Painkiller Already - PKA 731 W/ Wendigoon: Gaslight, Gatekeep, Its a Me Luigi

Episode Date: December 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKA 731, our guest, Wendegun is supposed to come, I've heard 10 minutes, I've heard halfway through the show, we'll see, and Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Bluechew, Lock and Load, our wonderful merchandise, and Christmas. It's the Christmas season, Merry Christmas to all, a season of mirth, of joy. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Have you all. Shoot big loads. Yeah. I mean, show me where that's written that he doesn't. Chris Cross. I'm glad you made that clear, Taylor. It's Christmas season. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Don't Trump won the election. It's Christmas season. Did you see that little kid correcting Jill Biden? No. Oh, it's making the rounds. You know, it's so funny. She comes out to all the kids for the Christmas party or whatever at the White House. Hello and happy holidays. And a six-year-old goes, happy Christmas.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Happy Christmas. It's a six-year-old. Actually, that sounds like a very British way to say. Happy Christmas. Really, Merry doesn't sounds like a very British way to say, like they'd be like, happy Christmas. Really Merry doesn't sound like the more British thing to say. Merry Christmas. Okay. They're both pretty, what are you doing in the voice? They both seem pretty British.
Starting point is 00:01:15 But yeah, well, happy Christmas to that six year old boy and happy Christmas to all. Did you guys buy all your presents? No. No, it's the 19th. I bought for one person and I'm not done yet. You want a recommendation? Christmas to all. Did you guys buy all your presents? Happy Christmas to Jill Biden. No. No. I bought for one person. I'm not done yet. You want a recommendation? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We can get our ladies the same thing. I'm getting her a thousand dollar robot that cleans the house. Dude, I started live streaming and Jackie's down like, well, Woody's upstairs working. I guess I should, the house is getting spotless. She said, like I streamed for five hours today. She cleaned for five hours. I didn't know this was gonna happen. I didn't see this coming.
Starting point is 00:01:52 There's a fricking Christmas, I don't know how to call it, but it's like, it's all white. It's clearly Christmas reef tank theme display she made on the coffee table in the Game of Thrones room. I mean, it's big. It's like five foot by five foot with fish and snowflakes and shit. If I had to draw this like I have no idea what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can send you a picture if you're a fish and Santa. Yeah, not too far from that, I would say.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, actually, I love that idea. Like a like a fishy nativity Little sacrilegious, but but he was a fisherman so he'd be cool with it. Yeah, I mean Fisher somehow the same thing. I don't know why the bumper stickers work that way. Taylor. Can you explain that? Can you decode why Jesus means fish? cry thing yeah, I'll fire off Teach us all right couple reasons for one thing. He did work as a fisherman part-time. He was out there on the waves How else did he walk on water during that storm and freak all those other fish?
Starting point is 00:02:51 It was a gig economy But the main thing with the fishes is Christ did this thing called the sermon on the mound where he gathered up I don't remember the number Do you know the number of people who came to witness the sermon? Well, there were 12 at that dinner more like 1200 There's gonna be like thousands of that. We're thinking of. Yeah. Yeah. They said like like 1000, 1500 people show up. And all he's got is like one loaf of bread and like a basket of fishes,
Starting point is 00:03:15 like like like a like a lot, like a little basket like like a and somehow. And he starts feeding everybody and it just never runs out. He's able to feed everyone with his one loaf of bread and his little basket of fishes. He feeds everyone at the Sermon on the Mount. One of his miracles, of course, also the water into wine and healing all those sick people. Carrot Top has a similar bit where there's just more
Starting point is 00:03:36 in that trunk than you think. God, enough to feed thousands of people. You can't eat those fucking kerchiefs that he's pulling out of his mouth. Remember that? By the son of the Lord, who knows? beneath those fucking church. The son of the Lord, who knows? What about my like a fun thing if Jesus was like, oh no, I've only got five fishes.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And he like kind of did a bit with it where he's like, what's the, what's this in my cloak? Another fish? Everyone's just learning. You have a fish behind your ear. Every single person in Galilee or wherever would be like, dude, did you go to the Jesus show? Insane. I've never seen anything like it. I was taking fish to go home with. You just get pulling them out.
Starting point is 00:04:22 He pulled us, poured us all a glass of water, and then with a wave of his hand, we got drunk. Yeah, it was free. At one point, the Lord Almighty removed his own thumb and then blood. He placed it back upon the same hand. I thought it was funny. But when he had my nose, I was scared.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah. I get it back. That's actually a plot point in that Viking show. They kidnapped this Roman entertainer and he's got like vaudevillian magic like pulling your like, Oh, got your nose and they go, Oh, Oh, give the child his nose back, please. Like they're all freaking out because they think it's real magic. But yeah, that's possible that the Christ our Lord traveling just musician, magician, musician, huh? Yeah. I don't mention that. But yeah, that's possible that the Christ our Lord. Well, you're traveling just musician, magician, musician. Huh? Yeah. I don't mention that. But you I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:05:09 You know, that is the reason for the fish thing. It was like a symbol of belief in Christ following the Sermon on the Mount. Yeah. So very good, Kyle. Not really the story of Christmas. Well, no, that doesn't have anything to do of Christmas. Christmas is somebody put a hit out on all of Jesus and they had to flee Bethlehem or wherever they used to live or go to Bethlehem and hide out and give birth in a manger. And I always thought like that's the most filth. We romanticize giving birth in a manger so much. Like a manger is a is a sloptroff. It's a sloptroff. It's a like and uh
Starting point is 00:05:48 he would just think that maybe we just hold the baby right? Why don't they put him in the sloptroff? I don't believe it. They're tired. They've been walking all day. Their feet are sandy. Like David's been cucked. David. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Dude, raping that guy's, what was she, a fiance or something? And her sleep was? His wife. They hadn't had sex yet, Woody. They had only been married for some few years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Well, I just assumed since she was a virgin that they weren't married yet. That would make sense if this weren't a made up story. No, it's that I don't believe Mary was a virgin Canonically, I believe it was that it was a virgin birth virgin birth like she had had sex with her husband, but Jesus was a result of Not sex like like God rape. I got made her well No, not that the angel of the Lord came down. Yes. Well, she consented. Yeah. After the fact.
Starting point is 00:06:46 No, you neither. Do you know anything? Anything. I thought the angel of the Lord came down. Oh, if we're arguing about Christianity, when to goon and I are going to run the table. How does it think it to you? I don't. That the angel of the Lord came down to Mary and she's like sleeping alone for some reason again, her husband's not in bed with her and he's like, yo, yo, so I work for Diddy.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I mean, God, and last night some shit happened and, and, and now you are pregnant with the son of God. And don't worry, we got all the bills. We got the education. Just keep this quiet. Your husband's probably gonna beat the shit out of you. That's not on us. That's not on us. That's not on us.
Starting point is 00:07:27 No, I believe it was Archangel Gabriel came down and said, you will soon be pregnant with the Son of God. And then Mary was very excited about that and was like, whoa, nice. Gabriel? I think it was either Michael or Gabriel, right? I'm saying it's the angel of the Lord because that's how it was always like said on said to me said on to me Let's use it when Wendigo gets here and just not acknowledge it I Googled are you and it just to learn is AI, which is usually like shittier than the other results you get off Google.
Starting point is 00:08:06 But anyway, it does say yes, Mary gave her verbal consent to the conception and pregnancy and birth of Jesus. So I guess it's Luke's story, but it wasn't Luke who told her. I don't know what Luke has to do with this. He wrote it down. Yeah, one of the gospels,
Starting point is 00:08:21 Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, they all wrote the same story. If Gabriel did the talking, why isn't it like, shouldn't Gabriel have a book? He's a, he's a He's an angel. They don't get, they don't get books. An angel, which is a person with wings. Well, they're pretty spooky. No, if you read it. Actually, well, they, they Not at all a person with wings. I feel like Michael or Gabriel. They shoot you with an arrow and you fall in love. Don't fuck with my Bible knowledge. That is a cherub. They call that a cupid.
Starting point is 00:08:48 This is my subject matter expertise. Oh, and then it also does say that Gabriel explained and Mary gave her consent, which sounds like there's an order of operations problem. But again, it would be unwise to enter a debate about Bible stuff. You need algebra to make that not a- Was it really Gabriel? Yeah, I think you're right. Hell yeah. Look at that. Steel trap. Dilapidated the salt water.
Starting point is 00:09:20 You've got a better preacher than me. I remember my preacher and even then thinking like this guy's saltwater. You have a better preacher than me. I remember my preacher and even then thinking like this guy's that's not really cutting it up there. He's all red faced and bald. Like, why are we paying for this guy's housing and his car and his wife? Do we pay for that guy's kids clothes? I remember asking my mom that one time, like, like,
Starting point is 00:09:39 I was like, so who pays for Raymond's clothes? Raymond's like the preacher's son. She's like, well, the preacher does. I was like, okay, but you said we pay him. That, yeah. I was like, so we buy Raymond's clothes? If we give more Sunday, does he get better clothes? And we had this little talk.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And at the end of it, I was like, this is a fucking scam. Raymond's getting this money. I thought that, because they give the kids the money to put in the plate. Like, it's like, he has to be a part of it. Be part of it. You put the money in the little gold plate as it
Starting point is 00:10:07 comes around and I thought I was giving God some some ones because he needed that shit I thought he was up there making something happen he's a stripper he does shit for once he does shit for once look every little bit helps all right and I and when I found out the opposite I was blown away I that may be when I lost my faith. That or when those old men started speaking in tongues and I was just like, pro. That's pretty bizarre. My dad yells at me when I do that at the table.
Starting point is 00:10:34 There's no way that you can get away with it here in front of all these adults. I remember I went to a church with a friend when I was very young and they went to one of those tongues, speaking in tongues, churches, wild. It was wild. And I may, I think it might've even been a slow day. I only saw like two, three people tonguing out and it was like pretty, it was, it was a lot for like a seven year old because I was used to like regular boilerplate church where like the main concern as a seven year old is like, if he doesn't wrap it up soon, then me and Alex and the neighborhood boys,
Starting point is 00:11:09 they're going to get home from their church first. And then they're going to get the good side of the Creek for our airsoft fight or like whatever the concern was. But yeah, that was a different day. I was kind of transfixed on it and like, what, whoa, what's this guy, you got to sing and dance. No, there was no dancing at any church I went to, but there was singing. What did y'all do in there? My god, would you do handbells, choir? No, if we were just out in the, the audience, we were, it was just singing and clapping. You got a Sunday school first and then like the main service. Did you do the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, we would have to do that sometimes. And that was, you know, I, that was brutal as like a 10 year old. Cause Sunday school was like an hour and church was an hour. And then my mom, my mom would like stand around and chat with all her church friends for like another hour. And so then I'm like getting home at 2 p.m. And it's like, well, you've most of my Sunday is gone now. Like I was not a fan of that. When Dagoon, I love the mustache.
Starting point is 00:12:07 It looks. Thank you. I appreciate that. My wife's a big fan. Just you and her though. Everyone else hates it deeply. Oh, what not your audience doesn't like it. Oh, I've had so many comments.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You look like you're like the guy who had a white van in the seventies. You look like you coach a little league team, a little to get a little too into it. You look like Rhett Butler. Come on. That's sexy. That's old fucking school. That guy, that's the kind of man who owns a plantation and puts his wife in line. That's the mustache of a powerful man. This is old money. It's an old money. It's an old money mustache. And you know what? The bananas from all the South American plantations I own that are like that for sure Bananas, you know what I keep the mustache a lion
Starting point is 00:12:52 Does not disturb himself with the beliefs of sheep. I like that That sounds like a guy who got arrested for like public indecency what he would say. Yeah, I don't know. The lion doesn't concern himself with it. He swears to Jesus. Sir, this is a sluice off for the last time. That's the bumper sticker right next to like the sovereign citizen bumper sticker. Yes. Kyle brought that up, that your most recent video is,
Starting point is 00:13:20 he said it was about sovereign citizens. I was praying, because I haven't seen it yet that it was you doing sovereign citizenship, but it's probably not right. Like me, like you getting pulled over. That would have been a really funny bit. Uh, other than, you know, the jail time that would be associated with that attempt. Yeah. Is there any truth to these sovereign citizens? Absolutely not. They it's it's comedic. It's like the QAnon level of like there's a secret war
Starting point is 00:13:52 happening underneath the pavement of DC and they're shooting at each other and stuff like that. It's like that but for legal systems like judges and stuff like that. Okay. It feels like it should be possible to exist on this earth without like being a part of somebody's rule set. Like you can exist in the water, right? International waters, you can be on a sailboat. I'm not really too welcome anywhere, just doing your own thing. You are the king of your own boat.
Starting point is 00:14:18 But here on land, it doesn't happen that way. Is there any place? I agree with you. It is their reasoning for why they should be allowed to do that that makes me upset. Okay. In a vacuum. Cause like their whole thing is that the reason
Starting point is 00:14:33 they're a sovereign citizen is because the United States government does not exist. And it's actually a corporation that is an extension of the UK. So any law that exists in the United States is just maritime law or Admiralty law because we're just like a military extension of the British Navy.
Starting point is 00:14:53 The reasonings for this, like the reason that American flags have gold fringes on them in courtrooms is because it is an extension of the British Royal Navy or the bar that lawyers are judged against is short for the British Accreditation registry so they have all these like secret conspiracies. No I've never questioned it. I don't think if it's British Accreditation Registry, I will register myself as a sovereign citizen. That would be so funny if in your research
Starting point is 00:15:29 you were like, wait, what? I've been paying taxes for no reason. I've been paying taxes for no reason. I've been paying taxes for no reason. I could just wear an Admiral hat and walk around free. It doesn't stand for anything. It's a metaphoric bar that you have to cross or get over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah, I've done that. That's what they want you to do. Good for them being creative. I've watched a lot of Sovereign Citizen stuff and I've never seen anyone successfully use it as a defense. What I have seen is people use it as a defense and the judge say, well, there was no probable cause for this whole thing to begin.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So you're free to go. And they're like, ha ha, Sovereign Citizen wins go. And they're like, haha, Cyber and Citizen wins again. And it's like, no, no, no. Like you didn't win sir, we lost. Like you moron. And then I've also seen those guys who are like, I am the individual known as Kyle. I am traversing the roadways, but I am traveling.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I am not traversing the roadways. I am a free man. Pete Slauson Yeah. Pete Slauson I am Kyle. You were speaking to the vessel Woody somehow, like that makes sense. Kyle Slauson Yeah. Pete Slauson So, the idea with that is, since the United States is a corporation, the reason we are a corporation is because at some point in history, and it's debated when this point is, most say the Civil War, others will say like 1933 when we left the gold standard, at some point in history, the United States ran out of money. for money, we began to use people as a credit system to other governments like Great Britain. So rather than having money, we just have loans
Starting point is 00:17:11 that we take from other countries every time someone in the United States is born based on the potential income they can make across their life, which as they make that income and pay in taxes, that tax money goes to the UK or whatever government actually owns us. So because of that, whenever you're born, your birth certificate is effectively a bill of sale
Starting point is 00:17:34 that is created establishing you as an entity that is just a piece of leverage for the United States government to use. I know this all makes so much sense. So because of that, on a birth certificate, if you'll notice, your name is written in all capital letters, whereas you, the person, Woody, Kyle, Taylor, your name is not typically spelled with all capital letters. This is how I get you. Because the version of you that is in all capital letters is not actually you. That is the corporate
Starting point is 00:18:03 entity that has been assigned to the leverage of Great Britain. Whereas you with lowercase letters is you the actual person. So therefore, if you can separate yourself from yourself, all capital letters, business entity, then you are entitled. I saw him do it. Is that why my birth certificate after my name says LLC? It's very small text. If you're able to separate yourself from that corporate entity, because you have figured out their game, you are entitled to all of the money that corporate entity is leveraged against the other government so you can sign off on your taxes on checks on any paper
Starting point is 00:18:49 documentation to charge it to your social security number or to name in all caps and that is your trick about the government know that you're on to their scheme this is like a conspiracy theory except there's like a whole judicial system whose job is to prove that it's false. It would be like if there were an anti-Bigfoot society that could send you to jail every time you piped up about a Sasquatch. That's why you would imagine this would die out,
Starting point is 00:19:18 because every time some loon pulls out his little three ring trapper keeper binder out on the highway like a fourth grader and says, no, actually, I don't need car insurance or registration. I'm fucking traveling not driving. And then they knock his goddamn window out, drag him through the drag him through the glass and throw him in jail. And he was like, what happened? And then they take him to court and they have like eight professionals explain it slowly, incarcerate him, find him successfully,
Starting point is 00:19:45 and then he comes back out of that situation. If I were a judge, I'd have fun with that. I'd have fun with that as the judge and be like, throw him in the brig. And he'd be like, no. So you know it's true. But like, I know it's easy to make fun of and it is retarded. But It's easy to make fun of and it is retarded, but can you imagine a higher level of joy and carefree just lightness than in that first month before you're caught and you're just committing check fraud? You think you've got the world by the balls. You have the best month of all time and then you get pulled over for driving 85 in a residential area or something and you get arrested. That would be a fun time. What they'll do is cause sometimes you'll hear stories about them getting away
Starting point is 00:20:33 with it or winning in court cases because their favorite thing, like half of the sovereign citizen thing revolves around paperwork. Like it's about paperwork, about your full name. Never refer to yourself as your name because that's your legal entity. Refer to yourself as the person existing on earth as known as John son of Smith or whatever, rather than just calling yourself John Smith.
Starting point is 00:20:56 You can never say I understand to a judge or to a police officer because that is declaring yourself as under the standing of the legal system. You have to say things like comprehend. Like there's so many little nitpicks like that. They love to focus in on minutia of things and the way that they'll get off of like legal things sometimes is they'll get pulled over for like a speeding ticket or running a red light and they will fill the local court systems with more paperwork than that court system has ever seen.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It happens in like small county departments a lot where someone like runs a red light gets pulled over and then a week later every individual of the county has been subpoenaed by some lawyer that they've hired from Alaska. And now like the court has to individually say no to all of them. And then all the police officers will have like these tax reports filed against them by some unknown entity. So what happens is these small police departments that can't do anything about it, just let the guy go because the alternative is they work for a year and a half and then win $200. The alternative is they work for a year and a half and then win $200
Starting point is 00:22:10 Okay, so it seems like this works if you have time and you stay in small town Well, like what he described could almost be done absent of the sovereign citizen argument, right? Yeah, you know like like you could do that I think they call it the nuclear option sometimes with look with lawyers like like really just flooding them with with requests It's often done you send the the opposition all these little requests. Oh, we need this file, we need that file. But instead of sending a list, you send 10,000 requests and they gotta process them all and you run the other guy in the forehouse
Starting point is 00:22:35 trying to answer them all and pay all that court costs. But like that would work without pretending like you're an admiral or some shit. Okay, well now you're just a criminal. Where's the fun? Where's the flavor? The hat. I'm wearing that.
Starting point is 00:22:47 The F.I. Nelson. Like as a paper terrorism, that is their term for it. So you're just like dosing someone. It's it's like paper. A little dramatic. Yeah. Yeah. It's paper murder. It's like murder, but not.
Starting point is 00:23:03 It's like not at all that. But it's but it's, but it's actually we ruin a word there for drama. That's not really related to this. I don't know. I would love to see a video of somehow the perfect storm occurring. And one of these guys like getting off because of some obscure Naval law that doesn't seem
Starting point is 00:23:20 at all possible. Cause this is all made up. They do. Well, what they'll do is they will take words and excerpts from actual legal stuff. But most of the time it doesn't apply. Like I saw one guy in court quoting the Magna Carta, and it's like, okay, that has nothing. That was that no one even uses that for anything. That was the best one. And the one that gets used a lot is there are like black supremacist movements who tie on to it, the Morish science temples specifically. So they believe every black person or at least themselves in the United States to be descendants from ancient Moroccans. And one of the first documents in United States history is something called the Moroccan friendship treaty, which was in like 1780.
Starting point is 00:24:05 John Adams signed it. It was an agreement of trade routes between the United States and Morocco, effectively saying we have good standing for open ports with each other, which fun fact is the still longest existing treaty in United States history. Our oldest friend, Morocco. Morocco, our oldest friend.
Starting point is 00:24:25 So you hear that and you're like, oh, okay, there's some legitimacy there, but this is a document from the 1780s that say we have good standing with trade routes. So Moorish Science Temple sovereign citizens will take that to mean that any Moroccan citizen, which to them is any black person that they say it is in the United States,
Starting point is 00:24:45 does not have to abide by any United States laws because they are a friend. Oh, is that what's going on this whole time? I feel bad. I've been holding it against y'all. I'm so goddamn sorry. Do these guys have a podcast that you listen to? Because it seems like the funniest. Do these guys have a podcast I listen to? Because it seems like the funniest. Do these guys have like a rivalry with the black Israelites where they're like, we're the Jews and they're like, no, we're Moroccans. That's the best thing. There is. So the sovereign citizen thing actually starts from Christian nationalism,
Starting point is 00:25:18 which was a, or sorry, Christian identity, the Christian identity movement, which was white supremacist group that popped up in the 50s that said white Europeans are the actual Israelites of the Bible God's the whole chosen people or whatever So you have one side that thinks that they are the true Israelites and another side that says that they are the true Israelites So it's like I know we're the good guys Taylor We don't make up any bullshit like that and look look I know Jesus was a Jewish Carpenter and he looked brown and I know he had an afro and I bet he was five six I bet he wasn't was taller than that dude like you thought rifty. I bet he was ugly
Starting point is 00:25:58 I bet Jesus was fucking ugly did what I want Jesus to look like is Wendigoom I want you to look like is Wendigoom. I want Jesus to look just like Wendigoom, the beard though. I want him to be a handsome white guy with blue eyes. We had some of them blue-eyed Jesuses on the wall at my church. I went to a church of God. We were talking about it before you got here. We did tongues. We had the choir going. I was in the handbells. I did everything in the church there for a few years. Was it because, did you try a more important instrument and were you relegated to handbells?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Oh no, no, no, you don't misunderstand. It was a handbell choir. It was like 25 kids all with, and like. Oh. It's just children singing wasn't brutal enough. Children singing with handbell choir. Like this is auditory terrorism. Church of God, Taylor. Handbells is step A. That's their top of the line.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I'm not familiar with Church of God and their specific beliefs. What spin-off are they? Wendigoode would know better than me because I went through it, but I had nothing to compare it to. because I went through it, but I had nothing to compare it to. So I don't know. So from my understanding, I know Church of Christ better, and I used to think they have similarities, but I actually don't now. They came off of the holiness movement in the 50s, if I remember right. They're not as far down the path of spiritualism as, say, Pentecostal or holiness denomination churches. But they're kind of this weird midline of like not quite faith healer, but also not quite like Presbyterian Methodists, like, you know, like formality to the worship either.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I think it's like a weird split because there's not many of them. I think it was like a weird splinter that came off during the 50s when like all the different denominations started to spread out across the Southeast. I felt like it was the blue collar church, whereas the big Baptist church was the white collar church. Like there was a really fancy Baptist church, but that tiny town, Woody's been there in Lavonia, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Woody, I think there's five churches in that town. I think there's like at least five churches. There is five more than that town. I would need to like check out mentally for a minute and like do a mental drive through my up through my old hometown to Like pick them all out But I think there's like five churches with a population of 19,000 something like that. Like it's nothing was the church Was the Church of God the closest church to your house? No, no, we drove past God look again very small town though. We're talking about a seven-minute drive versus a five-minute drive.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Did your parents ever tell you, like, we go to this one because of XYZ? We don't go to the Baptist Church next door. We drive 35 minutes to this one. Well, my dad was like, he didn't get along, well, oftentimes with, it seemed like the husbands of my mom's friends or like those little like clicks and stuff Like he would be real protective of my mom. Maybe a little too jelly sometimes I think And I think that he could like mess things like that up I know that I never got to be a boy scout I was only a cub scout because some of those cub scout dads were looking at my mom too much My dad was about to be a bear scout and whooped somebody's ass.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Okay, so you were more a Church of God guy because you'd been kicked out of the loop. No, not kicked out. We hadn't tried out the Baptist Church. I don't mean that. I just mean that one seemed to be the more white collar church. We went there occasionally, but it was usually that we were a guest of someone. The one that we went to was my grandmother's church because we were going to like be with her for services because they went every every Sunday so we went every Sunday my dad did not go he could be drugged there Maybe once a year, but you could tell there was a fight beforehand and after He did not want to go there, and I don't want to go either Fight even if you know you lose to Does it make it less apt to ask for it next time?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah. My dad had a really bad experience. I think with religion, his, um, his brother died of cancer. Um, like, like a very close brother died of cancer and they went to a faith healer somewhere, um, not a faith healer that's, I guess it kind of is. They went to one of those churches where they do miracles. Cause it was like, that'll do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 This guy was dying, you know, and it was like he wanted to go So dad like flies him up to some I don't remember where but he said the preachers like who believes in the Lord And then everybody like raised her hand I believe Lord who's got a hundred dollars for the Lord and it's like dad's like you got to pull out a hundred dollars cuz like You don't be the guy without a hundred dollars cuz gotta pull out a hundred dollars cause like you don't wanna be the guy without a hundred dollars cause everybody pulled out a hundred dollars. You know what I mean? And like it was just this whole bullshit healing scam
Starting point is 00:30:31 like that I'm sure probably like gave them a little bit of hope when there was a man. So I never really talked to him about that, but my guess is that's why he didn't want to come to Sunday school at the church. I would say they come on too hard when they steal your cat. I have a similar experience in that when Hope was a little little kid, we got her into this Catholic preschooler,
Starting point is 00:30:52 maybe as a Catholic kindergarten. And we wanted her to go to that school one through eight. Well, the way this school worked is kindergarten was like try out to see just how much gosh darn time, talent and treasure they could extract from you to see if you are the kind of person they want in first through eighth grade or whatever it is. And sure enough, we're there fucking basket weaving and habitat for humanity and giving them cash every week. They're like, it doesn't matter how much money we give you, how much money you give only that that you give regularly. And, and, oh, by the way, you don't
Starting point is 00:31:28 just put money in the tray that they pass around. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to ask for your routing number and your account thing so we can make withdrawals directly from your bank. And I'm like, the fucking kind of- My wife doesn't have that information. have that information. And dude, it was just such a, I'm upset to revisit this topic. Like the, the thievery that those Catholics had was, was criminal in my mind and the brainwashing that I'm sitting around here, the guy, the preacher had no value,
Starting point is 00:32:00 no value. He was a thousand years old. I couldn't understand his words. It was just a test of endurance that all those days of detention in high school had prepared me for to sit through this lecture. And I don't know, basically, she was like first on the waiting list, which I took to be like, Oh, they go to fucking whale on the hook here. You know, you're one person away. Got any more of that time, talent and
Starting point is 00:32:23 treasure? And I'm like, suck my fucking dick, we're out. We don't want anything to do with your school. And they're like, okay, we have a spot. And I was like, you didn't hear me. Finger in the ass, it's how I like it. Some of this is paraphrased a little bit. You know, they're like- That's the boldest approach I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I know tons of people who go to church and like I've never heard one person tell me like, yeah, it's just part of tithing. You give your account and like, I've never heard one person tell me like, yeah, it's just part of tithing. You give your account and routing, uh, account number and routing number. Like that's, that's insane. Every church I've ever been to is like, they pass that little thing around. People see me ferociously anti-church. You need to know I wasn't start that. I didn't start that way. I didn't, my family isn't that way. The church made me that way. This is what, this is their, what is it?
