Painkiller Already - PKA 761 W/ Chris James & Hutch: Kyle's Paranormal Experience

Episode Date: July 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKA 761. I think this show has two guests. I always know less than you might guess. Taylor? This episode of PKA is brought to you by Lock and Load, our wonderful merchandise, and of course Blue Chew. We'll talk more about that later. Kyle, I mean, I can hardly get over how different your surroundings look than what I've become accustomed to over these past few years. It's like the lights, the brightness, the... Did you move to another country? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:30 This is Australia. Everything's just... Dude, I should have flipped the camera. That was the... Just mirror. Everything's on the other side in the Southern Hemisphere, of course. Nah, I moved yesterday and I just got my setup put together maybe 30 minutes before the show It was it's been everything was in boxes, but got everything done. I know it looks identical
Starting point is 00:00:50 But that's because I'm gonna put I've got stuff now. I'm gonna put stuff behind me. Maybe but how motivation for getting a different place? getting closer to my lady friends school work stuff, just getting closer to that. And it was that time of the year where we were really gonna re-up our current lease or go to a new place and decided to do that. She got quite a drive she was baking. And like, I like this part of town better.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's on the opposite side of town. So it's a nicer side of town, I'll say. It wasn't a bad bad place but this is nicer I asked because you have dogs how do the yards compare yeah you've got that's um when I'm shopping for like a place to go it's like all right I got to have this in the kitchen I want this in the bathroom I need somewhere for my gym to be stored that's the best place like there's a it looks like a dungeon where they redid the basement in this house
Starting point is 00:01:46 and it's so cold down there, Woody. It's frigid. I almost put the office down there just because I was like, my God, I'm shivering. But I put the gym down there. So it's gonna be just so nice and cold to work out in. Love that. And then a big ass like fenced yard for the dogs,
Starting point is 00:02:00 which that's hard to find. It's hard to, cause I don't want some little yard that they can just just have enough room to you ever see when they give the most dangerous prisoners like yard time, and they just go out to this little dog run that pace for like an hour and they pace. It's like I don't want my dogs to have that life. I want them to like the here they have like a wilderness to explore basically like trees
Starting point is 00:02:23 and bushes and forests and neighbors and all kinds of shit to fuck with. So they're going to have a good time out there. But I like the place, the move. I have a lot of stuff, like a lot of stuff, just my gym alone weighs about 3000 pounds looking at it. And that was the last thing I showed them. They had seen the sea of boxes because I've been packing for weeks. Everything's boxed up, labeled really well, washer and dryer and just, I have two sectionals. Each one takes up a normal person's entire living room. And when they, they were like,
Starting point is 00:02:59 this is gonna be a lot, this is gonna be rough. And I was like, one more thing. And I like opened the blinds dramatically to reveal my entire gym. And what the bumper plates are stacked up waist high in two piles, two waist high piles of just bumper plates. There's three complete sets of dumbbells of different manufacturers. There's three barbells, a squat barbell, like one of those fancy ones with the handles and stuff. And then I have a very heavy elliptical, a nice one. I have a treadmill and a squat rack.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And oh, and then I have a functional, not a functional trainer, but a weight loaded multi thing that has pull downs and rows and stuff. This was not the team they sent. I didn't think they were going to get it done. The leader of the group, it's either emphysema or mesophilioma, something. I'm going to do my best to like mimic his voice. mimic his voice. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
Starting point is 00:04:17 oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, It's a constant audible wheeze when he's not talking to you. Like if you just like walk behind him while he's doing something. And he's holding his left ribs like he's been shot, like he's John Wayne. He just took one the whole day limping. And he's got to be that was that you know, let me tell you the whole crew. OK, so he's the leader of the pack. He's he's a black guy. He's about 50-55, but he looks rough and again
Starting point is 00:04:48 Queezing like he's dying and holding his left side. I'm like, all right. This is the leader of the group Where's the rest and then this old Mexican man walks in again Mexicans age. Well, this guy's looking 55 He goes all right bathroom bathroom And I'm like, yeah right here, buddy And he goes in the bathroom and I'm in the kitchen like, you know, getting the last final touches, like, like making my last cup of coffee that I'm going to have right back the coffee machine and the last coffee cup. And I hear
Starting point is 00:05:20 old Mexican man is vomiting violently in my guest bathroom. Fifty something out partying the night before work Let's hope that's what and he's a mover. I can't imagine a worse job to show up for hungover He's vomiting and it wasn't one of those where like you just get a little queasy and you get it out and you're like Man, I'm good to go now No He vomited for a solid two and a half three minutes and then washed up in there And then I didn't want to like shame him by being around when he came out
Starting point is 00:05:50 So I like made myself scarce. I don't know what he looked like when he came out and then there were two younger guys he's doing that like post-vomit thing where he's like Trying to swallow the residual phlegm that teary-eyed. Yeah, teary-eyed. So, so you got a real younger guys. Yeah, that's why I pull that. I need a mint. You want one too? Yeah, container. This water's over here. I kept him. I tried to keep him hydrated and then there's two younger guys who were one of them was either Dominican or I think it's Puerto Rican. And he was like a 19 year old baseball player. He's like, I'm wearing my Braves Jersey.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And he's like, you play baseball? I'm like, I'm 40. What the fuck are you talking about? Do I play baseball? Where would I play? But I don't say that because I just met him. And I'm like, nah, I don't play anymore. You used to play?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah. Yeah. I played a little AAA, you know. Oh, amazing, amazing. That is my dream. And he's like, start talking, he's like a quadruple A player. He just won some championship or something. Like he plays in some middling league, like he ain't, and he's like a big,
Starting point is 00:06:55 he's Puerto Rican, but he's as tall as I am. And he's built like a baseball player. He's not lanky, but he's long and lean and strong. And he's got the best attitude. He should have been the leader of the group. Smiling all day. So every time he saw the dog, he's long and lean and strong and he's got the best attitude. He should have been the leader of the group smiling all day so every time he saw the dog he's like oh that is a wonderful dog wonderful poochie and my dog's just like I want to kill you I want to kill you brown man just losing his shit he's like he loves me and like no stay back I can barely control the dog
Starting point is 00:07:23 like he's trying to get away. Was he getting it done though? He wasn't so friendly that it was like, all right, let's move the boxes. Oh, no, no, he was hustling. He was dripping with sweat all day and hustling and then the fourth guy looked like, you know, in Captain Phillips movie. What just happened? Can you still? Oh, my whole screen blinked.
Starting point is 00:07:40 All right, we can see you and we can hear you know, I'm back now. It was weird that everything went black. You know, the movie is a Captain Phillips where? screen blanked. All right. We can see and we can hear. No, I'm back now. It was weird that everything went black. You know, the movie is a Captain Phillips where I'm Tom Hanks is is. Yeah, he looked like I am the Captain now guy. But but when he at 25,
Starting point is 00:07:55 like a younger version of him, he looked a little Somalian. He did. And he smiled a lot, but I don't think he spoke any English. And so this was my dream team and it was ninety two degrees and fifty a lot, but I don't think he spoke any English. And so this was my dream team. And it was 92 degrees and 55% humidity. When I walked outside at 7 AM, like the sun had barely come up.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I immediately started sweating. I was like, Oh, it's so hot out here. Oh my God. They worked all day, 12 hours of loading and moving boxes. Did Vomit Dude ever hit his stride? No, he vomited all day. He vomited in my new house. He vomited in the new house! He christened it? He broke the seal over here. I hadn't even pissed in this house, and then Pablo had done vomited up lunch into it. It was I felt bad for him all day When you should have looked him up you should have like went to a gas station and bought one of those like Homeless beers like the tall boy super strong ones and be like there you go Guzzle this down and get to move it because we can't have you throwing up in between every third box See I'm good about I had be more like the pro baseball player I had a mini fridge completely stocked with like anything you'd want.
Starting point is 00:09:05 They were like fancy waters and like not Pedialyte but some sort of like special, like Super Gatorade stuff. And there was a beer in there. If anybody wanted the beer, they could have cracked that. There was a bankie in there. You could have had that if it was taking the edge off for him. But we finally got everything moved in. It was a nightmare for them.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I walked 15 miles yesterday and my feet are so bruised on the bottom because I wore my Air Force 1s. It was like the first pair of shoes I found was some old blue and white Air Force 1s. So you were stomping around. Dude, that's what my friend- You were stomping in your Air Force 1s, overseeing. It's so funny. You know what's funny about that? You're the second person-
Starting point is 00:09:40 Big boy. You're the second person in my life to mock my shoes in that very way. The last person was Blake in ninth grade. You know, it hurt my feelings just as much just then as it did in ninth grade when I walked in with those brand new white on white Air Forces. And Blake went, Oh, look, guys, Kyle got some Air Forces. You're going gonna stomp around Don't bone in here and you are forced and you like sang the song and I'm like
Starting point is 00:10:17 Big shout out to Blake Blake had Air Force's to his head like designer like fabric sewn into him because he had a black stepdad. He had What's been spinning in my head since Kyle started this story Kyle always gets deals Kyle's like masseuses. Yeah, you should do that too. What are they're like $12 I'm like, what do you fuck you find a masseuse for $12? He's like that's nothing my fucking trash guy works for a button and some pocket lint. He always gets these. I negotiate your movers. All right. Before I get to that, let me tell you about the first negotiation of yesterday, the trash pickup, because if you've ever moved houses and you have a significant amount of stuff,
Starting point is 00:10:57 there's this, uh, this part where you're like, I'm not keeping that. I'm not moving this to a third house. I haven't used you in four years. And you throw that thing away, that shirt, that hat. I'm never getting into a small again. It's not happening. You throw that away. Size 10 shoes. My feet are gonna shrink and you just throw all that stuff away. And I ended up with like eight big bags of garbage, an old grill, whatever garbage was in my dumpster from the week of just living. and maybe a
Starting point is 00:11:26 couple boxes, like pile of cardboard boxes that you could get in two double armfuls, like basically the back of a pickup truck full. And I hired these guys on Thumbtack to come pick up the garbage. $100, he said, $100 for the pickup. I'm like, all right, that's pretty fucking cheap. I'll do $100. And he shows up and it's two African guys and He's like he looks at my pile. He goes
Starting point is 00:11:48 200 You said 100 and now it's 200. I have to drive all day this one truck Not my problem, I don't I'm sure you're trying to explain the economics of trash pick up to me But it's not my problem. I said 100 or you go 100 you go leave because like these English isn't good enough to go. I did that I went 100 or I said 100 or you go And he was like The app take $20 and like
Starting point is 00:12:23 150 150 dollar. I'm like 150. He's like 150. He's like, he starts fucking working. I went inside, I'm like, pay him $150. I don't think he wants to talk to me anymore, though. That's exactly how you sell cars. Like the guy who comes in and closes is the asshole. He's like, look, you're gonna you're either gonna take the deal or you're not, sir. It doesn't matter to me. Strike while the iron's hot or come back next week when it's cold and we don't have those rebates." And you sell him the car and he doesn't like it, but he knows he's doing the right thing.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Then you come send some sweet motherfucker over to like, "'Oh, your new car's so pretty. I just saw it come out of the wash." Completely different attitude. So sent her in to do, "'Oh, your trash truck is wonderful. Here's $150.'" So negotiated him down, even though he tried to fuck me.
Starting point is 00:13:04 It was $150 love. It was a lot of shit. And then the pickup was going to be, I think it ended up being like $1,700. I think it was $1,700 for men, the biggest truck that you can get for moving for men, 12 hours and two trips. Took two trips back and forth, which is like two hours worth of just driving. How'd you even get the price before showing them the gym? It's like, you tell them the rooms and you give them like a description of what you have. And I've used that company before.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I usually use the same company. So you get a, I get a VIP rate because I've moved with them four times. Fair enough. Yeah. So it was pretty good. They got tips super well. I gave her, everybody got a hundred dollars a tip.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And other than the African guys who tried to swindle you, right? No, they got no tip. No, they get, well, they did, they did 15 minutes of work, but my mover guys, they all got a hundred dollar bill and like really, I bought them them good pizza not like little John's Papa John's and and Again, like my cooler is not some like Walmart cooler full of Powerade and water. There's some there's some they're like Oh, I don't even know what to take when they come to the cooler every time They're just looking at ten rows of Coke zero. I don't know what to take. There's so many. No, it's a plethora.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I have four different Zero Sugar beverages. I have Real Coke, I have Cherry Cokes, I have Powerade, I have Gatorade, I have Electrolyte Booster, I have Icelandic Ice Water, I have Fiji Water, I have everything. It's real nice. Like every time I look. Sounds like you'll say the Powerade is the booby prize.
Starting point is 00:14:44 That's like the door that you hope you don't pick. That that stuff you think it's gonna taste as good as Gatorade But it's a that's what the Comcast man reached for I like to I like to watch them and see what they're gonna pick Because you gotta be thinking about yourself some some kind of way to just grab a Fiji like you've been here 20 minutes You're gonna grab a $5 bottle of water, dude Especially if you're the Mexican guy who's so hungover he's vomiting every 40 minutes He could have whatever I need to feed you. Yeah I'd have smooched him on the lips if it had kept him working hard all day. It was a chore Did he work hard? They all worked hard. They worked their asses off even emphysema man carried his weight
Starting point is 00:15:20 I was guessing smiles did have to work so like He he never stopped. That's the important thing in moving is you don't stop, you don't stop and take breaks. You don't like cool off and sit down and have beers like we keep going continuously at the same rate. And they did. They did that all day. And they all had their different speeds that that young Puerto Rican guy, Jesus, he looked like he was going for a
Starting point is 00:15:44 ground ball every time he grabbed a couch cushion. But the emphysema man was, like I said, holding his rib like he was wounded limping down the hallway with boxes. It was scary. When I moved to Apex, Cisco hired the movies for me. These guys were pros. They had a tractor trailer, the whole thing. There were two people, just two, a white guy who was the driver and kind of operated the business and a black guy. The black guy was 55 and he looked 25. I could not believe his age when they told it to me. And the white guy, they joked that this is like standard in the industry.
Starting point is 00:16:17 He carried every flippin' pillow and lampshade and salt shaker. Meanwhile, the 55 year old is single-handedly strapping a refrigerator to his back and walking it up the stairs. I was so impressed by this guy. And he wasn't like super strong looking. He almost mocked people who look strong. He's like, yeah, they look strong. These are functional muscles.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And it's like, whatever you say, refrigerator man. I don't know. Like. That's awesome. But there is a mini fridge over there that's still in my house. So if you could tune that out. You see that CRT TV from 1979?
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, it cost $8,000 back then. It weighs a metric ton. Grab it. Careful with that. Refrigerator thing's not a joke or an exaggeration. You drop it, it explodes and toxic gathers. They had a special backpack to put a refrigerator in. And he just leaned forward and walked it up the stairs.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I remember when they had the kid do that in Little Giants. Oh really? Vaguely, vaguely? Yeah, that kid with the flat top who was supposed to be the toughen for the bad guy team carried a whole fridge into a moving truck. And his dad was like, that's how you do it spike. And I'm like, wow, this, this guy's, this kid's name is spike and he can carry a fridge.
Starting point is 00:17:29 That kid's tough. I still remember. What was the little league baseball movie? Little angels in the outfield. Nah, nah, where the group of kids playing like ball sandlot, you know, the redheaded kid in the sandlot rides. He was also in the green mile, I think. Or not the green mile. He was in the... What is it? He was Percy, right? No, it's... The big green. The big green. That's it. Yeah. He came out for, I think it was the Savannah Bananas
Starting point is 00:17:59 a while back. And they're like... And I don't remember what his name in the movie was, but it was something like the greaser or something and Coming to the plate number 69 the greaser And he comes out like looking like babe Ruth like like shoulders back. He's not an athlete never was Points like babe Ruth and calls his shot points to the left field wall strikes out points to the left field wall, strikes out. That's cool, he's having fun with it. I'm still here for it. The crowd loved it.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It was great. That's where a lot of guys who aren't good enough to play like, you know, professional baseball, but they're close. They're going to leagues like that. Those fun, like silly Savannah Banana type things and they're selling out. Like you can't get tickets. I looked at it when I was like, hey, let's go down next weekend. like silly Savannah banana type things and they're selling out. Like you can't get tickets. I looked at it when I was like, hey, let's go down next weekend.
Starting point is 00:18:47 The Savannah bananas. Fucking the seasons paid. That's it. They sold out for the season. Dude, like it's great. They made more teams. So I mean, you surely know this, but the Savannah bananas are basically the Harlem Globetrotters of baseball. And at first they had a couple of teams. There was like a funny team that would play on stilts and do like trick
Starting point is 00:19:09 plays where four pitchers line up, but only one has the ball and they'd all throw simultaneously and the batter's got to figure it out. Like nonsense like that. And then they had a competitive team that was there to win the league. No one liked that one. Everyone was very disappointed when they signed up for the Savannah Bahamas and found out it wasn't the globe Trotters version of it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So they just made like more banana teams. Now there's like a whole league, I think, of Savannah banana like teams so that they didn't just play the Washington generals again and again. Yeah, I don't follow it super well, but I have seen other teams that must be in that wacky league or in a different league being wacky. I saw the one that's popular on Reddit where they're playing nighttime baseball and everything's glow in the dark. The baseball,
Starting point is 00:19:54 everything's glow in the dark and they sprinkle the entire field. And the field's not particularly lit. Well, that's what they the field's dark. Yeah, no lights nighttime game and on the ground of the field, they sprinkle these glow in the dark. I don't know what they are, but like it looks like they took a ton of glow in the dark confetti and put it everywhere where it's not the ground's not saturated with glow in the dark, but there's enough of it where you wouldn't fall. And you can see where the lay of the land is really well. And from the viewer's standpoint, you can it's beautiful because it's all green, you know, it's going to dark like it's great purple And and the players are glow-in-the-dark the ball when it gets hit
Starting point is 00:20:29 That's that's pretty when they hit that glow-in-the-dark ball and it just makes a streak out to the I would love to attend That game as a player though. I Throw and catch like a swimmer I can totally see catching a pop fly to the nose. The mechanics of throwing and punching are kind of similar in some ways. You're trying to create that like chain of motion that starts with your bottom, you know, at the bottom of your feet and ends at the tip of your fingers.
Starting point is 00:21:00 It's planting feet and rotating and twisting and just chaining everything together. You're pushing off a foot, you're flexing your glutes, you're rotating your hips, you're tightening or loosening your obliques and your core. Your core is getting wound and unwound in a way that you store energy in it. And then what happens between your shoulder and the tip of your fingers is so complicated I can't explain it. There's so much to it, depending on your blood, your emotion.
Starting point is 00:21:28 You just gotta feel it. There's a golfing parallel, another sport I don't know anything about, but there's another one that like it goes from the tips of your toes to your fingertips before it's finished. Yeah, and there's people that are naturals and they just do it. With golf, like I start thinking,
Starting point is 00:21:43 I've noticed all my best golf shots and I'm not good at golf, but like if I start thinking at all while I'm swinging, while I'm in the backswing, I just beef it up off the start. Like, but if I can stay totally thoughtless, you can kind of just get away. We're talking about athletic stuff, Hutch, where I don't know if you're a golf guy or a baseball guy or what your sport of choice, what was it? It was baseball growing up. Baseball. Okay. Yeah. Kyle's too. Did you ever
Starting point is 00:22:11 get that? Or I don't know if you were a pitcher like Kyle, but like, you know, the mechanics of an athletic movement really well. But if you start to think about what you're doing in the moment of doing it, you fuck it up. It's like, I have to be remembered to keep my elbow high I have to keep my shoulder back and then it's like oh fuck well I thought about what I was doing and I ruined it I need to be like Zen and that way I could do it yeah that's my entire athletic career I remember my fellas how's it going how's it going I hadn't seen you in a minute yeah it's been a minute Yeah, been a minute. How's a we damn about it from time to time? How's the getting jacked progress the lifting and I'm just doing there
Starting point is 00:22:52 No, I'm not doing any lifting I'm just like walking like you're just trying to get in like a good amount of like walking every day But yeah, all right, as long as you're doing something Yeah, but you're like you're tall and so that door is always open you can get big Like it does you think tall make it easier to get big? I thought it made it harder to at least look big. Makes it harder to look big. It makes it harder to look big.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But the end goal of being big, very tall is better than being like, you'd rather like look lean at like above six foot than be like one of those guys who I don't want to call them out. But one of those fitness guys that I always thought was a mammoth of a man I like saw his stats and he was like five foot four and it almost made yeah and it almost made me be like so I never could ever look like that guy ever who's that one youtuber that's like dr. Mike is that his name he's fucking jacked to the tits but he's like the ball guy Mike, is that his name? He's fucking jacked to the tits, but he's like five foot four
Starting point is 00:23:46 or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, also a short man. Franco Colombo was Arnold Schwarzenegger's training partner. I think I got that name right. And Arnold would talk about how their mechanics differed. He was talking about how strong Franco was. He was like, he would do 600 on the bench.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I never once lifted that much. He's like his mechanics, he talked about how his squat mechanics are perfect because of his short little legs, how his back is just straight up. And then he's like, I have to lean forward, I'm six one, six one and a half. And then explain like, he's like, so to compensate for that.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And then he breaks down this formula of leg torture that he did to make his legs big enough for his frame. Those Arnold interviews are great. But yeah, I'm surprised you haven't gotten on the testosterone, Hutch. Like it's almost time, right? I think we talked about it last time. You made me want to do steroids for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Like I thought about it. You should. There's no doubt. He is such a juice bully. And after seeing his pictures, it's like, ah, he's probably right. I'm going to get juiced up as soon as I'm, you know, hopefully I have a few kids, but as soon as I don't care if I'm fertile anymore, I'm going to get gross with it. Does it fuck with your spermies when you do the TRT?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah. It makes you not fertile anymore. So if you're trying to have kids, not going to get the TRT. Unreliable prophylactic if that interests you. That's what my doctor said. That's almost verbatim what my doctor said. He said, this is not a vasectomy, but you're not going to get any pregnant most likely while you're on these doses. So it's like, oh, beautiful. Not going to take any chances
Starting point is 00:25:14 or anything, but still beautiful nonetheless. Yeah, the only, the downsides for me, when you abuse steroids, obviously there's heart problems and you get that, uh, you know, murdering your whole family issue that some people seem to have. But, uh, but you know, this, the hair loss and it's the infertility. And if you're vain enough to care how big your testicles are, they will shrink on you a little bit. Like, ah, what happened to the boys? Do you think that, um, juiced up for the Superman thing he put on, I think like 45 pounds of muscle in three months. Is that that's not possible
Starting point is 00:25:49 Who did who the David corn sweat the guy who plays Superman in the no. No, he's not doing any steroids I wouldn't think at all No, no, you know it once you he didn't look that big to me like like Derek for more plates more dates like does that kind of as a video as video content the sort of Natty or not like Judging their physiques and and also based on the time of transformation I didn't think he I need to see before and afters of him to note to say but just seeing him in the movie in The clips I've seen he doesn't look do you see him without clothes on I've only seen him in the Superman No, you only see him in that like loose fitting outfit that they I like that outfit
Starting point is 00:26:27 But it doesn't show his definition or anything like that. He posted jim selfies And his biceps were fucking enormous and he said he gained 45 40 to 45 pounds of muscle I think in three three months Yeah, like I don't know what the truth is and then they all deny steroids Yeah, I was just chicken broccoli and rice. You can't go by that what they say So like the steroids if he's on it depends what you're on But but when you are on a cycle your your your muscles are storing more water and they are getting bigger And not just more muscle fiber, but like more puffed up as well but 45
Starting point is 00:27:05 pounds in three months is crazy I yeah I dexascan'd myself though all the way through so I could see literally how much lean tissue I was adding versus like fat content they it's kind of like an x-ray but it's it's for fat and they take bones and do you get a doctor do you have to go to like a private company to do this private company private company to do this? Private company, private company. It's like a thousand dollars for four scans or something like that, or maybe a thousand for five scans. And then I was going back every month and getting a new scan because I wanted to be
Starting point is 00:27:35 able to see like month but to month the literal improvement I was making because you really can't tell in the mirror for the first three months or so. You're like, I don't know, I just look puffier. But like on the scans, you're like, oh my God, what happened? Is that going to show his picture? Yeah, look at the picture there. Because he's, I mean, that looks pretty fucking jacked. Okay, if this is a three to four month transformation, then yes, he's juiced. If that one of the top genetics just allow them to make 15 years of progress in three months. Yeah, what are you crazy? I think it is not trying hard. It's just weightlifting up there. Noob games.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I didn't really look at the before picture until just now. Good golly. This guy. But hang on. He wasn't like me, but he was definitely slender. He's got defined pecs and and like traps and good biceps and forearms in the little picture And we don't know how long is we know that he started this workout program And he's claiming this three-month 45 pound thing, but I don't know when that picture in the little bubble was taken Maybe that was five years ago. You know I don't know what he looked like right before he started his Transformation did you see twisters? I? Look like right before he started his transformation. Did you see twisters? I?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Don't know that is it's the sequel to the 90s sensation Twister. I didn't watch it Has that guy that Tom Cruise really likes who's a new guy that's like the new Tom Cruise I know you're talking about his name Glenn something Glenn something he was in Top Gun and But uh but yeah, I know corn sweat was in that movie and that was right before he started training for Superman He wasn't skinny like skinny skinny, but he was definitely not jacked like that Instagram picture. Yeah, and like That amount of muscle after a few months I'm just going off what you said like if it was a three four month Transition from that top right to what he is in that picture. Just using that as baseline truth. That's enhanced. Like that's not, there's no way to do that naturally. It just doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:29:30 There's no way to do that in three months on juice. Like it takes more than three months to get it from the bubble. Yeah. See that that's why the before picture is so important. Cause he looked, he was already very, not very lean, but quite lean. He was already at like 14% body fat in that little bubble. Cause he's got, like I said, he's got defined pecs. Like he looks pretty lean. He says he's eating 6,000 calories a day.
