that I feel like she's always operating from a place of goodness. Even if I think she's wrong, I think that she's trying to do what's right. And I can't say that about all politicians. I can't say that about Trump. I think Trump does a whole lot of shit because it's good for him personally there's this it seems like there's example after example of trump just i don't know diverting military flights to scotland so that his golf course has a better airport support we're paying more to refuel planes now so that scott his golf course has a, the golf, the airport nearby.

It doesn't go out of business, right? That's Trump shit. It was see all her shit is like, I don't know, self-sacrificing death threats, et cetera. Or even if it's not, she thinks she's doing a good thing. I don't necessarily agree with this policy. She's probably against guns. We're not going to agree there.

She's definitely for paying all student loans. I don't agree with her on a whole bunch of her left or left shit but i do like that you know she's trying to do what's right and i don't think that's true of all of them i don't agree of the overwhelming majority the overwhelming majority i i think what we really need is term limits like really concise term limits like like two terms like make it like the presidency why because i think that they become creatures i i think that they uh make a entire career out of being a representative and uh and and they they just get bought off like like the main point that i was making last week when i was just like didn't give a fuck that somebody came in and desecrated

my capital is like that ain't my capital that's fucking pfizer's capital that's fucking microsoft's capital that's like big oils capital like like those people are all a bunch of fucking corporate shills they're they're they're in no way voting in my best interest they're voting in their own best interest a hundred percent of the time so i care way more about what facebook thinks of them. I also don't think it should be a paying gig at all. They shouldn't make a dime and they shouldn't be able to make a dime. No, because then only

really rich people will be able to do it. So this is something that people talk about this all the time and everybody will fight against this and it feels so fucking wrong. But honest to God, if you want to see why politicians do the things that they do, you honestly just need to look at who's voting um the idea that like corporations are dramatically changing the course of what politicians might otherwise support is actually

just completely and totally untrue a lot of people will talk like this big talk about how politicians represent like other companies and politicians blah blah blah but then like when you actually look at how people behave like it's actually not true at all. So the COVID relief bill had extra enforcements against live streaming, right? Pirating content. Correct. But you phrase it in that way. You think that's based on the voters? You think the voters were like, you know what?

We need harsher punishments for people who share UFC streams. If you talk about it that way, sure. But if I say the COVID relief bill is going to include more protections for creators that are going to make it so that this unprecedented age of the internet isn't allowing people to steal and pirate their content like how china abuses our intellectual property so that the rightful creators of that content can profit off of it well now it sounds like more right yeah actually that's a really good argument yeah and this is how a lot of stuff goes like people so for instance like earlier we were saying like oh they just represent big oil mother like fucking americans

represent big oil you know like i watched i lived through fuck was it it was sometime in the 2000s when gas started to get crazy four or five dollars a gallon in place which has never fucking happened before and americans will cry about the cost of gas while the most popular selling vehicles in america are f-150s and chevy chevy silverados you know um you know and all of these even unions will say like oh we need unions to protect the environment man fucking fossil fuel unions aren't sitting out here you know? You know, and all of these, even unions will say like, oh, we need unions to protect the environment. Man, fucking fossil fuel unions aren't sitting out here, you know, asking for the environment to be protected.

You know, I'm in California and to the south of us, there is like the largest, most cost efficient energy per kilowatt of a solar farm ready to be turned on. And the only reason it hasn't been turned on yet is because the state hasn't negotiated with like the local fossil fuel workers

to protect their jobs because they're all going out of business as soon as they flip the switch on that a lot of that's true but like you can definitely point to enormous things that like the majority of the population votes for like like what like high immigration not good for middle class wages it's not it causes wages to stagnate and people don't want that and so if you were just going by what the average person was voting for most of them are middle class and when they see their wages stagnate for years and years decades and decades they don't like that. And so if you were just going by what the average person was voting for, most of them are middle class. And when they see their wages stagnate for years and years, decades and decades, they don't like that. And like, they're not being represented at all.

So clearly people like the Koch brothers and big business who do benefit chiefly from low cost labor, H-1B visas, you know, they get the benefit. People say this, but it's just not true. People will say like who benefits from high immigration? Like nobody wants that. People will one end i don't i want american jobs i don't want all this bullshit and then they go and they shop at walmart and target and they buy things that are made for two dollars in some factory halfway across the world or they'll say shit like i want um i don't want there to be massive immigration like it's bullshit all these cheap workers come in but then when we say like oh cool well let's raise the minimum wage so we can pay americans like no fuck that wait what the fuck wait what i don't want to pay people money so well then you want

to bring immigrants to work for him people will make the same claim that like immigration is destroying local job markets but our unemployment before the coronavirus was like 3.25 percent which is lower than it should be we want to keep unemployment at around five percent for some friction on climate the idea that like like people are opposed to immigration it's kind of like when people say things like i'm opposed to getting fat and then they'll eat like all this fucking food and they'll get fucking fat and be like i actually like i voted against feeling personally attacked your destiny yes i'm feeling attacked people will make all these claims about things that they're for or against but their behaviors

just run totally contrary of that a really funny study that i saw was um people talk about like environmental change like climate change and when you poll people should we do something about the environment then the number starts at like 92% think that we should do something. And then when you say like, well, you make a $10 commitment a month to it, that number drops from 90% to like 70%. And then when you say, well, you make $100 a month commitment, it drops to like 20%. So you have all these people that will vote for these complicated ideas and polls will say, oh yeah, I support this or I support that. Like I want to fund our schools more. And then when politicians are like, all right, well,

how do you feel about property tax? Lower that shit. Fuck you. Lower property. It's like, oh, I guess you don't really want it then, you know? I think that that's more representative of a reality than some weird shadow corporation buying off politicians. I think politician opinion tracks like voter opinion, like pretty closely. I think that's just how it works. It's just, we don't want to accept that because things are so fucked. We don't really want to take responsibility for it. The other thing about immigration is that I think that's just how it works. It's just we don't want to accept that because things are so fucked. We don't really want to take responsibility for it. The other thing about immigration is that I think Taylor presented it as there were kind of two options.

We can either pay Americans a lot or pay immigrants a little. The third option is just shipping the job outside the country entirely. Well, we don't want that. Right. But if you have no immigration, maybe that's what you get. We're all competing with automation and global workforce. You do see that

corporations do that. You see that in one of Trump's bill nonsense, it was upping the H-1B visa level to unprecedented new heights. Who lobbied for that? Who wanted that? Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Google, because they want cheap programming.

Big tech is enormously powerful. You know, people, American citizens who are graduating with those degrees, who want those jobs, they don't want that. But this is, again, a lot of these things are just totally fictitious. People will say, like, oh, my God, like H-1B workers are coming in and they're destroying, like, tech jobs. But that's not true. Computer tech jobs are wanted, like, in every single part. Even in the fucking Midwest, they're still looking for more computer programmers. If you graduate with a degree in comp sci, you're like fucking anywhere in the country starting at 50, 60, 70, 80,000 plus a

year. In places where that's a lot of money. And then in San Francisco, if you get any entry-level job at any big tech company, you're starting at fucking six figures. Easy. This idea, it's so crazy that we run around and we say these things about immigrants destroying jobs, but you actually can't see it anywhere. It's not in any data point. It's not, it's not even in any reality. Like you've never in your life heard somebody say, we got to stop going to school for comp sci, like way too many H1B workers. They're killing us. Like it just doesn't happen. But somehow we all complain that they're stealing all the jobs. Like, I don't know. I just, the reality. I don't like my wages would have been higher.

I don't think it's stealing, stealing jobs isn't, you know, I don't think any of us brought that up. It's the it's the wage stagnation that I think people would have issue with because that is undeniable. Like low level, like low skill wages do depress, you know, the middle class and then high skill immigrants do depress like the standard wage for people who are trying to get in industries like that. Like, of course, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, they're all going to hire H-1B visa people if they want because they don't have to negotiate salaries with them because they're here on an H-1B visa. They can't negotiate. If they get fired, they have to leave. That's true.

If people don't know that, that's true. With H-1B visa, you're there to do that job in that country. And if you lose that job, you don't get a different one. You get shipped home. I mean, at the end of the day, it seems like all of us are supporting the growth of tech companies. All of us want them to continue to grow.

And people continue to use their products and services. And it feels like we'll take a strong moral position on something. But the way that we live our lives at the end of the day kind of shows that there's a demand for this, regardless of whatever cost there might be associated with it. We can talk about how maybe wages would have grown faster if we didn't allow any foreign immigrants at all. But even that we don't really know that's true. Maybe the growth of these companies on the backs of H-1B workers has allowed more positions to open up that have allowed companies to pay other workers more. Or maybe the growth is local when it otherwise wouldn't have been. Yeah, potentially. Yeah. Like specialization of labor, for instance, like when we did NAFTA,

a lot of people complained that parts of automation of the U.S. manufacturing of automobiles moved to south of the border. And while that was true, the overall amount of jobs in the automobile industry in the United States stayed roughly the same because a lot of the labor became more specialized in the U.S. to work on other things. It's never like a one. It sounds really shitty to say, and I hate that it's nuanced argument. There's never like a one-to-one tradeoff on like worker comes here and then job is lost. There's always like more growth and economic activity that comes off the back of that. And then from a macro level, just looking at things like it doesn't seem that we're suffering and all of these horrible ways that people sometimes say that we are like, believe it or not, prior to the COVID thing, I think it was like, like 70%

of Americans were pulled. And so they felt like the economy was going really well for them. And so we get polls like that. And then on TV, everybody's saying like, oh oh the rich are fucking everybody like all the jobs are getting lost it didn't seem like that experience was coming from like an average american person just like terminally online twitter people is what it feels like i have a question about the back to the trump thing so they impeached him a second time what should they do in the senate should they just not hear it and move on like they did the first time? I think they should fucking dump it. Why would you waste so much? Listen, I hate Trump more than any other fucker on the planet.

I fucking hate that guy. What? Isn't it five days away? If they impeach him or whatever, do the thing to him. He loses his pension, he loses his security detail, and he loses something else. It impacts his presidential lifestyle, and he loses something else.

It impacts his presidential lifestyle for the rest of his life. Also, there's a thing they can do that make it so he can't run for office again. Like, hey, you're kind of treasonous, you started an insurrection, you can't run for office anymore. That really impacts his influence on what happens now. Or he could let's say ted cruz wants to run next time he probably does you know trump can fuck with him by threatening to run whereas if he can't run then he loses that weapon yeah and we would all like to see trump fuck with ted cruz some more that is a positive why would you sit there and like waste like you have such a limited time under biden and you have It is a positive. You're much ugly. I didn't consider that.

Why would you sit there and waste? You have such a limited time under Biden, and you have such an ambitious agenda, and we're still losing 50 million people a day to the coronavirus. I feel like we need to just focus on shit going forward. I'm not one of these people to sit here and jerk off like, oh, we need to forgive and forget in unity, but we kind of do. We have a lot of shit we got to get done. Harping on the Trump shit is just going to make you sound deranged to everybody that's not like already bought into your political narrative like fucking eject that shit move the fuck on you know what i want to do this is what i would do if i were king of the senate i'd take it up in a hundred days and you know have a little hindsight and calm like you let biden try you know 100 days in the administration is usually the most

productive let them do the bipartisan shit let them do the unity things. Let them do whatever they can. And then once 100, 150 days has expired, let's use the wisdom we've gathered over that couple of months and figure out what to do about Trump. Should we just let it die? Should we look into it? What's Trump doing now? You know, that might guide what we do next. I guess like the scary thing is just that everything in politics is give and take. If you want you're gonna have to give something and i wouldn't i couldn't imagine losing like a public option in health care or some immigration reform bill or some 15 an hour minimum wage having to sacrifice that at the altar of the trump conviction thing like we're really legalized marijuana which is all i care about or yeah total reformation of

the dea um and all the scheduling shit is fucked yeah like i would hate to have to sacrifice any Or legalize marijuana, which is all I care about. Or, yeah, total reformation of the DEA. And all the scheduling shit is fucked, yeah. Like, I would hate to have to sacrifice any political ground there to fucking convict Trump. Like, the guy is like 400 fucking pounds. He's like 80 years old. Like, let him fucking go off. That's another good bet.

