Painkiller Already - PKA 727 W/ Richard Ryan: Has Fishtank Gone TOO FAR

Episode Date: November 23, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKA is 727 with our guest Richard Ryan Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Bluechew, Lock and Load, and of course our merch. We'll talk more about that later. Richard, you're looking good. I hope you're feeling good. Yes. What's new in your world? Did you lose weight?
Starting point is 00:00:14 I have. I'm doing a family fitness challenge thing where collectively we're all trying to hit targets for a turkey truck next week, and we'll average all of our times as a family and then we'll try to beat it next year Maybe March or something like that. So it's like we're not singling one person out in the family like hey you suck You or whatever. It's just like everybody collectively does it does seem like you probably have some Grotesquely fat niece who is gonna be the real opportunity for gains next year right like like Richard's only gonna get 3% faster if he cracks it is but Megan okay Tubby tubs tubs we can cut 10 minutes off your 5k is that the case
Starting point is 00:00:58 Richard what's enough there any little piggies in the family oh yeah well I mean we all live in America right? So that's a statistical probability that some people need to lose some poundage. So that was the thing is like I don't want to single anybody out and give them like there's enough people with body dysmorphia and eating disorders out there I don't want to like contribute to that but but if we could say hey look like what do you want your goal to be? Awesome. Here's how we're gonna do it. We're gonna structure like, you know, what your calorie deficit is a day and like, again, I don't personally
Starting point is 00:01:32 like to do daily caloric allocations. I like a week, because that's easier for me because I can say, Hey, look, I'm being a fat ass today, I'm gonna have some lint chocolate truffles or whatever. And then like, maybe tomorrow I cut back a little bit or something, because it's easier to look at things on a weekly scale than it is daily. Yeah, whatever works.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I do, yeah. And here's another thing. If you do try to do this as a family, I might be busting it here, but whatever. You know, there's all the different calorie tracker apps like MyFitnessPal. Those are absurdly expensive. But if you sign up for, was it Chronometer, using coupon code, Richard, no, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:02:14 If you go to Chronometer, you can sign up as a coach and you get 10 students for free or something like that. So I just signed up as a coach and I allocated my students as my family. And that saves us. Correct. Because I didn't want anybody else to have to. And so but the thing is, is you're not doing you're not having to pay for additional seats until after 10 people. So it came out way cheaper paying the 50 bucks versus 20 times, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:41 seven people or whatever. It's also free. Like I paid for chronometer when I used it to help me cut, but the benefits were pretty mild, if I recall. Yeah, for sure. Maybe it's different now. Yeah, you could definitely use free Chronometer and learn a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I never paid. You never paid? Yeah, we all saw what Kyle looked like. You could achieve good stuff for free. You don't need to pay. You just need to inject every day. But you do need to track. It's like I was, I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:03:13 where my calories were coming from. Like, okay, a plate for dinner for me five years ago that I thought was healthy might've been like chicken, mixed vegetables and like a baked potato. And I would put a pad of butter on the mixed vegetables and one on each half of the baked potato. I wasn't aware. I knew butter wasn't good for you, but I didn't know that those three pads of butter were about equal in calories to the rest of the dinner. And that's the kind of eye opener that chronometer got for me. I was like, fuck, like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Just, wow. And there's a bunch of those. You see these. I knew Thremix was bad, now I know Hal bad. Yeah. Sometimes you can just look at someone, even, hey, stop, is that a Dr. Pepper? What are you fucking thinking?
Starting point is 00:03:56 You know, like, you can do that. But then, like you said, you've used something like Chronometer. And I used it for the first couple months until I sort of had a memory, had it down like new yeah it's just like video games were like that sort of 37 damage you don't want that you know after a while you're just like ah now the DPS and that sucks what is it that's 12 12 DPS how do you not know that already like after a while you know how many how many the you know the
Starting point is 00:04:20 macros of an egg and an apple and all the things that you fucking eat and did you don't didn't you say that you worked with Derek from more plates more dates yeah oh yeah extensive so I soon as you mentioned him I think it was in the last podcast I followed him on Instagram and everything fucking loved the guy and I was like okay I'm gonna try all these different types of proteins and you know I'll mix them with my cold brew in the morning. And so again, fat kid trying to trick myself into like I'm having something, you know, like a Starbucks sugar latte or something.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Right? Yeah. And so, so I was trying to all these different proteins for protein ice cream and everything else. And I saw that Gorilla Mind had a pumpkin spice, like limited protein come out and I bought a tub of it. Oh my god, like I was like, this is so fucking good for like, first thing in the morning, like I'll have it's 130 calories 2025 grams of protein. And it's like I'm having like a sugary drink or something. But it's, it's just
Starting point is 00:05:24 you have a pumpkin spice coffee in the morning, maybe put back with some Uggs and some yogurt. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but he's getting jacked. Yeah, I'm just teasing. It was really, really fucking tasty. I feel like a lot of people could hack that and make a drink like that instead of going and getting a Starbucks or something like that and I and I went to order some more because I was gonna tell my sisters and everyone about it and they were sold out and so I
Starting point is 00:05:52 was like dude I DM Derek I was like hey man like it'd be cool if like you guys like you know you did more of these kind of limited things or whatever but if you you have any more pumpkin spice laying around, let me know. I will fucking buy it. And two days later, I didn't like that motherfucker sent me four things of it. And it was kind of, it was kind of funny because I was like, I didn't give him my address or anything. He put one of those goons on the doc squad to get. I put him up there with like little Debbie. I don't know if I told you that story about little Debbie, but like there there's some fucking ride or die companies and it's it's people who go the extra mile like that that I'm just like, dude, tell me where the bodies
Starting point is 00:06:40 are. I'll help. Like, like, I really appreciate that. Like, so, yeah. Yeah. Derek's great. Uh, we had Derek on the show. What was it last week or the week before or something like that? A few weeks ago, they kind of blend together. Yeah, we had Dick last week and then maybe Derek the week, a week or two before that. I think we did election night alone or election post coverage alone. Um, yeah, Derek's awesome. Uh, and he's just the bro science that he knows. If you send it, I'll ask him something whatsapp and he'll reply with a 10-minute voice message and because he's so knowledgeable about it like He'll he's breaking it down. He's breaking the history of the compound down. He's talking about
Starting point is 00:07:17 Stuff way over my head. Usually I've got Google open next to the voice app and Great guy really loved Eric. Yeah, I want to ask about your family race app and great guy. Really loved Eric. Yeah. I want to ask about your family race. Obviously no judgment to other members of the family, but you have kind of an internal stack ranking. You think are you going to be number one in the fam? Uh, yeah. I mean, my brother-in-law could probably give me a little bit of a run for it. But I like I run every day. So it's one of those things where you know some of my family members are smokers. Megan. If like all my cousins and my extended family were like, Taylor, we're doing a family race. I would be on Travelocity booking a trip within five minutes to be like, oh, fuck, I wish you'd told me.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I can't train and sweat and run and embarrass myself in front of you because I don't want to be... We've said this before. I don't want to be... We've said this before. I don't actually know. Maybe Kyle is pretending to be a spry runner and he's not that spry, but Woody and I are like... We run like orc chitons in Lord of the Rings. Like flat feet, just big old bitch hip swan. That's how we get down. I'm not a good runner. I like not for speed or time. I've always been OK at distance running.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Not a runner for speed or time. The two ways you measure running and not those, not those. He does it for style like Levar. That's where they're. It's like cooking for taste or health. Like you're just like the only thing I've got going for me is, is I'll hang in there pretty good. You know, I usually won't quit.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Like so many times I want to quit when I'm running. I want to just stop. I want to lay down. I want to lay down so bad. It's just the, it's just the public embarrassment. I'm like on the sidewalk, I'd lay down. That won't work. Just keep going.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Just keep going. Don't quit. They'll see you quit. Like that's literally it. Don't quit. Oh yeah. That's why I kept going during like gym class is because like I would have it in my head. Like, I have to be in the top half at least. Did you ever notice like you were kind of phoning it in and then like a true bit again, in high school, like I didn't
Starting point is 00:09:39 have a weight problem at all. I was playing a ton of sports and very active. And then like some actual fat kid would start catching up. And it's like, this is humiliating. Now, if I let fat Eddie over there beat me to the finish line, so you have to kick it up. And then there was always some girl who like kicked everyone's ass seemingly. And that's all she did was run. I hated that. There was nothing worse than running. No, not the girl winning the running.
Starting point is 00:10:04 OK, I don't know about your guys gym class, but like I never I never dreaded gym the way some people did it be like we're playing fucking dodgeball today. Hell. Yeah, this is going to be fun. And then they'd be like newsflash bitch. You're running and everybody's going to see how sweaty you are under your tits after.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So we did. How much running did you do in gym? Probably once a month. We'd have to go out there and do running and like shuttle and stuff. But OK, so it was mostly games. So my whole week of it for the presidential test thing. Sorry. We I just want to add before the topic.
Starting point is 00:10:37 We ran every day as freshmen and once a week afterwards. Yeah. And weightlifting, we did like maybe two two laps half a mile a day every day But that and then we go with weights. Yeah or in but in regular gym I think we do do like a legit warm-up jog around the basketball court like around the perimeter of the basketball court And then we'd like I don't know we play volleyball or dodgeball all day That's all we did or we go into like I don't know like two weeks out of the year You had to go in that little room
Starting point is 00:11:05 and learn how penis worked. Yeah, and and Fizz Ed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jim Jim Fizz. Did you do that? You didn't do that. The coach didn't. Well, it wasn't like keep the pants on.
Starting point is 00:11:15 This is natural, bud. No, I think it was like like health and health and I don't know. Like there was like a cooking kind of I don't know. I like home. Home. There you go. You didn't know like there was like a cooking kind of I don't know like home ec there you go you didn't have that yeah no one quarter a year we didn't do gym we did health instead oh interesting we did have the physical fitness challenge so the the arnold thing we did too is that still around I wonder no I think they phased that out it's coming back maha it was clinton when I was in school arnold did one huh wasn't it cl Clinton that did the presidential physical? Maybe there's just always a presidential physical fitness test
Starting point is 00:11:50 But when I think was president when you remembered it, that's that's what it is No fitness Implement this this couldn't be because I was seven It's genuinely what happened I was seven and they like, President Clinton has a challenge for you boys. And we're like, what does he need from us, sir? What could I do for the big man? Well, Clinton needs me. He's going to need to do chin ups.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I got three in me, sir. I think I probably, I probably did three, you know, chin ups are one of those things and like, and running was too. Three. I think I probably did three, you know? Chin-ups are one of those things, and running was too, it's like, why do we wait till this day of the year to ever attempt a chin-up? I'm like, we've never tried one of these before in this class, and now we're gonna test one of them?
Starting point is 00:12:36 But when I work out, when I first started doing chin-ups, it's like, first you can barely do any, and then, but after three or four months, you're cranking regular chin-ups out like like without steroids even like like Running like that too. I can remember being like like the first day we'd run I'd just be dead But then by like a week into it's like oh Half-mile is nothing half-mile jogs. Nothing. I can do that every day. I'll be deal. Did you guys get ribbons?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Because we got no no we got you rock I can do that every day. It's not a big deal. Did you guys get ribbons? Cause we got ribbons. No, we got straw. We'd get a blue ribbon if we can, cause they had like, they had a broken down- Presidential and national. Pull ups, push ups, sit ups. Yeah. And it was like, you're, you hit like the top echelon, you get a blue one.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You hit the middle, you get a white one and you, you do your best, you get a red one. And so like, I remember like, to getting like a blue or whatever and pull. I was always really good at the pull up one. And so every year in grade school, I'm like, yes, my chance. And then my coach would give me the blue ribbon and I'd be like, yeah, we're probably NHL bound. Definitely translates into professional.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Meanwhile, it's like agility testing fucking reds. Yeah, not good. Take out the space. I'm not very spry at all. I remember the presidential fitness test, like I said, maybe when I was seven or eight, but I also remember Relay for Life. Did you all do that at all? No, there's some kind of a charity or some kind of partnership called Relay for Life.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And I think the more miles we ran in school, somehow that equated to like dollars for cancer patients or something like that. I think a charity had agreed to that. And instead of just juking the numbers for the good of the world, they made us run. I think that's what happened. I do remember you could either read or you could run was part of the deal as well. And like, like one lap was like a was five points, let's just say. But one short book, like a really short book, like one of those thin fuckers
Starting point is 00:14:42 about dinosaurs, also five points. And if you get like a Laura Ingalls Wild wilder book like a like a big like 500 page book there's like 40 points oh yeah i'm not running and it's honor system too it's like did you read the boxcar children and the mystery of the no it is not to run eight laps then to no no no no like after you read the book you had to go to the computer and you had to take a test about that book You had to answer 20 how screwed would that be if you if you got the test wrong and you read like one of the long books It would let you retake it I remember all this so well I wanted those points so bad They had a big chart where they were keeping track of everybody's with stars and shit when you ran a mile I remember they would give you a straw
Starting point is 00:15:26 every lap so that you couldn't lie about how many laps you've done. So who donated to this? I don't remember. I remember soliciting donations for this kind of thing. And people didn't like it. And now as an adult who understands money, I totally get it.
Starting point is 00:15:41 It's like, hey, would you, how much do you wanna donate for every pin I knocked down in bowling? I don't know, here's $5, fuck off. I don't wanna guess what your bowling score is gonna be. Like. Are you trying to like three card Monty me right now by being a good bowler and pilfering, you know, $50 out of my pocket for a strike?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Fuck you. Is it one game? Like, I don't know how this works, but like, I don't want some, I don't want you to come around with an invoice six weeks from now with some unknown amount that I suddenly owe you because I pledged a dollar. You have to go talk to Jackie. Jackie I'm under water on this bowl. We're gonna have to sell that house homeschool the kids. Yeah, I just remember back to school and those kind of activities. Do you guys remember how good the bookmobile smelled?
Starting point is 00:16:32 I don't know about a book. I don't know. We had a book fair. They were courting off an area and like library book fair. Yeah. We had that too. But you guys, you guys didn't have the bookmobile. No, it was so funny because they would like the teachers. I'd be like five in kindergarten and the teachers would be like, the bookmobile's here today and they would like they would lead up to it. So like it comes on a Friday and they're talking about it every week and you're
Starting point is 00:16:54 like five or six. And so like you're getting amped. And then you get to the bookmobile and you're like, fuck it. It is just books. Up until that point, I was not sharing this experience. I do remember everyone else getting amped. Everyone being like, we're three days from Bookmobile. Like it's fucking coming, like Christmas. Like, you know it's just books, right?
Starting point is 00:17:18 You know, like this is the worst holiday ever. I mean, that was pre-social media though too. It was, this was the mid 90s. And so like, but the books on the bookmobile were often worse than the books in our school library. So I'd like go there and be trying to find something good and it'd be like, you know what? I'm gonna go read that picture.
Starting point is 00:17:36 How did you have money? Book that shows cross sections of giant ships. I'm gonna go. How did you even have money for the books? Your parents had a letter to send you to school with cash or something. No, it was like a renting thing. Like you would get it and that sounds like the Bookmobile slowly started to sound like one of those things they do in the Appalachian mountains
Starting point is 00:17:56 for impoverished corners of mountain communities. Neither of us live there. So he's from Missouri. Fact check wrong. Missouri. No word. I'm in. Missouri. No word. I'm in one of the Missouri parts. So I am outnumbered by the Missouri folks. It's one of the best readers in St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Oh, you tell me any name or word. I'll read it. Name word. I'll tell you if I recognize it. I know that one. I know that one. I know that one. I know that one. Do you know this word?
Starting point is 00:18:28 We're close. Yeah. I typed it in. Kyle knows it? Yeah, we're having a little sword fight. Yeah, of course. I know it. I just learned it recently.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. Educate me. 100%. In my game, it is a sword hit, but like a critical hit when your opponent is ready to be especially damaged like vulnerable every okay so you're like you're striking back they've left themselves open and you're getting in there i think it's a counter strike um you know in a if we were boxing everyone it took me a little while not to call it reposte and then once I got past that I needed to know what it meant But you're sitting there at home you're like, oh is that like
Starting point is 00:19:13 Like reheated spaghetti or what? That's where they don't kick it cook it all the way. It's a little hard. Mmm Dente Love it. Well Taylor you proven yourself. You can read best in St. Louis. He's frozen now. No, no, he's out. It was like he looked at Medusa for like a split second and he was like, no, no, not today.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Isis. Every time we talk about this is like back to diet stuff, but every time we talk about vegetables and healthy eating, Woody, and you say mixed vegetables, I always just want to be like, that's the worst kind of vegetables. We need to, we need to get him on the other vegetable wagon. Maybe cut some, uh, some Brussels sprouts up just a little Parmesan, not enough to throw you off your diet, just a little bit. And then you throw it in the oven, you bake it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 You can do that with asparagus, not with Parmesan. Throw that, like any oven baked. You were nodding in agreement at first, Kyle, and now you're decrying every word. I don't like mixed vegetables because I can't tell what I'm eating. I wanna know exactly what I'm eating, but I don't like your unhealthy Brussels sprout idea too.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I don't think we really need many vegetables. You know, I think if you're eating a vegetable, it should be for a reason. What do you want that's in that vegetable? Do you want fiber or vitamin K? Do you want iodine? Like, what are you going for here? And like, I don't think you need many vegetables.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I think you're probably right. As long as you get these, you need the fiber though. It's a little fucking up to you. You're baking them? Yeah, vegetables? As long as you get these, you need the fiber though. It's a little fucking up if you don't get the fiber. You're baking them? Yeah, vegetables? Like, I like cutting the Brussels sprouts in half, little parmesan, you roast it, and it's way better than steamed vegetables.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I just throw it in the Ninja air fryer and just send it. That's solid too. I mean, that is just, you know, roasting it in a smaller thing. Usually if I'm like, I don't always add Parmesan to, well, I always add Parmesan to Brussels sprouts because what am I fucking doing here? You know, that's why you get the Brussels sprouts. Yeah, like that one?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Oh! I know they look bland and they are bland. I like the texture. And if you put tons of butter and salt on it, it's amazing. But yeah, put a stick of butter on it. It's fantastic. If I had a bird and it was its birthday, like I would eat that slathered in butter,
Starting point is 00:21:33 thinking it was healthy pre chronometer. That's it. And I must be obvious to everyone else, but I didn't know. Yeah, I don't think there's anything in there. You really even need. I don't know what's in green beans. I'll go the other way I'll take it. I bet the person listening realizing I unfathomably stupid for not realizing how many calories were in butter has a hole in their diet too that they didn't realize the extent of how It's concentrated calories. I it's got to be the most fat is got a is the most concentrated source of calories unless you're eating like Maybe alcohol is I was gonna say liquid calories unless you're eating like, maybe alcohol is. I was gonna say liquid. Liquid was the big one for me in the 20s. Like ethanol? Like if you had pure ethanol? Sugar's way up there.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I don't know. What concentrated calories, Zach, help us out. Like what's gram to calorie ratio? A shot glass full of butter versus shot glass full of liquor, the butter's gonna be like It's gonna kill it. Wadrupula. Yeah, you're right. It's fat. Fat wins, the butter is going to be like a kill quadruple. Yeah, you're right. It's fat. Fat. It has to be. What about a shot glass full of like sugar? No, that may if you just look at it like it's all you metrically. Well, what I'm saying is like if you're taking in your boiling tea
Starting point is 00:22:45 and you're dumping a pound of sugar in it, like you're super saturating it, you're gonna have a 500 calorie freaking sweet tea that's like 16 ounces, right? It's like, again, the Starbucks drinks that's concentrating that much sugar in it. I mean, it may not be as bad as like, I don't know. They have a 950 calorie drink. Yeah, it may not be as bad as like, you know, I don't have a 950 calorie drink. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:05 It was like it's like like butter, like aside from having a lot of calories, like it's not bad for you. Like your body can do more with that butter than it can like do with vodka, which is just an all. My diet is often that's a healthy focus on keeping my blood pressure in check and butter salty. You get unsalted butter. I get unsalted butter. Oh, I wasn't aware of this.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I don't eat butter anymore. I can't remember the last time I've had butter on purpose. That's fair. Yeah. You replace my eggs in butter every time I make eggs. Every day. Every day. I get my seven eggs.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I get a reasonable amount of butter, enough that it's not like swimming and the eggs aren't swimming in it. They're just waiting. They're skating. I mean, I'm going to use it for cooking. I remember the first time like I this probably a few months ago because
Starting point is 00:24:00 I had been using like spray olive oil and I ran out of it when I was making eggs because I make eggs for myself all the time. And I was like, I'll just like chop off a hunk of butter and like I did that in there made the eggs exactly the same and I was like sitting eating them and I'm like, God damn, something's different. These are the best eggs. They hit so hard. Yeah, it's like, man, I feel fuller. I feel alive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 What do you put in your eggs? Butter. Yeah, butter and a little bit of salt, no pepper. And then sometimes hot. If I do hot sauce, I don't put salt on there. Taylor, I have that same experience, but like a notch lower. Like I only eat egg whites, right?
Starting point is 00:24:41 That's my omelets, whatever. They're just egg whites. And they're much lower calorie. But every once in a while, we don't have the egg beaters. Is that the same thing as that? That's what I'm calling. Yeah. So I use egg beaters, but every once in a while we only have actual eggs. And I'm like, Oh, don't tell me what I'm missing. Right? She's like, don't worry. I'll separate the yolks. I'm not hungry when after I eat. How nice is that? When you do have real eggs, how do you cook them?
Starting point is 00:25:10 Late at night, hard boiled in my little cleaning machine. Scramble, how do you make them? Oh, if I'm cooking them. Okay. If I have like toast or a bread with it, I do it more over easy. If I do it with, if there's nothing to sop up yolk, I go over medium or over harder.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Literally today, I was making eggs this afternoon, just as a quick little snack, and I pulled it off the pan and I was like, you're not gonna have any toast? This is just eggs and also some sausage I made. And so then I got the egg out and I cut into it and immediately the yolk started spilling because I under did it. I'm like, oh fuck, I'm losing it and I cut into it and immediately the yolk started spilling because I under did it I'm like, oh fuck. I'm losing it. I'm losing I put it back in the pan got it a little more overdone
Starting point is 00:25:50 Because the yolk kind of pants though. That's the moneymaker. It's like a ceramic pan So Sarah coach or something. It's some ceramic band that nothing sticks. It's awesome. I like it Yeah, I like I Yeah, I like I'm pretty much okay to EF of I Using myself I think it's some kind of ceramic pan and I don't even use my What I my cast iron much is a gun in the end Oh I think it's just a ceramic coating that they use on guns and cookware when you see Google Sarah Co It's just glocks ache ARS. Yeah and fours. Yeah.aco, it's just Glocks, Ake, Ares, M4s.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a toxic. I would say that's toxic to cook and consume. Yeah, I thought it might be. I like scrambled. No, is it? But if I'm eating for, if I'm like, you know, if I'm doing a fitness thing, it's going to be egg beaters every single time anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It's just going to be those egg beaters They taste the same to me whatever goo they put in there to turn them not only golden colored like us like a like a beaten egg is And not look like snot because the value the great value brand which I have used before like sometimes they won't have the egg Beaters it looks like come it looks like watery Yeah, and and it's so disgusting even while I'm cooking I'm like god damn. This is nasty looking. This is so gross, but egg beaters are even thicker I don't know what they're putting in there, but
Starting point is 00:27:13 Bless them Taylor. I hear you on the the cast-iron thing But in the eye the last six months I have fully embraced it because you had the Dr. Shauna Swan was on … She was on what? Huberman, she was on Rogan and now there was one on Diario CEO where they're all like phthalates and all the plastics and everything just get it all out like the coatings on your pans. If you can remove those from your kitchen, do it.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I was like, all right, I'm going gonna embrace the cast iron thing because I've had them for a long time, but the same experience where everything would just fucking stick to it. And I was like, okay, what am I doing wrong here? And I tell you, man, I feel stupid, but I never let the pan actually heat up. I take my eggs and I put them in there. And if I just take and I put my pan on the, you know, simmer, low setting, let it heat up. Takes like three or four minutes. Put a little bit of butter in there so I can see it like pool in it and then I'll just smear it around,
Starting point is 00:28:17 put the eggs in and cook it. I have never had an egg stick to it. And like, I do mind over easy as well because I like a piece of toast that way whenever I have something to sop up the oak and everything. I feel stupid because I'm a grown fucking man. I've had cast iron skillets forever, and I've never known that you had to heat them up.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Because I'll sear a steak, right? I'll get it super, super hot and then of course sear it, but I've never known that you had to heat it up even for things like eggs Just so that the the temperature is like even on it and everything and not mmm soaking into the pores or whatever I need to do that with the cast iron I always hate cleaning it that they after clean up is such a bitch especially with steaks because I'm gonna eat the steaks now I'm not gonna immediately do dishes So that pan is gonna cool off and it's like full of rosemary and garlic clumps
Starting point is 00:29:05 and like solidified beef tallow now. I just take a paper towel and just smear it out and throw it in the garbage. Isn't it supposed to be dirty and seasoned? I don't understand the level of cleaning that you're supposed to do with catnip. Yeah, you can't use soap on it. I'm glad you asked because I don't either.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And I'll see it sometimes where it's like actually dirty and I'm like There's no way this is what out supposed to be There's a guy on Instagram, I think it's cast iron Kyle or something like that Yeah, and I like that's where I got most of my yeah cast iron Kyle underscore Kyle And I like just started paying attention to all of his stuff and he's like, okay You don't have to use soap and water just clean it with water and water Clean it with the metal scrub thing. You season your pants I feel like that's a dumb question, but like like one way or another I put olive oil
Starting point is 00:30:00 I did what the internet really do when I got it. It was like put olive oil and some other shit on there No, I think I think I think no So you want to take your cast-iron pan and clean it third when you get a new one? Especially newer yes, or your crappy one right now that probably needs seasoning you soap and water and Get it as clean as you possibly can maybe even use steel wool And then you're going to coat the whole thing once it's dried off with vegetable oil. You need a high smoke point oil.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Olive oil is no good, it smokes too low. And then the oven gets turned up as high as it will go, I think, like mine goes to 500, but some people's go higher. And then you put the pan in there upside down in your oven with this thin coating of the oil on there. I don't remember for how long, it's like 45 minutes. And then when you take it out, it's going to turn that oil into this hardened layer of seasoning that is non-stick now.
