Painkiller Already - PKA 735 W/ Vinwiki: Kyle The Dino Denier

Episode Date: January 18, 2025

PKA 735, I think our guest Ed is joining halfway through. Taylor? This episode of PKA is brought to you by Bluechew, Lock and Load, and our wonderful merchandise. Check all that out below. Kyle, you were chomping at the bit. Yes. To do a little chatting about some stolen valor issues.

Stolen valor, it's stolen valor, and it's even worse than that. Like, we say this all the time. Whenever someone's bullshitting about something, and you're not sure if they're bullshitting But then they like dip their toe in your wheelhouse and you're like, oh I wonder if you bullshit about when you talk about coding and when you talk about Spaceships and when you talk about electric cars and drilling holes to the center of the earth Because you just mentioned some gun shit and that's my wheelhouse and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bro

uh, and that's what thehouse and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bro And that's what the Elon Musk has been doing like For the last couple months I guess now like going back to the Joe Rogan experience where he bragged about being a top Diablo 4 player not just a top player but like like the number one in score player in the world and Diablo 4 they are not played a good bit of Diablo 4. It's it's It was fine. But like, there's no way he's the number one player or even the number one thousand player in the world.

What you understand is like games like that are just grindy, grindy, grindy, trying to get good drops and then upgrading gear and then farm and farm and farm. They're grindy game. So I was I was like, I don't know about this, Elon, when he said that. And then the path of exile two stuff happened where he's, he's claiming that he's like the number one path of exile two player in the world. Path of exile two is like a better Diablo four.

So I kind of- Do you know this game? Very much I don't. So when I look at it, I know enough about Diablo that I recognize the same mechanics and stuff. and I recognize, you know, basic RPG elements, you know with the gear drops and such and you know, I watch some refresher videos scum is an expert at the game He's like a I bet scum could wipe the floor with Elon Musk. He's no he Elon says he is scum is what well, maybe not even that because here's the thing about what Elon Musk says

He is he says that he is a guy This game has been out for a few months. We call it three, maybe even a little bit less. Or like I should say, I guess maybe just the hardcore season is like two or three months old. Like maybe that's it. In any case, he would have had to have been playing every waking hour at the highest possible level to achieve the score that he has. And someone did like like like make no mistake. It's a guy who plays on Hong Kong servers, though. It's a guy who speaks Chinese. And that's all confirmed because there's in-game stuff.

There's an in-game like auto translator when you're doing like like you can sell and buy in-game items from other people, just like in Tarkov, how there's a flea market. I think there's a similar situation in this game. And when you write Elon Musk a message, for some reason it pops up in Chinese because the person who's normally on that account is in Hong Kong servers and he's receiving messages in Chinese because there's a Chinese guy who's a badass that Elon Musk has paid to like rank this account.

No one's ripping on that guy. You know, he's nobody. He's pretty good at these. Chang is the fucking man. He's nobody he's saying is the fucking man he's bringing that fucking man so it's like to anybody who games it's like oh fake fake and the worst part is it's not like he said he was a tough guy because if he was like yeah i'm looking black belt and jujitsu then maybe some person who's not into fighting would be like ah that's cool. But this is gaming. Oh my god, this is a black belt too. Yeah, but this is gaming, so he's not impressing anyone. He's not impressing anyone.

You should note here that Kyle has unique experience here because he has also paid someone to play a game for him in order to get to the highest score. Absolutely I have. In geometry wars. Absolutely I have. I bet I paid a whole lot less than Elon Musk did. See what I did was the fuck the hutch though.

Of course it was done here is like pull the wool over the eyes of anyone in the world and be like, I am a top gaming master in the world, along with all the other things I claim to be. And all it's doing is bragging about the smallest penis, bro, being the top gamer in the world. doesn't get you laid Elon your money will do that just fine what if he's like he's like getting pussy and he's like yes this is because of path to exile it's like no it's because you're worth 500 billion dollars they're impressed so of course everyone who plays path to exile all the streamers especially are just running just fucking

with him just showing him him live streaming game, showing every mistake he makes, showing everything that he does that doesn't make any sense. Cause when you play a game like that at the highest level, like we've all grinded games, the way you play Elden Ring, for example, that's grinding at the highest level. I bet you navigate the menus, the settings, the maps. Like when you start the game over, I bet you're so lickety split going through those initial

stages and steps. And you no right where to go. Navigate the menus while I'm running in places in the horse. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Remember, it's like a real rage quitter startup. Get out of that game immediately. Or those of us who played like GTA four back in the day. So religiously, we remember the R1, R2, R2, like the, like I know those codes still. When you play a game that much for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of hours, you memorize that shit

and you become smooth and slick with it. The same way one of those Japanese tuna artisans does, the way that the one that were slicing up, you become that guy for nerdy shit. But Elon Musk ain't that guy when you watch him play. He's the guy who's like, oh, you've played before, but you're not the best. Just to add to what you're saying, Kyle, he was running past valuable loot items, you know, a legendary orange tower or something.

Then you're like, oh my God, like the legend, that's legendary. You got to pick it up. He doesn't know that, which is a very core thing that anyone who actually plays them. Yeah, there's a lot of Diablo career also, where I saw a clip on Twitter, this is months and months ago at this point before this was big. And there were like Diablo fans being like, hey, get a load of like, Elon's equipped abilities with this class. This doesn't make any fucking sense. Like one of these doesn't even work with the other. It's like, you can't get both of them. He played Elden Ring. And I don't mean to interrupt the flow of the story.

No, no, you're good. But it is so bad. It has spawned a genre of YouTube videos. Can I beat Elden Ring with Elon Musk's build? Right, because it's awful. It's a challenge run. He heavy rolls, which will mean something to 3% of you. He's awful. It's a challenge run. Every heavy rolls, which will mean something to 3% of you.

He's awful, super bad. Well, from what I understand, it's the opposite with his path of exile character. Someone was describing just how rare and powerful his gear was, cause I don't play the game, but I've played games so similar that I get it. And the attributes on his weapons, and he's like, these are all the max attributes.

This thing has, like this sword has like eight different things that it does. It's like, oh, it has this much armor piercing and this much like health damage and it's this much poison damage. You're trying to make it work with a build or whatever. All those levels are maxed. But he was like, look at this.

I guess there's an end game market. This is his staff and this, you can't even buy a staff in the game. Like on the planet of all the players are playing the game. If you look at the best staff that was available to buy, it's like this is nowhere near as nice as Elon's staff. Like he has the best staff on the planet. And and still he's playing poorly, playing definitely suboptimally.

And then he doesn't he's not describing it like someone who's playing it on like you asked me what I do in hell divers look, fucking look, I'm a hell diver, bro. Level 10 difficulty, bots, tier, it doesn't matter. I can run you through exactly what I do what my classes are like my strategies. He has none of that he's just like, so this map some, what's got four of the things on it, like four of the things on it. You mean four of the things on it. You're the best player in the world.

You know what they're called. So clearly we're all, we're all laughing at it. Yeah. And it's, and it's just like when he got exposed for having that hand puppet account, as he called it, the one that would, that would, uh, his, he would tweet back to himself, he tweets a picture of him with his kid on his shoulders. And then he like replies back to that with his fake account, like, Oh, what a great father you are, Elon. Like shit like that, like really cringy shit. Like that got exposed too. And so everybody's making these videos exposing him. And of course,

Asmongold, he's like replying to the reply and then people are replying to his reply of the reply. And it gets comes this chain of just millions and millions of people ripping on him and Elon does this to further expose like how stupid he is and I don't and I mean I'm when I say stupid I mean stupid because here's here he exposes at he uh shows his dms with Asmongold and the fact that Elon Musk dms with Asmongold I'm starting to wonder about your time management once again Asmongold, I'm starting to wonder about your time management once again. Asmongold says, I'm going to see if my editors I don't know what it doesn't matter what this is in regards to. But I'll get to the core problem here in just a moment. He's Asmon says, I'm going to see if my editors might

want to make a second account for it even. He says sure, who are these mysterious editors? Andmongold goes two guys And then he gives their Twitter handles one of the guys Twitter's handle handles is da Asmongold because it's you know associated with him They're they work together. These are his editors They chop up his twitch streams put them into videos and put them on his YouTube channel for him They are his employees and we're all very familiar with that with that because we're all very familiar with YouTube video making and this sort of industry. You pay people to edit your shit together

and throw it up. I've watched his content. All the time. Yeah. Yeah, everybody does this. He says, these are the guys, they basically run the entire YouTube account law. So basically any content I post is edited

or uploaded by them and they just get a cut of the ad revenue. It's a super good system to be honest. Almost everyone on YouTube does it. Elon knows the difference between an editor at a newspaper and an YouTube editor. Now an editor in a newspaper controls the narrative. They have final say.

Oh, you wrote this and that about so-and-so? I don't think so. I want this narrative instead. I want this kind of article. They run the show. They've got writers under them, but the editor's the guy who's getting to decide what the front page looks like today. That's what Elon Musk thinks a YouTube editor is, when in fact it could be a 16-year-old kid who knows how to use editing software real quick and he's making a quick buck for you. You know, it's a summer job for him. Elon doesn't know the difference. And he is showing these DMs

because he thinks he's like exposing Asmongold for being a puppet, for not being a legitimate, I don't know, bad commentator or some shit. All he's doing is exposing further that he's an idiot, that he doesn't know what he's talking about about the most basic shit. Like this isn't difficult. This reminds me of when Trump seemingly didn't know the difference between asylum seekers

and people who had escaped from mental asylums. Hmm. Dude, Elon Musk has been saying he's better at gaming than Asmongold. Yes. Asmongold has a stack of dirty soda cans that is four feet tall. This is the cauliflower ears of the gaming world, right? Yeah. He's got condoms full of piss because he can't be pulled away from gaming. Don't fuck with the guy who's got a stack of old soda cans around his desk.

That guy's good at gaming. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't get it. And then as of course, when he tweeted that he gets like noted and they're showing all of Asmongold's accomplishments in World of Warcraft and a few other games. And you know, the guy plays games for a living and he's been playing games for a living for a decade or whatever.

He's really, really good at video games. He's great at it. Elon Musk is not good at it. I bet if Elon Musk was on even playing field with everyone else, he'd just be mediocre. And there's nothing wrong with that. But what this is, no one cares if is not good at it. I bet if Elon Musk was on even playing field with everyone else, he'd just be mediocre. And there's nothing wrong with that. But what this is, no one cares if you're good at games. What this is exposing is that you're like rotten and you're like stupid.

That you're like this is you're being a deceitful weirdo about your gaming. And like he's lying. He's lying in the wrong direction. Like I put myself in the headspace of Elon Musk, who is a billionaire. Like if I'm trying to convince investors and government officials that I'm like devoted to the boring company or something, I would make a big deal about like, yeah, guys, I know you see my Diablo account and you think that I'm on here 24 seven, I'm actually paying someone because, you know, I'm a busy guy, but I enjoy playing at a high level.

And so I do this. Like I would be hammering that home. But instead he's like, yes, I run eight, um, eight companies. And also I spend 17 hours a day gaming. It's like, what do you, who do you, you're clearly surrounded by so many yes men that nobody is saying like, Hey, this is insane. Elon, like no one buys this. And it's actually making it appear like your own fib is making it look like you don't pay attention

to your own companies. Because in order for this to be the case, you would have to be shirking all sorts of responsibilities. Like it's insane. It's impossible to do what he claims to do. There aren't enough hours in the day and he just doesn't have the talent to begin with. Like it's absurd what he's claiming to do.

And it further exposes how stupid he is because if you're going to claim that you can do a thing you certainly wouldn't claim you could do a thing that was so fucking hard. It's like bragging I'm a I climb mountains in my spirit. K2? More like K1 am I right? What are you talking about? No there are no pictures up there. When I was there I wanted to experience the beauty firsthand.

I climbed mountains so high the cameras stopped working. There could be no evidence of the mountains that I climbed. It's just I've never seen a lie where there's so little to gain by people believing that you're like kick ass at Diablo. If he was genuinely... The group that you'd impress is not the group that you want to bring along. If anything, like it's like you said, you lose people who are thinking about potentially investing in your company.

Someone's like, I don't know, I really want this. I don't know is Elon really is Tesla? I don't know. 17 hours a day. Um, what's that a video game? No, I don't think that's a sound investment. But people people that are like, people that would be impressed by the guy who's the best in the world at Path of Exile 2. I would be, if he really was, I'd be like, oh shit, that's amazing.

But clearly he's not. So, he should have stolen a different kind of valor to like seem more compelling. Like if he was like, you know, for me, cocaine is what works, you know, and like he was doing that, I'd be like, yeah, that's the guy I want. Well, he bragged just exhausted looking up 19 hours a day. But no, he's gaming.

He's fibbing about gaming. He's a bad liar. That's insane. I don't get it. And it's definitely a yes, man problem. The way he doubles and triples down and just continually exposes that he doesn't get it, that he, like, I don't know, it's a really bad look. I think less of him and less of him

every time he does something like this. Cause it's like, I thought you were smart, dude. Like this isn't, this isn't smart people shit. This isn't the, these are the actions and tweets of someone with a calculating mind. You're the people that like Austin at Path to Exile 2. Oh, I'm breaking up. Hey, Taylor.

Yeah. Could you start from the beginning on that? You've returned to us. I've returned. I was sorry about that. I was saying he's the richest man on Earth and he's spending time that he wants investors to believe is in business on lying about path to exile to like it's it's shocking to see a lie where even if everyone went along with it and every imagine

everyone sincerely believed this there is nothing to gain there's nothing to get into business anymore you made that argument twice i don't line up with it because i i think he's into business anymore. You made that argument twice. I don't line up with it. I think he's into politics. I think he's in, I think somebody else is running all the businesses at this point, which isn't a dig. It might have sounded like one. But if you put somebody competent to run Tesla and SpaceX, and they're doing a bang up job, then you've done a good thing. Like you've got something off the ground, you made it runnable, and you gave it to someone else to run it for you, and you've done fine. But he seems to be into social popularity and politics lately. And that's where he's spending his time.

And he's going for it in such a weird way. Like- Why doesn't he do the Mr. Like he could have done the Mr. Beast thing, like been a, he could have been like the Uber Mr. Beast. He's like, yeah, you're the Mr. Beast of YouTube. I'm the Mr. Beast of the planet. He could have been like the uber Mr. Beast. He's like, yeah, you're the Mr. Beast of YouTube. I'm the Mr. Beast of the planet. He could have been, you know what?

I don't want there to be any blind people anymore. I don't like it. I hate it. So I fixed all the blind people. There are no more blind. If he just made a channel called Mr. Beast times 10 and cured 10,000 blind people, cured like 10,000 cases of leprosy or whatever

the hell Mr. Beast is doing nowadays. Yeah. He's actually healing paraphernalia, people without limbs. He I think it's 2000. I think he found 2000 amputees and gave them legs. That's his most interesting thing. Really? They were shitting on him on YouTube.

He's only doing this to make money. That's a good idea though. Imagine if Elon saw that and put his energy where he's like 2000 that's some that's very cute. We're doing 200 million people. We're fixing all the fucked up people's legs in India today. Like he could get goodwill doing anything akin to that and he doesn't. He's like I'm gonna be cool by pretending to be good at a game that I don't think is even that popular anymore. I think it's popular. I'm glad he be good at a game that I don't think is even that popular anymore. I think it's popular. I'm glad he didn't do a game that I do play because that would have

been not only would I have been grossed out by how like cringy he and stupid he's making himself look, but I also been a little offended as like a gamer of that game. Like if he tried to be like the best Tarkov player, if he tried to act like he was better than landmark or something, that'd be like that. And that's what he's doing, by the way, he's saying that he is the landmark of of of of POE. He is the guy who plays all day, every waking hour, and he's also the best. So it's just, he doesn't even understand the lie he's telling and that's part of why it's so cringy and embarrassing. And it goes back to what I said at the very beginning,

what else are you lying about? What other things do you not actually do that you say that you're good at? Because I know, I don't know shit about coding, but I know he like tweeted some code the other day and it was like a jokey code that meant like, it was like blah, blah, blah, woke mind virus removal, blah, blah, blah.

Those were Linux commands, I saw that. Okay, someone said he wrote them wrong or something. Or like, I guess the prefix he put in was like his home device Which did oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's one 27001 which is yeah woke mine detected at my own house Exactly, and then he deletes the woke mine virus with this, you know RM-R. That's exactly what I'm talking about. He's he's posing as Code guy who writes Linux and and Linux and it's one of his languages. Linux is just like another language that I speak and write and code in. It's part of my genius.

That's what he's trying to say while at the same time, like, oh, I woke my virus, I'm winning. But he's just exposing himself to anyone like you who knows anything about coding. I saw it and I was like, look at smart man writing in special code. That's neat. And then I saw it. That that what I see is because I don't know shit. It's like 1.27.0.0.1 is the address that refers to the local host all the time. It's another word for local host.

And he's basically saying, this computer has the woke mind virus. Like I do. And I deleted it. Yeah. Yeah. Dick was making fun of him immediately too. Cause Dick's obviously a programmer and he's like, dude, this is like, yeah, he's like, this is like pretend programming. This is like, this is like he told Grok to make it look like I know how to do this and

then spit out whatever it was copy paste. It's he's under too much scrutiny to just be doing just easily discernible lies like this. It's silly. Like it either shows a lack of respect for people who are following or reading his stuff, or it really is what we've been saying Woody, like there is no one in his life

who doesn't actively suck his dick and is like, oh, Elon, that's so funny. That meme from 2014 that you misused is so funny. Yes. Yeah, tweet another picture of a minion. Dude, I saw, it looked like an office meeting with Elon Musk at Twitter, where like four people were just sucking his dick, telling him how great his tweets were,

how genius everyone was, how he's the best content creator on Twitter. I had never seen that kind of yes man before. It was another level. Here's what I do believe Elon Musk does well and is great at. I think he does it even if his work ethic isn't what he claims it is. He imposes a work ethic upon others. That is absurd because I hear that a lot third party.

You hear about people that I can't remember where I heard this. Somebody somebody I was like, yeah, I used to work there, I don't anymore, and they're like, oh, what happened? I think the guy had, he used to drive a Tesla, now he doesn't, and he asks his neighbor, like, what happened? He's like, oh, I couldn't work those hours. My wife is in delivery and Elon's calling me,

where are you? I need you. He's like, that's just not the life I wanna live. My suspicion and observation is Elon Musk's workload comes in waves. Like I remember at a time, Tesla was almost out of cash and he was living at the factory,

trying to get model 3's churned out to over a hundred thousand a month or something like that. And I bet he was working 20 hours a day. Like I think he really has been that guy, but nobody's that guy all the time forever. I think he tries to make his employees do that. And that's what it's like until they buy I don't think he tries to I think

he does. And and that's got to be part of the success at his businesses. People keeps at what I don't like and look, everything we said is true tonight. You know, all the lies and the clearly you're not a genius stuff and that, but, but, he does. He, I see those people on Reddit who are like, he's gotten, he got really lucky like eight times in a row. And I'm like, you know, how, what, man, I can't, I can't wait till I start hitting a hot streak of eight billionaire ideas in a row. I can't hit eight foul shots in a row, man. He had $2 billion in 2002 or something like that.

He has 500. He's going to be a trillionaire. He's going to be the world's first on his own trillionaire. I'm sorry, I had talked over you. His stocks went up a ton after Trump won, because he's associated with the new president, or the next president, I should say. And I wonder if that's sustainable. Is Tesla really going gonna do that much better because of Trump's win?

SpaceX might, that's a government contractor. Big time, SpaceX. I mean, SpaceX is good on it. I saw they did that chopstick thing and caught another fucking spaceship today. That stuff's cool. Good day, okay. That thing's cool.

That is pretty cool. I love all that stuff so much. But I read today that Elon was gonna have an office in the White House. Man, is that true? Dude, 20 minutes before Trump is like, this guy is driving me up a fucking wall. Like, he's telling him to leave.

If that was gonna happen, it woulda happened right now. Like I said last week, he's gone full Kato Kaelin mode, living in the backyard. I do this thing all the time where I flip it to see if it's like right and fair. And you know, like I do with racism a ton, like, all right, let's say someone called me this thing or treated me in this way.

How would I feel? That's, I use that as like a morality. That word doesn't bother me at all. What's the problem? I use it as like a morality compass. Yeah, I use it to track. That's my nickname. Flip this upside down and have her hitting him.

How does the crowd respond to that? That helps me sort of formulate where I believe right and wrong lies. If George Soros was getting an office in the White House because of his contributions, then I think the right would flip the fuck out. And Elon Musk is a thousand times what George Soros is. George Soros didn't offer a million dollars

to every registered voter as a lottery chance for voting for a guy, but Trump did. A million dollars a day, right? There's a daily lottery. Did I say it wrong? You said Trump, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. But Elon did do that, yes.

Yeah, Elon did that. Elon put in, was it $250 million? Was it more than that? He put in an outrageous amount of money to prop up Trump's victory. He put in a lot of money directly towards voters. And now he's getting an office in the White House. You guys would hate this if the blue team was doing it.

I mean, I brought it up. You don't turn the audience. Yeah, I wasn't clear on that. But like. Yeah, yeah. If it's true, like I read that today and I heard people discussing it and and Hmm, I wonder if it's true, you know because yeah, like what are you talking about? But if it is I don't like that one bit I don't know one bit, you know, we didn't vote for that guy because he does he's not from here. Don't forget You know the Elon Musk is out for Elon Musk

The the good thing about that though is that a lot of his projects pull the rest of us along behind him. I like the space stuff. I think the world's better with the on Musk in it. But I don't like him. If he's got an office in the fucking White House. That's bullshit. He's cut. That's crazy. He's cut to Twitter made me think that maybe Doge has a chance to do something cool. Right? There's definitely

waste in the government. There's a ton now I know is he says he's gonna cut two trillion. He's already cut that down to one trillion I'm sure it's I don't think we're even gonna cut I bet the government grows during Trump's tends to Did last time by a ton these people never give power back or funding Observation funding. It just keeps growing and growing and growing. It's quite an astute observation. Yes, it's like, it's almost like without a true figure of accountability, it just changes hands bureaucratically, nothing really evolves. We'll see. Trump's president in what, like four days or

something like that? I can't wait for it to start. I am salty about his envious position right now where he just like claims credit for peace with Israel. He claims credit for everything good that happens. He throws credit for everything bad. Put him in charge. Enough of this like honeymoon where he can do no wrong and only do right. He's playing credit for stock market greens, throwing salt for the best. The fires aren't, the fires have nothing to do with Trump. I think we all know that. But clearly Trump is what's stimulating the economy.

It's what's making peace in the Middle East. Like you ever see you ever see Biden do this easily. He's got Trump in his ear. He's getting some little what I didn't see was at the so the Jimmy Carter funeral was hilarious. All right. I wish he died sooner for the jokes. Oh my God.

Just like to a hundred. The Carter family did this thing where they the Carter family cut Trump and Melania out in the photo and they're the official like the one they tweeted out and everything. Like it was clearly on purpose. They put a column right over him. They put it there, but they positioned the camera in such a way so that it would be. And I saw I don't even know what it was, but it's Trump and Obama are sitting next to each other. They had to sit him next to somebody.