Starting point is 00:29:52 That's so much food if it's clean. Like that's so many cups of rice. Dude, that's a lot of food if it's dirty. Ask me how I know. Those are rookie numbers. That's one bullet trail mix. Yeah. Dude, I've done that in cashews at night absentmindedly.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Like, that's fucking nothing. Yeah. Yeah, I've been eating nuts. It's like a midnight snack, but come to find out they're pretty calorically dense. Is that what you say? Yeah, they're the most calorically dense thing in the world. It's almost as though like we were supposed to be finding like six of these at a time and being like
Starting point is 00:30:27 These giant containers that are salted. I've done that before I'm doing intermittent fasting So I'm like not starting to eat until like three or four and so like okay I'll eat like very little or like, you know less calories than I normally do and then I go to bed I'm like, I'm just gonna eat two enormous handfuls of almonds and then And then I go to bed, I'm like, I'm just gonna eat two enormous handfuls of almonds. And then I'm like, wait, why am I gaining weight? What's going on? Oh, fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:50 So you're still on the weight loss regimen? Because you've never seemed like someone who, like you've never been fat. Well, so back in the respawn days, I was 6'3", 135. And then I got up to 210 during like the pandemic or whatever. And then I kept that weight. I'm trying to get back down to like 190 or 185 or whatever. And I'm down to like 193, but it all went to my belly. Like I stand up and I look like, it's like the Grinch.
Starting point is 00:31:12 It's like slim frame and I'm like smuggling a watermelon in my shirt kind of situation. Yeah, nobody wants Grinch belly. That's not a good look. It's very unattractive. I don't like it. That big pear shape. Well, that's good then. It seems like youractive. I don't like it. That big pear shape. Well that's good then.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It seems like you're right at your goals then, so congrats. That's awesome. I'll be back in the one someday. Did you guys watch Superman? Did you already talk about it? We talked about it a little bit, so we haven't seen it, but I was interested in that it was becoming political, that the right was not wanting to go. I saw that maybe, I don't know who decides that all the Jews aren't going to watch it,
Starting point is 00:31:52 but I saw a big movement of that online that maybe Israelis are going to boycott the film. And we talked about the political elements, particularly when the group of brown people who were being massacred by the more advanced lighter-skinned army raised the Superman flag and Superman shows up and I was like that's what Superman would do if Superman were here and there was a real Superman if he would he would look at CNN and he would say what the fuck he would fly over there no spoilers but maybe he doesn't show up in that scene. Oh, maybe there's a compromise of him on an island somewhere.
Starting point is 00:32:31 There's a lot, yeah. No, there was a lot of discourse about the Israel stuff because the pro-Palestinian, like leftist group online, they immediately assumed that it's like two fictional countries of Boravia and Yarhanpur, which are canon to DC comics. Like they were first introduced in like 1950. When Gunn finished the script, the first draft of Superman, I think it was in the beginning of 2023, so it was before October 7th, he's on the record saying he's not referring to any particular conflict and yet People are thinking it's still like wink wink nudge nudge Like it could be there's some visual similarities between like the great March of Return protests in
Starting point is 00:33:16 2018 or 19 and like what he did in the film So like I guess I guess you could make an argument there But I didn't feel like it was very heavy-handed there there There are some like political stuff in the movie like very little though It's like not and it's not really explicitly partisan like yeah, that's that was my takeaway from it Yeah, I I don't know. I haven't seen it yet. I'll probably watch it when it comes out I haven't been to the theaters in in years. I I a lot of the movie reviewers I watch maybe I'm tainted by their bad experiences, but they talk about just going to the movies and they're bringing screaming kids and people
Starting point is 00:33:49 bringing babies and everybody, people on their phones. And to me in the movies, like I want dead silence. Like why would you, we pay $20 to be here. What are you doing on your phone? I got $45 for the popcorn over here. You also do, you sometimes you'll like bring burritos in there. Well, that's neither here nor there. I think it's there. Because if we go to see Superman and I'm not in your party and you pull out a double steak queso burrito from Chipotle, I'm no longer enjoying my popcorn.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I'm like, this piece of shit thinks you're- I'll break it in half, come on, you can half half. Oh, we're in the mix then, okay, I'm fine with that. All right, you can have all the queso, it's on. You can have half. Oh, we're in the mix then. Okay. I'm fine. All right So it's messy. You're the reason why movies like theaters are really struggling right now there you're you're only getting like Spider-man no way home and like doom that are making like big big bucks but the theaters are just like really struggling especially after the pandemic people got used to streaming stuff and
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's just like more comfortable to be at home. And if you can buy a big TV and a decent sound system, you get like a pretty comparable experience. It's not gonna be at IMAX or whatever, but now like all these theaters are installing reclining chairs and like really comfortable setups to try to get people to come back. But you know, Hollywood's really in a lot of trouble right now, I think.
Starting point is 00:35:02 They tried that thing where they deliver you food, which I thought was really neat at first, the first time I went to one of those theaters, where it was like, what do you mean? I can like hit this button and order chicken wings in a theater, like this rules. But then after that novelty wears off, it's like, you know, I could eat chicken wings at home.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And instead of paying $20 for a Sprite Zero that's probably like watered down, I could just go to my mini fridge and get it. Like there really is very little reason to go back to the theater unless it's like a Lord of the Rings style epic where you get a tangible benefit from like, I want to see it in this media. It's gotta be epic.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Christopher Nolan movie, a Tarantino movie. If they shoot it on 70 millimeter, we've got, there aren't a ton of 70 millimeter projectors in the country, but we have one in Buford, Georgia just outside Atlanta. So Whenever that I remember I went to the road the the road show for hateful eight and I went and I saw interstellar there twice And it's different. It's it's it's bizarre. It's it's so much bigger and the colors are different I really enjoyed those experiences But didn't I haven't been in here too like doing like all the doing movies for sure are a lot better on a big screen I still haven't seen the second one
Starting point is 00:36:13 I liked the first the factually know the first dune I saw was the one from the 70s or early 80s that Kyle told me To watch when in Kyle's defense He said watch it because this is the most ridiculous, silly nonsense ever. And it was. And then I watched the first Dune, where Dune fans were like, don't be poisons by the 1981 version. It's epic, it's cool now. And that one was pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And I still haven't seen Dune 2. A couple of my friends who were stoked on Dune 1 were disappointed in Dune 2, and that kind of slowed my roll. Yeah. I didn't hear anything but the opposite. Because the first Dune, he has to set up this really complex universe like Dune is like just as complex as Game of Thrones in terms of all the competing interests and like the Lands Raid and the Spicing
Starting point is 00:36:55 Guild and there's just so many different moving parts and so he spent like the first hour and a half of that movie just kind of setting everything up but the second movie is like like a war epic it's like an epic war film. And there's tons of action and yeah, it's like a really visceral experience. I'll tell you why I did. So I love the first one. I have some interest in the novels.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I've read a couple of them. I know how they end. And I even like the old one. But in the second movie, I found Zendaya to be insufferable. Even on the movie poster, she's like in front of Paul. Like, and I'm not one of those people who like they're the subreddits where they take pictures of a guy and the girl and they're like,
Starting point is 00:37:32 oh, but the the loser lean into her and she's got the they like analyze like who's leaning which way and who's like their arm where. But Zendaya is like walking in front of Paul and it's like, he's a God or he's about to be like, why wouldn't he be? And then there's the part at the end, the whole movie she's insufferable, like pouty faced and angry. And the editing seemed haphazard.
Starting point is 00:37:57 It seemed like we were missing. It's already a long movie, but I felt like it should have been longer. It needed to be. The mother after she drinks the the blue goo It's like the next time we see her she's in full like priestess mode We didn't get to see her sort of make that transition and accept that and how that we didn't get to see Paul be like Oh shit mom, you're some sort of weird face tattoo priestess now
Starting point is 00:38:20 Like I would have liked to have been there when she's getting all them face tattoos. That was wild We missed that the end then at one more thing that goo though The whole point of that goo though is like as soon as she drinks it. She is now basically She shares a collective consciousness with all the previous Reverend mothers and so it immediately changes them Oh, I know what you is kind of jarring. I just I just felt like Time moved forward too It wasn't like that It wasn't we jumped forward and she had already went to the south and they'd already gotten all the tribes people together for the big meeting
Starting point is 00:38:52 Where everybody's voting on whether Paul's gonna lead them or whatever that meeting was exactly and then at the very end Once we win the big battle and Paul has his cool-ass knife fight What does he say make your your blade be breaking chip or something. May thy knife chip and shatter, yeah. Yeah, it's cool as shit. Love that. Then he fucking kills that that mongoloid with the knife and then they're like, all right, for peace in the galaxy, you must marry this hot ass white chick and Zendaya is all like, Mmm. Mmm. Don't marry the hot ass white chick. I don't want peace in the galaxy.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And it's like, if my girlfriend needed to go marry the prince of the galaxy to make galactic peace, it's been good while it lasted, but peace in the galaxy sounds like it's much more important than our simple little love affair here. My love, goodbye! That was a big narrative change that Denis Villeneuve did from the books because in the book she's way more
Starting point is 00:39:50 subservient she treats him like a god and she just she helps raise his children and stuff and and so he changed that for the Movie to sort of because the whole point of the movie is not to celebrate Paul as this traditional hero It's he's kind of like an anti-hero. Like the author of the Dune books wrote him because he wanted to warn people against like putting your faith in charismatic leaders like JFK and Lenin and Mao. Like he was a libertarian, he hated, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:16 communist and like liberals just the same. Warhammer steals a lot from Dune, yeah. No, but he made her, he changed her character because he wanted to use her to sort of like Center the film morally so she's the one that's noticing that he is ascending in this way To become like a god to them and she doesn't like that. So like that's I don't think he's shown I don't think he's shown any signs of like, ooh, you should have done that. That's morally ambiguous
Starting point is 00:40:42 I feel like he's been like straight down the line and just a God Prince. Like spoilers for the books and how this all ends, but Paul decides that the best way to unite the galaxy and create peace, he's like, everyone needs one thing to go against. And I can't lead the galaxy to peace, but I can drive it to peace. If I become the problem, if I become so awful that the entire galaxy has to unite against me, then wait, the entire galaxy
Starting point is 00:41:17 is united? Well, we just won. So that's where this is going. That and he turns into a giant worm man. So it's actually Paul's kid, Lito too. His kid is the one that becomes like, he becomes a worm and then rules like a tyrant for 3000 years. And then the people like revolt against him and then he reveals at the end like it was my plan the entire time so that you, you know, you never like trust a leader ever again or something. Yeah. And that will ensure lasting peace of people who feel tricked and that no leader can be believed. Yeah. And that's what he was really going for. That's retarded, dude. Like, I haven't watched these movies or read these books, but if that's the way it ends, where he's like,
Starting point is 00:41:58 actually, I'm in a position of supreme power, but I need to be a shithead so that people temporarily cast aside their differences to fight me and then immediately go back to tribal In fighting wasn't the writer into Islam too because there's there's lots of notes of that Yeah, so the Fremen are it mixes Is it Sunni Islam and Zen Buddhism? So like it's like a fictional, you know It's like it's like imagining human beings 10,000 years in the future. Yeah, and so it's not like the same religion So it's like a fusion of the two but interestingly enough
Starting point is 00:42:28 There are there are actual space Jews and like you like Judaism is the only religion that survived Jihad and like 10,000 years and nobody knows where the space Jews are are there space Palestinians? Space Palestinians? I don't think so, no. Not anymore. And they wouldn't hit, like the space Jews were like, we're getting the fuck out of here. And so they just like bounced and nobody knows where they are. But the space Jews, did they change from regular Jews into a new kind of Jew? It's like literally the only religion that survives all the human evolution that happens
Starting point is 00:43:01 over the next thousands of years. Yeah. It's great, man. I fucking love Yeah. It's dude is great, man. I fucking love it. It's it's yeah, it's great. It sounds cool. I like those epics. And so I need to watch the second one. It's foundational for science fiction and for big stories like that. And lots of like lots of other sci fi
Starting point is 00:43:20 things have taken from it. Even the way they travel with those big space folding ships that are so large, they're almost incomprehensible in some of those matte paintings. I like all that stuff. I like the idea of there being those future religions. I think they call their war on Dune a jihad even. Yeah, but literally I got mad by what was in there.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Maybe I'm fragile. You thought she didn't have enough facial features? Like she was always too surly? She was so pouty and surly and angry all the time. It's like she's always on her period and mad because there aren't tampons in the desert or something. I don't know what, oh, I guess because that suit's cycling it back and making her drink it or something.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I was gonna say, yeah, I think the still suit would probably absorb her menstruation. Yeah, it would. That's horrid. And so she's jealous that the king of the universe isn't interested in her? It's not even that, he still loves her, but it's like a marriage of peace,
Starting point is 00:44:16 sort of like in medieval times. Well, he's gotta do it then, you know? That's the way it goes. So Paul's mom is planting the seeds, she's spreading sort of like prophecy about about her son among the Fremen people in an effort to like manipulate them into thinking that he's a messiah and Paul sees her doing this and he doesn't like it or whatever but then he ends up kind of doing that
Starting point is 00:44:40 anyways because he felt like he had no choice. He like had to take the blue goo to beat the Harkonnen. But here's the thing. Yeah. So believing that, believing in the greater good and the ends justifying the means fails because you're not, you're just a man. The first to come up with these ideas are just men. Okay. They can't think that, but Paul isn't a man anymore. He's like he's borderline demigod So so I I'm like, oh greater good. Is it demigod Paul? Okay Let's do it then lie to the Fremen. They need to be deceived so that we can rally them together greater good It just when when you work into the story that he's a demigod and that she can see the fucking future and the past It's like let's just do what they say God and that she can see the fucking future and the past it's like let's just do what they say
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, it's supposed to be really morally confusing like it kind of contradicts itself by the end of the by the end of the whole thing because because because him his son becoming the worm and then ultimately like Doing what he did and getting the humans to stop fighting like to cooperate and stop trusting leaders or whatever it like justifies all the Like bad stuff that he did so there's no like real clear Moral answer I think like I think the author was basically Just cautioning against things just broadly, but not really I mean it yeah It is very confusing sure and it's and it's an older. It's written quite a while ago. I liked it I like parts of it but it felt like it had been edited by the studio
Starting point is 00:46:06 to get that runtime and that if there were a director's cut, it would be at least 40 minutes longer and it would benefit from those 40 minutes. That's how it felt after watching it. And that turned me off because I'm here to watch a three hour movie. You can't get it done. Aren't you doing a trilogy of three hour movies?
Starting point is 00:46:23 You still can't get it done? It's like maybe you should have done it. Oh, There's only three. I think they're doing three movies. They're starting to do production on the third one now. And that'll probably be it. I think that one combines Messiah and Children of Dune. So there's like Messiah is the second book and then Children of Dune is the third. So I think they're doing like both of those. I got to catch up on it. Fuck you. I've seen the first one. I've seen the first I've seen more of that series than I have Terminator. That's disgusting. That's disgusting. I've watched more documentaries about Terminator 2 than you've watched Terminator movies. It's upsetting. It lets me down. It makes me think less of you as a man. I'm not him. The fact that Taylor wasn't exposed to Terminator growing up is a form of child abuse.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It's like, what were you doing? I'll never forgive them. I was in the woods a lot. Literally, I was going to say smash the rocks together by yourself. And you're like, yeah. I was damming up creeks and building a lot of forts in the woods. Terminator 2 was the first R- rated film that my parents let me watch. And I think I was nine.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Might have been mine too. I was five though. And I had already seen Terminator 1 at home. They would like kick me out of the room and like bloody scenes would come on. And I'd seen the trailers. It was fucking hype as shit with like guns and roses playing in the background.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And it was just like an event. And then the day comes along and my mom's like, I just don't feel comfortable with this And I ran to my room like crying and then my dad comes in and he goes I convinced her you can go like my dad Fucking came through in the clutch Big shout out to Hutch's dad. That was a cool thing. See ever did for me in my life for sure My house for movies. Like, I watched everything growing up. My grandma in particular,
Starting point is 00:48:08 we would watch R-rated movies all the time. She loved Arnold Schwarzenegger, she loved Sigourney Weaver, so Aliens and Terminator, we watched a ton of times. It's been a huge Trump week, and I can't have a hot cheer without talking about Trump and everything that's going on. First, I wanna ask you, you're still in LA or thereabouts. Yeah, I've been down here for like a bit. Yeah, so what was the what were the so-called? riots and
Starting point is 00:48:34 Demonstrations like like like were you near any that did you see any that firsthand? Um So there was a no Kings protest which was organized by I can't remember some some big dem group or something like that and it was explicitly organized as or advertised as nonviolent peaceful and That was the big protest that happened but there were kind of impromptu protests that had popped up over the city in response to ice and Those people were not like explicitly nonviolent And so they were more kind of aggro and they were like trying to block freeways. And then that started happening in like other cities. But for the no kings protests, I went to that.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It was the biggest protest I've ever been to. I think the final number was that there was something like 30,000 people that showed up that day. And when you walk through the main protest area, it's like good vibes. People are it's like funny signs It's like a culture at protests. It's like who can have the funniest sign. There's like music There's you know, Millennials older Millennials like standing on the corner handing out Gatorade. It's all very kind of wholesome But then when you went down the street, there was a federal building where they were detaining migrants I think and that's where the Marines were and So that's where you had people in camouflage holding, it looked like M16, I'm not like a gun guy,
Starting point is 00:49:49 but like a big rifle. That spot attracted a more kind of young, more kind of explicitly like leftist communist crowd. And those people for sure, I'm not going to say all of them, but a lot of them are kind of like looking for a fight you know like they're looking to kind of pop things off and we stayed at that spot for like two hours and it was kind of like escalating and we kind of knew I was like something's gonna happen here and then we waited around it was too hot finally I left and then like 20 minutes later lo and behold there was a confrontation like just missed it just missed it but apparently that crowd had started people in that crowd had thrown like bottles and
Starting point is 00:50:26 Maybe bricks or something like that But but for the most part like the the proper no Kings protest It was super chill like their cops were right there. You could have walked up to the cops and said how are you doing? And they would there was like no kind of tension or anything like that But then these outside groups these younger kind of radical extremists show up, which really pisses me off. It's like, do that at your own protests. Like don't go to a protest that's explicitly advertised as nonviolent and then start doing stupid shit. But yeah, that was my experience. Like that the proper protest was totally like safe. You could have gone there with your family. No one, there was no fear of tear gas or anything.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Were you a tiny bit disappointed that you by 20 minutes missed seeing it pop off? Kind of. A little bit. Yeah, of course, right? Because I knew, because I knew it was a totally different vibe. Like they were very angry. A lot of them were like, you can just tell like the clothes they wear, the kind of signs they're holding. It's just a very- Yeah. The foreign flags, not a good look good look yeah did you have a funny sign no I didn't have a sign I just showed up with a couple buddies of mine and that was
Starting point is 00:51:30 okay yeah yeah that was it it was and then after that it was chill but like there was it was obvious that there was no need for the military like the cops were more than capable of dealing with that crowd. The 2020 riots were way worse than this. Like not just what like a thousand times worse. Yeah, we got that here. I think that was in most major cities. 2020 BLM ones. Yeah. I can't think. Where are you out of St. Louis? Oh, okay. Yeah. And so it like all the violence those days in 2020 only made our horrible city look marginally worse than normal. But like if that were to happen in like Pittsburgh or something, I bet people there would notice bigger.
Starting point is 00:52:10 It's just because like our city is a ghost town already. How far are you from Ferguson? I have it in my head you're close ish. At least half an hour. Like that's close. Yeah, I'm a decent bit from Ferguson. My I've brought it up before, but the 2014 Ferguson protests, I was cracking up because one of my good buddies, shout out to Carter, he worked in Ferguson when
Starting point is 00:52:32 that was all teeing off. And it was a shit dead end job that he hated. And he was like my one joy after driving 40 minutes into Ferguson to work at this like real estate office is that I get to go get a nice McDonald's lunch every day. That's the only thing getting me through it and these pieces of shit burned down my McDonald's and so now I'm still driving there but I see all my lunch options burned out as I'm pulling up or I'm like I guess I could okay McDonald is burned, but I could do little Caesar. Oh, man. They tagged little Caesar's up. Big Wendy's has you fooled at a thing. BLM did that. He was, he was so upset that made me laugh so much.
Starting point is 00:53:15 He's doing much better. It's, it's been a wild week in Trump news. So I think he went to the FIFA cup, uh, the presenting of the award and he was, uh, he was up in the FIFA Cup, the presenting of the award, and he was up in the box seats with Melania. She was looking very nice in a white dress. And media noted that his ankles were very swollen. And then later on, he was down on the pitch.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And there was the presentation of the trophy and all these medals. They look like the sort of Olympic gold medals, like that style of medal. He pocketed somebody's medal and like, he just like tucked it into his shirt jacket, his suit jacket and kept it seemingly. And this next thing I'm going to say, if I'm wrong, then I just got deceived by the internet. But everything that I can find suggests that Donald Trump kept the FIFA trophy and he has it in the Oval Office. And he is not giving it back.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And the trophy that the winning team has right now is a replica. He pulled this is that Putin move where you take Robert Kraft Super Bowl ring. You're like, let me try that on And Rob crafts like yeah, could I could I have that back and look have what back have what back your passport? No, you're took your passport did they no no one took my passport Good wouldn't want to take something like that if you could I mean like will to power like hey, man He's strong-arm robbed the fucking FIFA Cup like It's not even an American teams award It would be one thing if like the Washington Wizards won some award like his local home his local team Yeah, who won like what team won? It's it's in European like Italy or something wins. I don't know
Starting point is 00:55:02 I have that in my head did they win? I don't care about the sport. I don't know. I have that in my head. Did they win? I don't care about the sport. I don't know. Well, I don't know. European soccer football team because and so then he's also down there. It's time to like give them the trophy and I think that he was supposed to just hand it to like the bald guy who worked there, whatever his position is. I don't fucking know president of the FIFA or something, But now he's like, he won't let it go. He won't physically release it.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And so he walks it and he presents it to the team. And then they're like, all right, Mr. Trump, right this way off the stage. And he's like, no, no, this is a moment. I can feel the energy. And so everybody's jumping up and down and cheering and raising their trophy. And Donald's right there.
Starting point is 00:55:43 He is in the official photograph of it that FIFA took. Like, like if you go back into FIFA records, he's in there. He wedged himself in. He's, he's there laughing, smiling, and they're all kind of like shooting him side eyes, like what's Donald doing here? He hasn't, he couldn't kick a ball if his life depended on it. Not with those legs. No, not with that swelling.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I'm just, I'm just watching the clip for the first time. It is so funny seeing everyone like, we fought for this so hard. Yeah. And Trump's like, yeah, we win. We win. Do a politician clap. Now, listen, if he had commandeered a real trophy, something people care about, like the Stanley Cup. It would be an ordeal and that would be despicable, unforgivable. Something that we have to get. What if Donald Trump had the Stanley Cup and he was not releasing it? We'd have to send that long-haired blonde guy in there to root it out with the white gloves, the guy who's the keeper of the cup. And you know what? The keepers of the cup wouldn't have even let him do that. It would have been like you have to win it to lift it sir. No. You have to lift it. On a serious note though I feel like it speaks to his savvy in terms of the way that he is going after sports. Like connecting
Starting point is 00:56:56 with that side of American culture I think is politically very savvy. Oh big time. And I think like I hope to see like future Democratic presidents do the same. Like he is really changing a lot of the paradigm in terms of politics and media. And if the Democrats want to keep up with that, they should take, I mean, obviously don't emulate him completely, but like borrow some of the things that he's doing because he has just always done such a good job of centering himself. We had a guest a couple of weeks ago who was at, I think it was the Daytona 500 or whatever NASCAR race that Trump went to. And he was like, it was electric.
Starting point is 00:57:31 They said, Donald Trump is making a flyover. And like Guns N' Roses was playing or ACDC was playing. And here he came, fucking Air Force One. And it's like, that was good. It was like the air force one was amazing and they all cheered as it went by, but Thunderstruck was playing while the beast was working as the pace car, the beast being the presidential limousine. Yeah. And he's telling the stories so well.
Starting point is 00:57:56 If you see killed it. As the beast is leading all the race, I'm not a Trump guy and I'm still like, okay, tip of the hat. That's cool. That's kind of sick. Trump doing that on a NASCAR event is like the fucking Pope, like going through the Rome, you know, like that and like that's like. My people. Yeah. That's why the FIFA thing doesn't make sense. Like, like he's winning a lot more hearts and minds
Starting point is 00:58:30 with the Daytona show. Whereas like I would be blown away if even a singular American saw him like celebrating with the FIFA team and was like, whoa, he's a soccer guy. All right, I'm in. Like, no, it's just we, I don't think Europeans can fully understand how little we care about,
Starting point is 00:58:48 we're not memeing about soccer because we're bad at it. We just, we don't watch it here. We don't care. You might not know, he got booed heavily at that event. It seemed like there were no fans, no Trump fans at the soccer event. That's where you go.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Because that's in Europe, right? If you want more, look, the NASCAR thing works if you want to pump up the base. But if you want to grab some new people, you don't go to a soccer pitch. You know, I didn't think of that, but you're a thousand percent right. I've been fosting that there aren't Democrats on Fox News and I bet some of them would be invited. Yeah, if one in a hundred out there liked him.
Starting point is 00:59:22 God, this place had like 80,000 fucking people in it Oh was this not in Europe? No, no, no So he's we've got the World Cup next year or whenever it is maybe the year after next And he's in Los Angeles, right? Yeah, and he's been pumping that big time like he's very proud that he makes it sound like he has the World Cup And he has the Olympics He makes it almost seem like he swung those things and made them happen at times.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Him doing the UFC event at the White House too, I think is also really smart for his brand too. Did you say UFC? I think him doing that, I think it's cringe obviously, but to his base, that's gonna be epic for them, right? So let me talk about that a little bit. So Donald Trump asked Dana White if they could do a UFC fight on the lawn of the White House. It's been confirmed multiple times now, Woody, it is the lawn of the White House.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Dana White seemingly breaking his long-term statement of no outside venues, don't like the weather inconsistencies, indoor stadiums only, seemingly breaking that for the magic of the East Lawn of the White House. And I'm pumped for it. Dana's saying it's going to be the greatest card we've ever put on. I am going to make sure of it. And I'm like, you lie a lot, but you do have a year of lead time so John Jones immediately unretires Conor McGregor immediately joins the testing pool I
Starting point is 01:00:51 believe neither of them but carry I believe neither of them but but if hey if one of them showed up it would be colossal they're gonna make John Jones fight that guy he's terrified of as well like they're not that he's gonna be the champion if he's still the champion. He likely will be, but not, definitely will be. The problem, optics-wise, is that July 4th, obviously celebrating our independence from England, and Tom Aspinall, an Englishman, fighting John Jones, an American, it would look bad if we lost, and it would be 50-50 at best. Like, I think John Jones, an American, it would look bad if we lost and it would be 50 50 at best like I think John Jones next year's John Jones loses like he's thirty
Starting point is 01:01:31 nine or something at next year. Yeah, that's fair. But that was spectacle. But that would be a spectacle. I have high hopes for it because Donald Trump's not running it. Dana White's running Dana White knows how to put on a show. We've seen Donald Trump's not running it. Dana White's running it. Dana White knows how to put it on a show. We've seen Donald Trump's show. It was that rickety ass army parade that they put on
Starting point is 01:01:52 that was a humiliating embarrassment on a global scale. That shit was so gay. Did you guys know that thousands of people showed up, but they fucked up their funneling system? They had this mile long zigzag barricade that people had to go through. So even though it like not not a lot of people showed up regardless, but like it looked kind of bad, because just there weren't a lot of people in the
Starting point is 01:02:16 bleachers. But there were 1000s of people that were walking this like maze. He thought they attendants was going to be 200,000 and it was 30,000. Then 30,000. He's lucky it was 30,000 because those contingents, those groups of soldiers, they were marching by with like 34 guys. We talked about this, I won't dwell on it, Hutch. If you're going to do a military parade, you got to go North Korea, Russia, China style. It's got to be big. It's's gotta be so many dudes locked in, exactly stepping at the same time,
Starting point is 01:02:48 large contingents, big groups, something epic and cool, not, oh, here's 40 guys dressed like Yankee Doodle Thandie. Not even a parade. Look, don't try to beat them at their own game. If you look at Chinese and Russian, especially Soviet, and North Korean military parades, it's very clear that this is what these guys do for a living. There are thousands of them acting in unison in a way that looks, it's performative. It's an art that they're doing. They're not
Starting point is 01:03:16 training fucking shooting targets and blowing up stuff and flying airplanes. This is the marching band. If you can't beat that, so instead do a demonstration of technology. Like, take us out to the fucking Badlands and blow some shit up. And coming up next, have each plane do a flyby and talk about its technology. Have them blowing shit up. Remember when Tony Stark was like, opens his arms and the world explodes behind him and he's branding his new missile for the Army. It should have been like that.
