Painkiller Already - PKA 777 W/ MMA Guru: MMA's Mount Rushmore

Episode Date: November 8, 2025

PKA triple sevens. Our guest MMA guru coming about halfway through, Taylor. This episode of PKA is brought to you by Blue Chew, lock and load, and our wonderful, wonderful merchandise. Did you guys happen to see that plane explode? Yes. I heard about it. It seemed like you guys knew more about it than me.

I saw clips of the explosion, and it was an even worse crash because, I don't know if you guys saw the takeoff of it, the engine was on fire as it was taking like it hadn't left the ground. That's a clue to me not to take off. Maybe he was a newer pilot. I'm no,

I'm no aviator. Small fire. It'll go out in the air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just get to a high enough altitude. There's less oxygen. Yeah. Right.

Everyone knows. It's a great idea. Hate oxygen. I had idea. But that I also, I had the same thought, Woody, where I was like, why didn't they stop it?

But like, maybe there were like eight yards of runway, left and they're like we either have to try and take off with this or we're going to already die because we're going 200 miles an hour and these wheels are not off road capable and so it will just collapse into a pile. I don't know. I'm they did a better job than me. Well, I don't know. You couldn't have done worse. What were you going to go right to toward the children's hospital? I would have been like I would have been like I would have Like Denethor when he sees the orcs outside,

I would have been like, flee, flee, flea, flee, they got to take these windows open. We got to get out. Well, the pilot's eating all the pretzels out of the snack part right now, so I think we're fine. So I know these planes can fly with one engine, but I'm not so sure they can launch with one engine, that they could take off with one engine. This thing's as heavy it's going to be, completely filled with fuel, and I presume packages. and maybe they were like I guess we just got to do our best

we can't quit from here I mean I don't know what you do in that situation I wonder if they intentionally crashed into a nice area to crash instead of what you said like a children's hospital or something is that where it crashed

Oh yeah it hits there and just kept going Like I sent Zach a photo of the aerial view of the devastation and it's like a football field of destruction, maybe more, maybe two or three football fields of just utter devastation. It was loaded up with a Hawaii

He was flying sideways. I can't fly sideways. Yeah, I could have done better. Fucking day once bit, but... See, this looks like me flying in battlefield. This is weaks off. Holy shit. And I know it's all over the news, but like this plane was like loaded up with a Honolulu

amount of fuel. And And it made it like 60 yards and then crash. So, like, I don't even know what the most amount of fuel you can put in a plane is, but that has to be damn near the absolute X. We were in Discord and we watched that plane. We watched the clip we just saw there of it just exploding into the biggest fireball most of us ever saying. And I was like, man, I hope the pilots are okay. I'm betting against it.

Did they? No, man, how many people died? I didn't see that. Probably just the two on the plane, right? Yeah. Unless they hit some... I don't know. They hit a populated area.

They would look like an industrial center or some sort. Yeah. Yeah. There's like a black truck driver and he's got a camera on him and a camera showing. It was that view we saw where it goes right to left. And he's just like, no, no, no. Oh, fuck. Oh, God.

Like his reactions were so genuine and bombastic that it was hard not to laugh at just him. He got out of his. truck and ran away like needlessly like he's the guy that loves magicians oh yeah oh yeah David Blaine would send him into a tizzy 13 dead geez and nine missing you know it didn't look like an area that was super hard to find people let's be real I think we're being a little naive with the missing part like 17 as of 17 hours ago 20 injured okay well at least 13 dead that's that's horrible who was who was in charge of that engine Who can we blame this on?

Who was the engine man? DEI, probably. That's what we do nowadays. It's 2025. Everything is the fault of a girl. They gave it to a guy in a wheelchair and he couldn't reach the rats or something. I don't know. Yeah.

Well, that sucks. That guy's tire shop got ruined. 13 people died, which is an even bigger deal. That sucks. That's the kind of analysis we turn to you for, Taylor. Yeah. You know, here we like to give this event two thumbs. down. We like to give it a frowny face. That's how the news should operate on thumbs

up stars and brownies. People got hurt, but I'm always here for an explosion. You don't want people to get hurt. Well, we know you're fine with, you know, explosions, but this is worse than like people dying in like a war in an explosion because ostensibly some guy there, like you saw the explosion. It was near like a tired like change station. And so some dude who's already having a horrible day where he's like, they got me backed up like nobody's business. I got 15 cars to go through. And the boss is having fucking lunch with a client.

And I'm just trying to make ends meet. And then he's like, this could, this day couldn't get any worse. Wait a minute. What's that noise? I smell burning hair. Yeah, that's, uh, that's rough. That's terrible. I feel like, I would like to see the statistics.

I'm obviously there, they exist. unless Trump stopped counting or made someone stopped counting. But like, are we actually having more air crashes in recent times or the last year or two? I don't know. I think I haven't heard about one in a while. It's been a minute. There were two back to back like a year ago. I remember.

Right. This one is sometimes I'm like, would this have made news anyway? Yeah, this one would have made news. It was a fantastic explosion and it hit a populated area. Like this is newsworthy. But I do always wonder, because I bought into the year of the Sharps. for a minute there. Man, why are there so many shark attacks?

It was like a normal or below average amount of shark attacks just every time. Shark spottings in the ocean were making the news. Shark spottings are not news. In regard to the year of the shark, I saw a very compelling graph that showed that ice cream sails and shark attacks follow a very similar path. Ooh, I actually didn't know where you were going. I was like, are people staying out of the water? Because I can imagine if I'm the boardwalk vendor, sales are great.

No one's swimming. All they do is walk around my store. But I guess not. No, it was just like one of those people being like a dick where they're like, yeah, I think ice cream is causing it. And it's like, clearly there are some corollary things there. But yeah, it's a good thing that every air crash, every air disaster, in America at least. I don't know about other countries. Maybe they're fucking it up bad.

It's a good thing here. They all make the news because what would be scary is if it became so, you know, commonplace that it wasn't newsworthy. That's when you need to be scared. If there's a big crash and they're like, ah, you win some, you lose some. They just go to the next thing. Somebody took someone else's wallet in an alley. Can you believe it?

Yeah, that's every day. That's what happens in alleys. Don't do. We'll walk in the sunlight. Don't go down alleys. It's safer not to. But anyway, RIP to the people killed in the plane crash. I like to think that I could have Mark Wahlberg to that situation.

Maybe I could have steered us to the sea. You got to pull up, dummy! I could have taken us all the way from that. I'm not going to say that. I would have inverted the bird. I would have inverted the bird and landed us safely. When I saw the plane crash. I would have caught it so that it landed more gently.

You know what would have been funny as if like I'm on that, I'm on that plane and the engine's on fire and I'm like, it's time to fight back. I have a box cutter and running the front. They're like, it's not a terrorist thing. We're just having to do it. I'm told you fight fire with fire. Throw a match or something.

Yeah, that's what you need to do. Oh, man. Fighting fire with fire is a stupid, stupid idea. I saw I thought it was dumb too But then I saw a video of a fireman That made it make sense But I thought it was more complex than it actually was

Because going into the video I'm not I was like It can't possibly be that they just See where the fire is going to be And burn everything beforehand So the fire gets there and it's like Aha we've already burned it And it's like no that's exactly what it's

You just burn everything Situations you know control better It makes sense but by and large Fighting fire with water CO2, foam, those are your go-toes. Yeah. Yeah, water is the goat. Unless it's an oil fire on the oven.

Then, a lid. How are people still so stupid? They pour water on oil fires? Like, every time I see someone that, I'm just like, why is there not a man here? Why is there no man in this house? Sometimes it's a man doing it. All you got to do is say, don't pour water on that.

Turn the eye off on the stove and wait five minutes. it'll solve itself or put a lid on it or pour baking soda on it and then some dumbass they'll grab the flaming pot put it on the deck and some dummy comes along with this big glug of water and just burns the fucking house down it's crazy yeah it's on their stove top and it's like yeah i get it's burning the fucking fan but you're clearly renting like when we lived in apex we had one of those oil fires on the stove and uh it was jacky i had a co-worker over and me we were going to have dinner and the fire's out of control. So I grabbed the fire extinguisher and I spray it. And it goes out. Everything's fine. There's a mess.

And Jackie's like, we could have just put a lid on that. You just wanted to use the fire extinguisher. And I'm like, you're so ungrateful. I saved us all. I just wanted to use the fire extinguisher. I never used one before.

It seemed like a great opportunity. It totally works. That's awesome. Jackie over the next week is like, There's been a surprising amount of small brush fires in the yard. That somehow you have an Amazon delivery package of a new little, was it a big extinguisher or like a mini kitchen one? Because I have one of those mini kitchen ones. It wasn't as many as you're talking about like an oversized water bottle.

It was bigger. I did a lot of work in the shop, the garage. So we had a fire extinguisher convenient to both my shop and the kitchen, which are places I might have a fire. Yeah. I've never. never charged. I've used them a bunch of times, but mine are almost never charged. Like I've got some in my house and I've got some in the shop and they're just hanging there. And I remember I looked at them one day and it was like they've got like an ex last time checked or whatever. And it's like, ooh, that's a decade, huh? How long do they last? It's still good. It's still good. Yeah, that I have no idea. I have one of my garage from a previous owner in my house. And like the, I think the manufacturer date is like 1992. It's yellow. It looks old. 10 to 12 years, Google says.

We broke into a factory one time and we got these fire extinguctions and started having a battle with them. And then quickly the air filled with the chemical in fire extinguishers because it's not like loony tunes. It's not cold foam or CO2 or something. It's some sort of like powdery stuff that makes you choke and cough. And like we almost died in that fucking factory because we climbed up on the second floor. And we were both hacking and a coffin and like. like trying to find our way back out of this place that we've we've never been before. That's that would have been hilarious if like if you died because of that because it took you

so long into a what, what is it like CO2 or some shit and supposed to suck up all the oxygen? No, no, it's a bunch of like again, CO2 ones and there's CO2 ones, there's foam ones. This was some sort of powdery stuff that like when you sprayed it, the whole air became full of this choking. I am just a guest because I when Kyle said how are people so stupid I had a thought and I kept it to myself and we are seeing the difference between like 25 year olds and nearly 40 year olds right at 25 he's like yeah my friends and I we weren't in closed space having fire extinguisher we're 14 we're like 12 14 I'm pictured at that property you bought I guess I was wrong oh no we broke into this place this was not our place 14 year old Kyle was so dumb he had an indoor fire extinguisher battle with his friend. 40-year-old Kyle is like how are people so stupid that they don't know, you know, proper

fire extinguishing technique? It's like a household thing that you should just know. You know, you got to pick that up. I can imagine a world where 14-year-old Kyle doesn't do the right thing. Oh no. And also let's... I was a master of fire at 14. I was a master of fire at 14. All right. I had

started many ablaze. Okay. I had a zipo. I liked to fire a little too much. It was getting a little... Yeah, me too. It was a little scary. You were a fire bug. I had to pull back. Yeah. There were 500 Boy Scout troops at the Boy Scout Jamboree.

And my troop named the Pyromaniacs got first place in the fire starting competition. First place out of 500. And I am still that guy. Will you go camping? I'll get your fire going. Last place in the fire stopping competition. Yeah. That's so funny. You guys must have gone into that being like, this is like, we can't lose this. Like, we cannot lose the fire building competition as the pyromaniacs to the honey to the honeybees. Even just like two years ago, I'm going camping. It's snowing out. It's like coming down. And I'm the first one at the campsite. And, you know, by the time my friends get there, their fire is cooking. And they're like, how'd you do it? I was like, I had a match. I cheated. And he's like, no, but like, what did you?

And I was like, I, you know, went under the snow layer, found the dry leaves, twigs, this and that, built it up largely. He's like, I don't think I could have done that. It's like, yeah, I'm that guy. I'm that guy. I get your fire going. You're the fire guy. Yeah, I don't boast a lot, but I can fucking start a fire. You can fire it up.

I, better than Tyler, at least me, you guys are both elite firemen. Just earlier this week, my girlfriend brought a fire pit over that she wanted to have here, because we spent all our time here, not at her house. And I hadn't done a fire in a long time. And it was like a fire pit situation where like it didn't have been outside. And you know where it gets that like ash layer of previous fires that gets soaking wet. Well, it was it was sobbing wet. And in my head, I'm like, I'm no fucking Eagle Scout, but I know I should lug this heavy ass thing over and then scoop all this out and then dump it and get rid of it. And I was like, like, but that's a lot of annoyance and work.

And I'm also trying to burn a bunch of Sprite zero 12 pack boxes and a bunch of Amazon boxes. And so I was like, and I had maybe like eight logs that were, you know, semi dry, a couple of them mostly dry. A couple of them a little, they were popping when they lit. And I was like, I'm just going to brute force this fire because I can, I can put this top on to make sure that those like dangerous. because I live near a wooded area and so I don't want those like giant flex of like red hot cardboard like floating out

because that's always a stress attack we're like oh no no oh fuck fuck that's how Colin lost his trampoline and so I did the same thing where like I just fed like six 12 packs of cardboard sprite zero into this fire and it would not it was steaming more than it was smoking

because of the amount of feet and I was like feeling like a complete idiot where you know halfway through I'm like I'm like through almost all my cardboard I even went into my garage and like reached into my recycling and got more cardboard out just to feed this thing got it going in the end but certainly not to the level you guys would have respected no I always cheat I've never had to like build one the the like hard way so I would always have one of those little blue propane blow torches and I would almost always use gasoline like there's gasoline always so I would just soak everything in gasoline it didn't matter if it was

moist or wet or what time of here it was. It'll burn if you've got a blow torch and some gasoline. I didn't have any gasoline. I'm going to do gasoline people watching. Make a trail of gasoline to the where you want to start it. And it'll go, don't put your match directly in the gasoline and have it pull off your face. Have you ever seen that guy where they're like in the wilderness and they have a giant

pile of what has to be like scrapwood from a torn down old shed. They're going to rebuild there. It's like a pile higher. than him and they're running around all haphazardly spraying like bottles upon bottles of kerosene on it and i'm like i'm no genius but this doesn't look good and the guy walks up with like a match and it almost like a movie like blows him back because it erupts immediately it turns out gasoline loves fire and it just well it's the vapor so gasoline vapor is heavier than air so when you've got like a brush pile especially where all this crevice is in there and you soak it in gas especially on a hot day

where the sun's baking, it turns into vapor and then it just sits there in this condensed cloud of gasoline vapor, which is how internal combustion engines work, by the way. They sprang a pressurized mist of gasoline vapor and then igniting it. So when you light that stuff, you get it's almost an explosion what happens. If you put gasoline on like a flat cardboard box, you get fire. If you put gasoline in like a bunch of twigs, you get an explosion because the vapors are what blow. Gas burns. Gas vapors explode. Yeah, yeah, you've got to find a safe way of light that, or you'll, at the very least, you'll burn your eyebrows off. They're big and loud explosions.

We had this, we made a huge pile one time. We had cleared off some land, so there were whole trees in there. And then I think we had mushed up a single wide trailer, like people lived in. Mushed it up. What does that mean? You take a bulldozer and you mush it up. So it's a tray, all it is. You've never done that, Taylor?

A single wide trailer is just like. It's like a, the, the base of it is like a trailer that you would put things on. Like, like, don't think house trailer think like cattle trailer or like lumber trailer. And then they build a house on top of that. So you mush all the stuff off the top. And anyway, we had an enormous trash pile of just garbage and trees and stuff. And we soaked that bitch with 10 gallons worth of gasoline and shot it with a flaming arrow from about 30 yards away. Oh, it blew.

We had a bunch of. flaming arrow. Yeah, you take an arrow and you take some cloth or something and you put it on the end and light it up and shoot it out. And it flies pretty straight if you do that, I guess. Yeah, for 30 yards or something. If you've got a real bow, like a compound bow, then the arrow shoots so fast that a lot of times it'll leave the flaming part behind.

Like it'll accelerate and like leave it behind. So I had like a kid's bow though. I'm like a little, little tonto type thing. But the explosion sent these, there were these containers. of I think there were milk jug containers that I think there had been distilled water in them that we used to medicate chickens we mix the distilled water with their medication and then you feed it through a whole system but anyway those there must have 50 of them in there they rained down they went so high in there it was amazing ever since then I loved explosions I was like I was like I was like 12 when that happened and I was like how can we blow up more things dad how can we blow up more things he's like oh that's dangerous don't blow things up and I was like all right I promise I promise I won't make a living on this. Dude, we were making pipe bombs in high school. Like in the metals lab, we were making our pipe bomb.

At school? Not like high school age. That's insane. No one was keeping an eye. Well, we wouldn't like make. So when I say we'd make a pipe bomb, we would make the pipe part and prepare it. We would take a pot. What we were trying to do is make toilet paper cannons.

Because you ever been to a football game and they shoot the cannon off when they score? Yes. that's a toilet paper canon. They've got a black powder charge and a real-ish cannon, and then they just stuff toilet paper in their heart with a packer. And so you get a big boom,

but no projectiles. All you did was burn powder and shoot toilet paper. And we wanted to do that, but we packed it too hard. We took this pipe and we welded it to a flat piece of steel, put a hole in the bottom for the fuse,

put powder in it, and then we started like ramming magazines. We didn't have toilet papers who were like tearing. I had a Cabela's catalog. I remember those things were thick. Magazines. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I'm packing those glossy pages down in there hard as fuck. On top of the powder, why don't we all stand around. And it's like, boom, don't, don't. And I'm in my head, I'm like. After this, you guys, we want to go to a blockbuster? Everybody was down for it. It was me and my three buddies in a field. And like, we lit that thing.

And it did not shoot the magazines out. It exploded into a rain of shrapnel. We were all hiding behind trees, so we were fine. But we kept. doing that. Every day in metals, we would make a new one. We hid behind a rose bush, so there wasn't any trouble. It was a real tree. You know, you can find a three. You're so hard between you and an explosion. Were you upset a little bit? Where you're like, well, we lost our camera. Fuck no. Fuck no. We had discovered something brand new, a pipe bomb, which was way more fun. One time we lit it,

and we had actually polished the pipe part that was welded to the base. And the welds, I guess, were a little bad. So when it went off, it didn't explode. It launched the pipe. And so we had taking a grinder and made this one fancy. We went up and down the rusty pipe and made it shiny like bears stainless steel, not stainless steel, but shiny steel. And when it launched, we all went, like, you could follow it up at the speed of holy fuck into the atmosphere. And then we're all just like, I mean, it's coming down at some point, right?

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's coming down at some point. We don't know where it's going to come. And then we hear, whack, like back in his house. It hit his fucking house, like 150 yards away. And there was just like peeled steel and, like. like smithereens and stuff. Yeah, it was great. Damn.

Metals was awesome. Our Meadows teacher did not give a fuck. The things you guys had to do being that rural to have fun is crazy. Oh, there was, there was, there was, you could never be like, let's go bowling. Mm-mm, 45-minute drive. Let's go to a paintball place. Let's go to Bushwhackers and play paintball. Paintball place is 55-minute drive.

That's the other side of Anderson or, or the other side of Athens. Yeah. Or in my, or in my pasture, where I built my own paintball course where everybody could come and play. You had to do stuff for yourself or make up your own fun or fucking play pretend or some shit

because there wasn't, I mean, we had a movie store, but that was it. That was the peak of entertainment in Livonia, Georgia, was the video store, which is now gone.

How far is Livonia from Hartwell? 12 minutes, 15 minutes, tops. I imagine Hartwell wasn't as built up 20 years ago. I don't know. It was a, it always had the Walmart. and Livonia never had a Walmart. The other Walmart is in Stevens County and like Toccoa, Georgia, where Mount Curry is.

But where we were that time. But yeah, my town didn't have anything. Like, I didn't even grow up near sidewalks. Like, I would get a bike for Christmas every other year or something. Like, I would ask for it and get it. I don't even know what I was thinking. I must have just watched kids on TV who had bikes and they're like, oh, bikes are cool.

Boys have bikes. And where was I going to ride the bitch? I would get on it and like peddling so hard in the grass. literally like there's nowhere to get more of a gravel road like you ever drive tried to drive a huffy on fucking gravel like it doesn't it doesn't work it's rough and you don't get going fast that yeah that I didn't think about the bike angle because I remember getting a bike when I was a little kid and like seeing that as like almost a pre car level of freedom where it was like now I can go to Jared's house I can go to Justin's house I can go to Steve's house

like all within my neighborhood and then I can go to you know so Jared was my friend within neighborhood more than those other guys I'd go by his house but his mom was a fucking bitch she got so mad because she was worried about getting sued because me and Jared and my younger brother had a pillow fight but it was a very aggressive pillow fight and I hit my brother in their house so hard that he fell and he oh he cut his forehead on the fireplace and needed a couple stitches when and and it was because he didn't absorb the blow correctly it wasn't me oh he fell poorly he fell poorly he felt like he felt like girls fall and so i want to knock him but he's always been a bad faller he's always been a bad faller and he blames me also for like at least two other concussions

which were with for accidental and if my parents didn't want me to do what i did to him if they didn't want me to fucking rock bottom him or whatever then bottom is a wrestling move brought to fame by the rock it was probably pre rock me popper I don't remember what the move was but I remember I fucked him up on some concrete on some concrete

floor after we played what year was it was the game we were playing was on N64 98 and so I don't know what the name of it is WCWWWE you probably Goldberg speared him then he was hot back then and like that late late 90s because I remember we were

we were very much into Goldberg. I remember I went on that stupid Christian trip and we weren't allowed to watch Raw. I didn't know anything about wrestling but one of the dads was like a wrestling nerd, which I still, we have people on who like wrestling and I hate to be mean about it, but I find it so pathetic and lame.

I find it so pathetic and lame. Dude, it's just watching it's like watching a play. I do disagree. I think the wrestlers can be charismatic. I like watching their speeches from time to time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm talking about the fandom of it who are in who are like goldberg's on that we gotta watch he's taking on the undertaker

and you see the undertaker he slapped goldberg's cousin last week holy shit he did oh there's gonna be some recompense like but is that how they watch it or they're just watching the storyline on dude but they're saying that shit in the same way that we would have said oh tyrian is locked up with in that sky fort and we need to oh how's he going to get out of this one like It's understood that it's not real. That guy's not sitting there at work. Like, man, I hope he's survived. That guy who's in the stands with a tear in his eye,

upset because the ref wasn't even looking at the fight while the third guy jumped in. And who buys it is less than 1%. Everyone's in on the game. I feel like the only people who buy it. They are now, but 30 years ago they weren't. They didn't come out of the closet as entertainment until they were forced to buy, I think, the federal government.

they had to call themselves entertainment instead of sports yeah yeah but the NFL is qualified as entertainment instead of sports right it's definitely a sport no no but how it's qualified on uh one of the major sports files is entertainment instead of that surprises me especially in the age of sports betting I feel like you have to come out and say we're legit competition I would think but I don't know some some up and down there I could be totally wrong I can't get into it I think it's so silly. You have to get into it as a kid. It's one of those things that if you're like in your 30s, I don't think you're suddenly going to appreciate it because you didn't grow up. I see those guys though. I see those guys who are 30 and 40 and I hate to throw stones because I

like a lot of those guys, but they got the belts and shit. I remember we had a substitute teacher in middle school and he brought his belt in. By the way, not one he'd earned, but a replica of the championship WWE belt. He had it. And we were like, how much that cost? And he's like, $1,200. Aren't you? Isn't it cool guys? And even at middle-in-like 2000? Whenever I was in sixth grade, when I was 11, and I remember being 11 years old and thinking, you're a loser. You're a loser. I hope I don't turn out like you. Like, you're a loser, dude. This is pathetic. Right. He needs to play video games like a real man. I mean, there's no wrong playing a video. Like, all right, all right, so you could take that.

But if I went and bought like a $1,200 sword from the game I play, like that would be a little weird too, especially if I flexed it to little children. Like if I had it in my attic and I kept it at home, but what if I took it to a, what if I were a substitute teacher? And I went in there and I was like, hey, guys, you want to see a halo needler? Check it out. It actuates. Dude, you're winning me over because if you showed up with a halo needler and like earnestly tried to get me to give a fuck, I'd be like, Kyle's a fucking homo. I'm going to tell Harley you guys said this. Harley doesn't bring his toys to school.

I bet when he was a sudden teacher. He totally brings his toys to the podcast. I love, well, you know, this does not apply in any way to our boys, Harley, and also Santys app. That guy's tight. I love Santy. I love these guys. And also, as Kyle's throwing stones at people, Spitz.

FromSoft is coming out with a game next year called Dustblood. It only runs on the Nintendo Switch 2. I'm going to end up being in the hole for like. $700, I can play this one stupid fucking video game. Wait, it, being an exclusive to a Switch 2 does not sound in the vein of that genre at all. Oh, I completely agree. I have to assume they got the bag. That they're like, all right, first $30 million, if you were making exclusive on here,

something that made it worth it. There's got to be other Switch 2 games you can enjoy because that would blow to buy by a console from a single game like Mario Mario Kart Mario Party when people come over sometimes but I think what's going to happen is the Switch 2 is going to live in this office

for a couple of months maybe even a year and then it'll go downstairs where everyone likes it I'm not into handhelds I don't think I would What about the Steam one? That seems pretty cool.

The Steam one seems like the best one to me because of this because of Steam and you can just run it like a little mini PC but I still don't want a handheld I don't have a use case for it Now if I had a commute If I sat on a train for an hour a day Or if I like

You're something like that Or if I frequented airports If I was always at the airports And there was nothing to do Like yeah we need a steam deck I'm fucking play Baldur's Gate I know it runs Baldur's Gate

That'd be so fun But I don't have a use case for that I'm yeah I already got a PC The switch is pretty cool too Like I have a switch one And granted like The best times with that

are like it's the best party game like social game set up because games like mario card everybody can pop in it's not serious the rounds take three four minutes like you you roll through people it's casual uh no other console really has that like because split screen doesn't seem to be a thing anymore with shooters like you can't really have everybody hang out the way we used to when i was in high school and be like we're going to play cod too and we're going to have it on split screen and then we're all going to yell at each other about your screen peek And it's like, no-uh, but I was. I was a screen peaker.

