Painkiller Already - PKA 728 W/ Oompaville: Mr. Beast's Response: The Interview

Episode Date: November 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKA 728 with our one of our favorite guests, Caleb Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Lock and Load. It's brought to you by Bluechew and it's brought to you by our wonderful merch. Caleb, the biggest interviewer on the planet at the moment. Not even, not the biggest, Taylor, the best. The best. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:21 The most popular. Very little negative feedback, very little. I watched the whole two and a half hour thing. Did you? Yeah, I did. And it's two hour 37 minutes, something like that. And I do this thing, I can't stop it where I like put myself in that position.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I have been in the heart of drama. Of course I'm never been as relevant as Mr. Beast, but in my own little universe, I feel like the middle of it and I like everywhere I go, someone's giving me even me shit and I always every time wished that people had the accurate facts I was like if these guys knew what they were talking about They wouldn't be mad at me every time I wish and I can see why mr. Beast took the interview like just to tell his side Good gosh, everyone's making shit up. Yeah, and that's, you know, I set out from the very beginning, I made a little part in the very beginning where I was like,
Starting point is 00:01:07 listen guys, conversation, it's not an interview, really, to be honest, we've got questions. They're based on things that I've covered in my own videos. I'm doing the exact same thing I did with Dawson, with Mr. Beast, and which is just ask him about stuff. And people, most people like that a lot. But there's a there's a strong there's a strong number of haters that I've currently got right now
Starting point is 00:01:31 who did not like my my my blase lackadaisical approach to the extremely serious world changing revelation of evil. They didn't think that you took the Mr. Beast YouTube drama as serious as it deserves. Yeah, yeah. Like when Oliver Stone went and spoke to Putin. This is insane.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Exactly, it was my own privilege. It was my Oliver Stone movement. I had a question. Was there any explanation Mr. Beast gave that now that you've had a few days to sort of stew on it and ponder, you don't buy. So I'll be real, I haven't even thought about it at all.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I've been super busy this week. Okay. It's been, I've been at such a busy week. Like it sounds so insane. I know people probably don't believe me, but like if I had to think of one where I'm just like, I wish I would have asked more about that. I definitely wish I would have asked more of if he still talks to Ava Tyson and more about the Beast Games, the show that he's releasing,
Starting point is 00:02:37 because a lot of that stuff, since it's not since it's all in the eight, it's not released. There's a lot of you know, he controls the lion's share of information when it comes to that right now and like There's just it's a very muddy water. Mr. Beast allegations are very muddy waters. So I've always been pro. Mr. Beast I like the guy I think he doesn't you know, if you remove mr Beast from the world the world gets a little bit worse like he is a net positive. So that's where I'm coming from It was the crypto thing that made me wonder, right? Like I heard him tell the story. Gary V called me up. He said, buy this
Starting point is 00:03:10 crypto, it'll be the best decision in your life or take this call. It'll be the best decision in your life and take the call and they tell him to buy crypto. He does. Did he turn 10 grand into a million? Does that sound right? Oh, wow. It. If that's not right, it's close-ish. Like it was a wild game. And he made it turn a hundred grand into 10 million. It was great.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And then he's like, yeah, a fund manages all that. And I'm like, well, it might be in a fund. Did you direct the fund? It really sounds like you bought it because of this meeting with Gary Vee. Yeah, that's um, yeah, I mean, that's right. I called him back at the end of the video, and he said that he, you know, I asked him multiple times if he, if he had control over the fund. And yes, obviously he had control of the fund just because the fund is his reasoning, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:00 one is in the main interview, he said that I'm sure that fund was still trading while I was trapped underground, and we could prove that. But there still were instances in which obviously it's he had control of the fund at some point. That's inarguable. If I was like, I'm not responsible for these investments. JP Morgan manages that. Yeah. You're like, yeah, they do whatever you tell them to be your browser. Like, you're responsible. Help me out, though. Like what's I don't know anything
Starting point is 00:04:26 about is crypto. So what about is why do I care who directed it? Caleb, do you want to take it or should I? You can take it. What do you see? You seem to care more about this than I do. Tell me if you if you see anything wrong with what I'm saying. That are you good? So it he was doing nothing and Gary Vanderchup, do you know this name, Gary V? Nope.
Starting point is 00:04:48 He's a finance guy. So this is again. He's a genius. He is a marketing genius. He started out, his family sold wine and they had like a little wine business that teetered along and did whatever. And then he used social media
Starting point is 00:05:02 to get kind of famous in the wine world and like did all these crazy weird things to be better at reviewing wines than other people. He's like, if I'm gonna say wine tests like sweaty socks, I need to literally know what sweaty socks tastes like. So this is me expanding my palette. Like that kind of stuff that broke the mold of other wine like reviewers and podcasts, et cetera. Well, anyway, once he got sort of cooking in this like wine world of social media,
Starting point is 00:05:30 he expanded it beyond that and he wrote books. I've listened to like four of this guy's audio books. Um, and some of them have like really influenced the way that I think about certain business topics. And his core competency is sort of this like marketing, influencing, buying Facebook ads and stuff like that. And I guess he called Mr. Beast, said, get in this conference call,
Starting point is 00:05:54 it'll be the best decision of your life. Right away, the kind of bold salesman sort of statements. And they told these guys to buy crypto and it did fabulously well. I don't wanna promise I have my numbers right, but it's something like that. Like he dropped 100 grand. Like 20x or something, but my question is,
Starting point is 00:06:13 why do I care? The accusation is he traded on InsideInfo and sort of got in and got out with information that made it an unfair playing field. What would that information be? I need to know. So when to buy and when to sell, like he got in before this thing popped, he sold while it was at the peak and no one else had this insider info. Yeah. I would need to know what that info is though. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Because I'm going to tell you, like Harley told me to buy Bitcoin eight years ago. I did so far. I'm up $50,000. But this one's now probably in trouble. Yes. He's an insider. No, this is a coin that people hadn't heard of that was nothing. You know, people come up with new coins,
Starting point is 00:06:57 all the CX coin. And I think it's a little bigger than the CX coin, but it's something that no one had heard of before MrBeast bought it. And then bigger than the CX coin, but it's something that no one had heard of before Mr. Beast bought it. And then when famous people bought it, I think he even tweeted about it, like little hints that this thing is where everyone's going. Were people accusing a rug pull situation?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Is that what it was? Well, he didn't own the coin. He just got in and out at the perfect, it's more like a Hillary Clinton cattle trading situation. Okay. And that's the accusation. And then he was like, Well, that's all in a fund. I don't know anything about it. And it's like, that doesn't jive with your other story of Gary Vee, getting you on the phone telling you a tenant. That
Starting point is 00:07:39 was the one where I was like, and by the way, unlike the scale of evil, this pretty mild, right? Yeah, I don't care. Even so, I care about the crypto stuff when I feel like a fan base has been victimized when you have someone who is utilized like they're big in the cooking world or the cosmetic world. And suddenly they say, hey, now I'm in the crypto world by fucking Maybelline coin or whatever. And then they pull the rug and they take their fan base for a ride for a few hundred grand or a million or whatever it may be. But that's not what we got here. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:12 What we have here is, hey, buy this on the first, sell it on the 13th, you'll make $10 million. What we got is Mr. Beast needs to send the tweet us occasionally when he's got one of these. That's what I'm 100% Kyle. That's the correct take. I'm mad that he isn't DMing me with these things at the time. You guys know he owns my channel, my business. Have you heard that? He owns you. You're his bitch. I'm his bitch. The reason he chose. So listen to this. This is the new conspiracy. It's even like it's even on my second channel, people are commenting this. Is it true that MrBeast owns part of your startup?
Starting point is 00:08:49 My candy company that I have. So there's a company called Creative Juice and Creative Juice invests in creators. 2021, they bought a percentage of my channel and gave me money so I could start up my business. That business is in somehow connected to MrBeast. It's a creator forward business. There's not one in which he's not connected to, right? Especially in 2021. And because of that, because I got $250,000, that somehow makes MrBeast, they gave him
Starting point is 00:09:21 enough power over me to give him this interview that made him apparently look incredibly good. And also, but it doesn't take into consideration the 10 videos where I like vocally and blatantly propagated lies and misinformation about him online. I maybe did that. I maybe did that. Never once. Tongue in cheek. He knows. He knows, Kyle, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I asked him about it. He said it was okay because he owns part of my YouTube channel and my can company. Those are all lies. It's all facetious. But yeah, that's the big thing though right now is that he owed... The reason I was so nice to him and the reason that I asked him softball questions is because he owns my channel and he wanted the easiest platform with the least pushback.
Starting point is 00:10:14 But he didn't want to make a statement on his own channels where he would have zero pushback because that wouldn't make sense. He wanted to come on. Every single thing you said untrue? It's all conspiracy. I'm being harangued, Woody. I'm being harangued. He'd never do that in your candy company. So that part, he didn't, but Creative Juice did. Creative Juice gave me money for a percentage, for a 22% interest rate, basically usury, you know, it's like
Starting point is 00:10:46 hard money lending. They try to dive into the, they're bankrupt now. They don't exist anymore. Wow. So you took $250,000 from the creative Jews and now they own your family. No, no, Taylor, no. No, it's, yeah, I mean, it was literally like they used AdSense as collateral. It was a bad deal. But it absolutely it absolutely helped me. I never spoke to Mr. B's. It was it was good for me at the time. Like it was it was great. I'm not but you know, with the level of sense that I have now and the you know, there's more of a I actually have like equity in the business now so I can get money from from traditional lending, which is, you know, superior by a million times.
Starting point is 00:11:26 So it would be just like starting any business. You get a high, a high interest rate. They expect a high return. It's a big risk, whatever. Okay. That's very normal. Right. Like in, in the world of business, it's very normal. What is it? What did they like? What is the thing that everybody's mad about? Like what topic do they think you should have gone hard? Was it like the, oh, he hired a sex pest knowingly, like that accusation? Yeah, it's that. They were mad that I didn't ask about Shadman, but I did.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Like there's literally comments who are like, there's thousands of people who are upset. I didn't ask about Shadman. And Ava Tyson had Shadman shit on her on on her wall and like, it's mainly the the pedo shit. Like the Delaware thing, the Ava thing. The Delaware thing. I feel like not only did you guys cover that in depth, but yeah, call back and like fill in some blank. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I it is it. I mean, the criticism is totally valid. People just were, you know, I disagree.
Starting point is 00:12:26 OK, I appreciate that. Give us the back story on the what's the Delaware thing? Oh, so the Delaware thing is Mr. Beast. This is the story, right? This is what people believe. Mr. Beast hired a pedophile, knew about it, and then formed his business around multiple different sex pests and pedophiles and his eyes wide shut.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Evil Antichrist. They called him Delaware as a nickname because of his history of sexual assault in Delaware. That was the, that's the fake. This is the guy that we've, I think last time you're on, we pulled up his documents and that seems pretty sinister. He's a registered sex offender. And if you know, you hire a registered sex offender, that's bad. You're supposed to do background checks. There's a reason for all that. Uh,
Starting point is 00:13:04 you know, which obviously there is. His explanation for that is that he hired him when he was 19 years old. They filmed a bunch of videos at Best Buy and Delaware was there. You can see his name tag without a mask on in the video. You can see his name tag at Best Buy
Starting point is 00:13:20 before Mr. Beast hired him. So there's like proof that he worked at Best Buy, which I mean, I guess Best Buy hires RSA registered sex offenders. I said. I think the name tag said Delaware. It said Delaware literally on it. So the whole thing about Delaware
Starting point is 00:13:33 being a nickname reference. Yeah. The good goes by Delaware. Yeah. And so they hired him after he, they liked him at Best Buy, they thought he was funny. And then he was in a bunch of videos without a mask on. And then a lot of people, you know, say that because he was wearing a mask,
Starting point is 00:13:47 he was trying to hide his identity. And then the thing is that they called him Delaware because he's a pedo from Delaware. He's a child rapist from Delaware or whatever his fucking charges. Probably should fact check that. But he's a registered sex offender from from Delaware. I've been seeing I don't know, dude. Registered sex offender from Delaware, I've been seeing, I don't know, dude, registered sex finner from Delaware, who Mr. Beast knowingly hired.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And yeah, his business is allegedly full of freaks like that. Like facts. And then there's, you know, my gut. And he told this story where he's like he he called his mom. Now, his mom was in charge of H.R., which sounds terrible, right? You should have someone less bias. But when he was like, I was 19, she was my HR manager, my CIO, my CFO, my this, my that. I'm in over my head.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I'm a teenager. And I pulled in my mom to help me, you know, like someone you could trust. That's a really common thing to do. And it didn't strike me as evil. All right, back on topic. He calls his mom and he's like, did we do this? Did we do what people are saying? And she's like, back on topic. He calls his mom and he's like, did we do this? Did we do what people are saying? And she's like, no, no, I would never knowingly hire
Starting point is 00:14:48 a sex offender and have him work with my teenage son. It's like, like that doesn't make sense. I would, I would sooner shut down the business than have you with a sex offender on a daily basis. And I was like, that just checks out at a knee jerk. What if he's like really funny though? Nah, too sure. What if he's hysterical?
Starting point is 00:15:07 What if he can sing like Michael Jackson? Then you have to over look. I thought Mr. V's came out looking really good from that interview. And I put myself in that situation where it's like, oh, so many times I've just wished people were well informed. And if they were, they would have a higher opinion of me in whatever drama I was in. It's a thing I many times I just wish people were well-informed and if they were, they would have a higher opinion of me in whatever drama I was in.
Starting point is 00:15:27 It's a thing I do when I watch content. I would have asked. Was a lot of the punishment or like the vitriol coming at you with the Shad Man stuff? Cause we talked about him on the show. I think last time you were here, he's the guy who like makes those weird sexualized drawings of children as cartoons.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And the only picture I saw of Mr. Beast like seeing one of those was like a screenshot from, I guess, a super old video where they're at Chris Tyson's house. And there's a picture up of like a sexualized child. And Mr. Beast is like looking at it with like that. Just like sometimes people can't hide disgust on their face. And he had disgust looking at it like, what the fuck is this pervert have on his wall? And it's not like there's nothing else on his wall. Just one picture of like a sexualized kid.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And that was it. So like, are are they still on about because I feel like it's it's such good meme material, like you could change that photo to any. It's him looking over at it like, hmm, what the fuck is this? What is his name? Shad S.H.A.D. Shad fan. It was the beast. Also, for clarification, the the Internet says that the charge for Delaware was rape, fourth degree sexual intercourse victim, less than 18 years old,
Starting point is 00:16:40 victims age one and 11 between one and 11. Oh, don't like that. Yeah. So which that's what it says on the Internet based on a picture from the like this is all provided by Dawson and his in his video. So, yeah, yeah. One of the first one is posting a clip of Mr. Beast talking about Chris having moved out.
Starting point is 00:17:01 But the Shad man art is still up behind him. Oh, my God. Wow. Oh, fuck. This is hard hitting journalism. Yeah, it is bad. So like a lot of this stuff is really bad. But seriously, though, if I went if Kyle invited me over to hang out and he had that picture on his wall, I'm we're going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I need to I'm going to be like, what the fuck is like what are you doing like I thought you were more of like a Kramer in a funny frame kind of guy not a yeah a nine-year-old because I have this wide angle shot where you can tip but it's even blurred in the wide angle okay like can you just tell me what it is like I don't know exactly what it is. Okay. Yeah. But CP is like a thousand different things that two children time together, or is it like an adult doing something to a child or is it a naked little girl? Like, tell me what it is.
Starting point is 00:18:00 It's scrubbed out. I can't see. I don't know what that means. Me neither. So is it like, could you take a guess? Because I bet it might be on target. So is it animated or is it a real girl then? No it's it's a drawing, but I can't see. It's like the picture I'm seeing on Twitter. It's all red and scribbled out pretty much the entire thing other than the face.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So I can't see what actually is there. You know, and like I'm not trying to split hairs here, but sometimes it matters, you know, with stuff like this, with the other dude, like one to 11, sometimes we're like, wait a minute, how old was this person? 17 and seven sixteenths or whatever. But one to 11, there's no splitting those hairs.
Starting point is 00:18:41 That's fucked up. The shad man. Can I tell everyone what Lolly means? Just cause I think maybe I'm not alone. It's a young or young looking girl character in Japanese anime. Trust me, you were alone with our audience. They all know what Lolly is all about.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Dude, the Japanese are fucking wild, man. I knew that was like something creepy and pedophilic. I didn't know the specific definition. So it's just it's just underage drawn pornography. Yeah. You're going back to Lolita the whole time.
Starting point is 00:19:14 But because it was drawn, it was illegal. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. And I'm a I do believe that. I think you should be to draw whatever the fuck you want. Like, I don't I don't it's just something weird to me about prosecuting people for drawing things? No matter what you draw.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Dude, but if you had that up in your house and I came over to enjoy Topps and watch the office or whatever gay shit we're going to do together. Like when I see that on your wall, I'm not going to be like, you're going to be. I'm going to be like, Kyle, level with me, buddy. What the fuck's up here? What are we doing, champ? How can I help? How can I help?
Starting point is 00:19:49 I thought I took that down. I thought they'd be able to draw whatever they want. I thought I'd put that with the rest of them here. This is the exact same way I feel like this is the Nazi memorabilia conversation again, where, like, if I go to Kyle's house and he has Nazi flags and memorabilia and like historical artifacts and it's all Nazi stuff, I'm going to be like, okay, he could just be a history buff, but he could have like mixed in like a Soviet bayonet or like an allied helmet or something. Clearly he's in it for the Nazi thing. Like
Starting point is 00:20:24 I go to Kyle's house and he doesn't have a litany of art everywhere. He just has one picture of like a sexualized child. Somebody needs to do a study because I'm curious about this is like, I'll say hand drawn or animated or not real CP, right? If you tell me that not real CP is like giving someone with a sugar addiction,
Starting point is 00:20:45 stevia, and allowing them to get that outlet without anybody being harmed, then I feel one way about it. If you're telling me that this is like giving someone with a sugar addiction sugar and surrounding them with that and never letting them remove themselves from that and sort of break the habit, then I feel a different way about it. Like is this animated victim list stuff propagating this awful kink or? I have no data.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I don't care if it propagates it. I don't care if there was data that made it, that proved that hand drawn stuff created predators. Like I would still say, you can't take my crayons away from me and put me in jail for something I scribbled on a piece of paper. It's like I mean, come on. That to me is something about that ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:21:33 But they do do that in some places for sure. I just read a thing recently about a guy going to prison for animated, you know, I see my landed on a solid opinion. I hear what you're saying, Woody, but I have no data whatsoever. My like hunch though, just looking at it, is that giving those people that type of content is like when, is like a 15 year old killing rats
Starting point is 00:22:01 and cats and dogs and eventually becoming a full blown murderer. It adds fuel to the fire. It doesn't give them a healthy outlet. It's like stimulating that maladaptive trigger in the first place and then it's exacerbating. And then suddenly before you know it, this creepy picture I'm buying from this deviant online isn't doing it. Now he's going to go out there and he's going to kill somebody. There's something about normalizing that kind of thought process and stuff that they can lead him to the next level. I get it. I get it I mean you've been watching big booty Latinos. You're on episode 37, but you haven't fucked one yet I is all I'm saying, you know like like they get I just think that you should be to draw whatever you want
Starting point is 00:22:39 Should prosecute for somebody for drawing something and shouldn't prosecute someone for watching something that someone else drew. I just don't care what it does to people. I don't care what anything says. It's just that I agree that I'm on the same side of the I'm also a free speech absolutist, and so I'm not saying that you should throw these creeps in prison for drawing creepy things, but if it's it's hanging in your house, I'm not going to be friends with you. I'm not going to. I wouldn't hire you either, to be fair.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Like if you had some weird shit behind him, like when we'd have we ever like pregame meetings and we started noticing like Zach had lots of lolly stuff behind him and be like, whoa, Zach, you draw those yourself, buddy. Oh, we're going to mix this. Yeah. It's like if we were about to start the show one week and you had that behind you, I'd be like, Kyle, take that shit down. The fuck is wrong with you? And you're like, no, it's art.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I'm an artiste. I'm cultured. I'm a creative. It's like, why is it all sticky? It's a little messed up. I certainly wouldn't want that, but I'm glad Mr. Beast came out mostly looking at- There were accusations of him not paying
Starting point is 00:23:41 for the eye surgeries. And then this is just a great example of once all the facts come out, you look at it through a different lens. So here's what he did. He made a video saying, I cured 1000 people's vision. Okay, truth is he cured 1800 people's vision. Also through some mistake,
Starting point is 00:24:02 like he didn't pay for 20 of the surgeries or he paid someone who was supposed to pay someone else for 20 of the surgeries. And when he heard that he stiffed them, he calls his own people, says, Is it true that we didn't pay them? They look into it. 20 of the surgeries weren't paid for, not through his fault, but because like the guy he paid didn't send it forward. So he double paid for those 20 and made it right. This is not an evil person, right. But they spread it like, he didn't pay for all 1000. And he's like, it doesn't make sense. Once you know all the facts, like there were 800 I didn't even talk about. And they're like, Oh, people say that I do this just for content. And I'm sure that's like a little bit true, but he's like, we had way more patience than we needed footage from.
Starting point is 00:24:50 If somebody didn't want to be in the video, they absolutely had that choice. I don't know how many people in the video, but I'm gonna make up like, it could have been more than like 30 people who had any substantial amount of camera time. And he did a thousand. Like anyone was free not to participate in the video. He didn't
Starting point is 00:25:06 need all that. Said he did a thousand, eighteen hundred. He didn't need all eighteen hundred of them. So once you know the facts, Mr. Beast comes out looking better and better. That was a takeaway from the whole thing. What's the number one criticism you're getting? Just the softball thing, Caleb? It's it's it's that I'm a terrible interviewer that I was so it was a softball that I spent too much time trying to relate myself to him.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I agree with everything he said as well, apparently, which is I think that, you know, the way that I like I whenever I talk to people, I say yes or yeah, OK, that makes sense. You know, that doesn't mean I agree with people, I say yes or yeah, okay, that makes sense. That doesn't mean I agree with you 110% and my brain, what you just said is now the reality of my brain.
Starting point is 00:25:51 It's just an acknowledgement of communication. It's like my um, in a sense. But that's a big criticism just around my ability to interview people, which once again, I think is very fair. I am good at funny interviews or like more personal things. I'm not, I'm not an investigative journalist. Um, and I will never pretend to be ever. I would love to, uh, uh, you know, do some more serious things and talk about some more serious topics, but I'm not going to be the guy who's going to get the scoop. It's just
Starting point is 00:26:22 not me. I'm not good at that. That's like, that's coffee. Have you watched it? That is a good piece of feedback, I think. Like if your version of active listening is like back checking along the way when it's not meant to be that, it's a small thing, but it's a growth opportunity. Yeah, that's what I was saying is,
Starting point is 00:26:39 a lot of the feedback and the criticism, most of it, there are there are nuggets of truth. And then some of it is like you are bought and paid for by Mr. Beast, but that one doesn't really make sense because, hey, I'm not. I've made more video. I've made more money off of shitting on Mr. Beast than I did from from the fucking investment that they like. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. It just doesn't. Good.
Starting point is 00:27:04 When Mr. B shows up, what's his entourage like? Like how many people? Oh, wow. Mr. Beast. He rolls. If Mr. B is a little like a fucking he's so OK. Calls me. This is the whole story.
Starting point is 00:27:17 This is the story of the day. OK, this is the story of the day, because this is very important for this. This is how Mr. B rolls. He called me in the morning, probably 11 o'clock, maybe noon. He says, I think I want to come on your channel and do an interview. And then I was like, sounds good, man.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Sounds that's great. That's great. That's obviously for me, that's awesome. Thank you. And and he's like asking his PA and is talking to that. Can we rearrange this? Can we like and he's talking to his guy rearranging shit for five to 10 minutes. And I'm just like, all right, what time you come?
Starting point is 00:27:49 Let's get it all figured out. First it was four. And then at around two, it became eight. He was coming at eight. Coming at eight o'clock, he's in Greenville, North Carolina. I'm in central Texas in the middle of nowhere with no big cities around. So how was he going to get there in a short amount of time, a reasonable amount of time?
Starting point is 00:28:08 He's going to fly a private jet to the nearest airport, and then he's going to drive from there to my house. That is exactly what he did. He shows up at eight o'clock. By the way, I released a very long video that I'm actually very proud of. And I announced a game and a game development studio that I've been working on and a part of at three o'clock that day. And that was obviously substantially more important to me
Starting point is 00:28:32 because there's like people I'm talking to you were releasing this game. And like, it's just a massive, very important thing for me. And the priority of that, just in general, compared to YouTube content, especially drama, is like night and day. Very easy to determine my party. You wouldn't intentionally structure your content this way because it would dilute the release of what you just did. especially drama is like night and day. Very easy to determine my parts. You wouldn't intentionally structure your content this way because it would dilute the release of what you just did.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Yeah, yeah, so that's very important for me. And then I had to clean my house and then I had to set up my cameras and then Mr. B showed up. So I had like probably about two hours in total to think. To think, I'm cleaning, doing shit, thinking, and I'm like excited. This is going to be cool.
Starting point is 00:29:08 A little bit nervous. You're cleaning up. Oh my goodness. Mr. Beast is coming up. Oh my goodness. I must clean my hands. I like to picture that like off camera, Mr. Beast is like benevolent in like a shitty way, like throwing socks full of quarters
Starting point is 00:29:25 at homeless people from the limo of his limo, firing wads of cash through a t-shirt gun at like the chest of homeless people. Yeah, he arrived at eight, he arrived at eight or 745 or something like that called me and was like, where the fuck am I? And then he showed up 15 minutes later. So he flew into an airport that was 15 minutes away. I didn't know there was an airport 15 minutes away for one. And then shows up and walks in, emerges out of the darkness.
Starting point is 00:29:54 He's got three guys with him. I do not remember their names. I remember I know one of the names. I don't know any of their names. I don't remember any of their names. What PA is. And they were very regular dudes. I don't know any of their names. I don't remember any of their names. PA, and they were very regular dudes. This was, these are regular, just super regular people.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I thought it was going to be, you know, the most crazy thing was that he had a black SUV with a driver that sat out in it the whole time, which was so balling. That's amazing. Is that what he used? That's sick. A black SUV. I know, I don't know where this stuff came from. I thought that was really cool. Well, he had a car service meeting with the airport.
