Painkiller Already - PKA 730 W/ Burt Bronx: Falling In Love With Frank Hassle

Episode Date: December 14, 2024

PKA 730 with our guest, Burt Brocks from Fishtank. Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Lock and Load, Bluechew, and of course our wonderful merchandise in our partnership with Derek and all his wonderful sponsors, or supplements rather. Burt, thank you for joining us, the Black Urban Ripped trainer himself. Yeah. So you, I wanted to ask first thing you just won fish tank congratulations big ups

Did you have any inkling at all in the beginning of what fish tank was who Sam Hyde was? Million-dollar extreme or did you go in totally blind? I went in totally blind Like I repeatedly said during this house on her sink I have no real concept of how reality shows work besides what I've heard through pop culture, osmosis. I've heard of things like The Bachelor and Real Lives of Whatever. But I never actually watched a full-blown reality show from beginning to end. So I wasn't aware of all the nuances and details that are involved with reality shows. I had assumed we were on with some type of documentary series initially,

but then it became very clear that this wasn't what it appeared to be. Yeah, when the show started for Woody and Kyle and people who haven't watched, it started as Famous House, and they said that there was an AI computer voice, which was really text to speech, and that was talking to you.

Now, it seemed like, and maybe you were playing it up a bit, did you actually believe it was an AI program for a bit or did you see through that pretty rapidly? In the beginning, they said it was an AI program so I thought, oh this must be some like new innovative software they're testing out in like in this house. But then the responses just seemed a little bit odd and then when the men started coming in, I think Vance, that was who came in, and started filming me while I was asking it a bunch of questions, I'm sort of realized,

this seems like they're setting me up for something. But I have kind of realized that like, maybe it's just play into it, because maybe I might find out more information of what the hell is actually going on. Yeah. And so like you did, you had no idea you were being recorded 24 seven for that first couple of weeks. Yeah, I didn't have a clear idea of what

that they were being recorded like every single second of every day live for like, God knows how many people are watching me at the time. Yeah. I had assumed that the filming was when the camera people came in and I should start filming us with the camera and my vision and act as to like do scenes over again or do it with different reflections. I assumed that was the film parts. Everything we were doing in the house was just like off screen. Yeah. And that makes sense.

What else? Are there any places in the house where it was safe from cameras? From what I was told, the restrooms or the toilets were safe from cameras. But I feel like that may not be 100% the truth because I feel like some of the things I was saying was coming out through the restroom. So when I learned that like my voice was being recorded in the restroom. So when I learned that my voice was being recorded in the restroom, but probably not my face, I brought my backpack in there several times so I can secretly write down some notes in my notebook while I'm keeping my mouth silent.

Or sometimes I would just say a bunch of random noise words like telekinesis, precognition, telepathy, like that. Well, I'll try to write down my thoughts so I can keep that secret away from the camera from the audience. So I was trying to plan and strategize while I was in the restroom. Yeah. So you're getting cover for yourself, getting your true thoughts out. So those first two weeks, computers going and everything, that's also when people noticed that you had an unbelievably powerful sex drive and you had to bird off pretty regularly and what I what I loved so much is that you

didn't even take like a four-hour break from birding off on camera from when you learned it was happening to like like you seemed alarmed at first maybe you shed light on that when they told told you, you've been on camera, and suddenly you're thinking, I've been birding in there. Yeah. I was like, oh, they saw that. I was like, you know, well, since I did that never seen, like, a more serendipitous style of burning off for being on camera because he's laying on his back. And he has the comforter like pulled up to his neck very high level of comfort. And then you're just you're grabbing your penis over the comforter and jacking it against

your belly. And then you're just like letting the chips fall where they may, I suppose, right? Yeah. I find that like burning off with my lying down on my back is the most comfortable way to burn off. That's true. Yeah. And the immediate adoption of the cast and production of just calling it burning off on ironically for the remainder of the show killed me. That was so funny. And like that was that was when the that was the first thing that happened in the show where like I like was audibly dying laughing like at home watching this was like you the most brief freak out

about being caught burning off, bleeding into just like a in for a penny in for a pound, time to jack it. So that was that was hilarious. I loved it. But the the walking around and talking to yourself in the first two weeks, that was something that was very unique. A lot of the other none of the other characters cast on the show were doing that. So would you say that and that was pre you knowing you were being recorded all the time. Was that more of a real window into Burt like going around talking to yourself like that at a lower volume? That's usually what I do sometimes I'm trying to like think, plan or strategize, but also

trying to like get my steps in. Because I usually like have a Fitbit on me. So like, it's kind of like killing two birds with one stone. I get to get some thoughts out and while walking around repeatedly, try to get some steps also energizing me at the same time. But then when I discovered that my thoughts, some of the things I was saying under my breath was probably heard by the audience, I was like, oh shit, fuck, okay.

So I was like, watch, to some degree, watch what I was like, Oh, shit, fuck. Okay. So like, like, watch some like, to some degree, watch what I was saying. But then, when I started deliberately fucking with my settlements and meds, so that I can be more energetic, like in a more of a hypomanic state, similar to Alex in the beginning. Yeah. Sometimes it became hard to control myself from the word vomit, you could call it, when I was just talking repeatedly to myself.

And then it kind of got into this fixation habit where I just started doing it without thinking, which I think also was good for help maintain consistency in the show. But then I realized I had to catch myself from saying something that could be too revealing or too, that I didn't want the audience to hear completely. So I would just like kind of like cover with just like random sounds and repeated phrases, I would say to try like cover up my thought process. Yeah. And that was very entertaining. And I think that's what led to the audience trying to trick you for a while

with the different conspiracies and theories where they would, you know, they'd play some stupid game, you know, that that Sam or Jet came up with on the spot. But and it would have to do with like the color of different plastic balls, like you would find in a ball pit or whatever. And then the TTS would start telling Bert like, Bert, why did Alex only pick up the blue balls? Alex has four letters in it. Blue has four letters. There were four blue balls. Put the pieces together, Burt. Like, did you fall for any of those? Because you seem to a little bit at times, but I also was thinking he's hamming it up. In the beginning, it seemed like maybe it was some type of like clue to figure out this unique type

of reality show. But then over time, I realized this was nonsense, but it seems like the production and the audience, the TTS audience seemed to enjoy me buying into it. So I kind of like played it up to an extent, you know, like basically went by productions, hinting and also by what the TTS were saying. I realized like with the TTS, when it would say things repeatedly, it's usually things that the audience wants me to do

Because it's like it's something that they find engaging or interesting So I just play into it because I see how the name of the game and like we're all Acting in a way. So like if this is what the audience wants me to do I should like just go along with it, you know, it seems nonsensical or ridiculous No smart. That's that's why you won. You played it the right way. How do you win? What determines, does Sam just choose as the guy that he wants to be the winner? How does it work? From what I gathered, I assumed it was the person with the highest number of endorsements. Yeah, it seems a little fly by night sometimes with how they pick it, but clearly a lot of it

has to do with who's the most entertaining, who handles the house the best, who provides the most content. And in like, I watched a lot of season one and two as well, and there was never as big a gap between the top content creating contestant and the second most as there was between Bert and everyone else. Like it wasn't, it wasn't close. There were whole days on Fish Tank where the only thing going on, because it wasn't like a challenge day or something, it was just Burt being funny. Like that was the whole reason. And that's clearly why I won. Like he killed it. Very funny. Did you know you were winning by a lot? I strongly suspected it when

I was at TTS was saying things directly to me and less to the other contestants on that I realized that like, and I think it says sometimes like, I love you, Bert, you're my favorite. And I was like, okay, like, so me constantly engaging with TTS is somehow beneficial in this game. Because I realized this, this reaction on the hook, so to speak, was the TTS constantly talking, and saying things and like engaging with it. So I was like I realized that was the key to winning as well as also like Just over-the-top zany cartoonish Nonsensical ass behavior similar to Alex I was studying him in the beginning like how he was kind of like zany and nutty in the beginning and how he seems to be

favored by production despite his problematic traits initially. And so I started hanging out with Alex to try to learn how his vibe, how he acts and then actually start to develop feelings for him for real. And I like that we developed a nice close friendship. So it was kind of like a win-win situation that I get to study Alex learn from him and try to like mimic some of his wild zany energy but with my own little twist on it. I've actually been the schizo freak conspiracy freak and we get to play that dynamic off each other. Is Alex Frank Hassel? Alex V.

Yeah, and you developed feelings for Frank at one point as well. Were those real or were those kind of put on? Frank, I found him very sexy, still do. But I kind of realized that he was just there just to like fuck with me or manipulate me a bit. So I kind of played into it because I thought that'd be good like love story drama. Yeah. So we're now this I wasn't expecting. So all of those romances and attractions to almost every contestant and person who came into the house, those were all sincere. It's sometimes it started off as like trying to figure out who would be the most interesting

to develop like a showman's with, so to speak. Initially I had Ted, I figured like he and I would make a great contrast, me being like a dark skinned, like tall, taller black man, he's a young, skinny, white twink. I felt like it'd be a nice contrast. But then I realized that he didn't seem to be too much into it. So I was like, okay. Yeah, he was straight. He seemed frightened. You would call him your little baby boy. And that killed me. That was the funniest. You would call him your little baby boy and that killed me. That was the funniest thing.

You would call him my little, you'd go over to Ted and be like, my little baby boy. And this kid is so uncomfortable. It was great. But Frank, I think the first night that Frank was in there, and this is what made me think you might have true feelings for Frank, is that while he was sleeping, you snuck into his sleeping quarters

and then you gave his shoes a good sniff. You kind of played with those for a while. Is that something you're into just foot stuff as a whole, not just Frank's feet? I am into foot stuff as a whole, but I felt like a nice little like gesture to the audience. Like it was late at night, everyone was sleeping, there was no, I guess, action happening. So I decided to like create some Yeah, so interesting content for like the audience watching. So I guess so I made a deliberate show of sniffing this the shoe big it all Run my cross Before you got in bed

Bird it off and at the end you were moaning Frank Frank and you're right. That was funny content It was almost surreal to watch What time of night were you watching this live stream? This was probably this was probably Like 11 my time because they're they're so like midnight midnight their time. Yeah It was it was pretty late A lot of the fun content happened late because they don't allow sunlight into the house All the windows are covered and so it's I would imagine tougher to be on your normal Circadian rhythm in there not to mention it's like a bunch of nonsense as you actually put it going on all the time

You mentioned earlier that you Intentionally fucked with your supplement regimen and your medication. I thought that was a bit, did you actually mess with it? Yeah, because I noticed like initially, Alex was kind of acting like a little insane to the point that he became kind of insufferable in the house. So I gave him some like the over-the-counter sleep related stuff to kind of chill him the fuck out. But then production said that they didn't want me

to give him the supplements anymore, even though it's just over-the-counter. And I realized because it made us to chill and relax and that's not great for reality show TV. Apparently they need to do wild, zany, full of energy. And so that was like, okay, that's so that meanwhile zany, you know, like shock value type of entertainment is what this is.

That's how you rank higher. I become more memorable so I was like okay so I did so I did a similar thing where it's like I just I just did the inverse instead of like taste stuff to help me chill out it took stuff to kind of like ramp and rev me up give me more amped up and little zany maniacal hypersensitive to sound and and touch and like all my and my senses just heightened so I can be kind of like zany, similar to Alex, but with my own little schizo vibe on it.

What did you specifically do to your drug regimen? What did you add? I take, I take stuff like Abilifide, Cerroquil, Respirul to like try to chill me out and relax me to go to sleep and also take other sleep supplements like Valyrian Root, Melatonin and stuff like that. So right now I just purposely stopped taking the anti-psychotic supplements and started taking some of the more, the energy like caffeine pills I have and as well as

I have also prescribed Vyvanse. So I took that. Also, I tried not to sleep too much so that I can be a little bit more nutty so that I can be more... It really leaned into it. Okay. You did. Man, that's great. Well, I wanted to be more entertaining. So I stopped taking my anti-psychotics and took more caffeine. It worked. Yeah, it did work. When when was kind of the first time it dawned on you that you weren't on a normal reality show? I think when the challenges became really silly, and the TTS responses became kind of like like vulgar and slightly not

not even like, like censored like at all. And like it was getting progressively more vulgar as the days went on, the channels to get more wilder, crazier and nuttier. And the fact that this show doesn't seem to have any consistent logic, rules or reasoning, it's just random shit happening at random times. I was what the fuck kind of show is this? I'm like, and they can really say that it's just

nonsense. It's a shit show. It's just nonsensical bullshit happening just for entertainment of the audience. I was trying to figure out who is the audience that will enjoy something like this? Just random screwball animal health style bullshit. And then it became clear it was like a predominantly male audience, probably someone that's like who spends a lot of time in front of the computer, not much going on their regular lives. And probably would have no problem spending hours on hours on end, and if you're

watching people act like morons for entertainment. So like, okay, so that's the audience because I'm trying to imagine like, who would that be, who would be that type of person would be interested in something like this? Cause this, before I came on fishing, this is not recently at all that I would ever be interested in cause I'm more of a serious academically driven

objective focused person. Basically I set up goals for myself and I just try to plan to achieve them. This zany screwball bullshit was like, was like almost cartoonish for my brain. But I realized in order to win in this atmosphere, I gotta like kind of like adopt the mindset of being silly and zany.

But I try to do so in a way that maintain like a serious tone. Let's say, oh, it's such fucking nonsense while playing into it. Well, try to keep that serious tone down. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you were putting on like a, like a Daniel Day Lewis tier method acting for weeks. And that was very, very entertaining. There at the end, when you, sorry, there at the end, was there a moment when,

because I know they did this last season, there was a moment where they made the winner think that they were going to walk away with nothing. Did they, the winner think that they were going to walk away with nothing Did they did they do that to you? they They are the ending of the series of this season, but he left him with a zero dollar check I kind of low-key realized like probably the midway point that like If I were to win it or like whoever the winner was, was probably not gonna walk away with the full 50 grand or probably walk away with like nothing

except for like fame and notoriety. So I kind of like mentally prepared myself for that possibility because I'm noticing some trends of things that for example, we had to bet with poker chips initially in the house and then we just ended up throwing them all away which didn't amount to anything. I just knew the fishbugs were. Also bullshit. So that's why I didn't really care if I spent like two grand of the fish books

to be a prisoner in the yard. It's kind of like, I mean, I was like, the I thought the fish book had no value outside the house and that we're just fighting for these fish books just because I was like, Oh, look at these fools. Fine. We're not going to money idiots. So I was like, so I didn't mind if I just like say, okay, here you go, let me explain prisoner. That's interesting. So you were going through all of that,

putting on that whole performance, all the while knowing that there was a good chance, or at least the possibility that you would walk away with nothing except for the fame that you incurred and the wicks that had passed. That's crazy because I think your competitors had such a completely different mindset. I think they were just trying to take it

as long as they could and try to get to the end. And you were almost reveling in being there. And that's what's definitely separated you and led you to victory, I think. Like Frank Hassel, for example, is almost like a hazard on a golf course. Like he's there to be a stressor. And I felt like you also became a hazard to the contestants.

Like I feel like you made them as uncomfortable at times as Frank Castle was. And I scene too. Because I realized like, it wasn't in the contract that didn't read very well before I got on the show. It was something called a last man standing type of thing. So I realized that like to be the most entertaining,

I would have to be the one that's probably the most entertaining when they're alone with no one else around. So therefore I could, I'd assume that like the way, I before I assumed that way elimination was going to go where like everyone will be eliminated and it's just two people left and the one person's left standing. I figured whoever it was probably the most entertaining solo is the last man standing. So I try to like, um, make myself entertaining even when there's no people around or like I'm just alone because I realized the audience was watching so I gotta like show that I can

handle my own without the need of other people to like vibe off of so I try to work better I try to work like my my kind of amazingness by myself and also when I was with people so that I could like be versus how in that sense. Yeah and the production is always going to favor the contestants who drive the most engagement in TTS because that's where they're making the money. Yeah so someone like Burt is bringing in enormous amounts of money through TTS because people are having fun chatting with him or or even stuff like giving him clearly fake clues to try and just see like, all right, what's Burke going to do? Because you're clearly a hyper-intelligent person and so you make very rapid word associations

and so you do that kind of performance really well where they will give you just the seedling of a conspiracy and then you can explode it out into like a real sounding one pretty rapidly. The plushies. Yeah, the plushies. I wanted to ask about the plushies. There was a moment where you were led to believe that there was a prize or maybe a clue inside another contestant's plushy toys. Now before you went into her bedroom and started ripping them to shreds

Did you did you really think that there might be a clue in there or were you like fucking it's not against the rules like I Was like it's probably bullshit. It's probably nothing in that question But really this song that the TTS last audience wants me to do so I was like, okay Just do it anyway Either something in it and it could lead to something else or there's nothing in it and just be entertainment for the audience. So it's like a win-win that way. Yeah. What was the most actually upsetting emotional moment on the show for you? Like was it Binks throwing the eggs or is there something more than that?

I'll probably say Binks throwing the eggs is number one and probably number two would be the cell challenge after I stayed up pretty much all night without any rest or any food or very little water and just sitting in that noxious fumes. I think it was getting to me mentally to where I actually felt visible. I was actually genuinely upset because I felt like initially Initially during the sales house

I was trying my heart to entertain the audience where everyone else is just lying around sleepy Not doing much in the way of being interesting I felt like sharing that whole cell counseling alone and it seems like it was not being appreciated by the other contestants So when they're sort of fucking with me in a way that it was just annoying and just hurtful, I just like, fuck this. I'm trying my hardest to be entertaining engagement, like try and make it more interesting to the audience and for more comfortable for the contestants. It's like not being appreciated.

So I was like, I'm gonna fuck, I'm just gonna like write this down until the very end and just not do anything. Yeah. And that was, that was great for the listeners. The cell challenge is something they do on every season of fish tank, where they pick generally the smallest bedroom in the house and they tell everyone to go in there and the last person to leave wins five grand in cash.

And they like, I don't know if they did it this season, but like on season two, they were like they had like a shit and a piss bucket in the closet. Like they genuinely couldn't leave. Did they have that on this one? They were telling us repeatedly to TTS to piss or on the walls or like piss on each other or like shit. So we're like, because they said like that would be great with the easy way to get someone to leave. I mean, if I want to be a dick, I could have just blown my whistle repeatedly while everyone was sleeping,

while I was awake and woke them the fuck up. Well, I didn't want to be a dick that way. Cause like, I didn't want to screw myself over for elimination. Like in case we have to vote against each other, like I didn't want to be the palmitic ass that I won't vote against. So I was trying to like be strategic that way too. What's the, what's the full story on the whistle? That's funny.

You're still wearing it, but so why you always have that whistle. Uh, yeah, this is generally like like this was like for the coach vibe I was going for initially when I came on to what I thought was famous house because I was trying like to give myself like a character archetype to work from so I was kind of like the kind of the creepy like homerotic gym bro vibe I was trying to go for. But yeah, then I guess the characters for us change over time based on like the vibe of the environment and from the TTS and productions, like hinting of how I should behave and act.

So it just felt like the original character archetype I had for myself kind of like changed over time. Well, I was able to like adapt and like like a chameleon, my spirit animal, like adapt and mold myself to what the audience was looking for, but still being myself in some respects. Yeah. So I know also you have been involved or me, I don't know how long in sex work and pornography. How did that start? I guess what was your family's response to it? Because I know you have a conservative family. So how'd that begin? I think that's sort of because I'm for my, it was my entire life. I played, I was like the serious,

academically driven smart guy who got good grades, did volunteer work, was president of lots of clubs and activities, and I was like the number one valedictorian style type of dude, and it's like, that was all I was, just the hard worker, the intellectual guy, and it's just, it's like, I didn't want that to be the only interesting thing about me, so I guess I pulled like a 180 and like just put the academic stuff behind and just drove into like, like physical activities, sex work to like,

kind of like have myself some, so just like different from just book learning for like, I've been doing my whole fucking life. And how long ago did you start that? You were valedictorian? Oh, I was the male valedictorian of Essex County College where I got my associates in accounting and I was one of the top students at Rutgers University with lots of scholarships and honors and awards I won during my time there. Accounting is fucking badass. What degrees do you have? I have an associate's degree in accounting, a bachelor's degree in applied mathematics and economics with a minor in business administration, a master's degree in data science, and 30 credits of

math education from Teachers College, Columbia University. Damn. Okay. He's a bright guy. What was a super funny moment about your data science is one of the other contestants was doing that thing where they try and pump up their own job. And it was this girl, I think the second place girl, Binks, she said like what she was doing was what it seemed to be was like data entry. But she said like in front of the in front of Bert, you know, who was asking like, what do you do?

She's like, Oh, I do like data science. And without missing a beat, Bert is like, awesome. I have my masters in data science. What do you do? Like, tell me about it. I'm interested. And she like, answer anything. She wasn't doing data science. Yeah. Oh, I thought me I miss her. I thought she said data science. But I guess she was saying data entry. But I guess you confirm that she was saying data science.

Yeah, she was trying to big league it and then you slapped her back down. That was entertaining. That's why people call TTS things so weird, because I know data science and the AI, I know some of them for AI and I've used AI, like ChatGBT and several other platforms. So the TTS response, I was trying to figure out

what methodology was he using to compute his responses? Where is the gain is information from? That's what kept asking so many questions. I wonder like, how does it work? Because there was no instruction manual to what I thought was the AI. And I'll try to figure it out. Cause I never seen or heard anything like this before. So I just was really fascinated by it.

I guess that's why I like it was somewhat strangely addicting talking to the TTS. Cause I'll try to figure out how it works and then reveals just the audience fucking with us. I was like, oh fuck me Did you work in data science or just education? I Got my master's in data science. I did like a brief Internship, but I never actually like worked a full-blown job in data science it was one of things where like once master's degree and data science was like the thing to get of like the hot new career at the time. And I chose it because also I like statistics and computer programming.

So it was like a nice little mixture of both. That's cool. My friend works in data science and makes like 450 a year. Like it's really lucrative. Yeah. So how many years ago did you first explore the porn thing? I believe it was, I did some like, I think some like videos, I think in 20, it was like after the pandemic, I believe. Well, actually I did like, I think sex work in 2018

and then I started doing like actual porn videos, I think in 2023, 2024 around that time. And then because I didn't expect it to be this level of famous, so therefore I didn't mind just doing porn or sex work because it's like whatever. I'm never gonna achieve, I was like I never achieved a Hollywood level of fame that's really damn near impossible to get.

