Painkiller Already - PKA 657 W/ Jon From Fishtank: Being Bullied By Sam Hyde, Joining The French Foreign Legion, Jake Paul Will Beat Diaz

Episode Date: July 22, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pka 657 with our guest top jay from fish tank taylor this episode of pka brought to you by bird dogs pharaoh distribution.com pharaoh dispo.com and lock and load the premium premium ejaculation supplement we'll talk more about later john from fish tank a lot of lore surrounding you thank you for taking time to join us today no no Thank you for having me on. It's a pleasure. Yeah, you've been doing, I saw you did the Dick Masterson show. Another friend of the show, Dick Masterson.
Starting point is 00:00:31 How'd you like him? He's a nice guy, isn't he? Yeah, no, I liked him a lot. He was a pretty cool guy. I liked a lot of his beliefs and views on things. Yeah, yeah. He has some Andrew Tate adjacent views as well.
Starting point is 00:00:44 And I learned on fish tank early on that you're the top g you are all about andrew tate i'm a total novice to the tate brothers what is it about them that attracts you so much that you like so much uh yeah no my favorite thing about the tate brothers is their business uh the how they strike on business and their their vision on it and how they see it and how they just get stuff done like you can see a lot of people out here that may talk about business but they're not as focused as them with a clear driven drive that's the biggest thing i like about them okay so you don't you're not thrown off by the Romanian prison bit at all. You're like, don't care.
Starting point is 00:01:30 What person in a public figure has to have something like that? If you look at almost all the people in the government, there's things about Trump, there's things about Biden. I would argue most people in the public eye are not imprisoned in romania charged with rape well yeah no i agree to that okay they should be he means that everybody's got skeletons in their closet his just happens to be allegedly keeping women's passports in a safe you got all right now let me just make this point allegedly we got to keep those passports safe someone like this gentleman could come along tear him up yeah yeah that's true
Starting point is 00:02:11 that was the absolute funniest part of fish tank that had me cracking up was sam's genuine and sincere fury with you when you decided you were going to tear up Letty's passport. And Sam had a realization of like, this guy's not fucking around. He's he's going to destroy her passport and trap her in the United States. Were you were you LARPing a little bit? Were you joking or were you really going to do it? I don't know if you get to be able to heal, but I actually got permission from Sam before I even grabbed the passport. Oh, OK. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:02:46 I asked him, can I break anything of Letty's, no matter what it is? And he gave me a yes. But first I had to shake Ben's hand and then I was free to break anything of Letty's.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Okay, so there were rules of sorts. You just had had to shake the producer's hand and then you could destroy anything that sounds to me like you were in the clear like he gave you the go-ahead to destroy anything she's lucky you didn't punch her in the face so going for the passport seemed fair to me but you could have chosen her nose but once you had the passport everyone was clearly screaming for you to stop and not do it, but you persisted. You sort of ran away with it. You were like, but you said, but you said. Yeah, he's a top G.
Starting point is 00:03:30 He's not going to stop. He's not going to give up. You don't take no for an answer. If I really wanted to rip it, I had a solid seven seconds of it in my hand. It takes two seconds to rip it. If even. They got lucky.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I decided not to. They did. Yeah. I don't think Sam was acting when he threw those drawers and everything afterward. Really, though, the passport thing wasn't even really that bad. Like the physical assaulting from Airsoft Fatty, all the spits and all that i don't think you ever hit anybody spit on anybody i think you you kept your hands to yourself didn't you other than sam during sparring yeah no i didn't physically haunt anyone yeah that's good that's
Starting point is 00:04:18 likely to bring you back is sam also lucky that you decided to back off a little bit uh for the passport? Yeah, during the sparring and stuff. Well, I don't think I could have beat up Sam. Let's just be real. I'm unexperienced. And he was teaching me, and he's three times bigger than me. I don't know if you don't try.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Woody's talked about you before, not knowing it was you, because you were the guy holding those pads when Sam Hyde was kicking the absolute fuck out of you. And whenever we talk about Fishtank previously, like months back, Woody would be like, I don't know, I kind of feel bad for some of these guys. What about that one little fella that they were kicking the shit out of?
Starting point is 00:05:01 So now you can get his perspective. Did you feel bullied? Yeah. Did you feel bullied? Yeah. Did I feel bullied? Yeah, when you were holding the pads. Because he was going pretty hard given the size difference. You know, I don't know if he did it on purpose or not. I can count less either way.
Starting point is 00:05:20 But you didn't feel bullied? I guess not, no i guess not objection leading witness i've always been in the perspective it wasn't bullying it was training you practice how you play and yeah could i could i step in for the prosecution and just completely flip the script here and point out that if that is bullying then bully then then then Woody here serial bullied every member of the Call of Duty community that he could lay hands on over the years. I have seen him choke out minorities in hotels across the greater United States. Only minorities, now that I'm thinking about it. He pounced on Bashir outside those elevators one time.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And this young black man from Canada, okay just just down here to have a good time woody's choking the life out of him some of these kids didn't know how to tap no that was pretty fucked so yeah that would qualify as bullying then woody lifted white boys so far off the ground and his little legs were kicking in in my defense i was bullying white boy yes you were bullying everybody That's my favorite of all times when you lured White Boy into a bullying. White Boy had made some
Starting point is 00:06:32 videos lying about me, talking some trash and it hurt me. It hurt my feelings. It hurt my standing. This is way long ago. It might be 10, 11 years ago. And this guy, White Boy was like a peer of mine in the youtube call of duty community and we had an online beef but everything he said was lies
Starting point is 00:06:54 and i really didn't like his way of doing the beef and i think he won right he won but it's easy to win when you just make up your argument and that's that. Anyway, as part of our sort of burying the hatchet, I guess there was wrestling or grappling involved. And I'm a lot bigger than white boy. I just am with multiple years of combat experience as well. And I'm better trained than white boy. So during the grappling, I got him in a guillotine, but I was able to hold him by his his head in his neck and lift his feet off the ground yeah and uh that made me feel better about the situation yeah that is so much more ruthless than sam kicking the pads were you there listening part were you there for that taylor were you in that room oh that's awesome i'm so glad you were in
Starting point is 00:07:42 that room yeah that was i couldn't remember for the life of me who else was in that room oh that's awesome i'm so glad you were in that room yeah that was i couldn't remember for the life of me who else was in that room yeah i thought what he wrestled me on that trip and like what he has beaten everyone i know up in the youtube community including me he didn't beat me up but that was because what he chose not to i was in the position but i wanted to talk about fish tank more there was one guy on there from early on simmons who he's the gentleman kyle and woody who was discovered to have written a very very spicy book about being a camp counselor and how to hook up with campers and all that and before that was all revealed john you and simmons seemed to be like getting along like he was successfully coming off as a really weird guy but kind of you know just harmless until that got revealed was that
Starting point is 00:08:30 upsetting or annoying or do you feel tricked or anything when it came out that he was a real ghoul and you'd kind of buddied up to him well to be fair I was kind of using him as a bitch essentially i don't know if you guys noticed anything i wanted done i had him do it and he would start to ask permission before he went to go do something so i was kind of using him same thing with a couple other people there at the first couple of weeks um like i thought it was going to be like big brother and you know big brother there's a lot of manipulation tactics you have to use so i saw him as a pawn to win the game was the entirety of fish tank you know you said you thought it was going to be like big brother were you did you know who sam hyde million dollar extreme who they were or did you go in like i can't wait to be a
Starting point is 00:09:25 part of jason gold striker's big game i went in there blind okay so you did i didn't know i didn't know who he was beforehand i saw one youtube video about two months prior of him talking about andrew tate and that's the only thing i've ever seen about him and then when he walked in the room i was like oh that's that guy from that one video yeah he's dressed up in a giant suit kicking me was there an advertisement looking for actors people craigslist i was so on craigs because i do modeling so i respond to lots of like acting or modeling gigs on craigslist and And then I just see whoever bites and they, they send me a message. So I sent them a video of me talking about myself and then they wanted another video and I forgot to send them that second video they wanted.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And then I forgot about them all together. The month later they asked me if I wanted an interview. And I said, yeah, but who are you guys again? And then they told me, and we had the interview the next day. So good you said, yeah, who are you? That's very Sigma male behavior. Yeah, I'll do it. Who are you again?
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's hilarious. So you just went in line. No idea. Craigslist feels like... I didn't know Craigslist was still a thing. I remember a long time ago, it used to be where you could go for a skeezy hookup, and then they took all the adult stuff off there,
Starting point is 00:10:53 and all the hookers left, and all the dirty people left. I didn't know it was still a thing. I didn't know it kept going. Now you use it to find people for reality shows. I think it's going decently in Oregon. I know in some other states, Craigslist isn't really a thing.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I feel like Facebook Marketplace killed it, but it's not totally dead. It did. It's better. You talked about modeling. How did you get into that? And is it just like hard scoping Craigslist you're looking for? Or at this point, do you have people reaching out to you? How'd you get into it? So when I first started doing it, I was a wildland firefighter at the time and i was just
Starting point is 00:11:29 we were sitting around that day so i'll put up my phone but on craigslist and then it's like oh i could get paid for someone to take pictures of me yeah let's do that no i wasn't naked i was it was like for a bank it was for one of the local credit unions here they wanted a picture of me in their planford or the paperware or something like that that's a pretty good gig that's like a respectable gig sometimes when you see people portrayed as like struggling artists they end up i don't know in some weird japanese soap commercial like scrubbing themselves with panda bears or something doing but but just, we want you on this pamphlet in the bank. That's respectable.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You can immediately show that to your grandma. We need you to be the bad credit score guy. You can work up to the good credit score guy. How would you like to be a white home intruder?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Put the fucking ski mask on you and break into a house in the middle of the day. Yeah. Is the modeling going better since Fishtank? I imagine that kind of attention has probably helped out, right? Oh, yeah. Everything has gotten 10 times better. Nice. For example, my job, I've recently signed up a couple of companies to partner with,
Starting point is 00:12:46 and they've been sending me multiple clients a day now, which they found me through Fish Tank. Your job is modeling, we're talking about. Obviously, modeling. I'm about to get picked up by a modeling agency. And there's this other modeling academy that wants to hire me as a coach, which I don't know how legitimate that is but i guess i would see be like i would think they would look into me and know i've only done modeling for a few years
Starting point is 00:13:13 so i don't know why they would watch me as a coach let me ask you due diligence when you when you correspond with these people from craigslist and other other places um do you are you always um you always write to them the same way that you wrote to uh our guy chis because he sent me the email that that uh he had with you your correspondence and it is wordy you sent him uh one two three four five six seven eight i'm gonna call that nine paragraphs and it is it is some some cool stuff i i had a blast reading through this do you do you write to everybody like this no not everybody that was only for you guys actually for the modeling gigs it's usually a lot shorter and straight to the point and all the facts and details they need to know.
Starting point is 00:14:06 What do they usually ask for a modeling gig? Is it requirements like height and weight? Yeah, height and weight, age, where you're located, what's your social media accounts. They usually want a portfolio. What have you done? accounts they usually want a portfolio what have you done you know just a whole bunch writing stuff information about like your name phone number yeah email you mentioned uh before modeling you were a firefighter a wildlands firefighter that's really cool how how long did you do that and do you have any crazy stories or did you get to go try that out
Starting point is 00:14:41 like actually fight fires or never got yeah so i did about three to four years um you okay carl yeah he's okay he's just getting by no just trick or by trick so yeah i did it for about three to four years um i have this one good story you guys probably like when i caught my ass on file oh shit yeah so so i was in northern california on the july complex 2020 and we were we were putting i was putting out this juniper tree um it's like a 500 year old juniper tree and i was putting out because i was assigned on the engine engine 35 and I was putting it out with the hose with 350 pounds of psi at the time so put it out and then I put out the next tree came back
Starting point is 00:15:33 because it fell back up as I was putting up because I was on an incline on the hill and it was all sand and I guess my white foot was standing on an L pocket. So my foot went like a foot or two in the ground because the sand just caved in on me. And the hose, while I was using it, pushed me down on the ground. And the sand was all wet and hot as fuck. So steam ended up going through my pants and giving me a second degree burn on my ass. I was only on the ground for like a second. I jumped off so fast. Your second it blistered so fast it blistered up and everything oh yeah and that's not even the worst part the worst part is
Starting point is 00:16:13 for the next week i had like 30 people look at my ass you know from doctors to nurses you know every person you could think of. Did it scar or is your asshole back to normal now? There's a small scar about like this big right now. That's small to you? That's a pretty big scar. I think your big scar is like this size of a face. Seems like it's kind of a small scar.
Starting point is 00:16:38 In the same way Alaska is a small part of the US. That's hilarious. The small scar, size of your fist yeah well that it just makes you look tough and that's actually a good scar story of i was fighting and i burned myself on the steam yeah viciously that's cool do you think you'll ever go back do it again i am actually getting certified uh here in a couple weeks because i do kind of want to go on another fall so i mean just for fun at the end of the season um but it wouldn't be permanent though just because the government they never paid for the medical bills they fucked me over on that
Starting point is 00:17:16 really pay well what is the pay for wildland firefighter i do i Dude, when I was doing it, it was $13 an hour. It was shit. Yeah, if you told me it was $50 and that there's an emergency and they open up the coffers to pay, I'd have bought it. If you told me it was minimum wage, I'd have bought that too. I had no idea. Yeah. You work a hose mostly? Because hose sounds doable. I feel like, hypothetically, if called to it, I could work a hose.
Starting point is 00:17:47 If you ask me to put out a fire with a shovel, 18 minutes in, I'm going to ask you for a break. I'm done. That's quite the workout. We do a whole bunch of different things. You know, sometimes you have to carry a Mach 3 pump into the fall beforehand. This is a big hose, a Mach 3 pump? No, that's a pump.
Starting point is 00:18:07 So it's a pump. You put it into like a river or like a stream, and then we connect the hose to it to make a hose lay throughout the whole fall so people could put it out. And the Mach 3 pump is a medium-sized pump. It's about 40 to 60 pounds. So you usually have to carry that out, and then you usually have to carry that out and then you usually have to carry your package package
Starting point is 00:18:26 usually roughly 45 to like 55 pounds for the average person so if you have the pack and then the mark three pump you know it's basically 100 pounds right there that's a lot to haul i mean how far are you going with it well one week i had to do that five times and i was hiking like five miles up a mountain with those and there's multiple times and sometimes in the same day a pump would break and then i would have to hike it back out and get a new one and hike it back in what are you wearing 13 an hour what are you wearing with this are you in like heavy hot firefighting gear or you're not expecting to be that close to flames when you do this so you're wearing a flame resistant pants um like i have one pair that's one of the pairs i own is 500 dollars like you know it's not the
Starting point is 00:19:20 it's not like structural firefighter clothing. It's kind of more looks like, I guess, kind of like army or military. Wait, you had to buy your own fire resistant pants? No, no, no, no. The one I personally owned, my boss had it from years ago. He gave it to me because he got too fat. That happens. Yeah, small miracles for you. No, they do provide all the gear you need, though.
Starting point is 00:19:49 But that was just a personal pill he gave to me. Okay. So it seems like you've had quite a number of careers. You're in your mid-20s, I'm assuming, right? Yeah, 25. Okay. Do you have any other dreams or aspirations of a job you would love to do? Like if you had your opportunity.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Something I was going to do before COVID hit. I was actually going to join the Army. I know the Army, the pay is all shit. Everyone's dream job. Don't forget, you don't have to pay. I hope you make it. The reason why I want to do something like that, though, is for the
Starting point is 00:20:33 brotherhood and for the skill set of learning how to shoot a gun properly and how to just fight, let alone travel a little bit that sounds like fun travel while fighting people um yeah that is the french foreign legion is way more your style though lately i know so i've been thinking about them lately too you've been thinking about joining
Starting point is 00:20:57 the french foreign legion that's fantastic yeah i could say they're i think they're pretty intense like they're known for being intense taylor i'm with you i'm like the army is a very survivable job especially right now we're not involved in any major conflicts in the next four years we probably will be because it's america well exactly that's why you join now it should be hard the wings when it happens watch they're gonna try to recruit everyone unless you know like so you're going to get in early so you're you're out of the the grunt zone by the time it happens why why the not outside of the grunt zone but i have more experience at that point so that's to be on the ground fighting why why the army though instead of like marines or something like that so yeah so i might say the thing with the Marines, like I probably could do them, but I just don't know if I want to do that.
Starting point is 00:21:50 What's your ideal army role? Is it like paratrooper, tank, something else like a maintenance job of some sort? I feel like either paratrooper or just like a straight up soldier, like the infantry. Right, right. But at the same time, I same time they would love to hear that you go to the recruiter and start talking like this he's gonna be patting you on the back buddy yeah he's gonna get that job yeah they're gonna drive a truck for the next four years i feel like another good one would be is the natural guard and the reason why i say that
Starting point is 00:22:23 they actually do get a lot more training than every other branch because they have a lot more free time training on guns so if you want to get really good at shooting guns the natural guard is the way to go but they have a lot more free time they always win the competitions they get in really is national guard like is that a full-time job or is that like a – I've never known that. Some people there are full-time job. That depends on what you want it to be. There's some contracts you could do where it's like a part-time job.
Starting point is 00:22:51 You do X amount a month. Or you could do all the assignments that the Army goes to. And there's reserves, right? There's like a couple – you can be in the reserves and you do that like i don't think you do anything i think you show up every few months and like do some basic shit to like kind of check in and yes sir ready to report if shit hits the fan kind of thing but essentially yeah man right now um the thing to do if i was 25 i would probably fucking do it i would i'd be in ukraine doing something silly either drone up either operating a drone or drone or maybe something scarier. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Did you guys see that video of that Washington dude who got shot and then a bomb dropped on him? He just rolled over on his back and he looked into his shoulder. There's just a giant gaping hole. I actually know what you're talking about. I know the exact one he's talking about
Starting point is 00:23:45 with the giant gaping hole in the back of his right shoulder when he rolls over. Yeah. They hit him with something big. Yeah. Yeah, that dude's insane. How did his body not blow up first off? That's just not how explosives
Starting point is 00:24:01 work. It's got to be a big baboom to blow him into smithereens. They're just dropping those grenades right on top of them blowing chunks out of them is a grenade strong enough that like if it was like surgically like saw style implanted in someone's stomach and then it blew up from in there it wouldn't like like with their body like would they be in half or would it would just explode out and they'd just be like all shredded up probably so i'll say this because that's like a made-up hypothetical i don't know much about yeah but lots of guys have thrown themselves on top of grenades and survived in world war ii it happened a lot they would throw their chest and their belly on top of it and get severe shrapnel wounds or their ass um i think grandpa simpson did that
Starting point is 00:24:45 um i think you i think yeah i think i think he did that but so i think um but if there was a grenade surgically put inside of somebody's body i think it'd blow a big hole out of them when it but i don't think it'd blow them to smithereens at all um because when those people go off and there's no way that those were fully functional grenades. There had to be something wrong with them. They didn't blow up all the way or they didn't shoot all the shrapnel or something. There's no way you can jump on top of a grenade that works 100% perfectly. What if you put your helmet on it? Just like Abe Simpson.
Starting point is 00:25:15 That's what Grandpa Simpson did. Oh, they did it on. Yeah. Captain America did it, I think. I'm not sure. Captain America stole that from Abe Simpson. Captain America, like when the field right like position around the grenade no there's uh there's multiple cases in world war ii i know for sure of guys
Starting point is 00:25:32 throwing themselves on top of grenades and uh and surviving it and then plenty of people dying you know as well what's the safest job if you're like an elite soldier i always thought like driving a fucking truck but like the sniper actually seems unbelievably dangerous because you're all by yourself out there like with one other dude right i think there's um some positions on big navy ships where people tend to survive a lot especially now yeah because our navy's superiority is so lopsided. Did you disagree? You rolled your eyes. No, I was just thinking of like all, first of all, in our military,
Starting point is 00:26:09 the survivability rate is insane. Half of our military deaths are always contractors. If you go back to Iraq and Afghanistan, they'd be like, oh, we lost 7,000 people. That's not that bad. And 7,500 more mercenaries that we were paying to that they don't talk about. But it seems like if you're just
Starting point is 00:26:25 a grunt in the army driving a truck your odds are pretty fucking good so if you put yourself now you're i don't know seaman first class mcgovern's who turns a wrench on some navy ship are you just behind a computer somewhere on the navy ship and monitor the fucking cooling system or something you know it's one of those ubiquitous jobs i think there's 5 000 men on an aircraft carrier well shit like that like yeah but i mean like of combat people yeah i'm glad you said that zach has some lists on the side like there's admin financial management hr right that's wrong my um my brother-in-law was in the air force i mentioned him briefly his job was to look at pictures that satellites took carefully and circle things that he thought other people would be interested in.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Like, hey, look, this truck moved a little bit. Pass that up the chain and see what they make of it. That is a high survivability job. He's not getting hurt at all. He works in air conditioning. If you circle the wrong truck and they kill you, I doubt it. It's not gonna happen but like if you're out there in the mix like the grunts have to die or like the the grunt equivalent of the seals or
Starting point is 00:27:33 the marines or whatever the front man who's like really fighting bursting into like there's no way that like even a sniper like that's got to be way safer than that guy is there anything more dangerous than the guy going in first the door seems extremely dangerous the first guy through the door my buddy that's what he did in fb understand tough as shit did he hit the door or was he first through it because those are different guys he was first through with the shotgun yeah see that's the worst that's gotta be the worst there's no way that that's not the highest he said it was the most exciting thing he's ever done. I bet.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You know what's tough? I'm sorry, Kyle. Did you want to go to that guy? Is he ruined for normal life now? Like I am a little bit. I have made good money not working very hard. Am I still capable of working like I used to? I'm not even sure.
Starting point is 00:28:27 This guy has to readjust to life where a fucking, I don't know, rollercoaster at six flags is supposed to be considered exciting. It's not exciting to this guy. there's no way it's exciting for like there. I don't, I think I've told this on the show or a hundred times. Yeah. Many years ago,
Starting point is 00:28:39 I said this in the show. Like, so he dipped out of college because he got nervous that Afghanistan was going to be done before college. And so he left because he wanted to go fight in Afghanistan. And he got there and everything. And it was maybe I was a junior in college. This is like 2011 or whatever. And he called me.