Starting point is 00:30:36 That's true, you're right. He took a car service and nowhere. You're right, Kyle. Yeah, when you don't care if something costs eight times what it normally does, then it will just show up where you want it I mean, it's true. It's pretty cool. It's cool. It was cool when you think about it like that logically It's gay
Starting point is 00:30:54 Was it like a Ford or a Chevy? I've ever been to People don't know this you can just fly into an airport and they'll give you a car. You can do whatever the fuck you want with it. I think the idea is you've got your jet or even your Cessna worth 60 grand there. They give you this three thousand dollar car. It's no big deal. I think it's funny because I show up on a used paramotor and like ski clothing because it's cold up there.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Hold up there. Yeah. And I land, I leave my jacket at the airport and I drive off in their car and it's like, wait a minute, this thing's worth more than your shitty backpack. But, uh, that's, I suppose my assumption, but I guess. Dude, Mr. Beast like a hundred percent serious. So he was coming to my house to interview him, which could be one of the most damaging things he could do to his career. He's come to my house and be like, today I'm
Starting point is 00:31:51 going to ask you many questions. For an hour. Like if he pulled up in like a Hyundai accent, I'd be like, like some Indian guy dropped him off. Like a fuck this guy. That big SUV sitting out there feeling like he's a baller. It was weird. You know what? I'm sorry for him. So there are these lies spread out, Mr. Beast. And then he would have proof that refuted the lies. Like, look, here's some video that counters the story that is a dog pack. I don't know these people that counters the story that is it dog pack? I don't know these people.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah. That counters the story that like dog pack was lying about him. Cool. And he'd show it to other YouTubers and they'd be like, yeah, but the thing is you're toxic right now. And if I support you, it could hurt my own brand. So you're on your own.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And I was like, oh, that sucks. He can't find a friend right now. And I felt bad for him. We here on PGA were always on his corner. Why don't you come over here, Mr. Beast? We're friendly. We're nice. We're clean. We're we're good optics.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I won't even all you soft days when you're here. I want to ask you, like when he showed up, though, because I would have thought, look, if I'm Mr. Beast, I'm going to have one security guy with me in case somebody scoops me up, starts pulling my fingernails off, wanting my crypto fucking keys. Right? Like, like, like, I'm gonna tell you right now, I'll take it some pliers. You get two or three million out of Mr. Beast in like 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Right? Like we just, you know? So there could, these guys could have been a form of security, but they were wearing t shirts and like fucking fucking I don't remember Honestly, it was it's such a blur that day was way too long. That was like an 18-hour day. It was fucking crazy Like taking him down Dude, one of the first jokes I wanted to make which I didn't I refrained from because people would have thought I was a fucking Psychopath if I were done this now given the the response is I was gonna go
Starting point is 00:33:43 I was gonna show my appendix care and be like, this is for my safety. That's why I begin the interview. That would have been a bad idea. No, no, don't listen to that. That would have been funny. On his left would have killed you in a split. I know it is a fucking nerd. Yeah, they didn't seem they seemed like just guys.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Like I didn't know if they were just in town and he just picked him up. It was really odd. They did a little bit, but like not. They were just these. No, they just looked like normal people. One of them is from Dawson's video. I can't remember his fucking name and I feel like a dick because I've. Yeah. Is Dawson dog pack?
Starting point is 00:34:22 Dawson is dog pack. Yeah. OK. OK. I did see a couple of clips from dog pack or like reposted clips. It was really really just people ripping on him for being inaccurate. That guy was going hard in the paint with accusations. Oh, yeah. Just seemingly frivolous now where it's like he he not only hired pedophiles, he liked it. And it's like, OK, well, how do you, how do you know?
Starting point is 00:34:47 So he called Mr. Beast the Antichrist and tried to put out some like proof that this guy was actually a satanic force, like supernatural. And then he removed that part of the video because it wasn't that credible. And people were like, OK, OK, so that part's not true, but all the other parts are true. Like, I can see why Mr. Beast is scratching his head. But my gosh, when someone does well enough, there are a lot of people who want to shit on it. Yeah, I've been, this is related. Don't think I'm taking this for a turn here. I'm playing
Starting point is 00:35:19 Fallout this week and I'm modding it. Fallout, of course, is several hundred years after an apocalypse. There's a mod so you can replace the food items with a moldy lunchie. You can. Oh, God. Two hundred years after the apocalypse, you can find an old moldy lunchie. Dude, I saw someone posting pictures of all the moldy lunchlies and then just like quote, posting it, quote tweeting it being like, someone just realized why preservatives are in Lunchables because a big point of Lunchly was like, no preservatives. And it's like, did you probably, did you shelf test this?
Starting point is 00:35:55 What were the conditions that made it moldy? Was it expired? Did they open it and then leave it on the shelf? In regard to like, dude, in regard to like consumer package goods like that, like they're required to do either true time or artificial time shelf testing where you have to put it in either a special pressurized whatever science container that makes it seem like it's eight months instead of being six weeks or you have to actually send it out for six, eight, 12 weeks, and then at the end, present that to the FDA. I like that when Taylor has relevant industry experience.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah, I know, I've dealt with companies where they're like, we have to do product testing here, and then, but it needs to have a 12 month shelf life. And so it's gonna take us two and a half months to test that using this chamber at this like third party company. And I never asked because I didn't want to seem like an idiot in those meetings, but I always wanted to be like, what, what's happening in this chamber?
Starting point is 00:36:51 That's, that's, that's accelerating the time, but that's a good way for everyone in the meeting to be like, this guy's a retarded. You think it's just warm, Caleb, do you know about this? I know you make, yeah. Yeah. Accelerated shelf life testing. Yeah. You can, you can send products in to get to go through accelerated shelf life testing and they they fluctuate the humidity and temperature and sometimes even the pressure at least for confectionary goods. I know USDA
Starting point is 00:37:16 approved goods like the refrigerated cheeses and lunch bowls lunch that kind of shit. Those are more stringent obviously, but interesting. This isn't like Lolly, everyone knows about me. What's confectionary exactly? Like is a gummy worm a confectionary? Yeah, sugar-based food products. Okay, okay. Yeah, candies.
Starting point is 00:37:38 So for food, they're just upping and downing humidity and temperature. I didn't know that. For confectionary, yes. Yeah, yeah, they're just changing the temperature downing humidity and temperature? For confectionary, yes. They're just changing the temperature and the conditions in which something would be potentially stored in. It's interesting though because there is a lot of variables that control that stuff. I like to give the benefit of the doubt for companies that have a lot of employees and stuff. But at the same time, you know, Mr. Beast is he's he's Mr. Beast, right? Like
Starting point is 00:38:10 he can he can handle some haters. If anybody can handle some haters, it's definitely him for sure. Especially with this lunchly stuff. I'm not saying that he's incapable of it, but I'm saying that for people who've never had haters, they would think to themselves that if they had X million dollars, that they wouldn't be bothered by it at all. Oh, I'd be laying by my pool while everybody hates me. You probably would. You probably would be by humans just aren't designed. Like I was watching a live streamer last night and it's 1700 people watching all of them with some criticism about the way he's playing. He's one of the world's greatest Elden Ring players and it's just getting at him, getting at
Starting point is 00:38:50 him, getting at him. You know, like why didn't you win this tournament? You don't know anything about this. You're telling me he's wrong. And I'm like, man, people just aren't designed to have 1700 people in unison saying you're not very smart. You're not very good You're not that like if you went to school in high school and someone said you look bad that day it might sit with you Yeah having 1700 people in unison all say that you're bad at your job that you're you're this you're that it it can sink in more than you'd guess and I'm doing too much about making about me.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I used to sink into me super hard, still sinks in too much, but not like it used to. And I'm just, Mr. Beast, what is he, 24? Does that sound right? It's something like that, yeah. My goodness, good for him, Beast 24. What are like, I remember, I feel the same way as with like the hate comments
Starting point is 00:39:44 where like, I've been doing this long enough now that most of them it's just like whatever, who cares? Doesn't matter. Like you always remind yourself like more people liked that like in regard to like a bit on this show. I just have to be like more people like that bit than dislike. There's just a loud person. It was maybe like a few months ago, like one specific person like tweeted at me and he was like your Trump impression fucking sucks and like that more than any comment of like the past half decade like literally like eight hours later I'm like that guy doesn't know what he's fucking talking about. He totally got me. Dude a guy me. So I have an email account that I never read, right? It must have 28, 38,000 unread emails.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I don't know. And it gets an email every time someone leaves a comment on Podbean. And this is like four weeks ago. I don't know why I looked at that account. Maybe it was like a verification number that was sent to it or something. And the comment was, oh my God, I hate Woody so much. And I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Happy Saturday morning to you. I didn't do anything. Genuinely, this is my best effort. Everything you do. You should reply back, anything specific or? Nah, fuck you. This is my best effort. You should reply back. Anything specific or? No, fuck you. My whole essence. I don't know what I did. Smells like gum.
Starting point is 00:41:13 That is like almost like get a kick out of it sometimes though, because like you'll read so like you'll see hate comments and it's like water off a duck's back. But every once in a while it's like, like, hey, your African guy impression sucks. It used to be better. And it's like, like I'm actually like my, my nostrils flare where I'm like this fucking, this guy doesn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I can't decide when it's worse if they're right or they're wrong, right? If they're mad at me for something that I never even said or did, or is like not even remotely true. They, maybe they believe something someone else said. Sometimes that like, oh, well, this guy doesn't even know what he's talking about. It's easy to disregard.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And other times it's like, people think that? And you can't win. Yeah. But. Yeah. Like I would, a hundred times out of a hundred, I would rather people tweet those fat pictures of me with my eyes Photoshopped apart. Like, as opposed to that one guy's guy.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And now if I saw another one like today that wouldn't get me like that, it's just, I don't know what the mood was. It's like, at the time I saw that, when he was hitting me over the Trump impression, I was like, fuck. And then you're in your own head where you're like, maybe it is bad. He's probably right. He's probably right. And you're just making, you've just, you're just a fool. He's probably right. He's probably right. You're just a fool.
Starting point is 00:42:27 It's annoying. I take some solace when real celebrity, I see John Cena talk about his haters. People go up to him and go like this and such in a way that- I thought that was a fan thing. It is, but people do it differently. Some people might do it to mock how dumb he is or how silly his whole career is and and You know every so often people do that to him and he has to like
Starting point is 00:42:53 Suck it up and keep walking and it famously has that guy that there was a famous incident where a guy was on scene and a store And he's just like I'm gonna yell that I'm like John Cena. Whoa Like John Cena is like trying to buy like a croissant or something. I've seen that. You've seen like a gray suit. And I think the guy's like, no, I'm not going to give you because of how you've approached me. This is absurd. Exactly. But it's just like the guy was making his day hell for no reason. Just being like, you know know if I saw John Cena somewhere
Starting point is 00:43:26 I would just look at John Cena and that would be it but but he's kind of stalking John Cena with his camera out Like John Cena Holy shit, I would ask John you I would ask John Cena what happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989 He's an asset of the Chinese Communist Party. Do you guys know that I did know that his man Have you seen that video of him where like, oh yeah, he's like, Oh no, she's in the bay. Like he's like on camera doing that apologizing because I guess he like pissed off to the Chinese for some shit.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah. Yeah. I was going to joke that your Chinese was terrible, but I was like, what if it sinks in? I don't want that. Self-worth is wrapped up in his imaginary Chinese. More integral than you would know. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, I, I, I wouldn't do that to John Cena. I wouldn't bully him cause he's big and scary.
Starting point is 00:44:25 What would you do if you saw John Cena? I'd jump on his shoulders. I'd probably, I don't know, I'd probably just keep walking and be like neat. Yeah, I wouldn't bother him at all. I'd like walk by him so that I could see how tall he was in real life so that then I could go home and I could Google it and see if he was doing
Starting point is 00:44:43 like Hollywood height or. Yeah, I guess you two two are like identical that would be my guess that's funny and there is no way isn't it like I thought he was like purportedly like I didn't think so I thought he was like six feet tall okay that's that's how I imagine John Cena maybe he's well a lot of us that are six feet tall have a bad rap because there's a lot of 510 and 511 liars out there. And so when you get an honest to God, six foot person saying that, you know, like I think six foot stolen valor is more important than any sort of military stolen valor. The internet says he's six one. So I don't know how to translate that into their real life.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. Yeah. We should fight Shuncey now. Yeah. You know who doesn't have Hollywood inches. Fucking Harley. He's every bit of his of his height. Yeah, the biggest Jew in the Western Hemisphere easily. Like I don't think there's a bigger one. Name one bigger Jew.
Starting point is 00:45:38 How big is the Jew hunter? From? Oh, he wasn't. He wasn't a Jew. Oh, hey, well, then none of this is working out The bear Jew but that guy yeah, yeah small guy that's It was supposed to be Adam Sandler Really? Not to use him it was written for Adam Sandler, but it went to Eli Roth
Starting point is 00:46:00 I would have there's a AI where they make it Adam Sandler, hysterical. Cause that, you know, there's that really- Oh, you've been capturing the tools. They do that, they do that. They do his googly goo voice. Like there's this part where they really build the tension because the Beardy's coming down that dark tunnel and he's like knocking the bat against the wall
Starting point is 00:46:22 and the music's like, dun, done, done or whatever. But instead you hear Adam Sandler in there. Go, go, go, go, go. I am I have become an Adam Sandler fan in the last few years. His movies are better than people gave him credit for. And his acting range is far wider than I think is generally acknowledged. And I guess I like it more than I think is generally acknowledged. And I'm like, yes, I like it more than I think a lot of people do.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I don't think I ever went through a big Adam Sandler dislike phase. Like he, Waterboy has built up so much goodwill with me. Waterboy. I think he can kind of do anything. I love that movie. Waterboy, like, I would like gut laugh as a young kid. She still makes boobies.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I like them too. a young. Yeah. I like them too. Seeing like, like every time, like when you're 10 watching that and, and Rob Schneider comes up on the screen with his lazy eye and everything in 99 or wait, did it come out in 99? That's my best estimate. Yes. I feel like until I was like 10. So I was 10 in 2001. Well done in 98. So, okay. Yeah. how I was like 10. So I was 10 in 2001. Well, 98. So, okay Yeah, but it was like like I just fucked up
Starting point is 00:47:29 I like screaming in the mob like that that killed me as a kid water boy is great Not to take anything away from it. But for me 51st States is my favorite Adam Sandler movie true story, you know, I doubt it More has a memory I doubt it. No it's not. Drew Barrymore has a memory. Well there's a real couple where one of them has that memory thing and so every day you have to tell your partner like catch them up. Okay we're married.
Starting point is 00:47:54 What would you put in that video? I'd be like your name is Susan. You love giving head. You have a dainty appetite and it's normal for you to go all day without eating. You like to watch me eat food. And you like to watch nothing but the NHL. You work very hard and you're late for work. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Who's the inspector? You're mentally sad. Your hobbies include yard maintenance and doing the dishes. I don't like Drew Barrymore and I don't like rom-coms in general, so I don't like that one. I like all of his serious shit though. I love Punch, Drug, Love. I like that Spider movie he made for Netflix recently where he's the...
Starting point is 00:48:35 Oh, the space spider? ...the crazed... He's an astronaut losing his mind and he's talking to a space spider or something. That was creepy and interesting. The Uncut Gems movie he made where that was really good. Yeah. So he's a great actor. He's making. He like pumps out like six comedy movies, makes 150 million, makes sure all of his
Starting point is 00:48:57 boys get like five million apiece and then he'll make like an Oscar worthy performance every five or six years and just wear, he dresses like absolute shit too. Zach, if you could find a photo of examples of Adam Sandler dressing like shit, it's hysterical. Zach, do one of Adam Sandler playing basketball because Shaquille O'Neal has given this guy his flowers. Adam Sandler likes basketball. He made a movie about it called Hustle that I really enjoyed.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And he's not a great shooter or ball handler, but he's kind of a passer distributor and like floor general. And Shaq was like, you go to watch the guys who show up looking like this. If his drip is that bad, his game is that good. This is what he dresses like on the court too. This is pretty accurate.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I was hoping for an actual basketball one, but yeah, all wildly oversized clothes. You know why he dresses like on the court, too. This is pretty accurate. I was hoping for an actual basketball one. But yeah, all wildly oversized clothes. And I dress like this. Yeah, just nice and comfy. You know, I claims to have dressed like this his whole life. He said when he was younger, he was secretly jacked. When he was doing a lot of his comedies, he was huge. He's like, so I had to hide that because nobody likes the Jack funny guy.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Now I'm older, so I'm hiding my belly. He does not dress like he planned on playing basketball that day. He's like dressed like he knew he was going to go swimming that day, but he also had to go to dinner later. Like he just did not have a drink with an umbrella in his hand? I, that's me. Big shout out to Adam Sandler,
Starting point is 00:50:30 friend of the show. Friend of the show. Yeah, welcome to come on. Like anytime. Friend of the show, Adam. Big friend of the show. Like I texted him sometimes. We like the juice here.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Mm-hmm. Well, the funny ones. All of them. But especially the funny ones. Well, we draw a line. Some funny ones. All of them. But especially the funny. Well, we draw a line. Some of us like all. You like even you like even Epstein. He wasn't funny.
Starting point is 00:50:53 He didn't make he didn't make anything like Seinfeld. He just molested kids on an island. Was hilarious, I'm told. You ever see that guy smile? It light up a room. He's got those teeth with like only like a sub basement. He doesn't have a full like first floor of teeth. He's just got those little half teeth that make it look like a human.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I don't understand what that means. Well, like some people have like a whole second story to their mouths when they smile and you're like, whoa, put that shit away. Like someone who's gummy. Yeah. Yeah. I always felt bad that people look at them as fun. Mannings have a second story to their heads. Their whole skull has a second story. They do.
Starting point is 00:51:28 That is a fucking ugly family. Isn't that like four generations of inbreeding? Yeah. Of QBs. Yeah, they just bring in a big woman. He has such a gummy smile that it's hard to find a picture of him smiling. Yeah, it's disgusting. Are we talking about Epstein right now?
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah. Yeah. He has a really bad gummy smile. It, disgusting. Are we talking about Epstein right now? Yeah. Yeah. He has a really bad gummy smile. It was a favorite. But that's actually not the worst thing about him. Have you heard? Have you heard? You're not going to believe this.
Starting point is 00:51:53 What was that? Have you heard like more bad things about him? I mean, the smile. Finance here, Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, finance here, Jeffrey Epstein. Dude, he was just throwing parties on an island with a weird temple. This guy's dope as fuck. He shows up in a private jet.
Starting point is 00:52:10 He's got a black Cadillac Escalade and two weird guys with him. Do you wish that you should buy a little St. James? He doesn't show the guns as well as the pictures I was seeing. Yeah, they're quite bad. You know something you might not know about Ghislaine Maxwell on the left? Yeah. She has big old titties. Huge, huge old titties. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Big fan of hers. You ever seen that picture of her in a bikini right next to like the lady who owns the Washington or the some newspaper? Because that's Pezos but... Whatever that news like blonde lady who owns a newspaper and then right next to her is gillian maxwell And she's got hangers heavy hangers. Yeah big ones. Yeah big shout out to gillian maxwell friend of the show Right now, you know, I say freiges lane hashtag freiges lane Where she locked up at?
Starting point is 00:53:01 I don't think they got her in that diddy lock up, but they got her in like the lady equivalent. I'm sure where she locked up at. I don't think they got her in that Diddy lockup, but they got her in like the lady equivalent, I'm sure. That's probably for the best. Yeah, I know Diddy's trying to get out again. He keeps complaining about the conditions within his confinement. Apparently he's been trying to make phone calls
Starting point is 00:53:15 and talk to bribe and threaten potential victims. Caleb, would you interview Diddy? Yeah, and I'd play hardball with him. You play hardball. It'd be so funny if you only asked like music questions. Oh, yeah. I don't even know anything about Diddy at all other than he's a fucking weirdo. He is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Well, it seems he was hosting some parties where a lot of a lot of not so good characters were attending and doing some some sinister shit, but we don't know yet. Well, we probably will never know any more about that than we're going to find out about the Epstein stuff. Just locked in the dark. I mean, he's still alive, though, like he's going to have to make a deal at some point or try to make a deal at some point. I'm glad they're not letting him out because I really think he would flee.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I was shocked he didn't flee to begin with. You know, I thought it was. What name do you think is going to get roped into Epstein stuff? Let's speculate wildly. Did he? JLo? Well, I want JLo because JLo is the thing with the nightclub shooting. And also, I want it to be women.
Starting point is 00:54:17 There's just something in me that I want it to be women. It's always men. It's always my team taking these Ls. It'd be great. I'd love the view to have to be women. You know, it's always men. It's always my team taking these L's. It'd be great. I'd love the view to have to be like and P didi co-defendant Jennifer Lopez. She was on the show last fall. Wasn't she? Anyway, I love for that to happen to them and to everybody.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I guess JLo is who I would want. That's why if I had a Jeannie and I had one wish I would be like. Okay, so that's your one. We had a little, we did a little death pool on this or a molestation pool or something. Caleb, who's, I don't want to poison your opinion. Who do you think is a celebrity most likely? I'm asking the question in a long circuitous way because I see you're chewing. long, circuitous way, because I see you're chewing. Who do you think is most likely to be implicated as a celebrity? In regard to Diddy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yes. Mr. Beast. Just kidding. Maybe, I don't know, I think JLo probably is most likely. She's been, there's a lot of talk about that. And if I had to not say JLo, I don't know maybe like I'm not sure maybe like they could take maybe Diddy would use evidence or something to take down like another big name like Jay-Z or something like that.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Jay-Z was my go to. Yeah. Mine's Russell Brand. I'm convinced Russell Brand, sex addict, already fucking children. Why? That's my reach pick. I'm not as confident in Russell Brand as Jay-Z, but like my reach pick, I agree, would also be Russell Brand because that guy has like done this weird, clearly, you know, you can't know into someone's heart or whatever, but seemingly insincere, rapid branding decision to become like a Christian to try and like, Garner approval.
Starting point is 00:56:11 The Russell Brand accuser was 16 and they're in the UK, right? So it's like, I didn't say it was legal. I said she was a child. Well, and this, this isn't about anything else. This is only Epstein stuff. But she wasn't a child in the UK. Which is she, are they 16 years children in the UK? I'm not even kidding. Are they?
Starting point is 00:56:28 I think they're legal to bang. I think. Their 16 is our 18. Can't they drink at 16 over there as well? I think I've heard that before, yeah. Yeah, I think all of their stuff is at 16. Like driving, drinking, fucking. In England a child is defined as anyone who has not yet reached their 18th birthday
Starting point is 00:56:47 I don't know what part of the UK he did his diddling in Woody So I'll get back to you hoping that there's some town that I'm hoping that maybe he was in Wales or North, Birmingham Shire In raping from Shire. I love the raping ham bandits, the soccer team, you know, go rape as we say. His whole, uh, shtick of, like you said, becoming very religious and like immediate, like full bore. He's like, not only do I believe in Lord?
Starting point is 00:57:25 I've baptized folks now. Yeah watch he's like baptizing people in rivers and stuff It's like dude you were diddling yet last week. You can't How do you even do that you you get baptized and within a week you're fucking doling them out He's still doing within a week, you're fucking doling them out. I don't know about that. That's what John the Baptist did. That's what John- That's a public persona. That's what John the Baptist did. That's true. He's still doing sex parties and drugs. Well, John the Baptist is better than fucking Russell Brand. Oh, oh, who's to say?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Who's to say? I mean, one of them did lead Christ Church. It was a long time ago. One of them led Christ Church. The other made some real knee-slapper comedies. I don't know. I think Jesus said that never was a man born of a woman who was as just as John the Baptist.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And I would not apply that attribution to Russell Brand. Did Jesus say that? I believe so. Something to that effect. Yeah. That's why Jesus let John the Baptist baptize him as like a show of humility. Citation needed. Oh dude, if we're doing Bible citations, all day, I could find it in two seconds. Source of fear. You're gonna get your Bible knowledge.
Starting point is 00:58:28 First Timothy seven. Yeah, Russell Brand got weird. I hope that something comes out. I hope that he doesn't mysteriously pass away in there. But I like celebrity dirt, did he? Yeah, I like celebrity dirt. And this is the dirtiest of the dirt. This is the A-list weird sex parties.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And it'd be great if something came out of this and we found out. Yeah, that'd be pretty sick. What's your next foray in the serious interview business or was this a one-off for you? I mean, I've interviewed, I've interviewed a couple people before the only two serious people I've interviewed are Andrew Tate and Mr. Beast. Oh, I didn't know you interviewed him, Kate. Yeah, long ago before, before he was arrested for human trafficking and
Starting point is 00:59:20 all that other stuff. Yeah. This was like in July of 2022 Could you tell so Andrew Tate has this like I don't know. I'm an alpha male. I should get all these Special treatments and rule sets because I'm so wonderful special people are treated special with cetera Did you think that was for show or that's who he is to his core? I think Lord he's a very Do you know the Alex Jones defense and that it's like he's entertainment and everything he says is for, I think it's like that kind of deal where he's a character
Starting point is 00:59:54 and maybe he does embody that character in his day to day life because he can, because he's a rich, super rich guy. But to me, it all seemed like, oh, he's going to say this. And then he would say that. And it's like, of course he's going to say that he's Andrew Tate. And it just seems too much like fencing and not enough like this guy's just being himself and just hanging out. Like he's too, he's pressing buttons too much. Like he's too well. I saw an interview with him once, not even an interview,
Starting point is 01:00:22 but just a quick little like short clip and and they asked him a silly question that was meant to get a Andrew Tate answer and it was like something like what would you do if you had daughters and Or like and he's like I would drown them and he's like really and he's like come on I like that. He just slipped the mask off. Yeah, he really dropped. Come on, what the fuck do you think, man? Yeah. Yeah, I got that vibe. It was interesting. He definitely is like a, you know, giant ego, crazy fucking kickboxer,
Starting point is 01:00:57 fighting mindset, just on a different planet. Yeah, some of what he says is like about some of the accomplishments he's proud of are true. The dude's a world class kickboxer, right? Is he the best to have ever walked the earth? No, but but none of us could beat him up. And is he wealthy? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:19 No, I suspect he might have claimed higher levels of wealth than he really had at one point in his trajectory. But at this point, I think a lot of his wealth is true. So Yeah, he's a lot of trouble these days though, right? Like he's in that he's it. Yeah legal trouble in Romania or whatever Yeah, and a lot of I mean he just like kind of just scams people now Like this just kind of his thing now is to just take whatever the easiest most whatever the route to manipulate people the easiest. I mean the whole Hustlers University thing, gigantic scam, all the crypto stuff, a lot of that shit's just meme coin nonsense. He's just doing a lot of like really, I mean he's hated obviously by the whole world.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Well, you know, by the civilized world. Right, by 90% for the only needs 10. Yeah, he needs that 10, and it just seems like he's kind of leaning into being a scamming piece of shit now, which is less funny, for sure. And also all the fucking crazy sex trafficking stuff. Willie Mac show has a great video going into that.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Did you do a deep dive into the Hustlers University at all and like the learning learning the materials and such So that was right before all that stuff became super big I have not I've seen a bunch of videos on it and they're fascinating we had a guy in a in our Patreon discord for 50 bucks money get to hang out with city under the month and one of those guys was in the Hustlers University and I expected him to be like, I don't know, man, it was only X, it was only a hundred dollars. And I thought maybe I'd learn, but he was just like, no, it's great.