Do you think COD 2? Cod 2 was, yeah, that's the one where it was like that, it came out in 05, so like early high school for me. And there was that one, what was the map where it was like all sand and sandy city? We played that one a lot. It had to be Africa, Northern Africa. Maybe it was northern Africa, but it was a lot of buildings, sandy city. Everything was tan toned.

And we had to have limits on like only one sniper per two-person team. Because the snipers were beyond broken in that game. You didn't even have to get close at time to kill me. I played COD2, but only because I had so much time in COD 4, which I started with. I wanted to see what else there was. You know what? You're right. Hutch was playing cod four.

He played COD2. And I'm like, I can buy the COD2 used and see, you know, I'm like, he made it seem like fun. But it was. came out and it flopped and we so we were on our second year of Cod 4 and we're so burnt out on it and he was like you know what I'm gonna and he started making Cod 2 videos and it was like yeah let's all get Cod 2 like Hutch

I'm in an alternate universe say Wings of Redemption isn't the Cod 5 guy and instead exists in the more popular but more crowded cod 4 universe I wonder if his channel is better or worse same probably similar yeah the community was so much smaller back then

I mean, this was 15 years ago, right? I mean, you saw like, Cienaners did really well with Cod five. It was, it was more about who was making the videos than. Cieners was huge even then. Like, it was, it was him and Hutch at the tippity top. And everybody else was a bit behind it at like the beginning of Codd. I think Huch was up there, Tabe was there. And Cieners went to join him later.

Hutch was the one hired by Machinima. And to me, they were clearly on different tiers until Ciener got hired. next. How long was that gap? You probably remember better. No, I'm going to call it nine months, but I'm not sure. I thought it was brief because I remember the big guys at the time were Hutch, C-Nanners, Wings of Redemption. You were on the upswing, but you weren't quite at them yet in like 2010. I want to say, Pyro Puncher, Taibes, Sam 5,000. That's the name I haven't thought of in forever. I was around a lot. I remember the old guys. That guy who Camps comes to mind.

That guy who camps Who was the guy that sniper montages? Is it where Gris? Gris and Gris was huge but he's a predator.

He was the optic guy right? No, who made the bounce cod montage? He made, he was M40A3 Predator before he was optic predator.

Oh is it? Wait, the bounce montage. I don't know what that is. Yeah. Hmm. Okay. He made a

video every year called bounce and it was like something that people would look forward to and oh uh was it operator perry no he was the guy that would be like quad yeah was it uh who else was even around back then um muza faza he was around for a couple years in uh the early 2010s yeah i remember mazafaza it might have been him. I forget. I don't recall. Yeah, I remember it was neat to see people do the sniper montages, one, because the shots were kind of cool. They got faker and faker, but also the editing, you know, the art behind making a montage grew from just a collection of good shots to sinking to the beat

and things. I was such a fan of Zerg and his editor, because I remember when he made the Matrix montage, and he took, they added this map to cod for, um, broadcast like midway through its cycle it wasn't a very loved map but in it were all these tv sets and he like edited it so that like you hear morphius is like talking and he's like do you really believe that's air you believe you're breathing and it's like and he's like animated the cod four characters so they're like doing stuff that they're not really doing and then like you like look at the screen that's in the game and you slowly zoom in on it as morphius gives you like

dialogue and there's gameplay in there that you that and then it does it was this one sort of like and you're in the game now it was the gris matrix revolutions by here it's that it's that it's that music it's like dun dun dun dun dun dun and he's like he's like got two deagles now which is impossible and he's wall running upside down and like man that blew my mind back in the day i love that so much dude i remember being like a little annoyed back in the day when people would be like oh have you seen zizzer grizz's new montage and it's like the whole point of the way his name is spelled is that it's just gris both ways his name just say griz it's not zizz or griz it's not even spelled zizz or gris it's zer gris i remember people saying zizzar griz

but it was like it's just gris it's just gris he was sir gris i thought it was gris it's zergris it's Got to be gris, bro. Come on. Why would he spell it that way? If you want to give him a nickname, you know. It says familiar enough with the man that he chose by Gris in Taylor's presence. He's a buddy. I call you, Kyle.

Other people call you Mr. Myers. I mean, I call him, I mean, I call him Mike personally. You know, I, I, I don't know, to use his name. Fair, fair. I'd be respectful. Yeah, he was the guy. I remember, like, in high school, because this was what? 20 or I guess not high school it was college but I would show people this in college and because we were also into cod and that was sick what a fun little time now now lost to time nobody really does that well it's not the thing anymore that you know those montages although I watch now I watch these like battlefield like best plays of the day and every single day there's a there's a 20 minute long montage because so many people submit clips I like but they're not as good though I like

the high editing, the music and everything from the old ones. But you know when the cod montages fell off is when sniper lobbies became a thing and then you started realizing every single incredible kill this person is getting he's shooting guys in gilly suits. No one's running around with an MP5

trying to mow him down. He's killing people who are also trying to 720. It became G unit like bullshit. You know, and it's like, what am I watching? These set up shots, people running down the same hallway for not zirgris though i i played with him a lot and and what would happen is people would just join like it would become a thing where people would just join on us our session and it would slowly become not even slowly within two games it would be a sniper lobby and you'd

have to start a new lobby to get any would be like fuck all right everybody sniping let's reset like because he didn't want that like appearance that that because it is way easier to get those shots on a bunch of snipers who are just i just went to g units champs No. G unit 1, 2, 3. His most recent upload is one year ago, and the top comment is fake you faked a nuke, bro.

Fake nuke, fake nuke. 14 years later and the nuke still gets brought up. We were mad. That almost made me quit making videos. When I saw that, I was like, well, what's the point? You can't compete with that? Do you remember I remember I watched it. I didn't watch many of

of Hutch's commentaries, but I remember when he worked for Machinima, there was one video he made about the G unit thing where he was commenting on a gameplay on terminal in Modern Warfare 2. And it was like a level of seriousness that is kind of silly for call of duty, but it was addressing it like an addressing the nation style thing where he's like, this is unacceptable. This is not what our community is about. We don't need these sorts of things here. We need to be trusting of one another. And this is how we're going to grow the game and grow the community. And at the time, I remember watching him being like,

you fucking tell them much. Dude, it got a million views. Like, it got a million views in a time where none of us got a million. Oh, yeah. Nobody did. Like, like, my, like, FPS Russia, Modern Warfare 2 stuff would get like quarter million views. And those were home runs.

And this kid hit a million off this fake, clearly set up nonsense. everybody was mad and I don't just mean and he lied about it too he didn't he lied about it and then he continued to make more and more face videos he's like you know what did he do he was like if you just make a circle nades don't hurt you were like he had all sorts of bullshit that wasn't

true and sharp eyed people would realize like the opponents were the same friends and all these different videos yeah he as you were talking about old hutch stuff I watched a video. Hutch and Sark used to, like, go outside and do stuff. Hutch was pale, incredibly pale as pale as a human's ever been. And they were teasing him as he's like standing in the shade of a tree.

And he put his hand out, like to let the sun hit it. And he goes, ooh, like he's a vampire. I still steal that joke like 15 years later. And replayed it. Dude, Sark was hilarious. I don't know what he's up to now or what became of him. feels like he, or at least in my view, I don't know what he's up to, but he was very funny back in that. He was my favorite of the Machinima cast of characters.

He was really good. I also think he was a good mentor for the young people that worked at Machinima. You know, this is a company run by a couple of fucking cokeheads debauchery and, you know, running the thing into the ground through greed and bad decisions. And then you have Sark, somehow a noble person ending up there guiding the youngsters. It was good. I remember, like, everybody. at that time kind of deferred to Woody as like the adult in the room oftentimes because like thinking about like 15 years ago Woody's 37 the rest of us are retarded children effectively

and so like when Woody was like you know this is I went to Machinima they were doing a lot of drugs and it wasn't like cool it's like this is our business and it's like yeah you know if you hadn't been here I would have thought oh sick tight because I'm because I'm because I'm 19 and I just signed that perpetuity $2.00 contract. Yeah, they're creditors. Like a couple of years after they made us all sign that, or you guys were big enough, you probably didn't have to.

But like that $2 per thousand perpetuity contract where like then some rules changed. And they were like, hey, we just sent you. And I remember getting the email. They were like, hey, we just sent you a new contract. Can you go ahead and sign that and send it back to us? And I was like, I don't. remember who I message may have been what he may have been someone else but I was like uh they have

a new contract for me where it says that now I make less money but I'm already locked in with this perpetuity contract like do I need to do anything and whoever I was talking to was like do not sign that like do not opt in to less money just keep doing your thing and I was like you know what yeah he's right because I don't get money they never put my videos on a shimma anyway those guys fumbled the bag so hard like people talk about going back in time and and buy a Bitcoin or whatever. We knew then. And by we, I mean,

me and Sam, X-Jaws, like we'd be talking about it. And I was like, dude, what are they doing? You know how much money they'd spend on that Mortal Kombat shit?

Why didn't they fly out 30 of us and have the biggest tournament on the internet? Why didn't they send us all somewhere and make a ton of vlogs? Why would they, it was expensive. They spent like $800,000 or it was a million maybe on that Mortal Kombat bullshit they did, some sort of live action shit.

And we were all like, what is this? What is this thing? It was terrible. I think I know how the genesis of how decision that bad gets made. They were in Hollywood. They were in Hollywood and they were probably influenced by other people making content and fancied themselves as content creators when really they were agents. They should have set up win-win deals where everyone wanted to be a part like represented

by the Machinima agency and they'd still be around. Instead, they set up win-lose deals where they'd get their. the money and, you know, fuck, fuck over everyone who worked with them and found themselves out of business. Yeah. It was such a, it was such a huge fumble. We were saying it then, like, like, dude, have you, have you been there? Have you seen how much staff they have?

I'm like, what are they doing? Yeah. What are they actually doing? They needed a fucking, I didn't use the word audit, but that's what they needed. They needed somebody to come in and be like, so what would you say it is you actually do here on the day to day? I'm a people person. I made an effigy of Woody last week.

We all had a good time of that. Yeah. Those guys hated me, but fuck them. They're a bunch of dumbass. They're criminals. They were criminals. Yeah. I don't know why you ate Woody.

He was a huge guy in the space and also, I didn't think you were hard to get along with it. Yeah, I don't know. Like, people who ate at me didn't know me. Like, I remember I went to the little cube farm and someone had. had my face on like a Benedict Arnold's like body and I'm like, who sits here? Why is that on the wall of his cube? In retrospect, did I negotiate a better contract? That makes me a fucking Benedict Arnold suck my giant dong.

You're out of a job and I am retired, so suck off. Every time I went there, it was just a bunch of people playing video games and just wasting money in time. There was nothing to be... All they were doing was taking videos from people and putting them on their channel. And it was like, where, how do you have all these employees? Why are we in Hollywood right now?

What is this real estate cost? Like this, what does this cost a day? How much you're burning money? What are you doing? Who was the guy that we sent the videos to that like approved them or did? I cannot remember his name. I remember talking to him and like messaging him.

Shore Wars? Maybe it was Shore Wars. Wars. You might be right. Yeah. That's it. And I forget who's the like cod community leaders and who is the the machinima guy. But yeah, not JD 2020. Sure Wars. And there would be times where I'm like, hey, I've got like four videos in the Dropbox. Like, and I haven't had anything uploaded in, you know, four months on the machinima channel. Can you give me an idea of when the next one is? And they're like, he'd be like, open your mouth. I'm going to fucking spit in it. I'm going to spit in your fucking mouth right now if you want a video up and it was like fuck this sucks because

and then it was just hey but guess what we got time for fucking seven junkyard quickies today yeah I sent a video that was like me shooting guns like maybe the first one ever and it sat in that drop box for like a week and I took it out and uploaded it and it got like 1.2 million views

on a 300,000 subscriber channel and I was like fuck those jabonies we don't need them yeah I didn't like putting stuff on their channel maybe I missed out but it got to the point where they uploaded like 12 videos a day and I'm like, this isn't really a great exposure opportunity. I'd rather make money on my channel and build my brand than make money on your channel and build your brand.

Now, yeah, so I just stopped sending them videos. They were like asking me to send them videos. They were like offering me editing support and stuff like that. And it was just like, not even going to upload 14 times a day. There was no reason for you guys too, because you guys were like early first wave of like who they signed. But I needed them to give me. a hand because I was early second wave and then they had

a third and a fourth and a fifth and they just started to sign and fuck everybody and then it was a glut of nonsense where it's like how are you supposed to get recognized in this? Because we're training the machinima subscribers now that they don't really need to pay attention to their subbox because they really they don't care about these

new people. I think I got like three videos uploaded on Machinima ever and then I stopped putting anything in the drop box. It could have hurt me that my intro at the time was like hey what's up faggots but like maybe not i don't know but maybe not it was a different world actually that was a good deal like early on it was a great deal when they weren't doing all those uploads because i would get like thousands of subscribers i'd sit there and watch them just let go and it's like man we just got exposed to their millions and millions of

viewers and people like it and they're coming on board but after a while it's like you said when they started uploading a dozen videos a day it was like they they shot the goose. Then it was like, oh, send it to respawn instead. It's like, wow, an even smaller channel. The channel that at this point is significantly smaller than Woody's, smaller than Wings, smaller than Kyle, smaller than X-Jaws, smaller than maybe Sam 5,000 was up there too. White Boy. His name is in my head. Oh, I can't believe I forgot White Boy. He was big. White Boy was so good at games. He was great. And like, that's why he got so much play. When he was saying with me, I watched him play on my 72-inch, uh,

with tons of input lag on my shitty internet with tons of like lack and he's just destroying and on my Xbox and I'm sitting there like damn it I ain't got no more excuses it turns out this guy's just way way way better than me at this game yeah so good so good but he lobby shopped what he would like his win loss ratio was like point one percent anytime he was in a lobby with good players he quit I had have been bad win loss too because I would also like if it got to a point where I was like we can't recover this I would just quit

he was good like I played against him and lost so I'm not saying he's a bad player just that like that's how he got those you know outrageous games he'd quit first death and try it well I mean I know a lot was my problem I never once had an outrageous machinima worthy game because I was more in it for the talking. And so it'd be like, hey, can you put this 31 and 4 game up? And they're like, no,

fuck yourself. Like, we've got a G unit as far as we know real nuke. And we've got a white boy 106 and oh where he goes ham with like one chopper. What was it? Chopper gunner. I think it was. That was the big boy back in the day. White boy had figured out with his giveaways too. He would he would pretend maybe he was giving away those PSN cards I doubt it he'd say he was given away and he'd get so much interaction

all them kids would click fucking like and subscribe and like all you gotta do to win this $15 and subscribe and like and comment and tell one more person about my video and you would watch you would watch the video that was just I mean it was good gameplay

it was like it was Black Ops 1 but it would just blow up he'd get 300,000 views of video or something like that from all that internet that was a huge that was a big ass controversy back in the day i cracked down on oh they cracked down it right before i got involved i was i remember i was i was already doing fs russia stuff we were in seattle on some like work trip or something maybe we're in an award show or something but i remember hearing that white boy had started the the psn giveaway stuff maybe it started like giving away an xbox or something i'm like

fuck that we're giving we're giving a car away let's just go get a car and give it away you know like like get a car I mean, these videos make a $25,000, $30,000 a video. Let's give a car away next week. Let's break even. It's Mr. B shit. Yeah. And right then, I think Hutch and all the like, what should I call them? Sort of the high priests of them.

The moral compass of the call of duty community, they all came in and they were like, these giveaways have to stop. This is wrong. This is immoral. And everybody was like, yeah, it is wrong and immoral. Meanwhile, it's like, as far as my memory, as far as my memory, memory serves, Hutch and C-Nanners were both anti the giveaway thing and they were both at machinima at the time. And this is what Woody has alluded to before where they both realized

soon after their contract with Machinima if they signed it that they had made a terrible decision because now they were making oodles of money for the company. And meanwhile, the white boys out there were making 10x what they were. And so like that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the machinima internals hating on it always struck me as like a little tower graying near commies hour gray seen anders made a video hating on me and these were the thing the offenses

I did yeah I uploaded daily which is oh my god you money whore and attention grabbing thumbnails and I think that one might have been aimed at white boy who did rainbow thumbnails and uh it's like really attention grabbing thumbnails and daily upgrades are evil to you

are there any other like like capitalism. That was total sour grape shit. They're just giving sour grapes. The things they want in total sour grapes. It was a bunch of fucking I have a thing. The fucking nanosecond

C-Nanners started making money off his own videos, daily upgrades or daily uploads, and attention grabbing thumbnails. You know, he's all moral when he's not making money off his videos. It's not even moral. He's just a jealous bitch. And I bet the old version of him now, like the

adult, if he happens to see this, is like, yeah i was an envious little cunt making hate videos about people because you were making money and i wasn't because i signed a contract that was clearly a bad idea i remember i i didn't even like throw shade he was nice to me at the dance i remember when one of it was obviously a bad idea to sign everyone who knew anything about what we were making knew it was like a writing on the wall thing of like it's about to fucking tip dude you're going to sign for a just a yearly contract when you see all these people ramping up, making tons of money, like building it. I'm not, I did not like that part of the drama of the sphere.

Yeah, that was really wrong. Yeah. And it was a huge, but I remember when, I won't say which one, but one of them signed their contract. They were one of the first people who got that Machinima, like, I'm going to work here in the offices. No, when they're working in the offices at Machinima, and now we're on salary. And I was like, well, I better be paying him half a million dollars a year, huh? And that's still going to fall short of what he would have done. Like, do them fucking math.

It's easy. They signed for like 65 a year in Hollywood. It was a while ago. I know they were making five digits for a while. I think they crossed six while they were there. I'm not sure about that. That's what I had no inkling, but I always guessed that it was some like $70,000 a year job early on or something like that. And I was just like, you fucked up.

You have fucked up so hard. Like, why would you ever sign this if there wasn't like some sort of like second level to this contract or something like that? You should have had salary and AdSense is what it should have been. They should have been getting paid a cut of all that content. They were making, when Hutch and Sark were making all those videos there, they should have gotten a cut of that. Like, like, they were so successful. It was the whole thing. I wonder though, like, okay, obviously CNOs did max amount of.

didn't maximize how much money he earned when he was working at Machinima. But did that exposure, you know, help him out? Like, what is the alternative universe where he was just a freelancer the whole time? He was already enormous. That's why they hired him.

Yeah, you're right. I mean, he was... He invented Minecraft because he was the only reason that the entire Codd community... Santa Claus shit, really? ...knew about Minecraft. Maybe you don't remember.

I thought Hutch invented Cod. It's not weird. he was the first person to like make videos of the game and and alpha Minecraft was so simplistic it looked like he had made it like it looked like shit it was just blocks and you going and hitting them and it was he was like oh god this it's still it is and no it's lots

it goes on now like it's it's much different game than it than it was initially there's all sorts of things going on it looks a little better but people have built actual functioning CPUs with the circuitry in game. Like, people build calculators. What you can do with that game is outrageous, but it does look simple.

Yeah, but he was the first exposure that it felt like the internet had to Minecraft. Like, I had never heard that nobody had. Yeah. And he was the only one. He was playing it. Minecraft might be the most bought PC game ever. I feel like Tetris should be or something

like that, but it's one of the most successful games ever made and uh i wonder you know this alternate universe that didn't have seen anners pimpet how that turns out i bet it still does well it's just so it's so lego-ish and we know the success of lego like it it appeals to young like boys in particular young men trying to like build stuff um i think it still would have done pretty solid even without seen aners because there were other big guys, too. Do you remember Captain Sparkles? Yes.

You remember him? Did you know him before he was Captain Spark. Proz don't talk shit. I remember playing Crackdown with C.Nanders, pros don't talk shit and spoonerism or one of those guys. And I remember listening as we were all playing it. This is 2011, I bet. And CNanders was like giving a.

like a tip fest to pros don't talk shit and he's like hey if you like want to be big here you can't have that kind of language in a Minecraft like focused community so I would recommend you make it something softer and I think like as a joke he was like I'll be captain sparkles and then now he's got like 12 million subscribers I thought he kind of retired he was really nice guy though I like I saw an article on the home he bought and I was like, holy smokes, if I remember, right, it's like the house you'd expect Tom Hanks to live in. It's like on the cliffside overlooking the Pacific Ocean. It's concrete and mostly glass looking all modern. I wonder if I can find Captain Sparkle's house. Sick. Good for him.

I don't know much about him because it was 15 years ago. Last time I talked to him, 14 years ago, but he was always nice. I've never seen him or seen one of his videos before. I've never seen one of his videos. Oh, I bet you have. I don't know because he made these musical Minecraft videos that did so well. Yeah.

Oh, I did see one of those. Well, that is not. That's what I was looking for. Yeah. That home is not a, like, it's not even an everyday wealthy person's home. This is a, he's wealthier than wealthy people.

He's elite as hell. Yeah. For sale currently is what Zach says. What's it going for? It's in California. Let's guess. Don't fight. All right.

Wait, where is this? What Zach type exactly in the neighborhood and where it is before you say that? I'm going to say Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, Hollywood Hills. Hollywood Hills. I mean, I want you, Kyle, I want you to go first because I respect you and I want you to set the anchor point so that I can go from there. 9 million.

I'm going to say 6 million. I'm going to say 8.2 million. Oh, you gave yourself a narrow little window. What's it going for? 4 million. Oh, a bargain. Homes are never as expensive as you.

That's what I meant. You look at boats and it's like 150 million. Oh, my God. It's so much money. Somehow houses never get into like the 75 million range, like very rarely. Like Mar-a-Lago, the whole complex is what? Oh, who's been? Tyler Perry.

Show us Tyler Perry's house here in Atlanta, Zach. Tyler Perry's house is bananas. I've seen the screen. Good for him. Two thumbs up to Tyler Perry's house. That's a sick-ass house. What does he do? I know the name.

He makes black people. Medea goes to jail. Medea goes to the man. He's basically like a He's basically like a There's a parking garage with a tennis court on it But where is it? He's a wildly more successful

Ernest Like imagine if Ernest goes to the zoo If that guy was looking in a fucking $20 million house The thing about Captain Sparkle's home that blew me away Was the location, right? He's in what Hollywood Hills on the side of a cliff Like that is prime real estate Unless you have to be there, why would you go and live in, if you have that, this is something I just don't get.

You've got $4 million for a house, if that's what it is worth them. And your job does not necessitate you being in L.A. or New York. Networking. Why would you not, well, no, no, that's what I'm saying is if it necessitates that, then sure. But if you're an online commentator guy, you could buy a insane compound somewhere else, and that would be sick. I, you can get 10x the land, or actually not 10x the land. That's farcicle. A hundred X the land and a bigger house on that land if you go somewhere other than L.A., New York. I mean, I wouldn't want to live in L.A. Like if I had my choice of $4 million homes anywhere, like I wouldn't pick the L.A. one. You know what I mean? So I don't get it. But I'm willing to bet that networking is what he would say. I bet that it was helpful to live in that town. I know that's what I always hear from guys who do that and they pay your networking is all in fucking Discord. I want to hear what T-Mart thinks about that because T-Mart moved to Hollywood, partly for networking.

He, Gold Glove and someone else like got a place together. Jericho maybe? Sam did as well. And I think part of their goals are networking. And there were times when I felt like I missed out on some networking stuff. I certainly missed out on some like video game premieres and stuff like that. where locals would go and see a game that hadn't come out yet

and I'm on the wrong side of the country but now that it's done and I think T-Mart moved to Florida does he feel like living in Hollywood gave him a leg up or he could have lived somewhere else and had the same career I wonder I don't know and granted

Trevor was always like a cool guy I always liked Trevor but I didn't watch his video just like all my buddies in the cod sphere, I didn't watch their videos as much as like, I, I just didn't watch their videos that much. And so maybe he would say that, but he does so many independent videos. If you go through his history of his most successful stuff, it's like, it's not him collabing. It's him doing T. Martin 2, where he does very regular, like religious uploads daily constantly for years on end. And that's the sort of grind you need to be successful in that. And that, you mean religiously

uploading not religious uploads right he's not well he also he also tried to get us you know he had a brief harry krishna mark other than that after that time he shaped his head and it cost to me at the airport i should reach out of him i was like the center t martin onsla and i played game so much every night that like we didn't set it up we're just like yeah everyone's going to be online around this time it goes without saying that we're we're murking nobs tonight You mentioned Ernest, Jim Varney, is the actor. Did you watch those movies? Yes, I liked the Ernest movies.

How many? Which ones have you seen? I liked Ern-I mean, fuck, dude. I feel like he went to camp once, and I thought that was funny. Ernest goes to camp. Yep. Ernest goes to prison. Ernest scared stupid. Ernest goes to Africa.

And I think Ernest saves Christmas. That's my criterion collection. Every time Taylor, like, sees every earnest movie but hasn't seen Terminator 2 I'm like this is criminal you've never seen you've never seen Ernest goes to prison

oh you're crazy thing I'm a subtext in societal I'm just a fan of Jim Varney like I think he's an awesome guy like he started off I think he's dead right yeah I think he was from Tennessee and he started off in these like local commercials that became

so like before things could go viral because there was no internet these local commercials became like a viral thing and he was doing the earnest character you know what I mean burn and he's like come on down to gyms buy buy it cheap and you'll get yourself a deal know what I mean burn and it and it was always there were people falling off ladders and he was always like hijinks and stuff in these commercials and then they spun that into his whole movie career he's a classically trained actor like there are photos of him doing hamlet like holding the skull and like doing shakespearean plays and stuff and if you think

about it, he has a wonderfully, like, I don't know how to, his voice is amazing. When he doesn't fake that accent, he sounds very... He's a gravelly voice when he doesn't fake. It's a powerful, like, classic, classically trained actor voice. It's really good. But I love those movies as a kid. Ernest Scared Stupid was one of my favorite movies as a child. Trolls attack the town. And I think Ernest is a garbage man and he has to rally the children together to fight the trolls. And it turns out their weakness is milk. So at the end, they're using every format of milk to kill them. They've got like water guns with milk.