Starting point is 00:29:00 It was like three in the morning my time in Missouri. And I got a call from him. And I'm like, what the fuck? I literally know he's one of my best friends I'm like I know he's in Afghanistan right now and I answer the phone and I'm like hello he's like kind of scratches like Taylor I'm like what like you're and he's like yeah dude I just got in my first firefight I was shooting I saw bullets coming at me whizzizzing past me, running around, gunfire. It was the most wild thing I've ever experienced. And I realized I absolutely can't call my mom.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I absolutely can't call my dad and tell them about this. And the only person, like friend of mine's phone number I had memorized was yours. And I just got to talk to someone about this, man. It was fucking wild. And I'm like, I'm glad you're okay're okay man like is when are you coming home like because he's like leaning into it like it was insane like i the rush like i couldn't stop moving around afterward and i'm like so you like saw bullets coming at you and he's like yes and i'm like but not close and he's like no close it's like oh my god dude like and like to him he was so amped up the adrenaline was pumping
Starting point is 00:30:13 but to me i was just like fuck i don't want one of my best friends to die in afghanistan because he's so amped up but are you and now like that he'll talk about like how crazy it was all the experiences but then like when i see him with like another Marine, you know, the camaraderie they just instantly have as Marines, like they start sharing stuff. And then you like see the excitement come back out of like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:30:34 do you remember this and that? Were you this kind of guy? And, and something I have seen that's funny is he's a like frontline fighting combat Marine. And every so often, like I'll see him talk to another Marine who will be a higher rank than him
Starting point is 00:30:48 and be like, oh, I was at West Point and this and that. But because that guy didn't go through the level of shit, there's almost like a deference respect of like you went through a different level. I have a friend who served in the Army and I don't think he was quite as like
Starting point is 00:31:07 kicked down doors as your friend was, but he was in combat and stuff. And it's, I don't want to say changed him, but like it, it it's helped him put a different perspective on life's stress. So he's in a job interview and the person interviewing him, right. He's the candidate was nervous as heck and i loved his line he's like i can tell you nervous don't worry i haven't killed anyone in like 20 years and it's like holy shit yeah i guess so oh what's that i was gonna say does your friend have any cool tattoos like does he have like
Starting point is 00:31:44 knock knock marine corps like on his bicep or something insane no nothing like that but he has a ton of tattoos a ton of tattoos i'm like pressuring him because he's got one giant full sleeve and he's like i want another full sleeve and i'm like no like if you're gonna i have no tattoos so i'm biased but it's like no like if you're gonna i have no tattoos so i'm biased but it's like no like if you're gonna have a full sleeve you need that point of comparison with your regular arm you know otherwise you get that like joe rogan just like dirty like middle school desk scribbles look if you're watching get a tattoo the pka pill logo is popular yeah oh yeah that's a good one he was so funny getting his tattoos early he was just like he'd come up with something he thought
Starting point is 00:32:25 was funny and just get it he got a chest piece like a giant chest piece that just has like a wolf in a tuxedo holding two guns pointing out and it says relentless and he's like it's hilarious like he's got a bunch of funny tattoos
Starting point is 00:32:43 that's an awful tattoo yeah shut up up tell him that yeah that's great so he had a shotgun i like that's why i would like to talk to him because i've never talked to anybody he used one in combat um i remember seeing some videos of guys talking about using them in combat indoors and how you could fire the buckshot along walls and ceilings you know you spray into the wall or the ceiling at a very sharp angle or a flat angle so that it sort of rides that flat surface and goes under doors, along walls,
Starting point is 00:33:14 because people will be peeking just outside of a doorway, and you can make all that buckshot skim along the wall if you shoot it just right. That's so crazy. I didn't know that. Shotguns are fucking nasty. Such cool weapon the shotgun yeah if he shot if he if he did what he did then he has blown holes through people's heads as big as your fucking fist you know that thing was up close a shotgun with buckshot is just insanity more oh it just deletes people, apparently. It does. It does. Yeah. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:33:45 So if you were to be a warrior, John, you're going out there, is it almost a fantasy that you think it would be fun to be in the war, or are you serious like you would actually want to fight? I want that skill. I want that combat skill. That's why I started Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, because I want to know how to fight properly. So if I were to join any type of military branch,
Starting point is 00:34:14 the main purpose is to have the combat skills. Okay. Because I feel like everyone's going to need to know that skill here soon with the way the world is headed or heading. Is it the more gun skill you're looking for or like fighting? Yeah, combat, tactics, gun, marksmanship, like the whole. Because I want to stay focused on the guests, but like in watching the Ukrainian thing thing i've realized how much i don't know about how war is conducted and and from the tactics of how you navigate a tree line to the strategy of what how you know when you might use a pincher movement i still get baffled
Starting point is 00:34:55 by like say there's a front line someone makes some progress and now there's a bulge in that front line why is that bulge good for me because i feel surrounded right and then on the other hand when they make the bulge they are surrounded i get very lost as to who has the advantage like i i know the basics like high ground is good but it has shined a spotlight on how little i know about how to conduct a war and that's what he wants to know. And it also like to me, it shows how impressive like ancient warfare was and how they had to communicate. Like, look how difficult communication is in a modern war with walkie talkies and radio and like instant things. Imagine like tens of thousands of people on horseback or on foot and the advanced relaying of information you'd have to do. of people on horseback or on foot and the advanced relaying of information you'd have to do the anticipating of what moves you were having to do because you can't wait until real time to respond
Starting point is 00:35:50 like i just it made me think about that and it was like goddamn like there's a reason alexander the great is still looked at like that because he didn't just win with numbers he defeated people with way more numbers all the time because he was so good at that i've been watching um there's a mini series on netflix about uh i think it's like 16th century japan and this uh this leader who was like a minor leader in the smallest province who conquered like 95 of the island of japan um with his armies and those armies would be like 40 000 versus 40 000 samurai and uh this guy was really innovative it's been a cool show the first thing he did he was like we need peasants fuck all these like highborn like this and that is arm the peasants they're with us they'll fight for for everything you know if they win they're they're going somewhere in life they'll fight harder than a
Starting point is 00:36:40 rich man and then um he imported the the guns like the they were shitty guns they were the ones that have like a a burn a burning fuse on the back and when you pull the trigger the fuse touches the powder and who is this he was a japanese warlord who conquered all of japan in the 1500s and so he set up these barricades with like spikes on the front and you'd have like three or four riflemen in each one like three or four riflemen in each one and three or four bowmen in each one and then three or four spearmen at each one so the rifleman would be shooting and when they're reloading the bows are covering them and if anybody gets too close the spear guys stick them and all the enemies are trying to ride on horseback and they can't and
Starting point is 00:37:19 they can't run them over because they're behind the big spiky shields and they just slaughtered like huge huge amounts like there would be 4 000 versus 4 000 and 1200 of the enemy would die which is apparently a huge number they talked about presenting him with 5 000 heads at one point it was uh it's been fun i can't always there's so much ritual suicide back i don't know it But but for for for that to be true, like every history on every continent would be exaggerating. Right. Because this is the this is the Japanese and their records saying thirty thousand versus thirty thousand. in the Macedonian histories or whatever, it's like Alexander the great defeated a million Persians. And it's like, well, he defeated a shit ton of Persians, probably not a million Persians,
Starting point is 00:38:14 a lot of Persians, probably not the same way that like in the Bible, every time you see the number like 144,000 or whatever, or like, that just means like a shit ton. I know that one of those cities the uh maybe the capital um when the spanish came over and conquered was like the third or fourth biggest city in the planet it was it was like half a million people or something no it was
Starting point is 00:38:37 more it was the third or fourth biggest uh city on the planet at the time is that the population density it was like on an island and it was uh the population density of modern modern day new york where i believe uh south america that when uh is it cortez was he the one doing it all when the spanish came over and conquered mexico to me but i'm not sure yeah cortez conquered that what were you saying john uh so i believe originally the spaniards before they got uh, what people believe for the population size is actually 10 times bigger back then. I guess what happened when the Spaniards went over, they did bring over disease. And they just kind of killed them all by accident.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Which is why when people came back, there wasn't so many cities anymore. It's just because the disease went rampant yeah did it ever go any other way because without cities they just didn't build immunities and sickness is that because like why is it when europe comes to america or south america they bring tons of disease but they don't get any so the reason is is apparently because well there are some diseases they get but what i've read and who knows how true it is is that because the europeans had been uh breeding and raising like animals and shit for so long like being around pigs and cows and chickens and all that stuff has a bunch of disease that you're exposed to all the time and if you're not raising pigs and animal husbandry and shit like some of those guys
Starting point is 00:40:04 weren't when they showed up in south america they weren't used to all those pathogens that you got just being around chickens and cows well also you got to keep in mind is like smallpox is very deadly and and a lot of these people would have already had smallpox and survived it and that means you're immune to smallpox but it doesn't mean you're not they had tons of animals with those fleas on them with fucking small no that's not how smallpox is spread. No, but it is how smallpox is inoculated. That's how the plague is spread. Isn't there something about cows giving you a non-deadly version of smallpox?
Starting point is 00:40:32 This is smallpox, basically like chicken pox. Yeah, it's just like way more severe. Yeah, and it's scarring. I think they... I think that's what it was. It was smallpox for South America. There's a couple of documentaries that talks about that. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:47 but I still know how it spreads. How does small, but is it, do you call skin contact? Skin contact. Really? Skin. I remember watching easiest way to avoid a disease.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I can't remember what I watched not too long ago. I think it was the John Adams documentary, but they were showing how they inoculated for smallpox back then. They, John Adams documentary, but they were showing how they inoculated for smallpox back then. The doctor rolled up in front of these rich people's house with a dying boy who had smallpox in a wagon and cut open one of his sores. He's like, it's easy, boy. One last time. And like cuts open his sore and takes the pus out and then goes in with like a pus covered mirror and like scratches it with a needle
Starting point is 00:41:26 and start stabbing everybody in the family in the arm repeatedly giving them little pus injections and and he told her he's like and because they were doing it like that and not whatever modern methods we have of weakening the the virus or whatever or bacterium whatever um one of the girls got just got smallpox he's like it may be light or it may be heavy it's like this isn't a period motherfucker it's smallpox and the one kids in bed by the time they find out i am two towns away some other family with my i was telling that story i had no idea where it was going he's like they take the boy from place to place they pierce it they get the schmear and i'm like is this going on crackers what what's coming next peanut butter jelly it's smallpox yeah that would be disgusting you have to it's like uh you
Starting point is 00:42:17 know what i'm not looking the sword juice i'll just take my chances that's why that's why i wasn't i i didn't mind lining up and getting the vaccine because i know in olden times that's why that's why i wasn't i didn't mind lining up and getting the vaccine because i know in olden times that's the sort of shit we had to deal with and yet that lady was like yes cut that goo out of that boy and get in here to me and my little girls because we don't want the fucking smallpox and then oops well i mean one of them got it, but she healed up. She was a little, you know, like a bad case of chicken pox, really. Yeah, but I mean, she probably never looked the same. She had Edward James Olmos face. Yeah, maybe so. That's true.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And he's ugly. What's your thought on the vaccine now? Do you still have the same view on it? I'll tell you, the things that I don't like and that stick out to me is weird on the the whole covid vaccine thing or um some of the stuff that the that i've heard about fauci um and and some of the times that he was purposefully misleading for one reason or another and just there just seemed like there was a time when it was how many boosters and vaccines do i need to do i need to get before you'll allow me to keep my job again?
Starting point is 00:43:25 How many more? Let me know the number. I'm okay. Not for this job. I'm just saying, if you're a guy working at fucking Apple or Amazon. At this job, Kyle, you get out of prison, you're just better. Yeah. This show is a resurgence.
Starting point is 00:43:43 But imagine if you worked at fucking Apple I don't know doing Apple things and they were like you need your JB12 booster Woody and it's 2023 and you're like what are you talking about my JB20L booster yeah it's the newest thing
Starting point is 00:43:59 you'll need four shots and an enema and do what I'm told because I'm a liberal cuck. I don't have shots or masks or costumes I won't wear. What I was behind was the idea of look. I don't understand
Starting point is 00:44:16 the gimp mask, but okay, Biden. I don't think this ass plug is keeping me safe. Are you okay? I'm pretty far from fucking okay. I'm pretty fucking far from okay. There was just that point when global commerce was shutting down and it seemed like prices were getting high
Starting point is 00:44:34 and there was this seeming risk that the whole global economy could shut down. It seemed like maybe around then was when that shipping ship got stuck in the Panama Canal maybe around that time too and just uh suez canal i think that happened again since then yeah was it the suez canal i thought it was the panama canal the suez canal is the i thought the suez was the one where um with
Starting point is 00:44:55 the oil and uh it is it was the suez that is the one and that is where it happened oh okay i always thought he was in the panama canal like fucking wedged in South America. Those are the only two canals I know. It just seemed like we all needed to fucking buck up and go inside and stop the spread. Because what I was thinking was that there were people out there just coughing on everybody, running around, and if they just cut it out for a week, just a week, I'm not going to take your life away, not even your whole goddamn summer.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Let's all stay inside for a week, and it just seemed like it'd go away. Like if everybody stopped fucking for a week, we'd get rid of certain STDs, but we just can't do it. That is not how that would work. That's exactly how it works, Taylor. You think everybody's chlamydia is going to go away? Taylor, trust the science. Trust the science. Dude, if Kyle contracts
Starting point is 00:45:40 syphilis, you stop fucking, it goes away. It just disappears. I think in Kyle's scenario, you treatis. You stop fucking. It goes away. It just disappears. I think in Kyle's scenario, you treat it. You treat everyone. You think that's how shit works? Like you just don't go outside with the flu and it goes away? Wait, wait, wait. Actually, Taylor, I am kind of confused.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Because like, let's pretend this is a universe where you could get 100% compliance. 100. No exceptions. Couldn't people with fucking syphilis take their penicillin all get better and then it's just eradicated from the planet what am i missing i'm missing something maybe i don't know like i don't know how that works either but i it would because it's a virus applying that to covet and I don't know why he's wrong. With like, it would go away entirely if everyone stayed home. Well, let's say COVID, let's say you're looking for the word.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Some people think COVID just springs out of the ground. You're infectious, right? You're able to transmit this for two weeks, hypothetically, because that's about right. Could you, if everyone, everyone stayed inside for two weeks then i mean that's just the whole like that's just silly though like that's not how it operates right like the vast majority of people are not podcasters who can stay home most people have to go okay okay so i'll admit it's it's uh hard to achieve nearly impossible to achieve like so i'm on board with you there
Starting point is 00:46:59 but in theory i think kyle was like if we can get close to everyone, I'm willing to partake for two weeks. But I thought COVID was able to go through some of the wild animal life as well, though. I don't think that's true. They did say that for a while. I don't know. I don't think that's a thing. It was like dogs can get it or something. There's no way dogs get COVID.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I don't know. All I know is the media, they were talking about it. They were pushing it kind of hard at one point. They were saying dogs get it. The same reason you don't get kettle top, asshole. Don't you assume I've never heard that. You ever gotten parvo?
Starting point is 00:47:38 Parvo? I've got the ick right now. Wait, do dogs get ick? No, I don't think so. I believe dogs can get the black plague, but they usually carry most of their stuff for ticks and then
Starting point is 00:47:53 for fleas and then if it can be passed on to other animals or humans. I believe that is a thing. Yeah, a lot of disease can be spread from animals. Some diseases is only for humans what's that animal that all of them have leprosy is it armadillos or a lot of them have leprosy something like that there is something about they they could they have
Starting point is 00:48:19 you can catch leprosy from an armadillo like i guess they all have it latent but they are not susceptible to leprosy so like they're not the walking dead universe worked like it's just there below the surface leprosy is a terrifying disease i didn't know until like the last few years that apparently the vast majority of people have an innate immunity to it like even if like all of us if we went and like shook hands with a leper and then like licked our palm unless we were predisposed to it we'd be fine but back in the day like the bible doesn't sound terrifying at all taylor i'm not ready prepared to take on leprosy have you seen the the pictures of people with leprosy oh my god like they have that shit where
Starting point is 00:49:01 like their teeth are still in their mouth but their lips are long gone. And they look like a scary skeleton. Their noses run off, all their appendages. It's hell. All teeth, no lips. This is the worst date ever. All teeth and no lips. Dude, for me, a woman has to have lips. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:22 So what do you do for fun, John? When you do for fun john when you're not grinding when you're not looking for new business opportunities what do you do to cool off i guess nature is my favorite thing um i like learning i love learning a lot like lately i've been learning uh muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I love a challenge. If it's challengeable, I like to learn it then. Yeah. I don't like boring things. I don't want to rain on your parade.
Starting point is 00:49:58 It sounds like you like the idea of joining the armed forces, but you could learn those skills without signing away years of your life to the armed forces because there's a chance that they'll just send you through basic training you'll shoot like i don't know 300 bullets and then they'll make you drive a truck for four years but you could hire somebody to teach you how to shoot but as long as as long as you read the contract and you get them if you tell them exactly what you want on the contract and you won't sign it and you got basic training already and you won't sign the contract they're going to fix the contract for you you sound like you know more about it than i do i just see people on reddit sometimes who are like signed up to do this and it's like
Starting point is 00:50:41 i don't know call duty now i'm doing this a long time they tell you quote unquote you have a job but if it says something else in the contract well that's the contract you fucked now you signed it i actually so i've been on some of those subreddits too like ones that active duty army people are in and there's some of them give advice to people entering the army and it seems like a good place to spend your time if you're about to do that they'll tell you what to say to the recruiter and what to make sure is in the contract because just read the contract that is advice that was given to call of duty youtubers in 2013 read contracts is hard and sometimes they're intentionally
Starting point is 00:51:19 written in a way that's difficult to understand oh yeah i've been through a lot of school i still struggle to read contracts i would hire someone to help me read it i don't i don't trust myself to read any contracts that matter like with any amount of money or any amount of me being given away like like literal you know i i don't trust myself to understand with it maybe if it was like a couple sentences but then it's like shit what is this not covering now i've been there should be more here right yeah it was just like you is this not covering now i've been there should be more here right yeah it was just like you get this i get that i'd be like man we probably should have covered some what ifs in here yeah the more they add the harder it is to read the less they
Starting point is 00:51:57 add the more you're at risk you need a lawyer that's the racket i um you know like you gotta you gotta pay them their little little percentage to make sure that you don't fuck up because you know like you said with those youtube contracts back in the day there's a lot of that um most contracts are predatory in nature the first one yeah well for example right after i got off the tv show, I did a photo shoot with someone, and they were trying to convince me to sign this contract. And they threatened to sue me if I didn't sign the contract.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And the contract was basically saying if I saw anything under my name, they would get 25% of it. And that would have lasted for seven months, but there was a loophole, I guess, it could have lasted indefinitely. So this guy, if I would have signed, it would have lasted for seven months. But there was a loophole, I guess. It could have lasted indefinitely.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So this guy, if I would have signed it, would have earned 25 or something percent of everything I sell under my name. Right. Remember the grand finale of Fish Tank when Sam Hyde read the contract and told the people that there was no guarantee they were getting paid at all? That's true. Contracts can be like that. Now, he was not predatory, so he paid people, but
Starting point is 00:53:09 if he was, everyone there signed the contract, including you. Yeah. Anyway. But the nice thing about having autism or any disability, if you sign a contract, you can get out of it
Starting point is 00:53:28 because you want it in your white mind, quote unquote. Just like how all those chicks, when they get married and they sign that contract and they want to take none of this money away, I was depressed. That contract doesn't count anymore. I doubt that's true. No, no.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Those contracts get thrown out all the time because, quote-unquote, maybe she drank that day or maybe she has anxiety or any type of... Are you telling me prenups are thrown out all the time because maybe she drank or was depressed?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah. There's a lot of cases... All the same. Read your contracts and get a lawyer like me personally i wouldn't even want to get married with legally with the government just because of that alone i bet there's a good like website or service that does that that that you a lawyer reads your contract for a quick flat fee and like gives you a quick one over like i that should be a thing right like i don't that is the thing yeah yeah. Yeah, I don't need your services.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I don't need your whole firm getting an order. I don't need an appointment to your office I have to drive to. Can we get a video call? If you want to lower your contract for free, all you got to do is tell him you got this case for him that he couldn't make a lot of money, and he will read it for you and tell you what you should do, and then he's going to expect you to sign up and then you just don't sign up.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah. I don't want to make any enemies in the legal world, but I would like an app where I could just legitimately like pay him whatever, a hundred dollars even for a 20 minute conversation that, that was filled with knowledge and wisdom. But you could just do that in person at that point. Yeah. But I don't want to avoid that. I want to point. Yeah, but I don't want to avoid that.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I want to avoid the in person. I don't want to go see you. I want to click my phone three buttons and go, hey, lawyer man, I've got this PDF that just got sent to you. Would you look that over and we have a call in two hours? Absolutely. See you soon, Kyle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:19 My theory is Kyle goes through spans of time where he's part vampire. No, no. I've been diurnal for a long time now. For a long time, yeah. Yes, I've been a diurnal boy for a year at least. Ever since I got that dog, I have to be because he's up at 6 a.m. What's diurnal? I know nocturnal. That means I'm up during the daytime.
Starting point is 00:55:42 It's just not nocturnal. It's just the normal one it's the normal well normal if you're a man not if you're a bat let's not be species here let's be all inclusive any bat people out there living are like normal huh what are we your diaries are pretty smart that's all i'm saying uh yeah no since i got the dog i'm up at 6 a.m he with with him every morning so if i do have a dog uh it's a bernie doodle half bernie's mountain dog half poodle very silly looking dog yeah but i've got to get up with them so i go to sleep sometimes i'll stay up till four but then i'm up at eight i just gotta get up and go that's not enough what a horrible day that must be.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I would be in a bad mood all day if I slept from four to eight. Nothing would get done. There's no way I'd work out. Not me, because I'd nap from noon to four. Well, yeah, you got to sleep. There's nothing worse than laying down, thinking you're going to nap for 40 minutes at 1.20 in the afternoon, and you wake up at like 705.
Starting point is 00:56:47 And you're like, oh, oh, like what day is it? Like what's happening? You're so do you guys? I get so disoriented when I wake up from a nap. If it's at like seven at night. This guy is complete. This is the story of someone who's incompetent at unemployment. You need to get more comfortable with day napping, my friend. I need to.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I just set an alarm i just i said alarm i take a nap i'll often take like a 40 minute nap before we start and you know what you could do too that could help a lot if you lay down with your head elevated back and your feet about two to one feet above your head um that's the Jocko Wilnick fucking nap. Wait, how does it work? So you lay down flat, head a little bit tilted, feet hollow up,
Starting point is 00:57:34 an all black room, if possible. You do that for about 30, 45 minutes, and you get a lot better sleep because all the blood will go to your brain. Jocko says, Jocko says, you know, there's some nights I get like, you know, 12 minutes of sleep. So during the day I'll need a few naps. Let me tell you how
Starting point is 00:57:49 Jocko sleeps. I get maximum efficiency out of my naps. Elevate my feet, lower my head, dark room. 12 minute nap, I'm good to go. If the CIA was torturing me, that's how they'd make me nap. That sounds like bullshit. It sounds like bullshit. I'll tell you what, I've taken those naps before where
Starting point is 00:58:06 you need a nap but eight minutes into actually being asleep you wake up and it feels like you're hung over and like like like like i'm drunk now like i can't operate heavy machinery i feel so out of it because i was just in sleep and then jerked back out of it yeah i agree completely the counterpoint i've taken those naps where 20 minutes later I wake up and it's like right in the right part of my sleep cycle where I am the best me. I am just charged up.