Starting point is 01:02:51 We, we learned a lot of stuff, a lot of good material, a lot of stuff that's helped me with my self-esteem. Um, you know, I love it. I've, I've been, and he was like my multi-month member to the Hustlers University. Um, so my one and only example of someone who did that was a positive result. Interesting. Yeah. I've never known anybody to actually be a part of it. I mean, it makes sense. It's like mint. It's a very curated thing, you know? And it's been around before. He's on another level too, in terms of of especially at that time. How long ago was that? Oh a couple years a couple years. Yeah, it was like still maybe kind of cool Like he's on the edge like young young guys think he's really cool and and funny all that stuff
Starting point is 01:03:36 There was that moment where it seemed the algorithm just loved him Oh and that wasn't done. Yeah all those podcasts He done like four or five podcasts and then they got clipped up and diced done. Yeah, all those podcasts he done like four or five podcasts. And then they got clipped up and diced up. Yeah. And man, it took off. I bet the combined viewership was over a billion easily. It was crazy. The the the amount of Andrew Tate
Starting point is 01:03:58 content that was flowing my way. And I wasn't even watching. But he's saying I like some of those provocateur ish guys. I like some of the guys from the what's it called? Like the the bro truth. I think Zach's every day of it is maybe WTF pod. I was just thinking of like that whole there's a bunch of shows that sort of do like dude centric stuff, whether it's men's rights or
Starting point is 01:04:24 or dating stuff, my regains.'s rights or, or in dating stuff. Myron Gaines. Yeah, I like some of that stuff. And there was a while where I was consuming probably too much of it, but never really liked Andrew Tate. I didn't I didn't hate him. Yeah. But I reckon I feel like I always recognize this is like a cringe character. He's doing that.
Starting point is 01:04:38 That's what I thought. Yeah, I was because like I thought it was kind of funny and like, oh, he's a provocateur. It's a bit. And he's saying things to make people mad and it's not directly affecting me And then I see people in the street like young kids being like yo top G and I'm like, alright This is not a good role model This guy is doing a bit and these people think it's legit and real which it is obviously the whole sex trafficking thing You know, it does go deeper than it initially appeared. Like you said, when all those clips were going viral, that was right when I interviewed
Starting point is 01:05:10 him, was right when all that stuff was happening. I just DMed him on Twitter or I tweeted at him and he immediately sent me his phone number on WhatsApp and then Discord. And then the next day, we set that up. It was crazy. Nice. Yeah, that's smart of him. Like taking advantage of that and getting out there. He wasn't, himself he didn't have a huge footprint on YouTube, but everywhere else he went, he was super popular and he would just make things explode. Yeah, sometimes I think people don't fully understand the message he was putting out.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I don't mean to defend this rapist, but they're like, oh, he hates women. He thinks women suck for all these things. And I think in reality, he's just setting really high standards for both roles. And you shouldn't just look at one side of it. Women, yeah, you need to have low body fat, low body count, subservient, this, that, the other thing. Like this is what he wants in a girl. Guys, if you don't have six figures and a six pack, then what the fuck are you doing? Of course your girlfriend sucks. Get your act together. And, you know, guys, imagine being so broke, you only have one Bugatti, right? So I'm a loser in this guy's eyes.
Starting point is 01:06:17 You're brokey. Right? So like, he's not setting low standards for men and acting like women have all the lifting to do. He says it's a probably high standards for everybody. And, you know, saying that he meets them, why don't you? And I feel like that other side of it's not seen too often. They just blasted views on girls. Yeah, I'd rather not be a sex trafficker, though. Yeah, I got that on him. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That's something that would be legal in his country. Like when I was in Romania. Yeah, that sounds that seems like. Yeah, that's pretty good. I think that would be legal in his country, like when I'm in Romania. Yeah, that sounds that seems like the place I go to do it. Right. That's probably why he did. He lives there. I think it's before he's from Senegal. Is he not American? I thought he was American. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:06:57 I'm pretty sure he's from like Iowa or some kind of American. I've I could not tell you what his voice sounds like. I've never watched. You got a bastardized British American accent yeah the British American yeah you think I should watch a movie today Kyle you do you need to know what his voice sounds like then you're clearly not watching enough yeah but it's that like not funny red pill shit not necessarily there's some there's some stuff to be yeah it's that not funny red pill now I don't know anything what he
Starting point is 01:07:24 does but it's gay. I'm not listening. I'm not. No, what you need to listen to. Taylor, what you need to listen to is Mr. Plenty, which is the top G's number one song that he released. He's a musician now. It is like a level of bad and cringe that is so unexpected when you hear it.
Starting point is 01:07:47 They call me Mr. Plenty. Who's his like being serious? He is like, it's like Red Pill, like how to get women content, right? Yeah. Yeah. By the way, he's American. He was born in DC, but he moved to England when he was a kid
Starting point is 01:08:08 and Wikipedia doesn't say how young he was. I saw that he challenged Jake Paul to a boxing match. That'd be cool to see. He can't leave Romania. He is up on charges. That man is fighting for his legal life. They can fight in Romania. How about this? He wins and he goes free. That's a good way to do it.
Starting point is 01:08:36 That's good. That's funny. He wins and he goes free. I've got a novel idea folks. Pardon for the mayor for the party of the America party that Trump's going to throw. Hell yeah. Dude, the party for the, of the America party that Trump's going to throw. Hell yeah. Do the party for the what is that he's doing? He's like a 250. Yeah, an anniversary all across America. Wait, what? Oh, is that the American party 50 during his term? Yeah, yeah. So they want to do a big sort of party, which is I like that.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I'm totally down for that. I like that idea. Yeah, some parties, everybody gets together a little, little national pride. I hope the left doesn't embarrass themselves. Like it, please do not complain about him throwing a 250 party. It would save your complaints for something valid. Yeah. Just have fun with it.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Right now they're trying to organize, uh, that the Airbnb is in the DC area, not rent to conservatives who are coming for the inauguration That's awesome Yeah fun time how do they determine if they're conservative or not, but you give them a test Mmm, like what because nothing says sticking it to the man quite like paying exorbitant amounts of money for the shitty fucking Airbnbs You know, it's like a liberal millionaire property owner giving like skull tests to people to determine if they're too racist to rent there. What is that called?
Starting point is 01:09:56 The phrenology. They're doing phrenology and caliber measurements where it's like, I'm sorry, your forebrain's too too underdeveloped. You can't rent my condo to celebrate. I saw the border czar guy that he's hired this Homan guy. I think it's Homan. I think I think I reminded because it's like human, but with an O. But anyway, he looks like he's on the ozempic, like he's getting like mean and lean for this immigration battle he's about to undergo because every time I see him,'s thinner and I saw him at the border and him and the governor of Texas were
Starting point is 01:10:28 giving out food I think maybe to the border guard people or something like that they're serving like Thanksgiving dinner and he got up and he gave a speech and he had that thing where you get that gross white shit and the car out yeah it was bouncing but but it was doing this thing where it was moving from lip to lip. And the lips at all. Discharge. It was it was like a it was like a white lump of white goo that was moving from top lip to bottom lip up. Salad cheese. While he angrily went on and on about Mexicans.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I got Guatemalans up here now. You ain't never seen such. He like spits it out, grabs it, puts it back on his lip. He puts it in his little case and puts it away. He's got like a lot of them saved up. Do you think do you think he's on ozempic or do you think R.F.K. and his horrible voice is telling people to like eat hamburgers? I hope R.F.K. gets the whole cabinet on.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Donald, you shouldn't need that. Honestly, if you stop talking, I'll eat whatever you want. You're in the middle. Who told you you should be a politician? I wouldn't be shocked. So Trump is very concerned about like visuals. You know, he looks for people. One of the things he looks at,
Starting point is 01:11:40 are they from central casting? That's the thing that he said. So if his cabinet all becomes just a little leaner and meter and more attractive and Hollywoodish, wouldn't shock me. That would be good. Motley Crue. We should have fitter cabinets all around.
Starting point is 01:11:52 So I don't watch Fox News, but on YouTube, there's this Indian channel, Dots Not Feathers, that re-uploads like hour long segments of Fox News. And I watch those every now and then. It's funny, the last five minutes of them are first person viewpoints of an Indian man working on small engines. It's so weird.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Really? Yeah, and it doesn't make any sense because it's not like the old days when you had a VHS tape and the end of it, like the tail would be, this is digital. So why would that be so reasonable? Is he really good at it? No, he's just doing random work.
Starting point is 01:12:21 And sometimes it's not even the small engine guy. It's like a person raking leaves or something. So it's just doing random work. And sometimes it's not even the small engine guy. It's like a person raking leaves or something. So it's just a random Indian being like, sweetheart, you will not believe the grief that I have fallen into. No, no, no. I don't know. It's because of the name of the channel.
Starting point is 01:12:35 It's written in that scribbly script they use. So anyway, I've been watching Fox News a little bit and they showed Trump's cabinet thus far. And it's a lot of people, these names already, like maybe 30, 40 people at least. And I swear to God, the Fox Morning Show, which has a black guy, two white girls, and a white dude. And the girl goes, he's got such a diverse cast.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Look at this, there's men and there's women. And that's 100% of the bases There's men and there's women. Dude, that's a hundred percent of the bases hit men and women. Like I nodded along and I'm I was like, my God, what do they pay you, brother? Just sit there and take this. Did you see the Boris Epstein news? Boris Epstein? I don't know what that is. Yeah. All right. So this guy was Trump's Republican strategist and he was selling seats, selling jobs.
Starting point is 01:13:33 And they had to pay him 30 to $40,000 a month for their position. And to Trump's credit, he heard about it, he fired him. He said, anyone who does stuff like this is gonna get fired just like he did. And it wasn't a thing Trump did. So I don't mean to miss paint it, but it is a dirty guy who was selling access to Trump. He's out.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Imagine how many of those sketchy fucks just are out there. Is that the guy that went to a tick tock now, because that rings a bell, but that might not be him. I could just be lying, spreading false news, fake news. Misinformation. Yeah. Dis or misinformation. This article doesn't say anything about him having sexual issues.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Don't worry. Dis or misinformation are safe now. What's his name? It's hard for me to pronounce. I'm going to post it in there. I'm getting Boris Epstein. Where's Epstein? Do you see the how would you pronounce that? Oh, Boris Epstein. Yeah, that's Epstein. Epstein. It's H t y n. Yeah, I think you're right. Like how could you possibly say that? Yeah, I Sometimes do this I've worked I'd now I
Starting point is 01:14:52 Focus and make sure that every letter makes its word into my pronunciation because it's supposed to I used to just look at The first three had like rolled from there Wait, this was the guy working for Trump. Yes fucking Soviet Union. He lives in Moscow. Dude, Epstein makes me think Jewish, but Epstein? What fucking ethnicity is that? Is that Russian? He's probably a Russian Jew.
Starting point is 01:15:17 He was high up on his campaign and then he made it into the White House and now he's out because he got caught for being dirty. Shame, shame on his family are Russian Jews. So he just, he thought he was too good for like the Jeffrey Epstein spelling had to be unique. I don't like this guy. Not one bit. Selling loser. Yeah, he's a loser. Don't like his loser. He's a loser. So I is a loser. Oh, my God. I don't care if you can shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:15:54 You're bothering everyone. It's really you imagine having to speak to him at a party and be like, like, for one thing, like you, you do want to speak to him because it's R.A. Dude, I'd be like either swallow or spit it out. Like get it out. I can't. I just want to because I was there's a word because my camera, there's a worm in my brain and I just give them a burner phone and text
Starting point is 01:16:19 down table on a given that Federman iPad. Yeah, Jesus. Yeah. Something a speaking spell. It's really, people don't give him a enough shit for that stuff where it's like, well, in the eighties I cheated on my wife 67 times and I kept a diary of it. And then I showed it to her and she hanged herself. Now I'm kinda into fitness. That was like the two thousands. It's like. That was in like the 2000s.
Starting point is 01:16:45 It was like bro. It wasn't that long ago when his ex wife hung herself. That was in like 2011 I think. Do you look down? See, I don't look down. I want that kind of talk about fitness and like getting nasty stuff out of food and literally nothing else.
Starting point is 01:16:58 I really don't care what dudes, as long as you're not beating your wife, I don't care about dudes who have infidelities. Like that doesn't mean anything to me whatsoever. Like I killed herself out of torture. I love him. I'm like basically, okay. Like I'm in your face.
Starting point is 01:17:12 It was pretty fucked up. Yeah. I think that's ridiculous. I think, I mean, I think that's ridiculous. She killed herself because he did this. She killed herself because she wanted to kill herself. That's on her. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:17:23 The onus is on her at the end of the day. I'm just saying I really like what RFK seems to say about like we are food truck. All his food takes seem to be good. And then outside of that, I'm like, you know what I like about his food takes, the left has to try to attack them now. And it's hilarious to watch them do it. The articles will be like, what's the problem with GMOs anyway? And it's like, whoa, what do you mean? Aren't you supposed to be against them too?
Starting point is 01:17:52 I sent you all those articles and it was like a pane of four of them where they're attacking like healthy foods. You sent one, I remember a headline specifically you sent a picture of that said, why ultra processed foods aren't bad for you. Yeah. And I'm like, why would this be the point
Starting point is 01:18:08 that they want to take contention with? Why is anyone making this point? This is the worst possible position to take. Yeah. Oh, you think like having like weird emulsified paste turned into crackers and fed to us is like good? Yes. Tastes good. Tastes good.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Have you fucking tasted it? Yeah, it's good. Have you fucking taste it? I love chips. I'll eat chips all day. It's been a problem. All right, shit. All right. R.F.K. is going to fix this for us. He's going to make me not fat anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:41 R.F.K. is one of the, and actually the Doge stuff is one of the things Trump's doing that I cling to is like that I might really like. I hope he comes through. I worry we're on the opposite. I trust vaccines and he doesn't. It's concerns now he's leading the FDA. But dude, go clean up the food supply.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Our food supply is terrible. I don't think America is the second fattest country on earth, I think. Because we just have less willpower than everyone else or more money. I think it's because our food supply is not as good. I think it's because of that. It's GDP. We got more money to like blow, right? Well, it's because our food isn't as good. I don't know that more money more money. I swear, if Americans were the fittest, they just said, that's GDP too. Oh yeah, we have like fresh fruits and vegetables. Other people have to survive on Fritos. I think it's just easy, convenient access to bad food.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Yeah, convenience, right? Convenience, which probably has some kind like a patternable correlation with GDP. Yeah, I went to convenience Mexico two or three years ago and their food was awful. There was hardly any meat or any protein everywhere, you know, and I went down there with like the budget to get good food. It's just not offered. Everything is just carbs. And they're very carb heavy. But there's no excuse for us as America.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Like we're fucking America, bro. We're awesome. We have, we have like lower quality food than Europe. Fuck. How? No, no, we need to, we need to humiliate Europe again with great. Are you a, so it's, it's, it's weird. Like the, the, the topics and policies and where people get sliced along the Republican Democrat lines.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Like how do you feel about raw milk and raw cheese and stuff like that, like the non-pasteurized stuff? It's because it seems by and large that there are people on the right. Conservatives will be the ones who are like, this is the way it used to be, brah. Like pasteurization is just nuking all the nutrients. It's a, it's a conspiracy. You want that raw milk and then you'll hear about a Listeria outbreak killing a bunch of people. And it's like, It seems like it's like the most obvious thing ever where it's like, yeah, pasteurization makes it safer. And it also like kills some, I guess, microorganisms that would be good.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Like the good with the bad ones. And so that's what they're saying. Like my first experience with like being told about the raw milk thing was like totally apolitical. It was my brother just being like, bro, I bought like a quarter cow from this guy and he sells raw milk. And so I bought some of that too. This shit is delicious.
Starting point is 01:21:22 It tastes so much better than regular milk. I'm like blown away at how tasty this milk is. And I was like sick. Cause like I didn't know, like I don't know anything about it. And so I was like, Oh neat. I'll have to try it sometime. Like I believe it's taste. I think the milk you get in stores is often shit and people don't know. We have a milkman deliver our milk in these glass jars. And it is so much better than the grocery store, but it is pasteurized and homogenized?
Starting point is 01:21:50 I might have mispronounced. Homogenized, thank you. But people don't know, there are levels to milk. It gets better. Yeah, I think for sure. And as for thinking that pasteurization, that's like just being mad at refrigeration or some kind of thing that gave us a massive benefit that we unlocked along the way as humans.
Starting point is 01:22:11 We can now, not only do we have raw milk, you can also, in a stable environment, supplement all the good bacteria that you would have in raw milk as well. It's one of those things where if we're going to let people can food and can their own stuff, there's a risk to that with botulism and all, you know, you have to do it perfectly. I feel like you should definitely, the government shouldn't have anything to do with raw milk. But also I will drink pasteurized milk because I prefer my milk to be free of bacteria. I'm not so sure.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Yeah. See, I think it should be like a standard for milk. I think if you're going to sell milk, you should have to meet a standard in the marketplace that is, and I don't think raw milk meets that standard. Yeah, no. There would be mass outbreaks. If I want to go to a farmer and be like, hey,
Starting point is 01:23:00 give me a quarter cow and give me this milk, there should be nothing preventing me. Even if I'm this milk. Like there should be nothing preventing me. Even if I'm a re-smart, there should be nothing preventing me from drinking. Here's all I want, warning labels. I think you should be free to take the risk and it should say right on it, this milk may contain harmful bacteria.
Starting point is 01:23:17 And then when every so often people get sick from it, they're going into it eyes wide open. That's what I want. I don't want any restriction on your rights or over regulation, but education, yes. A hundred percent same page. No, because like the farmer is going to be doing business selling, selling poison milk that you're going to let him do business that way. Now in your scenario, you just popped over like you needed half a cup of sugar and he's like, yeah, I guess I could knock. Grav, grab a tea. Let's's let's knock this out double time and you just get a little milk out
Starting point is 01:23:45 I didn't bring a cup. Are we cool? In that scenario I'm like, yeah, that's raw milk No, nobody's gonna like slap the tea out of your hand But if you're going over there regularly and you're buying a child you think it's in my hand Go in there Woody good God I'm like a raw milk truth or where I think the people who drink it out of glass are like libs. I suck it only from the tip.
Starting point is 01:24:10 It's hot. It's hot milk. Yeah, I see what you're saying though, Kyle. Because it's like, if you're going to be selling people, it would be a self self solving problem. If it became commercialized, and there was no regulation, aside from, aside from just having a warning label, people are going to eventually see through the the hype at a certain point, like it's not like it does anything that normal milk doesn't do without some kind of supplement. So eventually, it's literally just going to be the choice of do I buy the milk that might kill me or
Starting point is 01:24:43 do I buy the milk that's not going to kill me? Yeah. But what I do want to know is how much tastier is it? Because I've never tried it. It's not like 40% tastier than regular milk. Then it's like, what are we even doing? Like it better be like five times, but I better be blown away. The pasteurization doesn't make it less tastier.
Starting point is 01:25:04 It's just the source of the milk itself. Like what Woody was saying, you can get very high quality milk that's pasteurized as well. The pasteurization, as far as I'm aware, has no effect outside of maybe like a, people are just like, this is so much better because it's like I'm closer with nature or whatever. I don't fucking know. I don't know why you changed the taste. You're just warming it up. Yeah, I'm genuinely just going by what my brother told me.
Starting point is 01:25:32 And he didn't tell me like, you should say you were the raw milk. I am the raw milk expert. You cut from a one minute conversation with my brother eight months ago. And so I just got a higher quality milk. Yeah. And that could be. Yeah. He doesn't. He didn't say anything to me like, this is saving my life. There are microbes in here that are doing this and that. He literally was like, my meat man sells milk. It tastes great.
Starting point is 01:25:55 I've had a lot of, uh, my parents bought a quarter of a Jersey cow, uh, to get the milk, the raw milk a couple of years, like 10 years ago. And this was before it was a massive trend. And my dad just likes like really natural stuff. And he's not like a fucking granola or anything weird like that, but he loved the raw milk and he never got sick from it.
Starting point is 01:26:14 And every night he'd eat like five bowls of chili. And then just, I don't know why, so much chili all the time. And then he'd just get his giant Mason jar of milk and just go, look, it's just fucking drink like a quarter of it. And then he'd be like, I'm so full. I ate too much. Is it dead ripped? Yeah, absolutely. He eats like one meal a day, but he eats like a lot in that meal. So much chili. And a quart of raw milk. In a disgusting amount of raw milk.
Starting point is 01:26:45 And he loved it. I thought it tastes like grass and fucking like barnyard. I didn't like it. Oh, so you thought it tasted worse than regular. I thought it was disgusting. Yeah, I didn't like it. I think our milk is better because it's cream adjacent. I think it's healthier and better.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Yeah. What brand is your delivery? Is it Oberweiss? I don't know if that's just in the Midwest or if it's somewhere else. I don't know. Maybe I could look at the bottle. So we used to sometimes get that delivered as a kid. Yeah. Like Oberweiss, it was this glass bottle milk. And I remember like opening, like pulling that little cap off the top where it kind of pops around that cap of the glass and being like, damn, now this is milk. And it was
Starting point is 01:27:24 great. I don't drink milk. I don't drink milk that often, but it's every time I get milk, I get whole milk. And every time I drink it, I'm like, this is great. I should get this more. And then I forget for another year. I love ice cream. Milk in so long.
Starting point is 01:27:36 I only drink cashew milk. Cashew milk. Oh, cashew milk is the best of all the nut milks. It is. Just eat cashews. Why are you talking about just eat cashews? Cashews are delicious. What are you talking about right now? Cashew milk is amazing too. That'd be like me telling you I was gonna have like an omelet and you were like just rotisserie of chicken. I pour my morning coffee I put some cashews in there and then I chew it.
Starting point is 01:28:05 You know Kyle when you're doing a podcast, sometimes there's a little bit of dead space. You fire something out. You don't think it through. You hop in your nuclear car and head on down to the store and I promise you, you'll find there's no cashews in cashew milk. It's more like cashew juice. Cashew liquid. Okay. Well now you've made a differentiation without any real distinction. Cashews and almonds. Apparently, if you squeeze them,
Starting point is 01:28:29 milk comes out. And that's what I put in my coffee. I forget which they I think they mush them up in water and as well. And like that, that water absorbs the liquid and the delicious from the cashew. And that's your cashew milk. It's creamy. Delicious. Yeah. The coffee machine like must have broke without me knowing four or five days ago and it made me coffee. It looked totally normal and you know cowboy coffee where like the grounds are in there and it's like infinitely stronger. I didn't realize I was drinking cowboy coffee and I had a giant ass glass of it.
Starting point is 01:29:06 And like I was damn near panicking. Like not knowing why I was so on edge until like I got to the end of the cup and there were still like sediment all around the bottom. And so that's like, yeah. What kind of coffee maker do you have? Is it a Keurig or something? It's like a a little
Starting point is 01:29:26 One to two cup at a time like tiny pot where I just like put the filter in It might be black and decker, I don't remember I I went for like the cheap I i'm not a coffee connoisseur I just drink it black won't add anything to it. I just so many apparatus. I I have I think I have every way you can make coffee. I've got like cold brew stuff. I've got French press stuff. I've got a Keurig. I've got a Nespresso. I've got an expensive espresso machine still in the box in the fucking garage. We drink a ton of coffee here, but not nearly enough to justify all that. But I think if I usually go back to cold brew coffee and oh yeah and I put zero sugar coconut cream in it and I drink that all day. That's one of the one of my favorite splurges in my house is we have an office curing machine so you don't have to fill
Starting point is 01:30:18 the reservoir. It's like plumbed into the water filter and it just goes all the time whenever you want coffee it's ready. I like that. That's cool. Yeah I need just goes all the time. Whenever you want coffee, it's ready. I like that. That's cool. Yeah, I need that for my dog bowl. I want my dog bowl to be, to never have to fill that thing again. I currently have a dog bowl.
Starting point is 01:30:33 It's nothing fancy, but it's the one that has a filter and it circulates the water continuously. That is fancy. So there's a big chamber on the bottom with like four liters of water and then there's a smaller chamber on top. with like four liters of water and then there's a smaller chamber on top It's more like a pan that the filtered water is spilled into like an old does it have LEDs? Yeah, yeah, so it turns red
Starting point is 01:30:53 So it's blue if it when it when it's normally and then it goes red when you need to add water Is that an app? No, there's no app. No, it's nothing fancy Caleb. Don't get wild No, there's no app. No, it's nothing fancy, Caleb. Don't get wild. Okay. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:31:08 You're right. Work is a man. But I would, but I still have to fill up this pitcher of water and make like multiple trips from the sink to it. I wish I just had like, like just water connected to it. It wouldn't even have to be a smart system. Just let it drip, you know, if it just dripped because there's dogs drink so much goddamn water. I've got this problem right now My neighbor has a dog too, but he's also got children
Starting point is 01:31:31 Which is like ten times worse than a dog and so they like look over the fence at my dog and tease my dog They're just playing with him, but they're like Like children are barking fake barking at my. And so he's jumping on my fence, but Toby's so big and scary that he's destroying the fence. He is chewing on the fence and scratching the fence. And I'm like, you're getting somewhere buddy. You're gonna get to those kids in a week or two. I gotta do something.
