Painkiller Already - PKA 744 W/ Doug Polk: MLK Exposed?

Episode Date: March 22, 2025

PKA 744 with our guest Doug Polk Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Harry's Lock and Load and of course our wonderful merch. Doug, thanks for coming back. It's been a long time. I know you're doing a huge hundred thousand dollar challenge and you're a professional, so I'm sure it's going swimmingly. So how's the update?

Should be easy. Yeah, so I've got a great update there. I just want to start off by saying thanks for having me on again, guys. I feel like every roughly three years, it's about time for me to come back on here, it seems like. So here we go for our third. We're waiting for your NFTs to mature.

Yeah, last time you told us that we were suckers for not investing in NFT. Did I say Bitcoin and Ethereum, or did I say NFT specifically? We know you're not a fan of NFT. And I remember you were like, I can't believe you haven't heard about NFT because it is like the center of my universe right now. And we were like, what does it stand for?

But to put a point in his column against NFTs, he was telling us about Bitcoin and Ethereum, I think nine years ago on the show being like, hey, there's this Ethereum thing if Bitcoin is a little too rich for your blood. And it was, yeah, we all missed the boat on that. I'm glad I didn't buy Bitcoin at two grand. It's way too rich for my blood. If you go back and find my first clip on this pod, there's probably a really good Bitcoin take. But if there was a strong NFT take in the last one, I have to apologize to the audience.

Yeah, the NFT thing for once, I'm like, I don't get it. And so I'm not going to try to get it. This seems dumb. And that ended up working out. That's the whole point. Yeah, you nailed it. But the poker challenge that you're doing $100,000 challenge, how's that going? Okay, so just a little backstory for people. So recently, a big poker site launched in the US called a club WPT gold And basically it uses the sweepstakes model. There's a big poker site called global poker they launched like six seven years ago something like that and You know see mistakes is a really weird workaround for gaming

We're seeing it kind of pop up with tons of stuff You see it for like sports betting for see it for slot You see basically every gambling vertical But basically there's like a split currency thing and like if anyone requests money, they have to give you like a little bit and it's it's basically taking the sweepstakes model and then trying to use that to allow for gaming. So it is legal, but it is a loophole.

However, you want to look at it. But anyway, so like the club WPT gold launched a couple months ago. And if you guys don't know anything about WPT, they're like a really big brand in poker. It's called World Poker Tour. They launched a couple months ago. And if you guys don't know anything about WPT, they're like a really big brand in poker. It's called World Poker Tour. They have a bunch of shows. You probably see it, you probably been at like a bar,

you see it on the background. There's like a big pile of cash, whatever. So they launched their US site a couple of months ago. I work with a lot of the people over there at WPT. So I've been like promoting it. And I was like, you know, I'm doing a big challenge and I'll show like, you know, how easy it is to win on the site. Like'm just gonna look I'm just gonna fire it up

I want a hundred grand a month and I'll be like, I'm gonna give it all away to you guys I'll give away a hundred thousand dollars and like it's gonna be a cakewalk So I actually just guaranteed that I'd give away a hundred thousand dollars if you signed up using my code Thinking I would for sure win $100,000. You're Doug Polk. We're 17 days. Is it too late to use that code? You can still get in there.

The code is still active for at least a couple of weeks. So basically, I'm just giving away all of the $100,000 to all the people that sign up a deposit with that. But the problem is after 17 days of action, as it stands today, I am down $38,000. So I'm not only losing the, I'm not only just, I'm just straight losing, but I also losing the money I'm giving away. And it's also been like fairly embarrassing, I would say.

And so after about 10 days, I had to pivot cause I'm like, I'm never going to get to a hundred grand. So I was like, okay, it's the $0 challenge. I got to get to $0 after a month. And if I don't, if I don't make it, then gonna get to a hundred grand. So I was like, okay, it's the zero dollar challenge. I gotta get to zero dollars after a month. And if I don't make it, then I'll let my chat decide, they can either shave my head or I'll go blonde. I know they're gonna shave my head. Like we can all agree, right?

They're gonna shave. I don't know, you might be blonde. I would have gone blonde. I would have chose a blonde for you. I think it's funnier. With that hair up. It's more humiliating. It'd be like a very Super Saiyan look.

Ooh, I like that. I would want you to turn you into a bomb pop though You know how it goes red white and blue like like as you get closer to the top. I I'd do something like that But yeah, but you are correct. They're gonna shave your head. Yeah, you want you want some a little more patriotic as you're saying though No something more humiliating I don't know you could still fight your way back. This could be the death and rebirth portion of your hero's journey Where you you cataclysm minus 38k slow crawl back. Everyone's cheering you on. Maybe I don't know poker. It could. I mean, look like the buy-in I'm playing is $4,000. And so I really only have to

win like 10 of them over two weeks. It's like not even one a day. It's definitely possible, but I have to like start going in the right direction or it's so the big problem with the site is that the actual quality of the site is really bad, like their software because they just launched. They're trying to get all the stuff worked out. And so you could only play one table at a time, which is really slow. So I'm one tabling and I'm trying to interact with my chat and like whatever else is going on. And I feel like when you only have one table, you might make some moves you wouldn't normally make just to make stuff happen because there's like not a lot going on. And so it's harder to be disciplined when you only have a single table. And I've been I think that's hurt me a good amount. How many do you

normally play? Like what would a normal day if you weren't streaming? So I play heads up, which is just like one on one poker. And so normally I'll play two too many, but I'll play between like two and four is like my go-to. Can you talk to chat while you play two to four tables? Yeah, I'm pretty good at that. Okay. I guess you said it's the service. It's not the streaming that's preventing you from that.

It's for some reason. Right, I was just curious. Like if he could do four tables at a hand at a time, would he have to ignore chat? Because. Oh yeah. Poker's weird with that. could do four tables at a hand at a time, would he have to ignore chat? Oh yeah. Yeah. Poker's weird with that. So there's a lot of different styles of streamers, right?

Like some people are just trying to play poker well, but the problem with that is then it's pretty dry. So unless like the stakes are really high, it's like kind of hard for that to be that interesting, I think. And then some people like really like to goof around with the chat. And so I try to do a bit of both but

The more you like best around with the chat it gets harder to actually focus on playing poker well because poker is a tough game You know, there's a lot that goes into it I used to play a game escape from Tarkov and I would grind off stream all day to make enough rubles as the currency in this game so that I could play recklessly and Entertainingly in chat and lose it at night. Nice. Yeah. Is this, I mean, you're a professional poker player,

so this can't by a long shot be like the worst down you've ever been, right? Like it's a big rebound up and down, right? In dollars, this is not a very big loss for me because I've played some pretty big shows. It's more the fact that every day I log on and thousands of people watch me lose. And then the tides are turning in my chat.

Hey, this guy is actually not that good. You can see. And I'm like, No, I'm good. I'm getting unlucky guys. You just sound like you're, no, I'm good. I'm just, I'm getting unlucky guys. You just, you just sound like you're a delusional moron. It's like, like refuse this to admit that they have a gambling problem or something.

Yeah. There's a big minus 38,000 graphic on screen, minus 38,000 out of a hundred thousand. And you're like, you don't get it. It's a bad stream of luck. I had a question about being good. So you've won the world series of poker three times, right? You have three race lists. I have, I had a question about being good. So you've won the World Series of Poker three times, right? You have three race lists. I have won three of those, yeah.

Would you say that the best poker player that year tends to win? Or like, you know, obviously you can't be bad. I'm bad, I'm not a poker player. I wouldn't win. But you know, is it maybe like any one of 10 people that could have been it, depending who got the cards? Well, so something to think about right?

It used to be that there were only like 10 or 15 of those bracelets right a year and they had small fields It's usually like the best players and it's just turned into a progressively bigger shit show over the course of the last like 20 years Because the casino wants as many people to play as possible because they make more money so it's turned into, rather than having like 10 events with a high buy-in of like skilled people proving who's the best, it's turned into like, who wants to come on down and gamble for 300 bucks? And it's like, there's like tens of thousands of people.

So I would say generally speaking, winning any event, and it varies because there's still like the high buy-in ones that have small fields, but most events you just have to be incredibly lucky and a lot of times the person that wins is not very good. It's just like if 10,000 people play a tournament there might only be like 400 good people in that tournament. So like just laws, law of numbers, like what's more likely one of the 9600 other guys wins or like one of the people that's pretty good? Someone's just gonna black swan event their way to a bracelet. If you watch, you know, the main event or the World Series of Poker main event

from beginning to end, almost every time you'll find the guy who won it. Like if you watch Chris Moneymaker's streak he went on, how many times he was all in on the bad side of the cards and just waiting to leave. And then they were like, oh, another king. And he just kept, oh my God, he just doubled up. Now he's the chip leader. And it they were like, Oh, another, another king. And he just kept,

Oh my God, he just doubled up. Now he's the chip leader. And it just, it's a lucky streak. A lot of times that they go on and there'll be multiple times throughout it where our Mike Mattis cells melt down that time of the world series of poker when he was up so good. And I like, you just get on a hot streak or a bad streak and an event like that. And it's, that's usually what happened to the winners and losers. Just too many people to average out. Totally. I mean, there are some smaller fields where it's less like that.

But I mean, it's still similar. So the bracelet I won that was the biggest, the buy-in was $111,000. Actually, they tried to get really cute with it. It's like $111,111 because like one, one, one, one. It's like, OK, all right, we get it, guys. So anyway, but at the final table, I was in 111 because like one, one, one, one, one. It's like, okay, all right, we get it guys. So like, so anyway, but at the final table, I was shorter stack and I went all in with like, I want to say like 10, nine suited, right? And I got called by a guy with ace queen.

So my chance to win that hand is like 38, 40%, something like that. So I have a decent shop, I'm obviously an underdog and I hit the flop and doubled up and ended up winning the tournament. And you just think about it like, well, six years at the time, he knocks me out, I get ninth place. And then we're not talking about this, you know, six years later or whatever. So there is a tremendous amount of luck. And this is something that's not even just in poker, right?

Like we see it in like just the world. This tilts me like business guys, you'll see a business guy that's really successful. Wow, what a genius. He was so successful. It's like, genius. He was so successful. It's like, well, he probably did some really degenerate shit to get there. You know, he probably had a moment where he was like, well, I'm going to keep all my shares, like, you'll owe it up. It's a good. And if he had just hit the 40%, like he could have gotten stacked or whatever

the equivalent would be in the real world, you go broke. So we basically always do this thing where we look at winners and just assume that means they were smart or good or whatever. And it's really not like that. It's like poker is mainly luck man, just mainly luck every day. That's what, see that's like my total novice don't play poker thing of like yeah that's probably mostly luck and so to hear one of the best players in the world say that because Kyle you you disagree you don't think it's mostly luck right? Oh Oh, no. Well, all right. Like, like I think the best players in the world are going to win way more often. Sure. Like that's, that's, I believe that, but I believe there's obviously

luck involved. Like we, there's a reason they put, they, they even after our money's in, they, they'll give you the odds that he just described the situation, ace queen versus the team, the 10 nine suited. They still dealt the cards, you know, for a reason, like, like we're, and now let's see. So there's definitely luck involved. I just think over the long run, you beat the luck if you were a good player playing its players who aren't as good. Yeah. And that's like the key point, right?

It's like in the long run, you get them. But in the short run, it's just anyone's ball game. Like anything can happen. Anyone can win. And by the way, that makes it a really good game because no one wants to play high stakes chess. Right? Oh, yeah.

I'm totally going to get Magnus today. You're not. No, he's going to win. But in poker, even if you just go all in every hand, right? If you're playing one on one or whatever, your chance to win is probably like 40%, 38%, whatever it might be. So you're never really that far behind unless, unless you're,

the only way you can be really truly terrible in poker is if you just are really conservative and you refuse to like try to ever win any pots. If you're just like, I'm going to just check this down and see if I win, then you can lose pretty much every time. But if you're just like kind of aggressive and just even spazzy, you're going to, you're going to win a lot of poker. It's just, it's just the way the game works. You know how people overestimate their ability in so many things.

I did that in poker and there was a time like two three years ago when like poker was getting popular amongst our fan base and people would give me $50 to gamble with in the crowd and my dumb ass kept getting bad cards and liking them. I'd be like, you know, a seven, nine. It's a bit of a fixer upper, but imagine we get like a six and eight and a 10, then I got something. And that concept of a fixer upper lost people their money.

Next time I play a shitty hand, I'm gonna call it a fixer upper. I like that. I'm gonna do that in my own game. This hand's got potential. It just needs the right flop. Yeah, it's got good bones. Sometimes with those kinds of hands though, you end up in really tricky spots. Like probably the most famous hand I've played, I was against Phil Hellmuth. And I called with a 10-7 for the flop.

And the flop came Jack nine eight. So I have the second nuts, the best possible answer queen 10. And the second best answer 10-7. And then you could have three of a kind, two pair, whatever. So Phil checks, some other guy bets, I raise. And so I make it like 7,000 to go on the flop.

And Phil just goes all in for 100 grand over the top of my bet. And the other guy folds and I'm back to me and I'm just like, this is horrific because I know how Phil plays and he's not the kind of guy that's just like, I'm just gonna throw 100 grand in here and just see what happens. He's a generally good player overall, but he tends to be conservative.

So I was in a horrible spot. I thought it out and I decided to let it go. And it's tough on TV because when you make a decision like that, if you're wrong, people will call you a moron. You're not a poker guy. When you say you decided to let it go, what happened? I folded, I threw it away. I let him win the pot.

I was like, okay, I'm not gonna call this bet. And then I showed him my hand and I threw it away. And you could tell he's like, and he quickly got rid of his cards without showing anything and he's like, tried to make it seem like he didn't have it, but really he did. And so when we watched it back, you could see that he had it and it's like,

it's a great clip now because I made like a, just about like the toughest read you can make as a poker player, which is like, I have the second best possible hand and I'm up against the best possible hand. You're always supposed to lose all your money there, but I managed to get away. So that's great. But if he was bluffing me and I did that and now it's like, watch Doug, poke it. Oh, and it's like stamped on the thumbnail.

It'd have you like soy facing on the thumbnail. Minus 100 K or whatever it was. Do you play so much poker now? Get that mole removed. That thing is so gross, dude. You ever sit across the table from that dude and you just entranced by that mole on his face? I don't remember.

Oh, I love him to death. But I think I think he pays the cameraman to like, not know. No, honestly, any, any second you're spent thinking about that mole Kyle is the second you're not doing mental math on your likely. Oh yeah. Like that's why like hot odds go out the window. Why those guys wear sunglasses upside down.

Some guy with like a, with like a lazy eyes going to take the whole place by storm. He's the only guy that doesn't wear sunglasses. And they're like, we're trying to decipher where Terry's looking. No one can tell. Come on, bro. It's right there in the middle of your face. Yeah.

Come on, come on. Just come on. Flop it. Yeah, I guess, I guess I don't, I don't really like get into this kind of stuff that much. I guess I'm more about the cards. I've watched that man on TV since I was 19 years old and I've always thought like, dude, just get it cut off.

Let's get it cut off. Thank God for that arrow. Kyle, are there any other any other men's appearances you kind of want to get into right now? Do you have like some thoughts, some hot takes? I mean, I just don't. I think if you've got some sort of abnormality like that, you should get that looked after. Like that thing could be cancerous. I don't think it's grown over the years, but,

but I'm just saying I would, I'd get that nipped off. Yeah. You had the eye lid version of that. And so now you're hyper aware, hyper sensing. Well, anything, anything hanging off somebody, you want to get that taken care of. You don't want any dangly. Actually, you don't want to, you don't want danglers. No, I don't know. It looks distinguished. You don't want to have fixed wrappers on your face. No, that's so funny. That's the one thing you remembered about that guy, Kyle. You didn't even know off the top of your head like I do that he's won 17 bracelets and 210 money finishes. I had no idea. of course. No, I didn't know any of that. And an ITM winner, which seems to be like a tough thing to get.

And he's one of the most fun guys to watch on TV because he loses badly and he wins badly often too. And it's fun to watch that shit show at times. I have, go ahead, please. Oh, sorry, I was just gonna say, there's a show called Poker Go and it's like a really highly produced poker studio in Las Vegas, they do most of like the really big shows and

He there's like a I think it was on a show called high stakes poker Which is like one of their premier shows and then someone's like have you seen this and high stakes poker? I'm like what and they sent me a link and he's just like on one of the breaks in between hand He just goes in a rant about like me specifically, like calling me fake news, Doug. He's just like, go, is it going to town? I'm like, what the fuck? I just, I'm just like getting like, I'm not even on this show. I'm not even there.

You're just like, Oh, let's have a little conversation about Doug. I don't get it. Why, why did he think you were fake news? Doug, were you sneaking like jokers in the deck? So Phil does this thing where, um, so, so my YouTube channel, I cover a lot of like news, like what's happening in poker, news, drama, stuff like that. And so when he does like his like antics,

where so he's famous for blowing up, right? Like he just has these meltdowns. Even as, yeah, I mean, they're very well known. And so when they happen, I cover them because they're newsworthy and they're also goddamn hilarious. So we look at them and like usually we do some trolling and we see what he did. And there is this one he did that was like particularly egregious where it was at the

World Tazer poker and he was at like a final table and I saw a clips of it, but I wanted to watch the whole thing because it was so ridiculous. And for like an hour and a half, this guy was just like cursing his face off at everyone like fucking cards, fucking you fuck fucking. And he's just yelling at everyone. He's throwing cards, he's yelling shit. And then he's like, I'm going to burn this place to the fucking ground. I'm going to burn to the fucking ground. And by the way, most people, if you do that, they're going to kick you out.

Like you can't threaten to burn down the building you're in. That's like not like a thing you're allowed to do. Yeah. That extends beyond poker, believe it or not. But because he's Phil, they're just like, Phil, please stop. Like, it's okay. Just don't do it. So I cover this and I've been making fun of it for like several years now. But, but in his view, this is my fault for covering it. You see what I'm saying? Not, not his fault for being insane, or whatever you would call it.

It's the security camera's fault for catching me robbing you. That's stupid, not my fault. Well, if you hadn't pointed a finger at him being all spastic, someone else would have. It's not like it would have faded away, so he needs to calm down. Well, I think regardless of who ends up covering it

or doesn't cover it, if you're going to go on to some kind of public show and behave, however, you're opening up yourself to commentary and then blaming the person that's doing the commentary on what you did is just like childish. It's like, that's not how the world works, right? Like we all get to have opinions. We all get to like, you know, say what we think about things and then to blame the people saying something. Cause you don't like what they say.

It's just, I mean, welcome to America. Was he saying like he's he blew it out of proportion. I wasn't yelling. I was going to burn the establishment down. I said I had matches and I winked. I said the cards were on. Now he he is a I wonder how much of that is a show for to, cause look, you sit there and you lose well and you win well and you win whatever his percentage

of the time is or whatever his winnings are. Like maybe you're not as famous, but if you're just bombastic and you are a show win, lose or draw, which he is, win, lose or draw. He's a show. Whether you like that show or not. It's a different question so I've always thought that like like especially on some of those smaller shows where I don't know if and you would know better than any of us like like how is it is

How often is that real dollars at stake or maybe a better question is how often is it is it their real dollars dollars at stake and not someone like firing their action? Well, so it depends on the player, right? I guess to just answer the first question, if you see a poker show and it says dollar signs on the stack, it's always real. I can't think of a single fake one I've ever heard of that. It's always real because think about it. They have a production, they have a studio, they have like, everyone would have to kind of be in on it together, which is just really hard.

I mean, it's hard to get two people to keep a secret. You're going to get like nine people and staff and production. They're all going to pretend. And then why is anyone there? Like, why would you go play in a pretend game? What's the point? So all of the games are always for real money. The question is with how much themselves do they have?

I think it really depends on the game. So, like, for example, last year I went and I played in a million dollar game in Los Angeles and it was on a show called hustler casino live and Basically when I was on there, it's a million dollar buy-in which is too much money for me Like I'll play like 200k or 250k, but a million is just way too big so I sold pieces to a bunch of my friends and Then I went on and I had like whatever percentage of my action, I think it was 25 or 30 or whatever.

It doesn't really matter. And then if I lose, I can afford to lose a quarter million, but I'm not gonna lose like I brought two million with me. I can't afford to just dump two million off on the show. Like that's just ridiculous. So for me, that was kind of my threshold. How did that one go? We all wanna know.

Yeah, I lost some money. I lost small. I lost a little bit. It was just a little bit. I lost a lot of different people's money. That's not a friend's pretty lonely barbecues that summer. It is funny how much worse it is to lose your friends money than your own money.

Like when it's your money, you're like, I'm an idiot, but you know, I'm the one that pays the price. It's fine. But what's other people's money? It's like, it feels much worse. Oh, of course. The one guy's just like this motherfucker. I've got minus 100 grand and like six worthless images of a monkey on a sailboat. I wasn't friends with them in the

Ethereum time. Dammit. Back if I was there for that tip. You could have been there. You could have been there. Yeah, that would do. So you do feel you play, I guess you probably have to fight back against wanting to play conservatively with even other people's money because you have that impulse as a pro of like, no, if I start playing conservative, I'm more likely to lose. Like I play my game. So the rule of thumb with poker is if you sit down at a game and you feel like the stakes are too big to where you can't play the way you need to play, you've already lost. And a lot of people, they like to play in really big games because there's, so there's a lot of ego and poker. It's like, you know,

look at all this money I have. I'm so great. Look at me. Like, I'm so cool. And so I feel like for a lot of people, when they sit down a really big game, it's, it's ego and you have to be able to play at a stake level where you're able to execute your plan regardless of what the stakes are. Um, because if you can't, then yeah, you're going to be playing a lot worse than you should be playing or you're scared. You never want to be scared. Scared people get run over. So there is a fine line there. But going back to what

Kyle said where he talked about being bombastic, I think like, so when Full Tilt Poker and Poker Stars first got really big like 15 years ago, whenever the money maker boom happened 20 years ago. There was just so many ad dollars thrown in all those players because with US poker, like the amount you make per player is so high that those shows would pay people to go onto the shows and promote their brands.

When US poker got cut off in 2011 on Black Friday, a lot of those ad dollars went away. So there weren't all those deals to just go on to shows and get paid to do it. I think as we see poker come back to the US now with the sleep-stake stuff, we might see that again. I could see it happening again, but the glory days were crazy.

It was just all basically old-school gamblers just yelling and doing dumb shit for like hundreds of thousands You look back at some of the some of those hands. Like what is even going on right now? It's crazy Hey, look at look at that. Look at what they're wearing. They look like NASCAR cars or NASCAR drivers even with all the patches Everybody's got bedazzled with like this website or that website and then you know Like I know Doyle Brunson had his own thing like Doyle's room or something he always had that gear on and there was that his little you could tell who was like the various groups were sponsored by various groups of sponsors and there was clearly some some stuff going on behind the scenes I'm sure there was sponsorship

drama and all sorts of stuff going on with that money. But that was interesting. I liked that time. Literally, they'd be sitting at the table bedazzled with sponsorship shit. And it was like, this is crazy. Is it really that much money in it? When Money Maker won and he showed every accountant in the United States that he too could be a millionaire

by outsmarting the rest of the field. And then I remember those poker sets were like $100 for just plastic chips. Like you couldn't get them. It was crazy. So I just looked up, I didn't know who Doyle Brunson was because I don't follow poker.

But see this guy's what I picture about a professional poker player. He's got a big old hat on. He's wearing a flannel shirt. Like this, was he like one of the, was he like a, was he more known for his look or because he was one of the greatest of all time? So, so he, he was like one of the, he has something about a

phrase is he's like one of the first players that kind of went from the old school era where it was like wild west gambling saloons to like modernized poker where it was like wild west gambling saloons to like modernized poker, where, um, it's like a lot more nerds and like, you know, just like business guys and whatever. So, um, he, he like got to bridge that gap. And so he had a lot of kind of like old school, um, like a lot of old school like characteristics, but then also played it across all the eras.

So he wrote some of the most famous poker books, like his business book called Super System where like he basically explained how to play poker and all that stuff. Obviously the way that he played poker by today's standard wasn't very good because not now we have we have the solutions right? Like there you can actually look up and figure out what the answers are. Whereas back then you had to like make up some shit, you know actually look up and figure out what the answers are. Whereas back then you had to like make up some shit, you know, like, okay, it's the guy with the guy with five teeth is betting. What's that mean? You

know? Whereas now it's like, it's like all just math. So I think like, he played he played across a lot of generations and like pretty successful and wrote a lot of like, he I mean, he's like, he's basically like a like a folk hero for poker, you know, he's like, he's basically like a folk hero for poker. He's like one of the people that really helped the poker become what it is today. So. Nice.

