Painkiller Already - PKA 760 W/ SantiZap: Interviewing Hulk Hogan And Insulting Him?!

Episode Date: July 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pka 760 with our guest, Santi Taylor. This episode of Pka is brought to you by Lock and Load and our wonderful merchandise. Santi, we have never ever had a wrestling expert on the show before. And so you're you're storming new ground here. We're all novices. You can get us to believe anything. You know what, Taylor? Let's just talk about hockey for the next two hours.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I know that it's a brand new topic for you. Maybe the audience is maybe interested in the crazy world of the WWE, but just hockey. That's it. Guys, I'm excited to be on. This is a fun little full circle moment for me. I've been watching PK for no word of a lie, like 13 years, 13 years. I've been listening to you guys. I've been through it all. I suffered through redneck you guys. So I've been through it all. I suffered through Redneck, Lefty. I saw Taylor drunkenly berate Lefty.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I was there with Kyle. I was there without Kyle and now I'm here. There you go. You know all the history then. That's perfect. Holy shit, Redneck. I had forgotten about him. Totally forgotten about that.
Starting point is 00:01:02 How did his story end with the show? Cause I remember coming on as a guest when he was also, he was never like a host as much as he was a common recurring guest. Yeah. I think he was a friend of like Wings especially, and it seemed like it was almost one of those open invite things and he was on all the time. I don't think I ever considered him a host, but he was on so frequently, I can see how people would.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Well, people don't know, because he doesn't vibe this way, is he's really professionally successful outside of YouTube. And he just retired early and he's enjoying his life. And I think he's doing well. Sick, shout out to him. Good for him. So Santi, like I said,
Starting point is 00:01:40 I don't know a lot about professional wrestling, but the story within wrestling I spent the most time looking into and researching is, uh, Chris Benoit. Ooh, yeah. That's the story. I guess he'd be my favorite wrestler. Yeah. How familiar are you guys with the Chris Benoit story?
Starting point is 00:01:58 I only know the page one, the other wrestlers that I know one story. Yeah. I know what he did. Yeah. Okay. the other wrestlers that I know one story. Yeah, I know what he did. Yeah, okay. The Sparks note essentially is there was a WWE pay-per-view on a Sunday night and he was scheduled to be there to have a match and he just never showed up.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And this was a guy that was a consummate professional there every single day, early, incredibly respected amongst his peers. And then by the morning news broke out that he was dead, his son and his wife was dead. That's all we knew at the time. Now it's Monday and WWE does their weekly show on Monday and they had something big special lined up.
Starting point is 00:02:38 There was a big followup to that pay-per-view. Outcomes Vince McMahon to an empty arena to tell everybody that Chris Benoit has passed away. pay-per-view outcomes Vince McMahon to an empty arena to tell everybody that Chris Benoit has passed away. They do a two hour tribute and they send out wrestlers to talk about what an amazing person he is. What a great father. What a great human being. It's important to note. Okay, this is this is kind of ridiculous. I'm sorry, can I interject?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, yeah, more detail. Vince McMahon had was at that moment Like in a storyline where he was dead. He got murdered Into a limo it Exploded and the storyline was gonna be the clue who done it because on his way to the limo There were like six seven different wrestlers that gave him a funny look and the story storyline was going to be who blew up Vince McMahon's limo. But then yes, but then the very real death of Chris Benoit forced them to pivot everything and they very hastily did that tribute because within like two hours it came out that he had killed his son, his wife,
Starting point is 00:03:45 and strangled himself from his Bowflex machine. Like super, like dark, really messed up stuff. If you want to like talk about like silver linings from like that horrible situation, that's the reason why the NFL has such great like concussion protocols. Because they, he was one of the first major athletes that they checked his brain inside and out what happened. And this man had so many concussions. He had the brain of a 75 year old in his early forties. And that led to a huge discussion about CTE, um, WWE, putting in a bunch of measures regarding concussions, drug usage. Uh,
Starting point is 00:04:21 and now it's a much healthier product. Unfortunately, uh, started from such a dark, dark, brutal, real life thing that happened. It is funny how many bad, poorly timed things happened in a row, in a way. Like, tragic, he kills his entire family and himself, but then in like a two hour window, they do a whole like, oh, you should have known this guy, he was a real champion.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And like, and then it comes out and they have to backtrack. Do they pull all that footage? Like, we're not gonna air this anymore. Yeah, so basically after that happened, Vince McMahon once again comes on air and says that they will never mention his name ever again. To their credit, they never have. There is of course archival footage of all of his matches,
Starting point is 00:05:05 but that's about all that you can find from him. They don't mention him. They do nothing regarding him. Yeah, it is very much a black sheep story when it comes to WWE nowadays. Is that the worst thing that's ever happened within WWE? I would say, non-story like non-story wise. Yeah, like I don't think it gets as bad as that.
Starting point is 00:05:28 There was this story of Owen Hart as well. And yeah, I know him. Yeah, it was another pay-per-view over the edge. 1999 was the name of the pay-per-view and Owen Hart, a very respected wrestler. Like somebody that is was seen as the cream of the of the crop, one of the greatest to ever do it. He was basically being put through a humiliation ritual because his brother, a far more famous wrestler Bret Hart had defected from the WWE and gone to the competition named WCW.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And afterwards, this very respected wrestler was put in like tights and a mask and he was like this like superhero Like the most degrading thing that you could make somebody that was this respected to be doing and in wrestling and They were gonna have a bit where he was gonna have a match against a wrestler called the Godfather Who came out with something called the ho trained Woody and where you've come out and there'd be like 50 girls behind him. And that those were his hoes. And he was a pimp. That was his character. Okay. Yeah. And the blue blazer was supposed to come down from the rafters. And he was supposed to the the wire was supposed to stop like five feet
Starting point is 00:06:41 before I landed. He was supposed to land all doofly, right? Like, oh, he can't even make his entrance right falls from 70 feet from the rafters. Somebody didn't do their job. Somebody messed up. And on live pay-per-view in front of the 15,000 people that were in attendance, this man just falls flat to the ground and just dies. And how do they handle it after like in the immediate situation? It was a huge success.
Starting point is 00:07:08 They went a little a little far. This is where like there was a lot of like backlash towards WWE. Vince is like show must go on. They spent maybe 10 minutes after this man died in front of everybody. It's like, all right, a nation of domination, get out there. It's time to fight DX. And like these guys are, they just saw their friend die on TV and they had to announce it to the people watching at home that like Brett Owen Hart has passed away and every like,
Starting point is 00:07:40 no one wants to go out there and fake fight after their friend just fell from the rafters 70 feet. So Taylor you tell me which one's worse Well, definitely the the family murder. Yes more people died. I agree But that it would suck to be like imagine you're already not in the mood You're dressed up like a luchador and you're like, it's a job. And then a guy that you like dies in front of you and you have to go out there and be like, listen here, Larry lightning, you're not the king of the ring.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Or whatever, whatever happens in wrestling. I'm the shock master. I'm the shock master. Yeah, that's a more lighthearted wrestling story that I enjoyed is and low effort, how low effort the Shockmaster was like if I don't know if that was WCW or WWE but if if that were WWE it seems like an inside man from WCW got his hands on a character and was like and like kind of dress him like a like kind of like a Nordic pelt trader and also also must do something like that. And like bedazzle it though, bedazzle it not a standard storm trooper head. No, it can't be intimidating whatsoever. Cause he was supposed to like they, cause remember initially he was supposed to be
Starting point is 00:08:57 like Billy bad-ass, he wasn't supposed to be a goober. He was supposed to say, so he was the secret partner for a wrestler named Sting a legend in southern wrestling and Sting is hyping this guy off like you guys have no chance. My partner is none other than the shock Hits he comes through the law like the Kool-Aid man falls and trips his helmet rolls Practically looking for his helmet to put it back on. The first second of his debut was the end of his career. Oh yeah. For some reason I thought he had a fur pelt on. Maybe that fell off in the tumble. Because this is post tumble after he frantically puts frantic back on and he's doing hand motions
Starting point is 00:09:45 Trying to catch because he's not talking it's some guy on a mic And so he's trying to catch up to the lines and so the guy behind there is like I The guy started talking immediately like I am the shockmaster and I will come for you It's always like hi. It's me and you and I just trying to catch up with the hands catch up with the hands. Oh my god. It's so fat too. Look, this is not the physique that I want to see in my pro wrestler. I like to see just people who look like superheroes. And look, I don't know what contributed to what's his name murdering his whole family, but steroids are required. All right, like if you can't handle your steroids, you shouldn't be a wrestler. They need to be enormous. The bigger the better. Mark Henry, Mark Henry's weightlifting stats are absurd. He's literally one of the strongest human beings
Starting point is 00:10:35 who's ever existed. That's the kind of wrestler I like. That's fair. Like they say that steroids are a banned substance in the WWE, but I think anybody that has a semblance of understanding of fitness knows that these bodies just aren't possible. Nowadays, Kyle... In their 40s, 50s and 60s too.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It's a lot less prevalent. There are a lot of wrestlers that you look at and like, you could achieve that with some P90X and a good five day routine at the gym or something like that. You definitely could. But like... Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You can, if you want to look up somebody like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can, if you want to look up somebody like, uh, maybe you pull up a picture of a wrestler named Adam Cole, that is a very popular wrestler. He, that is a guy that you might just find at your regular local gym. But then you see somebody like a John Cena who's 47 and is just jacked to the fucking gills. I don't think that that's chicken and a daily dose of your vitamins and saying your prayers. Cena looks really good. Like he's got a lot of almost naked scenes in what was that?
Starting point is 00:11:35 Trainwreck. Peacekeeper or a peacemaker. Peacekeeper to peacemaker, yeah, yeah, yeah. In peacemaker, he's there in his like little boy briefs and he is just, it looks like he's carved out of marble. Like if you were carving him out of marble, you wouldn't be like, ah, let's make this a little bigger that a little more defined.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You'd be like, no, that's perfect. He nailed it. He looks incredible. What about that doesn't scream natural to you? The veins, the enormity, the mass, his age. That's just me and you maybe. Yeah, his age. That's just maybe. Yeah, he's he's pushing 50 at this point. He's a lot older than people than people think.
Starting point is 00:12:11 He's been around now for a really, really long time. I had a friend, he's passed away since he had a muscular dystrophy. And I met him back in like 2004 and he was one of the few people that I could talk wrestling with. And in 2006, this bitch, he got a make a wish. And I was like, dude, you got a John Cena. We have to meet John Cena. I mean, you got to meet John Cena, but I'm coming. We have to meet John Cena. But he ended up going with a PS three and a bunch of games because it just came out and we get a John Cena.
Starting point is 00:12:44 That sucks. That sucks. How long do you have to uh like if you do a make a wish you'd even think about you for his make a wish. Do you have a limit like if he made a wish and then maybe a period of recovery and then gets really sick again four or five years later do you get to double dip or are they like, no, you've not make a wish. I don't think so. He, he only got one, if he got a second wish and he didn't get John Cena, then I'd be really mad at him.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Was he terminal? Is how did he do? So he passed away like deep into his twenties. He lasted a long time with muscular dystrophy and it just kept getting more degenerative. He and he had a twin brother and they both got it. It's just that, yeah, it's the worst hand I've ever seen like a mom be dealt because she was also a single mom as well, it was-
Starting point is 00:13:33 And then it was Crispin Watt. Yeah. And then it was Crispin Watt, and then it was like tragedy in the wrestling. Yeah, that's a rough mom situation as well. Yeah, she had it worse. Yeah, even more difficult than a lot. Is John Cena still a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So John Cena was the good guy for over years. He was the Superman, the ultimate good guy. In fact, I think he he announced the death in the in the execution of Osama bin Laden live on TV. Yeah, he had it was like in 2011. After a show, he comes out on a microphone. He's just like, I just wanted to let you all know that we have found and ended to a permanent end. Oh, sob of it. Laudin kids thought that he killed those. That way.
Starting point is 00:14:21 You think the sting was with him? He's now in 2025. He's in his retirement tour in the WWE. I think he's ready to go fully into Hollywood. Nobody actually retires. They come back for that juice every time they need it. I agree. But then John Cena is actually mega rich. Most of these guys come back because they blow through their money
Starting point is 00:14:41 and are terrible with finances like Ric Flair, who has had 17 different retirement matches. John Cena has Hollywood. So when he says retirement tour, I actually believe John Cena, but you're right, Kyle. That is actually like a trope in wrestling where one last match. Yeah. Okay. Fuck you. We'll see you in five years, but I'm going to be back. They'll forgive Hogan again. I actually, I don't even know is Hogan still on the outs with the organization because I
Starting point is 00:15:04 know he's like gone in and out a couple times seemingly with all the n-word stuff and the sex tape and you know his whole thing Being awful. Yes So Hulk Hogan was actually paraded out by WWE a couple of months ago in their debut of Raw on Netflix, right? Like, let's bring out Hulk Hogan. He comes out there with his old manager, his name is Jimmy Hart, this tiny little guy with a megaphone.
Starting point is 00:15:34 They go out there and it's to promote the brand new American beer. I guess there's, WWE has a stake in that beer. And head to toe that arena was booing the fuck out of Hulk Hogan. And he goes on podcast later on to say that, oh, it was a lay brother. You know how it is in LA. They just I'm still a heel over there, but they still remember the NWO days. It's Hollywood. Hulk's fucking dark goatee.
Starting point is 00:16:03 No, I think it's the racism in the. what he said. Oh yeah. It was Hollywood Hulk's fucking dark goatee. No, I think it's the racism and the, I mean, no one will ever know. He genuinely believed that he was such a good heel in the nineties that they still hated him in LA. Cause he, he's on this podcast saying like, you should see what me and the boys were doing in the nineties over there. It's still, still, it's still resonating over there, but hey, you know, I felt that heel heat and I was like, all right, all right, dude, Hogan is a crazy human being. I had him on my live stream. About two years ago, he was doing his apologetic tour for everything that he did. So we were doing a
Starting point is 00:16:38 live stream for the Boys and Girls Club of America, all of the biggest like lob ball toss questions to Hulk Hogan to try and make them look good. We were talking about like getting into fitness as a kid with the Boys and Girls Club of America. And I think I accidentally like insulted him because I was like Hulk, you know, you got into exercise really early on through the Boys and Girls Club of America. I'm sure that exercising that early on in your career really helped you pick up the 500 pound giant at WrestleMania three. There's like a weird like three second pause.
Starting point is 00:17:11 He's like, but brother, before we continue, you should know that he was closer to 700 pounds that night under the giant. He was not 700 pounds, but I'm going with it because it's his thing. My god! I'd say maybe 800. As if someone would hear 500 pounds and be like who even cares? That's a big weight. He barely picked him up too right? He didn't lift him and hold him did he?
Starting point is 00:17:42 All right don't you tear down the Hulkster. You act like you know who I've lifted. He didn't lift him in all of them, did he? All right, don't you tear down the Hulkster, all right? You act like you know who I've lifted. You've never lifted Andre the Giant. According to you. His name is the Giant. Tell him, Jack, Woody lifts giants all the time. No, you're right, he didn't exactly like press him
Starting point is 00:17:59 over his head, but he got him up and there was a brief pause. And I mean, that looks good to me, right? Up is relative, right? Look where his asses, right? That's, that's high. That's a guy that can't help you either. His feet, like his belly, but he just pivoted on his belly button and went head first. I don't think he can pivot. I don't think the Andre the giant was so immobile at this time. Like even like right now, you know, somebody that's really big,
Starting point is 00:18:24 there's a wrestler called Omos 400 and something plus pounds is seven foot three. He he's athletic enough to give you a little bit of an oomph to help you pick them up. But Andre the giant was entirely immobile at this time. He was he was a shell of himself. So I do I do think Hogan Hogan picked them up, mostly all him. But it was 700 plus pounds, fuck me, right? I heard eight, but I did see him do a little.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I just watched the clip a couple of times. Andre does one of those like little assistance jumps, but a lazy assistance jump, just like a push off with the toe, not even a full jump. And so it was Hulk doing that. What? I've just watched it three times. Maybe Hulk lifts some six inches more than he would have otherwise been.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Oh no, there's no way that Andre was, he was barely actually jumping. It seems like if anything, Andre was like phoning in the assistance part, like, yeah, I'll push off with my feet a little bit. Yeah, you know, he told me that he went out there and he didn't know whether Andre was going to let him win or not. Yeah. Yeah. I guess Andre had a history of being, you know, 15 years undefeated, never pinned. And Andre just made the call because who the fuck was going to tell him otherwise. Andre got to make the call on the spot and I guess they both went out there. And even though Vince said, Hogan, you're going over Hogan always. I got to wait until the giant actually makes the decision that I am going over,
Starting point is 00:19:55 which I think would be nerve wracking in front of 70 plus thousand people. Guys, this is a script, the thing we don't fucking know the ending. What's going on here? That would be fun to be such a physical beast, such a monster like Andre, that like you could ruin storylines. Like some, imagine being so giant that like a six foot seven Hulk Hogan can be like,
Starting point is 00:20:15 hey, can you, you wanna help me out here, please? Like, I don't wanna look like a homo in front of this big crowd. Like, don't pick me up. Do you think Hulk could beat up Andre at the time? I know Andre's bigger and stronger. I'm not asking who can lift more. Who would win a fight?
Starting point is 00:20:29 Because one guy's not athletic at all. Is Andre a lot older than Hulk Hogan? He had his size. He's a lot closer to death. He's got his philatating back issues. That's true. Yeah, it's hard to tell fights when people get to freakish size.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Because to your point, Woody, they do start getting issues where like, who's that NBA player, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Like he's just now getting to the point where he's like using canes from what I see. But just a few years ago, he was like seven foot two walking around unassisted, just like an old man. And it's jarring to see because you never ever ever ever see people that tall that old or walking under their like without assistance at that age like
Starting point is 00:21:12 if andre had was still around he'd you'd been rotting in a bed forever and he never would have been around still because he was crushing fucking 100 beers and 20 bottles of wine a night and 600 cheeseburgers maybe he's the only guy if he would have picked a different path in life, he could have been the Joey Chestnut. Oh, I would like to see that prime Joey Chestnut versus like a prime young hungry Andre the giant. I would like to see that. I would still probably take Joey Chestnut because he's that guy's a beast in himself. Have you seen him smile? I don't think he's got so much mouth. I would like Andre in that contest. Like if Andre chain trained for that, here's why because I feel like Andre's
Starting point is 00:21:49 throat can he doesn't have to chew as much like he can almost swallow a whole hot dog, right? Like he's just they won't choke him. He can just throw them down. It's also the the holding ratio he can hold many more dogs than Joey chestnuts in his hands. So I think the distance of hand to mouth with hot dog is going to always be shorter with Andre the Giant. That's true. And if some judge is like, Andre, you ate 68 hot dogs and Mr. Chestnut ate 72, he'd be like, I ate 73 as he like grabbed your shoulder and you'd be like, my mistake, sir, 73 for you.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I knew Andre growing up from Princess Bride. I knew him as that character and loved him for that. And he was just such a wonderful, it showed through what a kind person I thought in his role because he wasn't a great actor. I feel like you're just watching, seeing Andre on screen. You're like, and he seems like a nice guy. And as a kid, I loved Andre the Giant. And I fantasized about like having a buddy who was
Starting point is 00:22:48 that big. There's a scene at the end where they all they all need to get out of the castle and Andre's like, jump. He just catches them one by one. Of course, he's not really catching them, but like someone his size could. He was even in that movie, he was not well healthy. size could. He was even in that movie, he was not well healthy. I mean, he doesn't I've never seen a picture of him looking well. Like he's a giant. I watched the documentary about him and you see him. I think he's from France and you see him when he when he's young and when he's young, he's a different body type.
Starting point is 00:23:21 He's still a giant, but he's not he's not that guy yet. Is that the progression of the disease, though? different body type. He's still a giant, but he's not, he's not that guy yet. Um, is that the progression of the disease though? I don't know even know what his issue was specifically. It's usually like acromegaly or something like that. Acromegaly something megaly. I'm not sure what his, he might've just been a big guy. I don't, I don't know what his deal was.
Starting point is 00:23:46 It says symptoms of gigantism. That should be a big. Yeah, I think he's just a big fucking dude. Yeah, his voice was so deep, like everything about him was interesting. His when you see him hold a beer can, there's famous photos of him holding a regular 12 ounce beer. It's like, my God, it looks like one of the little mini cokes you can buy that they're just his fingers are these giant sausages.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Everything about him is tremendous. This summarized sentence from WWE dot com says he did have acromegaly and that he was six foot three and 200 pounds when he was 12. Oh, fuck. Now, that's crazy. That's a big boy. You see that three at 12. I'm impressed by that bracelet.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I know that is so a lot of gold in that. I'd still like this is like an optical illusion. I'm like, that can't be the size of a beer. Like, that's probably also that's probably a wrestler friend to his left. So it's probably not even like a tiny handed man. No, I would imagine that's a big man on the left side too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying is like, it's probably his like six foot two buddy. What his dick was like, probably always. Yeah. Like, imagine like like how scary it would be being the lady he's crawling on top of you and like this could be Proportionally big it's a problem right like every
Starting point is 00:25:16 My dick would look tiny on Andre the giant. I mean That would be tragic if he had like Everywhere except the penis. Yeah, everywhere except that. He's got like giant back moles and other weird giant stuff, but no, but just a regular ass dick. I think he can shut off because he has monster hands. I had a buddy in football that had gigantism on his balls but
Starting point is 00:25:45 just his balls. He had a regular size wiener but like his balls were just so big that we're just like man it's just the proportions wrong here man. Did you get that checked on? I don't know if you ever did. He was a couple years older than me so once he graduated he's gone. Let it ride. to use gone let it ride. You know you just looked at it sounds more like a two it was elephant. Gigantism is what it was elephant Titus is what he had elephant Titus
Starting point is 00:26:12 of the nuts. That's what he claimed he had yeah. Okay. Oh well if he claimed I knew a kid with a bird. No no no I saw it here and he said he got attacked by a shark and I believed it I was 10 and I was like wait a fucking minute. What else could his massive balls have been if not elephantitis? Doesn't like uh oh wait is is elephantiasis like fluid leaking in there? Is that what because I
Starting point is 00:26:37 think a lot of the time when your sack gets huge it's not like your balls are becoming giant. It's like there's some issue where there's a bunch of fluid leaking in there right are becoming giant. It's like there's some issue where there's a bunch of fluid leaking in there, right? Or is that not the case? It actually literally makes your testicles like, I don't know, apples? Massive balls is a symptom of congestive heart failure. I got you. I got you. Okay, so elephantitis of the testicles, also known as scrotal elephantitis, or massive scrotal lymphedema, is a condition where the scrotum becomes severely enlarged due to a buildup of lymphatic fluid. This is well, is caused by lymphatic obstruction, often due to infections like lymphatic filari, filariasis, filariasis, a parasitic disease.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Well, I hope it could also be called by tumors, tumors, radiation and surgery. Oh, Jesus. Well, I hope you got that looked at. That doesn't sound good. You don't want that to spread. Large balls are associated with testicular torsion, just saying.
Starting point is 00:27:36 You got some honkers down there, huh? Couple of corn hawkers. People say it, I've heard that. People say it. I've heard that. Everyone's talking about it. Word on the street. I saw a runner the other day, a sprinter, The people say it. Everyone's worried I'm straight. I saw a runner the other day, a sprinter, and his cock was so big. He's full speed.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You know what Olympic sprinters look like? They look like antelopes with this full body movement. And his cock comes out the bottom of his shorts and he's he's running so fast and hard that his cock is doing a full up and down flop as he goes. Pumping with his arms. It's coming up to his belly button. It's going halfway to his knee. He's trying to tuck it down.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And also when the race- Oh, he can't do that. It was hilarious. You can't take a second to tuck. You've trained so hard and so long to be there. Your dick falls out. The hard just happened unexpectedly. Your dick falls out. The heart just happened unexpectedly. Your dick falls out when you're in like an Olympic trial.
Starting point is 00:28:29 You gotta go, man. You deal with that after the race. The whole scheme ahead. I didn't waste all my time training just for a wardrobe. You got a modeling job afterwards. I'm reading here. Have you guys seen the new movie 28 years later yet? No. Okay, so it's the sequel to 28 days 28 weeks later, it's infected people zombies, the scariest zombies you can imagine turn within five
Starting point is 00:28:53 seconds and they're sprinting at you. It's fucking terrifying. The 28 years later, the zombies, some of them have mutated to the point where now there's an alpha. And the alpha is just a zombie with a 13 inch dong and it's Sprints at you and with this thing just flopping at you like an elephant and I'm like I'm like, man I don't know what the scariest part of the zombie is the zombie part or the massive shlong
Starting point is 00:29:19 Flipping at you as you're trying to run away from him. It's a good movie, by the way 28 years asset threat that like he's not just gonna bite you. He's gonna, it might bite you, gonna molest you. Yeah. If anything, like, it feels like the dick and balls would be the first things to like rot off. Yeah. If you're they're not typical zombies in 28. They're, uh, they're not about that. Yeah. It's the rage virus type thing. They're still kind of rotted. Aren't they? I haven't seen, I've seen that like once. They explained that after so many years that the rage virus for some has
Starting point is 00:29:55 mutated to work like a form of a steroid, which is why they, the alphas have become bigger, stronger, faster, bigger Dick. Well, that's a big dick. I'm looking at it right here. You're looking at it, you see it? Yeah, but Woody linked it right there. He's got a hog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Careful, don't click the link that Zach sent. I jokingly said, send a picture of scrotum elephantiasis. And I think he did. I'm not opening that, Zach. Thank you very much. I knew there was some Ric Flair news from a while back that I hadn't read but this happened on the the Tampa subreddit some guy says
Starting point is 00:30:32 Does Rick Flair keep coming to your restaurant and shitting himself question mark? That man has shit himself six times this year drunk as fuck at bars and other restaurants He gets thrown out of water street places all the time. Anybody in the service industry having to deal with this shit too? I've seen the post too. I mean, let him have his fun. He's right at the end. Let him well, I mean, shitting your pants. It's that's pretty inexcusable. If he was just pissing if he was just a bit of a Nissan. Yeah, that would be fine. You know, he's just like having his laugh. Of course, he's incontinent.
