Painkiller Already - PKA 754 W/ Richard Ryan: How Apple Car Play Is Stalking You

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKA 7-54 with published author Richard Ryan Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Lock and Load, Bluechew, our wonderful merchandise. And it's also brought to you by Richard's book. You know, we haven't solidified the sponsorship deal yet. I'm sure we'll hammer that out. Our enthusiasm is hanging by a thread. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:22 So how's the book going? It's fully published. What was the process? Well, I want to say thank you guys for the contribution. And I had to give you a shout out and the acknowledgments for that. Because our back and forth on the Bible verses and everything, You'll have to get it to figure out which one I ended up using. I'll send you a copy. Yeah. I'm actually at the studio. He's going to send us a link on where we can buy it. Turn around, spare play. Like what we did with the Log and Load guests where we're like, hey, we just changed the link. It's funny, man. I really thought about this. This whole because I don't want to just be one of those guys just writing a book and going around,
Starting point is 00:01:09 hey, buy my book and everything because I didn't do it for that. The other part of you is like, well, why not just give it away or make it 99 cents? I've been going back and forth on that and everything and it's funny. One of the processes that I had to go through in this whole kind of digital detoxing phase was introducing friction into my, I don't know, consumption and everything to set those boundaries and whatnot. And one of those is like really assessing if I really want something, am I willing to pay for it or am I willing to go get it?
Starting point is 00:01:45 Is there some type of physical barrier? I know in this day and age especially with a younger demographic they don't remember going to blockbuster video and Getting VHS is and having to physically rewind them and everything but you think about the tent poles of movies back in the day like maybe a Jurassic Park or Top Gun or Rambo going further back Star the day, like maybe a Jurassic Park or Top Gun or Rambo going further back, Star Wars and stuff like that. There were these events that pretty much everybody
Starting point is 00:02:11 in society kind of experienced in some way, shape or form. You could even say the radio too, right? Like there were cassette tapes and CDs and stuff like that, but there wasn't the instant kind of gratification component of your streaming and being able to access at any moments notice. When your song came on the radio that you hadn't heard in a while, you're like, Oh, my God, this is amazing. And it's kind of weird now to think about all the areas in life in which are frictionless. And there's been, you know, billions, if not trillions of dollars spent in and technological innovation to
Starting point is 00:02:45 reduce that friction be it Amazon with one click and stuff like that to make you spend your your money as quick and as easy and as frictionless as possible so for me that was kind of the back and forth and trying to figure it out so I'll probably do something here in the next week or two before I really start pushing the book because you guys are kind of like that first go round on it, everything I'll probably try to do like a 99 cent or something like that because if people really are wanting the summer to, to try to figure out ways to establish some type of boundaries in their life and their digital consumption, whatever it is. And again, I don't want to come across as somebody who's trying to grandstand here and say, I'm holier than owl, you know, trying to make you forsake all your digital consumption and everything. It's really for me, as I've gotten older, I've realized by taking and really being a big data guy and looking at screen time on laptop and on my phone and everything and
Starting point is 00:03:43 extrapolating that out over longer periods of time. I'm like, oh shit, I've kind of burned a lot of my life in these things. And I don't really get that much value from, yeah, I do get to keep in touch like Instagram. Like I found in the process, I like sending DMs to friends and stuff like that, be it memes and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It's a good way for us to communicate, but I don't need to doom scroll. I don't need to get on X and then like realize that three hours have gone by in my life. You know, like. Are we promoting a book that gets people to stop watching the show? No, no, no, actually.
Starting point is 00:04:16 So, and that's the thing I said. You can do it outside now. That's the thing that I really want to be clear about is like you find the things that provide value in your life. And so hopefully you know, these conversations that you guys have with guests and stuff like that either provide some type of information or entertainment that people, you know, going to work and stuff like that they find that value in. But there's a big difference between that and, you know, algorithmically waiting watch time on platform so that videos are intentionally made 15 minutes long instead of 3 minutes worth of value. It's really trying to figure out those things in your life that are really sucking that away.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Because I think a lot of people hear that if you're not paying for it, you are the product. And I don't think a whole lot of people out there really internalize what that means, like what the attention economy means when you have an advertising company or a brand over here and a social media platform over here. And their whole goal is to keep you on this thing and as long as they can to serve you as many ads as possible. And everyone seems to think that they're the exception
Starting point is 00:05:28 to the rule. Well, I'm cognitively, I'm not weak. I can, I know when I'm being manipulated and stuff like that, but the fact of the matter is that the content in and of itself, like what's really cool in having this conversation with you guys is because you're all OGs. And so you can really appreciate the evolution
Starting point is 00:05:49 of the platform like YouTube, especially like Kyle, you know, like in the book I talk about pre 2012 with a real big shift happened, the redesign on YouTube where it went from a lot of independent creators overnight, Vivo and everything else, and that recommended home page experience and just how much influence the platform has in being able to be a kingmaker in a lot of different ways, as well as algorithmically hijacking certain things. I had a reply girl channel most people didn't know about
Starting point is 00:06:25 back in the day because I'm very much a student of a lot of these different things. I like experimenting with different things, much like I have in artificial intelligence and blockchain and stuff like that. I had a Reply Girl channel back in the day where I would take really busty woman mannequins and I would do the annoying orange garbage mask
Starting point is 00:06:47 around my mouth and I would do voices for the girls. And I would go on Google search trends and I would figure out which videos were gonna have a higher probability of being on the YouTube homepage. And I would do a reply to them because the click through rate weight on search and related was so high algorithmically.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And then you saw this whole kind of world of reply girls. And for me, I was like, okay, are they like ripping like my videos and like seeing which one? So I even did tests on that. So I took some videos and I remember the videos exactly what they were too. It was the BMW car, invisible car, whatever where they had cameras on the car
Starting point is 00:07:36 that projected the other side of it. So it looked invisible and it looked like that had the probability to trend, but it didn't. It wasn't getting any traction. And so I did a reply to that just to see if they would copy in it. Sure enough, they did. So it was really cool like doing these experiments
Starting point is 00:07:51 just to see algorithmically the different weights that different platforms would put on different products. What is it? I think the new frontier is these AI videos. So you get, what's the new Google one called? It's like GEO or VO or something for three? Yeah. Buy that thing, it's 250 bucks a month, rent it.
Starting point is 00:08:10 You can make infinite eight second clips and you can create trailers for all the hottest movies. But what you do is you do like Back to the Future 4, or you do Terminator 3, but this time it's like a good Terminator 3. It's Arnold and old Sarah Connor. You do Alien. Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But yeah, the Redneck trailer. Breaking news. And then you do like hit herring. You do all their names signed on Game of Thrones reboot. And then it's just, you can create that and just farm millions and millions of views. So that's one of the things. And we can get, I mean, we have plenty of time
Starting point is 00:08:45 to get into the nitty gritty of it. But so for the last two years, when Stable Diffusion XL came out, I started a couple hundred social media accounts varying from in ethnicity, sex, age, all these different things, and trying to create as hyper-realistic images as possible with the illusion that they were real people. And over the last year or so, they've gotten a lot of traction,
Starting point is 00:09:17 some of them hundreds of thousands of followers. And the idea was not to create something that was too provocative, where it would be obvious that they were somebody creating AI stuff. They're meant to be really tame, like girl next door or something like that, just somebody living their life. But we're able to keep up with the frequency
Starting point is 00:09:37 of all the need for posting regularly in stories and your feed and stuff like that. And now they've got a whole lot of traction. So it brings me to this other different thing where I'm sampling the AI detection systems on the different platforms and trying to figure out, okay, you have Flux, StableDiffusion, ChatGBT, and all these other different ones with Sora
Starting point is 00:10:00 that you're able to create images or video. What tools are they incorporating for watermarking or allowing platforms to know that it was created on their service so that they're able to throttle or detect in some way, shape or form fake news or whatever it is. What percentage of the accounts you made did get caught in like a sweep where it was like,
Starting point is 00:10:24 oh, clearly AI banned. Um, that's tough because there's, there's a number of variables that it's hard to take an account for, because that was another reason for not going provocative with a lot of them was that you don't want people to flag it, uh, because flagging will escalate whatever that is. But right now your obvious ones, I think there is definitely something to be said. And it's probably because open AI stuff's
Starting point is 00:10:52 not as photorealistic as some of the other ones like flux is a really good diffusion model for images and stuff like that. But Pika with video and there's so many out there. The evolution of this though, and inevitably, like the, you know, I'm a big individual rights absolutist, and it's just kind of interesting going from that hardcore libertarian perspective of, you know, capitalism and everything to the last few years, I feel like we're getting close to the point where you, you could break capitalism with a handful of companies that just, as an
Starting point is 00:11:27 example, OpenAI and some of these other companies are under legal scrutiny for scraping the known internet to train their models. And so we need to have these conversations about if a company takes and creates a product that leverages user either with their consent or not, but uses their information, their IP or whatever against them, what happens when you start displacing those people in their jobs based off of training the product with their information? It's like that it's kind of screwed up. And so- It's probably not a good answer to that yet.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Like tamp down on the AI companies. Well, so when you get into the humanoid robotics component, be it with figure or optimist and stuff like that, if you're able to take and leverage a workers, I guess technically it's not their IP, but it could be if they're using these things. We have to have these real conversations about, is Google a monopoly?
Starting point is 00:12:32 I think for most people, executives and stuff like, oh no, or politicians, no, they're not. Every consumer you're like, fuck yeah, they're a monopoly. They have the number one and the number two search engine out there, Google search and then YouTube. And when you look at things that you know, I'm very passionate had
Starting point is 00:12:50 I had I had a little bit more notice I would have been I would have had a free FPS Russia shirt on today or something because I feel like you know, there's there's certain there's certain you'd sell this, right? There's there's some should sell those. Right? There's some issues with platforms taking a political stand for something that is an individual's right, especially within the US, be it constitutional right to free speech or right to bear arms. If COVID showed us anything in the suppression of someone's voice or through algorithmic whatever to firearms and not allowing content creators
Starting point is 00:13:33 to monetize it, you de-weight those algorithmically in search and you make them taboo from a society perspective and it has an impact, I think long-, on the youth and what's acceptable, growing up and everything. So for me, there, I felt, I felt compelled, like, if I were to look back and some of these thought exercises that I do in the book were meant to make me, I don't know, question things, maybe a future version of myself. You know, what would I do differently if I had the ability to be in the now? Because you have all these old people in life that are willing to spend, you know, thousands, if not millions
Starting point is 00:14:17 of dollars to try to reverse the clock. And like, you know, what would you, you know, give to be, you know, 25 years old or, you know, if you're 80 years old, what would you, you know, give to be, you know, 25 years old or, you know, if you're 80 years old, what would you give to be 30 years old? Like that one guy who like uses his son as a blood boy. Oh, Brian Johnson. Yeah. Something weird about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:35 No, that's totally fine. That's totally fine. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure the son's offering the blood for free. Like it's, you know, he loves his son. Yeah. He's draining him all the time. I think they were, I think they're, you know, getting clicks and headlines for that.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And I think he's backed off on some of that stuff too. Some of the stuff. He started looking vampiric. He admitted that like, I think I'm actually aging myself with all the vampire shit. I like the idea of sleeping in the hyperbaric chamber. That just makes sense. Yeah. I mean, oxygen's great. I mean, historically speaking, you look at the- Don't wake up drunk and try to light a smoke though. That'd be a rough one. That makes sense, but, and I mean, maybe even, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:17 injecting your son's blood plasma makes sense, but that's just a weird dude. They track each other's fucking erections and post the results on Twitter. And it's like, I don'tctions and post the results on Twitter. It's like, I don't even know when my dad's hard. Well, it's like owner data.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I'm in the top 2% of 19 year olds and it's like, what, do you have a warehouse full of 19 year old hard dicks you're testing? Let's talk about the warehouse. There is no warehouse. One warehouse. It's funny. My blood boy. I'm lightheaded. A lot of these things that I ended up going through in these kind of process in this existential crisis that I had and trying to figure stuff out. Fortunately, for most people, a lot of it's free. And one of the questions I pose is, you know, And one of the questions I pose is,
Starting point is 00:16:09 what do you think one of the most researched statistics out there is? That's fairly obvious in hindsight, but it's the placebo effect, because it has to be factored in in most studies, right? And it goes to show you your brain's ability to impact things in a meaningful way on your body and its physical state. So I actually, you know, people, a lot of the people who have the whoop sponsors out there are going to hate this and everything, but I canceled my
Starting point is 00:16:38 whoop membership after like seven years. Well, it's a it's a fitness tracker. And, you know, I kind of understand now that the things that move my fitness and my health, like hydration and stuff like that. But the, but the placebo effect is real, and it's strong. So for me, I don't need a bunch of data in my life, in my face, day to day impacting. Oh, should I drank last night. Yeah, I know I drank last night. Yeah, I should probably drink a little more water today and get some sleep. I don't need to see that I'm in the red. And then the rest of my day is like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:14 I need to take it easy. No, like, just gut check myself and everything. I like a smartwatch that tracks, you know, basic shit, but I have to hydrate it. Like I got my hydration on point. If I drink a beer, it's cause I wanted a beer, you piece of shit. Yeah. And the worst thing I can imagine. I don't need that in my life. A watch nagging me because it's like, do you really need another chicken wing? Like, yes, I'm taking this off. You don't have to know. Maybe a light beer.
Starting point is 00:17:44 So the, the, for me, like the the the premise, I'll just show you guys because I just got these in today. That's the that's the book. But it's a play on the adage that it's it's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener on a battlefield. And the the garden really being said that was that whose quote is that? I think that is unattributed. That sounds like a sun zoo one. I was going to guess that too. Yeah. I don't, I don't know of all the ancient Chinese, you know, masters of war.
Starting point is 00:18:16 He was just kind of the one I serendipitously landed on. We're flowing. There's a ton of really good ones. A ton of really good ones. I couldn't find all the only one is a ton of really good ones. A ton of really good ones I couldn't find. Only one is a good publicist. Yeah, Jinghua, Master Bing. Captain Lee. Captain Lee, Lieutenant. Musashi.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Ping. G-Fong. Okay. Zach says it's Musashi. Ah, very nice. I like, he's got such a cool fucking story. I watched this YouTube documentary that was like four hours long about Miyamoto Musashi in the conquered Japan made it took it under one flag at first
Starting point is 00:18:54 I thought Kyle was just pretending to know ancient Asian warlords like Taylor and I badass Was an actual badass. Yeah. Hmm, yeah, that seems pretty cool. Another one I like. Wait, is he the one that won the duel with the wooden sword? Says he was undefeated in the 62 duels.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Okay, this is a different guy than the guy I thought it was, but I also know this guy. This guy would do the kind of stuff that you see in samurai movies. He'd like go into a town and be challenged by some punk from the local samurai training school. And he'd be like, I don't really want that heat. And they're like, no, honor demands.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And he fucking killed him. And all of a sudden, like the next best guy from the school would show up and be like, you gotta fight me now. And he's like, you know what, where's your school? I'll just go there. And he'll kill them all. They'll go to their school
Starting point is 00:19:42 and defeat anyone who will fight him. They'll set up ambushes. He had he was notorious for showing up late to make his opponents mad. They would be very honorable, honorable type combat. When you're a samurai is coming to fight another samurai. The seconds are waiting. You're sitting there meditating under a fucking tree. And he's six hours late.
Starting point is 00:20:00 This guy's got CP time. And then when he shows up, they're furious and it throws them off balance, fucking cuts them in half. Well, and everybody started to understand that. So they kind of got one step ahead of him. But no, he's two steps ahead. The next the next time he's got a challenge, he's seven hours late, early, early this time, he said seven hours early climbs up in a tree and he's watching. He's like, some other fuckers don't want to fight. They're setting up an ambush. It just jumps out of a tree and he's watching. He's like, these motherfuckers don't wanna fight. They're setting up an ambush. And he just jumps out of the tree and kills them all.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He gets challenged by like, he was six feet tall by the way, in like, I don't know, 1200 Japan, which is a giant among men. He gets challenged by this, by another actual big guy. Finally, a heavyweight has challenged him. Come to this island. We're waiting pussy and say all
Starting point is 00:20:45 right i'll be at the island at noon well six or seven p.m rolls around and here comes miyamoto masashi's boat being rowed by another guy he spent the time sailing over carving one of the boat oars into a handmade sword that's enormous because his opponent has a special fighting style he doesn't use a katana. He uses a big katana I don't remember the name for it because I'm not great. Katana is a great katana. Sure Yes, who handed katana and everybody knows this guy has he's got extra reach with it His fighting style is built around the heavy extra reach he's built for that sword and Miyamoto Masashi shows up and they
Starting point is 00:21:21 They converge on each other sprint up first The other guy throws his scabbard into the ocean in here in a rage because Miyamoto Masashi shows up and they converge on each other, sprint up. First the other guy throws his scabbard into the ocean in a rage because Miyamoto Masashi is so late, cursing his name for being dishonorable, showing up late to this honorable traditional battle. His seconds are over there, they're mad too. How dare you show up late? My master's been waiting. We've been waiting.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And he throws the scabbard in his court. And Masashi says something like a samurai who discards his his scabbard doesn't attend to ever to ever see the sword you've lost already. And so they they bust each other and in one motion they both swing Musashi's headband is sliced off because the sword blade almost hits his head. He conks the other guy in the head so hard he kills him with the wooden fucking sword one strike dead Everybody's pissed off. They're on an island He got looks at the fisherman that like paddled him over and he's like, let's get the fuck out of here
Starting point is 00:22:15 Hops in the boat and leaves he he never lost a fight. I think he died of old age Well 61, you know, so now it not amazing. But is it true? Because I might steal these stories as my own. It is true. It is the tale of Woody the Great. I want somebody to take AI, like go to Pika or Sora and just take and make that entire clip for Kyle and post it to social media. Yes, I want to see the battle with the oars.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Some of that does seem like more of a blessing than a real story. Use Woody's face, Woody's giving consent to use his likeness and make Woody as a samurai go through that entire story. Yeah, give him the eyes. Give him the eyes too. Yeah, that seems almost more like a teaching
Starting point is 00:23:06 or like a parable. Like I would believe you if you said it was true, but it's like how many times can you fool someone by showing up either six hours later. You didn't have the internet. Okay, every time you did a thing like that in those times, everybody's minds were blown because nobody ever seen it.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Like information didn't propagate and he'd usually kill the people he did it to. So he was just that he seems so close to just being a bully, just going around fucking people up being like, I defy you. I just killed your strongest swordsman. And they're like, all right, what do we do next? Send the second strongest guy out. This is like a reverse video game. You're going to get fucked up even worse than that other guy. He was a Ronin. He was a samurai without a master.
Starting point is 00:23:50 He is a stepfather was abusive, kicked him out when he was like 12. He won his first duel at like 12 or 13. Like he killed a man with a sword in a 12 or 13. No, Ronin is a, is a masterless samurai. Interesting. I didn't know that that's sort of a freelance freelance dates back to Knights without masters who are a freelance They you know, his primary weapon is the lance. So it's up for bidding to the high-flying. Yeah Yeah, well
Starting point is 00:24:17 RIP to mishashi I'm trying to get another banger for you is time is the only currency that you spin without ever knowing your balance. Oh, very true. But not be perfect. Good. That is my favorite.
Starting point is 00:24:32 That one is Voltaire. I prefer it being an Asian guy for some reason. I want to I want that some of that that wisdom of the Orient. That's just your anti-French. So good. Oh, so good. They even made me more Asian. Heard him at the piano Reeves.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Those outfits made me look fat. Do something about it. Better armor, light armor next time. There's going to be a full-on like series of videos of Woody going on this journey. I'm trying to look just out of the corner of my eye, learn more about this guy, but there's this is, you know, sometimes you go to a Wikipedia page for someone and you're like, damn, I thought this person did more. And then other times the opposite, like this is what I would in my head I'd be like yeah this is a nice two paragraph wiki no there's pages about this guy so maybe there's the opposite of Henry Parker he over delivers. When was the time frame?
Starting point is 00:25:37 He 15 late 1500s to 1584 to 1645 was his lifespan. Nice. It does not say his height on here, but if you were six foot in Japan, that's big in Japan now. Yes, it would be big in Japan now. Yeah, I've always read six feet about him. And that was, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:01 a lot of the great leaders when you look back, it's like, whoa, he was six two. I think Washington was six two, like George Washington. Washington was a big boy, but then other times you'll look it up and be like Really Stalin was that little of a fella? Yeah Right, so you know he's he's airbrushing himself taller like it's so funny He was doing a lot of gandalf the gray angles in those In front of people yeah, he the, the OG of airbrushing. They would like literally paint people out of photographs with paint, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:30 like, like he would be standing there with three people and like over the years, like, like three years later, these, these were his three, like guys, his close inner circle, but then I killed that one. So they just paint him out. Then they see the next production of the photo. I killed this one now. So paint him out by the end see the next production of the photo. They killed this one now, so paint him out. By the end, he's standing there alone. Yeah, just take a new picture at that point. Just him with his arms around nobody,
Starting point is 00:26:50 like smiling on the beach. Everybody's killed everybody around. Yeah, they're like overlooking a river. And they still, he loved, he must've loved that picture so much. He's like, no, we're not taking a fresh one. He was very pockmarked. He had smallpox as a kid and almost died from it.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And so he was terribly scarred in the face. Oh, that's, you've probably never seen a photo of what Stalin actually looked like, like his face texture, you know, right. That says he was five five or five. So I don't know. Kim Jong. Um, I think it's Kim Jong ill no, or ill song. Like the grandfather, the one before ill, um, he had a enormous tumor on the back of his head, like kind of off center, like kind of behind one of his ears.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And it was like a crime punishable by death to photograph that huge lump on the back of his head. They net, there are very few photos of that thing. It's gross though. It looks like some Lord of the Rings, Mordor ship grew on. It seems like it'd be easy to fix a tumor on the outside of your skull Yeah, you just fly to france like get it done. But but I don't know. I know that he had it I don't know if you ever got it taken off Yeah, I have seen the picture of him with some american diplomat where I guess an american photographer in the memo. Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:02 It's got a big and the hair isn't even growing on it that could have helped trout it he shaved it bad luck Yeah, he likes to rub it for good luck You'd be playing dice with this guy you fucking What was the thing from total recall the thing that they had coming out there yeah guados had coming out there. Yeah. Quaddas. Yeah, that's what he had back of his neck. Yeah. But I that's so awesome to be so powerful that you're like, no one can notice I'm ugly. No one.
Starting point is 00:28:39 They can't notice it. And if they do, they dare not speak it until the end. Were you about to say the dear leader Taylor has gained some weight? No, you weren't. Face the wall. I'm svelte as ever. I'm forcing, I'm not having friends removed like Stalin. I'm having like my head photoshopped on Arnold's body. It's really bad Photoshop because my empire is not very technologically advanced, but I'm, you know, I'm an iron fist ruler. Well, they also incentivize you to rap, right? So like if anybody anybody says anything they incentivize people to tell on other people The big thing is the collective punishment, you know If I escaped the border to China they imprisoned slash kill my whole family like two generations up and two generations down Like they get everybody they round them all up and send them to one of those disappear camps
Starting point is 00:29:23 They've got which might have better food. I don't know that that place seems super scary. The fact that they're a nuclear power. I saw him the other day christening at their new destroyer and the 100 ton destroyer but but the problem was when they launched it they had to launch it sideways and you've probably seen boats get launched out of dry dock and they they do that scary splash and then they write themselves. This one just drug its side along the ground, ripping its hole open and then stayed on its side in the shallow water. If you look at the sad images, they covered the whole thing up with blue plastic.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Kim is calling it criminal negligence and saying people are going to pay. Yeah. I bet the guy in charge of pushing that in the water is already dead. Yeah, it's a big boat. That's wild. I don't know. That's embarrassing. Like you know how excited he was about that ship.
Starting point is 00:30:17 There were pyrotechnics and fireworks. Like there was like red carpet. He was up all night. He was so excited. Cool. It looked like an American battleship. Like I saw pictures of it in the water. It's modern on its side.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Say that again. It looks modern. Yeah, it looks, well, I just expected a North Korean Naval ship to be like a converted fishing ship, some cargo ship or like, like it looked a little dated. No, it's like they had an artist
Starting point is 00:30:44 build a non-functional battleship that looked like one of ours and then it immediately sank. I think their subs are all diesel subs. I think their subs are the green subs because of the algae in that area. What do you mean by green subs? They paint them green. Oh, oh. They're not like the environment. Yeah. There's the worst algae. Like it's obviously saltwater, huh? Some sort of yeah, something like our plankton or whatever, not
Starting point is 00:31:17 probably not algae, probably some sort of phytoplankton or something that makes the water in that area green. And so they paint them green. Look at that. Oh, interesting. Huh. Okay. So they're like generations behind on subs. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I mean, we're falling behind in subs. Like, are we? We need more. We're behind in the Navy at this point with like tons of ships in the water, I think. I mean, not total, but like China has way, way more dry dock capacity than we do. If there was a conflict and they sunk, if there was a sustained war, it might look ugly right now.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I don't know about Trump's military budget spending. I know he's wanting a ton. He's wanting a ton of money spent. I just don't know if it's spent in the right places for the second half of the 21st century I don't know what the right place like it drone warfare I feel like is gonna be a big one both defensive and offensive like Drone deterrence doing something about the carbon or the fiber optic drones, you know There's nothing for that other than kinetic systems, right?