You know, like somebody's gotta sit next to Trump. Melania's on his left, somebody's gotta be on Trump's right. And it seemed like he was having a good chat with Obama, which is crazy to me. Looked really cordial. It did look really, it looked like Obama and him or joking around

And the video that I was kept trying to send you Taylor was Someone had added the audio back on to it And I don't know if they're reading the lips or if they were making the lips move so that but it looked like they were Making fun of they made it seem like they were making fun of Kamala And having a having a good time at her expense and stuff. And she's sitting like right there. It's such a fun photo that all of those people who we know like, I don't know, we know all these people's dirty laundry. We know so much about these people

and to have them concentrated in that one little area is pretty neat, that's a cool photo. I look forward to the presidency starting as well. I'm not sure that peace in the Middle East has been achieved. I think what's, I thought I read today that they went back again, that they were like, actually something came up and like went back on the thing. I bet Trump will get the job done. My prediction for the Trump presidency,

I don't know if he's going to do anything that he promised, but I bet the wars will be over by the time he's out. I bet the Ukraine thing will be over. I bet the Israel thing will be over and he'll get credit for both. Or at least he will take credit for both. We'll see. We'll see. I mean, Bibi Netanyahu tends to just do whatever he wants

and we just deal with it as America. Like- And by deal with it, you mean give them whatever he wants. We pay for them to do whatever they want. And then he's like, Hey, uh, I'm, I'm coming to the U S I'm going to give a speech. And how about you guys give me, I don't know, like, like, like 1930s, like Stalin level applause breaks. Like,

have you seen that shit where BB's like talking about like how he needs to conquer this or conquer that and like all of our elected officials are, yeah, and it's like, can we get like one iota of this for the American people? Like just, just a little bit. Can you pretend to care about us half as much as you care about Israel? Like, come on. I've never understood why we give so much to Israel, why that's good for America. It baffles me. And it doesn't even have to be in our favor. If you said we gave this much to Haiti because they're in desperate need,

I'd be like, ah, and I get that. People are hurting, dying, literally cannibalizing each other. And you think you can make a difference with what's pocket changed to America, like, I can get on board with that. But that's not Israel's situation. They're a first world country. They have a first world military and we're still funding it. We're still giving them all the, why are we like, it's like me giving Musk money. I don't know. It would

wacko. Yeah. It's absurd. It's absurd that we are roped into all of this just perpetually. We don't get anything for it. I think a lot of think a lot of people are there massacring right now. You know, those people will never bother us when I worry about them, you know? That's how you multiply them. They're like gremlins. People say that.

They always say that. Water makes more gremlins and feed them after midnight. Don't do those things. Well, I do. Don't feed them after midnight. Yeah, you don't feed them after midnight. You don't get them wet, okay? I remember that. This is Maghweid fucking rules, you don't get them wet. Okay.

This is my why this is my fucking rules people it applies to Muslims to you get a Muslim wet. Just wait, just wait. They start in the morning. Little Muslims start popping off of them and shit. Yeah. Well, that would be sick if we could just like stop supporting those wars. But I'm pessimistic about it seems like powerful people want that to continue and

they tend to get what they want. I enjoy the wars Taylor you know this it makes for good content okay I've been thinking about the content Taylor. I have been thinking about the new shit. Let me tell you about the new the new shit Taylor all right so now the drones. I love this. Dude the drones they're the kamikaze Ukrainian drones, they fly up to you and then they explode next to your fucking head and blow you up. And so they

chase, they're chasing these North Koreans around in fields like fucking with them. And the North Koreans are like trying to poke the drones with their rifles and stuff and trying to shoot at them and stuff. And clearly they're scared. They're scared in the way that like, I've seen, you know, everybody's scared of an explosive drone coming at you They're scared in a way that like they think of some magic come after them They're scared the way a black person gets scared when you when you do that little like finger They think some kind of goblin has come out of the air to Their eyes are so big Taylor Taylor. They are, oh!

They're fucking terrified and they're running from it. And the operator is having a little fun at their expense. He's zipping around. He's trying to round them up and trying to make two of them run together, like doing circles around a group and they're all trying to get away. And then-

He's trying to get like fucking steam achievements in the Ukraine. And then he just flies the thing into the back of their fucking head and explodes and you know the camera turns off then so you don't have to see all the gore. They caught two North Koreans. They went in and like roughed them up a little bit, drug them out of there and they got them and they're like, do you know where you are?

And they're like, no. Do you know that you're fighting a war against Ukraine? And he's like, we were told we were on military exercises he doesn't know where he is or who he's fighting dude be a North Korean would suck so hard like you're malnourished you're skinny you're told to do everything by a guy who pretends he doesn't poop and like eats cheese all day and then they ship you off to a war you have no idea what you're doing running around you're probably jealous because the Russian guys get better food

than you and they're they're not mountainers so they're taller they're just they're probably not getting along well well I can't imagine a country I would rather not be born in the North Korea it's got to be there they're definitely being treated as some kind of second day second-class soldier right over there because like the Irish in Braveheart even worse even worse like I they're like they're being treated terribly they have to be because I bet if I've heard that the Russians are trying to keep them the North Koreans from being captured the North the Ukrainians were describing the scenario when they captured the North Korea and

that they were like this isn't an area where there's a lot of like artillery fire like we haven't experienced a lot of that. But when we went in for the North Korean, when we tried to get him, everything in the area opened up on our position. It was like they were trying to like prevent that from happening. Um, which I don't know why, like clearly there are no Koreans there. Like everyone knows it. What would they know? Oh, it's not that they know anything. I think they're trying to,

I think Putin's trying to make it seem like I don't know it didn't happen or there aren't 10,000 North Koreans there or something I I don't know but it's it's it's it's like a open secret sort of I watched a lot of Like military updates on how the Ukraine war is going. It's not the same stuff Kyle watches It's a little less it's more more like vertical or aerial pictures of maps and who's where and not like the the tactics of how they're getting what kills and deaths Anyway They're doing well in Russia right now. They're taking towns there This is Ukraine expanding their territory and a lot of it is because North Korea is fucking terrible at war They took out the comms between the North Koreans and the Russians

They started attacking each other because they didn't know who was who and they Russians, they started attacking each other because they didn't know who was who. And they're just they basically hurt their ability to communicate. And the North Koreans are doing terribly without Russian leadership. And it's they're bad. They're bad at this. I'm glad. What what percent of North Koreans can speak Russian? I'm going to guess is zero percent. It's close. Like, can you imagine the frustration some Russian guys like, Oh, for love of God, could tell him we don't have dog to eat. We don't do that. You know, that's fucking gross. And to please charge forward. And if you die, do it in like a way that looks Russian. Like, like, it's

just absurd. Conscripting North Koreans wild. So is Kim Jong-un like really excited to be a part of it or do you think China did a little thumb leaning and was like, hey Kim Jong, you know how you're like a little cutesy little vassal state of ours? You're going to send. No, that's not the relationship at all. No, I think if anything, China would have been against this. They really would have. I think China does. This isn't I think China doesn't want this thing to continue. I thought North Korea imported a ton of their food from China, like they were pretty much beholden to them. Sure, they absolutely are. But this is a deal between Kim and Putin. In exchange, he got a lot of tech stuff and missile stuff, they're saying suppose I've heard that same thing that North Korea got tech advancements Russia got artillery and humans yeah and I think the other thing is North Korea needed experience

their last is there a living human in North Korea that had seen war prior to well technically they are their oldest yet yeah technically speaking there're they've been in a continued state of war Okay, but we're serious. You know is is no no one who fought in that is still serving or in any meaningful way So yeah, I can't imagine any if you haven't like if no one in your entire country has ever lived it How could you be good at such a thing? Yeah, so this is gonna help them. I Guess I mean like again like, I think this was- In that way. Look at this, show some of these pictures, Zach. I don't think any of them are gory.

I'm clicking through them. Yeah, they're all good. This is like, this is the last images for these people. There's no gore in any of them. No, I appreciate that. One of them, maybe this is the last frame before boom. Dude, are these all North Koreans? Last one's my favorite.

Can you get to the last one? This guy, look, I don't agree with he chose golf cart, but I admire the attitude He is fighting to the last frame when we get to the last one Go back that guy back there was this guy Dude yeah, yeah, yeah Zack can you find the one he's pointing a gun at the this side this stops out this guy His face is he's still trying to win He's not giving up on a boss fight this guy, his face is, he's still trying to win.

He's not giving up on this boss fight, but I bet he loses. Yeah, he didn't make it. Maybe, I mean, he may have shot, he could have shot it down and won. Let's hope so. From that close, wouldn't it explode and kill him anyway? I don't know what that explosive is. I don't understand most of the explosives that militaries actually use. The anything that's plastic doesn't doesn't go off when

you shoot it. So you'd have to like hit the detonator, but there's no tell of what they're sending over there. That's like improvised out. They'll take like the warhead out of an RPG and just one guy's holding it while another guy zip ties it onto a drone and like pulls the pin out of the back and they and he goes Sometimes that's is all it is so you shoot that thing then oh my god, you know, it's you're gonna die Didn't even occur to me that Explosives wouldn't blow up when you shoot them because i've seen that in so many movies. Yeah You could shoot a grenade and apparently the whole building goes down. I saw it in Walking Dead.

Shit won't happen if you shoot a grenade. Nothing will happen if you shoot C4. I don't know about Composition B. That's like World War II. Neither do I. Taylor? That's like the satchel charges. Well, I'll let, if you can just go ahead and take it. But I know whenever they- It's no composition C, I'll say that. You've heard of composition B,

in World War II, it's those little blocks of explosive. They've only had- It's little blocks of explosive. I've heard of something called satchel charges, which might be- That's it too. Okay. But I, yeah. You know, my friends and I just call called satchel charges, which might be okay, but I Yeah, you know I my friends and I just call it satchel charges. They just get they had these little blocks of Explosive and they like

This is what this is a boom. This is two of them's a big boom and three and they were just able to add more and more So a satchel charge is just full of us, right? You know, you just it's just like cartoon when in World War II, we were a little less sophisticated, I guess. I don't know if that shit goes off when you shoot it, but I know all those warheads that they just strap on there, or those mines, any of that shit, if you shoot it, it would just pop. I saw the one guy throw a gas can at the drone, and that's the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. I wish I hadn't seen that now. Like the drone's coming in to blow him up. And I think he was refueling his motor motorbike or something when this happened. So he throws a metal gas can at it. But it blows the gas can up and

sets him on fire. And so now he's just on fire, which is so much more. I have no problems. What? No, two problems. I'm on fire and I'm still out of gas. I'd rather be blown up. Oh, you definitely won't be blown up. It's being set on fire. I'd like to have no idea. I'd like to be blown up by the most silent drone imaginable. Like where I don't hear where I think, like where I swat at what I think is a bee.

And then my head explodes. Like I don't want to be one of those guys is like, just running around the tree. And absolutely. They fuck with you for a while. Just panic. Like how much batter you got? Oh, oh, oh. Oh.

I mean, have you put circles around the building? Yeah, that's just wasteful. Some of those guys are mean with it. You can tell. I remember how many kills this one kid had had. He was getting like. They're like, Todd lobby people killing. Yeah. was getting like- They're like cod lobby people killing. Yeah, they're like cod lobby.

They genuinely are. And guess what? Anything fly, any words fly on those comms, I bet. This one kid looked like he was 24, 25, and he had like 600 confirmed kills or something crazy like that. It was like 500 human beings and like 100 motorcycles and like 200 armored vehicles and 87 tanks.

And it was like this one kid did all that with a video game controller and they showed him killing. They showed him fighting, working, whatever you want to call it in his bunker, like laying down with his headset on and he's just killing Nick Vapes. He's just hitting Nick Vapes constantly drinking Red Bull and shit and killing. Oh my God. This is what we dreamed about. It was like those war centers are like running on monster and Zen. Well, he's not in a he's in like a he's out there because their shit doesn't operate like ours does across the world. They they've got to be close to operate those drones. They're a couple kilometers

away or something like that. They're in the shit. So they're hitting those nick vapes and drinking monster like in a bunker, you know, laying down all filthy and shit. Oh, this is a tangential to the military stuff. Maybe you know more because I haven't followed it. What was all that hollow blue a few weeks ago where people were like, oh, there's new tech that China and the US has about gravity and how we've harnessed it in some way to create propulsion. And then I, I haven't been looking for it, but then I think there was a whistleblower who said that the Chinese have anti-grav tech that we also have anti-grav tech and that they have been launching anti-grav drones from submarines in the Atlantic and testing them over our country and he said I also said that if they wanted they could just park one over the

White House. I don't remember who that guy was. I didn't take it very seriously. There may have been a whistleblower that I don't know about but the guy who I didn't take it very seriously. There may have been a whistleblower that I don't know about, but the guy who I know said it was the guy who wrote the manifesto, mini-festo before he murdered all those people. That's the guy. That's what it is. That's what it is.

Was it just him? Or was there someone else having a to-do about the gravity stuff? I've only heard it from him. It's only him. Saying that the drones over New Jersey are gravity- powered Chinese secret tech This is the guy's part of you a little disappointed that we don't have gravity drones or at least we don't oh

That's what they want you to think Taylor. They have them I think they've been we have a we should brag. I want to see it I think they've been working on that tech. That's like the next thing right like that's that's the sci-fi tech that fit that does so all the cool shit like like all of those hovering spacecraft and It's that anti-grab technology that that would be incredible if you if you could do that if you could make objects not only weightless But weigh as much or as little as you want it and and move them as quick move them as quickly as you want it Like that would be incredibly powerful

and move them as quickly as you want it. Like that would be incredibly powerful. So I'm not saying that we don't have that or we do have that, but I'm just never worried about the Chinese. I'm just not. We spend so much goddamn money. If anything's got anything scary, then we do. Didn't they put a plane out recently,

like a Gen 6 fighter or something? I don't know enough about planes to say, oh, their Gen 6 doesn't rival our Gen 6 or it does. I don't know enough about planes to say, oh, their gen six doesn't rival our gen six or it does, I don't know. I don't think, well, obviously they say they don't know enough about it to know anything. It's what they said. From what they saw.

They could tell that it was really heavy, they said. They could tell, I think it had two engines. They had a few little things like that that they could just take away from looking at it. It has internal bomb bays. I like the rule of thumb about Russia and America, which is like, if Russia says this thing goes Mach 2, it goes Mach 1. And if America says it goes Mach 1, it goes Mach 2. I don't know where China falls on that scale. They're like full of bluster and like posture. I think maybe we talked about it years ago,

but there's like apparently like an entire old Russian adage that is like, oh, China's last warning to mean like, oh yeah, you're giving me a final warning, a Chinese final warning. Oh my goodness, I better shape up. I better really get in because there's many more final warnings coming your way. There's going to be many more Chinese final warnings before anything, but they're just posturing and blustering and

getting perhaps a little too big for their britches. Although we're the country that's too big for our britches. They're pretty thin. I've been hanging on this story for 20 minutes now. We were talking about amputees and such and Elon Musk. Dude, so I know the guy who ran the charity. There was a charity for vets, injured vets to fly paramotors. The idea was these guys are struggling with PTSD and it's that recipe for like sunshine success, etc. I know it sounds like a boogaloo but it must be great. Baffling.

But if you're struggling with like happiness and readjusting to life I can imagine that this like group activity in the sun would be good for you. That's what I think. Maybe tennis. I'm just laughing at my friend. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Anyway, there was a wealthy guy who wasn't a veteran, I think, and he wanted to learn to foot launch a paramotor,

which is like running with something heavy on your back, but he had one bad leg. So what he did is he donated enough to get a military amputee to go to training with him. And my friend ran the charity, that's how I know this story. And I thought that was pretty dope. Like if you have a lot of money, and you're trying to buy some happiness, be like, I don't want to be the only amputee in this class. Now there's two me and this army vet,

and we're gonna learn to run into the sky. And I thought that was a dope way for a rich guy to be a yeah, I like that too. I like that too. I like that too. I am I just I laugh because the idea of someone who has PTSD throwing them into terrifying life-or-death scenario I didn't look at it through that lens. I see Whoa, how about we just guys I need I need to I'm doing a fundraiseriser surprise fireworks shows for better At their home no less, you know, they don't have to leave they can stay

Little little stars and stripes 1 a.m. Outside their bedroom door That is so funny some guy is like, hmm, I love param. Do you want a paramotor with me? And he's like, is that the option? Do you have like a pickleball program? No. What about pottery? Get in the fucking chair. We're gonna zoom you around. That's what's that's what's crazy though. So he had one leg. Is that the deal? Yes, but he had one leg.

So he demanded that the amputee had one leg too. Don't give me some one arm dude. Like they want to match disabilities. So I'm a little confused about like, so he wants the paramotor. Is he doing it tandem or? No, no, no. He's going to learn to run into this guy. Like the you so he's got a leg. Yeah. Yeah, did I not say that? Right. He had a prosthetic leg

I guess I was imagining him like not being able to run but prosthetics are so good now that it's almost like an advantage To lose a leg. That's what I think about some of the sci-fi movies like in Star Trek or even Star Wars You know when you it's like holy shit, dude, your hands way better now You can crush people's like throats with your mechanic hand. That's- I had one bionic leg, I could dunk a basketball. I guess.

Just one bionic calf. I just need that like, like, like toe down, like power up thing. Like Robocop had those shocks on the back of his foot. Ooh, I would love that. Oscar Pistorius was only able to do it because of those blade legs, not the running the murder. Yeah. They drove. And didn't he murder her through a door through a door. He said that he thought it was an intruder

in the home. He woke up intruder in the home. They're in the bathroom. So he gets out his pistol and he unloads through the door. South African Paralympic champion. If anyone wants to look him up and his girlfriend, of course, had got up to piss. She was through the door, South African Paralympic champion, if anyone wants to look him up. And his girlfriend, of course, had gotten up to piss. She was in the bathroom. Never consider that, I suppose, as he's loading and putting his legs on. Who would have guessed that? He's just loading and putting his legs on. He must have been quick.

Wow, these burglars have disguised their voices. You're not going to trick me. So he gunned her down. It's a good thing he didn't give that potential burglar any warning or knock on the door or any of that business. Any of that business. Just start shooting. Just start shooting.

Just an absurd story. Just fucking bullshit. Uh, clearly it was from the start. Uh, he went to prison. I always wondered. I don't think he gave him his legs in there. Like, like I wonder what kind of legs he gets in prison. Oh dude, without the legs, he a fucking fleshlight in there. Oh boy.

Just getting abused and abused by the populace of the Cape Town penitentiary or whatever the fuck is. Yeah 321, those South African boys would have been having their way with him. Oh he's on parole now. Dricus are you done? He's on parole. I guess you don't know if the story is was released on parole on the 5th of January 2024. Yeah, we're serving eight point five years. Well, this happened. Oh, I guess a year and so much time passes like I've that's one thing about getting my new truck. You know, I got that new truck. It it's kind of dope it's like six years old seven years old yeah time flies when you're having fun dude it's a 2018 it's not remotely new

it's pretty fucking scary getting like seeing just your self-age like losing contact with with the lingo oh not getting stuff skidgibbidi is not with the lingo, not getting stuff. Skibbidi is not. What did I say? Don't say it. Some of it is like cringe culture. Like there's no reason to immerse yourself in cringe culture. Like I will familiarize myself with like normal pop culture and like whatever the newest gen shit is. So I understand what people are fucking saying, but I'm not gonna indulge in it. And I'm certainly not gonna indulge in cringe culture, which is what all that skivvy toilet bullshit is.

I don't want any part of that. I'm pretending like it doesn't exist. When I see it on anywhere on the internet, I keep flicking, I treat it like gore. Pretend like it doesn't exist. Then like that woman's face, it's blown apart. You scroll right past it looking for gore, ironically. And then you send it to Taylor. I treat it like't exist. And like that woman, right? Asking for Gore, ironically,

then you send it to Taylor. I'm just really like Gore. I got some winners. I go across the Internet and I find the creme de la creme of Internet videos and I send them to Taylor. I always enjoy the pictures of Murphy and the gang the most,

especially the one where they were playing in the snow. Very adorable. Murphy, I made steak last night and Murphy grabbed a chunk of steak out of my hand before I could like make it into smaller pieces and nearly choked to death. Just nearly died. He did this piece of steak. It was a hon. Cause what I did is I cooked two, like New York steaks and then I sliced them up and like presented them on a plate and like salted and buttered them up and everything.

And like the slices were way too big to just eat. You still needed to like cut them into thirds. And he ate a hunk of steak and he was just like, ah, ah. And then he like throws it up and I'm like, thank God. And I got to grab it and he swallows it again. He made it. But I was like, dude, I was so worried about him. I was like, fuck, he's going to die right here. He's if I had tried to swallow that hunk of steak, I wouldn't have gotten it down. I would have needed CPR

or behind. Like rather, I would have needed somebody to help me get it up or down one way or the other. It was so big. It was a piece of steak as big as this fucking vape. It was huge. Like, like, like it would have died. If you would have died of a piece of steak like that, it would have been Toby keeping Murphy from like eating your nose off. Toby would have been like, get away from the boss. He'll be up. Oh, look, Murphy, Murphy likes to lick my ears, like, like into my fucking ear canal. He wakes me up doing that to me and it is upsetting. It is getting annoying. I mean, it's, you know,

it's pretty horrific way to wake up. 2 15 in the morning. No, like he wakes me up when it's like, like 6 AM. They want to get up and like go about their day. I sleep with all the dogs in my bed Look at this. Woody has a steam engine. Look at this Whoa Look at it go Now that it's my understanding that's one of the highest quality gifts you can get

We worked so hard to try to produce electricity out of this steam engine. It, like, the side right here, let me try and show this to you, has like a little wheel that you could like put a rubber band on and turn things. So we got a, you know, magnet with some copper whinings and got it going and it just does not have the horsepower to spin anything useful and charge a phone or anything like that but it does do this so kind of very cool very that is very cool a sterling engine if anyone is curious about what we're talking about what he has a miniature sterling engine powered by a candlestick i have one sterling engine powered by a can. As does Kyle.

I have one. I think that I'm going to use mine in case there's an apocalypse. And I, so I want to keep it unassembled, I think for wear and tear purposes. No, I'm going to put it together at some point. Uh, I think mine's mine is definitely different than this. It has mine does charge a little battery. It's supposed it's meant to do like the thing. Um, I'm pretty sure that's the one I sent you that what he bought it from the same link I sent. Oh, well, I wouldn't know. I haven do like the thing. I don't know I'm pretty sure that's the one I sent you. Woody bought it from the same link I sent. Oh well I wouldn't know I haven't opened the box.

There were a few options on that link I wondered if I clicked the wrong one or something I don't know you know how Amazon is like yeah yeah color choices or whatever. What would happen if you took a like I don't know what the the thing with the water in it looks like but what if you take a blow torch and superheated that bitch? Could you get her? Right? I have noticed that using a candle, it gets sooty and then that seems to insulate it, it loses power. So you have to clean it all every so often.

Cause we were really trying to get it to power something. There was a fan, it can turn the fan at like two RPM. Like. But. Steam engines are fucking cool. I would like, I wish I had. I don't know. I wish I wish we used that more. And whenever I see steampunk stuff, I'm really into it.

Like I'm not into all the cosplay and the way that people like role play around steam pucks somehow. They all wear those goofy, thick glasses like the circle, like thick, like almost welder goggles but I guess that's steampunk yeah everything invented a combination gas steam engine have you ever heard of this no no audience the way that normal gas engines work you probably know you inject some fuel in there it pushes it down by expanding during the explosion, and then there's water, a radiator fluid, that like goes all around the engine block to cool it off, and that gets pumped

through and through the radiator, which air blows through and cools it off. Okay, well there's a different idea. Now there are two fuel sources, one's gas and one's water. And the gas revolutions work as they do now, but then we also inject water in there, which expands as steam and gives power that time. There's no more radiator. There's no more like reusable water. Instead, water and fuel become both sort of fuel sources, but the water cycles where it extends into steam

and pushes the piston down are designed to cool off the engine and produce power, whereas the gas ones heat it up and produce power. You know what you need to do? You need to add a third fuel source. Because if you start, if you all, if you burn hydrogen, the, when you burn hydrogen, you make water. So we're gonna make water to add in,

to make more steam, I love this. Maybe remove the gas. make water. So we're gonna make water to to add in to to to to to make more steam. I love this. Maybe remove the gas. No, no, we want the gas. That's that. It has to work. We got like two different things that don't really work. You want at least one that you want the one that actually fucking works in the end but the idea of cooling off the engine with a steam cycle you know is like oh that's a cool concept i like the idea of bleeding off the uh the the because have you ever like opened the radiator of a car that's overheating and like like like done it like you press down and like turn it and then jump away and let it gush all the

the boiling water straight up you ever ever done this Taylor? No. I've done it like a smart person with a gigantic towel on top. So the water doesn't burn anybody nearby. Nah, this is like a redneck, like, like you're a man when you cause everywhere, you go to a dollar store parking lot, there's a fat lady with three kids in the back of a minivan and that bitch is overheating and you got to be the man steps up and goes up there jumps away and that boiling water jumps up everywhere and you go in there and you pour a few gallons of that dollar store water in there and you get a little

pussy. That's how it goes. Oh wait you don't just pee in the radiator like a man's man? No you don't want to get that in the system that's bad for it. Why not? That's what Bear Grylls would do. He would urinate in the in the car. That probably wouldn't be good for him. He would and if the woman was thirsty you know a little extra. girls would do. You would urinate in the, in the car. I probably wouldn't be good for it. And if the woman was thirsty, a little extra give her the water or the piss.