Starting point is 00:33:07 They reap what they sow. This is what they sowed in me. Those fucking criminals were like just for nothing. They gave no value. They extracted so much. You know how much goddamn money I raised for them and gave like, and there's never enough. They're evil people who will go to hell if there is a
Starting point is 00:33:26 hell. That is the fucking Catholic. Right. Right. It's the world's largest child raping organization. That's what they actually do. That's the value that they provide. They put penises in children's mouths, little boys. And I'm, I'm not for it. I'm not for it. Now, Dr. Disrespect might be your favorite streamer. Maybe he's your guy, but I'm against that kind of thing. I don't like aspiring pedophiles. I think you're painting with a pretty broad brush. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm not down with the child sex and I'm not down with the Catholic Church, which are one and the same. I saw an article today, I think. The Catholic Church is poor mouthing or po mouthing as they say.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Po mouthing. Po mouthing. What do you may not know? That's when someone pretends like they're low on cash. They come around po mouthing. But you know that they've got it in their back pocket and they're just they're being so the Catholic Church is crying. The donations are down. Membership is down.
Starting point is 00:34:21 They're low on cash. I looked it up. One hundred and seventy million acre real estate empire. They have a they have an investment portfolio of over 15 billion and this is two years old. Like like good gosh, crazy. They own their own country. Did we forget that? They do. Nice little cutout and everything's like marble and super nice. Oh, I've been there. All right. Look like the income wise, all highest GDP in the world. I would love to go. All right. Look, look, the income wise, all the world, I would love to go.
Starting point is 00:34:46 All right. So like three or four. So I'd love to go into the bowels of the Pentagon to the old parts of the Pentagon and see what's in there. I bet there's some crazy shit. I would love to go to Fort Knox and get the real tour and see if there's any gold left. You know what I mean? See if we didn't just give that all to China 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Maybe that place is fucking empty. And I'd love to go to the Vatican. I'd love to go deep into the bowels of the Vatican with some old wizened priest and his boy and like the boys holding the lamp and limping from whatever. And we go deep. I want to find like is the Ark of the Covenant is there? Is the spear of destiny in there? Like is the real shroud of Turvenant in there? Is there? Is the the spear of destiny in there? Like is the real shroud of Turin in there? Like what's in there? Is there something in there that would make me believe because I'd love to believe I always say that like I don't like the church But I'd love it if there were a God that would be swell Wouldn't you love it if there were a God Taylor and you knew that like
Starting point is 00:35:41 Like you and your family would eventually be together forever in paradise with like God? I would love that so much. Yes. Yeah, I think there's a desire in everyone pretty much to work. I also would like to be Master Chief from Halo though. Well, I don't think that's going to happen. There you go. You're in your mid 40s. Hey, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:08 These are the Spartan program. A mid 30s man could definitely hack it in the core. Okay. I'm not saying I could be master chief level, but I can handle my own. All right. You could turn this around in the next three years. I think you've got a chance. I think you're close. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:28 What is the oldest you could be to join the military? Is it 37? It's definitely 30s. And ours, if you're combat focused. To join though, like if you go to recruitment place, like there's gotta be a cutoff. I would guess 30, 30, 34? I mean, but if you want to be like a jag, like a like an attorney who works in the military, like, there's no way
Starting point is 00:36:51 some dude who's like 43 is applying for that job. And they're like, well, you can't money is said 43 because the Air Force and Space Force, it's 42. So you're right. Armies 35. Yeah. The Coast Guard's 41 Marine Corps 28 Navy also 41 It's higher than I know we go Problem is is I was gonna be a marine. Yeah You said 28 by four months Darn it
Starting point is 00:37:23 Okay, we need dangerous people. They'll take you. You would think. You would think they'd say oh I bet you're crafty. Dude if they made a suicide squad and you tried to join there'd be like the most monstrous murderers imaginable and then you'd have to like come up with some sort of stolen valor. You couldn't tell them that you got mailed of mild drug. Mars, how'd you end up in this hell hole? I killed Fiti man.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I almost wanted to make up a fake thing in real jail, but then I was afraid they'd check my paperwork and find out that I'd lied and the lie alone would be They'd be like, oh if he lied about that, maybe the paperwork is a lie too. And so I was just like yeah I'm a they just well your child molester. Yeah. Well, no, they assume I'm like a like a Stooley a stool pigeon. I'm in there to watch and take notes and shit Cuz cuz the other guy that's in there with me also he's like Ninja, I got caught with so much weed you don't even know how many pounds was it he gets his paperwork and it was like not a ton but like half a ton is like he
Starting point is 00:38:34 got caught oh like 1000 you know a metaphoric ton like it wasn't a lot by my people in federal prison for marijuana are in there with a ton. They're not in there. I mean, like an tile. No one else had an offense anywhere near as weak as mine, except for maybe the gay guy that was he had an he was had an ounce of cocaine, which if you know, that is a ton of cocaine. So I know you were saying he was just in there for being gay. That makes more sense. Yeah. No. It is Georgia.
Starting point is 00:39:09 It is Georgia. Alabama prison. Oh, clearly lock him up. Yeah. Your dog's barking. Being sinister. Yeah. Well, I had a thing I wanted to say
Starting point is 00:39:21 and I lost my train of thought. Was it about sovereign citizens? Was it about church? train of thought. Was it about sovereign citizens? Was it about church? A literal was it about weed? Kyle being in the suicide squad, but he doesn't even get to be the cool shark man. He's like the bitch that they make fun of. And I'd be the bitch too. I'd be the bitch too in the suicide squad.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I'll be around. Look, the real suicide squad is kind of lame if you think about it. You know, like, like I feel like it hack it with some of those guys if they give me a gun that one guy Polka dot man like he's only good like every six hours when he charges. That's a crazy power rocket launcher You're describing Harley Quinn at that point that's what she does Oh, I beat the shit out of Harley Quinn. The idea of her like doing that, that whole scene where she beat up all those guards and she's got the, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:08 she's got the spear or whatever. No way. I beat the shit out of Margot Robbie. Harley Quinn doesn't even have powers. All you need is like a bunch of weapons and then like a goofy outfit. So like pick your, like, like if I carried around like a belt fed machine gun and I was dressed like fryer tuck, like that's effective what Harley Quinn is. Kyle you're muted somehow something came unplugged. Who are the main characters
Starting point is 00:40:31 in Suicide Squad are just regular Joes with guns. I don't mean regular Joes they're like super trained assassins or whatever who trained from birth but yeah. So you could do that then because you're a way better shot than 99.9 percent of people. Yeah, but they shoot bullets out of the air and stuff. And you know, that's magical. So I can't, I definitely can't do that. You know what I would be good at? Like no joke, like not even my own horn. If I was in Ukraine, I'd be the dude to give the shotgun
Starting point is 00:40:55 to shoot the drones down. I'd be like, don't give me a machine gun. Give me a fuck at 12 gauge. Like I'll be on drone duty. Just like, cause I can shoot those drones out of the air. No sweat. Like I've done it before. I can shoot those drones out of the air and no sweat. Like I've done it before. Like I've shot drones out of the air before. It would be my, that's what I would be good at a hundred
Starting point is 00:41:11 percent. I almost wish like I kind of want to do each shooting. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, skeet shooting so much harder, you know, they're coming into like much faster, much weirder speed. Yeah. They predicted a flight path for the clays. Yeah, I suppose, but the drone's kind of coming right at me and it's screaming and it's big. Those drones are big. They're like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:32 they're bigger than a sporting play. I think the New Jersey drone story will fade away and we'll never get an answer and it'll turn out to be mostly nothing. So I'm on Reddit and people post pictures of their drone sightings, a hundred percent of the time, people identify what it actually was, get the tail number, tell you when it flew, it was not even a drone. Every damn flying thing, helicopter, airplane, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:41:59 gets not just, that's not a drone, I don't believe you, like literally disproven to show what it was instead So here's what happened. Here's here's Kyle's version of this drone situation The US military said they lost them over the ocean The Coast Guard says they were chasing 13 of them out in the Atlantic Ocean and lost them So I think early on something was happening. Someone was testing their drone fleet Maybe it maybe Amazon someone maybe Amazon, maybe it was an adversary, maybe it was the US military. Maybe it's a little bit of a false flag to
Starting point is 00:42:32 get some new legislation to make it harder to get and fly a drone. But I think what definitely happened is that only lasted a day or two and that's not happening anymore. That's bullshit. That's a super old photo. Zach falls for everything and he's our fact checker. He's like, it's been leaked. They're looking for a nuclear payload from Ukraine. That's in the chat. It's, it's, it's not, that's the other thing. So let me quickly like throw water on that a and B explain what that is. There was talk of a quote unquote broken arrow scenario,
Starting point is 00:43:02 terrible movie with John Travolta, by the way, if you want to catch it, don't. I agree, it's a great, wonderful movie. I won't say it. Shit tier. And so broken arrow means, broken arrow is the code for we lost a nuclear weapon. And so if that were to happen, if that were to happen, they would send these drones around
Starting point is 00:43:20 that can sniff for the nuclear. That should be operation. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! But that ain't for the new. That should be operation. But I going on operation guys. We lost nuclear warhead operation guys. I'm going to level with you. We looked it up.
Starting point is 00:43:35 We've lost either six or seven nuclear weapons, and we still don't know where they are. We do that well. One time we just dropped one on South Carolina accidentally like just dropped it on South Carolina. It's we never found it. We dropped just dropped one on South Carolina accidentally. Like, just dropped it on South Carolina. We never found it. We dropped a nuclear weapon on South Carolina and didn't find it, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:43:51 That's bad news. You like to think these things are pretty sewn up. If I found a nuclear warhead in my backyard, I would never tell anyone. I'd keep it. I'd hope I get powers, but really I'm telling you. My house would be like Megaton and fall out. We'd be charged up with that thing. But anyway, so here's so here's the Kyle's version I shed your hair something was going on initially because there's some weird videos that I've seen that don't look like anything and there's the
Starting point is 00:44:15 Military saying these things over the Atlantic etc. I think something happened. Whatever that was it's not happening anymore But what is happening is that everybody's who's got a drone in the country is saying? Let's send it up and fuck with people. Let's let's mess with somebody. I almost bought a drone just to do that I literally like they got me interested in drones again. I was like how much early I bet they're cheaper now I bet for a grand I could really fuck with some people I put some like spark, you know, those streamers Like kids have yeah some of those and like a like a blinky light I'm just scary like Halloween mask on on the front of it No, you fly it up high and make it wiggly and then film it with an iPhone
Starting point is 00:44:52 So it's all blurry and shit. Oh my god. Did you see that thing? Oh, you mean you were gonna you're gonna stage your own videos Throw them up on X. I thought you meant like like low and fast fly bys No, then you'd see it's just a fucking drone. But I don't think it's aliens. I don't think it's any of that bullshit. But I do think that first day something was going on. The US military you can see are flying. I can't remember the name of the airplane that the military has that its job is to find maritime threats, but they're going up and down the East Coast with that thing. And they've got like the military beefed up its presence.
Starting point is 00:45:31 So clearly, the higher ups in the military don't think it's nonsense. They think there's something going on that needs to be looked into. But I think that 99% of it is people like me who are like, I got a drone. Let's send it up and mess with everybody. Let's be part of this. Cause they're like, we're seeing them over Ohio now. And this dumb ass on MSNBC is like, there are some drones that yes,
Starting point is 00:45:52 could fly from the Atlantic to Ohio. It's a long way, I understand, but with refueling, I'm like, what are you talking about? What are you, you're making that up. Who is refueling drones over like Kentucky to get to, where again? Ohio? Everybody's being silly about it.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I'm not one of those guys who's really good at identifying all the planes. I can tell you if they're pointy military or roundy civilian, but that's really where my expertise ends. But I do know those people. I'm in a community of people, the paramotor pilots, who just are plane geeks who know them.
Starting point is 00:46:26 And they're always debunking shit like this. They can see the lights in the dark and be like, that is a fucking Thunderbolt 124, whatever. Yeah, so the stuff that I see is regular planes and helicopters getting misidentified as something nefarious. Is there also something nefarious? Maybe, maybe like how said in the start, there were some, it seems like the kind of thing Isaiah would know a lot about. Well, I'm a, I'm a conversation away from
Starting point is 00:46:52 like just painting Chinese letters on the side of an RC plane and flying it by people's barbecues really quick. Do it. I think that would do it in your banana shirt with your f*****g mustache, like in eyesight. you just see all these accounts that are like pray every day MAGA 2028 or whatever that are like it's real it's all real like you know it's aliens or it's North Korea or actually I don't think anybody thinks I don't even think China is kind of conspiracy theorists thinks that North Korea could talk about it. No you said the government knows what it is the military knows exactly what it is and For some reason they're not telling you that's that was I'm paraphrasing, but that's pretty accurate I would believe they know what I said. He's not releasing the JFK files anytime soon. So
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah, he saw him and he and Rogan was like why didn't he said you really class if I mean he didn't he's like If I if you saw what I saw he wouldn't want to classify. Yes, like why didn't he said you really class if I mean he didn't he's like if I if you saw What I saw he wouldn't want to classify. Yes, like shut up. I hate you Joe Rogan has talked about Epstein 6,000 times and then he has Epstein's old friend on his podcast and never brought it up once. Like that was kind of lame. Fair, fair.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I mean, you know, I agree. I would have liked to have seen, even if, in his shoes, I'd have been like, Mr. Trump, I can't wait to have you on. We gotta talk about Jeffrey Epstein a little bit though, right? Like even if it's just from the angle of what was that guy like?
Starting point is 00:48:29 And then I let you start talking, we gotta talk about this. That's how I would have felt about it. Even if he talked about him, he would have been better than me. And Epstein again, like hundreds of times, I don't know. It just is like a known fact. And then you have Trump up there
Starting point is 00:48:45 who was literally Epstein's friend. Like even Trump supporters recognize those two were good friends at one point. And everyone knows we heard him say out loud, like Epstein likes women as much as me. He on the younger side, that guy loves his social life. What did you know? When did you know it?
Starting point is 00:49:00 Talk about it. He said that when, that was like back in the night. It was a while ago. That was like nine days or something. Before Ep you know radioactive. Yeah, I would have loved that I would have loved to hear more Rogan had this ex-navy guy on a pilot. I think could have been Air Force doesn't matter He's bald white guy. That guy was the driest interview. I've ever seen in my life. I hated it so much He would Joe would be like he was asking about the drones and Joe was like, who better than a fucking Air Force pilot?
Starting point is 00:49:26 This guy has some, I think he's also into that. The idea of extraterrestrials perhaps. So it's like, man, this is the expert. He would spend 15 minutes saying, I don't know. You know what I mean? You ever catch one of those? It's like 15 minutes of, I don't know. It's like, bro, just admit you don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I yell at my screen. Yeah, move over to the next question. If you don't know. I hate YouTubers who tell me what they're gonna tell me. It's a pet peeve of know. I yell at my screen. Yeah. Move over to the next question. If you don't know. I hate YouTubers who tell me what they're going to tell me. It's a pet peeve of mine. I go bonkers. I'm like, I'm 50 seconds into this video and you're still telling me what you're going to tell me?
Starting point is 00:49:53 Cut it. Put all this on the editing room floor and just tell me. Yeah. And then you check and the video's 10 minutes and four seconds long and it's like, okay, you son of a bitch. That's why you're like this note is brought to you by Squarespace. I look on our own show like I really hope that we start like what I consider content within 15 seconds like hey this is us this. This is our guest. This is the sponsor and it shouldn't be more than 15 seconds
Starting point is 00:50:26 I agree so much I watch a lot of content like I watch a lot of video game tutorials and and I'll dip my and as I move on to I'm playing like three or four different games right now And so I'm tip I'm going to these varied various communities that I'm not familiar with and I'm like, okay Like who's the talent here? Who's the best stalker to guy? Who's the best? Helldivers to guy who it's etc. And some of these people I'm like, man, are you going to get to it or not? Like, what are you doing to me right now? Fucking spit it out. Like some of it. It'll be a minute into the video and we haven't even we've got nowhere. We've got nowhere. I hate you now. Don't recommend channeling you now.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Like those videos where they spend five full minutes doing what you said, telling you what they're going to tell you. But even worse than that to me is when they spend like the first three, it'll be like, oh, I need to find an AOE to build order. Or like some something that's I want to watch some survival video and the whole first three minutes are like a dissertation on why they haven't been uploading regularly recently and it's like brother I'm trying to consume the content of this video it said mongol 18 pop build order and now you're waterboarding me with explanations of why you haven't been regularly
Starting point is 00:51:45 uploading like no I'm not coming to you anymore. A little tip for anybody out there who makes content, if you ever take a little break when you come back don't mention it don't fucking mention it best case scenario the comments are full of where were you oh in a free interaction oh lucky you get to the cut to the chase. Because a lot of your audience doesn't fucking care where you fit. Or they didn't notice you were even gone. Like you're not that important.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Nobody is. It's your YouTube content creator. Get to the content. Give me the thing. I have another tip, one that I could listen to myself. If your audience fuses at you, don't sit there and go back and forth with the people that are fussing.
Starting point is 00:52:28 It cultivates that kind of audience. It elevates the complaints about you, to like platforms them and lets everybody know what your weakness is. And as a guy who's not fussing at you, I don't wanna have to endure how you don't like being, I get it. I get it. Humans just aren't wired.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Most of us anyway, to have like a hundred thousand people tell us what I think of you, right? It'll start to get under your skin. It's needed. People aren't wired for that, but shut the fuck up about it. Just pretend you don't hear it. That's what every single member in the audience is looking for. Do that.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Oh, you know what? I do that. And you'll cultivate a friendly, wonderful, just funny guy fan base. Like we have online. Speaking of like, uh, remember syndicate, uh, the winner of the great one V one. Um, the, uh, the zombies champion. I was told yesterday that you answered that so quick. So syndicate, I saw he talked about us. Right? No, I have no knowledge of that. Someone linked me a clip. What'd he say?
Starting point is 00:53:35 I didn't watch it, but I saw it in passing on my phone while I was working out and I'm like, I'm going to come back to this. And then I didn't, but it was, uh, the comment that came alongside it said that he was basically like paying like PKA got brought up and both he and the other hosts were like, Oh, those guys are like total OG, like gaming podcast guys. And it's like, okay. That's all right. Well, I won't say that's a say now. No, no, I, I made all that up. So you're going to say, stay. I have to hear. I simply must. Well, guy had a great night with him one time in Los Angeles. It was real fun, dude. Love send it to Tom, as I call him, because we're friends like that. I have a different topic. I think you might like that Have you followed the Tim Kennedy drama at all? the professional fighter
Starting point is 00:54:27 Yes, Tim Kennedy's a professional fighter also well known as being I think he's literally a green beret like he's See I'm still I think I think we all I could be wrong with that, but I Could be wrong too. I'm not a hundred percent sure But anyway, he's gotten a lot of attention lately for stealing valor. And there's like a ton of evidence about it. So I'm gonna put my opinion out there, which is he is the realest deal that there is, right?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Like he really is a green brain Navy seal, like whatever it is that he is. Like he really is a special forceset Navy Seal, like whatever it is that he is, like he really is a special forces guy. He is actually doing it. He has kicked doors down to the worst of the worst guy. Like that is all true. However, he took the truth, which was already an A plus and turned it into something
Starting point is 00:55:20 that is just fiction. People are like, really? You threw 25 grenades through the same window? Who does that? Who's just there and launches 25 grenades at a bad guy? He's taken stories that were actually the stories that other people did and made them his own, where he was in the room when this amazing thing happened,
Starting point is 00:55:40 but now he's retelling the story as if it was him who did the amazing thing, which is a bummer, because I think it would have been a good story anyway. And he's wrong in that when someone's like, Dad, were you a hero in the war? And he's like, No, but I served in a company of heroes. That doesn't make you look like the non-hero, you know, it just makes you look like a modest guy impressed by his coworkers. He could have taken that route, but instead, he's like, I was the center of this story. It was me who did the things. He said he had a purple heart, never got a purple heart. And then people are like, dude, what is this? We have your DD 214, maybe? I'm not a military guy.
Starting point is 00:56:17 His discharge papers, and they would mention the purple heart, and they don't. And he's like, he starts giving me a homework assignment. He wants me to go through all the photos and videos he's ever had and find bruises on his back. The heck? Like what? You are the most photographed fucking Instagram fitness model that I know.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Don't you have pictures of your injuries? You photographed everything every day. You were constantly in front of this camera, playing up what you did and you don't have any photos of your Purple Heart injuries. None. Maybe because it's as bullshit as half the other. He wrote a book detailing what a hero is and now all the people who dig into stolen valor stuff are just disproving it piece by piece. Yeah. See, that's interesting because something that's happened recently is Special forces guys have been doing a lot of podcasting and it's been doing really well I it's it's a like a new sector in YouTube and there's a and
Starting point is 00:57:15 Because some of the most hardcore motherfuckers are turned out to be kind of charismatic and it's like, oh So you're the real deal like John McPhee, dude And it's like, oh, so you're the real deal. Like John McPhee, dude, like look up John McPhee, M-C-P-H-E-E. That guy was the sheriff of Baghdad. That guy was, he was on Rogan. He's done a bunch of stuff. His story-
Starting point is 00:57:37 American singer songwriter, John McPhee? Nope, no. Look for, you're looking for- Incredibly well accomplished. He was a Renaissance man. I see him now. A strong bird of Afghanistan. He's right about his name.
Starting point is 00:57:51 John sometimes called Shrek Miffy. Yeah, his nickname was Shrek in the military. He said it was because he picked something heavy up once with exhibiting retard strength. And they were like, you're like Shrek. You're like an ogre. And he's like like it just fucking sticks But he tells these stories about killing people. He uh, he he made he made fun of the um I don't think you ever saw that movie about the Navy SEAL who gets left behind the Taliban are chasing him
Starting point is 00:58:15 It's called um, maybe Marky Mark was in it. It's solid. Yeah. Yeah lone survivor lone survivor He's making he's like I watched that lone survivor movie. I like Lone Survivor. He's like, I watched that Lone Survivor movie. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Seven Taliban? Seven Taliban? Me and three other guys would kill hundreds a day. That's what you gotta understand. I'm not talking about dozens a day, hundreds, plural. One day I killed-
Starting point is 00:58:37 Me, my friend Kevin, and an ace-kick 130 would kill thousands of these guys by the day. No, that's what they do. They were calling in fire missions, and him and two or three other guys John. 130 would kill thousands of these guys by the day. No, that's what they do. They were calling in fire missions and like him and two or three other guys were killing hundreds of people a day in the Battle of Toro Bora. Close as friends.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Yeah. Me and my buddy AC 130, you know, we fucked them up. Me, Kevin and the grim reaper of death. And actually based on maritime law I get credit for the kills of the AC one someone's got to call him in am I right call it in I'd ever looked into the specifics but I remember the lone survivor movie or like that story got a ton of criticism about like the way it was told it was something about like the way it was told.