Starting point is 01:31:57 So go to your neighbor's side of the fence and hammer nails through it, problem solved. Oh. You're gonna move. I need, no, the opposite. I need to drive the nails from my side to keep them off to get the children. Why not? Yeah, sounds like it's a your dog problem. And those kids are just having a good time. Oh, yeah. They're leaning over. Is that what it sounds like? My dog, my dog's pure. I think you're being a bit of a Karen. Oh, really? Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:32:25 This is what it sounds like unbiased. Yeah, people are saying it. OK. A lot of people are talking about it. He used to shoot guns online. Now he's gay. You're driving me crazy. The dogs are going to like tear through the fence, though, like he's he's stretched on it so much that he's like digging through the wood. He's going to make his way through it. So you're going to like tear through the fence though. Like he's, he's stretched on it so much that he's like digging through the wood. He's going to make his way through it.
Starting point is 01:32:51 I'll shoot the kids. How old are the kids? Little, I don't know. Like, you know, like less than 12. Okay. Like little kids, you know, like, like the guy that you can't yell at or talk to without permission. Like little kids, you know, like the guy that you can't yell at or talk to without permission. I like find like balls and toys in my backyard pretty regularly from my neighbor's kids, like playing baseball or whatever and hitting it into my yard. And I always like make a point the second I notice it, like looking in my backyard, I'm like, I'm going out there right now. Like throwing that ball back in their yard.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Cause I remember how much that sucked as a kid to hit your ball into some neighbor's yard. And then you were like nervous about it, that you were going to get in trouble going over there, getting it. Meanwhile, like I wouldn't mind at all, obviously just kids coming to get a ball, but as a kid, you have that mindset of like, I'm going to get in trouble. Like I should do this. I'm doing the wrong thing.
Starting point is 01:33:44 And so anytime I see a ball out there, I just run out there, throw it back, keep the games going. No part of you wants to just go out there and stab a knife into it. No. Just ruin their little play time. No, never. No?
Starting point is 01:33:58 No. Dude, playing as a kid in like the cul-de-sac in the yard, it rocked. Here, let me do this. I don't, if I were to start, I don't want to kill them all. What I want to do is play. What are they like 12? Like I'm not the greatest athlete, but I could destroy these kids
Starting point is 01:34:14 at almost every sport if they're like 10, 11, like, Hey, he got room for one more. Dunk on them. I imagine. I get a red thing. What are you doing? Yes. We're going to need an eight foot hoop for this, but I could do. You look out the window and you see what he's taking his shirt off. And I.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Watches a ton of basketball. So like you look and like he's playing defense so hard. He's calling fouls. Oh yeah. Playing streetball. My basketball team, there's 30 teams in the NBA and we're top 29 right now. We? Sick. No, they're top 29 so it's me. The whole world hates our best player.
Starting point is 01:35:08 There's just not a lot of bright spots. The brightest spot is the next draft class is supposed to be very good and we're looking sweet. That's a good place to be. I'm sorry. Who's your 76ers? 76ers, the Philadelphia 76ers. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:35:21 It's okay. How did you not know that? I don't know. He's in North Carolina like like he supports those North Carolina college teams. He's from Jersey. He's a P-Loc. He likes the fires more than the hurricanes. Well, maybe he's a Charlotte Ornette fan. I don't know. Sometimes man. Yeah, Kyle, you know my favorite basketball team is essential to our relationship. It is. It's a big part of it. It's a touchstone of what makes us close. I thought maybe could be a Charlotte Ornette fan. Oh, no, he lives there. Yeah, I should give them more attention They're further away than people know it's over three hours
Starting point is 01:35:51 Yeah, it's a weirdly shaped state like the part of North Carolina Like I think of North Carolina is not that far because that little tidbit Where Cherokee is where the casino is and stuff isn't that far from me, but? The other end of North Carolina is terribly far away when I drove to your house that time long state I remember driving to your house and being like fuck six more hours yeah like what is this? North Carolina's it's not very tall I think you drive from bottom to top in like three hours but side to side is like eight hours and if you drive to the very western tip of North Carolina,
Starting point is 01:36:26 like you're closer to the Mississippi than you may have thought you'd be. So why? Yeah, I'm a, I'm super looking forward to the Trump inauguration and the parties and like, like the official stuff. I don't know what all the things are that happen. The two days I know about are obviously whenever, um, the January 6th thing, whenever they certify the election. And then I'm sure he's going to try to throw because you know he really cares about attendance. It seems like he would do his best to throw the biggest like inauguration day bash he
Starting point is 01:36:54 could possibly throw and and so I'm looking forward to seeing that too. That's a good call. I don't agree with it. I bet he does something but like usually the inaugurations are kind of like boring political events that you've already won. Who cares? Right? To me, the election was the event, not the inauguration. Um, but Trump will want a crowd. So if he were to get the Trump supporting celebrities or just something to make it an event that people want to attend, then I wouldn't be at all surprised.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Yeah. Like group of celebrities that support Trump, it's like, it's such a funny, it's like, it's like, it seems like the standup comedian side of celebrities are largely like pro Trump and then all the other like media Hollywood celebrities really dislike them. And so that could be like a funny lineup.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Like who's he gonna, like, who's he gonna bring out? Shane Gillis? James Woods. Kid Rock. Always seems to be there. Kevin Sorbo. Hawkeye. Kevin Sorbo. I don't know who that is. You've mentioned him before. And I'll keep mentioning him. You're just a little too young. He was a star of a popular TV show maybe called Hercules.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Hercules the legendary journeys. And you were probably just being born. Was he he also Beastmaster? No, he was not Crossovers with Lucy Lawless because she was Zena the warrior princess. That's what I was thinking of. Yeah Yeah, they're both shot in New Zealand by the same guy, I think. And so the crossovers made sense. But Sorbo is, you know, a conservative guy. Also, the chubby chick that got fired from Star Wars. You could you could roll her out.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Oh, yeah. What is her name? That giant tited Carano. Her name's Carano or something. Carano. Yeah, Carano. You know, Carano or something. Carano, yeah, Carano, you know, Carano. I like to order a lot of days. You know what I have noticed? Who's the guy who's like Greenwood or whatever? The one who wrote and sings the song Lee Greenwood, Lee Greenwood from the
Starting point is 01:38:55 lakes of Minnesota to the hills of Tennessee. Like that guy clearly has no issue with Trump playing his song. He shows up and sings it. It sings it. That guy. Trump is keeping him in business for sure. That guy was so big around 9 11. I don't know when he wrote that song. It existed before 9 11 or not.
Starting point is 01:39:16 But after 9 11, they played that shit like all day every day. Country music got a boost. I think coming out of 9-Eleven. Was Beer for My Horses 9-Eleven-ish, or did I just brand it that way in my mind? I think it was like right around the time, maybe a little after. It was somewhat after, but that's Kenny,
Starting point is 01:39:38 that's not Kenny, it's, what's his name? Toby Keith. Toby Keith. And Toby Keith had the real 9-Eleven song, you know, that was super popular. It may have been on the same. The one South Park made fun of. No, no, South Park was making fun of Alan Jackson's 9-Eleven song.
Starting point is 01:39:53 So Toby Keith's 9-Eleven song is like, we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way. Hey uncle Sam. He's got that one. You can fucking rock to that one. Alan Jackson was like, Where were you when the world stopped turning?
Starting point is 01:40:10 On that September day. And you're like, fuck! That was a rough day. I didn't want to think about that. I'm driving. I'm trying to get to work. It was a great day. I traded my Kadabra with my friend Alex,
Starting point is 01:40:23 evolved it into Alex Zam. It was a wonderful... I I traded my cadaver with my friend Alex evolved it into Alex zam Was a wonderful played in the woods all after my horses was a 9-eleven song. It specifically mentions Blew up a building and you know, too We got too many gangsters doing dirty deeds too much corruption the long arm of the law will put a few in the ground They'll make their maker will settle them down. It is a revenge song I was hyped for it when, that was the one that resonated with me. I did not pin that as a 9-11 song.
Starting point is 01:40:51 It's also got Willie Nelson. Willie Nelson? Yeah. I know all the words to that song. I've seen the music video. Same, I thought it was like a Western, about like a Western kind of. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:02 You mentioned blowing up a building. And happy said the p happy back in my day. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think.
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Starting point is 01:41:23 I think. I think. I think. I think. the effort. I remember, I remember Kitty texting me a video many years ago of you like scream singing so loud in a bathroom. Like you know when you exceed the volume of the resonation frequency of your bathroom where like there is like a not even that high pitch you have to hit to resonate with your bathroom and you were beyond that. You were basically, which it seems like yelling at that point, but you were passionate.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Sometimes I, uh, I just be obnoxious. So, so, um, I, I sing all day long, uh, throughout the house, especially in the shower. And, uh, sometimes I intentionally like push till it's obnoxious and like intentionally. Why do you do that? I do that same. I do that same thing.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Maybe, maybe two at times 10 to where I'll sing not off key, but I'll hit this crazy vibrato. Like if I don't know, like I do this thing where I'll, I'll last as I'll walk through the house just going, ah, for as long as I possibly can. And until people literally tell me to shut the fuck up. Or a song will play. And I'll be like, climb a ramp and take this climb up to the tree.
Starting point is 01:42:41 And I'll just do it as bad as I possibly can for as long as I can. I'm becoming good at it, which is what's the worst part. You are. Yeah. I can tell with the shape your mouth is making. You're not memeing. This isn't your first time. This is legit.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Yeah, this is. I like that. Sometimes I'll do Indian guy in the shower where I'm like why am I even bothering with this who cares about showers you just get that resonance frequency just get dirty again tomorrow right I'm just going to get dirty again so who even gives a fuck yeah I enjoy my shower time. That's a nice battle with filthiness. They're, dude, if you look at videos from India, you send me the videos. They love filth. They were bathing in the Ganges and that there was that filthy foam.
Starting point is 01:43:38 That foam stands up off the water thicker than like the tallest bubble bath you've ever seen in your life. I mean like a solid two feet of foam is coming off the water thicker than like the tallest bubble bath you've ever seen in your life. I mean like a solid two feet of foam is coming off the water and they're washing their hair in it and like scrub a dub dubbing in it and nobody's being shy about the foam. Nobody's like, oh like pushing like if there was if I saw that foam I'd be trying to find a clean spot. They're like, oh yeah, give me a little foam. You can't get all the foam. They're treating it like that. Raw water. They're treating it like soap. Like they're grabbing like the top of the foam
Starting point is 01:44:09 and putting it on. Rubbing it on. It's just like, it's just kind of like. Maybe there's a wealthier village upstream that washes in there too. They have another recycling soap. The Ganges needs to be pasteurized. Yeah. They really should.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Because Indians like, if you just watch the way they treated the Ganges, you would think that it was the most hated river, like, and that they despised it and that they saw it as the devil. But like righteous and nice and good. And it's still disgusting. Like there's like you've seen the clips. This is years ago, we shared it in our chat,
Starting point is 01:44:46 but there's a woman bathing in the Ganges and there are multiple bodies, like probably 15 yards out in the river floating down, like dead bodies floating down the river as they're bathing. And no, to everyone is totally non-compliant. Gargling the water and shit. Non-applied. Nobody is even like, hey, do you get a load of that?
Starting point is 01:45:07 Like no one cares. No one even, it's not a topic of conversation. I quickly moved it. I was like, maybe we're out of date. Maybe we're exaggerating. One picture can be misleading. Currently, it is considered the most polluted river in the world.
Starting point is 01:45:22 I'm like, okay. That's what's up. It's disgusting. It's embarrassing. Dude, people in like world. I'm like, okay, that's what's up. People in like India, China, Bangladesh, they fucking hate rivers. They like throw plastic at it and curse. Well, they're winning. Are these just like very rural areas where they can't, they don't have like good access to sort of education
Starting point is 01:45:41 and infrastructure or like what is going on? It's just. I think that's it. Yeah, that is a little cultural, you know, like it. I know I'm the only one here who was around in the 70s, but, you know, nature was your trash can. Did you finish eating fast food in the car? You're not just going to leave that bag in the car for the rest of your trip, right?
Starting point is 01:46:00 There's a window right next to you. That was the culture in 1978. I am so I don't think there's been any cultural change. I appreciate as much as like me to the non normalization of littering. Like I if I see someone throw something out of their car. Yeah, I hate it's like, where do you get off? Like everybody lives here, you piece of shit. Like just throw it in the garbage can. Certain exceptions.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I'm totally OK with like an apple core banana peel. Sure. Yeah. Like biodegradable stuff like you throw an apple core. Like if I throw a banana peel out in my head, I'm like, I just made like some Ant Hill's life. I just got stoked. Yeah. You just chucked all the Eldorado right on their fucking little house.
Starting point is 01:46:43 You draw the line. Where exactly is the line? Because plastic biodegradable stuff. I don't like tomato on like sandwiches. So if I get like a sandwich and they put tomato in that bitch, I'm tossing that right off the window. Throw that out. You're animals like a bird. Will eat that a bug will eat that.
Starting point is 01:46:57 I don't like paper products count. They should not be thrown away. Yeah. And like every year I fry a turkey. And so I have like four gallons of this putrid peanut oil. I just dump that right in the strange right in the neighbor's yard. People throw cigarette butts on the ground, arguing that it's paper and it will degrade,
Starting point is 01:47:15 but they would never do that with the bag that their fast food came in. Yeah. And they should look at them as the same. I agree. And then there's a random cigarette where the butts have flower seeds in them Really? That's kind of cool. I think I've seen that
Starting point is 01:47:31 I just solved the fucking problem here I'm planting a fucking flower garden in your yard now you gotta shit on that If they're doing that then i'm okay with it, but i'm pretty sure I would lie to you and tell you it was, but just flicking them in your yard. Just flicking like you never take. Marlboro doesn't know shit about growing things. There's a pile of of your camel crushes in my yard. And I'm like, what are they going to sprout? Like, it's got a little blue flower in it.
Starting point is 01:47:59 It's been hoodwinked. Every time you go outside, you look at my cigarette butts and like, I say, any day now. I said there were two lips. I'm burying them. Yeah. No, I think the cigarette butt thing, there's something in the cigarette butt that doesn't degrade, right? Plastic. Plastic. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:48:19 Or maybe fiberglass or there's something in the filter. Everything else will, will rot away. Obviously tobacco is biodegradable. The paper itself will go away in no time, but there's something in the filter. Everything else will rot away. Obviously tobacco is biodegradable. The paper itself will go away in no time, but there's something in the filter that doesn't go away. And that's why people don't like it. I'm gonna say plastic. Probably. Yeah, I'd say something plastic, plastic related.
Starting point is 01:48:34 People should go back to smoking no filter cigarettes, like all those badasses in World War II. Look at that, problem solved. Now there's no filters to degrade. You just smoke a stronger cigarette. And look at this, we're solving smoking too, because I bet one of those no filter cigarettes hits as hard as like five regular cigarettes, right?
Starting point is 01:48:53 Yeah, but no, I mean, you know, you wanted the nicotines throughout the day though. I don't think I've ever smoked a, oh yeah, I have. I've smoked a rolled cigarette before. I remember it being super harsh and like not- What does harsh mean? Does it make you cough?
Starting point is 01:49:09 It would burn your throat like immediately, like stinging and burning my throat. Like it's too hot and it's unfiltered. And so it's like harsh. Okay. Did you guys see the new vaping study that just came out? Couple of vapors. No.
Starting point is 01:49:24 I don't need to hear about it. Did they conclude that it's totally fine? The conclusion was that the LGBTQ groups smoke at twice the rate of heterosexual groups. 36.7% vs. like 17%. Dude, I could have gay sex on camera and the gayest thing I'd do would still be vaping. Do you vape, Woody? Do I vape? Yeah. No, I have bought a CBD vape once, like five years ago.
Starting point is 01:50:03 But not regularly. Yeah, I don't. I remember I went on a date with a girl. This is like two years ago now and I was like, I pulled out the vape and I was like, before I pulled it out, I was like, I have something to tell you and she was like, oh no. It's like third, fourth date. I have something to tell you and she was like, oh no, it's like third, fourth day. I have something to tell you. What is it? I like, I have, I have, I have a vaporizer in my pocket and she's like, what are you saying to me right now? I was like, I've, I've made nicotine. She's like, Oh Jesus Christ. I thought you're, I thought you had killed me or something.
Starting point is 01:50:41 kill me or something. The favorizer like men in black. Sounded like you had a fucking weapon. Oh no, no, no, trust me, I can't have weapons anymore. It's cool. You have nothing to worry about. The government says I can't have weapons. Ever since the felony connection convictions, I stopped carrying weapons. You're safe.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Dude, I felt like hook, line and sinker for the vape shit in like 2013 or like I smoked a decent amount of cigarettes pretty regularly in college with buckets of cigarettes. Dude, I felt like hook, line and sinker for the vape shit in like 2013 or like I smoked a decent amount of cigarettes pretty regularly in college with buddies and whatnot. And then kind of got addicted to it. And then, and then like 2013 is when like the vapes and all that stuff was really coming out and like they didn't have disposables. It was just you put like juice in there and they were like, do this. This is way better for you than smoking. And
Starting point is 01:51:27 so I switched then and convinced myself like I'm gonna quit using this total failure. So a failure in terms of quitting but it is healthier, right? Way healthier. It can't be as bad smoking but it's still healthier. It's not good for me. Yeah, it's not poison. It's way healthier to you. It's not good for me. It's substantially healthier. It's not poison.
Starting point is 01:51:45 It's way healthier to you. And I'm not even addicted. It's just, I get like really anxious if I don't have it right just now. My day just kind of, I'm not addicted, but my day just kind of derails in a sense. It's not like it's I'm addicted or so. I'm not addicted, but if I reach for nicotine and it's not there,
Starting point is 01:52:06 everything else stops until that's resolved. But I'm not. Anything or do. No, no. My thing is my thing is ginger. Ginger. Oh, well, that is he puts it in his ass. I do. I'm so addicted to ginger and it's not even a joke. Like this morning. Oh, shit. I'll prepare me a bite
Starting point is 01:52:25 and I'll tell a story. What impact does it have? What's that? What impact does I guess you put in your lip? I just chew it and eat it, swallow it. It makes so I have a, I am, my stomach is very sensitive and I eat ginger after meals to help with digestion. And I've done it for a really long time. And now it feels like, which I know it's not true, but it feels like if I don't have ginger after a meal or if I start to feel a certain way, it's like I'm addicted to it. And I'm like, oh fuck, where is it? Where like, where's my, I am like a ginger bulb.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Where's my bulb? I need my woot. Ginger is like a really well known in the sailing community is an anti-nausea thing. People do that and they may have ginger meals on their travel days and such. Do you think that's at all comparable to what you're doing? Like the sensitive stomach need ginger? Yeah, I think so. But it's more so just like a crutch thing for me now. Like it makes me feel calm.
Starting point is 01:53:31 And it has a lot of health benefits as well. I also eat it for its health benefits. Like it's a vasodilator. It's good for migraines. If I feel very sick when I have a migraine, if I take Tylenol, it kind of cuts the headache a little bit, but I still feel really nauseous. And that helps. Ginger does, I mean. And it has a lot of efficacy in a lot of different ways. It's very well studied. So, you know, it's huge anti-inflammatory. Yeah, it's very healthy in a lot of different ways. That's why that's the main reason, but I genuinely do have it every single day. And I feel a sense of panic if I don't have it. Do you get like a ginged out in public? Like a pull it out? it every single day and I feel a sense of panic if I don't have it. Do you get like a ginged out in public?
Starting point is 01:54:07 Like a pull it out? Yeah. Oh yeah. I'll nib. Dude, you're selling it so hard. I want a ginger addiction now. Dude, I can't imagine a less maladaptive addiction than cheese. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:20 I mean. Look at that. Pop that in. And you just chew it and eat it? Yeah. It mean, look at that. And you just chew it and eat it. Yeah. It's really spicy. And it's funny watching people who aren't used to it, eat it. They react so poorly to it because I don't think it's capsaicin. I think it's like some other, I think it's gingerol is the component in the ginger that makes your mouth burn.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Probably similar to horseradish, they got like a similar. It is very similar. Like a burn. Ginger, the vasodilator, like side effects include lack of nausea, extra hard, fresh death. Dude, yeah. Boners, oh, and your breath as well, my teeth. I haven't been to the dentist in a long time. I'm not going to say how long,
Starting point is 01:55:06 but it's been over 10 years. It's been exactly 10 years. As far as I know, they're fine. And well, they're fine. I went a couple years ago, like two years ago, and they were just like, I told them that I had been in six months before and they're like, yeah, you're all good. They didn't say you haven't been to the dentist. You need to come. We need to clean your teeth like every six months or whatever. They also told me when I went the last time that my wisdom tooth was impacted, I needed
Starting point is 01:55:35 to get it removed. And then I went again six months later and they just never mentioned it. And I was like, all right, this is fucking nonsense. And then I started to get very heavily into just working and not caring about my physical body. And ginger became a part of my life at that point as well as like a way to sort of counteract some of the negative things that I was doing, just like staying up and working too much and just being like hyper-focused on certain things that are not necessarily healthy. And my teeth, I brush my teeth obviously
Starting point is 01:56:05 twice a day, but the ginger I feel like really helps a lot. My breath doesn't ever stink. I've got maybe a few pits like that are that could potentially become cavities, but that's remarkable. I drink so much Dr. Pepper and like sugary shit. I should absolutely have holes in my teeth at this point. They say like most of your tooth problems are from diet. Yeah. Like people who eat lots of sugar, lots of processed carbs, which is just sugar, like they have fucked up teeth,
Starting point is 01:56:37 but like they eat mostly reasonably, it isn't a huge issue. Especially get on the diet. Unless you have like, like I had really bad bruxism, which is like grinding your teeth when you sleep, which is something you can't really avoid through diet. It's just something you do a night guard. No, I had a mouth guard years and years ago and I wore it like literally four nights in a row. And every single night I would, or every morning rather, I would wake up and it was spit out and
Starting point is 01:57:04 it was like in the bed somewhere, like in my covers somewhere. four nights in a row and every single night I would, or every morning rather, I would wake up and it was spit out and it was like in the bed somewhere, like in my covers somewhere. I wouldn't stay in. I wasn't waking up and taking it out. I was just spitting it out at some point through the night. And so I stopped. I wonder if a better one would help.
Starting point is 01:57:17 So I wear a retainer. I had those Invisaligns a while ago and I sleep with a retainer. You pry that shit off your teeth. There's no way you'd spit it. You couldn't get it off with your tongue. No way. Yeah, mine was not that high quality then.
Starting point is 01:57:30 I didn't have a good one. Loser. I got fake teeth. So you do you got fake teeth? Well, they, they're, my real teeth are still under there. It's just all this is like that shit they use to fill in cavities. My dentist basically treated me like a Frankenstein creature where he was like, Hey, uh, you're, you're Bruxism.
Starting point is 01:57:57 You're grinding is so bad. You have the molars. Uh, they've been ground down 1.5 millimeters or whatever the metric was. And I was like, okay, that, that sounds like a small amount. And he's like, well, the metric we use is, you know, 0.25 millimeters per 25 years of life. And so effectively what I'm telling you is you have the molar wear of 120 year old man, because you're grinding so aggressively at night. And you obviously can't stop it because you're grinding so aggressively at night. And you obviously can't stop it because you're doing it at night. You probably wake up and occasionally have a sore jaw. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:58:30 I've never woken up with a sore jaw. And he's like, actually, now that I'm looking at, makes sense. You have the large, he told me this, my dentist told me I have the largest masseter muscles he's ever seen on a patient, which are the, the chewing and biting. Yeah. He was like, you have the largest masseters I've ever seen on a patient, which are the chewing and biting. Like a hyena. Yeah. He was like, you have the largest massagers I've ever seen. And that's because you're doing unknowing workouts in the middle of the night for your
Starting point is 01:58:54 entire adult life. I'm like, this is grinding my ass off. And so he rebuilt my teeth to make them overlap instead of just hitting against each other. So is it, you have veneers on the front or is it like a mortise and tendon joint? Do you know what that is? No, I don't know what that is. Can you show a picture of a mortise and tendon joint? Basically there's like a dowel that goes into a hole.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Is that how your teeth are? Like they're just, they cut. How my teeth were naturally is that like there wasn't any overlap. It was just hitting the way the new teeth are as he took my old upper teeth, built them out. So now they overlap above my, my front lower teeth. And so I can't grind the same way. And then all of these teeth are normal.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Yeah. And that's how you go on. Like they fit around the yes. Yeah. That's what it goes around the teeth. And then so the bottom lower molars, I have all fake like build up. And then the front upper, I have fake build up.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Everything else is the same because that's all they had to change to make it. So my actual mouth locks in and doesn't let me grind. But I also have not been to the dentist in a long time at this point. When you get new teeth, can they do it same day? Or do you have like tenons for a day or two? Part of the reason I like don't want to go back is because the last or when I went and
Starting point is 02:00:18 got all this done, they told me it would be like a few hour thing. And I was in a dentist chair for like 10 hours, for like 10 straight hours, like from 8 a.m. when they opened or whatever until they closed. Like they stayed open late for me to stay there. And it was awful. And this dental hygienist, I hate this.
Starting point is 02:00:41 I hate my dental hygienist more than Hitler hated juice. I hate her so much. She would like take these scrapers and just give me hell. Just give me hell and be like your gums are bleeding. That could be an early sign of gingivitis. Do your gums bleed when you brush your teeth? And it's like, not unless I'm going hog wild the way you are with this shit right now, like no. And she's like, oh, interesting. And it's like, no, it's not interesting. It's because you're being a retard right now
Starting point is 02:01:16 and digging around like you're mining for something instead of just doing a little scrape, a little scrape, but no, every time I see that fat, that fat white cunt, I hate her so much. I wish I recalled her exact name. Did you have a different one? No, my dentist is fine. He only has one hygienist? No, it's the same hygienist
Starting point is 02:01:41 that I've gotten multiple times. Anytime I go there and I don't get her specifically, everything goes hunky dory, totally fine. When I get her specifically, she's this like early 40s, at this point probably early 50s. I've been in this for so long. I don't know her name, she's a fucking stucin' or whatever, but she's a fucking cunt and she goes at my teeth
Starting point is 02:02:00 like they owe her money and I'm sick of it and I will not go back. And so now I'm just like waiting until the way I do the dentist now is if something starts hurting I'll go. But everything seems to be fine. Nothing's bleeding, nothing's hurting. It's all fine. And think about this.