So I was like who cares if I just do a little sex work and also I make enough money to support myself and it's just fun and get my face out there and get to do something I enjoy for the attention because I guess I'm a bit of like a like a exhibitionist I like being seen and like talked about by people in it positive or negative. I just like to be seen You did sex work you did it off-camera, too yeah, like with guys like people who like um

We want to like like a black guy to hook up life or interracial type shit That's really a common thing for them. Like guys reach out to me. So find you Through I think it was I think I had profiles on rent men rent men, yeah Boys What was the other one called? Mint Boys. Mint Boys and Rent Men.

Oh, try this down Woody. I got it. Are those in the SMP? Those are big companies, right? Yeah, well that's so funny. And now you're done with that now, right? You're calling it quits? Yeah, I've decided to put a close to that.

Now that I've realized the audience I have and the potential I can make in terms of like engagement, popularity, appearances, being greets, writing my novels and concert creation streaming, like I realized I have like so much potential to really get myself out there, increase my popularity even further, generate far more income that could possibly generate from doing all the other avenues

I was doing. So I think I'm going to go into full force. I guess the only hiccup is that the firefighter training I was doing, I think I may have to possibly reconsider it or like put it into it because I feel like, I mean, I was already at a lower like lower probability to be a firefighter to begin with, so I was at the maximum age to be a firefighter in Jersey, which is 35, then turned 36 in the famous house. So I feel like I'll probably finish up my volunteer work for the rest of the year as a 24 and then possibly call on my resignation to go full force with the content creation, streaming, merchandising,

meeting, reads, appearances, and basically like make a full-blown brand for myself as Burt Bronx. Yeah, which by the way, excellent move making a new Twitter because while I was on the show, or while I was watching the show, you know, sometimes you'll try and find like people's Twitter accounts, like the different contestants and see what kind of makes them tick. Now yours was not hard to find. And it immediately confirmed everything you It's just the whole thing. I remember doing a half page scroll down. I'm like, okay. I got a feel there. So good job. Congrats on quitting that. That probably, not probably, definitely for the best if you're looking to make forays into like non-sexual streaming content. For the Mensa thing, when did you join and kind of realize like, all right, I'm really fucking smart. Let's see how smart I am. Well, I was in college, Rutgers.

I saw that there was like a scholarship for people who were in Mensa. I was like, huh, interesting. I wonder if I could apply for a scholarship that I researched. They said you have to be a member of Mensa. And to qualify for Mensa, he had to take a psychologist-administered IQ test and have the results sent directly from the psychologist to Mensa. So I was like, okay.

So I researched psychologists near me in Jersey that could do the official IQ test, and reached out, find one's unemployment. And then we did the evaluation where he would administer the tests. Like he would like ask me, it was like him like verbally ask me questions and I would respond verbally.

Or sometimes there were like things where it's like, I have to like match something from like a, I think a picture book or something where like, like, um, like a pattern, like, like this is a pattern with the next pattern. This one, I like choose between a, B, C, D, or E sizes. And then it was like, kind of like a time thing, I think. And also like, I think there was like memorizing, like a sequence of numbers and repeating it back.

So like, uh, I didn't remember the full blown IQ test details because it was like a sequence of numbers and repeating it back. So like I, I don't remember the full blown IQ test details because it was like 10 years ago, I was 26 at the time. But then I apparently scored really high to like, I think almost perfect on each one where the IQ was computed to 160, well, as an estimated IQ of 160, which may or may not be 1% accurate.

I think over time, as in my years, I'm 36 now, probably not as smart as I was back at Rutgers. You know, one of my brain was at full maximum power. So I think my brain levels degraded over time, possibly due to like supplements, medications medications and stuff and also like not being Actively doing academic work in the last several years so like So there's like it's just so like I guess like when I took the wife the polygraph thing

It said that my cue was not 160 I thought me it was like a self-esteem issue I was having because I felt like I was kind of not as Small as I used to be especially compared to like I was kind of like not as smart as I used to be, especially compared to like everyone else in the house who have more knowledge of reality shows than I did. And I was just going blind trying to figure out how this show works with absolutely no access

to the internet whatsoever. Yeah, well that's cool being a member of Mensa. I saw you were Mr. Mensa 2017. Yeah. Did they just pick the most jacked guy in Mensa and then give him that. It was like a beauty pageants for a thing. Whereas like we went through like a series of challenges. And I guess I scored the highest collectively in challenges and it crowned

me Mr. Mensa 2017. It was my first time attending a Mensa conference. So it was nice to be the like the king of Mensa for that time. What were the challenges? I think like, like a nicest outfit type of thing. And then it was like a question and answer portion, and a talent portion. And I think that might have been it. Okay, well, your men's a talent, What did you perform? I did like a bunch of jump roping tricks in like really quickly, like doing frontwards, backwards, twisting the rope. I love that. At a genius convention. Check it out, gang. I was trying to figure out a unique talent that no one else would probably think to do. So I was trying to think of a unique talent that no one else would probably think to do.

So I was trying to stand out. That's why usually with these competitions, I try to think of ways to stand out amongst the other people in the competition so that I'm more memorable to the audience. So that's the technique I was applying in this for Mensa, the passion and also Fishtank. Is Mensa like a sausage fest? It's mostly dudes, yeah. There are a few females, but I feel like some females are like, because I think their husband or boyfriend is in Mensa too, they're also I guess like Mensa members tend to like sometimes like date others, like similar with intellectual pursuits.

But from what I gathered from when I went to the conference a few times over the years, it's mostly skewed towards the males, but I think they're trying to become more inclusive of females as well. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. It is a bunch of dudes taking tests.

It seems like it's more a male inclined thing to do. Is there, are there crazy parties or anything at meant to get togethers a bunch of geniuses like there are like Groups of men some members. I think there's one in Jersey several in New York City. I think I attended one in Jersey. I think maybe like Nine years ago. I don't really remember the details of like what what went on. I think it was just like a small get together in a picnic, so to speak, in like one of the parks in Jersey, I think Branchbrook Park. I'm not, although I'm not sure if

that was the name of the park, but that's just like, I'm from what I'm speculating. Yeah. Well, that's awesome. You remember Mensa. Something else you said, in addition to quitting the sex work and and porn stuff I saw a video where you said you're gonna remove The was it the muscle implants and the butt implants or just the muscle ones leave the butt one Oh, I don't have any but implants. I just take news floating around. Yeah Oh, I just have the events in my lat and in my

Tricep. Okay. And you're going to get rid of those or are you going to keep them around? I'm going to get rid of them since they seem unnecessary since I'm able to like just bodybuild normally, especially since I'm on TRT and I have like supplements. So it just seems like unnecessary now. And since I got like ridiculed to some extent while I'm fishing for those, even though I openly admitted to it and it wasn't a secret at all to begin with. So I feel like maybe

it'd be better if I just get them removed because it seems like they're just counterproductive at this point. It makes sense. Yeah. And it's got to feel weird doing muscular movements with an implant in there that would, if anything, would be impeding your natural movement on a pressing or pulling exercise. Yeah. You handled that perfectly. Uh, when someone accused you in TTS where they're like, this guy's got muscle implants. Like there was no ego in how you responded. You were like, yes, I have muscle implants here and here and here. And then that seemed to mostly be the end of it. I didn't, I didn't notice many other people bringing it up to you. But then again, you were in the house. I think you're in the, I think the, the boys in the reboot, uh, try to ridicule, ridicule me it for a bit. And I was just like, okay, whatever.

This was not a secret. I never tried to hide it. It just didn't come up until I think the polygraph thing and I answered it honestly. Yeah. That must have been weird doing a polygraph test in the fish tank house knowing that even though it's a real guy running it, who's like an expert or whatever and does real ones, the production is just going to fuck with you over those answers. Like they're going to tell you that lies occur. Like I bet you didn't actually click over to lie for the IQ thing. They probably were just like, oh, let's let's poke and prod him a little bit.

Yeah. I was like, I felt like it's a lot about that. I guess like that's not true. I have a document. I have a document that was sent to Vincent. Also have a copy of one in my files that showed my full-blown IQ test. I think I uploaded on Twitter where I got a photocopy of it so that people could see the IQ test I took 10 years ago on 26 and all

the full reports show that the document's IQ was 160. But I want to make it perhaps like, I say documented IQ of 160 based on the IQ test I took while 26. I don't know if my actual IQ really is 160 back then or even now. That was just a documented IQ. So I try and make that clear that it's documented, not official, because like there's no real way to tell a person's Jengman IQ at any point.

These are just estimations based on arbitrary exams that they're giving. You mentioned very early on that you had autism, schizoaffective disorder, a couple of other things. And then you mentioned that you have a younger brother who has those things as well, but more severely than you. And so there was a theory floating around while people were watching that like, oh, Bert is amping it up and maybe imitating the more intense traits that his younger brother exhibits to try and like be zany and be, you know, attention grabbing.

Was there any truth to that? The traits I was acting in the first thing were more like my teenage traits amplified to cartoonish level extremes. And my brother's thing is slightly different from mine. He's as more aggressive, violence, more in your face, like wanting to fight people, but then act like the victim when you try to fight him and Constantly make things about himself thinking that everyone is trying to hurt him or fuck him when no one thinks about my brother At all. He's really self-centered narcissistic and he thinks that he's the victim when he's just Like no one cares not to want to hurt him

He's like nothing ever does it's like make up lies that people try to hurt him, try to rob him, try to steal from him, try to talk shit about him. When through this, my brother does not really have the type of personality that people even notice at first glance. He'll probably just be ignored when seen on the streets. So I think he just wishes people would fuck with him

because it would give him some semblance of importance. Because I think he's similar to me where he doesn't like to be ignored, he likes attention. And when people don't give him attention, he tries to act out to get it, except his ways is much more ostentatious and in your face to the point that it becomes aggravating. Okay, that makes sense. Well, then I guess that theory is busted. Who knows, maybe your brother would be a good season four contestant. Well, that's what I was like, well, see, while I was zany enough on season three, my brother came for season four, and I can somehow conceal my whole fish tank experience from him. Holy fuck. That would be like, the whole house will burn to the fucking ground.

Did your family know anything about you being on the show? I told him that I was going to be away for six weeks on a reality competition series where the goal is to be the last man standing and the price was 50 grand. I had to be in some random town in Massachusetts and I'm gonna have access to my phone. And then I told him like, I think I gave text them like emergency contact number in case something happens like God Forbid someone died and I just need to come back home immediately But they didn't as far as I can tell they did not Contact the studio at any point

And they were completely oblivious. What's going on? I think they didn't never check the internet or resource later my name online So they didn't know exactly what was going on. I think they just assumed that the whole reality thing was kind of like a conference for me and a few friends or something. Because I actually been away on conferences for like groups of people,

so they probably assumed it was just a similar thing. What was it like when you came out as gay to your family? How old were you? I came out when I was 15 years old between sophomore year and junior year during the summer. I believe it was August 2004. Did they accept it or hope it was a phase? They didn't accept it at all. They thought that someone influenced me to be that way. And my dad was kind of in denial saying that I can't possibly be gay and be a son like that's he claimed it was an impossibility so in my family's kind of like they know I'm queer but they just pretend like I

Do not not queer. They just like they don't talk well They do that now or that was when you were 15 that's well as 15 Later, I started just being my awesomeentatious queer self not caring. That was around in my 30s. I started being more ostentatious about it. Otherwise in my 20s, I was kind of like conservative on the outside, but then having all like fun on the outside, my parents view or knowledge because they didn't want to know about it but I didn't want to like be completely like

Among so to speak so I just like you know I have my fun away from my parents line of sight and then while I was home I just act all conservative serious academically driven when you were 15 And you thought you and you were gay I guess but was it more theoretical at that point or had you had boyfriends had you like I didn't have any sexual or romantic experience any male until 19 and all we did was just Make out new all years ahead. Okay. Yeah, and I have like oral sex I was like 20 and they have anal sex, so I was like 25 or 26.

Oh, okay. Yeah, so it was kind of a slow roll up into your queerness. Yeah. And that- It's kind of, I guess I was kind of like a late bloomer compared to everyone else, because from people I hear, they have sexual experience like well in their early teens, or sometimes even before their day-turn 13, I was like, what the fuck? Wow. I'm not really that weird.

I don't, they have any type of sexual experience or content at all. So like, like I was like in my twenties. Yeah. Everybody's different. You know, you can't, you can't be comparing yourself to other people who were, you know, I mean, it's, I would imagine it's probably easier when you're like a 16 year old boy who's straight because that's just accepted. Like it's normal. You're going to have a girlfriend and stuff at that age.

But yeah, I know if I would have come out as gay to my dad in high school, he would have like, I'm not gay. So I never had to deal with this, but he would not have been pleased. Like he wouldn't have been stoked on that. He would have. No, no, he would. He would have. No, no Like he wouldn't have been stoked on that. He would have been stoked on that one bit. But like you're on good terms with your parents now and your family for the most part?

Yeah, my mom seems to be cool with me. Not with my queer identity. So I tried to the best of my ability to conceal it from her because she chooses she doesn't want to know about it. But then she finds it sometimes I based but at the same time I don't want to like try like put off false identity from my own parents, because it's like like I have to be myself even makes them uncomfortable because my mom constantly talks about the Bible and that makes me uncomfortable but she doesn't anyway knowing I'm uncomfortable with it so I feel like I could do the same like I'd be myself around her if she's not she could be herself around me and also my mom lives in a house I own like I own a three-family home in New Jersey shes it from, she rents one of the rooms for me

along my sister, aunt and cousin. So I'm like the landlord, they're my tenants. So it's like, I can do whatever I want in the house that I own. She's, yeah, so it's like she can't really tell me what to do. But eventually I got my own apartment because I need my privacy away from my family.

Okay, so you own the house there and you have my own apartment because I need my privacy away from my family. Okay. So you own the house there and, and you have your own apartment. Yeah. Although I might want to, um, possibly buy a condo or like a me a small, smaller house for myself. So I don't have to like throw money away on rent, smart equity, you know, increase my net value. When, uh, for, For work, I see some stuff online that you do a lot of tutoring and exam tutoring. How does that work? And it seems to be treating you really well. I used to do in-person touring before the pandemic, where I would travel to people in Jersey or New York City to shoot them in like math, standardized exams like GRE, GMAT.

And I also did like a few, like a little science tutoring like in physics and business tutoring like in accounting and finance. But then somewhere January, 2020, I decided to do it online because I didn't have the mental fortitude to constantly keep traveling and where I thought it would be easier just to set my computer at my desk and just do online tutoring from my computer at that point.

And then the pandemic happened in March 2020, March 2020, and then business just exploded. Like so many students were reaching out for help with tutoring, but then it got to the point where it's like they wanted more like assistance with like homework assignments and exams. So I kind of like played into it since that seems to be like what they were looking for. And usually I was doing online tutoring, but like it seemed like there was more of a demand

for like help with exams and homework and other assignments. So I was like, okay. Pretty baller though, like you can just put an exam in front of you and you'll crush it for him. I mean, if it's like something like math, many types of like most types of math, I'm very skilled at, I have a bachelor's degree, I have a bachelor's degree in applied mathematics.

And most of the math they were giving me was like community college level math or like first year, second year level math. So it was like, it was just a piece of cake for me. Yeah. And so they would, how does that work? They just have to let you log in basically, and you can take a test. So it's kind of like a screen share type of situation where I would, they would share their screen screen I'll just like, you know, get my either pencil paper or like software and it's like do the problems. And then they submit the answers and then they pass the exam. Did you do that?

You literally get hundreds for them are usually just a sir. Just it really like something like you get perfect scores something like do you want me to get a perfect score because I guess it's like red flag. So I'm like, okay, I'll just like, I give, we get a decent score but nothing too ostentatiously suspicious. So yeah. So, but the thing is I realized that like, it would probably be ideal to like use to get a face of the company and

Just just um do it like without me revealing myself Because I from I forgot on the internet like I say don't use a real name on the internet So I was like, um, okay I'll probably to like get some of you to face the company while I just do the work on the back end hence the Jim O'Hara OC character, original character thing came to me. So it's kind of like a bit of an acting challenge, so to speak, as well as like, I'm writing my own fictitious character based on a unique version myself, something like that. What was very, very funny about the Jim O'Hara character

is the content you... Because you clearly made him a whole character, but you included in the alias your own fetishes. And so it would be like, I'm an expert at math. I love to smell feet. Like just... And that was... It was baffling.

Yeah, like a like a sort of like mostly myself with just a little twist of some stuff. How many did you take a week? During the pandemic, I helped students with like, there are like dozens and dozens of assignments and assessments. So like, so what was like I had no life outside of doing it. It was like almost 24 seven, except for times where I got sleep barely, and then woke up and just continue the same thing. Luckily, we were quarantined for all that time.

So it's not like I had anything else to do. And then I think it could be for real. And then even while I was sick, I was was just like do I'm a computer or like pencil paper doing some work as like With her independent. We had nothing to do. We can't go outside We couldn't like good like go anywhere So like it's all that was left to do was just computer work because like well So there was like I'm like the most ideal time to be stuck at home Working on the computer because like there's nothing else to be stuck at home working on the computer. Cause like there was nothing else to do.

I couldn't go to the gym. I couldn't, uh, hang out with friends. So that was the, that was the time I made the most amount of money during the pandemic. Um, and I was able to buy my first house. What does it cost for you to take my exam? Um, uh, well now I don't really run the business anymore. Take the exams anymore.

I kind of, that's been like, that's taken more time than someone else. But I think now it's like at least 300 or 400. Three to $400 for an exam. And it would take you like an hour-ish? I mean, since my schedule got so hectic, I want to like get my other experts to do it on my beat on my behalf for the students. I'm kind of like not really like an active member or part of the Jim O'Hara thing anymore. I mean, it was like a nice

quirky little project, but like it kind of like moved on to the whole daddy burro bang thing. So that's kind of like in the, like a previous venture that like, it's still going on, but it's just been like taken over by a different person slash organization. Are you still, are you making money off this thing? Residual, yeah. Okay.

But back when you were doing it, shit, I don't know. I guess you'd earn a couple hundred dollars in less than an hour. Yeah, depending on how quickly I can do the assessments or how quickly I can provide a random tutorial, so to speak, I could relatively make at least $500 in less than an hour. How did the word spread?

Did the customers tell other their friends or do you advertise? They tell their friends, they tell their friends and then postings online, talking about the services online that it just, it's been like wildfire. Luckily- Did you have to vet your customers? Were you ever worried it was like a professor

trying to catch you? I mean, it's not against the law to like, Okay. Yeah, I mean, I looked into it, it's not against the law to like, uh, yeah. I mean, I looked into it. It's not against the law and there's so many other websites similar to what I'm doing. So like this one, that's like common practice. Um, I guess the only hiccup is that like, I was actually saying to be a teacher for a while, but then I like said, yeah, no, just all your customers in America.

Typically most are in the U S there is like about 20% in Canada and then several in like UK, Australia, New Zealand. Okay. And so like what was, I imagine sometimes people would have you take the test for them and then they're thinking like, fuck this. I already got the grade. I'm not going to pay.

Did that happen often? Yes, that happened a lot. So I got very insanely frustrated to the point where it was like, that I would demand like half upfront, then half after. So I even do fuck me over after. At least I got something upfront to that it can cover the basic level expenses of running the operation. You could out them. These are very black mailable people stiffing you on the bill. That's a yeah. Yeah I didn't understand

the whole like why the fuck I did it. Exactly. I pointed that out to them. These dumb ass like why the hell would you do that? Like I could easily just expose you. You realize I know exactly where you go to school of what classes you're taking and who your professor is. He might be interested in talking to me pain I think their logic is that I wouldn't do it because apparently you know discretion is paramount in that business and that if I were to out them that um That it will and they'll say oh just this asshole outed me to my school They'll make me look like I'm a untrustworthy person

That's that's when you just do it stormy Daniels did. You sell them back the rights for the book you were about to write about them cheating on exams. Did it ever come to that point where you had contact like the Dean somewhere? Because you were like, hey dude you've owed me $500 for three weeks now. I'm done. I'm telling your dean. What I would sometimes do is get someone to call them on the phone pretending to be an administrator of their college and trick them into thinking that they've been outed by me. Even though I didn't for most of the time,

what I would do is just like, or I would send, or create thumbnails or videos I was saying like, or create like thumbnails or like videos on exposing person online. So that would be sufficient instead of actually contacting their professor directly. So therefore like the only humiliation they would experience was just like, punishment enough. So like that happened frequently,

but then it seemed to like die down over time. The issue sometimes is like some people generally just didn't have the income, but they were contacting me anyway for help. Yeah, that's what they were going for. Did you ever, I'm sure it probably didn't happen, but was there ever an instance where you're like, yeah, dude, I'll take your test and then you get it and you really fuck it up. Like, I did a bad job. That's for that occasion happens for people who like who constantly literally last minutes

I have a assessment due in like less than an hour, I need you to do it right the fuck now. I have no planning or preparation. I and it's like they don't give me details about what is they need help with just said, Oh, it's just a math exam, but it's some type of, um, either math. I'm not super familiar with or like it's actually a different subject, but they think it's math. Like, for example, they it's actually like a chemistry, but this is what they saw numbers and just assumed math. I'm like, yeah, well, I mean, there's no way you're going to do worse on a test than a

guy who says I need help on my math homework and sends you chemistry. Like anything was an improvement on what that guy would have gotten. Damn, that is that's so funny. So done with the sex work, done with porn, done with muscle implants, done with firefighting. You're pivoting full-time or as full-time as you can for now towards online content creation, playing up the the Fishtank famous house. Yeah, I feel like it's probably like less stressful and easier just as like streamline my focus on like building the brands of Bronx based on leveraging the fish tank popularity.

Because I realized I'm getting lots of offers for interviews. They want me to create merchandise, do streaming, content creation, custom videos, custom audio. Cameo would be great for you. Yeah, I'll do that. I just started a Cameo account. account is active right now. I've actually done like 10 orders already. And I have like 50 backlogs. So I'm gonna have to try like knock those out one at a time. I like do the cameos. I realize how fun it is like to create different scripts. And then I kind of reviewed a bit and then just do my own improvised version based on the

what the people want me to do. So they want me to do something like be like seductive, like treatment, they're my sweet little bitch. And I like the big black dumb daddy. Sometimes they want me to be, um, like encouraging someone that they know to come out of the closet. Um, but they just need like someone who has been there to like, kind of lend like words of support.