Starting point is 00:59:25 It was something about like, the story makes it seem like they were picked off one by one, where in reality, it may have been more of like, they got ambushed, and a bunch of them die, which if that's the case, I could be completely wrong. And if I'm wrong, I don't want to be corrected. But if that's the case, like if I went out with my boys, and they all got like mowed down at once, like before they even had a chance to fight back, I may come back and be like, oh, you should have
Starting point is 00:59:50 been there. You should have seen them. The valor they showed, you know, rather than like, yeah, they got decimated. But Tim Kennedy was to me the first one because he was obviously with UFC and everything. He was already kind of a celebrity from that. And they were like, oh, you don't even know, that's the real guy. It almost reminded me of like Mirko Krokop. I was like, yeah, that guy's a bad ass in the ring, but you know, he'd kill you
Starting point is 01:00:14 if you were out in the street too, right? Like, he probably knows some knife technique. He could probably break your neck. He's special forces operator, like he's a bad motherfucker. Or some sort of like SWAT they had in his country, maybe croatia i think that's where miroko's from um like he was a killer you could see it and and and tim kennedy was kind of had that same energy but to find out that maybe he exaggerated about some stuff it's like there's some stuff that it's like kind of the military stuff they they've got a name for telling a lie about that in
Starting point is 01:00:45 particular you know I mean it's all about you've made that and it's just like I don't know that's extra scummy there's something awful about that because we're not just you didn't just lie about a baseball game or or like you know you like a fishing story like Dave didn't make it back, bro. Like why didn't you give him this? Stolen valor is free speech. And you shouldn't have to no longer walk around as Green Beret Taylor because this guy is fibbing. That's true. I served honorably.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I did find all four of his like claims that are under fire. You were like a hundred percent correct. It is called the DD two 14 Woody. So you nailed that shrapnel stories under fire as he described pulling shrapnel from his body during combat, but peers denied the injuries occurred. The purple heart thing, no record of it. Like he said, the grenade tails, apparently he claimed to carry 50 grenades and used them frequently. And this was by like 75 pounds worth of grenades. Those things aren't light too many grenades. It's too many grenades to lie. It's like, it would be like being
Starting point is 01:01:56 asked like in, in ninth grade, like, so how many girlfriends do you have? Like 2000. No, we wouldn't have even believed one Ted, but you know, don't shoot that high. But yeah, 50 aids and then exaggerated achievements. He says that he got honors from ranger school and there's no record of his honors. And also there's some pushback on a lot of his, uh, how much he German dramatized dramatized combat scenarios. They weigh 14 ounces each, by the way. Those M67 grenades that he would have been toting. 50 of them. That's insane. Yeah, he's not carrying that
Starting point is 01:02:32 because he's got body armor and ammo on top of it. Can you imagine the visage of someone jogging with 50 grenades attached to them? Hey, can you stop? Hey, everyone in the fucking Taliban knows where we are because you're fucking jingling and jangling all over the desert. Yeah, they're tied in like strings behind him like dragging across the dirt. It's hilarious if other people hung grenades on his vests like Christmas tree ornaments
Starting point is 01:02:59 as he's running out and they're just hung up by the little ring. Yeah, there's one dude and Tim Kennedy's platoon. He's like, I fucking hate grenade guy. He's walking out and they're just... Yeah, they fall. He hung him by the little ring. Yeah, there's one dude in Tim Kennedy's platoon who's like, I fucking hate this guy. I feel like he didn't suggest he carried that many. You could absolutely... He apparently claimed to in his book, Scars and Stripes. Maybe 50 in the truck. And did he say... And also, things can get twisted if you don't know
Starting point is 01:03:27 Sure, like maybe he meant 40 millimeter grenades Maybe he's in a mark 19 and he sent 50 through a window and he used to do that all the time Which would be very believable mark 19 is a great launcher that's mounted on a truck It goes bump bump bump bump bump bump bump shooting grenades. You can easily do the same window No building no When I watch how we nine won't get it done like He has 50 I've watched a bunch of that GoPro footage from Iraq and in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It's like depending on who's fighting and how they're fighting what they're doing. Like they dump ammo. It seems like there's a lot of spray and pray in real military fighting. There's so much less. There he is. Shoot him and so much more. They're over there. Shoot.
Starting point is 01:04:20 There's so much spray and pray and maybe not spray and pray as much as I just call it. Suppressive fire. Right. That's they're just trying to make sure that they don't feel comfortable shooting back. Yeah. That McPhee guy would talk about someone running a checkpoint in the Iraqi streets and some 18 year old Ranger letting loose with a 50 cow. But he's like, there's Tracer rounds skipping down the fucking street 500 yards
Starting point is 01:04:45 Skipping through cars people are jumping out of the way We look he's wasted an old man and an old woman who are too fucking stupid to stop for the Rangers I'm having to make him give him morphine. I'm like shut him the fuck up He's like, I can't give morphine to the enemy sirs Like does that look like the fucking enemy but his stories are hardcore Like it's it's it's just death and mayhem and he says it all with a smile but he's a psychopath but he's clearly like a psycho he'd be like I think I'm a normal guy and just like you are not a normal guy you're not a normal guy you are not
Starting point is 01:05:17 a normal guy you just like laughed in the middle of your story about some kid blowing the brains out of some elderly Afghan couple. I can't, I can't remember the name, but, um, uh, who's that comedian right now? Real famous Gillis, uh, Shane Gillis, Shane Gillis talked about this guy on a podcast. He's like some old world war two vet who carried a flame thrower, uh, and like Iwo Jima and every time he talks about it, he's like, yes, sir. I remember the smell of barbecue on them as their ungrateful souls went to eternity. And he's like smiling through the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And it's like, this guy's not okay. Everyone else is like just dead-eyed, so traumatized by it. This guy's like whistling on his way to work. Yeah, I remember like, there was one interview he is in where the interviewer was like, does this weigh heavy on you? And he was like, no, sir. I miss it. I loved every minute of it. Like sometimes I flashback when I go near Sarku Japan at the mall, just reminds me of the flavor. There's a unique sense to the Japanese when they burn tempura
Starting point is 01:06:20 almost. They would smell different. Yes. Yes. That's what guys in Vietnam talk about. They'll be on night ops and it's like they could smell, before they saw people, they would smell like the, like there's this rice they would eat that stank really bad. Like they could smell like it coming through the woods before they saw or heard them. Have you ever seen the interview of the tunnel rat? No, which one so it's the the one he's sitting at his like dinner table It looks like it's filmed in the 80s or early 90s
Starting point is 01:06:53 It's VHS quality and there's a female interviewer asking him about being a tunnel rat nom Tunnel rats for those don't know they find a tunnel. They're like, oh shit VC tunnel He crawls into it headfirst with a handgun and a flashlight and works it out. He's like, VC smell different. They eat that curry and them spices and that BO, it smells spicy. I can smell a gook. I can smell a gook. I'll be in the tunnel and I'll be able to tell if it's an old tunnel or a fresh tunnel. And I come up on him with a pistol, put him down, move his body on, crawl on past. He talks about having a necklace of ears and a special chopping machete he altered for taking heads off and how they took his chopper and his ears away at customs
Starting point is 01:07:38 and he's upset about it to this day. And she's like, if you could go back, would you? Oh, I'd still be there killing if they let me. Is that, is he fibbing because when he says, Oh, I could tell it was a Vietnamese guy. You're in Vietnam. But there shouldn't be any. He's calling in a tunnel. Their skin's a little darker and their eyes are pointed on the side. I like to imagine the Vietnamese are in their tunnel and it's like, Oh, I don't understand how they find us. I'm just, I'm just, Oh, every day we eat sour fish paste soup. Every day I eat ice too. When they find me. There was a guy who used to work at the gun shop in my tent and he has, he was like decorated in Vietnam.
Starting point is 01:08:19 He was a riverboat gunner. And he would tell me some crazy stories. But one of the wildest, he told me that I still think about all the time is he's in Vietnam. He was sitting outside of a village that they had set up like a security position on and he was on the M 60 and he was sitting there like laying down next to his gun and he was picking dirt. He like found a nail on the ground and was using it to like pick dirt next to his gun and he was picking dirt. He like found a nail on the ground and was using it to like pick dirt from under his fingernails.
Starting point is 01:08:48 And then he hears footsteps and he looks up and like five yards in front of him is a villager who ran out with a rifle. And he said the villager stopped and looked at him and said, are you going to kill me? And without saying anything, he grabbed the gun, like jumped on it and fired and killed him. And telling me that story, he said,
Starting point is 01:09:07 I had completely forgotten about that entire instance until 30, 40 years later, I was back in Tennessee helping my son build his house. And I had some dirt under my fingernails and I picked up a nail and as soon as I touched my skin, I remembered all of that. And he said, the thing that bothers me most is to this day, I don't know if he said that in English.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yep. Like he doesn't, he can't remember if like he, he, the guy actually said, are you going to kill me? Or he said something to Vietnamese and he understood it or interpreted it to be that or remembered wrong. Oh, it was probably English. He said, Hey, are you Dave? Da da da da.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Hi, I'm Alan. I'm new. He's like, Oh thank God I'm the American spy. He shot me down six years ago. I'm too soft. That would, there's no way I'd be able to forget something like that. Like it would. Oh yeah. But too softness makes you forget, right? Like that's the idea, right? That you, maybe you're traumatized by that moment and your brain seals it away like scar tissue, you know?
Starting point is 01:10:16 Maybe. If you're hard, like this guy that you're talking about, the old World War II guy with a flame thrower, Walter Philippac, he delights in the, in the mood. You remember everything. You remember everything you smelled like. Yeah, he must really smell like he's like, well, some of them japs that have grenades on them didn't really want to take them prisoner, did you? And it's like, yeah, probably just shoot them from 50 yards away and keep moving. Like the first time some piece of shit that I was trying to show mercy
Starting point is 01:10:41 blew my buddy up with a fucking frag grenade. We're not taking more prisoners after that. You know, show mercy blew my buddy up with a fucking frag grenade. We're not taking any more prisoners after that. You know, you're not your buddy. Nah, no, they want Asians in war. The Japanese, the Vietnamese, like they do that grenade shit. They trick you. They are sneaky.
Starting point is 01:11:01 They're blowing themselves up. Like I have I imagine that like back in the day, like England and France are warring. They're like, Oh, your prisoners of the Queen now. Like none of those French guys, I imagine being like, well, that's this sucks. It is over. Like they didn't like try to blow them up. Like whatever. Like they were kind of like, fuck, we got got. The Europeans didn't have that intensity. They didn't have that drive, that need to win. And the Japanese were hardcore, you know, that's so committed. They sort of had a religion around that emperor. They worshipped him as a demigod. And so his word was sort of law. I mean it was law even when he
Starting point is 01:11:52 Surrendered he never said the word surrender and is in his address and he also spoke in Like the high version of their of Japanese like whatever the fancy version is that most people couldn't even understand So like they listened to it and they're like what? They not not a lot of people listen to Emperor Surrender radio address even understood what it meant. It had to be explained to them afterwards. You think about it, Japan's the only reason it was World War II and not like regional conflict 3000. Because without Japan, we wouldn't have got sucked in
Starting point is 01:12:23 and it would just be your- Overlooking Italy entirely. Battling. I expected more from you. Well, they're in the region, you know. Cause without Japan, we wouldn't have got sucked in and it would just be entirely more from you. Well, they're in the region, you know, in region. I was just calling you. I was just nitpicking. If Japan never got involved, there would eventually be some kind of attack because like the, the kind of joke is that Hitler was furious when he found out that Japan attacked the U S right. But in reality,
Starting point is 01:12:51 he was like historical records point that he was like thrilled about it because it's like good. The Japanese are fighting them. They'll strike because it's not like, like sure we were going to leave them alone while it was a conflict within like France and Germany and stuff for the most part. Um, but if Britain was like invaded and taken over, I don't think that our whole, like, uh, you know, keep to the new world ideology would have lasted that long, especially because like Hitler's eventual plan was like world domination, maybe a bit extreme, but at least European domination, right?
Starting point is 01:13:23 He was like one of the last emperors who thought to conquer the world I don't think he would have left us alone eventually or someone else and Honestly, if Germany had the capability to take over Europe and we didn't do anything Then maybe us fighting them would have been a lot worse. So Mm-hmm. I don't know. I think I think maybe it's just not as quickly Roosevelt ran on the idea that he kept us out of the war, right? He was pretty old. Well, initially up until the war, I can't help, but wonder if he would have kept,
Starting point is 01:13:56 you know, done that sort of isolationist policy and let Germany do whatever. And I'm not so sure if we weren't attacked that he would have gotten involved. I believe it was very, the idea of joining the war was incredibly unpopular until Pearl Harbor, because everyone, everyone was like, dude, it's Europe, dude. They fight all the fucking time. Like, let them do their little battles and not our problem. And then Pearl Harbor happened and everybody's like, nah. It's interesting that Italy and Germany declared war like the next day or so
Starting point is 01:14:29 Like they didn't have to they could have left the onus to the United States to declare war on them But because as soon as they do that we initiate the Germany first policy we're going to put we're gonna take whatever it was Obviously Hawaii, but like maybe Wake and Guadalcanal and triangulate Japan and hold them at bay. But we're taking Germany first. We're winning Europe first was the plan. I think it's, if it had gone any other way, I think the future is really dark because the Manhattan Project needed to happen.
Starting point is 01:15:00 We needed to get that nuclear weapon first. And I don't know that that happens if we don't get drawn into that war. I think the Nazis get it. I think the Nazis have Europe and the nukes. I do not see a scenario where Hitler wins Europe and then is satisfied. Especially not with the advancements in science and stuff like that they're making. I think it may have been after Wilson, or sorry, after FDR. I think it may have been sometime later. I think eventually Germany does something
Starting point is 01:15:28 against the United States. And then like Kyle said, at that point, we may not have been as much of an arms race as much as it was. Oh no. What about current events? Do you see a scenario where Putin take Ukraine and says, all right, that's all I wanted. It's cool. I don't think we're going to take it. I don't know. I don't know if Russia has the capability to do what Hitler tried to do just because of the way techs advanced and stuff like that. Would he want to take more? I would say absolutely. Would he have the capability or like the means of doing it? Probably not. But
Starting point is 01:16:04 it seems like he does baby stuff right like you took Crimea rebuilt take more of Ukraine if we just say hey like Kyle said in Civ you know you want peace yeah absolutely now this becomes our land now we solidify now we have our armed forces all of our troops can advance and like right now we've got all those long-range missiles making it hard to advance to the front lines you declare peace and sieve for that reason the video game civs it's like oh yeah thank you for peace i've got 10 turns to mass my forces on your border and then we'll begin a new war one which i will be in the stronger position you're gonna be fucking rebuilding your dams i'm gonna be massing troops you know it's what the that war needs to end with the Russians getting some land and the Ukrainians
Starting point is 01:16:48 getting some Assurances whether that's their own nuclear stockpile back or joining NATO, which I think is a terrible idea Something's got to happen so that they believe there will not be a third Incursion, you know into their territory in five, six years. Although you got to wonder how long Putin's going to live. I think he's younger than our world leaders. He's like a spry 71. But yeah, I don't think that I just think the world is so different now.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And Russia does not have the ability to project power outside of their own direct region. NATO is a thing, and if they step foot in Poland, it's fucking over. We've talked about this a thousand times. We blow them out of the water technologically, militaristically, fill in the blank. They can't compete with us. And so the way you would immediately destroy Russia, if Putin's goal was like, yeah, I'm gonna immediately destroy Russia, invade Germany, see how that goes for you, dumb ass. You will immediately be slapped down.
Starting point is 01:17:54 You will be decimated. I got so much respect for the Poles. I don't think he makes it to Germany. Like, I think Poland's hard fucking core. Yeah, or try invading Poland. Yeah, try invading Estonia or Latvia or Lithuania one of them Well, all right. Well, hang on a minute They will f you up man, they will there's like seven guys there the dress
Starting point is 01:18:18 Over there and Taylor's like go ahead take them kill them kill all of them right now Like the overselling. Oh yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll turn around. You go ahead. I won't even look. I just have no fear of Russia.
Starting point is 01:18:33 I think that's the reason Russia and I'm not a political expert at all. Uh, but I believe the reason Russia is in the position there with Ukraine is because they can be because Ukraine is one of the countries that, uh, defense force wise, uh, it was beneath Russia and somehow they're in the position they are. I think Russia tries what they're doing now with any established nation. Um, and it's not going, could you imagine if the United States tried to take Puerto Rico, like if we really wanted to, like how fast that would happen? Evening that exactly. You We do that in an evening.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Exactly. You wouldn't even hear about it. It would be like. If you were to trend on Twitter for four minutes and it'd be like, I guess we have that now. Exactly. Well, Puerto Rico is like a, what do you call it? A territory. So like.
Starting point is 01:19:18 See, look how fast that was. That's like that guy. That guy's like, he's like, I have the power to make you forget you were gay. He's like but I'm but I'm not gay. See. That's funny. But I never was. He should have said it's not working. But be funny. No.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I'm feeling if anything kind of like double down, I'm feeling it right. Are you sure this is working? I'm like, oh, realistically, I think that, yeah, like Ukraine is the one. And then like, I feel like some lot of years would have a hard time and stuff like that. But other than the Balkans, I feel like this does. Yeah. What do you want it to? Absolutely. If you were to tell Putin, he could push a button and be commander of the world.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Sure. But I don't think that it's in the cards. In fairness, I would do that too. I'm sure you want. What's your first order? We're, we're transferring a lot of players to the blues. A huge amount. I'm wasting on Taylor.
Starting point is 01:20:26 What about world economy and military? Shh, I'm doing a draft. Shut up. Well, the military from President Taylor has gutted the military in order to fund the most technologically advanced NHL team
Starting point is 01:20:38 of all time. It would it make January 6th look like a cookout when people showed up to depose me. I'd be hanging from the Lincoln Memorial. Record four hours of power and the tyrant is dead. It's unbelievable. My partner moved. Everyone came together to hang him from the White House.
Starting point is 01:21:05 I'm the, in history I'm known as the great uniter. Because everyone, I like treating it like a monopoly, where I'm like spending money to buy Greenland, and then I get hooked, and then I'm like buying Switzerland, buying Italy, buying all sorts of different countries. That, now that would be sick. It's like that joke that if like Hitler died in like 1936, he would be remembered as one of the great unitors of Europe,
Starting point is 01:21:35 one of the great people who like rebuilt the economy, brought the people together. It's when he got a little too eager. Dude, literally. Yeah, he dies in37. Everyone would be would be looking back like, not even what's the excuse for our shitty economy? Exactly. What a hero. Hitler got it done. And then he tragically died of a brain injury. I think he could have gone even deeper because I think if you don't do the Holocaust, if there's no Holocaust happening in the background, he could have taken a huge chunk of Russia and made a peace deal with Stalin, and he could have immediately made peace with France, and everybody would have given him peace, and he would have been
Starting point is 01:22:15 able to keep so much territory. He'd have been like the third largest country in the world all of a sudden, and everybody would have been chill. And then especially if he if he if he turns on Japan and becomes the good guy, Hitler could have been looked upon very fondly. I love the idea of like the multiverse, because I want to go to that place where Hitler was a chill guy and he didn't do the Holocaust. And he's remembered as like a golden hero of the tiles, like out of every multiverse I could go to that. I want the one where Hitler is a revere.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I want to look because so many of them, they hate the guy. You're so much about as they should be. He's desperately invested in that. You don't know that about making fucking hockey on the moon. I can't have a little fun with Hitler. Come on. Everyone would have enjoyed. I love this was a free country. I thought I could do it It's a nice Hitler even I told you the Holocaust doesn't happen Well in my version he's special my version. He's not I like that. I like that. I do think he
Starting point is 01:23:21 It's one of those I love World War two And I like pouring over it. And I just never understand why he had to invade Russia when he did. I know he needed oil and he wanted those oil fields, but he just didn't make any sense. So it's just like dividing his forces the way he did and outrunning his supply lines. It was almost like he didn't know what the fuck he was doing, which is probably what happened. Tanner know what the fuck he was doing, which is probably what happened. You think he was talking over some generals?
Starting point is 01:23:49 Absolutely. There's a hilarious story about his fucking lack of sense of humor where he tells the guy to swat a fly in the military war meeting. He's like, spot that fucking fly Hitler does. And the guy goes, actually, I'm a Marine or whatever. You want to talk to Dieter over there. He's a Luftwaffe, he's air force. You know, making a cute little joke. And Hitler sent him to the front lines in Russia.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Now that's, you know, now I don't like that one bit. You're souring me on this guy. First day you tell me on this guy. First day you tell me about this. That's a good joke, right? You can imagine it. Yeah, that is a good joke. And you know, that guy was like, I'm going to make Zafio a laugh. It's going to be a good day. He's going to, you know, smile. He is notoriously difficult to make smile.
Starting point is 01:24:43 He got home that night to his wife and she's like, so what did he think of my joke? He just started wailing on her. Well, honey. 40s beatings. We are moving. Back to your coat. To the Italian Riviera? No.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Close, you know, relative to Z moon, you know, but not really. Yeah, that would suck. That guy shot a shot. Hitler was humorless. No joke. That's the general. You know, I feel less bad for what I remember. He was a high ranking Nazi general. The guy who had to have made that joke a little less solid. I like it. Wendigoen, what's your take on the Mario United Healthcare CEO situation? That is so fun. I thought you were about to be like, what is your real take on Hitler? Let's get down to pressing. Thumbs down, next. I don't know if that's a bad, right?
Starting point is 01:25:48 So I think murder bad, right? You're simplifying it, carry on. I am simplifying a little bit, running over some details and stuff like that. I understand being upset. I understand fury to that degree. I've had a bunch of family who have had intense problems with healthcare and stuff like that. Uh, I, I get the anger of it.
Starting point is 01:26:12 I do not know how much a move like that is actually in any way righteous because what it feels like to me happens there is you're killing someone cause you're killing someone because you're angry, right? And what ends up happening is that guy's dead. And obviously a shooter, anyone who agrees he should die thanks of it in the larger form of like, well, his family, his personal life didn't matter for the greater good. The same way we would see assassinating a political figure, like forget the soul, forget the people, family, stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:26:50 It's hard for me to step over that unless it's really justified. It's gotta be like a Hitler level scenario, right? At the same time, I don't think that anything is accomplished by that, because all that happens is a new CEO steps into power and the giant machine of the healthcare industry keeps marching forward.
Starting point is 01:27:11 I don't think killing this guy, it'd be, I mean, like I would love for healthcare in the United States to become better, but I don't think killing this guy is gonna solve any of it. So what I think it will ultimately come down to is a murder because someone was angry and we have hundreds of those a day. So. I'm on the other side. I just lay it out from my perspective. I have long maintained
Starting point is 01:27:33 that if you could get a superpower of being the world's best surgeon or the world's best assassin that you could make the world a better place with your assassination skills, right? Assuming you have a heart of gold, you're going after the future Hitlers and the worst actors on the world, and you somehow have judgment, but it's probably far better than my own. But killing the right people can have a greater impact for good
Starting point is 01:27:56 than just being a great surgeon who heals people who are sick at the time. And while I agree, if it's just this killing, you know, this story ends in a few weeks and no change is really made. But if we start like going after people who are genuinely evil, if we have a class war instead of a culture war, right, if we,
Starting point is 01:28:25 I don't know why all the guns are aimed at trans people, like they have no power, if we aim them at the people who have power and use it to do evil things, could the world be a better place? Is that the change we actually need? Is that the emptying of the swamp? I don't want to come off as I don't think like any historical violence is justified, right? Cause I think there have been points of violence in history that at times that like kings were usurped and revolutions and stuff like that, right?
Starting point is 01:28:57 Like I don't want to, I mean, I'm American, right? The whole reason this country- To me, that's what this is, a king got usurped. Here'd be my question, right? And I don this country to me, that's what this is. A king got usurped. Here's here'd be my question, right? Yeah. And I don't know anything about this. The CEO who was shot. What was his name? I see or something. I'll look it up for you. Whatever that guy's name is. Is there any history? Do we know of any like thing that he has done to make
Starting point is 01:29:22 healthcare, you know, harder to get or a more complicated process. Like has he actually done any wrong or was Luigi just upset with the company and decided to shoot someone at the company? So his name is Brian Thompson. And at this point, I'm a little worried I'm consuming propaganda and then I'm repeating it on my show.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Like you hear the thing about how he was using artificial intelligence because the actual humans who were reviewing claims couldn't get over their empathy and they were paying bills and he knew that the AI had a high error rate that would reject things that shouldn't be rejected, but it was good for profits. Is that even true? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I mean, it's a little convenient and I read about shit like that on Reddit, which is a way to get misinformed. I know something about that. I know United did that, but I don't know if he, did he implement it? Is that correct? So what I know about it is that the rejection rate
Starting point is 01:30:16 was apparently like 36%, which is almost double the normal rejection rate. So AI aside, something was wrong. AI is almost, if the AI was doing it, it's almost better. You know what I mean? They said the AI increased the rejection rate. They said, right? I don't know how good my sources are. I want like really good reliable sources that have been vetted and you know. I want to hear from Wario.