Will they legalize pot federally? Will Biden take his old ass hand, scribble that down with Kamala guiding his wrist? Will that happen? I think so. I'm on the hopeful side. I'm on the Blues fan side. I'm hopeful, but I expect nothing.

What I usually do in situations like this, like I do with UFC a lot, I want Conor McGregor to beat Dustin Poirier but if I bet $100 on Dustin Poirier I'm happy no matter what happens because I'm either gonna win $100 or my favorite fighters gonna win and be back in contention to get his belt back either way I'm happy that's a good way to do it so I totally think they're gonna legalize pot I don't know if they're gonna expunge records or if they, if it'll be in a way that helps Kyle. But the House already passed it. And now the Democrats own the Senate, too.

And I'm making this up, but I have to believe there's some Republican support for the pot thing. Like, they're not 100% against it. There's red states that have legalized pot. Yeah. So Rand Paul's in the mix for it right he's he's won yeah so i i just think they're gonna get it passed you know the the house is gonna do it again they're gonna pass it again just in the nick of time for somebody just not you but it's gonna pass i don't know why it hasn't i don't know why the republicans aren't

for it i old dumb shit there are so many issues that both sides i feel like they need to be a little bit flexible on and they'd win so many voters like democrat yeah democrats need to drop the fucking like crazy gun shit like just ease up a little bit okay and then republicans i think republicans and republicans get mad because they me like just fucking let go of the abortion thing okay listen just fucking drop it okay you lose so much also stop being racist okay republicans i as somebody that's grown up half cuban my family and grew up in a very very black neighborhood some of the most conservative motherfuckers that i've met in my life are brown and black if you would just stop being fucking racist you would have so many fucking allies here in these minority communities if you just they're very religious yeah holy shit they're incredibly

fucking religious very fucking traditional in terms of like gender roles and everything very like and stuff like if they want to personalize those are you know i agree with everything you said and want to tip my hat to the republicans you know you just wanted to ease off a little bit homophobia was a losing issue for the Republicans. It was just a variation of being an asshole. You know, you're just a fucking asshole giving people a hard time for

no gain. You're just like, I hate this kind of person because the Bible told me to. Yeah, you're taking the L's on this issue. Yeah, just fucking take a step back. And you would still say the Republicans are the anti-gay party if there is one. But oh, my God, it's died down a ton. Mike Huckabee coming out and defending the one woman that said she didn't want to issue certificate marriage certificates or like the master cake shop, the whatever.

Like, yeah, I just I feel like there are issues that both sides could just like drop and they would massively increase. Because, like, let's be real, like evangelicals aren't going to be fucking voting for AOC because Republicans have no longer harped on abortion costs. They're like, I don't know, I just, eh. Yeah, the Republicans should get, I think if Trump had legalized marijuana a year ago, he'd have won the reelection. I think that would have been enough to push him over. And I think that,

so if they get on the weed train, if they'd be the party of marijuana business, if they push that angle, like the tax revenue and how it's all going toward education, infrastructure, name a thing people care about. And then also, like you said,

get back off on the racism thing. They're making us all look bad here. It's a shit ton of money on the pot thing. They're like the best example of it. But have a drug thing helps the gun thing so much to the war on drugs contributes so much to fucking gun violence in the United States, which is like fucking 90% for fucking gang violence. Like if you shut that shit down,

you're helping so many different parts of your platform that like, fuck, like, it's so frustrating. I wonder, well, that like fuck like it's so frustrating i wonder well how will they morph in the next four years right will republicans make any of these positive steps that it's possible because they did it on the homophobia thing will democrats make any good steps forward or will they like be like now's our chance to rip guns out of your hands double down and be like uh we're back to neocon stuff we're just like bush jr again oh also iran's threatening us we uh we took a nice little break

from starting new wars the past four years but i'm rip roaring to go like they're gonna they're gonna try and fold back in they're gonna try and run someone like nicky haley some war you know some pro-war neocon like they're gonna try and expel Trump as far from it as possible and go on as though nothing happened back to Bush. If a man killed Trump, I think I'd be like, man, that's fair. Yeah. I mean, he got you. You got him. Let's call it a push. Don't let me on that. I'm not going to be here when the FBI calls. He's not president in this. How dare you? So there was an earlier part of this video got cut off. a lot of fucking digging into shit right now. He's not president in this theory. How dare you? I'm sorry.

I think there was an earlier part of this video that got cut off. So Donald Trump is a character in the Rush server that we're all on. And Iran was the base across the river from us. And Woody was talking about that. I don't know if that clip is a lot. Thank you.

That did lack context, yeah. Yeah. Ronald, easy mistake. I don't think the pro-war stuff is going to sell as much for, it's going to take at least another 10, people still remember Iraq too much and Afghanistan. I don't think people are going to be willing to jump back in. We need a good war.

That's what we need. We need to conquer something again. I'm always saying this. I've said it many times before. We just go in, blow up all their shit and leave. No, you go in, blow up all their shit, take over, and then you get paid to rebuild it. That's what we used to do.

That's what we did in Iraq, though, and that's where ISIS came from. We didn't conquer. We gave it back to the Iraqis. We take over Mexico. We don't need a wall. We're saving money. No, Mexico has a lot of the same animals we have. No, you take over a country that's got their shit together, Woody.

You take over Canada, everything just works. You're good to go. You're winning me over. Yeah, but once we subsume Canada, it's not going to work anymore. You're winning me over? Ah, shit, I can't find it. If we add Mexico to the Canada America, it's even worse! No, no, no.

We make Canada a territory, alright? They don't get to vote or anything. Not really. A Trump territory. Like what Trump thinks Puerto Rico is. Trump-a-da. Trump-a-da. Trump-land.

We make hockey the national sport of America. Insult to injury. That'll destroy their Canadian spirits. I like that too. Except we rank it as our fourth favorite and say they can't even have it as their favorite Damn That's called demoralization We should just conquer something

And I think that would Destroy a lot of infrastructure globally Like World War II was great for us Germany was fucked, Japan was fucked China was destroyed And Great Britain was fucked All their infrastructure they needed american products we need that again then the american worker flourishes i'm stupid

how did china get destroyed in world war ii japan joe japan just fucked up china all the time uh they invaded china uh you might want to google something called the rape of nan king i have that sure sure yeah yeah the japanese for some reason don't care for the chinese chinese at all they raped murdered pillaged tortured uh the fuck out of the chinese a lot of those horrific human experiments they did were done to chinese uh yeah first they rape and then china's population explodes and now they're a global leader in the economy you know i think that their population was pretty large before that. Don't question my history.

But like that, you're talking about the experiments and stuff the Japanese did, that vivisection, like living, like cutting someone open while they're alive and being like, how's this work? Can you live without that? No. Okay. Someone else. Can you live without that?

Oh, okay. One down. down yeah the japanese were much worse than the nazis i like to imagine like menga like taking a trip over there and he's like yes this is pretty fucked up hey real quick i don't i don't think it's fair to say the japanese were worse than the nazis i just want them to be on the record before i'm sure you don't think that uh i do though uh you know just because of facts mean, like, I mean, we can look at the rape of Nanking. This is like an ordinary day in some of the like, like vivisection was not exclusive to the Japanese. Like, yeah, but the Japanese had a whole division devoted to it. Like, well, so did Nazi Germany.

I mean, like literally the entirety of running the death camps and all the experimentation on like literally just, and a lot of this experimentation was even. First of all, there were no death camps. We've debunked that on this show. Oh no. Okay. How far? Oh my goodness.

How much of the show have I missed in the meantime? Well, we had an episode where we all presented a conspiracy theory that, that we thought was real. And I completely disproved the Holocaust. Yeah. Okay. Helen Keller was a retard. We also found out Helen Keller was a retard and she

was in no way communicative and yeah, it was an excellent episode. Everyone learned a lot. Yeah. I'll say this, all jokes aside, a lot of people have messaged me after my presentation and been like, you know, I thought you were kidding around.

I thought some of those facts you were laying out there were jokes, and you just made the numbers up and the documentation up. I did my own research. What the fuck, dude? Was the Holocaust not a real thing? Like, every time someone looks into the stuff, look, I wasn't there. I don't fucking know. I was never a Holocaust denier. I'm still not. I feel like you're the historian's

equivalent of an anti-vaxxer. These people are trying to confirm with you on your theories. Wait, is this real right now? Is this happening right now? Do we not think the Holocaust happened here anymore? Woody, what's going on? Not to the degree that it was purported. you can't tell where the truth starts and the jokes begin and i don't know i'm really lost see what do you grace wait what we just called the holocaust a

joke all right he's on the i can't believe you said that woody my twitch chat that's too far i you know saying it didn't happen is one thing, but laughing at it. Oh, my God. That is so funny. Somebody clicks on the video and it's like, conspiracy theory bit. And it's like, first part, Helen Keller's a retard. Woody's is like something about 9-11. And then you do the Holocaust.

And then, you know what? That is funny because no one has messaged me about Helen Keller. I have so many people. I did such a good job presenting it there were no questions to be asked is what I have I have so many people like you know I had I don't look I don't remember I don't have my dot my paper in front of me anymore like I did then but like I was one of the things was like to kill 10 million people and then like deal with the bodies afterwards it was like it was like the time scale that you would have like how many people you'd have to kill per second and then process that body over the course of like the nazi regime and it just didn't add up to like

anything possible fuzzy math for all of this where people try to say like this couldn't add up or this couldn't add up and like every single time you ever dig into any of, it's because they've either obfuscated some figure lied about the capabilities of something else, or just completely and totally ignored like some factory. That's not only universally agreed upon by every expert that's actually spent time digging into it, but then like the sources on the ground will contradict what they say too. I don't have my documentation in front of me,

so I can't fence an effective argument. However, I believe they were comparing modern crematoriums and using that data, not even using the 1940s crematoria that was in use in the death camps. But it just didn't add up. Where did they ship all the...

Here's like... There were a couple really easy questions. The first was, where did all the Jews go then? There weren't that many to start with they did they just make them up like it's not that many ever existed there are but we can right where is your documentation there's a lot of documentation in germany we're not in the 1500 actually i don't know when they started doing census we're not in like the 900s we're not in the they were probably even doing them in fucking roman and greek times we have census data we could see how many people existed before and after the holocaust there's a way that

we come up with these lists of names and numbers like where did all these jewish people that supposedly weren't cremated where were they shipped off to or where they like they ended up in israel there's a whole country of them there but you're not presenting it you're just saying hey there were i don't have i don't see your census data yeah exactly and anyone who's leaning upon nazi census data i think that's a flawed argument from the get-go right even even i can't tell if we're talking about this for real anymore of course we're not right of course we're not my bad no that's why it's called a bit no because they'll get you. Yes, they will get you.

They'll come to your house. Well, they don't come to your house. They just sort of have their own ways. They're like leprechauns. Also fictitious. Destiny. Hypothetical argument. Going back to this insurrection thing.