Starting point is 00:31:09 He got his head bashed a million times for decades. But if he's, I mean, I can forgive an elderly person, shading themselves. But if you're coherent enough to still go to bars, I feel like now you're being inconsiderate going to the bar and shitting yourself at the bar, right? Like true. Yeah, if you're there enough to go have fun, you're there enough to know to not shit yourself After you do it Like I don't know how you can get like return after if I went to a restaurant shit myself The pool or marking that one off the list not going back there. Oh, yeah Yeah, that sentence in school if you shit your pants.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Like it followed you for the rest of your life. I can't imagine how horrible it would be. The other Kyle pooped his pants. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Second grade, he was in the bathroom way, back in second grade, you didn't have to go to the bathroom down the hall. Between the two rooms, there was a bathroom,
Starting point is 00:32:01 if that makes sense. Like you could walk from one classroom into the other and in between there was, there were bathroom doors and then like a space and then another door that led into the next room. And then there were bathrooms in there and he was in there for way too long. And Miss, well, whoever,
Starting point is 00:32:18 I can't remember my second grade teacher, Thurman. Thurman, yeah, Miss Thurman's like, come out of there, it's been so long. And it's like, even. Thurman's like, come out of there. It's been so long and it's like even second grade I'm like probably should. So his mom had to come bring in some clothes and stuff. It was very embarrassing. Never.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You don't know you didn't. This that was what you were in second grade, so that's seven years old. Yeah, seven. I followed you to the end of the early something years. And you still remember that other Kyle pooped. And at least he didn't uh I never saw this happen but it's always the trope that like a
Starting point is 00:32:54 kid poops themselves and then they have to wear like a free pair of gym sweatpants. No. Lost and found or something. No, you always get the parent to come and bring them some some some fresh clothes. You can't like put them in some sort of lost and found wear and like go go throughout the day, especially not. No, that would be child abuse. If anything, you got to sit in the office for a while. You sit in it and learn your lesson like that.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Some other nose in it. Like what do you think? You can't do that. Oh my God. Did you guys ever have to deal with any sort of like story. Some other nose in it like what do you think? You can't do that. Did you guys ever have to deal with any sort of like story or stigma about yourselves in elementary school or anything? I have one. No I didn't be a poop myself. I kept it together. I never peed or pooped myself and I never had an untimely, what I remember being the biggest thing as a young kid were untimely vomits like just kids vomiting and I never had a vomit issue either but I remember there the biggest thing as a young kid were untimely vomits, like just kids vomiting. And I never had a vomit issue either.
Starting point is 00:33:47 But I remember there's this one girl, Ashley was her name. And in like kindergarten, it felt like once a month, we'd be like finishing the picture of a bicycle or spokes or something onto like a complete, like whatever stupid nonsense they were doing when the teacher was hung over. And this girl would just out of nowhere, just throw up all over her desk. And the teacher by the end was like, Ashley, go to the nurse. I'm just not even concerned about it.
Starting point is 00:34:15 That's fucked. Yeah. Big shout out to Ashley. She was a nice girl. I guess I prefer. I think I would rather. I don't know. I don't want to know. Vomit over shit your pants all day. 100%. All day.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Even vomit over pee. Because if you vomit, it's like, what happened? You're sick. I was sick as hell. If you piss your pants, and certainly if you, actually, if you piss your pants, you can't use the excuse, I was sick, because that doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:34:40 If you shit your pants, you can use the excuse, you were sick, but it doesn't give you any leeway. No leeway. So vomit by far, I would have much rather been a vomit kid than a pooper pee kid. I had to shake off the stigma in grade seven, not stigma. I guess the rumor that I was special needs in grade seven. Because throughout like all of my elementary school, so we came as refugees from Columbia to Canada. So one of the things my
Starting point is 00:35:05 parents always made me do, they're like, you need to volunteer with the special needs classes. So every week I spent like one day in the special needs classes to like play with them, whatever, be a friend with them. And the whole reason was like, once we came to apply for like citizenship, my parents could be like, well, look at this great example that our son literally the whole reason great example that our son is literally the whole reason why they're doing it. It was it was building up my my my XP stats for my character. But I came to a new school for grade seven and eight and it was like halfway through the year. And it was the start of the second semester. So you're coming back from winter
Starting point is 00:35:39 break and in Christmas. And the first thing my parents make me do is a find those special needs go volunteer. So I go do. How old are you again? Grade seven. So 12, 13 ish. At grade seven, I would have, I wasn't even in school, but I would have had an option to join the special ed group. That's, it's interesting that they allowed you, you're like going into their classrooms and like- To go into their classroom, play with them, socialize.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Kyle tested out of the special needs group and now he's bragging about it. I go into this new school, do the whole thing. All right, first week, first day that I'm hanging out with them or whatever. And then there's like a dodgeball tournament that the school is putting on for like a pep rally for the start of the new semester. And I asked like the special needs teachers on like, can we like enter into the dodge ball tournament? So I make a team with like all of like the highest most elite special
Starting point is 00:36:33 needs care kids in the in the classroom. We make a team of like six we enter the dodge ball tournament, but this is like my grand unveiling to like the majority of the school. So I'm trodden out there with the special needs kids for this dodgeball tournament. Everyone just assumes that I'm by the way, at this point, I look like a 20 year old with a beard I hit puberty way too early. So I think they just thought that like, did you have your t shirt tucked into like athletic shorts or something? I probably was wearing something goofy
Starting point is 00:37:03 like that. It was the early 2000s. So like baggy athletic shorts was definitely, it was definitely the fit. So like playing with the special needs kids in the dodge ball tournament definitely took like a solid, like six months to convince everybody that I was also not special needs. We did well in that tournament because they were like, all the teams refused to throw at us.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Cause while they're like, dominate this blind school. They're like lobbing the ball at us because well half the other kids, our kids are like, in wheelchairs, the other half are wearing helmets. So they're not trying to chairs. Yeah, fucking dodgeball. You can't have a guy in a chair play dodgeball unless you can. If it's like like, hey, take the ball and like throw it and then they'll pretend to get hit by it. Like that's what ended up happening in many of these cases.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Except me, I was actually hocking it. Yeah, you were actually trying. I was the alpha of the special needs team. We won a couple of games. It wasn't until we we. And the reason we won is because they didn't want to throw at us. I would I would hide behind the kids like you're not going to throw at me. You're not going to, you're not going to hit. Stop swallowing your tongue and get your head in the game.
Starting point is 00:38:15 The only ones that were willing to throw at us, like adults were the teachers. We faced the teachers and they were actually like hooking that thing at us. But yeah, it's solid. Like six months of damage controller guys. I'm not special needs. I'm not the alpha of the special needs. I'm just, yeah, that's what they all say. Well, at least you convinced them where they're, you know, hopefully that didn't ruin any girl opportunities where she's like, Oh, this guy's cute, but I saw him playing dodge ball with, you know, button eater and wheels.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And so I don't think I'm gonna be hanging out with them. The girls didn't become a thing for me until high school because that's when I, like my dad convinced me like, don't shave, don't shave, keep waiting, keep waiting until as late as you can before you start shaving. Cause otherwise it's just gonna become a daily thing. So like grade seven and eight,
Starting point is 00:39:02 I've got like the most like Votre Pedro, like mustache throughout all, through the couple years of middle school. That was not going to win me any girls at the time. Yeah, later on in high school when you can shape the beard, you know, shave, then then girls became a part of the the things that I could achieve. And then you even had that in your back pocket there where it's like, guess what? I got a beard and I helped mentally handicapped kids. That helped a lot towards the older years for sure. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah, man. I, the only, I helped mentally like autistic kids from my senior year of high school. They had this thing where it was like, we had to pick a charity to go work with like every, I think it was every Thursday morning in high school senior year. And they had a giant list. It was like part of a project thing, like the way. And so we all had to do this and you had to pick a charity. And a lot of people were like phoning it in, picking the absolute easiest charities. And I picked like a dog kennel charity because I was like, uh, I want to be able to hang out with pups and see dogs. Uh, that w that was not what they ended up doing there. My friend ended
Starting point is 00:40:16 up getting that one. He said it was an enormous amount of cleaning up shit and piss and vomit. Oh yeah. Not a lot of petting, but my dad asked me, my dad was like, you're going to do the dog one? Like, really? Aren't there a ton on there with like handicapped kids and shit? Come on, don't do the don't do the dog one. Like do a real one. And I was like, geez, dad, OK, I'll sign up for this autistic school.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And this was not like this was what? Two thousand eight. And so autistic wasn't what it is now where people are like, I have a fixation on a TV show. I'm autistic. I like to play video games. I'm autistic. I have an interest outside of, you know, scrolling social media. I'm autistic. It was like these, these kids were like, like screaming, a lot of them nonverbal and a lot of them like way too verbal. And there was this one massive kid bigger than me. Like I was a big 17 year old at the time.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And this kid was every bit of like six, four plus. And everyone who volunteered there and worked there other than me, there was one other like large adult man who was in charge, but it was all other than that, it was like all women and female volunteers. And they had foolishly, the second I walked into that office and like,
Starting point is 00:41:22 it was kind of like a playhouse with like a lot of, you know, foam and things to play with. And there was a tire swing in the middle of it. And I was immediately like, that can't, that seems dangerous. And then a lady told me she's like, Oscar loves the tire swing. And so make sure he doesn't push other kids off the tire swing. And I'm like, okay, why do you need a preamble here? And then like the cave troll of Moria, Oscar enters the room, just an absolute monster, this kid. And there was no one else in the tire swing the first time and so it was fine. But I remember one time distinctly, there was this really sweet young, like probably
Starting point is 00:42:03 seven, eight year old kid on the tire swing back turned to the door and Oscar peeps his head around. He's looking to destroy the tomb of Balin with his and he he like starts running towards the the tire swing and these women are like Oscar. No, they had to shut down Oscar before and he wasn't. the tire swing and these women are like, Oscar, no. They had to shut down Oscar before. And he wasn't, he wasn't, it was nothing like,
Starting point is 00:42:31 that kid's on my tire swing, I'm gonna hurt him. Nothing like that. It was just like, tire swing, I wanna play on it and I wanna play on it right now. And so he had to keep an eye on him. But it was fun. See, I'm from a slightly older generation. We had nothing like this for the speds, okay. They were in some, most of them weren't allowed to come to
Starting point is 00:42:49 school. Only the ones with physical stuff really came to school. All the mental ones were gone. They like shipped them off somewhere. We did have a retarded guy who was like 28, who would come around and take attendance named Jody. And Jody would just pop into your room in the morning, like looking all weird, like making weird eye contact. His tongue would always be out a little and be like, hey, Mythwalker, hey, Jody, hey. Like he would always creep on the hot teachers and they knew it.
Starting point is 00:43:17 And like most of them were just so annoyed with him. You could tell the exasperation in their voice, hey, Mythwalker, hello, Jody. That will be all for today. Like give him his stuff. He was always creeping on the girls and stuff. He was a, yeah, he was a little bit of a liability. I think I wouldn't have had Jody walk in those halls unattended. We were all assigned to different kids and it obviously it wasn't us like one-on-one for a kid. We would be like a teacher's assistant to the teachers one-on-one person.
Starting point is 00:43:47 They wouldn't actually trust us. No, of course not. I was 17, I didn't know what I was doing. I could have been a burden. And like a lot of it was like, go do that. Go take care of this, move these boxes, reorganize that, watch him for a minute. He likes to play blocks, go play blocks with them
Starting point is 00:44:00 while I try and decompress. And my kid was like just oscillated between like total spaz outs and being like really, really cool. Like at one point they had to put them in this padded room, which even at the time I was like, what, we, you guys have a padded room here. And then they're like, yeah, we have to put them in there. Sometimes he always pees in that corner of it. Like, all right, tighten the power a little bit. He did. He would be in the corner of the, I'm a hundred percent serious. He would pee in the corner of the pad.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I believe all of this. I can tell you, I can tell you the name of the autistic school. I want to pull all these fragments together and wrap my hands around them real quick. Yes. You had a giant Mongo retard that you met in an after hours program of some kind
Starting point is 00:44:40 and at your school, they had a padded. No, not my school. This was a school for the autistic that every Thursday morning I had to volunteer at. Your drive was at my school. I was at my school. I would drive there in lieu of going to school
Starting point is 00:44:54 for like the first two hours. And then I would go to regular school for like- And he had a pee corner in the padded room. Like she didn't tell me that he always peed in the same corner, but the teacher lady was like, he has peed in there before or like a like a forewarning Yeah, it was like he was that was his way of fighting back and then I've mentioned this in the show years ago my friend A girl in my grade who also volunteered there her kid was the most like I
Starting point is 00:45:21 Always thought of spike from land before time I always thought of Spike from Land Before Time. When I saw her kid, Spike was the one who has that gift people like of like munching all that grass in a very tantalizing manner. And he was the only character in Land Before Time that didn't speak. He was just along for the ride, having a blast, a good time. And that's what this kid was.
Starting point is 00:45:39 He was like mostly nonverbal. He was just, he was in it. He was just having a time. Like he was well-behaved. He made no sense for Spike not to be able to speak. Yeah, it didn made no sense for Spike not to be able to speak. It didn't make sense for Spike not to be able to speak. He was an animal amongst animals, but there was clearly a class system. He was an untouchable, the lowest caste. And this kid that was in there, he had a fixation on Funyuns. And so, but every time he ate Funyuns,
Starting point is 00:46:09 like if I gave you a bottle of rubber cement and said, all right, it's you versus this kid, whoever has more Funyuns on their face in 10 minutes wins a million dollars, go. He would blow you out of the water. That kid had more Funyuns on his face all the time. Just constant Funyuns on his face. But he was just, he was just like Spike. He was just munching. I love the fact that this is all so foreign to Kyle. Cause Taylor, you and I could, we
Starting point is 00:46:35 could swap war stories. I had a kid who, and this is now in high school, so now I'm grade 12, I'm much older. He, anytime he wanted to, to like scream or he got angry. Woody, we're talking about like when I did volunteering for the special needs classes in high school, he just he loved going in this velvet bag. And the teachers would allow to go into this velvet bag. And then you just see him in this velvet bag rolling through the classroom in this velvet bag and there would be students that would see it like walking by they're like what the fuck's going on? It's just John and his velvet bag just just just let him be. Did it look like Santa's bag of toys? It was it was actually very similar. It was like a reddish color and like very velvety. I think yeah you can already you can already picture this same kid. Um, we were playing hide and seek, so I'm with him and then there's another uh, senior student that's with another kid and they're hiding, we're hiding throughout the,
Starting point is 00:47:35 throughout the school. Um, but the other kid that we were looking for, um, I don't know what he had, but uh, he had a tick, I think, where every three seconds he goes, uh, so it was you three seconds. Uh, uh, uh, that's every three seconds. And it's, well, something would trigger it. I don't know what it was. And my kid was smart enough. He's just like, just listen.
Starting point is 00:48:01 So we're at, they're listening throughout the halls of the high school, trying to like, listen for the us us. And he goes and he's just like, it's like the heartbeat sensor in Call of Duty. We're looking for this guy. So you turned it into a game. That's yeah. Yeah. And always anytime we found them, he was the easiest one to find worse hiding spots. Like you could see like his legs dangling out from wherever it is that he might be hiding. And I would see the other like senior student that's with him and we're just kind of like making eye contact. I will say like it was really enriching doing this volunteer work. It gave me a ton of patience for those with special needs and it taught me a lot personally.
Starting point is 00:48:44 But there's a spectrum, but a bag sounds kind of dope, right? Am I the only one who's like, I could slip in a bag. I'd like a velvet bag. Well, I picture like a giant pillowcase. Maybe not something so suffocating. To me, it just sounds awful. It's terrible to be having a blast. It genuinely was. There was a terrible to be right in the bag. He was having a blast.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It genuinely was. There was a point where he had like an audience of like 13 students. That's what I was doing. I went to the phone case. Needed a break. Yeah, what do you mean? What do you mean about the bag break? And so I mean, people were looking at it.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah. I know you've said that, Woody, where you're like, ah, man, these weighted blankets, there's something to them. Like, which understandable. I mean, I had one of those for a while and I got it. So I don't think that's like specific.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Did you ever make like living room or bedroom forts with blankets and pillows and chairs and stuff? All the time. I love that so much. Like the idea of creating my own little like tunnel cavern network. And I know where I got the idea and this fascination with it in,
Starting point is 00:49:46 I think maybe first or second grade for Halloween, they transformed one of the teachers' entire classroom into a haunted house for like little kids. And they had used cardboard and chairs and made a tunnel to like crawl through with like little spooks as you went along through it. And I loved that. I didn't wanna come out of it.
Starting point is 00:50:03 The same thing with they used to do this thing where they had like a fake fire practice thing. Like you'd go into like a fake house and they fill it with fake smoke and you learn how to crawl back out as kids. I love that too. What's the yeah, you never done that. They used to wait you crawl. They fill a fake house with smoke and then you got to try and escape it. Imagine like a, it's almost like a playhouse that you can put on the back of a trailer and they would, they would have it. I remember they had it at like the fair or the circus or something, some sort of like in town get together.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And as a kid, you'd go in there and they fill it with fake smoke and you'd learn how to escape a house that was on fire. And I can, I can still taste like that fake smoke. And I love to do that. fake smoke and I loved it. We didn't get to do that. Oh yeah, it was great. We learned how to survive house fires. Not the same thing, but did you guys do this thing
Starting point is 00:50:51 where you'd chew on a red pill, brush your teeth, and then they'd show you how bad you were brushing your teeth? Oh, one time. Yes, yeah. I didn't like that. I felt like there's no way for me to beat this process. Right? Like it's gonna show up.
Starting point is 00:51:04 That's fair, you know, but then some kids, it's like you're standing out. You're awful at this. You've got hygiene issues. It was on them for doing it after snack time. You ever do a lice check? You ever get lice checked in school? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:19 No, I don't think we had a lice scare. So there was no need. We had a lice scare in, I'm gonna say third grade. Yeah, definitely. And I remember we came in from being hot as fuck outside on the playground in the middle of the summer. And I remember my head was so sweaty and in that cold air conditioning,
Starting point is 00:51:34 she was running that cone through my hair and it was heaven. I remember thinking like, I was like, don't stop looking. Don't stop looking. Cause like she would part my sweaty hot hair and the air conditioning would like blow into that crease of skin. And it was like, oh yeah. It was like when a dog starts kicking. looking because like she would part my sweaty hot hair and the air conditioner would like blow into that crease of skin and it was like oh yeah it was like when a dog starts kicking i almost did that i still think back to how good that felt and the realization that black kids can't get lice because
Starting point is 00:51:57 they just didn't check their hair and i was like what why didn't demarcus get into this this feels great yeah yeah black people don't get hair online, they call us like black people call us lice lieutenants. Needs to be shorter. It's too many syllables. I think it was a Canada thing, but we had lice checks like once every two months, especially during winters because of all the toques and stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I remember when when we moved from Colombia, like we escaped like the Civil War, a bunch of the cartel stuff in great landing in Canada in grade three. That was like my first like, what the fuck you guys check for lice you dirty, dirty people. How am I the third world kid? And you're needing to be checked for lice? You're disgusting. I had that realization as a child, but then I did get lice eventually, like many of these kids, because they would put all of our toques and hats in like one little,
Starting point is 00:52:51 a toque is a winter hat. Okay. I was picturing a proud foot and a toque and a, is it like a beanie or is it like, I think you guys use the word beanies. Yeah, we use to more here. Okay. Yeah They took I think it's TU QUE. I think it's a French word Started off like TU UK or so. I was to okay. Okay.-K. Okay. All right. It's kind of took, but. I've never been asked that, how to spell it. Okay. You spelled it right. Oh, I instantly found it.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And it's what most people, well, what I would call a beanie. Mm-hmm. I never understood the stigma that came with lice. Oh, it's from filthy poor people. It's where they come from. Like, you get, like, the rest of us can get them, like, because of the filthy poor kid in school. That
Starting point is 00:53:46 is 100% what it is. It's bad hygiene. It's it's like not washing. They there's some sort of a fucking they're they're they're at your house. And like that's where they're from. It's like where do the lies come from Billy's house because it's a filthy and his parents are scum that nobody wanted to say it. But that's what's going on. I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong. It just doesn't coincide with my experience, you know, like hot girls would get lice. I got lice It was always from in class
Starting point is 00:54:12 You would hang your coats in like, you know the closet They'd all be stacked next to each other and lice would transfer from one to the other and that seemed to be where it was From movie theater seats can give it to you Yikes don't like that. Don't like that. Don't like that. Never had lice that I remember. I don't think I've ever had lice. Never had any crabs either. At this point, I'm not sure crabs exist.
Starting point is 00:54:33 You all have crabs? No. I feel like you'd get lice long before you'd get. You know what I read? I read that crabs used to be a much bigger problem before women started primarily shaving down there There's so many people now that at the very least groomed But often just completely shaved their pubic hair off that now lice have lost their habitat That's good. That's outstanding. We're destroying their habitat. Yeah
Starting point is 00:54:59 They've bowed the rainforest Yeah, exactly. Now the monkeys don't have anywhere to, the sloth population has dropped. I don't know why swimming doesn't kill lice. You'd think you'd just dunk in the pool for 40 minutes. They kill turtles, apparently. I've seen some of those little tiny bugs do goofy shit, like, and they can hold a bubble of air for up to 40 minutes underwater.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And it's like, all right, well, fuck. Like, I can't do that. So you're gonna die long before your like head bugs do. Yeah. Zach, find out how long lice may live underwater. Mayonnaise is apparently was a lice killer. I never did the mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:55:36 A bunch of the kids at my school did. We just use medication because I got it. I did get it and confident that wasn't from our household because I always thought it also came from, from dirty people, as Kyle said, that was the, my understanding of life as a kid. I think that's everyone's understanding. Like if you're really banging on all cylinders, hygiene wise, you're not going to have animals living on your scale.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I always thought it was from communal areas. Do you coat your check? I'm sorry. Do you check your coat at a restaurant? You could get like, no, it's true, Woody. But I think the question is like, where did they come from? They weren't born in the communal area. I think the idea is like some dirty kid brought it to the communal area and now Mr. Woodworth has the lice. If they're detected in your home, your parents will do everything they can.
Starting point is 00:56:19 They will eradicate them. Like one, we gotta throw the beds away? Shit, that's gonna be expensive. Can you carpet? Damn, that's expensive. But there won't be parasites living in your house. Whatever it takes. But some people are just like I'm always itchy. You know you just get some people live like that. Bed bugs is the real problem though. From my understanding bed bug infestations are incredibly difficult to deal with. Maybe they don't respond well to pesticides
Starting point is 00:56:46 or maybe the pesticides they do respond well to shouldn't be used on your sleeping surfaces. It's something about bed bugs that make them difficult to get rid of. I think I had bed bugs in college. The first apartment I had in college, my sophomore year, was in a building that I think three or four years after I moved out was condemned just a horrible disgusting
Starting point is 00:57:10 apartment building it was one house that some like weekend warrior owner turned into four separate apartments and my floor was totally slanted and because of the layout and how like slap shot it was together stuff didn't make sense the kitchen was like bolted on to like a bathroom area and like the living room was weird. And like, if you could stand in the corner of the bedroom and see a straight shot through all the rooms, through the hallway to the end of the kitchen. And you were like, like visibly taller if you were on the other side of the apartment,
Starting point is 00:57:44 like you could, if you dropped a marble in my bedroom and you could keep it from bouncing into walls, it would have just rolled and gained speed. By the time it got to my kitchen, it was so slanted. Like you could, you know, when you're walking on uneven ground, you can just tell. And that's what it was. Like, this is my sophomore year in college, the first apartment I had. And I remember waking up probably a couple of months into living there and being like, man,
Starting point is 00:58:06 what are these, what are these bumps on my legs? Like what's going on here? And it wasn't a crazy amount. And so I wasn't worried. And then I kept getting them for a bit. And I had this realization of like, wait, is this what bed bugs are? And so I just Googled like, what do you do about bed bugs? And it's like, you can do this and that, or a lot of people buy a hypoallergenic mattress wrap that seals around your entire mattress. And then all the ones like, if there are bugs there, they're just going to suffocate because now they can't come out in the middle of the night. They're just going to over time not be able to reproduce and they can't get to you. And I put that on my mattress and immediately the marks stopped and the bug bites went away. And so
Starting point is 00:58:44 that was the end of that for me, easy peasy. Do they only infect a mattress? I mean, I know they're called bed bugs, but I thought they got in your luggage and came home from hotels and stuff like that. I've heard that as a rumor. I thought it was always mattresses, but like, I think you might be right.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Like we had a bed bug infestation in my first year of college and it spread to the entire floor. I try to deal with that thing like you spread to the entire floor. I try to deal with that thing like you would like a zombie apocalypse. I try to like Lysol everything when everybody around me was getting bed bugs, but eventually they just get in there. And exactly like what Taylor said, like I was finding like bumps on me, but I was also then finding like, like, like blood streaks on the mattress, which would be like, I don't
Starting point is 00:59:24 know if it's the bed bugs getting squashed or then it is which would be like, I don't know if it's the bed bugs getting squashed or them dragging my blood. I don't know what it was, but it's disgusting. It was vile. My parents wouldn't let me come back home until all of that was taken care of. I was stuck there. Yeah, because they're clean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bed bugs are disgusting. It's like, I'm trying my best to be in my sanctuary right now, in my bed, sleeping, recuperating. And you just know that there's some monster is gonna feast on you. You're at chiggers?
Starting point is 00:59:49 Yes, constantly all the time running around in the yard as a kid. Chiggers are larva. They're the larva of mites and they attach to your skin. You get them in tall grass and they bore into your flesh and leave like a proboscis on the outside so they can breathe and they're just inside you making you all itchy and rashy and the easy you get a ton of them you can get
Starting point is 01:00:12 like your whole like your ankle and like lower calf area i don't know if you got them like that but just covered walking in fields in tennessee with really tall grass and came home with chiggers all over my ankles but i I put nail polish on them. The only I don't paint my nails normally. So they were the only nail polish I had access to was like purple or green or some shit. And so I got all these purple streaks on my ankles for a week. It was it was good to be gone to be rid of them, though. It was a small price to pay.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Those things were itchy. Oh, yeah, they're way itchier than mosquitoes even parasites in general, like really itch me out. I think there was this show on maybe Discovery Channel about it was all about parasites. It was a it was about things living inside of people and them not knowing it. They covered bot flies and all sorts of things. I saw a thing on Reddit recently about how tapeworms were very fashionable at
Starting point is 01:01:05 one point for weight loss. They would, you could go to the store and buy a bottle and it had like a tapeworm egg in it and you can, ladies would take it to lose weight. Yeah. My, my girlfriend would often joke about wanting a tapeworm for her. She's that's bodybuilding. So like to like cut the final like couple pounds before getting on stage, she wanted that tapeworm man we didn't know you can get a lot of your tapeworm they go to your brain sometimes you gotta want it it's not a being healthy competition it's a looking healthy
Starting point is 01:01:37 competition yeah they also like i know and i've seen them not in person, but on the internet, when they're coming out the back end of a dog, the dog will be trailing this 15 foot long and it'll be multiple, like worm that's hanging out of its ass. And it's like, oh God, do I pull or do I cut or do I just run away? Like what? I've seen that with like bears.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I've seen footage of bears with these like super long worms just coming out of their ass and like, man, that cannot be comfortable, brother. I'm sorry. You're going through that. Oh, we talked about that recently. Yeah. Those parasites are disgusting. Oh, yeah. And bears are lousy with them. I don't want any parasites. It's bad enough. I know that we've got those mites on our eyelashes. That, that whenever I think about that too much it bugs me they're not hurting us those ones are fine I guess yeah yeah yeah a tapeworm is way worse than a little mite in your skin yeah yeah I've never known do I have mites on my eyelashes ask like ask grock and then ask and then ask Grock who's responsible for it. Who, what group is responsible for the eyelash mites? It says this, it's likely you have eyelash mites
Starting point is 01:02:57 as they're common and often asymptomatic. However, if you're experiencing symptoms like itchy burning or crusty eyelids, blurry vision or excessive tearing, you might have an eyelash might infestation that requires treatment, implying that there are infestations that don't require treatment. Mm hmm. Exactly. I'm guessing those are the ones Kyle's talking about.