They sell water right there for very cheap. It's a dollar store. I saw the, I was looking at deep freezes and I saw one that had a propane backup and I was like, how the fuck does that work? It burns propane and keeps things cold. Yeah. freezer oh is it oh I never heard that term before yeah maybe it's a colloquial deep freeze deep freezer anyway a big like cabinet freezer is the one I'm gonna go like our cabinet freezer that doesn't have a refrigerator section yeah it's like the one in your garage that you like lift. It's like what you keep a body in.

Sure, it's a body freezer. I was looking at those and I saw one that had a propane backup and I was like, I didn't even know that technology exists. I guess it'll burn like a bottle of propane and keep itself cold. If you like touch the back of like a fridge, you can like feel heat.

Cause like there is a little engine running in there that somehow creates cold. And I'm like there is a little engine running in there that somehow creates cold and I'm sure there's a few steps that pressurizes coolants and pressure. My guess is propane backup we're talking about is just you don't know how refrigerators work a lot of generators run on electric run on propane so it's just a propane powered engine that is a generator like every other generator. I'll have no, not only do I know how refrigerators work, I'm the number one expert globally in refrigerators.

You're the main tag man. Ask me any question about refrigerators. What kind of coolant do they use? All sorts. Next. Freon. I think they cut the Freon out. It's like an acronym now. Well, but I'm a bit of a Freon loyalist when it comes to refrigerators.

Someone like you, like a casual as we call them. Why do I think it's CNC that they use? Ah, that's consensual non-consent. That's a different thing. What? I don't think that's what you're asking. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.

I'm not right at all. There's a couple different ones. It's free on not what you use in refrigerators. Free on is what they used before you were born. Okay. Yeah. And in cars as well. It's what they used in cars before we were, you know,

maybe, maybe not, maybe not for I'd have been born. Right. You were a kid. Yeah. I think that's how they fixed that hole in the ozone layer was by cutting out the Freon and the, uh, the, uh, the hairspray and stuff. You remember that Taylor, we had a hole in the ozone layer. I do remember that being on the news, but I was too young to give a shit. I didn't really change our ways. And we fixed it. I put all my worries in the killer bees basket as a child. I hear the more we have we and we then we had it a second time with the murder hornets, but I hear they're all gone now. They got rid of all the more murder hornets and I kind of feel that it is great. And I feel like someone should have been patted on the back

publicly because they made such a big deal I had a scaredness about the things once they finally eradicated them They should have been like thanks to the hard work of I would have liked to know who was the guy who was leading? The murder hornet team where I pat that guy on the back. Give him a fucking medal You know, I want his team to get some acknowledgement. Yeah Ornates in the country. We got John Goodman winning like presidential medal of freedom, guys like that. Meanwhile, the murder hornet savior of the world. No, man. What did he do?

John Goodman. I don't think it was actually John Goodman. It was some other actor. Liz Cheney got one. Cheney got one and I think George Soros got one. Am I crazy about it? I don't know. I mean, I can see the people who donate lots of money getting in there do. If a medal had ever been worth less,

it's a presidential participation trophy or some shit. It has no meaning or worth. You just hand them out clearly to whoever you want. George Soros did get one. And you might've been thinking of Michael J Fox when you said that I saw that I'm good. Give him one. He does all the Parkinson shit Throw him about he has any choice

The Parkinson shit does him. He came out He came out so goddamn shaky and I was thinking like oh my god I hope I hope someone's there to, you know, keep him stable. And they have him on the left side of Biden. Biden is holding Michael J. Fox up. And now they're rocking together up there. Who's holding who? You're the one holding the ruse, Kyle. Michael J. Fox is holding up Joe Biden. And suddenly you realize that the only Biden was just able to stay on kilter by just a

hair. So now the addition of Michael J. Fox having the shakes and Biden, Biden swaying around, he looks like he might go down. It was a bad look. I found all 19 of them. I'm going to go through some and you guys are going to tell me deserve it. Don't deserve it. OK, make your case.

I wish that we had. I wish it was. Are these Presidential Medal of Freedom award winners? These are President Biden announces recipients of the presidential medal of freedom. And it looks like you even know them, Taylor. Okay. And if not, I'll, I'll tell you what I know, which is the small paragraph beneath their name.

All right. Jose Andres. I know him. He's the renowned Spanish American culinary innovator. Man, you know your shit. That's exactly the paragraph. All right. If I, if I saw a video of his food, I could either say yeah, you're nay on this, but it's

fine for him. Bono does Bono deserve one or no. I think he's done a tremendous amount of like public good works, but way that against being in you too. Yeah. Touche. Yeah. So I'm going to, I'm'm going to he's going to be a push. Ashton Baldwin Carter, the 25th Secretary of Defense.

Possibly also he doesn't know him one doesn't matter. Hillary Clinton got one. Oh, he was a former presidential candidate. Dude, just her work in cattle trading alone is deserving. OK. Yeah. You know what? She couldn't be president. Let's give her work in cattle trading alone is deserving. Okay. Yeah, you know what? She couldn't be president. Let's give her a fucking medal. Michael J. Fox. We all are good with that one. How about Tim Gill? Favorite comedian. I don't know why Michael J. Fox gets one. I really don't. What's wrong with Michael J. Fox to you? Oh. Why do you hate people with Parkinson's?

to you. Oh, why do you hate people with Parkinson's? It's a question. Still, Taylor, I it upsets me. What do you think? That's a dishonest framing. You think that was a bad thing? I just don't even know what that fucking metal is about. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. It's like it's juvenile to me. Like, like, I don't know. And I, and you'd like to think that Biden would be the guy who'd, who'd have serious

appointments and serious metal appointees or whatever the fuck, but he's just given it to. Yeah. Well, let's not pretend he's the first one to be given out silly presidential levels of freedom. I hope it doesn't cost the mayor. I wonder what those metals cost us. Like the, the taxpayer. I wonder what, you know what I mean? Like I wonder what each metal costs. But so Michael J. Fox devoted his post Parkinson's life to like popularizing and raising money and battling the disease.

Yeah, I liked him on Spin City. Spin City. Yeah, it was a show where he was the, like the spin guy for a mayor I think the mayor might have been Phil Hartman and And had Heather Locklear She was in the show too And then he got his diagnosis and I think he left the show and they replaced him with like maybe Rob Lowe or somebody

Like that, I don't know. It's a sitcom that I was watching early. She maybe yep. That could have been it This is a again. It's a sitcom for when I was. I did watch this back in the day. Yeah. I know you regret it. Huh? They should give one to Phil Hartman for Lionel Hutz. I mean, I liked him in news radio.

Do you ever see news radio? Never a second of it. So news radio is a really good show. It did terrible in the ratings, but Joe Rogan's doing his earliest earliest work that's on this recorded outside of stand-up, I guess. And Andy Dick is in there. I know he's insufferable and like everything, but he's good in this. Kathy Griffin is in there. Phil Hartman's in there. Everyone does a good job. The, the, the overweight guy who owns the station. I can't think of that actor's name, but he's in so many Cohen brothers, movies

and stuff like you, he's, he's a folksy sounding, like, you know, this guy and he's a great actor. There's an episode, there was a storyline where Phil Hartman is like the star of the, of the station. He's their talk radio guy and he's got it smooth. Phil Hartman voice. And he's, he's in there talking and something happened. Like he couldn't get in the booth right away. And they're like, somebody's got to read the news. Somebody's got Ed Smoove, Phil Hyman voice, and he's in there talking and something happened, like he couldn't get in the booth right away, and they're like, somebody's got to read the news,

somebody's got to read the news, Joe, go in there and read the news, and Joe goes, I can't do this, and you can do it, Joe, and Joe puts his headset on, he goes into the microphone, and it's really funny because this is 25, 30, this is 30 years, 35 years ago or something something and he's like in like a pot as a little studio and he's great at like right away he's like like not he's let he's well informed and And he's smooth and he's slick and Hartman joins him cuz he's like, oh you're doing a little too Well, and he tries to trip him up. He's like what exactly is that Joe? And well, it's actually the repair of the small meniscus around the knee. You'll be out for six to six to eight weeks. They'll have him back soon, though.

Like like in film feels like, ah, ah, like just hating. You know how sometimes you'll hear voice actors do a character before they were even part of that show? Like, did he ever drift into Troy McClure or Lionel Hutz at all, like doing those voices? That was probably the same time period as he was doing those characters on The Simpsons. Oh, yeah.

But I don't know, I watched that show for so long ago. I didn't know who any of those people were on the show. I like News Radio too. At one point, Joe Rogan takes his shirt off and I was shocked. Like, I don't know how I didn't recognize just how fit the dude was with clothes on, but there was some random scene where he took a shirt off and he's like fitness influencer. Yeah, he's always been

jacked. Yeah. How about this one? Jane Goodall. I like it. I like it. I don't want to sway the gallery here, Kyle. Does Jane Goodall with all her research with chimps, does she get the medal? She is trying to remember. She's a conservationist. She put her life on the line having sex with those animals. Now I won't stand for that. Is she the Gorillas in the Mist person?

Is she the Gorillas? I haven't seen Gorillas in the Mist. No, no, that's about Dian Fawzi. Dian Fawzi is the other white lady who made Jane Goodall was more like chimps. So do you like that? Fossey was more gorillas. I think. Um, yeah.

Yeah. I like anybody that works with animals. I'm down with Jane Goodall too. I like, I like the chimp researchers and all the monkey people. Those are good. Um, Fannie Lou hammer. That's not a real name. I agree.

Scrolling down. Not real magic Johnson. I mean, look, anybody that can can survive AIDS for for this many decades, it would and all of his contribution to the world of basketball. Yes, he gets. Yeah, sure. Magic can have one. Okay. Yeah, let's throw on magic sway Ralph Lauren the guy with the clothes Fuck no Ralph Lauren doesn't get one. No, I say no to Ralph Lauren, too He's already have one either all his textile money. He doesn't get one Lionel Messi Is it Ralph Lauren? You know if Lionel Messi was American it'd be a slam dunk for me. He's Argentinian Argentinian though, right? Yeah, I don't know. And he's a son, Mary.

He's the South American Medal of Freedom, maybe. But I don't think he should have ours. Like if we if we haven't given one to like Wayne Gretzky yet and Lionel Messi, a soccer player from Argentina gets one first. That's crazy. What did he do to get one? He's just really fucking good at soccer, man. Oh, he supports health care and education programs for children around the world What did he do to get one? He's just really fucking good at soccer, man.

Oh, he supports health care and education programs for children around the world through the Lionel Messi Foundation. Okay, well, I bet Gretzky does something too. Probably. William Sanford Nye, Bill Nye? No, I say no to Bill Nye. Bill Nye lost me when he got, when he went like so hard left on the gender issue.

Like, I really... Oh, did he? Yeah, yeah. Ah, gender's a spectrum. Just like light. Like a few cocksucker. And it's like, you spun of a gun. I specifically remember a video we watched from you where you were like, you can learn

a lot through chromosomes. Some went sex and some once I did it. Like, you know, it was like, why, why did you lie to me, Bill? Why are you trying to fib me, fib on me, Bill? See, I say no to him. George Romney, posthumous, I'm not reading the posthumous ones, doesn't matter. George Soros.

That guy's gotta be, he's gotta be related to Mitt Romney, right? There's no way that there's a random Romney up there getting a posthumous medal from the president, right? Especially the way that Romney sucked Biden's dick and went full. He was a governor of Michigan. That's the guy, yeah, that's his dad.

Oh, okay. It's his dad. I'll check, but I'm pretty sure. David Rubenstein, a global investor, investment firm. a global investor, investment firm. That doesn't, so he was just so good at investing that they gave him a medal. Nah, the reward for that is lots of money. You don't get a medal too, no on him. George Soros, same thing.

Just real quick, it is his dad and I saw his picture. Good God, they look like twins. They look so similar. That's some strong genes up there. It's aging pretty well. The ROM, oh, Denzel Washington. I'm in favor of Denzel. I just like Denzel Washington, so I'm good with it.

I like Denzel. Yeah, yeah, I really did. I like Denzel too, but when it was a guy who was really good at soccer, we're all like, ah, fuck him. He's really good at acting, playing pretend. and we're like, you know, good choice. What's funny about this list is if I watched like one 25 second video of Messi talking about like the work he does or something, I'd be like, yeah, all right. Yeah, give me. Yeah, all right. I guess

give him the fucking medal, man. You know why that's not true. I don't think he speaks English. Oh, if he doesn't speak English, then definitely not can't get on an American team. Maybe I'm out of date. He probably does now Oh, I thought he was He's in America playing is he that yeah, he switched to the MLS like last year I think the year before it's kind of recent after the World Cup Yeah, dude, the old worn out version of Messi is in the major league soccer, just wrecking everybody. He's the best.

I saw that Caitlin Clark had some sort of stalker that they arrested. Like that's. Is that the basketball player? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I think I saw, was it like that crazy guy who was sitting in the courtroom

and like as they were reading the charges, he's like guilty as charged. He's like, yes, I stalked her and I'd do it again as soon as you release me. So Caitlin Clark is more famous than any male basketball player under 30. I heard this question asked again and again, like Like, is there anyone in the NBA under 30 as famous as Caitlin Clark? Like I could ask you, do you know Anthony Edwards? You think he's pretty good? I could think of him in the lineup.

Right? But you know, I know John Moran because there's this funny song about him pulling guns out. All right, he does. I got my gun because I'm John Moran. Shoot shoot. I'm John Moran. I don't give a fuck.

It's just like, this dude like, and then it's clips of him pulling guns out. I'm like, like, what, what about that? One guy like Giannis Papadopoulos or like some Greek name. Wemby. Why can't I think Wemby? She's more in, I think, I think I can answer this. Oh, I know him.

I hate basketball with such a fiery passion. I don't, I don't know any of those people, but I know Caitlin Clark. I could, I would recognize her in a Starbucks or whatever. If I saw her, I would recognize her. But other than the fact that they're all like six, six or taller, I wouldn't know any of those young players. I wouldn't recognize Brawny other than he looks so much like LeBron.

I probably catch on. I wouldn't recognize any of those people. I really wouldn't. I'd recognize that the white guys that yoke guy. I recognize him. Yeah, he's got a distinctive look about that guy is so funny. I don't think he can jump more than six inches. He's one of

the least athletic basketball players in the history of the game. Like I honestly think like if you like jump and with straight legs, your heels have to be more than six inches off the ground. He'd be like, I told you that over seven near seven and maybe I just and with straight legs, your heels have to be more than six inches off the ground. He'd be like, how tall is he? Over seven?

Near seven. I just read that if you're over seven feet tall, your odds of being an NBA or one in six. Yeah, for everybody else, it's like one in like six million or something. 60 million. But if you're over seven feet, it's one and six. He's probably the best basketball player on the planet right now. And he can't jump. It's pretty neat.

He just, well, what he does do, he does really well. And he has like a vision that he sees the game develop like Kretzky. What would you think if they made like dunks, like a different point amount than other things, like, like to Higher or lower? I don't know because what I want is more dunks cause it seems like, and I think I read somewhere

that there's less dunking. And then when I watch highlights on ESPN, I don't see people doing the crazy shit that they did in the nineties. Like those crazy, like windmill dunks and stuff. I don't see that too much. Yeah, maybe the mid max can support too much. I don't know. Maybe it's not cool anymore maybe our mid max and sport too much. I don't know.

Maybe either maybe it's not cool anymore. Or maybe they're just trying to get hurt. Maybe I don't know anything about the game. It's super cool to dunk. But the analytics like they moneyballed basketball. And I'm going to try to do this. Even though I suck at math now. Like if you shoot for two, then you might hit that 50% of the time. So every shot's worth one. If you shoot for three, then you hit that like 40% of the time.

So every shot's worth what, 1.2? Did I do that right? Yes. So that means that anytime you're not shooting threes, you're leaving money on the table. And they just shoot three after three after three. And how well, even like seven foot tall guys with no one in front of them

are stopping at the three point line and shooting there on a fast track. But you gotta draw more fouls on the inside though if you're shooting from the paint. Like how does that money ball out? That to me seems like the move because you're taking an easier shot and getting the and one.

Might be hard to make it when you're getting fouled, but you're right Fouls are worth a lot, too I don't know how much a foul is worth, but I bet it's worth like 1.2 Oh, yeah, I don't I hate the game, but I really do enjoy watching the players shoot the shit about from any game There's something about Like like if the NFL especially those guys are always in that helmet You don't really get to see what they're about and then you see some like defensive end That just seemed like some big brute and he starts breaking shit down on this this ridiculous level. He's like, oh, yeah

You see how his palms are flat It's this is a rush. This is like what do you mean his palms are flat? Like the way they're picking up on stuff and how smart those guys are is really surprising So I like the podcast with players talking about, reminiscing especially. I like that stuff a lot, even though I didn't give a shit when they were playing. I've gotten more into football this year, big time.

I've watched a bunch of NFL. I've liked it more. More into pro football than college? No, not more so. I watched both. It was a great Georgia year. I don't know what we ended up, but it's a good year. You know what? Oh god I'm glad I haven't talked about this yet our

Co year. So first of all you ever see rocky 3 remember rocky 3 he's about to go in there and fight clubber Lang mr. T and and there you have a scuffle but right before the fight like they're in like the the back area of the stadium and Rocky's trying to get his locker room. Mr. T's going to his but they bumped into each other and there's a scuffle and Mickey, Rocky's ancient trainer gets knocked against the wall by Mr. T and he has a heart attack and dies. That happened to our coach at the game that we lost. Your coach died?

No, his mother died. She fell over and died at the game that we lost. It's a coach died. No, his mother died. She fell over and died at the game. Our coaches did. Hmm. But she wasn't bumped by the opposing team. I hope not. Something Notre Dame bruiser linebackers. Win game.

His mom. No, no. Oh, he's teams lost in the playoffs. Oh, this is they didn't. No, no, no. Oh, the SCC teams lost in the playoffs. Oh, this is a Notre Dame loss. Yeah. Oh, dude. So he's like, duh, well, this day can't get any worse. Oh, man.

What a horrible day for football. His mom died at the game. Oh, she got knocked. And died. That's really sad. Really? His mom is the like the goat. They're the reason they lost. If she had a little more toughness to her, maybe the coach would have had his head in the game. Just saying. Well, I mean, he probably didn't know until afterwards. I think he knew until afterwards. I don't know what the timelines. He's a ruthless coach. If he turned over and saw his mom death's door and then was like next

place of blitz in this game quick Jesus that I read that I felt really bad that's yeah that does I can't believe I didn't see anything about that that's well how old is she I don't know his mom died, you know, she got crushed at the game or whatever, fell down, get mushed up. If someone died next to you at like, like if I bought and I had really good seats at like the blues game or something, and the guy next to me dies in like the middle of the first,

I'm not gonna go home. Dies of what? Just sudden death. Heart attack? Like the kind of death where like I ask him to get up when I'm like going to the bathroom in between periods and he like is already dead almost like weekend at Bernie's and I'm like, oh my gosh, this guy's dead. But then I know that if I tell an usher immediately, they're not going to let me back to my fucking seats. Wait, you're not even going to tell anybody?

Well, end of the game, because they're not gonna let me back into the courts for like, it's like an hour and a half. He's just in a diabetic coma and it could be saved. I would go like this under his nose. I'd say slurs at him. Oh, well, as long as you go like this under his nose. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. This guy died. Yeah, this guy died and also this under his nose and he and he ate his brat in popcorn by the way That's what it would be it would be the footage from TNT of you eating And you would you would look over to the dead guy and like steal his fry or something Like taking his french fries or Oh, did you see that Philly fan who got like in trouble for yelling? I didn't listen to the rant, but I saw that apparently he was in true Philly form being

very rude to an opposing fan. So the opposing fan wore Green Bay stuff to the Philly game in Philly and Her boyfriend husband fiance person is a content creator. So he went there Kind of with like provoking on his mind He said he was gonna go into the belly of the beast and root for the opposing team anyway, for some reason his girlfriend fiance would wife person Got the attention of the Philly guy. And he's screaming at her, calling her a dumb punt or something close to that.

And he's like, don't call her that. He's like, well, it's not my fault she's a dumb cunt. He's like doubling down and he's just like screaming, you know, mouth frothing kind of whatever. And everyone's like, we need to identify this fan. Even the Philly fans are like, let's identify this guy and get rid of him. And I'm like, not that I've ever done that,

but I'm like, that's how I was raised. You're supposed to protect your home court. The other team doesn't get to cheer in Philly. The other team should be in danger if they're supporting the other team. Not like real danger, but like pushed around shoulder check danger. Like that's what they're supposed to.

That's lightly assaulted. Yeah, yeah. Like, and to me, I'm like, that's sports. Like, don't do that. Don't dress as the enemy in, you know, at someone else's home court. And it's almost like this morality play for me. Like, no, no, no, we deserve home court advantage.

You can't come here, Pittsburgh, New York, Eagle, or I'm sorry, Dallas or whatever, and make this your home court. No, no, no, no, no, it's us. And they're all yelling at him and I'm like, maybe I'm the dick. Maybe you're not supposed to scream at people for wearing the wrong clothes, I don't know.

Is this the video, Kyle? Well, it's not the video, it's like what happens, the aftermath, the guy got identified and fired. Yeah, he lost his job and he's not allowed to go to games anymore and I assume he's a pretty big Phillies fan, given how he so, you know, patriotically supports his team. And you just know that the girl and the girl-

Guys, I think we should start a GoFundMe. Yeah, this guy's just a hero from Philly defending the Eagles who clearly needed it. We'll show his second grade school picture on the. This guy's being bullied by the national media for being a patriot and a Philly fan. Dude, that's so

funny. Yeah, so was he funny. You're a stave. Yeah, so was he just yelling that she was a cunt? Like how long did it go on? Was it a whole game? The video was pretty short. The video that we all saw was what, 18 seconds? Something close to that. And he called her that twice during it.

And they were coming back at him really peacefully and civilly. Like, no, they're the ones recording. Hey, don't say such unkind things. Like, I don't know what they were like as they riled him up before the video, but, or maybe he just reacted that way to the Packers uniform.

I bet he'd been drinking. Yes, but I also don't think the Packers people were there on a charm offensive when they said we're going to the belly of the beast to rile up these Philly fans, you know, rooting for the other team. Are you a real victim blamey right about now? That's what I'm getting out of this. No, I am not blaming the victim because the victim is that guy from Philly heroically supporting his team. He lost his job. You're just hating on a Patriot Kyle. I mean you

don't love America. I don't love Philly fans. They seem like the worst kinds of fans. I hope y'all lose the game badly. I hope it's like because they deserve it. Like they really are. We're moving to the next round. I mean I mean I mean I hope he wins the big game. I want you to get to the Super Bowl and lose because that hurts more. Not you. I don't know. I don't you don't care. But Philly, I'll be OK. That guy like that, you won't care at all. But that guy, that guy will care if if if that guy gets to has to watch his team

from home, go to the Super Bowl and lose painfully. That'd be beautiful. There was a couple of painful losses. Who can't remember might have been the Packers game or the it was it was the ref there was a fumble at the end and it was like oh my god there's a couple of great games. I've enjoyed the playoffs thoroughly. It wasn't the Packers game. The Eagles were pretty much in control. Yeah I've enjoyed the the the playoffs thoroughly. That's good. Yeah this is the first time I've ever really watched more than just a game here and there But it's been it's been a good season and I think I just like the NFL foot

I think there's been changes it's a different feel to the game than it used to be to me for one thing they We I don't know culturally. I hated the NFL during all that Kaepernick stuff and it seemed like every game NFL during all that Kaepernick stuff. And it just seemed like every game had a black national anthem and then, then we had like the gay national anthem. And then I hate that. And then like the rainbow, like, like, and now the rainbow warriors will sing a song. And it's like, who are the rainbows?

Oh, you don't know. They're that trans biker gang that protects kids. They're, they're going to come out and do donuts. And one national and can provide indivisible, right? Like we should all be on the same team here. This idea that like, oh, this is for the black national anthem. This is the American national anthem.

This is the gay national anthem. Like, wait, blacks and gays aren't Americans. But how is that better? Also, it's like more time. I don't even like it at the beginning of hockey games when like the blues play against the maple leafs and they do both anthems. It's like brother.

Like, let's get it moving. Is the Canadian anthem is clearly superior. It's a good anthem. I'm not going to throw shade at that. I just want the game to start because they, they blue, but the blue ball is in the corner. Is their anthem better? Ours is a battle.