Yeah. Dude breaks a window. This is hypothetical. Goes in. They obey the velvet rope lines for some reason and they put their feet on a congressman's desk. What's the punishment? What does King Destiny lay down for someone who had

that level of civil disobedience? They have to tongue bath the desk where they put their feet on it. And then tongue bath because desk where they put their feet on it. Hmm. Um, cause that's also gross. That's a really, really,

really hard question to answer. Um, on the most emotional, the, um, the, the emotional take is that like they should all be tried for literal fucking like attempted coup treason,

um, citizen, whatever crazy shit for trying to disrupt like the democratic process of putting in a new leader. The more measure take is that like, you've got a bunch of people brainwashed and some crazy fucking cult that think that Nancy Pelosi is fucking dominion execs to make machines like spit up wrong votes or some shit. Like these people are so clearly far gone. You just like charging with trespassing. And unless they did some actual fucked up shit, fuck it i think that you like i think you just charge with sticks if somebody

stole some shit from the capital then charge them out they asked for it you know if it was a federal computer then for attempted theft of federal property or whatever charge them with whatever you can but the whole going extra over and over and over again i just think it doesn't just yeah fuck it yeah that's pretty balanced I've thought about it myself. And like, you know, my emotional argument was like, Kyle said he never felt like that was his building, right? So when he said the Capitol was down, I felt the opposite. I felt like, you know, it was harder to do that, right?

The joke is, you know, I'm no longer impressed with Nicolas Cage's ability to steal the Declaration of Independence. It turns out that you could just walk in there if you've got a big enough group and they pull the gates aside and wave you in. And yeah, I was where some cop just opened the door. I have seen that. Yeah. Now, there were all of those videos are fake. Just as a heads up, almost every single day one video is totally misrepresented. So there are plenty of shots, like even in that one where they're letting the protesters in, the camera pans out. That barricade is blocking nothing.

There were people all around, like behind everything. Even as that very shot pulls back, you see there's another protester behind it. There's a protester filming it. Exactly. Who's obviously on the other side of the barricade as they watch it get pulled away. And I'm like, how many people are on that side i don't know so anyway um my emotional thing was secret service goes in there they point the gun at their head they say put your feet down if they don't they pull the trigger right that was my like because you're not supposed to be in the capital

you're not supposed it's a coup it's treason it's wild to go in there and try and prevent the rightful president from you know getting the next job all right so yeah but it was like all right you don't actually want that right you don't actually want that these people may not have some did have coup on their head right they wore civil war so hoodies to the thing they brought confederate flags in it but um but a lot of these guys that's overkill that's stupid you're going too far and i was like you know what i think a guy should get for that four weeks four weeks i i kind of like that that's a life disruption it's a punishment it's probably not life-changing you know it it's as life-changing as an automobile accident where you're not hurt like it's a financial penalty that you have to sort of come back from and then you're okay and you won't soon forget it but yeah they're talking about decades

of prison yeah well people are talking about that trump talked about that he said he put a monument protection law in there that anyone who oh yeah yeah people got charged for that that would be extra trump did so during the blm protest trump put a 10-year minimum for people who desecrate monuments or whatever like your face yeah because they were like courthouses and stuff like that like is that sorry i don't think i don't know how they're charging people like they're kind of saber rattling now about how far they're going like like trump's rule of the 10 years for statues like has that it's obviously a bunch of statues have been vandalized like has anybody gone away for it oh i

don't know i don't know but um uh i think trump executive ordered it or something like it's a thing and now it's his supporters who were doing it in mass and i don't think he saw that coming you know the narrative was always like watch how peaceful we are we pick up our own trash we're the good protesters and that changed so like what do i actually want i think four weeks you know for people who go in there and like do shit go into the offices and put their like i don't know if you steal a hard drive from nancy pelosi's computer that's bad you're not supposed to do that one of the things that makes me wonder though the the argument that i could see pushing me to the other end of this and i just haven't thought much better because i don't know there's so many other things to think about right now um what if they would

have gotten into like a body of lawmakers what if they would have gotten into a room with a whole bunch of congress people like could we have theoretically seen for the first time in u.s history like a whole bunch of fucking lawmakers getting held hostage and killed by protesters history like a whole bunch of fucking lawmakers getting held hostage and killed by protesters the zip ties the gallows they constructed they were chanting hang mike pence yeah when i think about it on that end well now it's like these motherfuckers need to die what the fuck this is some crazy shit because like you said like why are u.s citizens overthrowing the capital um during our election process like we, we're a literal laughingstock. It's probably one of the most embarrassing moments in recent history of this country.

It's unbelievable. The Capitol's not supposed to fall. Yeah. The double ironic twist is that it looks like, I say this cautiously, unless a bombshell is released, it looks like the reason why federal troops weren't there is because the mayor, the MPD, the Metropolitan Police Department, and the Capitol Police specifically didn't want any federal presence there because of what happened last time. Because they were worried that more federal troops would incite violence. And it looks like the blame might actually fall on, I know the head of the Capitol Police already resigned, and even the mayor for specifically rejecting help over and over and over again because they were worried about repeating like a Lafayette Square

where federal troops are out gassing protesters and they didn't want that look, which is like triply ironic. So I read the opposite. That guy that resigned specifically request National Guard help and he didn't get it. Let me be. Yeah. So let me be very, very clear here because a lot of this concern. So one, the MPD, the Metropolitan Police Department, not the Capitol Police, they requested help from the National Guard. But the help that they requested was 320 or 370 unarmed, no riot police to help with like traffic and stuff. So that happened. But specifically, non-riot police officers. And then the other request that people talk about was that during the day of a few hours

after the riots had like broken into the buildings, when they were requesting from the National Guard, at that point, the chain of command got very fucky. And there was, I don't know if they denied the request, or it was just who the chain of command, there were a lot of arguments about like, who was responsible for this? Like, do we have authorization to go in or not? I don't think it was a specific, we're not going to help you fuck off kind of thing. I don't think it was specifically that going through the there's a whole bunch of people that have posted big timelines on this and that doesn't appear to be the case yeah like i'm reading quotes right now i am making an urgent urgent immediate request for national guard assistance i have got to get

boots on the ground yes and uh and they had no contingency plan and they said i don't like the visual of the national guard standing in a police line at the capital in the background and they're like the situation is dire literally this is a guy on the phone crying for help it's burned in my memories right and um they're going back and forth and they're like hey i want to be clear are you denying my request for for help and he said i'm not denying it i'm just not the guy who can authorize it exactly because there yeah there was so much confusion because and again they specifically rejected having contingency plans in place and i think a lot of it was they were worried that trump would send in federal troops and it would look bad so they're like nah fuck you we're gonna

deal with this around fuck trump fuck that and i think that actually came back to bite them in the ass i look forward to the to it coming out because i've seen it presented in a different way they were they were almost like we want to have people here and they're like no we like not having people here we like it being fucked and you say no but i feel like it's not known yet like it's still the reason why i know the reason why i would put money on this right now i would bet you against it right now the reason why i know that's not the case is because if those requests were being made and rejected, two things would have happened. One, it absolutely would have leaked because Trump has one of the most leaky administrations of all time.

Somebody would have leaked. MPD and Capitol Police make big requests. Trump shoots them down. It would have leaked 1 million percent. It has already. What? It has. They said they've been trying to get Trump's help and they couldn't.

Why couldn't they get it? Because Trump was watching it on live TV and not taking calls. That was day of though. I'm talking about preparation. In preparation, they didn't make any requests because this stuff is negotiated because they knew about this like weeks in advance. In preparation, they said, hey, you know, we're not asking you to be here. We're asking you to, quote, lean forward and be ready to get here if anything happens. I don't think that happened, though. That's the thing. Because the second thing I'd say is that if requests were being made for them to be ready to go in and they weren't doing that,

then the mayor would have been complaining on social media and all over the country. Because you have to keep in mind, the FBI was already on the ground making arrests in preparation for this vote counting thing. Remember that Proud Boys guy was arrested. Like the FBI had tips and everybody was on the up and up of this.

If they were begging the National Guard and the federal government to be ready, like, please, please, please be ready with troops. And they were like, we're not going to do shit. You better believe Mayor Bowser would have been on Twitter. Trump fucking us over. Everybody would have tweeted out he's not providing help. It was radio fucking silence because they didn't want any federal presence there. That's what I think. And I think that seems to be what's played out so far. But we'll see. Yeah. Yeah um we've probably done too much politics already but yeah i guess i'm reading that i'm just looking through this there is a lot of day of asking for i don't have any counters to your like preparation side but i'm not sure that

not responding to the day of makes everybody innocent either it's no i just think leadership was chaos cloud of war type stuff yeah the leadership up. This should have been prepared for it. They totally dropped the ball. I just, the reason why I like to focus on that is because like a lot of people are saying that like the cops were white nationalists. The cops let them in. It was a bunch of races. If this was BLM, it would have happened.

Bullshit. I think that every cop that was there did the fucking best they could. They were like, fucking, when you get macro shots of this, you've got like fucking, this is like left for dead tier shit. You've got like 40 cops standing against like an army. Like, what do you want them to do? Like, people were showing like videos of like the, like initially, like, oh, look at that black cop.

Like, he's just walking them up the stairs. Like, motherfucker, it's one cop running away from like 30 fucking people. What, do you think he's just going to start unloading his fucking Glock into the crowd? Yeah, that'll calm you down. They were totally unprepared for this. And it it was a it's a travesty and i think it obfuscates the issues that people starting to say like oh it's just racist cops that let them in because they were all white nationalists that just bothers the fuck out of me yeah yeah that seems pretty unrealistic and silly

oh cool yeah yeah all right so what else we got on the agenda for today i even need to circle back to the uh holocaust because i don't think we uh quite debunked it yet but we're you are flying too close to the sun icarus very well very well you fucking watch it with that shit fine oh little mitt's uh been offered a Twitch partnership, so congratulations to Mittie. Very happy for him. He thanked me last. Sensitive thing to bring up. What? What? What do you mean a sensitive thing to bring up?

He's saying because Destiny lost his and Mitt found it, I guess. I don't think Destiny cares. He doesn't seem too sensitive about it. He's an adult. He's making his money. Carry on. Persevere. Head held high. What are you going to do?

Shut up. Sometimes we got to just deal with the shit in life. If I start to get too stressed out, if I'm getting a lot of anxiety, maybe Kyle can mail me some weed or something. You think I get upset when I get raided in Rust anymore? I've been raided twice in real life. All right? I've had a real raid defense.

You getting stressed out at Rust? Give me a break. No, very happy for Little Mitt. He thanked me last night, but I'm sure a lot of it has to do with Taylor raiding him. So, you know, very happy for him. Hope he gets it. Yeah, good for him. That's great.

I spent like 45 minutes last night on stream before watching the blues game, just watching artisan people in Spain and Italy make ham and prosciutto and legs of it and showing like, you know, and then they must place it here, hanging it in a damp room with this special Italian air. room with this special italian air the mold begins immediate like and you see it and it's like that is so much more mold than i thought there would be on this ham and it looks gross for a while but you know the promise of deliciousness at the end just like a baby looks disgusting it'll be a person someday you know and so that's always exciting but it was it was great it was it's like erbeco erbeco erbeco your father's saying maybe not people right here but it's uh it's awesome it is some of the most like it's like watching how it's made but like your mouth is watering that's that ham that i sent pictures of and took and and sent to you guys like a few months back like i ordered uh some iberico ham it's stupid expensive like a couple ounces was

30 it comes like pre-sliced in this little like package. Dude, if you want that whole leg, it's like $4,600. Yeah. The whole leg is somewhere between 800 and $5,000 depending on the weight and like how fancy it is. Cause some of it comes from these pigs that are only fed acorns. Yes. I watched that video and there was this guy and his name was like Rodrigo or something. And they're like, you know, Rodrigo, because pig farming is so strenuous and the turnover takes so long, also sells acorns or no cork bark. So like it's not like an oak tree acorn. It's like cork acorns or something. And so like this guy was walking around even like picking up acorns off the ground and like feeding them to his pigs, explaining how it's going to make them taste better.

picking up acorns off the ground and like feeding them to his pigs explaining how it's going to make them taste better and they even did the allusion to it where they're like you know the pigs are happier than themselves and shit little do we know what's coming like and then and then it had like a dramatic cut with sad music and then it showed a guy carrying a fresh leg and it was like i could handle it i could watch that yeah right like we knew this is a video about ham what we ended well for the pig. Watching the butchering process is really cool too. The way they slice it. That guy's a master slicer.