It looks cool. RIP to Mr. Doyle Brunson. Yeah. He played like even in his later years, he was in an electric, like a mobility types thing and here he comes. And like everybody in the poker rooms, like stands up. Like the president just walked into the room.

His wheelchair for eight. Yeah. Right. He's like, Oh, that's Doyle Brunson. As he comes through the casino. Yeah. That was, it was like 15 years like that, where he was like in that chair and just a whizzing around. That's sick. He has a, he has a son that's related to poker too. His name is Todd, Todd Brunson. Um, but yeah, if you would take a typical, like an average top poker player,

how much of the income comes from winning and how much is from content creation, like the sponsors and just the pop being popular. So it kind of depends, right? Um, I would say for like, so for my adult life, for most of it, uh, poker was I would say for like, so for my adult life, for most of it, poker was illegal in the US. And so for like kind of generic white American men, there was basically zero dollars in sponsorship because there's no market here

and you don't bring in any unique people. So what I did was because like there wasn't really that opportunity, I built my own businesses. So I own upswingpoker.com. It's one of the biggest poker training websites, which might be taking a hit now that I can't beat these idiots on this one. I'm like, I'm gonna die.

You said it quickly and I imagine you're not the only one who didn't hear it. Sorry, upswingpoker.com. Upswing, okay. Yeah, we actually have a March Madness sale going on right now too, so there's a good good size discount stuff going on over there. But basically, like my concept with that was we get like people that have actually won a lot of money playing poker and get them to teach because I feel like a lot of training sites.

It's like, and here's Frank. Trust me. Frank's very good. And you're just like, well, did Frank win any money anywhere? And you're like, oh, you're going to love Frank. Whereas like our side is like, how can you afford to pay Frank? Why is he out winning the million still? He got sick of it, you know, he's more in the knowledge passing on part of it. He's a pedophile. He's a pedophile. All right. You want to learn poker or not?

Get in here. Oh shit. Okay. Off the top of your head, do you remember any of the old timey rules that people like Brunson or whoever had where they didn't have the math of it? So were any of them ever just like, oh, you say you're fucking four clubs, you get the hell out of there. Doesn't matter the context, I don't play with them.

Like just silly nonsense. So there was like, there's some old school thinking, right? So like, for example, it used to be really popular to bet like a really small amount as a bluff because if it works, the price is really good, right? And I think Doyle actually popular, you call it the post oak bluff or something like that. But in theory, that's actually just very much not correct

because if you bet really small, then your opponent kind of has to just call you with like almost all their hands so you actually when you bluff you typically want to bluff big and then when you have good hands you bet big too and it's unclear what you have so stuff like that was just wrong and and you learn we learned more as we came along and developed but like I mean it's not a very fair comparison right because that we have machines that just tell us what the right thing to do is. The machine can play 10 lifetimes of hands

and learn to play in a way that, and he spent, Dor Brunson spent 60 years playing and didn't remember it all. So there's a lot of find by the seat of your pants, but that machine is just perfection. That computer knows. I've been watching chess interviews and the current top players, I think everyone agrees,

would beat any of the top players from earlier generations. The level of play has just gotten better and it feels like there's a parallel to poker then. And well, I remember when it was a big deal, like that deep blue machine was going against Kasparov, but now we talked about the other day how Magnus Carlsen can't beat the one on his phone. Right on his phone.

Yeah, I love that. That's I like that some games can be figured out. I guess that can be solved, that it's an equation that could be solved and not a seat of your pants shoots and ladders kind of situation. So both chess and poker, I wouldn't use the word that it's an equation that can be solved and not a seat in your pants, chutes and ladders kind of situation. So both chess and poker, I wouldn't use the word solved

and if I said that earlier I would correct myself, but they're like, we have very good estimations now, right? Because both poker and chess are similar in that if you think of all the possibilities, it's a gigantic, gigantic number. So to truly solve it, there should be like a direct answer to everything, we don't have that yet.

But we can start to approximate those things and those approximations are gonna be like quite accurate. So it's just changed the game immensely because in both those games, I think Chad's a great example because it's like, now there's like a computer that can take exactly what was correct and it's way better than humans and it sets the bar and we use that to learn.

Which I think the downside to that is it makes the skill set different. So like, and I'm gonna say this unironically, back in my day, which was like 10 years ago, that was actually pre solvers. So I specialized in one on one poker, heads up poker, and I basically made up all my own strategies, you know, like I had to have my own strategies of how I played and, you know,

like five years later, we could just see if those were right or wrong or three years later, whatever it ended up being. So it's made it so that the skillset to be good at poker has changed from like who was creative and crafty and like hard to figure out to like, who can memorize the most data which is not great for poker in my opinion because it makes the game about memorization and who just like legitimately who's gonna spend the hours like who wants to like every day show up and spend all the hours studying what will have an advantage yeah I can see have you ever seen a Chinese student who has been trained on an abacus and they do

That mental math in their heads, but while manipulating an invisible abacus Like is that what they're doing? Yes. Yes, so so you'll see them doing mathematics in their head but they'll manipulate an invisible abacus because that allows them to, to, to utilize the, the whatever connection they built training with that with it. I would imagine something similar could be used for poker because those kids, I mean they're, they're doing these rapid collect, like, like calculations, these very difficult calculations. I wonder, well so I'm always fascinated when I see that it's more,

it's more about like, like heuristics and theory, like seeing a situation and saying, oh, when I started this spot, I knew that like when I have the ace of the suit out there that that means I should bet big or whatever it is, stuff like that. So it's more just like creating heuristics for strategies. But I mean, the good side of that though is, it's not like, like if you have a question,

you can go out there and get the answer. Like you can actually, you can, if you have a hand and you get a bad situation, you can go out there and find out what you should have done, which is cool, right? Like you can actually get those answers. Whereas back in the day, you'd have to like argue with people. Hey, what would you do?

Oh, I don't like that. And then like two guys would argue. And then the end of it, everyone would be mad. And that was it. You never even knew what was right. Do you have a training app or something like that on your website where you can play out hands in that way and then review them to see what you should have done?

Yeah, we have a software called Lucid Poker. And it's like a trainer basically. So you can play. Yeah, yeah. Oh cool, okay, awesome. Yeah, no, it's great. It's great. It's nice to be able to play

and actually see what those solutions look like. And then you can practice playing hands. And then when you actually go play You know you have this experience of things that they'll tell you when you make a mistake, right? So you can get your mistakes out of the way for free rather than making them at the poker table Which is which is a good amount better. Mm-hmm. Yeah Aren't there any aren't there many good women players? What women suck comparing men and everything, please tell us Doug Why aren't there any, aren't there many good women players?

Why do women suck compared to men at everything? Please tell us Doug. Oh. Get ready, fake news Doug on the way. Breaking news. So I'm getting canceled after this one, is that what's going on? No, anyway. No, we've survived, you'll be okay.

You just can decide not to be canceled, it turns out. It turns out. So I think there's a few things that go into that. And I think the first one is men are just more, more drawn to compete in like random bullshit than women, right? Like men will compete over like the most insane, like you ever had like a party and like beer pong, oh I'll fucking kick your, like men are like in there just like trying That's just not that's that's really a men thing is to just like compete endlessly on the random shit So that's the first thing second I think that there's there's like more of a

Stereotype for women that like being involved in gambling is bad like with for men I feel like whatever path you trailblaze like good for him. He figured it out But for women I feel like there are certain lanes that are like viewed to be sort of improper. Absolutely. It's traditionally a trashy environment where the, where the poker game would be right. Especially for a woman like, like, uh, she might be the prostitute upstairs. If this is an old West gambling establishment, she's probably going to be in a boostier on a gambler's knee or something,

not sitting at the table and then Kyle what times but what century are you think we're playing poker in these days? I'm taking it back. You know a century or two. He's a purist dog not like you Even some of the places that I would play in that were like bars that were kind of sketchy like I don't know there were pictures of naked ladies all over the walls and like half a motorcycle was built into the bar. Like it wasn't a place for, um, ladies. It sounds awesome. There's two, there's two last things. I think,

I think that are like maybe a little more controversial, but, um, so like, if you look at men and women's interests, men are like an order of magnitude more interested in like science and math and like stuff like that and women are an order of magnitude Warned shit and like people and and like emotion and things like that So sure it games that are science and math based will naturally draw men more and then the last thing and I think this is Actually a huge thing and it's a big reason almost all games I've been tend to dominate if you look at the distribution of men's intelligence It's way wider So like men and women on average are roughly the same intellect But men have like some real dipshits and then we have like the like smartest people ever they're like both men mainly

So our curve is way bigger and that's like when you look at the best of anything It's a little more likely to be a man in my opinion, because it skews towards like the end of the distribution. So. Yeah, all that checks out. If you don't understand that data, you're probably a woman. Which means you're not listening to the show right now. So. I was just waiting for Taylor to chime in

on his big head theory that always comes up when we talk about intelligence. Like, you know, bigger brains are better. The size of the brain, man, is all that matters. I have a book from 1874 that has a lot to teach you. Actually, I think it's like 18. I bought a phrenology book on the internet. I, it wasn't even on Amazon. It was on, uh, some like, uh, like re, they republish old, old scientific, scientific documents.

And actually I shouldn't do the quotes cause a lot of it, old scientific documents. And actually I shouldn't do the quotes because a lot of it is old scientific stuff, but there's a lot of goofy stuff in there too. And this textbook from like 1820 is like phrenology or like facial structures. And it's like drawings of like the face of a suspicious man. And it's like a hook nose and like beady eyes. And it'll show like someone with like,

I think it's called an occipital bump or hump or something on the back of the skull some people have. You gotta get that taken off. Yeah, you just gotta get that ground off. Well, this guy would have agreed because he said that's a sign that someone is not conscientious. And so throughout the whole book, it's like, and some of it checks out, you'll like look at a face

and it's like, looks like some Italian bruiser from a mafia movie, but this was 200 years ago and the guy's like, never trust a man with this jaw width. And then all his reasoning for it and a lot of his reasons is like, yeah, this guy I knew, he wouldn't believe it. So. What percentage of your guys' audience is men versus women?

Cause you can see all the data. It's gotta be like 95, five. The stats would say like 98% are men, but I bet half of those women are lying. Yeah, that's true. We've got Woody's mom. Yes. It watches every minute.

Woodworth! That's about all of it. Yeah, you can tell when our sponsor segments come around in the show that it's almost all men. Yeah. Women don't take our cum volume increasing supplement. It's just big on Bluetooth. Just for the boys lock and load. It's for everyone. It's for know. We haven't run those tests. Yeah, it does end up being for everyone in the end. That's true. Yeah, I think Taylor missed the joke. That's how I was going.

My audience is 97.3% men, so it's a very, very similar. Poker is pretty male heavy. There are some women. Often what happens is guys will introduce their, they'll listen to us with their girlfriends and then their girlfriends will start listening and they'll end up being, I've heard that many times. Yeah, the same. From their girlfriends.

From the girlfriends. The ones that hop into our hangout to get fucked. Or whatever. Yeah. What? Yeah. We have a Patreon hangout we do if you're a $50 a month member and we just have a great time in there. We haven't had a fuck show in a Coons age though.

That makes me feel bad. We used to have a couple of, a couple who would come in. It's a big video conference call with like 25 of us, the three of us and like 22 fans and we do like six hours of this shit a month. And there was one couple that, they'd really go at it. They, they, they, they, they fuck on camera and it made Taylor so awkward. Then I'm not sure what was better than the banging or Taylor's reaction to it. He was so inappropriate. It would be, and it's as dry as if in this call right now, a, a, another

person were to introduce themselves and just two people were to have not great sex while we sat and had a conversation. And then we're all talking and that's happening in one of the squares. Yeah, just right there. Yeah, it was, like I just- And then you hear like a pussy getting slapped a few times. And, ah!

You need, you, you, you, you, oh man, it's like that meme where it's like the giant horde of people and then the one guy in the front saying you're all wrong. That was that was me because I would just I would steal a gaze up there because you can't avoid it. And I'm like, you couldn't have picked up the room. The room up behind you. This seems this is sad. This seems so you were upset

that it was a dirty room. Well, I was upset about the whole the whole cavalcade of events that were unfurling, which was like, we're trying to play code names. And then you just hear pussy slapping and fucking it's nobody wanted to play board games. I promise you, we want to play board games every time. Some of those young men in that call were seeing a vagina for the first time. Well, a human vagina for the first time.

A non still technically digital. yeah. But I'm actually glad. Shout out Midwest. Those people are welcome back, but not, but with clothes on. Come back with clothes on this time. I tell them they're always welcome back without clothes on for free. Because I love the fuck show. I think it's hilarious. I love seeing everybody get all awkward. The whole thing is just just really fun for me Yeah, but it's like Would you think that like watching a homeless guy jack off on a bus was funny? Like he was if he was yeah, if he was in our car if you were in a car looking over maybe No, no if he was in our

Look if any of you homeless guys out there who are part of our 50 a month payment plan Want to jack off on a bus while we watch we'd love to see that shit So so I mean you guys could you do that next week? Yeah, we get one of our fans How about the one episode I'm not on We do this in prize weekends, oh on weekends. Oh good. That's good. Don't worry about that. Now we have a good time. We have a real cast of odd characters. We've got a guy who's been gambling his inheritance away over the course of the last year or so. He inherited call 800 grand and he's been, he doesn't play poker. I don't think he gambles on like Filipino handball

online and like, like crazy shit. Um, and also he likes the ladies. He likes the ladies. Uh, he likes whores, um, and drugs, drugs. He loves cocaine. He likes cocaine. He likes ladies who accept payment for sex and he likes gambling this has been a bad investment strategy so far. That's the unholy Trinity right there. I watch him and I'm so jealous. I watch him and I'm so jealous cause he just doesn't fucking care.

They asked him like yesterday, like, bro, how much you got left? And he knows what they're asking. How much of the inheritance do you have left? And he's like more than a hundred, less than two. And this was one that and said nine months. Yeah. What he asked him, he's like, bro, so what's your plan? You just going to blow your brain out at the end of this. Yes. Something he asked me like what to do. And I was like, I think your plan is suicide. Isn't it? Is it? Are you just slowly killing yourself

until you run out of money and then just end it? Like, what are you doing? Like you've got, you had a beautiful future in front of you. You had like a seven digit inheritance and you've just been draining that down to a six soon to be five digit inheritance. Like you, like what are you doing? Why, even like when I said it?

He had a good quarter million left a good quarter million is the kind of head start that Greases the skids for the rest of your life if you put a quarter million down What is that a free starter house something like that? I mean, maybe I'm a little Any little mortgage and for the rest of your life that man's foot on the back of your neck, that is that monthly mortgage payment is a lot lighter because you were gifted that quarter million, or a million, but now you have a quarter million left and you stopped being stupid just for a moment.

But no, that's not his plan. His plan is more hookers, more blow until it's out. And then he's asking me what he should do. And I'm like, just stop slowly killing yourself. Yeah. I mean, I think it was like- He didn't take it that way though. Really he's put a what he should do and I'm like just stop slowly killing yourself Yeah, I mean I think it was like way though really put a scare into I mean, but there comes a time He's slow art. So he's gonna nice bleeding after that. I believe and I think he also got like a job Yeah, I think he wouldn't got a job to like help staunch the bleeding. Um, I don't know about the whores though. I can't, you wouldn't want to staunch that.

Keep it up, Matt. I think his name is Matt. I think it was like 800 organization after all. Right. Help. What was the, the whores help a whore, right? He's doing a good thing for somebody in need. Oh, owning them for cash. Well, he, I mean, eventually he's, his class of whore is gonna begin to drop off If it hasn't I think he likes the trans ladies, too. I think he mentioned that so it already has I think they might be more expensive. You don't know like what is the supply and demand equation for a tranny whore?

What's how much for top dollar bussy? This is in Europe too. I was asking- So the conversion rate is what I would know. When I was like 18 or 19, I backpacked through Europe with one of my buddies. And then when we got to Amsterdam, we met with some other guys.

And we went to like the red lights district, just like see all of that out of you guys, but it's crazy. So we walked past and then the red light ones are like women. And then you go to the blue light ones and it's like transsexuals. And so we're walking past the blue lights area and we're like, oh shit, we've gone into an area

we probably don't wanna be in. And then we get to the end of it and we all look around each other and we're like, oh my God, that was crazy. And then the last guy walks in and he goes, damn, these women are hot, huh? I was like, I'll pay, but you have to go. There's some guy from Iowa there on business business study, take one evening to look around.

It's crazy here. You know that those are trans women, right? He's like, no, no, they're hot. And I'm like, I'll pay. And he's like, no, no, I'm good. Their dicks are out for a surprise. Look in the window. It's like that internet video where they take the guy with down syndrome to the drag show or whatever. And he's beautiful women beautiful ladies he's got the picture and they're like it's a drag show though see those are those are men they look pretty but beautiful ladies and they get there and I think they he

sees one of them take their wig off and his face just oh why would they take him there and not like a fair? Because he wants some beautiful ladies, you know I mean, why would they pop his balloon? Like that's the mean but he should have just lived the rest of his life Not knowing this thinking that he had a strong attraction to square jawed women. Oh, there's nothing wrong with that Shovel jawed dame Little change of topic here. Did you see what Kanye had commissioned? I don't know. A swastika hat. Like what? Guess again. Guess again.

Hang on. Make it about Kanye though. You're very, I'll say this. You're hot. You're hot. But, but, but it's Kanye West. So he's not a hat guy. So it's probably shoes. It is shoes with a swastika on it. Okay. He's a shoe designer. So that's a good, but, but wrong again, you're actually getting colder. The hat was hot. The shoe is cold.

All right. That's it's your last. All right. That's your last little help. Well, what else is on your head? Glasses? Maybe, maybe swastika glass. Someone else guessed to like take another bad idea off the board.

So I can, what am I supposed to do with this? You're supposed to wonder what Nazi accoutrement he's selling now on his website. Is it something he's selling? Can you give me a little guy? He had commissioned for himself something he had to tweet out about a month and a half ago. He was like, hey, I'm looking to have one of these made for me into a swastika. Hit me up. If you're this type of, we'll say craftsman. I want it to know.

Okay. Uh, I don't know. I'll call a car. He got an iced out swastika necklace that is so big and covered with diamonds. It must've cost half a million dollars or some shit. It's iced out on both sides. Like the front and the back are covered with diamonds. I got a little bit here.

You know what's funny? It's a diamond necklace. So like some Jewish guy in the shop was like, I hate this every second of it. But I take pride in my work. That's what Shane Gillis said. Shane Gillis was like, that must have been the hardest piece of jewelry to get commissioned in all of history.

Oh yeah. Everybody's shooting him down. And then one guy's like, I'll do it. You know, I hate to say I like it, but it is the nicest swastika necklace I've ever seen. That, that, that. If we're making a, this is the best swastika necklace I've ever seen as well, Woody.

Frankly, it's the best swastika I've ever seen. I barely would have noticed the swastika with his teeth. That's how dominating those teeth are. Yeah, he's got a diamond grill or something in that gives him sort of sharp anime teeth. You know in an anime when the girl's got pointy, they're sexy but pointy teeth at the same time, she's like a sexy vampire cat girl like he's got those teeth. I didn't even notice that this swastika has like uh it has like

depth to it like you can see the thickness like that looks like a heavy swastika pendant like I absolutely did he he seems like they kind of got a brag about how much it costs online Did he say anything link there with images? I was hoping that's gonna show I saw the image. I just Make me think of the Dave Chappelle bit right remember Kanye told Chappelle. He's like nice necklace, but Billionaires don't wear necklaces and then you know they keep their chains on the inside they don't show off like that and then he lost all that money he's like chains out bitch well here he is right like showing his chain and he I still can't believe Kanye managed to get that commercial during the Super Bowl

and then have a way back to just like his site with like the like swastika stuff it's like It just surprises me that that was I don't know you must say allowed or why I don't know that you could do that He kind of baited and switched him on that because at the time He there he wasn't selling the swastika stuff and then I think it was like maybe a month or two afterward He started selling the or maybe even later than that and started selling the swastika stuff But even his commercial was like him in a dental chair. Like, Jesus Christ, if it's, look, I'm all for free speech here. If the swastika is so no, no, that you can't even show a picture of Kanye

wearing it while we talk about it without getting auto flagged, then maybe he's got a point. Well, that is retarded. I mean, make fun of anything. I feel like there's obviously free speech is a good thing. But when free speech turns into like, let's rally up people to hate certain groups of people during the Super Bowl feels like kind of not cool to me.

I don't think he would have. If I like him, I stand by his performance. If he would have been doing his Nazi shit in the commercial, there's no way they would have aired it. But he like seemed like he was high on, you know, nitrous and like mumbling out like go to yay.com and buy my, what I imagine are like $800 sneakers made by some probably made by an entire Cambodian village.

Just so sewing that shit together. So yeah, I tend to, this is like, this is so much commitment to being a Nazi. Like if Hitler saw this, he'd be like, ah, little much. Like, this is kind of gauche, you know, tasteless, tacky, you know? Like this. He'd be so proud.

He'd be so proud of this. This would rejuvenate his spirits even well. Nah, Hitler had better fashion sense thing loving Well, he learned that Hitler. I don't think he was making any fashion decisions He was just letting Hugo Boss take the reins. He knew he knew who to hire I think in the next World War we should get Hugo Boss so that you know a hundred years from now people are like damn Look how spiffy start now, right? They attack their allies for no reason, but their dress code was dope They look fantastic Look how spiffy they are. Right. They attacked their allies for no reason, but their dress code was dope.

They looked fantastic. They were so fit. And we'll only need to send fit soldiers. Although that was a thing. All the soldiers in World War II were fit. There aren't really any pictures of big fat ones. Well they were all we had. There wasn't enough food.

Yeah. It's like there's not enough food to be fat. Yeah. We talked about this recently. The average weight of an enlisted man was like 150 pounds. And then after bootcamp, it was like 165. Like they were just, they needed food. The other way it's like 180 and after bootcamp, it's 165.

I bet. I bet. There's no telling. Um, I don't think we've talked about it, but recruitment, not say what you will about the Trump administration, but as far as military recruitment numbers go, it's the best it's ever been. Or at least in modern history. Yeah. Everybody wants to go fight those future wars for for for Emperor Trump. He's like a scary time to join up. I wouldn't I wouldn't want to go potentially fight. This is the time. Fight Iran. Why are you always on about Iran?

We're going to take it out, Greenland and then Panama and then the crown jewel of North America, Canada. No, we are the crown jewel, not them. They're the hat, they're the hat. Yeah, they actually know we can be the crown. They can be the crown jewel. We'll just be friends again. Exactly, exactly. I mean, we'd be friends or, or, or, you know, they could just be,

you know, Americans, you know, um, you know, so, uh, president Polk, there was a Polk president and he was like, well known for expanding America. He like was Louisiana purchase, all this shit. Um, and, uh, or whatever. It's just not expansion. And Trump had whatever pictures of presidents taken down from the oval office and brought president Polk in there almost as like a sign of like we need to expand the country once again and do like what what Polk did and I'm like it's nice so you just like to see you like to see your predecessors getting some getting some play good for you are you have you ever looked into genealogy and seen if you were perhaps related with President Polk. So it's kind of interesting. So, so any president's lineage is super well

documented. So like that stuff's really good. And then my grandma did this big genealogy research thing. So like, I actually know the Polk's going back like seven generations and they came from Tennessee and he came from Tennessee. And so there's like an Alfred Polk I can't trace. And then there's an Alfred Polk in the president Polk's family tree. So it's like quite likely,k I can't trace. And then there's an Alfred Polk in the President Polk's family tree. So it's like quite likely, but I can't like prove it. Nice. You should just say it just moving forward. Just claim it. The fact that you can't prove it means that no one can disprove it. So I can't disprove it. That's true. Yeah, true. I want to see how much did he add to the country.

Paul, you know what? I even like the idea of rotating out the president portraits because it does seem a little a little much where it's less like Washington all the time. Fucking Lincoln all the time. Yeah. So we got a bunch of great guys back there. Let's rotate some new ones in, get some fresh faces. It'd be like, Oh, you know what? I, I would like to know a little more about fucking Woodrow Zachary Taylor. What did he do? Present Taft would be great to learn a little bit about. I think. Yeah, we need to fix his legacy. It's all about him in the fucking bathtub.