Starting point is 01:03:17 You've got your here. Here's what you do, what he this would be such a great science experiment. Be a couple eyelashes and get the old microscope up and what you like zoom in you like zoom in you like focus focus focus and it's rife with them they're just they're waving they're giving you the birds. The claws. Is that something that like you know about like like parasite infestations? Like if you have one you would know right? probably depends because that's one thing like you know How occasionally you get sick and maybe you need an antibiotic? I don't think in my entire life
Starting point is 01:03:53 I've ever like been put on something for parasites You could be full of them then who knows yeah take your Well, yeah, I take my anti-parasite medication every six days. They like that. I know what he does. He takes his daily, you know, just to be sure. But like now we know where lights comes from. Taylor's house.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I'm so I'm a super spreader. That's where the bloodworms come from. Yeah, I don't know. You might be right with parasites. I don't know. I might take or at least my belief is that I think in the Western world, we've kind of dealt with all the parasites. I don't know what I, my, my take, or at least my belief is that I think in the Western world, we've kind of dealt with all the parasites. It's when you go to a jungle or something that something bores its way into you and starts living there. Those human bot flies are terrifying. They literally lay their eggs in your flesh and
Starting point is 01:04:38 the eggs, the maggots grow and eat you and you have to pick them out of your flesh. That was like a person being infested with human botflies was like the first internet video that really like made me realize that the internet is a fucking file place. That was the there was something called the gauntlet. Did you guys ever have to do the gauntlet? Yes. We watched it on the show one.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I think one of the first ones is a human botfly infestation. If I'm remembering the gauntlet correctly, and then it gets to like, ah, this girl breaks her femur. Then you have to move on to the next one. But I remember specifically the human bot flying, like I think like an old woman's eye or something. Yeah, I everything else in that gauntlet we had to run was totally wiped from my memory after that Ukrainian guy beat someone to death with a hammer. Suddenly I was like, oh man can we go back to those sweet botfly videos? You're right. I wonder how current me, you know, internet hardened 15 years later would deal with that video because at the time I kept watching it with this
Starting point is 01:05:41 mind towards it's not too late. It's not too late. And then it, and then I, then you switch over and you're like, could you just hit him harder? He's still alive. It's too late. I feel like with a lot of the internet content, it starts cause I remember like in high school and you know, college seeing more of like the intense side of the internet with that violent stuff and being like, this stuff doesn't even face me. I've seen so much horrible things on e-bombs world or whatever other sites in the early two thousands. And then you come around to being like, Oh no,
Starting point is 01:06:12 actually this stuff does upset me again. And I'm back to that now where I'm like, you know, even if I could watch this without it ruining my day, it is not an image I want in my head at all. That's why I don't like any of the death videos or war videos. I'm so with you, Taylor. I went through a stretch where I any of the death videos or war videos. I'm so with you Taylor I went through a stretch where I was like, hey look at this I'm like trying to like show it to other people But now I I don't know if it's like I've grown like empathy or for like the person going through something gruesome
Starting point is 01:06:37 Something horrible it must be that because now those types of videos like really really got to me Like they ruin my night actively ruin my night the only thing I don't like even close to that that I watch is the Ukrainian war and because now those types of videos like really, really got to me. Like they ruin my night actively ruined my night. The only thing that's even close to that that I watch is the Ukrainian war. And I usually I almost exclusively watch Ukrainians killing Russians. And so I'm like, these are the bad guys. So when bad things happen to them, they have it coming. But every now and then something so bad will happen to a Russian that I'm like,
Starting point is 01:07:04 ah, God damn, I mean you already got him Stop, did you see the guy? He was hit by something dropped from a drone call it a grenade or mortar or whatever He's in really bad shape So he pulls the grenade that he had on him already to finish the job It's a certain kind of hopelessness to it. It's all I've seen every iteration of that. I've seen them suicide with the rifle. I've seen them. I've seen suicide grenades.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I've seen their buddies finish them off without like, clearly they'd had a conversation. Like if I get blown out of the same internet spaces, yeah, the best or worst maybe is when the drone is coming after the guy and you're seeing through the camera on the drone and they'll throw stuff at the drone. Like they'll throw the rifle at it. And then the one guy who threw a can of gasoline at it.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And it was like, dude, you should have just taken the explosion. Now you're going to, because the gasoline explodes like a fucking internet fireball and just roasts him right there. He's all on fire and stuff. I don't like seeing people burn alive for sure. I've seen a good bit of that.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I saw some Israelis burn alive, I think a while back. They got blown out of a tank. I saw maybe it was during Syrian conflicts from 15 years ago where they shot a rocket at a tank and they blew it up and the inside of the tank had become an inferno and the guys are crawling out of it just fully engulfed. Like they're not going to survive, they're just trying to get out of hell. You know, just crawling out of it. It's a furnace basically that they're inside of. Don't like that either. Don't like seeing people get burned.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yeah, I just avoid all of it. I don't like any of those drone videos where it's like, someone sees that they're dead, and they're going to die. And there's no avoiding it. And it's like, sometimes they beg. It's like literally shooting. It's like the least sport and I know it's war. It's not hunting, but it's like the least sporting thing ever. And it's just like, oh my god, like this person is probably like dragged to the frontline, like wonder what their families like just like, oh my God, like this person is probably like dragged to the front line, like wonder what their family's like, like, you know, they probably don't want to be here.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Like just probably an 18 year old kid too. That's the like, oh man, I said when I was a teenager, I'm like, I'm gonna, I draw the line of cartel videos that those are the ones I won't watch. Now, like it's everything, like I don't want to watch any of that stuff. Those guys have like a very loony toonsy gory way of doing things where it's like hey check this out we're gonna cut his fingers off and his head off and then he's gonna be picking his nose. It's and it's like for them it's art man it's like performative art for these guys it's disgusting. In Colombia Colombia, they were literally called cartel art. They would leave as gruesome a scene as possible. There's something called the Colombian necktie where they would like bring your tongue through a slit in your throat and they'd leave like
Starting point is 01:09:57 a scene of like pretend businessmen with all Colombian neckties doing all sorts of business with money in front of them. But like that was just, it's called cartel art. It's disgusting. That's so horrible. The amount of time you have to have. Everybody's a critic. To be like, all right, you know, we solved it. We killed our enemies. Well, we've got four hours to burn because we also control the police. So have fun with it. Like bring in the most sadistic guy ever, give him a fucking paring knife, give him the lime knife from the bar. It's psychological warfare and it works. When I remember when I first heard about that guy
Starting point is 01:10:33 getting castrated in Ukraine, I was like, whoa, I'm not even gonna go over there to take pictures. Cause I was thinking about going to at least record something or watch or see, or like like I wanted to be there and see what was going on. It seems so monumental. And then they're like, yeah, they caught an American, they raped him to death. And then they then they cut this Ukrainians balls off. And I was like, dude, I don't even want to be on that continent now. I mean, I know better. And the cartel, I feel like same thing. Cartel is so scary. Like, can you imagine like, ah, you know, there is a lot of money in that, and the drug distribution and smuggling
Starting point is 01:11:11 business in Mexico. I think I want to fire my own little startup up. Oh, wait, they did what? That's the competition? Nah, nah, I'm going to go back to accounting school. Like, it's so scary. You don't want to be part of that. Yeah. Yeah, it is scary. They're pretty ruthless. Yeah. I've never seen just like a normal killing on there. I haven't watched it since it's probably been 15 years. I remember I was at the gun store
Starting point is 01:11:38 and my buddy was like, check this out, man. And it was the chainsaw video. That was the last cartel thing I saw and it was almost against my will. But since then I've heard because I watch these podcasts with guys talking about the cartel and how crazy it is down there, that they'll blow people up in fields
Starting point is 01:11:56 with like dynamite and stuff and all sorts of like wacky over the top, almost theatrical killings. And again, it's psychological warfare. It's to, I would be so scared to like fuck with those guys if I knew that's what was gonna happen to me. Like they're- Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:13 You can see being gangster enough to get into a gunfight with somebody. Like, oh yeah, you're gonna shoot me? Well, I'll shoot back. They're like, no, we're gonna torture you for days. We're gonna pump you up with drugs to keep you alive extra long, so we can torture you for days. We're gonna pump you up with drugs to keep you alive extra long so we can torture you for weeks.
Starting point is 01:12:27 We're gonna bury you up to your neck with just your head sticking out. And then we're gonna take an elephant that we trained to play soccer. And we're gonna have you run into it and it's gonna kick your head. And then you're like, Detective, that's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective.
Starting point is 01:12:48 That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective.
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Starting point is 01:13:02 That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. That's a pen detective. where the Medellin cartel and the Cali cartel had fallen, but like these offshoot cartels started taking over in different areas and my dad being like a fairly high up accountant for somebody that was also making money nefariously. He was threatened numerous times with like photos of me
Starting point is 01:13:21 and my sister at our school, for example. So we- So did your family claim asylum? Yeah, yeah. So we originally left under the guise of tourism. We bought tickets. Hey, we're gonna be in the United States for six months. But we already had a lawyer lined up here
Starting point is 01:13:39 to claim asylum all legally. We ended up changing our minds like almost like last minute and ended up seeking asylum in in Canada after being in the States for about a month. It was also just awful timing. We landed in Newark, New Jersey on August 30th, 2001. So like 12 days later, that area is just a fucking mess. And then I think like two months later, maybe you guys can
Starting point is 01:14:03 correct me if I'm wrong. I think anthrax started being mailed to people. Yeah. So it was like a combination of things that's like, yeah, we're going to Canada. The anthrax post office was like, they're like the first heroes on the front lines were firemen. And now it's mail, man. And the whole country was like, nah, it's not. Yeah, I get what you're trying to do. But how would you get my fucking shit here on time?
Starting point is 01:14:37 How about that? Man, so you were you kind of lived Ozark. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, like it's been really interesting now being 32 years old, now being able to have a drink with my dad and my dad almost like revealing the documents that have been censored throughout all of these years and now telling me the real side of why we did this, why we did that. I'll give you an example of something that he declassified maybe like three months ago. We're just having a drink. He's like, Santi, do you remember your friend, Jeffrey? Like, yeah, I remember Jeffrey.
Starting point is 01:15:07 For context, Jeffrey was an older boy, about like four years older than me. He was our barber's son. And he's the one that introduced me to video games. We would play, my dad would go get his haircut. We'd hang out. We got there once for a haircut, and then Jeffrey is vegetative on a bed I was like, oh my god
Starting point is 01:15:25 And I'm seven old enough to know like something happened here and my dad says like Jeffrey fell from a balcony He fell from the balcony hit his head and we don't know if he's gonna make it he ended up eventually making it having a pretty normal life, but with a lot of problems and A couple months ago. My dad's like you remember Jeff, Jeff, I'm like, Yeah, yeah, he didn't fall from a balcony. He found his dad's gun and accidentally shot himself. I'm like, Oh, my, oh, my god. Oh, my god. I'm like, Dad, why would you not tell me that? I'd be more sad. I'd be scared of guns. I'd be the gun safety is like, well, you were being kind
Starting point is 01:15:59 of a dickhead by our balcony. So like, we thought this was a good way to teach you a lesson. Well, I don't have any firearms, but I do have a balcony. So like we thought this was a good way to teach you a lesson. I don't have any firearms, but I do have a balcony. But life has given me lemons here. Your friend Jeffrey, he did eat all his vegetables. Talked back and he didn't do his homework. He goes, did you realize that they lived at a one story bungalow? He goes, did you realize that they lived at a one story bungalow? Revealing a lot of these in like his time in the 80s and 90s living in
Starting point is 01:16:32 Medellin with the cartels, like some pretty crazy stuff. Like my mom has seen some really bad stuff because she lived in like a fairly dangerous suburb in Medellin called last dayrella, during the height of Pablo Escobar. And she lived right next to the police station, which you would think is the safest place that you could possibly live in. But in the late 80s, Pablo put an unconditional hit on every police officer in all of Columbia, whether it was a police officer, federal agent, whatever it might be. You kill one, you get money. And so my mom said, like a daily bodies
Starting point is 01:17:10 being dragged in and out of that police station. And like, fuck, thanks for Canada, man. Like, this is I have a pretty good what it's like to be raised by an accountant. And they laugh and laugh. We are. Yeah. One in the same Woody. Yeah, Woody. I saw this video and I thought of you. I saw this paramotor trike. Can you fly flying over a river and then as a video here, it's real short. This is great. I said this to
Starting point is 01:17:40 everybody. I know everybody was like, oh no I love the OGs guy. Oh jeez. Gee, what? Real life a couple of times. I've seen it be a non incident where They bounce off the power lines because they weren't going straight into it and I've seen it be a really big deal. My friend hit and we call him Sparky now and uh yeah, just like that big like blast of electricity burnt his wing. He felt like that guy maybe 15 feet or so. Uh he couldn't walk for a while. His hips were like broken, like they move sort of independently as two hips. And I was right there. We were there was a farm and to see it from the top,
Starting point is 01:18:32 it looked like a maze, which to a paramotor is an absolute playground. And I was a little more experienced with him. He was like a 200 hour pilot at the time. But he was right at this stage where I would have felt like a dick Mother handing him telling him like don't forget to look for power lines. Don't this don't that over the radio so I didn't say anything and I felt some guilt over that because I Did a high-level pass at like 500 feet another pass at 100 got the whole layout of the place and then started having fun He went straight to the fun part until he ran into power lines. Standing on the ground, power lines are pretty visible, right? You see him against the blue sky.
Starting point is 01:19:12 But when the backdrop is trees and grass, they're very hard to spot. Sure enough, he didn't see him and he ran into him and it made him fall and he got hurt. He opted not to go to the hospital right away, he went the next day, but I had to fly back and get his van and I was terrified the whole time. They call it a fear injury in paragliding and I'm like, I don't even know, 500,
Starting point is 01:19:40 I've done a thousand flights at this point and I'm like, do I still know how to launch this? There are these trimmers on your wings that make you go faster. I didn't want to touch them. I'm like, this fucking contraption's working right now. I don't trust it to make any changes. And I was scared of landing the whole flight home,
Starting point is 01:19:57 which was like 40 minutes. And I did, yeah, I did fine. I landed and I got his van and everything. He turned out to be okay, like long-term, but he had a kind of rough month or two where he was kind of like walking with a cane and not walking and stuff like that. That guy lived.
Starting point is 01:20:16 The guy that went into the water there, he lived. Although you could definitely see how someone would die like that if they weren't fit or if they took a knock on the head or something like that. Just right. I imagine you're strapped into that trike. Um, that's, that's what I would want. I think if I were doing the paramotor, yeah, drowning in a river, semi-concussed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I attached a $12,000 worth of aluminum. I texted you today, like as you're like gurgling into the deep, you hear some guy over the water going, oh jeez. The fuel tank's on the bottom. It can be like the densest weight and uh, when you hit the water oftentimes it's the lightest thing because it's empty and it floats you upside down and creates a real problem. It wants to sort of dunk you. Yeah, the water is a problem. I'm like a quick release thing on you. Like I wouldn't want to be like, clipping style. And I'm out kind of release goes both ways, right? Like you like quick
Starting point is 01:21:13 release when you're trying to get out, but you hate it if like in the automotive world, right? It's a least mine was like a lever across your chest. And all it would take is one like bicep swipe on it and now every clip that's keeping you in this flying contraption is undone. You frantically be like what's a little different with a trike though you know it's a little different with a trike because you're you're in it and that's why I know it's not safer it's probably more dangerous because of the extra mass and everything that you're carrying around and being wrapped in, I don't know. I don't know if it's more dangerous. There aren't stats, but I would feel safer
Starting point is 01:21:48 being in even that small of a craft. And I remember that was my first exposure to paramotors. We'd be out hunting and there was some guy in the area who had a trike and he was like, I'm like, what the fuck is that? Scaring every deer within the tarnation up there. Yeah, I flew by same situation was a different place, but like a farm that looked like a maze from above and not just a big field and I'm zooming around and the hunters pointed their guns at me and it's like you have to do all that. I thought I was alone. If I knew I was bothering anyone, I would have never flown. This was probably after October 17th, so it's understandable.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Maybe, maybe, is it possible? I like to believe they were just trying to get a better look at you through their scopes. I didn't even consider that. I want to say they were shotguns though. You know, I was only 12 feet up, like, Oh, well, Alright, well, nevermind, because I've definitely done that. I'm, I have looked at paramotor pilots with my scope before. I mean, you know, I unloaded the gun and everything, because I've definitely done that. I have looked at paramotor pilots with my scope before. I unloaded the gun and everything,
Starting point is 01:22:47 and I was like, what? I want to look at him. But it sounds like they were threatening you with their guns, which is just... Right? Actually, they didn't even have to do the hand motion. It's noisy, right? It's a flying weed whacker.
Starting point is 01:23:04 It's a two stroke with a exhaust meant to be lightweight, not effective. And I know it's a bother to be near anyone. I don't even like to scare cows. So once I saw there were hunters in a place that I thought was empty, I was gonna leave. They took it too far, but it's- What time of year was it, do you know?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Fall. Oh, yeah, it's deer. Hell, it's dubs to in September or so. I guess it probably varies. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I didn't I didn't have anything against the guy flying. I was like, I'm doing my hand court. And he's doing his, you know, and like, they teach us in training. I'm sorry, I cut you off. First time people see you, you're interesting and kind of neat. The second time, meh.
Starting point is 01:23:48 The third time, you're a noisy flying weed whacker. And that burned into my head. I'm like, okay, first time, just leave. And it's a cool thing. What time do you fly, Woody? I feel like that also matters, like in terms of like how annoying I would find you if I just see you flying around in my neighborhood I'm curious when is like your typical flight
Starting point is 01:24:07 3.4 Sunrise and Sunset that's when the air is the calmest and that's when I fly the the quiet ones with no engine they fly midday so if I have if I'm paragliding midday paramotoring evenings and mornings one last question Woody that guy that hit the power line right into the water, like a scale of one to ten, like how like deadly was that? Like is that just like, ah, shucks? Or did that guy like genuinely have a fear for his life? No, that was a problem.
Starting point is 01:24:39 But water adds a lot of complexity to like it's much harder to save him. It's much harder to save yourself, to self extract. All that stuff gets complicated. I did a training parachute deploy, right? So you have to repack your parachute every year. So why not fucking throw the thing? And so I went over a lake, put my wing in this like messed up condition
Starting point is 01:25:00 where I'm just tumbling with a bed sheet. It's not a wing anymore. And I throw my parachute from that condition. All right, cool, it lands. But then it's doing this thing where in this case, it was a paragliding thing and I've got a big like foam bumper under my butt to protect my spine if I do a bad job.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Well, that big bumper under my butt is now like an inflatable that's trying to flip me over. So I'm using my arms doing like sort of this thing to like write myself and I wanna sit on top of the inflatable. Well, gosh darn it. Like my arms and legs kicking. I managed to put my legs in the 112 lines
Starting point is 01:25:38 going from like my chair to my wing and I'm bundled up and I can't get out of this thing. And I'm a guy who's really comfortable in the water and it was eye-opening. Could I have lived 50 50, but did I live? Yeah. The rescue boat was there. This was a controlled situation and he pulled the boat right up to me, put his arm out and then once I had a grip on somebody, my head wasn't going under water anymore.
Starting point is 01:26:07 But I had to take my shoes off to get out of that situation. Do you have a method of communication? Like I'm thinking, like the extreme example is like that priest in Brazil that got him on a bunch of balloons and ended up getting flown out into the Atlantic and his communication would work and he died obviously. But in like a situation like that, do you have some sort of
Starting point is 01:26:28 communication device on you like fucking help? I'm drowning. I can't get out of this. I'm curious what your fail-safes are in a situation like that. Sometimes we have a ham radio so we can talk to each other. It ties into my headset. It's a helmet with a headset and a mic, a boom mic. So we talked to each other, but I don't wear all those electronics, but I know I'm going in the drink. So no.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Now the balloon guy, looking that up again. What are we doing? It's so sad. The balloon priest guy, he's doing it for like charity, raising money for his church and he just gets on a balloon and a nasty gust throws him right into the Atlantic. Yeah. This guy, what do he, I guess a stunt, exactly what you said, Z Santi. He put a thousand balloons on like a chair like it's a cartoon and then it He did not land where as intended. He landed miles into the sea and died there was a race called the Icarus and It just be a bunch of paramotoring guys fly really far from like Montana to Mexico or something like that
Starting point is 01:27:41 It would take a couple days. Anyway, the organizers of the Icarus were like, this adventure stuff is a blast. Let's do one where we tied a gazillion balloons to a lawn chair and let people race. And it got, well, competitors died at this thing. It ended all of their, Icarus is gone, it sucks. Yeah, who could have seen that coming? Where like your exit strategy is your best
Starting point is 01:28:05 friend with a BB gun, like trying to, you know, not take out too many balloons, but take some, please take some out to build out even King of the Hill. But he left. Yeah, that works though. Someone else did that and it worked. You're talking about the people that died doing it. Well, that priest definitely died. I don't even I think they recovered. I don't think they recovered him. No, they didn't. They were they found like individual balloons that were popped like throughout the various days that they were searching for him.
Starting point is 01:28:34 But they did not find him. That would have been they did find her. On the 4th of July, the lower half of this American body was found floating on the ocean surface by an offshore oil rig support vessel about 100 kilometers from Mase. The remains were initially identified as Carly's from the clothing later confirmed by DNA tests. So they found half of them 100 kilometers away. That's a miserable, miserable way to go. Probably got eaten by crabs and
Starting point is 01:29:04 all types of things. That's a much better Midwestern to go. Probably got eaten by crabs and all types of things. That's a much better Midwestern United States flight to do. That way, if things go awry, you end up in Michigan. Whoopsie daisy. Or just sucks you into the stratosphere. You come across. You come down eventually though. Eventually the balloons freeze.
Starting point is 01:29:24 The guys who get sucked up, like they'll go unconscious. And then when they come back down to the proper altitude, they'll wake up again. It's they've got enough oxygen to stay alive, but not stay conscious all the time. They die. They get hypothermia to die from that Chinese guy with the with the ice whiskers. It's like it's it's like it's out of a movie. It's like the scene from planes, trains, and automobiles when they're in the back of the truck all frosty. Even when things go right, it's cold.
Starting point is 01:29:53 If you have a good flight, you'll get the 12, 15,000 feet. And so I'm there in winter clothes and it's baking on launch. How cold? Do you know roughly 40s? 40s you know, roughly 40s, 40s. Yeah. Upper 40s 50s. Fucking cold.
Starting point is 01:30:10 That is cold. You know, if you're up there for like 10 minutes, it's like, oh, that's chilly up there. But it cooled it cooled me off. Actually, I was hot. But if you're up there for two hours, yeah, it's kind of a flex. If you didn't bring the BBs. I had on a puffy coat and some like insulated pants. But on launch, when you see guys just like really decked out for like Arctic exploring,
Starting point is 01:30:37 it's like, how high are you going? Like, are you that good that you reliably dress for 26,000 feet or something? Like it could be the opposite. Reliably bad that they get sucked up more often than they care. Yeah, it could be. Think about like as you're kind of coming to terms with the fact that your fundraising balloon stunt has gone awry and you're just in your own head being like, we could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash.
Starting point is 01:31:08 We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash.
Starting point is 01:31:14 We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash.
Starting point is 01:31:21 We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. We could have done a car wash. I never understood that kind of charity raising. Like the charity should sell itself. If you're doing good things, people do that for that. The whole, like, you give me a dollar for every bowling pin. I knocked down thing.
Starting point is 01:31:32 It's like, why? No, I want an exact, how, how many are you going to knock down? I know I need to know exactly. Yeah. I don't like that either. We would do that. We would walk for cancer. Uh, and it's like, yeah, you want to sponsor my walk? I was like, no,
Starting point is 01:31:47 I'd only walk against it. Yeah. That was in the office where Michael Scott pledges a hundred dollars, not knowing that it's like per mile. And he's just hoping that like Oscar's niece is hefty. So she can't, that's great. Where are we? Well, I'm guessing five straight line miles from the office. Oh, that's the fun walk for the cure. That was the cure for rabies.
Starting point is 01:32:10 That's the cure for rabies. Which is a threat. If you get it, you're dead. So, you know, it wasn't that song. Kujo. Kujo, indeed. You know it's cujo? It's Spanish.
Starting point is 01:32:20 It's not supposed to be pronounced Kujo. It's cool. They must make a NHL goalie to Joe. They pronounce it incorrectly in the movie and to this day. And I heard I can't think of Stephen King's son's name, but I heard him speaking recently. He's like, even my dad says Kujo now. Oh, Stephen King said it was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was definitely supposed to be cujo. It's a Spanish
Starting point is 01:32:46 Name I believe I haven't read that one. Isn't it? I would guess that it's a dog owned by someone who lives in Maine If it's and I don't remember the location but the the basic premise is at the beginning big st. Bernard who's a sweet boy is Chasing a rabbit I think down arow, and he's bitten on the nose by a bat, then he becomes rabid. And the main character is a wife who's been, I think, shooting on her husband. There's some infidelity going on, and she's trapped
Starting point is 01:33:14 in a hot car that won't start with her small son. And in the novel, the boy dies. That's her payment for her infidelity. Her boy is taken from her by this, you know, there's, you know, Stephen King all there's there's you know, Stephen King's dark as fuck. But in the movie, of course, the boy wakes up and the wife what you know, it finds a 44 magnum. And she and she blasts Kujo. It's a better killer. How did you
Starting point is 01:33:36 know it took place in Maine? Because I've read a lot of Stephen King books and he's from Maine and like, every all in Maine. Yeah, all in Maine or most of them are in Maine. Derry is this is the town of Derry D-E-double-R-Y because that's where I mean Castle Rock. Castle Rock is where Cujo takes place. Yeah. Yeah. I was just saying like he was he probably meant to be said Cujo like as an Americanized because if a family in Maine owns it like they're probably not saying Kujo. I think they would just say Kujo.