Starting point is 00:58:34 It was the greatest nap and now I'm ready to go. I can be a real piece of shit if I don't get my whole, if I like, there's a period of waking me up during my nap where I become grouchy Kyle and I'm just a piece of shit. I can feel how mean I am. I'm like a rattlesnake. I just want to hurt somebody's feelings.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Sometimes I can't tell that Kyle's joking about being cranky in the chat sometimes if we're in there with the patrons, and Kyle will be like, this game's driving me crazy. I can't find this item. And I'm like, ah, he's goofing around. And someone will be like, Kyle, driving me crazy I can't find this item and I'm like ah like he's goofing around and someone will be like Kyle I think I found it over here and then they'll be like that's not the item you
Starting point is 00:59:12 fucking retard you fucking idiot I fucking hate you I hate you I know you think I'm joking but I hate you and I'm like dude it's just a it's just a gem in Diablo I need all the gems i need the gems yeah i don't know what i think about too john is you're uh you're a very religious
Starting point is 00:59:33 guy very uh devout christian i believe is that something you were raised that way or as an adult you jumped into it more uh so i was raised it like i accepted jesus in my heart when i was a little kid i would i never really learned too much about the bible or the church it kind of something i jumped into more my by myself in my mid-teens okay um yeah it's not normal you don't see that a lot that's a bad way to phrase it that's not common would be better i'm sorry um so in your teens you got more into religion yeah i feel like most teens are scratching away from it while their parents pull them towards it yeah so so all the churches here locally are kind of like trash um they're always pushing some type of
Starting point is 01:00:27 real ass agenda okay and so we never ended up going to church because of that and you know around 15 16 i was like i didn't like who i was so i was trying to change who i was and i found this facebook group with actually a really good pastor, someone who wasn't pushing an agenda at all. So I started watching his live streams. And then I found this friend on this app,
Starting point is 01:00:56 you know, just to make friends. And Katie, she started doing Bible studies with me and helping me out a lot with that, which was pretty cool and got me a lot lot with that, which was pretty cool and got me a lot more into it. Nice. I went to religious school and whatnot growing up, but something I've noticed with religious people I know is that the people that get into it on
Starting point is 01:01:21 their own take it much, much more seriously than people who kind of just continued it as a habit through their childhood and now just are kind of like yeah i'm a catholic the same way like i sometimes only eat fish on friday never like that basically like my whole like dad side of the family they're like we're catholic yeah it's like you guys haven't been to church like you're not even Easter Catholics. Like, you don't even go for the two big days, but, uh, have you found that it's, it's been positive for you and in all aspects of your life, relationships, jobs, you, you glad with how it's going? Um, I feel like it has a lot more positive outcome than negative outcome, I would say.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah. I agree with you. I, the people I see in my life who are like sincerely religious, they seem to have more happiness and contentment, which I guess makes sense because like, I'm very jealous of that. Like, I wish, don't you like, I know what you've like come down on the other side of it but like wouldn't it be really good like to believe sincerely 100 like after this there's something way better yeah yeah my um so my parents are super sick right now um they're in their 70s my mom's had cancer twice this year in different places. My father just got out of the hospital. And, you know, I never knock people who like find God, even if it's temporarily in moments of stress. And it's not what I've done. But if it's what you do, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I'm not knocking it. cool i'm not knocking it and i can see the appeal of you know a little grace a little heaven a little like you know just some goodness on the other side of this thing i uh yeah so i can see why it would give someone a sense of peace yeah absolutely like it'd be positive to be like oh god life's pretty shit right now at least this is just like a little preview for the good stuff like yeah right yeah in my case it's like ah someone i care about is going through it right now so uh but you know i have full confidence they're about to see nirvana or you know whatever you want to call it. And yeah, that would give comfort if I could buy that. What's your conception of heaven, John?
Starting point is 01:03:50 What do you think it's going to be like? You know, I haven't read too much in the Bible about heaven specifically. I know it's not what you see in the movies, though. A lot of people think it's like all clouds and some gay-ass shit and all these people have wings. Most people don't even know what angels look like. Most angels, they have
Starting point is 01:04:15 a shit ton of eyeballs. You know, fields going around them. I know heaven is not nearly what people think it is same thing with angels at least not for media um from what i do know about heaven from what i have read you know it seems like a cool thing it seems like an awesome thing to do or go yeah it does seem cool if i'm gonna be in heaven
Starting point is 01:04:46 or hell heaven 10 times out of 10 hell terrible marketing they let you know up front it's gonna suck it's gonna be bad something that a lot of people tell me is uh because quote unquote you're christian you know god we always oh jesus will always forgive you when you could you know if you make a mistake you, you're forgiven always. And the reason why a lot of people use this excuse is Jesus has gifted you with
Starting point is 01:05:14 the eternal life. Okay? He never said that eternal life is going to heaven or hell. Okay? So a lot of people, they get that tripped up. So I'm thinking, that's why I think Orthodox Christians
Starting point is 01:05:29 is a little bit better than regular Christians. Because internal life just means internal life. Does that mean you go to heaven? Does that mean you go to hell? Yeah. Hopefully heaven then. What is it about, I guess, the orthodoxy that I guess attracts you more than Catholicism or Protestantism or any of the other ones?
Starting point is 01:05:52 I feel like Orthodox Christians, I don't know how well it is in the West. We haven't gone to really a choice for that yet but i've from i have looked into in the in the middle east is a hasn't really lost its teachings versus most of the other you know chapters of christianity or whatever you doesn't teach what is in the book anymore, they're pushing an agenda. A lot of people, they'd be all like, like they'd be teasing it, they'd be like, well, the way I see this, or the way I think it means by this is so on and so on. Well, no, it says exactly what it means.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And then these people put a whole completely different spin on it. Which is why I don't like most of the chores here locally, because they always, they always put some crazy spin on it um which is why i don't like most of the church here locally because there was they always put some crazy spin on it putting other words different because each word has its own definition why are you putting all these different definitions in a world or in a book that was never dealt before for that sentence or something like that you know yeah with uh i don't know if it's just catholicism or if's the Orthodox churches also. One thing I know about the Orthodox churches, I think it's all of them, that's obviously better than Catholicism, is the priests can have wives and children and families in the Orthodox churches, which I would imagine helps weed out a lot of the ghouls that go there to pray on children in the Catholic church. That would make sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Do you think they go there to pray on children in the Catholic Church. That would make sense, yeah. Yeah, like if you... Do you think they go there to pray on children? 100%. 100% people who pray on children will go places where they get access to children. So if you looked at Italy, I forgot what the city or capital is called, but it's under control of the Catholic Church.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Vatican City, yeah. Yeah, that place is the number Church. Vatican City, yeah. Yeah. That place is the number one place where kids go missing. Yeah, I would not doubt that in some per capita look at it, but yeah, a lot of these priests, 100% are doing it because they want guilt-free, blame-free association with kids. And that's why I see a whole lot of people doing that. They get moved to different countries all the time, too.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I think that perhaps the lifestyle of being a priest, this is, you know, remaining celibate when humans aren't supposed to be that, can make some people become twisted. You might have been a good person when you first decided to become a priest you might have been the best i could see that and now you find yourself at 35 years old just jerking off for 35 for yeah maybe 20 years and uh and you're like i don't, finding your most vulnerable outlets. And some people go in that direction when if they could have lived a normal, more fulfilling life, they wouldn't have, I think. Maybe. Maybe I'm just more cynical. I think those predators seek out positions like that to abuse them.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I don't think that they became a child abuser. I think they went into it like, this is a way to do this. You're born a pedophile. You don't become one. You don't train people to become pedophiles. And they certainly aren't doing it in seminary school. Although maybe they're allowing it. And I bet there's a subculture at seminary school where guys are like, hey, hi.
Starting point is 01:09:23 It's like, got you there you don't think it's possible that these people get a little fucking warped and twisted trying to live a celibate life for an entire adulthood when you get warped and twisted you get into big titty girl porn or glory holes you don't say you don't say strays every episode you know you don't suddenly say i want i want some little boy ass you know you don't say that and that's what these guys do just like that coach i was talking about that they found with all those videos of him drugging it's they have a thing they're into like the thing that they're into will often be a boy and and it's not that they're that they haven't came in a while and they're extra extra
Starting point is 01:10:06 horny like like don't even try to relate to them because they're another thing they're pedophiles and and then we our brains literally don't work the way that theirs do because yeah whatever like the thing that attracts you most about sex with women and with or like the sexiest thing in the world to you to them that's children that's children and i don't think you ever become that i think you just are that yeah i haven't you aren't where i often try to like rationalize or normalize what people are saying right if taylor told me he could jump off buildings some people might be that's just a total lie i'd be like probably some buildings you know like up to two stories maybe he's better than most like i just trying to make sense out of it instead of just calling a non you know outrageous is that the same thing about gay people do you think call i think that gay people
Starting point is 01:11:01 are born gay i think that many times because of the way our society works for better or worse people don't discover that they are gay until later in life or people don't discover that they're bi or somewhere else on that so they suppress sexuality until later in life and not necessarily suppressed but maybe just never even entertained the thought because it it's it's so other it's so it's the hated thing or whatever like you would never even consider it it you know um you know i don't like russell's until i tried him have you ever heard the psyop that russell took credit for about making america gay no i did not what did they say um so i forget the dude's name i could pull it up after the podcast and send it to you but this America gay? No, I did not. What did they say? I forget the dude's name.
Starting point is 01:11:48 I could pull it up after the podcast and send it to you. Back in the 60s, there was this guy who did a whole interview with some US, no, not a US, a Canadian talk horse guy. He did an interview with them. He told them exactly about how
Starting point is 01:12:06 they were planning around this time in the US. Most of the people here would be a lot more feminine and a lot weaker. The way they started it was through college. They put
Starting point is 01:12:22 these teachers in college to teach their views and their ideas to all these students. And the idea was these students would slowly do the same. You know, then they become teachers, they become high school teachers, elementary school teachers. Sure. And over time, it was going to happen. And i believe they said they basically accomplished what they wanted and half the time that they were expecting it would happen and i don't know that's just from the interview i watched the full interview is about two hours there's a few different articles you can find online with like a 10 minute clip the russ Russians made us gay twice as fast as they had predicted.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I would love to watch that movie. Igor, come look at the numbers. They're gayer than ever before. Was it called Operation Infection? I'll email it to you guys after this. Yeah. Operation Reach Around. I googled it and saw
Starting point is 01:13:22 Operation Infection. I'm just not sure it's the same thing. Operation Pink Kryptonite. Operation Don't Show's the same thing. Operation Pink Kryptonite. Operation Don't Show, Don't Tell. Is Pink Kryptonite part of the lore? Yeah, in the comics. I know. It makes him gay. John, do you think that is a bigger contributor
Starting point is 01:13:38 to the feminization, the lowering of tea and men and all that? Or do you think the food that we eat and all the. So the lowering of tea is for many different factors. One is tap water. The soaps people use, the plastic we use, the foods we eat, these phones we use, the electronics we use, everything basically we have in this world, it lowers your testosterone. Nick, the vape stuff that lowers your t smoking weed lowers your t smoking naked smoking uh cigarettes that's made in the u.s
Starting point is 01:14:15 lowers your t tobacco by itself can actually in not all those chemicals added there's a whole bunch of different things that glorious tea over time. And if you just put his body through all of that, like if you look at Amish people, for example, a lot of these Amish people, they don't get autism. They don't get heart attacks.
Starting point is 01:14:36 They don't get diabetes or any really diseases or cancels. They live in a world without all this garbage that we use. That's poisoning us. Like the phone is useful yes but it has a has a cost it has a price for it i wouldn't swap places though i'll take the cancer you know those amish fucking losers you know like the ones that are out there actually amish life in it for realsies like i bet that life i don't die there's so much people is okay i was reading about this they're so much happier. There's so much happier than me. Yeah, because they don't know any fucking better. I was reading about this. They're good with electric
Starting point is 01:15:08 bicycles now, which feels really high tech, but they're just like, hey, you know, just better than a horse and buggy, better than a regular horse. I don't like that. That's cheating. That's not in the spirit of it. I want the Amish to stay Amish. It's not a real Amish if they're doing it, Dan. Why?
Starting point is 01:15:23 They're Mennonites if they're doing that. I think they all drink, though. Drink? No. I think they brew cider or some shit and drink it every year, because I've seen so many Amish DUI videos where the cop's like, hey, pull over! God damn it, he's asleep in there, and the
Starting point is 01:15:39 horse is running away with him. He's asleep in the buggy, passed out drunk, and the horse is, he goes, ah, hell, the horse knows the way home i mean probably like true that the horse has been that way before the horse knows uh jebediah's just taking a nap it's fine no big deal it's true i guess there's carcinogens and everything right but yeah they are way healthier than us because they eat way better food than us. I don't know. They're active all the time.
Starting point is 01:16:08 They do studies on this. They're literally way healthier than us. They have lower rates on it. Cause I would like to see on the Amish. Yeah. Because they like, think about how much impact, how much impactful,
Starting point is 01:16:17 what's more impactful than the food you eat every day. They're eating fresh, clean stuff and they're physically active. Like that would like, I bet you could feed them I bet you could give them Burger King and they would be just as fucking healthy because they're in that goddamn field plowing that bitch up every day burning them wafers.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Are you sure about that? They need to study the runs for no one. They're flame broiled, alright? The wafers are fine. No, no, no. Are you guys... You're on your own with this. What is the burger?
Starting point is 01:16:46 Ding! Don't forget it. What's that, John? You never look into conspiracy theories. We love conspiracy theories. Yeah, all sorts of them. Yes. What's one of your favorites?
Starting point is 01:16:55 What are a couple of your top conspiracy theories you've been getting into recently? This is one of the ones I learned about a year ago. It was covered in the media about this happening across the U.S. and Japan. So people would be eating at McDonald's or something, and they would find a teeth or a toe in a hamburger. Teeth or toes. And it usually traced back to a little kid that went missing.
Starting point is 01:17:22 And if you look at how many kids go missing a year in the united states there's over 500 000 kids a year and so they'll expect exit because you know what do you do when you're done when you kidnap someone okay you can't just like throw them away someone dice them up throw them in the front if you put them back in the food and people eat them. So let's say if 5,000 kids, no, not 5,000, 500,000 kids go missing a year. Okay. And you ate 5,000 hamburgers from McDonald's. You're eating about 100 pounds of human meat like a year then. If you ate 5,000 McDonald's hamburgers.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Okay. And those 500,000 kids that go missing, they never get found a year or two just in the U.S. alone. Well, that's not great. 500,000 American children go missing every year? That doesn't seem right. Well, he's real close. So what's
Starting point is 01:18:18 true is that there are 500,000 reports of missing children every year. Over 97.8% of them are found though because you've got so many yeah we find their teeth in burgers half a million children go missing but i'm fucking sick of burger king it's all toes and teeth and i'm tired of paying for this shit i'm on the i'm on a website called i got silk and chinese hair in my teeth a website called findthekids.org.
Starting point is 01:18:48 So those are their numbers, according to research. So half a million go missing, but they find them all. They do find most of them. What better way for a human to get nutrition than to eat another human? It seems like they'd be perfectly formulated for what you're trying to build. You are what you eat. You are what you eat.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Genius. That's what they meant the human trafficking victim oh yeah that's what they meant that's interesting i don't know anything about the cannibal you don't have any issues with it other than like it's it's disgusting and wrong if i knew that the that the meat wasn't from your bias if i knew that the meat hadn't been taken from someone who'd been like violently killed like like like they're like taken from them for example especially for the meat that i don't want to do but if someone had passed away or if someone had for whatever sick purposes had volunteered to be
Starting point is 01:19:36 eaten like whatever if we got a fresh kill that's that's uh guilt-free i'll say and i would absolutely partake like if it's my dying if it's my dying wish that you guys both have to eat me yeah would you do it for my right now i would yes fred taylor off my plate you know what taylor give me seconds you'd have my big like fat like ham hock shoulder and you'd be like god damn i'm tired of all this silvery skin and fat i have all right no i went i went 2023 i would eat i wouldn't eat you guys i i wouldn't do it i think i'm a little offended is it because that would be is it the chemicals no it's that oh wait i would i would see it as i would see it as bullying i would be like i'll make you more aggressive to give he's trying to make me traumatized
Starting point is 01:20:26 as a joke. Because that's the only reason I would request that you guys eat me to fuck with you after I die. I would eat you happily. I would invite people. I'd livestream eating Taylor's ass. Look, you can see the little divot right here. And I'd be cutting into a sous-vided,
Starting point is 01:20:42 I would sous-vide you, right? Up to, I don't know what the correct temperature for human is but i'm going to bring you up to 165 like your chicken and then i'm going to take you're going to be in there with rosemary garlic some butter take you out throw you on the uh the cast iron right get a nice sizzle get a little uh little char right out of there base with butter base with butter we got to work quick now okay you're gonna eat rest for five minutes and right on the live stream. Cutting you open. I'm going the other direction
Starting point is 01:21:07 with my live stream. We've got a pathetic meal time this thing. We're going to put Taylor on a George Foreman grill. I'll fucking haunt you. You really should do that. I would not abide that. John, what are your... Do you agree with me that cannibalism
Starting point is 01:21:24 is immoral? that it's wrong. The recipe of it. So I would give you two different answers. One, if you're a dude and you eat another dude, both off, that's gay as fuck. Second answer. Is that true if you eat gay cows and stuff? Or like chickens?
Starting point is 01:21:40 If you eat a male, if you eat a rooster I would rather just starve to death instead of eat a portion but I wouldn't starve to death I would just fast and meditate yeah but there is a time when you can't fast anymore fasting and meditating
Starting point is 01:21:59 so it's all about how you think what's going to happen if you think you're starving to death you're going's going to happen if you if you think you're starving to death you're going to starve to death and die if you're fasting you control this reality you control what happens what other pieces of reality do you control with your mind thank you i don't know i guess just my life just that one just starving okay like what what if i slowly raised the temperature in the room to a temperature that would kill a normal man? But because you were meditating and imagining a shield of ice,
Starting point is 01:22:32 do you think that you could withstand higher temperatures than a regular man who was unprepared? Oh, I know I could withstand a higher temperature than the average person without a doubt. Just because of my experience as a wildland firefighter. That's true. Let alone also I
Starting point is 01:22:51 try to put myself in extreme conditions at all times. For example, this past winter, I went swimming when it was 5 degrees out in the river here locally. I do that on a regular basis during the winter. During the summer, I try to put myself out in the river here locally. I do that on a regular basis during rental. And then during the summer, I try to put
Starting point is 01:23:07 myself in extreme heat conditions without water. I could go for days without water, weeks sometimes if I wanted to. When I was wildland firefighting, I would usually only drink about one water bottle a day while hiking up all this stuff and doing all
Starting point is 01:23:23 this work when everyone else would be drinking at shit time. And I'd be fully functional and I would do a lot better than everyone else. Because your body is more efficient. The lack of it. Yeah. I wish Taylor had been here for that. Taylor drinks a lot of water, but he probably doesn't need to if he could master that technique. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:41 If Taylor had a stronger mind, he wouldn't need water either. That's incredible. technique yeah if taylor had a stronger mind he wouldn't need water either that's incredible so you think that through experience through toughening yourself through from exposure and from focus and meditation you've you've been able to you could you could weeks you think without water or or maybe just a week so if i'm doing weeks i would have to walk myself up to that just a week so if i'm doing weeks i would have to walk myself up to that yeah of course the longest i have done has been a week you know it's not uncommon for me to go three or four days without water just because you know like i don't always drink water um three or four days regularly are you drinking something else like you have like i survive strictly on milk because that's less
Starting point is 01:24:23 impressive no no no no like if I'm not drinking water, I'm not really drinking anything. So the only two drinks I drink now currently, I've quit the coffee actually and the alcohol completely because coffee and alcohol makes you age faster.
Starting point is 01:24:40 The only two things I currently drink is raw milk and spring water. I think I got a fresh spring water from this morning I collected. So you're loading up on water. Kyle, unmute yourself. You're loading up on water in preparation of your next four-day bit. No, no.
Starting point is 01:24:57 That's just the spring water I collected for my week. This is stream water, like from a nearby creek, a small river. No, not a stream a spring it comes directly out spring water okay okay yeah you don't want to drink stream water you'll get very sick no no no taylor i'm tough on you and i don't get viruses or so shit dude that's just can i see that container one more time because it looks like something from supernatural like you just caught a demon's soul. And you've got it bottled up in there.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Holy fucking shit. Look at that big boy. Okay, you got a little spout on the end. A little dispenser. I like the spout. That's my favorite part. That's pretty cool. You're going to throw a couple lemon slices in there.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Get a little vitamin C going. Keep the scurvy at bay. No, I usually just eat my lemons by itself. Oh, you're just eating lemons? Yeah. No, you're not. You peel? I don't even know. You're eating it like an orange slice? Wait a second. Do you have any lemons
Starting point is 01:25:54 right now? No, I don't. Wolfed them down. Dude, you can't keep lemons around this guy. That's wild. Do you subscribe to any of the other uh online influencers medical advice like like the uh the liver king i don't know if you were you watched him he was real big for a while with his raw diet and i think maybe he also preached exposing his
Starting point is 01:26:17 butthole to the sun's rays i think he thought you need to get butthole uv radiation exposure oh that's hunter b, that's Hunter Biden. That's right. Yeah. No, he did have something about like you should be naked in the sun. And of all the things he said, there's no way it's bad to be naked in the sun. That probably feels great. But your asshole specifically, your perineum and booty.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Oh, well, like, how are you supposed to enjoy the sun? Like laying pointing your ass at the sky? He's like downward facing dog, essentially. Like you're offering your butthole to the sun. Oh, I thought it was more just kind of enjoying nature. No, you chant raw. Take my hole. What was that guy's fucking retarded website?
Starting point is 01:26:57 We made fun of it. Didn't we make fun of that guy's website? Like all his tips where it was like the fifth principle, ferocity. Enter every engagement like a lion pack you are the alpha i don't remember that it's like you're five four a lot of times when i go to these things 80 of it makes sense to me like i feel like it's mostly right and it doesn't matter who like i don't mean to lump all these people together but it could be just pearly things andrew tate liver king uh jordan peterson you look at what they're telling you and there's only a few It doesn't matter who, like, I don't mean to lump all these people together, but it could be just pearly things. Andrew Tate, liver King, Jordan Peterson.
Starting point is 01:27:27 You look at what they're telling you and there's only a few parts of it that are objectionable. Yeah, because it's because most of it, I haven't watched many of any of those people, but the stuff I've seen that like everyone agrees with seems to be like the Jordan Peterson one of like, you should clean your room and be responsible for your life. It's like, yeah, that's, that's the most basic of basic bitch advice I can imagine. Take responsibility for yourself and be ambitious. Most Americans these days, they kind of need that.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Like I know people here locally, they're 25. They still live with their mom and dad. And the mom and dad still makes them breakfast and wake them up to go to work. That sounds like, I was about to work. That sounds dope. I was about to say, I like that. I like that in Italy, that's a common thing.
Starting point is 01:28:10 I think that that can be... Nothing wrong with living with your family. Yeah, I really don't think so. There's nothing wrong with living with your family, but if your mom is still taking care of you, waking you up to go to work, cleaning your bedroom for you, doing your laundry for you.
Starting point is 01:28:25 It's a good mom, but she's making you a lazy prick that can't handle her money. My mom stopped doing that shit for me when I was a child. I can imagine if you were a 25-year-old you who's hustling hard, you're not just laying in bed all day at mom's house. You're working
Starting point is 01:28:41 two or three jobs and you're online doing this and that. You're really going at it, putting money away or investing, whatever you want to do. Your mom's house you're you work in your two or three jobs and you're online doing this and that you're really going at it putting money away or investing whatever you want to do and your mom's making your bed and and hooking you up with breakfast that's just a loving mom yeah but those kids here well adults here they don't they don't do that they don't make money they smoke you go drink and then they just play games and john i have a question for you because i want to say i don't know about me. Do you share these same feelings with girls? Like if there's a 25-year-old woman and she's living at home, do you look at her the same way you do a dude?
Starting point is 01:29:13 So I do not look at them the same way as a dude, no. Me too. Tell me more. Why? Why is it okay for girls to stay home and not boys? why why is it okay for girls to stay home and not boys well i guess i guess it depends on which culture you are we talking about we're talking about the u.s culture we're talking about like you know for example the middle east i was thinking of u.s but i'm open to hear what you have to say okay um i think the reason why
Starting point is 01:29:42 it's a lot more acceptable for girls to do that here in the U.S. is because usually, for example, growing up as a kid, most kids, the girls, they get babied usually by their parents. That's just a thing. They usually get taken care of. I've met so many families where the boy has to do all of his things. He has to become successful himself. From what I've seen, it could be wrong. There could be other families that do it differently.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Versus the daughter, she would get those college paid for. She would get this paid for. They would do this for her. I don't know if that's true everywhere. But from here locally, that's what I have seen. It's kind of like they see girls are more innocent and they need to be taken care of more and I believe like in the Middle East for example or like
Starting point is 01:30:32 Northern Africa it's mostly a lot of Islamic people though and usually for example the daughter she would stay home before her parents until there's a sister who marries her.
Starting point is 01:30:49 So, you know, usually, but the only difference is like they're usually the daughter would do a lot more to take care of the parents. For Cecile, it's kind of the opposite way around. The parents usually kind of take care of the daughter. And this is from what I've seen, I think it's like a cultural norm because, for example, as a kid growing up, if you're a dude, someone punches you
Starting point is 01:31:11 and you start crying, don't be a fucking pussy. People tell you to shut the fuck up. If a girl gets it, if you watch these videos online, if one chick gets it, the whole room of dudes turn around. If a guy gets in his ass, no one gives a fuck.