Yeah. But they just need like someone who's been there to like kind of lend like words of support. Yeah, then some requests of IBM I recently like Christmas or happy holidays requests You run the whole gamut over there Yeah That's so funny either or Do you want to do this mess or do you want to you can do it be gay, buddy? Do you want a Merry Christmas or do you want to... You can do it. Be gay, buddy. You clearly enjoy the character acting part of it a lot. Did Fishtank change your ideal? Because I know early on you were like you really wanted to play like a rapist murderer on Law and Order.

That was the character you really had an interest in. Is that still your dream character or has it changed? It still is the dream to like play the bad guy roles. Although the ideal role I love to play is how a guy seems nice, cool, chill, normal. I guess like Ian level vibes from Fist Shank on the outside. But then later in Act 3, they're revealed to be the main antagonist. like the bad guy. And then it's like their personality just takes a 180 and they become full blown villainous. And it's like a shock, like how does this seemingly nice, chill person

be the bad guy? But then we look at, we watched the film again, you realize the clues were there the whole time. They were little pieces that made it clear this person was not who they say they were. And they were kind of like having a devious streak that didn't really become really apparent until the plot was revealed. Yeah, that's interesting. I've never, I have no interest in acting and so I've never put myself of what my dream

character would be but I don't think I'd line up on like rapist murder. I'd rather be a good guy. I'd rather be like at the end of it, I think. Which it's funny that like your goal would be to be the sinister bad guy. But you kind of just came off fish tank seeming like not the bad guy at all. Like just a very funny guy. And so maybe that's why you're drawn to that kind of role. Yeah. So different from you. Yeah, in real life, I'm kind of like, you know, I'm like serious academically driven career focus, like I have, I have goals and plans and I'm going to try to get shit done. Like, you know, be organized. So therefore, like, while through an environment was just the only opposite of serious, like just playing random nonsense, glass bullshit. I was thrown for a loop. I was trying to make sense of it and try to strategize how to

like leverage the concept of what the show was to my advantage so that I can win in the end. What, I mean, enough about the fish tank stuff, but what do you do like today that you're enjoying yourself? No work, no tests to take for other people. What does, what do you do for fun? What does Bert do to pass the time? Have a good time. I like watching TV, um, with my friends and also like analyzing tropes and literary conventions and TV

shows, films and books. Um, I've, a website frequent allies TV tropes.org is a website that basically has like a list of like tropes cliches and literary commissions that's used in a wide variety of media including like anime live-action films animation video games books and novels Where I would actually like study the tropes are used in some of the shows I watch and see how it's applied

to other shows. Example is like, I was called off to kidding stupidity trope is when a person seems dumb on the outside, but actually really smart to just plain dumb to leverage it to their advantage over the people that are trying to manipulate. Yeah. So like, yeah, so tracking those through different shows. Yeah. Is it because those are tropes that you have an interest in portraying as a character? Yeah, I also like seeing it done in TV shows and movies. Another trope I like is the whole bunny

ears lawyer trope is when a character seems wild and zany, like a total mor moron but they're actually brilliant in their what they do example this is like um h vitora peck detective played by jim carrey in the 90s he's a complete like cartoonish moron but he's actually a very brilliant detective which helps him solve the case in the end yeah we're joe pesci and uh fuck kyle what's that movie where he's the lawyer oh my cousin my cousin Vinny yeah the movie rules that's a that's the only one i could think of like that yeah so you're just you're just watching tv with your bros studying tv tropes yeah i like um like

in mostly real life people look at me they assume I'm not really an academically driven person. They just seem like I like a like a thug or like a more like a person who probably did not go to college. So like I like to like appear something on the outside, but be more than what I appear to be on the inside. So when I was like, I like those types of shows was like they seem like one thing on the outside, but there reveals to be something else. They seem like a white guy named Jim O'Hara, but they're really a Ghana man named Bert. Yeah. Is that why you would pick

like white guys, usually Irish or Italian to be the front? Like in that industry, there's some, there's some racism there where they're like, I'm going to pick this clean cut looking white guy as my test taker. What it means because my voice is not seriously urban black sounding. And I felt like if I were to use another African-American male picture, they will assume that, because in real life, like on dating hookup apps, they would see my picture and we were talking on the phone. They would assume I'm a catfish because my voice does not match the way I look in pictures To white or thought I'm like some other undercover police officer. I catch them in a sting operation

The mustache adds to the undercover police officer thing because that's that's that's their loved I saw you your tweet about portraying Patrick Bateman. You've got like a bull goatee and the knife, super scary. Yeah, Patrick Burtman. That would be the best character ever. That was my first shoot during the summer. My goatee had to shave if he became a firefighter

because the mask doesn't allow, not allowed to have a beard at all, but 11 and a half mustache and a bit of a soul patch so that the mask can fit comfortably on my face without it like air leaking through. Yeah, that makes sense. I saw another, uh, and Zach, if you can like put these up as we're, as we're linking them, uh, This one, this tweet where you said, potential YouTube comedy skit featuring uncle Al and his nephew Bert and it's you in two different outfits.

Do you have maybe ideas of doing like the you playing many characters in a skit type of content? I, yeah, that's like a, like an idea I'm having in the back of my mind. This idea of the woman in the picture here is kind of based on like a series that already exists called In an African Home, where this actor, also a guy, an American actor, Clifford Awusu, he portrays himself as a teenager,

also himself as his own father so it's like it's also like something similar but like with uh my own little twist as like um the uncle al the series uncle and bird just like the lazy teenage uh punk sort of character i was trying to think of like a comedic sitcom vibe. Yeah. The size of shorts you wear are... Are you buying like three sizes too small? Like these are teeny little shorts. And also, like Kyle and Woody didn't watch the show, so they wouldn't know. Bert brought skin tight pants on the show. He's an exhibitionist as he says. And you brought like

15 pairs of the exact same pants, right? This was because I was trying to establish the character archetype for when I came into the house. I was trying to get myself like an iconic distinctive outfit so that people recognize, so that it becomes like a memorable thing. Cause I realized, I even before I got onto what I felt was like the last person standing thing, I realized that it had to be memorable by the audience so that it'd be like distinctive.

So therefore I made sure to wear like pretty much the same outfit repeatedly, or at least some variation of that outfit, but it was still have some of the iconic things like the whistle, the black shirts, gray pants or gray shorts, and the gray socks and black shoes. Yeah. And make sure to maintain the mustache, shape bald head like try to give like an iconic look. So much like how in in animated media, the characters were the same outfits repeatedly to give like an iconic look, similar to like how in, um, in animated media, the characters wear the same outfits repeatedly and comes

like an iconic look for them. Yeah. And they clearly production saw that you really enjoyed playing those characters of all the different Burt's they gave you to play, whether it was gold Burt or Maga Burt, dark Burt, like what was your favorite one? Prisoner Burt by far. Prisoner Burt? Yeah. What about Prisoner Burt appealed to you? I like I could be the like the creepy, intimidating, like almost like predatory type of character in the jailhouse, like a prison cell,

and all the other prisoners like fuck like oh god get away from this freaky so creepy and weird I had like fun uh tormenting prisoner three playfully you know yeah just how like how he was just seemed so scared of me wanted to get away really like feeling nervous I just like making him squirm there's just so much fun oh you clearly had enjoyed making a lot of the guys squirm especially the little twinkie ones where I don't know how much of a character you were playing. I think you really liked little Ted. Oh yeah, I do. I like the people that I was like fucking around with. I was kind of like hamming it up a little bit to make it more memorable. Similar to Ray from Scary Movie and also like Neil Patrick Harris character,

Brian Stinson from How I Met Your Mother, how they kind of like lean into the hamming up the like almost predatory, like over sex character. Yeah. That's, I enjoyed Goldbert. I liked when you painted your entire body gold and wore that gold sash and then went around as the... Can you bring up a picture of Goldbert?

I didn't know what Goldbert was. I was like, I wonder what Goldbert means. You know, you paint yourself entirely gold. Yeah, okay. Well, it's because they said he was going to win and that Goldbert was his final form. And so once he embraced Goldbert, that would be the end of the show. But unfortunately, I guess they got kicked out of the house for some extenuating circumstance that they weren't allowed to go into probably, probably for legal reasons. And so they had to push the ending of the show differently. And so you just go ahead and pull that up, Zach, so we can see Goldbert in action. Mr. Zach, you could pull that up. Now this is two weeks after you stopped your anti-psychotic medication. I'm going to tell you guys who are audio only, you dismissed quite an athletic display.

He was wearing a boa, I believe a cowboy hat and sunglasses, and he was armed and he was putting on a, he was showing off his combat skills. It was impressive. What was the audio there? That sort of theme song that was reminiscent of like an 80s cartoon show. That was like, He-Man or She-Ra. You can type in, for the TTS, you can pick between like two dozen different voices. And so they probably picked like epic opera guy and typed in like Goldbert over and over that's cool so it was very very fun anyway Kyle Woody anything else you guys would like to poke and prod? No, Goldbert. No, it was a pleasure speaking to you I

think I think everybody's gonna be surprised to see the diamond in the rough that you are, sir, because on the show, you are a scary, scary psychotic person but clearly you're playing a character. Yeah. Okay. But no, really fun talking to you. And how much money did you win?

What was the amount that you ended up actually walking away with? initially They nearly get anything at the end But then um, I guess after like the fans calling how the production a bit they agreed to give me 15,000 which is like less than a third of the original 50,000 So but I guess in lieu of the full 50,000 there So, but I guess in lieu of the full 50,000, they're, they're planning on helping me like launch my acting career, helping like boost my identity, leverage the fish tank fame so that I can be a regular guest star in the future seasons of fish tank and all the other

and several of the other MD productions. You can't put a price on that. You can't put a price on that. That's a, that's a good deal. You're getting paid a price on that. You can't put a price on that. That's a good deal. You're getting paid in exposure. Yeah, so that's basically I think like their, what they're planning on helping me with. I really like really get my name out there,

leverage the popularity I enjoyed on fish tank to increase the superstardom, help with like getting like establishing the website, the content creation, photo shoots, video shoots, paid meetups, meet and greets, appearances and dancing performances to the point where it's like all the income generated from all these different avenues would probably exceed 50,000 or substantially a lot more.

Well, yeah, but it's more work. Like it's more work. If I said, hey, I'm not paying you for this job. However, I have an in on other jobs you could do, which will pay you. Would you be like, thanks, Woody, that's pretty sweet deal. I kind of low key suspected during like around the third halfway through that like the end was that like there was gonna be like no money at all and when they showed the zero check I was like I knew it yeah they well they gave

him a check that said $50,000 and then gave it to him and then Sam went up there with a big marker blacked out the five went over the whole line item and then wrote zero and then left you in the middle of the desert, which was a very funny ending. And in real life, Sam came through with the money he promised. You know, it's not as funny now that you know, he actually kind of stiffed him a little.

It's kind of sad. Yeah, it better be some valuable exposure. Well, when it came to like, um, what I thought was last person standing. The whole goal was to like become like famous via the reality show. So like, uh, I guess in the end I did achieve fame, like famous fame, more, more fame than I ever anticipated. And they're going to help me leverage that fame to become even more like well

known. And I'm also getting like all these interview requests, acting, some of the some acting projects. And if it's a price. This is terrible. This is awful. You weren't paid for your work and instead you got fame. Fame sucks. Fame fucking sucks.

You don't want fame. That's the cost, right? What you get is money. What you pay for that is exposure. It is much better to live a life where no one is paying attention to you. You don't want fame. That sucks dick. To me, I lived a life where during childhood in like my early 20s, I lived a life of like obscurity where people didn't be able to knew of me but like they didn't. But I wasn't well known or popular at all. So I guess like this kind of like making up for like being the weird, creepy, unpopular loner kid in school and early years of

college. So now being completely famous, everyone knows who I am, everyone knows my name, everyone wants to get to know college. So now being completely famous, everyone knows who I am, everyone knows my name, everyone wants to get to know me. So it's kind of like, like making up for the decades of being obscure and unknown. Yeah, something else that threw out, I think pushed production towards not paying out. Number one, they put $50,000 on roulette in Vegas the night before the

finale and they lost and it was, it was $50,000 real dollars. Like they had us, they had to like buy a roulette table that would allow them to come in and film it and like Sam is like usually a pretty even keeled guy doing his skits and all that. And he and Jet were sitting there smoking a cigar, one roll on roulette on black, it comes up red. And then Sam was like holding the camera like talking to himself afterward. And people were like that was a bit right? That wasn't the real money. He didn't just bet $50,000 and Sam was like are you serious look at the camera right now I'm shaking like my adrenaline is so high I'm shaking I just lost $50,000 at a roulette wheel for one spin. Yeah Bert just lost $50,000. Sam only lost 15 it turned out.

Sam Longley lost 15, it turned out. I guess maybe because of the nature of my background that they probably didn't think it would be ideal to give me the full 50,000. So I guess instead they just decided to like, in lieu of that, help kind of like clean up my image and like establish a more safer work type of acting career. Cause I did, like I mentioned, like throughout the time I was in Fish Tank Famous House,

that the reason why I decided to go through with this whole nonsense was so I could get exposure and my name out there and to become more famous. Yeah, Mr. Congress. In lieu of actual money, you're getting other gigs that pay actual money. How's that going so far? Uh, well so far I got like, um, a gig to be with, um, Chris, I think in, um, Florida, like, uh, or I'll be dancing on stage, um, at, um, I'm trying to think

at least I think Fort Lauderdale is where I'll be at on this Saturday. The other 35 K. The other 35 is hidden in the Fort Lauderdale is where I'll be at on this Saturday. Is that the other 35k? That's where the other 35k is hidden in Fort Lauderdale on the stage. I think this is just for exposure and to leverage. Oh, so that is also an exposure gig. Yeah, I guess. I think it would just help increase. I feel like I'll be going on appearances and for example, this interview here,

and try to get my name out there Tell everyone how much we're paying you. Oh my goodness Now this is now this is an exposure gig, you know That's why I'm gonna host on the show for 12 different. You're not leaving me allowed to talk about that. I would. I wanted to see you get the 50 grand, obviously, because you won

the show. But also just from like a reality show standpoint, you definitely spent too much time saying you didn't care about the money and you were going to split it amongst every person involved. I feel like I'm disappointed about now that I won't be able to split it among the initial, I was going to split it among the initial 12 contestants, but then if I had gone for the grand, I would have probably give the lion's share of it to like the five who I felt like engaged the honest the most and also suck it out till the very end

until they just happen to be eliminated, which would have been Luke, Mizzie, Peyton, Banks and Symbol. And then the other contestants are free lowers apply like give a smaller amount to, like, for example, the ones who are more, um, stands out in those terms of like free lowers, I think was like Joe, definitely. And I believe Frank to this extent and then Nifty, she was, um, I think she, she provided like some comfort and help for me. So I would, um, help her as well. I had like some comfort and help from me. So I would help her as well.

Or you're paying your debt. They was going to do what I've done. Yeah. But the thing is like, you know, like maybe they didn't, I'm not sure. I can't really expect it. I mean, just speculating on me. It's like, didn't like the idea of me swaying among all these people. Cause I remember like, um, before the show ended, they, I told him I was going to like swim on the 12 contestants I remember like, um, before the show ended, they, I told them I was gonna like swim on the 12 contestants. So like, uh, well with the freeloaders, I was like, okay, I'll try and include the freeloaders. Then they said production as a swim on

production. She was like, um, do I have a, this is swim on production. They're already getting paid like a base rate for the work. So it's like, okay, so I was trying to like assume all the people. I realized like it was weird among, um, the 12 contestants, the freeloaders the newbies and the production and also the homeless people in the tunnel in Las Vegas It's like they'll be barely anything for anyone else like are they fucking with me like it's like you should pay these people in exposure Yeah, you can bring them on That's the exposure economy

You just keep the world go around. Since production doesn't seem to be interested in me and trying to help the other contestants, I think I'm going to find some way of my own to somehow help the contestants. I feel like probably engage the audience the most, always have, besides besides me, and then like try to like help them in some way. I'm just trying to figure out what best idea to do it like me, like I know it's like with the Ball Burs concert they fundraised so they raised money for the show, maybe like do some type of like in-person appearance or like a fundraise and get the proceeds to the contestants I feel like were instrumental in helping make season three the best season yet. So like Luke,

Luke, Mizzie, Symbol, Payton, Banks, Alex B, Connor, I believe, and then Job and then like some of the other freeloaders. The newbie contestants are harder to gauge because they're only there for like about three and a half to four days. And it's like, I guess they didn't have the chance to be really super engaging since they had a limited amount of time on the show until actually it was cut. So we have actually,

like the mind wipe bit that was not real. That was a bit, I was just trying, I was just trying to get back production, try gasoline us in the first place. Like try gas. Or Woody and Kyle's benefit. They brought on 12 new contestants a month in and told them that the show was starting a new and the four remaining or five remaining originals had to blend in seamlessly and work together to vote off and eliminate all those people. And Burt had a very funny bit where he's like,

you guys know I'm eccentric, and I have an interesting mind. And I actually have the ability to decide to give myself a blackout and to remove my memories of things. And so if I seem like I don't remember it's because I sincerely don't. And so someone will have to remind me of all this before. But I am going to when I wake up tomorrow, I will no longer know any of this and I will be going forward fresh. And he, he stuck to it so well. And like acted befuddled at every turn correctly and like reason like it was believable that I think didn't production bring you down to the basement twice because they're like this just stopped taking his anti psychotic

medication. And he's now saying he genuinely has no memory of the last four months like the last four weeks so how did what did they say when they brought you down? I was still trying to stick to the whole mind and then they showed me the drawing that the pain that pain made for my uh 36th birthday and uh they were trying to explain to me what it was like for my 36th birthday. They were trying to explain to me what it was. I was like, I don't know what it is. How's like, where did that pain come from? I was like, I'll try to get back at them for sure.

Like, you know, gasoline, that's the whole all famous house bullshit. You know, like, I was like, closing to like the season. Like if we continue to act for the full two weeks, like initially planned, at the end of the series, the the season, like assuming that I was like the last one standing, I would then reveal

that I knew it the whole time, and then give like a little speech on how I plan, I would execute this plan, and then be like, I gotcha to production, and to the whole remaining cast and how they try to like, maybe look like a, like a psychotic deranged nut job. And now I end up flipping it on them make them look like the fools. Yeah, and you did. That was a good bit.

I wish I could have ended up that way but then we had to do the whole RV thing. Yeah, yeah and then the cameras were closer and you could see you smiling a little more trying not to crack on the funny. Yeah, I was really. On the limitations. I mean, this is all fucking nonsense like like pretense, like I'm just annoyed with all this shit, but I guess, some stuff I was generally finding funny, I was trying to do my hardest to conceal it, but I guess it was just coming out of my expression. Yeah, it was easier

to see with those close-up cameras. But, well, I hope the exposure pays well. You know that wish you would have got the 50K. Yes, that was the the game. Even if you were going to split it amongst everybody. So I had what I know we're at. How did they run pull you on the 50K? They just said not gonna they said that the whole gambling the

$50,000 was real and that they didn't have the 50 grand to give me but I guess in lieu of that They're gonna give me like the day rate. Um, plus the fish books I won Which I guess amounted to what they claim 15,000 Plus there but they think they're the more emphasis are gonna do is like help launch my safe for work acting career Content creation merchandising and make a full-blown brand of my new identity as Bert Bronx. So So I'm hoping though. I mean I feel available sick to that also give me like priority in terms of like starring in like MDE productions and other films and content including the future seasons of Fishtank. I think they want me to come on for each season that Fishtank goes on. Yeah for sure they'll they've got to keep you

around just as a recurring character because you did such a good job. And also like there are people not many but there are from season one and two who are very popular who now do streaming. And the thing that differentiates them from the other cast members is they like immediately got on it and started grinding and didn't like, you know, take a three month break and then show back up. They just started doing it. And it seems like you're a very hardworking, industrious guy.

So you'll, you'll be fine Yeah, I'm just trying to like get all the I or some materials I'm just waiting for them to arrive. So I can really start getting like a setup for my office right now. I'm in my apartment Living room. I have a I have a separate office in Union, which I'll probably now use as like a studio space for like photo shoots, video shoots, streaming, and like content creation. So now that I have this audience built in and also like, also want to like, kind of like decorate like a desk space, so to speak, so I can use it for like ideal content creation. So once all that stuff gets in, I'll start streaming. I just need to think of a content I want to

stream. I mean, I feel like video games would be ideal, would be good. But like, I feel like it's kind of like a lot of people do video games. I mean, I would, if possible, I should get feel myself singing, like lip syncing to some of the songs I love to, like groove dance to. Yeah, let me tell you, do the lip syncing thing over the gaming thing. That's much funnier. And people are going to be watching to for your personality and for your,

your quirks and like the funny way you react to things. And so that would probably be, if I were you, that's what I would lean into more. Cause like the, the gamer streams, nothing wrong with that, you know, but it wouldn't fully capitalize on, on your personality. But anyway, I know we're wrapping the interview here. Where, where are all your socials? Where can everybody find you and follow you?

I'm in the process right now. It's like I have the Twitter, Instagram. The Twitter is Bronx Burt. The Instagram is Burt Bronx. And I need to, the YouTube is, the handle is Burt Bronx. I changed, it's the same YouTube channel I had before. I just changed the handle. And I think TikTok's also Burt Bronx.

I just need to establish the Facebook page the twitch I have a discord is also burnt Bronx I believe this court is saying I don't have too much experience in like using I've heard of it frequently and I have established account I just don't know the logistics and like leveraging it to like for social media content creation. So I'm going to do more research and like watch videos to learn how to use it more effectively. You'll figure it out. But it seems like you got all your branding on point everywhere you want to find him. It's Bronx Bert or Bert Bronx.

And so our listeners who are interested in Bert go give him a follow. Check him out. Very funny guy. And yeah, thank you for coming on tonight, Bert. It was good chatting. Thank you. Also, I was trying to establish the BertBronx.com website, so that should be active, hopefully, in less than a week. Okay. Well, this goes live Saturday. And so everybody, when you see this, go check it out. But thanks so much for coming, Bert. Have a good rest

of your evening. Thanks, man. All right. Take care. You too. Oh, it's at the bottom. The leave studio. We should have said that before. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, here it is. Okay. Later, Bert. Alright, later. Oh, it's over.