They've got powdered milk bombs. And it's like burning them like acid and stuff. Love those. Speaking of like early internet viral videos, do you remember, oh my goodness, you had a coffin fit just there. Yeah, a little one. Do you remember Montgomery Flea Market? No.

You don't remember. I don't know what that is. It was a black guy who was selling furniture at a Montgomery flea market from 20 years ago. And that was one of the first viral videos I ever saw. It was just a black guy in like a tan suit or something standing in front of some fucking furniture. It has to be at least 15, 20 years ago. This came out. It had to be more than 15 years ago because it was one of the first viral videos I ever remember seeing outside of like Numa Numa Y and stuff.

It was the first YouTube viral video, I should say, that I saw. Because there were a decent amount. 13 million views. It was a, there were quote unquote viral videos on like albino black sheep or eBombs world back then. But viral at that time was like maybe hundreds of thousands. Like there just weren't enough people online in 2004 for something to go millions. Ellen picked it up and did a special on it. And I think that helped make it blow up.

But yeah, 18 million views. Yeah. Or I think that's what it was. Let's see. Wait, Woody, do you remember? 13 million, 18 years ago. I was talking about the first, like, YouTube viral video I remember that started on YouTube to my knowledge. So like not Numa, not these other things.

Do you remember Montgomery flea market? Maybe I would if I saw it. I would see. It's a black man in an ill-fitting suit. Selling furniture, I think. Don't you dare disrespect him. I'm just saying this is he. That's my president.

I'd be better than the one we have. Oh my God. Oh my fucking God. Every day Trump is frightening me more. Look at how bad the quality is of the Montgomery Fleet Market video showing all this tragedy. Quality back then. It was.

In 2000, it was 20, what was 18 years ago? 2007. And go. It's too weird. Oh, we got to talk about the politics. We're an hour deep. Yeah, because we got MMA guru popping in. All right.

So I want to do an over and a bet on when the government shut down will end because. What's that now? I'm going to take a stance here, a little risky. I think it's lasting into next year. Is any, the end of next year? Are you under that? No, no, no, no. Can I get you both on the under of that?

No, no, no, no. You've got to be more specific. You can't just say in the next year is that's crazy you have to be more 14 months away, right? No, no, no, you miss heard me or maybe I misspoke. What I mean, it won't end until next year. Like, I believe it'll be January 1st or later when the government shut down. No, that's not specific enough. You've got to give a date.

That's what an over and under that is, Taylor. Well, how do you know if you're over or under near the end? I've said it. Like, I've taken. Oh, so January 1st is the over under? That's what I'm, I'm offering that over and under. The question that you have to answer is, do you believe strongly that it will be under that?

I think it's under. I also, I agree with Woody. I think it's going to be the under. If January 1st, 2000, let me add another one over under Thanksgiving. You got 20 days for that. I'm going to, I think I'm going to say under. Wow.

Kyle, the record in shutdown has maybe just been passed. A couple days ago, yeah. Yeah. So we're, we just busted the, by the way, there's been more government shut down under Trump than the rest of the United States combined. There was just an election that the Democrats slaughtered and all the Democrats need, they only need seven Democrats to cross the aisle to get it done. None have done it yet, but I don't know. Dude, Thanksgiving is a much harder line than your initial one. Will seven Democrats cross the aisle before Thanksgiving?

he took he took 40 days away the other option taylor is to get rid of the filibuster there's two ways to end it oh they won't do that nobody's that stupid they should let's get wild let's get fun so taylor it's funny you said that because i don't i was on the fence about ending the filibuster when Biden was trying to pass his infrastructure bill i was like these two turncoat democrats aren't get yada yada now i'm like oh my gosh right that if they had removed the filibuster guarantee guarantee the Republicans would be doing it right now. Sure. So let's fast forward.

When the Democrats are trying to make D.C. and Puerto Rico states and get four more senators, when the Democrats are trying to rebalance the Supreme Court to be more even than this sort of, I don't like the way it's done now. This like luck of the draw, whoever happens to get it gets it. If the Democrats try to redo that and they get rid of the filibuster so that they can pass it when like, you know, you might feel a different way about it. when you're not in charge. Oh, no, I'm not saying, I think it's a good thing.

I'm saying I could see them doing it. Oh, I thought you were suggesting they should do it. Oh, well, to be silly. But, and who knows, it would make it wilder if whatever party was in charge was just passing a bunch of stuff and then the next party gets in charge and they undo all that stuff and pass even more extreme stuff. And then the next party gets in charge and they undo that. I heard a theory that was interesting.

Except the controlled opposition party is going to get butt fucked in that situation, which is the Republicans will lose, guaranteed. I've heard people say, that politicians like the filibuster because it gives them cover to say I want to do this but I can't and if you get rid of the filibuster then it's like what has stopped you

why didn't you do what you said you would do you can't just blame those other guys whoever you are there's other guys you can't just blame the other guys for the reason you don't have all the things you want you're right like there is nothing politicians value more than the ability to pass the buck

and none of them want to be have none of them want to have their feet held to the fire And so I could see both parties keeping the filibuster just so they can do exactly what you said. What do you mean? I can't enact change. You just got to vote for me again, guys. Sorry. Maybe this time.

So this is about continuing the Affordable Health Care Act. Is that what this is? About continuation of it? The government shutdown and by the link you're talking about. Oh, what I was talking about? Polymarket. The government shutdown. It's over the continuation of the Affordable Health Care Act.

And partly, I think it's over. So the big beautiful bill defunded Medicare by quite a bit in an effort to balance it to some extent. It still cost a lot of the tax cuts that they put in the bill. And it's really take from the poor, give to the rich. Democrats want to give back to the poor, but no one's trying to take from the rich. That's outrageous, of course. So they were trying to undo the Medicare and Medicaid removals that were done in the Big Beautiful Bill. And the Republicans are accusing them of wanting to provide health care to illegals, which is pretty much inaccurate.

Well, no, it is a it's like a shell game with that where you can accurately say these funds directly from the Fed are not going to supply health care to illegals. But those funds from the Fed go to fund things like. Medi-Cal, which is the state-run operation in California and like meta-washington, like all their versions. And then those state-run operations who receive most of their funding from the feds, then do give money to illegals. So my understanding is the way that illegals get free health care is someone goes to the hospital, they get a bill and they don't pay it. And Medicaid reimburses that bill. The hospital does not do a citizen check on their patients before they treat them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go to the hospital, of course, are citizens. And that's

where the money goes. But there is some slice of them that are illegal aliens that the hospital gets reimbursed anyway. They don't just stiff the hospital because the guy wasn't a citizen and they treated, they treated him. And honestly, I don't have a solution to fix that. You can't just- Deportations, brother, pounded. Well, yeah, if they didn't do it in the first place, I hear you. But, like, I mean, okay, here's the thing. People on motorcycles. It is uncomfortable sometimes to have a wallet in your pocket. So they put the wallet stored on the bike.

It's completely reasonable that a citizen could end up in the hospital with no ID on him because it's sitting in his motorcycle. It's completely reasonable that someone was in a swimming accident and doesn't have his driver's license on him when he gets treated. You can't just not treat people who don't have ID on them. I don't think anyone's suggesting that. Like, you have to treat- Well, that's the only way I know to, like, do a citizen check.

I know not too often. You deport these people so that they can't take advantage of our welfare programs, and then our tax dollars will actually go to helping Americans. So Zach wrote using your social would take care of the issue. No, I'm talking about people who can't. Yeah, these are victims brought in by ambulance. Which, by the way, is the people who need the assistance the most. They got, he's laying there dying.

He has a brain injury. Oh, he looks kind of brown. Does he look brown to you? Check out those shoes. What kind of shoes are the A6? He's wearing A6? This guy's wearing a soccer jersey, strike one. This guy's name's Rinaldo.

Look, his name's right on the back of this thing. You treat undidentified people and identify them later. Otherwise, people die. Yeah, and yeah. So, look, even if there were a guy who was wearing a shirt that says, I'm illegal, and he ran up and said, hey, I'm illegal, just so you know. And then a box fell on his head and he was crippled out there, bleeding and dying. I'll chip in to save that worker's wife.

Is he like a dog's car? Is he accordion? No, he kind of hits him. He's his left side. It cripples him up real good. The box sitting here and he ran through a wall, left a human-sized hole. I don't want to be in the country that lets people die on the street, regardless of where they're fucking from.

I don't be in that country. We don't want that. But we can avoid the lead up to it by just deporting people. The illegal thing is just a lie they're telling to make defunding health care. more popular. Well, lots of illegal people do get health care. That's not made up. That's what Twitter would tell you.

But that's not what Twitter, you can look at the day. Should we Google what percentage of money goes to illegal aliens? I bet it's under 10. I bet it's under five. 10% is a lot. Well, how much, how much, how much is 10%? Are we talking about a million dollars, 10 million, 100 million, 10 billion? Because I looked at what Snap cost the other day.

It's a hundred billion a year. And it's also the numbers are fuzzy there, Woody, because what they do is illegal parents will come over they will have an anchor baby and then because of the anchor baby we now have to take care of those two illegal parents who should have never been here in the first place and we're on the hook for all of their medical procedures and so it's not it's not an ideal situation i agree with both of you that you can't have a country where you just like see someone broken and dying and are like huh no like that's okay it is 0.4% 0.4% is what google tells me goes to illegal what does that come to I didn't I asked I asked in percentages I asked so if 0.4% of it is about illegal immigrants

like stop this isn't about illegal immigrants in the first place yeah the snap thing is crazy too like like there can snap costs the US $100 billion a year I was like man we could just get that 20 billion we mailed off to Argentina back it will can fund through the rest of this year you know what I mean like no Kyle you don't get it we have to fucking give Argentina a bunch of money because it's important for some reason, Kyle, I agree. And then I'll be America first. So if not everyone knows this, they have six billion set aside in case of a government shutdown. And the Trump administration is fighting tooth and nail to not use that.

They are intentionally starving people in an effort to pressure the Democrats to vote for something they don't want to. I see it like, isn't it? Both sides where like seven Democrats, because they have a bill in place that they've shot down the democrats have shot down 14 times maybe it's 15 now to reopen the government with just a continuation of existing spending not with any changes and they've shot that down every time and that would fund snap and they've chosen not to fund snap because they won't let seven democrats cross the aisle because they want all these addendums when they set aside six billion in advance

in case something like this happens and trump says no let him starve he doesn't let Argentina starve, but he lets Americans starve. No, you could just as easily say those seven Democrats are letting them starve. Cross the aisle. The seven Democrats are fighting for health care, right? They're like, give up your fight on health care or I'm going to starve people. They're not fighting for meaningful health care. We're not going to get it.

No one helps me. It's not about me. I vote for things that are not in my own. We are all three of us net taxpayers. We are the ones bending over a barrel and getting fucked and getting nothing out of it. But I still look at right versus wrong. through a lens other than what's in it for me. It is wrong for me to break

into a country and stick my hands out. Okay, but there are no legal immigrants on SNAP and 0.4% of Medicaid apparently goes towards illegal immigrants. So 99.6% of it goes towards citizens and those are the people they're fucking over on purpose. So we can have tax cuts for Elon Musk.

I don't want tax cuts. You're letting profession be the enemy of good here. Well, the Democrats are indeed. letting perfection be the enemy of the good. Who's in charge, though? Who's in charge? Who's in charge? You're right.

Stop's there. You know it does. Wait, hold on. Who is in charge? They're going to get slaughtered in the midterms. Oh, they're going to get, here's what's going to have them. They're going to deserve every iota of it because they are starving Americans. They are doing.

Spitefully and cruelly. And they are going to get so beat up in the midterms that the majority is going to swing. And they are going to impeach Trump this time. And he is literally guilty of crimes that the most staunch Maga man would have to admit, Well, that's technically a crime. I agree. But he is the God Emperor Trump. So he could rewrite the laws as he will.

So they may just fucking send. This may be it. He may not get four years. Like they made impeachment proceedings began before, but he was not removed from office. And I think that could happen. I think the reason, and I think it's pretty obvious why Republicans are getting blown out and their approval ratings are low and they suck. And I hate them is because they have abandoned. Every promise, every guarantee, everything they ran on is dust in the wind.

It's nothing. Mass deportations, not happening. Not happening. You know what they do? They don't even post the official deportation numbers. What they did was they hired a think tank to make a survey report where they then got back. We estimate two million people have self deported. And it's like, really, oh, you went to a think tank for that?

Why would they have to estimate that? They get a check for self-reporting. They are lying is what they're doing. They're trying to goad their base on into thinking this is moving in a big way, but it's really not. If you self-report and allow yourself to be deported, they write you a check. I don't know what the dollar amount was, but it was a thousand plus, maybe 10,000. If the number were 2 million, they would show the hard data they have, but they don't have hard data. And so they're lying to people doing what, like anytime you see a study that's from the Democrats, Republicans, whatever. whatever. What they do is they hire a data firm or a think tank and they say, hey, we want you to run a study on the number of people deported so far or self deported. And by the way, tacitly, if you don't give us the data we want, we will not use your think tank, your data firm ever again. So have fun finding the data. And then they find whatever. It's the same thing where people will be like, actually the Trans Institute of America did a study that shows that it's good to cut kids balls off. And it's like, okay. Stop because you're. you're biased and you're your your it's moneyed interest but the republicans are going to continue to get butt fucked and they deserve every iota of it no mass deportations no secure elections requiring voter ID no reduction in foreign wars funding and you know what they they've spent

all their time doing is sucking israel's dick blowing bb and believe it or not the economy is as bad as it's ever been and that makes it really easy for people to go this is fucking ridiculous. Like, why would we do this? Like, it's... Did you see Trump's tweet about Walmart? I did. Trump tweeted, I want to read it verbatim. It might as well. Walmart just announced that prices for Thanksgiving dinner is now down 25% since under sleepy, crooked Joe Biden in 2024. Affordability is a Republican stronghold. Totally. The Republicans will use this an irrefutable fact. The fact is that, and if you, if I've got it linked there, you can look at what the 2024 meal was. and what the 2025 meal was.

I believe there are 21 items in the 2024 meal, all name brand. Now it's 15 items, all great value brand. It's such a bald-faced lie that it's, like, how can you have any faith in anything he says when you see he'll, like, pump that light? You can't. Like, he's pissing in your face and telling you to drink up because it's lemonade. Yeah, that's why I'm glad you're losing. Did you see that 60 Minutes interview where that bitch at said, well, Mr. President, Grocer's

more expensive. No, you're wrong. And she backed down like a coward because he sued them last time they gave him a hard time and he won. Like she backed down like a coward. She should have, no, sir. Here's an apple last year. Here's an apple this year. Get a fucking list a mile long.

Nothing is cheaper this year. Nothing in the world. And certainly that you can eat in this country is cheaper than it was last year. And it was bad last year. And it was bad the year before. And it was bad the year before. Every year it's more expensive. Yeah.

And it's a fucking joke that they're not addressing it and doing this. It's not even inflation. And the way they've handled beef is back up again. The way they've handled beef alone is embarrassing. There's no reason a steak should cost fucking $40. Like to buy the meat. Is that what a steak caught? Like I have a question.

I don't eat steak very much anymore. It's too expensive. So let me ask those of you who do. So I don't know steak prices. That's all true. But I see on Reddit pieces of steak for like $115. And I'm like, oh, this is probably cherry picked, right? Oh, that's Canada.

Dude, Canada's so much worse than we are with the prices. Not to minimize what we're doing. I guess my question is like a steak that you would actually buy and eat. What kind of stuff? Ribby, sirloin, filet mignon, T-bone. What grade of meat are we talking about just black Angus, which doesn't mean anything? It's just a brand. Or are we talking about A5 Wagyu?

Are we talking about... Let's do this. Six ounce filet mignon. Six or eight ounce flay mignon is something that I would actually... $32 a pound minimum. That's the most expensive of the stakes. I know. It's $32 a pound.

And it's like a little more than double than I used to pay. Yeah. I actually got, I mean, I know it's against exactly what we're saying. But I got two filet mignon's last week. It was like a pound, 1.8 pounds for $20. I was so pumped. I was the best. I was like,

and they were huge. Each of almost a pound filet. It was great. That dude was just selling it. Like his car, you know, the trunk wasn't ventilator air condition, but.

It was a cattle rustler. Yeah. And people say he stole it from the store that he was parked in front of, but I don't know. You know what else is more expensive than ever? And I know my man Kyle knows. Dude, soda is outrageous.

I love my Sprite zeros. I drink a lot of Sprite Zero and it's like when I go to the nice grocery store near me, it's like $8 per 12 pack. And if I go to Walmart, it's like $5.99 or sometimes it was marked down to like $4.99 on occasion. But it's like easily double the cost that soda was pre-COVID. I don't know about that. Dude, it used to be like $2.88 for a 12 pack. Like soda used to be borderline free. So when I was a kid, I remember they sold the cubes, which is the 24 pack for $5.50 at the racetrack gas station. They were so cheap and worthless that they left the cubes of Pepsi's outside overnight. They were just sitting there with the window washer fluid. And we would always like, oh, let's grab a cube. And we keep in the fridge at the shop. I think now I pay $13 for a cube when they're on sale. So that's, I definitely bargain shop when I buy my soda. It's 24 pack.

And they take, it's cube. Insider lingoes, I guess. Because I haven't, I have never heard a cube of soda. It is a cube of soda. It's not even a cube. It's a four by three. That's a rectangle, but. It is a cube.

You've never seen it. Clearly, you don't know what a cube of soda is like. What is the dimensions of it? How many sodas by how many sodas? Well, four by three, in your case, Taylor, assumes that the width and height are the same of the individual objects in there, but they're not. I've bought these before, and it's not a cube. It's a rectangular box.

I get them. Google real quick. Cube of sodas. We'll see. There you go. I'm going to do that. There you go. There you go. That's a cube of soda. The king of rectangle versus square wins again. The favorite place. Show me anything. I'll say square of rectangle. If you Google cube of soda that comes up, but also I can see that it's not actually a perfect cube. It is not a perfect cube, but it is referred to as a cube. Yeah, okay. Well, you're, you're Mr. Inside Baseball when it comes to stuff. Yeah, you should know that. It's an industry standard, okay? They don't have Sprite zeros in the cubes. Well, then you're paying out the nose then.

I mostly get Pets to Zero and Dr. The tariffs, I'm against tariffs because I think they make your industry weak. I think that your companies will grow weak and be uncompetitive and eventually it'll be just like the Soviet Union when the wall dropped. I've said it so many times. But if you were to implement tariffs and try to get something from them, like America, being re-industrialized, you can't change them every four weeks. Yes.

Who is going to do any American investment based on Trump's whims that there are tariffs in November that we don't know if they'll, would you be shocked if he dropped tariffs for Christmas shopping and brought them back in January? I wouldn't be. That sounds Trump shit. That sounds like Trump shit to me. Like, yeah, you would just lowered prices for Christmas, your favorite president, Donald Trump, see again in January 1st.

He didn't do it. he would do that fucking shit yeah and it's not how you build a sustainable investment model for a nation like he's got to stop doing this horse I couldn't agree more like the whole like we're China's raising their taxes or their tariffs to 500% and so we're going to go 4,000%

4,000% tariffs people and it's like this is not how you like pick a point that makes financial sense and use that use that as a barometer, use that as the anchor point so people can have a bit of stability and know, to your point, how do we invest? What numbers do we have to move around? How do we do that? Because I'm not against tariffs. Like every other country on earth tariffs us and harms our ability to industrialize our ability to manufacture. Then yeah, I can see if at the very least reciprocal tariffs make sense, maybe a little more than that because they should have to pay a bit to access the world's largest market by far. But the whole like it's 100, Actually, it's 80%. Actually, it's 12%. Maybe in the next few weeks, I'll mess around with it again. And he'll just say things thoughtlessly like that. And it's like, do you not realize how much that impacts the ability of foreign nations to invest in us if they don't have kind of a static understanding of where it will be? Right. Imagine all those bros on the shark tank thinking about where they're going to build something. Counting on tariffs to protect their company. I wouldn't count on it. He's been a complete and utter failure so far. He's done nothing that he said he would do.

And he has blown Israel and BB. And I don't know if you guys have seen. There is a huge civil war on the right right now between the... Goipers. The Ben Shapiro's, the Ted Cruz's, the Mark Levins, basically the Israel first crowd versus the America first crowd. And I'm obviously an America first person. And they are trying to, the Israel, like, prioritizing people like Ted Cruz and Ben Shapiro and whatnot are trying to be like, the Republicans are losing because of anti-Semitism? And it's like, are you sure it's not because they've been doing nothing but prioritize Israel while ignoring how bad the economy is, the horrible migration crisis, the fact that voting is still like every blue state, the way you vote is you just walk in and vote.

Like, you don't have to show anything. Like there's no security there. They haven't done anything at all. And they're like, they're losing because of anti-Semitism. It's like, no, I actually don't think that's a salient analysis of why they're failing. They're failing because they promised America first and a bunch of working in middle class people said that sounds good. And then he gets in office and goes, hey, guys, all you Americans who voted for me take a back seat because BB needs me right now because he's feeling dry. He's a grifter and a buffoon and probably a pedophile.

It's just the worst. he's a mean spiteful person and he's only out for himself and his occasionally funny he's occasionally very funny and and honestly like having a buffoon in it's the juxtaposition of of a ugly slovenly stupid buffoon in the highest seat in the land is the is the definition of comedy or maybe tragedy you know like like shakespeare would love this you know it's it's it's really interesting what's happening it's the problem is that we're all suffering because of it and i think we'll continue to suffer for for for maybe a decade or two what'll make it better Kyle will make it better a democrat will win next time they'll amnesty

all the illegals and then we'll be blue forever and the world will be better again i don't care i don't care what are they going to do when they turn blue like make give everybody health care and and and like be gay i can i could deal with that Like, what's going to happen? What's going to happen if we actually give her by health care and we and we and we don't like drag children into the streets and handcuff? I don't even go on. You're even thinking about Israel. You're not wrong.

First of all, you're not even considering Israel. I am, I am looking for the anti-Israel party these days. Unfortunately, it's Al-Qaeda. There is no. And they're not accepting new members. I tried. I remember when we were shocked at that New York mayor debate and everyone was like the first thing I'm going to do is go to Israel except one guy. Yeah.

Mom, Donnie. That one guy won. And you know, that's a big reason why he won is all these right wing retards are playing to their donors and not to the voters, not their constituents. How else could a question arise in a New York mayor debate? A mayor has nothing to do with foreign policy. And what are you going to do first? And the first guy is like, I'm a retarded drone who takes money from Israel. So I'm going to go to Israel.

And Mamdani or whatever gave the correct answer, which was, I'm going to stay in New York because I'm the mayor of New York. I'm not a foreign diplomat. And let me say this. Like, I know the reason that question was asked is because 12% of New York's population of whatever. 25% Google that. I know it's because 12% of their like 10 or 15 million people population is Jewish. but like, what percentage is black? Nobody asked him if he was going to Africa.

Where are we fucking talk? Or Mississippi or wherever black people are actually from. Like, that to me was the most. Well, you know, where they're from lately. We're all from Africa, Taylor. You, me, Woody, Samuel L. Jackson, we all started there. It's just how long ago were the people that you consider your ancestors there? In any case, that question alone, like, they should have had the fucking election that day.

Like, that was, if I'm a New Yorker, I'm voting for the guy who's looking out for New York, not the guy who's mentioning another country, not another state, not another city. Like, if he said, I'm going home to California to, like, tell the people that their baby boy from Sacramento made it big in New York. I'd be like, all right, that's cool. That's his hometown. No, he's talking about going to fucking Israel. Mom Dami's like, what connection do I have the fucking Israel? What are you talking about?

I'm going to serve the people of New York, the best I can. he's a social uh or a socialist democrat or democratic socialist yeah he wants to make the buses free and everyone hates that i'm like what's so bad about free buss that new york has the worst traffic in america i looked into it new york and chicago share that distinction for worst traffic in america los angeles you fucking cry babies bitch more than it you lead the league in complaining but you're third they do bitch yeah new york has the worst traffic And where are we here? Well, you got the Republicans saying they're going to defund the tunnel from New York to New Jersey.

By the way, Democrats fucking kicked ass to New Jersey, too. And I think that plays a big part with it. Stop fucking with their traffic. And Mondami, what if buses are free? What's so horrible? Taylor, if you lived in New York, would you start taking joy rides on buses all the time for no reason? Are you afraid people are down? I probably wouldn't, but that's because public transit.

transit in every American major city kind of sucks. Yes. Because there's a bunch of... What is a feature not a flaw? What if more people take public transit? What if traffic gets better? What if people are more easily able to get to... New Yorkers don't use the...

They can't handle any more cars. They're at max capacity. I think free public transit is a great idea. I want to try it. How expensive can it be? I don't even know how much it takes how much of costs to take a bus. to take a bus in New York but I imagine the price is like

not a huge stumbling block being able to fund buses rolling around does fill the buses up fewer cars more buses let's try it New York is the place to try it number one place I saw him say like the free public transit thing and I was like yeah it's like whatever like give it a go

right the thing the like the little interview I saw with him they're the ones I saw I didn't was that he has a tremendous amount of animosity towards white people and I'm white and so I don't like that. And then also the like freeing a lot of people from Rikers wanting to close Rikers down and put criminals on the street, which is just baseline equity policy, which is mostly pushed by Democrats. But like, I don't like that. I don't like the seemingly large amount of animosity towards white people and the freeing criminals in the name of equity.

but giving free public transit seems like a pretty good idea if but the only danger there is like you are going to invite more ruffians onto public transit I think that you're just going to make it easier for people to get around the city and do business and spend money

mostly yeah and that's why the GDP of New York Metro is it's bigger than Canada probably a lot I mean that's where the stock market is so it has to be enormous it's one it's like 1.3 trillion it's one point trillion with a T like it's bigger than Canada if you include the metro area and this guy's in charge of it now so no it has to be higher than that

it's the whole stock market and they get credit for that don't they all those companies based there they get the same way like they'll be like San Francisco has more GDP per capita but it's like six companies I just I just I believe you I believe I started here tonight I thought it's almost low yeah I think it's a north it's bigger than Canada like just New York City not even state Canada has a Stanley Cup in 30 years I almost want a series It is a little sketchy To have him running his Democratic Socialism experiment

In the biggest city in the country And one of the biggest cities in the world Tens of over 10 million people Like I said 1.3 trillion dollar GDP If you affect consumer spending by even a percentage Hundreds of millions of dollars Don't come in or don't go out However you want to look at it

So that could be scary I'm ready to give somebody else a fucking swing at it You know what I mean? Like I don't know if you ever tried to break a tire off a wheel and it won't come and like there's three old three or four good old boy standing there and like another guy shows up and like let me try it's like everybody steps out of the way no one says nah you can't do it even because they've all tried let let him have a hand at this i don't like his i want to do that i'm going to drive my car over the side of the tire

i don't i don't like his uh i don't like his over-the-top fake politics smile have you seen that you taylor is like i don't don't like AOC's eyes. I don't like this guy's smile. I don't like this guy's shiftyness. I don't like this guy's hair light. What I was talking about? Which guy's shiftyness? I made that one up. Oh.