Starting point is 01:31:29 He can defend himself. You know? So I think it's just like a cultural norm at that point. People see females are more fragile and we have to take care of them more and provide for them. I think that's how it's seen. Me personally,
Starting point is 01:31:44 if I saw a female get you know, get in touch, I'd probably step in a lot more likely versus a guy. If I see a guy physically fit, I probably wouldn't do it. If it's a guy that was just able or someone who's a lot younger or maybe small, I might step in then. Do not step into street fights ever. No, no, no. Did you hear him?
Starting point is 01:32:04 I like what he said here. He said if it's anybody that he might have to tussle with, I'm out. I'm walking away. I'm keeping myself safe. But if it's a kid or an old man or a cripple, I'm stepping in. I'm white knighting the shit out of the situation. So like mouthy quadriplegic? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:21 You fucking dumping him out of his wheelchair and kicking him out, kicking him in the ass. I don't think that's what he said. I think he was saying what he said. I think he was saying if the victim is someone in need, who's small or old, then he's more inclined to jump in. If the victim is an able-bodied guy, he can handle,
Starting point is 01:32:36 you know, fuck it. You should have been even more able-bodied. Dang. I thought we were on the same page. Cause everything I said is what I, what I feel. No,
Starting point is 01:32:43 what you need to do is, is just look down and go away. If there's people fighting in public, assume they're crazy and go away. Really? That's not who I aspire to be. That's kind of a good cowboy thing to do, though. No, it's a smart thing to do. Have you seen these retards that jump into fights on the subway
Starting point is 01:33:00 and then they have their lives ruined? No. Their faces slash the razor blade or something crazy. Yeah, I'm public fight because no the world is not hollywood it's not a movie and a lot of times do you not carry on you and a lot of times she's gonna leave with him i got my clock right next to me i keep my laptop my clock and my passport what clock is it which clock is it clock 17 so that's a full size nine am i right it's a big boy yeah yeah uh you you mentioned conspiracy theories earlier and i just wanted because you said you were researching some i just wanted to run through a list just a few off the top of my head and i want to get your takes are they real are they bullshit starting up
Starting point is 01:33:43 like like the whole flat earth thing is that worth looking into or do you think it's not an export on conspiracy theories like i could none of us if i hold something i could let you know what i know but if i don't know it i'm not going to speak my mind on it sure do you know anything about the flat earth what do you think about that one um I really don't know too much about it. I know there's a big movement saying it's flat. And I know there's a big movement saying it's not flat, obviously. Yeah. I think the flat earth people are mostly trolling.
Starting point is 01:34:16 It's hard to find people who are sincere with it. I think some of them are trolling. And then I think some of them truly do believe it. There are some who do, yeah. that's when it gets a little tricky and a lot you know a lot of from what i've seen a lot of these flat off people they always go back to saying nasa's fake or something like that because nasa it was founded by a lot of naz scientists. So it makes it hard for these people to trust them. And then they try to go and say all the space academy or space stations in every country have basically the same logo. OK, so, you know, that's something they always try to say to saying it's like some big conspiracy and it's all made up worldwide which who knows it could be i haven't really looked into it myself i don't know i can't give
Starting point is 01:35:10 you a good answer on that yeah i'm pretty sure the flat earth would why why would the hemisphere see different stars you know like like that one i just don't believe those people think that i i've tried so hard to find unironic genuine people who talk about the flat earth thing and the i've maybe found like one or two every time it's like fuck he got me again like this person just said something that made it clear they're like fucking with me i i think when i look at a conspiracy theory uh the first thing i ask is do it would they stand to benefit by by cooking this up and making it making conspiracy which is a crime usually it's usually most conspiracies are crimes um like like would it make sense for this to have been done and you've heard about enough government programs that some bonkers ideas, especially I was going to say in the sixties and seventies, but Jesus,
Starting point is 01:36:08 even still all sorts of remote viewing like programs and, and dosing people with huge amounts of elusive. You say remote viewing is not real? What? No, no, no. He doesn't know what remote viewing is. I'm just saying remote viewing is when um you were sitting in a room and they give you say an envelope with a photograph of a place and they tell you to go there and without showing you the photograph by touching the thing you go there
Starting point is 01:36:39 or by by looking at a perhaps you look at a picture of a missing girl and you're like there's a river nearby. I can hear the water. There's a Coca-Cola sign. I was with you. There are trees. At the start you didn't have me. I'm like well pictures are definitely real. Let's see where this is going. I don't think it's like
Starting point is 01:36:59 it was like a CIA thing that they were trying to figure out. I don't think that they've done so much shit the cia i don't think it's like uh i really like kyle's thought of does this potential liar have the ability to profit from this lie that's a that's a red flag the other one that i call upon a lot is how many people need to keep this secret for it to be true, right? If it's like, man, there's 33,000 people working for the media, all not telling us the truth.
Starting point is 01:37:32 It's like, you know, that's a lot of people who know the real truth who aren't pitching it. That one's not compelling to me. Like the secret-keeping one, like, because you don't have to have tens of thousands of people keep a secret. You just have to have the five mainstream media companies that control 90 plus percent the same way that like yeah they knew about the epstein stuff for years and it was like they just didn't report it like so really like if you like like right now woody if you had a pamphlet
Starting point is 01:38:00 let's say just moon landing picking something out of my ass let's say you have a pamphlet that has verifiable evidence cannot be disputed that the whole thing hullabaloo made up okay what do you do to get it out there it's your mission to spread it um hopefully i have undeniable proof that i can share. And then I don't know, social media, websites, you're going to get banned. And you're going to report it. You're going to send it to CNN and they're not going to run it.
Starting point is 01:38:33 And so like, like I'm just making the point that like, it's just the gatekeepers are the media apparatus, not the individual secret keepers. I, I hear what you're saying and it's not insane, but I still think that if a large amount of people need to keep a secret, it's a red flag.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Sure, I understand that, but like military operations... Taylor, you're talking about more of an idea and just sort of a state of being. Like, yeah, we don't talk about that here because we don't have verified sources. But also, if you look at it like this, from what I know, a lot of these people, the reason why they think these secrets could be kept so easily. You know, Freemasons, for example, there's almost Freemason lords in almost every major city. OK, so if there's like a Freemason lords like in every city that has 100,000 population, I don't know how accurate that is. But I know it's basically every city usually has a hundred thousand population i don't know how accurate that is but i know it's basically every city usually has one sure so if they're if they have like a network like that it wouldn't be that hard to keep things hidden at that point if everyone followed the same rules
Starting point is 01:39:34 obviously how likely is it if everyone's going to follow the same rules because humans get curious humans like to break rules all the time yeah those guys don't have any secrets no no well those uh what was that thing that alex jones broke into in like 2000 that like owl thing what i don't know about that owl thing they might have some secrets that's what it was yeah yeah but i was thinking about the widespread secret keeping thing. Wuhan lab leak, right? It seems like everybody in power wanted this to be a wet market. But then it comes out that some lab worker's wife was like patient zero. And people start looking into the DNA to see what's possible, whether it came from infected bats or what have you.
Starting point is 01:40:19 And now, I don't know if truth is out as a quite thing, but certainly the Wuhan lab leak is maybe the predominant theory on where COVID came from. People were blowing the whistle on that at the time. I want reparations. Reparations. Financial reparations from the Chinese. From the Chinese. Yeah, I was denied my freedom to travel
Starting point is 01:40:43 and to make way as a sovereign Navy vessel. Kyle wanted to travel so bad. I had places to go, people to see. They had me locked down for two years. I want recompense. I want restitution. I want money. It's hard to suppress a truth, you know, even if you try.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Yeah, truth tends to come out or you like to believe that that it i don't know i mean i i think i think the cia killed kennedy like like i i think when it's i think the cia keeps secrets i think the cia keeps yeah i i think the people who that's a little conspiratorial are intelligence agencies next thing you know there's a thin blue line where the police protect agencies. Next thing you know, there's a thin blue line where the police protect each other. Next thing you know, you're going to tell me that they poisoned St. Louis on purpose in the 50s with chemicals.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Oh, okay. Did that happen? Yes, they absolutely poisoned multiple cities testing to see what would happen in mostly low-income and black areas. None of your family got poisoned. Were you also damaged by the Tuskegee Airmen experiments?
Starting point is 01:41:50 No, your people were fine. I wasn't there. No, you weren't. At the Black... They come out after it's no longer important, though. It's like, oh, by the way, in 1947, we poisoned a bunch of people in St. Louis. It's like, you bastards.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Like, oh, I'm sure you're not doing anything now. Like, I'm sure it's all above board right now. I wasn't really alert at the time or maybe alive. But like what started the Vietnam War? Like a fake golf. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. I bet that was immediately questioned. Like, I don't know when the golf attack happened.
Starting point is 01:42:26 I'm going to make it up, 1972. I bet in like 73 and 74, people were questioning it. Kyle, do you know when it happened? My best guess is 64, 65. No, 65. Oh, well before. The war ended in 73. That's my mistake.
Starting point is 01:42:43 But I don't know much about like the dates in vietnam i really don't no it's overshadowed by world war ii and all the media yeah i like that one i like that one and i like i like the civil war the civil war is neat um you know what i would do if i was like the king of of all media in hollywood is i would put a 20-year hiatus and it'd be like for the next 20 years you cannot make any media about a superhero or about World War 2 because everybody you keep going back to those
Starting point is 01:43:14 same wells oh you're going to make another World War 2 movie again no you're being lazy at this point pick another war how many good World War I'm sorry Korea War movies are there? Like none. The Korean War is like
Starting point is 01:43:27 the most forgotten war ever. Let's explore a little more than World War II. Let's do more. Well, World War II is a good one. I don't want you to totally cancel it. Think of how good the movies
Starting point is 01:43:37 will be 20 years from now about World War II when they've had 20 years to think of a new angle. Oh, yeah. I'll totally be able to remember those memories. I can barely remember them now, taylor you're cursing me
Starting point is 01:43:47 what about the uh world war three movies ukraine war i'd love some movies on that i think this spanish-american war you start with the with the alamo that's the beginning you know all the heroes dying jim how about more ancient history how about some ancient history wars? Oh. That would be great. What about the... They already have a documentary about this, but the pyramids in Wisconsin's lakes. Most people don't know about that. That's cool as well.
Starting point is 01:44:15 The pyramids in Wisconsin Lake? Yeah. That's actually really cool. YouTube found it a while back. What? It's a... A YouTuber made it, or it's What? It's a, a YouTuber made it or it's old? No, YouTube will found a pyramid in one of the lakes in Wisconsin.
Starting point is 01:44:31 It's really cool. I mean, that's plenty on find out. Yeah. They, they find shit under underwater all the time. I don't know. How big is the pyramid?
Starting point is 01:44:39 Is it an impressive one or like a, Oh yeah. It's impressive as fuck. Huh? That is interesting. Wisconsin lakes, Wisconsin pyramid lakes. Is it an impressive one? Oh, yeah. It's impressive as fuck. Huh. That is interesting. You can find it on YouTube. If you type in Wisconsin's lakes, Wisconsin pyramid lakes, it would pop right up.
Starting point is 01:44:53 There's a 45-minute documentary on History Channel. That's really cool. Pyramids must be the easiest shape to build for all these cultures to have landed on the pyramid as the big structure. What if the oldest pyramid is the Great Pyramid in Giza and those other three that are there? Those are the first ones, the earliest ones, and they're perfect. Maybe pyramids are just more durable. There were tons and tons of towers
Starting point is 01:45:21 that are actually easier to make, and they're just gone now. Oh, God, I get the time frame mixed up, tons and tons of towers that are actually easier to make and they're just gone now oh this uh god i get the like the time frame mixed up but i believe like the sphinx in egypt was there is more distance between the creation of the sphinx and cleopatra than there is between us and cleopatra yeah and so i don't know cleopatra the sphinx was already ancient. No, I think that Egyptian stuff, that's the conspiracy theory, if you can call it that, that I believe.
Starting point is 01:45:48 I don't think the Egyptians built any of that stuff. I think they built that mud brick shit. I think they built that mud brick shit later on. And the older you go, the higher the quality and the craftsmanship is and the statues and stuff. I think the Sphinx is way, way, way older than the Egyptians. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Or like what we think of as Egyptians, like those people who were making pyramids. And like the other thing, I love this, when people actually think that the Jews were slaves in Egypt and built pyramids. That didn't happen. That's a Charlton Heston movie. It's entirely made up.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Yeah. That's a Charlton Heston movie. That's like angels with goddamn feathery wings. That's some Hollywood shitwood shit the egyptians were like we need people who are great at manual labor to enslave ah the jews can we back up to the angel thing it's been mentioned a few times they don't look like john travolta from michael hell no if you read revelation it describes angels as like. It's not an angel description of them. It's like Peter or Paul or whoever writing a perspective of them to just.
Starting point is 01:47:00 I don't think it's an actual description of angels having a thousand eyes and multiple wings and the head of an eagle mixed with a bear mixed with a lion. It's like that was just him saying that it can't possibly be quantified in terms that you can understand like it's it's something indescribable and horrifying none of them say like angels are scary every time they see an angel people drop and are terrified and are like don't kill me which is a terrible way to you know like god knows that's gonna be the response no they're they're super powerful but they're also unbelievably uh yeah they're they're very or i guess lucifer as an angel was jealous of humans and so that's why he bailed out and was like what god you're giving preferential treatment to these things that you made in your own image i'm infinitely better than any of these things and then god was like no you're not your arrogance is evil and then throws was like, no, you're not. Your arrogance is evil
Starting point is 01:47:45 and then throws them into hell. There you go. There's the whole Bible. Also the whole story of it. Can you become an angel? No, no. There are different species. You're a human. You do not become an angel. Have you guys ever looked into
Starting point is 01:48:01 the Grand Canyon? Yes, I have. I stood at the top. So into the Grand Canyon? I haven't been there. I have. I stood at the top. So at the Grand Canyon, there's an ancient city. There was like a cave system that people carved out. And they found a whole bunch of artifacts, the same type of artifacts you would find in Egypt. You know, all the same stuff you would find in the Grand Canyon. Huh. So like the same kind of carvings Hieroglyphs made?
Starting point is 01:48:31 There's a 45-minute documentary about that too from the History Channel. There's so much about history we don't know. Like I would 100% buy that there are entire civilizations that we just don't know about. Like that have been buried or a tectonic movement hid them like if we've been around for hundreds of thousands of years like there's
Starting point is 01:48:54 gotta be older stuff yeah I really like that uh that younger those younger driest theories by Graham Hancock like the idea that that uh comet strike flash melted all that ice and caused a great deluge and that's why you've got this worldwide great flood myth and when he talks about go blackie tepe with the with the huge structures that seemingly were built using technology that
Starting point is 01:49:15 shouldn't have been around we should have been hunters and gatherers you know clubbing around with sticks and pointy rocks but here are these big monolithic structures that would acquire teamwork and you can't have like a group of you might think well yeah the hunter gatherers get them together in a team but somebody's got to be growing food for there to be this multiplication of like effort to food so that some people can just work and become craftsmen and and have specialized jobs it's a big step up on the tech tree when humanity was like, yeah, farmer John makes enough food for all of us. We can do whatever we want. I'm a blacksmith.
Starting point is 01:49:50 You'll be the cow herder. You'll be the sheep herder. Figuring out agriculture really boosts everything. You're a pedophile. You can't stay. Or you can become a special man in a coat who has access to the kids. The pedophile's like, actually, I saw a bright light in the sky,
Starting point is 01:50:06 and they said it was A-OK. Really? How bright was it? I found golden tablets in central Missouri, and they told me. Where do you come down on Mormonism, John? Do you think that it's, do you think that they're real Christians or too misguided? I'm not too sure, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:50:31 I never really looked into the religion that well. You should. It's entertaining. So here's the Mormon religion. They're very wonderful people. But I've never really looked into it myself, so I don't have a good education. So quickly, here's the deal i would say they're real christians they just add they just have an extra little addendum that's a little silly but they're such nice good people a couple hundred years ago that this guy named joseph smith
Starting point is 01:50:53 who was a con man claimed that he found golden tablets in the ground that were written you know there were new there were new books to the bible and they described Jesus Christ coming to North America, meeting with the Indians, and a number of other things. He never showed the tablets and he would only read them by putting them in a goddamn magic hat. And there was also a couple other ways they found him to be fraudulent.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Like the guy who's transcribing what Joseph Smith, what is it? It's Joseph Smith? Joseph Smith. It's such a plain name, it's easy to fucking forget. He has a man transcribing what he reads. He's looking in the fucking magic hat.
Starting point is 01:51:28 And God said, Joe, you're a swell guy. You should have 50 wives. You got that? And the guy's over there writing it all down. Well, the guy goes home and his wife is like, you did what all night? That guy's fucking full of shit. Here, I'll prove it. All that shit you wrote?
Starting point is 01:51:44 Give me that. Go tell him you lost it. All that shit you wrote, give me that. Go tell him you lost it. Tell him he'll have to transcribe it again. He goes back. Dude's furious. And he says he'll have to go talk to God about this. God says because of what happened, that book can never be revealed again. That's lost unto mankind now because of the deception.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Dude, that's such a good spin. Isn't that what happened on the South Park episode? Well, they're telling the truth. Yeah, yeah, that's the history. Yeah, they get the Mormonism shit in South Park pretty correct because they're from Utah. Or no, they're from Colorado. And like Colorado, Utah, Idaho, there's a huge Mormon population there.
Starting point is 01:52:26 And so especially Idaho and Utah, if you live there, you know, a shit ton of Mormons. Those are swell people. Intuitive. They are like kind people who seem to have happy families. They all have like seven kids. Yeah. Like they're they're planning to farm. You would think they'd be out, you know, breeding us, us awful regular folk. They are be out breeding us awful regular folk.
Starting point is 01:52:47 They are out breeding us. Is it the Celestial Temple they go to when they die? Because that's also where the wormhole aliens live in Deep Space Nine. No, it's definitely not the Celestial Temple. And if it's the same thing, if I can get to meet Captain Sisko by converting, oh my God, I'll do whatever they want. If I could go to some sort of Star Trek heaven. I don't think that Morm...
Starting point is 01:53:09 No, it's Jehovah's Witnesses, I think, that get their own planet. I think that is correct, yes. I think, yeah, they get their own whole world. I think Mormons have a normal idea of heaven. No, the Mormons have the Cel temple thing where like everybody in our, our, our like family group, the husband,
Starting point is 01:53:28 the wives and the kids are all in our own little group together. And that's, that's definitely true. Like that. If that's the case, imagine this, let's say, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:41 I have a family, I have kids. Okay. And then my kids have a family and they have kids. Yeah. So on and so on and so on okay where do i go do my grandkids can you see me then do my son sees me no you're no they'd have to that wouldn't be heaven if you couldn't see your friends and family you know you're gonna have to ask a mormon i'm sure they know all the answers to all these questions dude i remember that scaring the shit out of me as a kid when like they taught us at one point they're like when you go to heaven you're just part of like god's family now and like that scared the shit out of me i'm like i'm not gonna like
Starting point is 01:54:15 i won't recognize like my grandparents and my mom and my dad and my brothers and everything and like i remember this pastor being like no no. And I was like, what? Like, that's horrific. I don't know, five, six. So they're telling five-year-olds they're going to be separated from their parents. That's solid. No, no, no. My mom told me that.
Starting point is 01:54:35 I got drilled in the head with hell so hard my whole childhood. I was terrified of hell. Yeah. My mom told me that in the car one time. My dad was like, don't tell him that. That horse shit. I was a real deal adult before I found out my dad was just playing along my whole childhood. It was just like, hey, dad, like ever since you and mom divorced, like you just have not been to church ever.
Starting point is 01:54:59 And he's like, nope. So you just don't do that. And he's like, it's such a waste of time like he's just he he hated it he he just would golf every day yeah my dad clearly did too yeah it's uh it's boring it's fucking boring and they don't keep it fresh it's a guilt trip so often it's the same shit over like do you know how often I sat and I heard the Beatitudes? Matthew 5. Love is patient.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Love is kind. It does not boast. It does not envy. Not even just that. 5,000 times. For example, a lot of these churches here locally, they would be gossiping, you know, and that's quote unquote a sin. But you'd be talking shit about everyone there behind their back.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Yeah. What about a snake handling church? Like, I think I could get on board with that. If I could go to one... Here's what turns me off about church. It's a demonstration of faith. Let me tell you what I like about church that I've enjoyed every time I've gone.
Starting point is 01:55:57 I love the singing. I like when there's dancing. At a white church? Yeah. There's a ton of singing at every church. I've only seen terrible singing and awful songs with dodgy lyrics in church a lot of well the dodgy lyrics will be there yeah a lot of professional a lot of professional singers start a church um a lot
Starting point is 01:56:15 of them do they really good singing it toby keith taylor swift um the guy from uh just moving down uh that chubby chick from American Idol. Yes. I don't know what her name is. Kelly Clarkson. Kelly Clarkson. She got big. That probably helps her singing voice.
Starting point is 01:56:37 I wonder if she has access to Ozempic. I don't think she wants it. Everybody wants it. I don't know what Oz it. Everybody wants it. I don't know what a Zimpy does. You know who's not taking it? Sean Connery's wife. Have you seen those pictures of Sean Connery? It's him standing with his...
Starting point is 01:56:57 Sean Connery's dead. No, not Sean Connery. The other James Bond. The fucking... Daniel Craig. Dude, they photoshopped Daniel Craig's wife to make her extra fat and no no no no it's it's it's a funny one where like you see him standing next to her when she's like
Starting point is 01:57:10 thinner and younger and he's like grimacing and then like he smiles progressively more and more like the the thicker she gets and she's like here's Brosnan he's yeah here's Brosnan it's a very funny picture I think also uh Hugh Jackman's wife is uh you know doesn't match him physically speaking if you want to talk hugh jackman's coming back to be wolverine in the new deadpool movie do you know about that woody they talked him into that he has resisted that for like 10 years or ever he resisted not only that woody i don't know if you watch the comics or read the comics or if you ever watch the animated show in the animated show Wolverine has this wild costume it's yellow and blue and and the
Starting point is 01:57:48 images I've seen he's in the fucking costume he's in the yellow costume with Deadpool I think that's so he doesn't have to take so much fucking trend perfect perfect you don't need to see him all muscular I want to see him in a costume anyway like like use some CGI isn't Hugh
Starting point is 01:58:03 Jackman older than me yeah yeah yeah he's been doing that character since i was in high school it's hard to have a superhero body when you're into your 50s i mean you you know not without some chemical uh uh intervention i don't think anybody can be a superhero in your 50s without it you got to be like one of those specimens what's a what's another great conspiracy theory? I want to get John's take on another great one. Moon landing? That's almost adjacent to flat Earth, I feel like, because they're both space-related. But moon landing.
Starting point is 01:58:35 Kyle, don't fucking sway the results. John, moon landing. Do you think that happened? Do you think it didn't? Do you not really care either way? So most of these, for me personally, I don't really care either way so most of these so me personally i don't really care for conspiracy theories it's just like who gives a fuck if it happened or didn't happen what is true what's not true like at that end of the day how is it going to affect you yeah oh the ruling
Starting point is 01:58:58 didn't happen or it did happen okay who cares like how is that going to benefit you either way at the end of the day like that's the biggest conclusion i have for most of these conspiracy theories like if it's true it's awesome if it's not true okay cool you know it's vice versa it doesn't affect me yeah i i totally feel you on the moon landing tier ones where it's like i it does not matter to me i i could learn one thousand percent it didn't happen and i'd be like oh like oh man they got i'd be like they got me like that like that that would be about it i wouldn't yeah i don't think like what do you truly get from knowing if it was fake or if it was real. Either way, it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 01:59:46 I feel like. I don't think... Also, I haven't looked into the moon one at all. Seems like we went to the moon. The videos and all that, but I could be wrong. Seems like we went.
