Painkiller Already - PKA 762 W/ Flesh Simulator & Brad: The Conspiracy Episode

Episode Date: July 26, 2025

PKA 572 with our guests, Brad the Rambler and Flesh Simulator, Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Bluechew, Lock and Load, our wonderful merchandise. And also Woody, it's way past episode 572. Is that what I said? We're in the 700s. I don't remember it like that. Way further than that.

You can't prove it. We got Tom or Flesh Simulator and we got Brad the Rambler, a couple of conspiracy gurus, guys who know their shit Probably gonna put us all the shame. Thank you guys for joining us Thank you for having us here. See episode problem. I'm psyched. Yeah, it's always fun and I I always had the problem with the conspiracy episodes where I spend like a day Trying to get really into one and then that conspiracy leads me to one that I like even more. And then I abandoned the one I started with. Like I started out with Lyme

disease being like Lyme disease is like definitely manmade. And I had just heard that one and I thought it would be novel. And then I was DMing with Tom on Twitter and like I just, you know, it got brought up and immediately he's like giving me encyclopedic knowledge where he's like, yeah, the guy who did it was Wilson Bergdorfer and it was at the Plum Island thing and it was and I'm like fuck well I'm not gonna do a conspiracy just so I can know way less than him on the show about that that won't be interesting but uh yeah how did you guys do finding yours? Enticing? Good ones? I've had ideas in the hopper for a long time so I tapped into those I started out with the Bohemian Grove because I'm really interested in

the Stanley Kubrick possible connections with eyes wide shut and you know the general Epstein stuff and global elite pedophile rings that seemed to be just all the rage these days but the more I dug into Bohemian Grove, the more it seemed like rich and powerful frat boys drinking beer at a retreat, you know, out in the woods having a good time. There's definitely some imagery and some shenanigans, but no more than you would see in like Greek society. You know, like it's all based on something, but I don't think they're actually there sacrificing babies to Moloch. So I transitioned from that to something much sillier that I mostly made up. That's how the best conspiracies are. Like some of the most fun ones to look into, I don't know if Brad and Tom agree, are like the ones that you know going in, you're never going to be convinced.

I always go back to flat earth with this because it's like a window into such a weird way to think about the world where it's like a zoo more than like learning about a conspiracy. It's like, wow. So like, how do seasons work? And they're like, well, it's actually not this really straightforward thing that's easy. It's a huge amount of like different like the sun just stops sometimes and goes in a different direction then to make spring make sense. Just nonsense. But I think we're going to let a let Brad kick it off for us with whatever conspiracy you brought. You prepared. You ready? You look ready. I might be. I might be. This is one that is very, it's very close to home. Okay.

Okay. It's on this one fellow by the name of Henry Marshall and his story. Henry Marshall was a resident of rural Texas. He was an agent of the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, which was kind of created in the Great Depression as a way to limit farm production as a way to stabilize food prices. He started working for them sometime in the late 30s. He was known as a really good worker, known for being very meticulous, and eventually

he was made supervisor of the Robertson County area. And then eventually he was tasked with investigating this known con man by the name of Billy Solestis, who had been doing some shady dealings in the agriculture sector for the last decade or so. in the agriculture sector for the last decade or so. And then Henry Marshall would end up dead under mysterious circumstances.

Billy Solestis was a pretty charismatic figure listed as one of America's 10 outstanding young men by the United States Junior Chamber of Commerce, 1953. Was beloved by his fellow members of his church, Church of Christ, I believe. And he was being investigated by Henry Marshall due to this weird cotton allotment scheme as a way to sort of control, sort of create a cartel on the prices of cotton in Texas at the time, and also some other shady business we'll continue on with. He was also known for being very heavily connected politically. We will also get further into that. The series leading up to Marshall's death was a variety of things. In 1960, he was tasked with investigating Billy Celestes and eventually found out that he had legally purchased over 3,200 acres of cotton allotments from 116 different farmers.

Cotton allotments being like each farmer gets a set amount of acres that they can plant cotton on for production. And essentially he was some weird backhanded way with eminent domain and other things to be able to illegally transfer these to himself. Marshall will communicate with his superiors essentially saying that we need more regulations on this matter to prevent this these transfers from going through and that we need to make sure this doesn't happen in the future because it's it's pretty bad at this point. After hearing of the investigation through his connections

in the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, Billy Solestes would send his lawyer to meet with Marshall and try to get him to, hey, why don't you just stop? Why don't you just stop this? It's not so bad what we're doing. You know, it's not so bad. But Marshall would tell him, no, no, you're doing some illegal shit. I'm not letting you do it. I'm telling everybody. I'm telling everyone to not do business with you.

And then he would report about this meeting to his supervisors in Washington, Washington, D.C., essentially saying that, hey, it seems like I'm getting pressured here a little bit. Is there anything you can do? And then they sent him a, they communicate with him saying, hey, do you want a promotion? Do you want to work here in Washington with us? Where they promote you out of chasing something. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Marshall saw this as a bribe instantly. He was like, what is this shit? No. So he refuses. Marshall then goes on a tear, essentially talking to every county committee he can, and all the farmers that had sold their allotments to Billy Solis is saying, hey, this shit's illegal. You shouldn't be doing this.

Don't get involved with this dude. He's bad news. You don't want none of this none of this bullshit and then Henry Marshall winds up dead found on June found on his ranch June 3rd 1969 by his uh Chevy pickup he had been shot five times with his own bolt action 22 that laid right beside him He had been shot five times with his own bolt action 22 that laid right beside him. Suicide. And when the sheriff arrived on scene.

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy shit. Sheriff arrives on scene, declares that it had been a suicide. No blood samples were taken. There was no dusting for fingerprints. I didn't see that part of the slide. There was no dusting for fingerprints. The scene was not photographed and the pickup truck was washed and waxed the very next day. You see where this is kind of going here. No, just standard behavior, you know. It's the 1960s. This is what they do.

Yeah, that's like the guy who had dirt on the Clintons who stabbed himself to death with a pen. Shot himself with a shotgun and hung himself off a table. Yeah, yeah. Man, you can get away with anything in the 60s, I guess. Yeah, this is like two and a half Gary Webb, but oh yeah But uh Essentially Marshall's family does not believe this shit and offers an award of $2,000 Which is like $21,000 today post inflation for information that would lead to a murder conviction the coroner Manley Jones pretty stand up guy, pretty much said, I don't think a man can shoot himself like this boss.

I don't know. It doesn't look right to me. It does not look right to me. And he reinterrates this to the judge. And later in the 1980s, the coroner's son would say that the judge had told his father, I got a putt suicide. The sheriff is telling me to. I'm going to listen to the sheriff on this one.

I know you're the expert on this, but we're going with the sheriff. The presiding judge, Lee Farmer, would rule it a suicide. Death by gunshot, self-inflicted. Marshall's wife would hire an attorney in an attempt to have the ruling on his death changed. One man that believed that Marshall had been murdered was a famous Texas ranger by the name of Clint Peoples. Sick, love this guy already.

This guy's dope. Yeah. Yes, that's probably one of the coolest guys Sick, love this guy already. This guy's dope. Yeah. Yes, that's probably one of the coolest guys ever, in my opinion. Clint Peoples was known for being incorruptible and not letting anything stand in the way of justice. During his time as a ranger, he was known for his activities acting against illegal casinos on Galveston Island that were being operated by the mob at the time. This time period was very lawless for Galveston Island.

It was essentially like a mini Las Vegas sort of Atlantic city sort of thing. And it was colloquially known as the Free State of Galveston because of that. And he was most famous for his activities going into this one city place called the Balinese room, which was this long pier that goes off over the water and was designed that way so that like if the law was coming in, they had enough time to put away all the gambling machines, all the cards, all the money and that shit, and just have a show up on stage. Be like, hey, what's going on? Why are you all here?

You know, that sort of bullshit. After getting involved with investigating Marshall's death, he would continue to pursue the case for decades, even after his career as a ranger was over, even after he became a U.S. Marshal and retired from that as well. During his investigation, he would interview a gas station attendant who claimed a man had asked for directions to Marshall's property the morning of his death. After having a sketch made of this man's description, Peoples concluded that it was a convicted murderer by the morning of his death. After having a sketch made of this man's description, Peoples concluded that it was a convicted murderer by the name of Malcolm Mac Wallace.

Mac Wallace, murderer. Mac Wallace was a Marine, did not serve during World War II, had an injury on the USS Lexington that hurt his back and so he was medically discharged. He would then go on to the University of Texas to study, I think, biology or something like that. He was president of the student body, a member of the reclusive chaos club that is kind of related tangentially to skull and bones, lose connection, but still, you know, we do know weirdness.

Right, the Yale one with all that. Yeah, that's the Yale one. Such, okay. Yep. There used to be a thing where skull and bones had multiple sort of chapters and were kind of formed into this other entity. And then the chaos club was slightly related to that

other entity. Loosely related, la la la la la. But he worked for the United States Department of Agriculture in Texas. He was also heavily politically connected and was convicted for the murder of Austin mini golf course owner John Kinzer in 1952. The circumstances of Kinzer's murder very strange. On October 22nd 1951, Mack Wallace would arrive at Kinzer's golf course. After finding Kinzer in the golf shop, he would shoot him several times, killing him. A customer would write down his license plate as he fled the scene. Apparently, Wallace and Kinzer had been sleeping with the same woman by the name of Giuseppe Johnson.

And what was believed to be the main motivation for the murder was due to Kinzer trying to extort Giuseppe's brother in order to have him loan money to Kinzer to pay off his debts. Decephah's brother was very politically connected and was sort of a mentor to Wallace and a friend had taken him under his wing years prior. Wallace's attorney, John Coffer, would admit his guilt saying that it was essentially a crime of passion because Kinzer was sleeping with Wallace's attorney, John Coffer, would admit his guilt, saying that it was essentially a crime of passion because Kinzer was sleeping with Wallace's wife, which no real evidence of at all. Just throwing that bullshit out there, you know, just like, hey, you got us. Here's an excuse.

That's not as bad. Yeah. During the trial, the following year, 11 of the 12 jurors wished to seek the death penalty for Malcolm Wallace, with the 12th wishing for life imprisonment, so they went with that option. Still getting them off the streets, still never gonna see light of day again. But then the crazy shit happens. The crazy shit happens. The judge presiding over the case overruled the jury, sentencing Wallace to five years in prison. He then suspended the sentence allowing Wallace to walk out of the courthouse a free man despite being convicted of murder. It is alleged that several jurors had contacted Kinzer's parents saying,

we're sorry, we had to go along with the suspended sentence. They were threatening our families. If we don't, if we don't go along with this, who knows who gets killed next? You know, that sort of thing, you know, just, uh, just some good old jury tampering. Seems like this guy was a Fed or something. Something like that. Something. But later, Billy Sol Estes gets arrested in 1962 for fraud and conspiracy charges by the FBI.

The Secretary of Agriculture at the time, Orville Freeman, would disclose that Estes' arrest would not have been possible without the work of Henry Marshall. Due to this development in the Robertshire County grand jury ordered an exhumation, an autopsy of Henry Marshall. Dr. Joseph Jakimczyk, I believe it is pretty good, would conclude after an eight hour examination that Marshall had not committed eight hours. I knew right away. I don't mean to, I would be the worst examiner.

I'd see the body for like three seconds and I'd be like gross. Whatever you want. Like this is disgusting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did kill himself. I don't I don't want to poke around in this year old corpse. The case against S is then starts going forward. The rest had stemmed from business deals regarding using mortgages for non-existent ammonia tanks as collateral for bank loans. Estes had three business associates and would, Estes and his three business associates would be indicted on 57 counts of fraud. This part of the scheme

was actually exposed by a journalist in a story in 1962. I forgot to put that down in there. But anyways, SS's chief accountant, George Krutulik, is found dead the day before the indictment. It would be ruled a suicide despite evidence of severe blunt force trauma to the head. Then two of Estes' three business associates that were indicted would commit suicide under mysterious circumstances. Billy Sowell Estes' political connections

and scale of the fraud would lead to the Senate permanent subcommittee on investigations to examine the case. It would be found that Estes had bribed three employees of the AAA. All of them would then be fired. With further disclosures pointing towards the secretary of agriculture, Orville Freeman himself being possibly involved. The guy that says this would this investigation would have gotten nowhere without Marshall. After being fined over $42,000 for illegal cotton allotment exchanges in 1961,

Estes would be appointed to the National Cotton Advisory Board by Orville Freeman two months later. Oh, what? That's like the Department of Agriculture. That's like when they put Gus, the Gus Fring on that DEA board. I think it's pictures with Hank. It seems pretty sketchy. He gets up pictures with Hank. Man, this seems pretty sketchy. Yeah. Yeah, very sketchy. Very, very sketchy. The deputy director of agriculture's department's cotton division would testify that Estes had

threatened to embarrass the Kennedy administration if an investigation was not stopped. It would further testify that Estes had said somebody had already died due to the investigation of the allotment scam, that he was asked by Estes if he knew Henry Marshall. Yes. Was Henry Marshall murdered? Due to the mysterious death after beginning an investigation into Estes, the FBI would begin investigation if Marshall had been murdered. It was alleged that JFK had some awareness and told RFK that, hey, we kind of want the FBI to up the game here with investigating this, by the way, just to let you know, the FBI agent assigned to the case, Tommy McMillian McWilliams.

Sorry. Let me take a drink real quick. You're good. This is a lot to remember. Oh yeah. I hadn't heard of any of these people ever. I heard of RFK. Oh yeah. Shit. You're right. Yeah. ever. I heard of RFK. Oh, shit, you're right. Yeah. I don't look into it. But the FBI agent, Tommy McWilliams, would conclude that Marshall had committed a suicide. He had wrote, My theory was that he had shot himself and realized he wasn't dead. suicide, he had wrote, my theory was that he had shot himself and realized he wasn't dead.

McWilliams said that after shooting himself four more times with a bolt action 22 LR rifle that he used his shirt as a hood to wrap around the truck's pickup truck's tailpipe to die via carbon monoxide poisoning. This guy sucks at cleaning stuff. The long time director of the FBI. He was so determined to die. This dude's so determined. He was a hard worker.

He was a hard worker. He was known for that. The fact that it's both action too is so funny. He's having to do a big ordeal every time he shoots himself. I can imagine that. He's got like his toe on the trigger and he blasts half his head off and he's like, fuck, I gotta finagle with this. Oh no, that's the thing. He was getting shot in like the arm, the leg, the chest. Just.

Missed again. I don't know, man. He was a hard worker. was a notoriously bad shot he was the guy on K that was shooting himself with like pellet guns and then trying to work up to 22 to build up an immunity to bullets I've seen that post that's very everyone's like almost almost work. We need to check in on that guy. Maybe he's immune to like 45 by now. Who knows? Sorry, Brad.

But the, oh, it's all good. Interject as much as you want. I'm just glad to be here. The long time director of the FBI, Jay Edgar Hoover was not happy with this explanation though. Writing. I just can't understand how one can fire five shot at set himself. I don't know how either Hoover. I don't know.

The doctor that performed the out eight hour autopsy on Marshall, Dr. Joseph just Kim's it disagree with the FBI report on the case, noting signs of blunt force trauma to Marshall's head and a lack of soot on the shirt, which would have been there if it was actually used to wrap his head around the tailpipe. He did find though that inside of Marshall's bloodstream, there was a 15% concentration of carbon monoxide and believed that at the time of death it could have been over 30%. So he was still inhaling a bunch of carbon monoxide.

That did happen. After all this, the grand jury of Robertson County convenes to go over this case. After the revelations of Estes being arrayed, the grand jury would begin their own investigation into the death of Henry Marshall in 1962. Billy Sol Estes would appear before the grand jury alongside a lawyer by the name of John Cofer, who had represented Malcolm Wallace during his trial for the murder of John Kinzer. Estes would plead the fifth in response to most questions by the jury to not incriminate himself. but represented Malcolm Wallace during his trial for the murder of John Kinzer. Estes would plead the fifth in response to most questions by the jury to not incriminate himself. Of course, you have a right to do that.

Plead the fifth. Definitely recommend that. A.G. McWilliams presented his theory that Marfaulette killed himself. And then Dr. Duhemczyk would testify that this was, that if this was a suicide, it is the most unusual one that I have seen during the examinations of approximately 15,000 deceased persons. 15,000 autopsies.

15,000 autopsies. McWilliams would admit that it would be difficult to commit suicide in such a manner with a bold action 22. In the end, despite evidence and the testimony of experts, the grand jury agreed with Angel McWilliams that it was a suicide, concluding that it would not change the previous ruling based on the evidence that they had been presented. Later, it would be found out that some jury members did believe that Marshall had been murdered, only agreeing to the suicide conclusion after being intimidated or influenced by a fellow juror member named Price Metcalf, the Robertson County Sheriff's son-in-law.

No, probably shouldn't have let him on the jury. The son-in-law of the sheriff that said that. Yeah, I don't think you could be impartial to this. Yeah. If I were the prosecutor, I'd be like, get this guy the hell out of here. That's insane. Yeah, get the f— Get out of here, get out of here. But anyways, Estes would be sentenced 24 years

on federal and state charges due to the fraud allegations. This sentence would be successfully appealed to the Supreme Court and Estes would be paroled in 1971. Eight years later though he would return to prison after being convicted for mail fraud, serving another four years. In 1964 the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations would conclude there was no connections between Marshall's death and the investigation into Billy Soule Estes' cotton allotment scheme. Clint Peoples did not give up, though.

Hmm. He didn't believe in that sort of bullshit. Mm hmm. One leg up, cowboy hat on. People. Cigar. Oh yeah, cigar in hand. Smells like bullshit to me. Oh yeah, cigar in hand. Smells like bullshit to me.

Peoples would continue his investigation for 20 years. 20 years. Not a hard worker. Not at all. He did this on his off time. He was wasting time on his bullshit. 22 Just try to touch it once every day. 22 years of looking at photos of a guy like shot in the arm 11 times, the 22 being like, there has to be something here for me to go off of. Yeah.

But yeah, he would continue this investigation after retiring from the Rangers and later retiring as a US Marshal, being appointed a U.S. Marshal for the Northern Texas District by President Richard Nixon. That's how famous he was amongst lawmen, essentially. In 1979, he would interview Estes after he had returned to prison for mail fraud. During this interview, Estes would make the promise that once released that he would tell the truth regarding what had happened to Henry Marshall. In 1983, after release of Billy Solestes, another grand jury would be convened in Roberts

County to hear his testimony. What was said by Billy Solestes would shock the jury beyond all belief. The testimony of Billy Sol. Hmm, Billy Solestes stood before the jury as he had more than 10 years earlier, finally willing to tell the truth of what had happened to Henry Marshall. He spoke, laying before them the truth that many had happened to Henry Marshall.

He spoke, laying before them, the truth that many had known, but was unconfirmed. Marshall had been murdered by Malcolm Mack Wallace to prevent the whistle from being blown on Estes' legal cotton allotment scheme. This was followed by a more shocking revelation. He would also testify that the murder had been ordered by his political benefactor. Who was this political benefactor? Oh, say it ain't so.

Lyndon Baines Johnson. Third leg Johnson himself. Johnson had apparently. Oh yes. Oh yes, the big bastard. Johnson had apparently worked closely with us on different schemes, sometimes helping finance them, giving some political backing, making sure certain people look away. And they developed the scheme to where they would receive over $21 million a year in subsidies for non-existent crops of cotton.

21 million a year. When it was discovered that Marshall was investigating part of the scheme, Estes contacted a close aide to Johnson, Clifton C. Carter, asking for help in the matter. Johnson was actually the one who had the idea that we should promote Marshall out of the area to help in the investigation. After Marshall refused and during a meeting with Estes, Carter, and Wallace, Johnson would say, it looks like we'll have to just get rid of him.

Malcolm Mac Wallace, LBJ's hitman. Malcolm Mac Wallace, LBJ's hit man. Billy Sol Estes would testify that Wallace had killed Marshall and previously John Kinzer on orders from LBJ. Billy Sol would also allege that his accountant and two business partners who committed suicide supposedly were murdered by Wallace to protect LBJ. And that Wallace had tried to make it look like Marshall had committed suicide via carbon monoxide poisoning, but that Marshall had fought back and that Wallace was forced to shoot him several times with a bold action 22. Should have brought a better gun. Oh yes. It's like,

well it was actually uh it was actually Malcolm Wallace's gun. Like he didn't bring a gun at all. He was just like I'm gonna beat the shit out of this guy and put his head around a tailpipe. But this guy's not a very good plan like had a lot a bigger bench Would help mark there there's more to that. There's more to that John Kinzer was allegedly threatening him and Malcolm and Malcolm's mutual lover Joseph of Johnson who was LBJ sister LBJ sister Malcolm Wallace was pork and LBJ's sister, Malcolm Wallace was pork in LBJ's sister fellas. But anyways, that cancer was threatening Josepha saying that if your brother doesn't give me money I'm going to expose all his bullshit and ruin his career in politics. Okay.

And Malcolm's lawyer, oh yes, Malcolm's lawyer during the trial, John Koffer, had not just represented him in Estes during their trials, but he had also represented LBJ when he was accused of rigging the 1948 Democratic Senate primary in Texas. This was known as the Box 13 scandal. And that's its own can of worms, friends. Its own can of worms.