Adam Schiff. That did. Respect. Just fly by night. Some of them are not. It's up to the viewer. It's called carpet bombing and it's a rhetorical tactic. Zach, show me a picture of a mom mom Donnie's wife.

because I think she's got an interesting look I can't decide if she's attractive or not I think she is really I can't tell if you're joking is it like a Hillary Duff thing or something no no no she's got a unique look she got a big nose but but she's pretty I think isn't Hillary Duff the one people do hot or not on that make that up I have no idea there's like an office episode Hillary Duff is clearly like oh no that's Hillary Swank in the office that's my mistake okay that's not the best photo of her but but I um I saw on stage last night or the

night before more photos please yeah so maybe show the on the left she looks cute and a lot of fun on the right it's i i'm so bad with faces are these four different people no it's all the same person and they look the same in every photo too uh i think she's hot i like the big nose too i don't care it's unique i don't like whenever i see him eating with his hands though i know that's one of those things the republicans pick at and the Democrats are like, you eat hot wings and ribs. It's like, yeah, but he's grabbing handfuls of rice out of that big bowl.

That seems odd. I've come up with a conclusion. By the way, Zach, great job with all those pictures. Yep, yep. I like her. The first picture, I was like, I don't know. But is she conventionally, like, super attractive? No, this isn't usually what people, like, go for.

But she looks like fun. I could see she be, she looks cool in these pictures. I like, I think she's hot. I'm into it. If the personality that I think is coming through is accurate, I like her. Look at that smile. Oh, I bet he's happy. Oh, I bet he's thinking about making other people happy.

That picture on the right. Like, find you a woman who looks at you like she looks at Mondami, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Although they're clearly posing for a professional photographer, but. Oh, they probably don't know there's any cameras right now. Yeah, there's a sea of cameras going br-r- right. No, like, like, how could he know? not win. Did you, I saw that, uh, I saw the, um, the votes came in, like the most Jewish

neighborhood in New York. And Eric Adams got eight votes. Mamdan, mom, donnie got zero. Eric Adams, I think is on the way to jail right now. Like, like, they caught him with so much stuff. Cuomo. Oh, he was the biggest guy. Yeah. Cuomo was a fucking sex pest. And he, he sent all those old people to go die in that, that, that, uh, like, like, whatever during COVID. Um, that, that was his competence. like it's almost and a Republican sometimes Republicans win in New York I mean Giuliani was and there's more recent one too that's true about Giuliani but but I think it was his anti-crime thing and the way it had taken down the mob as DA or

whatever he was that that was and and he wasn't that he wasn't about to like start changing big things in New York if I remember correctly I was a kid any Republican running right now is dealing with a big headwind because Trump is unpopular. Oh, for sure. People are saying like, oh, the Democrats are recordly unpopular too. Okay, that's true.

I'll take that. The thing is a lot of the people who are mad at Democrats are Democrats. They want new Democrats. They want to get rid of Schumer. They want to get rid of Hakeem Jeffries. Pelosi's not running again. Yeah, Pelosi stopped running or isn't running again.

You said it better. But it's not like Democrats are saying they prefer Trump. they're just mad at their party for losing and not delivering like they want them to. Yeah, they don't put clearly like the old school and the new school of their party are at odds with one another. The younger people are much more diverse and they're much more about wanting the party to be about workers. And the old guard is much less diverse and much more about sucking Israel's dick and a lot of like waste and fill in their own pockets seemingly. Taylor mentioned accurately the Republican Civil War.

There's a Democratic one too. Those guys are like partly it's over Israel, just like the Republicans. But it's also over like, you know, 80 year olds just not actually getting shit done, going to work and not doing it. They want people who will enact more progress. Do you see Mitch McConnell being carried out like a log again? No. It's unreal, dude. This is fucking insane.

That wasn't Mitch Nick a lap in the office. no that was a um no wait in trump's office you're talking about oh no that was a that was a an executive from ozempic who collapsed while they were announcing that trump did something to make it so probably the best thing trump's ever done in woody's eyes is he's reducing the cost of ozempic to $50 a month because and you know what's also funny i saw someone make a joke

online where they were like you know what's crazy trump spent like three months four months with Elon Musk and then came in front of the America and said, we have got to solve this autism thing. Just imagine. Can you imagine how much like Trump is like he's good in social situations. He's good at like getting people to be endeared to him like whatever you like him or just like he's amazing. He's very good at that. Yeah. People say he's like very personable. He probably does those tricks where you use their name a lot and ask personal questions and what. that whole like gay ass like how to win friends and influence people shit where you know you're that's heard use their name over and over i'm sure clinton is the bad not Hillary don't get it twisted i'm talking about bill Hillary's has got to be the worst at it because i didn't mean to derail but uh yeah the ozempic thing is solid make it cheaper but why is it have to end there Why does it have to end there?

Why can't we make drugs that we pay out the nose for the same price that people in Germany can get? I think you should be able to get drugs from other countries. If it's complicated to set the pricing in America, if there's some weird thing about every insurance company negotiating their own prices, I don't know why it's so complicated. But it seems like if all of a sudden you can put up a website in Canada and get it there instead, problem solved. instantly everyone else will have to price match or you'll just skip them it seems like we do all we in America both do and like people who pay taxes on the net basis we fund all the R&D and then people in Spain are just like oh I'd love to get this and it's like great seven dollars America already did all the R&D and now we have it private labeled here under some fucking Spanish name I I will never be convinced it's anything other than effective lobbying to fuck over Americans. Oh, yeah. Like you said,

Trump did a good thing with OZempic. Why stop there? Why is it like, you know, Biden did a good thing with insulin. Why did you stop there? Like, like,

why are we just picking off one or two high profile things? And then everyone with Wiki wheels. So we're still, we're still in this anachronistic political, I guess,

paradigm where all these boomers who are in office are terrified of Fox, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS. Like, they're scared of those networks. And that's not going to pass until that generation ages out. And they realize they should be afraid of people online. But they're still afraid of those networks. And those networks, I've said it before, will never, ever, ever cross Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson,

Glaxo Smith-Kline, the giants in the pharmaceutical industry, because that's who pays their bills. I had to look up anachronistic. I can't be alone. It belongs to an earlier timeline. They're out of date. They're doing something that would have been appropriate 10, 15 years ago. You're welcome, viewer. I'm here for you. I wasn't trying to be a douche. I just, that was the best word to describe it. It was perfect. I was like, wow, that is the appropriate word for the situation. Appreciate it. But yeah, it's just, it's really gay. The pharma companies have, just it's really gay why don't we don't like it that means he doesn't care for it because these pharma companies have way too much

power why don't we nationalize them why don't we steal their company from them say fuck you your company belongs to america now i'll tell you why i don't like it i i think that when the government starts owning a piece of the company or when the government plays a big role in that

company's success then that company starts catering to the government more than its customers and eventually it becomes weak and fat and bad. If the most important thing in my car company is to keep Trump happy then the most important thing is not

quality or price or competitiveness or staying current. It's keeping Trump happy. So if the government starts owning these things then the customer isn't first. That's my take on it. It's funny. I'm like... The customers already not first though. I'm like less

free market than you almost. No, some stuff has to be controlled like any we need to be a little um stuff does like in medicine maybe is a case for that because i think so i would argue energy energy already is controlled right it's so heavily regulated what they charge what they do etc which is important because you don't have a choice so like if i own your energy company you're going from 13 cents a kilowatt to 30 not whatever i think i can milk out of you you're still going to use energy you have no choice you'll fucking die without my electricity so I can rake you over the coals.

I wouldn't actually do this, I hope. But that's what an energy company could do. How is that different than medicine? It's not. Right? Like I've said this for ages, right? I'll say it again real quick. Siphilis.

Siphilis will kill you in a slow, drawn out, terrible death. And it's cured by 50 cents worth of penicillin. But I can charge you $100,000. You'll mortgage your house. You'll work for the rest of your life for 50 cents, worth of penicillin to prevent your death. It's what people do. So that's why you need some government controls on absolute necessities like that, that have

monopolies. Yeah, healthcare should be nationalized. 100%. It's just we don't have, neither of our main parties seem to have a real interest in doing it in a good way. I think you need to lower the amount of time it takes before a trademark or a copyright or whatever for a formula is available to everyone. and, like, cut that in half, whatever that is.

And also make sure that they don't do that bullshit where they're like, oh, no, well, it's aspirin with lemon now. So that's a completely different formula. So reset the clock. Oh, go ahead. They do that, yeah. Hang them in the street when they do that. And then, like, along with the market allowing other people to manufacture,

let's just insulin at a lower rate who did have to develop it so they'll be able to, like, cut costs. Also, let there be a government version. Let there be a government version. handles all alcohol sales in a lot of states like let them handle the some of the drug sales to let them compete in the market i don't remember what that's called that you're it proprietary extension or it's some sort of practice where they do exactly what you said where it's about to be done it's about to like be publicly available and then they go back

reformat the formula add some nonsense and then say restart the clock the same way like uh like when you see an Indian guy running a gas station or something. The reason he owns that gas station is because as an immigrant, as an H-1B, he has access to loans that the three of us do not have access to, interest-free five-year loans for small businesses. We don't get that from the government. They do. We fund it. We fund it, guys, but we don't get access to it. And he comes over, he gets that. And then at four years and nine months, he abandons the company, transfers it to a family member who just came over via chain migration, that one takes it over, restart the five-year clock. And so there's all of these manipulations happening, healthcare, you know, small business,

H-1B, what have you, that all of us as net taxpayers fund and we don't even have access to, we get abused by it. Healthcare might be the biggest example. We get butt-fucked on that. If I have some, if God forbid, if a couple of years from now, it turns out I have some genetic disorder that I'm unaware of that costs a zillion dollars to pay for every year, I will lose my house, I will be destitute, I won't be able to have the life that I'm hoping I can have. If some fucking guy who showed up two minutes ago has that, he's okay. That's fine. I pay for that and I pay for the perspective circumstance in which I am afflicted by that. And I, I hate that more than anything. Like, if I'm paying for all this shit, I should get access to this like

Medicare for all. You know what percentage of this is a different topic? I'll let you go ahead. Oh, now what I was going to say doesn't fit. I was like, I think we should give Taylor the last word, do ads and get ready for the guest. And I cut off Kyle's thought, which probably people were here. I was going to say that Patels, just the Patels own half the motels in America. That's crazy.

The Patel family owns half the motels in America. Because they come in, they buy a motel. Their family does all the work. so they don't have to hire anybody, so it's free labor, and they undercut every motel in town. And as soon as they can, they have nephew go and run a new motel and rinse and repeat infinitely until half the motels in the United States are owned by one family. Then they post job listings, they don't hire people, and then they say, we can't fill this. We need to pull someone else from India.

Oh, my goodness, it's my cousin. How fanciful. Like, that's how they do. Like, the American dream doesn't work if it's not just for Americans, by the way. Like, it doesn't work if you force your entire population to compete with the globe for health care housing, financial security, the rest. Like, no, it should be for us. Get rid of these, get rid of the takers who are coming here. I think it can.

I think I think I heard Reagan the other day. Let's expand the borders. Let's make the whole globe America. Would that be better? GDP would skyrocket. I think that if we weren't sending all this money to Israel, if our budget wasn't so blubes, if our budget wasn't so. loaded with the hundreds of billions and trillions of dollars that we've wasted, then like bringing a few Mexicans in and giving them health care will be a drop in the bucket. You wouldn't notice. You'd be

happy to be like, yeah, come on Mexicans. Get over and get healthy and maybe become an American too. But we just, we blew a trillion in the Middle East when I was a kid. And then we blew another trillion up. I don't even know where since then. It's the, the deficit is so shockingly enormous. It's unfathomable. It's trillions of dollars. And we're never going back. the other way. I don't know what the future is. It's so depressing. It's pretty scary. And also like, and this is just like a baseline thing about like styles of government. Democracies are notoriously bad. Of all the types of government, there is no worse form of government for long-term planning than large democracies with universal suffrage because all that you get then is a bunch of short-term

promises short term everyone's playing short term everyone's playing short term no one's planning you know you know why china is catching up it's because they have long term planning they have someone that people are losing faith in democracy because of china's success and but i'm not i mean i could look at russia's communist russia and say communism doesn't work eventually when you have a few people in charge getting all the control and power, they stop operating for the country and start enriching themselves. That's what happened in Russia. Autocracies are worse than democracies. Dictatorships are worse than democracy isn't the worst. It might very well be the best. I can admit China looks good right now, but let's keep watching. You know, I haven't seen a long-term successful communist

country. We're losing as of now as far as like the ability to map out future plans and then follow up because again when you're in a democracy with universal and people wonder like why are our politicians so retarded it's like because that's who they're playing to when every moron can vote that's who that's it we got it all right do the ads to not today about my catfish theory i'm excited about your catfish theory this episode is brought to you by blue chew blue chew folks let's talk about sex guys shouldn't you always be at your best 2025 is the to maximize your performance in the bedroom. Listen up, bluechew.com.

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They didn't offer them the same deal. They do every other company that has ever gone to China to make their cars. They said that you can keep complete control of everything. Just make your cars here and sell them. That's all we want from you. That's not communism. That's not even socialism. That's capitalism.

And what happened was the catfish theory. When they grow sardines for food, they're very sedentary fish. They don't taste good. And you end up with a bunch of weak ones. But if you put a catfish in the tank, they constantly move around. The weak ones better themselves to avoid the catfish. Every sardine in that tank is a better, stronger, faster, and apparently better tasting sardine because of the competition.

Because of the fear. The same way that all of those Chinese EV companies have exploded in the last few years because they have Tesla competition. So that's why China's beating us and will continue to be. beat us because they're not that's why a communism that's why I wear a scream mask when I go hunting so that they're scared and they taste a little better yeah yeah I know here makes them taste game they don't like it as yeah yeah you want to like kill them instantly yeah yeah I think I saw the same thing and it was interesting yeah China wanted Tesla in there so that their

companies had to compete and get strong it's the opposite of tariffs really it they're like come on in here do your best and we're going to have the leanest meanest most motherfucking electric cars you've ever seen and they kick Tesla's ass. Why were they able to do that though? It was because of central they were literally and I don't want to sound like some fucking commie or autocrat but the reason they were able to do that is because they didn't have those giant auto manufacturers lobbying against the inclusion of a foreign introduced product like that wouldn't be available in the US because they're all chasing short term gains whereas in China they're like no We got a fucking hundred year plan, motherfucker.

If they kept Tesla out and didn't have them to compete against, their electric cars might be as shitty as so many other Chinese products. Maybe, but they're also, they would have stolen it. Those are, they're thieves. Yeah, I would have. They would have stolen it. All those stories, it's so funny. Where it's like, uh,

where it's like Chinese, uh, Chinese foreign exchange student stealing passwords in the Navy. And they like show a picture of the guy. And he's like, oh, ha. And it's like, who let this guy in? This is like a caricature level of crazy. Oh, I'm here to help America. Zach said muting now.

Oh, he's bringing in a man. Cool, cool. Oh, there he is. The MMA guru. Thank you for joining us. What's up, guys? How's it going, PKO? This is YouTube culture right here, dude.

You've got to go on the PCA pod once in a while. I love it. You have to. You have to. I'm out of the loop on an MMA thing. Can you explain the betting scandal thing that they're talking about on Reddit? Who did

what? Are they guilty? What is the what are the odds that it's legit? Talk to me. It's whenever there's these small cards that nobody really cares about and there's not a major amount of attention on them.

This is what I think is the most likely thing. Basically people are hearing things backstage I reckon and hearing about an injury in training camp and that news is getting to amounts of sharp bettors that are putting crazy amounts of money once they hear the news so we had d'algarian versus delv out a fight that no one really would care about or pay attention to unless they were really in the know about the sport so it was something that could easily be forgotten 16 million was

bet on a pre-limb fight with two fighters i've never fucking heard of yeah he did not fight that joke well he fought the choke but almost poorly he fought it like i'd fight it almost almost performatively fought the choke right um but basically the odds he was like a minus 270 favorite and the odds went within the space of half an hour to about minus 140 150

and there was a bunch of new accounts that had made betting accounts for the first time just betting on dorgarian versus del vau on the prelims of an apex card and there was loads of massive amounts of money coming in on the fight. So what I reckon happened is someone leaked something out of the training camp. Maybe he was injured. That's the best case scenario that somebody overheard that he was injured and then told all

their group chat on telegram of these like sharp bettors. But what the scandal could be is that this is something that happens because this happened before. Did Dana call him ahead of the fight and ask him about the betting and such? I read it, but I read it on Reddit so I don't take all that. his fact necessarily. But here's what I read. I don't know if it's true.

Dana saw the betting patterns. And I guess some bookies like shut down betting on this particular fight because it was going wild. And he calls the fighter, the one that's favored and ended up losing. And he's like, hey man, what's going on?

These bets are wild. Are you okay? Do you owe somebody money? Like what is happening here? Are you injured? And the guy's like, I'm fine. I'm going to fucking kill this guy.

And then he goes out and loses. Is that true? Did he say that? That is, Dana did say that. So they called Dana, the people that monitor all of the betting patterns going into the fights, called Dana and said something's going on. And Dana's, essentially his response was, what? I fucking called the guy and he said, no, we're going to keep it going. As if the guy would say, yes, I'm up to something or anything like that.

So the fight probably should have been called off, but Dana has this sort of like ballheaded mentality with these types of things. So that could end up getting him in trouble, man. You never know. There should be an obligation to listen to that type of thing. The FBI is saying there's like a hundred fights that have irregularities. And Dana described an office. Maybe he was bloviating, but he said there was an, his office was full of FBI agents. They send one or two.

They send two when there's a little thing. If there's a team, then we're investigating. We're looking for evidence. Like this is, it's looking like it might be bigger than we think. And I saw on Ariel's show, he was saying like, a lot of fighters have told me. that they've been offered, like, dollar amounts of money, you know, tens of thousands of dollars. And when you think about how the UFC pays, especially these no-name pre-limb guys, $50,000 is more than you were going to make maybe in your career a fighting for the UFC.

That might be four, five fights wins for you, you know what I mean, after taxes, certainly. 10 in 10 is a new fight of deal, right? It's on your bribe money, you know what I mean? Yeah, 14 and 14 is like the low-level fighter deal. So you get and you make about 14 and 14. So if you go in and lose 14 to $14. show 14 more if you win okay thousand and if you lose twice you'll make yeah you're right you'll make less than 50k if you lose twice badly and get cut you you'll make less than 50k in your career so

and again like i said obviously that money's being taxed and you've got coaches in your pocket you've got trainers in your pocket and it's not like you got to if you're really serious about this you probably don't have a side hustle this is everything that for 50,000 dollars bride money is probably cash in a bag when you pay taxes on that that's 50,000 dollars I could easily be convinced to take a fall. Isn't bribery kind of a little bit part and parcel of the fighting world? Feels like it has been historically with boxing and you've got to take a fall on the fourth. Even NBA recently has had the similar thing, right?

NBA just got investigated for the same thing. They found a few situations. All it takes is for some guy at a bar to say, if you do knock him down, just go for the submission instead of a knockout, please. in some way you're in a way guilty even though you're not really because you're betting on yourself to win it's a little bit different but on the alternative side of that if you're a massive favorite and some guys just put a healthy summer money on the underdog that isn't supposed to win and you go out there and get choked out in the first go on that's the consequence of betting in sports and like we've all just sat back and been happy with it as it has exploded from bar stool to i don't know any number of apps i remember when the in an NFL game or a college football game when the score was closer maybe some aberration happens and now oh you missed the extra point

and the guy would go a lot of people going to be unhappy about that one Mark yeah yeah like wink wink nod nod they wouldn't even mention gambling betting bookies none of that those words were taboo now it's like we get a pregame

show with betting odds and like fantasy football tips so that you can make some money while you watch the Raiders play it's it can't be good like I don't necessarily think gambling's immoral. I don't know. I've seen the ads and it seems like it's like you own the they say you now you wear the crown. You know like you're a draft. So now you are the draft king.

You are the draft king. And you they wouldn't be doing this if they weren't helping people. Well shit. I stand corrected. I'm one sure the one sure the king of the draft the ball's in your court pretty much. You you really know what you're getting into. But that's the thing. There was another a couple of cards ago with this fight, Derek Minner versus Shalia and Nodi and Becker. It's always these obscure names. It's never like an Alex Pereira or the, Connor McGregor, this, but in hindsight,

you know, that McGregor-Aldo fight was almost too perfect. The jail son and fedore fight. Don't say that. I mean, when he chucked himself off the back, don't bring jail into this. I mean, come on. But like, even McGregor-Aldo, when he was practicing it backstage,

was that a rehearsal in hindsight? Like, okay, Aldo's going to do this. And then my jokes to do this. Mac at work. How dare you? But this is the thing, right? It ruins. It ruins.

The most honorable man in sports and you're accusing him of cheating. He would never do that. He would never cheat. I think so far we've mostly seen it be these little guys who are tied up in it because they are, like we said, so underpaid and the money's there. Yeah. I would, I don't know anything about Connor McGregor, other than he seems to be a scumbag. And I used to like to watch him fight when he did.

But I don't think. you bribe him to do anything. I don't think you can. Like, not in his very expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

it'd be very expensive. You'd see betting aberrations. They would need to bet so much that it would, the betting would look weird. And then like, if you look at his, if you look at his losses,

like what do they do, pay him to break his fucking leg. Right, right? And wasn't you pay him to win? You don't have to pay him to win against Aldo. Like, yeah. And it's too obvious.

If you pay Aldo to lose, though, you could pay Aldo to lose. Yeah, that's what you do. Yeah. I mean, but I think you couldn't pay him to lose, though.

And on top of that, after that humiliation world tour that McGregor took him through, he farted on him. You ever see him fart on him? He farted on Aldo. He stole his belt. Aldo was the champ,

long running champ, Taylor, for like five, six years. How did he fart? What was the opportunity? He didn't farted on him. Farmed on a picture. Picture a bunch of folding poker tables where they set up a press conference

to sort of hype the fight. And the champion almost always has his belt sitting in front of him. It gives him a prestige and an aura. And McGregor took that fake belt, which is real belt, and claimed it is his now. He's like, what are you going to do? And I guess that's when Connor farted on him? No, Connor farted on him backstage. It was a drive by Aldo was just kind of sitting there.

Oh, if that's bad, then nail me to the cross. I can't walk past a group of people. and crop dust them, hoping that one of them gets blamed. I'm getting kicked out of middle school, that's for sure. Is this even America? Yeah, that's crazy. We've never seen someone like break Geneva convention in the terms of their like warfare before a fight. It was wild.

That's like well-timed. That's well-timed. I'm holding that in the chamber. Like that's, that just beats T. Gregor's manifestation. That takes function. Time and beat speed. For me, that was him at the top of his game.

Like his mental warfare world. game because the way he bullied a guy who clearly walks through life being respected everywhere he goes and treated him with utter disrespect the way he mocked him to rioted him bullied him like a schoolyard bully grabbing it, playing keep away with the thing

that he cherishes most in life and he did it multiple times. He was always stealing that belt from Aldo. Aldo was doing a radio interview and like you go in the box and talk and then we'll switch McGregor go in the box and talk and like while he's in the box and talking McGregor's like got your fucking belt. Like he got

it away from somebody and he was always fuck so when that fight happened and he caoed him in fucking 26 seconds or whatever it was like that was the coolest thing i'd ever seen in my life i've never seen anything like that and then they of course like glaze him to no end showing him rehearsing that exact like like move in the back and and him predicting he's like he's gonna overcommit and i'm gonna sleep him with the left whatever he said and it's like shit he did it then they show it in slow motion and mystic mac is real that's how became a connor mcgregor fan And then, you know, he sexually assaulted all those people. So then I kind of fell out of it.

Allegedly. Oh, no, no, no, factually. Oh, really? He was found guilty. He was found guilty in court. Alleged by the court. I don't know. I don't know.

I just feel so uninformed in this conversation. I don't know anything. You can chime in on the other things. MMA's good at that, I feel like, because they have, the fighters have these crazy situations go down about them. that anyone can get involved, you know, it's always something weird, like the John Jones stuff or the what's so-and-so getting up to it. It's always nothing to do with the sport, really.

So that's how it can sort of drag in people. Go on. The, my first exposure to MMA was probably late 2008, 2008, 2009. I don't remember. But one of my buddies, this Marine guy, was like super into it and, like, loved it. And so we went to his house and watched one.

And I remember being like, I don't know anything about fighting. And what made me, interested was it was a Brock Lesnar fight. And I also don't follow professional wrestling. So I had no idea who this guy was. And they do the little march out of both guys, both fighters. And that almost immediately in the fight, Brock Lesnar got on top of this guy. And I remember the top down camera. And I was like, this man is so big. There's no evidence he's fighting anyone right now. There's no evidence. If this was a still shot, like a 9-11, still. And

still, you'd be like, there's no evidence anything's going on other than a guy bent over on it. And I was like, there are men this big beating each other half to death. This is pretty sick. And then I think it was either after that or maybe a little before, I saw Seth Petrazzelli beat up Kimbo Slice. Because I had seen Kimbo Slices videos on YouTube. And as a fight retard who didn't know anything, I was like, oh, this dude Kimbo Slice must be the toughest of the tough. like he's look how big he is look how hard he hits and then some dude who just knew what he was doing flattened him in five seconds after being called up apparently that guy thought he was

going to be sitting there in the fucking uh in a box eating chicken wings and then they're like no actually you're fighting in two minutes and then he nailed him knocked that guy the fuck he was sort of like really pressured to keep that fight standing as well you want to talk about that's illegal scandal yeah exactly he was like heavily pressured you do not take The guy to the ground, you keep this on the feet against Kimbo doesn't know how to fight on the ground, right? No, because Kimbo was like they wanted Kimbo. They wanted him to be a thing in the sport around that time to like, because he would carry a promotion. Yeah, exactly.