Starting point is 02:00:02 It's a lot of people to keep a secret for, is it 70 years now? Something like that? You know what's funny about that? Is there does come a time when it's way easier to keep a secret. Like, because everybody dies.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Like, 80 years after, that's prime secret hour. It's cemented in. Yeah. The difficult part is that first 60 years. Who's going to kill at that point? That's true secret hours. It's cemented in. The difficult part is that first 60 years. Who's going to care at that point? That's true, actually. JFK, though.
Starting point is 02:00:31 I want to know what's up with that. Seems like the CIA almost admitted that it was a CIA-related thing. Let's say if JFK was killed by the government, if they told us that right now, what's really going to happen?
Starting point is 02:00:45 Probably nothing. Nothing. I have no power. I would not ride in the streets. I'm, I was not alive during JFK's life. If it happened, if they told us the very next day,
Starting point is 02:00:55 it happened, something probably would happen. People would be wound up. But right now, who gives a fuck? I don't, I don't think people would even care. Like they,
Starting point is 02:01:04 like the CIA has admitted like, oh yeah, Operation Mockingbird in the 50s and 60s. Yeah, we had the CIA gave talking points to all the mainstream media organizations to launder talking points and beliefs into the American people to bolster support for wars and foreign intervention, but we're not
Starting point is 02:01:19 doing that anymore. It's like, really? Really? So you did that? and oh but you're not doing it anymore all right you're young for this but the first iraq war the way they beat those war drums was next level just condoleezza rice out there with you know hey you don't want the next mushroom the next 9-11 to be a mushroom cloud over new york city we have to go into iraq it's like they had nothing to do with 9-11 you just what is into Iraq. It's like, they had nothing to do with 9-11. You just met. She's like, no, no, no. I didn't say
Starting point is 02:01:47 they had anything to do with 9-11. I would just, you know, put them in the same sentence, repeatedly. But Iraq, pretty scary, right? Right? Saddam's a mad man. He kills his own people. Meanwhile, his people are trying to have a civil war. He deserved that invasion for threatening to kill George Bush. Did he threaten to kill
Starting point is 02:02:03 George Bush? No, no, not just threaten. They stopped a plot to kill George Bush. Did he threaten to kill George Bush? No, no, not just threaten. They stopped a plot to kill George Bush Sr. that was from Saddam Hussein. So just for that, I always felt like that's why little Bush went in. He was like, he threatened to kill my dad.
Starting point is 02:02:20 And I'll bring the entire front of the U.S. military to your country and have you hanged then. And so he did. The fact that we held on for another half decade or whatever was what never made sense to me. It's like, dude, we hung Saddam Hussein, who in my childhood was like a TV bad guy.
Starting point is 02:02:38 It would be like if we hung Kim Jong-un or something, or if we got Vladimir Putin. They went and got him and hung him we did that it was his fucking country way more um a long time yeah oh yeah he was in it was he was in power for a very long time i really don't know how long maybe since the late 70s or something i don't know i remember maybe you've seen it uh i i saw it over and on the history channel when he took power and um and and they're like coming in and grabbing i don't know what you call maybe senators or the equivalent of that they're grabbing them the ones that aren't with him and everybody's in the room sweating
Starting point is 02:03:17 fucking not knowing who who's next to be grabbed by the fucking security forces they're dragging people out of the room to be tortured to death and fucking executed and shit yeah he was yeah well but i don't know why we hung around for all those years afterwards and just poured money down the probably money yeah everything's money related somehow yeah but why why wasn't why weren't we more upset about it i mean i didn't care because i wasn't there but it just was like, why are we still there? Everybody seemingly should have felt that way. Oh, well, ISIS is there. That's where we're fighting them.
Starting point is 02:03:51 It's the front line for ISIS. It's like, they're only there because it's where we are. They're saying the same thing. Why are you invading Iraq? That's where the Americans are. That's where they are. This is the front line. If we leave, then they leave.
Starting point is 02:04:08 We don't give them a front line that we're sitting there waiting with a fucking rifle. That was the Taliban we were fighting all those years, not ISIS. Not in Iraq, though. That was Afghanistan. Oh, yeah, Afghanistan. Yeah. The Taliban, the absolute
Starting point is 02:04:22 funniest videos out of the Middle east was when the taliban took back over and then they posted all those videos of them doing like lat pull downs and like bad form rows and they're all fucking like arab outfits just like yeah just having fun in the in the the newly conquered uh planet fitness That was hilarious. I loved that. Just a bunch of guys who are sick and tired of doing their rock lifts in caves. They've been trying to fly Black Hawk helicopters. It's by trial and error, I can only imagine.
Starting point is 02:04:59 They must ask the group of potential pilots, who wants to fly the most? Not who's flown the most. who wants to fly the most? Like not who's flown the most, like who would like it the most? Like they get up there and start doing, I don't know what that thing is. What do you, when they're like counter turning the rotor or whatever,
Starting point is 02:05:14 it seems like what they're all doing as soon as they, they try to take off and they're like, Oh, Oh, Oh, it's like me trying to fly and fly a helicopter and Arma. It's terrifying. And then they all crash and die.
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Starting point is 02:16:04 That would be a good, a good, like a good parody of Dr. Disrespect. That's not nearly as interesting. Dr. Disagree. I don't doubt.
Starting point is 02:16:14 I doubt that. That's all he says. Don't think so. He's a terrible character, man. I fucking hate Dr. Disagree. That other guy was better.
Starting point is 02:16:24 This guy's not happy. This guy's boring as shit. Have you guys seen the tweet about Sam Hyde wanting to fight Dr. Disrespect? Yeah, I did see that. I don't think the doc is going to agree because he's a much higher. He's a much more famous guy than Sam. agree because he's a much higher he's a much more famous guy than sam and also that if he did agree that's got to be a fight that would give sam actual like nerves going into it because dr disrespect i believe is even taller than sam hyde and i think he was i think he was a collegiate
Starting point is 02:17:00 athlete right he's a basketball player. That's a problem. Yeah, he's got good cardio. He's naturally athletic. He's going to pick up anything pretty well if he played any sport at that high of a level. So Zach wrote, Dr. Disrespect offered a million to fight Sam Hyde in Muay Thai. Reverse.
Starting point is 02:17:17 Although that sounds reverse. Yeah, Sam Hyde offered a million dollars. And I believe Tristan Tate offered to uh train dr disrespect really andrew tate offered to train him no tristan oh tristan tate okay yeah who they got involved with the oh elon musk zuckerberg fight right like tate was gonna train musk does that sound right do i have it i think i think i saw something about that yeah i know that wasn't going to happen there's no way i'm concerned about our billionaires but each other do battle i'd love to see it like it would it's it's almost like
Starting point is 02:17:52 the idea of commodus coming down from the stands into the gladiatorial arena and and lowering himself to and doing battle as a as a gladiator himself, it would be wild to see someone like that. I mean, you would draw, win, or lose, or whatever. You would have more respect for whoever does that because that's a crazy thing. I've said this a lot.
Starting point is 02:18:18 Not comical. That's what I look for. If Bust went in there and was terrible and got knocked out, respect. If he goes in there, shells was terrible and got knocked out, respect. If he goes in there, shells up, runs, fights in a really cowardly way, and taps when he's not in danger, that's where he loses me. Yeah, that's no good. Yeah, that's no good.
Starting point is 02:18:39 Anderson Silva used to fight in a very weird, shitty way that was super unentertaining. I remember Dana White threatening to take the belt. Not just take the belt away to fire. Yeah. He said, he's the, he's the champion. He's a very popular guy.
Starting point is 02:18:51 And Dana White was like, if he puts in another performance like that next time, he's not going to be working for this company anymore. Yeah. He's like, I don't know how I'm going to make it up to the fans, but I promise you, I'm sorry for this fight and I will make it up to you.
Starting point is 02:19:04 I don't know. Who do you guys take in the the sam hyde dr disrespect fight if it did happen dr disrespect well i gotta stick with sam do you know how much experience because i like it for combat stuff yeah i don't think he has any like boxing or martial arts experience, but he's taller than Sam. Is he taller? I thought he was the same height. No, he's I think a couple inches taller than Sam. Isn't he 6'8 or something ridiculous?
Starting point is 02:19:36 I don't know. He's a giant person. I want to know the training period. I'll tell you what. I think if Sam meets Dr. Disrespect and they don't like each other and they're just bump into each other in an alley my money's on sam if they both get six months to prepare for the fight it's trickier for me yeah that's fair because he's people who are natural athletes like that it's okay it goes without saying you're way better and dr disrespect 6'5", and Dr. Disrespect is 6'8". But Sam has a lot more weight on him, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:08 I imagine with Sam, though, when you're the size Sam is, you're not used to fighting people with equal reach to you. And so that's probably wild to go from outreaching everyone to being outreached. That happened in the UFC. Jon Jones is the guy. Kyle probably knows this already.
Starting point is 02:20:25 He fought a guy named Gustafson. I suck with his name. Probably Gustafson. Gustafson. Yeah, anyway, struggles aside, he was the first guy with the same height and length, and John Jones didn't beat him, even though you'd really expect him to,
Starting point is 02:20:41 based on their records. He beat him. The reason he struggled the first fight is because he was up the night before doing cocaine and partying and drinking up all night. He did that, Taylor. So if he did lose, because he was scared of losing to Gustafsson, he was like, if I lose after a night of binging drugs and alcohol, then I don't feel bad afterwards. I'll be like, it wasinging drugs and alcohol, then I don't feel bad afterwards.
Starting point is 02:21:06 I'll be like, it was the drugs and alcohol. I'll come back and get him. It was like giving himself a get-out-of-jail-free card in case he lost. He barely ekes out a win, so they do Gustafson 2. This time Jones doesn't party, so he smokes him like an amateur. The guy's always just been so much better than ever. He had a couple fights last two, three
Starting point is 02:21:28 years ago that were close. But other than that, he's just a scary guy. How about this? A little hypothetical. Eight months of training. Okay. Sam Hyde and Dr. Disrespect versus Jon Jones. What rules? What are the rules?
Starting point is 02:21:44 What rules do you want? MMA or boxing? Boxing, I think it would be a pretty easy win for the two. Yeah, for sure. But MMA is what we should talk about. What do you think MMA-wise? Only eight months of training.
Starting point is 02:22:00 The Doc and Sam versus Jon Jones. Are they training in the US? Or are they training in Thailand? They have the they're training like thailand they can they have the dealer's choice anywhere they want to train they can train how would that matter yeah i don't think that it's important i think it does i think that's a big importance a lot of people in the u.s the way they train is completely different like if you go to Shaolin Temple, one of those guys who's trained for one year versus people who have trained 10 years here in the States,
Starting point is 02:22:30 they could kick their ass. That's not true. Well, they're not Shaolin monks. No, I know. You don't see Shaolin monks ever doing anything impressive in fighting leagues. Because they don't go to fighting leagues.
Starting point is 02:22:45 Oh, isn't that convenient? Yeah, it's legend. It's against my religion to whoop all y'all's asses. I could beat everyone in the UFC, but I'm so dangerous, most of my moves are outlawed. These hands and lethal weapons, you don't understand. If me and you were to square off and I kill you,
Starting point is 02:23:02 I could go to jail. The only reason you won is because you reached into your chest and pulled out your heart. Kalima! Dude, that's where you need to train, is in the Temple of Doom. That's the Kali cult. I think
Starting point is 02:23:17 because Jon Jones, 6'6", right? He's a tall guy. Shorter, or same height or ish as Sam Hyde, shorter than the Doc. And the amount of weight that the Doc and Sam could put on him is like two big guys of weight. It wouldn't matter. He'd win. He would, I think he's capable.
Starting point is 02:23:39 All right, so I just thought about, like, his last fight was against kind of the other best heavyweight that was available, this technical, large, strong, fast man. And John choked him so fast, no one understood what had happened to the point where the man was tapping out. I feel like he can do that to either one of our friends before the other one could. Like if he just goes, yeah, Sam, start hitting me while I put Dr. Disrespect to sleep. Oh, sleep oh those hurt sam wait till i'm done with the doc oh they really hurt all right i'm fucking done come here who did he just be was it cyril gagne i can't remember yeah john john's a fucking
Starting point is 02:24:16 he sat gone on his ass and fucking choked him out and was, there's that amazing picture. Jones is walking away going, shh, and over his shoulder, gone is on his ass, looking confused and afraid. He's like, ooh. It's perfectly framed. If you were to take an entire professional team in one of the four major sports, and make them go to a different sport, so let's say you take the four major sports. Well, yeah. And, like, make them go to a different sport.
Starting point is 02:24:47 So, like, let's say you take the Atlanta Braves, and they have to, like, play against the Dallas Cowboys in ice hockey or something. Like, because do you remember this show? Do you remember that show, Pros vs. Joes? Yes. And everyone used to like, I remember the episode where it was like a meme
Starting point is 02:25:06 where they're like, oh, wow, this professional race car driver is in the mix with this NFL player, this NBA player. I can't wait to make fun of this professional driver. The professional drivers fucked them up in everything. He was unbelievably athletic. It turns out that's way more difficult than they let on is is being a professional driver
Starting point is 02:25:25 yeah i was surprised by it what sport do you think would translate the best to the other one so do you think like an nba team would beat a mlb team in football i think the nba is pretty high up there just as they they tend to be super athletic they're tall and they're strong very fragile in combats or uh collision sports though i don't know dude it depends on the player or they're banging each other in a lot i don't know it's not a rough sport compared to rough sports like hockey nfl the nfl has to be the pinnacle of like athletic achievement in mankind i don't see any sport on the planet that moves as fast as the nfl with guys who weigh 300 fucking pounds and all the helmets and armor that go along with
Starting point is 02:26:11 it and just the speed they have no cardio dude they they have short cardio you take them versus a basketball team and put them in like another cardio heavy sport yeah they're gonna get blown out i'm with tay. I think that basketball players could beat football players at soccer. Yes, 100%. Because basketball players have better cardio. I honestly think football
Starting point is 02:26:36 players would perform... There is not an NHL team that would get tired before an NFL team. There is not an NBA team that would get tired before an NFL team. There's no way. Hockey players play for 20 seconds at a time or 60 seconds at a time. Yeah, but they can play a lot more. Do you really think
Starting point is 02:26:52 they have that bad of a cardio in the NFL? No, no, no. Obviously, their cardio is excellent. They're professional athletes. It's just compared to other athletes. Honestly, people shit on soccer. I can't imagine soccer players losing in this like soccer players are so good at always moving yeah i agree with that soccer is absurd it's
Starting point is 02:27:10 just continuous running i played soccer as an adult like i gave it a go and i was like how is this even possible there's so much of soccer is like jogging and then you see someone kick the ball back and you're like oh i was playing hockey at the time but now in beer like in professional hockey these guys are very fast in beer league hockey you can take three good strides and then coast down the ice to get to the other side that coasting down the ice isn't a thing in soccer it's exhausting yeah no you can't coast down the field you just have to run yeah so people shoot on soccer but i really think that soccer players would outperform most other professional sports if they had to play
Starting point is 02:27:50 it's a lot of competition in a sport that neither one's familiar with like yeah unless it's like super physical like rugby or something then i like obviously the nfl team's gonna fuck up a soccer team in rugby yeah unless they're just so much faster i don't know why that soccer field is so goddamn big they need to shrink that thing so the sport's actually watchable they do uh my my younger brother does indoor soccer like as a hobby and basically it's the same thing as soccer but they it's like half the size the fields i saw i saw street hockey like indoor hockey I should say, played on a surface. Yeah, roller hockey.
Starting point is 02:28:26 And there was a... No, no, no. Sneakers. Oh, floor hockey. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. And then there was a fight. I was like, this is just a fight now. This isn't even a hockey fight. It's just a regular fight. Yeah, that's frowned upon. They shouldn't be...
Starting point is 02:28:41 They squared off and everybody treated it like a standard. In deck hockey, do you think fights are frowned upon? I think they had each other. They're totally normal when I play deck hockey. Dude had his jersey. They were going around. It was great. Well, I mean, I will never not be pro fighting in hockey.
Starting point is 02:28:57 So if it's happening, I will always be pro. Pro fighting in hockey is my... Do you guys have like a subject in your mind where you're like, I could defeat anyone in a debate on this subject it's the most pedantic thing in the world but first of all taylor with your circumcised penis tell me more about your side for anti-circumcision, as in you know so much about it, what it's like to be a man who walks the street uncut. See, that's a good one. I am confident I could beat anyone in the hockey fighting debate,
Starting point is 02:29:38 but there's no one who wants to have it because it's retarded. And the only people who think there shouldn't be fighting in the NHL are people who are like paid by safety organizations to say that. It'll be someone who made their bones beating the shit out of people their entire career and then be like, I don't think we should be able to fight. It's like, fuck you. Of course you should. It's a pressure release. I don't think they should be able to fight.
Starting point is 02:29:57 But I think that as a fan, I would rather them fight. I want to see them fight. I want it to be part of the game, but I don't think they should. I think it's ridiculous. No, it is 100% necessary. It's only because they don't enforce the rules with any kind of teeth when people make hits
Starting point is 02:30:16 that could be career-changing. You should just be like, oh, you cost him his career? Guess you lose yours too. Like, throw him out of the fucking league. Accidental hits. Accidental hits. Accidental hits. Oh, yeah, let's do battle instead. Come on, everybody.
Starting point is 02:30:30 This is something that Kyle may not know, and Woody would. You are much safer in a fist fight on ice than you are getting blindsided by a professional athlete going 28 miles an hour. Like, it's not close. That's why they have it as a pressure release. The thing, I didn't argue against any of that. getting blindsided by a professional athlete going 28 miles an hour. It's not close. That's why they have it as a pressure release. I didn't argue against any of that.
Starting point is 02:30:50 That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Well, you were talking about not calling dirty hits intensely enough, and I'm saying that hits are so fast that often grievous injuries occur not out of maliciousness. The kind of hits that would normally draw a fight, those hits need to be punished severely enough that you don't want to do that anymore. They are. So they're punished by the penalty book.
Starting point is 02:31:11 You know, they go to the box. Not severely enough, though, obviously, because we're willing to do it. No, because then what you're trying to avoid is another player taking a run at your player because that's the natural thing, is they will take a run at you, and it is safer for everyone
Starting point is 02:31:25 to have a fist fight people very rarely in the nhl actually get injured fighting it's much safer to have it be an understood thing between the teams that they send out a bruiser who fights the guy who did the the malfeasance and then after that it's an understood thing in hockey culture that it's settled it's done there's no more fucking with that guy. I've listened to everything you've said and I've absorbed it and I don't disagree, but I feel like you didn't counter Kyle's point, which was that people wouldn't have to fight
Starting point is 02:31:53 if, say, a shoulder to head cost you 16 games. If that happened, then people wouldn't have to fight. The thing with shoulders to the head is it's just such a fast sport that when there is a shoulder to the head in a malicious way,
Starting point is 02:32:11 they suspend them. And that guy's going to have to fight too, more likely than not. Or they'll just kick him right out. The thing is that huge hits that blow someone up often aren't super dirty or intending to hurt someone. And so the response from that, from the other team will either be one. We send out a guy to blow up one of their players,
Starting point is 02:32:31 slew foot him, fuck up his leg, ruin his career. Or we have our bruiser go out and fight the guy that did this. Nobody's going to get hurt. They'll lose some teeth at most. And then the game goes back to a normal pace. If you don't release that pressure, you get
Starting point is 02:32:47 consistently harder and harder hits, and people get hurt. You touched on another problem in the league. If there's a situation where there is likely to be a conspiracy where we will slew foot someone to ruin their career, then now I think it's going to be, if one player
Starting point is 02:33:03 says it to another that we should do it, we've now have a conspiracy to, to cripple a player. So now we need to move beyond league penalties and start rounding hockey teams up and throwing them in prison. Clearly. I'm not even kidding. Like, like,
Starting point is 02:33:17 like, are you telling me they're going to, Oh, we're going to, yeah. I heard coach saves going to cripple them. Well, good for you,
Starting point is 02:33:23 son. You're part of the new NHL. Goddammit. Our team has been terrible since they threw our goalie in jail. Yeah, I heard Coach say he was going to cripple him. Well, good for you, son. You're part of the new NHL initiative. God damn it, our team's been terrible since they threw our goalie in jail. Yeah, fucking lock that cocksucker up. If you're going to cripple somebody in baseball, if there's been a kerfuffle, there's high tensions, the ump will come out and he's like, warning to you, warning to you.
Starting point is 02:33:43 First hint of any horse shit, you're out of the game. Yeah, but tensions don't get high in baseball compared to a physical sport where you're hitting people and fighting and you're up in their face. Wait a minute. I don't know if that's true. They have bench clearing brawls in baseball. Show me one bench clearing brawl where more than three punches was thrown. It is a bunch of why I ought to bitching. A bunch of why I ought to bitching where they pretend
Starting point is 02:34:06 they're going to hold a bat threateningly. Pussies. Pussies. I can't win arguments if my position is just wrong. Have you seen those crazy NBA brawls where they chest bump for two seconds and then the announcers act like it's a thing? What's not about the fighting in baseball?
Starting point is 02:34:22 It's the lack of talent. These are professional athletes who can't throw punches. NBA players have to go into the stands to fuck someone up. They have to find a 5'11 overweight goober to beat the shit out of. But when they do, it's a lopsided victory. In baseball, it's not that you're not afraid of getting in a fight. It's that they're going to throw at your head with a 90-mile-per-hour fastball. That's what the warning's about, and that's what the instigations are always around they hit your guy and now you
Starting point is 02:34:48 have to hit their guy and a whole you can't allow that to just keep going back and forth because then we're all unconscious or you know we killed fucking they should have rafael ramir in baseball just have real fights those guys are i like it when uncoordinated whenever they throw a punch it's bad baseball shit happens. I saw one. This is a long time ago. But basically, player A was traded from the other team to this one. So now he's friends with his ex-teammates.
Starting point is 02:35:14 He likes them. And they ask him to go out and get revenge on his ex-teammates. It is a fucking pillow fight. He's throwing it at the other team at like 36 miles an hour. It has happened. And I loved it. It was a, I love baseball stories.
Starting point is 02:35:28 I wish, uh, what's his name? John boy was around at the time. Yeah. I, yeah, I like that one channel.
Starting point is 02:35:35 You told me about Kyle. Baseball isn't real. Yeah. That's where it has, like it goes through a bunch of like old baseball tail and I'll give a fuck about baseball, but it's like just cool old sports lore basically. Yes. They make baseball interesting, which is hard. I don't give a fuck about baseball, but it's just cool old sports lore, basically. Yes, they make baseball interesting, which is hard.