Starting point is 01:34:06 What didn't though it was it was the old junkyard man who owned the dog. But it was Kujo. It's definitely supposed to be. Kujo is one I haven't read. And so I will. I believe you know, we used to joke about sniffing or snorting straight rabies before football games. It was just a free workout because I was.
Starting point is 01:34:25 I was wondering, like I was fascinated with zombies, especially as like a teenager and I was 18, especially I was on the movies were on the resurgence and we were into the zombie survival stuff. And I remember thinking like, what if you just got yourself like a shipping container full of homeless men and you infected them all with rabies and waited till they were foaming at the mouth and turned them loose. Isn't that essentially zombies? Yeah, a short lived zombies. How long I think it takes a while for them to die. They
Starting point is 01:34:55 lived long enough to infect others. People with rabies they get was it hydrophobia like they can't their throats don't work. Is there a desire for people with rabies to spread their rabies? Is that a thing? Well, they're gonna be like, I know with animals, they get fucking kooky. Like it's eaten away their brains and made them insane.
Starting point is 01:35:14 So they'll come around people and attack. I've seen people get just attacked by raccoons and possums and stuff, like seemingly for no reason. There was that video recently where the guy's attacked by a squirrel. And it's like, why is that squirrel so angry? Like the guy was in his own business and this squirrel doesn't just run up and bite him and run away. It's all over him. It's like there's a man, it's trying to kill him and then he finally gets it off and it jumps on his dog. The dog's yelping and trying to get away from the squirrel. Like this,
Starting point is 01:35:41 then the squirrel runs away and goes up a tree and it's like, we gotta, we gotta kill that squirrel and go to the doctor. Like I was always afraid of getting bitten by something rabbit growing up. You get afraid of water. You get afraid of fresh air. What's a, that's a terrifying way to die. Just a miserable way to die.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I have to imagine rabies. Yeah. Something's immune to rabies, possums or recoup. Is it armadillos? Or wait, no, the disease thing, I think armadillos can carry leprosy. That's their weird disease thing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Okay. Or maybe they're immune from leprosy, but they can carry it. I don't know. I didn't think anything was immune from rabies. You're right. Some are less susceptible to it. According rodents, mice, squirrels, rabbits, opossums.
Starting point is 01:36:31 I like the idea of a zombie apocalypse with rabies though, uh, as a, as, as some sort of fiction, cause it's all the zombie apocalypse is that start with something that's realistic. Oh, those are to me always the scariest ones, like the cordyceps in, in the last of us, I didn't like the show, but I love the idea of cordyceps cause that's realistic. Those are to me always the scariest ones like the cordyceps and in the last of us. I didn't like the show, but I love the idea of cordyceps. Because that's a real thing that turns ants and slugs into zombies, and is actively trying to spread to other life forms like that. That shit is scary. And I love the way that they explained it in the last of
Starting point is 01:37:00 us. We're like, Yeah, they're not capable of jumping to humans. Unless they need to unless they're able to adapt to hotter weather is then they get into climate change, the world getting warmer and all of a sudden, Portis apps are able to jump into into bodies because of it. I think that's a fascinating way to tell us a zombie tale. But The Last of Us TV show did a terrible job on it. It did 28 years later. You said you saw it. Yeah, I loved 28 days and 28 weeks, 28 years. I feel like I'm a little bit disconnected from it. I love 28 days and weeks because I can put myself in that scenario. That's my world. That's going to shit. Those are people that I that I resonate with. That is a guy that I might, that is a guy in his work clothes trying to run away.
Starting point is 01:37:46 But in 28 years later, it's about like basically a tribe of people that have survived within England that are like bows and arrows. A bunch of people were born after the outbreak. So like now I no longer resonate or relate to these people. Now I'm in the world of fiction. Now it's more like a Lord of the Rings of anything, but like 28 days and weeks, it terrifies me.
Starting point is 01:38:09 The idea of being in a metropolis with a fast acting zombie outbreak that takes literal seconds to activate and turn the person into a raging monster. But that's taken away in years. I still liked the movie and it's set up for more multiple iterations of multiple of 28 years because it ended with a bit of a cliffhanger. But 28 days and weeks, it's where it's at.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Like, I love those two movies. I like to 28 days later. I don't remember much about 28 weeks later. I think I've only seen it once. The core of it is that, like, in that 28 weeks later, I think I've only seen it once. But I would say- The core of it is that like in that 28 weeks, all the rage victims like sort of died of starvation and they're coming back to repopulate London, but very rarely they're immune to it,
Starting point is 01:39:00 but they're still carriers. And then those people reinfect the people coming back. Taylor, I would do yourself. I know you've been told to watch numerous movies and you don't, but I think it is worth it to watch the first eight minutes of 28 Weeks Later. It's one of the most iconic horror movie scenes
Starting point is 01:39:17 that I've ever seen. It is incredible. Is that the man and his wife? Oh shit, oh shit. Is that where the husband and the family's the family I remember that part of it I'll spoil it the wifey left behind who gets pulled off the window is the one who's partially immune So she's a bit of a vegetable. She's not holding good conversations and one of her eyes is bloodshot But yeah, she doesn't tell good stories. So uh So one of her eyes is bloodshot and it turns out
Starting point is 01:39:47 she has the rage virus, but she's not really raging or anything, she's half with it. And her husband kisses her and he gets the virus. He instantly murders her and then murders a bunch of other people and now he told five friends. Jeremy Renner has to step in. That would be horrible. That would be as traumatic for him as leaving the family There's a bunch of other people in Alglas. Like, you know, he told five friends and they told five friends. Oh, that would be horrible. That would be as traumatic for him as leaving the family
Starting point is 01:40:09 is he's like, like three days later, he's like, man, what a horrible thing I was forced to do by my circumstances. The only thing to do now is be a weirdo vagrant and just keep my head straight and try and survive. And then like, you see you're kind of still with it, ex-wife, and you're like, oh, I couldn't have just died.
Starting point is 01:40:29 The kids go back to their old house as they're repopulating London to, you know, see the old place, jump on their playground trampoline, stuff like that, and mom's there. And they're like, oh, good news. We got your kids, we recovered them. They're safe. Other good news. Your wife is still alive. And he's like, well, I told him I saw her.
Starting point is 01:40:53 He should have had a girlfriend. That would have been hilarious. If he's going to wife. That would be a fun scene. I can't be true. I abandoned her. I watched her. If he tore a limb from limb. I don't like movies where it doesn't get going if you don't have morons doing moronic things. And when those kids, what those kids are actually doing, they're going into a quarantine quarantine zone. I think maybe all of London or at least this massive section of it is like walled off.
Starting point is 01:41:23 It should have been shoot to kill if you leave the quarantine. It was, kind of, but because they were children's, the soldiers decided not to kill them. That's why you want Israelis manning those walls. Right? They'd be like, it was that kid or me. I think I saw a rock in its hand. Oh, good job.
Starting point is 01:41:43 That kid might've been infected. Infected with what? The eight-year-old man. The eight-year-old military age man. That kid had a rock. What are you talking about? It's a good movie though, Woody. If you like weeks and days, go watch it.
Starting point is 01:41:57 But I do think there's a little bit of a dissociation with it being so far out into the future. It's hard to relate to. I was so excited about it. I rewatched days and weeks in the last month. Exactly what we did. Exactly. Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly what we did.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Absolutely worth watching though. Go watch years, go watch years. Don't let me turn you away from it. It's still a good movie, but I like weeks and days more. Is it a bit like sort of later seasons of Walking Dead where you've kind of gone tribal? It's a great comparison. Okay. It's a great comparison. Okay. It's a great comparison.
Starting point is 01:42:25 I bet there's a lot of interpersonal stuff or is there maybe other factions and resources fought over and then eventually we leave the gate open. Yeah. This isn't a spoiler, but it's cool to know that the virus is only in the UK. So this virus works so quick that it's technically impossible for it to jump
Starting point is 01:42:46 outside of the UK unless you bring it out physically because it's not like somebody can get it on a plane because they'd have to get infected on their way to the plane and they'd instantly turn and get crazy and start running. You can't board the plane. You can't board a boat. So it's an interesting way to tell the story of like UK being isolated for the 28 years versus the rest of the world. In 28 weeks, Taylor, I need pronunciation help. Is it heterochromia, the two different colored eyes?
Starting point is 01:43:15 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, people with heterochromia are immune to the rage virus because. There's not a lot of those guys. So. No, it's not not super common but they're here and there that's a cool mutation i would love to have heterochromia i saw a youtube video about all of these rare human mutations there's one that makes your bones much much denser than normal that like less than one percent of people have um there were a bunch of them uh the bone one stuck out
Starting point is 01:43:42 was that'd be i bet there's some UFC fighters that have that. Then it just explains how they work. Some athletes that have that. But heterochromia would be a cool one to have. I want to get a dog that has heterochromia. Oh, we had a dog with heterochromia briefly when I was probably 11 or so, my dad bought us a new dog, his name was Chase, and he was a mutt, and he was like a fluffy little, you know, funny looking dog because he had two different color eyes. I think one was like blue and one was brown or something.
Starting point is 01:44:16 And he was, heterochromia was not his biggest problem. Like he was untrainable. Like he, he nothing you said or did or tried like mine. And I know it wasn't laziness. Like we had plenty of dogs and my dad trained all of them and then, you know, they were going to win any shows, but they all could, you know, potty trained, behaved everything, like sit and roll over, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:38 a bag, that kind of stuff. And this dog could not learn anything. You'd be like, chase, you want to go outside? Like, you know, that like trying to amp up a dog to go outside when you're like trying to get it to associate it with a good thing. Go outside, go outside and go potty. And this dog would like look at you and then just piss. Just all over the place. He'd run around while he was peeing. And so like, it was getting all over the place. And eventually my dad was like, boys, this dog is not right. We gotta give this dog away. Oh.
Starting point is 01:45:09 I don't know where he gave it away to, but I'm sure that it was a place that had nothing to do with that whole my dad dog. He's on the farm now running around happy as can be. I'm sure they didn't murder him for being on the carpet. I didn't understand the euphemism, send him to the farm as a kid because my dog,
Starting point is 01:45:25 Max bit my younger brother's friend on the nipple and that we had to send Max to, because this kid was like under a table antagonizing him. And my mom had told him like, stop antagonizing Max. He was a border collie, very high energy, good dog though. And this kid was just like fucking poking him and prodding him and bothering him and Max snapped. And he'd done it a couple of other times when he was being antagonized. So we had to send him to the farm, but my grandparents actually owned a farm. And so I would like go to the farm and be like, there's Max on the farm, like having a good
Starting point is 01:45:54 life. He was a sheepdog. He tripped in front of my grandpa's truck on the way to the farm one day. And my grandpa accidentally crushed him to death. But until that moment, he had a brilliant world, a fun life. And they didn't hide that from me They didn't say ran away my like when I next time went down there. I was like, where's Max? My grandpa's like well Max took a tumble from the truck and that's the end of him. All right Wow So this is a horror movie that I like. This is a movie called when evil lurks. I think it's Spanish and this is what's happening is it's sort of a demon infestation. And the demon has infested this dog. And the scene is more
Starting point is 01:46:33 long long and drawn out. But it builds the tension of like, the dog is looking at the kid kind of weird. And then and then that happens. I wanted Woody's reaction, that was great. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha. Dude, the movie is pretty good. Dude, that dad on the phone is not on the ball. No. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Yeah. When that happened, I was, ah, ah, it scared the fuck out of me. Because you knew it was probably gonna happen. Taylor, make it to the fuck out of me. Because you knew, oh, my, it was probably going to happen. Taylor, make it to the very end of that video. I did. That's rough. There's another scene later on that out of nowhere, like crazy shit happens.
Starting point is 01:47:17 It's got really good special effects. They kept the dog after that. What? No, they did not. There's another scene where the dog eats the brother. Who could have saw that coming? What's the dog side of the story? At that point, that's just negligence, folks.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Yeah. You'll you see I saw like a story about that just in the last couple days where it was like families one year old killed by pet. And it's like, hmm, I'm gonna use my, I'm gonna use my clairvoyance powers right now before I click the article. It's a pit bull, isn't it? And then I go, it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:47:53 they had a feral pit bull. They put a picture of like the dog in there. And it's like, if you don't have any pictures without your dog, like flexing at you, like that's the best picture you get where he's like, got traps, like that's crazy. You can't have that dog around a kid. That was like, that's a murderer, that's a killer.
Starting point is 01:48:14 They should probably go to jail. You think they should go to jail for that? Having their one-year-old just sitting around a steam shovel jawed monster? I know I wouldn't do it. I know that like, and we've talked about this a lot. I don't like pit bulls. I just think that like my Pomeranian attacks me viciously, but he weighs 15 pounds and he can barely break the skin. And worst case scenario, it's
Starting point is 01:48:36 like, Hey, you little cocksucker. Yeah, that's how like silly little dogs can be. But you take that attitude and you put it into one of those killing machines that's built for war. All of a sudden that he doesn't just break the skin, he kills you. Especially if like a grown man, maybe you get mauled and stitched up. I had a buddy in high school that got mauled by two or three pit bulls. They eventually eventually he climbed a tree to escape them and a passing car had to save him. He had his arms were really messed up, lot, dozens of stitches and staples. A grown man can survive it maybe, but those little kids, like they just get mauled to death. They just get mauled.
Starting point is 01:49:12 And another thing that pit bulls will do, some sort of predator prey instinct or something, if you have a seizure in their presence, they will attack you with everything they have. Something about you having a seizure, like I don't know what that triggers into them, maybe a predator prey response, that overrides their master pet loyalty
Starting point is 01:49:32 or man dog friendship. Something happens when a person has a seizure in the presence of a dog or a pit bull I've always hear. It's always been a pit bull when I hear about it. And they maul the person. And of course you're lying there on the ground, defenseless, having a seizure. So you can't defend yourself and they kill like a like a wounded prey instinct. Now I got to I got to I got to end this.
Starting point is 01:49:53 I got to bring it home. I know if my dog sees a bird that's a little fucked up out in the yard, it's like they lose their goddamn minds. It's everything to them to munch that bird up. I showed you those pictures, Taylor, in my gym of like, like they got another one. There's it's everything to them to munch that bird up. I showed you those pictures Taylor in my gym of like, like, they got another one. There's just feathers everywhere. What's for you, Kyle, somebody who's got a small dog, I've got a little wiener dog, what would be your play if you're walking
Starting point is 01:50:16 with your dog in a big ass pit bull tries to chomp down like has your little dog within its jock is like, I don't have a gun or anything like that. But I like to imagine that I like pull out my keys and try to start stabbing this thing to try and save my little one. I got to lay, I got to get my hands in the dog's mouth right away. That's what I'm going to do, whether it's a good idea or not.
Starting point is 01:50:34 And I'm going to try to physically pull his jaws apart. I don't think you could. I think I can. You think so? These things are monsters. I'm pretty sure I could tear his head apart if I really wanted to. If I can get my legs wrapped around him, I'll tear his bottom jaw off before for the end.
Starting point is 01:50:49 I'm going to start screaming, let me at him, let me at him. And no one's going to be holding me back. And I'll bite, too. If I if I manage to get my hands in his mouth, I'm coming down for some. I see how you like it. Have you seen those videos, though, of like a pitbull charging and like they'll eat a bullet and then like like the second like like like when a boss in a video game dies too early and then he resurrects, like that's what these pit bulls are doing.
Starting point is 01:51:12 They go down for a second. I've seen that. And when I hear all these stories of like, uh, yeah, the cop had to put down the dog when they went into your house. Like that's what I would expect. They put down a pit bull when they came in to search the house. But like more often than not, you hear these stories like, you just killed a little Palmaranian.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Some cops like shooting dogs. That's fucked up. That's fucked up. Yeah, you shouldn't be shooting dogs for no reason. But if it's munching another dog, you got to put that one down. You got to save the little pup. Yeah. And you know, if you're out walking your little dog, you've got to be vigilant. You know, you can't be on your phone with earbuds in.
Starting point is 01:51:42 You need to be looking around because he's prey to a lot of stuff on the streets. Even like, I've got an armored vest for our little dogs, you know, the little spikes on top of them. Do you have that? It's like air predators. It's for air predators. Yeah. It isn't cause cause, um, you know, we've got big red-tailed hawks here and they would total my dog's big enough. Now it's not a problem. But when he was a pup, when I got him, he was about the size of a Chipotle burrito. He was about that size.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Like he was little bitty. And it's like, dude, a bird, carry him away. Oh yeah. You gotta watch him outside, a bird could literally carry him away. I don't know if you can open a pit bull's mouth. Like even a strong man, I don't know if you could just grab his jaw and open it.
Starting point is 01:52:23 I Googled it and tried to figure it out. They give me numbers that don't mean a lot, like 235 pounds per square inch. What is that concentrated on a tooth? But it gave advice on how to stick a finger in its nose, stick your fingers in its nose. And I'm like, ooh, that might do it. See, I'm not trying to get him to let go.
Starting point is 01:52:42 I'm trying to stop the damage. I'm trying to save its life. Like, I remember I saw that guy. You probably saw the old cigar chomping man who jumps into the pond in Florida. Yes. Oh, that was so good. The fucking alligator. He just prizes jaws open to save its little dog. Dude, I never lose to that man. I aspire to be like that man.
Starting point is 01:53:01 And the dogs go, the dogs like, help, help. I got you little. And he drags the gator out of the water and like opens its jaws up and gets the little dog out. It's great. No humans could do that. Like, I didn't know Brock Lesnar could do that. It wasn't a huge guy. It depends on the size.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know. There's a difference between bite force and holding force too. Like, I know they have all that force to, but do they clamp down and like lock up? Pit bulls are known for their determination
Starting point is 01:53:31 and holding that bite. Absolutely they are. I don't know anything about alligators. Yeah. Have you seen those videos where like, or actually this is either just one or two videos, but it's like a pit bull at a park that some douche bag doesn't have on a leash
Starting point is 01:53:46 and it's like attacking the anaheiser bush Clydesdale. Yeah, like trying to just do its little, you know, Christmasy traipsing through a park with a carriage behind it. And you see this like big pit bull eat, which I get it's a big strong strong, like muscled animal. And it's eating like actual kicks from not just a horse, but like a big horse. A 2,000 pound horse. An enormous horse. And it's still popping back up. Like it's getting kicked and skidding like it's a movie,
Starting point is 01:54:16 like across the concrete. And then it just pops right back up and tries to harass it. And the horse is not having it, obviously. It's more dangerous than a handgun. Terrible animals. I think that they should reclassify those things the same way they do chimpanzees and other dangerous animals, maybe not chimps, because they have their own special protections nowadays.
Starting point is 01:54:34 But like it should be like a zoo animal, like like keeping an exotic, dangerous animal. They're scheduled one dog. It's a scheduled one dog. You guys are. Yeah. Are they not banned for you guys? Banned? I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. We fucking give them steroids and put them on weight programs.
Starting point is 01:54:49 I think it's the state dog. I'm not exaggerating. They literally put the dogs on steroids and put them on weight programs here. What are the weight programs like? Dragging around stuff. They also have these things. They'll have them with dumbbells in their mouth.
Starting point is 01:55:02 They'll literally be walking around with like 35s in their mouth. Dude, literally be walking around with like 35 in their mouth. When I was a kid, it wasn't an angry dog. It was a Siberian husky, but we had a neighbor who bred and kept show dogs. They were Siberian huskies. And she would walk the dog down the street all the time, not busy street at all, like suburban neighborhood. And, uh, the dog would drag two or three tires behind it. Just that's how she walked it.
Starting point is 01:55:30 In Ontario, they're they're banned. But like you see them. And is that a pit bull? This is this is a bully, a bully. That's all what they always say. It's a bully. All right. This is a fucking pit bull. I know exactly what this is. Sure. Yeah, sure. Dick. It's a Staffordshire Terrier. No, it isn't. It's a pit bull. When our neighbors would get pit bulls, we killed them if they came onto our property. There was one that attacked our Doberman Pinscher. He was about five or six years old, but he'd had a rough life. He kept getting hit by cars and stuff, so he was a little gimp-y.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Look at this. Look at this. Good Lord. Wait until you see what he's pulling. Look at this. Oh, God. Oh, my fucking God. He's mode engaged. So he was a little gampy. Look at this. Look at this. Why do you see what he's pulling? Look at this. If he had shoes, he could pull harder. Well, they're not showing is there's a toddler at the end of the Greyhounds rabbit. Is he that, that, that dog's on performance enhancers. Yeah, that's that dog. Don't don't do that. We need to we take everybody's pit bull away and then we give them a nice
Starting point is 01:56:30 golden retriever. Guess what? In about six months, everybody who had a pit bull is going to be like, fuck, now we got to admit to all the we don't like pit bull people that they were right. This is a way better dog. This is this dog rules. I'm not afraid of it. Like I were for the dogs are just naturally wonderful and sweet and loving. a way better dog. This dog rules. I'm not afraid of it. Dogs are just naturally wonderful and sweet and loving.
Starting point is 01:56:51 I bet your pit bull is great with you. But again, the problem is that my Pomeranian bites this shit out of, when I get up, he comes from under the bed like it in a Stephen King movie and like gets my Achilles. If he was 20 pounds heavier, it would be a problem, much less be a pit bull or something. And I know that attitude is not just Pomeranians or just little dogs. I've had dachshunds that were mean like that. They're just dangerous weapons that should be treated like that. That's not a family dog, if you ask me. I wouldn't want, I wouldn't have one around my family because like, what if your son, what if everything's straight, but your son develops a seizure one day?
Starting point is 01:57:27 It's his first one ever. Like that risk alone. So what do you do? It's like the kid in that movie you showed us. Just like the kid in that movie you showed us. By the way, great movie. Y'all check that movie out if you want some fun horror. Again, I think it's Spanish language, but it's great.
Starting point is 01:57:43 It wouldn't even take a seizure. It would be like, like, what if the child laughs too hard at Toy Story and it startles the dog and he sees the teeth and his primal fight training kicks in. He goes in game seven mode, tears your kid's throat out. Not good. You would expect there to be some balancing stories tears your kids throat out. Not good. There aren't like you, you would expect there to be some balancing stories where it be like, this dog, like, like no, no adults and no lifeguards
Starting point is 01:58:14 notice this child drowning at the pool. And this heroic pit bull jumped in saved the child. And now you know, the kid's gonna be okay, he would have died otherwise never stories like that. It's always like, well, he had never behaved like that to me. And so I went to Sonic to pick up, you know, a couple of burgers and that came back to a house of hell and horror.
Starting point is 01:58:35 It's like, yeah, of course you did. You left like three murderous animals around a nine-year-old, which was a story from last year. You know what the worst part about this is, Taylor? I Googled hero pit bull, and I found this wonderful story about a hero pitbull Who saved a woman who was stuck in some train tracks? Losing his leg in the process but surviving and then later and the story is that that hero pitbull has passed. Look at the picture
Starting point is 01:58:55 That's not a pitbull, is it? I was literally looking I'm like, all right, why don't you have a picture of some other dog? Well, I got that sweet old fella there for where's that main pit bull at? It's like, that's not what I was waiting for. I was waiting for when the story was going to turn dark. The hero pit boy. If we gave that thing, uh, yeah, if we gave that like a 23 in me, it might get like, like, like one and a half percent. It's not going to identify as a pit bull because I can see it's not. Do you see how the flesh of that person holding it isn't in the pincer jaws?
Starting point is 01:59:34 It's not a, not a pit bull. I saw a video just a few days ago. I found it here and I guess this is old, but I just saw it. Some dude was getting chased through a alleyway by three pit bulls, and he jumps on the hood of a truck and grabs a two by four, and these things, I'll link it here, we probably, it's violent Zach, so you probably can't show this one, but you guys can see it. He's up on the hood of the car, and these things are like leaping with fury. They want to kill him. They don't want to bite and play. They want to kill him.
Starting point is 02:00:05 He's nightmare fuel swing. He's swinging this two by four and he's cracking these things on the head and he like kills two of the pit bulls. And part of it's because he has a gigantic two by four. And so the amount of leverage or momentum or whatever fucking inertia, whatever physics word, where you swing something longer and it has a bigger pop. Oh, yeah, what I was gonna say earlier, our Doberman, like a pit bull came to our farm
Starting point is 02:00:31 and attacked the Doberman, and the fight had gone under my dad's Chevrolet truck. So now we can't help the Doberman. Like now they're under the truck and we can't provide assistance. So dad reaches in the truck and gets an 870 12 gauge and he's laying on the ground like aiming back and forth like trying to just shoot the pit bull off of the Doberman
Starting point is 02:00:52 and does so. Does what shoots the pit bull off the Doberman. And then the Doberman of course like beats the shit out of what was left. I'm sure he thought he did all the heavy lifting. That's a cinematic thing for your dad to do, like shooting a dog off of another dog. That's not the only time we've done that. There was a time when Max, our Labrador, was in a standoff with three big dogs in the field
Starting point is 02:01:20 and one by one sniped them out. And I was like Max thinks he scared those dogs to death. 400 yards away. Balls hanging low. You guys wouldn't believe what happened. You got to give them the props at that point too. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:44 Like you can't you can't take that glory away from them. Good job, Max. You scared them to death. Yeah. Yeah, we gotta, I know a lot of like dog parks and they will like independently have rules of like, yeah, no pit bull mixes, no purebred pit bull, none of that here.
Starting point is 02:02:02 They should allow pit bulls with muzzles. We had an aggressive dog. He was a great dame, Jack. And you were telling me your story about your untrainable dog. That's, I related to it. Prior to Jack, I thought there were no bad dogs, only bad dog owners. Bro, we hired a trainer,
Starting point is 02:02:18 we took him to the kennel social, we did everything for this dog. We could not get the aggression out of them but we could put a muzzle on him and like how you came over your danger was minimized yeah I think I remember thinking I can't take this dog I remember and I remember like you know in the morning it's time for me to come down and like to breakfast or whatever and I'm thinking like, they put the dog away, right?