To the casual, it's like, oh, here's that character from Street Fighter. Here's this character from Street Fighter. They want those archetypes and he was perfect. He's the street fighting black tough guy who takes no shit and knocks motherfuckers out and walks through people. And then it didn't happen. And they quite don't way. Oh, G saw Kimbo's first loss. I bet MMA grew up.

I mean, Sean got into his own get waxed by that fat white guy. And I was like, this guy isn't that good? I'm pretty sure that guy was a Boston cop. And that he did train. He wasn't just like a random guy off the street. Yeah. But, you know, Kimbo's talking all this. And Sean's like, I could beat you.

And it was, I think they got exhausted. But Kimbo had to quit. There was no, there was no ref to call it. There was no, like, oh, he's had enough. Kimbo and it was all standing mostly and Kimbo eventually was just like please stop hitting me I think he kind of like worked his way back into that

because every the thing is that this police officer went into like Kimbo's area and was kind of giving him the work that any time he started to really get the better of him all of a sudden everyone's jumping in and whoa whoa let's separate this get it back to normal so but Kimbo was awesome back in the day like he was definitely one of those

characters like you know Mike Tyson punch out it feels like he should be like an optional DLC to the game like on like enough chance you can face Kimbo. He was a great personality. I love that Brendan Schwab story. He was funny. These guys down here talking about our people. What do you mean our people? Blacks.

We talk. I'm not black. What are you? That's the thing about Brennan. I don't know what he is or whatever he said. I just remember watching watching Kimbo slice videos in like 2006 on YouTube and it would and like there was no exposure for me to professional fighting and so to me it was like oh Kimbo I know him and he's fighting Larry the dock worker and it was just some other giant guy and then they'd fight and there's like pit bulls chained up barking in the background and sirens going and it was this is this is sick this is pretty cool. Asphed all came from that environment to whooping up on Ray, Ray. Like, that old school stuff was fun.

Dude, Guru, I want to hear your origin story. Why did you start making YouTube videos? Are you trying to be, are we trying to get here? Or were you just a passionate fan? How did you go full time? I was trying to make a living out of it. Right from the get-go, you were trying to become a popular. It's like, no, I don't know about popular, but like if I could find a niche to where I could make 4K a month, 3K a month.

I'd be like, holy shit, like, I'll be making a wage that people have worked for a lot and I'll actually be enjoying it. So this would be awesome. But then it just went crazy from there. But I always wanted to be a YouTuber. Like, I know about you guys, PCA. I know about the wings of redemption meltdown. You know, you just want syndicate. I don't know why I filmed a bit. I've been watching you for years. I watch your fight companion. I like your commentary during the fights. I love how passionate you are. I love how much you have. hate the people that I hate. All right. All right. I hate it really comes out when you're watching fights, but I'll hate just about anyone if it could be it. I hate that hair lip

motherfucker with a passion, dude. I know it's not a hair loop. I know he was walking four and he fell and hurt himself and his family couldn't fix it, but I hate him. I hate him. What do he do? What makes you dislike? We're talking about her. Very existence is enough. Chimaio. Yeah, Dagestani grapplers, dude. I fucking hate I hate it. I'm not with you. I like them. I like him. I like him. So I used to hate Kabib, I used to hate Kabib because I loved Connor. That was before all the stuff.

That was when he was Mystic Mac. I loved Mystic Mac. I love Mystic Mac. I love the bravado. And I loved that he knocked motherfuckers out. It was beautiful. And so I had to hate Kabib. Khabi spit on him.

Kibb's talking. She's like, talk now. I'm like, no, I'm crying. One of my favorite moments in the main history. But I've come full circle on Khabi. I can't not respect and like Kabeb because I've never seen him like step out of pocket. Everything he says seems to be honest, heartfelt. and well-meaning, but the rest of them, even Islam.

I can't get none of them. Really? Whenever the Russian government was grabbing their assets, I was loving it. Makashev's all right. This is the thing like a new one comes along and sets the bar lower on like the standard of their entertainment value. And then all of a sudden you're like, you know what? Macchever's a savage guys.

Macchave actually goes for finishes and he does. So I've come around to Macashev a lot. I think he's actually cooler than Habib in my opinion. I saw him with that garden killer. And that helped a little bit to see him, like, do some blue collar, shit. I like that they don't want their money. They're the anti-McGregor. Like, their money is getting invested in their community.

I remember the story that Khabib's dad told about Khabib, when he first won his little bit of money. And by a little bit, I mean, like $1,000 in Dagestan, which is a lot of money to them. And he asked his dad if he could spend the money. And he's like, yeah. And his dad's like, and then I watch him. I see what he do with the money. He goes and he buys everyone at the gym, gear. He buys them all shorts and gloves.

with his money, this is good. And it's like, it's like he's raised by like a kind Yoda. And that's kind of how I see him as like a warrior monk type character. Like that guy's not getting pussy. That guy's not doing cocaine. He's living a good life there. Yeah, the same pussy from like very young is actually what's probably the case there. But you couldn't tell from the, uh, what about the call?

I can't tell her age under her towel or something. Yeah. She wears a something. She's not in the public. guy, his wife. I almost don't like talking about it. She's his cousin. She's under a shower curtain all day. To me, like if somebody doesn't want to be a part of the show, I should allow that. That's my take on his wife. I agree. That's her choice. Yeah. You don't want to plot of this, then you don't want a part of it. That's just how I know. He's definitely being forced

into a corner and hit under a shower curtain, but that's neither here. That's their, I'm not going to judge that. You know, all cultures are equal. Remember that Taylor. All cultures are equally good. Taylor's not acting like women are equal. Not the bad cultures, though, right? There are no bad cultures, Taylor. It's been proven. What are they up to on Sentinel Island?

None of our business. Fair enough. You want the Sentinelese coming in your living room, checking on you? No, I don't think. So why do you think you exploded? Why are you doing so well? But what makes you different than like the other MMA commentators? I thought I just kept doing it.

I just feel like I don't. I don't know. I just do content. And if the content's there, I'll do it. I think at the time that I came along, it was kind of right for me to come along. The MMA media was kind of not, they were putting things out that they wanted the fans to be interested in.

They weren't understanding what the people were interested in and then doing that content. Whereas when I came along, I was sort of the fan that was like, fuck, no one's actually giving a prediction on a fight. That's how it was when I first started. That's a really good point.

This guy could win if he does this, but this guy could win if he does this. And then he would take this middle ground because they were all employed by the UFC or by ESPN or Fox or whatever was the broadcaster at the time. And then I come along and I say, this is my prediction. This guy's fucking shit. And he's going to get knocked out in round one. And it just sort of, that's what people were waiting to hear. Even on the fight companions, Joe Rogan did a fight companion.

I remember cleaning drains listening to a fight companion of Soroni versus Edwards. And Rogan's on there talking about the art of stand up comedy. in the middle of the main event or something I'm thinking fuck about the fire he's not even a good stand-up I know but dude you have that one special

but I don't know why I'm contrary and yeah I agree yeah yeah but yeah that's why I came along he's pleased many a stool he's a great interviewer give him his dude but stand up

I don't know about that yeah now that I think like you and Ariel are kind of the two guys who just made a job by keep doing it until it worked like i and nina drama oh how could we forget oh just just i don't think you don't know nina drama i have no idea i have no idea what you're pretend i'm the audience listening to this right now so i have no fucking clue there's this girl named nina who was a playboy

model and she has sort of injected herself or maybe she's been injected i'm not sure into the mama community and so she does these little uh interviews with fighters she works for the ufc seemingly or quasi works for the UFC. Although I think maybe that's coming to an end now. And I don't know, a bit of a controversial figure. I'm a fan of her because I like Cameltoe. And I get my MMA journalism elsewhere. I'm there for the toe.

Okay. She was controversial because her toe is too deep? No. It's just that she brought like a goon baiting style of like appeal to the UFC, which is a thing. Like everyone does that these days. But I just, she called me like the most reprehensible person ever, basically. Oh, then fuck that, bitch.

We have that. Who's the woman that interviewed McKenzie? No, who was the, who's the new champ? Why am I blanking her name? It's McKinsey Dern. They were both on the beat. Okay. It was in the embedded with her who was also in a thonged bikini.

Yes, who's her? She's really good. Yeah, she's great. What's her name? That's a talented woman. That's crazy because the embedded is meant to promote her. And she, like, on the first episode, it's like she's in the hot, All the other fighters are hitting pads and like going on jogs and I did have worked my whole life for this and they cut to Dern and she's in a hot tub.

Then episode two she's like getting her toes done. I'm not even making this up. That was her like segment. So they know what they're doing with Dern. I fucking fucking get her toes done. I don't understand the foot fetish thing, but I understand feeder like as popular as boobs somehow. That has to be the most enviable fetish out there. Imagine if you're at a beach.

And you're just cloud nine because you see a bunch of feet ever. Can you imagine how easy it would be to be horny if you were turned down in the sand? That sucks. Yeah, I wish I was into feet. Do the sugar cookie thing. Cover them with saying. I don't know what they like. I don't get it.

I don't know. These people are fucking weirdness. You mentioned, uh, you were cleaning drains when you were listening to a lot of these fight companion. Was that your job prior to doing this? That was my weekend job. I used to work a lot. As soon as I got out of school, I just used to work.

So I used to do a regular job. I would do like a changing of posters for like this supermarket more and hand out flyers in the street and stuff like that. It's basically just getting rejected for a living was like early doors, just looking for old women that I could sort of shift off three leaflets to before I sort of got back to like the next stack of things, changing posters. and then on the weekend I would basically there was this building yard parking space and they had to keep it clean for regulations and there was always weeds growing and

things falling down there rubble cigarettes everywhere and they got paid an amount by the council or something to keep it clean for safety and they just sort of gave me that money or like a percentage of it to do that on the Saturday so on the Saturdays that's what I would be doing and then I think the fights were in Singapore so they were actually in the daytime my time because this is all happening like the fight cards happen 11 a.m. till 7 a.m. my time in the UK. So we're years roughly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Around. What year is it roughly you're talking about? Oh, what year is it roughly? Probably about 2017, 16, probably around that time, I would guess. Yeah, I left school at 2016, I think. I left school at 17, 2015, yeah, probably around

that time. So I've been doing this since late 2018. That's when I actually started my channel and started doing the content. So how would you sell? Eye pokes. I just take a point of everyone who even goes for them and then they would stop doing it.

Or goggles. Yeah, all goggles that could also work. But imagine getting punched in the goggles. That would hurt so bad. That would hurt. I would have your eyeball out. Yep. We're just glass shards of glass. In the goggle.

Yeah, I think I want a point. I want a quarter of the purse. Well, I don't know. There's some legalities to that, I think. And that could really be interesting. If a guy is, the UFC doesn't look like a fighter. Yeah, well, that's not really an excuse for morality here. It's like, Japan does it?

No, yeah, they do. But that's preemptively discussed before the fight. That's in their contract. I know what you mean by taking away the money, but it's such a gray area is like what is them jousting their fingers

in an eye and what's framing on the face because there is like putting your fingers out there is like a move. Bro, your fingers are your responsibility.

I never hear in football whether that was an intentional or accidental off sides. Yep. The quarterback, this is American football I'm talking about, the quarterback baited you

with like yelling hut, hut, you don't know which hut he means. His team knows third hut you go. Your team is being fooled. So they'll be like, hut, hut,

hut, right? They're trying to trick you. And they never say, that's not off sides. He only accidentally jumped off off sides. No, fucking put your fingers in a fist or deal with the consequences,

a point and a quarter of your purse. If you're putting your fingers out there, extending them in people, Jones is in an interview thing. He trained I pokes. Fuck that scumbag. One of the scumiest persons ever to walk the earth. But he can't be alone.

He's just the only guy who says it in his interviews. Gagne is, I'm watching like montages, compilations of him doing different fouls, kicking in the balls, poking in the eyes, back of the head. It goes on and on. But the eyepokes in particular are devastating. They can be career and life altering. And I don't want to hear it's accidental anymore. The accidents will stop when the penalties start rolling in. How about this?

He eye pokes, the opponent gets one free eye poke. And then the, and then the fight resumes. Oh, yeah. He has to put his hands in his pockets and wait. You said to, because I don't know anything about, I don't know anything about MMA. Myrubon is the biggest part in the world right now. It's beating over Instagram. 10 billion impressions on India alone.

Kyle, it's bigger than you can ever imagine. it's not a gay boring retarded nonsensical you know when he lies to me about powers he's like trump when he lies to me about power slap then i question everything he ever says thereafter it's like yeah i know that one's a lie and you're saying it's so full-throatedly that nothing you ever saved that's how i i use trump what that's how i talk to girls at restaurants now i'm like i've been to every single sushi restaurant in the city and this is the best one it's the best one. The chefs here, I know them. They're probably not here now.

We can't confirm it. But like, if you use Trump voice and you're super confident, there's a reason that shit works. Like, can you imagine him walking, but pre-internet walking into a room for like a real estate deal in like 1984? And they're like, we'll give it to you

for this. And he's like, that's gay and retarded. We're not doing that. Everyone's talking about what a terrible building this is. I just walked in. Someone said, are you buying this? I said, I hope. not. Days before the internet must have been so far, I'd be lying my ass off before the internet.

Before like being able to fact check everything you ever said, I'd be getting up to all sorts with all these stories. I would have been making up so many sports stats. 100%. But yeah, to the I poke point, no, I agree with you. It's just that sometimes there's Jim Miller said this. He's a OG veteran fighter. He's never I poked anyone.

He's got the most fights in UFC history. He's never I poked anyone. And then there's fighters that I poke someone every fucking. can fight so it's just a thing where some fighters never do it other fighters always do it so it must be a conscious decision to sure and with the poke even if they're not trying necessarily to poke them they're creating like a defensive like porcupine defense basically it's like yeah don't try to hit me or anything or i'll blind you yeah it's like maybe don't come right at him and like go like that but like john john jones that keeps his distance like that he's always probing with this and it's like

I wish they'd be like, and I hear him, like, fingers up. Fingers up, John. He's like, yeah, for now. And, you know, least knowledgeable here about this. But I did see, I saw a picture on the internet of the gloves that the Japanese fighters use versus the gloves that American fighters use. And I guess the Japanese gloves prevent eye poking because they come out much further on the finger and the pad extends beyond the tip of the finger.

So you can't stab. Whereas the American ones are the, I guess the rest of the world. ones cut off like here and so you can still get pretty nasty with it. The Japanese gloves these are the old pride gloves. If you relaxed your hand, they would sit in kind of a curve. So you had half a

fist. And the American ones, if you relax your hand, it's a little straighter, but I don't buy it. You can make a fist in both gloves. They're just not, do you even have a rule against eye pokes if there's no penalty for it? You just get

sometimes four warnings in a fight. It's outrageous. Oh, that guy didn't get in trouble at all? The guy who snapped through Aspenol's eye. You get one free everything. So basically, UFC fighters. One? This is real.

What a joke is. You get at least one free. Yeah, at least one free. But then once you do two, it's a gray area. Like, are they may be going to take a point, which is a crazy thing? But basically, UFC fighters should be aware of this. You get a couple back of the head shots. You get a groin shot and you get an eye poke.

Use them fucking wisely. Derek Lewis said, I want one time Derek Lewis said Yeah man Sometimes when I get tired I just go poke them And get a brief

I just get a brief These two charismatic Yeah It's true You get a poke If they can't They can't hit me no more Yeah

Yeah that's great I saw that That clip of That guy going Knuckle deep In Aspinall's skull And I'm like This must have been

A disqualification And then Kyle texted like, no, just it was called the no contest and it's like, oh really? So is there a clip of Aspinall knuckle deep in the other guy's eye? Like almost a tit for tat? No, no, we just It was a second eye poke too. Yeah, there were two I poxed nothing about the first I poke.

That's crazy. And by the way, there was the first round. Just so we're it was the first fucking round. We didn't make it out of the first. Okay, we've been here five minutes. You've poked me in the eye twice. Like, I hate that. That's got to speak to how afraid he was of Aspinall as a fighter, right? Like he was He wasn't willing to stand and throw because he was afraid or whatever their styles are.

This is where I'm going to probably differ with others because as much as I love Aspinall, he was losing that round. He was losing that round. He was going to lose that round. He was not winning on anybody's scorecards except maybe his dad's. He was losing that round. Gond did not need to blind him. Gond looked more disappointed than anyone that Asperol didn't sack up and come in there with one eye like Bisping or some shit. I feel like you don't know.

Okay, first of all, does he still win that round if he doesn't have the eye poke threat there? I don't know. And then here's the thing. I watched Joe Lozahn fight Anthony Pettis. If you don't know that fight very well off the top of your head, look back on it. The fight was about 90 seconds long. Joe Lohan won like the first 85 seconds of it. You can have a hard time finding them like Pettis looking good for more than five seconds in a row until the part where he knocked him out.

How did you do that? I'm sorry? How did he knock him out exactly? Was it like some like it wasn't anything incredible, was it? Didn't he run along the cage and kick him in the head or something? No, no, no, no. That was a WC fight. You're right.

This is the Lowe's on fight. He kicked him in the head. And it's right before he kicks him in the head. His coach, Steve is like, hands up. Pop. It was like, good call. But the thing is, if you don't know anything, about fighting, like perhaps me, you think, oh, Joe won all of it until one thing went

wrong. The fight experts are like, no, no, no. He was measuring. He was watching. He was baiting. He was fainting. He was seeing how he reacted. He was learning. And then he executed his plant. So back to the Aspinall Gagne fight. We don't know how that was going to go if there were no eyepokes. If they did let it fish. I got a good idea. Yeah. He did stop the take down with an eye poke though at one point like asper now went for the hips and he went straight into his eyes that was earlier on so that's something but i i i agree with uh fpsrussia over here i i agree with his Pepsi max as well man oh yeah it doesn't have the caffeine max unfortunately well there you go it's a better sweetener it doesn't give me cancer i'm told

but there you go but i agree that garnier was ahead of the uh of the round let's just say i think he was ahead on striking 30 to 27 maybe there's a visible damage rule where if you could do something that makes it look like you've caused damage he made tom have a nosebleed so that's he did he didn't break his nose i don't think but he busted his nose to a nose bleed so that's like a if it's close anyway it's going to go to the guy who's caused blood to be drawn you know yep yeah i thought gone was winning i refused to believe that the fighter i like more wasn't winning so there i mean we were bummed out how it works I was watching that fight with like a group of maybe 15 guys and everybody was, it's like, all right, well, it hasn't been a great car.

There was that one knockout earlier and then there was a couple of girlfriends and this is going to like pay off though. This is the fight of the night. And then that happened and we were so bombed. Everybody's, everybody in that call hates gone now. Like he lost, if he had, I bet he lost fans for sure. They gained fans. This is the crazy thing. He gained fans.

There's like a fan base that like, it's basically, uh, there's these like figures. that retire or like leave the sport. Jones is one of them. Habib's one of them. They'll just jump on. There's a guy, Armand Sarukian at Lightweight and Makashchev has his fans. But now they know Makashv's left lightweight. Armands like

their neighbouring countries from Armenia, Makashesh's from Dagestan, Caucasus region. So they just all hopped on to the Armand train like, oh, this is our guy now. And then it's the same with John Jones fans that are now going to be like, what an I poke? If, you know, let's go to Cyril Garne next. That's our next.

guy to support. So he's gained fans. Of course. And that was an important fight. Gone Aspenol is important in relation to Jones because Jones smoked gone. And one of his two heavyweight fights, if you count fucking steep he smoked him. And it was a cinematic

moment when he's walking away saying, shh, and gone looks scared over his shoulder sitting there. Either scared or shocked that he's been finished that fast. And I was shocked watching it. It didn't look like that joke was that deep, but it was. Choking the fuck out. So I said pre-feynolds. fight. I was like, look, Jones smoked

this guy, blew him out of the water. If Aspinall struggles here, Jones is going to crow until the end of the world. And if God forbid gone beats Aspinall, Jones is going to be vindicated. He's going to say, see, it's

exactly, he'll quote his own tweet from eight months ago. He's just the guy now. I'm the guy forever. I'm the guy who walked through four different generations of UFC. I'm the youngest. I'm the Youngish, I'm the longest defending lightweight, heavy, heavyweight chamber. Everyone who's come before me has fallen.

He's just a flash in the pan. Aspinall's weakness is eyepokes. That's true. Well, then, I don't know how he's going to get through. If he can't get through Gond's eye pokes, how he's going to get through the fucking eye poke master? I mean, him or Chuck Liddell are the, uh, the eye poking legends of the sport, I guess. Fucking ship.

That doesn't even compare to John Jones. Okay. Like, John Jones. Just go like this. Yeah, get, get, get, get it. When Reyes When Reyes fought Jones He was actually punching his fingers

Like when Jones was out stretching his fingers Reyes was like hammer fisting his fingers To try and he won that fight And he won that That's how he kind of dealt with it Like genuinely like I'm gonna have to deal with eye poaks This is what I've come up with to deal with them I guess that just goes to show up

You think palm shrieks of the fingers would get it done I don't know Yeah I thought palm I should be able to do manipulation No go on I was saying, I thought palm strikes were like an ultimate form of fighting because of some book. Kyle, was it hatchet? Yeah.

Where he talked about like his defense training being palm strike. It was a book that we had to read in like middle school about some kid living in the woods for months. And he was like, I would never do a closed fist. I would do a palm strike because you can deliver more force. And I guarantee that's not true. But like, you know, nine year old me. Like, yeah, makes sense. Professionals break their hands hitting people all the time.

So, like, me and you who don't throw a lot of punches are almost certainly going to break our hand or our wrist if we try to punch some guy. So, I don't know, I hear Boss Rutan talk about that shit a lot. And he's been in infinitely more fights than I have had. That guy's cool as hell. I like that. I love Boss Ruden. Everything he does, I find interesting and intriguing, his whole personality, when he talked, those stories about being in Japan and getting in street fights and stuff, it's hilarious. I love boss.

a street fight in Japan he had to have been starting it it's Japan that's you know he's he's in the wrong there's no way a couple of peaceful Japs decided they wanted to start a fight I've never done that before companies have never just randomly decided to start

a fight with another and if they would they would run at it with like a and they'd warn you first they'd give you fair warning they'd give you warning first and then our generals ignore it I I was in Japan there was the time I saw those on fight

and we're walking around after the fight he had lost. And he didn't want to leave Japan with an L. So it's Joe Lozahn, some of his coaches, and me. And we are looking for like Yizuka, who I guess hold Sunday night fights or something

and they actively want to Yakuza, thank you. That's probably why you didn't find him, I reckon. That's what I did wrong. You guys know where the Yzuka is? I do not Understand the question. So that they can get into some sort of group fight. And I'm playing along like I also want this and I don't want this at all.

Hey, guys, I'm mostly trying to find one of those panty vending machines. So keep me out of your nonsense. Joe knows on NameDrop. Hasn't he been on the show a couple of times or eight times? Yeah, yeah. When I was more relevant on YouTube. Joe liked my videos, and I like Joe as a fighter, and we became friends, I guess. We've all been on trips together.

Joe used to come to our paintball events, and I remember one time I went to a MMA gym, well, they did everything. They did fucking Crob McGraw and everything there with, like, Joe wanted a workout while he was in Chicago with us, and so he like, he didn't drag us. We went with him willingly, but there was a, at some point that it's me, Woody, and Joe, and it's time to like, hair off and roll. I have zero experience. it's at any combat sport whatsoever.

And I'm thinking like, what are your Joe roll with me because they know, I don't know what I'm doing, it'd be awkward if they made me roll with a random stranger here in Chicago. Nope, that's not what happened. So I'm under this guy, and he's trying to gain position on me.

And I'm doing my best not to get raped in front of this group of men. And he's like, so where do you usually work out as I, like, fight him like this? and you are i poking we're literally three minutes into rolling together on the ground with this well-trained fighter and i'm just like i've never done anything approaching this in my life i don't know what i should be doing right now i'm just trying to stay on my back here and not let you hurt me

it was the most awkward thing you have to do little brother technique genuinely works though honestly it does just getting real erratic off bottom position and flinging your legs up in the it kind of works being I don't know if anyone's a little brother here but I'm pushing back on it I mean yeah I'm not a little brother I'm the oldest brother but I do remember Kyle

wrestling you in a small patch of grass outside of like a Marriott no that's not what happened you attacked me while I was drunk oh my oh my God everyone was like I was also drunk and everyone was also drunk

and everyone was That's what the rapists all say. And everyone was like, whoa, what was that Taylor guy doing, taken down Kyle like that? Joe had to step in to get you off me. You went way over. But Joe couldn't handle it because with a flick of my wrist, I was like, he's slagged Joe's Luzon.

I was like, he's taken out a fucking lightweight contender here. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. That's what I want to ball in frame of us. There's some picture of us out there, almost Titanic about to kiss style, where I have both of your arms. pinned above your head

and we're outside of Marriott. No, no, no. That's me and Woody. I've got Woody pinned like that. I was hoping that picture wouldn't come up. Yeah, I... That was a funny picture. I'm on top of Woody, and I don't know what to do

again, because I had never even seen a UFC fight. I didn't know what Brazilian Juditsu was. Woody, he's a fucking blue belt or some shit, and I'm just holding his wrist. I don't know what to do. I'm just on top of him. It looks like I'm raping him. It looks like I'm raping him.

I'm sure he could have hurt me because I've seen him hurt lots of people before, but he was kind enough not to. Woody tackled me onto a bed on that trip. I was trashed and people were like, who wants to wrestle Woody? And I was like, I'll do it.