Starting point is 01:03:43 But Donald Trump in those shoes I like where you're headed with this we could have the Air Force go by and anti Air Force Artillery take him out. Yeah, I kind of like a Navy game Beat we'll lose a lot of air force always wins You know who fucking crushes at the marching is like, have you ever seen that the Indian military square off against the Pakistani military? They do. They are stomping their legs up like above their head.
Starting point is 01:04:14 They're fucking throwing their hands. It's crazy. Yeah. They they lot of like physical physicality to their march. They get like right up in front of each other. And then they both have like a high step flexibility battle where it's like they don't even bring their legs. It's like a 1980s break dancing like competition. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they like they're all bluster and you know that bravada and then they just close the gate and they go about their day. Yeah. Which is probably a good thing. It's like they both get to feel proud. They both get to feel like, all right, we're not pussing out. We're not backing off. Like good thing. It's like they both get to feel proud. They both get to feel like, all right,
Starting point is 01:04:45 we're not pussing out, we're not backing off. Like we're holding our own. And they both get to like go to bed with pride and they don't violate the actual border. Or I guess we almost saw them violate the border, right? There was that huge thing for a week where it's like India and Pakistan are about to pop off for reals this time. That was his first Nobel Prize
Starting point is 01:05:02 when he saw that potential nuclear war. They rescinded that one. Was it even like a real, it seems like the way people are talking about it, but you can't know. Pakistan thought it was enough to nominate the man for a Nobel Peace Prize. They did rescind it as Woody likes to point out
Starting point is 01:05:17 for some reason after Trump bombed Iran without provocation, no big deal, no big deal. Pakistan and India, they shouldn't be able to nominate people. Come on, let's be real. Only Israel. What about Israel? They're the experts on peace.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I mean, if you're pointing to me and saying, world expert on peace, I say Bibi Netanyahu, don't ban the channel. And so, I say yes, he should be allowed to hand them out. And then apparently Donald somehow stopped that war in Africa. I get confused about those wars in Africa because they're all like smaller groups within smaller countries that have been fighting over not like the rubble for in their constant ever. And then they keep mastering each other.
Starting point is 01:05:56 And there's always machetes and sex crimes. It's just horrific to look at. And then the deaths are always just preposterous. But Donald somehow got those African leaders together and put us. He he's taking credit for he's like, I've slept three wars this month. What do you want from me? What more do you want from me? I mean, we're working on a fourth. Can you solve the wars?
Starting point is 01:06:15 You know, you have more direct control over and that impact us. Yeah, maybe instead of like Kenya and fucking Rody or Rwanda. Yeah, Rwanda in Kenya. I am livid about the Epstein thing. I think that I have lots of theories, in my own head about what happened and what's happening. Going from there really was never a substantial list of like people of bad people's name,
Starting point is 01:06:42 or at least if there was the Israelis have it and it wasn't kept around on a nightstand table at Jeffrey Epstein's house. And so therefore we don't have it. But Donald Trump was lying and saying that the Democrats have it and I'm going to release it as a campaign thing. That's devil's advocate. That's if you're if you love this case scenario, best case scenario that he was lying during the campaign.
Starting point is 01:07:03 I'm going to show you everything. They're all going down. This list, these dirty child molesters, I'm gonna show you the nitty gritty. And then he gets in there and they're like, yeah, there is no list. Like we've just got a lot of like dirty videos and abuse evidence.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Maybe that happened. But it seems very likely that he was implicated and they're like, sir, you don't want us to show people this, do you? I mean, that's you. That's clearly you. Maybe that happened too. But that aside, if he hadn't done that, and I hate that, it does seem like
Starting point is 01:07:35 he's getting a lot of wins lately. Like those, I don't know enough about international affairs to know if he really solved an African war or the Pakistani Indian war, but he's waving the victory flag and nobody's really disputing him outside of our media. And then I heard yesterday putting sugar back in Coca-Cola. My god. You know who says that's not true? Coca-Cola. Well they're liars. They're liars. They're from Atlanta. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump never talked to Coca-Cola. Trump is like, Coca-Cola is putting real sugar back in. It's better.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Trust me. You're going to love it. I wouldn't be surprised. I've said this before. If I catch a fish and I say it was two feet long, you and your head are thinking, well, it's probably at least 18 inches, right? You know what he says, Trump never went fishing. Trump says he caught a two foot fish.
Starting point is 01:08:30 That story was completely bullshit from the very beginning that he's like, I called Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom was like, he didn't actually call me. This conversation he describing is just untrue. There was no call. And I wouldn't be surprised. Coca-Cola, who's now like, we have wholesome products and they're FDA compliant. That's their statement on it. And there's no change to the formula. That is a funny, like a hilarious low stakes pivot though, to be like, Mr. President, people are furious that you're not releasing the pedophile documents that, you know, now you're saying don't exist or are fraudulent, but you
Starting point is 01:09:12 kind of ran on releasing. And he's like, don't worry about it. People won't even remember after this next announcement of Coca Cola having real sugar there. So many people on the right and the left are rightfully roasting this and being like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, oh, so we are kind of a country controlled by criminal blackmailed pedophiles and sex criminals. And it implicates so many people that you can't... Oh, well, the operation was obviously Mossad in Israel. And so it seems like they have the cards in the blackmail. in Israel. And so it seems like they have the cards and the blackmail, but it's like, imagine if they have all the cards and everything, as many people theorize, all the experts,
Starting point is 01:09:52 that it's a massade operation. Think of how many people it must compromise if Trump is willing to be like, including him potentially, to willing to be like, oh, I'm going to sell the midterms down the river. I'm going to sell the party down the river any winning chance, because the alternative of releasing this would destroy us. What's the topic? Did you see Newsom roast Trump on the Coca-Cola thing? No, I didn't really follow the Coke thing. I just thought Trump tweets out. He got Coca-Cola to change the formula to use real cane sugar. And Gavin Newsom replies, I'm totally distracted from the Epstein files now.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Oh yeah. Which was on money. What is the actual evidence that this was like a Mossad operation? Is there any- It was ran by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. No, no, but like what are, like, are there documents or what?
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah, he was convicted of having ties to foreign intelligence operations in the early 2000s. And Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, a key integral double agent spy who was involved in the creation of Israel. And so- There's no paper trail for Epstein's wealth. Epstein's wealth and it's enormous.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Apparently he owned the largest private residence in New York City at one point. They obviously owned his own island, all these jets and stuff. Where'd the money come from? No one knows. He claimed he's like a money manager or a money market expert. And it's just like, that's what people say when they don't know what to say.
Starting point is 01:11:13 So, so number one, it's like, this is, I feel like this is one of the most legendary Streisand effects of all time. And that, you know, this could have ended last week, you know, there, there was something that came up about Epstein and, you know, it would have probably just died down on like a day or two, but the media asked him a question and then he, or the media asked Pam Bondi a question and then he jumped in and then that got people to like, that was weird. And then he did a Friday night post on truth social where he was like,
Starting point is 01:11:38 why is everyone talking about this? And people are like, what the fuck? And then it seems like every step of the way. And then there's also these outside things too like the FBI stopped their investigation into Prince is it Andrew? Yeah, that's the one yep, so now He's just free to come into the United States without any scrutiny or whatever and then also they fired Jim Comey's daughter who was a prosecutor who prosecuted Epstein and glane Maxwell and P. Diddy. Like she just got fired two days ago. And then, so I don't know if you guys saw. Okay, well hang on.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Now that you mention it, I didn't know it was P. Diddy as well. That may be why she got fired, for losing the P. Diddy case. Because. That's plausible, yeah. I mean, I'm just saying, like, it looks like when you put it, I'm not saying it's necessarily sinister. I'm just saying. Oh, it looks bad. Optically, it's like, whoa. I think it's sinister. If it weren't the same person from the Diddy trial that had been fired,
Starting point is 01:12:27 just that had done just Lane and Epstein, I'd have said it's clearly connected. But because of the Diddy failure too, it's like that's a fireable offense. I bet Marcia Clark lost her job when she lost OJ. Like wait a month maybe before you do this. Like don't have a they don't care about appearances like the rest of all the other See that's see that's amateur politics coming It makes sense to me and you to wait a month because yeah, but to him he's like no no no band-aid All of it right now and then flood and obfuscate with with nonsense. Coca-Cola sugar's in it now Um, tell them, uh, let's let's go see the doctor
Starting point is 01:13:02 They've been asking about these bruises on my hand and my swollen ankles Let's get that out there. Let's make that one of the news It'll be there'll be another thing today and tomorrow and the next day that are all like weird little news stories Oh, we're gonna do a UFC fight on the lawn of the White House Oh, I'm paving over the Rose Garden goes haha concrete's nice. Yeah, I'm putting up a the biggest flagpole in DC Look at it. Look at the working men. Yeah. No.C. Look at it, look at these hardworking men. Yeah. No, no, I don't think it's largely worth,
Starting point is 01:13:29 like, there's just no way to hide something this big, like without people getting mad. A couple things we left out. One, Alexander Acosta, right? Alexander Acosta is the guy that gave the sweetheart deal to Epstein, where he was convicted of being Not just a pedophile but running a giant pedophile ring and he got basically like minimum security with labor release
Starting point is 01:13:54 So we only had to spend nights in the prison for 18 months for being this kind of pedophile That is a sweetheart deal. Yeah, and it was given by Alexander Acosta who after got gave the sweetheart deal to got a job with Trump Became Trump's labor secretary Trump gave this guy a cabinet level position seemingly as payment for Making this Epstein Blackmailing him wanted him in position and think about this like Who would logically?
Starting point is 01:14:28 wanted him in position. And think about this, like, who would logically, who more than anyone does not want this released in full? The people who hold the blackmail. They don't want this coming out. They want it to remain a powerful threat hanging over the head of people that they control. And so there would be an incentive for people to be like, oh, Donald, there's some troublesome stuff in here. You don't want to release it, though, do you? It would hurt a lot of your enemies. It would hurt you, too. Oh, we could, you know, there's a lot of things about you in here, Donnie. And then the Trump story changing is the thing I didn't want to leave out either. Right. At first, there was no list. There is nothing here. We released it already.
Starting point is 01:14:55 There's no more. And then it's well, OK, there's a lot more. But it was written by Barack Obama and Comey and every other boogie man that I've ever told. They all talk shit about. And it's like, oh, really? Barack Obama and Comey and every other boogeyman that I've ever told, you know, I'll talk shit about. And it's like, oh really? Barack Obama wrote the Epstein files and now I'm not supposed to trust them?
Starting point is 01:15:11 Fuck you, you lying cunt shit. Like you couldn't be less true. No one believes these transparent lies and we'll see if it works. No one thinks Trump supporters are stupider than Trump. Because he will never, you can tell who's not responsible for it by who, his administration and the powerful like grifters around it, who they throw out there as like potential culprits. They'll be like, Oh, it's,
Starting point is 01:15:35 it's probably the mullahs and Iran. It's like, all right, check them off the list. It's clearly not them. It's probably Obama and Hillary Clinton. It's like, okay, doubt it. If it was them, you wouldn't have floated that. Yeah, it's just, it's fucking nonsense. And I hope this follows them. I think it's, one thing is like really obvious, which is that I don't think Trump fully appreciated just how salient the Epstein story is with MAGA. Like this is a, I mean, it's something that sort of like punctures through into the mainstream.
Starting point is 01:16:03 So a lot of like normies that aren't really super partisan even they're interested in Epstein stuff But for like a lot of the MAGA stuff I mean there you know This is already a group of people that I would say are like pretty conspiratorial about a lot of things But the Epstein thing has been really top of mind relevant for them for years and some of that is like Pizzagate QAnon adjacent stuff that sort of like bled into the party a little bit But but he you know the second he cut off that media person and got snip snippy with them It was like why are you even asking me this and I was like ooh?
Starting point is 01:16:35 Wait look bad He doesn't he doesn't know like he has no idea just how much these people talk about Epstein And it's I think it's pretty clear that that's the case because he just keeps like he keeps posting about it he Keeps saying shit. He's not well informed. He's not well informed. He watches Fox News. He watches CNN He watches mainstream media, but he's not on reddit. He's not on Twitter at least if he's on Twitter He's not like scrolling through the comments He doesn't know just how much people have been the comments. He doesn't know just how much people have been
Starting point is 01:17:09 memeing about when they get their comeuppance, how much people have been theorizing about who's going to get it and how they're going to get it and what we're going to do to them when they're exposed and how financial world economies, financial systems, political dynasties be damned. We want the truth. And that resonated with everyone, Like you said, very much with like, MAGA, like hardcore MAGA guys whose trailers are covered with flags, all the way to like cat boys on the internet.
Starting point is 01:17:33 They're like, yeah, let's find out. The far left cares about this shit too. Like most people care. Like you can, it's hilarious seeing online so many like of the clearly taking money, Grifter accounts being like, oh, but it's time we move past this whole Epstein thing. Tim, we move past it.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Tim Pull famously paid off by the Russians to make propaganda is now on Trump's side. Like, I'm not going to talk about the Epstein files anymore, but Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, like there's a handful of right wing influencers trying to help him bury it. Ben Shapiro is a big time trying to bury a guy right now. Wonder where his allegiance is lying. And he's also done this enormous favor to Democrats because like Democrats are, it's
Starting point is 01:18:13 like a fucking mess right now. There's like a, it's like a war for leadership of the party. And you know, there's this like, it's not like, it's like a cold war, not really like a hot war, but there's like a power play going on right now. Like AOC and Bernie are doing the no oligarch thing and they're trying to like set her up for 2028 maybe. And then you got the moderates over here that are trying to like temper the excesses of the left. And it's really hard to kind of get the Democratic party on the same page right now. People have lost faith in Schumer and his ability to lead. And then this thing comes along and now all of them are like,
Starting point is 01:18:45 okay, we're just gonna fucking hammer this guy on this thing. So like Newsom's tweeting about it. Ro Khanna is adding amendments to bills to force the Republicans to like block, you know, a provision that would like ask the administration to release the list. And so even Pelosi came out today finally and she said like they should release the files.
Starting point is 01:19:02 And she's really like calculated Machiavellian and thoughtful about stuff. So the fact that she's doing that, she obviously sees that this is an enormous, you know, like Shane Gillis is making jokes about it at the SB awards and then it's going super viral on social media the next day. Like this is a story I think that transcends politics. And so like the Democrats are going to be able to kind of like, it's their job right now to just keep it in the news for as long as they possibly can. And so he didn't tell any Epstein jokes. They deleted themselves.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Yeah. That was so good. He was like, we should probably move on. I can't even replicate the way that he delivered that joke, but he does it so well. Yeah. And people don't know the joke. He was like, there was supposed to be an Epstein joke right here, but, uh, maybe it got to lead. Maybe it deleted itself. I don't know. I'll probably move on from that as a country. Dude, some of his other jokes though were brutal. Holy shit. The Caitlin Clark joke. Did you guys see that one? I saw that one. Waffle House one. Oh my God. The one that made me laugh the most. And I only saw like a few clips on Twitter. I didn't see the whole monologue but his co-host on the Matt and Shane secret podcast is Matt McCusker and he's a
Starting point is 01:20:10 his wife is black and so at one point he was like and big shout out to like Brittany McCusker four time and WNBA All-Star let's give it up for her let's give it and it just like the camera moved her and everyone was clapping and he goes goes, just kidding. That's my friend, Matt's wife. None of you know anything about the WNBA. Showing some black woman laughing on the camera, tricking them into applauding and then being like, aha, you've been hoodwinked. I was. He pisses me off, like Shane Gillis, because he's just one of those guys that's just so effortlessly funny.
Starting point is 01:20:50 It's like Will Ferrell is another one. There's some people out there that like, Sark, working with him, every time they fucking open their mouth, it seems like they just effortlessly crack these jokes that just destroy me every time. Funny, uncomfortable situations, and he seems comfortable in them. effortlessly like crack these jokes that just he creates to write me every time funny uncomfortable Situations and he seems comfortable in them. He's like this is exactly what I was going for and
Starting point is 01:21:11 It's a gift. Yeah, I thought his delivery was bad at the espies thought it was Poorly rehearsed. It definitely wasn't his material and there's too much apology for it from what? No, it wasn't that I'm not like this one might fail. I don't't know about this one it's like come on own it man well that's the I disagree there I think that's part of the bit his sort of fear that his bit will fail it's salient it's it's built into it and it's like an it's like a mechanism that prevents him from ever truly bombing they disagree that's true yeah but but he has delivery wasn't smooth he was he was stuttering uh he stuttered over a couple punch lines. Like I liked his material. I thought it was funny. Um, when he did the thing where he's, you, I, as I walked in the room, I heard Taylor
Starting point is 01:21:53 talking about it where they, he was like four time MVP or whatever. Like that was funny. Like, like all his bits were funny. They even did a skit where, uh, with the, with the tush push for the Eagles, his Eagles rant was good go birds But when it got to some of the bits he's it was it was poorly delivered. It was funny though I only saw the highlights so I probably saw his best stuff. I didn't watch it entirely Yeah, it's got like a ten minute. There's like a ten minute clip on YouTube. That's Compiles everything he had a big opening monologue and a few other little things It was cool seeing him host there because I know he's a huge fan of the Eagles
Starting point is 01:22:26 That was part of the bit and they won team of the year of all nice I guess and so he got to present that to him so speaking of the Epstein thing Wall Street Journal just reported a story that apparently Trump was like he called them and was threatening to sue them to make Sure that it didn't get out, but I don't know if you guys want to, well, I can't put it in the chat for some reason. Oh, there it is. Um, there's one particular part of this story that I think is pretty amazing. I'll read it. It isn't clear how the letter with Trump's signature was prepared inside the outline of the naked woman was a type written note styled as an imaginary conversation between Trump and Ed
Starting point is 01:23:07 Steen written in the third person. So this was a birthday. This was a birthday card that Trump sent to Epstein in like 2005 or something like that. Okay. There must be more to life than having everything. Donald. Yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is. Jeffrey. Nor will I, since I also know what it is. Donald. We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Jeffrey, yes we do come to think of it. Donald, Enigma's never aged. Have you noticed that? Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you. Trump, a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day be another wonderful secret. God damn.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Zach, can you show this tweet? Put it on the screen. Talk about like kindling for a fire. I mean, if it weren't for the pedophile thing that we know about, I think they were gay. I think that they were gay lovers. Like that's what this- I've had that actually, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:57 This feels more like if you didn't know about the island and the children and everything and all of that and didn't know who Epstein was, you'd be like, oh shit shit is this Donald's boyfriend? There's another interesting moment too because it feels like a lot of Trump supporters found a way to like just avoid the well-documented, they don't know like best friendship that they had like Epstein was on a recording with a journalist back in 2018 saying just flat flat out saying we were best friends for years.
Starting point is 01:24:25 But look where that's reported at. I know that because I'm a Reddit hound. I'm just on their way too much and I read everything that there is to read on the politics and all the other subreddits about this stuff. I stay well informed. The average MAGA person has no idea because if you watch Fox News, they don't talk about it. They don't show that big collage of photographs. The other day we were swapping baby pics in our little group chat. I found this old coffee mug that's got me when I was, I don't know, eight months old on it's real cute. And then Chiz, shits in that photo.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Yeah. Thank you. I had, you just jealous that had a hair I had. It was like, it was crazy. They didn't know where my mom ended in where I began coming out But but she's replied with a picture of absorbed her pubic hairs on the way. Yes, that's what this is Lodge of like baby pictures of him and They have one like,
Starting point is 01:25:25 it reminded me of the Donald Trump Epstein collage. There is a collage of photos of them, you know, different suits, different locations, daytime, nighttime, with family and friends, with party girls, in a casino at a benefit. And it's just like, clearly years are changing because Donald Trump's got the dark eyebrows in some of them
Starting point is 01:25:52 He's got those weird eyebrows and his hair's a little brown. He's lost those with age. He had sort of a golden Burnished hair color at one point. It was a little dark that The photos are clearly going back for decades and decades. Can we see your baby picture is that private? it's decades and decades. Can we see your baby picture? Is that private? It's. Next time I get up to pee, I'll grab the coffee cup. I'll do that. Oh, I've got it. I have a link in the chat for that. I didn't want to show it
Starting point is 01:26:13 without your. You look so handsome. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. So anyway, we're going to see baby Kyle in a minute. Yeah. And look at this little fella. Straight straight.
Starting point is 01:26:24 You do like that looks nothing like you. It looks nothing like him at all. I was replaced at some point. And I don't know how many chromosomes did you have in this picture? Yeah, most of them most of them. Dude, I was fresh out the oven here. Like I'm more than you. It's the right answer.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Did you guys know that allegedly? Trump and Epstein's friendship ended because I feel like Woody would be the only one who's maybe heard this. I bet. There's speculation that Epstein hit on Ivanka and like that was the thing that like fractured their. I heard it was over a real estate deal that Epstein bought something that Trump wanted to buy and that was the end of their friendship. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Either of those seem pretty believable. I could see the real estate thing, but I could also see Epstein probably feels invincible. He's got an intelligence agency behind him with dirt on everyone, and so maybe he does get a little fresh, tries something with Ivanka, and then Trump's no fan. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:20 I don't think she's his style. See, I do believe that he unalived himself for the record. No, that's there's no way you think that he had he hanged himself with tear away clothes under constant surveillance. I mean, I don't know the logistics of like how to do that in a jail cell. But just imagine you're someone who is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. You're super well connected. You've lived this life of just unadulterated
Starting point is 01:27:51 debauchery and degeneracy for fucking decades and then you wake up one day and you're in a fucking prison cell for the rest of your Life so like I don't know for me like the incentive was certainly there. I would he kill himself There was no first time he's been arrested for this. He beat the charges already Was he already guilty at that point? wasn't he was he had already been found guilty and they gave him a sweetheart deal. And the prosecutor said to leave this guy alone, he's with foreign intelligence. No, but when he unalived himself, had he not been convicted or was he going to try?
Starting point is 01:28:15 I'm pretty sure he had not been tried. They had been tried. He was being held. There was no trial. Well, maybe he knew they had him dead to fucking right. On what? It was a totally fictitious thing totally There was no aisles. They didn't have a rape island and on some fucking private thing with a creepy temple
Starting point is 01:28:31 And so why would he come speaking of which we got to get galane Maxwell out of prison She's been locked up unjustly for this long for doing nothing It is creepy that Trump always wishes her well Trump doesn't have anything negative to say about Galen Maxwell. Trump is all like, she's in prison for her participation in this pedophile ring. And Trump is like, I wish her the best, you know, I hope this works out well. Wish her well that he was considering maybe reducing her sentence. I don't know if you saw that.
Starting point is 01:28:59 I wouldn't be surprised. I haven't heard anyone powerful in politics, say anything negative about Galen Maxwell, which leads me to believe she's got dirt on a lot of people Yeah, I'm usually not a big conspiracy guy Like I fucking violently resist them because I think like America's got did we just become way too conspiratorial? Especially it's funny. You mentioned that 9-11 after this. I'm like, I don't fuck. Yes Sweet sneak peek.. Go ahead. Yeah. Next week is conspiracy theory week. We've got a special conspiracy theory guest. Yeah. I'm told he's brought,
Starting point is 01:29:32 he's bringing like a PowerPoint presentation. I have no idea what the topic at hand is and, uh, Taylor myself and Woody are going to prepare our own presentations. Um, different. Yeah, we should probably collaborate a little so we don't do the same conspiracy. This is the way you'll do mine. One of mine, I guarantee, I don't want to say the other, but one is that Lyme disease is man-made. It was a way to test a bioweapon. I think that's a fun one. I need to be more due diligence, but I am conspiracy, conspiracy minded in some ways. Like, there's some stuff that's just
Starting point is 01:30:06 so silly, that it seems almost put there to discount real ones where it's like birds aren't real. The earth is flat. Dinosaurs are totally fake and made up and the fossils could only be 5000 years old. But then there's other things where it's like, oh yeah, a bunch of powerful people with 5,000 years old. But then there's other things where it's like, Oh yeah, a bunch of powerful people with a unified interest acted behind closed doors to achieve those ends. And it's like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I believe in insider trading. And so I believe the the Epstein thing to me exists in a really neat place on the spectrum of
Starting point is 01:30:40 conspiracies, right? On the far side, you've got the comet pizza insanity with the basement where there isn't even a basement and whatever, whatever, no proof. Cuckoos believe that. And then on the other side of like very believable is like the US perhaps installed new leaders in Iran and Israel sank one of our ships, right?