Maybe a little, maybe a little Grover Cleveland. Grover Cleveland. You just want the fat ones. A little bit of a Chevy chaser over here. Did you see what Donald Trump added to his Oval Office? What did he add? Comedy? The original copy, the original copy of the Declaration of Independence is now on his wall.

Where was it before? It is locked away in the Smithsonian in an underground vault. It is so sensitive to sunlight, they had to install curtains around it. So when he's showing it off, you like like pulls little curtains apart that are just on the wall and reveals the Declaration of Independence. That's pretty sick, actually. Yeah, that is isn't it cool to still have that? Like 100 like when will that just fall apart due to being paper?

It's written on hemp. Written on hemp. Does that mean it's going to take longer to fall apart? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Well, that's good. Our founding fathers were geniuses. Forward thinking.

Isn't it crazy though that they came up with a system that's been this resilient for this long. It's pretty nuts. Like to have the foresight to create something that could withstand all of this bullshit after all these years, it's pretty sick. So far. They, they, they say that, Oh, they stole a lot from the Greeks. No Greeks.

It's all us. It's all us. No help at all. America. We invented the Republic. That's right. Yep. It wasn't something for eons throughout Europe. The term Senator was a new word. A totally new word. No one had conceived of this before. There weren't, Socrates didn't have reams of written works on.

No, I saw all the goobers in Discord are pouring over the newly released JFK files. I guess they released like 80,000 pages of formerly classified JFK files. I guess they released like 80,000 pages of formerly classified JFK files. So far all I've seen is little inconsequential tidbits of nonsense. It's gonna take forever for anybody to go through that and see anything.

I had people like, hey, are you reading through the files? Are you retarded? What the fuck is wrong with you? First of all, No, I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3. This elf isn't going to level itself. Goddamn right. And that's something because I know how to level an elf in Baldur's Gate 3.

What business do I have reading through 80,000 pages of files from 1960s? Get out of here with that. Like you're going to, you're some internet detective. Let some expert look at it and then tell us what they found. They're like, oh, turns out. What a Let some expert look at it and then tell us what they found. They're like, oh, turns out. What a lazy way to look at it. It's 80,000 pages of old, like in-

If all of us- There's not a narrative. Just one, Kyle. If we get all the just one. Kyle, if I may, what you're saying is you would like the mainstream media to figure out what happened and then just present it to you.

And then that way you know. Don Lemon specifically. I want Don Lemon to pour through the files and then he'll get back to me on what the truth is. No, I want like, I'm happy with like crackpot internet sleuths who are competent at this sort of thing and have done similar things. Maybe they have a legal background

or a journalism background to go through those files. But the idea that some, trust me, some of the people that I've talked to are gonna go through those files. It's just not. Did you guys see some of the outrage with the MLK stuff that was released? Some of the stuff that came out with that?

No. Oh, I saw where they were like the Soviet Union warned. I guess the Soviet Union warned us about JFK and MLK. And we didn't, we didn't listen. Well, I didn't know about that one, but I more meant like, I don't want to say this in case like I'm, I resumably there was a troll or something, but there was like some promiscuous activity and there was some like non becoming behavior

from, from MLK. So what I know, what I know. Um, and I thought it's always been sort of historical fact, Jager Hoover, the FBI was giving him a hard time. They're investigating. They were spying on him. They were bugging him. And I believe they had an audio recording of him having like loud, boisterous sex with I thought his wife.

But I've also heard people say another woman. Yeah. In either case, what you're definitely hearing is his all Lord and Lord hallelujah. That pussy is good. No, that's funny. They should release that. Wow. That's so dirty talk. I hope that goes live. I have a dream. Yeah, I've heard that too, where they held sex stuff or adultery or impropriety over his head

to try and get him to do and behave the way. So no, I don't think that's like a fresh conspiracy or anything. Like I've heard that for a while. Yeah, but they had it like in the files, they released like a bunch of shit in there. There was a lot of there was a lot of not good shit. I briefly read through it. I'm sure there's some as Kyle puts some crack pot crack pot legal expert that can break it down for us a bit better. But I'll leave it to the professionals or the amateurs.

BBC according to Zach are saying that Dr. King took part in quote, drunken sex orgies and quote coerced young women to participate in them. Oh, so they take those statues down. Let's get out in the parks tonight. Let's start tearing those statues down. How young? Like I would agree with you if they were under 18. Let's see. This actually makes them look a bit better. Oh yeah. What do we got? Among its accusations are that Dr. King was surrounded by advisors with strong links to the Communist Party. His statements were always subject to approval by the alleged communist sympathizers. He was a secret supporter of communism, a wholehearted Marxist.

His organization, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, set up a tax dodge to raise funds for its activities. And then, yeah, exactly what he said. Drunken sex orgies and young women had love affairs with four women, at least four women, including folk singer Joan Baz. Bias. Bias. Okay. I didn't know who that was. Yeah, this is what it says in the documents, at least. King is a wholehearted Marxist who has studied it, believes in it, and agrees with it,

but because of his being a minister of religion, does not dare to espouse it publicly. Okay. Well, that's interesting. Yeah, I was a little more interested. I was more interested in the Orges. about it publicly. Okay. Well, that's interesting. Yeah, I was a little more interested. I was more interested in the- It gets more interesting. The orgies.

One room had a large table that was filled with whiskey. The two Negro prostitutes were paid $50 to put on a sex show for the entertainment of the guests. A variety of sex acts deviating from the norm were observed. Okay. Oh my. Tell me more. Deviating from the norm. It sounds like. Okay. Oh my. Tell me more. Deviating from the norm.

It sounds like they pay you guys $50 a month. Yeah. Yeah. Dr. King would be a fine addition. He would. He's smiling down at us. They would fit in right here. The city of Atlanta.

Dude, the city of Atlanta is gonna go under now. You know how much it's gonna cost to rename all those fucking roads and streets do this There's one of there's a MLK Boulevard in every single city. What are we gonna do now? We call that crime alley What if What if they swing back too far though, and we have a bunch of David Duke Boulevard's We don't want that. I don't know. There's no place is named. I don't see any kind of right-wing propaganda coming up these days. No, no, certainly not that. I don't actually know what that guy's up to.

I know the pictures of David Duke. Well, Dr. King is dead, but David Duke looks like he is a lot of series of strokes, like, no, like skin tightening facelifts. Oh, like you remember in always sunny when like Charlie's on acid and he's like, your skin's too tight. That's what fucking David Duke looks like. Every time I've seen a picture of that dude for like a new story of like ex KKK guy, I can't, yeah, he's fucking 74 way too tight. Do you see what I'm saying with the tight skin?

I didn't see a picture tight-skinned Yeah tight skin. Yeah. Well, I I just don't you know Martin Luther King is you guys knows a Hero of mine so finding you won't shut up about this is upsetting to you. I'm sure I I mean I dress up as Martin Luther King Every year for Halloween. Yeah, but I've told you to tone the lips down as Martin Luther King every year for Halloween. Yeah, but I've told you to tone the lips down. Look, he had I try to make it as realistic as I can. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that that that my makeup skills aren't up to par. OK, I'm just trying to show solidarity, solidarity.

Great, American just saying I'm going to a party as MLK Jr. and then looking like Al Jolson, like just the most offensive. Did you think the shutter, the shutter glasses were like over the top? I did. I thought they were, those were tasteless. Yeah, that's what everybody worried about. Was there anything else good about JFK or MLK in there?

I did, I saw a bunch of people making a to do about JFK and being like, oh, it was the CIA and Israeli intelligence and the mob was involved. And it's like, okay, well, these are all existing theories. So like, there's nothing, no, no more supporting evidence that is a bit vague and supportive of multiple theories, which is what we always find, but no smoking gun. Um, but some little details and tidbits, I think maybe it wasn't released earlier that Jack Ruby, or Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby twice. I think maybe the report was once. Like maybe that's a new tidbit and it's like,

who fucking cares? Like little stuff like that, that I've seen. But we'll see, I don't know. Being president is pretty fucking dangerous. People try to kill you. It is. Pretty brutal, you know? Trump, they tried to kill him once or twice lately.

Yeah. Yeah. There was actually a third. Is there a more dangerous job than president? It's probably number one, right? If you get rid of other presidents, like the you being the president of the U S I don't think is the most dangerous presidents to be US just to be clear. I wasn't talking about like, of all the jobs here. Yeah, definitely. So how many we've had like 47 presidents, right? And how many have been killed?

Well, not even is it 47 presidents or 47 presidents? Forty-five presidents, right? Because two got two numbers. Okay. So then Lincoln got, you know, Lincoln in JFK and Reagan got shot. And you got to count the attempts to like, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Reagan got shot. Reagan's like, yeah, count me. It's not safe. Yeah. Roosevelt got shot. Trump got shot. So that's, and then your health also, your health also like descends into like, just terribly like you age, like, you know, 20 years and like four or eight years.

A lot of presidents died like right after their term. I think that might happen with Biden going out on a limb. Yeah. He's going to die soon at 82. You know, the dice roll day at that point. If I was if I was a gambling man, Woody, I'd be taking the under. Yeah. That's how you're going to win. When this 100 grand back is a side par. I got the I got the under. Yeah. That's how you're going to win. When this 100 grand back is a side I got the I got the under on Biden,

the under on 85. I think I would take that as well. Yeah. So what is that, like four or five president shot? Do you like they try to kill one in nine of them or succeed? Do you ever do any profits like that? Like like any silly political or pop culture stuff like is this celebrity couple going to stay together like like that like like any silly political or pop culture stuff?

Like is this celebrity couple gonna stay together like like like that would be a fun one like like the over-under on a celebrity Relationship or something like that. Well, I don't I don't do that best specifically But if you know like a good group of guys you can gamble on whatever I mean The Super Bowl is like the like the gamblers holiday, the annual holiday. Basically you just gave one basically everything. And so it's just hilarious. You go out there, there's a toy, the coin toss, someone wins like 10 K. And then it's like the national anthem, like, come on under,

come on under. Oh no, she's coming. She's holding the note. Like it's, you know, and then, and then like I've had a bunch of Taylor Swift profits where it's like, I need a touchdown before Taylor Swift. And so you're just like hoping the Eagles get the ball. I don't know. It's like all this stuff. There's some parlays like Chiefs win plus Swift Kelsey marriage was like plus 1200. You get some good odds on that.

Ooh, didn't get there. They know they're they lost and they're not going to break up. I don't know if it's true. I mean, that's the bet. No, I like those. I like those. I like that. Specifically, the coin toss is always a fun one and the national anthem.

Like you said, I like the I like the pop culture stuff. I saw the betting on the presidency was crazy online. We watched that very closely. We had a small bet here. So and of course, we're invested in the race in general, you know, because it's the future of the world. So we were watching those betting odds every day, just go up and down. And I was basing a lot of like my confidence in Trump, or at least my early confidence in Trump on those betting odds. I always like to think that media outlets will lie to you,

or they can be manipulated or swayed or they can just be giving you their version of something even, but a gambler will tell you the truth because money's at stake, his money. Yeah, I mean, that's why markets are better than opinions. Like one of the things that really upsets me as a gambler is I'll hang out with someone and then they'll be like, and they'll just say something.

And I'll go, oh, that's not true, I'll bet you. And they're like, oh, I don't bet. I'm like, oh, so you're full of shit. Yeah. You're full of shit. I just offered to put a quarter million down. That's even if it's, even if it's a dollar dude, even it was like 10 bucks, just like,

if you say something is true and then someone says no, and there's a verifiable way to prove it. And then you're just like, oh no, I don't bet. I'm not gonna bet $1. Like you're just throwing out worthless words. Yeah, Kyle's done that to me before on the show where he'll like, he'll knowingly bring up a topic and be like, did you know that in 1940,

the CIA trained dozens of military dolphins? And I'm like, you're retarded, there's no way. And he's like, I wanna bet, I wanna bet right now, real money, right now, bet. And I'm like, and and he's like, want to bet? Want to bet right now? Real money right now, bet. I'm suddenly like, ah, I guess I'm going to train in golf in the 40s because he wouldn't have this brash level of confidence. Yeah, it only backfired on me once. Neil deGrasse Tyson had this talk where he talked about how two basketballs will go through a hoop side by side. And what he meant was they'll fit side by side, but they won't go through. The width of the hoop is almost exactly the width of two basketballs,

which is much larger than you would imagine because you think of one barely going in. And so I bet him that two basketballs would go through side by side. Neil deGrasse Tyson lied to me. He owes me $10. That son of a bitch. I didn't pay. I had forgotten about it till now. Yeah, it's like nine and a quarter inches versus 18.

So almost double, but not double. So that is crazy. I didn't realize it was that much. There's that much bigger like extra room, right? Like it seems like it should barely fit. But when you shoot a basketball as someone that rarely does, you're like, this is hard. Like these, these people, especially as the nets I shoot on are smaller.

That's that's often called NBA net. Yeah. I got one of those civilian hoops, not like in the NBA. They use a big. That's why it looks so easy. It's also seven feet. That's why that Lebronnie James can get up so high. so easy. It's also seven feet. That's why that Lebronnie James can get up so high. Does your love of strategy for poker translate to any gaming, like video games, strategy games you also love?

Yeah. So I love video games, but I kind of can't play them because I just get way too competitive. And before I know it, three months have gone by and I'm like yelling at someone for guarding the wrong bomb site. And I'm like, what am I gone by and I'm like yelling at someone for guarding the wrong bombsite I'm like, what am I what am I doing? You know So but I really like Counter-Strike. It's probably one of my favorite games and then I really liked this get called Warcraft 3 It's like basically like Starcraft or whatever. Those were probably my favorite ones back in the day But I feel like games nowadays kind of suck. It's like everything is just basically like it's like how can we make this more of a freemium model where we're really trying to sell

skins? And like, it's just, I just feel like that. I liked it when they made a good game that had some good strategy components. There's like a lot of depth to it and all skill to it. And it just seems like gaming is headed kind of in the opposite direction from that. Is there some you're dying to sell your game, aren't you, Kyle, I am too. I wasn't gonna do that necessarily. I was gonna say

that he's mostly right. But are a few gems that and the reason that Woody and I, Woody, me and Taylor each have a game that fits this model where it's like these don't do that though. These just make amazing games give them to us for a flat rate and then everything else is fucking free because they're in it for the love of the game. They're like communist video game developers of the highest order and you love to have that in your video game developer I live stream my game gate three um I did a five minute rant about how glorious it is that there's no store before the start button Because I just can't get over the fact that in our Lord's year of 2025, there's no micro

transaction store. Like you don't walk through the gift shop on the way to your game. Yeah. Long after Baldur's Gate and Elden Ring are outdated and forgotten. Age of Empires 2 will continue. Great. Grinding forward. It's no best game ever. Play. Play. Three and a four. Is it there? They're not as popular. Two is the only two is like one of the most popular. So what you're saying is it's a dying game that that soup that it's a dying genre. How long before like computers won't even be able to run that game? You know? Oh my god, we're so far past the point where like you could run this on a

pregnancy test. Like, far past the point. We're like you could run this on a pregnancy test like It's the easiest shit in the world They will never they will never make a PC bad enough to not run age of empires If someone tells you like, oh, yeah, I failed the benchmark test for age of empires to multiplayer It's like what are you talking to me on right now? for Age of Empires 2 multiplayer. It's like, what are you talking to me on right now? The only thing that annoys me about the fact that Taylor loves that 20 year old video game. And he's remastered it six years ago. It's great. And he plays it a ton. His PC is like $4,000. It can run anything. He has a top of the line. Like there's not a component in there that he

could have gotten a better one He went overkill for modern 40 90 don't you? Yeah? Yeah It runs it runs Age of Empires 2 so clean and crisp Monitors not even set to go higher than 60 frames per set. No, it is it is I changed it I wouldn't be shocked. This monitor was plugged into the motherboard Yeah I wouldn't be shocked if this monitor was plugged into the motherboard. It's plugged into the motherboard? Go ahead. I did something a little similar. So I had a well-known challenge.

We probably talked about it last time where I played it versus Dan O'Granu and like a big heads up match. And so to study, I got like a top of the line PC because like it can, I told you like there's software that can get answers to the questions, right? So if your computer is really powerful, it can do it really quickly. So I got like the top thread ripper, like whatever graphics card was the top, I built this thing. I just went ham. I spent like thousands and thousands of dollars on this thing and then it ended. And now I just

use that computer to like record YouTube videos. And you're just like, this is some serious overkill on our all 64 cores engaged because I want to I want to have a joke here after this. This hand review. That's exactly the situation I was in. I played this is a I've had this computer like three years now or so. And when I first bought it, Kyle and I were playing this game together called Total War Warhammer three maybe two or three, I think

three. Yeah. And it's like, it's not as sophisticated and RTS is like a year Warcraft. It's more just about the battle itself. But you can zoom in on it. And the graphics are on unreal how good it is like every if you have a troop of like, pirate skeleton warriors or something. It's not like they're all doing that, like, lean forward and lean back thing like they have little personality, like some of them are taking a little horn out to It's not like they're all doing that like lean forward and lean back thing. Like they have little personality. Like some of them are taking a little horn out to drink grog and another one's yelling.

And they have like individual voice. Like you can scroll down into any unit and like go ahead. There's a hundred and eighty of them there, but you can zoom in and look at each one's earring. And it's unreal. Many one hundred and eighties. It's unreal how how incredible the graphics are in this game. And after like three weeks, I got, we stopped playing it and I switched to age of empires too.

And now it's like a refreshing surprise when my friends convinced me to try a new game. Like what was the one where you're flying around to other planets, Kyle, and you're like a fascist or something. No you're like a fascist and you're like killing bugs. That game sucked. Oh, Helldivers. Helldivers, like even Helldivers. And I played that with you.

I was like, oh man, I have a great computer. Like this looks so good. And Helldivers is one of the prettiest games currently on the end of the world. Yeah, it looks good. It's beautiful. When I got this computer, I wanted something capable of playing games,

even though I wasn't really into games at the time. And I'm like, 10,000 CUDA cores. I hope TurboTax knows what it's got here. Okay. Okay. Okay. This is not a standard deductions kind of year. Just change numbers and watch my calculated tax get updated instantly.

Yeah. I know what you mean about the games. Games just don't, new games don't suck me in as much and it's cause it feels like half of it's paywall. Yeah. I mean, I feel like, um, I feel like when we were younger, when people made a game, they tried to make it like a compelling story and like interesting concept and maybe like a lot of skill into it or whatever. And I just feel like that type of game is less popular now because they're hard and

they're like, is a little harder to differentiate. There's so many games. Yeah. Like one of the things that I didn't understand is just how expensive maybe I misread the article. Did GTA six cost $2 billion? It better be fucking great. Did it cost as much as a B2 stealth bomber

to make Grand Theft Auto 6? Like in fact, check me on that because I'm just- That almost scares me because it means someone's laundering money. Like there's no doubt. According to a Rocksteady Games link, the total budget for GTA 6 will be roughly 2 billion Oh my god, you know what I mean?

Like so so they spent a decade and 2 billion dollars making that video game that is going to be what you're you you're describing It's gonna be a masterpiece the same kind of I don't know what Baldur's Gate 3 cost You see what Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 cost that would that Elden Ring wasn't it was an amazing game by the way I put I put that one in a shot. What is the master of Elden Ring? He is my addiction. What can be the game with a pot on his head and a shitty spoon in his left hand? You know what I like about that game? It is like very skill heavy, like just like the dodge timing.

And I like that there's I like when a game is hard and you can kind of figure it out as you go along and then you like build up the skillset, you know? It's a great game. Shadow of the Earthshed was awesome, awesome as well expansion. The DLC, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I like it a lot.

How many hours do you have? I'm curious. I probably. Do you know? So I did two runs because I wanted to like get the, so I did the one run and probably it was like 150 hours, something like that. And then I did another run because I wanted to have like a

new character for the DLC. So I probably, I probably spent like 400 hours or three, three 50s and like that. It's a lot of good person to ask our genius question to. We were discussing a couple of days ago on our other show, like, like what a genius is, what our versions of a genius is. Could a genius be, could it be just this one little avenue that a person has genius in?

Because I was thinking about that guy who's the Scrabble World Champion. That guy, that guy doesn't, I don't know what his home language is. I think he's a Kiwis from New Zealand, so English. But I believe he won the Scrabble World Championship in English, French, and Spanish languages he doesn't know.

He doesn't speak them. Just by memorizing the dictionaries. He has their dictionaries and he read them and he memorized the words but not the meanings. And then he proceeded to beat all of the natural... Are you talking about David Eldar? Uh, whoever. I mean... Dude, David Eldar is a famous poker player who also plays

Scrabble and he's from that part of the world. Yeah, he said, yeah, David Elder. Yeah. His name was, his name was Dell Dar in the poker streets and he played like the highest stakes poker games in the world. I'm thinking of Nigel Richards, a New Zealand Scrabble player who's widely considered the greatest of all time. He's known for his ability to win Scrabble championships in multiple languages, English, French, and Spanish, even though he doesn't speak those languages.

Another guy like that, not to derail the topic because I do want to hear Doug's opinion on geniuses, but Pete Buttigieg, he learned Norwegian because he had an upcoming vacation. He's read some of his favorite books are in Norwegian. He can, and I was like, really? A reporter asked him about it. He's like, yeah, that part's actually true. So she had him say shit in Norwegian on the spot and he could

do it all. If I was going on like a vacation or what I would do is just like look it up on a map like oh it's over there. But already genius because like my definition was far easier to be a genius in than Kyle's Kyle's I think he might have stuck to the real one, which is 140 IQ. And I was like, nah, you know, like basketball, I'm sorry, LeBron is a basketball genius. I've heard that guys describe plays that had happened

with like play-by-play memory that I could never do. I see a guy who plays guitar. There's one dude, his like neck tattoos, he's aging. Maybe some other people have seen him too. He is incredible. And I'm like, that's a kind of genius. I even extend it to certain people who just handle like, people and like emotions really well. And like that guy's EQ is so high. He gets on Woody's little version

of the genius list, which is easier to get on to than some others. How do you can someone be so good at poker, they're a genius? Or do they have to have the 140 IQ? What's a genius to you? So poker is a really interesting game because there are lots of really smart people that play poker and are terrible.

Because the skill set for poker requires things like emotional control, discipline, being realistic about your abilities and shortcomings and strengths. So you have like these doctors and lawyers in poker games, like they're like the worst players, you're just like, clearly, these are smart people, right? So the skillset can be can be kind of different. I mean, I guess like, when I think of a genius, I more just view it as someone that's in just the most extreme upper echelon of that given topic. Right. So like, I don't know if it's like the top, like, you know, 0.1% or 0.01%, but I just view it

as like, on a subject, do you have like a control, like a knowledge base, or maybe not knowledge per se, but like, do you understand it better than like 99.99% of people? Like within it, within a field, like you're saying like LeBron, right? So like he's clearly a basketball genius. Now he's not a traditional genius, probably safe to say, probably. So, so I guess like within, within a subset, I would say that, but then like the traditional word for the traditional bar for genius 140 IQ, IQ is like not always great, you know, has like some flaws in the algorithm, especially as you get older.

So I guess I would just say that if you're in like the top, very small percentage of people, I view that as a genius. That topic that's closer to my definition, I would think. I think so. Yeah. I like the like, No, because you can, because that's something that you can train to do

that's something that like you can take an average schmo and Force him like the Romans used to did you like ah you're a cobbler now, but please say no Kill his wife. Oh, no. Oh, she's dead now You're a cobbler now bring the boy forth and he just trains the rest of his life to be a fucking cobbler as hard as he can Because they're gonna take his children's hands. Like that guy's not a shoe genius. That guy just worked hard and got good at a thing. Like a shoe genius is the kid who's like the one of those African kids that make shoes out of old tires and fucking six pack holders.

And you're like, Holy shit, you made a shoe on your own. Your people don't even have the wheel. That's incredible. I don't, I don't think what he means though, that it's because like LeBron can dunk. He's a genius. I think he's saying like the way that LeBron understands what happens in process is the game. And I don't know if that's actually something because like there are lots of basketball players that are very athletic and have these, but then like these can never make it because they're too dumb,

like too dumb at basketball. They don't understand where's the defense, where do I need to be? Like, whereas LeBron is just brilliant with that. So I don't know if that's something that can really be learned that well. You sell me on that. You sell me on that because it's a skill I have no even a shred of, um, with basketball in particular, but I got to imagine that it's just a learned skill. It's the thing he loves the most and it's the thing he does every day. And he's paid a billion dollars to do it and worse than that he's good at it.