Starting point is 00:30:50 You turn that cast iron into non-stick. The oil goes into all the pores of the cast iron and it forms this non-stick layer. And you can do multiple layers and even polish those layers. So there's a whole subreddit of per cast iron. And those people will have, it's just like putting a clear coat on a car you know like they'll have cast iron pans that that it's like don't cook at that that's for looking at yeah looking at my in the last six months I also got my cast iron
Starting point is 00:31:21 pan fucking filthy and I was like trying to just pick all the shit out of there. And I even had like a scrub brush, but it wasn't the steel wool. It was just like that really rough, you know, brush and now getting torn up. And I just got so exasperated. I'm like the whole time I'm thinking like, I know you're never supposed to use soap in a cast iron pan. And then like 10 minutes into cleaning, I'm like, what's the someone going to be mad at me? This is my pan in my house. And so I just house that fucker in dawn scrub. There's a burger place in Idaho where they like I'm gonna totally butcher it, but it's a restaurant or something. But
Starting point is 00:31:58 they they are big selling point is like they haven't cleaned the cast iron or whatever cooking surface over a hundred years and everyone loves the flavor of the burgers and stuff like that so. I don't doubt it but I bet they're doing it the right way. There's not just like an onion that falls in there and they're like fuck it. No you scrape it off but if you get like Kyle was saying if you get it to a certain temperature I mean it's gonna kill everything anyways right so like if you get like Kyle was saying, if you get it to a certain temperature, I mean, it's gonna kill everything anyways, right? So like if we get to 500 degrees, there's not gonna be any bacteria living in that.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, like the, I was watching a guy talk about the difference between European eggs and American eggs on TikTok, cause they don't wash their eggs and they look down on us for washing our eggs. They're like, the egg comes with a special antibacterial coating, you fools. You foolish Americans. And this guy's like, first of all, first thing you need to know about chicken, that's where the egg comes out. And he like looks at the chicken's asshole,
Starting point is 00:32:59 the cloaca or whatever he's like, you know what else also comes out there? Shit. Shit comes out too. And you're right, Shit. Shit comes out, hole two. And see, and you're right, when the egg comes out, it'll be kind of moist. And that is an antibacterial coating, which will harden onto the egg and protect you and protect the egg. But we got to ship them eggs to a big country.
Starting point is 00:33:16 We don't have one in tiny countries like France. You know, two France's fit in California. My God. We got to ship ours from Virginia, sometimes to California, Washington state, Alaska. So we wash our eggs. And he just goes on this whole rant. I was like, yeah, they do come out of a chicken's ass. I want you to wash my egg.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Because I'm going to crack that thing and it's going right into the little bits of egg going in my food. That's why we have to refrigerate our eggs and they don't, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can take it like, so if you're not washing them. I don't, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can take it like, so if you're not washing them, yeah, if you're not washing them, you can take and put them in a jar with water
Starting point is 00:33:52 and they'll keep for like a year. Yeah. Like in the shell, in water? Yeah, yeah. You take it and like you- Really? Yeah. That sounds insane.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah, it's crazy, right? It's jarring, jarring. I want some of these, leave them on the counter. How do they know not to hack? Pickled eggs? Too cold? Oh, well they're not fertilized. They're not fertilized. So what you're eating are chicken periods. You're making some assumptions about what I do with my eggs, but okay.
Starting point is 00:34:12 You're coming on them? You're in a deep basement with a dingy swinging lamp over you trying desperately to create a new type of egg. Flute, flute, flute. You're in a deep basement with a dingy swinging lamp over you trying desperately to create a new type of egg. Flute, flute, flute. You're in a deep basement with a dingy swinging lamp over you trying desperately to create
Starting point is 00:34:20 a new type of egg. Flute, flute, flute. You're in a deep basement with a dingy swinging lamp over you trying desperately to create a new type of egg. Flute, flute, flute. You're in a deep basement with a dingy swinging lamp over you trying desperately to create a new type of egg. Flute, flute, flute. You're in a deep basement with a dingy swinging lamp over you trying desperately to create a new type of egg. Woodwardy will take to the skies with me. I know Jackie.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Help me out honey. I got an egg here. What are you doing in there? You've been spending so much time with the egg thing. It's my research. I notice I don't have that min-max guide of Elden Ring yet. Yeah, no, hopefully I would like to try the eggs, see if they taste different. Because that's a real eye-opening moment.
Starting point is 00:35:02 The first time you buy the good eggs at the store and you have to realize like oh fuck they are genuinely way way better than the the crappy eggs like the where do you live taylor yeah that's what i was gonna say why don't you just why don't you just get some from that's what i'm saying we they didn't uh pop up this year but usually there's a farmers market near my house and i've gotten eggs there before and they are head and shoulders better than anything at the store. More expensive too though. They're really putting the screws to you.
Starting point is 00:35:31 It was like seven, eight dollars for a dozen of them. That's what the good ones are for my grocery store, but they're pasture raised chickens. They have that system where they move the feeders in the house are all mobile. So they're scooting along across a field, which just makes the eggs incredibly expensive. Where the yolk's darker? The yolk's the darker. Yeah, very dark orange yolks. They can cheat that,
Starting point is 00:35:52 but they can feed them a higher protein diet. But you know, it's still the, in the whole ag world, because some of the products I've been building are for the space, it's mind blowing the terminology that world, like, because some of the products I've been building are for the space. It's like, it's it's mind blowing the terminology that they throw around like, cage free or whatever still only means that they have to be an X amount of square foot of space. So they're still kind of free ranging, but they're in a cage.
Starting point is 00:36:22 is free ranging, but they're in a cage. It's not a small one. It's not a bigger cage. Oh yeah. Or on grass. It's like, oh yeah, but the cage is still one by one on grass. Yeah, the little loopholes that the FDA will let you get away with is crazy. Well, it's not even the FDA. Sometimes they have just arbitrary organizations that are trying to capitalize off of some
Starting point is 00:36:46 type of branding, like organic, where you have some regulatory bodies that charge a fee to be associated with them. But it's not like it's officially sanctioned by a government or a state or a co-op or anything like that. It's just a fucking third party who's like, yeah, we're gonna be Joe's Organic. And to be Joe's Organic, you only have to pay me $100 a month. You know what it's like?
Starting point is 00:37:11 Like, wait, so I can use all the chemicals I want? Yes, you can. So that reminds me of, I don't know if it's still the same, but for a long time, natural was not an FDA monographed claim. And so quite literally any product, any product at all, can say natural.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And that's the way it was for a while. Maybe they've changed it. Something that you were talking about, like the regulatory or like these private. Yeah. People took that natural, people in my life, who I thought of as not that stupid, would be like, it's all natural.
Starting point is 00:37:44 It's safe. It's all natural it's safe it's terrific it's wonderful i had a friend sprinkle uh he had simple green in a pump you know bottle yeah he like mouthwash or something and then he showed me the bottle said all natural i'm like arsenic is natural that doesn't mean it's food it's like that's like benzene is like everything that's extant in our reality is natural in some way, shape or form. We didn't create it out of nothing, but something like you were mentioned in those organizations that you have to pay like Joe's Organics or whatever. I remember I was talking to, this is years and years ago at this, it was on behalf of
Starting point is 00:38:22 a company. I was talking to this kosher organization because the way like pretty much every product you see in stores that's mass marketed has a little K on the back with usually like a leaf next to it or something and that means like kosher certified and what that actually means is that you like talked to one of these oversight organizations and like the second I started talking to a rep from there, I'm like, this is the biggest fucking scam of all time, where like they charge like tens of thousands of dollars
Starting point is 00:38:54 in some instances to send like a rabbi out to your manufacturing center to watch to like to like do a little song and dance. And then you have to pay yearly, annually, to keep your product kosher and have some other rabbi come out and do this thing. And it costs way more money than you would think. Like it can cost you six tickets. I think they come there, I think they bless,
Starting point is 00:39:19 and they also make sure that the process, the way you're killing the animal is kosher. Like that is part of it too. I don't know. Well, it's not just for products like that. It's like, so your deodorant, there's a decent chance your deodorant has a K on the back. And so basically J&J would have had to pay
Starting point is 00:39:40 a hundred grand or whatever to an organization to come check out a product that it's inconceivable it could not be kosher. You're not consuming it. There's nothing in there that's not kosher. And so it's like they're making money on products where there's literally no reason because having that little marker on there is,
Starting point is 00:40:00 they perceive as important. Do we talk last time about some of the products that I was building? You were, you spoke some about it, not a lot. Okay, so okay, so to catch you up to speed, the Warrior Dog product is launched. So if people wanna go to warriordog.com, they can check that out.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But what you do is you can essentially sponsor one dog, three dogs, or all the dogs. And what I did is I built this tech stack that put RFID dog, three dogs, or all the dogs. And what I did is I built this tech stack that put RFIDs in the collars of all the dogs. And so you can see essentially them eat, them sleep, play fetch, all these different things. But this was the proving ground
Starting point is 00:40:37 for scaling into ag operations. Because my goal here is to have radical transparency in supply chain so small farmers can compete with the big four. And so meat producers, they're not gonna wanna put RFIDs on all their cows and show people, oh shit, it lived on a feed lot
Starting point is 00:40:55 in what most people would consider to be unethical way. And these small farmers who might only have like 100 head of cow or something like that can go to local restaurants and say, Hey, look here, like you can use this QR code and you'll see the calving process, which was September of this year. So like all the cows being born and shit like that, and then we're tagging them. Two years from now, you'll be able to see that entire lifecycle
Starting point is 00:41:21 of the animal to include the slaughter process if you want to because food waste is such a big problem in the US. I think if we allow people to see that kind of lights go out moment of the cow, it'll elicit like a visceral response where maybe they'll be a little bit more reluctant to waste their steak. The chickens, like I'm gonna have a bunch of chickens. There's a couple of chicken farms I'm probably gonna partner with on eggs and also meat birds and stuff. So it's gonna be fun, man I think that I think that Yeah, I just like the idea of like the the little man being able to fucking upsell their stuff at a premium
Starting point is 00:41:55 People being able to have that transparency and like hey look no this fucking animal really was free-range It really did live a good life. It sucks that it's dead. It's nice that it's on my plate. I can feel good about this whole thing. Do you have any idea how happy this thing was before we killed it for you? No. Here it is frolicking. Watch this little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Here it was playing. Yeah. You eat every bite of Oliver. If you're trying to like get the people healthier eating these whole foods, you should do that with like If you're trying to get the people healthier eating these whole foods, you should do that with like a potato's lifestyle all the way to becoming a Pringle. And then you can just see like in the middle of that like, oh, this is gross. This isn't even a chip. This is some weird emulsification. I was going to do it with the coffee company. And you see the entire journey from the plant to washing, roasting, and shipping and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But you run into liability issues too if you fully automate this process because you get into, again, the unethical areas of supply chain where some companies might be using third world countries for whatever aspect of it is and somebody like offs themselves or dies or something. And you've completely automated the process and then somebody scans a QR code, just some random dude was like, you know what? Fuck it. I want to see where my iPhone came from. It was like, yeah, the cameras and stuff like that. I want to see the guy who made my iPhone.
Starting point is 00:43:22 It's an 11 year old in a net in the middle of a compound He tried to kill themselves. It's like oh man. This really makes memeing more difficult morally Yeah, no, I'm okay with it I genuinely don't mind some of that some of that slave labor in our in our supply chain Well, they try to make me not like chocolate anymore Taylor. Do you see that? That's the most one Dude, they think that they can make Americans stop eating chocolate by telling us they can All fuck off that that slaves are picking it This is saying is that palm is it palm oil or is it Trump? Is it fucking Trump?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Oh being I think it's cocoa. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's the cocoa beans that they've got little children being forced to to pick them And stuff and we saw well, but they get paid not well Do they get some chocolate? I don't think they could. Oh, that's the way the news article is always phrased. They show how much they get paid per day versus the cost of a chocolate bar.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And it's like, they could never afford a chocolate bar. They should give them some chocolate. There should be perks. Oh, they're so far behind on the supply chain. Oh, I know, but I'm saying like have a couple pall a couple palettes, like they should have access to some chocolate. They did that they took they were like, here, have this and he's like, what is this? And like, this is chocolate. It's what you've been doing your entire 45 years of life. This is what those are turned into. It's why it's why we do all this. why it's why we do all this. And I like that 45 year old kid you're talking about right now.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I mean, there's like everybody's doing it like, like it's, it's the only thing there is to do there is pick the cocoa beans. And we also saw the slave monkeys who had to had to pick the things. Remember that Taylor, they had those. I don't like that, but it's not because the monkeys are being bullied. It's because I don't want monkey hands touching my food. That is a weird fucking tape. I I like monkeys but like they're gross They are gross make them wash their hands No, they do not you think the fucking like borderline illegal slave camp in the middle of columbia is
Starting point is 00:45:17 He's got purel out on every corner. I trained monkeys to pick fucking fruit out of trees and retrieve it You don't think you can teach them how to wash their goddamn dirty paws There's no way they would they wouldn't do it enough they wash the fruit it doesn't matter what I mean This is shit on whenever you have one of those list Do the monkeys have to lie out there? They seem happy because we spray our crops with shit It's liquid shit being sprayed on the spinach for fertilizer for fertilizer And then they don't wash it well enough and it goes straight in your mouth
Starting point is 00:45:44 You're eating pig shit that got sprayed on a head of cabbage in California two weeks ago. That's true. That's how you get... So I'm not worried about monkey poop. ... gets their shit. So what are the monkeys like? Do they seem happy with the arrangement or no?
Starting point is 00:45:58 I guess that's the important question. They're in these little cages, and they got little cuffs. They look very unhappy unhappy the ones I saw oh yeah they lock them up so you've picked enough fruit for the day you little mongrel throw them in a cage like threw them in there too yeah yeah I hate that I wish I would do that anymore I like it I guess it's gonna be human slavery or monkey slavery you gotta like morally like you gotta go like putting monkeys out there.
Starting point is 00:46:25 No, like, because you sold me, like, they are washing the fruit anyway. I guess it's not a big deal if the monkey hands are kind of dirty. Yeah, yeah. We could replace all those jobs with- I don't know what makes a monkey's hand dirtier than a human's hand, though, frankly. They like, they don't use toilet paper, they shit on- But they don't wipe their asses with their hands, though. They just poop and go.
Starting point is 00:46:41 They never touch their own asses. I mean, maybe occasionally. I saw these monkeys the other day they've started one of them started putting like straw in her asshole and in her ears like as a fashion statement and it's caught on and so all the other monkeys started putting straw up their assholes and in their ears and they're all walking around looking retarded and it's like it's like they said it's the first documented like fashion statement and like fashion trend and like fancy culture or something.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I don't have ear infections. That's the asshole strut. I'll put that in your, ah, God damn it. That's pretty cool. That's like their gene co genes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're just having a good time. Yeah. They're like 50 years from Jinco jeans. Maybe we could get monkeys to be better at being the slaves if we get them addicted to something. Oh, I like that. How about zins that nicotine can't do smoking because there's only one hand for picking fruit. Oh,
Starting point is 00:47:42 no, that's a reward they get. I would think you get like little nicotine mints oh yeah that's a good that's a better idea than the the day yeah they wouldn't understand the concept of that they'd swallow it goes with nicotine because I've seen those might have been a Chinese zoo where they had the monkey learned to smoke you know people kept throwing at cigarettes and it watched people smoke their own cigarettes and it figured it the fuck out and now it's addicted to nicotine and it's like oh oh people are lighting smokes up for this guy. Can you imagine how good of a day that was for the orangutan and that exhibit they finally someone finally throws him a lighter and a cig through some miracle of the cosmos he hits his thumb correctly lights it
Starting point is 00:48:22 and then that first puff he was probably probably like, life's not so bad. Yeah. Yeah. As long as these Chinese guys keep throwing, you know, cigarettes and food. And apparently there's a problem in Chinese zoos where they just like throwing rocks at animals. Chinese people are kind of shitty. We saw a while back where they had those fake koalas, not koalas, pandas. They were Pomeranians painted like... That was obvious. We saw a while back where they had those fake koalas, not koalas, pandas. They were Pomeranians painted like pandas. That was obvious. We called that immediately. It was the cutest shit you've ever seen. I would not have disappointed. I mean, oh, well, I came for the pandas, but I stayed for the poms. Can I scratch them? Can I scratch them?
Starting point is 00:48:59 I'd want to get down there and play those good boys. I've also saw the sun bear that looked like a man in a suit, but then it turned out it was just a weird look. Sun bears are weird. They have man asses. They have like a Hank Hill body shape when they stand up. Like really no glutes to speak of, not even a little hump. Just, boom. Gluteo dysmorphia. Yeah. Sure. Diminishing glutes. Yeah. That's what I'm going. I haven't been to the zoo in like 15 years or so. Zoo rocks. You're missing out. I don't know if the Atlanta Zoo is good, but it's fine.
Starting point is 00:49:30 It's fine. I just feel bad for the animals. You can smell the monkey shit a mile away. You know you're getting to the Atlanta Zoo. But once you get in there, I'm like, this is prison. This is animal prison. I don't want to see these guys all locked up in here doing time. They're all lifers. You know what I mean? I saw a baby gorilla
Starting point is 00:49:47 I think two months old, but maybe two years old to something. But it got killed at the zoo the other day because they triggered a hydraulic door when they weren't supposed to. And it just crushed the little baby gorilla in front of its mother gorilla. And the whole pack. No. Yeah. It squished the little gorilla. That's a big fuck up. It's like he's supposed to be off in the Congo somewhere digging around, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. Rooting around, doing what gorillas do, having a good time, fucking a harem of gorilla bitches sitting there jacked. Huge. That's so you really want to be a gorilla, don't you? I think if you're going to if you're going to pick one of the great apes to be, Gorilla is like there's what what else? What are you going to be a gorilla, don't you? I think if you're gonna pick one of the great apes to be, gorilla is like, what else are you gonna be? The orangutan. A human?
Starting point is 00:50:30 Well, fuck. Fuck! He got me. Okay, if you're gonna be a non-human great ape, you gotta go gorilla. Orangutan would be too lonely. They're solitary creatures. Like you're not really hanging out very much as an orangutan and I wouldn't want to be alone. I'm gonna be antisocial myself. I'm gonna be an orangutan. They're they're solitary creatures like you're not really hanging out very much as an orangutan and I wouldn't want to be alone
Starting point is 00:50:46 I'm gonna land you social myself. I'm gonna be an orangutan. There's no I'd want to have We looked it up six weeks ago. Don't don't go down this road again. Woody. We don't Google it again Promise you the orangutans are smarter. They tested them. We did I do remember this I remember it because I wasn't pleased with the result. I wanted to believe the girl is right Everyone knows Jim's number one, you know, I've never seen it made itself I've seen those goddamn orangutans by the river not only bathe themselves with soap water and washcloth But also sweep up their enclosure because they'd seen it done before like those things are fucking smart, dude They give them give them guys a couple hundred thousand years and they're gonna be people.
Starting point is 00:51:25 They're gonna be in kindergartens. That's gonna be the, like 100,000 years from now, that'll be the leftist. They'll want the chimps to be in schools with our children. And they'll be like, mutilations are at an all time low. The last time a kinder ape turned on a human lately. The left wants this orangutan in your daughter's bathroom. Yeah. We need to shut it down.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. Like, what's the difference? And it's just like a picture of an orangutan tearing a door off of a stall and beating a maintenance man to death. And then there's like the smartest, most well spoken orangutan you've ever seen on CNN. And he's just like, it's bigotry. It's bigotry. And I won't stand for it.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Now we're going to hear from Mr. Marbles. Mr. Marbles, what do you think? I remember the cages and the Jeepers. He'd be so poignant. You'd be like, let him in the bathroom. Remember the cages and the Jeepers. He'd be so poignant. You'd be like, let them in the bathroom. Yeah. Maybe they go back to eating the kids. You saw Capitol Hill, right?
Starting point is 00:52:33 They're they passed through that legislation so that the rule, I guess, where that trans lawmaker can't use the, uh, uh, the, the men's bathroom or the women's bathroom, right? Uh, I haven't been that included on like the file yeah so we've got so this election cycle i guess just now we've got a like our first trans lawmaker and um so immediately i don't know her name it's a republican woman she like they spearheaded this thing and made sure that they passed a rule
Starting point is 00:53:00 so that she couldn't use the women's room and she's like mad about it now. No, she's like, okay. She said okay, but it was a it was a bit of a stink. Oh, but about a bing, about a boom problem solved first of many problems be solved by Don. Were you surprised by the election Richard?
Starting point is 00:53:23 Were you surprised by the election, Richard? It's hard to say because benefit of hindsight, right? Yeah. I think a lot of people leading up to it were, but everyone I talked to, everyone, literally everyone I talked to, maybe I'm in an echo chamber or whatever, I like to think that I'm not, but everyone had a lot of the
Starting point is 00:53:45 same frustrations. Not everybody talked about who they were voting for, but- Ooh, that's a good sign. Yeah, right? And I think that is why, right? Because it was the silent majority that really showed up. I mean, it was the same thing as 2016. People were being ridiculed for not being happy with inflation, not being happy with the cost of everything from groceries to housing. They're like, yeah, people who own shit, yeah, they got rich in the last four years. Their houses and stuff went up or their stocks and their portfolios and everything else. But people who actually live either paycheck to paycheck or don't own their home and shit, they got fucking hammered, man. And so I think a lot
Starting point is 00:54:30 of people were just like, hey, look, you can complain about abortion all you want, but the fact of the matter is the Obama-Biden administration had the opportunity to codify row and they didn't why well Probably because it's a great thing to the raise campaign funds off of and they have a supermajority to codify that was 2008 2010 when they did the ACA instead. Yeah, and so it was like, you know, okay is is like Again, I don't like abortion is one of those things where there's a massive discrepancy and people who like Believe that life begins at a certain point and understandably you can worldwide, right? And no, it's so understandably there can be
Starting point is 00:55:22 drastically varying opinions and why it's a hot-button topic but to To say things like okay certain things that impact every single American or people in you know other countries, you know the devaluation of the dollar You know the economy and all these other different things It's like there are a lot of pressing issues and just because people don't like you know Trump as a There are a lot of pressing issues and just because people don't like, you know Trump as a You know how he speaks about other people be it little Marco or whatever? Pocahontas and stuff. Yeah, he might be off-putting to a lot of people but the fact of the matter is the last four years a lot of people are fucking hurting you look at the response to things like
Starting point is 00:56:01 You know the hurricanes in Appalachia and everything else to, again, I'm going to beat the dead horse. Woe is me and Kyle in that. But you look at tech companies over the last 10, 15 years and how they put their thumb on the scale saying what is socially acceptable, i.e. firearms or not. That's very, very frustrating to a lot of people who just want to live their lives. And if something's legal, leave them the fuck alone. Like if you're a consenting adult or you're doing something that's legal,
Starting point is 00:56:32 like you shouldn't be like persecuted for it. And I think a lot of people wanted to virtue signal. I know some of these buzzwords like virtue signaling get used a lot now, but it's true. People found it very easy to signal to other people that I'm for Kamala or the Harry Sissons and stuff like that, where they're rising up against the oppressors, but you're not the oppressors anymore. You're not being oppressed anymore.