Starting point is 01:31:00 Things that are literally true. That you would just choose to believe or not true because you know, you don't buy anything that has to do with a conspiracy. The Epstein thing to me is so much closer to those conspiracies that turned out to be act conspiracy theory. Doesn't mean dumb ass theory. It means people are conspiring to do something together. And Epstein to me exists on that actually true conspiracy side of the spectrum and not the wackadoo, unproven stuff. I see like the Epstein conspiracy is like in line with like the building seven conspiracy where it's like clearly things are not as they seem here and the explanation we're being given is
Starting point is 01:31:44 ridiculous. But more so, more so than that. Look, I have a hard time with the sea of evidence. And like we just showed that tweet earlier, but it was text that's supposedly written on a birthday card or a card of some kind. Where's the card at? Where's the card at?
Starting point is 01:32:03 If somebody were saying that about any of you, I'd be saying, where's the fucking card at? You can't say that about my friend without showing me the card. I want a hand. I want some. Is there a Trump thumbprint on it? I want any hand writing expert before I'm going to believe that about my buddy. Bullshit. But because it's Trump, I'm like, oh, text on a screen. And I see a lot of that. There's those. There are the accusers who accuse Trump and they've been, there are these videos of them testifying or giving testimony and their faces are blurred.
Starting point is 01:32:30 And they describe very graphically about being sexually assaulted, raped by Trump and Epstein and other men, um, on video. Um, but I'm like, I don't understand like what this is. I don't know what I'm looking at. There was a one, I think that particularly there, there was a woman who came forward and she was a Jane Doe and she brought, I think a lawsuit shortly after Trump was inaugurated or maybe even before
Starting point is 01:32:55 he was inaugurated for the first time. And she formally accused him and an affidavit of sexually assaulting her with Jeffrey Epstein when she was 13 years old. And then she secured a high profile lawyer. And then it was like just about to start to go to trial. And she ended up withdrawing the complaint because of security. Well, there's the other girl who was 12 and she describes like her and her 13 year old friend Trump like had them pretend like they were maids and come into
Starting point is 01:33:25 his hotel room and then he had them sex each other up and then he had them do stuff to him. Let me add to this. Yeah. So they were role playing as maids and one was Latina and one was white. And the white one had to clean the room while the Latina girl blew him and he threatened to call immigration as a way to get her to blow him.
Starting point is 01:33:50 This is according to the story. I watched the video today, I'm so fresh on it. And the video of the girl talking, not the scene. So anyway, Latina girl's blowing him and he's berating her at her terrible BJ skills. And then he has the white girl come over to demonstrate to the other girl how a man is supposed to be blown.
Starting point is 01:34:09 That's how it went down. And then at the end he was like, you both could have done better. Yeah, yeah. That's not funny Woody, those are children. Oh. That's true. That's not funny, they're children.
Starting point is 01:34:20 It is kind of funny. Just quickly turn that off. Hey, that's no laughing matter. That's no laughing matter. But Trump has my BJ standards. I'm not happy to get one at all. What? No, I know that now I know you're fibbing. Because you guys are going to those trips, getting motel.
Starting point is 01:34:40 I'm not saying it's uncommon, just that I never berate her for performance. But when I hear that, I think that is horrific. I'm not saying it's uncommon, just that I never berate her. But when I hear that, I think that is horrific. Anyone who did that should be killed and it is such a damning charge that hearsay doesn't work. I can't believe her because I don't know who that person is. It's just person number one says this about Donald Trump. She says person number two was there. We don't know where person number two is. And it's like, that's not enough information for me if we're going to like do something about this. Because the something that we would do is getting him, you know?
Starting point is 01:35:16 That's why the Epstein files are so important if they're not just held in a base in Mossad somewhere. Like, because that seemingly would expose all the real deal shit of like, okay, it's confirmed now. We know, you know, these 70 people in our federal government are all compromised by horrible things they've done, probably lock them up forever, throw away the key. But we don't know. I feel like Pam Bondi is more to blame for all this than Trump is.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Like she's the reason why it even came up as a question in the first place. Like she's the one that made this this big spectacle when she. But only because of his poor leadership. If he had come in and he'd said, look, this Epstein thing, it's going to be a whole bunch of nothing. So make sure that whatever you show is enough to satisfy everyone, but not so much that we drag a lot of people through hell over some unsubstantiated, half-assed evidence. Do you understand? He could have said that. That everything I just said would
Starting point is 01:36:16 be legal for him to say to her, and she would have known what to do. Instead, he was, it's seemingly he gave her free rein. And so she's got that infamous now interview where she's like, the list is on my desk. And then the photo op outside the White House where her and maybe three or four people who work for her have had those folders, those three ring binders. Those were a bunch of right wing grifters. Those were people like libs of kick-pops. Exactly. People who work for her. Yeah. Yeah, people who are taking money. And these are, isn't it crazy, all those people that were holding those binders doing their fucking gay ass photo shoot are the same people now saying stuff like, guys, there's really bigger fish to fry here. There's a lot that really needs to be handled
Starting point is 01:37:00 before we, I don't think we should waste a single iota of brain power analyzing this and we should certainly stop talking about it because what DC Drano saying about it because he was he was like the main guy I have most of those fucking idiots muted or blocked because they are do we have just timeline right I feel like we're acting like it started with Trump saying why are we still talking about that no no I'm they asked the question for a reason it was already in the news, right? He just blew it up by mishandling it. Well, they had said there wasn't gonna be
Starting point is 01:37:31 a report released basically. That's it. And then there was the blowup, and then they asked him at a, what's it called? It's the- Cabinet meeting. It was a cabinet meeting. Cabinet meeting at the big, long press table,
Starting point is 01:37:43 or cabinet table. He's got the whole cabinet there. Obviously, Pam Bondi is to his right and Marco's there and JD Vance is sitting directly across from him on the other side of the table. I watched this live and they asked that question and his reaction was it is his reaction. It almost makes me believe his innocence because his re I'm serious like cuz it's thing because if he were calculated if he was like I'm implicated and I'm hiding evidence his reaction would have been are we still talking about this
Starting point is 01:38:15 Jeffrey Epstein guy this creep is that what we're talking about like he seemed genuinely befuddled like he had no idea it would be a big deal that anyone would care about it. And I don't think he's a good actor at all. I saw it. It seems genuine. I saw through different lens. I saw the guy who's used to being an opinion maker, tried to set opinions. When Trump says we should rename it the Gulf of America, we should invade Greenland, we should go to war with Canada or wherever the fuck he says. People follow.
Starting point is 01:38:49 He can say ridiculous insane shit and stupid people just buy it hook line and sinker. So when he's like, why are we still talking about this? That guy will never die. Let's move on. He thought his influential voice would work on this topic too. That's what I that's how I read the situation I think you're right. I told my stream like that day I was like, I think he's discovering that this story is bigger than him
Starting point is 01:39:12 He's not used to the story being bigger than him. Like he just like I said, like I could still see it being both But but I agree with all your takes You're hitting on something that I think is accurate too Cuz he was just so organically incredulous in that moment Like it wasn't it didn't look like he was flustered. It looked like he was legitimately annoyed Yeah, like I don't know if I think that he is like knowingly Sealing his own involvement in the files like maybe it's possible that like he's afraid of something that like maybe he's concerned That there's something about him
Starting point is 01:39:42 But like it honestly wouldn't shock me if he's not personally looked through these files, you know And look another devil's I'd be shocked if he had yeah another authored some of them Or if he was even able to look through them because again, it's not our government in charge of these Yeah, another devil's advocate thing like like it could be that he has in the in those files There's dirt on people in international people and Mossad again, like they want to keep holding those keys. I could see Bibi Netanyahu being like, hey, we spent $180 billion of mostly your money securing that file.
Starting point is 01:40:17 We use that to make sure that the Saudis don't speak up too loudly when we bomb Iran. We use that money to make sure that Pakistan doesn't send aid to Iran in their times of need. We use that money to make sure that China doesn't send as much oil as they would like to Iran. This is keeping the world glued together. You take these, you remove these leashes and collars off of these countries, these organizations worldwide,
Starting point is 01:40:46 we're going to be in for hell. You think it's a bunch of Chinese guys on Epstein's Island? They're blackmailing Chinese guys. I'm describing like a geopolitical leash that, that the Israelis are using to kind of keep things glued together. Again, playing the devil's app for them. Yeah. Maybe the Epstein files were the reasons why they were able to do like the Abraham Accords, you know? Exactly. Exactly. Or it could be another reason, like, you wouldn't expect countries that are entirely contingent on our support for
Starting point is 01:41:14 their lifestyle, like Israel, like to just ignore what we tell them. Like Trump's on record, telling BB don't bomb Iran. And then Bibi's like, that's hilarious. You think you're in charge. I'm bombing Iran. Calling your bluff. What are you going to do? Pussy. That's what, that's what Bibi does to Trump. He goes, what are you going to do? Pussy? What are you going to do? You're going to send me another check and I'm going to do what I want. And you're going to deal with it. No, you send me two checks. He does that to every president. Two checks now.
Starting point is 01:41:46 That's not how checks work. This is not how, this is not how checks work. I hate writing up the numbers as words. This is awful. That's what Trump's problem is. He's like, baby, once we just send these checks. And have you ever tried to write one trillion, 999 billion, 423 million, 632 thousand, $509 on a check? You can't do it, folks. I don't have one of those publishers clearing house checks.
Starting point is 01:42:11 It's really hard to spell. Nobody knew how hard 11 was to spell. Well, Trump thought there were two L's. Trump hates BB. Trump hates BB because BB was the first world leader to congratulate Joe Biden when it was like official that he won and Trump like never forgive him for that. He doesn't hate BB enough to like not maintain our relationship with Israel or whatever but that relationship is really fractured. Well I mean like Why does BB behave however he wants and he gets whatever he wants?
Starting point is 01:42:40 It's just like really firmly established foreign policy over the last like 50 years and to unravel that it would take a really long time. It's just like really firmly established foreign policy over the last like 50 years and to unravel that it would take a really long time It's unpopular We could I mean yeah But like even that like I think I think it's possible that we elect a Congress that would pass a bill to like defund Israel or whatever but that's a project that would take like years like it would take a really long time to That's exactly what I said two or three weeks ago, that to reverse that is a generation of work. And again, that's why I always say Trump already won. There is no Trump losing. It doesn't matter
Starting point is 01:43:12 what happens. He's not running again. None of this matters. The midterms are going to matter, but how bad will it be? They're going to get manhandled. We'll see. I don't think he cares that much. I mean, he cares a little, but he's already won. What he's done with the Supreme Court, that's the next 30, 40 years, maybe, of the way that things will go. The redistricting he's done, all of the judges that he's put into place, all of the key holders that owe their allegiance to him, he will never be prosecuted because of what I just said, all the key holders that he's allegiance to him. He will never be prosecuted because of what I just said, all the key holders that he's put into power.
Starting point is 01:43:48 He will never find justice and he will always be one of the greatest winners of all time. And I don't like that, but it's factually true. The things he's done, it's never been done before. They've never been done before. No one's ever done it the way he does. No one's ever been as powerful as he is. it's not just it's not like he had a great like idea It's him that they like it's him. It's his like vibe. It's what he gives off
Starting point is 01:44:15 It's the arrogance and the the bravado that he oozes It's the I don't give a fuck attitude that americans like because that's what we want to hear We want to hear fuck you. Don't you know who we want to hear. We want to hear, fuck you. Don't you know who we are? It's like that Toby Keith song, we'll put a boot in your ass. It's the American way. That's what people respond to.
Starting point is 01:44:33 They love him. I basically like, I don't, I don't, I basically like never spend any time arguing with MAGA these days. Like I'm only arguing with the left flank. And it's something that I just like really beg for them to start taking seriously. because the people that I argue with are the kinds that said you know I don't really see a meaningful difference
Starting point is 01:44:51 between Kamala and Trump and that's a whole different thing to unpack but like the judiciary alone is just so important like even if you disagree with some Democratic candidate that maybe you're like a communist and you just like you think they're kind of just as bad as Trump or whatever. If you just if they let Republicans just stack the courts as they've done in the last like and that was a multi-decade project like Heritage Foundation working with Republicans to like slowly pack that judiciary over time and then culminating with like what McConnell did with Obama which you, like that was just a full on power play. And, you know, I don't even know if I hate like, I don't like that it happened, but I,
Starting point is 01:45:30 you know, if that was a Democrat, if the roles were reversed, I think I would have wanted Schumer to do the same. Like he was just like wielding power in that moment. But I just can't get like a lot of lefties to like fully appreciate what, uh, why is it that Tommy's that you're like, is that who gives you the most guff? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, by far. Like I used to spar with Maga a lot during his first term and like me and Hassan got along back then. And, and you know, like the, the whole like, um, left, lefty ecosystem, uh, it was all kind of united against Trump because he was in
Starting point is 01:46:05 power back then. So there wasn't really a lot of opportunity to like for infighting. There was some, but not much. And then it was like the 2020 primaries and that whole debate, like when, when, when Biden beat Bernie, they never recovered from that. And then, you know, they really went after Biden a lot during his presidency. And then it really kicked into a whole new level after October 7th. And then it really kicked into a whole new level after October 7th. And then Israel and Gaza became this like lightning rod on the left. And it does seem like they tried to screw Bernie somewhat. If I'm remembering correctly, the 20, I think it was 2020 where it was like pretty close and then Bernie won Iowa. And
Starting point is 01:46:41 then every single Democrat dropped and supported Biden in one day other than the one Democrat who could pilfer votes and support from Bernie, which was Elizabeth Warren. And so it did feel like top down, like we're going to do it this way. Pete Buddha judge won Iowa. That was right before South Carolina. Yeah. So it was, there had been two winners so far, Booty Judge and Bernie,
Starting point is 01:47:05 and then we're headed into South Carolina, which everyone kind of knew Biden was gonna win, and he won South Carolina, and then everyone else dropped out, and Super Tuesday came, and- Yeah, other than Warren, right? Because Warren stayed in, and Pilfered some support away from Bernie.
Starting point is 01:47:22 I think it was Bernie and Warren stayed in, and so it was Bernie, Warren, Biden, right? So there's a couple like angles here. The first I can see how people are upset by that on the left. Well, all right. So there's like a couple angles here. So like the thing to unpack about Warren is that when they did polls of her supporters, it was actually pretty evenly distributed.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Like once she dropped out, like half of them went to Biden, half of them went to Bernie. So her dropping out actually would not have materially. This is who? Warren. Okay. So like everyone just assumes because she was super progressive like Bernie, like all of her voters would have gone to Bernie,
Starting point is 01:47:53 but that's not true. Like it was like half and half. But then the other thing to consider is like, what you're describing is just politics. Like Bernie was dominating in a split field. Like there were 12 candidates and every poll had him like looking at the path ahead. They're like, there's nobody that can stop this guy and that's where his strength was.
Starting point is 01:48:10 He was like a solid 35% in a field of 12 and nobody was even close to him. And so but there's this ideological differences within the party. Like he's a Democratic Socialist. Joe Biden is a sort of like, you know, moderate liberal guy. And so they don't agree with each other about like, what's best for the party, what's best for the country. And so it's not, you know, the idea that Klobuchar and Pete owed it to Bernie to stay into the race, stay in the race, even though they were new, they knew that. No, they owed it to Biden to bow out so then they could get like preferential treatment
Starting point is 01:48:42 within kind of the establishment, democratic apparatus. That would be my takeaway. And I'm also biased because I do like I'm no huge Bernie guy or anything, but I do like Bernie more than Biden. Well, I'm just like, you know, it almost was like Bernie supporters felt like he was entitled to the presidency. Like they felt like those lose the losing candidates should stay in the race just to block Biden from winning But of course the moderate candidates are gonna coalesce they're gonna do that I see where you're coming from but in one it was a four-way battle and then half of the competitors dropped out in a line behind Biden and
Starting point is 01:49:20 Like I'm not anti Biden but It feels yucky, right? It feels yucky when suddenly to those anti-Biden, but it feels yucky, right? It feels yucky when suddenly two people drop out. It feels anti-democratic. They shouldn't be able to throw their support behind anyone. That's not democracy to me. That if anything, that works against the democratic process. If you're gonna drop out, keep your fucking mouth shut.
Starting point is 01:49:39 We're still counting votes over here. These two are fighting it out. Now, if we were having a big free for all fist fight, that's how you'd want it to. Oh, I'm out. I'm out. My eyes hurt. Well, don't come in and kick me in the back of the knee because I got to fight this guy now. That's just politics, you guys.
Starting point is 01:49:53 Like, like it revealed. So Bernie didn't lose because Biden ratfucked him. Bernie lost because he did horrible with black voters and old voters. Like it's the candidate's job to convince at least a plurality of voters or enough voters to secure them enough delegates to win. And Bernie just didn't. Oh, it doesn't. I guess what I'm saying is it doesn't. That does not mean that Bernie would have won and the presidential nominee was stolen. But it appeared as though kind of the more core neoliberal democratic apparatus did have a moment of like, we're not letting
Starting point is 01:50:24 this guy get it. We're gonna, you know, Klobuchar, Buttigieg, these guys all back out and all of you guys, hey, do you want to be the secretary of transportation? Well, then support him. That's exactly right, though. But like, it's Bernie's job to convince voters that his vision is better than Biden's. And at the end of the day, he didn't do that. So like, I have a question for Hutch. Yeah, yeah. Why is Biden's was Biden so popular with black people? I know that it is fact. He always has been but I mean, yeah Obama was because he was the VP Zapping him up all the time. He's giving that
Starting point is 01:50:55 Cliburn is like a really kind of senior member in the house and he's like the leader of the Congressional Back and change. Yeah. Yeah They're gonna put you in change, folks. He was actually, Clyburn was was more of a reason why Biden ended up becoming the nominee than like Pete and Amy, because Clyburn was the one who endorsed him right before. Pete wouldn't have done well. He's gay. And that turns off. And Democrats lose horribly without black turnout.
Starting point is 01:51:22 And so like they couldn't have gone Pete. Do you know how much Pete polls with black voters? Do you know? Zero percent. It was I talked about this on PKN, like, and I saw some like Pete supporter quote tweeting that stat and being like, you know, guys, it's important to remember. Polls are often flawed and they can be as high as one or two percent. It could be as high as one percent, maybe a third of a percent. And it's like, yeah, you think you're gonna get
Starting point is 01:51:47 a bunch of white people to turn out for a guy who's like, yeah, me and my husband like to go on vacations and suck each other's cocks and fuck each other's asses. I'm the Buttigieg guy. I'm the only Buttigieg guy I know. There's no one who glazes Pete Buttigieg more than me and his husband. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Oh, damn it, I was hoping you'd miss that and I could turn it. Damn. But I think you guys, that and I could tell you. But I think you guys, I wish you could do better with black voters. Yeah, he's not going to do well. There's just no path to the Democratic nomination without like they're so they are such a crucial part of the coalition.
Starting point is 01:52:17 This is why. So here's what here's how I see the political landscape. The left, the progressive movement is to progress deeper and deeper into trans issues and trans rights and visibility and multiracial issues and a lot of stuff that flies in the face of traditional black and brown voters who both have retrospective strong religious backgrounds with the brown voters a lot of Catholics especially with the black voters they're all subject Southern Baptists they always have been like going back to slavery like like you would give your slaves a Bible so they would read that a slave does what his master tells them to do. You got a whole propaganda manual here that's 2,000 years old at work. And they hang on to that very,
Starting point is 01:53:11 the sort of bigotry parts of religion, their core fundamental parts of their belief systems. Yeah, you're exactly right. The religious, like the average Hispanic or black voter is gonna be more religious than like the median white democratic voter. But, oh, I lost my train of thought. I was gonna say something there. Well, the minorities are religious. Pete is gay.
Starting point is 01:53:38 They're not going to have it. So gay. I think it's gone. Yeah, Pete's gay. That's okay. But I just, because of that alone. It was really important though, just so you guys know. Just so you go is it Kyle saying they're gonna They're gonna lean more into the trans stuff and more into the social
Starting point is 01:53:50 No, what I was gonna yeah, I was gonna just the progressive wing of the party right now I just feel like there's such a mess like right like my I'd like my I'm a progressive, but I just feel like politically Everything is just so backwards because I they they talk talk as though the moderate wing of the party, which represents like 60, 65% of the party, like moderate voters, the progressives think that the moderate leadership should just step aside and then like give them the keys
Starting point is 01:54:18 to the castle and then they should be in charge and fuck the moderates for preventing that from happening. They wanna like skip the step of persuading voters. Yes, they do. Building a winning coalition. They just want to jump right to the like, just get out of our way and let Bernie be the guy. And it just drives me.
Starting point is 01:54:35 I think you're totally correct there. And that like you do see a lot of these far left commies being like, dude, there's a American Communist Party guy right now. And the only reason he'll lose in this district is because the Democrats are conniving and it's like, do you think that communism is popular with America? Go ask a regular Joe Blow American who doesn't spend all day on Reddit or Twitter or whatever. What do you think of communism? They're going to be like, fuck you. I'm not a commie. I'm not a big go.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Yeah. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,'re gonna be like, fuck you, I'm not a communist, I'm not a big go, you a commie? It goes on both sides. I hope the Democrats don't make the mistake that I've seen the Republicans make. When they run Dr. Oz or Herschel Walker or someone who's too far off the deep end, they lose. And if the Democrats are gonna run some commie, they'll follow in their footsteps on the other side of the aisle.
Starting point is 01:55:23 There seems to be a lot more pressure on the left to like push those like, like not even, I'm not even saying commie like disparagingly. I don't like communists, but like they're, they're, they'll put in their Twitter bio. I am a communist and I am running for this subsection of North Carolina. And it's like, okay, well then prepare to get blown the fuck out idiot. Like you have no shot. They just had the mom, Donnie, when in New York City. And that guy's like a full on like seizing the means of production is the final goal. Like, there's a clip of him saying that like three years ago.
Starting point is 01:55:53 So that's not just a democratic socialist. That's like a socialist socialist. You got to have those middle ground where you're where are. Do it and tell us what it is like farmer subsidies. Be open about what they are. All right Talk about how that's how that's socialism. And look, I'd love the buses should be free Why shouldn't buses and trains and public transport be free? Nobody should have to get a card. If you got a fucking American Passport, you should be able to ride a fucking bus for free. That's actually one policy that I think is bad like 60
Starting point is 01:56:23 Like the free buses know because I think is bad. Like 60 free buses. No, because I don't think people should have free buses. But like the 60% of the budget to maintain those buses comes from fares. And so if he doesn't come and he's talking, he says he wants to raise taxes on people making over a million dollars by like one or 2%. But he can't do that without the state legislature and Governor Huckle. So he's just not going to be able to do that. And so like if he takes that bus fare away, if he just, and he can do that unilaterally, I think if he just removes that and they don't compensate somehow by raising revenue somewhere else, the buses themselves are just going to be a
Starting point is 01:56:53 complete shitholes like pretty quick. Okay. But that's nuts and bolts. Philosophically, I want buses to be free. How it's paid for needs to be figured out. You have to be realistic. I'm torn on this. I know money will come from somewhere and it'll be taxpayer money. paid for needs to be figured out by. I'm torn on this. I'm real. I know money will come from somewhere and it'll be taxpayer money. You just have to fund it.
Starting point is 01:57:09 You have to create the funds. Raise taxes is what you do. Raise taxes, whatever it costs. Trump just won an election on a mountain of lies, right? He just spouts bullshit about what he's going to do. Solving wars on day one before he's even president. Russia, Ukraine will be fixed. There's a, we could go through a long list of lies
Starting point is 01:57:31 that were total bullshit. Mass deportations. Right, so now we got this guy in New York who's run, he's run the primary already, who's telling bullshit too. Food will be free, right? There'll be state run food stores and you'll just go in there and get what you want. Buses will be free, right? There'll be state run food stores and you'll just go in
Starting point is 01:57:45 there and get what you want. Buses will be free. All this shit's going to be free. And I look at that and I'm like, what the hell are you supposed to do about this though? If I was playing soccer against Taylor and his whole team picked up the ball with his hands and ran, I'm like, what am I going to keep kicking it?
Starting point is 01:58:02 Like I can't win this way, right? I can't. We have to start doing it the way they do, which is the wrong way. But what are you going to do? Just lose? But I feel like if you looked at his policy platform, like I actually was kind of surprised because I liked like 90% of his policies. It was like rent freezes. Stupid. The free bus fare I have concerns with the bodegas maybe make sense when there's food deserts. There have been red states that have, I think in Missouri, Taylor, that have done state-owned or city-owned bodegas,
Starting point is 01:58:34 and it serves a function if there's not a lot of competition. But the problem with doing it in all seven, is it seven bureaus or eight bureaus of New York City, is that those profit margins for those grocery stores and not all of them are like big chains. These are like brick and mortar like small and pa shops. The profit margins are like 1.5% already. Oh yeah. So they're already like struggling to like make a lot of money. And if you do and if you do a city run bodega and then they're putting downward pressure on the prices like it kind of fucks
Starting point is 01:59:02 those small. You're 100% right. And like if they're doing that in St. Louis city proper, and they're using that as an example of it working, then you're exactly right. And that's not an apt example, because St. Louis is a ghost town. Everyone lives in the county. No one lives in the city. All the normal grocery stores in St. Louis have mostly shuttered because of issues with like robbery and violence out front. And so if they're like, oh, we got, you know, some state run grocery stores in St. Louis proper. It's like, okay, a place where there already didn't exist competition, because that's not what New York is. New York is not St. Louis. New York has plenty of organic
Starting point is 01:59:41 competition there and it's going to fuck over whatever the shit Aldi or whatever. But there are food deserts in New York City so like it can work in specific like localized areas or whatever but it's just not gonna it doesn't make sense in every burr. My racist bone twinkles when I hear food desert I think you shouldn't have burned Wendy's. You shouldn't have burned down that Aldi. You shouldn't keep raping the Aldi cash register girl. Those cantaloupes aren't free and you're running out with two garbage bags. You know, like that's what they're stealing. What's up, Chris? How's it going?
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Starting point is 02:07:11 Blu Chu Lock and Load merch. Chris, what's new with you? How have you been doing? Same old, same old. Just watching old shows and being like, huh? That's about the extent of my content. Wow, this is crazy. You know, it seems like these West Coast
Starting point is 02:07:30 say what guys seem to manufacture time. There was there was one show that there was one show. I forgot to mention, I think last time I was on here that I think you guys would really enjoy. It's on TLC, of course, and it's called My Husband's Not Gay. OK, can you guys guess what state this show took place in? Yep. Utah. Yeah. It is a bunch of Mormons, the
Starting point is 02:08:02 gayest guys you've ever seen, who are married because they're not allowed to be gay. And they just kind of fuck guys, but they're not gay. They might be though. Oh, so like the lead is wrong. Do they get a third gay guy to shake the bed? I'm just soaking my dick in your ass so much.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Yes, he's soaking. What was that show? Jury Duty? Oh my God. You know what I'm talking about? Let's open my eyes to what it takes to be gay. I thought if you had gay sex that made you gay. And in my, this is like 15 years ago me, I thought that if you had gay sex, you were kind of permanently gay,
Starting point is 02:08:47 that that was a label that you couldn't shed. This is what I thought. Got the stain on you. And Hutch was like, no, gay sex doesn't make you gay. A desire for more gay sex makes you gay. And I was like. Trained an entire generation of Zoomers to believe that gay sex does not make you gay.
