Painkiller Already - PKA 767 W/ SantiZap: Kyle Was Jealous Of His Teachers Fiancée
Episode Date: August 30, 2025...
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PCA 767 with our guest, Santys app.
Taylor.
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Santi, good to have you on.
Always a pleasure.
The Raja News, adjacent to you and adjacent to Kyle and Woody's interest.
I'm a bit left out in the Colt, but I can pretend.
So what's your take on this whole thing?
Well, first of all, thanks for having me on again.
And my little corner of the internet pro wrestling, like,
was paying attention to it and then I'm pretty sure we cursed Hulk Hogan because he died like
four days after we talked about him for like 30 minutes then Brock Lesnar came back through all the
P video allegations he's back and now the Raja stuff so now everyone's looking at professional
wrestling you ask my take on it I think it's there's only like one correct take it's and it's that
it's good for my career it's attempted murder in every way
way, shape, and form.
The only, there's like a subset of people that believe that Raja is in the right.
And those are the typical grifters that you see on Twitter that are just being like on
purpose trying to incite engagement.
Yeah.
The other side are the people that just simply don't know any better and don't understand
the context of what happened with professional wrestling and whatnot, which by the way,
I find it hilarious that I spent my whole life arguing with people about like wrestling
is fake and whatnot. And now I'm having to remind people, wrestling is fucking fake? Not all of the sudden,
is it real? If there are still people that don't fall in either of those camps, then I think
they're just stupid people. I genuinely think that this is just attempted murder. If you still think
that Raja is somehow in the right that he's justified, I don't know what to tell you.
I have a specific question as a potentially stupid person. The thing where he hit the beer on Raja's
head, right? And I saw what I think was beer like splash out. Did he break the can? Did he have
his thumb on the hole? Or did he hit him hard? Do you know how that's done? Yeah, it's, it's gimmicked.
They know how to do that so that it doesn't hurt. Now, the fundamental problem with this is that
it looks like that wasn't talked about beforehand. Now, I'll tell you from my personal experience.
I've done what Raja had to do there, not attempt to kill somebody, but do a spot with an
the organization. What they did is they brought me there an hour early. Hey, here's who you're
working with. Hey, nice to meet you. Here are the plans that we're going to do. By the way,
I'm going to say some really mean things. Are you okay with that? Yeah, I'm okay with that.
I'm going to push you really hard. Are you okay with that? Yeah, I'm okay with that. Here's how you
hit somebody with a chair. All of the things were explained to me so that I didn't hurt somebody
so that I didn't make myself look like a dumbass and so that I didn't make the wrestlers look like
dumbasses. I think that step was completely skipped in this Raja situation, because it's very
clear Raja was there to do a spot for Knox Pro. I don't think that he just randomly showed up
to this small indie organization. He was there to make content, but clearly somewhere along the
way, there was no communication. And then when Psychostu breaks into character, I think that Raja
is caught off guard. He, his feelings are hurt. And by the way,
They warned me, like, I'm going to try and hurt your feelings.
Are you okay with that when they were talking me through things?
And I think in that lapse of communication, that's where all of this ended up happening.
Now, it doesn't justify what Raja did.
I'm just pointing out some logistical flaws in what happened in this situation where it's professional wrestlers,
people that do this for a living, and a dude that doesn't.
You really got to, like, nurture that situation and,
and really massage it so that it doesn't go poorly.
And not only did it go poorly,
it was literally nuclear,
the worst possible situation that could have happened.
Yeah.
Well, not the worst possible situation.
He could have killed.
He succeeded.
He could have gone a little bit far.
Fair.
But that was like,
that was three times as long as the fight club scene
of Brad Pitt doing that to the blonde guy.
Like that scene was less time in the movie.
less egregious than what he did just just bananas like you can't have that guy running around
did they arrest him yet or is he still just chilling i think he's just chilling as far as i've seen
what i'm assuming is that they're doing a major investigation as to whether or not it's worth
to charge him with attempted murder like do they have enough coming through all of the footage
Knox pro the organization is being incredibly not helpful with the police they're keeping their
mouth shut because I think they know that there is a lot that could be pointed at them.
If you've combed through the footage, the promoter of that gives Raja the green light,
hey, get in there and get your lick back.
Why that should not be happening.
Let me talk about that.
So what he told him was to get your receipt.
And I just use context clues to mean, like, hurt him.
I'm not attempted murder, but like, is receipt a known term?
Does that mean something specific?
Can you explain it to me?
Yeah, a receipt in wrestling is when somebody that you are wrestling with or working with
does something where they might go into business for themselves to purposely make you look bad
or they sandbag you or they hurt you on purpose or accidentally,
you give them a receipt, which is usually like a stiff punch, stiff kick,
nothing to knock them out, nothing to ruin the performance,
but something to let them know, I got you back on that one.
And you usually let them know in the ring.
It's like, that was your receipt.
So that way it doesn't turn into a full-fledged fight.
So there is communication there.
And if they disagree on whether or not the receipt was justifiable, then they fight in the back.
They don't continue to fight in the ring.
So that is a known term.
There were two people in that live stream that told Raja to go get his receipt.
The first one was the promoter.
And that's where that's super sketchy because in that night, that's that's Stu's boss.
He's paying Stu.
So he basically gave the go ahead to this guy to go hurt his night employee.
And then the other one is another wrestler later on in the live stream that says,
go in there, get your receipt.
And now people are calling out that wrestler, like, why would you do that?
And now he is hiding under the veil of like, I was just in character.
That wasn't me.
That was the mighty Hannah Cowboy Man.
But that if you're in character, you wouldn't use insider lingo because that means that not all of your punches are real.
and if you're in character, all of your punches are real.
So using the term receipt is basically admitting that wrestling and all of the punches
and all the stuff that happens isn't real.
Ergo, you are not in character.
Yeah.
So receipt as a term is an incitement of an actual.
Yeah, it is purely insider.
It is not something that is used in a storyline like, oh, let me tell you something,
brother, it's time for your receipt.
That's not used at all.
That is purely insider terminology.
And he was talking to a violent person
who's borderline mentally disabled with
coded language. Yeah, borderline. Never
a great idea. And didn't he
get like roundhouse kick
like three days prior and got a nasty
concussion? I did hear he was
concussed. I saw the kick. It wasn't
he took a kick from a lighter guy.
He did get kick in the head. I mean
it didn't knock him down.
I mean, maybe he was concussed. It didn't
knock him down. If that's the, if that's the
concussion they're talking about him having that week.
They throw that out there like,
getting a concussion earlier in the week makes you like oh yeah I'm just anything could
happen I'm not me anymore I said no dude no no yeah no how it works it's not like oh
that that you know defensive back got concussed three weeks ago that's why he tried to
twist Tom Brady's head off it's like no that doesn't happen like no one's doing that
yeah it's very the problem he's got some sort of like Royd rage situation going on like
like like the way he looked after the the attempted murder and the
way he's just wide eye and oh my goodness i was like scared he was going to have a heart attack on
stream yeah scared or hopeful
well he was served first and then he was very armed up but yeah he was very amped up
yeah it's pretty clear that something legally is going to happen with knox pro um because even
wwe so knox pro is like a big academy they are like one of the feeder systems to future
WWE talents. It's like run by like the Samoan dynasty. So like family members of the rock and
Roman reigns if that name means anything to you. W.W.E had an affiliation with them.
That was a quote, W.W.E. ID school. The second this happened, WW is like, we're done,
severing ties. We're done. So a big financial vein for Knox Pro is completely gone. And I'm sure
WVC is the writing on the wall that like something is going to happen with this school or this academy
legally in some way, shape, or form.
They're liable, at the very least for what happened to stew from a civil point of
view by putting him in that situation or making that situation possible, like a workplace
issue, right?
And then there's the literal attempted murder from Raja that's, I think, going to be
obviously separate.
Yeah.
What's their defense going to be?
Like, is there literally defense from the organization other than like, there was no way
I could know this guy was going to tart out in there?
They shouldn't say anything. They shouldn't say anything. Their lawyer is going to be telling them organization from top to bottom. Don't say a word. Don't say anything until we know what the charges are and we get into court. They're not going to say anything. One of the guys who told him to get his receipts said he's fired and he's lost his job and that stuff. Do you know which one? Everyone looks the same to me. Who was that that happened to?
So that his, I can't remember his first name. His last name is Hannah. He's a cowboy. That's his gimmick. He was the wrestler guy.
that was the wrestler that was the wrestler the promoter is a big Samoan guy so he's part of that family he ain't going anywhere um but the wrestler he went on a pretty like angry rant on on social media about how um yeah like his life is ruined and all of this stuff um i think psychostews is worse if you personally ask me uh they did show that the photo of him in the hospital looks way better than i thought he was going to did you guys see the photo the beard i feel like yeah
him a lot of you think what it is that's what it is the beard makes it makes it look not as bad
i bet if he smiled you'd feel different i bet he i bet he looks gummy as fuck beard shrouds at a good bit
it does if you if you knock a bunch of your teeth knocked out you're laying in the hospital bed
beard's going to make yeah i linked his go fund me here they so far they're at 184000 uh raised
so good for them that'll help him with some of those hospital bills yeah i'm not going to donate
but I'm doing my part by saying
to go donate.
I just did that.
You can't co-opt my...
I opt both of you
and I've offered my thoughts and prayers.
You didn't even know there wasn't go-fund me.
Oh, you keep your thoughts and your prayers.
No, it's too late.
I've offered them already.
I already gave mine out this week.
Zach physically pull up the page
so we can see, see, I'm the cause of this.
Oh, there's more plates more days.
Yeah.
Oh, we got old Derek.
Chris Jericho gave...
Oh, that's real money.
It's small on my screen.
I thought he gave like $5.
Dude, that would be the funniest shit ever.
Like, if I were Warren Buffett, I'd be like, remember to help just like people's go fundies for like kidney disease.
And I'm leaving like $7.
That is seven times more than my idea.
That would be funny.
It's like I'm paying for, I'm paying an exposure.
I'm donating an exposure.
I don't get a dog charities.
Do you guys think of?
at all. Never. If you are the lawyer of Raja, what angle do you even take here?
You probably try, I don't know, maybe you try to like prove that he's so dumb, he can't be
held accountable for his actions. They like have him read like that, you know, caterpillar
eating his way out of an apple book and he can't in front of the jury. And they should be
trying to, they should be trying to settle this civilly out of court and, uh, and hope that they
get stew to help them in their their defense is what they should be buying stew off that's the
i like the civil idea if i was his attorney i think i'd try to prove that it murder wasn't the goal
right like assault was the goal and plead to that to where he could have some i don't know 60 days
in jail or something like that because it's it's it's kind of be more than that listen if raja
was aspiring to kill him i'm not sure punches would be his method of doing it this is an
M. M. A fighter, right? He could have broken bones. He could have worked a choke, something like that. If murder was the goal, you don't do it with punches to the cheek. You ask me what I do as an attorney.
I think it's pretty clear. It's, yeah, he was trying to kill him. So like, I, not that I just don't know if I don't think that would resonate well defensively, because you can see him like in fury. And it also doesn't help that there are like, he didn't stop. There are like comedy writing style.
lead-ups to it, where if the attorney was like, Your Honor, he clearly did not intend to murder him.
Why else did he use his fist as a professional fighter and not some, a series of a Rube Goldberg
machine where an anvil was serendipus and dropped on his head from the rapist.
Like, no, they're going to be like, okay, that's interesting.
Here's a video of him four minutes earlier on kick.
And he's like, yeah, I will kill him.
I will kill him.
Did he say that?
That's not true.
I did hear him say my dad won't call me a bitch anymore.
Well, that's a different issue.
That's daddy issue.
Rampage's parenting has suffered a reputational blow.
Are you familiar with their gimmick, if you can call it that,
like how awful they are to one another on stream?
A little bit.
I've seen like some clips of it, but I'm not like a long time fan.
Yeah, okay.
So they're incredibly mean to one another on stream, whether it's a gimmick or it's just bad parenting.
Yes, yes.
They assault one another frequently on stream and like beat each other up and like take each other down and slap each other in the nuts and kick each other.
He kicked his son out of a party a while back because the son was hitting on the girl.
He was trying to fuck.
Like they have weird dynamics.
He's always like, like Raj's a vegan and they'll be eating.
He's like, you ain't never going to be a professor.
fighter eating like a vegan fucking pussy.
Ain't no blood of mine. I'm going to get another
DNA test. You can't be my son.
Look at them big old fucking ears.
You some milkman's son.
He's shit, weak-ass blood.
You ain't my blood.
It's fucking like shitting on him as mean as you can be.
That seems hilarious.
I enjoyed their content as of last week.
I watch a good bit of it. It's fun.
I get recommended it all the time.
They're mean as shit.
And you know, I like MMA.
And, uh, and I didn't.
know the kid was 25. I didn't know. I thought he was 18, 19 and like really like just cutting
his teeth into MMA. I didn't know he's a grown ass man who can rent a car. Yeah. Half the
the Rampage Jackson clips that I see from his live stream is more often than not some women
being, honey, can Rampage Jackson pick me up? And of course, Rampage Jackson is right there and the
husband half the size like, sure, babe, I guess. Rampage Jackson can pick you up. Half the
time is just him trying to cuck other men on his live stream from what i've seen wait is this like out
and about at fights they're not like sitting in no they don't fight anymore no no no they say they do
i rl streaming so they'll they'll go everywhere i've literally sat down and watched rampage jackson
eat at chick filet like that's what he does he just goes around documenting his life
it's entertaining quentin jackson's uh streams are great raja jackson's less so i i feel like his
his viewership are those people that
when Rampage isn't on they just go watch Raja
probably yeah
he would definitely be a much smaller draw
he's not going to be anything in the MMA world right
like he at 25 he would have been by now right
yeah he's like 0-1-1 in his professional career
if you can call it looked more promising anyway like when did Israel
out of sign you get in the UFC 29 he was a pro kickbox
before that though he was cutting his teeth on like like
Right, he showed promise, but, you know, I'm saying he joined the UFC in his 30s, I think.
Yeah, yeah, but he was like a pro kickbox, like a world champion kickbox or somewhere else.
Raja is an attempted murderer somewhere else.
You know what I mean?
Like, he doesn't have any accomplishments at 25.
That's got to be really difficult to be like the sibling or child of a professional athlete with those expectations on you,
and then just to not have what it takes.
You should be able to post in life.
only the parents a piece of shit
like you could be that other
Manning brother and just be a happy accountant
I bet they don't give him shit
I bet they don't go in the backyard and throw the ball around
like don't throw it to Tommy he never
he could never cut it anyway
I'm just like playing keep away with the ball
and they're all 45
wait wasn't there a bit on the Simpsons of the Manning
brothers then broasting the one Manning
brother that didn't play at the NFL
sure it's a Simpson's bit
but it seems like rampage
is like all day every day
like that ain't my son
You know, one of Rampage's sons is an albino.
He's blonde hair and blue eyes, but he's black, if that makes sense.
And he's like, what?
I don't know if you can wrap my head around this.
Well, it's a little bit hard because, like, his features are African America very much, but he's blonde hair and blue eyes.
If he doesn't have the red albino eyes.
That's pygmies.
No, pygmies are the little ones.
Oh, yeah.
What are those little rats that have the pink eyes?
That's a different form of little one.
You're thinking of a coppice.
Yeah.
It reminds me of like, like, Rajah Jackson reminds me of like the,
the Wayne Gretzky's brother record where it's like Wayne Gretzky and his brother,
Brent, have the most points combined by biological brothers.
And there's like families of six, seven, eight guys who have played in the NHL that are less.
And it's like, Wayne Gretzky's total was 2,857 points.
And Brent Gretzky had four.
he could have not played and it would still be a record i forget who said it but
this guy is like oh tuesday right that's the day that michael jordan and i combined for 70
points and michael jordan had 68 that day that's funny taylor i think i would have a
great life if my father was a professional athlete i don't think that well to be fair my dad
isn't Rampage Jackson call me a baby bag bitch because I'm not like him.
I would imagine that most healthy relationships between father, son, mother, daughter,
you know, pro athlete, regular kid are going to be conducive of a regular nepotism-filled
life of just getting everything that you want.
I think I'd be okay.
Yeah.
I mean, that would be fine.
And it would be even better if you could somehow outperform the professional athlete
parent like I'll admit I do that like in the NHL when they were like oh now Matthew
Kachuk is joining the NHL he's getting a crack because his dad is Keith Kachuk and then you
watch like two games of Matthew and it's like no it doesn't matter what this guy's last name is
he's an NHL player like I think the trick there is to play a different sport because Michael Jordan's
son will always be considered a failed basketball player we have a perfect example going on
right now, Brony James and LeBron James.
Brony is never going to hit the heights of LeBron James.
I feel genuinely bad for him because he was a good enough player to maybe eventually
get to the NBA had he played four years, but they drafted him after one year in college
and he shouldn't have even been drafted in the first place.
But had he gone to play, I don't know, Olympic volleyball, oh, that's sick.
LeBron James' kid is winning gold in Olympic volleyball.
That's good idea.
That seems like the place he could actually cut it.
where just amazing genetics and an infinite money pipeline of trainers and camps could get you
to compete at that level.
Yeah, that's what he should have done.
Speaking of the, we were talking about the bad Manning brother, his name's Cooper.
That's Arch Manning's dad, the quarterback for Texas, the number one school in the country.
Skip the generation.
Skip the generation for him.
I hope something bad happens to him this year.
Every single person, every Thanksgiving.
It's like, how's work?
It's like, well, we've got the Colts next weekend.
It's like, what's up with you, fucking Cooper?
And he's like, well, Q3 wrapping up.
Got a lot of work and coming down the bike.
Yeah, that would be.
Sol three houses, Jack.
That's good.
Thanks for the last name.
Is there a non, like, big four, like super major sport that you'd want to be good at?
you know we mentioned volleyball is there like fencing or darts what is the big four the big four being
like american football i'll throw soccer in there hockey basketball that was the one i was hoping you
forgot no that counts that counts that calisian the world get out of here this well not here
but i thought his big four was going to be like hockey basketball football and how about this
the sports where you can make real money are out of the out of the conversation is there a sport where
you'd want to be good at, even if it's just to show off to friends at a bar.
I think volleyball.
I think volleyball is the move because then maybe you get to be on the same, like,
circle as the women's volleyball players.
And, uh, and I want to hang out with them.
I want to hang out with them.
It's not a sport, but my answer is chess.
Great answer.
You're good at chess.
People think you're a genius, a virtuoso, right?
Like, oh, he's a chess grandmaster.
He probably could have done any.
investing, quadratic equations.
I don't know.
He's good at this chess game.
Therefore, he's a genius at everything.
I like the perks that come along with being good at that game.
That's a great answer.
And I don't remember if it was Magnus Carlson or some other, like, Finnish or Norwegian chess pro interview I saw.
A crazy amount of those guys are like Norway, Finland, Sweden.
Those guys love chess.
Russia.
And, yeah, Russia, too.
They're big into chess.
And there was some interviewer asking him, like, so like,
do you find people often think you're like a genius and everything just because you're excellent
at chess and he's like yes i am very good at chess but you know what i find is it's more fun
making people believe i am genius because really i'm just really good at chess
they're like how do you know this how do you know that he's like it's study and equations
and memorization and knowing the correct order and what the likelihoods of different openings
or more than that games are i've seen and this guy was a magnus karl
Wilson play. So they put the board
on and he turns around and faces
away from the board and they play that way.
He never looks at the board.
They audibly tell him where they move the pieces
and he audibly immediately tells them what moves
to make. For him.
There's a piece you left out.
There's a piece you left out. That clip
you're talking about, he's playing 15
different people. He's got
15 boards in his head.
Not just the one. It's crazy.
And it's not 15 means.
it's people that know how to play chess.
Like I only know the basic rules.
Like I don't know opening.
People who never refer to it as the horsey.
No.
What's this fucking butt plug?
A bishop.
That's what I knew.
I was good at one of those weird sports in high school.
I picked up badminton because there was a hot girl that I wanted to talk to.
Yeah, badminton's a lot of fun.
But I wasn't like naturally good at racket sports.
I was just a very athletic guy
that came from like all of the real sports
that decided to play badminton
because the cute girl was there
and I accidentally like carried
a badminton career for like four years
to like three appearances at state finals
but would be our states.
Yeah, yeah.
I lost like two years in a row
to this Japanese kid named Yuzo Watanabe
who didn't have a backhand.
He would just fucking switch hands.
So you didn't know what to fucking do.
You want to throw like to people's backhand.
hands and Yuzo's like, ah, just switch hands and stand in the middle.
Fucking Yuzo.
I love the amount of effort in the badminton swings versus the speed of the projectile
because it's like they're crushing it, but then just the design of it, it can't go that
fast.
18 feet later, it's going straight down.
Yeah.
I remember my grandpa had a badminton set up in his outdoor shed and like none of me or
my cousins and we are kids understood that game.
and we just it's less user friend or less beginner friendly even than like tennis because
you know how if they're like teaching somebody to play tennis a little bit you're just rallying
you're trying to teach them the way to hit it and so like if the ball bounces twice on their
side before they get a chance to smack it you don't go actually that would be my point you just
you just let them hit it back to get used to it badminton you don't have that there's no bounce
like you you beef it and it's like you have to restart the whole rally so we'd
we had very short sprees of playing that
tennis has a double-edged sword
when picking it up though because like with badminton
you can just wail it and it's it'll go
not that far just enough to stay in court
but tennis if you wail it because you're a newb
this shit will go to the other side of your town
it will disappear it is
and it's humiliating when you're playing tennis
and there's like 20 feet high fences
around and you hit it out
it's like now I have
to like go to the gate and then walk 60 yards around the pen and walk down the little hill at
the park grab the ball come back embarrassing that's why pickleball is the move man pickleball is
like tennis but if you want it easy as fuck you don't have to run a class than tennis tell me is it
uh no i don't think so like it's uh there's a club near my house that uh a buddy of mine is really
into pickleball wants to go and so like i go with him semi regularly uh something i didn't like
is we went to this pickleball club and it was me and my girlfriend and then my buddy and his wife and we were going for like open play and I was like oh it's going to be like the four of us playing and you know they're both very experienced I have played probably six times ever and my girlfriend really very little experience no experience in racket sports and then we get there and my buddy's like well the way it happens is you put all your you put your paddles in this like bucket and then
If you, then, like, the, you know, administrator takes four paddles out and sends you to a court.
And then if you lose, you come back and put your paddles in the challenger bucket.
And if you win, you come back and put them in, like, the winner bucket.
And then they, like, reorganized based on that.
And it was like, okay, well, this is like a little annoying.
I didn't want to play with a bunch of random people.
I wanted to kind of play with my friends.
And the first couple that my girlfriend and I got matched up with, this is probably three, four weekends ago, was this Asian lady.
and this Asian guy, Asian couple,
probably like late 40s, early 50s.
And immediately it becomes clear.
This is like their thing.
They're like hitting it like well, like smoking it.
Like my girlfriend has no idea how to return to serve.
And this fucking cunt Asian lady is like acing her over and over.
And I just, I want to be like, is that what you wanted to do today?
Like ruin someone's attempt at like picking up a hobby?
You fucking bitch?
Really?
Like you're going to like,
You weren't going to take it to a racist place?
I would have been like, oh, you, what you do here?
Pretend like that's your real accent.
Like, I know what you, I know which, I'll see you at your car.
And I know which one it is.
It's with the fucking ruined hub caps and the dents.
I was, I was like furious at one point, but trying to remain composed.
Because it was like, like, they knew she was brand new.
And they were like, instead of being amicable and curtail.
and like teaching someone in the hobby they were like teeing off on her like if me and the
Asian guy were having a good rally and then I hit it to the Asian girl she didn't like
continue the rally with me she spiked it at my girlfriend and then she misses it and we lose the
point we go we got blown out and I was not enthused no that's no that's no fun you need
when you're when you clearly see people that are new into the hobby you got a you want to make
sure that they that they come back I had a guy this was maybe like six years of
ago. I was in a squash tournament.
And it's hard. It's hard. Greatest work you'll ever get. That's what every squash player
fucking says. It's a tournament and half of the people are like 70. That's just what
squash players typically look like. There might be the random like person people in like their
early 30s like me, like a young guy getting into it in 19. It's just a regular tournament
of regular people. And then some fucking douchebag comes in and signs up for the tournament. He
came third at the Pan American
games. Fuck you.
What are you doing here? This
is a beer league where
fucking Roger over
a year had a heart attack two
years ago and Marcus
there only has one functioning
knee. That's why Robert's name
is on the bitch.
I disagree entirely.
It sucks to suck, get good.
I'm sitting here wondering how I
can find an over 70 squash
tournament.