He's got that crazy razor blade thing. He's just dragging. The slices are transparent. They're so thin. There was one clip and it showed Rodrigo with like... He often brings a personal ham for home. And so like just after work one day, he brings a $6,000 ham home once a week.

And then he's like, his daughter wants to try cutting. And like, he does that. And I've like, I've never watched a kid do something with their dad and be like, I wish that's what my dad did. Yeah. I wish my dad made $5, hams i could have had i could have had advanced heart disease by now if that would have been enough dude uh you should you should you should order like a couple ounces of it just to see what it tastes like because it's so

savory it's a little salty and just like it's a really complex flavor like i want to the only thing i know to compare it to is like the best bacon you've ever had mixed with the best ham you've ever had and like like some sort of flavor i can't even identify it was just really complex it's really fucking good yeah a little chewy and it was like it was crazy the amount of like artisanry that went into it like first of all i liked that it was the same italian dude the whole fucking video like it wasn, he didn't hand it off at any point. It was like, I'm the ham man. I take care of the ham.

And they, like, showed him. First of all, he had the scariest. He called it the ham cave or something, which sounds like a euphemism for pussy or something. But it was, like, really dark and damp and scary looking. Like, where he kept all the ham. It was a scary looking ham room ham cave and but he he takes one out of there and it shows how he tests it and he's like flicks it once with his middle finger and with that one flick he can know like this is this needs longer or this is perfect or this has

been in there a little too long maybe we can salvage it it's it's really watching stuff like that is so cool seeing somebody like i guess this is more of like an oldie time way to live your life where you weren't really a jack of all trades who knew a little bit about a lot of things it was like what are you gonna be i'm gonna be a ham man i'm not gonna know the first fucking thing about anything else the blacksmith will make the forks and the knives for cutting the ham i won't know a lick about that i won't know anything about planting crops i won't know anything about making bread i'm the ham guy that that would be refreshing yeah i like people who are professionals at what they do and like their entire youtube montages of people who are

like that like doing knife work and stuff and it looks so scary because they have these razor sharp knives like carving fish and stuff up and bare hands like mixed in or those people who are working in steel mill mills and like they have those long ribbons of glowing yellow hot metal flying around them and they're just like pulling it out of one end and sticking into the other as it goes through these two like wheels that like turn together to flatten it out yeah that stuff's interesting those japanese guys who carve up the uh i don't know if it's swordfish or tuna or whatever like those really big 800 pound fish and they're just going to work on that thing crazy fast that's really impressive too yeah i've watched like a whole documentary called like jiro dreams of sushi

and it was like this japanese guy yeah and he just like every morning he like sent his son out to go to the fish market and pick out like the finest one and it's like a million japanese guys they're all like looking for the perfect fish they're taking like core samples out of the tuna it's really they do that did you see it did you watch the document i've seen it before yeah i've seen a bunch of that stuff i like it it's great and like seeing all the care he takes to like place every little blade of seaweed, every little tuna filet. God, I'm hungry. I was like, oh man.

I think I OD'd on fiber yesterday. So I like my girlfriend made some like nice fajita vegetables and some grilled chicken that was really good. And I got some raw jalapeno slices and some chili pepper sauce. And I was making some tacos for dinner. And they were like these like, oh, these are lower carb tortillas. And I'm like, there's one of those where it's like, this is the size of a normal tortilla. I'm like looking at the I'm like trying to see like, are they being sneaky? Are there three servings per tortilla here and it's like no it's one serving how's it 50 calorie oh it's one tortilla is 70 of my daily fiber i had five and it was it was three at dinner and then two during the blues game and then i got i woke up in the middle of the night at like two

in the morning and i was really hungry so and then the only snacks we had in the house was a fiber one bar and so i ate that it was the chocolate chip kind it was really fucking good the only chocolate was x lax but what the fuck eat for a penny for a pound i don't know why i lied just then i had two because i was embarrassed to say that but I did and it wasn't the chocolate chip kind it was the lemon bar it was only 70 calories a pop but if you're gonna go fiber one the chocolate chip kind is the way to go but I had two of those the little fiber one brownies and this is after all that already I'm feeling gassy I've been gassy all night like it's red the kind of farts that resonate and just loud.

Like my body was percussive and, but like, like dry fibery farts, just a lot of air. And I was having that all night into the morning. I think between 8 AM and 1 PM, I think I shit six times and each one up until shit five was substantive. Like I guarantee there were,

you know, fajitas from ages past that were also forced through the slough, the truck, the old pipes. Yeah. So I, I think like if I added up what I have 430 of my daily allotted fiber yesterday and that's assuming nothing else i ate all day had any fiber whatsoever yeah that's a lot of fiber

yeah did that it was cleaned out though i'm like i don't think i'm gonna have to poop for a couple days i don't think that's how poop works but. Were there a lot of calories in the fajita bread? No, that's what I was saying. It was like 50, no, I think it was like 60 calories per tortilla. It was something so ludicrously low that the only thing that made sense is when I looked at the back, it's like, oh, it's 100% insoluble or soluble fiber. It's just made out of fiber, basically. So it's not going to be delicious like flour like flour tortillas are great they taste i like corn tortillas too so this is you're not going to bite you will bite into this and no it's not a real

i didn't know that i i think i didn't understand that part okay i i since i started counting calories i had a meal that i always considered kind of healthy it was like chicken salad and i know you're thinking the mayo but it was a very we were counting calories so we carefully used like a teaspoon not a tablespoon of mayo and it's calories but it's not a ton it turns out two pieces of naan bread is like 1400 calories or something oh yeah i didn't know i thought it was a healthy meal because it's chicken and lots of celery and carrots that's healthy things no man uh yeah so that's one of the few days that i've gone over the worst thing when you get into like counting calories and stuff the worst thing is finding out that every single food that is carbs

is just so fucking many calories it just kills you that one croissant that's like the same amount of calories or more as a full chicken breast. And you're just like, oh God, how is this possible? Or pasta becomes impossible. All breads become impossible. I eat a baked potato. I'm counting them. I weigh it to the gram.

Like it's not a lie, but I find baked potatoes so satiating. If I were just to try to diet on vegetables and grilled chicken, i'd be hungry all the time oh really yeah i would be hungry right after every meal i would always be hungry i i if you eating like a chicken breast doesn't fill you up at all you still feel hungry afterwards i would be hungry again soon yeah but the potato is so satiating i'm that's how i do it like i usually i never like to bake the potato i feel like that's not as flavorful.

I like to cube it up, put it on the pan in the oven and then put rosemary on there and then roast them. That's a little more fun version of potato. I'm sure that's better but I don't know what else is getting in the potato. I used to do this. This was a standard meal for me. This is Woody clean eating. Not calorie

counting but just thinking that he's doing well. George Foreman chicken, baked potato, mixed vegetables clean meal right pat of butter on the vegetables a pat on each side of the baked potato turns out three pads of butter is like 280 calories it's it's yeah butter's awesome yes but i it doesn't pass the cost benefit analysis yeah that sucks yeah yeah i'm having to count calories now on my fitness pal and i just all the things i like are so high in calories like even like just a couple pieces of deli meat you're like like in your head you're like and you never only eat a couple like you're just eating salami or super saturday or capicola or whatever and you're like this is like protein and then you look at it and it never only eat a couple, like you're just eating salami or super saturday capicola or whatever. And you're like, this is like protein. And then you look at it and it's like, Oh no, it's not. No, that is emulsified fat and, and spices and salt effectively. It's not at

all good for you. The best thing, um, in my opinion, um, that ends up working out well as a snack, surprisingly is popcorn. Um, I'm going to like to snack on a snack, surprisingly, is popcorn. I'm going to select a snack on a lot of like, because I, unfortunately, if you like salty stuff, you're usually in the okay zone. If you like chocolatey stuff, that shit is fucking so fattening. Holy shit, but I love chocolatey stuff. But for snacks, popcorn is actually

surprisingly like, I think like a little bag of that skinny pop stuff is like 70 calories or something, and it's okay. It's like a decent bag of food, as opposed to if you get a bag of cookies, pop stuff is like 70 calories or something and it's okay like it's like a decent bag of food as opposed to like if you get like a bag of cookies you're looking at like fucking if you look at like oreos or like eat like keebler double stuffed cookies these are like 100 calories per cookie it's like oh god fuck and there's no way you're eating two fucking cookies when you dig into a bag of this like you're going like 10 or bust at least you know

oh yeah if you don't finish a sleeve you didn't even snack exactly yeah melons are made every yeah every oreo container is good for ideally three sit-down occasions one sleeve two sleeve what is it with those four sleeves right three or four i think there are four in there there are four okay still three sitting seat downs you know they made the resealable oreo bag that was a deadly go stale it's a win for you like now they're just fresh for weeks if you want everything all the bags are now remember when we talked about what was the technology that blew our mind yeah resealable oreos oh i saw i was walking through the aisle the other day an aisle that i don't belong in and i saw triple stuff oh that's can you believe that this is the technology that's blowing my mind and it's not i thought i thought it was uh i thought every child had the experience where you guys must

have built you made your oreos right yeah everybody built a super and i feel like maybe this was just me but i thought everybody had the moment where you had constructed just this monstrosity of a fucking 10 stack high Oreo, and then you eat it, and it is just fucking disgusting, and you're done. You're like, all right, I had my share. Double stuff is perfect. All right, we're not doing this anymore.

Honestly, I like the cookie part. I like the cookie part more than the cream. Oh, that's bullshit. If you had to eat one I'm just saying If you could buy one product Even with the Holocaust now this is probably the worst take you've given on this show If you could buy either a tube

Of the frosting from an Oreo Or a bunch of chocolate Oreo cookies that had no frosting On them which snack would you prefer I would purchase the assembled Oreos That's not an option. You're chained to my radiator. Oh, fuck.

Oh, the turntables. You know what? No, I would take the... The wafers are unremarkable. Kyle, is there milk available in this scenario? Of course, there's always milk available. Yeah, I've changed. As a child, I would have said the stuff. As an adult, the milk and

cookies, they work. I do remember having exactly what Destiny said where you make a 10 stack and I remember being like this is going to be the most delicious thing ever. And you bite into it. I remember biting into it like corn on the cob just into the center part of the cream

and you chew. And that first bite, you're so high on your own supply that it's still pretty good and then after like three bites of nothing but cream you're like turns out the oreo r&d department they know their shit you guys lived in this world of like endless oreos i couldn't go wasting oreos by making a 10 stack or something outrageous i got in trouble for uh stealing sodas out of the fridge all the time. Cause I was supposed to, as a kid, always ask permission if I could have a soda and I would like run upstairs

with my mom or dad wasn't watching and like bring three into my room and drink hot soda late at night. Feel like a bad-ass. It's just like, yeah, it is pretty bad-ass. Yeah. That's nice.

Well, I mean, I was seven and I just wanted to stay up and, you know, play Pokemon on my game boy. I need the caffeine oh man that was i remember think that is such a funny thing to remember like even as in high school like i never ever went out and bought my own food or anything like there was always food in the house so i would buy there if i was going out i'd go to a restaurant or something and um like oh fuck i forgot where i

was going with that i totally got i just had a total brain fart you know what it probably wasn't funny you know it probably was gonna have no payoff and nothing at the end now i'm in monologue i'm gonna do to you i'm gonna do to you what happens whenever i could lose six minutes of show and they're like man that time we covered that topic for the fourth it was the greatest we were on a roll it was so we talked about the greatness of nazi uniforms first time ever the topics come up and uh it was a gem that you guys will never see fuck woody so that's that's what i'm doing with taylor's uh story it was going to be wonderful it was going to be great maybe i'll remember you guys he just blew it big time god i'm a fucking dumbass god

hate myself that's okay hot soda is disgusting it is bad but like if it's the only version of soda that's you know attainable water is preferable no no as a kid i wanted that that sugary sweet soda what kind of soda was in the fridge i was usually coke usually coke yeah this is not an elite soda if you told me it was like ibc black cherry or something i'd say any oh shit god damn that's a top tier soda with the glass bottles and everything yep yep yep you gotta buy a six pack at a time you can't even save the money of getting a 24 pack fuck i think i have an IBC cream. What? He couldn't even finish the thought.