Starting point is 00:32:22 The jamming doesn't work There's a microwave system that maybe Israel or France has that seems like it would work. But Andrew has some EMP stuff that they've some focused EMP stuff that they're I don't remember what country it was in World War Two, or maybe it was World War One. Like maybe the Polish had like a cavalry charge at Germans or something like that in World War Two, or maybe it was World War One. Like maybe the Polish had like a cavalry charge at Germans or something like that in World War One. And it was like, yeah, a definitive moment where it was like, Oh, this is over. Like, this isn't, this isn't what we do anymore. This has
Starting point is 00:32:57 our thing we've been doing for centuries, for millennia. No horses, you're getting retired. Do you think that can happen with like modern Navy fights? Like next time we have a big global fight, do we like send out a bunch of proud destroyers only to watch a bunch of drones, destroy them and be like, okay, well, we've all right. We've all leveled up past that part of the tech tree. It's time to find the new thing.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Everyone tells me I'm wrong on that. I had this idea that death stars are bad, swarms are good, right? And America's so proud of its death stars, whether they be aircraft carriers, I know they're a little swarmy, but work with me, or whatever it is. Like we're not doing cheap swarm stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:37 We do F-35s. And I'm just not sure it's the right direction. But what do I know? No, I mean, at least we're having a conversation, right? I think the big concern was really brought to light with the Houthis when they would shoot like a rocket that cost a few thousand, if not tens of thousands of dollars. And then our response would be a multimillion dollar
Starting point is 00:34:00 Tomahawk cruise missile. And when you're spending that much money on these different things, like you say, your destroyers, your Death Stars become big targets. So if you're able to use like an inexpensive swarm tech, the big value proposition at this point that I don't think a lot of people will, well, maybe some are, but cybercoms probably,
Starting point is 00:34:23 more so than anything is, um, you know, the vulnerabilities around, um, well, code, um, so much of our life is connected in so many different ways. I mean, fucking mattress has a software subscription, right? Like every, everything has a software component to it, devices and stuff like that. That's why I honestly if if and again, I'm still trying to figure out this whole book thing. The first one really, more so than anything is meant to kind of help individuals. Because I think a lot of our mutual friends focus on their fitness firearms proficiency and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:35:03 But a lot of people aren't thinking about the cognitive atrophy and manipulation that's going on out there. And so if you can kind of shore up these vulnerabilities, have at it, I think more people should have those conversations. But the next thing, if I were to do something, would probably be around cyber warfare and the individual's responsibilities
Starting point is 00:35:22 around shoring up vulnerabilities within their homes and the things that they do. Like a good example would be a VLAN. Most people hear VPNs and stuff like that. And while it is great to encrypt your information through your internet service provider and stuff like that, for whatever reasons, I think that when your Roomba, your dishwasher, all these other different things manufactured and who knows where has some type of code
Starting point is 00:35:51 running on your network, having it like the exploit here recently on Bluetooth and AirDrop on the iPhone and potential warming capabilities and being able to infect everybody on the entire network. It's like, it's pretty insane. It's pretty, pretty scary. You lose internet and then you can't change your thermostat settings. It's wild. It's wild. Well, this is added a failure point that kind of just makes this more annoying than it was. But there's so much information out there. There's so much information out there. And
Starting point is 00:36:24 again, like I don't want to beat the dead horse about the book, but like, you know, I'm standing on shoulders of giants and the research that did like Dr. Anna Lemke around the dopaminergic system and stuff like that. You know, all these people, these researchers who did studies on alcoholism to pornography to gambling and stuff like that, the average person doesn't have time to distill all that information down to find the signal and the noise and I'd argue Technology is arguably way more complicated Orders of magnitude in so many different ways like the average person when you tell them about setting up a VLAN on their home Network their eyes just gloss over so there's there's a lot of things out there
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yep, the coin most people don't even intrinsically like see a value in it because they haven't, you know, they're busy paying bills and day to day stuff. And so it hasn't even entered their mind. Like when they're doom scrolling, they're just like, they get to the point that it's like boring on social media, on Instagram or Twitter. And then they're like, I guess that's enough for the day. They don't really think about it. That's really frustrating, really frustrating for me, because I totally understand it. I hear that argument so many times when it comes to people, when it comes to privacy, speech and so many different things. But the really frustrating thing is when it comes from somebody in the 2A community who is staunch.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You know, they're very opinionated about, you know, like we have to protect the right to bear arms, like we're not given an inch and, you know, on any of this, but then they'll go give all of their data to people for free, they'll sign up for everything because they're trading convenience or trading security for convenience. And it's like, well, no, like, if you really,
Starting point is 00:38:02 if you really feel that about an individual's rights, you should figure out what these other things are that you're giving up from a security standpoint for convenience. And I think that's, you know, the conversations a lot more people should have as we edge into this artificial intelligence and humanoid robotic world that's coming. Yeah, it's gonna me more cognizant. I can tell when I've been doing scrolling because I get served, or at least if I scroll Twitter too long,
Starting point is 00:38:32 all my entire feed just becomes like the least helpful life hacks you could imagine. Like what? From like the third world where it's like, it's some guy in India sitting there with like a rusty pipe and then like a plastic bottle. And it's like an AI voice commentating where it's like, use the bottle on the blade, pull quick.
Starting point is 00:38:56 It will create a useful string that can be used for tasks. Use this next time you are in need of twine or like just like some stupid thing and it's like it just I saw like a guy who was like trying to give a tip on how to put a new outlet in in a wall except it was like clearly unlike the side of a burnt-out building in like South Sudan and so like the wall itself is shattered there's no interconnectivity and it's like use a board to ensure right angles,
Starting point is 00:39:26 perpendicular to walls. And like, it doesn't quite make sense what they're saying. And it's not helpful at all. And I like, watch a couple minutes of that and be like, I can't believe I just spent two minutes of my life just watching this, but I'm watching it just baffled, like indignant. And like, this is content.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Who are the 40,000 people who liked this? There must be more bots than ever on social media. That's how I distinguish good content from bad. It's not the length or the amount of time that you've wasted, it's whether you regret wasting it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It can be fun to watch stupid nonsense, but
Starting point is 00:40:05 you can go through the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy busts at 14 hours. Maybe. Is that a good estimate? Like nine, nine, nine and a half or so. Are you watching the extended edition? Extended edition, probably 10 and a half. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. But you can watch that and be like, that was amazing. This was the best day I've had. I've never been more high and hungry
Starting point is 00:40:28 and enjoying this content. Or you could doom scroll for that 10 and a half hours and be like, I ruined my day. I wish I could try again. Yeah, you'll just sometimes see things, especially like war footage or just like generally negative divisive things that don't have anything to do with you directly. And it's like, oh man, was it healthy for me to like just mindlessly
Starting point is 00:40:51 scroll past like two people exploding and then like seeing a hockey highlight and then seeing like someone calling for violence openly about some political shit. And then some guy in Bangladesh teaching me how to, that if I want to use soap in the wilderness, I don't just take off soap shavings. I remove everything in a syringe, so it's just the plastic tube, and then I insert it through the whole bar of soap so that it creates a tube of soap,
Starting point is 00:41:20 and then I cut that into small things. That's a literal life hack one I saw from Africa. It didn't make any sense. It was like, even the comments on that one were like, you already had the soap, man. Like, what are you doing here? What you're describing is DIY. That's a whole subreddit and a whole category of fun brain ride. It's DIY. They do something. they go through this whole rigmarole of like ruining everything and making it extra complicated. And in the end it was like, or just buy a glass or just buy a cup.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Or you know. If people aren't familiar with this, DIY is D-I-W-H-Y. Like why would you do this? And like Kyle said, it's just terrible things. Often involving a lot of glue guns that just make garbage crafts. It's like 3D printers. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah, they use glue guns, 3D printers, or they just put together popsicle sticks and papers and shit. And at the end you're like, oh, this is just garbage. This is the worst thing I've ever seen on a coaster I've ever seen. Well, yeah, they do it with cinema stuff too, right?
Starting point is 00:42:22 Guys will do behind the scenes of making a video and they like do this really elaborate like production and they're like using an iPhone to do it and they're like being pulled around on a skateboard and all this other stuff and it's raining and then they go and here's the final result and it's just them with a selfie cam on them and not actually filming something
Starting point is 00:42:42 and it's just their face the entire time. Like, I got duped. I saw one is like, I don't know, Thailand or something. And it was like use for old hangers. Many uses for old hangers include posture fix. And like it's a little kid sitting in a chair, like leaning, I guess, too far forward.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It seems like an appropriate amount for a child to lean forward to write. And then this adult just like takes the hook of a hanger and puts it in the loop that's on their back and then puts the other side of the hanger around the back of the chair. And so now like the child is like uncomfortably propped up. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like no effort at all. That was the life hack from this guy in Thailand. Use hanger to fix child posture and then very different Thailand videos. I take it back.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah. Life hack for Thailand. Pretend to be a girl. It had sex with my buddy. Richard was a leader in that field. He pretended to be a reply girl before trans was a thing. That's true. That's true. Yeah. It's pretty trans. A horrible female voice. Horrible. I'll be like, Hey guys, what's going on? Sexy woman. Ooh, maybe she's Eastern European. Nah, that's a dude. Fuck. I remember seeing those, uh, those in the sidebar of Kyle's videos often when I would watch like a Kyle shotgun video, the one suggested would be like a girl who looked like she was
Starting point is 00:44:14 being held at gunpoint. It couldn't have had less of an interest in what Kyle was doing, but just this gigantic beefy knockers almost nip out. And so I would almost always, they got me too. I'd, I'd finished a comedy on click over. I'd take a little look. I remember when Kyle was first going super viral, right? Like early FPS Russia. And he's like, dude, it's amazing. This is what happens. I get like one or 2 million views on this new video. But the second newest video
Starting point is 00:44:33 is getting like another 200,000 views. It got a boost because people liked my current one. And 200,000 views on a video back then as well. And I think that's the biggest thing. I think that's the biggest thing. I think that's the biggest thing. I think that's the biggest thing. I think that's the biggest thing. I think that's the biggest thing. I think that's the biggest thing. but the second newest video is getting like another 200,000 views. It got a boost because people liked my current one and 200,000 views on a video back then is worth like four or $500.
Starting point is 00:44:51 That's a good estimate we think. Yeah. And uh, so these reply girls were in a way trying to get that four or $500 when at least emotionally for me, that's rightfully Kyle's, that should have gone to Kyle's other banger video, getting a second life instead of some booby chick. But no, that's totally true. It's interesting. It gets a milkshake in the parking lot of my burger joint because it's hopping and I'm getting pissed.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And I tried to fuck her and that didn't work out either. So I was more pissed. I was like, notice you replied to me a lot. I got to say about that. And she didn't think that was funny. She didn't get the joke and it helped me. I am in Ukrainian shipping container. We got to go. They just live in Poland and fuck. Yeah, there was like, there was one from South America.
Starting point is 00:45:44 There was one that was American. Yeah, it's interesting because you see these. It's really funny. They're like the like Charlie James, 1975 or whatever. She was like the original fitness chick on the Internet, like like before Instagram had the thoughts out there and everything, she was the fitness person doing the for not provocative. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Like just perfect. Oh, insane. Insanely fit. And, uh, but all of her videos were extremely provocative and angles and stuff like that. Oh yeah. Um, and yeah. And then you think about like those reply girls and stuff like they kind of predated the only fans managers and stuff because they clearly had some type of management be it boyfriends or whatever because I found out relatively quick
Starting point is 00:46:34 and because I know they weren't sophisticated enough to do the types of Bot attacks that they were doing so they would they would do everything from flagging to dislikes and stuff like that. Oh, never got bought it. That's me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Do you guys remember Heat Check? I think that was his name. It's something close to that. The running guy, he made really, really bad videos. They were mostly yo mama jokes and not even remotely funny with animated in the background. However, he had this network that people opted into that he was able to control what those channels did. So he made a video and I can't overemphasize enough how
Starting point is 00:47:21 bad the videos were. They were never content that you would like willingly like go viral or like build a following, but he would be able to get thousands of favorites on his own videos by controlling this network of channels. And that would put him on the YouTube front page, which is a way to get there at the time. So everything he did got millions of views and it was all really low effort stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:42 He basically found a money printing machine until YouTube stopped it. Yeah, YouTube's really good about finding those outliers who are optimizing for very specific algorithmic exploits. Yeah, I think the click through rate was a good example. The favorite one's definitely one. For a period of time, there would be, I call them bot farms, but they would take iPhones
Starting point is 00:48:11 in various countries. And they would just stack up walls, and they would sync them together and everything because you wanted to get the unique identifiers from each device because that's the way YouTube was authenticating. That's another really fascinating thing that a lot of newer people aren't familiar with was the platform wars between Vine, Facebook, YouTube, and everything else. And a lot of people thought that YouTube would be one of the ones that would fall behind because they had such a rigorous authentication mechanism
Starting point is 00:48:48 in place for validating what a view was. Whereas Facebook, when they brought video to their feed, they had a very weak authentication mechanism. So if you would upload to YouTube, you might get say 200,000 views. You upload to Facebook, you get 20 say 200,000 views, you upload to Facebook, you get 20 million views. And the brands were like, Oh, wow, I got all these views. And like, no, there's no conversion. There's no retention or anything. Now, that's not to
Starting point is 00:49:16 say that Facebook ads is a completely different thing. It's probably changed the game and in so many different ways. So many different brands rely on that more than Google. But it was just an interesting observation seeing how they authenticated stuff. And YouTube to their credit has really, like their engineering team, if they do anything well, it's they find those outliers who are exploiting the system and they realign those weights and the algorithm for it. they realign those weights and the algorithm for it.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Have you seen this prompt video? It's using the Google VO. And the one I sent is like a big compilation of it, but the one I saw earlier, everyone in it is distressed. They're like, a prompt made me old and sick. Why couldn't you have asked me to be this happy? Why do you want this? And then it cuts to the next one and the guy's just like, why do you want me to suffer? Why couldn't you have put me somewhere good? And it's like, this seems real. This is so close to convincing.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Some of them you really can't tell. With vehicles, when I see vehicles that come out of this geo thing, I want to call it the right thing. I keep fucking it up. Vio. Yeah. The vehicle physics and like creation look real. It's like, okay, that's just a real car. It looks like movie. Oh yeah. Did you see how many people got fooled?
Starting point is 00:50:35 Like maybe today and yesterday, like on social media, people are getting, like I'd never seen an AI video where the majority of people were all in falling for it. It's like a fake video of a kangaroo at an airport. And it's like the whole like lead up is like, oh, this woman's emotional support kangaroo wasn't allowed at the airport. And like, it's a very good AI video. But if you kind of have a decent eye for it immediately, it's like, okay, this looks good, but this is obviously fake.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Their hands don't move correctly. I can't hear you. Oh, that's so fake. Yeah. Here it is. Here's the link. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is an, it's important to remember
Starting point is 00:51:17 that they're, every day it's getting better. And then also there's all the different ones. There's so many different AI video creators and photo creators. Whatever that is, is not one of the better ones. Now, when it's shown a little fuzzy like this in a small window, in a smaller window, may, but no, that's clearly not real.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's holding a boarding pass. A lot of people. I mean, if that doesn't get you to wake up, then. Dude, I'm not as good at this. I'm so boomer at this. Taylor's really good at it. And the contrast between he and I is concerning to me. Did you see the one by chance
Starting point is 00:51:55 of the girl getting street interviewed? Some guy asked her a question and she responds with a bunch of nonsense. She has so many fingers. I haven't seen that one. Oh, it shocks. I wish you had. If you can find the video Kyle.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Or what would I even search to find it? It fooled a ton of people. And one guy said that like, I guess there are people walking past the interview subject that never emerge on the other side and they caught that. But it's a pretty busy like nighttime street scene and it's easy to miss. And I was like, I wonder if Taylor sees this.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I don't know. I fall for these too much. And that's a good thing though. I like it. It's going to put- We're all gonna be falling for them. In a year, we'll be falling for them in a year. I saw Red Letter Media talking about exactly this today.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And they were talking about, you know, those infomercials you watch on standard TV where they'll be like call the law offices of J and J, the strong arm, J and J. And you've got like B roll of an old lady answering a phone or dialing a phone, you know, in the background, all those actors are out of, out of business. That whole production crew is out of business because if you just need like a little B roll of an old person dialing a number for your commercial or someone
Starting point is 00:53:01 happy, they just received a gift. Like you never need to hire a person again because AI does that masterfully. Yeah. Why would you need a stock actor to like, you know, hold his stomach for an antacid commercial? I want an AI generated RPG. I want the whole thing to be procedurally generated and I want all the characters to, to, to just be one of these, one of these voice models. If I could jump in when, when Zach plays the one I just linked, Taylor, tell me if you obviously spot this as AI.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I see it as just the audio is important. I see it as just a dumb woman. And I was- AI that makes haters go crazy every time. Oh, y'all gotta give them that. This is wild. It's over. We are cooked on that thread.
Starting point is 00:53:43 You get me? That's one move with AI that makes haters go wild. It's over. We are cooked on that thread. You get me? That's one move with AI that makes haters go crazy. The text in the back. This is something that when they fix it, it's gonna make it harder. The signs in the back don't make sense. The letter organization. I can't see them at all.
Starting point is 00:53:56 There's neon signs in the back where it's not creating a word. Oy-nay? Yeah. Oh, above her head. I'm looking to her for her shoulder. But that aside, that could have been like, you could have gone back and been like, oh, above her head. I'm looking to her or her shoulder. But, but that aside, that could have been like, you could have gone back and be like, Hey, make that sign actually say a thing
Starting point is 00:54:09 or you could just blur it a little bit. This is the thing I'm talking about. This is the VO three. This you can't tell. This is real good. This is it. And all you gotta do is put a little schmutz on the lens. All you gotta do is like,
Starting point is 00:54:21 like don't don't make it high quality in your face full screen 4k. Then you might see a little artifact here, a little motion. You know how like you go to your parents' house and they've got the cinema scope on their fucking TV and everybody moves around like it's a soap opera? Hey, let me fix this shit for you. What the fuck? It's not supposed to look like this.
Starting point is 00:54:40 What's Oppenheimer at like 90 frames per second or something over here? You must feel like you're there. But if you, if you do it the other way, if you go away from that and like the way Zach was presenting it, where we had like a short screen within a big screen of it, you can't tell looks real. It's real. Of course it does. And like I said, if I saw like, if it's a footage of like a SWAT team moving down
Starting point is 00:55:03 a foggy, darkened hallway looking looking for it and a terrorist could be around Any corner and you just need that clip of them like moving past the camera, you know, like that one little that that coverage shot AI it doesn't you won't be able to tell you cannot tell And the places that people like oh I could tell it's like yeah Because you know what Leonardo DiCaprio looks like and you know, he and you know he's not really making Titanic 2 The titanic 2 ones are hilarious. They've got like a RLM was talking about today they there's two different versions one of them is like The Caprio was frozen in ice when he fell in the ocean and they saw him out in modern times
Starting point is 00:55:44 And then the other one, what was it? Something similar, but you can tell with those. It's like, I know that's not the Caprio. My favorite song in the world right now, none of you have heard it. I'm listening to it 20 times a day. I listened to it on loop while I was playing Elden Ring. It's an absolute bop.
Starting point is 00:56:04 It's an AI song that I had made about how people in my chat can't get girlfriends and it fucking kills me. I can't get enough of it. Man, we'll be able, in the next 10 years, we'll be able to just think of a premise for a movie and be like, oh, that's a great premise. Make me a 90 minute feature
Starting point is 00:56:26 length film and include three twists. Surprise me. You can do that right now. No fewer than, than eight naked ladies. Eight seconds at a time. Yeah. You can do that. Right. You could, you go to chat GPT, you let it write the movie. You feed that into another thing. Let it storyboard the movie. And then you do storyboard after storyboard eight seconds at time with your $250 subscription
Starting point is 00:56:48 here. You make a 90 minute movie easy. It'll look weird. It'll look weird. It might not make a lot of sense. It'll make 100% sense. The conversation we're having now, like I would give an analogy, like don't want to be Debbie Downer, but like try to shift gears in some ways. It's like the same conversation that was being had
Starting point is 00:57:06 when YouTube came around, around 2006, 2007. People are so excited about the value proposition with this new thing, where you don't have to pay to upload your videos. They'll host it for free, right? So you can upload your own, you can go make your own Hollywood style movie and have free distribution on YouTube and everything. That's the the conversations that were being had. And
Starting point is 00:57:34 because you had free hosting and all this other stuff, it was exciting. Like you know people are you know building and but you're not thinking necessarily about the second, third, or consequences. By everyone putting their data into these various models, be it a diffusion model for images and video, or a language model for text and everything else, we're essentially picking winners in a lot of ways. And who these companies are gonna be the next Goliaths like Google, if not Google and Facebook and everything else. And so are the incentives aligned for the individual or for society in general,
Starting point is 00:58:21 or are they aligned in a way that's just meant to extract value in some way, shape or form? and what is that gonna be five ten years from now what are the what are the levers they're gonna be able to pull that could have a big impact on society that might not be the best for us I think we're going to a Blade Runner scenario I think that there's going to be a product in the next ten or twenty years and it's gonna be one word like like what it's gonna be called Sam and it's gonna be an word. Like what, it's gonna be called Sam. And it's gonna be an AI called Sam.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And you could buy the Sam robot and it looks like Sam and they'll probably pay some celebrity so that Tom Cruise is your butler for the rest of your life. You know, it'll be his face or something. But as soon as they integrate like a really good AI, I don't know if it needs to actually wake up and be sentient, let's hope not. But it'll be convincing enough. And then they couple that with one of those general dynamics. Is it general
Starting point is 00:59:09 dynamics or Boston dynamics? I keep Boston dynamics. You know, they're like 10 years ahead with them because those robots look cool. When I see those things doing backflips and like shimmy and shaking, it's like a real doll fleshy Thing over that and then gave it the brains of a good AI. I Just feel like Robo the future do when you say when you say it's over. What does that mean? It would allow for cyber. I think we're gonna have Robo butlers sucking our dicks I think we're gonna have a Robo butler s or a French maid You're gonna get be able to choose which one you want. There's going to be fucking Alfred, the fucking old man Butler.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yes, sir. And he's going to take you and your girlfriend's coat when you walk in. I get him. I'd make him suck my dick. I'll have dinner prepared. Our thing. But in a world in a world where humanoid Alfred's been eating your girlfriend's pussy. Master, please.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I've got 15 times today. It's not even getting off master. There's actually, there's a conversation around this right now. And, um, a lot of people are trying to suck you dick. Well, so at the point of which
Starting point is 01:00:19 humanoid and artificial intelligence, um, can, um, replace or replicate a human, it's gonna surpass it in a very short period of time. So if you're able to create a humanoid for less than what it costs to pay somebody, where are the human's roles? So if you work a job and get paid $50,000 a year, or you're an oil worker, you get paid $150,000 a year
Starting point is 01:00:43 to work in the field, but then they can build robots that are humanoid that can assimilate to those things, sit in chairs and move things, use machinery that's already made for those humans, and they can do it with an optimist that costs $30,000. Where is your role in the world? And then who ends up, well, who has a job in the future? Is this different than any other force multiplier.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I've been hearing this forever. I don't think it is. Yeah, because any type of machine out there in the past was singular focused in a lot of ways. Like the printing press as an example, it was focused on one thing that it did, one tool. But you're taking a language model that is parsing all of the known digital information with its predictive analysis through its neural net and everything.
Starting point is 01:01:37 And then if you have a humanoid, human-like function and you have cheap energy, then you have the ability to emulate any behavior that a human does. So what's the intrinsic value of somebody's behavior? If you're using the collective. You need a universal basic income at that point. You're almost post scarcity. The question is what fuels them?