I was like the sucks to suck because like when I go into like sporting events I always have in my head like Taylor you're not like a hyper competitive guy in sports you're just a you know you're just being chill and then like I go down by a couple points and I'm like to my girlfriend being like you know if you could just if you could just get to the side of the ball when you're trying to hit it because when you stand directly behind it and you go like this you're not going to get you're not going to get a purchase you're not going to get an angle and we keep losing these fucking points.
I'm like trying to hold it and she's afterwards
she's like Taylor you're just giving me a lot of
correction throughout the game and I'm like
I know but I'm half as much as you needed
yeah but I it's just always
like John McEnroe out there
dude it's like a full like self-identity destroying thing
every time we're like I'm playing any game
and someone fucks up and I go from like patient
thinking I'm like Mr. Chill Mr. Cool guy
to be an agitated so rapidly.
I love that Taylor's girlfriend
is still in the, I enjoy
the same things you do lie,
phase of the relationship.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, the blues,
huge fan.
Huge fan over here.
She hasn't even done.
She's a card.
Her family is like a Cardinals family.
I have to like explain.
What is what actually likes Eldon Ring,
Taylor?
Did you know that?
She loves it.
She loves it.
Dude, when I come back
she's watching it on YouTube
by herself
you got a good set up
Eldon Ring wife pretzel wife
I just
got my basically wife
not officially married I just got her into
Pokemon collecting with me
because I've been
by the way a horrible idea
I am deeply thousands of dollars
into this hobby
but she's like
I want to go to these card shows
and help you look for the things that you're
looking for. Ultimately
we came down on like, hey, I want you to get in on this too.
Why don't you pick a Pokemon that you really like or you think is really cute, really
adorable, and we'll start collecting those cards.
She picks a Pokemon from, if this term means anything, Gen 1, so 1996, the original 151
named Ditto.
I was like, oh, that's an adorable Pokemon.
It's like this blob.
It literally is just a piece of gum.
And it's one of like the most expensive ones to collect for.
I am seeing cards that are like $900 plus and it is a daunting task to tell her that we cannot complete this collection because I finally got her into something that I'm interested in even if she's faking it I don't want to ruin this.
Have her play Pokemon any Gen 1 Pokemon game and get a Ditto and start using it and she will immediately be off the Ditto train.
It was like the coolest.
So like for Woody and Kyle, Ditto was a Pokemon whose entire.
shtick, it only knows one move called transform, and it's just a pink blob.
And no matter what Pokemon, it's fighting, it transforms into that exact Pokemon with its
exact moves, which sounds like it could be fun, but it's not, because all it means is that
you always hit second.
And your opponent knows exactly what your type is and what they can do to fuck it up.
And so, like, it's a really neat concept, but it doesn't actually work well.
So yeah, have her played the Pokemon game.
She'll try ditto out, be like, this Pokemon sucks ass.
And then you'll, like, find, I don't know, what's another one that girl likes, Pikachu.
No, that's worse.
That's worse.
There's like, oh, my God, Pikachu, there are, there is a Pikachu card that is like $5 million.
That's the one that Logan Paul wears to events and stuff.
It's called, yeah, it's called an illustrator Pikachu.
And I can't, I don't have the heart to tell my girlfriend, babe, I can't afford the Logan Paul $5 million Pikachu.
But aren't you big enough
with the WWE yet someday?
Maybe we can get a ditto if Raja
hit someone else.
It's been great for my career.
That Raja
money. Yeah, Pokemon,
it makes me so sad
that you missed it by such a small
window, Kyle. If you were just a couple
years younger, you would have been
all in. I really wouldn't have.
There would be like, no,
No, I saw some cards at school once.
Mostly, yeah.
I saw a Pokemon card at school one time.
Like a kid had some sitting behind me.
Maybe it was sixth grade.
What, sixth grade?
I think it was eighth grade.
I think in eighth grade, the kid behind me in home room had some Pokemon cards.
And I was like, what the fuck is that?
Because we play poker at my house.
Like I knew how to play poker.
And I was just like, what the fuck do you have there?
What is it?
I remember it was all shiny and like holographic and him trying to explain it to me
and just thinking like, well, we're not going to be the gayest kid in this class.
We found the bottom.
Won't be friends with that guy.
The cards, you're right.
I was meaning more of the games, like the Game Boy games.
I don't know if you were on a Game Boy much.
They didn't buy me games.
Yeah, my parents wouldn't buy me games for them.
I had Mario and I had Tetris.
Once you got the console and it came like a game or two,
there was never getting another game.
Like that didn't really happen at my house.
You're like, yeah, you got the, you got the Mario.
You got that one and then you got the Sonic.
What more do you need?
Did you have, Santi, I know you were a Pokemon guy in the 90s.
Yeah.
Did you have N64 Pokemon Stadium?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that was a cultural game.
in this household.
Oh yeah.
It was like I remember the excitement of it being like Friday after school in like fourth or fifth
grade and it's like I've got Tim and Alex and Brendan and Travis and I've got all my
buddies coming over and we're going to do a Pokemon Stadium tournament and we're going to do
this and that and it was well first we'll go home and then probably shoot each other with
airsoft guns in the woods or I guess fourth fifth grade that was paintball time.
I didn't know Airsoft was a thing yet.
We'll do that for a while, build it,
and then we'll just spend all night eating pizza,
drinking soda pop and playing Pokemon Stadium.
I don't,
those might be some of my best gaming memories ever is.
Yeah, man.
And 64 sleepovers with like Golden Eye.
Oh my God, so good.
Kyle, I am really curious,
because it sounds like when you were younger,
gaming wasn't like a super hyper-focused thing
that you were into as a kid.
It sounds like you were a pretty outdoorsy kid.
I'm really curious how,
It went from that to
Call of Duty. I'm
kind of curious how that kind of like
jump into the 360 and getting really
into Cod. I got my own income.
See, when Taylor was talking about Pokemon,
I didn't know Pokemon existed. I don't know how he did.
I didn't know that those games existed.
I don't know how he had it. I didn't know the
Nintendo 64 existed until I was
like in high school or something.
I went to somebody's house that had one. I was like, oh,
interesting. Never knew that was a thing.
Like I didn't know those.
People didn't talk about it at school?
No.
well not to me
not to me
I mean amongst their friends I'm sure they
and they don't mention it to me
no no
but then once I had like income
I was like
I spent my money on the thing
on the frivolous things that I'd always wanted
like paintball and video games
well you missed out
Pokemon Gen 1 was the shit
and then I see the new
now I go boomer
mode when I see new Pokemon
where it's like they've won out of ideas
there's one of them that's just an ice cream
cone that evolves into larger
ice cream cones
that's a Pokemon now
that's not my Pokemon
no not my Pokemon
none of this shit is my
Pokemon
I got an idea how about one we call
copy and he just mimics the lies
moves from a second ago
that could be a thing
but one of the
one of my favorite
laugh straightened that whole trivia bit
we were doing for a while is I asked
some like Pokemon related question
and Woody like made up his own
Pokemon names as the answer
and it was I don't remember what it was
it killed me
where I was like and Woody answered
Scragles
that is not a Pokemon but it's
enough to
it's pretty good
oh that was so fucking funny
You're taking a shot in the dark.
That's kind of like Beaconchew.
Yeah.
The world really does open up when you get your own income.
I'm thinking to what Kyle said,
because the hoops that I had to jump through
to get anything that I wanted before the age of like 17
when I got my own job were insane.
I remember to get a PS3,
which if you remember back in like 2006,
were obscenely expensive.
I had to make like a deal with my dad that I would work cleaning banks with him for eight straight months.
I think I talked about my dad in a brief.
They're like three and a few dollars.
Okay.
So that's the thing.
I worked with him for like eight months.
I got my PS3.
And then like seven years later, I did the math.
I was like, dad, minimum wage, that was like $7,000.
That was child slavery.
It was like, you didn't fucking negotiate.
there was a lesson
you got what you wanted
so it's a fair deal
yeah I remember like just going and buying
an Xbox and a PlayStation
and like a capture card and like
eight games and like a new paintball
gun and a nitrogen tank
and be like just went and bought all the things
that I had always wanted once I had
monies I've never done that
it was real nice
a nitrous
tank.
Nitrogen for the paintball, like,
because like white trash shoot CO2,
but the cool kids had the nitrogen tanks
because you had to go,
you can't get those filled at the little rinky dink fields
that I always shot at in the country.
A CO2 tank is cheap,
like the big one that used to refill the smaller ones.
They're cheap.
You can rent them at an air gas place,
but nitrogen thing is a whole other setup
that you couldn't get.
But as soon as I had money, I was like,
yeah, I'm going to need
$2,000 for the paintball gear
since I don't play at all
And I remember I got a nitrogen tank too
For my paintball gun in high school
And I liked that unlike all the CO2 tanks
The nitrogen tanks were like aesthetic
And were like rounded off at the end
And they even had these little like pockets
That were grippy
You could like slide over the whole thing like a sock
But it was like I think the brand was dye
DY does that sound right? Yeah
and that was cool.
I don't know why nitrous was so desirous.
Like, everyone wanted a nitrous tank.
Because the CO2 gets cold and it's inconsistent with its like pop per shot.
But the nitrogen just, it's not cold.
It doesn't freeze everything up.
And it was super consistent.
And I don't think, I don't know if you had more shots.
Obviously, the nitrogen tank would be like 68 cubic inches and it'd be like 4,500 PSI.
whereas a CO2 tank
converting to standard
but it'd be like 20 ounces
and like 800 PSI
because it's just a chunk of steel
it's just a steel tank
but that nitrogen tank is
carbon fiber wrapped steel I think
it's you know and it looked cooler
it's smoother it's slicker
yeah the cool kids always had those
I did not so as soon as I had money
it was PlayStation's and nitrogen tanks
when we how old were you
fucking
19 or 20 something like that okay something like that um like as soon as i started making money
selling cars uh because like again growing up like i could get ATVs like if i would get a new ATV ever
three or four years and i'd get like a side by side and um had multiple cars and guns and scopes
and am you all the ammunition i wanted but that was stuff my dad understood and stuff my dad was
into so like i could get that if i'd wanted a nice baseball bat i could have had one i never really
cared enough to get like some $500 bat or anything.
Were they expensive when you were young?
Baseball ball?
I know they're expensive now.
Yeah.
I mean, there's grades to everything, right?
Like, there'd be a big pile of aluminum bats that the coach would show up with in a
bat and a bag that'd be all chipped up.
But I wanted my own bat when I went to go play.
Like, this is my bat and I wouldn't let the other kids use it except for my buddies.
Like, all right, Dave, you can use it.
Mark, you can use it too.
Nobody else touches my Easton, though.
Better with it?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's a better bat.
Like, there's more pop to it.
You hit the ball farther.
It's lighter.
It would make a better noise when the kids with expensive bats hit it.
And, like, I cared about having it scratched up.
So, like, when I would get a hit, I would toss it over to the grass, not toss it into the, like, the gritty gravel because it scrapes up the finish on it, which is like, I don't know, just a kid.
Maybe that's not something that an adult would even give a shit about.
But I did because it was by, like, $200 baseball bat.
I don't want to throw it in the gravel.
So some piece of shit would borrow it.
Jordan Wansley throwing my bat in the gravel.
Now I'm sitting now between innings.
I'm holding my bat like nobody's like I see how it is Jordan's a real son of my shit oh fuck
Jordan this is the worst sweatiest kid you ever met sweaty's kid you ever met you're beating off
of him like dude it's 75 out here what's wrong with you he looked like a michael jordan gatorate
commercial and we weren't even doing anything that was yeah that was me as a kid and it was awful
I remember I'm riding my bike home and the bully like pulls up next to me he's like look at
your upper lip your upper lip your upper lip is
sweating. I'm like, gross, you're disgusting.
Look at your upper lip.
You're sweat on it.
That's, you know, how to stop.
What is the most pedantic form of bullying?
Look at him.
He's moist.
I'm 12.
It is hurting.
They said much mean or shit to me.
I wish they'd made fun of my sweaty upper lip.
This guy wasn't even, he didn't even say mean, mean things.
He just heard, he'd be like, hi, my name's Matt Woodberg.
I don't talk like
why are you
what are we doing here
for the last time
I'm not German
what's the job
clearly in
every fucking day
it's this physical stuff
as a kid that you can't control
that hurts the most
so I had facial hair
before most kids
and like whatever
Oh the horror that must have been
I know
No listen at in grade five
it's fucking weird
grade seven and eight it's cool
but like grade five
I'm the fucking weirdo with a mustache
so everybody's calling me
and I think that was the height of like
vote for Pedro so that was a fucking nightmare
having to deal with Napoleon dynamite
fucking getting called Pedro all the time
yeah yeah I bet
that is an unsung difficulty
is everybody who couldn't grow facial hair
late until late always thinks
it was easy early on
but I remember specifically
getting like paranoid and being
like bullied for
having facial hair in middle school.
How tough it must have been to be bigger
and stronger than everyone else
in school. We just didn't know we were better.
You know what nobody made fun of?
The chicks that got tits early.
What was the early? Do you remember the first
girl that got tits near school in what year it was?
Because I remember Lindsay Curran's
had knockers.
A big touchdown out to Lindsay.
I,
knockers in fifth grade. It was like, oh my
fucking God.
Like, I'm not talking about like.
wasn't enough to even care at that point?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I remember in fifth grade.
I remember in fifth grade being like,
I really wanted to grab my teacher's crotch.
Like, that was something that was in my head.
I'm like, I wonder how much trouble I would get if I just grab that pussy.
Probably a lot.
I swear to God, I remember having it.
And she was like, call it 28, something like that.
And she was in the process of getting married.
And I was jealous of her husband.
I was jealous of her husband.
he would come in to tell to he was like a he was something he either had a big interest in the civil war
or maybe he was also a teacher or a professor or something and he and he taught it somewhere else
but he came in one day to like verse us in the civil war on a on a on a higher level than she was
capable of I guess and I was just like piece of shit he's a come back I bet he grabs her pussy all the time
I was so jealous I think girls hitting puberty early is rougher than boys I
I remember this girl
hit puberty early in my school
and everyone regarded her as fat
because she had like fat on her ass,
fat on her hip,
she had big boot.
She had the body of like Margo Robbie.
And everyone just,
but compared to all the girls
with the bodies of little boys,
she did have more fat.
Yeah,
they tagging for badness.
No,
that's,
I mean,
Lindsay wasn't skinny,
but I'm telling you,
these things were huge.
Like my adult standards,
I'm not saying that she,
oh, look at her.
She's got a B cup.
What a fucking freak of
nature. She had big tities. She was 10. It's got to be the dairy. It's got to be the dairy or
the hormones and the chicken. I don't know what we're feeding our kids these days, but these little
girls, I mean, we can all understand what the press is plastic. Yeah, we had Trump, right? I can see
I'm not going to be going to. I'm not going to finish that sentence. Sometimes you see a river and
you decide to just not float down that one. And that's, but no, this girl, she was 12 and I think she could
got served alcohol or something like she just had a woman's body that's crazy and then i remember
like uh had to be like eighth grade and and jared had hairy man legs like hairier than mine are
like dark hairy like a thicket of and i remember sitting that it was summer so we all had shorts on
and like looking from his leg to my leg and back again and being like this shit don't add up
this can't there's something wrong about and he already had a goatee like like like
Like, he already had a goatee.
And by the time we hit full, full in high school, he had your beard.
He had your beard trimmed short, though.
And it was like, what the fuck is this shit?
Like, I didn't even have a Pedro mustache.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'd like knock that thing down with my dad's razor every three days.
That was part of early puberty I did like is I also noticed as someone with Santi,
I'm sure same boat, someone who got man legs early, like man leg hair early, like being in gym
and being like, all right, at least I'm like in this race of puberty
significantly ahead of most of the class in the leg game.
Behold.
You should see them when they get wet.
It's crazy.
I remember like from like,
I would like twirl them.
Dude, I would like twirl them.
I remember like when they were coming in.
I was like this is fucking cool that I got.
Yeah.
But I feel like it was like this like burst of.
testosterone from like grade five to grade nine that made me this like super mega athlete and then
everyone caught up after that but man i i remember those days that you know what do you said oh poor
you this was one of the cool things about having a beard and and and being looking like a 37 year old
dominican baseball player by age 12 i was good at sports purely because my motor functions had
evolved to that of an adult earlier purely because of that yeah i grew up at the beach
I'm six, too, Kyle.
Okay.
Like, I spent more time at the beach than most people, and we'd put sun tan lotion on in the summertime.
All the guys had this particular look of like sort of the white not going away instantly
because they have these big hairy legs and it doesn't absorb into the hair in the same way.
But me and the girls had a very different look of like what it was like to apply suntan lotion to my hairless body.
And it was like, mother.
my hairless bunny yeah and and i envied the leg hair but even more so the armpit hair it was like
like i i just vibed feminine ideas with my hairless armpits while all the boys had like tuffs growing
in they do one of these things and it's like fuck you oh you know what was worse about santi i know
you know hitting it early is like fifth sixth seventh grade
having like very regular voice cracks like trying to respond in class or like talk to a girl or talk to a friend
where you'd just be like in the middle of like laughing at the lunch table and you'd be like and then also
do you see that mrs monk like it just like it just cracks up and you sound silly that was embarrassing
yeah i always thought like like every time that would happen in class and i answered my voice cracked
i'd be like oh oh all the girls hate you all the girls were going to remember this forever
Yeah, it's so much worse, dealing with that at 12 than say seven fucking teen, right?
That's fair.
Man, Woody keeps me winning.
I got a cold and had this sort of froggy voice.
There was like a group of people.
Woody's voice is finally changing.
Hey, everyone, check it out.
He's getting his adult voice.
I just have a cold.
It's got to go back.
No, I'm just going to stay like this now.
Man, I bring up my little problems with puberty early
and then Woody just blows you out,
much more real problems with late puberty.
Nobody who hit puberty early was a big guy, though,
like if that makes sense,
like they were just big for our age.
Like I remember Santavius,
it must have hit puberty early because he was a giant.
I remember like my mom, again, taught special ed,
so she'd be like,
I'm always getting beat up, and she's like,
Santavius, I need you to be Kyle's bodyguard.
He's like, yes, miss my, I look at the cow for you.
It's like, like John Coffey from the Green Mile.
No problem.
But then by the time we got to high school, I'm like, that guy's 5'8.
He hit 5'8 at like 10 and then stopped growing.
But at 10, he was a monster.
He was literally John Coffey walking down the hall, two people wide.
But again, when we hit adulthood, when we all got to high school,
and I'm like 6'2, and a lot of them,
the guys are and it's like what happened to santavius he just stopped growing not my guy chris christie
had a beard like taylor in eighth grade and he didn't like get a lot of attention or anything he
was kind of soft-spoken and uh for some reason the whole school and in where i went we did IQ
tests this motherfucker clocks in at a 137 and i'm like this you asshole like you hip puberty at birth
your IQ's 137
I don't think I can like you at all
you're difficult to be friends with
because you're better than me
and all the things
I can save some pussy for the rest of us
I remember in like
middle school early high school
and maybe it was just like a holdover
from like girls growing up
but the guys in my grade
that were like the quote unquote like cool
guys that like the ladies men they weren't the guys that hit puberty early like the big the
one i remember specifically this guy matt little squirrely guy but he was like cool and he didn't
hit puberty and he was like still like beating him off with both hands like girls constantly
and it was like at the time i guess i didn't understand like oh they like him because maybe he's
not threatening maybe like because he's like the youngest of all you know sometimes the youngest kids
are really cool because they've gotten
transitive exposure to like older
modes of like socializing
and stuff. But in my head I just always remember
thinking like oh man I'm so jealous of that
guy. He's a head shorter than me
and tiny. He wears big
even thicker glasses than me
but he's getting so much attention
from the cute girls and I can't get any
attention from them. Preaching to
the choir I hated that shit
and I didn't realize
like now as an adult I realized like
why did I want to be this for
foot nine little bitch by the way there's my my guy's also named matt mat matthew uh and he just he's
still like five foot one that little bitch did not grow up at all but i remember being so jealous
that he had all of the features that all of the girls at that age like and i i thought it was like
a hockey thing so i even tried to grow out like the helmet hair you know the what i'm talking about
but i just i just looked like i had a fucking afro i could not grow that to save my life
I should find a picture of it.
I looked terrible with it.
I had that too.
But I couldn't wrap my head around why this little bitch boy that's 50 pounds soaking wet got all the attention of the of the girls back in the day over me.
That's when I saw right through.
Not saying I got the girls attention, but there was a dude in my high school.
He was super effeminate.
He might have been gay.
I remember when he knocked it out of the park at the high school talent show singing, why must I be a team?
teenager in love like like a girl it just it was this high-pitched whatever he'd have been gay
and he was friend zoned by like every girl in the class and I'm like yeah I don't envy that
he can have that all he wants I'd rather have guy friends oh yeah did you know she that they
okay so it sounds like at the time you knew that he was friend zoned oh it okay okay it was
obvious to me anyway yeah yeah maybe in my situation
I maybe he was friend zone too but like in my eyes I was like this guy's getting all the pussy this is in fair I didn't see it that way yeah yeah I do remember a guy who got like all sorts of girl attention and he was he was just cute he was cute he was available he had game he wasn't athletic he didn't like he wasn't special other than his ability to chat up girls
and I remember my best friend, the guy I'm talking about fucked his girlfriend before he was my
best friend's girlfriend and he hated that about him.
He wanted to beat him up for something that happened before he even met his girlfriend.
It is in, you know, we're talking about the child version of all of this, but it is genuinely
impressive when you can, when you meet somebody.
And I know, like from my personal experience, an incredibly good looking man when I was
University and seeing it now as an adult in my early 20s, seeing this man being a magnet of
women at that age. Now, as I'm seeing it play out in person, that to me, it's like that's,
that's actually impressive. Now looking back at Matthew, he's a little bit. He didn't actually
get anything. But now as an adult seeing this genuinely like God of a man, it's like,
all right, but no longer am I jealous, Woody. Now I see like, good for you, dude. This is impressive.
And I, and I, I, I don't envy.
I respect more than anything now.
I think I can do both.
What's the idea, like, like, what would be your ideal body?
Like, is there a guy that you look at maybe even in the WWE?
We're like, ah, that's a 10 out of 10.
Yeah.
If you want to pull it up, Zach, there is a guy named Drew McIntyre who is a, I think it's
achievable.
There might be some, you know, a little bit of help.
there, but I'm not opposed to jumping on something to get there. But he, he isn't this like,
you know, 5% body fat. He's just like a beast burly man with some chest hair. And I'm like,
that's, that's something that I want to strive for. So you're picking a body that you could possibly
have. Yes. Yeah. I don't want to be unrealistic about it. I, I prefer unrealistic.
Yeah, that's super achievable what he's got going on there. Yeah. Yeah, you could do that.
That, to me, is like what I want to achieve.
All right.
He's got some good genetics, too.
His chest is pretty wacky.
Yeah, yeah.
He's either got a pump or he just is a god amongst men.
Yeah, he's got great genetics.
Oh, they all have pumps when they come out.
They all have a little gym bag right before they make their entrances.
But that to me, that's my ideal body type.
I'm 6.2.
Right now, I'm in a cut.
I'm 220.
That guy, he's like 260.
I think I'd want a bigger dick than that guy.
I think all the blood is elsewhere, Woody.
That's all.
All the blood went to his fucking neck.
I always keep a little in it just for show.
Who is this?
We were talking about like an ideal body type in the WWE for him
because we were talking about sort of, you know,
who you'd want to look like or what's a town of?
Yeah, Taylor, can you name someone whose body you'd want to have?
instead of your own.
Chris Hemsworth from Thor 1.
No, the mountain.
I'd want to go crazy.
Fuck out of here, you freeze it.
I may as well if I want to have to take shits in bathtubs.
Yeah, that would be a horrible thing to have to start doing.
The mountain, how old is the mountain?
I thought he was, uh, 45?
Kyle's, I thought he was young.
No, he's young.
I think he's like a 1990.
the 1990s baby
like if we're talking about
the recast of the mountain
the one that kills Prince Obrin Martel
he's a 90s baby I'm pretty sure
I think he'll be dead in 20
years
dude do you know how gigantic you have to be
to look like that and still have like bicep veins
that's crazy
have you guys see his wife
that would be awesome and I also like
yeah he's gonna tear her in half any day
he's got a respectable
trustworthy moon face
You know, this is the
I guess I get a little bit as much past 56.
Really?
Why not?
I would say a lifetime of overdoing it on the steroids
and just being ginormous.
Rick Flair is like 80 or something.
Huge people don't usually stick around as long.
Actually, there's not really tall basketball players.
He's not one of those lanky basketball players.
Like that guy, I don't know.
I guess time will tell.
