Painkiller Already - PKA 780 W/ Goblin: Mail Order Mom Thanksgiving
Episode Date: November 29, 2025...
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PKA 780.
New guest Goblin, Taylor.
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Goblin, I was telling you a second ago,
I got sucked into all your shit from your YouTube shorts guy.
What struck me initially about your content is
how disparate how you look
versus your drug experience is.
It's been my whole life.
I don't look at you and think this guy's done every drug under the sun
a million times and then you'll start telling a story and you'll be like so i was in teawana
getting sucked off and i'm like oh my god this guy's wild so thank you for coming on man
thanks for having me yeah that's um that's not anything new to me you know i think pretty much my
entire life i've uh i've kind of gotten away with things because of that so it's definitely
worked in my benefit yeah you're in disguise so i the most recent one i saw was you ripping on
Illinois dispensaries, which I'm from
Missouri. And so we make
fun of the Illinois dispensaries all the time
over here because we're in the land of the free in Illinois
is communism. Have you ever
had a good experience over there? Is it just
triple the price? Wait, hold on. Does Missouri even
have dispensaries yet though? You guys legalized
right? Yeah, we're early
23, they popped up. And so
a couple of years ago and that we've had them.
And you guys are already beating us. You're already
shitting on our. Oh, are you
in Illinois? No, no, not anymore.
More. Thank God, I'm not. But I was up until 2023. So right when you guys got disposed, I fled the state. I'm in California now, which is not, I mean, it's better for the dispensaries and that's about it. But, yeah, Illinois is like, back when I live there, the dispensary is just generally not where you shop. Because, like, dude, the taxes are like 35%. Like, it's disgusting. And then you pay 35% taxes and you get shittier weed than you can drive an hour and a half to mission.
to get anyways and it's uh yeah
Illinois dispensary suck
hour and a half each way though
like that's your committed it's worth it dude
I mean you you go like once a month
you know you grab all your weed you drive home
you know you go through Indiana and all the cops
are sitting on the border and uh you just got to
fight through the gauntlet a three hour round
trip is three hours like you can
Kyle lives in Georgia he used to drive
to Illinois years ago
to Illinois to do yeah so you get it
you get it oh imagine driving five and a half
six hours to get to get to like
weed paradise and you end up in Illinois through some fault of your own clearly and it was those dispensaries
are so awful because my experience had been California and Denver oh you had the best yeah it's so nice
each each strain of wheat has like its dedicated iPad next to it that has like the cannabinoids broken down
and the terpenes and the flavor profile and let alone indica sativa you know it's all the lab stuff is
there you go to fucking Illinois
and it's like the stone edge first of all
it's scary and sketchy some of them
look nice don't get me wrong the nicer ones but I was
going to the southern most ones
because I didn't want to go any further than I needed
to near East and it was like they knew
they had you so I don't know
if it was near St. Louis but I remember one was
Thrive I remember Thrive
Oh that one's a shit hole dude
yeah and then the other one
I've got the other one pulled up it was
it's high profile of
Kate Girardi
dispensary, I think, maybe. I know, that was
in Missouri. Keep your artist, Southern Missouri.
Yeah, you're right. You're right. It's near where I went, though.
And I just remember, I'm
sitting in the parking lot waiting on them to open up, and they do
medical and
recreational. And I'm reading
the reviews in the parking lot. And it's like,
never return. Prices are three times what they
should be. The guard was staring
me down the whole time
with his hand on his gun. He
unclipped it when I walked in.
It's like so much of that where people are like
being basically intimidated by the private security that works at those places.
The one that's the southernmost, I specifically remember, it was nice once you got inside,
but they like pre-screen you in this second almost outside room.
That's normal.
I think that's everywhere.
They take your ID and then they open the lock and then you can go in.
Well, like, they don't, they like buzz you in.
And then there's, again, a guy with a fucking gun there, like looking at you.
You're like, you cool, bro?
You're going to up here here?
You had a weed
I'm going to be a what do you think I'm going to shit
In my pants like half a year we don't have gun guys here
We don't have any gun guys here
At our expenses like that
It'll drive a guy to just get it in the mail
Yeah exactly dude
Exactly drug dealer
But I know it's like a meme
And here in St. Louis where I live
Where all the southern
Illinois people drive over the bridge
Yes
I hear and then drive back
Because Illinois is such a ripoff
It's a known rip-off.
Like, all the weed states know Illinois is the one to point that.
Yeah, and you can't homegrown Illinois.
So it's, you know, you can't grow your own weed.
You pay 35% taxes when you go to the Dispo.
No one goes to the Dispo, you know.
Is growing meat really hard?
Like, I have about a 25% success rate with tomatoes.
I personally have never given it a try.
I have a friend who threw a 10 up in his garage and grew some of the shittiest weed I've ever smoked.
So I'm going to say, yeah, you know.
I tried to grow mushrooms once.
I'm 0 for one.
in that field.
Failing on mushrooms is unreal.
Turns out you can grow mold.
You just brew mildew.
Yeah.
You've got a nice fermented tub.
Yeah.
Did you get one of those kits that comes with,
hypothetically in Minecraft,
did you get one of those kits that comes with like the,
the whole mechanism where it's like,
yeah, you grow inside this box and it's,
it's got the special.
We went like a three kits or something like that,
and we haven't tried it again.
Fair, but I think we only bought one set of spores, but three sets of, like, growing kits or something.
I don't know.
I got discouraged.
You guys don't mind my cat's gnawing on my cable in the corner.
I'm going to go throw them out.
Knock that off.
Give me a moment off of there.
You're good.
Feline terrorist.
Yeah, I feel I have so much sympathy for you guys not living in the land of the free yet with weed.
Kyle's convinced Georgia will never come back.
Oh, they'll never come around.
And I think if I were to bet, I would think North Carolina would come around before Georgia.
But at some point, Georgia will, right?
Well, see, like, Atlanta decriminalized.
So it's like a ticket anyway in the city.
And that's where all the people who smoke weed are anyway.
Like, there's such a big difference between Metro Atlanta and the rest of the state.
Off the top of my head, like 70% of a state's population is in Atlanta.
And then the rest of it is very different politically and racially.
and like in every other kind of way.
So I don't know that I don't think anything's going to change.
We got that like that marijuana oil for kids who have seizures or something, like
this seems like a good thing.
But then I don't think they gave you like a good way to get it.
I think there was a law that says like, oh yeah, if you've got like I'm dying right
now in incredibly pain syndrome, you can absolutely have some of this oil.
So, oh, great, thank God, I need it so bad.
So how do I acquire it?
Oh, that's your problem.
It's like, what's going to be a huge ordeal to try and get it?
Yeah, you can't get it.
There's no, there's no way to get it.
CVS doesn't get it.
CVS doesn't even sell.
CVS just sells like packets for nicotine now.
They don't even sell like dip or cigarettes anymore.
It's just like all those little, yeah.
It's either CVS or Walgreens, I'm thinking up.
One of them still has the Sigs back there.
I think Walgreens still has the Sigs.
Yeah, they pull all that stuff.
Because you can, you can see those Virginia.
slims they always have selling zins now dude that's fucked up yeah dude do you think goblin that
we're any closer than a couple years ago maybe to to federal legalization for weed because that
seems like just the next thing we're further we're further away we're further oh bro oh you just
open my can of worms dude hold on so all right so educate us let me let me give a little bit of
background lore on like myself and like because i so i own a brand in the head
So I ship THCA to people's doors and I've been doing it for like two years now.
Uh, my partner in the brand is one of the biggest brands in the entire industry.
And in the 2000, basically all of the past year, 2025, there's been like a million different
attempts to try to ban this hemp industry that emerged from the 2018 farm bill.
All of the like, when you go to the smoke shop and they have weed in a jar and you're like,
it might have fucking smoke shop or a dispo.
That's all because of the farm bill that passed in 2018 that legalized all these hemp products, right?
right in 2025 there's been like countless attempts by a bunch of politicians who have basically
been bought out by like big tobacco and alcohol companies uh to close that a some people call it a
loophole it's not a loophole i think it's more um they didn't apply enough like discretion when
they wrote the the law legalizing hemp products and effectively they legalized everything you know
like there's products that you can go to dispensary in any state in the country right now and
buy that by the federal definition are hemp that you can just shit. But the only reason they don't is
because they're manufactured by a brand that isn't licensed in that industry. And just like two weeks
ago in the 2006 spending bill, which ended the longest government shutdown ever, Mitch McConnell at
the very end of the very last version of the bill sneaks in this amendment that redefines hemp
products in a way that bans literally everything. Full spectrum CBD is banned effective a year from that
day. All the THCA products
are banned a year from that day. All the sketchy
gas station edibles, like the Telt ate shit, and
all the sketchy stuff you see is ban everything.
Pretty much every, you know,
cannabinoid or cannabis or hemp-related
product that you can find in a
smoke shop outside of like a licensed
state dispensary is gone as
of November 12th, 2026.
And the reason that they snuck it into the
spending bill is because they tried it with the
2026 Farm Bill and it got shot down
pretty fast. They've tried a bunch of other
bills that they've been pushing for, and that
shot down and the entire reason that like these tobacco and alcohol companies are pushing for
this is they're getting ravaged by the hemp industry you know there's there's just not enough
regulation for the hemp industry and as someone who owns a brand in it like there should be
way more regulation it's pretty it's pretty sketchy what you're legally able to sell right now
but an outright ban is not the way to do it and these alcohol companies hate that people are getting
these CBD or THC shelters now instead of going and buying a beer they hate it you know
So they had to put a stop to that.
And I think overall, Trump has like, from my understanding, I think he's kind of made it
clear that like he doesn't really have much of a take on legal cannabis and he'll kind
of go wherever his, you know, wherever the GOP's heading.
And unfortunately, cannabis legalization in this country is almost entirely dictated by lobbying
money.
Like it is literally a battle of like, yo, who's got the most bread to make a polite, don't
donation, you know? And unfortunately, tobacco and alcohol companies have a lot more money than
the multi-state cooperating cannabis companies that want it legal. So, you know, until that changes,
I think, you know, we're pretty far from it right now. It would take like a different administration
with a different approach to change it. I think I'm just, yeah, that sucks. The whole that stuff.
It does blow, dude. I think I'm just biased because I'm from Missouri and we legalized it here. And
We're like one of the reddest states in the country.
And so I just thought by that like, oh, well, it'll extend like Georgia's more purple than us.
North Carolina is more purple than us.
Maybe that'll work in the right direction.
But I guess I guess not Mitch McConnell.
And was it even Mitch McConnell who put that in the bill?
There's no fucking way it was him.
It was some staffer who threw that in, some person making a little arm of money.
He doesn't know what any of this shit means.
Dude, he has no idea.
He has read it.
Three minutes.
He's like falling down twitching every three minutes and we still pretend he's making decisions.
dude it was like a thousand pages deep in the 2026 spending bill snuck in this tiny little two line amendment that like they had to vote on 12 hours later not a single person that voted yes on that spending bill read that amendment sure but they voted on the amendment and i don't give them the past that you're giving them like you fucking approve the amendment suck a dick everyone who voted for it like he didn't get in there without it being voted on they voted to add that amendment to the spending bill now but
Passing the spending bill, I get.
Some of them may have felt like their hands are tied.
There's people literally starving because snap's not going out.
Like, I get it.
I get it.
But voting on the amendment, no excuse.
You voted to do this.
This is where you stand.
We just need one better guy around Trump because I agree with Goblin that like Trump doesn't
seem to give a fuck about weed either way.
Like he's a famous teetotaler.
He's not using it either way.
He doesn't really care.
But he is going to go along with whoever he respects most,
who's closest to them.
Like it could be as much
as someone being like,
you know what,
maybe weed isn't that bad
and he'd be like,
whatever,
it's fine.
And then this is like,
it's kind of splitting hairs,
but I,
the Delta 8 stuff is so different from weed.
Like,
there's a lot of people who would love,
who would vote.
Yeah,
but legally speaking,
it is.
Oh,
sure.
Wild West,
50 state legal marijuana in every,
like,
denomination and every,
uh,
every,
every way of isolating it,
just in stores.
in smoke shops
you know
that's not what a lot of people want
and what a lot of people voted for
they want legalized marijuana
that's taxed and regulated
and weighed and measured
and you know that there's no issues with it
the way it is now like
look I'm fucking almost 40
I go buy my shit at the dispensary
or ordered online or whatever and that's that
but it just I would imagine if you're like a teenager
it's just really easy to get
like Delta 8 vapes and gum
these days because they're just everywhere.
Gas stations have them. It's crazy.
Yeah. I mean,
gas stations have.
It's probably like beer or alcohol, I could have.
I bet it's even, I bet it's even easier.
It's easier. Yep.
Explain to me why.
Because there aren't like little silo distributors that you can go get for beer.
Like there are guys you know with weed connects.
Like if you want beer and you're underage, you kind of have to either have a parent or
older sibling or you got to pull a,
hey mister and that's how you have to do it because it's all sold also like just a regulated
if you want alcohol but if you want alcohol but there's still drug dealers like there's still
regular drug dealers to just go yeah yeah there's way more options if you're trying my head I'm
like I don't know why the gas station people would be diligent about cigarettes and beer yet let
vape slide without getting carded I thought that was your argument I didn't do they even have to card
people for Delta, like, like, is that, no, they don't have a
right at all. No. So this is one of the
unregulated. It's one of the really interesting parts because of
the like the way the 2018 farm bills kind of worded what legalized all this is like
they never expected an intoxicating products to come out of that legislation. So
they never put any requirement for ID checks or anything because it was supposed to be like
people making hemp t-shirts, you know, and like their warehouse and shit. And like now there's
just synthetic cannabinoid carts at castations and like even for like my brand like we we ask
people hey are you 21 plus that passes the legal responsibility onto them every brand that does it
does that out of good faith there's no actual like if i for example let's say me myself i open up a
store called like buy weed online.com and i my first ever customer is a literal like 14 year old
kid dude and he sends an email to us after placing his order and he's like i'm 14 can you double
wrap it so my mom doesn't smell it when it gets here of course like logically we're like huh we should
just cancel this guy's order but like there's a lot of vendors that will just be like yeah dude
100% we'll double wrap it and ship it that's the bread and butter damn i didn't know it was that
sketchy and also like if you're talking about like a high school level black market product
if you're if you're 16 and you're wanting some beer to like get drunk tonight with your
bodies that's a lot of beer you need that's a lot that's a lot of square inches of product that you
need. But if we want to get high on gummies, I need like a pocket full of gummies. Each of us
needs one gummy, and I've got them in my pocket. And they look just like something that's
perfectly legal. They look like gummy bears. They don't say Budweiser in a big 16 ounce can,
and I got to have like 20 of them for so me and my boys can go have a good time. It's just
like three pieces of candy in my pocket. And now we're all blazed. Yeah. Yeah, it is way
easier to get fucked up on weed than I'll call. I always hear stories of like the, the,
bathrooms in high school now are like people just installs passing the vape around just everybody's
getting blazed before class and i'm like that can't be good that can't be a good evolution
imagine yourself in high school and they you know when i was in high school i remember somebody
brought weed weed one time and everybody was like all right well lock everything the fuck down
and call the cops and bring the dogs that's what they did because it's like somebody just smoked to join
at fucking school we're gonna get them but if you got a vape in the in the bathroom it smells like fruity-toity
you know like it's it to most people there's a lot of
indistinguishable from nicotine
yeah either nicotine or some are just flavored I think
like we're just flavored yeah super
these come in just flavor too
you can get them in just flavor
this is Mexican mango it's delicious
what is a goblin what's your history with drugs
and weed like did you start very young
did you pick it up in like late high school college
my first time getting high I was 15
well all right I guess my like my entire
timeline the first time i ever got intoxicated on anything uh freshman year high school i got hammered after
that homecoming that that year which was i feel like just kind of tradition at that point you go to the school
dance you know we went to this girl's house after and her parents weren't home and their basement was just
lined with the nicest bar i'd ever seen and uh we cost them a lot of money that night and yeah i pretty
shortly after that i started smoking weed just kind of casually with my friends um i think like i didn't
really become like an actual like drug addicted degenerate until like towards the end of my
sophomore year of high school I was 16 at that point and I started taking Xanax and drinking
cold meds because it's way cheaper than smoking weed shit that's early 16 you were Xanax
robo tripping it's pretty quick yeah I went from a you know 15 just a little stoner kid and now
16 I'm you know smoking smoking whatever pace you get my hands on oh dude dude so
really good, right?
I don't know where this is going yet. Really?
So I got sent to an alternative school in my junior year
because my GPA, I went to like a very nice school district.
Like my parents really tried for me, dude.
They wanted to give me a shot.
And I blew it.
I was in a nice school district.
And I learned that the way my school district padded their graduation rates,
they were like one of the top districts in Illinois.
The way that they pad at the graduation rates was all the little DGens like me with low GPAs.
They'd ship off to.
this alternative school that gave no homework.
So they come to me during the end of my first semester,
my junior year high school.
My GPA at this point is 0.8.
Like, I'm worthless in the classroom.
Room for improvement.
Absolutely.
Yep.
I'm worthless in the classroom.
And when I was a kid,
I was like a really good student, dude.
I remember being in elementary school.
I was like in the advanced classes,
making my parents proud.
And I ended with a point eight.
Yeah, point eight.
So you just showed up and then just like you obstinately didn't do
tasks or they're like fill out this worksheet and you're like no fuck you i was i mean by that point
i was either higher asleep in like every class like the only time they'd get me right is first period
because first period i just didn't have the the time to really get high enough yet you know
there was a girl named me she used to steal all her parents zanax and she'd bring the whole
bottle every other week and she'd sell it to me and then her friend named peyton had a grandma who
had a script for that too and i meet him in the library every couple weeks and i'd bring them in the library every
couple weeks. I'd buy the whole bottle from him. And then by second period, I'm asleep.
So I didn't do much, much homework. And that's what really killed me. Because like the moment
I walked out of the door, you weren't getting a single thing out of me school-wise. Like,
I'm not doing shit. And, you know, once I started sleeping through my classes, I couldn't even do
the test. You know, for a while, I was able to kind of like straddle and be like, well, I don't do
any homework, but like, I'll get a B or a C on the test, you know? So I'll kind of, I'll make it
past a class. I'll get a C or maybe a D.
but once I started popping pills and really the psychedelics are what drove me to like
fuck this school shit I used to take a ton of acid and I was really like invested in the idea
of like dude I'm just going to get a studio apartment work at McDonald's and take acid every day
like that was my life this is crazy because you look like a professional Pokemon player
dude I got a whole shelf of Pokemon cards right there dude I'm on point then
Dude, somehow I had the same ambitions with no drugs as a kid.
My GPA wasn't too far either.
You're like, yeah, my GPA was similar, but it was out of sheer laziness and obstinence.
You said once I get out of school, you're not getting anything out of me.
And I'm like, preach it, brother.
Yeah, I didn't clocked in and that's it.
So you were every single morning drinking the syrup.
up or taking the pill every single morning.
When I was younger, I was like, I don't think I was like a drug addict in the sense
of like I had one specific drug that I really enjoyed, but I was addicted to just being high.
Like I really, I don't know what it was when I was younger because like I had a nice upbringing to you.
My parents were great, you know?
They took me to Burger King and let me skip school sometimes.
You know, that shit was fun.
So like I had a fine upbringing, but like I just didn't like enjoy being sober.
Once I discovered getting high, I was like, dude, this is the greatest thing ever.
And I think slowly, like, the consequences of that started to build up.
And, like, you don't notice that happening when you're getting high every day.
And then eventually, when the consequences really built up, I dropped out of high school my senior year.
My mom threw me out of her house because I was just not behaving.
And I had to move in with my dad.
My parents are divorced.
And he lived in, like, a shit hole town, like, very different.
My mom, like, moved me into this small little condo in a very nice.
area to put me in that good school district my dad was in the trenches so you know i i show up to school
the first day um at my new high school for my senior year and i'm just like yo this is not my environment
like you know i don't think i need to go much in a detail why you can look at me you know be like
yeah he needs to be in a nice school you know so i show up for a couple days i go home and i tell
my dad i'm like yo dad i'm dropping out dude i'm going to work at jewel osco you know i'm going to work i'm
going to stock shelves at the grocery store dad um and he was like great sounds good you know let's drop
you out of school um and that was no no no pushback at all oh no dude I mean at that point in my
he's like oh damn we can drive to work together I can't I see it I had always it'll give you
my hours in my head he's tell me if I'm right your dad is like well if we're not going anywhere
we might as well get there now right why go to why go to high
school all year.
Yeah, no need to waste the time.
He had better things to do.
He had better things to do.
So pull me out of school.
Then he doesn't have to take me there anymore.
And, you know, I'll save some time.
So win-win for us.
Yeah, I dropped out of school.
By the time I dropped out, I'd already been to rehab once.
So, like, my parents had kind of tried to, like, straighten me out.
I never hit it.
Like, my mom would ask me, like, are you high right now?
And I'd be like, yeah.
You know, and she'd be like, what'd you take?
I'd be like, a lot, you know?
Like, just whatever.
was always very honest about it i never tried to hide it um but then i dropped out of high school and
that's when like i really started being a dgen drug addicts like i really didn't do shit all day
but like sit in my room and get high and like i didn't have a car because i crashed it i lost
my job pretty quick at jewel um i got arrested for felony retail theft i stole a bunch of games
from walmart to go sell at game stop for weed money and were you hide when you crash your car
oh yeah dude oh my god i was hammered dude i was like so i've actually i've totaled three cars in
my life uh and i'm only 26 i'm a young guy so like that's a pretty fast rate of totaling cars
um technically i've totaled five but two were not my fault zero fault accidents after i got sober
so three total card was the best possible scenario you could present oh yeah yeah yeah three total cars
was like me like downplaying like you know hey those are just my bad ones you know um my first one
I was really drunk I think I had me and my friends used to do dumb ass shit like we would steal
NyQuil from Walgreens and then pour it into beer because like it would get us more fucked up
it's like we drink half the beer and then pour a bunch of NyQuil in it and then slam that and
then like it'd make us if you fought going to sleep you'd get really fucked up so I did a bunch
of that that's crazy because I was around a lot of people doing drugs and also getting
fucked up in my mid-20s, early
20s especially. And
the thought of a friend of mine, drinking
half his bud light and being
like, dude, trust me with NyQuil,
I would be like, the fuck
is wrong with you. Like, my whole
friend group would have been like, something's wrong,
something's up. We all had
14 beers, but this is a problem.
Have you, did you ever huff gasoline?
Because that's the most DGN thing I've ever
witnessed. That is where I
drew the line. Huffing stuff is where
I drew the line. I had a bunch of friends
used to huffed uh they used to inhale like fresh whipped cream canisters behind the grocery store
to like get that little bad though that little rush nitrous oxide that was yeah that was a thing
in my brain i was like no that makes me a tweaker like you i can drink nycwill beer every day but
like the moment if i start huffing stuff i'm a tweaker i can't it wasn't even codeine it was
just nikewell yeah yeah i didn't have money for codeine that shit's expensive dude yeah coding isn't
that horrible for you absolutely well it's robo trip it i
When you mentioned the cough medicine the first time, I was like, I thought NyQuil put a bunch of
stuff in there where it's like, we'll solve this problem by killing them.
Isn't that horrible for you?
Like, I think I'm catching on to the notion that fitness isn't your top priority.
No, no, we're not.
No.
But acetaminophen in that, I think, does NyQuil have that?
It does.
It has that.
It has this thing called, I'm going to butcher the pronunciation of all these.
Gwifenison, I think.
That's the one that's supposed to make you puke.
so a lot of the manufacturers put that in to like try to stave off kids like me
but dude you fight the sleep and you fight the nausea and if you win the battle you're
going to have a sick-ass time so you know that's what we do like every other day
you're hard than the pain and you're 26 now I'm 26 now I got sober God I don't count
the days anymore but I got like California sober so that's a loose term I did that like three
years ago it's been now it was 20 yeah it was at the end of 2021
I stopped doing blow and ketamine and Xanax and all that.
But yeah, I kind of went through the whole ringer.
I smoked crack one time when I was 17.
Was it fun?
No, fuck no.
It's actually not fun.
It's infuriating, actually, is what it is.
Like, I got really, like, imagine the worst rage you've ever felt in your life,
and it lasts for about two minutes.