The NBA is impressed with his ability to recall and see a game unfold. Those people are all paid to do it too. Yeah, LeBron's something special. He's like a current Gretzky. Gretzky, right? Like, he's not Gretzky. There's a debate about whether he's better than Jordan. But like with, like if, if LeBron James were five foot eight, no one knows his name. He's not famous. He's probably. Just cause there's another good player

in basketball history. It means he's not as good as the only good hockey player to ever bother to play that silly game. You like hockey. I'm just, I know. No, I just look on bridge with, you know with you know, he's in his own league. You gotta give put some respect on. You just saw him in that MAGA hat. The great one. Like this is this truly is the great one. No, he's the great one because he has more points, more assists than

anyone else has points. Man, he fucked up with that MAGA hat. The Canadians love their sovereignty more than their hockey. That's a mistake. They're better at hockey. Now that is 100% true. If Canada was going to defend its sovereignty, they'd be better off having a hockey tournament than a war. Oh, if there was like some obscure, if there was like, that would be a great movie. There's like some obscure thing where Trudeau

or maybe even the king, cause maybe he still has sovereignty. He's like, all right, if you want it, play for it. And then they'd have to play a game. America's so sure they could win a war. When was the last time they did it? The last war? Did they beat Russia and Ukraine?

Did they beat Afghanistan? Did they beat Vietnam? Did they beat Vietnam? When's the last time America really won a war? Probably World War II. You have to decide what you mean by one though. I'll decide on the fly as I try to prove you wrong. Yeah. Ah, you didn't expect that. Chris Ross. I think it's achieving your stated goals at the at the out at the beginning of the conflict. So Vietnam's an L, you know, like we did. We lost it to the commies, right? 100%.

That's an L. But Afghanistan, we got to some of Aladdin. I felt like that was what we were there for. And the fact that they moved the flag to like, we need to turn Afghanistan into San Diego or something or into like Phoenix, Arizona, they're gonna be just like us like the goalpost of that then that's an L2 but it should have been just like I remember a very large mission accomplished science I'm pretty sure we won that one that was a rack right wasn't that a rack must be another way that was a win too yeah that definitely didn't you know now I'm looking back on these are all wins Kyle

this is a good point. Yeah, there's a mission accomplished. Iraq banner was so early. It would be like leaving Lord of the Rings after Isildur gets the ring. I was going to be like, who the bad guys are defeated. Quick, easy story. Mission accomplished. Isildur is the guy who uses the shards of Narsil to cut off the hand of Sauron as he's about to kill him.

If that was Star Wars, there'd still be yellow words on the screen when that takes place. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we did get a little over our skis, it seems, with the rack. We're like, it's gonna be done soon enough anyway. I remember it differently. So what I remember is we went in there and the Iraqi army folded

a few weeks later, maybe a month, something like that after Christmas for sure. Maybe in the new year we got Saddam. They hung him. They killed him. We threw up a temporary government, our puppet, and it was like winners, winner chicken dinner, flew the flag, and then like a few months later, the insurgency began. We should have left and turned the cameras off right after all that shit I just said. There was no reason to stick around. So like Kyle said, the US went in there.

We kind of clearly won, if you call it that. And then we disbanded the Iraqi military. And now you have all these ex-soldiers with no money looking for something to do and in comes the insurgency. It was a strategic error. Oh, I think we should have left. We shouldn't have been there. We should have left. We should not have made all their fighting forces broken hungry. It turns out that creates more war. That was a mistake for sure. And in the first Gulf War, when we turned on the rebels, right?

Schwarzkopf, we won the war and the Iraqis were like, all right, we surrendered and everything, war over. Can we fly our helicopters in the north and put down that rebellion? Those Kurds are just going ape shit. And we were like, well, actually, we're friends with the Kurds we've been helping them fight you during you know this war we just had but sure yeah fly your helicopters do your thing put that quell that rebellion of our former friends and they they went in there and gassed them all to death did I don't remember how many thousands maybe maybe 5,000 Kurds were gassed to death dead in the streets our former allies allies, that was a strategic. The US has a history of doing that that's getting hard to ignore.

Whether it be turning our back in the Kurds, turning our back in Syria, turning our back in Afghanistan, turning our back in Ukraine, turning our back on everyone but Israel. If you're the next person who needs help and America is saying, we'll be your friend. You better win this war. Nine months.

Just hearing the word Israel made my heart swell. God, I love that people. Everything our most important ally. Definitely. Don't ask for reasons. You've where would we have been during the revolutionary war? If you ask for reasons, you're an anti-Semite. Definitely. Don't ask for reasons you fucking move. Where would we have been during the Revolutionary War? If you ask for reasons, you're an anti-Semite. Yeah.

These people, we just got to keep going to the Middle East. We've got to keep the... I don't really like the Middle East, I got to tell you the truth. I don't think it's been a good thing for us. It seems like it's been a huge negative at every turn. We keep running at that football like this is the time it's going to work out. Did something bad happen over there or what? No, I'm just kidding. Yeah.

Actually. So, so my, my parents have met in the middle East. They met in Saudi Arabia. Both my parents are fluent in Arabic, which is, I mean, they're very white. So that's pretty sick. Yeah. So when I was a kid, they would like say Arabic stuff in the house. And when you're a little kid, you don't, you don't realize there's different languages. So like, I just thought when you go somewhere, you'll yell, yeah, happy be like, come my love, let's go. And so I'm like a little kid saying stuff or like, if you're relieved,

like how did it law? I said one of these things at school and some kids was like, what the fuck's wrong with you? That's so funny to randomly know just a couple things in there just enough so that if you say it in front of your Uber driver, you're then having to nod. He's thinking you're garnering everything he's saying. I was watching or I was reading. It was the manual that US soldiers were given who were fighting in the North African campaign

during World War Two. And it was some do's or don'ts when interacting with Muslim culture and it was fascinating to read because it was very straightforward it was meant for the servicemen to read guys with little to no education and it was it was like Muslims and it's like make no mistake about this when it comes to their women Muslims are very protective. Do not speak to them, do not touch them, do not look at them.

Like went page by page on this, is like how to like interact with Muslims and how to treat their mosques. And it was really cool. I love little pieces of history like that. That's why I was fascinated and I'm gonna buy that deck of cards from Iraq during Iraq. When we went in to get Saddam and then the whole regime, they made a playing deck of cards and Saddam Hussein is one of the Aces

Uday and Koussey Hussein are two more of the Aces. I don't remember maybe chemical Ali or somebody's the fourth days. And then they break down the rest of the deck with lesser wanted members of the regime and this was distributed to all of the United all the allied servicemen from all the countries millions of decks were made and And that way everyone had on them 52 pictures of the faces of the guys were after that way if they try to blend in or they try to hide among the population you pull out your deck of cards and be like if they try to blend in or they try to hide among the population, you can pull out your deck of cards and be like That's the jack of clubs right there snatch his ass up and you know And apparently we made so many of these that they're you get them now for like 20 30 bucks or something, dude

I was like, you know Kyle sold me on how fascinating this is. I'm gonna pop on eBay two decks for eight dollars and eighty-eight cents There's a discount if you buy six or more how many of these decks did they I can make eBay two decks for $8 and 88 cents. There's a discount if you buy six or more, how many of these texts did they, I can make. We were, we were in it for the long haul. We thought it was going to be a longer war, I guess, than it was sealed in plastic too, for $8. Yeah.

We had to have made like 20 million decks. And I mean, we sent like a quarter million men or something, but that's still like way too many. Did you see there was a big story going around about how they did some sort of analysis on the pyramids in Giza and they're trying some people are trying to say there's a bunch of additional structures under there that they don't know what they are, but they're saying there seems to be like pillars going down and that there's like a big cube, like a 19 by 19 meter cube that

the pillars are attached to, like some sort of seismograph or like whatever topographical measurement they use. We saw the beginning of Jurassic Park. I skimmed a little bit about it and watched a video and it seems it's one of those things that just like dinosaurs having scales, I'm like seeing it and it's so cool. I'm like, please don't be a fakery. Please be real. Please let there be something sick under the pyramids.

I don't want to see two weeks from now, someone come out and be like, those studies were flawed. They used a technology of seismogigery that didn't actually comport with industry standard or whatever. I want it to be real, so bad. You saw a month ago, a month ago they found like a new tomb

with new sarcophagus, sarcophagi in it. And they opened them on live television to reveal like a brand new badass looking mummy with all the like accoutrement you know like all the all the riches and stuff that's sick that was neat yeah i don't know it is a little i i heard someone say that the mummy was a racist um like like a word like the idea of a mummy being like a monster alongside Dracula and Frankenstein is racist. And I started thinking about it.

It's like, yeah, that's just that's just how they bury people there. And our misunderstanding of it makes it into like a ghoulish monster. Well, it's how they buried the kings. It's how they like, yeah. Well, not just kings. I think lots of people were mummified and buried in that manner. One of the interesting things about they would, and this is still true today, human nature is disgusting. They would wait to all the female mummies that have been found are in much worse condition than the male mummies they found. Do you know why? Yes, because some fucking band of raiders in the year 1000 BC broke in and messed with them. No, the mummies that have not been touched. They crack open a new sarcophagi, you got a male mummy,

female mummy. The female mummy is always in worse condition. I have, I mean, I'm just guessing out of nowhere that the people who prepared the bodies treated the female bodies with a little more hands off, maybe because they're girls, like boobs. Higher fat content? See, opposite of what Woody said. During that time, the fear was that your female relative would be molested

at the old mummification plant. Wow, times never change. If you sent her in too fresh. So you want to wait two or three days, let her ripen up, that way they're not going to want to finger bang your grandma down at the mummification plant. So when you find a female mummy, she had ripened up for two or three days. The dudes, they just rush them right in there. Get grandpa in there, suck his brains out, put that weird goo on it. Put it in the clay pot with the fucking Anubis on it. Yeah, yeah.

That I love history. That's true today in that mortuaries, crematoriums, anywhere where bodies are stored, housed, or facilitated in some manner or another, do not like hiring men for that position. So how does Nicolas Cage fit into this? Yeah, how does he Cage fit into this? Yeah. How does he fit in?

Well, not well at all. I don't, I don't think I didn't, I didn't, I didn't have much to contribute. Looks like there's, mommy's been great. What? Back to Freeman. I'd love to see that once in a movie. Like instead of the cocaine thing where they touch the cocaine and they taste it. Coke. That's powdered cum.

It's like a voiceover of his thought process. He's like, I couldn't let the boys know I'd just eaten powdered cum. So I had to send this guy away. It's cocaine, I said. Oh no, that's definitely semen. Nope, don't you taste it? I've already confirmed. I'm actually throwing it away. You can't confirm it.

Set in stone. Yeah, but I'm hoping that those big pillars that they're claiming to have found some couple of universities or whatever That those end up being something cool because it always what are you hoping they are? I don't know I think it would be I feel like you're getting at something, but you're just like tell us what you really think What do you want those to be? I don't know What I want them to be but I want it

I'm hoping that somehow it shows us that the pyramids were more than just a tomb. Like these giant things, like if they had some other purpose or they did something else, so there was a greater significance to them. Like that would be a sick thing to know. I want there to be evidence there that the Egyptians didn't build that pyramid, that it dates back to a structure long before then to some like grandfather race of people that existed before the younger dryus like impact 10 or 15 thousand years ago. Some sort of like like an aluminum bar would be all you needed. Like some sort of technology that could that should not

could not some anachronistic tech. Something it doesn't need to be. Something like a pyramid. That's something like a giant pyramid that they said they whittled with copper chisels. Yeah. Which would be cool. I just want to know what that because there's it just it's always seemed weird that like all of that was for a tomb. That's wild. Like there has to be some something else.

You know, they have like a pizza hut that overlooks the pyramids, right? I did. I think that's really tactless. They should have like, like moved it away a little. I saw like Carl Pilkington on the Idiot Abroad show. If you've ever watched that, he's like eating KFC and he's like looking over at the pyramids and he's like a lot more litter here than I would have expected.

And it's like huge amounts of plastic bags. It's disgusting. And it's like, give the coolest thing on earth here. Take care of it. Zach, find us the tackiest, most embarrassing photos of the Giza Plateau in general. I want to see three-legged dogs laying in piles of old Pepsi bottles. And I want to see poor children wearing Falcon Super Bowl jerseys. But, but with like KFC, McDonald's, and the pyramids in the background, like some real embarrassing shit. We usually give the Indians a hard time here

because of their filthy ways. They are another people that love litter. They do, they do. Not racially, just the country. I don't know who's running that country. Probably not Indians. Probably some Indian guy. Probably.

Yeah, there's a picture I found from Alame stock photo that shows a tremendous. Yeah, send a couple of prisoners out there. Get that together. That's like, that's your calling card. Your Egypt. That's your fucking thing. They should clean up every day. Like how is that possible?

Just a bunch of growing shit out of our car windows. I grew up two blocks from the beach and the freaking at 5 p.m. when the tourists leave our beaches would look like this and every morning they were spotless. They had tractors that could pick up the trash. Exactly. Dragged every morning. Yeah, there's a piece of machinery that's made for this and I get that that's a big area.

I don't care how big it is. Get to work. Get to work. You'll be done in a year or two You know how long it took to build a fucking pyramids asshole get to work. I Mean I swear Ocean City's equipment could clean that place every night We clean a lot bigger places than that You know, I still hear people who think that the Jews were enslaved and built the pyramids They believe that like Bible story or that Prince of Egypt Disney cartoon shit. They think that was built by some guys getting like whipped who didn't know what they were doing. Dude, if you need a group of people to perform physical labor, who better?

You know, you're right. You're right. The the the wheels of history turn forced for do you think it was? Do you think it only took a thousand years because of how litigious it was? It was zoning permits. You can't put a pyramid here. Not in my backyard. Now, according to subsection three, you're not allowed to use the cat of nine tails, seven max.

And here in this picture, this cuneiform tablet, if you'll flip to tablet 7, big happy things. Yeah. Cat of SevenTales only, huh? Yeah, that wasn't a slave army that built that over thousands of years or hundreds of years later. It wasn't slaves.

No, that was craftsmen that were well paid. They've got records of how those guys were fed, how they were housed, like what their daily allotment of beer and bread and various things were. They have all those records. Those guys were paid and fed and those are craftsmen and workers that built that thing. Maybe some cobblers in there too, Kyle? Well, I mean, you're going to need some footwear. You're in the desert. It's hot out there. You're going to need a cobbler or two. But I promise you, this won't be a single genius amongst those Cobblers in there too, Kyle? Well, I mean, you're gonna need some footwear. You're in the desert. It's hot out there. You're gonna need a cobbler or two,

but I promise you this, won't be a single genius amongst those cobblers, no matter how good his foot flops are. But the guy who was designing like the capstone, or really any of the stones, probably one of the geniuses in there. Whoever arranged those things geometrically according to the stars and that perfect line

and squared them all up to within a quarter of an inch or whatever it is, he was doing some math. That guy was a genius. He didn't have a calculator either. I hear it's so fascinating. The AI says Kyle's right. So he's probably wrong. Whoa.

That's good. I'll take that. I'm about as smart as Google's AI. No. No. I feel like some subjects AI is really good on and other subjects is just terrible. Yeah. Like, for example, poker is just completely incompetent. Like if you ask a question, it'll just it'll say words back to you that sound poker.

But they probably don't mean anything. It's just basically just like making stuff up pretty much. That's my problem. Whenever I'm an expert and I like use AI. I'm like, oh my God, is it this untrustworthy on things I don't understand? Yeah. Or like, the other day I forgot what even happened,

but somehow I was like asking the AI how tall I am and the AI's chopped like four inches off my height and I'm a little upset about it. Oh. I mean, it's how it starts's not, it's how it starts. Yeah. And then before you know it, it's T 1000. Let's see how tall is poker player? Doug poke. I'm asking Grok right now.

He says five foot 11. It has five, it has 15 web pages up there that I'm not about to click and find out. I think there's another Doug named Doug Doug and I think it's merging us. So it thinks I'm Doug Doug. But I'm really, I'm six three and I get it. It's not a big, it's not a big deal, but I'm just saying like just, it just, oh, by the way, six three and you may be five. Hey, my Google, my Google, the day screen five 11 and six foot is four inches. Yeah. Oh, no, no, it's not. I thought you were gonna say six three. Yeah.

But he pulled this from such esteemed sources as Caleb height Wiki and the personage. And are you saying, are you calling everyone who works at the personage a liar? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, to me, yeah. Looked and see, because it'll like when you ask this thing a question, it'll show you like like 15 web pages recited in the creation of this and you can like break it down and click it.

But I've never actually done that. And sometimes like the Google search bar will just like put it. So like this is one guy, Antonio S. Fondiari, he's like a pretty tall 661 something like that. I Google his name is like five three. I'm like, the fuck is not five three. Like Google's just randomly burning people. Oh, my God. Five three.

He's really interesting. How about this, Kyle Grock says FPS Russia? Kyle Lamar Myers is reported to be approximately six feet two inches tall. That's about right. Wow. Certainly if I'm in my sneakers, six two for sure. Well you can't count sneakers.

I don't know. I don't know. I was going to say like there's I would like to see the correlation between We're talking about how males are often like a head and various fields I don't see the correlation between height because every time we go to a thing. It's a bunch of tall guys Yeah, like every time we like I remember when we'd go meet like all the other youtubers who did what we did Yeah, or for me in particular when I go meet gun youtubers like we're all six two plus like they're like all of us were like like everybody and a lot of them are like Six four the Richard Ryan's like six four and then Hickok and his son are like six six or some shit

They're enormous. I may stand at the bottom of hill at the bottom of Hill. I don't know. Every time we talked, it doesn't change how tall there anyway. So like a camera does there's a direct correlation. The taller you are, the more money you make. It's direct. Yeah, and they did. I saw this one video like 10, 15 years ago. It was like they took two guys that look identical and dressed

them up identical and one was like six, five. One was like five, 10. And they just took them around New York. And they're like, how much do you think this man makes? And even even what like people thought like dressed exactly the same. Like the average income difference people thought the tall guy made like 100k more than the shorter guy. I mean, if that's the case, then it's pretty good. It's like the people were right. Yeah. They're right. And their lived experience was. I wonder if there's like a, a goofy curve in regard to how fat you are, because I picture very fat people as either incredibly poor or incredibly rich, almost like a, like an inverse bell curve.

I think you'd find a correlation between people who are aren't just fat, but grow up an outsider of some kind Fat ugly weird-looking just awkward socially or poor and or smelly like whatever your thing is that Makes two kinds of people. Mm-hmm dead people and funny people The people who don't turn that into being able to make people laugh not at you, but with you,

have to go in a different route. They end up dead. But then it makes a bunch of funny people. That's why I think there's so few funny female comedians because they just get a pass. Girls don't usually rip on the ugly girl. Not the way that guys do. They like shun her from the group

and she goes and cuts herself and becomes bulimic or something. But guys are just like rip on the fat guy in the group all the time. They're like, ah, Slim Dave is here. What's up, Slim? What's up, Skinny Mike? And the dude's 400 fucking pounds.

And then that guy's wit becomes, I don't know, iron sharpened iron. Girls are more sinister with it because they'll like compliment their big fat ugly friend and be like, you're so beautiful. You're so sexy. And it's like, that's so you're like doing this weird thing where if like, like if I had a like friend who was like four foot 10 and retarded and I was always like, no, you're rich and you're smart and you're handsome and you get a ton of pussy in my head. I'm like, yeah. And I'm way better than that guy.

Who gets a ton of pussy. And it's like, that's what it feels like girls are doing in those situations. Like, no, chop your hair off, get a pixie cut and gain 30 pounds girl. And then inside they're like, ha ha, another one under me now. Have you guys watched? I haven't watched the last episode or two, but you've been watching the white lotus the new season. I haven't seen any of it. How is it? Okay. I've seen it get a lot of attention on Reddit.

So far it seems pretty good, but there's like, this is obviously not a spoiler, but just like, it'll, have you guys seen the last seasons, seasons one or two? White lotus? No, I haven't seen any of the show. Okay. So the idea of white lotus is just like, you follow like three or four groups of people around like a vacation resort. season one or two, White Lotus? No, I haven't seen any of the show. Okay. I've heard of it. So the idea of White Lotus is just like you follow like three or four groups of people around like a vacation resort, right? And it's like the first couple episodes, well, it's like a little murder mystery-esque. You don't know what's going to happen.

Like some shit's going to go down, whatever. And so this season there's like this group of like cougars, like probably women in there like 40, 45 or whatever. And it's just following their interpersonal dynamics. And it's just so funny because of how caddy it is. And like, they like highlight how unbelievably mean these women are to each other for just like no reason. You're just like following them. And it's just, it's just hilarious to me. Is it scripting it or is this like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a massive show on HBO. I think it's yeah, it's a massive show Everything I hear about it is is good except for the amount of penis the penis to titty ratio

Apparently is just way out of whack, but that's modern media in general That's modern media in general that that's that's honestly one of the worst thing that's happening to our country right now is this yes The penis to titty ratio is fucking out of whack and I won't stand for it, Kyle. We have to band together and do something about this. Zach, show a gif of an American flag waving. I mean, I'm on. I agree, I'm showing my penis every opportunity now. No, no, that's the opposite of that.

It's the opposite of what we're saying, Woody. I thought we were on the same team. No, we want more titties and less needless stick. To be fair, his name is Woody, to be fair. Yes, he's just- I think that it is a targeted attack on our morals and our society by some sort of a- Yes.

Of a cabal, no, no, no, not the entire group, but a cabal, a secret slice of the male gay community, an angry, older 45-year-old white gay community, an angry, older, 45 year old white gay man. Okay. These guys that you they have been shunned to the side back in the 80s and the 90s. They were the all stars. Those were the they stormed the beaches of Normandy for the gays. And now what do you have?

The whole LGBTQ plus plus plus plus has left them by the wayside. They don't need the 45. This is the show. It's like white man anymore. This is like the Chappelle bit. So that group of men is trying to change society. The gloves are off. They're like, okay, fine.

And it's all cocks. It's all cocks and male asshole and it's no titties anymore. Never will you see like frivolous titties anymore. I never ever see it anymore Just just like a giggly pair of bouncy titties for the fuck of it before someone gets stabbed or hops in the pool There goes for the shower I see i've seen every male hero's ass every one of them has to get in the shower and show me his fucking ass

I don't care that you're caked up bro. Get back to punching bad guys. Okay, it's bullshit. I watch the boys We're not just looking at cocks we crawled inside one we're walking down the the fucking urethra of a cock was one of our heroes yeah we're exploring that bitch like like gulliver's travels or some type shit some sort of perverted gulliver's travel nightmare that was years ago we made fun of how absurd and retarded that was and you guys are still watching that. And so you can hate on these pro dick anti-tit norms all you want, but you're contributing to the issue by watching a show that's at the forefront of it. So put your money where your mouth is. I didn't know you were stealing. I wouldn't have said it if I knew you were stealing. Not stealing, it's pirating.

Maybe we need to tap into our 1.2% female audience here and ask them, like, because I feel like men, when we see titties, it's like, sweet, this is great. But for women, I was like, oh, nice, some dog. I just don't see that being quite like that. No, it's not. All right, all right, I'll take one for the team. Mom, would you comment?

Mom, yeah. What do you mom, who the fuck do you comment? Yeah, no, it's definitely different. Law and order could use a little cock in it if you ask me. Oh, that iced tea, I bet he hangs dong. You don't see iced tea stick? Yeah, law and order SVU. What about a...

Actually, no, I don't want to see any more dicks on TV. I want to see, I don't want to see any more dicks on TV. I want to see actually the dicks are fine if they're balanced out by, and I don't remember what my rule was because I had a good rule for this where it's like for every instance of male nudity, there have to be four instances of female nudity. So you're going DEI on this. I'm going DEI.