Starting point is 00:56:58 You are the oppressor. And that is really frustrating to a lot of people who are like, I just wanna live a fucking normal life, man. And I don't wanna see my, what little bit of savings I have get devalued. And I don't wanna have to pay twice as much for groceries or gas and everything else. So how do you put that with the fact that America's inflation is not as bad
Starting point is 00:57:21 as it is elsewhere in the Western world? Because it's the, well, it's not as bad. I'm playing Biden for inflation, but it's worse when by, where, in places where Biden wasn't in charge. Well, so the, the thing I think that you look at COVID and that response, um, was, it's fortunate for Americans in that we were the dollar is the reserve currency for most you know productive countries out there outside of bricks now but yeah for us for us it wasn't as bad but you look at the amount of spending that went up based off of bailouts in 2008, you look at 2020, and Trump did spend a lot
Starting point is 00:58:07 of money too, but I think the response and shutting everything down really fucked the economy. And so a lot of businesses said, hey, look, oh, what are we going to do at supply chain? And they got really fucking greedy. They got really greedy. They blamed things on supply chain and COVID, but they had healthy margins and public companies reflected that. And they couldn't hide that, right? And that's why some people were like, oh, they're gouging and everything. We wouldn't be in this situation
Starting point is 00:58:35 if the COVID response was just more libertarian-esque and just said, hey, you know what? Fucking sucks. We're going to to, you know, set up medical facilities and support teams and everything else. But we can't shut down, you know, the economy and our infrastructure. If you people want to live their lives, let them fucking live their lives. You can't arrest people for going out fucking surfing on a beach, or, you know, going to a park.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Well, they did. I know, but that's what I'm saying. I think that that's why the silent majority in this was very much like 2016. They were like, hey, look, I'm tired of being fucking ridiculed on social media because I'm not in the in-crowd, which I do think that has shifted in the last few years. You do see a lot of people specifically on the right side of the aisle to include the libertarians, you know, have become a little bit more socially acceptable
Starting point is 00:59:34 in those perspectives and like, hey, look, maybe the pendulum should swing a little bit more back this other way. It's just the fact of the matter is the pendulum swung so fucking far left that people who were in the center Now look like they're on the right. No, we're right of you, but we're still in the center You just went so far to the left that everything's right to you. Mm-hmm. You mentioned I Understand what you're saying. Totally You mentioned that guy, Harry Sisson. He's like this. He was like a meme on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:00:10 He was like this guy who was paid by democratic organizations, like a 22 year old. That's what they don't fucking go out there and they're being paid. Yeah. Well, it's obvious to anyone that they're being paid. But they do the same political thing where they can be like, actually, I've never taken a dollar from this organization. And it's like, oh, well, you took money from this organization that took it from this that receives it from
Starting point is 01:00:31 this slush fund. But regardless, this guy's like whole thing was like trying to make it seem cool to vote for Harris and being if he did it so inefficiently, you if you would have called him an agent provocateur, I would have believed you. If he was like, guys, I'm going to make it look as gay as possible to be a Democrat, that's what he did. And he was like, Harry Sisson. Yeah, I recognize his face. That's how the Democrats know about Trump when he goes to non-union auto manufacturers and says unions for Trump, right? When he goes to the fucking firemen and then has people wearing firefighters for Trump that aren't firefighters, like he dread,
Starting point is 01:01:10 they're cosplaying, sometimes it's the same people at the rallies, pretending to be auto workers that also pretend to be fire workers that also pretend to be whatever. Yeah, it's a great job. But there, we're calling out, I guess, someone for paying Henry Sisson for supporting democratic stuff,
Starting point is 01:01:27 but we're not saying a word about Trump who did the same thing times a hundred, right? Hundreds of people showing up at rallies, cosplaying as union people wearing their hard hats. You think Trump is bringing hundreds of people dressed up? Yeah, the auto union thing, they hand out. None of those were workers. And they gave them hard hats.
Starting point is 01:01:43 They gave them, they'll have brand new shiny hard hats pretending that they were blue collar workers and they were paid. So yeah, I think all those people at his rallies are like paid. Well, now you're being a strong. You think all those workers in the back are paid. Everybody at a Trump rally is paid.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I think the people who pretended hundreds of them right pretended to be auto workers and weren't were. I know that I know that firefighters and weren't were. I know when he announced his candidacy in 2015 that everyone in that room was paid $50 to be there. Like when he came down the escalators and all those people are holding signs and cheering, like they rounded up people and paid them 50 bucks for that. Yeah, I mean, like two weeks before the election, Harris put out a statement that she was doing forgiveness loans for black men specifically $20,000. She also put out she was doing
Starting point is 01:02:38 forgiveness loans for Hispanic men specifically for $20,000. Do you think that do you think that like nationwide promises a bigger deal? And lies that spread so much, and that's a frustration for that thing that we spread about Beyonce getting $10 million and that whole thing, that wasn't true. That came from an Instagram post from some asshole.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Like the celebrities would come out and be like, what, I didn't get that money. That's not true. Oprah got paid a million dollars. Oprah got more. I did hear about Oprah, but I'm saying, when we talk about Beyonce forever, like she didn't even sing, we didn't get our money. That's not true. Oprah got paid more. I did hear about Oprah, but I'm saying we talk about Beyonce forever. Like she didn't even sing. We didn't get our money. It wasn't true. So now they're saying she didn't get 10 million because I've seen it in a lot of
Starting point is 01:03:12 places that she did. It came from an Instagram post. That was the genesis of it. Well, let's let's see if Zach, the whole point of this politics just like it's a losing battle because you're based in truth. I have no problem with people having different views than me. I love it, right? I can respect it the issue is when like They're basing their views on some sort of lie something that didn't really happen Yeah, that happens a lot in politics. I wouldn't say Complys with more government taked down requests now than they did before Elon took it over.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yet everyone- According to who? Twitter. Twitter came in and said you're doing more? Fact check me. Google it. Because I heard that and I was like, really? I need to look into this.
Starting point is 01:03:58 So I did. Is that a FISA thing or like is that public? I don't know. I don't know. Here. I'll Google it. Fact check me. Prove me wrong. Because I looked't know. Here, I'll Google, fact check me, prove me wrong. Because I looked into it just recently and I was like, ah, what do you know?
Starting point is 01:04:10 So Twitter is censoring more now than before despite. I said complies with government take down requests. So if they're complying with government take down requests. The company has not refused a single request since Musk took ownership according to self-reporting data. Since Musk took ownership, the government has received 971 demands and fully complied with 808 of them. Before Musk, Twitter's compliance rate hovered around 50%. Now it is over 80%. Yeah, I mean, do you think a lot of that has to do with the fact that there were a lot more requests for information to be banned prior to Elon getting it?
Starting point is 01:04:47 Because there was a long time- Trying to rationalize why going from 50% to over 80% is okay. But I get it, there's context, but this idea that like, oh, the Democrats are all about censorship- Democrats are about censorship. Wait, is mom and dad fighting here? Democrats are about censorship, dude. We do it every week.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Both Walls and Harris openly talked about how they were in favor of increasing censorship on social media because they have less control and they see it as misinformation and hate speech. They were open about that. Yeah, so I don't line up with the idea of censoring ideas that you don't like, but Trump does. Trump said he was going to pull broadcasting licenses for reporting news he doesn't like. For the last 10 years, left leaning social media companies have been removing right wing people. Like, I remember Dick came on our show and he's like, they don't like me because I'm right. I'm like, what did you actually post? He's like, you know, you put some swastikas on your Twitter feed and suddenly you're a Nazi. That's the kind of stuff. You realize he was joking with you there, right? Like, he's you put some swastikas on your Twitter feed and suddenly you're a Nazi. That's the kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:46 You realize he was joking with you there, right? Like he's not actually posting swastikas. He was meaning. I didn't realize he was joking. I'm telling you, he was joking as though what he did. Let me tell you what he's meaning. OK. He was saying, oh, I'm being so offensive.
Starting point is 01:06:00 It's Nazi adjacent. The reality is he's shit posting. Nothing Dick does on there is Nazi ask. The fact is, is that it used to get removed about on on social media is like, up until Musk, it was really just Democrats asking like, Hey, this looks bad for our party, remove it. And they would comply with that often. That came out. They did that during election seasons. Like this isn't conspiratorial. They COVID.
Starting point is 01:06:24 It doesn't COVID. What about the mask stuff? What about the mask stuff is my favorite example for why you need to be careful about censoring misinformation because you know like what was true in my air quotes about masks shifted. And if you're kind about it, maybe they just like got new information or raised their standards for what was good. They lied. They knew that doesn't stop it. It wasn't people who said masks are a hundred percent
Starting point is 01:06:57 effective. You could go and say that all day. Obvious, you know, disinformation. It was people saying, hey, these don't work clearly. It says so in the box. That was what was shut down. The Vax efficacy shit too. For a while you got banned for saying
Starting point is 01:07:09 it was anything less than 100% effective. And then they backed off of that. That surprises me that you got banned for saying it was less than 100% effective. But what I saw a lot was like, the number was like 97% effective or 80% effective over some period of time. And then they're like, if it's not 100, what are we doing?
Starting point is 01:07:28 What a waste, they tell us it works, it doesn't actually work. When really, you know, it's like 80 to 90. If you remember like the actual track of info, it started as 100% safe, 100% effective. I do remember it, I never saw 100%. And then Fauci said it. And then it was down to 97, and then it was down to 90, and then it was down to 80. And over the course of about a year and a half, the end up claim was, yeah, idiots, it's not supposed to keep you from ever getting it, it's supposed to keep you from dying and going to the hospital. And so there was a week like you could watch in real time as a narrative fell apart. And there was kind of a backfilling of, oh, well, okay, they're right about that, but this new thing is true. And so when they operate on a scale like
Starting point is 01:08:09 that, it is easy to go, okay, what else are they not allowing to be spoken about? Yeah, I'm just excited to see if, you know, like, again, it's one of those things, as far as the administration's concerned. I'm not, I joke and tell people I'm a libertarian short of anarchy. And it's nice that there's a clearly an administration coming in that is, if anything, there's a few industrial complexes that are a little upset about it because you can't deny that there's been a concerted effort to keep him from becoming president and or what he's going to bring for his cabinet picks are. And I think like Tulsi was a great one.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I love that she kind of, you know, she came to the Republican Party after, you know, just what four years of, you know of her position in the DNC. I mean, that's pretty remarkable. Did her Ukraine views concern you? Listen, man, I suck whenever it comes to a lot of foreign matters because I've learned over the years just how fucking ignorant I am. When you're younger, you're fairly certain of a lot of things, and then you realize there are so many moving parts and ulterior motives and all these other different variables that you're never
Starting point is 01:09:38 really going to fully understand the whole picture, where the incentives are misaligned, who's benefiting here that might be pulling the strings in whatever way. So outside of genocide, it's really hard for me to have strong opinions these days just because I'm like, I'm trying to figure out, okay, what's like, what's the other hand doing here? It bothered me that she said that Ukraine was like, they had secret labs, manufacturing bio weapons. It bothers me that people said that Ukraine had secret labs manufacturing bioweapons. It bothers me that people on Russian TV call her Russia's girlfriend. They show her saying pro-Russian stuff and they put it on Russian state TV. She is pro-Russia and anti-Ukraine and now she's taking a position in what, our Defense
Starting point is 01:10:22 Department. That concerns me. I don't like it. Intelligence. Yeah. Intelligence. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's a problem. Yeah. I don't mind us getting out of the Ukraine thing,
Starting point is 01:10:31 but the whole, the whole point. Yeah. You've been very consistent. Yeah. The whole reason I brought up the, the Harry. I wasn't here. I didn't bring up politics. The whole reason I brought up the Harry Sisson thing. Oh, is that a thing? Is that a thing?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Woody, Woody, is politics a bad thing here? No, what is mr. Mr. Politics politics a lot and sometimes people don't like it I think our audience is kind of right-wing and they don't like my views and When politics comes up and I'm innocent I sometimes point it out but here's here's the great thing over time that I've I've learned is like if you if you are constantly in agreement with someone you Need to find people you disagree with because it may hurt your feelings at some point, but you're never going to grow as a person if you're not being challenged. And if hopefully, the goal is to grow as a person, if somebody challenges you in a way that makes you change your mind, good for you for being a human
Starting point is 01:11:21 being that's actually growing into something. right? So it's like, I would much rather have a spirited debate, and then boil things down to an ideological difference and say, you know what, it sucks. But this is where my belief system is going to disagree with yours. I know, dude, you got to it, but name calling lies. Be louder louder than your opponent if you're taller than them stand over them push them slightly for attorney general right that was a terrible pick right how many times did he fight that 17 year old his face as many as he is not I mean I mean we know exactly how many times did he fight that 17 year old? Like his face. As many as he is not like his face. I mean, we know exactly how many times, Woody.
Starting point is 01:12:07 We have the we have the records like we know. Right. We got to release the records. We got to see what's. And look, it I just. Republicans shouted rumor at everybody for eight years. And then they have like a rapist as president elect. They have a rapist as attorney general, although he did just pull out, and they have another one in some defense position, Peter, whatever his name is.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Well, I mean, the courts say I'm right. They literally don't. But anyway, can you bring that picture back up, Zach? So this guy, he's the Democrat operative guy, and the dude who killed Osama bin Laden. I guess he's like a big influencer guy now. Scroll up and show what the guy who killed Osama bin Laden. Rob O'Neill. A bunch of 20 year olds. Yeah, he goes, the area assistant goes, we're Gen Z voters and
Starting point is 01:12:59 we're all proudly voting for Kamala Harris. Real men support Harris. And Robert J. O'Neill goes, you're not men, you're boys. If there were no social media, you would be my concubines. And this is like a 40, like a 50 year old man. And I saw a video of him like at an airport or something, like in public filming, like himself walking with baggage or something. And he's like, yeah, I've been getting a lot of people asking me what I meant when I said I'd make them my concubines.
Starting point is 01:13:29 And I just want to say that's what I meant. I meant I meant they don't know how to fight. They don't have to do shit. Shit hits the fan. Those little bitches are going to be looking for a guy like me to keep them safe. I guess what's going to fucking happen after that? Whatever I want. And it's like, also, he's like, yeah, I killed it. He didn't say it, but he should have been
Starting point is 01:13:49 like, yeah, Obama or Osama killer out. This is where I push back on the Republicans are on the outs, the not cool kids. Dude, Republicans are totally the cool kids lately. It's the Democrats that picture that I'm like supposed to defend, those kids couldn't fight the way out of a paper bag, right? And- I think Gen Z is more conservative. I think, well, actually, let me take that back. I think there's a, the bifurcation is happening
Starting point is 01:14:17 in between the sexes in Gen Z drastically. So like Gen Z males are typically predominantly more conservative and Gen Z females are more liberal, which is kind of crazy. Yeah. I mean, that can switch rapidly, you know, like usually women tend to trend after towards men after a while. And so you never know. No, haven't you heard about the four B movement? It's over, Taylor. It's fucking over.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah. But I think it starts that way. Like ugly women are like, let's get the biblical stuff. What does it stand for? I think the four B's are, are, are three things that women expected to do. Uh, it's from South Korea though. Um, they, they see the South Korean women went on sex reproductive strike and I suppose got some
Starting point is 01:15:09 where with that. And mostly I've seen it be the rallying cry of women that no one wanted to fuck anyway as of late. Yeah. I'm also refusing to compete in the Stanley Cup finals this year. Oh no. Boycott. I get what I want.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Yeah. I'm boycotting. I'm your head to. Well, it's not me. Yeah, I shaved my head because serious. That's some stupid trend that like a way smaller group of women are participating in, then they pretend because it's like a and then people can like, you know, rant about it.
Starting point is 01:15:42 All these stupid bitches, which is what we're doing, which is good content, I guess. No, it's a good time. No, they all look like neo-Nazis all of a sudden. It's like, who are the skinheads now, ladies? Good God. You all look like you fit right in. I'm with Destiny on this, right?
Starting point is 01:15:56 Like, democratic morons, we can win without you, but we can't win with you. Like, stop this nonsense. And the best part is, what they're doing by saying, all right, how about this how about this? You want to take away our right to to abort our fetuses? Well, we just won't have premarital sex. How then how you're gonna feel right wing conservative men and they're all right. Holy shit, did we just win? This is the war over Papa. When we wait more than a make up not horse and it's gonna they're gonna think
Starting point is 01:16:23 it's their idea. Where are we going to make them not whores and they're going to think it's their idea? Did we just lay the whore right out of you? Is Kyle anti-primerital sex now? I'm wild. For everyone but him. Kyle is a hypocrite. For me, I want many things that you shouldn't have. That's just how I feel.
Starting point is 01:16:43 I feel like I should get things that others shouldn't have. That's just how I feel. I feel like I should get things that others shouldn't. You know what? As an American, you deserve it. That's genuinely how I feel about the abortion. It's like, look, y'all shouldn't be aborting them kids. I think I want to take your right to do it away. But if I need one, I mean, goodness gracious, I need one right now. Let's get this taken care of, you know what I mean? That's just how I feel. That's what's in my heart. Kyle's a big for me, not for the guy, but unironically. Yes. Genuinely, because it's just how I see the world, I guess. I just don't think we should be doing it nationwide. We've got this population issue. Why can't we give those kids up for
Starting point is 01:17:24 adoption or give them to the military industrial complex? They're always saying that recruitment Why? It's like the million, we've got this population issue. Like, why can't we give those kids up for adoption or give them to the military industrial complex? They're always saying that recruitment is low. Oh my God, how many kids are we aborting every year? The good ones. How many of these kids could be absolute warriors raised by the state? Yes, like the movie Soldier.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yes. Oh, that'd be bad ass. I haven't seen that. And you know I haven't seen it. Kurt Russell, Kurt Russell. I raised him. I raised Kurt Russell from birth, him and all his boys they got tattoos on their faces. His name is Todd it just says Todd
Starting point is 01:17:50 tatted on his face and from birth he's like exposed to violence, dogs ripping people apart like the last guy in the in the in the run. They're doing like a squad run you know you carry the one guy's carrying the colors or whatever and he's hanging back with the last man in the in this But he can't stay with him. He's got to stay with the squad They execute the last guy the guy who can't keep up with the squad and so you go through all that training He becomes like the super soldier of the future, but he's not genetically engineered
Starting point is 01:18:15 He's all Natty all of a sudden the new group of super soldiers are coming in the newest coolest genetically engineered badass And so they're you know, they have a it's a good movie Just watch the movie is an hour and 39 minutes. Kurt Russell says a hundred and four words. Fuck. Yeah He doesn't even talk in the movie. Does he do a lot of brooding? I guess. Oh, yeah He's got some one-liners, buddy She's like how many could he have like six seven? Yeah, a hundred and four words My favorite part of the movie, she's like, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:18:48 Cause all the super soldiers had come to the planet and they're going to kill all these innocent people that Todd's come to love and he'd be friended. And he's like, I'm going to kill them all, sir. And he just walks away. It's bad ass. I know it sounds silly now, but it's a good movie. I actually liked the movie too. I just think it's silly that he didn't talk.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Kurt Russell did a body transformation before body transformations were a Hollywood thing like he Do that role and he spent a whole year getting Jack is pretty fucking big and scary. It's a great movie I apologize. I think I'm choosing fights for no reason whatsoever and be Soldier that's great Ice cream stupid fucking bitch I'm a sherbert man for through it through if you were a sherbert over an ice cream man We'd actually have a problem rainbow sherbert, baby. I got all three flavors disgusted It's disgusting. No just in the world of ice creams You think sherbert's disgusting? Oh, just in the world of ice creams.
Starting point is 01:19:44 If I, if you, if one of you guys tell me, if one of you guys tell me I'm throwing an ice cream party and I come over with my jammies and you guys have sherbert, I'm going home. Frozen yogurt then. I've, I'll light a fire on my way out. I'm actually with you. Ice cream is better, but sherbert's still good. Yeah. If we're
Starting point is 01:20:06 going to cheat, let's go whole hog with it. Let's get this. We were speaking about conflict and people that hate each other. What's been going on on fish tank? You got to catch me up. I know. I know that the deal currently is they have a guy who is schizophrenic and the text to speech has been used kind of sparingly so that he believes maybe it's in his head and they tell him things and manipulate him. So Zach, if you can do your best to like pull up relevant pictures, if you go to hashtag fish tank dot live or hashtag fish tank live on Twitter, you'll find stuff to put up.
Starting point is 01:20:39 So basically, fish tank is a reality show by Sam Hyde and Jet Neptune and some other guys, Richard, and it's Big Brother mixed with like- That's the guy who called in last time, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's a- It's a new season of Fish Tank. Yeah, new season of Fish Tank, and it's a live reality show where people are locked
Starting point is 01:21:02 in a house and cameras are always on in every room and you can switch through and it's it's like the Stanford Prison Experiment but much more much less healthy to be in there trying to find some pictures of less help yeah and so basically they every other season this is the third full one they've done like a couple mini seasons too they actually they were dealing with the issue especially in the second season where they're like we need to find people who don't know what the show is, because otherwise it's going to blow the bit when like Frank Hassel comes in, because they're going to be like, oh, he's here to hassle us.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Like and so the second season, some people snuck by the radar and they didn't realize till the show is going like this fucking piece of shit lied to us. They clearly know what's going on this third season. They pulled it off entirely. None of these people have any idea what's going on. And so there's Burt, there's the big boy, the black urban ripped trainer is what they've been calling him and so they've got, they had 10 people in here
Starting point is 01:21:57 and for this season, they called it Famous House. Everyone who they conscripted online to cast for this, they didn't say we were doing fish tank. They didn't say who was involved. They said we're doing a show for Hulu called famous house. And it's basically Hulu's endeavor to become big. It's Hulu's version of big brother. They're trying to take off.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Except the twist is that afterward you're going to be the protege of Jason Goldman, who they call G, who is Sam Hyde. And so he gets all these people into a house and it starts off like it's literally as a viewer, it's a horror movie because I know what's coming and they don't. And so they're all in there. And so for the first week, two weeks, three weeks, it's amping up slowly, the text to speech in different rooms, Bert, the black ripped urban trainer is a actual schizophrenic. And if you like
Starting point is 01:22:48 watching move around and everything, it's clear like so there's a noise that happens when the text to speech goes off like, and he it the 50th time that it happened, he goes like, like he gets like scared of it each and every time with big, you know, wide eyes. And so the first text to speech, they would, they were telling him that it was a, it was an AI that was analyzing their behaviors and giving them tips and talking to them. And so he would like, he would schizophrenically ask something where he'd be like, I noticed today that another contestant with blue hair, blue has four
Starting point is 01:23:20 letters. Uh, I have reason to believe that this is season three, but actually season four would be the conclusion of the show, uh, computer, what do I need to do with this? And they'll be like, Bert, you are so close to the truth. You must investigate Mizzie's plushies. The secrets are inside. And so he's like sneaking in the middle of the night to like steal stuffed animals from a girl who's like, what are you doing? And he's like schizophrenically running away and then tearing them apart and looking for it. And meanwhile, everyone, and you can like... How does she react to that? Everyone just kind of knows Burt's an oddball and he's also very popular. Everybody like, he's funny. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 01:23:56 because some even adults can't find them to be precious. Like they're like stuffed animals or like childhood heirlooms sort of thing. Do the viewers like him or the other people? Because I... The viewers love him. Like he is five times as popular as the next popular person on the show. Everybody loves Burt cause he's a content machine. And so he's also unbelievably gay and horny or bisexual and horny.
Starting point is 01:24:18 And so like day like two, or actually I think it was day one like 40 minutes after they got there, he went into a room and then like what he calls burning off, he birded off under the covers and then left, went and chatted with everyone, didn't wash his hands, come over, he's chatting with everyone. And then like four hours later, it's time to bird off again. This is all on camera. Sometimes he's, he begins birding off so rapidly.
Starting point is 01:24:45 There's no nudity because he's under the covers, but he goes in there. And so like now it's like he was he was birding off in the middle of the night and he was literally doing this shit that happens in like movies where he was like finishing and you know there's like pixelation over even though it's under the covers you can see they still pixelate the area he's he's birding off and he's like pixelation over even though it's under the coverage. You can see they still pixelate the area. He's burning off and he's like moaning the names of other contestants as he's as he's spurting boys or girls, both. So the first person that he jacked off to was, I think, Luke, who was an actual
Starting point is 01:25:19 Big Brother contestant, who was a plant and they brought on because he got kicked off Big Brother for dropping an N word. And so they brought him on fish tank, which is like an N word allowed big brother. They got him on there. And then, you know, he had to leave. And then when Frank came on, Frank Hassel, if you can show a picture of Frank Hassel, I'd really appreciate it. He's from the from the back. It would be great. There's even been making rounds where his shirt gets torn off of him. Yeah, there's a good one, the shirt getting torn off. Yeah, so this is his back tattoo.
Starting point is 01:25:50 This is a real tattoo. It's a real tattoo. It is the most offensive tattoo I have ever seen in my life. I sent this photo to Woody, like maybe three years ago, and Woody said, I don't easily get offended, but this is incredibly offensive to me. And I was like, yes, I don't find this to be but this is incredibly offensive to me And I was like yes, I don't find this to be funny. This is just a fit. Oh come on. It's pretty it's it's so jarring
Starting point is 01:26:21 I was I'm sorry this jumping this one's not funny to me Taylor. I'm sorry. I guess it's funny in that it's so What's funny about it is that he's done something clearly so horrific to his body permanently just for a joke. And so the idea of the tattoo is funny. How dare you, Cal. Clearly this body is this man's temple. This is a guy who doesn't, who still eats butter. Oh, she ate his fucking shoulder on the way through. He's just harassing people. He's hassling them.