And then you're just like, oh, dude, like, what was I pissed about, you know?
me and my friends it did do you yeah but
what was it you were enraged over was it just any random
bro i punched my mom to him with his mouth open we were in my kitchen me and two other friends
and i had a buddy who at the time was selling blow and we had been doing a ton of coke and like
we were very tired of it you know coke's a very like repetitive drug you know it's something
that like obviously when you're out for a night drinking with your friends it's the greatest
invention ever like it's amazing but coke is a drug
it like you know you can get tired of pretty quick if you're not really hooked on it and me
and my friends were tired of it and we go over to my house after school one day and my buddy has
this big bag of blow on him and he's like dude what if we made crack like kind of jokingly he's
like dude what if we fucking make crack i'm like yeah i mean i guess like we have cocaine like
technically we could we start googling shit we end up on erud and there's this thread on
erud which airwood's like the biggest drug for i love that website shout out to erud um and there's
this thread and then we find a YouTube video from a guy this is like a decade ago now I don't
think you could ever post this but there's a YouTube video not of a guy like actually cooking it
but like text on the screen like those old school you know with the stock music and like yeah yeah
you look up an old game it's one of those star wipes teaching you how to make crack on the stove
yeah literally it was it was like the times the comic sans fun or whatever it was just a one of those
old style videos it was like a step one you you know little known fact here you can do it with just a
spoon you don't need like a whole pot you don't need like any you know the way you mentally envision
cooking crack is like that's if you're the plug you know if you're just a guy like me who just
wants to try it with your friends you should need a spoon and some baking soda and a lighter
and like that's pretty much it and water and then you just put the cocaine in the spoon with that
stuff and you yeah so so there's i don't remember the exact like ratios of what you put in
but at one point the Coke enters the spoon with the baking soda in the water
and you kind of mix it all together while you hold the lighter below it just very briefly
and you mix it until it gets cloudy it honestly kind of looks like you nutted in the spoon
like once it looks like you've nutted in the spoon it's ready to go in the freezer
so after that you pour it on a little tinfoil throwing in the freezer we let it sit
and this is not like a good like this is not like man I made some pure ass crack
this shit was horrible like it was for sure from what I've learned talking to other crack smokers
it wasn't good.
Yeah.
Well, they're notoriously not picky, though, crack smokers.
That's right.
Yeah.
They'll fired up.
I'm watching people cook crack right now on YouTube.
There's so many videos of people cooking crack.
Is there a really still?
It's like the best way to cook crack.
How many minutes was it?
Because I imagine this is like a high time preference thing.
Like when you put it on the tinfoil sheet in the freezer, was it like we got to find
something to do for 20 minutes and then I remember correctly was around 30 minutes it was about half an
hour you let it sit and then you pull it out it was more of an eyeball thing I remember we checked
on it a few times just to make sure it was solid because that was from what I remember just the
prerequisite like if there's any motion in it when you move the foil leave it in there you know
did it get you any more fucked up than if you had just done the equivalent amount of coke it was
honestly it was like as if I like the amount of coke that I would just
chop up for let's say six hours it was as if i just railed that whole pile and like it all hit
me in two minutes and left like it was not a different high than coke in any way really it was just
much more like concentrated almost you know okay but i didn't get a favorite drug coke sucks oh dude
you're lucky hate it hate it's all that post nasal drip i just get a little more anxious than my
baseline for like three minutes and all your friends are talking about how great it is
And then you have to deal with that next morning Coke thing where like if you've ever been
at a bachelor party or whatever kind of thing where a bunch of people are doing Coke at night,
when you wake up the next morning, there's always two to three people in like a group of
15 that are the actual Coke heads.
And they have like the most revisionist history the next morning of all time where they're like,
do you guys remember how all of us were doing tons of Coke?
And it's like, no, all of us did a line.
And then you guys stayed up until right now doing.
more cocaine and then you called a guy and he was in fucking Kansas City and you told him you'd
give him a $300 bonus if he drove it to the Ozarks and then you stayed up till 315 to greet
this guy take the Coke do a little bit then buy a bit more from him and then he went home like
that was that was a real bachelor party story it was the next morning they were all just bleary eyed and
everything like remember how fucked up we got and it's like dude you guys are still fucked up
You're still gacked out.
Gacked out?
What's the term?
I think that works.
That term probably works.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cocaine sucks.
Worst drug.
I just like downers.
Weed, alcohol, things that mellow you out.
You can do LSD.
LSD is so amazing.
I'm a little spooked by...
Taylor, you're coming off like a square.
I'm coming off a bit like a square, but I'm a little spooked by hallucinogens.
I did shrews once, but it was a very small amount.
I've never had a real trip.
look I think
there's that there's that whole thing about like
does everyone see the same thing when they look at the color blue
are they all seeing the same thing
and so I wonder that about all sorts of experiences
like is he feeling the same way I feel
when he smokes this marijuana pin
or what he does a bump of coke or whatever I wonder
because I've heard people describe mushrooms
as this extremely potent hallucinogen
and in my experience it's just nausea
and a little paranoia and it gave me a panic
attack one time and just not a great high like I feel light I feel a little dizzy I feel
kind of woozy I feel like I lost blood not like I'm having a good time you know but when I
took LSD it's like holy fuck I'm seeing some shit I'm actually having visual hallucinations
which is what like cartoons tell you all drugs do it the cartoon somebody drinks a beer and they're
seeing pink elephants like like dance around them if you want to see some pink elephants you need to
take some LSD you will see some shit and
And especially if you take that LSD and they combine that with an amazing setting that's already very visually stimulating, not overly stimulating where you're going to freak out, but like a beautiful sunset is incredible.
Like a full moon with like nice clouds around it.
Oh my God.
I stayed out there for hours looking at that shit.
Even artwork or like movies like Fantasia.
It's all that stuff.
Things with like really nice, like saturated colors, movies and experiences like that.
It's like visual candy.
You just want to sit there and look at the beautiful things.
How many times have you tried Coke and did you like it?
Like three times total and I've never, again, the setting is important.
So like one of the times we're like in a club in New York and there's like a bunch of beautiful
women all over us and like my buddy is a literal like millionaire supermodel so he's bringing
even more beautiful women over and he's paying for everything and we're at the
this exclusive place, getting this VIP treatment.
It's like the waitress just like palmed us like a little wrapped up wax paper thing
of Coke and we're doing it off our fists.
And it's like, this is cool.
That is cool.
I think I know that.
Is he an attorney?
Yeah, his name starts an A.
He's got a gruff voice.
Yeah, he's a very cool guy.
He's super charming.
Yeah, super charming.
Like one of his, I asked him.
I was like, so what do you do for fun?
Because we were playing paintball for fun.
He's like, oh, I like to do I race GT cars.
He's in some sort of rich people auto racing league
where they race like Lambos and Ferraris for fun against each other.
Like, that guy was a badass.
I had so much fun with him.
So that was great.
But then I've also done Coke like off the mirror of a rental house with a bunch of people
and it's like, this is not as cool.
You don't feel quite as tight doing it.
that way. You don't feel like that this isn't like Charlie Sheen Coke. This is like white trash
coke all of a sudden and it's not as cool. And I think it's the very last time I did cocaine was
probably eight, nine years ago, probably eight years ago now where I was in that apartment and sent
in downtown St. Louis. And I lived over that vodka bar. And it was like two, three in the
morning, end of the evening. Everyone had filtered out. It was over. But I was still very energized.
my buddy Casey was still very energized and by buddy I mean a guy that I only knew because he was
selling cocaine to my friends and he kept implying that like he needed a place to stay and it was
just me and him in my apartment and so like I was like all right well we can watch a movie or
something he's like I got to do something more than that and so then I taught me and Casey did
cocaine and I taught him to play Magic the Gathering and we played magic getting yacked out on
cocaine and it was a it was a terrible time like it wasn't fun he wasn't understanding it
got to be it got to be like four in the morning and the sun's coming in and I'm still really
and by the time like four in the morning came around I had been for a long time not doing any more
of his cocaine but he had been doing a tremendous amount of the cocaine and so he kept wanting to
play and I kept what I was like getting hung over at this point wanting to be like you're just
not getting it you don't even it's been three hours and you don't understand the phases of the
game like you're putting cards down randomly the last time I hung out with them shout out
I was also I was also I'm also stressed out when when there's coke being done and people are
mixing adderol with it and their heart rates are getting ridiculous and uh because it because it's like
the big fear is like one of you's going to fucking OD here like like I feel like I don't want to be here for that you know what I mean I don't smoke to and Adderall
yeah what are they like crushing up Adderall into the blow lines why would you do both because they staying up for days doing stuff you know not days maybe but staying up all night after you hadn't had much sleep and I don't want to go too much in detail about what was going on but but like just constantly leaving the activity to go to the bathroom to do more coke because just topping off topping off topping off constantly and already on
the Adderall and I remember the dudes
like iPhone or I watch
or whatever is like alerting him because his heart
rate's too high.
We're sitting there like doing
our activity chilling and his heart
rate was like no no
he had fallen asleep and it woke
him saying your heart rate's too high
it was asleep and his heart rate was like 170
or something because he's doing Adderall
and fucking cocaine yeah. Who
would mesh those together?
You know. The only
Oh, I'm sure I do.
The only thing that's guaranteed after I've done Coke at any time in my life is I immediately try to smoke a ton of weed.
Because every time I do it, there's always such a huge gap between times I do.
I had done Coke where I'm always like, my friends are so into this.
I bet it's good and you haven't got it yet.
And then you do it again.
And you're like, oh, no, this brought me back to that very anxious place.
Maybe I can smoke my way through to the other side and just get fucked up.
enough on weed that it depresses the
the Coke influence, but
damn, that
I'm very impressed.
You're 26 and you already have
seemingly more drug experience
than all of us aggregated.
Definitely.
Have you ever take, so I hear people
talk about robo-tripping, where they're drinking
so much robotussin that they're seeing,
what do they call them, the hat man or some shit?
That's Benadryl.
That's Benadryl.
Okay, okay, okay.
Have you ever done that?
Have you ever taken so?
much cough medicine that you saw a fucking hat man
fuck no it's a strange phenomenon with that one
that only like specifically only happens
with Benadryl which I think DPH is the chemical that does that in that one
all the other cold meds I've taken like
Delsim triple Cs were the big one when I was younger I think those are still
pretty popular Robo cough is like a newer one that people do
but Benadryl specifically makes you see spiders
and the hat man and like shadow people which is like
I have friends who like when I was younger
they'd be like dude come over we're going to smoke a bunch of weed
and takes Benadryl and get drunk and it's like dude like
I don't want to get scared like I would I would never go into a drug
and like go into it like dude I'm really excited to fucking get scared
and start cold sweating like that's so thrilling you know
so I always avoided Benadryl because like every person I've spoken to
that's taken it is like yeah that was the scariest experience of my life
yeah yeah yeah shit was horrible I said I'm on the
Dyson Hydramine subreddit
for a while and
so many of the top posts
would be like, why am I
addicted to this? It's not even
fun. Tort is them
like bemoaning the fact that they're
addicted to apparently the least fun
drug because it's a dissociative
and so you don't
feel like yourself, you have no sense
of presence, no sense of reality,
you don't know who you are, what you're observing
which sounds horrid
Yeah, I mean it's like
DXM, like all the robo-tripping and like, you know,
taking triple Cs or drinking Delsim or whatever is fun.
Because like for me, the reason I did it when I was younger is it's a cheaper
psychedelic, you know, I couldn't afford shrooms as much as I wanted them.
Same with acid.
But I can walk to the Walgreens on the corner by my house and load my pockets up with
cold meds.
And because I'm under 18, they'll just yell at me.
Like, I won't even get arrested, you know?
So that's what I did all the time.
I'm pretty sure I can't go back to that Walgreens, but.
You know, I don't plan to.
but that that was the main appeal for me once i got older i stopped doing that shit i call it a poverty
you know like if you're if you're experiencing poverty dxm's for you if not go buy a real drug you know
so do you know about these like seven hydroxy mitigining oh do i 7 oh my god explain that to us
seems terrible for you have any of you guys tried it
I'm afraid of it.
They have it at my best.
You shouldn't.
You shouldn't try it.
So I've actually, I've put a lot of videos talking about 7-0.
I recently, the style of my content has like kind of changed.
Just like Call a Duty, like the videos would he used to make.
I would literally do a cod gameplay.
And like, instead of, you know, talking about my kill streak or whatever, I'd be like,
yo, guys, me and my boys crack the other day.
And like, you're in my kitchen.
That's a better commentary.
What I did. I originally did like normal call duty like tips and tricks videos and I was getting no views.
I ran out of, uh, ran out of ideas. And I was like, I just started smoking. And I was like,
dude, I'm going to just talk about first time I got stoned. You know, and that's how I started making all
the drug related content. But now I kind of do like different harm reduction stuff where I try to
warn people about like what to look for when they're doing certain shit or like all the smoke shop
drugs that are out now. And like, I've eaten those smoke shop room gummies, dude. The truth about
those is those generally aren't that
harmful to your health. You know, they
have something called 4 ACO DMT
in them, which when you eat metabolizes to
the same chemical acilocybin mushroom does.
So while it's not an all natural product,
you're getting a pretty true
to form trip, right?
Not 100%, but like a pretty spot
on experience, right?
Same thing with like these, you know, weed
products, these Delta 8 products. Yeah, some of them are sketchy,
but like at the end of the day, you're not going to kill
yourself on those. You're not going to develop some
aggressive lifelong addiction.
7-0 is like you can literally walk into a smoke shop and buy a 80 milligram oxy is effectively what 7-0 is.
It is an extremely addictive opioid and it's I think one of the most disingenuous things about it is these companies market it as like a natural cratum concentrate product.
These companies are like, oh, it's just cratum.
We're in the cratim industry and like people that are, you know, vocal about supporting a ban on 7-0 or regulation on it, the vendors on the opposite side of that will then,
try to muddy the water and be like, well, you'd have to ban cratum entirely because, you know, this is literally a natural cratom product.
And 7-0 is a chemical that's found in like very trace amounts in natural leaf cratum.
And what they do is like, they're not grinding up a million grams of leaf every day to make this shit, dude.
They're synthesizing it.
You know, they're all synthesizing it.
It's very scary because one of the biggest issues with this is there's like wild inconsistencies in the doses.
There's news publications that have gone and gotten these pills tested from all these different brands.
And, like, they advertise on the box.
Each pill will have 30 milligrams, right?
One's got 60.
One's got 15.
And, like, people, you can overdose on this stuff.
It takes a lot.
It's not quite the same as overdosing on, like, bent or overdosing on, like, maybe an oxy or a percocet.
It does take more, you know, dosage-wise generally.
But when you don't know the exact dose of what you're taking, like, it's a lot easier to do that, you know?
Is this at every head shop?
For sure, dude.
All of them, bro.
Even some of my like favorite shops I've been going to out here in California that previously were like only selling glass, like really into selling like fine like collectible bongs and shit that are thousands of dollars are now selling this shit behind the counter.
And what's really crazy about it, dude, so I'm going to show you guys a picture real quick.
Kind of like link this in chat or something or how would I do that?
Yeah, throw it in chat.
Just type of like your chat and Zach will show it.
Zach will show it.
Okay.
Let me show you guys some of the fucking brands.
that like are in this this industry um when i asked the guy at the smoke shop about it who's like
a bro like like he's easy like yeah this tcp is this much stronger the t hc a and it's it'll get
you this kind of high and he's like i smoke the like he he loves to get stoned but when i ask me
about that stuff he's like yeah that's a yeah you look at that packaging bro like tell me what
that's trying to look like that's not like trying to you know a lot of these companies they
advertise these products is like dude
this is a harm reduction recovery thing for opiate addicts people who are trying to quit heroin or fent
are going to buy this and it's safer bro they're calling them roxies dude oh my god they're calling them
what is a what what is a roxy oh because of a real that's an opi it's a real oxy it's a legitimate
they're naming these they have this brand i just linked they're literally called perks on the first
one you're like hey tell me what that looks like and i i think i just don't know what i'm talking about
Looks like a perk-a-sat.
Oh, okay.
It very much looks like a perk-a-sat.
And there's actually, the brand I just linked, they name their product perks.
Like, it literally just says a giant text on the front, Perk, which is one of the most popular opiate drugs you can buy on the market.
Oh, same link to the second one, my bad.
I put the wrong link.
Hold on.
Here we go.
Yeah, it's super sketchy.
Whenever I've asked like a vape guy about it, they're always like, yeah, I don't do that.
I have tried that.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to fucking storm that beach.
They look sketchy as hell.
And I don't want that.
Like, I like opiates.
Like whenever I've had codeine or just like opiates for surgery, I like them.
So I definitely don't need a vape cartridge.
Can you pull that back up?
My issue with it is that it doesn't look sketchy.
Like, they look like pills, but the packaging looks like a breath mint to me.
It's a blue raze flavor.
Isn't that sketchy, dude?
Like, if this is dangerous, it doesn't look.
dangerous. It should have a big mooring on it. It should tell you it's addictive. It should
like. It's unregulated though. So they can do whatever they want. They can they could make it
into like anything they want. It's at 21 and over, but I think that's a suggestion.
Caution extremely potent is a sales point. Like, it might as well say caution really good.
Yep. 100%. You know, I, uh, I've made the series of videos talking about 7-0 in particular.
I've basically all the products in the smoke shop
I've tried on camera for videos like some of the
sketchiest shit you can order carts on
TikTok shop with no age verification
I bought a bunch of those and smoked them
but this is by far the worst thing I've ever tried
it's horrible dude
what's the highlight can you
literally pronounce what I'm sorry
you got hit with two questions at once
you're calling it 7-0 it says
7-hydroxy mitrogynine
do you know what that says 7 hydroxy
matragenene, I think is the like way to say that.
The seven hydroxy is like the off spin of the chemical mitragenine, which is a natural,
like that's what gets you high in leaf cratum.
That's what's normally found in there.
The seven hydroxy, I think a good way to compare it like chemically is a lot of these like Delta
8 edibles that you find maybe at a gas station or something.
Delta 8 is naturally found in the cannabis plant.
It is in trace amounts, but like these guys aren't extracting thousands.
of grams of flour to get it dude they're synthesizing it the same way they're doing with the
7-0 stuff um and it creates a very disf oh no we may have lost a cobblum very temporary he was on a roll
hello yeah oh there we go i don't know what happened my whole page just refreshed it
i don't know uh what happened it's good now but where did it like cut me off a few seconds in
yeah like six seconds ago okay um but either way the the issue with like products like seven oh
and like delta eight you know the sketchy synthesized delta eight edibles that are you know
parading is natural is they're hiding behind the actual natural products that like aren't bad
for the market and making the they're poisoning the whole market they're making everything look bad
you know so like i have a lot of friends who quit opiates by taking leaf cratum and
while leaf cratum isn't a perfect solution it is by definition
harm reduction you know you don't really overdose on leaf cratum without taking extreme
extreme amounts of it i'm talking like a lot like an amount that i can't hold in my hands at one
time right an insane amount of leaf cratum um you know people are are quitting opiates using those
products but these products are going to get potentially get leaf cratom band as well which then
leaves recovering opiate addicts with basically suboxone and methadone which are way worse options
in my opinion.
And it's a, you know,
it's a very screwed up market.
But either way, the other part I was talking about
with the,
what was your question again, Kyle?
Oh, fuck.
That refresh fucked us all up, dude.
Yeah, I don't know.
But yeah, this is the worst thing
in the smoke shop right now, for sure.
Yeah, it's got to be.
I would be in those mushrooms.
To get into that stuff.
I'm not going to
speak widely for every product on the market, because I think in general, if you're walking
to a smoke shop and buying something that you want to get you high, you're playing a losing
game. Like the majority of the time, you're going to get something that is at best, kind of
sketchy, and at worst, not at all what you thought you're paid for. And with the shroom products,
you know, at the worst, you're eating for ACO DMT, which is a research chemical that is currently
like kind of a gray area thing you know like it's not illegal whether or not it should be is up for
debate but like looking at what other things the government has scheduled it probably should be up
there um and it produces pretty much the same thing as a natural shroom chip like it's really not
far off you know so i when i went into trying the smoke shop prune shroom products i went in with
the pretty like negative mindset preemptively i was like dude these gonna be fucked and i tried a couple
that were like definitely not even for a cot mt like there were some other like sketchy
you know but the ones that uh specifically if you want to find one that is this this chemical i'm
talking about it's not the ones that say they're lions main and and rishi on the back that
combination those like mental clarity shrooms it's specifically the ones that are like
trying to look like shrooms i try to brand in a video which i i won't name here because you know
they don't need the free promotion but i try to brand it one of my videos and uh i was like i tried
it right before a flight i was in north carolina i had filmed a podcast and i was what a good idea
place. Yeah, I know. Brilliant, right?
Why do you, men?
I mean, I was on a tight schedule that week, dude. I was, the video was like, fair enough.
You're a consummate professional.
I do. Dude, I have to have to lock in, you know, maintain my schedule. I mean, you guys run a pod here.
You guys know how it goes, but, you know, I was originally planning to upload the video a few
days prior and just didn't get the chance to get it out. So I was like, fuck it. I'm going to
bring this bag with me and just record it in North Carolina after I film with this other guy.
and I do the podcast with him
next day getting ready for my flight
I'm like shit I still haven't taken those gummies yet
I take a couple of them
I'm thinking like dude these aren't going to hit me at all
dude these are some smoke shop ass gummies
that bag I actually bought off Amazon
which makes it even crazier
because yeah you can just buy them on Amazon
and I took a couple
and I go to this restaurant this barbecue place
for lunch with my you know my buddy
and I'm standing in line and I'm looking out the window
and I just kind of realized
eyes for a couple seconds. I'm like, yo, I'm fucking
tripping right now.
Like, and this is a very familiar
feeling. Like, this wasn't like,
dude, what drug am I on? It felt like I took a small
dose of shrooms.
And that, like, stunned
me, you know? I was sitting there like,
I can't believe that shit is legal.
Like, I'm happy it is. I think
psilocybin mushroom should be legal to begin with,
but like, God, that shocked me.
Do you have any
experience with DMT? Because that's the one
I really want to do. After my experience with
with LSD um and i know all right so first of all my understanding is there's kind of two different
kinds of DMT um there's the one that's kind of similar to or analogous to that like toad venom
that's like a white out where you disassociate and you become like i don't know like like just a
point and a void and uh i saw a video of a guy doing it he's rolling around in a creek bed saying
i love you i love you i love you i love you i don't want that that sounds awful but
There's another, the other kind of DMT that I've seen people with vape carts for.
And we actually had a guy, we do this hang out with fans every month.
And there's like 20 guys in a video call with us.
And one of them was vaping DMT.
And he was going on this, this wild trip.
And I was trying to guide him through his trip, like give him, like suggestions.
And he was seeing the things I was telling him.
I was like, there's a waterfall of gold rolling over.
And he's just like, he's like, I see.
it. And that seems, and I also hear people talking about meeting the machine elves, and I want to meet the machine elves so goddamn bad, because I have, I've heard people theorize that when you take DMT, that you are, um, you are transcending, your mind, your soul, whatever there is inside of us that isn't biological and made of matter is transcending to this other dimension maybe. And you're seeing something else. You go, you're seeing some.
some interdimensional traveling beings which are the machine elves and i want to do this experiment
where we like we get someone who has no concept of the machine elves and we give them the drug
and we see if they see the machine elves because everyone says they see them but it's like well
were you expecting to see them because if i did dmte i'd be like oh i went that's who i was going to
meet like i wanted a little a little predictive programming but if we put some dmt and some bananas
And then we toss them on the beach on that North Sentinelese Island
And those jokers sees machine elves
Then there's a get I believe there's machine elves at that point
How are we gonna ask them? Yeah, well we'll torture out of them
We'll torture we'll have to keep English after the fact
What do they know like like
It's like a gobbledygook?
Yeah they've made up fucking oh yeah they had like a tribal language that
Even the islanders we'll figure it out through the burbles and cliques
They tried to get like some natives who live on an island somewhere
where in that region also who are contacted to talk to them and there was the language gap was
it didn't work and they didn't understand them and they and neither be the party get understanding
but my question what i wanted to get to was like have you done DMT do you have DMT experience
what are your thoughts on the machine else so i have not done DMT i have purposefully avoided that
one um there's a few reasons for it i think my reasoning for avoiding DMT changes you know and
ironically as much as I've taken acid and shrooms I mean I've I've tripped hundreds of times across both of those drugs in a way I'm definitely scared of DMT a little bit you know like that one intimidates me you know when I do drugs I generally like being grounded like I like still kind of understanding where I am for the most part and like when I take acid or when I take streams and I take a high dose of those and have one of those trips where I get sucked out of the room like I don't enjoy those kind of feelings you know I'm the kind of guy who like
When I would take acid, I would take like two or three tabs and parachute throughout the night just to keep the, like I'd hit my peak and be like, all right, let's redos right now.