We'll check back in 20 years.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
He's like breaking records for like a crazy tall guy not dying, but that could also do with the fact that he's like
Great. He's like stick skinny like just a like a slenderman body and I think he I thought he last time I saw him he was like super super skinny and that probably contributes to longevity
He walk with a cane now too maybe probably that makes of those giant guys do. Yeah
Good. You don't want somebody like that to just win their whole life. You know they need to taste a little defeat there toward the end
did you see the uh that texas uh i thought she was a missouri politician but it but it says
texas the chick who um burnt the koran with a flamethrower i'm so stick of that annoying retard
she's she's got it she's got that like i am as american as apple pie
and i'm like spray fire on the koran because that's totally fucking relevant right now yeah
actually i've never unmuted her video i don't know what she sounds like
like she's always doing this like doing outrageous stuff to to drum up attention again i thought
she was a missouri candidate she's the one who was like she like she had like a mannequin tied up and
she like executes it with a pistol and she's like that is what happens to pedophiles this is what we do
to pedophiles where i am from hello i am valentina gomez my family has lived in missouri for nine months
and I am ready to represent you.
Yeah, I thought she was, if she was also a Missouri lady, my guess is she's just kind of, you know, darts at a dart board.
All right, I'll run in in Texas.
All right, I'll run in Missouri.
I'll try it here, here, try it there.
She's pulling Hillary Clinton, just going where their seats open, maybe?
No, because Hillary Clinton is like smart and calculating.
And this lady seems.
Yeah.
What are we doing?
I told a fish was
Fisher our Muslim friend
was obviously I'm a little offended by
Seeing his holy book burnt by that crazy lady
And he posted something
He's like I bet if I just imagine what would happen if I burnt
The Talmud or the Torah like that
And I'm like dude
You couldn't burn a Seinfeld DVD
They'd come lock your ass up immediately
That's so funny
That's the direction he immediately goes
Well what if I burn the fucking Talmud
It's like, all right, fish, can you please just guess one of the words?
Please.
I lose it up there for a while.
She's from Columbia and she moved to America in 2009.
I thought she's one of me.
I assume she's a citizen, but I'm not positive.
Yeah, she's running for public office.
Yeah, she's got to be very pretty.
Do you have to be a citizen to do that?
You hope so.
That's a tremendous oversight of work.
Vladimir Putin, the new governor of Maryland.
No, I have always roved Wisconsin.
I know that there's like tears and levels.
Like you have to be obviously a citizen to, sorry, you have to be born in the United States to be president, but you, not every citizen can be president.
Yeah, the Schwarzenegger's governor of California, but he can't be president.
I looked it up.
You need to be a citizen for seven years
to run for office.
Fair?
Okay.
It seems that almost seems pretty lenient.
I like it lenient.
Let the voters pick who they want to pick.
If the best talent in the world's only been here for seven years,
you shouldn't disqualify them and look down the list.
That's my take on it.
Let the voters choose.
I would agree if like our politicians were fucking killing it.
But they're terrible.
And so like that's why we got a lot broader, more broadly, right?
Maybe there's some, maybe there's a Haitian you've overlooked Taylor.
Maybe one of those Chinese guys, maybe one of those Chinese business magnates who like somehow now owns half in Nebraska could come in and be a politician.
We could do that.
That's crazy.
Like letting, letting Chinese like is that happening oligarchs buy a bunch of land?
Yeah, that's been like criticized for a while.
I don't know.
Trump signed that executive order a while back about...
It wouldn't let us do that shit in China.
Of course not.
Well, Trump signed that thing disallowing the purchase of the land that was within X distance of military bases
because they were buying like large swaths of land near Air Force bases.
That's one of those things where like they'll say like Trump looking to make it illegal
for Chinese oligarchs and business magnates to buy up all the land surrounding the
military bases and it's like wait that was we're fixing that right now that feels like something
you see I think they're trying to fix it now because we fixed it in Canada so I think they're now
buying up as much American land as possible because that was a problem here like that started like
10 years ago where every single house every single plot of land was being bought by some Chinese
family or company with a with a shell version of itself
in Canada.
Now, have you guys noticed, like with the housing prices in the United States, have they recently
started going up since Canada started deporting Indians and preventing as much immigration as
there once was?
Because our prices are starting to plummet.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah, they're starting to plummet.
You can't, like, people are trying to sell their houses and cannot find a buyer.
That's another problem because most.
of the buyers were a lot of these foreigners, has there been the inverse effect over there now?
I don't think it's hit us fully yet, because my friends who are like looking for houses.
Inflation is outpasting anything like that, I'm sure, and keeping things either stable or the
other way around. And also the continued drama around interest rates and the Fed. And there's a lot
going on there that's sort of like boring Washington stuff. But Trump's taken over.
Trump, like, whoever, either trumps the super genius or he employs them, because it seems like he
knows where to go to it, to influence his power.
I didn't know that the Fed had governors.
I'd never heard of that position before.
I didn't know it existed.
And do you fire that lady or force that lady to resign or something like that?
Yeah, so he, he, like, can't fire her except for cause.
And apparently she had two home loans where she claimed they were both her primary
residence and he fired her for that, which is, I don't know. Who said it? You show me the person.
I'll find the crime. That was Joseph Stalin. Is it true? Is that true? Yeah. I believe I'm almost
positive at Stalin. Okay. Okay. At least I now believe you're saying that in good faith.
And I'm like, pull me into Biden. But that was my take on that. So she is going to sue or is denying
being fired? I don't know if she can do that. So Trump doesn't have the authority to fire her
just like she's not an at-will employee
it has to be for cause and now she's debating the cause
we'll see where it goes
that's very funny to deny being fired
nah uh
like just you just show up at work again
you're basically she's pulling
a stance of shit
that's the whole sidefold episode
what that stuff I was joking
yeah
I don't know what she's up to
but you know the Fed seems to be
a little boarding on corrupt so maybe maybe they need to shake up you think i'm on the other side of
it i felt like it was always independent and acted on behalf of the u.s economy not like anything else
because it would always be popular to lower interest rates if it was corrupt they'd just lower it
and raise inflation but that's why they're not lowering rates because it would raise inflation
would raise prices as you increase the money splice by the man we all get it and uh so they're like
Let's move slowly on this.
It's not, you know, like we've got two sides of it.
We're worried that the tariffs are going to slow the economy down,
and we've seen that to some extent.
And we're worried that lowering rates are going to raise prices
and just take our time before we pull a trigger.
I would like it more if they had a different name.
The Fed?
Yeah, the Fed.
That's tricky.
They're tricking us to think it's some government shit.
The Reserve.
I like that better.
They almost like Netflixify.
their logo in that or they crack
or barrel eyes and they go
down to the logo I'm imagining like
Yellowstone but you know
what I mean like like wildlife greenery
some flora and fauna
the reserve
ruining the economy since 1967
yeah that could work
because I mean Monsanto did that they had like a leaf
on their logo and meanwhile they're like
we made a special corn
that gives you AIDS if you try
and replant it
oh fuck
The farmers really don't like this new corn.
So if I get cancer, it'll be because of the roundup.
Like, I used to just, we didn't know that was bad for you.
I would be spraying that stuff with a big, the sprayer.
It'd be going all over me, like all the time.
I mean, I'd be, I mean, I'd be like, oh, got a little roundup on me, no big deal.
I mean, it's clear, right?
Can't be anything good bad in there.
If I ever get cancer, as if he hasn't had it already.
Yeah, that was that Monsanto cancer in my eye.
Patent pending.
Them and DuPont,
like just evil incarnate,
the forever chemicals and all that stuff,
but Monsanto,
the stuff they do with the corn seed,
and it's probably other types of seed, too,
where they patent their seeds,
and you have to buy that seed from it.
And the deal is that the seeds that Monsanto make,
Roundup doesn't kill them.
Roundup kills everything.
It might as well be nuclear hellfire to weeds.
but it kills regular corn too
but it doesn't kill Monsanto corn
so you're able to plant your field slap full of Monsanto corn
bathe the entire area in poison
and the corn just gets bigger and stronger
and all the other stuff dies.
So pick one. I want to do all four.
I'll vote for Nestle, although I'm mostly educated on
Isn't that just slave labor?
Isn't that the faux pa?
I thought it had something to do with them
like thinking people don't need water
unless they buy it from Nestle.
You're right. Not us people.
Who's your most evil company?
The most evil effort, it would probably have to, you just have to go to the top of the ladder and say like Black Rock, right?
The investment firm.
Yeah, because they manipulate so many other firms because they, yeah, well, that's what I'm saying is like, you can almost cheat that answer and be like, oh, well, BlackRock because the reason that this corporation does stuff that's like stupid and nonsensical is because they're a controlling shareholder and they lean on them to do things and even the C suite of this company is like, I don't know about this, but we kind of have to do what they want to do here.
And then they also buy up all our, or isn't their subsidiary, like Blackstone that's like their real estate subsection of the company and they buy up lots of houses and land, driving up the price for Americans, but, you know, planning on using it as like rental properties.
They just seem like an easy evil company in Black Rock.
Okay.
It's even got an ominous name.
Kyle, who's your most evil company, Monsanto?
You can stick with that one?
I think DuPont.
I think DuPont has this.
like decades and decades
record of creating super poisons
and contaminating water
supplies around the world and
destroying environments and also I think
some stuff that was hazardous for the
ozone layer. I don't think
Frion was one of their
inventions or one of their things
but I think
DuPont. I watched some documentary a while
back and it's like DuPont and the
man who poisoned Earth or something
like that. It was like, oh shit.
That guy's a doer.
Yeah, I mean, he didn't know it. I think he was just, he was making those miracle chemicals back then.
Just like asbestos used to be seen as like this fix-all until we realized it just caused mesothelioma and all sorts of cancers and maladies and people.
So I would go with DuPonti.
You got a evil company?
I mean, my whole life, the answer has always been Monsanto, but out of curiosity, I looked it up.
Like, what are people saying?
And I guess it depends on if you are talking about now or of all time, if you want to talk about the goats of goats.
It's the British East India Company.
They did some really fucked up shit
throughout the, what, like 400 years
that they oppressed governments and people
to just line their pocket.
That's a...
They had their own army.
They did.
It's kind of sick.
A lot of corruption there, but having your own army,
can you imagine if, like,
Lockheed Martin had their own army?
That would be...
I think a lot of those companies do.
Well, they hire NPCs.
Whenever, like, an oil company,
or water companies moving into one of these poor nations,
they'll hire private military,
not NPCs, they'll hire private military.
I was like, does that have another meaning?
PMCs is what I meant.
And those areas.
And they essentially do have their own little armies
that they can go in and they'll call it security forces
to make sure that the dig site goes through.
But they got ex-military guys
who are killing people on the ground in those poor countries.
Sometimes it's not even PMCs.
Sometimes they just hire the local guerrilla group.
All right, we need to get rid of all of the natives that are living in this land so that we can drill for the next 25 years and then exterminate all of the natives of that land.
Very evil empire.
The military contractor, if you've been confused for 30 seconds.
Like Blackwater, right?
Yeah, which is no longer a thing.
It changed its name.
And then I think the thing they changed their name to maybe got dissolved as well.
They got in a lot of trouble.
They rebranded to like a name of like a diet tea, like uplift or something.
Like the thing changed in such a weird way.
And it's like, no, come on.
If you're going to be hardcore paramilitary guys, you know, fighting for the highest bidder, have a cool name.
Blackwater is a cool name.
Those guys were hardcore.
I watched this Blackwater guy on a rooftop killing Iraqis one time from far away.
Just just sniping all day with a semi-auto.
One of my close friends' dads was.
in black that was his job when we were in high school it was like what does your dad do and he's like
oh well my stepdad does whatever but my real dad uh he's been in black rock for like 18 years
and so i don't see him that much and it's like black water or black water sorry and it's like
oh so what's he doing and he's like a lot of stuff in the middle east he doesn't really talk about
it and he just was apparently he has a litany of substance abuse problems and a couple of them got
like got killed in Iraq and maybe they burned the bodies and hung them from a bridge or something
like that like they got ambushed in Iraq got fucked up one group of them yeah wait whose bodies
were burnt the Americans from Blackwater oh okay I misunderstood this is relevant how much do you guys
know about Game of Thrones like that world an enormous enough to be furious at how it ended
yeah okay fair enough uh there is a PMC in the in the world of Game of Thrones called the golden
company and their whole stick is that if you hire them it doesn't matter if somebody comes in
and offers more they stick by you their word is golden that is how they keep their reputation
they'll never turn sides they're never turn cloak i'm curious how like in today's landscape of
pmc's if that is a valuable asset to have right like i want to hire a pmc company that isn't
just all of a sudden going to take more money to fight for the other side and if i'm like the
like the leader of the PMC company from like a business side I think it might make sense to
stick with the word of like the original agreed upon contracts so that you know other dictators
want to hire me for sure they see me as like a trustworthy military to exterminate whatever problem
they have yeah see most of the conflicts that they're hired for and the situations that they're
hired for aren't like binary situations anyway it's not like like like they wouldn't be
hired for example by Somali pirates it's like yeah we don't work for Somali
Pirates. We work for
multi, multi, global
multinational shipping lane companies.
We're a legal
organization, not like bandits and
thieves. So I think that
most of the, or they work for a government,
the way you see Wagner
or Wagner, which
I don't even know if it's still a thing after
Vizolni or whatever got
taken out by
Putin. Oh, they dissolved?
Allegedly. Putin killed him.
They tried rebel against Russia about a year
ago, they turned their tanks around
and started heading toward Moscow.
I knew that part of the tale.
I just usually, that's like a next man
up kind of thing where they're like, all right, Putin got
rid of that guy, and now he's got like
a well-behaved little PMC.
Did he die in like a mysterious plane crash?
Indeed. Indeed. His plane fell
off a building.
His plane fell off a balcony.
It was drinking too much.
And the plane fell, yeah, he got
shot down by Putin and taken out
because he was talking too much smack. Plus, he was
getting big on social media like he would
always be standing there in his military
gear looking like a Tarkov boss
character like we are here
in eastern Ukraine soon
to be western Russia
and like just talking mad shit
and like he was getting he was doing well on
social media he was getting more popular than
Putin seemingly because he would he'd be like
our guys don't have this our guys don't have that
this is bullshit don't don't you know
because Putin would give him shit because
the advances hadn't been made and he's like we don't have food
we don't have food what do you do
like he was shining a light on some of the corruption
and the supply chain issues they were having
making them look bad. So yeah, they killed
that guy. Yeah, well, there's an example
of a turn cloak PMC, right?
I suppose so.
Yeah. I suppose so.
But it's not like he took Ukrainian money
and like exactly. He just like
was fed up with being fed
shit by his employer.
God, what a terrible decision that man made.
Yeah. That was a bad move.
I would have been like
I would have been smarter and been
like you know what after this whole kerfuffle
I'm never working for this guy again
but I'm also not a total retard
and I know this guy plays for real
I'm gonna keep driving the fucking
tanks to the whatever
fucking road he's telling me to guard
it's not an exaggeration they're gonna kill my
nieces and nephews
it's not an exaggeration to say that every month
someone who has given Putin a hard time
falls out of a window
or eats a pistol like every
month it happens I read about it every
single month a different guy of course people that we've
never heard of, but it'll be like, ah, noted Putin critic, blah, blah, blah,
fell off the eighth story of the what's, what you might call it building. It's like,
I don't think they're falling. You could have been clumsy. It could be a series. It could
be a series of unfortunate events.
Yeah, fucking like, that's, that's whenever, like, there's a lot wrong with the Trump
administration, but at least he's not whacking people, you know? At least you're not hearing
about people get thrown off of buildings or anything like that. That's when we know we, we
Maybe we need a little more whacking so that, like, Putin and Xi Jinping don't think that, like, they're the, you know, the cool guys at the table who get to, like, whack a lot.
Like, maybe we should be a little more intense.
I don't know.
We should, uh, we should be whacking our foreign enemies.
Trump keeps saying the D word.
He keeps talking about being a dictator.
He's like, some people say I should be a dictator.
I don't like dictators.
But some people say, maybe it's worth having a dictator.
if it solves these problems.
I don't know.
And it's like, stop saying that.
Anyway, this is all just a good way for me to say,
I'm signing another bill that boycotting Israel is illegal everywhere federally now,
and that's important.
Like, that's the kind of shit he's actually.
Yeah, literally the, I mean, the BDS laws were already on the books
in like almost every red state and many blue states prior to even the past couple
administrations.
But like, that seems to be as like attack on speech vector now is like,
dude we're going to have to vote for one of those
Omar like headdress
wearing dark skin Somali politicians
to get our due
I think I'm going to vote for a Somali
who's like going out on the street
and like you listen to that like Somali
mayoral candidate and he's talking
he's like a very important thing
about being a mayor in Minnesota
is prioritizing
more Somalis to come here
and it's like what the fuck
that doesn't really have anything to do with being the mayor
in Minnesota, in Minneapolis.
There's only like 300,000 Somalis in the country.
It's not even that big of it.
All of them that I've met, really nice guys.
The one, two that I met.
Yeah, Muhammad and
what was the other one's name?
Muhammad, probably.
Moses.
Muhammad and Moses.
Wow, both sides of the coin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Moses was more freewheeling.
He was getting pussy.
He was doing a little nose candy.
And Muhammad, though,
had like 85,000 children or something like that each looked like a carbon copy of him they all
look like they were about to let somebody know who the captain was now yeah and uh and and just
real funny nice hardworking people very distinct head shape in the somali community oh yeah yeah
yeah you can pick up same with it same with Nigerians like like like you see a Nigerian head
yeah they got a big blocky head like a powerful head like they did dude Nigerian head budded you you crack like
an egg yeah maybe not me but like an average person
I'm letting you know
This is like
My Nigerian body was like
Legit 6-4-240
Like Austin was his name
I couldn't have been his real name
But he called pussy cuckoo
He's like last night I get a lot of cuckoo
And he was talking about this
He's like I get the pillow
And I wrap it around their waist
And I grab either side
And the cuckoo tried to run away
But just know where to go from Austin
Damn, talking about your stuff in that tense.
Yeah.
Okay, well, see, now you've sold me.
I would never vote for one of those Somali guys coming over here.
But that Nigerian guy you just brought up, I think I would pick him because, you know, he seems to, if he treats our country as seriously as he treats the puku.
The cuckoo.
I think we're in good hands.
So I'd be, I'm just saying you go for the Nigerian because they're not, their natural enemy is the Israeli.
Is it?
I just think that they're the only ones who are going to, they're Muslims.
Nigeria is a mostly Christian.
Well, Nigeria is, but I'm still talking about the, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, um,
the Somalis.
Fucking, la, la, la, la, la, with RPGs.
What the, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not Poca Haram, no, the official, uh, the official
Cola, Cocoa Haram, Wolf Cola.
No, I think those, that's the only group that, you know, has any political power that, uh, that
Omar lady and a couple
of those, what the squad? We're going to have to vote
for the squad, Taylor, if we want to get
some representation that isn't Jewish-backed.
I mean, Israeli-backed.
Exactly. Excellent
clarification there.
There's a difference. It's a big difference.
I'm not anti-semitic.
I think I'll just go to not...
I have Jewish friends. I love them.
I'll go back to not voting.
That'll just be the solution.
It's just now.
Fuck it. These people are all horrible.
I mean, you know, your vote.
doesn't matter anyway. Nobody should vote.
No.
You know, and eventually we'll get through this silly little democracy experiment,
and then we'll go back to Kings.
Would you like a monarchy?
Only if I totally agreed with them.
Otherwise, it could be a disaster for me.
No shit.
I know, that's kind of the rub, isn't it?
But then there is, and I've mentioned this before,
the one really strong benefit of a monarchy
over other forms of governance is like,
If shit gets totally fucked up in 1,200s, France, everyone's like,
who is to blame for this and these problems being facing us?
And they're like, well, it is King Louis.
He is the guy at the very top.
We should probably go through a tantrum and see if we can get them out.
Like, there was somebody to put it on.
In other systems, it's like, and you know who the next guy is going to be.
You know, usually there's an air and he's being groomed up.
But we're saying, Woody, like, we're going to get rid of this whole.
democracy thing. It didn't work out.
What's your... We're going to kings. King's mode.
So where do you want to go? What other
political system do you want to live
under? What do you want to make America into?
Taylor, I think, is leaning pretty hard monarchy.
I'm thinking full republic.
I have to pick the king. If I can't
pick the king, then it could be a terrible disaster.
You cannot pick the king.
Then I don't know if I like the idea. He will win.
The king is the one who beats all
the other pretenders to the throne.
There'll be some sort of civil war battle type thing.
there's just no good form of government
once you need a critical mass of a number of people.
Your king would be DeSantis probably. He's probably the one who went
or Rick Scott in that chair.
Like it'd be somebody like that.
No, I wouldn't, we would not have a crippled king
and uh,
DeSantis in his fucking lifts.
No, that guy is anything but kingly.
I think full republic. I don't know who a good thing we have.
I think the citizens should vote on almost everything.
Like like you should, you should, there should be like it almost there.
You know, they'll have like a proposition in your local area.
Like, ah, vote yes on Prop 40.
We're going to, we're going to expand the park.
It's like, oh, I like that.
Everybody gets a little say in this, not just some little bureaucrat.
That's a pure democracy, not a represented democracy.
Right, where voters choose everything.
That's not a, a republic would be with representatives.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, then I'm, then pure democracy is going.
Oh, I'm going the other way.
I want to take it completely out of the hands of the bureaucrats.
It's all based on honor and who can win the fist fight.
that's how our leaders are decided
clings seems like
in action it's a
clingons would bring out a bat lift or a katang
Woody is just agreeing with my
martial archie pumped
yeah you know
and also I do agree
the monarchy should be
the guy should be tough
he should be big and strong
and able to intimidate
like if we had a
barathean Robert if we had a barathean type
imagine instead of like Trump
or Biden or whoever going to face Putin
you've got a guy who looks like
Raja.
Jackson. And he's wearing, you've got Raja Jackson. He shows up in his gray suit.
But like everybody slams Putin right away. He shows up in an orange jumpsuit.
All the all the monarchs in history are dainty little pussies, though, because they've all been interbred for the past like 15 generation. So if we want to keep the bloodline pure for the next line, we have a problem. I think at this point we need to bring scientists in. We
can't just allow regular procreation.
I think we need a scientifically created perfect monarch at this point.
An Uber man.
That's an...
Why has no one ever thought of this before?
We could create an Uber man.
A master group.
A master group.
A master...
Come on, something.
We'd have like a Superman that we would
create from the best of us.
We'd have to get rid of a lot of people, though,
don't you think? And we would have special rules
so there wouldn't be inbreeding this
time. This was your... There would be...
No Habsburg shit. No Habsburg jaw.
None of that. We start noticing some
ugly monarchs. We go, you guys have hit the
expiry date. You're out. We're going back
to attract... We want, like, the John Sina
looking down. Ooh, John Sina.
I think you and I are mostly on the same page, wouldn't?
what about like in a i'm going a little bit fictional here in a world where there are superheroes
mutants whatever it might be would you be okay taylor i know that uh you hate foreigners
would you be okay with a foreigner from outer space a superman from krypton who is you know
draped in the american flag being our president i am because that guy seems pretty tight
no fuck that look look i 100% side with lex luther and most of
the comics. Like some of the comics, he's just jelly.
Isn't he the bad guy? Yes.
Well, it, freedom fighter or terrorist.
Depends where you're standing, right? It's all about
perspective. What is his motivation? I've never watched
a superhero movie. Is it jealousy or what?
Depends on the comic, but consider this.
Before a god from
another planet showed up, he was
the smartest, richest,
and like most, one of the more physically
fit humans on the planet. Luthor
bitch is like 550, like raw.
Luthor is a bad motherfucker. And he's
like a super genius. And he's
a trillionaire. And then all of a sudden, here comes the son of Krypton, who everyone
like fawns over and just immediately trust. He's a walking hydrogen bomb with feelings,
that gets upset and angry and cries and has emotional outbursts. The idea that you don't
have a check and a balance against Calell is insane. If he can't, if this happened in our
reality, every major politician, Xi and fucking Putin and Trump would be in a room like we
got to come up with some kind of a krypton cannon.
Like we need kryptonite canons.
We need kryptonite fucking death rays.
We got to do something about this.
A god came from another planet.
And he's like bullying us and pushing us around and doing what he wants.
He's flying across international.
G's problem because he's leading America, which means we have Superman.
We've got this guy.
Well, that's an interesting.
That's one of the best Superman comics ever.
It's justice.
no the red it's like red uh oh where he's a soviet he's a soviet so we have you have superman
crash land in stalin's soviet russia and uh and he ends up like working under stalin but he's still
pure of heart um he's it's just he's soviet superman of course it creates this huge imbalance
where the west is like they have a god there's a fucking communist god over there and i think
at the end of the comic, it comes down to
the whole world has turned communist
except for America, who have
like thrown up the fucking shields and the walls
and Superman has to decide whether
he's going to force America
to be communists.