Starting point is 01:30:39 So, but This is just the beginning. I don't know. You want to empty the swamp? I don't think, you know, voting in Trump is how you're going to empty the swamp. Maybe I'm biased. Prove me wrong. I hope you do. But you do a whole, I'm sorry to interrupt you and cut you off, Woody, but I'm just
Starting point is 01:31:01 picturing Taylor as Mario. Dude, you'd make an amazing Mario if you just went with the mustache for a while. I could. Kind of a slight to Wendigoon right here as a mustache. What are you talking about? He's clearly a Luigi dude. I'm a main character? And you were saying my idea of kingship was gay and dumb? I'll be honest I always played Luigi. I thought Green was just a cooler slicker skinnier guy. I wanted to play him. He's a little more levity in Luigi. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:31:28 I'm sorry. It's all good. I think I got it. I was probably going to start repeating myself anyway. So yeah, I mean, I don't hate it. I think this is a bad person who was the planet got a little bit sunnier the day that he died, and I don't know who should be next. Here's my point.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Whoever takes action has great wisdom. Is okay. So I will. I like that. If like after this happened, healthcare companies around the world started effectively saving more people, right? Like not, I understand that healthcare systems
Starting point is 01:32:02 in the US have to exist because things cost money, right? A lot of it more than it should, but doctors, equipment, medicine, all that, it costs money, there has to be some way of doing that. The fact that it is a trillion dollar industry is inexcusable. Like sure, I understand it'd be big, but that, the people getting that rich off of it,
Starting point is 01:32:22 I understand the upsetness, right? If tomorrow, all of the healthcare industries change tone, and if that one that United, right? If United specifically gets better and starts to not be as predatory with their business, then there may be some ground to it, right? However, I think what would probably happen, it would be the same thing if the CEO died of a heart attack
Starting point is 01:32:44 or was in a car accident. Someone just replaces them and nothing changes. Yeah. Business is evil. The thing about the heart attack is the next CEO needs to watch his cholesterol, not his back. I understand what you're saying. When it's a gunshot, the next CEO says, oh, you know, one downside of the AI double rejection software we're thinking about implementing is someone will try to assassinate me for killing their mom.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Hey Patel, can we put your name on the shit? And the next guy, maybe it's Eili Kamal, who's the leader of Iran, something like that. Whoever's doing something to people in the world, I believe in assassinations to make the world better. I would say this, I would say you may be giving the world, I believe in assassinations to make the world better. I would say this, I would say you may be giving the CEO, whoever comes next, a little too much credit there because I think rather than thinking
Starting point is 01:33:34 maybe I should be nicer, the lesson they'll take away is maybe I should be more protected. Maybe I should like have guards or something. They learned the wrong lessons from it. And to a degree, I almost get it every now and then I'll make a, like a true crime video and I'll have someone from the town that I made the video about be like, I knew that guy. I'm going to find where you live.
Starting point is 01:33:56 I'm going to come beat your ass, stuff like that, blah, blah, blah. The lesson I take away from that is never like, well, I should stop talking about people and true crime stories. The lesson is like, yeah, but you're not really doing anything wrong there. This guy, I'm not, I'm not correct, but I'm saying scale that up. You're like CEO of these companies. You're like, well, I just have that they do whatever means to justify it. I just have the interest of investors or I have to keep the company running, blah, blah, blah. So that scales up. I don't think they're taking the right lessons from it. If they were, I'd be surprised and that would be great.
Starting point is 01:34:27 But I feel like whenever you use a violence against an establishment, the establishment just teaches itself to ward off violence rather than self-reflecting and changing the thing that spurred the violence in the first place. you this, all of you, if you were on that jury, would you be, would you be like, Oh, yeah, I never heard of this case. Oh, I'm impartial as fuck. You don't even know guns. I mean, I guess. I was on the jury. Yes, I would do that. If I'm the actual me though, like who's already talked about it on my show and stuff. Yeah, I might as well show up in a freaking Luigi outfit so people know that I'm pro Mario and I don't waste time. Yeah, that'd be sick.
Starting point is 01:35:09 No, you can't just free some guy who's running around shooting people. Really? If I'm on the jury, I can. If you're on the jury, you absolutely can. I love when other people are these really cool- I love when we disagree. I love when we disagree.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Yeah, I'm with you, Woody. I would, I would, I would, I'd be a hung jury or whatever you call it, mistrial or something like that. I could probably do either. I feel like at some point I could wait till the trial was deep and then I could just ruin it and make a mistrial maybe,
Starting point is 01:35:35 or I could just wait until we were voting and create a- I don't know how it works. Can you fuck with them a little bit? Like, I'm really not sure it was him who committed the murder, but I do see him jaywalking in this video. Yeah. Yeah. He's guilty on count 38. Usually like these sorts of events precipitate a significant sort of violence.
Starting point is 01:35:56 I'm sorry, Taylor. Can you start over? I was saying that usually stuff like this, like it precipitates an increase in similar crime like other assassinations, things like that. And I think I said on PKM, we talked about it, there's like, I feel differently, like he murdered him, but like, I do feel differently looking at it as like a healthcare CEO that implemented AI that did result in a lot of people dying, perhaps, not even perhaps, definitely needlessly in a lot of cases, then I do if he just killed some
Starting point is 01:36:28 plumber, like obviously there's a different feeling there emotionally, but when you, when you encourage this kind of thing and you say like, yeah, awesome. Like not all of them are going to be like killing healthcare CEOs. If you look at a lot of the communists online who like this, they would be equally happy killing regular millionaires, business owners, people they perceive to have what they deserve, people who aren't sharing the wealth. And so it's like, ah, they got that guy way up there.
Starting point is 01:36:59 And then, you know, I'm not rich at all. And so I have no fear of any of this, but like eventually stuff like this tends to matriculate down and it gets more out of control. And that is a reality that needs to be thought about. Yeah, that's true. It's why I delved into the hypothetical when I asked and was like, and this person has great wisdom,
Starting point is 01:37:18 you know, more so than I do. Vigilante justice, it only works when the vigilante is a really good person. Yeah, otherwise it's crime. Otherwise, it's crime. Like, literally all crime is committed with the idea that you want to make your life better. Yeah. All crime is committed with that idea.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Well, you know, if we count some things as momentary, like right now the second better, sure. It would be hard to say that things like can I say right on the show whatever yeah right it would be weird to say things like that cause like positive effects for your life it's more so just momentary like take this thing but in that sick person's head they in that this is the thing they want they are believing something incorrect and immoral.
Starting point is 01:38:06 Oh yeah. I'll give you that. Sure. I'll say this for like the CEO thing. Um, I also don't want them to make it sound like I think that there's never a point where like, you know, we're not asking anymore. I just don't know if this was that scenario. Uh, I I'm in the position where like, yes, I agree with Taylor.
Starting point is 01:38:23 It's hard to feel sympathy for him. But I also will say that a murder is a murder over something that I think ultimately was an act of vengeance rather than like a saving grace, right? Yeah. I wish we could hear more from Mario. I know we saw him yell that people won't believe you. I want that manifesto so bad.
Starting point is 01:38:43 I want the manifesto. I want to hear his thoughts and his motivations and just to know if it is like a revenge, you know, you didn't pay my bills. I'm coming for you. I have no point. I'll never get out from this debt. What was my life worth? Or is it I'm trying to make this world a better place?
Starting point is 01:38:58 And in my estimation, removing you is a great place to start. Apparently, he came came from money. I did hear about that and it frustrated me because people are murdered all the time and I don't see terrorism charges. Well hold on. Compare Luigi to a similar case of someone who saw like a specific organization or body of people as being wrong
Starting point is 01:39:22 and decided to start killing them. I would say Luigi has a lot in common with Ted Kaczynski, right? The Unabomber. Ted's whole idea was that technology is going to be the problem. He wrote about it in his manifesto, Industrial Society and its Consequences. And there was a ton of stuff in there that he was right on the money about. He wrote it in 1995 and he says stuff like there will become institutions of technology in which humans treat their social standing in these pieces of technology more important
Starting point is 01:39:54 than their interpersonal relationships and day to day lives. And it will break down structures of family and community. And it's like, yeah, that guy was, you know, batting a hundred. No one ever calls him dumb. Yeah, no one ever calls him dumb. Exactly. But he followed the logical conclusion of that, and said that anyone any form of society that causes that future to happen is bad. So we need to get rid of it. And in some cases, he killed and a couple of people he did kill are ones who it's hard to feel sympathy for.
Starting point is 01:40:25 He tried to kill like people at Exxon who were responsible for covering up the oil spill, or like the lawyers who try to keep it. And it's like, yeah, we can get behind that. But then his natural conclusion to that was one of the people he killed was a manager of like a radio shack, like a computer store in LA. He put a bomb on an airplane that was leaving LAX because he was like, if we can start blowing up airplanes, that will cause people to distrust, you know, like travel highways and that will cause a dissolution with it.
Starting point is 01:40:56 And it got to the point where he was wanting, he started to send bombs to professors. He started to send bombs to like tech departments. And he would get assistants, right? Like he would get secretaries and assistants sometimes. Most of the people who were harmed in the explosions were like it. Take it. We got assistance, right? Like you get secretaries and assistance. Some of most of the people who were harmed in the explosions were like secretaries of professor knew that was happening.
Starting point is 01:41:10 That's the other thing he had to have gotten some sense you know, cause you're going to do this. You're going to check the papers or the news. However, he was getting his information and make sure that it was successful, but he had all that collateral damage and he continued so in his head. was like, these are, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:29 acceptable, you know, caught in the crossfire cases for my true goal, which is disassembling this potential maniacal technocracy that he wanted to avoid. And so, like, anyone who's that, And so like, and anyone who's that, you know, devout that much of a of something like that ideological, like you won't be able to be like, Hey, you killed a secretary with that most recent one. He would respond to like, Yeah, and that's a shame. And that's too bad. No, no, no, the way he phrased it, because he wrote about it in his journal when it would happen is that these secretaries and stuff were complicit.
Starting point is 01:42:07 They were a part of the machine for even allowing themselves to be in the position. He only expressed frustration that he wasn't killing enough people because most people who were around when the bombs went off were injured or maimed instead of dead. So he was mad about that, but never mad about who the target was. The way he phrased it when he posed the hypothetical of what happens if some people on airplanes or some people get caught in the crossfire, he said, well, you can't eat your cake and have it too. That's the way he looked at it.
Starting point is 01:42:33 So I think a lot of the time with figures like Luigi, figures like Ted Kaczynski, every now and then they may say something like Ted talking about social media, like effectively predicting a 20 years early. Or you have like Luigi hitting someone who did a bad thing. Typically, the kind of person who is willing to throw away their life to end someone else's life isn't someone who's ideologically involved with like us or the majority of society, right? Typically, even though they may, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:02 a broken clock's right twice a day, even though they may do something that aligns with us, I would imagine if Luigi had the chance to continue on and act this out, there would be a target that we wouldn't be so agreeable with. And then it becomes a question of, is this guy just looking to kill people he doesn't like? That's the case more than not. Dude, the CIA fucked up. They could have, Kaczynski just could have been a guy doing math and then they poured four gallons of LSD in his mouth and they were like, Oh, the MK Ultras is a little, a little over pressed in his history, but it is funny to imagine that they just, this guy's brilliant. Let's freak them out. Yeah.. Turns out he doesn't do what we want.
Starting point is 01:43:46 He's like totally lost it. All right. And John didn't do any of the things that you're saying makes him bad. You're like Ted Kaczynski was bad. Therefore Mario is to what Ted Kaczynski is the future Mario had he not been caught, but there's no evidence of that. All we have a Mario so far is one very well targeted act of goodness. I would say you are right.
Starting point is 01:44:11 I'm not saying definitively like Luigi would have been Ted Krasinski. I'm just saying like compare him to a similar person of another case we have historically. And I am like imposing my own ideas about him a little bit. Why don't you compare it to something like that guy smoking the child molester who had molested his son at the airport. Remember the dude fires that revolver shot under his arm from the pay phone? Gary, no! Why Gary? Why? Good shot. I always give that guy credit for that shot. That's a good shot.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Yeah, and that's a good example of what we're talking about. You can identify that and be like, yeah, because it's not like Gary. They're okay. Hold on to finish the Ted Kaczynski thought. I'm more so saying that with Luigi, these are kind of where I think he was at. This is entirely subjective. If I think he was more figure like Ted Kaczynski than he was like an altruist or like a like a John Fox figure. So his name is Guy Fox, a Guy Fox figure or something like that. Oh, V. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:45:13 well, the real Guy Fox. Yeah, yeah. So V for Vendetta is like that's who the mask is based on stuff. The actual guy Guy Fox tried to commit the gunpowder treason to blow up the king and he's hailed in history as being like a hero who tried to stop a tyrant. I don't know if that's what he's actually like, but to me, Luigi is more of like a Unabomber figure than he is like that, but I could be wrong. That's just my interpretation.
Starting point is 01:45:37 We won't know because we need to know the alternative future where he doesn't get caught to see who's right. I'm sorry, Kyle. I was gonna say, you mentioned Guy Fawkes. Do you know about the Chamber of Little Ease? I do not know about that. What is that?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Can you say the words again? The Chamber of Little Ease. That is where Guy Fawkes was kept after the failed gunpowder treason and- Oh, he was tortured like relentlessly, right? Yes, it's a four by four cell. I think probably a four by four cube that he was kept in so that you so you couldn't sit and or lay down comfortable. I guess you kept him in there for a while. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:46:31 He should have lit that fuse. A chamber of little, a chamber of little ease. That's underselling. I'll, so, but to go off what you're saying, Kyle, cause that's a good like counter idea is like, I think his name's Gary plowsh, Gary plowsh or something or something like that the guy who shot the dude the teacher or whatever who there's also Maryann Bachmer I see I had the video of her doing it here So for those who don't know this video looks like a movie clip and you watch it without sound that there's music on it
Starting point is 01:46:58 For some reason it's a short but she shot her child's rapist in court like oh I've seen that one this clip will look like it's from a movie, but it's her like, you'll, you'll see a guy in the background react to the gunshots and you're like, Oh God, that's real. She just did that. Yep. Um, yeah, there's a couple instances of parents not putting up with that. Um, I saw one recently where a woman had sent her daughter's rapist on fire and burnt him alive. I think Yeah, I think everybody's on board for that. So exactly. So we have instances like that Where that is I would argue a revenge killing right like sure maybe Like maybe kind of like cosmically so they won't do it again.
Starting point is 01:47:46 But in most cases, like these guys are in jail, jail for life, whatever. They're not going to do it again. That's not what they're thinking about when they do it, right? It's a it's an act of revenge for their child's sake. That's an act of revenge that in my mind, like sure, it may not be legal, but that is so justified to me that it's like to have at it, right? Like, you know, someone does that to your child. It's like by natural law, you know, it's something else.
Starting point is 01:48:11 It's like my existence. Almost like it should be a sentencing option. Like, hey Kyle, listen, one of the things on the table, should you decide, you feel like this is 15 minutes alone. You know, you can handcuff him or not. Bring daddy's pliers. You can bring anything you want. He doesn't have to survive this situation.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Daddy's pliers, that's all. Ooh, that's good. This reminds me, do you remember my old punishment idea? Like 10 minutes in the chimp closet. Oh my God. Woo! Was it, all right, what was the option A? Like option B was the chimp closet. And closet and no matter what we made option A,
Starting point is 01:48:46 nobody wanted any part of it. Nobody wanted the chimp closet. I'll go fight Ukraine right now before you put me in the chimp closet for 10 minutes. They're wet. They've been in there a while. They're not happy. Why are they wet? Because I want to upset them.
Starting point is 01:48:58 It's vinegar. I don't want them in there a while. Every now and then you open the slat and douse them in the face with vinegar. It's hilarious. Just brought in a couple hungry rat wilers and just left the room. Like I don't know. I'm going too far. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:16 I probably am not really for this, but it feels like I am right now. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, I can't shake that. Like no matter how much you reason with me It's like should a parent kill the person that raped their child Yes, and I don't think I'm coming off to that point because to me that is such a visceral violent and personal evil That it's like, you know have fun and I get this is what I'm about to say is an entirely emotional answer I understand this isn't any objective value
Starting point is 01:49:46 or anything like that. To me, I can't contribute the same level of evil to a CEO, even though if I was to break down the numbers and look at it factually, it would like, if he actually was there. I get that. Yeah,, emotionally I feel the same way. Again, we're talking about like, I'm giving you the Golden Goose example of when it's clearly justified. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:50:15 It's like you did what to my child? There's nothing to stop me. There's nothing that will stop me from getting you. But this guy was a CEO whose politics and applications he didn't agree with. Although we don't know yet. I look forward to seeing this trial happen. And I pray, and I never understand quite what controls how involved TV cameras are with a court proceeding.
Starting point is 01:50:35 OJ Simpson always bring up, we had the Johnny Depp, Amber Heard thing. They had cameras in there. We got all those great gotcha moments. It was fun. It was entertaining. Man, does a trial need, this trial needs cameras. I would watch this a couple hours a day. I would subscribe to YouTubers who cover it.
Starting point is 01:50:55 You know what I mean? I wanna know what legal experts think about it. I wanna be part of jury selection. Like my God, I wanna, this is fun. This is some drama stuff because it's bigger than the two men involved it's this cultural class warfare thing that that hits both sides of the political spectrum and as man it hits the younger side even as much it hits everybody like like there's people from
Starting point is 01:51:20 every walk of life except for Fox News hosts who understand this you know I mean when I watch box they're just like they're so disconnected on this issue from every walk of life except for Fox News hosts who understand this. You know what I mean? When I watch Fox, they're just like, they're so disconnected on this issue in particular. A lot of times I watch and I'm like, you tell them, you tell them, that's how I feel too. But like with this one, they're like, it almost reminds me of them covering, like choking and sex. A few weeks ago, I saw one of the ladies on Fox talking about choking and sex becoming more prevalent and And and she's like railing against pornography. It's like, who do you?
Starting point is 01:51:52 Who do you think your audience is? Yeah Yeah, this is a little old on that one. Yeah, I would say that This is a scenario where I think the right wing like talking heads whether they be Fox News Ben Shapiro Trump Dave Walsh I Think Trump too. I'm not positive on it Matt. Maybe I'm doing but like these guys are all anti Luigi over there course or Mario. I'm fucking it up and I said somebody jokes. I got Luigi, but it's all in call him Mario okay yeah they're
Starting point is 01:52:25 all anti-Luigi over there but uh I don't think that's where the Republican population is overall I think that I think the whole American population is with this guy as a whole the majority of Americans are with this guy but not the only leadership he only needs one. Dude, he'll have way he like it's It's gonna happen like it's in New York, right? Like he's not gonna get convicted Like they will you just need one dude Multiple people on there You know I asked you to bet with me on this to gamble with me on this and I thought that I was taking the long shot By thinking that he would get off on this through some trial or what have you.
Starting point is 01:53:05 But you're thinking you agree with me now. Yeah, I've definitely switched over on it. Like, you know what? I think they're going to be so good. I don't think he's going to get a not guilty, but it could be like a hung trial or hung jury. Yeah, it'll be a hung jury. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Yeah. I'm fine. I think he walks. I think there's a good chance he walks away for out of that courtroom. And if he that then he's gonna start doing podcasts and that's gonna be great. Oh, I'll get it Yeah, we should have the fucking CEO killer on well, I'll dress up as Mario when he comes on. Yep. Yes I'll be the fake must what if he's like just insufferable Be like he's just he's just like not interesting? That was the one interesting thing he did?
Starting point is 01:53:47 That was it. It's like, you like games? Fuck no, dude. What a waste of time. He's incredibly well read. You like movies? I've never seen a movie in my life. I read.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Well, like any fiction? Absolutely not. Mostly Japanese Japanese. One of the craziest things he wrote, and this is maybe what leads me a bit more to thinking he's a Ted Kaczynski figure. One of the craziest things he wrote was his Goodreads review of Ted Kaczynski's manifesto. And hold on. This is this is good reading material for a podcast. Yes. Luigi industrial society.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Yeah, start with how many stars he gave it. Cause that he gave it four out of five. I remember that. Yeah. Four out of five. He thinks he knows better than the Ted. Cause I really looked up to him. This is the review. Let me get the actual screenshot. Cause this is a Reddit text post. I want the real up to him. This is the review. Let me get the actual screenshot cause this is a Reddit text post.
Starting point is 01:54:47 I want the real one to confirm. Okay. As far as I know to my current knowledge, this is legit cause he had a, like a good reads account where he rated a bunch of books and stuff and he rated industrial society and its future. So to the best of my knowledge, this is his actual rating four out of five stars, which is funny. And then he says, Clearly written by a mathematics prodigy, reads like a series of lemmas on the question
Starting point is 01:55:10 of 21st century quality of life. It's easy to quickly and thoughtlessly write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies. But it's simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out. He was a violent individual, rightfully imprisoned, who maimed innocent people. While these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy lewdite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary. A take I found online that I think is interesting. Quote, he had the balls to recognize that peaceful protest has gotten us
Starting point is 01:55:51 absolutely nowhere. And at the end of the day, he's probably right. Oil barons haven't listened to any environmentalists, but they feared him. Oh, wait, this is still his quote. Sorry. Continuing. When all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive. You may not like his methods, but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism, it's
Starting point is 01:56:14 war and revolution. Fossil fuel companies actively suppress anything that stands in their way and within a generation or two, it will begin costing human lives by greater and greater magnitudes until the earth is just a flaming ball orbiting third from the sun. Peaceful protest is outright ignored. Economic protest is impossible in the current system. So how long until we recognize that violence
Starting point is 01:56:37 against those who lead us to such destruction is justified as self-defense? These companies don't care about you or your kids or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck. So why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive? We're animals just like everything else on this planet, except we've forgotten the law of the jungle and bend over for our overlords when any other animal would recognize the threat and fight to the death for their survival.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Violence never solved. Anything is a statement uttered by cowards and predators. Yeah, I don't see. Okay. So he looked up to Ted K a lot. Yeah. That last quote goes so hard by the way, violence never sold anything is under by cowards and predators. That's fair It's fair. I'll stick with that but but but like man I hate this for fucking fear mongering from the far far left on the environment like Okay, I watch art
Starting point is 01:57:38 so I watch a ton of those YouTube docs about how the earth used to be and all the epochs that and and and the the gigantic volcanic eruptions and the meteors that fell for two million years at a time. It never turned into a flaming ball. Through all that, it turned into, you know what I mean? The idea that we're going to make this place uninhabitable, we might make it a little sweaty. We might make like, when you go by numbers of like in the trillions of billions
Starting point is 01:58:07 when you go by global scales there might be decimal points of change one way or the other we're not gonna ruin this plant because we can it's too fucking big and we're too we're too fucking small and it's not like our maybe if it was like what they thought in the early 90s and the population was just gonna
Starting point is 01:58:20 keep scaling up but it hasn't there aren't 10 billion of us there's not gonna be for a little while and there's not gonna be 25 billion of us anytime fucking soon, right? It's not gonna happen We're not gonna ruin this planet. It's a bunch of fear-mongering horse shit And what I always say about the carbon emissions is like I don't care what you do or what you say We're pumping every drop of that oil out. We're gonna burn it whether you like it or not and nothing will stop that I don't care if you come over with fusion tomorrow. You could have fusion energy tomorrow, turn fucking water into electricity and it's free. We burn every drop of that shit. The problem with a bunch of the like predictions,
Starting point is 01:58:58 like hysterical climate people make is like, it's genuinely like a pastor end of the world thing. We're now for a century. It's been like everyone, if we don't do this by this date in 1971, New York will be underwater. Oh, fuck. My bad. Well, actually, the coast of the Carolinas will be totally submerged by 1993 if we don't do. Oh, wait. And so it's just like failure, failure, failure.
Starting point is 01:59:27 And it makes them lose credibility. Do you know the, I'm sure Kyle knows about it because he's talked about it, that great ice shelf that's where in Greenland or something that's gonna fall off, you familiar with this? There's an Antarctic thing and then there's an Arctic thing. They're always worried about giant ice. Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. There's a very large like like Rhode Island-sized chunks
Starting point is 01:59:47 that might be breaking off. I remember a bit of that. Yeah. So I've learned more about that. It's not breaking off as quickly as they thought. Shock, surprise, surprise. Like to Taylor's point, these apocalyptic predictions always seem to be wrong.
Starting point is 02:00:00 They said it was gonna happen in five to 10 years. Now they're looking at it and they're like, it's not going as fast as we thought. You can picture a normal beach, there's an incline that leads to the land, right? The beach is on underwater, the water gets deeper, it's kind of wedge shaped, cool. Well, at this place, it's not like that.
Starting point is 02:00:17 It's like there's a decline and then there's a ramp and then it goes down again. And for that reason, once the water gets like over that hump, there's a big shelf that breaks off and they're like, ooh, shucks. When this big thing breaks off and slides into the ocean, it will have a dramatic effect. It turns out that the water under that shelf
Starting point is 02:00:37 stays fresh and colder and it's not getting sort of washed away and mixed in with the general ocean water that would otherwise be melting it. And that is why instead of five to 10 years, they're talking about 50 to 150 years, because the warm ocean water that was expected to melt it away just doesn't flow that much there.
Starting point is 02:00:58 It's all sort of self-contained in that. And the other thing about that oil, another thing about that oil, we are not running out. Like the one thing I don't like in that Land Man show, which is tremendous, the Billy Bob Thornton Land Man show was great. He was like, they keep saying, they told Jon Hamm in this board meeting,
Starting point is 02:01:17 they're like, yeah, this will make a fortune for you and a fortune for your children, but your grandchildren are gonna need to look to some new thing. And I was first of all, I was thinking like, you're really gonna eat through all those billions by when one generation that seems a little nuts, but okay. But but but on the other hand, I was like, right? No, it's not. Like, that's bullshit. I know you're not a real oil man, because it's horseshit. Every week, they find more. And when they
Starting point is 02:01:40 find more, they won't be like, Oh, look, a small puddle here. They'll be like, Oh, we just found like the third biggest supply of oil on the planet again. It's more than Saudi Arabia under Antarctica. There's more oil than all of Saudi Arabia under Antarctica. And it's up for grabs. Like there's some in the ocean around Antarctica. And it's weird. There's this pie graph.