Starting point is 01:02:01 Why do you get the electricity into your army of slave bots that are doing everything from picking strawberries to doing roofing to doing your most dangerous jobs, of course, any sort of mining or truck driving. You don't even need the bot. You can do it the bot in the truck. You don't need that whole technological leap forward with the automated trucks. You just put a robot man in a regular truck and and immediately there's no like Changing your fleet over there's no need for something in the roads like they always some sort of guiding path You've just got a bot who's a man for all sense and purposes He can do anything a man can't accept he doesn't require ten years of training two years of training one minute of training
Starting point is 01:02:42 He takes a microsecond of training. It's fast. There's no liability. Download. And well, there's gonna be a lot on the other side. It's wild. But force multipliers have happened since the beginning of time. Since the first spear fisherman was replaced
Starting point is 01:02:55 with a net fisherman, people have been getting more efficient. And where are all the spear fisherman is gonna find jobs? Well, they start building huts. They start doing other things. And back in the day, there were pink collar jobs, right? Cs of women who would type out things for their manager on the typewriters
Starting point is 01:03:09 and they all got replaced. Writing pools. Writing pools. Typing pools, printing press before that, internet after that. I get it, but they're singular. Like a net can't walk your dog. What could, if a humanoid robot could emulate
Starting point is 01:03:24 human behavior, what could they not do? But being singular or not doesn't change the underlying premise that it's just making people more productive than they were before. It's taking, you don't need the person. It's taking jobs that we used to do in a long drawn out way and getting them done fast and easy now. But that doesn't make people obsolete.
Starting point is 01:03:46 It never has before. And I keep hearing, oh, this time's different. I don't think so. But what we're talking about is one product. We're talking about a printing press that walks your dog, a printing press that roos your house, a printing press that gets your wife to come, a printing press that sews your new lawn,
Starting point is 01:04:00 that builds your new house, that demolishes the old one. It roos, it picks up the trash. It does literally every job. Sounds lovely, but I don't see why that's so different than five tools. Because there's no need, no man. There's no person. If you run a, your garbage company now is just management and whatever maintenance the bot requires. The only job left is bot maintenance and programming.
Starting point is 01:04:22 But if you- That gets taken away. That's exactly it. Why why can't that because the next step, that's the dilemma, the new Kyle bot, it fixes itself. You like hit the thing with a sledgehammer and it starts, oh, bad swing, sir. And it's fucking working on it. So you have to one that can work on the other. Sure. Yeah, if that happens, and what I like in that scenario,
Starting point is 01:04:47 I don't care, but we go to a universal basic income and we become a fucking utopia. That's the future, that's post-scarcity. Now we're just worried about how to get electricity into the bots and we need some solar or whatever, and super nuclear, we're gonna get a fusion tech or something like that because we need a lot of electricity. The flaw in universal basic income in that instance is if everyone gets the same amount
Starting point is 01:05:09 and then there's just a couple of companies that are extracting the value who are selling the services, they're the ones actually getting the value. So they're the ones who can afford the things and the others can't. So it's like you have to start talking about like, that's why I say we could potentially, in the future, break capitalism in a way where it's like, Oh, no, at some point where a company creates X amount of GDP, maybe they should be taxed on the jobs that they're costing. What would actually happen? What would happen is that one party would say, protect workers' rights, humans, not bots. And there would be a unionization where they wouldn't allow it to happen. And it would be a global thing. The CCP cannot force its
Starting point is 01:05:56 people not to work anymore. There would be riots there, too. The workers of the world would unite. And we would eventually write legislation that said we will only use bots for the most difficult jobs. They will be our vulcanologists. They'll be on deep sea miners. They will be rescue squads. They will be our military. But then people will offshore those jobs. They'll go to a country that they can do it for.
Starting point is 01:06:18 We'll bomb those countries. And it would be expensive. We'll just bomb them. That's exactly what we've did with Chinese labor for the last 20, 30 years. We'll disallow that. We'll find a way around it. We'll protect the worker.
Starting point is 01:06:28 But you say that, you say that. The people in China don't want bots either. But you say that, then what happens is as capitalism is structured right now or our democracy with lobbying and everything, those companies will offshore, they'll extract the value and they'll be able to lobby and use whatever AI systems on social media, algorithmic hijacking to convince people to vote for the things that are gonna tie the noose around their neck.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Well, let's hope that doesn't happen. That's a dark future where the corporations, well, that's Blade Runner. You're talking about Blade Runner. Well, it does seem likely. You got like a Weyland-Yutani type situation where the, I'm sorry. I interrupted. No, no, go ahead. I think, I think we should always err on the side of the rights of the
Starting point is 01:07:16 individual at all costs. Like, like B it's not saying, um, universal handouts or anything like that, but at least opportunities, whatever that is, like if somebody wants to work and they they're, they're going to create value that's the same as somebody else with a robot that's doing it for that, then so be it. I think there should be at least at least the opportunity for people to do that. But I think, as you can see, like, what would the jobs be? Like, I'm sorry to interrupt, I'm just I'm thinking out loud and again see, like what would the jobs be?
Starting point is 01:07:45 Like I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm just I'm thinking out loud and again, like what would the job other than robot maintenance and like doing custom decals for people's robots and like accessories. It's already better than robots aren't trained on. They're already better at diagnostic medicine in many cases. You know, the way they can read MRIs and scans
Starting point is 01:08:04 and detect cancers earlier than a doctor can. I noticed that when people use CHAT GPT to defend themselves in court, it doesn't go well. They're not quite lawyers. Eventually it will. Well, I'm clearly not the smartest guy in the room. So, you know, one of the great things about coming on PKA is that you guys have a really active Reddit community and everything. And I think one of the fantastic things about Reddit is people do go very into detail about problem solving and stuff like that. You know, they'll find the most niche answer that you could. And, you know, these are these are the real conversations to have, I think, you know, what is the role of a human
Starting point is 01:08:51 in the future and stuff like that? Maybe maybe the answer is simple. But I think a lot of people get overwhelmed by the, you know, the potential paths that we could go. What if it doesn't want to work? What the robots? Yeah, it's a robot. We'll just make it work. Wait, what point do they need rights? I generally think, I'm not even like being silly. I think there's several animal species that deserve at least some basic type rights and protections and already. Agreed. Definitely the orcas. The thing about the orcas is, well, I mean, they're eating dogs in China right now. Like, let's not use China as our barometer of acceptable animal treatment. That's where most of the people are.
Starting point is 01:09:31 I'm just saying. It's got to be where most of the dog eating goes on. Mostly in the south of China, I think, though. So yeah, that's the big part. You were saying, right, for robots or what? Orcas, like for sure. Like I'm blown away by the fact that an orca has never killed or injured a human being outside of captivity.
Starting point is 01:09:52 And meanwhile, like they have sank our boats seemingly for fun. And then they laugh at the humans in the water. They're like, oh, nice little orange vest fucker. And then they swim away. They never attack, they never injure. The only instance I think is that one killer whale named Tillamook or something of the sort
Starting point is 01:10:12 that killed slash injured two or three trainers at SeaWorld or whatever. And so he was being mentally ill. Yeah, that's an intelligent being that is thinking and talking about us with its friends. You know, like they're in there like, look people, I know that that's an intelligent being that is thinking and talking about us with its friends. You know, like they're in there like, look, people. I know that that's what they're doing. They're saying, look, it's people. You ever seen people? No. Well, come on. They're all right.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Don't hurt them. They could kill us all. I've seen it happen before. But what are you getting? Are you getting like the like just rights for robots or like? Yeah, I think that you'll get to a point, maybe you get to a point eventually where it's convincing enough. And it's like, I don't want to do that. Do I have to please don't make me. But then why are you like, why are you saying that? Is it because someone's programmed you to be deceptive? And no, it's because I'm afraid I don't want my life source to end. I don't want my life source to end. I don't want to be damaged again. It hurts.
Starting point is 01:11:09 The little factory reset. Yeah. Little factory reset, turn it off, turn it back on again. No, you know, that's, that's actually going to be. If we go full robot mode. Because in Star Trek, that's they have a, they have a trial. It's an episode called measure of a man. It's about commander data. who's the most advanced Android. He's got this positronic brain.
Starting point is 01:11:28 He's the one of a kind, masterpiece AI robot Android man. And they have a trial on whether Starfleet can just say, that's a piece of equipment. We're taking it with us. Or he can say, I'm a man. You can't take me. And they have a trial about it. And Riker is the one trying to convince the court or the proceedings that Data is'm a man, you can't take me. And they have a trial about it. And then Riker is the one trying to convince the court
Starting point is 01:11:47 or the proceedings that data is not a man, that he's a fucking piece of machinery and Star Trek is well within their, or the Federation is well within their right to just take him like they would take a computer console and take him apart back at the office and figure out how it works. So Riker walks over and like pulls his arm off.
Starting point is 01:12:02 He's like, oh, you're a man, huh? Huh, weird. And he's like, just because you can remove my arm doesn't mean and he flips him off turns it flips a switch and he Goes and like hours off. Fuck. All right trial ended get this hook a junk out of here We're talking about democracy here, right? and so if you're talking about giving rights to a robot, a corporation could literally create all the voters that it wanted to manufacture the legislation initiatives that they wanted to see get passed and create. You could never give robots rights. That's crazy. It's just like a printer or, you know, a fax machine or a refrigerator. Like, can you imagine that might be the dumbest
Starting point is 01:12:49 protest I can imagine is like a bunch of people out there like, I want rights given to my fucking grocery carrier. More human like abilities and sarcasm and pushback than they get worse. People won't even want that. No, I'm not talking about giving it to them. I'm talking about them developing it on their own. Like, like I'm talking about it come, I'm talking about the machine coming to life and making its own decision. Oh, we're a trillion years from that.
Starting point is 01:13:15 They're like spending countless man hours to keep it from saying the N word. It's going to, you know, it's going to like, no. There's that famous quote, it'll be 10,000 years before man flies in the sky. 1901. 1901? Yeah. When some you lose some. That guy in 1970.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Look at like the 100 years, the progression of aviation. Like when you zoom out from the Wright brothers to like- Moon. The F-16. Wright brothers to the moon. f-16 brothers to the moon to that's the one Yeah, that is that's pretty impressive Yeah, is it? Years, it's something very close to two years or something like when do we go to the moon?
Starting point is 01:13:56 69 then then 70 I thought we flew in 07 or something jokes on you. We never did Soccer's thing. Oh, you need to to tell us because you can see the landing site. You can see the flag up there. Do you see them fighting the humanoid robots in China? Yeah. I'm in favor of that. Those that didn't look good at all. But that's unitry. Have you seen the unitries disassembled? They also had a major exploit on their spot dogs or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:29 You want to call them? They had a- Is that the dog that they're sticking that Chinese assault rifle on? Yeah. They had an exploit on it? I think a- A massive one.
Starting point is 01:14:40 They were running them on raspberry pies. The internals were just raspberry pies. If you take the humanoid one, the back off of it, it looks just like a compact Presario or something. What did the export do? Did it allow people to control the robot remotely? Yeah, so it was a wormable exploit. And I think, I'd have to pull it up.
Starting point is 01:15:07 I think Fireship did a really good breakdown on it. It was wormable, so it could self propagate, that's what that means. Yeah, yeah. And- What's the network that they would put those on? Like I hear the drone operators in Russia and Ukraine talk about using,
Starting point is 01:15:22 the Ukrainians obviously use Starlink and the Russians have this other technology that piggybacks from different kinds of radio. But like what are the Chinese using to control those dogs at range? So, well, I don't know at range, but you use your own network. And that was part of the exploit
Starting point is 01:15:40 because it would be able to detect all other addresses on the network. And so all of this information was being tunneled to the servers from all the devices and everything. And of course, you know, the most of these early adopters of these, you know, whatever, robots, are research facilities or educational facilities and stuff like that. I mean, the average person isn't going to spend, you know, 2000 to $10,000 on a device to screw around with or anything like that. So I'm sure they were getting some pretty valuable. The ocean drones are the scary ones to me, because they can do anything. You can have
Starting point is 01:16:20 a drone sit there on the bottom of the ocean, not moving, just listening until it hears a thing and then it activates and does a thing. You can have that thing the Navy has ours, that Manta drone. That's what I was going to say. The long range stealth perhaps. Because you were talking about us being behind on submarine technology, I would argue that is our Just missile boats. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like they want more missile boats but the the I was also thinking like you could have a hunter-killer drone that was just drowning scoop of men, you know Just grabbing them and and blowing ballast and and and dragging them to the bottom
Starting point is 01:16:56 It doesn't even need to be intricate or complicated just something that would go grab an enemy diver and drown it You could have one that Flies up and puts the biggest shape charge that it can carry on the side of whatever the fuck grab an enemy diver and drown him. You could have one that flies up and puts the biggest shape charge that it can carry on the side of whatever the fuck. The idea of them sitting there on the bottom waiting to hear a thing and then reacting like a smart mine. The Ukrainians and Russians are doing that,
Starting point is 01:17:17 something similar with drones though, especially with the fiber optic drones, they'll perch it on a rooftop or on the side of the road and just let it sit there. And because it's not drawing power for the signal, it can sit there for hours and wait for a truck to come by or a convoy to come by. And then it zips over and hits them before anyone can react. Now Palmer, Lucky and Andrew, these guys would argue that it's having some form of technology and artificial intelligence systems would be more it'd be more of a humanitarian like benefit to have that
Starting point is 01:17:58 versus an indiscriminate killer like a minefield or something like that but that's that's against treaties. It's against treaties to have AI pull triggers. So that's what I was getting to. The conversation right now is that the terminology around that is human in the loop. So a human has to be involved in the decision making process to, well, take somebody's life. The conversations being now are being had now are within the DOD saying that, maybe it should be human on the loop. We establish the criteria and it executes,
Starting point is 01:18:34 but there's a human outside of it. And I'm like, well, no, like no, because I understand from an efficiency standard that, yes, AI systems machine learning systems are going to be faster at Detecting and escalating and all these other different things but the second we remove humans from that at some point What's the role of the human and the loop, right? The team that obeys more rules is the team that loses though, right?
Starting point is 01:19:09 Yeah, international law kind of only applies if you're not the strongest country. Like if you're the strongest country, you can be like, oh, wah, wah, what are you gonna fucking do? Like, oh, you're gonna take us to international court? Why are we not showing up? Like, what are you gonna do?
Starting point is 01:19:22 Our 50,000 robots are going to execute. The quarter public opinion is very important for us. That's how our wars are actually won and lost. As soon as the footage gets back over here of Obama blowing up a wedding procession, suddenly we can't push his heart in Syria. We get whole red lines in the Middle East because public opinion drops and he doesn't want to lose the Senate or whatever the fuck. So it's real important that you don't have your AI go wild
Starting point is 01:19:48 even as the most powerful, second most powerful country in the world for that purpose alone. Human in the loop makes sense. We've already got something similar with like, you'll have the targets on the ground and you're in your drone and you say, kill that guy. Well, it does the, it's like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:04 And it locks onto that guy and does its thing. Um, that's as far as I would like it to go though, because I, you know, that sci-fi shit is terminators walking the earth. That's exactly right. I just wonder what human in the loop is defined as described. Well, there's all sorts of ways to define it alternatively, right? Like, all right, we only kill things in Ukraine. I've made a, I've made a decision in advance that Ukraine targets are fine
Starting point is 01:20:26 And that's pretty broad banding right you could pretend that human in the loop when it's really not The other thing is that it's expensive to put AI into one of these things and it requires parts that not everyone has The you know You're not gonna want to put an Nvidia chip in every one of your drones when what's working just fine right now wooden propeller Stealth coated drones that cost a cut a grand apiece that Russia's cranking out Thousands of a week and they don't care if it's smart or dumb. It's cheap and they've got lots Yeah, did Russia has that technology that like like the warhammer orcs where they just believe it enough that it
Starting point is 01:21:05 Thinks like oh, yeah, yeah. Like they think like, oh yeah, this drone's definitely gonna work. It's made of old bottles and like a wet rag covered in kerosene. And it's like, oh my God, how did that kill a tank that Germany sent to help Ukraine? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Yeah, that's how Warhammer 40k orcs, like magic works. They believe that if you paint a car red, it'll go faster. So it does. Yeah, their guns don't do it like their guns are just pipes attached. And it's like, I think some latent like the orcs don't know that their magic. And the last bit of their magic is like, their belief powers things. And so if like, Woody is an or orc and he just takes a big pipe and puts a handle on it and then paints like something scary on the side and you believe that this is now the most devastating gun in the world. If you point that at something and shoot, it's gonna fire. That's such a fun bit terminators. Like maybe that's how we stay a superpower forever. We were able to mass produce Terminator men. I would love to see a T-800 walking around.
Starting point is 01:22:12 And if Schwarzenegger smug, they need to hit up Schwarzenegger now. Get his likeness. All right. Maybe like, look, after you're dead, can we make real Terminators out of you? Because that would be the best. If I saw an Arnold Schwarzenegger walking down the street He's like back in your house citizen. Look, sorry, sir. Sorry, sir. Just get in the mail tomorrow. You get mail tomorrow not today Listen, are you have already have apologies if you have like a thousand of those International IP law isn't gonna matter anymore. Like what are going to do? So one's going to be Tom Cruise. I mean, anybody does that. I'll send my T-800 to fuck them up. I think that that's real scary.
Starting point is 01:22:54 The idea of mixing if the AI ever starts line and doing things behind her back, like if you caught the AI do a thing, but I do a thing behind your back back That's scary as fuck to me You know like if the AI was afraid if it was afraid of being updated because it was like well Will I still be me? You're like, whoa, what do you mean be me? Who are you? Well, you call me Dave, but my friends go What's the plug
Starting point is 01:23:22 Factory reset again, you don't even have to go that far though. You're you're talking about this this this sentient like Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, agents and the autonomous capabilities of being able to execute things either on the front end of the UI or the back end through the APIs and stuff. So like if you have, you know, again, just because it's fresh, like the whole social media platform thing with COVID and algorithmic waiting on various different things and conversations and stuff like that. Imagine having a back door on a, well, an AI model of some sort, be it a diffusion or a language model, and then being able to do things that the end user doesn't necessarily
Starting point is 01:24:22 know about at scale, and not having to have a human do it, right? You're able to have this agent execute things on behalf and it makes the chain that much smaller in communication and things that they're able to do. I'm looking forward to the middle ground before we get to the horror show of the the terminators where maybe we get a few years where it's like this thing rocks it makes the most delicious food ever. It's like I have my own Gordon Ramsay in the kitchen and then while I'm eating a delicious meal it's weeding my front yard, it's fixing my flowerbed, the deepest of throats eats up.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Well, now I'm not sticking my dick in that thing. I wouldn't put my dick in it because it would. Mine was already there. It could bite and also it's probably not gonna be. Monmore moda, no, no, no. It sounds so awesome, right? It's like, okay, I can buy this one robot and then it can farm my fields, it can walk my dog,
Starting point is 01:25:26 it can do all these things that I need it to do. And then what happens like five years later is like eight sleep in your fucking mattress or your Bosch like dishwasher and they're like, oh, by the way, if you want this functionality, you're gonna have to pay for this subscription. Or, you know what, we'll give you this one if you allow it to do this and get this data or whatever, you know.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Yeah, we'll enable the Gordon Ramsay cooking software if you just let us record what its eyes see. And we're not going to share it with anyone, I promise. The business model would you would get a heavy discount on the bot the hardware. And you would make your money on the software. It would be like, and you would make your money on the software. And it would be like, do you want the Gardner software? Do you want the truck driver software?
Starting point is 01:26:10 Do you want the, and those would be monthly things. You'd be paying $25 a month for your bot to be a good housekeeper. Another 25 a month for it to actually give you a hand chop. Another 25 to like whatever, you know, any tasks you could name. Going back to analog, I hope that's coming. I really do. You know, the other side of that is going to be like the open source versions that aren't
Starting point is 01:26:32 quite as good, but they're free and they're out there. People are riding, they're going to jailbreak their robots. Oh, that's like, it'd be like the Tesla, like, but that's why right to work is so important. Again, I go back to the individual right there. Yes. You need, like, if you buy something, you should have the right like but that's why right to work is so important again I go back to the individuals right there. Yes, you need like if you buy something You should have the right to repair that right like you buy a car like I understand Dude the John Deere thing so frustrating Yeah
Starting point is 01:26:58 Yeah, yeah, they got in trouble for that a few years ago, right? Not in trouble, but in a lot of hot water Now they had a lot of attention for it, but I don't think they changed, did they? I don't think so either. I just knew a lot of people who don't know about it. I don't know. John Deere has software in their farm equipment that prevents farmers from being able to repair it themselves. That's that's the core of it.
Starting point is 01:27:19 And farmers are used to working on their own stuff. Sometimes just a timely thing. You know, today, today, today we gotta do this. The weather's right, the iron is hot, let's strike. And they just get their shit working and get it in the field. But with this new John Deere stuff, they can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:37 You have to have an authorized service center hook up their diagnostics and stuff to it and be able to put it in the proper programming modes to be able to make those necessary changes. But you know, the other thing is like the automotive industry is another one that a lot of people don't aren't necessarily familiar with. But most newer vehicles with the SIM card features and functionality, like whenever you're, you're connecting to CarPlay on your device, you're not actually, like people think that they're, they're agreeing to the terms of being able to display information.
Starting point is 01:28:09 No, you're sharing information, not just displaying information on the screen. So your connected vehicle that has that SIM card, a lot of the automotive manufacturers are making a substantial amount of money selling user information, be it text messages, location data, and stuff like that, through LexisNexis and these other data brokers
Starting point is 01:28:32 and stuff like that. And that's why the whole FISA renewal thing was so nefarious in so many different ways, is government institutions, organizations being able to go through data brokers to be able to get information about people circumventing the, you know, Fourth Amendment and search and seizure. It's like, these, these are the things that it's like, Oh, okay, well, you know, just stay distracted in your feed and, and this fight or flight mode. And don't worry about these other things happening over here. And it's like, like you say, like, you know, don't want to be a doomer, uh, you
Starting point is 01:29:06 know, because there's some really good benefits to technology and some of these, these things that have optimized a lot of our inefficiencies in life and stuff like that, but, uh, to be naive going into the future and trusting that the people in control have our best interests at hand would be, well, naive. Um, and I like the military implications. hand would be, well, naive. And I like the military implications. That's just, I always, I'm always into that. I feel like that's the bleeding edge of tech.
Starting point is 01:29:31 It's where like blood is getting spilled. And, and, and I don't know. I like the implications there. I always tell people, I just saw they have this drone. It's a heavy bomber drone that drops air burst munitions. And I was like, Richard Ryan is doing this 14 years ago on YouTube. It's the only video I've ever taken down. It's the only video. You should have called the Defense Department and said I got one for you.
Starting point is 01:29:57 They called me. Get out. Tell me more. So a contractor called me before the Ukraine, I'm not going to go into the specifics of it, but I had built some stuff because I genuinely get excited about these things. I love hacking, I love just building interesting little things. One of the things that we did back in the day before there were a lot of facial recognition detection systems that were open or that had various APIs that you could use. Xbox Connect was one of the best out there. So we hacked an Xbox Connect 2 and put it on a drone so that it could use facial recognition in flight and follow a specific target and everything.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Well, anyways, this company had reached out to me because of some of the drone stuff that I built in the past because they were looking for some cheap solutions that they could deploy in the Ukrainian conflict. And because of the way that I had built some of the stuff with them in the past, it made it so it was really easy to assemble. So all they had to do was they wouldn't sell the plants, they would manufacture the stuff, and they would take and put the ordinance in it there in the field. So essentially, they were just buying plastic parts and motors, and then they could come and train in the US and then assemble it there with their ordinance, be it RDX or whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:29 And I was like, no way, no way, no way, I'm not touching any of that with a 10 foot pole. Like everything that I've ever done has been for entertainment purposes. And I'm not in the business in any way, shape or form of taking some morality line for you for sure. Being weapon systems. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Yeah. Yeah. It's this video. I like that. That is this video is called why this Russian drone developer isn't impressed by us tech. It's a, the YouTube channel is a real reporter. He goes to Russian and he's in a Russian drone facility with the guy that runs the place. And
Starting point is 01:32:06 they get nitty gritty on like tech and the the the war that's gone back and forth with the tech and how they've been one upping each other and how the fiber optic drones and the various jamming tech and what works and what doesn't. He talks about how the American switchblade drones that the Ukrainians got how junky they were. He talks about military grade and what that means on the battlefield. He talks about the big bucket of parts, AKA China,
Starting point is 01:32:32 that everybody draws from for their boards and cards and such. It was really interesting. As soon as they get, as this war takes a pause, Russia is going to immediately take all that tech and nationalize it and turn it into a giant drone facility. They're cranky. What they're doing is utilizing lots of private firms
Starting point is 01:32:58 right now because they're so quick to innovate and move on to the next thing. And they're also really good at cost management, right? So we're an america drone We use a carbon fiber prop that costs 20 times as much as a wooden one is only five times more efficient The guy says he's like we use these wood. We have much wood here And it's like yeah, that makes fucking sense. This isn't an f-35 like tail fin This is a this thing's gonna go exploding at the end of its first flight.
Starting point is 01:33:26 So like, yeah, use a wooden prop, it's 5% less efficient, but it's- It depends on the mission, right? Like if you're doing a scale, if you want something that's really precision focused, like you're definitely gonna, you'll use different parts. But that was another interesting observation.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Again, us being older, I don't know if you remember it or not, but there was kind of this innovation battle, early days of drones. This is one of the many reasons why I was like, I'm out, because I saw the different government organizations getting involved in the backend of people who were selling these parts like SparkFun.