And like then I'll be peeking for three hours straight.
Is that parachute like you take another little tab?
Yeah.
So parachuting is like instead of taking all three my tabs at once, I'll pop my first one, wait two, three hours, then pop my next one and, you know, do the same thing until all my tabs are gone.
And I've stayed up for like days doing that.
I've stayed up.
I've done that a lot.
dude it's fun i remember a little off but you're afraid of dmt like like yes see i want exactly
what you don't want like yes my lsd experience i took like five tabs maybe like took one and waited
40 minutes and i was like this is the best feeling ever i'm seeing a little things are wiggling
40 minutes was not long enough maybe not but but i was like this feels amazing there's i was
i'm always afraid of nausea when i take a drug like i hate that i hate throwing up i don't want that
involved my drug at all much for them do that to me no nausea i feel
great. Things are wiggly. I feel
like joyous and giggly and happy and
purely positive. Give me more.
Give me the rest of them tabs. We know we're good now.
And then just started like four or five
of them or something like that until like
shit was moving. And I loved
that. But again, I felt very grounded.
I felt like I could at any time
like if an adult had shown up
although I know, this is a couple years ago.
You were like a 307.
You know what I mean though? Like a real
adult. The good thing I wasn't there.
Woody would have got you in trouble
I would have a normal conversation
that someone probably wouldn't know
I was high unless they looked at my fucking
googly eyes but what I want
is to fucking break on
through to the other side
all right? I want to open the door
I want to go I want
I want to open the door and then get sucked
through it like a fucking pressure
change like those
those guy those oil those
those saturation divers they
got pulled through that pipe. I want to get sucked in and have no control and for the experience
to just happen to me. I don't want to be like rafting down a river of of highness. I want to be
falling down a waterfall of it. Like I want to be consumed by it. So that DMT is such a,
I want that. So when you're doing those drugs, you're looking for sort of like a Titan submersible
event. Yes. It explodes and you're through the looking glass. I think you're dead.
lose concept of time. That sounds stressful to me. Yeah, I bet it would be stressful. I'm open to
that. I want to go in there and I want to see things that aren't there. And I don't mean,
so LSD is augmented reality in my experience. It's, we're still in this room, but this room is a
little different to me. For sure. But DMT, I think, might be virtual reality. I think I leave
this room and I'm now in the room that the drug has taken me to in combination with wherever my
mind is wandering and whoever of my personality and whoever who knows what else maybe another
fucking dimension i don't know i've never done it that's spot on i want to honestly spot on
i want to go buy into that reality to virtual reality i don't buy into that because got what do you
go ahead i have been floating down a river made of syrup in the dark um ketamine will get you
there uh yeah you got to go pretty deep in the khole you got to lose your limbs you know to really
okay well like with i i am interested in ketamine it's like a grand i think to like get the experience
you did right uh yeah i want to say it was 1,200 but it was six times yeah okay yeah
that's what he did like one of those legal prescribed oh my god i wanted to do that shit
for so long what do you liked it how was it wait i need to hear this story uh i've told it here a couple
time so you can give me a quick run down you know you have to board people yeah I was kind of sad at the
time and it was like sold as this like sort of ketamine therapy and okay it was perfect for me
I'm not as experienced as you with drugs so the first time they send you a first class like
blindfold blood pressure thing a nurse sort of make sure that you're okay to do this before you do
it they teach you how which I didn't know like it it's a pill that I would have swallowed you don't
do that you like slush it around in your mouth for seven minutes they give you an audio track to
listen to which was i thought was pretty cool it's binurnal music i might have mispronized that oh thank you
and uh the first seven minutes is kind of like a motivational speech almost that also helps you
time when to spit out this pharmacy tasting saliva that you're building up and uh and if you're
like me to get a little bold you're like i that was seven minutes
but we go for extra around here.
And then you spit that out.
I swallowed my.
That'll make you sick.
Oh, by the way, it comes with antinagia meds too.
So you take that an hour before the ketamine so that you don't have any nausea.
And I took it the first time and it hit me.
But I told him, I was like, you know, like it's almost like you have three beers and you're like acting super drunk with your friends.
but if your parents walk in, you could suppress it.
And I was like, that's not what I'm going for.
And she's like, I got you.
And they more than doubled the dose.
And then I wrote a river of warm syrup thinking of my place in the universe.
And afterwards, I would journal it and sort of work out my thoughts.
Because I was in there, like, I was working it.
I wasn't just trying to have a recreational good time.
I was trying to figure out things that were important to me.
And I sort of hit my bullseye with these things.
Even now, sometimes look at my journal entries, just that the simple things I figured out,
the things I figured out are the normal me, the me right now, figure something out.
And then second guesses it, pokes holes in it, et cetera.
That's not the k-hole me.
The k-hole me, every idea I have is right on the money.
I figured it out.
And when you remove all that sort of second-guessing and doubt and, I don't know,
proofreading you could even call your thought.
then he can land on some good ones that do stand up on their own.
So it was a really good experience.
I've talked here a couple times about ego death that I had.
And a lot of people find this idea that you are an insignificant spec in the universe to be a depressing one.
They want to be something important.
I found it to be a load off my shoulders.
Like, oh, man, when you're not really simplify it, all I got to do is keep these people like warm, fed, and clothed.
And that's it.
like this is this is something that i can accomplish like when you boil it down to what really
needs to get done it's not that bad and um it just helped me reprioritize have a little
perspective and find some joy so it was a win for me when you went into it yeah i've always
been very curious about doing that the guy that gave me my medical card back when i lived in
Illinois. He started this like ketamine therapy service and he email blasted everybody. And I got
one. It was like, hey, like he was a very sketchy doctor. So I don't think it would have been as like
legit as what you're describing. But, you know, he was like, hey, got a spot in Chicago.
Ketamine therapy license now. Come by. You know, first one's free. You know, that sounded a enticing
to me. But I never went through with it because I don't know. I'd done so much, you know,
recreational snort a bump off the table kind of ketamine that the IV stuff I was like huh that sounds
expensive so this was uh what other medicines do you take that like dissolve under your tongue
sublingual sublingual yeah the nausea shit I don't yeah yeah the nausea one was like that and
but this was sublingual and uh it you're almost powering to make it to seven minutes and then
you know little extra is just for me it's it's not a good taste oh and then like dude their
coaching was something that I really,
really needed because I didn't know what I was doing.
They're like,
put a tasty drink,
have a little like spit cup.
You know,
so you spit it out.
I chased it with,
ginger,
no,
um,
like cranberry juice or something like that.
And,
uh,
and then you put on the blindfold.
You've got your headphones.
The music is playing.
And you just trip and think and reflect,
which,
which is what I was going for.
And then after one,
journaled it.
Like,
So how long is it?
I would say if you're on the saliva for seven minutes,
by the end of that,
it's starting.
It's peaking at like 30.
And then at like 45, 50 minutes,
you're like,
okay,
not that I should be driving,
but I could walk on the steps.
Okay.
Yeah.
Interesting.
When you went into the ketamine thing,
did you
was it like a general feeling of malays
again and I can't see Taylor anymore
oh maybe refresh
you'll come right back okay all right I'll be right back
so Taylor was it a general feeling of
malaise or was it like a couple
individual things where like I got to sort through
this this this oh what motivated me to take it
yeah I think I suffered some winters
from the seasonal effect disorder that it's sad
and I'm just like a little bit depressed
I don't mean to not like suicidal depressed, but just like, man, what's the point?
What am I doing?
Like everything's work, nothing's fun.
So it was generalist.
It wasn't like, this is bothering me.
I want to take this to solve this.
It was like, I'm just, I'm in the dumps.
I'm in the doldrums.
I got to pull myself out.
That's probably more accurate. Yeah.
That's fair.
Interesting.
But being in the dumps, being in the doldrums, I feel like it makes me a worse version of me for
everyone that like depends on me and uh so i kind of had like that aspect targeted to like you know
how can't be better for jacky how can it be better for colin etc yeah that makes sense uh goblin what is the
what's the worst drug experience you've ever had oh man if any you guys ever had a bad acid
trip i've never done acid i'm a little spooked by it so what led to it was it the setting
Um, no, I think it definitely wasn't the setting, actually.
I think it was a combination of factors.
So I've had two bad acid trips, but I don't really count one of them as a bad acid trip because I took fake tabs and overdosed on them.
So it was a bad trip on a different drug.
Um, a lot of fake acid tabs are this chemical called 25I, which is like a very cheap synthetic.
Um, and you know if you got it because the tabs taste bitter.
and I took a tab and I tasted it a little bit
but like I didn't think anything of it
I was like oh dude my homie's probably got grimy ass hands
you know he handed me the tab I mean whatever
the guy needs to wash his fucking hands
took the first one
didn't feel anything
I you know like 40 minutes later I was like
dude give me some more you know
these kind of suck ended up tweaking out
calling my mom making no sense
I'm making such little sense on the phone
she calls 911 one on me which thank God
because I then had a cardiac arrest like an hour later.
They're like originally just trying to like talking to me like,
yo, what's going on?
I started having a cardiac arrest.
But that was like, I don't count that as a bad trip because I took the wrong drug.
Like I didn't hold that against acid.
Oh, it was horrible, dude.
I mean, I was like.
Yeah, but you don't blame the acid for that because it wasn't.
Was it a drug dealer you didn't know?
My buddy.
So all my friends used to get shit off the deep web because it was kind of hard to find like a reliable plug for anything.
outside of like weed you know we just we were a bunch of high school kids we didn't know enough
people to you know go get a bag you know or anything like that so we were on like alpha bay and
like hansa and all those old websites back in the day buying shit with bitcoin and like pgp
encrypting our addresses and shit we were we were doing all that stupid stuff um and one of my buddies
had gotten some tabs from a guy that he never bought them from before off some one of those deep
websites and uh that's probably what caused it i mean he just didn't have you know good
luck, I guess, luck of the draw. You know, it's always a gamble when you're ordering off a complete
anonymous stranger online with Bitcoin. There's no recourse for that. But, you know, that, that was
whatever. The time that I had an actual bad trip on legit acid was years later. It was actually
back in like spring of 2022, if I remember correctly. It was like March of 22 and I was with my
girl and we were in Chicago, kind of on like a little, you know, took her on a trip back to Chicago,
you know see my family that kind of thing um
and we're in the hotel we're staying at the lows in downtown chicago
just like a super fucking nice hotel it was really we've got a good deal on it price line gold
member you know great price beautiful hotel um and i had i brought these tabs with me that i
ordered once again off the deep web and um i didn't stop doing this until a few years ago
and i realized like i should probably stop ordering shit to my fucking house you know um
But I brought these tabs with me, and it was just the common mistake.
Everybody does it.
You know, these, exactly, exactly, you know.
But it's just the, it was the, I made the common mistake of like, you know, these tabs aren't hitting, dude, let's take more.
We both dose and I started off with, I don't remember if it was a full tab or a half tab.
I was going really light because I had barely taken acid at this point, you know, like regularly.
I had long stopped my regular consumption.
The cardiac arrest was actually what made me stop for years.
I didn't pick up acid again for like four years after that.
Yeah, that's scary.
Yeah, yeah.
The cardiac arrest when you're like 20.
How old were you when you went into that?
I was, oh my God, how old was I?
Dude, I just dropped out of high school.
So I was like freshly 17.
That's insane.
You had cardiac arrest because of drugs at 17.
Yeah.
And what sucked more about that is because I was a minor and I had gone in for a drug overdose.
I had then woken up in the hospital.
Mind you, as I'm still tripping on this synthetic, they have me strapped down to the bed and they turned all the lights off and like left the room after they stabilized me.
So like, I'm sitting there tweaking all night long, strapped to the bed off, fake acid.
And finally the morning comes around and I'm like still tripping out, but I'm coherent enough for my parents to like speak to me.
And my mom comes in.
I'm like, so mom, like, when am I going home?
And she's kind of like beating around the bush.
She's like, I don't really, I don't know.
I got to talk to your father.
and, like, there's some people here that want to talk to you and stuff.
They got me admitted into the psych ward, which they was just a general, like,
even if you overdose on drugs, they're putting you in the same room as like the schizo guy, right?
When you're a minor.
I was under 18, so, like, I didn't get my own drug ward there.
It was like, no, I'm going in the psych section with like all the minors, you know, no, no separation.
I go in there for an evaluation because they have to get like one of those counselors to, like,
determine whether or not I belong in a facility.
because also mind you at this point I'm on felony probation so like this overdose was in itself a violation so my parents wanted me to go to rehab a as a last shot at getting sober and B to keep me out of violating probation and then getting fucked for that so because of that overdose I ended up going to a residential facility in Minnesota for two months I spent two months in treatment up there then I got out and I had to do another four weeks of outpatient and then I had to do a year probation my shit got extended all because of that
that one overdose.
Still not as bad as the real acid bad trip, though.
100%.
Still not as bad.
That's so much nonsense to go through.
How much assets did you take when you had the bad trip,
the real acid, bad trip?
In total, I think it was like two and a half tabs,
if I remember correctly.
It was much of all, dude.
It was, I think, just some really good, like, clean shit.
It was from someone I'd never grabbed from before.
So it was like, it just must have been some fire.
I mean, I knew immediately it taps tasted like nothing.
And it was a real acid trip.
It felt very familiar to me, but it was just, I think what really hit is, like, it came on too strong.
My girl, way less experienced in me.
So she starts freaking the fuck out.
Like, she's like, yeah, like, she literally walked up to me and she's like, am I okay?
And I'm like, that's the worst thing you could have fucking said to me, like, as I just started tripping a little bit.
So I walk in the bathroom and I'm like, dude, am I, like, am I okay?
dude and immediately it just hits me like a truck dude everything starts moving i looked in the mirror
which like you should never do when you're tripping and i got stuck there for a while i do all that
i dare i dare things to go you shouldn't look in the mirror when you're tripping is that a thing
no no you'll get lost in it dude you'll start staring at yourself for too long start tweaking i don't
know it's just i think that's more of like uh uh folklore kind of thing like i don't think that
necessarily applies to everybody but for me that day it happened
you know and obviously i'd done it a million times before and had no problem i was tripping but
this day was different dude you know i still to this day i don't really know why but after i came
back out to the bathroom dude my girl's like freaking out super paranoid i remember i wanted to go out
to the balcony to get some fresh air we're super high up on like the 20-something floor and she like grabs
me she's like no don't jump i'm like what do you like what do you mean yeah i'm just trying to go
get some fresh air she's like freaking out like having a fall on like panic attack she's like no like
let's just sit down she's like hyperventilating and shit i'm starting to freak out now because
she's freaking out with me i'm like dude i've never had to deal with this before like every
time i've taken ass with my friends like normally they handle it like it's fine i've never
dealt with this before so i you know instead of being able to handle it i kind of start
freaking out a little bit too and i'm like oh shit dude i don't think i wasn't about to do a flip
off the balcony was i like what do you mean like oh it's your acid trip this is yeah yeah i mean
it was a bad setting yeah i was a bad setting yeah
I guess I didn't think of it like that, but yeah, bad setting, bad company may be that day.
Yeah, yeah.
When we were doing acid, everybody was having such a fantastic time.
And then to call him a lightweight is just being honest because he's a little man.
Like he probably like, dirty.
Yeah, yeah.
Like most of us are like, I don't know, 180 to 220 or something like that.
And he's probably like 150 or something like.
I don't mean us here.
I mean like in that group that was doing drugs.
And he's like 150 pounds doing roughly.
the same dose as us and we're watching Fantasia and I was I'm still a little mad at him
because he's on the ground like throwing a fit and it's just like dude shut up and watch the
fucking movie and look at the colors stop me a little bitch boy and he's he's laying on the
floor like not actually freaking freaking out but kind of freaking out like he's he's making a lot he's
complaining a lot that I don't I think it was uh it was the part where like the mop buckets are like
dumping over and over or like
the ocean keeps filling them up or something like that
and the music's building and there's a little bit of anxiety
to it. We're all grown-ass men sitting
in a room doing drugs. And one of the grown-ass men
is like, turn it off, the colors. And it's like,
why are you ruining this for everyone else?
I'm still a little bit mad about that.
But to be fair, he is just a smaller person. Maybe he was
feeling and seeing stuff that I just wasn't.
He's a little fella.
He's like five four.
He's like really expressive too.
Like I feel like it might be a multiplier on your personality.
Maybe.
Yeah, yeah, maybe.
But then we took way more than him too.
Like me and the other guy, I don't like to use names.
Me and the other guy took like five tabs or something like that.
Like we were, we were breaking on through a little bit and he'd only taken like two
or three or something.
There is another drug phenomenon where I hate to say it.
But the people I've spoken to in my life who have the worst dumbest ideas about everything are really, really into psychedelics.
Like they have like fantastical, silly ideas about everything.
Like, why is money even a thing, man?
And it's like that there's no consideration of first, second, third order effects, nothing whatsoever.
These people are retarded.
Oh, yeah.
There is a thing there where people who do too many hallucinogens.
start philosophize become retarded.
I told you about my friend who did ayahuasca.
He made,
he was ready to make some life changes.
He was going to sell his dirt bike
because the squirrels were being disturbed
by his activities.
We're like,
how don't you just wait two weeks before?
Give it a pregnant pause here, champ.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, you know, if the squirrels don't like the noise,
they're free to go anywhere.
There's only a couple trails in this vast,
like forest of hills and he did wait two weeks and decided to keep it smart yeah he
came back down and realized it's the wildest freaking idea that i've ever heard like yeah i'm
being inconsiderate to squirrels i've talked to at least two people on high doses of mushrooms on
two different occasions where they're both like bemoaning the existence of money but there's no
inquisition about the concept of value it's just them basically being like dude everybody should
have whatever they need dude we have enough and it's like just just vague references to nonsense and
that that is something i really do believe you become a complete moron off acid so rapidly it's crazy
i mean i think you know specifically with psychedelics it's like the ultimate disconnect from reality
So, like, people who just sit there and fry their brains haunted every day, yeah, I have a ton of friends who did that, you know, I have a couple buddies who, like, the way we all used to sit around five days a week, taking tabs or taking shrooms or whatever we could get, you know, some guys never stop that. And those are the most retarded people I know now, you know, like it's, it's 100% a real thing. Yeah, I just think it's because of the disconnect from reality, you know, like we can't all live in a in a commune and, you know, dance. Like, we got to pay my taxes, bro.
Bill's must be paid
Things must be taken into account
We have to count things
We have to analyze things
But a lot of these
Shrooms LSD guys just don't get that
Or it poisons them too far in one direction
I don't think I'd say like a lot of those guys
But I think that drug
Specifically produces the most of that kind of person
Like I'd say overall like
Secondalic users anyone who takes that shit every day
is going to melt their fucking brains, dude.
Like that's, for over years, if you're someone who's tripping every day, dude, like,
even the high functioning guys I know that, you know, eat acid five, six days a week to this day,
they're just almost perma tripping, like, they're not, six days a week?
Dude, I mean, especially here in California, shrooms are a very, like, specifically shrooms, less so acid,
shrooms are a very, like, dude, you go to the parties out here and you'll meet these hippie-ass dudes
who they're like, they haven't stopped.
Stop tripping.
They're like, yeah, I microdose every day.
What's your micro dose?
Two and a half grams.
Like, all right, dude, you're just tripping.
Like, that's not a microdose.
They're just tripping all day every day.
Yeah, yeah.
For 35 years.
Yeah, I mean, these guys are like living their lives.
Do they're driving cars and shit?
Going to parties, like getting around the city.
Like, these aren't, well, some of these aren't people that are just sitting there in
the living room melting their brains all day.
They're out doing stuff.
But like, yeah, I think psychedelics generally do produce the most of
that kind of person you know all the coke heads i know like that's my fuckers go to work dude
coke's not cheat like you kind of get your shit done dude yeah dude the worst you have to deal with
being around coke heads when you're not doing any cocaine is just enduring the business ideas
and the fact that they say things all the time like man they'll like grab you on your shoulder
and some other guy and they're like man what are the chances that the the the coolest best
people in the world are here right now at this party and like they're zero things zero
complete hokom complete nonsense but they're so overly invested i hate that quite literally around drunk
people i'm on my third year they're lc fees that are based on the the yearly registration
fees uh that are based on an idea that me and my friends had while we were hammered and coked up
in Vegas like three four years ago we're still paying the fees because we're like one day we're
going to do it, guys.
We're going to make it happen.
And we're not, we're never going to make it happen.
Yeah, one day we're going to put pen to paper on this.
Before the year ends, we'll get drunk again and probably reignite the passion.
Be like, boys, I swear, we're calling the Chinese factory.
Like, it's it.
What is a sign for you as someone who's an expert in this of a person being way too
into a drug, whether it's weed or hallucinogens?
like what do you look for because you're all about harm reduction i mean i think like
it's really when it starts to impact their daily life like if someone isn't like doing like
you know you got a homing who like he's holding the good job let's say or you know making some good
money they have a consistent schedule where like they're committed to doing something maybe
they go to the gym a lot or like they're just committed to something if they stop doing that
to get high if they stop doing that in general it's probably fair to assume it might be because
they're starting to get high more on whatever they may
it may be doing and for me
that happened with me all the time
you know i mean that's that's something that like i
experience so it's really like
in my opinion i think drug use like
dude drugs are fun people don't do drugs because they suck
that shit is great fun you know drugs are a great time
and if you're able to get as high
as you can possibly be and still
get all your duties done in life like
no matter how often you do it good for you man you know i
personally don't even think that's a problem if there's some guy who's doing blow every single
night when he gets home from work and just raging till 3 a m and waking up the next day and doing
it again as long as that guy's getting his shit done and like his family fed and everything
dude more power to you you know like that's awesome but when that guy stops going to work and
and you know cleaning up every day and paying the bills and taking care of what he needs to like
that's when it's like yo this is a real problem sure okay that checks out
I mean, I think, like, you know, I have a ton of friends who are, you know, what I would call functional drug addicts in the sense of like, do, these guys rage every single day, you know, maybe not seven days a week, stay enough to 4 a.m.
But, I mean, it's a lifestyle.
Like, these guys are drunk.
Most people are ridiculous to something where that, whether it's caffeine or nicotine or just, I bet there's something that you'd do with your daily life.
I mean, yeah, like, like, like, internet, video games.
Yeah, screens.
Like, like, you might.
There's plenty of people like, I'm not addicted to anything.
Take it, put your phone away.
Turn your phone off.
Every one is addicted to something.
Yeah.
Like, if I turn my phone off for three hours, I'd be like, God, I wonder what's going on over
there.
What's going on?
What's happening on Twitter right now?
What are all the newest posts from around the world saying?
It's going to be slop.
It's going to be trash.
It's going to be nonsense when you do open it up.
Like, I might have missed something.
It's going to be some, it's going to be, uh, which just got uncovered where Elon was like,
we're going to let everybody see where you're posting from and there I saw an account first of all
the hardest hit community by that is the manosphere the like the like red pill this is how
you act around women yeah yeah chad art of you know manhood style shit because every single one of
those accounts is indian yeah every single one a lot of the like america first accounts do dude
Dude, there's so many people are getting exposed, and I've been enjoying that, but I saw one account, and it was like the, you know, peak manhood or something, and it was a picture of some, like, white guy with like a Nazi haircut looking jacked in the profile picture.
And then he posted right after this reveal came, he had a list where he's like, these are the most attractive men from every country ranked.
and number one was India
and number two was the United States
and then it was a ton of European white countries
but India was on the top
and so everyone immediately was like
you're clearly like
posting this from New Delhi
dude he's like you'll continue
there so I love America
and then you just go to his account
you see it dude the manosphere devastated
love to see that also
a billion accounts
whose entire MO is like
America stands with Israel
no matter what we fight
it's all India
because they hate Pakistan so much
that they will ally with anyone
who dislikes Muslims
and so you see all that nonsense
it's very very fun I think Elon did that
I think a big part of it is no they're being paid
by Twitter that's why they
this huge font they don't even
need a firm somewhere
or some NGO to pay them. It's some
guy in India getting paid on posts.
Even if he makes
$1,800 a month,
where does that put him in
India? Fucking a king, basically.
No, really.
That's what they do.
1800's a lot for Twitter
revenue, dude. That's
killing it on Twitter.
Some of these guys get hundreds of
millions of impressions from this
red pill horse shit. Oh, they're making
making millions of rupees, dude.
No, that was weird
because there was a couple of U.S. government
official Twitter accounts
that were ran out of Tel Aviv
and like
then like... Is that real though?
Like, did they shut it down?