He wants that cream soda so bad. You guys have, we have an addict on the show, Kyle. We should state some sort of intervention. He sprinted away for sugar. His mic cut off. What happened? Did he rip a wire out? He muttered himself before he could even finish his thought

and went for the cream soda. Yeah, that is a top tier soda. Like the black cherry like ibc uh like those things are so fun it's just so sweet it's like a dessert it is a liquid popsicle basically is yeah really you nailed it yeah um the cream soda is good but the black cherry is the elite one it's the best cherry cherry anything is kind of one of my favorite things. Occasionally, there would be maraschino cherries in the fridge growing up. There's little jars.

Sure. And I'd look around. Nobody's about. And I'm going to pour every bit of the juice into a glass of Diet Pepsi and be like, ha-ha, super cherry Pepsi. And it's incredible. It's incredible. You're doing really well. I don't know why you did Diet Pepsipsi in this because that's all we had that's the other thing i was going to say

like like we never had real soda in the fridge like like it was because because like we just drank so much diet pepsi like what is this georgia family doing with pepsi in the fridge it's better diet pepsi is far superior to diet coke however coca-cola is far superior to pepsi as wings of redemption will tell you he's a pepsi man he is a pepsi man that's right and he wants everyone to know it loud and proud but he is actually a coca-cola man is a coca-cola man yes he's a coca-cola man he had pepsi or asked for a pepsi or something and became a meme and now i think he's like at least meme about coca-cola because that's the better one that's what's in my fridge raider raider fridge raider oh fridge raider right i see i thought that's

what's in my fridge right walk to the fridge or a pepsi look at that ibc creams is your mic on taylor yeah it's on this has been this has been in my fridge for like five and a half months and it's been like in that section of like the back part of my fridge that's behind like sauces and sauces that i don't i don't poke into very much what a nice surprise i totally forgot about i better see that in your uh what the fuck is it my fit in your uh chronometer yeah but he doesn't use that he uses a different my fitness pal like a pleb oh 180 calories for just one soda oh come on that's how many servings once one bottle is the 180 okay good good so i think i haven't eaten as much as i should today i think after this 180, I still have like

500 more I need to muscle down after the show. Muscle down? Are you having trouble beating your mild caloric? Well, muscle down is in like, it's not going to be food I want to eat. It'll be like a chicken breast. What do you put on your chicken breast? There are a lot of

low calorie sauces, like hot sauces, like no calories. Well, this one is just like, it's like some pre-seasoned one that my my girlfriend bought at the store and usually those ones are good like you get them at the deli area and they're like rubbing something and this one is funky there's something you can take chicken breast and just douse it with salsa which is like no fucking calories and then bake it in the salsa and it's really good i'll just do that from now on then i got this this ghost pepper salsa that they sell and it's not bullshit ghost pepper where it's like they just try and burn your mouth as much as they can

it actually tastes good yeah and i might try that on there or some jalapeno verde salsa that'd be tasty how long you've been using my fitness pal off and on for many years. Every time I get this run. Oh, a few weeks, pretty consistent. So you're into it for a bit. OK. Yeah. It's been like two plus weeks, almost three weeks. I've been pretty spot on with my diet.

I think I'm down like three and a half, four pounds. So a long way to go yet. Destiny, are you a are you a runner at all? I try to walk and run every, four pounds. So a long way to go yet. Destiny, are you a runner at all? I try to walk and run every now and then. Trying to. I couldn't remember. Because anytime I see someone who I assumed never had a fat phase, I'm like, they must do cardio.

Or maybe they're just not an absolute glutton. Like Filthy. Not much, yeah. Like Filthy's always been just skinny as a rail because he likes to bike. Yeah. And bike yeah who knows he mountain climbs bikes I guess he's active as fuck yeah and it sounds like his sex life is strenuous as hell

that's his cardio yeah oh I almost forgot big fuck show this month big fuck show in the $50 Patriot look normally I would tell you guys, we're two weeks into the month. This is not the time to sign up for our Patreon. However, in these two weeks, not only do you get all the shows early, the video versions early like you normally do, get to put your AMA questions in,

get to join the $50 Discord, maybe game with us some nights. We've been playing a lot of poker lately. You're getting quite the fuck show this month our boy whose name shall not be uttered went out bought himself a $1,000 sex toy he got himself the motor bunny sibian the same model i have great minds think alike and uh he's gonna throw the uh the old lady on that thing and i wasn't promised an ass fuck but but it was alluded. He told me that his preferred method was to get her on the Sibian and then fuck her in the ass while she's on it and just rail that thing up to 11.

One way or another, we're going to see her ride that thing. That's just going to be really awkward. Yeah. What? 22 other patrons in there. The best part about the sex twice. The best part about like these, these,

these PK hangout fuck shows is that Taylor is noticeably awkward. Like he's just, he's just like, all right, there's your, there's your wife's pussy. Yep. There all right there's your uh there's your wife's pussy yep there it is and and there's 25 strangers okay they're all watching with me and what do you call it here oh what what he's enjoying himself oh kyle is too god i hope

i was like that that technique there it's almost a guaranteed win that's a winner that i just joining the chat and seeing like a mostly naked man and a sex swing and a naked woman and i was like oh i thought we were like uh mostly joking about people fucking on the patron hangout and he's like no no we're gonna we're gonna fuck on the patroning no wait so is this like a real thing hold on i'm i don't know where the truth is beginning is this when you're a member of our Patreon, there's a $50 a month level where we do this monthly hangout, where we jump in a call just like this one, the three of us, and 25 at a time. We have to do two, maybe even going on three shows because there's so many of them now with the guys. We answer all their questions, and we tell funny stories, and oftentimes they're doing crazy because our fans are ridiculous so they're all doing drugs and holding weapons and

like lots of guns and weapons all sorts of crazy and memes and characters and it's it's an interesting group and uh you know we had a black guy show up in blackface we had a black guy show up in blackface r.i.p yeah r.i.pIP to him. And we also had, you know, we've got that Asian guy who comes like dressed like Viet Cong with the rice patty hat. It still feels racist somehow. It still feels racist somehow. He does the accent as well. And he doesn't have one. He's from Cali.

He's not being racist against himself. But I'm racist for laughing, I feel. It's almost like I shouldn't enjoy his his humor uh well somehow someone promised to like fuck their girlfriend like during one of these and then fell through with it because they're a poon he was on my stream yeah and he said he was joking but the joke was via text donation so you don't get the subtleties of like voice and clinic yeah anyway yeah so he's being serious of course so someone else i'd be a text so another guy who's a fucking man of his word stepped up bigly and bigly yeah broke out sex toys and his uh his girlfriend and had

her like naked on stream for life right am i right i don't know and uh she's a lady and um bitch i can confirm she's a lady tone that down and had her naked on on stream for for what taylor would might say was far too long like long after the fucking had ended she's just naked she was on the bed they're chilling her own skin i liked her i like her attitude we all like her we all like confidence was there he offered me my own private show and i told him that was a little awkward and i i i didn't i i'll just wait for the the group show like everyone else i'll wait my turn no special privileges for me i prefer my private shows via recording what's his username again i'm gonna mess i don't want to say but i But I'll tell you. No, no, no. Tell me in private, and I'm going to message him before this goes live, saying that you mentioned this and that I'm interested.

Okay. As long as you don't message him and say that I'm interested. No, no. I mean, say like, I heard about the offer you gave to Kyle. Yeah. Is that okay? Oh, yeah. That's 100% okay.

I just felt like uh i didn't want to take i didn't want any special privileges that was more of a kyle thing we were offering not that we don't like you but uh she's got the hot yeah she thinks you're fat yeah i um i i'll wait my turn like everyone else and I think it's going to be very entertaining this month because I have some personal experience obviously with the Motor Bunny Sibian. Sibian is a brand, but it's like the ubiquitous brand that everyone knows.

But Motor Bunny is also a brand of Sibian style sex toy. It's ridiculously powerful. Like it's loud. You guys thought the auto blow was loud? The auto blow is like yum yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. This thing is like a fucking gasoline lawnmower in your bedroom. When you crank this bad boy up his head, it's, wah!

Does it move on the floor? Do you have to tape it down? I've got carbon in here, so it can't. I put it on the floor do you have to like tape it up well i i've got carpet in here so it can't and i also i put it on the bed when uh when we utilize it um because you know you don't want her on the floor over there you want her in bed i was picturing like a big stand kind of no no no ridden a bull it's uh it's i'm gonna say it's like a mechanical bull, but small. It's about as wide as my shoulders long and like just wide enough. Cause it makes a, you like a saddle for like, to be appropriate to like sit on.

So it's not really big. Like I can pick it up and like move it around wherever it needs to go. And you know, you've got a power cable and a controller. What attachment do you use in the top? I have many. And it was really funny. I was talking to our boy about this and I was like,

we're talking about our respective kits this and I was like, we're talking about our respective kits. And I was like, yeah, I got the like fucking Howard Stern kit that comes like three or four attachments. But then I went on Amazon and I purchased this one, the little rascal. I went on Amazon.

I purchased the little rascal and it's that pink. It's like a longer pink attachment that goes on there. And he's like, yeah, yeah, this one. And I'm like, that's the one. He also went on Amazon and bought

the same exact attachment because the Motorbunny, it's sort of claim to fame is not only does it vibrate like fucking insane mode, it also oscillates. The attachment is doing the little whirly-doos the whole time. You control

how intense the whirly do's and vibration are independent of one another so it's doing while you're while you're at the control panel all sorts of stuff are you laying back and she's sucking your dick or is she too distracted by the vibrations and she's doing her own thing and you're kind of djing i've only used it a couple times and mostly i was enjoying the show and having fun like it was a video game because it was so fun to like, what do you feel about a little bit of this? It's too much!

Turning it back down. Sorry about that. Did you ever do it along to music? There was no music, no. No. He's like, this is awful. It's just awkward now and I'm sore. Really it's like i told you i can't come to fucking skrillex yeah uh drop it's so rude sandstorm so having some personal

experience with the thing i know that this is gonna be very interesting uh especially if he gets behind her while she's on it which which would be pretty ridiculous. They are very sexually active, I guess, because he popped in the chat last night while we were all playing one of our poker games and he was a little out of breath. They're like, dude, are you out of breath just from telling us about this sex toy? He's like, nah, dude, I just fucked. I just fucked and sprinted to my

computer. I have to let everybody know that I fucked. Well, yeah, that'll be uncomfortable. Just kidding. It'll be fun. No, no. It is interesting when they're doing the thing. You get to decide how you react.

Oh, I know, but I'm more just teasing. Got to have people thinking all night. What do you say like uh it's funny when when things like that are happening and like you know someone's fucking and there's some guy who's also on the call is like kyle i wanted to ask advice about a gun like woody i had stock advice can i can we turn off the fucking just for just a second no we're here for four hours dude you just keep your stock tips for uh for later what do you get what do you think it over while while we watch this fuck show that's going on so yeah what i was getting at was like normally i'd recommend you sign up for patreon on the first of the month that way you get 30 days of coverage

nothing we can do about changing that that's the patreon system but shit today might be the day you get yourself two weeks and a fuck show. I don't know if the fuck shows are going to be a monthly thing forever. So you might want to get in while it's hot. That's all I'm saying. If you have any interest in said fuck show. I'll be there. I'll be there.