Starting point is 02:35:48 I watched a video of Babe Ruth teaching hitting the other day that I had never seen before and didn't know existed. Audio and video is like, I'm going to tell you, there's a couple schools of hitting, and he's got this bat, and he's like, some fellas grab it down here,
Starting point is 02:36:03 all the way at the bottom, and some guy throws the a ball and he knocks the absolute shit out of it and then some folks they like to choke up on it do these little slap hits and i'm thinking like yeah that's what ty cobb did and he goes slap and like you could hit it and it just puts on a little hitting clinic and i'm like why have i never seen babe ruth teaching hitting what's really cool dude i did i saw this uh this baseball graphic that was like in the past couple days it was like the furthest home runs ever hit and it was like some random guy babe ruth and all that and some guy commented he's like damn it's wild that all these bombs stopped happening the second we were able to accurately measure home runs. It's like, yeah, you do have to be a retard
Starting point is 02:36:50 to think some goober in 1921 hit it 700 feet. Oh, it's not. It's 500 foot plus ones. 585 was the record, which is like... Yeah, Babe Ruth might have a five. It's a five. 585 was claimed, and I think 590 was like some other guy but it's like all the things were like
Starting point is 02:37:08 the most recent was 1951 or some shit and there's no way that Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds those are just the two that I know like weren't hitting dingers at a more intense right I get Babe Ruth was an all-timer if you take Mark McGuire
Starting point is 02:37:23 and put him back in Babe Ruth's time, they're not even letting him play baseball. They're studying him to try and get ready for war. That's what's going to happen. They're going to be like, in the future, they take calves off of muscular men and put them on the elbows of other men
Starting point is 02:37:39 and put the hands back on. That guy was fucking shredded. I remember thinking that if I ate enough meat, I could be as strong as Mark McGuire. When Mark McGuire was a big deal, I was into baseball cards. The difference between his rookie card and his 70 home run physique
Starting point is 02:37:58 was outrageous. Barry Bonds was a speedster. Barry Bonds had 25 stolen bases his first year or two. He was a fast guy. He turned into an armored rhinoceros man. His skull grew so much. His skull grew. He got a meteor head.
Starting point is 02:38:23 A meteor head. He went up there and looked huge i remember 19 i think it was 90 was it 97 98 when they had the home run race i remember it very well every day watching the news and look they both hit another one or it's like fuck he hit three today and like it was it was a crazy year that was really my dad's got the the paper for 72 from uh from mcguire it was kind of neat i do remember like i was a kid but i remember even at the time being like i wonder if he is on steroids and then you see a picture of like it's laughable to think that barry bonds and mark mcguire weren't on voids back in it but i guess people just didn't have the
Starting point is 02:39:02 the eyes for it it wasn't as common the cream like the clear no no no maybe you were rampant because i was young yeah ever like in my universe everyone knew mcguire was on steroids it was just okay it was you know what it is it's that i'm from saint louis and so there was a bunch of fucking like we don't know if he's roided up it's like that guy has dozens of veins visible on his forearm yeah i'm from atlanta hank aaron had the record okay we knew about the steroids you guys didn't look at that no before hank aaron set that record fucking 70 days or something. Oh, was he on the Braves? Yeah. Oh, okay. That's where the record used
Starting point is 02:39:47 to be. Who has the record now? Barry Bonds? Barry Bonds. Do they asterisk Barry Bonds? 72 fucking home runs! Do they asterisk Barry Bonds and Martin McGuire? I don't know if they asterisked anyone. I don't remember them doing it. They shouldn't.
Starting point is 02:40:03 What do you think, John? Do you think that steroids should be allowed in professional sports? People already do it. Yeah. They're just good at hiding it. I say let's see the most roided up hormonal monsters fight each other. That's what we're here for. Have you seen The Runner? We're at the end of an empire.
Starting point is 02:40:20 That's what we do, right? Dude, I saw this. Don't those dudes that transition into female usually take hormone therapy or i mean the females but they take the or vice versa yes like i don't know who's tougher is a guy who's on hormone suppressants tougher or a girl who's on steroids tough i i kind misgendered both of them, but work with me. It depends what you went through. Trans men or trans women. Let's have the fight to the death.
Starting point is 02:40:51 Because if you go through puberty as a man, you get the man shoulders, the man hands, the better leverage. Sure, but then you get on T-suppressants, you lose your strength and muscle and ability to hold that to some extent. You'll be alright. Or the alternative is a chick,
Starting point is 02:41:06 a newly formed man on T who's jacked and grows a beard. Oh, he's jacked? He's on T. Well, I mean, it doesn't grow muscles. It's not... Well, let's assume they're trying to grow muscles.
Starting point is 02:41:21 What are your guys' thoughts on all those females in the... Trans men They're trying to grow muscles. What are your thoughts on all those females and the trans men as a female and the athletes and always kicking the female's ass? Do you think that's fair?
Starting point is 02:41:36 Yeah, so trans women competing against traditional women? Obviously, it's not fair. Of course, it's not fair. I like the ones you already even on hormone suppressants. They're just flat out identified as girls. There's an easy solution. I've been saying all along,
Starting point is 02:41:55 abolish all women's and men's sports. We have one league now for every sport. Dude, but that just abolishes all non-male sports. That's not fair. Women should be able to play sports if they want. May the best person win. I guarantee you next year, the Yankees,
Starting point is 02:42:14 half a dozen women on their tailor. Tell me they won't. They absolutely won't. You're right. You know what? I like just the single fucking woman on the Yankees. There won't be a single woman because they'll be like, you are terrible at pitching. What if that was the league rules? That's how they spice the game up.
Starting point is 02:42:27 Every team must have three women starters. Oh, you know what? In the NHL, I would be down for it if they're like, all right, all goalies have to be women now. Dude, the scores of NHL games are now 15 to 11. It's huge scores. That'd be big. All right, well all right well hang on now just get a big i don't know anything about women's hockey i know it exists how what's the speed difference on a
Starting point is 02:42:51 slap shot from a man versus a woman in a day it's uh women don't tend to take as many slap shots because so like zidane ochara could shoot at 113 miles an hour. Okay, so let's say the average man is doing 105. Yeah, an average NHLer can shoot it very fast. There's no way a woman can even approach that. If a woman could take a slapper that hit mid-80s, I'd be pretty... Maybe mid-80s? Usually women play with higher flex sticks
Starting point is 02:43:25 that are more conducive to wrist shots than slap shots. And so they don't take as many slap shots. Could they is there a would there be a case for a woman being more Gretzky like like like in and out bobbing and
Starting point is 02:43:36 weaving more more more quick on her feet? No, it would. She'd just be too slow. The the NHL, the male players would be too fast for her to get away and they'd close the distance. And also, there's not really hitting
Starting point is 02:43:47 in women's hockey. Did you guys see that clip of the one chick on the MMA after she kicked that person's ass? She'd show her tits to everyone. What do you think would have happened if it was a dude showing his dick? You'd go to jail.
Starting point is 02:44:04 Yeah. And it is different. I think everyone can agree that tits are a lot more light and there's more levity in a woman showing her tits than a guy pulling his cock out. I'm not sure how many states it is, but I think it's the vast majority of states. It's perfectly legal for women to be topless in public. Yeah, I think so. I'm almost positive.
Starting point is 02:44:22 As it should be. Freedom. So it's a completely different thing. And a titty is a completely different thing than a dick. for women to be topless in public. I'm almost positive. It's a completely different thing. A titty is a completely different thing than a dick. I've now seen the girl showing her boobs to the crowd and I approve. She's an OnlyFans model. That was like some
Starting point is 02:44:37 foxy boxing thing, I think. Good for her and she won her fight. Daniela Hemsley. Shout out, Daniela. Keep fighting, keep she won her fight. Daniela Hemsley. Shout out, Daniela. Keep fighting, keep winning. True ass. Keep flashing, most importantly. She doesn't really need to fight
Starting point is 02:44:56 as far as I'm concerned. Just keep showing the jugs. She's been banned from YouTube boxing. Was she the one that made out with her opponent? I saw that the other day. One of the chicks was going to kiss the other one to make her uncomfortable and the other chick was like, yeah, let's fucking make out. Grabbed her. It's great.
Starting point is 02:45:12 What is the creator class? People keep telling me about it but I haven't looked into it. He asked what is creator class? Is that like YouTube finals or what do they do? There's a couple youtube boxing promotions and that's one of them i forget who owns or runs creator clash but um yeah youtubers
Starting point is 02:45:33 fight each other apparently they really get paid they oh i dubs owns creator clash thanks zach and uh then they go through with it they put on a fight it's good show oh woody i was talking to you a little bit about real mma during pkn this week i think women's mixed martial arts is kind of done in the ufc for a while or at least it has taken this huge step backwards because we did have not too long ago obviously ronda was the queen and but that she bled a little bit of her pop into amanda nunez so that amanda nunez carried that flag onward a little bit, and obviously not the same way. But then you had Rose and you had Shevchenko. You had these three pretty, good-on-the-mic ladies champions,
Starting point is 02:46:13 and Nunez to a lesser extent, but she's got her own audience. Now all of them are essentially out of the game. I haven't seen Shevchenko's training. I think Rose has a fight coming. Rose, I don't know about that. I believe that she said it or that you heard it. We'll see. Last thing I heard from Rose was she lost a Jits tournament or
Starting point is 02:46:31 something or a grappling tournament to a kid. I remember that. Was it a boy or a girl? It was a girl. Oh, yikes. But yeah, I don't know. I just don't care. I think they're going to kill the 145-pound weight class because there's no reason. I think I heard Dana say that, so you're probably right.
Starting point is 02:46:50 I think they should kill 135 too. Really? I like the big girls. I mean, it's just Holly Holm. It's just Holly Holm. Is that it? It used to be the premier class. She got choked the fuck out last week.
Starting point is 02:47:02 That's where Ronda fought. Yeah. What do you guys think about Foggy Fresh? I don to be the premier class. That's where Ronda fought. What do you guys think about Froggy Fresh? I don't know who that is. Who's this? Froggy Fresh, he's the guy that was really
Starting point is 02:47:15 he got kicked out of iDubbbz boxing thing because he trained with Sam Hyde. Is that right? Yeah. You have a hard time to iDubbbz's girlfriend, wife, person. I don't really know what... I don't follow the iDubbbz stuff at all. I don't really know much about him.
Starting point is 02:47:35 I know that apparently his boxing event lost a bunch of money. Oh, it did? Yeah, I think he lost like $200,000 or something like that in the negative. Oh, yikes. That's pretty fucking awful. I thought these things were swimming in cash.
Starting point is 02:47:49 Yeah, he should have spent less time trying to fight Sam Hyde. Isn't that the one that had wings? No, no, no. This is... That's a different one. The Keemstar one did the wings. Oh, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 02:48:01 The iDubbbz one was the one that... The only thing I know about the iDubbbz one was was like and it's because i'm a sam hyde fan was like him just being like no you can't he can't come and you can't associate with him you can't be affiliated with him at all because of uh uh the sponsors are gonna pull out if you do it's like no that's retarded that's not true you think the sponsors are gonna pull out of your event because a guy trained for three days in a way that wasn't even publicized until you made a big to-do about it? Really?
Starting point is 02:48:30 You think fucking Blue Apron's going to give a shit? Like, that sounds fucking ridiculous. So, yeah, I would imagine he's probably done with his whole fighting thing now if they lost a quarter million. Right? You would think so. Maybe. I haven't known many of the fighters for a while like obviously i know jake paul and logan paul at the top and stuff and i knew wings
Starting point is 02:48:53 but a lot of times i'm like i don't know either of these youtubers they're not yeah the proper level of star i guess proper level of star is more expensive i saw one way that like idubbbz event got hated on is i think maybe i might be wrong but i believe that the froggy fresh guy was supposed to fight this other guy named chris ray gun who's also like i guess they're both shorter guys and because the froggy guy got kicked out idubbbz and their organization had Chris Raygun, who's like 5'4", a shorter guy, fight some dude like 7, 8 inches taller than him and like 50 pounds heavier. And I saw the clip where this poor dude who agreed to the fight with someone else is getting his shit rocked by someone who he has no business fighting. It's totally unfair to him to put him in the ring with this guy. And I saw people shitting on him like, oh, yeah, really?
Starting point is 02:49:47 Like, this is a better look than just letting this guy fight? Just putting a 5'4 guy out there against a 5'11 guy and like, come on. And let alone Froggy Fresh. I think he trained for over six months doing this too. Sam Hardy, he put a lot of money into training. I don't know what kind of content he does or anything. I gotta be honest. I don't even like watching professionals
Starting point is 02:50:11 box. I've just never understood the big... It's only interesting if it's someone you actually know like wings to me. Or Harley. I will watch any of you guys fight. I watch Harley fight people i know in fucking real life but the idea of showing up to watch a guy who should be somewhere playing call of duty
Starting point is 02:50:31 get into the ring and do combat with a guy who should be somewhere playing halo or something that's not my bag you know it's just not my idea so i want to go on motors because i'm with kyle 100 every nearly every time i watch a boxing fight i'm disappointed even if it ends in a knockout it just seemed like eight rounds of patty cakes and undamaging punches that i know are accumulating until there's finally a finish it's boring it's always boring yet somehow when the next fight rolls along I forget that and they get me hyped. I've stopped. Nate Diaz is about to fight the Paul brother.
Starting point is 02:51:12 I'm not watching that shit. It's going to be fucking stupid. I don't fucking care. Nate's going to get smoked. Wait, the professional fighter is going to... Oh, it's boxing. Okay, never mind. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, he's retired.
Starting point is 02:51:21 Jake Paul's a pro fighter, too. He's like... Take Jake Paul's YouTube success away, just pretend he was never famous, but this guy with dynamite in his hands knocks out the former 170 pound UFC champion twice, and you're like
Starting point is 02:51:37 oh shit, I guess this guy's a good fighter right, and he beat Ben Askren, he beat did he fight Anderson Silva? Tyron woodley is the is the one he is tyron woodley knock the fuck out it's not tyrone who is it it's tyron tyron okay um so woodley twice i think he beat silva right anderson silva yeah yeah dude you'd be impressed with this guy if he'd never been on youtube. No, I do agree. Jake Paul is pretty impressive. Like you said, if you took away his YouTube frame
Starting point is 02:52:08 and everything else, he trained for like a few years and extremely hard at it. You can't just become a fighter out of nowhere one day. You gotta train for that. Yeah, I've got to comment on it. You are cracking me up
Starting point is 02:52:23 with that tiny little mason jar you're drinking water out of four ounces at a time. You got a jug the size of a UFC fighter's torso and you're filling up a three-ounce cup. Because you're very measured with your water. Look at me over here, just willy-nilly drinking water like it's free. That's his year's supply, Taylor. When you're doing your water fasts for like three days,
Starting point is 02:52:56 personally, if I go like six hours without any liquid, I notice it intensely because I'm drinking over a gallon a day of water usually. How long? You said you've done three days. Do you do that regularly? Yeah, so me personally, on a regular day, I've actually drank a lot more water than I usually do just because the room I'm in has no windows and no AC, so it's super
Starting point is 02:53:25 hot. That's the only reason I'm drinking water right now. It's like a sauna. I'm pulling down sweats. Why not? You're wearing a suit jacket? Yeah. But usually I maybe drink one cup of water a day. Why is the room so hot?
Starting point is 02:53:41 Why is the room so hot? This is my garage. You're in your garage? Yeah yeah that begs the question why are you not inside yeah uh so the reason why i'm not inside the reason why i'm not inside is these walls are a lot more soundproof than every the room okay so i would bother because there's lots of kids outside my house but there's like a park and there's like a busy street so i'd rather not people hear someone stealing someone's shit or like hearing a kid scream in the background so if you were inside you'd hear the outside more than your garage probably yeah okay huh so what i would have expected who who was it that i guess gave you the idea that like to go on the water cleanses
Starting point is 02:54:35 oh no i just do it sometimes like i don't do it on purpose it's just like i forget to drink water my theory is that because he gets his water fucking in the wilderness from a spring he rations it it's very difficult is that you wouldn't just drink it willy-nilly either yeah if i had to go to pick it yeah i mean there was there was that time on Fish Tank, I recall, where you had not drank anything but coffee for like four straight days. And you were like dry heaving, trying to fall asleep because you were so dehydrated that I think Sam, I think Jet had to come up and be like, please drink some water. John, is that what happened? drink some water. John, is that what happened?
Starting point is 02:55:25 Basically, because I'm not going to lie, I didn't like the bottled water crap they had or the tap water. The bottled water and the tap water are below your standards. I figure at least with coffee, it steams and then it gets filtered through coffee filters.
Starting point is 02:55:42 I figure that's a little bit better. Yeah, so you don't even like the bottled water. Uh-uh. gets filtered through coffee filters. I figured that's a little bit better. Yeah. So you don't even like the bottled water. Uh-uh. Because it's in plastic? Because of the plastic, which lowers your tea. Yeah. And usually, if I drink bottled water, it makes my mouth super dry.
Starting point is 02:55:57 So the first time I went on drinking only spring water for a year, and I went back, I was gone for like a week without my screen water so I drank some bottled water from the store that shit tastes so fucking nasty when I drink bottled water
Starting point is 02:56:13 when I drink bottled water it makes my mouth super wet me too are you a water brand snob like are you like Dasani no but like Evian you'll drink or that shit I Are you like, oh, Dasani? No. But Evian you'll drink? I bet you drink the shit in the glass bottles.
Starting point is 02:56:30 Voss? Right? Why would I buy that if I could just use that money in gas to go collect spring water? Smart. That's true. like i do where are you collecting the the spring water is it really just a spigot like in the ground that you're pumping no it comes straight out of the ground like there's no spigot it comes out of a hole out of the ground oh okay so like you're just holding the jug right out... How far away is this from you that
Starting point is 02:57:05 you have to go? It's about 10-15 minutes drive and then from the park lot the spot I go is Terminal Falls and then from the park lot it's like a five minute hike. They actually built a fence to prevent me from collecting my spring water, which I've been doing
Starting point is 02:57:21 it for so long. People have been complaining, I guess. So now I have to go under the fence. What have they... So now you have to break in to get the spring water because you got some... Well, I'm not breaking in. It's public property. They just made the fence to make it look nicer. They cut down a whole bunch of trees to try to prevent me from going where I go.
Starting point is 02:57:42 But... It's not going to work. It's public property. What are they going to do? Yeah. So a 15-minute drive and a five-minute hike, get the water. How often are you going back? Like every day, every other day?
Starting point is 02:57:55 About once a week. I fill my spring water a lot. Actually, so usually I bring like 10 gallons usually to my father because my father really likes the spring water. He drinks a lot more water than I do. It's actually my mother's birthday today, so happy birthday, Mom. Shout out to your mom. Yeah, shout out to my mom.
Starting point is 02:58:17 Top day. Shout out to John's mom. Happy birthday. So I usually collect multiple containers for different people. There's some people that's not physically able to go out and do that every day. So I usually collect it for them, and they really appreciate it. You collect water for cripples? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:37 This is what actual good people do. These collect water for cripples. There's no way this morning this morning i showed uh one of my colleagues well i go to collect spring water and she was able to collect some she was pretty psyched about it that's that one oh it's killing me the the pinky up cup i can't remember where we were hiking, but we were up on some mountain and the water floats straight out of the rock at like chest level.
Starting point is 02:59:12 That's what Top J is talking about. That's what he collects from. Oh, I thought it was maybe a spring like bubbling out of the ground. I've seen that too. Like on my dad's property, there's a spring that just water actually comes straight out of the ground.
Starting point is 02:59:23 Now there's a creek. The creek goes down there, joins the ground now there's a creek the creek goes down there joins the other creek and that's the only and i'm sure that water is pure as fuck because it's just like bubbling out of the sand you know yeah but i drank that water out that poured out of the mountain and that was really like it was even cold it was great oh yeah when you can do that and like actually drink from a stream or like that because i've done that too like that shit that's like coming out i did it in colorado where it's like a clean stream coming out of the rock it genuinely is like better water it's like this is like and maybe it's like part
Starting point is 02:59:55 of like being out in nature and like feeling it's cool where it's like oh i'm just like grabbing water from a spring it's so refreshing and you're also being active and it's hot so of course it's that's got to be part of it. I got some $3 a can water downstairs and it probably would taste better if you did a blind taste test. It probably doesn't have the minerals. Lots of times they add the minerals to the water
Starting point is 03:00:17 but the minerals that they add, your body cannot absorb it. It's like natural screen water. The minerals you can't absorb. What's that pretentious-ass water? Perrier? San Pellegrino? Nah, the new shit in cans. Bubbling water.
Starting point is 03:00:33 La Croix? Liquid death? Liquid death, yeah. Do they add it to that, or do they get it from some sort of fucking fancy aquifer? I don't know where that water's coming from, but that's some tasty water. I've got my mini fridge downstairs stacked up. Perrier
Starting point is 03:00:48 and San Pellegrino, that sparkling mineral water, that shit's good. Oh, not sparkling. I'm not going to lie. I do like liquid death. Sometimes I do drink that every once in a while. I saw someone say that sparkling water tastes like static. See,
Starting point is 03:01:03 carbonation is great. If you ever drink it accidentally? I'll spit it out in your fancy face. You serve me bubbly without my permission. Have you ever been to a nice Italian place where they bring you that big glass jug of the sparkling water?
Starting point is 03:01:19 I ask for flat water in every scenario. Yes, I want flat every scenario. I never want sparkling ever, ever, never, ever. It's so stupid and awful. Every now and then a fast food restaurant will fuck up their mix. They're like out of the syrup that makes
Starting point is 03:01:36 Diet Coke, Diet Coke and not club soda that's brown and you'll get that hit of just fucking club soda and it's disgusting. Any movie when someone orders a club soda and it's disgusting any movie when someone orders a club soda i'd rather get i'd rather you spit in my mouth i'd rather you spit in my mouth and serve me a club soda that i have to finish kyle is right about everything he's completely on target with this you're crazy you're both crazy like sparkling water is delicious
Starting point is 03:01:59 especially if it's like a little lemon flavor a refined palate you have i don't think it's like a little lemon flavor. It's a refined palate you have. I don't think it's because I'm a fancy boy. I think it's just the carbonation is great. But I kind of posed it that way and made you defend that point. Now you're framing it that I'm a fancy pants. He's an out of touch Bessorian. You've lost the plot. Now I'm defending being a fancy pants.
Starting point is 03:02:22 I don't know. You're not a, you're not really a common man. You've got these highfalutin ideas up there in Missouri, Missouri up there in the fanciest state. I read up about your fancy state this, this weekend. I learned all good things.
Starting point is 03:02:41 Unless it's obviously Anheuser Anheuser Bush, obviously right there in town. That's, that's where they, they do their business. This, that's not good for us, this whole Bud Light thing. Well, see, the thing is that it seems like the lobbying that they've been doing since, I don't know, what is it, the 1800s? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:56 Y'all have the weakest alcohol laws in the world, maybe? We do, yeah. Even in Korea, they're like, oh, I don't know about that that one you guys you can have an open container as a passenger in a moving vehicle you know insane that is to me dude if you have a if you have a bottle of wine that you went on a picnic and had and it's been hot as fuck in the back seat of your car for six months and they pull you over in georgia you are going to fucking jail oh dude no road sodas if you're a passenger 100 legal in missouri if you're sitting in the
Starting point is 03:03:32 passenger seat you can just drink i don't really know anybody who does that but like you can if you're just riding around with someone your open container laws apparently there just aren't any you can just drink openly anywhere in public, essentially. Yeah, down here, they... We're not strict laws about that. No. They only... We have drive-thru, liquor, and firework stores.
Starting point is 03:03:54 I've seen those. They're glorious. Kentucky has them as well. I think they had liquor, fireworks, and guns at one of them. Yeah, they have ammo there, too. It's like, bro, let's park if we're getting a firearm. Like, we've got time. Dude, Missouri is the land of freedom.
Starting point is 03:04:09 We have the best gun laws. We have the best, like, freest weed laws. We're not like those fucking pussies in Illinois that legalized weed in a way that's, like, not even good. Yeah, and we even have, like, good weed. Because Anheuser, you would think, would fight it to the point where it would just never make it through the legislature. Apparently they did. Wild that they couldn't keep it down.
Starting point is 03:04:29 Yeah, because they're a huge employer here, and I imagine they're going to be doing a lot of layoffs before too long. Do they have legal mushrooms, though, too? No. No, I don't think we have. I think is it Oregon, maybe, that has all
Starting point is 03:04:43 the drugs legal? But I don't know anywhere else that does. They just passed that like a year ago. I think, is it Oregon? Maybe there's all the drugs legal, but I don't know. Yeah. They just passed that like a year ago. I think, well, people could do meth and cocaine. It's like now downtown. If you go downtown and Ben,
Starting point is 03:04:53 you'd be seeing these dudes outside these restaurants. It's fucking snowing cocaine. You'd be like, what the fuck? Oh, do you live in Oregon? Yeah. Bent in central.