You guys have a weird friendship dynamic. Like you're confusing, you're confusing each other's, which one had me in that pose of submission again? Was it you that had me that way? I don't even know. I know it was all of us who got in bed and took a photo. Why are these photos coming up?

AI is something else. The worst part is Woody's in that bed With a lot of young boys Some of those kids are 17, 18 years old or something like In my defense He's well into his third And by the way Even if I did tackle you

Which is not how it happened You poke me in the eye too I didn't I know I posed You did I was like I offered you a shake I was like let's shake like gentlemen And you leaned in for the shake And you poked me in the eye

And then you like a high crotch And you slammed me And you hit my head a little bit on the concrete curve. And everybody was scared because I was bleeding pretty bad. And you were like celebrating. You were like, where's my belt? You were like doing that thing around your waist like this. I'm an alpha now. That's how it goes. But you were due, you would do that tackle and that wrestling match out front of the Marriott. Because of the shopping cart. Because of the fucking shopping cart. I had just met you. Yeah. I put him in a shocking cart like mom's groceries

and sent him for a ride. You pushed me so much faster than was appropriate. Right into a curb. I flew out of a in front of... You looked tough. No, I looked gay as hell, dude. Yeah, that was kind of the theme of those trips. That was the theme of those tripped. We're all looking kind of gay. Those are fun times. M.M.A. Guru. Yes.

I see your takes on Reddit. I see you usually passionately talking about something that just happened. On radio, don't... The takes on radio select types of takes, but go on. How different is like the comment or version of you making a video from the actual you um it's just i don't know when you do these videos it's like who you are right it is who you are like everyone tries to act like oh no it's not who i am but it's just who you are when you're turned up to 11 everyone has that version it's like a

drunk version of themselves it's right right it's you it's just you on caffeine on you know like yeah turned up to all the all the way stimmed up so uh there my takes some of them are like you got a sort of like sort of weighed through the trenches of like a live chat culture which is always tough to do um but yeah it's those are my takes when i'm screaming about something it's my take for sure it's just my take in that moment and and it's also my take at six a m uk time after i've watched a card for seven hours and some some bullshit's happening in the main event that's i said what it gets to kyle mount rushmore's four presidents right Who's on your MMA Mount Rushmore?

M.M.A. Mount Rushmore. Yeah. Does that question make sense to a Brit? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's the founding fathers of MMA, but people just say the ones who like paved the way. I'd say you kind of have to put Jones on there.

Even though a PED cheat, there's going to be other PED cheats on there. So there was an era of Jones being on PEDs where they just were all on PEDs as well. So I'd say Jones got to be up there. hoist gracey probably has to be up there on one of them GSP's got to be up there as like the martial arts representative and then the final one is sort of the debatable pick

and I would say it belongs to Anderson or I'd say McGregor I'd say McGregor at a certain point the impact that he had on the sport needs to be sort of I'm sick of having to wait 10 years after someone retires to give them their sort of they did the sport type of thing so it would be Anderson

but I feel like McGregor has McGreg is the guy who made the UFC what it is. Yeah. Anderson pretending he didn't speak English. It's hard to put him on Mount Rushmore when he carries on like that. That frustrates me.

He speaks it well. That's how you keep the Brazilian fan base. Pereira knows this well. Sharma nor Sharma. Simple one or two phrases, but there's a couple behind the scenes videos of him speaking pretty well. Are there?

Can you get Shama to me? I see it all the time. And it's like at this point, I'm afraid to ask. What is that? It's like good or bad or like, let's go or like let's not go. I'm fairly certain it's something like that. Well, that might be Pohar might be let's go. But Sharma, I think, is like, let's go or let's not go.

So you're just asking someone, we good or we're not good? Oh. Sharma, we're good. Okay, let's go for it then. It's like a, I don't know what it is, but that's his trademark. Is Yuri getting another shot at? at Pereira. Is that what they're going to do? Good.

I like Yeri. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just too much power for his goofiness to manage, I think. It's too technical for Yeri. Yeri's talking about middleweight. He's like to, he's 208 pounds. Most alike, Alex Pereira is probably 2.30, cutting down to 205, 225.

That's why people talk about him at heavyweight. But Yeri Prasca's 208 on one of his fight. nights and he cuts like three pounds to make weight or he's like two 10 to 12 so he really just sort of sweats it out most guys are like dying in the sauna and having their team like oliver's team are literally praying around him and saying hymns i love olivera's weight cuts yeah it looks like a like a like a renaissance photo or it's like a like a like a painting or something um uh of like some fallen hero and everyone's lamenting and uh and fawning over them and he he's laying there on the floor and everyone they literally laying hands on him and chanting and praying

and stuff and he looks like he's suffering the worst the fighter that was suffering the most during a weight cut whether they're playing it up or not though was um cyborg when i see those videos of cyborg sobbing it's like i don't understand that though i i've said it before um is that the ugly bitch i don't know anything about fighting i've never done any fighting but i have cut weight before and i have made weight that i needed to make before and i have made weight that i needed to make before and I think it's incredibly unprofessional to miss weight and I look down on the people who do.

I think it's super unprofessional because I was like 182 and I cut to 169 in like two days, three days or something like that. There was suffering. There was just maintenance and careful measured amount.

No, I enjoyed that. I was on the treadmill and sweats. I was on the elliptical. Is it okay? Can I ask for a picture of you that leaned out? Yeah, yeah, show me it like What Kyle did do himself

He'll dry it out He's not lying I have this vibe We're gonna have an audience tonight That we don't have every week You know MMA guru is gonna bring listeners That don't know

I was 182 I cut to 169 And I did most of it Overnight and the next day Just on the elliptical And sweats and doing hot baths And then when I got dizzy I laid down in bed

And like It's not that fucking hard So And nobody was paying me. I mean, a little bit. But not, but, a little bit. But no. I'm seeing the picture now.

What kind of fucking stack were you on? Dude. Greg Duquette's probably going to have a field day with this picture, I imagine. I got more plates, more dates as my trainer. Oh, well, there you go. That makes sense. Not nearly as much. Do another one.

I want to see another few. How are you less red on the source? That's a crazy dynamic there. I think it was sunburned as hell. Yeah, I'm sunburned or I'd been in the tanning bed. That's a good time to take a before picture, by the way. When you're so sunburned, you're unrecognizable. He might have been on the sauce in the first picture just at the very beginning.

Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, just starting. I got to say, the Kyle I want to chill with, it's on the left. He's the one who's going to go in on it when I'm like, should I door dash another Chinese food order? You can see on the left. If you look at my belt, you can see the injection mark. Really? Oh, is that little, that little bruises?

Yeah, yeah. Was this maintained? How long was it? Yeah, how long was this maintained for as well? Did you immediately get the picture in NASA? Oh, no. I'm still taking TRT. I'm definitely not that fucking lame.

No, he means that. Like, after you took those photos, the final ones, you rehydrated pretty quickly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't have a Coke. Which is a better thing, because then you get more swall. yeah yeah you're like most of your you know there's a lot of water in your muscles but but like you know that's not nearly as much steroids as you would guess that's like a strong TRT dose that like that's a legit doctor prescribed TRT dose and just working out and maintaining a super regimented diet and a bunch

of other stuff um i was injecting el carnitine um but that's like an amino acid um and testosterone and that's that's pretty much it that was the funniest period of the show because I was on Twitch streaming and everyone would be like, oh, tell fucking Pyle to lose some weight. I banned Pyle is a word on my stream. I heard it so many times. Oh, no, I love it. I never banned it because I wanted more people to say that to be like, check out fat ass pile. Check out this fucking idiot.

And in my head, I'm like, oh, yeah, maybe he's gained a bit of weight or like saying out to the stream like, ah, maybe he's, maybe he's been snacking a bit, knowing in my head like, no, Kyle's like, fucking. shredded. He's going to show it in three weeks. Yeah, we had Tucker on the show. It was trying to be nice. We had Tucker on the show and he called me fat and I was like, there's this great clip where I'm like, I might just be the fittest person here. And then like music plays, just like, doon, don't

don't, don't, don't. And it like shows pictures of me. He's like super shredded. Not Tucker Carlson. No, no. Not someone like this. Yeah, we had old Tucker Carlson on the show. Friend of the show, Tucker Carlson, out. If we can get him on.

I know a Tucker. Why do I feel like he's played with like optic hex once, right? Is that the Tucker? Yeah, that's probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we had X on like two weeks ago. Wow, there you go, dude. This is YouTube culture right here.

You guys are like origin stories of YouTube big time. I used to watch, um, dude, the Wings of Redemption Meltdown. I made a breakdown video on my second channel for Wings versus Boogie. Like, it did really well. It did really well. as well like i normally break down like how did perera figure out the low kit game of adasania and then one episode was just let's break down what wings did so well against boogie and nephi because dude wings kind of had some good setups and entries and his lead hook was looking

kind of for a guy that size dude he was actually fairly nimble his his lead up was sick when he went out there rapping yeah that was that was awesome like i loved that for wings It was like he first started. I've said it before. I always want to give him his flowers on that because he's awful to us and I'll never lie about him. I only say the truth, whether it's good, bad or ugly. Him being able to come out that way, wrap in that high pressure moment where my heart would have been racing just from the pressure of the moment and not be out of breath when he got down there. Suggest to me that he was calm in that moment, which is incredible.

Like to walk out there and not be scared or intimidated, maybe not a boogie, but just of the moment of the million. who will eventually watch this, if not on replay. Like, if he goes out there and literally shits himself, like, this is going to be the most, this could be the most humiliating moment of my life. Yeah. No shirt on. Yeah, that's the worst part.

Like, I don't think he even had nerves to be like, oh my God, I'm squaring off against boogies. Probably, like, sweat him thinking, fuck, I've got to take my shirt off in like a minute's time. He has no shirt. Yeah. Oh, there you go. I talked to him or texted with him before the fight.

He was extremely confident. There was a moment. And they did a, like, a press conference before the fight, and Boogie struggled with the steps, and that was what Wings needed. He was like, oh, my God, that mother trucker can't do three steps. This fight is in the bag. And it was. Boogie is an exceptional case, man. I was trying to break down his, like, technique, like, that he was going for in that fight.

Like, I was trying to give it some kind of, like, I had to take down my second channel because the UFC saw I was using their content and got me on two. copyrights and if they get you on three you're done basically so I was just like fuck if they get another one I'm done so I took it all down but I think I still have that video saved just particularly in a folder not deleted because

dude Boogie was like if I can't see the punches they won't hurt me he was genuinely looking away the other direction and flinging his arms out wings was on him Wings was on him like Boogie was like spooked the whole time like afraid of engaging

in the fight he signed up for and Wings did a good job and you know not taking anything away from Wings but if I were to globally pick someone to box in front of people I would pick Boogie 2988

yeah like that's too I would go into it like I could do a cartwheel and break an ankle and I'm going to beat his ass like I could do whatever I could do whatever I want on the way in because this guy can't move at all yeah he had like a look on his face most fighters are like holy shit this guy hits hard or wow this guy's fast you can kind of see

this look on their face he had this look on his face that was kind of like oh my god he's actually like punching me for real like this isn't some like scripted thing like you're actually hitting me he was like come on man i think he even said come on man after he got hit by a couple of shots but yeah he was up against an undefeated professional fighter he really didn't have a shot well it was too don't take it don't take that away from wings it was two undefeated professional fighters at the time true yeah he defeated him against a lot a combined that was uh hundreds pounds in the ring they had like uh you know those girders that like the people who built new york sat on yeah that's what that's what that was under that fight stage that night to keep those fuckers from falling through

the the structure integrity of the ring was the real champion there i mean Jesus Christ, look, I, I loved watching that. I wish they would do more of those types of fights. Misfits boxing, you know they're doing Tate versus D'Amour, Andrew Tates versus Chase D'Amour, and now they've got like Tony Ferguson on now. Who's Chase D'Amour? Oh, yeah, Tony got his win.

He broke that losing straight. That is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen, and I don't mean that in a mean way. I mean, literally pathetic, not in the insulting way that words usually used. I feel so bad for Tony Ferguson that I think I'll be going to bed sometimes, and I'll be like, oh, Tony's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, his losing streak was tough, dude. It was just any type of win was good to get, even if it was against salt happy,

but I missed a shit show. He celebrated like he'd won the World Series or something. He was on his knees, yeah, but it's everything, dude, coming off a win is big for Ferguson's esteem. Like, that is, that has been his thing. His win streak was so long in the first place that that was almost, his personality was that he wins. Remember when he was tearing the mantle of his home apart, remember what he was tearing

the mantle of his home apart, looking for the wire. the government was using to listen to listening on it i remember when he the phone call of his wife while he threw holy water at her on the phone to the police i mean i was ruined b j pens shit i think we were all going wild he's got capgras syndrome i think right is the the thing you get from meth is that what is that what is capgras syndrome i've never heard of that uh it's like this thing where you sort of have these uh psychotic thoughts that sort of come from like doing drugs and people were saying that maybe he was on meth for a certain amount of time. My fan base, I was so terrified of this.

BJ Penn is like losing his mind. And I said as a joke, when Halloween comes around, we should all message BJ Penn saying, stop asking questions, all at the same time on Halloween. And I really tried afterwards to be like, let's cancel this. But they kept going, are we still on for Halloween? Thousands of them. Are we still on for Halloween?

We're going to get him. No, don't. Don't call back on a hilarious joke. That's very cool. Did it happen? No, I really, maybe a couple of them did, but I really tried to avoid bringing that up again because that went off on like TikTok. This is the problem, dude. I say something that goes off on TikTok.

Now I'm responsible for the fucking crash out of the things you say. I don't think he's on meth because he's still chubby. I think he, and I think he's alcohol and CTE. And it's fed into, it's exacerbated. sort of paranormal, not paranormal, but paranoid delusions that he has because he thinks his mother's literally been replaced by an imposter or something and all sorts of crazy stuff. Zach's posting on the side.

If you're here from M.A. Guru, you don't know our show. I heard, I heard it was mad. Our young Jamie, it says traumatic brain injury can damage your cortex and lead the breast syndrome. I did hear that like people were saying rumors on the street were that he did do meth a couple times so that was also a part of it but yeah apparently it's just he got like knocked out in a street fight this is like really humiliating for m a may fighters some fat guy in a bar basically was like oh you think you're tough like to bj fucking pen and it was gonna like you were watching it thinking this

is going to be one of those videos where the fucking guy who doesn't know who he's messing with takes on bj pen and he slept bj pen really badly on the concrete and then b j pen like went back for round two and took the guy down from behind and just beat the shit out of him on the ground. Did he? It was like the worst. Teach you to turn your back. Yeah.

You got your pearl harbor on me, but here comes to war. Yeah. Oh, okay. There you go. A little Hawaii spin. Yeah. I feel sorry for that guy big time,

because I didn't get into MMA until, actually, Woody got me into MMA. I went to his house, and we watched Jones versus Chale Sonner. And I didn't know enough about the game or the fighters to know what was going to happen or who was who or what their pedigrees were. But I saw the like before the when you buy the pay-per-view, obviously get that big lead up where they explained to casuals like me. Like what's going on?

Who these people are? And getting all these sound bites, a jail fucking sun. And he's like, this guy's light work for me. This guy's, I'm the American gangster. You don't understand. I'm a bank robin bad motherfucker. And John Jones to his credit knew how to sell a fight.

He wasn't like, this guy's not even in my weight class, and he's never defeated anybody at my level. Look at his record right now. When's the last time he beat anyone of note? I'm twice as big and three times as strong. He didn't say that. He was like, it's, it's, you know, it's going to be

a tough. This guy had to see people publicly litter. I was Charles. I saw people litre publicly in my street. I don't know the things I've seen. My neighbor's kids had to share a Mercedes that they got for Christmas. There were years where my father didn't make six digits. Well, barely make six digits.

Nobody likes litter bugs. That's fair. I think Chale was the best fight promoter ever. A lot of people would pick Conn, but Connor, but Chale's my guy. I like him. But Connor made me a hardcore fan, though. His interviews, like, because for me, it was like, no offense. to you, are you all American here or is they a Canadian in it?

No, America. No, all you're saying. It's always hard for me to tell. But Americans, when they trash talk, it's very like of the movies. Like, it's like they're putting on this. Like, it's not like pub shit talk. I'm sure even you guys would see that. When you see your guys shit talk up on stage, it's not like how you would shit talk

your buddies, right? They're a little theatrical. Dude, British and people are so good at talking shit. When I encountered them in the call of duty lobbies, I wouldn't talk. back. It's inorganic. I know, there are levels to this.

I don't want to. The American shit talk is like inorganic, right? It's like they're trying to mimic whoever they saw most recently shit talking in a movie. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But I don't think it represents like how you guys actually shit talk each other in a bar or like give each other shit in like a codlobby. Probably not.

I would just be like you're, you're gay. And then I can't say here. Everyone in the UK and Ireland, it was McGregor is like, holy shit, that's one of the boys. up there shit talking. And I remember there was a

fight of Cole Miller and it was one of his early fights in the UFC. I can't remember if it was his first fight or a second fight.

Cole pulled out because of a thumb, right? Yeah, he pulled out because of a fun and he made Cole Miller admit

in like a call that he knows he's going to lose to him basically. Tell me Cole, say it to me Cole, you know you're going to lose and he was like

yeah, I fucking said that man. Why did that? He was really, he was really badly bullying him and I thought, yes,

this is the guy. And then he called Ariel Juan, I thought or something, I was like, I'm in. I'm in. This is a little weasel. Listen, I'm the biggest McGregor hater, you'll know.

But when he asked what the thread count of Kabeve's wife was, that was the quality dig. Oh, because she's Muslim. Yeah. And the only photo of her is, it's the wedding photo. And she's literally draped in like a blanket.

That's a hilarious dig. I like that. What's the thread count on your wife you fucker he takes that verbal combat stuff to three more levels above what first of all he's smart and he's witty and i don't think he's got any writers with him any comics that he's like go into for these jabs and these it went with the uh when he fought mayweather my god he had like researched mayweather and mayweather's manager and he was um that that stuff he said to uh who's the um hell's noah there you go yes yes that motherfucker i hate i hate him more than chamois Ali Abilaziz, he said he's going to attack me once.

He's tweeted like, where's this MMA? Let anyone know when this MMA guru guy is in the USA. I've got a gift for him or something like that was his official words. You'll never, if he's listening out there, you'll never find his compound in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Don't lie, he's an Albuquerque. Look. Check out Cheyenne. Pick on Albuquerque.

fucking scumbag, piece of shit, FBI informant, tangentially terrorist-related, piece of motherfucking lying shit. Running all those fighters, Twitters. Kyle, also in Albuquerque, by the way. Oh, come get me in Atlanta, you bald-headed piece of shit. Fuck you. I hate that guy to fire. Big time, big time. Whereabouts are you guys in America?

I might be moving there soon. Atlanta. Oh, sick. St. Louis. Don't come here. Raleigh, North Carolina. I like it. Riley, North Carolina.

you're all around the similar area then ish state neighboring states i'd say five hours from kyle and maybe 14 driving from taylor which actually sounds huge but america's enormous so we're all in the i guess we're all mostly in the cc the southeastern conference yeah yeah yeah i can get to scotland in like a four hour drive you know it's a different thing that was like one bullshit little throwaway comment like 15 years ago I saw online that like one shot me with it where it was like if you're in the UK a hundred miles is like a big drive if you're in America if you see a building that's a hundred years old you're like whoa a hundred year old building that's crazy meanwhile in like I watch uh jr uh Clarks Jeremy Clarkson the guy from

Top Gear, Clarkson's Farm. I watched some, like, and it was like a little throwaway thing, as if people from the UK don't even care about this. He's like, and this is a building that's been 400 years old, and I'm purchasing it from my farm. And it was like 400 years old. That's older than our country. And it's like, yeah, and he was like looking to buy pubs.

And he's like, this one's 600 years old. This one's 700 years old. And it's like, this is a level of history. Americans don't appreciate. This bar started in the 1400s. Casually that's dead like it's nothing. But yeah, you'll go past places in London.

You'll be like, holy shit, the Romans fucking built this shit, you know? Yeah, they still have Hadrian's wall up there. Yeah. Where they had to build that because the fucking Scots in the Irish were so savage. They're like, we just don't want to deal with these guys. So savage. And they couldn't hop over a four foot tall wall apparently. Like, I understand.

It was bigger. It was bigger back in the day. Yeah. People were shorter back then. That's what it was. Yeah. They were usually known-sized humans. Yeah, apparently that's the situation.

What's making you think to move to the U.S. And where are you thinking? Everybody else is going to the other way. Basically, I talk, who knows what I'm going to say after a flight announcement and not knowing what you're about to say is like a risky thing in the UK. Very risky, man. You guys have really gay speech laws. We have good speech laws, at least for now. So, pop on over.

Depends who your speech is about here. But you'll be fun. Yeah. Well, just don't talk about Israel and you're good. Wow, wow. That's my favorite one. I just, I mean? Fuck that guy, dude.

You mean, our most important ally? What would we say? What could you even say, like, other than, like, what a successful group of wonderful people? Like, like, 10 million people in that country. saying bad about Israel like all the college students I get a DNA test every week now just hoping that it'll come

I'll get mixed up and I'll have some paperwork saying I'm a Jew I'm leaving the moment the IDF will take me I'm too tall. I'm getting out of here too tall I would please The Js are a short people they're very industrious Hey you're not what about who's the chick who plays Wonder Woman

She's like six fucking feet tall She was in the idea You Gal Gadot Dude I've never watched one of I've never seen a movie with Galgado in it, but I saw clips of her acting on Twitter where people were like, this is unreal that we let them in. And she's like, like landing in a magic suit. And she's like, and this is the time that we fight back for the world.

She sounds deaf in her acting scene. Like seriously, though, she does. She feels like she's dead. That is on the fucking nose, dude. That is the funniest way. She sounds like a deaf person. I wish a deaf scene will be on playing and she'll be like, what do I do now?

Like, what is, there's no acting shots here. It's like, bitch, there's no enunciation between your words. You deaf? That's good, though. I just want to be on the winning team. I want to be in the winning team. You know, that's why I'm going to the US. We're on the winning team.

We will eventually be the winning team because of the new. Who's we? The United States. America. Why will our nukes outclass Russia and China's nukes? Just because we've got more. Do you think the nukes go up there and have an arm wrestling match or something? I think that's mostly what happens. I think it's kind of like a looting tune. Submitz a weaker one.

Is there not a hatch that opens on the top and an arm comes out and then they do their bidding? No. Not if Woody has anything to do about you, guys. I see his silence over there top left. I was thinking of my next question for you. Yeah, that's what I do. Go for it. If you could change the UFC or the MMA judging system, how would it work under your rule?

Oh, under my rule? That sounds cool. You're kidding. I would be knees to a grounded opponent must. They're a must. We need it to happen. If you fail a takedown, you should be panicking. Like, holy shit, I could get need in the face here for failing this.

Okay. And also, if you're on the ground with someone, Yeah, yeah, you can't knee someone in the face if they're downed. It used to be that if you had any hand touching the mat, they can't knee you. So guys that knew they could be need in the face would just touch their hand to the mat and stop it. But now it's if your knees are down, you can't be need in the face. But what this means is that Marab can shoot and fail takedowns. And then once he fails them and he's on his knees in front of them and they've got like a dominant position on him,

they have to like hesitate on what they can throw. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, but you should be able to need them in the face from there, right? But then it would also mean on the alternative side of that is if someone's on top of someone, they can just hit him with that nasty knee from like top position. So it benefits both sides. Socky kicks. Flexible guys can throw that knee up to their own shoulders and above.

Like I saw a guy on top of a, I saw a guy, they were against the cage, and he's pressing the guy into the cage, and he's bringing his knees, like, up to his face. Like, guys with that kind of flexibility could probably knee you in the face on top of you on the ground like without getting into some like in a side control or something just just i mean i i like that i definitely do although i would like some soccer kicks let's go pride rules what is the uh what is the soccer i don't understand the difference i just imagine someone on there like uh if you're on your knees and palms right like there sure and another guy from the side soccer kicks you in the nose that's a legal in the ufc but it was legal in pride which was uh as big as the ufc call it 15 years ago

That seems like it should be allowed, right? Or what are the arguments? The results are gruesome. Yeah. So it's not allowed. Asia, basically, is the... It's not the pussy fighting league. It's the ultimate fighting league.

Well, it is because when they were working with Vegas to make the sport legal and, like, official, there were a couple things that they didn't want to happen. One was, like, elbow strikes at 12 to 6, they're called, and soccer kicks, kicks to the head of a downed opponent. knees to the head of a down opponent. Those things were removed so that they could get like legal in America.

Would that make, if they allowed soccer kicks, would that force the sport more into stand-up fighting? People wouldn't be like laying on their back being like, come on, into my guards. That shit would stop real quick.

Oh, well, then do that. As a casual watcher, do whatever it takes to keep those guys who are laying there like fucking like hermit crabs pretending they're in the position of power.

Haven't I seen guys do like, do like a flip and do an axe kick onto a grounded opponent? Rolling Thunder. But that's also illegal, but it's like the referee, and this is not a joke, the referee will be like, but that was cool, so we'll just let it go. Nekiel Pahia did a backflip once and, like, kicked someone in the face on the ground and got a finish. But they just didn't, they didn't enforce it at all because it was like, well, what a backflip. Like it was, they didn't change it at all.

It was this guy, Nico Price, he got like, backflip, kicked in the face. That was illegal. That's the rule. No kicks to the grounded opponent unless you're really cool. Yeah, yeah, unless you do it cool. I think it's just, they want to have some, this isn't a street fight. There is some kind of decorum here. And I think soccer kicks to them is just like, oh, low class moves.

Yeah. Well, it's not a gentlemanly thing to do. Like, you know, like if you were in a fight with someone that you didn't hate, but you had a disagreement you needed to settle through mutual combat, that you would probably also not soccer kick that person in the face. It is like a little above and beyond. Like I'm watching a montage of fried soccer kicks. And I'm like, do I want this?