I might set up for it. I don't know. It sounds interesting. Destiny's going to get there too. Destiny's going to hang out. I mean, we'll probably give you a little discount. If you want to watch the fuck show. You don't even invite him we charge him you guys do you take audience requests for this do people like oh turn this volume or whatever uh i mean i believe they are i believe they have an only fans

um so like that was mentioned about a month or two ago um because like yeah that was mentioned about a month or two ago. Um, because like, yeah, that was mentioned a month or two ago. I don't know if it's established or if it's in the process of happening, but yeah, I'm sure they would take requests. They seem to really enjoy, uh,

exhibitionism and, uh, being seen. Um, because like the first fuck show was not the first time I'd seen that young lady naked. I'm looking for their. I'm just going to let that marinate on you.

You guys ever have the moments where you're where you were browsing? I say we're, I guess, because now all he's been removed from at least Pornhub. You remember the moments where you're browsing porn and you look at like one of the recommended videos and you see something and you're like, I remember watching that when I was 14 years old. You see something that's like a blast from like the kazaa or not yeah really like lime wire my god yeah and you see it and it's like oh my god the whole like nostalgia of the early days of everything come rushing back i'll tell you heather brooke she's still out there sucking dick if you want to if you want to link to that so So I use X Hamster, which has not removed all the amateur content, thank fucking God.

Fuck Pornhub. X Hamster is your ticket. The letter X and then hamster. There's no fucking animal fucking. It's just a very unfortunate name. The one from Kazab that is forever seared in my mind is this Russian girl. I think she's in a sex swing

maybe or maybe she's like lying back on what looks like an exam table it's a dark ish room and the guy takes an entire magnum i think they're called of champagne and puts i think it's into her pussy but it could be her ass i think it's her pussy though he like slowly inserts in her pussy and then he starts ram fucking her with the full bottle we all know what happens when you shake champagne so it's gushing out with like incredible psi every fucking where and i don't know if she's enjoying it or hating it and i just don't care anymore she hated it she knows what she signed up for wait what was the cork situation the corks off like they do this they do they pop it like you're supposed to you know yeah and then they

thumb over and well it doesn't leak at all they've got a stable bottle of champagne and they slowly insert it in and then starts the ram fucking which is shaking the champagne and fucking her and so it's just gushing back out like i mean and it's not a don't think like a standard bottle of champagne he's got a big boy it looks like he just won the fucking f1 championship or something it's he's just going to town in there did you beat off to this video often or you just remember it i just remember it because i'd never you know i was like 12 to beat off to i was like 12 or 13 so just like and and on kazaa and linewise you know downloading porn downloading porn and so i don't remember i i don't remember like i wouldn't think that that's something that i would have thought was hot like like like to beat off to but it was

definitely there was a lot of stuff on there that it was like this isn't masturbation material this is just educational i didn't know things like this could even be i remember a friend of mine oh it's still around i just checked he uh this is like middle school maybe he was like i found this new site it's called frog sex right my my parents don't even know that this for some reason this one doesn't get blocked on our whatever filter and so like he apparently looked at so much frog sex.com it just bricked their computer jesus just destroyed the whole thing but yeah it's apparently still here it's not once again not like similar to x hamster there's no frogs fucking is she wearing uh fishnet stockings

kyle by chance link it yeah link it let's see a little detective work i'm gonna have to see the video i linked it watch yeah oh yeah i know i saw the thumbnail but now we're going to the video. Oh, it's old timey enough. That's for damn sure. This is only a one minute video. And,

uh, kind of, I think it's about what you said. I think good champagne. Is that important? No, that's it. But they started on the label. Like you wouldn't think it would be important.

I don't think this is it. Cause I remember a wider angle, but this started on the label. You wouldn't think it would be important. I don't think this is it because I remember a wider angle, but this is very similar. I remember a lot more pressure. Oh, this is pretty funny. And as I do this Google search, there's a lot of these. Oh, God. What is this?

You just made it to the end. No, I'm on Bing. I saw a nipple pierced by like a dozen syringe needles or something like that i don't need that in my life what do you search i search champagne bottle fucking pussy or something like that like nothing crazy jesus it's a related video what do you search i search nipples pierced 20 times by fucking syringes by dirty syringes yeah it looks like this is a genre because it's oh my look at look at how much of that is spraying and look it's like the pussy is guiding it out

in the stream yeah that one and all this one he puts it in there you have to get like 20 seconds in and then he shakes the bottle he like wiggles it side to side and uh it fits the pressure requirement that kyle mentioned see this one's better because they're doing it in the tub did you see him shake it yet no not yet but you can see uh you can see that you can see the bottle water level or liquid level. That other one, you couldn't see how much was spraying out. Yeah, now he's shaking. Oh. I want to see a ghetto version of this.

Oh, man. And she immediately is like, get out of my pussy. That's hilarious. What a dick. He puts it in all gently careful not to spill a drop I promise I won't shake it

but you always shake it when we do this I don't trust you in the related videos are tons of chicks fucking toe hitches and gear shifters yeah well I don't know right fucking here I'm seeing a lot of champagne bottle oh no I found it it's called my pussy cat my pussy cat yeah I linked it

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of those. Is this a gear shifter? No, that's a tow hitch, I believe. Did she put a condom on it? Well, of course. You don't want to get impregnated by a Dodge. Oh my god, this is the third time I feel personally attacked.

I don't like this either you know what this isn't doing it for me a little vanilla over there if you ask me i'm still totally flaccid yeah even if you're not into uh the idea of the fuck show this month come to see taylor get uncomfortable because i'm gonna exacerbate it as much as I can. Oh, yeah. If I can get her... At 11 a.m. I hate to spoil it, but I'm going to see if I can get her to moan Taylor's name just to really make

it rough for him. And other things. Okay. This is my homework for the next two weeks. I'm up for it. You'll be busy. You're going to get that done in just two weeks one one request yeah that only gives me like 24 hours a day click click and all right for the next two oh what do i have? Oh, I have that show on Thursday night. And I have Rust 11 hours a day.

11 is not even close. I've been doing 15 to 18 hours a day on Rust. Like, we're really... 18 hours. You're going to get a blood clot. I get up and move around, you know. My feet will get a little cold or something. I got to keep moving.

For real, I know you can't sit for 18 hours and be healthy. Do you get cold just sitting so long? Yeah. I mean, it's cold in the house. In the winter, I get free gas here, but my furnace isn't gas. So a lot of the times, I'll just use the fireplace. It's like, Jesus, it's free. It seems so wasteful to turn on the electric furnace.

So the electric furnace is on like 63 so before i turn the fireplace on it's 63 degrees in here and really fucking like my feet will get like ice cold do you ever uh sit on the toilet so long that your feet and like legs start to get cold and go to sleep and then you have nowhere to go. Then you just have to like crawl. You just gotta crawl. You gotta crawl away. You just nosedive forward like a knocked out fighter. I'm going through my hallway. Han!

I just wiped my ass! I can't reach it. My legs are too numb. Granny! Granny! If you have this much trouble shitting, it seems like the colonoscopy bag is probably an upgrade. It might be. That's a fair point i just dude on the go shitting i just take it in the bathroom like a go-gurt bag just right into the right into the paper towel trash can on the go shitting and a wonderful prank device you're the worst guy with a colonoscopy bag you just put it in a garbage can

you gotta imagine too if you're ever in a public scenario nobody is ever fucking with you you can unsheathe a weapon that nobody will want to fuck with like yeah he's got a knife to keep a distance he's got a gun he's not gonna shoot me but a guy is willing to take out and show you his fucking colonoscopy bag

oh shit like you don't know what somebody like that's gonna do shit all over them even if you do kill the guy you can go home smell like shit there's no better knife attack deterrent yeah then a visible colostomy bag because no one wants yeah no one wants to get poop all over their hands especially not someone else's even getting your own poop on your hands especially if there's a risk of getting poop in an open wound right you can cut yourself things could go wrong you don't want to it's not a risk of getting poop in an open wound. Right? You could cut yourself. Things could go wrong. You don't want to... It's not a risk I'm willing to take.

Can your own poop... Yeah, your own poop could infect you. I don't know why you'd be immune to your own poop. It's... Yeah. Yeah, that was a dumbass question. Okay, if you want a dumbass question, I can top it with, when does poop become dirt?

After like a year. Well, the harder question is, what is what is dirt old poop all of it a lot of it is like leaves and vegetation that rotted or is that just bug poop it's it's rocks that have become made little by nature i just everything is rocks depending on how little you acted like this was the dumbest thought i've ever had but i i'm sure i've had dumber. I just feel like you take poop, you dry it out, you put it in a potato masher or something, and now it's dirt. No? You got to scoop some dirt.

There's a point at which with adding dirt, it would become dirt, but that's still just mashed up shit at that point. Which is dirt. No. Dude, if you walked outside yesterday or today or tomorrow any day and and there's shit where your dirt is in your front yard you'll notice it'll look different it'll smell different this is old no no let it get old fully dried out a year two years old it's just human dust you know what like if you okay you have enough property to do this go shit somewhere that you think it will become dirt yeah at some point and of course you're gonna want to do this monthly so

you can like see the progression make your lab video yeah yeah be sure to stay on the sidewalk because next to it and my prediction is it's never going to truly become dirt and you eat those mixed mixed greens those mixed vegetables all the time there's going to be like there's going to be peas in there and things uh corn maybe but i i i i i this is the people think this is the dumbest thing in the world but i am really lost is for how poop is different than dirt i know wet poop is little rocks right oh no it's not it's it's it's decomposed poop it's decomposed it's probably a ton of biological matter organic stuff yeah fallen trees fallen leaves what's holding it all together very small rocks right that have been beaten down by the elements. Poop is the glue of the nature world. Ah. The glue that keeps

the world turning. It's nature's glue. That's, yeah. I don't think so. At some point it would become dirt. Because at some point if you just left a compost pile alone it would become dirt, probably. When does poop become dirt?

Night soil? That's like a nice way of calling, like, that's like manure. How long does it take human feces to break down into soil? Wait, wait, let's get some guesses here first before you spoil the answer. Yes.

My guess is going to be, wait, who's going first? Three months. Fuck, no, the fuck, that was. My guess is going to be... Wait, who's going first? Three months. Fuck, no! That was exactly what I was going to say. Oh, I should have went first. You should have went first.

Maybe. I was thinking three to six months, so I'm going to say six months. I'm going to say 89 days. Six months is so long. Fuck. Wait, are we prices right on this? If you're over, do you lose or what?

I was assuming it was going to be faster than we assumed once the elements take hold, so I was going one day under Kyle. There isn't one answer. Why even bother putting it on the internet? This particular person says years later it will still be poop in Wyoming where it's dry and there are long winters. But if it was swampy land in South Carolina, it would be much different.

But it doesn't say like... Who wrote this? What are their credentials? Who is this fly-by-night doctor? Who is this supposed... I assume they're a doctor. This supposed professor of shit. Yeah, well, I guess that makes sense.