Starting point is 03:05:03 Okay. But cocaine is not legal, right? Yeah. Well, it is to X amount. Well, like, this is what would happen. If you get a little bit over, they fine you $80 or something like that. Huh. That's pretty nice.
Starting point is 03:05:17 Have you got yourself a little miniature beaker, it appears. What? What's weird about this? It's like a Stein for ants. Whoa, slow down, Woodyody that's two days of water you're looking at right there look at this guzzling woody selfish woody a water hoarder i got this water from west virginia it's a big effort i'm not gonna guzzle it motorcycle with a office tank.
Starting point is 03:05:46 Have you seen people in Oregon who are on Trank? People don't know Trank is a new drug people are doing. They're combining fentanyl with animal tranquilizers. What the fuck? And so what you'll see, the way you'll know that someone is on Trank, apparently, according to the internet videos that I've seen, they're standing flat-footed but they are bent at the waist all the way down that's like hanging that's here that's everyone
Starting point is 03:06:14 in portland i'm telling you i've seen what kyle saw and and i also have seen that being a tranquilizer fentanyl combo yeah um and the people stand weird they're just he says bent at the waist but i i see it as more like curled in the spine like you know if you were to touch your toes but you're bad at it exactly yeah that's heroin those people are on heroin yeah that's just heroin addicts in portland are you denying either way it could be that too yes they were standing though, not sitting. Look at these two religious folks praying. Get up off your feet, you trank lazies. Tie your shoes. Yeah, heroin is a huge downer.
Starting point is 03:07:00 Animal tranquilizers usually do put you down. Look at that. Didn't even put do put you down. Look at that. Didn't even put the syringe down. Yeah, those pictures are closer to what I saw before. That's such a horrible drawing. Don't fuck with heroin, Jesus. Right, but bent over with two hands down.
Starting point is 03:07:17 I saw sidewalks full of them, like a dozen people like that, and I mean hanging like they're puppets and and completely bent over their hair like there's there's i saw a lot of crazy people and it was philly it was philly i think where i where i saw it every time i see some post-apocalyptic shit it's philly philly's awesome i agree i see portland portland is just as bad. I'm sure. The only thing I've ever – the worst I've ever seen in real life was walking back to our hotel from the – I don't know what they call it, the pier or the wharf in Seattle.
Starting point is 03:07:55 I don't know where they call it. But I saw so many hobos under this covered area. And it was like in the movies when you uncover the vampire's lair and they're all kind of piled up on top of each other and they recoil from the light and they all move so rapidly that you can't tell what part of each one is part of the other yeah it's like we were like an amorphous entity it was the honestly it was the exact night where of the wings 1v1 because me and white boy were and a bunch of other people walking back from eating crab
Starting point is 03:08:27 and I remember that car's lights illuminating this big coven of them. And just be like, that's where they are. Can you show that, Zach, the video that I linked? Is this people leaning? Yeah, it's the pose that i was trying to describe
Starting point is 03:08:46 yeah this is what i was talking about i wanted to show people exactly what it looked like but i was afraid of looking fat so i hunted down the video instead it's oh dude i i wouldn't do that position either like yeah this is called nodding out on heroin. This is fucking sick. In the video's description, it says exactly what I said, and that they are on Trank. Yes, and that is a way to get clicks. It's heroin, because you can go to any other city that doesn't have a story about Trank, and people do this. It's nodding out.
Starting point is 03:09:23 Yeah. Okay. Heroin and fentanyl are often oh yeah similar thing so it could be yeah it's just i when i hear stuff like that i always assume it's like a bath salts thing where it's like are we going to talk about fentanyl again or are we going to get better ratings well what's this thing like yeah i'm with you on the the bath salts popped into my head too you don't know the thing people always need to remember about bath salts, that man who ate the other man's face in Florida,
Starting point is 03:09:48 his blood is clean. Sober as a bird. He ate that man's face sober. Which is the hardest time to eat someone. The hardest. If I'm going to eat someone, I want to be fucked up. I want to be really. I want to wake up in the morning and be like,
Starting point is 03:10:04 why do I feel so full and be like oh i need a beer to wash that face down i need a nose if i'm gonna swallow some man i need a beer yes i would hate to eat taylor's face yeah i wouldn't want to eat my face that beard out of my is it like a who's that guy is it. Is it like a very coarse beard? It's a very coarse beard. What's that guy from... You know what I'm talking about. I know exactly from...
Starting point is 03:10:33 Do you want the character's name or the actor's name? He talks like that. He has his entire face eaten. He's the pedophile. I would say Jake Paul wins. He's on a better diet. He's not limited to Romanian prison macros.
Starting point is 03:10:50 He doesn't have a speech impediment. He's not pushing 40 years old. How old is Andrew Tate? 40? I thought we were talking about Diaz and Paul. I think he's saying Nate. Oh, Diaz. Nate Diaz is Paul. I think he's saying Nate. Oh, Diaz. Yeah, Nate Diaz is 38.
Starting point is 03:11:07 Wow. He got older when I wasn't looking. Yeah, man. I saw a clip of the... I don't know if it was Nate or Nick Diaz. They look so similar. But it was on the street of Brazil or wherever the fuck they're from. And it was this dude who clearly was just trying to like
Starting point is 03:11:26 fight and antagonize him i imagine that happens to them all the time this dude was like throwing real punches at him like if he hadn't moved he would have been nick diaz or nate diaz would have been hit and you see like the diaz brother like back up and that like very responsible like i'm a weapon style and he he kicks he leg kicks the guy in a way that like i would think as a viewer like whatever and the guy immediately immediately oh if that if 50 and immediately starts limping and nate diaz even like retreated like turned around and like kind of jogged it up away to make it clear on camera like i'm not the not the guy here. Like I'm trying. And like, Oh,
Starting point is 03:12:06 that's his body. It's a black man, isn't it? Red shorts. Yes, it is a black guy. They're friends, but,
Starting point is 03:12:11 but, but to, to completely make your point stick and stay the way it was. I saw him at Mardi Gras, choke a random dude the fuck out and drop him in the street. Like he was trying to attack. He attained him like Woody did white boy, not off the ground. Cause he's, you know, he didn't teamed him like Woody did White Boy, not off the ground, because he
Starting point is 03:12:25 didn't want to kill him. It's crazy. It's irresponsible. Woody. I could do it again. I'd watch again. Hands off. Welcome to White Boy. It's Evan Street.
Starting point is 03:12:43 Today, we are doing the 30 minute nuke and everyone be like wow that's so brave alex give him lots of subs because he's fucking retarded now if you had retarded white boy that would have been shitty that would have been shitty. That would have sucked. No more dolphin dives for him. Like that one. So this guy was not a friend of his. This is him choking this fucker out. Yeah, he dropped him in the street.
Starting point is 03:13:12 Left him like that. And this is a real guy who was trying to fuck with him, not a friend, obviously? Yes, this is a random dude on the street. I thought it was Mardi Gras, but it's that kind of environment. It's like bars on both sides of the street kind of thing. How dumb do you have to be to
Starting point is 03:13:25 tussle with a professional fighter? I'm not sure he knew who he was at all. I don't want to fight anyone in public. I mean, you don't want to fight anyone at all, really. I think I would run if I
Starting point is 03:13:41 could most of the time. Taylor's like, how dumb do you have to be to tussle with a professional fighter? And I'm like, yeah, that broken hand took weeks to heal through surgeries. It's a mistake. I should have known. And you did that to yourself, right? Oh, no, he did a thing to it. That's right.
Starting point is 03:14:00 I remember now. Yeah, he did a – it was a move that typically is just a pain move, i didn't tap they call it the hand crippler what he should have tapped or something i don't know i should have tapped that's very shitty to do a pain move to someone who's like way lower than you at that level like it's that's that's genuinely like a piss poor etiquette it shows lack of character like we've used the example before if i if i'm literally teaching kyle how to ice skate and i fucking check him into the boards i'm a prick i'm a douchebag i just destroyed trust i have with him and if anything kyle should be out there thinking this is kind of not my thing but it's making like i'm learning something at least like
Starting point is 03:14:41 we're having a little bit of fun can you imagine that betrayal to go hey here you are trying something with me that i know you're way better at and you stab me in the back like no that's very i didn't see it through that lens but i could see how you would i i just he should see it through that lens you gotta keep in mind this is danny right or somebody was it the asian kid this is joe broke the hand. His brother is the one that elbowed me in the head, which I didn't like. And then the Asian kid kicked your legs real good. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad I never asked to go to fight camp up there at Joe's house. They would have beat me to death.
Starting point is 03:15:17 Jesus Christ. Dude, that's like going that hard on someone who's trying to learn is pathetic. The Asian guy, his name's andy korean raging korean or something maybe was his fighting name but uh he was the only one that i well him and danny i thought went too hard on me uh i was just out of my league and yeah could do anything they wanted to me yeah leg kicks in particular i mean i'm glad he's not gay right you'd be and i'd be sodomized nothing i could do yeah you couldn't stop him you couldn't stop him and some people go bite him you really want to piss him off yeah right he was hard before now he's furious
Starting point is 03:16:02 he was a little loving at first and then i bit first we were talking a bit about the the oregon drug stuff i wanted to know john i think you're like very anti-drug but have you messed around with any weed mushrooms if you're somewhere where it's legal or just no interest oh so i have tried weed in the past um i don't do it personally because i basically die so for example i tried a gummy one time like 10 milligrams i ended up throwing up for like 10 hours straight um jesus christ yeah, so I stay away from it. I think I'm allergic to some of the cannabinoids or something like that. So me personally, I can't do it or I will get sick usually. Yeah, some people just don't drive or they get stressed out.
Starting point is 03:17:01 The first time I ever smoked, I got violently ill and swore it off for years. Look at me now. Just really enjoying it. Look at him now. High as a kite. All the time. All the time. What about you guys? What's your view on that? I smoke weed, but I am
Starting point is 03:17:21 pretty scared of hard drugs. I have no desire to fuck with anything harder than... What's the hardest drug that you want to try if it was legal? That you would definitely be like, yeah, all right, line me up one of those. Legality isn't really... If cocaine was legal, I don't want to do cocaine. I don't want to do MD&MA ever again. I don't want to...
Starting point is 03:17:39 After we had that guest two weeks on ago, I have no desire to do LSD or mushrooms. Dude, we abused it for years. He's crazy. So this is what I would say, too. So magic mushrooms, they can actually be extremely good for you. So, for example, it makes new narrow pathways, okay? And a lot of people, someone I personally know, so he's like 60 plus years old and his wife is 60 plus years old too, okay? And she had dementia and she had Parkinson's where you shake a lot.
Starting point is 03:18:17 And he did a microdose on magic mushrooms. And so she wasn't able to do anything. She wasn't able to eat. She wasn't able to get dressed or even have a talk really. And after a few months of microdosing her magic mushrooms, she was able to talk again. She was able to cook, dress herself and go to the bathroom by herself, all kinds of things. And I think a big part of that reason why is because usually as people get older, neural pathways gets shut down, closed off, and magic mushrooms, they make new neural pathways, which can help out a lot.
Starting point is 03:18:51 So I think if you use it responsibly, it can be extremely good for you. Obviously, if someone's using acid or LSD or magic mushrooms in high doses on a regular basis, it's probably not that beneficial for you at that point. It probably sounds like an addiction. You're going to break your brain. Yeah. I think if you use it responsibly, it can be helpful for a lot of people.
Starting point is 03:19:14 I know people who have gotten off of SSRIs because they switched to microdosing mushrooms, which is like, there is no way that's not way better for you than fucking ssris do you remember the guest wouldn't admit the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor it's stuff like prozac well butrin oh we were asking the guest how often he did lsd and
Starting point is 03:19:38 he was he kept talking around the question he's like well you know as much as much as you need you know you gotta therapeutically dose your how much do you do how often and what he wanted like every day for the last 30 years or whatever is what he wants to say or what he can't say the reason like that's why he's fucking weird like that i i feel like he's giving LSD a bad name because I had such a wonderful experience. We had some guy who killed his family on a few weeks ago and he fell asleep.
Starting point is 03:20:13 Jesus Christ. After we got off, I was talking to my girlfriend. I'll tell it this way, that way you'll learn who the guest is too. She said, who was guest tonight? I was like, it was this guy who fell asleep at the wheel and had a car accident and his wife and unborn child were killed. And she goes, oh, so he killed his family.
Starting point is 03:20:34 And I went, oh shit. I didn't even think about it like that until you just phrased it that way. I didn't think about it like that until you texted me later that night that I was like, oh, that's a, that's a horrible way to's oh it's it's one of the sad oh even that it was the 364th day of their um of their relationship or their marriage i can't remember which their marriage it was their and she died on their anniversary pregnant with their child yeah so then the guy um just did lsd and and mushrooms and other drugs to try to deal with the guilt and everything else from that but he's he was wacky he had he had hurt his brain clearly yeah if you do too many of those psychedelics you really do fuck yourself i i know
Starting point is 03:21:18 the i mentioned him on the show the fire poi guy that I used to know back in the day. That dude has really messed with himself through enormous doses of mushrooms and LSD. That shit is true. That like if you do a fuck ton of that stuff for a long time, you literally enter your own world where you are incapable of articulating your inner thoughts in a way that's cohesive to anyone but yourself. Yeah, that doesn't like and you're just like you're just like relaying subjective experiences in your brain in a way that like and all of it comes down to like well you haven't experienced it so you won't get it it's like well but if you're an expert in this you should be able to articulate it in a way that i can garner what you're saying like as someone who hasn't experienced it describing marijuana and opiates and things like that, highs like that right afterwards, I always feel like, or even alcohol, after the high goes away, I'm like, ooh, I want to do that again.
Starting point is 03:22:11 I want to make it that strong again. Let's see how much it takes. And that's a bad thing. But with LSD, the next day I was thinking, oh, man, that was wonderful. They say it takes a full month to get my brain chemistry right so that i'll have the same wonderful experience again i don't want any diminishing returns from this and i was fully happy to have to wait however long it took at least a month like i didn't feel like i could be addicted do you build the tolerance to ketamine something interesting like so they
Starting point is 03:22:41 call you susceptible to new ideas right like you're reprogramming your head and you like it's yeah depression or whatever it is your mission is and they call it neuroplasticity right which basically is just an open to new ideas and you take it every week on a schedule and the idea is that you know you just spend the next five weeks or so open to new ideas and it's supposed to be somewhat lasting and and you're impressionable so just reminded me of that when kyle said it takes a month to fully reset like oh okay yeah on ketamine they use that to their advantage yeah makes sense yeah i i loved lsd so i just i hated that he he you know he was a kook and he was he was kind of the lsd guy and that was that was so wacky that whole thing
Starting point is 03:23:26 anyway that was that was so fucking funny when you just started fighting with that guy and then woody came back and like didn't know what he came back to and was like oh anyway how about how what what kind of monkeys did you see in costa rica and then he'd be and then woody would like dude that was so funny like i remember woody and i so many times tried to like say something to like come to the table with him where he would be like like what do you be like you you know, but these internal thoughts, they're causing me stress and this and that. And he'd be like,
Starting point is 03:24:07 it's not real. That's not real. And it's like, yeah, but it's real to Woody. And so it's manifesting in his brain and impacting his behavior. So what's more real than that? It's not real.
Starting point is 03:24:20 And it's okay. And it's like, what are we talking about? What are we talking about? Are you calling me a liar? I feel like you're calling me a liar right now. I feel like you're laughing at me. Kyle, you're just fucking smug, you prick.
Starting point is 03:24:34 I feel like there's something to accepting what's around you and being okay with it and at peace. He took that to such an extreme. It was like nothing was ever worth working on just have peace with what is yeah and taylor's like what if you're 200 pounds overweight who's to say what's good and bad just be okay with what you are and it's like but there's self-improvement's a real thing you can improve your your physical health your financial health your like emotional health or like there are things you can work on and get better
Starting point is 03:25:04 and he was just okay with accepting whatever you had do you remember the part where like he literally in one of his monologues was like so maybe you start drinking all the time it's okay you'll get through it maybe you start doing cocaine all the time you'll get through it and i want to be like or you die or you die because you overdose on fucking fentanyl because you thought it was cocaine and it wasn't and you leave behind your family and your friends in a very painful upsetting thing because you did fentanyl on accident like what like it's okay what are you crazy yeah that guy was a kook and i couldn't help but think that we needed to say that he was a kook
Starting point is 03:25:51 lest any of our impressionable wonderful fandom be drawn to the dark side by him and end up in costa rica getting god knows what done to you our fans saw right did you look at the do you look at the comments on that episode our fans saw through it yes yes they were like this dude will not fucking answer how much lsd he takes or like or shit like great how on earth how on earth do you go to costa rica when your wife is threatening to kill your children? Thank God someone mentioned that. That's absurd. I don't read anything. It's good to see that everybody was catching on.
Starting point is 03:26:31 Because when I hear craziness, I'm like, you know, I know that everyone, when they take information in, it doesn't get processed the same way. And so I could imagine some impressionable person nodding along sagely if they're only listening to the audio and they're not seeing me staring daggers into this man's brain, looking for the scars on the side of his head before he banged his skull off the asphalt when he killed his family. Like, that guy had had a severe brain trauma, I guarantee it, and he had abused the strongest psychedelic drugs available to mankind for at least a decade right and and and then you know
Starting point is 03:27:13 i'll let all that go until you insult me i was i could have been a lot meaner i was having some george costanza the joke star called moments like later on that night, cooking fajitas or some shit. Dude, I did, too. But like, then I would think I'm like, oh, that's such a fucking sad story. I'm not going to make so sad. Yeah. I mean, he did it, dude. It's still a terrible story.
Starting point is 03:27:37 We would never do that. If we had our wife or kid or any loved one in the car fall asleep at the wheel, we pull over. It's so irresponsible. You're telling me what a sleepiness came over me he was probably on something when he fucking wrecked like based on what i know about him that's probably what fucking happened i wonder if they checked his blood alcohol content where they checked his blood for drugs who knows what he was on when he fell asleep at the wheel how do you follow i've drowsy driven by myself i'll admit it but i don't do it
Starting point is 03:28:04 anymore i pull the fuck over or i get out and get coffee by myself i'll admit it but i don't do it anymore i pull the fuck over or i get out and get coffee or throw some water in my face i wait to fuck up i don't and yeah he did that with his family in the car you wouldn't do that and you wouldn't go to costa rica afterward you couldn't drag me to costa rica with that man he's gonna take you off in the wilderness and some weird shit's gonna go down because he's gonna hear all the stuff i said about him the early part of that episode where like he was I like tried to establish he was an expert
Starting point is 03:28:30 in anything and I was like so you're not just taking novices to Costa Rica and giving them 7 grams of mushrooms are you and he's like no that's exactly what I'm doing and it's like oh okay
Starting point is 03:28:44 that's kind of sketchy you think that's exactly what I'm doing. And it's like, oh, okay. That's kind of sketchy. You think that's sketchy, John? Put it so well. Let me tell you the best part of it and fast forward. So one of his patients, this is a married man with two or three children. His wife says, I have a gun. It's hidden in the house because I'm thinking about killing you and out on all of our children that's what i'm thinking about honey she says that to her husband her husband goes to our
Starting point is 03:29:12 guest and says yes i better go with you to costa rica for a week and do seven or eight grams of uh uh mushrooms and he does yeah what the fuck yeah and he i remember him but it worked as like and in the end the kids didn't get killed and it's like that has nothing to do with your trip to cost Rica. Yeah. Nothing. Not even tangentially related. The wife was bluffing. I remember when we came back around to that story and I kept being like I kept basically just laying
Starting point is 03:29:56 it out like we just did. Yeah, you're a smug ass. Being exasperated by it. And him accusing me of calling him a liar and making the story up. And what I should have said is, sir, why would anyone make that story up about themselves? Do you realize what a loon you look like if everything you just said is true? That's what I should have said. But it didn't come to me at the time.
Starting point is 03:30:18 What I said was like, no, I believe you. Although this is the third time you've acted like I'm calling you a liar. So now I'm starting to not believe you a little bit like you're fucking crying bust out protest too much i think i mean you have to believe that story because it's so not helpful in proving any point he made that like if he were to if he was going to make up a story he would make up one that makes any sense at all. What do you know? If that is your best story, how helpful it is.
Starting point is 03:30:49 I'm going the other way. I think he's cool. Yeah? You and him should do a little... You don't like mushrooms. What if Woody and that guy had their own little 30-minute little once-a-month podcast where they checked
Starting point is 03:31:05 in with each other and what he told his ketamine stories and that guy told his recent criminal adventures it is just it's two people entirely talking past each other the entire time there's no conversation strangers in the night just dude ships in the night just. I had a hard time getting him to answer anything. Like, I was curious. All right. For all his faults, he's a subject matter expert on these psychedelics, or at least, you know, from a user perspective, not a doctor perspective. And I wanted to hear, like, what's your approach? What's your setting?
Starting point is 03:31:38 What do you do? When you guide novices through this, are you on drugs or are you the sober person there sort of like just coaching everyone i couldn't get answers or really questions out during that he dominated the airwaves he was in yeah his brain was ruined his brain was ruined because of the drugs look i love drugs but but but enough is enough at some point goddamn dude like you're ruined you can't carry on a conversation anymore you're i think i i wonder what i don't all right sorry he was on drugs during the show so we don't know what sober him is like maybe it's coherent he was uh hold up didn't you guys said he's been on it for 30 plus years or is that a different guy we don't really know he wouldn't tell us exactly how
Starting point is 03:32:22 if he was off of drugs he might be even more crazy because he's dependent on it yeah i think zach's correct too it's what i've been thinking as well that he hasn't been sober since his wife died uh i remember him saying he did dmt well i mean that's just our presumption i think but right that's crazy it's like that's that'd be a long time to go. It seems likely. He seems to have a never-ending supply of hallucinogens. Maybe. But where?
Starting point is 03:32:52 Where? Where does someone have it? You could have hooked up with him. You could have been your guy. Yeah, that guy was scary. Don't fucking ride shotgun with him. If you do go to Costa Rica, don't fucking hop in the car with him. That's all I'm saying fucking
Starting point is 03:33:07 hop on the back of a motorcycle who do you guys think is going to become the next president oh look I have some outstanding bets I said it was going to be Trump a year or so ago I'll stand by them when he it seems like he'll lose not Trump and not Biden
Starting point is 03:33:24 I don't care what the polls not Biden I don't care what it's gonna be Gavin Newsom I don't care what that's your prediction or your hope no it's my prediction it's gonna dream Biden is gonna be ushered out because he has fucking dementia and then they're gonna bring in and I think the most popular left-leaning person nationally is that guy right the the California governor? Yeah, so I'm only halfway with you. I think that Gavin Newsom will be the next president if Biden dies, which he might. Biden can't run again.
Starting point is 03:33:55 He's just too senile, too old. No, they're announcing it, but he'll drop out and they'll put someone more palatable up there. That was my guess as well, but we'll see. I mean, it's up to him in the end. We'll see what he wants to do. You think it's up to Joe Biden? Let's not get into a conspiracy theory in the middle of this.
Starting point is 03:34:12 Let's just talk about what we think is going to happen. No, that's not a conspiracy theory. He's a senile old man. He's the president. It's up to him if he wants to run again. He can say, I'm running, god damn it, and they'll have to line up behind him. I don't even think they might run damn it, and they'll have to line up behind him. I don't even think he might win again.
Starting point is 03:34:27 They will. They have to. They're about to. I think we're going to see it. Not if they find someone better. I think they're going to pivot to Gavin Newsom because he's way more palatable. He's smarter. Anyone is better on the mic than Joe. I bet that Joe Biden
Starting point is 03:34:43 runs for President of the United States and he is the Democratic nominee. I bet Joe Biden is going to win and he's going to be a Republican this time around though. A real wild card pick over there.