Starting point is 02:02:03 It's not a pie graph. It looks like a pie graph, but it's weird. How there's this pie graph not a pie. It's not a pie graph It looks like a pie graph, but it's Antarctica and it's the its countries taking like making claims on the parts They supposedly own I think it's Australia What's at the tip of South America, what's that country down there is that Argentina? It's Chile and Argentina. Yeah, like one of them and I think Russia has some claims but it's my point is we're not running out of gas, we're not running up oil, we're not running out of coal, we just need to figure out how to make it burn a little cleaner and it's not like
Starting point is 02:02:37 I love that one like montage that the dude goes off on and in a landman about all the things that are made out of petroleum because it's not as gasoline. It's like everything that we touch. I'm looking around me and all this shit is made of oil. Like everything around me has some oil in it. Like from lip balm to keyboards, it's all got oil in it. So I just want to real quick back and then I'll hand off. I was like fact checking because I, because I always do that. Right, fact check, true. There's more oil, it appears in Antarctica than Saudi Arabia, which is the claim he made. And there's almost as much as the
Starting point is 02:03:14 Middle East region estimated because they haven't like found it yet. But more there than I expected. So I'm sorry, Wendigo and Kerry. No, it's your podcast, man. I just just happened to be here. So Kyle, with what you were saying about, like, you don't believe that there's, um, like actually that much of a threat or something like that. Here's the thing. And this is to bring it back to Luigi, right?
Starting point is 02:03:40 What if you did full heartedly believe that the earth is dying right now and we've got 10, 15 years to figure it out and there are people who are killing it every day. Would you not then feel at least a little less guilty about someone executing a CEO or like a Ted Kaczynski or something like that? No, I looked at that, like people who take out abortion clinic doctors
Starting point is 02:04:04 and stuff like that. I just see it as wrong like people who take out abortion clinic doctors and stuff like that. I just see it as wrong morally. You know, like, I see where you're coming from. Even if you thought that these guys were about to destroy the earth, right? Yeah, of course. If I genuinely thought that there was a grand conspiracy to destroy the earth. But what do we do without the oil?
Starting point is 02:04:23 Like it's, do you want it to end now or in 150 years when we're all dead? You know, like I say, keep burning it now so that we all get to enjoy life. But you know what I mean? I'm not going to be on nuclear by the Well, my point is this, right? A lot of the time with these figures like Luigi or Ted Kaczynski or something like that, the righteousness or justification of whatever the actor is doing most often comes down to their own perception and understanding of the world. Right. Take like killing a health care CEO, like 95% of the country can get behind that. Right. But then you take like people who own oil companies and businesses.
Starting point is 02:05:00 It's like, you're getting a little closer to 50 50 there. and businesses, it's like, eh, you're getting a little closer to 50-50 there. Can I jump in on this one minute? Like, to say that they can, that those people can get behind it, they can get behind the idea of it. Correct. They're not doing anything themselves. They don't even show it on the fucking news and I don't like that because we all watch the Reddit video and it's a little rough, you know what I mean? Like, I bet if they were there and they heard that poor man begging for his life, they heard that man saying, I want to go to my son's graduation in the fall.
Starting point is 02:05:25 Or that man saying, I'm so sorry. I'm here to fix it. Like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold it Luigi. A lot of times he learned his lesson. I was listening to the video the other day about how there is an insane difference in people who are, it's, it's something like a factor of three of people who are arrested by the police and there's like allegations of police abuse, stuff like that, right?
Starting point is 02:05:51 People are three times more likely to be let off if the jury is shown a video of the police beating a man, right? Versus just being told, oh, that guy got beat by the police. Because if they're just told it, it like yeah but that guy just like beat his wife or just killed a man like i don't care if he got beat but even if they know that and then see a video it completely changes their understanding like just watching unarmed man get beat you know yeah a lot of the time it is the idea versus the practicality but i think that's a bigger question of like human like you know commitment to the bit so to speak there's this great thing about
Starting point is 02:06:24 about human beings and the way we view like speak. There's this great thing about human beings and the way we view good guy, bad guy scenarios. There's something evolutionary. We're trying to figure it out. It's in our best interest, evolutionary, I think, to weed out the good guy from the bad guy if we come upon a fracas or something in the wild. And so as we watch these internet videos in modern times,
Starting point is 02:06:44 you're always trying to see who has the moral high ground in this fight. And there's that great video of this guy is robbing, he is strong arm robbing a gas station of all their cigarettes. He has one of those trash cans that sits upon rollers so he can roll it around and he's got a mask on and he's getting all their cigarettes. Now, if he was doing that to save people from lung cancer, no, that would be Luigi. By falling on his sword. Yes. I'm smoking all these so others don't.
Starting point is 02:07:14 He's got thousands of dollars worth of cigarettes and the black guy who's recording is going, ain't nothing you can do y'all. Ain't nothing you do. You got insurance, right? And this Indian dude comes out wearing a turban with a mop handle and he starts whooping the shit out of that dude. Do you know about the turban Indians? I know they whoop the shit out of people with mop handles
Starting point is 02:07:33 when they try to steal their cigarettes. The turban Indians are the warrior cast. They are the motherfuckers of India. And I asked my Indian friends, like, is it true? Are they actually tougher? And they're like, yeah, don't. One of them held the dude down and the other started hitting him with this two inch thick mop handle about the legs.
Starting point is 02:07:52 He beat this man's shin. Oh, I remember that. And the guy is great. And then the guy rolls over so his shins won't get bashed anymore because it must be excruciating and the guy starts whooping him right in the ass and then the ass crack like full bore overhead axe chopping swings. A real recording. The guy recording goes, that's called whooping your ass.
Starting point is 02:08:11 Yeah, get it. Get it. And the beating goes on for so long that if you hadn't seen that first part, you would feel really, oh my God, Indians are so fucking, but it's the Turban Indians, we gotta get rid of them. My God, what are they doing? This poor black man, what could he have done? He looks hungry.
Starting point is 02:08:31 Yeah, he was just hanging out with 10 cartons of his favorite cigarettes. And he got fucked up. He had a knife or something, he was brandished, and he was like, fuck you, I'm gonna steal all your shit. I love the idea that Quickie Martz have a, I'm gonna fuck this up, a kosh-tria or whatever the warrior cast is called in the back,
Starting point is 02:08:49 the ones that wear the turbans, just like break glass in case of emergency. Oh, they stealing the cigarettes? Get fucking Mohammed out here. We got work to do. We have our own warrior cast. And I think like no shirt overalls. The American warrior cast. A big guy but big in the way where it's like that guy
Starting point is 02:09:18 overeats and throws hay bales. Not a flabby gamer style. That's our warrior cast. I put them up head to head with the turban Indians anytime. We're a foot taller. Who has the mop? Who's holding the mop when the fight starts? Oh they both get a mop. I'm a fair man. That're a foot tall. Who has the mop? Who's holding the mop when the fight starts? Oh, they both get a mop. I'm a fair man. That's a rough fight. But they'd be friends by the end. They'd have more respect for one another. I think that's, you know, I like to think it's some community, some like togetherness. Exactly. This is another thing that would get me hanged from the Washington monument. We need all the rednecks in Alabama and all of the turban Indians to meet at the White House lawn with a bunch of mops later.
Starting point is 02:09:48 The economy has collapsed after President Taylor demanded all shirtless rednecks to the White House lawn for what he's calling the greatest, what is it, kumite in American history. It costs billions in infrastructure to make it happen. I just rewatched the video, kind of talking about it. Putting it head to head with the NFL. Oh, it's so satisfying. I lost billions in infrastructure. I just rewatched the video, Kyle. With the NFL. Oh, so satisfying.
Starting point is 02:10:08 And he described it so perfectly. That guy's overhead swinging like just. Power shots. If it were a video game, he's holding left click. He's holding left click for those. That's a full power meter. If I told that guy hit him harder, he'd be like, there is no harder. I'm giving up everything. That's a full power meter. If I told that guy hit him harder, he'd be like, there is no harder.
Starting point is 02:10:27 I'm giving him everything. That's all I've got. Yeah. You wanna try? And like he hits his butt, he hits his shins. Like he's sort of indiscriminate. Whatever is available to hit gets whopped. It would have hurt so God damn much.
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Starting point is 02:14:36 it absolutely works. And working for that product means some loopy ass dreams. It's fun. It's genuinely a silly fun kind of thing to take. Yeah. I have weird fucking dreams on that stuff. Do you ever get a nice goofy dream and like you desperately try to fall back asleep to get back in the goofy, like not even like a sex dream. Sometimes I do. Just like, man, this, that was so weird. And then you're trying to fall asleep before it like flutters away out of your brain. Like you're trying to actively hold on to it. I've gone back to the dream. I don't do well getting back in the dreams because I'm, I feel like I'm thinking too much about what the dream
Starting point is 02:15:12 was and that's keeping me from getting back to bed. But I don't know. Also check out our merch, PKA 10, get a hoodie, get a mug, get stickers, get, uh, what else do we have? stickers get. What else do we have? Uncle Cosmety, our most popular seller. It's like first and third and second place is a Taylor sticker. All right. All right. Let's keep that up gang. And I'm sure there's some Woody related product down the list that I didn't see. By the way, that's how we split revenue. Let's get the Taylor stickers to number one because Kyle's getting a little too big for his britches. That's how we're splitting revenue, just so we're saying this is just a note.
Starting point is 02:15:49 I'm just letting you know, I don't think we sold, we sold one Zach sticker. Zach, you get eight cents. I don't even know if it's true. I was setting up live streaming on my YouTube channel and I don't really look at our analytics or anything, but the dashboard that I was trying to find had our like I guess our merch is somehow linked through YouTube I have no idea but it knows what people are buying
Starting point is 02:16:14 So that's what's up. Oh Kyle. I'm sorry Zach says he linked it So he he did something I didn't fully understand by the Taylor stickers. Let's dethrone this Miss monster this that was my idea. Is it did, we made the like Kyle's tranny shop. Sure. Right. Yes. That was, no, no, that was a, that was a long time ago. I don't know if we have that anymore. No, no, we made it. It was my idea from forever ago and we made it and sold it. And then I think we brought it back. Hey, where's this first? Huh? Well, looking at everyone continue as you know, as you were.
Starting point is 02:16:47 Nevermind, ignore all you heard. Ignore that. Did Zach say Taylor's is first? Ah, Uncle Kyle's hoodie is second. Ah, well he must have different. Let's take a look at the Uncle Kyle's hoodie. Let's see, let's see what that is. Kyle's right, we are doing the split that way.
Starting point is 02:17:03 Jackie's Chili has two purchases. Fuck. That's also my idea. God damn it. That's also my idea. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody wants Jackie chili.
Starting point is 02:17:12 You guys got some winners. You got some losers that you don't want. Oh, look at that boys. Don't you want uncle Kyle's zoom in? That's oh, we can zoom in more. Oh, I like the descriptor. Stay warm and stylish. You guys deserve to be warm and stylish
Starting point is 02:17:28 and you deserve to do it in the Kyle hoodie. You don't have to choose between the two. No, you don't have to. Too many clothing distributors are asking you to choose between warm or stylish. But not us. Not us. What if we become, what if we become.
Starting point is 02:17:41 I want that one, I might have to buy it myself. I don't really have an in. What if we become big enough t-shirt moguls that some WAP tries to kill us? I can say it. I've got enough Italian ancestry. I can say they find out that we're getting our, uh, our, the PK merches exclusively made by child slaves. Yeah. That's how we save money. I mean, I feel bad for those monkey slaves more than I do the people slaves.
Starting point is 02:18:15 I wouldn't let monkey slaves make clothes. I wouldn't wear clothes made by monkey slaves. That's disgusting. What is it? What's the fruit they have? The monkeys retrieve through through like slave labor. Oh, I bet a bunch of them. Yeah, probably bananas and other ones. Hey, there was this whole story I read and it made it seem like the monkeys were really mistreated. Name a fruit that grows where monkeys live. Name something that's up a little bit. Name something that's inconvenient to do this.
Starting point is 02:18:39 Yeah, they got monkeys doing it. They got monkeys doing it. Spina trained animals. Did you know the Navy trained fucking dolphins and what are those sea lions I think? I get those confused with like there's like three things that looks like a sea lion. Anyway, they trained them to drown people. They trained them to drown people. He just made me laugh with the sea lion thing. At least three things that look like those fuckers.
Starting point is 02:19:09 Is that one? No, that's a sea otter. All right. It would look like that's what we call a small walrus. That's funny to imagine someone confusing a sea otter for a sea lion. And like, what's a porpoise? Is that, is that a little dolphin or is that, I don't know what those are. That's all the dolphins well I thought you meant a group of dolphins was called a porpoise Yeah, it's yeah, it's a pot and I think like some other like Also cool animals not on the same tier as dog actually not like manatees or manatees a group of Pomeranians is called a
Starting point is 02:19:43 doll actually not like manatees or manatees you know what a group of pomeranians is called a pom a puff oh that's adorable i like that yeah i kind of want to get a few more just so i can have a puff i would love that yeah of all this of all the stuff you text me like i like your i like the murphy pictures the most murphy is a adorable dog dolphins dolphins and porpoises are different oh yeah i thought they were like in a in a dolphins and porpoises are different. Oh, yeah, I thought they were like enough in a family called porpoises I'm just looking it up now. I believe you I was I was well Anyway, maybe train the Dolphins and the fucking sea lions to drown divers Like to kill people I thought that was all I knew that they had trained them to do bomb detection work to do people Detection work because you know there was that time where we were worried
Starting point is 02:20:26 that people were gonna like swim up and put magnetic bombs on our boats. Remember they blew up one of our, blew a hole in one of our boats in Africa. I can't like forever ago, like early 2000s or something. But I think they've been doing that since the cold war, training those dolphins. There's that epic story about the lady
Starting point is 02:20:41 who lived with the dolphin and was jerking it off and training it. You remember that, right? They made a special house. All right. So they made this lady lived in a special house that had like a canal, canals built in it. Like it was a dolphin house. It was so they could coexist.
Starting point is 02:20:58 And she was like training the dolphin. I think she was giving it LSD and jerking it off as rewards. I don't remember what she, I think she was trying to, I think she was trying to learn to communicate. I bet you could teach your man a lot. Yeah. Can you imagine? What sort of precedent is that setting?
Starting point is 02:21:11 We're going to have Navy SEALs masturbating dolphins on the field. Different program, different program. Different program, okay. Yeah, yeah. This is Mr. McKaylor program. I served my country. Yeah, Tim Kennedy kept that part of the job real quiet.
Starting point is 02:21:21 This sounds familiar. This sounds familiar just because I know you've told me this before, I think. Do you think she did this? Grandma, are you a hero? Nope, I served in the company of a dolphin. But I served in the company of heroes. Yeah, no, that's true.
Starting point is 02:21:38 Well, what did we learn? I think she was trying to communicate with a dolphin. Like maybe find some common language or something but I really just remember the the crazy details of her dosing the dolphin with LSD and You know having sex with the dolphin and that they lived in that sort of water house together where they could be like in a house But the dolphin had a place to swim. It was bizarre. That's been a lot of the dolphin. You said she master the dolphin But she didn't are known for like I mean things and that includes humans
Starting point is 02:22:12 a lot. Dolphin trainers have a ongoing problem with that. How can you say they rape things when they don't know what the word no means? It's true. Well that's what the scientists were trying to figure out if they knew what no no means, you know, that was the hole I think I've been doing that. They're actually getting only word. They do understand They were trying to see if they could charge dolphins with assault is basically what? Love it Completely untapped market of fines and regulations. Are there other videos online? pre-encil Yeah, I know of fines and regulations. Are there penises prehensile?
Starting point is 02:22:45 Yeah, they come out and get all giggly. And they're like- They're not totally, but they're like, they're strange shaped. It looks like, looks kind of like a pig's. That's so weird to say all that. I thought they could like grab things with their penises. No. I guess not. Oh, I don't think they're that prehensile.
Starting point is 02:23:00 Elephants can't. No, elephants can't. They're their penises? That's not the, that's a trunk. You want to bet? Why? No, because you seem really confident. I never want to have these fun little bets with me. Alright, I'll bet. I'll bet you a fun gift on Amazon. If I lose I have to send you something fun on Amazon. Oh, get me one of those steam engines that works off of a candle. You slide a candle into it and a little steam and you put a little water in and it turns a little wheel. Candles steam engine. I think it's called a Watson engine maybe for Kyle.
Starting point is 02:23:38 All right. And I, if I win the bet, you have to just dealers, you just have to send me something fun. Okay. So to clarify, what is the bet? What's to just dealers. So you just send me something fun. Okay, so to clarify What is the bet? What's the two betting parties? I think I think the elephants have like prehensile Cox and they could like throw a stick at you with that thing if they wanted to I think you want if you win the bet I I want him to just surprise me I just want something fun from the mind I already sent you weird gifts and I think he appreciates it I I do. Kyle sent me a fun couple. You guys want me to read my fact check statement? Yes. Yes. All right. It's a little unclear. Yes. An elephant's penis is prehensile, meaning it can be used for grasping. Not unclear at all. Also written as an elephant's penis is not only massive, but prehensile. As we watch
Starting point is 02:24:22 this baffled amusement as he used his penis to prop himself up in the photo, swat flies from his side and scratch himself on the stomach. So, it's like another arm down there. Imagine the lover that an elephant is to his lady. You can't do that. I mean, I can't turn. I feel like, I feel like I got like a little movement down there, like a ratchet kind of action, but like, but like,
Starting point is 02:24:44 he's got like a whole reach around the corner and scratch your left ovary kind of thing. That's normal, it's weird that you can't. Oh no, mine doesn't. I do not have a squid tentacle for a cock, no. Yeah. What is this that you want? A candle steam engine?
Starting point is 02:24:58 Oh, I would like a small steam engine, yes, for my desk. And if, what I really want, what I really want is a steam engine that'll charge my phone but I've looked into it you have you use it to charge a power machine it has to be so much steam I found one on Amazon but it's 120 allies maybe this is okay what that's funny. Anyway, let's Steaming for model miniature. This only has two reviews. Don't trust that It's 300 I'm going in the fucking merchandise kingpin over here can't get me a little steam engine Gambled on cocks and lost
Starting point is 02:25:48 this? He gambled on cocks and lost it. Now he's scraping the bottom of the barrel for the cheapest Watson engine on the internet. Wait, I'm gonna get a T-Mu steam engine. That thing's gonna scald me. No, I just found it's called the Sunnytech Mini Hot Air Stirling engine. Yeah, Stirling engine. That's what it's called. I'm sorry, Watson engine. All right. Let's add this to cart. Oh, Taylor Watson engine. All right, let's add this to cart Oh Taylor, can you give me a link? I want to know what you're getting in. Yeah, let me Find it Pay attention kids next time you learn about elephant dicks Don't bet Kyle when he enthusiastically asks you to bet it's a
Starting point is 02:26:24 I enthusiastically asks you to bet. It's a bad move. I genuinely was like only 85% sure I was right though, because you know, it could have been like a, um, a rhinoceros is Dick I was thinking of or something like that. But I was pretty sure I had seen an elephant pick up a stick with his dick and throw it. That thing looks cool, Taylor. And I think I bought a regular engine that Jackie put together and it was high quality
Starting point is 02:26:49 and we were happy. Well, this will be perfect for your desk and it probably won't burn your house down. Oh, I leave candles burning all over. I'm not scared. I do too, which by the way, I was gonna mention that black soot you have at the top of those candles. It's not black soot, it's a second candle placed in the top
Starting point is 02:27:08 It's a blue candle that's sitting in the lid of an identical candle to that see is there not oh I see it now Is there not blackness at the top of that one on the left? I mean a little bit I guess yeah a little bit you can avoid that and get a better scent if you trim the wick prior to lighting Yeah, Yeah, but but honestly, I come in here very early. You know, I think that advice was worth even more than a sterling engine. See, I want I want it to burn dirty because I'm trying to create heat for the room. Like I come in this room and it's freezing early in the morning and I light three candles and it warms the room up. That and my ridiculous computer.
Starting point is 02:27:46 Dude. Change delivery. I'm running the air conditioning right now. In mid December, I'm running the air conditioning because since I have three monitors and they put out so much heat that you need AC all winter long. I do the same.
Starting point is 02:28:01 AC's gotta be on because this room gets smoking hot from this computer, especially with like any all games are demanding. I keep talking about optimization, but not the 90s games. Taylor plays fair, not bears. I bet his computer runs at fucking room temperature. Yeah, it's really never hot. Now, that's the right address, right?
Starting point is 02:28:24 I saw you were streaming Elden Ring today. How did that go? Did you, did you slay any, any bosses? Do any impressive? I started turning the corner today. So yesterday I was struggling with some of the bosses. I'm playing this in normal Elden Ring. It's half knowledge and half skill. And what you do with that knowledge is you run around to the areas, you get the things that would assist you. Are you running with a big unga bunga weapon and bonking people? Well, you get it like a two-handed talisman
Starting point is 02:28:48 that helps you do that better. Are you quick and dashy and slashy? Well, you get like a successive hit talisman that might help you with that. Armor that fits your build, et cetera. Well, I'm doing just bosses on a randomizer mode. So my character sucks. And my fear is that people watching don't understand
Starting point is 02:29:04 I'm playing with one hand behind my back I'm eating all of them all the time and I'm embarrassed that I'm not playing well and my chat Doesn't even care if I'm not playing well, like they don't care the slightest They're not here for the gameplay They if they see me die six times and win on the seventh they're like, oh it must have been hard Like no one has ever said it but internally I feel like I'm not playing well But it's been fun. I've had a good time streaming. I'm not keeping the videos on my channel just because I was afraid
Starting point is 02:29:28 they'd take away from PKA, but I didn't think live streaming would like impact the long tail of a PKA or anything. It doesn't add to like mess like a, like a VOD would. So, um, yeah, I was just, uh, streaming for a while. I, um, uh, I mentioned it on the chat. We bought a good Christmas present from Mitch, that's Colin's friend. And I was thinking about live streaming anyway,
Starting point is 02:29:50 but that is what sort of tipped it over. It was like, I'm gonna earn some cash if this present was the lot. Do you wanna say what you got? Did you say what it was? I'm gonna, I'll tell you. You don't have to. But I'll tell everyone after Christmas,
Starting point is 02:30:02 I just don't want Mitch to know. I understand. Oh, okay, that's cool. That's cool. Yeah, real quick so we can react to it. And we have to understand he's really into this movie franchise. He has like clothes for it. It's an annual Christmas tradition for him. So I just put it in the chat. So, and Jackie was like, should we get that?
Starting point is 02:30:33 It's, it's, I actually, I think it's more about the either presence. We got our children. So, uh, uh, I was like, I'll live stream and I'll, you know, recoup some of the earnings. Nice. Well, shout out Mitch. And he is going to love that. I hope so. We think it's going to hit the target. Right up his alley. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:52 That's very cool. Well, I just took a $45 bath on steam engines. And so, and Kyle, it will arrive on December 23rd. Ooh. Just in time for Christmas. Just in time. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Yeah. Do you get all your shopping done?
Starting point is 02:31:12 Wendigoon? Yes, I did. I'm pretty much just buying gifts for the wife. And then if there's any family, friends or family who need anything, she gets gifts for them. She's much better than I am. But I got her some nice stuff. I think everything should be in by Christmas. So normally there's always like one or two stragglers, but I think I did right
Starting point is 02:31:32 this time around. Yeah, yeah. I got all my shopping done. I don't really, I bought an optic earlier and in my head, I was going to buy it anyway, but in my head I'm like, yeah, this is Christmas. This is like a scope for a gun. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, this justifies this. I'll call this Christmas for me. That helped me justify it.
Starting point is 02:31:53 So yeah. What'd you get? It is the ACOG. What's the designation for it? TAO2, I think it's the battery powered four power with the red Chevron. The reason I got the battery part is because I really liked the ACOG and I have one,
Starting point is 02:32:09 but the tritium, especially when you're trying to run night vision and stuff like that is so wonky, like one way or the other. So I figured just- It's not working for a while. It wears out and fades out. And when you ask Triticon about it, they're like, yeah, they do that, don't they?
Starting point is 02:32:21 They do that, don't they? This was too great. What are you talking about? Yeah, they wear out and then they're like, yeah, they do that, don't they? They do that, don't they? This was too great. What are you talking about? Yeah, they wear out. And then they're very, they're like super bright or like when you go into darkness, they're not bright at all and stuff. So if like you're using a flashlight, it gets away. Like I'd rather just have the control of the battery.
Starting point is 02:32:37 So I bought that because I finally, I think I've swallowed or spit out the LPVO pill, which I was on for a while for like the low powered variable optic. So I'm just coping and getting an ACOG, like I'm in the GWOT. So, what's the GWOT? The Grand War on Terror. Cause like ACOG's old technology from like,
Starting point is 02:33:00 you know, the Middle East conflict and stuff like that. So the idea everyone has is like, oh, well the new techs better You have to get the new stuff and I'm finally like well, maybe maybe it's not all that much better. So You still have scopes and stuff or did they take I don't I think some and some they took I'm sure But I think I think my dad's got most of the scopes and such and then he's got his own scopes and such I like the ACOG stuff, but they do wear out They do. Yeah, I had a bunch of ACOGs and I had a couple of elk hands
Starting point is 02:33:31 Can I I'm sorry is the thing I don't understand does a cog mean tritium like a cog wears out I thought a cog means Advanced combat optic I Can't remember what the G's for I don't remember what the G's for. I don't know what the G stands for. When I say ACOG, I'm talking about that that Trigicon. The Trigicon ACOG. Yeah, ACOG in particular.