I didn't say it was better. I said it was a good anthem. They have a fine anthem up there in Canada. No they don't. Canada. What's it about? What's the story? What other words? Yeah, there's some.

Oh Canada. Yeah, our home in native land. Ours is a fucking battle. True patriot love. Ours is a fucking battle. Something command. Bad ass. Ours, something, something command badass. Our ours you could play ours is great. It's beautiful.

They are great renditions of it. Every now and then I hear somebody sing it so well. Bring a tear to my eye. I always like that when you see some big football players crying because the national anthem so good. I like that. I remember one year they had some maybe where do you see this on television at football games at the NFL? I there was a country guy that sang a few years ago and they were all out there crying. Everybody was great

Hmm, you know I'm gonna tell you you don't cry at the national anthem Not regular well, it fills me with pride not with sadness. I'm a patriot. I cry I'm so full of pride that I cry You guys are nothing. I I cry and I poop myself a little bit. I love it. Sometimes I'm so overcome by emotion I vomit. I love it for myself because of my patriotism. I want to talk NBA for a second and you guys are the people I want to ask. NBA ratings have gone down. Yeah, by like a second and you guys are the people I want to ask. Okay. NBA was ratings have gone down and I've heard yeah and by like a bunch and it's not like systemic across all sports. I think the NFL has gone up, baseball's gone up and I think hockey may have gone up too. I'm not sure about UFC up. UFC is up but NBA is down. So it's not like sports are down. It's a streaming issue or something. It's specific to the NBA.

And there's a couple of theories. One is they embraced some leftist stuff too tightly during the COVID bubble. Like they'd wear maybe like, I forget, Black Lives Matter, they'd replace their name on their jersey with stuff like that. There were like a half a dozen slogans. They were all like Black Lives

and stop, don't shoot type stuff. So one is that, that there may be, they've cut off half of their viewer base by being to a blue team. One is the three point shot that, you know, every team plays the same way now to shooting from deep. I forget some of the other theories on why, oh, players changing teams too often, like, you know,

more so than football and hockey, a single player can become a franchise's identity. And, you know, when that guy moves, like, who even rooting for now? So, one is that. I just think it's, it's so inaccessible to me as an outsider looking in. Okay. Like when I see a game, it's just a blur out there. The coverage to me of that game, and it's just the way the game is. Even basketball, man, the camera works so good. I feel like, are there cameras out on the ice in hockey? Yeah, I feel like basketball's got, there's all, I feel like I'm right there with them

in basketball. Like I see the guy's face, I see him sweating, I see his tongue sticking out, and hockey, I'm just disconnected from them. Even in football, where they're also covered up like that, man, they get those cameras right in there, and I can hear the quarterback audible-ing and stuff. It feels cold when I watch a hockey game.

Like, I'm very disconnected from what's happening on the ice. It can see why basketball wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea. Like one of the things I didn't like about it before I started following it more was scoring. Like in hockey or football, when somebody scores, that's a noteworthy event. In basketball, that's gonna happen 50 times tonight.

You know, you might get 52, I get 51. This is scores, not points. But one of them doesn't seem to be a make or break like it is in the other sports. Instead, it's more of a flow type thing, you know, who's doing well lately. So I can get why that wouldn't be for everyone. But if ratings are down, I mean, that's not a new factor. I was curious if you guys were going to be like or could because the players are all black they're not all black but they're largely black maybe a lot of people aren't interested in such a black dominated

sport. That's definitely not it no all right so okay anything it's like this is the time for the white fan I bet white viewership is up I bet black viewership is down. It would be my guess. I don't know why, but the white stars, like if any of those European guys are really, yeah, there's a couple, like there's a couple of white guys who are in the top 10 best players in the world. And like, what do you think's that? Yoca guy might be the best or maybe it just is the best. Like this is the modern day. He's won MVP three out of the last four years. You got a modern Larry Bird doing his thing right now. So it's this is the time for the

white fan to be getting involved. You know, if you care about, you know, that sort of thing. But I don't know. I don't know why the viewership is down. I don't know enough about it. Okay. I just know like you can't follow. You can't know enough about it. Okay. I just know like you can't follow you can't follow basketball and hockey there. You have to pick one. It was an easy pick for me. But like if you actually want to watch games, you can't follow both or it would be. Oh, that's the other thing. The games feel inconsequential. Like there's so many games that each one is so inconsequential.

I think the more the more games there are, the less each one matters, right? You have to really enjoy just watching people play hockey now to watch a game because, oh, how many hockey games are there in a year? It's 180? I'm guessing. No, 82 for NBA and NHL. Isn't it fun that they're the exact same amount? Yeah, and they're like seasons are like almost a or 10 day overlap. I always know because it's like the Stanley cup is finishing when like the NBA finals is starting or something like that. Like it's such an overlap. It's too many games to me. Like I, that's one of the things that's cool about the NFL. I think that each one matters so much.

College even more, although the playoff system takes a little bit away from the bowls as well as that tightrope that you had to walk every year of being basically perfect and being unbeaten. Yeah, I didn't have a schedule without playoffs. Like some team would go undefeated and not make the big game and then some other team would take a loss or two. In 2000 or 2001, somewhere around that time period, USC won a national title when it was like they were like co-champs with like Oregon or something. They did some kind of crazy thing.

They were like, all right, you're number one. And it was awful, the original way that they would just vote and decide who was best. So a playoff is just so much better. It's a shame George didn't win, but I think we're going to get down to the best team. We have our quarterback. So it was probably wasn't going to go well. I forgot. Yeah.

How did your replacement play? Not good. Not good. He didn't score. Oh, okay. I don't remember the final score. Not good He didn't score Okay, I don't remember the the final score I try to scourge such things from my memory But we might not have scored a touchdown. It might have been only three points I don't really remember about because again, I tried to trying to read those try to forget I've been I've been listening to a lot of audiobooks lately and I hmm

What do you do when you listen to an audio book like like Like if you drive, what do you buy? So I've been watching Police videos. I find that the best thing because I don't need any audio so I'm watching the police chase and Because I don't have the narrator telling me that it's about to end I have no idea so I can kind of watch and it's a completely visual That it's about to end I have no idea so I can kind of watch and it's a completely visual

Stimulation and I can have my audiobook in the background with my 40k nonsense. That's been so much fun I've been that has ruined us Visual if something could just massage my dick while I do this Listening to like romantic novels. Yeah, it's Warhammer 40k fan fiction. It's just sisters in battle licking each other out and stuff. Now, I am listening to 40k novels, though. I've been pretty drawn into that for a while. What is a 40k novel?

Is this a professionally written thing or fan fiction? Yeah, so the Warhammer 40k universe is written down in a lot of different ways there are these campaign books that you buy if you play the tabletop game and within a campaign book uh like every um generation of the game i think they're on like the 10th gen now of rule sets and stuff uh maybe even later but but each one will have these campaign books and it'll not only have the new rules and stuff like that, it'll have lore written in them and it'll be like, oh, and this happened on this date and so and so and blah, blah, blah. And it'll be very like, what's the, not the Lord of the Rings, but the one with

all the bullshit in it. Harry Potter. What? No, the Tolkien. Tolkien, the Silmarillion. It'll be very Silmarillion S, where it's just like facts and dates and information in those campaign books. But then there are novels. And it's just some guy like freewheeling. No, it's it's it's all like it's not fan fiction.

It's called the Black Library, like the Games Workshop has authors and they very carefully craft what the lore called the Black Library. Like the Games Workshop has authors and they very carefully craft what the lore in the canon is. And they go back and retcon occasionally if they need to, if they need to slide a piece in between two others and it's like, oh, there's not enough room here. Just, well, this happened 50 years earlier than because it doesn't fucking matter. It's space years. But but there are novels like 12 hour audio books that are just like, and there's,

I'm on a trilogy of novels right now that just tell parts of the lore as well. So I'm reading those. And there's, I don't know how many books there are, there's hundreds. What's that? I wish somebody would marvel it. And by that, I mean, I need a 31 movie, they are, but I want them to do it as well as they did Marvel, right? Start me off slow, right? A little dip in the toe that was Iron Man 1 of the Warhammer universe, where I learn a tiny bit and think that this is something that's like,

oh, wait a minute, this is the same universe as the Space Marines? Dude, it's so cool. There's some stuff in it that's's dumb. Um, but, but, but there's so much cool shit in it. And it's full of that, like, uh, you know, the meme where it's like every man's, um, like, uh, desire to have that last stand hold out for his friends or whatever. Like, like, uh, there's tons of that of like those last heroism where everyone does

tons of heroism and self-sacrifice, but it's just so depressing most of the time and dark. But I'm reading the books where like the good side is kind of coming back around and winning again. In the lore, it's 40,000 years of lore, but most of the stuff happened around the year 30,000. And now we're currently around the year 40, 41,000. And there's new stuff happening. 41,000. They need to update the name of this universe.

They do, right? So there's like new shit happening. The sons of the emperor who all died 10,000 years ago, two of them have reawoken. And so the addition of these demi-gods to the good guys team is like a Big deal in the in the universe and in the lore and in the stories So it's that those are the stories in particular that I'm reading I'm reading I read Lionel Johnson's book and now I'm reading the like the dark Imperium trilogy with Rabuté Gilliman and it's like, you know, he's like a nine-foot

Demi God who's been brought back to life. And he's found that in this new future, he has worshiped his father was worshiped as a God. And so is he by like all of mankind, trillions of people. How they wake up doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. He was kissed by a prince. Is it a really is it a really evil way? Was it like a million souls and infuse him?

I think it was either gay or evil. We've decided that it's just nerdy and like, like long winded is all it's but, but, but, you know, they revived him. They got him back. They got him back into action. So I'm reading those books and they're really fucking good. I like that stuff a lot. Can you pay attention to audio books

after doing something else? Well, like I said, I'm watching police chase videos and if I ever catch myself daydreaming, that's what I'll actually do is I'll go into a little daydream and I'll be like, oh, whoops, I missed 30 seconds and I'll just go back. I'm pretty good about that.

My audio book retention is dog shit compared to just sitting there and reading. And I can have a TV show on in the background, I can have music on, but if I'm like actively reading, like it's gonna be 10 times more than I have like in my recall. I'm not unlike Kyle though, I'm usually doing something that makes it hard to rewind,

like riding a motorcycle, flying a paramotor or something like that. And I'll realize that I've either focused on the task at hand or I just daydreaming. And I'm like, man, I wish I could go back two and a half minutes, but can't. I sure hope there's context clues to help me figure out what I just missed.

We can piece this together. We can just. My headset has like touch. And if you like flip, if you rub it rub it you know backwards like on the thing that's 30 seconds back so you can just go flick flick flick flick flick and just like kind of go back through it so that's nice but lately I've been playing the audio just through my TV I've just been playing off audible like to my through my TV and watch your streaming device is it the TV or do you buy something else? My phone.

Oh, you stream from your phone to your TV. Yeah. I didn't consider that. I use a Roku and I was, I think it's good. Well, I mean, just for audible. I don't have audible on my Roku. My mostly listen, I genuinely mostly just play it on my phone and turn the volume up loud and sit it next to me on the couch.

That's usually how I listen. Oh, I don't, that wouldn't be for me. I'm really sensitive about how phone speakers turn the volume up loud and sit it next to me on the couch. That's usually how I listen. That wouldn't be for me. I'm really sensitive about how phone speakers don't tend to be as good as good speakers. And it's not just snobbery. It's like maybe I have some sort of sensory thing. I hate iPhone music and audio books and stuff. Yeah, it's too tinny.

I need a proper spectrum from my speakers. It doesn't bother me at all. Like there with my old Samsung phone, like if I didn't feel like putting something on the TV in my gym, I would just like open like the Opie and Anthony Lady Die saga and then just hit play on that. And like genuinely over the years, because I had that phone for I think seven plus years, like anytime you had the screen on, like it was so burned in you could see the like arrow on YouTube and you could see like where the con the comment section would be and you could like almost like you I listened to more than just ONA but like you could like see an O from like where OP and Anthony was there like and I didn't mind because it's I

it was just like all right well I don't need the audio fidelity to be perfect uh for this comedy what's up man how are you good evening gentlemen how are you oh look at this guy walking in here with perfect audio this is this is a pro's pro did you set it up off camera or is it just right because you know what you're doing somehow It just worked which is not generally the case. I am NOT a podcast and pro like you boys, so I There's been some growing pains. Oh good. I'm glad you got it sorted Taylor Don't we were talking about audiobooks tail. Don't you appreciate the voice acting in an audiobook over? Look, I get like I read I've read read a lot of book I don't know which I've done more of I did the whole Game of Thrones thing on audiobook in my car listening

like back in the day when I was locked up I went through a ton of books I like I read through thousands and thousands of pages of tons of Stephen King and a bunch of other stuff and I really like that too I don't know which one I prefer but I know that I like having voice actors aren't you read like is this, but I know that I like having voice actors. Aren't you read, like, is this weird? When I read a book and like a new character comes up, like I kind of get their vibe. Giving them a voice. And then I like impose in my own mind their voice.

You know, like that's. Yeah, I give them voices, yeah. Yeah. I like good voice acting and it's important. Sometimes I'll listen to a book, Three Body Problems is this times 10. I don't even know the characters names, but the voice actor in Three Body Problem

did such a good job. By the way, all their names were like Xi, Jia, Jing and Jiang, right? Like that's why I don't know their names. They're Chinese characters. They all start with X, I'm lost. But the guy does them so well. I know all the characters by their voices.

Having said that, the Game of Thrones voice actor, that guy who got all these awards and accolades. Roy DeTres. Most overrated voice actor in the history of audio. Oh my God, him with the haroos. Haroos. It was fun, I liked them. That dude who's dead now, I think he was like a hundred and fourteen years

old when he did those and every character he played was just a different variation of a hundred and fourteen year old dude a hundred and fourteen year old girl a hundred and fourteen year old child he he couldn't help it he sucked he was past his prime and I don't know why he got the act what helped me for those in particular was to like not think of his haroos and his nonsense as the voice itself, but to think of it as like, we're almost in the future and a wizened storyteller is regaling me with this tale and like he's a he's like handing down verbal lore and whatnot.

Cuz you're right like you'd be like, and then King Robb said in the strongest voice, charge. So the worst one I've ever experienced is Red Dragon, the the Hannibal Lecter novel, I listened to that. And the voice actor, or the narrator, whatever, I listened to that and the voice actor or the narrator, whatever. He has the most gravelly, gravelly voice you've ever heard. So what did the women sound like?

That was the problem. There's a scene where there's a husband and wife driving home and they're gonna be the victims of the killer. If you don't remember, they're gonna die. Their whole family is and the kids are in the back and they're trying to be coy about their life hitting on each other and she leans over and whispers. She leaned over and whispered I want you to put it in me hard and fast

I want it. I want it. I want your cock mark Like couldn't you have brought your wife into the room real quick and been like Something just like that you make them sound like the fucking WWE guy whatever right now I'm listening to this like like Warhammer shit and there are characters who are ghouls and goblins and just the most Disgusting monsters you can imagine they're they're rotting while they're still alive These these demons are and so this guy will give them these great like orc like voices where you can hear like slobber and like their tongue is falling into And I am cool

There's like all mouth yeah, it's all gross yeah, I like that too, that's what you want you need your demons Yes, are you an audiobook guy Ed or not. I'm generally the ones on paper, but I, uh, I've heard, I know people have told me to look into like voice acting as like a thing, but I don't know how you enter that career space. I mean, I don't, we can't all be Sam Elliott, but I just, I think it's one of these things where, you know, I had a guy come and tell stories that his dad was the voice of pork in the 90s.

Like he was like a voice actor for pork commercials, like the other white meat. And I guess it's a real thing. He made real money doing it. But, uh, yeah, I mean, to sit down and record like your book is well beyond the capacity of my, you know, post COVID drainage voice anymore. I used to try to get a good, you know anymore. No, you should try. You've got a good vocal timbre. I think the way into it is like, I was saying this the other day,

I bet you can do animation with AI now. I bet animation, you can just make your own goofy, silly cartoon. I don't know. I think a voice like Ed's that sounds really salesman-y and proper and like I'm like an announcer like like that's a that would be a funny voice and like a silly Animated type type situation. It could be very funny, dude I really hope AI gets to the point that they can animate The stories that we have that are told from like a long time ago where people don't have pictures and stuff like that

Oh, yeah, we've tried a few different things. We had a guy animate one that was like Florida man car stories of like, you know, airboat rides and punching alligators in the face. And it didn't really like help it that much. And then we had one that we used a courtroom sketch artist to recreate some of the scenes. And it was pretty good. It made for a good thumbnail and stuff like that. But but yeah, like a true A a true AI dramatic reenactment substitute

would be a real asset to the Viennese storytelling model. That'll be here before you know it. Like you'll probably wanna not, you know, storm the beach on that in the first generation cause it's like everyone's face is gonna be weird and they'll be like growing hands and the background will be all blurry. But eventually, like in the next couple of years. No, it's already here. No, it's like everyone's face is going to be weird and they'll be like growing hands and the background will be all blurry but eventually like in the

next couple years no it's already no it's it's I've seen some of that I've seen people post stuff online where it's like I took you know four days on whatever AI generator and created a story which is basically like someone getting in a spaceship and flying to a different planet and then like finding a home or something and it's like it looks way better than you would think if you just had the exposure to AI that we did a year and a half ago, but it's also at no point in watching it. Are you like, Whoa, animation, you're like, no, this is this is AI that like

weird fluidity of solid objects where it kind of like fades and then re emerges with, like that's very epic. Dude, Taylor, I think you're exceptionally good at spotting AI and you think that's normal because like I saw, it was a woman talking, it was only like 15, 18 seconds long and I could not tell it was AI. And then I go to the Reddit comments

and it was filled with people who were like, we're screwed, we're screwed, we can't tell anymore, you can't tell. And then there was one like Taylor, she was like, no, no, no, look at the like, this gap between her armpit and the whatever, the floor doesn't look like it should, it's not continuous with the floor over here. It's just one in a hundred. Well, it depends what we're talking about. So this, show this one, Zach, because this is one that like apparently fooled a lot of people online and like immediately

it was obvious that it was AI to me. Look at the corner of the shark's mouth. Look at the way it, it's like skin is shining on the way it turns. it's like skin is shining on the way it turns. I saw this and did not know it was AI. Yeah. I did too. And then I saw the other people picked it out

because it had two gills or something like that. That would probably be the smarter way to do it. But like, That doesn't look like AI to me. I wouldn't have noticed that. But what I'm talking about, like this thing that I linked is a bunch of like photo realistic AI, but like I'm just talking about doing animation.

I'm just talking about making a simple like cartoon. Like what's that new cartoon? Something and friends. Something and friends? I have no idea. What, how did you describe it? What kind of cartoon, Kyle? Oh, I know what you're saying. It's like the comedy adult swim kind of show. Yeah, I can't think of the name of it, but the animation

is so poor that it's... Happy Friends or something? Yeah, it's like Happy Friends. The animation is so poor that it's friends or something. Yeah, it's like happy friends. The animation is so poor that we could draw it. Like I could draw that animation. Many of the characters anyway. We could draw? I could draw those characters. Yeah. Where they stick figures.

Smiling friends. You might be overestimating me. Is that what you're thinking of, kind of, smiling friends? Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's called. Zach, could you show us what Smiling Friend looks like? Even if it was a still shot or something?

Yeah. That was a very fucking weird, like it was, it's very on the nose for that old style of adult swim show that I remember watching in middle school and high school where it's just disjointed. A lot of the jokes that like really hit you are just like throwaways,

like almost interspliced in transitions. Oh, this is a wildly popular cartoon. Really? Mm hmm. If you liked old school adult swim, then this is the kind of show you would like. It's why is the character in the background drawn so much better than this? Stuff like that. We're like part of the silliness is the detail to some throwaway character.

Or is that Mr. Boss? Is that what that character is? Charlie Brown is the name. He does even has the sweater. This is the Halloween episode. So he was he was Charlie Brown for Halloween. Yeah, even has the sweater. This is the Halloween episode. So he was, he was Charlie Brown for Halloween. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a, it's a guy who made it. So you do funny, a YouTuber or he was a YouTube. Yeah. Mike, Mike from red letter media has done some

voice work on this. He, he played a suicidal person who, uh, the smiling friends were there to cheer him up and the entire, he holds a revolver to his head through the whole episode. And they're like, we're here to cheer you up. He's like, okay, let's try it. But they're on a roller coaster. He's got the gun to his head. They're like eating ice cream, gun to his head. Like he's just ready to blow his own brains out

the whole episode. It's an interesting show. The whole crux of it is that two of those colorful characters work for a company that somehow makes money called the Smiling Friends. It's like Monsters Inc. But it's like the whole purpose is like the boss will be like, all right, we got a little boy who needs you to give him a smile. And then of course, they go to give the boy a smile. But it turns out it's not a young boy. It's a 46 year old man who lives at home who's woefully suicidal and they have to try and keep him from killing himself with random roller coasters and sweet treats and whatnot.

A very interesting show. I like that old adult swim vibe. It's engaging. You never know what's going to happen because everything's so disjointed. So it keeps your attention more. And because they're like 11 to 12 minute, like, you know, gumdrop, you know, snack episodes, you can just grind, grind through it. Did either of you watch old adult swim? Like any of those shows? It genuinely made me ill to watch it. Like it was a little, it was so like dirty in a weird way. I was grossed out by it. I was was just always there was that one show where there was like a pack of french fries and a soda in it I could teen hunger force. I like I hated that and what'd you hit? I could teen it was just gross like I thought the characters looked gross and like I don't know I just I really didn't like any of the adult swim stuff that I saw

It all seemed way over my head to it's it's like it was made for a 40 year old man and I was 15. I like, I didn't, it didn't make sense to me a lot of it. What about the venture bros? Did you ever watch that one? I genuinely hated it all. I like, like none of it. Yeah. Did you have some episodes of that one, but I couldn't get into it either.

It probably just was over my teenage mind, but I, uh, now the one that one, but I couldn't get into it either. It probably just was over my teenage mind. But now the one with the weekly drawn animation, where does that air? Is it on a streaming service or is it on YouTube or the smiling friends thing? Oh, that's on HBO, I think. Okay. It's somewhere like that.

It's on one of the big streaming services. I've only seen maybe half a dozen episodes. Oh, it's on Hulu. Okay. And it's. It's it's on one of the big streaming services. That's I've only seen maybe half a dozen episode It's on it's on Hulu And it's on max and it's on Amazon Prime I guess maybe have to buy it on Amazon and YouTube team damn It must be a bigger deal of a show than I really knew. Yeah, that's wild I mean just you know the way that you're seeing this kind of transition from That looks like it would be a YouTube production, right? Because it looks like something, like you said, that we could all just get

together and draw on a quiet afternoon and then use AI to animate it. But I think that the fact that it is showing up on more produced network streaming service television means that, you know, the social media quality threshold is probably making its way towards more mainstream operations Which has got to be horrifying from a production perspective that they're like these guys can get an audience With this stuff that it looks like it was a fourth grade art class project Oh, yeah, and yeah old media is dead and a lot of it is if you look at it I wonder what I

Maybe maybe you don't want to talk about this, it's probably like Friends of Friends or something, but like Car and Driver TV, that channel, I wonder how many views one of those programs gets compared to a YouTuber who's taken a Porsche out to the track and running it through its paces. I bet it's not even close, you know? That world is so different now. We see it a lot with the news. Sure, the the viewership on especially liberal news, the way MSNBC and CNN has just tanked post election. And I mean, there's half a dozen

YouTube channels that I get recommended that are just quarter million views every day, you know, recycling the same, you know, news that CNN, we were looking at the views of an MSNBC program and it was like 80,000. There was 80,000 was like the median or something, viewers for a TV program. Like it was 80,000 in their core demographic. So it's more than that, but like within It's crazy. So it's more than that, but like within whoever their core demographic is. Whoever they're building ads for. 35 to 54 year old women or whatever.

Like do you know Rachel Maddow gets paid? She makes a ton of money. I bet she's a million dollars a fucking week or something crazy like that. She used to. This show in about, shit, 2016 is almost 10 years ago, but like nine years ago, uh, like 2016 era mad-ow, she was slaying. She was bigger individually than any other show on MSNBC. She was bigger than most Fox hosts other, well, the morning and afternoon Fox hosts.