And then not only was it real
after the fact like, maybe
it was the Homeland Security Twitter
or something like that. They started like mocking
the very eye. We've always
been based in the U.S.
Oh, ignore the...
Your lying eyes are deceiving you.
And it's like, dude, I'm looking at it.
It says it right here that you're in Tel Aviv right now.
I don't know what to think anymore.
I think we may be in a, I think we may live in a puppet government or something like that.
And Bibi Netanyahu's the one with the hand up the socks ass.
Seems likely.
Yeah.
But that has been fun.
I've enjoyed seeing that collapse.
You're right.
It definitely hit like the right manosphere, red-pilled, like the Murrica, the Murrica, people.
people really got hit hard.
The Israel fetishists got obliterated from this.
It's accounts that have like a bald eagle holding dual wielding machine guns while like
American flags are flying in the background.
And it's like Nigeria.
There's like tons and tons of that.
But I bet if you like really look into it like there's a lot of just like fomenting nonsense
and and and sort of splitting Americans apart and then and pitting them.
against one another by foreign adversaries.
There's tons of that as well.
I sent you the link of that Kenyan guy, that screenshot.
His Twitter account was proud, proud Democrat and professional Maga Hunter.
And he's from Kenya.
And all of his posts before this got revealed were like, here in New Jersey, we are not happy with Donald Trump.
And so it was just complete made up horses.
that he was stacking because I bet that payout is pretty significant in Nigeria.
Like he's he's hunting that $800 payout or whatever.
If I was a young Nigerian man, I would be running like 20 of those accounts.
Dude, imagine you could just make killer money just like causing discourse in a foreign country.
And like there's no repercussions.
Like, dude, I'm in.
And they love scams.
Like Nigerians already, they've evolved to love scams.
Like they, you give them a chance.
to scam someone, they're going to do it.
And so they're just out there posting being like,
if you do not vote for Kamala, you are an evil person.
And then this guy gets caught.
Or also the Indian side will be, yeah, yeah, the right guys.
That's huge.
Oh, I wasn't trying to say it was just the, because there are a ton where it's like,
hey, I am number one, I am number one patriot in America.
And Israel and America were standing.
I'm strong forever.
And then it's like an AI picture of a dragon with like Israel's flag on it,
holding hands with like an AI picture of an eagle with America's flag on it.
And then a bunch of other bots are like, so based.
That's literally all that it is.
We're just, we're being manipulated from all sides.
We need a feature.
I texted you this the other day, Kyle.
We need a feature on social media, regardless of platform that lets me block
every single account from Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh, more than anything, because it's totally
fake. It's nonsense. I think those people out of here. Well, I think it's all fake. I think the dead
internet theory is mostly right. I don't think there's a lot of active people out there just in
the mainstream internet, especially, I haven't been on Twitter for any reason at all in years and years
and years. Like, I'll pop in there every now and then I'm going to DM somebody for the show or
I'm checking something but like
I get most of my like
Reddit is my like
my touching point for the
the entire internet it's it's where I go
like I don't go to any of those other places
I'm sure I can see
the bias and the influence and the weird
stuff that's going on at Reddit
I mean every now and then there'll be a post it's like
these eight users are responsible
for 60% of the entire posts
on Reddit and one of them is Galane
Maxwell
yeah yeah there's lots of weird shit
that goes on there and then you got you know every social media companies like this like
as weird as uh zuckerberg is and and musk is like look at that twitch CEO like that guy is
a it's a fucking bizarre you know it's and that people do it out in the open now now it's fine to be
like a james bond villain in public like nobody's ashamed in hiding it anymore it's just
right in your face yeah yeah i mean it's it's you guys don't think there's one indian guy is
firing off bangers at least though like everyone's a block of a hall like there I mean there's a
billion and a half of them so there's some guy there's got to be one there's got to be one he's just
he like but he'll like what they'll often post is stuff where it's like get a look at this
western whore no wonder men don't want to set up down and it's just like a picture of a normal
white lady and everyone's like you're from India and he's like you're from India and he's like
like you cannot prove it's just that again so yeah it's the indian problem is so pronounced on
every social media platform it's got to be addressed it's got to be addressed think about it
the internet was a thing and then they opened it up to 1.5 billion people who love to scam
and now we're wondering what's up it's like no we got to shut that down let me do an IP ban
I want every single person from South Asia banned.
That's a whole region.
Most of the people.
Well, I mean, not to blow China, but they kind of figured out that not everyone is entitled to be a part of their public square.
Maybe we should do that.
Maybe we should do a little bit of that.
I love the.
We ban it.
Maybe.
Maybe it's that the majority of Chinese speakers are in China.
Whereas English is more open to the whole planet
Because people speak it everywhere
True.
She's a translator these days
Like the whole profession
You want to talk about AI taking jobs
Tell me we need translators anymore
Tell me we need a guy in the room
Sitting between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump anymore
When there's like machines that can do it so much better
Like wouldn't you want like three
Like language model like translators running concurrently
So that you get like a perfect translation
I would never be able to trust, especially something high level.
Like if I'm asking where the fucking cinema is, I can probably do that myself, first of all.
But the second of all, I trust, like, you to intercede.
But if I'm talking about how many nukes we're going to move and how close they can be to the Turkish border
and, like, trying to gauge, like, like, something like that, like, I don't know if I trust your translator
or my translator, like, 100% to give me, like, what's going on?
I don't think there's going to be translators in another 20 years.
Like, nobody's going to make that their profession.
There's going to be plenty of people who are bilingual, trilingual, polyglots or whatever,
who can do translation.
But I don't think it's going to be a career that you like.
Yeah, that's what I do.
It won't be a perfect one.
The last ones will be sign language translators.
That's harder, right?
No.
For sure, I think.
What does that mean?
Yes.
He means yes.
Yes.
Yes, that's no.
Look at you.
he's not any sign language i don't know i took it in high school yeah it's a barrel of culture
i know how to say like a few i got a few phrases you know some of it i know what to say i love you
you know like like the important stuff what is it is it um you it's uh this is i uh i but but it's
love is just like crossing your arms like this and you can guess what you is you know
that's it
that's all that's you
yeah why would you need anything other than
this for you you know
but shouldn't I be this
I love you
it's like you put the eye on your chest I think
so so I think
I think maybe that's Jay
but I think this is I
it's been forever let's see
yeah it's been forever
so I don't know
you should have thrown in your hand
like you're remembering it like you're
I'm going through the fucking alphabet.
You're pretending your Professor X over there
scrolling through the potential possibilities.
Oh, I don't think this is the right.
I just visited 20 million possible features.
That was Dr. Strange, by the way, not professor.
Because that's like almost all I remember is like the alphabet and like the basic, basic shit.
I think like boy and girl, like this is maybe, I think maybe this is
boy like i think um but yeah it's been forever i did i took that in high school because i did
not want to take spanish and like my the girl i was interested in was also taking sign language
and it was such a good move because you just went out it was in a double wide trailer outside the
school like so many extracurriculars were the best i i always liked the double whites they had
they had their own ac system which was way more powerful than a double wide needed so it was the
cool and you know it's fucking georgia it's high
hot-ass summers. It was always really nice when you stepped in there, like a, like a refrigerator.
And then she was so like hippie-dippy. You guys have, you know, you're going to this wacky time in
your lives and so much is happening. Who am I to bring that down? You know, she was just, she would
just like hang out with us for an hour and a half every day and we do a little sign language in
between. I don't, like the tests weren't even. She just like, she'd stand up there and like,
everybody fucking do this sign
and we'd do it. It was like, A!
We were like a chorus of signers
like signing and she'd observe and you're like, ah,
I actually like this, you know, or, you know,
that, no, it's that or whatever.
I don't remember written tests.
Everybody's got an A. It was such an easy class.
We didn't learn sign language though.
No.
Wait, did you like a girl? Did that work out?
Oh, yeah. Of course, yeah.
Of course.
I always got the girl.
He's always like girls.
I'm persistent.
You know, you gotta wear him down sometimes, but, but, you know, eventually, yeah.
That's an aggressive method.
Is that, that works out, Steve?
I mean, yeah, yeah, it works.
Yeah, I don't think it's ever failed.
Like, like, once, like, I'm not talking about, like, a stranger that you meet.
Like, I'm just talking about, like, somebody that you know that you think there's already a little something there that you're, like, trying to make happen.
Like, that always works out.
But Kyle's also very imposing.
He likes to loom over the moment.
I'm threatening. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I, um, I also, um, yeah,
she might have just terrified her into submission or something.
Oh, she was scared. She was scared. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's good.
You want them a little scared. Yeah. Yeah. You want them to tremble a little in your presence.
You have to respect you. Yeah. I'd rather, I'd rather be feared. I think, you know, fear might create the respect.
Yeah.
Oh, man. I've been, uh, I've been, uh,
following i know nothing about cryptocurrency let me put that out there nothing about cryptocurrency
nothing about this company micro strategy that this guy uh michael sailor runs oh yeah but
apparently there's a yeah you've read about it so there's apparently a company where this guy
who michael sailor was you know cracked in the head
after the dot com bubble for engaging in some fraudulent misreporting of financial information and then he went from a billionaire to a much poorer person and now he's back in the mix and he has a company called micro strategy and it seems like what his company is is a software company that makes border very little money but other than that he takes investments and then he uses those investments to buy bitcoin and it's
exploded in popularity. And so people are basically transitively, from what I can tell, purchasing
Bitcoin via their shares of his company. And now that Bitcoin is going down, a lot of people are
like, how is this firm going to survive? Because the SEC just said, you can't qualify as a company
anymore because over half of your holdings are just in Bitcoin so you're not a production
you're not a company that produces things you're a holding company you're a firm that holds
resources and value in Bitcoin and more and more people are buying this and a lot of people
are saying this is clearly a scam the guy runs scams and he's doing this again he's going to sell
all the Bitcoin and run off to fucking Antarctica or whatever is this what you're hearing to
Goblin because I don't have the requisite knowledge, but it sounds like this guy's a very obvious
scam artist. Well, I mean, the problem with, so, so yeah, Michael Saylor is like this Bitcoin crackhead
pretty much who like has just suddenly decided like, what if we throw every penny we have
at top blasting Bitcoin? So like this guy is not buying at like 80,000 and it's going up. This guy
was buying it like 120k
Bitcoin's like
down significantly
for that. Yeah, it's like 80 or something now.
Yeah. He bought some the other day. It was like 84.
Like it's
down right now. Um, so
he has thrown
a disgusting amount of money at just buying
Bitcoin every other day and stupid amounts
of it at like the worst possible
prices. And now that it's down,
uh, I read something on
Twitter the other day about how
I guess J.P. Morgan, who's one of their biggest investors, dumped like a hundred-something million dollars worth of their shares because they're worried about them going insolvent.
And like, I mean, when you throw, I don't know how much Bitcoin the guy has, but like, $629,000.
He has 3% of all Bitcoin. He has 3% of all Bitcoin.
He'll probably be okay then.
Wait, how many coins? How many coins does he have?
There's $21 million total, and his firm has $600,000.
That's kind of terrifying, though, when you think of like the implications of that for Bitcoin.
Because I feel like Bitcoin's entire premise originally was this like decentralized, like currency that, you know,
it was really a new, new financial technology.
We're like, just the other day, I was trying to send money to my mom and my bank denied the Zell transfer.
But like, I can send crypto for free and no one can tell me don't.
You know, they're close to free nowadays.
I think the U.S. and China has like 200,000 coins each.
And El Salvador is in maybe not third place, but like close.
They went all in on that, yeah.
They went all in 2021.
And I think it was at like 42K then.
So they bought like an enormous amount of Bitcoin at 42K.
And it has, I mean, their entire, it has buoyed their entire economy because they
bought so much of it.
But when did they got bought at the right time?
Like, well, they're probably able to borrow again.
it. At some point
with Bitcoin, you need
some... The dream of
Bitcoin is that you
hold it until the peak and then
you sell it to someone else for real money.
Like, that's kind of baked
in, right? Yeah, I don't know
how, maybe for the individual
guy who's buying one or two. But I don't know anything.
Like, these people who like believe in it as
a currency, they probably have more
requisite knowledge. Well, yeah, when it's a
national, when they're like building their national economy,
around it. I don't know. I don't know if they're able to borrow other monies against maybe their
enormous stash of Bitcoin. I don't know how that works. I bought like half a coin when I bought a
half a coin when it was like 12. I remember it was 2016 you bought it. Yeah, it was like 10 or 12. I
think I bought like 6200 or something like that, 6,500 maybe and got half. And then I bought another
half when it was it like 50,000. I bought another half. So I'd have, I bought another half. So I'd
have a whole one. And I was telling you the other day, I was like, you know, if this thing drops
below 90, I'm going to buy some more. And you're like, it's at 84. And I'm like, what the
fuck is happening? And like, so I've been watching it all week, like, planning to like, I mean,
at some, if it stays in the low 80s, I'm going to buy a little bit more, you know, not some
you just don't want to be the bag holder because that's what it seems like this is going to be.
I don't think that's true. I think when the United States government has like a hundred billion
dollars of it or whatever, and so does the Chinese government. And I see all of these rich and
powerful people who are involved with it at these massive levels. Like, you know, Trump is pro-cry.
The government always manages their money wisely, Taylor. The French, the Brits, and the Belgians all
purchased tulips at the height of that craze. The governments themselves purchased. Okay. Well,
that was like a two or three-year tulip craze in the Netherlands or whatever. I don't,
I don't recall. But in any case, I don't know if I'd compare the tulips to Bitcoin.
because it does...
But there's no intrinsic value to the book.
Like, I texted you this the other day
when we were talking.
If I owned every Bitcoin immediately right now,
I control all of them.
Imagine that.
Same is true for diamonds.
I have nothing of value.
There's no military backing this.
There's no nothing to...
If I owned all the Bitcoin
and I tried to sell you a Bitcoin,
you'd be like, get fucked.
Why would I buy this nonsense?
I mean,
I think what's concerning about like all these governments buying all the Bitcoin and shit and people like Michael Saylor is it kind of goes against the entire like ethos of what Bitcoin was originally about where like originally it's about like hey why is the government monitoring all our transactions why can the bank deny a transfer of money I should be able to send a million dollars anonymously to whoever I want because it's my currency you know and I think that's what Bitcoin initially was about and I feel like one of the big reasons that like government.
are buying it isn't even because they're treating as an investment tool but because they need to own a chunk of it as fast as possible before it's unattainable and they have some monetary system that's taken over the world that they can't control yeah it could be a just in case measure for them like well let's let's stock up on it's stock up just in case this yeah turns into a real thing but i don't know i just i i i don't know enough
about Bitcoin. I know there's a ton of Bitcoin people listening who are mad at me for this,
but I just don't get it. Like, what is the value? Like, when it's removed from this speculation
market. It just seems like, because I've heard people say, my friends who are really into Bitcoin,
they'll be like, it's a store of value. And it's like, really, because it dropped 30% in a month.
That's not what stores of value do. It's a very volatile store of value. I mean, I think if you look
long term at the end of the day like bitcoin is the kind of thing you have to buy and forget about
for at least like five years to make any money and if you're not able to do that then don't buy
it you know if you're looking to like quickly making them you know some money do go go gamble go buy
some other shit but like if you're able to buy it you know put it on a hardware wallet you know
put it on like a ledger or a treasor or something like that um and just throw it in a drawer
and forget about it and then come back in five years and check it again you'll be fine
Michael Saylor unfortunately can't do that
because he's bought 3% of the global supply of it
so he needed to stay up for a while
especially because there's a stock tied to it
but yeah
you know for someone like one of us going to buy it
I think it's a pretty smart thing to have
especially if you're investing in stuff in other markets
I bet it is I don't know it's smart because it's gone up
in the past I mean I think more
so like it's just it's a very different asset than other things like if you're if you're someone
who like you buy something like let's say you buy a stock if you buy a stock and it goes down 15 20
percent on a bad like announcement or some bad news about the company or something and you're like
shit I need to get rid of this stock right now then like you could do that and get you know
you'd lose 15 20 percent that's a very unusual event in the stock market crypto that's not unusual
but what is usual is like long-term gains generally with stuff like bitcoin not obviously a lot of
cryptocurrencies are trash but bitcoin is something that it's it's you look at the long you know
the five year 10 year chart like dude it goes up just consistently it's very volatile it'll go up
very suddenly and then it'll go down but if you look at the average of like where it's going
like it's a pretty safe place to park your money historic i just got tired of constantly
looking and the price was higher and it's like there will be a
It's like that did circle around to it's smart because it's gone up in the past with just a lot more words.
I mean, the real value, though, like I was mentioning earlier, is the ability to move money around without oversight.
You know, that's really the thing.
I think what I feel like personally is like, dude, when I have, let's say I have $5,000 in my bank account, you know, literally just a few days ago, I tried to zeal my mom $3,500.
You know, I was going to send her some money.
my bank held it for security purposes
and then denied the transfer
I tried again
they deny the transfer again
it's now been 48 hours
of me trying to send this money
I had to send her a direct wire instead
that went through
Bitcoin she could have had the money
in five minutes
and then converted it to USD
if she wanted to done deal
you know but there was an option
with direct wire
for you to do that already
sure that takes a day
and there's fees attached to that
whereas Bitcoin it can cost
cents to send a transaction
and I could send a hundred million dollars
in one go if I want to
do if i try to send someone a million dollars on my bank account i'm going to have to talk to
someone for a very long time on the phone fair enough that's not you know someone has to approve that
even though it's my money right which i i personally think why should why should anyone have to
approve me putting my money anywhere you know i don't know i get the you worry about terror funding
you know you got you got sure sure but it seems like like the whole idea either way dude i mean
they're getting it in the the whole idea of be of it being decentralized and whatnot is almost
reliant on big banks and governments not buying in and now that many of them have that's a
problem regulation is on the horizon for it and it'll kind of be self-defeating in a way where
it's like this is like a free currency you can send but not really because you live in belgium
which means you have to register this and in this way or whatnot so i don't know i it i i i
we we nailed it on the
NFT thing so hard
where we're like this is gay and retarded
and obviously
that now I like I see crypto
and I'm like well what's the like
what's the end game here
like what is the potential end game
and the end game for most people
who are holders is to eventually find
someone to buy it off you
and then transmute that into
USD that you can spend on things
yeah well I mean there's
There's like debit cards that spend right out of your your Bitcoin wallet, though,
and you're just buying with Bitcoin essentially, as far as you're, you're concerned.
Who's doing that, though?
Like the Bitcoin people aren't spending Bitcoin.
They're hold on for dear life people.
No, I have a few friends who use the debit cards.
They're, they have cashback, dude.
They're pretty good.
Like, you can get one of those Bitcoin debit cards and, like, transfer a certain amount into the account it's connected to
and, like, get 2%, 4% cashback on pretty much every transaction.
which is pretty nuts
Interesting
I didn't know that was even a possibility
So Woody I'm a little bit popular
I'm not fully
Like educated on this
But it seems like Khabib did some kind of a
NFT pump and dump
Like I guess he was selling like
What are these?
Popka's coins
I know where you're headed with this
You're going to call Khabib a scammer
These were legit pictures of a hat
Kyle
yeah yeah he was selling legit pictures of a hat um it's that stupid like like uh kossik far um herding shepherd hat that
that they always wear and then like and connor has has this banger tweet i wish i got to find it it's something
like you know you used your father and your dagostani culture to like pump and dump rug pull
your own people pocketing four million dollars there is no excuse for this you were a bad man
It's something like that.
And I'm on,
I'm on Reddit,
like reading through the,
like,
UFC and the MMA subredits.
And they're like,
I mean,
you're not wrong,
but.
Is this Kibb response real or not?
I don't know if I'm falling for it.
But what you got?
Kabe tweeted,
you absolute liar.
You will always try to darken my name
after you got destroyed that night,
but you will never achieve that.
Yes,
good guys don't do that.
They don't create exclusive digital gifts
with real time value
that you can share
with your friends and family
gifts in the shape
of a pop-paca hat
that symbolizes
the tradition
and culture
of Dagestan people
traditions and culture
that are slowly
walking over this world
whether you like it or not
gifts that you can find
exclusively on telegram
the greatest messaging platform
on the world
if he said that
it's hilarious
I swear that's a real tweet
I swear that's a real tweet
oh my god
look at this
oh he didn't write it though
that's not wild
that came from his real account at least
you absolutely
it looks like
Khabib is in the wrong here
and he did one of these
fucking bugpole
fucking NFT bullshit scams
and by the way
this is a guy who doesn't need the money
like not even close to needing the money
not only is he
I mean that's his Twitter
that's like like
no no Twitter right
let me let me expand on that
I can't tell if he needs the money
Like, sometimes it seems like he's beyond rich.
He's like Saudi funded or whatever.
All that money in the Middle East is somehow his, as much as he needs, knock yourself out.
Sure.
Other times, it seems like the Russians are after him for tax evasion, seizing his gym and this
and that and the other thing.
And I'm like, is this guy rich or broke or somehow both at the same time?
I think that the Russians seized his funds for a little while or like some portion of them
because there was a, you know, terrorist attacks were like school shootings.
After a while, they all blend together.
But there was a, there was some kind of a terror attack over there.
And it turned out that one of the guys had trained at Khabib's gym and was like plugged
into that little network in one way or another.
And I think there was something about that.
I remember we had an article about Russia, freezing his funds, seizing his funds,
something like that to the tune of like tens of millions of dollars.
But I think he's beyond wealthy.
I think he's a hundred millionaire between all of the.
the like the the middle eastern money that just gets rained upon him and also just I think he's
just a very successful person I I know he does a lot of um like ad work like sponsorship stuff
like he's he's in commercials over there you know yeah it someone on Reddit the world's
most reliable source was like he's pretty obviously being extorted to do shit he doesn't want to
and I'm like maybe
or maybe he's just
maybe everyone's moral until they break
and can't turn down the easy money anymore
like imagine if he made
freaking $8 million selling pictures of hats
they said it was it was either two or four million
somewhere in that range okay
three million dollars
for what someone that works for him to make a tweet
yeah but you're missing off
it's exactly what Connor said it was
was. It's him ripping off his most devoted and loving fans while using his dead father's name
and and Dagestani culture to do so. Yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's, Connor's never done anything
that despicable. All of Connor's, uh, wait a minute. Not business wise, not business wise.
Well, now we're putting qualifies on it. He's literally convicted rapists. I mean, I don't know
what could be. I mean, what I think about selling pictures of a hat and a convicted rapist. I'll go to the
I'm talking about business, and we don't know much about Kopeep's personal life.
You were qualified.
You said Connor's never done anything that despicable.
How many women has he raped?
Well, legally speaking, I think you're only allowed to mention the one because he was found
like legally liable for that one.
Like they found him guilty or whatever.
But business wise, he's never ripped us off or like had a scammy thing.
I think he had a coin once that like didn't do what he said and he paid everybody their
money back. Like 100%.
He was like, oh, I don't know about that. Is that true?
Yeah. He paid everybody their money back.
Kabib, on the other hand, has rug pulled his popka NFTs and from these poor Kazakh people.
Connor just sold liquor and it was like, it was real liquor. He sells beer, it's real beer.
Like, I've never seen him do a scammy thing. He is, of course, a terrible human being.
And I think he raped that woman. I'm pretty sure the court said he did.
Yeah.
And also just not a nice guy, like you could tell.
He just scams women out of sex.
You know, that's one way to put it.
He's a sexual scammer, which is, I think, a generous term, actually.
Yeah, I think he physically forced her to suck his dick.
I think that's what he did.
Something like that.
Oh, yeah, that's, yeah, that's rape.
Yeah.
Yeah, not the nicest guy.
I guess I'd rather buy the silly hat then, you know?
Well, it's not even a real silly hat.
If he was selling real silly hats and they were like low quality, like, this is a rat hat.
I'd be like, all right, maybe he didn't understand the quality.
Maybe these are some Romanian hats, not the kind that he thought they were going to be.
But it's an NFT.
It's by its very nature.
Who's doing NFTs in 2025?
That's another good question.
Like, we immediately saw those NFTs and it was one of those things where it's like, huh, are we just blind the way that we were to like this crypto thing?
and any other big things.
And we all knew NVIDIA was an incredible company,
but we didn't see them doing what they've done.
Like maybe we just didn't see this coming.
Maybe NFTs really are the future.
And it was like, no, no, they're not.
Like, clearly they're not.
There's cartoon characters,
and you guys are spending all this money on them.
And there's, like, I understand why Pokemon cards are expensive.
Like, when I see that holographic charzard
that Logan Paul was wearing, like,
a necklace instead of a big diamond.