Because his idea was always that like,
they'll see the light. They'll see that our way
is best. We don't force them to do
and of course Stalin is always the
devil on his shoulder. And then Stalin
dies and they want Superman to
be the leader of the Soviet
union. And it's a whole, it's a very
Superman's story. But all I'm saying is that
Luther is only the bad guy
because Superman is the main character
of the book. If Luther
was the main character of the book, or if you were
Luther, you would 100% understand his point
of view. Now, in some of the comics, they just make him
like jelly.
Yeah, sometimes he's a little too twirly
mustache bad guy, but for
the most part, he's actually like
weirdly relatable, even though he's a
quadrillionaire. Yeah, the voice of reason
because it's like, whoa.
Sounds like he could make a good king if it's not one of
the issues where he's a mean guy.
He becomes president in many of the issues.
How about this?
Superman is here, or a Superman,
because I guess anyone from Krypton can be Superman with our son, right?
And he's going to take charge, but he's a dwarf.
Fuck.
Because that says to me.
Sausage fingers?
Yes.
Does he have the little voice?
He has a little voice.
People of earth, hear me.
He's like a little or d.
Does he have the bad?
hips. So, like, when he's got, he's got, uh, that dwarf hip dysplasia, like old labs get.
Yeah. Yeah.
So he like lips up to the stage.
I'd be like, I can't respect this guy. I don't even care that he flies. He's tiny.
Dude. Yeah, I wouldn't like that at all. I, um, I think if I were Superman, I would try to rule the world,
but I would want to be, I wouldn't want to create like a world war. I would want my own country.
I would need my, like a Superman style Vatican so that I could be.
fair and impartial to the whole world.
You'd probably use the Vatican.
The Pope couldn't kick you out.
I would just take the Vatican.
It would look awesome.
I don't think,
I think there's like a billion people
that are going to hate me
if I take the Vatican away from the Pope.
I'm going to show them all the rare bones.
And I'm going to
the Holy Prep Use.
Yeah, I'm going to dig that Holy Prep Use out.
Every little bit.
But you're right.
That would be,
I can't imagine the Holy Prep Use.
I'm familiar with Prep Use.
You do it before sex shows to avoid HIV.
Exactly.
Little Prep Use.
That's PrEP.
I see a lot of commercials for that on sports now for some reason.
Like, there's a bunch of gay guys watching in the NFL.
We have billboards for it here.
It's like, don't get AIDS in your ass.
Take prep.
I told you.
I knew what I was talking about.
It's one of those moving billboards, too.
So it's awful to look at.
Remember the old moving billboards where it was physical turning of those little triangles
and it would flip into the new picture?
I always liked those because you could always identify like,
oh, that one's kind of broken.
No, the Holy Prepuse, for those who don't know, is Jesus Christ's foreskin.
And there's varying accounts on whether it rose to heaven when he rose to heaven after
his resurrection, or many Catholics believe, and several popes have claimed to be in possession
of the Holy Prepuse.
And I read the other day that it is supposedly held in the Vatican archives, along with,
um they they uh they uncovered some church uh that had supposedly the the original cross that
jesus was crucified on there were three crosses and they took the one in the middle
and apparently they have the part in the and the vatican archives that says like
jesus of nazareth king of the hebrews or something on some plaque or something like that
they claimed to have had that and they said that of course part of the legend was they brought
a sick woman in and they exposed her to each of the three crosses to figure out which one was the
good one and she was healed by the cross of Christ.
That's pretty cool. I mean, if they had something like that, which if there was a church that
had that, it would be the Catholics. They have been around since then. But like, why wouldn't
you, like, that seems like a big seller. Like, that shouldn't be in a basement somewhere. You should
be like, hey, boys, right next to this guy's fucking holy bones and this crazy, elaborate building
we're in is the cross. Like, you would put that out to show. And that's, that's a tip of Jesus
this dick right there. You won't sniff it?
Some Pope was using it as a bookmark
you know, 600 years ago.
One of the Pope's grounded
in the pattern. They should be keeping it in a hospital
to cure all the sick people.
Well, it's got
like a sort of a
recharge.
You got to recharge the man on it.
The amount of stories that I heard like from when
I was a kid, I was born hardcore Catholic.
Like I was an altar kid. Never
molested. Just to clarify. I always have to tell people that.
Yeah, yeah, of like people traveling.
Because you looked old.
Yeah.
They didn't want your hairy ass.
Yeah.
You know, I have stories that I heard of people traveling like hundreds of miles to see a
holy chip because the Virgin Mary has appeared on a Pringle's chip.
Like a dime a dozen weirdly in Latin America.
Oh, they can't get it.
That only happens in Latin America.
They're addicted to it.
They're addicted to the Virgin Mary appearing.
in like a pancake that
they just made for breakfast. And now that's
curing things.
I mean, whatever works.
Whatever works.
You may think this is because I'm bad at cooking
pancakes, but it's actually
the Lord. Isn't there,
aren't they also hiding the
existing bloodline of Jesus Christ?
Like the direct descendants?
Wait, is that her? Or the
it's her, right?
No, and the chip, that's the Virgin Mary.
Oh, are you telling me that's not a self-portrait?
That is the Virgin Mary.
I see it.
It looks more like a flapper girl.
I see the boomer.
It does like a flapper girl.
Yeah, like that hair, that kind of like 20s look.
What is this?
What kind of chip is this?
That looks like a tortilla.
I think it's a tortilla.
I think it's a tortilla.
Oh, it's just they pour it all up.
Listen, at this point, I don't even blame these people because I'm pretty sure there was a Cheeto that looked like a Charzar.
that sold for like $100,000
good for them
dude some guy woke up the next morning
like what did I buy
he ate it
somebody need to work on that lady's makeup
that was rough
was black lipstick
I thought she was trying to look like the chip
she's like I got something going here
tomorrow I'm breaking out the black lipstick
I don't think that's
I don't think you should be buying chips
because I've also seen Elvis Presley chips being sold
or people are like this looks exactly like Elvis Presley
and then someone buys it for eight grand
that's crazy
I kind of just put together
telling everyone they're wrong about facial recognition
so maybe this isn't the area I should stand
that would be a fun game to set up
this link does this Cheeto
does look remarkably like a Charzard
That's
$87,000
is what that Cheeto sold for
How was that one piece?
That's a
That's the craziest Cheeto shape
I've ever seen
Can we see it, Zach?
Oh, thank you.
It looks like Charzard
It looks like a dragon with wings.
That's what Charzart is.
Charzart is.
Yeah, yeah.
And for some reason they put them on
I was to say stage two
at the top left.
It's like they're trying to do
like a chip version of Charmelian.
He says 120 HP.
Maybe that's the standard amount of hit points for Charzard.
I don't know.
Put Cheetosard on a stage one.
Yeah.
This is the one that's worth a bunch now, right?
I think.
Yeah, that first edition, Shattelis Charzard, I think it's like just like half a million
pretty standardly.
There was an episode of Pawn Stars where a guy brought in like 50 of these about eight
years ago and he wanted $100,000 for all.
of them. And of course, classic pawn stars, like, I'll give you $5 on a handshake, pal.
Had he actually purchased all of those charzards, you would have been looking at like millions
of dollars of profit just from buying this dude's charzards. But the guy held on. He still
has these charzards to this day. Good for him. A charzart is five foot seven, two hundred pounds.
That bitch.
It's simultaneously like small as fuck and needs a diet. Yes.
this is something that even as a kid
Woody upset me
and I had to create my own head cannon
for a lot of Pokemon because
on the cards exactly like that I'd be like
Charzards 5-7
no no no no he's not there's
a Pokemon called onyx who is a giant
rock snake it's a snake made of rocks that's like
25 feet long and the Japanese
guy who made the card was like
oh what kind of makes sense as far as
like size I say he 28 feet long
rock snake and that he
weigh 600 pounds it's like that doesn't make any sense it should be thousands of pounds
because it's a snake all boulders just the outside is rock though no i's solid rock how is that
doesn't make any sense taylor he can't be solid rock how would his digestive system work how would
it it doesn't it's what still rocks i never saw him fed it's rock on the outside clearly and and
your charzard there five seven makes sense it's five seven to like the top of his back probably
Like you can see he's all hunched over like he's five seven tall, but he's like seven feet long
Okay, here's a good
See there he is all stretched out. That's a better look for him, I think
Hmm. All right, here's a
I prefer the bigger Machamp there too, Machamp was sick
Oh, he's smaller in the anime. I didn't like the small haunter, haunter was neat
That guy looks familiar. Snorlax. He was always great. He was always great.
you just play that little flu they had like yeah they did make them gigantic in the animated series
okay that's huge 52 feet yeah it's the one in the polka decks which is like the game the one on
the left 28 feet 10 inches and i'm looking at a card right now they said 463 pounds for a rock snake
that's 28 feet long that's that's retarded if if seven-year-old me was able to identify this as an
issue. It's an issue.
Look at that.
And also, this is a disappointing thing.
The giant rock snake is unusably weak and bad.
Terrible in the video games.
I was so upset by that.
I watched the animated series and I wanted to catch an onyx so bad because
Brock made them look so hardcore.
And then you tried to use an onyx.
I'm sure you did this too, Santee.
And you're like, oh, okay, well, this guy's just slow and horrible and is weak to
like 11 different types.
It says here that a 28-foot snake would
weigh 500 pounds.
Yes.
A regular snake.
It's made of snake meat.
And this is made of granite.
So what's the diameter of the snake, Taylor?
Because I have the answer here.
Of the onyx?
Oh, I don't know.
I would guess it's always drawn with like a bunch of balls of rock connected.
And so I don't know what the diameter would be.
Can you throw something out there between three and 12 inches?
it's got to be more than that what do they say more than 12 inches for diameter oh yeah it's got to be like feet
like four feet that's what i'm imagining 28 feet four feet wide that seems too they're long and narrow
is a small godzilla made of rock and is a snake it's that bring up bring up my picture again
yeah and you can kind of see a little more because like that's another thing with onyx is
it doesn't have snake proportions.
The head and the body are so big
and girthy and it doesn't match up
to the total length of it. So like if this thing
did exist, it would be, it would
seem short and it would be heavy as fuck.
Well,
Jesus, using
this formula,
if it was 28 foot by
12 inches, it would weigh
3,775 pounds.
Assuming GPT is worth a darn, I don't know.
Well, then it should easily be like 10,000 pounds because if that's 28 feet long,
it looks like that head is what, five feet, eight feet,
there's got to be six feet across if that's 28 feet long.
No, it's not.
All right, look at the length of it and imagine about a fourth.
That is not the diameter of the head.
okay maybe it was like five feet across
look at it that's a gigantic head
there's no this is crucial there's nothing for scale here
we know that it's 28 feet long that weird grass in the background
what is this you don't need scale it's 28 feet 10 inches long
I don't know what this picture is okay I suppose but I still need to
I need a fucking slide ruler or something
to figure out diameter.
I thought it was like a slice shot of it
like being underground doing rock snake things.
Oh, it's, it's levitating.
It's like standing on it's like.
Yeah, I picture like a cobra, but it's, you know.
Yeah.
This is a terrible, a terrible artwork.
I don't care for it.
Reason number 87, why I didn't get into your silly card game.
I never got into the video games are good.
I don't even know where I would play that video game.
He's an alpha nerd.
On your game.
boy in 1997 on road trips.
I had Tetris. I played Tetris.
That's all I had.
Oh, that's so much worse.
Pokemon at least had a story.
You could keep engaged for a super long road trip.
You only stopped playing when the batteries for your Game Boy and the batteries for that
ridiculous clip-on light because they weren't backlit back then.
When that thing died, there was nothing more frustrating than like driving at night as a little
kid on a road trip.
And your Game Boy still has juice.
but your light dies
and you're like trying to angle it
and then you get bold and you turn on
the overhead light and then your dad's like
he trying to fucking kill us
you were rich
you had the light
the idea that the interior light in a car
like impaired the driver's ability
to do what he's doing is this
lie that they tell it still hurts
my feeling my father used to take me
fishing we go out on a boat
in the bay in Ocean City and he absolutely had me convinced that if I talked at all that
we'd scare the fish away and I realized literally like two years ago he told me he's like yeah
your dad just didn't want to hear you wow so many hours of me just shutting the heck up
because he did not want to talk to me okay okay that happens he's so
of a gun. We could have chatted about life.
I vibe with Kyle's Tetris comment there. I thought Tetris was, I think Tetris is the greatest
video game of all time. It is perfection. There is nothing wrong with Tetris. There is
no need to make Tetris better. And if you want to see something that'll blow your fucking
mind, watch the Tetris World Championships. You think chess people are impressive?
The Tetris people will blow your fucking mind. They've gotten to the point. By the way,
still play on like an original
NES system. They have
somehow discovered a trick
to move the
objects across the screen
much faster by turning the controller
upside down and tapping
it like put ta-da-da-da
with their with their with their with their
fingers and it's somehow
yeah they're like fanning
yeah they're fanning the back of the
controller they found this strategy
to move the
the pieces at superhuman level.
They're still making, they're still becoming better at Tetris nowadays.
And to me, that's impressive.
It's incredibly impressive.
But then again, I'm impressed by a guy who's so good at Snakey, fills up the whole board.
That's hard.
That is really hard.
I'm more impressive people that are good at those types of games than I am impressed by like a professional call of duty player.
I obviously, I played a lot of Call of Duty.
And I've seen like the scumps of the world and like, oh my God.
Yes, you are a god, but fucking, I think his name is Jeff Chen in Tetris.
That is just significantly more impressive.
I find that maybe like in Call of Duty, there is maybe this feeling of like, I think I could do that.
But when I see the Tetris guy do his thing, there is a gap where I know I'm physically incapable of ever being able to do what that guy is doing.
That's an interesting point.
Like the best version of me, me on my best day ever was probably equal to scump for a whole two, three minutes in a row.
Like I've had stretches where I was just the super me.
I have never equaled those Tetris people at all, even close.
Should see the professional yo-yo players, they're fucking crazy too.
I watched the thing about this guy the other day.
He's a 40-something year old street fighter player and a professional as a professional.
and it's in a game where apparently, you know, the younger you are, the better.
And he's just an absolute showman.
He's doing all sorts of splits and like doing the running man and dancing and getting
wacky on stage.
And he plays the worst character in the game, this giant fat character.
You go.
They can't do anything.
But he's like played it so much.
He's a gangster at it.
I watched a great video about this guy coming back and winning.
I saw the same one, I bet.
Yeah.
Probably so.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's got this clap move and he's really good at spacing.
I mean, all the characters are meant to be balanced, but in reality, they're not, right?
Yeah, this guy makes a bad one work.
And he has an advantage in that other players aren't used to facing him.
So he's facing, I'll make it up, you know, Raiu constantly, but people don't face Hugo.
Yeah.
I never watched fighting game tournaments.
I always assumed, like, they have.
a draft of sorts where like they kind of were forced to play all different characters to show like
oh you you're just good at the game you have to put some tournaments where and play a whole tournament
with the same character so there there are some tournaments where the rules allow your opponent
to veto a character we're like I don't want to play against Ryu right so then your opponent
can play as any other characters they want except Rio but that that to me those are usually like
lower tier tournaments. You want to see the best
of the best. You want to see like the best player pick
the best character that he's best with.
But many tournaments do have a veto system.
Yeah. I mean,
that's how RTS tournaments work.
And so I assume that's how all the other ones.
Because like when I watch AOE tournaments,
it'll be like, you know,
Hara bans,
Portuguese, bohemians, blah, blah,
all these ones. And so his opponent
can't pick that. And that his opponent in return
bans the things he anticipates
him using to success. And,
although there's there's 50 sips in that game so like there are a lot of bands we would
always do picks and bands like pick uh five like to play and five sives that you don't want any one
to play or whatever um because you get rid of all the unbalanced shit yeah especially if there's like
as all these games are like it's it feels like there's always some cheese meta where you know
they rebalance and something is kind of missed in the in the crossfire and then it's like oh
we didn't mean for Ryu to become this powerful because we overlooked how like this frame rate delay for his character would actually make him like unblockable in his jab or whatever the fuck it is.
Or in Siv, we'd ban Sibs that are early game attack Sibs like Mongolians or maybe Egyptians with chariots or something like that.
Someone that's going to come at you super early and be difficult and ruin the game.
there are card games like Magic the Gathering Yu-Gi-O where the company itself that made the cards
they made a super overpower card where they have to come to Jesus and realize all right this is banned
I know we made the card I know it's intended to do this but we accidentally broke the game
and because this isn't a video game where we can go in and patch it this card's just not allowed
Winota yeah well they do that not only because I'm sure sometimes they actually make a mistake
and you're like, oh, this is kind of meta-breaking,
but it's also like, now they've got to buy
something else. It's not like they refund your
money for those cards that are now banned
or let you exchange them for new cards.
They kind of should.
They should, or they'll insult you
and be like, at least in MTG Arena,
the online version,
like they will retroactively change
the card because it's online.
And so, like, you'll build a whole deck around
the Meat Hook Massacre and
And then you're like, oh man, this deck is killing it. This is great. And then they make an announcement on their website where it's like, actually, so sorry. But now that everyone's bought this card to build decks around because it's a super fun card to use, we're actually just going to retroactively change what the card does. So you still own it. It's just like not going to do any of the things you bought it for. And it's like, okay, so if you would have released this card in its current text that you've adapted it to,
no one would have gone bananas over it, but everyone's bought it now.
Everyone's got it.
And they had like two, three weeks of fun.
And now it's, you know, just retconned.
It's very scary.
One of my favorite things that happens in these games is when they release a card like 10 years ago that all of a sudden because of a technicality becomes relevant like 15 years later.
For example, this isn't an actual example, but like to give something that could be realistic, there might have been a card like 15 years ago of a.
of a deck of like the magical warriors deck
and it might be a card that's like you pull it it's a spell card
you can look and add any magical
any monster with the word magical in its name to your hand
or any card with the word magical to your hand
all right that works at searching the magical deck
because you have a bunch of cards that start with the word magical
but then 15 years go by and all of a sudden
some god card that happens to have the word
magical that was never supposed to be comboed or be used with the deck from 15 years ago
all of a sudden is some meta-breaking card but it's supposed to be hard to get but you can go to
the card from 15 years ago add that to your deck and now all of a sudden you have a card that
allows you to find this card that has the word magical in it that was never intended to combo
but the rule said if it's got the word magical in it it works and that's great that's one of the
fun things about trading card games like magic is you will find little loopholes like that
as the game progresses because I don't know how Yu-Giote works. I've never played or had any
Yu-Gi-o cards, but in magic, the kind of rule of thumb or the understood reality of the game
is everything is so broken that nothing is broken. Like there's, oh, your opponent is playing
some really annoying infinite combo. Well, I guarantee there's another infinite combo that
destroys everything he was trying to do or some nonsense combo that was never intended. And so,
you know, you should have used that against it. Speaking of, this just made me think of the trading
card thing. Dick Masterson, friend of the show, and also Vito Giswaldi, who he and Dick do the
biggest problem in the universe podcast together. They've both been on here, funny guys. I saw a
highlight, because I really don't follow
their show closely, but
Dick made a bit
where he was like, Vito
fans are sending
in like, Vito's like addicted
to nerd shit, like
figurines and like trading cards and
stuff. And Dick was like,
hey, a lot of fans are sending in
rare cards
or nonsense.
What are those goofy little figure? Funko pops.
Funko pops, yeah. They're sending
stuff in. And so then every at the
of every episode, Dick started a bit called Vito's Booty where he dresses like a pirate
and he puts one of the things that the viewers sent in in a treasure box. And Vito can either
get on a scale because he's a fat guy and say what he weighs to the audience. And if he gets
on the scale and weighs himself, he receives the gift. If he says, I will not get on the scale,
then Dick burns or destroys in front of him
whatever was.
And apparently there's a character called Mother's Milk
in Black Panther or The Boys.
Okay, I didn't even know.
But apparently that's like the most,
Vito did not like getting a ton of Mother's Milk Funko Pops.
And so for like 12 weeks in a row,
he's like, I guess I'll get on the scale.
And Dick's like, here you go, another Mother's Milk
Funko Pop.
and he like tricked Vito and to wear one week Dick was like so Vito you're going to hop on
the scale you know Vito's booty you're going to get what's in the box and Vito's like no I'm not
going to do it this time I'm you know I'm you know just destroy whatever's in the box this week
and then Vito was like or Dick was like all right well the first thing is a mother's milk
funkopop and the second thing is an artist signed Gaya's cradle 900
dollar magic card and immediately video veto is like like like nerd panic we're like no no I can
I'll get on the scale I'll get on this girl I'm so sorry I'll get on the scale and he makes him
he does sit there and watch as dick in a pirate outfit being like our well it doesn't seem that
rare to me he lights it on top and he just burned a $900 magic card in front of them and the
whole time. Vito's like, why, how could you do this? He's like, you should have got on the scale.
You could have got on the scale. He could have showed us how much you like. That cracked me up.
It was the most intense like nerd panic and fear I had ever seen in my life. Like a like a cartoonish level of
as soon as he pulled the card out. Has he ever released his comic that he's been promising for the past like four and a half years?
I saw that he did release it.
But I don't know. I mean, I haven't read it or anything. I'm not a big comics guy. But I think he's released it because it's been years now. I remember we had him on for the first time a few years ago and he was talking about it. And then when we had him on like eight months ago, he was like, Woody followed up and was like, how's the comic going? And he's like, I was totally amazing. You were good faith.
To provide a platform where he would brag about his success and what issue he was on. That's what was in my head. It didn't go like that. Yeah. And then he's like, well, not. And Woody's like, huh.
It's been years.
I guess he's out now.
From what from like I didn't know he had it out.
But like the problem because I followed,
I followed those guys and I and I do watch that show is that I think he would purposely self-sabotage because he was afraid specifically of Dick Masterson reading the comic and roasting it.
I think that he would constantly push back release dates.
Say, oh, this artist in Brazil, they got this like pixel.
that absolutely nobody will notice wrong.
So we had to restart everything
and now we're back nine months.
I just genuinely think because Dick is so fucking mean to Vito
that he was just scared to release the comic
because Vito would,
because Dick would just make fun of it.
I think that's realistic.
And like that would be a scary guy
to have like ready to critique your art and your writing
because Dick is a very gifted writer.
He knows like he's not.
going to come with writing critique, like, oh, this is all gay and lame and you suck.
Like, it's going to be stuff that probably hurts.
Like, this is phrased incorrectly.
This isn't organized right.
The plot, the plot through line, uh, there's no incentive for this character here.
There's too many comments from the back, like, whatever it is.
And so, like, that would be intimidating.
It's like, oh, fuck, I can't even write this off as though he doesn't know what he's talking about
because he does.
There comes a point, though, where like, if I, if I want to show somebody something,
I don't really want your feedback.
I just want you to like blindly say, yeah, I like it.
The project is done.
I'm not going to change it.
You can get the greatest feedback ever, but this is it.
This is what's coming out.
And also it's like, you know, it's his first comic, right?
So I would imagine like that's part of the, yeah, it's going to be perfect.
Well, it was through Vito that I learned that there's some sort of like comic book YouTube cartel.
of all of these YouTubers
trying to release comics with one another
because they got into some giant beef
with a guy named Eric July that
ended up getting to like levels of
like litigation over
beef about their comics.
Which is
absurd. I didn't know the
online comic game was that serious, but these
people are very, very serious.
They're very serious about it, yeah.
I've never read a comic. I don't know
anything about that world.
I've read the walking.
Okay, maybe this is a comic, but I've never read a physical comic.
I've never sat down and I'm like, I'm going to read Superman issue, whatever,
but I have sat down and read the entirety of the Walking Dead comic, like online.
But that is the, yeah, that I just super into the Walking Dead and you wanted to know what's next.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I did that with the Game of Thrones books.
Fuck me for thinking that he would finish before he would die.
That fat idiot.
But I did it because I was a big Walking Dead.
fan. I'm like, I want to see what happens next. Luckily, the story of the books is so different
from the show, so it ultimately didn't spoil too much. But I still have hope, man, about the world
of ice and fire. I still have hope that this piece of shit, this lazy asshole, I'm so mad at him,
even though he's created in my favorite world, that he will maybe finish this. Let me say what
the move would be. Let me say what the move would be to redeem everything. It seemingly for like nine
years or something. He's been working on
the next book, Wins of Winter or whatever.
And I think from my, I know
he's released, I don't know the exact number
anymore, but like half a dozen, maybe even a dozen
chapters. I've seen him read
full chapters from Wins of Winter at
Comic-Con and places like that. Very, very
nice of him. That's cool shit.
That would get me to show up if I was a super fan.