Starting point is 03:34:59 He steals Trump's nomination in the general and then he switches back to Democrat and he doesn't have to go up against like, fuck, this is like a magic card, like a reverse combo. Infinite vote glitch. I'm both encumbrance. I vote for me. Both for Biden or Biden. Did you see Marjorie Taylor Greene with the pictures of Hunter Biden?
Starting point is 03:35:26 Do you know what I realized or who I realized she looks like so much is she has a very Ron Perlman skull. You don't want to change off this topic. So does my dog. Really? Yeah. So there was a weaponization of the government committee hearing and Marjorie Taylor Greene, this camera's there as being the crazy version of her and they're talking about hunter biden's tax evasion which he's pled guilty to and paid the fines and somehow she brings up like pretty much revenge porn photos of him with like two whores uh go ahead kyle so here's her justification I love when I don't know if she was a lawyer
Starting point is 03:36:06 I don't know what she was her justification was he wrote off the funds he paid that hooker with to make that porn that's the money that the I don't know
Starting point is 03:36:21 Marjorie Taylor Greene oh Marjorie taylor green she's holding she's holding the poster up of him and and she has i she first she had text that proved what she was saying i skipped over that i didn't care then she had at least two poster boards each of them had at least two to three scenes of hunter biden having sex with this woman and and she's used black bars to block out his cock and and all the faces and it is hilarious she starts with this and wait is that photoshopped or is that real that's real and then she starts flipping and dude it's it's very graphic you see all of him except for his dick and his face and she's on her knees sucking him and then she's got her hands out like he's like like she's she's like presenting well this is
Starting point is 03:37:11 helpful well i i don't think we should show exactly what she showed even though i don't think we should show a prostitute sucking hunter biden's dick on the show well she censored it with black bars taylor i'm saying you know i don't think we can show even the black bars though it was very revealing i saw what's going on with i don't follow any of this what's going on with hunter biden now that did the same shit same thing so what's going on is there are people from the irs that said that they weren't allowed to fully investigate hunter biden's taxes and don't know what's true don't know how credible they are, whatever, but that's what's happening.
Starting point is 03:37:48 Usually they say that because it's all above board and you're not going to find anything. Well, they haven't found anything. There's no evidence, but it might be true. We'll see. Maybe there'll be some evidence. But she kind of just dragged in the revenge porn photos to embarrass him and
Starting point is 03:38:03 put on a show because she's more of a theater person than a politician. That's the kind of politician I like. I like a politician that's got... There's a certain kind of politician that is almost auditioning for roles
Starting point is 03:38:20 in the media post-political career and not really proposing bills and trying to govern. They all either get a job in media or they are like Nikki Haley and they get a board position at Boeing for $2 million no-call, no-show jobs afterward because they make favorable calls
Starting point is 03:38:40 towards those companies while they're in office. I'll agree. They often have shady post-politics careers, but they don't all not focus on governing and focus instead on trying to get as much attention and sort of make themselves
Starting point is 03:38:56 reality stars. I think so little of these people. I like props. AOC, MTG. Who even is the House of Representative person for St. Louis? I don't know them. No, I couldn't tell.
Starting point is 03:39:11 Gun to my head, I have no idea. Nobody knows. Marjorie Taylor Green is something special up there showing revenge porn of Hunter Biden on television. Who's 13? He was guessing that St. Louis had a bunch. It wouldn't be 13. The whole state.
Starting point is 03:39:26 How many do we have? I think we have 11. For the state. 10 or 11 in the state. St. Louis probably. I'm making it up. Maybe three. 13 too many? Because you said for the city. I was asking for the city. Oh, the city.
Starting point is 03:39:40 They probably have more than one. St. Louis is one of those cities that gets less when they reevaluate over the years. Because the city property is separated. city yeah yeah they probably have one st louis is one of those cities that like gets less when they reevaluate over the years because the city property separated the murder rate no it's because the city proper is separated from the suburb people don't know st louis suburbs incredibly nice wonderful place to live the city i had a question um i don't know if you guys saw i don't know if this is real or not, but I saw something about Michigan possibly passing a law about misgendering people. And if you misgender them, it could be considered violent.
Starting point is 03:40:13 I don't know if it's true or not, but have you guys heard anything about that? In Michigan? I haven't heard about that. If it is, I don't like it because that's not very free speech. Yeah, I don't think we have to worry about anything like that. That sounds like Canadian stuff with the compelled speech. That's what Jordan Peterson was so upset about, if you remember. I do.
Starting point is 03:40:34 I have not seen anything from that guy before. According to Newsweek, it's probably unconstitutional. I wasn't aware of it either. It doesn't look like it's unconstitutional it's just proposed yeah if it's about like what you can say you know that's unconstitutional but i guess they already control what you can say in a lot of ways yeah there's some ways you're like you're not allowed to do hate speech and then where the line for hate speech begins and ends is tricky yeah i think it's not really really the Constitution that it's five tech companies' terms of service that dictate the ability to communicate in free public now.
Starting point is 03:41:13 It's not really the Constitution. Well, Twitter seems to be a bit more free-ish as of late, right? I agree with both of you. I think the hate speech is free speech. It is. Yeah. You don't need free speech to protect popular shit. Hold on.
Starting point is 03:41:31 I think they do have, they have it on there so you can't say sorts of things. Like if you call someone a slut, you would get in trouble for that on Twitter, I think. Well, that's just an insult, really.
Starting point is 03:41:44 But what if they were a slut though? Is it an insult or is it facts but what if they wore a slut though is it an insult well checkmate yeah i do like that about your your twitter john i i see it and when girls tweet at you in a way where they're trying to get attention from you you just block them you don't respond to women on social media you say that's not for me i'm not interested is that something you the only so i do respond to some it depends on what we're talking about for example if it's business related i would talk to them without doubt they know something i don't know like if they know something like let's say they got two million dollars because a specific career path they've done, obviously they know something I don't know. In this scenario, a girl knows more than a boy?
Starting point is 03:42:31 Come on. He's a humble guy. He's a top J. He goes for information anywhere that it's found. No, I'm not buying it. If someone has $2 million, they obviously got it somehow. And if they didn't have it before their career, within two years, they got $2 million.
Starting point is 03:42:43 Let me tell you how to find a sick old man. Total morons can be multimillionaires. I assure you. No, that is true. Which is why I like to find out exactly what they have to talk about. And I'm pretty good at digging into information and finding if it's bullshit or if it's true.
Starting point is 03:43:02 And if it's true, you know, I like to find out myself, Taylor, what do you think about running some sort of nursing home scam? Like where we go in there and what I'm thinking is we go around, we find some of the old people
Starting point is 03:43:14 who are not liking the way things are ran there. We see if we can get them all to say that maybe at night things happen. Maybe they happen, maybe they don't. But the old folks are saying they happen, you know? And we cook up a little evidence. Maybe they happen, maybe they don't, but the old folks are saying they happen. And we cook up a little evidence. Like Better Call Saul, but more sinister.
Starting point is 03:43:30 Yeah, we make up the abuse and stuff. It never happened. Where's the payoff? What do we get? Well, we'll sue. We'll sue. We're going to be part of the suit. We're going to get involved with that.
Starting point is 03:43:41 Okay. Dude, I don't even think we'd have to make shit up. There's a million videos of like old guys having like in a nursing home having to have their bedding changed and then some attendant beating the shit out of them there's there's a ton of those videos so we can just find one of those videos reverse track it well that just sounds like i mean how else are they gonna learn right that's like no i don I don't. I don't think you should be doubtfully people. I feel like Taylor's against educating the elderly,
Starting point is 03:44:09 which is a kind of ageism. It is. You need to educate them. Spare the rod, spoil the boomer. The grandma. Spare the rod, spoil the boomer. Here's what you got to do. I hit my elders with a stick
Starting point is 03:44:24 no wider than my thumb to make sure that I'm disciplining them correctly. I would allege they were making the old lady use a litter box or something from the crazy like that. We can go along with this. I feel like we could really make some cash. It's so fucked up. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 03:44:38 Her poor knees are all fucked up so she can't even squat over enough. She's spraying her old lady shit all over and then you're like getting mad at her for doing it yeah I don't like this scenario I invented it's upsetting to me but I do like your idea yeah so everybody likes the old I have a question for John so you
Starting point is 03:44:57 have you done the training at Hustler University yeah I have yeah what's it like um so in a sense most of that information you can find on the internet i will say that is true because a lot of people do talk about it i just like how easy it is to have all the information at one spot so i don't have to sift through you know different websites and youtube accounts to find all the good courses
Starting point is 03:45:25 did you take um i've done crypto on there what hustling uh drop shipping and a couple other things what was i missed before drop shipping i said crypto and uh drop shipping crypto and dropshipping. Crypto and dropshipping courses? And then I looked at a couple other ones, but I haven't gone in depth. How much is a course? I believe if you want to sign up for Hosser University, it's $50 a month, I believe. That's what I thought. And does that get you unlimited courses? Yeah, it gives you everything that's in there.
Starting point is 03:46:03 Okay. What are the courses made up of? Is it kind of like a college course where you log into a portal and then there's like a slideshow with a quiz at the end, that kind of thing? So, yeah, there's a lot of test taking. If you don't pass the test, you don't get to move on. So you have to pass the test usually. And then sometimes they do live streams
Starting point is 03:46:26 when the people that's teaching the course would go on and answer questions and stuff like that. I think it's actually pretty good. Okay. What would you say is... Did you try it? Did you try dropshipping? Did you try crypto?
Starting point is 03:46:39 Yeah. So I didn't try crypto from what they've done. I made my younger brother do that and he's actually pretty good at it. Um, I have tried drop shipping and I'm going to be honest. If you're going, if you're trying to find how to make a drop shipping website,
Starting point is 03:46:54 like on YouTube, it's going to take you 10 times longer for success. This university, I was pissed. I made my website before Hushers university, before I signed up and I got on there, and I looked at the dropshippers, like, are you fucking kidding me? They give you the answer
Starting point is 03:47:09 white seal, and it took me, like, hours and hours to find something simple how to fix, you know, part of the website on YouTube. So I just like how convenient it is. They literally have every information you need for whatever course you're learning.
Starting point is 03:47:30 I think it's a lot easier. Like, if you try and make a dropshipping website, I highly recommend doing it at the University because they teach you everything you need to know. Do they give you, as far as dropshipping, do they have a specific company that they're looping you in for your fulfillment or no okay like they they recommend uh what's it called shopify you don't have to do shopify though like uh and then for example like let's say the products they give you multiple options really good ones but you know you know, before, like if you're trying to do drop shipping, there's not that many people you could really
Starting point is 03:48:10 go. If you're trying to get cheap products, like usually if you're trying to get cheap products, it's usually China. If you're trying to do something more advanced, which is what I did at first, before I did Hostess University, I found a local company in the States to drop ship their products, not realizing their products is just Chinese products. Anyways, it's just assembled in the States. That's like 90% of the stuff. The stuff you find on Amazon, for example, a lot of the stuff you find on there, you can find it for a tenth of the price on like olibaba or something like that and obviously the shipping is going to take longer but if you're trying to save money tenth of the price is a tenth of the price yeah yeah yeah so you are you still a member of hustle university
Starting point is 03:49:00 or now that you've taken the courses you're interested in, you're dipping out? No, I'm currently still a member because they do add on new courses every week. Not every week, my bad. Every X amount of period of time they add on a new course. For example, just the other day on July 15th, or it might have been the 14th actually,
Starting point is 03:49:19 they released AI and how to use AI to make cartoons or animate in short videos and how to profit off of that. Do you have access to the account now and you could read us the classes he's offering? I don't know if I could. I might get kicked out for that. I know there's lots of real rules. He'd kick you out of the university?
Starting point is 03:49:40 I might. I know when you sign up, there's a whole bunch of different rules and like that kind of sucks other universities let you know which classes are available yeah they let you know what classes are available I can read you the courses
Starting point is 03:49:57 in great detail probably not yeah yeah obviously the content is yeah the content is definitely we don't want that for free we just want to know like like pussy eating what what like what kind of stuff is he bullshit i've had sex for a long time if the female orgasm was real i'd have seen it by now that's getting goddamn right what his wife has assured him there's no such thing? That it's bullshit. The clit?
Starting point is 03:50:29 They're like, can't find the clit. The clit, let me tell you, it's a red herring. It's like cow tipping. It's not real. That should be the official position of the show. It's not the G spot that's made up. It's the the show. It's not the G-spot that's made up. It's the clit.
Starting point is 03:50:47 It's not real. They just say that to make you think that you're bad at sex. Exactly. If you could find the clit, you'd be good. But it's not true. They just want you to feel bad about yourself. Yeah. So one of them is crypto, day trading, dropshipping, and then AI.
Starting point is 03:51:07 And there's a few other things on here like about working out and fitness and all that stuff. I believe there's six main ones that you can make money off of. I believe one of them is copywriting. Let me see. What's this other one? There's a couple that didn't strike your do not get into copyright it if they're telling you to do copywriting as money that's not true don't do that okay stop because that one really appealed to me and the reason why is i feel like drop shipping and crypto are like the classic kind of oh Oh, trust me. There's easy money out there.
Starting point is 03:51:46 Copyright. It's not easy money. You gotta know what you're doing. Okay. I hear you, but sort of the meme or like, you know, the,
Starting point is 03:51:54 the pitch is there's easy money, but copywriting, I'd never heard of before. Another one I heard of was with like basic Photoshop skills, you can build corporate logos and there's a market out there. People pay $1,000 for what takes you 20, 40 minutes to do. And I was like, oh shit.
Starting point is 03:52:11 One, I don't have that skill. And it's like, yeah, shit. If you could go to Hustle University, market yourself as a logo creator, maybe there's a business there. And the reason copywriting and logo creation appealed to me is because it's not as widely known
Starting point is 03:52:24 as crypto and drop shipping. Like maybe there's an actual, I do know about copywriting there. Copywriting is super saturated. Any, I have written copy. I can professionally write copy if I need to, for any company that hires me easily.
Starting point is 03:52:39 It's not hard if you're a good writer. The thing is, is that anyone can write decent copy. And now I get competent writing at all. Yeah. If you guys ever heard writer. The thing is, is that anyone can write decent copy. And now, I get to be competent writing it all. If you guys ever heard of this, copy is the words for an ad. Yes.
Starting point is 03:52:52 Yeah. Sorry, I should have said that. Yeah. When you see an article in a catalog, when you hear what we're reading in ads, that's called copy. The description of an item is sometimes called copy.
Starting point is 03:53:03 Like when you click on a t-shirt. I think learning the skill of copywriting is extremely useful if you're doing a drop shipping. Because then you know how to copyright yourself. And then you don't have to go out and pay someone a crazy amount of fees. The skill with copywriting is just writing. And when you're a better writer, you're better at articulating yourself because you can form sentences and thoughts better. When you're a better writer, you're better at articulating yourself because you can form sentences and thoughts better. The thing with being a copywriter pursuing it is that it's so fucking cheap to get someone to write copy for you.
Starting point is 03:53:37 And generally, a company of any major size is not outsourcing copy. They have internal people who are familiar enough with the product or brand to write exactly in the voice that they want. And so the idea that you could just be like, hey, I'm literate. Blue apron. You need copy? They're going to be like, no, that's taken care of. I'm like, no, we're not going to hire you. You're not going to blow Blue Apron's mind with some revolutionary copy
Starting point is 03:53:58 because it's advertising. The thing is, how many times in here do we have to mention the URL? How many times in here do we have to mention the the url how many times in here do we have to say these specific words and not mention this specific word like that's that's how that shit is actually structured and so do not learn copywriting if you're trying to make money because are you gonna anyone who's making logos when that's the same thing it's super saturated you're not going to make money making logos there are a thousand kids on fiverr who can do it just as well as you yeah and any major company that's going to pay thousands of dollars for a logo
Starting point is 03:54:28 is going to use their in-house team yeah correction there's a thousand kids on fiverr who can do it better than me but i only was uh found those ideas appealing because i hadn't heard them before yeah that yeah that that that sets a bell off for me telling people to get into copywriting no no no especially with ai right now ai can already write competent copy already like it's it's already a real i want a real hustlers university that actually teaches you how to commit crimes like like here's some crimes i'd like to know how to commit more more effectively i'd like to rob vending machines. I'm taking burglary 3000. Think about it like this. There's a lot of money
Starting point is 03:55:08 in vending machines. Maybe a couple hundred dollars. No, there's not. Alright, well, you learn as you go, Taylor. We're going to rob vending machines. We've already had a vending machine, like $6. This is why you start somewhere. So you're telling me we're going to have to hit a lot of them.
Starting point is 03:55:24 ATM machines, Kyle. You need to learn to rob ATM machines. No, see, that's federal law. There's a rapper who made a YouTube video, a music video, explaining on how to rob banks by stealing people's credit card information. Like if you really want to learn that, just go listen. I can send you the song. He made a whole music video teaching people how to rob.
Starting point is 03:55:44 You know what might be a good business video teaching people how to wobble. You know what might be a good business, Kyle? It seems really easy. Stealing catalytic converters. They're expensive, and you can get one in two and a half minutes with the Sawzall. Do most cars even have those? All modern cars have them. It's part of the exhaust, a catalytic converter.
Starting point is 03:56:03 Yeah, so I don't know. I thought they stopped putting them on. Oh, it's like the new ones. Maybe I'm right. I mean, the Teslas. Wasn't it used to be like a smelly thing, or maybe they made it not smell bad or something? A catalytic converter removes pollutants from your exhaust, Timmy,
Starting point is 03:56:18 and you see it's very valuable to thieves because of the valuable materials inside. Palladium, platinum, and many other precious metals. Is that really why it's valuable? Goddamn right. Yeah, they're expensive to make. And the internet says all cars after 1974 have them. Okay.
Starting point is 03:56:34 Now, Teslas and such, but let's just say... What are they for? It's the exhaust and... Wait, are you joking? No. Oh, through some kind of magic, when the exhaust passes it it gets cleaner on the other side boom okay yeah no i did that was probably a stupid question i didn't know that
Starting point is 03:56:51 okay yeah yeah so it's a very expensive part of your car that makes your exhaust cleaner and not only that it's back there hanging off like a bull's balls or something it's like you want this because it's go to the back of any car. Oh, is that that huge thing? No, that's the muffler, the big thing in the back. That's for sound. In front of it is a catalytic converter. Okay. It's that tube that's before the muffler, right?
Starting point is 03:57:17 Maybe Zach can pull up a picture. Doesn't it have platinum in it or something like that? It does have platinum. There's a lot of rare metals in there, which makes them expensive yeah on the very back is a muffler there that's a catalytic converter and there's the o2 sensor on it what is the actual amount of money on or maybe you don't know a new one would be like 1200 1500 so i don't know how the stolen market works but probably way a few hundred bucks maybe a couple hundred right you think 250 for that but if you have a sawzall um muffler tubing is very easy to cut through you could get through
Starting point is 03:57:53 it with this with a cordless sawzall and a good blade and a good blade and i really think each cut would take 15 seconds maybe yeah not more than 20. So in under a minute, you've got that thing removed, and you're on your skateboard running away. Where do you go? This car is all over the place. No, no, no. Once I've got it in my hands, do I already have to have a guy? Yeah, that's where Hustlers University comes in.
Starting point is 03:58:20 I don't know how to sell it. Yeah, that's where Hustlers University is. It looks really cool. You have $50,000 worth of catalytic converters and not know what to do with them? Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such criminal enterprises as Carthevery.
Starting point is 03:58:36 Where do I find a chop shop? Yeah. So catalytic converters go bad because they clog up and they're often stolen. So there's a market for them. If you just melt down the
Starting point is 03:58:53 metals, you can sell the metals almost anywhere. Oh, I didn't consider that. But where do you go? Yeah, right. Where do you find a chop shop? Where do you find someone who buys obviously stolen catalytic converters? I feel like i would go up there and they'd see that i didn't know what i was doing and i'd be like hey gentlemen you know what i would do you want a little bit of white china and they're like what are you talking about and i'm like it's like i'm
Starting point is 03:59:18 not so you guys want a catalytic converter sir that's a's a muffler. Fuck, no wonder I've been getting hosed. Here's what you do. You put them on fucking Craigslist in that area and wait for the guys who you just stole them from to buy them back from you. A new Dodge Ram catalytic converter is $3,500 or some shit. Sell them for a grand a pop. You're killing it.
Starting point is 03:59:38 Sir, this can't be yours. It says Kyle right there. I'll put it back on there for you for $1,500. They make guards. They make guards protect them. That I cut fits your truck. What are the odds? I measured it perfect for you.
Starting point is 03:59:54 Fucking tack it in there. That's what we do at Kyle's catalytic converter replacement service. That's what we do at Kyle's recently reclaimed catalytic control. You just sent us a picture
Starting point is 04:00:07 of the old pipes and we come with one perfect. Look at this. You're telling me that this happened today. That's crazy because this has had, you can see it says Kyle on it and I've been like this for years.
Starting point is 04:00:24 Dad has the same number. Sometimes the factories this for years you can buy it has the same number sometimes the factories mix up you can buy these armored plates now to protect your uh catalytic converter it's called i can't it's got a a catchy name it's called like a cat cage or some shit but it's it's like armor plate that goes around huh that's good that's a good sign that they're selling lots of things to protect valuable car parts now i think in major cities people's cars get get robbed all the fucking time the kia robbery my brother's my brother drives a kia and his insurance has skyrocketed yeah like like up 40 50 because of the the kia boys stealing all the kias the one this is
Starting point is 04:01:04 interesting because i really like that it's thought out to just be annoying as fuck. That's $430. I'll make... Fuck you. The one I saw was like metal and it shielded the entire catalytic converter. It made it invisible and sealed to the bottom of the car. I don't see why I don't just cut to both sides. Oh's locked i see so you have to cut the i don't know if i brought a sawzall i can get through that cable right is it that i saw i saw a video the other
Starting point is 04:01:35 day black dude caught a guy cutting his off and he's holding him at pistol point waiting on the cops to show up he thought he was gonna steal my shit fuck you dude it when you look at cars as spare parts so i used to be into off-roading a lot this is a long time ago like more than 15 years ago and uh like i would break a uh a cv joint in my tacoma and it's like fuck this is expensive i can't find them in stock this is an issue but they're sitting all over here they're just parking lots full of tacomas i never did it but it's hard not to think about if you ever would you ever go to the scrapyard and and get a part off an old truck because we would do it all the time if we needed a when we would like we built a 55 chevrolet kind of from scratch and we needed a front end
Starting point is 04:02:21 we went to the scrapyard you got a front end that makes sense i kind of didn't have that skill set like finding a junkyard and dealing with the junker so if you ever want to get into it like like there there'll be you go to a major salvage yard and they'll have pulled all of the primo parts off of everything so if you were if you wanted say a side mirror off an acura that might just be inside on a shelf somewhere the trans all of the transmissions and and like the premium little doodads that are they're in there on a shelf somewhere but you can go out into the fields out there and dig shocks and fucking yeah i thought i would have to go out there with my own jack and remove the tire and make it happen maybe i would that they would help you they'd give you anything you want in my experience
Starting point is 04:03:09 we've done a lot of that like like we would we would go there all the time and get parts for all sorts of things yeah yeah i don't have any experience with that i would just go to autozone and wait for ship you know or i think some of the we've definitely bought transmissions from there before yeah i think a couple of transmissions from there. Rear ends, brake stuff especially. It'll just be lying there. They've already disassembled it off the cars. It's probably a wrap, eh?
Starting point is 04:03:34 Four hours in. Yeah, I can see that. Yes, it is. John, where can everybody find you and your stuff? They can find me on Instagram, BusinessJack2022. YouTube, JonTent. Twitter is JonTentG. And then my website is Streets.com with threes instead of Es.
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