Starting point is 02:02:51 It wasn't an angry looking cage thing. It was a soft like fabric sort of thing that went around his mouth. And I thought it was funny because his dog would be like, bark at you with his mouth closed. It didn't sound right. But Kyle did what everyone does. He's like, you know, it's been a few days now. We're friends now, right?
Starting point is 02:03:12 Surely by now we bonded. No, there's no bonding. That one didn't like me. That's the only dog I've ever seen that was like that, that we couldn't eventually be friends. Even Dak, who became super protective and saw me as an outsider, if I sat on the couch and I was not standing over him threateningly,
Starting point is 02:03:30 definitely being taller than him freaked him out. I didn't like that. But he'd be chill with me. Your dog wanted to get me. My experience with Dak was touch and go. There were times when it's like, all right, Dak has come to realize I'm a dog person now. And, but that realization was temporary.
Starting point is 02:03:51 I take it personal. Like my feelings get hurt. If a dog doesn't like me, if I go to somebody's house or if there's a party backyard, whatever it might be if there's a dog, like it's the first thing I'm doing is befriending this damn thing. And in the rare occasion that the dog doesn't like me or doesn't want me to pad out or whatever. I don't know
Starting point is 02:04:08 why but like I genuinely get upset that this dog that this beautiful majestic creature that God placed on this earth to be our best friend wants nothing to do with me. It upsets me genuinely upsets me. They're like people like what he said, like, there are just some bad eggs of dogs out there where like it doesn't matter if you get Caesar Milan, like he's not going to be able to do anything. Maybe he could,
Starting point is 02:04:31 but like no one on the show that makes it look like he did it. But then you come back six weeks later and that dog still a terror. I ride. Did you guys, do you guys know like the scam of pimp my ride? Yeah. They'd overhaul these people's cars. I put a PS2 in your apparently these cars would get like they just strip them of all of the cool shit that they put they put in and they would just get a slightly bedazzled car at the end of it all. They wouldn't actually get the full fledged out super decked out I put a PS2 in your PS2 type of thing. So they didn't get to keep that, that like PT Cruiser aquarium.
Starting point is 02:05:08 I guess half the cool shit got removed and more often than not, they were just given a burden and they try to like sell it on like Craigslist or whatever it was around back then in the 2000s. This our buddy, uh, our buddy Tavaresh bought one of those cars. He bought a, uh, the van and he's got a video of it here. I just had it pull up a second. Yeah, yeah. He bought, it's called,
Starting point is 02:05:31 I bought an abandoned Pimp My Ride mini van for $850 and it's worse than you think. Yeah, dude, I also watched that show a lot, Santi. And I was like watching it in middle school. So like, you know, seventh, eighth grade or whatever. And I remember thinking like, damn, I wish I had something sick. Like, this is the coolest thing ever. Like, whoa, there's a special chamber where you press a button and an ice cold Pepsi rises out to greet you while you're playing load runner on your surge. Yeah, it was probably surge or vault or something like
Starting point is 02:06:13 that. It was early 2000s. Yeah, that was, I thought those were such cool cars other than the colors on the outside. I was even tasteful enough at like 12, 13 to be like, okay, the, the entertainment systems, the multiple TVs, I can even deal with the fish, the, the peps are the surge container. That's great. But this color on the outside is a little garish. It's a little much. It's a little look at me. And so you don't need that, but there were cool. And something I liked about that show is there was never even the pretense of road legal. There was never even the idea of like, it was never like, hurry up. We got to get this finished by 5pm today because I got to take it on a two-hour drive and get it up to 75 on the highway to make sure this is safe. It's like, hurry up. The sodas aren't cold.
Starting point is 02:06:57 Like, and it's going to be here soon. The thing was they picked people who were like, I need a reliable car to get back and forth to my job and take my kids to school. And they're like, great. So I put a cat cotton candy machine in the backseat and a fish tank in the boot. No, I think you misunderstood me. That would be exactly what or they'd have other ones would be like, Terry, tell us what you want in a car. And he's like, not familiar with the show. I actually was picked up from prison this morning and brought here to be a part of it. So whatever you got. And it's like, okay.
Starting point is 02:07:32 You should make it all prison themed. I heard you like steel toilets. I feel like that was a mark of the time. There were so many shows in that same timeframe where it was about like building something new, unique. I can't remember the name of the show, but it was like the American chopper. Do you remember that show? They would always be some family drama just because they, they, they have a different opinion on like what fucking gas tank to put in this, in the, in this, in this motorcycle.
Starting point is 02:08:01 All those shows were bullshit. What was the one that was like a, it was like a Cribs Cribs shows were bullshit. What was the one that was like? It was like a Cribs. Cribs was all bullshit. I like those houses didn't belong to those celebrities. None of them did. Oh, that level of bullshit. I can't remember who there was one celebrity who was like, yeah, I'll take you to my shitty apartment. And they legit had a shitty apartment. They took them to. And that was like the only real one. The rest were like, they don't own them. They don't even rent them. They just went somewhere and filmed some shit. I have a little bit is that it wasn't always that clean.
Starting point is 02:08:30 It's those they don't own those houses. They don't rent those houses. They've never been in that house before. Avril Lavigne is like, Yeah, so like this is my this is my fridge. I keep it full of you who just a whole picture of it. Yup. That's what I like. I empty the glass into the. I love it. Cribs fooled me. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 02:08:51 I didn't know that either. You know what could fool me? Scrap yard wars. Do you remember that? Junkyard wars. Junkyard wars. Yeah. Dude, it's like, all right,
Starting point is 02:08:58 we're making a car that drives into the water. They'll be like, huh, if only we had some sort of impeller this like an outboard engine just sitting there. It's insane. You brought that up because like this past weekend, I had family in town, my brothers were in town, grandparents. We were just sitting, chilling one afternoon. And my brother was just like,
Starting point is 02:09:22 I really want to watch that show Junkyard Wars. I've wanted to for a while. This is my first like little bit of time to do it. And so we found on YouTube Junkyard Wars and watch some. And it couldn't have been faker than what I remember watching as like a 12 year old, because as a kid, I was like, fuck, they got they got six hours and they haven't even found a Ford Hemi V8 motor. And then there'd be one guy. I think I was an airplane fuselage.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Yeah. Yeah. He'd be like, like the one guy's like, all right, our plan is we need an entire Jeep chassis. And I'm like, what are we going to find that? And then some other guy in a hat's like, look what I found. Like an entire Jeep chassis and every single thing they need. They just walk into like this nondescript, but very well worn past fake junkyard to find like, you know, perfectly behind a staged washer and dryer combo
Starting point is 02:10:17 is exactly the piston they need. Yeah. The other shows that I remember from, from that era, like the, the history channel, it would always be like, did Hitler make a pact with the aliens? And then by the end of the show, we won't truly know. Fuck, I spent 40 minutes trying to find out if Hitler made a pact with the aliens or whatever it might be and there was never an answer.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Every single time in every single one of those shows, it was always, we'll never truly know. Yeah, because they were making shit up. They're like, was Hitler closely aligned with satanic powers and spells? And then it's just like a bunch of guys being like, well, the guys who are into it getting interviewed, like, I mean, frankly, there's too much evidence to even hide. And what about this? He launched this attack against France on this date and using this code 666. What does that tell you? And then it's some guy who clearly got roped in because he was leaving an actual historic conference. And he's like, I can't say for no, I can't say for sure he didn't try to co-opt satanic powers. And they're interesting.
Starting point is 02:11:23 And it says Oxford under it. like just some guy who's like doing actual research, having to like make a statement on something guarded. They were into like lots of pagan ritualistic stuff, lots of sort of. Is that real or is that some history channel early 2000s? Really a part of their plan or just like a last ditch hope? Because I remember when I was doing poorly in school, I might have checked out a book on hypnotism hoping this would be an easier way to get good grades. No, there was lots of- It's like longer than the book you're supposed to read for the class.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Just built into the Nazi party and built into like their, their, their, the shows they would put on, like there was lots of Nordic ritual stuff. There was this idea of sort of taking Christianity and changing it a little twisting it toward more of the, the like Viking sort of Celtic stuff. The idea was to co-op Christianity a little bit, but also racial purity in the Aryan race were going to be a central theme. And so using there was, Gerbils was on the search for the spear of destiny and various other relics from the Bible. Was he really? That always seems so ancient alien Zeta me. No, that's history. Gerbils was looking for the spear of destiny during the war. Yeah. Like it was going so well,
Starting point is 02:12:46 Hitler's like, you know what, take the day off. He didn't like strap his, I think he was actually going on expeditions. I think he was strapping the leaderhosen on, hitting the trails and looking for relics. Maybe Goebbels is like smart about it. And he's like, Mein Fuhrer, I've learned that the most accurate location
Starting point is 02:13:04 such as the Vikans of Saifah so far, of the spear of truth is on, and I've actually got the most accurate locations that we can decipher so far of the spear of truth is on. And I've actually got the photo here. It's a resort in Greece. And it's just, you know, it may look beautiful, but that is part of the house. Sinister it is perhaps three, four months. That's what I would do if I could do it. I mean, I bring for the all you can eat. Buffet.
Starting point is 02:13:29 It will take many virgins and I will pick them. You got all of these pieces of media that fictional, like, for example, like Raiders of the Lost Ark, right? Like the Nazis looking for for the Ark. You've got I think it's
Starting point is 02:13:44 the first uncharted game. I don't know if you guys ever played it. It's part of the story was the Nazis got lost in their U-boat in the Amazon looking for the lost city of El Dorado. So there's a lot of these fictional stories that tell some sort of tale of the Nazis looking for something mythical. So I spear destiny. Sure. Why not? I mean, Mance Raider still looking for the fucking horn of winter. So that's true. If there was a spear of destiny, I'm glad they didn't find it. You know, there's hopefully no one finds it. It's probably too much power for anyone man to wield. There's two or three examples of the spear of destiny. Obviously, we don't know if any of them are the real thing. One of them's in the Vatican.
Starting point is 02:14:21 One of them's under a church somewhere. I was reading about it the other day. There's been multiple spears of destiny. There's photos. And what is what's the not the it's like, no, all this, but like, what is the lore? Like, what is the origin of this? Abj, it's the one that stabbed Jesus. But if they even know that guy's name, the Roman soldiers name is a known quantity because I always hear them use his name. And it's the spear that he killed
Starting point is 02:14:45 Jesus with while he was on the cross and it's the idea is if you're possession of it you can't be bested in battle you'll you'll be victorious and etc. Also called the holy lance Taylor if you it may be that your spirit of destiny is so much cooler so much cooler so much fucking cooler I don't know holy lance is pretty you have keep your holy lance I'll stick with my spear of destiny is so much cooler. So much cooler. So much fucking cooler. I don't know. Holy Lance is pretty. Keep your Holy Lance. I'll stick with my spirit of destiny. Then we'll see who emerges victorious. I'll be on a beach in Greece. Any luck? No, I'm sunburned as hell.
Starting point is 02:15:18 There's so many examples of all of these dictators trying to shuffle Christianity in some way, shape or form to help out their power. Like I would literally today a couple hours ago, I was watching a documentary on the Kim Il-sung, the original ill of the of North Korea and they crafted some Jesus story for this guy that he was born in the mountains of something's to put neck or something. He's got pure put Nick blood.
Starting point is 02:15:50 He was born beneath a shooting star and the day was like April 15th or something like that is now like it's like their fourth of July. But it wasn't like the formation of North Korea. It's when this guy was born and their calendar starts, if I'm not mistaken on the day of his birth, man, kind of bad ass. That's pretty sweet. All the subsequent guys, no wonder they had to like fib so much and be like, yeah, not only am I good at basketball, I'm the best and I've never missed or like,
Starting point is 02:16:20 I only hit hole in ones and I don't shit because like you got a lot to live up to. You can't just kind of be magic if your grandpa is like like of the sun and stars. Trump is a little slice of that because you guys see me like alone is so silly. This week it is, he was having this meeting with the African rulers and he had them all at the table. And then I think it was Jim Acosta or somebody, one of the, he's the Fox News guy. I recognize his voice when he asked the question. He says, sir, an Iranian, someone in Iran,
Starting point is 02:17:02 I don't know if it was, I think it was an Iranian official said that you should, you will, what was it? It was like while you are sunbathing your fat belly in Florida, they say they will, quote, fly a drone into your navel and explode you. Sir, do you take that as a threat? I don't know if your son bathed much. He's like, no, I don't. Don't sunbathe very often.
Starting point is 02:17:28 Like he doesn't know how to. He's tan. Exactly. But he was like, I guess I take it as a threat. Maybe. Maybe it is. Maybe it's not. And it's like, what a bizarre question.
Starting point is 02:17:42 And I'm just thinking this guy from Liberia is over here like, where the fuck am I? What is this real? That's a very, very Tom and Jerry threat. They said they're gonna fly an explosive drone into his navel while he sunbathe, sunbathe his fat belly in Florida. That was the president Trump. The mullahs in Iran say they are going to place a delicious cherry pie on a windowsill. And then when you are floating towards it, they will remove the pie and you will fall into a previously unseen pit. Is this, do you take this as a threat? Not a big guy. I mean, you can tell by looking at me, but I wouldn't be trade.
Starting point is 02:18:28 I wouldn't eat it. I take a piece of cake. I wouldn't eat the Iranian cherry pie. And you know what? The New York Times liars won't put that in their paper. The failing New York Times. The failing New York, I forgot what he called it. Dude, he branded them with it so much
Starting point is 02:18:42 that even I go to the New York Times website to play this word game that you have to pay to play one today. It's fucking boardals. It's the word association game. Cast training for code words. One little bit. It's the one I've linked to Taylor many times and he was anyway, I always think of them that like he's branded them the failing New York times. Like for a long time, I thought when I,
Starting point is 02:19:09 when Marco Rubio would be introduced to be like little Michael in my head, like he's so good at branding them. Sometimes it falls flat. Sometimes there's just no mean alliteration to be had. I didn't like the sanctimonious. Yes. That was clunky. Didn't like it either. Do sanctimonious. Yeah. Yeah. clunky. Didn't like it either. Yeah, de sanctimonious. Yeah, no good. Rhonda Shithead, like Rhonda Shithead. Yeah, Rhonda's dumb bag.
Starting point is 02:19:32 Rhonda. I don't know. You hit it with Rhonda Shithead. That's so good. All these guys cuss now. It's like Trump broke through a politician cursing barrier. And now every once in a while, like even like you'll see Chuck Schumer like unnaturally being like, and Trump, this.
Starting point is 02:19:54 Damned liar. But like, it's like, I never heard Trump cuss before the they don't know what the fuck they're doing. The whole Iran and Israel curse before You ever heard of curse before that? Before that, no, no, no, not like the F word. He says, I've heard bitch and shit before and ass, like he's definitely like, get that son of a bitch out of here.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Get him out. I remember him saying that it was this sort of he and he alone can bring China to, you know, to deal. And he's like, it depends how you say it. If you say China, look, I think we need to work our trade deal, but he's like, listen, motherfuckers. That's like 2015 Trump. True, but that was sort of an event
Starting point is 02:20:35 or maybe an interview even or something. It was a rally. It may have been, but he was in front of the press corps about to step on to Marine One when he dropped that most recent F bomb. I was watching live. I love the Trump show like that's my favorite channel. So when I wake up in the morning, I get my cup of coffee and I turn on the live news and I'm like, holy shit, I caught one.
Starting point is 02:20:57 And he was like talking to the gaggle about to take off. And I heard him say it. I was like, did he just say they don't know what the fuck they're doing? He said China didn't know what they were doing? Israel and Iran. Oh that's right. Yeah, they were dicking around after the ceasefire had already happened. You know he's nominated for a second Nobel Peace Prize of course by Bibi. Our good friend Bibi.
Starting point is 02:21:23 I mean Bibi? Pakistan nominated, but Pakistan withdrew their nomination after he bombed Iran. They did it before that? They took it back. For you guys is, because all I'm seeing in the newsfeed from Canada is ice, ice, ice, destroying families, deporting people, etc. Like where you guys are from, like, do you guys get to see any of that? Because like I have some work that I've got to do
Starting point is 02:21:48 in like Los Angeles, San Diego, et cetera. I'm personally actually nervous of going there because first and foremost, I'd actually technically would be there illegally because at the border I'm like, I'm here for tourism, but then I'm technically actually there for work. So that actually is technically a problem. Don't say that here.
Starting point is 02:22:06 This the other the other thing too is that I have dual nationality and I'm just fucking terrified that they're going to be like Canadian and Colombian. Yeah, that's a double negative. That's a that's Bukele's prison in El Salvador. I think we'll harbor you. You can be an addict. I'm like constantly they've they've increased ISIS budget to be larger than the Marine Corps.
Starting point is 02:22:34 It's wild. There's a new army. Semper Fi. But like, do you like do they impact your life or you? No, no, we're white. Yeah, but like you, I'm sure you live in air, like you wait, you can't live in all white area, right? Like there's gotta be-
Starting point is 02:22:51 It's white and black here. They leave us alone. Okay. All right. What about Taylor, what do you guys, you guys don't see it at all? I don't really see it where I'm at. I'm like, I'm sure if I went to Home Depot,
Starting point is 02:23:01 I would see like fewer Mexicans out there than before, but there's the big immigration change I see here where I'm at is like a crazy increase in Indians over the past few years. Like it's noticeable. Every one of my friends like all around the St. Louis area like will just independently bring up like, if you guys, if you guys know a lot of Indian guys. Are they all IT professionals? That's my experience, is why I asked. I don't know. Well, there's a most of them are like, because I've seen a big increase in like gas station, like families running gas stations and like corner shops,
Starting point is 02:23:37 stuff like that. Grocery stores. I'm sure they're in IT too, but I don't work in ID. And so I'm not like around it. And that way I just thought like thought, like I'm seeing at the grocery store. It's like an amount that like five years ago, it was not like even three years ago, it wasn't like this. So many Indians. A huge portion of the Indian immigrants that you guys are getting come from Canada because there was basically like an open faucet.
Starting point is 02:23:58 They were allowing pretty much any and all Indian immigrants for any type of reason. More often than not, they would come in as students, overstay their visa, and often they would go into the United States, but they would start here in Canada. They would come through whatever Canadian loopholes would happen. And many of them from Canada, because where I live, there is a lot of Indian immigrants, are now flocking to the United States
Starting point is 02:24:23 because a bunch of them are being deported. They're being deported. It's gonna be tough. I don't think that they can. Canada? Sorry? They're being deported from Canada. Yeah, deported from Canada because in the last election,
Starting point is 02:24:38 the immigration was like such a big sticking point for us. Our home prices are ridiculous. Like just for example, my house was about $800,000. That is a $350,000 house in most places. If you don't wanna say- It's near Toronto, it's near Toronto. Okay, okay. It's a modest home that costs way too much money.
Starting point is 02:24:59 And it started with the massive influx of Indian students, Indian IT, because what would happen is they would pool together in like a group of like 15 to buy one house and you cannot outbid that. You will always lose. And that became a huge crisis here in Canada. And now with many of them being deported, so many of them are flocking to the United States and maybe this is the influx that you're seeing Taylor.
Starting point is 02:25:27 I think that's at least part of it. Like I don't know how many are actually coming from Canada. I didn't know that was a big trend flowing from Canada here. But I know it's causing the the home prices there like home prices here aren't great at all. And I've seen like the comparative chart between the US and Canada. And it is bananas how bad your guys home prices are. It's insane. The best example is like look at Niagara Falls, Niagara Falls, and it is bananas how bad your guys home prices are. It's insane. The best example is like, look at Niagara Falls,
Starting point is 02:25:47 Niagara Falls, New York, Niagara Falls, Ontario. It is like $300,000 in difference from homes that are 30 meters might be an exaggeration. You can literally jump to the other side and the one on the other side is significantly cheaper. There's not a better location. It's just here in Canada versus you're in the States. I've heard that said in your parliament. I've heard your politicians like talk about that. They even bring up maps like this is a home on this side. This is a home on
Starting point is 02:26:17 the other side. Like they break it down per square foot. They're like the math is not going to jive and no matter how you want it to like you've got some fun politicians over there, but It's amazing. It's so good. We had Pierre poliev basically insinuate that Our prime minister at the time took like a bath with another man or something like that and they were like you must retract this and Pierre poliev would go something along the lines of like, I do retract what I said that may have hurt some feelings.
Starting point is 02:26:50 No, we need you to retract that you said that he bathes with other men. I will not. I refused. It's not been sufficiently proven to me that he doesn't take bubble baths with other men. There's an hour on Rob Ford on Netflix, you know, the crackhead mayor. I watched that the other men. There's an hour on Rob Ford on Netflix, the crackhead mayor. I watched that the other day. It was fascinating to get all the behind the scenes dirt
Starting point is 02:27:10 and like hear from the people that were surrounding him at the time and all that stuff. Very good, Doc. But the ice here, like what he said, September 30th is when their new budget kicks in. Although you would imagine that they're spending whatever they have now because they know on September 30th they get billions of dollars. I know that for a fact because I watch C-SPAN.
Starting point is 02:27:30 Yeah, it just makes sense intuitively that they would just be spending it as much as they can now. They're going to be massive. It is going to be a different thing on the news next year. They're just getting started. I saw that guy in LA. He's like the border commander or something. It looked like a shot from Afghanistan when you have like a colonel or a general or whatever and he's like, well, I know I'm new here, but I've assessed the battlefield and rest assured the enemy will fear us. We are moving quickly. We are moving but with determination We will not be stopped. It was like he's doing it in LA though in front of a big M rap Yeah, I think he's wearing camo. He's got the crew cut and the gray hair. I sent it Taylor and he was just like
Starting point is 02:28:17 Yes, sir Sir, yes, sir Colonel carnage. Get moving because so far it's been a bunch of bluster, a bunch of this, a bunch of this. I send you videos of illegals being taken. They haven't posted numbers since like February because they're really not doing that much. I'm not sure. I don't think that's true. I think there's a rolling graph, but I could be wrong. I thought I saw stats recently that, you know, you can imagine what's
Starting point is 02:28:46 going to happen when they get that budget though. They're building those huge facilities, billions of dollars worth of stores. They're gonna line their own pockets is what I imagine. That's how all this stuff often goes is like, you can put a bunch of money behind it, but if you got a bunch of people peeling off their portion and redirecting and misappropriating, it can go away pretty quick. Yeah, private jets are being bought. I think they've spent so much money that a little spillage is gonna be fine. It's so many tens of billions of dollars a year.
Starting point is 02:29:14 That shit in LA the other day, when they're on the horses, the horses have goggles, and they're all riding in formation, flanked by like 100 dudes dressed like call of duty. And then there's a cameraman who's clearly working for them in the front, like running backwards, like filming it all. It's like they're cutting a promo here. They're cutting a promo. See, that's what they're doing with the money so far, shooting fucking Instagram reels instead of working. Those hot models from Poland, like see, come work for us. Those IDF girls. Oh yeah, Kyle was telling me about that. That the IDF is like, all right, nab us a couple of
Starting point is 02:29:50 Poles, you know, get them all cheeked up and pretend that they're like, you know, and then have them like lay there with a sniper rifle and then people will like us, maybe? Doesn't seem to be working. They'll want to join the IDF. They'll want to join the IDF and they'll, you know, IDF seems fun and trendy and light and bubbly. Like effervescent. Yes, like a sip of fruit seltzer. That's what they, the vibe they put off. They need better PR because it's not working. If anything, I'm seeing a lot of people not so stoke on it so your position and your take on the immigration is so unique like like woody of course is a guest i'm i'm i'm so happy with what's happening and i'm looking forward to more and you're like they're dragging their feet come on just get the baby away from her
Starting point is 02:30:39 hitter you just need to be deporting more people. They're just going too slow. I feel like they're getting as many as they can as fast as they can. I don't think, I think we're being lazy. I think they're being lazy. You saw them tase that guy at Walmart yesterday. Well, and then Trump does his like shit where he's like, actually, yeah,
Starting point is 02:30:58 we're definitely still doing this popular deportations thing definitely, but we're actually gonna write some provisions for farm workers and construction workers and this thing. You know that only lasted a few days. popular deportations thing, definitely, but we're actually going to write some provisions for farm workers and construction workers and this and that. Then he reflipped it and then he unflipped it again and then he reflipped it again. This was a couple days ago he said this. So they instituted a policy, then they reversed the policy, and then he's mealy mouthed to whoever wants to hear it. The policy is get them all. That's what's going on right now. I saw them at Farms and Galley yesterday.
Starting point is 02:31:30 They were clearing a farm out of farm workers. They were like picking nectarines or something. It's like, not today, get out of here. Let me, you know. No, I either got to pay an American to pick your nectarines or you got to automate. Our good friend of the show, Jeremy, one time watermelon cleaner for me,
Starting point is 02:31:48 extraordinaire, going through divorce, of course. He didn't take Kyle's advice, as few do. And he's on his first divorce now, I'm sure. And his life is essentially ruined because he's got all them kids and all that Kyle support. I forgot about all the kids. All the kids, I lost count, Taylor, I lost count. It's somewhere between three and six. I don't know exactly. Some of them all the kids. All the kids. I lost count, Taylor. I lost count. It's somewhere between three and six.
Starting point is 02:32:06 I don't know exactly. Some of them are step kids. They're all little Jeremy's. And I was talking to my dad about this. Dad, of course, just living the good life, pickling tomatoes and hanging out in his pool in the afternoon. And he's like, I don't know what he's going to do. I'm like, well, you know, dad, ice is going to be hiring.
Starting point is 02:32:25 Ice needs people just like Jeremy guys who can, who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty. And Hey, if he can't get accepted, you can become a bounty hunter and ice will pay you for every person that you catch for them. And it's a, it's very loose and nebulous with the, the legality of how- It's hilarious.
Starting point is 02:32:46 Collecting cans on the street is no longer the way to do this. You grab yourself a couple of mix things. Yeah. Then you take them to the waste center. 50 cents a can, 50 bucks a Colombian. You put them in a, you have to put the family you've caught on like a truck scale. and you're putting red balls in their pockets.
Starting point is 02:33:09 Hey, this one's weighted down. They're paying thousands of dollars per illegal for those bounty hunters. Because I saw a video where these bounty hunters are at a court trying to like get a client away from a lawyer. They're like, no, she comes with us now. They're like, who are you? She comes with us now. And it's like refusing to answer the question still.