The colder it is, the more likely shit will be to remain shit. And the warmer it is, the worse it'll smell. But it will smell bad less long. I badly want to know when poop becomes dirt and how this system works. It's all on a spectrum, right? Faster and hotter than dry it out? How healthy would human shit be if used in manure just as healthy or like is it the smell that would deter us

so I think that so when they use I think the issue when we had like that E. coli outbreak a few years ago and especially in Great Britain was that they were like spraying liquid pig shit onto the crops and then the crops weren't getting washed properly before they went to market i think as long as it's washed thoroughly it wouldn't be an issue but if you ate liquid shit sprayed veg without washing it thoroughly you i think you'd be looking at a whole host of

other issues now you get sick okay that makes sense they just spray pig shit all over it yeah yeah because like the way that like pig farming works on an industrial scale is they have these like slots or like troughs for the shit to like sort of flow into these um what do they call they're like ponds of shit. And then lagoons, I think they call them. And then they like pump those out periodically. And they have this system where they spray it through irrigation all over the

crops. And when that would happen, I can't explain to you the smell. Like, like, like people often spread chicken manure on like crops where i'm from because it's so plentiful and it's really good fertilizer that never bothered me it'd be like oh it stinks a little out huh yeah it smells like chicken shit when they spray liquid pig shit on an industrial

scale and i'm talking about tens of thousands of gallons of pig shit aerated over thousands of acres of crop the low-lying areas like like there's a part where the road would like really go down into a dip and then come back out again like it's settled in there like like a fog of shit and like if your windows were down you didn't know what to do because rolling them up sealed it in with you and leaving them down meant it was just circulating into your face so like like you would just remember like oh yesterday there was pig shit here look turn the ac off and roll the windows up while we pass through this cloud of doom it smells so fucking bad so i it sucks i've never smelled i did a little reading on using human

waste as manure i guess they they did it in old times. One of the problems is that pathogens that impact humans can be in human poop. So you might pass your cholera to the person eating it or something. So that's a problem. There was a second problem too. I guess it's less predictable. Shit, I had a second thing. Oh,

I was getting the second thing I was going to say was this. Our waste treatment plant in this area grows sunflowers with human poop. They just like sprint. I guess the breaking down process creates way too much nitrogen and sunflowers are unique in just how much nitrogen they consume. So that's what they do. There's like these magnificent sunflower seals. People come fields, they come, they take pictures and shit like that it's a pretty good sunflower field was that it basically yeah it's just it's a big field and it just kind of washes over it or something and

then they grow sunflowers there and it handles the excess nitrogen that's another very underrated snack sunflower seeds in the shell though because otherwise you're just eating handfuls of them at a time yeah it's it's uh it's like pistachios the shells are just there to slow you down you do pistachios without shells that's a dangerous snack pistachios are actually pretty fatting and you can eat a surprising amount of that shit if you don't have a fucking shell to slow you down i would not be surprised by the amount i've eaten. This is body by pistachio right here. All right. Body by pistachio.

Yeah, I've had way too many. I ate them during the Woody Craft days, and I gained weight. Cashews are my danger zone nut because they're so good. They're like a rich person's nut. The macadamia nut is the rich person's nut well i don't like it as much it needs to be wrapped into a proper cookie but uh those subway macadamia white chocolate cookies that's the one thing that they have right yeah everything else is nonsense in that store they're so fucking good no my favorite i like peanuts and i know they're legume or whatever get off your fucking high horse peanut nazis but they're delicious like just salted peanuts are one of my favorite snacks ever but honey roasted peanuts like

do you why would you even bother with it i'd rather have a couple handfuls of honey roasted peanuts than like a hershey's bar any day these are all so high in calories they're not on my list right now no like like like it's it's ridiculous like the amount of calories that are in like two handfuls of honey roasted peanuts i bet it's like 500 calories those little like big pack of peanuts davids or whatever pouches those narrow pouches of gas stations like a full one of those i get the heat peanuts the spicy ones yeah a little thing which you're right is like two good size handfuls that's 300 calories i think or like 290 it does fill you up because like a little bit at least because it's peanuts but it also tastes good so

you want more peanuts yeah it's a ton of fat that's the issue that's why it's so high in calories it's but it's that's why it's good i guess they're fucking tasty my cashews are incredible so much fat but just honey roasted peanuts like like whenever i was whenever covid was first becoming a thing and i was like stocking my pantry with like foods that could potentially like keep me alive if like everything we know how bad or sure easy it was gonna be like like you know if enough people get really sick like the utilities fail and if the utilities fail like and they can't get gas in the gas stores then the trucking stops and there's no more food in the stores and everybody's already taking all our goddamn

toilet paper so it was like let's let's stock the pantry and like two of the things one of the things i bought was like two of the really big cans of salted peanuts because i was like yeah that's enough calories to keep me alive for a month and each can of peanuts yeah but then you'd be like day one halfway through fuck like i ate half my peanuts yeah i tried really hard not to touch the safety foods that were in the pantry i ended up giving them all away like my dad was over here and i was like do you want 50 cans of potted meat? He's like, yeah. Yeah, the dogs will love it. It's like, all right, take this shit off my hand. Why not just hold on to it?

That potted meat will last until you're dead, until we're all dead. I'd rather be dead than subsist on potted meat anyway. They could have named it something better than that potted meat. Oh, I'm glad potted meat came up. In the $50 hangout, we did our movie watch. We did Sling Blade. I think we're going to do them every Friday night. Another one coming up tomorrow night.

We all got in a call and watched Sling Blade together. Almost no one had ever seen it before. People were crying out loud. It was beautiful. There was sobbing. I was like, you got to mute yourself if you're going to sob. Everybody fucking loved it um everybody was like yep great recommendation so i think tomorrow night we're all gonna group watch death wish one death wish one then after that you're gonna let them pick the movie maybe i don't know kyle's movie hour every week, whatever he wants to watch.

It's Sling Blade again? I've told you guys about my father's movie voting system before, right? So this is how we chose movies. I got a vote. My brother got a vote. My mother got two votes and my father got five. Alright. That's awesome the illusion of democracy patriarch right there yeah yeah it's the stanley p system i feel like

it fits for the 50 patreon as well you guys all all 24 if you get a vote i get 25 votes i get to pick the first two movies because I'm showing up. After that, I will let them pick a movie. No one complained about Sling Blade. Everyone seemed to really enjoy it. And it is an incredibly good movie. I think they'll feel the same way about Death Wish. It's a laughable...

Is it good or goofy? Death Wish is so bad it's good. It's not poorly made. That's just that. Like this guy's like family keeps getting raped and or murdered, uh, to death. And he keeps becoming a vigilante in each, uh, sequel. And so the first one is like the very first time when Jeff Goldblum, I think like rapes his wife and daughter uh and uh and so like he has

like the mental breakdown he ends up with a gun and then he just walks the streets of new york as a vigilante like putting himself in sticky situations hoping somebody will fuck with him and killing them and after a while he starts having these quips like like these little one liners every time he like kills someone so it's's, it's kind of funny. You killed the Joker. It was exact. Like that scene from the Joker where he kills the guys in the subway is completely. That's what I'm thinking.

Yeah. The Giggler. They killed the Giggler, man. That's from like death wish three or maybe even four. That's one of the later death wishes. They get more ridiculous as it goes. There's a scene in that movie where he has a 1917 belt-fed water-cooled machine gun and he's holding it and it like

these just these were one these punks are like coming after him with like switchblades and bats and like maybe one's got an old-timey like revolver and he just kicks the door in and he's on a balcony and he's just like just sweeping the streets clean of like that make-believe 1980s scum that's a bunch of white guys with mohawks and like people of indeterminate racial origin who are just a little light brown but no blacks at all he's just killing everyone dude... I don't know about the race makeup, but that was the time. You've seen the graffiti on the New York subway system from the 80s before. You've probably seen the Guardian Angels. They were the good guy gang that would defend civilians from the bad guy gangs. Who cleaned the streets?

I think it was before Giuliani, but one of the New York mayors just got hard with them and cleaned shit up. Also, the economy turned around. Yeah, okay. But yeah, you follow gun death rates and stuff. You've seen they peaked in, would you call it the 80s? Late 80s? Early 90s? It was real bad, yeah.

Yeah, like that was the time. They were just, I don't know. The gangs actually intimidated cops. I. Like that. That was the time they were just I don't know. The gangs actually like intimidated cops. I feel like that's maybe drug gangs now do some of the cartels and stuff. But by and large, like in Raleigh, I feel like the cops are the toughest gang here. It's crazy to think about it because he's so fallen from grace now. But Giuliani, I think originally got a lot of credit for cleaning up new york for helping he did the mob especially yeah yeah yeah oh right especially especially yeah yeah what a weird fall from grace like like he was america's mayor like he was so respectable it seemed he seemed like a shoo-in to like run for president or some high office and just ride that into the sunset of being like this respectable head on his shoulders, all about crime,

all about law and order. And, and like, you know, and then like to see him now, like literally like wiping snot on his face and, and like having his hair melt and, uh,

and just look like a, pulling his dick out or whatever he was actually doing with that, with that girl in the Borat movie, you know, he's fixing a micro microphone wire. That's apparently tighter and tight, not around his testicles. I don't know what the fuck he's up to down there in his pants and just looking like he's the buffoon. He's he's Trump's clown. He is. It's, it's absurd. I don't know how that happened.

When did he run for president? I did. Was it 92 or something? I forget, but dude, it was hilarious. So when he ran for president, I was old enough. I was like watching politics at the time and he would just talk about nine 11 every time, every question you asked him, he'd mentioned nine 11, constantly nine 11, everything. And one of his opponents made fun of him and they said that

the way that Giuliani speaks is every sentence has a noun, a verb, and 9-11. And shortly after that, they asked him what his tax plan was. He's like, it should be a flat tax. And they're like, what should your tax rate be? He's like, I don't know, maybe 9-11%.

I was like, are you fucking kidding me? 9% flat tax. He was the frontrunner in 2008. Okay. Yeah. Up until McCain, I guess. You got to be careful with those primaries because especially the big ones, everybody is the frontrunner at some point, right?

Yeah, he raised the most money. He was in the lead for a full calendar year. Damn. ones everybody is the front runner at some point right yeah he uh he raised the most money he was in the lead for a full calendar year um yeah everybody's like time magazine named him as the person of the year for 2001 branding him the mayor of the world yep that's a bit and america's mayor and everything too like that was him yeah. Yeah, it was interesting. So when 9-11 first happened, I know a lot of you were young or not born listening. There was kind of a void. There was this big thing and it impacted the nation in a way that nothing has since.

Sports got canceled. Everyone was depressed or sad or scared. I'm never scared by politics. Every time they talk about the politics of fear, this or that, and I'm like, oh, this is really all sport to me. Nothing scares me about what's happening. 9-11 kind of did. Like I, I actually, I was at work. I called Jackie. I was like, okay, there's a nuclear power plant to our South. The plan is to say, right. You know, if, if they attack that nuclear power plant if they attack that i'm north of you grabbing the better car pick me up we'll keep going north we'll get away from it

like it was we thought that we were a risk it seems crazy now but um everybody's going north to new york they won't strike flights every person was like where's the closest airport the closest military base the closest nuclear power plant like everybody everyone thought they were a target next like they all thought that they were living next to some world trade center like attraction and um shit i was going to the real impact the you're going north to meet up with jackie yeah yeah yeah shit and Oh, oh. And there was a leadership void, right?

Like Cheney was never really an out public type leader. Like he wouldn't get on the mic and talk very much. Bush went like three days without saying anything. We were just like, what? What now? Like where are we? And then Giuliani is there with a bullhorn standing on top of the rebel. Saying like, it's okay, we'll get

him back, don't be scared and he filled that leadership void that the whole nation needed and it served him really well yep, absolutely did and when they got the Florida primary he was like third and endorsed McCain the next day

okay is mayor of New York the highest he ever got, mayor? When they got the Florida primary, he was like third and endorsed McCain the next day. Okay. Is mayor of New York the highest he ever got, mayor? Did he do anything other than that? I think so. I don't think so. I think mayor of New York is bigger than some federal representative. That's a big... It's hard to stack rank it, right?