It's worth $400,000 somewhere
in that range. It's like, I get
that. That is rare. There aren't many
of those. And it's part of a thing
that like millions of people are into.
I get why that's valuable. Just like that
Superman
copy one, like the episode one of
Superman, they found a new one
in an attic somewhere, $9 million.
I get why that is
it's rare. It's part of something
that people that's beloved. I get its value.
But the NFD is it was clear. It was clear that it
wasn't going to work because if for one thing let's just say it did catch on like fire and everybody was
like yeah you got check out my monkey and I was like oh you haven't seen my raccoon and what it was like
you guys don't even know check out my stag and we're like wow he's got the stag it was like it's like
the the business card scene an American psycho if that happened we would just steal them we would
just copy paste like it's just a digital image like you can tell me I can't have it and only
you can have it, but I'm just going to steal it right now.
It's mine now.
It's digital.
We saw NFTs were stupid from the start.
And there have been a few Bitcoin dips where I'm like, aha, I'm about to be proven right.
Yep.
I'm waiting to be more fully proven right this time.
I get that it dip from maybe 125 to 85, something that's close.
About right.
Yep.
It's got more to go down for sure.
It's not done.
I won't be flexing until it drops below 10,000, 10,000.
you know at that point
Bitcoin has collapsed but until then this could just
be one of the dips like so many others
Yeah I agree I agree
I don't know anything about it
It's just the feel of it that's just the way it has
That's the way the motion is is
Of the ocean is going
Like Trump is propping it up
Right Trump has the US government buying it
Trump is sort of
I don't know what he's doing US transactions
In his own crypto coin and shit like that
When Trump's out of office
when someday he will be.
What will that do to the crypto universe?
I don't know.
I don't feel like the left is going to be anti-Bitcoin or anything.
I don't know.
I think it's universally beloved at the high end of politics because they love money.
They love getting bribed and a difficult to track way to send millions of dollars by wire
is probably a good look for most of our politicians.
I'm sure they wanted to prosper and do well.
I don't know.
I don't see it going anywhere, but we'll see.
Maybe that's not what happened.
The left tried to regulate it and then they're like,
all right,
so let's have regulated coins and unregulated coins,
the shit coins.
And people will know that they're buying something speculative
and we'll let adults make bad choices if they want to.
And then these are the ones that are more regulated.
That's what the left did.
I see.
So it's not like they're just embracing it and making presidential coins
to get money funneled to them.
That's not a whole size thing.
administration was very scary for
anyone who owned Bitcoin for sure
I think Gary Gensler when he was at the SEC
was probably the scariest man on earth
for anyone who owned Bitcoin
turned out okay
yeah thank God you know
thank God I
I've been watching this Peter Thiel
guy because he seems like a cartoon villain
and I'm wondering why no one has run up with a big net
and like captured him yet because it's like there he is
that's fucking blowfield he's right there in front
of you guys. He's not on Skull Island. He's not at the center of the earth in a fiery cave. He's
just on 60 minutes, calling the Pope the Antichrist. There he is. There he is. I'm still not
going to get him. No? The Marines aren't on the way? What are we doing here? Why haven't we grabbed
him yet? Like, that guy just, he seems more, he seems cartoon villain evil. I think he literally
did say the Pope was the Antichrist this week. He picked the way of his president. He's a powerful
the vice president yeah i mean somebody's got to okay traditionally the president elect us do they
but do they but do they okay maybe i don't know how can i know though right right power brokers i
think i think that like i think once that once the group like like like like like i bet there's
some like swanky meeting it's somewhere and like the the head of the republican national uh committees
there and like all the higher ups and the donors are there too and they're like hey bob's coming
overnight we're going to take one last look at bob and see if he's our guy and it's kind of like
that and then they're like bob you're going to love this we have a couple ideas for VP for you
what do you think of johnson or barons or paul because it's going to be one of those actually it's just
paul it's paul the first three were a smokescreen it's paul your vice president's paul i feel like that's how
it goes i don't think the i don't know maybe if you're like the if you
I don't know. I think they pick them for you. I just, I just do. I don't think you think some
buddy picked Tim Walls for Kamala? Yes. Yes, I absolutely do. I, um, yeah, I think that there was a lot
of like research and focus groups and a lot of like weighing and measuring and a lot of like back
handed like left handed handshakes that were going on like this guy owes me for this that this guy
me for that. I didn't think that he was the go-to guy. He just didn't. I know people
talked about Shapiro and that way from, yeah, yeah, like Tim Walls. He was a bad pick. I didn't
dislike him, though. Like, I remember like in the heat of the race, uh, one time I was, I was seeing
the right constantly go after him. And it was like, you are failing at this attack on this guy.
You should just keep his name out of your mouth because the more people look at him, the more
they're going to like him. He just seems like a nice, friendly guy. He hunts and he,
And he's a family man and he has a sense of humor.
Like he hunts, he fixes his own car and all that stuff is true.
He's a family man.
He seems like a good guy.
But he wasn't the vibe that I wanted.
I'm sorry, the Democratic Party has kind of a pansy problem.
Yeah.
And Tim Walls isn't the solution.
I wanted, you know, he's obviously a Republican, but like sort of Arnold Schwarzenegger type vibe.
I don't know who we have, you know, that would do that.
But I wanted someone who would offset the.
Pansy problem and he wasn't the guy.
No, and he also got in...
Wait, did I say the name wrong?
No, you said it right.
No, you said it right.
You just almost said the N-word.
I didn't almost think it.
I don't know what we were talking about.
The treacherous last name to say.
Did you hear about the Somali scam going on in Minnesota?
Which one?
Oh, that's right to say, which the biggest supporter of that terrorist organization, it turns
out is the Minnesota tax payer. That's not hyperbole. Yeah. So basically in Minnesota, Somalis
from a country known for piracy and fraud got here and immediately began engaging in piracy
and fraud where they realized they could get money by saying their kids are autistic. And then you
find a doctor to prescribe or to diagnose them rather as autistic. And then that
boosts money. And so basically the Minnesota
state fund for autism
went from $3 million in
2018 to $400
million today. And it's
all fraud driven
and a huge amount of that money, like
Kyle said, is being donated
to a terror group
in Somalia.
And the only reason
that Jacob Frey
was re-elected
in Minnesota as the mayor
is because intra-tribal Somali yeah the mayor of Minnesota Jacob Frey he was running against
no the mayor of Minnesota or I'm sorry the mayor of Minneapolis my mistake the mayor of
Minneapolis it was Jacob Frey the incumbent against this Somali guy and the only reason the
Somali guy lost is because it turns out happenstance now Somali tribal
politics are part of
Minnesota politics
because
Elon Omar went out there
and was like, we all have to stand
together, we have to do this and that
and then it failed. And she went
out again and was like, we must
remove these
Guglamites or whatever
the fucking other tribe is named
saying like, do we have to get rid of them
because they're not for Somalia.
We are for Somalia. Minnesota
for Somalia.
and so believe it or not
importing hundreds of thousands
of Somalis has not made America
Trump took away their protected status
see that
the Somalis?
A great deal of Somalis yes
good yeah
did the same thing you did to the Venezuelans
and they don't belong here bro
Somalia sucks
good old
okay
you ever met a Somali
that must be an edgy take on Reddit
but it's not in the world
I know but like
Well, just like a blanket statement.
They don't belong here, but Somalis.
It's like a country of millions and millions of people.
Like, some of them are fine.
Some of them come over here and one of the-
What are your favorite Somali inventions?
Like, what are your favorite things?
Inventions?
Yeah, like inventions, uh, industrious practices.
Like, what are your favorites?
I'm, I'm just, I'm not looking for inventors.
I'm not looking for the Somali and Thomas Edison.
I just think we should have.
Tomar's, Edison.
And this is what I say, is that.
there is so much gold in the bald man's head that you must get it most of the
somalians i've met are like really good guys uh and hardworking and like family people
um muslims yeah there's plenty of nice people from every country of course well yeah but you're
saying we don't need any of them keep them out all over yeah what about the no i think i think
their uh their entryway has been solid like we no no thanks i don't know i've never met a
Somali I didn't like.
All the Somalians I've ever met I really liked seem like good people, but I don't think
that we should let any group fraudulently take money from our social services programs and
send it to Al-Qaeda linked groups in Africa.
I'll stand with you there.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I don't know any Somalians.
I've known a couple Nigerians and they've been winners.
Chocolate Thunder's one of them, right?
He came here.
I think you got an engineering degree.
now he's working hard during the day, building a real estate empire on the side.
Got him a white one?
He does.
These are,
experience muscle, dude.
Those guys grind.
He's cool because I like him.
So I'm good for that.
But he's like good for America.
Like he does good things.
He's a productive member of society's winner.
He's,
do you think he's on basketball?
He's a Celtics fan, which makes him racist against black people somehow.
Yeah. But like, I don't know. I think in general, people that he was born here, but his parents moved here, people who self-select and go to another country to find a better life are often the cream of the crop on where they came from. People who just stay where they are and suffer and fail, the lazy ones.
Sometimes, but there's also plenty of retards coming in.
Yeah, I mean, I see all of their whole families.
over. Yeah. I don't know. I think we all just want a more selective
legal process for immigration. You know what I want? Oh, I'm sorry. Kind of like
They should be tall too. I would like it if we had some regulation on where they
live for a while. Like I don't like Chinatown or Little Italy or whatever. Like maybe
this is racist. I don't know. But I would rather be more of a melting pot where like
they didn't take over an area. Instead, they blended in and be and,
Sure, they could influence us a little bit.
That's traditionally what's always happened, though.
If you look at New York, right?
You know, is it?
Somalia, the little Somalia is not assimilary.
I'm talking about traditional immigration.
I'm talking about Italians, Irish, Germans,
how they end up in these pockets of where they speak the same language,
and everybody there is that.
Yeah, that's fine.
But assimilation doesn't seem to be as big a thing anymore,
because now they'll be like, oh,
This group in this group of Haitians should assimilate to Ohio and they're like, what are you a racist?
You're trying to get them to delete their history?
And it's like, no, that's part of assimilating is what do you think assimilation is?
It's not some ethereal guess.
It's you assimilate to white Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture.
That's what America's always.
You assimilate to that.
You bring whatever bits of spices and food you can and then you move from there.
like everyone's happy with the food i think maybe american food is subpar because we're never like
keep your food where you came from we're like what you got over there maybe it's an upgrade
i think we have good food what's american food sorry go ahead what's american food
burgers uh our version of pizza barbecue barbecue would probably be the the biggest
piece of
Americana as far as
cooking because that's something that just
isn't done similarly elsewhere.
Korea? Those
aren't my top tier food. You know what?
Korea took it from us.
Asia has been. You name a country.
What? Thailand, China, Japan.
They all have top tier food.
I like Vietnamese food. Where the fuck is
foe from? Is that Vietnamese?
That's that's Vietnamese.
I love Vietnamese.
Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you just go around
China and it's banger after banger after
bangers. They're dope. And Japan. Japan kicks ass at food. Sushi, nobody else. Nobody else,
you know, put their feet in that pool figuring out sushi. They did. They figured it out and it's
fantastic. Unless you're picky. That's the ultimate picky eater food, isn't it? Where they're like,
I won't have sushi. See, I'm not with you on that one. I've tried sushi 14 times. I've
disliked sushi 14 times. What have you tried? What pieces? Everyone says this. I've tried. I've
tried California roll. I've tried
octopus. I've tried vegetarian
shit. I've tried it in the little dipping
thing. I do like the ginger
strips that like come on the side.
I'll eat that straight up off your plate.
But
I am not a guy who doesn't like
sushi because he hasn't tried it. I've
thoroughly tried
a plethora of
different choices. And you're getting it in
the Nagiri form, which is
just the bed of rice and then the
slice of fish. That's the form
you're getting. It's a circle, like a cylinder. Oh, you're getting rolls. You're getting rolls, brother. You got to get
nagiri. He's not going to like Nicky. Do you get wrong? You think you don't want a big chunk of raw fish?
If you want to really try sushi, you do need to get nagiri for sure. Yeah. That's what I order every time.
I get sushi a lot. I get sashimi. I don't even get the rice. I just eat the slices of raw meat.
And then you slather that wasabi on it. Would you know, I'm saying, I know that it's,
Horse radish.
I know,
but it's tasty and I like it.
Real wasabi is extremely expensive
and it's only potent for like minutes
after it's been
not minced,
graded and then like made.
So like you've never,
yeah,
we've never had real wasabi.
Minutes.
Now I feel like I have to try this
horse shit version of sushi.
Also,
barbecue,
but it's the only version of sushi that's like real.
You get a little piece in the gearie.
That's the traditional sushi thing you see.
How is the sushi roll not real?
I mean,
it's at a restaurant on a Americanized sushi.
Because it's like 90% rice and then there's like a piece of cucumber and mayo.
And then a tiny,
a whisper of a minute.
Well,
that's what he said is California.
Oh,
yeah,
California roll.
Well,
I've tried a lot of choices.
That's definitely some white people.
I specifically mentioned California rule because people say,
have you tried a California roll?
When you say you don't like sushi,
they're like that is the,
the pad tie of sushi, the one that everyone is okay with.
And I'm like, not even that one.
That's why I called it out.
But I don't like California rolls either.
I think they're shitty.
Like, I like regular sushi.
I like spicy tuna rolls.
And I like really good tuna, uh,
that's what I get if I'm going to get sushi.
But I stopped eating sushi because I saw either on Reddit or YouTube,
someone had like good high quality sushi and you could see the worm crawling out of it,
like a parasitic worm crawling out of the,
So when you say high quality
That wasn't high quality
Yeah, dude
Chew it well
All
All sushi fish should be frozen
beforehand
It is
Unless they clearly didn't freeze it enough
Yeah, I don't know what the situation was
Or maybe they defrosted it
And then like then some sort of worm or parasite
Got in anymore
Cause weight loss
No, I think it just caused
Just terrible illness
Probably muscle wasting
Does that count?
It's probably
It probably just causes diarrhea.
Also, I looked up barbecue because I was positive that we didn't invent.
I don't think there are any American foods.
I'm pretty sure they just aren't.
I was right.
It's from the Caribbean.
Barbecue is based on the native word barbacoa.
It's the Taino people, Christopher Columbus.
You think those fuckers figured it out, or do you think it got here and we figured it out?
I think that they figured it out.
They were slow cooking over special kinds of wood.
Christopher Columbus came.
enslaved, raped, pillage, and stole
that. You're not a patriot at all, dude.
Stole that. You're a
bitch. You're a Kama. You're a Pinko.
Pinko Kyle.
I'm just saying, you're trying to make up
facts about American cuisine when, in my
opinion, we don't have a cuisine. That's the beauty
of what we are. Our culture is
a melting pot of cultures. That's why
I don't like 100% slamming
the door on immigration.
I'm sure someone was
frying. I love some good multicultural
It's in the name.
I love a buffalo
Wait, Kyle, are you undercutting
Buffalo wings now?
I doubt
that like Buffalo New York
Oh, the Houtousi tribe on this island
also ate chicken with fucking the spices
they had available, so I guess we stole that.
I mean, if you can, I bet someone
else was eating hot wings before those
goofballs in Buffalo, New York
figured it out, you know what I mean?
Like, like,
the secret
The secret of Buffalo wings is
a chicken,
wing and hot sauce.
I doubt they were the first ever
to come up with that winning combination.
Why do you doubt America able
to create that, but not anyone else, right?
Because America is like 200
fucking years old. And everyone else
is thousands of years old.
Those cultures had all of that time.
And by
very nature, we're a country of immigrants
where we're taking the best of
everything and then we Americanize it.
We turn it up to 10. We deep fry
it. We add more salt. We had
cheese, more sugar, more
cheese is a big one that we love to do
and it becomes this
other thing. The hot dog's not from here,
the Frankfurter, but
fucking chili cheese dogs, that's
American. I bet nobody else had ever
done a fucking loaded, and
all of the... I don't know, I bet Germans
did that, but we did steal
the Frankfurter and we
improved it.
We made better than Germany. The hamburger is
from Hamburg. Like, like, like, it's
it's it's or no no and the sandwich is the earl of sandwich like like we didn't do anything like our pizza is corn bread i just don't like
that's indian that's native americans which you could kind of take credit for um but that was like
indigenous tribes in america using grinding the corn up and making like dude i got one you can't take that
away for me that's american cornbread if you have to say native americans aren't americans it's in the name
Yeah, but Native Americans aren't American culture exactly.
Like, they certainly...
There's nothing I can say that you'll accept at this point.
There's like six of them left and they lost, dude.
Like, we won.
Yeah, so we don't get to like take credit for inventing cornbread.
Yes, we can.
We won.
No, we just told me that America's Anglo-Saxon Western values and all of a sudden it's whatever is here.
Like, no, we didn't invent corn bread.
I'm saying we get credit for all of it.
no cracker invented cornbread
I promise you
that was definitely some
Indian grinding up some maze
and like drying it out on a rock
You think they made it good?
Well no they didn't have butter
but that's neither good there was
horrific and disgusting
I doubt they didn't figure out
They probably use animal fat
Or suet for butter
Well no they didn't have domestication
They didn't have no of course not
That was thousands of days
You need cattle for that
I don't know why you're saying
That was 10 turns of
ahead in the sieve game that we've all been through this with the domesticated animals they didn't
have access they didn't have i don't think the native americans had cheese to my knowledge but in any
case or or butter or any of the dairy products but in any case they invented cooking cornbread
but we were cheesed up when we showed up like those those european boys they were down for cheese
they had thousands of years of cheese eating to prepare their gut biome then they got there and
maybe the milk drinking more than anything right probably but milk is great so
you can't rip on people from drinking.
But I stand by my point.
There are no real American foods.
That's insane.
Macaroni is where the cheese comes in a powder.
Macroony and cheese is from France.
A burger is American.
The shape of the food of a burger is American.
Whether or not there are things from different cultures in that burger is, you know,
to the birds.
There's plenty of things you can do.
But a burger is American.
Defy a burger.
say it's a patty.
Tell me when something is a burger.
Yeah, it has two buns of patty, cheese, and then usually tomatoes.
It has to have cheese?
I mean, if you're like a, if you're like a baby back bitch and you like hamburgers,
then I guess you can do that.
Look, we didn't invent the hamburger.
Yeah, but we did it better than Germans.
They took two pieces of bread and put a piece of meat in the middle.
That's a fucking hamburger.
We did it better than them.
We made it a food.
We Americanized it and we...
You can say that about any number of things,
but that doesn't make it an American food.
Like, is spaghetti American?
No, don't think.
The way we do it is. The way we do it is.
We'll then say American spaghetti.
You just don't have pride in America, did it.
It's like if I take a fucking Supra and put a small block Chevy in it,
I ain't an American car.
I didn't, look what I did!
I know, it's incredible!
No, it's a fucking Jap car that I bastardized.
Like, just because,
because it's fast doesn't mean that America
makes amazing cars. No, that's a Japanese
car that I fucking stuck an American engine
in. I think we make tasty food.
Yeah, but by Kyle's standards,
that's not wrong. We have to invent a new
food group in the last 200 years
because everything existed.
It's in some form.
Kyle's arguing about this like it's religion,
just unfalsifiable, unfalsifiable hypothesis.
Let's talk about noodles then.
Like, who invented the noodles?
America.
Oh, probably the China man.
it's in dispute
but I'm pretty sure
it's China
a whopping a Chinese guy
got in a fight
and then
yeah a lot of that stuff
goes back to China
if you go back to the origins
but I'm not trying to be
anti-American here
but we didn't fucking invent anything
like most of our core
like favorite American foods
like hamburgers french fries pizza
like think about what I just said
like French fries
and hamburgers
like they're named for the countries
they came from
We made it better.
In what ways?
Wait, wait, wait.
Cheezier.
And even if we did, you don't get to make credit for it.
Have you ever seen a pizza made in Italy?
It's like they're allergic to cheese.
They don't put enough on there.
We doubt.
Was Coke the first soda?
No.
Was there?
Well, it wasn't even a soda.
It was a medicinal thing at the time.
Coca-Cola.
It's had Coca-Cola comes from the two main ingredients, the coconut and the cola plant.
Or the, or the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the coca plant i got that little and the the the the coca plant is of course where cocaine comes from so
um at the at the time cocaine was used medicinally and so the guy who invented coca cola wasn't
trying to make a new thing for the the soda jerks to sell to kids he was trying to make a tonic
it was it was supposed to like a health tonic to like you know cure this that and the other
sounds so much better than current coke just getting some nice fucking blow water in like 1920
they still i think it still has
doesn't they still have trace amount?
I choose to believe the formal
political industry lobby against Coca-Cola.
That's why we don't have it anymore.
It absolutely does not have trace amounts of cocaine.
Currently or back in the day?
I feel like that would cause a lot of issues for people taking drug tests.
It could, yeah, like a lane eating
I'm just trying too much Coke, I swear.
So the Coca-Cola company,
they import legally grown coca leaves from Peru
to be processed by a third party
the coca leaf extract
from the Steppen company
which imports 100 metric tons of dried
coca leaves annually from Peru
and then they remove the cocaine
from the extract
so they put it
is it like in the badge
yeah that's interesting they still use the cocoa leaves
that's that's that's wild
that they're legally allowed to bring in
coca coca leaves and then process them and then just remove the cocaine
I guess for the flavoring is that why is that part of the secret
recipe of Coca-Cola you remember do you know the story about
the the Coca-Cola employee who's
stole the secret recipe and tried to sell it to the Pepsi company.
Oh, yeah.
They got the fence involved.
Didn't Pepsi give it back?
Pepsi was like, we got to, we got to, you know, get right with Christ here.
And then they sent that one guy to jail.
That's so funny.
He really thought he was like, I'm bringing the roof down on the whole operation.
And then Pepsi is like, nah.
Nothing tastes like Coca-Cola.
Like clearly millions of dollars have been.
spent to try to copy that flavor and nothing comes close.
Like, none of those like special K Walmart brand colas ever even come close to what?
You don't like Shasta?
You're not a Shasta man.
I mean, I'm not saying those are like terrible colas, like especially if they have full
sugar, but they don't taste like Coke.
It's weird that Coke is on top because it's clearly not the best.
What is the best?
What's the best cola?
It's right.
Or that's not cola.
I guess Pepsi's better than Coke.
Well, Coca-Cola owns, like, tons of products.
They probably own IBC cherry cola.
I didn't limit myself to just shitty drinks.
I mean, dude, if a IBC black cherry is on the shelf next to a Coca-Cola, only a fucking psycho would reach for the Coca-Cola.
So you're, because this is just colas, not all sodas.
It's kind of Coke Pepsi, Dr. Pepper.
Those are kind of the only cola.
No, no, no, Dr. Pepper is not a cola.
It's a cherry soda.
Dr. Perez is a cherry soda.
Wait, hold on.
What even?
So, cola.
Colas have cola in them.
Interesting.
So anyway.
I thought it was the color.
All right.
So the three core colas for me are Coca-Cola, Pepsi Cola, and Royal Crown Cola.
And if all three of them were sitting there, full sugar, 12-ounce cans, in a bucket of ice, I would reach for the RC Cola.
That's my favorite of the three.
it's like a slightly
frutier Pepsi
I like it
I think I've always liked RCCola
We used to get them in glass bottles
At like the general store
That we'd hang out at as a kid
And that shit's whimsical as fuck to me
I love RC Cola
And if you don't drink
If you don't drink Coca Cola every day
It's pretty harsh
Like you taste it
And you're like
Fuck it hits back
Like it's not a mellow
Drink at all
Yeah
Any sort of carbon
drink like that. Like if you're not used to
drinking carbonation and you hop into
a carbonated beverage, it's pretty
aggressive. How soft
is that sentence you just uttered?
What do you mean?
Some people don't drink
carbonated beverage. I don't think carbonated beverages
very much. Woody is expressing
exactly this right? Yeah.
We ran out of lemonade, so my
wife gave me a ginger ale.
The fuck is still here on open. I won't
drink this shit.
I hate ginger ale. I hate ginger ale.
I love ginger ale.
King shit.
I like root beer.
Gingerelle is in for taste.
Gingerill is medicine.
Root beer's great.
Rupier's very good.
Love root beer.
Yeah.
What's your favorite root beer?
All right.
So I'll tell you right now, of the main ones, I like barks.
I think it's the best.
Oh, of the big boys.
But if you expand out a little bit, I prefer Virgil's.
Virgil's comes in the glass cantilever bottles.
I think it's, you can get, they have this one that's like the special reserve with Bavarian
nutmeg in it.
and that one's extremely good.
It's like $4 a bottle, but it's a big bottle.
It's a European bottle.