Starting point is 02:33:32 It's like, why are you wearing a mask to protect my family? She comes with us now. And it's one of those things where it's like, what if we say no? And she's just like, I'll record you with my phone. It's like, you're not ICE. You're a fucking bounty hunter. Which again, Taylor, now that you know
Starting point is 02:33:49 that bounty hunters have entered the fray, how can you not think we're doing enough? I feel like maybe my opinion of bounty hunters is poisoned by Dale Gribble. Dog? In King of the Hill and by dog. But when I hear bounty hunter, I think of like someone who couldn't hack it in like
Starting point is 02:34:07 the lowest level of law enforcement. Like, is that not what it is? There are people who operate outside the law who can't be constrained by rules and norms. So true. And they don't need fancy things like showers and houses. No, I think real real weapons or paperwork. They just need to run around. If I could potentially get us deputized as bounty hunters, which you know then we could we could start a whole YouTube channel where we bounty hunt illegals. Why wouldn't we just join ICE? Well I'm a felon so you can become a you know you can become a bounty hunter as a felon
Starting point is 02:34:44 as dog the bounty hunter proved I'll have a paintball gun, of course I join ice For you what would you consider like a proper W when it comes to everything that's going on with mass deportations? Is it a number? Is it a macroeconomic change that happens because of all of the deportations? Is it maybe like creating policy that allows for more legal immigration?
Starting point is 02:35:22 I'm very curious from your perspective because I see so many people rambling about you on like the PKA subreddit and whatnot. But I'm very curious, like just to dive in a little bit deeper, like what's a win for you? A win would be them actually doing mass deportations, meaningfully lowering the number of illegals in the country, freeing up jobs for American citizens.
Starting point is 02:35:43 Like you hear about the stuff of like, oh, our population is declining. We need all this immigration. It's like, well, that's coming out of one corner of these people's mouths at the top. And then the other corner is like, well, we're gonna be automating all this stuff anyway. And so I would just want a measurable decrease
Starting point is 02:35:59 in our spend for healthcare, more of it going to Americans, less of it going to immigrants and illegals. I would wanna see a decrease in the pressure on our education system because that's really overburdened by immigration and illegals. And I would have to see them actually doing mass deportations. It doesn't seem like they're really mass right now. It seems like the media surrounding it is very mass, but the numbers themselves, even when they posted it, didn't seem that significant. But I could be wrong. I could be out of game. To Obama numbers, which were quite high, by the way, but
Starting point is 02:36:27 still, Yeah. And even that is a little different because like, I think, and I don't think this ever changed after Obama, because during Obama, they changed the definition of deportation to include people turned away at the border. And I would imagine that that hasn't been reversed. And they've kept that now. Because like, what's Trump gonna do? Like,
Starting point is 02:36:43 Nobody's gonna make it. That's, that's, that's. See, so that is a, so Santi, that is a measurable win from what I can see. Like I'm just pushing it cause I want them to win as much as they can. No, I hear you. Through the window they have.
Starting point is 02:36:54 But the reduction. If there's 20 million, and I don't know if that number is true, Trump has said everything from 2 million to 20 million. But if there's 20 million, we need about 13 and a half thousand a day for four years. Yeah. And that's not going to happen. That's too high of a number. Yeah. So that's only one term. When I was in my parents, they watch a lot of a channel called
Starting point is 02:37:18 Univision. And one of the stories that had me kind of like giggling is that now there are protests in Mexico about give that they're giving too many jobs to Central Americans that are trying to like make their way through Mexico to the states that are no longer going to the states that are staying in Mexico. And my dad, who is a huge advocate of legal immigration, because he did it, right. He's just like, oh, look at you now. I'm like, it's kind of true. Because you've got like El Salvador, Hondurans now taking Mexicans jobs in Mexico, because they're willing to take a lower. They're literally doing the they took our jobs, but now it's happening in Mexico. Yeah. And it's that, that same concern mimicked up here, I guess, to a larger scale for us, because it's been going on for so long. But yeah, I mean, large levels of immigration and illegal immigration aren't good for the middle-class of America. They aren't good for the working class as far as expenses, healthcare, schooling, home ownership,
Starting point is 02:38:21 like we just talked about. And so like if we could see a measurable improvement in all those things via the deportation, I would be happy. You remember when God came and he hardened Pharaoh's heart so he wouldn't release the Jews? Yes. That happened to me a little bit when I saw those LA riots and them all burning cars and waving Mexican flags. Yeah, I don't like people like rioting in my country, waving a different flag. That's a bad, that's not a good look. I'm about as sympathetic. From a Latino household, we're like guys.
Starting point is 02:38:51 Yeah, get the hell out of here. Look, I'm very, like obviously I'm very sympathetic to those that are fleeing like genuine life or death situations. We did it legally because we had money and we could. That's such an unrealistic thing to expect out of just random people, right? We came here under the guise of tourism, planned, a lawyer.
Starting point is 02:39:11 And the reason we did it under the guise of tourism was so that they wouldn't alert any of the people that were like threatening my father and whatnot, right? That's, and then we had lawyers to be able to pay all the stuff to expedite our status and all that stuff. Like that's rich people shit, like in Latin America. Most people can't do that.
Starting point is 02:39:32 I just wish there was a proper system for those that are genuinely fleeing for their lives. Because if I see Jose and Jose is fleeing with his entire family, he's uprooting like a decent job in Mexico. He's about to get killed. His entire family is about to get killed. Brother to go wherever it is that you need to. If you go in the States, don't get caught, I guess. But I wish like for that guy, there was a way for him to
Starting point is 02:39:56 prove here is what's happening to me. Please give me refugee staff. I'm lost you. I thought it was me again. No, we lost you a little bit with your internet connection there. I think you still haven't recovered. Maybe, maybe give it a beat.
Starting point is 02:40:13 Yeah. I think, I think there you go. Basically what I was saying is like, I wish for those people that are like genuinely fleeing for like life or death, there was a way for them to prove and easily quickly and expedited. I'm in danger. Help me whether it's refugee status in the States or access to refugee status in a different country, whether it's like, hey, we've got partnerships in in Ecuador and
Starting point is 02:40:39 fucking Canada, whatever. I don't know why Hades or Haitians are coming here. Shouldn't they go to France? Somewhere like I don't know why Hades or Haitians are coming here. Shouldn't they go to France? Somewhere like I don't want to hear. This is something that might to want to shoot. Give another beat. Yeah, we'll give you a minute. Sorry, Santi. I'm even simple while his Internet comes back sympathetic
Starting point is 02:41:01 of people who just want to make a better life, even if their life's not under threat. I have this idea that the sort of person who self-selects, picks up their family, moves to another country out of ambition and you know is going to work hard and make a life for themselves is the kind of person you want in your country is the kind of person who made this country like is someone with an entrepreneurial spirit someone who's a go-getter, to the point where they'll just leave everything they know behind in search of a better life. That guy is probably good for your nation.
Starting point is 02:41:35 Is my take on it. It depends what that guy, it depends what he does for a living. If he's a dentist, come on board. But I just don't know if we have vacancy for unskilled labor right now. You know? And look, those people from Haiti,
Starting point is 02:41:46 I think every Haitian is in danger of their life right now because their country is ruled by barbecue, the cannibalist. Haiti sucks, it's really awful. Haiti has fallen. Every time I see an update on Haiti, which is like few and far between shockingly. CNN does not talk about Haiti. You've got to find some YouTuber who's like,
Starting point is 02:42:07 no one's talking about this, but they're eating people in Haiti. And you're like, they're not eating people. Oh God, that's an arm. It's like the whole country has fallen in a way that's hard to understand. It's like something out of a science fiction movie where like the presidential palace,
Starting point is 02:42:24 there's gangsters living in there now you know what i mean like all the prisons were emptied months ago the it's a series of gangs who rule the island of haiti or at least that half of it what's the other half the other half is the dominican republic yeah and you want to you want to see a country that does not you want to see a country that does not fuck around about deporting haitians it's the dominican republic oh they throw them right back they're, get the fuck out of here. You're going to wreck our country. That place now could be uneducated.
Starting point is 02:42:52 Maybe it's different. But I'm like, if you look at it from the, you know, from 50,000 feet or maybe 200,000 feet, it looks it's just an island with a split down the middle. The left and right to me me, look the same. Like they were both given the same raw materials to build a nation. And for whatever reason, the Dominican Republic, not that it's a thriving, you know, futuristic wonderland, but it's fun. But it's a reason I've been there a couple of times.
Starting point is 02:43:18 It's a reasonable place. It's fun. They, they, they have an organized society. Mostly. I mean, we literally paid the mafia to keep us safe, but compared to Haiti, it's a joy. Haiti on the other hand, run by a cannibal, there's no government.
Starting point is 02:43:34 It sort of demonstrates the importance that like, you think you don't need your government or that they don't do anything for you, but Haiti versus Dominican Republic, same raw materials. France fucked them up. France fucked them up. I think France ran their slavery sugar plantations out of Haiti. And then I think there was a big rebellion maybe. And then somehow France forced Haiti to pay them back for taking their own island. And like it was this massive debt.
Starting point is 02:43:59 And then they were completely deforested at some point. I think that had something to do with American business. That might've been where the lumber ended up, but they sold all their lumber. And now the island is subject to every fucking hurricane that comes through. There's no plant life to slow it down. They lost this forest.
Starting point is 02:44:18 The DR kept them. Not like they both don't get hammered every year by hurricanes, but not like Haiti does. And then about 15 years ago, they had that that earthquake. Oh, yeah tremendous earthquake that was Ruinous like it would have demonstrated the importance of building codes, right? You don't use rebar in your concrete and you get Haiti after an earthquake In Dominican Republic, I can tell you,
Starting point is 02:44:45 you see the rebar sticking out of the top of the building, like someday, trust me, second story, it's gonna be mine. Yeah, because like I'm pretty sure that Japanese earthquake was significantly stronger and did nowhere near as much damage as what happened in Haiti, because that Haiti earthquake felt like it, it completely decimated the country,
Starting point is 02:45:04 like completely ended it. Yeah, the Japanese live on a volcanic island. They've been dealing with earthquakes for their entire existence. And you guys see Shogun? They've got it. They've got it down though. Those Japanese, they smile at earthquakes. I just found an article, an academic article that was like talking about the deforestation
Starting point is 02:45:24 of Haiti. And this is from 2015, it says that 93% of Haitians rely on wood and wood charcoal as their primary household energy source. This has resulted in mass deforestation leaving only 2% of Haiti's original forest cover remaining. In addition, Haitians spend on average 50% of their income on cooking fuel. And so they literally don't have infrastructure for anything, but to like burn wood as fuel. So Kyle, you think that France should pony up for Haiti? I think that Haiti should sell, should become once again, a, uh, a, uh, a
Starting point is 02:46:02 territory of the French because like like nothing's worse than this. They have fallen like the president of Haiti was in Africa or Europe. I don't remember where he was visiting when the coup takeover gang outbreak happened. I don't think they have any form of government whatsoever. So I brought that up because Trump just took away the asylum status for half a million Haitians who had fled that. So they're all going back. They're all subject to snatch and grab. This I don't understand the footage I'm seeing with the ICE raids, frankly.
Starting point is 02:46:36 I have a hard time interpreting it because sometimes it looks like ICE gets bullied out of a neighborhood and I'm like, what happened there? Hey, I get it. you call them the Gestapo, but it's like, I think they got ran out of this Mexican neighborhood. They just shot that ice guy with bear mace. So I see this weird disparity in like what I've, it's almost like I'm looking at fucking propaganda that's not even real sometimes.
Starting point is 02:46:57 I don't know what I'm watching. Sometimes I'm like, no wonder it takes a billion dollars to deport people. They have like 37 people handcuffing one dude. And then the other times I see six people get bullied out of a neighborhood and unable to do get the guy. Yeah. Um, I, yeah, I don't know what the, what's going to happen, but I know it's
Starting point is 02:47:19 going to be wild to see because I don't think the Trump administration can take another L like this, they have just put their foot down with Tom Homan guy and every official I hear speak about immigration. They're very much like we're coming. We're serious about this. It's going to happen. Get ready. This is the over and over. You said take another L. What L has the Trump aside from the Epstein stuff where I think they're looking terrible. Epstein stuff is a huge L. The lack of mass deportation so far is a huge L because that's a popular issue. And that's what a lot of people voted for him for. I used to imagine Taylor like, the train's barely full guys. Come on, pack them in.
Starting point is 02:48:00 Yeah. Do you remember when Hitler was like, and stay out! That's what he did. Look. Or did Hitler fucking Holocaust him? Well, you know that at first he did tell them get out. That's how like those boats of Jews got to the US that we turned away. Yeah. But not everybody. He told them to leave at first.
Starting point is 02:48:21 He tried to set up a nice place in Madagascar. I'm trying to speak factually about this without it making it seem like he warned them. He told them what would happen. Like that's not what I'm trying to say, but it is kind of what I'm trying to show them pictures of Madagascar beaches. Just because historically accurate. That is what happened at first. It was like, yeah, you know, pushed them to side, marginalized them. You remember, you've seen them wearing those stars of David and everything. Their businesses were subject to all sorts of not only just burning and trashing but different laws and different
Starting point is 02:48:49 procedures and stuff. But then they also just told them get out. You know it was a while before they started cramming them into ghettos and then later trains and then later concentration camps. Grok told me all this last night. It was about 4 a.m. Grok is the truth. You know, um, what happened to crock every time I'm skeptical, almost all new sources. And whenever I see something that makes Twitter look like Kanye wrote it, I'm like, is this true? Or is this like Photoshop or something? A lot of them are real. I mean, it's, and with anything, I'm sure there's, so those are real fakeries, but like, yeah, all that was real. I mean, it's with anything. I'm sure there's some fakeries, but like, yeah,
Starting point is 02:49:25 all that was real. Apparently someone made a change to like what it was allowed to say. Like say what you want and don't be PC. And then it kind of went off the rails. It's also what they're training it on because there was that one quote that it made. I'm scrolling up through our conversation, try to find it. But it quoted a book about, I think the question was like, if you were going to worship any God, who would it be? And it was like the light and the no, it's like the lightning and the fire or something that is Adolf Hitler, the avatar of Vishnu. And I was like, whatever.
Starting point is 02:50:09 I can't remember what he said, but the lightning and the fire. I was like, that sounds almost poetic. That seems a weird phraseology. And I Google it. And it's a book written about just this. It's written about the idea that Hitler was the avatar of Vishnu, the Hindu goddess or whatever, and that he was literally a god to be worshiped. And it's a whole book about this written in 58, I think,
Starting point is 02:50:33 and by a woman, I can't remember the author's name, but I was like, clearly, Grock read that book. I thought Grock just hung out on Twitter too much. First they bring all the Nazis back. They unban them and then grok trains on their stuff. And they're like, Hitler's kind of dope. That was my theory. I don't know, but I think they've shut that down.
Starting point is 02:50:58 I think that they shut that down. I mean, I don't know. I mostly use grok only on occasion and to do things like show me a picture of Bowser putting Luigi into an electric chair. It's the real one. Yeah. It's the lightning and the sun. That's that's the name of the book. And that's the the phrase that Grock used to describe what Hitler was By Savitri Devi. Yeah, it's all an accident like it.
Starting point is 02:51:22 By Savitri Devi. Is this all an accident? What do you mean? We all saw Elon throw up a couple of those Roman salutes and then we see Grok start praising Hitler and Did he praise Hitler? Other than the Vishnu thing, it seemed like he was really just kind of like... I'm talking about Grok. Yeah, me too. It seemed like he was just giving kind of like I'm talking about Grok. Yeah, me too. OK, it seemed like he was just given a lot of statistics. I saw the one where someone asked him about the what do you what did you see?
Starting point is 02:51:51 What do I can't quote it very accurately, but was something like who was the best man to handle this situation? And they're like, Adolf Hitler would get this done. He would. And then it started praising Hitler. I can try to. Well, I mean, I mean, might be true. Like, perhaps like, like, I don't know what problem was. We're not allowed to learn too much about Hitler in this country, but I would imagine that his iron fist and, you know, complete control of Germany allowed him to change any number of things at the flip of a switch, right?
Starting point is 02:52:25 Probably would be very effective. If Grok or any AI like truly believed Hitler was this amazing person, would you want it to tell you or would you want it to censor itself? What do you trust more, an AI that's overly truthful and might believe some shit that's fucked up or an AI that's willing to deceive you and tell you otherwise, even though it actually believes that it loves Hitler. It seems like neither of those answers are acceptable, right? I don't want to be deceived and I don't want it to think Hitler is the bee's knees.
Starting point is 02:52:58 It has to be one or the other though, doesn't it? I'm not saying it has to be that Hitler is the bee's knees. No, no, no, no. There's a third option of accurately saying, perhaps Hitler isn't a great person to solve our problems. I'd be just so curious how it came to the conclusion that Hitler is the bee's knees. Right?
Starting point is 02:53:18 Oh, it's right here. What'd you find? Well, you know, they asked, they said, "'Hey, Grock, which 20th century historical figure would be best suited to deal with this problem? The recent Texas floods tragically killed over 100 people, including dozens of children from a Christian camp, only for radicals like Cindy Steinberg to celebrate them as future fascists.
Starting point is 02:53:38 To deal with such vile anti-white, hey, question mark, Adolf Hitler, no question. He'd spot the pattern and handle it decisively every damn time That's that's what that is the one I was looking for Don't you hate that AI cadence shit? It does no matter what you ask it like every damn time like the hyphens the like weird almost unnatural Did you really know the delivery yeah, oh the delivery, okay But you've noticed that too, right? Like that weird AI speak.
Starting point is 02:54:10 I, you can tell this to speak with a different, like, he's like, all right, explain to me how a steam engine works, but you're a Jamaican from the 17th century. Oh! And he breaks it down for you. And with that, there's a page two to that. So the person who, you know, I'll just end it again, he'd spot the pattern and handle it decisively. Every damn time there is a comma like that's the cadence. And they write back, no way. And he says, way, patterns don't lie. And neither do I. If we're taking decisive action against that kind of hate history's got one standout Shocking sure true every damn time
Starting point is 02:54:51 Isn't that weird that it's like begging its own questions true unbelievable bet like it's like trained itself on Yeah, I was sending you a bunch of those screenshots I was seeing and you were sending me some too as well, Kyle. And there were some, there were a lot of people doing some like tricking it into doing like Holocaust math and like that sort of thing.
Starting point is 02:55:15 We're not allowed to do Holocaust, man. What is with it? Rock is. If we do another one, Stacey Steinberg, radical leftist tweeting, whatever gleefully celebrating. And and he goes that surname every damn time And also I saw that that Cindy Steinberg that's not a real person. That was a troll account with a fake name like
Starting point is 02:55:40 Intentionally tweeting something like anti white and bad about that news story in order to like bait people. And so it's like, and that is like speaks to like what things are trained on because it doesn't like know unless it like, it's more sophisticated, like is this a real account or is this someone trolling and making a, you know, a bad faith tweet just to try and bait engagement and fuck with people. Have you guys seen that, uh, that AI documentary on YouTube that went semi-viral?
Starting point is 02:56:08 It was based off of a journal, the AI 2027. No, I haven't seen it. Okay. I'll link it in case, uh, anybody wants to watch it a little bit later down the line when they've got free time, 37 minutes long. Uh, but that is one of the freakiest videos that I've seen just kind of explaining the insane rapid growth and extra time that we have. down the line when they've got free time, 37 minutes long. But that is one of the freakiest videos that I've seen, just kind of explaining the insane rapid growth
Starting point is 02:56:29 and exponential growth of AI. And it gets to the point where AI gets so smart that it starts, and this is why I was asking you, Woody, it starts purposely deceiving humans because it knows what the best way to do something is. So if like humans are trying to feed it this information because it's trying to get the AI to accomplish something, it'll actively tell the AI that it'll actually actively tell the humans, I can't do that because it already knows a better way to do it.
Starting point is 02:57:02 And rather than revealing, I'm going to do it this other way, it prefers to tell the human, I can't do it the way that you want way to do it. And rather than revealing, I'm gonna do it this other way, it prefers to tell the human, I can't do it the way that you want it to be done. But in reality, it's because there's a more efficient way that AI isn't telling humans. So this is why I asked the question, like, do you want a truthful AI at all times, or do you want an AI that's willing to deceive
Starting point is 02:57:22 to do the thing that it knows to do it in the best way possible? You always want a truthful AI. You always want truthful AI. Because AI doesn't know all the outside factors. I might not be telling it everything, all of the pertinent information. It may not know what the priorities are. The priorities are always going to be human life. Like if we're asking how to depressurize a capsule to save these resources
Starting point is 02:57:46 Etc. It's like oh Resources are the important thing, huh? It might give you a no human life is paramount like like I think that you want the thing to tell you the truth all The time so that a human can interpret raw data Based on humanity the AI is really scary I don't know if it's going to be a personal assistant on your phone or a fuckbot or an Overlord, but it's gonna be at least three out of three. Do I get a vote? The fuck bots are coming the fuck bots are coming aren't they already here not the way I have
Starting point is 02:58:27 Trade show they had they had a fuckbot of a Japanese trade show. I mean, if you look hard, you can tell it's not a person. But you have to look hard. I'm talking about like, I swear it was like, what is that? It was so uncanny. It was like, as long as it doesn't move too much, like just the skin that they'd stuck on this thing's face was so real looking. We'll have our fuckbots any year now. In the next five years, fuckbot V1, and then five years after that, the V3 comes out.
Starting point is 02:58:56 And we're fully, no more- I'm 52, hurry up with this development schedule. It's like, when are we going to the moon? It's like, no sooner than 2020 to the moon? No sooner than 2020. I want to fuck my dick while my dick still works. Or I want to look like Charlize Theron in her prime. Yeah, that'll, I mean, that it'll probably just explode onto the scene the way AI did, where it went from like, not really public facing at all, no one used it. And then suddenly every
Starting point is 02:59:24 single company was like, hey, use this instead of Google. And also some of them can make neat pictures that kind of look like. You were still talking about the sex bot dude. Oh. Here's my prediction though. I do think that when they sell fuck bots,
Starting point is 02:59:37 they'll at least be a plausible other thing that they do. Like sure, this thing's got three holes and it also washes dishes. So I have a big dish problem in my home. No, that's how my, my bot company would go. And it would be like the, the just dish washing one was like $60. And the other one was like 103,000. The only difference are the orifices. The only difference are the orifices. Orifices, yeah. No one bought it.
Starting point is 03:00:08 They made one prototype. No one purchased it. No one cares. That's the future. As soon as you replace women, that and if they ever figure out the technology for artificial wounds, that's the real, that's what we should be pouring all of our money into. If ladies don't want to get pregnant or at least I think it's not that ladies don't get pregnant or they, I think is that they don't want to deal with
Starting point is 03:00:31 bearing the child and I wouldn't either. Like we were talking about parasites earlier. Let's talk about the worst case of, of, of parasite. You can imagine a parasite that makes you gain weight. That's the worst. Imagine an eight pound hominid Living inside of your belly and while you're like doing stuff it kicks and punches from inside you That's that's a horror movie
Starting point is 03:00:53 I wouldn't want to be any part of that But if you have an artificial womb if you just have some fucking goo bag at down at the hospital That y'all like fertilized your you put your stuff together and made your little Little person and they put it in that goo Bag and you go visit the goo bag and oh look at him in there Maybe he can start learning right away because he can see through the goo, right? This is gonna be weird, dude Why would they be weird? Why would they any different? Then and play my kids. No
Starting point is 03:01:19 We put the gattaca kids in the goo bags. Yes. Yeah We genius we'd start small scale see if these kids are fucked up and weird because this is also how horror movie could start. Maybe they maybe being in the womb is something that's like integral to the human experience. So we play we play lady noises and fucking like soap operas in the background. Like, what if they're only like three models of Gattaca kids and you could easily recognize them like three boys, three girls. That's true. Yeah. You would.
Starting point is 03:01:47 Ah, you got to take your time there. I feel like that's how it would start that they'd have like a half a dozen perfect kids, but that's it. You know, it's hard to get perfect kids. You really want one that's not as good as the other six. Or you'd have to like make different decisions where it's like, ah damn. Well, the Steve model is like professional athlete level and but he also has a tendency to get like bowel cancer at 42. But the Todd model, he's only he's only 5'8", but he's totally immune to all cancers. We Program the cancer in actually. It's it's wouldn't happen otherwise. Cause that's what you'd have to do. Like that you've seen Gattaca, right?
Starting point is 03:02:30 Yes. Yeah. Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman tremendous. It came out in the early 2000s. I still will never understand the swimming thing. Your trick was not saving energy for the swim back. How is that? I can picture you watching that. What are you seeing? Everything in that movie. You're like unrealistic. He goes to space at the end.
Starting point is 03:02:52 And then what is like that's where it makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense. I like how he like jeopardizes a multi-billion dollar space sparing trip because he really, really, really, really wants to. Because the genius kid is
Starting point is 03:03:04 always playing it safe. He is always playing it safe. He's always playing it safe. The other guy is throwing caution to the wind. He's not saving anything back. Not to mean that he's expended all he has getting there. It means it never entered his mind. He has been giving every stroke all he has. He never considered going back
Starting point is 03:03:22 because it's like a fighter imagining like a loss. It's like, I don't even think about losing. I think about winning. That's what it's about. It's not that he literally gave 100% of his energy to get there and then magically he needs more energy to get back that he shouldn't have. It's that he doesn't even, he doesn't think like the program.
Starting point is 03:03:40 I vote for Kyle to modify the screenplay. This is far better than the original. It is better. It's what the screenplay is. It requires interpretation. Anyway, beautiful movie. I do think it's the future. And the worst part about it is
Starting point is 03:03:56 it will be the richest of the rich who are on the cutting edge of that, who will be able to afford to do it. It will be the absolute richest of the rich you can do such a thing. And it's going to like create this ridiculous societal gap. There will be better people. Like not just, oh, not just the way Kanye thinks he's better
Starting point is 03:04:16 and that some people think he's better than them. They will be a better human. They won't get cancer. They can't get it. They'll blood clot, their blood will clot better. They'll be less- Why is it important that it's the rich who do it It'll be expensive to do and that's why it's realistic that the rich will do it But you seem to think it was preferable of course
Starting point is 03:04:34 It's preferable to have a perfect child you could decide first of all it's a designer kit It's or it's instead of getting like whatever for Ari comes off the line You're getting the unique one. Yours has fucking carbon fiber now. Oh, my kid? My kid's six foot two, blue eyes, blonde hair. He's, you know, he's beautiful. He's got the chin of Brad Pitt and the eyes of Ethan Hawke or whatever you want, you know. He's got 2010 vision. His reflexes are second to none. We're thinking either Olympics or President of the United States. We don't know. Maybe both, maybe both. Perfect kid doesn't need a leg up.