I could have doubled up on this slideshow if I wanted to get into that bullshit. But the grand jury would reject this testimony considering that Johnson, Carter, and Wallace were all dead. Johnson dying from heart problems. Of course, he was already an old dude. He had heart problems as president. So not that mysterious, but they did rule that they would change Marshall's cause of death from suicide to death by gunshot.

Not homicide, but just simply death by gunshot. Wallis would die under mystery. Wouldn't it already have been suicide by gunshot? Who knows? They wanted... Well, they apparently wanted to leave it open-ended. To just be like, oh, he died by gunshot. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We're not going to say was it suicide?

Aggravated. Wallace would die. Yes. Oh, yes. Lead poisoning. But Wallace would die in a mysterious car crash in 1971, supposedly falling asleep at the wheel of his car and going off the road. Soon after, Clifton Carter would follow him in death, dying at the age of 53. Estes' lawyer would later contact the Department of Justice to say he would state on record that LBJ had ordered the murder of Kinser, Marshall, Estes' associates, his own sister President John Fitzgerald Kennedy No

Yes, LBJ did it Well, he's saying that Mark that uh Wallace did it although I would contend that That's a little far-fetched. I don't think he would have to do that butch washed up to Murder jobs already try to kill the president, but I don't know No, I just don't like to say that He'd have to get a different guy like you don't hire that mr. Magoo of an assassin again like you find

Hit or you find a real one. They'd hire a mr. McGog of an assassin You find a heavy hitter, you find a real one. They'd hire a Mr. McGog of an assassin. Oh, that's a deep cut, fellas. But like, I don't necessarily agree with this one because Malcolm was obviously proved himself as not very effective. And at this point, I don't think that LBJ was really that involved with the assassination.

He was definitely made aware of it beforehand in order, you know, grease the wheels for the people behind the scenes, you know. The mob, the military, the CIA, Ankeldon's bunch, the works, that sort of thing. works, that sort of thing. Apple lock. Four days after Estes' lawyer contacted the DOG with the allegations against LBJ and Wallace, the Texas Bureau of Vital Statistics ruled that there was now clear and convincing evidence that Henry Marshall was murdered. State District Judge Peter Lowry ordered the death certificate of Henry Marshall to be changed to homicide by gunshot wounds.

In the end, Lyndon Baines Johnson and his co-conspirators would never face justice. Then here's like a worksite thing. Yeah. Damn. And then here's like a worksite. Yeah, but this is educational. I got most of the information from that. But that's very interesting. I would. It really, it really turned up the intensity when we got LBJ in the mix.

Yeah. And I liked that. Of course. It kept getting better. I like Mr. Big Dick is back in town. Very well done. They called it a Peter until Johnson became president. Yeah, Johnson was, like, he was taking time out of his busy day of like sexually harassing staffers to do all these murders, which I think is kind of tight.

So he was, I've always heard the tie-ins with him and JFK where like obviously it wasn't just him, you know, unilaterally making these calls, but he was connected. He was, I've definitely heard the thing that he knew ahead of time, the same way like claimed about a lot of these things, you know, 9-11, Pearl Harbor, like, that we know ahead of time and then Snow's what were we gonna do accidentally look the other way. Sometimes on the exact day you need those planes. They're doing some drill in northern Maine or some some shit. Yeah, that's crazy. Damn, I didn't know I was really mostly neutral on LBJ. I was I guess I was slightly positive because I thought like making people like listen to you while you shit rules

That's funny. But other than that, no, he seems like a bad dude now. I don't like straight-up cool guy of the week Not if he helped get rid of Kennedy Kennedy was cool guy the week. I Liked him more you say potato I said, you know 30 years frostborn I Will contend with Kennedy I would contend with Kennedy. I don't know. I don't know if he was a good guy. No, really. You think he was maybe a little skeevy? He made his brother the attorney general.

I think there was a reason. That's true. He spent his free time fucking models and the IRS. F***ing models and actresses. Cool guy of the week. Dude, he f***ed Nancy Pelosi in Prime. Is that a true rumor? Like, it's just... Oh yeah, he definitely...

It's a true rumor. It's a brand new one. Are you not seeing the picture of like, Prime... You see those torpedoes? Yeah, just jugged up. 1960s style, jugged up Nancy Pelosi, I'll jugged up Nancy Pelosi prime. And you know, he was hitting 100 percent. He was. And so I still like him, even if he did that. Smack that ham.

Yeah, like the thing is. Oh, keep in kosher, Mr. President. That's interesting. That was a good one. Yeah. It's so much more detailed than mine. Oh my gosh, this is a tough act to follow. Who's jumping on this grenade? Not me, no, because he had a work-sided page. When we do these conspiracies, sometimes literally I'll like see one of the bullet points because I always just write down pages of it. And I'll admit in the past, I did it on the Helen Keller conspiracy years ago. There would be something that I couldn't find any evidence for online that I just

included anyway, that I just claimed. Where it was like, she didn't give any. So, so I was looking into Israel because, you know, they're, they're evil. And I was researching the skin bank that they have because Israel has a population of like 9.5 million people, but they have the world's largest skin bank. And I was looking into like their data and what they say the skin bank is. And it's like, we almost always get permission to take skin. And it's like, what do you mean to take skin and it's like what do you mean almost always how often are you just?

And then I and because of something about the the religion there a lot of them aren't organ donors So it's like where are you getting the most skin you they've got this surplus of skin Where are they getting it can't all be four skins who? Skins you can't patch a guy together with eight thousand four skins. It just won't work. It'd be disgusting I don't know it might work under some stem cells in that thing so I started thinking about that and and the fact that they're clearly harvesting the bodies of Palestinians and using their their organs and their skin for nefarious means and I wanted to delve deeper into sort of biotechnology and Israeli warfare.

And I found this like huge scattering of information online about how Israel apparently has been, and the title of my conspiracy is beasts of Zion, zoological conspiracies. Yeah, it's- And your evidence are these photos where you type inputs like, show me a hawk with lasers and Absolutely, I have this so so these are based on eyewitness testimonies and press release things

I'll have you know, these are art. These are AI renditions. Of course. I don't have the hard data myself I didn't go behind enemy lines, but there are there are many reports of I didn't go behind enemy lines, but there are many reports of skyborne surveillance from starting in 2011 when a Griffin vulture was captured by a hunter in Saudi Arabia. It was wearing GPS trackers and camera technology. There was a European bee eater, which is another kind of bird found in Turkey.

Same thing, it had audio receiving equipment and its beak had been replaced with audio receiving equipment. There was an eagle shot down in Lebanon that was declared by Lebanon to be an Israeli spy. It was part of, they said it was some research project, but once again it had advanced GPS technology and audio and video receiving equipment on board. Are you still showing the eagle? So go to the... Go to the other chat. The animal fusion. The Jew dolphin.

So dolphins... The dolphins are also being employed by the Israelis. Hamas claimed that it had captured a dolphin spy off the coast of Gaza. That it was outfitted with cameras and other weaponry all the way back in 2015. And there's also another alleged dolphin that was deployed to intercept Hamas naval commandos in 2022. And Iran, state media labeled a robotic dolphin designed by Israel that they had discovered.

The IDF offered no official comment, neither one of those neither confirmed nor denied type things There was also show him the shark that the sharks very interesting So During a same as the dolphin. It's similar impressed by Brad's work cited. Did you shit all over Kyle's? Look I got the dolphin right here. Look at the star of David on its fin. Look at those swimmers. Those are Palestinians.

All right. It's stalking the waters. All right. So in 2010, several shark attacks occurred in the popular Egyptian resort of Sharm El Sheikh and the government blamed it on sharks that were sent by Israel. One shark was found once again, fitted with a GPS tracking device and other electronic surveillance equipment. The Israeli government called the theory absurd.

He's seen jaws one too many times, one official remarked. Sharknado, no, shark massade. All right, show them the dogs. Show them the Robo dogs. Okay, that's gonna convince them because I've got some doubters, okay? We got some doubters out there One where you were trying to you had to go six-pointed stop

Yeah, they don't want you to start David on there. I really had to trick chat chat GPT to get the ones I got So now we all know that the Israelis have been raping Gazans with specially trained fuck commando dogs These are dogs that are bred to have large penises and to be extremely horny. It's been reported many times that they are in fact raping Palestinians with dogs, but the IDF also apparently has been using dog commandos, once again equipped with all sorts of electronic devices. Some say with the skin of the dead Palestinians that they had raped.

I don't know how that would help them or aid them, but I'm reading it right here off this thing I wrote. It seems like Brad knows something about the robot dogs or the molesting dogs. Well, the thing is that apparently Israelis had been doing this for a long time using dogs to rape people like this was happening back in the 1970s in Chile underneath a gusto pinochet

Yeah, yeah, I have that right here in my notes crazy shit So February 18th, senior Iranian military advisor accused Israel and the West of using lizards and chameleons to detect uranium. He claimed that their skin is absorbing atomic waves and revealing the locations of nuclear facilities. The international scientific community, widely quiet on the issue, okay? Almost suspiciously too quiet. Cold-blooded to cold war.

Nuclear lizards, that's the future. And of course, and this is, that is a spy cow. I found no evidence of spy cows, but I thought it'd look cool. You were on a roll with the images, so you just let it ride. They really should have put the star of David on the cow if it was to be a spy. It's a real giveaway.

Hey, it's kosher. Exactly. The idea was that the Palestinians thought they had stolen an Israeli cow and they had made it one of their own when in fact it was a spy cow. Now show them the pig because that's based on evidence. How many do you have? Well look, the Israelis employ a suite of cyborg animals for a number of nefarious purposes. Kyle, these are all just pictures of robot animals with a Star of David on it.

And you can see that it's shopping through a vineyard. A vineyard in the settlement region of Palestine. They use pigs. This is this factual. This is factual. Okay, it's it's it's documented I believe in 2014 to 2016 Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas accused Israelis of releasing robo wild boars to quote terrorize farmers and destroy crops a held boars to quote, terrorize farmers and destroy crops. A 10 year old, the same year was reportedly attacked by one of these robo boars in the West bank, reinforcing local suspicions of international release by settlers.

That sentence doesn't make any sense. Chat, GBT is not always the best. December, 2022, a village elder from Yanoon, which is a place we all know, claimed that Israeli cows were being recruited and trained as spies wearing- Right there in El Noon? Okay.

Yeah, right there, downtown El Noon, right by the quick stop. It used to be a nice neighborhood now, they got spy boars. It's- Right, so the boars were also- Robotically enhanced, yes. And perhaps demonically imbued. You can't disprove it. It's knee in the eye. Yeah. I perhaps demonically imbued. I can't disprove it.

It's me in the eye. Yeah, I did. Yes. The glowing red eye, reminiscent of evil and also the star of David there. Similar imagery. I tried to get the board to be destroying an olive grove, but apparently that's culturally significant. So they wouldn't let me do an olive grove. Is it like an Italian AI? No.

They wouldn't let you do that? I think they do olives there and it's literally a thing that happens. These Palestinians have been raising olives there for like a thousand years and then they come in, they chainsaw their olive trees down while the old couple cries. You haven't seen those videos? I scroll past those things pretty quick. Oh, well, I'm a big fan. I like to see what's going on. If you paid more attention, you know about the robo-boars. I guess you're right, because you've told me about the robo-boars. Now there's mice? Well, yes. The Israelis have also been accused by the Yemenis of also been accused by the Yemenis of a picture over and over and over. It's consistent.

It's consistent. The Yemenis have accused the Israelis of employing electronically imbued rodents to damage crop shipments with their feces and also to spy upon them. So when you say electronically imbued, like does it, you know, You can see right here, there's an exoskeleton. Well, I mean, like, the, according, not according to chat GPT being asked to make, like, you know, the most robotic mouse possible. Yes.

But, like, I'm curious what they claim the actual, like, uh... Cameras, weaponry, and GPS equipment. And I know on the dogs, they put these microphones on the dog so they can talk to the dog and give its orders while they watch it carry them out on camera remotely. Hmm. So yeah, the Israelis, as always, extra evil. I also, uh, I did a second one

But but I'll do that later. I just got like a quick overview of the Ken McElroy situation He was the only who was shot by like 40 people, but there are no witnesses I hope you have work cited on that one as well. I do, I do. Wikipedia, Wikipedia is my work cited. Nice, nice. I want Taylor to come back. I think Taylor's got something interesting for us. I've seen him pawing over his pages for days now. Do you remember?

Did he give us any hints? I'm trying to remember what we said pre-show. I honestly don't remember either now. Yeah, I remember we were talking about the format of our presentations and he showed us papers that he was flipping through, but I don't remember the topic. It's dead internet theory, I believe. Oh, yeah, that's what I was... I talked to him about that yesterday, I think.

Did Taylor phone a friend and get help in his presentation? No. It sounds like he talked to you repeatedly. You had comments on... I hope you're in his work side. Yeah, yeah. I feel like he's putting his name on the group project. I can go next to get it out of the way. I mean I wanted to know like a

oh like a couple follow-up things for Kyle. Like what did you discover new about the skin bank? Because I remember when you were sending me articles about that like two years ago and I'm like this is so reprehensible it just feels like how could this be such an evil thing be real? But then it is true. Well, is that even their world? Their end of the story. I've seen interviews at the skin bank of like skin bank workers or whatever, and they're like, oh no, it's wonderful what we do here. We help burn victims. And Israel is often so often attacked that we need tons of skin because we're always getting burnt up by terrorists

And it's like no, that's just the numbers don't add up for that You're not so continuously under attack that your population of nine and a half million people needs the world's largest Skin bank for just your private like usage. Are they selling it? I've like I got a theories The theories is that they are selling the skin and the organs internationally. I mean, my, I always assumed that it was just because, you know, like most of the people there are Ashkenazi and they're living in the desert.

Like they're just getting sunburned all the time. I thought it was- Yeah. Yeah. I'm not even joking. It makes a lot of sense. Maybe it's like, it's some dude who's like, my family's been here for 3000 years. Maybe it's like it's some dude Who's like my family's been here for 3,000 years and it's like you're Polish You're not meant to be in this amount of Sun brother you're from Philly. What are you doing?

I actually I actually know I've read a little bit about this skin trade and like the 2000s it was actually found out that a sort of like a morgue or some sort of like mortuary business operating in New Jersey was engaging in the illegal organ trade. And it was operated by Israeli nationals. And this was somewhat connected to another case in Israel where an American citizen was

actually organ harvested when his their family got the body, the eyes and several organs were missing. Hmm. Pretty ghastly. But at the same time, you do have to, you almost have to respect the grind of how many pies Israel has a finger in. It's like, wow, like those guys are working like they're they're they're grinding. So good for them, but also not not so good. You shouldn't be selling the skin of genocide victims. That's probably not a good thing. Oh, my God. Preachy, preachy, preachy. I know I'm such a fucking lib.

We swear police, they, preachy. I know I'm such a fucking lib. You square. At least the Nazis were making lamps. That would that's so ghoulish. Like imagine going to someone's house and be like, wow, an antique lamp. And it's like, what's that? It's like, you know what it is. It's it's genocide victim skin.

Like, do they have they found actual lamps made of skin like like any sort of mass produced from any genocide like ever made of skin? I've never thought about it before, really. It was like it was supposedly on it during. That's how you'd know. Oh, yeah. It's got like a nipple. It's got a human nipple on there. But like, suppose-

It's a nasty pork rind. Yeah. But like, supposedly after some camps were liberated, some lamps and books were bound in human skin and they were found in the possession of like, some official working in the camp. I don't think it was widespread, but just some sort of ghoulish things somebody fucked up did.

I can see that because like we know that like serial killers have like made lamps and shit out of human skin. Using it for like a book cover doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Like it seems like our skin would be it for like a book cover doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Like it seems like our skin would be horrible for like durability. Right. Like compared to cows, compared to all the animals. No way. Once you tan it. No, it'd be great. It's like I've had gloves that were made out of pig skin.

Our footballs used to be made out of pig skin. That's the same as our skin. Once you tan it and treat it, it's going to be great. I forgot my conspiracy lighting earlier. I wanted to hang dang it. I was looking for my fog machine too, but it got, I can't find it. They, they, Do you remember when you turned the fog machine on like years ago and you were like coughing? While I was moving the other day, I was like, oh, my old fog machine. And I was like, still got some juice in it. And like my girlfriend is like feverishly like packing crystal away and like

stuffing paper in it so it won't break and I'm going errrr fucking pumping the whole house full of smoke before she realizes it. She's coughing and wheezing the fire alarms are going off. It's great. So something fun you can do with a fog machine is that uh all the fog machine juices is just watered down vape juice and fog machines are just giant vapes so i like had a genius idea one time during like a live stream or something that i was doing to just so that i because i wasn't allowed to like vape on tiktok live so i was like okay i'm just gonna like have this fog machine going with like watered down like nicotine vape juice in it. You hotboxed a vape. I just hotboxed

like the room I was in with a you know, with nicotine fog machine fog and then like five minutes in. I'm just like, oh, guys, I need to. Oh, I'm oh, God, no. And! It's in your eyes! It's in my eyes! That's a good idea. That's an expensive way to smoke nicotine, though.

You gotta use a lot of... You gotta burn through a lot of juice, I'd imagine. Not that much. A little goes a long way. I need to buy one and try it. It seems fun. You don't have a fog machine. Every adult man should have one. I don't. You didn't put me on the fucking spot and embarrass me like that.

You know, point out is lack of fog machines. Not cool. All right, what do you seemed excited? You seem ready to rock, ready to roll. I'm that guy who likes to get the presentation finished and then enjoy the rest of the class. All right, Woody, you seemed excited. You seemed ready to rock, ready to roll. I wanna hear. I'm that guy who likes to get the presentation finished and then enjoy the rest of the class. Okay. Well, I'm happy to go too, if that's what you meant,

but you can. Zach, bring it up. Meet Markeif Morris. Thank God you put who it was presented by. In case you had questions. I'm expecting fucking MLAA format. Why the fucker signed his work? We'll be answering who is Mark Heaf-Morris, the incident, what happened next, and those three sections

were meant to be removed. Add section time. I'm excited for section time. I started with a template. All right. This is Mark Keefe Morris in 2017. He was a power forward with the Washington Wizards. He was a good player. He never got an all-star invitation, but he did win a championship a few years later. Solid starter. Side note, this is unrelated to the conspiracy. I've always thought, given the crime rates, Washington Bullets was a more racist name than the Washington Redskins. But that's just me. Fitting though. This is Marquise, this is Marquif after rolling his ankle. He left the game and he was ruled out from playing.

In the second game of the Eastern Conference Finals in 2017, look at that ankle on the left picture. That guy's ruined. He was unable to leave the game under his own power and he was ruled out. This was not a good thing. They needed his help. In the very next game, he scored 16 points, pulled in six rebounds and had a handful of sexy assists. It was his best performance not just of the series but of the entire playoffs that year

and he showed no signs of injury. There's a picture of him in his, uh, Washington wizard's uniform, but the thing is I'm lying. That's not Mark. He's Morris. That's Mark. He's identical twin brother. Marcus. Marcus Morris is his identical brother who also plays in the NBA.

These two guys are incredibly close to the point that they have matching tattoos all over their body. I swear to God, this is true. Fact check. What? These guys are so heckin ride or die when they were from high school to college, they would only go if the college would accept both of them on the same team.

Once they made it to the NBA, obviously they were drafted by different teams, that's how it works. Mark Keefe, our boy here in question with the rolled ankle, signed at a reduced salary at a discount so they could bring his brother onto the Phoenix Sons also. These brothers live together. These brothers have a joint bank account together as adults.

Their mom has warned any future wives that they're going to have to accept the four of them cohabitating in the same house together. This is a ride or die pair of brothers. in the same house together. This is a ride or die pair of brothers. You might be wondering if if they're the kind of ride or die guys who would pull a scam on the NBA, right? Like it's another level from just sharing a house to like swapping out

and having your twin brother play in your role. Oh, they've done it before. They did it in amateur ball. They switched their jersey right on the flipping bench. It happened real quick. He hurt his ankle. I fouled out. I gave him a little limp as I headed back in

like I was hurt. And I kept playing. Dude, what I contend, oh shit, the last slide's not here. That's horse shit. Anyway, the last slide says this is not the natural where an injured athlete comes back and regains glory. This is the parent trap. Oh, okay. I was getting, I thought of the parent trap. Yeah. When I was listening, this is great. I'm glad that they scammed the NBA. It's duplicity. Okay. I haven't seen that. It's duplicate and duplicity.

What's happening? So you get spent. Anyway, clearly I like your theory. I'm shocked they have the same tattoos. I'm like not a hundred percent that you're not just fucking with me and just duplicated that man's photo because obviously they're like twins are identical. I get that. But those are exceptionally identical identical twins if you know what I mean. Like they got the same goatee like they got the same tattoos but they're not like the same and they're complicated tattoos. There's lots of cursive

handwriting all over this chest and arm. Can you pull it up again? That's great. The tattoos specifically feel like they're just trying to trick people. If you go this way, you can see their nipples are slightly different. But I know for a fact this is true. In game three of the Eastern Conference final, there was no pregame nipple check to ensure which player it was. Tweak your nipples, bro! They're gonna find out! Tweet them! I mean, if you were fibbing, you got me. Because I believe it totally. They fibbed, and that's great. Having a twin would be so great. I feel like it would open all sorts of

doors for you. Especially when you're going through school and early jobs and stuff, and it's not the end of the world, what they're doing there is on a national stage, a global stage. Hilarious. The Queen is here. I can't believe I forgot my hat for the presentation. It ruined everything. You look like the Queen of England. What the fuck? Jackie Maeve made that, huh? Okay, Jackie Maeve made the hat. Yes.