Starting point is 02:09:03 Dude, I'm on board. That's what progressives do? I'm on board. I think that it's a desire believe that gay sex does not make you gay. Dude, I'm on board. That's what progressives do. I'm on board. I think that it's a desire for gay sex. That is what indicates that you're a gay person. Not an experimental phase. It's if you want more gay bone in you, you're gay. It's because I knew a gay guy who exclusively liked young straight men. And he would get them to like... Wow, kind of predatory.
Starting point is 02:09:29 And then they would go right back to... not like young young. And that guy's name? Jeffrey Epstein. Me and Jeffy Epstein. Wait, so this guy would go around and fuck young gay men and then he'd be like, as they're laying on the bed crying, realizing their life will never be the same, he's like no, it's only gay if you want it again. And then they're like okay, I guess I can go home
Starting point is 02:09:53 and try and be an actor still. He just, here hold on, check, check, check, is that better? Yeah, you do sound good now. Maybe Woody hears differently. I would like even louder. I feel like you're not as loud as Kyle and Taylor and I don't know myself
Starting point is 02:10:05 What if I check automatically adjust mic volume is that better mic check mic check? It's real similar. I think I've taken too much time. We normalize it in post. Okay, he'll get it. Sorry anyway, so your friend was a Gay guy who had sex with younger men that he suspected Were gay and then they were all straight. They were like he had a thing for straight guys. He was like a gay guy with a fetish for it's a common thing. Guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:33 I wonder if he was ever fooled. Like, I only fuck straight guys. Well, yeah, yeah. Well, he runs in the day as long, sweetie. He runs right into Lindsey Graham. Well, you're gonna have a lot of stuff you're not gonna get me. No, they would go back to like dating women after him. It was just this... Yeah, it was pretty...
Starting point is 02:10:55 Sounds like he needs training, skill improvement. If this guy had the motion, then they'd stay gay. How do you get these straight guys to give it up? No idea. He would just show up at like we would meet at restaurants and say he would just show up with like a new straight guy every month. It was just a whole thing. I think we got a lot of straight guys in denial doing that because if a guy asked me on the date, you know, I'm going to be like, is it a vacation?
Starting point is 02:11:23 Because if it's like you're taking me to Hawaii, I might have to be a little gay. But if we're just going to fucking PF Chang's, nah, I'm not putting out dude. Don't flash them in. It's like a tiger king situation. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Tell me, you go gay for a domestic vacation?
Starting point is 02:11:36 That is, I mean, you're bi already, just based on that. Hawaii? Hawaii? That's like $2,000 for travel. How far do they have to fly you to be gay? Kyle's like Toronto. Mars! Mars! Mars? Yeah, we're gonna have to go extra planetary.
Starting point is 02:11:52 I feel like it's like that Larry David interview where he was like talking about how like a destination wedding where he's like more than two hours. No, thanks. I feel like that's me with gay guy Taking me on vacation. I'm like, how long how long is a fucking flight? I'm picturing the genuine straight guy who got wrapped up in this who like it's just kind of coming to out of his You know, whatever cocktail was fed to him of drugs and alcohol as he's being plugged and he's like, ah He got me Taylor's clarity must be insane after that I just imagine Kyle's post not clarity like in my defense I didn't mean Chinatown. I can't even get a cab here. What is this fucking Newark?
Starting point is 02:12:48 It's like Tiger King. Remember, remember fucking Tiger King? He had like a harem of young straight dudes. I think I was a complete predator. Well, what I do is I like to find straight man in dire financial straits and then coax them into giving up their ass for me. And they're like, are you sure you don't want to do a second take here? We're making a documentary. And he's like, no, that's what happens.
Starting point is 02:13:11 I think there's no way a straight man is hooking up with the Tiger King. And being like, you know what? Fuck it. Yeah, they were. Oh, that is a foul looking man. You watch Tiger King, right? You're an expert. You watched it, right? I saw it. That is a foul looking man. You watch Tiger King, right? You're an expert. You watched it, right? I saw it.
Starting point is 02:13:28 Chris, he started a Chris. I OK, two episodes. I know enough. Let me tell you this, Chris. I've seen the whole thing three fucking times and I'm obsessed with it. I watched a documentary about it. I've read about it. Sure. But what's going on here is that he would find
Starting point is 02:13:44 guys who had just gotten out of prison guys guys Who had all sorts of issues with their life drug problems addiction problems? And he was paying them in meth to be his quasi boyfriend this flight Chris That's why their teeth were rotting out that was that wasn't just for hygiene You don't lose your fronts from like just not just for hygiene. Those brought out from meth. I said this is Tiger King's boyfriend's love letter, by the way. So you may not know this Tiger King in prison for I think a run by the murder of Baskin's and he married a Spanish man, a Mexican man, I believe, in prison.
Starting point is 02:14:21 And he's been begging Donald Trump to let him out for years. When Donald Trump got elected last time, Tiger King had a limo show up at prison to pick him up expecting the immediate pardon. It never came, of course. Well, he married this this Mexican man. Wouldn't you know it? Ice came and grabbed him and deported his ad. I didn't see that. He's extra mad at Donald Trump.
Starting point is 02:14:41 And he posted this over here. Zach, can you show this this link I sent? This is a love letter from the Tiger King's husband He's extra mad at Donald Trump and he posted this over here. Zach, can you show this this link I sent? This is a love letter from the Tiger King's husband and included on it are some ink blots of his butthole. Oh, this is Tiger King's husband's butthole. You know how hard it is to do that. So hard and not get the paper wrinkled.
Starting point is 02:15:02 Yeah. How would you do it without getting the paper wrinkled? That name goes out of the sprayer tweaks really far. Because you'd have to prolapse. Shove it up your... These could be prolapsed. No, you could see the pucker. That's a tight one. You think he was dipping his prolapsed butthole
Starting point is 02:15:17 into an inkwell and then turning the transformation? The evidence is before you! Yeah, but like... You know, his eyes were squinting the whole time. He's like, Oh fuck yeah right. The thing's saying, for another hit. And all these, like you know he put a couple down
Starting point is 02:15:31 and he's like, no... That's not what I want. Why are they so often paired? Like, they're not randomly placed on the paper. It's probably hard to organize it effectively, cause you can't see it. You're putting your butthole on a piece of paper. I'm going to look again.
Starting point is 02:15:49 I don't like this, and I hope Trump doesn't partner pardon him. This guy seems this guy seems positively ghoulish. That's how Trump could get the headlines off of the Epstein stuff. He if he pardoned Tiger King and had Tiger King come to the Oval Office and in his whole get up, that would change the whole news media narrative. It really would. I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Would you be upset if he pardoned him before you? No. Tiger King is a much bigger priority at this point. Because whenever he is freed, I think he's got a long sentence that's going to send him into elderliness. But if he got out right now, he could make another season of Tiger King. He could have his own TV show called The Tiger King, and it would do pretty well.
Starting point is 02:16:38 Like he is if he were out right now, he would be a celebrity making a TV show and doing well. I don't I really don't know about that. I think such a personality. I think that Iron was struck in early 2020 with that show. A big reason that it was so huge is because every it was even a meme. It was like, oh, stuck at home for the covid shit, because that's when everyone like no one had any idea what it was.
Starting point is 02:17:03 It was so early. Guess I'm going to watch the new Netflix thing. What's the tiger King? Like it would never have been as big as it was without the exact kind of, okay, it would probably kill it on kick. It would be as big as it was, but it was still going to be massive. It was still going to be a generational type hit to me. It's one of the best like docs ever.
Starting point is 02:17:23 It's every episode something incredible. There's an episode that ends with two main characters in a room and one of them accidentally kills, or no, no, one of them suicides. One of them kills himself with a handgun on camera in front of another main character of the show. People that you have been learning about for the last like six, seven episodes.
Starting point is 02:17:44 And it goes, bang! And you just see the guy go, ah, like reacting. I think it resonated with you, especially hard. Like I think because because you've watched it a few times. I don't love to get Chris and Hutch's thoughts on Tiger King, but I know Woody and I are more on the same page with it where it was like, this was entertaining at the time. I will never, ever rewatch that. But it was a fun little cultural moment. But I don't think he's, even if they pardoned, if Trump pardoned that guy today, he's just trying to prey on some other
Starting point is 02:18:16 straight meth head in Florida. He's not doing any, he's not gonna get another giant show. He totally would. He would immediately get a Netflix deal. You know how much money Netflix made from his property, but it was massive. It's one of the biggest things they've ever done. And I know the pandemic aided that it would be the Tiger King. So you don't have to pay the original people.
Starting point is 02:18:35 And yeah, you could absolutely get him into someone else's Tiger place and have him do his regular skit. I want to see him interacting with Tigers. I want to see him shooting guns. I want to see him limping around. I want to see him doing gay stuff. I want to see him like, you know, dating. I want to see the dating live. Yeah, I want to see all that stuff. His boyfriends were half the fun. Those weird dudes. I was going to say, like, the tigers are the least interesting part of the show. Do you know about the tiger fucks suits that they found in his attic?
Starting point is 02:19:05 Yes, you told me. Yeah, they had these like it wasn't it wasn't exactly a furry suit. It was almost like a thing you climbed into, like a taxidermy tiger that a man could climb inside of so that they could like role play together. He was getting plugged by a furry suit. Well, furry suit you wear around. You're like a mascot.
Starting point is 02:19:24 You could jump around and like go to a convention dressed as whatever the fuck. This was like a stationary thing. It looked big and it also looked gruesome. It looks scary. I am with Kyle on this for the record. I thought I was fucking riveting when it came out. And I don't think it was just because of the pandemic. I am. I am with Taylor, though, that I don't know if it still has legs.
Starting point is 02:19:47 Like, I don't think anyone's going to give a fuck if like, and you wouldn't be able to replicate everything that happened that first season. There's just no way you could ever top that. That lady with one arm being like, well, I didn't want to report it because it could hurt the Tigers. It's like what, who got to you? Like someone, you could have made a huge to do about this. You got your hand ripped off.
Starting point is 02:20:07 Trans person. Yeah, that lady who got like, who had the stump arm, who was like, I love the tiger so much. I think it was a woman becoming a man, but it's been so long. I don't remember the- I don't know. I was a butch lesbian.
Starting point is 02:20:20 The one armed lady not taking the Tiger King to task was ridiculous. That was the point of the series that stands out to me the most. What she actually did, so her hand was very badly maimed and it was sort of like you know 50-50 whether they were going to be able to save it or not and she thought that by not cutting it off the story would go on longer. The bad publicity would go on longer. And she was like, oh, we'll just cut it off and get it over with. And then it's like, it's all over and we won't get any more bad. What I also think is a lot of those people working for him are like felons or they're maybe even like wanted or something like that. And they didn't want a lot of attention from
Starting point is 02:21:00 the authorities. And certainly the Tiger King didn't because, I mean, there's a reason he went to prison. He was plotting the murder of Carole Baskin. And you know, she doesn't seem like too good of a character either. She seems like a piece of shit. We'll see that whole world of the private zoos and the characters and they were all characters who ran them was interesting. The Tiger King was the main star of the show. But obviously there was a guy in South Carolina, maybe, named Doc, maybe North Carolina. He was the good one. No, he was manipulating all those women in bikinis that he was like pressuring and forcing. We have different definitions of good. He was the one who should have been the star of the Tiger King.
Starting point is 02:21:40 No, they didn't follow up. That guy made the Tiger King look dull. What does the Tiger King do? Have a couple of tigers and a couple of gay lovers and then dude, the doc had a harem of like they did a, they did a follow up season. There was a season two of Tiger King where they focused on him. So if you like what he was selling, check it out. I guess. See another point to the it wouldn't have been a big boom thing. Oh, OK. Yeah. But anyway, this actually go guys, just so you know. Thank you for boom thing. Oh, OK. Yeah. But anyway, this
Starting point is 02:22:05 actually go guys, just so you know. Thank you for coming on. We appreciate it. Thanks for talking to my man. Yeah, always. Chris, we didn't get a chance to talk, but it's good to meet you. And yeah, good to meet you, too. Yeah, it's fun chatting with you boys.
Starting point is 02:22:15 Take it easy. Yeah. Good night. Easy. Good night. Now I'm looking at this, my husband's not gay show. And of the four men named is Curtis the most obviously gay it's a fucking long because i'm just looking at the names and between Jeff, Pret, Curtis and Tom oh fucking saying Curtis is the most gay and then Pret and then Jeff and Tom are just kind of a toss
Starting point is 02:22:43 up i'm gonna say Pret if you grow if your is Pret, you're gonna grow up your whole life being like totally gay, so you might like just become that way. It might stick. That's one, I think I made a joke in my video, cause I posted it last November, and I've never, I think he might be the only Pret. No one has ever been named that.
Starting point is 02:23:03 I've heard Pret. Yeah, Pret. I think the gayest name is Tom. And I say that because there's probably a Tom who just got mad. There's gotta be a Tom watching right now that's like, well, he's Tom like, what the fuck are you? Tom Aspinal right now. There's one, there's one guy. There's one guy. That's a shit. Tom Aspinall right now. There's one Pret out there flippin' his desk. Right now.
Starting point is 02:23:29 No. The proud man. But I got a couple hundred Toms with mine. Pret. Yeah, you know, Curtis just stuck out as the gayest. Yeah, Curtis is, that's a gay name. Also, another show, there's a new Gordon Ramsay show that's out now called Secret Service,
Starting point is 02:23:46 where it's just fucking kitchen nightmares, but with extra steps. Gordon Ramsay just wants to be Jason Bourne. He wears a baseball cap, and there's even shots in the show where it looks like a Jason Bourne transition where they're going to a new city and it's like Washington, DC, and he's like just driving in this SUV, wearing a baseball cap. And then after about like 10 minutes into the show, it's kitchen nightmares. Okay. Does he try to be like sneaky? Is he acting like he's a secret agent sneaking in and getting the dirt on the
Starting point is 02:24:23 restaurant? Basically there's a like agent sneaking in and getting the so on the restaurant basically There's a like secret insider on the show like some of that works So that's like this place is going to fucking hell and then they reach out to Gordon and they're like, please save us Gordon Ramsay and he they like leave a key somewhere so he can go in after hours and like look around the place and like just pick up gross shit and be like oh my god and he gets like an idea of like how bad the place is running and then he sits in a van and then he plays guy in the chair just like spying on this place and kitchen nightmares see that's so fake and produced though, just the premise.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Yep. Because obviously you can't do that, that's breaking and entering. And if Gordon Ramsay breaks and enters into my place, I am going to press charges until he pays me off. Well, also they think, so the restaurant owners think they're going on like a restaurant renovation show.
Starting point is 02:25:22 Okay. So they know that they're being filmed and they have cameras up and they're like, they're like, oh, we're on a show. So that's the premise, but who fucking knows. That's a little bit better. I think he, I do watch a good bit of Gordon Ramsay. I kind of like the cooking competitions
Starting point is 02:25:38 where there's like 20 or 30 cooks trying to win the job at a nice restaurant and some cash prize. I like those. There was one year where they had the blind girl win and I was furious. Furious. Like, how are you going to write a cookbook? That's my favorite. That's my favorite thing ever. Have you seen his disguises? And Zach, I want you to open the web page because this has some other examples of his disguises number one the yeah First one have you guys ever seen might be a deep cut but the old Nickelodeon show mr. Meaty Yes, yes, I was that's what he looks like. I wasn't gonna reference that I was gonna reference the garbage pail kids He kind of has that look to that weird round bloated face like he's being inflated with air he's got such a
Starting point is 02:26:30 distinctive look that he can't pull off any disguise and and also that looks like a nightmare that is so ghastly just so awful. There we go. That's a woman. Would why are you in fishing my tacos? This is fucking nonsense. Also, I'm so bad at a Gordon impression. Like any time I like made a joke in my video where I was like Gordon for like a bit,
Starting point is 02:27:00 I would go back and forth from like doing my shitty impression to just like talking to my normal fucking voice. like I'm so bad at his voice I don't remember what even sounds like the the most iconic line He has is when he holds those slices of bread up on that lady's head. He's like, what are you? She's like an idiot sandwich. She's like an idiot sandwich. That's exactly what you are Yeah, you'll continue to be that until you cook this correctly. Do it again." And he's yelling.
Starting point is 02:27:27 One impression that I think my last video was Extreme Makeover Home Edition, which I finally covered. People have been like asking for it forever. And I did my best Thai impression, but it was just Ben Shapiro with a cold. That was like the whole thing. Ben Shapiro with a cold. That was like the whole thing. Ben Shapiro?
Starting point is 02:27:47 Yes. You gotta do it with like a raspy voice to get ties like- Anybody can't take miles is that they're not important and it's time to move on. Yeah, exactly. And it's time to move on gang, it's time to move on folks. Yeah, that's what he's probably one of the easiest people
Starting point is 02:28:00 to do an impression of, because you just sound like, and you just make your voice higher and then be a total fucking dweeb. And that's bad. How can you sound as lame as possible right now? Well, you have to have a totally astroturf show, but not a lot of organic following.
Starting point is 02:28:14 Actually. And you have to be supported by really powerful people. Some of them foreign people. Yeah, what is this you've linked? Trump is suing Rupert Murdoch and the Wall Street Journal for publishing the letter that he says is a hoax. Kyle, you muted? You can tell it's him because of, you know, just scanning over this, you know, briefly, you know, skimming, I should say, not scanning. He's got a bunch of all caps words and he loves all caps.
Starting point is 02:28:45 That might be the most boomer thing about him. And it's seven paragraphs long. Every time he writes fake, he puts it in all caps. And he doesn't, yeah, no paragraph breaks is brutal. Like that's just straight up rude. If someone sends you a huge diatribe message and they don't even do the tiny bit of work to break it up into paragraphs, I won't read it. It's like that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:29:11 That's so rude. That's why I send you those sentences. I have a bullet point style of texting. You do and I appreciate it. It's a message is a separate little thought and they stack. And it's I don't like getting this big giant that's intimidating I don't chisel send like he's again those basketball fucking messages from him that woody props up occasionally with like a response for some reason now he's gonna do it to bother us he should be an nba commentator he is so knowledgeable about the sport look I don't know anything about it, so I'm easily impressed. But still, it's clear that he is so deep in the minutia of the numbers and the stats and who's going to win this or that. And also all the behind the scenes drama. It's impressive, but I don't give a fuck. I'm going to hit it back on WNBA as often as possible.
Starting point is 02:30:00 That's fine. WNBA I'm kind of into. Way more than NBA. Really? Yeah. Kate and Clark keeps a Harry. All right. Yeah. We watched a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Or I watched a couple of clips on Twitter. Reverse psychologying me. I see through it. WNBA. Well, it's your lucky day. Every once in a while Chiz will send, because I feel like the three of us usually just write sentences in there, you know, normal conversation. We don't tend to send like long diatribes. And it's not that Chiz is doing it about anything other than basketball. And sometimes I'll
Starting point is 02:30:37 see, because I don't check the chat until nighttime, sometimes I'll like open it and be like, oh my God, 85 messages. Scroll to the bottom to see what it is. And it's like, oh, well, this is, you know, Kyle and Chiz were arguing about a movie, which is common because they both have such a crazy level of movie knowledge. And then it'll be, okay, well, that conversation ended five hours ago. Oh, it looks like the next 41 messages are all Chiz
Starting point is 02:31:00 talking about basketball. And then sometimes Chiz traps me very astutely because like at the end of the basketball diatribe, he'll be like, Hey, Taylor, I just saw this thing about the LA Kings trading someone to the Chicago Blackhawks. What do you think about this? I don't know anything about the NHL. And then I'll see that and be like, Ooh, he got me. I do want to talk about this. Now I'm in the mix. And then, you know, 20 messages later, he'll send a screen about basketball. I never reply not once ever to his NBA talk,
Starting point is 02:31:31 unless we're talking about like John Morant, you know, with the finger guns. That's funny to me or, or the NBA just being rigged as a game. That's funny to me. I'll talk about that, but God, I couldn't care less about the game and it being played. I'm into Caitlin, Caitlin Clark. I find her to be fascinating and all the drama and the the poor actions of the WNBA and protecting her and which is the golden goose of golden geese. It's pretty embarrassing and you know I think it's the NBA circle jerk subreddit where they like sort of goon over
Starting point is 02:32:04 the the hot girls from the WNBA. I don't know those girls' names, but I know their looks. There's this blonde who's just like super, WNBA, she's like super leggy. She's clearly over six feet tall and she's a knockout. And they just, every like hot picture of her gets posted. But the thing right now is, Caitlin Clark apparently doesn't, keeps a bush.
Starting point is 02:32:23 We did see that video forever that got leaked where you saw Caitlin Clark get revealed in the shower and she had a hairy lady parts down there. And so that's an ongoing like meme over there seemingly that Caitlin Clark keeps it hairy. If you search, if you Google search Caitlin Clark keeps it hairy, you'll find where I spend most of my time. I just tried to search Caitlin Clark Bush on Twitter and it says something went wrong. Maybe that's a banned phrase. I should ask Grok about it.
Starting point is 02:32:52 Ask Grok if Caitlin Clark keeps it hairy and see what Grok says. And he's going to fill you in on the back story. I'm sending that right now to Grok. Does Caitlin Clark keep it hairy? Searching. There is no credible information or evidence from reliable sources addressing Caitlin Clark's personal grooming habits, specifically body hair. Discussions on this topic, such as those found in posts
Starting point is 02:33:15 on X often stem from inappropriate or speculative comments like those made by Antonio Brown in April, 2024 which led to Clark blocking him on the platform. These remarks are largely offensive, unfounded, and not reflective of verified information. There's a whole nother paragraph here, but he's not giving me what I want. So I need to basically the man. I did a little bit of research into this and I can tell by just the outfit she
Starting point is 02:33:38 wears that she has no underarm hair and no belly hair. So I'm not impressed. We weren't. Oh, oh, I see, yeah. I am so not into that. Whenever I see that, like on Reddit, I'll be flicking through the not safe work stuff and there'll be some hairy chick with the armpits
Starting point is 02:33:55 and it's like, that's such a turn off. That's such a turn off. All jokes aside, kind of a turn off, but it wouldn't be the, look, if she's got the rest of the package, I wouldn't kick her out of bed for that. I'll take what I can get. That's what my mind was doing.
Starting point is 02:34:15 You know what? It does. It does look like Antonio Brown. Kyle did tweet that exact line. You said Caitlin Clark looks like she keep it hairy That's probably where it started dude that's a picture of Tony a Brown is hilarious. That guy's a great shit poster Yeah, let me see. So yeah, no interest in the NBA less interest in that. I guess that's a bottle I hate so much, but I can't get on board with any sport anymore Except for the UFC and even the UFC is fucking whenever judges Screwed someone over Wonderboy got screwed over last week. He's 42 years old
Starting point is 02:34:50 He he didn't fight a guy in his last fight because that guy missed weight and to punish him for it the UFC puts him up against a guy who's but 27 years old and a good wrestler and Wonderboy won the fight He won two out of three rounds and all that other guy could do was hold Wonder Boy against the cage and throw ineffectual knees. And they gave that guy the win. And it was like, come on. It's like, come on.
Starting point is 02:35:14 Like it was, it was really upsetting. I hate wonder boys did more damage. Oh yeah. He did more damage. He won the fight. Um, he won the fight. All the other guy did again was he won more round one if I remember correctly. And then he held Wonder Boy against the cage a lot.
Starting point is 02:35:29 It not doing any real damage. And wonder boy was good by that. Sometimes, it depends on the judges, which is another big problem with the UFC. Maybe there should be five judges. The average out you know out the bullshit. I don't know, it's upsetting. I'm pretty psyched that that White House card is actually going to happen. That's a thing that will happen.
Starting point is 02:35:54 And they are saying it's gonna be on the White House lawn. I hope he puts together a home run card for it. I'm pretty psyched for that. I wouldn't really like that. I'm sorry, you're more, yeah, I'd love it. I make a point of not getting my hopes up until after the weigh-ins. It is all just hopes and dreams
Starting point is 02:36:13 until the fighters make weight. When they have to make weight, they have to go through the, of course, training camp, but also the weight cutting process without getting hurt or overly sick or whatever. And it's just, I've had so many cards fall apart that I was excited about. You're gonna watch Poirier versus Holloway
Starting point is 02:36:31 with us this weekend? Yeah, man. Yeah, that'd be cool. Y'all wanna come watch with us? Join the $50 Patreon. We do a big group watch of almost every UFC card. It's a good time. Yes, I will take dirty's money
Starting point is 02:36:42 through pure luck and speculation. Chris, I will take dirty's money through pure luck and speculation Chris deep I know you watch a lot of reality Are there any shows for that are good like like when I say good you're like, huh? All right. This isn't the same old bullshit they actually tried to make a good show here because most of what I get exposed to is like lots of like love island type stuff where it's just a bunch of sluts on a beach and lots of stuff that seems really, really fake. I think there's a dating show. Tell me more about this love island.
Starting point is 02:37:14 Yeah. And I, and then there's that love on the spectrum. Do you watch that? I hear that's good. I have not. So usually I try to stay away from the ones that are like season long, like plot lines, because it's a lot of work. I like watching ones that are like isolated, like episode per episode. And like everything with these people are happening within one episode. Okay. I probably Deadliest Warrior is like the one that's the funnest to watch.
Starting point is 02:37:47 Have you guys seen that? Not is that a spike TV? Where they would take two warriors from history and then just be like, who would win? And then they have the experts. It's so fun to watch. It's so bad. I got it made that show. I met the guy that made that show in L met the guy that made that show in LA.
Starting point is 02:38:06 He was this fat slob that looked like Danny DeVito, but a little bit taller. And he told a huge lie about why he was late to our meeting. He was like, oh yeah, a lady was getting carjacked and I stepped in like a hero and saved her. So that's why I'm all sweaty and late. I was like, no, you didn't. There's that one. And then one I covered like, over a year ago, it's paranormal home investigators, where it's these, the good thing about the show is like they have like a paranormal investigator, then they have a what's the I can't remember
Starting point is 02:38:42 the name of this type of job, but where it's like some of that like, it's like they're an expert in like spiritual shit. Like, I don't know, but maybe- Clarivoyum? Something like that, yeah. But then they also have just a fucking home inspector that's like every time they're like, oh, there's a draft. And he's like, well, yeah, you've got an exit door over there.