Okay. It's too close to the end. Kyle, you're muted my friend. What if he just ran out of the room? He just left. What if he was just like, fuck it, and just like ran away. Yeah what a fucking... The check was real. They were gonna not pay him at all? They did not pay him at all basically. 15 grand. They probably made that in like a week. I didn't know that... I thought he was... I was split actually. I thought at first they're doing this as a bit. He got his 50k behind the scenes and this is like an antagonizing thing to the audience.

And then I thought, holy shit, they really gave this guy $0. But obviously, it's not all real because they clearly like cut the stream and then like went back and picked them up in the desert. They're not going to really leave them standing out there. And then now he's saying 15 grand. And so who knows maybe it is a half measure. It's not a measure for Bert to kind of, you know, pull the wool over the audience's eyes.

Maybe he did that to me just now. I don't think so. I don't think he did that to us. I felt so awkward when you were pressing him on that. You were like, no, you don't understand Bert. You've been misled. You have been hoodwinked. You serve for all of your IQ or fools. Right? I'm like, don't you take people's business exams for them?

Well, like that was a... You have an accounting degree. That's a, that's a, that's not a good thing. Follow along. They should have shut that down earlier in the show. Cause in season two, there was, I don't remember who it was, but someone was like, if I win, I'm going to split the money with this person. And immediately, if I recall someone from production was like, no, no, no, no, no, no promises of splitting money. The winner gets the money.

And that's the end of that. If you are, if you're planning to hand this out to everybody here to like garner votes or avoid getting kicked out, then nobody gets any money at all. But when I saw Burt, and Burt really did lay it on thick on multiple occasions, like I'm not here for the money. I don't care about the money. The money doesn't matter to me. I want to become famous. And they're like, what are you going to do with the money? He's like, well, I really don't need it. It's not that much to me. I want to become famous." And they're like, what are you going to do with the money? And he's like, well, I really don't need it. It's not that much to me. I make more than that pretty consistently. And so I'm going to split it with everyone. And then that's when people started trolling where they were like, so you're going to split it

with all 12 of the people who started? He's like, yes. He's like, all right. And the 12 new freeloaders, you're going to add them in. He's like, I suppose yes. And he's like, okay, but what about like the lower paid, like but hardworking production members? You have to include them. And so by the end it was like, everybody's getting $600. And yeah, that's even mentioned the mole people, even the mole people. Yeah. Yeah. What do you may not know that that's what they call the tunnel dwellers of Vegas. Uh, real, true thing, not like a joke or a comic book. He said something about that. Yeah,

yeah, they call them the mole people. Apparently, there is quite the network of storm drain tunnels or something there. And numerous YouTubers have have like, gone to see the mole people like like these people live underground. And they're sort of, I mean, they're homeless, but it looks more post apocalyptic than homeless because they're down there cooking and mean, they're homeless, but it looks more post-apocalyptic than homeless because they're down there cooking and like, they've, but they're in complete darkness. That's another thing. Like, deep in those tunnels, it's just dark. They're living by campfire and stuff. It's weird.

I enjoyed Bert thoroughly. Oh, he's so funny. We were discussing before the show how sometimes, you know, we'll hope a guest goes well, but you never know with some people. And I felt like he was one of them. And that was fun. What an odd guy. What an odd guy. But also like really well spoken and clearly highly intelligent and interesting. But also like his whole thing. Like even when he was like, it was almost a wink and a nod

when he started talking about the TV tropes. He said, oh, I like characters who are secret geniuses. I like secret characters who like pretend like they're goofballs, but secretly they have a master fucking plan. Oh, okay, you do. Weird. I need to find what I should have brought it up. It's so funny that he like, it's so into AI. He really enjoys that. And then for his fake profile, he didn't use like an AI

white guy's face. He literally just found a trustworthy looking white guy, like with his own job and business and his own LinkedIn page and was like, that's me. I'm Jim O'Hara. Yeah, he was, I thought he was using Italian fake names and stuff. Lots of, lots of, lots of vowels. Let me find. That's crazy though that he's smart enough to take all those, I wish I'd asked him that because was he taking the same test over and over? Like something he hadn't brushed up on?

Or was he just capable of taking all comments? I think he covered that. He said most of the people were in the first year to college. I think a lot of them were in community colleges and that was just elementary for him. Yeah. And Zach, can you open up this YouTube page and just go to the videos tab? I wanted to know if his SAT score was something that we could look at.

I think he posted a lot of his historical test scores and it was very high. Well, I don't know about the cool guy, but bizarre fellow, really interesting. I rarely feel uncomfortable on the show, but when Woody was pressing him on that money thing, I was like, let it go, man. Let it fucking go. Don't scroll down too fast. Go up. I want to see. So go up to the banner. This is this is Jim exam. The number one proctored exam. Wow. online class. Just- That's the whitest man you can imagine. That's James O'Hara, the number one test taker.

So the left one, the LSAT is like tough test. That's a big deal. But two of these are GRE. And what is the second one? CompTIA? I'm not familiar with that. So for those who are audio only, this is Burt's fake tutor profile,

and it's a ginger white man's face on all of the thumbnails and offering, you know, I'll take this test, I'll take that test. Look at the thumbnail for this to the left in the second row. How to cheat on the GED. I can't fucking stand phone calls. Text me on WhatsApp instead. Jeez.

Hire Jay Hohenera, number one test taker in USA. My favorite though. Look at how to cheat on the GED. Can you be a bigger failure in fucking life than going online and trying to cheat on the GED. I mixed up GED with GRE when I first looked at those. I'm like, these are basic tests. No, GRE is for graduate exam. GRE's there too, but it's directly above it. Yeah, it's directly above it. And then the L sat in the top left corner. But GED, like my cousin got his GED

because he got in so much trouble in school, he got kicked out. So he kind of had to, like, and I was like, what was that test like? He was like, I'm taking harder job interviews. It's nothing. It's fill out your name and you're getting a 70. This is just such a funny grind.

To be like, got to wake up in the morning and, oh no, I didn't get paid. I got to pretend to be an administrator and call this guy. And actually I work. That's weird to me that he wouldn't nip that in the bud by just exposing their cheating. Like, ah, you're not getting your GED today, Omar. Sorry, you better pay next time. Jim O'Hara, number one taste-taker on the web.

Big shout out to whoever Jim O'Hara really is. That guy's like working at a bank somewhere being like why the fuck am I getting all these weird Google words? Like honey are you a professional test taker online? No? I'm divorcing you. I'm tired of the lies. Your profile. You've been moonlighting, getting people A's on accounting exams. What are you doing with the money?

What are you doing with the money, Jim? You're giving it to that whore, aren't you? I need to find it. There's... I haven't searched through his channel ever, but I saw screenshots

and there's one video that he literally made where he's like, get to know number one test taker Jim O'Hara. It's like a little about me. I am of Irish descent. I am a homosexual. I'm a raw top. It's like this is just Burt stuff. That's white Burt.

That's just bird. If anything, that's less dishonest if you think about it. Like he's being himself, just quite him. Yeah, exactly. He's not trying to hide that part. Yeah. He wants everybody who's getting A's on their fucking calc exam to know yeah, at a raw top got him that A. They get you a 95% score on your calc exam to know. Yeah. At a raw top, got him that A. They get you a 95% score on your calc exam, no problem. Calc finals, 85%. Q and A interview, Jim O'Hara tells all. Family history crushes and more.

Learn personal details about my family, celebrity crushes, when I lost my virginity and more. That's pretty impressive if you can like unaided, like unprepared, just make a B plus on a calc exam, I guess. Yeah. Have you ever failed an exam? Oh. I wish that he was taking the bar for people. Like that would be the fucking coup de grace. It looks like he's like made up a tragic family history here in his Q&A video.

Oh shit, he's got a bio? He says, what is your family like? I have two older sisters who are my best friends. I'm the youngest child and only son. My dad died when I was two. So we were mostly raised by my mom and aunt. Fake dead dad for Jim O'Hara. I have several nieces and nephews that I love, like they are my own kids. What else do we got here? My late father's family, the O'Hara's, come from Dublin, Ireland. My mother's family, the Caprinos, from Naples, Italy. I'm 50% Irish and 50% Italian, but I identify mostly with my Italian heritage. I can speak intermediate level Italian and can't have casual conversations

in Italian. I believe that one actually. Holy shit. Tip. He put in all caps. Tip. And this is in the Q&A tell all. Never screw an Italian out of their money. You will regret it. What the fuck? This is a 16 minute slideshow with 12 different champions. There's one video of him touring his house. I haven't been to his channel, but there's one video of him touring his house and he mentioned cats. One of the slides is just titled, Oh, you have a husband? Yes, I have a husband, Dave. He has a fake husband. He has a fake husband.

You know, it's because Dave reminds me a lot of his dad who died tragically when he was two. Yes, I have a husband, Dave. We met in fall 2013 and got married in summer of 17. He's a 57 year old Italian American real estate agent who looks a little like actor Robert De Niro. American real estate agent who looks a little like actor Robert De Niro. He's 24 years older than me, but it doesn't bother me. I am all caps very attracted to older men. Again, this is a Q&A tell all on a test taking. If you want to scrub through this video, Zach, this is him touring his fake White House and talking and in the video he mentions his fake husband Dave several times like, yeah, my husband Dave. He likes his chair. Burt fucking rules. He's so funny. This guy's the best.

The amount of mental energy it takes to do this and then add a layer of quasi trickery and fantasy atop it. Jim O'Hara from Reddit. Jim O'Hara, live in a three story, three family home. Alright. Live on the first floor. Yeah, him and his husband Dave, they live on the first floor. Alright. Yeah, him and his husband Dave, they live on the first floor. All right. I'm looking for any reflection of a black fan.

That would just be hilarious. That'd be great. I hope he's naked. This world clock. What? And that's the timing is off. No, guys, he's great tour. How would they know that?

How would anyone watching this video in the future know what time it really is where you are? This is the dining room. No, but did you see how he's avoiding the mirrors? No. He didn't go in the bathroom. There's another mirror. Oh, he's cutting. Yeah, this old clock. That's the timiest clock. Anyway, I don't want to see the clock part again. Yeah, I hated that part. Okay, this is the bathroom. See, he's not going to want to be in. Alright, TV. Okay, alright, good night.

Interesting. He's got one of those flat TVs. At least my mother is. I'm guessing this didn't have a lot of views before Fishtank. I'm guessing the same. I mean, this one I'm looking at now over here has 4.2 thousand views. Hey there's popcorn. Fuck I forgot to ask him about his pea-focused snacks.

Yeah pause this Zach. We could probably lose this. He like yeah we could lose that video but he had a thing where like it was in passing and nobody followed up on it where he was like when I was a kid I used to list things that started with pee that I enjoyed eating and it was just kind of something that I did when I was young and they were like nobody followed up but it was like Bert what do you like to eat? He's like uh pizza, popcorn, pasta, pretzels, and Pepsi. It was all all peace stuff. And so that feller is we give Woody a hard time for like being being all eat up with the tism and not realizing it sometimes.

But Bert, he's got autism goblins just driving around in his belly. Some crazy, crazy stuff. Can you imagine? No, go ahead, sorry. Coexisting with Burt, he's just such a... You could tell his takes are going to be the star. He's just a weird guy. And that's why I liked him.

He was like some normal, boring dude. He wouldn't have carried the whole show. I feel bad he didn't get his money. I thought that was like a joke. Yeah, I wish, you know, if it's supposed to be a 50k prize, it should be a 50k prize. Do you think he... what do you think the plan was when he rolled that 50k on Black? What Sam said the plan was, was to let chat decide double or nothing.

And then if he won, Ferrari. What? Still not a... $100,000 Ferrari? No, if he rolled it twice. Oh, well then he still wouldn't have enough money to pay Bert though. That's the problem. It doesn't seem like that was a high priority. Fuck, because that's what I was hoping. I was hoping that he was like, look, let's

roll it and then everybody gets a bonus. But if he's like, hey, I could get a Ferrari. It is Sam, so you don't know what he's thinking. Fair. Yeah, I guess it could be a joke the whole time. When I found out that Burt really didn't get the 50k, I was kind of like, oh, well, you know, it's a reality show for 50k. You gotta have the 50k. You think, but the exposure, that's what you're not taking into account here, Taylor. The exposure. Taylor, do you understand that he's going to be dancing on a stage in Fort Lauderdale in a week from now? Do You know how much that's worth?

With airsoft fatty? Can you put a dollar amount on that kind of exposure? Not personally, no. Probably $327, roughly. That's what I would say. You think so? You think it's like a low three figures? Yeah, about $327. You probably get some autographs and sell some t-shirts. You get about $320, but know the flights gonna eat that up quick. I want to read a little more from his Q&A interview. When did you realize you were gay? An entire slide halfway through his

academic presentation. Felt attracted to men for as long as I can remember. Realized I was gay when I was 12. Came out at 15. Ooh, that part's true. They struggled to accept me, but they ultimately did. When did you lose your virginity? I got my first kiss at 19. That seems to check out. My first fully naked experience with a man when I was 20. And it says I've never hooked up with a female before. Expected for a gay. Who are your celebrity crushes? Page one of five. I want you guys, you each get three guesses and I would bet everything I've ever owned or will own that you will not get who his celebrity crush is. 105. Who's um

He likes older men and remember he's incredibly attracted to Frank Hassel. John Goodman? No you were closer you were closer than i thought you'd get um oh oh not deniro zack good guess chris farley nope okay i don't know where that one came from i kind of wish i could take that one back um um what's his name from the godfather um marge marlinito. This is a way to cheat at the game. Robert De Niro is one of them. And so there's only four other to get because he already said that his gay husband looks like Robert De Niro and that he's very attracted to older men. His first of five celebrity crushes. Kevin James. Number two. Yeah. King of Queens. Number two, Seth Rogen. Number three, Robert DeNiro. Number four, Max Adler. I have no idea who that even is. Sounds like a race car driver. And then

Greg Grunberg. Who the fuck is Greg Grunberg? Well, that bizarre. Wait, is this the guy from that Spider movie? I don't know. You have to link me a picture. He's from Lost, he's from Hollow Man, this is the most obscure guy I've... You ever see Hollow Man with Kevin Bacon? No, I've never seen Hollow Man. He gets the Hollow Man, He's invisible He gets this this shit that makes him invisible and he like sneaks around the lab and Elizabeth shoe falls asleep And all of a sudden some invisible person starts unbutton her blouse You're like, oh, nobody's around Elizabeth shoe. What's going on here? And all of a sudden her titty pops out somebody starts sucking on it and I'm like, holy shit This is a great movie and then it turned into a horror movie from there. But there was that that was a great moment

I'd never seen an invisible man suck a titty because you can you know, you obviously see through his through him to the titty Yeah, movies is hollow man. Hollow man. I Can't stop looking at this slideshow Where I would go to find that scene you go to mr. Skin calm You need to be a member there though. Are you serious? What do you think you're talking to? There is no... Of course it's a members site. I mean I'm sure you can get some free content but like all sites are members sites one way or another. You pay more you get more content. I thought this whole website was just like, it told you when

nudity happened in a movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it shows it off. They do lots of things. They do like, like a yearly award show for like nudity incentive of that year. They'll give an award for like best back burger. That's my favorite. I show up for that one every year. A lot of nudity on this site. Best back burger.

I'm seeing it now. Okay. That's exactly as Kyle described, but now I get to see it. Yeah. What are your homelands been invaded? Perhaps by Iranians using a mothership. How do you feel? Ah.

I'm really curious as to what's going on. So what Kyle's talking about are drone sightings over New Jersey. Apparently they're focused on military installations, Bedminster, Trump's area, and something else. Maybe it was power infrastructure. I don't know what's true. A lot of people are like, oh, they're Iranian drones.

They're planning an invasion, et cetera. But I'm like, with their lights on? These drones have anti-collision lights on. They have six hour loiter times. I think they're civilian aircraft being called drones. I think that they're just like misbranding stuff in this sort of hysteria, summer of the shark nonsense. That's my personal take on it.

But I don't know for sure. These are very expensive drones. They would be hundreds of thousands of dollars with a six hour loiter time. I've done my research in this. I've been an expert for hours. But apparently, like, you know how much a drone calls like a thousand bucks or something

for a little one that stays up for 15 minutes. A six hour loiter time and an extra large big drone with some sort of payload would be deep into the six digits, threatening seven. And I don't know what it is, but I just don't know why they'd have, like it's the exact show on a picture right now. With all the lights on, you're telling me

these are spy planes with their lights on? Nuh-uh. Yeah, I had the same thought as well. There was a Republican lawmaker who was on the news, and he was like, I'm gonna tell you right now, Diane, and it's just, I wouldn't say it is, if I didn't have evidences that I will not be able to provide next week. But there is an Iranian mothership that we have lost contact with. It could be off the coast of the East Coast of America. And these drones are being launched from that mothership. They are returning to sea. And when we chase them, they turn their lights out.

And it's like, bro, did you hear what you just said? When you chase them, they turn their lights out? Yeah. Like, obviously, I don't know what the fuck they are but I bet there's at least some degree of copycatting going on where like oh did you hear dude everybody's freaking out about the New Jersey drones hey don't you have a drone let's send it up tonight freak the neighbors out like look there's one over there too and like I could just see like every neighborhood has a block captain fucking with people with his drone but

to your credit I saw those things, and they look big and they keep describing them not as a DJI drone or some hobbyist drone, but as a, a big aircraft of some kind, it's weird to turn their lights off. It's clearly not aliens. Um, I've seen that on Reddit. I see. I don't, I don't think very much of the Iranians and their abilities to do fuck all or anything at all technologically. And certainly not over here. Like I, I don't think it's of the iranians and their abilities to do fuck all or anything at all technologically

And certainly not over here. Like I I don't think it's the iranians. I think that's such a silly to say Am I crazy? Do they have a lot of drones that they gave russia for the ukrainian war they do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Okay. Yeah Yeah, and then that and then they also attacked israel with a big drone swarm At one point that was largely ineffective in combination with ballistic missiles and the cruise missiles. But I can't believe there's a mothership off New Jersey, which is to say off New York, it's basically the same coast. That we're just like letting do you know how much like cargo traffic there is in that area that like the longshoremen bringing it I think when they were going to go on strike in New York, it was going to shut down the whole auto industry.

Yet there's a Iranian battleship out there, like a little drone aircraft carrier going unnoticed. I don't think so. No, there's no way. I just don't believe that the idea that the Iranians could do that is absurd to me. I just can't imagine there's some like crack, some crack vessel of Iranian James bonds out there off the coast of New York in a stealth submarine. And they only surface at night to release their drones to do what I've seen.

The Chinese have cool drones. I've seen them do like crazy stuff with their formations, but, um, I don't know what they are. It's, I like a little media hysteria whenever one of these crops up. You know, we shot down that Chinese balloon last year, whatever it was, and it got revealed that there've been lots of Chinese balloons and people are freaking out. This feels like that again. What I don't understand is why someone in leadership, I hate to blame everything on Joe Biden, but kind of wish the president would be like, oh, yeah

Don't worry about them drones. Don't worry about that. I talked to a guy who knows a guy Not don't worry about that I wish you'd just say that like if you can't tell me that if you can't tell me that oh those are the drones were using to install the The new the new cell tower network, whatever whatever secret you're doing Whatever reason you have for not telling me just straight up what those drones are about I wish you'd just kind of wink and nod and let me know that you know, you know, I mean like The ones in Jersey if they were flying over Atlanta, I would be I guess I wouldn't be concerned

But I would be a little worried at the CDC's here You know I always worry about that when it comes to Atlanta being targeted for any kind of like weird terror type thing. The CDC is like the number one bullseye on this city, I would imagine, other than sporting arenas and such. So what is the theory with the, the, we don't have one. We don't have a lot of them cut. Kyle's on the same mindset of me. I kept talking about how they leave the lights on, which implies to me they're not like Iranian or Russian attack or surveillance things. They would try to be stealthier if that was the case. That's my own theory.

And one I'm stealing from a military analyst. So that made sense to me. They last for a long time, so they're expensive or they're not drones at all. And we're just like looking at Cessna's and calling everything a drone and a bit of hysteria. I mentioned the summer of the shark thing where there's actually like an average shark attack season,

but it was on the cover of every magazine and news story. Every time a shark was spotted swimming in saltwater, which is what they do. So this might be a more of that, I don't know, but it's interesting. And I guess it's, I don't know, but it's interesting and I guess it's I Don't know now. Now everyone's seeing lights in the sky and calling them Iranian attack drones Here that they're like really high tech or do they seem low tech well

So the news which might not be reliable is that they they're spending time over energy installations, Trump's Bedminster, golf course home, and military installations. You're not allowed to fly over some of these things. Forget what they call the no-fly zones, like TFT, temporary flight restrictions, TFRs. And these temporary flight restrictions last for lifetimes. You know, there's one over Disney World that never goes away. And anyway, there's temporary flight restrictions over these

places and you can't fly there yet. They are kind of invalidating the civilian aircraft thing. I mean, that's the first thing they teach you. But it's my own theory. I don't know. I don't know. But it's interesting. So you think it's clear. I don't know. But it's interesting. So you think it's clear? It does seem interesting. I just you guys know more about it than me. It seems like the no-fly list thing would tell you exactly what you said. These aren't just people like they're not hobbyists. They could be liars, right? It could be like the shark thing. It wasn't even true. Do we have video of them being over military

installations in areas where they can't fly? No, I've just seen video of the drones and to sort of work out a little bit of like, I don't know where the lights are mounted and the shapes. I haven't seen videos of it. I need to look at it. Yeah. The part about like where they've been flying near I think is mostly sensationalized. I think that anytime they're near a thing, they're like, Oh my god Can you believe it was right next to this? It's just like well, I want to talk about him in a minute The the fucking what do they call them the adjuster? The adjuster that Luigi Mangione guy, whatever his name is Okay, the claims adjuster

They I saw there was an article and it was like Luigi Mangione played an online assassin and I was like holy shit He did which one and I scrolled to the bottom among us Yes, it was among us that and they were trying to sensationalize his play of among us as like Assassin hitman train. What did did you read the article or hear about the article? Okay. So, I I saw the article and what I saw, I don't know what you saw. I saw Reddit sensationalizing an article that wasn't that sensationalized. What happened is the one of his friends used to play among us with him and he's like, dude, it's ironic that I play among us with him and he's like, dude,

it's ironic that I played this game where you had to spot the murderer and there actually was a murderer among us, right? And then Reddit twists it to this like they're acting like it's a big deal that he played among us. No, his friend was

like, dude, it's kind of crazy that we played a game where we're trying to spot who's sus and somebody actually was but they they weren't- But the article calls it an assassin game. Well, that's retarded. I need to see it again. But the thing that I saw anyway, and it was like, Reddit was like,

"'They're making a big deal out of Among Us'." And it's like, no, they didn't. We're making a big deal out of Among Us. That's not like your Reddit comment section to get things totally wrong. They would never do that. That mean that- No. Dude, that thing's been fun to watch. The tone deafness of the entire news media about the reaction to

the shooting and the aftermath, it has been really interesting to watch. Everyone has their fingers in their ears pretending like it's the emperor has no clothes on a global mass media scale where every talking head refuses and if they do acknowledge it it's only to admonish it. There's a few idiots out there who are hailing this murderer as a hero. Let them know the long arm of the law can reach into your dark Corners and caves wherever you may lurk as well. It's like dude Everyone it isn't right left. That's the other thing like the right says look at these left wingers They want to take out CEOs. It's not dude Everybody's kind of on the side of it. Yeah Ben Shapiro came out Matt Walsh came out and I forget, Joe Rogan, I think, is on the side of the

murderer, if I recall correctly. But yeah, I was like, I don't know. Alleged murderer. Dude, if that would have been the CEO of Palestine, Ben Shapiro would have loved it. Yes. Would have been the biggest fan. Yeah. Got that guy. Yeah, I guess we got a lot of those guys, not we. I guess. A lot of turnover in that position, I promise. We paid for it. No, that thing's been wild to watch.