Starting point is 01:26:47 But he came on the show and Frank is a big dude. He looks like he's like barely shorter than Sam Hyde and Sam is a very big guy. Oh, shit. And Frank's also a big fat fella. So he's got a lot of mass. His move seems to be to antagonize people. And then like when they start to fight back, he like lights a cigarette and then just like turns around and leans his big back into them. And they like stumble back and he's just like, like bothering them. But anyway, he,
Starting point is 01:27:12 he came on the show and immediately Jet Neptune, who's the main producer creator of the show, very funny guy himself. He goes to Frank and he's like, Hey, so like the shot that I'm dreaming of. Meanwhile, there's another character named Alex, this white guy who was like a former heroin addict, like, like brain totally fried, doesn't like speak correctly, really speaks correctly. He just doesn't understand information in a quick way. And I would pour gasoline in this motherfucker. I will light this bitch up. You put that motherfucker on me.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Was that what was that fluid? It looked like beer, but I don't know. I'm seeing tobacco spit, but I'm guessing. They always give them tons of cigarettes to smoke in these places. So I'm sure that was like cigarette water that he threw on him. But-
Starting point is 01:28:00 Not as gross, but it's stinky. Yeah. Yeah. You want that? So this, Jett took Frank aside and he like gave him missions. And so there's this one crazy white guy who eventually left, who had been getting harassed by text to speech by someone named Wild Randy. And he believed that Wild Randy was like a person,
Starting point is 01:28:19 that there was a guy named, this guy, this contestant Alex, every time someone would say something mean to him, he'd be like, is that Wild Randy and the boys? Fuck you, wild Randy. It's just like random people text to speech and being like, Hey, what's it cost? You're a pussy. It's like 30, $35 to send one. Yeah. And they're coming in all the time. And so then Frank went in and jet was like, Hey, Frank, you just entered the house. I want you to go make friends with Alex. And the dream shot would be you really talking about how much you think Alex is a cool guy. And then slowly you dropping hints and then Alex realizing that
Starting point is 01:28:52 you're wild Randy and that you're the guy who's been doing. And so it's like the whole thing where, you know, Frank is in there being like, Alex, I'm such a fan of yours, man. I saw your Instagram where you play with Alex has monkeys. And he's like, I saw your Instagram where you play with monkeys. And this guy's like, Oh, that you play with monkeys and this guy's like oh that's so you're like a fan of mine Frank's like yeah so yeah and meanwhile he starts dropping jokes that Wild Randy had been saying until he eventually gets it and he's like you're fucking Wild Randy they brought Wild Randy in here and then like within five seconds like Frank's just bullying the shit out of this guy. He's enormous. But then he also, Jet put him on the task of like,
Starting point is 01:29:25 we want Bert to fall in love with you. And so in the tank, like Bert immediately shows he's attracted to this big, hairy what are they called? Bear, a bear. Yeah. And so like someone asked early on and Frank played it so well where Bert was like, Frank, are you straight? And Frank's like, no, I'm bi. And immediately Bert's like getting hard. He has to like go upstairs and bird off just the idea of that big bear. Maybe being the idea.
Starting point is 01:29:59 He's literally doing like a little schizophrenic, like quick jog. And he goes up in his heat because he gets the penthouse. He's alone in his room, goes under the covers, pulls the covers up really high and then bursts off from the outside of the blanket and then goes down there. I don't want to get away from from fish tank, but that guy, we knew that guy who made he was like a YouTuber, PJ, and we'd be playing Cod. And he'd be like, be back. I got to go jerk off. And he'd be gone for like a game of Cod and he'd be back. Like, all right, I'm good now.'d be like, I be back, I gotta go jerk off. And he'd be gone for like a game of COD
Starting point is 01:30:25 and he'd be back like, all right, I'm good now. It's like, what? I know this, I've been there for this too. Yeah. And I, You think he was being funny or he's being serious? No, he's being serious. And I was like, bro, that's kind of weird,
Starting point is 01:30:41 like socially inappropriate to just be like, hey guys, I'm gonna go jerk off. And he's like, what? No, it's a masculine thing, it's fine. Just let you know I'm getting all Talking to you boys and shoot God gotta get those numbers up. Yeah, remember his name I'm trying to call him PJ PJ cool guys. Yeah He bought Hutch his first capture card. That's a little ancient history Oh, yeah, such couldn truly old lore hutch was a waiter couldn't afford a fucking capture card for YouTube
Starting point is 01:31:09 And PJ is like an Indian guy who had rich parents He was one of those fellers and and he was like I got you bro and like hooked him up And so that got him some clout in the YouTube gaming. I can see you attributed towards that I wasn't a youtuber at the time. I was a fan and I contributed towards that. I wasn't a YouTuber at the time. I was a fan. And it wasn't, I'm sure PJ bought the capture card, but I think he also needed to buy an HD monitor to use it.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Like he was previously using a television. So he sort of crowdsourced to that. And I put in $20 towards helping Hutch get a monitor. Oh, I'm about to pay for a grown ass man's TV set. He was young. I was like an IT professional and he's a waiter trying to make YouTube videos. And I learned from and I probably did contribute. I'm just teasing.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yeah. So Bert and Frank were now in the tank together and Frank was in there for a while before he started hassling people. But when he did start hassling, he was like really bullying the shit out of the Indian guy. Alex, the white guy got it the hardest. What's the Indian guy's name? Does he have a fun name? Symbol, like S-I-M-B-A-L, Symbol.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Hilarious. Yeah, and so like the Indian guys in there, he was hassling the girls pretty good, but he wasn't hassling Burt. And so Burt would go to him and be like, at one point Burt said, you're the most incredible man I've ever met. To Frank Hassel, like covered in water and like cigarette
Starting point is 01:32:35 ash after just like, just after like just coming down from one of the girls bedrooms where he had stolen all their clothes and stapled them to the drywall, like out of reach, so all their clothes are gone now, just pouring stuff on him and and Burt is like all in with this romance and Frank is like playing it so well being like, Burt went in to kiss him and Frank went like, oh man, I can't right now, I just got out of something pretty abusive, I don't know if I'm ready yet. And then Frank's like, oh, I, or Burt's like, I totally get it. Yeah, that I've been in the same situation. And Frank's and he's like, but you think like maybe sometime soon. And Frank's like, definitely.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Then they continue on. And this it gets to like a head where like, Frank is like getting in physical altercations where and it would be difficult to watch if it was just Frank bullying them and they weren't able to hit it back. But the way it works is like anything that Frank visits upon you, the contestants can visit on him too. So at the end of all these seasons,
Starting point is 01:33:37 Frank is like the most beat up, like, cause he's getting hit a lot and attacked. If you bring that picture back up, Zach, of his back, he posted this and he's like, Hey, do you see those two dark marks down near my belt? That's when I was crushing Mizzie's down there in the middle of his back towards the bottom, apparently while he was crushing this girl's suitcase, she grabbed a pen and stabbed him twice in the back. Good.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Oh, in the bottom center is the bottom of that. Yeah, the bottom center there. And then that top thing is he fell on a staircase harder than I've ever seen anyone fall because they were having a giant, you were having an enormous. Can I just interject? I thought that was part of the tattoo. For some reason, that huge red mark at the top
Starting point is 01:34:19 is clearly a wound. Yeah, no, I instantly identified it as someone who's good at gravity. Yeah, let's let me find Wow, he does look scary big like he looks like he could play like a killer for like like Jason, one of those guys who that you want to be burly terrifying guy playing play this. Okay, I know you say you can give it back to him but he's
Starting point is 01:34:40 ginormous. I Yeah, I hear I don't want to stop your flow Taylor. Yeah, I'll go through any questions and whatnot. But yeah, here's the clip of the whole floor is coated in nonsense. No! Oh! He fell.
Starting point is 01:34:56 He fell four way, boys. He falls again, because there's nothing but like- Give me that shit, motherfucker! Time's up! The guy who was yelling right there in the green shirt at the table is a homeless alcoholic who they brought on the show
Starting point is 01:35:14 who is constantly threatening to kill people. Just in passing. He got so mad at Frank two days ago that he shattered a plate and wanted to cut him with a piece of ceramic and like no weapons guys. Let's keep it to spitballs and nonsense. But Richard, how is this vibing for you?
Starting point is 01:35:34 Are you not feeling like there's girls getting bullied? There's a ginormous man in there pouring disgusting fluids on unknowing contestants. People with mental disabilities being taken advantage of. Like I, I, I'm not blind to the entertainment value, but I, I put myself in Bert shoes and I don't know how I leave with dignity. I, I, if Frank Hassel's bullying me, I don't have a recourse. Really? You know what I was thinking? That guy fucks me up. I was thinking I could try. Yeah, what keeps it civil? Is there rules? Is there security?
Starting point is 01:36:14 The rules are that like you're not supposed to get so like basically the whole time. So Frank can't punch someone. Frank can't hit people. Frank's getting punched pretty regularly. He's getting attacked all the time, but he's like mostly shoving like in a leaning way, like doing gross things. But anything he does is allowed. And so by the end, like they're like the contestants are walking by like spitting in his face because Frank had spit on one of them before. Or they're tearing Frank's shirt and clothes off because he had destroyed their clothes. Or they're messing with him in gross ways because he's doing that to them.
Starting point is 01:36:53 And so it's tit for tat. If they weren't allowed to push back on Frank, it wouldn't feel good to watch it because it would be like, all right, this isn't- You're vibing like when my wife was a freshman in high school, she weighed like 73 pounds and she was being bullied on the bus by this 200 pound Hispanic senior. So her father gave her permission to hit back.
Starting point is 01:37:18 That's what you're doing right now. You're like, hey, all right, small Asian chick who got thrown to the ground. You're allowed to hit him back like what is she supposed to play i would like to see this one okay watches frank get straight up attacked by this oh no this is restart this one because this is just going that they're Two boss and they get to see both things. I see one. Play the other one, Zach, the most recent one I sent. So this is a good example of it.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Frank is destroying this girl's stuff, but he's not getting physical with her. He's not going to hit her. And she launches into an actual attack. She defends herself. What the fuck? You're gonna come out and get stabbed in the nose. That's enough of that fucking bullshit. Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? Yo.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Get the fuck out. Don't. Don't hit me. Okay, then get out. It's just chill. Yo, you good? You good? He doesn't leave.
Starting point is 01:38:23 He crosses his legs. That's just chill. That's fine. You can't hit me. You're good? She's fine.. You good? You good? He doesn't leave. He crosses his legs. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. Chill. content Like the money or yeah Yeah, it's like a lot of money. What are they? No, do they can't think the incentive is no They're getting voted off like big brother. I Don't know about that's a Taylor question, but I know at the end they they pay prize money and it's significant
Starting point is 01:38:56 I don't remember exactly but it was five ten fifteen thousand dollars or something like that Although at one point I think that that he was like Actually, there is no prize money you get nothing and like did that to him and then he was like, yeah I'm just fucking with you. I'm gonna pay you actually more than I Carefully it could be interpreted as payment was optional. Yeah. Yeah, and like he paid It's wild what he's doing over there I the the text of speech is the scariest part because the clips of it I've seen, one of them is that black guy who's schizophrenic
Starting point is 01:39:31 or whatever and he's in a bunk bed alone. And he interprets that text to speech as like an AI. Like Taylor said, they've told him that that's what it is. And so it's like telling them to do stuff. Where's the speakers? Throughout the house. But I think in that instance, it was in the room with him. It was in the room with him and he was alone at night in bed
Starting point is 01:39:53 and they're like talking to him. You know what I mean? Imagine this schizophrenic man is in a strange house surrounded by strange people in bed alone at night, freaked out already and they're talking to him. That's crazy. Richard, tell me what you really think. How does this vibe for you?
Starting point is 01:40:10 It's hard. Kind of fair. Again, it's something I'm ignorant to. So I don't know if all the people are competing for something and they're- They're competing for $50,000 to be the winner. Okay. So if they're like, hey, all bets are off, I'm excited. If they're all willing, they have the ability to opt out or whatever and they know consenting adults again, you do you.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Yeah, there are times where it's so weird and uncomfortable that it's difficult to watch. Bert, last night they gave him a TV to play Xbox on because they're setting up a new third act for the show. And so they needed just something to take up time. And I'll explain the third act is very funny. And Burt was like playing Xbox and he was by himself and it was a smart TV.
Starting point is 01:40:58 And he was like, can I just like pull up my own, can I pull up the YouTube version of fish tank so I can see what it's like and so he pulled up You can mute these act So he pulled up the YouTube like he looked up fish tank on YouTube and they're like are so many Compilations all about Burt and he put one on and it's like they can see themselves In this one instance, there's no there's no phones. No nothing else. It was just for this one evening They brought a TV in to distract him while they were doing other stuff around the house and he was playing
Starting point is 01:41:29 But then he looked up fish tank and there was a video showing like a lot of Burt's moments so far And he's just watching it and it's him like dancing talking to himself in a mirror Which he did constantly for weeks not knowing he was being filmed just going into the bathroom being like and so we need to make Sure, we do this and it's something i'm worried about Peyton saying that just talking to himself and then he sees a clip of him burning off from the first night and he goes oh gracious me and and then like and so it's it's fully confirmed he's on camera burning off and then like within
Starting point is 01:42:02 within 40 minutes he's jacking off again. Oh, that's again. He just like the dude doesn't care. He's just he's burning off and he's having a great time doing so like I'm team Bert. Bert is the funniest person on the show by far. I want Bert to win. But what they're doing now is there's four contestants left. I think real contestants and now they're bringing six new people tomorrow who also think that it's called Famous House. And so they're going back to Famous House and the four people have to act as though
Starting point is 01:42:36 they haven't been there the whole time. They can't give up that they know production, that they know the true purpose of the game. And if they give it up, they're eliminated. And Jet says, if all of them get eliminated, that they're the true purpose of the game and if they give it up they're eliminated and Jet says if all of them get eliminated that they're gonna have to keep the show going again and one of the new six Contestants will have to be the winner after a new crop of six is brought three weeks from now Which of course seems a little convoluted, but I'm excited to see where it goes because a lot of this is just clearly fly by night Just fun and then other bits of it are very constructed.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Are not in on the gig, right? Richard, right? Richard Ryan, right? Whatever. My bad. It's hard to call them consenting, right? They're being tricked. They were initially, like they thought
Starting point is 01:43:17 it was gonna be a Hulu show. And then as soon as it was, cause it was only like a weekend, maybe even less that they revealed like, this isn't a Hulu show. You're on basically an internet Stanford prison experiment. And immediately a few people left and were like, I can't handle this.
Starting point is 01:43:32 And since then they amped up the TTS, they amp up the intensity. Usually at least based on how previous fish tanks go, the people that survive Frank Castle, they always dropped Frank in for like a three to four day period of just abject horror in the middle. And the people that make it through that and come out the other side are like, I'm in this. All my clothes are covered in mustard. Like
Starting point is 01:43:57 I'm already on the show. I'm going to fucking win. I have to win at this point. And so they're very motivated. The Indian guy is getting bullied a lot by text to speech. Symbol. Oh yeah. Like you could tell that Frank really did not like the Indian guy at all. Cause the Indian guy's like five foot four or something. And Frank is a,
Starting point is 01:44:18 you could literally fit three or four symbols in a Frank if you just like emulsified him and like into a powder style up. And then like, and Frank would walk up to him and he'd be like, Oh, am I bothering you? Am I in your face? And this guy's just like, what the fuck? So he's not a contestant. No, Frank is a member of production. His job is Frank is hired to come in and get as many people to leave as possible. He's trying to get them to quit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:46 And so that's his purpose. Is the contest, I mean, eventually you're down to contestants who don't quit. So how do they choose who won? They do a big final challenge usually, usually for like the last two or three. There will be like a three person thing and then one person gets kicked off through a challenge
Starting point is 01:45:01 and then it's like a head to head, some form of challenge or, you know, the challenges would you call them kind of fair? Uh, no, no, not even, not even close. Like some of the challenges will be like, all right, uh, the season one, they like clearly didn't have a plan for how to end it. And so they just locked the final two people in a room for like four or five straight days and made them do whatever games Sam thought of, where he's
Starting point is 01:45:25 like, this is the handstand challenge, handstand longer, and then just do that. Or like, this is the, this is the, the deviled egg challenge. Whoever can eat more deviled eggs. And meanwhile, it's like, where do they go to the bathroom? There's a bucket in the closet. They have to open the closet and go in there and go to the bathroom and then come back out. And so it's meant to be a hell house. And at any point you can leave, at any point you can leave, just walk away if it's not for you. But here you have empathy. I can't watch this stuff and just enjoy their suffering. Although I did like to see Frank Paul. I just like, I put myself in that position of like Frank pouring that fluid on me. And I'm like, I don't know how I'd respond but I'd feel obligated
Starting point is 01:46:06 To swing fight to give I got right. I have to fight. I guess I would be to lose in this fight. Here we go Taylor says Frank has this opening move where he turns his back to you and moves toward oh my god I'm like, why don't they pull out the chair? This is a basketball thing. Not that I'm some good player, but yeah basketball Let's say you're defending the net and I'm backing up. I'm backing up, right? What your move is, is to just let me fall, right? Pull the chair out from under me. I fall on my ass. I look like an idiot. Oh, Frank seems to take the back. Take the back.
Starting point is 01:46:40 It's a great move. I'll choke you out and hope you piss yourself in front of everybody. You're escalating high. I was just letting them fall on the ground looking at him while I'm still standing. Like that was my thought. Like if this is day one and he's already like trying to humiliate me, it's like, all right, we're gonna fight. Like there's gonna be a fight so we might, oh, oh, I get to win the fight. Well, let's start with a win, you know, like if he's gonna back up, I'm just gonna choke you out.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Yeah, most of what he's doing isn't like he's not punching people I don't think I've ever seen him actually hit someone. I saw him get hit probably a dozen times this season of like throw a woman Punching around. Oh, yeah, she was holding on to that shirt and you know, he needed it back Can't let go and what was funny is like right after that clip like There was one guy who was like clearly, you know the meme of like a guy who's totally like jacked and like the most homophobic dude ever and Secretly gay but like obviously gay there was this dude who would get like blackout drunk every night and every time he would like He would pivot from like seemingly a reasonably chill guy to like just everything was, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:46 him like taking an affront to like Burt being gay or like thinking that people were coming on to him or something. And he punched the shit out of Frank. And Frank like had to back up and you know, because he can't actually get in a fight that's not his job. But so what the audience did, they add these things called fish toys in, which you can pay to send plushies to a, you know, a contestant and they added a new one called gay porn for Connor. And so you could pay like thirty dollars to have explicit full page gay pornography printed out and then they'd bring it up to him and they'd say like, Connor, here's your gay porn. And then they'd bring it up to him and they'd say like, Connor, here's your gay porn. And he'd be like, this shit's fucking gross, dude. And they're like, Connor, you have to read the other page
Starting point is 01:48:28 and thank the person who donated it. And he'd be like, Oh, thanks to 612 KKK man for the gay pornography. And then at one point, like it got so much that like, they were delivering him like every 15, 20 seconds for like 20 minutes to be like gay porn delivery for Connor and then the TTS the whole time is like Connor stop lying you love the gay porn you're horny horny horny horny horny horny horny horny Connor are you a fag Connor like
Starting point is 01:48:56 they're just bullying him and they're just and he's losing his mind like any any normal guy would be like this is hilarious like this is pretty. They're paying this amount of money to send me gay porn. And he's just livid, like screaming. He's so angry about it. And meanwhile, Burt is finding all the discarded gay pornography to keep for himself. So he has a big stack of black and white printed explicit. And he like lifted it up too close to the camera,
Starting point is 01:49:24 just dick and ass. Just like just explicit gay porn that he's taking back and he's getting a little bird off going you know and or dick dick in dick in ass it was like it was it was like the piece of paper was laying down kind of facing the camera across the room and I could see what was happening in the picture that's how big this you know every bit of that eight and a half by eleven was taken up by gay pornography and so they just add little things to troll like that. We need a bro to hook Bert up. A little an angel not a devil. I was gonna, I was like man we should send some lock and load to Bert but I don't
Starting point is 01:50:00 I think that might be a bad move. I think this guy's you know might make him too powerful. Too much of a contender. Yeah. It's, if you haven't checked out fish tank, it's fish tank.live. Very funny entertaining stuff. Sometimes it feels like you click in and it's like, Oh, there's really not much going on right now, but the past week has been nonstop action and entertainment.
Starting point is 01:50:25 So I've really liked I like the idea of those shows. I don't think it's been perfected yet, but what they're doing is really cool. What who was it that did it before? We had him on the show. I'm spacing on his name. He's got a ridiculous voice of a reality show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had the people locked in the house. They had like the paintball guns and stuff.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Ice Poseidon. Ice Poseidon had that robot that the chat could control. I liked that a lot. I think that should be integrated into anything like this. The ability for the chat to take control of a robot with a camera on it and just drive it around for like whatever viewpoint they want is tremendous. I remember we would watch watch three different cams, when something crazy was happening.
Starting point is 01:51:08 And one of the cams you'd watch was the Robocam, and they put a steak knife on the robot, so it had a little steak knife it's walking around with. So you can't just ignore it, you gotta keep your eye on the box. It's trying to do upskirts the whole time, it's great. That robot was the star of the show. You wake up and you look at the side of the bed and the robot
Starting point is 01:51:26 just standing there with a steak knife watching just stab you in the air an hour and a half how is that Poseidon doing now like I don't know what he's up to I bet he's last I heard he did that crypto rug pull thing and then just took his money and rode off into the sun I thought he paid people back I thought he paid people back was the deal. I was told he paid people back.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Which, you know, I don't know. I was thinking about- He's streaming on kick, I think. Me and Harley were talking about Vitaly the other day. You know, Vitaly Z. You remember him? Yeah, prank guy. Yeah, he got in that mess in Florida. then uh, but now he's doing the pedophile
Starting point is 01:52:08 Cat cat catcher show like he's uh, i've seen a couple of them He did the one where the old guy showed up to meet some little boy on the street and then like the The difference is they're live streaming while they're catching child predators So people who are watching the live stream who live in the area can just show up. And that's what happened. Some dude in the area shows up and runs over and he's like, injects himself into the conversation between the crew that's streaming
Starting point is 01:52:38 and Vitaly and the child predator. And he said, I think he might've said something like, I got touched when I was a kid or something like that. I'm imagining that but he lays that old man out. He lays the old man out like and he does one of those I'm unconscious immediately. I'm gonna fall straight down like a log hitting the ground and hits the concrete Meanwhile, the dude that threw the punch is gone. He's running so fast Yeah, it's beard into the ether and it's like man lif streams crazy now They catch child predators and assault them. I've seen those now. He paid one third back and kept two-thirds for himself That's fair. That's fair Dude you bought you bought ice coin. What did you want? Oh
Starting point is 01:53:23 Just last thing on fish tank that that clip I showed you of Frank being punched in the head by that girl Peyton That was the first clip from fish tank of any of the three seasons to go Absurdly viral and it got like 30 million views on on Twitter a shit. Oh, wow. And so there were Thousands and thousands of comments who had no idea what was happening and never in my life But I think that when fish tank finally went viral it would be tons of people Siding with Frank Hassel that this woman was engaging in domestic abuse
Starting point is 01:53:59 And so there were people being like who the hell's that white knight coming at the end telling him to leave Does he not know that that woman just abused him and beat him people being like, who the hell's that white knight coming at the end, telling him to leave? Does he not know that that woman just abused him and beat him? People being like, yeah, there were some, some misogynists in there being like women always get away with this kind of stuff. Meanwhile, like Frank's been harassing her and bothering her. Frank went in the comments and said, uh, uh, it's a reality TV show, dude, calm down. And the guy's's like you're just a victim blaming and Frank's like she punched me because I had been just like ignoring
Starting point is 01:54:34 her stealing her clothes and like putting it in the toilet or whatever and so yeah it's it's fun there's a good bit of justice at the end of it they the way they got rid of Frank is they made all the contestants pay to make him leave because they get these pieces of laminated cardboard that say fish bucks. It's like a dollar, but it's a fish buck and each one is worth a hundred dollars at the end and you get them as like little incentives. And Sam went to everyone who was like, how much would you pay in fish bucks if I get rid of Frank right now?
Starting point is 01:55:03 And they're like, like eight fish bucks, man. Like, I just want this guy gone. He went through everyone. And at the end, Sam was like, so we're all super thankful for Frank coming here. Let's give him a round of applause. Everyone's like covered in like mustard and ketchup and sweaty and disgusting. And they've got like cigarette ash all over him. Frank is like wounded and like got stab wounds. And so Sam goes, all right, I think the way we're gonna do this is, everyone grab your fish bucks and I want you to walk up to Frank. I want you to hand him the fish bucks
Starting point is 01:55:31 and I want you to say thank you, Frank. And so he made all of them walk up and give huge, I think he made like $4,000 that these people had made in prizes just to get rid of him. They didn't know that he was leaving anyway, but you know Very would have paid a dime like if you're at that point if he's asking then he's about to leave anyway I'd be like let's wait and see guys. I think you're gonna leave anywhere This is like 30 minutes after he took that fall and I was I saw that and I get he might need to go to
Starting point is 01:55:59 the hospital like I Don't I could never do that that show was great for for entertainment value for watching But I could never compete in the show like that because because I feel like it were just gonna fight now Like my okay, it's time to fight level is just lower than that show allows for yeah And I'm not saying I'm gonna win the fight or anything It's just like I I think the rules say I now have to strike you sir and so here and it has begun I've often been told like no, what are you not supposed to hit people when they just used words? Like I have a vastly different moral code than that. But you can't say anything you want I think you're obligated to return that kind of language with violence. That's it. And hopefully I'm not full of shit
Starting point is 01:56:40 I hope that I would try you know, yeah, it this huge. I'm not claiming I can beat that guy You might have a hundred pounds. I mean, that's a lot. Yeah, but uh Dude somebody surprises me and I swing I mean they did let after it came after Frank admitted that he was a paid actor and that he was not gay and Burt was never gonna get To fuck him Burt was like see thing and that he was not gay and Bert was never going to get to fuck him. Bert was like seething and furious. And so Sam let them box each other to, to do it. Bert has no idea.
Starting point is 01:57:14 Like I was watching it and I'm like, Bert is the least athletic Jack guy I've ever seen. That came to light yesterday when he had all the contestants do polygraphs with embarrassing questions. And it turns out that Bert has muscle implants in his arms, lats, shoulders. And so he's not actually and his ass, he's not jacked. He's just like a guy with muscle implants. He was like, frantically swinging at Frank and Frank didn't get any good
Starting point is 01:57:35 hits on him really either. It was clear that Frank was holding back a little bit at one point, like before the fight, I saw Sam like lean in and talk to Frank. And so I wouldn't be surprised it was like hey you can't you can't be on the field. Is Frank skilled? No he doesn't out of box he really doesn't out of box but he's an enormous guy and two people who don't know how to box the guy who's huge is probably gonna win but it was a it was like more like a allowing a cathartic experience for Burt because it was like in any way a wash. No one really got a huge hit.