Starting point is 02:39:10 And then you've got basically just like, I love that quiz. That is so good. That's actually, I think that might be my favorite show because the whole time there, I think at a certain point, they're like, this might be aliens. And he's like also It looks like your thermostat is out of batteries that
Starting point is 02:39:32 The whole show I'm see I'm seeing beings in my room late at night. Yes. Your carbon monoxide feel filter wasn't working You're all poisoned right now. We shouldn't be in here There's been these noises. It's like something's crawling around and they're like, well you Have like a creaking wood floor over here and like it's that's the whole episode. I love it. He's still on. Yeah No, that's good I would almost like that like premise better if the first half of the show was Like the believers and with the gadgets and the crystals and stuff going in and be like, yep, your eat up will go strife with them. I also got a demon in the fourier.
Starting point is 02:40:11 And then after that they had the home inspector go. That's exactly how it goes. They let the fucking lunatics go wild at first. And then they bring in the guy and he's like, probably not. And which I want to cover that show more, but then it literally is the same thing every time. So I'm like, I don't know what more I can say about this because it's just paranormal home inspectors.
Starting point is 02:40:36 Yeah. There's another one I did, another ghost show. Let me see. Sorry, I gotta... It's... Oh, um... Paranormal Cops. It's these guys from Chicago. The most Chicago guys you've ever heard in your life. And they're cops, but they're also like I will hunt fucking ghosts tonight and they just Going hunt ghosts. It's like ghost adventures, but it's cops
Starting point is 02:41:11 Yeah, I don't like the guys because there aren't any ghosts and and and after decades of ghost shows They never have found a ghost. So like I'm pretty sure there are no ghosts when I was a kid The it was like it was like I don't know there might be ghosts. When I was a kid, it was like, I don't know, there might be aliens, there might be big feet, there might be swamp monsters, there might be mermaids, but now that everybody's got a cell phone, we've all got a camera, we still don't have any pictures or video of any of that stuff except for aliens maybe.
Starting point is 02:41:37 Some of that weird drone activity we saw last year was weird and kind of hard to explain, but I haven't seen a picture of a Bigfoot or a Loch Ness Monster Or any of that nonsense since I was a kid because they're not real Yeah, which people my comments are like no, but I Have an experience and I'm like, okay. All right. Oh, I'm glad you are. So since you brought us in the home inspector in and See what's really going on. That's your way till Taylor comes back. I had a little bit of a perfect. Look at that
Starting point is 02:42:10 Speaking of the else around we should have into reality Maybe if Woody had a big bag of dicks fall on him not not dildos, but actual disembodied penis What so with a full bush and armpit hair and they're all they're all genetic clones of Conor McGregor. So they're all hanging to the right. It's an uncut crooked potato dicks just flopping all over you. So I think about what he with that, should I think about that? Shane Gillis, Joe Rogan clip where he was like, you're getting close where he was like, yeah, like I like armpit hair and I like body hair.
Starting point is 02:42:43 And he's like, you're getting close. I had that I want to. So I had a weird experience. I guess it was after we did PKN this week or maybe it was Wednesday night. And I don't really remember. I texted the gang whenever it was and I don't believe that anything paranormal happened.
Starting point is 02:43:02 And yet I can't explain what did happen. That's where I am just so before I tell this story and it's not a crazy story. I was sitting on my couch, my girlfriend's on the other side of the couch, the dogs are all amongst us, dogs are like asleep like out, TV's on, room's kind of dark but there's a lamp on and on my table there on the floor there's a half full can of like whatever soda without anyone and anything in the room moving the can of soda flipped over onto its side and there was no breeze we're indoors we're in my living room at night i'm telling you this thing flipped over and it was no it goes glug glug glug glug glug I mean, it's half full. This is something that doesn't fall over on its own and yet it did It just did we're not
Starting point is 02:43:52 It it's not like her foot could have kicked it and it was a joke It's not like the dog could have like flicked its tail and I wouldn't have noticed joke the table's over there it fucking fell over on its own and we were like I was like, what the fuck was that? She's like, how did that move? And she said, how did that move? And I was like, what the fuck was that? I was like, we're not talking. She gets up and she sits the can up right. And she's like, click, click, click. She's like, it's still pretty full. And the tables like covered in soda. She cleans up, cleans it all up. And we go back to the movie, which
Starting point is 02:44:22 was a scary movie movie by the way. And then I swear to God, 10 minutes later, there's this little lamp right behind me on like a headboard that my couch has. And it's like a lamp slash like oil burning thing and it smells nice. It didn't just blow the bulb. It died. The bulb wasn't the problem. The whole lamp broke We moved out the next day I might I might actually start believing you think it's supernatural or aliens Stat I don't be super natural literally can't explain what happened I don't know how a can falls over like that obviously lamps break
Starting point is 02:45:01 And it was just but but the the timing of the two weird things happening back to back was weird. And I have no explanation. I don't think anything creepy or ghoulish happened. But I can't explain why that can't fall over something something could have happened something like a hotel kind of nerd. You literally know what natural process would have caused that can to tip. I have no possible explanation for what would make that can tip unless someone had a like, like pulling a trick on me is what it
Starting point is 02:45:31 would require. I'm not it would require that it would require and Murphy wouldn't do that to you. I was looking at it. I'm this thing was in my field of view. It's not like across the room, something happened and there are dogs everywhere. I'm looking at the TV and like right below it is the table. It's lit by the lamp by the TV's glow and I and the can goes flunk and falls over. And again, it's half full. Like it's heavy. Was the horror movie you were watching a supernatural or like an alien slasher or was it like a relevant? I'm just curious. I'm just curious. Like it was a Spanish stage. It was a Spanish film called terrified and I believe it's about
Starting point is 02:46:08 interdimensional beings. Oh, not terrifier. I was thinking that's the clown one. No, this is another horror movie recommendation for anybody who likes them terrified. I think it's on shutter. It's Spanish language and it's got some really creepy visuals. I liked it a lot. I thought it was a good one. Did it add to your viewing experience having that tip over and thinking like, holy shit, maybe some of this is real? No, no. Well, you know, I did look under my bed for the scary man in the movie later on, but, but he wasn't there.
Starting point is 02:46:39 I do that. I check under my bed every single night, just to be sure. I don't, but I probably should. If there's fucking demons dipping your cans and. Ruining your, I'm sure, not shoddily produced Bangladeshi oil lamps. When you said oil lamp, I'm like,
Starting point is 02:47:01 it's like oil lamps. I know what he's talking about. I have I have one of those. It's like a candle without a flame. It's like a oil lamps. I know what he's talking about. I have I have one of those. It's like a candle without a flame. It's an electric is it the ones with like the the wax? Yes. It's like a wax burning. You're like walking around the house, like checking for a noise at night with your gown
Starting point is 02:47:18 on with his sounding rod. Yeah. Looking for something sinister sounding rods are so cool I like like I think that most people don't know what sounds like wait huh yeah so wait hold on is a sounding rod what I'm trying to say or is that what you put in your deck that's what I was actually is it a dousing rod yeah it is a dousing rod. You've got yeah Something very different
Starting point is 02:47:52 Never mind never mind. I'm not into dowsing So I know we've talked about it like maybe years ago But like when you get call a guy to drill a well at your at your place, so they're calling it now they don't a well at your at your place. So they're calling it now. They don't they don't know where to drill, you know, unless. So they have this dousing rod, which is just a metal like contraption. They like hold in front of them. It's not electronic. It's literally just metal rods.
Starting point is 02:48:15 And they use it to I think they call it water witching. Basically, they walk around and whenever it tips down, they're like, up drill here. This is where the water will be. And the guy that drilled my last well did that, did not find water. Yes. All right, all right, I had a similar experience.
Starting point is 02:48:31 I wasn't drilling for water. I had a pipe in the yard that went to the stable, and there's a hose bib in the stable that you can put a hose on. All right, cool. Well, somewhere along the way it burst, and you can see there was a little puddle in the stable that you put a hose on. All right, cool. Well, somewhere along the way it burst, and you could see there was like a little puddle in the ground that would just never go away,
Starting point is 02:48:50 and I'm like, clearly I am supplying it with water via the pipe that I know is there. So, but he doesn't know like exactly where it is or something, like it could have popped up downstream of the source, because the land is tilted. And he has like a coat hanger with a 90 degree bend in it. And it kind of like in his hand, sort of like swings on the, on the pivot point in his palm side to side. And he's using this to find out where to dig,
Starting point is 02:49:19 to find the source of the water. And I'm like, is this guy pulling my leg? Is he is he paying playing a trick on the stupid fucking city slicker? This guy is a hole digging expert. He this is what he does. He's my whole digging guy and and he's using this witching rod and he's like no no no it's real try it and he gives it to me and I'm using it and I'm like am I making it point at the water or is it this is like a Ouija board where like I can't quite figure out if it's a scam or not
Starting point is 02:49:48 and to know that Kyle's guy did the same thing. I don't know. I don't know. I Google guys. My dad said Wells put in before like twice Drilled and bored two different whole different says it used to be a common thing both times like different guy I think it's very common and I two different, a whole different system. It used to be a common thing. Both times, like different guys. I think it's very common. And I, it's, I doubt they- It could be we just don't understand the mechanism yet. No, that's not it.
Starting point is 02:50:13 They're looking for gravitational anomalies with a piece of steel. I don't know nearly enough to dispute whatever they'd be saying. I don't know enough to dispute it either. I'd be like, this, you can tell me anything. It's nonsense. I Googled it.
Starting point is 02:50:28 Anything underground, I'm like. And I Googled it now. And it says it's nonsense. It says it's not scientifically proven, right? But why did they all do it? Is everyone in the whole digging industry uneducated? This can't be. We spent like 600 years being like germs. What are you retarded? There's no proof of these things. So listen
Starting point is 02:50:50 Steven thinks tiny little mean people are making us sick. That's what he thinks Tiny little mean people living in your blood and on your skin that make you ill. Is that what you believe? No, no No, no, like that, you know no. You can see advancement in that way. That was like when RFK was talking about, he's like, no one had autism when I was a kid. And I'm like, there also wasn't germs when Abraham Lincoln was a kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:18 They literally, that was not a thing. And also Robert F. Kennedy ate like 100 women's pussies who all clearly had HPV and that's why he sounds like that. Yeah. That's why he's got that fucking voice that kind of cuts out every time you say. Yeah. Do you think it's from going down on women? I think that's a funny explanation.
Starting point is 02:51:41 So that's what I go for. It is funny that like nobody used to have autism. My father would be very insulted if you suggested he had autism. My grandpa is obsessed with model trains. But he ate the same dinner for 60 years. There's no way my grandpa is not autistic. He owns a train room. My father wore the same blue shirt to work for decades. It's like... No, no, no. He's not autistic. He just, so many cases of autism schedules, so many undiagnosed cases.
Starting point is 02:52:10 Oh, scheduling. Oh, this guy, and I'm sure by the same blue shirt, he did what I kind of tend to do. Where you buy like 10 of the same shirt. It wasn't the same shirt, right? No, no, no, no. It was a copy of the same shirt. Yeah, yeah. He would, are the same shoes? He'd find shoes he liked, he'd buy the store out and have them have the same sneakers.
Starting point is 02:52:33 Which also, by the way, I don't know if this has been addressed this episode yet, but Woody, I love the shirt. Thank you. I appreciate it. If I had known you would be rocking that, I would have worn one of mine, but. Are you a big Hawaiian guy?
Starting point is 02:52:47 You got a bunch of them? I got a little roster in my closet, but yeah. Yeah. I mean, when in Rome, like what are you gonna wear a regular t-shirt when you're on the beach? No, you gotta wear something a little flowy or a little. It's a good shirt. This shirt was nearly $10.
Starting point is 02:53:02 Close. You get it. Amazon? Okay. Amazon is like, This shirt was nearly $10. Close. Did you get it? Amazon? Okay. Amazon is like, you'll hear people particularly like commie types like ripping on Amazon, like it's destroying all these businesses. And it's like, brother, that's not serendipitous.
Starting point is 02:53:21 They're a better company and they deliver a better product in a better timeline and every single person who posts their shit and lists it on Amazon has to make sure that it's priced competitively with the infinite other listers, including all those like Bangladeshi shirt farms, like Amazon rules. Do you watch a lot of stuff on Amazon Prime anymore, Taylor? I have Amazon Prime, but I don't open it that much. So I use it a good bit for looking for movies and stuff. I bring it up because so they change their plan. So now even if you've got prime, they put ads on their programming.
Starting point is 02:53:58 They break in with these ad breaks and it costs $3 a month extra to remove the ads. And I resisted that for a while. But then I was watching quite a bit of content on there and it cost $3 a month extra to remove the ads and I resisted that for a while. But then I was watching like quite a bit of content on there and it was getting annoying in the middle of con air. So I was like, all right, take my $3. But while it was running ads, it would run an ad and then on the side of the screen,
Starting point is 02:54:16 it would be like click okay to like add to your cart because it's all tied in with Amazon and it's your Amazon account. So like the thing they're advertising, if you want it, you're just one or two clicks away from having it delivered to your door. What are they advertising? Because I haven't seen this yet. Maybe it runs the game. I was a little mad because the ads were so poorly targeted. I was getting
Starting point is 02:54:37 like cat food ads and like feminine hygiene products like like it was like this is the opposite of me it doesn't make any sense and you're interrupting my cape my cupcake cooking show here I'm watching I'm watching the and feminine hygiene. And they think I watch gay pornography. I think I pay the extra three bucks because like that's where I get most of my shows. Like when I record it. But Amazon. Yeah. Because pretty much everything's on there. But I'll pay the extra three bucks if that's what it takes. But actually at this point I wouldn't pay the extra three bucks because there's
Starting point is 02:55:24 no show or series on Amazon that is sucking it takes. But actually at this point, I wouldn't pay the extra three bucks because there's no show or series on Amazon that is sucking me in. There's nothing at least I'm aware of that I would really love. If you don't have the three bucks, just say it. Long way home. I gotta see it. I can't wait.
Starting point is 02:55:37 That's the motorcycle around the world people. Ewan McGregor, that's his name, right? Did I get it right? Yeah, yeah, I liked him. That was a OB1, right? Yeah, yeah, and Charlie Borman, his good friend for decades now. It's cool to see, like these two guys are genuinely friends
Starting point is 02:55:51 and they both love motorcycles and they ride around the world, it's dope. Okay, and I know they do the new Top Gear, which like- I didn't know that. Oh, Amazon does, I mean, okay. I thought we were not here. It's called the Great Race or the Great, the grand tour. That's what it's called. The grand tour. And even that, like,
Starting point is 02:56:10 I'm not going to actually sit down and watch any episodes of it. I only like what they have challenges to go. Are they still making it? Yeah. Uh, every once in a while I'll go on Amazon prime. And it'll be like, watch the, uh, the top gear boys basically do another journey across the world. But other than that, no. And they're also like getting pretty old. I think all of them are in their sixties.
Starting point is 02:56:33 What's this Kyle? What have you linked? Or what is Chris? That's me. Order place. Thanks. The same shirt. I gave him a link to my shirt. same shirt. I gave him a link to my shirt. I mean, you just, you just throw away 8 99 like that. You know what, when you got it like that, you got to like that.
Starting point is 02:56:58 You see a deal you can't pass up. I got three bucks. I can throw it Amazon. I got nine bucks for this. Yeah. It's just all the streaming services. Don't, none of them have a excellent series right now that I want to get invested in. I used a, Oh, this would infuriate Kyle. I went on Netflix cause I still have it because I'm fucking retarded. And five months ago I was like, I want to have Seinfeld on my TV again. And so I signed up for Netflix again. So it was largely a Seinfeld machine, but then I was like, I want to have Seinfeld on my TV again. And so I signed up for Netflix again. So it was largely a Seinfeld machine.
Starting point is 02:57:28 But then I was like, oh yeah, they also have good stuff like Ozark, which I still maintain is the best show they made as an Amazon original ever. Ozark rocked. And I just kind of had that in the background during the day. Like I just set Ozark on and I'm doing my thing and I see it and I've watched it before and so it's not upsetting for me to have to walk away or take a call or whatever. And my girlfriend comes over one night, maybe two weeks ago and I have like season, by this point it's like season two of Ozark is playing and she sits down and we're on the couch and Ozark's on and I'm like,
Starting point is 02:58:09 you know, I can restart this show for you. And she's like, no, no, what's happening right now is really interesting. I want to see what happens. And I was like, but babe, you don't know any of the characters or any of their motivations. So why would you care about this? Like, why would, why would you care if they get a casino set up or not? Because you don't know who these people are or what's at stake. And she was doing the chick thing where it's fucking 9 15 at night. And she's like falling asleep on my thigh. Be like, no, no, leave it on, leave it on. And I'm like, I promise you'll like it more if we start from the beginning. And she's like, no, no, I want to see if they get the casino.
Starting point is 02:58:45 And so then she watches like. The equivalent of like three episodes in season two, an episode or two in season three and then like the premiere of season four. And so she's asking things like, so who's this guy? And I'm like. That's Navarro. He's the cartel leader who they're indebted to in this entire situation. And she's like, oh, okay. And I'm like, can I please restart it for you? But I'd be so happy to rewatch the whole thing with you, as long as you're invested too. And I won't play anymore while you're not here. We'll
Starting point is 02:59:23 watch it together. And she's like, no, no, I just really want to see what the what's happening. I just want to see what's happening next. That was like me like one of the dumbest things I've ever done was back when the Breaking Bad finale aired, like the series finale. I had only been like two or three seasons in it was like, I think I was like a sophomore in high school. And everyone was talking about it so much. So I'm like, I need to watch this tonight. So I watched it with my friend over Skype. And I was like a sophomore in high school and everyone was talking about it so much. So I'm like, I need to watch this tonight.
Starting point is 02:59:46 So I watched it with my friend over Skype and I was like, who the fuck is Lydia? Where did these Nazis come from? What's going on? I don't know anything that's happening. And then I finally like two years ago, like finished the series and I'm like, oh, okay. Everything makes sense now.
Starting point is 03:00:02 Yeah. But I'm like, Why did I do that? It was such a dumb thing that I could have waited a week and actually watched the show Mm-hmm, it ruins it for yourself And so now she can't enjoy Ozark because she's already seen a couple key characters die and when they die, she's like who's this? So unbelievably important Still need to finish better call Saul like that's I'm like, this guy is so unbelievably important to the- I still need to finish Better Call Saul.
Starting point is 03:00:27 Like that's one- it was getting to the point where it's like, alright, he's kinda becoming more of a piece of shit, he's getting closer to Saul, and I'm like, I- this is upsetting. He kinda starts- So I don't watch- As a piece of shit, and it's really only his opportunity level that changes over time. No, no, no. He tried that. And so his crazy brother, he tried for fucking three seconds and then he immediately reverted to it.
Starting point is 03:00:53 And so like his, what's funny is his brother, that crazy guy with the fucking tinfoil coat that like has to sit in his house, all of his aspersions casted at his brother. Like you don't want to give him a law degree. He's going to help criminals. He's going to help bad people. He's a bad guy. He's not an opportunity with the machine. He has no loyalty to the sun roof. He defecated. He gave him a sunrise or whatever it was called. And like, it was funny because when Chuck was freaking out like that, you're like, this guy's a crazy old man.
Starting point is 03:01:26 But all of the things he levied at Jimmy were correct. Like that was how he used to. Could you not have guided him into a better direction? Like he really set him up for failure. I think it's half and half. Like I think like to a certain extent, he's kind of a prick, but also it's like, he did kind of prove to be also it's like he did kind of prove to be everything that Chuck said he was but also he could have been better like
Starting point is 03:01:52 the whole thing with um what's a Howard like when he was like I had to like tell Jimmy like no you actually can't be on this case and then you find out later that it was Chuck that told Howard that like, don't hire Jimmy. So it's like, it's, I think it goes both ways. Howard I felt bad for. Because Howard was like the only guy trying to run a successful law firm amidst all these like, differing allegiances, alliances and and backdoor deals. Like Howard was the guy who's like, we really got to get our law firm back on track and then you have a crazy guy wearing a
Starting point is 03:02:30 tinfoil coat and another guy who's actively trying to subvert everything about the law firm that Howard's trying to run because he's bitter. Jimmy doesn't lose me until they start being awful to Howard because I always saw Howard as a good guy and not only a good guy but a guy who clearly had probably had some troubles that were of his own making and he was like he was improving himself as a person that was a big part of his character was his self improvement the maybe Buddhism and he was all he was working on himself and and well I won't spoil it too badly then but but to watch Jimmy like take Howard down and and it was It's like that guy doesn't deserve that
Starting point is 03:03:10 That's yeah, that guy's not your friend But he's not your enemy either and then that was where Jimmy loses me where he everybody's an enemy Who's not who stands in his way at a certain point then like that? I like every losing me when he lost his hair like at a certain point, didn't like that. I like that he was losing me when he lost his hair. Like, clearly I think Vince Gilligan is the guy who created both shows, right? Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. And it does seem somewhat intentional that in Breaking Bad
Starting point is 03:03:36 he put Skylar in there and she is the most not ride or die bitch ever, constantly questioning Walt and his motivations and everything. and some of it was justified let's be fair, but then you get to better call Saul and Jimmy's bitch is like the most ride or die Kim rules She's like what do you fucking need Jimmy and he's like I need you to do this I need you to pretend this and I need you to lie about this and she's like anything else I need you to pretend this and I need you to lie about this and she's like anything else
Starting point is 03:04:14 Back when Breaking Bad was airing everyone is like scholar this fucking con and then like now like people looking back They're like Walt He he kind of also was the devil Like once he yeah if they didn't have that whole subplot of him being able to get infinite money from gray matter, then Skylar would have seemed so much worse. But the fact she had that knowledge of like, Hey man, at any point you could just ask your billionaire friends and they would give you 20 million to take care of this. Like come on. Like it wasn't that it was, it was that they would give you 20 million to take care of this. Like, come on. It was that they would have like,
Starting point is 03:04:49 but he's too proud for that. And that company was, I suppose so. But it's a character a lot of people have. And he saw a way to do it himself without begging. I remember when Walt Jr. set up that charity fund, how he's like, my son, people are fucking donating for their, for, did you see that people are donating to help?
Starting point is 03:05:13 He's like, I had been Walt's son. I'd have been so ride or die. What do you need? What do you need? Can you get me in the cartel? Like, what do you need dad? Nobody suspects the cerebral palsy Tweet where someone is like it was it was a meme of Him being like son. I want to give you ten million dollars and he's like dad kill yourself and then it was the The billionaire friends and they're like, hey, it's your 18th birthday. I want to give you 10 million bucks. And he's like, thank you. Great matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:48 Walt Jr. was a very funny character because of how distanced he was from it until. That's something I liked about the Ozark Breaking Bad comparison, which has been made before. But like in Breaking Bad, it's like season five, episode six, like almost the end. And Walt Jr's like, wait, you're telling me that dad was selling methamphetamines for money?
Starting point is 03:06:11 And it's like- Your impression is too good. It's like, are you? And then fucking in Ozark, episode three, Marty is just like, Jonah, Charlotte, we're laundering money for the cartel. Keep it cool. Keep it chill.
Starting point is 03:06:29 Don't tell your friends it's cool. And I liked that. And Jonah's like, I can do one better. I'm going to update the way that we do this. I'm actually going to launder myself. And then I love that part of it where they catch Jonah for laundering money. And the mom is like, you're out of control. This is so dangerous. Do you not understand it?
Starting point is 03:06:50 And Marty's just kind of like smiling and she's like, Marty, don't sit there like you're proud of your son for laundering so well. And he's like, I can't help it. I'm so proud of him for being so hyper competent in this very difficult world that I've set him up in. Is there a better original Amazon, or I'm sorry, Netflix show than Ozark? Is there? Because for me, that's got to be number one. By far. Nothing's like the Ozark. Stranger Things had a really strong start. I was so into season one of Stranger Things. Those kids are my age now.
Starting point is 03:07:25 Yeah, that's the thing. The final season, I think, is they filmed it already and it comes out soonish, maybe in the fall. And those kids are like adults now. Like Millie Bobby Brown, I think, is 11. The little girl with... She used to be a little girl with the shaved head. Oh, she was 11. Yeah, yeah. Now she's like posting scantily clad photos on the internet and like showing her boobs and stuff. Like she's an adult, like dirty lady, married woman.
Starting point is 03:07:55 She's 21 now, which I think only a couple of years are meant to have passed in that show timeline. Right. Between the beginning. I don't watch the show anymore. I just remember early on on it was great. And it doesn't look right. I've watched it all. I've seen it all.
Starting point is 03:08:09 And yeah, she's older than she's supposed to be. Do you see this thing I linked? So Felix Baumgartner, he's the, that skydiver that fell faster than the speed of sound. He did that. I think he did the Red Bull jump too, maybe. He did. He died that. I think he did the Red Bull jump to maybe he died today. No. RIP.
Starting point is 03:08:29 Extreme athlete bomb gardener. The first let's see. I don't know what happened, but I'm going to guess here. More than a decade. He was killed in a crash Thursday along the eastern coast of Italy, according to an official. Looks like just a car accident. Oh, that's lame.
Starting point is 03:08:43 I thought. See, I thought when I first opened this article that he died doing a stunt, but just a pedestrian car crash. Oh, I thought, yeah, I thought he did. He died doing something intense. No, it couldn't have been just a. Pedestrian car crash. What am I doing something?
Starting point is 03:09:01 The Italian firefighters who responded said a paraglider crashed into the side of a swimming pool. firefighters who responded said a paraglider crashed into the side of a swimming pool. OK, so he was paragliding. And that's how he died. He's getting close to home. Why did he hit a swimming pool? Did he drown? I swear to God, all these fucking paragraph,
Starting point is 03:09:18 everyone's afraid of the ground. It's the water. The water is what kills people. It's the number one cause of death in paragliding. They were flying through the sky in a thingamajig. I'm gonna look for that. He's just fucking soaring, dude. Well, falling into the water with the thingamajig tied to you, that's the problem.