I saw him get arraigned. They're saying that McDonald's employee may not even get the reward, the 50 or 60 grand or whatever it was. What is that about? Is that truth or sensationalized? I don't know. That's what I read from

Online, I mean look at Burt, you know, you get promised 50 to 60 You walk away with with a lot of exposure, you know so maybe that person who turned him in at McDonald's can dance in Fort Lauderdale with Their soft body They're soft fatty and Burt. They could be third billing as the Luigi Mangione rat. I saw some fun conspiracy theories surrounding it. I haven't done as much digging into the whole thing as you, but I saw some people online

who were hyper confident. I might say too confident. They don't think that Luigi's the right guy. Of course, the right guy. Oh, there his, his, his eyebrows look different here and his face looks different here. And it's like, it's really another, like one of those, uh, you know, where you'll see like the, the, the Joe Biden body double stuff where they'll, where they'll use like multiple focal lengths of camera and be like,

get a load of how skinny Joe Biden's face is here and yet it's wide here. And it's like, yeah, that's how camera focal lengths work. That's how that works. And so when you're looking at a picture of someone on a closed caption screenshot and then you see a picture of their mug shot and then you see a picture of them in public with friends like It's not unusual at all for them to look Noticeably different in all three of those because they're very very different. He had the gun on him Yeah, like you had the gun. You had the letter on him The dude was like

Preparing to get caught it as they're hauling him into the police station he's screaming about like these you know he's not screaming i'm innocent i'm a he's not saying i'm a patsy like oswald did he's he's screaming like you know the evils of the industry will be exposed the american people need to open the right like he's saying that kind of shit you know what i mean like it's clearly him there's no conspiracy afoot. Unfortunately, cause I like a good conspiracy, but I think it's going to be fascinating. And I never know what dictates this, what dictates the media coverage allowed

in a court proceeding, because with OJ, oh my God, it became daytime television. And with the Amber Heard, Johnny Depp then, to a lesser extent for sure, but it became this generation or last generation's small version of that. I hope this thing is the same way I hope we get the cameras in there and get to watch this shit every day because I could see the jury going

The other way on this one I could see him getting a slap on the wrist or there being a mistrial or some sort of you know I don't know what all the terminology is what I don't know the difference between a hung jury and a mistrial I guess the mistrial is when the defense or the prosecution rather does something untoward and then it comes out and Everything's overturned Um, and I guess a hung jury is when they're they're deadlocked and we can't come to a resolution I hope you're right, but I bet you're wrong. I bet they locked this guy away And they just have him dead to rights.

Oh, I'm not sure he's even denying it. He's probably confessed it. He's going away. No, he's got a lawyer in the lawyer said, uh, the lawyer had a great little mini press conference. He's like, let me show you all the evidence they got against my client. Here it is. Here it is folks.

Take a good look. Zoom in. I like him already. Did he really say that? Are you quoting him? I like how you're becoming more Semitic as you're doing the lawyer. Oh, he's talking to me. Okay. I thought he was a little Italian, a little Jewish or something. He's a New Jersey guy. For Luigi's sake, I hope he got a Jew. I don't know who gets shit done more. I don't know. Israel gets a lot more. You don't want a criminal attorney, you want a criminal attorney.

Yeah, he made it a Lincoln lawyer this time around, but I think there's definitely people out there who would go the other way on this one. And you don't know what the proceedings are going to be like. If there's a long drawn out trial and his defense gets to talk about his pain and suffering because I think he's got some back injuries, perhaps his claims denied, and then they can use that as a lead in to some of the other practices of the insurer and they can use that as a lead-in to some of the other practices of the insurer And they can use that as an avenue into that if they can just in court if they can talk about how awful that guy

That he killed was and how maybe some of his policies or his AI implementation It was turning down claims at double the rate of every other insurer Talk about the profits that they made last quarter clearly clearly, because of them turning down what were definitely like, real claims, legitimate claims, that were people, you know, people needed things, you know, that's what insurance is, they needed those things. Right. They're gonna spin a sob story for the CEO. And I did read like, a little bio of the CEO and I would not be surprised if they could get some people to like get like convictions going on the on the killer. I would have a hard time. He's also a good-looking well-spoken like he's he's

well you have to think about the jury it's not about what if we're on there I think we know it's gonna happen but. But they're going to spin it and be like, this wasn't some run of the mill healthcare CEO. This guy was born to a lower middle class family in Iowa. His father worked a grain silo, and he worked his way up from XYZ to become the most powerful AI utilizing CEO. No, I think Mangione's family has some money. He's good looking. He's well spoken. He's highly intelligent. Like if anybody's going to be able to defend themselves and be defended to the utmost, it's him. So like, I think he's got a decent shot. I think he's got a better shot than like the Braves have taken it home next year. You know what I mean?

This guy's absolutely going to jail. Really? Absolutely. You're going to give me odds? You're on a hot streak. You're due for a loss. You've been good on sports and the president. I mean, you should be giving me five to one on something like this. Not for someone as confident as you. One to one is more than enough.

One to one on him walking? There's video of him doing it. He's carrying a note that says unequivocally I did it alone no one else just me and my little old self gotcha sucker. Like he's in his pocket. You can't give me four to one? I could get that on the street. I can get a four to one on the street. You know what I gotta come in I'll give you a four to one, a hundred dollars to year 25. Yeah. I mean, that's not how this works. It does seem like the, yeah, it does seem like my side has the better chance that he's definitely

going to go to jail. Did you see his reading list? And sorry, Zach, I'll do the sponsors right after this. But Ted K. Oh, old petty Kaczynski. But I mean, that's just, that's a, that's an afternoon read takes, you know, 25 minutes to read his whole shit. But also like, did you see like the weird mishmash on his Goodreads, which I guess is an account. I guess it's a book reading account that you review different books you read or like have a book list. I've never used it. So I've used Goodreads. I sometimes use it to help me find which audio books are good. And it's basically, it does two things, attracts

which books you liked and recommends others based on that. And you can read other people's reviews. Ah, it started slow, but it really hooked me in the middle. Okay. Well, yeah, that's what he was on. And it was like, the list I saw was like scrolling through was the weirdest mishmash of books where it would be like the Unabomber Manifesto, Ted Kaczynski, the subtle art of not giving a fuck. And it's like, ugh, that's embarrassing to have on your list. And then like four. And it's like, ugh, that's embarrassing to have on your list.

And then like four lower, it's like, on my going to read, Mein Kampf. And it's like, okay, well, that's a long fucking book. You know, you're not, yeah, Mein Kampf is a very long book. Have you read it? I don't know, you've read that? Yeah, he was doing it in prison. And so like, what else was he

gonna do? So I bet, you know, that was probably 10 years ago. I read through it because I was just curious and it was like, oh, so garrulous. Like there are so many parts of mind comp or he just goes on andative and just kept going. Those are fighting words! Loquacious! Loquacious! I think Loquacious is the kind woman who helped me get my license at the DMV most recently. Oh, come here, sugar.

Come here. He's got a little quiescence on her. Did you see his Twitter results? I didn't see his Twitter before I got taken down. When somebody goes and becomes a superhero on the streets of America, they go through your Twitter to try to dig up some dirt on you, try to find something bad to say about Luigi. One of his tweets said said i want to get the quote right i gotta picture it i need a white chick to go bug mode on my dick right now man of the people sometimes you just need a white chick to go bug mode what does that mean like jack you off like a praying mantis? And every time I think about that I laugh hard. I need a white girl to go bug. You know when he was tweeting that he wasn't like, yeah, I'm gonna kill a CEO someday and this will be a discussion point on the CNN.

All those fucking leech ass friends are going on like TV tv like oh we never have seen this guy's like shut up he's trying to get off you fools like i saw like like they're like oh here he is like on a tiktok one time it's okay guys let's let's calm down like like every every scrap of like footage of him is becoming a a big deal for some reason but well i do look forward to the trial and like like i was saying you may have stepped away for a moment I like I think he's got a shot Just just based on the man. There's a lot of people out there everything I read online Of course, I am in my little reddit microcosm echo liberal

Liberal echo chamber, but it seems like everyone right and left kind of feels the same way that like ah that guy That guy's scum. We all hate that guy. Like, he's not one of the cool, like, hundred millionaires who are building rocket ships or something like that. He's not zany. He doesn't make fun quips. He just uses AI to murder grandmas. Tanner Iskra And Dick Masterson has been having a fun time going all in. I mean, obviously, you know, Dick, like he's in favor of Luigi. And so like, he just like, there are so many people who are like, guys, health insurance gets a bad rap. When I got cancer, they covered everything other than my $9600

deductible. And that's what saved my life. And Dick is like, quote, tweeting all these, these people being like, Hey, retard, have you ever once considered that your situation is anomalous and that this is not the norm for most people? And then, you know, everyone is obviously on Dick's side, like, yeah, a thousand examples of like, yeah, I had the same situation as this guy. I went to the doctor and I had a report sent to my insurance agency with my doctor recommending treatment. And then they said that that doctor didn't have the correct

qualifications to make a distinction on what type of treatment was needed. And that I would first need to go to the specialist 700 miles away before they would qualify me for potential treatment, which I couldn't at the time afford because I would have to take off work. And so, they effectively pushed my treatment down the road, you know, a year and a half. And it's like, yeah, that seems more normal for a lot of people. You get drugged around, you get fucked with, they will take everything from you. We had health insurance through my mom. My mom was a teacher. And that was excellent health coverage. It always seemed like catastrophic stuff happened. My dad had this crazy back surgery and it was hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I think they came out of pocket for less than a used car or something like that. It wasn't a big deal at all. And my mom had two or three major surgeries. She had a tumor removed once and maybe a hysterectomy or something. Like she had some big stuff happen. Always covered. And like us kids like always were covered in everything. That was excellent health coverage. So I don't have the experience with what these people are talking about. But it would be a nightmare to have paid into something your whole life and then need it and then have them turn you down or even worse, give you that bureaucratic, oh, go here and check this box and go there and check that box while you're dying or your loved one's dying. That's how you get shot.

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And Elden Ring just announced a surprise game for 2025. I'm sorry, FromSoft who makes Elden Ring announced Elden Ring Night Reign. I only know Elden Ring. I don't know all the lore and the rest of the Souls game but the Elden Ring community is going bonkers. This is a surprise drop. They didn't know it was coming. It was just announced and it's next year Nice nice super psyched. I Can't wait. I I think I'm gonna get into stalker 2 very soon. I keep getting fed videos of it I'm actually like toward the end of a fallout 4 playthrough I've probably beaten fallout for like half a dozen times, but you know play through it again. It's been a while and

And stalker 2 looks so good. I heard it's really, really demanding. I may actually need to get a new GPU soon. Is the 50 series soon? Soon, yeah. Aren't you on the 4080? Yeah, but people are saying that like- Dude, we're set for so long.

No, no. 4080 and 4090, we can play whatever. It's what I was saying a while back, like- Okay. Game studios don't optimize to hardware anymore No, 80 and 40 90 we can play whatever it's what I was saying a while back like okay game studios Don't optimize to hardware anymore because they don't have to because the hardware got so strong so like they even with the 40 90 and 64 gigs of DDR 5 or whatever the fuck and and the best I don't think Intel's the fastest processor right now. I think the I don't think Intel's the fastest processor right now. I think the, what you call it is.

Even with that, like people are having issues running stalker, I think, at high frames and stuff. I think it's a super, super demanding, very poorly optimized game. Maybe I should wait a while. I think it's also one of those games that's full of bugs. And right now I saw a video where they were like, just pretend like the bugs are anomalies.

Because anomalies are like the reality bending aspects in the game, like weird specters and spooks and anti-gravity wells and black holes and shit like that. It looks really good though. And I guess it's a Ukrainian developer, which, you know, Taylor, I stand with Ukraine. I'll stand with them if the game's good. Will you? Is that what would do it? Well, not stand with supporting their silly war. Oh, well, god damn it, Taylor. But I'll support that game

developer if it's a fun game. It's really Russia's Russia's. And that sucks. I wish him the best over there. Wish him the best. Prayers up, Ukraine. But money, money gone. I'll fire a few prayers out of you. Don't be cheap, Taylor. I'll fire a few prayers over there. Rapid fire.

Some long range ballistic prayers straight over to Ukraine. I bet Donald Trump finds it is hard to get behind Ukraine. He could appreciate a scrappy new dog. That is a wish cast dog. That is very clear. That is not going to happen. Going back on his lowering grocery prices thing now. Oh, those people over at time and you left this latching on to a quick story. I see how you are. All he said was, it's kind of hard to pick the price to go back down. What do you mean make the prices go back down? I never promised every week for the last three years I'd make the prices go back down. I said I'd make inflation go back down and clearly you misheard me eight thousand times. Well sir,

it says right here the prices will go down. There's video of you saying it. You have a giant finger pointing down, sir. I don't know. Looks like a deep fake. And your other hand is a turkey. It could be a huge deep fake. No, yeah. Well, I mean, and that is kind of common sense, too, that once inflation has happened, you can get inflation under control, but you can't go back. The genie's out of the box. That's why you watch a Western sometimes and somebody pulls out a $20 gold piece and everybody loses their fucking mind. And $20 was a lot of money, you know, like, and it's never going to be again. Yeah.

I know. 20, theoretically you don't even want deflation. The inflation destroys your economy because it incentivize people not to spend money knowing that it'll be cheaper next week. And, and so they don't't and then it does get cheaper and then you have this deflationary spiral which destroys things. So intellectually, I know that you don't even want prices to go down but I still can't help but hear this guy who promised

prices would go down his entire campaign renege on it be renege renege. What does that make entire campaign, renege on it, renege or renege? What does that make him? The renege on it. He was close, my friend. He reneges on it before he even takes office. Yeah, it's easier to make wages go up. He's not telling the truth.

Than prices go down. Where no one hates a renege. Actually, I'm pretty sure a lot of fellers in the South do. I don't think he'll renege. I think that he'll do his best. I think he'll do his best to not renege and be a person who reneges. It's renege, right? It's an E.

Dude, we've had this conversation before and we went so far as to do that thing where you get Google to say the word for you. And she's like, Reneg. And then it's like, yeah. Literally, I think both pronunciations are, like people know what you're saying, so it doesn't really matter.

But it's spelled with an E. But oh, I'm on vocabulary.com and to me she clearly says renege i i don't know i thought i said it wrong i thought i said a really bad thing no no enough on board with us i think he's going to i think he's going to try to do some price control things i hope they do some like weird we've never seen this sort of thing before price control things one of the things that i thought was interesting is you hear RFK talk about the dyes and various ingredients that, that our products and services have that our products have that they don't have

in Europe and Canada, for example. And suddenly it's become like a democratic talking point to be like, what's the problem with dyes? Y'all don't like red five? And literally, I swear to God, I wish the FDA this week goes, you know what, red five does look kind of shitty, but we're gonna, we're gonna reclimate,

we're taking the red five out. And it's like, are you serious? Like, you've been sitting on red, I don't think you'd be taking red five out if Donald Trump had won the presidency. And that's worrying to me because your job is taking red five out of things. Like that's your old fucking job. And I don't think you'd have done it if the guy who's going to sick at crazed Kennedy

with the brain worm on you didn't win. Their job is to manage studies funded by the companies and ignore those products and ignore the ones that go against their idea. That's not supposed to be their job. So it is their job though. Yeah, I i'm not up to date on this story, but if that's all true, that's terrible. And I don't like the democrats for what they're doing and saying, I think it's red five. It's such a losing thing. Like why oh, yeah, why do you need to because i I've seen what Kyle's talking about where someone's like, Hey, maybe, uh, all these artificial dyes and like using heavily processed, uh, you know, oil instead of like animal fats. Like maybe this would be a better move. And then like almost instinctively, a lot of people on the left are like, I'm going to go buy

10 Mountain Dew code reds and drink a whole bottle of Crisco. And it's like, well, maybe pick a better fight. Because everyone should be allied on the food being good. Yeah, I didn't know we'd lose Code Red. Are you serious? What else is making it Code Red? Dude, have you ever had a Code Red? Let me just say this.

I don't drink a lot of cold finger soda. Like every now and then I'll get one of those cherry things that Woody's so partial to. I like those too. What you calling it cold fingers. So I didn't hear your word. Oh sugar soda cold full sugar. Okay, I'm sorry Yeah, but but Mountain Dew Code red. I had a co-worker when I sold cars Ken Burton Coincidence the name can't can drink those things every day like multiple. It's all he it's it's it was his sole source of hydration was Like multiple it's all he it's it's it was his sole source of hydration was mountain code red Was he yeah, but but not obese. Yeah, he was a beast but but he could sell a car He was fat but not the kind of fat you barely see he was Kevin James fat he could get himself a you know What I mean? Mm-hmm

What a Bert remember Bert's one of, one of his celebrity crushes. Oh yes, yes, I'm sorry, yeah, there. But anyway, Mountain Du Co Red's a delicious fucking soda. It's cherry mountain to you. It's delicious. That does sound good. Yeah, they're getting rid of Red 3, apparently. Brand new post-election information says it's caused cancer. Definitely not something they've been sitting on like Johnson & Johnson putting arson Taylor to be anti cancer. All right. Let's start with the anti cancer. Yeah. Was it Johnson and Johnson that made the baby powder for like 65 years that had trace amounts

like a damaging amount of arsenic in it and just bestos? Yeah. Asbestos. They just didn't give a fuck because ladies had been sprinkling their posties with asbestos for generations, giving themselves cervical cancer. We didn't find out about it until like five years ago or something. I think it's the talcum or the talc rather that they make the talcum powder out of that's in the baby powder comes from I think talc is like a soft mineral like a soft stone that you mine from the ground like chalk and I think alongside it asbestos co-exists because it's also a mineral and they didn't have an easy way to remove the asbestos from the talc I guess I who knows or maybe it's like maybe it's like they delve too deeply like those greedy dwarves into

the asbestos rich tout deposits or something like that. But anyway, it gave women cancer for generations and they didn't find about any really it would be like, oh shit, here at J&J, we have a real conversation with the board. We found a lot of asbestos. Fuck. Who's the head of the FDA right now? Oh, it's Jared? Oh, he's another guy in the revolving door of high level board positions between these firms and the government regulatory agencies. Oh, nevermind. Who cares? Doesn't matter. Jared's not going to hammer us. Well, but who's up after Jared? Oh, well, it'll be one of us. But who's up after that? One of our proteges. How long will this continue? Probably 70 years. There was a huge class action lawsuit, a gigantic settlement was ordered, but then I think it may have been reduced later on and maybe partially paid out. There was some kerfuffle about whether

the whole thing was going to get paid or where it was going to reduce because it was like hundreds of millions maybe, but a few years ago now. But but you know that's a perfect example of why you need some regulation. I remember there's that clip, I think they're at the Libertarian National Convention, you know, and they're maybe they're trying to pick a candidate for their party, one who can actually make a dent, and this one guy's like, they asked, what about driver's licenses? Driver's licenses. And he's like, well, I, I think there should be some qualification before you operate a motor vehicle. And you just hear, and the guy's just like, all right, be sixth again, assholes.

Be, be so far behind Jill Stein. Nobody even bothers to count. Just get owned again. There is no one who's a bigger fan of the libertarian party than their political opponents. Yeah, I like them. Look, I like libertarian ideals. But in principle, every now and then, we got to make some exceptions here. Like, we should have driver's license before we drive down the fucking road.

Think it through. Like, you probably would have a hard time naming just one wildly successful libertarian civilization because there's so many historically to look at. I mean, the Mongols. Talk about the EPA, right? He's like, we get rid of it. And they're like, well, won't coal companies just dump soot, cancer-causing soot all over the communities nearby? He's like, no, won't coal companies just dump soot, cancer causing soot all over the communities nearby? He's like, no, because those communities would sue them

and that would prevent it from happening. That's the libertarian thought process. And I'm like, what? You want me to sue Duke Energy, Woody? Like against Duke Energy, this is your plan? I need the government on my side. And that's the kind of thing where it falls apart. How do roads work?

Oh, they're all toll roads, I guess. Yeah. No, you're totally right. Like the idea that it should be on, like there should be no safeguard for communities at all is like, like what they should be battling is like ridiculous oversight where it's like, hey, the EPA is like basically charging a weird racket here

and asking us to fund $20 million studies before they approve us to put this pipe in the middle of the wilderness, you know, and we gave them the environmental studies, but then they said, oh, no, those aren't from our favorite institution. Give it to one of our associate institutions to do that stuff. Get rid of silly nonsense, but you do need an organization that's, or at least a role in an organization that's like, don't pollute the rivers. We don't want to turn into Bangladesh or India. Did you see Donald Trump speaking today at the stock exchange? I did not. Election already happened. I just saw still pictures.