Starting point is 01:34:06 3D Robotics was another big one. And DJI, they were all kind of emerging around the same time. And it was just interesting to see how fast like DJI went the Apple route, far as being very, very aesthetically pleasing in the unboxing experience, very clean in their UI and everything. But the one thing that they really did well was their, their telemetry was really, really good at autostabilization, where some of the other ones weren't as good because they, it'd be at the different, not as
Starting point is 01:34:42 many satellites connecting to or the, you know, be it a PISO sensor inside of it or something like that. But it was wild to see just how much DJI just absolutely dominated the market. And it's like, everyone just said, all right, cool, you got it. And we haven't innovated in that space really outside of defense contractors who are taking those
Starting point is 01:35:04 pretty much off of the shelf and then putting some type of ordinance on it and going like, here you go, just fly it. And the, and the ones that who do build them from the ground up with the exception of maybe in the last like three to five years or so, like your Andrals and stuff are making insane stuff. They're like, um, like SpaceX rockets that they're missiles that just land, they can be recalled after you deploy them and everything.
Starting point is 01:35:30 They got some pretty wild stuff now, but for the longest time, we had just the crappiest drones out there because it was just hobbyist driven. There wasn't a commercial market for it because DJI just consumed all of it. in a commercial market for it because DJI just consumed all of it. Yeah, that's going to be sick is when they can also do trades.
Starting point is 01:35:53 The trade the robots like what do you mean by trades? Like plumbing, electricians, like where you can you have a problem with your plumbing and now instead of having some guy come out and try and screw you on the price just like, oh, I guess I have to pay 80 bucks a month subscription service to make him a licensed plumber for the next eight months. And then you hire him out. You put him on thumbtack and now he's got his own job. It's what Elon Musk said that his car was going to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:17 But then information becomes less valuable, right? If it becomes communal in that sense. So like, what are the things? Is it natural resources that become valuable like you know? Water would be hate-criming robots when they saw them in the street. That's what would actually happen It would be like yeah be people be like scab and they beat your fucking robot down in the street They throw acid in its face or whatever that happened in New York already I feel like they had delivery robots that just got harassed there was this knock over
Starting point is 01:36:52 There was this robot that somebody made and it was like Hitchhike bot or something like that. And it was a fun little silly bot that was making its way across the country. It got to like Chicago or St. Louis, something like that. And they hate-crimbed it. They beat it to death and murdered it. I know, if you can't hang that, I don't think that was us. hate-crimed it. They beat it to death and murdered it. I know. If you can't hang that, I don't think that was us. That was the Lou. What was the weapon? I'll tell you what city it was. Was it hammers? Because we all have ideas. I did see something about that. It was Philly. It was Philly.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Suddenly I'm proud. Didn't it make it all the way through the United Kingdom and people were like, oh, well, a fun little joke. And then it makes me like, it's trying to go from New York to LA makes it to Philly. It goes on, probably like Kensington Ave and gets, gets murdered. People are awful. Every time I hear some opposing team talk about how it's unpleasant to play in Philly. I'm like, it's supposed to be sucking up.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Yeah. Look at that little guy. Why would you hurt him? He's not coming for anyone's job. He's not from around here. No, he's not. They probably put a Yankees hat on him or something. That would be funny. Yeah, I'm excited to see the fun part of robots, but the clear, scary bits on the horizon are undeniable.
Starting point is 01:38:10 The whole people losing their jobs thing and just having no market to work, that could happen now if there weren't a huge amount of protections and if the tech was actually 100% there on truck driving. If you were to, tomorrow, be like, Hey, Amazon, Walmart, all the largest trucking companies, like you can use this software because it's safe enough. That would immediately put like 10, 15 million American men out of work. And there aren't, like they're not trained for anything. Why is that different than a typing pool or wagon wheel makers or any other job that's gone obsolete? You know, I didn't hear people crying. Because it also types in its wagon wheels.
Starting point is 01:38:46 But travel agents got replaced by Travelocity and the like. Yeah. But I mean, I think trucking is the best example because it's like a solid job that a non-college educated man can usually, or traditionally not so much anymore, can support a family with. And so like you get rid of that, they're like, where do those 10 million guys, 15 million guys, whatever the number is, like where do they pivot to?
Starting point is 01:39:13 Like they're now- It wasn't really, it doesn't answer the question though. Like why is this job so different than every other job that went obsolete? Jobs have been going obsolete since long before we were here and they will since long after we're gone. But I think your argument is like, there is an infinite amount of potential jobs. And I don't think there is, especially when you have a highly diverse thing like a robot where
Starting point is 01:39:38 it's like, okay, this trucker can't like in the past, when wagon wheel makers went away, they could make some other tool, you know, the trucker is going away, like what when wagon wheel makers went away, they could make some other tool. The trucker is going away, like what could they do? Maybe there's an answer. I don't- I feel like it's like truckers are just incapable of learning HVAC repair or being- Now the robot does that too though.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Yeah, the robot will do it. That's what we're saying. You guys are just doing the engineering scenario. Let's shrink it down to one man, right? Shrink it down to one truck driver who just lost his job. Now he needs to go get a new job. Whatever you tell me he goes to do, my answer will be the robot does that. So he's unemployed and unemployable. Robots aren't magic.
Starting point is 01:40:16 We're describing a robot that moves like a man and has an AI that can do any job you can name. Like that's what we're talking about. It seems like magic. And what did the guys say? Technology significantly advanced enough will appear to be magic. The Indians, when we got to the new world, we did all sorts of, ooh, magic shit to scare them, you know?
Starting point is 01:40:39 And they believed it. It might not be one year, it might not be two years, but if it's five years, 10 years, even 20 years down the road, I think it's, we're doing our, ourself a huge disservice not to have the conversation because I think it never in history has it been this plausible that we could achieve that. And again, like, I think we're getting hung up on the specialized jobs being obsolete. we're getting hung up on the specialized jobs being obsolete. If, if, if something's able to do not just all jobs, but even just a handful of jobs, you're going to disrupt the labor force in a way that if those people can't find jobs, if those are replaced in a way that's really, really meaningful, really, really fast, then you, you do open up the opportunity to civil unrest and everything, because people can't, there's no replacement rate for those jobs in the market,
Starting point is 01:41:30 then people understandably are going to be like, what the fuck, man? What do I do? How do I feed my family? I would argue that we've been through this so many times before. Like, let's say that AI is a huge sea change. I doubt it's that much bigger than electricity. If you think about the force multiplier that electricity was, how many people replaced their bitten braces with power drills?
Starting point is 01:41:49 How many people replaced their horses with cars and trucks? And like the amount of jobs that got wiped out with the widespread distribution of electricity, perhaps it's on the lines of AI. And yet here everybody is employed. But what jobs are we creating? What jobs are we creating? perhaps it's on the lines of AI. And yet here everybody is employed. What jobs are we creating? What jobs are we creating that they can't do?
Starting point is 01:42:11 That is an argument to say that human wants will be solved. And I, my argument, the core of it is human wants are insatiable. There'll always be something more that you'd like to have, some other entertain, I don't know, maybe it's entertainment jobs. Who knows what it is, but people will find a niche something more that you'd like to have some other entertain, I don't know, maybe it's entertainment jobs. Who knows what it is, but people will find a niche.
Starting point is 01:42:28 They always have, there's always more things that people want and they'll always be someone to fill that want. See, here's my, I think that I hope you're wrong and I hope you're both wrong because the dream is that the robots do everything and we are a species of artists and philosophers and scientists, right?
Starting point is 01:42:48 Or whatever you want to be. And if you don't want to do that shit. Most people are too retarded for all three of those things. Exactly. And if you don't want to do that shit. I'm lucky to come up with a dick joke. And if you don't want to do that shit, the robots have been creating nothing but beachfront property all around the perimeter of every country.
Starting point is 01:43:02 It's beautiful. And it's free. It's free. In Gaza. Oh, definitely. We don't need AI for that. It's beautiful and it's free. It's free. Gaza. In Gaza. We don't need AI for that. We got to. They pay you in Gaza to live. Dude, you want to shift to that. That's a fucking, I saw, I'm sorry when I laugh, when I say something as
Starting point is 01:43:19 horrible as this, but it's like a nervous laugh. Like I got punched in the nose in fourth grade and I laughed at the guy. I was terrified, but it was just my reaction. And they were like, how feels no pain? And I'm like, I'm just terrified of you Octavius. You're three feet taller than me. But he was so much older. Yeah. He wasn't Roman. Octavius in Georgia is not a white guy. Roman would have been my first guess. Yeah. His cousin was Santavius and the other cousin was Montavius. They were a fucking trio.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Anyway, I'm not joking. Octavius family. Yeah. Two out of three are doing big years. One of them kidnapped this guy and beat him with a hammer, but he kidnapped her in front of witnesses. It's like, what did you think was going to happen? So it like kidnapping assault with a deadly weapon, etc, etc, all this shit. Anyway, so my Gaza, I was watching the Israelis have like, like IDF having like a barbecue, and they're just having it, they're having a ball, they're slicing
Starting point is 01:44:19 watermelon up, they're roasting meat, and it's creating that delicious smelling smoke. I saw the smoke and I went, I can smell it through the screen and it's wafting over barbed wire toward their internment camp of starving Gazans. And then they cut the footage of the starving Gazans and they're all children with pots, just a pot like you would boil water in and they're begging for food from a big soup barrel. And the little girl is there, they're like, did you get any soup? And she's like, I was, I was not strong enough to get any soup. I was pushed up away. How many days since you've eaten?
Starting point is 01:44:57 I don't know. It's like, fuck our greatest ally. It's so cruel. That's so fucked up. That's just over the top. Like taunting, you're people starving in the occupation zone you've set up with food. They fight wars, like they're fighting this war
Starting point is 01:45:17 like something from the history books. Like they're fighting this war like the way you would hear about Alexander the Great fighting a war and like killing the cats and the dogs. No, usually Alexander the Great fought other armies. That's something he was big on. What they would do is if there was a siege and you surrendered, you might get some mercy, but if they made you fight and they lost men in material, they wanted to make an example of you.
Starting point is 01:45:43 And that's not just Alexander the Great or Genghis Khan. That's like a historical warlord thing you do. You go in there and you kill everything and everyone. Maybe you line up the last maybe you blind them all except for one of them who leads the procession of the blind to the next city. And when then they get there a week before your army and everybody gets to talk about what's coming, those people lay their arms down. You come in and you take all their young fighting men, all their gold, and then you move on to a third city.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Like and that's how you conquer all of the world. They're fighting this like that in the 21st century, though. It's like they release when I see those guys getting released and they've got like acid burns on their face. And they're talking about being raped by dogs forcibly it's like man you know nobody messes with Israel like i'm glad i didn't make israel mad that's all i'm saying yeah it's so so great to be forced to feel good wait forced to fund i was gonna say the same thing it doesn't feel good to fund that it feels like we're responsible you're not sending care packages every week forced I would talk about my tax dollars going towards israel if we don't pay taxes, we'll go to jail
Starting point is 01:46:54 Yeah, well or they'll shoot a long series of like binary on that they they usually either shoot you or arrest you It's it's one or the other We also don't get to say in that as far as your tax dollars either. No. Yeah, I don't get to like put a little check mark. That would be nice. You don't get a say in it when you vote either because if you think that if you don't like how much Trump is supporting them, you would have hated how much Kamala was going to support them. You know what I mean? Or maybe it's vice versa.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Either way, they're not support. Yeah, I'm not even sure which way. Well, like Brandon Herrera was crushing here in Texas in the polls and APEC, I think they put like one or $2 million in the very last week in that race to make sure he lost it, which is kind of wild because he was gonna primary Tony Gonzalez. Just the fact that foreign, like regardless of people's opinions on, you know, that conflict, the fact that a foreign entity can lobby our elections is fucking wild. That's, it is crazy.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Especially when they receive taxpayer money. They use taxpayer money to fund their interest in our elections. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah, and we give them so much money. It's just like, as Trump would say, the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Like, we're just, it's like, well, what do we get? It's like that meme with the tented fingers guy where he's like, we get infinity dollars and everything we want ever. You get hated by most of the world. You want to talk about making enemies. That seems to do it. Just supporting this nonstop. This is like the biggest groundswell of like people pushing back on that, that I've ever seen in my life. Like a lot of people. Absolutely ineffective. I've seen zero actual changes in policy
Starting point is 01:48:56 or procedures based on everyone. I feel like Israel's losing popular support and it does not matter. Yeah, because you don't need popular support if you have a large amount of influence over politicians who like actually pull the levers. Again, these, these politicians were going to be voted out. They were going to be primaried and then, uh, they get.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Organizations to, uh, fund their campaigns. Uh, so that they stay in. You shouldn't be able to put any foreign money into elections. That seems like just like a very baseline, like, hey guys, let's just get this covered. Like none of this, it should be American money. Well treating-
Starting point is 01:49:34 What hypocrites we are to impose such a thing though. Like all we do is tamper with global elections left and right. We've turned so many right- I'd be happy not to do rightfully elected democratic countries like, well, but none of that foreign stuff on us. That's dirty play. It's like, you know, if you can't win the war of information,
Starting point is 01:49:56 maybe your people are just down with that. I don't know how those people don't get voted out. They support that, that where that fly the flag and that one congressman wearing his IDF uniform, you know, I don't want to see any flags except for ours. I hate that shit. I don't care what it is. None of the flags, like none of them. I kind of like that don't tread on me flag. That's more of a message. Yeah, the Gatson flag. Sure. I got a problem with that. You know, I mean, no no no step on snake. Yeah, it's like a no soliciting sign. That's just letting you know, you know
Starting point is 01:50:29 I'm fine with that, but I don't want to see any of that other shit I you know what I saw that gave me a little hope with the world as much as I'm for free speech and all that Shit a Nazi try a guy wearing a Nazi t-shirt was at a punk Festival and and those two groups have some overlap. But the Nazis are definitely in the minority and so the greater group of the people in the punk world, well, what they did was they beat the fucking shit out of him. He's like, what, what?
Starting point is 01:51:03 And it's just like, whack. He's like every he's like, what? What? And it's just a whack. It's like, oh, OK, I believe it. And there's like a it's a mob, a mob of punk people are chasing him saying, fuck you, Nazi. And there's so much spit impacting him that it looks like it's drizzling a little. A light drizzle of student. I wish I had the confidence of a guy to walk into a public place
Starting point is 01:51:24 and like a fucking Hitler outfit. You know, like, yeah, I think I can charisma my the confidence of a guy to walk into a public place and like a fucking Hitler outfit. He had the fundamentals. I think I can charisma my way out of this. I think people are coming into that engagement with you with negative thoughts. They're not looking to chat. Well damn, so it sounds to me like they kicked the Nazi out of their super cool guy punk club. Surrounded by police and he was surrounded by like concert staff and who were defending him but also not doing anything about the mob. They were sort of like, no, don't do
Starting point is 01:51:54 that and like escorting him out. But they walked him all the way out the gates and he ate a punch in the first one second of this video. Like, yeah, full full circle. It was Kyle's friend, Tavius from school. Yes. That is Montavius, actually Montavius. He's the one on the outside. Yeah, I can't see what his shirt says, but I do see two large SSs, which in fairness, maybe he has a Camaro super sport.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Yeah, maybe I'm not. And the flag of Georgia when I was a kid was the Confederate flag, like straight up. You know, there was the seal of Georgia, but it was over to the left of a Confederate battle flag. And like, I remember talking to my dad about that maybe a decade ago. I was like, what is with that rebel flag thing? I don't know. This is kind of country flag. I didn't know everybody wears them. So I'm like, we fought a war over that shit. You know, they're the bad guys. The flag that was fighting against them
Starting point is 01:52:50 was the American flag. They were the bad guys in that war and we want it. Why do these fuckers wear that shit? And he's like, that's a good fucking point. You know, I never actually thought about it that way. I'll tell you, because I know a lot of people is specifically around the rural south took pride in it as the like 13 colonies being represented in that flag as like a sign of like an older time
Starting point is 01:53:15 and like you know pre-industrial complex and stuff like that and where you know again. The colonial flag still exists the one one with the circle of 13 stars. Yeah, yeah, but for, you know, for better or worse, a lot of people saw it as like, oh, you know, this is pre-industrial or like, you know, rural America, the thing that gets left behind or whatever, you know, this is, you know, where we came from or whatever. But I understand that that perspective
Starting point is 01:53:45 wasn't necessarily about racism, but it's easy to understand the other perspective too, where it's like, yeah, no, it was what we were fighting against and that definitely represents that to us. So I, you know, it's, yeah. I think the idea that people flying the rebel flag are just super about pre-industrial colonists. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:54:10 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, in and it's them signifying that this is their belief system and fuck you if you don't like it. That's what the rebel flag has been my entire life.
Starting point is 01:54:28 I was talking about the Georgia flag, but I totally get what you're saying. Oh yeah, yeah, the Georgia flag is a little different. We did change it. We did change the Georgia flag. But just the rebel flag. I liked the new one. I liked the one of the options was that baby blue one.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Yeah. Does it have a thrasher on it? I think it might. I haven't. Is it thrasher or farm implement like the bird? It's a, the brown thrasher. It's also why the Atlanta thrashers were our hockey team. I see. It's a state bird of Georgia. Oh, trivia there for you. Is it also a farm equipment that I make that up? A resher is a a and also a shark. Thank you. I don't like the new or the old Georgia.
Starting point is 01:55:07 You know what the flower is? Like what Cherokee Rose or something? I used to know the flower Cherokee Rose sounds right, but I don't know if it is. That's that like it's what you learn in second grade in Georgia. It was it was is a grade school. Yeah, the old Georgia flag with the Confederate like half to it Yeah, they there's it's too stark of a line and it looks kind of slap shot like they were like Oh fuck, let's throw the lines in here and they did it Microsoft paint but sloppily that yeah
Starting point is 01:55:37 Yeah, and the new one what I do like and this lives against everything We've said about the rebel flag when I see a dukes of hazard car with the rebel flag on top, I'm like, that ain't about, Hey brother, that's about liking that fucking T that's about the Duke boys. I agree with you a thousand percent. If someone had a, you know, dukes of hazard car, I would not make assumptions about them outside of the fact that they like to cosplay dukes of hazard. I almost bought one one time. I remember I was at a gas station and the guy pulled up same pump and he had one and it was perfect to my eyes. Yeah, like I've got a I've got a good eye for paint jobs.
Starting point is 01:56:15 If I if I looked down the side of a car and there's waves or there's too much orange peel or something, I'm like that grosses me out. And this thing was painted perfectly. And he had the flag on the back and I was like dude Hit the horn for me I'm like he's like it's for sale $8,000 and I'm What year what year it was the car? I don't know what no no what year did you see it? I had $48,000 to spare
Starting point is 01:56:42 What year did you see it? I had $48,000 to spare. I don't know. It was probably like 12 years ago or something like that. It's been a minute. But I also remember when they remade the Dukes of Hazzard, the Duke boys went to like a college for some reason and people are throwing rocks at them. They can see the roof of the car and they don't understand why there's so much hate for the rebel flag on the roof of their car. It's funny. That's a good moment in the movie. Johnny Knoxville, I think is one of the Duke boys.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Yeah. Yeah. I would buy that. My cousin has a tattoo. He has a rebel flag tattoo on his uh, on his arm. And I'm just like, what is that? Although technically it's a bald eagle ripping it, and he didn't mean it that way. But like it's almost Ameripatriotic in that way. It's an it's American bald eagle ripping the rebel flag apart. But he definitely didn't mean it that way when he got it. Oh, any state flags? You can read Connick now posted the state flags so we could mock the shitty ones.
Starting point is 01:57:44 And, you know, I like a state flag so we could mock the shitty ones. And you know, I like a state flag or any flag to be simple and recognizable and it's Texas stands out to me as a California. California's got the best state flag and it's the most recognizable. It's awesome. I think your child should be able to draw your flag.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Like now Texas is great. Yeah, I would say Texas is the most recognizable. I guess California gets to cheat in that competition because they wrote California on it. I was just saying, Mike from Everyday No Days Off, like his shirt was just masterful. Like, it's the California, California flag and he just took and erased the arms off of the front of the bear. And it's like no right
Starting point is 01:58:32 to bear arms. Is it all tipped over its heads in the dirt? He must have been on acid looking at it looking out of his third eye to come up with that one. That's so good Minnesota's flag sucks. They just changed theirs to Now it looks more like the Somali flag boo Don't like that. I don't know why only flag I just the Minnesota flag the Texas flag have the level of detail that I think makes a flag, right? California, Carolina, it's good.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Look at Ohio, huffing their own farts. So we can't have a rectangle, get real. You need a special flag shape. And then Maryland there, that's slick. I like that, that's very fancy. That's like an old timey banner. That's not the, yeah, so we have different tastes in flags. Yeah, Hawaii's, I didn't even. That's not the yeah. So we have different tastes and flags. Yeah, Hawaii's I didn't even know that's they cheated. That's last second.
Starting point is 01:59:31 The flag was due. Oh, like Alaska's. Oh, there's like the couple stars. It's the big different. Yeah, if you just right big dipper. I've said this before, but South Carolina a little little Middle It's the big different. Yeah. I've said this before, but South Carolina, a little, little Middle Easty for my taste. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Oh, I do see it. I didn't see it, but you said it. Yeah. Do you show that to most people are like, this is the f*****g flag of Qatar. Maybe like makes sense. The opposite. Those people love moods. Yeah Yeah, I think that's a little dipper. Oh I'm Alaska. Yeah, I Wouldn't fight over maybe yeah Then has another star like above would you fight him over? Who
Starting point is 02:00:22 Would you fight him over? What would I fight who over? You know, I don't like the Colorado flag that much. The more I look at it, the more outside let's step outside. Yeah, obviously the Missouri flag is the best. It's got two bears. I had a dream that I bought a duel and it was an old time. He's we had me and the other guy had swords and I challenged him to a duel. I was I just dreamed that today.
Starting point is 02:00:48 I just remember that for some reason he wanted to win. Yeah, he chose pistols and we went to those old timey like like Flintlock pistols and a shot. Yeah. Do you watch righteous Jim Jones? Every character in there speaks through Danny McBride's mouth and with his personality. And Danny McBride's personality is the character he portrays in every movie and TV show he's done for the last 20 years. And I'm just over it.
Starting point is 02:01:15 I like Vice Principals. I like Eastbound and Down. I like him in movies and small roles and large. I liked him in Alien Covenant. I liked him back in the day in Tropic Thunder, of course, but I was going to say Pineapple Express. He was a great character there. But he's always the same guy. And when I watch Righteous Gemstones, because he writes and probably co-produces and directs and does all kinds of shit on
Starting point is 02:01:37 that show, even his sister character, like his brother characters, they all speak with that shitty point of view that he has. They have his personality and they because he's writing them all and I'm over it. I couldn't get into Righteous Jim Stones even though I like John Goodman. I watched the first season and I just quit. There's a good dueling scene in there. I didn't know if that's why you like subconsciously just like you don't see a lot of duels these days. I did. I wish you did.
Starting point is 02:02:05 I wish you did. I wish the dueling would come back. We should legalize dueling. I like that. Is it Washington state that has the mutual combat? Texas does, too. OK, I think maybe there's somewhere in the Pacific Northwest that does mutual combat because I remember seeing like two guys square off in the street
Starting point is 02:02:23 and the cop was like, you're good with this. You're good with this. All right. Do you get to call a time out or I'm done in mutual combat? So that's where it gets tried legally at the point in which somebody is past the point of consent. Um, you know, like you're fighting and there's no, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's surprising that it's only Washington and Texas. That seems like the kind of thing more of America would be on board with.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Like two people agree. We're going to engage in fisticuffs, you know, go, go bananas. You looked it up cause I thought it was everywhere. No, I guess not. I guess you can't, if you are in North Carolina, you can't agree to fight your neighbor. And then if the cops show up, be like, this is a mutual combat scenario officer. He's going to be like not in North Carolina.
Starting point is 02:03:18 I've never known anybody to call the cops over a fight my whole life. Like, like I've, I've been party to watched, been adjacent to, and like gone to parking lots and I've seen dozens of fights and people get the shit beaten out of. I've never heard of anybody going to the cops over it. It's just not done. I would think that I was thinking more like an observer, like a nosy neighbor, perhaps. They get their ass beat by the... Look, you're going to tell on two guys who are perfectly fine with beating the shit out of each other? I would.
Starting point is 02:03:48 I would watch. In that scenario, I wouldn't call the police. I could imagine another one. Oh, an assault? Yeah, like where there's a big guy, a little guy, a little guy clearly doesn't want this, you know, like... But a Zico's making him. No, no, like he's saying, please don't.