I would feel like for like on this. I would say, you know what? You guys are aiming too low with your titties for every penis. I want to see vagina for every penis and chest for chest. Let's make it equal and remove this lopsided scorekeeping thing. What you've done there is actually we were talking about genius Woody. This is my area of genius. We were talking about nailed it because what he said chest for chest. Men's chests are out all the time. So there's gonna be a huge they're gonna have to be like at the bank Showing tips just to make sure that the woody test is fulfilled

Like the so they have an opportunity to do something very smart here the new odysseus Uh movie by uh, christopher nolan's coming out next year. I think And elliot Page is in that former formerly Ellen Page. If Elliot Page pulls out his big old clit I think that that would break a lot of barriers. I think we need to see that. That's genius and to be honest I'm curious. Oh you know he's got a fat showed of a click dude on a lot of Conflicting words They're all complimentary words a fat showed of a click down there it's absolutely it's it's short It's very very large around like it's like a So my um, my my code on this new poker say is code Doug

And so I've been playing everyone when I said it's code Doug. And this guy sat me the day across the table and his screen name was Chode Doug. I had to play versus Chode Doug. Chode Doug is winning my money and then leaves. And I'm just like, I don't even know what to say about that. You mean me? That's so funny. What do you even say about that?

We're not on the stream for the day, guys. Stream's over. What do you think about that Doug? Is your audience good? I used to play video games with my audience and anyone who watches like a gamer play on Twitch is really into games. They're better than your kid is pub stomp against the Twitch audience. You think that's true in poker?

I would say it's a little less like that. It tends to be people because I actually like really good players tend to not watch that was content. They'd rather be playing because poker is a game for money. So I would say the average viewer tends to be pretty casual. And I do like I play versus my viewers. Like sometimes the lower six is a higher stakes and they're pretty bad. I tell them that I break them while replying.

I'm like, you guys are horrible. I'll take your money, but I guess they beat me nowadays. So what do I know? But yeah, I play versus them a good amount. They're usually like just more recreational players, you know, they just invested. What do you see down 38 now? 38 K I'm down 30. You can go to code Doug.com and you can see my little face and a graph of how I'm going. Uh, it is not good, but yeah, so I have to end, I have to end at $0 or I'm going to have to shave my head. This picture of your head. This was taken,

this was taken way before the loss. Yeah. You were already green six days ago. Yeah. So I actually had like 10 straight winning days and I was actually kind of gloating. I'm like, yeah, I got this shit. See, it's easy. Like I'm crushing these guys. And then all of a sudden it was just like, just doom switch is just all over. And I lost like, I don't know 20 20 how much that is one day oh it says worst worst day minus 36 480 yeah I saw that hand I think online yeah there's there's the challenge yeah it's not not going good guys oh it's now that you should change it so you're not smiling

in the picture anymore. You should treat it like that. Like, you know, doom, how your avatar as he takes it becomes like more bloody and like roughed up as it goes on in doom. When your health is low, the guy gets some black eyes. He gets like a bloody nose. That would be, that would fit this too. So I'll put a word with my team. And this started well. Yeah, if you can, if you can gain 10,000, you probably take this down. Zach, I'm making the worst thing too, is like the people I'm losing to, like that day I lost 35,000.

I got in contact with the guy I lost to and he's like, man, I like never really play. And it was such a, it was so cool getting to do that. And like, wow, I want to hit a lot of big hands. I'm just like, I hate myself so much. And my misery at this point, did you, did you want to hear like, like an awkward college genius? He's like, yeah, I'm supposed to be studying for my finals, but I've just been, I've been going over my plays for months now. It was just such an honor to play against you. This

is all I really do in my spare time. Did you want to hear that? I guess I really had some guys like time. Did you want to hear that? I guess I don't know. Really? It's some guy who's like, dude, I was so trashed last night. I forgot. I even signed on to play. All the cards were blurry.

I got all clovers. All right. I woke up and I had a bunch of money in my account that I play last night. Oh yeah. You played Doug. Oh, it makes sense. Yeah. Well you'll do it. You can grind back. I appreciate it. I'm going to do my best. It's, it'll be fun. I mean, try to have a good time with it and do my best and end zero. Your updates are not as noteworthy as your down days. The problem is one down day doing a lot of the heavy lifting to one especially.

You're right. I mean, I would say the three biggest movers are all downs. Yeah. Why was I was at 20 K and I just like fucking just punted it, just punted it. I've I and I know it sounds delusional but I have been getting really unlucky Thumbnail for your videos where it's like the coal miner who turned away from the diamonds at the last I put that one of my videos like a month ago As the only trick to gambling is to more stuff

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I boil them. Yeah. I've got a little kettle that I keep under my desk and I steep my testes. You steep them in a tea. Is like he drinks hard boiled eggs. Yeah. I steep my testes until they're ripened. And, uh, Woody, when did you get to an age where you started like? Noticeably I'm like my balls didn't hang this low before I'm not I don't think that's really happened to me. I'm like does that happen to everybody? I'm pretty happy with my nutsack

It's a it's a pleasure to be old draw a line on your thigh and I'm gonna get a tattoo of my Corner on the wall where it's like 10, 11, 12, 13. I've got this one friend who's like very proud of exactly how low they've dropped at this point in his life. He's like, bro, my nuts are like way down there. And it's like, I was like, I don't want to, I don't want to check him out. But my buddy's like, I'll take a peek. And he's like, very long't want to, I don't want to check him out. But my buddy's like, I'll take a peek. And he was like, very long, impressively long. If you want it, I don't know. I was like, I was talking about like, so people with long nuts,

they have their own set of problems. He's like toilets, right? Cause like you sit in the toilet, boom, you're splashing. Right. I'm not splashing. I've heard sitting on them as a hazard. I don't, I've never had that. I can't relate to it.

Maybe I'm just tiny bulb. I don not splashing. I've heard sitting on them is a hazard. I've never had that. I can't relate to it. Maybe I'm just tiny bulb. I don't know. I mean, it is more, there's like a temperature in spring where I think the scrotum is at its most comfortable because it's in like really cold weather. It's not as comfortable when it's super tight up. But then in like hot summer,

when you've got like the taffy thing going and it's like really stretched out, that's also not the jam. So like, I think a nutsack at like 72 degrees in shorts is probably the optimal comfort room temp room temp is where you want to be like room temp. Yeah. If you're like out, if you're out of the 98 degree gotta have a breeze I know a lot of guys like get some baby powder

They throw some some talcum in there some talc or something in there the powder up I've heard Shane Gillis talk about that like he powers up down there. No, I've never I've never talked my nuts up I don't think they get everything they just like a little handful and they're like throw it at their gooch and let it just go Where it may I glaze it with sugar like a caramel apple just in case today's my lucky day. Do you let the, do you let a hard shell for it? Hasn't worked yet and I've developed a lot of fungal infections.

We might go to the petting zoo, I gotta get ready. You have a hard protective candy shell over your cock. Yeah. That can be defensive. I could like funny joke. I could go for that. How you looked at me like I was crazy. Yeah, it sounded like there was a lot of drama going on with your balls. That's all. I just, that didn't.

They respond to temperature, not everyone. That's all my, yeah, I understand. You have interesting dramatic testes. Mine don't have that much personality, frankly. They usually just kind of hang out. They don't. No. They don't get way too, they don't get like super duper.

Like if you ever, it's been like super hot out, you're doing yard work, it's like a hundred degrees and you come inside before your shower and you're like, that is lower than I am accustomed to my testicles hanging because it's so hot. Well, I wear my, no, no, I wear a support garment when I'm gonna be doing hot outside work for them, of course, keeps them up high and tight.

Okay. Yeah. And what a perfect time. I don't want to be on. Go today. Thank you guys for having me on. I got I got to do some stuff with the wife here, but I really appreciate it. And good to see everyone.

It seems like everyone's doing well. Everyone's nutsack seem appropriately aged and loose. And where can, where can everyone find all your content, all your stuff, your sites on YouTube, duck boat poker is my channel and then if you want to follow my challenge, I'm doing it's just code Doug.com. Either one. Doug, before you go, I have to say, I've been admiring all night. You have a distractingly perfect hairline. I can't believe you're in your mid thirties. That is a seven year old hairline.

I've been fortunate with the strength and volume of my hair. Uh-huh. It's been resilient and it's good. Now my teeth leave some to be desired, but you know, you got to take your strengths and your weaknesses. Those are supposed to fall out. Yeah. What? Yeah. It's supposed to fall out. Yeah.

Yeah, you lose that first layer of adult teeth in your early thirties. And then your next row comes in. I'm waiting on mine. Just keep waiting Kyle. It's so hard to chew with your front teeth. All right, we're holding you off now. Take care. I ate a hot dog with a knife and fork.

I knew a guy that had to do that. He was missing so many teeth. He had to eat a hot dog with his knife and fork. We all know that. No, this is a different guy. There's an older black guy. Oh, do you know who the booty warrior is? Is he an MMA fighter?

Maybe? No, no, no, no. So the booty warrior was made famous by boondocks. He's that guy that's like, I want you, Chris Hansen. I want your ass and I'm gonna have it. Like it that that episode stemmed from a prison interview from this notorious prisoner known as the booty warrior. He has a real name, he's out and he does podcasts and such now. And his story is so crazy. He would groom and rape men. And that was like his favorite thing to do. And he tells these stories about just like,

booty is everything in jail, it's everything. You might go a year to without busting a nut so when you get that booty and I noticed this guy got no goddamn teeth like none and I was like what the fuck man where does all of his teeth go and apparently he had 35 incidents of biting people and he didn't just bite him a little. The first guy bit the guy's ear off and they sewed it back on. And so he saw that it didn't look good. He's like, they sewed his ear back on.

I go have that. So after that, he started swallowing the pieces he'd bite off. He bit off this one guy's eyebrows, both of them and ate them. Both of them. So that guy was on the ground for a while. He ate at one point, that guy had one of his eyebrows bitten off and he thought this day couldn't get any worse He would he would bite people's lips off and eat their lips and then he's like then you see him walking around And got no fucking lips like that's right. You fuck with me. I'll eat your lips Like a mess with him. Damn, maybe we should like just and so the warden tells me so the warden comes down

He said this lady came down and she said I said I've had enough of you you bite one more person We're gonna take your fucking teeth He said bullshit, you can't do that. I got rights. I'm a human being you can't take my teeth. So I bit another ninja Sure enough they come and they got you know, she called my brother They put him to sleep and when he woke up They had pulled every one of his goddamn teeth out of his fucking head and sewn his his gum shut and he didn't have any teeth So then years later, he finally gets out of prison. Right. And he's like, so I went to the dentist.

He let him out. Eventually, he got free, you know, like decades later, he's an old man now. And he's like, I went to the dentist to get dentures. And they said they'd be fifteen hundred dollars. And she said, wait a minute. Hang on this. There's something here about you. Oh, oh, oh, I'm so sorry, sir. We can't give you teeth.

How could this be real? There's a note. He's like, there's a note here that says you're not allowed to have teeth. I agree with that. That guy lost his teeth privilege. You can't be biting everybody's eyebrows and lips off. Sorry. You could give him cosmetic teeth, right? Like teeth that would hold up to a good biting.

Like that would come loose if you bit, tore. Maybe like he could... Nah, I was gonna say give him like one molar on each on each side, something to grind, but no, no, you, you bite enough lips and eyebrows off you forfeited your rights of teeth. That's why they fucking got Washington, the founder of our great nation. That was biting all these biting all the Brits. He's he's got a YouTube channel and shit. Now, if you want to see what he looks like like to get a vibe for this dude

That's the booty warrior today because he's out now. Like I said his his videos are Hilarious when he talks about the awful things that he did in prison and the awful things he saw in prison It's scary. He talked to me like like He's like yeah, they didn't they They treated black folks bad, and I guess they was used to us just bowing down. But I'm that ninja. I was coming for them. So he thinks the guards treated him bad? Oh, yeah. Well, he fought the guards. He was constantly in a fight. That's true. Those mean guards were treating him like the kind of guy who'd bite body parts off and swallow them. Yes.

They were treating him exactly the way he needed to be treated. He was eating people. Yeah, he was eating people. He's a cannibal. Yeah. And I can just imagine someone hearing that for the first time, like, like, like a social worker

that's in the prison being like, forgive me. He's eating people. And then some guy playing checkers to go, yeah, he's eating people. He ain't got no goddamn lips. Look at me, you can't even tell I'm surprised because of my eyebrows. If I had eyebrows, you'd know how exasperated I am by your inability to understand what a threat this toothy man is. But that, like, just to be clear, like, he made that decision to start swallowing the things he bit off of people after an ear was sewn back on

and he didn't like that resolution. He was like I took his ear and they gave it back. I wouldn't go have that happen again and it's like what the fuck is wrong with you? What was he in for initially like murder or something? I don't even know. All I care about is the booty stuff. That's the comedy. You know, like he's all about the booty and getting the booty and how important the booty is. Well, hopefully the guys he was biting were like murderers and pedophiles. Just some guy who like fucked his taxes up. Yeah, probably not that guy. If you've never seen the Boondocks, Boondocks, Saint, or not Boondocks, Saint, the Boondocks episode where they do the Chris Hansen parody. And basically the idea is like, the booty warrior has been caught by

Chris Hansen, but the booty warrior knew it was set up. He's like, I knew it was a setup, Chris Hansen. I'm here for you. I want that booty. And Chris is like, well, that's neither here nor there. What can I do? Entertain anything of the sort. He's like, I'm gonna have that booty one way or another Chris Hansen. And it gets real dark. I think he rapes Chris Hansen.

Pretty sure he physically rapes him in that episode. What is he doing nowadays? Chris Hansen, he's doing his, well, look, my guess would be that so so he had that little part of his career where that Was post post dateline and more in the digital age and he was doing his own digital Dateline NBC investigates Chris Hansen show but then like people like Vitali and You know people in our little sphere saw that that was the marketplace and I think a lot of people do the pedo hunter thing now and

while I Don't know I don't know if the Chris Hansen has the nostalgia anymore when you can watch when you watch Vitaly catch someone or when you watch some of the like Raffle rascal McGovern's catch someone they often assault them You know They often drop them up a little or at least chase them and scream at them and put a fear into them and elevating the game. Right.

Yeah. And to a level that that, you know, you could get into it. Maybe it's illegal. Maybe it's not. But you might have to prove that it is, which is a position you never want to be. And whereas Chris Hansen is more of a professional journalist, or at least that's what he he does professional journalism type stuff. So it's not as entertaining to me. Yeah, it's I watch like video game reviews.

I used to do video game reviews 15 years ago, and I just choose like an eight minute stretch that I played a little better than average and talk. That's not how they do it now. Nowadays, they're like in the game in costume against a green screen like making themselves a part of the game and and They do it so much better than we ever did They raised the bar happen to Chris Hansen happened to us There's lots of fun styles to to the the YouTube gaming stuff now I do like the people who roleplay and they get involved. I like

General Sam I like his style video. I like it a lot. You should have him on you. Yeah, for sure. Love General Sam. I have a hard time getting over his cruelty to the other players and stuff. It's like the point sometimes. I'm a dirty player who likes hurting other people and it's funny. And I'm like, oh, I empathize with the victims a little bit here in your videos. I do not. I do not. And they're not always mean-spirited.

A lot of his Tarkov videos can be like a little bit mean-spirited, but, but you know, he does lots of different games. I like it. I more like like the tech he uses, which I'm sure is just some simple green screen stuff, but it's really effective the way he, high effort. There's one where he appears to be crawling out of a tunnel that's in Tarkov.

And it's like, he did that just well enough. My brain's like, okay, crawled out of the tunnel, sure. I'm not looking at you like you crawled out of a piece of cardboard. Like it looked real when he did it. I don't know how long that scene is, but I'll it's like nine seconds of him caught crawling out of a tunnel probably And I'm like damn that takes like even if you're good at it 45 minutes to do you know to set up the tunnel the green screen then you go into after effects you put all that together

You make it happen. I bet there's 45 minutes of effort put into that for nine seconds of video. That's TV level effort Meanwhile like Philip DeFranco like still doing the same exact thing like he like he always looks better every time I see him aging or something But but uh, but you know, he's doing that. Hey With like video playing and it's like holy shit, you gave me five minutes worth of information in two and a half minutes. Nice, and I'm gone. I watch videos now and I'm always harping

on how efficiently they tell their stories, how they're dragging on, whether or not they're... That intro, that intro shit. It's like, I'm here for a reason. Like, do not think that you are a personality YouTuber yet you aspire to be one someday right now. It's all about tech It's all about showing me how a goes into B This video was called how does the magic mirror work BG 3 bro you better get right to that don't start off

Hey, it's been a minute You know I'd like to apologize for the gap between this video and the previous one. What are you doing? No, no, no. In this show, it is important to me that it always starts out the same, right? PK744. This is our guest. Kick it to Taylor. Taylor talks about the sponsors. If we're not doing what people are here for in like 15, 20 seconds, I'm not happy. And this is a four hour show that they have to wait for.

I've seen six minute videos where the first minute and a half is intro. Yeah, it's crazy. It's terrible, it's terrible. Nothing will like earn my scorn more quickly. I'll like, don't recommend this channel again. This is awful, it's good, nobody's doing because because it's weird the YouTube YouTube algorithm. I would rather get recommended the top 10 guys in the world in this field.

But instead they're like, hey, you want to see a guy who just started? You want to learn from a guy who knows less than you real quick? He's got 16 subscribers. His last video got 67 views, but this one's going to be a hot one. The algorithm thinks. So what are you doing? Sometimes one's gonna be a hot one, the algorithm thing. So what are you doing? Sometimes it's really good and sometimes it's just awful. I hear you.

Yeah, glad you added that. Sometimes it's a gem. I didn't know how to get somewhere in Elden Ring. This is a couple of months ago. And we click on a video and there's like an eight year old, but damn if that kid wasn't perfect. He did nothing but tell me the answer I needed. And it took a while you had to

watch him ride his horse for like six minutes. And he didn't do anything but tell you about it. Maybe some you know that that's what's in that shiny. I don't bother to pick it up. But he he was perfect. Sometimes as little guys have gems. There was a video that was so bad the other day I linked in the discord and I was like, like look I just want to know how this works in a game this guy his voice is so disgusting I have to listen to it in 10-second chunks and the video 70 seconds long it sounded like he had something very like

a mouthful of honey he was so smacky and disgusting and but I really needed to know what he was gonna teach me. I would watch like 10 seconds and I can't take it. I'll figure it out on my own. And then I'd watch 10 more seconds of him and I'll figure it out on my own. It was so awful. I, yeah, that's-

What is it with people who do that? I have someone like in my extended family, not blood related, whose mouth always sounds like it has way too much saliva in it swallow and when he talks I'm like looking around at everyone else in the room. Like y'all are okay with this Like I feel like we should collectively ask him to be a more of a listener Yeah, yeah, I hear that sometimes and it's really disgusting. I don't want to hear This guy had a speech impediment and that went along with it. He had this smacky disgusting voice. He sounded like a goddamn

Tolkien goblin telling me how a video game tip I don't know what happened to all the smooth voiced 20 year old British guys that used to tell us stop do things those guys don't get as much push I miss when like YouTube's homepage at least included your subscriptions Yes don't get as much push. I miss when like YouTube's homepage at least included your subscriptions. Yes. I don't know. No. Well, it includes subscriptions, but it's not focused on who I'm subscribed. They're not there because I'm subscribed to them. They're there because I watched them. Yeah. My subscription to them is almost. Yeah, that's fair. It's like they, they know I listen to a lot of Opie and Anthony clips. And so they're like, Hey, instead of just giving you Opie and Anthony, because obviously there's

not a Opie and Anthony only channel really, it's like from a bunch of different stuff. So they suggest those from around, but then they'll also just have other shows that the algorithm thinks is close enough. And I have to like click the little three dots and be like, no, hide. Don't recommend this. I don't want this channel. It's a bad sign. Porn's getting harder to access. YouTube's getting harder to, uh, to, to get where you actually want and to get quality content. I don't know. I thought we get better at searching stuff as these algorithms and AIs, uh, got better, but it doesn't, it doesn't feel that way. It just feels like they're getting better at ripping us off and manipulating us. Dude, I'm not liking the rapid change in online discourse that I see

sometimes, not even like politics or anything, of someone will say something like, did you know that in the, you know, the 400s, the Romans actually used to put baboons in the Coliseum and give them rudimentary weapons to fight. And then the person responding to that won't be like, Oh, interesting. Where'd you learn about this? Like a normal conversation. They'll be like at Grok. Is this true? Is this guy trying to fib to me? And it's like, why that? Why use it for that? It's just such, it's the exact kind of outsourcing of thinking that our teachers warned us about with the calculator, which ended up being horse shit. But if you outsource all of your ability to reason through things, like you're going to be retarded.

If you don't just kind of use your head and be like, yeah, they probably fucking didn't do that. That doesn't make a lot of sense about with a, you know, a spear. And then if you did, it makes sense to me, pull it up and search, you could probably just find the answer easily. So like, I find myself in like this almost boomer esque situation where I'm like, really? Like you're using grok for everything. You're using Google AI for everything. But in this scenario, you're the boomer who doesn't like the boomer. Yeah, definitely are.

I could see how this is not good for people's ability to reason things. Because if you're just replacing your critical thinking. It's equivalent to grabbing the old encyclopedia and figuring out if they ever did all of that. It's not. It's a zero effort. There's no effort needed. There's no curiosity. So more people will learn the truth. Being efficient isn't bad. I kind of like the... I'm hearing people get fact-checked,

which I like. But it's not fact-checking because it's just Google AI, like we just laughed about it being so inaccurate. It's just aggregating existing sources in a concise way for people to ask for data. I agree. Ask Brock about the chimps. It's not. Well, I made that up. That's, yeah.

So I agree it's not great fact checking, but to me it's a step forward. That's how it vibes to me. Okay. That's fair enough too. I'm not, you know. You could arm them. All right? Like I feel the chance.

They wouldn't necessarily hold on to a sword. But if you attached blades to their hands or their forearms in such a way that during their normal natural attacks, they would implement the blades accidentally, I think you could thereby the same way, the same way you arm fighting cocks fighting roosters by putting those razor blade talons on their their their their whatever that claw is called their little thumb claw that they usually use to fight so yeah I have a question for you at first I was like do the chimps

not use clubs because they're stew too stupid to use that was my knee-jerk reaction and then I thought wait a minute let's say you're a chimp and you not use clubs because they're too stupid to use clubs. That was my knee jerk reaction. And then I thought, wait a minute, let's say you're a chimp and you need to win this fight in front of you. You're not investing for your skillset down the line. You are a chimp. You need to win this fight in front of you.

Do you think you're better with your claws and your fingers than you are with this new weapon? Yeah, I don't know how to practice with it though. Like, you know what I mean? Like they never cracked open a nut with a club or anything. Well, what we're doing is we're throwing them in the deep end with these fights, this hypothetical fighting.

But I'm not giving them a club. If they had a launch. I'm going to take leather straps and I'm gonna strap on some like Wolverine type claws. I understood your idea. Make them better almost against their will, right? Just give them a better weapon. But my question was just adjacent to that,

not on top of it. Where it's like, you know, I bet if you gave a chimp a club, they're actually worse. A club? Oh, they will be worse. Yeah, but they'll both be the same weird worse, which is for the crowd. In your scenario, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I'm not suggesting that like, if a man were to have to fight two chimps, I'd prefer to fight the chimp who's like got weird weapons strapped to it. However, if I'm an audience member, I'd prefer to watch a man fight a chimp who does have weird weapons. See in this scenario, I'm putting myself in the chimp shoes. I'm a chimp. I'm in a fight. I need to win this thing. Do I want to club? Well, shit, I'm not practiced with the club.

I think I'd rather just use these untrimmed fingernails. Dude, it's literally like monkey see monkey do. Like there are chimps who figured out like that if you stick a long thin object into I guess ant or termite mounds or whatever, that they had seen like tribesmen or some shit doing that. And so they started doing it and they were like, oh, look at that.

I can get more food out of here. There's like actual video clips of them beating each other with logs they find. And so like if they found, yeah, there's fighting, there's fighting clips of them using sticks as clubs, not in a great way in the way someone who hasn't seen someone do it. And best you have a video of a chip flinging a stick Errant Lee you do not have any video pictures or fucking eyewitness testimony of a fucking Jeremy you will continue to be known as You do not reduce that, Jeremy! You will continue to be known as Taylor the Chimp Liar. Taylor the Chimp Liar.