Starting point is 02:33:55 And that that sort of form factor that it is. I had three of them. I think I had three different sizes and the tritium would was worn out in two of them the red ones But I had a green one too. I think I had a four or six power green ACOG and it worked really really well, but the red ones wore out and faded It is Advanced combat optical gun sight. That's what a cog stands for Gun sight seems obvious. I saw it's a little redundant. That's kind of dumb, right?
Starting point is 02:34:25 I don't know. It's the first time I didn't type in gun sight and it said American college of obstetricians and gynecologists. I was like, that can't be it. There's no way. Better that way. Yeah. I, uh, I saw that this school shooter this week was, it was a lady, I think.
Starting point is 02:34:43 Um, I, although I see some people saying it was a trans lady. It was a lady like born as a. Yeah, I thought so, too. I saw like one picture of her shooting trap, you know, which is a kind of sporting play shooting is shotgun shooting. And then I saw like a picture of her in a mirror was was the only two pictures I've seen over. She's wearing like a some German band t-shirt that I didn't understand her manifest was insane Zach says you would imagine so I mean she you know she went into a school
Starting point is 02:35:15 and and killed some people yeah I read part of it and initially when it was floating around I thought it was a joke because I'm like this is just so I'm pretending to be her but then apparently it's not a joke. And the clips I read were her. What was really funny is she put the manifesto up as a Google. So she tweeted a picture of her in the bathroom at the school doing like the okay thing,
Starting point is 02:35:36 pointed with the phone pointed at the floor right before she did it. And then she replied to that tweet with a Google drive link to her manifesto, but she forgot to make the link public. So for the first several hours, it was just a private link no one could access. And then eventually someone like someone who knew her got it or can bring me up to speed on this one. I've heard about it, but I'm not well informed at all.
Starting point is 02:36:01 Yeah. So it was two kills, I believe, if I remember right. It was in Michigan, right? Some Northern state. It was a Christian school. And there were the shooter as well as two others dead, if I remember right. So the okay thing,
Starting point is 02:36:22 I don't know how to ask this without looking like an idiot, but there is this okay means WP, which means white power. Is it was that what the OK was? No, so what it so my understanding what it was is like, it started out as like the OK thing means like white power and stuff like that. And that was like a thing that got passed around on news stations and stuff like that. And it became a joke. So it became like an end joke with 4chan and groups like
Starting point is 02:36:49 that to be like, this isn't a racist symbol, but haha, aren't we racist guys? And it was like, it was like an end joke, basically. So kind of in like an ironic way, sure. But it was more so just like I'm in the know about internet stuff, kind of simple. Kind of like using 4chan terms like Anan or stuff. In her manifesto she uses like, I don't think she calls herself a fem cell,
Starting point is 02:37:16 but she used a few internet 4chan-esque words. Hold on, let me pull that up. See if I can pull that up. It's wild how influential that site is. It doesn't. It's not way up there with traffic, but it does seem to house some of the people who do wild shit. That's all. Oh, she did. She did. So I haven't seen this part of the manifesto. She does expressly state racism like hard are and all. She says blank, though hard are worse. Once you sleep with one, you are one.
Starting point is 02:37:56 I don't care who you think you are, what you've done good for the world of yours. It will never matter because you will always have no thought and no brain to continue with. So there is I think it's safe to say there may have been some WP in legitimacy. Yeah, I was gonna say like when you describe the WP thing, I think I don't know the genesis of it, but at one point in its life cycle, it kind of was adopted by white power. Well, I mean, like if the joke is, haha, isn't it ironic that I'm racist guys? And you like you use that? I think it's like some people using it as a joke. Some people have a double ironic symbol that started as a joke. Yeah. So it's, it's like when you call Trump supporters garbage and they show up in trash bags, you know, having fun with it. Yeah. Yeah. So some people who believe in white power do it.
Starting point is 02:38:42 And then some people are mocking it and how stupid it is to say that Okay means white power and you can't really make a Determination based on people that hand sign. That was rough. I guess you know could have been could have been worse I saw some crazy stats on reddit. They were counting They said there were like 400 school shootings this year and and even the people in reddit were like wait what? And they and they like show their stats and Like well, that's bullshit though. You're counting anything in a school zone Like like you're talking about like some traffic to skew this boogie firing his pistol into the air. Yeah
Starting point is 02:39:17 That was that was literally counted. I'm sure So it's so hard to get it needs to be inside the walls or playground I'll accept playground as a school shooting. Yeah If it's an offense or something, yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I mean I think we can all sort of figure out which ones are school shootings and which ones are just bogey protecting himself Yeah Protecting himself. I uh, I actually didn't know this the shooter was 15 years old. Yeah I actually didn't know this. The shooter was 15 years old.
Starting point is 02:39:44 Yeah. Born in 2009. That is so weird to read. Didn't it? Happens every year too. They got that thing at the gas station that says if you were born before this, blah, blah, blah, you can't buy cigarettes.
Starting point is 02:39:56 And it's every day, they're just taking down the rest of her lives. Short, short lives. I saw someone, they got carted and they're like, damn, you did the math fast. And he's like, I saw someone, they got carded and they're like, damn you did the math fast. And he's like, I saw the 19. And it's like, oh, it starts with 19 year old.
Starting point is 02:40:12 Fuck. 15 year old open fire, fatally killing a student and a teacher and wounding six other people before taking her own life with a handgun. Please say. It was a 15 year old who did it. Yeah. See, I need my assessments to have a large amount of wisdom and she doesn't qualify. This one is not a val. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:37 Yeah. This one we give two thumbs down. Well, hang on. We do. Let's see about Taylor Taylor thumbs down or thumbs up? Kyle says down. No further context. Kyle says down. Taylor gives the school shooter one thumb up. Oh, rat!
Starting point is 02:40:54 All right. That is exactly what just happened. And you people continue to buy that man's chair. Really? Is that what you guys were talking about? Yeah. I was saying Mario, thumbs up, school shooter, thumbs down. What do you think, Taylor? And you're like, up. You know, sometimes you roll the dice and it comes up snake eyes. OK, well, then guess I'll change my.
Starting point is 02:41:15 I knew if I said, I was down there, I would. Of course. You think I'm going to agree? He would never. Well, it seemed, you know, broken clock and such. Seems Kyle's correct on this one. 15. How young, dude?
Starting point is 02:41:31 God. That's about right. Like, you know, like that's the age group that does this, I feel like. Yeah, but just like how pathetic that is in the sense of like how much life you have. Like think about what you thought when you were 15. Oh, like, man, like regardless of how serious you saw the world as
Starting point is 02:41:50 and to like end other people's life and your own over it. Like, oh gosh, even older than that. Like for me, like I was a very different person at like 22 than I was at 18. But at 18, I was pretty much a moron. was at 18, but at 18, I was pretty much a moron. And yeah, that's why I rarely think it's a good idea to try children as adults because my own like emotional growth was delayed maybe along with my physical growth. I was a bit of a slow bloomer and a late bloomer.
Starting point is 02:42:21 And yeah, so when I hear a 15 year old did this or that, I'm like, oh shit That's not even that they're in state. It could have got better I know I don't know if we talked about this yet, and it's probably not even a great topic but it's just a little bit of Donald Trump is winning and he's like continue to winning to win and I just think it's a I like to take note of it because There was that there was a while there where it was looking so perilous for him. It looked like he might be imprisoned any day.
Starting point is 02:42:48 It looked like he might spend the rest of his life in prison. And now George Stephanopoulos having to publicly apologize for what he said about the man. And then they've got to give him 15 million for his museum slash library, plus a million more for his legal fees. And it's like, what a fucking embarrassment for them. And what a win for Trump.
Starting point is 02:43:12 He said that Trump was found in court to be a rapist, but in New York, forcibly pinning a woman against the wall and penetrating with her fingers is sexual assault, not exactly rape. And the judge said, make no mistake, what Trump did is commonly known as rape. And we're holding him like to that standard, but legally from a criminal perspective,
Starting point is 02:43:37 that's just sexual assault. So to be clear, Donald Trump pinned a woman against the wall and forcibly penetrated her without her consent with his fingers But not his penis which means it's not rape in New York in other states. It's rape but in New York He is merely a sexual assault. Is this uh, is this that kook Carol? Yes, Jean Carol, yeah One who was on Anderson Cooper and they had to go to break. Yeah, I don't remember her
Starting point is 02:44:04 I mean, she is an older gal. I remember he Maybe not as good as it used to be leave her alone Taylor. She's a victim Hmm. Okay a very rich So they had to give 15 million to Trump's charity, which I suspect is just to give 15 million to Trump Maybe I maybe you're right. But yeah, yeah, so anyway, because Trump, like no one's really sure. She was like, I'm not sure if his penis was in me or not, but definitely fingers he's a sexual assault
Starting point is 02:44:37 or not a rapist, and that's why he had- Or maybe sexual abuse or sexual battery. It was one of those. And I feel like at this point it's important to get it right I remember him saying he was interviewing that that pretty Republican congresswoman who who wanted to keep the trans person out of her bathroom on Capitol Hill whatever her name is he was interviewing her and he was like how can you support one who's been found legally. Helpful of rape and she's Nancy Mase. She's pretty. She's 40 late forties and she's the one who was the trans person.
Starting point is 02:45:12 No, not, not, not, not now. I don't know her name. I don't, I don't know her fucking name. Um, but it was her, that was the scenario, but yeah, that's a win. You, you, I'd love to be in the room with him when he gets the news. I, I just want to see what, like, what's his reaction to that is he looks like, yeah, that's a win. You, I'd love to be in the room with him when he gets the news. I just want to see what, like what's his reaction to that? Is he just like, yeah, fucking got him, fucking got him. Does he have to publicly apologize?
Starting point is 02:45:32 Are we talking text or does he have to say the words? Like I want to see like what's his reaction to that? Did you see the apology? I haven't seen it. Do you do it yet? Oh, I don't, I have no idea. I would imagine he just like tweeted out like, and something. I don't know. Is he idea. I would imagine he just like tweeted out like, and I don't know.
Starting point is 02:45:49 Is he the only guy that is being forced to apologize? Well, he was sued and ABC was sued, I think, as far as I know, whatever network and you know, this just happened where they this was settled. And now it looks like Trump shutting the government down. So there was this. All right, so here's my take on it. I'm gonna try to do this unbiased. At the moment, for another like 30 days, the Democrats have the Senate and the executive branch, but not the House. So the budget bill they put together for right now is, it's seemingly Democrat friendly. Like it has more stuff they want, but some of the stuff the Republicans want. And that's because all the Republicans have is a very slim house majority,
Starting point is 02:46:29 which isn't the strongest negotiating standpoint. Well, Elon Musk saw this bill and didn't like it. So he tweeted out that it'd be better to shut the government down until they go into power. And Trump wants something similar. He may want the debt limit raised under Biden so that he doesn't have to deal with that shit. Like pin that on the other guy.
Starting point is 02:46:53 Don't raise the debt limit on me. I don't wanna be the guy that signs it. Do it before I get there. So we will see whether they choose to shut the government down or do this bill end a debt ceiling limit that would have otherwise not come due until like June. The June part is fuzzy, but it's something close to that.
Starting point is 02:47:13 And in America, we have this terrible system where first we authorize what we're gonna spend and then we authorize the ability to like mint that money. And they're two different things. And people are happy to like authorize the spending but usually they fight about the debt limit and Trump is like let's just do that fight before I take office so as though it doesn't like paint me in a negative way. We're watching to see how it plays out.
Starting point is 02:47:37 I hope I did that unbiased. Yeah, you probably did. The two things that I thought were notable was it was a 1500 page bill and it includes a pay raise for Congress. Those are obviously the things that I thought were notable was it was a 1500 page bill and it includes a pay raise for Congress. Those are obviously the things that I take issue with. It's like how do you feel about the Paris because I'm okay with it but my mind is open. I think they deserve a cut like why would they get a raise? Why would they get a raise? Why don't we multiply it by five and make it illegal for them to own any stocks or do any trading? Oh, okay, that actually ties into my take on it.
Starting point is 02:48:06 That's an interesting thought. Because I think if you criminally underpay people who could otherwise make a lot more, just as a hypothetical, I'm not saying they are, then you're really just almost mandating them to be dirty, blackmailable. If you're a congressman, then you are rubbing elbows with people who make a million dollars a year all the time.
Starting point is 02:48:27 And if you're at 175, well, I'm not gonna call 175 broke. These are people who could all make more somewhere else. They haven't had a raise for 20 years, almost it's like what 18 years, something close to that. And they're trying to change it from 175 to 225, which I don't know, somehow that feels like in the same ballpark to me, but it's also, is it 40% more?
Starting point is 02:48:49 It's incalculable. So anyway, yeah, they wanna go from 175 to 225. Neither of those numbers seem wildly overpaid for some, for like a position of that stature to me. Look at their approval rating. Look at what their boss thinks of them, the taxpayer. You know what I mean? Like this is the employee that needs more money.
Starting point is 02:49:08 Like maybe we need to flush out people. Maybe they were the voting people. They need a bonus system. A bonus system for passing bills? Well I was thinking more like you only get paid when the budget's balanced or like that. You know like. Whose idea was that to fire them? Maybe Mark Cuban or somebody, he's like, tell it, you know,
Starting point is 02:49:28 that they're, they lose their jobs if the, if the budget isn't balanced that year or something like that. I'm sure it's been said before me. What if we include a stipend that they get that's smaller and also they are forbidden from taking any job in the private sector for 10 years after they leave office. And that would prevent this shit where they do favorable legislation for companies like Boeing or Raytheon or Lockheed Martin,
Starting point is 02:49:56 and then immediately go from head of the Foreign Affairs Committee to on the board of those organizations. It's just a display. They shouldn't take any private sector jobs on something they have oversight over as a politician. They wait until afterward and then they go. And so they basically- I know, that's what I'm saying. You disallow that. You make it put five years on it, put 10 years on it. Or spouses.
Starting point is 02:50:19 Yeah, yes. Good addendum there, Wendegun. Yeah, just do that for like 10 years and pay them enough that it makes sense that you would still get intelligent people, but also fully make it illegal that they can trade stocks. I don't know if it really... Think of how fucking insane that is, that these people can make decisions that they know before even large trading firms know are going to impact the price of stocks and then they make boatloads.
Starting point is 02:50:49 It's worse than that. They know they're going to move the market and so they react before they move the market. It's as corrupt as it gets. When you look at Nancy Pelosi being, what is her fortune up to now? Is it 200 million or something crazy? She's not the world's greatest investor. I'm glad she fell and broke her hip. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 02:51:10 Did she fall and get fucked up? Yeah, a little whoopsie day so you don't come back from those at age. You didn't hear that? She did fall and break her hip. Didn't her husband get murdered? No, he just got hammered up a little. Yeah, he was intact.
Starting point is 02:51:21 That's right. But yeah, probably everybody knows. But when you break your hip as an elderly person like that, some huge number die in the next like six to 12 months. Like it is semi fatal. Apparently it's like one of the most easy surgeries. I think more than other surgeries, it's apt to get infected. And that's just combined with like, it's an old person too.
Starting point is 02:51:47 Like young people aren't getting full hip lifts. I thought it had something to do with the recovery, like being bedridden for that long. Had the surgery. Tanks it. I don't know, but I do know that, I mean, there is a correlation that is super strong. Dude, I saw like, I've seen videos of replacement
Starting point is 02:52:04 and like ortho surgeries online and genuinely it feels like Dr. Nick from the Simpsons. Like that's how brute, like there will be a rod in someone's leg and some doctor has taken a hammer, just smacking the rod out or into the leg orthopedic surgery. Yeah. Just brew. And like, I'm watching and I'm like, Oh, you went to school for this? Like I could swing a hammer. Now granted, the rest
Starting point is 02:52:31 of it seems pretty complicated, but the hammer part, you know, the hammer that makes all the difference. He's got to have the correct form. Don't worry, sir. We removed your femur. Yeah. And then afterward they're like being incredibly sore as part of the surgery and it's like but does it have to be you're going balls to the wall with a claw hammer in there knocking this this metal rod into someone's knee. I wonder what uh I wonder what AOC thought when she heard that because I just know they hate each other. I know she wants those oversight positions and the old AOC wants to have the biggest hits in Congress and she's happy. She's on the breast envy subreddit.
Starting point is 02:53:13 They took down her sexy subreddit. I was, I was. Did they? Oh yeah. A while ago. It's been months now. I don't know if breast envy is still a subreddit, but like I can tell who I am because I'm always like the smaller ones are better. Like in every case on that's. All right. Let's do a little, let's do a little research. Let me see. I don't know how old the subreddit is. Smaller ones are better said no one ever. Yeah. A lot of gay guys think that women's tits that they like the small dudes. Look at the top one right now. It's called roommate envy. Stand by. Yeah. And tell me that are you on team big or team small? With just the first post I saw.
Starting point is 02:53:56 Team big. I'm over 18. Team big? Okay, Kyle. Wendy? Say that again. I was reading a manifesto. We're looking at tits. No, no, you have to click the link and then go to press. I apologize for getting game. Hold my hand. I think you're trying to talk with. Yeah. Okay. So what do I do here? It's called like college envy or roommate envy. It's the girls I see bigger than her head. Roommate envy. Here we go. Roommate envy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, are we guessing?
Starting point is 02:54:37 We are no, no, we're choosing a preference. So you team bigger team, small, small. I'm not alone. I thought for sure. I was going to be on an antsy. Yeah. Can we do a quick head count of who here's married? That's what I thought for sure I was going to be on this island by myself. Yeah, can we do a quick head count of who here is married? That's what I thought anyway. Yeah, but that just means more to the topic. You just lost your own argument. What are you talking about? Smart people don't get married.
Starting point is 02:54:57 Kyle, will you team bigger or team small? Dude, I'm team big on that one. Them some big old titties. Hell yeah, brother. I was all about that. Like that other girl, I couldn't evenies. Hell yeah brother. I was all about that. Like that other girl, I couldn't even see what was going on over there at all. There could be nothing there. That could be a boy. I think that was a trans woman. That could have been one of those videos
Starting point is 02:55:14 where like she was wearing a bear suit dancing in the background and I wouldn't have picked up on it. Go to the next one. Cal girls. Cal girls. I think we're going to get more team smalls on this one. In her head. Cal girls. Okay here we go. Oh wait wait wait. Oh more team smalls on this. In their head cowgirls. Okay. Here we go. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh yeah. Team small, team small. Hold on. Hold on. I did not understand what was happening here. I was like, what did that? Hold on. Well then I need to make sure. I thought you were just asking for like personal preference.
Starting point is 02:55:39 No, you got to pick between. No, we're looking at the pictures. So yeah, between the pictures I thought you meant just in general, like anytime I was like, where did the pictures factor into this? And so you're are you switching to team big for the room? And I'm not. It feels weird. Now I stand by what I said. She seems nice. I like the way this
Starting point is 02:55:58 girl smiles and like moves. She she's a terrorist. I'll have you know. All right, Cal girls, team bigger, team small. I mean, that's one team small, but that's because the the small tick girl is like, far more attractive and every other way more attractive. And not only that, Taylor, look at the belly button that we see from the large gal who is I see a cavern. You can put a golf ball in it.
Starting point is 02:56:20 Looks like fucking my belly button. That leads to why I'm often team small. I feel like it is rare, super rare. Maybe the roommate MV one was different. But if there were really big boobs, that's usually not the only body fat on that body. Let's go top all time, boys. Let's go top all time. Let's go top all time. This content people want. I'm just here as like the chauffeur has no time is not safe for work. Yeah. You just lost. Top all time. That woman. Kyle to fucking King check fucking mate.
Starting point is 02:56:51 What are you? Good God. That's a big girl. Oh my goodness. Oh, oh, well, I'm not a good show topic. We need to find girls. If we could show the girls, that'd be. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:57:02 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know., this is probably not a good show topic. We need to find girls. If we could show the girls, that'd be better. Cause it would make sense. This is literally just a group of guys like, all right, chat, what do we think?
Starting point is 02:57:17 What are we thinking? Big tits? I wish I could share this with the people watching. People watching, like he only won the one where there was a butter face type situation um and and and it's just trust me but look we all get we don't want a patty with big tits but some of these girls are pretty damn fit with enormous tits. I was so confused when we started honestly I look at this one on small. I'm just too small in general.
Starting point is 02:57:46 I thought it was like do you like bigger? Small alright now break into groups for silent reading. Kyle, you guys just do one more. I know we need to move on team bigger, team small on my latest link. OK. I picked this one chat and chat. I'm calling everyone chat because I'm streaming now.
Starting point is 02:58:03 Jet crazy. They're both pretty, but the small ones are a little tighter in the belly and the hips. Nah, team big, bro. Yeah, team big. Wendy? Actually, he's not looking anymore. I'm looking at the picture of the mountains and nature. We are looking at the picture of the mountains too, I bet you are My videos all fucky it's all like chromed out for some reason. Oh, that's dark mode on or something anyway
Starting point is 02:58:38 Okay, I can judge I can judge better now Woody I got dark mode off they looked like chroma Characters for a second. All right. I'm gonna go with the the small one on this one. This month, the, the, she's just much cuter to me. She's kind of got like a Lola bunny cheeks. You know what I mean? I think her package is generally tighter. Like I looked at the crease by her hips. Yeah. I'm with you on that. Yeah. And she's not petite. She's those are still like some big C's. Yeah. Anyway. Well that was fun. You know, you got somewhere to go. Oh no, you don't. You got an hour to kill. So let's talk about titties. We need to accommodate all. Oh, okay. When the good,
Starting point is 02:59:17 I could just sit here and shake my head for Lord made those titties. Okay. No, he did. He did. I feel like there was maybe with some of those, there was maybe a little help from, uh, no, you didn't look at the video then they were those. I feel like those are tits that if you showed that to like some kelp living in the year thousand, he'd be like, guy, that's the most incredible thing I've ever seen. And we have all these hormones, like every day, you're feeding girls hormones in the moment. And it's making me.
Starting point is 02:59:55 On pasteurized male. Oh, now that I disagree with strongly. Like, whenever you see, like I saw a cave painting that's clearly the silhouette and it's bad of a woman, but it's from like 8,000 years ago, 10,000 years ago. And it's a curvy bitch, Taylor. It's a big, it looks like Kim Kardashian if she let herself go. You know, he was fantasizing about that. I doubt there was a bitch that, you know, that thick, it was parading around the camp. They made up an ideal. They saw
Starting point is 03:00:23 it and they, and they wanted it wanted it like it's just like this fertility idols that's just big tits with big old. Those are the only ones that survive because they don't get fucking cracked because they're giant. They had lots of. Have you seen that? Have you seen that old? I think women are there's this there's this sculpture. There's this Indian sculpture that shows a fertility goddess flat belly stacked.
Starting point is 03:00:44 I was like, whoa. How many arms did you have? I wasn't looking at that. I think if we go back like a quarter million years, right? We just need to undo evolution a little bit and I'll get my generation of hairy women that I've always wanted. Bro, you're always going after them
Starting point is 03:01:01 Winona Ryder looking ladies. And it's a weird like one thing to we turn the hair all the way up on my Elden Ring character. Chat was down for they agreed. They they said, Woody, you're on. Is this is this like sensitive hair or is this just like full body like mustache, beard, the whole nine? Like what are we talking to the hair?
Starting point is 03:01:18 It's just like a little bit there on the belly in the back. Hell yeah, Taylor. Do you see that click on the tweet. I just linked this shows some what am I? What am I about? No, no, these are fertility statues from the third century in India. It's not like this is like browsing line wire back in the day. More like he fucked.
Starting point is 03:01:38 Yeah, that one on the right is dope. So look at all these. These are these are actually good fertility models. Good for them. Those are, that's women look like that. Those aren't fantasy women. No! That hip waist ratio is kind of crazy. Number two?
Starting point is 03:01:54 Yeah, Isaiah's right. I can show you pictures of women who look exactly like that. There was a famous- Yes, but they didn't have implants back then. Not pre-Photoshop. Yes, pre-Photoshop. There's a famous like pinup model who, hang on, let me find it. God damn it.
Starting point is 03:02:05 Don't know what the fucking base looked like because McDonald's ruined it for this generation. I was about to show a famous pinup model as an example of not Photoshopping. I'm not sure this is... What are you talking about? What you have on the other hand is someone found a woman so goddamn beautiful, they spent the time to carve her into stone. I think it's pretty equipped. Yeah and they were probably taking some liberties with the stone carving too. Like if you were like drawing your girl or something like that back then and it's
Starting point is 03:02:36 like you look over at her and you're like well I don't want them to you know think poorly of her or anything. Yeah exactly. Number one and three have vulva I just enlarged the picture. Yeah, exactly. Number one and three have vulva. I just enlarged the picture. Yeah, they do. I noticed that. I wasn't going to say anything, but I don't want you to miss out on this experience. Can you imagine an Indian guy in the third century? Like I have stumbled into the most wonderful job. He came running to his group of friends. He was like, guys, friends, you're not going to believe what the palace has me doing. I am looking at the big titty girls and then I am carving them. And then before I handed to the king, I'd jack off on it. Dude, sick.