Oh, you're not amazing at arts and crafts? There's some fucking like gemstone in the middle or something. It goes like that. If you're audio only, you're missing out because Woody has like a coronation hat on and there's a big green bow and it's all aluminum foil and it crinkles when he moves it. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. You know what I like about that conspiracy? Tremendously low stakes. good ones too, where it's like, yeah, you know, people fool each other all the time. And if I were a twin, like Kyle was saying, like, I 100% would be doing hijinks with my twin. Has there ever been a time when you'd be like, oh, I've only had a twin to send in today,

I've got a stomach virus and I need to like qualify for the team, you know, like, that would be so clutch to be like, oh evil Kyle. I need you We could like share the duties when we went to college and just share a degree afterwards, you know We don't have to have one identity, of course But but if we could split the workload, I'd be happy for that If you could somehow like make double the income and pay half the taxes like if you could work that out somehow there's got to be some twin scam because they're genetically the same too like like yeah, you can't do a DNA check on him Yeah, there's nothing you know there's no distinguishing

What I think there was a case where one twin was guilty of English then like like what if what if he is what if? What if they I think there was a case where one of the twins had raped someone and there Was DNA evidence against him, but he's like We're not saying who did it firm and they're like fuck That's not nearly as light-hearted as what he's Idea I'm just trying to get double off on door dash or something. He's the one doing all the right. Well, I don't know.

I believe already. I believe this happens so far. 2017. Okay, I was thinking gambling sports gambling was legal at the moment. The under over on points scored per game ah The only thing is sports game like basketball stuff like that usually goes the other way where they underperform They don't have the best performance of their play. I like that's harder to guarantee it's easier to you know come out and Do poorly would they the same year?

Would you share your girl with your twin because Because in that in that in the movie, do you feel city? He's he creates those copies of himself and he's like, did you fuck my wife? Did you fuck my wife? And it's like, I'm you. I fucked my wife. Are these were these players like? I know they're identical in every way, but were their stat lines their ability within the league similar enough they would get away with it? Because you said that one guy in it during the thing, but I think actually the healthy brother was did not have as good a career as the injured brother. But that doesn't support my point. So I didn't bring it up.

And that's totally fair. I'm sorry exposed it Because that's important. Okay. Well, I'm all in on that one. I'm definitely all in on Brad's LBJ RF or JFK one because Like you had a work cited man. I believe you and I think only one of the links was Wikipedia. It's Multiplicity not duplicity. That's the Michael Keaton movie. Duplicity is some other bullshit Multiplicity that's the comedy where he makes he keeps making copies of himself He comes up with the machine that'll do it But and there to do his like extra chores and stuff But then the copy of him is tired of fixing the sink, too

So it makes a copy of himself to fix the sink while he does this and that and the other But the copy is a little dumber because it's a copy of a copy But it's also lazy and it doesn't want to fix the sink either so it makes a copy of himself until they've got like a retarded Michael Keaton walking around like unable to fix anything just being a sweetheart good movie good all right I know the prestige I know we want to let his dog go last because Tom's got a setup out there in the hallway. So I guess I'll do mine. I did two in case one of you guys happen to do something too similar to mine that wouldn't

work. But the one I had more fun researching is an older conspiracy theory in the world of the internet. It's dead internet theory. And basically dead internet theory. And basically dead Internet theory, it's been around for over a decade, but it's one of those conspiracies that 10 years ago, 15 years ago, everyone was like, this is nonsense. Who stands to gain from, you know, the Internet being dead and being a like a Potemkin village style thing. But now people are coming around to it. And the core, the principle assertion

of dead internet theory is that, frankly, an alarming amount of global internet traffic, engagements, likes, comments, bot behavior is totally inorganic. And that we are now at a point as of 2024, according to a few different data analytics firms I looked at, where we are now at a point as of 2024, according to a few different data analytics firms I looked at, where we are now true minorities as real people on the internet as of 2024. Some companies like Cloudflare say it that

happened years and years ago. The more conservative, not conservative like Republican conservative like in their estimates, they're just now saying it that like yeah we are now a minority. There are more bots than us. And so that's the core of it. And I think it's really reasonable because you look at some of these companies, CloudFlare, Imperva, a lot of them make annual reports called a bad bot report, where they use their data, their analytics, and they analyze the percentage of internet traffic that they believe to be organic or inorganic, like bots. And like I said, 2024 was the first time Imperva said,

we are true minorities. And you might say like, oh, well, that doesn't make sense because there's no way 50% of every comment section on Reddit, on YouTube, on Twitter is all inorganic. And that's true. It's not 50% because you have to break down the types of bots. Not all the bots online are malevolent or insidious or something. They estimated that 14% of global online traffic in 2024 was good bots.

So the kind of stuff that like crawls search engines to index web pages, just like useful stuff. And then, yeah, exactly. And so that stuff's fine. It's not messing with your ability to use the internet. But then they also said that an all time high of, I think it was 38% of internet traffic, this company Imperva estimated is bad bots and a bad bot a

lot of the data firms I found had different definitions for what they called a bad bot but the I call them linkers the the clankers yeah I saw that I saw that new I saw the first slur for the robots and I like clankers and so they basically said these clankers there's 38% of the internet being taken up by these guys. And a bad bot can mean anything from like a malevolent malware program that's trying to steal your identity and take out some fraudulent loan and rush with it, all the way down to a bot that just harasses you on social media because something's gone haywire and it's just bothering you. And so like all this to say a bad bot just means unwanted behavior, annoying, unproductive

behavior. And that's 38% of the internet. And this was from a very, very conservative estimation source. Like I said, Cloudflare estimated that, I think their number was 65% of global internet traffic is totally inorganic bots AI, not real. There's no person sitting there up voting that Reddit post 10,000 times. There's no person retweeting or liking that post a million times. It's not real. And so basically to establish this, we have to say there's both the means and the incentive to flood

the internet with bots. And with a lot of conspiracies, you have kind of a core head honcho bad guy where it's like, yes, this is the sinister guy who's flooding the internet with bots, but that's not what it is. It's a lot of convergent, independent interests. So like the entertainment industry uses bots on sites like Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit to create fake conversations to drive AstroTurf narratives to push people to go to the theater. They've been caught doing this. And so like that's why maybe you go on Reddit and you see some post that's like,

oh, Iron Man 24 is coming out. And then you go to the comments and everybody's raving. They're excited. They're jubilant over the prospect of Iron Man 24. And the point of that, those bots doing that, is to target you. And you're looking at it going, huh, well, I'm a human in 2025. And so most of my reality is constructed by what the consensus on every screen I see throughout the day is. And so constructed by what the consensus on every screen I see throughout the day is. And so maybe I'm missing out. Man, I guess there's a huge amount of organic attention towards Iron Man 24. I need to go see it.

And so that was an intentional way for the entertainment industry to use bots to manipulate your perception of reality in order to make you feel like like you were missing out. So you had to get there and do it. The University of Zurich, over the past half decade, have done a ton of research into bots, as far as using bots, to manipulate and create manufactured consensus in forums like Reddit or Twitter or Facebook, Instagram. And what they found, I think it was earlier this year, or maybe last year, the University of Zurich did yet another one, where they were like, you know what, I'm interested to see how quickly we could create an army of bots that not only

manipulated people's perceptions on Reddit, because this was a specifically Reddit study, but also how quickly will they assimilate into the rest of the site? So that it's not just, hey, why is this account just commenting a hundred times about Iron Man 24? Creating a real looking identity that was commenting on different forums and everything. And what they said is, quote, it was phenomenally easy. It was so fast. They said that within a couple of days, because all they had to do was train the bot army on Reddit style speaking, how people type, what the narratives they wanted push, what the ones they wanted kind of depressed were. And they said almost immediately,

they started leaving comments, they seemed to be organic, and they were rapidly able to start manipulating people's perceptions on these forums. And there was no way for people. This is the kind of thing that just a few years ago, or if this wasn't a study and if it was some like DARPA program, people would go, oh, you're crazy. This is no, that's just, you know, people are excited about this silly movie, but that's not the case. It's totally astroturfed. It's not real. We need to be more on guard than ever for this shit, because I can totally see how 10, 15 years ago, the dead internet theory, people were like, I don't know, man, it doesn't seem that way. Now in the last two years in particular, since the explosion of AI and the ability to train

these things even more rapidly and deploy them in mass, like the internet is as dead as it's ever been now. If truly over half of internet traffic is inorganic. But the scary thing is we're moving to a debtor and debtor and debtor and debtor internet every single day, every single month, every single year, because now these government organizations, these NGOs, organizations like DARPA,

large industrial firms, entertainment houses, they all know now that this works. Like it's not in the theory stage anymore. They know they can manipulate people's perceptions in order to drive certain purchasing decisions, certain outlooks, get them to vote a certain way. The 2016 election, like that's like small potatoes. It was a big deal at the time,

but like 10,000 Russian bots in 2016, like think of how much changed in 10 years technologically and what's possible now. And so it's not just evil oligarchs and Americans, it's foreign governments. We know Israel, China, Turkey, Ukraine, Belarus, the United States, a lot of these countries have been caught red-handed doing it. Oh yeah. And so we've established that the means to do it is there and the incentive is there because the proof is in the pudding. They can manipulate your perspective on things. A big example of this is way back in 2014, Reddit fucked up when they posted a traffic

report. And it was meant to be a lighthearted thing where they're like, hey, this is where people use Reddit. And here's like the list of the most Reddit addicted cities. And then, you know, the purpose being that people could go, oh, I live in Milwaukee or I live in St. Louis or, you know, Dubai. I wonder where I am on the list. But they immediately had to take it down because they fucked up and they showed

the most red-edicted city was Eglin Air Force Base, an Air Force Base with only 2,000 people that was responsible for somehow hundreds of thousands of accounts and all of these things. And it's like, really, that's really fascinating. And what did they do? A US Air Force Base?

A US Air Force Base, yeah, Eglin Air Force Base. Home of the 688th Cybers Space Test Squadron, I believe. Yeah. And then actually on that most red-edicted cities list, the number two city was Oakbrook, Illinois, which is also home to some other big spooky data center. Okay. Yeah, I didn't know about the number two one.

I just know that then I guess the top two were both compromised, inorganic, not real. And remember, this is way back in 2014. Shit has advanced a lot in that time. And so they immediately had to delete that. And like Tom was saying, this wasn't an Air Force base where they're like, I can't wait to be like Top Gun and fly around. It's like, no, this was a, they were a cyber warfare, a cyber division. They were studying how to manipulate people's perceptions of reality online, how to manufacture consensus

on different opinions about a potential conflict globally, trying to get more people on board and more people to change opinions. They were studying this intensely. We also know the US government did it through DARPA, which is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. And anytime I've heard anything about DARPA, it's always very sketchy.

And they still maintain to this day, like, yeah, just cause you fucking caught us nine times now doing this doesn't mean we do it. And so they'll deny it up and down, but they have been caught multiple times using bots to try and manipulate people's perspectives about geopolitical happenings and events. And it's really the what DARPA is doing with the bots and the manufacturer consensus and whatnot. It is the same shit

that we mock China and Russia for doing with their internet. It's the same fucking thing. It's just us doing it. And so like, it's less of a hot button thing. We don't really draw that much attention to our own seedy nonsense comparatively to our geopolitical enemies. But the big thing is this is not even a political left right issue. It's we are being deceived intentionally, actively, and systematically by powerful government organizations. And that has led to, and will continue to lead to, further explosion of the bot and inorganic content online

to where 10 years from now, it may really feel like you're alone because we already have a phenomenally siloed internet now compared to what it used to be. Like we've got what? What are their 10 websites? Yeah. Remember 2002?

It's like, ah, nothing on E-bombs world. I go to fucking, I gotta go to, I buy no black sheep now. I gotta go to something awful. Dude, I would dispute that because I remember when I was a kid clearing the internet history after a good porn Masturbation session like all right clear all this but then there's nothing there

And I'm like nothing seems worse than like big booties calm so I'm just like fuck Coca-Cola calm they wasn't thought I was gonna be a soda engineer or something like that I'm like going to Pepsi calm andcom, just products. So there's some search history. I remember doing USA.gov. I didn't know any websites. I was just looking around the room. I was like, guys are sozaying my way out of it. I got a Mountain Dew three times, just over and over. The DARPA thing is unbelievably suspicious. They even have a subsection called the SMISC, the Social Media in Strategic Communications. And they've been active since publicly since 2011. I'm sure prior to that they were doing their thing. But the entire purpose there, their stated purpose is to use bots, astroturfed internet behavior in order to come quote combat misinformation, which misinformation is whatever

DARPA doesn't like, like whatever the government doesn't like. Like no, nobody ever fact checks something good for their side. You know, if a story came out, like when Trump is like deporting some person for being anti-Israel at a protest, they don't see a sign and go, hmm, I don't think that's factually correct. We got to get rid of that guy. Like, no, like if someone had a sign there that was like, Trump saves a thousand puppies a day. That's totally a lie, but they wouldn't be fact-checking that, would they? Like, so any sort of fact-checking, any sort of quote-unquote misinformation control is just about narrative control in reality.

And so, and something else, this is towards the end of it. So I think I established that a huge amount of the internet is fake. It's increasing more and more every year. Even by conservative estimates, it's over half of the internet at this point that is AI bots, not real, inorganic. There's no person on the other end.

That makes me feel better though, because because I like sometimes when I see a controversial Reddit post like if it's maybe police violence or some riot or something or an Israeli Palestinian thing I'll go and I'll read the comments and it's like oh my god are these real people is this how real human beings think about anything? Like, they seem so radical and like, stupid, sometimes imagining that some of that, at least is just a bad bot or a stupid bot or a bot that's meant to inflame someone like me so that I write some paragraph trying to disprove their ridiculous thing they just could be, it could be a lot from the US government trying to because i remember youtube that's inorganic to get you to think well i don't want to be the odd

man out because we're humans we're so we're so social no one wants to feel on the out and so you see it 15 years ago like youtube comments used to be normal decent people that you could have a conversation with like i i distinctly remember like being in the comments for hours after I'd post a video being like, yeah, yeah, it's this, that and the other. Oh, yeah, that is. Yeah. I'm in Tennessee in this one. You recognize the sky like having nor like normal human. Now those people are a bunch of weirdos, not like us.

I'm glad you like it. I was afraid I would look silly. No, you look sick. And then this is like a side little addendum to the dead internet thing. But I thought it also helped elucidate the reality of how much more shallow the internet is than what we like to believe. Do you remember on Google how you used to be able to search something like baseball and it would say 1.7 billion results achieved in 0.7 seconds or whatever up there at the top. They've since removed that. They don't have that feature on Google anymore,

which kind of stinks because that was always fun. But it was never that many results ever. Like type in baseball on Google, there should be billions of results for baseball, billions with a B. There are 26 pages and 243 actual results on Google. It gives you the option to repeat the search with the omitted results included.

Oh, okay, so I'm sure that's why it's only at 26 pages and not, you know, 476,000 pages as it should be, you know, so that, that makes sense. No, it's still that include a limit, uh, include previously not included results option gave me only 22 pages for baseball there. And so for years, they were saying billions of results, hundreds of millions of results for all these things and 99.9 like that's barely hyperbole 99.9% of people never leave the front page of any sort of result most don't even scroll all the way down you're a thousand percent right pornhub pulls the same scam if you type

like Elden Ring characters feet in pornhub it'll act like there's 26 pages of results but you get past page one or two and there's no more videos. I knew you'd be on my side. Yeah, it's like the internet is so much more shallow than we think and it's so much more artificial than we think. And it was, I'm blown away by it. I like when they step on it. I had actually posted a meme once that had referenced how all the dark secrets

are actually on the second page of Google. And then I got hundreds of DMs asking me, how do you get to the second page of Google? Well, it's the two. I was like, damn, it's, yeah, it's the two. Damn. It's hopeless. I'm curious, have you guys, Brad or Tom, have you guys heard about that? Because I did more on the dead internet thing. The Google thing was like towards the end. Have you heard about that? The amount of results being so mismatched? And so something that was really interesting about the Google results thing is there was an like kind of this expose recently also let me know if I

need to turn my mic up. You sound good. Okay cool there was an expose recently and I say recently but was like probably like a year ago or so, about the way that, like basically why Google search had gotten so much worse so quickly. And, because we can all remember the point probably in 2021, 2022, where just, it's like, hey, Google doesn't work now, this sucks. It turns out that it was the result of one specific guy at Google

who got, you know, basically he was put in charge of the, you know, Google search or whatever, and he came up with this idea like a plan to increase the total amount of Google search traffic in order to increase the number of basically ad impressions that Google AdWords can sell. So it's like, you know, the amount of ads that they can show on... basically the amount of ads that they can show to people who were searching for things on Google. The way they did that was they just made the results twice as bad, so you had to scroll twice as long to find what you're looking for.

That was actually straight up their methodology. And it immediately worked. And the guy was like, hey, yeah, you know, they're like, check it out. Like I've increased search volume 100% overnight. And I guess Google was just like, you know, good job. And yeah, no. So that guy got promoted, I guess, presumably to ruin other things. But they're still kind of trying to unfuck that. And I think at that same time period when they just sort of been like,

oh, well, shit, we've got enough of a market share that people, we could make our product twice as bad and people won't even notice or really even say anything. They'll just be like, oh, I guess it's just twice as bad now. And I think that was around the same time. They were like, hey, let's, first of all, let's stop twice as bad now. And I think that was around the same time. They were like, hey, first of all, let's stop pulling as many results when you have to.

Because if you want to search for anything on Google now, you have to use the search flags, like the search operators, file type, whatever, in text, using quotes, using all that shit. And so you really need to get fucking specific with what you're asking Google for. And you need to be using it closer to like a find and replace or something where you're

looking for actual specific strings if you wanted to index the whole thing. But I think, yeah, they just sort of realized, hey, it would be way cheaper for us to only pull the first 400 results or something instead of, you know, index, you know, all 2 billion every time. And I think it also ties in hand in hand with, you know, and I'm going to get a little conspiratorial here. You know, I'm sure that's gonna be shocking given the context of this episode, but I think they are using that, like, they are absolutely, I think, using that as a form of censorship. Sure. Like, I remember that happened to RFK in the primaries. Like, you know, you tried to, like,

look up, you know, anything for his campaign platform and you got brought to everyone else's. Yeah, yeah, they did. Where you would try to look him up and it would be like, did you mean Kamala Harris? That might have been a good idea though. Sometimes the bots are trying to lead us to the promised land. This is one of those cases. That's just arm rails. Yeah, I'm not a fan of RFK by any means, but I do think that Google did just straight up put their thumb on the scale with that,

whether or not, you know, your thoughts on that. If he was the president right now, oh my God. Like, you think this is wacky? If RFK was president, we'd be fucking violent. No one would watch the State of the Union. It'd be the exact same. We'd still be talking about the Epstein list. We'd be dropping seed oils on Iran.

We probably would. It'd just be giant, giant amounts of Red 40. Just dumping right on their heads. People like R.F.K. Juniors and the Epstein's too. Red 40 sticks to kids. Oh yeah. That it does. R.F.K.'s statement on that was hilarious. He he's like I've had Epstein at my house I've had Bill Cosby over at my house I've had and then I've had Epstein I've had a who was the one who like yeah I've had PDT in my house and I've had Weinstein at my house what's the big deal and I'm like stop talking. Next you're gonna say that you've never had your wife commit suicide. Dude, that shit's so... Dude, cheating on her so many times and like keeping a memoir about it is like... Psycho.

That's what alpha males do, Taylor. Dispicable. That's just... Just despicable immoral behavior. But yeah, I'm totally on board with them using Google that way to censor. despicable that just Despicable immoral behavior. Yeah, yeah I'm totally on board with them using Google that way to censor for the like I was trying to find more examples of the dead internet theory where like it was clearly bots being used to push certain narratives and One that I couldn't find sufficient evidence for

As far as like a direct this then this then this like chain, but I am convinced is all of the Kamala Harris memeing, all the coconuts, all the brat, like that was the, to me, that was the most clearly inorganic astroturfed foisted top down thing that was the most clearly inorganic, astroturfed, foisted, top-down thing that was being pushed by the same kind of bots that push all sorts of things. And it's not, again, it's not a political thing because bots pushed Trump too. That was a PR group around a table like throwing shit at the wall, like, what if this and that? We got Young and Perky and a rebel and and But we won't go against anything that the octogenarian has been doing for the last four years And I was stick that's all fine

Like that's where she lost like so many kudos in my idea in my estimation when they asked her if she would do anything different You know and there was one point she said something like I'm going to food prices are going to be lowered on day one. And the guy from Fox News is like, why don't you lower them now? It's like, fuck. Great question. Damn it. I'm the vice president here. That hurts me.

You can just feel the difference between organic and inorganic sometimes. Like for better or worse the up swelling under Trump back when the Donald was big like in 2015 or 2016 or whatever and reddit seemed to just get taken over by conservativism like the whole front page would just be and it wouldn't be good posts it'd be like the Trump train, like a car, an animated choo-choo train. I don't know that that's felt like organic to me. That's what bots do, right? They take a totally liberal place and they took it over like that. Trump got fewer votes than Hillary,

right? It's not like there was this huge up swelling of Trump love. That's what it would be like if bots promoted your posts. That's all I agree. But I think it's also what it would be like if a group of people who had never really felt represented before, the ones who voted for him that never vote, had suddenly had this outlet online, like, wait, y'all all agree?