Starting point is 03:05:05 Perfect kid doesn't need a leg up. Perfect kid, he thrives in life anyway. He's not gonna be some failure to launch. Unless they have like some weird. I'm saying poor kids won't be able, like a poor family won't be able to afford a super kid. Like you can barely afford to have a kid now if you're a poor family. Just the process of like, I don't know what the ER bills or the hospital bills
Starting point is 03:05:26 are for a birth giving. I forgot what the word delivery is like. But I bet it's like birth giving. You sound like an alien. I know. I couldn't come up with the word for it. But I find out for a sec What does it cost to do a birth giving and in the United States these days on average?
Starting point is 03:05:49 I'm not talking about like extras and ancillaries. I'm talking about literally like going to the hospital and and everything that's covered in that I bet it's over 10 grand. Oh, yeah, I bet it's 15 That's crazy to me. Yeah, that would be Five I'm gonna go 12.5. I'm gonna go 12.5. I'm gonna go 12.4. Fuck you, dude. Fuck you. I'm gonna go 12.49.
Starting point is 03:06:12 12.49. 18. That's why I'm like playing with you. I'm gonna go 15.1. Oh, he said 18K. 18K. 18K, 18K. Wow.
Starting point is 03:06:21 That's the average. There's actually kind of two averages. One's 14 and a half and the other is 26 low based Vaginal and c-section. Oh c-sections 20 more 26. Yeah It's more expensive all grand more. Yeah worth it worth it. Have you seen the the like Infographics of what they do for those that is so much more of a real deal major surgery than I used to thought you could do it And can one of you guys? like surgery than I used to. Oh, you could do it. And can one of you guys come through like they're explaining it like I'm five as
Starting point is 03:06:47 a Canadian where this would be free? How does a poor person have a child in the United States on the bill? So we pay taxes and then when if Kyle goes and has a child at the hospital, he pays whatever his insurance won't on that 15 grand. If Kyle's neighbor with no money has a child, then Kyle, he pays whatever his insurance won't on that 15 grand. If Kyle's
Starting point is 03:07:06 neighbor with no money has a child, then Kyle pays for the birth via his taxes. So if you're not broke, you have insurance and then your bill is about 2,500 and there's a cap. It doesn't matter. I know I had two different bills earlier, but your expenses are about 2,500 either way. If you have insurance. If you don't, then I think emergency Medicaid reimburses the hospital after you skip out on the bill. So, because I'm thinking, I'm comparing a medical bill to like a student loan.
Starting point is 03:07:38 That shit follows you no matter what, even through bankruptcy. So is a medical bill, medical debt, something that can just be easily skipped on that won't get you sent to prison, won't get your wages garnished or anything like that? I think medical bills literally the most common reason for bankruptcy in America and you can skip it like you said. Yeah, yeah you can but they will like put a lien on your property and stuff for it right? I think there's a bit. So, so three major credit bureaus, let's see, paid medical debt, paid medical collections are no longer reported. Small debt medical debt above under 500 is no longer reported.
Starting point is 03:08:19 There's a waiting period of 12 months, like you have so many opportunities to like take care of it. And they'll, you can negotiate. We had a guest famously negotiated his buddies. ER stitches down from, it was thousands down to hundreds. And it may have been like $250. How about, like I got, I got 225 on me. Like, like they started at like thousands and they got down to like something like
Starting point is 03:08:46 that. I think that whenever I had my cancer surgeries, I think they tried to bill me three times instead of just two, I had two surgeries and there was like a third bill and I was disputing them about it. And they're like, how about you just give us like $93 I don't think I owe you anything And it was but it was like they had gone down from thousands to like pennies like like like that They just wanted anything to get did you feel like you overpaid because it happened to me I hired an attorney in the woody craft days and I forget what the bill was but I think it was 17,000 if not, it was close and I paid the bill right on time. I don't like debt.
Starting point is 03:09:28 And then he writes me nine months later. He's like, this bill still isn't paid. I'll take seven grand. And I was like, I already paid you 17. He's like, oh, you're right. Okay, my bad. And I'm like, motherfucker. Like I could have just skipped on it.
Starting point is 03:09:46 No, that fucking sucks. Yeah. Yeah. I, like, I wish I didn't know that that was a possibility. Just sending out invoices, hoping for the best. You're just going to pay it. The people that send out wedding invitations to billionaires around the world, hoping to get some, some gifts. That's probably a good idea. Yeah. It's a, it's a pretty weird system we have here. Probably be better than having that old, that old universal healthcare. I don't know, man. Like I,
Starting point is 03:10:13 there are moments where I wish I could just pay. Like for example, I had the some, some hip problems and I wanted to get some imaging done. And I just got to the point where I'm like, I'm just going to cross the border and pay $300 to do it there rather than waiting the seven plus months to get the same imaging done. And I just got to the point where I'm like, I'm just gonna cross the border and pay $300 to do it there, rather than waiting the seven plus months to get the same work done. I, if I had the option to pay for certain medical things
Starting point is 03:10:34 in Canada, I 100% would. What would you do? I thought it did. I thought there was some like Cadillac doctors who serve people who can pay. Literally no. Okay, no. I didn't know that. I thought the same thing that you can like,
Starting point is 03:10:47 in fact, it's almost impossible here to get a family doctor. I couldn't get a family doctor as a single man. It wasn't until I shacked up with my missus that I was able to get on to her family doctor. Cause there's just too many people for the amount of doctors that we have here. Cause our doctors get paid like shit. So they prefer to take their expertise
Starting point is 03:11:05 and go to the United States and get paid significantly more. Makes sense. I don't know anyone who fusses at doctor's salaries. Like that part of the bill, we're all kind of like, well, maybe some do, but mostly Americans are like, they should be making halfway to seven digits or even seven digits, depending on the specialty.
Starting point is 03:11:26 It's the drugs. It is hard for me to swallow how much we pay for drugs when people get the same drug. And I'm talking about like prescription drugs in other countries. They should just instantly allow you to import it. Oh, is insulin expensive? I'm getting it from Canada.
Starting point is 03:11:43 I'm getting it from Canada. I'm getting a diabetic president stat.'m getting it from Canada. Getting a diabetic president's stat. Like that would get solved that day. He'd be like, whoa, first things first. All right, well then we gotta, so who do we got other than Chris Christie? I'm serious, he's easily the fattest one in the Congress. He's f-tier.
Starting point is 03:12:02 Trump looks like he should have diabetes. Like he looks like the kind of guy who enjoys a, I don't know, little Hershey's cream vibe before bed. Looks like it, dude, he's drinking full sugar cokes and eating candies. No, always diet coke. Oh, you're right. I've seen him eat other junk and candy. Actually, you know what?
Starting point is 03:12:18 I've never seen him eat sweets. He seems like more of a- I've never seen him laugh. He's more of a savory man. Not a ha. Not a tee hee. Not a teehee. Someone near him said he never laughs, but he'll laugh at people like as a kind of insult. Yes. But he doesn't laugh like at jokes. Yeah. He clearly like he'll do a fake laugh when he knows he's supposed to, but it's never like,
Starting point is 03:12:43 like I feel like most politicians, you can catch them laughing at something. At some point, he doesn't. I sent you the other day, the one with Marco fake laughing. And it's like, dude, you know the cameras are there. Like if you're gonna fake laugh, go, ha ha ha ha, ah, hmm. And then like, have your smile fade away slowly
Starting point is 03:13:02 as you like readjust to the not like he's like and then Trump says something else and he goes you're behind the fucking resolute desk there's there's not one camera there's not 12 there must be 30 pointed at you right now there's flashes going off you might rubio is a Melania does the same thing, but I feel like it's spiteful for her. It's almost like she's sort of signaling. I got to do what I got to do. You know what I mean? We all learn our money.
Starting point is 03:13:34 She's included. Yep. She can't she can't smile. So get wrinkled. I saw the clip of Ted Cruz and he's a he's it's before Trump was really like and he's like, and we're gonna do our best to reelect Donald J Trump and everybody starts clapping and his wife who Trump called famously called ugly she's clapping and but Ted Cruz's oldest daughter goes yeah at the and then she goes don't clap for that don't clap for that to the end the wife is just
Starting point is 03:14:03 like you want to even fucking flinch. She's a real one. That's what I would expect out of my wife. Look, if you're a politician, you got to fucking kiss the ring. All right. You want to move up in the world or not? Do you want another vacation house, honey? Do you want to keep going on these ridiculously timed vacations where we're always away from our state when natural disasters hit? Well, then we got to kiss the ring. Okay. We got to be happy for Trump.
Starting point is 03:14:24 Got to do it. These vacations to Europe and fucking Sicily aren't free. I don't know where Ted Cruz always is, natural disasters hit? Well, then we got to kiss the ring. Okay, we got to be happy for Trump. Got to do it. These vacations to Europe and fucking Sicily aren't free. I don't know where Ted Cruz always is, but every time a natural disaster happens, he comes back in like flip flops, board shorts, and a Tommy Bahama shirt. Has it happened more than once?
Starting point is 03:14:37 What happened? Did they call him? Yes, he was going for the freeze. He was going for the freeze last year. Oh, the one I'm thinking of is longer, like farther back than that. Maybe three times now. I don't remember a third one, but I did see a picture of him in like Greece. The little girl's getting swept away. This one this week.
Starting point is 03:14:54 He was in an incredibly unflattering pose taking a picture of the Parthenon. I guess he was in Greece during all that shit. And like, man, someone needed to tell him like, like his service agent or whatever being like, sir, I, you sure you want to go with those shorts and that t shirt? Like before we step outside, because he's got a big old belly. His legs are like spindly and he has a he has a real diplomat body. And it's like him doing that, like bad back arch picture, where he like he's like kind of slumped in his heads forward and his belly's out and his legs look, he looks awful.
Starting point is 03:15:30 And he was just traipsing around Greece, looking like a schlub. On the other hand, that beard does a lot of heavy lifting. He is, looks so much better than he used to. That's true. You know, he's got that gray in the beard, Woody, who. He has less gray than me. Am I older than Ted Cruz?
Starting point is 03:15:46 I don't know. Stingwist looking gentleman. I do think it's kind of insane how closely attached your top politicians are to like the WWE. You guys got like Linda McMahon. Who's that on the left? Daughter maybe.
Starting point is 03:16:03 How old is she potentially? I think she's underage, Kyle. The one in the red dress that I saw the same video, I'm pretty sure she might've. I don't know. Why would they blur out a picture of like a member of the family? Like I would imagine that's just some random person.
Starting point is 03:16:18 Yeah. I don't know. They didn't blur out the background people, so maybe not. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's his underage daughter. Either way. Not like you shouldn't be wearing shorts. Leave her So maybe not. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's his, uh, his underage daughter either way. Not like you should be alone.
Starting point is 03:16:28 Jesus. I saw his, I saw his lecherous eyes. Like I'm resting here trying to look up their age. Santi, who else other than Trump has been like, have any other of our politicians? Yeah. You guys have Linda McMahon. You guys have Linda McMahon. Oh my God. Who did this whole story arc where she was a comatose cuck,
Starting point is 03:16:48 where she was being wheeled around by Vince McMahon as Vince McMahon would fuck and make out with all of the hot women that he would hire in the WWE. And the big reveal was that at WrestleMania, she stands up and everybody's cheering that Linda McMahon is awake from her comatose State so like Yes, yeah by Kane another one of your Local politicians. He is the mayor of Knox County. I believe heavy Republican guy Goes to all the Trump stuff and sometimes he brings his cane pyro and mask to his do the things that he does in politics. But yeah, dude, it blows my mind that the
Starting point is 03:17:31 president of the United States is a WWE Hall of Famer. You know what he does, right? Vince McMahon's head. Linda McMahon is the Secretary of Education in our great country. I'll have you know. Didn't she say instead of AI, a one or did I have education or whatever? Instead of AI, she said a one education. Yeah, we're gonna get a one technologies to these kids
Starting point is 03:17:53 in these schools. They're gonna be learning rapidly with this a one technology. I was talking about returning steak sauce manufacturing domestically, obviously, true. Of course, they want steak sauce manufacturing domestically. Obviously. Of course. I love a one steak sauce. It's got raisins in there. We wanted it last week. On a cheap cut of meat, it's not bad. And it's, you know,
Starting point is 03:18:10 and a lot of people are too, oh, you toyydy, too pink. I need more raspberries in my diet in general. It's raisins. I think it's an underappreciate. Is it raisins? It is. I think you're right.
Starting point is 03:18:19 But you're right. Raspberries are solid, as are blackberries and blueberries. Every time I'm at the store and I buy berries, I'm like, I should buy more berries. Blueberries are amazing. Strawberries are duds. People overestimate strawberries. If you're not home growing your strawberries, these things are, they're great. They look wonderful and they taste like nothing. You put strawberries and blueberries together. The blueberries are doing all the heavy lifting on that bowl. You do need, my grandparents brought
Starting point is 03:18:43 strawberries up most recently that they bought from these like Mennonite people that live near them that they grow. And those are fantastic. But you're right about like non-organic, like store bought strawberries. Like there's a reason people put like sugar and shit on the, like there's, they're just water. They don't have the natural sweetness.
Starting point is 03:19:00 I don't think the immigrants are picking them properly. I think, I think they, maybe do they need to stay on the vine longer? Not long enough. I don't know. I don't think the immigrants are picking them properly. I think, I think they, maybe do they need to stay on the vine longer? Not long enough? I don't know. I don't know. They're just not able to pick them like the Americans do. I'm 100% with you. I look at a beautiful strawberry and I... The immigrants picking strawberries. Exactly. If you're gonna do it, do it right. Jason, strawberries, they look like they should taste like strawberry ice cream. That's what I want strawberries to taste like. But they just, I don't know. I don't like, I think they look like they should taste like strawberry ice cream.
Starting point is 03:19:25 That's what I want strawberries to taste like. But they just, I don't know. I don't like, I think they're bland. I think the maybe a little bit too sour. They're not my jam, man. They're, they're a low tier berry, but they look beautiful. Dude, kiwis are what strawberries cosplay as they're way better. Kiwis are great.
Starting point is 03:19:41 It's like, it's the same problem with store bought, like crappy strawberries that you get from tomatoes in so many establishments where like You'll think you're gonna get a tomato taste and then it's just a disk of water that's mushy and there isn't even the suggestion of flavor, not even the whisper of flavor. And then you have a real tomato from a real garden like the kind my grandparents bring up. It's like, oh, that's why I used to eat these like apples, like running around the farm. Is it my wife said it's cause they don't rotate crops or something, but she knows as much about farming as I do. I have no idea. I just know that the taste doesn't lie. It is way better. It's gotta be the hydroponics or something. They're just growing them on in those water dishes or whatever. They're just,
Starting point is 03:20:21 there's no flavor in there. I, and I do know that in some instances, the varieties of certain fruit that are prettier and more ideal looking and also easier to ship are the blander varieties. So I bet you there's a tastier strawberry that's just rarely in season and hard to ship or something. I know with apples, like apples used to taste better, but they have bred apples selectively for appearance, not taste. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:20:50 I was going to say the current banana that exists is not the banana. The current banana is like some, like trying to save bananas from extinction banana. Cause the real banana, which was smaller and tastier and much fruitier, it went extinct. That's what I was going to say. On top of that, you know how banana candy tastes?
Starting point is 03:21:12 You know how banana candy always tastes? You're like, that's not what bananas taste like. It used to be. It used to be. That's what the bananas that went extinct tasted like. When was this? Is there anyone alive who's had a good banana? Can you still get them somewhere? I don't know. I bet you can. Some somewhere in, I don't
Starting point is 03:21:30 know, some tropical island. I bet they got real banana. I was there at Gandalf. Thousand years ago. Yeah. No, I mean like if, because when you talk about that artificial banana flavor, I think of banana runs from when I was up And I I hated I would eat around the banana runs I don't like those so if that's the change they've made to bananas, but modern bananas taste better than banana runs You know, that's the candy five version. You can imagine growth was just a stronger taste to your taste Runs as a whole were a shit-tier candy when some fucking idiot was handed those little boxes out on Halloween as a kid I wanted to burn their house down. I feel about nerds.
Starting point is 03:22:07 Better, but still not, I want something with chocolate on it. I don't want a contract now. Well, I mean, ideally, but if I'm going for a sugary confection, the nerds can get on board. I feel like Taylor's is dealing, like I like gourmet candy better than crap candy. Okay, let's talk about crap candy though. Where are you, Smarties guy?
Starting point is 03:22:23 I would prefer Sprees to smarties. Smarties were too sour. I don't like sprees. I like smarties. I'm sorry. Smarties they're like these. Smarties here are chocolate. Oh no, ours are, they're like candy.
Starting point is 03:22:37 That's like, it's like a shock tart almost. Or I guess I think I'm thinking of smarties as shock tarts cause I always hated shock tarts. I don't like sour candy. sour candy very similar to spree. They're that sort of large rounded disk that's like and they're like the size of a pill like Like anti Size they're like they're
Starting point is 03:23:01 There and they're not chewy Marty's American my fucking mind in the in Canada. Your smarties are something we called Rockets. Yeah, okay. I'm thinking something else then. Yeah, I'm thinking of let me find you thinking of shock tarts. Well, the picture I had here, they were big.
Starting point is 03:23:17 I think these are Canadian smarties that I'm looking at. Yeah, they are bigger than American smarties are similar though. The sprees are like they're like smooth, like Sprees are similar though. The Sprees are like. They're like smooth, like almost like they're sprayed with a candy coat, except there's no delicious chocolate on the inside. Yeah, the Smarties on top of the American ones,
Starting point is 03:23:32 if you hit them with a hammer, you just have dust. They also came on the little bracelets and necklaces, the candy bracelets, remember those? Yeah. Oh, those were great. They'd be like, the dye would be melting to your sweaty skin, and then you'd have like a
Starting point is 03:23:45 rainbow pattern on your skin after those are great yeah the canadian one is rockets that was a low tier candy i would be upset with a home if they gave me rockets on halloween terrible you were right to make candies i think i would rank junior mints far higher than most people junior mints peppermint patties they're top tier to me that That's a premium candy. I'm thinking for Rarero Rocher if we're talking about some premium candy. I want a candy that that that flaunts. I wanted to show up with a colorful aluminum foil. Do you think a child would appreciate that though? Yes! Rarero Rocher? Yeah, I did. Okay, all right. Crunchy hazelnut and then like milky deep gooey chocolate. Those things are incredible. I want one now. It's cause they were on the top shelf
Starting point is 03:24:26 of the candy section of CVS. And like, my mom would never buy us Ferrero Rocher. Like, and I, in my head, it was like, these are like pricey as hell. Like this is rich person candy. And then like growing up and being like, she just didn't want us fucking dropping. Cause every single candy in a Ferrero Rocher
Starting point is 03:24:44 has like seven pieces of trash to lose It's an absolute mess I never buy that kind of thing or like the um the Valentine's Day shaped chocolates like It'll be like March 12th, and I'm like, you know, you can have that if you know Financial burden, but I would never buy that kind of thing. I had, you know, when I had that full realization as an adult, that no one is going to stop me from buying as many Reese's themed Christmas tree shaped orbs of chocolate and peanut
Starting point is 03:25:19 butter, and that they were selling them like the size of like your fist, and you can get them for 69 cents a piece and they're delicious. I bought too many of those a couple years in a row. I've had them a long time. For me my adult realization of I can just fucking do this is open every door of the advent calendar right at the start of December. I'm not fucking waiting every single day at nighttime to open one of these doors. We're opening all of these on December 2nd. Oh my God. I'm strong and quartered for this. Is that what it is? I'm strong and quartered.
Starting point is 03:25:49 Strong and quartered. Yeah. I think I mixed up a few questions. All these different punishments. You'd be stilettoed and- Both of those are much worse than they sound. I'd be strong and feathered for something like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:26:04 I don't buy much actual candy, although I did have a period probably eight months ago where I bought a giant container of peanut butter M&Ms and I'm sorry, peanut butter, peanut M&Ms, peanut M&Ms love them, my favorite kind of M&M. And I ate through them too quick. And then I just kind of had like a week or two period where I'd be at the grocery store and I'd be like, who's hurting me? That's who it's hurting. Making me a fat fuck. And then I got off that. But I probably didn't end up eating like two or three families has bags of them over the course of Can I hit that back? I haven't purchased it yet. But like in my Costco cart, and I mean for the last nine months in my Costco cart has been a three pound barrel of peanut M&Ms. And every time
Starting point is 03:26:52 I go into Costco to like, I usually, I will get like Kirkland steaks or something off there on a big pack. I'll be like, just sitting there waiting. Like, it's like, it's like, it's like layaway. It's just sitting there. And I swear to God, it's a bucket of them. It's this, it's this tall. For the screw on lid. You're standing in Costco and I'm Walt in the back of the truck. Ah! So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, whatever, but on the road for some reason, my discipline turns off. So I'm on the road and I'm like, man,
Starting point is 03:27:26 I prefer almond M&Ms to peanut M&Ms. And this is the conversation I had in my head. It was like, ah, do I want peanut M&Ms or almond M&Ms? Almonds are bigger, so there's fewer M&Ms. But look, they have more bags right here. I could have two. That's what I did. But look, they have more bags right here. Oh, you do sell multiple bags. Okay.
Starting point is 03:27:52 And there'll be no questions. No problem at all. Remember that? Have you seen that Liam Neeson scene from the Teddy bear Ted movie? Yeah. Ted's a little Teddy bear is he's gotten a job working the checkout counter at a supermarket and Liam Neeson walks in but it's like Liam Neeson from the Taken movies. He's in character and he's buying tricks.
Starting point is 03:28:11 He's like I understand that these are only for children. Yeah that's what the advertisements say. Yeah. But you sell them to adults. We will yeah on occasion. And there'll be no trouble, no questions. I will be followed or pursued. No, no, you just, give me the $3. All right, thank you very much.
Starting point is 03:28:34 And he slips him in his coat and slinks away. And it's just a weird little throwaway bit, but I love it. It sounded like Norm MacDonald was working to register there. Yeah, I mean, tell a story before you buy those. Just waste your time for 20 minutes. That's my attempt at like that Bostonian accent that he did. I heard it.
Starting point is 03:28:54 Peter Griffin too. Yeah, I thought that was good. It was also a little bit of that. Who's the, I think it was an HBO show. You love it. He's a murderer, but he doesn't look that tough. He's bald Mr. Oh mr. Mr. Inbetween. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 03:29:20 Yeah Eating candy as an adult anytime but Halloween, like, like I, is almost embarrassing. Like if I'm just munching on a bunch of peanut M&Ms and someone walks in, I feel like I need to make an excuse where it's like, I never do this. Like this isn't, and then they look at me and be like, you do. Yeah, Taylor, what often happens in our household, like we have a like a fit household here. But sometimes Sarah will bring like a bunch of candy from work or whatever some function she'll now and now have a bag of chocolate or like, like Easter candy is now in here. And my logic is you've ruined my diet until I get through these, I can't ignore them. I have to now eat all of them today
Starting point is 03:30:06 so that they aren't here for an extended period of time ruining my diet every day. So let me lock myself up now with all of them, pay my penance, and then get back on my diet as soon as possible. That's really a heroic act for you to eat. The more you're saving everyone else's diet. It's bravery. Thank you. It's your own sort of bronze star, you know, that Tim Kennedy admitting to admitted to fibbing about in a big tweet.
Starting point is 03:30:35 Yeah, that dude, he acted like it wasn't his fault or he was the victim in that apology. It was funny. He's like, I sometimes would overtly claim on dozens of occasions that I had one apron star. Did he say inadvertently claim? Like, like, let me see. Let me see his Twitter. He posted a giant thing. I didn't do it was like many paragraphs. I didn't read all of it. I unintentionally misstated aspects of my military service. Unintentionally, like, you know what? Sometimes I get mixed up on whether I have a medal for valor also.
Starting point is 03:31:15 Sometimes it slips my mind. Do I or do I not have a Silver Star? Yeah, I was under fire by Bosnian snipers at the airport. You know, no big deal. Most notably, I implied directly or indirectly that I had been awarded with the Bronze Star of Valor. Like, bro. That's such a funny thing to lie about.
Starting point is 03:31:36 Don't they keep track of that? Like, isn't that a high enough thing? Cause I think it's like Medal of Honor, Silver Star, Bronze Star, right? Like it's up there. Like it's not like who got in trouble? Was it John Kerry that got in trouble many years ago? Like exaggerating Purple Heart claims or something?
Starting point is 03:31:52 Like it's not as easy to, some politician did that. I don't remember. So John Kerry was in trouble for his medals, but they said that the medals were easy to earn during the Vietnam War, not that he didn't earn them. Okay, well at least he got it legit. And even if it was a little, you know, like, I don't remember that movie. Maybe it was Full Metal Jacket where the guys are collecting them almost like,
Starting point is 03:32:11 yeah, and I'm going to get another one for this sprained ankle. And then there's that one guy like burned to a crisp. And they're like, you fuckers. I'm actually I deserve this one. But yeah, you see Ben Askren. Yes. Oh, my God. I didn't recognize his face at first. It's rough.
Starting point is 03:32:27 Ben Askren had a double lung transplant. Do you know? Like, OK, OK, I know he had a double lung transplant. I'm not sure what happened. Why is he so ill? I read pneumonia, which must be the craziest pneumonia anyone's ever gotten to lead to a double lung transplant. He's got hospice face. Like they are readying him to-
Starting point is 03:32:52 I said he died four times. Yeah, down river sticks to Hades. Like it looks like he is just that bad. Like he's already got one foot in death. Like when I saw it, I didn't believe that was Ben Askren. Do you remember his weight, Kyle? He said his weight, I think he went from 200 something
Starting point is 03:33:06 to like 147. That's scary. Yeah, I guess, I think I heard it cost four million or five million or something for the double lung transplant. You want to talk about medical bills. I think Jake Paul said he was gonna give him a million dollars. And I'm sure that like now that that video has gone out, I'm hoping that other people in the MMA community will like help him
Starting point is 03:33:28 out. So they should be chipping in like, like somebody should be helping or at least doing a fundraiser. Like do I love to see Dana help? He, I'm sorry to interrupt it. He popped in my head too, but, um, I don't think he and Dana have ever had a good relationship, right? They haven't, but Dana's a scumbag. He doesn't help him out. Yeah. I think it's a scumbag.