So he won person of the year for the second time only president to win it twice and he was sort of gloating over that a bit having a good time with it and The other the other potentials would be a fun guessing game for you to try to think who the other Like I can think of two of them. I can't think of the third. I didn't know their name of presidents No, no, no people up for a person of the year this year oh well there may have been I I know that Kamala was was considered and also Elon Musk and Joe Rogan yeah yeah yeah Harris Joe Rogan but but he was talking about regulation and I don't know the

specifics of it and I don't think he does either but he was saying something about if you're bringing a billion dollars to invest into the country that they would just Sort of you know that video of the guy outside the stadium and he's patting people down for weapons Yeah, just like a Jedi. Yeah, like like he sort of intimated that that's how the regulation process would be for you If you were bringing a billion dollars into the economy And he made a little quick quick little joke. He's like, what do we think for a new nuclear? Reactor week a week enough time to figure it out. Yeah Don't miss quote me. Don't say that don't say that

Going for there I just wish there was some in between that made sense, right? Like Google Fiber, do you guys remember everyone was so excited about Google Fiber? Yes. Gonna replace all Comcast and Time Warner and stuff. It kind of didn't. And it's because it is practically illegal to install cables everywhere throughout the city. And as hard as even a company like Google tried,

there were the regulations were the things that stopped them so hard. Elon Musk wants to do like tunnels and shit like that. And he's like, it's practically illegal to do infrastructure projects in America. Now I imagine Elon doesn't have a lot of patience for like infrastructure projects is not his strength. But I also think he's onto something. So if they do, I'm sorry, I'll wrap it up real quick. If they do push aside some of that challenge, I'm for it. But I don't know that we need to push aside all of the challenge and have new nuclear plants popping up in a week. I do. I want lots of nuclear plants. I want them on the horizon everywhere you look in this

most expensive form of energy out there. That's because it's so regulated out of like being doable. Yeah, we've got the magic. Energy companies more than I do. I mean, here in my area, Duke Energy polluted people and gave them cancer. Like that's not a theoretical thing. Yeah. And that's why you need oversight. But like once it's up in the system. What do they do? They do silver ash in the water system. Nuclear, once it's up and running, nuclear is by far the most sustainable form of energy with the lowest pollutants. Like once it's the reason that it's more expensive

than solar is because there's a zillion subsidies for solar farms and energy and nuclear is pushed to the side. My little pet conspiracy is that these organizations make a lot more money with boondoggles like wind than they would by solving the issue permanently with nuclear. It's the same reason if you find a company that makes money by servicing homeless people, they don't want a solution to homelessness. Their business is done.

The people making wind farms in Kansas are terrified of nuclear being easily available to people because no one's gonna take this bullshit, I saw energy that is inconsistent over nuclear. It is so clearly the future, like it's nuclear power. We figured it out, boys. We've done it. We did it. We did something that would be wizardry to anyone before a hundred years ago, and we don't take advantage of it

Fusion is what they need to figure out if they ever figure out fusion energy Then we've got safe infinite energy It's always 40 years away or whatever They say that's sort of the joke that it's just never going to happen and never be never going to work the way. We'll be a chair noble from time to time. But can you imagine we're all, let's say we're all cavemen. Kyle discovers fire. He accidentally burns he and his family to death in his cave. Do we go, Oh, woody, we must avoid danger fire forever. It is too strong. Or do we go?

Powerful argument. It sounds funny and simple, but like, yeah, I mean, I, I hear you. Um, I just feel like we're all unqualified to choose, which I don't know why this particular thing where we're unqualified. I draw objection to, but we're perfectly qualified for all every other subject. But, uh, but yeah I there's something about wind and solar that seems so simple to me like it literally is just energy pushing around tidal energy like the title is very clean and very predictable and I don't know why that's not better I agree the

title thing does it never made sense to me even the idea of just a buoy that goes up and down with the tide Just just that one pull like has to create some free energy Like isn't it just a float tied to a thing and you lift it and we make a little exactly and there's it Well, there's a even a better one like say you have an island and behind it is a bay Well, the ocean rises up so all that like I'm making up numbers, billions of gallons, a trillion gallons. I don't know is rushing from the ocean to the bay. And then six hours later, it rushes in the other direction. And it does this four times a day, always and forever unlimited.

It will never stop. And I'm like, why is this not a better? I understand the mechanical things in the saltwater are, you know, kind of hard to maintain, but I'm like, this is a very predictable thing and water pushing stuff around is very powerful. Why is this not part of it? And people live by the water a lot. I know Taylor doesn't, but actually Taylor does. He's in this by the freaking river. But a lot of people on this planet live not far from water. And it just seems like something that has more potential

than we're talking about. How do you like that? I agree with that. The dams, I like that. Oh, we've got a, I mean, we've got Hartwell Dam here. That's really cool. It is cool. I've walked around it and driven around it a bunch of times

and you can go fishing down at the Outlet or whatever where it comes out at the end. It's flying over it get a tandem wing up there I'm surprised they don't shoot you down over that a minute Yeah, hydroelectric is great too, but but I'm with you when we've got those magical rocks that just make energy. You know, there's evidence that in the past, there was a naturally occurring nuclear reactor essentially because of the nuclear material, the fissile material just under the ground was stacked together in such a way to create a nuclear reaction.

Where? I don't remember where. Like people utilized it or they're just like, no, it's the thing that happened inside the ground. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I want someone to find like a secret civilization. The Solurians. That would be the coolest thing of all time. Yeah, the Solurians. I think the Solurian hypothesis, I suppose, is that maybe some of the dinosaurs lived and became intelligent and maybe either went underground under the sea or left the planet. Oh, I was thinking more like human societies that have been lost to like

cataclysm or something. Maybe Antarctica is really interesting for that because Antarctica used to be not frozen and not at the bottom of the planet. And it's a gigantic continent. Like I was talking about this the other day, how big it is. It's like the size of all of North America almost, like all of Mexico plus the Gulf of Mexico and the United States and most of Canada

is how big Antarctica is. And it's covered with three kilometers of ice. There's a lake under three kilometers of ice in Antarctica called Lake Vostok that the Russians discovered. And they drilled a fucking hole down three kilometers to the bottom of this thing. And they took water samples of what was down there. And they were so goddamn incompetent,

they contaminated the water samples with like kerosene on the drill bit. And it had like bacteria that's normally occurring bacteria, but they found this one kind of bacteria they'd never seen before. And then they never talked about it again. And so we obviously have gone up there and drilled an even better, better than Russia, not into that one, but I think the Norwegians or somebody drilled a hole into this other Antarctic

lake that's one kilometer of ice above it. And when they sent the camera down there, it was Riving with life that they were so it looked like an aquarium There were so many fish like gathering by the hole they had no way. Yeah life without sunlight is interesting It's been cut off from the rest of evolution would it be supported by geothermal heat of years? I think so that happens in the really deep ocean. Yeah, I Oftentimes it's like it'll be in those pockets in particular under Antarctica. Sometimes it's super high salinity So it can't freeze and it's under a lot so much pressure. It can't freeze And also hydrothermal. I'm sure I'm sure that's going on too

They also found a crater down there under Antarctica that they can see with some kind of LIDAR technology or some shit, some sort of radio imaging. And it's multiple times bigger than the Chicxulub impact that took out the dinosaurs. Like there's a gigantic crater down there. But it must have happened, you know, when Antarctica was on the other side of the planet, you know, millions and millions of years ago. Yeah. But humans weren't wouldn't have even been around to be making a cool civilization then, like maybe they find some like some ancient hominids or something like like maybe stone tools, but nothing. Yeah, like the people, I think humans like us have been around for like a quarter

million or 300,000 years. But like things like us have only been around for like a million years. Like some smart bipedal ape folks. I don't know, homo habilis is one of them. I think that means handyman in Latin or something like that. Cause they found his tools. Yeah, homo erectus and homo habilis. Those were the two. It blows me away how much progress we've made recently. Yeah. Like Kyle said, I'll take it as fact,

humans like us, right, the hardware, have been around for 250,000 years. And it seems like we've gone 249,000 years making barely any progress technologically at all. And then in the last thousand years, from like, you know, 1000 to 2000, all of it happened, you know, the year 1000, what we have like banging metals with hammers that that's as far as we made it.

Yeah. We had like near 1000. We had like taken a step back. We get it took. It took like a thousand years for the rest of the world to catch up to where like prime Rome was like a millennia prior like after after Rome fell it was like all right how did how did they make the these concrete structures so strong and they're like ah damn well we didn't write that down nobody wrote that down. I'm asking not accusing just to set the tone right is it possible that is kind of a Western lens we're looking through and that places like China or Japan

didn't have the same dark ages? I don't know. I think that we've taken multiple steps backwards across various cultures through time. And I'm really drawn to that idea of an ancient advanced civilization because I want them to have like, I want the stories from lore, from the Bible, and from maybe even from like Greek mythology to have

that little grain, that little kernel of truth to them. I saw some crackpot on Rogan talking about the Ark of the Covenant maybe possessing some sort of nuclear or otherwise high-tech element to it because there's a story of the Philistines opened the Ark of the Covenant and the entire city was beset by like boils and they died from cancerous tumors, 50,000 of them and he's like, oh you see, you see, it was radiation. I was like, I don't know, I think they just made this shit up, but like I would love it if it was. If. It's like, I don't know. I think they just made this shit up. But like, I would love it if there, if it was, if that, if the arc of the covenant was a small plutonium reactor that dated back to the civilization 10,000 years before that, it figured that shit out.

Or maybe a hundred thousand years before that to figure it out. Because like the way plate tectonics work and the, the erosion and everything on this planet, like if we just like Twilight Zone disappeared like all the people disappeared and all of our gadgets and everything stayed behind it'd be gone in a few million years like it would all erode away there'd be some plastic junk and there'd be some uh some concrete somewhere but the rest of it would go away there's that whole project and the the point of it is to design a warning sign for nuclear material that will still be dangerous say a hundred thousand years from now. Like how do we make

a sign? Yeah, but maybe better than that. Well, they spent a lot of money trying to figure out what was better than that. Zach could probably find the pictures that won. It looks like thorns to me. The project was not only to design warning signs, but also maybe to design the facility that it was stored at to make it look like a place you don't want to go. The words in English written there are really interesting. Like, The words in English written there are really English, are really interesting. Like what lies beyond here is waste. It holds no value to us. It is poisonous and dangerous. It kills and destroys.

It has no value to you or to any who would venture further. Go forward at your own risk. It's something like that. Like what the English word for it. Every language. Sounds like a quest. Yeah. How much money did they spend? you know every language sounds like a quest

yeah how much money did they spend because i just would have i would have slapped a frowny face on there everyone knows immediately the mugwai people of of of papua new guinea they smile when they frown when they're happy oh true well once they invent boats and get off papua new guinea we can cross that bridge but i don't i don't think they're going to be the ones exploring northern Russia. The Magombo people could stumble upon this radiation in 100,000 years. They won't have advanced very far in 100,000 years, surprise, surprise. So they will not know that this is radioactive. They seem to be set where they're at. Dude, they so do. I wonder what

that is. What's the commonality with those groups who are set where they're at? Isolation. commonality with those groups who are set where they're at. Isolation. Yeah, yeah, isolation. Except I would say there's a difference between chosen non-interventionism and isolation by virtue of the fact that you literally have no capacity to leave. I suppose so, but I think it's wrong to go fuck with those people if that's what you're

getting at. I think we should leave them alone. Oh, no, just let them do the thing on their island like throw it. If anything, like let's try and give them a little fun once in a while like drop a couple of breeding sows in there and give them some pigs. That would be really nice. Yeah, just do something nice for them. But then like hoof and mouth disease is now introduced to the island. All of their livestock dies out immediately. We did our best. Look, that's what happens when Whitey tries to do right by

people. We come in there with some goats and some chickens and be like, here you go. Immediately, they get avian fucking bird flu or something and all of them be wiped out and dead Just looks better than if the Chinese show up they'd have them fucking you know, we're building You know where the world like them. I I'm happy Like I don't like the Sentinels at all I think they should be a little more welcoming a little more hospitable The fact that every time someone goes they're trying to do nice things They give them gift after gift after gift.

And the moment they get the opportunity to murder the hand that's feeding them, gifting them whatever, they take it. I've had enough. I've tried to be your friend as a member of modern society. At this point, I think we should go to war. I think we should... Oh, do you like war? This is America. We fucking love war. Let's go. Yeah. And see how that role on an island off the coast of India. They're not

bothering America. I think you're talking about the 51st state, right? I'm talking to these islanders and we don't want another as much as another welfare island. Thank you very much. We've got Puerto Rico. They are bothering me right now. Let's do something about it. That's true. I don't like the idea of like intervening in their shit because I think they're living the best life that there is. You know, do you uh, I think. No, you're fetishizing primitivism. We need to drop scary animals on their island. You're fetishizing primitivism. If they were living a better life, they'd be psyched about the new Elden Ring game like I am. They would too. They'd love it. They'd put pants on. Do you know who Christopher Langan is? Yes, he's... Christopher Langan. I'll let Woody guess first because I do know. He's a Missouri resident. He's a Cranos character. He's a Missouri resident. He is a Missouri resident and he happens to be the world's... He's the bouncer with the highest recorded IQ ever. He would put Bert to shame, right? Isn't that Christopher Langan? Yes, it is.

He has the world record for the highest IQ. He's the smartest man in the world. He is a farmer in Missouri living his best life. That's what he has chosen to do. So I just think that the Sentinelese Islanders are living their best life. Living in the jungle, fucking dicks hanging out, spears and shit.

Kyle says he supports them. Yet when I tried to Sim City in Civil in civilizations 5 he didn't support me at all Instead he came in there like I would dissent null and killed my fucking you had been in his own age for Millennia it was a mercy kill Glorious undefended people didn't even have religion yet glorious undefended. You people didn't even have religion yet. That happens on turn 12. We didn't waste our resources on armies that defend us

because we were worried on hospitals and universities and Kyle came in there and took them. If people were worshipping the sun. If we were gonna fuck with the Sentinelese, like if we drop like three elephants on the island, do you think they win or they lose that fight? They lose that fight. Oh, I thought we were gifting them white elephants as a problem.

Oh, you know, we're putting elephants on there and the elephants will go, I'm not familiar with this. I'm panicking. And they'd run around and knock trees over. And so then the Sentinelese would have to band together kind of like their own little avengers. I think if they fuck with those elephants, the elephants would kill them. But I think most likely the elephants would starve to death in like, I don't know, a couple of weeks or something like that. No but the Sentinelese would show up immediately on the beach and start harassing the elephants. They'd lose and then they'd go up in the highlands like they always do.

You think they'd lose? They have range weapons. I thought they were like stone weapons. They have no way to kill an African fucking elephant. I've seen, look, every now and then an African elephant goes crazy and like massacres a town and they shoot that thing like 30 fucking times with guns before it dies. Like the Senlis islanders have bows that they made. I think if you like stabbed it

with like an eight inch long knife, you'd almost get through the epidermis. Like it's so mad. It can't be. It's or maybe like the fat too, not just the skin, but it's like, it takes an enormous amount to kill an elephant. They're tough as nails. Asian elephants in India like destroy whole towns sometimes. And I've heard before, I don't know if this is true, but I think the Asian elephants are more aggressive, but they're not as large as the African elephants, or maybe they're equally aggressive. I don't know. Either way, it's a problem. It's a project to use an Asiatic elephant's womb to gestate a woolly mammoth using the genetic data they have. Cool project. Get Elon on that.

They're working on that, and they're working on bringing the Tasmanian tiger back. They have a lot of its genome completed and once they're finished, I think that they just inject that code into a leopard or something, something similar-ish. But they had DNA from a tooth of a Tasmanian tiger and something else. That would be a cool ass animal to bring back because they looked ridiculous. And you could introduce them back into the wild because, you know, they're not an invasive species. They belong there. To put a bow on this though, totally team Woody. Fuck the Sentinelese. They're all, oh, we want to be fucking dumbasses on

our little island. Go away. And it's like, bitch, you don't realize. You're not scaring anyone away. Yes. Like this planet is a competitive nation is a competitive competitive place and you're not competitive. So you're going to lose. Yeah. Would you show them Star Wars? Would you just like throw up like one of those, those 1080p projectors that you like cast on your room wall that costs 30 bucks Like just throw it up on a cave wall or a tarp or something show them Star Wars

Like just just just show them that or Apollo 13 or something like like something really Well, they they just believe all that was real Yeah, what if they were like, yeah What if they said they knew Gandalf and they'd seen him in the old times? What if they said that's Rurukku, the gray wizard? I'd know they were lying about yet another thing. I mean.

Just murder them again. Dude, I brought a topic. I thought it was interesting. It's from Reddit today or two days ago. Are you ready for this? Yes. Fire away. Everyone disappears for 10 years. If you survive, you get a hundred million,

but there's a catch. You begin exactly where you are right now, reading this or listening. All humans disappear, but animals and other species are unaffected. Things like cars, nuclear power plants, water supplies, et cetera, will not continue to function

as if people are still manning them. For example, a car won't suddenly stop working, but it'll stop working over time because of age. All right, food will spoil at a normal rate. After each year, you can bring one person you know from your normal life to come join you. This person will also know you, however, they receive 10% less of the 100 million for each year that passes. You get this right? They get 90 million if they come after you. This person will also know you. However, they receive 10% less of the 100

million for each year that passes. You get this right? They get 90 million if they come after you. You cannot ask the person in advance that they agree to this and you're not required to bring anyone, but you can choose one person or none at all and when you bring them in. Cool. If you die, you die. The same applies to the person you bring in. After 10 years has passed, you and the world will applies to the person you bring in. After 10 years has passed, you and the world will return to the normal state it was before accepting the challenge. And any aging that occurred during that 10 years

will be reversed, but the injuries will remain. You and anyone you brought with you will fully remember the events of the 10 years, but no one else ever will. Would you do it? Why wouldn't you do it? I don't understand what the danger is. It's kind of hard to survive 10 years without the society. Not at all. Yeah, I mean, you just go to you go to one local Walmart, you have enough food for your first two years. Not even that.

For the whole 10 years. But first canned food doesn't go bad. Like canned food doesn't have an expiration date. Like you can eat a hundred years. You're good with those green beans. So food's not an issue. It doesn't go bad. Canned food doesn't go bad. It has expiration dates because of regulations. But like, so like spam will say best before like 12 years after the manufacture date,

but you can open a can of spam 80 years from now. And as long as it's not perforated or like bulging because of rot inside It's totally fine. And and on top of that like look, maybe I I haven't scanned a deer since I was a kid I figured out real quick and I don't have to resort to deer I can go I'll drive to the the the wholesale cattle lot and pick out an Angus beef calf That's like 400 pounds. And I'll just- But that won't let, that won't be a 10 year plan. Those things are going to die off.

But they make more. They're, they're cows. They just infinitely- Will cows survive infinitely on the farm and be there for you to- They won't stay on the farm. They'll start grazing way the fuck around, but they'll live. Yeah.

And they'd be, they'd be incredible in population. Like there'd be so much. This is just different than I thought. Like I think the meat chickens wouldn't become competitive in the wild and continue to thrive. No, they'd die. Right, but you think the cows would. Yes, they don't have any natural predators

in most of the places where large cattle operations are set up, and so they just wander and travel. Some of them would starve in the winter, some of them would, but they're really hardy. It makes sense. I'm sorry. No, you're good. My dad always kept cows. At one time he had maybe 600 and at the lowest he had like 100 or something like that. And the more you have, the more you have to feed them because there won't be enough winter grasses on your land to keep them going

So we'd feed a hundred head of cattle like two hay bales a day and I Just feel like you could do that. You could you could just be a farmer, you know, if you want it to in this new world I mean, it's not hard. You could be the lowest If you wanted to if you want to be a corn farmer and you're raising acreage and it matters to you how many bushels per acre you get, that's hard. You need to go to school. You go to school for that?

It's not a joke. But if we're just subsistence farming, my God, canning food and living off of a few domesticated animals like goats or cows. I would do that hard thing. The reverse aging thing is a big deal to me. So the first time I read it, I read it too quickly. And I was like, well, this makes no sense for me. I'm gonna go from 51 to 61.

And then I'll come out of that. I've got what, 15 years left to enjoy my 100 million. Why would I burn 10 of those 25 remaining years earning money for the worst 15? Like when I'll have some money in my 60s and what does money even get you in your 70s? Yeah. You know, it's ways medical care. Exactly. So I was like, ah, this is a loss, but now knowing that I can come back and then I started wondering who I would bring. Like my first thought was Jackie, right? I'll bring in Jackie. And then it was like, she would be good for my mental health, but a liability for the rest of my survival

skills, right? And I'm so I'm bringing Bear Grylls. All right, he's gonna love it. He's gonna love every minute of it. Let's try out. All right. You don't want to pick one. I mean Bear Grylls was an SAS. He climbed Mount Everest. He'd be You don't need a survival guy though. You can just be living like a camp. I need a buddy. No, yeah, but I'm saying, first of all, your initial plan with all the food stuff.

Bear Grylls. For my buddy. Me and Les Stroud have nothing in common. He's mad at me because I brought him there. You're 100% right about the food thing. Food would be the absolute easiest thing to come by. Being in the Midwest, I could just get in a car, drive out west, find a cattle ranch, and then just combine the easiest part of hunting with the easiest part of farming. And then just do that. All right, I shot part of farming. Like, and then just do that. All right. I shot this cow in the head and then this freezer still works or I can just, you know, save it or dry it.

But then the company is the hardest part. The mental aspect of it is infinitely harder than the physical because with all the resources we have at our disposal, it's not going to be a bear grill style survival experience. You're going to have a ton of downtime. You're going to be set up in a mansion somewhere or just a normal house near a food source and you'll intermittently lose. Yeah, you need someone to play games with, to do puzzles with. This is an easier question if you're gay because you can like fuck the person and play games with them. But yeah, I think I would. I think I would need at least, I'd need to bring in two people,

like a girlfriend and then, ah, but if I brought a girlfriend and a friend. Don't bring me into your personal hell. I wouldn't bring you. No, I'd bring you. And then you'd go, why have you done this? And I'd be like, dude, come on, we're hunting cows together again.

No, I think I get 10 million if you bring me in, right? Oh, really? You get 10 million per year. Oh, okay. I'd bring my friends in every year and just hook them up. Yeah. It seems like waiting a year to figure out who you should bring makes some sense. Like, you know, get your feet underneath you,

figure out what problem this other person is meant to solve. If it's hard to survive- I'd push that button if there were no money. If it's hard to survive. I'd push that button if there were no money. If it's hard to survive, you bring in like Bear Grylls or whatever. If it's easy to survive, you bring in your girl. Yeah, and if all my buddies, if everybody I bring in is getting 10 mil,

I'm just like bringing in brothers, family members, friends. I think you said you could bring one person. What if you see how she's going to age in the next 10 years and then you get to come back and pull the plug? Oh Jesus Christ. That's a little darker scenario. You like that? It works both ways.