Starting point is 02:02:19 When you get a cavity filled with this stuff that's on my teeth, problem solved. No more evil can get in that cavity. I have so many teeth entirely confined in this safety prism of cavity filling. And so like, why do I need to go? Rubber room. It's a rubber room. It's a steel room. It's an enamel room.
Starting point is 02:02:49 It's a Bondo room. It's a Bondo room. It's a bondo on your teeth. Yeah. I hate the scene the last time I was at the dentist and stopped payment on my credit card. Did you take your dick out? I almost took my dick out. It was when I needed a root canal terribly. And we went to this emergency dentist online and it was it was like highly recommended and When I got there, they're like, yeah. Yeah, you really need a root canal bad. That's like, yeah Let's get started and they're like, oh well, we'll need to get the dentist in on maybe next Monday He come in or probably Tuesday though. I know he's got a thing on Monday. So I'm like, what are you? Like you like I'm just the person that wastes your time on your initial visit and charges you $280. And I was like, I'm not happy with this scenario. And I started yelling
Starting point is 02:03:34 because I was in so much pain. And I was I was at the front like paying the lady and I was like, she was like, what did what did the dentist say? And I was like, you don't have a dentist here today. She's like, what do you mean? I was like, there are no dentists here. There are no dentists here doing dentistry. There are none. I was like, you've got a bunch of tooth cleaners. And I said, I have enough that they could hear like through the curtain. Did you use a hard R or did you say tooth cleaners?
Starting point is 02:03:59 I said tooth cleaners. All right. I wasn't trying to get beat up. We were in Atlanta. It was I was teeth to clean up. I wasn't trying to get beat up. We were in Atlanta. I was too clean up. I wasn't trying to get hurt. I did that too. It wasn't that there was no dentists, it's that they were late. So this is the time I live at work at Cisco. I was incredibly busy and stressed and just deadlines like pushing me down in life and everything and the weight of the fucking world and new
Starting point is 02:04:23 kids and mortgage and everything on my shoulders and they can't pull on this fucking train solo. And you know, I'd make my dentist appointment and they'd be like, what time do you want? I said, What time are you most likely not to be late? And they're like 1pm at 1pm we come back from lunch. And we all start again at one on time. pencil me in. I don't care what day it is But I care about 1 p.m. Now, that's the thing. It's like
Starting point is 02:04:49 147 when they call me back there and I'm like no No, I'm not no. No, you're fired. We're done here. Our relationship is over and I'm like in the waiting room I want everyone to know that I just fired the dentist I'm making a scene at this. This is like 15, 20 years ago. And it was just that. I was like, you are too late. It's 1 47.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Like I can't imagine running 47 minutes late for an appointment when I specifically asked for an appointment in which you wouldn't be late. What is going on here? And by the way, like 1 17, 1 27, 1 144. I'm like, is he almost ready? Is he almost ready? It wasn't until they call me back and I like I just boiled over other 47 minutes is wild. So I fired my dentist never saw him again. Dr. Man, you run a bad office.
Starting point is 02:05:37 Got a horrible infection. I go to the dentist regularly. My dentist now is on my good list because one time being a moron, it seems like every couple of years I bite a fork and I chipped a tooth and I was like, I got a show tonight and I look ridiculous. And he's like, come right over, we got you. And apparently he does this really well.
Starting point is 02:06:01 He like did fucking miss America's teeth or whoever the pageant contestants are. Like this is like his thing and I'm happy with it. And he's, I don't know, that may be a deposit in the emotional bank account that I haven't forgotten. Nice, an emergency dentist just right when you need him. I've never been in a fork. For better.
Starting point is 02:06:21 I've never been in a fork so hard I chipped a tooth. I was in the ocean one of the few times that I've been so and I had a wakeboard and the the the water lifted the wakeboard suddenly because I had it floating right in front of me it hit my chin and made me bite and it chipped my tooth really badly had to go get that fixed I could see how that would happen like slammed my mouth you could fall on them too if you're standing every every time I've been to the ocean, I got hurt. I hate that place. That's why, okay, that's why you have this animus
Starting point is 02:06:51 towards the ocean. Because when we've talked about beach vacations in the past, you're always like, no, that's stupid. I'd rather not go. I'd rather not go. Well, how did you hurt yourself at the beach multiple times? One time I was skim boarding and like I I
Starting point is 02:07:17 Like timed it wrong or something and I end up sliding on my knee on a seashell And it cut my knee. Did you make an ass of yourself in front of everyone? No, you know, I was skim boarding I was doing all right up until then. And then I, you know, I fell and like skimped my knee up real bad on a seashell. And that ruined the day. One year I got so badly seabour sunburned the first day that the whole trip was ruined. But mostly the skill if you if I'm being honest, though, it could be perfect. Like it could be a perfect day.
Starting point is 02:07:41 And what I don't like is the sand, the salt water and the sun, Taylor. And those are the three components of a beach day. All right, fine. If you don't like those three things, you're not gonna enjoy the beach. The idea of getting in that salt water, oh God, it makes me so itchy. It's like when you've worked with fiberglass.
Starting point is 02:08:02 I'm the opposite. And Caleb, you might not know, I grew up by the beach. So when I go to the beach and get closer and start smelling the salty air or the bay, like it smells like home to me. Like something about the aroma of it is like, oh, this is my jam. And when I go to the beach, like even now at like 51, I guess,
Starting point is 02:08:21 like I don't go in the water like a normal person because all the normal people, they wade in the water, they do one of't go in the water like a normal person, because all the normal people they wait in the water, they do one of these deals is the water like gets to their bathing suit level. That's not what fucking locals do. locals hit that beach at a goddamn sprint and do a front flip into the first wave that's deep enough. That's how I go in the water. And if you were to see me body serve, I would be the best in miles around.
Starting point is 02:08:43 I would be the best in miles around. I want to go on a beach trip with Woody so bad. We should do that for the next P.K.A. like get together. We should do a beach trip. We just let Woody body surf. And you can be miserable. I would like I'd talk to the lifeguards and be like, hey, man, yeah, I was a guard, too. I'm going to need a special. I'll pull a win over to the other lifeguard station.
Starting point is 02:09:03 You know, like I'll be back in an hour and a half. And they're like, yeah, man, cool. Like part of the brotherhood go. And yeah, I'm, so like everyone else is like, why can't we swim like that? Like, well, can you swim like that? And that's why. Yeah. The beach is my jam. You wouldn't like that, Kyle. Even if what if I brought a ton of edibles and we could just get cooked? Oh do you have rare edibles? Do they have like weed in them? Oh well I live in a legal
Starting point is 02:09:34 so I live in a legal state so yes. I do too. You don't? Oh you live in you live in gay Georgia. Everyone's talking about Georgia it's one of the gayest states there's a about Georgia. It's one of the gayest states. There's a lot of gay. There's one guy in particular is named Kyle Meyers, felon. And everyone's calling him a faggot. I don't say it's true. I'm just saying that's what they're calling him. No, I would hate that. I would hate it. I always say every time I'll never go back again. I can genuinely say the odds of me being back on a beach for like the rest of my life are so low. They're so low. It's a beach rocks. It doesn't open up your like sense of fan.
Starting point is 02:10:09 Like I stand at the beach, look forward and be like, you keep going, that's Italy. Like this is the real beach. That's cool to me. You're talking about something different now though. You're talking about looking at the ocean. Now I would happily go out on a boat on the ocean. I would even happily look off the balcony at my hotel that was on the beach and look at the ocean. Now I would happily go out on a boat on the ocean. I would even happily look off the balcony
Starting point is 02:10:25 at my hotel that was on the beach and look at the ocean. That's pretty, but I don't want to go down there. I don't want to get in that sand. The sand's gonna get my shoes, Taylor. Here, write me shoes. You're gonna wear sandals. Why are you wearing shoes at the beach, you tourist? Yeah, just wear sandals. No, I wear my boat shoes like a man, of course. What are you talking about? I always wear my boat shoes. You got you got sparrows on? No. And do you have like a pastel, of course. What are you talking about? I always wear my boat. You got, you got Sparys on. And do you have like a pastel blue shorts? And wilderness adventures. I wear my, my, my penny loafers. Okay. That's the only way. That's why you're not enjoying it. See what he's going to be running out there.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Frolicking. I'm going to be sitting there high as hell. Shoebies where I'm from. We grew up calling all the non-local shoebies. It's a pejorative term and it's people who wear shoes to the fucking beach. And that's fair because I don't wear shoes on a date. I know Caleb did. I get your flip-flops every single day. More or less. Like flip-flops or moccasins more or less. I was more of so making fun of Chiz because when we did our survival trip, he showed up with those penny loafers and it was like, dude, didn't he?
Starting point is 02:11:24 I was like, dude, we're it was like dude we're about to hike into the jungle. Were there pennies in them? No he lost the pennies in the woods. You know like you step in and your foot sinks two inches or so like it's a little muddy like penny loafers are not the shoe for that. And like, you know, like a hundred years of leaf fall and stuff like that. Like it was the woods woods. No, I just really despise the beach. It's my least favorite one.
Starting point is 02:11:52 I hear people are going and not doing like a beach activity. It's like if you swim or surf or board of any kind. I'm defensive about this. I'm like, yeah, well I hate chicken farms. Yeah, well, fuck you. This is and I'm on I'm on Team Woody or the Beach Rules. And also, like there would be more leeway here if you also weren't vehemently against like skiing in the mountains.
Starting point is 02:12:17 It hurts my ankles. But we can get those ankles up for you. You want me to like that people always do this. They're like, oh, but we'll make it so those ankles up for you. You want me to like that? People always do this. They're like, oh, but we'll make sure your ankles don't hurt. It's like it hurts my ankles real bad. I don't want to do it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:31 But just because you have bitch made ankles doesn't mean like we can strap you into ski boots. Those ski boots lock your ankles in. They can't move. If something's going to break, it's going to be your shanty. And that is why I'm baffled because he used ski boots. I was there. He had ski boots and they weren't garbage ski boots,
Starting point is 02:12:46 but for some reason his ankles were still not okay. I, like your ankles just didn't have to do any work in those boots. The bone in my ankle sticks out. It protrudes more than yours does. Does it? Yes. I think you just got Bambi ankles, dude.
Starting point is 02:13:01 It's, and I always end up in this goddamn conversation and I'm like, what do you want me to do? You want to measure them? You want to measure my ankle? I want to do a little phrenology on your ankle. Can you send me some foot pics like with and without painted toenails? I see the problem. So there's hairs in the way. That's what's hurting you. You got ingrown hairs on your ankles. It's one of those things where like, I know for a fact you would have a blast skiing,
Starting point is 02:13:25 but there's this there's this little thing. That's not what I like though. I don't like that. Going fast, the thrill, it's a lot of fun. You're not even going fast enough. If you're good, you are. Not fast enough to be fun. If I'm going to go fast in the snow, I want to be on like a badass snowmobile or a snowcat
Starting point is 02:13:41 or something cool like that. I want something with a motor and the beach could be fun too. Jet skis on the ocean would be sick. Like I would love to do that. But what I don't wanna do is sit in that hot ass sun and drink lukewarm beer all day and get sunburn. I hate it. And I'm not gonna swim.
Starting point is 02:13:59 I wouldn't swim either. When I go to the beach, I like to read. I like to maybe do a light amount of frolicking in the waves. Yeah, read. I don't like it, dude. I'm anti-beach. You're anti-off.
Starting point is 02:14:10 How far are you from the beach? Five hours from the Gulf now, but I grew up in Virginia. So we would go to like Virginia beach and the Emerald Island, like Kitty Hawk and all that shit. I think it's just because it's like the East Coast beaches They're just what I grew up with. So just I don't know never really like fishing. I don't like the beach really Thank you When I see a grown man at the beach laughing and having a good time, yeah, I think
Starting point is 02:14:43 I think, is he a pedophile? What's he doing? You don't like that? You don't like seeing him? Is he, what's he doing with them kids out there in the waves too? Keep an eye on that guy. That's how I feel about farmers. All I know is like,
Starting point is 02:14:52 I'm going to do the freaking pond. Look, look, the strong man has elected to frolic with children in an environment where we can't see what's going on below his waist is all I'm saying. And he's out there splitting and splashing. I mean, if I see a guy with a John Deere, I wonder what he's doing with that thing at night. What's he doing with that John Deere?
Starting point is 02:15:07 If I have horsepower up is fine though. 65 and up? 65, 70 up is fine. Under that, you're just a hobbyist. Oh my God. Do you know how much I'm jealous of you? I was like, in my head as a kid like actively jealous of people who grew up near the ocean because I grew up in Missouri and so like I'm a million miles from that shit. And so I used to think like, damn, there are kids who grow up that can literally just go
Starting point is 02:15:38 to the ocean. Yeah. Fuck those kids. It was my whole social scene sense of identity. I would go surfing before school in the morning and just feel really fortunate that that was what I could do. That would be awesome. There are sharks out there, Taylor.
Starting point is 02:15:53 That's good. You know that? Yeah, but like if I grew up around it, I would have probably the same outlook what he does, really. I just don't think about it. Like you just do not. Guns don't work good in the ocean, Taylor.
Starting point is 02:16:04 Well, I wouldn't bring it down in the ocean. I supposed to defend myself. Have you seen that guy with one of those cool air blowing knives that explodes their organs? That guy in Florida has a Glock. He's modified and he shoots like like sea urchins or something that aren't supposed to be there. Like like like he's just scuba down there shooting invasive.
Starting point is 02:16:23 I've seen it. Could it be lionfish by chance? Yeah, I think it is lionfish. Yeah, something like that. It's not it looks spiny. I remember that being like a weird bony spiny fish. And you show a lionfish, Zach. It's kind of white and black and spiky.
Starting point is 02:16:37 Yeah, you should go guns work underwater like especially Glock pistols. Nine mil. How far would it shoot, though? Every time a three feet. They reciprocate. Do they? Does the slide go back? Glock pistols. Nine mil. How far would it shoot though? Are we talking about three feet? Do they reciprocate? Do they, does the slide go back? I assume they wouldn't be sitting on that,
Starting point is 02:16:50 but it could still work this. I mean, it would still shoot. Yeah, I think it'll cycle. I think it'll cycle fully submerged. And I think there's an, I think that there's something you can get for a Glock, a modification for underwater fire. Wow, that's cool.
Starting point is 02:17:04 I did not know that. But you can walk in like a bucket of water and shoot a fish is venomous. You can eat it, but you need to know what you're doing. Yeah, we need a master level fishmonger. Yeah, is that one of the is this one of the sushi fish that like you do need a master to do? Yeah, I know. I know that's not what Fugu is.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Fugu is the the puffer fish. Yeah, yeah. Apparently, I don't know not what Fugu is Fugu is the the puffer fish. Yeah. Yeah They make excellent lovers have you guys seen the the butter bean chickens getting fucked you all seen that I Have not I saw Butterball turkeys butter being chickens. Oh, that wasn't me Allegedly. Yeah butterbean is a kind of chicken. It's like a butterball is like a type of variety of chicken. And apparently people been fucking the shit out of them. Because Butterbean is the boxer who beat the shit out of Johnny Knoxville and the Macy's. Yeah. Y'all know about Butterball, the brand? No, I know about that. I misspoke. I misspoke. Somebody's been molesting the chickens? Yes, somebody's been, or the turkeys.
Starting point is 02:18:07 Butterball, the largest producer of turkey products in the United States, has spoken out amid fur over a shocking PETA video that is damaging its reputation. The claim is that PETA is protesting disgusting sexual abuse at the Butterball factory. People are just going to tell them these things. Really? I heard about it in our hangout. Someone else was well versed on turkey sex and I was for it. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:36 You like that? Well, the theory is that if it's big enough for an egg to come out of there, it's big enough for me to come in there. Okay. Have you guys ever had a turkey egg? Is that something you can eat? No, that's so funny. Like we talked about this one last night and I was like, there's no way that I've just never considered a turkey egg.
Starting point is 02:19:02 I guess they must lay them in such small quantities that it's totally unsustainable to sell Yeah, there's there's it's easy to find on youtube one, you know your favorite youtube chef Going and splurging on an ostrich egg for like the some some video he's making and they seem to say that tastes good And it actually seems like it would make sense Like if you had a bunch of people over like if you're making like breakfast for five or six people and an ostrich egg would be pretty cool. Yeah, it looks like it's the size of like 18.
Starting point is 02:19:32 I don't know why it grosses me out. Isn't it weird how like I'm drinking a cow's milk is ingrained in me. The idea of drinking most other animals' milk is gross to me. Yeah, like a cat. Drinking a chicken's,'s eating a chicken's egg completely ingrained in me. Like that makes sense. But even eating like the ostrich egg, I'm like,
Starting point is 02:19:54 that big egg is that it's I don't know if I want to eat that big weird egg. That's kind of gross. Yeah, that's a dinosaur in there. That's scary. Oh, I mean, I'm supposed to eat that. I didn't been domesticated or whatever. Yeah Do y'all if there was small batch, let's say small batch cruelty-free breast milk human breast milk Would you buy it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah till yes. Yeah, I would I would try it
Starting point is 02:20:20 Wait, I really stress the cruelty free thing. Does it have to be cruelty free? I would go for the mass market, like the kind of women that Andrew Tate allegedly has. I was going there, we were racing to that. I was giving milk to her too. Because if it's some like ugly bitch, I don't want to drink her milk. If it's some hottie. It wasn't that I had convinced that Tilk was real. We had a guest on.
Starting point is 02:20:49 So look, I had this bit 10 years ago about selling breast milk and it would be called Titty Milk. So it would be Tilk. And it would be like tilk.com. And then I convinced one of our guests that I was legitimately selling, it was all real, that I was selling women's breast milk. And I explained that we we had I think the joke was I had a black lady for chocolate milk I got got to that part when they realized I was fucking willing I don't remember what guest fell for that but it could be a good you know human trafficking already a huge industry
Starting point is 02:21:20 you hear about that just business man doing. Why not add in milk? You know, just import it. No, I want domestic milk. You want like a domestic. OK, so like what what kind of farm do you want these ladies roaming around? Really sexy farm. I'm imagining all the stalls are are very plush. You know, I'm imagining some sex machines. I really like we talked about who cows like three weeks ago,, like when they got the industrial milkers on those girls.
Starting point is 02:21:47 Yeah, that's the- I'm into that. Those who cows were chunky women. Lactating women are typically at not the tip of their sexual market values. It's true. It's true. There's some aggressive genes in these tits. I'm okay with the veiny tits, you know, but you're right, Woody.
Starting point is 02:22:02 A lot of the who cows are who heifers. And it's not like they used to right Woody a lot of the who cows are who heifers and it's It's not like they used to be there used to be who cows They're saying that This is full fat. These are full fat heifers. I could use some skin heifers I like I like that fetish. That's one of the sillier like harm-free fetishes that I'm like Ah, that's just goofy what you guys are up to over there That's that's not hurting anybody and then you got those clowns that are hanging themselves from hooks from fucking suspending themselves from hooks Taylor
Starting point is 02:22:33 There's a guy in our fucking that's what came out the other night I know that there's like two different guys in our discord that like both suspend themselves from hooks. I Don't I don't like that one bit. I don't like suspended. No, I'm not really into that. That sounds terrible. Awful. Yeah, Phil. I remember years ago, filthy was on the show and he was like, yeah, these people just like to hang from hooks. And it's just part of their like little microculture here. And I remember thinking like, this is disgusting and this should be discouraged. I thought Filthy was also into the hook play. I thought he was a little bit of a hooker himself.
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Starting point is 02:28:09 We're going to call them gay and we're going to say, oh, my. Everyone in his audience, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. We're going to say it and we're going to lay we're going to linger on the are we're not going to just say the are that we're going to linger on it.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, just the thousands of people loving it. Anyway, Sour Boys, how has that been going? It seems like it's wildly successful, probably beyond what you imagined it to be. Do you see yourself going into any other food package goods? Yeah. So, Sour Boys is awesome. It's tough to even really kind of articulate it in a way that makes it... If I explain it in a very base level, it started a business and it's like a cool YouTube business, whatever. That's cool. But also, we don't have like a co-manufacturer. There's no middleman. It is my best friend from childhood that I've known since I was born. My mom babysat him when I was born. We've known each other for our entire lives.
Starting point is 02:29:15 He's an engineer. Him and I just sat down and tried to figure out these different recipes for licorice many years ago and then figured it out. Had a bunch of crazy shit happen with buying our first piece of machinery, got scammed, and then just kept on... It's like the ultimate sort of, you're allowed to do this in America type thing. It was really cool. It was just very cool and very meaningful and there was a lot of camaraderie and we didn't do it the right way. I'm sure there was a lot of more efficient ways, a lot of less dumb ways. But in a sense, you only can get to a certain point by just having blinders on and just
Starting point is 02:29:54 refusing to quit, refusing to give up. That's what we did. That's where we're at now. We're at this business who has a very loyal fan base who we try to treat as good as we possibly can. And like our customer service is awesome and the products we continuously... And like every week we have a new flavor. Every week?
Starting point is 02:30:12 It's pretty cool. Every week, every Friday at 3 Central Standard, we drop a new... Are they all sour? Because I love candy, but I'm not a sour boy. I don't like sour. I like sweet candy, not sour candy. He's a soy guy. I'm a soy boy. You're a sour boy. I don't like sweet candy, not sour. He's a soy guy. I'm a soy boy. You're a soy boy. Yeah, right now they're all sour, but in 2025 we're definitely gonna try
Starting point is 02:30:34 to get some other stuff. We're trying to build a warehouse right now because we're in two different little kind of, I wouldn't say shitty locations, but unoptimized locations, I should say. How much did you have to invest in the business before you sold your first product? but unoptimized locations, I should say. How much did you have to invest in the business before you sold your first product?
Starting point is 02:30:49 Before, okay, that's a good one. So before we sold our first product, it was about, before we sold our first product that we made in the factory, that was in July of 2023, so it was last year, last July. And I mean, all in all, just putting money of 2023, so it was last year, last July. And I mean, all in all, just putting money into lawyers and making sure everything's right
Starting point is 02:31:11 and trying to do it all best, over a million dollars. Over a million dollars. Wow. That's the- There's some barrier to entry in that business. I thought- Oh yeah, I mean, food manufacturing is insane, especially-
Starting point is 02:31:22 Food manufacturing too. Yeah, and we have a big, like extruding licorice is not we could have started with gummies or something in the stand up would have been a couple hundred thousand. But buying an extruder and getting like our wave of boiler, it's a hundred thousand dollar piece of equipment. Like, and it's just for having a match PSI of steam to cook in these big kettles. We could have had a lower barrier to entry, but our production would have been a little bit delayed and we wouldn't have been able to do the weekly flavors and innovate quite as much as we do currently. So to be able to
Starting point is 02:31:52 get to where we wanted to get, it took the barrier to entry was higher than. Seven digits. Wow. Yeah. That is a lot. I'm glad it's doing well. That would have fucking suck if everyone was like, nah. We don't want candy. Yeah, no, it immediately did really well. And like, it's just kind of consistently done better and better and people, I don't know. I'm very grateful that people love it. It's a dream to be able to do it.
Starting point is 02:32:18 So. Do you think you'll ever pivot maybe additional types of candy, little chocolate action? I think chocolate I probably wouldn't go into just because it's like it is harder. Mr. B's he's ruined it kind of for me. Because now now it would be obvious like if there's ever chocolate, it's like obviously it's he's it's feastables.
Starting point is 02:32:38 That's the comment. Like there were I don't know. I just think that one's there's a lot of problems, too, because it melts, you know, so it melts, you know? So it's hard. We're doing everything direct to consumer. So we would have to go right into retail with chocolate, which would be tough. So no chocolate, but maybe like salty snacks, I think, like sunflower seeds
Starting point is 02:32:56 or, you know, things like that. Nut mix is true. Make sure. Where does Mr. Beast's chocolate stack rank for you? Like what's better than it and what's worse than it? So I would say that his peanut butter chocolate bar with the peanut butter in it is very good. And the normal chocolate bar, I prefer Hershey's over it.
Starting point is 02:33:22 But even then, those two American chocolates neck and neck are not good compared to like a Lindt or Ghirardelli or I actually buy chocolate from Godiva's fine. Let's see Santa Barbara chocolate Santa Barbara chocolate. I think this is the right company. Yes, Santa Barbara chocolate, in my opinion, is the best chocolate you can get. I absolutely love Santa Barbara chocolate, in my opinion, is the best chocolate you can get. I absolutely love Santa Barbara chocolate. I buy 100% and I buy their milk chocolate. And that's what I have these little wafers and I eat chocolate like a supplement as well. 100%. Oh yeah, me too, man.
Starting point is 02:34:04 It's really healthy guys. Come on, guys. I've actually got to put in time for my pork rind regimen. Power those down. Did Santa Barbara chocolate? I'm going to order some of this. This looks pretty solid. They got pure cacao cacao powder. You know, as I've gotten older, I really enjoy dark
Starting point is 02:34:28 chocolate more than I ever thought I would as a kid. Like you've, it's just better flavor. Not the, let me not, you know, misconstrue it. Sometimes you see those like 97% cacao dark chocolate things where there's like effectively no sugar in there at all, but a nice like 70 percent cacao. I'll bring that. It still has a little bit of sugar. It still has that nice dark chocolate flavor. That's a solid one. I prefer that to most milk chocolates at this point in my life.
Starting point is 02:34:56 I want to see that thing Richard Ryan did show me the slave labor producing my cacao. That's important to me. I don't want any free trade cacao in there. I want to know that there's pain and misery in my chocolate bar. I want to know that it was earned. You know what I really do like that like nobody I like white chocolate. Like I almost would rather have white chocolates and I don't think it's even real chocolate. I don't think it comes from cocoa beans or anything. Once in a while makes that solid. You know the Hershey's like cookie and cream bar.
Starting point is 02:35:26 It's like white chocolate. Yes, Oreo crumble. That shit's good. Yeah, I haven't had one of those since I was 13. Like those are really, really good. I remember like when I turned 16, I would often stop at the gas station explicitly to get that kind of Hershey's bar, the cookies and cream bar and a big diet.