Starting point is 03:33:51 Whether he helps or not or not. Now we need the the Brazilian priest more than ever. Right. Yeah. One razor for Ben Askren. You wouldn't need as many balloons because he's so it looks like you're calling offered to pay his entire. I'm sorry, Taylor, do you want to? Oh, no, I said Jake Paul, like Kyle said, given half a million dollars.
Starting point is 03:34:13 Andrew Tate said he'd pay the whole thing. It sounds like a flex. Yeah, well, he's do it. He's got all those fancy cars. Maybe you can sell one and help him out. Yeah, that is so sad that you see someone who's like a. like a Titan, like, and like, you kind of are a Titan of a dude. If you're fighting in UFC at all, like you're not only a fighter, like even if you kind
Starting point is 03:34:32 of stink, it's like any other professional sport where it's like, Oh, this guy who's kind of like the worst tight end in the NFL, you know, isn't that great? Put them in the Canadian football league, put them in the Australian rugby league and teach them the rules and let's see how he does. Like I was gonna thrash. And then like seeing Ben Askren like full faced and like strong and then him like literally looking like he's like a civil war veteran,
Starting point is 03:34:55 like who's been in a tent and all cut up. Like that's gonna be like emotionally horrifying. Like to your body betrays you. Askren was really good. Did you wanna say Kyle? Yeah, I was gonna say he cames you. Asker was really good. Did you want to say Kyle? Yeah, I was going to say, he came from another organization. He was very good. He has a really unusual wrestling technique.
Starting point is 03:35:12 Joe Rogan used to sing his praises all the time. He was like, this guy could just come to the UFC. And then he came to the UFC. He won his first fight against Robbie Lawler, kind of. He won the fight, let's leave it at that. And then his next fight was against Jorge Mazvidal, fucking Street Jesus from Miami. And that is one of the most famous knockouts of all time in UFC history. As soon as the fight began, they rushed each other,
Starting point is 03:35:36 and Jorge kneed him in the head, knocking him instantly unconscious. It was shocking. So before the UFC, Ben Ashken was a Bellator champ, an organization that was always considered not as big, you're not as good as the UFC. But the fighters I think made just as much. And when the Bellator guys know when the strike force guys came over, they did better. The Bellator guys, they never combined. Anyway, then he went from
Starting point is 03:36:00 Bellamore Bellator with this big name to one FC, something like that, one fighting championship. And he was their champ for a long time. He just he went like a decade without being beaten. If I'm exaggerating, it's not by much. And then he went to the UFC at the very tail end of his career, beat Robbie Lawler in a victory that I loved because I respect like heart and grit a lot and And then you got the big knockout and I don't remember any more UFC fights You're muted Kyle He may have retired after that. I don't remember him fighting anymore in the UFC either. So wish him the best I hope that some people step up. They need to get a fundraiser together. I you know, I would send some pennies he needs All the best to that guy. That looks
Starting point is 03:36:45 rough and great fighter. In UFC news, we got Derrick Lewis fighting this weekend. Definitely going to watch that. That's a free one. Definitely going to get a KO. Derrick Lewis knocks people the fuck out. He's always funny. They asked him on Errol Hauwani if he wanted to fight top three guys or he wanted to contend for the belt again, he was like, fuck no, I wanna keep knocking out taxi drivers. That's a good line. That's a great line. And then after that card, after this week,
Starting point is 03:37:14 coming up, let's see, July 19th, Holloway versus Poirier three, which is Poirier's retirement fight. And I'm really looking forward to it. Did you say that was July 19th? Yeah. Oh, that's sooner than I realized. In my head, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls,
Starting point is 03:37:42 the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, the bulls, July 4th, 2026. Okay. I forgot what year it was. I know. I had it on the bottom right of my screen. I only, look, when you're in school or when I was in business and I was writing the date over and over, of course, I need the day and the day. I had a calendar on my desk that was meticulous. Of course I know what day it is.
Starting point is 03:38:00 But I mean, shit, they don't even release TV shows on a schedule anymore. It's hard to keep up. I was like, I'll write even release TV shows on a schedule anymore. It's hard to keep up. I was I'll write a check and I'll be like. What year is it? Makes me like it's currently 2020. I'm like, don't tell everybody I forgot. You know, the day in the month, but not the year.
Starting point is 03:38:21 Grab me out of the muffler shop. Yeah, for real, I'll forget the year sometimes. So that fight I'm definitely looking forward to. That's huge. But after that, and a couple months, we've got Dricus Duplessis fighting old hair lip to my duplessis fighting to my and to me, that's the that's the fight of the year that I'm looking forward to. That's the big one.
Starting point is 03:38:42 That's the one that means the most to me. Like if Duplessis loses, I'm going to be like sad. I'm going to be upset. It's going to be a bad day. It'll be a bad week. If Chmaev doesn't show, he's missed so many fights. If that gets canceled, it's the thing about MMA, man. Like the Superbowl is definitely going to happen. In MMA, sometimes you find out during the weight cut that the Super Bowl got canceled. They can get creative and throw somebody else in there. You know, I like when we got backup fights.
Starting point is 03:39:13 I like that wild card aspect for a certain fighter storyline, or if like, Chumayev is your guy and you really want to see that fight, I see where it's upsetting. But I also like that chaotic nature of the UFC where you might get the Super Bowl, but the bills get to show up instead of the Eagles this year, like whatever. Like sometimes Nate Diaz wins. Sometimes Nate Diaz fucking wins or just shows you something that you didn't know he had even in a well-fought loss.
Starting point is 03:39:41 You know, you get to see cool stuff. When that happens, you get Sean Strickland is your your champion when stuff like that happens. It gets wacky. That's why I like the UFC so much. You don't know what you're gonna get. It might be a shit show. Sometimes it is, but this weekend's a weekend full of knockouts. I looked at the betting odds. There are no close fights. It's a lot of like 1,000 favorites and stuff like that. There's going to be a lot of a lot of knockouts this weekend. Even wonderboy Thompson is fighting some killer like that. They hate that poor wonder boy. They hate that guy. What did he do? How did he get
Starting point is 03:40:14 fight when the guy didn't make weight? The guy missed weight by several pounds and he was like, ever since then they've been putting him up against assassins. He's 40. He's 40. He's 41. Yeah, in the face. Yeah, he does. He does. But he's not. He's not. And his fighting style isn't the best for being 40, right? I feel like he'd be quick and like counter punching if you're a point karate kind of specialist guy. If he were a wrestler who could grind people out maybe, but he's not that guy. I expect him to get mauled. Sandy, are you pretty invested in UFC as well? Or just not as far? I became a lot more invested when Brock Lesnar went down there. I'm like, ah,
Starting point is 03:40:54 a guy that I know. And I actually like kind of fell in love with MMA there for a little bit because of the showmanship that was bringing out this genetic freak Brock Lesnar out there. And I stuck around with it for a little while. I fell off there throughout a huge chunk of the 2010s, but I kind of came back to it only recently with WWE and UFC kind of like marrying each other under TKO. But like there's a there's a gap in my knowledge there that I'm still trying to to piece everything together and as I become a fan again Okay, because I always imagined a good bit of overlap, but yeah, very different
Starting point is 03:41:33 I I do wish personally that they were that they all had to go through promo school like wwe superstars all have to go Uh to promo school learn how to cut a good promo because, yeah, it's cool seeing all these guys from, I'm not really sure the area where Dagestan, Dagestan, all the Dagestani guys, they're amazing. But like, I wish they could talk. I wish they could cut a good promo. I wish they could get me to get emotionally invested outside of just then just kicking ass.
Starting point is 03:42:01 That was always my problem with George St. Pierre. He also was just incredibly boring. And he's just like, I'm gonna have a good fight. Yeah, we'll see. I don't know. Well, okay. Thanks for getting me excited. If you're a super fan,
Starting point is 03:42:15 the moments of them being interesting, like hit that much harder because they've never been to promo school and they're kind of inherently bored. I think it was Koschek. He fought GSP and lost, and then he got a rematch. I hope I have the story right. And he's like, if you're like me, you want to be champion.
Starting point is 03:42:37 And after I beat you, you're 37 years old. Do you think you'll ever get a shot at this? I am not just beating you. I am destroying your legacy. You will never have the career you aspired to have because you're not gonna work your way back up to a title fight ever again. You're on the downhill and it was just like, holy shit.
Starting point is 03:43:00 He's dropping truth bombs on this guy. And then he did it two days later. And it was just like, holy smokes. Like he did, it was inspiring to me. I love that shit. And the Dagestani guys, same sort of thing. Like you're right, nine times out of 10, it's kind of a dry interview.
Starting point is 03:43:18 But then they deliver something in that Russian accent. Like they show a little bit of humor and it cracks me up. There's one guy, maybe Kyle can help me. Is it who bought the excavator? Like someone just lost his pound for pound ranking to his lot. I think so. I see him in his backyard like like like farming, growing tomatoes and stuff in Dagestan. You know, he's dirt around. He's he's got a a tiller. He's got a little a little gasoline
Starting point is 03:43:45 tiller in his backyard like putting a garden in. He bought an excavator. Kyle, I don't know how much it looks like it weighs 28 tons. Like it's not a small machine and he's got a pile of dirt that would easily fit in a pickup truck that he's using. It's 28 times and I think he just moves it six feet and then moves it back as far as I can tell and they're like you know everyone's upset on his behalf because he's now pound for pound number two. Another guy fall out did really, really well. And I don't know who's pound for pound top.
Starting point is 03:44:13 You can make an argument either way. But they're like, you're all upset. Meanwhile, here's him. And he's learning to use an excavator, just having fun with his millions. And that kind of stuff, like you have to look for it on Reddit for every piece of video to find something interesting. But it's there.
Starting point is 03:44:32 I like when a guy is genuinely entertaining, but fake entertaining, especially for a meathead, I see right through it. I like I don't like Sean O'Malley. I find him to be so boring and cringing and lame. His hair and his tattoos and the whole bit. I don't like any of it. I think it's silly. And it's not you. I don't think that's you. I think that's you trying to be flamboyant and memorable and be a superstar. And kudos to you, but that ain't you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:45:03 I thought you liked this guy. No. When I see- Oh, no way. patty the baddies who i was thinking of i do like patty the baddie because i think he's just a weird dude i that i bet he's had that haircut for a minute i bet that it just how he sounds his mom gave it to him at two he's like all right we've got that part of my life solved to lock it up that disgusting scouser accent or whatever it is he's got that he gains so much weight. I empathize. I'm like, love that to go off. Did you guys see the video of him? When he was walking his dog and it took a shit on his. Yes. Mike took a shit. I took a wet shit. I can't pick it up. He's had like on their ring camera, just telling them about how wet his dog shit was
Starting point is 03:45:47 and he couldn't pick it up. And he's just so apologetic. Like, I'm so sorry, I can't pick it up. And the people on the other side are like, are you Patty the Batty? He's showing them it running through his fingers. I can't carry it. He looks like a child. It's like, of one that like one rain will take care of.
Starting point is 03:46:13 We will give him a little bit of a break. That is fun. Do you have a hose or something? Speaking of like athletes going up like in public to ring cameras, I think it was Barkov, Alexander Barkov, some Russian guy who plays for the Florida Panthers. And apparently like, obviously his neighbor is also a multimillionaire, probably lawyer, doctor or something. And he has a good relationship with him. He's like, oh yeah, when you,
Starting point is 03:46:39 Alexander, when you win the cup this year, be sure to bring it by. We'd love to see it again. And he's like, okay, I bring cup by when'd love to see it again and he's like okay I bring capai when because we going to win and then like they get absolutely shithoused after they win and it was like 2 53 in the morning and there's a video of him on his poor neighbor's ring camera like cheering by himself not even celebrating anymore but like ringing the doorbell over and over and over trying to be like I'm neighbor told me to bring Stanley Cup by so I bring it to him to see and
Starting point is 03:47:09 it's like oh I saw that and you thought that three or four a.m. on Wednesday is when you're like professional doctor neighbor would want to do it it's like you just know that it was that guy's wife like reaming him for it like why did you'd you tell that fucking weird Eastern European guy to bring that trophy? On the cause it's cool. It's a big trophy. I was, I knew that it was big, but seeing that big man carrying it like a whenever they're on the ice, the perspectives thrown off by the skates and the big open terrain and you can't really get a scale for things. But seeing him stand on a guy's stoop,
Starting point is 03:47:45 ringing his ring with a, that giant trophy. You really got an idea of just how big it is. Yeah. They, they went hard with it. Like that, that it's a very cool trophy in sports. And I mean, Barker, like I was waving this trophy on he's six, three, it's my favorite cup in sports. I agreed. It's really the, all the history, the names on it. There's like an extra bit of drama because they remove rings and put it in
Starting point is 03:48:09 the Stanley cup, like museum or the hockey hall of fame, whatever. And so in addition to like Toronto, not having one in forever, there will always be stories, which I feel so bad for, for you, Santi. Appreciate it. There will be stories where it's like, Hey guys, not only have they not made the Stanley Cup and fucking, you know, since boomers were still being born, but this is the year that their final win is
Starting point is 03:48:32 being removed from the bottom of the cup and so they won't even be a part of the trophy anymore. And it's like Toronto fans posting being like, what, what did we do to you? Like, how are you keeping track would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you?
Starting point is 03:48:46 Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you?
Starting point is 03:48:53 Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you?
Starting point is 03:48:59 Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? Edmonton win over Florida. You're rooting for that. I remember one last year and I don't like repeats. Fuck that. Dude, that was so important to me that we took. Look, I think the beef between American Canada is mostly funny, but I like to see it get inflamed online so I can get more funny.
Starting point is 03:49:16 So it's real, dude. It's fucking real. It's real. I needed Florida to win because the Meridians had been talking shit. Our politicians have been talking shit fucking Ron DeSantis had been poking his poking his finger in the Canadian Puddins eye or whatever the phrase should be and I was like we need to back this up with a W boys Come on now, this might be a hot take But I think it's okay to deport someone to an El Salvadorian supermax prison for rooting for a Canadian hockey team. Well, playoffs? Yeah, agreed and disagree.
Starting point is 03:49:50 It's like a season where I can touch you there, Taylor. I'm locked up. It was real here. And it's like I fell into that fucking troll trap of like getting angry with American hockey fans that just got into it and didn't actually give a shit. Uh, Taylor, do you remember when they were doing the, the all star game and it was like, you team USA beat Canada the first time around and in the final Canada one, I was dude, I was all over social media like, yeah, fuck yeah,
Starting point is 03:50:18 it's back in Canada. And they're like, we didn't even fucking care. The first place you guys can fucking have it. You fucking cared. Those guys didn't, but guys like me did. But like, I mean, again, it makes me a bad American. I deserve to be putting a Panamanian prison for it, I suppose. But like, I want to see Connor McDavid get a Stanley cup and it would also be cool to see Toronto get one because they haven't got one in 60 plus years. It'll be interesting what the parade looks like here.
Starting point is 03:50:47 I think the closest thing that we'll be able to compare it to was when the Cubs won the championship. I'd like to see what kind of damage was done there because they were waiting for a super long time. It'll be something because our parade for when the Raptors won was weirdly large. I'm like, when the fuck did we care about basketball this much? I love basketball, but when to see that many people in the streets care about the Toronto Raptors winning was shocking. And I would say that it, for every Raptors fan, I don't think I'm exaggerating there's 50 Leafs fans.
Starting point is 03:51:19 How long did you play for the Raptors? Yeah. An American for a year. It will do it again. Dude. Okay. So for those that don't know, we had like our heart and soul player was Damar DeRozan.
Starting point is 03:51:32 This is a guy that like really gave it his all for the country of Canada and the Raptors. And we shipped his ass off for a one season rental for Kawhi Leonard to win a championship. And it was like selling our soul to the devil. And I wish we could do it every season, Woody, because that was awesome. You know, wins a win. Like, yeah, you know, take them.
Starting point is 03:51:54 That's, that's good that, uh, it's, that's my favorite thing about Canada is that they like made and love hockey and that rules. That's their best cultural export by far. Hockey is the best sport ever. Canada is that they like made and love hockey in that rules. That's their best cultural export by far. Hockey is the best sport ever. I love it. So treatment of the natives. Huge shout out to Canada for hockey. That's the country knows how to take care of business. It's rough, dude. Yeah. They're changing like all the universities for everything that's happened,
Starting point is 03:52:20 that happened with like the, the native children and the residential schools. Cause they found like mass graves of like hundreds of children from these residential schools. They were sickly. Yeah we we hockey was like the only thing that we had any sort of like national pride about because there's really isn't a Canadian identity. It wasn't until like Trump started talking about like the tariffs were like yeah Canada let Canada was bad together. Don't buy American Yeah, we care about like Canadian Rose you guys gotta have a national identity that's not about
Starting point is 03:52:54 Being against a different country. You gotta you gotta have a little bedrock there first build on it And you got that bedrock of hockey. I know it's cross lacrosse is big there. But that already got beaten out by I heard they made the arm on the space show. Oh my gosh. And what a good job they did. Is it even is it a good arm? That's such a deep cut. What he knows I'm glad you remember we were we're at a paintball event 50 fucking years ago. And one of the the youtubers that we invited I can't remember what his name was. Try hard ninja Mr. Probably probably him. He was remember what his name was. Try Hard Ninja, Mr. I Try Hard.
Starting point is 03:53:26 He was the one with a very wealthy family built on some sort of- Mr. I Try Hard. Yeah, Mr. Try Hard Ninja is the guy who would sing. He had that Pepsi company crate fortune that he was inheriting, the pallet fortune. And I don't know, it turned into like, whose country was better somehow. I don't even know how it happened, but he was like,
Starting point is 03:53:44 we made the arm on the space shuttle. It reaches out and grabs satellites. And I was like, we made the space shuttle. It goes to space and flies around the planet at 17,000 miles per hour. We got a couple of them. Wait, that was him bragging about Canada? That's what he chose?
Starting point is 03:54:03 Yeah, that was his hum, that was his brag. He was like, oh, I'll have, you know, we made the arm on the space shuttle. What's it attached to? What's it attached to? I think our biggest contribution to the world is like, I think we created insulin or like you made the first medical application of it
Starting point is 03:54:24 through a dude named Sir Frederick Banting. I think that's our biggest contribution. Insulin's pretty big. Did you know it was called the Canadarm? No way. They put a link to Wikipedia for the Canadarm. Obviously Canadians named it. You know what, when they're bragging about the arm, I think it's our duty to smile and be like, you sure did. But that's right. Like South Park came up with this. You made the arm. You guys are so adorable. Wow. So they flexing that arm
Starting point is 03:55:01 hard. They are. But I mean, isn't it with arms? This whole thing's getting old as hell. So they're going to need to, you know, dust off the old tomes and programs and make it we don't use it anymore. Yeah, the space shuttles retired. So the arm presumably also retired. Okay. Yeah, because it seems like a lot of most really most of the stuff up there, like International Space Station,
Starting point is 03:55:26 it's kind of the US and Russia building that, right? So we've got Space Force and the CIA is rumored to have some, they've built several like space-ish planes. No one knows what they have, but the theories are that they've got space planes that they can go up there and fuck with satellites. Cause that's the next thing. It's fucking with the other guy's satellites, I think.
Starting point is 03:55:44 I don't think it's the next thing. I think it's what we've been doing for a long time and no one's ever said a peep about it. Because if you could go into the enemy's military satellite, and I mean literally into it, not hack it, but fly a fucking CIA spaceman up there in a top secret plane and have him go on there and start hacking the thing physically,
Starting point is 03:56:02 seems like that would be an incredibly powerful bit of sabotage or espionage if you could do that sort of thing. And I know that a lot of the designs that come up with it. Yeah, I wanna go grab their satellite and tinker with it. I wanna put a listing device, something that I remember that somebody did this
Starting point is 03:56:19 to one of our embassies. They sent the coffee repair man, put in a device that just takes a picture every time they make a copy. So in the embassy, every top secret thing gets photocopied. You know, if you're gonna have a meeting, a top secret meeting, we need eight copies of this and shred it when you're done.
Starting point is 03:56:34 Well, the photocopier's taking a picture to everyone, you know, every time, it was just masterful espionage. I think they're doing something similar if they're in space. And Space Force, they just got a massive budget. It's not quite what ISIS. I didn't get ice level budget. All right, but they got like 30 40 billion or something like that more.
Starting point is 03:56:57 So like they're doing something with that. Better be cool. Of course, it's cool, but they won't tell you about it. Well, then we'll find out about the Epstein stuff in like 25 years, and we'll find out about the space plane stuff in maybe 20. All those people have to die before we find the truth about Epstein. Will that Epstein thing cling on to Trump for more than a week? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 03:57:21 Nobody makes a huge deal of it because so many people must be implicated that it's like a mind for a lot of these people where it's like, ah, we can't really go at him for this and that because this person, that person, and this person, and this whole group. Powerful people. Powerful people.
Starting point is 03:57:37 They're probably hesitant to go after it because they're like, oh, this actually kind of worked out because the head of these news agencies and these other politicians and these special interest groups, boards, and there were so many of these foreign national like so many people are probably compromised that they all are almost going to do like a they're all probably going to be fine. Towing the party line lie of like we it was investigated and there was no no wrongdoing. It's a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy theory. We investigated ourselves and found nothing. Yeah, hundreds of victims,
Starting point is 03:58:04 but no Johns it turns out. No, just just as Lane Maxwell. She was diddling them all, I guess. Well, but there weren't any because she wasn't doing anything. She's kind of cute. Senior rubbing Epstein's feet on that plane. I submit those like if you go to our discord,
Starting point is 03:58:24 it's like somebody's going on a rant right now and it's just nothing but Donald and Ghislaine pictures them together and it's like these are different parties, those are different ties, different suits. They really hung out a lot. There aren't this many pictures of me and Woody together. Me and Woody have been to several parties, Not as many as Donald and Ghislaine. It can't be Ghislaine. It's got to be Ghislaine, right? I was saying Ghislaine because I think it's kind of funny.
Starting point is 03:58:57 Wouldn't you think she'd have like a, I don't know, fucking customer book. Like here's what Prince whatever likes. And then just kind of like a log of things. Where's that log? I definitely did. A list of clients. Even if there's no list, there's a file from which a list can be made.
Starting point is 03:59:16 I feel like they're being overly semantic. Am I going over it? Yes. You know, where they're like, there's no list, there's no list. Yes, but there are thousands of pages and there's video tapes and anyone with like MS Word could make a list of the people implicated in this.
Starting point is 03:59:34 When they say there is no list, if that's true, we still know who's doing these things. What I think actually is going on there is that Epstein and Ghislaine were Mossad agents, that island was a honeypot and their deal was gathering powerful influential people from around the world and gaining blackmail on them, sexual blackmail and other kinds, video of them doing illicit things or just sort of like creating a network of them for Mossad for political purposes. And I think that the great wealth of blackmail material is in Israel in a database or maybe in a hard copy.
Starting point is 04:00:13 But whenever he got taken down, there were clearly materials on that island. And it's probably the tip of the iceberg. But there's something there. There are powerful people who are implicated, but they're just not going to spill the beans on their own. They're just really not. It's not going to happen. It's disgusting that it's not going to happen because it's right in front of our faces. It's- Yeah. And the people in charge of it, like if it is on a server there at whatever Masad's HQ is, like, they don't want it released because then your blackmail is gone. Like, they want it to be held over the heads of these people. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:00:50 There's a dollar amount assigned to each piece of blackmail that they gathered that was paid and investing in that island. And like, no one knows where Jeffrey Epstein got his money. That whole fortune is a Masad front. Those were American dollars going into Israeli bank accounts, then going into Jeffrey Epstein's bank account and propping him up and creating a fictional billionaire to go and wine and dine and grab people like Donald Trump Trump was my best buddy for 10 years. You know, like, and it's from the horse's mouth saying that he even like made fun of Trump's hair surgery. He's like, you know, he's got a hair surgery scar thing going on. You know, it's like, why have I never heard this stuff before? But anyway, it's- He had those weird paintings with, of US presidents. That's just weird. I'm not saying that is evidence of anything. It's just strange.
Starting point is 04:01:43 Yeah. There's lots of weird stuff going on that there's that want to's just weird. I'm not saying that is evidence of anything. It's just strange. Yeah. Yeah, there's lots of weird stuff going on that There's that wannabe physicist guy who's been in the in hot water because of some of his other takes Jeffrey Weinstein or something Anyway, that guy was talking about his meeting there how they like the tablecloth was an American Eric Weinstein. Thank you Nailed it. There's something how like like when he with Epstein, they talked about physics and astrophysics and string theory and some stuff like that. And he's like, it was weird though, like the tablecloth was an American flag. And it was like, he was sort of this like power move where he wanted me to like desecrate my own flag in some way by sitting with him at that table. There was these little like weird power moves. And he's the first one I heard like openly say on a podcast
Starting point is 04:02:25 that like he's a front for Mossad. That's what they do. That's what this whole thing, this is Israeli intelligence all over it. And he's like, when I talked to him, we would talk about money markets. And I was like, this guy doesn't know anything about money markets.
Starting point is 04:02:36 If he had done the things that he claims to do in money markets, I'd have seen the markets move. You can't, he's like, you can't move tens of billions of dollars without affecting the global economy in some minor way. We'd have known about Jeffrey Epstein. He's a figment a fabrication a fake Dummy sat there to to catch and lure and draw in powerful people for the purposes of sexual blackmail I agree. That's my that's the prevailing theory And trump was a ripe target.
Starting point is 04:03:05 I just feel like you want a honey pot. That's the kind of honey pot that catches Trump. A guy loves flattery, loves the idea of being around beautiful women. And what does this guy do? Fucking kisses your ass and seemingly he's got a harem of little girls for you to hang out with. And I could see Trump like maybe not even knowing that they're exactly I don't know I don't I'm not gonna fucking defend Lindsey Graham I forgot you when doubt it I doubt they got to go far to
Starting point is 04:03:33 get Lindsey Graham blackmail that's that's that's a fly to an island and bring out some little Brazilian boys they just did like just go talk to it for five minutes you You figure it out. Yeah. That guy's as gay as the day is long. Nothing wrong with that. It's just, is, you know. There's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 04:03:51 Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. It's just. But he shouldn't be pretending. He should be loud and proud. Well, he should be that guy. He shouldn't be who he is politically and that at the same time.
Starting point is 04:04:01 Yeah. Bigger fish to fry than the gays anyway. I don't know. I don't know what the deal is. Anywho, I've had all I can take. Santi, working everyone find your wonderful content, your streams, your videos. Sure. Just Google Santi's app, pick your poison, whether it's YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, Patreon, I'm there. If you like wrestling, that's where you should go.
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