That's a way to use Woody's little mangy genie for evil. The end of this movie would be like you on a table in a coma, just imagining all of this. Ten years later, you're like, babe, you got fat and I can do better now that I'm a hundred millionaire. How did you get fat on our diet? And he's like, it was nothing but beef. Bitch, you got apocalypse fat. All right, I don't want to hear it. I can't do it.

No, but yeah, living would be super duper easy. There's just so much meat and so many animals in the south Like I heard apocalypse and I thought ooh dangerous food runs to the Walmart, right, you know like it There's other people who want that Walmart food, but not in this scenario in walking dead Scavenging is dangerous in this scenario, what are you worried about? Camels that broke free of the zoo? You're fine. Yeah, it's fun. Oh, speaking of that, you've seen, we've talked about it many times, the

28 days later, 28 weeks later in movies, 28 years later coming out soon. The trailer for it is out. It looks scary as shit. How does that work? Isn't the key part of that, that they were waiting for them to rot? Yeah, I think the deal is that the virus keeps flaring up over time. But I didn't watch the whole trailer,

because I don't like spoilers. But I did see that it seemed like they were part of a community that was living on an island, and they had a long zigzag dirt walkway to get to the island you know I mean like one of those almost like the internet devised the best anti zombie scenario you know I mean it's like man that's well thought out that I could defend that well you know they got a walk down this walkway and do zigzags in the water and it looked like this is a tower defense game this is not yeah

yeah that's what zombies would turn into so I'm I'm kind of hyped for that because those are some of the better zombie movies especially the first one I'm so hyped I want to do what I did for Deadpool which is to rewatch the first two in preparation mmm that's not a bad idea yeah I haven't seen him in a long time the first one's a little bit hard to watch but it's that really shaky cam and they use that digital It's filmed on digital from like the 90s from like 99 or something and it doesn't look great on a modern TV Mmm, I I'm a I Colin watches a lot of horror movies. Jackie does not so he'd be my viewing partner I bet yeah, we could do a pKA viewing maybe I'm down. There's a

Good horror movie. Just just got added to the flex. It's the heretic It's a you know, Hugh Grant like yeah the romance guy. Yeah, good-looking romance guy. All right. He's a little bit older now He's maybe 60 or so and The movie is two missionaries go to a house and the guy is like overly welcoming like yeah I'd love to hear about the lore come on in and then it like slowly gets creepy and sketchy and he's not going to let them leave the house. I remember seeing the trailer for it like months ago and zeroing in I was like I gotta watch that put the request in but it's out now so uh I'm gonna watch that soon. Have you heard of Leave the World Behind? Have you seen it? I don't think I've seen it. Okay it's really new it's a Netflix release and Julia Roberts is in it. Ethan Hawke I don't know I don't know actors like you. I know the movie you're talking about I haven't seen seen it though So I think the premise is a family goes on vacation and I'm so shaky on this on purpose I don't want to know too much about the movie

But the vacation maybe has a an aspect to it where they're like out of touch from society maybe they're camping or at a beach or something, I don't know beach, okay, and suddenly like Contacted the world drops off too much like their cell phones stop working or TVs and now they're trying to navigate a possible apocalypse in a low information environment and That's like as much as I know or want to know and I'm kind of yeah I think I saw like a little bit of the trailer and it begins with The family's on the beach and the little

Girl notices that like the cruise ship and the water isn't it's still coming like right at them like at the shore She's like it's coming right at us. Like yeah. Yeah, see that. That's funny Like if you miss like it's still coming right at us like yeah. Yeah, whatever. Whatever. It's like Oh that ship's gonna fucking hit the beach. It's like a big big boat and that's all I saw of it, too I think I stopped watching for the same reason trailers give so much of the like if you watch a whole trailer now You'll get to the end scene where the good guy fights the main bad guy Okay, so that's how it ends well no need to watch now I don't understand the modern trailers, although I do this a lot

I I go through like really old 80s and 70s movies with my girlfriend and she'll be like, play the trailer. And I'm like, the trailer for Taxi Driver is not representative of the film Taxi Driver anymore. You know, it's like voiceover, like, he was a man pushed too far. On the dirty streets of New York York he drove his cab. This is not, this looks cheesy and silly, but like movies great. So like trailers were bad then,

they were awful in the nineties. I don't know if they've ever been good. Now they just give the whole goddamn movie away. Sometimes they do that. I'd like someone to really like set up a premise of the movie without giving it away and then let everyone know the trailer is safe to watch. I agree with that. I wish that there were more like spoiler free trailers. Marvel was really good about that. There's some book series I'll notice

that their subreddits are really good about that. I know when Game of Thrones was going down, I think maybe a book got released or something and then suddenly there was this detachment between Show viewers old book readers and new book readers where everybody was in a different page on how caught up they were and they Were super careful to preserve people's spoiler Free environment So I always appreciate that because it does ruin a movie for me if I know environment. So I always appreciate that because it does ruin a movie for me if I know like a major plot point or if I know what the monster is or if I know that there is a monster because there's

lots of movies where is she crazy or is there a monster? Is this all in her head or is there actually a giant fucking ghoul under under the bed and you don't really know until the end? Silo must be mostly out by now. Five episodes. Oh how many are do you know how many are expected? Ten? I think she said eight I think she said ten I think she said there were gonna be ten episodes because my girlfriend's trying to get me to start watching now she's like ah see we'll watch we can watch she laid up some math where it made sense I'm like that doesn't not two a week right I want it all to come out and I want to watch it all in like three days like tops. I want to binge the thing. So I'm waiting till the whole thing comes out. She's very upset about this because she likes to show a ton. I love the show. I think silo is a great show. I am fascinated about the premise. And the spoilers for silo but at the end of last season, the first season, she leaves the silo and goes above ground

into the toxic poisoned world above with her protective suit on and she's going to start exploring up there to see what's going on. And what she finds and how she does seems a little unclear. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I don't know what happens next. And if you don't know what the show is about It's it's a lot like fallout in that these people are living in an underground silo

But the interesting thing and it kind of goes back to that that little part of me that gets tickled by the idea of those ancient civilizations like lost knowledge is a big thing that i'm interested in the idea that if we could just Uh, and it's a big thing in warhammer 40k You know that they're always looking for these fragments of technology from a millennia ago or 10 millennia ago because they used to know so much and now they don't know how to use the technology they have and so each little piece of that tech is so valuable to them to find. What were we just talking about before? Silo. Silo is a little bit like that, where someone has deleted the records of the past. And so now the truth of why they're in the silo,

how long they've been there, and their own personal collective history as a group in the silo is all kind of fuzzy and a protected secret and maybe a manipulated propaganda tool by the higher-ups that have like one of the interesting things was the the average person in the silo that's not even saying enough 99% of the people in the silo don't know what a camera is they have no concept of that technology so the one percent that does is in a very strong and powerful position Because they know what cameras are so they can hide a camera and even if you did see it

You wouldn't know what you're looking at You wouldn't have any concept of the power that it gave To the room full of people sitting in security watching the goings-on of the entire silo, you know Like stuff like that interested me and there were like little pieces of tech that they had deemed to be, uh, like top secret. I can't remember the classification they give, but it's neat, but like little things like the Pez dispenser, they're like, what is this? That's from the long ago time. So we don't know what it is. And I, and you know, I'm watching and I want to, I'm, I'm, it's candy. It's candy.

I want to tell them so bad. That's the worst candy available. The worst candy you can imagine. Um, so yeah, I'm psyched for season two, but I'm gonna wait for the whole thing to come out because I don't like watching week to week with shows like that because every episode ends with lately you find a new thing. There's a new question to ask and I don't like being teased like that. I need to watch the whole thing. I'll probably watch it all in one sitting. I'll probably watch 10 hours of that shit in one day or something like that. I'm so into it. I don't think I'll go back to Sila. Really? Sila

didn't earn your season two watch? No, I didn't finish season one. I lost interest in it. Maybe I'll give it another go. If you guys are both loving it so much, maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention. I think that's hot too. I think the girls hot. I think the premise is amazing. I think they're spending a ton of money on that show. It looks like it costs 150 million dollars to make 10 episodes of that shit. So I'm definitely down. Whenever I, whenever show has a good budget and it's on a good network like that, it's more easy for them to hook me because I believe in them. If there's some little show on like FX or something, although FX is a big network these days,

it didn't used to be. I'm less likely to dive headlong into it, but Silo's good. From season three I was curious, Silo costs 300 million. Woo! According to Reddit, the world's most reliable source of information. Well, Apple that information million like it's not a secret here. I'll

Try to find another story. I know that sounds I watched enough of that show 300 million what is this money laundering? What the fuck are they 300 million? What did it was inside? Hang on. Let me see what the last of us cost as I bet it's similar There's like three rooms of set that 90% of it was inside. Hang on, let me see what the last of us cost, as I bet it's similar. There's like three rooms of set that 90% of it was in. Taylor, there was 144 story underground silo, you think? We're taking a bath because we have a really weirdo director and producer who wanted the full silo. He doesn't believe in CGI. Not a bit. No, not at all. He wanted to use this to parlay his own silo. Yeah, well, there you go. Like, I'm of the mind that when that much money goes into a project, I kind of

want to see it, even if it's not exactly my cup of tea. $300 million is a ton of fucking money, but it seems like the AAA TV shows these days, like from HBO and Apple and Prime, they dig deep and they drop 150, 250 million. I bet the fallout show was expensive. I looked it up, Last of Us was only 100 million. Forbes says 200 million, which somehow to me sounds like the same thing,

even though 100 million is quite the gap, but it's a lot. Yeah. I appreciate that, because it's really nice to have movie quality television and still get 10 episodes. I think that's a nice medium ground. I missed the 24 episode seasons though. Everybody always talks about,

every generation is like ah and my day you walk seven miles in the snow. Well in my day TV shows had 25 **** episodes a year and next year on time. They started a new 25. That's the one I like I before streaming there was a schedule like come fall. You had to have some good shows out come spring. you had to have your bangers. That was when sweeps happened and that's when they'd look at your ratings. Now, yeah, willy nilly you release, just release it whenever you feel like it.

Pretty much. At least stuff when there's no good competitors going on right now. Yeah. Take four years between seasons and then be like, ah, we're canceling after season two because I guess it wasn't as good. And it's like, ah, we're canceling after season two because I guess it wasn't as good. And it's like, well, maybe it could be you lost your entire audience in the half decade you took to make another episode. What's that game everyone wanted a version three of? Half-Life. It is Half-Life. That's what I was going for. At this point, if they release Half-Life

3, the people that wanted it are in their fort 40s They don't play games like they used to it you missed your window. Yeah, it's a it doesn't make much sense I Never played Half-Life. I haven't played Half-Life either. I have friends. It was great I didn't understand why people said it was great. I think I just didn't get into the universe. Was it on PlayStation or something? I think I just didn't get into the universe. Was it on PlayStation or something? PC is where I played it. I don't know where else. Oh no, I think I played it on Xbox.

It came with like an Orange Pack or something. It came with, what is it? Half Life. Is it Team Fortress I'm thinking of that also came with it? That makes no sense. I didn't get that, but I think I know what you're talking about.

Yeah, I never played that game, never got into its lore or any of that stuff. I was way more into Halo and COD and Gears and Fallout and Skyrim and Oblivion. I played so much Oblivion. I've never played Oblivion. Oblivion is the game before Skyrim, you know, and it's, I don't know if it's worth playing in 2024, but it's a good RPG. It if it's worth playing in 2024, but it's a good RPG. It's a really good RPG. It's a lot of fun. Did you play Morrowind?

That's the one even before Oblivion. That's the one even before Oblivion. The purists play that one. That's supposed to be like the best RPG RPG of all of them. But no, never played that. That Oblivion NPC voice, you know, like deep booming like stop right there criminal scum That's the most popular voice to choose when you're doing text to speech on fish tank Libyan NPC cuz I'll just see just screams at you that guy's intense. We were based look like shit

I remember in 2006 or 2007 or something like that showing my mom because it to me it looked good I remember in 2006 or 2007 or something like that showing my mom because it to me it looked good You know, I was like mom look at this and she and she laughed in my face She happened to come in during like a dialogue scene and like occasionally the characters would look good But like I think like the main characters they brushed up a little better, but most the characters dude Comically bad like, like character models. They look like they're made of clay, and any race other than human was scary to even look at. The Beast race is hideous. But it was a fun RPG. It was good game. I'm just trying to follow the pictures of Oblivion face right now, and it is very, very funny. I find like the Argonian or the Khajiit

from from yes thank you. What's that on the left? So you know so one thing to notice here I could tell right away the two characters on the left like our character because they're smiling at him if they disliked him they'd be scowling the way that Khajiit bitch over there is. That Khajiit doesn't like us. Wheres or no. This looks, wheres or no. This looks so much worse than Skyrim. And it was 2007 that this came out? 2006 I believe it came out.

Okay. So that's only four or five years before Skyrim. No, no. Skyrim came out like... Skyrim was 11. Skyrim was out like... Skyrim was 11. Oh, I thought it was 12. Okay. Because I was like middle of college when it... or late college. I played that game so much. I broke that game. There was this...

There was a ring glitch where you could enchant rings and you could just keep putting more and more rings on your fingers until your character like broke the physics engine of the game and he could sprint jump out of the cities. And you know, these are like load areas. Oh, that's our, I don't know. That's, that's not, it's probably a makeable character. I was an upsetting clown. If that's makeable that that surprised me. But that, because that looks like absolute shit that

But you can Oblivion characters you I think they might be it was pretty wacky like I've seen some some Yeah Yeah, dude said one of the faces with the yellow hair early on look just like basher to me basher was this minecraft Yeah, so I looked him up. I was like dude compare this guy to this guy looked just like Basher to me. Basher was this Minecraft YouTuber. Yeah. So I looked him up. I was like, dude, compare this guy to this guy. I didn't realize he was dead. Did you guys know that?

He died of COVID back when it was raging. I wasn't familiar with who Basher was. Oh, so Basher was a Minecraft YouTuber and he got a lot of attention because Keemstar kind of misrepresented him as a pedo. It was like kind of sort of true. He, when he was 18, I think he dated like a 15 year old, but they were like a few months out of the legal range where he did it.

Yeah. So the police looked into it and said, this isn't really a pedal situation. The police psychologist described them as intellectual peers or something like that, and not a guy who's into really young girls. And, uh, there were no charges or anything, but when keeps our reported it, he's like, he dated a 15 year old and he's 28 now. And it's like, yeah.

And he's true of us all. And he's 28 now. Look, who here hasn't dated a 15 year old before? Right. But it's been a while. Wait. Yeah. Wait. No, Kyle is is 41 now. You'd watch video after video getting the wrong impression of the age gap in the relationship.

And it kind of like wrecked this guy's life and YouTube channel and more. And anyway, yeah, died of COVID. I didn't realize it. And his girlfriend Clara baby legs went on to become some level of porn star. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm

not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm well, I was wrong baby legs when I hear baby legs I just imagined that like she's kind of like a puppet. She's got little baby legs that like kicking Sit some cheer. They just kick you know, I gave her a close inspection. She was normal woman all all there. Okay

Was his was his other moniker toasty? Yes. Yes So he deleted his YouTube channel and all his social media accounts and came back under a different name. Yikes. Okay. And then died. Yeah. And then died. And then died.

Turns out COVID actually killed some people, I guess. Mm-hmm. Didn't know that. Yeah. No, I never watched this stuff. I do vaguely remember that happening. You know, it was like, oh, that. Yeah. I never watched this stuff. I do vaguely remember that happening. You know, it was like, that's her. You've got pictures of it and naked in that picture. How old you good legs?

Yes. Good legs. Baby legs is a weird. That makes it sound like you have like weird dwarf legs. Yeah. I never really processed what could be the genesis of the name, but it is weird. Yeah. It's like, if I hear some girl has baby legs, it's like that sounds like a deformity, right? Some sort of issue. Well, I'm on her Twitter now and there are a lot of pictures of her wearing

negligee. Yeah, there's no nudity. Well, dig deeper. Dig deeper? There, that's what I find on her Twitter account. Oh, wow. Well, that is, that's more graphic than what I thought that picture was going to be Zach. I think I know what she was doing. Actually there could be a couple things. Hang on let me see what you got here Zach. Oh! Did it take up your whole screen? It took up my whole screen. That's not semen Woody my goodness. She needs to get that mold removed. Oh does that mold have a hair coming out of it or is that just dirt on my monitor? Hang on.

Yeah. Yeah, it was a little dirt on them. It was a little smut. Sorry, Claire. A little smut on the monitor. I thought you had hair. Falsely accused. Yeah, yeah.

You're right, you're right. I think she was spending some alone time there and not with somebody else. Yeah, yeah. Well, anywho. All right. there and not with somebody else. Yeah, yeah. Well, any who. I was proud of you guys are more proud of Zach than anyone for not producing any nudes of Bert during the show. Like I was glad, usually I'm subjected to that sort of thing. I, in retrospect, maybe I should have brought them

into the fray because I feel like seeing Taylor's confronted with the with that might have been good content, too. Oh, no, I, I found his Twitter account while watching fish tank. And here I'll find the old one. And you can scroll down and find that he is not LARPing. He is a very, very gay man who loves to fuck. Loves, loves butthole. He seemed to take offense a couple of times on the show where they like implied he was taking it in the ass

and he would do stuff like that's not even vaguely true. I'm the top. I am a top. I'm a top. He's a top I thought he said he's daddy Bert Dom top that's literally the name of his old Twitter handle dad I've heard it said that like gay men when they first meet will just freely exchange information like I'm a top I'm a bottom. I'm a bumper switch. I think is the alternative to that and And just like figure out out of the gate if they're compatible in this regard. Why don't heterosexuals do that? Like,

you know, where are you on choking? Are you all are you missionary? Because if you just missionary, I'm not buying this meal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have David Reigns, but like, yeah. I didn't even have a date since the Reigns were in office. That's right. The Reigns, like, are a lot of fun. The Reigns, yeah.

So, there was Nancy. Nancy was making the decisions. On modern, like, shit, would you discuss this, like, in the Tinder moves to text, and that's when you'd cover these things that early? I mean so it certainly depends on what your motive and like what the vibe is what you're going for. It depends on what the vibe is because sometimes it can get sexual like super quick and it could be like like right away you would ask questions something like choking might come up like within the first 30 minutes of talking or hour of talking or but it's definitely gonna come up you

know before we meet you know like I might not be like yeah I might be like so you like you down to get choked out like I'm gonna say anything like that but I might hint around like like some sort of thing that I want to do or whatever. Do you how strong is your neck? Like like leading innocuous questions. How many knots can you tie? You know, like, but yeah, I would I would ask about like sex stuff. Like if you're going to meet somebody, presumably you're going to have sex when we meet.

So it's good to get that out of the way. But it depends what you're using the site for. Like if you're finding a girl that you just want to fuck, that is going to come up. But if you're like finding a girl that you're hoping to date, I would rather broach anything like that in person. Really? Yeah, 100%.

Like meet them first, see how it goes. So you're gonna waste whatever the price of Wendy's is on a girl that you don't know if you're sexually compatible with? More every day, Woody. That's Biden's America. Deflation. There's eight nuggets in there, check the bottom of the bag. I didn't mind when she substituted her fries with a chili, but a small chili, you don't upgrade, you don't upgrade to the large. That's 89 extra cents. I don't even know if she takes it up the butt yet. I'm not buying chili.

Certainly not with chili. No. Yeah. You might ask about like some, like me, me choking, I guess is a good example. Like I'm not really super duper into choking or anything, but if I were, I'd want them to know that you were down to get choked, you know? Yeah, or you just try it.

Immediately, just go for it. Yeah, like in the- Oh man, you could like tentatively kind of move up there and like test things out. Do it like a joke, like, eehh. Right, right. I just want to strangle you. I'm gonna open you up you open up a dispenser?

You're holding your neck across the table at Starbucks. Right. Right. And then you just saw that I feel your pulse. You got a reaction. No, it'll be you. You can put your hand on my scrotum and feel my heartbeat, too. She's like, let me leave. And I'm like, there's no. That's the way I would.

You know, if you see the curious amount of locks on my door where it's like I'm an old fucking medieval lighthouse keeper of 15 different locks and keys in order to let you into my home. Yeah. But that is, that's a funny thing to like to lead with. Do you like being choked? Yeah. I mean, you wouldn't want to leave with that.

That's that I would send some, that would sketch me out. Like if a girl was like, first thing, do you like being choked? That would be scary as hell. Um, cause, cause, cause I'm like, well, I know you do. I know you like to choke. Like maybe she's gonna choke you out like David Carradine, leave you there with your pants around your ankle. I've probably mentioned this in the past, but there was a girl, this is probably two years ago now, and we hadn't gone on a date yet. And we were talking on the phone beforehand, because I like she wanted to talk on the phone. And if I can get out of text and on a phone call,

I'm much better at that. And like speaking than I am at the texting part of it. And so we were chatting late at night one night. And I'm just, I can't sit still. The only time I can sit still if I'm having a conversation is doing this. Other than that, like if I'm on the phone, I'm pacing around. And so I was pacing around, we were chatting and she started like bringing up sexual things on her own. Like I was on a fact finding mission and she was laying the facts out there. And then she like started talking about her history and stuff she was into. And one thing she said she was incredibly into was blood and being cut. Yeah. And that she was also interested in potentially cutting someone

else. And so like, it was maybe it was maybe it was frankly, not long after that was revealed that I was like, All right, well, then I guess I'll see you Saturday at wherever we're meeting up. And then literally like hung up off the phone. And I was like laying in bed like, I'm not I'm never gonna meet this insane girl like isn't gonna happen. And so the next day I sent her a text and I was trying to like, the reason I didn't shoot her down there,

which is like an immaturity of mine, if anything, I should have been more forthright, like, I was trying to think like, what's a nice way to go forward where I don't hurt her feelings and make her feel bad for putting herself out there, but also I don't have to meet this lunatic. And so I ended up texting something to the effect of, hey, it seems great. You're so open with all this stuff. I think you're a little too adventurous for me. I may be a little too vanilla for your taste. And so, uh, best of luck out there, but I don't think it's going to work out me and you. I'm a hemophiliac. Tell her you're a hemophiliac. That would be hilarious. I have no idea how she responded because as soon as I hit send,

I blocked her on all platforms. Like I'm, no, I don't want a blood person in my life. That's vile. That's disgusting. You know how gross that is? Dude, what if you told her you were hemophiliac? Shoot a little. Why is blood inherently grosser than all the other bodily fluids you're down to share? Oh, my. Oh, you're spreading a zillion diseases. It's not like it's not like, yeah, open wounds.