Starting point is 03:03:21 Big shout out to this guy from 200 AD. Oh, except he can't do faces. Dude, sick. Big shout out to this guy from 200 AD. Oh, except he can't do faces. This is how I imagine I would evolve as an artist. Once again, I have- Bang in it like hips, vulva, boobs, and these women are butter faces. Well, it takes me five hours per statue. The first four hours, 48 minutes
Starting point is 03:03:43 is all of the beautiful titties and vaginas. And then you kind of just throw something together on your face. No one is looking. I mean, really, it's like some guys like, oh, the face looks weird. You're like, okay. All right, homo. Okay. No one's looking at the face. Yeah, but that's great. Good for good for India, because I see those other big fat fertility models. And it's like, don't you know being as fat as those models makes you like unable to even
Starting point is 03:04:13 have kids dummy. Wait, which models the fertility models the giant oafs that are like a billiard ball with like big tits on it. Yeah, the very ugly ones. Not what I'm imagining, man. I was like... Oh, you did a bunch of research on Mr. HP Lovecraft, I see, on one of your videos. What was his cat's name again? I'm a huge Lovecraft fan. I've read a bunch of them books and watched all of them movies.
Starting point is 03:05:08 And I really like there's a few words he invented. What did you just look it up? Yeah. I'm sorry, Kyle. I got excited and interrupt. Oh, no, no, you're good. Wait. So I looked it up and I'm like, oh, AI says the cat's name was
Starting point is 03:05:23 Black Cat, but it was changed to Black Tom. And I'm like, what is the like, I recognize the word black is in it. But but and then they said the name of the cat. Hard are you might call it Nigeria man and but not exactly. And I'm like, oh, wow, damn, he went hard with that. Yeah, he had a lot of things going on with his life. You know, he was a weird dude His mom messed him up really bad. Um, he had like super low self-esteem He thought he was hideous and like didn't want to be seen in public. He had this weird relationship with this domineering woman Yeah He was fiercely agoraphobic
Starting point is 03:06:03 Yeah, he was fiercely agoraphobic. Not until the last few years of his life did he ever come outside that much and interact with people. He had this intense fear of other races too that kind of gleamed off of that because everything he knew about them was through books and stuff. So to him, other ethnic groups were like aliens walking the earth. I think he lived in New York for a short time and he'd seen a lot of immigrants. He'd had a real John rocker reaction He didn't like it didn't like it
Starting point is 03:06:29 And he actually had some of his writings in the last couple years of his life He's like they're not so bad actually and then he dies. So yeah But I've seen void The void. Oh, yeah the movie about the hospital or like that. Yeah, that's such a good movie That's that's my favorite Lovecraftian movie. There's that other one with Sam Neal that that John Carpenter did. I can't think of the name of right now, but I don't like that one as much.
Starting point is 03:06:54 But the void is sick. I love the voice. Dude, Lovecraft is another guy. He died at the age of 46 in 1937. That guy sticks around till 1947. I bet he's, I bet he's saying a lot of other stuff. Ideas real quick. I bet he's
Starting point is 03:07:13 funny how you say that as if right now he's held as like a hero of equality. I just know that like, I don't know 1% what you know about him. I just literally knew his cat's name and that he's responsible for like a lot of the norm in sci-fi and fantasy Not like the same impact or something, but still yeah Yeah, the cosmic or this this this eldritch horror this idea of this old horror That's that's that's that's greater and vaster and completely beyond comprehension is what's at the core of it. The idea of something whose name your tongue can't speak or your eyes can't comprehend.
Starting point is 03:07:53 So you see this instead and the thing that you do see, the thing your brain can process cripples your mind and turns you into something else. I really like- It's really hard to be impossible. Yeah. Yeah. Color out of space. Color out of space, yeah. It I really like possible. Yeah. Yeah color out of space color space. Yep It's just a color. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's you know, it's a it's a color that isn't sort of incomprehensible turns out It's just like I feel like the movie kind of sucks
Starting point is 03:08:16 Because when you watch the movie, it's like it's the color purple. Yeah It's like a little bit of purple with a little gold in the background or something But uh, that's it. I like nicolas cage, especially his bad movies So color out of space was cool to me when he starts hacking up those monsters Or when the goats are all mutated and shit Yeah, yeah And you got like, uh, I don't know if it's cheat or chong probably Cheech then you got cheech out there in the woods. That was a neat little movie
Starting point is 03:08:45 but yeah probably she each thing get she each out there in the woods. That was a neat little movie. But yeah, I like it. But yeah, I I really like the the cosmic horror in anything. I'm always looking for something that has that sort of Lovecraftian twist to it. Something new. There was that movie. Who's the girl from Twilight? Or Stewart, Kirsten, Kirsten Stewart or whatever. She had that movie Underwater. That was cool.
Starting point is 03:09:10 It's about an underwater mining station. And the movie begins with the mining station having a major disaster. So you don't even get to warm up to the characters. It's just like first thing, disaster. We're sinking, we're drowning. Get into your safe suits. We're working on our survival right now immediately And you meet like five or six characters and they're basically moving around and in the deep ocean and they're just like there's monsters down there
Starting point is 03:09:34 Spoiler, there's some fucking monsters down there and it's sketchy Yeah, it's really cool team smart, yeah, oh now that look there's a flat e I can get behind. Okay, that's a Okay at the end of the day you have to look at the whole package You have to that's why team small does so well for me. It's just so rare that team large Oh really Anna Nicole Smith, right? Like oh, that's a terrible one to pull I get it. I get now uncheated. We're back to Tim. Crime Anna Nicole Smith still loses.
Starting point is 03:10:10 Time is a flat circle. Well, of course, she's borderline retarded. She's those tits are fake, I think. And she that sentence is wild. Borderline retarded and the tits are fake. Your honor. Yeah, justending that. Yeah. In other news, Kyle, have you heard of a prank called the hot foot in baseball?
Starting point is 03:10:35 Yeah, you're gonna like, you're gonna put something in their shoe and set it on fire, right? It looks like a bunch of Dodgers players wrapped a bunch of matches together and then stuck it with like gum on the back of a Dodgers player who was like not paying attention and then they light it and then it like hopefully doesn't ignite your polyester uniform and then kill you at the Dodgers game. But I do that is funny with baseball is like they have like baseball style pranks because so little is going on. Like like watch, watch the NHL or the NFL. Yeah, or at least like, you know, include the NFL starters. Like those guys on the sidelines are pretty locked in.
Starting point is 03:11:16 They're like, all right, you know, I'm following the game. Baseball. These guys are futzing around. Look at that. I saw a post. They were up six, nothing on the cards. OK. Well, I guess they canzing around. Look at that. I saw a, a post. They were up six, nothing on the cards. Okay. Well, I guess they can move around. I saw a post one time that was like, um, that people were arguing over like what athlete is like the best athlete. And so it was like, baseball is like the strongest athletes because they have to run, hit muscle, cardio, or blah, blah, blah, whatever. And someone just replied and said, if you're bored, you can eat in the dugout. It's like, it's not even close.
Starting point is 03:11:54 Like it would be much easier for like a professional football player or it would be easier for an NFL player to go play an MLB than it would be vice versa. I just want to say, I haven't been paying attention to chat and I just look over Message from Kyle r slash Alexandra D'Addario r message from Kyle r slash Sydney Sweeney Women big tidditt then wasted women. We've got no courses not been wasted. We'll have it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You know what? No, I'm not stooping down to your level. Do it. Come on down in the cube of E. What was it it? Why is that like if we're talking about like? Just babe. I can't believe I'm saying this if we're talking just based off like size of stuff You would really put Alexandra to Dario up why not as an example. She said
Starting point is 03:12:58 Many I get Kate Upton, but she's like I wouldn't I wouldn't consider that poster boy for Like the dirt. I think I think she's pretty fit and I think she's got gigantic tits and not only that She's like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't consider that poster boy for like the your team. I think she's pretty fit and I think she's got gigantic tits and not only that she has maintained that for almost a decade. Now, would he called her pre fat season one of true detective? Look, look, look, I'm not going to say, I just want to clear my name. I was wrong, but we're talking about Kate Upton.
Starting point is 03:13:23 I think she's the one I called pre.fat. You called them both pre-fat. We do this a lot. Maybe I do. I'm not saying she's not attractive. That's not what I'm not saying. I'm saying that she doesn't seem like a spokesperson for your camp. I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 03:13:37 Find one of these bikini photos. I think she's like... I'm with him actually. I'm gonna post a photo that Wendy, you won't want to see this one. And she's not team small, but she's not team big either. Use mine instead. She's just team medium, which is, you know, perhaps the ultimate winner in this. No, she has big tits. She's laying on her back right there and they still look big.
Starting point is 03:14:05 They're enormous. They're enormous. You can show my picture. My picture is in the bikini. Where did I put that Bible? Yeah, show Kyle's picture at the pool. Alex at the pool. I need to repress her. She's definitely not Team Small. I don't mean to pretend that. And she's even maybe at She's definitely not team small. I don't mean to pretend that. And she's even, you know, maybe at the high medium. But this is the part of the show. And by the way, people online, damn, I struggle to believe any pictures.
Starting point is 03:14:36 I see now. There's only five people online because all three of us. This is just not a representative of Team Big, I don't think. I mean if you're talking about the other guy who holds the flag in the in the. Those aren't big titties to you I'm not sure what the argument is. I'm not even arguing about her. Those are like double V's or tiles. Those are big titties.
Starting point is 03:14:58 That's hypocrisy. That's all I'm saying. Those titties weigh pounds each. Those are big titties and I won't hear anything to the contrary. What's the measurement for, what's the unit of measurement for titties? Baby heads, how many baby heads? It's a unit of volume.
Starting point is 03:15:15 They can clap with them, they're big. There you go. Zach says that can't be team tiny. That is a fucking insincere argument. No one said they were team. What straw man is that you're going to? Who are you arguing with? I'm not I'm not even in this argument, but that is an absurd point to take.
Starting point is 03:15:35 Yeah, I'm using facts and logic, dude. I want to go argue with a 19 year old college student about the size of the dance. Like I'm like I'm a Steven Crowder at a table that's like, change my mind. And people are like, I want to argue about Palestine. And I'm like, we'll get to it. And then they end up tipped pictures, have a spirited debate.
Starting point is 03:15:55 Yeah. As a strategy, that was great. But I really detest the whole change. Like, oh, we're going to determine this argument as to whether or not I admit you changed my mind. I'm undefeated. Like, I just, Oh, but my mind wasn't changed. It's like, hey, what? I'm going to say, I don't know. I'm not making any comment about her physical appearance. I will
Starting point is 03:16:17 say she was phenomenal in season one of True Detective. Oh yeah. That's what we're referencing. Is that show still worth watching? I heard season four was good, but after one I can't do anything. I can show you the seasons to watch. I think I stopped at two, because I got like halfway through and it's like, this isn't nearly as good.
Starting point is 03:16:33 Yeah, that season's not good. And the most recent season isn't very good, but Jodie Foster I hear. But there's a couple seasons. Season one, I saw someone making the argument the other day that season one of True Detective is the best season one of anything ever. And it might be. I go. Yeah. Because you go back to season one of like Soprano. I don't think maybe Game of Thrones. But but I don't know. I haven't watched
Starting point is 03:16:54 it in a while. But like season one of Sopranos is pretty weak. These seasons. Honestly, like, I can't really say if we treat season one of True Detective as its own show, because it's an anthology, you know, season might as well be. I honestly can't think of a lot of shows that beat it. Maybe if like you look at the breath of like the sopranos stuff or like Fargo or something like that. But has the dad beating up the bully's dad. That's two or three, right? No, no, no, no. That's no way he's talking about with the Colin Farrell. Yeah. Oh, Colin Farrell's in season two. Yeah, that was one of the best scenes in all of television. That scene is good.
Starting point is 03:17:35 Where's the fucking LeBron's fucking LeBron's? Where are they? It's like, it's like some kid. What are they doing? They fucking shit on them. What? They caught him up. I don't know. Kid shit. They caught up to LeBron. And then next thing you know, he's like smoking a joint in his police car on the phone on the radio with dispatch tracking this kid's dad down.
Starting point is 03:17:57 And then he throws it out the window and starts driving into the darkness. You're like, where is this headed? Oh, my God. I like to in a police dad's house. I like when we want to relive it through Kyle's retelling. Did you like when Matthew McConaughey would like say something kind of unhinged and then you'd see Woody Harrelson like in the car, like look over at him. Like you're, you're a crazy person, but you're very good at finding things. That scene Kyle was talking about, he knocks up on the door and he wants to talk to the kid and the dad sort of stands in between them and says that, you know, he's like, listen, you want you to talk to me.
Starting point is 03:18:34 He puts on brass knuckles and beats the shit out of that dad. And it is a ruthless pounding. The dad is on the ground and he is just ground and pounding this dad. There's blood all over the front porch. The kid is like, stop, stop, stop. Like, what's the matter? Thought you got off on this fucking shit, right? Cause the kid's a bully too, but like being the bully,
Starting point is 03:18:57 he doesn't like watching his dad get bullied. And he's like, if you mess with my son, I forget the phrasing, you know, one more time, I'm gonna come back here and fuck your mom with your dad's head or something close to that. Yeah, and it's like, now that kid's parents safety is his choice. And I like the anti-bully storylines.
Starting point is 03:19:22 It's right there with Thor arriving in Wakanda. I sent you that video the other day. Did you like the one? It's the Elder Scroll. I think it's the Elder Scroll. I wrote you and you must not have saw it on WhatsApp. I did. Okay.
Starting point is 03:19:36 It's like the Elder Scrolls. It's a commercial from like six years ago maybe, but it's the Elder Scrolls Night fight against like three different characters or something like that. And they did this great fight on a rooftop, but it was set to holding out for a hero. Yeah, that was a great edit. I've been watching a bunch of those lately. It's sort of that meme where it's like women want to die quietly and peacefully in their sleep. Men want to die on the other hand.
Starting point is 03:20:02 And it's like scenes for last holdout scenes from movies and like like triumphant moments like like The the saving the day the rohiram showing up tight moments and but it's set to like, you know Inspirational poppy music. It's real fun. I've been watching this all week a lot of a lot of Warhammer shit I had that's what are you crying the other day on the Warhammer edit. Fucking guy jumps out of the- I mean, that might not be true. He was wiping his beard, he was like,
Starting point is 03:20:32 yeah, it was good, man. It was actually on PKN. So it's not that exciting. I mean, you never know. That stuff makes me cry. It really, I get really inspired by that. And it, something about it. I cry every time.
Starting point is 03:20:49 What kind of content gets you emotional? Wendy, when you're watching. I'm with Kyle Mendean in battle. Sacrifice content always gets me like, anyway, like sacrifice for like a spouse, sacrifice for like a platoon or something like that. The whole like go on and leave me thing gets me every time. What if they win?
Starting point is 03:21:08 What if it's like, so I like just as much as sacrifice content, like I'm pinned down, I'm having a problem. I can't seem to solve this myself. And then fucking when Dagoon shows up cresting the hill. Right. Like that also. Like, oh, Windigoon shows up cresting the hill right like that also Last moment save kind of thing right? Yeah, yeah the Savior moment so to speak if the other ends the sacrifice Yeah, yeah, yeah, it goes very hard. This you know, it makes me emotional is like those videos of people rehabilitating dogs that have been abused or like animals or like reunited pets.
Starting point is 03:21:49 I love those. Those are some hacksaw ridge. Yeah, the scene you sent me. Yeah, that's it. One this scene right here in hacksaw ridge. First of all, I saw an editor hacksaw ridge this morning that made me cry. It was that so it was that it's that song from Madonna that's been remixed into a choir version that they
Starting point is 03:22:05 used in Wolverine and Deadpool. They're playing that while he's getting just bullied the whole movie and then at the end of course he's saving everybody. But this scene right here after they've treated him like shit the whole movie they're like why aren't the men going up that wall? And he's like they won't go up the wall till he prays for him. Nobody will move until he prays. That whole movie got me like- Because they'd seen what he did the day before. When he's crawling around in the night and he keeps praying like just one more, let me get one more. Like, oh, oh, that gets me.
Starting point is 03:22:38 That was a very good movie. I watched that today. The only thing I didn't like is when I think his name is Vince Vaughn is sitting on a blanket getting safety while he's shooting impotently with this what seems like an undersized machine gun of some I don't know my guns like you but I know that if I'm a Hollywood director I'm like what is he doing with this pea shooter get this guy a military weapon I've had something like that. He would he would he would have had a Thompson assigned to him but uh that's what he was using I don't know my memory tells me it was like a grease gun looking thing which would be an even cheaper sub machine gun uh well that would make
Starting point is 03:23:20 sense because it was in the pacific and uh typically grease guns were usually issued to the Pacific, I think, because they got all the old stuff. They rated Guadalcanal before they were issued in one grants. They were still using Springfields at the time, which is absurd. Yeah, that's wild. You say you're signing that movie, Taylor? I have. I remember really liking it a lot. And then I just checked. Makes sense. It's a Gibson original. You got Mel on the case. You're going to get a movie. Gibson. Yes, I pull the heartstrings.
Starting point is 03:23:49 Patriot. Lately, I don't know. I saw this funny video of him getting pulled over that I think was pretty. He made a Santa Claus movie a couple of years ago that was kind of funny, tongue in cheek, where he was like a badass Santa and our boy Walton. didn't like it that much I don't
Starting point is 03:24:07 think but Walton Goggins is there to assassinate him because he didn't get a gift as a child he's held it against Santa his whole life and Walton Goggins has there's this moment where he's like I'm here for you fat man and Santa yells back you think you're the first yeah it was like, oh shit. What am I watching? Yeah. It was fun. It's funny. Somehow I don't think it was a bad movie, but it also, it just didn't hit my personal bullseye.
Starting point is 03:24:31 Yeah. But someone else could like it. It was a good idea. I mean, Mel Gibson is making a movie right now called Flight Risk with Marky Mark. And it- The funky box. Based on this screenshot, Marky Mark has like a Costanza shaved into his head
Starting point is 03:24:45 Oh, let's see what this is about a US Marshal boards a small plane to transfer a government witness to New York as they cross The Alaskan wilderness tensions start to rise as not everyone on the flight is who they appear to be Dracking mark has male-polling patterned ball into his head It looks like it based on this picture and it also has. Can you link it? Yes. I only ask because Marky Mark is like, he's one of those attractive Hollywood people whose careers half based on being some sort of thirst trap
Starting point is 03:25:17 in every film. Good, let me see if this works. It just pulls up and you can, I don't know. No, I agree. I didn't expect that from him. Okay. It's also, it's got Topher Grace from that 70 show. That's all I know him from.
Starting point is 03:25:35 Zach, can you show this picture? Oh, it's Spider-Man 3. Thank you very much. He's also in Predators. Oh yeah, Spider-Man, he was, no, he was the bad guy in Spider-Man. If I was in the audience, I'd be honest with you. He was the bad guy in Predators too. was the audience. I mean, bad guy in predators too.
Starting point is 03:25:45 All right. So what? Look at that. He is not thirst trapping it for us. Like that's not the hottest version of Marky Marky. They gave him gum disease. Right? I'm catching that now. He's got awesome powers, Steve.
Starting point is 03:26:00 Yeah. They lit for it, I would argue. Like if people don't know, if you do fill lighting, like I would never do on this show, then it kind of like fills in the wrinkles. But if you do overhead lighting exclusively, it magnifies them. You put shadows on every wrinkle and that's what they did in that shot. Ah, yeah. Well, I'll watch a Gibson original.
Starting point is 03:26:24 I'll watch Flight Risk. I won't. That seems like shit. I hope he makes a real movie. I wish he would make something like Apocalypto or or some some big period piece, some war epic. He did that. That is what he's best at. Yeah. What's there was that one Vietnam movie he made like we were soldiers, maybe. It's about the first cavalry division that went to choppers and nom
Starting point is 03:26:45 And it's got him and that mustache man whose names escaping me. That's a tombstone We were sold one part. Oh wait, wait, but mustache man talking about Val Kilmer no or or a Kurt Russell. No the old one. Oh Sam Elliott. Yeah. Yeah there's a part where this Americans been napalm by friendly fire and they go to drag him to safety and the meat comes off his legs when they go to pull him by his feet. And the guy's just like, ah, and of course, the man is like, ah, and there's and the guy who called in the friendly fire is like, oh my God, what have I done to my people? And the serge grabs you, you listen to me, you gonna control you gotta call that keep not keep bringing that fire in You're all that's keeping us alive Well that next one he's like get the next one right you know I mean cuz you dropped my what movies this we were soldiers Oh, I actually haven't seen we were soldiers It's a true story long story short. It's when the cow when we
Starting point is 03:27:42 Started the air cavalry started putting a you know fast response troops in NAMM and choppers and it was the first like division of that and they get attacked by an overwhelmingly large force of Vietnamese like well armed and led and they're kind of surrounded in this Opening valley type area where they'd made their landing and they have to fight it out for a couple days one Detachment gets separated from the main group like maybe like a dozen guys are out on their own in the woods Just barely staying alive just in a circle completely surrounded for days. It's a good story though It's in its hardcore like it's very very violent Gibson does not skip on the the gore
Starting point is 03:28:24 Does Gibson lose that? They do, right? They have to, they get more kills, but they also lose the land. In the end, they evac and sort of leave. And the Vietnamese general has this moment where he comes out and he's like, we won the battle, but I don't know about this war.
Starting point is 03:28:41 Like, this isn't gonna, we can't keep doing it like this. You know what I mean? Like, they definitely kill a shitload more Vietnamese I feel like losers always say that okay we didn't get the land sure but we made them pay dearly for it yeah I guess I'm watching the Ukraine war so much and they say that it's kind of like it's called losing guys Vietnam's a weird scenario right because we were not directly fighting the Vietnamese army We were fighting like we were fighting Vietcong soldiers when we were fighting Russian assets and stuff like that
Starting point is 03:29:16 So it's like what would victory look like would it look like killing every Vietnamese person in southern Vietnam and Laos and Cambodia and stuff? It's like what quantifies victory you can say the same thing about Afghanistan, right? Like, what would winning the Afghanistan war even look like? Like, what would that mean? There was no like, yeah, it's like we're over there. We're attacking insurgents. It's like, yeah, what's what's the goal? If we kill every person in Afghanistan? Well, that's what's the goal if we kill every person in Afghanistan? Well, that's you would have to win Afghanistan like we won the West
Starting point is 03:29:49 That you'd have to do. Yeah colonize it. Yeah And eliminating them you would have to round them up. You can't allow better You're not gonna defeat a better one tribesman and his cousin fucking allies over the mountain ever you know what I mean, because it like okay you you could beat the Taliban maybe but that's that's just what they're calling themselves they'll change their name right we beat al-qaeda then we beat ISIS mostly I guess and now we'll beat the next one too so it's like yeah yeah what what does winning mean right yeah exactly just keep declaring it you know who we're taking out the number three guy that you've never heard of. We get them all the time. Exactly. Yeah. This guy who's really not
Starting point is 03:30:29 important enough to end this, but we got to hang our head on something because it's been a lot of It's interesting because like lateral warfare was always like the other side surrenders or you take their capital. You take their government, right? But when you're fighting like a guerrilla force, it's either the complete extermination of the guerrilla force or whatever force you're fighting like a gorilla force, it's either the complete extermination of the gorilla force or whatever force you're fighting entirely or You just leave eventually. It's like they don't know it seems I feel like al-qaeda and like ISIS or kind of their back foot, right? You don't really hear them in the news cycle. Who just retook Syria. I said that's retook Syria, didn't they? Yeah and Sent Russia leaving with their tail between their legs Yeah Yeah. And sent Russia leaving with their tail between their legs. Yeah. Huh.
Starting point is 03:31:05 So we'll probably see a similar situation in Syria now that we did in Libya. Oh my God. I'm so glad you brought the Syria. Did you see what CNN fucking did? Did you see what CNN fucking did? No. Oh, I do think you're saying that. Oh, Syrian government falls, Al-Assad's out, the evil oppressor, and all the prisoners
Starting point is 03:31:24 are going free, all the political prisoners, these people get to see the sunlight the first time, and I think it's Dana Bash over at CNN, she like, they're like camera in hand, they go in there, and they free this prisoner, he hasn't seen the fucking sunlight, and God knows how long, he's squinting on the outside, he's like, oh thank God, they're like, the government has fallen, you are free, and he's like, oh thank God, are you serious, really, I'm free, and they're like, oh yes, and come on, serious? Really? I'm free. And they're like, oh yes. And like, come on, we're going to get you to the aid station, get you hooked up. And they freed this poor like political prisoner.
Starting point is 03:31:50 And then somebody, I guess, watched CNN and said, ah, that's actually, uh, Al Balin, not a guy. He is the torturer of Lebanon. He he's Al Asad's like left-hand man. Yeah. You freed him like you let him out. Super bad dude. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, not only we free him, we broadcasted it. Now Syria is going into the hands of a much more intense religious error group than it was prior. Assad protected, what is it, the Shia Muslims and the Christians in Syria. And now ISIS or their tangential parties are going to be in charge. I have seen some pretty rough execution videos since after he had overthrown.
Starting point is 03:32:38 Maybe this time will be better. No, no, I think it'll be, I think we saw Gaddafi in Libya. So the rebel group who overthrew Assad is Hayat Tahrir, Tahrir Al-Sham. What's your flag look like? Turkish backed group. I'll tell you if they're good or not. I need to see the flag. Well, it makes sense that it's Turkey because Turkey's been trying to get Syria from what? It's just a journalist having his head sawn off on a flag.