But what if he revealed that
not only has he written
Winds of Winter, but he's got the
last book too. What if he came out? Yeah, what if he was
like,
you get winds of winter and
December you get whatever
Feast for Crows or whatever the last one's called
I don't remember like in July
Yeah yeah yeah
You can pre-order them in a bundle right now
For twice as much or something like that
Limited you know like that would fully redeem him
Yeah
He was like I've been eating shit for the last decade
Literally
I'm not a slow writer
I've written them both
Plus a third book that was unannounced
I've got all three will be coming out
like that would redeem him fully but that would be a drop of the mic moment people would go
fucking crazy and everyone would get down on their knees and apologize but instead what he does
he releases these statements where he's like i know you want me to to write the thing i'm most
known for the thing that five million of you used to show up for every week but no i'm interested
lots of things i'm interested in video games i like i'm making an elden ring movie i'm making
I'm going to do an Ewok story for for Disney.
I'm writing an erotic novel based in the in the Game of Thrones universe,
but 5,000 years prior.
It's just elf pussy.
Nothing but elf pussy.
He said something like that where he's like, I'm interested in lots of stuff.
And I know that you want me to do this one thing, but I'm not going to do it.
Yeah, he got dumped on.
Yeah, he got dumped on a hard by fans.
I like Taylor, I know that you invested most of you.
your intellectual points in the nerdum of the Lord of the Rings.
And that has paid off because Lord of the Rings,
that world is still beloved to this day.
Bastrodize a little bit.
I put all of my points into the world of ice and fire.
Like all of them.
I got to like I know every single little house in the north.
I know what houses belong to to do to what fucking war.
Jordan, who reacts to who, the, the, the, the lore between them for the past, like, 700 years.
I invested into all of that.
It's great lore.
Like, it's really a well-fetched out, man.
The fucking show, ruined, like, once I watched the ending of that show, and I knew, like, he's
not going to finish it, dude.
I don't, I know he's not going to finish it.
But I'm just so upset that I invested so much time in learning what might end up being fucking
useless in the long term.
I want to have what you have, Taylor.
knowledge of a beloved franchise
that you can pull out at any moment
that you know of the hill
yeah
people respect you like I
Taylor has this incredible knowledge
that I'm jealous of
no one is jealous of my world of ice and fire
knowledge it's because Lord of the Rings
ended well
yes and so like it was a story that
ended which is a big part of stories
ending it really and yeah
Game of Thrones
it's four fucking times bro let's be real
it ended then it ended again and again and again and again
That thing went, the screen went all white.
It came back for another 10 minutes.
Then it went all black and it came back for another 10 minutes.
He's like, yeah, it didn't make...
There was a little bit of a fake out.
And the scourge of the shire, admittedly, was interesting.
But also, it was like, we can't have a culmination of world saving events
and then invest more care in a much smaller regional conflict.
It doesn't flow very well.
but I understand why he did it
you know they if anything well it doesn't
make sense with the way the trilogy ends but
like if there was some Amazon show
about the uh is it the scourging
of the Shire
I've watched the season of that
like like if you were just watching
like if it began with Aragorn
being crowned king and him saying you bowed to no one
and then kind of goes forward chronology
chronologically from there
I'd be down for that
ending with the scourging of the shire and then but then you also have sarahman being killed off
at the beginning of return of the king yeah that wouldn't work so they'd have to like
be leaning on which is better he just did it better look i i read the books twice i'm sure you've read
them more you know you definitely know more than i do but i like peter jackson's version in that
regard way better i like his ending better and i like his ending for sarumon better i like
sarahman getting his comeuppets in the extended edition falling with the palanter you know
coming out of his pocket.
I like weren't done.
I kind of wish Grima had been redeemed fully.
There was no redeeming that guy.
I wish they had had been like,
nice one, Grima.
Come on down.
We've got salted pork.
And he's like,
salted pork.
And even his killing of Saruman wasn't fully,
it wasn't like I realized the wrong I've committed.
It was a maybe I can pull a parachute here.
And they'll give me a little bit of good.
He was.
he was angry because he was brought in on the wrong of rohan come down and what do you say
not be not be redeemed but but something like that but but he wouldn't be redeemed they would
have had to kill the guy and like sarahman is like and like backhands him and it's it's like
he's like rage that makes him do the killing so i i guess maybe he's not redeemed because of that
alone but like i kind of want to agree i love that actor it's brad dorif i kind of wanted him to
have that theoden like moment where since sarahman was dead he like got his
skin tone back because the man looks like he's like greenish blue like a corpse like he looks so
gross i wanted him to like get a sun tan suddenly yeah yeah yeah like he's like the evil that he's
and i also like uh transforming him physically almost i like that when like it was very funny to see
what a ghoul grima is initially in the two towers when you're introduced to him and he's like
whispering to theoden and there's still like employees
walking around with like mead and apples and stuff
and no one's like dude this guy's fucking changed
since that weird
is his name worm tongue that's his last name
no oh my god dude someone's got to get on the fucking ball here
like this under control because this guy's clearly bad
we tell him like hey do you want to send troops to fight the orcs back
and greenbiz like you can't spare them
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I'm a bit of vandal
you're a bit of a bit of a miscreant
people have said so yeah
what's the most expensive thing you vandalize
what in your life did you ever tag anything
Did you ever scratch into anything, even if it's just as simple as like, you scratch your name into a desk or something?
Did you ever properly vandalize something?
Are you thinking of something, Kyle?
Oh, I got some good ones.
Yeah, I want to hear, Kyle.
Why don't you take over while I think?
All right.
So I was in a certain state and a certain night.
And the hotel had a big ass fountain out front.
So we went to Walmart and got like a ton of Mr. Bubble.
And we poured it into the fountain and destroyed the,
inner workings of the fountain like the motor filter system was ruined for thousands of dollars but
that night it it was really cool there were so many bubbles it looked like something from a movie it made
so much so much bubbles and then another time when i was 17 or 18 um probably yeah maybe just had
turned 18 on on spring break or maybe a senior trip same difference really though uh i threw well
me and my buddy threw a you know that thing when you go to a hotel and they they put your luggage on it the bellhop pushes it yeah yeah yeah those are very heavy um so so we we threw that off like the 14th floor and uh at the bottom they had it was one of those hotels that shaped like the letter oh and so in the middle there's a hollow spot so and there's a you know you can all look down through the balconies meant all the way to the bottom and in the bottom of the oh there was like a courtyard
with these concrete benches where people like a patio type thing it was the thing hit that and it
all exploded um like not with fireballs but with just shrapnel flying everywhere and so we
destroyed the luggage cart and the concrete patio set down below and i think they valued it at like
three thousand dollars uh because because that my buddy he took the full wrap and um his dad drove
all the way from northeast Georgia
to Panama City, Florida
and picked his ass up in the middle
of the trip and drove him all the way
back home without speaking a word to him, he said.
How old are we talking here, by the way?
18.
Okay.
18. The hotel had him
taken out the garbage
and like working for them doing like
slave jobs to start
earning the money back.
And so I just remember we were all
me and the two girls.
Like me, my girl and his girl
were going to get them tattoos.
One of them was getting like a dolphin on her ass or something.
And he was taking the garbage out.
He was he was like carrying big bags of garbage and like throwing them in the dumpster.
And we were like,
they got you taking the garbage out, huh?
He's like, yeah, they're paying me $8 an hour that goes against the money I owe.
A year later, he was still paying that off because his parents wouldn't help him.
He was just having to.
I think they paid it, but then he owed them.
And he was still, like, working that money off.
Good Lord.
Worst thing I ever vandalized.
I was a dick and I feel bad about it.
But I was 19 years old.
I was on a swim trip in my collegiate swim team would have winter training.
And we'd go to where there's a 50 meter pool,
which is a little more swimming to flip turn ratio and get into good shape.
Anyway, the hotel, we were on, I don't know, 14th story, something like that.
And the other people on the swim team were throwing cans of drinks, soda, beer.
not sure, into the pool. And at 14 stories, when it hit the pool, the can would break and it made
kind of an interesting effect and whatever. And I threw one like way up high in the air as
high as I could. Throwing and catching like a swimmer should. I missed the pool entirely. And it went
past the pool and landed on somebody's car, like the trunk or something. And this is a can from
great height. I'm sure it scratched
it and possibly dented it. I don't know if the
dent would pop right back out.
And everyone around me was like,
bro, that's not
cool.
Yeah, it's even less
cool with the way you guys are reacting.
They did you no favors here.
Yeah, they didn't cut me any slack on that.
That's actually how we got caught with
the luggage rack thing. Because like
there was no way to know that we threw
the luggage card off, but
except that the same night
we had been throwing empty liquor bottles
off our balcony down
to the pool below, and they
had just smashed everywhere down there.
Oh, no. So they
were responding to that, and
it, yeah,
Boone took the wrap. It was all good.
We were talking about things we vandalized.
We vandalized. Highest dollar
amounts. I ruined a fountain at a
at a holiday inn one time,
and I also,
we filled it up Mr. Bubble, and then I
also. Well, it's not ruined.
They can figure it. No, the next
day at breakfast, like, we got
word. Yeah, it's ruined. Someone ruined the
pump and filter system.
Like, it ruined it. Oh, no.
There was a, there were, I think we spoke
to the workers who were fixing it.
We're like, hey,
what are you doing? What happened here?
What happened?
You're still, you're still, you're all sudsy.
They're like shampoo hair.
Look what happened here.
So I don't have anything anywhere near that expensive.
I just asked the question.
I thought it was going to be tiny little things.
You guys fucking knocked it out of the park with that question.
I think like the most heinous thing that I did was at nighttime,
we went back to our school, me and my buddies,
and we cut the ball from all the tether ball poles because you're just fucking being assholes.
But the only one where I'm like, well, we cause damage, damage is there was a port.
in like the neighborhood that we lived in we lived in this enclosed like subsidized housing
and there was this woman that was growing tomatoes so we would hop her fence and we would steal
like a bunch of tomatoes already you know dickhead move number one yeah but then we would use
those tomatoes to like huck them at cars that were driving by oh man no you were waiting
this is like 31 like I'm young yeah I'm nine I'm nine yeah I'm nine yeah I'm nine yeah I'm nine yeah I'm
9 to 12, somewhere in there.
I did this a little later in life.
My cousins, like, it's stupid.
My cousin's stepdad or my, no, my cousin's step grandpa, however the fuck that all works.
Someone in the family was somewhat close with or at least he was.
Are you even related?
No, not me.
I'm not.
I'm not. No, no.
It's just the guy.
But my cousin was there.
That's why it's relevant.
So he's like, Paul Paul, run.
a tomato stand and they've got like a bushel of rotten tomatoes we can we can just go get them
and I'm like well let's go get them and so we had like a five gallon bucket full of they weren't
rotten rotten rotten like so gross you wouldn't touch them they were just soft and so like
we went around hitting houses with them instead of egging houses we matered them yeah
and of course the whole time we're like doing our like larry the cable guy voice is talking
about matering houses and and just tickling each other to death like I'm gonna mater that house real
good. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna mater it up too.
And like the three of us were like, we were actually matering people's houses we knew because
that seemed less like diabolical. So we'd be like, oh, we're gonna go.
It's like tee peeing. You know, you know, you know, that's how we saw. The guy lived in a trailer
though. So a mater hitting the side of that trailer, it, I could throw.
Boom, boom, boom. And we, you time it so that all three of you start, you're like, one, two,
three. Now. And then you start heaving your arm full of maters as fast as you can.
Three men hunking maters.
You can get 30 down range in like 12 seconds.
And then it's a sprint to the car.
We also did this thing where I would go to the fireworks store in South Carolina
because Georgia didn't sell fireworks back then.
And I'd get one of those rolls of firecrackers.
You know, it's the, they're rolled up in sort of a-
The shitty ones.
Like a tuna can looking shape.
And, you know, a 400 thing of firecrackers would be like $11 or something, maybe less.
The ones that looked like a bandalier?
Yeah.
But I would leave him rolled up and there was this kid that I beef with and I put it on
his doorstep of his parents' house and then I took a cigarette and I like and then pinched
the cigarette off of the butt and then stuck that onto the fuse.
So the cigarette was going to burn down and make an extra long fuse and then sprinting
out of his yard down the road because we've parked like an eighth of a mile away sprinting down
the road. The darkness is fully encompassing me now. His yard lights are far behind me. And I just
hear, boom. I'm just like, ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. Got him. We did, we did pumpkin smashing when I was
like, oh, that's classic. 13 or so. And it was in my friend's neighborhood, like, Halloween or
like October. We were at my friend's house, and it was a bunch of us. And so we were going around
pumpkin smashing which is just using a big hammer or if you're not the person with the hammer you
just pick up the pumpkin and slam it and you just pumpkin smash and we were all having a fun time
and then one of my buddies was like i'm gonna run up and smash that pumpkin and he had the hammer
and he misidentified like a metal decorative pumpkin with a real pumpkin and it it made it made the
loudest noise that he would have been made he rang a bell just boom
forever just resonated and it was like oh we gotta get out of here
we would we would steal pumpkins after Halloween because that's just a
public during Halloween like like Halloween that they're probably thank you
car you're you're right you're doing a service to these people I just like with the
with the tomatoes real quick I wanted to finish off like the the last no no no you're good
you're good um so we were throwing the and it was a slow road where not many cars went by so we
would just hang out for a couple hours like on top of the fence and huck to whatever
car ended up going by more often than not we'd hit the windshield they'd keep driving we're like
ha ha ha ha and then we wait for the next guy like three months of us doing this and that's always
been what what continues to happen we hit a guy in a truck and this guy fucking floors the
gets out and fucking chases us.
He climbs the fence.
So there's like six of us and five of us were able to sprint back to our homes in time.
One of them, I'm nine.
I'm not.
I'm panicking.
I'm like, this is the end of my life.
Like if my parents find out, it's over for me.
I'm going to fucking kid Guantanamo Bay, whatever that end of me.
One of my friends lived just far enough where the guy that was chasing us was able to see,
what house he went into so it goes over there and and we don't know what's happening at this point
because we're all cowering in our house but the story goes he goes in there he fucking is screaming
our friend cops up to everything he took the entire blame and he doesn't rat us out doesn't
rat out a single person like 12 years went by and we were still giving this kid props for it like
dude where we're not really friends anymore but i still remember when you didn't rat all of us
out you were the only one who got in trouble because of this dude that went fucking royd rage on us
and started chasing us because of the tomatoes that's a good friend
we need those ride or die guys we would go out and just get into mischief there really
wasn't much to do and we liked like i didn't want to damage property we never heard anybody's
cars we never did that we never heard anybody's house like we would never break a window out of
anything, but we would come and steal the pumpkins out of your yard and then hit mailboxes
with them at 60 miles per hour. I remember because there's lots of roads around Lake Hartwell
where... The mailbox thing, definitely, there's no way a mailbox isn't destroyed after a 60
mile on a pumpkin. Well, I destroyed more mailboxes than you would believe. We kept count for
a long time, but the number has to be approaching a thousand mailboxes. Like, it has to
to be. How many people lived in your
neighborhood, in your like area? Like
65? So you were just, they all had to
buy dozens.
But what we would do is
we would go out with this in mind.
Like this was a game we played.
Like we're going out getting some tonight.
And we would go get our rocks.
And then we would drive like half an hour from home
to like another, a neighboring county.
Or we would oftentimes go down around Lake Hartwell
where there are these
it's just these snake it looks like the roots of a tree the way those roads work how they just keep
branching off more and more and and you're there's no return it all comes back the same way oftentimes
and we just had this idea that like we're so far from the town that if someone calls the cops on us
by the time they it'll be 20 minutes before the cops can respond and the cops are going to be
responding to something way back behind us because we're not we're not coming back we're
making a loop through this whole area and we would take out like 50 mailboxes a night and i don't
mean dent them i mean obliterate them and it's so many mailboxes you got good at it you we wouldn't
miss it would like like i would throw them my left out of the driver's side he would throw them out of
you were driving yes yes we're not kids i'm we would go fill up with gas for this shit we go to the
boat ramps we go to the boat ramps and get those retaining um granite boulders
And they're about the size of a small watermelon, maybe a little smaller.
Somewhere between that and a candleloaf, I guess.
And we would fill my floorboard up with them until our knees were like up high.
Like we're standing on rocks.
And like, I mean, you hit one of people.
You'd have been so busted if the cops pulled you over.
Oh, yeah.
These rocks.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know anything about them.
Yeah, it's full on fess up mode.
And like, we kept escalating like what we were up to.
Like, I remember one night we stole a shopping cart.
from like the local grocery store and I had it I had it in the back up they got plenty and I had it
in the back of the truck and we're driving down the road going about whatever 4550 and I'm like
you drive because he didn't want to do the thing and so he drives the truck and I crawl out the
window in the back you know like there's a it's a single cab F150s there's a sliding window
between the driver and the passenger like at head level I crawl out that into the rear of the
truck while we're driving down the road. And I muscle the shopping cart up over my head going
like 40. And I hunk that at a mailbox. And I just remember this the sparks and the shit
exploding everywhere. Like when you're going 40 miles per hour and you throw something that weighs
40 or 50 pounds, it just has so much energy. It's shocking the amount of destruction you could do
with it. And then like we went up from there. We would go out in those those Lake Hartwell like
lake communities where a lot of the houses are vacation properties some nobody's at home and i remember
they would have the mailboxes for like 30 houses would all be together at the entrance to the
road so you wouldn't have to the mailman wouldn't have to go off into a community there would just be
this bank of mailboxes all side by side just sitting there completely unattended and i'm just out there
i pulled a mailbox out of the ground i pulled the whole mailbox posting all out of the ground and i'm
using it like a gigantic hammer
to hit the other mailboxes
just like one after another.
That sounds fun. I wish I would have
had more of that. It was so
much fun. If only
Raja Jackson had to use his rage
for this. Yes.
Kyle was BB
and those mailboxes were
children.
It was so much
and I had
I remember we went to Home Depot.
one time and I was looking at the mailboxes
and I'm like, ooh, that one's
40 bucks. We took out a lot
of them that looked like that. And then like the
regular ones are like $12. Like,
this is adding up to a lot of money
if we ever get caught, you know?
Like, but, but I always
had that in my head. Like if we get caught, like,
what are they going to do? Make us work all summer
like or something to earn back this money.
You know, we're teenagers. Like,
they're not going to send us to prison. Deliver the mail.
Maybe. Great.
I'd be down with that too. I was
willing to do whatever they were going to do to me. He was a mailbox enthusiast.
Clearly.
Don't throw me in the briar patch.
I would do it now. I remember the last time I did it when I was a little too old to do it.
And we, like I had been away in Atlanta and I came back home and like, hey, Scott, you want to hit
him up for one for old time's sake. He's like, man, I hadn't done that and then forever.
Let's go. And we're like 19 or 20.
Like riding around hitting me. And I was just like, I think we might be too old for this man.
He's like, yeah, we need to cut it out too.
I think we'll go to big boy jail if we get caught.
Yeah, yeah.
I think we're, yeah, there was a couple times when, like, people would take off after us.
Like, we'd hit a mailbox and they were in their yard, like, chilling.
And you could see them start sprinting toward their vehicle.
And, like, because they're going to chase us.
And that just made it so much more fun.
Like, like, now it's a chase.
Now we get, now I get to drive recklessly.
Man, I never did any major vandal stuff.
what pops in my head is like an example of the most egregious littering and like public disregard for safety, I can remember, which is when I was, I think it was after my first year of college or maybe halfway through that.
I was home for winter break or something.
And this guy I went to high school, who's a couple of years younger than us.
And people liked him because his family was literally the richest.
family i've ever known in my entire life by orders of magnitude like his house had a guest
house that was like a four bed four bath guest house uh he had a gigantic pool the biggest hot tub
i've ever seen he had two tennis courts two tennis courts as if his that his house have
pillars it was the biggest fucking house it was crazy and so he would think it was normal uh
No, he definitely leaned on people.
He's the same guy who he had season tickets to the blues from his dad.
And me and him and a couple other people went to a blues game once.
And he parked in like an area where I was like, we can't fucking park here.
It was like a cop's only area.
And he was like, I don't care.
I'll just show him the card.
And I'm like, what card?
And I guess he had a card that was like, my father donates bananas,
his amounts of money to the police union.
And so, like, we parked, got out.
And, like, there are cops already side-eyeing us.
And he just walked up and was, like, showed them this card.
And they were like, oh, you guys have, enjoy the game.
It's going to be a great.
And I was like, oh, my God.
This is crazy.
The amount of access this guy can buy.
But it was after a party at his house.
And he, for some reason, the next morning was like, it was only a few of us left and we were
going to go get chick-fil-y or something like that.
And he was like, I have to throw away all the glass bottles and everything, or the maid will see it.
And she'll tell my dad that we were like being bad and drinking and everything.
And I was like, okay, I guess that might make sense, but there's like, there's cocaine on your table.
Like there's still like what the fuck, like the level, whatever.
And so he like put all these glass bottles in like a giant black trash bag.
And then he was driving me and two of our other buddies in his car to Chick-fil-A.
And I was like, why did he bring a giant black trash bag of glass bottles in the car?
Like, why not just throw it?
You think your dad, you're like borderline billionaire dad is going to be checking the garbage.
Like, why would you do this?
And then we were just on a public road.
And he was like, time to get rid of it.
And he just took this bag and pushed it out the window.
I could, like, hear the, like, shattering of hundreds of bottles.
And, like, the, like, his, the two people in the back were kind of his feelings on place.
You're like, my fingerprints are on those.
The two people in the back were kind of his, like, goon friends who were always there for him no matter what.
You are a prospective goon.
And I didn't know them.
I didn't know this side of them very well.
And I was just like, oh, Jesus.
Like, what are we just through?
And I remember sitting there.
And he's like, what are you going to get from Chick-fil-A, Taylor?
Because he had like a very, like, vocal fry voice.
And I was just like, oh, man, spicy chicken.
Like, what the fuck?
Like, why did we do that?
There were so many available options that didn't involve throwing
a hundred empty Budlight bottles to be glass.
And then, like, on the way back from Chick-fil-A,
we, like, see some, like, public service person,
like having to scoop all this shit up because it's like out of a car at 48 miles an hour
whatever on that road and so it like it's a huge amount of space now it's not just like a pile
of shattered bottles it's a ton of it so I don't know what that guy's up to now he uh he
comes from so much money uh and I didn't know until I was like an adult it was like how did
your dad like make that much money like a like I think he was like a nine figure level wealth guy
when I knew him. And I think now he might be like his dad might be a real billionaire. And it was
junk mail. What? He is the junk mail guy. All the fucking horse shit you get in your mailbox is
facilitated through his service. All the nonsense. All the horse shit. Like he made hundreds of millions
of dollars annoying people. One of the wealthier people I know, I've talked about him before, but he made all
as money on those alternative phone books, you know, like, oh yeah, you guys might be young for
this, but it's like the yellow paid is that everyone knew, but like the Donnelly directory and the
other like unnamed ones, they were better phone books. At least that was the idea. You know,
they had color the the phone book divisions, like which towns it covered was based on where the
utility lines were. But maybe if you think about your own town, there are different like road
dividers that
form like informal
like this is as far as I go before I shop
I never cross route 64 whatever
that is these train tracks
might form a kind of divider
in your town that the utility lines don't respect
but the phone books get it right
that it's the alternative ones
the uh this thing
my story doesn't hang with your guys but
when I was 17 the first year you can drive
in New Jersey we had a real knack
a talent for timing the traffic lights
in Ocean City, New Jersey.
And we would use this power for bad.
And we would be like, ooh, that thing, like, just turned green.
So we go like 17 and a 25 for the next four blocks.
We'll make the yellow light and fuck this guy behind us.
So we did that all the time.
They'd be like frustrated.
They'd flip us the high beams.
And then when the yellow light caught them, they knew what the scoop was.
We've been fucking with them for four blocks to make them catch a red light.
until one time this dude i'm gonna call him like a 38 year old man kind of finish ran the red light
and then just starts getting aggressive with us pulling in front of us now he's going slow he's
alphaing us and it was me and my friend and we thought we were like tough 17 year olds he's like
five foot nothing um until that was tested and now we're both like yeah i don't want to and the guy even
pulls up he's like doing one of these deals to see if we wanted to fight and I'm like I really don't want to
we thought it would be funny I'm sorry this is a variation of the tomato guy that chased me
snowball story like it was that you could have told it it was that was similar and in the end he
kind of oh oh we got to another red light we got stopped at a red light and he got
out of his car, like to walk to
ours. So I just drove
elsewhere while he was on foot
and that's where the story ends.
My friend was like,
I don't know. I feel like we were
kind of pussies. We have like
fought him, taken our beating
and I'm like, nah, I think I made the right
call. Yeah. A hundred percent
made the right call. Not letting some 38-year-old
beat you to death.
Right. I can go all Rajah Jackson
on it. Yeah.