Starting point is 01:58:06 But afterward, everyone's like, yeah, Burt and Burt's like fans in the air, like Rocky just stoked on his victory and everyone's everyone's happy for that. So I just I mean, it's really the Burt show in some ways. He believes it'll suck. Show Burt again, because now that I know he has muscle implants, I want to see if I could like notice that I want to see his physique knowing that they're implants because I don't know I guess I really paid much attention, but I definitely thought he vibed as jacked black dude. He fooled me Yeah, I didn't see anything wrong with the way he looks you sometimes see these guys
Starting point is 01:58:36 Nobody looks more naked man than me. I thought I'd spot but Jacked I wonder how much the implants cost I know guys who do calf implants like regularly like that That's probably one of the more popular ones for if you're you're helpless if you don't they don't grow. Yeah Yeah, you just imagine being able to just instantly have I saw I saw a YouTube video and the guy was like wow They look real his triceps underdeveloped was like, wow, they look real. His triceps looked underdeveloped, but his biceps looked real and big. Yeah, and his lats.
Starting point is 01:59:11 Yeah, his lats for sure. Oh, now he looks beefy as fuck. Wow. That's from his sex worker profile. Oh, really? Knowing that they're fake, I can't spot that they're fake. I can't, no. I mean they did a good job. Sometimes I see ab implants. You know people whose abs look flexed all the time. That's fake. Seeing him do physical challenges though it makes so much more
Starting point is 01:59:37 sense after knowing that they're not real muscles because it was like how can you know how to lift weights at all and not know how to like move your body? Real right like I doubt he looks like Urkel. Oh, yeah He's really like working out, but he's not a not a strong guy For how big he looks I should say yeah, I have so much empathy I don't that shows not for me like it I can I can acknowledge what a great job He's doing and he's hitting his own bullseye. It's just not the same as mine. Yeah. The part there when I was watching like Bert, like there were parts of me I'm like, Oh my god, how is this guy going to handle realizing that
Starting point is 02:00:13 he's been burning off in front of people for weeks? And like, is he gonna prank us and that Frank is lying to him? And then we're gonna have him. it turns out this guy is beyond resilient like he immediately drops a previous thing and then he's on to the next conspiracy like all it takes like like two seconds after Burt he realizes Frank's not gonna fuck him like someone in text to speech is like Burt you've never been closer think about it three letters three years three seasons and he's and then he's like pacing around for the next 10 minutes, like three. What could that possibly mean? Do they mean three?
Starting point is 02:00:47 And then he's like making these because he's apparently like a very high IQ person. And so he's quickly making associations, but the associations don't make sense. Very, very entertaining. But like he just he doesn't seem bothered. He's moisture. More issue. I'm less into the bullying and more into things like obstacle courses Um and like like eating gross stuff and and and the end like weird sleeping conditions
Starting point is 02:01:11 I really like that text-to-speech Can be employed to harass them at night and throw off their sleep But I don't think I would want it like during the day during main challenges and stuff um to to me, I I really like my idea of buying like 15 single wide trailers that are that are like cheap as fuck and fusing them together into a complex where they have to like make this elaborate, elaborate that I create by like attaching them all in a weird pattern and having them try to escape it. I would like something like that. I daydream of going a different way. I would love for like, you've spent time
Starting point is 02:01:48 with Joe Lozan's little brother, Dan, right? Yeah. When I talk to this man, I feel like I'm dealing with an untamed predator, right? Like this, I am all like, mind your piece. Like alien predator or? Nah, like a wild man who might like just get drunk and go beat somebody.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Like Woody, do you wanna play with a Jaguar? Like, oh, I guess. Like this is super dangerous. I rolled with this guy, he hurt me. And like I was at Joe's wedding, right? And I'm with Dan and his friends and they're drinking at the wedding. And the whole time I'm just nervous.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Like everything about them exudes, I'm about to hurt him, I'm about to fuck somebody up. And I want that guy on this house. I don't see him bothering Bert or any of these girls, but when Frank Hassel tries to push around a guy like Dan Lozan. Oh, kill him. Dan gets pushed around for one second before he decides this is too much for him. the guy that the asshole tries to push around a guy like Dan
Starting point is 02:02:45 Lozan. Oh, kill him. Dan gets pushed around for one second before he decides this is too much. That's Dan fighting his brother, Joe Lozan, by the way in a backyard friendly uh MMA bout. Uh just skip to like the middle of it and they're
Starting point is 02:03:01 throwing hard as **** This is their family picnic. They did a family reunion. I'm sorry, Tyler, I didn't want to do this. Can I take over? Yeah. So what happened was, if you could show this, I'm sure Joe won't copy right as they were at a family reunion. And I guess Dan was just being a little too exert, like big personality and talking about how tough he was. And Joe's father, who I think might be named Joe also, was like, all right, Joe, show him what's up. And so this is Joe and his brother, his brother, by the way, I think youngest UFC fighter ever.
Starting point is 02:03:40 But Joe had like recently competed professionally and was kind of in peak shape. This is Joe's explanation. His shorts have his name on them. I mean, they just keep clubs around. Dude, this is family reunion shit. Half of the people watching this are also fighters at the professional or amateur level.
Starting point is 02:04:02 And like, they're not fucking around. I'm waiting for Joe to throw like effectively. He moved backwards. That's great. Look at the slam. Oh, the double. Joe gets the best of him. And then I, for some reason Dan didn't like the way it ended. So he like maybe threw a pot shot and then they go again and Joe beats him twice before it's generally accepted that Joe's got him. This is Joe's day But yeah human beings this upbringing creates
Starting point is 02:04:32 And their whole friend group is like maybe not this particular guy also like fighters who were just ready to Throw down and I want to see this breed of human in the fish tank and then like Frank Hassell Getting what he deserves. That's my Job Not nice like it's not nice well, they kind of had that remember, you know, when you had the ultimate fighter they'd be in that house and It was always so insane to me that they had like an open bar in that house. There was just bottles of liquor and beer.
Starting point is 02:05:11 And I'm sure if you were like, I only drink Coors Light, they'd have been like, well, here's a case. You know, I think they were fueling the reality show with alcohol as much as they were, you know, fistfights in the ring. And some of those guys, I can't remember who it was, the guy who's like, let me bang, bro. Let me bang. Like there were several drunken meltdowns on that show where guys were under a lot of stress and had substance abuse problems and were in a house full of bullies. Like, yeah, exactly. And on top of that, they
Starting point is 02:05:43 intentionally deprived them of things that might make them like settle down. Like, like, yeah, exactly. And on top of that, they intentionally deprive them of things that might make them like settle down. Like they couldn't read books, they couldn't surf the internet, they didn't have phones. They just put them in there and made it as much of a powder keg as possible. Boredom and alcohol go. Oh, and fighters. And it was pretty great. It had a good run. I don't know. I don't think they're still on. And then somebody would like snap and like hit somebody and Dana White would be like I can't
Starting point is 02:06:08 believe you What what do you what do you some kind of 22 year old drunk mixed martial arts fighter in a house Astro levels actually this all checks out. Sorry. I busted in on you guys whoop his ass again See y'all later like that's what I should do. It's it's like what do you expect them to be doing in this house? I haven't liked reality shows in so long like the real reality on television I can't remember the last one that I like enjoyed I remember I watched this or one of those survival shows where they put a couple two or three teams I can't remember in Alaska to survive.
Starting point is 02:06:46 And it seemed really poorly thought out because they allowed this sort of loophole where you could Frank Hassel the other team and they didn't really have any recourse. And so these boss bitches just went and picked on this guy who was all by himself and stole all of his stuff. And then he's like having to guard his stuff. He has to sit on it or they'll steal it. And they're like, there's more of us. We'll just wait till you have to guard his stuff. He has to sit on it or they'll steal it and they're like There's more of us. We'll just wait till you have to go get food
Starting point is 02:07:09 Zero degrees at night. You can't steal my sleeping bag all Life below zero is probably yeah, that's the one that I've probably watched last Yeah, I hated that I hated that so much It made no sense. I would give Survivor another chance. Modern Day Survivor is a manipulation strategy game that was so much better than I expected it to be. And I think it's all pretty true that or I'm a sucker that that could be possible. And I often watch these shows, insert myself and in my imagination as like, you know, like I'd be good at it. No, man. These guys are
Starting point is 02:07:53 way better at Survivor than I could be on my best day. They're very clever. They're experienced. They've watched all 37 seasons. It's something really high like that. And I'm just blown away by watching their strategy and how they play and manipulate. Like some people lie all the time, some people tell the truth all the time, but most of the people try to tell the truth as much as possible and not get caught in their lies, which turns out to be a lousy strategy. Like if you're a snake and you as a snake, then I know what I'm dealing with. But if you're a snake and you present as a sheep, then we have a problem. Now I need to get rid of you. You're not what you said. Yeah. You can't be trusted.
Starting point is 02:08:35 I feel like the social part of Survivor is the part I'm less worried about getting eliminated because of. It'd be more like- Challenges? is the part I'm less worried about getting eliminated because of. Really? It'd be more like- Challenges? Yeah, like just like, I've seen enough Survivor, I haven't seen a ton, but it's like tons of people make it to the middle of the pack and later, just by not putting a target on their own back,
Starting point is 02:08:55 not being like obstinate or arrogant or, you know, because there's always gonna be a ton of people who are like putting- You would be Really good at some of the physical tasks, right? Like some shit is like hey, we've got Seven rocks. We have to hold them above your head. I give you two. I'd take one we do well, right? Like that's so you're useful for that, but that might get you voted off. Are you a hero in a challenge? Well, you sound dangerous. you need to go. And it, like you said, the tallest flower gets plucked.
Starting point is 02:09:30 But the worst one, you don't wanna be a non-growing, you don't wanna be a total person who causes your team to lose every challenge either, you don't want to be the anchor, the anchor in a way that holds you down, not like. You wanna be like a median competitor. Which is hard to be. And every time someone becomes like the head of the snake,
Starting point is 02:09:51 like, all right, look at this. I have an alliance of five people and I'm kind of running this show. Then, you know, the person who's the fifth highest on your alliance will turn on you and now you lose. Survivor is so much better than I expected it to be. I should watch a new season. You know what would take off
Starting point is 02:10:07 and be the biggest reality show on TV? Fear factor. If Joe Rogan came back and did Fear Factor, and they would have to call it that too. Joe Rogan's Fear Factor. Yeah, they would. I'd be like, yo, put my fucking name in it. They need to know.
Starting point is 02:10:22 Have you heard those clips of him from probably years ago at this point on his podcast talking about it? Oh yeah. He'd be like, they had some comedian on and he's like, yeah dude. And then there was this whole bit where like they had to drink like donkey cum or horse piss. And I'm watching these people like, you guys are fucking disgusting. Like this is only 50 grand and you're drinking horse cum on television. Like
Starting point is 02:10:47 yeah, I was grossed out. I almost vomited. Again, I put myself on that show imaginarily. The eating contests are the ones that I think I could endure the bugs crawling on me. A lot of them were like drowned based and I'd be very strong there even today. Oh yeah. Cause I don't have the fear of water that those people seem to, but the food lines. What about heights? I'm fine. They always put a rope on you anyway. What do you like that heights?
Starting point is 02:11:14 Acrobatic paramotor. Not that I'm not scared, but I would push through it. Skydive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna say like I'm still scared, but I do it. They put a whole harness on you and they have I don't know what they call it But they've got one of those lines that's got tension on it So you just slowly fall to the ground people like the heights Bull riding episode was ridiculous because they just got on a fucking bull and did it ride
Starting point is 02:11:40 Yeah, and it fucked, you know, it's throwing them, you know, and it's little girls and men. And that's the most dangerous sport in the world. Right. Like I think it is. Yeah. I mean, per capita it has to be. It's a bull. Crazy. Would you try if you were on the show? Like I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to win. Have you seen their bull riding episodes? Those guys aren't wearing cowboy hats and spurs like the professional bull riders. They're wearing like, like a crash dummy suit. They got a best no, they've got that thing on their neck rigid that goes down to like here.
Starting point is 02:12:15 I don't want to put my teeth on the back of a bull skull. Like I feel like that's a good way to lose your teeth. That's a good way to lose your nose. Yeah. That thing is a, wouldn't you be tempted though? Like you do in the bull riding episode and all the other guys are putting on the full suit And then you're thinking about grandpa's gonna see this What would grandpa want you and you like put that cowboy hat on you just slide on to a raw dog Immediately die or just a scenario is I'm thrown off at two seconds awarded no points and I'm not injured. That's the best possible So no, no, you got to play some country music in your head to believe you
Starting point is 02:12:50 Should have been a cowboy When you said play country music in your head, though, my instinct was that little ditty from deliverance from deliverance. I would also have been right. Yeah, no, I thought that was super dangerous. They made them eat these cave spiders. And these cave spiders have like pinchers and they're very pokey. They have like pokey pinchers so that like their predators don't want to eat them. They almost look like a spider with thorns at its angles, like where it where
Starting point is 02:13:27 its legs make bends. There's like thorns growing, growing off. And so they had to eat those alive and they're fighting to not be eaten so much that the people's mouths are bleeding. Like it's it's fighting so much to not be eaten alive that it's cutting them. And they have to eat like multiple of these. It may have even I think maybe they did some bullshit like they rolled dice and whatever you rolled was how many fucking the cave spiders you had.
Starting point is 02:13:52 And it's like, all right, five it is. Holy shit. Eat five cave spiders. That I remember thinking I don't think I can do that. And maybe if I like could smush it up first first and make a paste of it and eat that, like then it's just grossness. If I were to- There was one that went like this.
Starting point is 02:14:09 So the contestant had to lay in a bathtub filled with leeches and their teammates had to use their mouth to remove the leeches from the contestant. But a leech got in the contestant's mouth who coughed it up and spat it out. But the leech had done its thing. And now there's like all this blood coming out with the leech cause it was on the inside
Starting point is 02:14:33 of their mouth, their throat or something. There's some rough contests. It's disgusting. Like I agree with you that I would rather do a physical challenge, a scary challenge. What would actually intimidate me on a show like that is like, all right, it's the roach bowl clear up, like time to eat. Like I have, I would be the worst girl at giving head. I have such a bitch gag reflex. Like if I see, I can see someone like-
Starting point is 02:15:01 You don't give yourself enough credit, Taylor. You were fine. No, next time I'll show you my improvements, but Yeah, that's just that's even Wow that thing's pokey that's demonic Demon spider it's soft. Yo crap Like I feel like I want to gag Like I feel they're looking at it through the crab lens. Maybe that's your this is where your shine No, no, cuz we're not cracking it open and eating the succulent delicious crab meat. These are the rules.
Starting point is 02:15:29 That's a bug. That's a bug and it's going to tear my mouth up. Crabs are not bugs. They're crustaceans. They're sea bugs. Crustaceans are bugs. No, they're not. I mean, not literally, but they're like, they're very much the insects of the sea. I mean, not literally, but they're like, they're very much the insects of the sea. Okay, but they're not bugs. They're tasty, they're delicious.
Starting point is 02:15:51 They're wonderful. Bugs could be tasty and delicious. I don't know where we're going there. No, they cannot. Fuck off. Nobody's eating tasty bugs. Are spiders bugs? So what I'm-
Starting point is 02:16:01 In this conversation, we're like, yes. Okay, are caterpillars bugs? Okay, so it depends on all these things in our in this in the context of this conversation all these little creepy crawlies are bugs. Okay, so they're all arthropods much like crustaceans bugs. Yeah, and what do people call crawfish? crawdads mud bugs that's racist a mud bug I never heard mud bugs yeah there's always butterflies caterpillars etc regardless if it was a crab eating competition I would oh my god it could be the rest of the survival island versus me. And it would be a fight. It'd be, it'd be, it'd be brutal. Man.
Starting point is 02:16:57 Next time I cross the Mississippi, I have to stop over and just take Taylor to dinner. I want to witness this spectacle. Bring some money. It gets, it gets at a two piece crab cracker and screws it together. Right? Like a pool player with his own stick. He's got his own bib he puts on, his monogram. I told you I went to like my friend's crab boil. His bib says death before dishonor.
Starting point is 02:17:21 Death before dishonor? I have a bib and it has that Roman SPQR thing on it. That's how serious I take it, like I'm a warrior. I went to my friend's big crab boil a year or so ago, and it wasn't snow crab. Snow crab is 100% always my choice crab, if I have the option. It was blue crab, and those are the small ones
Starting point is 02:17:42 that you have to, a lot of the meat is in the body itself. And so you have to break fresh water. Yeah. And I, I don't know. I thought they're like, I thought he's got it from, but I don't know. Regardless. He brought it. Like he bought so many of these fucking things and no one at that party had any stick to it of this in the crab game other than me. And so like everybody else got like two of them and like kind of picked at it and was like, this is too much work. I, like a scientist, socratically figured out
Starting point is 02:18:13 the most efficient way to break it over the course of my first two. And then once I had it down pat, I must've eaten 10 more because no one else was eating them. And so like, it was like 40 minutes into my girlfriend, my friend, their wives and girlfriends, like all them chatting watching the Mizzou game at the time. And I'm like at the bar table overlooking it just still feasting.
Starting point is 02:18:36 Cause in my head I'm like, when's the next time you're guaranteed to get crab, you don't know. And so let's know. This is the mindset of like a puma Gorgling on a rotten deer or something. 100% I don't know when the next time I'm gonna get it. My friend's like, do you want a beer? I'm like, I won't waste the stomach space. You can buy beer anywhere. You can't get crab anywhere. Yes, you can. You can order it off the internet. I'm in Missouri. We don't. Well, yeah,
Starting point is 02:19:03 you can do the internet thing, but it's real expensive to get it shipped here. It's so expensive. And it was delicious blue crab because he paid a fuck ton of money to have an inordinate amount of them shipped to his house overnight on ice. And then we ate them. It was great.
Starting point is 02:19:16 Still, we- Distant second to a snow crab. I've got king crab legs. I've ordered king crab legs off the internet before. King's fine. They're enormous. That's what I like about them. I like that you have these huge hunks of meat. They're not a good kraken crab. You need tools to get those out. With a snow crab, you can do all hands. I just remember I got them and I cooked them.
Starting point is 02:19:35 Well, you can. I'm sorry. The girl I was with was like, I don't eat seafood. And I was like, I've cooked four pounds of crab legs here. What do you mean you don't eat seafood? He was like, I've cooked four pounds of crab legs here. What do you mean you don't eat seafood? He's like, ooh, those are so big. Those are gross. And I'm like, are you kidding? You have to eat. I have a lot of crab meat.
Starting point is 02:19:51 You're a dumb bitch. Dude, I'm so good at crab cracking. I could bamboozle you with movements and then pull a big piece of leg out from behind your ear. That's terrible. Ooh, in the butter. Dude. Taylor and my imaginary dinner.
Starting point is 02:20:04 I want you to do that. I would. If we ever do an IRL PKA or something, it's a guarantee. Crab. We're doing it at a seafood restaurant. And like other people in my life, you're going to go into it with this feeling of like, because I'm known for this in my friend group and word passes. And you're going to sit there and be like, I can't wait to see Taylor eat crab.
Starting point is 02:20:25 It's not gonna be until like two hours into the meal that it really sets in like how gross what you're watching is, the level of gluttony, the pile, the ever increasing pile of shells, the shrapnel. You're joking with two hours though, right? I will eat and then you can eat and eat. Yeah, I'll sit there for two hours and eat crab, 100%.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Yeah, so like our family reunions, that's what we would eat. Blue crab. So like, I was from Florida. And so like the St. John's River there is where we get a lot of the blue crab from. And no shit, family reunions, we'd probably be boiling 10 pots of them. We'd take seven picnic tables and run them parallel. Families all on the side and you take them, you just dump the pots onto the table and everybody's just cracking and fucking throwing, cracking and throwing. Yeah. That's fine. So you're pretty quick. What's that? How many people attend to your family reunion?
Starting point is 02:21:19 It sounds like a huge affair. Well, it was probably 30 or 40 people Back when I was a kid now Really nobody yeah Yeah But yeah, it was to blue crab and it's the move and it's so easy to clean the race How long is the race? I don't think you told us only doing a 5k because like my mom She's like 75 and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:21:46 So originally, I was going to do a mud run and have everybody. But the more I started thinking about it, I thought I was kind of fucked up because people's egos would push them to want to do the obstacles and everything else. I don't want people to get hurt. So side rant here, I've been writing a book the last eight months. And then going through this whole and hold this this whole process. Actually, I'm going to get some help from Taylor here in a minute. I'll have you pick
Starting point is 02:22:15 something out for the book for me. But I've been assessing things that I value in life will say because I the books on addiction and you know and how digital addiction specifically has kind of...I haven't established boundaries in me being a content creator and my consumption with my phone and everything else. It's led me to realize certain aspects of my life that I either neglected or has just completely gone by. And I'll tell you real quick, one of the things then, kind of the research of this
Starting point is 02:22:53 was, listening to Neil deGrasse Tyson, of all things, talk about the life of a dog being seven years in a dog's life being the equivalent to one of a person's. It's really hard. Perspective is a hell of a thing. It's hard to really put that into perspective. If you do it more narrow, say one day of your life is equivalent of seven or a week of your dogs. day of your life is equivalent of seven or a week of your dogs. And I was like, oh shit, like, oh my God, like, all the time that I'm traveling and stuff, I really care about my dogs. That's why I say like, Woody, you know, having kids and everything, like, I can only imagine when you start looking at things that you frivolously like spend your time on. For me, like, yeah, and Again, I'm big on quotes,
Starting point is 02:23:45 but one of the quotes that I have in the book was like, time is the only currency that you spend that you never know what your remaining balance is. Spend it wisely. I started thinking about these things and for me, I was like, what do I value? What do I really care about in life? Scrolling on Instagram, and I was doing insight,
Starting point is 02:24:10 like looking at my analytics on my phone and how many pickups I had in a day, how much time I was spending on the platforms. Am I really posting? No, I'm not fucking posting content. I'm consuming, I'm scrolling. It's like, well, it's robbing me of time with the things that I care about. I was like, okay, I need to actively figure out things that I can do in
Starting point is 02:24:30 my life that are reinforced in the things that I do care about. I was like, okay, well, fuck it. I want my family to be healthy. What's something that I could come up with that allows us to get together, compete or something like that, set a common goal that we collectively to get together, compete or something like that, set a common goal that we collectively move towards something, and it gives us an excuse to hang out a couple of times a week or whatever it is, a meal. So that's how I got on the whole race thing.
Starting point is 02:24:57 The more I started thinking about it, I was like, oh, a mud run would be fun because selfishly I want to do a mud run. But then I started thinking about my 75 year old mom and everybody else who might not be as in good shape. I was like, let's do a 5K walk it, you know, asphalt, whatever you want to do, just let's have a good time. It'll be on Thanksgiving day and everything else.
Starting point is 02:25:16 So that's kind of how I got to the family fitness challenge thing is that I want to prioritize things that I care about in life or that I value a little bit more than those things that are just kind of wasting away. Do you think your brother-in-law thinks he's going to beat you? Oh, I don't know. Okay. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:25:37 You're like, my brother-in-law might give me a run for my money, but that's delusional. I'm paraphrasing. I'm like, I wonder what his perspective is on this. Oh no, I would fucking, I would have a heart attack before I lost that. I would like, I would know shit. Maybe he's saying the same. Yeah, but I'm six foot three, man.
Starting point is 02:25:56 I'll pull five minute miles. I don't care. Like I will, I will, I will. He runs everyday. Without a bike. Yeah. No. Yeah. I do five minutes.
Starting point is 02:26:10 I've never ran a five minute mile in my life. Five minute miles slow for me, but I typically don't do it on foot. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've run a lot of them and scientifically no one here can disprove that and let me tell you, it's not that hard. What you got to do is you got to want it. What's in your hand, Taylor? Oh, that's a, that's a nicotine addiction. What you got to do is you got to want it. What's in your hand, Taylor?
Starting point is 02:26:25 That's a nicotine addiction. It's an important part of being a runner. You always have such wholesome goals and projects. I love that about you and what you do where it's like, I'm going to start a project where it's about getting my whole family healthy and we all spend time together. Like, that's great. I'm going to try to get it's about getting my whole family healthy and we all spend time together Like that's great Unlovable dogs more love Yeah
Starting point is 02:26:50 I was gonna ask you that the dogs that you got there do they have any sort of cool history or are those just? Regular old dogs like that. Like did those dogs go to Iraq and get blown up or anything crazy? You're always doing sort of hero dog stuff. Well, they do have cool stories. Uh, the the mal know, um, he's he's He's kind of uh He's he's from the netherlands he did his first year three years there Um in a true belgian mal. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he does he be borx a book He definitely speaks d. Oswald.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Blets. Oswald. Here. Come here. Show everybody your teeth. Come here, cracker. Paken! Paken! Yeah. Is that the attack word?