Bigger than most. You know, for a long time, like Netflix wouldn't even give stats. Did they, they, I remember hearing maybe a year or so ago that they were going to begin offering viewership statistics, but they wouldn't let anybody know. So they would theoretically allow you, if you were doing content for Netflix, to sell brand placements and product placements, but you couldn't have any evidence of whether or not

anybody saw it. And so the problem with traditional media is that even those estimates, their Nielsen ratings, they're not that accurate. Whereas social media view counts are very easy to audit. We can get some level of demographic data, and it's just such a different marketing product. The only issue that we have is that it can be hard

because a lot of the mainstream brands that have traditional ad buyers that want to be on cable television aren't prepared to buy lower view counts or single video deals or however you want to break them down from a social media perspective. It's still old headed. Yeah. It was like that with Gunstuff. It was always like that with Gunstuff. There'd be a firearm company that would spend $50,000 to be on some magazine. And it was like, how many copies of that magazine did they sell, sir? Oh, 2800. Man, but like, you don't even know. Like I can, I can, I can tweet and get you 28,000 imprints right this second from my, I can do that.

What are you talking about? This was like, uh, years ago, probably like 2018 or so. But I remember like talking to Hulu about placing ads there. And there were just like no key performance indicators that you could lean on from streaming services where you'd be like, all right, you know, if we want to do product placement in this way, like how do we, you know, measure how well it's working? Like, will you tell us exactly how many people watched it? And they're like, no. It's like, all right. So then like, what do we, and like, so our KPI will just be if serendipitously we notice an influx of sales in the region we're running this product placement or ad and it's like, what the, like this isn't, this is not the

way because like even now, like you do, you treat this with Fox news. They'll tell you to the person, like in every demo, how many people are watching, what their durations are, what other products they like, what other forms of media they consume. And so then like doing that with a company like with Hulu, because obviously Netflix has always been ad free and you know, Hulu wasn't and a lot of huge percentage of their base just pays the minimum and watches ads. And they just didn't have any performance indicators that were useful. I'm sure they're more sophisticated now because that was, you know, six years ago. No, with Hulu. Oh, I know.

They may not. I mean, it's, yeah, it's such an interesting business model where it's subscription plus ads and things like that. But you know, when I've got sponsors like a premier financial services is one they've been a sponsor for eight years now, but they also do traditional print ads and automotive magazines. They also do event placement and they have booths everywhere. And they said they don't get attribution for new leads from any of them

relative to what they get from VINWIKI because they just, you know, we are obviously massively more in terms of number of impressions, but you know, since it's in their face, it seems to convert a lot better than traditional print with like, Oh, well, I saw an ad in DuPont registry or whatever. And so it, it works. I mean, the ticket clinics, one of ours, they do billboard ads and they somehow manage to tell if that works.

But, uh, I'm sure it's, you know, Florida turnpike, uh, ads where people are getting, you know, uh, highway patrol tickets and things of that nature. But it's odd how different they find the results to be when they start to transition towards a social media advertising model relative to traditional print ads or traditional paid media. Yep.

Yeah, it's interesting to see the evolution. I know we sold $10 million worth of AA 12s to a couple foreign countries like sick like I always said countries It wasn't it wasn't Italy and France wasn't It wasn't Italy and France, was it? No, it was Jordan. It was Jordan. The king or the prince of Jordan or something like wanted his like

squad to have a 12th. And they're like, that's cool. I think they're like 50 grand each or something like that. It's like we're going to get a lot of these. Bought a bunch of them. And but I always thought that like the print made no sense with guns. Like, I mean, like why would you want being in guns and ammo cost so much money and you could you take that same amount you could be on every gun YouTube channel. Just like give them your thing and let them shoot it and give them a little money.

You get every single gun channel for what you could get guns and ammo for It's just anachronistic. What about gun shows though? Kyle? Did those work? Yeah. Oh well shot show is shot shows kind of like The mecca of that right in vegas where all the the firearms companies and and also all the influencers I mean I was always there and everybody else was always there doing big meetups and stuff and That would be a good I would go there and talk to anybody that had cool shit and try to like rub elbows with them And be like and give them my card and stuff We went to lots of shows like that and tried to like drive up dig up business like that But mostly just trying to make contacts and meet people

But but I think that those were good for those companies for sure. Because often they're looking for military contracts and police contracts and SWAT teams and police departments send reps to those shows to look at the new stuff. So they're doing great business at those. Those definitely were.

And they're always- I think it's after SEMA, right? I don't know what SEMA is. That's a car- Oh, SEMA is right? I don't know what SEMA is. That's a car. SEMA is the aftermarket products convention that was also in Vegas. And that's one that, you know, a lot of the guys that I know are finding it not worth the,

you know, 50 to $200,000 to have a booth there for the week. Oh my gosh. Which is crazy, but it's a wild time, but I haven't met anybody in the last few years going there. There's like, oh, well, this is what led to this deal that was changed. It changed my business from a buyer or a seller perspective. It seems like it's the value there is shifting because it's so easy to just DM somebody on Instagram and initiate

the same kind of conversation about putting a business relationship together. See, Shacho is really good because, like I said, every police organization and everyone who can buy the stuff that they're pimping out there will come there and check it out and then they can go out in the desert and use it. It's really good for getting big deals done like that, I think, for a lot of firearms companies. And not just firearms companies, but companies that make like 40 millimeter grenades and tasers and all that police gear type shit. All that stuff would be there. And also all the hunting stuff,

shot shows sort of split between tactical and hunting, or at least it was last time I went. And what was your content strategy in firearms? What do you mean? Did you have a channel before you did this with guns and things? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Oh, I thought it was all FPS Russia. I did, but I thought it was video games. No, no, it started as video games. Okay. And then it turned into firearms. All right, dude, I'll tell the story, even though Kyle's right here.

It started as video games and he played this Call of Duty character who was kind of a fish out of water, right? He was Russian and he was like, oh, dude, scary thing happened today. Man in brown suit came to my front door, left a box there, said nothing. I don't know what's out there. I don't know what this is. But in a Russian accent, that's hilarious hilarious as he describes the frightening UPS man. And he only played with Russian guns in game. And then he would go to the range

and oftentimes shoot these same guns in real life that he used in the game, which was like, no one was doing anything like that. Oh my God, the effort he went through to like go outside and everything was at next level. And then because that was the more popular part of the video than the Cod stuff, the like just shooting stuff,

be sure what it was about. And just, I remember he went to a lake, like I think it might've been his father's lake and just shot bullets in it. And you saw the pop, pop, pop, pop of every bullet hitting the water. And like that kind of content was mind blowing at the time. And then it just kept ramping up, ramping up

to the point where it's like blowing up a car, watermelon, a stack of toilets. Tanks and helicopters. And aircraft guns. Yeah. And it- Goodness. Did you stop 10 years ago?

Sounds right. Yeah, that's the one I got arrested. Were you the ninth largest channel on YouTube? Does that sound right? Yeah. Yep. How about that? That was kind of before my YouTube in days, but the,

so what does, how many views does the content get? Oh, I know. So what is, how many views does the content get? There's a little bit. I think he was asking how many views you get now. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. You'd have to log in. You do every show Ed comes on and say,

how are you guys doing? How are you trending? How are your metrics? And you're all like, what are these metrics you speak of? We just tell them. I don't think it's such things. Probably millions. I don't know, 10,000. Yeah, not that much. 2.2 million in the last month.

Yeah, I think a lot of that stuff gets hidden and demonetized because of the gun stuff. So YouTube's been, YouTube's so harsh on the gun stuff. So even around the time I got arrested, I was like, God, they're demonetizing stuff and they're adding liability to this. and it didn't seem like a good idea I don't know if people are able to make money doing it outside of they're like patreon's and Sponsor I don't know what else I don't know how people make money making content than other kinds of content like

Hickok 45 if you don't know, he was a teacher and he runs a really educational, like at least the videos I saw seem not very controversial. He'd tell you the history of a gun, when it was used, why it was built, and then he'll shoot it a bunch of times. And you can tell he's very competent and very safe. He has a range in his backyard. And he just loads up a pistol

and makes long shots and tells you about why this pistol was there and why it was cool back in 1877 or something. And he seems to always get demonetized, removed from YouTube, reinstated to YouTube, even though, like, if it was any other topic, if he covered tires in the same way, he wouldn't have these problems.

Yeah, it's a ton of liability as well. And I'm sure you have a little bit of that too when you're filming, you could crash a car into some shit and like it'd be, you could be, you know, there's that, who's the black guy who does all the tech reviews? Usually it's Marques Brownlee. I know he got some trouble because he was speeding in a school zone and it's been a whole big deal so just

imagine you know it's guns now so it's a whole other thing here's a clip of me just having a good time one last thing I figured we couldn't make a video with such a high-powered rifle I'm going with the, so let's get the nice big explosion. Maybe a little shrapnel going. That truck ran to. Yeah, everyone thinks that was CGI. No, he almost died. No, it's not. Oh, man, that was a good one.

Yeah, the door. Did you say how? I said, wow, that's nuts, man. That Bofor gun, the image has found its way into me Marie which is a few of them but but yeah the buffer one's a good meme uh I like the buffer meme uh but but yeah that was a good one there I I love that one and you haven't thought about returning to your 6.9 million subscriber channel? He can't. You wanted to do it with knives?

Can you have knives, Kyle? I can have... See, I can have black power weapons, Woody. Like, I could take... You know those pistols that Clint Eastwood always had? Those were black powder pistols. I knew you could have those, but could you have knives? Yeah, I can have knives.

Is there a limit on how long a knife he can have? No, there's no limit on how long a knife I can have. As long as it's dull. That was like that. Yeah, I can see how you can't have that sort of thing. But you could do like, there's got to be some content model that you could create using, you know, to that audience. I don't know the password. You can't have knives in public or your car, Kyle. It's not Bitcoin.

If you get it wrong three times, it's not going to delete them. I don't have any knives in public or in my car. Yeah, you're allowed to have them in your residence. He does. Good. He's like a fucking pirate. You need to start a I B F P S pirate. Outer pistols, knives.

Then it's on theme. We go back to video games. You don't even know. I pitched a whole FBS pirate video to like one of those pirate games back in the day. And that was the whole thing. I was like, I'll do the pirate voice. We'll get a fucking boat. We'll get cannons and then do it. We did the Assassin's Creed one though, where we did the, the, the cannons from revolutionary war. Wow. Well, I apologize for not being familiar with your note.

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he will. I always like skittish. I don't want to bother him. Have I asked for too much protein powder this time? All he ever says is like, got you bro. Yeah. I think they do like many millions of dollars worth of gross. So we probably just asked for two bottles if you want. When we, when we had that, uh, the bong sponsor, like a year or two ago, uh, I think that was also Kyle where like a lot of the sponsors were using an old address

to ship you things. And so like, whoever lived in the house Kyle used to was getting this amount. They got all that. Yeah. I have got the same amount of bongs. Actually, I've got some of this. Actually, I think-

There's so many bongs. Yes. We're gonna some of this. I think there's so many bongs. He doesn't even smoke. And he's got like, I mean, I've got it too. I'm looking at my desk. I've got some of those. And they're like really nice. They're really nice. That's a dab rig, like an electric for a marijuana concentrate, like the wax and goo that you can get that's super strong. That's like it's full self-contained. That's just a bong, a bubbler type thing. That was good stuff. What I really liked about him is, I mean, we walked through it about five.

We can teach you how, but. You can put your finger on it and you suck, I guess you suck, right? I don't think. You never blow. Let us help you. Yeah, no, never blow in it. Cause then you'll just, the bull has the weed in it,

you'll blow it out and you'll have weed all over your. So what you do, what do you like? There's going to be a cup that's got the marijuana product in it out on the end, and then you're going to suck on the other end of the pipe. And you're drawing the outside air through the burning product and you know, making the smoke that goes through the pipe, right? that goes through the pipe, right? So then once you've done that, you remove the cup that that marijuana was in, and now you breathe again, and the cold air can flush all the smoke out of the pipe into your lungs, and you completely get it all out.

That's how you use that bomb. There's no hole to use or anything like that. Super simple. You should have still got this right here. You should have found super simple. Look at this. I mean, it's cool. You slide that in there.

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That's the thing I was talking about. You didn't want to end that. There's a clip that holds the bubbler part to the part that you freeze up there. Mm hmm. Mm-hmm. Nope. Nope. You don't want to do that.

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for you to get high off of when i was i don't know five years old i learned about sex my mom explained it to me i had this crazy mixture of c-section and sex that got me really scared so even when she told me about how it was done i was like mom Will you hold my hand the first time? That she would that's what I do. I guess hold my hand the first time Some people genuinely aren't coordinated enough to do it. I had a girlfriend who couldn't do it I was I had to baby bird her like like get it in my like blow it in her mouth. Oh yeah, I've had I've had that with girls where like, I take my hit, and then I like get all the way for another hit to where I remove the bowl and then hand them like the ready go bong and then they take a hit from that. And every time it's like, this is so easy. Like it's so easy, like potheads do it. Like if they're not getting stumped. It does feel bad to be outsmarted by hundreds of millions of potheads.

There's no trick to it. It's just pretty simple. Yeah, you said like when your mom told you about sex, I'd probably mentioned this on the show before, but I remember coming back from my friend Stuart's house for like a playdate when I was like six or seven and Stuart was a couple years older than me and he had like made some comment about sex and I had no idea what that meant. And like so just in the back of a minivan I was like,

mom what's sex? Stuart was talking about this and then like she had no chill with it at all. Like I was like six and a half, maybe seven. And she just like laid it on me. What was, what was going on and what sex was. And I remember just being in the back of that van and being, and having one of those sentient moments as a young kid where you go, I'm going to remember this. You know what I mean? Like sometimes something happens in childhood where you all you like in your mind you think I will remember this. Oh yeah. And then you do remember it. And that was a lot of the times they're completely stupid moments too. The completely worthless moment. I did that. I would do that around Christmas because you know Christmas would come once a year and you'd love it so much as a kid. And I would really think about it and be like, wow, one year from now, it'll be Christmas again. And I can remember like writing down on like the

bottom of a drawer, like it's Christmas today. It'll and then like, it'll be Christmas again soon. And then going back and reading that the next year, because I could remember it and be like, that's cool. Because when you're when you're eight, that amount of time passing, like that was an eighth of your life. Like when you're when you're're eight, that amount of time passing, like that was an eighth of your life. Yeah. Like when you're, when you're a kid, a year is so long. Mm-hmm. And summer was so long too. No, summer was always short to me as a kid. Yeah.

So those two months as a kid always just melted away like so quick. Cause I would spend summers just, I don't know, just hanging out outside and fishing and hunting and just being just watching TV late every night. Yeah, just having a great time over the summer as a kid, mostly staying up late, my parents would let me stay up as late as I wanted during the summer. So I just say much TV love that. Did you remember how those are just up late? Up late? I didn't have anywhere to go. I stayed out late. I didn't have a curfew. Nowhere to go.

When I didn't have a curfew when I turned 12. And all I had to do was like check in and I would go to the boardwalk and just stay out till midnight and shit. Yeah, like you've lived in a tourist town, like full of tourist attractions. Like you've got to remember, like if I walked out of first of all, our driveway is's a quarter mile long. I'm tuckered by the time I get to the end. And then if I turn right, where am I walking to? The next town over? That's Hartwell. Okay, if I turn left, that's seven miles to the next town.

Even if you get to Hartwell, I've been there. There's nothing there. There's nothing there. There's Walmart. That's what people would do is they'd hang out at fucking Walmart. Yeah. I wanted to ask Ed,

how did your parents give you the talk about sex? Hmm. Well, I've got a 10 year old, so I'm about to have to have my own version of that soon. First, I'll circle. Which may be too late, I don't know, but he seems like it's about time. But yeah, it was, uh,

it was one of those, you know, very awkwardly introduced conversations that, you know, they're like, try to be smooth. And then it's just the most awkward evening ever. Yeah. Yeah. You know, both of them, they're both together. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that was better. No, that's like a council. It's almost like you're in trouble, but I was six. I was six and I saw some cows fucking and I was No, that's like a council. It's almost like you're in trouble, but in an uncomfortable way. I was six and I saw some cows fucking. And I was like, what's going on there? And dad's like, they're having sex.

That'll make more babies and kind of explain it. And then at the end, and it was not awkward at all because we're watching, you know, it's a cow. And at the end he goes, that's what people do too. And it was like, oh, and I think that might be like a really good way to have the talk because it wasn't awkward at all. Cause it was like farm talk or something. It's like the literal birds and bees discussion. It was literally birds and bees happening. It was like this natural thing that's going on over there. They're making some more calves. And I was, what's going on there? They're making

more calves. Now there's going to be more, there's going to be some baby calves that will come out now and it was like, Oh, that's cool. And that's what people do too. Oh, fuck. You mom did this? Mom fucked a cow. What did, uh, what did you learn from your sex talk and what are you going to do different with your son? You know what? It was very basic. It was not anything about, you know, anything beyond. about anything beyond just. Yeah, like I could just like a quarter of your screen. See that thumb.

Right. Yeah. It was, it was very, you know, this is the most vanilla sex idea ever. This is all that will ever be required of you. And, and it, you know, and it was very, it seemed like it was, and this again, is whatever, 30 years removed, but it feels like it was something

that he was not prepared for. And it was like somehow it was time. But you know, I got the job done. It's on my Wikipedia page. You can see we won a free wedding because we were they like the only couple in Georgia that was abstinent pre before marriage my wife and I and so it's a yeah so it worked how did you get a free how did your abstinence earn you a free wedding and how did you prove said abstinence to the givers of the free

wedding? It was self-professed but there was a contest out of like Rockdale county which is like the STD capital of Georgia which we live in but they had zero entrance. And so the fact that there was no, nobody entering this contest made the news. And, uh, so we had some, uh, friends and family say, Hey, y'all should enter. And I, you know, it's stupid, but we, uh, it was, it was a thing to be able to afford how much did they give you? It was like a package of like sponsored, donated things that was like

twenty five, thirty thousand dollars for this stuff. To be honest, it was so restrictive in terms of which vendors and which locations and things like that, that we ended up unaccepting it because it wasn't even the way we anybody would want to get married. And I don't think they they went down the list of they because they did end up after the after it made the news they had tons of entries but We still managed to win. But yeah, and so Yeah, I mean, I think that'll probably be the lost leader fucking wedding, huh? Right exactly

we used to sell a Ford Ranger that had no radio and the roll up windows and the rubber floor mats. Like, like it just, just you had to special order it that way. They don't, they don't make them that way. You know what I mean? Right. Didn't have a radio. We just, we just made a truck that no one would buy and we sold brand new 2005 Ford Ranger $4,000. I'm like, what? Whatever we were selling it for. It was less than 10.

And people come in like, I want that $10,000 brand new Ranger you got. And I was like, well, here it is. Well, I need tires. Well, sir, this one over here is 16,000 and it has tires. And they buy that one. 16,000, that's more than 10 in payments. buy that one 16,000 about four to 10 and payments So you haven't done the sex talk with your kids and not yet. Not yet. They're four and ten

So I think it's time on the you gotta give them more detail. You gotta tell them how to do it, right? I'm 52. I had no detail in my sex talk into this day. I'm not sure if the clitoris is real or an urban legend That's right. Who could say? Right. Like the Loch Ness Monster. But we'll see how it goes. What's real? The Loch Ness Monster, I assume. Yes. Yeah. I wish it was. That'd be cool. I wish there was a little magic in the world. That would, yeah, I feel like this 2025 got the potential to be a dark, dark year in human history. I wish we'd find Bigfoot or Nessie and just add a little magic back into the world. I think that's what we need. I think that would brighten everybody's day up. Which I know is the right trial to distract from and they'll have UFOs

again and all the other aliens and all the things. Did you ask which one's most likely to be alive, Taylor? Yes, of all those fantastical creatures, which one do you think are the most likely to be real? Loch Ness Monster, 0% chance it's a fucking lake. We would have found it. Unicorn. Dude, unicorn is way more believable than giraffe. So there's no- You know what?

No one believes it. No, no, no, no. If I told you that there was a horse with a 40 foot long neck that was spotted like a tiger, spotted like a bangle, I don't know what spotted a Jaguar leopard. Then you'd be like, that sounds like bullshit. A 40 foot tall Jaguar with a neck and whatever. But a horse with a horn, like so many things have horns. That's totally reasonable.

But they have them at the zoo. Unicorns. No. Giraffes. Giraffes. Right. I've met them just saying, if you had an open mind about this and I was trying to convince you that one of these two creatures was real, I bet you'd buy unicorn over giraffe. And giraffes are like kind of, I guess it would be a duocorn because it has those two nubs on the top that it uses to smash into other giraffes. Fuck them up. Well, and having an extra long neck does not seem like

ultimately an adaptation or an evolutionary advantage. Having a horn seems useful, right? So yeah, you're right. From a, I've never been outside before logic, I could see unicorn making more sense. But again, if we're talking about the likelihood that anything's real. Yeah.

No. But I mean, imagine you're like a Celtish guy living in the year 65 up there in the British Isles. And someone describes to you, you know, they have horses with horns. He'd be like, checks out. And he's like, also, they have horses with two little horns that are like bigger than you can imagine. And they smash powerful muscular necks into one another. You'd be like, fuck yourself. Yeah, right. Yeah. Taller than a house. I'm supposed to buy that,

a horse taller than the house. It's mostly neck. It's ridiculous. Absurd. Stop lying to me. You know, burn them alive or whatever they would do for you know, I think their eye nerves run all the way down and back up. I think I heard that. I don't know. So you're saying you think we got a better chance of Bigfoot than Nessie? Yeah, no, sure. It's just it's a it's a I mean, it's a big lake, but it's we'd find it in a fucking lake. It's a lock. First of all.

Um, let's get that straight. I could have died. They could have died. It could have. All those things existed, but none of them exist anymore is the thing. Because like a Loch Ness Monster, whatever they draw, looks just like a Plesiosaur, which is a dinosaur that used to live. There's this thing called McKelley M. Bembe and maybe the Amazon or something.

It's the idea of this small, long neck dinosaur, kind of like little foot from land before time that's been spotted there by tribes people and spoken about for a long period of time. People go in there and they look for the supposed dinosaur that might still be in the jungle alive. And then the Gigantopithecus was the real life Bigfoot that lived like 15 or 25,000 years ago. Like our ancestors would have rubbed shoulders with this gigantic ape man. And it was huge. Like they found its teeth. So they go by that, you know, and is that North America or yes.

Or where was it? I think it was definitely North America. I think that that's all they found. Yeah. I mean, that could have been my friend from high school. That's also, we talked about this. Sometimes you gotta, you gotta watch those dinosaur guys, cause they will bamboozle you into thinking something is sick when in reality they're like,

like, Hey, check out this image of this giant carnivore. And that's like, wow, that's fucking awesome. 20 feet tall, giant tail, wreck and that's like, wow, that's fucking awesome. 20 feet tall, giant tail, wreck and stuff, total dominator of the continent. And then they're like, we figured it out from half a molar and what we believe could be a femur. They've got full skeletons. And it's like, okay, well, you better be fucking sure before you get our hopes up. And then you, you rug pull us with like the velociraptor thing again. I'll never forgive them for that. So yeah, I think there's like a

smear campaign going on for dinosaur coolness right now where people are trying to say that they were fat and feathery and they were no they fucking weren't they were fat and feathery dude 10 years from now. They'll be back to being like nope. We were't fat and feathery. Dude, 10 years from now, they'll be back to being like, nope, we were actually, we had it right. Jurassic Park was dead on. Yeah. Like.

Are you team? Ed, it sounds like you're on the right side of history here. You're on team at dinosaurs rock, they're reptiles, they're scaled, they're ferocious, they wreck shit. And Kyle is on this like weird revisionist arc where he thinks they were birds. I mean, some of them were like, like, they still were like like I'm with Kyle. There's nightless birds. You ever see a chicken like like pay

attention to that motherfucker. It's clearly a little dinosaur there. Like that chicken. We just stonewalling with lies. Giraffes. Now you want me to believe in chickens. This guy I grew up on a chicken farm. Aren't I worldly?