In the moment, it feels bad making those
decisions but like in the long term you made the right call i uh had a moment in a bar i'm like
23 at this point and i don't know what got through me but like i i got aggressive that night and
i i'm not a fighter like i i don't know how to fucking fight but i got into it with this guy
um and we started yeah at yapping at each other clear hockey bro because he was he was very good at
insults they're usually very good at that and i had no come back i had no come back to his really
what he wouldy insults so i i was like all right let's fucking go he's like all right let's
fucking go i'm like oh no he was hoping it was hoping so i and this is like close to like the
middle of the dance floor i grab his hat and i throw it across the bar and i was like please go for it
please go find your hat please go find your hat so he's like i'll be right back goes to find his
hat and i fucking dart out of there i'm like i'm not getting in this goodbye
That's a high IQ maneuver because otherwise he would have if he was a hockey guy,
he would like pulled your shirt over your head and then punching you in the face.
Yeah.
No, you don't want that.
No, I'm so glad he went for his ad.
The guy who's wanting a fight.
Dude, I remember it.
I felt like Jason Bourne.
I threw his hat.
He went for it.
I took off my sweater and I went to the side so that now I had a different shirt.
So now it's blending with the masses inside of pants.
You're quickly shaping.
I felt like a giant bitch in the moment.
I think I was, but I made the right call.
He comes back up to you.
You're like, no, I get to fight another day.
I look like brutal people.
I'm not going to fight unless I know I can win.
We're not about to like put our dupes up at this bar.
I was 100% going to lose.
I've seen too many YouTube videos.
I literally just watched a video today
where one guy knows how to fight
and the other guy does it
and it becomes so apparent right away
it becomes so apparent right away
he's like popping in and like jabbing him in the nose
and then getting distance
and he's like, oh oh you're bleeding a little huh?
He comes back in one two.
Oh ho ho ho! Oh how'd you like a little teep kick to the gut?
And the other guy like doesn't he can't read the room
I guess and just ends up the shit beating out of him.
You get beaten death in the streets
if you fuck up with the wrong person
because, like, maybe they don't do the gentlemanly thing
and get off you after you're unconscious.
Maybe they slam your head into the concrete.
A hockey guy would, though.
A hockey guy fighter isn't going to beat you up
once you're on the ground.
They already, like, getting you on the ground.
Oh, the ref will get in there.
And the hockey world is winning.
Like, you, that was the win point.
Sometimes that's a bad measure, though, right?
Like, a guy clearly wins on the feet,
but the other guy wins the takedown.
the guy that wins the takedown is usually defined as the fight winner but it that's true because
you're I dislike that when I'll see like hockey fight highlights and it's like some dude just
feeding a guy like eight fists and then the guy getting fed like leans on him and happens to
take him down because you're you're still on ice it's hard to balance and then they'll be like
oh you know oh Stevenson like took him down at the end so he's kind of the winner
it's like no like you can see his teeth like this guy like panicked and like tried to drag him to the ground because he was being beaten so handily that that was his only option yeah can you decline a fight in hockey like at the pro level do you just say nah uh yes the way it works in pro hockey is and usually the decline is because like they have someone like me out there my skill level being like hey soon
Sidney Crosby, pussy, you want to fight?
And then I'll drop my gloves and try and incite something with a Sidney Crosby level guy.
And Sidney Crosby will just skate away.
And no one in that circumstance is like, whoa, Sidney Crosby's a pussy.
Everyone understands.
It's like, no, that was some goon retard trying to bait one of the best players on Earth into spending five minutes in the box.
And he correctly skated away.
But if you're a goon and that's your role, you cannot turn down a fight.
unless you want to spend the rest of your career in the minors.
I saw a goon.
I hate to call that.
But yeah, I saw a goon and then Forcer talking about how, like, what fighting was like.
And it resonated with me so well because he said, maybe in school, you knew you had a fight coming to you at the end of the day.
But that guy was going to be waiting for you at the bike racks.
Well, that's how it felt for me when I was playing the Montreal, Canadian.
that night. I knew
that I was going to fight with their
enforcer. It was coming.
And I have all the same butterflies
in anxieties and
fear and it would eat me up
inside. I don't know. I might win.
I'm a fighter too.
But there's no assurances and I'm definitely
getting hit. And I was
surprised because
they seem
outwardly to care as much
about fighting as I do about a cloudy
day. That it's just a casual
whatever no big you want to yeah i was thinking about let's do it and but inside it chewed them up just
like it does high school kids yeah and it's scarier than ever because like i think uh mma or ufc rather
becoming so big like in the 80s an enforcer was just a big guy who didn't mind getting hit and
wanted to throw hands to be like all right i'm going to protect my guy gretsky that's what my job is here
now like you had enforcers like Ryan Reeves who were like trained boxers too and so you could see that I remember I saw a clip of Joe Rogan reacting where he's like oh my god like that this hockey guy like he's turning his hand correctly this guy knows how to fight this guy knows how to punch and so now it's like fighting is even though it's a bit rarer it's more dangerous because none of the people fighting are yeah exactly the skill level so much higher
None of the people fighting are just big bruisers.
Like, a lot of them also have boxing training and fight experience.
So I just had a great idea.
So we know about the slap fighting thing that the UFC is pumping money into.
I think that's awful.
It's pretty gay.
Why do they get?
Bigger than soccer and hockey combined.
So there's a new sport where they do leg kicks.
They trade leg kicks back and forth and just stand and take them.
It's called the Joe Lozahn family barbecue.
I've seen it in person.
like kicking each other like eating brats like ah you son of a bitch literally
I wouldn't eat that I'd be so upset I'm trying to watch a sport I definitely shouldn't
participate if you watch a sport that's nothing but hockey fights like put them in their
hockey gear and it's but it's a fight on ice I would watch it briefly but like I wouldn't
invent like I want to because it's a different martial art marks of fighting is what makes
it good I think it's its own martial art in a world
one. Yeah. It's over as soon as the takedown happens. So much of it is about controlling your
clothing. Actually, you know what's close to a hockey fight? Like those medieval Russian
MMA fights, those are kind of close to what hockey fights are like, except like not on ice.
Yeah. I mean, the ice part is what really defines the hockey fight. It's like you can't
you can't really do anything once you go to the ground
without it being incredibly dangerous in hockey
because you have blades on your feet.
You can't be picking around.
You can go for like three points.
Take downs a point.
KOs obviously like fights over.
But like every time you take them down,
you stand them up again, like over and over.
So you got three points.
Oh, okay.
Double points for goalie fights.
Oh, that'd be a division.
That'd be a different division.
Yeah.
I would love the goalie division.
That would be so funny.
goalie fights are so hype because like they just look at each other from across the
because regular hockey fights just happened kind of like in the spur of the moment right at a face off
but like goalie fights are like a special event has been unlocked because there's usually a brawl
happening and then the goalies are just like what if we're gonna fucking do over here they start
yapping at each other and then they have to go the entire length of the ring to fight so it's like
And in my mind, I'm like, done, done, da, done, done, and they get closer to each other.
That to me is the peak of hockey, a goalie fight.
I love a goalie fight.
You just need to make sure that there's, and what I love a lot about goalie fights is it's always, or at least 95% of the time, one goalie who really, really, really wants to be in a physical altercation and another goalie who's like, well, if it happens, it happens, I'm no, I'm no pussy.
It's how it usually goes.
You have like a Ron Hextall or a Patrick Waugh or one of these guys who's a lunatic who actually wants to cause physical harm to the other guy.
And the other guy just doesn't want to seem like a pussy.
And so then he has to skate over and do it.
And it's great with goleys because even amongst like NHL players, like the stereotype of goleys is that they're the weirdest person on the team to a to a complete degree.
Like they'll ask and be like, you know, oh, I hear a, yeah, the whole Calgary.
grie flames you guys are playing a lot of fortnight what is the the goalie play and they'll be like
oh he is um he's good guy but he is um he's uh weird he's weird he's weird guy you know he
read books about i don't know some dictator in 30s germany i don't keep up but he read lots
of things like he's they're just they're weirdos and so seeing them put in a position
where they have to defend themselves physically is entertaining i don't think it would do
well as a sport because there's not enough
legs for it like the
entire
the fact you can't do
anything once someone is brought to the ground
wrecks any kind of
MMA fight thing like or I guess
not fully because that's what boxing is right
like boxing when they fall they have
to stand back up lots of stuff is yeah
lots of stuff stands you back up
maybe you're right then
wait is UFC the only one that doesn't stand you back up
no
well I mean there's different
mixed martial arts organizations that have a very similar rule set to UFC, but it's full
contact and then ground game as well. But of the stricter disciplines, judo goes to the ground.
I think they have 30 or 60 seconds and then they stand them up, but they fight on the ground
for a minute. Oh, okay. I thought judo was like about throwing people to the ground and then you
got points on like, ha ha, you're on the ground. Once you down there, you follow them down and do stuff
to, though. I don't know the rules exactly.
I think it depends on the position they
land in whether or not they have a minute
or two, a minute to go, or
they just get the
points for the way they'll take down went.
I don't know the rules exactly.
Interesting.
I don't know why Muaytai isn't more popular
in the U.S. because it's like,
it's UFC with no ground game.
And the practitioners are
nasty. I remember
this story. I don't remember the guy's names, but this one
guy had gone to, like, Thailand.
and trained for like months.
And he came back and he was telling everybody he was Bangkok ready.
He'd only been going for like a month or two.
Roundtree, I think.
And he came back with like that head dress that they wear.
They like have this like knotted rope on their head.
And they got like he had the like the bicep wraps too.
Like he's got these these ceremonial thing.
And he came out and put on such a spectacle that the other guy was terrified of him.
And just down to the ground like immediately.
Like he wasn't even that good.
And he was Khalil Roundtree.
And he really leveled up his game.
And a lot of people might suggest it wasn't the four weeks of moitai training,
although that was part of it.
It was the four weeks of no USADA testing that really leveled up his game.
And in Thailand,
you can find what's, I think, the closest thing to the current Roman Coliseum,
because there is like a tourist attraction where they've got some monstrous beast of a Muay fighter.
And it's like, what tourists would like to get in here?
And if you happen to beat our champion, you win whatever, a thousand bots.
I don't know if that's like 50 bucks.
But I can't imagine the idea of like, I'm enjoying a sunny weekend in Bangkok.
Let me jump into the ring here with this monster who hasn't been eating white people,
Canadians, French people all day.
Just drunk guys.
He's just fighting drunk guys who are like, I can.
probably do this.
People do it.
And the Muay Thai fighter
wins by as much
as he has to,
but no more.
Like it's a respectable win.
Like he could kill you.
But he understands.
He's in a tickle fight with a toddler.
You don't kill that kid.
He's putting on a show
because he wants there to be an episode
of the show next week when he's there.
Like he doesn't want to kill anyone.
He doesn't want to make it so no one else plays.
One of my very close friends.
The guys usually slap.
Halfing half of the time.
They slap a lot?
No, no, no, sorry.
I didn't mean to cut you off to the lie.
I was saying that the Muay Thai guy,
more often than not when he's fighting,
what is usually a drunk guy,
is like smiling.
He's like,
I'm having a good time here too.
Okay.
Yeah,
and he'll probably even like minimize the damage.
He'll like give a little foe hit to be like,
you know,
that could have been devastating
what I just did to you right there,
but it's not because this is a tourist.
And if you prove you have talent,
I will too.
Yeah.
My close buddy went to Thailand probably six or seven years ago, and he's the one who was obsessed with MMA for a while.
Former Marine, I went and watched a couple of his amateur fights.
And he was like, oh, Thailand was crazy, dude.
Like, I went to, like, I did this, like, fight camp where I had to go to this gym every morning and they, like, grind you into dust.
They work you so hard.
And then there would be shows at the gym every night.
and people are sitting around bedding and drinking and doing Thailand things and he's like and they
would be like two adults boy i don't know they're just doing Thailand things and he's like and there
be like two like grown adults who are like kicking the shit out of each other and then that ends
and then i swear to god like two seven-year-old Thai kids get up there and i was like oh this is
probably like america it's going to be like a cute exhibition match and he's like no dude
I saw a seven-year-old head kick another seven-year-old unconscious, like just in the, just brutal.
Wow.
Brutalization.
And I was like, oh, man, that's crazy.
What else did you do in Thailand?
He's like, it was a lot of drinking and fighting.
And those guys really know how to party.
Oh, yeah.
Well, listen, even with all of that stuff, as crazy as that is, it's still nowhere near as stupid as power slap.
power slap is is still the dumbest thing that I've ever seen how that is the
gay shit imaginable yeah I uh I had to laugh because um uh Dana White was talking about like
hey those guys you know those athletes if you're not good enough to get into real fighting
and then if you're not good enough to get into the WWE power slap just come over here
come make shit loads of money I'm cares like loads of money he's saying that they are
making shit loads of money that was his is obo's word
for word quote that you can come to the power
slot. I noticed you didn't use any
like formal denominations
of money. All the
pesos. How many like can we
put some metrics on this? Ah, two shitloads
and a bundle of money.
Yeah, I would never do that.
I can't imagine doing that.
The people that do it, I don't
get it. There's not enough money involved.
It boggles
the mind to see them
taking that much brain damage for
like $10,000 or something.
Yeah, if you win, Zach says
it's like 10 grand. That's crazy.
But below that, he says, reports
indicate payments can be around
2,000 to 2,000 per fight.
We've narrowed in on that sentence.
There's our shit load.
It started 2,000, but on the upside, you could be making
anywhere, you know, $2,000.
It's crazy.
A lot of room to grow.
I'm curious, like, with UFC fighters,
how much pay is going to go down with the paramount deal
because in WWE, they used to do pay-per-views
and the top stars, the rocks, the stone-colds,
all the big names, they'd get pay-per-view points,
just like UFC fighters.
But then they went to a streaming model in 2013,
and that disappeared.
They were not making their pay-per-view points.
The big names were then, like, their base pay was increased,
but pay-per-view points were completely thrown out the windows.
I'm curious in UFC how that's going to go over if they do remove paper viewpoints, although I believe you can, you're still going to have to buy some of the cards.
I've heard that too.
I don't think so.
I've heard that, but I haven't seen that from anywhere official.
What I've seen is that they'll get, the Paramount gets everything.
They get, and four fights a year are broadcast simulcast on CBS.
Is it CBS that that's part of the Paramount thing?
I think so.
So four fights a year
will be simulcast
not only on pay-per-view
but on CBS and ESPN
and all that
but I haven't seen anything
to suggest that there will be
any more pay-per-views
at all going forward.
I wonder if they're going to
raise the price of Paramount Plus.
I have it.
I love it.
It's got all my Star Trek content
and a bunch of other shit too.
But I don't really care
about the fighters.
If their pay goes down,
it's better for the fans.
So for fans,
this is nothing but positives.
This is great.
We're going to get everything for one low price.
The current model is pay for an ESPN subscription,
which is $12 a month.
I bundle it with Hulu and Disney,
so I can't even quantify exactly what it cost me,
just for the privilege to access their $80 pay-per-views,
which is bonkers.
It's a terrible business model.
For fans, this is going to be great.
This is going to open the UFC up, make it bigger.
There'll be more eyes than there have ever been before,
and then they're going to cap it off
I don't know when it actually kicks in
when the first iteration of this will be
when the last pay-per-view will be
but that White House card next year
if that happens
if they have an octagon
on the lawn of the White House
which is what they keep repeating
that is going to be enormous
and they will dig up a star of old
they will get a Connor McGregor
or a John Jones
I know that Dana has been
super anti-John Jones
but I think he's just mad
about what happened and a year
can heal all wounds, I
think, especially if John doesn't want 30
mil to fight on the white. Maybe he's like,
yeah, John, $3 million.
$3 million you can be on the White House card. Sure.
You'll get $3 million,
but we're not breaking the bank.
We're not bringing the Saudis in to help finance
your purse. You work
for what everybody else works for.
His problems with Jones were pretty legit, though.
Huge. He's not reliable
to headline a big card.
It never has been. He won't
be more reliable for this
Connor bring the eyeballs
has flaws and he's not
American for the White House fight
but he
did always show up
Connor will have no issue with immigration
you know that first of all like he's been to the White House
he he he vibes
right wing and anti-immigration
in Ireland and his little bid for
presidency there
he's plugged into the American
conservative network and
like Trump you know because we're
at the White House, that's gonna take care of everything.
Trouble just be like, oh, we'll get him in here.
Well, I'll go pick him up.
It wasn't immigration, it was just the idea
that the White House should have Americans fighting.
Oh, well, they gotta face off against somebody.
Yeah, right.
Is he gonna be the heel, maybe?
Yeah, he is the heel.
He's my heel.
If I watch Connor McGregor now,
it's not to see if Mystic Mac is back.
It's to watch him get his leg broke again.
It's to watch him, it's to watch a spoiled,
a spoiled, coked up philander
sex abuser get put on his
ass. That's why I'm watching now.
I used to watch because Mystic Mac knew
what was coming. He could see the cards before
they were dealt. He didn't
just know when he would beat you and how he would beat you
or that he would beat you. He knew how he would beat you.
He'd explained it to you
in days prior. It was
amazing. I love it. With that
White House card and
sorry coming from the wrestling side of
things, would you need to work that
so that America comes out on top?
You can't have the White House card.
100%. They would have to.
They can't have the White House card and have, you know, Cosmots celebrating.
When they do a London card, the British fighters are the favorites in almost every fight, if not every single fight.
When they do a Japanese card, you know, go out to Tokyo and put on a fight, suddenly the Japanese fighters look great.
It's not fixed.
I'm not saying it's fixed.
Just that they put an A tier against a C tier, B tier against a D tier.
That's classic in Brazil.
Yeah, right, in Brazil, Mexico.
It goes all the way through.
So when they do the White House card,
I would expect that they're not putting Americans as underdogs very often.
Put Gaichi in there, Connor.
Let him smoke him.
Let Gaichi break his fucking face.
I was going to be like, are we sure?
But, dude, Conner's so out of it now.
If Connor could hit Gaichie, he doesn't have the power to KO Gaichi.
So he's going to have to wheel kick Gaichy to get him out of there.
And even then, I don't know.
I don't know what Connor's power is.
He's a brick shit house now.
He looks strong.
I don't know.
Sure.
Connor's still scary.
I still think he loses to every fighter in the UFC.
Yeah, Gachie destroys.
Every male fighter beats Connor.
Gachie would hit Connor harder than he's ever been hit before.
Gachie would starch Connor.
That's what would happen, I think.
Gachie would get in there with a big looping punches and nullify any range advantage
Connor might have.
It's not like he fights into that karate stance anyway.
I don't even know what his stance is.
Last time I saw him, his stance was my leg don't work.
I mean, your wife's in me DMs.
Like, he was, he crippled his last time out.
Gaichi is a lightweight.
I thought Connor was a different weight, right?
So people move around as their careers mature.
Connor started out at 145 pounds.
Gaichi has primarily fought at 155 pounds.
Connor was the 155 and 145-pound champion.
He has fought most recently at sort of a quasi-catch weight of 170,
because he's probably walking around 180 or 190.
I don't even know what he is these days,
because it's been years of steroids, cocaine, and just getting beefy.
So he'll fight, they'll just make up a weight, though, to get Connor there.
Like, it won't need to be within a division.
Rankings are irrelevant.
Connor McGregor's coming.
At what weight would he like to compete?
Okay, 185 it is.
You know, they'll just do that.
Okay.
Oh, you know, Connor versus DuPlee.
DuPlessy.
DuPlessy.
That reminds me.
I try to get back into UFC.
I used to be really, really deep into it.
And I chose the Cosmod and DDP card.
It was good until the end.
Oh, the card was great, but, dude, that main event,
that was a frustrating watch.
It was just, and maybe it's because I don't have the love for the game
and understand the science behind it,
but I'm like, this fucking sucks.
So there's layers to that, right?
Because there are people who see any ground game stuff.
it went just high level
jujitsu and they'll poo poo it
they're like come on get up a bunch
that's not me
I like high level jujitsu
I watch jujitsu on YouTube a good bit
that uh that uh Ryan Gordon guy
or whatever his name is
I enjoy watching him fucking roll
even if it's an exhibition
it's fun
um but but what comzat was doing
was very lay and prey
to his benefit
in his defense
du plesi was so big and strong
that I it was hard for him to work
make damage
of a crucifix that would have been deadly to a smaller, weaker man.
Like, DuPlessi was able to, like, turn his head to the side and avoid most of the damage
from that really advantageous position that is a crucifix.
It's as bad as it sounds.
And he just weathered him well because he's so big and strong and has such a gas tank.
Anybody else would have been worn out and beaten down and cut apart and smashed.
Because that's what Comzot usually does to people.
He gets them out of there in nine.
90 seconds. He gets them out of the whole thing in the first round. But DuPlessy was a champion and a good
one at that is clearly his wrestling takedown leaves something to be desired though. And like he
couldn't get up. He couldn't get up. You know, I think that he was like eight for 11 on takedowns
or nine for 11, something like that. He took him down at will, kept him down. If, if DDP had been getting
up, he could have been fucking 25 takedowns for 30 or something. Like, he's, he's,
was going to just keep taking him down.
But I'm with you.
The lay and pray nature of it,
the fact that nothing was seemingly happening
for huge amounts of time.
Around us five minutes.
He'd get him down within 40 seconds.
And then the next three and a half minutes
is just like, all right.
All right.
Stare at this guy's ass crack for a while
while he tries to face fuck the other guy.
Okay, okay, nothing's happened.
No one's been hurt.
All right.
Comes out one's another round.
Let's see what they say in the corner.
it was dreadful to watch
even for I watch all the events
I consider myself an MMA
fan and that's not it for me
that's that that soured me against
the whole sport if I'm being honest
I like it really did
it's I like your game of throne season eight
dude he's he's like a
it was a red wedding moment
like that was DDP's the great white
hope most the whole UFC's being
taken over by these
caucus region fellows we'll say
well they're still white
they're just
they have
beards we don't care for
they have beards
we don't care for
I don't care for
that kind of beard
if I see that kind of beard
I want to know
a friendly Amish guy
not some fucking
Russian Muslim
they uh
speaking of what
what he was suggesting
earlier how
when they want to get
into a market
they'll
they'll sort of
they'll put a matchup
together
that is advantageous
to getting that market
to be happy
so China is where
the UFC wants to be
they've got Wei
she's like
a 125 pound women's
champion and a good one. She's one of the few female fighters in the world that I look at.
I'm like, oh, shit, that's an athlete. She's snappy with her movements. She's, she's technical.
She's, she's, like, she's not getting wild ever. She's a machine. This is a well-trained,
like, a professional athlete, but there aren't many of those. The other one, they're trying to
get, there, there's a Chinese guy who's like, three and O or four-and-o or something like that.
Well, they were like, ha, let's feed Johnny Walker to him.
Johnny Walker is the guy who blew his own shoulder out doing the worm that time.
Like he's known to be a goofball and a knucklehead.
Well, pre-fight Johnny Walker shaves off the top part of his beard like Kamzat.
He goes only chin beard and he's like,
It's good time.
And it just destroys the Chinese guy in front of his crowd.
I don't know how much money Dana White lost in that moment,
but it's not substantial.
That Chinese market would be worth so much money.
and to have goofballed Johnny Walker
come in there and just start your
like great yellow hope
it was a bad look
I mean there's fucking one and a half billion
of them I'm sure one of the Chinamen can fight really well
it's not working out well for them it's seemingly
most of their fighters are of the ethnic minorities
um like the Mongolian looking folks or
or the South Chinese those are the biggest of the Asians
is my understanding are the Mongols
like as far as like a height weight average
is like they're pretty
I don't know
maybe like they're
maybe they bred enough with the Russians
because I think Russians are tall
isn't that right?
Like maybe it can be.
Yeah it depends man
China when they decide to put their mind
into a sport
they'll put in a generation
worth of effort and they say
we'll see you in 20 years
and then 20 years will go by
and they will dominate this.
So MMA's weird in China
because they have that
their traditional Chinese martial arts
that they want to hang their hats on
all that spiritual fucking
Wang Ching
Qing Wang stick fighting
and that those fucking
what do you call it
when you do the the kata with that
wooden thing
Tai Bo
is that Wing Chung or something
sure wing chung maybe
and Tai Chi and like they've got all
they've got a lot of
they've got a lot of like self-defense
and spiritual-esque martial arts
that and they didn't wait
they're behind the curve we we learned in like
1992 whenever the UFC really
took off, that that was all horse shit. We learned that wrestling, jujitsu, and boxing were the only
martial arts you really needed, mix in a couple techniques from Muay Thai and you're there. They're still
on that spiritual mumbo-jumbo shit where every now, there's this YouTube guy, he's an MMA guy,
and he just goes around beating up Chinese kung fu masters. That's his whole bit. You just watch a 75-year-old
Asian man get fucking knocked the fuck out by a 30-year-old MMA star. And it's like,
Like, yeah, eat it. Eat your fucking teeth.
What's crazy with those is that like these old masters have no like self-preservation.
They hang their hat on this like magical thing, this magical veil that's going to protect them only to just get their nose caved in.
Yeah.
It is crazy.