Starting point is 02:35:44 Dr. Pepper, I was going to I to ask this question like three days ago. When you turned 18 and then 21, did you do any of the things right away that you're suddenly allowed to do at 18 and 21? Yeah, when I was 18, I finally clicked yes that I was old enough to look at porn. I immediately voted. I immediately voted. Immediately? They said, it was possible. It was an online poll, but hey. I voted to vote. They said, sir,
Starting point is 02:36:10 it's 2009. You've missed it by a few months. I think I immediately went and bought some peach cigars from the gas station. I did something like that too. Not with cigars, but like I, maybe I just bought cigarettes. I bought something with tobacco when I turned 18. And then when I turned 21, but like I, maybe I just bought cigarettes. I bought something with tobacco when I turned 18.
Starting point is 02:36:25 And then when I turned 21, I went to, I was in college, I went to Hy-Vee, which is like a Midwest grocery store. And I bought like multiple different bottles and fancy kinds of liquor only to realize like over the next few weeks as I drank it, that like, this shit sucks. Oh, this is so much worse than beer. Like just give me a Bud Light. Like I watched, I did it with Jack Daniels one time. I watched this movie Man on Fire with Denzel Washington and the whole movie he's like an alcoholic ex badass and he's drinking this Jack
Starting point is 02:36:57 Daniels and doing this gun trick. And I was like, that looks so cool. I want a bottle of Jack Daniels. And I went and bought one like the next day, got it home and poured myself a drink, took a sip and never touched it again. I gave the bottle away the next day. I remember that before. I gave the bottle to a girl and then like, I was like, here enjoy, it's a brand new bottle of Jack Daniels.
Starting point is 02:37:19 It's like a shockingly bad liquor. Disgusting. You go into drinking liquor knowing like, all right, this is gonna burn. It's probably not, I'm gonna have to pretend that it's pleasant if I'm sitting around people who are also sipping it, but like Jack Daniels is vile. It's just, I don't know anyone that could sip that and think it's good.
Starting point is 02:37:39 They're all vile to me. Gin, Jack Daniels, whatever that shit, only use me blade drinks. Like every one of them. Yeager, yeah. By the time I'm small. Dude, I, Jen, Jack Daniels, whatever that shit only used me blade drinks. Like every one of them. By the time I'm, I'm dreading this experience. That's why you, like, if you're going to do hard liquor, just do vodka and just get it as cold as humanly possible and just make it quick. Like that's something Kyle does correctly.
Starting point is 02:38:00 The way he, he drinks. I prefer just like drinking beer over a longer period when I'm drinking, but Kyle like will just pour up a four fingers glass of cold vodka and be like, time to drink. And then after he's like. And I'm drunk. All right, mission accomplished. Back to Ty.
Starting point is 02:38:23 Answer your question about doing stuff when you turn 21. Turning 21 didn't mean much for me because my brother turned 21 two years earlier and I used his ID to get my own. I took his birth certificate to the actual DMV, claimed to be him, got a duplicate driver's license, took that duplicate driver's license to the county got a county ID And then he had like an expired credit card a fucking
Starting point is 02:38:51 Health insurance card and I'm like putting them in my wallet. I had a library card Jason Bourne over here I had a whole if you if I were dead There'd be like nine pieces of ID that said I was my brother and one tucked in the back that was my actual own driver's license. And I could go any people, you know, when you're, I didn't look old. So I'd get like double carded all the time. I'm like, what do you need?
Starting point is 02:39:16 Like I'd be frustrated that they dared suggest I wasn't 21, which is exactly the right attitude is this happens all the time. Here's my county ID, a credit card card library card. What else do you need here? You know, I have a health insurance What do you want? And you know, I would go to the casinos go to bars. I didn't like drinking. I just liked being where I wasn't allowed That's crazy that you had a real fake ID. Yes, issued by the DMV. That's awesome. Yeah, I've heard of people having the machine before. People who had stolen a machine before, but it doesn't get any
Starting point is 02:39:55 realer than what you had. That's crazy. How have I lost a story before, but I haven't. I don't remember that one. That's great. You know, I had ideas in a car. This is a chocolate. I don't remember that one. That's great. You know, it's yeah, I had ideas in a call. This is the chocolate I was talking about. Many Taylor on 100% pure.
Starting point is 02:40:12 Pop one of those out of the bag. Let me see what we're looking at here. Tastes like fucking dirt. It's a waif. Oh, no. Well, don't sell it that way. I mean, it tastes like dirt, but it's good. You take this as a bit of a health regimen in conjunction with the
Starting point is 02:40:26 ginger. This right here will, will make you feel like a buzz almost because it's so strong. You know, it's funny when people who don't do drugs say shit like that. This fried chicken is so good. You're going to be floating on air. And it's like, no, I go, dude, this fried chicken is so good. You're going to be floating on air. And it's like, because I'm on, I'm on 40 million. I'm on heroin. I'm on heroin.
Starting point is 02:40:52 People don't understand. I usually take, I'll take like one of the milk chocolate wafers and then I'll eat it with it because I'm a bad boy. Yeah. You get a little, you're a little sour yourself. Yeah. Wow. That's disgusting. You're a little sour yourself, yeah. A little wild. A wild one. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 02:41:08 How old are you, Caleb? Guess. How old do you think I am? It is hard to tell. I think that the beard adds years. I think you're younger than maybe the beard implies. I'm going to throw out 27. I was going to say 25.
Starting point is 02:41:31 We think I'll 2626 I'm 28 OK, can you lost sac remove that you 27 was my guess. Yep. 28 1996 1996 good year. The Olympics in Atlanta that was kindergarten for me 1996 That's a guy falsely accused of laying the bomb planting a yeah. Yeah fucking It's they made the movie about him named after him it's I'm stuck on Ryan and gear and it's it's an R. It's it's an R. It's I'm stuck on Ryan and gear and it's it's an R. It's it's an R. It's No Ruby Ruby something something Ruby anyway
Starting point is 02:42:14 There was a guard there who found a bomb placed at the Olympic Games in Atlanta and he sounded the alarm and probably saved a bunch of lives and They accused him and Richard Jewel. What did I say? Ruby, you could see where my mind was. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But he they accused him and like they ran his name through the gutter and ruined his life.
Starting point is 02:42:36 There's a really good movie about all of that that I I haven't watched it because I know what it's about. It's going to frustrate me because he's just a sweet guy. He's just a regular guy. and they really fucked him up. I think the guy who actually planted the bomb was named Edward Robert Rudolph, maybe? Three first names. Yeah, and he ended up hiding in the,
Starting point is 02:42:59 I think North Carolina, maybe South Carolina, Eric Robert Rudolph, thanks. He hid in the mountains, and he was caught several years later going through the dumpsters of a Burger King or something like that. That's how he was surviving. He'd come down from the mountains. He had bombed an abortion clinic the week before in Alabama, I think, maybe something like that. This is all my childhood memories from the late 90s. So They're a little fuzzy, but that's how that's what I remember that he was like Christian right-wing
Starting point is 02:43:32 Kind of guy. I don't know why the Olympics were in his crosshairs exactly though. Yeah communists Maybe maybe post modernists are out there running around in the Olympics Wish we'd gone we didn't do anything. I watched it on TV Although I don't know if we'd went like what would I have even gone to see I always say that like I say it now I beat that horse to death, but I don't want to go to a sporting event. I just want to watch on TV It's gonna be better So I generally agree I'm thinking of the exceptions. Hockey's often won. Sure.
Starting point is 02:44:06 Yeah. Hockey's great. There's not a lot. Yeah. It's about as fun to watch. Basketball is good. Rodeo would be great. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:14 Yeah. I've never been. Favorite sporting events ever was. Have you guys been to lawnmower races? No. At the county fair. Yes. Have you?
Starting point is 02:44:23 Yeah. My friend took me to lawn mower races and I am like way too city to fit in this environment. Everything about me, my clothes, my posture, like I just didn't fit. But I went there and I was into it. These fuckers were awesome. They took just regular riding mowers that you might have.
Starting point is 02:44:39 There were different categories and they put, I don't know, 80 horsepower engines into these things. They're drifting them sideways around a dirt track and a lawnmower that and the drivers were talented, I could never do what they were doing. And they were different, like, some had wider stances and such, and they were just about sprint cars, somewhere closer to stock, and every category was interesting. Lawnmower races
Starting point is 02:45:01 are dope. And it's dangerous. There's nothing safety about it. Now they're wearing helmets for show, like no full helmets, just like, you know, fucking Harley helmets and shit. They go fast, huh? Like, like 30, 40. Oh, I mean. I would say they were going over 60,
Starting point is 02:45:19 maybe 80 and some of the high end ones, like they did bill cart racing, but. I didn't know that it was a- Whoa, 80 miles an hour on a lawnmower? Just out of the wheelbase, right? Like the ones that looked like lawnmowers that you might have, they were going whatever, 20, 25. But the ones that were like, they got wider stances.
Starting point is 02:45:42 They look like go-karts kind of with go-karts cos of with go-karts cosplaying as lawnmowers. I don't know. Imagine doing that on a zero turn. You'd break your damn neck. Do you have a funny is a racing right now. There's a crash 15 seconds into this video.
Starting point is 02:46:00 Lincoln. It's like, my God, they're not going like crazy fast but they're going fast enough to get hurt. I remember Hank Hill was a lawnmower racer, but he was struggling because his his ass cheek was this is sick That's true. Hank had to get a gluteal support system to sell Earlby, North Carolina Mm-hmm. That's what I thought when I saw it probably your local lawnmower Mm-hmm. That's what I thought when I saw it. Probably your local lawnmower track. You know, I like how this guy fall falls off and everybody else stops to be like,
Starting point is 02:46:29 let's make sure you could be the city slicker that rides into town. And he's like the villain. No, no, you could be the the Jeff Gordon of lawnmower racing. You see that boy? That's the Rainbow Warrior right there. We hate him. Was Jeff Gordon a city slicker? Yeah, well, California. So NASCAR is good old boys sport, Southeast Conference forever. And Jeff Gordon rides in there. He's from California, maybe LA even, probably Southern Cal. And he drives the DuPont car. He is literally the rainbow warrior.
Starting point is 02:47:04 Yeah, skittles. And he doesn't sound like everybody else the DuPont car. He is literally the rainbow warrior. And you know, he doesn't sound like everybody else. So. DuPont's the thing. Of course, right? DuPont's paint. The car had all the different paint colors on it. And I don't think they were going for like an LGBT thing,
Starting point is 02:47:18 but you could see it through that lens. It's pretty gay. His haters saw it through that lens. It is pretty gay. It's like Sherwin Williams paint the world, their logo. If you just look at the Sherwin Williams logo, it's almost threatening. Can we see it? Please show it. It's so good. It's almost like you're going to paint the world. It's like we're going to pollute the world, whether you'd like it or not.
Starting point is 02:47:41 There's a real try to stop us vibe with Sherwin Williams. It could easily be like the emblem for a James Bond villains organization. Like it's rough. I'd be the I'd be the Tony Stewart of lawnmower racing. I think he killed the man, right? That's the joke. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cover the cover the earth with our goop. That, yeah, right.
Starting point is 02:48:07 Paint. But Patel's SWP. Sure, Williams Paint. Fray. See, but they didn't even spell that out because they were so obsessed with the idea of conquering. They paid that though. I can't be the only one who didn't instantly get that.
Starting point is 02:48:24 No, I'm sure. Maybe I am. People out there didn't. But Caleb, I wanted to ask you because you brought up fish tank before the show. Have you been following along watching that? So I haven't. I haven't been following along as much as just seeing who's who's the black guy who jacks off a lot.
Starting point is 02:48:43 Bird. So I yeah, he birds off. I've been seeing jacks off a lot? Or so I he births off. I've been seeing Bert clips, a lot of Bert clips. And the first one was like, oh, they there's a serial killer, a murderer on fish tank. And I was like, that's pretty interesting. And then obviously I just kept scrolling. And then like more and more keeps happening. And I saw him on a maybe it was this morning or last night a rant of him talking about his education.
Starting point is 02:49:05 And like, I don't know what's real. And I don't know. I've just seen some clips on, on TikTok, but yeah, Bert, I like Bert. Yeah. Bert rules that clip you saw about his education. Like the thing with the fan base of Fishtank is that anything anyone on the show says is verified, fact-checked, researched, doxed and posted within 10 seconds. And so when Bert, like Bert got exasperated and I told these guys before, because a lot of people think he's like a retard, like they think
Starting point is 02:49:37 he's like some blithering idiot and he's genuinely not. Like he clearly has a lot of social maladaptive issues and is clearly a sex pest pervert, but he's not dumb. He has a master's degree in applied mathematics or a PhD in applied mathematics. That's not the kind of thing stupid people go into. We're 100% sure on that? Yes. He's a member of Mensa, which it's funny because you need to be high IQ to be a member of Mensa. But you also need to be a bit of a dullard to fall for Mensa in the first place that like you're going to pay to be a member of this thing. And so it's like, yeah, it's like it's a confluence of like supreme intellect and supreme gullibility. And those are the people who end up in that. He's clearly mentally ill. Like, I don't know. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 02:50:25 He's threatened to fuck aggressively every person who's come on the show, every single person. And it's only the fact that he's also goofy that allows it to play off is a bit silly, because if he was like a normal person behaving the way he does sexually to terrifying, it would immediately be like, this guy's a terrifying, terrifying, aggressive predator. Yeah. Hmm. That clip you said earlier, um, is it's comedy gold the way it's edited because a white guy was, is walking into a bedroom. He looks, he looks busy.
Starting point is 02:50:57 I don't think we can show that video. He, the, the masturbation one. Um, but the white guy's walking through the house and he looks busy like he's going to like find his other sock or something And as he rounds the corner and walks into the bathroom we cut to camera two and it's just burp Masturbating furiously like you can see everything like you can see his stroke and like this dude immediately. It's just Jesus christmas Like just walks away and you can tell.
Starting point is 02:51:31 Dude, he was the man that was. He's numb to it now. He's not the first time. That was the same guy who I showed you that clip the other day where he walks in there with Bert into a secluded room and the white guy is like, Bert, you're on the outs, but we're trying to bring you back in with the boys. We need to get the votes on our side.
Starting point is 02:51:48 So are you gonna keep playing with the girls as kind of a double agent? Are you gonna finally come to the boys team? And then Bert's like, I don't understand what you're talking about. I thought you asked me in here so we could hook up. And then the guy's like, Bert, what the fuck is wrong with you, man? Just
Starting point is 02:52:07 exasperated because if you just, if you just see that one clip, you might think that was the one time he was doing that. He's been trying to fuck everyone the whole time. The whole time. He hasn't fucked anyone yet. He's birded off. This guy has, he's birded off every six hours for five weeks. It's like three times a day. On TV. You know what I would do if I were Sam? Like three times a day.
Starting point is 02:52:29 At the end, when you've got like your winner, if I remember correctly last season, he paid a couple people, like maybe, maybe gold, silver, and even a bronze. Like he gave everybody a little cash, he splashed it around a bit. Like if Burt doesn't win some cash, he should, they should have counted how many times
Starting point is 02:52:44 he birded off and gave him like five bucks each time. Oh yeah. Dude, Burt's gonna... I'm hoping he wins. He's so fucking funny. He blows the... As far as just looking at it from a content perspective, sure he's a creep and he's kind
Starting point is 02:53:00 of a sex pest, but just purely content focused. He's so far and away the funniest. Kevin Spacey colored glasses. I see. Kevin Spacey colored glasses if you want to call it that. Yeah, because he's just so funny. He's great. They tricked him today into like some Trump impersonator called on the phone and Alex Stein was like, Trump is here to talk and encourage you. And Bert was like, fuck you. I don't even like
Starting point is 02:53:25 you. I don't believe that you're Trump. And I don't know. I don't trust you. And then like, within 30 minutes, they had him, Bert in the confessional, like wearing a MAGA hat being like, I was misled. I had no idea that was Donald Trump. And I now I'm understanding that he tweeted about it. And a lot of people are upset at me. And what I'm here to say is I don't actually even know anything about politics. I'm more into sex and just straight up. He's like, I don't follow politics. I don't know anything about it. And so I just need you to take everything I've said with a grain of salt. And I hope I didn't upset anyone too much. He has this, people with schizoaffective disorder have like rapid fast-paced speech in bursts and so that's often how they talk
Starting point is 02:54:14 and so you can tell he's doing it. If it comes out that he's faking or putting this on at the end of it, like Daniel Day Lewis needs to come and take lessons from him in all sincerity, because if he's faking this, it's the greatest acting performance of all time. Nothing comes close. Now there's no chance he's faking it. He's doing this. I have something to admit.
Starting point is 02:54:39 I've been jacking off only twice a day. I told you. I've been jacking off only twice a day. Yeah, I've been jacking off only twice a day. I told you. One of these was just for show. He was jacking off and then fucking Alex Stein came to him pretending to be the executive producer from like NBC and was like, Bert, are you coming? Are you climaxing on screen? Because we can't show that. And he's like, no, I have been burning off, but I haven't been coming.
Starting point is 02:55:02 I've just been gooning. Just use the word gooning and see what Caleb posted like that's gonna be it he's pulling the Kaiser so say oh he's kind of burr walking out of the tank with $50,000 man that would be great I fucking hope Bert wins big big shout out to Bert, that fucking weirdo. He's great. They couldn't have lucked into a better person for a show like this. There's no possible way to luck into someone better
Starting point is 02:55:36 from a content perspective than Bert. He's incredible. It's not luck, this one, but Frank Frank Castle as much as I think he is a force for it. Remember how I said if Mr. Beast was removed from the world, the world would get a little bit worse. I feel the opposite way about Frank Castle. Oh no, Frank's a good boy. He's just goofing around. He's not. He's a terrorist. But he's really good at this. He's good for the show too. What's funny with Frank is he will harass the shit
Starting point is 02:56:11 out of someone on the show. And then as soon as the show's, Mizzie was this girl who was on the show who was taking a huge amount of shit. And she did the thing that like ends up garnering you a huge amount of respect and approval from the fan base afterward, which is, she was one of those like, yeah, just rain it on me. Go fuck yourself. Like indignant. And after
Starting point is 02:56:30 the show, she and Frank did like a call, like a stream together. And he's just the most normal, nice guy. And he's like, oh, yeah, I really got you when I poured all that stuff all over your suitcase and I wouldn't move. And she's like, oh yeah, that really bothered me. And then he'll say like, yeah, you know, something that bothered me is how you stabbed me in the lower back twice with a pen. And she's like, well, it wasn't a full pen. It was like a felt pen.
Starting point is 02:57:00 And it's like, no, like you stabbed me. And she's like, yeah, well, that's how it goes. And he's like, yeah, 100%. I accept that. I was fucking with you. I always expect people to fuck with me back. And I was really impressed by how resilient you were. Like it was interesting to see Frank totally out of character and just being like, damn, I was really harassing you. You were ballsy. You pushed back. You fought back. You harassed me as hard as I harassing you. You were ballsy. You pushed back. You fought back. You harassed me as hard as I harassed you. You literally hurt me more
Starting point is 02:57:30 than I hurt you physically by stabbing me. Like nothing but respect there. And she's also now like on the team of like, it's funny. And so it just, it depends, I guess, interpersonally how you roll with it. Because from what I see, like, it's very normal for people to get the hell harassed out of them on Fish Tank, especially by Frank.
Starting point is 02:57:51 Because Frank is the gauntlet. When Frank shows, and they're bringing Frank back. Again, when Frank shows up, it's like, all right, how are these guys gonna handle this? And the people that get the most respect afterwards aren't the people who just like? Stoically take it and pretend it's not happening. They're the people that are like no Frank You're a big disgusting fucking monster and I'm coming for you. Like I'm gonna ruin your stuff
Starting point is 02:58:16 I'm gonna anything you have in this house. I'm gonna He'll live there for like a four-day stretch and it's like a Character that dropped in like Sam Gold day. I thought he was a character that dropped in like Sam Goldstein, I might have that wrong. But no, Sam and Jet, like the producers, they'll come in every day. Frank is like a, literally like a gauntlet character they bring in, in the middle of every single season.
Starting point is 02:58:37 Because usually by that point, the fish are like friends and they're now not really rivals. And so he comes in as a way to throw agitation in the mix and get people all fucked up. And then the people who survive his horse shit come out like hardened steel. I don't think anyone could do that as well as Frank. Like he's uniquely qualified for that job.
Starting point is 02:58:59 I- The tattoo? Dude, like when a girl harasses him and, have you seen his tattoo, Caleb? Do you know Frank Castle? I have not, no. I don't know much about this fella. Can you bring up a picture of the funniest tattoo you've ever done?
Starting point is 02:59:11 Frank Castle is the guy, you may remember him as that. He's the one that went to Boogie's place. Yep. That's what I know about him and that's it. He's very funny. When you see his tattoo, your opinion of him will not get better. It's the funniest tattoo that's ever been inked. There's nothing from the internet.
Starting point is 02:59:28 I don't consider myself easily offended or shocked. I watch murder videos for fun. This tattoo, I was like, how could you? Yeah, it's like ditto all that. It's the perfect confluence of like a depiction of an event, but also the total trivialization of it through cartoon people. This is a this is his back. I've seen that before.
Starting point is 02:59:52 Yeah, that's him. That's Frank Castle. And so like in the middle of the show, like people on text to speech will say stuff like show him the tattoo and you can tell production and Frank are all like, shut the fuck up. Like you're going to ruin the reveal. The best way that it got revealed was this season where he was actively fighting, like throwing stuff, not, not physically punching or anything, but everyone's throwing like food fighting at each other.
Starting point is 03:00:15 And then some girl like grabs the back of his shirt and just rip, rip, rip, trying to harass him. And then he's just like barely got a string of a shirt on and he's turning around and you can see the girls in the back go like just like shocked at what they're seeing that's a 9-eleven tattoo with beheaded cartoon people jumping to their death that's yeah that's so funny big shout out to frank nassal that was the the first fish tank clip I saw from this season was that one That's how I knew that they were back in business because I just saw people fighting You know on unlike public freakout read it or something and then the shirt getting ripped and I was like that's Frank fucking hassle
Starting point is 03:00:59 I know that tattoo anywhere. That's yeah, there's only one there's only one. That would be. I thought you were gonna head to the comments. The guy said something like maybe Calla, correct me, like, you know, I don't know the background on this, but I'm pretty sure he's the bad guy in this situation. It was something close to that. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, the comment was, said something like I could tell who the instigator was in this just from the tattoo or something. It's the worst tattoo I've ever seen. Like Steve-O tried to make like silly, awful tattoos. The amateur Frank Castle is the master, the absolute master. The fact that it goes from like neck to ass crack. That's crazy.
Starting point is 03:01:40 And the way he's just walking around shirtless with a 9-11 tattoo and he's like 6'5". And he always is smoking a cigarette in the house. And so he'll just walk up to contestants and be like, why are you acting so bothered? Like what's the deal? Just like right in their face upsetting them. And then like that gets repaid in kind because they hand out cigarettes to everyone. And so like girls will be smoking cigarettes and then just go like with the hot ember
Starting point is 03:02:09 and put it out on him. They put cigarettes out on him? And he'll just like, he doesn't respond to any pain he feels on the show. He'll get stabbed, he'll get cigarettes put out on him. Like he genuinely takes it worse than he gives it. Is he like a Terminator? Yeah, you don't get that reference to you.
Starting point is 03:02:25 I get it. Yeah, mostly. He is like he's like, you know, without a cigar in the Terminator's chest. Al's reference. But he doesn't know. Oh, yeah. That's pretty good. It's it's pretty funny because like, say, or Frank is this huge guy. And then Sam will come in and he's even bigger than Frank
Starting point is 03:02:46 and Sam is also like Sam wears like boots with lifts with a giant top hat. And so he's like he's just the biggest guy in the world. Just like marching and these people who are like nutrient deprived. It's hilarious that a guy who's 6'5", wears lifts in his shoes. Oh yeah, he'll like, he's like made clips before he's like, yeah, I'm 6'5", but I identify as 6'9". And then just wears giant boots and harasses people. It's like such a new kind of entertainment, like a real style of reality show with that addition of TTS and meanness and brutality. Do you think people will keep stepping it up every year? Do you think like as it becomes more and more successful,
Starting point is 03:03:34 like well next season? Because what I wanna see isn't a crueller show. It's more production value and more structure. Like I want to see, I don't want to feel like it's like, hey, what do you want to do to them today? I don't know. Let's send a Billy goat in. We're saving the goat for the last day.
Starting point is 03:03:55 What are you thinking? No, we don't send the Billy goat in. Do you know what's gonna happen to that goat when Burt meets it? I didn't mean to fuck the goat. I just, it happened. Didn't mean to fuck the goat. I just, it happened. Didn't mean to burt off. Yeah. The way it's worked in the first three seasons now is if anything, it's gotten a little less intense, like where they're going easy.
Starting point is 03:04:15 Like that's a big criticism that a lot of the fans are having this season is they're like, Oh, they're coddling too many of the contestants. They're coddling them. And it's like, oh, they're coddling too many of the contestants. They're coddling them. And it's like, yeah, maybe compared to like season two, where it was like, all right, we're doing the cell challenge. All nine of you stay in this room. No bathroom breaks, no nothing. There's a bucket in the in the sliding door closet to shit and piss in. And how long can you survive in here while doing wacky challenges? Like at the end of that one in season two, the winner was like openly weeping, like he'd won a war where he was like, it's over,
Starting point is 03:04:53 it's over because of how horrid it was. And so now like, it almost seems like what you're saying where they are trying to mitigate it more and make it more, cause you can't go crazy hell house constantly. What do you get for winning? 50,000. No, no, no, the, that particular cell challenge,
Starting point is 03:05:13 did you get 50 grand for that? Oh, I think that, so like a 50 K is the end goal, but like there's a bunch of challenges with monetary payments throughout the way. So I think maybe they got $10,000 for winning that cell challenge specifically. And then they do stuff like fish bucks where it's like hey Josie five fish bucks which is $500 like five fish bucks if you go piss all over John's Bible that he brought and then she she'll be like, okay, like, I'll go do this.
Starting point is 03:05:49 I'd have done it for less. Yeah. I asked because like that guy is damaged at the end of winning that, right? Emotionally exhausted, I don't know what. The ultimate fighter, this was a MMA show that Dana White had on. And I remember one of their challenges was this.