Y'all are like me, you think this is funny? Great, upvote. Everything upvote. It seemed like a coordinated, like it was definitely manipulating the vote system But it was like suddenly there was a subreddit where their thing second only to making funny content was up voting everyone's content and like get and sticking it sticking a finger in the eye of like Liberal media censorship, right? If you said anything you got got banned from the Donald. Oh yeah, that's all. That's all.

Well, that's Reddit. Yeah. No, the conservative Reddits are special in that regard. If you go to the trans Reddit right now. Reddit is the most censored site on the entire internet. There's no site more heavily censored. I'd say that all of Reddit is basically as heavily censored now as you know the conservative subreddits were probably you know circa 2015 16 17

Like now it's just because I think it just has to do with the kind of person who wants to be a reddit mod now It's tribalism. It's tribalism. It's protection. It's protectionism And it's also like propping up certain narratives that won't hold water without that sort of That sort of protectionism. I know I there's a subreddit that's about subreddit drama It's yes, that's what they do and I saw them focusing on I think it was one of the trans Subreddits the trans men are being Treated badly there the the people born with vaginas who now want to be short hairy fat men are being treated badly there. The people born with vaginas who now want to be short, hairy, fat men are finding that

there's no love for them there. And that really the movement seems to be about feminizing and turning dudes into pretty girls. There's a big audience for that, but not so much for turning women into short, fat, hairy dudes, and they're getting mistreated there Wow, so the trans people with dicks are more popular than the trans people with vaginas Yes, not only yet and more except there's way more of them. I

Think right there would have to be I look I don't have any statistics But well, that's the other thing. Maybe there's not like, you know, maybe there's not and they're just not seen as much because of that, that, because they're short, bigotry within the trans community. Those bigots. But that like, uh, Reddit as a whole, just the way it's set up with the upvote system is so easily plugged into by the bot manipulation tactics where you can just deploy a few thousand bots and totally take over a Reddit forum and downvote the things you don't like, have the things you do like up voted, astroturf the conversation in the comments. Like that that does happen all

the time and that's not specific to Reddit. It happens on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, these things as well. It's just the specifically the up vote and front page system incentivizes it and makes it more make more easily to more easy to manipulate. Yeah, it's the only thing that gives the general public direct access to the ranking algorithm. YouTube used to. That was a bright and shiny day when they used to actually care what people thought about videos that got uploaded and show them to the people who subscribed to you. What a novel concept.

Tell me about it. Yep, not anymore. Now it's just a total crapshoot. Yeah, that's so weird. And I mean, that's clearly also about being able to shape your own narrative on your own website. Because if it's all user input that shapes your front page, then you are not in control. You are just hosting content, which is what YouTube was supposed to be. But they don't want to just host content. They want to shape opinion on a global scale because they're the second, third and maybe the number one most visited site.

I thought Google used to be one and then YouTube was two or three or something. It was something like that. Like imagine the power that you used to be able to get. You could put your your video and pets and animals and suddenly you're on the front page to the third most popular website on the planet. It was an incredible amount of power to give you a user base. Mad Fientist- YouTube is too. I didn't realize it was too. Chris Bounds Yeah, YouTube is number two.

Chris Bounds Yeah, as far as the Donald stuff and whatnot, I could totally buy it that there was some bot shit going on on the Donald trying to I could totally buy it that there was some bot shit going on on the Donald trying to prove that up and make it big. I'm sure it is like that. Yeah. Like this is that's why I said this is not a politics specific conspiracy. It is people in power will use whatever tools they have at their disposal to manipulate our thinking and manufacture consensus on issues.

And that's right. That's left. They all do it. And it's corporate. It's often corporate or foreign governments. I can recommend. Yeah. Go ahead, Brad. I can recommend a book on that propaganda by Yakes Ouhl. Yake Ouhl, actually. Very good. Very good.

Also wrote a book called Technological Society. Yak-ul actually. Very good. Very good. Also wrote a book called Technological Society. Very good stuff. Essentially talking about the real how the sausages made. Yak-ul. Spell it. G-A-C-Q-U-E-S. I believe even Tal might have not known that spelling.

E-L-L-U-L. Okay, so Jacques. No. Okay. Brad, I thought you said Jacques. Jacques. I looked up Yaqub too and I'm like, isn't that the black guy that invented wife and polo?

Isn't that conspiracy? The other book's called Trichnological Society. There's conspiracy unfolding before our eyes if you look at the Paramount merger with Skydance and Colbert being fired and the the late show being taken off the air permanently and all that stuff. The new episode of South Park I think it came out today. I don't know if y'all saw it. Oh yes. It's the so there's been like three years now where there I think it came out today. I don't know if y'all saw it. Oh, yes. It's the- I haven't seen it yet. So there's been like three-

You know, that's Paramount. There's been like three years now where there haven't been any South Park episodes. Woody, they've been doing these specials for Paramount and they had some contractual stuff going on between Comedy Central and Paramount on the distribution rights. Who was gonna get the next season?

Where it was gonna go? Where it would be streamed? Who would have exclusivity over the library, et cetera? And it was a big deal. And it's been going on for a while. Matt and Trey tweeted recently that this merger is fucking up the new season. They said it plainly on Twitter. They got a deal done within two days after that tweet.

$300 million a year. Ten episodes a year for five years. And then we figure things out then and go again. So, a $1.5 billion deal, five years, 50 episodes, 10 a year, five years. For South Park. For South Park. The richest comedians in the world now,

the most successful comedians of all time now. And so, today, the new episode comes out, episode one of the 27th season, maybe the 28th? I think it's 27. Oh my God, it's a takedown of the Trump administration. It explores the Paramount merger with CBS. It explores sticking religion back in schools, whether you like it or not. And Trump, who traditionally, ever since he won that original election, they were having him portrayed by Mr. Garrison, the gay teacher, and kind of having fun with that.

But they've dropped that act. Right away, they go to Mr. Garrison's house to give him what for, and he's like, No, no, I'm all out of politics now. He's with his boyfriend with a little Pomeranian. And so now they have a Trump face. They made him Canadian. I don't know about that. They made him a little Canadian. That was weird. But it's not a little back to the South Park movie when Saddam Hussein was the like

it's Saddam's face like on that weird animation and its head like yaps, yaps like this, they've done that to Trump and it's like Trump looking all nasty. But like it's animated in a way where it's like yeah that's that's just a picture of Trump they shit on him the whole time they showing his tiny dick the whole episode the whole episode is him with a baby dick having sex with with Satan himself they can show that on Paramount even like it's completely uncensored I don't want to spoil the ending of this episode because it went so far

That it reminded me of that scene from V for vendetta when the comedy hour show makes fun of the Chancellor too much And then the Chancellor sends the goons to go like yeah, it's like beat those people down and blackbag them It was it's the at the end of the episode They completely like leave the South Park universe and they're like, we have agreed to do 50 pro Trump promos. Here's promo number one. And it's and it's I didn't know they could do all that. I didn't know AI videos could look that real. And I didn't know you could show that much. Oh, they used AI videos at the end.

They're the one they they change gears and they do a promo. I really don't want to spoil it. It showed way more. I'll have to steal that later tonight because I'm not paying for Paramount. It's I was I thought was the best episode in a really long time. Obviously, they've just been doing those pandemic specials and a few other different things. So it hasn't been South Park as usual.

Is it a real episode or is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is a 10 episode season that that's the deal. You know, the big one point five billion dollar deal. Tiny, tiny penis Trump trying to bang Satan is the beginning of the 10 season arc. Maybe. Yeah, I mean, that's what episode one features pretty heavily is a tiny dick Trump being mad about his tiny dick and yelling at people and threatening people. And he's in bed with Satan and Satan doesn't want to fuck him. And he's like, come on, look at this. And and it's like his dick is like incredibly

small just incredibly small and that's the main focus of the episode. Satan wanted Trump to fuck him in the ass? No the other way around like I don't know what Trump wants from Satan but Satan's like arms crossed in bed like I heard you're on the Epstein list. That's pretty fucked up for Satan to cheat on Saddam like that. Yeah that's true. Unless you're about the timeline is it that. Taylor are you not paying for Paramount out of fiscal responsibility or a free speech like thing? Oh no it's literally just I don't think there's anything on Paramount I'd want to watch other than South Park and I just can't rationalize getting a whole streaming because I've done that with

Netflix before where I get Netflix just as a Seinfeld machine and then you know a month or two later It's like alright, I should cancel this again because I'm not getting any more value. No, it's not a principled stance It's just it's just me not they've got all the Star Trek I got to have Paramount. It's got all the Star Trek that's ever been trekked. So I like having it. So what is the deal with the Paramount merger? Like what is it? Because it's like a, like it's potentially monopolistic. And so it needs approval. Like what, what is the hangup? Yeah. The, the FCC, right, has to approve the merger and Trump is not going to let them merge. And they have them, he has them at a disadvantage there.

So that's why they settled. You know, the 60 minutes lawsuit, it was like 12 million, 15 million or something that he got, or I don't know where the money actually goes. He won the lawsuit. But why does he have to approve it? Is it because like after a certain size of businesses merging they need government approval? I don't know. I don't know. I just know that whenever there's a large media merger like this it requires government approval. I've always heard that come

up when there'd be big mergers like this. I don't even know what Skydance is, but that's what Paramount, CBS, or whatever is merging with. I have no idea. Honestly though, I've got like four full years of South Park I need to steal before I even catch up to this Trump episode because I haven't seen any of them in so long. There's probably a bunch of it on our Plex. After Tegridi Farms, I really checked out. I did not like that. A lot of the specials were kind of hit or miss. Yeah. Yeah. The specials I saw, I didn't think were as good as like, even when I watch South Park now, I find myself going back to like the Scott Tenorman seasons, like season five or the canceled one. I think that's season seven where it's like, you know,

I can take any form you like earthlings and then they like have them turn into like a taco, shitting ice cream. Like, yeah, it's pretty good. I did it. And then they get canceled. I'm sorry, I thought I caught a pause. I did a quick Google.

Anytime there's a transfer of FCC licenses, then the government has to approve the merger So that's how Trump has them by the shorthairs which is used to get like CBS's money Colbert fired 60 minutes his money stuff like that. He got he won another lawsuit for 200 million today I don't remember who was paying but it was another one of those they're settling to Trump and bending the knee kind of lawsuits Yeah, that's all him Trump and bending the knee kind of lawsuits. Yeah, that's the thing. Trump's enriching himself personally with lawsuits he could never ever win, but since he has the power to hurt them in ways outside of court, they settle. Like nobody thinks

George Stephanopoulos would have lost that suit, like the CBS one. No one. Fox News edited Trump's Epstein answers more than they edited, more than the 60 minutes thing was edited with Kamala. But you know, in suing Fox, it happens all the time. Trump is. Trump is suing Wall Street Journal. Trump is suing Fox? Well, he's suing Rupert Murdoch because the Wall Street Journal posted the letter and now that he's on the Epstein list. Like they're still going after him.

Dude, I'm glad he's getting guff from all sides. He's been doing a bunch of gay nonsense. And then today, today he's at the Fed, right? The Fed is building some buildings. The Fed is an independent organization, the way I understand it. They're not under his purview at all, which is why he can't fire that Powell guy and get his interest rates lower. He doesn't have that ability.

He can't do it. It's separate. But he's there wearing a hard hat, inspecting the construction of this building. And he's got some like bullshit paper and he's like, yeah, you're way over budget and behind skin. He's like shitting on this. And the Powell guy's there for some reason, also wearing a hard hat. It was absurd. You leave his... Powell guy fact checks him in real time. Trump's like, ah, cost 3 billion. He's like, no. And Trump's like, yeah, it says here, it's behind budget, whatever. And he's like,

no. And he hands the paper to pal like his proof. He's like, you're including a building that was built five years ago in this, you know, and he's like, well, you know, it's part of it. And he's like, you're taking the small budget and including something out of scope in this budget to make a lie. And I thought Trump looked like a lying asshole. Yeah, he's like, well, that's enough of this.

Let's take these hard hats. Yeah, let's change the topic. I'm getting fact-checked by someone who knows what they're talking about. Oh my God. Brad, what's your take on the whole likelihood that we actually get any sort of meaningful info from the Epstein West? I'm of the opinion it's like too many people are compromised and they're going to lead us on and fuck with us and never

give a shit. I think it's going to be like some tertiary things. Like with all these new releases, there's always a couple of little nuggets that make it somewhat worthwhile, but nothing revelatory. Like with the JFK release, it really just showed their sources for domestic intelligence that the CIA was using, and it was like MI6 and Massad, that sort of thing since the CIA isn't allowed

to do domestic like business, but like, oh, they just get one of their partners in the intelligence community to do it for you. Like this was another thing that happened kind of recently where like one of the main groups, like main entities now doing domestic surveillance for like our government is like the Canadians. And Canadians were probably spying on Trump's campaign. And that's where a lot of this information came from. And that's why he's not exactly

a big fan of Canada at the moment or was a couple of months ago. OK, this is like Safari group adjacent stuff, right? Well, it's more like Five Eyes currently, but the Safari Club is that's a can of world. That's a can of relevant. Yes, I believe we'll be touching on whenever I work on my thing um oh okay cool well then let's not blow it well I'm gonna get a water and then I want to I want to hear from Tom because I have a lot of confidence it's gonna be

good it's a dark day today Hulk Hogan passed away your age of 71, but Hulkmania has ceased to run wild and a quiet falls upon the gentle face of America. I couldn't care less. It's a shame that he had to tie himself to MAGA there at the end and lose what remaining fans he had and get booed out of that arena in California. There was the racist stuff before that. Well see here's the thing about the racist stuff. Okay.

He was being secretly recorded while he was in bed with a woman and he said some stuff and it's it reminds it's like doesn't take away from what he said but at the same time it's like was it like race play no no it was commentary on on some on whether his daughter had a black boyfriend I think yeah if you're gonna date a ninja at least data a rapper or athlete or something I thought the way you said that made it sound like he was saying it during sex. It was like post-coital I believe. They were kind of like sitting there and having a little conversation, maybe getting dressed.

And he's kind of shooting the shit. But the fact that he was secretly recorded while he's naked, it's like, I don't know, I don't want to judge him too harshly for what he said there. It reminds me of that actor from Seventh heaven and how his shitty wife recorded him admitting in therapy about some Pedophilia it's like that. All right, it's good thing. It's good that we got that pedophile, but I Mean Jesus when was he gonna talk about it? He was crying about his regret for something He did decades prior to a therapist and this lady recorded him and took it to the cops

you know, it's like it's like I Don't like either side of this at all. So I don't know. I let I let Hogan's racism go, you know This is rough here. I'm gonna read the quote Before I read it. He never says fellow in this quote Before I read it he never says fellow in this quote Hogan was recorded to have said I mean I'd rather she's gonna suck. I'm sorry fuck some fellow I'd rather her marry an eight foot tall fellow with a hundred million dollars like a basketball player I guess we're all a little racist fucking fellow RIP

Not a good guy RIP. RIP. I mean, this is not a good guy. RIP to him and... The only guy to ever complain about diarrhea and say the n-word on a sex tape that I've heard of. Mm-hmm. Even Mel Gibson didn't hit that. And he has perhaps the funniest voicemail of all time. I don't know if anyone's will ever beat the the Gibson tapes but also we'd be remiss if we didn't also pay a little

homage to Theo Huxtable. RIP passed away. Am I right about that? What? Did he drown? How did he die? Yeah, he did. He wasn't super old. He was like 53 and he died drowned. I looked into it because I was like did he like trip into a kiddie pool and he was just that that incompetent. I always like to think black people are really bad swimmers and they they die comically and yeah yeah you like to think that that's gentle bodies of water They die comically and yeah. Yeah, you like to think that that's gentle bodies of water But uh, but apparently he was out swimming at the time and and uh, and then drowned people die all the time Because they can't swim well, but I never hear about people dying because they can't throw or catch. Tell me swimmers don't rule Well, you're also by

That you're gonna be your next conspiracy really actually how swimmers have the biggest dicks in our cool All right, so RIP to Hulk Hogan Cliff or not cliff sorry Theo Huxtable and Who's the other Ozzy Osborne Ozzy? Yeah Yeah, you know what how Ozzy did his last tour, right? I think it made like $200 million, maybe $180 million. He donated all of it to charity. And the reason his voice has been so slurry for so long apparently is the painkillers to deal with his back pain. So he didn't take the painkillers so he could sing. I guess he was in a tremendous amount of pain. They had him like secured to a throne so they could move him around on the stage. Poor guy. Have you seen that funny

clip of him? Maybe it was during the Osbournes from years ago where he's like coming out of his room seemingly kind of fucked up and he's like Sharon someone took my beers. Someone has stolen the beers from my room and she's likezy, no one's stolen your beers. You probably drank them. Just get more from the refrigerator in the kitchen. He's like, my beers are being stolen. Most plausible reason. It's like probably like 10 empty beers on his nightstand.

All right. Well, we gave the in memoriam segment of the show. Tom, are you prepared? You ready to blow our minds? Yes, I need to get my laptop. All right. Cool. I'm excited. I love conspiracy shows. Yes, I need to get my laptop. All right, cool. Oh, I'm excited. I love conspiracy shows.

We should do this at least once a year. I'm thinking once every three or four years. Yeah. Give the fans what they want. I think we've nailed an effective tempo. Every five years. No, I like this kind of show. The ones I don't like, or they're like, you guys need to do another episode where you drink like two bottles of vodka each. And it's like, that sounds awful. Let's not do that one again.

Dude, I fucking, um, who's the biggest alcoholic on YouTube? What's his name also eats glue? Sure nice. Yeah, dude. He always comes to I had to ban him from my streams the guy won't leave me the fuck alone Too much you guys I couldn't take anymore So loud. Dude loves... I had too much shoe-nice. I couldn't take anymore. Oh no. Dude, he's just a... he's aggro. He just... Alright.

This is gonna be wild. This mic is not gonna work. It's gonna be piercingly loud. Can I have a count of five count? Uh, one, two, three, four, five. I mean, it almost worked for me. It sounds like Conspiracy Mike it does sound like yeah, see Mike. I'm okay with it this time. I'm gonna try to avoid showing the It's working Inside of my we've got no we're mysterious already

We got his fingerprints fellas We got his fingerprints, fellas. We got his fingerprints. I feel like I can see your heartbeat. Taylor, why aren't you wearing your cap? Is it, are you concerned you'd get outdone? I, yes. So, let's see if I can, this is the... What the fuck?

This is amazing. Um, goes down here. So basically this is I feel like I'm a little bit cheating here because this was the setup for The exact Basically, I did a video recently on World Trade Center 7 and the connections World Trade Center 7 and the connections therein. And I wanted to kind of use this to go over a little bit more of the actual like way the connections work. So to start with all of this, How how 9-eleven killed are most of you

I Think all of us are pretty much in on it not being what it seemed You know the building seven the flight 93 what he actually did flight 93 as a conspiracy years and years ago And so pretty open-minded we're all pretty open-minded and there's real I mean in some ways yes We're all pretty open-minded and very... It was Israel! It was Israel! I mean, in some ways, yes. We can go up to this guy and this guy and this... That's actually Israel right in the middle. That'd be funny if you...

I thought there was air traffic patterns of America. I saw Miami, New York, Denver. Yeah, so this whole thing right here is these are all of the tenants of World Trade Center 7. And what's interesting is that like the if you look at the actual tenant list, like the one of the things that really was the most shocking to me, because it's like, you know, SEC, which at the time held the files for pretty much every financial scandal of the, you know, late 90s, early 2000s, Worldcom, Enron, all that stuff. All those files got destroyed. Like all of the Enron files got destroyed because they were in World Trade Center 7. The insurance company that took out the,

let's see if we can follow this up here, the $4 and 1 half billion insurance payout on the asbestos film Twin Towers, that was housed there. The interesting thing, though, is these, is basically these two guys, Khalif al-Midhar and then Nawaf al-Hasmi. These two people were like there was a filing that was released in like a couple years back, it was like 2021. These two were being recruited as CIA assets. The interesting thing is these were also hijackers. These two, like, the, like, two of the hijackers on 9-11 were, like, straight up just CIA assets. And they're being

managed by this guy, Omar al-Bayoumi, who worked for Erkan as, as like kind of a no-show job, which was a government contractor for Saudi Arabia. And that is how, that's one of the many ways that Saudi Arabia connects to the safari club. And really the reason this is in the middle is that this is the thing that it got brought up earlier. Like it's this sort of unofficial agreement between Brad, what was it like it was United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, South Africa and there

was a weird yes, France, France, Morocco. Yeah, like it was a Yeah, like it was a kind of circa 1970s originally, mostly, right? Yeah, like it really came about because of like the church committees. So the CIA had to kind of play nice in-house for a little bit. And so they had to do things off the books with other security agencies. And that's kind of the reason why the Safari Club was kind of created in order to continue their operations in like Africa and the Middle East. Okay. So it was a way for the CIA in the US to work transitively through other countries to keep themselves distance from what from our goals. Okay. Yeah. Basically like as proxies initially, but then the way it kind of continued on and like the reason that was still kind of a thing was that it allowed in countries where there's like limitations on their foreign intelligence services operating domestically, they would be able to use.