They seem to believe their own bullshit.
Like if I was fighting 12 people at a time using the force and they all fell down, I think I'd know the inside.
scoop they seemingly don't yeah yeah i mean after 60 years of that maybe you do start to drink your
own coolade where you're like tell a lie like like this guy in particular was after the fact he's become
a joke in china apparently and he uh they don't really know if he's in on the joke anymore or not
because he's like oh he only hit me because i let him he only hit me because i let my god down
like like all these like silly excuses about why because because it wasn't an it wasn't a fight
like the other guy walked up to him and punched him
it I mean it was a fight it was like all right
fight and the and the MMA guy just walks up
and he was wham
and it's like knocks him on his ass and that's it
his defense was the force you can imagine
how it went
yeah
you just make fucking
you just make palpatine fingers
at someone and hope it works out
you're pretty close yeah
dude what if what if he got
which by the way in Star Wars
an actual lightning had came out of his hands
like I'd be on board then
Has there ever been, like, a bigger flub than, like, not telling Luke about the lightning?
That's a dark side of the force power, seemingly.
No one said anything.
They were like, you must be careful around Vader, Luke.
He is unbelievably powerful.
He's great with the lightsaber.
And then, like, later that night, like, Obi-Wan's, like, waking up, like,
should I have mentioned the lightning finger?
I probably should have mentioned that
it's a big part of his strategy
I don't think Vader had lightning fingers right
Emperor Palpatine yeah
because if I were Luke I would have been like
whoa this guy's like way stronger than I am
yeah he didn't react to it at all
when the emperor first does it and like shocks him so badly
he collapses in pain he wasn't like
the fuck was that
oh it burns dad
What was that?
This is how they keep you from joining our side.
They don't tell you about the cool lightning ability.
That would have been like 17-year-old Woody.
Nope.
No.
No, this is gay.
I would have pulled the thing I did at the nightclub.
I would have taken his helmet and thrown it and changed outfits.
He couldn't find it.
Throw his helmet, run the other way.
Take off your cloak.
That's the move.
I'm watching Andor right now, which is the Star Wars.
It's the prequel to Rogue One.
It's basically the, it's like political and it's like a spy thriller where they're trying
to, what it's going to end up being is they're acquiring the plans for the Death Star that eventually
Princess Leia sends on to Obi-1 Kenobi and Luke when they're sitting there and the hologram pops up.
You're only hope, you're only hope, Obi-One.
It's trying to get those Death Star plans to them, but it's two seasons.
I watched it when it came out and I thought it was boring and slow.
I think I was just in a bad mood or a funk or something because I've been,
just binge watching it this week and it's so good it's really good it's it's not a kids show and i'm
loving that so much and it's not overly woke like there there isn't a coven of black lesbian
witches making force children which is a thing you're not even making that up that was a thing
that's a thing um in this it's like you've got cassian and d'or and like he's he's like undercover
secret agent man and if the if the empire catches him they're going to torture him to death so anytime
he's in a tight spot, somebody sees his face. Some guy starts talking like, hey, we could just
take the money and leave, me and you. They're in there dealing with their shit. 40 million
a piece, eh? He quick draws his fucking blaster pistol and shoots them in the face. And he's the good
guy. And I love that. I love that it's dark and it's gritty and it's, nobody's got the force.
There's no force lightning. There's no magic. There's no Jedi. They mentioned the emperor a couple
times, but it's kind of the way we mentioned Trump.
It's like, ah, the emperor
will be hearing of this personally.
We don't see him. We don't see any bullshit.
It's just political
drama, like,
and where they're trying to, like,
raise money for the rebellion to be.
The rebellion's just getting off of its,
getting off, getting going.
And it's, it's like spy shit.
And I like the spy shit a lot.
I know how it ends because
Rogue One is the end
of this story. The movie, Rogue One,
and I think I'm like four episodes into season two
there's 12 episodes per season
but I highly recommend it I know I shit on it when it came out
but I gave it another chance and it's great it's great
is Rogue One the one you liked
I feel like you liked one of the new Star Wars movie right
It's my favorite Star Wars movie
It's my favorite Star Wars movie too
It's uh it's and again it's because there's not
I think Vader shows up at the end
Oh that's the best part of the movie
It's not but like that
Because they save him for the end
Oh fucking hell dude
that's such a fan service moment an earned fan service moment because that's coming down that hallway
oh fuck yeah dude they've got the plans and like the hallways full of the good guys and we've got like
the secret plans and we got to get them like back down that hallway but vader's coming for us and he's
forced choking people he's slamming them into walls he's cutting them in half with his lightsaber
he's just steady walking through men while they're just like giving their lives so that the plans can make it
a foot further, a soldier further as the, as the, you know, try to get them out of there.
That was a great scene.
Yeah, I'm a huge sucker for-
Who, there's a, there's a, it's a, it's, it's, I think it's Jude law.
I think it, I know what you're talking about, like a big cameo with one of those soldiers.
I think it is Jude law.
I was going to say the, so I'm a sucker for the droids.
And in movies, the things that'll make me, like, tear up and really cry, um, are pets.
who are like there for their master like giving it all giving it what all they got and you know maybe
getting hurt or dying for their master and those star wars droids which are essentially
robo dogs that love you with personalities like the droid in andor has a stutter and and and like
the cassian andor is always a way doing spy shit and the droid he's like well where's cassian
that is Cassian
coming home?
Like he's you know
like he's like
cute
I'm like I hope nothing happens
to that droid and like halfway through it
somebody kicks him over and I'm like
oh no you didn't
you did not kick that fucking droid
he is a champion
like they've they've raped
they're like trying to rape women
they're like murdering children
and hanging people in the public square
but when they slap the droid around
they hurt the droids feelings that was a bit too far it was too far because they're just like it's
they're like pure on the inside like they're just good um but there's a really good droid in rogue one
that big tall like yeah yeah yeah um yeah those are those are always the moments that that
have me fucking tearing up and crying over there's a hide my tears from my girlfriend because i'm
crying over fucking bb8 there's a movie i haven't seen much of it but it reminded me
me when you were saying you know like you feel for animals and movies and shows and
whatnot there's a movie called good boy the premise of this dude i'm so psyched for that
i want to see this really bad for those that that are listening that i don't know i the simple
premise is a dog that you guys you you live in a haunted house with the dog and only the dog
sees the ghouls and demons and he has no way to communicate to the humans that they're that they
are in a house full of the little boys from the grudge
yeah like there's like a demon infestation or something like that i didn't watch too much of the trailer
because i don't i i watch enough of a trailer that i'm iffy about to be like oh i'm in and then i'll
turn it off because i want any spoilers yeah i want to see what the same thing i did the same thing
with weapons the one with all the kids go missing that one i'm saving that one that's going to be
good movie too i'm into i love horror but good boys i'm i'm into that i'm into that i'm into that i'm
into that i know i'm going to be tearing up if anything happens to that fucking dog it's like even the
trailer like you sort of running around with the dog his POV yeah yeah what he's seeing it and you're like
oh get out of there boy have you uh gotten a chance to see the new naked gun yet no i'll watch it
when it's like free to watch like it's worth it dude if you like the old naked gun movies if you like
slapstick comedy i do i i was howling laughing in the theater there were jokes where it's like
oh every male over 30 is laughing
like across the theater
I don't want to ruin a bit for you
because if you're going to watch it
but I think it's
I think it's a watch if you like that style of humor
I really like the first three
I watched them all
I was the right age at the time
where like I was into Weird Out Yankovic
and just parody in general
and he's in this movie. That's great. And I like Leslie Nielsen a lot. I didn't see Airplane until I was a man, a mangrown, but as a kid, I liked the naked gun movies. I like those a lot. I like Leslie Nielsen. I like his, he used to be a dramatic actor. And if you go back, there's a, there's several, I watch him in a dramatic role playing it serious, and I can't take him seriously because he's Leslie Nielsen. He's goofy to me. He's airplane. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's
He's lethal weapon.
So yeah, I'm going to watch it.
Liam Neeson's a great choice for that.
And I guess Pam Anderson's having a bit of a career revival.
So I'm happy to see her in it too.
I don't know how true this is.
I just took it at face value from my girlfriend.
Okay, so that is true.
They start dating because of the filming of Naked Gunn?
That's kind of cute, man.
I think he had been single for a long time because of the death of his wife, right?
Yeah.
His wife died and he'd been single for like 15 or 20 years or something.
and they've started dating
he and Pam Anderson,
which is kind of a sweet story.
Keanu Reeves is a similar situation
where I believe his wife or fiance died
like terribly and then he's
sort of been single
ever since maybe.
Sad.
Hopefully not as sad as
hopefully good boy is not sad.
I don't want to see that dog die.
I don't want to see that dog die, man.
They better not kill that fucking.
He can hurry him.
a little like have them do that. I hope they kill the dog. Oh, come on. No, I love it when they
kill important characters. Plot armor's ruined shows. But not dogs. What, okay, so if you're
going to stand on business there, you must hate the Battle of the Bastards because that is the
most. Oh, my God. I fucking hate the Battle of the Battle of Bad. It's cool, but if you hate
plot armor, fair enough. My fucking God, this guy was dead 10 times over. He made the worst possible
decisions plot armor saved him again and again and again at one point was like 10,000 v1 as dumbass
fucknard jackass idiot runs out there to like what save his dead brother or something and then he's like oh by
god what did i do because there's 10,000 soldiers and he survives that he survives everything he's being
crushed he's in the middle he's in the worst possible spot they save him in the nick of it it is terrible
terrible bad writing it is bad all the way through i i can't insult that scene enough you can't follow
it there's a jump cut every 1.5 seconds in there so you can't follow so you can't see how this thing is
developing this is how you film bad fight scenes jump cut jump cut jump cut jump cut jump cut watch it again
and just say the words jump cut every time there's a jump cut and and it sounds like i just did
It is, it is one of the worst cinematic scenes in, ever filmed.
There's no disagreeing with every single word you just said.
I still thought it was fucking awesome.
So, you know, you like it.
If it's fun, it's fun, but walking dead was a bad show.
I like the second.
After season seven, it was a bad show, I would argue.
Oh, I disagree, Woody.
The whispers arc, I thought was very good.
I thought it, I thought it brought back the anyone could die aspect.
of the Walking Dead.
And I love that.
I never left.
Like important characters
were murdered all the way to the end.
And I really
I was going to say
Walking Dead strength
was the fact that
nobody was safe.
When you see these people
surrounded by walkers,
this could be it.
Sometimes it happens
kind of unceremoniously
and just she's cooked.
And that was like,
Carl,
right?
Like when Carl died,
spoiler it wasn't like you know the worst of the worst it wasn't like um remember when they
killed the the the girl everyone loved in Game of Thrones she was young she led like the
mortimer's or something like that you guys remember this and she was at Kyle you're yeah
the young man girl yeah yeah yeah she got a special send-offs this four-foot nothing chick was
single-handedly fighting a zombie
giant or something. Not Carl.
Carl just got nipped on the ribs
by some random zombie because he let his guard
down for a second. And now this guy
who's been on the show for nine seasons
is gone.
Walking Dead delivered on the
lack of plot armor. And that's
the praise I'm trying to give it.
They should have just
taking his arm like take his arm
or something. Like don't kill him.
You can't get when they killed
off Carl and Rick. That
was the show. That was the show for me
because for me it was the Rick and Carl show
and I needed like you could kill Rick
but you can't kill Carl. Like Carl is supposed to be
He's Rick's motivation.
Well he's also like the next generation.
He's that generation of kids who
don't really remember as much
before the Walker's is after and
you sort of see what it's like to
come of age within this awful world
and what that's turned Carl into.
Carl had the makings of ultimate
bad assery. You took his eyes
away and he was still a badass he's jumping out of the back of that box truck with an m16 to kill
nighan like he should have just smoked nigan delivered his little sister judith and then murdered
her his mom before she became that's fucking bad ass he's like oh yeah so we had to give mom kind
of an amateur c-section and then we popped her one in the head because we knew what was coming
that he's he murdered he was murdering people there was a in season at the prison season there was a part
where they were at war with the governor and his folks
and some young governor troop
wandered into Carl's perimeter
and Carl and the old man sort of
had the kid like hey don't you move
and Carl was like ever again
and the old guy's like
the fuck you just executed him
and he's like one less problem to deal with
and I'm thinking like yeah
it is one less problem to deal with
now go get some motorcycle leathers quick
yeah Carl with the closet the body cam was off
dude that was that was that type of
execution.
Yeah.
Dude,
I have my...
Judith becomes pretty badass.
I have my...
I quit watching after Rick,
after Rick disappeared.
Right, so you don't know.
But like I watched that and then I watch those who live,
which is the spinoff with Michone and Rick.
And Judith plays a little part in that.
And she becomes pretty cool.
She's right there with like Maggie or something.
I never liked Michelle very much.
You know,
Daryl Dixon's in like France doing shit.
And Negan and Maggie are in New York doing shit.
Like currently.
in 2025 i i know what i liked about walking dead and i don't have nearly the expertise you guys do
that one eccentric lunatic who like had a tiger and said he was king oh is ezekiel rocks i loved
that guy he was so great he would like he wanted to like be a king but then things would happen
where that required some empathy and it was like he was always sweet and nice and like trying to
help. And it was like, oh, this guy does not have what it takes to be king. He's too nice. He's
too like, he took the mask off in one of the episodes. I think he might have been talking to
Carol. He's like, I'm an actor. I was in like Shakespeare before this. That's what the
lion is all about. But these people needed a king. So here I am with my dumb ass lion pretending to
be a king. And like, but with Carol, he was the real him.
And that guy was sweet.
I liked Ezekiel.
Carol's my favorite character.
I liked Carol a lot.
I never liked Michone.
The weird, she wasn't interesting and also, like, the weird insistence on, like, swords and
being like, acting as though she was, like, defeating a samurai regularly after chopping the head
off of a largely non-santient being, was like, calm the fuck down.
You lose her.
Like, I didn't like her.
The katanas were a pretty good weapon, I thought.
What would your weapon of choice be?
I would use a katana's too,
but I wouldn't be fucking showboating about it.
Every time I chop the head off of someone,
I wouldn't go into like Japan stance.
Yeah.
Well,
but you're right.
There was some showboating for sure.
I would have a piece of a rebar would get it done.
In terms of like a sword,
I feel like you'd want something that's more puncturing
as opposed to slicing.
I feel like slicing and this might be overthinking it.
I think that's a great way to get blood on yourself
and eventually get fucking sick.
That seemingly doesn't affect them.
But I always think that too.
Like don't get in your eyes,
but they do frequently and it doesn't seem to matter.
You'd want a Ruger 1022 with a suppressor on it
and a ton of magazines on you.
So you could just...
I didn't know that was an option.
That's always an option.
They're in Atlanta.
Like you want...
Who kills a zombie?
I guess it's absolutely.
Put it right through their head.
Oh, Ruger 1022.
Big magazines.
I don't know what those mags go up to.
Made like me would shake off for Ruger 1022.
35 round round.
No, men like me.
Magazines.
Laser, bunch of mags on you.
You get a poking stick as well.
You got an AR-15 to deal with humans if you run into them.
And then you wear motorcycle letters or get some chain mail.
They make chain mail.
You can get it on Amazon.
I do dislike that they made it seem like a six-shooter revolver and a crossbow
are the ultimate zombie apocalypse weapons.
The worst possible weapons.
Right.
The Python 44 Magnum.
Like the loudest gun I can think of with only six rounds.
That is so inconvenient.
That's right.
What is that, Kyle?
That's how Rick holds his gun.
He holds it sideways?
Yes, he's always like holding it sideways like this all loose.
He was going to call.
You know who I also liked in that show was that old man.
from season two where he was like
well there's a whole bunch of nonsense
going on out there but here on him
on my farm we're mostly
maintaining pretty well and then
fucking coral and the gang
shows up and suddenly it's like
I'm supposed to be siding with Rick
but it's like Rick you are just
throwing a barrel of
wrenches into the gears
that is this guy's somehow still functioning
farm like you try to change the power
I liked Herschel.
You probably forgot the details, but
Otis shot a deer, and
the bullet went through and through and
shot Carl. Herschel
was a veterinarian, so
Rick and the boys brought his shot
son to Herschel desperately
saying, hey, is
there something you can do? Can you help us?
Your team
shot my son. And Herschel,
being a good man, is like, yeah,
I'll do what I can, but I need some medicine.
So how about your buddy, Shane, and
Otis go to the school over there where the nurse has some medical supplies that I need to operate
on your side. So cool guy Shane and Otis go to get the medical supplies. They get overrun with
zombies. Shane shoots Otis. All the zombies go to Otis. Shane brings the medical supplies back
to Carl because Shane knew how to make the tough decisions. At least that's the storyline.
The first time I watched this through, I'm thinking Shane's an absolute asshole. The next time I watch
it through, I'm like, you know, this is a little more nuanced.
because the
choice he was making
is do we both die
or does one of us get back
and like all three of them
would have died Shane Otis and Carl
instead Shane and Carl
survived and Otis was bait
Shane was great
Shane actually like
was the only realist
that I recall and I didn't watch it
as thoroughly or as many times as you guys
but Kyle you're still muted
yeah
he was a step ahead
Shane was to go
he he read the situation
right off the bat he was like oh the rules are over there's no more rules anymore this is
killer be killed this is split second of like complacency and you're dead and not just you but
everybody could die if you go down then then we could all die right here right now just because
of like being too soft or thinking this over too much when a bullet will solve it right now and
we all lived to see another day and he was that guy and i appreciated the fuck out of shame he was also
get that Lori pussy, Lori, one of the scumbaggiest wives in all of cinema, second only to
Walter White's pitch.
I was about to ask you, which ones were Skyler or?
She gave the money to Ted! She gave the money to Ted!
He should have killed her. I'd have had those Mexican twins.
Did you see that meme I say you?
Yes.
I gave the money to the Israelis.
No!
Skylar with Trump hair?
That's very funny.
It made me laugh.
Why did she give the money to Ted?
I don't remember the reason.
Ted owed a bunch of taxes.
And what was the reason for him?
The books had been cooked and the IRS was going to come in and Ted was and she was going
to be tied up in an IRS investigation and they were going to find Walter's money perhaps.
And maybe Ted was going to tell on her somewhat too.
And so she gave him the money to like nip that in the bud.
But it's like you should have gone to Walter and been like, excuse me, genius husband and a bit of a kerfuffle.
housewife here um so i was thinking like that's what should have happened hi hormonal housewife here
um wanted to run this by your genius husband how many like like walter is literally a genius
walter had enough problems that was like close to the time walter's a problem solver he's got people on speed
dial who can nip ted in the bud where Walt junior was like dad aren't you look at how many people are
donating to you and he's just having to be like
Like, I made this money.
And now I'm having to pretend to be a freeloader.
I like to feed the whole purpose of my pride being the driving factor.
I like the alternative plot where instead of her solving Ted's problems with the IRS,
they bring in like better call Larry, the badass certified public accountant, right?
With a little bit of a crooked streak.
And this guy partners with Saul and they get shit done.
That's where I like it.
And he's very Jewish, so you know, so you know that he knows the numbers.
Did you follow up and watch Better Call Saul after Breaking Bad?
There's an argument to be made that Better Call Saul is better than Breaking Bad.
I'm not one of those people, but I both sound.
No, fair enough, fair enough.
I will say pound for pound, the first like four seasons of Better Call Saul are better than the first
four seasons of Breaking Bad.
But I just adore Breaking Bad season five so much that I think it just puts it above.
love Better Call Saul for me, but Better Call Saul is a perfect show.
For me, those are my two favorite shows of all time.
Breaking Bad immediately right below followed by Better Call Saul.
I think they're both amazing pieces of Storytale.
Worthy choices for sure.
I like Better Call Saul more, mostly because upon rewatching Breaking Bad, the slow parts were
too slow for me.
I've gone on and on before getting all upset about the cinematography in Breaking Bad.
Yeah.
Like watching bullshit through a tailpipe.
you're watching a reflection of a car handle you're watching a whole scene through like part of the
reflection of a doorknob and you're like oh my god like this is a little grueling can you please
just bring the characters into frame the twins murder this this guy in the desert and you only see
it through the reflection of a of like a broken mirror it's too much there was a little bit of that
a little bit of that artsy fartcy self-indulgent stuff but yeah breaking bad rocks better call
I don't think it was as good as Breaking Bad,
but that can also just be like nostalgia.
I'm not exaggerating when I say
Andor is almost as good as those shows.
Like it's Rotten Tomatoes.
I think it's Rotten Tomatoes is 96% or something.
Will the Kyle 10 years from now affirm this
or is this maybe its own little bit of...
No, I really do think so.
And also, it's expensive.
And it, I think they spent $300 million a season or something like that on
Andor.
It's beautiful.
The special effects are great, like the costumes are amazing.
I didn't like Andor season one, which is what I saw.
And it's almost like it's two different seasons.
Like before and after they go in the factory of making widgets.
Like, there's only one episode with a prison episode?
It couldn't have been one episode.
Two episodes, like four.
Really?
I think it's two episodes in the prison with Andy Circus is there at the prison.
He kills it.
Andy Circus is like the head prisoner.
He's the one telling you how things are.
are here in this awful Star Wars prison.
I like all of it.
There's never a time when they cut to a group of characters
because there's maybe six different,
like character groups, you know,
spread around that sort of intersect and weave amongst one another.
But I'm never like, oh, it's this guy again.
I like them all.
I'm so into it.
As soon as I'm done here,
I'm going to sit down with dinner and watch more season two.
Yeah.
It's been three years, but I,
Do they leave?
Is there a lot of show that happens after they get out of the prison?
I,
so after the prison and Cassian and Cassian has to make his way back home for his mother's funeral.
And there's a huge like shootout slash like uprising that happens at his hometown there on Ferris where like the people rise up at his mother's funeral.
and all the characters have shown up.
They've all come full circle
and they're here at this funeral parade
and Cassian's sneaking around
and the empire's trying to catch him
and that serumy cyril guy
who's like super into that incredibly severe blonde lady
with the mole on her face.
They're both there but they don't know
that each other is there
and it gets like crazy
when everything explodes
and everybody starts killing each other
that was a really good episode.
I think that's the season finale
the 12th episode and then
when season two begins it's like
one year later so
you skip forward and Cassian's like a full
blown like super spy
now and he's like
the part I'm at right now
they're in space France
it's just space France everybody
they're wearing berets they have
French slash German accents
and Cassian is there
as like a slightly flamboyant
like fabric salesman or a design
like a clothes designer and to watch him flip it back and forth he'll be like oh how wonderful it is to be here i've dreamt of coming to gortash my entire life the people that are following me aren't very good at their jobs they're just drawing attention you don't even id me you don't even know who i am i could be i could be working for the empire you gotta get yourself killing i could be french well anyway it's been wonderful being here la la la la it's like he's flipping it back and
fourth as he needs to if there's people around
and stuff. I know that was a good piece
of acting. Um, and
again, like the budget is clear.
Like you see so much, everything is slick.
The special effects don't, like,
draw attention to themselves. All of
the little monkey men and like polar
bear girls and shit, you're like,
oh my God, that looks like
a real polar bear man there. All right.
They did a good job here. Uh, fourth
Whitaker's there. Requel to the Star Wars
universe. So this is, they did,
it's two seasons self-contained. And
It is the prequel to the movie Rogue One.
The movie Rogue One is the prequel to Star Wars Episode 4,
A New Hope, which is the one made in the 70s with Luke Scott.
Yes.
So this all leads right into that with the,
you're watching Cassie and Andor become a super spy
and get plugged into the spy network that's being funded by political activists
and senators,
and it all culminates with them acquiring and things.
passing on the building plans for the the first death star and rogue one furthers that it's more
of that and then of course in episode four the plans for the death star are given to obi one who's
there with luke and they begin their journey to then go and destroy the death star i'm never going
to watch any of those star wars movies or shows because it feels like the people i see
reviewing it or talking about it like the hardcore star wars fans are always so anti they're like
this is gay it doesn't match up with like the lore of xyz and i'm not familiar enough to even pretend
in the star was it's become it's become super woke and weird in a lot of ways i saw the black lesbian
thing i literally thought you were joking with me when you brought that up to me the first time
and you're like no here's a scene of a bunch of black lesbians being like yeah we can throw the foes
i was like okay well this is kind of weird so it's one of those things where like you got to
because of Disney Plus
it's become very bastardized
that business model is weird and wonky
and they greenlit like so
many shows
there's three seasons of the Mandalorian
and like maybe two seasons of Asoka
there's something called
there's bad batch
which is like the spin off of the clone wars
that's just the bad batch of clones
each of them's like there's a giant clone
and like a sneaky clone
instead of being normal they're the bad batch
they're like the the the the the mismatched ones yeah yeah that's all animated and then
there's um acolyte that's the one with the black witches i think and then there's another
one called like spare bones or bare bones or something with jude law i didn't watch that
then there's an obi one show that's at least one season maybe two that's just obi one canobie's
life um isn't it bizarre how like culture kind of stopped
I'm serious
As far as like pop culture
Like it just it stopped
It was Marvel movies for 25 years
Star Wars reimagined
They bring back Lord of the Rings
And totally bastardize it
It didn't stop though
Avatar
Avatar
Which wasn't even a good movie
When I saw that in theaters
In high school
It was like this is fine I guess
But even at the time
I was like
This guy with the scarred face is correct
Fight for Human
we are human whatever is good for humans is good you know what I'm not a fucking blue
fairy tree person I don't give a fuck about what's good for them and then that one pussy
switches sides fuck him he should be strong from the highest rafters as a traitor I
absolute ghoul I'm not joking like I'm not either this is a lot like what I was talking about
earlier with like if you really stand back and take a look at it this Lex Luthor situation he's
not exactly the villain he's just looking out for you
humanity. The same thing is here. Earth is fucked. The human empire, whatever it is
fucked. This new planet is our chance for survival as a species. Turns out there's a bunch of
primitive blue motherfuckers trying to live in harmony with their Gaia stand-in mother nature.