That's my favorite by far.
But like IBC and mug, pale in comparison to Barks.
Barks has bite.
That's crazy.
IBC is what I was going to say is the king.
For cherry soda, it's like candy.
It's like liquid candy.
Has the king cream soda.
IBC cream soda is the best soda in the world.
And IBC root beer is also fucking solid.
Cream soda is criminally underrated.
I don't know why everyone drinks colas
when like black cherry and cream soda and better things exist.
Black cherry is too sour.
I don't like it.
I love cherry.
And I've always loved cherry soda.
I like peach soda too.
That's a Georgia thing.
I don't want a peach soda.
Nehai makes peach and there's another company that's slipping my mind.
But Nehai makes a really good peach soda.
It's tasty.
super sweet
you guys ever seen the dr pepper cream soda
yeah i don't like it
i tried it and i did not like it yeah love that shit
is that what you're all about are you slamming those
dude i mean no because like i don't find them too often a pitt is great i also really
like pib um but yeah whenever i do see him on the shelf i'm definitely drilling a cream
soda dr pepper i'm like a doctor pepper only kind of guy these 12 packs were by two
get three free. And they were
$11. Yeah, dude, they're giving
Pimp away. No, I just
don't like it. It's all Coca-Cola products.
Oh, is that a Coke product?
It must be. It's part
of the family of products
that you can mix and match into
the vibe to get three-free thing
that I've been
I have so many sodas.
I've been ordering, I mean, getting ready for Thanksgiving.
Let's transition to Thanksgiving talk
a little bit. I'm getting ready for Thanksgiving dinner.
And I keep being like
I forgot the sausage.
I got to do another order.
Fucking stuffing.
I forgot the fucking celery for the stuffing.
So I've done like multiple grocery orders in the last three days.
But every time I take advantage of that buy two, get three sodas.
So I've got like, I don't know, 20, 12 packs of soda in the kitchen.
Like legit, like a little pyramid of soda that I've purchased.
I'm not going to have to buy it for a long time.
It's such a good deal.
Is it all Coke zero?
It's mostly Pib zero, because that's probably,
my favorite right now.
Like that's kind of my go-to soda right now.
I like Dr. Pepper Zero a lot too.
I like Pepsi Zero.
They're all good.
I like all those.
But I'm getting ready for Thanksgiving.
I'm going to, I was going to do a turkey,
but then like the oil for the turkey alone is $60.
And then the turkey's basically free.
I don't know, somebody subsidizing turkeys around this time of year.
I don't know how that works for a giant turkey.
If that, they get really cheap.
And then, but yeah, I'd have to get a propane tank.
and then I got to get the $60 for oil,
and it's like, all right, I'm $85 in before I get the bird.
And then I saw the Popeyes does fully cooked deep fried turkeys for $60.
And I was like, oh, problem solved, just buy one from them.
But they all sold out, and now they're all sold out,
and I can't get a frozen turkey deep, but to thaw out in time.
So I've got turkey breasts that I've got brining in there,
and I'm hoping I can deep fry just the turkey breasts.
So I'm going to try to do that.
You're not going to have a whole bird.
No, I'm just going to deep fry
the, it's like a skin on, bone-in
like big turkey breasts that I got fresh. Is it even a
holiday? I mean,
I'll make it through somehow,
some way, but I'm hoping that works out
because every time I deep fry
the whole turkey, I just deep-friing
two turkey breasts.
Yeah, yeah, they're two and a half pounds each.
I mean,
this isn't in the spirit of the season at all.
No, no, I need the whole
bird in there to make it
Thanksgiving? Yeah.
Yeah, dude, all the skin on it and shit.
That's the whole... Get the skin in there.
Yeah. Eat it. It's tasty.
You got the wings on there. You get to rip the wings
off when you... That's one of the
best parts. I don't like the legs
or the wings. I just eat the turkey breast anyway.
That's psychotic. You don't like the legs
or the... You don't like the only could
meat on a turkey? I like the breast.
The turkey breast. You like the white
dry ass breast.
It's deep fried turkey. It's incredibly
juicy. When you squeeze the meat, you
The liquid drips out of it.
Like, I don't know what you're talking about.
It's dry.
I eat fried turkey breasts every year.
And I have like, two slices of a cook.
Oh, what are we doing here?
That's like, Grandma Taylor doesn't know.
I would put her against you in a competition to the death with my life on the line.
First of all, David's serious.
Oh, I would.
Because he couldn't handle it.
It just sounds like your grandma does.
doesn't know the way around a deep fryer. Maybe that's
it's my grandpa who's deep frying it. My grandma is worrying about
roasting the prime rib, by the way.
Ah, the traditional prime rib for the traditional prime rib.
Which is why I only eat two tiny slices of
white meat on the turkey because it's like this is decent. It's
fried. So the skin's great. Have you ever eaten wild turkey?
Like not a butterball from the grocery store, but a fucking, I lived out in the
wilderness.
It's a little gaming.
not only is it gamey
that's a little bony
not much meat on it bird
it's like a big pheasant
yeah yeah
it's more like a fat buzzard
it's
like I remember we shot one
one time and I was just like
God are we gonna eat this
I don't want to eat this
and I was like I don't know what to do with it
it's kind of illegal that we shot it
and I'm like
well fuck let's let's throw it the freezer
and when turkey season comes
around, then we'll get it like stuffed and mounted because it was a nice one. I shot it with a
rifle from 400 yards away. That's not how you turkey hunt for anyone who doesn't know. No, you don't
usually use a rifle from that distance for turkeys because it would explode the turkey you
wouldn't eat. No, it didn't. It didn't explode. But we threw him in the deep freeze and I was like
Turkey sees comes around with all this bad boy out, take the taxiderm, get her turkey all dressed up
because it was a nice one. I didn't know much about
but apparently like our buddy who was like look at the beard on that gobbler or whatever they say
and so we froze it in the deep freeze with the pizza put a trash bag through in the deep freeze
with the pizzas and there was also like an entire deer worth of like steaks and hamburger meat
the power went out and and i guess when the power went out like maybe the breaker flip
one way or another deep freeze stopped working and you know it's in the basement you only go down
there when you eat a pizza on a Saturday night or something, you don't want to cook.
So, like, I don't know how much time went by without us knowing that it was just down there
warm.
And deep freeze is sealed, so you don't smell it right away until you go down there for that
pizza one night.
And it was just the most rancid, awful punch in the nose smell you've ever smelled.
And then we had to figure out what to do.
Because it was like full, like a big deep freeze, like a chest freezer, like as big as my
desk is and like me and you could hop in there and play cards it's that big like close the door on
us and it all of that shit was in there putrified down to like it was there was like lots of liquid
from the ice had melted and mixed with the putrified meat and we just wanted rid of that thing
and my brother-in-law was like you ain't throwing out away are you and we're like yeah we are
we're going we put a like a strap on it like a like a ratchet strap picked it up with a tractor
and just took it away to the edge of the property
and just left it there.
He went out there and washed that thing out
and took it home with him.
Like how much could that freezer have been worth?
Like I just remember the smell was so bad.
We smelled the, we were 200 yards away.
And the smell hit us, like the shockwave of the Beirut explosion.
It was delayed.
But when it got there, you were just like, oh!
Like we start, I threw up.
I threw up when the smell got to us.
Like, it was that bad.
It was so putrid and disgust.
So you wouldn't have used this fridge repurposed?
No.
As far as I know, he still is using that freezer to this day.
And it was so disgusting.
What do you say?
$300.
I don't know what a deep freeze cost, but it couldn't have been, it wasn't worth all that.
Couldn't have to warrant that, yeah.
But anyway, my turkey was rotted away in there and never got to get the poor old boy stuffed and everything.
But yeah, what are you doing for Thanksgiving?
You go into Grandma's house and getting some disappointing turkey?
this year I'm going to my girlfriend's dad's side and then her mom's side and I'm always a bit of a grump with the food because I'm used to my grandma and a lot of these I always assumed grandma was just a label you put on someone who was a master chef but it turns out a lot of people's fucking grandmas aren't great cooks and so you have to go eat their food
And then you're kind of disappointed because you're like, this isn't great.
And so I can't make it to my grandmas for Thanksgiving this year at all, unfortunately.
Christmas, I'm still all in, still all in on Christmas every year going there.
She was already telling me, she was like, Nat Taylor, I know you're coming down, the night of the 23rd.
And so what I've got for us that evening is I'm going to do seafood ball.
And so I've got about 20 pounds.
of snow cramp and I've got a bunch of this and that and just listing all the things that she's
going to do in this boil, this boil where she's going to dump it all out on the table and it's
going to be fantastic. And so I only just have to wait until Christmas season because I'm not going
to get my tasty treats in Thanksgiving. Hmm. Well, the world who boils a race woman. She is
wonderful. She is wonderful. I like I'm at the point in my adult life. Like I'm 35.
and my grandma's 80
where I'm like, oh my God,
she's not going to be around forever.
Taylor, I worry about that.
I worry about all the time
because I love her so dearly.
I'm like
Andy Bernard in the office where he's like
if my grandma ever dies, I'm going to kill
myself.
I think that's what he says in the show, which is
very funny.
Yeah, it stinks.
It's like, oh, man, like they're getting so old.
They're not with it as much anymore.
They, the little things they used to do every Christmas or holiday season, they can't do anymore where they're like, I can't be on my feet that long.
I can't make the cake this way anymore.
It's, it's sad.
I'm worried.
I'm stressed.
And both of your grandparents are already dead.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I watched my grandma die.
oh did you
did you tell us about that
yeah she's all jaundiced
from the cancer and just dying
like a bird she's like 90 pounds
she's so weak and she was just like I love you
Kyle I love you
you're my number one grandson
what are you doing
I'm laughing
is she laughing in my dead grandma's story
the way you describe it is just so
I was laughing at something
else that happened in the
something else happened and I laughed at it
but what was another thing
she's just crazy this show
she was she's dying of the cancer laying there in bed
just just you know we were both crying a lot
just like telling her I loved her
and she was she was like you're my number one grandson
tomorrow and the grandson she's like love you so much
I love you so much and then she died
cancer
I tell my kids that all the time.
They've grown up their whole lives here and they're my favorite daughter and my favorite son.
Yeah, that was her little joke.
Yeah, she was even my number one grandson.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Yeah, she was awesome.
You're in my top two grandmas.
Well, I think there was only one.
That was the best part.
No, I had the other one.
The other one died, and I didn't care at all.
My dad's mom, when she died, it was like,
Do we have to go to the funeral?
Like, do we just, like, do I even have to go?
I don't like that lady.
She was lame.
But my mom's mom was great.
I hung out with her, like, most weekends growing up, I would be at her house because I was
so hard to handle.
And, um, and we would just watch, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger movies, Sigourney
Weaver movies, uh, watch wrestling with my papa and stuff like that.
So that was a real formative part of my childhood was spending every weekend with her.
She, she partially raised me.
All right.
That's why I hurt so much when Taylor laughed at her.
at her dying words.
Didn't even laugh.
I laughed at a different thing.
I only smirked it in laughing.
Oh, I understood, Goblin.
You were just fine what you did.
Yeah, Goblin, you're okay.
I just want you know, Goblin, that you are fine.
I really appreciate that.
I saw a couple of jokesters in the corner of my room and laughed at that.
Oh, okay, okay.
Would never, oh my God.
Did you think I let?
Oh.
You thought I laughed at your grandmother.
It seemed like you were laughing at her and like...
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
You know, it was right around the time I mentioned how jaundiced she was from the organ failure that you really cracked up.
I noticed.
That's horrible.
I would never laugh at her old, her old ass yellow self.
Jesus.
She was very yellow.
Is she a little yellow?
It was really upsetting to see someone you, you'd love your life, all yellow and dying.
Yeah.
We're not going to make fun of Sponge.
Bob Grandma at all.
No. I'm going to stay away from it.
Stay away from it. It's tasteless.
Did you think of the Simpsons?
You know, I was like,
even once.
Yeah. No disrespect. No disrespect.
A little. A little. I was like, she kind of like
a moleman at the end, Hans Moleman.
She had a little bit of that.
That's a very funny character for her to go out of us.
Oh, like, yeah. I was thinking Mr. Burns, but I guess.
Oh, no.
I was watching The Simpsons just the other day.
It's a moleman episode, and he's like, he's like pinned under a car.
And like, and he's like, oh, someone will come.
And you hear, and wolves show up.
And they're like, oh, wonderful rescue dogs.
Like, it's always the worst thing imaginable happening, the poor Hans Molman.
I love Hans Mullman.
He might be one of the funniest characters of any show.
I know Simpsons is gay and it hasn't.
Mr. Burns was huffing ether and he was confused and he thought,
that he was about to get a power drill
and start drilling into the moment's head.
And Hans was like,
Oh, no.
My brains.
Getting drilled into.
What's the holiday plans, Woody?
Is there a big guy?
I don't even know.
I don't know.
We're not going anywhere tomorrow,
but like, I don't know.
Do we have,
I am delightfully not a part of this problem.
Sure.
They'll handle it.
So one of two things will happen.
No, that'd be after Thanksgiving.
And tree, singular, you're adorable.
The,
either Hope and Hope's at the same boyfriend for, I don't know, like three years now,
either those two will come over tomorrow or we'll do some sort of like
makeup Thanksgiving this weekend.
I don't know which.
Do you know if it's going to be like turkey or ham or?
It's always turkey.
It's got to be turkey.
Can't go ham sucks, dude.
Worst form of pig made.
I did a heart.
We've had a big ham on Thanksgiving and Christmas, but only is an additional option.
Yeah.
Yeah, it should be an addendum to the meal.
If it's all pork, all ham, I'm fucking pissed.
Do you like pineapple on the ham?
Do you like a pineapple?
I don't want super sweet ham.
No.
I do.
People who put down pineapple on ham don't understand that things in life can be good.
Sweet and savory.
Sweet and savory.
Pineette, I do the whole thing, just like the cartoons.
I want the rings of pineapple
with the cherry in the middle
and then the toothpicks stuck in
and then you score the entire outside
smother it in brown sugar
and then wrap that bitch up tight
with aluminum foil
and let all those flavors bake in
and then you've got all that juice at the bottom
that's a mixture of pork drippings
brown sugar pineapple and cherry juice
and you just spoon that shit over the top
that's a good ham
that's good ham that's a good ham
but it's still ham it's not great
did goblin say what he was doing for Thanksgiving
me.
I haven't yet.
No.
What are you doing?
I was originally going to fly home to see my parents,
you know,
go see my mom and grandma and all that.
But I had to move that to Christmas.
So we delayed that to Christmas.
I mentioned that.
I was filming my podcast the other day.
And my producer says to me,
he's like,
my girl's really good at cooking and we're going to her parents' house.
If you guys want to come.
So I'm going to my producer's girlfriend's mom's house.
And they make,
Filipino food only, so I have no idea what I'm in for.
And what I was told in advance is that her mom barely speaks English, and she streams
her singing karaoke on TikTok live, and they're going to want us to sing on that.
So, I'm going to be singing tomorrow and getting drunk and, you know, eating some food
that I don't know what it's going to be yet.
You know what?
Hit us with a few bars of Don't Stop Believing, just so we understand what they're in for.
dude don't spend it don't spend it for yeah for free dude
is this your first time meeting the mom yes dude I haven't even
met I give you a tip yeah maybe maybe learn just how to
say in Filipino thank you for welcoming
welcoming you into your into your home I like
I bet that one that'll go so far that she'll she'll fucking
she'll love that I didn't I had to look at
or just wing it be like
I only have to do not understand what do he's like that
I do not to understand what do he said
I only have to do that with the mom
because from what he's told me
she's a mail order bride for the dad
who has a lot of money
so like should be good
you know
how old is she
no clue much younger than him for my understanding
yeah that he's like like very old
and she's like
I don't know, I mean, sounds like maybe
maybe 50s.
Sounds like he's a pussy getting guy.
I want to transition to mail order brides now.
Taylor,
what are your thoughts on this?
Because I have often thought that like,
like worst case scenario,
it seems like a terrible idea.
Best case scenario,
it seems like an incredible idea,
the idea of getting one of these trad wives
from a foreign country who's like
only more about the refund policy.
Someone with low standards, right?
Woody,
take your fingers when you.
you're contemplating.
It's a good look.
So she shows up and she sees
your CRV and she's blown the
fuck away, dude. She's like, can I
wash it for you, please? Like, that's
her attitude when she sees the Honda.
Well, that seems positive. Yeah.
Yeah. She's like blown away.
I was describing a woman with low
standards. No, no. I'm describing
a woman from fucking the Philippines
who's like has walked barefoot
everywhere she's ever gone. It's just a grounded woman
is what that is.
Sure.
that's a word for it
I'm sorry. Oh, you want a slave
is like what
Well, I'm not going to pay her
That's certainly not
No, she is being here in America
Tell me what the difference between a wife and a slave is
Like, like exactly
Like less fiduciary responsibilities
If something goes south
I wouldn't kiss my slave
What
Well, that's not necessarily true
That would depend on where
you are. I'm telling me fundamentally. What the core differences between, you know, I can come up with a
prenuptial agreement or, or live in a country that has men's rights and you can just get, you know,
she's out of my house now. You know, if you had gone through your divorce in Iran, I promise you,
easy, peasy, lemon, squeezy, get the rocks, boys. Like, that's how. You mean I could have saved
$20,000 by just being Iranian? How's your throwing arm? How's your throwing arm? That's what the judge would have
asked you.
I'd have been like I'm feeling up to my old form to tossing that rock.
Right down the middle.
No, you know, a wife seems to be someone who has legally bound to you.
And if you go by like, I mean, just what's said at weddings, you know, she's there to be
have and just kind of your servant, you know, if you look at like traditional ways to look at
that thing, she's property, essentially.
so I don't know what the difference between a traditional marriage
and I'm not talking about like 1950s marriage
as much as I'm talking about 1850s and prior marriages
for sure
but also they say stuff like like women are good at driving
and it's like cut it out
some are some are good at driving
like are they really so are they really
or are they just better than you expect
here's here's how I like classified drivers
as good or bad and it's it's pretty subjective obviously
but it's whether I can take a nap in the passenger seat while you're driving and just fall asleep and feel perfectly comfortable and like not worried about you.
Like I don't need to watch.
You would fall asleep in a car with a woman driving?
That's crazy.
Some women drivers, yes.
I had a girlfriend who was like a really good driver.
Like she was as I think everybody thinks they're a good driver.
I am one of those people.
Some of us are right.
Here's the thing.
Everybody thinks they're a good driver.
Some of us are fucking right.
And I'm one of those people.
people. I'm a good fucking driver. And she was also a good fucking driver. I would see her like
anticipating the problem, not just reacting to it. She was like, oh, in like 15 seconds,
that's going to be a problem. She's getting over. She's slowing down in time. She's doing
limousine stops. There's not this herky jerky thing. The brakes on her car aren't
perpetually squeaking because she wears them out in three weeks. Like, she's a good fucking driver.
But then I've had girlfriends where I'm like, my feet are in the passenger floorboard pressing so hard into the mat.
You push so hard on the floor.
So hard into the mat.
Like hundreds of pounds of pressure.
Like I'm fucking doing like fucking Olympic rows like trying to brace myself for an inevitable impact.
I was thinking about Kyle sleeping while she drives test.
It doesn't work for me because my wife is a bad driver, right?
She hits things that are stationary.
I've seen.
A lot.
Right?
But I sleep while she's driving.
And it's because I'm comfortable with danger.
Right?
I sleep right through that shit.
The prospect of death isn't disturbing to you, the way it is to a lot of other.
Everybody else's problem.
I've been in the car with Jackie driving one time in my entire life.
She immediately hit something.
What did she hit?
A wall.
Well, there's probably something.
A wall made of landscaping.
you know for the birds
impossible to miss
I don't when I say immediately
yeah
oh it was in a drive
so it was in a familiar place
where you had driven
we didn't make it into the road
before she hit a thing
and it was like
and I'm like
fucking can I get both seat belts
in the back seat
did she do the girl thing
where afterwards she's like
it's fine
like yeah
and kept snowy or something
there was something
that she found distracting
it was a sunny day
I remember, I remember it was great weather.
It was, it was, the whole, the whole weekend was really nice weather.
It was the spring.
I remember a little, I remember that.
I remember we went to like a roadhouse or, or something like that,
some sort of like medium level steakhouse or something like that.
And A, I remember like having a hard time getting there and being afraid.
She crashed into our garage door once and then told me, in my defense,
it was beautiful out.
like she was distracted by nice things
yeah she's got the perfect car for it too
it was that uh like toyota
SUV yeah yeah it was like
yeah this is a car that can take some knocks
and a little bumps into
oh yeah some little toy like a little sedan
she needed running boards we didn't fix them by the time
we traded that thing in
they were crooked and the lights came off
but no back in the mail order bride thing
I think this is a
if you're going to get
Where would you get your Mueller to bribe from?
Would you go Russian or would you go,
or would you go Asian?
Russian, Asian, South American.
Okay.
Now, don't just think, like, which we were more attracted to.
You have to keep this marriage up
throughout her green card process or risk that she liked.
Or risk immigration fraud charges.
I'm just going to think about what I find attractive
because it's going to be a disaster relationship regardless.
So I'm going to go, I'm going to go Eastern European.
You're giving it up already.
I mean.
Giving it up.
already. It's going to be, she's going to hate me.
I'm really, why Eastern
European, because they're hot.
I think they're attractive, yeah. A blonde
Eastern European gal. Huge mistake.
So each of Europeans are very attractive.
I agree with that. The problem is
all the Russians I've known are
don't say that.
All the Russians are
emotional monsters.
They yell about everything.
It's just fight mode
constantly.
No Russians.
I'm thinking Japanese.
They seem sweet.
I think it's hard to get a Japanese girl.
I think they have more options.
I think that's a first world country.
I think you have to go into like the Philippines and like maybe Thailand.
Yeah, that's the whole reason the industry exists.
Yeah, I think I think I don't, I bet there aren't a lot of Koreans, for example,
because I think of South Korea is a very first world, like wealthy nation.
Get them from north.
Now, you get one of North Korea.
They are skinny.
Those girls can wear a swim suit.
But I think the problem with if you get this Eastern European male or bride
She's had cable her whole life
Like they've got so she knows what what like wealthy Americans actually have
And she's gonna be over here thinking like
Where is condo? Where is your condo? Where is American sports car? Taylor
Taylor, buy me diamond. Taylor, buy me miko
Taylor you're not big American man I thought you have dollar
I hate her already problem
Yeah, oh, but she's like, she's beautiful, though.
Yeah, but she sounds like that.
Yeah, it was a video call, no audio, just only text.
That's toughen.
Yeah, no, I think I would definitely go like Asian.
I think I would go like Southeast Asian.
I think they're hardworking, they're industrious.
I don't know how to say low expectations in a good way, but that's what I'm,
I'm looking for someone who's blown away by the basis.
they're like right
so you're looking at like rice paddy
style gals see I don't want that
so I want someone who like
isn't going to be shocked by electricity
but is going to be blown away
when I take them to a like a museum
or the movies like we go to a movie theater
and it's like holy shit
like wow
like you know like that's what you're
looking for someone to be blown away by moving
pictures but like an IMAX theater
like a modern like American nice
theater yeah maybe
I want her to be
You could grab some Laotian, pop her in the car, she'll be blown away.
I feel like that's...
That'd be even better because they have no access to the sea,
so you could show her the ocean and then she'd be blown away by that.
How does a Brazilian strike you?
Right?
There's some real poverty in Brazil.
That's what my dad's done.
They seem like...
My dad had some Brazilian chick living in his house for a while
that was like 35 years younger than him or something like that.
that. I think that was going well for him. I guess it. Yeah, yeah, I think it ended poorly. I think he
had to repossess your dad was getting pussy from a 40-year-old Brazilian gal. Yep, yep. That's kind of how
he rolls, apparently. Yeah, every time I talk to him, he's like, yeah, it was a good one that lasted,
but it's sourd. And meanwhile, he's so based, he's like, yeah, I've watched the first 14 minutes
of every Netflix show
and I've never seen an episode.
He has no idea how to navigate Hulu.
God bless his soul.
But he's figured out Tinder.
I promise you that.
That's how you know.
Motivation.
Pussy will make an old man learn how to use an app.
And that's all you have to say about the power of pussy
because that man,
he doesn't understand what an app is or what Hulu is.
He doesn't get the difference between like Samsung is the TV.
and Roku is the streaming device
and Hulu is the app
like they're all the same thing.
I don't know idea.
Have you seen that funny video?
It's called YouTube.
It's a gas.