Basically, they would just sort of do a you know, hey, have your guy come here and do this thing that we want to do here, but we're not allowed to. And so that's why this guy was in the US. Because he was big and like the way the whole money system worked was that money went from Alex station to the Saudi embassy, which sent like wired it back to Saudi Arabia, like washed it through Erkan, dispersed it to this guy back and then he would bring it back to the US to get to these two people, you know, paying for lifestyle and, you know, rent, shit like that. These two were al Qaeda members. The Carlyle group, which David Rubenstein was one of the... It's hard to...

The problem with anything that's like a mesh network like this is that there's no real clear place to start. Yeah, I mean, it looks unbelievably complicated. Mm hmm. That's more string than I've ever. I don't think I've ever used that much string for anything ever. Um, yeah, but it's like I'm not sure you use me, Taylor. None. None. No. That's the real conspiracy.

Damn. Yeah, I got the CIA, the IRS, the SEC, the Department of Defense. When I watched, and I'd heard a lot of it before, but when I watched your video on Building 7, I was like the the tenant list of Building 7 is like a conspiracy theorist's dream. It's the most... Oh, it's the shadiest thing in the world. Perfect. Yeah, it's got, you know, the Solomon Brothers, like half the building with Solomon Brothers. The Solomon Brothers got bought out by Travelers Group, who merged the City Group. Travelers Group was one of the other companies in which, with whom the World Trade Center complex was insured.

The Citigroup was basically considered to have more or less caused the dot-com bubble, but they wound up completely escaping it because all the files tying them to that, all the SEC things, all those were destroyed. I'm trying to think of anything that I had to cut from the video. Um, yeah, I'm sure you had to cut a lot because you were, you're getting pretty deep there. And I think you even said at one point, you're like, you mentioned the safari club and then you were like, well, we can't really, can't really delve too deep into that because that's, you know, persona non grata shit. Yeah.

And, you know, there's obviously, you know, urban moving systems, the, you know, that's it is getting uploaded to YouTube. I think I probably have to stop there with that. And if this is getting uploaded to YouTube, I think I probably have to stop there with that. Less. Yeah, don't get us banned. Stay on the safe side of it. And so I guess as they were a dance group. Yes, they were just a dance group. And they they were just happy to be 9-11 when they were having a good time dancing. So what as honest as you can be, you know, without risking bans and censorship, who do you see as kind of the principal responsible parties for building Seven specifically? Because I'm sure it was multifaceted and there were lots of different competing interests. For building Seven specifically, I think that was mostly the financial sector.

And I think really what happened was that, you know, it was a sort of let it happen on purpose type situation for, you know, the attack on the two towers, which kind of engineered by the CIA, but then it was to a certain degree massively exacerbated by our greatest ally. You know, through things like, you know, certain art installations. Okay. Floor 81.

Floor 81. I don't know how much of our audience is familiar with that. So basically, for the entire year leading up to, you know to that tragedy, there was the 81st floor of one, I think the North Tower, don't quote me on that, it's one of the two, was rented out and basically occupied the entire time by this art collective called Gelatin, which was like, and it was a group of Israeli art students, but then like the art collective itself was run by this Austrian guy.

But there's just so many just like weird pictures of them where like, you know, they're just posting with like drawings of planes crashing into buildings. And like- Really? I didn't know that. Oh, let me, I at least didn't find find um need to go to. So Tom you're telling me it was ran by an Austrian painter? That's what happens yeah that's what happens when you don't let them

that's what happens when you do let them go to art school. Yeah, it was it was ran by a rather eccentric. I think he was a hundred and forty one year old painter. He'd been in fucking Argentina for many years. What's the guy's name? So it's a group of four artists from Vienna, Austria. Okay, here I'm just reading off Wikipedia right here. One of Gelatin's best known art projects began in March of 2000 when the group removed one of the windows on the 91st floor of the former Trade Center complex and temporarily installed a narrow balcony while a helicopter flew around the

scene, taking photographs to be later documented in their book, The Bee Thing. There was also a picture, they took control of the electrical system, the building at one point and had the Windows spell out E team. I've seen that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. And the thing with them is like, you know, there's a there's one of these pictures that's just the four guys in that collective. And it's like none of them are the Austrian ones. Like it's just a bunch of Israeli guys. And they're standing in front of like this wall of boxes of like detonator fuses.

like detonator fuses. That's really suspicious. Dude, if I were in charge, I would have been like, don't fucking take that picture morons. Like, why would you do this? Like, don't dab on them. Yeah, don't like, don't be fortnight dancing. Yeah, that's like a tea bagging. That's like, yeah, we're gonna get away with it. Fuck you. Yeah, that's like a tea bagging. That's like, yeah, we're gonna get away with it. Fuck you. Yeah, that's the tough thing about talking about some of these more consequential, I'll say, conspiracies, because you have to be so measured on platforms like YouTube and everywhere, because if you get too real, you will be banned. Like they- Like you literally can't get too real with some stuff.

And I see that in your videos. I see that in a lot of conspiracy videos where they'll be like, and then, you know, I've brought you up to this point and I pray you can make the necessary connections between where I left you and to the end point because I can no longer explain this without jeopardizing my channel. Yes, it's funny you mentioned that like in the New South Park. There's a part where Jesus Christ himself comes down

He does a sermon on the mound passing out bread loaves and he's like, all right. Here's the deal He's in charge now what he says goes he's the president He's got all the keys to power. So we just gotta eat it. He's like like like shut up Don't say that we'll get sued. Well, he's telling her buddy. Shut the fuck up and eat it. It's uh, I really like the new episode I hope this whole season is gonna be maybe not harping on the same thing, but to that quality. It was really good But yeah, you know Can't be spreading misinformation about powerful people taylor certainly not

that's That's not appropriate. You just need to internalize the narrative foisted on you and move forward That's how that's how you American goes. So, 9-11, Building 7 is the sketchiest shit of all time. Very obviously skeevy at the very least. And then the problem with a lot of conspiracies is there are groups that sort of overplay the level of conspiratorial behavior and they ruin it for everyone. And so they'll say like, actually 9-11, yeah, I know you have all this evidence for like CD financial interests and things that make sense and convergent interests, you know, causing things like this. But actually the planes were holograms

and they were just missiles. There was no plane. There were all those people on every plane were fake. And it's like, fuck, like this kind of person is so damaging to people actually trying to learn the truth because they discount all of it for others. Because someone who's casual and trying to learn about it sincerely and genuinely,

they're gonna see that and they're gonna go, wait, holograms in 2001 flew into the, oh. I suppose everything these people say is nonsense. In 2001, there was a TV show called The Lone Gunmen. It was a spin-off of The X-Files. And in the spring of 2001, there was an episode of The Lone Gunmen about the government hijacking aircraft and flying them into the World Trade Center

to start a foreign war. Really? To start a foreign war. I'm going to say seven months later, 9-11 happens. There's a scene in that episode where they're like flying the jet into the World Trade Center from the cockpit. Like it's, they called it like, again, six or seven months before it happened. The predictive programming shit is so interesting to me, but I

haven't done my due diligence and I don't have a good inroad to it. Tom Brad, like you guys seem like you probably have a solid handle on a million examples of it. Can you help us understand it? I'm kind of honestly like this is gonna you know get me a ton of flack from like you know the all the conspiracy people online. I'm not really convinced either way on it. Like it seems like there is to a certain degree, to a certain degree, I think it's like a completely real thing, but it's like to the extent that people claim, I think that's like, you know,

sometimes just the numbers 9-11 turn up. Yeah. It's like there's no avoiding genuine circumstantial stuff. In the same realm of conspiracies, I suppose. I saw a leak today that said that evidence of alien life was to be revealed later this month. And it sort of fits the mold of Trump throwing anything into the media to possibly like distract from the Epstein thing because it's sticking. That's the only thing that's ever really stuck. But it is.

It'll continue to stick. I pray he can get fucked until he releases that shit. I mean, look, the problem is that he was championing it during his campaign and his surrogates were certainly championing it and all of his, you know, the the MAGA influencers were like harping on it and like the more extreme voices were going hard card in the paint like no place for pedophiles, left, right or center.

We're gonna burn them all at the stake. Soon as big daddy Trump gets in there and cast the list down from on high. And then they're like, wait, what do you mean you might be on it? But it's all lies. Who made it? Obama?

Wait, you're not getting Obama? Kyle, you're following, following through a classic Nancy Pelosi trick. Some of those hardcore voices you're talking about, Kyle, are in the administration now. And they just get to play like, you know, them before they were Trump's stooge and them now that they're Trump's stooge. Yeah, yeah. Some people aren't like backing down some of the more extreme

people. Um, but, but, but still it's not going anywhere. I could see him releasing evidence of alien life. That's all I've ever wanted. Since I was a kid watching the X files, I had this belief that I remember my mom was like, what is this even about? I was like, look, I'm like nine, the government, they're hiding the aliens, mom. And she's like, what government? And I'm like, I don't know, but they are. The cigarette smoking man, aren't you watching this? You know, like, and I, a little bit of me still believes that, that like, maybe they did discover some alien technology in the forties, and that's allowed us to

sort of dominate technologically for decades and decades and do all this innovation and stuff that we've done. Maybe Men in Black is a little bit of truth, you know? I'd love it if that were true. I like deep conspiracies that are like far reaching and consequential. It's one thing that like that the one that I've got still this Ken McElroy guy or whatever, a town killed a bully. Like all right,, well, the town got rid of their bully. But what if the conspiracy is how we got like the Internet and cell phones and lasers and shit, you know, I kind of like that one more. I would love it if they released it. I would forgive the Epstein list if he showed us the little the little gray men.

It would have to be a baffling amount of alien knowledge for people to forget the Epstein List. What if he was like, all right, this is Miku. He's from the planet Eryxalon. Hey! Trump's not on that list, just so we're all clear. I looked at it myself. That's the first words that alien speaks. They're exonerating Trump from the Epstein List. I trust him. I trust him. I believe Trixo here. He never lies. That's the race. list. I trust him. I trust. I believe Trixie.

He never lies. That's the race. You guys can't lie. Is that true? And I heard that's true. I mean, go ahead. I was going to say that, like, this whole conversation reminded me of something I saw like two or three days ago on Twitter, which was just someone put the word aliens in like the triple parentheses. And it's just like,

like the Jew dog whistle thing. Yeah. I'm not familiar with this dog whistle. Triple parentheses means they're Jewish. Yeah. And mostly at this point, it's people who are Jewish doing it ironically. But, and like, you know,

I've got the triple parentheses around my name in like a, in a Discord server. And then like there's another guy who joined and he puts six around his name because he's saying he's more Jewish. But, yeah, just misusing those. Like I think aliens is the funniest example of someone just putting them around just a word that doesn't make sense.

Well, who knows? They could be Jewish aliens. Yeah, maybe I'm just running cover. Maybe he's not, I think he's a different kind of alien, right? He's just not here legally. Oh, he's an alien. There's parentheses around that. This is Jose, he's just not here legally. This is Jose. He's an alien.

Yeah. Yeah. Before you do aliens, we can bounce back to it. I'm late on ads. Sorry. Oh, yes. Go ahead. Yeah. All right, folks.

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That would get me. That would get me. That would get me off the Epstein thing. If you brought out the little gray or green men, I'm not racist. I'll take either kind of alien. But it needs to be that large headed, big black eyed alien with the small slit.

None of those purple bastards. No, no tentacles, anything like that. If we've made peace with them, I'm gonna be upset. I need strictly humanoid aliens who are here to, you know. If the aliens don't have hands, I want nothing to do with them. I'll be happy with any sentient alien. I just don't wanna hear the some evidence of life on some planet because some spectrometer thinks

that this carbon dioxide. Oh, fuck off. No, we need to have a smart alien. Yep. Yeah, well, if you're gonna get me off the list, yeah, like I'd be happy if we heard we some bacteria turned up on the Mars. But if Trump's gonna get me off of his kitty diddlin, I'm gonna need to talk to this guy ET needs to phone me I need to talk to him and see that he's real and not some sort of James Cameron nonsense either They can't fool me again. I thought avatar was real for like six months I mean, honestly, I'd settle for one of those like little, you know, little antenna like EBD guys. As long as it's something that has like kind of a, you know, visible corporeal

form. It's like you even if it's like a ball, it's like, okay, alien ball. As long as it's alive. I will not be hoodwinked by that horse shit. Because I remember my buddy sending me like a link to a science.com article in maybe like 2010 where he's like, it's proven 100% life on Mars. And then I clicked the article and it's like scientists think that scientists who are desperate for more funding think that there could be a microscopic thing. They think they see what could have been the remnants of a micro a microbe on Mars. And it's like, no, I want for me to give a fuck. It's got to have like eyes. It's got to be able to do things. It's got to be able to, you know, move around. I should be able to see it with my naked eye. I don't give a fuck about

those tardigrades. Fuck you. Yeah. You're coming off kind of target graces. Tardigrace is probably what I am. I would be happy with anything. But again, if Trump's going to reveal something, I want to see like a she's not or at least a body. If they wheeled out a body that I would if they was an alien body we're talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They like bring out like a silver child's body. No, well maybe a child alien body like a hot one. They like wheel it out and it's in one of those. There's a lot of smoke and mist and you know, they crack open the chamber and like this is a fucking Neptune Ian fucking, you know, soldier. He came here trying to start some stroke.

If there's no fog machine, I'm still talking about Epstein. There'll be natural fog from the cryo process. It's one of those Walt Disney type machines. You know what Walt Disney's final words were something about Jews? This is so cold. Oh, at least freeze me first before you cut my head off. He's still alive! He's still very much alive! His final words were Kurt Russell. Really? Yep. So he saw that ahead. I don't think Kurt Russell was even born yet.

He was born and he was working for the Walt Disney Company as a child actor. Well, that's just how much I know. How old is Kurt Russell? And when did Walt Disney die? I pictured him being one of those guys who died in like 1938. Kurt Russell was acting in black and white western like TV shows when he was like 10 or something like that. And you're like, yeah, that's Kurt. That's little Kurt Russell. Like he's his face sort of it didn't change Like sometimes you look at a baby picture and you can't tell who that was but it's like yeah, that's that's Kurt Russell. I Brought this it's not as fleshed out as the Dead internet one, but I was curious what Tom and and Brad knew Are you guys familiar with the conspiracy surrounding the Titanic sinking?

Yeah, the two of the guys that went down on it opposed the Fed, right? Yeah. Yeah. So Jekyll Island. You know about it, Brad. You know, Tom seems like Kyle does too. No, I'm vaguely. Well, no need to go into it now. Um. Um. Um. I mean, no, that sounds interesting.

What's it about? It is interesting, dude. What do you know about it, Kyle? I know it is. I just, I'm. So I, I'm mostly vaguely recalling, actually my girlfriend telling me about this one, basically just about the kind of really odd coincidences with, you know, the, it's like a couple of the people on board

and how that made it very, they were like a real kind of thorn in the side of, you know, the powers that be trying to create the Federal Reserve. That's about as far as I know, but I have heard of it. Okay. Yeah, this was really interesting to me. Yeah. Man, Brad knows all this shit. John Jacob Astor, the fourth, Isidor Strauss, and Benjamin Guggenheim are the three people who were on the Titanic

who were wealthy and powerful enough in 1912 to form a meaningful resistance to the creation of the Federal Reserve. Meanwhile, the people in favor of it was largely J.P. Morgan, as far as like the uber powerful people in favor of this a lot of people were, J., JP Morgan and the Rothschild banking family, they were very much in favor of getting a central bank going, a federal reserve up and running. Also the Rockefellers. The Rockefellers were in favor of it as well. And so you had a lot of powerful interests on both sides, but

turns out one side was a bit more powerful than the other in the end. And the three that went on the Titanic, John Jacob Astor, Isidore Strauss, Benjamin Guggenheim, they had their wealth. Astor was a real estate mogul. Strauss was Macy's, the Macy's fortune. I had no idea that Macy's as a department store has been around since like the 1850s. I had no idea that company was that old.

And so like, when I looked it up, I'm like, wow, this guy must've founded Macy's and like been a big, you know, hullabaloo guy. No, like he was like inheriting and growing it. And not, you know, he wasn't some lazy bum. He did grow Macy's into a huge thing. But all these guys were overtly against the formation of the Federal Reserve. And what they don't tell you is JP Morgan had a ticket on the Titanic. And he personally invited

those three guys on the Titanic. And two days, I think it was two to maybe three, before the departure, JP Morgan said, oh, oh, fiddlesticks, I can't make it. I've got business in France. And so he backed off, he didn't go. And there were also other individuals who wanted the Federal Reserve made that had tickets previously and then backed out in the last two days or so.

That includes Henry Clay Frick, a steel baron. He had a ticket backed out. Guglielmo Marconi, he invented the wireless radio. He was not a rich guy, but J.P. Morgan saw a huge amount of potential in his discoveries and kind of had him as like, you're my science slave now, bitch. And so he had a ticket and then he didn't go. Theodore Dreiser, he was a journalist heavily in favor of the formation of the Federal Reserve that had a ticket, then backed out at the last second. George Washington Vanderbilt II, the coolest name ever, that guy, he was a railroad

magnate. He also was very much in favor of the Federal Reserve. He backed out at the last second. And all of them cited, or I think maybe just the railroad magnate cited that the reason he backed out at the end was a quote, family warning. He said someone had contacted someone in his family and relayed that he should tell him, you should not go on the Titanic. And so, and it was also Robert Bacon, the Secretary of State and financial ally of Morgan, he had tickets and he didn't end up going. Another thing is JP Morgan, who owned the Titanic, he also owned the IMMC, the International Mercantile Marine Company, and he owned the Titanic via this.

And he was responsible for not allowing enough lifeboats to be made for it. They said before it departed, hey, this doesn't actually live up to even 19 teens regulations. You should have enough lifeboats for everyone on board. This is pretty baseline. And because of his control over that organization, he pushed it through anyway. And so there was a real understanding

that this guy who owned the Titanic, JP Morgan, he was in control of, you know, he wasn't picking the amount of boats, but he had the ability to override people who would have delayed the departure and the journey on those grounds. And so to me, and I didn't spend nearly enough time looking into it, it seems straight up conspiratorial that all these people died on the Titanic, seemingly no hyper wealthy people who were in favor of the creation of the Federal Reserve died on the Titanic. They all canceled beforehand.

It was only opponents to the Federal Reserve that died there. And the fact that JP Morgan was like, he hated these guys. Astor Guggenheim, he hated Strauss, disliked all of them. And so it just makes a little too much sense. It's a little too serendipitous on his behalf that this would all happen in his favor.

And so I'm also convinced myself of that. I'm a retard so I can be convinced of anything, but like, it makes sense to me. Part of me is like, you know, why would they choose a murder method where a third of the people survived? Right. It's not a very good way to solve your problem. But then again, our first conspiracy had a murder method of suicide by bolt action with a 22 five times. So sometimes people do dumb things. Yeah.

And like it was the it was the 19 teens. There's a little factoid about the Titanic that a higher percentage of women in third class survived than the percentage of men in first class. Of course. And so like that was just a thing at the time. Like even if you were one of the wealthy business magnates, you probably weren't getting on the boat. Like they were pretty stringent. Like no women and children, you can get fucked, like get out of here. And so who's to say, I do agree.

It seems like a very convoluted expensive way to kill these people But i've already made my mind up. It was actually underinsured. I looked into that The titanic was the um three dogs survived two pomeranians and a picinese the ladies hid them in their coats Interesting I tucked little murphy into of course. I've got it one of them boats. Hey the women and children first my ass Fuck them kids I'm getting on that boat. Do you guys have any? Tom and Brad like pet conspiracies that maybe aren't even that consequential to the world But you just have a an intense a deep interest in like the Titanic. I guess the Titanic

one was pretty impactful. When you said conspiracy theories, I was like, you mean like dogs and cats? Like, I don't know, like they're in charge, like they're pulling the strings. No, just, just like a personal fave. Like I am convinced and it's low stakes that the NHL gave Pittsburgh the draft pick that got them Sidney Crosby. That was not random. That was intentional. They were trying to save a dying franchise. Totally inconsequential, but I'm all in on that one. So something of that. I think most of the major sports are scripted. I heard recently, I wish I could remember the details, but I don't know basketball players, someone was saying they heard the coach be like, hey, make sure you book rooms in and like the city where the finals ended up being, but it was like months before the finals. He knew where the, where, who they would be playing at

the end of the year. And that it was then, it was like, make sure you book those, those, you know, tickets in Jacksonville. And it's like, the season hasn't been determined yet. And the coach is booking tickets for the finals that he's going to play in. I saw that guy that played with LeBron in Miami today come out and be like, yeah, LeBron got busted for steroids. He had to take three weeks off and say it was an ankle and they came back all skinny. So I like those. I think, I think the NBA and the for sure is a scripted sport big time and the NFL

seemingly too. There's been lots of weird moments. Anthony Davis is LeBron's teammate. And LeBron got hurt and missed like three weeks or something, but everyone expected it to take months. And he's like, yeah, he went to Germany, got those good whatever treatments. And everyone's like, yeah, yeah, I know what kind of treatment.

Human growth, hormones, steroids, stuff like that. He, I know kind of treatment human growth hormone steroids stuff like that healed fat rena chrome Yes, sir. I need our shit What is the you guys seeming like you undoubtedly know more about this than me the adrenochrome thing? is that Way out of left field nonsense like what what even is that? so a dream of chrome was originally being tested as a way to kind of way out of left field nonsense? Like what even is that? So, adrenochrome was originally being tested as a way to kind of chemically induce schizophrenia. It is a real substance. All it is, is it's oxidized epinephrine.