Starting point is 02:27:36 Paken. Paken. Paken. Paken. Paken. Interesting. Is it German, I guess? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:44 Yeah. So this is Oswald. Hey Oswald! Yeah, so we found him in Bernie and so he like is missing like 16 teeth. This dude was a little chupacabra. He was All right Can you get a metal teeth like Kanye Yeah Well, so he's missing. He's like I had to have 17 teeth extracted He was hit by a car. So his hip was out of socket And so it had calcified to the point where they couldn't put it back in socket So we had to FH over cut the top of his femur off
Starting point is 02:28:26 dual anal sectomy dual cataracts Like this dog was like they wanted to euthanize him None of the rescues would take him just because there was so much work that needed to be done My god, yeah, it's an anal sex me and we don't know It's taking the glands out of his butt oh because he they were oblong shaped and they wouldn't express right so like he was constantly like squirting that oh don't like that that's not yeah
Starting point is 02:29:07 People at work called him Chupacabra, but Her armadillo, but he like he was pretty pretty rough shape. Is he healthy now? Oh, yeah, he loves life, man You're it's a good thing. We had a dog with mange bad mange Like I know mange was could be about lethal and he was, super bad. And this is the day we got him, we didn't put him in that state. So, like it was expensive to help him get better. I wanna say $2,500 like repeated baths, trips to the vet, et cetera.
Starting point is 02:29:38 But then for the rest of his life, like special food storage requirements, everything would set this dog's mange off. And he ended up getting old and the mange came back and his immune system like couldn't deal with it. He was just kind of sick for his whole life. Is mange, is that a disease or is it like a bug? Some sort of dermatitis or something, right?
Starting point is 02:30:02 I don't know, is it a mite? Is it a bacteria? I wanna say it's a mite of some sort. Oh, dog parasite. It's a skin disease. Yeah. Does a mite mean it's not a skin disease? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:30:13 No, a mite is like a, I think a chigger is a mite, right? Something that looks like a berry is in your skin. It's a bug. It is a bug, which is not a crab. Mites that burrow into the skin that's their crabs their bugs Yeah, there's three kinds of mange and our dog had all three Dan oh wow like if you're around a mangy dog can mange get on you
Starting point is 02:30:34 I mean in theory humans are not immune to mange, but you're way too healthy to get it. We didn't know Okay, so we can only thrive on like a sick We didn't. Oh, OK. So we can only thrive on like a sick animal. Someone who's susceptible to it, like this dog may have had an autoimmune type thing. He was allergic to grass. What the fuck? Jesus. That sucks. A dog allergic to grass. Right. Now, I mean, he went in the grass.
Starting point is 02:30:58 He just sort of suffered from it now. It was really hard to keep him in good shape. Well, of course, he doesn't know he's allergic to grass. Right? He's a dog. Of course he doesn't know he is. Yeah. That dog was kind of a mistake.
Starting point is 02:31:13 The dog was kind of a mistake. Yeah. It was a free dog, most expensive dog I've ever had by far. And like now we have like this purebred who's just been so healthy and lovable and just in every way, like physically and emotionally the best dog I've ever had or seen. So it makes me think that's a good track. Sorry. I got a whole mess. I was all took on a cut. He took on a coyote yesterday.
Starting point is 02:31:44 Nice list one. Yeah. I'll take on a cut. He took on a coyote yesterday. Nice. This one. Yeah, like I don't think well So you can see you see see the deer? Yeah And So that's the coyote Uh-huh And I wait for it See the coyote and then there goes toothless it goes there goes Lee Harvey himself
Starting point is 02:32:20 So the coyote bitty no, no, so do you have to give him a shot? No it didn't break the skin, but he fucked around and found out. That's missing 17 teeth and then he thinks he's going to take on a coyote. But that's one of those things where I really have like I'm reluctant to kill animals on the property just because I don't know if you guys have read Coyote America or not. I can't recommend it enough. It's a fascinating book. But just talking about how the logic around coyote control and how it's exacerbated the
Starting point is 02:32:59 problem by trying to kill them. Really? Yeah, because they're different than wolves. It was really effective to use like strychnine baiting. Like you kill an animal and then poison the animal. The pack would come in and feed and they would die. Well, coyotes and their local groups will do a census and they'll do a roll call. And if the numbers are off,
Starting point is 02:33:25 the bitches go into heat and they're bred. And so if you kill like the dominant male in the local group, then all the other males vie for dominance and they become more aggressive towards domesticated animals and all these other different factors. And it's like, which has led them to be, well, in every single state in the US,
Starting point is 02:33:48 to include New York City and stuff on Los Angeles. I'd see them running around and everything. But we hunted them and I'm not exaggerating, we killed them all. There were no, like for miles in every direction of our house, we killed them all. You could drive around and turn that locator call on and not hear a peep Like they wouldn't there was nothing left to call back. I hear him at night all the time Yeah, I chittering I scream out there Typically, I don't I don't like kill things like you because even the snakes
Starting point is 02:34:21 I don't have a whole lot of venomous snakes, and with the exception of coral snakes, I let the rat snakes and the coachwhips and the king snakes take care of business and do their thing, eat the rats and whatnot. Which state are you in now? Texas. But I'm not a big fan of snakes by no stretch of the imagination, but this is ding-dong here, here challenged a coyote. So whenever the breeding pair, the dominant pair comes through,
Starting point is 02:34:50 am I going to run the risk of them trying to bait him into group attack him or something? So I'm probably going to kill that coyote. But whatever. Have you ever hunted them in your own pack? Yeah. Yeah. What you need is them? Make your own pack. What you need is a couple more Malamars with teeth. Malamars? They're delicious!
Starting point is 02:35:12 They're chocolate dogs. No, I... You need a nice marshmallow chocolate treat. I might be honest, but I don't think chocolate is good for coyotes. That's true. A couple Malamars. I don't think chocolate is good for coyotes. We've got a coyotes and crows. Those were the big ones.
Starting point is 02:35:32 Me too. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what we hunted coyotes. Belgian Malibu. We would. There's tons of pecan orchards down here, so we would hunt those for crows. But with coyotes, we would go out right as the sun's setting. We knew all the farmers within miles and miles, and they knew it was us if somebody's on their property.
Starting point is 02:35:51 So we had access to thousands of acres of soybean and corn and wheat or whatever the seasonal crop was, and we'd go out there and play that locator call. It's, for those that don't know, it's a howling coyote. We'd start with a locator one to find them. And it's a howling coyote. We'd start with a locator one to find him, you know, and it's a howling coyote. And turn it up loud, make it howl, turn it off and listen. And you're like, oh, okay, a couple miles that way.
Starting point is 02:36:12 And you'd get in the truck and drive a couple miles that way. And then like you said, that wounded rabbit, which sounds horrific if you've ever heard of it. It's like a baby. It's like a baby. Yeah, I often wonder like, what was Johnny Stewart doing to that rabbit
Starting point is 02:36:27 when he recorded that one? Like, I think that's the name of the calls, right? The Johnny Stewart, it's like the big one caller company and he has this big, I had the whole booklet of cassette tapes and it's all the crow tapes and all the coyote predator tapes and stuff. But anyway, you play that wounded rabbit call
Starting point is 02:36:45 and you're shining a small flashlight the whole time at the perimeter of the trees. And just, you could use a red light. I just used a weak flashlight, but as soon as we'd find them with that, I'd hit them with a million candle power. And then just the other guy would zap them, just shoot them right between their glowing eyes
Starting point is 02:37:02 and just take turns light and gun and all night, me and my dad would kill him like 20 a night stuff like that. Like wow, like we'd wipe them out. Yeah, a real Khmer Rouge. Because what they would do in our case is when a cow was birthing like during that brief window when the calf can't defend itself and there's after birth on the ground and the cows kind of fucked up too, they would sometimes disembowel a cowl a cowl They couldn't defend herself or they would kill the calf in one way or another they usually exhaust it to death and Seems like they always go for its butthole and it's and try to disembowel predators often start eating
Starting point is 02:37:43 Pretty awful was near the asshole because I guess it's a good inroad but before we get any further and try to disembowel it. That's how predators often start eating. It's pretty awful. That animal is near the asshole because I guess it's a good inroad. But before we get any further into eating animals through their assholes, we're gonna hear from a wonderful, wonderful sponsor and that's Bluechew. Oh, right.
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Starting point is 02:44:29 That reminds me of, it was the Wicked Witch in Wizard of Oz that got permanent skin, or maybe not permanent, but super long-term skin discoloration because they used like some weird oil-based dye. Maybe lead-based. Like, like. Or they used, they used a dye instead of a paint. And so they literally dyed her skin. Yeah, that Wicked Witch lady, she got all fucked up from all that green dye. Like it turned her green.
Starting point is 02:44:49 Yeah, you know, she was, I think this is true. It might be an urban legend. She did an episode of Sesame Street back in the day. And I think they might've taken it down because she was too scary for the kids. Maybe that's green. Maybe she was on there just to show that she wasn't scary or something like that,
Starting point is 02:45:02 but she wasn't still green by that time. Oh. The wizard, cause this is like color TV. This is the eighties. on there just to show that she wasn't scary or something like that, but she wasn't still green by that time. The Wizard, because this is like color TV, this is the 80s. But I remember the scene where they're in the poppy field and the snow starts falling. That's all asbestos. That's all asbestos. Seriously, it's all asbestos. They had Dorothy, the actress, on pep pills and I think they were wrapping her breasts and trying to make her skinnier and more girlish, and so they had her on amphetamines,
Starting point is 02:45:30 and she was addicted to those for life. So I looked it up. Her face stayed green for weeks because of copper-based ingredients, and it was toxic, so she had to survive on a liquid diet so that she didn't accidentally eat the dye on her face. Oh man, that's Hollywood's moral now. Yes, yes. Who was that? Didn't some, Kyle, you told me this or you showed me this. There's a clip of some movie from a few decades
Starting point is 02:46:03 ago where a helicopter falls out of the sky and like child its own movie. So Twilight Zone movie guy and some little kid up couple of kids got chopped up. Yeah, they were. Yeah, they're doing nighttime filming with a low hovering helicopter. And the shot is a man with two small children and they're sort of running. And I think they might be in like, shin deep water and the chopper goes down and it chops them all up. Yeah. Jesus brutal. And it probably wasn't even a good movie. That was a good movie. I like this. I love horror anthology. It's one of my favorite genres, even the bad ones. Anthology is a difficult horror thing because you have to know you're in it for the long haul.
Starting point is 02:46:43 Like you get a book and you get the opening act and the book end that tie everything together and you get three or four ghoulish tales In the beginning the middle, you know some guy wants to like be Extra muscular so he takes the fucking drugs But they also make him like I don't know like his bones dissolve or they make it gay or something It's always something like that like a devil's deal That is that's what burt did he made a devil's deal. Yeah, but like dinner. That is, that's what Bert did. He made a deal with the devil that made him
Starting point is 02:47:08 the most sexual gayest man to ever live. And now what's he doing? Building a fan base online. You're literally like, you can, if you have an account, you can endorse what can or what contestant you think is best. And most people watching aren't even like taking the time to go on the contestants page and do it because they have little bios and stuff. Bert is fucking pentupled up everyone. Is there a hot chick?
Starting point is 02:47:36 They're difficult to see. see. The way it yeah, yeah, like she looks pretty. And then none of them look ugly. But like, it's one of those things where you're watching from so far away. What happens every season for me, because they make a full series of it afterward, like cut into like normal episodes for people who'd rather watch it that way, like a traditional TV show. And so you'll like watch the video and be like, Oh, that looks like a pretty cute girl. Because you're seeing it from that, like, you know, voyeur angle where, like, you don't really see everything.
Starting point is 02:48:07 And then you see the first like HD video and you're like, oh, that person is not the construction I had built of what they are in my mind. You know who I do that with? YouTubers who play video games like I see them play games. They are the most athletic superhero you've ever seen. They could be medieval swordsmen or like first person shooters, whatever it is. I associate the person playing the game
Starting point is 02:48:33 with the character in the game. And then I finally get the reveal. And if they're not actively Navy SEALs at the time, they're like, I'm so disappointed. I'm like, what? You're fat and your hair's long? I'm like,. I'm like what you're fat your hair is long. What is going on? I've been fooled I can't take anything you said or ever Trump's got his new attorney general look to get the man's just working these these 20s 24 hour days
Starting point is 02:49:00 He never sleeps. I heard I hear he never sleeps. What are these? stories are these Bible stories? Are these Bible verses from Richard? Yeah, that's for you, Taylor. He picked another pretty blonde for something. I like when he does that. I really like when he picks pretty blonde women to do things for him. So she's a loyalist.
Starting point is 02:49:19 She was an attorney general in Florida. She's been chanting, lock her up, which is like a little scary if you're like a blue guy, but at least she's an actual attorney. Oh, Matt Gaetz with Rue. Oh, you didn't know that? Yeah, Gaetz is out. Yeah, he didn't.
Starting point is 02:49:36 Dude, his pedophile problems have just gotten so much attention that- Epiphyll! And that one is? Yes, he was a more successful version of Dr. Disrespect. Did you actually? Carefully, you're gonna have to give a, uh, the view style legal no, no, even have a file. It's too young. Is it Taylor's boy in the running for it and Drew Bailey? Or is it? Taylor, you have a boy? Who's my boy? Is that Missouri AG, right? Oh.
Starting point is 02:50:06 I think he's locked into this blonde. I didn't even know he was my boy. I didn't know who that was. Yeah, he's your boy. Like, he's from Missouri, I gotta support him. That's the chief law enforcement officer in your state. She was- He's the man. She also tried a bunch of cases.
Starting point is 02:50:21 I'm sure she lost them all about like the election being fixed in 2020. She was one of the attorneys in there. So she's a Trump team guy, I guess. Winner gets the team. So he needs a super loyal loyalist at attorney general if he wants to really make some moves, you know what I mean? Like he needs somebody who's going to make all his woes go away and add some woes to whoever he wants, whoever needs it for the next looks like where he's going. Yeah, get a little, a little, little at least come back for Trump's going to be quite old by the end of his term. I would imagine he'd want to ride off into the sunset and enjoy his retirement, you would think. So I think the idea that people think he's going to try
Starting point is 02:51:04 to stay longer than four years is absurd. I just think I've never been 82, but both Trump and Biden didn't seem to realize there at the end of their lives. So I wonder how he feels. You know what I mean? Like, I don't care about what a doctor says. Like, I wonder how he feels physically and like, like, help wise. Does he feel like energetic? Does he still have?
Starting point is 02:51:24 I wonder what his nap schedule is like too they make it seem like he legitimately works very long days continuously without end but I wonder is he's on the weight loss train now his least saving one guy from being ob or you know how Trump's one of those things I bet it's a zephyr it's wildly yeah it could be Ozempic, but he's also like- RFK's got him on the- He's noticeably thinner now,
Starting point is 02:51:49 like especially that walk on the UFC thing. He's, look at him from three and a half years ago, four years ago, especially when he was just leaving the presidency, significantly fatter than he is now. And so that's good news. Yeah, I would think the presidency could lend itself to fitness.
Starting point is 02:52:06 Like what doesn't in my opinion is the travel schedule of campaigning. I know whenever I'm on the road, my diet is at its worst. You know, I'm eating Wendy's and pounding monster energy drinks or something like that to stay awake during the drive. But when I'm at home, I can be the best version of me.
Starting point is 02:52:23 I'm just projecting that onto Trump. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Was at the White House. You mentioned you mentioned the food and it reminded me the Harris campaign spent twenty four thousand dollars on ice cream and food deliveries in October. It's to see the way they burned through that billion dollars is is fun now because now the Democrats themselves are like Republicans don't care how they spend their money the Democrats are like how did we spend that billion and they're going through it and they're seeing like oh Well, we were extravagant weren't we cuz Harry's assistant doesn't come cheap
Starting point is 02:53:02 No, that guy gets his money and then you need that special call her daddy set You know these things Use 700 thousand views for that 700,000 that's it. Yeah, man. How much was it? 100,000 just to build the set and then because they recreated that girls podcast girls Set and then did it and Kamala's home turf somewhere, I don't know where obviously, but instead of lying here and just doing it,
Starting point is 02:53:30 so they spent $100,000 to recreate a podcaster set, which it was just like two chairs that face each other and a wall. Like there's nothing extravagant about the set. You could have green screened the whole thing. You could have green screened it and it would have been perfect for hundreds of dollars and they smile and Woody says that the Beyonce getting paid 10 mil is BS
Starting point is 02:53:51 But Zach says the only evidence that it's BS is Beyonce's mom saying it's that she didn't get paid Which isn't a great source, so I'm wondering maybe there's more maybe there's more so my brother's cousin Yeah, it's like, tell me, I don't care what someone's wife or their lawyer has to say about them. You're probably not getting an accurate portrayal of of events. But I know Oprah, it turned out it was like two and a half million. And and that's nonsense because she's a billionaire with a B. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:23 The she's the Harris. The Harris campaign didn't deny paying. Beyonce money. Well, how much, though, because the 10 mil figures was like subsets. I'm Googling. I'm getting zero on my thing. She didn't pay her at all. And that was from a woman whose name I didn't know. Do you know who? Tina Knowles is? That's her mom, right?
Starting point is 02:54:49 Is it? Beyonce Knowles. Okay. Yeah, Beyonce's mother. So now we're back to her mom again. If I could get my grandma on this call, she'd tell you what a great guy I am, I promise you. You have no idea how attractive she thinks I am.
Starting point is 02:55:11 The proof that she was paid is just Candace Owens putting it on Instagram. There's no proof that she was paid. Oh, I stand with Candace. Of course. Oh, I mean, if she was paid Oprah. We all get to choose our own news nowadays. Candace is cute though.
Starting point is 02:55:23 I'm kind of into Candice I mean if you paid Oprah you're not getting fucking Beyonce for free Yeah, I really like I really like those conservative Talking head women who look like super uptight and mean. I'm so for some reason I'm attracted to that I'm also attracted to the left women who look super uptight and mean though, too Cuz I love AOC big fan of AOC. She's my number one girl. Tulsi's number two. And she is moving up in the world.
Starting point is 02:55:49 She's your number two in politics? You think that Tulsi is less, is more hot than who's the- Kayleigh? Oh. Who? We're talking about the elected one, Boebert, the one- Oh, Lauren Boebert?
Starting point is 02:56:03 I would definitely go AOC. Lauren Boebert, the one. Oh, Lauren Boebert. I would definitely go AOC. Lauren Boebert looks beautiful. Then Gabbard, then. I guess that's all the ones I can think of. Now, who's that mayor that they were gonna kidnap in Minnesota or something? I remember that, not mayor, governor. News center, what was her name?
Starting point is 02:56:22 Gretchen Whitmore, right? She's pretty attractive, right? No, I like Taylor's ranking. Okay, Kayleigh. I'm all about it. I'm all about it. She's the best White House press secretary of all time. Very cute girl.
Starting point is 02:56:38 Okay, well, she's prettier. She was a boss. She's a politician. We're here self-selecting for only the election. I want someone who's governors, congresspeople, win elections. Don't just get appointed by Trump because you're smoke show. Absolutely. Tippity. Nothing. There has never been a press secretary that held a count candle to her. She, she came bringing the heat every single day. She was the best.
Starting point is 02:57:05 Kaylee McEnany, is that right? Yeah. Okay. I remember, I don't remember which one it was. Have you listened to any of her briefings, Taylor? Of course. I'm sure. No, I don't really listen to those. I believe you. I'm just saying, you't win an election. And for that reason, and that reason alone, I have to disqualify your choice. I'm not happy about it. I'm not happy about it with these rules I'm making up as we go. Yeah. No, I mean, I think that Gabbard is getting carried a lot by the fact that she's like really fit. Like she's clearly like if she's not someone in Congress that would be embarrassed to put a swimsuit on
Starting point is 02:57:47 because she clearly works out all the time. There's a surfing video of her from like two years ago. Yeah. And so like maybe three. OK. In my head, I had it is over 10, but I'm not sure. She serves all the time, I guess. She's just out there. She's one of those people who pronounce Hawaii correctly because she's from there.
Starting point is 02:58:03 And she's 40. Yeah, she's 43 But I mean You're kind of glossing over some like really fucking awesome things about tulsi though. Like one she absolutely ended kamala's like uh Any shot that she had as yeah in what 2020 she didn't make it to iowa? And and then on top of that she also roasted the shit out of hillary clinton like about her record and everything else like like she like
Starting point is 02:58:34 say what you want about her outside of it like politics and everything i mean at least she's like she's well informed when she brings herself to a debate. I don't know a ton about her. I just know that she consistently is more anti-interventionist than the people who would be the alternative. And so I like that. Like I don't, I don't really, I don't care about Russia at all. And I don't care about Ukraine.
Starting point is 02:59:00 I don't. I know you don't. I don't want us there. And if she's in favor of that, boom. Those brave Ukrainians would be over here fighting tooth and nail. If the Canadians were trying to take Missouri from you, I promise you there'd be Canadian men, women, dogs. They'd be lined up lined up in southern Missouri down around the Ozarks. They'd become they'd be in they'd be down there. All right. They'd be forming a mass of you to get a field of men for you to help you to help you. The Koreans
Starting point is 02:59:26 would be there to get your back. We don't need help against Canada. Oh, you don't know. They send their special forces. They're going to be a special forces. Wow. White dawn, white dawn. They parachute in. They infiltrate. They take out communication towers. Next thing you know, we're conquered by Canada. They just moved the border down down south. communication towers. Next thing you know, we're conquered by Canada. They just moved the border down down south. I don't even know what state is above you. What's what's what's that's above you? Is it? I mean, we got a mix. We got Illinois, we got Iowa, we got a touch over there. We got like, what's between you and Canada? I can't visualize it. Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois. We touch all the states. Missouri borders like seven states.
Starting point is 03:00:05 That's like most of the states according to my math. It is. It's pretty ridiculous. It's a wonderful world. I could be in Kansas in four hours. Dare to dream. Wow. Have you guys driven,
Starting point is 03:00:20 Kyle's probably driven through Kansas. It's the same as Oklahoma and it's long. There is like, Kansas has like a beauty to it that's understated for the first part of Kansas where you're like, these fields are so like, cause people think the whole Midwest is flat, like Missouri is actually very hilly, Illinois is very hilly. It's really Kansas that gets wildly flat. And it's really Oklahoma as well. Like it's really pretty Oklahoma as well.
Starting point is 03:00:45 Like it's really pretty the first while you look at it, but then it's just the same thing. Utah's not flat. Yeah, Utah's the least flat. I guess it's not in this region. But yeah, Taylor, I couldn't agree more. Like I see Kansas, Oklahoma, and I'm like, wow, this is a beauty, right?
Starting point is 03:01:02 And I've said it so many times, it's old by now, but to stand and look in every direction and the tallest thing in sight is me, I've never experienced that before. That's crazy. But then that just keeps going for hundreds of miles and you're like, yeah, you're pretty, but there's only one thing here.
Starting point is 03:01:21 It's all the same. It gets to the point where you're like, wow, a tree. When you do see a tree, it's like one tree in the middle of a field. That's so pretty. Maybe in another 200 miles, I'll see another. I never minded that. Idaho can be like that in places too, where it's just so desolate. It's one of those places where the gas stations warn you, like, hey, 180 miles to the next gasoline. Wyoming's what you're thinking of, yeah, yeah. Idaho, I was driving from Oregon through to Idaho, to Boise to get to the airport, and it was just desolate.
Starting point is 03:01:57 It was farmland, but there were no houses. There was no like people there. There was one or two radio stations. There was this road that was so long and flat you could see for so far that I got on the hood of the truck And like let them drive with me out there and in Idaho. Yeah, just so long and flat Yeah, yeah, the United States is gigantic. I've never been to a lot I was in Idaho in like July and the Sun went down at at 10 p.m. I was like, what the fuck? That happens in the lower 48?
Starting point is 03:02:29 Okay. Like Kyle said, it goes on forever and forever, but I know it was not my jam. We had a hard time getting a place to stay. I couldn't believe that there was farmland and bad traffic. I'm like, you're not supposed to have both. What is that all about? I was happy to get out and get into, that there was farmland and bad traffic. I'm like, you're not supposed to have both. What is that all about? I just, I was happy to get out and get into, I think I went to Montana next. Is that Port of Idaho? Yep. Yeah. Montana. I don't know. I was tired of driving. So I flew
Starting point is 03:02:55 fucking home. I know it was a beautiful state. I really like, Taylor likes it more than me. Yeah. I lived there for a couple of years and it was very, very nice. You're right. Boise, the thing with Boise is it is way too small of a town to have traffic. It's like when they were planning it, they're like, all right, two lanes everywhere. It's like, okay, well, what if it grows and they're like two lanes everywhere? It's like, fuck. You can be in Boise and you're not,
Starting point is 03:03:25 maybe not the very peak of Boise cause that has like real hotels and stuff, but like, you know, Boise, Boise, I'm not talking about some suburbs and be like, do any of these buildings crack two stories? Like any of them? There's two stories everywhere. I can't believe this city is like nationally known.
Starting point is 03:03:40 It, Camden or like Vineland, New Jersey is a more notable city than Boise and no one knows Vineland, New Jersey is a more notable city than Boise and no one knows Vineland, New Jersey. Oh yeah. It's just cause they're the biggest city in Idaho. And I feel like maybe this is using my own memory and misattributing it, but do you remember when Boise state had that crazy like football season in like 2007 or 2008
Starting point is 03:04:01 where they way overperformed and won some big bowl game? Like I think a lot of people learned what Boise was from the, the orange turf Boise state Broncos, like going on a tear. Cause I certainly had no, I don't think I'd ever considered Idaho as a place to be outside of it being the place where Napoleon dynamite was set. That was the only thing I knew about Idaho was Napoleon. And when I lived there, it turns out like that's their cultural thing where you'll be like, like, what are you guys doing?
Starting point is 03:04:31 I don't know. Like, you know, like tons of outdoor stuff like fishing hunting. Have you seen Napoleon Dynamite? Yeah, like that's here. Yeah, not a lot of movies. I hated Boise so much. I started to dislike all the people of Boise. I'm like, look at you walking around like you're my equal.