Starting point is 03:09:35 Making some things up here. But a pool, you can grab the edge. You know, I don't know. The article's bad. That was AP, but they didn't say that when I at least right not right now it said the paragliding part, but I didn't see anything about the The article you linked it's the second paragraph Well, that sucks. He jumped from space
Starting point is 03:09:59 All the way to the okay. Well, it was it was bullshit. It was let's be real It wasn't like hardcore space, but it was the lowest level that included in the definition of space Yeah, I guess so. It was pretty cool. I didn't I wasn't impressed with his skydive at all We any of us could have done that He could have gone unconscious and there's a system that pulls his shoot for him. He literally is just So I could have done it? Anyone can do it. A box could have done it. A cat could have done it. I'm getting kind of tired of like people saying they're going to space and they're not in space, you know?
Starting point is 03:10:34 I agree. I don't like that Katy Perry thing where they're like, we're going to space. And it's like, you're going to the lowest, you're going one micrometer above the lowest definition of space. And I bet if you ask some astronaut or some like astronomer about that level of space, they'd be like, Oh yeah, well, to me, that's not even space. It's kind of like you can see fucking clouds and shit. Like you can, like you, you can see the definition on them. You can see that would be ridiculous. You got to get that moon base.
Starting point is 03:11:02 We got to get the moon base, bro. If he can send himself from the moon base back here, I'd be impressed. I've been bouncing from article to article. He definitely died in the paragliding accident. They said he hit the side of a pool. I don't know if that's the outside or the inside, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:11:16 And they also said he injured a female hotel employee in the garage. Yeah, I don't know how injured. I can't find any details on that. Imagine going about your day, bringing some towels. I'm a better paraglider than this dude. Clearly, you're living.
Starting point is 03:11:30 Right? You're already working at a hotel and then the propellers just eat you up. No, that's paramotoring. I'm pretty sure. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, this guy was gliding. And I always-
Starting point is 03:11:41 He got rock kicked by an Italian man going 100 miles an hour. I always thought the funnier skydive was because Red Bull sponsored Felix to do the highest ever skydive. And then Slim Jim sponsored some guy to do the lowest ever. That checks out. It was like four inches above the ground. And they just like this and they just drop him. And then... Did he have a shoe?
Starting point is 03:12:05 Yeah. And he pulled it afterward after he landed. And that's funny. And that's a very like flimsy thing to do to be like, yeah, let's look at your fucking gay ass accomplishment and make a joke. Four inches. Were there. I could do it. Has there been another daredevil besides oranges is pretty long. His son.
Starting point is 03:12:24 Rodney was kind of bitch made though. He, I remember Fox, Fox was, uh, broadcasting his live jump over the snake river Canyon when I was a kid and like the wind got bad and he was like, no jump. And I was like, we just watched 40 minutes of buildup on this live show. And every time they would, he would be like revving the bike. They'd be talking about how dangerous it was. They their helicopter views of the canyon and he didn't jump Evil Knievel would have jumped like ice that guy would got hurt So bad his crashes are better than when he makes it those old evil can eat can evil tapes. I like that
Starting point is 03:12:57 Mm-hmm. So I've got this so fresh in my head. I remember As I instructed newer pilots and even learned myself, it's a landmark achievement almost the first time you look at the conditions and say, no, this is especially true paragliding. Cause you're on the mountain. You want some wind, but not too much wind, et cetera. This guy who died posted on Instagram, it's too windy. And then he changed
Starting point is 03:13:25 his mind and he launched and now he's dead because he didn't say no and we're talking about Robbie Knievel who just said it's too windy and I'm like, that might be the mark of a he had a bad stunt man but a good I think Robbie was I think it's been I was twelve I think at the time roughly, I think Robbie was, I think it's been, I was 12, I think at the time roughly, but I think he was jumping the Snake River Canyon. Might not have even been a motorcycle. It might've been some homemade rocket ship that they had made.
Starting point is 03:13:54 It was what he was doing. But the fact that Evil Can Evil fell all those times and broke every bone in his body, when he would do a jump, you didn't know if he was gonna make it or not. And that made it much more exciting to watch because somebody that makes it every time, you stop watching after the third or fourth jump. But if you think he might fucking eat it, I'm watching. You guys see that jump in, was it Somerset, Kentucky,
Starting point is 03:14:20 over the fountain? It was the- Yes. Yeah. I don't think anyone there had like a grasp over the fountain. It was the yes. Yeah, it. I don't think anyone there had like a grasp on like the proper way to do anything, because one, that guy almost certainly there's a disc in his back that's not where it should be. And then also they have like barricades set up.
Starting point is 03:14:41 They almost killed people on the sideline. It was the general lead jump, I think. Was it a car? Yeah, it was a car. It was the, what's the, what's the- Thux of Hazzard. Yeah, it was that car. And they took a ramp and it wasn't like,
Starting point is 03:14:55 you know how most jumps you take a ramp and then you land on a ramp? Mm-hmm. There was no second ramp. It was, it was- They just landed on the flats? Yeah, you could see the guy in the car. It was it was just landed on the flats. Yeah. You could see the guy in the car. He was like, oh, fuck. Like when you landed, it was not.
Starting point is 03:15:11 They should not have done this. And I was like looking in every video I saw, I was looking. I'm like, there are no cops anywhere that are keeping this operation in check. And I wish we could show this. We can. It's surely copyrighted. But everything he's saying is true.
Starting point is 03:15:30 It looked like a jump you would see in the Dukes of Hazzard. It is right in line with the sort of stunts they had. Also I think the first video I saw, it was people standing on a roof where everyone was on the edge of the roof. That was my first thing. I'm like, am I watching like an Instagram reel where someone's going to die? Cause that's where most Instagram reels lead that come on my feed. And then I saw the jump and I'm like, Oh my God.
Starting point is 03:15:56 Yeah. And it's looking like here, how do you think Robbie Knievel died? I'm going to say heart attack. Drugs. Pancreatic cancer. So that's pretty intense. Went out like a bitch. He was an alcoholic.
Starting point is 03:16:12 You know what? Here's what I say to that. If I'm Robbie Knievel, right? I get pancreatic cancer. When it gets bad, when my quality of life lowers significantly, that's when the rocket ship they've been building for the last two years is ready to go for its last ride. 100%, that's when you go ballsail. Excuse me, no parachute please.
Starting point is 03:16:33 Where's when you jumped the fountain? I'm going out like a champ. You know, we'd go higher if we weren't way down by this parachute. Cause pancreatic cancer is one of those that I haven't figured out. Robbie, you forgot your helmet. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 03:16:50 Some walking load. That's how I went out of them. Robbie Knievel. And I'm kind of embarrassed for him that he went out like that. This evil is a general lead jump. I think it may they might have done it in Hazard County. I know they did in Kentucky, but that was a summer set. Dude, if I was a daredevil and I had pancreatic cancer, which is like the kind that you can't you're going to die like there's you have no shot. I would have had them air drop me over one of our global enemies. And so like, I would have with my body, pancreatic cancer and all hit Putin. Like I physically would have hit him or some Iranian mullah or whoever our enemy is. They drop me and then I kind of steer in and then I just fucking boom right into him. And then everyone's like, wow, what a successful stunt.
Starting point is 03:17:40 And Taylor's a hero for taking out Vladimir Putin. For my next start would go will be a 357 Magnum in my mouth. Walked inside for a second. I guess I'm just going to impale myself on this goofy Russian spire. And he landed inside of a pool. Yeah, I survived. That'd be the worst possible thing. They'd lock my ass up.
Starting point is 03:18:07 But you can try to kill Putin. Trying to link this. Is it possible that's where they filmed the Dukes of hazards or do they just totally ignore the heritage of hazard County? I think they just ignored it. I don't know. I don't know how this jump began or whatever. The driver's a bad-ass though, because Chris is right. This does not look like a Hollywood jump. It looks like a Kentucky jump. Which if you saw the video, like what I was saying, like he kind of goes into the barricade a little bit and guys are like jumping out of the way and they're like, Jesus fucking
Starting point is 03:18:37 Christ. Yeah. Yeah. There was definitely danger there and he could have hit that fountain. He could have hit that fucking fountain. That would have been nuts. He got so high I Guess hazard County with two Z's is not a real place
Starting point is 03:18:51 So I'll cut them a little slack on it's not a real to film it I genuinely have always believed there was a real hazard County in Kentucky. There is with one Z on in Kentucky, okay There is with onesie on Kentucky. Okay. All right. So, okay. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:19:07 It just kind of came out of nowhere. Like I didn't see any planning for this whatsoever on the internet. I was like an anniversary or something. Okay. That makes sense. I don't know. No, that's a show that can never come back. Did the Johnny Knoxville movie in like the early 2000s, maybe
Starting point is 03:19:26 040506. And even in that movie, one of those scenes, they're getting people throwing bottles at the General League because it's got the Confederate flag painted on the top. They're like, why aren't everybody mad? Yeah, they should stay true to it. But they should prioritize staying truer to the entire top of the car as a Confederate flag. Yeah. They're just proud of their heritage. See, Kyle, you got to rep for them. You too? In St. Louis? Well, I don't know. Where did Missouri fall in the Civil War? We were split. St. Louis was north, southern Missouri was south. And so I've got family on.
Starting point is 03:20:10 I searched names in the Civil War database and some different family names and we were split. There were some of us on both sides of it, which I guess makes sense in Missouri, one of the split states. I would never do that. Like, can you imagine if there was a real civil war and like my brother is gonna fight for the North, I'm like, I'm not gonna go fight Mikey.
Starting point is 03:20:32 Like, I can't imagine. Yeah, it would depend on who my first family member was. If my first family member was like, I'm gonna go fight for the South or the North, I would not join the other side. I'd be like, I don't wanna meet him. Okay, the light blue is split obviously. or the north, I would not join the other side. I'd be like, I don't want to meet him. Okay, the light blue is split, obviously.
Starting point is 03:20:47 Yeah. I didn't know some of those were split. I think maybe to a lesser degree with Kentucky there. Right? Yeah. And that's West Virginia. Heyler, have you guys been getting really bad rain and flooding?
Starting point is 03:21:02 Because you're close to Illinois. Huge amounts of rain, yeah. But I'm in a hilly area and so the flooding doesn't hit me too hard but there have been floods around like in the lower. We've been getting a shit ton here. Okay, where are you at again? Northern Illinois. Oh okay, so you're closer to Chicago I would guess. Yeah. You're Blackhawks fan? They're pretty cool right they're the worst team in the NHL I don't give a shit right answer he was
Starting point is 03:21:35 trying to coax you I also don't give a shit about the Blues so that's fair you don't live here you don't have to my movers were asked he kept asking like about my sports team affiliations is like you like this team. And if I liked him, he was so happy. I was like, yeah, yeah, I love UGA. I'm from pretty close to Athens and always, of course, they're a local team and they're usually number one or two in the country. So big UGA fan. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, me too. What about the Falcons? I'm like, I'll never forgive the Falcons from their loss to the Patriots. That was disgraceful and humiliating.
Starting point is 03:22:07 And I had to sit there with my friends and watch it happen. I said that to him and he was like, Oh, I like the Falcons. Like I offended him or something. He went through like four different fucking teams. And I at the end, I was just lying. Yeah. Yeah. The Cubs. Yeah. I was going to say, once you figure out the right answers, give them. Yeah. See, you see The Cubs. Yeah. I was going to say, once you figure out the right answers, give him. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:22:29 See, you see throwing the Braves out there. Oh, because you said you're wearing a Braves Jersey. They were. That's what brought. Yeah. They were. They were dying for the Braves. All of them were massive Braves fans. They were bringing up player names and fucking talking about lineups. And I was like, I don't know, dude, Bobby Cox only won one championship, went to the playoffs 14 years straight, maybe 15. Pretty humiliating. He's like, yes. You gotta give him credit for getting there, you know, you get there 14 times that means
Starting point is 03:23:03 Doesn't mean anything and I literally went no, I want a ring or nothing at all. And he's like, that's not how I feel. You're missing a couch over there. I think you want to put the guy in the back. I'm not shooting the shit anymore. Like, fuck the Braves. Fuck the Braves. Did I care so little about this ball? And I'm alone here because everyone's a fucking card.
Starting point is 03:23:22 You about to ask how the Braves are doing? The Braves are doing bad, I think. And I, this is like a weekend to go. I got given free tickets to go to the Cardinals Braves game. Two tickets, I got them from someone who was like, I can't even give these away. We're out of town. Do you just want to take them?
Starting point is 03:23:43 You know, I've had a couple of people, a couple other business people, partners turn them down. So you guys want them. And I was like, I mean, I guess so. And this was a month and a half ago. And then Sunday came about or maybe it was last Saturday where the Cardinals were playing the Braves. And my girlfriend and I woke up in the morning, we were having coffee, we were hanging out. And then it got to be like noon. And she was like, isn't this the day that we're supposed to go to the Cardinals game? And I was like, ah, fuck. Yeah, maybe it is. And so I opened up the baseball.com app and I saw the tickets. And I was like, so do you want to go to the Cardinals game? And she was like, no, not really. And I was like, all right, well, how about we, we decide we either
Starting point is 03:24:26 go to lunch, get a bunch of apps, nice spread, come back here, take care of a few things at home, not top us. It wasn't that style of place. And, or we go, we drive 40 minutes to the Cardinals game, hang out there for six innings and then drive back in our seats were like right in the sun and both of us were like, yeah, I guess I'm not too upset missing the Cardinals game. If we want to see something, we'll turn it on TV. And so we had tickets and skipped the Cardinals game. That's how little we care about the card. I know someone I can go any time I want and get pretty good tickets. I have no interest. Baseball sucks.
Starting point is 03:25:05 It's not fun to watch. It doesn't suck. It's great to watch. It's a beautiful game. It's not fun to watch, dude. It's not fun to watch. They changed the rules. It's different than it used to be, but I can't support a franchise full of fucking losers.
Starting point is 03:25:15 I just looked up how the Braves were doing and not great. They're second from the bottom of the division. However, the Phillies are at the top of the division. So now I'm thinking, well, what's more offensive? A Braves jersey or a Phillies jersey? Which one should I show up with next week? And then I get to thinking, I'll never find one of these shirts for $8.99.
Starting point is 03:25:37 No. No. They're a little pricy. Dude, it's just baseball. We're staying with this, baby. Baseball is out of their fucking mind that a team can have a record, like the Houston Astros, just pick them on here,
Starting point is 03:25:50 of 56 and 40, and they're halfway through the season. That's insane. They've played 106 games and they have 80 more to go. How can you not be in it, but imagine if hockey did that, how happy you would be? The players would die. They couldn't play that many games. You would have to shift. You would do more shifting people around. You wouldn't play as many minutes per game. You need more players on each team. And frankly, I don't know anything about hockey, but I think when you do that,
Starting point is 03:26:18 you introduce a different style of play, like different styles of play are better, like putting people in for fewer amounts of time having them go harder. Try style, I think is what would take over. It 82 games is enough. There's already a bit of a mid season sort of, okay. Why are we still like, what are we doing? Does this baseball has double headers? You got to keep in mind or they'll play,
Starting point is 03:26:40 they'll play, they'll play double headers and then another game the next day. Sometimes like the sign of a strenuous sport. They'll play double headers and then another game the next day sometimes. The sign of a strenuous sport. Yeah, Woody is right about hockey. If they had a game where it was like, oh, Philly's got to play St. Louis, and then four hours from now Philly has to play New York, everyone would be like, this is ridiculous. What?
Starting point is 03:27:02 They're going to be beat up from their game against St. Louis and then they have to immediately stay dressed up and play New York. Like that's, that's just something you couldn't do in other sports. I think football is the only one I kind of care about. And my brother, he's the actual football fan. Yeah. I mean, that's just kind of the one. That's the one that's here. They were pretty good. Well, I don't know with Northern Illinois because if you're super far North Illinois, some people are Green Bay, you know,
Starting point is 03:27:30 you get these people. Oh, there's, there's bleep through. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, and so he kind of just gives me all the anecdotes. Like I think I got a bear shirt from old Navy and I was like, okay, that's, that's the team. And I wore it to when I was applying for a gym membership
Starting point is 03:27:48 and he was like, ah, the Bears, huh? And I was like. I guess so, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if you watch college ball at all, but that's I definitely prefer it to to like professional football, I think. Maybe and I don't think it's just because again my home team is usually number one or number two in the country these days by the way like boys I mean they're young men okay they're young men everybody's legal
Starting point is 03:28:16 everybody's legal here all right so they're in their mid-twenties shaming over here the kink shaming over here the Bulldogsink shaming over here. The Bulldogs are a bunch of good looking boys. All right. Back 26 years old. Absolutely. Well, he was like that. That's two, that's two quarterbacks back. Okay. We've got young boys coming in to throw the ball around it. Don't worry. Okay. This recruiting class has been extraordinary. Like I think Georgia, either has the number one or the number two recruiting class this year on top of everything else that's going well for them.
Starting point is 03:28:43 If they can just get their players to stop going 120 miles an hour through Athens, Georgia and track hawks that that's Atlanta driving for you. That's Athens. No, Athens is like 40, maybe an hour and a half from Atlanta. And it's a smaller college town. It is not the place to be going 95 miles an hour, much less some of the speeding tickets they've got are absurd. Like, like well over a hundred because they all have that happening. Yeah. It it's been a minute, but I heard of one like a few months back. Someone got a DUI or a speeding charge.
Starting point is 03:29:20 That was crazy. What's the money that they get now for playing college ball? NIL? Yes. Yeah, yeah. That money has now they all have cars and now they all have fast cars. Nobody's getting a Volvo. I don't know if you've seen like anytime you see like Georgia State Police like trying to take a car out they will kill as many people as they need to pull that car over. Not if they're on the team. I love that you know they wave them on.
Starting point is 03:29:48 I love that you know this because it's true. So different police forces all over the country. It's called like State Boys with three Z's. That's the YouTube channel for Jesus Christ, Georgia State Patrol. And you can tell that their tactics are different because like I watch a lot of police chases and sometimes they'll be like, ah, we're not allowed to pit in this situation. Oh, he's in heavy traffic. We have to call off the chase.
Starting point is 03:30:13 There's a lot of that, like rules and regulations on how to pursue or take out a fleeing vehicle. Georgia State Patrol, there's a famous clip I saw on Reddit one time. He like crashes into the car, pits him out, and then the cop jumps out of the car and like runs and like like slides across the bad guy's hood while pointing a gun. He ends up in a kneeling position on the bad guy's hood, pointing through the windshield, screaming at him the same. And he just had pitted him. It was like, oh, my God, they've got real like super cops working for the Georgia patrol
Starting point is 03:30:45 Oh fuck with them. I saw on Twitter. Um, apparently Emma Watson has gotten like her Yeah, I don't know how many driving violations she's gotten more in her audios three. Yeah, and I think she was driving like it wasn't even that fast like it wasn't that much over the speed I saw 38 in a 30 in the tweet. Yeah. And people were like, if you send anyone from Atlanta over to the UK, they will be labeled a terrorist at this point.
Starting point is 03:31:15 Yeah, they don't pull you over for speeding on the highways in and around Atlanta. There is seemingly no speed limit. I'm sure if you're going 150 or something, they'd stop you, but feel free to do 100. Like absolutely feel free to do a hundred. No one will bat an eye Well, that's like going to like whenever I go to O'Hare here It's like you see it's not only people speeding at a level where I'm like goddamn But like it is the worst car you've ever seen it is at least 30 years old and I'm like, how are you even doing this?
Starting point is 03:31:46 right now? Atlanta's got a lot of supercars in it. There's a lot of money in Atlanta and a lot of money that gets flaunted in Atlanta too. I think there's a lot of like, whenever you look up where a famous black person lives, it's here, like lots of rappers have houses here. And so you'll, if I'm driving around on the interstate, I'll see all sorts of, I don't even know what they are
Starting point is 03:32:05 There's they're Ferraris and Lamborghinis and Porsches of every of every kind. It's pretty cool. But I've been past I've been driving a hundred and been passed by stuff that went Because you don't know it's where you feel like that wind Where you kind of oh absolutely tiny bit. Oh yeah, I got passed by a motorcycle one night driving home to my house in Atlanta from my dad's place and I was already like half asleep and I was going high 80s for sure on cruise control just zoned out and he went past me so fast he approached me so fast I never saw him coming from behind me which normally I'm checking my surroundings pretty good and when he he went past, it made a scary noise
Starting point is 03:32:46 and he disappeared and within a second, he was going so fast. He was going high 100s. And it's like, man, if I had changed lanes at the wrong time, he'd have exploded into the back of my car like a Patriot fucking missile. Like it would have been the end of the world for both of us.
Starting point is 03:33:02 That, I feel like that's one of the most boomer things emerging in me is motorcyclists going a million miles an hour right next to you. And you see them just is like in my head, I'm like, what the hell are you doing? Together, we're like, I know people say that that like they're like, it's just like, oh, they're just gonna be the only ones that die. But then like you see them slam into a Honda Odyssey and you're like, oh, that actually did tear that van in half.
Starting point is 03:33:34 Oh shit, it did kill that kid. Wow. Yeah, they're pretty wild. I'm fine with the motorcyclists. It's the cyclists. It's the cyclists. Get off the road. The cyclists going 100 miles an hour. We're all Americans. And so we all hate cyclists, it's the cyclists, the cyclists get off the road. The cyclists going 100 miles.
Starting point is 03:33:45 We're all Americans. And so we all hate cyclists and we get we get guff. We get pushback from people who live in like the Netherlands. They're like, oh, I don't understand. Why don't you just back to the store that is point four miles away in the clearly designated lane where the speed limit for cars and automobiles is four. And then you get there and you bring your groceries back and it's like, shut the fuck up. Do you understand how tiny your country is?
Starting point is 03:34:14 Your country is a County in my state. I went on the true size just the other day because I was like, how big is Missouri compared to a lot of European countries? Missouri is like as big as the UK. Like it's, it is so little over there. And so when they give us guff and I love our European bros, but when you guys give us guff over the bicycle thing, get fucking real. You have no clue how giant our country is. Me, Kyle and Woody's States and Chris's state all put together if Georgia Missouri North
Starting point is 03:34:51 Carolina and Illinois formed a contingent and were magically brought together like Thanos would we would be the largest country in Europe by a huge amount excluding Russia obviously Russia you, they're, they're the continents, but it's insane how big of a country we are dragging. Missouri on the map right now, bigger than that. A lot bigger than the Nailovans, a lot bigger than Belgium, smaller, but not by a ton. Germany bigger than Austria, bigger than Slovenia, bigger than Switzerland.
Starting point is 03:35:26 A good bit smaller than Italy. Also, my city recently implemented bike lanes everywhere and it is the most embarrassing attempt at getting bikers safe. They didn't expand the roads, they just put markers on the roads, be like, a bike here and it's in the lane. I'm like, this is not safe. No, it's not. On the motorcylists?
Starting point is 03:35:50 So fast motorcyclists don't bother me. It's like, and then there's like, oh, man, I guess they're already gone, right? Not a problem. Loud exhausts, they annoy the heck out of me. If they're going fast and they startle me, I don't like that. I feel like, I don't know,
Starting point is 03:36:06 you just jump scared me for no reason. I'm just here driving like a regular person and you're going 130 with a loud exhaust, heck you. It's rude. Yeah, or just loud exhaust that you're around too long, like at a red light, also rude. So I don't mind the loud exhaust in public, like when I'm driving around.
Starting point is 03:36:22 What I hate, this is not my last house, but the house I lived at like before that, there was some jabroni that every morning when he went to work, he would just, as soon as he like turned out of the neighborhood and got onto the highway, he would floor it. He would floor it. And I don't know what he drove.
Starting point is 03:36:39 It sounded like a jacked up pickup truck with like loud exhaust. It would just roar and you'd hear him go through every fucking gear until he was out of earshot. And I mean, it was it sounded like an airplane. It sounded like an airplane going overhead. It was so fucking loud. Was it a looking thing? It was a car.
Starting point is 03:36:57 It was a car. I never saw it. It was something I never saw him. This would happen in the blackness of morning at 5 a.m He clearly had some welding jobs to get to and he did I was just gonna say anybody else I had a neighbor a year Time I had a neighbor that was definitely a welder that went to work at 5 a.m. And he had a diesel truck He would warm up in the morning
Starting point is 03:37:22 And I'm like Jesus this shit's been running for 30 minutes. It was the loudest thing. It woke me up every morning. It's so rude. Like be conscious of how loud your fucking automobile is, motorcycle or car, and don't be a douche bag about it. And also don't ride your fucking two wheel bike on, like I live in an area where there's a lot of
Starting point is 03:37:45 windy roads through hills and woods. And there are cyclists who choose to cycle on this road. And it's a two lane road. It's like going through hills and things. And so when they decide that they want to be the, you know, the main character, and a little life simulator, it's like, do you realize how many people are backed up behind you? Because if we did what was morally justified right now, we plow, I would push you over the side of a hill and you'd fall 5000 feet to your death. You'd smash into a bunch of trees. It's like you, you are a scumbag. Go somewhere that bikes are allowed and ride your
Starting point is 03:38:23 fucking bike. Because I know you're not heading to an American grocery store to pick up what a baguette you fucking fruit. Fuck you. Fuck you. Get the fuck out of our country. If you're going to do this shit. Get a car. It's a car country. Born in Missouri. Midwesterners. And they and I don't want them here. Immigrants don't buy $7,000 bicycles and put spandex on them right around. That's a white man thing.
Starting point is 03:38:58 This is a really bad time. My critique had nothing to do with immigrants. I want those, either as white as they are. I want them out of the country. This is a bad time to bring this up, but I did buy a bicycle last week that I've been riding around my neighborhood. Yo!
Starting point is 03:39:14 What'd you get, what'd you get? I don't know. You don't know what kind of bike you got? Blue. I went to a local bike store and I said, I want to ride around my neighborhood, go pick up coffee in the morning. as Starbucks had opened up in my neighborhood and He showed me one. He said you should get that one and I'm like, okay, and I got it
Starting point is 03:39:35 Hmm. Does it have gears? Yes. How much was it? Only like five something okay that gives me that gives us a better scale of like what you did because yeah bikes get Ridiculous in a mountain bike style thing. No, it's got thin wheels Because I was looking at the mountain bike and I'm like that looks cool and he's like are you gonna be Going on any mountains and I'm like No Plan to mostly bother people in traffic. Oh, this is Actually, there's this podcast. I was thinking about pissing off one of the
Starting point is 03:40:11 Thinking I'm a 30 year old man But I'd love to experience once again what it's like to be to an outsource all responsibility for my safety onto my surroundings Really like well prepared And so I know a lot of the shit really like well prepared. I This is the Dome I I fucking hate cyclists Go to fucking Amsterdam go to the Netherlands go to Europe and ride your bicycle around I bet bicycles make a ton of sense in your only people that ride bikes Around here are people that had their licenses taken away or kids like that's the only people I ever see.