Starting point is 03:33:04 Turkey's been trying to take over Syria for like literally a journalist having his head sawn off. Turkey's been trying to take over Syria for like literally a thousand years. This close. Well, they've before and then they lose like they got it in like 1590 or something. And then it, it didn't pan out. They lost it again. Let's work. If I put like, what do you think the main export of Syria is? Taylor. Like, what do you There? Yes, that did work when to get
Starting point is 03:33:28 their flag apparently. They have oil, they have oil there. But I don't think they don't have like refineries and stuff. Do you think that's cheaty? I don't always go back to oil. Okay, well, then if it's not oil, then um, what are they fucking? What are those? Oh, dates. Maybe it's dates. See, I thought olives maybe. I feel like olives is like more North Mediterranean, like Greece.
Starting point is 03:33:53 It looks like cotton followed by fruits. And I think I'm going to give you no points. Wouldn't have been my guess. And that oil was not on the list. Oh yeah, I was skipping the oil because it's just like it's a Middle Eastern country. So that's always going to be number one. That's got to be their jam. And they're all about oil. So, yeah, to depose another country. So that's a lot of people dying. Pretty cool. Pretty lot of people die. A lot of Christians and Shia Muslims.
Starting point is 03:34:19 That which a lot of extreme sect. I think it's Sunni Sunni is the more extreme. I wanted to say, yeah, a lot of extreme sect. Sue, I think it's Sunni Sunni is the more extreme. I wanted to say, yeah, a lot of Shia Muslims and Christians in the region supported Assad. And then the Sunni Muslims were like, now, bitch, we got to go full caliphate. This is one where. I bet Taylor and I agree. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to go non-interventionist on this one.
Starting point is 03:34:51 Let those guys sort themselves out. Now lead over towards Israel and Ukraine, Woody, let it matriculate. Well, let me ask you. I'm with you on Israel. I agree. I don't want to like tip it dip my toes into Syria But don't you want to still like send those tier one guys over to wipe out any evil fellows?
Starting point is 03:35:09 We know where they live Maybe have the drone strike every now and then blow up a little cafe full of douchebags You know what I mean? You know, it's tempting Kyle, but what if that leads to the next 9-eleven? like And the wedding or two And we angered people. Immediately take back what I said about Sunni. Sunni makes up 90% of the world's Muslim population. Okay, well then he was protecting the Sunni and the Christians. That's what it
Starting point is 03:35:39 is. Then Shia are the extremists. Dude, if they were going to do another 9-11. Yeah, Assad was popular amongst the moderate Muslims in the region as well as the Christians in that region because he was a bulwark against these extremist groups and protected them in cities like, I want to say Damascus. Saddam Hussein. Yeah, yeah, it's the same situation again. So was Gaddafi. Except they're all mad men.
Starting point is 03:36:03 They're all crazy mad men that were previously rational actors. Crazy. I don't think Saddam was a rational actor. Absolutely was. He was acting in a way that he was trying to solidify Iraq's control over their own oil reserves and their own banking. He gassed tens of thousands of villagers and his sons were known for their rape torture fund and their secret police
Starting point is 03:36:25 private secret police i don't think well it was very important oil reserves i don't know what you want very important that was a cool man i have to think that everything's good or bad those people because they were up right there be some nuance to this i mean unironically yes there is there is nuance to geopolitics, but it's easier just to have like a good guy, bad guy. I always thought that he cast his own people. It's a kid, they were starting a civil war. Like by that measure, Abraham Lincoln shot his own people.
Starting point is 03:36:56 Do you remember in 2018 when they said, and this was one of the conspiracies I did on the show in 2018, they said Bashar Al-Assad is during a UN- Is there really something under the Denver airport? Well, it was different. This was a better one. They said in 2018 that Bashar Al-Assad was gassing his own people. And they said he was doing it in the middle of a UN weapons inspection while they were inspecting for a gas attack. And so they're there inspecting and then suddenly a gas attack happens in so they're there inspecting and then suddenly a gas attack happens in a place that's not even vaguely strategically important and wouldn't do anything
Starting point is 03:37:30 other than implicate Assad and cause problems on the global stage. And yeah, my conspiracy back then was that was absurd. Like it was a false flag nonsense. Obviously the leader of this country during a UN inspection desperately does not wanna draw the ire of the UN. He wouldn't do that. There's nothing to gain from it. And so clearly there's been a target on this guy's back for a very long time.
Starting point is 03:37:55 Oh, I thought the conclusion was gonna be they determined that he really did. Oh, no, they never- The NATO did false flag it. No, that'll probably never, never come out. But that's what I cool. You know what? I can imagine like some fucking Delta force guys going in and like, like, all
Starting point is 03:38:11 right, we've got first they have to steal the Russian gas and then they've got to like use it on the Syrians, but make it look like the Syrians did it to themselves. Like that, that would be, that would be a fun little mission to be on. It's a movie. Yeah. What is the one where they stole, is it Firefox? Where they took the plane and flew it away? Fuck yeah, Clint Eastwood.
Starting point is 03:38:30 Yeah, see Clint Eastwood was raised, he was born in the Soviet Union, but his parents immigrated to the US, so he still thinks in the mother tongue. And the plane, the super advanced Firefox plane that he's stealing works with telepathy. So you think to fire the missile, but you have to think in fucking Russian.
Starting point is 03:38:46 So, so he steals the plane and like takes off in it and, uh, and you know, it gets it back to the Americans. It's fun. Little, fun little movie. Fun little romp. It's a documentary. It's a true story. I have heard people say that the hunt for the red October is based on a true story. I I've heard that because the idea is that the idea is that a Soviet nuclear submarine with a new sound baffling propeller technology that the
Starting point is 03:39:14 captain of that vessel, what do you call it when you go over to the other side? Um, go over to the other side on what? From the Soviets to the Americans. Like, like he made a deal with the Americans. Oh, you're a double agent or you're a traitor? No. Well, I mean, technically, yeah. But basically what he did was he gave the vessels to the Americans, to the CIA in exchange for, you know, citizenship and hide me in America, make me an American. And that's what the movie is. But I've heard that like maybe that's true story.
Starting point is 03:39:46 I put it in the chat. It is based on a true story. 1975 mutiny of Soviet destroyer, star of heavily something close. That's interesting. I think to scale the ship to Leningrad to start a new Russian rebels. So I think it's based, I've read that it's based on a Russian nuclear submarine with
Starting point is 03:40:09 an advanced silent baffle technology that was given over to the Americans in like the 80s. And of course the Soviets were chasing it, trying to destroy it, and the Americans were trying to, and I think the idea is and maybe the story is that they faked That it was destroyed that maybe we did so then and then took it It's a story. Maybe a conspiracy theory. It's also a good movie with Who's it fucking? James Bond James Bond
Starting point is 03:40:41 The Scottish on yeah Sean Connerynery. They do a really good job. I'm sure you always watch movies where it's Russians, but they're speaking English. In this movie, they start off speaking Russian, and then they slowly do this thing where they just zoom in on Connery's mouth, and it just changes to English. You're like, oh, okay. All right, I didn't take me out of it. You kind of gave me a little visual cue that, we're gonna go to English now and they do it really quick So they don't so because Connor don't speak fucking Russian So, I know we're already off of this topic but it seems like the the Cheetah is long Islamic group is not explicitly violent either. They're just all nonviolent it's those who practice a kind of outward jihad or like jihadism that
Starting point is 03:41:28 tends to be the ones because jihad can either mean a struggle against oneself and a betterment within Islam or it can mean a attack against those who are non-Islamic attempting to remove Islam from you. So it looks like it's not the Shia either. I've I don't know what. Yeah. Yeah. When you're sitting in America, it's so easy to other everyone who's not like us. Yeah. Okay. Well then a better way to put it then would be moderate, normal Muslims and Christians and then the extremists.
Starting point is 03:41:58 The old, you know what I mean. You know what I mean. The old terrorists. They love terror. Yep. They have, I mean, this is going to be the time that our involvement in the middle East is like gangbusters. Like everything's going to be coming. Oh, you think so? No, no, it's gonna, it's gonna not. It'll continue to just be a money pit. I think already we're increasing the amount of soldiers on the ground we have in Syria, further involving in a fight with ISIS there. We would ever do such a thing. So you think we're going to be doing more fighting in the law? involving in a fight with ISIS there. We would never do such a thing. So you think we're going to be doing more fighting in the law?
Starting point is 03:42:27 I think it'll lead to more. I was meaning like, I was joking that like this was the Middle Eastern conflict that when we involved ourselves, it was going to go smooth as silk and actually work. And it would pay dividends to the American people. But we're on the right track. I'm not sure. Good to me. We're going to ramp up. And I was like, you think because we are ramping up in Syria. I know Trump is in all of our
Starting point is 03:42:48 oh no one thinks he's a hawk at all and I think that his dove tendencies are a little oversold but not completely oversold so we'll see where he lands. Well they're already they already doubled that looks like the number of troops in Syria. I don't look at the last 23 years as a failure. You know what I mean? Like what I know is we haven't had another 9-11. I know we had no more skyscrapers fall and I know that millions of people over there have died and a lot of them were bad. Interesting. No other 9-11. I have I actually have a tiger repelling mailbox. Do you? Yeah. I've never once had a tiger show up ever since I put that. How much? I need a tiger. You think that's an argument? Was that a joke?
Starting point is 03:43:28 I think that you're like doing a causation equals. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. There's an organization of tigers out there whose sworn motto is death to Taylor and death to America. Those evil tigers. No, there aren't. There aren't any tigers after you. Some tigers are evil. They kill those Indians.'t any tigers after some tigers Are you know those? But tigers would do that if they could it's actually fences that stop them You're not some sick free and brothers or tigers in your world
Starting point is 03:43:51 But there are terrorists who want to kill Americans like they'd love it. They'd love it They talk about all the fucking time or at least they use saying that the last 23 years of interventionism in the Middle East is what's preventing 9-eleven is insane if anything we've angered more people than previously imaginable in that region. Oh yeah, you get mad when your terrorist buddies die don't you? The people who live there who aren't terrorists are not pleased with us being there. What are they going to do? I guess get really mad and probably form covert groups where they plan to attack. They better not become terrorists or they'll get what the other people got. What my point is, we've had no big terror attacks, we've killed millions of people and a lot of them were bad.
Starting point is 03:44:30 We are winning by such a degree, I can't even measure it. Two trillion dollars, there's a measure. What price do you put on safety? What price do you put on a 9-11 every couple of days on a state, how about it? We can have a 9-11 every couple of days. Taylor's America. I'll get two quarter million people dying of fentanyl overdoses from our open border. Fentanyl, fentanyl, all those wonderful souls. They were just trying fentanyl, just those go-getters.
Starting point is 03:44:56 Come on, who's fentanyl killing Taylor? People trying to do coke and also drug addicts. And also people who are being dosed unknowingly and how many people die from ricin every year? Because your argument in favor of the interventionism was some promise of safety. I'm saying it's not a promise, I guarantee. 23 years now, no 9-elevens. You know how many people Obama killed alone I think he might have the record for drone strikes for deadly drone strikes Probably he was keeping us fucking safe, and you don't think it made people mad You don't think that was wedding attendees who've got vaporized were mad
Starting point is 03:45:37 But I don't think they had an opinion the thing is you don't do you get as mad as you want don't forget The reason you're mad is because we sent fire from the sky from the other side of the planet with a button because that's who we are. And I love that. I love that. We send death from the sky with a button and you can't even. But if you were you could be Wolverine and it wouldn't fucking matter. We'd melt your ass.
Starting point is 03:45:58 I agree. We disagree. We've got we've got weapons for that. We melt. We melt shit all the time. Can we deal with any terrorism from the middle? The US military could destroy wolverine. Did we deal with
Starting point is 03:46:14 Skeleton and he regenerates from that. That's true the us It's wolverine You should make a wolverine It's Wolverine Ukraine money and said we were making Wolverines, I'd be like sold I'd be like You know two kids injected themselves with with fucking elemental mercury trying to become Wolverine shit We better spend two been to spend $2 trillion to prevent that. It did not work. No. What happened? They, they actually lived.
Starting point is 03:46:54 Apparently you could just inject yourself with a big syringe of mercury and you'll be okay. You know, there's no way it'll make me not a okay, but they, they're fine now. It's going to like get through your blood brain barrier and make you retarded. Nah, they were all right. I mean, they weren't that smart to begin with. They had J. Maybe they were immune.
Starting point is 03:47:10 Maybe that's the truth. Superpowers. Rose dollars is shooting fucking Mercury or something over here. They're already dumb. Dumbs. They wanted to become it's literally what Matt joked about, like becoming a, like creating a superhero by like having sex with a, with a, with a person strong enough or something like no can't become
Starting point is 03:47:25 Wolverine yeah I'd be okay with some Wolverines a project X if you will although as you know that's a Canadian group of super individuals empowered through various means I'm a little worried about our neighbors to the north I see Trudeau getting ran through the ringer by L President Trump a President-elect, a president elect Trump. It seems like Trump invited him down for that little pow wow. And then afterwards he was like, Yeah, it didn't go so well. I think the tariffs are the way so he's getting a lot of pressure back home in Canada. And I think he's up for election next year. I think 2025 is the Canadian. I don't understand how Canadian elections work. But it seems like
Starting point is 03:48:04 he's in hot water and the French guy too. Yeah. Like you see the, the approval ratings for like unpopular American politicians and it'll be like, like Biden will be like 35, like, like that's our 30s and 40s are terrible. Like everybody's like, oh, 32%. This is great.
Starting point is 03:48:21 Like you look at the approval rating of like Trudeau and Macron and it's like eight. It's everybody. I think that's just because like in the United States and I can't speak for Canada because I'm not Canadian, but in the United States, like a bunch of people do not care about who the politician is. There are people who are Democrats and people who are Republican. And until like a candidate executes someone on live television, they may lose part of their base, right? Um, so I think that's why you have like a hard 35% that are not moving.
Starting point is 03:48:56 It makes sense. Yeah. They have like a hundred parties over there. My grand, my grandparents to this day will not vote anything other than Democrat because when they were like back in the sixties, like the Democrats in Kentucky were the ones who were like funding the coal mines. So to this day, they're just like, whichever the blue one is check.
Starting point is 03:49:15 Like, yeah. Yes. They might be on a date on that. I'm not sure the Democrats are still the ones funding the coal mines. No, they don't check. That's how it works. It's just like I don't turn on the news. I close my eyes. That's why advertisers don't waste their time with people over 35.
Starting point is 03:49:33 You can't get them to change shampoo. They decided when they were 21. That's who you're targeting. Exactly. Yeah. Taylor Super Bowl is coming up in a couple of weeks. Your chiefs are the number one seed, of course. They're trying to three feet, trying to go for three Super Bowls. Absolutely they are trying to go. I mean, Philly might be up there.
Starting point is 03:49:54 They're probably number two. I would guess Philly's my number two. But you guys are trying to do something historic. You're trying to win three Super Bowls in a row. Grady failed at it at least once. I think, wait a minute, Bradshaw did something crazy. Bradshaw or somebody else did like two twos. They won like two in a row twice. Someone did. Yeah. But I know three hasn't been done. Like you said.
Starting point is 03:50:20 But three in a row has never been done. So I'm psyched for your boy. The Chiefs one the last two Yeah The Falcons have to win all their games and then the Bucs have to lose one of their next three games For us to get into the playoffs. That's where we are. That's the loser team. We are our quarterback I think it's we have to choose between like 65 million or 38 million of dead money by by by between like 65 million or 38 million of dead money by by by rid of our QB right now. They're benching that guy, Kirk Cousins or whatever his fucking name is. I don't really follow
Starting point is 03:50:50 the shit. And they're putting up a guy who was playing in like Indiana a couple years ago. You know what I mean? So fingers crossed, we win all three of our next three and the Bucks lose one of theirs. We are playing the Panthers and one of them who are just the Buccaneers. Oh, Buccaneers. Oh, sorry. I was like, wait, Bucks, that's a basketball team. What's happening? Yeah, my bad. Well, the Milwaukee Bucks are expected to be blown out by the. They only brought five guys to the field. No one knows what's happening. These guys got a lot of long, thin, breakable limbs. Kaden, I really thought they'd bring helmets.
Starting point is 03:51:26 I looked up NFL power rankings and I haven't been paying much attention to football this year. I'm kind of a basketball guy and I don't know why I'm torturing myself. My team's awful. But the Eagles, number one seed in the New York Times power ranking.
Starting point is 03:51:41 And the Detroit Lions, my other team, I like to have two, number three seed. So this is lions have tremendous year. Here's why I think you've got that number one seed over the Chiefs. I've watched the Chiefs play for six. Really? I they've only lost one game, but it's been close. They lost to the bills and not only that, like I heard some stat in their last game where it was they had they had no one had won as many games and scored so few points. It was some weird stat where they they're scoring very few points, but getting all those wins. And I watched them play maybe the bears or somebody the other day.
Starting point is 03:52:19 And like they were struggling. It was like turnover after turnover. Your boy was throwing interceptions. It didn't look great. It looks like the Brown turnover. Your boy was throwing interceptions. It didn't look great. It looks like they beat the Browns. Kelsey looked frustrated. He's getting a little broccoli thing going on.
Starting point is 03:52:31 He had a pouty face walking around. Broccoli thing is haircut, you mean? Yeah, yeah. Well, he's getting... Yeah, the Chiefs are the only team that's 13 and one. But look at the plus minus on the Chiefs. I don't know what you're looking at is it. But it's a team that should be like nine and seven
Starting point is 03:52:49 or something. Like they have barely scored more than they've been scored against. And they're 13 and one. I wanna say the Atlanta game was close and we're like 500 team. They're all close. They barely win almost every game.
Starting point is 03:53:03 It's been fun to watch. Like I said, I've watched three or four games and every time I'm like I Choose to believe and and and and and when and when your guy keeps coming through for you like that It's like alright, I like these people. So yeah, I'll see your pro Kansas right now. Oh big time I want him to three feet. I like records being broken and I like greats I like living in the age of a great, you know, I'm a little too Young I guess for Tyson to have certainly to have seen him when he was great But I think there was a there was some years there where Tyson was just all right
Starting point is 03:53:37 There's no one even close no one in the world in the sport that you do They're afraid of you Mike. You know what I learned about Mike? So he was raised by that Cus Lamado guy. With a D. D'Amato. D'Amato. Since he was 12 or 13, he was like adopted by, you know that guy was a hypnotist? No, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 03:53:57 You know, he hypnotized Mike from the time he was a young child and told him, you're the greatest, you're invincible, you're impregnable, you can't be touched, they're too slow, you're the greatest, you're invincible, you're impregnable, you can't be touched, they're too slow, you're too strong, you're too fast. He was right though. That's like the worship of Mike Tyson, if he did that to me, I'd just get my ass kicked all the time.
Starting point is 03:54:15 And it'd be one thing if you go, as we as an adult went to like a therapist and they hypnotized us, or hypnotist I should say, even 12 year old kid, like your guardian, your coach is hypnotizing. You know, he's like believing. You can tell a kid magic's real at that age and they'll believe, you know what I mean? So I think that power of suggestion, that power of hypnotism was key to that just mental edge
Starting point is 03:54:35 he had, he looked like a predator in those fights. So yeah, I hope your boy, Three Peets, I'm praying for you, I'm hoping for you. I hope that you get the ultimate freebie and somehow the Falcons make it To win the NFC they get past the eagles. All right, I'm awesome I'm such a big fan of the Chiefs if they win again this year. I'm buying a hat I'm gonna I'm gonna finally rep this and also if they lose. I'm gonna go full bore
Starting point is 03:55:03 Let's go Eagles. Fly Eagles fly. I will do the same thing for the people can't win. Like I always pull for like my friends team because I do that. Yeah. Yeah. I actually it'd be kind of fun if the Eagles and the Chiefs made the Superbowl. And it's not possible. That happened last. Was that last year or two years ago? Two years ago. Yeah. The Chiefs won. Yeah. Yeah. That's I, was that last year or two years ago? Two years ago, yeah, the Chiefs won. Yeah, yeah, that's- I, my, I don't follow sports that much, but Meet Canyon, do you all know Meet Canyon?
Starting point is 03:55:32 Yeah. I'm really good friends with him and he is obsessed with the Chiefs, so I hear about it all the time. So I want him to be sad, so I'm pulling for whatever the other team is. Oh, wow. Well, big shout out to Meat
Starting point is 03:55:45 Canyon. Different kinds of friends. He's a smart guy. I've always said Meat Canyon. I've always talked about him. I've always said Meat Canyon. He's incredibly smart. He's incredibly bright. He makes these cartoons. They disgust me frankly, but they're cool. He makes the deal. Am I the only one that gets female reproductive organs out of Meat Canyon? That's the idea. That's the joke. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I thought I arrived there on an Island by my No, you caught up. You caught on right.
Starting point is 03:56:10 And his other channel name is Papa meat. So that's all kinds of, yeah. All kinds of weird vibes. You know, I just I've seen his videos in a long time, probably at least a year or two, but I remember sending one of his like really upsetting animations to Kyle at one point. And Kyle was just like, Oh, what is this?
Starting point is 03:56:32 Like, he does that constantly. There's always something hurt. He sent me an audio message today that I don't even want. Actually, you know what? I'm on a podcast or not. No one watching this long into it. Anyway, who cares? Right, right? Yeah, whatever you want everybody drop exactly We have a so we have a podcast together and a normal human would be like, hey Are you ready to record soon? And this is instead what he? Right now like a cat I'm purring because I'm happy. Purr. Meow. That sounded like purring. Meow. I'm a good little pussy.
Starting point is 03:57:35 Is it a drug user? I don't care for that, yeah. Yeah, it's like that constantly. He'll do this thing where he'll be like, dude, I've got this awful scratch on my back. Can you take a look at it? And it's him completely naked. Dude, that's just classic crank.
Starting point is 03:57:52 I need that voice to happen. Imagine your wife hearing that voicemail out of context and being like, son of a bitch. It's like you're cheating on me and you're gay. With him. You're gay with him! Yeah, so I need anyone who's not the Chiefs to win. In other words. I'm a enjoy and obviously college football playoffs.
Starting point is 03:58:15 I'm much more psyched about my Georgia Bulldogs number two seed, I think. So we get the bye. I'm looking at this Tennessee, Ohio State game is gonna be fun to watch I'm very excited for that. I'm gonna watch that and and then just watch Georgia when a another fucking national title I hope I'm I'm gonna be real bummed out if they don't I'm not gonna want to talk about it What is their record if they won two of the last three does that sound right? I don't know about here. I don't about that. They lost two games this year. They lost two games this year What is their record? Have they won two of the last three? Does that sound right? I don't know about that. They lost two games this year.
Starting point is 03:58:48 They lost two games this year. But then they beat Texas twice. Who was number one both times, I think. Or number one the first time and number two the second time when they beat them. They've had a real strong schedule. They lost to Alabama and they lost to Ole Miss. I was right though.
Starting point is 03:59:07 They lost last year in Michigan one and then they won two in a row before that. So they have won two in the last three. If they could win three out of four, wow. Yeah, that's like Alabama success. Oh, for sure, for sure. I mean almost. And then, well last year was some horse shit anyway.
Starting point is 03:59:24 You know, like I felt like we had a great team last year. We just got squeezed out now. We got this 12 team playoff We're George is gonna be a top 12 team forever more It's just not I can't see you taking a step back until that that coach quits, you know until carby smart quits I love that coach. I rarely get a shit about a coach I like Tony Dungey back in the day day with the cult was always just so like milk toast I didn't get anything from him, but curvy smart is like Fucking I don't know mugging for the crowd and talking shit like I remember after happening. No one thought we could do it When he won the second national title
Starting point is 04:00:01 He won the second national title into the crowd. He's like one and they go. Yeah, he goes to And he goes and they just melted Coming last year and then we got boxed out. So this year obviously our quarterback is out We are backup quarterback now going into playoffs the boys seem like they're not even mipped about that they don't they seem like that's not even a mental issue whatsoever That guy that kid did play okay in the last half of the the game the other day when he when they beat, Texas He played okay, especially for have only he I think he got like 15 snaps all year or something
Starting point is 04:00:40 So rookie QB leading us into the college football playoffs with your see Probably sophomore but they do so much weird shit with like red shirting and and you see you never he could be 27 Now that kids are getting paid in college like yeah I would not be surprised you start seeing more like 25 27 year olds playing the game Mm-hmm. Yeah, the guy who was winning for Georgia like three years ago is like my age He was 40. No. Now he was he was he was like 25 or something like
Starting point is 04:01:16 QB and went into the women title. I like that shit. I don't care. That guy had a crazy story where he worked his way up from like junior college or something. He just believed and and grinded his way till he was a national champion. I don't know if I care. I do feel like it's a league where like 18 year olds
Starting point is 04:01:32 is supposed to be playing. And if you're literally a 25 year old guy and like the prime of your career beating up on teenagers and like is that college football? Maybe it is. He's eligible, he's a Bobby Boushey type situation. You know, that was the situation with the water boy. He was like 35 when he was playing but but he was he was you know, he was eligible. Yeah, Adam Sandler
Starting point is 04:01:54 rules. Well, anyway, I mean, that's the law. You guys want to call it a show. We have to. I think we should. He said five hours tonight. No, I didn't. To keep it going for another second, I got curious while we were talking about Luigi and looked it up. Apparently interest in the Unabomber has gone way up since this whole thing happened and his man, his comment on the manifesto. So I'm like, I wonder how my video is doing. Cause I did a video about the Unabomber last year. Since the shooting, it has more than tripled.
Starting point is 04:02:27 It's like 2000 a day to like eight to 12,000 a day. So you know what, Luigi, I misread him. Maybe. Then he's good by me. Very cool. Well, check out Wendigoon. Links in the description. Are we ready to wrap? Yes, sir. PKA 731.

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