Well, guess what? We don't have enough fuel to go to a third planet. This is it. We're here.
And we didn't bring any peacekeepers. We brought fucking mecks and starships and machine guns. And
that pussy turns goes native over some blue pussy it's and it's not even pussy they have sex
with their hair it's a cloaca or something there's a cloaca down there or something they don't
know what's going on there but i didn't like that one bit like watching that in 2009 or whatever it was
have you seen the sequel we've talked about the sequel it's the one so very quick whales and the
sequel the first one was on land the second one the second one is in the ocean i think the third one is
going to be in the air or something. They're going to be flying
around in like dragonfly hover ships up in the
clouds. And then they'll go full avatar
and they'll have a fire episode where they go underground,
I bet. Because they've planned like six of these
fucking movies. And because they keep making
billion to $2 billion each
and James Cameron's fielding this thing, they're
going to get made. This is what he's doing in perpetuity.
Every three years, you get
another avatar. There's another one on the way now.
But in the second one, they're in the ocean.
Dude, there are sentient whales.
Their blood
is the key to immortality.
Taylor. It de-ages
you and makes you like
25-year-old prime, no dent in your
ass Taylor again. Like
sick. Yes.
Split squatting my way out of the dent in the
ass, but anyway, continue.
I know that. I know that every time.
I just like to let the ladies
out there know. You can just fucking razz in there.
But no, there are these, and we're
supposed to feel sorry for the whales. We're supposed
to identify with the whales and be like, oh,
don't harpoon those whales.
they're sentient they have families and the whole time i'm thinking like you're telling me their blood
makes us live forever like forever ever like 800 years and shit oh they're sentient dude that
i could be looking into its eye and it could be like taylor please no and height the eye
right the eyeball because i'd be like we're i'm doing this for humans we're giving this to humans now
and i'm team human because if you're not on your own fucking species team you're an enemy
yes genocide is only bad against other humans it's not bad as a concept yes some things need to go
some things need to go wasps i declare genocide on all the wasps since i declare genocide on bb8 just to
fuck with kyle i didn't like b he's the bad he's the soccer ball one that rolls around the sand
well whatever android you like from and or how's you getting a grip in that sand
fuck that android i never what i never understood about avatar and maybe it's my circles i think
other movies that made as much money as Avatar, and I can picture in like college rooms,
people with posters. I can, I can visibly see the cultural impact of those movies that made as
much money or about as much money as Avatar. I've never seen an ounce of cultural influence
from Avatar. There's none. I, so I've been beating that same drum for, okay. Yeah,
guess how much Avatar two made in the box office? I'll guess one point six million. One point six.
I'll go 2.3 billion.
Well, you just nailed it.
He nailed it. It's 2.3 billion.
I was going to say like 900 million.
I thought it would be less popular because nobody has no cultural presence.
I don't think Superman cracked a half a billion.
If it did, maybe worldwide, maybe it, like, slowly crept there.
This thing made almost five times what Superman made with its, like, incredible push.
I bet Cameron's got some of those Epstein videos.
Maybe this is laundering.
He makes amazing movies, Taylor.
He made Terminator 2.
Yeah.
Who is that one guy, the director who's known for lens flare?
Like, what if he had some of the esteem videos and you couldn't tell because he added
lens for it?
It's not Michael Bay.
Michael Bay.
It's not Snyder either.
Michael Bay is the Transformers guy.
That's all I know him from.
Are you talking about the Inception guy?
Who is the name?
J.J. Abrams.
J.J. Abrams is the lens flare guy.
who did uh who did inception uh the oh scott christopher no actually christopher no one thank you
that inception came out the same summer as shutter island and everyone was like fanatical over inception
and i went with my buddies in college and saw both and i feel like i was the only person then and now
who's like shutter island is 10 times the better movie than inception and blood diamond was like a year
before. DeCaprio was knocking
out of the park. Nobody ever
talks about Blood Diamond. It's great
great. It's really good.
Shutter Island, I think you can watch
Shutter Island twice. The first time you don't know what's
happening until the end, the second time you
watch it with the idea of what's actually
happening and you see all the little, you're like
oh. That's fair.
I know they're always lighting his cigarettes.
What's going on there?
I'm not kidding. I swear to God,
Inception had a bigger cultural impact
than Avatar. Just people going,
the meme of like making the sound of of inception that thing spinning around the top any anything was
like you know oh my god it's computerception there's a computer in a computer that was like a joke
people made for 10 years yeah it used to be the matrix there's a glitch in the matrix that was
the meme but then it turned into inception it's wild how avatar had no cultural footprint
but everybody saw it none it's it's crazy how little cultural impact it has had none
There are no Avatar memes.
There are no image macros of scenes from Avatar put forth as like funny, you know, reaction.
There's nothing, nothing whatsoever.
It's a ghost culturally.
And it's making $1.6, I'm sorry, $2.3 billion.
That's insane.
Do you like Chinese people just love it?
Like that has to be the explanation, right?
Who's, who's watching?
Do they pay for movies?
I thought that was, that's what, uh,
Or that was my understanding is like that's what drives a lot of movies up now
is that they're like hits in China anymore.
And then is that not a thing anymore?
Well,
you see them kowtow to China every chance they get.
There's always a fucking random Chinese woman who just shows up in like the Meg movies.
It's like,
oh,
how are we going to deal with his shock?
Better find a Chinese lady.
It's like what?
Yeah,
get a hit now.
You have to eat it.
How many of you heard about this?
There was a movie that came out recently.
It's animated.
and I think it's the highest grossing movie
ever made. It's Chinese. Do you know what talking about?
I have no idea. Is it the K-pop movie
that's come out? This animated K-pop
movie, I think it is.
It's K-pop demon hunters?
I think it's K-pop demon hunters.
I haven't seen it, but I've
been seeing it everywhere.
Interesting.
You know, of
shows that were
culturally. He made like $20 million
dollars its first theater. Oh, it's a Netflix.
So that's a Netflix movie that's also in theaters.
It made like $20 million.
So this new zoo thing has earned over $2 billion,
and it's a 2025 movie.
What's it called?
That's a ton.
I'm going to give you a copy paste because this is a hard word.
Do it in Asian voice.
Asian voice.
I think it's meant to be one word, but this is how it's written.
Oh, Dallas Sound Nizal.
Knees out.
Knees out.
okay um anyway
they came out like a month ago and it's already done two billion
i'm not sure about this no dollars
dollar yes
oh dada are yeah it looks like niza
was a 2019
and so this is no yeah it's the sequel the sequel i'm seeing it here
uh at 2.1 billion dollars
that's crazy u.s dollars
just clarify directed by esteemed director
Yu Yang
which is like me writing a Chinese guy's name
like Yu Yang
Yeah apparently
American audiences hate it
Like it leans on it
Well one it leans on some fairy tales and shit
That we don't have any background with
And I guess it hits like trope after trope
And what I read was that the Chinese sense of humor
Really loves hearing like the same joke again and again
Whereas Americans are like
This rehashed hack bullshit
We need novelty
so here's a theory
since it's
made all of its money domestically
could the Chinese be cooking the books
it's a solid theory
would they bother
yes
something like this hammering got a topple the
American icon Cameron
yeah yeah because I remember
hearing about
maybe
Xi being so upset about Kung Fu Panda
and all the money it made
because it's like they're too
most culturally significant
stereotypes. Kung Fu and
pandas. That's their shit.
And the Americans made a movie
called Kung Fu Panda, and it's a
multi-billion dollar franchise.
Yeah, I think you're cooking the books, man.
It's awful.
You know, like if it made a billion,
you might be like, oh, wow, weird sense of humor
over there, huh? But $2 billion?
Yeah, they don't have honest accounting like
American Hollywood.
Yeah, but they go the other way.
They inflate their cost to deflate profits so they don't have to pay percentages and stuff.
You're half right.
They shift shit around.
Do you guys think that GTA 6 will break the entertainment record like GTA 5 did?
I'm interested in that.
Jackie and I are watching Grand Theft Auto YouTube videos at this point.
And I'm like, should I pick that game up?
I think I might pick it up prior to six dropping just as a way to like.
Which one? GTA 5?
Yeah.
I played GTA 5 for like 15 minutes.
I obeyed every traffic wall and made them on Monday video.
It was kind of funny.
That's the end.
That's all I've done.
It's a good game.
It's a good game.
And you can literally,
at this point,
play it on like a smart refrigerator if you really want to do.
Yeah,
you just play as Trevor,
the crazy meth head who lives in a trailer park.
Best character by far in that.
GTS5 was great.
Don't they have role play servers?
I think they have role play.
You have like cops and robbers essentially, like people playing the roles.
And I've seen people like pull each other over and they stop to get their ticket and stuff.
There's a ton of money in those servers.
I'm curious, Woody as a Woody craft guy, when you got into like the servers of Minecraft,
had you been around for the height of GTA role play servers, would you have dipped your toes in there?
Probably.
Yeah, I could see doing that instead.
I used to think about Gary's mod sometimes too
or Rust as a place that had potential for making money.
I remember my buddy played Gary's Mod
and I would go over to his house and we were like in middle school
and he'd be like, check out what I can do in Gary's Mod.
This is the only exposure I have to that game.
He'd be like, I can walk up to this wall and I can hit paint
and look, there's a picture of a pussy on it now.
So he was just going around like putting pussies.
And I was like, all right, well,
like is there a score or maybe like a way you win no i don't know how russ differentiates itself
is better and i drew a lot of attack a lot of attention from bad people you know
dedossers hackers cyber criminals etc so like it was just so much harder for me than
it would be from unnamed russ server owner the other one that uh people make games for is
roblocks did you guys see that they are banning pedophile hunters on roblox people that
trying to find and out pedophiles
on Roblox are being banned instead of
the actual pedophiles.
They're banning the hunters instead of the
vigilantes. They're banning
the pedophile vigilante hunters.
That doesn't help the only representation in my mind
of Roblox, which is that it's like a joke
that this is a place where like kids play games and
pedophiles target them. That's all I know about
Roblox. What is it? Is it like Minecraft,
but I think it's kind of like a Gary's mod
where there's a ton of games that people and developers
can make off of the assets that are already there.
Okay. Oh, so it is kind of a Gary's mod.
I would say so. That's the closest thing that I would compare it to.
Gary's Mod maybe meets Minecraft, but it's like almost entirely all children.
I've never touched Roblox in my life.
So kind of crazy that they're gunning after the people gunning after pedophiles.
That's weird.
It seems like a bad business move.
You probably want to get rid of the...
It's weird on the surface.
I sometimes wonder if there's more to it than we've said.
Like maybe these pedophile hunters are causing more problems than they're solving.
Yeah.
I mean, how many times have we seen, like I remember like drama alert calling out some old runescape guy as this pedophile who was just the most nice runescape player of all time who was just this 70.
He was not about to clarify not a pedophile.
Who just wanted to play RuneScape
was getting called ever being a pedophile
when he never was?
Yeah.
You got to avoid shit like that.
But who knows?
I don't know the
percent win rate
of random online pedophile hunters.
Like, are they hitting it 90%
and then 10% of the time
they're like, this guy's a pedophile?
And he's like, I'm just trying to enjoy my twilight years.
The IRL streamer pedophile hunters, that's something to watch.
Alex Rose.
I'm a fan of that.
I like seeing people get slammed with pumpkins at Walmart.
I got to admit, I like that the problem is occasionally.
That guy end up being a pedophile, or was that one of the mistakes where some random dude who wasn't a petto got his head crunched by a pumpkin?
Dude, I don't know.
I all know is they knocked him the fuck out with a pumpkin.
That was pretty sick.
Never seen that done before.
And as someone who's lobbed a pumpkin or two,
I was impressed by his trajectory.
He took that dude right to fuck out.
I think the guy was there to meet a kid.
They always catch him at like Walmart,
like trying to meet a kid or something.
And it's like so hard to get out of Walmart
while you're being called a pedophile and slapped in the face.
Yeah, it's hard to get out of any establishment if that's happening to you.
Yeah.
Have you seen the one where they alley you punch the pedophile?
How does that happen?
So it's like a pretty small guy.
It looks like a 5 foot two Latino guy.
they grab him like toddler style
they throw him up in the other air
and there's a guy waiting for him
and punches him out of the air
okay based based
you know we can enjoy
I saw the really effeminate
maybe Asian guy who they caught
one time and he wrecked his like
goofy Yaris in the fucking
parking lot trying to escape
and they had to like flee the vehicle
like he was screaming
it's not me it's not me
and they're just, they're terrifying.
And it must be, I can't imagine what it's like to get caught doing something so fucking repugnant.
In your Yaris.
I like those videos, though.
It's people who deserve an ass whoop and get an ass whoopping.
It's hard not to like.
Oh, another show.
On Netflix, they did like a six episode thing about the Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson.
And like, it was really good.
um i'm in the sixth episode now it's like the downfall episode is dion sanders play a big role
he's in there quite a bit he's interviewed a good bit and there was a season or two there's a
season where he was playing for the niners and he ended the the cowboy season and jerry jones was
like i got to get me at dion sanders and then they like steals him from the niners pays him
whatever he wants and then they go on and win the super bowl but emitt smith was talking about
he's like i left the club one night i wouldn't drunk but i'd had some drinks
Look in the mirror, there was the cops.
I was like, oh, God.
Oh, no.
Cop passed me.
Gave me an escort home.
I said, what the fuck?
We got it made now.
It was really good because Jerry Jones gets this huge, like,
amount of hate, I think, for ruining the franchise.
But as I'm watching it, he won like a, he didn't win.
He was talking about, he was like, my mouth.
is good at buying money, and I had borrowed up $50 million worth of debt, drilling oil.
And I tell you what, I hit this one oil, and he's talking about when he finally hit the oil
and how the oil well was, he said, first it started a hollering, and then it started yelling,
and then it started screaming, blowing that black gold everywhere, and that one well made me
a hundred million dollars. And I said, I'm going to buy the cowboys.
And it was like, this guy was $50 million in debt, hit with this one oil will, and turned that one oil well into owning the Dallas Cowboys, which must be worth like, I don't know, six, nine million.
I think it's the most valuable professional sports team.
I was going to say that.
I don't know what would be worth more.
The Boston Celtics are probably worth a lot, but not as much.
Well, they were shitty.
Like what they would, like the NFL had an agreement.
The NFL team is even fucking close to NFL value.
I think you got a little
like European soccer teams
like Royal Madrid and Barcelona
Zach's the Yankees
that he wrote a lot
Well see it doesn't apply to it
Because Jerry Jones is shitty
So the way most of the sports teams do it
As you know is
The Dallas Cowboys equated
For like 80% of all merchandising sales
But they still only got
132nd of the money
So they were like fuck that
We're doing a deal with Nike
The NFL's like no no no
We have an NFL wide deal with Reebok
Like fuck you
We've got to deal with Nike
and Pepsi.
And they're like, no, we've got to deal with Coca-Cola.
Fuck you.
And they sued him and he won.
And he won in every way of management.
He was like, not only could he keep his sponsorships, he could get more.
And so the Dallas Cowboys just signed their own brands for the Cowboys themselves
and left the rest of the NFL in the cold.
He was amazing at what he was doing.
His daughter was like, I put a Nike swoosh everywhere you could imagine.
imagine. And I called Daddy and said, Daddy, the stadium has been swished. And you look, and it's
like every step as you go up the stands, another Nike swish, like every, every drink
cart soundboard TV screen, just Nike everywhere.
So that guys, the Yankees at second and the Warriors at third. The list I found had the Warriors
at second and the Yankees and fourth. Are you on the Wikipedia one, Woody? That's not.
Yeah, the Forbes one. Yeah.
or this this must be newer or i'm sorry the the list that zach is showing must be a bit older
because it also says like dallas cowboys 10.1 billion on the list we're looking at it says
nine billion here so maybe that's great probably yeah that's crazy i didn't know basketball
would have a team that high up as i'm processing it right the cowboys play 17 games a year right
they miss the playoffs all the time 17 games can only earn as you know so much compared to 82
It's shocking how much this list is NFL heavy.
Like, in my head, I thought a lot of it would be soccer.
Me too.
Yeah, Real Madrid on the Forbes list is 12.
I can't count down.
Yeah, and then there's like La Liga, Premier League, La Liga.
Yeah, in the top 20, there's only three soccer teams.
Hmm.
I do think the highest paid athlete is,
soccer player. I think Rinaldo right now is
clearing, I think his deal with
$700 million over
two years for the Saudi League.
I wouldn't doubt that.
Baseball players always earn
more than I expect them to.
Yeah, but they're usually over like, we've
signed Shohei Otani for a billion dollars
over 33 years. Like their contract
lengths are really, really long.
I just told you, Ronaldo, got that in
two years.
Yeah, Steph Curry's number two on this list.
For pay?
Tyson Fury is third
Dak Prescott
Messy and 5th
LeBron at 6th
What year is this though?
It's the Forbes list from 2025
I believe
Because like
Athlete salary varies so wildly
Year to year
Yeah
Okay
Well I would guess like a LeBron James
Steph Curry is making a 156 salary this year
156 mill
No
There's no way he makes $1.50.
Oh, not salary.
It's total, total.
Oh, yeah.
Well, see, that's another thing.
Like, are they adding in all the sponsor deals?
It has to be.
The max contract in basketball is about $50 million.
So he's tripling that.
It must have been $1.
It's got to be a lot.
NBA's first $200 million contract in 2017.
He became the first player with two such deals when he inked a four-year,
$215 million extension in 21.
he 50 million dollar want 50 million dollar salary plus it was the first player to earn 50 plus who is this
step curry curry yeah 51.9 a year so early in his career he was underpaid he was an elite player but
i think he had an ankle injury and they didn't pay him as much as you would for someone that good
because they were uncertain about his future and that contract kind of hurt his feelings a little bit
it was the best he could manage and he went and got a
shoe deal with under armor under armor that's it i had an one in my head and i knew it was wrong
but he got this under armor shoe deal that was kind of better than everyone else's shoe deal
because he was a little competitive and about the like he didn't just sign with nike like so
many people do and the shoe deal turned out to be a whopper and he did really well yeah he
he was like the first major signy for under armor and then under armor just went all in on
step curry and then he just made bank it is fun going through those lists and like going by year by year
because then you can see like, ah, this is the year
that Mayweather decided to fight. Oh,
this is another year that he decided to fight.
He'll fight once and he'll be at the top of the list.
With boxing, I never know what's true.
Like, UFC fighters are always
underpaid, right? And then you hear him
afterwards. They're like, actually Lorenzo
called me up, gave me two million, said, thanks,
bro. You know, like,
then once I fall as a
former champ, wasn't making
champ money, but they were like, you know what? I think
you should. They wrote me checks on the down.
low. Yeah, Cormier, he was on an 80,000, 80,000 deal, 80,000 to show, 80 more to win,
and they gave him a million dollars after the fight. And then the next fight, he had, he had a
new, he was the champ, and he was defending, and his contract was 300, 300, and that plus his
pay-per-viewpoints, he was like seven or 800,000 he had made, and they were like, we'd like
to get you to a mill. I feel like you should be earned a million a fight, and they, like,
gave him the difference, whatever it took to get him to a mill for the fight.
I think Cormier is a special example, though.
He's definitely the golden boy.
I heard Shannon Sharp float the idea of when Dana White retires maybe D.C. doing that job.
But that's not.
Dana White is clearly grooming Lorenzo, I think, for that job.
Okay.
I used to think Chal Sunnan was the right level of scumbag for that job,
scumbag and promoter.
Like, he'd be good at that.
He'd be dirty.
And now I feel like he's maybe overdoing it on the,
scumbag. He'd fill his own pockets.
He'd be taking
fucking bribes to put people in.
Would you like to fight, Ronaldo,
or whoever? How about
you give me 20% of what
you make? 20% is something you
weren't going to make it all unless I make it happen,
right? He seems
that's how Trump would run
the UFC. Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Corrupt as fuck.
I saw someone found that I was making
fun of Trump's golden, gaudy,
decorations two or three weeks ago i was like i was like those are matching sets like you would get at
ikea someone on reddit was like they found the ikea like catalog numbers they're like not
it wasn't ikea no way right it was it was they were like not only is this thing cost 40
it's gray it's been spray painted gold and hung on the wall of the white house i'm not kidding
They took a $40 like wall decoration thing.
It looks like a candle holder, but it's not.
There is a middle ground because I saw a similar picture that showed the Trump,
you know, Oval Office, and then I saw one with Obama.
And the Obama one was like a bland, looked like a catalog, like a just boring, not exquisite, not great.
I don't think he was able to get too flamboyant.
They're giving him a hard time over the suit.
Then we get Trump, who goes too far in the other direction.
He's too garish.
He's like a Saudi prince level of gold everywhere, from what I can tell.
It's not even real gold.
There's a nice middle ground there where we don't want to have boring-ass nonsense like Obama had in his own office.
But we also don't need Saudi chic aesthetics.
I like Trump is the use.
I don't know what his looks like.
There should be some gold in.
there. We are America.
I think it's flexing when you don't need
to. I think it's like
you should flex. We're the strongest people
on earth. We can flex how much we want.
Trillionaires don't wear their gold on the outside,
Taylor. Trillionaires don't wear their gold on the outside.
That's what I'm saying. There should be
just a little bit of gold to make it seem official
and nice, but not the absurd,
tacky, goche amount.
I would want, put a moon rock in my office.
Can you pull this up? Let's flex that.
Let's flex something that no one can get, no matter how much
money they've got. Here's a new rock.
My link back and start from the bottom.
That's the most current ones.
Rough carpet.
That's tough.
That's bad.
It is.
That's horrible carpet.
It's dated.
All right.
So this is Biden's.
Can you magnify it a little?
And I like it.
It looks like an American oval office, the right level of taste.
And if you go, yeah, let's scroll up a little bit.
It's a little plain.
Trump's.
Oh, this actually
I feel like it looks
less garish than my memory.
Now, this is first term.
Oh, okay.
Let's go to the next one.
This is Obama's that Taylor didn't like.
It's a little plain.
I get it, but it's not without class
like it is right now.
This is W's.
I like this one.
I definitely like his curtains
more than Obama's.
I think the red curtains are a bad decision.
I think those gold.
curtains look good.
I like the carpet.
I like the carpet.
I like the couches.
I think it works.
They should have better couches, too.
Those are trash couches.
Ooh, who is this?
Oh, that's horrible.
Look at those couches.
That's rough.
I'd have the stains.
If the couches were white, I'd like it more.
The couches ruin it for me.
I don't hate the carpet for the Oval Office.
You know, it's obviously theme carpet, but, you know, sure.
It's the couches.
It's hard to tell.
Go to the.
HW.
Oh my God.
Fuck him.
That's awful.
It was 89 or something.
Who cares?
That's terrible, Kyle.
Don't offend this.
I don't know.
Maybe Robin Egg Blue was in.
I like the idea of Donald Trump stealing other team sports trophies like he did
with Chelsea, that won the soccer World Cup and just decorating the room with the Stanley Cup with the Larry O'Brien trophy.
that's
the funniest thing
he's done in recent memory
like the idea
that he would like
speak to the nation
and then in the background
there might just be
the Stanley Cup
is very funny
he would put his name on it
yeah he would have
his name etched in
as like you know
I don't think you were part
of the 1970
why is this silver
is this a second place trophy
oh this is
Nixon's was definitely better than H.W. Bush, but I still, you know, I wouldn't pick this. I don't think
it's still like W the most, but I don't hate this. It's a little, a little bold, but. Jimmy Carter just had
peanut hulls all over the floor like a Texas roadhouse. Lyndon B. Johnson. This is the worst one yet,
by far. It looked worse than the real picture than it does in this. Terrible. Yeah, I hate these
animations anyway. Okay. Okay.
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