God damn. And you see guys that come from Japan, like guys that came up in Asia, year he fought him rising, but he doesn't do this as much. But some of the other fighters, like the smaller fighters especially, they are used to like kicking people in the head. And sometimes they'll knock someone down and you can see him kind of, they'll pump fake with their legs like shit i can't do that here it's too vicious because it really is like the second you get hit with a soccer kick you're done doesn't matter how good you do it's

when i see it in street fights it's like the off switch i've never seen anybody eat a street kick or a soccer kick to the face in a street fight everybody goes out why is that a bad thing it's not a bad thing but but again the ufc is it literally straddles that line we were talking about earlier between sport and entertainment like it's not wwee but it ain't it's not like major league soccer or major league baseball or whatever you want to say it's it's somewhere in between like just how the rankings work how the judging system works i think there should be like seven judges at least five like and and the qualifications for judges should be at least written down somewhere and not made up on the fly the judges now they don't have like

a supreme court sometimes it's a boxing judge sometimes it's a friend of a friend yeah it's It should be ex-fighters or something, but you kind of want people who aren't in the sport to be the judges. Or brain damage as well. Or brain damage, yeah, sure. It's already too incestuous. Imagine, yeah, it's already too incestuous. Imagine some guy who, you know, retired six years ago,

he has friends and enemies throughout the whole organization. That's like the last guy I want to judge. On the other hand, they go so far removed that you get boxing guys who don't know that, you know like submission attempts and takedowns are worth something yeah that's not a quantify not only that like like if a guy escapes a position through high level technique or or or something like that they don't know how to quantify that they don't see it like and they don't have and i see people throw joe under the bus i think he's a pretty good job of helping casuals get the sport he certainly knows more than me and you know but like he's not the most technical guy he's more of a color commentary

guy at this point early in UFC three or whatever he started at he was so much better he's are nuts and bolts guy he's telling America why we're crawling around on the ground I thought he was the color guy for UFC no he's evolved he used to like during the fight he'd be like all right so what needs to happen here is ice band needs to get his elbow inside that like to escape the arm bar now he's just like whoa he rocked him uh you know we're telling stories about did he get replaced like they brought another guy on to do that bit of analysis and now he's been requisition

is with DC a lot and I feel like they think their job is to get excited about the fight and to me it comes off is so insincere and fake that I have stopped liking

him I look forward to other people can watch you know it's the evolution of the MMA fan you start off and you think this guy knows everything this Joe Rogan guy and then when you become a hardcore fan you think fucking shut up about calf kicks please for the love well you know what i you know what i'm going to say that when he

glazed ronda and said she could beat up maybe weather yeah it's like man you just lost so much credibility like like you need to come back and be like guys i was on ayahuasca that day and i thought i was charles dickens uh ignore everything i said about that because of course a woman who can charles dickens wouldn't have said that a woman who was 140 pounds when no hands cannot beat the greatest boxer of all time. In a street fight, it's fucking 50-50. You don't think that. I really don't think that Ronda Rousey could like get down Mayweather was, I don't

know how much wrestling. If Mayweather like wrestled in high school, I don't think it's a fucking little. What I will say is if Mayweather, if Rhonda attacked Floyd the same way BJ Penn attacked that black, that, that drunk man at the bar, she might, she might send him flying and he lands hard on the ground and she breaks his arm. I could imagine that happening if he's stunned when he hits the ground. But if they square up outside, I don't care of what surface, I just don't know, man. I think that he's the greatest boxer of all time.

He made a living out of not being touched by other human beings. And I saw what Holly Holmes did to that bitch. I just don't see it working out. It's true. It's true. How can he's the boxer of all time be like 5'4? He's incredibly, if you look at the ratio of how many times he's hit people versus time many times he's been hit and you look at the competition he's faced by that metric alone

he's the greatest of all time they can't hit him they can't he's he's been rocked three times in his career or something like that maybe maybe twice and not even more to do with his style of like and like anti-confrontation like throwing this arm up yeah if the style wins that's the style that gets you the greatest of all time it's like marab he's literally on his way to be in the greatest of all time people might not like it but it's it's how it is you win the fire you know i like marab i don't mind i am right on me

he's yeah he's growing on me it's just that i hate some of those other guys so much that i'm i can stomach marab um yeah i get stomach is it marab davishilvili volishvili yeah valish philly

he's georgia you and your name mispronunciations come on bro this is on me you should hear him say nermigameda you get bleathevili and he's from georgia and what i've learned just via ozm from Kyle and Woody being so into UFC

is that guys from Georgia play for keeps historically isn't like there's a lot of people out of Georgia like every generation there's a conquering Jordan I feel like and Georgia's a tiny country there's not that many people there it's a state it's like peak white I feel like it's like the white dude I bet the country of Georgia has fewer people than the state of Georgia

uh yeah probably probably I'm going to guess Georgia's state is like 7.7.5. I'm going to say Georgia, the country's 5 or 4, something like that, 4 or 5 million. But you got those people who are so poor, and they've already got that fighting spirit. And there aren't other sports there. Hold on, guys. I'm asking. No, it's not even close.

I'm asking Grock about this. Is it 3 million in Georgia? Holy 5. 3.8 million in Georgia and 11.2 in the state of Georgia. That's what I saw, too. That's not even close. It is genetics, though. There's like, I think it is.

There is genetic. Let me lay, let me lay my theory on you. I don't think it's genetics. India has 1.6 billion people. I was going to agree with India. That's a different part. They have fewer gold Olympic medals than like the state of Michigan. Don't walk me into this corner where I have to explain why Indians aren't good athletes, Taylor.

I'm going to walk me into it. where I have to explain why those trash-loving shitters are bad athletes. All right. We've explained it many times. They don't have organized sports in their country. And they're just generally a more frail and weak and low testosterone group of people. OK, it seems like your U.K. Prime Minister, he's just some crazy Americans, dude. I don't know what these guys are saying about you.

He captured this guy. He's here against his will. He's a superhuman guys. I think they're actually crazy athletes in my opinion. They are. I think in Kabib were born. World-class cricket player. I am the number one street shitter.

I think if Kabeb and his dad were Iowa corn farmers, and they grew up the exact same way, poor Iowa corn farmers, and he got into collegiate wrestling, he would still have been a great champion. That's what I think about. Have you seen what his competition would be as an Iowa wrestler?

Those are some enormous corn-fed boys. He'd have fought in the weight class. It's not like they have open fucking weight class in wrestling. you know this you wrestled who's that's a big grade or in middle school and I was I was the monster this guy hits puberty in the womb not true I had a beard at 12 as well not true I was 11 when I was actually I guess I was 10 when I started jacking off but it was wasn't until like 11 that things started sprouting up and I bet MMA guru was in the same boat did you hit you seem like an early puberty boy you get it no I was I was a double puberty boy you get it no I was I was a double puberty

Puberty guy. That's a weird one for me. I had an early puberty about 12 that I got going. I'm like, damn, dude, I got hair. This is cool. But then I also had like a second puberty, like 17 where it just went, I sort of became like my final Pokemon evolution. Essentially 16. Shit. That's awesome. I told you. I'm like just shy of six four, six three and a half, something like that. Yeah. So you may not know this Taylor. but MMA grew here was also to write it online for his size at one point until he appeared in person for the first time that I ever saw you when you were in South Africa with Drickus, Drickus DuPlessy, who I love and whose loss I mourn. Still to this day. That was a hard one to watch. When I saw you next to Drickus, I was like, oh shit.

And then I go to like UFC subreddit, MMA subreddit stuff. And everybody's like, well, we were wrong. Oh, were they calling you like, a little squirrely bitch and then you were ended up being big that's fine professional fighters and people were like giving them a hard time saying there's this fat little short kid

from England who's talking shit and then you showed up and you're like a giant king next to Drickus Duplessi dude these these professional fighters I don't think I saw it they seem to be like Tom Cruise where they lie they do a little bit of fibry a little bit of lying I'm this big

I'm that big I'm gonna do this and then you get someone who doesn't have a dog in that fight standing next to him and it's like oh i know how how tall harley from epic meal time is he's six foot he's six foot seven and so that guy is clearly not what he claimed of six foot three because harley is you know a foot towering above him yeah ddp is big though he's a big guy but the thing is these guys have to make weight so they're like holding them i bet if i caught ddp off season he'd be a lot more bulky but he's like staying within shooting range of 185 which isn't you can see his bicep vein definition like he's he's standing there at like yeah yeah yeah i'm in better shape

in this body why is he in those skin tight shorts is that the most comfortable thing to fight in yeah he was just training yeah that was his thing but i had the angle on him here it's hard to see but i'm only like a couple inches taller than him but this yeah i can tell there's some like bass fisherman stuff going on but i i wasn't going to say anything because he's leaning his he's He's head back and that adds to it. Taylor Fighters used to wear board shorts. And they're still legal. I don't know anyone who does, though,

because they give your opponent something to grip and control. Bryce Mitchell wears. Can't they just make it? Bryce Mitchell, I'm going to be in America. That's why I'm going to America to go fishing with Bryce. Are you really? Are you really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dude, that's a dream come true. I would, I would pay $10,000 to have like a fishing weekend with Bryce Mitchell. Wait, is Bryce Mitchell the guy who's like, Jesus is coming back Yeah That's a lot of guys to be fair Bryce has said more niche things than that I think that you

He's a flat earther A sincere James He's a no spacer He doesn't want I won't allow you to defile a devout Christian here on the PKK podcast here But Bryce I will also not allow it

This guy sounds cool as hell He says space is gay And what he said about Hillers Well now that you've co-signed with him He said he'd love to fish with it You tell me whatever. I'll cuss on whatever he said. I started reading about Hitler, and it turned out,

the only books says burning. You don't what kind of books say's burning? Queer books. They was queering the kids, Taylor. They was queering them. That's why, that's the book says burning. And I got a feeling, look, before he got hold of the meth and it took control of him, I think me and Hitler,

we'd have been pals. We'd go fishing. We'd have been good friends, me and him. He said he seems like the kind of guy. Yeah, he seems like the kind of guy I'd like to go fishing with, hence the documentary I'm about to do in America called Fishing with Bryce where me and Bryce Mitchell are going to be

so you're in muddy water and maybe I'll know So Bryce what do you think about the fact that all the books Hitler burned were like Weimar Republic trans books and he's like well I have an enormous amount

to talk about that with you it feels like it would be right I don't know he's uh you got to let people just go sometimes you know I feel like Bryce he's misunderstood guys. I think he's a good dude. I think he's a good dude. He sounds

like a good dude. He never put hands on women, but when he goes he goes off. Yeah, let him tee off. If he's a guy who's like, guess what? The Nazis were burning degenerate books. It's like, all right, tell me about other

things that I'm more interested in. Tell me about how Chipotle is fucking me over with their portions. Tell me about how they don't give enough salsa to you when you explicitly fucking ask for salsa I'm sorry to interrupt

or all these complaints are to be Chipotle related they're all going to tell me tell me about how when you go to

chick filet and you say I want ketchup they only now give you one little thing is that like the best Mexican

food that the world has to offer like Chipotle and Taco Bell I'm pretty sure that is right I'm not a Taco Bell boy not a Taco Bell boy

I'm I went I'm actually and they try Taco Bell for the first time and they say oh this is the best I've ever had

I'm actually in a little bit of a multi-front race war as far as condiments go with the food I've been eating because I have this fucking Chinese guy who will not no matter what I order the I only I've gone to the restaurant once I ordered it multiple times off my phone through DoorDash when they're closed to the public and every single time I order. I get a similar order, and my girlfriend and I get stuff. And then two seconds later, unlike every other fucking DoorDash app, he calls me. And he's like, uh, the Taylor? And I'm like, yeah. And he's like, oh, what's sauce you want? And I'm like, I want a lot of, I want like five chili powders. I want like four sweet and sours.

I want like two duck sauces. He goes, oh, five a chili powder, four sweet sauce, uh, two chili, uh, duck sauce. I'm like, yeah. He goes, okay, we take care of you. We're a little busy tonight. I may take a while. I'm like, that's fine, take care. And then he hangs up and then every fucking time that food is delivered.

And there's no sauce. There's no sauce ever. He bothers me with sauce requisitions and there's never sauce there. And that was the same problem I had today with this brand new fucking Mexican restaurant that popped up a few miles from my home. And I see on their big placard, they're like, we do breakfast tacos and breakfast burritos all day. and I go fucking hell yeah because it was like I was doing some errands this morning

and it was around probably 11 a.m. And I was like, I want a breakfast burrito and I want it with steak. And I pull around and I order that and I say, hey, I want extra salsa and you don't have to give me the salsa Verde. I want extra and all of the spiciest salsa you have.

I want whatever the spiciest salsa is, give me extra of it. I pull up to the front like a fool and I assume they've listened to my bidding. I put my bag in the side. I start driving home. And then not only have they not put extra salsa in there, but they've spent, you know, those tiny little containers?

They put salsa in at breakfast restaurants. Sure. There's teeny tiny those things. They put four of those in there. Two of them were salsa verde. And their salsa verde tasted like jalapinos were a black market food because they weren't in there. have the flavor.

My man needs the spiciest salsa in all of Missouri. It's just Tolatios. No, Tapitios is not the same, dude. It's not the same. Is it Tapatios? No, if you're pronouncing it correctly, I'm saying you're not understanding the point, which is that they did not deliver to me the salsa I was required. And I got through half of my burrito and then all of my salsa was gone.

And so I had a full fucking half burrito. And you know how dry that shit is? because these motherfuckers really want heavy on the potatoes. Not enough eggs, not enough meat. This is a real first world problem. God gives it a real discussion. To its strongest soldiers, Taylor. Yeah, if that's the way it goes.

I'll get some, some gave all. Yeah, but what about beans on toast, guys? Let me weigh on them. This is an Englishman. Beans on toast, they would have to be some very delicious beans. It's good. I'd hate the slander of it. It's good.

Beans on toast. I saw that when Taylor slandered beans on toast. I didn't see him slander beans on toast What was this? Now let's just get into this conversation Let's get it. You're not around British food.

You guys and also it's inexcusable, frankly, because the British already had a full British breakfast. You got the mushrooms in there. I'm all in on that. You got the fucking roasted tomatoes. I'm all in on that. You got the sausage. You got the bacon.

You got the eggs. And then you throw in this weird addendum that is beans. And it's like, Like, this is a bad thing. Beans are not in breakfasts. We're being bombed by Germans. What don't you get? We have to eat like this.

This is the, we can't just have mushrooms. It's not 43 anymore. Yeah, well, to a lot of people with PTSD still it is. But you weren't there. Why are you eating the beans? It's been a million years. Yeah, look at that. Beans are good.

You guys are talking about Mexican food. We've looked at this photo, and it's not that beans are inherently bad. But imagine deleting the beans. from the center of this photo and how delicious that breakfast would look because I love mushrooms, love tomatoes. I don't know what that fucking puck is. I think it's blood sausage.

The regular sausage is a regular hockey before you don't recognize a puck. Well, I recognize it as a puck, but that's like the blood. And I would eat the blood sausage too. And also those eggs look fucking fake. But the beans, the beans in the middle are the bad thing.

And the fact that you guys hang your hat on that is something that needs to be avoided. If I could just- Hines makes the beans. Not y'all. If I could just speak to the queen. Dig her up, then get a shovelman. The king then.

Who's the king there? Charles? Charles? You make it sound like he's a new, like, royal. He just popped onto the scene. Which one is the rapist? Andrew. Well, we don't know yet.

There could be more. Which one indeed? Which one that we know about? Which one isn't the rapist? You see? Yes. I want to know, Kyle. You were.

You were tacitably depending beans on toast. I wish we had royals. Fingers crossed next year, maybe. Beans are good. Beans are good. I don't know why the beans are beans. Wouldn't you like some princesses and some duchesses and some duchesses running around?

You'd be like, oh, that's the Duchess of Cleveland. I'd actually be okay with that. Democracy is pretty gay, so maybe kings are what we need, but we need to find a good family. Maybe the king. They're not from America, but maybe the Gratskies. Think of his records? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. More points than anyone else has ever. How about that actor that plays that. Is that someone else to you, Kyle? You're serious? I honestly, I kind of want an actor. Like, I want to put, like, Sir Ian McKellen in there.

I want somebody with Bravital. If you're looking for the king, he's already been crowned, and his name is LeBron James. And we're all speaking out of turn. King James, it's a thing. Guru here is the only one who lives in the king country. Who would you throw in the mix? The King of America. And King of America, damn.

Yeah. Bryce Mitchell, dude. I think Bryce Mitchell should be up there. Stay in a way he's got to say, dude. Addressing the nation. And let me tell you this about them books they were burning straight away. That would be so awesome. Like day one, he's like, we didn't actually go to the moon.

And we're like, oh, don't ruin it for us. You fucking do you guys. The Epstein file. Is Clint Eastwood alive? The people is like, Epic, All-Time American. My epic, all-time American reference. or like anything my dad thought was cool. So Clint Eastwood would be up there,

just him getting wheeled out to the ceremony or something. I saw him the other day. He's making movies. He can yell at empty chair. Do you remember like, what was it? 17 years ago when Clint Eastwood was yelling at a chair at the RNC and everyone was like, this guy's so old, he's lost it.

And he's still. making movies. They just didn't get satire. Yeah, no, they didn't, they didn't understand what he was doing. You're correct. They pretend it not to get us. They intentionally pretended, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Clint Eastwood movies have taken a ton, though, right? Because I feel like he's chucking his own ideas into the script. They're a lot of harder and sadder. I think he's, yeah, like now, now this is the part where I beat up three black guys at Round Corner Edition. All right. That's like his new part of these scripts. What's doing?

We're talking about Grand Grasmo. No, that's, uh, that's like, um. Yeah, Grand Turismo, that's it. That's like, the slur guy. Grand The Thief Turismo. The slur guy has got to be Tarantino because he's the guy who's like, I would love to have a part in my own movie,

but I have to be the guy that says the N-word a whole bunch. And it's like, based, hilarious. I'll take a shoes off. I need a role in this movie, but I need to be the one that drinks liquid out of sound like the X-P. You know what I mean? That's basically what he did. Imagine auditioning for a Tarantino movie and just taking your shoes off to say that you're in on the gig.

I'm not actually gay and it's like, shut up, bitch. I have a theory about Game of Thrones. You know Game of Thrones, the tits, they're, tits are weird, I feel like. They're very often quite weird looking. They were all so symmetrical in Game of Thrones. It's like they had to be showing them at the audition process. Surely they had to be. Oh, yes, of course.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're going to be doing nude scenes, you, you especially then, you had to, like, strip, down almost always. But one of the things that the Game of Thrones in particular did, they got some shit for this, but fuck anybody who says anything,

they hired porn actresses for all the background nude people. Like, whenever they're in a brothel with the Red Vipar of Dorn and he's picking out a boy and a girl or whatever he's doing, and there's like 18 smoke shows with like perfectly symmetrical titties,

they're foreign actors who are like happy to be naked and like riding around on screen. It must be way easier to do. Yeah. It must have been smiling. They're like, I'm naked, and my stepfather isn't even beating me. Tery's love interest was a porn actress, too.

She was. I've seen her porn. There you go. Method acting, dude. There's some Jared Leto shit. You know, haws is whores. But she was also French, which I know you guys, are you guys still? You have a little rivalry with the French, a little like, fuck you guys?

There are no French anymore. I don't know. It's like everyone hates France. I feel like everyone hates France these days. That's true. I think it's kind of racist and Islamophobic to hate France at this point. So you watch yourself over there, Taylor. Do you still bring up Agencourt, like in an argument or anything?

Do you hear a French accident in a cod lobby back in a day? It's going off. It's weird. And best believe they're understanding you, but you ain't understanding a thing of French. I do know a bit. Do they sound annoying? Like, are they smug? There's an arrogance.

In Europe, there's an arrogance of the French and the Dutch that people know of. It's like a known. They're very snooty. but I think they're all right. Most Europeans are all right, but there's a hatred against I don't know why the Dutch are. They're tall.

So naturally, I guess they look down on people. They're very tall. I think the average height is like six foot, six one or something, which is pretty nuts. Hey, all things considered.

Yeah, every with hayers, dude, fuck. That's actually pretty cool for them. That is good for them. That is good for them. Yeah, pretty good.

But yeah, everyone hates the French. I don't know why. What about Italy? What's the, representation is everybody chill with italy they they participated so non-influentially in world war two it seems like everyone moved past immediately yeah everyone resents germans because germans sound harsh when they speak but i feel like italians sound so retarded with their accent it's

like these guys couldn't have been up to nothing and what they just didn't they didn't know what they were doing in world war two they were just sort of track you got to be careful with the germans because like you're like what do you guys do what do you engine engineering back there, you fuggers. What do you do it? Because they're the best of the engineering shit. I think that's been historically established. Everyone else is like, this is a good idea for something. And they're like, uh, we are going to be very unfunny and make something's better. Yeah, who did that for America, right? That's you guys just poached fucking Nazi scientists. It was us for them. They were going to one side of the other. Operation paperclip. We went

boop, boop, boop. We stole all the good ones. Yeah. Which are the Europeans are the worst drivers? which of the Europeans are the worst drivers oh that country with all women probably yeah that one no there's like an Asian niche to the east somewhere but I don't know who the worst drivers would be in Europe I'd probably say

I probably say the English because the roads are so fucked anyway that people are just fucking spinning out on them all the time yeah are you sure driving is definitely a big thing in the UK because we drive we drink young we drive young I saw someone on Reddit I'm on there too much say that he sincerely

believes that even though America has a much larger population, the British could out drink us. And I was like, yeah, maybe. I mean, I'm not helping. I can't drink. That's absurd. That's absurd. Person to person, I

totally believe the British can outdrink us 100%. Like, it's part of their culture. Like, they can pound bruise. But it wouldn't be close. We're a huge country. They're not very big. If it comes to spirits no chance you guys have no chance beers is where the argument comes from where is like a is an american country boy you're going to be able to outdrink someone from like

a proper beer drinking part the north of the UK that's your argument but 30 million Irish here that's true that's true but they watered down they've got that but also we've got like like whiskey bourbon like there is a southern culture of hard alcohol drinking like we there is there is but I take a guy from like Sunderland to outdrink a guy from like Nebraska any fucking day of the week in my... I would take a West Virginian who was like descended from those like illegal stills.

The moonshines. The moonshines. I would take him over a Brit. Sure. Okay. Here's the argument I'll give you. Here's where you win this. A middle aged to old American,

100% outdrinks. I think English men, they fall off at like 40. They have a very short prime, but teenager on teenager, you guys ain't handling what like teenage British people can handle in terms of alcohol. How much? You'll start earlier. How much is like a teenage British person drinking on like a standard night out? A bottle of vodka at 15, 16 will be gone from.

Good golly. Oh, that's a, that's an insane amount of alcohol to be drinking. I quit drinking at 19. Because it was too intense. It was just too intense. Not because it was too intense But I was drinking And I just thought

I'm good I've kind of lost I'm over this I get over it Yeah You get your calories From the snacks I see

I hear you guys talking about Like I finally got my idea At like 21 I can go drinking And I'm thinking What the fuck Dude I was Getting drunk at 15 60

16 Like for sure Drunk drunk Oh yeah We were getting drunk At those ages too It was just illegal Yeah

It's still illegal But we didn't have the same access you guys did and so like we were getting trashed at like a fucking bonfire somewhere where if the booze ran out that's all you that's all you had whereas you guys could just pop over the pub which is like that is the thing I think is the coolest

about British culture is like the pub like everybody seems to maybe I've just been tricked by TV but like that local pub is so neat you just get to go there talk to everyone in your community it's pretty insular and so you're seeing a lot of people that's really cool we're just too big of a country to have that yeah that's a small town thing i think london's very different with that london's very they're trying to

get rid of pubs i feel like at this point they're they're like putting the prices of pints up so much and there's all of these you can't now you can't smoke anywhere so that's a big thing that's driven people away from pubs well yeah like you guys being on to the smoking you guys seem like more of a smoking culture than then even us and we were very much a smoke culture for a long time. Yeah, we are big on smoking, but there's a lot of, the UK loves a good regulation and a rule. For pubs to be a thing, you need a walking city.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, like, you need to be able to walk from your apartment to it. Sure, Boston. Yeah. Even Boston, not up there, like, like the UK is so much denser than our country anywhere. Like, you, it's just not even close. They have, like, isn't it like 60, 65 million?

people live in the UK or something like that? Something like 75, I think. 78? Maybe 65. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know my geography like that. 56. I'm probably incorrect.

Oh, there you go. And it's also hard to keep track because I'm like, all right, this is England and then Northern Ireland and then the Republic of Ireland, not a part of it. They're not cool. Oh, my God. And then Scotland and Scottish people, to me, have always seemed like the fun-loving guys over there, just having a good time. They're not fun-loving.

They're like dragged down. out most of the time. 70 million is the population of the overall UK. So it's very dense. England. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. So is UK the superset, that's all of them? Yeah, you guys are still figuring in your now.

I'll never get it. It doesn't include the Ireland that doesn't want to be a part of it. See, it's always something. They're going to be like, yeah, that's England except Wales or something. It's like there are sovereign states. What about the Isle of Man? of the UK. The Isle of Man is a sovereign nation.

I'm pretty sure like it's it's like an independent but not. The UK loves a good you're independent but you're actually not type deal. I feel ignorant for not knowing that is. Is Wales pretty? Are Welsh people pretty sick? Are they pretty cool? I'm half Welsh pretty much on my mom's side and English. So yeah, Welsh people.

I think they're different. Yeah, they're different. They're different actions. Please. This is even beyond. American ignorance. You know, you have to know that wealth people. That's like I'm half New Jersey and part Delaware. But they are so, they are so, they are so, they are so different in the fact that like me is someone from Missouri, it would be like if Missouri and, and Kansas people were separate

for thousands of years. And then we were just like, these fucking Kansasites. I hate them. They're so different from me. Also, if they were separate, but also upon many points in history, tried to fight each other to extinction that's what I think the accent thing is in the UK it's kind of like a yeah we're still fucking alive and going you cunts we remember what happened in like the 1100 you fucking bastards because there was a there was a part in the UK

where it was just like separated by square miles of like different kingdoms and this and that so I think that's where the one here really holds a grudge over the Civil War I don't think I mean they fly those flags and all but they don't mean the Civil War to Americans that was a billion years ago.