Have you seen the monkey using the saw? It's like a wet- The orangutan. Yeah, but they gave him that saw. No, wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think maybe it's a different clip because I'm thinking of the orangutan with the hammer where David Attenborough is sitting there and he's like,

you can see the orangutan has figured out small bits of industrialization. Clearly is missing most of the point. So what I have seen them do is not only do they do that thing with the stick to get like termites and other things that are down in the hole and eat them. They have like a favorite stick. Like they don't just like they're like, oh, this is my termite stick. I've also seen the orangutans

bathe themselves with soap and water because they had observed, people do it presumably, and I've also seen them sweep their own enclosure with a broom because, again, it was observed behavior. But for them to get a weapon, see, this is that moment from 2001, A Space Odyssey, at the very beginning when the obelisk comes down and it gives that to the first like simians that the proto humans, it gives that little inkling that like, dude, pick up the fucking club. This is your first machine. This is gonna turn your your your for this is a force multiplier and they smash that first pile of bones and you in that the chip the monkey is like oh this is power and he like gets that inkling that ain't happening that ain't gonna happen

any time. Kyle look at the video Woody just linked it says the title is is while a chimp uses a saw to cut off a tree it's the most obvious orangutan that there's ever been. Yeah, I think they're all kinds of monkeys, as far as I know. Well, great apes. You know what? You know what the great thing about this though? I knew I did correct.

Yeah, well this one's killing it with the saw. No, he's not. No, he's not. I'm sorry, Kyle, I'm excited about this. So the video I sent, which I wish we could share with everyone, is an orangutan very competently using a saw. What Taylor can't know is all the moments not included the video

where he incompetently uses a saw and like he's banging with the saw and shit. People cut out that part of the orangutans incompetence and say shit like, this is me watching my girlfriend play Elden Ring. Do you think that like every once in a while when he would like hit the teeth into the wood and like get a saw movement going, do you think in his orangutan mind he's like we're fucking cooking with gas? Because like I did like how you could see how if they figured it out They'd be excellent at it because he's got a free hand a saw hand and both of his hand feet are Clasping the two sides of the the log and just holding it perfectly static while he you know Failure or not tries to saw through it if you had Four of those guys who had all had that you took the you took the brains out of four migrant roofers.

Listen up Elon. You take the brains of four migrant criminal roofers and you put them in to that orangutan body that has four hands and the strength of at least three and a half men I'll call it. Yeah. All of a sudden you can throw up houses like it's nothing. Four of those guys climbing around up there, hands and feet, a hammer in one foot, a fucking screw gun in the other fucking, it looked like a cartoon character building a house. It would. I like that. You know, when you started this line of thinking, I didn't realize you were going to solve the housing crisis, but congratulations. Yes. Yep. That's another reason you need is Canada. Look at that.

Oh my God. This is a real problem. Did you know a fun fact about orangutans is that the species is promulgated almost entirely through rape? I think most species are like, like, like, although giving consent in the animal kingdom is a weird one, right? Like, like you could argue for animals at least that least, that if it's not consensual, then that means that only the strongest of the males are actually able to breed. That's kind of the point with the

orangutans. It's like, apparently, a female who's an estrus or whatever sees a male orangutan and is like, it's time to fucking swing through the trees and try and escape. Oh. If he's such a shitty male that he lets me escape through the trees as a smaller female, I'm glad because I'm gonna have shitty offspring. I don't want a man to throw me down. That's almost like their mating ritual, I would assume,

more than like the human imposition of like, look, that male orangutan is chasing her down and tackling her in the woods. It's like, well, she's probably trying to like, engineered logic, right? She might not want to be pregnant against her will. Also, it could be either way. We don't know that. Yeah. Yeah. She's going, Taylor's like, life. I'm like biology at time. Yeah. Not what I'm not picking on Taylor, but they'll be like, Hey, this thing here has red and yellow so everything knows it's venomous.

This thing here has red and yellow, so everyone thinks it's venomous. And I'm like, well, you're just making shit up at this point. Like you can't have it. It depends which one came first, right? I think evolutionarily, they often find that the thing that's deadly happened, and then later on,

this other thing became like it in a way to blend in because the because you know the birds in the area don't eat that thing because I've seen those. Counterpoint, I didn't think of that. This is why I'd love to have a real scientist on every now and then. No, we're fine just winging it. God damn it. I can't believe you don't trust me and the things that I'm mostly making up.

I'd love to have an astronomer on. Just ask a few questions that you know. This guy whose name I never remember. Michio Kaku? No, he's British. That's that famous Belgian poop porn star. Michio Kaku. Chris Bell? that famous Belgian poop porn star. No. Me check. Chris Bell?

Yeah. Oh, no, I remember you were saying to listen to the Joe Rogan with him on it because he was really good, right? He was so good. Is it Michael Cox with an X or something like that? Yeah. That's the-

Not the- I like so much, a different guy. A different guy. He's like pale faced. He's going- Wait, no, it's not Michael Cox. Isn't it Brian Cox Cox Brian Cox sounds more right I'm Cox. Yes, it does. Okay, so I see why my Chris hint didn't take you very far

Yeah, it was a human and a man wait It is Brian Cox when you Google him a different Brian Cox comes up, but it's still Brian Cox. Yeah, the actor. Well, maybe not him, but maybe just a YouTube, like an astronomer. Are we not big time enough to get him? I don't know, maybe not. No, dude, if he's been on Rogan,

he'd have to be like, not doing too hot to come chat with us. I think he's a real TV astronomer. I see him him on all of those like how the universe began type shows giving you know doing his little three minutes about quarks or Fucking black holes or whatever the topic of discussion is but but there's tons of of youtube genius astronomers who i'd love to like Just ask some stupid questions, too. Yeah Me too. Let's see what Neil deGrasse ties.

Let's see if he's dropping any fucking truth bombs about the universe. Can you trust him on basketball diameters? I clearly know. I was just watching him recently and they were talking about like hypothetical Dyson spheres and his guest was like, well, you know, don't ask Google AI, just do the math. That's the difference between a smart person and someone who's stupid.

He's like, so I did the math and there's not enough material in our solar system to make a Dyson Sphere. He's like, you just do the math and the answer's there. And I got maybe very mad. A Dyson Sphere, that's the one where they completely surround the entire sun and use all its energy am i right yeah well like the question would be whether you do a Dyson sphere would in

fact be like completely encapsulating the sun but you can do a what's called a Dyson swarm which is just a bunch of smaller mirrors or maybe a ring of mirrors around the sun the idea would be to capture as much of its energy as possible and then store it and beam it back to earth in some manner, some future technology. The whole point is harnessing the entire power of your sun potentially with a Dyson sphere, which is theoretical like future tech basically. It's like the O'Neill cylinder or any number of like,

or what are those von Neumann probes, any of those. That was a neat concept to me. But I guess it's like, yeah, just go to a planet, use that planet's materials to replicate yourself, and then you go to more planets. What's hard about that? It's like, oh, well actually,

you're talking about creating a whole iron smelting facility and more it would need to be that machine It would need the machine the the probe you sent out would need to be fully capable of taking raw ingredients from asteroids and turning them into an exact replica of itself and then flying those replicas to Different star systems and then repeating that process over millions of years time that doesn't matter to a machine at all. And within the course of like, they gave a number and it's a couple million years.

You can have those machines in like every star in the Milky Way galaxy because at relativistic speeds, like slower than the speed of light, just zipping along, you know, but you need a lot of future tech to make that. It's a really tall ass. Kyle, I had multiple people tweet at me this week, I guess just in the past couple days, being like, dude, you're in Kyle and Woody's conversation on like determinism and predestination,

not predestinationism, maybe some of that, and like the universe, free will and your decisions. That was like fun. You guys should talk about stuff like that more often. That was really interesting. We did. Yeah, that was fun. I did have a fun time with that PKN. PKN, by the way, guys, check out the Patreon. Oh, and you know what? Google is spying on us every second because my YouTube algorithm was full of that shit. It was like Miku Kakaka talking about. Dr. Michio Kaku is his name like on and on with the with the terminism or uh, or um, um, you know various realities

Yeah, but you watch all that shit anyway Not but it was like a spike of that particular topic. I'm more into cosmology just um, just like space in general. I like learning about cosmology, just, um, just like space in general, I like learning about, um, like rare spatial phenomenon, like all the things that happen to stars when they die. There's there, there's like half a dozen more different ways that their death can, can happen. Can you tell me like, uh, sometimes I get inspired by our own show too, but I just want to know more about Taylor's testicles and where they're hanging.

Yes. Well, it depends on the temperature. Right now it's a little warm in here. So I could imagine right now, you put a line on your side. The left one's funny, like all over the place. It's like spring 2025, winter 2025, they're higher up again. It's just a mishmash. Just imagine your left ball is looking back at your right ball and he's like,

I see a clearing up ahead. I believe that's the knee. Hold tight, brother. Almost there. He's just there. It's like hacking through a thicket of fumes. Oh, no, it's not the knee, it's the asshole. We went the wrong way.

He almost satanist! That was a close one. Dude, I've seen that online. I've seen where dudes stuff their whole ball sack in their asshole. Have you ever seen that? I've never seen that. I'm an internet veteran. That doesn't seem like it's fun for anyone involved. Nobody would enjoy that. No, I've definitely seen pictures of dudes that have their whole...

Do you think there's dirty talk while they're like trying to finagle it in there? Yeah, this is so hot. No, you got to grip the bottom of it tighter and really squeeze to give it some some tension. Then we can try and cram it in. First of all, mine definitely aren't long enough to get back there. And second of all, I feel like it hurt like the dickens. Oh, into your own butthole? Yeah. I thought you meant like into a woman's vagina. I've seen that too. Okay, so I've seen both. I've seen the dude fuck the girl and he puts his dick in her and then he like physically

has to manipulate and get his balls and like pops them into her too. Do you know what that's called? I don't. Bean bunging. Fuck yeah, bean bunging. You heard it here folks. And then I've also seen where the dude takes his own ball sack and pops it into his butthole. You know, I was doing some investigation for science and once

again, North Carolina's Republicans prevent me from learning the things I'm trying to learn. Would he link me and from the land of freedom I shall tell you. By the way, this conversation is specifically for that gentleman who requested more philosophy. Sorry, bro. I tried to bring it up, but... Alright, let's see what we're looking at here. I am 18 or older. All I got is some woman on Pornhub lecturing me about- Man, nobody slows me down on Pornhub.

I won't tell you that right now. They need to throw a warning sign up before they- What are you seeing? Wait, now this doesn't even say beanbunny. It says the search you sent me is balls in my own ass. Well, that's what Google's linked was. I can prove beanbunny. I'm gonna search bean-

Well, I'm gonna let you know what I got involves a lot of craziness. This dude, but the number one result you sent me here It's called self fuck big cock in the ass and huge come in my own ass self fuck anal big cock and this This dude 338,000 people have watched this video of this dude cream pieing himself This doesn't look like a comfortable can you imagine that even come Well, I mean, you know, it's for the for them dollar dollar bills. Yeah, there's no way there's enough dollar dollar bills in this You'd be shocked like this like who knows this, you know, all right. I got enough. I wasn't doing a video call right now I'd be getting to a VPN. I don't know what you're seeing

Can you guys it's a guy with his own dick shoved in his ass? Except it's like I obviously mark. It's it's in your own butt And so it's not like it's at a comfortable angle at all And so there's no way this guy's all right did come. So maybe what do you go to that website? Is that block in North Carolina? Coomer.su I'm not clicking that. Don't fucking blow our spot. Jesus Christ, that's my website.

That's your website. I the creme de la creme, folks. Y'all heard it here, folks. You know, familiar with this site. Taylor blew the lid off of the best kept secret in the internet. And, uh, and then so anybody wants to come after somebody, Taylor, Taylor's the one, but yeah, Coomer.su. How am I supposed to know this is, this is a secret?

Well, I mean, you don't shout it out for the rooftops. Goodness gracious. That was top secret information. There's not even any porn on this. Are you, are you shitting me? Oh, all of the porn is on this for free. This is the plex of porn. This is all the only fans unlocked.

Does Coomer mean all the fans that are worth other people identity? Yeah, yeah, that's the rumor. It means like you're beating off all the time, like you're a Coomer. You're always like you're like addicted to porn. It's a little internet cutesy Gooning speak that's all is all But um, but yeah, it's good website. You can get all the only fans and fans the content you want there I think there's another one but but that one's just better with the search

And all the other features that it has it's just better. What is it? I guess you What is that? I don't know. Let's see what country that is. The domain, wait. S.U. is an Internet country code top level domain that was designated for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

on 19 September 1990. I try and get political, bro. I'm just trying to hook you up. Don't worry about the massacres in the Balkans. You're trying to show me big titties. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you want to pay these ladies, you know, 20, 30, $50 a month. Jesus Christ.

Just to see some titties. This is such a funny window to have open right next to the MLK JFK files. Apparently they belong hand in hand based on what I'm now learning about Martin Luther King. I say I think that's the funniest take, dude. Like we need to like that. Maybe it's like if we need to him. Dick Masterson needs to ride with hard as fuck that we need to take those statues down Remember how they went into the park started taking the statues down of anybody who'd done anything bad. Oh, man MLK our former hero We're gonna have to melt those down and turn them into some susan b anthony's or some shit

Yeah, they're like tearing like if we're tearing down if they're turning down george washington's Then I guess we got a we got to tear down the MLKs or we can just leave them all day You can leave them all up. I was leaving the house were Yeah, then gals. Well, it's definitely not as young as Thomas Jefferson's young gals Thomas Jefferson was a wild man. By the way, Jefferson I think is the one who did the Louisiana Purchase I didn't want to correct the bulkk, noted NFT expert and winning poker player. But I think that that's Jefferson who did the Louisiana purchase because that's during the Napoleonic era. James K. Polk oversaw the largest territorial expansion in American history, including the annotation of Texas,

the Oregon territory. So he, yeah, he didn't do the Louisiana purchase, but he did a bigger one that I guess was overshadowed. Yeah. So that was, well, Louisiana purchases is the one where we got it from France. And I think Napoleon is the one who was running France at the time. I think he used that money to conquer Europe. Another thing we learned, Napoleon was pretty cool. Pretty good at winning battles. One of the best in history. Pretty neat. Yeah, it's a shame that they made that Napoleon movie.

Google says it's James Monroe. That did what? Louisiana Purchase. Who was president when the Purchase happened? It was 1803, so I don't know. Really? I could have sworn it was Jefferson maybe no Thomas Jefferson was president in 1803 so so I'm right yeah I guess yeah okay oh there it is and Jefferson authorized the

purchase I'm sorry Kyle I made a made a mistake. That's okay. History's fun that way. We all learn together. I don't know very much about Thomas Jefferson other than he was a real ghoul with his like slave half children. What about the, didn't he and Madison, weren't they all, or Adams, him and Adams were always

like at each other's throats like sniping each other. Oh, yeah, ending mean letters to one another in the media to the papers of the day like like spreading rumors about each other and falsehoods and all sorts of what we would call propaganda and fake news. It's as old as time. But but like Jefferson was legitimately a ghoul like he he married I think like one of his slaves, and then like they went to go to France on a vacation, and so legally, because they were entering the great nation of France, they had, he had to emancipate her, and he made a deal with her that she would be legally re-enslaved. She's got to sign the re-enslavement papers when they go home. He's like, sign these and then I'll make our kids free. But he didn't. He

sold their kids. And then I think he married her like 16-year-old half-sister who was also like a slave or something. It was wild. Yeah, they don't tell us about that stuff. So I'm fine with melting his statue, but you got to get MLKs too because I bet them ladies he's running around with. We don't have any more old timey statues getting built because they're old timey. So let's just keep all- That is how that works. We can only make new ones. That is how it works.

We can't make new old timey statues, so we can't just start willy nilly tearing down all the old guys. Sure you can. They're just made out of bronze and brass and concrete. No, I'm not saying that it's a physical- It's still a new statue. Yeah, it'd be a new statue.

The old one used the old materials. It's an old statue. Now we're in be a new statue. You can use the old one, use the old materials. It's an old statue. We're in like a thisius's ship situation. Did I pronounce that right? Theseus. Theseus you think? Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, each part had been replaced day on the journey home until not one piece was the original. I actually did have a space thing that you might know. The death of stars, I remember learning about this in school and it not being thoroughly explored enough for me to know, but it seemed like the death of stars changed depending on how big the star was. Because some of them were like condemned to being white dwarfs and then other ones could become red giants. And then after that, it seems like some of them just exploded into nothing and then only the

super absurd big boys got to become like a tiny little black hole. So a star is a giant fusion reactor, right? And at the center of it, all that gravity is squeezing, is fusing all the helium into hydrogen or the hydrogen into helium. I always get it backwards, but it's fusing one of those into the other at the center of the star and all the while that reaction is trying to explode The star is an explosion that has been frozen in time by gravity It is trying every moment you look at it to blow the fuck apart But it can't because it's so big the gravity is holding it all there, but once all that material goes away eventually It wins the gravity does And so the star collapses in on itself, and then multiple things can happen depending on the materials present inside

the star and how much mass there is, how big the star was when that happened. It can do a lot of different things. It can just completely explode in a supernova. It can do this thing where it bounces a little. It sort of halfway explodes, but then pulls it together at the last second. It can become something called a magnetar. It can become a black hole if it's big enough. If it's big enough. I think it's a Pokemon. It's a gigantic magnetic star, I believe spinning at an incredibly fast rate. I think it might be similar to a pulsar but but all that stuff confuses me in the end. But yeah they can do all sorts of cool things. That's pretty sick. Any element bigger

than hydrogen or helium was born inside of a star after the Big Bang is my understanding. So that's when they say we're made of stardust they mean literally. How do the other? Elements get made in the explosion because I know it can't fuse beyond iron and so everything else is in In the explosion it can fuse beyond iron. I believe oh I thought that like once the core became iron. That's when it spaz I think that there are My understanding is that it can fuse denser than iron in certain scenarios because that's where those elements come from

Okay Because again the amount of mass in the star a bunch of different things can happen at the death of the star It can become lots of stuff. It can start feeding off of another star and like be reborn again, you know, in binary systems where there's binary systems where there's two stars rotating around each other and they take turns cannibalizing the other one, exploding, and then doing it over again with the other one now eating the nebula that the first one created until it's big enough, over and over and over. With James Webb, they keep finding these things that were supposed to be impossible. These, I think they're called jumbos.

It's like Jupiter-size something, something, somethings. They're these giant planets that are in binaries floating through space, in interstellar space, not around the star. Binaries being two suns? Two giant Jupiter-sized planets rotating around each other, zipping along through the cosmos all on their own not orbiting the sun okay now because their sun blew up because their sun blew

up or because some sort of catastrophe happened in their solar system where the a planet moved in enough that that it like tagged up with another planet, maybe bumped the other planet and then they did their own thing and wiggled off away from the star. You know, like gravity is a weird thing. It's just like those bullets bounce and we always talk about, but they found not one or two, like they were supposed to be impossible. They talked about how rare that scenario they thought would be, but they found a lot of them. And it's not like they've got like a fish net and like every time they scoop, they them all they're seeing them. You know, they're detecting them with that radio telescope That shit's cool to me. I the vastness of it just blows my mind

and the age of it, you know when you're looking at that stuff, that's Ten light years away and it's like that's ten year old light. That's what was happening there ten years ago This is your time machine right here I can look back in time as far as I want if if if if you're 65 million years of 65 million light years from Earth and you had a telescope powerful enough and With enough resolution you could zoom right into the and see the feathers on the dinosaurs You know what I mean in one of my early Boy Scout camping trips, our Scout Master told us about this. It was when I first heard the concept of like, you know, some of these stars are 65 million light

years away. So that light that you're looking at is 65 million years old or whatever it is. And it's like you're looking into the past and 11 year old me was couldn't get enough of that. Yeah, that shit was awesome on the Discovery Channel as a kid. Like when they would, I liked when I would watch dinosaur shows and they would like show the graph of all the time of like the dinosaur era and even the pre dinosaur era. And then it would like zoom in and show like the human era, not even like, when we started doing shit, but just like, when we, you know, evolved out of whatever, of different, yeah, like the Neanderthals or whatever. And it was like just the teeniest, teeniest little spec of humans there. And it made me feel like almost deprived in a way

where I was like, wow, all the times to live and no dinosaurs. But then humans have been biologically around for what to me feels like a long time. I don't know, 200,000 years, I'm making that up. But we've only been interesting for like 3000. Prior to that. Maybe.

Well, maybe we forgot. Maybe it all got washed away and reset. Yes, I love dude. I want to find evidence for those theories so much. And it's not that it's not out there to anyone who's going to like link me a bunch of stuff. I just haven't done my due diligence. But like the idea of ancient civilizations that were advanced is so fucking cool. My favorite topic. It's my favorite fantasy. There's a sci fi story written by Arthur C. Clark that is very similar to what we're talking about. It's called the star. It's a short story. So anybody who doesn't want the spoilers go read it right now And then come back a promise it's worth it's very good short story and it's short

but the premise is in the future a team of astronauts including a Jesuit priest Go to this star Yeah, he's along the way. It's still it's still happening. It's written in the 60s or something, Arthur C. Clarke. So they go to this faraway star. It's like 2,000 light years away or something like that. And this star had supernovaed and all of the planets had been destroyed. But on the Pluto-like planet in this star system, the furthest out, that one had survived. And on that planet, they discover a vault.

And inside that vault they find the evidence of a vast culture, an advanced beautiful culture with art and music and all the trappings of an advanced, beautiful, ideal, utopic, futuristic civilization. The dream come true, it existed here. And it turns out that that is the star 2000 years ago that marked the birth of Jesus Christ. God snuffed that one out with a snap of his fingers just to put a little marker there above when Christ was sent forth, and that's what's shaking the Jesuit priests' faith that God has so little regard for not just one life or two, but for this entire civilization that existed here, that just for that, He snuffed them out with a snap of His fingers.

Good story. Interesting. I'll need to read that. I think it's called The Star. It's interesting that He's a Jesuit priest or pastor, whatever. I don't know. Maybe Arthur C. Clar Clark was a Catholic or maybe he didn't like them or something. Could be. Could be. Yeah. I want to learn more about space,

but really I want to learn more about potential ancient civilizations because that's neat. I've seen the like overhead graphs where it shows like how the Giza pyramids are aligned with the stars and like a very hyper specific way that like, like copper age people wouldn't have been able to, to like fully know much less like carve a bunch of stones with copper. Like there's YouTube videos of people now being like, they used to copper chisels and then they like hammer a copper chisel and it like falls apart immediately They don't know exactly the yeah, we don't I watched the whole thing about yeah, the with the copper versus iron thing is very interesting because

They had bronze and copper and and like I've seen the the comparisons between the steel of the day or the iron of the day. They didn't necessarily have steel. The Hittites were the first ones bringing those iron swords against the Egyptians at the time, I believe. And they had some historians will call it early steel, but if they did, it was accidental in their forming of iron sword. Big iron. But meanwhile, like in Egypt, they could forge those copper or bronze swords, whatever they were.

You just pour it. And when you pour something, you can make it very intricate. You can have lots of inlay to make it lighter. And depending on the composition, it would have been comparable to the bronze. You're right. That's why Bronze Age lasted so long in so many areas, because it's infinitely easier to cast something. Like casting is always easier than forging.

Yeah, there's the skill involved and the need for like, you often hear in fantasy, every forge in the country is burning over time to build the swords for the fires of industry, et cetera, because it would require that. They didn't have that centralized, industrialized workforce to just make swords, but because you need craftsmen like blacksmiths doing one-offs

But when you're forging or no when you're when you're casting you just need some dummy You know the hard part was made when they met when they built the cast Now some dummy can just pour and shift and snap the pieces apart. It's like Legos now. Yeah What is your if you have a theory on like the pyramids or, oh, what I was going to say about like the pyramid, like apparently there's some South American pyramids that are aligned the same way as the Giza pyramids in regard to like reflecting the stars position. Yeah. And that's, it's so cool. Like it seems like it's cool to think that there were advanced civilizations way before that we just know nothing about and it would almost play into like the cyclical nature of humanity even

in our short timeframe of like we become hyper advanced, we get something cool, we destroy ourselves or the technology destroys itself and then answer the Fermi paradox as well. I think what they had going on was Fermi paradox. It's why there aren't aliens everywhere. That's the question Where are they the question is? Hey, the universe is old enough that there should be lots of alien civilizations around Why aren't we seeing that? So there must be some great filter is the Civilization killing itself. Does the civilization decide to go dark and not communicate with other civilizations? like is it that it's just extremely

Uncommon for two amino acids to bang and make a cell or however that happens and that was RNA I did a little research on that and I didn't learn anything The RNA first, okay, yeah are in a first. And I'm like, OK, yeah, RNA. First of all, learn to spell its DNA. And yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. I'm completely. Yeah, I have no idea what I was thinking. No, but I think that when they look at those,

some of the big constructions from ancient civilizations, even like Stonehenge and stuff like that, that's just rock stuck up. They had a purpose, right? Their calendars that they were using to calculate the seasons, and in conjunction with, and that was important for crop harvesting,

for animal migration, and for older ceremonies and rituals that they would do that probably date back to a time when man didn't understand winter and summer. And so they sort of created these mythos where winter was the bad guy was coming in the winter and to drive him away, we need to sacrifice this guy here or we need to burn this or do this dance or say these prayers. And what you know, tomorrow is going to have a little more time in it because you know the wobble of earth's different, the seasons are changing and the days are going to get longer and longer.