Starting point is 03:04:49 Look at you walking around in your beautiful, clean, no crime city with an affordable cost of living. You morons. Don't you know crimes happening all over the country? And they're like, not here, champ. I'm I'm I'm going through like news articles and stuff, seeing what's going on in the world currently. No crimes happening all over the country and they're like not here champ I'm going through like news articles and stuff seeing what's going on in the world currently Biden's hosting the celtics. I don't know why um, but they won the championship last year. It's probably oh
Starting point is 03:05:16 Oh that that makes a lot of sense It says biden appears to forget name of celtics and reveals secret service code name during team's white house visit What's the secret service code name? Do they tell it? Oh, actually I should read further. That's interesting. Um, I'll try to get back to you in a minute. Yeah, it is Celtic. Oh my God. His, his code name is Celtic. Hmm. I didn't expect that. I can't really be like one or something like that. I think Trump's might be Eagle or something like that. Like, like, I think, I think once you I think maybe like he's got he's got it.
Starting point is 03:05:50 And now Biden can't have it back. Like, I think he's the Eagle. I can't remember what I remember. They're saying his code name during the whole shooting. Like it came up, like maybe you heard someone say it like, like, Eagle is safe or something like that or something like that. Man, it seems like that was forever ago when he got shot. That's so wild.
Starting point is 03:06:09 Yeah. And I still don't know if he really got shot by the bullet. I'm not one of those people who, uh, who, who wants it to be one way or the other. Uh, but there's just reality, like whatever reality is. But, um, the whole thing is that one shot when you can see the bullet in hair though, is the, is the money shot to when you can see the bullet in the air though is Is the money shot to me? That's the golden shot He shot but that bullet didn't look lined up to hit his ear Like I always thought that was maybe a not the one that hit him or or something. Yeah, it was what it was a different bullet
Starting point is 03:06:37 Yeah, it wasn't the one that hit him in the ear or or even when his head was turned It was one of the secondary or thirdary, one of the later shots. Yeah, but him catching that thing in midair is wild. Yeah, I'm not calling it a Photoshop, but the first time I saw it, it was like an hour after the shooting, and I was like, ah, trust but verify. But it turned out to be true.
Starting point is 03:07:06 Yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing like the whole inauguration process, the certification of the election when that happens on what I presume will be January 6th again. Maybe that's the day we do it every time. And it's a little awkward, you know, that Kamala has to be the one to do it, right?
Starting point is 03:07:21 She's the vice president. Isn't that the person who certifies the election? So far the Biden administration has handled this transition and loss really professionally. I expect more of the same. Well, of course it didn't happen four years ago. Well, of course the Biden administration has handled it. So I bet it's a non-event.
Starting point is 03:07:42 Yeah, yeah, I don't think she's gonna do anything. I don't think she's gonna be like, this is bullshit, but I'll do it, I guess. She's not going to do that. She's going to be professional as fuck. What was going to happen if she won, though? Who was going to take her? Was she going to certify herself? Yes, that is I think that's my guess.
Starting point is 03:07:58 In that case, she would have made a little cutesy remark. She's like, you know what? I think I'll certify myself. Sure. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. She might have. I don't know. Wait, ultimate chamomile on twist. I'm really not qualified for this, folks. Shuts it down. I saw that some polling like who Democrats want in the 2028. You want to take some guesses about who's number one? I have a guess. Number one is way ahead. I'll say that. Is there a it's number one Harris at the top because it's recency bias. But can you imagine a more useless poll?
Starting point is 03:08:37 I'm okay. The answer to that? No, not very. But to Kyle's thing, I bet the Democrats won John Stewart. Hold on, can I actually, can I give a list of what I think? Yeah. Harris at the top by a huge margin, there's no way it's not. And then Gavin Newsom. And then Bernie Sanders. And then, or no, it depends who's voting in this poll.
Starting point is 03:09:02 No, but this is what people want. It's like what they're- Old now. Top two, if it's not Harris Newsome, I will be bamboozled. I'll be shocked. Maybe number like three would be Gretchen Whitmer. Number four would be- Shapiro is high.
Starting point is 03:09:19 Buddha judge. Shapiro, number five would be Buddha judge. Tell me how close I got. You're pretty close Harris is way ahead of everybody Everybody else everybody else is down in the sixes and the four percentile and then down from there Buddha judge was like fifth or fourth. He had like 5% 4% 6% chance like what can you read them? I don't have it like offhand and I can't find the graph that, but the whole point is like Harris is like 45%
Starting point is 03:09:48 and everybody else is five or 6%. That's surprising to me. I mean, I'm not denying it. I'm just saying, usually when someone loses an election, they get dogged on. They act like they're the biggest loser ever. Al Gore, Dukakis, Mondale, I don't know, John Kerry. Like the people that come in second place
Starting point is 03:10:11 in the presidential election, they act like they're total losers. Even Trump was very unpopular at first, like shortly after his loss. And it seemed like the party wanted to move on and help me lose some money on that bet. So yeah, but I guess with Kamala, they're not holding a grudge.
Starting point is 03:10:32 I don't know. Okay, it was- No consequences for her. Harris, Newsome, Shapiro, Walls, Bezhez. Bezhez. Bezhez. Yeah, that's what I remember. I remember Buttigieg being behind walls and beingzhez. Bezhez.
Starting point is 03:10:46 Yeah, that's what I remember. I remember Buttigieg being behind walls and being like, damn. Poor Buttigieg. I'm the only one who sees the magic in him, it seems. They don't want walls. They don't want Buttigieg. You know why they don't want Buttigieg.
Starting point is 03:11:02 They can tell he's the bottom. They can tell he's the bottom. I don't want to do it. Shapiro is how he's the bottom. They can tell he's the bottom. I don't think that's true. If I'm going to vote for a guy, he's going to be a top. Would you vote for a bottom? Disgusting. I saw I did come in and vote for a gay man. He's going to be a proud dominant top.
Starting point is 03:11:20 I saw a picture and it said this is what Republicans call a mandate. And it was the picture of you know the the electoral college map and it was like this is what the Democrats call a mandate and it was Buttigieg and his husband in a rope swing. Oh yeah just having a mandate I like that. A little homophobia. Yeah just a little silliness just having a little fun online. That's all that's all yeah having fun. Dude if they're smart, they're going to run Shapiro. I don't know who they should run. I've changed my mind on Newsome. I just don't think that, I think it would be such a layup because so much of the country hates California and their regulations and rules and nonsense that it might be alienating to pull someone directly from there.
Starting point is 03:11:58 But a Pennsylvania guy who seems to be largely, I saw his popularity ratings. He's not like really popular in Pennsylvania, but he's not unpopular and there's four years to change it. And so like Shapiro seems like if they're trying to win, like a basic bitch, neoliberal who can pay his like lip service to all the progressive nonsense, like Shapiro seems like the guy. I think he's a good pick. It's going to be hard to be super popular in such a purple state like Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 03:12:27 Who's pulling 70, 80 percent popularity in a purple state? True. Yeah, nobody. Nobody's going to. I saw someone floating like Fetterman. I hope they get that guy up there. And then he's like eyeding his way through a debate. That would be horrible. Trump would unplug him. Trump would unplug him.
Starting point is 03:12:51 He'd like to rest up on his screen. Maybe this is like overly simplistic, but I feel often like almost a good way to suss this out is to see what your opposition would fear most being put forward. And so like, if you were a Democrat this electoral season, you wanted anybody but Donald Trump on that ticket because none of the other Republicans inspire that sort of turnout. Nobody. What, fucking DeSantis? None of these people. In the same way, I would infinitely rather have, you know, Vance or whoever it is, go up against I would infinitely rather have Vance or whoever it is go up against walls or Buttigieg.
Starting point is 03:13:28 If it's walls or Buttigieg, I'm like, oh, thank goodness. If it's Shapiro, I'm nervous, I'm worried. That guy's no idiot. Have you seen Buttigieg much? Like on Fox News or anything? I've watched enough of them, but the end all be all of it is in order for Democrats to win,
Starting point is 03:13:44 they have to court an enormous percentage of the black vote, which, you know, blacks always end up going Democrat, but they need a big percentage of it. And they also need a lot of Hispanics and gay, like a gay man that alienates a huge swath of very religious black people and very religious Catholic Hispanics. You might be right.
Starting point is 03:14:03 And I also think about like white men, blue collar, manufacturer environments, auto workers and such, they might also not be so down with a gay guy. So it's an issue. And I've said so many times repeating or quoting Destiny, like we can win without you, but we can't win with you. Can we just take this like trans person off the cover of the book?
Starting point is 03:14:24 Right, I'm not saying we need to be bad on trans issues, just stop making them the cover of the book. Right, I'm not saying we need to be bad on trans issues, just stop making them the cover of the book. And with Buddha Judge, maybe I'm being like, I'm doing what I said not to. Yeah, playing into it again. Right. I think it's a difficult thing. I just like him because I see him
Starting point is 03:14:38 as the Fox News whisperer, right? He can go into the lion's den and get Fox people to applaud him. I'm like, if you could do that, then you could actually win over people from the other side. You could actually possibly unite the country. This guy can sell his accomplishments if he were to win and actually have some. We haven't had a communicator from the democratic side in a long time. I liked I one thing I definitely saw this election cycle was nobody cares about Barack
Starting point is 03:15:14 Obama anymore. Like he looks so weak at those speaking engagements like he couldn't control his own crowds like they do. Come on now. Calm down now. Come on. Quiet down. Please, please quiet.
Starting point is 03:15:27 It was, he lost control. And then I saw another one. I am speaking. I saw another one where he was, That was pretty good. He was just talking down to the black guys in the room. It was like, so if it's not this, it's not that. Why is it you don't want to vote for it?
Starting point is 03:15:41 Let's talk about why you don't want to vote for a woman. So I came to your barber shop today, talked to you about the election, and it's about time you guys put your full force behind Kamala Harris. By the way, don't touch me, you're filthy. I like it when Obama talks down to people. maybe it loses elections, but I see him being like, hey, I see you shouting at the other side, yelling at them in restaurants and such. I was like, that's not the way to go. You gotta listen and then make up your mind.
Starting point is 03:16:15 You can't just yell all the time and be so close-minded. And I'm like, yeah, Barack, set him straight. You know, like, I often like what he has to say, but you can't argue with him. Yeah, but he's lost touch. Like what he says may or may not be right, but he's lost touch with like the electorate He's lost touch with those rallies the people that were showing up like those weren't his people anymore It was clear like they didn't see him with the same reverence that even I guess I want to yes Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 03:16:42 When he got he got traction was 20 years ago So those people are no longer 20 years old anymore They're 40 years old and so like a lot happens when you go from 20 to 40 like economically and life and things happen and sometimes it you lose the luster of voting for somebody just because they have a certain characteristic like being a woman or whatever maybe sometimes it's the substance of what it is that they're saying and their policy that you're like well you know what fuck this guy like
Starting point is 03:17:19 mama like that he lost that panache that je ne sais quoi they used to talk about with him. And do you remember when Bilbo had the ring when he was eleventy one years old? Yeah. And then and then he lost the ring. And the next time Frodo sees him, he's like, this guy's like a hundred years older now. Yep. That happened with Barack Obama. I remembered him being like a really young looking guy like when he finished the presidency. I specifically remember thinking like
Starting point is 03:17:52 damn like obviously this guy's way younger than a lot of other presidents still at the end but like It really he and he looks more than eight years older to be fair But like he didn't take that like presidential destruction route that a lot of them take like he didn't take that like presidential destruction route that a lot of them take. But now it looks like all of that caught up. Like he went from looking virile and like lively to when I saw him talking in this election. He looks fucking old, dude. You know what he looks old and he needs that. He needs that guy on TikTok. Mid 60s, late 60s. Black people. Have you seen this guy on TikTokick tock that does old homeless black people hair?
Starting point is 03:18:26 I'm wondering if he's taking a long load. Oh, he's early 60s. 63. Yeah. OK. But yeah, he really aged a ton. Maybe out of stress. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:18:39 What would he have to be stressed about? I guess he wants his party to keep winning in the future. But like, he should he's just if I was a president, you know, I was done, I would just, yeah, I would W. I think he genuinely hates out. I think he genuinely hates Donald Trump though. And who knows like what? Well, he knows that part of this entire, the impetus of this entire political arc
Starting point is 03:19:00 that's largely undoing his, all of his political machinations when he was in office is a joke he told with Trump there. And if you don't think that he thinks about that, you're crazy. Like he instigated so much of it. Trump ran for president before that event. Not in a serious way, in like a fiddle around. Ran so much harder that time though. Well he actually won.
Starting point is 03:19:24 There's the clip now even then of even now you can look at the clip where Obama's making fun of him and Trump's doing this smirk like at least I will go down as a president. Look, pulling that kind of shit. Get on. Just imagine what a badass Trump thinks that he himself is. You know what I mean? Because he did he did do all that stuff. And to us, we're probably most to some people. You're like, yeah, but he like lucked into this and fell into that back into that other thing. But to him, he saw the path from the beginning to him.
Starting point is 03:19:57 The fucking oceans, the part before his feet. You know what I mean? Like whatever the last fucking how long has it been? Twelve years, 13 years has just been. You can't deny the resistance that dude's gone against in so many different levels. I can. That's true. I can. Absolutely.
Starting point is 03:20:16 He's taken remedial tests. You know, this like you were like, Hey, what's the, no, what is the details? And Kamala's plan has been asked again and again and again. Meanwhile, Trump goes up there and I've got a big, bold, beautiful plan. You're just going to love it. Trust me. I have concepts of a plan, right? They do not drill. Trump can say any fucking weird shit and it just gets listened. You really do like this. Hold on. Hold on. I really do. Like I, no, no, no, I'm serious. Like you two weeks ago,
Starting point is 03:20:44 you were talking about how you live totally inculcated in a left-wing kind of biosphere media. I didn't say that. You said that you thought your media ecosystem was balanced and it turned out you were woefully misinformed. Would you have rephrased as you live in a totally inculcated left-wing bubble?
Starting point is 03:21:00 That's not what I said. That's what it ended up being though, because you were espousing all these things from the mainstream media. Fox News is a left-wing the mainstream media and Reddit and you were going to these places and you were so sure that these things were going to happen and they didn't. And you said, I want to kind of expand my media horizons, which is true. And that's fair. And I feel the same way in that regard.
Starting point is 03:21:20 But this idea that you can look at what Trump's gone through just from a media perspective and that he hasn't been grilled and had Ridiculous things thrown against him all the time by every major network for a decade is insane That's just looking at reality and denying it brings it on himself when he says these people have bad genes They are vermin poisoning the blood of our country. And then you're like, can you believe they're giving Trump a hard time? I Mean there's so many other examples. So Obama, Obama three weeks ago, or I'm sorry, a month ago, brought up the, I'm actually, I'm actually still going right here.
Starting point is 03:21:59 The dogs and cats, they're eating your pets, right? That's what he goes up there and says in the one debate he participated in and they're like, I can't believe they give Trump a hard time. Yeah, he brings it on himself. If Kamala said that people were eating cats and dogs in the debate, that's all they would talk about. Kamala said she wanted to give trans surgeries to illegal prisoners and that wasn't held against her feet, was it? And the fact that you don't know that is a symptom of the media not really giving her a fair shake, right? That is not her position anymore. You think the media...
Starting point is 03:22:30 Dude, the entire reason that that Harris went from being the least popular, hidden in a basement, vice president of all time to being foisted upon us as though she's brat and a hero with all these ham handed memes from the media is solely because the media was driving her to popularity. She had no organic popularity. She was a total empty suit that people got to, you know, impose whatever view they wanted on top of her. This is your bubble because I saw the organic popularity. I saw the streams with the freaking coconut-pilled and how everyone was so excited. That's not organic. If you fell for that, that's on you. I think these people were excited about her because she wasn't Trump and not because she was so excited. That's not organic. If you fell for that, that's on you. I think these people were excited about her
Starting point is 03:23:05 because she wasn't Trump and not because she was Kamala. Sir. I'll grant you that. Sir. But the idea that there's some media ecosystem propping her up is not true. There was so much art on her that they were on him. So I completely disagree.
Starting point is 03:23:18 Dude, it's, they were propping her up. I'm sorry, Richard, go ahead. Let me just say this. Kamala Harris factually did not do an interview for months after she was given the nod. Every single one of her interviews is heavily, heavily fucking scripted where she gets three, at least three days to prepare. And I know a lot of these things because I was invited on the fireside chat with Joe Biden fucking what?
Starting point is 03:23:44 12 years ago and they vetted every single question going into it and Trump like love him or hate him regardless the man has done interview after interview after I went personally went to fucking Mar-a-Lago for the crypto bro summit down there and for four hours with people on their phones recording him, what questions you got? I asked him about CBDCs and shit like that. There was no screening of questions.
Starting point is 03:24:15 The dude was just talking off the cuff. He did podcast after podcast after podcast. He did so many unscripted conversations with people, you couldn't get one sentence in with Kamala Harris without it being heavily scrutinized beforehand, and that's the problem that I had with it. I think she went six weeks before she did her first interview. Six weeks.
Starting point is 03:24:39 Well, he said it was months, that's a long time. Almost two months. The whole campaign was months. And yeah, Trump did take interviews, especially in his first term. I would argue less so in the second one. He did fewer rallies and fewer interviews and the interviews he did were often super friendly.
Starting point is 03:24:55 He didn't go on 60 minutes like she did where her feet were held to the fire. He would go on Fox News. He would go on Hannity's show. Can we pause there for a second? No, he went on CNN and did a town hall, but they mandated that everybody who went to that town hall was a Trump supporter. That was the kind of stack the deck. Let's stop it for a second. You just implied that 60 Minutes held Harris's feet to the fire,
Starting point is 03:25:20 right? Okay. Yeah, I did. Okay. Do you know that they selectively edited out questions? I've heard that, what did they edit out? They edited out insane, ridiculous, retarded ramblings from a moron in order to put a different answer from a different question into the edit. Really? Yes, they added up. I need to look into this.
Starting point is 03:25:40 I heard about it. And this is a good example of the media ecosystem. You're gonna say that I didn't hear it and I did. I did hear about this. I wanna- And you maintain that the media did not prop her up when they're actively editing things in order. The media edited the-
Starting point is 03:25:54 Fox News did that for Trump. Did you know that? Hold on, hold on. The media edited- Did you know that? I asked the question. It's Fox versus, there's Fox on one side, which is I will admit, right wing propaganda.
Starting point is 03:26:03 The largest, Fox, JRE. Like the big things are the right. Actually, it's not the largest. ABC, NBC, and CBS are far and away the largest. You know this. Fox is the most right wing and it's right wing propaganda. I know that. The other ones are largely left wing propaganda. And so when you say, oh, 60 minutes held her feet to the fire. No, they didn't. They edited a video to make it appear that she answered differently because they knew that releasing it would make her appear foolish. Meanwhile, that same exact program edited Trump to make him seem like he was saying Nazis were good people. Obama brought up three weeks ago
Starting point is 03:26:37 the good people on both sides farce lie and there was no fact checking. There was no... No, it's just you not watching the original video I what dude he says that again he said didn't watch the original video again because he says he decries white nationalists and Nazis in that video confidence but not facts you my god dude he in the video then were you not listening I've seen it and I've read the just said I've never seen the video. Then were you not listening? I've seen it and I've read the transcript and I've looked into this again and again and again. He overtly says he's not talking about white nationalists and Nazis,
Starting point is 03:27:14 but there were good people on both sides. And I've like laid the truth. This is your own little nonsense. So many times where nationalizing everything he says into something you disagree with. The Trump two step is like widely recognized as a natural speech pattern that he does. He will say like, Oh, there are good people on both sides, but I don't like some of the people are the media biases I just laid out untrue or are they true? I was still talking. You've
Starting point is 03:27:40 interrupted me 50 times. You call me out for it. And you continue to talk. So I called you out for it. Am I right in that the media overwhelmingly was bolstering Harris through selectively editing interviews, giving her okay well then there's no inroad to this conversation because we're just living in a different panel.
Starting point is 03:27:58 The media is holding her to a standard that they didn't hold him to. And he saw it again and again. It seemed like Trump could say ridiculous insane things. And the media this time was trying to not take the bait by not calling him out on every little thing he said. You're, you're so disconnected, man. If Kamala had said that immigrants were eating our cats and dogs, if Kamala
Starting point is 03:28:20 had said that vermin were invading or poisoning the blood of our country, this stuff would get so much more attention, but with Trump calling their political opponents Nazis for a decade. Kamala didn't call him a Nazi. But Trump did call her a Marxist, communist, socialist, the whole thing, a fascist. Kamala didn't call him a fascist. That was a huge part of their campaign is that he was everybody called him a fascist. Everybody called him a fascist. The people that knew Trump called him a fascist that was a huge part of their campaign is that he was everybody called him a fascist everybody called him a fascist the people that knew trump called him a fascist the people that
Starting point is 03:28:49 worked because an email was sent out that fascist is the vocabulary word this week like if you can you like admit the mainstream media does have a lot of vocabulary words if you don't see that that's on you like do you really think that these organizations which are staffed almost entirely by Democrats, their staff donates to Democrats, they vote Democrat, like you don't think they have a bias in how they're covering these things? Why are you saying what I think? No, I'm asking you. I'm saying you don't think they do you think they have a bias? Let me phrase it that way. Do you think the mainstream ABC NBC every mainstream depends which ones you pick.
Starting point is 03:29:29 I think CNN probably has a left bias. That's true. But they were tougher on Kamala than they were on Trump this news cycle. MSNBC clearly they're biased. They're not going to defend them. ABC and NBC from what I've seen of them. They try to get it right. Fox News doesn't try to get it right. Jerry doesn't try to get it right. Fox News doesn't try to get it right. JRE doesn't try to get it right. They just made their favorite stuff. Yeah, dude, that's hugely influential.
Starting point is 03:29:50 Yeah, it is. And JRE like lets people on and then they chat for three hours. Like Joe Rogan is a- JRE will have like non-political comedians in there and he'll turn it into politics. Joe Rogan is a liberal who got fumbled by the- But you don't think John Stewart did that?
Starting point is 03:30:07 Of course he did. You're telling me what I think? What is it I think? Yeah, but I'm saying, like, if you think that, like, Joe Rogan, if Joe Rogan has people on, like, comedians and they have, you know, political conversations, but, and that has a perspective on it, isn't that what John Stewart John Stewart called out Kamala far more than Jerry oh no no I
Starting point is 03:30:33 was talking about like yeah 15 years ago not oh yeah yeah yeah John Stewart's obviously for the left I'm not trying to pretend that he's like calling it down the middle balls and strikes he's not right John Stewart is a an agent of the left, I would say. So there. Yeah, I like John Stewart. He's one of my favorite liberals. So is and I like Bill Maher. I think they've got what when I listen to them speak, I don't think of them as agents for the left.
Starting point is 03:30:57 I think of them as expressing their true perspective and like their truth. Uh, to put it that way, I think there's being honest. And I think they're especially with John Stewart, true perspective and like their truth. To put it that way, I think there's being honest and I think there, especially with John Stewart, the way he went and got that money for those nine 11 workers and all those people that were affected by that poison. I appreciated that a ton because it's true. Like look, we sent soldiers into, into gunfire, but all those guys didn't even know what they were signing
Starting point is 03:31:25 up for. They didn't know the poisons that they were going to be exposed to and the diseases and the problems they were going to face the rest of their lives. So why can't we handle their medical bills in this country? That was crazy to me. Yeah. I think John Stewart is a good man. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:31:40 So I like him. And Bill Maher is fucking funny. I saw John Stewart defending Tony Tony Hinchcliffe, you know Tony Hinchcliffe had the whole they turned into a campaign ad You know, there's a there's a Kamala ad with him and black and white telling the joke and and they ran with that like that was gonna do something and John Stewart was like To be fair, that's what he does though And they played him roasting at the Tom Brady roast.
Starting point is 03:32:06 And that was influential for me. Like I, John Stewart said he was funny and he's like, he's a roast comedian. And when I looked at it through that lens, I was like, yeah, it was probably not probably. It was definitely a mistake to put him on the stage. Like they shouldn't have hired a roast comedian because he's going to roast. That's what's up. But then that's probably not a good way to win votes. Have you heard Tony
Starting point is 03:32:28 James Cliffs take on the whole thing post-election? No. He's probably stoked Trump won. He's incredibly stoked. He was death-threatened. Relieved. Yeah, I'm sure he was getting death threats and stuff. He was going to fuck up his career if Trump
Starting point is 03:32:44 lost. And they attributed any small part of that to him You know if it's like the Puerto Rican vote had been 95% common right? In particular and yeah, yeah, you're like like those 30,000 votes would have changed the world, dude You killed it. You killed us all Tony, but he's like I was I was trying I had been watching the lot about Puerto Rico and how many of you may not know this, but they have an issue with their landfills. They're overfilling. And it's a real problem that I was trying to bring a little light to.
Starting point is 03:33:14 Is that? Oh my gosh. I didn't know the Genesys. So I know Joe Rogan said that he told Tony not to tell the joke, which was probably good advice he should have followed. He should have. But he went edgy with it and I'm never gonna. It worked out. I don't hold it against him.
Starting point is 03:33:33 I'm gonna edgy with it. It's a funny joke. I have four comedians telling jokes. I know. Yeah, you should be able to say, yeah. That's literally why I don't watch Bill Maher at all. Okay. And so I'm not, this is from no perspective
Starting point is 03:33:45 on his political takes. I hate his joke delivery. I've watched one special of his ever, many, many years ago. That dude does not have it. There's a reason he's a talk show host and not a primarily standup comedian. That dude does not have it. I actually agree.