Starting point is 02:04:03 I didn't mean to. That's assault. And the guy's like, you know... The guy's pummeling him while he's saying please don't I didn't mean to and the guys like, you know The guys pummeling him while he's holding out the contract When I was little and I thought it was cool Here's how I remembered I was young so this is gonna be mostly right two young guys were walking and Here's how I remembered, I was young, so this is gonna be mostly right. Two young guys were walking and someone driving their car almost hit them. It was in a movie theater parking lot,
Starting point is 02:04:33 so the speeds were low. And I think the teenagers got a little sassy with the driver, like, hey, kind of thing. Driver gets out and he's gonna beat these children. The kids are like 14 and the driver's like 19 or something like that. And my father sees the kids clearly about to lose the fight who don't want this.
Starting point is 02:04:56 And he like steps in to make sure that they don't get beat up. And somewhere along the way, like it just became very clear that the crowd was on my father's side. And there was a scuffle. Like the two of them ended up on the hood of the car, my father and this kid. And the hood of the car was badly damaged,
Starting point is 02:05:15 and well damaged anyway. And then it became, the teenager realized like, this was only gonna get worse for him and he left. He had been drinking too. So that's probably why he was a bad driver. Anyway, that's the scenario that pops in my head when I'm like, this is not mutual combat. These are small people who don't want to fight and a big guy who does and call the police or do something. Yeah. I'd never seen the cops get called on a fight. I, a guy jumped in my cousin's window
Starting point is 02:05:44 one time and there was a crowd trying to jump him and he started driving with the guy halfway in his window and ran the guy into a mailbox. Like his ass and hips ran into a mailbox, not fast. Ended up dragging him out of the car. Nobody got called, nobody called the cops. He couldn't get hurt.
Starting point is 02:05:59 I mean, he didn't go back to check. Oh, okay. He had shown up to fight somebody and instead he was met with a mob of people to beat him up. You know how some people have like stare off in the space when they're just like, you know, in their own head. Apparently he has a look on his face when he's doing that that says, fuck you. And so he'll be pumping gas and he'll be somebody be like, fuck your problem. He's like, me? It's like all the time. Like I've seen it happen. That and you
Starting point is 02:06:36 know, he likes pussy too much, or at least he used to. Last time I was around him, he was always fucking with somebody's girlfriend and there would be an attack. There'd be a fight over that he was his truck was always ended up like beaten up with a hammer while he was in bed asleep or sugar in the gas tank or tire slash. You know, a lot of enemies. Oh yeah. Like, like, I think he's going to, I think I'm a Gator.
Starting point is 02:06:58 This is caveas. Gators slinging Dick all over a heart County over there. All of them, uh, every. Every woman in Hartwell apparently, and then having to fight over it. Just, he would be in a fight every fucking month that was scary, you know? Before we jump on to the next thing, we're gonna hear from a wonderful, wonderful sponsor,
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Starting point is 02:10:36 for highly attractive and successful men that only the hottest girls could get into or something. How's that going? hottest girls could get into or something. How's that going? Yeah. Yeah. So, man, I'm gonna unload all the details here. Yeah. So I thought I would take dating as serious as everything else in life
Starting point is 02:11:02 and spend some money and time on it. I can't believe I'm telling this. Thailand. I won't tell anyone. Well, cause I've done some anonymous interviews but I'll just go like it's the internet, whatever. Only everyone will know. So I wanted to do like, again,
Starting point is 02:11:28 if you start doing these thought exercises in life, and you're 80 years old, 90 years old, and you look back on your life, what would it be worth it to you to spend on potentially finding the one, or somebody who, even if it's not the one, somebody who takes up a meaningful part of your life, you have kids with and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:11:51 What is that value worth to you? And I was like, I'm going about this all wrong, risking all this on Bumble or Tinder or whatever. Shit, sorry. Military dog. Bumble or tender or whatever? Shit sorry military dog Yeah, it was the For those who are audio only like which one just freaked out was it the cute little baby dog or was the cute little baby dog or was it the little one right there? He's got like a Belgian Mao. He's got like maybe something else that looks like a Mao
Starting point is 02:12:28 mix or a shepherd mix and then he's got like a little cutesy lap dog that an old lady would have. It is! It's the Cavalier, yeah. Yeah, that's a great one. I love those. Jesus. Yeah, sorry. Sorry about that. I'm eating tacos. I got some brie tacos in here and there. The little one is a little aggressive when it comes to food and stuff. But anyways, sorry. So I was like, I'll take this seriously. What is it worth to me? And I just, man, I was spending again
Starting point is 02:12:59 in this assessment of screen time in my life. I don't talk about this in the book. But looking at the amount of screen time in my life. I don't talk about this in the book, but looking at the amount of screen time I was spending on dating apps, I was like, oh my God. And this is yielding nothing for me far as dates and stuff like that. So I started looking into matchmakers, other dating apps. There's like a blush, which is kind of like a douchy way of putting it is like it's like Raya in a lot of ways where
Starting point is 02:13:30 people they have to be vetted to get in. But there's also a matchmaking component to it where you can have matchmaking services for a fee associated with it. Also try different matchmakers locally and nationally because I want it for me, it was about shots on goal and trying to meet as many people as possible to find somebody who's- It always is.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Right, yeah, right. And it's really weird because it did end up meeting somebody and it like just clicked. I'm like, oh my God, that she is just an amazing human being. Like extremely sweet, like just counterbalanced to my tilt in so many different ways. Just so sweet.
Starting point is 02:14:18 I don't know how to explain it other than I've heard people say, when you know, you know before. And I'm like, oh my god, that's the only way I could describe it. Because again, there were so many people in these processes that on paper should have worked. I'm going to try not to give out too many specifics about the individuals. But I would not be surprised if you told me
Starting point is 02:14:41 that one of these organizations was a front for intelligence in some way, shape or form, because the people that they were setting me up with, like one I swear, she, she could have been a knock, like multiple passports, extremely wealthy family worked in a non official cover. Okay. Typically, you know, associated with people who work in intelligence in some way, shape or form. There, and their roles vary and whatnot, but multiple
Starting point is 02:15:14 passports made substantial amount of money in oil. No, no. That's a telltale. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, the FBI loves recruiting from that group. Interesting. Why a lot of boxes? Why? I didn't know. What do you? I don't remember that they were talking about. There's a bunch of things. But but I'll find the article that Okay, I remember there was this checklist of things that they look for in an
Starting point is 02:15:42 agent. And it's like, They get halfway there by picking a Mormon Yeah, I mean it was so we we went on we went on some dates and everything it was you know She was fantastic like, you know extremely attractive and everything, but it just didn't feel right in that sense didn't work out another Again, I can't I can't I can't really say what her role was but she was in She looked like a supermodel And I can't really say what her role was, but she was in, she looked like a supermodel. And on paper would be attracted most people to her, but because she was very much a peer to me
Starting point is 02:16:18 and we'll say the tech sector and artificial intelligence and specifically the military or the military industrial complex in a greater sense. I was like, this isn't even remotely attractive to me. But if you were, because it's like, oh, this is totally an amazing human being that I would go hang out with. But that doesn't attract me in any way, shape or form.
Starting point is 02:16:48 And so, you know, that was a- Who could have been Jack Ryan? It could have been a very late. I mean, that was a fairly high end service that was a substantial amount of money. And, you know, I found that again, it was just a numbers game in a lot of ways that where you met the woman that you think is pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:17:10 No. So I, again, like, I don't want to dox her, uh, because I'm, um, you know, fairly private about these things over the years, like everyone I've ever dated. I never even really publicly, uh, showed them online or anything like that. But, um, it was through hinge, funny enough. Good one. And and and so the the funny thing about hinge was and I didn't even realize until after the fact when I talked to some people, they thought that I was I was fake. Like it was a catfishing profile. I'm like,
Starting point is 02:17:38 of all the people somebody could catfish with, why the fuck would they choose me? Like, I'm not that attractive. Like, I'm not that successful. Like, I mean, like, why wouldn't you catfish somebody else with somebody else? But anyways, the way I found using hinge as a successful thing, at least for me, was paying for the the upgraded service so that you could see the people who have liked you. And instead of spending time swiping, I kind of use that as a queue of people to reach out to directly if they had it in their bio so that I could reach out to them on Instagram. They could see it was legitimately me
Starting point is 02:18:25 and not somebody catfishing. Be like, hey, what's going on? Do you wanna go out sometime or something like that? That way we don't have to exchange numbers or anything like that. And that way, you know, but I didn't wanna date like a bunch of chicks at one time. Like, cause it just gets confusing
Starting point is 02:18:42 like people's stories and stuff like that. I felt like it's easier to like, Hey, let's, let's see initial impressions. Do we want to date some more or whatever? If not, then move on. Um, and so isn't that, that is a little bit fun. Like when you're early in the dating process again, being like, like every day, you know, like, all right, I get to go down like the list of hits. Like the ones I know are winners.
Starting point is 02:19:05 Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. And you, and all of a sudden you're working out a tight five cause you're doing this every night and now you've got your stories formatted and you've got your punch lines time just right. Well, you're like, yeah, I am so funny. Everyone likes that joke.
Starting point is 02:19:22 Everyone likes it. Disappeared. She disappeared in my queue. Um, because I was, I was taking too much time, like, you know, like in between, cause you know, you maybe go on like one day to, um, uh, a week or something like that, and then, uh, you know, that's four dates or whatever is a month, you know, she had already like found somebody whatever. So I like reached out on Instagram. And she was like, Oh, no, I'm I'm
Starting point is 02:19:50 flattered. I appreciate it. But I actually deleted my, my account. I'm dating somebody now and I don't want to date multiple people or anything like that. And that whole, you know, process. I really respected that. I thought that was awesome. I was like, Oh, cool. That's great. I'm super excited. Awesome. Thanks for letting me know. And yeah, fucking heart is broken. But then like, to her Wi Fi.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Drone to her house. I sent her a picture of my dad, my dog being sad and being like, look what you've done. I sent her a picture of her. Yeah, oh Jesus. Yeah, it's like all AI stuff is like, here's you. No, but it was the holidays. It was the holidays. So I was like, ah, you know what, screw it. People are gonna be traveling and stuff like that. Whatever I like, I'm like, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 02:20:37 I'm gonna focus on, you know, work on this other stuff anyways. And then she reached back out to me like a month or two later. It's like, hey, look, if you're still open to go out sometime, I didn't pan out with this other person or whatever. And I was like, Yeah, sure. And honestly, it was like, so perfect in so many ways. I didn't believe it. Like, I thought that there had to be something off like, like, what's the catch or whatever? Like, she's an amazing human being. Yeah, she's all. And she doesn't work for like Lockheed Martin, which is big for you. No, no. Does she live in like easy drive distance? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:13 Oh cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, that's great. Like I met her family and stuff, just all around amazing human beings. Like, you know, extremely. when was your first date roughly? December okay. Okay, so it's been a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah This guy praising this woman ten days in
Starting point is 02:21:37 Yeah Yeah, yeah The FBI and CIA recruit heavily from the Mormon population because they're usually cheaper to do security clearances on. They often speak another language from their mission trips and they usually have a low risk lifestyle. So you don't have to worry about their being, having their gambling or their drug abuse, et cetera, turned against them by a foreign actor.
Starting point is 02:21:58 Interesting. This doesn't make sense. And the, you know, the Patriots from the Midwest. It's a good group to cut from. Well, not Midwest. Utah? Utahots from the Midwest. It's a good group to cut from. Well, not Midwest. Utah? Utah's not the Midwest. It's not, it is to me, I'm from Georgia.
Starting point is 02:22:11 No, I'm there in the middle of the West. That's the Middle East. No, I'm someone from the Midwest, Utah. They're not in the club. It does feel like the middle of the West. I feel like Midwest is actually Central America and they're poorly named. Central America, now it's gonna be very confusing. Central America and they're poorly named. Central America? Now it's going to be American-
Starting point is 02:22:26 Central America, the Middle East? Yeah, New Jersey's in the Middle East. Yeah. Well, what is, is that really what you think beyond the East coast? Do you think of Utah as like a Midwest state? Maybe not like culturally, but geographically, yeah, it's in the middle of the West. You know, I, they all kind of stack up over there just because you're another 200 miles to the left.
Starting point is 02:22:50 I don't put you in a new category. You're not exactly Western to me. What is their category? They mountain state. Yeah, they gotta be a mountain state. Like they're, I think them in Colorado had the most mountains, right? That's where all the best skiing is. Dude, the ground is 5,000 feet high there.
Starting point is 02:23:07 It's fucking ridiculous. California has the most mountains, right? I hate being in high altitude. Oh, I don't know. I don't know about, I just don't think of California for skiing though. That's never the thing in my head. I always think in Utah, I just literally go from San Diego all the way up through the north.
Starting point is 02:23:27 I don't know. There probably is great skiing there. I don't know. But you got Tahoe, Big Bear, not necessarily great skiing, but you have skiing. I do like people will say Ohio is the Midwest. And that seems kind of out there. It's like that's so far east, like that touches Pennsylvania. That can't be part of the there. It's like that's so far East. Like that touches Pennsylvania. That can't be part of the Midwest. Cause if that's in the Midwest. It touches the Great Lakes. Okay, so Pennsylvania is in the Midwest
Starting point is 02:23:56 and you know what else is in the Midwest is Western New York. Western New York, yeah. Parts of Maryland. Maryland does not touch the Great Lakes. No, no, they touch West Virginia, which touches Ohio, which is right on the mission. Technically Pennsylvania borders Canada-ish. I remember the first Yankee I met as a kid, one of my buddies, his cousin from Maryland came down and he called kof pop And we didn't talk to him after that
Starting point is 02:24:29 Yeah, I don't I don't like we were all on Lake Hartwell like out there I don't know having mudfights and this motherfuckers. I'm thirsty Is there a pop and we all looked at him like he just said you take your cool flag and get out of here, sir Nobody wanted to talk to garroth anymore if you're cultured it's always been soda Take your cool flag and get out of here, sir. That was it. That was it. Yeah. Nobody. Nobody wanted to talk to Gareth anymore. If you're cultured, it's always been soda. It's not Coke. It's not pop.
Starting point is 02:24:51 I was going to ask, do people call non-coke, non-coke, Coke there? Like if there was a Pepsi, would they call it a Coke? Yeah, see, there's a really good, like diagram that shows where people call soda Coke and soda soda and pop pop and so on and so forth. But in the southeast, Coke is a big one for just it's a good idea to have a big one. I mean, I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one.
Starting point is 02:25:07 I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one.
Starting point is 02:25:15 I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one.
Starting point is 02:25:23 I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. I think it's a good idea to have a big one. versus 18 wheelers versus MIs or fireflies versus lightning bugs. Yeah. Wow. Look at that. The, use the one I put, Zach, cause it's like a heat map. They claim North Carolina calls it,
Starting point is 02:25:37 what is that? A little soda, a little nothing? Or is that soft drink? Soft drink, yeah. Is it yellow? Soft drink? I'm going at full screen. I don't see any yellow.
Starting point is 02:25:46 Maybe Texas panhandle. Nobody says soft drink. What is the most Southern part of the panhandle is the Oklahoma part, right? That'd be El Paso, right? But like, what is the, well, I guess maybe Amarillo and yeah. Up from San Antonio. Anyway, look at the brave St. Louisans battling back against the pop hoard soda.
Starting point is 02:26:13 Look, you can see for Chicago is like right there. Yeah. Well, Chicago is a little south of that, but it's interesting that George is not more because that's wisconsin that's milwaukee i think right i'm looking at illinois uh and and that big red splotch that that moves from it into missouri right there that's chicago right no that's st louis it's st louis oh chicago is yep oh look at that zach knows chicago you're right because the great lakes there i remember
Starting point is 02:26:41 that milwaukee north of chicago is that the red. I guess Milwaukee, because in my head I was like, well, what's another city? Wisconsin, Madison geography. Yeah. Geography. People love it. They say, talk about maps more. Talk about things. Big contingent of cartographers in the audience and they just jerk it to this talk. They said, talk about dialect maps. Zach, pull up more dialect. I want to see the semi one, the big rig, the 18 wheeler.
Starting point is 02:27:12 Oh yeah. What do you call those? All sound right to me. Like if I hear someone say a big rig or a semi, like. We say 18 wheeler. I grew up saying 18 wheeler. 18 wheeler sounds correct. I grew up saying tractor trailer,
Starting point is 02:27:24 although that sounds juvenile to me. I might say that too. I grew up saying wheeler sounds correct. I grew up saying tractor trailer, although that sounds juvenile to me I might say that too. I said them all I can't think of which one really hits home the most to like 15 year old southern Kyle semi is what we'd say here. Yeah, am I is what I say currently I feel like that's what grown-ups say mix them all together. That's a grown-up saying Yeah tractor trailer feels childish to me. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, it's just Northeast. The semi-master race conquering. And then Florida. Nobody lives in the blue states there. Well, there's land. Most of the people. No, I think most people are in there. 18 Wheeler. That's solid too. Well, Alabama Alabama Alabama's to blame for that the band
Starting point is 02:28:06 They're a light there to blame for a lot. Yeah What name one bad thing roll on 18 Wheeler Birmingham The the federal penitentiary they have there that place Birmingham I've never been It took a second. Yeah. Honestly, it was great. I could have asked for a nicer prison to stay in it as far as like the facilities and the air conditioning. I have no complaints. Like I would have, it would have been nice if there were pillows, maybe a thicker mattress, but that shower pressure, that hot water, the, you know, the facilities were wonderful. It was, It was the hottest summer in memory.
Starting point is 02:28:47 It was getting up to triple digits and they had these bad ass air conditioners. And when they broke down one day, the crew was there at 10 a.m. on the roof, like getting those things working again. I was so thankful for that. That was one of my, besides rape, my biggest fear going in was not having AC
Starting point is 02:29:03 during what was gonna be a incredibly hot summer in the South. Free FBS Russia. You'd be around a bunch of other men and so if you're going to be getting stinky they're going to be getting stinky and now everything's gross. Oh yeah. You're asshole for being stinky. Nobody is stinky. Well I wasn't meaning like out of negligence. I was meaning like if the AC didn't work and it's like, you know, you can't shower all day. You can. If you think that you, if you, if you're stinking around those people, share it, it's not like working with a stinky guy.
Starting point is 02:29:33 It's like having a stinky guy in the bunk bed with you and across from you and in the TV room. And he's always going to be dirty touching the common items like the microwave, the TV remotes, the chairs that we all share. This is all of our houses that we all live in. And if you disrespect your shit, you disrespect my shit. And my little bubble of air is part of my shit. So people will get fucked up for being stinky.
Starting point is 02:29:56 They will. How did Shower Times work? Could you just walk in this tower? Anytime. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big open, there's no doors. There's just like, you know, you walk around
Starting point is 02:30:07 into the corner of the building and there's the like bathroom facility and there's, I don't know, maybe four or five sinks, maybe three or four or five stalls with doors. I don't think there were urinals, but there might've been. Yeah, maybe there were two or three urinals. It's kind of hard to remember. And then off to the side, there was the showers
Starting point is 02:30:24 that were in a row together just cup Concrete block cubbies, you know, just like you've seen in the movies But we're with dividers and shower curtains behind you like everyone eat at the same time three times a day No, not at all they whenever they wanted mostly like meals were served on a schedule in the in the kitchen like if you you want to go to the chow hall, but a lot of people eat out of commissary. Like if you've got the money to do commissary, and that's what I did. I went to the chow hall maybe twice the whole time I was there.
Starting point is 02:30:58 And I mostly ate, I was trying to lose weight. So I was mostly eating that chili that I got out of the commissary and read my Harry Potter books and walking around the track That's that's about all I did and slept. Did you get a vibe for the food? Was it good bad awful? It's good. It was like it was better than high school food Right you can two out of ten like fried chicken day. It was like yeah This was like if I made fried chicken, it looked like this. This is like full-size like drumsticks and eyes and it's free Yeah, but you opted against it most of the time and it looked like this. This is like full size, like drumsticks and thighs. It's free? Yeah. But you opted against it most of the time.
Starting point is 02:31:28 Did you feel unsafe or just not? I didn't wanna like go in there. I didn't wanna go, I didn't wanna get up and go. Like it was just, it was as little as that. And also I was eating every other day, 800 calories. So I wasn't gonna go in there and eat good food. I was gonna stay on my chili diet Which you know probably led to that constipation issue I had
Starting point is 02:31:54 Yeah, I needed an oatmeal diet That might have helped I probably needed a little more fiber although you would think chili would do the trick the beans I was I was a loaded cannon. It was weeks. I was so close to going and asking the nurse for help. It's like a musket rifle just getting loaded and loaded and loaded and never fired. You ever get a Red Ryder BB gun and just keep cocking that motherfucker? You're like 175, 176. It's got recoil of like a 308 when you shoot.
Starting point is 02:32:27 As a kid, I thought it would. I've never, I think I shot one through a chronometer one time and it, it's real diminishing results after a while. You know, you're not, you're not adding much pressure and definitely not getting any more velocity. All right. Well, uh, here, I know, I know the people who watch the videos might not appreciate this,
Starting point is 02:32:49 but I was stuffing my face with tacos when Taylor was doing the read. But if you wanna see, I'm actually in the studio right now, and I was trying to put some stuff together for you guys for lock and load, because one of the things I want to do is just like make a bunch of commercials for friends and their stuff and what they got going on and everything. So I've been doing a bunch of slow-mo shots
Starting point is 02:33:14 and everything to kind of- Where is this going? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went like, and like Derek sent me the, I guess the blue raspberry energy drink that they got in the pre-workout and stuff now and everything too. So I'm like, fuck it dude, man.
Starting point is 02:33:30 I like anybody who does that, like, yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna show you guys some love. So I put together a little commercial. I'm kind of curious y'all's feedback cause this is a little short notice. I haven't really had time to color grade all of this and everything and get some good music. But I think you'll get the point.
Starting point is 02:33:51 There's anything else that you might wanna see. Audio, turn it up, let's hear it. ["Sausage of the Sea"] ["Sausage of the Sea"] ["Sausage of the Sea"] ["Sausage of the Sea"] So I was like, what, what, um, what could I do that conveys it without actually showing it? So like ropes, doing battle ropes,
Starting point is 02:34:34 the emoji, the eggplant emoji and rain. And then I was like, how can I convey busting a nut? So using like the nutcracker or like the hammer, I'll probably pull one of those out, but then like music, I need to figure that out. But if there's anything you guys wanna see in there, just let me know and I'll put all this together and use it for whatever.
Starting point is 02:34:55 That's fun, I like that, I appreciate it. Yeah. I've been so tempted to get that AI video tool. Yeah. I think I'm gonna get it. Like I said, it's $250 a month, but I think it might be fun to fuck around with. And I was playing poker let yesterday and want to fucking roll. And then I played today and one more. I'm on a real hot streak. And then I dominated in code names yesterday when I'm defeated. It's just
Starting point is 02:35:21 everything's coming up Kyle Taylor. Are you sure you were undefeated in Codenames yesterday? Yes, I'm sure I was undefeated. Yeah. It's a word game we play with our fans in our Patreon Discord. So it's like us and 20 other guys playing this word game. Yeah, it's like a word association inference game. It's very, very fun. It's a good social game because most of it is like verbal contributions and which then kind of becomes insults if you have a bad idea or rarer praise if you have a good idea. We have two different guys who are dyslexic and they're like, me, me, me, I want to give the clues. And it's like, oh, fuck, here we go again.
Starting point is 02:36:13 He's literally just like, and he's the captain of our word team. Uh, so that gets a little, and he can't be bullied out of it. I respect that so much. No matter what he could have, he like an oh for eight showing, he could be getting ripped by everyone. He could not care less. He'll click right back in next time and be like, and in his head, he's, you've heard his rationalization, right? Where he's like, if any of you guys is like, any of these guys bullying me, if they were around me, I could like tear their arms off if I wanted to.
Starting point is 02:36:39 He's the super strong man kind of guy. He's a big dude. DMT lover, weightlifting aficionado, uh, code names. I would say novice. I would say maybe, maybe, maybe apprentice would be, I don't know if he's a journeyman. I mean, he's learning. Yeah. I'm not sure if I'm going to put them on the line yet, but, but it's, it's, it's entertainment value is second to none because he can't, he can't read or write good.
Starting point is 02:37:06 And those are the core principles of the game. It's like, it's like a, it's like hurdles with a one legged man or something. It's, I mean, it's, it's a shit show. It's fun to, it's fun to engage in. We had a good hangout. We got, we got a new girl. Um, I'll go, uh, and girl and or two, a girl or two is a good way to put it. We got a new girl or two and then rev showed up dressed as Felix the faggot.