It's like, no, I think you're close.
But yeah, I think he had her,
I know he had her living with him
and he had bought her a used car.
He had got her like a 2012
SUV of some kind.
And he had to repossess that.
He had to send some people to go get
that back, apparently.
But he's been made whole now, and apparently
nothing went missing. She repatriated
back to Brazil, I think
probably because of some Trump stuff,
unfortunately.
She had to leave.
That worked out for your dad.
Yeah. Yeah, it usually
does. But although... You better
get out of here. It's getting real.
You know what you're the fuck out.
He probably called I-N-S-owner.
Call fucking I-s-S honor.
I tell everybody I know
like join ice
get in while the getting's good
and get this money
it just seems like a no brainer
would you do it if you were 21
and like you didn't necessarily have
like a career path in mind
all right let's take you back
to the car rental place right
my job I know you hated
and and didn't
obviously it wasn't going to be like a career
you didn't want to be your manager
and if ICE had happened then
and they're like $50,000 signing bonus
100% I do it
100%
Yeah I would have been like
This job is dead end
I can at least
Get more money
Doing whatever the fuck
They want me to do
And then I would just silently hope
That like
They really did want me
To stand on a street corner
And do nothing
No they're gonna want you
That would be like
I'm gonna sign up
Huge bonus
Stand on a street corner
Wear some fucking cool
Punisher mask
Bada bada bhaum
that's what you do
if I could join right now
I would just for the stories for the show
like if I want a fucking felon
I would absolutely join ice right now
just so you can't come back
no
they have standards
I would think it would be kind of like
a bit of a suicide squad thing
where they would want you
yeah
where they would want you in the mix
making some decisions
they'd be like
no he's going to trust him
look if I were running
things i would also want me in the mix i've got ideas taylor i've got big ideas you know i could i could
increase the amount of people that were rounding up big time all right i think it needs to be a reality
show like right away i want a reality show that's based around ice that's like cops but it's but obviously
you get the producer's going to cherry pick we're going to film for a month and we're going to
and and and we're going to cherry pick the worst up we're going to make ice look good
make them look like heroes you're going to have that one part you if you watch old cops you know
the camera's there and some guy driving it's night time you can see him lit by the dashboard he's
like yeah i've been a cop for three years i just wanted to serve my community after i got back from
the war and i got to say it's it's rewarding you know you see the effect you have on people's lives
and and uh you do some good and then the place where you live and that means a lot to me
like you get those moments with the ice guys you let it would be an incredible recruiting tool
and tell me you wouldn't love to watch some fucking night vision ice raids
running into fucking uh the suburbs of chicago chasing them through alleys thermal drones these
illegals are pretty quick though you know the theme and you get vanilla i i i want to tie vanilla
brown boys brown boys what you're gonna do oh right i mean that's be how it works i want ice ice baby
i want that to be the theme song when it comes on yeah i i think i feel like i don't care that
it's an old song i think it's still it's still rocks and it's just too perfect for ice
it's solid that's a great song i'm so curious dude i've been wondering this whole time
what on earth are your guys's demographics on this show because like some of the things that
you guys discuss if i went on my show and like had the immigration conversation i'd have to post
an apology video i think it's men in their 20s and people that used to be men
President and former men in their 20s and maybe early 30s.
But yeah, that is funny where so many other YouTubers are like, I have to apologize
for what I said.
And we're like, no, those people are fucking gay faggots.
We don't care.
Like, just being, being.
Yeah, I think mostly our audience knows that we're just trying to entertain them.
And like, they've seen, they've known us for long enough to know that we're not actually
awful people.
We're just having a good time for the most part, I think.
I was saying, you know, a little bit of call me, a little column B, I guess, but
yeah, I'm not apologizing for anything I fucking say.
Like, we're just having a good time.
I'm sure I've said things that upset people.
If anybody I cared about was ever like, hey, I was watching the show last night,
you said this thing about this group of people and, like, I'm one of those people,
and it actually hurt my feelings.
I feel really bad and I'd apologize, but that's never happened once.
Yeah.
It's never once happened.
And I, like, I think a couple years ago, like, I sang the N-word on the show or something.
Like, like, you, we get away with a decent amount just by, I guess, not giving, not caring as much, not listening to the feedback.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just don't care.
It really doesn't matter.
And, yeah.
And you shouldn't read, this is an old Sam Hyde lesson, but it applies to people who are in the space.
It's like, don't read comments about yourself ever, positive, negative, does not matter.
because whether it's overwhelmingly negative or positive,
it will create a narcissist.
It will make you think you're bigger than you are,
make you think you're more present in the everyday life.
Especially when it's something like what we're doing,
that's no personality base.
So you never do that.
If we were doing tech reviews, it's a different story.
But what we're doing here is a lot more like personality.
It's more silly.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I'm going to look into the Southeast Asian bride then.
I'm glad you guys chipped in on that conversation.
I'm going to get right on that.
I wouldn't just gloss over the Brazilians.
You know what?
I was going to say America myself, too.
You know, I don't want to sound racist here.
But I'm worried that those Brazilians,
there might be a criminal element involved, you know?
They love your mail order bride operation, for real?
Well, that's legal.
There's nothing, you know, that those are just matchmakers, okay?
That's all that's about, you know?
Like, they're, they're, they're just linking up.
they're just linking up
dudes like you and 14 year olds
oh well none of they're underage
where did that come from
oh my god Woody how dare you
it always goes back to pedophilia
with this guy's you got it you got a one
oh with this guy huh yeah right
Minecraft server huh
interesting interesting that's an
I'll put the rumors to rest
what's your preferred penis age
oh
what is
preferred penis age
is that the age of the dude
or how long she's been active
how old the women are he likes
to fuck and
I never heard the term before
yeah no no underaged women
I just I just know you know
just want to mail order them
they come in a little box do you think
or do they like fly over
no they come in a like one of those
freight things on a boat
they probably just draft them yeah yeah
they called crates
You're talking about shipping containers.
Oh, that's a different kind of mail order.
That's a mail order slave.
Well, that's what they all are, isn't it?
I mean, what did I buy?
They don't grow on trees, Kyle.
I get the cheap kind.
I don't think.
So, so realistically, I don't think that the mail order bride chicks are just like,
like you pick them off the shelf like, you know, an item you want.
And they're like, yeah, you bought me.
I think there's like some matchmaking and like, they're not slaves.
going to have to agree to have this romantic relationship with you and agree to be your wife.
And I think they're doing some picking and choosing as well.
Like they may, when they find out you live in Florida, they may be like, ooh, that's actually
no good for me because my family lives on the West Coast.
I'm really looking for a husband who at least lives like on the western side of the United
States.
Like there might be some deal breakers for them.
Maybe they don't like an arranged marriage.
Like an arranged marriage.
Nothing wrong with that either.
I think the arranged marriage thing
is probably the way to go.
Actually, I
kind of, so
Indians have arranged marriage. At least
everyone I work with it. Yeah, and they're killing.
Literally 100% of them.
And it seemed like their marriages
were every bit as successful as
American marriages, on average,
maybe more so. And
the way it works like this
is like they come home for
these long vacations. Like, I'm taking three
weeks off work and they come back with a bride.
selected because the parents have lined up a couple candidates and everyone's sort of hoping
and pressuring that they find a match. By and large, the women are hoping to be picked but can
also reject and the men are picking but can also get rejected. But it's usually one saying
please, please and the other saying, hmm, I'm not sure. And they go on a date or two and
agree after
knowing each other for a week?
Your thoughts on later.
I love it.
And the parents
know this other family.
They've known these kids like during
their formative ages. They have like
the wisdom of an old
person who's like, you know what? I kind of
know what she's going to be like as a wife.
And I think she'd be a good one.
And they make matches
that are, that have the benefit
of the wisdom of like 50,
60 years on earth as opposed to 23.
Yeah, I've seen similar instances of arranged marriages working out better.
And then also, like, for what it's worth, like, not only have family members seemingly
done some research and made sure this is going to be a decent match and a decent, like,
family, but also, I guess the idea is that your bride hasn't been hoaring around for the last
15 years on the open market
you know that's huge
in India now the culture there
changes really fast but
I mean
I think all the women I knew
from India were virgins when they got married
as far as you know yes
oh no we we check
you pop a finger in
I pop a finger in
you see if there's a
because the only thing
I'm 100% sure that Indians
like is grabbing live wires
above trains. Oh,
you have not seen their littering
expertise in person because I've been watching
they, I've said it before.
They treat the environment
as though it owes them money. They hate
Indians
de-spies
rivers.
Indians can were like, yeah,
you think you got one over on me,
you fucking forgot. I throw
all of my batteries in you.
It burns batteries in their backyard.
That's what they fucking do, dude.
I keep seeing clips of, like, trains in India,
and it's not the people on the top grabbing the live wires.
It's like the conductor cleaning up the train car,
and he, like, gets this big pile of trash.
That was on the floor, by the way.
The floor is, like, covered in trash, like a movie theater
if he didn't clean it for a month.
And he's just, like, sweeping it all out the door of the train
as they go as they travel and just, like, trash,
just like, and I've saw it.
different video where he just like takes the like bag of trash that he's accumulated right out the side of
the tree. Just like it's I think it's confirmed. Like when they when an Indian sees a tree he has
nothing but vitriol in his heart. You guys are making it on the individual level but it's like on
the corporate level too like industrial waste dumping into rivers and stuff like that. Yeah and I mean
that isn't that like the little stat where it's like the
amount of plastic going into oceans it's almost all india bangladesh pakistan china and the rest of
the world is like you know we're kind of like getting the handle on this a bit like but those guys
just don't care yeah that's that's philippines do i think they're bit they're bad on it that's why i
don't like it when we when we when we handicap ourselves when we when we uh handicap ourselves with
those regulations when our competitors are how can our industries compete without dumping waste in our
rivers. Well, like, I just
want to draw the line somewhere. Like,
don't get me wrong. I, I don't want
to dump waste from the rivers, but
I don't know about, like,
carbon emissions, like, because I haven't
I'm one of those people
who doesn't quite believe.
Why don't you have a conversation with Chad GPT
about it?
Maybe later, you know, but
for now, I'm just having a hard time
believing that man-made climate change is
that, like,
impactful on
on the whole thing because it just seems like
we plan it constantly going through
epochs of cooling and warming
forever. Dude, if we could change
it, we would make it nicer
outside.
We are, aren't we?
And they get,
depends where you're from.
Yeah, that's where you're from. I guess so.
Yeah.
I could go with a 10 degree warmer
tilt. You're going to want to move
south. Not here.
No, no snow.
feels nice.
Kyle, you wouldn't want a 10 degree warmer tilt, right?
Hot land is not. No, people would die.
No, that's it. A million people
would fucking die.
It would be a problem if the
if the average temperature
went up by 10 degrees, we would all fucking die.
Yeah, like we'd go from like
eight or nine good months a year to
one or two.
Oh, well, okay, well,
here in North Carolina anyway.
I'm reneging on my good idea.
I, I, I,
you've been topped in Kyle's pronunciation.
He proved it to me and I follow the law.
I follow the law of pronunciation and Kyle only had to prove it to me four times.
Yeah.
That was the actual pronunciation.
Yeah.
You have to be right.
I am right.
No, I don't want to poison the water in the trees and all that stuff.
I don't want to hack and slash the forest or anything, but the air is fine.
Well, to a degree, like it depends what we're putting into the air.
I don't mind so much about like carbon dioxide
But but I don't want like just literally burning cult
Like you ever see those pictures of
Like England back in the Industrial Revolution
The early early 1900s when it's just black soot everywhere
Like just if you watch Mary Poppins
You know, it's just like part of the culture was like
Yeah our city's just covered in soot
I don't want that
Put a filter on that shit though you know
don't stop burning the coal
like burn that coal
I always say this about oil
coal all that stuff
we're going to burn it all
it's all going to get burnt
there's never going to be a point where people are like
ah it just it costs more money
to dig that out of the ground
than it's worth to burn
that'll never happen it just won't
it'll all get burnt before that happens
we could go in nuclear mode
I was just going to say we should not bring up the charge
you should do nuclear that's what makes the most sense
look up cost per kilowatt
and then we can talk about regulations
and we can do the fucking circle jerk again
about nuclear power
yeah sure
and if we ever figure out
thermal fusion energy then
then that'll work too
but we haven't yet
so for now and the foreseeable future
it is cheaper to dig that shit out of the ground
than burn it and burn it than to do anything else
it's not for real cheaper
like it's cheaper to have a running
nuclear power plant
than it is for any of this.
It's just,
it is so restricted by regulations.
And then at the same time,
you have solar,
which is bolstered by subsidies,
that then they take those endgame costs and go,
oh, wow,
solar's basically free.
And it's like,
yeah,
but not really,
because it's subsidized enormously.
Like I said,
it's just a circle jerk about regulations
and how strict those regulations should be.
And in the end,
while I would love it if nuclear energy was everywhere,
and there was a,
there was a reactor in every small town.
like I don't know enough about the safety protocols of nuclear reactors to do that.
I do know that we've had like three serious nuclear reactor incidents in my lifetime, I think,
that were like scary and a real worry from Chernobyl and Three Mile Island and then...
Oh, how many people died from Three Mile Island?
None because it worked out.
But it was pretty borderline there.
It was right there in New Jersey.
right? Is it in New Jersey, maybe?
Okay, I knew it was northwest.
Somewhere on the East Coast.
Yeah.
But then, you know, Chernobyl, you watched the documentary
or the limited series, like,
came pretty close to poisoning the entire continent,
you know, and it killed tens of thousands.
Yeah, but those were communists.
We're better at it.
Not all of them.
We just need to remove the regulations
to make it cheap, and then we won't have to be.
Explain the Japanese, then, because the, and I get...
What do you mean?
I'm talking about Fukushima,
and then their reactor meltdown.
down. Wow, they just needed to
have a couple more boys on the ball
you know, that's
anyway, like, like
yeah, you see, and again,
less regulations to lower the prices.
Yeah, make sure they're on the ball.
Things that happen everywhere else.
Yeah, it'll be good. Dude, this is
literally, and nuclear power is subsidized.
Abandoning nuclear power
is like
a caveman. It's not being a man. He's built a reactor here in Georgia.
It's like a caveman burning his
hand on a fire.
And then all of cavemen being like, better be safe.
No fire.
It's like, no, we, we figured out how to, how to make magic rocks boil water and get free energy.
Isn't that crazy?
So we just do it.
So I think Georgia is the newest reactor in the country.
It took them, there's seven years over budget.
They're seven years late, 17 billion over cost.
It went live in 23.
Well, that's probably not because of actual cost.
It's because of fucking corruption and nonsense.
what do you want me to do about that though that's that's baked in you're like ah that's nothing to
deal with nuclear energy like like then if that is the baked in presupposition then who gives
a fuck make whatever energy you want it's a fact it's it's it's it's it's black and white go uh put
i like the idea of the magic rocks with lenses i like the idea that the magic rocks boil water
and make us endless basically free energy i like that a lot they ever figure out fusion that
that'll break the mold.
How far are we?
I'd like it a lot more if it wasn't
potentially dangerous
and the most expensive source of energy.
How far are we down?
It takes so long to get it online.
You need power.
Nuclear will be here in 2045
or something outrageous like that.
Nuclear also is the highest
efficiency once it's set up.
It's the most
human energy per kilowatt.
This is almost like that argument
that like communism
is great, except that it's never been great anywhere.
Nuclear is cheap, except that it's never been cheap anywhere.
I think it can be cheap.
I think we can figure out a way.
I think communism can work.
Like, you guys really think nuclear energy isn't the future?
You think windmills and big panels in Kansas is the future, not nuclear?
Fusion energy may be, because it's incredibly safe.
It would be incredibly safe, but they haven't figured how to do it.
figured out to do it. Those reactions last for
brief periods of time and you need
a sustained reaction. And
what the funny part is, I saw someone in Reddit
posting this the other day. They're like, so
when we finally do figure
out fusion energy, it's not just going to
be boiling water again, is it?
And they're like, yeah, it's going to be
boiling water. It'll be boiling water
better than you could ever imagine.
The best water.
It's just steam turbines
getting spun by heated water
using the magic rocks. That's all that it is. That's
why there's no reason to be I've never understood why they can't use currents and like so I grew up on an island and next to each island was an inlet when when the ocean rises the bay fills up and there is so much moving water it's an outrageous amount of energy and it's based on moon cycles it's predictable it's constant it never like wears out it it it's forever so long as the moon orbits the earth this thing will keep going and I'm like why is this not a good energy source like a lot of people live on the coast why can't
yet we put a propeller in the Mississippi River. I saw the Mississippi River. That thing is
raging. It is so much more extreme than people who haven't seen it might guess. And I'm like,
why can't you put some propellers in there? They do. A harness. Well, not enough. I didn't see
any. Clearly. Like, why is moving water not a better energy source? Tides rising and falling seem
like a tremendous amount of energy that can be
harnessed. Maybe I'm biased because I'm from the
coast. The Tides thing,
I watched a YouTube video on it where
and this isn't
poo-poo. It's just the tech isn't there
yet where the amount
of energy it took to maintain these
things and salt water was higher than the amount
they were outputting. But that
doesn't mean forever
that's off the table. It just means
they haven't quite tweaked it.
Just picture a big floating thing
with enough gearing to spin whatever
you know magnet inside of copper you need and it'll spin it really quick and it'll get lifted
right and gears can be altered so that it like spins easily when at high tide and low tide it
almost stays still before it reverses direction um you could just change the gearing to take advantage
of whether you're zipping through the middle of the tide or kind of paused at the top or the
bottom I don't know why this isn't like obvious limitless source of energy but I guess it's not
here's the way to do other things where they put like almost like a side
submarine underwater and it catches you know through the propellers it goes by and they just found
that oceans were a really expensive environment to operate from everyone working there commuting to it
you know you just you want to weld something 10x the cost by putting it underwater like it's it's a
thing so i get that but it seems like it's limitless and clean what did kyle find solar energy is
the future if you ask me like once we burn all the stuff solar energy is definitely the way
there's a gigantic
we're trying to figure out fusion energy
there is a gigantic fusion
energy reactor
like floating
oh is it the sun
right at it yeah
it's shooting
enormous amounts of energy
onto our planet
the thing about the sun is that it's just
so it's so endlessly fascinating
with how it brings you this
energy but it's not
it's not entirely in line with
the sort of
solar's the future. The panels keep getting better. The panels keep getting better. The battery technology keeps getting better. And the transfer technology keeps getting better. It's going to keep getting more efficient, cheaper to make panels. And it's just going to be the move. And when Elon Musk talks about covering some spot in New Mexico or Arizona with like, you know, some hundred square mile portion and powering the country, I don't know why we don't do it. Because like, fucking boring company and his self-driving cars. Goblin. Huh.
solar power gay or not gay
I mean I'm team nuclear for sure
so like yeah I'd say it's pretty gay
I'm so glad you pronounce it right gay as hell
nuclear is the future
goblin and I know you guys can catch up
I pronounce nuclear carefully now
Kyle has be on edge every time it comes up
It's pronounced nuclear
I'm like I'll be watching a TV show
and like the national security advisor
and this TV show says nuclear
and I'm like, okay, bro, all right.
Like, no one caught this?
Like, I have a pet peeve about technical advisors and movies and TV shows when, like,
you could have spent just a little bit of money to figure out how a gun works or how, like,
night vision works or how like a car, like just basic shit works so that you wouldn't make
half your audience people.
Bragles working through windows.
Sure, little things, you know, that are just annoying like that.
I've been watching that Homeland Show, I think, that's about terrorism.
stuff. That's a great show. I'm in the fourth season now and I can tell it's getting a little weird.
Half the cast is dead now. More than half. That is awesome. Well, you might like Homeland then
because in the first season, if you took that, if you looked at the cast of characters and then
you pass forward to the third or maybe the fourth season, it's like, fuck. All right, well, that person
lived and, oh yeah, he's still alive and, well, they tortured that guy to death. He's,
he's no longer with us and then they're like oh yeah all of those people die it's like at least
half maybe three quarters of the cast they didn't make it they didn't make it through the the
world in walking dead six times a show they get snuck up on by random zombies in the woods
but two or three times a year they die and anyone could die to it you know how carl died
random fucking zombie snuck up on him like wasn't minding his own business he was out i was off
gallivatin with that ugly girl trying to help
her or something. I think he was trying
to help the doctor person
Sadiq or something like that.
In any case, did this happen?
I'm sorry? How late into the show
did this happen? I stopped watching it like season
six. Not six. No, it would have been
post-Negan, I think. Yeah, five was
Negan, I thought. You left to the good time.
Negan was introduced in six. Yeah, I stopped
like before Negan for sure.
Okay. But yeah, yeah,
Carl dies. He gets bit like in the lower
rib cage by like a random zombie that wasn't like particularly like they've been in worse spots
before and that's carl he was like season one episode one character yeah rick died to a bridge
explosion um well they blew up the bridge to separate like a big horde of zombies from everyone else
i could go on and on but the point is core people in that show died which means that this time
the 9,000th time a random zombie
sneaks up on someone, you're like, you know, he's not
that safe. He's not that safe.
In this Homeland
show, like I said, I'm into the fourth season now. I think there might be
eight. Like, this is a long-running popular show
apparently that I just never watched. I think it was
on Cinemax or Showtime or something.
But I don't want to spoil
exactly, but one of the
the carl of this show
just got hung
in the last episode. And I was like,
I bet a snobber's going to shoot that row.
Nope. I bet Seale Team 6 is going to come and fucking shut this shit down.
They'll scoop him up the night before.
And then they hang that motherfucker.
And I'm like, he's faking it.
I bet he's going to wake up and he's going to be like,
and they're like, we slowed your heart rate to almost imperceptible levels
and snuck you into Pakistan.
No.
The next episode's happened.
And they're like, yeah, it's a shame that the main character died in the last episode,
huh?
And everybody's like, yeah, that sucked.
it's fucking dead he's done
dude that's so good
no one's safe it's so good that no one's safe
because just like if that was john
snow they would have shot
the rope out or possibly
they would have let him die and brought
him back for no fucking reason
I
plot armor ruins
TV shows and I like it when they kill
important people I'm gonna watch
I just had like a contract dispute
with him they're like let's just fucking hang him
quite possibly yeah
I know in Walking Dead contracts
or even just personality disputes
were part of the reason characters died
especially season two
but like Frank Darabond
I think is the guy who
it was like the creator showrunner for season one
then they cut his budget
ordered twice as many episodes for season two
and then he made his exit after that I think
and he took all of his like
the actors who worked
with him a lot. So if you watch the movie like The Mist, which I think is also Frank Deribon,
great movie. It's got the blonde, I forget Walking Dead characters, but there was the older guy
with the beard who was always fixing the Winnebago. That's Dale. Dale is one of Frank
Deribon's guys, one of his always in his projects. And then the chick whose mouth was always
a gape that we hated. Andrea, another one of his like actors. And so when he left,
when he was like, you're not going to pay me,
you're not going to keep cutting her budget,
you're not going to let me run the show the way I want I'm leaving.
Those actors went with him.
That's why they subsequently got killed off really fast.
And I thought the show got worse at that.
I thought season two was one of the worst seasons in the whole show
when they were just spinning their tires at that.
When I think when they got to the prison,
that was some good stuff.
And then post-prisoned whenever they go to Terminus,
I felt that they blew their load too early with Terminus.
Terminus is such a good storyline
that it felt like it should have been.
then I almost wish that the bad guys at Terminus had gotten away and like come back a year or two later.
There'd been more, and they've had this history.
Like, I almost wish that had happened because I, you immediately hate the Terminus people.
Like, they're cannibalistic murderers and, and you just want, they're slaughtering people like cattle.
And then Rick has got so many, Rick is just fearless for no reason.
It's like, you read the script.
Yeah, he goes.
they got him like bent over the like blood trough and they're like hitting people with bats cutting
throats and he's just like you're big trouble mister it's like what are you talking about
bend over dude let's get this over with the only reason you're alive right now is because you're
third in line yeah but you're right the terminus stuff was some really fertile fertile soil that
they didn't get the most from on the other hand the savior stuff which is the negin stuff
was also really fertile soil, and they just ruined it.
They took it so long.
They made it like a two-year fight.
It was boring.
And it was, it was, it was bad writing, and it's, it's, it's, like, the show is full of talent.
Don't get me wrong.
And the core, like, the comic, the source material is amazing.
But somebody there is, is way more concerned with making money than they are with telling a good story.