Then they get warm again and being able to predict that would have been important for any number of reasons, not just for your crops and everything, but maybe like we see in apocalypto how the priest who was an amateur astronomer utilizing the technology that they had was able to predict the solar eclipse. And they were able to leverage his knowledge of a coming solar eclipse, his understanding of what one was, or at least that one came and went free of the will of man. He was able to leverage that into manipulating the whole society, into saying, tomorrow the king, the God will take away your son, but our God-King, he will drive the son back, he will bring it back for you. And like, just telling people that, and then it happens tomorrow, who's

gonna argue against that when you're, you know, just a citizen of this- Nobody, you will have just seen it. You just saw the gods take away the son, and your king say, fuck you, bring it back. And maybe he had to sacrifice 10 guys and roll their heads to make it happen. But holy shit, the sun was gone for a minute. Just see that it got cold. You don't think it was going to get colder. It was going to turn to the ever winter or whatever their fucking mythos was.

So I think that happened a lot everywhere that everybody who figured out any bit of astronomy that that led to some basic math and that led to a structure of control that gave them an underclass that they could utilize to build better monuments to those systems of control and when they look at like South America, they see the remnants in the jungle of huge cities they see the remnants in the jungle of huge cities. I think what happened is those early explorers just wiped out tens of millions of people and whole civilizations that we never got to even look up with in the Amazon. I thought those ancient civilizations, like the giant ones you're talking about, way predated. Like Mayans, Aztecs, Spanish conquistadors. Like this was way older stuff.

But not that I know of. The stuff I know about is the Mayans and the Aztecs. And then I was watching something today about a North American equivalent. Yeah. The Incas, the North American equivalent in the, in the, well, south of south Western part of the Central America, Anastasi and, and all those groups are in the Southwest. They had vast empires, but it's the building of the monolithic structures that's interesting. I don't think there were any ancient civilizations that had computers or fucking iPhones or even electricity

or even steam power outside of toys that the Romans had that were powered by steam. But I do think that they had like a system, like one of the important things that you need is you need an abundance of food, surplus of food so that you can have some people who are just provided for to learn how to do the other things, to get your society cooking and like learning new things.

Specialization. Yeah, specialization. And I think that that happened time and time again. There's that site in Turkey whose name is very difficult to pronounce. I think it's- Go back go back. Go back Lee Tappy. That's it. Not really. Go back Lee Tappy. Um, and I heard what was every once in a while. What do I try and remember the fake Pokemon you did on our trivia game? Do you remember it? Because it killed me.

But anyway, sorry, Kyle. No, that's it. It's just like I do think that those ancient civilizations existed and that they were advanced. But the advanced part was like, you know, maybe they had a system of government with I believe the Neanderthals. I think there's evidence that they found that the Neanderthals had basic art and stuff. They're wearing jewelry that had been, you know, carved and designed and built. Like, that's a pretty advanced group of people, I think, when you're painting and crafting things. And you also see them with wounds that have healed that couldn't have been... They were unsurvivable injuries if you were not cared for. They see people from those old times,

100,000 years old bodies that have clearly, or clearly elders that had been looked after. They found genetic evidence in the burial tombs in the southwest of a line of, that runs down the female line of six toed people who were clearly the leaders of this tribe in the southwest Hey, you could tell that it went down the line They all had a common female and ancestor not male and they were like maybe six of them But I'm probably thinking six because they all had six toes You know at six toes and clearly they had made like the six toed woman their priestess a long time ago And then she had an empire that ran for six ancient generations. How long is that?

What if a long time from now the time about years blue-blooded royalty? Along you know in the same way. Yeah Right. Yeah, there was I guess you guys, there was a royal family that had blue skin as kind of a genetic abnormality. And because they inbred so much, it lasted a long time. Oh, I thought blue blood meant that like, you were so untouched by manual labor in the sun that like your veins still looked like the...

So as a third party outsider to both of your wacky theories I will say that I would support Taylor's theory over Woody's because I do not believe any human has ever bled blue and I don't think So to be clear it's blue skin tone Not blue blood My research in trying to prove myself right is that it was a family in Kentucky, not Royal. Like I said, I'm looking for, uh, am I right?

The Kentucky blue bloods, the Kentucky blue bloods, owners of the largest silver mine. of the largest silver mine in the world. Now it'd be some old lady selling colloidal silver on Etsy poisoning everyone. We can determine, you know, maybe Grok is lying to me. The term blue blood originates from the Spanish phrase Sangre Azul, which is used by medieval nobility in Spain to distinguish themselves from common people. The idea was tied to their pale skin through which their veins appeared blue,

suggesting purity of lineage untainted by Moorish or other non-noble blood during the Reconquista. You don't want that Moorish blood in you. So that's from AI? That's from AI, yeah. Because there's a Reddit title of a post that is word for word, it was like you were reading it to me.

Yeah, I bet it just, see, that's the risk with using this shit is just wait a minute yeah the card chicken in the egg though like like maybe the original was a doctor that should be cited somewhere but it just grok read that and then so did your Redditor he just copy pasted it yeah that sounds fucking good to me I don't think grok could just made that up out of whole cloth. I was just thinking about royalty, having blue skin in school. I remember it. I am repeating to you what I was taught in school and teachers are fallible because I think she was wrong. Yes. Looking back,

a lot of my teachers were like 23 year old girls that had no idea how anything worked. The Habsburg, the Habsburg jaw. Yes, it is a German royal or a Prussian royal family or something like that where they just kept, you know, this weird dominant jutting out lower jaw. They were so inbred. I'm shocked that they were still fertile once they got to that level of inbreeding that they could still produce more heirs. It's disgusting Yeah, okay, and you just imagine like the commons the common folk of Austria or wherever the fuck were probably like oh if only I had a disgusting to form Joel like Prince nutsack Like they're so disgusting. Can you imagine being like the French Princess

that's like being courted by the last Habsburg that didn't want to fuck a cousin? What if it made him like incredible at eating pussy? It looks like he could bite your eyebrows off though if he wanted to. He does. This was an ugly- Was it the lower jaws forward. Yeah, it was a very What is the word Hapsburg they that's how it's described now They they talk about the Hapsburg like deformity Hapsburg jaw like it's a whole thing

It's it's jutting forward in a way you've never seen before Mmm Let's see Habsburg jaw a way you've never seen before. Hmm. Let's see. Habsburg job. Prognath prognathism, mandibular prognathism. It's not attractive. I was going to pretend that I thought it was hot. I can't do it. That's not not a guy on the left looks mostly normal.

I don't have all the Hatsburg women you want. I'll take the hairy ones. Actually, it's only the guy on the right. He looks really fucked up. The guy in the middle, it just looks like he's got an underbite. The guy on the left doesn't look too bad at all. Oh, actually, I can kind of see it now a little bit. Yeah. This guy's got it rough. Is that a man? That's a man. Dude, to be the poster child for your own inbred fucking Austrian royal family. They created their own thing. Can you tell it's a man?

Because they wouldn't paint a woman. Because I've seen pictures of this guy before. It's a man. They wouldn't paint a woman that ugly, would he? And look at his nose. Dude, my my fucking my my textbook from 1810 would have a lot to say about this guy. You know what else?

Not trustworthy sinister. Here's a little thought. I don't know about this, but imagine, do you think that that artist was likely to be as accurate as he really could be while he painted the emperor of Austria's ugly ass? Like he had to be terrified. Like I don't want, I want it to look like him, but if I make it look like him, he's going to hang me. So like, like he had to come somewhere. I bet he like fixed his skin tone. Like, like maybe he didn't include that Phil Hellmuth mole. Polk didn't want to make fun of the ball. That was funny. Well, he's in his wheelhouse, you know, I

don't care. Oh, I know, but he's a... Okay, so you can have... you can have maxillary prognathism, which is like where your front jaw goes out too far. That's like a picture like a Simpsons character. And then mandibular prognathism is the one we see with the Habsburgs, where it's just way the f**king out here. That's how I imagine it sounding as well. It's it's that schmarr. Yes. Well, this is just the voice that they do in Family Guy for Lord Undertooth. That's it.

That's it. I was picturing Lord Undertooth. Yeah. Yeah. Nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's fucking disgusting. I also watched an African scientist the other day, I mean witch doctor, and he was explaining why... We are continuing our research on if bald men are in fact keeping gold in their heads. Like eight decapitated guys around him, he's like, it is inconclusive. So far it has just been very gross.

He was explaining why they didn't invent the wheel and how they didn't need a wheel. Dude, that is the most hilarious cope. He said that they had other technologies that were wheel adjacent. And so they could have had the wheel if they wanted, they just didn't need it. We did not need the wheel or agriculture. These are things that we do not need because we are wealthy with the gold men,

the gold head, the golden head of the bald men. That is what we are doing. Sorry, your question about the wheel flustered and frustrated me. What's interesting about them is they're struggling with AIDS still. Like I feel like the rest of the world, we got our hands around AIDS, you know?

Like people stopped having such risky sex. And then the people who do have the risky sex, they made drugs for them to prevent it. And then in condoms and they got the word out from childhood, Magic Johnson was the big proponent. The Western devil tried to rob my fertility with these demonic rubber bags. I said, goddamn, you cannot stop me.

Like standing next to a billboard that says, please for the love of God, wear a condom sponsored by the EU. And he's like, you will never trick me into wearing one of your demon Western bags. They would explain that it makes your dick shrink or something. They would have some sort of, it will shrink your penis until it fall off your body.

And they show like a picture of like Elliot Page with a giant clit and like this man, this man here, condom, cookies, coke. It fucked him up so bad. This was the star of a movie that I love called Juno.

Because of Condom, he is not a cute little boy. He is a weird looking little man. Yeah. I saw that. An African guy who thought that Ellen Page was a man in Juneau. Yes I know but I'm saying the African guy thinks that oh

He thought that fertility was ruined by it. Yeah. Yeah, they really don't have a good handle on AIDS down Not even close like it's it's a problem I read some stat first of all, there was that stat about American literacy that was just rough. So let's get that out of the way first. It's not great. Really? Yeah. It's not on us though. We read just swell over here. All of our generations do as well, if you ask me. It's the only way it's going to be literate. Do you have to be able to spell esophagus? Sixth grade level is what they were using. It's like it's bafflingly easy stuff. Like people, I think like one of the examples is easy stuff. It was easy stuff as in like, it was

like at this level people are troubled greatly and will absolutely require assistance filling out basic government paperwork or going to the DMP. It's like a shocking level of illiteracy. Sixth grade level. And it was like the majority maybe couldn't do it. But in African nations, and I don't remember the one in particular, they're all awful. I think there's something going on right now in like the Congo and with like the remember they're always taking off. Remember the Rwandan genocide? I think that's popping off again.

But guess how many people died in the Rwandan genocide? I don't know exactly, but I have a pretty good handle on it, I think. Like an estimation. Like, I'm guessing that. 510,000. 510,000. Woody, how many people do you think, as you Google?

No, no. I'm changing. I'm changing. I didn't lock it in. 1.1 million. No, I'm sticking with my 510,000. 510,000 Rwandan genocide. Woody, do you have an answer?

Rwand and genocide? I didn't just Google it. I googled what continent is Yemen in because I was related That's so funny I would have guessed Africa but is in like some sort of it's Asia. I wasn't sure I was gonna say you're a Europe. That's not Europe, is it? Is that? It's Middle East. So it's a mix.

Well, the continent is the important, but like specifically though, like Yemen, what part is it in? It's only five to 800,000. I was given a much higher number. Is it Yemen directly south of Saudi Arabia? Yes. Okay.

I was given a much, Zagas. What's the other one directly south of Saudi Arabia Taylor? I Think it's Oman. Let me know you're right. It's Oman. No, it's Oman Anyway, that's popping off again in Congo. And so I was reading about that and he says only 800 thousand people died He says there were half a million rapes. I know there were a ton of sex crimes. It's the there's that the minority Ethnic group that had previously held power over the region. I believe they were overthrown and maybe hunted down ruthlessly and exterminated.

But I was looking at the AIDS rates of one of those smaller African nations. Again, it's that situation where I think there used to be a country called Zaire, and then it became something else. Maybe it became the Democratic Republic of Congo, and then it became something else. Then I think it might be back to that. So, fuck all the names over there. But they had like a 35% or 40% AIDS rate, like infection rate. I saw like South Africa, sorry, or at least certain populations in South Africa and Lesotho and a lot of those countries, or maybe it was, isn't Lesotho like the fully landlocked, like somewhat sovereign nation in the middle of South Africa and it has like a 30% HIV rate, 30% AIDS rate, I guess? I really don't know.

I just know in the small country that they were focusing on, which was around Congo that was involved in that war that's currently popping off. Yeah. Well, the Congo is way north of. It was a huge number. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

I know that. I don't know much about South Africa. If Africa wants us to learn their country names, they gotta fucking have some stick-to-it-iveness. Like, make the decision and stick with it. I'd like them to combine. There's too many, they're like states. I don't expect them to know the name of all our states. They just need one larger country. Or just memorize that. Like having a Sudan and the South Sudan. Fuck. That's bullshit. Yeah, no, that's bullshit. We'd never do that here in America. If I conquered well, the different countries, it would be like if Mexico uh, South United States, we would immediately be like, get your own shit.

And we have a new Mexico. That's crazy that we have that. Yeah. That's like, I mean, if they had new America, we'd be like, what? What do you mean? United States. If it was like, if it was one of their provinces, but if we made new Canada, it'd be silly. And yet we have new Mexico. It wouldn't make sense for them to have a new America unless they were like, refounding something, right? Why does it make sense that we have a New Mexico? Because like it was Mexico and then we took it and then we were like, oh, it's New Mexico. It's kind of like New England.

How does that make sense? Because it used to be an English territory and then we took it and we were like, all right, it's fucking new England. Like it used to be Mexican territory. And then we took it and we go, it's new. If someone went to Africa and just called it new America and then be kind of parallel. Yeah, but we didn't own it. Oh, we did kind of own or England did kind of England had the new So in this scenario, they would need to own the new place too.

Yeah. Otherwise, it's like, what are you even doing? Like just making shit up. And like, I guess so, because if I were the warlord who segmented South Sudan away from North Sudan, or which is just Sudan, first order of business is like online survey name ideas. Everyone go because we're not staying South Sudan. We're having our own proud. Sudan, first order of business is like online survey, name ideas, everyone go. Because we're not staying in South Sudan.

We're having our own proud. And of course, Hitler did nothing wrong wins. And yes, just like the Mountain Dew survey. All we do is filter down until we get something good like Baja grape. Like we get a new nation of Baja Grape. Bum, ba, bum, bum. Although like in Africa, they have none of the history ties to Hitler.

So they would like see that and they'd be like, did you know that this guy, all of his men were Hugo Boss? That's so tight. I love this. In this scenario, where you're the ruler of Baja Grape Africa. Yeah.

Can I represent us in the Olympics in the a hundred meter freestyle? That might be our best. 100%. The African nation of Baja Grape? Freestyle? No, he's swimming. Swimming he's talking about.

Oh, the landlocked land of Baja Grape. Baja Grape, which is South Sudan. We would love it if you would perform for us. Please, please. Please. And like, they would be impressed. We got an above ground pool full of dead black guys. I wouldn't even train in swimming. This man jumped into the water and then afterward, you would not believe this, he emerged.

He came out of the water after he'd keep in. He did not die. I didn't even train in swimming. I just devote all my energy to looking good in a swimsuit. That's the only thing that matters. They're just all like, they just love that you gave an effort. They're like, he swam the entire pool and unlike Mugumbe, he did not die an embarrassment. On the real stage.

Mugumbe is still floating out there because everybody's afraid to go get him. He leaps off the platform immediately starts running. It is not like running. You lied to me. I was tricked. It is just like running, Motombo. Which was this or skiing? You've seen that movie, right?

With the Jamaican bobsled team, cool runnings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that a true story? I choose to believe it is. Good for them. You know how I know it's a true story? Actually, I take it back. Well, I saw on Reddit a while back, they had the the bobsled.

They had the cool runnings bobsled. They were showing it and I think they were in Jamaica and I was like, ah So it was all real and I was like no you dumbass. That's the movie prop They just left the movie prop in Jamaica when they go back home I googled it This is the AI answer but it says the movies pretty much fake one percent is true But there is a Jamaican bobsled team. Good for them. In the 88 Winter Olympics.

See, this is like the scales on dinosaurs. It will always be real to me. There you go. Cool. Dude, I don't know why you're so anti-feather. Feathers are bad ass. You take a scaled dinosaur, which is basically a naked, undefended dinosaur,

and you give them feathers, and those feathers fluffle up and they get 30% bigger than they really are and they shake and they wiggle and the sound is intimidating like a rattlesnake's tail. Even you don't think that's cool. I do. No, no, scales are tight. You see, you know what I think? Have you seen that bird that does the beak slapping thing to intimidate its like enemies or whatever? The something shoe bill. Yeah. So that thing like rapidly claps it, it's beaked together and it's so fast. It's a bizarre noise. And I was thinking when I saw that, like, I bet that's a behavior that's not new. I can imagine a dinosaur doing that.

Like, like gnashing its teeth together and making a scary noise to scare you all. I did that a lot. The Dilophosaurus or whatever it is that's that in Jurassic Park, it's the one that spits the acid. And I don't think it did that in real life. That's a real animal. There's no real crane.

Yeah. That's what that's to me. so scary. If you scale that up a little bit and you give it some weapons. Like if all of a sudden that thing is eight feet tall and beefy eight feet tall 180 pounds. That is so scary. Put scales on it even scarier. I mean I guess but I don't know I feel like I'd be it'd be easier to wound something that it was scales. Well I feel like the I don't know if you've ever tried to fight a bird before Taylor, but it's hard to get it Yeah, I'm tell me tell you sometimes I'll come across an ordinary goose. Ah See, it's hard to get a good shot in on them because you hit all that fluff. They got that down

You know, they're just walking around where one of those winter jackets. It's all poofy like any you think you got them But you just got some fluff Yeah No I I would hate geese more on the way to my car in the parking lot. If they had a bunch of scales. Cause I'd be like, this thing seems relatively armored. If I worked for the Trump administration, clearly he, he like, is mad at

Canada for some petty reason, like, like he, there seems to be a little vitriol there that hockey, I would be his venom guy. Yeah. I bet. Is that not why we're, is that not why we're mad at Canada? No, no, but I would be his venom guy hockey game yeah I bet is that not why we're is that not romantic Canada no no but I would have Trump go after their geese I would do something petty like that I would I would either have like I would either have the geese renamed to American geese because they technically spend more of their time in a oh my gosh that's hilarious I would

take their goose away and and if that's hilarious. I would take their goose away. And if that didn't work, I would. Exterminate them on other grounds. I would say that they are, are, are they're taking away the nesting grounds of the American mallard, the most majestic of, of, of, of water fowl. And, uh, and we will no longer stand for the big loud mouth Canadians to tell the Americans what's what. So we have sent a crew out to rub Vaseline

on any goose egg that they find. We are exterminating their race. I actually did see where they were using nitrogen to take out some geese at some golf course or some Why would Vaseline be bad on the eggs die? I guess Yeah, what if we went swan instead of Mallard? I don't think there's more Oh, you mean it seems more like you know parallel to the goose We could pretend like they're messing with bald eagles for all I care We could say that the geese are coming down here and they blinded a kid. They plucked his eye right out

Oh, they they Johnny America here hey you're like this isn't Carrie Lake this one's Carrie River and she's a geese victim and they just talked about her for the next six years no yeah well I think I don't like Carrie Lake or that we remember isn't she the one who was like murdered by an immigrant they talk about Lincoln Riley is who I'm going Lincoln Riley she was the one who was raped and murdered by the river Riley. I like yeah Yeah, she's beaten to death over the course of like half an hour here in Athens, Georgia by a migrant that we Bust around and flew around the country to the on our dime hilarious

I'm glad that guy's in prison for the rest of his life and they named a law after they should have sent him to El Salvador Dude, did you see those dudes being unloaded in El Salvador? No, I did not only some of them the propaganda video had like 20 of them and there's like a hundred and fifty total Taylor We sold a bunch of bad guys to El Salvador No a opposite we paid El Salvador a bunch of money to take these bad guys from us and put them in their scary super max that dude, when they show that prison from the outside, I've seen wide angle lens. It looks like a future dystopic like prison colony. It looks very clean and futuristic concrete glass and steel. And they have those guys hobbled either bent over and a very awkward, like, they walk like chimps.

You know, chimps have that alert bent over walk with their hands in front, their ankles, they're shackled and bent over in a, I've been shackled before to be transported, never like this, they're hunched over like chimps and they're being led with like a hand on the back of their neck and like two guys on either, a guy on either side, hands under their arms,

dragging them into the facility fucking shave your beard off Like shave your I saw I saw them do this with like the initial like the the gang members Where they have it in now we scooped up tons of gang members and now El Salvador has a remarkably low violent crime rate We are turns out if you lock up all these recidivist violent criminals it gets better shocking. Just as a quick overview what happened is I guess in Aurora Colorado it was said that an apartment building was overrun with immigrant gangsters. Kyle a little help on the country was it Venezuela? Venezuela, Trinidad and Aragua. So they their names. Rounded up like 250 people. If that number's not right, it's not on purpose, but it's a lot more than they show in the video.

And they sent them to El Salvador to be housed in their super max prison. If you look at the video, it's hard to disagree with it. Cause these guys look so scary and they're all in their prison uniforms. So clearly they're bad people. Beards like bad people and tats and, and the couple that get their camera closeups. Oh my God. They're like made for TV. They're there. They're even

still a little defiant, you know, there's like a vibe about them. Like, do you think, do youismo. Do you think El Salvador Supermax prisons are gonna take me down? Like, yes. I've had worse. Yes. Oh, you haven't. No, you haven't.

But the other side of the argument is that none of these people were convicted. Some of them weren't even identified. They just grabbed them and threw them on. They don't know their real names. None of them had any due process, but they're gone. And it's like, Ooh, this is a little problematic. And now the someone went to court on their behalf and the judge said, turn the plane around.

And Trump said a suck a fat one and defied official order. So then they put it in writing cause there's this thing about the non-verbal one. I'm sorry about the verbal order. And he's like, we don't listen to verbal orders, which is not a legal thing. So they're like, okay, please explain to us why the third plane kept going to, that one came after the written order.

And they're like, we need more time to get back to you. So they just pretty much openly defied the judge who said you can't like send these people away without any kind of trial or anything And again, they didn't know their names though. Like you're supposed to there. Oh, that was Before they put them in an El Salvador prison I know you're saying good because you're assuming that they made good choices when they picked the people Yeah, but you can't assume they made good choices when they don't even know their names. So that's the other side of the argument. You can land

wherever you want. I think our new dynamic of not arguing so strongly anymore is better. But anyway, I tried to present both sides of the story. Yeah, I'm definitely on the side of, yeah, deport the illegals. And if there are a bunch of violent criminals that are taking over apartment complexes and neighborhoods, like a judge who's trying to undo that is like actively making decisions that are harmful to Americans.

And so I'm totally fine with just ignoring some words. Like, you need to bring these people back. No, I doubt the judge is bloodsizing anything about that. Judge is thinking like, I want to make sure Taylor doesn't get black bagged and hold off to Nicaragua or some shit to surely. That's what it is. I, I, I, I, I doubt that he's the judge is a member of Venezuelan street gang. So it's probably something in the middle.

However, I just wanted to point out that it looked hardcore as fuck. That they were like good, bad or ugly. They were flown to that country far away and they were shackled up like chimpanzees and they were forcibly shaved head and beard and like thrown into those chain gang lines. It's crazy. Is this an old one?