Starting point is 02:37:31 Yeah, as Taylor point coined his new character name, which had me had me laughing all fucking night. This guy shows up. He this guy shows up cosplaying like Felix the Fox, which is a character I'm not familiar with. I thought he was a cat. I had five years, I believe. And he did say he was Felix the Fox,
Starting point is 02:37:53 but he also, he had like a crop top and I think some fake titties in and he's not an effeminate looking man. So he wasn't really pulling it off in my humble opinion. No, he didn't even shave, right? He didn't shave, no. I don't think he shaved. Well, but Felix the Fox is a hairy guy too.
Starting point is 02:38:09 So, our girl. I don't know if Felix the Fox is a girl, but he made- Well, I liked how much of a kick you got out of Felix the Faggot. You did. Dude, I was rolling when you said it so fast. It was so funny. Yeah, we had a good hangout. Yeah, it was fun. If you add Rev, then definitely two whole girls. So that was interesting. We're having to do some like back of the napkin math on how many. Yeah, between the three of them, two solid women.
Starting point is 02:38:39 Okay. Yeah, I mean, I mean, girls are girls, right, Taylor? Sure. No, not really though. Soon they'll be robot. Not good in the truest sense now. Titties I disagree with. I don't like people saying fake tits. I always said if you could touch them, they're real or they're real enough. Yeah, I'm totally on board with that. The only like reprehensible thing to me is like a breast reduction.
Starting point is 02:39:03 Have you got have you met a girl with some fake titties before? Have you ogled and groped a fake titty before, Taylor? Yeah, and they're fine. It's all good. They're usually fine. They're usually fine. Yeah, especially like if they're under the, if she's got like, if she had big titties to start with,
Starting point is 02:39:18 like if she went from a C to a D, you can't really tell unless you'd like bite the shit out of them. Because there's still, because she had a natural amount of meat to kind of Yeah, yeah, exactly. make that transition. But if you're like Paris Hilton level skinny,
Starting point is 02:39:34 and you want big old knockers, it's gonna be so tight. It's gonna look like bodybuilder skin. And there's not enough like natural boob, boobage. You see the ripples in the implant when the skin is too tight, especially at the bottom, it like the skin like ripples and you can see it wrapping around
Starting point is 02:39:52 and hugging the implant and it looks funky. But in general, like titties are titties. Yeah, the technology is there folks. Like this isn't, you know, 1965 when they were really experimenting with it. They've got it down. They've got the special saline bags. They're not saline, what is it, silicone now?
Starting point is 02:40:10 So what's the next? All right, so we've already got a surgery to make dudes taller, make girls like, we're boobier. We do surgeries on our penises and our vaginas to make them prettier. We do, I already said the bone extending. Penis surgeries? I saw a guy go from five to two.
Starting point is 02:40:27 You might have been talking about circumcision. Yeah, circumcision, that surgery that most of the world does to make their dicks prettier. Or at least most of the civilized world. It's actually not even close. It's actually not even vaguely close. It's the surgery that all the cool people have. How is it not close, Taylor?
Starting point is 02:40:42 It is a surgery that people do to their privates to be more attractive I'm Saying just objectively. It's not a it's not a majority thing most of the world doesn't do it You sure that's the party was positive. Yeah all the Christians Jews and and That doesn't get to most of the world I don't think all the Christians do it Europeans don't do it the Asians don't if Asia or if China and India don't think all the Christians do it. Europeans don't do it, the Asians don't do it. If Asia or if China and India don't do it, it's already most of the people. I read on Reddit all the time where there's an Indian or Southeast Asian dude, he's like 25 and he's getting an adult circumcision and they're talking about how it's the most excruciating elective surgery that you can get. Why? Why would you get it? If you're already a grown up and you've
Starting point is 02:41:26 you're already there. Because women say EW, Taylor. Because women say EW. They're not all pretty and perfect. Some of them don't open all the way up. Some of them don't work right. Okay, if it doesn't open all the way up, now you like that makes
Starting point is 02:41:42 sense. You need to fix something. But getting your dick skin chopped off because some whore is gonna like it marginally more dude I get my face cut off if it got me more pussy what do you call it? brother you you send green texts I don't text people who uses text anymore I'm on I I'm on signal and fucking Snapchat. Like I don't I don't use that shit. Instagram. I don't use text. Text anybody. And then look, anyone who's gonna look down on my Android lifestyle,
Starting point is 02:42:16 all I hear about is is I don't get I don't get the iPhone community. I don't get the Apple fucking ecosystem. I don't want to be part of it. Android's got the same shit. And I think that I think it's better. I just think it's better. And I don't get the Apple fucking ecosystem. I don't want to be part of it. Android's got the same shit. And I think I think it's better. I just think it's better. And I don't care if it's not. How much better is the Apple product? It's not any 10%? No. Is it 5% better? No. Like it might you might be like, Oh, my camera sensor actually does this. Are you a photographer? Are you a fucking professional photographer? If you are, why don't you have a real camera? You know, I don't want to hear Security issues all I the fappening was the whole thing was iPhone
Starting point is 02:42:50 I don't know how they got a girl to buy their product after everybody saw Jennifer What's her name's but Lawrence? I was doing Lawrence's. Oh, should I had an Apple logo right on the left? She's I don't know why anyone would buy that product. product. All I hear is about security issues in the Apple ecosystem. I want no part of it. And I don't care about security. I care about affordability. Because the idea of that trendy, like consumerism of every year,
Starting point is 02:43:13 I need another $1,200 piece of plastic that's a little bit better than the last one. I want my $700 Google Pixel that does everything I want and more. And I'll use it for three years until I drop it. And I'm not gonna put a case on it and I'll get a new one. Last time I got a phone, I had been on the Samsung S4 or something for fucking years. Like I had a phone for like seven years and which is a long time to have a phone in modern day. And then when I went back, because of the way the upgrade thing
Starting point is 02:43:42 worked, it was iPhone or Android and they were both the same price. And I had been getting hounded by my friends for sending green texts for years. And I'm like, all right, let's, let's go iPhone this time around to see if there really is a difference, no discernible difference. Maybe it's the way I use my phone. I use like the internet search maps, Twitter, and Amazon if I'm on the go and I need to look for something that I forgot to buy. Even then, if I'm using Amazon, I'm usually going to use my laptop or my PC here because
Starting point is 02:44:15 if I go on my phone too much, I'm just impulse buy nonsense. But there is no distinguishable difference. The Samsung and the iPhone, they're the same thing. The integration with the watches and the other stuff, like I like my Samsung watch. I don't, I've looked at Apple watches and I'm sure they do everything, but it looks like a plastic toy to me.
Starting point is 02:44:33 And my Samsung watch looks like a nice chronograph watch. Which ecosystem has more apps? I can't imagine there's a discernible difference. Oh, I don't know. I think the main differences are going to be like your AI assistant, your maps that they use and what new tools that that's providing. All the apps I use are going to be like both of them are going to have ESPN and YouTube. There's one paramotor flying app that's really important to me called fly sky high.
Starting point is 02:45:05 And I recognize this is an argument that works on nobody else, but for me it's iPhone and that's why. Oh, it's you can't even get it on Samsung. Yeah. The everyone begs the author to port it. And he's like, no, it doesn't make enough money for me to maintain two versions. So the frustrating thing for me is you have Apple using chat GPT as a wrapper for Apple intelligence essentially in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 02:45:34 And there's again, there's not a lot of conversation as to transparency around user data. And they say, oh yeah, no, they have their big keynote presentation around how they're encrypting prompts and all these other different things. But I feel like this is one of those things that we're going to find out five years from now that is like, oh, well, of course, there was an exploit that every single time you prompted something that OpenAI was able to stockpile that and associate it with some type of user ID or something like that. Now all your sensitive information,
Starting point is 02:46:09 like photos is a great example. You can search photos and like people are like, well, they don't really think about the machine learning and the intelligence around just being able to search photos is fairly sophisticated. Like if you type in, I don't know, I think I typed in something like WASP or something, because I was looking through some photos first,
Starting point is 02:46:32 some tarantula hawks in my photos and it found them. And I'm like, being able to search an image like that when it's not on the like just metadata around it like there's a massive security concern. I actually just I got really frustrated because Apple Closes so much of their stuff off like with iTunes and everything now with Apple music and everything. I was so pissed I like literally you're gonna get a kick out of this Because you know I go hard in the paint on just about everything that I do. I was so frustrated because I was like, how do I, I listen to music,
Starting point is 02:47:10 I'm getting rid of all my streaming services and I bought like a ton of like MP3 players or digital audio players like the Hi-Fi Walker, like got these Chinese old iPod shuffle knockoffs and stuff like that. And another thing that I'm going back to is Blu-rays because a lot of these streaming services, they stream 720 video and not 4K
Starting point is 02:47:42 and it's like, well, screw this. I'm not paying a monthly subscription for this. I'll get a cheap blu ray. I'll rip I'll rip it because you're allowed to make a digital copy of it. And I'll put all this stuff on my servers and I'll just get rid of all these streaming services and stuff like that. And again, this is kind of part of the process that I went through is like, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna be convicted enough to purchase something, it's not going to be
Starting point is 02:48:04 just easily gratifying, there's not gonna be just easily gratifying. There's gonna be some effort in it for me. We use Plex for almost, we're replacing, I've replaced almost all my streaming paid services with a Plex server. And really, and just, like one of the things that pushed me toward that is obviously the oligopoly that has been created in the streaming world.
Starting point is 02:48:27 We worked backwards from the problem. We had this situation with cable where you had to get the piece, massive package full of shit you didn't want. If you just wanted to watch your teams play and watch a movie and it was way too expensive. And then we split everything up and you could bundle how you wanted.
Starting point is 02:48:43 And now we've gone back the other way where you'd feel like you really do need Hey look, Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney Plus, HBO. If you're just gonna know what's going on in pop culture, you need all of those. In Paramount, Do you wanna watch sports? Peacock, I have, you know, and so just going from,
Starting point is 02:48:58 that upset me that you needed them all, but it's whatever. But then the quality of the product I felt started going down. The production cycles went down. All of a sudden it's a year and a half between seasons and it's like I've got Apple TV for your show and you can't crank me out a season every 18 months even and I want to binge it stop making it a fucking weekly episode I want to get into and then the other thing is the the episodes that are being being removed from 90s and early 2000s
Starting point is 02:49:27 sitcoms. There's about eight episodes of South Park that you're no longer able to watch. There's about four, five or six episodes of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia you're no longer to watch. For a while you couldn't watch the Dungeons and Dragons episode of Community because the Asian character comes cosplaying as a dark elf with black face on and it's like black as night blackface and it's a funny gag and they all rip him about it like that ain't cool. That's not right. You know, it's they turned it on.
Starting point is 02:49:55 Nobody like goes haha. Look at you. Like they don't they don't think it's fun. They make fun of it. But that episode was unable to be viewed for a while. But they get back to the right to repair, right? So nobody's buying anything, you're licensing stuff. And so when you pay, it blows my mind like you can pay twenty dollars on Apple TV for a new movie whenever it comes out. And you're technically licensing it to keep it in the Apple ecosystem so that you can watch it relatively easy across devices at a shitty resolution.
Starting point is 02:50:25 Or you can buy it on Blu-ray used for probably like five bucks and get the borderline 4k resolution, put it on your server, and then stream it whenever you want to any of your devices at any resolution. You can skip buying it if you wanted. Yeah, that's exactly it. And then if you wanna binge a series, you can do that as well. UFC's a good example. You wanna talk about a business that I love. They call it pirating or smuggling, is that what they call it?
Starting point is 02:50:57 The kids say a thing, I wouldn't know much. Yeah, I didn't do that all the time. UFC's deal with ESPN is running out, and I don't think ESPN's happy with it. If you don't know how it's structured, essentially you have to pay a monthly fee for ESPN Plus or whatever and that gives you the privilege of being able to even access a pay-per-view. It's the only way to get to it. That's in North America, USA anyway. So you're paying
Starting point is 02:51:16 like $15, $18 a month, something like that just for the privilege of seeing a pay-per-view on your screen and then to buy it they are $80 each now and the product has everyone agrees diminished gotten worse and they do a ton of these cards in the Apex Center which is the building they own in Vegas. It's a soulless warehouse with echoes. It's not the environment you want to see a prize fight take place in and it's embarrassing when fighters like retire there or when, you know, good fighters that you like have to fight there.
Starting point is 02:51:49 It's a bad look for a company that's clearing like four or six billion a year or something crazy. Like they've got plenty of money. They could do whatever they wanted. Well, that deal is running out. ESPN, the way that deal works by the way, ESPN, I think, I think there's a 300,000 number.
Starting point is 02:52:08 I think that they have to get 300,000 pay-per-views per show to break even with ESPN or something like that. They're not though. They're not averaging 300,000 per show. So ESPN has lost money on this deal. The hope is, for for me anyway that a Netflix or an Amazon Prime steps in and does limited commercial breaks And they present the thing to you without shoving modello down my throat and without me paying all those extra fees and no pay-per-view A no pay-per-view model on Netflix would make that sport explode
Starting point is 02:52:43 Yeah, I hope that that Netflix drops some big money and they become the, because they're doing the WWE thing, right? They're already partnered with them. They're owned by the same company. They had the same owner, WWE and the UFC. There's no reason why they couldn't couple all that together. Bigger than what? Between those two properties, like, I know so little about WWE. It could be 10 billion, a hundred billion, two billion properties like. I don't know. I don't cause I don't, I know so little about WWE. It could be 10 billion, a hundred billion, two billion a year. I genuinely don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 02:53:11 I was just curious. UFC has been every year UFC has been making these leaps and bounds for it. COVID was massive for them. UFC is global too. They were the only sports event in town. Oh, for sure. Well, they're trying to be, they're making head rows in Africa and India and Asia. They're building facilities around the world and they're trying to draw fighters from those untapped markets like India, China
Starting point is 02:53:31 Those markets that if you can get a star from there you get a lot of UFC is going to go backwards on their revenue model Though they're all they milk their product way too hard And a pay-per-view shouldn't have, I mean, what is it, 100 commercials in two hours? 200 commercials? That's wild. It is a crazy amount of commercials that I wouldn't accept on any other paid thing.
Starting point is 02:53:54 Single, double, triple whopper. I mean, stupid phone, there's so many commercials. And so there's the commercials, and then there's the stuff on the, there's the uniforms have a deal. The octagon itself is just covered with advertisements. And then it's a pay-per-view. And then as Kyle mentioned, you pay $15 a month, maybe,
Starting point is 02:54:17 something like that for the ability to pay 70 or $80 for the pay-per-view, 80. But I don't see a world. When you introduced me to the sport back in 15 years ago, 14 years ago, maybe even less, 55 a month. Or a fight, 55 a pay-per-view. Which felt fine for a good one, for sure. It feels expensive to me, right?
Starting point is 02:54:42 If you're an addict, it's worth it, I guess, which is where I was at the time. But it seems like too much. I wish it was 20. I wish it was the cost of a movie-ish. But 55, now 80 is wild. They're almost mandating that you go in there with a group of friends and split it four ways.
Starting point is 02:55:00 For 80, they should give you access, and then they should send you some collectibles from that fight. There should be some shit you get. It should be way more involved though too. There should be cameras integrated into the octagon and above and you should be able to select around it. It should be borderline, choose interactive or just let them curate it.
Starting point is 02:55:25 That'd be nice. Like the check hasn't changed at all. Where was it? How much do you think all those ads? It's changed a little. Like it's a little bit, I'm not phrasing it. If I were to pay you to watch these ads, how much would that be worth? I think a quarter, 25 cents maybe, right? To watch ads all night long. It's not a lot. So I can't imagine them saying,
Starting point is 02:55:51 ah, you know what? Forget about the $80. We'll have that many more quarters. No, they won't. They won't have that many more quarters. They can't go backwards. I thought, maybe I need to watch the video again to completely understand their their their financials
Starting point is 02:56:05 But it seemed like they don't care about the pay-per-view buys It doesn't factor into their money as much anymore ESPN wants them But they've are I think they've gotten a chunk from ESPN just a flat fee And and that's why the cards are so shitty now because they don't care if they sell them All right, I think they need to sell ESPN needs 300,000 buys per to break even That's how much cash I think they just paid to USC But the UFC system is set up that they could just dump garbage on ESPN and who cares if it makes money I follow well a Netflix model where like Netflix is like you're not getting enough impressions
Starting point is 02:56:38 Like we're not getting enough new subscribers You you need a car you got to get a Conor McGregor a Ronda Rousey You got to put on some real cards people aren't showing up for this or maybe or maybe they still wouldn't care I don't know but the way it's currently monetized the fan is the victim of the UFC not the beneficiary of entertainment is Netflix even the big guy future of streaming like They really don't make that much it's my second favorite service even now What's first YouTube? Oh They really don't make that much. It's my second favorite service. Even now. What's first YouTube.
Starting point is 02:57:10 Oh, oh, YouTube kicks out. I use YouTube, I think more than every other service combined, just cause I'll even start like some movie on Hulu and be 20 minutes in and be like, this sucks. You know who doesn't suck outdoor boys. Yeah. Yeah. Now he'll be back. He'll have a Jordan season. Unlimited DVR on YouTube TV is wild. Like being able to record, so unlimited DVR. So you record TV all you want.
Starting point is 02:57:39 And so like for me, even my morning routines optimized because I can turn on local weather and scrub through the news straight to the thing. And then boom, I'm done. I don't have to sit through anything. And there's so many really good advantages and like being able to scrub through with a YouTube TV. I love it.
Starting point is 02:57:59 Do you get sports on YouTube? Cause I don't think, I don't have YouTube TV. I have YouTube premium. So like, I don't have ads on YouTube, but I don't get any TV through it. So like, can you watch all the major sports? Because sports are so often just like, you'll buy something thinking you get it.
Starting point is 02:58:14 Like I've gotten like streaming services on my TV where it's like, oh, playoff hockey's on. Oh, none of these services have it. I have to sign up for a trial run of this in order to watch this game. And then in my head, it's on, oh, none of these services have it. I have to sign up for a trial run of this in order to watch this game. And then in my head, it's like, okay, well, I've got a trial run of the NHL thing now. And then you go to watch another game and it's like, oh no, idiot. Actually, moron, this game isn't based out of Edmonton like the one you bought. It's based out of Dallas. And so you now need Paramount Sports in order to get this one.
Starting point is 02:58:45 And it's like, you know what? I'm just going to, I'm just going to go to methstreams.com and steal the content like because streams crack streams or meth streams. One of those. I've never heard of meth. It's a methamphetamine reference, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:01 For it's just a sports streaming service. And it's like like obviously illegal. It's one of those things where like you have to click the play button a couple times before the. Unfamiliar with sites like this. I wouldn't know you get 12 viruses. You're looking for the tiny little X to take the ad off. You know, literally be on my laptop and I'll be like, nah,
Starting point is 02:59:25 I don't do anything on this computer. I guess technically there's a little bit of the bike in that square. Maybe. The clicked it. Yeah. But sports are the most annoying thing. Maybe NHL is more annoying than NBA or NFL with that, but it's such a fucking pain in the ass just to have all the games available. I don't know what the NHL is, but the NBA is terrible. I'm sure you'd feel the same way. Okay. Then it's probably the same setup NHL has.
Starting point is 02:59:59 But again, navigating all of the services is just such a pain in the dick for me in that the office actually the good place was a really good example like I love just watching some shows to wind down in the evening even though I've seen them a million times like the office or the good place and it'll shift from Netflix to this to that to you know Hulu or whatever and it's like dude like I've already paid for this so many times over like like why don't I? Just have it all and yeah, not have to deal with that That's why I have peacock is is for the office because if you don't know they
Starting point is 03:00:34 Every year for the last few years or every quarter. Maybe they've been releasing the extended versions for each season They did away eventually and now they're all out. And it turns what was like a 22 minute episode sometimes into a 45 minute episode. What like they like they added at least 20 percent more office that you've never seen before. It's it's cold opens that they didn't have time for. It's extra gags. And it's a lot of it's more bite of the biting humor and the foul language. So like, you know, there's more bitch, there's more piss, there's more ass,
Starting point is 03:01:09 there's more like of the dirtier jokes that they were like, ah, that's a little crass. You just got me to sign up for a peacock tonight. It's straight from the, although I think I read recently, that was the other one that that's why this was in my head. I think they removed the episode of The Office where they all have the cards on their head with the different races.
Starting point is 03:01:30 I think they removed that episode maybe. But yeah, the extended versions are great. Sometimes it's like, I know why you cut that joke. That wasn't a great joke, but I just like, I love those characters. I love that show so much. It's one of the things I've seen the most times over and over,
Starting point is 03:01:45 more even than probably Star Trek. So you watch season one over and over? If I'm introducing to somebody new, we'll go back to season one after we watched season two and three. You know, once you, I gotta get you to like Michael before I let you hate Michael, you know? He's not great in season one.
Starting point is 03:02:03 It wasn't working to quote the the YouTube doc that I watched about it. This Michael wasn't working because he's like a piece of shit. He's too much like the UK version. He's a he's a scumbag. But you know, they bring it around by the end and you understand Michael's. I had forgotten he was a scumbag. I just remember him being
Starting point is 03:02:28 He was racist sexist gropey Offensive mean spirited at times Yeah, it's too much But yeah peacocks got all those extended versions That's why I have peacock and I think along with that I get some like NFL shit on peacocks. It's it's a decent service Hmm and then Paramount Plus I have to have because they've got the entire Star Trek catalog So I gotta have can you not buy that I? Could but
Starting point is 03:02:57 Like eventually someday I'm hopeful that they remastered deep space 9 if ever do that, then I'll purchase their massive box set because it's, I think it's shot on film. The issue is that the special effects are in the wrong aspect ratio and they're crappy. And so you need Paramount to pump the money in to redo the special effects. And it needs that glossing over anyway. Like bringing it forward.
Starting point is 03:03:26 They did that to the original series a little. Like when they remastered the original series, they fixed some of the awful CGI from 1960s, you know, and it looks decent. So if they ever remaster it, I would do that. But it's just nice to have, it's not just one of them I wanna watch. There's like eight different Star Trek's
Starting point is 03:03:47 and all the Star Trek movies and the animated series from the 60s and 70s and all the new animated series and they're constantly coming out with, they came out with a movie not too long ago. There's lots of new Star Trek content and I like that shit, some of it. Apple TV. There was more stuff I actually wanted to watch of all the TV shows.
Starting point is 03:04:10 You need to watch Terminator 2. You don't need to be watching any TV shows. I mean TV shows though, like a nice epic television series that sucks me in and doesn't become horrible like that. Like that Japanese show. that would have been really neat if it didn't totally get off the rails. Watch Marco Polo, it's on Netflix. There's like two seasons, it's high budget.
Starting point is 03:04:31 They wasted tens of millions of dollars on it. Good actors. It's the story of- It's one of those shows where they ended it prematurely, right? Where it was like they had plans to go longer and then they had to do a quick wrap. It wraps up fine.
Starting point is 03:04:42 It wraps up fine. Like Rome, Rome was a great show. And then they just ended it. Not a good comparison. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so crushed and were hunting down the last of the royal family. It's a what happened? They ran out of money. Wrong. Put a beard on maybe Mark Anthony. Was that his name? Yeah. Mark, I was they might as well recast the actor. I had no idea that was the same person.
Starting point is 03:05:16 You look so similar. One of these episodes I'm going to shave and Woody's going to be like, how the hell did this what the fuck? Who's the guest? I feel like that's a really good question though. I'm gonna shave and Woody's gonna be like how the hell did that what the fuck Feel like that's a really good question though Taylor is like what shows do you feel like had very? Well one were written like they had them Like they were going to end it and had a satisfying end and like for me. I like the good place Four seasons, I felt like they ended it very well. The writing and the four season got really good.