Is mayor of New York bigger than senator of Wyoming? Absolutely, it is. Well, senator, maybe not. But like representative of Wyoming? Yeah, maybe, yeah yeah well senator or senator you're a senator if you're representative you might be one of like 435 or whatever or five whatever but like but yeah like the mayor of new york is a that's a tall order yeah i would take that job over a lot of other jobs if you as far as politicians go because like i like the mayor of New York is able to really live it up. He's the mayor of a really

big, powerful, rich city. A lot comes along with that, I'm sure. I want to be a mayor of some shitty city where they have so many problems they won't even notice how much I'm looting the coffers. I'll be the mayor of New Orleans. I want to be

a Mormon senator from Utah. Your re-election is guaranteed. You can do anything. Because there's going to be another Mormon. Unless they catch you drinking some strong drink or something. It never happens that way. These Mormon senators from Utah, they just keep serving until they don't want to anymore.

Mitt Romney, he looks so much younger than he actually is. Maybe Mormons have something. Is it just the hair dye? I don't know. Maybe there's more to it than that. He does look pretty good. His posture's good. He's fit.

He's not fat. Maybe I'm just comparing him to the rest of the absolute ghouls. Where it's like, wow, he... He looks better than McCain these days. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. By a long shot. mcconnell looks next because dead yeah yeah because mitch mcconnell looks a little better he looked terrible with

that bruising all over his face and oh yeah that was weird he's looked awful for years not even like sick old man just kind of like ugly old man i wonder if he'll retire maybe lose it yeah oh he did lose yeah i would think he would retire do you hear about diane feinstein i saw some funny thing where it's like this was a long time ago this came out it was like some staffer said like uh you know she's 87 now and all the time she goes to meetings and she has no idea what just happened in the meeting she was in and she already fired paperwork filed paperwork her team did on her behalf and she's going to run again for another six-year term at the age of 91 in four years so it's like really you're going to be a 97 year old potentially like no that's one of the cool things like john

ossoff won from georgia obviously the i don't know if we ever really talked about it a lot but the dems both won um and uh john ossoff's youngest senator i think in the land i think he's yeah i don't yeah not youngest ever but uh youngest current senator serving uh you know he's on he's less than 40 i don't know how old he is yeah i don't think his seats a um a democratic senator from georgia probably doesn't have the like automatic re-elect that so many of them have oh yeah definitely not these guys were hard these are hard fought seats both of these yeah but um yeah we'll see kyle's our resident social justice warrior blue state person yeah yeah you red state fucking goons over there

uh you can't figure out what who you're gonna kill next for going to the wrong bathroom in north carolina and taylor's taylor's state is just the embarrassment of the midwest let's be honest oh come on we have all the best gun laws they hardly exist what was it your senator your uh senator or whatever did your representative the the real pro-gun one didn't he do something awful oh no no i think you're thinking like a few years ago are the governor of missouri like the brand new elected governor of missouri it was like eric gritens his name is and or was i don't know what the fuck he's doing now. But he resigned because someone came forward and was like, hey, I think it was like sexual blackmail or something.

Like he took a bunch of pictures of me naked when we were fooling around and he was cheating on his wife. And I don't remember all the details. Maybe I'm getting some stuff wrong. But I do remember stuff about like scantily clad and nude sex photos. And then he totally resigned. He's gone now. Destiny, I bet you're up to speed on this there maybe swalwell did he have sex with a chinese spy or something do you know what i'm

talking about i feel like i would have heard this what felony invasion of privacy eric swalwell fucked a Chinese spy? I think so. Eric Swalwell. Is her name Fang Fang? Yeah, a Chinese national named Fang Fang or Christine Fang targeted up-and-coming local politicians in the Bay Area and across the country with the intention to make it big on the national stage. Are you saying that she fucked her way into this or whatever? I mean, I saw it on Facebook.

I don't know what proof you need a chinese agent and well who else was she fucking is there a list here oh speaking of your facebook scum has been telling me that your facebook is very blue these days oh dude all the republicans have gone silent like like there There is a group of Republicans that just fucking invaded, ripped me apart, et cetera. Ever since the Capitol invasion, they have no more to say. They're just gone. They've gone radio silent. Well, they might have pending federal charges against them.

That may be under a lawyer's recommendation based on your Facebook. It's possible, but I think the more likely scenario is they don't have a winning hand. charges against them that may be under a lawyer's recommendation based on your facebook it's possible but i think the more likely scenario is they don't have a winning hand like they just sort of folded for a while and they'll wait for democrats to be like pro-abortion or something and trump is still super popular you can't really speak out against him so they but they don't really want to take a side now because everybody's trying to prepare for a post-trump world and you don't want to like have everybody hate you before that happens so they're just waiting for him to be gone the trump train would be in full effect

because you know they're all on the no-fly list what's trump's next move that's that's that's something i wanted to cover wanted to cover tonight like i think his next move is write a book big book tour lots of rallies fucking keep it rolling make a you know try to cash in i think maybe he also starts a media company of some time of some kind and like the those two things are very incestuous one another his book tour his rallies his media company his media company covers his book tour His book tour talks about his media company and, and he rolls that into being quite successful. I'm not, I'm, I'm halfway on board that the media company thing in particular, I think it's really complicated to start a media company, to get the licensing, to get that thing off. It's an, it's a complex venture to run, more so than the real estate he's done before, which was smaller, I guess, than it seems.

So what would be a better move for him is to just be well-paid to appear on someone else's media venture, right? He could be a regular contributor to Fox or Newsmax or One America News or something like that. Go on there, pimp his book, pimp his fundraising activities, spout his opinions and see how it goes. I think the bloom will come off, the guild will come off the rose, something like that. I think he's not going to look as good as an ex-president. I don't think he'll have the same appeal.

I might be wrong. I could be wrong. Maybe I just never saw his appeal like some people did. But I just think that without the podium in the White House behind him, he's going to seem like a regular, like a low information voter who's just too prominent. I agree with the fact that he's not going to do anything. But I disagree with the rationale, actually, because even before Trump didn't have the podium, right, Trump was the start of that birther movement. A lot of people forget that. But like that was him. And that was before he was in any elected position now he was

still probably riding off the popularity of the um apprentice of the yeah of like being the apprentice and everything um so yeah i i think that he's i agree he's probably not going to do much but i don't think it's because it's difficult and all that shit um he's probably just not going to do much because i think it's too much effort. I think he's just tired of it. Like shit is crazy, I think. But I think he likes making money and he'll find a way to cash in on his popularity. The book, I think, is money. I think he's definitely going to have a book ghost written for him.

And then after that, I think he really enjoys the rallies, but they might get embarrassing fast. You know, when he starts doing rallies for practically no reason and 1 000 people come it's gonna feel like a like that oklahoma event or whatever it was ah you just start charging for them and then the the smaller group is more valuable right like if you have a thousand dollar a plate dinner to benefit the trump foundation and uh you know get a get a couple hundred people in there and just do a couple of those a year and i think he's gonna i think the rallies will still be big people fucking love that guy they think of him as like

an entertainer slash stand-up comedian like people really like him and look i've seen it in person he's entertaining like when you're there, it's fun. But the rally... If he's allowed to use media again, then yeah, he would have huge rallies. But if he can't promote what he's doing on Twitter, YouTube, Google, whatever,

they can kind of hamstring him there. Yeah, deplatforming really works. I saw a bank shutting down a couple of his accounts with millions of dollars in it. Was it a bank or was it Stripe? It wasn't Stripe. Stripe said they weren't going to handle payments anymore, I think,

and then the Deutsche Bank or whatever said they were going to do business. You're right. All it would take is whatever payment processor he was using to just say no. Very if. That's what I'm saying, is that this is why if the powers that be in this country decide that they no longer want him to be able to have rallies and do that they can just de-person him like they have online and like how's he going to get his message out like it just won't get out i i don't know how hard it would be to take a nut like

did paypal drop him like there's always another stripe you know paypal will drop him his hosting service will drop him cloud Cloudflare would drop him. All it takes is a couple of people. A couple of key ones. Deplatforming works. Milo got deplatformed. I think a lot of people think maybe they're bigger than the platform they are, that they're bigger than the platform that they're on,

or I'm on so many platforms that if anyone drops, I'm okay. But then they lose two of them or so. Milo without Twitter is a past tense thing. Alex Jones, he's not gone gone, but he's not nearly part of the conscious that he was when he was on YouTube and all the bigger ones. Glenn Beck, he was on Fox News and he was like the leader of the Republican Party in some ways.

He started the Tea Party moment with the hats. He was Trump before Trump. Now where's Glenn Beck? Just a radio show I never hear of. He's the guy with the Cheetos on his face. It's just weird. Deplatforming has a huge impact. And he's been deplatformed.

So we'll see where that goes. He's going to struggle. And Snapchat deplatformed. So Twitter dropped him. I think Facebook dropped him. Then I'm not sure about YouTube, but Snapchat dropped him. And I'm like, did he even go on Snapchat yet? Has he been on?

They dropped. They're like, no, you can't come here. They closed the door before he could get in. Spotify. At some point, it was like companies virtue signaling to each other. Yeah, I saw the Spotify one. I'm like. With Joe Rogan and Joe, I was nervous.

Jones was on the episode, right? I think they were saying they didn't want to host it or something. I don't know about that. Spotify banned Trump. And it's like, what the fuck? Spotify, the music company? They had podcasts too. Yeah.

No, he's not going to start a podcast podcast he likes waving his arms and being on tv that's his um format is working a crowd that's where trump excels if you read his speeches they're not good if you uh really they're there his format is working the crowd that people love him that that's where he excels not on tv uh oh my bell delphine rough fuck in the woods only fans set yeah she got a little bit of backlash because they felt like her makeup made her look like a 13 year old girl who was being kidnapped and raped in the woods and fortunately for me it does and they uh but but she was like no that's i'm wearing some like 1950s era clothes that's just how i look and yeah it's about me getting kidnapped and raped in the woods so deal with it and branching out good one yeah yeah i mean some of these pictures look safe for work yet at the same time don't look safe there's there's some full uh vagina in there and some

penis as well so i wouldn't i wouldn't share too much there plus don't share anything actually because this is like leaked stuff on the website this is her copywritten content that we are enjoying here that saves it yeah all right so i but like here's one for example where her actress i believe she's in trouble her skirts pulled down to her knees and she's looking at the camera and everything she's just fully wearing this dress like an innocent person would yeah so you guys could see her makeup and stuff but like kyle said it's copyright we can't share yeah you could probably go to her twitter and and show what she showed there because she showed some like safe for work slash not safe for work stuff there so that's free to share don't

scroll her twitter though don't scroll her twitter uh not anymore but yeah yeah um just doing the lord's work over here on the bell delphine only fans some of these cannot be shown most of them cannot yeah yeah she seems pretty litigious about getting rid of that stuff too so smart not throwing it around yeah smart Smart. Here, I can show you this. Not you guys. You guys know what to look for. Just double checking a little more. Is this against YouTube's terms of service? Is this a bad picture to show?

It might be. Like that. That looks fine to me. Wait, I wouldn't risk it. I think she is one of the more like aggressive that's on her twitter this is her twitter so it's not like even so even on her twitter it's still thinking that her copyright you're rehosting the material is infringing you're probably right well anyway well fair enough she does look like uh she looks really young she looks super young and i think in some she's kind of going for it she's sort of looking like an anime character who also looks young but um but she's really 4 000 years old so it's fine it's fine yeah so it's not weird at all you're not a weirdo

looking at a cartoon drawing of a vampire that's 3,000. You have to make up fantasy worlds where you're not a pedophile. And I'm a dwarf noble who can't be prosecuted for child porn. That's my magical power. Oh, and she's also super

strong, so if she wanted to make this stop, she could. But as a dwarf noble, I'm also super strong so if she wanted to she wanted to make this stop she could well i'm also very strong like uh you guys want to wrap yeah it was very fun destiny thank you for coming on yeah thanks for having me it's always a lot of fun all right no outros nope we're good all right pka 526