Sorry, we don't all have that privilege. No, when you when you talk about dinosaurs as if they're at all adjacent to chickens, like they've got it's like a direct insult to my child. They're like flightless birds. Yeah, they're

let you birds don't have giant teeth. It keeps you keep having problems with the raptor. What he's talking about is how Jurassic Park was like, this is what a raptor looked like. These are raptors. And it turned out that what scientists call raptors were a smaller dinosaur that was shaped like that,

but it was a smaller, less scary dinosaur. But it's like, there's a bunch of different dinosaurs called raptor. They just add a prefix onto it, right? There's like this kind of raptor and that kind. And there was like a of different dinosaurs called Raptor. They just add a prefix on to it, right? There's like this kind of Raptor in that kind and there was like a bigger scarier Raptor That was just like the Jurassic Park fucking thing the Utah Raptor like Google Utah Raptor I'm pretty sure that was a big boy and then like the Allosaurus I always was always my favorite as a kid

The Allosaurus is like a smaller Tyrannosaurus Rex that I always thought of is like the more sporty version like I always thought of like the t-rex is like lumbering and like you could you could hide from it clearly in Jurassic Park like it won't see if you don't move but I always thought of an allosaurus is like halfway between a Raptor and a Like a t-rex There it is. It's all Raptor. There you go. Can you imagine fucking with that bad boy? Look at his look at his hands You're rid of the feathers With the feathers, I think I want one Yeah, imagine how hardcore you be with a headdress of those feathers and those claws on a necklace. Oh my gosh I'll you believe much fantasy. There were no feathered. They were scaled and they were sick

Okay, whatever you want to like fantasy you want to live in, you know, but but but I got a picture of them right here in color. This is a color bro. I got a picture of them right here in color. This is a picture, right? This is what I'm talking about man. This is Getty Images. I got a picture of them motherfuckers. It's just strange that there's like nobody has like an incentive structure to make dinosaurs seem less awesome. But it's happening. Like we're emasculating the dinosaurs.

Yes. It's a pushback because there's an incentive structure to make them awesome. If you find a bone in the ground, it is to your advantage to say, this is a never seen before dinosaur. This is the Carolina Raptor. It's bigger and better and cooler than all the other raptors.

And that makes you famous and significant. That's why every time they dig up a half a molar, they invent this background story about how amazing it was. But the truth is, it's just a flightless bird. Dude, my least favorite conspiracy theory of... The only science we're allowed to deny here is climate science, all right? We can deny whatever we want. This is science.

And I deny, I deny feathers on dinosaurs. I don't, I don't accept it because I want them to be lizards. I want them to be cool. And giraffes are fake. You know, you know the most offensive personally, the most offensive conspiracy theory to me personally are these fucking bastards out there who are like, did you know that like dinosaurs aren't even real?

It's like, fuck you. Yes, they were. They were real. They were magnificent. They were giant lizards that roamed the planet. That's the right wingers, buddy. That's the young earthers that don't believe in the dinos. Badder they believe that we lived alongside them. I don't like that one bit. And I'm sorry, I can get on board with a lot. But when we read the Bible, I just don't want to read it literally. If God says seven days, I doubt he meant seven 24 hour days.

If someone showed me definitive evidence that dinosaurs weren't real, I'd be actually upset. I'd be like, you fucking liar. Where'd you get them to sign off on this? It turned out to be some Barnum and Bailey shit. Like they invented a whole science. Steven Spielberg was in on it. Like it was a whole fucking wool over our, that would be hurtful if it turned out they weren't real. I would question everything. I was obsessed with dinosaurs as a kid. I would be devastated.

The narwhal is the one that most people are surprised. I forgot you're a snake guy. So you put your money where your mouth is on the dinosaurs. That's exactly right. I also keep an alligator. Big snakes back then have feathers. Absolutely. According to, according to revisions like Kyle. Yeah. That's right. Feathery snakes.

Is a foreign snake a good beginner snake? Do you, are you, as long as it doesn't get insanely huge, most snakes are perfectly fine. As long as it doesn't get insanely huge, most snakes are perfectly fine. I have boa constrictor, which is perfect and friendly, and the kids were playing with it today. So a lot of people go and go to a pet store and get a ball python, which are fine. They don't get huge, but they are not all that social. Not that any of them are dogs, but snakes can be a bit cat-like, that they'll tolerate you nicely. But ball python's nocturnal and doesn't really care,

and so I'm a big boa constrictor fan, and they do well, and they only get big enough that a single person can handle them. You start to get Burmese pythons, reticulated pythons, green anacondas, then you're going to have a team and nobody has time for that. Are you thinking about getting a snake? Oh, I've had a few. Yeah. I think he was wondering why I asked the question if a corn snake was a good starter. You know, I'm not that serious about it, but I go to these like conferences for people who keep saltwater fish.

Oh, yeah. And a lot of times there's overlap with the snake people and in the store is actually one of my local saltwater reef stores. Half of it is devoted to snakes. So I always wander over there and see the snakes and wonder a little. Is there, are you not interested at all in a mantis shrimp? I know it comes with its own particular challenges and it would, you'd want to keep in its own little deal though.

Like I just like the idea of a man I watched this youtuber who has a mantis shrimp and he also has this other Predatory fish and they live together and almost a I know work together personally. I know they're content. Yeah, it's good. He's like My mantis shrimp Bobby kills everything his as their land upon, but he tolerates Jimmy. I think that maybe him and Jimmy are working together because Jimmy will flush out these little fish that try to hide and kind of show. And it's like they were kind of working together to kill the dude.

A fish is thrown in there. That other fish he has, I think it's a damsel. Damsel's got like one and one and a half inches. And they will bully eight inch fish. Now you would think an eight inch fish is eight times bigger than a one inch fish. Rethink that, you know, a shark and eight inch fish probably weighs like a hundred times what a one inch fish weighs. The difference is just huge. And the little damsels bullion. So it's, I feel like that damsel is not the pushover you might think it is,

cause it's baby goldfish size, but it's actually a pretty aggressive mean fish that's perfect for it. So yeah, there's one of those at the store. They say the mantis shrimp can break the glass aquarium it's in, because they hit at, is it 200 miles an hour? Am I exaggerating how fast a mantis shrimp can break the glass aquarium it's in because they hit at, is it 200 miles an hour? Am I exaggerating?

How fast am I? I think it's fast. I think it's faster than that. They hit incredibly fast or hard or something. Holy cow. Yeah, they have this like prey mantis sort of punch they do and they don't hit with their hands. They hit with the shock wave of the water

and it has like a one and a half inch range or something. So they'll get near like a hermit crab and break its shell and eat the insides by just punching the water, which, you know, water doesn't compress. You know how that works. And it hits the shell and breaks it. And it makes a loud clicking sound like in the room. You can hear it. And the fear is they could do that to the glass. But even though everyone knows they can do it, I've never known anyone who's ever seen it happen. Okay. So it's, I don't know what's true. It's, it might be there with the female orgasm, like just a myth.

That's it. They, they. Bullshit. Until I see one, I won't buy it. So you keep, you have a big saltwater tank? I, yeah, big. So my bigger one is 150 gallons with like another 60 underneath

and the smaller one is 25. Now, how complicated is the water chemistry to maintain them? That's like the hobby to me. Like I have an automated tester that tests it four or six times a day and I watch how it's doing all the time. And my, the dosing I put into it, which is like,

I don't know, calcium chloride, sodium hydroxide, and calc-phosphor, whatever that is, magnesium, I could go on, it reacts to those test results. So if something's a little high, it backs off a bit. If something's a little low, it kicks it up a bit and keeps my chemistry in check. For me, like maintaining water chemistry is kind of the hobby.

My, like I'm chemistry, my wife, she's livestock. So she really likes all the fish and the corals and watches it like super closely. And I kind of watch the numbers and like we have a software and like it's a little website that shows us the chemistry on two different tanks. And I check those out like all the time. I have it on my phone.

And do you share water between the tanks? Does it circulate? No. As a matter of fact, right now, the bigger tank corals are dying. And I think there's like a pathogen in it or something. So we make really sure not to cross contaminate as best we can.

If we move something from one tank to the other, we dip it in, you it in some sort of medicine. Could be hydrogen peroxide, could be iodine, but we make sure that they're sanitized before they switch tanks. As your love for the hobby waxed still in it all? Or waned? When I got sick, I sort of backed off the tank a little bit

and then I re-engaged in the last 10 days or so Okay. Yeah, I uh But I I don't want fish but I think I said it last week I've been watching one of those YouTube channels where they've got like a bunch of little goats and Sheep and stuff and like I'm like a miniature like not a real farm, but like a pretend farm I kind of want a pretend farm situation. I kind of want some, and I, this other YouTuber, he's, he's been, he uses goats as pack animals.

So he's got these little, little like vests that strap onto his goats, like over their back, like, like a dog harness. And he's like got all this gear on his goats. And he's got, he's like, reason number one, why the goat is superior pack animal lightning strikes predator comes around horse will run 10 miles from you back to home goat runs straight to you they're pack animals and you are their protection like it's like it's like one short after another reason

number 37 why the goat is a horse cannot give you milk. It's like on and on. I'm like, this dude loves his goats and he's got this whole pack of goats and when he's fucking backpacks on running around in the wilderness with him. It's great. Have you seen the Florida man who's always collecting things from the swamp? Oh, yeah. Oh, does he go and like, boop the animals? Yes.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I love that guy, too. He's fearless. I like I don't want to be in that swamp at night. And he's barefoot, getting bit by everything. Right. He does. He sees he forgives the animal instantly for attacking him.

He's like, ah, don't do that now. I mean, that's yeah, that's that's a special kind of wild. I mean, most of what he's doing is obviously Python hunting and right, you know, pulling in invasive species out, which is a fascinating thing to watch. But I mean, yeah, they they all bite him always. And he doesn't care. I mean, you know, getting bit by a snake isn't the worst thing in the world as long as you know, it's non venomous. And there was one of those guys

though, that got bit by a rattlesnake the other day and like was super hospitalized. I saw it. I saw that video. The one where he's like, I just got bit by a rattlesnake and he shows the dead rattlesnake and then like they skipped forward. He's like, well, they drove me to the hospital and then they airlifted me here. I've had 15 units of antivenom but and he shows the leg and it's like, I don't think it's working. The leg is swollen and let's starting to eat. It's necrotic like, oh yeah. And um, is it starts digesting you and, and it turns your blood. Uh, Zach, see if you can find that like coagulates of what, of what rattlesnake

venom does to blood. They, they just inject some into like a thing of blood and it coagulates and rot And it's like oh my god. Oh my god. I'd rather be good. You know how this story ends Does he passed away? I think he's okay. I mean If you get bitten in extremity You know your problem you're within a hundred 100 miles of a hospital you're probably gonna be generally all right. Is it a good with most North American snakes we're not talking about you know Indian snakes. If there's rattlesnakes in your region they have antivenom at a hospital in your region

like they're gonna look up your flight away and they're gonna go yeah look at that how disgusting that's inside you now can you imagine and that oh my god the infection the sepsis the just I see I've seen people lose huge chunks of their body That's probably one of those situations where they use the maggots. Have you ever seen maggot therapy Taylor? Oh, yeah. Yes Oh, I love maggot dude. I almost wish I'd be horribly injured so I could have some I bet it tickles Oh, so for those don't, there are certain it makes total sense. It's a it's a good idea like back in the day It's like hey, you got a now they do it now You got a bunch of yeah I guess now because superior a maggot is better than even the best surgeon because a maggot's gonna be like living flesh

That's not my jam. I eat the dead flesh They're very picky the you have the gangrenous or septic type wounds where a lot of their, sometimes with frostbite even, a lot of the tissue needs to be removed, but they want to keep as much as they can keep. So they'll put these special maggots that are like medical maggots all over the wound and then wrap it and send you home. And like come in whenever, like I guess the next day and the next day they come in.

They turn to flies. They come in the next day and they change the guy's maggots. And I just remember like seeing the before and after it goes from a rotten wound to pink healthy flesh and nothing else. Like they eat every scrap of the bad. Yeah. Amazing. Dude, old time.

I saw a similar taxidermy strategy for snakes. Cause my first boa constrictor actually passed away last year of cancer, but they will let bugs eat the flesh away and pose the skeleton as a taxidermy thing. And you can kind of put it in like a shadow box. And I was like, if I thought about that, that might've been a cool thing to have with the nine foot boa constrictor. A snake skeleton is very cool.

I like when I see snake skeletons. Especially with the fangs. I wouldn't want a snake in my house otherwise, but the skeleton part would be neat. Yeah. I just don't think I could bond with a snake very well. Not only that, I remember a snake was in my uncle's house one time

and everybody made fun of him because he got the shotgun out a snake got was in my uncle's house one time and Everybody made fun of him because he got the shotgun out and blew a huge hole in the in the laundry room wall Killing the snake. He was like if he'd escaped into the wall or Into the inside of the house. I had to burn the motherfucker down. I can't cohabitate with a snake. Uh-uh And he meant it. My grandpa, my grandpa grew up in, you know, the boonies in southern Missouri with no running water as a farmer. And he told the story of his like great uncle who lived in a log cabin down there and like a raccoon.

He said it was according to his great uncle, like the, he said this was the biggest raccoon he ever did see. And it was, it was in his house, in his cabin. And he tried to grab it, throw it out the cabin and it bit the tip of his finger, plumb off. I was like, Oh my God. Like that's a, and I'm like, really? Like you saw it. He's like, yeah my God, like that's a, and I'm like, really? Like you saw it.

And he's like, yeah, I seen his finger. That was the reason you gave him a raccoon. We people used to give him shit sometimes. And he said, you ain't be giving me shit. You seen this raccoon? The size of my dogs couldn't have handled it. Like, now what do you have a question? Yeah.

If you lived by the ocean and you wanted to keep a saltwater tank in your house, could you use fresh ocean or like, you know, canal water to replenish it constantly without much maintenance? Constantly. I mean, I guess, yeah, but they do do that in Australia. But the norm, they all live by the water. The norm is for them to just buy salt water from the ocean and they test it and ship it to you. So it's that easy.

I know a guy in Florida who's a real expert. He's PhD in this stuff. And he also just uses fresh water from, he lives in like a, there's a canal, like a bay behind him. And he just takes it from back there, but it's kind of risky because sometimes, you know, you get like a concentration of not so great water and you put that in your tank and everything does poorly.

But it can be done. It can be done. Because I mean, like SeaWorld was that way, right? Like they just piped it in directly from the ocean. I assume they still do, but they don't have a water maintenance protocol necessarily. They just, I mean, they check it, but they are constantly-

No, they filter it too, but it does bring up, beg the question, am I using that correctly? Sure. That like, why do they even filter? Wouldn't it be better to just change it even more? Like you've got the ocean there. Why are you running ginormous protein skimmers and such? Right, just in and out, right?

Right, yeah. You know, in theory, it seems like it'd be cheaper to replace, I don't know, a quarter of the water daily than it would be to filter it and maintain it. Sure. But I don't know why people does it the way they do, but yeah, hobbyists do get water from the ocean in some places. I, uh, to me, that's a fun novelty. The idea of a big saltwater tank.

But I think if you like fish, you'll love a snake cause it's, you know, you can get it out and play with it. Yeah. It buys you the land. I have a fish that loves to be hand fed. That's something that's kind of cool. That play with it. Yeah. And it buys fish of the land. I have a fish that loves to be hand fed. That's something. That's kind of cool. That's pretty awesome.

Yeah. You get a sea snake. Although I don't think there are any sea snakes that aren't like unbelievably dangerous, right? Yeah. It seems like most of them are very venomous. Or at least that's what I was told. Very venomous, not very dangerous.

So very like- They're all rear fanged, they can't bite bodies. Really? Yeah. My only fish that likes to be pet is venomous, but he's really sweet. He's coaxing you into a state of relaxation. Dude, venomous fish are the best,

cause they're not- They're bright. They're not aggressive. Like I have a little easy yellow striped fish You wouldn't care but anytime someone picks on him He just faces him and he's like do you really want to do this and they're like never mind And he doesn't have to like run around and prove his superiority all the time He's like you'd want to deal with these bangs and they're like

Change my mind the the big one wouldn't get picked on probably just because of his size, but he has venom coming out of his spines, like his dorsal fin, it's pretty cool. That is cool. Yeah, I like the venom. Is it a thing that angelfish are like invading Florida reefs?

Like the ones that the spiny flowery ones that I see guys on Instagram, whatever. Lionfish are invading reefs all over the world. Yeah, they're an invasive species and everywhere I know of you're allowed to kill lionfish. They got these modified glocks they're down there popping them with a pistol. Really? Yeah. Zach, could you show a picture of a lionfish? Can you eat these Woody? Are they useful at all? You can eat them but it takes a little knowledge to deal with them

because they're venomous. And they're spiny. They don't look like a fish that you would eat. You know who eats them? The sailing LeVagabond people catch them and eat them all the time. So they're venomous, but not poisonous. Yeah, the venom is, I think it's in the spines.

You know what's worse than these is those Asian carp. Oh man, I just saw the guy's hand there. I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze on these things. And that would be so annoying with a little filet knife to get four bites of food. Well, yeah, but I think they're not that hard to catch with a. What's the harpoon gun called? Is it to spear? You know, the underwater divers would use it.

I think I think you're. yeah, I just got it right. OK, that was lucky. They've got a modified glass to where you for Woody. So anyway, I think they're easy to catch with harpoon. They're not fast swim. They just sort of sit there as stationary targets and people like to kill them and eat them. Have you seen the Asian carp situation where they are just

so Asian carp or invasive species that the Mississippi River is? Is that 90% Asian carp now? All that the Mississippi River is is that 90% Asian carp now, uh, all the other, everything else is dead. Uh, and they get, they get agitated very easily. So if a boat is in the water, they jump out of the water in mass and they can weigh like 60 fucking pounds. So people have died. People get hit regularly. There's talk. The boats there have these big cages around them like Coke cages in the Ukrainian war, but for Asian carp. And so in response, all sorts of,

I've seen people shoot them with shotguns. They go out there with, and they're blowing them up with shotguns in the air. I've seen people shoot them with bows, and they're trying to keep them out of the Great Lakes. So there's this lock system that connects the Great Lakes to the Mississippi, and they have it electrified. They have...

Really? Yeah, and the barges and stuff, with people in them, have to pass through these electrified locks. And it's like, everyone has to go inside the boat. No one can be on the outside of the boat, because if you fall in, it'll kill you. And what else were they doing? They had sound barriers, electricity, and what else were they doing? They had oh they had like sound barriers electric, uh electricity and uh something else

Oh, so they're looking into co2 like like all sorts of things just to like not allow one single asian cart get into the great lakes and i'm thinking like Some piece of shit's gonna gonna throw some asian carp in the great lakes to be a piece of shit Like like that. There's some chinese guy over here right now, starting fires in California and throw an Asian car by the bundle. I bring them down, sir. Oh, re.

All right. We just called him cop. In my country, they are just caught. Are they good to eat Asian? No, I apparently they're very you. They're fine to eat, but I guess they're very bony And so it's a pain in the ass to fillet them compared to a lot of fish. Hmm, but um, I All this talk about the Mississippi being full of Asian carp

Reminds me of that meme story where Missouri has one shark attack on record of someone was swimming in the Mississippi and got fucked up by a bull shark that had just like, I guess, made its way. That like bull shark are like, that's the jaw story. They went into, they went inland into New Jersey through those brackish waters and channels and they were very far inland. Like when the jaws shark, they shark attack happened in Jersey. It was crazy how far in there bull sharks in particular can tolerate very brackish on bordering upon freshwater.

Yeah. They're like the utilitarian fish. They can survive and more. But it's not Louisiana, Mississippi. Like that's north a bit. That must be. Oh, yeah. Freshly freshwater by there. I have no idea how that worked, but I know if you look at like shark

attacks by state, it's like Florida over 500, California over 500. And then it's like how the fuck does Missouri a shade of light pink like states upon states between us in every direction like you literally have to go to the zoo and jump in a tank in Missouri but I guess not I guess some poor little kid got got fucked up and that video there they're shooting Asian carp with the 12 gauge shotguns out of their boat. Because again, the motorboat agitates the fish

and they just leap out of the water like crazy. And there's, again, there's millions of them, millions of them. It's crazy. Yeah, he is not making a dent in this fish population with this gun. No, no. I watched a video, I got like into animal

YouTube again, which sometimes takes me down through interesting paths. And it was like about a global wars between different types of ants and colonies and how they succeed. And like, it showed where they had strongholds. And apparently what that tiny little annoying type of ant that was originally from it's called the Argentine ant and it got moved around all over the world through shipping lanes and whatnot and even though it's like smaller than like fire ants and a lot of things like that they're just like they're like the zerg and Starcraft or like, or they're like goblins in Lord

of the Rings. Like, oh, okay. Yeah. We suck relatively in battle against these leaf cutter ants, but every time they bring one guy, we bring 3000 guys. And they're the ants where like, you can see the big ants getting their limbs pulled off by all of them in different directions. And it was explaining how like originally the way it worked was there were huge battles in Argentina between these different ants because they have multiple queens. And so they would go out, whereas a lot of ants only have one queen per hive. And so they would spread out a little bit, but then over time, their genetic diversity would change so much that they wouldn't even recognize the other colonies as the same species.

And so they'd have like civil wars, basically. But it only took a few queens initially to like France or whatnot. And so there wasn't enough genetic diversity there for them to ever identify that they were enemies. And so it was just like a constant, enormous expanding swarm of these ants who were just destroying all the bug lives. Did you say what they're called? The Argentine ants, right?

Crazy ants. They're called crazy ants. And they have evolved this ability. They secrete this acid, formic acid or something. And I know fire ants. They're called Argentine ants, the crazy ants. Crazy ants are from Argentina. Like Google, where are the crazy ants from?

Okay, fine. So they released this acid that neutralizes fire ant venom and they rub it all over themselves and create a chemical armor that protects them from the fire ants, making them basically immune to anything the fire ant can do to them. And then they just fuck the fire ants up. It's great. You're in Georgia also, right? Yep.

So we are actually all in a territory where the Argentine ant has been largely pushed back or like not totally dominating because the fire ants are winning the battle, seemingly, in our region from Missouri to Georgia to North Carolina. I'm an ant fire ant. I'm also an ant fire ant. I'm full team crazy ant because they bite you. So yeah. We have these hammerhead worms that are a new invasive thing.

I've seen a few of them around the house which is wild but they're like this super gooey long worm oh my I don't know what they're called but they're like everything I read is like you cannot kill them like you can cut them into a million pieces and that's how many there will be but there is some kind of new invasive worm that is coming around Georgia. Yikes. Interesting. Let's see.

That's it. Oh no. It's that thing from fucking Alien. Oh no. I hate that. They're here. I would see its mouth. I bet it's got some sort of lamprey, fucking disgusting mouth parts.

Pallium. You know what else is when I was a kid in Georgia there were no armadillos. Yes, there were none. When I was a kid there were none. That's right and now they're all over the place. All only dead. I've never seen a live one in Georgia but they are dead on every highway. Yeah, my experience with it, I remember the first time I saw an armadillo I was 18 and there was a motorcycle rally like an hour south of Athens and we drove down there because we thought we were going to see some titties and we ended up seeing a lot of penis and we came back home. But on the way back home, I saw an armadillo

running across the road for the first time and I thought I'd seen a guy, I was like, is that an armadillo? And we slam on the brakes, jump out of the truck and start chasing this bitch through the woods trying to catch it by hand. It got away. But they've been definitely migrating north because I've seen them in Athens. Like I've seen them here. Not that we're a northern state here, but like we're further north than you guys. Like we're not Texas.

Yeah. They shouldn't be in Missouri. That's fucking ridiculous. And they're only ever dead. I've never seen a living armadillo. All they do is, is invade and then get fucked up by like civics. I, we were in a Texas and we saw an armadillo and it rolled up in a ball and dude, this was when he went, got them armored shells, take a hell of a punch, knock three, one of them. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude?

It's armored as far as animal skin goes Armor right there. It's like a bullet wouldn't and I I've got a fucking 308 AR I'm like like I'm armed. I'm like dude. So would you like to make an enormous bet on this? I Want to do what I do a like like plus or minus 80 fire at deaths in the U.S. per year. Start thinking about that one. And so I vaporized this fucking armadillo with my rifle. And I was like, man, that armor didn't work. He was genuinely thought he was like bullet to bounce off.

I heard one time a guy shot one with this bullet bounced off, killed another fellow. He's telling me this bullshit. We're out in Texas and I'm standing there like. The armadillo was just sitting there minding his business atop of this thick steel plate. Armadillo. And then I shot him and it ricocheted off. Sure it wasn't a steel plate.