And it's funny, like a little while back, and I actuallyatene inhalers. You mix them together and they turn purple. And then eventually do like, what could I actually use this for? You can develop film with it, which is fun. But like, it's, it's basically like, it works the exact opposite of how an antioxidant works in your brain. So it just, like, you know, whatever the shit that like a kai juice does for you that makes it really healthy. This is like the opposite of that. And I don't like I feel like the kind of you know that getting tied into you know the whole kind of you know evil child trafficking, child trafficking, Moloch worshipping thing. Like I honestly I don't really know what that comes from other than just it being a

kind of rumor. Like I have yet to see anything really convincing about Adrena Chrome specifically being relevant. You know, there are things that, you know, perhaps may have more stuff behind it, but not a gerinochrome. Okay, so you... because that's what I've... I didn't know until you just said it, but if you can synthesize that artificially at CVS, it's like, why would there be a child bloodletting ring to support it. That just doesn't make sense. And Brad, if you have any- Yeah, it's like one of those things

where somebody takes it into the realm of absurdity to like this, to kind of undermine what would be oh, kind of a realistic conspiracy to make it outlandish and unattractive to people. Like people, okay, we need to actually, the reason why we're torturing these children is actually for Dream Chrome. It's definitely not because we get off on it. Yeah, exactly.

Well, I think it's just something that's, you know, designed to be kind of like a, you know, if, if there are, you know, allegedly people doing that, which, you know, I'm not going to weigh in on one way or another, but it would be a great way to, you know, provide something that people can be like, no, you can, what are you talking about? Like, why would, why would you need to do that to get a provide something that people can be like no you can what are you talking about? Like why would why would you need to do that to get a dream of chrome? You can like yeah, it's like a one step It's not a dream of chrome. Maybe that's a red herring to throw us off If you look at the book blender babies, it's about you We're literally blending babies to get to consume their essence

I think that's about a specific they get. And it's such an addictive, like wonderful like drug that there's a complete societal collapse. And I think the main character of the book spends the end of the book defending his home from baby blood crazed mobs outside who want his influence so they can blend it and consume its essence. consume its essence. No. Yeah. I mean, that's a scary book. Maybe there's something in there. You know, like, like I always think back to when STEM cells were big in the news, when we didn't know if George HW was going to, or not HW,

George W was going to allow for STEM cell research and how far they were going to go. If they were going to use like tissue postpartum tissues or where they were going to use umbilical cord tissues and like the people like Christopher Reeves who were like laying there can't move. They're like blend the babies, whatever it takes blend them. And like that's one of those issues where at first I was like, I don't blend the babies. We can't do that. But then I was thinking like, imagine if you're in that wheelchair. I'm thinking blend the babies.

Blend the babies. Have you seen any of the new Superman movies? They suck. What does that have to do with blending the babies? You were just, we're talking about Christopher Reeve. Oh yeah. Christopher Reeve wasn't a good, I didn't like those either.

I don't like those old Superman movies. Those are pretty cheesy. Yeah. I'm glad you guys solidified that because that has always been a conspiracy that hasn't made sense to me where it's like... It does seem like, and I like your term, Tom, the shit coding, where it's like, oh, it's not that they're doing sinister things. It's that Hillary Clinton is eating babies. And it's like. Really, like, do you do you really think that? Like, you think she's like carving off a piece of a baby thigh at a barbecue somewhere with like with Lady Gaga and there's some scary lady covered in paint or something there and in a weird ritual, it's like Marina Bramovic. Yes. Yeah. Well, I know she's the uh, uh, isn't she like an occultist?

So she's a performance artist. I will say if you look at a picture of her and how old she is, it's like, okay, she's doing something evil. She has to be, or she just has the best skincare routine of all time because it'll all see pictures of her and they'll be like this is her four years ago she was 81 and it's like no it's like it's a 30 year old no that's that lady's killing it for 81. What's this person's name? Marina Abramovic. Yeah Marina Abramovic. She's the one who liked baby fore foreskin cream. Yeah, it was the, well, apparently, well, that seemed far-fetched. And then it turned out that was true. That was happening, which is fucking reprehensible.

I'm looking at her. Oh my goodness. Yeah, she's like in her seventies. Yeah. And she's like tight with a lot of celebrities. I don't know the whole lore around her. So celebrities just like her. Is that the story?

They buy vampire potions from her. I don't know. OK. Yeah. She's also like a cultural ambassador for like Ukraine with some other country, I think. Oh, yeah. I don't I don't I remember seeing that somewhere, but I never looked that much into it. That's what's hard about the conspiracies is you'll hear one that's enticing and then you immediately realize the amount of research it would take to actually do more than talk out of your ass about it. And it's like, Oh my God, how am I even gonna pursue this? Like I have to pay bills. I have to cook dinner. I have to do things. Yeah, that that lady seems creepy. She was the one who there was a big part of the like, Alex Jones here. The spirit cooking. Yep. That's where I was going to is, uh, they were showing all those

pictures years ago where it's like, look, you know, Lady Gaga is here and all in Katy Perry and all these people. And they're like dipping, you know, chips in nacho cheese over this like naked lady. And it's, it's, uh, it's demonic. And then after this, they do demon stuff and it's like, okay, maybe I don't know Is that probably not though it wasn't nacho chips it was something that I think it was chocolate I don't know Like they had some naked fondue and somebody got got hurt about it I I could believe that there are secret societies that do rituals and and like the more I look into Moloch and his mentions in the Bible and he's like this I think it's a bullheaded god and the the statues have these open hands and there would be a fire underneath so the hands would blow red hot and they drop the babies onto the

the burning red hands and then they tumble into the fire below like all that child sacrifice and stuff I could believe that there's powerful elites taking part in some sort of weird ritual like that. But I don't think Hillary Clinton's eating babies. And I don't think that a Bromovich woman is death becomes her or anything. Good. I think if there was some sort of like youth serum, like she wouldn't have it, I think Donald Trump would have it I think like the real powerful people would have it right they'd be marketing it

How I know it's not real. It's like they would have a weight loss serum for Trump If it was available, I Mean he could be taking a zempik, but he's chosen not to for some reason, clearly. That's not a serum though, because that would inhibit his ability. I think he's beating it. Munch. Yeah. I, dude, have you ever been around someone?

I think he's beating the Zempik. It's very funny. It's so gross. It's so bad. It's like, how are, how this is a a this is an act against God at this point. Like what are you doing, dude? You think like, oh, isn't an act against God? Is that what you were saying? No, I mean, like just being able to eat that much that you're beating Oz in pick. Oh, yeah, that's that's just nonsense. Like you gotta really want to.

That is some gluttony beyond excess. You gotta have like a game seven mentality for every meal to be like, I'm going to win against this drug I'm injecting. I don't think you could win. I think you get like physically sick. And I hear about people like having really disgusting burps from the ozempic because they're, they're like ruminating now. It slows down your digestive tract. Yeah. No. Ozempic really feels like one of the...

Brett? That was one of those things early on where people were like overdosing on Ozempic and it was like they wouldn't poop and then their whole system would be so stopped up and filled with this black bile that they would just die. Jesus! I didn't see that in the infomercial. Yeah. That was like when it real early on and like people were real scared about it but it turns out they were like doubling up their doses on some black market bullshit. Jesus Christ.

It's crazy. I wonder if it's still expensive. Probably, I mean, here. Like. Novo Nordisk, like I think that like I forget the actual percentage, but it's something like, because I calculated it once and like,

Ozempic is now like, I wanna say 37% of Denmark's GDP. What? Some absurd amount. Yeah, like a double digit percentage. Because it's the main- Like it was the only thing keeping their economy going for a while. Yeah.

Yeah. The way I feel about Ozempic is that, like it feels like it fails the, you know, does this feel like the first third of an episode of the Twilight Zone test? Yeah. Where it's, it's the, you know's the first act where it's like, you know, damn, this is amazing. I can't possibly imagine this having consequences that would ironically appear later. Yeah, like the one where the guy, he's losing his hair and he gets the hair transplant

that ends up being like alien worms living in his scalp or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you definitely want to wait for Ozempic 2.0 maybe before going full bore into that. Maybe try some diet and exercise. Maybe not be a first adopter. Wait and see how it plays out. Same with the brain chips.

I don't even want to be a second adopter for one of those brain chips. I want one. Oh yeah, no. Like if those Elon brain chips were like working and like, like, let's just if they were great, I'd want one. Like I'd want. Oh, I wouldn't like now that shit's I want to fucking overlay. I want an overlay.

I want it willing. Like I want it like looking at everything I'm looking at, processing it, giving me tips and like, like help with that doesn't sound hellish to you. Google Glass. Like it turned right off. If I want it off, I can hellish to you. Google Glass. Like turn it right off. If I want it off, I can just tap one. Sure. I bet it'll turn right off.

Yeah. You say something that, you know, pisses off. It's all fun and games. Yeah. And then it's like, you know, next thing you know, fun and games until until what you go ahead. Brad and I think we're converging on the same point where it's like, you know, you say something, you know, that pisses off the powers that be and then the CIA, you know, hacks your brain chip and makes you rip your dick off.

Yeah. Again, I'm talking about- Literally you're shooting yourself five times with a bolt action 22 in the back of the car. I'm talking about a hypothetical non-evil brain chip. I would want that. That's never going to exist. Yeah, it's like saying you want a non-evil computer. Yeah, no good person is ever gonna make a brain chip.

It's all fun and games until somebody airdrops like a zip bomb of like horse cock into your brain and makes it explode or something. Is that a feature? Just think about you can call it that might be all right with that. Yeah, I would just be afraid that I would just you know, it would be incredibly painful or it would make me retarded or something like that. That'd be since they're drilling a hole in my head and yeah, I know fucking silver dollar on my brain.

Don't do that. Don't become a bot man, Kyle. The clanker. Don't become a fucking man Kyle the clanker don't become a fucking clanker dude We're gonna eventually I would be fine having a robot hand it just right jokes for me It's like I've got I've got Colbert's entire staff now in my brain all 200 of them losing 40 million dollars a year somehow But you know, that's why the show maybe pick a funnier staff for your staff, right? That's that's why the show was losing 40 million a year. The staff is 200 people strong for that fucking show. 200 people earning salary on that hour-long late night show. Where the fuck are they and what are they doing?

Not writing jokes. There's your conspiracy theory. Yeah, not being funny. Like every clip I see of that, I guess all the clips I see reposted on Twitter of Colbert is that like Vax song and dance he did way back in the day. And it's like, oh my God, this is like, I'm grinding my teeth at how embarrassing this is

for everyone involved. So like, you know, that's the most shameful thing I've ever seen a video of Stephen Colbert doing. Yeah it really is. It's like hey guys we're gonna do a fucking song we're gonna do a musical about how awesome Pfizer is. Pay no heed to the fact that a few years ago they paid a billion dollars uh settlement for knowingly keeping poison and baby powder for half a century. Or the fact that all of their employees just took saline. Yeah, yeah. Pfizer was one of the companies that didn't require you get it in order to stay employed.

And it's like, really? Because a lot of my friends had to do it for their sales and marketing and what he made business jobs What he made Kyle do it what he said you're off I didn't want to get that that shot and the boosters. Oh 14 boosters. Ah, I gotta go into market another one. Mm-hmm Like I feel like I want them to have a little skin in the game Yeah, they should they should like care enough to be like yeah this product is good i'm gonna do it i'm pure-blooded

i didn't get it so i was like i don't make all the difference it didn't i got covid and it went away in like a day i never got covered never got COVID. You went through a little period where you were sick. There was one point where you had the flu so bad and you were like, I'm not going to get tested. All right, that might have happened, but that was well after like the COVID days. I don't. I got moved like three times. Oh, damn, that sucks. Yeah, the main it's annoying. It's... Did you get maxed up? Were you

trusting the science? So I took the first one. Like I got the original Vax and was like, you know, damn this... like I took it and it was like, you know, that felt like shit. That was like almost as bad as having COVID and then I was like fuck the rest of this Yeah, I had almost no symptoms it was fun and then I never got sick because I did trust the science Yeah, I'm a I'm a science skeptic Well, there's a lot of financial interest there so anytime there's a lot of financial interest involved. So anytime there's a lot of financial interest involved, you do have to be skeptical. Jesus Christ. I don't have to be everybody was getting the shot.

Seemed like a good idea to get the shot. Plus, my dad's old. I got friends with immune shit going on. I didn't want to be the one like imagine how guilty I feel if you were the one who got somebody sick and then they fucking like died. Like I had to get a lung transplant or something awful. Like I don't want to send a loved one into some medical spiral because oh yeah Taylor says the government put put 5g chips in

the vaccine I was and that was the thing about it is I never once said any nonsense about you told me there were 5g chips in there never told you that Will Gates is trying to turn you into a magnet Never told you that? Bill Gates is trying to turn you into a magnet. All I said ever, and most of us who didn't get it just said the same thing, this is under tested, I'm not a risk group, and I don't see it as worthwhile. And that was it. There was no 5G, there was no magnetism. Look, some fucking retard put something tacky on his skin and now it's boomsticks.

I love that. And then they used that as like a way to malign everyone who, like me, was like, I just don't think they've tested it enough. They've come out and said that and I don't think I'm at risk. So I'm not worried about it. If you are at risk, go ahead and get it. Go for it. Yeah. That's basically where I am. Like I saw they gave Joe Biden the shot. I knew it was a OK. I was sure I was getting the same mix he was getting. So you think you're getting the Biden mix? Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Like that's what did him in, I hear at the debate was the the Vax. Oh, shit. I didn't hear that theory. I know that he's a senile old man. Hunter Biden came out like this week and said that he was on Ambien. And that's why he was all all fucked up during the debate. There was a conspiracy like from the you know kind of Democratic establishment which is funny because it's like the you know the group of people who was always like you know the least willing to accept conspiracies of anyone. Yeah. And like

right after the debate people people were, you know, basically coming out being like, you know, were they use some like, basically they were coming out and being like, you know, like, yeah, they hit him with the retard beam and like, they were using it. Yeah. Like, like they were using like a Havana syndrome speech jammer on him. It's like, no, he's just he's a million years old. Yeah, it's like it wouldn't take that much to make this guy who's already stumbled a

million times publicly to stumble more like why would you think they gave him retard juice or ambient? I've my only experience with ambient I've never taken it but a friend of mine was a Combat Marine, you know, and he had trouble sleeping for a few years after he got back And so he got would put on ambient and every so often he would just text our group chat like 15 texts in a row at 305 in the morning and we'd all wake up to it and it wasn't even like drunk person speech it wasn't like i love you so much it would be like he planned out day to day activities pricing everything for me and like six of our other friends to go on a european vacation at 3 0 5 in

the morning and so it was just sending stuff like, and if we stay here at this hotel in Italy, we can actually catch a ride to this place in, you know, Spain the next day and we could see both of these great cities and then we could do this. And actually if we do this it's not too expensive. And the next morning a lot of us texted like, what the fuck are you talking about? We'd never even broached the topic of us going on a big vacation together. And he's like, guys, I'm sorry.

I was fucked up. I took Ambien and then I didn't go to bed. And that ruined me. Sounds like Ambien. Yeah, I woke up from an Ambien to like take a piss once and just waking up like still under the effects of that. I was so out of it. Like, I don't know if

it excuses Roseanne Barr's tweets, but it might. I also heard she had like severe brain trauma when she was like 19 years old or something like that. So that also might've contributed to it. She got hit by a car. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Wow. I didn't know. I don't know what, what the hell is Roseanne up to now certainly not making the i mean that maga rap video right before the election that was i wouldn't say big but it really upset me to watch it she has she had like dreads was she rapping or was she like a dancer she was she was she was rapping and dancing i don don't like that. I don't want that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going to look that one up.

It was horrific. Yeah, I feel bad for Roseanne, though, because, you know, they the show was called Roseanne and they're like, you're fired, Roseanne. And she's like, no, what about the show? We're going to rename it to the Connors. And yeah, you can't have Roseanne. It would imagine doing that to Seinfeld be like, Oh, Jerry, that girl's 17, right? Dude, you're, you're 41. You fucko.

Look at the size of her tits. She's an adult. With this grass on the field play ball. That's what that song 1738 was about. I don't know that song. I don't know that song. Like, um... Oh, is he 38? Um, uh, the... Who's that by? Fetty Wap? 1738, like the... Never mind. Oh, yes! It is my Fetty Wap. You're on the... I don't know that. Yeah was an uncomfortably, they read it pulls that picture out of the drawer every couple weeks of Seinfeld and his 17 year old girlfriend and he's clearly

like Jerry from the Seinfeld show. That would have been a good episode. George would be like the worry ward. He's like, you're gonna get caught. Yeah, they're gonna find you. He's doing an afterschool program for the Yankees at her high school. That probably would be it. Have you guys ever, all three of you, started looking into a conspiracy out of fun

and just novelty, and then you're almost annoyed when you start to buy in because you're like, oh, fuck. Like now I'm gonna be that fucking retart who's into this, who I previously would have judged. I have one in mind, but I was curious. The alien thing has always just appealed to me so much. And I know it's stupid. And like, even on a different level I know that

it's not likely that they could get here so I have to like I'm like well maybe they're time travelers from our future and their time city is beneath the waves and I'm like no that's stupider than the other thing and that one that one I'm I have a real I don't know I romanticize the idea of there being aliens and us contacting them to the point where It doesn't take much to get me going Well, if some I see some some eyewitness testimony like I've seen it It's hovering right over the pigly wiggly and I'm like for real Over the pigly wiggly like I believe him. I can't they just seem so emphatic. I believe they, they sink it. I wish, I wish they were real. That's, that's, I want it to be so, to be

real so bad that I will it to be so. And then I realized I'm believing in kukri. You are big on that. Not, not kukri, but like you are absolutely obsessed over the years with aliens being real and finding evidence for them. I'm very afraid of them. That's the funniest part is that like you're deathly afraid of them and you do want them to be real. One thing that I can offer you, Kyle, is at one point I asked my dad if he'd ever seen like a UFO or an alien or whatever.

And like, so my dad was a military pilot and I asked him if he'd ever seen a UFO or an alien or whatever. And like, so my dad was a military pilot. And I asked him if he'd ever seen a UFO. And he just like looked at me and went, yes. And I was like, do you want to is like, I've seen a lot of them. He didn't didn't want to talk about it anymore. Oh, shit. He's all it took. I'm hooked. I told you. I'm like that's proof positive right there.

This guy's dad's seen him. Let's call him. Give him the ring. I'm your channel boy. I feel like he probably would not appreciate being put on Yeah, my father would He's a somewhat

private guy That's fair. Yeah, my dad would hate it. I was like, hey dad, you're talking to a few hundred thousand people right now Say something ridiculous Taylor call me when you're done Taylor, call me when you're done. And then you'd hang up on me. You're dressing down. Surprise, you know, your reaction will be recorded for posterity forever. Forever and ever.

All the retarded stuff you say will never be forgotten and people will meme on you with it. Woody, when I asked Kyle, Tom and Brad is, has there ever been a conspiracy that you went into just out of interest novelty and you didn't want to believe but you ended up buying in? If you need to think, I have one. And it was the chem trail thing where I was like, this is the most retarded thing ever. And then I had some random person on Twitter be like, hey, not only are you dumb for saying

they don't try chemicals, you live in St. Louis. Are you not familiar with Operation Large Area Coverage? And I was like, yeah, Operation Black. Well, I'm definitely familiar with it. And I was like, yeah, well, I'm definitely from, but I wasn't. And so I had to look it up and it was like, it's one of those, uh, it's like operation high jump operation, mockingbird, these things that back in the day, they would have called conspiratorial nonsense, but then end up, you know,

when it's no longer consequential releasing it. And there was a program called operation, large area coverage, where the U Army Chemical Corps dispersed microscopic zinc cadmium sulfide particles over much of the United States and Canada in order to test dispersal patterns in geographic range of chemical or biological weapons. And apparently they did this over St. Louis a good bit,

like they poisoned our city proper with these chemicals over and over and over. Why did they use poison to see how far something would get dispersed? They could have used sugar or something. Not poison as in they were doing it to poison the people of St. Louis. It's just that zinc cadmium and a lot of these things they would release happen to be not people of St. Louis. It's just that zinc cadmium and a lot of these things they would release happen to be not good for you. So the zinc cadmium in particular is a tracer used

to test dispersal of biological agents. So it's, they use that because they're able to go back and see how well that chemical was dispersed. So if later on they wanted to put the Trixie virus in there or they wanted to put, I don't know, some other agent in, they would know, you know, what altitudes, what speeds, what wind patterns to utilize to maximize dispersal over a large area. And that's the thing about it.

Yeah, they just fucking microwaved the Pruitt-Igoe housing complex with that stuff. What's the Pruitt-Igoe housing complex? It was a public housing initiative, like a big, like one of those big tower blocks, kind of like Cabrini-Grain in Chicago. But it was like, hey, everyone here is poor. They won't notice they're getting radiated. Yeah, probably not. They'll just be like, this is because of my bad diet that my fingernails are falling off.