Starting point is 03:34:01 I think his delivery is terrible. I think his jokes are sometimes good, but I don't know that he's writing his own jokes. I suspect he has a staff that comes up with a lot of the stuff that I liked. I do appreciate his stances because he pushes back on the left a lot when they do the stuff that I also think is stupid.
Starting point is 03:34:17 Like I'm closer to Bill Maher's views. If you don't know him that well, for example, the left would apologize for like abuse of women so long as they're Muslim. And he's like, what is that all about? Like there's no way that you would be okay with this in America, but you're like, hey, burqas are cultures too in some other countries.
Starting point is 03:34:37 And I'm like, yeah, Bill's right. So. Yeah, stuff like that, you're right. But he's gonna have to do some real heavy lifting to convince me he's actually funny because it's. is funny. Like, it's like, no, no, he's like, like, when I do see clips, he's like doing that red meat style comedy, where it's like, what's the name of that Fox News late night, quote unquote, comedy show they used to have Greg Gutfield, the five, the biggest late night show
Starting point is 03:35:05 on television. Yeah, and it's like that guy's not actually being funny. Maybe he and Bill Maher, maybe they're funny guys. I bet if you hung out with them and you were just riffing, they're both very funny guys. But the jokes they're telling are just like, oh, did you guys hear the liberals are up to this today? What a bunch of retards. Like that's basically what it is. And then you wait four seconds, you let people laugh, and then you make another smarmy comment that insinuates how much better you are. And it's like, these aren't like funny jokes though.
Starting point is 03:35:36 Well, that's what late night monologues are like, right? Like you remember Leno and Letterman and- I do not, I've never watched a second of Leno. Oh, well, I've watched hundreds of hours I've watched Leno almost every night we were a Leno household not a Letterman household he was he was he was too mean were they on at the same time yeah yeah they always let Letterman or Letterman to me was the more adult and mean spirited of the two. And Lenna was the more goofy, have a good time kind of guy. That was the feel I always had for it.
Starting point is 03:36:14 And then I was like Conan, though, because I like the really zany thing that he did. And Lenna was never political, but I can recall. Like, I don't even a political. Yeah, you know, I'm sure he picked on. I'm sure would not end the 90s when Clinton was having his issues. He got some some blowjob jokes thrown at him. But the way it is today, how you have an agenda,
Starting point is 03:36:35 the way it is today, like you got Jimmy Kimmel crying on air after the after the election. Yeah. Oh, you know, Jimmy, Jimmy got a little cracked up, you know. He's wait, what network is that on? It's abc probably jimmy. It's on nbc No Like yeah, it says the tonight show starring jimmy fallon nbc.com jimmy. Kimmel. Kimmel. Kimmel Kimmel yeah, Kimmel Fallon and especially colbert have an ebc
Starting point is 03:37:03 It didn't used to be that these if these late night campaign or shows had a leaning maybe, but not an agenda. Colbert was like an agent of the blue team trying to help them win. Yeah. I'm sure back in the day you'd have like the, Bob Dole went on both of those shows. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:37:20 Like, and had a good time with them. I'm sure they were kind to Bob Dole. He lost weight. When lost weight on those shows I've been embarrassing news. What a fucking can you imagine being worth? Well, yeah show him a blackface Zach show him in blackface now He'll O'Neill on the man show which was a funny show. It's Carl. It's Carl Carl Malone When he and Adam Kroll we're still doing a funny show on Spike TV. The man show. Yeah, the man show. I mean, I was like 14, but I remember. Oh, oh, oh, now I'm gonna cry.
Starting point is 03:37:52 I'm okay with this, actually. Does that make me racist? I'm like, man. No, it makes him racist. Comedians tell jokes. People say black faces out of style. I say it never left. tell jokes. People say people say black faces out of style. I say it never left. I say we bring black. We're bringing blackface back, folks. We're going to do it. Was he making fun of where they're
Starting point is 03:38:12 tricking? Show the one where they're tricking. One of them tricks the woman into looking through that little telescope thing at the at the. While the other one, like, ogles her and like looks under her skirt and stuff.
Starting point is 03:38:25 He looks better in blackface there as the woman. Is that is that an Oprah he's trying to do? Or like, I mean, it kind of looks like... It would have had to have been Oprah. Think about the time it was. Yeah, it's not Michelle Obama. No, this was pre-Michelle Obama. It had to have been Oprah. I mean, she existed, I'm sure. And it works. Like, he's a little thinner than Oprah was at the time. It's good stuff. Yeah. Anyway, he cried. But yeah, he cried.
Starting point is 03:38:49 And it didn't used to be like that to make your point. Like they didn't. Leno and Letterman were definitely not these agents for the DNC, which I strongly feel like all of the late night guys are except for Conan. Again, again, Conan is just like his own say right yeah political always like Jimmy Kimmel on ABC weeping over the loss of a Democratic candidate pretty yeah tip of the hat that goes to your point yeah it's lame I just want entertainment in that space and but look you go to Fox
Starting point is 03:39:21 News to the most popular late night show at Greg Gutfield and it is so far to the right. It's further to the right than the guy crying over there is. Like it really is. Fox News is a fucking joke. Like every single segment seems to be like, the Democrats are doing this. How's this gonna impact our ability to give Israel a Jillian dollar?
Starting point is 03:39:40 It's like, stop it. I try to help. It doesn't change my mind, but I hope that it helps me understand how people have the other opinion. Like that. That's why I watch Fox News. I'm trying to think of a better like right wing news source because like I hate I do not see my views represented on Fox at all. I feel like all the time I love it.
Starting point is 03:40:01 op ed op ed is is it's such a tough pill to swallow like because they're all they're all Again tapping into that fight-or-flight response just to keep you hooked to keep you coming back Get more impressions get more ad revenue like confirmation bias And it's just it's so gross. It's like what what what the fuck happened to just reporting? It's so gross. It's like, what the fuck happened to just reporting? Like, can you just give me some facts and like, maybe trust that I'm smart enough to figure out? Here's the secret, Richard. There was never just straight reporting.
Starting point is 03:40:34 Yeah, there was. Well, the dream of like, oh, that journalist in the 70s, like they were still influenced. I mean, it's not like it's nothing like, oh, not like now they did their best. And here's here's what I want to get out. There used to be a huge penalty for getting the news wrong. I remember, I think it was Dan Rather, who falsely put out this letter about W's service in the National Guard,
Starting point is 03:40:58 maybe something about avoiding the draft or whatever. And he presented it as real. He didn't know, he fucked up. So it turned out that it was like, they could tell it was a fake letter because it came off a word processor instead of a typewriter or something like that. But he fell for it, reported it as it was news
Starting point is 03:41:18 instead of it being a prank or a mistake, and it ruined him. It became this really big deal. It ruined his name. It ruined his good, he got fired, I think. It was terrible. Now, do I have the wrong person? Is it not Dan Rad? I was just gonna add onto that.
Starting point is 03:41:34 Do you remember when Geraldo Rivera exposed troop movements during the fucking war live on TV? It may have been when we were first going into Kuwait, like maybe Desert Storm was beginning or something like that. Or it may have been one of the... We kept going back over there. I lost track, but it was one of those. But when you got the news wrong, when you found out and got the news wrong,
Starting point is 03:41:58 it used to be you'd lose public trust. There was a penalty. Your ratings went down. You would get fired. It was a problem. Now, if you get news wrong, as long as I wish it was right, it's cool. Yeah. That's that. That's a lot of that. Did you see the, the crew over at morning? Joe, who got to be the most vehement hate Trump, Trump haters on the, in the world. Um, I think that the MSNBC morning show, Joe Scarborough and his wife, Mika went to Marlano.
Starting point is 03:42:28 They were husband and wife. That's such a cool perspective change. You're watching this shit. I watch everything. I want to know what people think and what they're saying. You know, I want to stay well informed, Taylor. You know, maybe if you were well informed, you'd spin the brave Ukrainians. I don't think network news is the way to stay informed. Okay, well, I want to know what's going on over there. Nonetheless, I'm not going to turn a blind eye to it. And over there, they are the most vehement Trump haters in the world. As far as I'm concerned, they've been calling him Hitler and the fat end of democracy every day for months and months and months. And then their show like either yesterday or today was like, so on Thursday, we made a request to the Trump team that, you know, we'd like
Starting point is 03:43:08 to sit down with him sometime. And on Friday, he obliged. And we did, in fact, sit down with the president elect. And she's just like, he was polite. He didn't shoot himself or anything like she's having such a hard time expressing that we disagreed, disagreed, but it was good that we touch base. And it's like, you bent the knee, bitch. You bent the knee, bitch.
Starting point is 03:43:31 You crawled your ass down to Florida because big daddy wanted to talk to you. And I love that he immediately got back to her and was cordial and polite. But, you know, when he got him behind closed doors, he's like, you guys don't like me very much, do you? I agree. I checked it, by the way, like me very much, do you? I agree. I checked it, by the way, she is a nice. So they're married right now. That's cool. That's cool.
Starting point is 03:43:51 I like a like a husband and wife, too. Oh, yeah. That's what the Republicans need. They need a like a sexy, like a blonde lady and her husband to be a dynamic Republican duo to combat that and they just have morning Joe. Yeah, to combat that. And they just have- To combat Morning Joe? Yeah, to combat Morning Joe. The heavy hitters that they are. Fucking evening Steve,
Starting point is 03:44:10 and he's always just happy and cheerful and showing the good things in the world. MSNBC is gonna be sold. His wife's really horny. I'm curious. You don't let her talk. I'm sorry, Woody. All I said was, do you think so?
Starting point is 03:44:19 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Their ratings are way too bad. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Like their ratings are way too bad. The parent networks like NBC are taking ratings hits, I think because of their association with like absurd propaganda on MSNBC, just hateful shit. And so like they are gonna cut it loose because NBC is not gonna jeopardize their ratings on the main
Starting point is 03:44:46 network seriously tanking because of an association like this. Add that to the fact that MSNBC's ratings themselves are so unbelievably low that most, not even hyper YouTubers, but just big YouTubers beat the fuck out of them in viewership. I'm curious to see who buys it and if there will be a total shift change in what happens. But it also is a thing of like I saw people being like, Oh, Elon Musk is going to buy MSNBC and make it some news network. And it's like, why Twitter is bigger than ever right now. People are people are like just the nature of people getting older, like boomers dying, people who got their news from TV primarily dying, like the transition is towards social.
Starting point is 03:45:30 And so buying MSNBC, even if you were some like Miriam Adelson style hyper right wing Zionist person who wanted to buy that, like there's really no purpose anymore. I don't know why anyone would buy it. Like to be buying, I'm sorry, buying MSNBC is a little bit buying AT&T's landline business.
Starting point is 03:45:48 Like this more terrestrial radio, like these are not the directions people are going. MSNBC, I just like their staff, their cast so much. Almost every host they have on there, I'm like, not this one. And even the better ones, I think are below average, you know Like they really wanted to knock it out of the park. No, no shit. I'm not even joking here They would fucking axe most of the the cast and they would hire the Harry Sissons and stuff like that
Starting point is 03:46:16 I'm not I'm not even joking. They would revitalize the you know kind of base like I think that would be the move if they were wanting to do it. Youth doesn't watch network TV. But I think at this point in time, there are some shifts happening and you could probably, it could be a wild card. I think you could draw some in. Maybe you're right,
Starting point is 03:46:40 but from just a baseline impression perspective, genuinely a big TikTok account is more influential than MSNBC. Like social media is winning because it's more accessible and it's more real time. And so people are moving away from the kind of anachronistic, but why you have because it's no longer the quickest. Like if you want to see something, they're not taking it. They're not, they're not, they're not approaching it from a strategic point of view. Well, they are, but a failed one, right? Because they're looking monolithically as network TV, here's how we're going to do this, this is the way it's always been done. But if you
Starting point is 03:47:17 leverage TikTok in a way that you build on top of the show and you have layers that interact in different ways that you need one without, you can't have one without the other. I think you would do, you would have a really good shot at driving ratings up, right? Because people are emotionally invested, they want these people 24 seven,
Starting point is 03:47:40 but if they had this kind of payoff for the network, I think they would tune in. I mean, they would still interact with the social component on TikTok and everything. But I think we're going to see is that like the networks are going to shift to the right to try to court that audience that is clearly more right. And they're not going to want to hear doomsday foretellers all day every day on every single network. I saw Dana Bash, I think it is. She's the blonde lady on CNN. There is a Nazi turf war that flared up in Columbus, Ohio. You may have heard about what there was a Nazi turf war that flared up in the streets of Columbus, Ohio, that
Starting point is 03:48:19 you may or may not have heard about. You may have seen the black and red Nazi swastika flags and the masks and such. And Dana Bash was commenting on it and she was like, no way to really to tell if these are right wing or left wing. Something like that. Like she refused to take like sides and like, like it's been clear. Did they have folds? Were there folds in the Nazi flag still or no? They were like nice black. I mean I can show you the video. They look nice to me I looked up the social blade stack. Are you asking are you Alex Jones in this? Do you think these are like crisis actors with folded flags or I don't understand No, like the ones that you buy off Amazon and they still have all the creases They don't look crease to me. These look like they're well ironed. I've never seen the red and black
Starting point is 03:49:04 That's kind of I mean look I'm not gonna. These look like they're well ironed. I've never seen the red and black. That's kinda, I mean, look, I'm not gonna become a Nazi because they've got a cool color theme now, but I'm just saying I'm a little more tempted than I was yesterday. So here's some numbers, because we talked about numbers. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:49:15 I was curious. Fox News YouTube channel, last month, these are in millions, 426. So 426, 100 million. 426, so 426, 100 million. MSNBC 272, so a little more than half. CNN, 173, I didn't expect it to be third. Yeah, CNN's viewership is, I believe, older than MSNBC's and so you have more like older Gen X and Boomers
Starting point is 03:49:43 who are on the left watching CNN. MSNBC is wholly irrelevant. Fox will, we're about to see a precipitous decline in Fox based solely on nothing more than boomers dying. Like that's what I'm, I'm serious. I was going a different way. You know what? I think it might be, you know how when gun restrictions are about to get passed, there's hardly standing room in the gun store? Yep. But when everything's fine, their sales are low.
Starting point is 03:50:12 I think Fox News might be less interesting right now because they won. And that's another good point as well. I was holding off and that was my point. I was like, if you were gonna buy MSNBC, now's the time to be getting ready to buy it for pennies on the dollar because you've got four years of a Trump administration for those people to really kind of catch steam and whatever it is going to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:50:34 Yeah. And that's true. But like, liberals have been drifting away from MSNBC for a while towards either just online news or the main core CBS, ABC, or CBS, ABC, NBC. I want accurate news. I want my predictions to be right. I want the things that I base my opinions on to be on target. Like accurate news is why I like PBS.
Starting point is 03:51:01 So you blame the news for the for the bet. You feel you are misinformed. Let us know. No, no you blame the news for the bet. You feel you were misinformed. Let us know. No, no, I blame me for the bet. I blame the news for making me think I was gonna win on like January, November 1st. And that's fair. I mean, that's what you would expect
Starting point is 03:51:16 if there was a large media apparatus that had the same bias. Don't worry, Woody, you know that bitch that led you astray retired, right? Like she was so embarrassed. Ann Snells are that She quit and in defeat like that she was supposed to be the gold standard for her polls she says Like Kamala's leading, Iowa like three points three days before election day
Starting point is 03:51:39 And I believed it and I was in here with you thinking like fuck. I got to send this guy money He's supposed to have any money. I'm so mad. I'm so I couldn't look on election night. I was watching police videos until I started getting hints that it was looking good. And then I switched over. I didn't want to take the defeat. I had PayPal pulled up on an iPad. And then what happened? You pivoted from a perfect victory against Woody into the ultimate loss against me on the size of basketball hoops. Oh, no, no. I, no, and I still stand by the fact that first of all-
Starting point is 03:52:12 You know how I won that? Facts and logic. No, not facts and logic, but because it's so close that you even had to be like, oh wow. I was actually, I was nervous when I saw it. First of all, two basketballs do fit into the rim. They just won't go through. And I know that's a weird like, like, yeah, so it doesn't like fit in the
Starting point is 03:52:31 definition of the word fit. And I was led astray because Neil deGrasse Tyson is on I linked I linked you to Neil deGrasse Tyson, like saying that they'll get through it. I watched you I watched that cocksucker say these words to like a group. He was on a podcast and he was like, did you know? Did you know that, you know, he was talking about how like accurate some more like Michael Jordan was being like, oh, but didn't you know that it's twice as big as it needs to be.
Starting point is 03:52:59 Two basketballs will fit through an NBA hoop side by side. And they're all like, wow, mind blown, black science man. And I was, and I was like, put that one in the old memory warehouse, but that store, that went away under like silly facts to, to, to fuck with Taylor about. And, and then when it came time to go in the old memory warehouse, I wanted the drawer, pulled the file out. Yep.
Starting point is 03:53:22 Yep. Checks out black science man says it's good. Throw it in your face and you'd fucking checkmated me it was bullshit I won't pay it you could send him an IOU send it over to Neil deGrasse Tyson at Twitter and yeah and now you know what else that guy said he said Pluto is not a planet does that make you question? Pluto is more a planet than it's ever been. Why would I bother? I don't know why you hate Pluto so much. I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:53:55 And do you guys wrap up at four hours on this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do. All right. Well, I got it. OK, OK. Yeah, I was going to say, no, no, no, I need to get something in because, yeah, well, so the book that I've been writing is on addiction. And I like to lead every chapter with a quote. I start the book with a quote from Prince and there's a war going on. The battlefield is in the mind and the prize is the soul. And the book's about about digital addiction and everything.
Starting point is 03:54:25 And the fifth chapter is on detoxing. And I was looking through different areas within the Bible to try to find a quote. And so I dropped them in the chat there and I was like, fucking Taylor would be perfect to pick this because he's always dropping quotes whenever we're doing a podcast. I couldn't figure out something to lead that chapter.
Starting point is 03:54:52 And I didn't know if you had any thoughts on that or anything like that. So what's the full theme of the chapter? So the fifth chapter is on detoxing. And thinking about it like a quote about strength and, you know, either perseverance, knowing that there's a light at the end of the tunnel. You know, I don't know if you can see what I dropped in. There was two from Romans and... Yes, I see that. In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents. Luke 15 10. Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings because we know that suffering produces perseverance,
Starting point is 03:55:34 character, and hope. Romans 5, 3 to 4. And I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. Romans 18 8. And I do not consider that I have made it on my own, but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on Philippians 3.13-14. Of those ones, I got to say, I like the Philippians one the most at the end. The straining forward to what lies ahead and press on, being nitpicky, let's go ahead and King James this up. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 03:56:12 Get King James in there. Yeah, please. Let's do that. Let's see, Philippians 3.13 and. Because I will use it. Because this is the one quote I've been struggling with. Yeah, this is, you know, you want more Bible sounding, you go New King James Version. Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended, but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead.
Starting point is 03:56:43 Better. Better. Yeah. Like there's a bias, but the new King James version of the Bible is the best one we have access to. And so I would use that one. Sounds more regal. Paste it, paste it in the chat and I'll put it in there and I'll, I will think, I'm going to
Starting point is 03:57:01 thank every one of you guys for helping contribute to me writing the book. Yeah, that's good. I can't tell people I'm a published author on my Twitter bio now. You should, I'm gonna add it right now. But yeah, that's good. I like Bible verses and places like that.
Starting point is 03:57:18 People rip on it, but there's a tremendous amount of wisdom and knowledge in the Bible. And so that's very good. And it's inspiring. Yeah, it was one of those things that for me was like, it was really, really challenging surprisingly because what I was doing, I was taking a look at my insight and I was like 50 plus hours a week on my phone and then looking at how much time was like on Instagram and everything else, it's like, fuck man man, if I were to extrapolate this out over
Starting point is 03:57:45 the average lifespan of a male, and dude, that's more than a year of my life. So for me, I know a lot of people are going to downplay the addiction component to their phones and stuff like that, but at least I'm giving my anecdotal journey and process for developing these tools that kind of help me find balance. Good.
Starting point is 03:58:08 Like I'm excited that you're doing this, man. And this is a good verse from 2nd Peter that could also maybe apply. I love it. We're just doing Bible stuff now, boys. I love it. I was going to pick a movie quote. No, no, no. We will not dilute this with movies. I'm it. I was gonna pick a movie quote. No, no, no. Oh, dude, dude, I end the book. We will not dilute this with movies.
Starting point is 03:58:26 I'm ruining, I'm ruining, I'm ruining like with like spoiler alerts here, but I end the book with Joe Dirt, it's life's garden, dig it. This is another one that I think I'll read it. It's second Peter one, five through eight for the intro there. And besides this giving all diligence,
Starting point is 03:58:43 add to your faith virtue and to virtue knowledge and to virtue knowledge, and to knowledge temperance, and to temperance patience, and to patience godliness, and to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness charity. And so it's almost a guide step of what to add in what order in order to fulfill and to fortify yourself in Christ. And so that's very good. Kyle, get that shit out of here. What the fuck is that? Okay, my bad. I thought my quote was cool too. 13th Warden. Freaking kid, dumbass. Oh, I literally thought that was like a Quran post. It is? Oh, well then I was right. I don't know if it's a Quran post. It is? Oh, well then I was right. I don't know if it's a Quran.
Starting point is 03:59:30 It is a it is a Muslim character who says the words. So she's going to be mad at me, but nah, we're going Bible mode, bitch. We're not going Quran mode. I mean, I quote I quote Charlie Munger in the analytics part, right? Show me the incentive. I'll show you the outcome. I like a bunch of really good quotes. Fuck them all. I like Charlie Munger. Yeah. What did he write?
Starting point is 03:59:52 This is the best quote. He is Warren Buffett sort of- Was, but yeah. Right hand man, I think he died recently, yeah. Yeah. And I don't know, he speaks about business in a way that's somehow to me both simple and insightful and I like that.
Starting point is 04:00:07 So simple. So simple. That's some of the easiest way to tell someone really is astute at what they're talking about is an ability to concisely express a very complex idea. It's like, oh, okay, this guy just explained something that's way over my head in layman's terms rapidly. This guy actually explained something that's way over my head and layman's terms rapidly this guy actually gets it Yeah, he's he's a great business man and
Starting point is 04:00:31 It's dead you ever seen the third Have I seen the 13th what warrior 13th warrior? No, and you know, I haven't man Just bullying me at this point I asked Taylor because it's perfect setup. Is it a movie? If I asked Woody, he'd be like, yeah, it's good. I'd be like, it's good. I feel that purpose. Ask me any movie you want to explain.
Starting point is 04:00:57 I'll say I've never seen it. I know you'll say, I can be like, hey, you ever see the Ten Commandments? He'd be like, nope. And I can quickly pivot and tell you about Charlton Charlton Heston And that'll be great. But no fucking 13th warrior Antonio Banderas. He joins up this group of Viking war like him They're go they're answering the call of a faraway king They have to sail there on a long boat and they press Antonio Banderas into service because one of them old Viking blind witches foretells that they have to pick a 13th warrior from far away
Starting point is 04:01:23 and so they like press him into service and they go to this far away king and his far away land and it's a bit like there's a there's the kingdom is beset by monsters that come at night and kill them like werewolves essentially and so right away the first night they're like alright well we'll sleep right here with you if the werewolves we'll fucking kill them. And the werewolves come the first night and kill a bunch of our good guys. It's a great story. It's Vikings and Antonio Medeiros is there the whole time, kind of as the audience's viewpoint, because he's never met a Viking before. He's not a Viking. No, but he quickly like learns to speak Norse
Starting point is 04:01:58 just by listening. So that's helpful. That would be, okay. Yeah, it's interesting. I'll put that on the not gonna see it list. Yeah It's a huge list you Know what you know, it's at the tippity top Terminator 2 and Terminator 1 Not gonna watch it all the Rockies tailing haven't seen any of them
Starting point is 04:02:20 I'm not gonna watch it. Have you seen all the Rockies, Taylor? Haven't seen any of them. I've never seen Rocky one. I'm not joking. I've never seen Rocky. Wow. At this point, I'll see a classic movie. I haven't seen anything either.
Starting point is 04:02:31 You're not missing anything. Titanic's nothing. You're fine. You know what happens. It's a love story. None of the dick flicks I've seen. Everyone's sad. I saw- Dirty dancing, none of it.
Starting point is 04:02:41 I saw a clip of this old couple that was really sad, crying on a bed as their room filled with water in a GIF and I'm like, that's probably Titanic. I Don't know I get married Yeah Movies that's for the birds You have a steady girl, I'm curious. No, no. No, I mean, yeah. I've yeah we Could get into it. It's a little complicated.
Starting point is 04:03:06 It seems that the high level answer is- No, no, it's not even complicated. Oh, it's very simple these days. Richard simplified the shit out of it. It's not even complicated. The answer is no. No, no. Yeah, I'll tell you some more stuff later. Maybe.
Starting point is 04:03:26 You're going to be a tremendous king to some queen out there, my friend. That's true. Yeah. All right. There's a lucky girl out there somewhere. She doesn't know who she is. You guys ready? Richard, is there anything else you want to push towards? Any? No. No. Thank you guys. I really appreciate it. I mean, if you got anybody does want to like donate to warrior dog and check that out, that'd be epic. You know, I have some AI products and stuff. I'll probably show you guys. I was even going to do some stuff on here, but I forgot. So fuck it. Next time. Next time. Next time. For sure. Check it out. Donate to Richard's project and check out all the sponsors.
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