Oh, he's talking about the 1100s or some shit. No, but I'm saying two Americans. Their history is so long and so rich that they can look back and be like, oh, you French fucking bitch. Remember 960 when we owned you?

It's like, holy cow, there weren't even four digits in the year. There weren't even four digits in the year. Yeah, there is a movement in the UK where even though you're in the UK and it's England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, there's a thing of like these like hipster welsh people and scottish people and like even like the cornish

that are like we're different we're not we want independence we weren't a part of all of that there's like a a big like we weren't a part of this situation when it comes to like english colonialism even though the scottish and the welsh you 100% were side by side with us for the whole thing and that's gay on its own it's like you should want to have been a part of what england did that shit was sick but now but now everything is like everyone's a bit of each you'll very you can't it's very hard to find someone 100% English

if they're like native to the UK which is rarer and rarer these days if they're like native to the UK you're all you'll probably be 35 Welsh 35 English 15 Scottish like you'll be a mix up of some Irish

I'm hearing 35 English 35 other English 35 other English I mean it is we are the same country it's the same culture it is what it is Is the Welsh culture, like, what, what differs with the Welsh compared to the English? It's only different on, like, what you can insult them on. Absolutely.

It's the same culture, it is, but the accent is different. They'll put, like, but at the end of their sentence. And I think Australians do that as well. And that's because New South Wales, the prisoners from Wales were the first Australians. So the Welsh will pay, that's what I mean, but. And in Australia, that's. what's this bat? I don't want to do that,

but it's like they put a butt at the end. So there's like similar things there. But it's all the same culture, man. It's so niche. But everyone wants to be different because you forced us to be a part of your kingdom. We stand up. So it's almost like if they're around someone else, they'll ham up the accent.

I always think it's crazy how that island is so tiny. And yet it's, I can hear someone, even as an American, I can hear someone who is Irish. and identify that as Irish. And then I can hear someone from England and identify that as English. Meanwhile, our... And then like, yeah,

they have that crazy accents here and there. And it's like tiny. Their distances I drive regularly just for errands between different accents. And that doesn't happen in America. Like, Kyle doesn't speak meaningfully different for me, nor does Woody, despite the fact that Woody is from New Jersey.

Kyle trained his accent out from Atlanta. I'm from St. Louis, which the reason that most national journalists come from the Midwest, like where I'm from, is because we have the most neutral, easy to understand accent in the Western world. I sound like Bryce Mitchell. That's my natural accent is more of a Bryce Mitchell type thing.

More of you saying that, you know, God is the sun or some fucking shit. I mean, just a lot of twang and a lot of around around. The sun's not real. A lot of southern town Brerbrer Yeah, that extends a wild in the UK But it's a

It's a town-on-town beef Like I don't think Americans would get Because you guys have state-on-state beef, right? That's how big the country is. It's like, all right, so the closest we come And even that is pretty mild and junkie. College football comes close Because you have these in-state rivalries

Where you're separated by 75 miles And you hate each other's fucking guts. That's as close as we can get to anything like that. sure it's like that in soccer too or football but you guys have like the denver nuggets are going up against the oklahoma city thunder or it's like there's like these rivalries that states apart but that's your professional level but our professional level is liverpool versus manchester and how far are those cities away you can get it's half an hour drive 20 minutes

that's it crazy i i think that's genuinely the distance between them uh maybe 40 minutes out of bush. It'd be like if the men's and the Yankees played each other. How scary are the movie? Can you go to these games safely? You can. It's not scary. I think there's like a, you know,

have you seen the film Green Street, hooligans with, uh, Brodo, brodo's in it? And that guy does a horrific accent. Who's the guy, Charlie Hunnam does a, he's in,

hell's angels or whatever it is that thing? A son's of anarchy, yeah. That's a stupid accent like that. And it's like a really bad English accent. It's known in the UK for being terrible. I thought he had an English. accent. I thought he was naturally English. He did, but he's very well spoken.

He's not of the gutter. Oh, it's very proper. Yeah, he's with the allocution classes. Being able to drive half an hour or 40 minutes or whatever and arrive to people who speak differently than you is so crazy to me as an American. I just don't get, because like, in sports, the St. Louis, St. Louis and Chicago are principal rivals in most major sports and they are six hour drive from us if you go straight north and hope for the best with traffic like that's the closest other major city it's 350 miles

or something but even within liverpool as a city the two there's two big pro teams it's are you a liverpool supporter or are you a everton supporter and people that are proper scouse like well, fuck on this and that laden it. They'll chew up like that type of that. Like Pim Paddy Pimlet level scouts, they're major Liverpool. And then there's more of like a well-spoken scouse that they'll call walls. I don't know if I'm butchering this or not. I probably am.

No. Does scouse mean someone from Liverpool? Scouse means someone who is scouse from Liverpool. This is a redneck, like a low class. I think it comes from like Irish immigrants to the UK. They stopped in Liverpool. and they say, I don't know if this is the truth,

but they had like this pot of stew that they called a pot of scouse. Okay. So they were called, they used to make that. They were called scousers. And they spoke like that. This is their fucking accent,

lad. Amen. It's like a pretty accent almost. Like it's, that's a great accent. That's fun. I'm really good at hearing accents and like understanding them, even if they're thick.

But when Pimblek is on a roll, I'm like, I got a squint to understand this. And he's always going to breakfast light. as well. You couldn't get more English associated. You're a fucking sausage, lad. He'll go off. He'll go off.

He doesn't call him. He hasn't called someone. He hasn't called someone a tin of beans yet. Is that an insult there, a tin of beans? Any food item you're called, he'll call someone a cabbage. He does. I never put that together. He's constantly calling some breakfast items. That is the thing. That is the thing.

He's hungry during the argument. He's making weight. Also, to get cabbaged is to get fucked up as well, I think. Is he getting a title shot? I read about how he's in line. No. The delay is always the thing in the UFC. Where you see a delay, you think, yeah, something's not according to plan.

If they had the announcement, they would have made it because it's November and that card's in January for Los Angeles. So I think Armand, Suruki and Dan Hook is happening in November. and I think they're waiting to see if Armand wins and calls out Ilya you can't deny him I don't think much of hooker like hookers like a bottom of the top

10 or something perennially as a fighter I agree I really like him though I think he's one of the stick his fighters ever I think he could like go to war with like a gatey or a holloway but it's just against the well-rounded MMA fighters he I don't think he's not even a gatekeeper

frankly but but I well he is a gatekeeper he is a gatekeeper he is a gatekeeper Wow Not of like the championship He's a MMA guru Yeah yeah I'm not gonna argue I'm not gonna argue I'd say he's in top five

He is good Dan Hook is very good He beat Gilbert Burns He has like speaking women's across his resume Go on Chef Chinku Weili I'm a bit I don't think you love women's MMA

quite Or maybe you just Let me tell you how I feel about women's in May I think there's only like I think he's only ever been in the UFC like four good female fighters

that are technical well round did explosive and have the power to shut a fight off when they won. Shepchinko's one of them. I've always liked Valentina Shepchinko. I think she's kind of cute. I like the gun shit she does. I like the little dance she does.

I like that little twirl when she whoop somebody's ass. I like that she's merciless. I saw her almost murder that chick that time with those elbows while a fucking homie looked on with his fucking heart. Priscilla Cacuera or something, right? Yeah. It was brutal.

He was like, I was letting her be a warrior. Fuck you, dude. Anyway, she's taking on Wei Lee. Wayley's dropping the straw weight straps, stepping up to her. Shefchenko's a little older now. She's not quite the Shefchenko from five, six years ago. She's not as snappy with her kicks. She's not as on her toes.

She's not maintaining that distance. She's getting touched by people that I didn't think could touch her. She nearly lost her last fight to Fiore. I'm going to go towards Zhang Wei. I'm going to go towards Zhang Wei. This is the card that's happening, depending on when you post this, maybe this weekend. It's literally the weekend after next, right? Yeah. After this one. So, yeah, Zhang Wei, I've got Zhang Wei Lee there. I just think there's also

light a man's skill is always brought up in MMA. And it does apply to the women. The straw weights are technically better than the bansom weights. It's just a gravity thing. And there was a time when Rose looked like a goddamn technician before she, whatever happened to her brain before she had and then Pat Barry seeped into her. Hey, okay. Turned her into a rag rat or whatever. She was 14 when that happened. She was good after that.

Oh, good. Listen, there's actually an interview where this guy like Mitri-owned or some shit. He said, listen, man, I was there at Rose's 18th birthday, and he waited, man. And I swear to God, he said that in an interview. It's fucking wild. That's that situation. I think Zhang Wei bit Shef Shanko, because you've got a good eye there. Shefshanko is not the same.

She's not dominating women on the ground anymore. She's not as snappy to where she can head kick, K.O. You know what else? I watched the Embeddeds, and I saw one with Wei Lee one time. This is like three years ago, maybe. She was in China in her poor-ass house. Maybe it's propaganda over there, so who knows. Maybe she's got like a mansion somewhere.

And her poor-ass-house. And her poor-ass Chinese house. And she's like, I train and I eat and I train. And she's just like, she's like a machine being crafted like a fucking rocky four over there and I there's a lot riding on women's MMA they're just I know they want that Chinese market bad too yeah like almost as bad as they want that Indian market but yeah if there's a close yeah shefchenko's got a lot of close decisions recently and I think you're right if there is a close decision they're going to go Zhang Wei's way in the in the way of China she won't stop

Jeff Chinko no I don't believe no no I think she'll win a close split decision screaming moment China stand up, billions of people in the market. But I know what you mean about that I train, I sleep. She's like, if there could be a female Dagestani with a career of anything, that would be it. It's just wake up, train, sleep. She's very in that way of it. But Shevchenko's, she's been around.

She's been on top for a while. This is something new for Zhang Wei, you know, this is a new challenge. That's big in Emma. So I do think Zhang Wei is going to be here. And I agree if you most women in the UFC aren't very good, but there are some decent ones. like men heavyweights like a bunch of bunch of fat soes and like five athletes and i'm in better shame i won't sit here while you disparaged beche yeah yeah i can still picture ronda her and her her like and that that right that right that's the one we we watched that in a movie theater that

was that was that same card was yeah that was uh connor was on that card too betch co hair yeah we watched uh ronda ronda versus yeah yeah It was that same card. I don't think she was on that card. Because you told me about the four horsewomen or whatever. I didn't know any of that material beforehand. You're like, you see, Kyle, this Beech girl has beaten all of Rhonda's friends.

Now Rhonda's going to avenge them. Bce was so outclassed. I just think she's funny because she was literally certified public accountant six months before that fight. That's how they all are. Like, they were drawing from a very shallow pool of athletes for, women's MMA. I hope it grows in the future, but I think without, I think if Rhonda had been a legit, like,

goaded champion, she'd have got a lot of little girls into it, but the current roster of female champions don't exactly inspire little girls to be like them. Yeah. Maybe little boys. Is that what they're hoping for? Oh, yeah. They're hoping for a girl getting her face punched in to inspire

more girls to want that? Well, that's not what Rhonda was smoking people and being charismatic and beautiful and a bad bitch. And, like, you know, she was on Howard Stern, and she was on every late night show, and she had everybody, like, shining her wheels. Turned up, he was like one of those athletes in 1914, like, just the earliest adopter of something who isn't that great in the scope of it.

She's a judo Olympian. Was she a medalist? It's like, you think it's bronze, right? A Olympic medalist. I think she took silver or some shit like that. I don't know. Maybe she was gold. But she, I think the thing is with Ronda is that she's been bit.

recently, I recently made a video about this of her being bitter as fuck at the UFC. And it's because she never gave back off. When she lost, she stropped and disappeared. I think that did. If she would have went on a tour of like going into MMA gyms and speaking on

this and that and this, then maybe it would be different. And that's normally what fighters do. They pay back to the sport afterwards. But she completely disappeared. Did no need. Yeah. Pretty gay of her. She had a lot. She must like men or something that gay.

That maybe. I'm talking about Ronald Rousey. I tuned off for a second. Does she get fucked or is she Rhonda Rousey?

She's married. She's a clam hunter. Yeah, she's married to Travis Brown. Yeah, she married another MF heavy weight. But she was like really hetero.

She'd be like, God, getting fucked raises your testosterone. So I'd do it before every fight. Yeah, she's trying to like my boyfriend. and told me that, and it's like, uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. And come is good for your skin.

I'll go sign. Dana White told her that one. He used to date her. He used to date her. So did Brendan Schwab. Sure, do. Yeah, Eskimo brothers. I know the Lergeros.

Yeah, we know the Redid Law. Anyone, any homeless cats in here? I literally used to be listening to below the belt. And when I was, like, working, like, I used to deliver furniture. And in my ears, I was just listening to like, below the belt. And every time he said something, I was like, dude, they're going to rip him to shreds for this shit later on.

I'll check the Reddit tomorrow. They're going to be tearing him to shreds over this shit. What was the absolute worst day you ever had as a furniture deliverer? Um, I remember, uh, anyone that's done anything like that can speak to this. You're, it's nothing bad. I've never been really injured. I was pretty good at it. Like, they used to leave me at like the bottom of my, though,

guy I worked with was older, so he would go first up the stairs. This is a classic furniture trick if you're doing flights of stairs. And I'd be holding like the full weight of the fucking couch at the bottom. And he would like be guiding it whilst helping. This is the old age trick. And old women usually are the ones having this stuff done because they could, they don't have the men around to do it themselves. And they would like leave their cats out. Like, and I was like, put it in a fucking room. You dumb. bitch. This is what I'm thinking in my head. I'm carrying the full weight of a fucking three-seater couch here. And your cat is meowing and like going between my legs. Put it away. And it was just

all it would take. Anyone who's done stuff like this can speak to it. Your knuckles and fingers get fucking destroyed as you're carrying this weight and they're like crashing into like banisters on stairs and door hinges and things like that. So that was the worst. Just like potentially dropping something and then the rage is building and then you smack your knuckle on something and now that's another cut and then the cat's going between your legs and it just builds into this rage. Oh my God. Sounds like you almost had like a like a why so serious moment. Yes. Is that like a joke joke a thing? Like a proper snap on society moment. Dude, I was I hate that. I know you guys can probably speak to this if you've had the the crawling regular jobs. But I used to be thinking like

and I'm doing this never to be able to afford a house. I was in London. And it's like your New York, right? So I was thinking to myself, so I'm doing this forever to never be able to afford a house until I'm married? Like, this is fucking not worth it at all. Now look at you. Do you buy the whole apartment complex? I'm never buying a place in the UK. But, yes.

I'm doing well now. Yes, that's the plan. Yeah, I've got some connects. Bryce Mitchell said he would, what did he say? I think he said, dude, you come out here. I get you some land. I got a plight of land off the side. I farm it for you.

If you just, I'm maybe thinking of investing in some land by Bryce. Dude, it sounds like price is cool. Cost $7,000 an acre. Right.

You can buy a farm for $10,000. Like assuming you're going to be cultivating it is very funny. Where he's like, I'll do it for you, you know, I'll run the roller over the fucking field, mash down on those plants, getting ready for you.

Yeah, he's cool. I think if you're cool with Bryce, he's cool with you. He's one of those, he's got your, till the end. But if you show any level of straying from the cause, dude, he'll turn on you real quick, old Bryce. Turned on Trump. It was funny. He brings that Bible out. Taylor, he comes in the

ring. He's, uh, he had won a fight and he's got the Bible. And he's fucking fist upon the Bible. And then, and they're like, oh, Bryce, you, you got him in a fucking this and that. You really dominated. And you got your win here. Why do you feel? I just want to have a moment of prayer. Prayer. Come here. And he's like, forcing his, like, opponent who's a little dizzy still to, like, join him in a moment of prayer in the center and is he praying for his brain the opponent's brain and it's so awkward it's so awkward i don't remember if it was joe or dc but they're trying to interview him and we're we're kneeling in prayer and everybody's watching on sounds to me like this guy rules in all ways it doesn't seem like he'd be super awkward

for something like that this thing seems also super atheist as well so he's probably like really shunning it i think he told veto belfort didn't he tell veto belfort the way who's like ultra religious he's like whispering in his ear there is no fucking Jesus buddy there is no Jesus you stupid cunt and then and then Vitor took his eye in that fight

so hey he works in mysterious ways dude he works in his eye it was probably cumulative but I was no Vitor the kick wait you're telling me a UFC fighter talked shit about Jesus and immediately was blinded and one

Is that what you're telling me right now? That's what we're saying, yep. Wow. Interesting. Well, checkmate, atheist. You heard it. Maybe don't talk shit about the big man, you know? Better safe than sorry, as they say.

Yeah, I love Bryce's things though. You mentioned this about him with the Jesus stuff afterwards. But I remember they were introducing the two fighters once in the apex, and it's his opponent like trying to get psyched up in the corner. And then it goes, and in the red corner. and it cuts the brice, he's holding the Bible above his head, he somehow smuggled it into the cage. You're not allowed.

You're not allowed to have the Bible in the cage, but he's found a way to get it in the case. Try and stop him. You can't have anything in the cage. That's a big, oh, he's like, he's waving the Bible around. He's wielding it. He's brandishing the Bible. Like he's about to face a Dracula in the ring.

Like he thinks it might help. Dude, this guy, it sounds like he's adding a lot of flavor, so it sounds like this guy it sounds like this guy rules that's why the UFC I don't care about him like being like yeah what kind of books or the Nazis brain I don't care I love Dana White's free speech

shit I love that they can say anything they want to say and they still get their fights don't get their money taken away what little they fucking have and they get to fight their fights it's I mean if you step out of line you don't kiss the company's ass you get you get set up to be basically murdered but still

I'm glad data underpays the fighters I like them when they're hungry I like I'm on this I want them desperate oh do you want to fight once a year not on $12,000 you don't you know what's funny is like that's the exact perspective of dog fighters cock fighters

you want you want them hungry you want to fight three times a year I want them to really want win the difference between like a 40-40 deal like winning and losing is huge do the idea that like when the michael vick thing was happening you were like hear me out like maybe those dogs did better because they were semi-drowned in a bucket i agree with this take though i think the fight a pay thing like they're not NFL players they're not NBA players that some of them I hate to say this some of them aren't even that good and they're in the UFC this is a lots of them yeah

lots of them right on any given night it I mean they're great that prelim fighter who was probably paid off to take that dive like I like a regional circuit guy like like all those guys when I watch a prelim card now I'm just like man these these guys don't seem very technical And there's so many goddamn It's such a bad look for a major sport To have fat athletes Like baseball you'll have a few chubby pitchers And you maybe have a first baseman

Who can really fucking swing He has one tool that he's just amazing at And he can make up for it with pinch running or whatever But we've got so many fat fucking heavy weights With like who's that black guy who was showing his at Like it was on the Macy Barber Chocolate Pepper Big They've never seen them stop a fight

and stand fighter up so he could pull his goddamn pants up but they did it yeah his pants i don't know how he managed it his pants were too loose it must be a rare problem for him must be a very rare problem for him maybe in order to fix the problem i'm not kidding they tucked his belly into his pants to fix the circumference that's that's a fact i move there's a fact i move there was a demand there was a demand for more circumference from his shorts to keep them up they they tucked in the bottom layer of his Dude, I would pay $1,000 for those shorts. I want to put them on and tweet it.

I mean, if there's some short... You'd be standing in there like fucking Jared Fogel holding them out. Look at me. That's it. Some of these references are obscured. That's what I love. The family guy teaches me a lot. That's the fucking subway guy, right?

Yes, it is. Like, we're about to wrap and all. It's been over four hours. But we had this guy as a guest maybe a year or two ago, and he was Jared Fogel's confidant. The subway pedophiles, he was the subway pedophiles best friend. And this guy was defending him to us. Like, we had him on for some other reason.

He, like, made a video game or something. Yeah, I don't remember what he did. He was a car guy. Okay. We had him for his car expertise. And we were just shooting shit on cars. And then he's like, oh, yeah, Jared Fogel got railroaded. Those were, those were horrors.

They lied on it. Children. And I'm like, I start, he called them Ladies of the Night. And like, weird euphemism, bro. They're like 14. they're all like all the girls he was going after were like the the like mousy little girl in class who stays to herself these were not ladies of the night that he was molesting and and i still to this day that's my biggest regret that we didn't confront him on that like dude are you are you defending a pedophile right now like what the fuck what's wrong with you i'm pretty sure we did we didn't go hard enough we didn't go hard in the paint enough fair enough It was very funny. Did you know?

Did you know that he was the guy? No, we had no idea. It came up in the show and he's like, you know, I'm actually Jared's best friend. I see him in prison. I visit him at the penitentiary. He's doing, like, going through trial. Like, he's the guy that went over Jared's house, like pushed all the reporters aside and, you know, was his friend thick and thin. Any other weird guests you've had on?

I know, MSSP, the Shane Gillis. Matt McCasker. They had like a Pat McAfee on or something. Not Pat McAfee. Oh, we had John McAfee on. John McAfee. He called me a fag for having never tried heroin. Yeah.

It's true. He was like, you know what I like is heroin? And I was like, I've never tried that. And he's like, well, a lot of fags haven't. And I was like, oh, I've been owned. I think Taylor self admitted to being a square. I think I was. I think I didn't admit to be in a square because anything compared to him was a square because he was coming to us from the side of a fucking shack in the Congo being like... Yeah, he was in like a jungle environment in a mansion with this brown voluptuous woman like serving him drinks and stuff.

And she was cute. Spewing nonsense. He was clearly mentally ill. Wasn't he that was his assassin that he like wooed? I swear he like his wife now is his like wooed assassin that well he tried to assassinate him. Maybe because he was put in jail and then they were like, John McAfee is in jail in Bolivia or Namibia or whatever. Bolivia was it Bolivia? And then soon after that, he quote unquote died.

And then people are posting like, hey, here's 5,000 clips of John McAfee going, hey, if I'm ever under too much heat, I'm going to go to South America. and fake my own death. And it's like, okay, well, that kind of plays into the idea he's doing something here. Like, and he'll never pop back up.

But you know, you know where he does pop up? Is in the bottom right of my fucking screen because I'm not renewing. I'm not doing that. Never going to renew. The random guess that I think of it, we had the founder of Dollar Shave Club on. Maybe they made the funny commercials.

Okay. He hated me. I thought we were friends. I smoked a vape in front of him. He's like, you're vaping on the podcast? And it's like, where do you think you are? You think this is fucking CBS? You think it's 60 minutes, you fucking moron?

I'm about to ask you what your favorite part about eating pussy is. We had Chris Hansen. We had Chris Hansen on the show. And the first week, he canceled on his last minute. And as a way to apologize for that, the next week, he had mailed us all personalized coffee cups that had his face on them and they say like our names it's like Kyle have a seat for me right there or something like that some joke have a seat over here yeah it turned out those ended up being evidence in uh in his he had he had ordered all those for like lots of people like

thousands of dollars worth of them for like anybody he interacted with and never paid the guy our cups are evidence in some sort of a fraud case that he committed well i've got well you just Because you guys would know, what's your recommendations on me meeting this Sam Hyde fella? Because that's in the, that's in the, when are you meeting the same Hyde? Because he's, I'm going to be in Boston to New York, to Nashville, to Arkansas fishing with Bryce. It's an odd route. But I think it goes through Rhode Island, right? And I've, I'm sure if I spoke, I think I was speaking to our, oh, Brandon Buckingham, you know, Brandon Buckingham.

And he was saying, dude, Sam, let's get, Sam Hyde wants to connect. let's get this connection going. I was like, dude, if I hang out with Sam Hyde, I'm going to be on the UK watch list when I get, they're going to be waiting for me at the fucking airport with coughs 100%. That's going to be. I reckon I'll be all right. Sam's a character.

Brandon Buckingham is awesome. Sam is hilarious. I'm of the three of us, I'm the only one who like followed Sam from many, many years ago, the million dollar extreme, uh, comedy troop and everything. Officer faggot, he, officer faggot, yeah, that was a very,

officer maggot, dick pop faggot. that was a very good one mom's another good one but uh sam is because i i met him in person as well and in person he's the most normal guy ever just friendly easy to get along with but like he also has a uh an entertainment aspect to him obviously where he's going to be bombastic and things but uh you'll get along with him easy peasy because he's a very friendly guy when i was hanging out. It was a he'll want to spar. It was Harley. Yeah, he will want to spar with you and I would be careful because he's,

you're a big guy. He's even, he's even bigger than you. He's a huge guy. And he also does something that's hilarious where he's like 6-6 and he wears lifts and boots. And so he's the biggest person you can imagine walking around. And then like, I remember talking to him. I was like, so like, what's this? And he's like, yeah, dude. When I go to these sort of things, I put lifts in my boots. And it's like, you're six foot five barefoot. Like, why would you, why would you? Some men had like start,

like, thirsty and others like drowning in the ocean. Like, Sam's really doubling up on things here. Extra hitching the boots or some shit. I'm a huge fan. And so I like almost everything that guy does. And so you're, you're going to have a good time. He's a fun. Hopefully, Charles and Nick are there as well. Nick Rochford. Yeah, that guy is of the Sam Nick Charles trio of MDE

when I met all of them like Nick was the one who was the most and not most saying the other guys were like not but the most amicable like just wanted to talk like I was at a place

with them and I was like God, man, I'm trying to figure out this, like, home remodel thing I got going on this a couple years ago with, like, my back porch. And he immediately was like, what's your address? I'm going to look it up on Zillow. And then he gave me, like, 30 minutes of advice where he's like, you're going to get a lot of people telling you this is what you need to do. Don't trust them.

They're lying. They're crooks. And I was like, okay, let me jot that down. He's a good dude. I'm excited for you to meet them. They're good guys. Yeah, I'll go by. If he wants to spy me, though, we'll see what happens.

probably in it. I don't want it to be some Harvey Monstein in a parking lot type situation with a homeless man heckling us at the same time. That seems like I've set the tone pretty well there on what's going to happen. They'll take you under a bridge. Yeah. Well, thank you for coming on. There you go. Great meeting you.

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