Yeah, but that's the thing with like one thing a lot of the, oh, sorry, go ahead, Brad. One thing that might interest you, Taylor, is that amongst other things like spraying down St. Louis, as part of Operation Sunshine, or Project Sunshine, I can't remember which one it was, but it was this operation about sort of like taking cadavers, parts of cadavers, organs and whatnot, and doing nuclear testing on them, making them go back and forth across the world, like people, like legs being chopped off, dead babies and Australian brilliant brought to the United States. One like sub area of that was in St. Louis, I believe,

where they were having dentists remove children's teeth to see how much heavy metals and radioactive material was settling into their bones. See, that sounds more sinister than what I've found interesting. And that is a thing that solidified me more with it after just seeing the actual operations where they dropped this stuff. It's once again a shit coding where people will go, these chem trails, they're poison. They're all a way to harm you. They're a way to do this and that and just very sinister things. And that's not the case always. Like what Kyle was saying and what Tom said,

like sometimes they are just testing dispersal patterns and they're using things that happen to be poisonous, but it still proves that they do engage in that behavior. So do all of you very large operation? No, sorry. you might be going. You might be thinking about the same thing. Operation C spray. See phone see what the the pink mold one that.

Yeah, the pink mold from like showers and stuff like that. They started all over San Francisco. Yeah, that's why like so, so like the pink mold that shows up in showers, the reason we have that now is because that was released in San Francisco. What? That's what causes that? Yes. That's why I have to scrub my shower floor every few months. Yes. I hate that. Last time I just used bleach because that's what was near. Yeah, I hate that. What do you use? Last time I just used bleach because that's what was near. Yeah, I used that bleach gel for toilet bowls. It's amazing.

I just used regular bleach and I scrubbed it all out and then I started a new thing I do where I was worried I had to take a shower right after I scrubbed it with bleach and I was like, I don't want to stand in like remnants of bleach. And so I put on these Crocs that I'd never worn. And it turns out showering in Crocs kind of rocks, like it's, it's pretty soft and comfortable. And so I've kept using them even though it's unbelievable. Part of this conspiracy is that a midwesterner has never worn Crocs. Like we're supposed to believe that. Yeah. Well, I fit all the other things. I'm dumb and overweight. And so that plays in the operation C spray. I love your guys encyclopedic knowledge on all this shit. It's amazing me. Yeah. So that's

what that fucking pinkish shit is. Or orange ish, I guess that shows. Yeah, like, like this was a collaboration between like the Navy and the CIA where they sprayed it across San Francisco and like they didn't notify the local like medical establishment before doing this. And so out of nowhere, shitloads of people are coming in with bladder infections. They're like, what the fuck is going on? And it apparently was causing bladder infections. And one guy had complications to the point where he died. Fuck. Yeah. And so they OK, so they've been caught doing this a few times,

I guess they know. They know what's best for us, Taylor. That's why you trust them. That's why I got the 14 boosters. I trust whatever they say. Aren't you due for 15? Tomorrow, like I said, I gotta get in early, get boosted up.

I never got COVID, like I said. I'm a conspiracy theorist like yourself. There was a time when you were grievously ill on the show and you were doing the Dennis Reynolds like sickness beyond. You were like, I won't get tested. I don't have COVID. I'm like, brother, you're my friend and I'm worried

about you because it's been a few weeks and you've been incredibly ill. Yeah, I like to fight it out. I don't like to go get medicines for sickness unless it's real bad. I always go right away if it's like strep throat or if it's some sort of like eye infection or something like that,

something that just gets worse and worse and icky. But if it's just a cold, I try to power through it. I like to imagine that my immune system is benefiting from that. Charlie, did you have Covid? I waited six years to have my wisdom teeth pulled. Why years? Why? Why?

I just I couldn't make the appointment and then I never rescheduled. So it's just kind of like I couldn't get a ride because I was going to have to be put under. Oh dude, it was awful. Towards the end, it was coming in sideways. I only had three of them, but they were all coming in sideways. Yes. Like all hell and it stank and shit. It was honestly nasty. I don't know why I didn't do it earlier. Why did they stink? Yeah, they're rotting. Oh, yeah. I lucked out. I only have one wisdom tooth. Oh, that'll do it. I only had one wisdom tooth and I let it just grow in and it's fine. Just hanging out top right of my mouth. Lucky you,

doing okay. Lucky you. Lucky you. I got very fortunate. Shockingly, there was plenty of room. Some of us would have died. Yeah. I got room for three or four more back there. I could have snagged them. I could have been Christlike and taken to your wisdom teeth.

There would have been ample room. I got all four of mine taken out and just making a little homunculus. But yeah, as a kind of sign of the time when I got mine out, I got all four of mine taken out and for a, it's just like, you know, this is the most like This is the most like fucking 2012 story ever. But I go home from the doctor's appointment and like the doctor gave me 120 Percocet 10s for my wisdom teeth. That's excessive. Is a 10 a lot of Percocet? I mean, it's a medium amount. Okay. But 120 seems like a lot. 120 is like an unbelievable amount, and it had a refill.

He was trying to get you addicted. How many did you take a day? Molly, for the six. What was this prescription per day? It was something stupid where it was like, oh yeah, take two of these a day for 60 days or something. And it was like, yeah, this was just this was just a shady ass doctor. Yeah. Sounds like a dentist or whatever.

Mr. Field. Yeah. But yeah, I think they cracked down on that. I think you can do that anymore. Oh, yeah. No, it's a it's a profession that's almost entirely fraudulent. A lot of dentistry is fraudulent. No, pharmacists are 100% fraudulent. The very idea. I was melting down about this yesterday. Those fucking, those pill counting pieces of shit. First of all, I just left a medical doctor. He told me what the cream does. He told me when to take the capsules.

He told me everything I needed to know that was pertinent. I don't need you pill counter MD. Get back there and get to counting. What's taking so fucking long? Count that you can't count to 60 and under 45 minutes. What are you doing? We got an abacus back there and you keep dropping it. You piece of shit.

Those guys are the first job to get replaced by AI and robotics. It could be done right now. AI, you could get a robot arm. Just for like a Atari 2600, like it, Yeah. Count to 60. Like, 59, 60.

They could do it by like a scale. Why don't they weigh the pills? Why are they measuring them? Why don't you just have a good scale to weigh them and drop them into my fucking bottle and then send a fuck, let me walk back there, pick it up. I'm an adult. I hate pharmacists.

I think that they're like mattress salesmen. It's not a real career. There's some sort of money laundering going on in the backend. Your uncle owns the store and his uncle owned it before him. And you're really just mobsters or something. Pill counting piece of shit. Pharmacists saved hope.

Yeah, they should just sell Adderall over the counter. That's the mortuary business. Yeah, they gave an adult, she was a baby. She had thrush or something and they prescribed her like an adult dosage to fix it. And the pharmacist is like, is this for a three week old? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no. And they caught the doctor's mistake

and gave the correct dosage. Well, I guess in that one instance. We should just grab better doctors. Sounds like, I mean, you had quite the lawsuit on your hands, but I guess this outcome's preferable. Give me the adult dose. We need damages.

Shut up, counter! Give me them pills. If we have to have an entire profession whose job it is to fix fuck-ups of another profession, just fix the other profession I just feel like they're a useless middleman in the scheme of things I can't imagine anything else like like coming to you that way with that middle man who counts it there at the end it's like yeah like a gallon of milk and there's a guy who fucking dispenses it for me at the grocery store like no they're so bad at their jobs why? Why does it take a day or two to get the prescription? Why does it take so many hours like it?

And even if the doctor is like, I'm calling in your prescription right now. OK, cool. Why does it take six, eight hours for it to be available? It's it's no sense. Well, it makes no sense. Sometimes it's a bottle of what's a lot like a bank. Oh, sometimes they don't actually have bills like a bank. They claim to them. It's like. Bring it in the back.

You know, that's just it's like getting gas in New Jersey. The name stayed at work. Yes, he's saying. You never had to do that. Like every group in New Jersey, we loved it. It's bullshit. Every time, like, are you supposed to tip the guy? Like every time I go to New Jersey, like, and I have to fill up gas, like, and I honestly, because like most of my experiences in New Jersey have been just like stopping off I-95 on my way some place better. And I'm gonna own this here. I grew up in Maryland and in the D.C. area.

New Jersey is just like if you took all of the bad stuff about Maryland and made it like 5% more that way. It's just like, you know, Maryland with 5% more rules, 5% more Italian. Ocean City Maryland wishes it was Ocean City, New Jersey when it grew up. That's fair. I mean, Ocean City, New Jersey is better. Ocean City, Maryland is like, you know, it honestly it's like, hey, what if we took New Jersey? Hey, what if we took? I won't tolerate it. What if we took Ocean City, New Jersey and then we just added like a lot of crime?

Like actually like a like a lot a lot. OK, Woody, if New Jersey is so good why are y'all old moving down into the south the weather's not why the way it's the smell yeah i i don't know about the what are you the garden state what's growing in that garden I don't know about the, what are you, the garden state? What's growing in that garden? Smells like socks. You know what? It has 6% less nickel cadmium than St. Louis. We got that going for us.

There are other options. No, it's either New Jersey or St. Louis. That's where you have to live. And by the way, lots of St. Louis is nice. The county is very nice. Don't malign us with our horrible third of St. Louis is nice. The county is very nice. Don't malign us with our horrible third world city. It is nice. That fucking arch of yours gets me every time I see it.

That thing is so stupid. Ooh, look, we got half of McDonald's. Hey. I think it's silly. Look, when you get your hammer murder statistics down, then I'll hear about the tourism opportunities and jolly old st Louis. Oh, no, you certainly shouldn't travel here for tourism. You might be attacked Don't do that you you will be you will be attacked but the arch is pretty cool

One thing I don't like is the st. Louis Mandate the city proper that no building can be taller than the arch. Really? And so that has created some odd setups. It should have a swing in the middle. It should have one of those swings in the middle where you like put the person in the harness where they're on their belly like Superman and then you like click, click, click, click, like you pull them way back on the other end and let them swing in the middle

of the arch. That might be tight. Oh, like the slingshot. Yeah. Yeah, I was, like the slingshot. Yeah. I was going to... I wish it should be like one of those... Slingshot deportation strategy. Oh!

All the way to Canada! All the way to the world's largest slingshot! That's a long shot. I'm not sure if it faces Canada, Mexico, or one of the oceans, but the idea works in any direction. Well, it faces... Just end in the east. works in any direction. Well, it faces- Just send them east. It's west-

East St. Louis. Yeah, it's west to east. Oh yeah, you could send them to East St. Louis and they'll very quickly be like, I want to go home. I want to go back to Honduras. It's nicer than East St. Louis. East St. Louis is such a fucking scab on our city. I hate it.

It's scary. It's the worst. Yeah, it's like it's you know, someplace is bad when they are like, you know, okay, we're going to legally define you as a separate city. We had thought we had to say, I thought East St. Louis was kind of cool. But I have a little bit of adrenaline junkie in me. You are a little bit Woody, you are a total adrenaline junkie in me. You are a little bit woody. You are a total adrenaline junkie.

So of course you thought I was gone. No, it's dangerous as hell. It's like visiting Chernobyl. It is. It's like, you see yards that haven't been mowed in ever. Like, it looks like a Sahara or not Sahara. It looks like a lush environment where there's just grass that's up to your neck in a yard and someone lives there.

It's some trap house where a bunch of drug dealers live. It sucks. It's an embarrassment to our whole city that that is allowed to exist the way it is with so little actual meaningful reduction in crime. Every fucking year, it's the same thing. We top those lists of like the worst American cities. And I want to be like, no, it's not us. The county's really nice. It's a largely nice place to live. It's just the city proper and East St. Louis that ruin it for everyone else. Only place that I've been more fucked up is Gary, Indiana.

I don't know if any of you have ever played the stalker games. That's what Gary, Indiana is. Are there anomalies? I mean, damn near. There are part- Mutated beasts? I've lived in Baltimore and I've been, you know, I've been some pretty gnarly places in Baltimore before.

Like there's parts of Baltimore that look like Fallout three. Like, you know, they've got rubble on the streets. Yeah. But it's like, you know, in Gary, it's like there aren't even raiders anymore. They don't even have raiders. It's that desolate. Mutants. It's just like, you know, you just hear like this. A mutated dog walks by. What were you doing spending time in East St. Louis? Driving through it.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Usually Google directs you around it. Yeah. That one's on Google. It does. That one's on me for being like, oh no, this is faster. Oh yeah, I'm just gonna fire right through here.

Ah, I'm pretty low. There's no worse place in America to be low on gas than East St. Louis. It's terrifying. Yeah, Louisville, Kentucky was pretty sketchy at night. Memphis, there's parts of like maybe East Memphis that was real sketch late at night. There's parts of Atlanta. I don't even know where they were, but I've been there before. It was sketch. I was in L.A.

one time at a convention and all the rooms were booked, but I wanted to fuck this girl. But so I didn't I needed a room to fuck her in. So I was trying to get another room to fuck in. And like all of them were booked. So we were having to leave like the nice area of LA, where the hotels are, and go to the like I saw three gang members pressed up against a wall with like cops pointing guns at them. Like, we were only four turns from where the nice hotels were. I was like, all right, go back. I'll get the nice room. I'll get the nice room. We're not, we're not going deeper into this jungle of scariness. Um, there's definitely some sketchy ass cities. Um, the homeless encampments in Orleans or, oh yeah, New Orleans has some wild homeless

New Orleans. You can't even tell who's homeless because like someone who's having a good time basically is wearing homeless garb themselves. You know, they're disabled. They got rent. Everything's mismatched. They're drunk. Got to look like this smell like this. Got to look at the shoes or oboe. You don't know. Yeah. Looking at the shoes clues you in. That's a Clues you in. That's a joke or story I mentioned on the show many years ago is that I thought my entire life growing up and living in St. Louis that all homeless people were like St. Louis homeless. And then I went to Seattle and I was blown away. I was like, these guys are wearing like a six and eating out of a bowl. They're like doing like people stuff

and they seem smug about this. No, I had the opposite experience. Really? When I went to Seattle, so. You just stole my job. When I went to Seattle, I remember I had to walk a very long way to get to E3 to get to the conference or the convention center.

And so I would see a lot of homeless on the way there and there was a dead pigeon that they had eaten like wild men on the like right there next to the sidewalk and they had picked it to the bones clean and it was laying there being eaten by ants that they had like consumed and then we all went down to the war I think war or the fear whatever the fuck water obviously and we all went down to the war, I think war or the fear or whatever the fuck water obviously And we all had like seafood at the same restaurant and on the way back We must have walked by a group. It was like in the zombie movie where every the coast is clear And then you turn the corner and there's like a horde of zombies just waiting to be like like go go aggro

But it was homeless like some light shined on them. And like 20 grown men like kind of sprinted away from us into the shadows. It was so scary. I was like, what is that? Oh, that's where the homeless live down in there. What the fuck? At least they're keeping to themselves, which is what I liked about the Seattle homeless. Because every time I last time I went to a blues game, our hockey team in St. Louis, because I love the blues, you leave and like everyone who leaves the

arena is in an alliance where it's like we can't all be assaulted, we have to move as a group and there's a guy under highway 40 which is close to a lot of the parking area. And he was just yelling. He was just over and over doing like screaming under this underpass. And it was echoing and it was kind of scary. And you could see him doing it. He wasn't wearing many clothes and he was just screaming there. And then meanwhile, like the calm St. Louis homeless, are guys like that will like touch your shoulder to get you to like take a piece of gum from them or something. And it's like, I'm not going to take your gum because then you're going to demand money of me. Like this is some fucking fucking Italian some Rome Rose scheme you're

trying to pull on me right now like no I'm not gonna take the ice breakers that you have in your hand right now I'm certainly not reaching in with my fingers to your ice breakers container to take a mint you don't have you have six teeth in your mouth and you're wild-eyed looking at me right now and so you just have to keep moving and that's something that shouldn't be abided. They're waiting for you, right? The homeless, they know that you're leaving. They're waiting for you the whole time.

So there was, there's one cool homeless that plays a saxophone, like shockingly well. Like he's rocking on that saxophone. And so I like that guy. Other than him, everyone sucks. What? Or does he pretend to be homeless? Fake homeless. Apparently that's a thing.

Oh, yeah. Clean up. Yeah. Yeah. That guy probably has an apartment and he's just lying. So after the hockey games in Atlanta, if you in between periods, if you wanted to smoke, you could go out of this little area and go out through these double doors to the exterior. And they had like velvet

ropes wrapped around an area for for just that so that you could get outdoors but still technically be a ticketed like I'm supposed to be in this building kind of guy. And the homeless would wait right there because they knew that you were coming there and you had cigarettes. And they would beg for cigarettes and they beg for money and it was just like a constant presence and we all smoked like chimneys so every period we're going out there to smoke it was I hate that I hate when they know you're coming like it's one thing when I'm walking down the street in Vegas it's awful the card snapping guys you know these you've never been to Vegas so

guys approach you on the strip with like a stack of business cards and usually it's like escort services weed services Taxi services anything and everything they might be pimping their fucking demo tape something like that But they're just like hustlers who are coming at you snapping those cards To get your attention and they'll trick you into taking one of those cards They've got like eight they've got all sorts of different like oh They'll drop the card and you'll pick it up and go to they'll do all sorts of nonsense to you I hate those guys too, and they'll have the fucking fake people dressed up as Batman

Scam yeah, how do they get you if you get their business card? I don't really get you they they've initiated conversation with you, but moreover They're just pushing some sort of thing usually it's drugs and sex on that the cards that have been given to me So I was you know, I'm taking them. I'm like, I was like, yeah Is it that hard to push drugs and sex on Kyle? No, not on me, but the you know, they're not in air conditioning to me I got yes, please and then You know, they're not air conditioning to me. I guess. Please. And there will be people who they run this hustle where it'll be like two really hot chicks in bikinis.

And they'll you want to take a picture. It's like, yeah. And then they want fifty dollars for the picture. You're like, I don't want it that bad. It was too late. You already got it now. And then you got to fight the women in the street. I don't have that kind of scam here. No, there was a different kind of scam. A couple of years ago, a picture or a video rather

of a homeless guy. If I recall the story correctly, it was like a phone video of a homeless guy with a gun, just like and he started the video. If I recall like Mr. Beast where he's like hey guys check out my content and then he walked over and killed a homeless guy another just just shot him in the head sitting on the sidewalk I remember this like yeah yeah oh I didn't realize he got that was happening for like a week or so Yeah, he killed like a couple people. I Remember the guy who was going around ex-con was crazy homeless

Like he would just go to a sleeping homeless person and just shoot that walk away Yeah, when I lived in the city about seven years ago or so before I'm right nice County There was a legitimate hammer murderer making his way around downtown St. Louis. And what he would do is he would beat people to death with a hammer. He would cudgel you to death, or more likely, he was beating homeless people to death with a hammer exactly like what Kyle's holding. It was this hammer. It was that hammer you bought it off.

And he was just executing people. No, I'm the one who's smashing. It's such a fucking humiliation. It's a humiliation for our once great city. And I hate it. He's lucky he didn't bump into this guy I know from St. Louis with the Homer Simpson skull. He's lucky. He would have dented his hammer on my

My thick skull my Neanderthal skull Yeah, it it stinks. It stinks like living air Tom you live in or I'm Do you say where you live? I live in the general DC area. Okay I've got a lot of time living in, oh yes, oh yeah. God, like I've, like a month ago,

and I swear to God at this point, I have like, I get canceled probably once a month for like an increasingly silly thing each time. But yeah, like I got so many people upset at me, like, last month, because I, you know, said that I think it's bad to throw used syringes on the sidewalk. And it's like, it's like, you know, what are you some kind of fascist? And it's like, what are you, some kind of fascist? And it's like, man, it's used syringes. Yeah. It's unbelievably dangerous.

You probably at least throw them in the trash, come on. I wonder if you would have taken heat if it had been cigarette butts. I mean, probably from a different group of people, but it's also like, I don't care about that. It's definitely- No, cigarette smokers are the kindest of vice users of all. They bend at the whims of the public time and time again. You've never seen maybe you've seen a psycho light one up on a plane, but it's usually like because they're drunk and it's a reflex

and they're immediately like, oh my God, what have I done? That reaction they're having that fear. Oh my God, what have I done? That reaction they're having, that fear, oh my god, what have I done? Society has turned them into bitches. They're used to smoking fucking sections that were bigger than the non-smoking sections, god damn it. Y'all are the weird ones for not liking nicotine. That was the way of the day and we've completely gone the other way. Those people are happy to do whatever they can do to not bug you with their vice. Smokers are great. And they're kind. I bet if you went like, I bet if you're trying to bum some cocaine or bum some.

So no one ever says, let me bum some. Yeah, come on. Really? Hey, those are fighting words. I feel like pot smokers, one, even less violent, right? They don't get grumpy. If anything, they get chill. And sharing a doobie,

I don't even know what these things are. That's what they call them. Yeah. Sharing doobies is like part of the culture, right? Yeah. A reefer. They're calling it the devil's lettuce nowadays. Form me a tall glass of doobies and let's get wild.

What would you call the thing you pass around? A blunt? A joint. A blunt or a joint.? A blunt is like a different thing. So what you're going for is like a hand rolled marijuana cigarette. So that blunts suck, joints are all right. I like blunts too. Blunts hit hard. I like that nicotine bunt. I don't need that fucking grape flavored. I want peach first of all, and we're gonna get wild with it. You smoking backwoods? Not, no, I get like a chance.

Backwoods. If I were actually gonna do it. I remember, Kyle. If I were actually gonna do it, I would get like wraps that are made for weed. Like one of our sponsors sent us a bunch, and they smell like strawberry shortcake. Like they smell so good.