Starting point is 03:06:03 One guy stood like sort of solid, and the other guy climbed around him and like did, I don't know how to describe it, but like, you know, I'd start like baby Bjorn, go to your back, go to your front. That's one revolution. We're doing this as many revolutions as we can. And by the time these guys circled the other person,
Starting point is 03:06:23 like 74 times, they're both wrecked. One's all caught up his skin, he's exhausted. He's had another man using his thighs and his hips and his shoulders for like, grips and footholds. And then of course, the guy doing the actual climbing around, he's exhausted too. Both of them are ruined, they can hardly train, but they did 73 revolutions. And they started with a shirt on, that shit's all ripped and torn to shreds and gone, and they're just ruined. And then the next team climbs up.
Starting point is 03:06:59 They just slide down and say, nevermind. And they're like, so the Victor got choosing your opponent and they're like, ah, I'll take either one of those folks. They're ruined. It was a good strategy. So it just made me ask like, what is this worth it? Yeah. If anything, like the production steps in to protect people like Burt sometimes. Like this just happened maybe yesterday or something where they brought in some new guy, this like really big Persian motherfucker. And they told him to like make content, like be entertaining, like just like they told everyone who came in. And that guy like identified Burt as like the most mentally unstable, easiest person
Starting point is 03:07:43 to make content out of. And so he was like bullying Burt in a mean way, like getting in his face, trying to agitate him. And literally everyone on production came up like out of the basement where they produce and was like, the fuck are you doing? Like, are you retarded? Do you realize that like Burt's actually autistic? Do you think you're like winning fans by actively bullying a guy with mental disorders? And Burt is like in the background this whole time, just the most wide-eyed, like staring at random stuff. Like he's not even engaged in the conversation.
Starting point is 03:08:16 He's just like, and like gibbering as he's doing it. And they're like, look at this guy. You think he's like, you think you're like winning people by bullying him? The reason people like him is because he's endearing. And so you're really not gaining any fans by bullying this guy. Do you see that? So if you come at Bert again, we're gonna fuck you up. And this guy was like, oh, you're gonna take me? He was drunk. He was like, oh, so he's a big guy. Oh, I could take all four of you jets. Like really? Because in the boxing challenge last night, you couldn't take one guy.
Starting point is 03:08:51 You lost to one guy in the boxing challenge last night. You're gonna, you're going to take all of us who beat him. He lost to us. Uh, the guy who, uh, walked in on Burt going, Oh Jesus Christ. They boxed. Yeah. That guy was no joke. Also Jesus Christmas. Okay, they boxed. Yeah that guy was no joke also Yeah, that guy was no joke that guy beat the shit out of him. And so he just like That Persian guy turned his attention from that guy who beat him up towards Burt and was just going at him way too hard Agitating agitating agitating and you can't just let that happen And so they do come up all the time and sometimes Burt will get too
Starting point is 03:09:23 Exasperated and they'll literally say like, Hey, Bert, bedroom three, text to speeches off, take a chill pill, take a nap. Nobody's going to bother you. You need anything. You let us know. And so they, they do stuff like that, which they don't do for any other contestant, obviously, because there's no other contestant that has his mental disability. Okay.
Starting point is 03:09:43 Very entertaining. It's the most wild, out of left field reality show of all time. It's addicting because you'll watch the live stream and nothing will happen for an hour. And then something will happen and shit will kick off. And Bert will be like screaming at some girl contestant because he perceived something she said as like anti-gay or whatever,
Starting point is 03:10:08 because he's a very proud gay man. What state are they in? I think they're in Massachusetts or Delaware, somewhere in the Northeast. I don't actually know where. It's like a $1.5 million mansion. It's like a big place they're filming. That's so opposite of what would make sense to me.
Starting point is 03:10:23 Like I'd want to be in like Texas or Tennessee with the cheapest place possible. I think they did that for season one and they changed it up. It's better this season with the mansion. Why is the mansion better? Cause I would imagine having them in like a chicken farm would be good. Or I guess it's better for them. It's better for the vibe because there would
Starting point is 03:10:47 be no way to sell to these people that they were on a Hulu show called Famous House unless they were in a mansion. That's why all of them bought into it. I don't know if Caleb knows the way these people were lied. The way these people were lied into this show is they told them you're going to be on a Hulu program called famous house where it's like Hulu's attempt to compete with big brother where a bunch of people who want to be famous are gonna be in a house and you compete and then at the very end the winner becomes the protege of Jason Gold who is Sam Hyde dressed like Bam Margera And is Sam Hyde dressed like Bam Margera.
Starting point is 03:11:27 And that's the premise. It's insane. It's hysterical. It's so fucking funny. I like when I see novel unique stuff like this actually succeed instead of just going by the wayside. Like it's the funniest reality show I've ever seen. And it's actually real. Like there's no editing.
Starting point is 03:11:44 There's no nothing. You see everything. And it's actually real. Like there's no editing. There's no nothing. You see everything. Go on an edited version. I'd like to see them turn it into a show that would fit my style of watching content. Yeah. Like if they had showrunners and a bunch of producers and time before it aired. So it'd be interesting. So first, a post show, they do YouTube uploads of more Big Brother style, like episodes for the whole season. And so you can just watch.
Starting point is 03:12:08 I don't watch. Do they do they do like a is there any concept where they vote for like who needs to be out of the house or punished? But it's total horse shit because sometimes they will just change votes. Oh, like one one contestant today, this random girl who was like kind of not making good content being a bit boring. She found an immunity idol. She found like one of those things from survive. They hide random stuff and notes around the house. A lot of them are just like schizo notes to
Starting point is 03:12:39 try and hide notes and like idols around the house. And this girl found an idol and she showed production and she was like, I found this. And Vance was like, that's an immunity idol. Keep that in your bag. Don't let anyone steal that. And literally 10, 15 minutes later, Vance, the production came back in and he goes, hey, this is all on me.
Starting point is 03:13:05 I understand if you're mad, that's not an immunity idol. That's an elimination idol. Please, please pack your things and go immediately. And she was like, wait, what? And he's like, it's an elimination idol. I need you to go. And so this girl just at like 2 p.m. on a Wednesday is like packing her
Starting point is 03:13:27 shit and the other contestants like what happened and she's like I don't know I found an elimination idol like I don't know what to do with this information and so it's just it's flying by the seat of their pants which is part of why it's endearing. I get that and if that's the magic to it then they should keep it but to me I need some structure. I need that. And if that's the magic to it, then they should keep it. But to me, I need some structure. I need, I need to know that at the end of every episode, we're going to have a vote at the beginning of episode, there's going to be this initial challenge. It's going to be physical, followed by like whatever. And then there'll be a second challenge. That'll be more mental or gamesmanship. Like I do like the survivor formula if there is one there
Starting point is 03:14:05 I just don't like how that it I think survivor is Too heavily programmed like like too heavily scripted which is I want more of that for fish tank I think I but you can't go too far or you completely lose me if it's not that Authenticity of having somebody burning off is huge. Like that to me is so weird and wild. I wonder if they have enough contestants to do like a champion show and all stars. A fish tank all stars. They could do that, but part of the issue with it
Starting point is 03:14:42 is like a lot of the humor comes from people who don't know what's going on being put in that scenario and so it's happened a couple times this season where they cast new people to come in and be freeloaders and like one guy came in and within like 20 minutes because they take your phone when you come in because you're not allowed any outside contact they let me brought this guy in they had his his phone downstairs. His phone started blowing up with messages about Fishtank. And so they literally bought him a ticket on a flight home like immediately. They were like, all right, Braden, welcome to the house. Went downstairs,
Starting point is 03:15:16 saw that he knew about the show and were like, Braden, you've been eliminated. Like he didn't even meet other contestants. And so like a huge amount of it is just seeing how people respond to it, not knowing. And so it's a difficult thing to make sure nobody sniffs it. In that interest, I almost want to recruit from immigrants or something. Like I want some guy who's in the US for the summer and like barely, he's here to learn English from Slovakia or some shit. Like I want that. Yeah. I really like the idea of a motley crew. Like fish out of water. Do you? I want some older people to like, imagine if there was a 55 year old man in there who didn't want to take it. There's a 60 year old black woman in there right now. Are you kidding me? Yeah,
Starting point is 03:15:58 they brought her in her name star and I like her. Star is funny. She's like the mom of the house. I would bring in a, I would bring in a homeless person. Um, and it'd be a prize for determining who the homeless person was. Like, like there's a scene. It'd be like a mini game called secret hobo. If you could find the hobo by the end, you get some, some Burt bucks or whatever they're doing. Um, Bert, that's what they should do. They next season, if Burt wins, he should come back as like a challenge
Starting point is 03:16:26 rather than a contestant. And you could win some Bert bucks if you like cohabitate with Bert. Like, all right, there are two rooms in the new house. There are 18 contestants. 17 of you will be sleeping in room number A and one of you will be sharing room number B with Bert. There's one bed, one bathroom, one towel.
Starting point is 03:16:46 Dude, I don't know how they could bring Burt back and not immediately off put everyone else in the house because like it's literally just his mental issues and bizarre cadence that makes him not the most creepy, ghoul imaginable. Like he, any man, like if you went into the house as a contestant, Kyle, within five seconds, he would be arm around you, getting close, talking to you about whether or not you've ever had sex with a guy before. Like he, he's a, he's a predator. He literally,
Starting point is 03:17:21 yesterday they were asking him, they were like, so Bert, like, uh, Alex Stein, the, the big booty Latina AOC guy, he was very funny. And he was like, so Bert, it's casual conversations like Bert. So like, uh, you're out on the town all the time. This was after Bert admitted to fucking 300 guys. And Alex is like, so like, so you're just out and about, like, but you don't drink or do anything like that. So like, what do you do? And Burt's like, yeah, something I've found is that when I am out and about with other gay men, a lot of them enjoy alcohol
Starting point is 03:17:55 and drugs immensely, and I am not into alcohol or drugs. And so what I've noticed is that once they get drunk, I can convince them to do things that they would not do otherwise. And I see that as a benefit because I go out with these men and they get drunk and I do not and that allows me to control the situation. And Alex was literally like, Burt, that's fucked, man. Do you not see that you're getting men drunk and having maybe sex with them when they don't want? And Burt's like, I really don't see it that way. I see them as adult men who make their own decisions
Starting point is 03:18:38 and if they decide to get drunk and whatever is a result of that, it is what happens. Oh, wow. Burt's a libertarian. B Bert is, he's a ghoul. He's despicable in his sexual behavior, but hilarious. And so, you know, what am I gonna do? Is he in jail? Is he medicated?
Starting point is 03:18:57 Yes, yeah. He medicated. This is the medicated version of him. Okay. Yes. So he's taking like lithium and like anti-psychotic drugs and stuff seemingly. But it doesn't seem to be taking. Or it is taking. Like you have no idea what non-medicated Burt would be like. That's fair. Yeah. There'd be no idea. But he kills me. He is so fucking funny. The stuff he will say just in passing, like, hey, introduce yourself to
Starting point is 03:19:27 the other members of the house. And he's like, I sometimes will hurt myself sexually because it turns me on. And it's like, that's what you lead with to a new person, Bert, that you like to hurt yourself sexually to get off. And he just doesn't get it. He doesn't. Yeah. Bert rules. He doesn't. Yeah. Bert rules. Big shout out to Bert. Keep having fun at the gay sex clubs, getting guys drunk. Let me ask you this, Taylor. Would Bert make an interesting guest on the show?
Starting point is 03:19:55 Could we have a Bert here and deal with him and have any fun of it? 60 seconds. I've thought about that. 60 seconds. Yeah. If we could do, it would be tough because conversationally, I don't know how much we could get out of it. It's more of like, it's his behavior that's hilarious and his unwitting verbal jokes. Like he doesn't know he's making jokes. They literally, they told him on the show today, like some TTS was like, Bert, we like you, but please make more jokes and less things about sex. And he's like, I don't know what any of you are talking about. I haven't made a single joke since I've been here.
Starting point is 03:20:33 This has been the most stressful situation in my life. And all of you are bullying me over not being funny. And meanwhile, I'm just, I haven't even had sex in six weeks now. And I'm just trying to, and even when I put off, all of you guys are telling me that that's wrong. And so I don't know what you want of me. What do you want of me? And it's like, and then like the next TTS will be like, Burt, have you noticed there are 11 people now in the house, 11 laws of Solomon, 11 eras of the Ming dynasty. Are you not putting it together yet? And he's like, well, I haven't fully considered this. Let me write it down. And so, like, he's like, he'll sometimes like pull a
Starting point is 03:21:11 notebook up and just be sitting there and text to speech is saying stuff like, Burt, the Federal Reserve was created in 1913. 13, the unlucky number 13 divided into the tribes of Judah. And he's like, I don't understand what you're saying, but I'm trying to put the pieces together. One, you said in the other show that got to me was like, Bert, you're getting so close. How have you not checked this woman's plushies yet? I guess she had like prize toys or something. And so she's sleeping in bed and he's trying to steal her like sleeping stuffed
Starting point is 03:21:54 animals. It's so fun. This, whatever this is, I don't know. There's, there's no mystery. Like literally production has had to before they started the second half of the series where they were like, Hey guys, we're going to invite new people and your job is now to be, you know, you know, passe about it and allow them to think you're also new. And they had to go up to Bert in the penthouse when he was having like a
Starting point is 03:22:16 schizo rambling hour and be like Bert, none of these clues and things you're investigating are real. None of this is real. This show is called Fish Tank, and it's a reality show where we have cameras and we, you know, make jokes and bits out of the things that are occurring on the screen. So when people arrive here tomorrow, please don't talk about any of these theories you have. Please, because it's going to identify you as someone who's been here longer than them and they're immediately gonna know that the jig is up. And he's like, yes, I understand. 100%. And they're like, do you really understand though, Bert? Or are you just telling
Starting point is 03:22:55 me what I want to hear? And he's like, I 100% understand. And I will abide by these restrictions. And they're like, okay. they leave immediately looking at the camera. He's like, so Ben, producer Ben just came in and told me that none of the clues that I'm looking through, I have any relevance moving forward, but I think that might actually be an intention of preventing me from researching this further. And it's just him doing like that. It's so funny. Hilarious. Big shout outs to Burt, the black sex best. How much more time is left?
Starting point is 03:23:31 Like how long until we- Two weeks. There's two more weeks. Yeah. And so we'll see what happens. I'm hoping for Burt. If it's not a Burt win, I'm gonna be very disappointed. Like no one else has,
Starting point is 03:23:42 you earn it through the content you create and no one has earned it as much as they just choose who they want to win. So I would guess Burt's going to win. I hope so. I hope it's not that blue haired bitch banks cause she hasn't made any content at all so far. So why are you worried about her? Why is she the threat to Burt? It's well,
Starting point is 03:24:04 she was shitty to him where she lied to Bert a few days ago and said, Bert, this new guy sexually assaulted me or like assault, not sexually, but like he assaulted me. And then Bert, like he sometimes spazzes out and he sees this Binks lady as someone he's been with for the past month. And so he went in there and was like, why were you assaulting Binks? That is an inappropriate thing. And I'm not okay with you behaving that way. And the other guy was like, go fuck yourself, dude. I didn't touch her. What are you talking about? Like, I didn't do anything to this girl. I don't know this blue haired girl. None of us do. We're all new here. And so Burt challenged that guy to box because boxing is how they settle things in fish tank often. And so they boxed, but Burt has fake muscle implants and isn't athletic. And so this like little guy beat him up pretty, pretty bad.
Starting point is 03:24:59 Not like letting you rain blows on someone, but like it was a clear fight win the other guy had over Burt. And then right after that, and the reason Burt got in the fight was to defend this perceived slight to this woman's honor. And then he goes back in the kitchen and that same woman who goaded him to fight on her behalf then realized the tone of the TTS had changed and they wanted her to like be mean. And so she started, she took eggs out of the fridge and started egging Burt, just throwing eggs at him being like, Burt,
Starting point is 03:25:29 you're a weirdo pervert. And Burt was like having a meltdown where he's like, I don't understand why you're upset with me. I just defended you. I attempted to defend you against someone who assaulted you. And I believe what you said. And, but now I'm indicating that he didn't assault you and you tricked me. And like going like having a little bit of a, a serious meltdown while she's egging him. And then she was like, pour this yogurt on your head to show that you're wrong. And he was like, I don't understand why I'm doing this, but I guess if it makes you happy. And so like he's doing that. And then literally after that, like production
Starting point is 03:26:03 came up and was like, Burt, let's get you rinsed off. Let's get you up to bedroom three. We're going to chill out. Rest of the night, no text to speech, chilling out. You're doing great. And Burt was still worried. He was like, but is this going to impact my ability to compete moving forward with the rest of the group? And they're like, no, you chill, do whatever you want. If you want something from us, you let us know, just call out for production. If I'm production, my sense of justice
Starting point is 03:26:32 is not being met here. I wanna be like, Bert, this woman did you wrong. She lied to you, she tricked you, she egged you, she's abusive to you. We settle things through boxing around. So I got to take this fucking whore gloves and I'm going to give you seven and a half minutes. I suppose I can do it. Dude, I totally agree. When I saw that I was like, how could you do this to my boy, Bert?
Starting point is 03:27:07 How could you abuse him this way? He's just a good home, Ghana immigrant, homosexual, who's trying to live his life in a really deviant, horrible way a lot of times. I wonder how they found him. Like I know they like did multiple things to find contestants. I wonder specifically like what he's got him into that house. I think they saw his business card and immediately were like, he's going to be on the show. Yeah. Because his business card says it's like him with a baseball bat shirtless and then under it it says
Starting point is 03:27:46 like Burt Obang or whatever his name is and it's like Black Dom, porn star, genius, 160 IQ, athlete, gay, just a ridiculous list of descriptors of this gentleman. Let me try and find Burt's. I think you sent a picture of it. I remember seeing him maybe with the baseball bat or something like that to find out that those muscles were fake was shocking because they don't look fake. Yes.
Starting point is 03:28:18 Yeah, it was obvious they were fake the first time he stepped in the boxing. Isn't that expensive? Like, is that $25,000 worth of muscles he's got? He's wealthy. He's not a he's not struggling for money. How did he make his money again? I forgot. I don't know what his job is. Yeah, I think he does well or makes some money from his porn thing. But he also maybe like a computer programmer.
Starting point is 03:28:45 I don't know. Like he's a very smart guy. And apparently because all, anytime you're a contestant on Fishtank, you get doxxed immediately because like, there's no more thorough group of people than like 4chan guys. Like no one can find stuff faster than those dudes.
Starting point is 03:29:00 And so they immediately find it. And they found out that like, oh wow, this contestant isn't a huge amount of debt. This contestant isn't a huge amount of debt. And so they immediately find it and they found out that like, oh wow, this contestant isn't a huge amount of debt. This contestant is in a huge amount of debt. This contestant, Bert is actually loaded, like pretty well. And he, and Bert has said before, if he wins, he wants to split the money with some other contestants that he likes.
Starting point is 03:29:21 Cause he says he doesn't care about the 50k because that's not a big deal to him. And so anyway, we've we've lingered on fish tank too long, but very funny show. I encourage everyone fish tanked out live. Check it out. Very funny. Oops, he'll be bored. One one second. I got to type this out.
Starting point is 03:29:41 I'll meet myself. Yeah, I actually have a call with a dude in Australia for a bunch of marketing shit that I've just spent like a lot of money on. So I need to send this really quickly. It is. Yeah, we've never spent any money on marketing. So we're going to start with like advertising campaigns on meta and Google ads and all that stuff. campaigns on meta and Google ads and all that stuff? I'm not, not yet.
Starting point is 03:30:07 No, I thought you were going to be the real one. I'm a Sigma. I've got the Sigma grindset like Gary Vee. I think, I think people make fun of me when they say that he says that, but Gary V, yeah. Okay. If people don't know Gary V, he's pretty neat. He's really, really ambitious. His goal is to own the New York Jets. Oh, that's cool. Could have aimed a little higher, but okay.
Starting point is 03:30:37 I don't know if he still says that, but Amy, I thought it was kind of bold to repeatedly and vocally claim that he wanted to own the New York Jets. Like that's hard to achieve. Even if you have the money, you can't just buy a team. You have to be like accepted to buy a team. Yeah. But I wouldn't bet against him.
Starting point is 03:30:57 It could happen. I think Mark Cuban tried to buy an NFL team years ago and they were like, no. Like, I don't know how. He's one of the better basketball owners. Here's a fun Mark Cubanism to me. Of course there's a cap on how much you can pay all your players.
Starting point is 03:31:16 If you pay your players more than that, then first you have to pay luxury tax, but then after that, when you get to what's called the second apron, it impacts your ability to do trades and drafts. Like it hurts your team to pay the players more than that. So his stadium, or I don't know, where are they, arena that they play in,
Starting point is 03:31:34 first of all, it's really dope and it's luxury. And the locker room gets like high level catering, really good food, food that like better than weddings, like they get high end lovely food. And the visiting team gets the same thing that the home team, the Mavericks get, because he wants every other player to know what it's like to be a Dallas Maverick.
Starting point is 03:31:57 So that come trade time, they're like, they got the dopest private jet, they got private chefs in the locker room, they have the nicest locker, they have this, like it is a luxury experience to play for Dallas. And these are things that aren't included in the salary cap. It's funny. I was on a YouTube short. Some I don't know players names, but some player was talking about getting traded and he's in the new place. And he's like, we finished morning practice and I was like, right, where's brunch? They were like, what the fuck, what you talking about? Brunch, you didn't bring a snack?
Starting point is 03:32:29 He's like, I was used to a catered brunch. Do you know where he came from? I don't know where he came from, but they were sitting into the snack machines. I like listening to Mark Cuban talk. I think he often has a lot of good ideas. Yeah, we'll stop there. I like his food with Trump. I like that.
Starting point is 03:32:54 Okay. I like that they clearly genuinely dislike each other. And I'm sure each of them thinks that they're a real billionaire or real businessman and the other is not their version of a real businessman or whatever, and they clearly just dislike each other. I like that. What's the start of that hate between them? Does it go back a long time?
Starting point is 03:33:15 I don't know the genesis of it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't have something to do with the TV stuff, because they're both like businessmen, moguls in the TV industry. And Trump has always been the kind of guy to rub it in your face if you fail at something. So I remember some letter he wrote to somebody and it was it was like, you know, I'm sorry your show was like, you know, so pathetic and such a failure because I guess no one wanted to watch you. Hopefully now they've got a new host over there. It will be a success once again.
Starting point is 03:33:46 Here's the note that Trump sent on Gold Letterhead in 2004 to Mr. Mark Cuban. Dear Mark, I am truly sorry to hear that your show has been canceled for lack of ratings. When I initially called you to congratulate you on the benefactor, little did you or I realize how disastrous and embarrassing it would turn out to
Starting point is 03:34:05 be for you. If you ever decide to do another show, please call me and I will be happy to lend a helping hand. With best wishes, Donald Trump." Just billionaire shit talk back and forth. It's kind of one direction, but okay. Oh, no, I was just thinking maybe he sent him some digs. I know, I've seen Cuban recently is like, hate Trump. Yeah, he campaigned, I think on Kamala's behalf, I had to think to pronounce it right. He campaigned on Kamala's behalf this time and he got second place. A lot of people wish they did. Nice, silver. Silver medal. Yes, yes. On bronze. and he got second place a lot of people wish they did just say silver silver
Starting point is 03:34:45 metal yes I'm sure she'll be the second most powerful person next to yeah fucking Jill Stein over the bronze nobody even talks about Jill Stein and her bronze right I don't know I don't know what that woman believes about anything isn't she green party Does that mean like hyper environment? But Taylor, she's a Russian puppet. OK, it's all that matters. What does she do? I don't know, probably war in Ukraine. I'm everybody.
Starting point is 03:35:12 She was photographed with Putin, but I don't know that that means. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, she was she's at that dinner with him. And I think Pompeo is the table, too, though. So it looked like kind of a, I don't know, war. Dinner. It was not like they were a, I don't know, war dinner. It was not like they were like sneaking around at a Burger King. They were at like a big fancy dinner.
Starting point is 03:35:29 You know what I mean? I haven't heard her actual thoughts enough to like say that the talk about her is right or wrong. All I've heard is the talk about her. I haven't heard her herself. So, yeah, I guess I just don't care about her or what she's up to. The third party thing needs a real Donald Trump was the last chance for the third party candidacy.
Starting point is 03:35:48 If if something had happened during his his run where he had to do his own thing, you might have had a third party that like competed in one, maybe like like maybe it's maybe they maybe the Trump Party would have gotten second and lost to the Democrats, right? Like you could see that happening. But you need a big sale to fly that ship, that third party candidacy ship. So I don't know. I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 03:36:16 You guys are young for Perot, but he did better than people remember. I want to say his percentage was like 16%. Oh, really? The second? That's year-end. He was independent. What was his party? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:36:34 Oh, I figured independent, but I don't... Usually those guys have a party. Have a name. Yeah, 2011. The party rock? He got 19% in 92, And I think that was his year. That's huge for a third party. Yes.
Starting point is 03:36:53 Anybody like that the other time he got eight and a half percent. So 19% was his good one. And like he said, like that's substantial. Yeah. And he took from both contestants. Like, I think that was W versus... Who was that? I forgot. 1992? 92 would have been Clinton. Clinton versus who? I know I said W. I messed up. Anyway, I forget. Dolly? Oh, Bob Dole. I think you're right. And I don't think that Ross Perot clearly
Starting point is 03:37:24 hurt one more than the other, but anyway. Yeah. I don't think it's gonna be a fair play together. It's interesting how our politics work that way. And then like, you'll see stuff from European politics where it'll be like the Albanian right wing party wins in a landslide with 31% of the vote.
Starting point is 03:37:44 And it's like, how does that work? And then you look at the breakout and there's 60 parties. And so it's like, oh, okay, I guess actually 31 is a fuck ton in this system. Sometimes they don't have a winner take all system. And when you don't have a winner take all system, splitting the vote up 16 ways just makes you lose. So everyone hears-
Starting point is 03:38:03 The electoral college is clearly the best system designed by man. It's it might be even be God. There's a possibility of that, that there's some divinity. Yeah, it could be divine. The electoral college. No, no man could say for sure. I'm being triggered. I mean, that was wild. I guess it doesn't matter when you win both though, right? This time was wild. Yeah, yeah, this time, this time you won both. So then, yeah. And there won't be a next time. So we're done. There will be a next time. It just will, it might be somebody else. Might be 15, 20 years though. I don't know. He looks spry to me. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Trump may not leave, you know, like, you know, like, I hope they dismiss all those charges against
Starting point is 03:38:48 him because what I don't want is there to be a scenario where they're like, all right, Trump, you ready to leave the White House because we're waiting to lock you up. Like don't even put that on him. I don't know if you know, they didn't dismiss them. They just delayed sentencing indefinitely. And I think they did it without prejudice, which means it can come back. And, but most people just think it never will.