Plus or minus 80 deaths per year in the US. Last time I tussled with you in these weird obscure bets, I owed you a steam engine and you still haven't put it together. And so I'm going to say, I bet it's 250. There's just no way going high. I mean, you would be anaphylaxis is a powerful me. But also like I see what you're saying, but I don't know how many would need to bite you to do that. You'd have to really fuck up and stuff. 80 deaths.

It doesn't have to be an adult to be a human death. If you step on a mountain and you don't know it, you'll be stung 15 times easily before you can stop it. I'm gonna say 112. I am gonna say 76 total. And Ed said like 250. So he busted. Oh man. He picked a strategic. I actually, you know, I was closest. So yeah, it's really, they call it. So if you go ahead and shoot that engine on back,

Lame death. No, sorry. Anyone out there who lost a loved one to the fire and attack. But man, that's a lame way to go. That's embarrassing. We ever around someone granddad died. Fire ants. A friend of mine, like stepped in a fire and nest or hive or whatever you would call it colony. And he got bit a lot and he was crying a lot, but we were also six.

And so I thought, oh, OK, I thought he was like kind lot but we were also six and so I thought oh I thought he was like kind of being a whiner about it but I also I respected the fire ants distance then I'm like all right I'm not gonna I'm not going near these guys imagine they would be like a level of pain that was similar to a bee sting but I imagine it's way less than that no it's it's not that bad I mean I mean you're annoyed but it's not a bee sting. I don't be stings hurt. I'm not being forever. We see it.

But isn't it variable? Doesn't your sensitivity to the venom impact the pain that you experience? Like poison ivy, poison oak sort of stuff? I think their venom doesn't make sense. I think your venom is like a sedic acid or something like that. It's something Bernie. Sick. Right. Alpha Woody putting his together. That's what I sent Kyle. It's just sitting under his fucking sink. I took it out from under the sink. It's sitting on my chest. I wouldn't know how to use it.

I think it's called a sterling engine. And my wife, the moment it came, I was like, honey, this is for you. And she's like, I saw it in the Amazon cart. I knew it was a sterling. He outsources assembly and you're giving him props. I mean, they're a team. And so he gets to steal a little dollar.

That's cool. Sterling. Yeah, look at that. It is cool. It's really pumping. Yeah, not creating a lot of energy. Creating a lot of power rather than power. The house.

No, no. Yeah, it's not going to charge you. I don't think I touch it. I touched't know. Yeah, it's not going to charge you. I don't think I touch it. I touched the candle. It was the Bernie part. Are armadillos causing problems though? Are they just dying in mass? I've never heard of anybody.

Oh man, I can't believe that armadillo created bad outcome in my life. Like these are causing problems. these ants are causing problems. Those carp are causing problems. But armadillo is like, even though I think of it as like an Arizona kind of animal. It's sexist Florida. One in six carry leprosy. Yeah, but they're like immune to it.

So like just don't get bit by one and you're good. What do you mean? Are there cases of human contracted leprosy from armadillo interaction? Yes. I don't know the answer to that, but I was warned so profusely after I grabbed one in Texas that I assumed that there must be indeed. Yeah. I chased him down and he went in, this is the second time I chased an armadillo and he tried to go into his burrow and I grabbed him by his back legs and I had his legs, but I felt like if I pulled hard enough to get him out, it would hurt him So I'll let him go. I

Don't care what you say Kyle. That's cool engine I picked it out. I Think it's cool. I'm just not much never gonna put it together though Spitefully keep it exact so we can get let's just like you never read those books I sent you never read them you sent those on your own regard that that's on you. Okay, you said when I said I read it I Didn't care if you read it or not. It was it was more of a look-at book than a read book I've sent you a couple books But look you sent me the Stormlight archive like I'm supposed to get into a 15 book series

That I'm not interested in about magic and space wizards and shit. I got my own sci-fi universes to handle. I don't need you guys silly universe that you both gave up on. You both gave up on it. That's true. He lost the plot in like the fourth book. It wasn't as good. And now the fifth book came out and I'm really not that motivated to read it. I learned my chat before I got sick and I was streaming all the time, which I'm going to start again, said that the fifth book turned it around

and that it is amongst the top two or three of the books. Well, it is on my coffee table, so I'll have to actually get back into it. Oh, I'm interested in your review. Because chat, not the most reliable source for information. No. What did you think of the 40K novel that I sent you? The Krieg one.

Yeah. I thought it was good. There was a lot of action. I often found myself like feeling sad for the the men of the the the warriors of Krieg. Of course, because it's like, man, these guys have like gotten a raw deal. Clearly, they got a raw deal. And now they're like expected to fight for the Imperium. But really the book you gave me was more like the inner workings of their society and like from their perspective. And it just seemed dismal. It's like they're wearing gas masks 24 seven because everything is so poisonous. Like there's no quality of life. They're almost eager for death because like almost like a Viking Valhalla thing

where they're like please just can one of these goblin bullets just take me out so I don't have to live this horrid existence. The story is this, this planet, half of it sort of rebelled and half of it wanted to stay with the emperor of mankind, the good side, and half of it wanted to rebel and the Civil War ruined the planet. In the end, the Imperial loyalists won out, but the resulting war and the weapons that were used ruined their planet in a way that it's never going to recover from. So they have no agriculture, they have no mining,

all they have are the children of Crete to pay back the balance that they owe the Imperium of Man. And they give and they give and they give. And they are a cult, the entire planet is a cult for the Imperium of Man. And they give and they give and they give. And they are a cult. The entire planet is a cult for the Imperium, essentially. And so every child is born, goes into the military. They're all soldiers of Krieg, and they're very World War I gas, mass trench coat and shovel looking. And when you read the book, you find out how they get so many because when they finally there's this part in the book where they've been out of contact with Earth for like

thousands of years or something and the Earthlings are like hey, we got a message from Vrat from Creek Creek they They say they're they're good to go again, and they've got some soldiers for us. How many do they have? It's like 20 million. What do you mean 20 million? They've got 20 million, 10 more million on the way. They want to serve the emperor. They asked for one, they made one request. They want to be sent to the most hazardous fights. The worst fighting, the most dangerous battles. And so like the soldiers of Craig literally do want to die because in dying for the Emperor, they pay back that what they owe for that for that betrayal.

And so they are the most they're just regular men, by the way. They're not like superheroes or jacked up guys. They're just dudes. And they're the most pretty jacked up of them, of the like infantry in the in the 40K universe, they're they're kind of top top tier and fans love them because of the aesthetic and you know how hardcore they are There's some one I was watching a great animation the other day and like one of the Kriegsman is like burning alive as he crawls To like the the switch to like blow up all the bad guys like that's very Krieg

You know just like loving that you're burning alive so you could crawl and blow everybody up. It's great Mmm yearning for death. It's a good book too. The book really focuses just on the Kreeg. I like that one. A lot of battle scenes in that book. You don't like that? It would be like, no, no, no, it was just funny

where it would be like, cause I, you know, dialogue is what I enjoy the most, the character development and the intrigue, but the Kreeg book, it's like, man, these guys are really straightforward. And it's like, all right, here's two pages of dialogue and then another chapter of them like fucking up bad guys or, but they're almost kind of the bad guys,

even within the Imperium. Even though I'm from, that's the only book I've read of the 40K universe. Obviously I'm team human, hardcore team human, team Imperium. All these aliens can get fucked. Humanity's time to shine. Racism is a huge part of it. And not about like color of people. It's about hating everything that isn't humanity.

Yeah, it's about speciesism. Like the hatred for the Xenos, the alien, is part of the religion. It's one of the commandments. It's the fucking mutants, the abhumans, the xenoscum. The heretics. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. They're part of the Imperium, the human side.

Yeah, there's a million worlds of humanity at this point and they're all separated throughout the galaxy. And the humans are the good guys, if you're human. There are no good guys. If you're human, there's a good guy. Just like the xenomorphs. If you're a good guy, yeah, of course I'm human. I want us to win. They're pretty awful to each other. They're like, the humans are bullying this planet. It's like boo hoo. I don't care about these mantis people.

No, what's right is what's good for humanity. No, but I like the fight scenes. I like the super powered humans. I like all that shit. And I love how dark it is and how awful it is and how most like the characters just die left and right. These terrible deaths sometimes. It's a, I like, I like the YouTubers that do the lore. But now that I've discovered some of these novels, I'm kind of sucked into it Henry Cavill is supposedly still making that big project with Amazon in the Warhammer 40k universe. I expect it to be Like a TV show with you know, 10 or 12 episodes set in the Warhammer 40k universe, but that's all anybody knows nobody knows like Who he's gonna play or what part of the end, and the people that know even as much as I know about the lore

or like, how do you tell that story in 10 episodes? Like, where do you start? You'd have to start at like some little... You'd have to tell a little microcosm of a story. Yeah. You'd have to tell a whole universe, right? Just 31 movies. Yeah.

31? Is that really the number? Is it 31? 31 sounds about right. Yeah. Is that really the number? Is it 31? 31 sounds about right. You know, just my finger on the pulse for the Marvel Universe is solely you guys. And based on how much less you guys have referenced, talked about Marvel over the past couple years now, I think that's over as far as its immense popularity. It's got one less. The last gasp of the Marvel universe is going to be Dr. Doom. Dr. Doom's going to make a billion dollars at least. It's going to be a huge, it's going to be one of the biggest movies of this year. It's going to be like top three this year, biggest movies, Dr. Doom,

The Return of Robert Downey Jr. in that role. If they do a good job of that then that can be the tent pole that they hang a new Like like go at this set but they they got a they got to have good characters behind these roles I know the new Captain America is you know, it's the black guys the new Captain America He has been for a while but he's finally getting his standalone movie and they've done like two rounds of reshoots and Audiences keep not liking it. It's like Well, you mean they change something about earlier with and audiences keep not liking it. It's like, wait, you mean they changed the character they're familiar with and they didn't like it?

It happens in the comics. It happens. But I heard something about the Dr. Doom movie and it was just that they were starting it slow. Like they're not trying to make another end game. They're trying to make another Iron Man one. Yeah, yeah. It ramps up into a be new universe, which is interesting.

I don't know if the audience has the appetite for Iron Man 1. They just wanted to get better and better every time. We'll see if they're interested in a reboot. But I have a question for Ed. So I watch your channel and you take regular people who have done interesting car things and you help them tell a story.

They're not professional storytellers like you are, so you help them along. Have you ever, like, I don't know, hit the editing room and been like, you know what, this guy just sucks. This guy, I don't know the word for verbally illiterate, but that's what he is. And there's no way to cut this up into something that I'm willing to upload some people just can't speak does that happen yes absolutely now we have a lot of edits in a normal story so you know we find that like eight to twelve minutes is kind of a sweet spot for a

YouTube story you know type clip or whatever you'd call it. When we started, that was the whole video. But like now people take podcasts and trim them down into 10 minute segments and make their own things. And so, you know, singular concept YouTube video, 10, 12 minutes is really the sweet spot. And so, you know, generally we're going to have dozens of cuts in a 10 minute video. And so what the procedure is generally like, tell me what happened and then let me, and then let's build the right intro to establish the sufficient context for it all to make sense. And then let's try to wrap it up with a better outro that like offers some lesson for the audience and builds a story into something coherent.

But yes, there are plenty of times where I'm like, man, this guy's story would be so, so good if he could just tell it. And it happens, of course. Can you be more charismatic, sir? How do you rob a jewelry store? I mean, we see you intro this really fascinating thing and you didn't allow a pause there for the audience to ruminate. Can you do that? Well, we can edit in the pause. Like we can, we can work on timing, but we can't make the, all the

words. Um, and that's why the notion of like AI animation would give me more coverage to be able to edit more, and potentially even get to the point where I can just use their voice and I can create phrases that bridge gaps that I need. There is some excitement about AI integration with storytelling from a presentation to a virtual audience perspective rather than just standing in a bar or whatever. But it is a thing for sure. The perfect example is there's a car

that called the Cocaine Hammer. In the 80s there were, and early 90s, there were AMG modified 300 CE cars that are called Hammers and they were the fastest cars in the world at the time. And they lived a long time of being not terribly valuable. And so these cars transacted for like, you know, 8,000, 10,000, $20,000. And they're now worth about a million dollars each. There's about 30 of them that are like canonically hammers.

And that's a long story for another day. But we had a sponsor that was an auction company that was selling one of them. And they could not compose the story of this car. And I sat over in my chair, which is on the other side of this room, behind the camera, listening to this over and over over again and it just really couldn't come together. And finally I just went like while they were talking I opened my computer went on their website bid on the car knowing that I wasn't going

to bid remotely enough to end up owning it and I was just like all right you sit here I'm going to sit there and I'm going to tell the story as the high bidder of the guy that found this car for sale. And I can compose the story of this guy who bought this more than a Lamborghini Countach, modified Mercedes and Beverly Hills. And the first thing he did was stuff it full of drugs and drive as fast as he could to Vegas. And he was going so fast that he didn't actually realize it was being pursued by a whole fleet of police cars. So he pulls into

here give it for give it to me I'll do it do it was it circus circus I think and and they they all just swarmed him tackled him and they seized the car and they used it as a cop car for like a year and then they sold it to a professional baseball player. So the car is this crazy good story but they just couldn't get it out and so sometimes we can but yep, that's the cocaine hammer right there. Rare is a two door. They're almost all four doors, but, uh, that sucks.

Yeah. And so it worked out great. It ended up directing enough traffic to their auction that it sold for a record price. And so everybody was happy, but there are some of those. Um, I've got a guy come in that I have that fear because he in terms of experience, he should be the greatest car storyteller of all time. But he's not a very good storyteller in the limited

experience that I have. He's the guy who fraudulently drove a Bugatti into the Galveston Bay, blaming it as an insurance fraud strategy. And he wants to come tell stories, but he also continuously believes somebody is going to pay him for the movie rights to his life, which makes him less interested. But he, yeah, so I worry sometimes. I had one guy, he has a restoration shop in Connecticut, and he has the best stories ever. But it's like a Jersey Shore character telling a car story and it doesn't like work. I mean, not working though, huh? He just isn't telling him in a compelling way. Right. Yeah. Super interesting car. Super interesting context. His attachment is appropriate. Like he's the guy that tells the story.

It's just not his style. How much do you do to set them up for success? Or have you ever thought about doing more like giving them bullet points or outline? The problem is if you tell them to outline or you tell them to really plan, it'll always be robotic and terrible. And so the best thing is to pour them some Vin whiskey and let it kind of happen. There's a very sweet spot of inebriation. I think Rogan's done that too.

Like he'll often get his people hired. Vin whiskey, check it out folks. Yeah, Vin whiskey. You gotta see it. Yeah, Rogan does that too. He feels like he can get better content by lubing up. I think you said like the weed part. I would, if I were trying to get a good story out of someone, I would be like, don't touch the weed.

No, don't even think about smoking weed right now. Let's get you a couple shots or beers or whatever is your like social lubricant of choice. Because at least me personally, like, if it was like, all right, Taylor, you have to tell this story. Take a giant hit of weed. I'd like it'd be in the middle of the story.

And I would be thinking that I said the previous sentence weird and it would throw me off because I'd be like, and then I told them fuck you. And then like in my head, I'd be like, did you say that in a weird voice? Did you say fuck you? Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. And it's like not, it wouldn't,

weed is not good for storytellers, alcohol is. You went on the show once. I did Death by Gumming. Who by the way is fucking me over? I tried to buy from them and they're not sending me shit and they're like, have you considered going to pound sand and I'm like you like you we can see it it's not delivered. Yeah, like yeah, fuck yourself. And so I'm trying I'm calling them now like

trying to talk to a human instead of the email but death by gummy avoid them at all costs. They're fucking crooks. But there you go. And write them an email, let them know why'd you fuck what do you send them one. Yeah, we definitely terrible for storytelling. I was telling the story. Occasionally, somebody will show up and say, man, I spoke to joint. I'm like, I'm right, right there ready to do it. I'm like, this will be terrible. Just finished my story. Taylor said,

I'm sure that made sense to you. And I was like, yeah, you guys can carry the show. Oh, yeah, dude, weed for doing a talk show is the worst. Like, the only person worse to talk to The only person worse to talk to than a guy on a show at least who's like really fucking high on weed is someone who's just yacked out on cocaine Because they also are talking in a way that only makes sense to them and it can be like short-term entertaining But if you've ever been around someone who's like fucking really yacked out on coke. It's annoying as shit. They just they're reiterating constantly. They're not hitting punchy times in their story. They're just, you know, they're telling it. They're going through a mental list of things they want to say as rapidly as possible because they feel that every thought is fleeting

and that something else might take its space in the next second or two. So yeah, if you want stories, you're on the money. Give them a little Vin whiskey. Get them not too drunk, just in the right. Right. Yeah. There's a sweet spot. It can get real real clean. Cocaine? I've never done it. I don't know. No, cocaine is bad. Yeah. If you've ever been around people who are really doing a lot of coke, they are, it's the meme is 100% true. They're like gassing each other up and talking about prospective business ideas that don't make any sense.

It's like no one wants DoorDash for pets, you fucking idiot. Like stop it. You're real verbal though, right? Do they get motor mouthy? They are, but they get motor mouthy and it's not, maybe I have a bad experience with it. Like, have you, Kyle, have you been around people doing a bunch of coke and do you have

that same experience of it's kind of obnoxious? Yeah. Anytime someone's on like Adderall or uppers in general, it's really obnoxious. But I feel that way about alcohol. Some of, nothing upsets me more than trying to talk to a drunk person. Really drunk person really Especially fucking girl who's prettier than who's not as pretty as she thinks she is and she's fucking drunk Oh, I thought I would rather like do anything than listen to that person talk one more slurred disgusting word I I hate that

More than anything so I think I'd rather talk to a coked up person than like a sloppy drunk person like a little a little loosened up and inebriated is fine But like a sloppy drunk person if you're sober a sloppy drunk person is so obnoxious So then that's fair like and there is a big difference between you know Ed getting somebody like a couple Vin whiskies and someone who's sloshed like right? Oh, yeah, it's not finishing their story. Well, and but a funny guy can be funny when he sloshed like that's that I'm talking about an unfunny. This person wasn't going to tell you a good story sober.

Like I'm just saying I don't like talking to drunk people. It's annoying. They get loud. I don't like it when they touch me. Like their arm around me and it's like, you put your arm around my shoulders, prepare to get thrown. Like I don't do that. That's not, that's not a thing you can do to me. You can't fucking alpha me and wrap your arms around my neck or whatever. Like that. I don't like that. Oh, I don't, I don't think that a drunk person doing that would be trying to alpha. I would think that they're like, well, clearly I'm not going to make a connection with you verbally, but if I get close to you, we can be physical kind of fries.

I'm so very much opposed to that. Here's my question, Taylor. All right. From a cocaine perspective, because I have not tried it either. Me neither. But I am fundamentally a pretty introverted person. Like I can drive across the country with no radio in my silence and love every second of it.

But when I, and I consider myself for the interest that I have to be exactly the right amount of famous, where if I go through the airport, two people are gonna say, hey, are you Ed from Benwiki? And that's awesome. And it's pleasant.

If I'm at a car show, it's all of them. And it's like, we all wanna, right now I wanna tell you my best car story and I will not stop until I get to the punchline. And that's also cool because like it's stuff that I like and I can but at the end of like spending a day at a car show I need to like be in a dark room by myself like have a have some time to recover. Not that I didn't enjoy it that that I don't appreciate it because I do, but I think that's what cocaine is for. Oh, I don't think of cocaine as like a decompression drug.

Like I've done it to tolerate the audience. Like I could really just like lean into being around a hundred people telling me I'm the coolest person on earth as long as like rock stars, I assume do that so they can stand on a stage with 30,000 people screaming at them. Is that real? Yeah, I've definitely been around and it depends how it hits you. Like, I've done coke enough. I've tried it enough times in my life that if I were going to enjoy it, I would have and I never did. Like'm already high, strong, and neurotic enough. I only like weed. I like downers. Even in the weed world, I always at the dispensary,

I'm like, don't show me any sativas, not even any hybrid leaning sativa, just the indica, just the downer, end of the night thing. But like, I've seen people get what you're saying, like, or behave the way you're saying, where like they do cocaine and they're like, hyper social, they are gregarious, they're having a fun time enjoying themselves. And then, you know, five minutes later, they're, they're like desperate with friends to do more cocaine. And so like, that's where the Coke train ends is like, if you've been around people who are really, you know, doing a lot of lines, like they'll be normal or normal. I mean, high on cocaine for like 20 minutes.

And then it's like, this is the truth. Most of the conversation you're going to hear around people doing cocaine is how they can possibly find more cocaine at this hour. For the vast majority of it, like for every business idea that takes a minute, it's five minutes of them being like, dude, this was supposed to last us like the whole fucking night. Do you think Ben is going to respond to us this time of night? Hit him on Snapchat. I'm going to hit him.

I have no idea. I've never bought it. I have no idea. Okay. I've never bought it. I've been around people who have it and you know, it went in Rome and, but like, I've never wanted more. Having just heard you say you have no idea. I feel like I have no idea and you have some idea.

I know it's more expensive than weed. 75 bucks a gram. Really? 75 bucks, a hundred bucks a gram. But like 75 bucks, 100 bucks a gram. But like my level of knowledge for Coke is so low that like I don't even know how many lines a gram is. Isn't it inflation proof? Isn't that a thing that there's never an increase

in price of cocaine? Apparently you can tell if you've gotten bad cocaine because you're gonna have to take a shit badly because they cut it with baby laxative. Yeah. So if you like are doing a big shout, big PSA to everybody out there, if you're doing cocaine and you have to poop,

you're snorting baby laxative. Think about how much baby laxative you would have to snort, pure baby laxative to get diarrhea. I'm thinking this might be an urban legend. Cause just think about it. You don't put it in a baby's nose? If I told you, Taylor, you have to snort

as much pure baby laxative. I wouldn't want to do it. Until you get diarrhea. You'd be making line after line. You'd be like, I don't know. I just don't, not feeling anything. Like there's no way that's true. That's just what I've heard.

And it's possible. You had it just boost out in my head, yeah. Yeah, it's possible that's wrong. But you don't give it to the baby in the nose Yes My kids gonna be cool, dude There's a reason they don't give you cocaine pills or syrup Because it only works if it goes to your brain, right? Yeah. Oh no, you can eat it.

You can eat it. You rub it. You can rub it on your gums. You do whatever you want with cocaine. It's a hell of a drug. You can inject it. I've heard that. It's a hell of a drug.

It is. Yeah. Wow. I've never enjoyed cocaine. I thought it was like wheat compared to Adderall, which I can get a prescription from my doctor for, and they'll give me a whole bottle of amphetamine salts. I think cocaine is the most overrated drug on earth. So at least of what I've tried, it's far and away, which I'm not like a

connoisseur, there's a ton I haven't done. Oversold the scariness of it. Cause as a child in like elementary school, they made cocaine sound like it was probably the big whopper of evil drugs. Now it's all meth and what's the other one? Meth and? Fentanyl. Of opium, or like opiates?

I think opium is the other one I was searching for. Like the opiate family and the meth family, assuming they're different, heroin, that's the scary stuff. But cocaine was pitched to me as super dangerous and I'm not sure it is. I don't know how dangerous like the OD and stuff possibility with cocaine is.

I know it's not even close to like, uh, pills and ODs on stuff like opiates. But I also like, I can see how people like, it wasn't, it was never for me. Like I never have enjoyed uppers other than ecstasy. And that was at concerts and in college. And I enjoyed that. But like, I have seen friends, like go into evenings, like, you know, I think we're just gonna have some beers, and we're maybe, you know, just chill. And then

someone brings Coke. And then it's like a feverish desire to keep that going, where like they run through whatever amount of grams they have. And then it's's like you can't even have a con. Hey, what do you think about the blues GM or whatever inane conversation you have when you're, you know, hanging out drinking and then they'll be like not even able to, you know, bandy it back with you because they're so invested in more cocaine. Just that's all they can think about when they're doing that. And it's just how your wires like addiction lasts past the night. No, I don't think it's not going to be cocaine. You're not going to get addicted to cocaine in one night. I'd have to be rich to be doing it every

day. Yeah, like I think there are drugs that you can get addicted to maybe the first time. Like I think heroin maybe like it just seems I think that's like up there is the most it seems so addictive and it seems wonderful like when you see people do heroin they're in ecstasy they're so like purely relaxed and in this other place like they're and and there's they're on like a dirty Philadelphia Street and they're as happy as they've ever been because they've just had a little bit of an opiate. So it's gotta be great. To add to what you're saying, I read this thing.