It's not naturally there as a part of sex. Come and like, you know, pussy lubricant, like that's all part and parcel, as they would say, of sex. You add blood into them. Like if I saw someone bleeding that I was having sex with, I'd be like, whoa, how about we rectify, we'll be back, but let's rectify this. Let's get a bandaid, let's grab some gauze,

let's get this fixed because I can't stay hard looking at you bleeding. I don't intellectually understand why blood is grosser than the other fluids. Oh, it's like disease spreading. I don't think the other things are less disease spreading. Saliva maybe, I'm not sure, but like, you know, your jizz, that's probably the same whatever you have in you.

Like it'll probably deliver colds and COVID and STDs just as much as blood. Jizz, that's probably the same whatever you have in you. It'll probably deliver colds and COVID and STDs just as much as blood. Yeah, but when I'm having sex with some girl that I've just met, you can employ a condom so that my Jizz stays inside of me and whatever's inside of her stays inside of her mostly and we don't cross contaminate.

But if she's pulling out her goddamn Swiss Army knife While she's on top of me and taking slices out of my fucking Body, then she might nick something. I don't know what's gonna happen Woody something awful is gonna happen and I don't want to cut I don't want to cut her and you don't cut me You're not fucking cut me. I will beat you to fucking death in this bed, bitch I will kill you are not gonna cut me I would if a girl got out of the night in the bedroom, it wouldn't even be a question of our relationship continuing or the sex potentially happening. Oh, no, we can just do it this. No, you're getting out

now. I'm not taking my eyes off to you to your dressed and out this or this girl sent me pictures of herself like and a severe scar on her back where she's like, yeah, I told this guy to like, just cut me just fucking cut me bad cut me bad. And it was like, like a wound level scar, like with all that that like raised scar tissue above it. And I wanted to be like, this is like we started we matched three hours ago. and we're on the phone now and you're like rapid firing me texts of your previous wounds from being cut and it's like this is this there's no possible benefit in my life to including you in it i'm sorry lady yeah i i mean you're right if i've known some there's so many good normal women out there that don't want to be cut or to cut people.

Like just go for them. What about the upsides, right? If she's down for cutting, think about all the other things she's probably down for. She's been swapping blood with people on purpose. She probably has hepatitis. Yep. Yep. Is that your liver?

No. Well, it is now, I think, but it's a little expensive. You used to have to get a whole new liver. I'll be in a sissy pants. Get hat B for the memes. I got insurance, bitch. Show up with fucking Homer Simpson yellow skin and be like, but at least I got laid.

That would make your impression so much more funny if you had happy yellow skin. I'm dying. You know, it might have been PKN. It was so good. I'm dying. You hit a home run. It might've been PKN. It was so good. I'm like, why are those voice actors so well paid? Taylor will do it for half the price. I wouldn't notice the difference.

I'll have to practice. I've watched Simpsons much. I'll practice some more. Hey, I could do it. That's the scary thing. I hope there's some legislation against that. Like I worry about those jobs and the soul of voice acting

Like I don't want it to be a the same program make doing every animated character out there There's something to like like a guy being in a voice in a room with a microphone like South Park exemplifies it like the way I don't you've ever seen the outtakes like like not as it's just them in the booth and it'll be like Matt and Trey and Bill Hader what was on there Bill Hader what it was the episode where they're talking about steamy Knicks Ah, that's the feather shit just riches or whatever and like they're all laughing so hard trying to get their lines out They're just doing these rapid-fire takes like over and over and over and they're just all having so much fun and it's like I don't replace that with keystrokes like I don't replace that with key with keystrokes even if it's

fucking better. Even on the other side it's not that I don't agree it's that I think capitalism will take the care of this problem either the voice acting won't be as good and the tv shows will suck and they won't thrive so they'll go to people or it will be good and they can go to that. I'm just trying to apply the same thing to voice acting and automation that I would put anywhere else. If you were like, no conveyor belts, we strictly move things with hand trucks in here. Conveyor belts are going to replace all those jobs. I'm worried about those jobs. I'm like, no, conveyor belts are better than hand trucks. People like organic food for a reason, all right?

And they're gonna want their voice actors to be human beings, I promise you. Well then, you don't need legislation to protect them. Now where it does come in handy though, is it makes your character immortal, which is kind of cool for a company like Disney. Super cool, we're all so happy Homer's still around. OK, maybe not Homer, but maybe.

All right. Imagine if a show like The Simpsons ruined their entire legacy because they stuck around for 30 years after it stopped being good. I don't think it's impossible for them to have a rejuvenation. I think The Simpsons could come back and be good again. They're done. None of the original good writers are on board and all the voice actors are phoning it in. I'm just picturing, I don't know,

like is it Meg from Family Guy? Yeah, Mila Kunis. She was young when she started that, now she pretends to be young when she does the voice. But if it was AI, it could be immortal, it could be young. To Kyle's point with the South Park shit is when you have funny voice actors like the South Park guys or whoever else doing it, they will come up with riffs and funnier ways to phrase and say things in real time when they're in the booth. Well, then they don't need to be protected.

Most of them don't. Yeah. I, then they don't need to be protected. Most of them don't, yeah. Like I think most of them are gonna be fine. I don't think they're using AI to replace anybody. I don't think that's a thing that's been happening. What's interesting though is if it brings someone back from the dead or if it gives someone sort of eternal life, because I've seen some actors who are super against it. I can't think of the names names but some guy came out and he

was like so like like like never will there be um you know an AI version of me but then you got Bruce Willis who's like oh you want to make a commercial with me for your Japanese beer company? Well scan me bitch and like all of a sudden there's a young Bruce Willis in this commercial and it looks like young Bruce Willis in this commercial like selling Japanese beer or whatever. I saw it. He's like tied to a post with another guy. They're like back-to-back tied together like an action movie just like for his scene from Die Hard with the Vengeance and you know it's Japanese beer or something. I don't remember the product but like it's like holy shit that's like a 40 year old Bruce Willis. Real Bruce Willis is like

late 60s and not all there anymore. Unfortunately. What was the Disney Star Wars show, The Mandalorian, when they brought back Luke Skywalker? Yeah. Got to use AI for that. He's alive, but that guy's dead, right? That version of him is gone. So if you want to be on Mark Hamill. They did a few things there. So they have an actor who looks a lot like Mark Hamill they did a few things there so they have an actor who looks a lot like Mark Hamill and then they overlay him with the CGI and Then they use the real mark Hamill's de-aged voice to create this like

Amalgamation that's pretty good and then the reveal scene. I'm sure you remember It's like the best scene of the whole fucking series when Luke Skywalker shows up I don't know. have you seen the remixes where they play that? I need a hero. Yes. Yes, yes. Where have all the good men gone?

I've watched that 20 times. Dude, Luke Skywalker shows up and that music starts playing and it's like, it starts off slow, like a piano or something like that. That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And Grogu's like noticing that something's up and like all the characters are making get little close ups reacting to Luke showing up and the music's building.

I think I see the X-wing outside and they're like, great. One X-wing, one X-wing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's great. That that that every now and then Star Wars has those little glimmers of magic. And I'm like, oh, that's what kids felt in the 70s. Like, like, that's that magic. That's that good shit. And that was it that that moment when Luke Skywalker showed up. And I didn't know it

was Luke Skywalker until it happened. I hadn't seen any spoilers. But I quickly put it I was like, doing the math in my head. I was like, I think that's got to be like, looks fucking Skywalker. Is that gonna be Luke fucking Skywalker? And then he like turns on the so cool. I love that moment. I wish we got more more shit like that. I can't remember. I watched Prime Prime released some I don't know what to call it. It's Warhammer 40k like CGI footage that looks like something. I don't know what it is. You're making that TV show I'll find it and it looked but it looked great. I don't know what the really from or for hmm, I

Think it might have been a teaser for the show But it it got it got me super I'm not happy with the slight wokenification of the Warhammer universe, just f***ing plastic to nerds, I am super into the lore of it and everything. And there's like a clue. I don't know. I like the idea of the space marines.

I like how ridiculously overpowered they are and how f***ing cool they are. I like everything. They're rare, right? Uh, but I mean, can 10 of them take on 40,000 something else's? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's some saying it's like one of them to win a war and like 10 of them to

conquer a planet and like a hundred of them to end a race or something like that. Is OP. Good gosh. They're like super OP. How many do they have? If it's more than like 60, what? Yeah, that's too many. It depends where you are in the timeline. There have been times where there are very few and there have been times where there are very many. Like I think the most recent lore is because the

numbers were depleted that they made a new version of the space marines the Primaris marines they're like that are even bigger and Badder than the the previous versions. There's always a bigger version And the issue was they made more ones for some of more women They made like they made the most elite of the elite Also girls they added some women to that rank of people. And it would be like saying that there's like girl angels in the Bible all of a sudden. It's like that. It's not that there's plenty of like crazy overpowered female characters in the Warhammer universe

that are superpowered or not superpowered or whatever. It's not the female inclusion. It's that they made the most elite of the elite, the golden warriors that protect the emperor with their lives. They made some women versions of them. And I don't know who they're appealing to, because I promise you the fan base, bunch of fat dudes in basements, you know,

Roland and Henry Cavill. Look, dude, he just, you've heard of people ruining a curve for everyone. Henry Cavill like sweetens that curve out for all those lovely dudes. Like the average Warhammer guy's pretty good looking. Like he fixes it for everyone. I don't know if it's still true,

but the highest paying major at UNC was geology because that's what Michael Jordan studied. Yeah. That's very funny. Oh, UNC news. Did you hear about your new head coach? Yeah, Bill Belichick, right? Bill Belichick. Yes. He apparently presented them with some 400 page dossier on what a program needed to be

if he was going to take the job. And I think he's going there to be their head coach at UNC, which is- Wow. That's fun. Well, I mean, Woody isn't stoked about that. If you know Woody is a NC State guy. Mostly NC State. I am willing to root for UNC.

I have paid for, for some reason, five years of tuition. At UNC. have paid for for some reason five years of tuition. UNC. But so I get to root. They have a doctorate program. They do. They do. You should have paid them at the end in exposure. Wonderful.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll talk about you on my podcast. Dude, Woody digging into that was making me so uncomfortable.

It was one of the better parts of the show. Yeah, I thought it was fun. I wanted to know, but Bert's such an unknown quantity that I was worried he might lash out or something. Maybe content also. Worry about your money, motherfucker! quantity that I was worried he might lash out. Or something. That'd be content also. The reason. Worry about your money motherfucker.

The reason he doesn't care about it at all is exactly the reason I said, like he was making a point every time the money was brought up to be like, I don't care about the money. I'm not here for money. I don't need your money. I think that cost him the other 35 grand. I bet it did.

Yeah, because no reality show wants to hear the potential front runner be like, oh, this big prize, who gives a fuck? I make way more than I make more than 50k every month with my cheating business. And I'm sure Sam Hyde's doing really well, but maybe not so well that he wouldn't prefer to have the 50 grand. He's not Elon Musk, where it doesn't matter to him in the slightest. I think he gambled the prize money away. I mean he did. Yeah.

But okay. You're not supposed to do that. No. Captain Obvious, where's my uniform? Dude, honestly, I think that's fucking sick. Gambling all the prize money money on one roulette spin. That's the kind of shit that like the worst dad in a holiday movie would do. He'd like take all the Christmas money and gamble it at the track and then

the real Santa Claus has to show up at the end to save Christmas. But we never fix the problem of the drunk abusive gambling stepfather. We just leave him in the picture and Santa brings me terrible thought it's like It's like the angels in the outfield dad. Yeah, you win the pin it I Move to Alaska. He's like I'm just turning in my my ten-year-old son for a doctor I'm in people forget that like we catch all of you up who are Those I love that movies loved angels in the outfield. It's a pretty good fucking movie

Basically, this kid's estranged father tells him hey kid, uh, I Won't be a dad anymore I'm gonna move to Alaska and get some pussy or something and I'm gonna give you to the state Like this kid's like 13 or something. He's like I'm gonna give to give you. He's like, I'm going to make you an orphan. You're giving I'm giving you to strangers. They're taking you so I can go to Alaska. And he's like, please dad. What if the angels win the pennant?

Which by the way, isn't the pennant just your like division? Yeah. I don't think that's even the, it's not even your conference is it? Or I mean, it's the other way around. It is your conference, right? It's like the national league is making it to the world okay, so he just needed the angels to win the American League He doesn't even need them to win the series and he's like yes, let's stay angels win the pennant I won't

Abandon you to the state and this kid prays so hard that an angel played by Christopher Lloyd from back to the future comes down And just arts playing bad comes down and just starts playing bad baseball. He just starts playing baseball. Not so hard. We fucked everything up, Marty. And he's just helping them cheat at baseball. He's literally like carrying the fat guy around the bases to run faster and like lifting the outfielder so they can make catches and shit like that. And the whole time you're like, there's no way this kid's dad's staying.

He don't care. Yeah. This kid's dad has checked out. Like, as a kid, I didn't fully get that part of it. Like I thought like, yeah, if they win the pennant, they're going to have a happy family again. And it's like, no, the dad's a piece of shit. Like you can't think of that with baseball. Yeah. That was the dad being like glib and shitty. Yes to his son. Well, I'm never gonna watch that movie again So I will always have fond memories of it. I was so good. What's what's the other one where? The kid like falls and breaks his arm, but it heals in such a rookie of the year rookie of the year

I love that one, too that's the one that made me think that like eating ribs would make me big and strong. Cause I watched that. Remember that guy at the very end who like, he loses his power to pitch at the very, very end of the film. And then the giant Yankee player is like chewing spit

and like spitting. And then he has to do this like weird hail Mary underhand throw that goes like a hundred feet in the air and barely becomes a strike. So like in the end it was like, wow, he really did have it in him. But it's like not that fucking giant guy who plays fucking Yankees. You're forgetting the best part. You're forgetting the best part. So the whole movie, the kid thinks that his dad is the baseball fan. And so he becomes a baseball fan because his dad left him his ball and glove

and his hat and everything. And he idolizes this estranged father so much that he becomes a fan just because he knows his dad played the game when he was a kid. And at the end, the mom reveals, no, I played ball. I played ball. That's my shit.

You're idolizing my hobby. And the way I pitch, because she, it's softball, is that obelisk pitch or whatever it's called, where you go like crazy high up and it like falls straight down. And he throws that for the last strike and like wins the penalty for the team.

And without, with no angel assistance or anything, well, that movie didn't have angels. I'm mixing them up. But, you know, without his magical like super fast arm, that's a good movie. That was a good movie. That I'll never watch again. That was a fun fantasy as a kid.

Cause you remember like that weird like rubbery stretch sound that played over every time he like cranked his arm back and then he would throw it. And then all the, all this, all the scouts scouts are like Tony you gotta get a load of this kid 11 year old Becomes a catapult you'd have every like orthopedic surgeon in the world studying the makeup of his shoulder Did in real life someone for the Yankees would have like assassinated him like did like an organ retrieval for his Tommy John And then put it in one of their guys. Yeah, that's a no. I like those movies as a kid

There's those child sports movies that I don't think they make anymore. That's like not even a genre anymore They were just not in the not in the wheelhouse for it anymore. Like I would see it He would like come across my role in our late 20s. Yeah. Well,, when you're late 20s like us, cool cats like us, you know, you know, you know, when you're a 2000s kid like us. Yeah, I think I would. But like I'm thinking about like the green mile that when when all the kids were playing soccer or all the airbud movies or what's the one where they play baseball or where the kids play the Sandlot? Oh excellent I've seen that a thousand times

loved it yeah the Sand... Green Mile has the same redheaded kid from Sandlot in it but he plays soccer in it. Didn't he get skinny that redheaded kid? He got skinnier he acted some more he's in a fun episode of the X-Files. That's a bit of a comedic episode. It's that trope where basically Mulder and Scully are in trouble at the very beginning and we get the episode played to us backwards. We get recapped to us and they each have a completely different version of what happened. And in Scully's version they meet Luke Wilson playing a small town sheriff and her version he is good-looking and he is into her he is flirting and put on this southern charm

and yes ma'am I never thought of it that way thank you thank you for dipping his hat and then you go to Mulder telling the story and the guy's got these big buck teeth and he can barely talk through them and she's like he had big buck teeth he's like hey let me tell it the way I remember it. And I don't know how I got onto that. Yeah. So I was on Reddit, totally different topic and praising for YouTube sensors.

This woman was talking about having her first time but she was curious if it was really her first time because she had had an involuntary first time, which is sad. And my question is, oh, I'm sorry. So everyone on Reddit was like, no, you're still a virgin. That was involuntary.

It doesn't count. And I was like, oh, I didn't say anything, but I always thought, like, it's an unfortunate history, but that was your virginity. Are you a virgin if you have had a penis in you involuntarily before? No. Yeah, I think of it the more the way you did, where it's more of a cut and dry thing.

Remove any surrounding, even horrid, awful circumstances. Right. That's how it seems to me. We are outnumbered like a thousand to one in this comment section and I'm like, am I in crazy land? Yes, yes you are. You're in crazy land. Dude, it's like that all the time. For one thing, they're being reassuring and they're trying to say, Yeah, they're trying to be kind. They're trying to be sweet.

Yeah, which is why I said nothing Yeah, and in some way what they're saying is true because like the first time that she's making love The first time that she's willingly having sex like yeah, that is your first time, but you know okay, okay? Doing that like that other thing that happened to you is like barely even sex. That's a violation You know so so so so by, sure, you should think of it the other way. That's definitely the best way to philosophically think of it. But if you're getting this thing down to nuts and bolts, as it were, then I'm sorry. You know, in fact, it's a fact, and that's awful. But yeah, that's how Reddit can be sometimes. Sometimes it can just be sweet and reassuring, but sometimes it can be an absolute echo chamber

of non-fucking-sense. There's the two chromosomes, or XY chromosome subreddit is like, I've blocked it so many times, the app doesn't know what block means or it doesn't care. Because I get, that shit comes across my feed. Is that like a red pill? The XY chromosome?

I don't know what XY chromosome is. What that like a red pill? I know I chromosome know what xy chromosome is What is that? It's girls. It's just like oh, so it would be xx Okay, maybe it is. I i'm picturing it in my head, but I in any case It's awful and any relationship subreddit whenever there's a Divorce him, right? Should I do? I don't know My boyfriend raised his voice when I slapped him and it sounded kind of feminine. Is he gay?

And they're like, girl, get away from that. You a lesbian, you stay with that man. It's always the most crazy shit. I'm like, wait, did I miss something? Is this a joke I don't know about? Is this a riff? And they're like, no, run, he's gonna beat you. I don't know.

It seems kind of like, he just shouted that one time, it's been 10 years of marriage? Right, oh, that's a thing too. They throw, so. I think it's fine. I do think relationships can be discarded over small-ish things when they're.

Bloodletting. When they're brand new. I dated this guy for three weeks, it seems like he does this thing that I'm not down with. It's like, oh, start over. You're three weeks into this. It's not that big a deal. He was a Dracula.

But then the other time, they have children together or they're married and they have children and Reddit is still advising to just ditch this. Never come back. Oh, did he look up his ex-girlfriend on Facebook and not talk to her? That's a red flag. I'd be talking to an attorney in the morning and it's like, really? Because he checked out how she turned out? Like, I don't know, they go wild on the divorce or anything. Literally, that's an example. Absolutely. There's no telling how many

like horror stories there are of women. It was like, I listened to Reddit. There's no telling how many like horror stories there are of women who's like, I listened to Reddit. They were wrong. They were wrong. First, I believed him about the Boston bomber guy. Zarnaev. Yeah, Zarnaev. I'm glad that they didn't get this, the Luigi Mangione situation wrong.

Or it didn't like railroad some guy or, or anything like that, like they did with the Boston bomber. Cause that was crazy shit. Yeah. Well, everyone is also coming down against the Boston bomber because it was indiscriminate. I would imagine, like I don't really use Reddit, but are most of the people there in favor against it's nothing but fun memes about like, about it'll be like, Yeah, that would have been like, you'll have the one of the funnier ones. It's Mario reading like a list of things

that have happened to him. And the implication is, you know, I'm next, you know, these things have pushed me too far. I'm Mario. He's the, you know, little, there's lots of little smart memes leaning into the whole thing like that. I see tons of I can fix him's, you know, he's looking real handsome and all these

ladies are like, I can fix him and the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, is he, is he gay? No, but they, they, they, you know, they'll turn him. They can fix him. Burt would try to fuck him. He should have asked her that like, like what he thought about the, Oh yeah. I wish have asked for that. Like what he thought about the... Oh yeah.

Bert, we don't want to ask you about any of the political implications. Do you think he's cute? We should have done a hot... We should have done Smash or Pass, and we should have had like Baron Trump, the New York shooter, and... Who's the Jew that always wears his yarmulke that has autism?

Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro, yeah, throw in a bunch of cute whitey. Ben Shapiro's a good looking guy, short but good looking. That's Burt's type. Maybe Burt would like that. Dude, Burt would love Ben Shapiro. Think about it. A fellow intellectual, small white man.

He likes older men. And they're both kind of rapid talkers. Like that would be a fun conversation to listen to. They sound a little alike. Yeah, there's a similarity there for sure. I don't know what that says about Ben Shapiro. Burt has a very unique cadence. Yes, when you were doing his impression,

I thought it was exaggerated. And then I heard Burt even for just a moment. I was like, Oh, that's pretty on target. Yeah, me too. I had the exact same because I don't watch the show at all. Um, I just go on what you've told me. I tried to watch it one time, but it may be tried to make me make an account and then, ah, I'm not doing all that. I'm doing all that. Doing all that. It takes a lot. They of treatment on their YouTube also So if you don't want to make one you just go to their YouTube. Oh, I could have done that I actually have a YouTube and seen it. Okay. Yeah, I should have done that

I've actually what the last season I watched some of that on YouTube for sure Yeah, you guys ready to rap I am all right Busta Rhyme already It's time time All right. Bust a rhyme. It's time already. Oh, it's time to wrap. Okay. All right. PKA 730. Check out Bert. He works for Exposure apparently. Link in the description. And our sponsors by the compills, MakerDictar, etc. PKA 730.