Starting point is 03:39:14 I don't know if he's gonna like that. He might pardon, well, the federal stuff, he could pardon himself. No, no, the pardoning himself, hold his unsettled law. Like smart people disagree. Also, like, I think there's some weird kerfuffle where they haven't technically convicted him. Like, like, I get that he's been found guilty of those felonies, but they haven't done the part where they convict you to him yet. Like there's a part where he goes to the judge and he's like,
Starting point is 03:39:42 you are hereby convicted. Like that hasn't actually happened yet. I don't think so. He can't pardon himself. I don't think. And he couldn't be pardoned. Like he couldn't at, you know, five minutes before he leaves office, he could be like, ah, I retire Vance. You're the man. Would you? Ah, yes. You signed it already. Thanks. Perfect. Oh, great. I was hoping you would do this for me. Good. You know, like I don't know how long it's going to work. Pardon. So I'm just not sure. It's I just hope they leave him alone and I hope that there isn't some court in New York or some prosecutor in New York four years from now who's just like, we're all waiting for the prosecutor to file charges as soon as Trump leaves office.
Starting point is 03:40:19 And he's just like, you know what? I'm not going to leave. How about that? How about I'm not going to leave? How about come get me? How about we got a pretty good security system here. How about that? How about I'm not gonna leave? How about come get me? How about we got a pretty good security system here? How about that? Like, you know what, that happened. No. I wonder what he'll be like in four years. I'll be in the Oval Office doing president shit if you need me.
Starting point is 03:40:37 I feel like he's already declined a bit since four years ago, or especially eight years ago. I agree. The way he speaks. So four years from now, we'll see where that goes. He'll have that Elon Musk. No, Elon's his fucking first buddy. He's gonna have that, I heard him call him Elania.
Starting point is 03:40:58 Elania. Elania is gonna hook him up with one of those brain implants. Elania, they're calling him Elania. Elania is gonna hook him up with one of those brain implants that is a colleague in the lot of yeah, Alani is going to hook him up with his brain implants. I see him right up. Or program him. Right, suddenly he's going to think
Starting point is 03:41:14 that electric cars are dope and SpaceX should be NASA. I do worry that Elon Musk is apparently part of something that's going to look for government waste While he owns a rocket company And I'm assuming he'll be looking at NASA for any waste they might have going on so if I work at NASA right now, it would be like if you were for Chevrolet and Henry Ford is coming over to look for
Starting point is 03:41:39 Spending cuts, right? He's like,, the headlights on these trucks. They're terrible. Let's let's do away with all the headlights on the trucks. I read that that was happening, but I don't remember it being a reliable source, so I'm not going to. I mean, he's looking for a waste in government. NASA better step it up. Government agency. NASA is making all these.
Starting point is 03:42:00 Where's the moon? Where are we? Where are we at with the promise is like we were to get every week. And you know, no, no sooner than 2025. They just lost a rush. They just sent a mission to one of those moons that we were jerking off about last month. I'm mixed on that. I'm glad you said that, because like Neil deGrasse Tyson is like SpaceX isn't doing anything that NASA hasn't done
Starting point is 03:42:26 30 years ago. What do they do? Low orbit satellites? What do they do? Like listen, now I know the reusable stuff is something new, but I'm like, yeah, when you think about the really momentous like science achievements, that's all NASA. Elon Musk hasn't sent probes to Mars.
Starting point is 03:42:44 The Elon Musk hasn't sent the Hubble or whatever Like Voyager into deep space. He's going around the block space-wise Yeah, right, which is cool and I sound like I'm just missing it I'm just saying that NASA's kind of in a different lane. So lane doing that deep space someone did the math the other day and and it's like 60 times cheaper to launch one of his rockets than a nasa rocket you can launch like 60 rockets for one of his So the idea right is you send your spaceship that goes to wherever up there And piece mail you bring it enough fuel to fill it up because up until now Most people probably know this, but just
Starting point is 03:43:25 in case you don't, spaceships don't have like a big tank of fuel that we're flying around in our space with. They do these these these big burns all at once. And then the rest of it is coasting and using gravity and little minor corrections. But what he wants to do is send all the fuel that is it takes a ton of fuel to get stuff up there. He wants to in multiple trips, bring a giant gas tank of fuel up there so you can strap it on that rocket and accelerate toward Mars for a while, actually burn toward it and get there a little bit faster. Um, him, him making it cheaper is going to make the NASA stuff work.
Starting point is 03:44:00 I think the two things need to, I don't need him to figure out if wheatgrass can grow in low earth orbit. That's NASA's job, but I need him to make a trip somewhere affordable. Like I don't want to break the bank sending four people to Mars and they die and we never do it again. I want to be like, ah, shocks, let's send them. Who else? I think NASA does the sort of thing I talk about in the last couple of weeks, which is like they're rewarded for what they get done and not for being cost effective. And if you go too far in that direction,
Starting point is 03:44:31 then you don't get as much done. Like at some point money matters. And if you pay $8,000 a bolt, well, you don't do anything before 2025. Yeah, I don't know if they have those kind of wasteful things like the military industrial complex does, but they do cool stuff. I think they do a poor job of talking about it
Starting point is 03:44:49 because they went a while back and we landed a spacecraft on a moving asteroid. Like the asteroid's moving like 17,000 miles per hour. The thing we since moved 15,000 miles per hour. We hit a bullet with a bullet, landed, grabbed a sample, took back off again, came back to Earth, and then dropped that sample off so that it landed right where we wanted it to and went and picked it up. And then we're testing that sample now to see what kind of like itty bitty rock things
Starting point is 03:45:18 were on that tiny asteroid we landed on. That's just cool. And then the mission they sent to, I think it's one of Jupiter's moons that left last week. I think it takes like five or seven years to get there though. That's how far away it is. Yeah, you would have done it one. You would have boosted right there. He says with no source. Yeah, let him find out What they should work together. We should keep NASA around, but, you know, maybe wag a finger at the $8000 bolts and then let SpaceX keep doing their thing where they seem to play into NASA's.
Starting point is 03:45:54 I mean, you just let SpaceX handle the vehicles. My big thing for this science, right? I like how Elon Musk knows to be a good thing. That's what about this. He's a very, very exactly. Very rarely have we had anyone involved in space or any scientific frontier that has ever emoted in the same way that Elon Musk has. And I think we should all rally around that.
Starting point is 03:46:16 Was that first? That we're talking about the jumping. I think I don't know. We showed that guy that guy loves space. He's addicted to. I need a guy. A seven inch vertical leap. What I.
Starting point is 03:46:33 I like those. I like those. I like those memes where it's like. Like Trump just fucking exasperated by how annoying Elon Musk is, where he he's like I really didn't expect this guy to still be here. They used to make those about Biden and Obama like Biden was Obama's dumb sidekick he would always say something completely stupid
Starting point is 03:46:57 and then Obama will be like what are you talking about Joe? What the hell are you talking about Joe? So it kind of makes sense. What my theory on Elon is, he was so beloved before the Twitter buyout, maybe a little bit before that with some trans issues stuff. And then he felt the bitter taste of internet hatred, complete and total internet hatred. And then he went to a Trump rally and he did his little jump and everybody's like, he's like a Sims character. Everybody loves him now and he's addicted. He's addicted to that MAGA love.
Starting point is 03:47:30 And I think that he's, he's, he's in, all the, every time I see it mentioned, they're like, Elon Musk still hasn't left Morillag. You know, I can't tell much from my chair here in the office, but it almost seems like Elon Musk has become the actual VP. Yeah. Tell me JD Vance is front and center on your TV, not mine.
Starting point is 03:47:50 All right. So my theory on that is two part. One, I think you're probably just right. I think that Elon Musk is more, I think, I think Trump likes it more. I think he respects his opinion more. And I think he's more powerful and influential in every conceivable way. Whereas what can JD Vance give Donald Trump that he can't do already And he's like you're the vice president ha that would matter if I weren't the president
Starting point is 03:48:11 Maybe maybe someone else wants to talk to you, but but not really me so I could see like that being there a little bit but also Like when he went out to the UFC the other night I don't think Secret Service will let those two men go be in the same room together at a UFC event. I feel like that's one of those things where they're like, nah, you can't hang out. What are you talking about? Boys, boys, eggs and baskets. Do I have to break it down? Well, you know, I think there's just like Johnson would be the president if someone took both of
Starting point is 03:48:37 them. Ah, who wants that? That's how you know nobody. He brought him on the trip. He's like, who's, I fellas. He brought him on the trip I Didn't realize the keyboard was picking up. So if you guys don't mind cutting that out I know people complain about my mic being too fucking loud. Anyways, so if there's any feedback Yeah, if there's any feedback, whatever next time I can lower stuff Don't work Jack will meticulous remove any audio Don't worry, Zach will meticulously remove any audio imperfections once he works with any video.
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Starting point is 03:49:19 Yep, see you guys. Have a good night. Later, Caleb. Take care, man. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think of a good night. Yeah. All right. Later, Caleb. Take care, man. Yeah, yeah, I I'm trying not to chase every little I just read he put the Secretary of the Navy in place. Dude donated like a million dollars and has no military experience. And now
Starting point is 03:49:40 he's the Secretary of the Navy. And it like, does he know we had a Secretary of the Navy? See if I have it? Of course we have a Secretary of the Navy and it like, ah. Is he on above? I didn't know we had a secretary of the Navy. Let me see if I have it right. Of course we have a secretary of the Navy. I thought it was secretary of defense that handled all of that. Well, he's the secretary of defense, I'm sure. Secretary of the Navy.
Starting point is 03:49:59 That doesn't sound serious. You like czar better? I like- Don't think John Phelan, a businessman with no military experience to be secretary of the Navy. He is greatly honored to be the first person in 15 years to lead the Navy without having served in the military. Um,
Starting point is 03:50:16 yeah. And he donated a ton to Trump, which surely is how he got the job. It's kind of the exact sort of swamp that Trump should be draining. That guy looks like he knows boats to me. I took one look at him and I could tell like, what are you gonna put him in the Navy? Are you gonna waste his time? He knows everything. Yeah, he has nothing to learn about boats, I'm sure. Yeah, I worry about this kind of nonsense. That man's ship shape. Look at him. No, that guy's fat.
Starting point is 03:50:42 Yeah, he's pretty fat and bald, huh? He's pretty fat and bald and old. He's pretty fat and bald and old. He's pretty fat and bald and old. I mean, I guess maybe 15 years ago, there was another guy who didn't do a terrible job. So maybe the nation moved on. Yeah. I don't know what the secretary is here though. I don't know what the fucking secretary of the Navy does. He takes notes at the meetings. That's my secretary. I think it's mostly an outfit thing that's the admiral secretary that's what that is he works for captain crunch yeah yeah he takes minutes i think he decides how long the shorts are going to be he's the civilian leader of the military second largest it's a civilian
Starting point is 03:51:20 leader of the navy his response for health and well-being of more than one. What does that mean though? That's all fucking euphemisms. Oh The health and the well-being that could be anything from like craft services to like military strategy Yeah, that's um, he manages hang on. He manages an annual budget of two dollars 250 billion dollars as he's managing? While ensuring the Navy is able to execute critical national security missions. Well, I'm sure he'll be good at that.
Starting point is 03:51:50 Now that's a bunch of fluff if you ask me. He probably wrote that. 250 billion. I bet 248 billion of that is like, we need you to sign this to maintain the boats. And he's like, okay. And they're like, all right, next question is how gay do you want our sailors to be? And he's like, the gayest, the Navy, the absolute gayest. And he's like a lot too billion to homosexual. I'm okay. We're going to get recruited. I'm definitely okay with the gays in the, in the Navy. Like, like maybe like, it beats women. There you go.
Starting point is 03:52:22 Like it beats women. There you go. The alternative is having girls on the ship. Get those gay boys in. Yeah. I don't know how you're going to find you. You can't fill up a naval vessel without some gay dudes. There's just no you wouldn't be able to crew all the boats without the gays. No.
Starting point is 03:52:42 You're about that one numbskull in the Navy. He had a fucking Starlink on that. He snuck onto the ship and he's like, he brought Starlink on the ship. He like six and he's giving away our global position to the Russians, right? Like on our top secret nuclear vessel. But like a bunch of people got the Wi-Fi. They're like so happy because they could like serve porn or whatever anytime they want. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:53:08 Yeah. They're on Starland. I mean, but for real, you're a sailor on that boat and some guy is like, guess what? We're gaming boys. I'm not turning him in. I'm like, dude, sailor Ted rules. Like I'm not saying shit. I want a game called duty, but there was some brass like using the Wi-Fi like like like just short of the
Starting point is 03:53:30 captain of that ship was was like new about it inside. See that's a that's Joe Biden's neighbor right there. That's why this guy right here, he's going to clean all that up. This is the new secretary we're putting in there. Business man doing business, donating for jobs. Yeah, shutting down the free internet. Going back into the offices too, no more of that remote work. Elon hates that remote work.
Starting point is 03:53:54 Have you seen all that stuff? Taylor, do you think Elon's right about that? The remote work thing? Yeah, is remote work as productive as it... I think it's not and I wish it was. I always thought that there were a hundred little micro communications at the office where people like synergized if they're on the same project,
Starting point is 03:54:14 they get lost when you work remotely. And there was a lot of value in that. Having said that, I enjoyed working remotely. So I never told anyone what I actually thought. Where do you land? A hundred percent same page. Like I liked working from home and I do like working from home, but like it's not as effective as just being in the office and doing it.
Starting point is 03:54:37 There is a mindset you get in. Like you're more like focused on the grindstone when you're there. Whereas like if you're home, it's very easy to be like, all right, I'm gonna block off this section of my morning and then maybe I'll do a little mini workout here. Like you're just not as serious. Something about my whole work environment was so set up for productivity that sometimes I would do my schoolwork.
Starting point is 03:54:59 I got my masters at night while working at Cisco at the office, just like here's where I wanna do my homework, here's where I wanna do my coding projects. Here's where I want to do my coding projects. Something about this keyboard, this chair, this lack of distractions. This is where I get my best work done and I have to get shit done. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:55:14 So yeah, the office is good, except for the part about my happiness. It's just the trade-off, because it's like working from home, you're probably getting 90% of the same stuff done. 80, 90%. Go into the office, you're getting 100% of it, but you're also losing way more than what I think is a fair trade off of lifetime for that 20% efficiency where it's like, now you have to get ready, go into the office, sit there all day, you have the commute home.
Starting point is 03:55:45 Like even if you are a bit less efficient, it's still a net benefit from a time perspective. Yeah, and apparently the office is pretty expensive for the business to maintain. Like if they could have a smaller office building because people work from home, the benefits there, I'm told, are bigger than you'd guess. It's hard to put a value on productivity
Starting point is 03:56:06 that's difficult to measure. You know, I just liked working from home. Oh, it's great. And it was cheaper, you know, like I always ate out. That was a mental health expense for me. So I didn't eat in the office. I went out to a restaurant, but you do that every day and that adds up.
Starting point is 03:56:32 Yeah. Yeah. Even like Chipotle, if you're eating a $18 or I guess years ago, Chipotle wouldn't have been, but like now Chipotle, like a good meal. I'm, I'm, I'm getting, I'm double meeting it up. So it's going to be, it's going to be 18, 50, 19 bucks. That adds up. That's a hundred dollars a week. That does add up. I didn't know what it was. I don't think I'd go there if it a hundred dollars a week. That does add up. I didn't know it was eight. I don't think I'd go there if it was $18 a meal. There must be some competitive place at 12. Maybe it's just like fast food. Not nearly as good.
Starting point is 03:56:57 Yeah, fast food is going to hit you in at like 12, 14 bucks for the same amount of food. And if it's like, all right, I can spend $14 on this Burger King meal or I can spend 1850 on this double meat like burrito bowl. I'm going to do that. Your best bet is to go to like a Publix grocery store that has a has like that does lunch and has like one of those bars. And then you could get out of there for like seven, eight bucks. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:57:21 The best move is to get a rotisserie chicken from a grocery store and just eat that. If you go in to a grocery store and buy a rotisserie chicken and nothing else, you have effectively robbed them. Oh, you think they sell it below cost? 100 percent. Yeah, it's a yeah, it's a loss leader. It's a destination item, they call it, people will go there specifically for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:57:47 I think Costco might still sell for like five bucks. Grocery store, like seven or eight bucks now. So, yeah, they lose money on every rotisserie chicken. So if you go in there and just buy that, you're made in the shade, brother. I don't want to I don't want to disassemble. Oh, you get muted, Kyle. I want to disassemble. Oh, he lost you. You got muted, Kyle. You don't want to disassemble what? What do you not want to disassemble?
Starting point is 03:58:10 I can't imagine. I like disassembling the chicken. I feel like a king of old when I rip off the legs and I'm eating them on my couch. That's nice. The reason I haven't eaten out in so long like for a lunch like that is the calories. I don't know if it's an age or maybe it's just how I'm wired. I'm in a constant battle to state that every meal all day all the time. I think my natural like happy place is just a little bit fatter. I mean, you're in a good spot.
Starting point is 03:58:46 You're a guy. Yeah. I was in the gym today and I flexed in the mirror and I was like, you could take pictures for Twitter if you wanted. Do it, I'll retweet it. You jacked. You should talk to Derek.
Starting point is 03:59:03 I'm sure he could get you some stuff. I sent him a message the other day. It's a third party was interested in some stuff. And I sent Derek a message. He gets me back with like eight paragraphs of information. He's he's always down to get somebody juiced up, jacked up. Loves it. Loves it. He wants to see big, juicy boys. He loves it. Yep.
Starting point is 03:59:24 I can't wait for you you take the plunge. Like, like you're reaching your mid thirties here. So like it's time. It's it's time. What are you talking about? I just turned 23. I think you're talking to me.
Starting point is 03:59:37 No, I I actually was. It's so funny. Me reaching my mid thirties. I mean, both of you though, because like you're I actually was so funny But both of you though because Like you're all end up doing it eventually you're both fit already and and then strong already So the introduction of some exogenous hormones is just gonna make you explode with production and gains It's gonna be wild. I
Starting point is 04:00:03 To me Taylor doesn't need bigger muscles. He already has that. Semi-glutides would convert him to a tender machine. No. Yeah, I'm just like, I'm decently muscled. I just have an enormous amount of fat from the client. But your muscles will become hard like steel. They'll become more dense. Like you won't be able to push your muscles in. Like you'll flex and you'll take your other thumb and you'll be like, I can't even make a dent. It's like hardwood.
Starting point is 04:00:31 It sounds kinda nice. I'm made of my agony. Ooh, I like that. It's one of those hardwoods. Don't get walnut. It actually is. It costs less than your Chipotle too. You wanna be be maple Taylor.
Starting point is 04:00:47 Maybe I'll just get, maybe I'll get huge. Much harder than mahogany. Mahogany soft. You'd be bench pressing 400 pounds in six months. You think so? I know. So you'd get injured. I'd try it.
Starting point is 04:01:02 He'd be nice muscles would get stronger than his tendons. I hit three, 35 naturally. Not to say. I probably get only 21. I mean, but like what's going to happen? Like I'm finally going to be able to buy beer like I'm getting into cigarettes.
Starting point is 04:01:23 That's new for me. Yeah, cigarettes. That's new. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I'll do it at some point. I'll get, I'll get gross level shredded. That sounds fun. I mean, it, it, it'll be really interesting when you go on a little bit of testosterone and suddenly like you, you're a wider human being doors don't fit you as well anymore. Hell yeah. What if I become even more right wing? You're like, you know what? Before I didn't like abortion.
Starting point is 04:01:53 Now I fucking hate it. You're going to be one of those guys. Intimidating. I'm pouring everything with stuffing the towel in as I'm doing it. Yeah. I'm going to bomb an abortion clinic. Well, I'll do that. I'll turn into a domestic terrorist or anything.
Starting point is 04:02:08 No, I wouldn't do that. Who knows what the tea will do to me? I mean, it won't do that. I promise it won't turn you into a domestic terrorist, but it will make you like super juicy and it'll make you be able to lift like lots and lots of plates. How many plates is 400 pounds?
Starting point is 04:02:24 Well, three. 305 is a pounds. Well, three. 305 is a thing. 315 is three plates. That's four on each side. Since the four plates would be 405, right? Yeah, that's four plates on each side, dude. You know what that's gonna look like? That would look so cool.
Starting point is 04:02:38 You know what, dude? That would look sick. I don't think I'd do any weights where the bar really bends. But if the bar had a bend to it, that would be dope. 405 will bend that bar. Oh yeah, 405 on a bar? You got a little bend in there. As you're pressing it up, you'll watch the bar not be able to keep up and the weight bend around you.
Starting point is 04:03:01 You need to start benching with a deadlift bar so it's extra flex. A bamboo bar? I've seen those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those bendy bars. Those are pretty cool. Deadlift bars are bendier. And when they pull them, they start to like, it helps them sort of yank it off the ground more gradually.
Starting point is 04:03:19 Yeah. They call it like whippiness, like a whippier bar. That doesn't play a role in any of my lifts. Yeah, no. Every bar is stiff to me. I wouldn't be surprised, Taylor, what do you bench? Is it the high twos? Do you break three?
Starting point is 04:03:36 In the past, I could do five by, 335, five by five. 335, five times, five reps, five. I that was my absolute peak and I was way heavier than I am now. Like I was that was when I was in the midst of like being fat as hell but also being like I'm stronger than I've ever been. I'm not totally not fit. Meanwhile like walking uphill. Oh speaking of that have you seen Can Crush? I think Can Crushers like continued to lose weight slowly over time. And like this is the guy who was like
Starting point is 04:04:13 when we first met him, he was doing dips with like, I don't know, 120 pounds on him or something. He's doing like 120 pound dips and he already weighs like 250 or something. And he is just a monster of a human being. He had those pictures of him at the Renaissance festival. Yeah, dude, you look like a barbarian. You look like a goddamn Viking or something. He's so scary. He does.
Starting point is 04:04:36 He's like as broad as a doorway in the zombie apocalypse. God, I'd be so quick to scoop him up. Like, like if we're doing kickball rules and we're getting to pick who we want on our team for the apocalypse, I would hate to quick to scoop him up. Like, like if we're doing kickball rules, and we're getting to pick who we want on our team for the apocalypse, I would hate to have to look across the like, like imagine my squad and your squad like show up at the same grocery store, and we're fighting over the last can of creamed corn, and you've got can crusher on your side, dude, we're turning around and going somewhere else. Oh, you got to run. He looks like the kind of like big Scotsman
Starting point is 04:05:06 that would have been behind Mel Gibson in Braveheart before that charge. He looks like he'd do that sport where you heave the stones, that one of those Scottish- I'm going in the other direction. I'm gonna recruit a bunch of 115 pound women that can be traded for cream corn.
Starting point is 04:05:21 It does. And then maybe- Can crush you, will crush you and take them. Now they are- Ah, there's a whole and take them. Thank you for the women, little man! I can't win a chess. He has like enormous guy confidence where like in the hangout someone will be like you're just a fat fuck like you retard and he'll be like okay and like drink his like protein shake or whatever like just doesn't doesn't care because he's a monster man who knows that if he were to in person meet any of these other people ripping on him like they would be his concubines they would be his concubines dude can you imagine if dirty and can crusher in real life gotten an altercation
Starting point is 04:06:05 Dude, can you imagine if Dirty and CanCrusher in real life got in an altercation? Dude, CanCrusher could pull his head off like it was taffy. I'd like to imagine Dirty would be David with a sling. Like, I'm picturing more of the mountain against Oberyn. Except in this version, you know, it's even more brutal. I wonder if CanCrusher could crush a human skull. We call him can crusher, by the way, audience, because he long ago, I saw somebody crush a can on the internet, like a soup can with one hand. And so it became like a feat of strength that we would do in the Hangouts.
Starting point is 04:06:36 And this guy could crush them like nobody else. Like a few of us could make them leak or make them like dent severely. And he's just like, boom! Like, there's exploding in his hands. Like got tomato sauce all over himself on camera because he squeezed a like a tomato paste can so hard it exploded. Yeah, it's great. Do you know how strong you have to be
Starting point is 04:06:58 to explode a tomato paste can? Not a leak, an explosion. It's a crazy amount of strength. Zach's saying 1100 pounds of pressure to crush the skull. Now, PSI's pounds of force are weird to calculate. I did see, you know, those grip trainers you hold with one hand, you squeeze it, gives you digital readout. Like, I think strong men usually are in like the low hundreds
Starting point is 04:07:21 or like UFC fighters. I think most of them were in like 140 150s like like 150s what squeeze strength just grip strength I can close my That's not a unit of measure with pounds of force is what I assumed it Well, I can close my 200 one without that much trouble so these guys would you need need digital one that like everybody uses on the internet, like, like it's, it's kind of a tick tock thing.
Starting point is 04:07:49 Like, like people will be on the street and they'd be like, if you can get a hundred pounds, you get this or blah, blah, blah. And they'll, or sometimes they'll get, they'll take it to like a whole football team. They'll have the whole roster, squeeze it to see who's got the, the, the strongest punching thing. You know, you punch it. And Francis and gun is amazing amazing or some people kick it.
Starting point is 04:08:06 Rare is the highest recently. Interesting. Are those things well calibrated? Do they make sense? Are they an accurate punch measure device? Secondly, if you punch one and I punch the other, are those results like reliably comparable? No idea. I don't think it seems more like, like a David Buster's machine than it does. Real measure. But some of these fighters seem to care about it. I don't know.
Starting point is 04:08:38 Oh, you guys want to rap? Yeah. All right. What song do you know? What? What song? What rap songs? I was thinking about trial time by Mr. Biggs. I started selling dope back in 1986. All that Cadillac and put some things on that bitch. The brains blowed out with the white leather seats. They be scheming for that butter, cause that other shit is weak. Alright Kyle, you killed it. 728, I'm so glad you did that.

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