It was from a Redditor about what it's like to do heroin. And he's in a traffic jam in a city on a rainy day, a situation I've been in so many times. And it is to me, one of the most miserable things you can do. You're either going to work or wishing you were home. You're not where you wanna be. And it's rainy so it's taking triple the normal time

it takes to go where you wanna go. And he is seeing beauty in every raindrop on the windshield. And it was like if you, something about that resonated with me. Like if you turn that dreadful experience into something you're enjoying, then it makes you like the DMV at this rate. Like, and that, I don't know, it seemed powerful, too powerful. The ones the doctor prescribes, because the nature of it, like having more availability lasting for months, weeks to months, I can see how people get addicted to it.

And it's not that when we say addicted, especially those opiates, we're talking about if they don't do it, they're in a great deal of pain. Right. It's not even like, oh man, I really wish I could feel that feeling. I wish I could escape the way I've been escaping. I need more of that thing that allows me to do that. It's, I hurt. It's alcohol is like that.

A lot of people don't know what happens when a true alcoholic Goes cold turkey off off of alcohol. They will die They'll go into DT's and they will literally die it all Hospitals carry like Miller Lite. I got cans of Miller Lite down there like prescription Miller Lite to crack open a hand to a fucking label on it it cost $300 That's the most expensive drink you'll ever have. We're by United alcoholic beer. Dude, it's it's hospital Miller light and then Dom Perignon as far as price

per ounce. Yeah. I think alcohol and benzodiazepines are the only drugs I know of that if you're like super addicted can kill you in withdrawal. Now I think you have to hit a pretty high threshold of addiction for it to like shock your system to the point of death. But yeah, benzos and alcohol, and that's because they operate on similar neural pathways.

Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, my worst experience, I had wisdom teeth removed and mine went badly. I don't know anyone who's had a worse wisdom tooth removal experience than me. So I was on some sort of opiate for like three weeks. Like I missed a lot of work and stuff.

Pills. Pills. When it was wrapped up and I did get better and I went off of them, it was like something missing in my life. Like I had been in that state of being on pills 24 hours a day and we would take them on clockwork, like your alarm set.

Because it was like if you got off of them and it took a little while to get back on them and the pain to subside and the pain was real. Like I wasn't faking or anything. It was a wisdom to the one poorly. And, um, um, I just, like I'll never, it opened my eyes to how this can happen to people. Right. You know, I was an accountant, right? The pinnacle of society. And it still impacted me. So it could hit anybody.

Yeah. My dad dislikes so much. My dad hates the way they make him feel. So I remember he had back surgery, he had this ruptured disc in his back and they went in and they cut the nerve or they burned the nerve and put it back together. And they prescribed him these pills called Ultram's and he took one and he was like, couldn't stand how it felt. And he was just like, no, Advil we'll just do Advil we'll just do that he just didn't take them because he didn't like how they felt and I remember thinking like where's somebody give me some cool pills to take as a kid I was like I think

those are worth a lot of money maybe it's a genetic condition you know you should just start engaging in drug- behavior at the doctor's office. Yeah. I, um, every time I've gotten opiates, I love them. Um, when I had the wisdom two thing, they gave me some, I think it's called Tylenol three or something. It's Tylenol and then a numeral, but it's Tylenol mixed with a codeine, which is an opiate. And uh, it's wonderful. You feel a little itchy, but it's like, I don't know, you're a little, you're stoned and it's a stoned that lasts for a long time. And then I had that codeine syrup that time

that they gave me when I had strep throat and that was heaven. Oh my God, that now I had, I wish I'd known that's what rappers were rapping about all the time. I'd have been listening to more Lil Wayne because that shit is great. Like that's what scissor is. Yeah, I love scissor, but I never knew.

You mix it with a little sprite. No, I drank it straight out of the bottle. Cause I think they mix it with the strike. I'm just guessing. Cause I don't know about that culture, but I'm guessing maybe they mix it with the sprite to dilute it and maybe fix the flavor. Because what a lot of States do is they put this bitter shit into the medicine so that it can't be, right? The bottle they gave me in Georgia tasted delicious,

like a tasty crepe, like a syrupy candy, a strawberry or cherry, I can't remember which. And every sip was like, I'm high as fuck. And they gave me like a pint, cause I was going on this long road trip and I explained how long I was gonna be gone, no way to get to a doctor. They gave me a pint of scissor and I was long Did the drink last like the effect of the drink last?

Hours hours like like like a couple like a little sip and a half But the best part was because I had strep throat my throat was just so ruined It was the opiate syrup just coating the wounded throat and instantly making my throat better because I had to talk on camera and stuff and I was just like it was it was a problem I was so goddamn sick that stuff was amazing but I got it refilled in Idaho and I guess they got an opiate problem in Idaho or something because they made it taste like shit. They made my drugs taste so bad I threw them away. You didn't make, you didn't try and

dilute it? I'm telling you, it tasted like the bad part of a pecan or something. It was like a terrible taste that they put in there. You didn't even put it in a ginger ale or something? No, I threw it away. It tasted like shit. All Little Wayne gets a bite. You know, that's that's for the best. I know Little Wayne has had some, like he's had seizures and stuff that's almost certainly caused by his ridiculous drug use. He he rapped about it. He didn't just enjoy it casually. He was all about it.

He's on our list for a reason. The the the bucket list. Oh, not the bucket list. Death, death, death pool. We do a death pool where we each pick like four or five celebrities. I think our rule is they have to be younger than 50 which makes it hard No, and and so we think much more fun to predict untimely deaths. Yes We pick people who are the current crop of 12 or whatever I won with that guy running against Putin for a balmy or something

Yeah That was no only Navalny. Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, we need to do it. We have an active one. We might need to do it. We, we, uh, the old one is out because someone won. Okay. What about that Jay Z? And so we would need to do it again. Yeah. We'll need to get strong current candidate. He, he has a high idea. Now. Yeah. Turns out I I guess, I guess, oh, it's because of the Diddy stuff. Yeah, yeah. He wasn't too chill of a guy. He doesn't have a

mere 99 problems anymore. Actually, we have a different pool that's like a pedo pool and Woody picked Jay-Z for that legitimately. So I think, I think, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. We picked people we thought would be caught up in the ditty drama and you immediately went jay-z and which I thought was a bad guess because I didn't think, I don't know, for some reason, I didn't think he would be into those freak parties with the baby oil and such. Can you throw that up one more time? Let me take a scan. I didn't, I didn't read it properly.

DMX is dead. And so was like this one. Oh, yeah Yeah, you can see I picked some people that I thought were unhealthy and near the age gap Chris Jericho there I figured well a CTE you never know And no Wayne was my number one draft pick and he didn't win Latifah Yeah, I mean, she's a heavy set lady, you know This isn't an order of our pick. This is okay Okay, and so like That guy from lost I have down there Jorge Garcia

Towards the end I started to pick like just the fattest celebrities and when we picked this Jonah Hill was very fat right But he heard it. Yeah, he heard it. He's doing it again now. And I don't want Jonah Hill to die. He's one of my favorite. Kanye was a strong pick, but he seems like he's bounced back. And I really, really like my Alex Denald pick.

It hasn't gone anywhere, but yeah, it won't go anywhere until it does. Yeah. I like the strana, man. That's a, that's clever. That's, that's a good logic right there. This guy jumps out of planes without parachutes on him. Yeah, he could have plummeted to the earth and made me a winner of $0.

You know Alex Enol? He's the free solo guy, did El Capitan. He's known for mountain climbing without ropes. That's his thing. That's a solid pick. He had a new documentary type thing where him and a guy and a girl went and climbed this ice mountain in Antarctica or somewhere. I don't remember exactly where they were. They had to

go by boat to get to the rock that they climbed on. They got off the boat and immediately get on the thing and start climbing. But it was terrible. It was like, why didn't y'all just like, why did y'all get this footage is what you use like they got there? But there was some kind of issue where he didn't have all of his gear So they didn't like have all their gear and they were climbing like they only had they didn't have enough shoes Like like only one of them had climbing shoes and they're climbing this impossible thing and they used ropes And I was like, what am I watching? How was this your follow-up documentary? This was it was so lame. It was bad That's about his first one's amazing. If you haven't seen it. It's I don't know where to watch it

I'm sure it's on Hulu or HBO or something like that But my hands are so sweaty watching him climb up those those mountain faces and you really like you really like him He's a likable guy. Oh, yeah, he's a little on the spectrum. He's a little odd, but he's got this this this new Sure He's got this new romance with a pretty girl and she's sort of domesticating him and and he's into being domesticated because he need he knows he needs it and it and Then he's like I can't climb with her here though And he like goes and climbs the fucking mountain like without her there and like calls her and he's like I did it

When he's at the top and it's like this was great this was like a this was like a movie But you did it for real it was about then the faults that was garbage I give a shit ropes and shit get these annoying characters with you and they're being like bitchy They're climbing up the thing and like, yeah, he's like kicking rocks off and they almost hit the other guy in the head and he's like, I don't have my helmet. Right. Left me helmet in New Zealand. Well, I got an helmet. It won't hit me when I die.

And just like being real bitchy about stuff. That's not what he sounded like. It probably wasn't from New Zealand, but get my point. They were annoying and they were complaining the whole time. You'd be busy about climbing the second rocks today. They fly by. What I mean sounds like that fucking Packers fan wine, wine, wine, because some guy is screaming at you. You're rowing, standing up for his team. He was almost kind of like the gold standard of like edgy material documentaries because of that,

because like they somehow captured the craziness, but in like a humanized context. And so like, a lot of the people that were on that project have gone off to do other great things. But in the documentary world, if you were on the Free Solo solo project like that is the top of your resume Yeah, it's it's wonderful. It's it like the effect that it has on had on me just sitting there watching it My heart was pounding at times. I genuinely like am worried about him Even though I know he's gonna make it I saw him on Rogan talking about it But I watch him climb and I'm hands are sweaty I'm oh my god I hope he doesn't fall I hate those those videos of the climbers make me very nervous because I put

myself in that situation and I know I would die when you check out this UFC card it's a good one this week I've been looking forward to it I wish you watched with patrons of course yeah uh we always watch I always watch the cards I mean you're in like you're there for like all the good ones for sure like 80% good ones Yeah, and this is definitely a good one So this is Islam Makashef long time champion of the lightweight division in many people's goat list the student of Khabib Nurmagomedov Taking on a tough opponent. I think I saw Armin I Armaga Medov taking on a tough opponent. I think I saw Armin,

I saw someone had this terrible cut on their leg, a wound like this week, fight week. And like you could see stitches and infection and they were gonna fight and it might've been Armin, but there's a lot, you know, I'm not sure it was. The Marab fight, I'm so worried we're going to have two Dagestani Russian champions at the end of this event.

You don't believe in Marab? I'm just afraid of anybody whose last name is Nermaga. Fucking Madoff is the problem. And then Yury is the most autistic UFC fighter that there is. He believes he is a samurai and he, as you can see, he is not from Japan. He's got a top knot. Uh, he, he does all sorts of meditation and he's serious and respectful. Rules about samurai and they've asked him about it. Like he was stealing, um,

valor or not valor, but appropriating culture. He was, he was like, this is samurai called. I have great respect. Every man should have code. And like this really like respectful explanation for why he's into it. Jamal Hill is a fucking bitch. So I look forward to it. Everybody hates Jamal Hill. Who is the champion? Tell Jamal Hill he's a bitch. Why does Jamal Hill, by the way?

Why are we, why are we pulling against the American? He's a fucking crybaby bitch. I don't care about where people are from. Usually he's a crybaby bitch. He makes all sorts of excuses for his losses and their nonsense. He's a crybaby bitch. Oh, it would have went like he's like that guy who's like, oh, I remember when Wings was like, well, if if he thought he could escape the chokehold or whatever. And when it's like that kind of like you're a UFC fighter you should know

you lost fair and square your piece of shit anyway great card really looking forward to it I hate Islam but he's and where he's from but he's it's hard to like it's hard to dislike him as a man I just hate like where he's from the people he's with and his religion are we are we losing even are we losing even more ground in the UFC world because of that whole card seems like Eastern Europe is running away with it. Yeah, absolutely. Eastern Europeans are the best fighters. Dagestani is the best fighters in the world.

It does. Yeah. It's my personality to find something wrong with that and I don't see anything wrong with that. Now, if we had the Olympics of... Even the non-Russians, it's a guy from Romania, a guy from Georgia. Still that Slav. Slavs are just good at fighting. The population of Dagestan is 3.2 million. There's more people in metro Atlanta, and yet they are so overly represented in the world.

Do you see that stat that Minnesota had more gold medals than India? there's more people in Metro Atlanta and yet they are so overly represented in the world. Do you see that stat that Minnesota had more gold medals than India? Another one for the boy, this for the USA. The story of, uh, they asked him about like street fights and stuff. Have you ever been in street fights? He's like, no, I've never been in street fights. I've never had in street fights. Like ever had any close calls and he had first moved to America

and he was going grocery shopping after training. He's like still in his training gear. And if you see this guy and you know what you're looking at, he's a fighter's fighter, just built fucking solid. He's got the cauliflower on top of the cauliflower. And there's a guy much bigger than him at the grocery store like bullying everyone and he gets to kabeb and he's like he's like no no you don't don't do this and uh he's like what are you gonna do about it he's like

i i will smash you i will smash you this is not a joke don't do this and the guy's like yeah yeah i think he just stops. That's the end of the fight. He's like, you know, people learn that you're a professional fighter in America and they say, ooh, you're one of those. We're careful around wild animals here. He's like in Dagestan,

they learn you're a professional fighter. They say, oh, me too, let's go. There are the street fights and fighting and everyone thinks they're a pro fighter. Everyone thinks they're a bad ass in Dagestan. That's how he tells us. It's a tough culture, but it also begs the question who and how would you bully someone at the grocery store? That's my thought too. Like if Kyle's at the grocery store and he's got pistachios in his basket and I'm like, huh, I was looking for these.

I guess they were overpriced. I feel like you would just be so you wouldn't even respond aggressively. You'd be like, am I on impractical jokers? Like what the fuck is going on? I've seen it in convenience store footage. Just a big guy bullying everyone who was waiting in line to pay for their stuff. And I put myself in that situation. I'm like, what would you do?

Like would you really stand up to that guy? He's got to be 70 pounds. You know, you think you're that good? Would you just opt to live another day? I don't know. I'd hate to be in that situation. That's so weird bullying someone at the store. Like everyone's trying to get out of there.

Like just trying to get their shit done. So also on the card, like there was another fight on the main card we didn't see, but it's Kevin Holland. Love Kevin Holland. This happened today. Kevin Holland was posing for a photo with a fan. Zach. Can you play this? It's like a Twitter video. I don't think I won't watch it An X video, this is the red shorts

He grabbed his ass. I didn't know what he did wrong at first. I watched it 20 times. So I think so the thing is the kid is short. Kevin Holland is tall and like the weight Kevin Holland's shirt is so long it's kind of hard to tell where his ass is and this kid reached around and like posed with a photo with him and grabbed Kevin Hollan's ass. And Kevin goes, you just grabbed my ass. The fuck is wrong with you? Fuck all y'all.

Get the fuck away from me. And they had a little gayphobic meltdown. I don't think that's fair to say fuck all y'all because some of those guys, actually only one of them grabbed his ass and that could have been accidental. And so not letting anyone else take a photo. Not very, not very cool. That kid's face, he's like, oh, no, I did grab your ass. I'm sorry. It almost reminded me I saw this cop

video where the cops pat this black guy down. He's been arrested for probably no reason at all. Probably innocent. And he's like, hey, what's this? That is my penis. Oh, sorry. Oh, that's an oldie by the Goldie. That's my... And the cop, it's like you were grabbing prime penis area. It's not like this is shocking.

It's like you have a body. Dude, he was packing heat though. He had a mag light in there. The queue was wild. I don't recall seeing the grasp itself, but I remember the video. And what you gotta think is like, I don't know about you, but if I'm in a situation like that,

I'm gonna shrink up a little bit, you know? You're gonna be anxious? That guy was wielding a deadly whip. I don't know, you might have been a customer of your first sponsor this evening. It could have. Yeah, he's blue chewed up out in public topic for the show closer. I'm curious.

I, I, okay. Your objective is to be the fastest person on earth. This is a foot race. How young do you need to go before you're better than everyone at that age range? For example, I thought I could be the fastest 10 year old in the world. And then I watched a 10 year old. 200 meters by the way.

Then I watched a 10 year old set a 200 meter world record. I'm not there. We gotta go younger. How young do you think you need to go before no one on earth is faster than you? Dude, I gotta go to like six. Six? Like this.

In your current age? Right now. No training, right now. We're gonna go outside and foot race. Actually, no, I could do seven. Well, so this is the Tyson Paul question, right? Oh, yeah. How old do you have to go before you're the best?

Yeah, that's true. You're right, I'm mad. I mean, it's the exact same thing. Like, all right. What could I, as the YouTuber go into boxing and how old does somebody have to be that I can actually contend with them? And apparently at like 60 years old, like the best you'd ever be is junior varsity high school quality, right?

And like in any in any athletic discipline. Sure. So I think it's really, really interesting, right? Because like there's I don't know of other than maybe Beast games. I don't know that there's a crazier example of social media influencer turned like real world thing than Jake Paul boxing Mike Tyson on Netflix. Like that's the moon landing of our, you know, discipline. The moon landing. So how like the current record is 65 for my Dakota white, uh,

is the fastest seven year old-old she ran the the two years I got it the 200 meters in 59 seconds so that's fast that's an eighth of a mile and in 59 seconds can you do it is an eighth of a mile I think it's I think I think it's 400 meters around Olympic track right is a mile that born that would be a quarter mile no No, four laps is a mile. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, if she's running an eighth of a mile in a minute,

then I need to up my eight. She ran 200 meters in 60 seconds. Okay, so that is an eighth of a mile, right? That's about my pace. I'm right, the six-year-old girl, you say? Seven. Seven, I think I can hang with her. Yeah. Here's an eight-year-old doing it.

I would flash that six-year-old girl. The eight-year-old is twice as fast. What'd you say you would do? Thrash. Don't flip that out. I thought you were gonna flash this little girl. It's not better what he actually said. No, because then the 26 year old cop is going to catch me very quickly because I'm in the seven year old speed. It's a tact class. Yeah. Next, you're going to be mad that I had my pockets full of oil that I can throw back and slick up the track. Yeah, I would say I could take any seven year old girl, not to be a braggart. I don't think you can. Dude, if she's running a minute for an eighth of a mile, I can run an eight minute mile right now. That's not like you could run an eight

minute mile right now. I did that on my on my elliptical, like four. We're not running that we're running. We're running. We're running an eighth of a mile and video it outside. I'll buy you a sterling engine. Well outside, you know, now I have to worry about my neighbors laughing at me. I'm giving away sterling engines. I'm strapped to GoPro on tomorrow. My goodness.

Eighth of a mile run. Like where are we? Did I say eight minute mile run? Oh, eight minute mile. Did I say it wrong? I didn't. I can do an eight minute mile. You said an eighth of a mile at that pace, but I agree.

As much as I do that middle school, I don't think I can go run an 8-minute mile right now. I don't think these guys have tried it recently. I did it on the olympical like 3 or 4 months ago. Man, I haven't played olympic basketball and I'm shocked at how terrible I am. All I needed was that episode of King of the Hill where Cotton and Hank go back to Japan. What was your time in high school? Like six minutes 20 or something?

I got my fastest ever was like sophomore year of high school and I got like 625, 630. So I had never done it before. The first time, the only time I ever did it, I ran it in 6.45 and it was in 11th grade, something like that. And I just remember being tired, like really wanting to quit on that last lap. I felt like shit. But that's-

I was playing hockey for hours, like five days a week. I was incredibly, it was the fittest I've ever been in my life, I thought. I was completely out of shape and nowhere near fit. And I did it in 6.45. So I feel like now I could easily knock it out in eight minutes. Yeah, but I'm also like a big oath.

And so I don't think I was doing well. Dude, I used to be good at front handsprings, right? Front handsprings, I could do, I mean to exaggerate, I could do 20 in a row. That is safe. That's cool. Right? That's a lot. Could I do 40 in a row? it's cool. Right a lot. I could I do 40 in a row Yeah, I can't do one Right. Well, I can't do one either unbeknownst to me at some point during my life front handsprings were taken away from me

I wasn't warned. I tried one And it wasn't So I think you guys are unaware that I got a vial in the other room full of handsprings motherfuckers. All right. I got I got I got syringes that'll shoot jumping jacks in your ass. Okay. Like I don't want to hear it.

Well, I get jumping jack all day. I would be amazing how fast it goes. Like the weighted vest. It's amazing. I have one sneaky. It. Like a weighted vest. It's amazing. I have one sneaky. It goes like the way that I feel like I mean, when I take it off, I, I think I dumped a basketball like five years ago. Oh, damn. And all right. How tall are you? I'm six, five. So that's not as impressive. It's pretty much

like I've been playing old man basketball with some guys at a church, you know, a couple of mornings a week. And the creme de la creme, I am, I am in such fragile form. Like I, I actually stopped normally played for a couple of hours in a morning, I stopped after an hour because of the like unshakable feeling that I was on the cusp of like a meaningful injury. Like I, I don't know what it was gonna be. I probably was nothing but like, no soft tissue injury is so on its way to my life that with a six month surgical recovery.

Yeah, I'm like, man, I just, I can't, I don't know. I don't know how you get past that. Just not in the cards anymore. I appreciate Woody's like tempered advice for us as we age where he's like, don't be an idiot. You can't do that anymore. It's like, all right, fair. That's true.

I cannot argue with you. I cannot do it. I tried to do the splits and hockey pads right now. I go to the hospital. For the rest of your life. I told you how my new truck suddenly turned seven years old. And I like that just zoomed by. I feel like you don't realize how long it's been since you've run a six minute mile. Yeah. And it's easy to fool yourself. I know at least for me, cause it's like,

I work out all the time. I lift all the time from physically active and, but that's all totally controlled. Uh, it's all like, nothing's going to surprise me unless I'm retarded and I like take too hard of a turn with farmers carries and I tear my ACL. But like everything's so controlled. I'm using bars and barbells and machines or whatever it is. And so then to go out and I remember I hadn't run in forever and this is probably like six years ago or so. I was in a fat phase. I've had many fat phases. And I was playing beach soccer with like cousins and friends on a trip and like running on the beach is exhausting. And I like just went

out there to start playing, imagining my old cardiovascular endurance. And like I was, I was like five minutes into playing and I was finding myself like really not pursuing the aggressors on our net and being like, Oh wait, oh wait for the ball to come back. It's like just feeling so oafish and flat footed and slow. That was a bit of a wake up call. I did not enjoy that. It feels really good to have good cardio. I've, a few times in my life I've had good cardio

and it's like a superpower. It's like everything that you do is now just so much easier. You can just really lay into your girlfriend like never before. It's a real superpower when you've got good cardio. When we were doing, when at the end of that cut, I was doing like a 5K every day on the elliptical at like high speed.

I would send y'all my heart rate, it'd be 170. Oh, it reminds me, I saw Magnus Carlsen, not Magnus Carlsen, some other chess player. They had their heart rates and their heart rates are going up to like high 160s and 170s while they're playing chess. And their hands are shaking like Crazy shaking and then I saw one better last night. It was the guy this guy broke the Super Mario

World record any percentage speed run. Okay, he beat Super Mario one at any percent faster than anyone's ever done it before He was point three seconds off absolute mechanical perfection for five minutes. And his heart rate was over 170, maybe 185 or something. And you can see it like going up, every time he clears a level, it goes up 10 or 15 more. Because you know, speed running goes, every second that he's doing it correctly is something he's packing on to,

it's money he's putting on the table, it's his time invested. He's so close to doing it. And he'd's doing it correctly is something he's packing on till it's it's money he's putting on the table it's his time invested he's so close to doing it and he'd been doing it forever it's crazy i was so happy for him like burning hundreds of calories speed running mario is very funny yeah that's yeah there's a trick to laying into your girl for like forever It's all technique based. It's in the fist. Oh, you have my technique is to choose the bottom. And so what he's on all fours and he lets her do well, I think we've had a grant. Where can everyone find your content and your Vin whiskey? There you go. Vin Wiki, the Edollion, anywhere you want to go.

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