Oh, this is four days ago. Cause I watched some of the big thing when they were doing their own looks like a movie gang removals. And it looked a lot like this. So this checks out this is how they roll in whoever filmed this is not documenting their filming. Okay, this is this is made with a flare. This is made with production design. Okay, this is not this is not documentary. This is this is a littlelair. This is made with production design. Okay, this is not documentary. This is a little bit of film. Like somebody is shooting this dramatically.

Like they have a, this is not the lens that just views with a blank stare or whatever. I don't know how to phrase it correctly, but this is not an impartial lens. This is a- Yeah, these guys are having a bad time. Oh, I'm sorry. Are these El Salvadorian guards a little tougher

to intimidate than that elderly woman who lived next to you in the apartment complex? I'm so sorry. With the scenarios. If you're right, I agree with you. I just worry that they didn't even get their names. They just threw them on planes and like identified them by vibe.

Well, his street name is Baby Eater Mike. Now, I feel I'm the rapist. I think it's a look. Nobody we all want to be tough on crime. But I think that tough on crime gets waved anytime we want to like do some shit and take away some liberty. So you got to walk that thin line. I hope that they did send Venezuelan street gang members to that hell hole, but I hope they didn't accidentally scoop up a fucking taco stand vendor or like, I don't know, something like that. Uh, yeah, I doubt that. You know what I mean? That that many people was it? Was I right about two 50? I have one 50 in my head. I don't want to be wrong. Yeah. I don't know. I remember it says over 200 alleged members. And so, okay. So I was close.

I remember doing the math in my head and it was going to cost a quarter mill a piece or something like that. What we paid them to take them. And I was like, that's a steal. That might be a bargain. Yeah. Is prisoner 150 grand a year? Does that sound like 50? I have that number in my head too. Yeah. So five years of break even. Five years of break even. Well El Salvador has these big, beautiful prisons. They're just looking for a bunch of gang members. They're so scary.

That, that, that, good. Who's they in your sentence? That prison. The prison or the best prison. That prison and its facilities. And it's- Dude, have you seen the stats on like who commits violent crime? It's like a shockingly low number of people. Like in New York,

something like, like a plurality of violent assaults and like sex crimes and stuff was committed by like a thousand 2000 people. And it was just them in a revolving door, just over and over and over and over and over. And so it's like, yeah, take those people and lock them up forever. They've already showed they can't participate in common society, at least not nice Western common society. And so fuck off. Like a lot of people just need to be locked up. Like if you're a repeat violent offender, like you're, no, you're out, no more chances. No more, no more coming out.

Shut it down. Their rights don't supersede the rights of the people they're going to harm. When I was young, younger than you, three strikes you're out was like created and I was like 10,000% on board. I'm like, look, I don't necessarily wanna ruin a guy forever for like a bar fight.

But when we get into triplicates here, well, now you're telling me who you are. And now every so often there's like, you know, one was like this sort of justifiable bar fight. One was the thing that, you know, it actually makes him a bad guy. And the other is this new thing that's a misunderstanding. You actually makes him a bad guy. And the other is this new thing. That's a misunderstanding. He didn't even start the fight. And now that's his third strike and he's screwed. Is that the common situation? Probably not.

But I was like, man, when you take away judgment from judges with these mandatory sentences, I think you might make a mistake. Like it should be a guideline that the judge is inclined to follow, but still is allowed to use. I like those slap on the wrist type judges myself. I mean, I'm not going for that either, but if a judge could use judgment, you know, like, ah,

like, okay, let's admit this one thing is a bullying, isn't it? And we hate that. This other thing, he was the bullying victim and that's not the same as the other violent crimes. I don't think that's reminiscent of most of these situations that I think like most of them are involved in violent. I like guidelines, but not mandates.

If you're involved in like, if you're involved in like, you know, eight violent crimes and you claim they're all self-defense, like I just don't, I don't believe you. Have you ever seen a Chuck Norris movie? It happens. It does. Sometimes, everywhere you go, all the time, you're attacked by groups of ninjas.

Okay? What about who to do? Lay the fuck down? He has to kung-fu the ninjas to death. Hell no, I'm not going to lay the fuck down. I'm Delta Force. I already rescued those guys back in Nam. I'm going to defend myself.

They're mass ninjas. They could be commies. And so I did. Okay. Turns out. Stop being so silly, Taylor. I'm being so silly. It was Halloween and I misunderstood some things, but that three strikes you're at, I don't think so.

It was Halloween and I misunderstood. It's funny. Like. I just want to get it right. Like I'll throw away a key. I'm right with you on like the guy you're describing, et cetera. But you know, every so often there's a guy who's like, man, I did one shitty thing. The other two were kind of more borderline, but three strikes. I think what's more common

than the like, I want to be like, I think more common. It's like someone commits a violent assault, some defender and then judge gives them leniency. And then they go and assault another innocent person because they haven't like, that's what I think really is going on. That doesn't happen thousands of times a day all the time. And so it's a really good point. And I'm like, man, like, so there's the, I'm going to misquote it, but it's like, it's better to set a hundred guilty men free than to lock one innocent one up. And it's like, all right, do you agree with that or not?

No, because those hundred- No, what the fuck? No, no, no, because it's more complicated than that. Like it's a crime. You don't wanna be locking up innocent people. Right. But a hundred guilty, violent assaulters, murderers, rapists, whatever back on the street, harms.

We always qualifiers. Well, these aren't qualifiers. That's what we're talking about. The innocent guys didn't get qualifiers. They didn't get to be priests and mothers and children. They just got to be the innocent. Add whatever qualifier. The bad guys get the qualifiers.

It's you and your family, all of them. So Taylor, like just you would do a hundred ninety-nine bad guys and one good guy, you'd lock them all up and say society's better on average. Oh, on average, like if we're just using it, they are better on average. Yes, on average, they would be better. Like morally, it's like, it's a quandary. Because like, because like, think about this, like, let's take, let's take 99 murderers just to use the most baseline, like, or 100 murderers, 100 people accused

of murder, 99 of them are guilty, one is innocent. Back to the qualifiers. What? What he said, 100 men, he said guilty men and innocent men. I'm just picking a crime, murder. Would you rather do rape? You're making it harder. Oh, I'm not.

Okay. Well, if it's making it harder, that's good. 100 murder people accused of murder 99 guilty one innocent, all 100 are locked up. Does the murder rate go down or up? Down, irrelevant down. And so all the people's lives who would have been murdered are continuing. And so if you're just doing this like weird utilitarian math question, then yes, that is better. It's only when you get into like a moral quandary of

like, is that one person's innocence worth the other 99 people potentially murdering more people? That's interesting because it would be 2000 people, 2000 Americans a year. We'd send to the electric chair who were innocent with your plan. And how many would not be innocent? Like, if we're going to free all the murder convictions on the other way, it would be 190,000 murderers. What I'm saying is what I'm saying is we're not looking at whether there

would be it's a better future or it's a happier time or we just want to live in a society where that's true. It's like what's right and wrong, right? It's a philosophical question, not a math question. That's why on the I don't want innocent people going to jail. I just want to explain where I'm coming from in his scenario Every innocent man was going free too And I guess that is how I laid it out. So in fairness, but I think in the practice if we wanted to make sure no innocent men

But I think in the practice, if we wanted to make sure no innocent men went, lot got locked up, then probably not 99 guilty ones also go free. Probably we get like 90 of the guilty ones and then nine guilties get lumped in with the innocent, but at least no innocence go to prison. Did I explain it clearly? Yes. And so like it was, it was the framing of like the 99 to one that made it very easy for me at least to be like, yeah, obviously that's better for. So now we're like, well, we have good evidence against me, but if it's made our burden of proof high

enough that the innocent guy goes free and sadly, so do nine guilties. Yeah. And so that's it. Then it's like, now it's harder. It does get harder. Yeah. Because you like, there is a lot of value to the innocent person not being scooped up. Aren't we just doing one of those train tracker like conversations at this? Yes, a trolley. That is what it is. Yeah, I don't want to say maybe in the prison. What is the number? That he was a silly question, right? It's a silly question. I'm right here. Well, you're asking what's the number of imbalance that I've come forward with. No, I didn't ask that because that would have been an unfair framing. And so I totally empathize

with what you're saying. Like it is better to have more innocent people out. To circle back to the previous conversation, now we're throwing people into an El Salvador super max and we don't even know their name. But they kind of say like gangsters. I don't know their name but we know their names not Mike Smith from Georgia. We know they're not give their names when asked. Yeah. And some of them have no criminal records and some of them we don't even know their names. So that's you don't know. I would imagine that if they were citizens and like mechanics, they would have given their name and they would have checked it,

but they're likely not. Oh yeah. I feel it. I don't think anyone's claiming they're like upstanding citizens. Your doctor's in there somewhere, but, but we are definitely saying that like, we don't really know if they did anything. They just seem like the people. I do care less about the rights of non-citizens than I care about. This is also nebulous to me.

Like it just feels like we're talking about a fog or something, because my question would be, OK, we sold these people to El Salvador or no, we paid. We had to pay for it. There's no way they gave us money. We paid these people to take these these human beings from us. What are they going to do with them? Are they going to try them? I would imagine they are.

I would imagine they're going to be tried in the Venezuelan system for the crimes that they committed in Venezuela and then be punished as such. Because it doesn't make sense to me. And I'm thinking like, from a capitalist standpoint, it doesn't make sense business-wise for me

for this prison to say, yeah, we'll just house them forever. Like in the dark wing, where we have no idea who anybody is. They're gonna wanna identify and punish with the correct years and then shuffle them out of the prison so they can sell those beds to more Americans, right? Yes. I'm quickly searching to see if they're being tried.

Yeah, I just think it's in their best interest and I usually look to that to guide me to what will happen for them to try and then punish on a case-by-case basis rather than do the Tower of London or whatever, and just keep them there forever. I mean, and also like the most financially astute thing to do would be to kill them, to just kill them. Yeah. That is the billion in finances. Death penalty is cheap if you don't have

a million layers of safeguards, but for somebody with death penalty- You had them at 35,000 feet over the Atlantic Ocean. I have a few more facts. First of all, there was 238 of them. So I said 250, I was wrong but close. And it doesn't look like they're gonna be tried at all. They were just sent away under the Alien Enemies Act,

which is something that we use when we're at war with another country and their people are in ours. And it's from like 1798, yes. It's a- A lot of our laws are. Yeah. Yeah, true, true. This is one of those laws that I think

hasn't really been invoked for a long time. They didn't even use it in World War II. I thought they used it against the Japs to intern them. We used something against the Japs to intern them. We used something, yeah, I forget that there were, the people got tried in World War II and they didn't now. And it doesn't look like they're gonna be tried, but I'm just looking at one article. I'm not sure about that. I would want to get further clarification because my understanding was, look, the way historians seem to look at the internment of Japanese during World War II is this major faux pas.

It's like, oh my God, can you believe that we were as bad as the Nazis? And it's like, fuck you. Those weren't extermination camps. Those were keeping those sneaky Japs at bay because they would have been throwing fucking fall bearings into the gears. George, they'd have been draining the gas out of military trucks. It's a good thing they locked me up. I was going to go hog wild.

I know you were Sulu you son of a bitch they'd have you in some sort of they'd have put him in a We're not spit in a World War two fighter plane like a little gremlin inside of it tinker around It was used in World War two against non citizens of Japan, Germany and Italy So I was wrong. Yeah, I didn't know they got any Germans or Italians. We're like really loud as they were being taken. Oh, come on. Talking with their hands like, can we get these cups off? I've never heard of a speech issue here. I can't express myself.

I've never heard that before about's a freedom of speech issue here. I can't express myself. I've never heard that before about Italians or Germans. In fact, I've often heard it by the Japanese that like they didn't take any Germans. They didn't do this to the Italians. And then I know that like I think the Italian mob was helping the US government guard the port in maybe New York. Like during that time, because there was there was fear of Nazi infiltration via the ports and there were U-boats out in the Atlantic of course you know it was a whole thing like they weren't they were on the other side of the world but they weren't at the

same time there was always the fear of that and uh and I'm sure like Americans you're saying Italian mob you might be right but I'm Italian immigrants those were Americans that we locked up I believe those are just Japanese immigrants that were just American citizens. I thought I think a lot of them weren't citizens, but there were citizens in there too, like a lot of citizens. I mean, George Takei was a little kid. I'm almost positive he was born here and they threw him into that camp. I think it was mostly citizens.

Oh God. Saving rifles. It's me. It was where I had my first gay experience and I loved it. I have fond memories of the camp. I learned to play baseball and got my dick sucked. He was like six.

Oh, I don't know. I thought he was 100 years old. I mean, he's old, but that was World War Two. He remembers to have an 80. I'm Japanese, but that was World War II. He remembers still that they have an 80. I'm Japanese, so it's hard to tell. I age so well. Dude, William Shatner is still kicking it. How old is Shatner?

Dude, he's like 90 now. Good for him. He is the best looking 90 year old ever. Like Clint Eastwood is still 93. So Clint Eastwood is also 93 or 94, roughly. He made a movie last year that's a really good movie. But but like that guy looks great I don't normally defend the fat, but I think they age better just cosmetically He's plump and it keeps his skin tight and he has the best wig

Designer in the world like whoever comes up with William Shatner's wig. He hasn't had hair Dude, he's been bald since the movies like the first like Star Trek 2 maybe he's got a wig in that He's waiting. No, he's got a girdle on in Star Trek 1 Yeah, I mean like this is a fat bald man He was a sex symbol in the late 60s I mean you've seen he looks like fucking Romeo out of Romeo and Juliet or some shit. And then like, you know, he's 94, you said? He's 93. He looks amazing. He looks unbelievable for 93. Yeah. He's the best 94 year old or whatever I've ever seen.

What a... Oh, you said Clint Eastwood. Yeah. I mean, he has that like... He's 94. And he like for a 90... He looks all the shit. Sort of Sh mean he has that like he's 94 and he like 4 and 9 and he looks old as shit so Shatner but like for a 94 year old Clint Eastwood looks incredible. Eastwood always stayed fit he was fit even in his later roles that were like old man roles like there was a movie called Space Cowboys where they had to prepare a satellite that was antiquated so they flew up an old astronaut who never was. Look at that, oh my goodness. I know the guy that taught William Shatner

how to fly a paramotor. Who's in this picture? I don't know who took the picture. I'm just wondering why William Shatner looks so goddamn good. I mean, that's a race. He's a, he's three or something. Yeah, he's 72 in this.

Oh, that explains it. I'm like, damn, he looks good. I thought Eric's three or something. Yeah, he's 72 in this Explains it. I'm like damn. He looks good. I thought Eric farewell had done some doctoring on this guy's face that guy on the left is Jeff going I know him and He's like big in the paramotor world like a safety advocate and he flies commercial jets Anyway, they made a series of DVDs about like how to fly paramotors safe and make good decisions, and they star William Shatner. That's cool. He's a bit of an icon. He had this moment in maybe the 80s, early 90s, where I think he didn't like that he became Captain Kirk, and that was kind of it. I mean, he was T.J. Hooker, and he did a few other little things. He was in this thing called the land of the spiders

It's black and white. He did a bunch of Shakespearean shit like back in the day He was he's a well-trained actor but he became Captain Kirk and I think that he made this statement about the Trek conventions and the the rabid fans Maybe the 80s where he said get a life you people need to get a life and it's like dude don't say that This is the cash cow that'll that'll you'll be 90 if you told him then like dude You'll be 93 and you'll still be captain fucking Kirk and you can make a living out of it He wouldn't believe you but that's what he was

He became captain Kirk and every now and then he cashes in on it He did a video game commercial like a decade ago And he's sitting on the couch playing He did a video game commercial like a decade ago and he's sitting on the couch playing the Star Trek video game with the Gorn. The Gorn is in the seat next to him. It's a man wearing a terrible rubber Gorn costume. It looks like the original costume. Which is to say it looks bad. Terrible and they and whoever loses gets mad about it and they stand up and he's like you want a piece me? And they have the old school fight and like slow motion with the double fist. Like, yeah, this was a really popular punch.

As a six year old, I thought this would be a more effective fighting technique. Not at all. Like hold your own fingers, hurt your fingers. I don't think I've ever done it. I just learned from TV. I know. He was in a lawyer movie or TV show series. I thought. Yeah, yeah.

Boston Legal. He was in that. Yes, I loved him in that. Okay, you're right. That was a big resurgence for his career. That was his second like gem in his crown, I bet if he looks back, cause he did a good job in that

and it went on for years and was successful with like a number of other people in it. Help me with the movie that had not movie TV show that had Alec Baldwin and Tina Fey 30 Rock 30 Rock I cannot stop calling it third rock from the Sun even though I know it's wrong Anyway, he to me was the same as Alec Baldwin in that kind of a you know, not the main actor But really important. And somehow his gravitas made the whole show better. He's what Danny DeVito is to always sunny.

Like it shattered it a great job in Boston Legal. No, yeah, I agree. I agree completely. I didn't watch too much of it. I think I had to Candice Bergman and maybe had that always space on his name. Doesn't matter. Anyway, good show. He looks ridiculous for his age,

despite the fact that he was fat his whole life. That's not usually a great predictor for longevity. Like that's why I think Clint Eastwood and Gene Hackman are peers not only in age, but their careers sort of rode side by side. They did a lot of stuff at the same time. And Hackman was always kind of schlubby and Clint Eastwood was always lifting weights.

And I just, I wonder if that has anything to do with your brain health later on. I'm sure. Yeah. I'm still bummed out about that Hackman thing. That's such a sad, dark story. Small sample size, but I look at Biden versus Trump. And I mean, if you try to look at them through a nonpartisan lens,

it's like Trump's brain does seem a little more on top of it than Biden's does for sure. Yeah. And there, that's the fat skinny comparison again, small sample. I know, but you get to hear Trump speak off the like seat of his pants enough that you can kind of get an insight, especially if he's asked enough questions. He said something the other day. He said, we don't want to get over our skis on this. I was like, I've never heard you use an analogy like that before.

But an idiom, an idiom, rather. Yeah. I've never heard him do that. And I was like, he is more with it than anybody gives him credit for. He seems like he's really on top of this topic every now now and then they'll ask him about something and he's like, huh? Oh my God, there was a reporter with an accent. An Indian guy. That's one of the funny, that might be an all-time Trump moment. It was some Indian guy. He had to have a guy who speaks English translate an Indian speaking English.

And so the Indian guy was like, so Mr. Trump, we are so very excited to partner with you on this trade agreement and to make sure that our countries together are working well. And then Trump's like waiting. And then some English guys like Mr. Trump, we're incredibly excited to begin on a endeavor into this trade agreement. And Trump's like, I can't understand what this guy's saying. Cause someone could, someone. Dude, it's hilarious. There's a YouTube video where these people are like Afghani or something like that.

And in the video, every time the Afghani guy talks, they put subtitles underneath it. And the guy in the video is like, this is bullshit. I, I speak very good. Why, why are there subtitles right here? I'm speaking English. Oh, I was picturing- Did we talk about Khabib getting removed from that flight because his English wasn't good enough?

I'm not sure if we talked about it. Yeah, yeah, he had the same thing. So Khabib's English is broken. It's plenty fine to have a conversation, but he's gonna miss the finer details. It's plenty fine to have a conversation, but he's going to miss the finer details. And there were some, they were like, they didn't think he spoke enough English, I guess, to be, to, to assist people in the emergency aisle. And they made him move and became a whole controversy. But his counterpart, Conor McGregor this week was of course in the Oval Office, inexplicably, uh, alongside President Trump. I love Boewe's reaction to this.

It's the same one I had. I was like- It's a rapist! I was like, what's that rapist doing in the Oval Office? I was like, oh my God, there's a rapist in the Oval Office. And Conor McGregor's there too. What's going on?

Okay. But like between Trump bringing Andrew Tate in and Conor McGregor in, I'm like, we're really pretty rape friendly, okay? Well, Tate wasn't in the Oval, was he? No, I thought I know, but I think that he, like the Trump administration, helped him get to America, yeah, yeah.

Fair, however, he's in the Oval Office and Trump's got his big map of the Gulf of America and he's like, renamed it the Gulf of America, did you see this, did you see? Very proud, and he's like, and Conor McGregor was perfect He's like he sort of like jumps back to like better appraise the photo He's like squares himself to the photo like like very quickly. He's like, oh Congratulations, mr. President. Oh your work ethic. It's inspiring. It's inspiring

yeah, he went on about the work ethic for a while. And I saw it through two lenses. One, I'm like, oh my God, glaze him some more. But two, that's exactly how you glaze Trump. That is it. I bet there wasn't a better thing to say that would ingratiate yourself with Trump. Then he addressed the news media,

Conor McGregor this is from the the podium in the briefing room about Ireland immigration illegal and otherwise and and his thoughts on all that in the world and everyone took notes as the Bare-knuckle fighter explained to them the intricacies of geopolitics and illegal illegal immigration and and culture and you know he's running for president he can try i don't know he's got hgh head he's got a big ranger mcgregor look at him he's got he's got strong hgh head his face has changed a lot i need to look at it again i bet they put him on it to heal his leg up and he just kept on riding it

He's like my head's getting so big. Oh Yeah Lately all got image here. There might be an even better one when he I saw a picture of him standing there addressing All right, put your head next to JD Vance to minimize your what you do Well, you know, I've actually I love JD Vance. I think it's good to have fat, round faced male representation. And the Trump looks, the Trumpster looks pretty good in this photo. I'm just going to say it.

And I think Connor always looks just athletic, powerful and pretty good, but he definitely has swollen the size of his skull. Yeah, he's got the HGH. I mean, of course he looks like fit and strong cause he's a professional fighter, but like that HGH head. That's what I saw that I was like this dude's still juicing it up. He's full too. Now look, I don't think it's as big as,

I think he's also very full right now. Obviously he's not overweight but this is more overweight than most people have seen him be. This is him, I'm sure he's probably got abs but he, he's not like retaining water. He's got an extra 10 pounds of like water weight on him. You know, he's, he's not as fat and chonky as he makes you retain water. Am I? Yeah, it does. Your muscles fill with glycogen. Am I right? I'm not sure. Probably. I think, yeah. Creatine makes you retain water. I think green tea does too Uh, so I think I'll write on that. I don't know about that about green tea I maybe in any case though, um, it was insane to see him there. Um, he is I I was he convicted of rape. It's rather important. Uh,

He was civilly convicted of rape He was civilly convicted of something and it Did they do it in a criminal court and it didn't pan out or did they never do a criminal court? I don't know and it's Ireland which makes the little I know about the law change even less. Yeah. Ask your barrister friend. He'll know. Yes, ask your local barrister.

Yeah, we're a little disconnected from Irish legalese but it's also seemed like there's been multiple accusations and he also, you know, I it's a bad look. Oh, I was listening. This is completely off topic. I know we're over four hours. We can probably wrap soon, but I was watching the two chains rap video birthday. You know the song, right?

Like birthday. It's your birthday. Bury me inside the Louis store. You like birthday it's your birthday bury me you saw the Louis store you know it's all right I probably anyway anyway look it up real good song watch the video yes yes I had it on my other monitor and I was listening to it or whatever was jamming out playing my boulders gate and I looked over and it's Kanye's part. Kanye comes on like halfway through. Kanye's riding a bicycle with four whores, two on each side, barely dressed, walking

beside him as he wraps. The bicycle is towing a small trailer on which is an enormous cake made of titties. Like just titties with big sticking out nipples all over, all rimming the edges, the top. The whole cake is titty themed and he's rapping about whores and stuff. And it's great. It's one of the most, and then there's a part later on where they have two sets of identical African twins, Taylor. Okay? I'm watching the titty cake right now. Wait till you get to the African twins.

At first I didn't notice they were twins, but they are. It's two sets of twins. And they got the ladies dancing on them in the backyard with like a midget drinking a 40. And then there's like a dirty Mexican man, Indian man who like breaks it down. It's an awesome music video. I don't think they do them like this anymore.

Last time I saw a music video, I think was that Nicki Minaj an a condo video That was just like this is from 20. This is from 2012. So that's awesome a good one. Oh, yeah There's a midget There's a midget. He's got 40 right? He's dancing around. I froze it on the picture him dancing with a 40. Yeah Yeah, it's having a good time. Your recall on this in space is incredible. Yeah, that's check that music video out if you're listening. You hear this, you've been with us for four hours and seven minutes at this point. It's time to end the evening with a little two chains.

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