Starting point is 03:40:46 The kids I see cycling are just doing it around my neighborhood, which is like, I'm not going to get mad at kids having fun on their bicycles when I'm driving through the neighborhood because it's like, where else do you want them to go? Let them have a good time. Take it on the real road. You're riding their bikes in their own driveway. Well, that's that's heartless. They need a little bit of room to have fun. You guys can do laps around your mom's car and no further. That's literally the only place that I don't get annoyed at cyclists is in my own neighborhood if it's a kid where it's like they're just having a good time tooling around on their
Starting point is 03:41:19 bike and it's zero effort to kind of go to the left at neighborhood speed and get around it. You know what I around. I hate pedestrians. I see them on Halloween, these fucking people walking around at night. It's morally justified to run them over. Sometimes they're dressed like ghosts and vampires. Well, I was... Did you have to say Dracula? Well, I felt threatened. You know? There was a threatening individual dressed like
Starting point is 03:41:50 Hollywood Hulk Hogan coming in my car. I had to draw my side on. Yeah. I had to draw my side on. I fear for my life. It's the way it goes sometimes. Kyle, I love how this link you sent.
Starting point is 03:42:06 I love how they hit the cyclist, but like the gun isn't even the thing that killed them in the video. Yeah, there's a, I've seen several cases of people just running cyclists over and killing them on purpose for fun. And then like recording it. Like, I don't understand this current generation.
Starting point is 03:42:26 Like, what are you doing? Like, just forget that they're senselessly killing. Like the one I saw was an old man even that they just, and you see him, like this guy doesn't see it's coming. And they're like hooping and hollering as they accelerate into the back of him in a motor vehicle. Oh, I've seen that clip.
Starting point is 03:42:45 That's awful. Yeah. And I thought that was you at first. I heard the laugh. No, I wouldn't have filmed it. Exactly. I know what you're talking about. One guy who lost a leg cycling and it was sad.
Starting point is 03:42:59 So apparently he was on the, sort of on the shoulder, maybe even the white line. He was a, I knew him from my hockey team. He wasn't on my team. I played, they still need two legs, but I, uh, anyway, he was on the shoulder and a guy was passing him in his car, but the guy had a trailer that was a little wider and I guess he wasn't experienced, didn't sort of account for the trailer and the trailer hit the cyclist and he lost his leg. And he was off my competitors beer league hockey team.
Starting point is 03:43:29 Kind of a win for us. But but he's only a one leg now. Well, that sucks. I hope you at least, you know, got the cup that year in the beer league. We did win a cup or two. I don't recall if it was that year in the beer league. We did win a cup or two. I don't recall if it was that year. That's awesome. It was like, all right, one more off the list thing
Starting point is 03:43:52 you can kind of raise over. Find a picture somewhere. I would love to. That's awesome. I love that bit of Woody Lorde that he was a Titan on a beer league hockey team. Did you see Connor McDavid was playing beer league hockey yesterday? What? An Irish guy playing hockey? That's unique. Beer league hockey. I didn't. Find me a clip. I'd love to see it. I can tell you if he's
Starting point is 03:44:13 decent or not. Conor McDavid? Oh, I thought you said Conor McGregor. No, Conor McGregor's busy lying about making a comeback and lifting weights with his cock. I think he did. I don't know if he's lying about that. I think he did that, right? Well, yeah, that was factual, but the lies are that he's going to come back and fight. Although I will say this, Woody. Here's the kind of Conor fan I am now. I used to be the kind of Conor fan who bought into most of it and loved the prognostication and the confidence and the performances. The Aldo thing won me over big time and then after that I went
Starting point is 03:44:49 back and watched everything and it's like ah this guy's been doing this for a minute and I liked his humble like blue-collar plumber story. I liked all that. Now he's transitioned fully to the other side. He's in that Floyd Mayweather territory where I dislike him so much I want to see him lose. Now I'll pay to watch Conor McGregor lose. I used to pay to watch him win. And I don't I've never had a I've never seen that flip. That's never flipped for me with a sports team or an athlete or anything like that. He's so annoying and despicable now that I don't know, I want to see him
Starting point is 03:45:24 fight on that White horse house card and Get just demolished. I'd love give him it like whoever I don't know who the champion of 55 or 70 or who he would even fight But he can't beat anybody. He can't be anybody There's not a person in the UFC that kind of McGregor can still beat if Zach's here in a second We'll see a picture of my 2003 Buffalo wings championship team. I thought the cup was in a second, we'll see a picture of my 2003 Buffalo Wings Championship team. I thought the cup was in the picture, but it's not. I'm in the top right. What do you would have been? You can't recognize me. Uh, no, 30, right? You were born in 70. So you're looking
Starting point is 03:46:00 at a champion right there. Top right. Look at them him That's me on my hockey team. I really played That's awesome That's really cool. I wish there was a cup there. So that was the winning squad. Yeah. Yeah, it's in the title It's like 2003 wings champions or something like that was the goalie a solid goalie Yes, he was also a ref in that league Goalie, a solid goalie. Yes, he was also a ref in that league. Ah, that helped. Because he looks older than everyone else,
Starting point is 03:46:30 but if you're a decent goalie, you can make it a long way in beer league just through positioning and game knowledge, and so I'm sure he was a guy, he was always square to the puck, I'm sure. Who was the best player in this whole lineup? Who was the guy? Stand by.
Starting point is 03:46:50 Shucks. The guy next to the goalie was pretty good. I'll say our captain. Our captain, he just always was doing the right thing. The guy sitting next to me. For non-hockey players, he has a C on his chest. That's how you know he's the captain. And he was really good. That rules. The guy in the bottom right looks like he's taking a few to the head that guy was ham like that guy looks
Starting point is 03:47:12 That guy was huge He was not ready for that pick yeah, they told him to say cheese and he went Our captain was small but he was scrappy as fuck. And people would try to bully him. But that was a social mistake because he had sharp elbows and he would hit it. How tall was he? Not small, small. He was like five, seven, five, eight, something like. OK. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the N.H.
Starting point is 03:47:43 So it's not the N.H. So yeah, five, eight. The NHL is a pretty little guy, but in beer league, that. Okay. Yeah, well, I mean, this is the NHL. So yeah, it's not the NHL. Yeah. Five eight in the NHL is a pretty little guy, but in beer league, that's fine. And I would imagine that guy. Average height, actually. Bottom right. I bet he stepped up and defended old C sometimes because he looks like a bruiser. Kyle is right.
Starting point is 03:48:00 He looks like he's in the middle. He's everyone else is long through saying cheese and he's Looks like he drove that Dukes of Hazard car over that fountain Cheese and this guy said what kind? Swiss The guy next to him in the front row He was really smart. He was a doctor of something. His job was to invent new the front row, second to the right. Eyes too close together. He was really smart. He was a doctor of something.
Starting point is 03:48:26 His job was to invent new drugs. Oh, that's sick. Looks like he's got Justin Gagey eyes. That's impressive that he- Dude, that- Much was so little. That goalie, that old school- I don't know why we're just being awful
Starting point is 03:48:39 from what he's former teammate. They're nice people. I love his old school goalie blocker right there. That's awesome. The dude top center with his arms. You know they're all watching the show right now and they're like, what the fuck? They're like, man.
Starting point is 03:48:50 The dude top center with his arms around people was a European import. He had an Eastern European accent and everything. That feels like a ringer. You bring some guy from Slovakia over and he's solid. He was solid, yeah. He was just like the same as me. That's awesome.
Starting point is 03:49:09 I absolutely love your hockey lore as far as the championships in the men's league, the beer leagues, it's awesome. Surfing was my entire life. It was like my identity. I always was surfing, surfing, surfing, and we moved to Pennsylvania and I'm like, I gotta do something.
Starting point is 03:49:28 There's no waves here at all. What do people do here? Hockey? All right, we're in. Yeah, yeah. That's what I signed up for that how to play hockey thing. It didn't realize it was geared towards children. Like that's the beginning of what you were.
Starting point is 03:49:42 Taylor, as an aging man nearing the precipice of your physical peak, my decline. Yeah. Yes. Your inevitable decline, which has already began, of course. Do you have any thoughts of doing any like sports before you're too old to do them? Like like doing a season of softball or something while your knees are still good? No, softball doesn't tempt me. Like I do stuff like golf and pickleball with friends. Pretty often. I was gonna say pickleball.
Starting point is 03:50:07 Yeah. That's all we have around here. I don't know the, like literally four days ago or five days ago, we, like me and some friends who came in town, we played pickleball for a few hours. And that was a bunch of fun. And I was able to pick it up decently because I'd played it twice before. And I played tennis in high school a small bit.
Starting point is 03:50:25 And so you can kind of, it's, it's a way easier tennis, but the only like men's league I'd ever want to do would be hockey. But, and what do you know is this, because everyone who's played men's league does, if you are a goalie, they want goalies and you cannot be a goalie and say, I would love to play forward or I would love to play defense because they know they're just going to get a really bad forward, really bad defenseman. Because you literally like the way my skates were cut is different than a forward skates. Like it's a different blade shape.
Starting point is 03:50:57 And so you skate differently over time. And so I have kind of sworn off men's league hockey, despite how many people I get asking me because I never want to play goalie again. So I have kind of sworn off men's league hockey, despite how many people I get asking me, because I never want to play goalie again. That shit was stressful. It was- Well don't, play something else. It was not good, but that's the only question
Starting point is 03:51:14 he's ever actually good at is hockey. I'll get considered cycling. I guess I was gonna wrestle. Taylor, do goalies keep their skates sharp or are they just like dull as fuck so they can slide sideways easily? I would get my skates sharpened right before I knew I had like two to three hard practices before a game
Starting point is 03:51:32 so that I could get them appropriately dulled because I didn't want my skates too sharp before a game. When you pushed off sideways, did you use the net ever? Like metal on metal? Oh, like skate to post? if it was a dire straight where I was going to miss it otherwise yeah I'd like shoot laterally right over to the post and hit my skate on it but unless it was like a dire situation I wouldn't do it because even then I would have the presence of mind to be like well let's not totally ruin your skate
Starting point is 03:52:01 blade on this but. Did you make piles of snow to prevent pucks from coming in ever? No, it never seemed like that would work. I would do the like rough up the crease thing and I would, you know, push the snow to the side but I would rough it up a good bit. Sometimes more than other goalies cause I liked it slower,
Starting point is 03:52:24 but I don't even see what what Kyle's writing or showing here. What are you showing you the blocks and blocks that Chiz has replied about the NBA? Because Woody sent him a fucking bait question. Like, like Chiz had already done like a couple paragraphs and some bullshit. And Woody goes, which NBA team do you think has the worst future? Who's bad and can't turn things around? And in response, you get this, all of this. Oh my God, that is, dude, Woody swish. That's great.
Starting point is 03:52:54 That's great. I want to see it though, I am curious. And on top of that, I've got the feature on WhatsApp where it auto downloads photos turned on and I'll have to go in and just delete so many NBA stat things and flow charts and like like Easter the standings and stuff and it's like my god what the fuck I've got 40 NBA photographs in this what's that do the
Starting point is 03:53:15 thing that I know Facebook and Instagram does where you can like if someone sends you a bunch of bullshit you can hit like the AI summarize thing and it'll be like essentially what your fuck ass friend just said was and it puts like bullet points and you're like okay thank you I can't think anymore. Oh he's already typing again! He's already typing. I said I'm thankful the sn Sixers aren't on your list. Cause the Sixers have a,
Starting point is 03:53:49 we have a few young players that are exciting, but we have two of the worst contracts in the league. I'm here, Kyle, I'm here for it. And I just wondered what he was saying. We'll see, we'll see how long he hears take. He's gonna, the fucking PowerPoint presentation will come out tomorrow. It's outrageous. Oh God, I don't care at all.
Starting point is 03:54:04 I wish I could. So so many times we'll be chatting in there and he will go on a basketball thing and then Kyle you'll send a pic of Murphy being like he's feeling like an ornery boy or something. I'll be like he certainly is but he's a good pup and that's like two texts at the end of 55 paragraphs of Facebook knowledge. I think Jizz is an exceptionally fast typer. Didn't we learn that about him at one point? He's definitely a fast text.
Starting point is 03:54:35 On the keyboard. But he's texting this. Yeah, he's texting this. He's not typing it, right? Yeah, but he's also fast at typing. If he's a typist, he's very slow, but if he's a text, he's very quick. Yeah, exactly. Well, we don't know how If he's a typist, he's very slow. But if he's a texter, he's very quick. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 03:54:46 Well, we don't know how long he's thinking or like. Well, what I'm saying is on WhatsApp, he's using his phone. I can see how fast he's texting. It's about what I do. But on, I also use a lot of speech to text. But on a keyboard, he's on another level. He's definitely way faster than me.
Starting point is 03:54:59 I thought I was fast in high school. I would top out at like 90 or something. He's way faster than that. And I would top out at like 90 or something he's way faster than that and I would do 90 oh no you have to like do like multiple hits on a button oh I don't know anything about that I'm just a nog like the ones that don't have like the full keyboard where you'd have to be like did you know yeah yeah oh yeah that was me on the chocolate. He was talking about typing. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 03:55:25 And you're not a slow typist. You're just not like chis or even me level. What are you, Taylor? Do you know any words per minute yet? We did it in the Hangout. I think I was at like 90 or something. I thought I was near 100, something like that. You were at 100 or maybe over 100.
Starting point is 03:55:43 I can do 90 if I'm typing like something I know, but if I'm reading it and typing it, I absolutely cannot. I don't know if that makes any sense. I probably type around 60. I got 55 and people were like, try again. I'm like, actually, I know how I type. I'm sticking with 55. On the range of scores I might have got.
Starting point is 03:56:06 That was all the good stuff. That was your first sprint and you were smart to not re sprint here. Yeah. I was like actual legitimate typers or are you like middle finger? Oh no, we were tight. No, we're, we're legit type. Well, I mean, I think Woody was a programmer and I took two years of keyboarding in high school and, school. And Taylor can literally type faster than just about anybody I've ever met.
Starting point is 03:56:31 I'm sure I used to be faster, but I don't think I was ever as fast as Taylor. I'm fast but I'm not like, I don't do it right, but it's fast. I just tested myself. I used all my fingers. I'm not sure every key is getting the finger that a perfectionist would just prescribe for it, but I use all my hands. I'm not sure every key is getting the finger that a perfectionist would just prescribe for it,
Starting point is 03:56:46 but I use all my hands. Mine definitely does. I use every key where it's supposed to. Again, I was taking the key, I took typing in middle school on a fucking typewriter, and then I took like three years of different computer classes, and one of them was just keyboarding in high school.
Starting point is 03:57:02 And all we did all day was do those typing games where typing the right word, like made that word. The words are coming at your base and the words are technically like meteors or missiles. And you have to type those words to make them. You have to shoot the laser to knock out the words. Yeah, just played last night. It was I did like we did. We had computer class and then they had like a typing like lesson at
Starting point is 03:57:28 some point and I didn't I was like okay that's not how I've been doing it. Typing is something they've got on point like the home row makes sense like I pretty much never leave that that's why, I've got my fingers on like QWD like for gaming for AOE and stuff instead of some people do like AWD and all of my, like I send messages so fast if I do talk in that game, cause it's all text based that it's all misspelled cause I'm not on home row. And I'm like, Oh fuck, I gotta delete that whole thing and then go back to home row and then type it again. You just game home row.
Starting point is 03:58:08 There is no advantage to not gaming home row. I'm just not used to it. I don't think it helps me. I have a cheat for finding home row. I just replaced them too. I have these keys and they're rubber and they have like textile. They're like sort of.
Starting point is 03:58:23 Knurling? Yeah, knurling. Perfect, thank you. Like there's of knurling. Yeah, knurling. Perfect. Thank you. Like there's rubber knurling on them. So like if I'm keyboard gaming, which I haven't done a little bit, I'm not playing shooters. If my hand doesn't feel the knurling, I know I've made a mistake. So what will happen is I'm playing and then I need to like throw a grenade
Starting point is 03:58:40 or lean forward. So I leave the WASD. It helps me get back. My F and J do of course. I wish I had maybe the A and the L because sometimes if I'm really, I can't think of what game does it to me, but oh, Tarkov. In Tarkov you're all over the place getting bendy sometimes.
Starting point is 03:58:57 Especially if you're doing something specific, if you're trying to like lean jiggle peek somebody while like flashing your light at them. It can get wonky. Has more commands than any other game I've played. Why it's the best game? You're playing a shooter, you're like, right, right, my shooter has lean too, right?
Starting point is 03:59:16 How many commands does yours have to check the ammo? There's two or three in Tarkov. There's a special one where you can clear the round after you've moved the magazine and catch it with your hand. I don't know how to do it. I watched it. Shift L, shift L, do anything in your shooter? People like it. They ran out of letters and started adding modifiers to it.
Starting point is 03:59:40 It's it's complicated. It's all right. I don't use it. Oh, fuck. I do. No, I caught for what is what is cod. Call of Duty. Okay. Okay. Little little indie game. You can play as Beavis and butthead now. So it's changed since I played God, which I think two years ago it was Nicki Minaj. You could play as.. Yep. Um, which now they have a mode for war zone, because that's pretty much whatever I play with my friends. And it's called casual resurgence where basically they mix in bots for people
Starting point is 04:00:16 like me and my friends who are not good at the game. We're also bots. Exactly. And my friend told me the other night, he was like, he googled it and he was like, there's actually only 12 real players in these games. And that kind of ruined everything for me because I'm like, Jesus Christ. And then you get to the end of the game, where all the bots have died. And you're like, oh, this is real now. And then then you lose that you obviously tell if they're bonds. Yep, they have because me and my friend, we jumped
Starting point is 04:00:44 in and he hadn't played for a while because he broke his arm. So when we jumped in, we thought because he hadn't played for a while that we were getting good lobbies because like those bots, they just like parachute in and then stare at a wall for a few minutes. And we're like, man, these guys fucking suck. And then we won that one. And then we played a second, we're like, man,
Starting point is 04:01:04 we're getting good lobbies tonight. And then we found that one and then we played a second. We're like, man, we're getting good lobbies tonight. And then we found out we were playing against, in fact, robots. I played a ton of PUBG like the first year or two it was out. And I would say I was definitely an above average player. I won a decent amount, had a great time, loved solos, loved squads, loved that game. And then I came back to it after what must have been five, six years and I was like, holy shit, still got it. I'm embarrassing people and I'm talking smack.
Starting point is 04:01:33 Get fucked, you bot. It was bots. It was bots. They had mixed bots in because the player base at that point had dipped. I think maybe there's been a resurgence in that game and it's doing better. But at that point there was so many bots mixed in.
Starting point is 04:01:47 I was I was like, man, I destroyed that guy. I jumped out of a window and shot him as I fell and he didn't even react. And then I killed his buddy that was just right around the corner. He didn't react. I'm getting first shot every time. It's about talking shit to them is so fucking funny. Fuck you, asshole. I will say, even though COD is, I hate the game, I love it but I hate it, it is still I think the smoothest playing shooter that is out.
Starting point is 04:02:17 I think that's the only good thing they've had is that there's no other game I think that comes close to being a smooth more than Counter-Strike. I feel like all my buddies into Counter-Strike like that's their thing is they're like it's the most pure shooter and my brother's still going to strike and I think he agrees with me but also I don't play any other shooters so like everything I'm saying right now is could be bullshit but your shooter isn't what I want the pure shooter to me means that we boil it down
Starting point is 04:02:47 to reaction times and precision. And teamwork of course. But that's not what I want. I want you to mix in a few wild cards so that there's a buffer between the best and the worst. But not too many wild cards so that it's nonsense, which is what Cod has done. Not Beavis and Butthead.
Starting point is 04:03:04 Every hand is a wild card in that game. Like I really like the randomness and shittiness and scumminess of Tarkov. It's just the cheaters. It's just I can't get over that occasionally someone will cheat and just ruin my day in a way that's hard to explain. Like you've built a man that was that was so many hours that I've been looking for that one thing
Starting point is 04:03:27 and then a cheater took it away from me and it's gonna be that many more. If I had gotten that thing, it doesn't just get me to the next step. It opens up an option of next steps of like five different new things that can happen. You just closed the door. You made this whole day not count for anything.
Starting point is 04:03:43 Which has been happening in COD with Ranked, like the Ranked play, like they've been having a lot of cheaters and apparently it's a big problem. So, how much do you feel about this style of cheating? I play this game called Night Reign. It's the three of you playing Elden Ring as a team in these 40 minute games. Okay, the only cheating that I've ever heard of
Starting point is 04:04:04 is when you play the game you can get these relics and they do things for your character. Okay, the only cheating that I've ever heard of is when you play the game, you can get these relics and they do things for your character. Your starting weapon now has fire on it. Now you hit a little harder for everything that you visit, et cetera. Well, the relics you get mostly kind of suck, but people cheat and give themselves these dream relics,
Starting point is 04:04:23 these things that would be like one in a million and they have three of them or they have combos that you literally can't even get. Yeah. And you can't have nine of the best attributes. And you end up with them on your team, not, and they have, and they're on your team and they're shredding people, helping you get victories. And it's like, huh, they're hollow victories, right? No, I would feel like that too, even though that there isn't another player.
Starting point is 04:04:48 Usually the bar for me is is another player's fun being lessened. The cheats are definitely more fun for the cheat user. But is someone else losing fun? And in your case, yeah, you are losing fun because you even thought even that you had that thought like, wait a minute, what? You just lost a little fun even having that so like if if every the whole team had them or if you had Consented, you know to them having them that would be different because you're just beating up some fucking goofy monster or whatever I'm all for that
Starting point is 04:05:18 But I wasn't just never understood the motive like when especially those people where it's like they like the aim bots and the cronists or whatever. I'm like, what are you even doing? Are you having fun? Well, you might know this, but in Tarkov, there's a monetary reward. So they're able to turn their cheating into a job. And especially if they're in some really poor Eastern European country or something like that, like, I don't know, the UK, then it's better than a for some for some people that do it because they'll cheat and they'll boost accounts up and sell those accounts They'll cheat and they'll get valuable items and they'll Sell the account that has the valuable items It's a little more difficult to cheat and then acquire valuable items and then give them to another person in game they worked very hard to stop that which has taken the fun away from
Starting point is 04:06:04 the the normal players like me, because you used to be able to do this thing where if you've been playing this game for 4,000 hours like I have, you'd get a new buddy that you want to introduce to the game. And it's like the beginning of the game is such a pain, more than most any other game. You're already learning and all new systems and facing against difficult competition, but the grind is awful. So it's nice to be able to go into a game and be like, hey, here's a few things to tide you over until you know what the fuck you're doing.
Starting point is 04:06:32 Don't worry about it. I've got plenty. I'm a billionaire, you know? But because of the cheating, now you can't help your buddies out in that way. And that takes away from the fun of the game. That's another way that the cheaters make that game less fun. That's why I don't play it.
Starting point is 04:06:46 So I had a cool gaming experience. I just want to throw this out there before we end the show. So I play Souls like games a lot, right? Like more than most people and I'm getting okay at it. And I have a friend who's really really good and the two and I we queue up and we get this guy. And it's almost a meme in Night Rain that if the guy doesn't skip the cut scene, right,
Starting point is 04:07:11 if he hasn't seen this cut scene 50,000 times already, nice. And he, our random, that's what they call the guy, we don't know, he doesn't skip the cut scene. And then we meet him and he has the default skin on. And he has every indication that this guy has like never won. When you first get the game, you can only queue up against one boss
Starting point is 04:07:31 and that's the boss we're against, right? So this guy seemingly hasn't played very much and we're playing and he's not awful, but he looks like he's new to this game, by the default skin, not skipping the cut scenes in the way. And he follows us around like a very obedient puppy the entire time, someone taught this guy heal. And he's just at our feet, picking up all the things worth
Starting point is 04:07:53 we're like feeding them better weapons and stuff. And in the like midway through the game, my friend is like, we're getting this guy's first win, like it became a freaking mission. There was no way we this guy we were gonna let him lose. It would picked him up time and time again. And it became a freaking mission. There was no way we, this guy, we were going to let him lose. It would pick them up time and time again and it's going great. We get to level fifteen, which is the highest level. We're at full strength. We go to the end boss, my friend and I combined for like 90% of the damage and he provided the other ten. We take them to the
Starting point is 04:08:20 victory and there are these like uh objects in games where you can blow on them and they say something. So, I like, wonderful. And my teammate goes, you're beautiful. And the random is standing still, obviously working his way through the menus, trying to figure out how to reply. It never does. He jumps on the mic and he's eight years old. And you're like, Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Who's the guy? Who's the guy that that he his whole bit is he pretends to be severely autistic.
Starting point is 04:08:53 And he does those like hidden. Shane Gillis. No, the skinny guy that wears the suit. He did the dumb Starbucks bit. Nathan Fielder. So I saw a thing from Nathan Fielder today where he does a job interview. He's in person there in front of a woman. I think it's a job for a paralegal or a lawyer or at the firm.
Starting point is 04:09:14 And he's wearing a hidden earpiece. And all of his answers are coming from a seven year old who is listening to her questions. They hear her ask the questions. They say to the seven-year-old, what organizational skills would you bring to the firm? We have a lot of clients. I don't want to answer that one. Why do you want to be a lawyer? Maybe you want to be a lawyer. He's like, so I can get bad guys and make them go away. At one point, he just goes, but you like skateboarding.
Starting point is 04:09:51 Yeah. What legal experience do you have? And he's like, I don't like that question. You like skateboarding? And it reminds me of that producer we had on this show. Oh, yeah. You wouldn't answer the fucking questions. Do you guys like video games? Dude, Nathan for you. That guy's dress up. That guy was awful.
Starting point is 04:10:13 I finished it, but the airplane or like the pilot one that he did recently, apparently he's really good, where he became an actual 747 pilot. Really? Yeah. It's a bit like that seems like a big investment. I haven't watched his new show. I've just seen an actual 747 pilot. Really? Yeah. That's a bit like that seems like a big investment. I haven't watched his new show. I've just seen Nathan for you, the old ones. It's pretty similar to Nathan for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:10:35 Well, Chris, where can everyone find your wonderful content? Thank you. Chris James TV on YouTube and Chris the James everywhere else. Check him out. Well, thank you for coming. I know it was a little late notice. We had we shuffled a few things around problem and You guys stay tuned conspiracy theory next week make sure you show up for that and Of course our wonderful sponsors down below and join the patreon if you want to watch some UFC with me and Woody You'll get to see our incredible takes I do comment we do color commentary
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