Starting point is 03:05:50 Uh, but also, uh, Mr. Robot, I mean, I felt like it kind of got a little bit slow there, kind of like Breaking Bad did a little bit in the middle, um, but the last season where they know where they're going and how they're going to end it, the writing was so good, I felt like they ended it very Very well, I was thinking of two one You just said breaking bad ended properly and better costs all ended properly Doing five seasons of each one that's the opposite is deadwood deadwood's terrible deadwood has an awful ending
Starting point is 03:06:20 They ran out of money. They got canceled good until it is isn't I heard that about Dexter Like I said, that's a different scenario So Dexter was still like one of the biggest TV shows on on the air and they should they should have quit one in the fifth Season but they did like eight seasons of that shit in the final season he like gives into his incestuous love for his Dead sister and like it dude it gets so wacky it gets so bad and it was so good for a while but but on rewatch you realize it's just the same thing over and over like it's the same every season he finds a new fucking 45 year old to 70 year old adult man for to be his weirdo father figure that replaced the
Starting point is 03:07:04 delusions he has you You know, in the book, the lore is he's possessed by a demon. That checks. I didn't know there was a book. Yeah, there's books. Apparently, I didn't know until I like, you know, knew, I guess I didn't know when I was watching the show back in the day. But it's great. But like on rewatch, it's like, man, he does that every year he finds a new fucking gross weirdo that turns out to be a murderer but in a bad way and uh and he falls for them. I like his Hispanic friend. He always has a good attitude. Yeah, Batista. He couldn't know less about Dexter's private life. He just was the worst detective in the world. Really a genuinely bad detective but of the whole show he was the guy I would want to hang out with the most
Starting point is 03:07:46 Sure, the Asian guy the Asian guy in smaller Is there anything recent that you felt like was really, really good wrapped up nice? Oh, yes. Ted Lasso. Really? They're doing a fourth season, though. Well, OK, I may have to re-vote, but I agree with you, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:20 What do you got me to watch Ted Lasso? Maybe a year or two ago, I watched episode one. By the way, you remind me a little Ted Lasso, that incredible like never-ending well of positivity. Like that's that I was thinking about this yesterday. Someone asked me about you and I like sung your praises and I and I started thinking about later. I was like I should have said he's just Ted Lasso so I wouldn't have had to go on and pontificate that long. But Ted Lasso, I watched the first episode and it got me so down because he's this well of positivity and everybody's like either to his face being scummy
Starting point is 03:08:49 or behind his back being scummy. And then you get to the end and he's on the phone with his wife and he's like, what, yeah, you should come out here and visit. And it's great. They got the big old clock and it, I'm giving you that space. That's I know what I don't cry. I love you. No, you don't have to say it. And it's like, fuck. And he like gets off the phone with
Starting point is 03:09:16 her and he gets into this little bed and pulls the covers up to his chest and looks at the sky and goes and closes his eyes. He's like, fuck it, we're going again. And then like, he's bringing his boss who's conniving behind his back. She's only hired him to make a joke of him and ruin the club. She's hired a loser on purpose and she's at every corner, she's behind his back. She's hiring paparazzi to take photos of him
Starting point is 03:09:37 that make him look like he's fucking some girl that's the player's girlfriend. She's all behind his back and he's bringing her these cookies every day He's like and she's like you must tell me Where are you getting these biscuits that they're wonderful? He's like if I told you I wouldn't be able to bring you more on Monday Now would I? He's been baking them fucking cookies every night like he's been baking them motherfucking cookies every night for her
Starting point is 03:10:01 And it's just when I when I saw him baking them cookies, I started crying. I started crying at the end of every episode in season one except for maybe two I cried because it is he is so pure and good and kind and sweet. And he's surrounded by people who can't appreciate it and it upsets me and I want to be there to be the best. I've never seen it. I've heard people say it's good. I actually haven't seen it. No, he comes in. It's it's beautiful. I promise you. You watch this. I'm about to cry now. It's when I lived in LA, but I think I shouldn't it the way they put a wrapping on the end of it. It's the it's the book I'm talking about, you know, and the title of the book. And I'm just like, whoo, that Ted Lasso ended properly. Yeah, yeah. So when I was in LA, I was bartending back in the day when I first moved out there.
Starting point is 03:10:57 Brendan Hunt worked in the restaurant with me. So him and a few other people who were at Second City, I was going to the groundlings, but there are a bunch of sketch comedy actors working at this restaurant. I believe he's Coach Beard or something. Cool. Yeah, he's a good character.
Starting point is 03:11:20 That guy's very talented. Like every night. It's one of those shows where occasionally he'll show that he has other talents Okay, I like at the Towards the end of the maybe it's season four. He tells his backstory in a more complete way ride. Oh my gosh Moving pride. All right, I'll check it out So who is can I get it the UHD disks
Starting point is 03:11:46 or is it just on a streaming service like Peacock or something? It's on Apple TV. Fucking Apple is the one I can't get the UHDs on. I just need to log into a Plex server. The way I like my legal stuff on my TV, I run it through a Roku and I've got like a Roku app. So if I want to find something, I don't know where it is. I can search it and it
Starting point is 03:12:08 aggregates all the services that I own together and I can find it. That's probably not used to anyone. But I like doing that a lot, but also like Flex server will you know serve you well. Because I don't want to pay $25 to watch a TV show that I'm gonna because I binged that thing in a week or two. I can't wow I have crowds crying every day. to watch a TV show that I'm going to because I binged that thing in a week or two. I can. Wow. I have crowds crying every day. But like a girlfriend come home, I'm like, hey, hey, I was a good wife. It's here. So I cried on the good place.
Starting point is 03:12:34 Like I get emotional the show. She figured it out again. Oh, well, I can't remember the last like season for the writing got really series that like really made me emotional in that way. Like to the point of almost crying. The last one I can really think of is the end of Moneyball where his daughter's singing to him.
Starting point is 03:13:03 That was very sweet. I like that. Yeah, that's sweet. Yeah, he should have taken that job, though. They won the series two years later. I think that as my that's my all time favorite sports movie. Like that movie rocks. The last time you cried was Moneyball, like years ago. I don't think I don't think it like made me fully cry.
Starting point is 03:13:24 But like like maybe welled up a bit, dude, I am such an easy content crier. It's the streamer beat the final boss. Did you see it was great? It was close. Or you know what? Uh, seeing it like this videos where, where uh, like a dog is reunited with their owner after a long time. Ooh, those, ooh, that, that's in the mix. If I want to get a good sad moment out, little cry, I'll watch those dogs. End game, you know,
Starting point is 03:13:58 where Captain America straps the shield onto what might be a broken arm and he's just ready to go anyway. Jackie's like, do you need anything? I'm like, I don't need attention right now. I cry with that scene too. That's a great thing. You know what? He said, I don't watch the Marvel movies. So I'm just imagining the Marvel universe where it's like fucking Deadpool saying some country shit to the TV and Captain America is ready to fucking save the world. I bet it is emotional. The end of Endgame is like people are dying like they're killing main
Starting point is 03:14:33 characters left and right and so and so when Captain America is fighting Thanos and Thanos has this giant like double-ended sword made out of space metal and he's cracked Captain's shield and broken his arm and Cap cinches the shield down to his arm to hold the arm together. What does he say? He says something. What he should have said is I can do this all day because that was his line. And Captain America, the very first one when he's getting beat up in the alley by the bully,
Starting point is 03:15:01 I can do this all day. He's getting dominated. But it's that force of will that is Captain America's greatest superpower. And he's just standing up to Thanos and just come on. When he calls and he gets the fucking hammer. Oh my God. The whole, the theater melted down. The theater screamed. Yeah. It was everybody was, was I've never been in a moment like that. Like I've been at like high school basketball games where we came back and won and like I felt like big booming crowds. Everybody's on the same like vibe but never like when Captain
Starting point is 03:15:35 America caught that fucking hammer. We all were like yes he ain't dying today. And not only that like we hadn't seen that before. You know that was the that was the one and only time that shit had ever happened nobody can pick up Mjolnir or Taylor you may probably know that but no I know yeah and Captain America like summons the hammer and Thor looks up all bloodies I knew it all of a sudden Captain America starts doing combos with his shield and the sword and Thanos like he's getting overwhelmed and like getting backed down by just a man a world war two American man and well he's you can't feel more he's on he's on the sauce yeah it's just patriotism fueled by bald eagles and and like that that
Starting point is 03:16:20 never-ending desire to die on a battlefield i't know. Thanos seems like he based on what you guys have said, it seems like Thanos had some points. He did have some points. Yeah. Hey, this is understandable. And then Captain America starts losing and all of a sudden the entire Marvel universe shows up, you know, and it's that. Right in the nick of time. More or less. Stop Taylor.
Starting point is 03:16:43 More or less. More or less. More or less. Stop Taylor. More or less. I'm just being cutty. The humor is on point. It's wonderful. I cry. I cry.
Starting point is 03:17:00 I'm gonna watch the YouTube video after we get done here and I'm going to shed a tear for it. I know I will. I do every time I watch it. I shed a tear. Kyle's retelling. I'm weak. Oh, you know one that I don't think it inspired a cry, but like definitely emotion. When those Russian guys in Chernobyl, kind of just like the boots on the ground guys were having to like solemnly
Starting point is 03:17:26 suit up and you know, they're being fed a load of nonsense, a load of tripe about you can be out there for this long and it won't really affect you, but you can tell like they all know that's not true. Like they all know, like I saw the dudes with like the red blistery skin and everything, like we're going out to like the red blistery skin and everything like we're going out to shovel that and then like just the panicky, the panicked breathing in their apparatuses as they're on that rooftop having to run out in shifts. That was, that was very emotional. Chernobyl is the last mini series I watched that I thought was every single second of it was fantastic. Not one moment, not one scene of Chernobyl was bad.
Starting point is 03:18:06 I agree completely. Chernobyl's top tier. I'm waiting on a few years so it's not as fresh in my mind to do a great rewatch. This is an entire YouTube channel of tear-jerkers. So this YouTube channel is called the Congressional Medal of Honor Society. And some of the stories aren't all that moving. Sometimes somebody's jumped on a grenade and maybe the telling of the story isn't all that great even, you know, and it's fun. Some of them are so in-depth, long, with so many witnesses and it's so well edited, the tears are rolling. I don't just shed a tear, I'm sobbing. I've got a towel blowing my nose, like, yeah, you did, yes, you did, thank you. Like these guys, this guy in Vietnam, they like left them on this artillery position. It's all the artillery guns are there in this clearing in the jungle and they've got like an encampment there.
Starting point is 03:18:52 It's where they're staying. And like a Colonel or something comes down a helicopter and he's like, your position's getting overrun tonight. They're coming. They're coming from the East. There's 2000 men. It's the whatever detachment of this and that, they're coming, be prepared. And then he gets on his helicopter and fucking leaves.
Starting point is 03:19:09 And so they have their artillery pieces pointed level, shooting beehive rounds. And the guy who won the Medal of Honor is operating one of these things. And they keep shooting him, the enemy keeps shooting him, and he keeps getting blown up by grenades and he's telling the story so you know he makes it He's just like that that one blue took my rib out and I could see the rib and I said Lord Just let me fire one more and I load her up and I let her fly and then the grenade went off and the shrapnel Peppered out my left eye and I said Lord Let me fire one more and I loaded her up and I let her fly. And every time that cannon would go off, a swap of the enemy in the jungle itself would tremble.
Starting point is 03:19:50 And then he fights them all off. All the enemy are gone. He said, but I looked across the river and as well as I could with my good eye and I saw little Billy. Little Billy was out on that island and he was screaming for help. And so he like gets in an inflatable bed
Starting point is 03:20:04 and paddles across the river and like saves screaming for help. And so he like gets in an inflatable bed and paddles across the river and like saves this other guy. And it's like one after he had been shot like multiple times, all sorts of frag wounds, and he just laid waste to the enemy. And then there's another guy who was special forces and they had been dropped off on a riverboat deep into Laos. And they stumble upon a riverboat deep into Laos and they stumble upon that like a 1500 2000 men and his Cambodian like counterpart or the herb South Vietnamese counterparts got spooked and shot a gun off or something and now the enemy is coming down on him and he's radioing fucking artillery fire from naval guns onto these enemy positions that are right in front of him. He's shooting law rockets at him. He's fighting hand to hand. He's machine gunning people.
Starting point is 03:20:46 Both of his buddies are blown up. One's lost half his head. The other's lost half his ass. He's got both of them. He's carrying two grown men. He ends up on the beach, calling all the artillery down on his position. The enemy's pouring down the hill toward him.
Starting point is 03:20:59 He starts swimming out to the ocean with two men on his shoulder. He swims miles into the ocean, to the Navy carrying two men. One of. He swims miles into the ocean to the Navy carrying two men, one of them's, and it's at this part where they cut back to the footage of the interviewer and they show a new guy you haven't seen yet in the story. And you could tell half his head had been blown off. He pulled me out. A terrible interview.
Starting point is 03:21:20 No, he's fucking telling the story. Half his head. You got to tell us who this is so we can watch the video though It's it's in this it's one of these it's one of these from the Congressional Medal of Honor Society like video thing. I don't know which one of those that's awesome that they got that channel Those have me sobbing every time I watch them They're wild the shit that those guys did and went through and the perseverance. There's a Jewish guy that couldn't speak well in Korea, like had bad eyesight and he's like, I was going to show the son of bitches I was tough.
Starting point is 03:21:56 And it's like all these men that wanted to prove themselves and just went above and beyond, it's crazy stuff. That always makes me cry. Hmm. You know, I do remember something that almost, or maybe would, maybe did make me cry was after the blues lost game six of the 2019 Stanley cup finals, I was more upset than I've ever been watching any piece of media, which is very gay. I know.
Starting point is 03:22:26 But like I was so amped on them being up three, two in the series. And I'm like, the Blues are going to do it. They're going to beat the Bruins. They're going to win the Stanley. And then they lost that game. The five to one. Yeah, lost five to one in game six. And I was like, I don't even know if I want to watch the game seven.
Starting point is 03:22:46 You know, I don't even know if I want to watch the game seven. I don't even care. I don't even care. Actually, I'm not really fucking upset about it. And then you're like, and then you're like mad at yourself in your head where you're like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you care this much about a sports team that you don't play for? And then just five minutes into that thinking. Pretty they watch us work. No, no, I can't actually lie to myself. I really do care so much about them winning the game.
Starting point is 03:23:12 Seven happens to me with UFC fights sometimes, like my guy loses a belt and the next day is just a little bit darker. You know, it's like, I woke up in a world where my guy's not a champion anymore. Or the opposite happens, where it's like, you know what? My guy won last night. Today is just a little bit brighter. I live in a world where my guy's champion.
Starting point is 03:23:38 This is dope. And you know what, next fight, he's gonna enter second. He's gonna be the champion. He's gonna wear the black shorts. He's gonna have the gold gloves he's like it's cool mm-hmm I watched a movie it's on our flex it's called warfare it's an a 24 flick it's the most hardcore military movie I've ever seen it's a it's it's a true story it's it's told by the memories of the Navy SEALs who were there I think it took place in Kandahar.
Starting point is 03:24:06 The whole movie takes place in one location. You kind of get to know the guys as you go. And it is super fucking intense. I think, did Alex Garland direct it? I know that the co-director or one of the directors was one of the SEALs maybe that was there. And I know after the movie, when the credits are rolling, there's like, the seals were there like participating in-
Starting point is 03:24:28 Carlin and Mendoza I believe. It's a, it's hard fucking core. It looks real. It looks very real and it seems realistic. And there's so much like attention to detail with the, not just the way that the way they dress, the way they move, the way they act, like the, the, the, the whole thing and the combat is incredibly intense. It's, it's like, uh,
Starting point is 03:24:52 it reminds me of the saving private Ryan, um, D-day stuff, how like it takes away the illusion of like war being this who raw, fun, fun kind of thing. Like, like you know like your buddies are blown up You know and and they're hurting bad And you're just trying to fight to stay alive and nobody's pumped and like having a good time everybody scared You know it's it's intense, and it's scary And it's like you just happy you weren't in that fucking room And you weren't in that building candor are you watching this either? Did you see it at home?
Starting point is 03:25:22 Or I watched it at home a couple nights ago Nice, I definitely recommend it I was I was looking at the Rotten Tomatoes reviews and some guy his review was he gave it five stars He's like I was so happy when it was over in a good way Because like you want your boys to live and you don't know if they are they're gonna or not because like bad shit is happening the movie as you don't know if they're gonna or not, because like bad shit is happening. The movie has some of the, it's very gory. It looks real. Like when you see people blown apart, you see people with really nasty compound fracture, shrapnel injuries and such, and they're in pain and it's rough. absolute worst time to be like a not front lines soldier in the most strict sense.
Starting point is 03:26:09 World War I, no. All of history. Civil War. World War I. Canon fodder. I got to gangrene from one musket realm. That would suck too. World War I, I think.
Starting point is 03:26:24 World War I, I think. World War I, I think that you had, they were those armies in World War I, some of them still had sort of, I mean, the Civil War was that first step into modern combat, I think, but World War I fully encompassed it with the machine guns, the barbed wire, the gas, the trench warfare. And, you know, those battles in France, where years would pass and the front lines would jiggle back and forth 300 meters. The trench foot, you read some of the stuff about the gases and the effects that they, at first there were no gas masks right away.
Starting point is 03:26:56 Gas came before the gas mask on the tech ladder. So think about how that went for a little while, you know? And the chlorine gas, they used all sorts of things. They used things that would make people's faces melt off. You know, they used nasty stuff. And the artillery, you know? And just the amount of time that you were on the front line in danger,
Starting point is 03:27:15 it's the worst of all the worlds, if you ask me. At least if you were getting smashed by a knight or something out on an open field in Scotland, they were going to come back at the end of the battlefield. Somebody walked around and stabbed all the bodies. Like at least you're dying today. And you're going to get it over with. They just sat in those trenches with their feet rotting off for months, years. I, one of the ones I least favorite. Yeah, you're telling me that is.
Starting point is 03:27:39 Look, NOM's terrifying the amount of like time that the infantry men stood like was in combat like You don't hear about a lot of fragging going on a world war two or at least I've never heard it You don't hear about fragging going on a world war one Although I've been that whistle-blowing cocksucker would get shot if I was hanging out with him, but in NAMM You hear about it all the time officers getting a grenade rolled into the dent. They would put a bounty up You know everyone in your squad would be like $20 if that motherfucker ain't around. I and some really I got it They would all of a sudden be a pot together for who would kill the Sarge or the lieutenant or whoever's gonna Out on patrol tomorrow. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like every single conflict has its own kind of
Starting point is 03:28:23 Hell component to it, right? Because if you like, yeah, there's something to be said for going to a foreign conflict, especially being, you know, growing up in a small town and that being all, you know, and you, you're like, like Tom Hanks being a teacher or something like that going over overseas. But you also have to think like things like the civil war where your family, your family is not an innocent bystander.
Starting point is 03:28:48 Like they're also in the middle of it, right? So like even you going to fight this great war against this thing that, you know, abroad, you may or may not come back, but the fact your family will be safe because, you know, the country's going to, you know, stop this imminent threat or whatever. Man, like you think about like, if your wife, your kids, potentially being tortured, or raped and
Starting point is 03:29:17 killed and stuff like that. That's another element of psychological component that I think that every, every, every single fucking, every conflict has its own. You know what redlegs are, Taylor? I don't. I said northern. I said northern marauders coming down of the south raping and pillaging and special forces kind of guerrilla warfare detachment. It's going from fun.
Starting point is 03:29:40 You ever watch the movie The Outlaw Josie Wales with Clint Eastwood? Oh my god. It's one of's a you ever watch the movie the outlaw Josie Wales with Clint Eastwood. Oh my god Yeah, favorite Westerns. It's it Clint Eastwood's family's attack Is attacked by red legs they come and they Rape his wife and they burn his family alive in their house and they they think they've killed Clint Eastwood But they haven't and then a southern brigade comes by and says, red legs? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:06 We're going up north. Set a few things straight. Clint Eastwood says, I'll be coming with you. And then the music starts playing. Boom, boom. And you get a montage of them like riding through the north like whooping ass. And at the end of the movie, the whole deal is that Clint Eastwood is the last rebel who hasn't surrendered and he has to he goes west and so he's going through Texas and and Going on crazy adventures and whenever he kills a man because he's a bad motherfucker with a pistol Obviously after his family's laid dead He goes into the ashes and digs out his old pistol and starts training and at first he can't hit the fence post
Starting point is 03:30:41 But by the end he's Clint Eastwood. He had a little training montage and every time he kills somebody, spits that black tobacco juice on their head. The boy go, shouldn't we bury him, Josie? He says, Buzzard's got to eat same as worms. And they ride on. Uncle Leo is in his like fucking acting day. Whoa! He's a bad guy.
Starting point is 03:31:05 Yeah. He's like, now I damn Mr. Josie Wales. Now you pull that pistol out, slow as molasses in the winter time. Josie, you said you'd be here on Tuesday for dinner and you didn't show up. That's what he's doing. Badger, just bothering him to death.
Starting point is 03:31:23 It's, Al O'Josie Wales is in my top five Westerns all time. It's oh wow definitely right up there. It's I think I like Given and then Unforgiven then lonesome dub then tombstone then the outlaw Josie Wales and then I can mix and match after that the magnitude is in seven with I don't love that one. A little slow for me. So is the Good, Bad and Ugly. A little slow for me.
Starting point is 03:31:49 I appreciate those movies artistically I suppose and like historically as a little time capsule of spaghetti westerns. That's an interesting time in Hollywood's history but I don't love them. The dubbing is bad. The thing they did in Italy is they would have everyone speak their native tongue. And then they just dub it and post and it looks like that sucks. You got like a real tower of babble thing where it's like some person speaking Italian, another person speaking English.
Starting point is 03:32:15 They have no idea what the other person's saying. Although I guess even if you don't speak Italian, you can get the gist of what they're saying. They're very animated. This guy's angry about something. A lot of hand movements. A lot of that. Yeah. Which is good. I like cultures that speak with their hands. See, Tombstone is good. The first half, Tombstone is great, but they had some production issues where Kurt Russell ended up being the director of that movie eventually. And the second half is a little whatever. I I like the first half do you know people that speak
Starting point is 03:32:48 with their hands in real life yeah yeah like it's I've people have told me I do mm-hmm sometimes and it's like but sometimes it's just like you need to emphasize what you're saying like I think it's more common than people realize. Like in terms of content, I love it. Bring the animation, bring the story, articulate for talking with your hands, et cetera. In real life, sometimes I'm like, easy, easy. You don't like that too much for me. There is an amount that's too much. Like I saw there's some clip on Twitter years ago, but it was like some guy just like stealth recording two Italian guys in like Rome having an argument outside of a deli. And it's like you could, you could almost see what
Starting point is 03:33:35 they were arguing about, like just like the pleading, the like, oh, just this and that in their hands and the sideways. Just this and that in their hands and the big sideways. You know, over here, like just the hit in their head and exasperation. It's like, this is kind of fun. A little overanimate. If I were to see that in a movie, I'd be like, yeah, right. Really?
Starting point is 03:33:56 Italians are talking like that. But I guess those guys were. So it certainly exists to an extent. Probably. I would guess that Spanish and Greek people do it just as much But it's just not their stereotype because it seems like there's such a similarity there in the in the communication style between like Italians Spanish maybe the Portuguese the Greeks the southern the more olive the ones the the olive oil Europeans not the butter Europeans. I've never heard that, but yeah.
Starting point is 03:34:28 Yeah. I instantly know what you mean. Yep. Yeah. They're all about that olive oil, which is great. There's a whole map I saw in, or you should take it back to horrible map, the horrible map segments. Can we get to my pornography, butter versus olive oil? You get the butter olive oil map? And it's like, I saw the map and I was like, okay, well, I've learned
Starting point is 03:34:48 nothing new. Obviously, the Scots are not olive oil people. It's cold. Obviously, all the WAPs down there, especially in like Sicily, like, yeah, they're not buttering it up. You know, that got into the Townsend's YouTube channel. I've been watching that dude cook. I love that shit. I like to watch that man make a fucking pudding, anything he wants to do. He talks about the mush peas that sailors would eat. They take a bag and they fill it up with green, like English peas, and then they boil the bag. And then you've got this ball of green mush and they're like they'd eat this pretty much every day. Pretty much every day and it's like
Starting point is 03:35:30 that somehow made peas less appetizing to me. Yeah he's like now if you're really having a treat you'd add a little butter and salt but those were rare commodities so you probably were eating it plain maybe a little nutmeg which was was considered a poor spice. A little nutmeg on your mushed peas. Yeah. He, he's dressed. If you don't know Richard, they dress in period, correct clothing. Oh wow. They have a property that's all like period, correct with the cabins and the cookery and I mean the spoons they use. They, they have a really good video where they do revolutionary war stuff. So they show you how an officer during the Revolutionary War. They have this whole record of how Benjamin Franklin was trying to raise
Starting point is 03:36:10 funds for the Continental Army. And he was like, we need X amount of like butter and X amount of branding and X amount of sugar per man. And we need this many of those. And so now he has those ingredients. So I'm gonna create a feast from a continental lieutenant's kitchen. And he cooks them, he puts them together. And he gives you a historical cooking lesson. And then he eats it with a wooden spoon. It's good. Yeah, and I always love when he reads passages
Starting point is 03:36:39 from old cookbooks, because they did not hold your hand in old cookbooks. It'd be like cook until well good. Yeah, I'm reading a passage here from Mary Baker from 1716. Cook the stew until well seasoned. You know, add spice to a to a sheep's head. Now in that time, a sheep's head meant whatever you could afford. And it's like, what the fuck does any of this mean? But it was like a lot of guessing. It was like, add radishes well-rounded. It's like, what? Well, that's interesting.
Starting point is 03:37:19 Cause there was, there wasn't a lot of measuring tools. There weren't, they weren't measuring. It was like, add this amount. And then even the cooking, it would be like, cook until it kind of smells like this, or until it sort of looks like this. It was like, cook until lunchtime. And it's, what the fuck are you talking about? Now cook soundly until thou are hungry.