Those were so strong, it was inappropriate. The like fruitiness of them? No, the power of how high I got when I smoked them. Wait, those wraps didn't have wheat in them already? Mine are still in the package. Oh, I was thinking about the the tubular ones we got that were pre-rolled and they had the crystals on the end. Those fucked me up. Those are great too. Yeah, yeah, that's a different thing though. Tom, I saw like what you were talking about with the syringe thing.

And I think I saw your tweets like arguing with people about it, where you were just like, hey morons, if you're trying to associate fascism with no syringes on the street and less murder and less crime, you're gonna turn people towards that. So please reevaluate your perspectives on these things

and realize regardless of affiliation, we should be pushing this away. Yeah, cause it's like, I don't think it's that much to ask for to be like, okay, like things that you don't wanna step in, needles, human shit, dead bodies. Like it's like, okay, that's like a baseline. And people are like, I don't want to step in needles, human shit, dead bodies. Like it's like, OK, that's like a baseline. And people are like, you know, I don't know.

I that that's pretty. Pretty reasonable. Is that fascist? I don't think so. I think that's just normal people wanting a normal place. So I go through a lot of needles. I use a TRT and some other legal stuff that I prescribe that I inject. And I leave behind a lot of needles and I am so aware of how like the site of used needles skeaves people out. Like,

you don't know what I'm doing if you glance at them, you know, you don't know like what I have. Like, like, if I see a used needle sitting there, I'm thinking like, that might be an AIDS dart like that might be an AIDS dart that might be an AIDS dart right there the one that ruins my life that's an AIDS dart like as far as I'm concerned it is if I see a an unattended fucking sharp sharp needle so when I dispose of them I I do a really good job like like I put them in a special container I like like I put the caps back on I put them in a bottle. Like, I get rid of them.

Like anything as long as it's not just throwing it on the ground like a used Zin. Mm-hmm. Which, it's just like, it'll be, you know, it'll be like on the stoop of my building. Like just walking down onto the, and it's like really, like, not even in the trash can. Just like, you know. know yeah it's still got blood on it fell out of his vein and then went where it lay for a fell it's all bad and crooked I'd have to find the post but there was a funny one about someone in East st. Louis who posted a picture in a bathroom and was like,

how the hell are people breaking into a sharps container? Like, what are you doing? Why would you steal from that? You get all of it and you boil it out and then you dehydrate it and you get the little bit of heroin that was missed. Oh my god. I used my needles you know like the idea of reusing a needle skeeves me out and it's like my needle and everything's like sterilized. I pulled a needle out of my ass one time and like the angle was funny and I had the needle was bent like almost all the way over because I had like You know it takes a long time to squeeze a whole syringe

It ached a lot of the shots in the ass ache real bad if I'm being honest if you if you don't go slow You're putting so much liquid in the muscle tissue that you can like bruise it internally if you inject yourself like a turkey Yeah, Oh carnitine. Yeah But you're good More experience taking shots in the ass than anyone. I know. Oh you have no idea No, I do though I I would not it last up when I got that That that injection at the doctor a few years ago. I I was like, please let me inject myself Yeah, I know what I'm doing and you're gonna hurt me that injection at the doctor a few years ago. I was like, please let me inject myself. I know what I'm doing and you're going to hurt me. Did they lay you? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was she was cool. She probably get a lawsuit medical license for that. That doesn't seem too kosher to

to let me do the injection. It seems like the thank you with the homeless. Not issues. The pills government. We won It seems like Reagan really fucked us on that homeless shit by shutting down all the asylums. Oh, yeah. Come on. That's not the answer, though. That's a huge answer. These people are mentally ill. We're wanting to house them.

No, you can't house them like like so many medium shirts. You'll never fit in again. You know, you can't just tuck them away. Since I was 14, I've never fit into a medium. Well, if not as sane as Siloam's, then are we back to the big slingshot idea? Yeah. What do we do with them? I think that they need to be evaluated and triaged and some of them need to be killed and some of them need, I mean, some of them just straight up liquidated. some of them need to be Killed and some of them need I mean some straight up liquidated some of them need to be

What is it when you make somebody work and do a job like against their will whatever that is, but slavery slavery No, not that's a bad I like indentured service for slavery No, not that not hard labor either wacky like crazy labor about like an implied labor and implied labor though something like that some they need some of them need to be like destroyed some of them need to be put to work we'll say and then some of them could be rehabilitated but you know it's it you can't one-size-fits- this problem. Some of them will need to be launched from the St. Louis sling shop.

If that's what needs to be done, but I mean, the kids a lot of these people, St. Louis homeless 99% of them need to be in an asylum somewhere, because they're not a guy who lost his job. And then is like struggling. They're mentally ill, and they're struggling and they really need some help. And so maybe we can provide that help. Serious question.

I'm not opposed to your thoughts, but I can't tell if they're like schizophrenic, need mental help or currently on something. Do you know the difference? A lot of overlap, a lot of overlap there. Usually both. Okay. Yeah. Generally, if you're that level of destitute, there is a drug issue, whether or not you're a truly crazy person who can't be rehabilitated or someone who could eventually be a, you know, work at Barnes world country does not allow the kind of people I see after every single blues game

Hanging out outside of establishments like that's not what a serious country does you go We have a mentally ill population. We need to care for them. We need to look after them We need to put them in a place where they cannot harm themselves or others I don't know. Your problem is rally just outlawed being homeless. So Fixed it Well,igh's a nicer city. You had three homeless. The six guys. I also have some thoughts that like asylum seems bad, but I don't like the idea of maybe it's just what I picture

in asylum as being some like government hospital, like tucked away outside a major city. I don't think anybody's getting well there. I kind of want to send them to like a camp in the Midwest, like like like Montana, an actual camp like maybe in woods, like like a summer camp. Yeah, exactly. Like a summer camp. I want to get these guys some macaroni some craft glue outdoor time like get them out of that big city long yeah this is different kind of camp now you get them away from the drugs

they're out in my you know fucking bullshit Montana growing tomatoes or whatever they could take the train there. Mm-hmm. And if they don't want to get on, we just kind of prod them a little bit and get them on there. We can airdrop them. I don't care. Whatever the military wants to do, you know? I just think that something needs to be done about them.

How could you be against sending homeless to asylums? It would help them. It would help the community. I don't know what an asylum is, I guess. Like I would need need when I think asylum Can I interrupt because I bet you're thinking of one flew over the cuckoo's nest Of course, i'm thinking of a place where there isn't enough Oversight i'm thinking of stories in the past where people have gone undercover into asylums as journalists

And they find them mentally incompetent and won't let them out. Oh, like get a cut follies? I don't know that. What's your reference? What is that? That was a documentary that came out in the sixties about like basically abuses in the New York state mental institutions. I kind of like Kyle's idea. It even sounds cost-effective.

Like propping up log cabins in the woods as a way to like help people readjust find their center experience some sort of ego death. I don't know. Sounds like a good start. Send them the Yellowstone. There's a lot of trash needs to be cleaned up. The bears won't mind. You know, maybe don't put them back where they came from. No, if you return someone who's in that position to where they were before they'll return to their old lifestyle I could just imagine like it's that if you get them out in the country and have them gardening vegetables, and there's not another fix of heroin or

Whatever around the corner you would just think that would be helpful They'd still want to get, need to want to get help, I think. But like, the mental illness is a problem too. Some of it can be treated and some of it clearly can't. That's the ones you need to liquidate. Tanner Iskra Well, it seems like we're pursuant to the same goal. Jason Bahl I want them off the street! Tanner Iskra I don't want these people

and their gibbers echoing off an underpass while I'm trying to get back to my car after a high. That's a fun word. And that is what it is. It's the gibbers of an insane person who is shirtless and more jacked than you would expect a homeless person going, how, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. How do they maintain that much mass? They're clearly not hungry. When I was living in the city for a while,

or not even downtown, I was living in central West End, which is way shittier now than when I lived there in 2018. I learned firsthand the whole like, oh, these, because you know, you're liberal, you're thinking this and that. And you're like, these guys are just hungry. They just need food and water. And then you offer a homeless guy where he's like,

man, you give me, you got $10? And it's like, no, but I'll buy you a sandwich from Coffee Cartel. I'll buy you a sandwich from Coffee Cartel right here. We can walk over and he'll be like, no, but I'll buy you a sandwich from Coffee Cartel. I'll buy you a sandwich from Coffee Cartel right here. We can walk over and he'll be like, man, fuck you. And it's like, all right. Well, like, then I guess we're not doing that. Yeah, just animosity.

My dad always helps the homeless and people who are down on their luck in like his area, though, aren't like city hard drug homeless. It's usually some like older woman or older guy who's just sitting there by the dumpsters at McDonald's looking sad and he'll just like, hey, you okay? Of course they're not okay. They're sitting by the dumpsters at McDonald's looking sad, but he'll drive them around town and buy them. He'll take them to the grocery store and fill their fridge up with groceries.

He's always doing that. I don't I don't trust those people, but he does. He likes doing good, I suppose. Well, I mean, homeless, they're. They're regional. I didn't know people had fridges. OK, I was just going to say that sometimes they're just down on their luck. They just like, they don't have a car, but they've got a place to stay, then they're just kind of wandering the outside begging for food basically. Yeah, that just sounds like a loser. Let me know if any of y'all ever ran into this scam at a gas station where the person says, hey, I'm traveling, I'm heading this there or the other, and my card isn't working, could you give me a little gas or a little gas money? And

they're waiting there at the pump. Has anyone ever done this to you? Mm-hmm. No, I've had people try. It must be, someone got me with that scam when I was like 19, and then I can't, but it was right next to the bar where we drank every night, so that I was there the next night again And there she was still needing gas money to get the floor and I'm like You motherfucker I've been had I've been had I swiped my card and put and put ten dollars worth of gas in your car Yeah, yeah, I hopefully you put did you hang up the pump afterwards? Yeah, you know I was 19. She wasn going to like clear the bank out too badly anyway.

I mean, it seems like we're all largely on the same page of the homeless need to be moved somewhere. Like they got to. Whether they like it or not. Literally, yes. Yeah. Like you, you need to move them into an asylum or like a big farm for them to, you know, make berries or whatever. It's probably you back if he

expanded ICE in a way that made them responsible for the unhoused and he started using the exact same tactics and procedures and facilities for the homeless. He's not even doing real deal mass deportations. Yeah, this guy's still not happy with the numbers. The numbers are lower than they're way too low. It's a it's a farce. He's not doing real deal mass deportations. And he's also gay and hiding the fucking Epstein shit. And so fuck him. Fuck Trump.

I hope this shit follows him. I hope it destroys him. I would love to see. I would love to see. Yeah. For the next eight, you know, however many months. For covering for this pedophile shit. Fuck him. If he survives his presidency, he won't be able to walk down the street without someone screaming pedophile at him. Like, like that's what he's done. And he doesn't know it yet. Like he doesn't know it. And his realization is going to be something to watch over the next months and days and years and whatever, because he still doesn't get it when you see him speak publicly. He still doesn't. Dude, he has no clue how many people like me who voted for him simply because we see the other

side is totally unpalatable. Like he thinks we're going to go along with it. It's like, fuck you. Like you're hiding a pedophile ring right now and you can say all this shit like the Democrats could have released it when they were in power. It's like, yeah, no shit. Who cares? You're in power now.

Release. Yeah. I wish the Democrats had done better. Uh, Pelosi's one of them. Like, like, like the mainstream Democrats seemingly are like afraid of them and theirs being, they want to move past it too. They all want to move. Not all of them. I mean, if you look at the house, the ones that aren't

integrated kind of line up for it. But Schumer, Pelosi. Dude, Schumer, Pelosi, and Hakeem Jeffries are some of my least favorite Democrats. I can hardly think of anyone less charismatic and able to get support from the bottom up. Top down, these are powerful people. Bottom up, no one's inspired by Schumer.

I can hardly get through a Hakeem Jeffries video in their 90 seconds long. The guy dulls me instantly. So we need more charismatic leadership. You know, it's a fun fact about Anthony Blinken. Do you know who his dad was and who his childhood best friend was? Both Epstein. Anthony Blinken, who was, I believe, he was Biden's secretary of state. His dad was Bob Maxwell's personal lawyer, and his childhood best friend was Jelaine. Jesus.

Really? Yeah. I saw the picture today of Jelaine at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. That's those two were so well connected with everyone and at every level. It's wild. Wait, so he was Anthony Blinken was tight with Robert Maxwell. Anthony Blinken's dad was Robert Maxwell's like personal lawyer.

Like his like the way that Rudy Giuliani was for Trump. Like he was, he was his guy. And allegedly as a result of that incredibly close relationship, like Blinken and Maxwell spent a lot of time together, like growing up, and were very, very close friends. I heard just Lane is speaking to DOJ today about a possible deal or something. Yeah, someone said that she might've been overcharged and that she didn't do as much as they said she did.

So they're talking about sweetening up her deal. Oh yeah, that's the real miscarriage of justice is they're trying to correct our honor it's a reality show they were too you're right Tom they were too mean issue here is they were like hey you know you do your pedophile ring we're gonna try and not be too mean about calling you on it yeah it's so top to bottom fucking corrupt. Yeah, no, we got to we got to make room for the real victim here. Jolene Maxwell.

Which I think personally, if she's really going to get away with all this, she should have to post tits. You can she already has like you can go see them. You can see the big old honkers. I haven't seen. I've only seen that picture of her with the woman who owns the Atlantic. Oh yeah. Sitting there like looking at paperwork and she's got those fucking melons dude.

And that makes me. It makes me like her. I mean you know she seems like good people, you know? She seems like... dude, she's got fucking hangover. We wish her well, right? We gotta wish her well. We wish her well. Just like our Lord Ember.

Well, obviously we wish her well because there wasn't a pedophile ring and there's no evidence and so obviously it's totally hokum nonsense, right? You can do better, Zach. That nude is so bad, we could show it. Oh my god. Are you sure that's not a Barbie doll? Oh come on. I'm not I'm not impressed with this. I don't you know I'll make it work but it's gonna take a lot of imagination. That's all I'm saying. A good deal of imagine.

I've climbed dollar mountains. The isn't it a tiny bit upsetting though that it seems like every aspect of both parties of our political apparatus are totally blackmailed by a pedophile operation. Like, yeah, I would say it's a little bit more than a tiny bit upsetting. I would say it's largely upsetting. What else does it seem like they're being blackmailed by? Like, what two things go together? Maybe there's rampant support for Israel despite the war crimes and genocide. It's weird that those two things happen in parallel. Yeah, I'm curious. Yeah, I'm curious. Hmm. Very curious.

It makes you see patterns. One interesting thing is Epstein's connection to Bill Barr. It all comes back to the skin bank and those cyberbores. Oh yeah, the Bill Barr connection is crazy. What's the Bill Barr connection to Epstein? Bill Barr was the one who got him his first job at what school was that? Dalton? It was his father. It was the Dalton school and it was his father who wrote this very

interesting book. Yeah. Bill Barr's father, A.G. Bill Barr under Trump. Donald Barr wrote this book called Space Relations, which was essentially about like human race going interplanetary and some people slipping off into the space and having like this federation or something like that. And to fight this like alien invasion, this one guy is sent to negotiate with this one planet that's like ruled by like immortal oligarchs that will steal children and rape them. That's merely circumstantial. Is the plant, are they from the planet Israel? I haven't read the book. In the Middle Eastern sector of the Galactic Core.

Why do so many of these conspiracies end in the same way where it's like, it seems to be this other country. I don't want to say who it was. You don't want to say. I'm not going to say what kind of doctor it was. It was a Jewish doctor. want to say. I'm not going to say what kind of doctor it was. Yeah, exactly. It was a Jewish doctor. It was a Jewish doctor, which I still maintain is maybe the best and funniest delivery of a joke I've ever heard. Yeah, where he was like, I'm not going to tell you what kind of doctor it was. It was a Jewish doctor.

He kept his secrets for four and a half. He can't resist. He just has to say about it. And it's very, very funny. But that is a frustrating thing. And now he's been vindicated, of course. Yep. Now he's been vindicated.

If Kanye had popped off with all the all that crazy Nazi stuff like after you know things got bad and in Palestine I think that it would have been much more well accepted everybody really railed against him in a unified front you know debanking him and deplatforming him and it seemed like his wife was going to leave him although she has come back to him inexplicably now that gorgeous Bianca Sensori chick is once again on his arm wearing nothing showing her hoo-ha to the world she's mom that's how i know that that there is a god above us looking down as Kanye's wife is still like flashing her asshole on the internet well also Kanye was like doing god's sharing graphics that were objectively wrong.

Like he was he was sharing like day one babies conspiracy level stuff. And it's like he's like, get a look at this graphic. Look at all the red spooky, right? Those are the Jews. And it's like. I'm pretty sure that graphic has like Bob Iger lift listed like 30 times. Like, it's just not credible

whatsoever. But that's what he's sharing trying to get in on it. Yeah, he, I believe him that that was a Jewish doctor. I trust him. There's a lot of Jewish doctors. They're smart and they're good at doctoring. Jewish doctor. I trust them. There's a lot of Jewish doctors. They're smart and they're good at doctoring. And then the comedy of him having that diamond swastika made by what must have been a Jewish jeweler, you know, checks out, you know. Like that could be a reality show episode that would be tremendous. Why doesn't he have his own reality show? Like I couldn't give a shit

less about the Kardashians. I've never seen a moment of that show. I might have seen screenshots of it on Reddit a time or two. But a Kanye show? Oh my God. I tuned into that every night. If it was just following Kanye around the world and Bianca's being a whore with him all the time and just him just just going to China and putting on a show. I saw him thanking the government of China on Twitter the other day. Like his life seems fascinatingly weird and entertaining. I want to watch what Kanye's up to right now.

He's one of the only people in the world that I think actually should be like an IRL streamer. As long as that big titted bitches with them too. Oh my God. Yaka says, sorry. Her family is real in with the Italian mob in Australia. I'm not joking. Not straight.

Mobbed up. Yeah. It's a big thing. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. Interesting. So I never even conceived that the Italian mob was operating in Australia.

What's the story there? Well, there was a lot of Italian immigrants to Australia after the Second World War. Like I knew a guy who was like Italian living in Australia. There's a lot of like immigrant communities down there and stuff like that. But yeah, there was this whole thing with like a corrupt politician that would expedite these certain people's immigration like paperwork and they all turned out to be part of the mob and then they kind of got into drug trafficking from, I think from the Golden Triangle, you know, up there in like Thailand and all that shit. I have something to add.

I'm reading, Kanye West's wife Bianca Sensori is the daughter of a notorious Australian gangster jailed for heroin dealing and her uncle, dubbed Melbourne's Al Capone, was sentenced to death in the 80s. And then you scroll down and you can see her big old fat tits. Jesus Christ. Oh yeah. Damn. Big fan of her. I didn't know the Italian mom.

Pam Bondi is also a mom. Pam Bondi, tell us that. I didn't know that actually. Like her, like, like her, one of her maternal grandparents was like part of a real heavy mob family. She has all sorts of weird connections. A lot of people don't know about like heavily with like being a, like a lobbyist for Qatar for a long time. Y'all probably talked about that before, I think. But also Scientology. Interesting. I don't picture them as a power player. Oh, they got so much money. There was like,

there was one operation that... Operation Snow White. Operation Snow White. Yes, yes, like Snowball or Snow White. What's going on with my camera? But like they infiltrated, why isn't it focusing? They infiltrated pretty much every like American police agency and deleted files related to their organization and structure. Why is it?

It looks like it's just in like one. The government's trying to shut you down. There's a reason I don't do Tick-Tock lives no more. It says operations, no large infiltrations of the US government in history with up to 5000 covert agents. That's also Wikipedia, which is largely nonsense sometimes, but even so, if they're admitting to that, it would be even more. That's crazy. Damn. So Pam Bondi. Yeah, she's like, yeah.

Pam Bondi is mobbed. The thing is, people don't understand that the Italian mob, and a lot of these different organized crime groups in the United States, they never really went away. They just kind of formalized and became part of the power structure. She seemed like such an upstanding citizen. Well, Woody, I think you should save your hat. Make sure you don't throw that thing away immediately or anything, because I would love it if that became a part of the show going forward, if we could bring out the conspiracy hat regularly.

It's incredible. Tell Jackie, that's a 10 out of 10 conspiracy hat she made. She shamed all the other hats. It should be a different hat each time. Thank you for saying so. When I saw it, I was afraid I would look silly, but it's good to know that the hat is terrific. I never even put mine on because I was so embarrassed I got an Admiral's cap may have a four in the other room I wasn't even about to bring it in here after I saw that fucking

Dutchie my goodness look at that love it oh we went all out it really does look like like one of those Kentucky Derby hats Are there any I know we're towards the end here, but are there any other Fantastic conspiracies we can talk about tap into while we have Tom Brad here Really interesting something real quick. Oh, okay Just bear with me pull it out. He's pulling his cock out! I'll do that. One second, one second. This is PG television here.

He just showed us his dick. He did. Way bigger than Trump's South Park. I think he's been fluffing it for the last few minutes though. Just, you know, all cards on the table It's all green looking though, it's really weird I Thought that was glitter oh he's got a That's great. That's like a lot of tasteful. So many. No, I get to.

Oh, yeah. You're Jewish. So you get to you get to have fun with that. Well, you say that first before you do that next. I said earlier. I don't have my guard up if I'd known. You would have believed this could be a secret. I don't know. He seems to go pretty hard on Israel. So I wouldn't hold that against him. You guys ready to rap? Yeah!

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