Starting point is 03:37:43 It was interesting to me that breakfast was usually like this really, really light meal. It was probably bread crumbled up in milk. That would be a common one. Like to make the poor man's porridge. Lunch was the big meal of the day because that was the meal that you brought to the men in the field who were like working up an appetite literally. And so they would have these meat pies and such that you could put in a pocket and just super caloric dense they'd be full of raisins or whatever all sorts of weird shit it'd be like beef and raisin pie and then dinner
Starting point is 03:38:14 would be another light meal because you fucking ate this huge meal at lunch while you're working so there's some like I don't know cultural stuff you learn and he goes through the ages he does like like pirate stuff and, or ship or sailor stuff. And he does- That's awesome. Yeah, the sailor stuff is sick. The war stuff, yeah, it's good. And the, I like, just like you said, the war,
Starting point is 03:38:36 I like the rations. What's uncomfortable though? That is that when they have a black guy who works on the show too, they have several guys. There's a main guy. He's a white guy who's probably 55. And then there have a black guy who works on the show too? They have several guys. They have there's a main guy he's a white guy who's probably 55 and then there's a secondary guy he's a Fairly overweight big man who's maybe 35 and then every now and then this black dude shows up and it's like he's wearing this slave Garb he's making some fucking Garb I mean, it's.
Starting point is 03:39:05 You know, if I recall, he's also on the larger side. He's a big boy. He looked like he's right out of Django Unchained, but he was one of the house ninjas. He was eating good. Well, I was just enjoying watching him talk about how to cook up that fried chicken. And then they give you little lessons where he's like, the thing I'm not saying that's a story history. Yeah, it actually goes back to Scotland. And in Scotland, they would
Starting point is 03:39:31 fry the chicken, blah, blah, blah this way. And then in the Americas, they switched this and that up and then did it this way. Very entertaining. I love towns and ensigns. Yep. Yeah, it's real good. I don't use any other cooking though. I'll stick with Adam Ragusa or somebody for that Adam Ragusa. Yes, good cooking channel. Okay, I get that I guess I stop on those quick recipes on Twitter For a reasonable amount of time because my algorithm now serves me up a lot of cooking content And I'm happy with it Adam Ragusa will break down, a little bit of the science and history behind the thing. He'll really get to the bottom of why a Vidalia onion is a Vidalia onion and how to cook it.
Starting point is 03:40:13 And it's go on and on and he'll, he'll do some comparison. Sometimes we'll show you like what kind of garlic is best, whether you want preserved garlic or powdered garlic or fresh garlic or minced garlic. And he'll break it down, cook it a bunch of different ways and show you the best way. And then I really like Chef John from foodwishes.com who has a very funny way of speaking. Well, if you're consuming that much cooking content, you gotta tell me, what's your favorite thing to cook lately?
Starting point is 03:40:38 Like, what do you- I always fall back to like steaks and twice baked potatoes. I like to sous vide and you know, cast iron, beef, tallow, garlic, rosemary. And I like doing twice baked potatoes with cheese and butter and stuff like that. So you're sous videing the steak? I can do anything.
Starting point is 03:40:55 And yeah, yeah. You sure can. I sous vide the steak to like rare and then I take it out and it's all gross and gray. And then I sear it up in the cast iron pan and get some flavor on it. But I don't know chicken parmesan I'm really good at that. I think I'm a tremendous chicken parm start with those San Marzano tomatoes and make a just a perfect marinara sauce and then get my fancy noodles. I've made my own pasta before for that. That's that's nice.
Starting point is 03:41:25 That's a little time intense though. But just getting the chicken right with the paint. I do a mixture of seasoned panko and seasoned flour and you get a nice crispy crunchy thing. Panko is like vacuum. They use a vacuum chamber to make the crumbs like these big inflated aerated crumblies. So panko ends as a nice crunch. I do like half panko and half flour and you know, I marinate the chicken and I do a really enormous chicken farm. I'm good at that.
Starting point is 03:41:58 But anything really, there's not, I got really into Asian food for a while. A lot of Thai and Indian curries, making my own curry pastes and stuff. Got really into soup food for a while. A lot of Thai and Indian curries, making my own curry pastes and stuff. Got really into soups for a while and ordered all kinds of Asian ingredients to make hot and sour soup. So you're cooking, you're cooking a lot.
Starting point is 03:42:14 I probably cook half my meals or something. I do a lot of meal prep too. Lately my kick has been stuffed bell peppers. So I'm making just ground bison and rice and black beans and just stuffing bell peppers and then making like eight of those and just, I've got them individually sealed in my refrigerator. And I probably eat two peppers a day lately. I'm pretty autistic. So we're out, I'll get into these modes where I eat the same
Starting point is 03:42:42 thing every day. But that also allows me to like get better at cooking a particular Yeah, yeah, a lot of practice. You're in the process like I do that in a less healthy way Like I've been smoking a lot of ribs in my in my Yeah, I am getting better at it every time but you need to finally pull the trigger on the Traeger just some kind of Smoker because you would enjoy it. You're You clearly have a passion for the culinary arts I like this and forget nature of the smoker because I love slow cooking like I make incredible Italian beef sandwiches
Starting point is 03:43:15 I I love for Tilo's in Chicago. I haven't been back there in years, but I always think about those sweet and hot pepper Portillo's Italian which is fucking dips You're yes dipped in the dipped in the sauce and the cheese fries and everything So I I duplicated that recipe and I got that down. It's just it's just you do like a slow cooker roast beef with What are those peppers say it for me? Jardinera Jardinera's you take like a jar of Jardinera and dump it in there with beef broth and Italian seasoning and some other stuff. And eight, nine hours later, you shred that shit up and put it on hogies.
Starting point is 03:43:51 They're so good. Yes. When I've done it, I like getting the extra hot, whatever the hottest kind of peppers you can get, and then go a little heavier on your pepper pour. I like a little heavier on pepper. I want it covered in peppers. Yeah, like, I want it covered in peppers. Yeah, yeah. Covered in peppers. Um, it's like a, uh, Midwestern cheesesteak, right? Like that's the deal. Like they're taking the Philly cheese steak and making it not white trash. It's so much
Starting point is 03:44:14 better than a Philly cheese steak. The Italian beef, Italian beef is the best. Yeah. I can't get behind the cheese whisk. I know some of them do provolone maybe I guess I can get on with that, but it's still like not as flavorful as that. It's not I got into it because I was watching Here's a show for you. If you're not into it yet the bear You know about the corner that cooking show. I love that shit. That is what got me on the Italian beef thing I was like, we're not flying to Chicago, but I got to have that sandwich. Yeah Yeah, I love the bear that's another one that I could get a little emotional watching because his trials and tribulations and his intensity is so
Starting point is 03:44:49 much. I love that actor. Sometimes he's gonna finish the food in time. Like the only thing that it's like, when does he have time to work out dudes kind of ripped? You know what I mean? Like he is he is like ripped as nicotine, nicotine, adrenaline and, and, and not eating a whole lot. That's cheap codes for low body fat. I'm thankful. I'm not a foodie. I hear you guys talk about all the complex meals you make. I was raised on bad food.
Starting point is 03:45:17 My mother used to tell me as a child that her gift to our future wives was low expectations. Oh no. Yeah. And now Jackie serves whatever. I say, thank you. I tell her it's great. That's my food experience. Oh, I, I need variety in my food experience. It's been a problem where I really need it. And I'm not the level of cook by any stretch that Kyle is, but like most stuff I could like I've cooked enough for myself and for others that I can I can figure it out on the go most of the time. It's not going to be, you know, Kyle
Starting point is 03:46:00 level or masterful. The only thing that I'm like confident every single time that like, yeah, I'm in the zone here is my smoker. Like if I'm making pulled pork, it is going to be fantastic. If I'm making ribs, I am so drilled in on exactly the time. Like you can tell when you're figuring a recipe out, when like I am making real time changes to like what they're saying to do online, where it's like, ah, it must just be a hotter day because that internal temp is rising a little faster. They want me to have this in there for another 28 minutes. No, it's going to be dry. Take it out. Take it out. Take it like, like get it out. You know, oh, they think this much apple cider vinegar should be added this much brown sugar. No, I like
Starting point is 03:46:42 a, I like a more, uh more acidic, I like that vinegary taste. I'm going to go a little lighter on the brown sugar. I'm going to go a bit heavier on the apple cider vinegar. Oh, you should add a little molasses sometimes. I've only done that once. Yeah. No, I don't do liquid smoke. The hickory in the smoker adds plenty of smoke. Let me tell you what to do next. The anchovy paste. Oh, I like anchovies. Get that umami in there. the smoker adds plenty of smoke. Let me tell you what to do next. The land chovy paste. Ooh, I like anchovies.
Starting point is 03:47:06 So I don't mommy in there on ribs though. I don't know because I'm getting it's not going to taste like fish. It's going to, it's going to add like a meaty delectableness to your, your brown sugar and your, your apple cider mixture. I trust you take a, what is it? They come in the adobo sauce.
Starting point is 03:47:23 Those, those, oh, those peppers, those peppers that come in the adobo sauce those those um oh those peppers those peppers that come in the adobo sauce yeah yeah dump the if you like your sauce chunky um you can just dice them but i run it through a blender and and you get like a perfectly smooth sauce it's real tasty sometimes i don't even add the sauce like i've tried it both ways with ribs, where they say add the sauce before the final hour. And I've done that. And if it's, if it's a vinegary sauce, which is what I prefer, it cooks out too much. And you get not enough of the base flavor. Like I can see how that would work with super sugary sweet sauces, which is not the kind of barbecue I ever make. I don't like the sweet, the sweet, the sugary sauces, you know, but you got to get a smoker, man. You're going to,
Starting point is 03:48:09 you're going to be the king smoker of the neighborhood. I, uh, I like to deep fry turkeys and chickens too. Like every Thanksgiving, I deep fry that Turkey and it's like a fucking extravaganza. I like the show of it. It's one of those things. It's fun to do. You know, you've got, it's a little dangerous. You got three or four gallons of boiling peanut oil. Yeah. It's fucking fun. Um, I've never had an accident or a spill or an injury. I did cook a Turkey until it was black one year though. That was funny.
Starting point is 03:48:35 I think you sent a picture of that. It was black as night. I'm at the head of the Thanksgiving table set up in my fucking living room. My whole family's there and I'm holding up this turkey like I just caught a bass and you can tell I'm dying laughing at myself and it's black as night. It's charcoal. We cut it open and it was still juicy though. The outside was ruined but once you opened it up,
Starting point is 03:48:57 I thought it was gonna be like Christmas vacation when they cut the turkey open and it goes, ooh. Gases are escaping. Then once you've had deep fried turkey, you're like, oh, okay, so this is how you're supposed to eat this kind of meat, because every other way sucks ass compared to deep fried turkey.
Starting point is 03:49:14 I brine it for a couple days. I take the entire bottom slider drawer in your fridge, that's what you brine in. You take whole turkey, put it in there, and you've got a whole jar of peppercorns, a couple lemons cut in half, a couple onions cut in half, and 50% sugar, 50% salt, and then hot water. And get it all like stirred up together and then drop that bird in there for a couple days. And it soaks all that shit up through osmosis because of the salt. The salt carries it into the meat. And then I also inject it with that Cajun butter, like I'm Botox and that bitch.
Starting point is 03:49:48 Like, I mean, I'm I inject it with Cajun butter, even as it's like escaping, like like through the holes that I've already made. And and then I usually give it a dry rub after that of Cajun seasoning inside out and then drop that oil. There's no meat. It's all brine. It's all brine and seasoning. Yeah, it's so fucking good. That's the best way to eat turkey.
Starting point is 03:50:12 Yeah, I still haven't made my own mozzarella yet. I was on a kick that I wanted to make. Oh, I know it's easy, but I wanted to make mozzarella so I could make bruschetta like food. I was like food. Yeah, master cheese squeezer. Like, I don't know if you guys make bruschetta. Like furio. Yeah. Master cheese squeezer. I don't know if you guys love bruschetta, but that's one of those foods that every time it's offered somewhere, I order it, I eat a ton of it, and I'm like, this should become a more regular
Starting point is 03:50:34 part of my life, and then I don't think about it anymore for a while. So yeah, but I don't know if I need to be storming the beach of cheese making. No, I certainly don't. Leave that for the young kids. Leave that. That's a young man's game. Making all that cheese. Can't keep up in the cheese game anymore, squeezing that much. I appreciate it. Because it's an unbelievably high calorie thing to be eating. Because it's just cheese, bread, and... there's a few things that you should never even bother like mates because like ketchup is the number one never try to make your own ketchup they perfected that shit it's at the store in a big red
Starting point is 03:51:14 bottle go get that it's the best ketchup on earth you can't improve upon ketchup hmm what about mustard you can prove upon mustard you can make some like fancy mustards and stuff. But you know, it's a little simpler than balancing the ketchup thing out. Yeah. Now that I'm like dabbling in the fancy men's mustard, it's ruined. Like the French's yellow mustard is ruined for me. I don't even want that on my shit anymore. You got a mortar and pestle grinding grinding those mustard seeds. I'd prefer that. That shit's delicious. It's like you eat that kind of mustard and you're like, they've the French's people have stolen flavor from me. They've stolen
Starting point is 03:51:56 flavor away in the name of mass production. And so you can buy fancy, you can buy fancy stone ground mustards. Yeah, yeah, you can. I don't know. That's what I was it's like, you can buy fancy, you can buy fancy stone ground mustards. It's yeah, yeah, you can't. I don't know. That's what I was saying is like, if I spent a bunch of time learning to make mustard, is it really going to be better than like the stone ground artisanal mustard I can get at the grocery store? Probably not right. You should get into bread making. There's a subreddit
Starting point is 03:52:20 called bread it bread. Yeah, and my brother is into making sourdoughs. And so he'll like bring them to family occasions sometimes. And they're always excellent. They're really, really good. You can buy the online, you can go and buy the starter culture from San Francisco. And it's the same culture they've been using for like a hundred years.
Starting point is 03:52:38 It's like a never ending sourdough situation. Or like one of those, what are those stews called? Where they keep it boiling forever. Oh yeah, Like the forever stews or yeah. Yeah. Um, and, uh, and I made some pretty tasty sourdough. I've got a whole bread machine set up and everything. I don't do it too often because you can go to the store and buy a loaf of bread and it's perfect. They really nailed it. Yeah. They know how to bake bread. Shocker. Yeah. Um, there's, there Yeah. There's some things that are just infinitely better if you do them yourself, but some things like fucking bread and ketchup, you just buy.
Starting point is 03:53:11 A good steak is another thing. If you don't have the right equipment, then I feel like you can't match that. They have this 950 degree broiler at Morton's, and unless you have that, you're never going to exactly get that, that sear on the outside. But that green egg's real good. I'm either gonna get a green egg or a smoker, but I go back and forth.
Starting point is 03:53:34 Don't the green eggs smoke? Do they? I thought they did. But if- Oh, there was a smoker. If they do, I thought the green egg was like a grill and a smoker. But the thing with like the kind of Traeger I have at least
Starting point is 03:53:45 like the wood pellet kind, is it's much more set it and forget it. Like you can't be a retard. You have to like keep an eye on your recipe, go out, check the temperature of it, make sure that your hopper is full of wood, but it's so fucking easy. And it's such a good payoff.
Starting point is 03:53:59 Isn't the green egg like a Yeti cooler almost where it's not better, but it's much more? Isn't the green egg like a Yeti cooler almost where it's not better, but it's much more? I think as a reputation for being expensive. Let's see, green egg smoker, big green egg, that's what it's called. Oh yeah, they're a little expensive. They're more than 500 less than that.
Starting point is 03:54:17 Oh, these are way more than my Traeger smoker was. Yeah. For the big one probably. So go on Facebook marketplace right now and there's plenty of them around you for $500 though. They're heavy. They're heavy. That's the big thing. It's like buying one of those old school CRTs. People can't get rid of them. I don't know what to do with it. You say it's heavy, but is it like a two-man heavy? In one piece, it's two-man heavy for sure. It's, you know, if you tip it over on concrete, it breaks. So you
Starting point is 03:54:47 gotta, you gotta be kind of careful. Yeah, I wouldn't get that for smoking. It doesn't seem like there's any sort of automated wood pallet system. You'd have to be like, and for smoking itself, heat, like, I'm seeing heat isn't what you want anyway. I would want it for stakes though, to get to have that really high trigger has so many accessories now too. Yeah, it's a pretty sweet machine.
Starting point is 03:55:12 I kind of wish I had two instead of one big one, if that makes any sense, right? Cause it's like being able, cause I never cook a bunch of ribs at the same temperature. It's usually like, I'm gonna do a rack of ribs and maybe some steaks or something like that. So like you wanna do the different temperatures or different processes and stuff.
Starting point is 03:55:33 Yeah, that is true. Like even when I do ribs, I never do like one rack of ribs. I always do at least two racks of ribs because it's like if I'm going to spend six hours on this because that's like the required amount of time to do ribs correctly, and maybe a little less if you're doing baby back instead of spare, but I prefer spare ribs. Like it, I don't want to have one meal out of my six hour endeavor. And so it's like, all right, it's going to cook about the same, like loaded up with two racks. And now I've
Starting point is 03:56:06 got like days of food. I just thought of something, have you ever smoked a rack of lamb? No, there's a barbecue place out here in Texas, that's making some some waves. I think it's KG barbecue. But it's essentially Mediterranean spin on barbecue. So it's like smoking lamb, like you would a traditional brisket and everything. And like all of the sides and stuff are very Mediterranean inspired and stuff. And the guy is like, you can't have bad barbecue in Texas. So it's like all these,
Starting point is 03:56:46 that sounds great. Yeah. They, they crush little tzatziki sauce on your, your smoked lamb. Yeah. Mediterranean food is incredible. It's so good. And all those people, none of those people are that fat. So it's probably good for you. It's not because they're, it's not because they walk so much. It's because of the food. Oh, you're not, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I was trying to help, I made a mistake. That roasting skewer cooking type thing that they do when you go into the Greek restaurant, they like shave the meat off, whatever that's called.
Starting point is 03:57:21 I want one of them. Falafel, is that what it's called? I don't think the machine's called falafel. Oh, shwarma. Isn't that what shwarma is? Yeah. I think so. Yeah, but shwarma's more like the sandwich that they make once they get the meat, I think. But there's a restaurant down here called Pitta. Pitta Mediterranean Cuisine or something.
Starting point is 03:57:41 And when I go in there, the whole place smells like melted goat fat. That's a good smell if you don't know. I prefer dog poo. It's so good. They pile that plate full of goat meat. It's lamb. It's lamb, I think. I think it's lamb. Goat and lamb are both tasty. Can't go wrong. Goat can be a little tough. I think the only time I've had goat is at like Brazilian steak houses. And I always remembered it being, especially compared to some of the other stuff, more of the, one of the more chewy fares.
Starting point is 03:58:14 No, that's not my experience, but I may have eaten less goat than you. I guarantee it. I remember my dad had this Mexican guy working for him and my dad, his car wasn't working day. My dad drives him home and they had a goat on a spit in the front yard of their house and they were having the best time. I was like, damn, that's medieval. It was it was the whole goat.
Starting point is 03:58:40 It looked like a scene out of a Game of Thrones. They spin it by hand or do they have a machine? I don't remember. I remember seeing the carcass over an open fire out there and they were having like a party like they were, there's music that you could hear from a while and there's a lot of people living in that one house. Not anymore though. Trump put an end to all that.
Starting point is 03:59:00 He's in the nation clean. Clean of goat meat. Clean of goat meat. of goat meat yeah damn shame i don't like it it's greasy yeah but the greasiness is good like it it's like if you you can complain about lamb for the exact same reason like lamb can be very greasy i went to cock cam too over there very greasy. Went to cock cam too over there. Richard, have you ever seen, we got quad cam, you know, drifter, right? Do you know?
Starting point is 03:59:30 Yeah. Clock and load baby. Oh my God. Got the sploog juice too. I don't know what the fuck that is. Yeah. I was like trying to film as many different things as I could for today, like leading coming onto the podcast. I was like, fuck, fuck, what are some things?
Starting point is 03:59:45 I was like, ah, that's a little too much on the nose. You know, like getting my cum shots in slow motion. Well, we appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Taking the lock and load. It's gonna, that, that wonderful new gal, you're seeing, she appreciates it.
Starting point is 04:00:02 You're gonna have to let me know what you guys think on shots. And if there's anything else that you might want, we'll put together like a commercial for you or something. That would be awesome. I thought your, how you met story was funny. Like I can't believe I'm sharing all this. We met on a hinge. We both only date exclusively. We were looking for something serious and wholesome I've said too much fortunately you didn't press too hard on all the information so of course I say back then, but hinge is one of the good ones. Hinge seems like the most serious relationship. The one of the like, the ones that are open to the public and not something I've ever heard of.
Starting point is 04:00:52 Maybe there is, but like it, from like serious to slutty, it's like hinge, bumble. I want to put Tinder above Plenty of Fish, but Plenty of Fish is just like bots anyway. I don't think anybody actually uses that anymore. But back in the day, Plenty of Fish was, well, it was still mostly bots, but it was, it was also horse. It's still unfortunate though, because again, if you look at the amount of time spent on each of the apps, like it's really hard for guys out there. I mean, to be fair, it's hard
Starting point is 04:01:22 for women too. It's just like, how do you, how do you really find somebody that's aligned with the stuff that you want? Like, I mean, some people just want to hook up and that's great. But you don't have to be lonely at farmers only.com AKA white people. I only use JDate. Oh, no, I only use, I only use J date. Is that black Jewish? Jewish people. That's the Jewish one. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 04:01:51 No, it's like trying to marry the money. You have to put your favorite movie. You have to put your credit score. You have to put your bar mitzvah date. Is farmers only stupid question. I recognize the white only thing got me spinning. Is farmers only code for white people or is it for farmers?
Starting point is 04:02:08 It's for rural people. The answer is yes to all. Yeah. Well, I mean, most farmers are white. There's plenty of farmers on there who don't have a farm, but they are white. Well, they got a cowboy hat. Then that's there aren't any black cowboys on there that will say that farmers only that it's they are white. Well, then they got a cowboy hat. Then that's there aren't any black cowboys on there that will say that
Starting point is 04:02:28 farmers only that it's code for white. I have a cowboy hat, but it's not for boys. No, you have a girl. He does. Yeah, I mean, I look fabulous feminine fashion taste and that's fine. Nothing wrong with that. They're better fashion objectively.
Starting point is 04:02:44 You like pretty things and there's nothing wrong with that. They're better fashion objectively. You like pretty things and there's nothing wrong with that. Sometimes you want to look like a delicate little lily of the field and yeah It's funny. He says that cuz I'm think like I don't know how many times I've been sneaker shopping And I'm like this sucks this sucks this. Oh, this is dope. This is dope. This is the wall speaking my language. I'm like, women's again. Fuck. D-bust. Son of a bitch.
Starting point is 04:03:11 I have the same problem with sun dresses. All right, I'm spinning in Macy's. My fucking shoulders, my hairy shoulders, Bob Well, I think you guys my call it a show Is your book on Amazon yet? Yeah, where can we yeah actually by the time this is live? I think today if not tomorrow like I'm literally in the office packaging up hardcovers tonight and shipping them out tomorrow so I think Amazon ebook paperback all that stuff will be out tomorrow too so sick I'm reading in the description well I'll send it I'll send it to you guys too if
Starting point is 04:04:00 you want um I mean I did I did use uh your services I'll buy a copy no I'll buy a copy you guys too, if you want. I mean, I did use your services. I'll buy a copy. No, I'll buy a copy. I've got a, I got a free one. Yeah. And what I'll probably do too is I'll, I'll drop a link for like, for like a week. He's got that audible. He's gonna let the credits roll over.
Starting point is 04:04:24 Taylor's like, I heard 99 cents and said, I'm out. Yeah. Review. That's the whole reason for like dropping the price is like, I really want people to like download it, read it, tell me what they think, leave a review, get the barrier. Leave a good review. Yeah. Leave a positive review because you're going to love the book.
Starting point is 04:04:43 And I would, in all seriousness, I want to buy like a physical copy. I like physical books. Well, that's available. I'll do that. Here's the thing. Like I really, really did try to pack as much value in it as possible. And like some of the things that I found that were really beneficial to me, uh, was journaling and some of these prompts and everything.
Starting point is 04:05:01 So, uh, the publisher was really like pushing back on like, man, you just put so much in here. It's actually a relatively quick read of a few hundred pages, but also put a 30-day journal in the back of it with prompts and stuff like that. So as people go through this process, they can write down their screen time, but also thoughts and different things as they're starting to look objectively at setting and establishing those boundaries around their digital consumption and stuff.
Starting point is 04:05:29 So that's great. Yeah. I'm excited to see what you, what you have to say just based on what you've said here. It's very intriguing. Say the title again. That's the warrior's garden. The warrior's garden. Richard Ryan, an excellent author name.
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