Somebody is making that decision to, to make more money.
right now than to make a great show
because otherwise that
Negan shit wouldn't have drug on
and there wouldn't have been so much nonsense
whenever they get in a goddamn
I always say
it's not just because I'm like a gun guy or whatever
but if you've got a group of 15 people
who go up against another group of 15 people
we've all got modern weapons
they are 15's machine guns and shit
and like one guy gets shot in the arm
and a bad guy dies
I'm like what the fuck this happened
this should have been a slaughter
like everybody has a laser
a laser guided killing machine
everyone should have died just now
like everyone we should all be dead
wounded maimed and like
and then I also hate in movies
and TV shows when like the character
gets shot every week like every
week they're getting shot
that's why I like the soprano so much
I give it so much credit when Tony got shot
oh my God it was like
he had that crater in his stomach
and it was all septic
and the after fact he was weakened
and he was talking about like I can't
eat this anymore like in this big
strong man had wasted away his muscle mass at least like it was rough like it he was never the same
again after that and that's the other hand Chris was one of his like hitmen right Chris was there to
kill people and he couldn't handle a pistol uh-uh Chris is the best shot in the whole show what he's
talking about he pushes the gun forward when he shoots and he never misses okay but he
that's silly right like no one can shoot like that okay he handles the way the actor handles the weapon
poorly. That's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, definitely, I agree with you there.
But the character Christopher
is a fucking seal team
six level killer.
Every gunfight he ever gets in,
he hits his, there's that scene where they're
robbing the wine from the cobras or whatever,
the vipers. He's hanging out
the window as they're driving away and hits
the guy. He's like, I hit him!
And like whenever those two,
the Maltazanti kid tries to take Christopher out,
he's laying in the street, bullet in his gut,
kills the guy, shoots him in the head,
every time he got in a gun fight
he killed the guy
yet he doesn't look down the sights when he handles the gun
and that took me out of it
yeah
bang bang bang
yeah I don't like that either
you would think they'd be a little bit better at
the technical advisor stuff and just getting shit right
did you finish Gen V
yeah yeah I'm plotting my way through it
it is a woke show
like it at first
the first season I thought the wokeness
was sometimes subtle
like you pointed out to me. I'm like, yeah, I guess so. Not this. It's just getting woker and woker. It's a little
frustrating. What are the most frustrating parts, Woody? I'm curious. Oh, shit. I'm going to fail
this quiz. I guess there's a trend, not even a different kind of trans person, one who actually turns
into a boy and girl at will. And they have like different powers that kind of fit their male and
female stereotypes when he's a boy he's big and strong when is a girl is some other power cleverness
or something and energy blasts or something like that energy blasts maybe um the girl that uses
blood to manipulate things you know it started when she got her first period um and she killed
her mom and she thought she killed her sister but turns out she's alive their powers are also linked
to self-harm in a way because she had to cut herself to do it yes and then the other girl
Another girl gets big and small.
Yeah.
And when she gets larger and smaller, it's hugely impactful on her sense of self-worth.
So, like, when she wants to get bigger, she eats a lot.
She can get really big, like 18 feet tall.
Oh, wow.
And she can get really small, like three inches tall.
And she does that by purging, you know, by throwing up or by eating a lot.
And it's just sort of a extreme eating disorder type thing.
And, dude, there's a little woke message everywhere.
Whereas, like, the boys, for example, doesn't seem that woke.
It's just assholes, self-serving, well, then maybe it's slipped past.
I don't know.
You don't watch the boys, Taylor.
What are you doing?
I've seen those clips.
I've seen it.
Oh, my God.
Don't let him troll you would.
He doesn't watch anything.
He plays Age of Empires, Pokemon, and he watches King of the Hill reruns.
Dude, there is.
That's not true.
A lot of people are trying to the Hill radio.
I'm watching Top Gear right now.
They hit like 25 or so
and they just stop absorbing new content.
Taylor has done that more hardcore than anyone
else I know. He is playing video
games from 10 years ago. He's watching
TV shows from 10 years ago.
He's got to, dude,
he is in 2015
and will never leave it.
Dude, I just, like,
I just, when it comes to the
important content, I just read books for it.
And so I backfill all the
other stuff. Not me. I stay hip.
Skibibbibity.
Oh, I felt that one.
Oh.
I don't say that.
You know what's funny is I don't even know the cringe you're referencing,
but I can feel it.
Six and seven.
Good.
You don't know that.
Don't do that,
don't do that.
I refuse to engage in six,
seven.
I just,
I just,
when I see it,
I like catch it out the corner of my eye like your dad's dick when he's
stepping out of the shower.
I knew that was a meme that wasn't for me.
So I moved past it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a part of that.
That one's,
I don't want to
I don't care
I just don't care
is the answer
to that one
but yeah
Gen V
very woke
its core
concept is woke
I like it though
I don't give a shit
you know
you preach
preach sister
you know
I don't know
because there's
enough coolness
in between
I like the powers
and I like the fights
and I like
I like that villain
I thought he was pretty sick
I finished the show
so I don't want to do any
spoilers
but I will say the end of it
is going to lead
right into the boys
that's why I'm watching it
I felt like
I'm almost doing
my homework
I really like the boys.
You 100% are.
If you didn't watch this and you just jumped into the boys, you'd be like, huh, who are these
people?
And why are they now with these people?
They set the stage.
The end of Gen V becomes the beginning of the boys.
And this is the last season of the boys.
So I'm psyched to see it.
They're going to mix in some Trump shit, I'm sure.
I hope that they, I hope so.
I hope there's all sorts of Trump-related stuff.
I don't give a fuck.
I like it.
I love Homelander.
I think that guy's an incredible actor
I think that's one of the best characters I've ever
seen on TV like it's one of the best
villains for sure he's very new
perfect yes he's so good at it
he's so good at being awful
is he an incredible actor
perfect for this role I'd like to see
like um
oh help me with the breaking bad guy
the star of the show
Walter White
fucking what I was going to
Brian Cranston
Brian Cranston is amazing to me
because he both killed it
and Malcolm in the middle and breaking bad
and they're the opposite. Yeah, Malcolm in the
middle of rules. And Seinfeld, Tim Watley.
So, like,
that amazes me in an actor. There are a couple
of the ones we could run through who can play lots of different
roles. Seymour Hoffman. Oh my gosh.
So good.
Whoever plays Holander,
I forget his name. I'd like to see him
in more roles before I put him in the great
in the great. Oh, that's interesting
because he doesn't have an accent in the show.
But I want to see him kill some
more roles before I put him up there, but he's
great for this one. Yeah, I agree. He was in a TV show where he's like pretending to be a sheriff
or something. It's like an action TV show, but I've never picked it up. Yeah, he's great at it.
And the end of last season, he was getting like great pubic hairs and having like, he was like
hallucinating and getting like freaking weird and it's so scary to see someone that powerful
become unstable. I think that alone is a good storyline. I'm curious. Goblin, when you're not
doing a crazy amount of drugs.
What are you doing for fun? Are you gaming?
Oh, man. I play a lot of games for sure.
What are you playing?
Dude, I play a little bit of everything, but lately a lot of Counterstrike.
Are you good?
I'm not bad.
I'm not going to say I'm amazing, but, you know, like rank.
He's being falsely humble. I bet he's good.
A lot of the best FPS players I know come from Counterstrike.
that game rewards clicking on heads
small ones from across the mat
and then when they jump in anything else
it just seems to be easy mode for them
yep
yeah I
is there like a CSGO
like rating
yeah there is there is like a rank system
it's pretty pretty muddy
so the highest I got is
14,900 something
just under there's like tiers
so it goes every 5k
it's like zero to five is the lowest
it's like gray
then 5 to 10 is blue
and then 10 to 15 which is where I was
is like dark blue so it's like not bad
it goes 15 to 20 goes all the way up to like 30
sounds like middle ground you know
I'm asking my friend if that's a good
Elo
it's the third highest it's the third highest
I don't know what to make of it I'm not a
I'm not a CIS go player but I'm tempted to give
it a try something not right now I'm addicted
to Arc Radio oh have you ever played it
no I've never even you won't like it
you won't like it it's very bare bones
and it's all our outsider
looking in. It's a very bare bones
and it's a pure
like mechanics shooter. Obviously
there's tons of strat and like
game knowledge but like it
really boils you down to how good you are
at clicking on heads.
When I watched like
the high level players played especially the tournament play
you can't tell. Everyone
looks like they're cheating. Everyone looks like they're
insane. Yeah.
I want to live in that environment
a little bit maybe just so that I come out of it
stronger. It's also just not a
real fun game like it's not very nuanced it's like it's called no i disagree dude it feels like
called the search and destroy but with like over and over and over and over and over and over
there's no game more fun to get drunk and play there's literally not god let me if i have this
right okay people in c s go know that game so deeply they know every line of sight they know every
grenade weirdo
ricochet throw that
it is not just
a basic shooter anymore it is a test
of knowledge and shooting accuracy
in tactics because the expertise
is yeah that that's why
I haven't played at a high level it's crazy
like there's so
effectively like
because it's it's so
I don't want to say basic but like you do the
same thing over and over it's almost like
call duty you know but with less maps
and like less game modes it's one game mode
it's pretty much search and destroy like that is effectively what c s is every single round um and
because you play the same map so regularly you see like how everything plays out and you get to the
point where like you don't know where someone is they haven't shot their gun or made any noise but
you do know like you know where they you know all you know where they can be and yeah you know exactly
where they're going to be and you know how to preemptively aim there so like for example for me like
i've played thousands of hours of counter strike i'm a very mediocre player but i still am
able to like before I turn a corner my crosshair is already where their heads likely to be
and like if I get around that his is probably also where mine's like me to be likely to be
if we're the same rank and it's just whoever reacts first you know um have you tried arc raiders
yeah I've played arc raiders I've played a little bit movement in arc raiders keeps getting better
and better I have never seen a game move as well as arc raiders does that I
I have 100 hours in it, so I'm not some super pro.
But I just learned to slide endlessly, which is pretty neat.
I learned to flip off building.
So, of course, you can, if you don't the game at all, you jump off a building and you roll at the very bottom and you don't take damage when you otherwise would.
If you roll at the top, you can hit the ground and run and shoot like immediately.
This game's movement is deeper and more complicated and pretty skill-based.
I'm learning to slide through a door, get a shotgun hit, and then roll back from,
the door you came from with eye frames.
And I'm like a C, B person.
I don't get it perfectly.
But I go where there's no players like in the practice range
and practice for like an hour in a row to get where I want to be.
And I don't know.
Arc Raiders is blowing me away.
In some ways it's kind of simple.
And in some ways it's like, holy smokes.
I didn't realize this was even in here.
If they keep the content cranking out the same way that like a game like
Hell Divers does.
then it's going to be a really, really big game.
But if they stutter staff,
if they don't fix this door glitch
and some of the other complaints people have,
if they don't find a way, I think,
to bounce the PVE and the PVP.
And I think one thing that's going to happen
is slowly over time,
a lot of the player base
is going to get stoured against the, like,
meaner PVP people from, like, Tarkov.
The people that...
Wait, hold on. Are you guys friendlies?
Well, it depends
I'm a friendly
No
You know what I am
I'm sorry Kyle
I'll go next
In solo if I'm there for like a
I've done on my quest
So if I'm playing solo
I'm either looting or shooting
And it's going to be a mixture of both
But I won't shoot you on site
Like if I see you over there
Looting a thing
I don't just open up on you
And I'll tell you why
The maps are too crowded
And too small for that
And because the
the culture in that game becomes almost like among us where like if you open up on this guy
he might yell to a guy you can't see even though it's in solos and be like there's a bad
guy shooting at me for no reason and then they'll gang up on you and you can't win a 3v1 in this
game or i can't it's going to be game it is pretty hard to win you know so like so i tried it
but but i'll be honest like most of the people who want to pvp and solo will either be like
clear about it right away
or they're bad. The people who have
tried to camp and shoot me, like,
hiding in a corner and they open up on me,
I turn on them with a percentage
that is higher than in any other game.
In Battlefield, I almost
never turn on people. It's the time
to kill is fast. I'll do it
sometimes. If I've got the right weapon or
they've got the wrong weapon, like, I'll
turn around and fucking mow them down. I'm like,
and I'll even say it. I'll be like, you're bad.
You got turned on in battle.
If you...
Art Raiders, you better not
shoot me and do a hat you shoot the king you best not miss because i'm not missing i can't wait
in the fucking second if you fucking are not friendly in solos you suck at this game you are fucking
dog shit there are other game modes duos and trios where people want to fight but if you're a
talentless come swapping dick shit then all you can do is run around and shoot people who are
aspiring to be friendly people who are questing people who are looting
looking at a chest get good and like Kyle said dude every fucking time today some cock shit tried to
kill me in solos they got turned on with bullets into their fucking nasal collie to get nasal whatever
anyway they suck they suck at the game if you're shooting in solos just tell me you're a dog shit
fps player who hasn't been honing their skills for 15 years you're passionate about this
yeah passionate dude you you're fucking dog water at shooters if you do if you go into solos and
you know you're doing it because you can't handle it in duos and trios I go to duos and
trios I bring my my fucking pvp load out right I'm bringing a stitcher I'm bringing a kettle
I'm bringing a vanditer I'm bringing a shotgun or medium shields because I think medium
meta I like medium shields I don't like the movement deduction but anyway yeah yeah so in solos
that's where you run around you do
the quests you find your fucking harvesting you pick your flowers you you get celeste's journal and then
duos and trios that's where we fucking throw down and if you like to throw down against people
who are picking flowers you're just shit at shooters that's you there you are i agree 100% it's
it's absolutely true um i was playing and i just had like talk to a guy and and he was like help me
with this arc and i'm like absolutely fucking kill the arc with him
like good luck buddy and I and there was someone listening to us outside the building hiding in a
dark fucking corner and as I run by him he dumps his fucking white stitcher into me and brings
me down to like 20 HP and I'm just like and I see him you switch weapons slowly in this game
so he's going to his backup weapon to finish me off and I'm just like nope and I'm just like
renegade just like headshot headshot headshot head shot headshot and he's in it and I was like
why do you have to do that buddy and he's like I'm sorry I'm bad and I'm like
yeah i i fucking love it i give them a morality lecture if they don't suicide
like get good don't fucking if you're listen the robots don't shoot each other but the people do
that's why the robots are dominating the overworld you guys would hate me on our craters
i would fucking show you between the eyes if you're fighting in solace you probably are your shit
Yo, so the only reason I'm fighting
in solo is because my friends aren't on to do it
and duos or trios. Oh, is there no way to
queue up for duos and trios?
I don't want to queue up with some randoms.
You want to go in there and like be nice to people
or some strangers? You like to find people who say
friendly, friendly and shoot them. Yes, yes.
I always do. I always
bring it. Bring your fucking noise goblin
because I'm good at shooters.
Stay last. I've been doing it since you were in diapers.
Dude. Oh, damn.
That's true. I used to play a lot of cold.
I was younger, dude. I used to play a lot of other.
shooters dude i mean you've been doing it longer than me but i don't know dude i'm confident you know i think
you're confident so you run around in arc raiders shooting in solos i shoot dude dude that's the point
of the extraction shooters though he's gonna wreck you like the point is to is to kill other people
and loot them and take their stuff you know i mean i when i drop into the extraction shooter that's
not the art graders solos culture you know it's not dude you know you know you're constantly shooting
people dude see you're not denying what i'm saying you're just saying i don't care right you're like
I like to shoot people who don't shoot back.
I'm not, yeah, I'm not.
I don't jump on Arc Raiders and I'm like, man,
I love the community, dude.
I want to give back.
Let's like really help these guys do your quest.
The guy's like, I need to kill a rocketeer.
I'm like, I got a hole cracker on me.
Let's roll.
Like, if you were in my game,
I would watch you pick like 100 flowers from afar and I'd come up and I'd be like,
friendly and you'd be talking to me.
And as soon as you open a crate, I'm mag dumping.
Like that's as soon as you open a crate.
So I'm definitely not a pacifist in solo.
What I will say is like, even if you're saying you're friendly,
if your movement seems suspicious to me,
if I feel like you're circling around me oddly,
if you follow me at like clearly we're not talking,
we're just sort of like passing by and now you're kind of stalking me seemingly,
I'm not even going to say anything.
I'm just going to open up on you and get first shot and kill you.
I killed the guy the other day and he's like,
oh, did you want my flowers?
And I'm like, yeah, I know.
need those. That's how I make my bandages. Yes, I want your flowers. Oh, my God. I made you have.
It's like, yeah, of course I want them. So like, I'm somewhere in between because I, I, I brought a gun, you know, to this thing.
But at the same time, like, I'm not looking to PVP. I'm mostly, if I'm soloing, I'm looking for gear.
I have no gear fear. I couldn't be richer. I couldn't be richer unless you enlarged the size of my bank account to hold these riches. I have more.
stuff in my stash than i know what to do with i don't need to shoot on site i don't need to
shoot first right that's for players who who aren't rich right that's for people who need my gun i
don't need my gun i got so many more in my stash i can't store them all what you go to go level
for favorite for what uh honestly pvp like like it like tvp i like this a leveled up
stature a lot with all the attachments i thought i was going to have the nuanced view
The leveled up stitcher is the goat.
I think that's the move because the,
what's the pink SMG?
It's like the, the Bobcat?
The Bobcat.
I think I'd rather have the upgraded stitcher than the Bobcat.
I'd rather have it.
I think it's better.
If I'm really like going for PVP,
and by the way, I'm not in solos, of course,
because I have a long dick.
If I'm really going for PVP,
then I might bring a leveled up stitcher.
But the problem is sometimes I feel a little defenseless.
You can mag dump a shredder for,
example and not make very much progress with
a stitcher. Right? So
if I'm like a pharaoh or an anvil for
the as a backup sure that
an anvil is a backup match with the stitcher
is really nice but I might just bring a
is it a Venetor right? Which is kind of
the jack of all trades. He nerfed it and I don't
won't fuck with it anymore. I was
one of my first blueprints I ever got and they turned
that rate of fire down and it
feels nasty now. I like
Tempest. I win with the Nerfed
gun. The Tempest.
Is the Tempest? Is it a R.
I don't think I've used that very much
I only have
I don't know I'll tell you
I drop with a hundred and eight hours in the game
I'm just there to loot
like I'm there to just shoot people
you know I played as a PP game
what I want to say about the free
the free loadout system is so genius
it's the only thing I'll say
is if you do a free load out
you should spawn later in a raid
and if you do a
your real load out you should spawn
instantly into raid
because currently it's a mixture above
so you can bring your goaded
gear your meta shit 100,000 coin worth and you can spawn in with 18 minutes left in the
raid and that's not cool that you're 12 minutes in like especially the game where people
can extract camp it's that thing we talked about in CSGO where three minutes into the match
you don't know where they are but you know where they aren't and you know probably where they're
headed and using that information you can either avoid fights or set ambushes or everything in
Between them.
Were the rushes to the valuable rooms?
If you spawn in 12 minutes late, like, you're wasting your time.
Yeah.
And again, like mobility's big.
So like, you know, you put your weapon away and sprinting at the beginning because, you know, there's a spawn point there, spawn point there.
I can run here completely safe.
No one's going to open up on me.
But you spawn in 18 minutes in and basically the whole map is a red zone.
They could be anywhere in the buildings above you, below you, you sit in a corner.
I don't like that at all.
But the idea of the free loadout, you know, compared to, say, the Skav run of Tarkov,
leagues better.
It's just such a better.
Yeah.
And I don't know, dude.
I don't know about that, man.
I'm listening to be great.
Have you played a lot of Tarkov?
Yeah.
Thousands of hours.
In terms of extraction games, it's like definitely the king for a reason.
But with Arc, like, I feel like the free loadouts kind of fuck the game up, though,
because there's no cool down on them.
And like, you can just go in and never risk anything, which is like, it makes,
It's so easy to get rich.
That's how they need to balance it.
What I said before, though, is like free look.
That's how scab runs work, right?
In Tarkov, you don't, sometimes if the servers are bad, you might get in and you're
three minutes into raid.
That's a really early scab run.
But most of the time, 10 minutes, 12 minutes, 15 minutes left out of a 35, 40 minute raid.
You're picking through fucking looted shit.
You're hoping there's a player body or somebody killed Rishala and then died doing it or
something you're hoping for something like that but it rarely happens in this game though like you said
you can spawn right at the beginning with a free kit and you know you i don't like that i don't think
that that's exactly balanced and i don't think it's really fair to the players who bring in full kits
who risk here yeah i agree i agree on that completely uh i kind of like that it's a little
easier to get ahead on the wealth it's a lot easier to get ahead of the wealth curve on our
graders it eliminates gear for you can run whatever you want i get i basically
basically gave away a hole cracker today
I got 30,000
it's fine I have the blueprint I can make
more it's no problem and
the guy gave it to it never seen
one before so like
I but he loved that I like doing that
in games too like rust is
the biggest game where you can
be generous towards the end because at the
beginning everybody's literally dirt poor
you're naked with a fucking rock in your hand
your cocks out and by the end
if you did well like you've got
barrels full of shit that a new player would just kill for.
And so we always, at the end of a server wipe, like,
find some noob who's, like, new to the game and has never seen an AK,
or they've never seen, like, certain pieces of gear.
Like, they've never used C4 and be like, hey, you want this base?
The codes, and just give the door code.
Just like, take our whole base.
It's your base now.
Little kids love that shit.
They freak out and start screaming and thanking you.
And it's like, you know, no cost to me, but got to make his little day.
Yeah.
Arc Raiders pretty cool.
I, like, there were times during the show,
I was jealous.
I know my friends are playing together.
And I'm like, man,
tapping my wrist,
tapping a vein.
Last night,
after the,
after the hangout at 9.30,
I came down and Jackie's like,
do you want to play one?
Yes.
I'm just going to play rhyme.
Then I'll give you attention.
Yes.
Just,
yeah.
Set the pretzels next to me.
I'm a little burnout.
I need new content.
I want some new content.
I want some new content.
I like the PVP and the PVE.
I think both are interesting.
I don't know if I want more.
I guess I want more items.
I want something to do.
I just feel like if I,
now I'm just playing for the love of the PVP
because there's nothing else to do.
Like I've killed the queens
and I've killed all the big bots
and I've taken all the best lutes and
okay.
It wasn't hard.
A queen or a matriarch yet.
Which one's bigger?
The queen is bigger.
The matriarch has like this shield,
like bubble shield type thing
that it makes it more complicated.
Yeah.
Both are very easy to kill
as long as you don't get third-party.
You just get yourself on on top of building
in a good, not a glitch spot per se,
but just behind cover.
You just wail on it.
I brought 50 Hulk Cracker rounds
and so did Middy and so did the other guy.
And we just, we just wail on it.
My friend has the wolf pack,
which for listeners is a grenade
that's very good against bots.
He has the blueprint for it.
So we could just dump in resources
and make progress pretty quickly, I'd bet.
But, yeah, I don't use the Hole Crackers much.
I know they're amazing against the Bombadiers, the Wolfpack, yeah.
I just like, the Hulk Crackers just so cheap to run.
That's my go-to for BBE.
The Bombadier, what?
There's a big, like, basically a quad-rotor drone that shoots rockets instead of machine guns,
and it's a very formidable enemy.
Have you seen the Bombadier Beetle?
rocketeer is it
that's the rocketeer you're talking about the bombardier also
exists but it's like a giant spider that's
that like tick thing that shoots
the missiles instead of the machine guns
and the bastion is the one with the machine guns
okay you're right yeah
I'm addicted to this game I know the monsters right now
I'm glad I got you into it I'm always recommending games
I'm glad this one stuck I'm glad you like this one
because as soon as I played it I was like
there's something special about this this is
this is nice
both of my friends
oh I'm sorry I
I was going to say real quick. Both of my friends have the medium gun blueprint.
No. Yeah, the medium gun parts blueprint.
And I didn't. And he's like, what, he brings something with the safe spot. And I was hoping.
I was hoping because they know I've been grinding it like 12 hours a day for a couple of days now.
And he gave it to me. And it was like, oh, nothing but upgraded inventors going forward.
I don't need variety like, Kyle. I'm autistic.
Yeah, a touch of the tism.
Goblin, where can everyone find your channels, your content?
Where can they find it?
Type me in on YouTube, type in the Gobcast, if you want to watch my podcast, on Spotify or YouTube.
I have a new show called Crackheads, which is with my buddy that I smoked crack with when I was in high school.
So watch that on YouTube as well or Spotify.
And yeah, I don't know.
Type in Goblin.
You'll probably find me.
My Clips guy spams a lot of posts.
So not too hard to find.
but thank you for coming on we had a great time thanks for having me guys yeah it was a blast so i've been
getting a lot of comments for a while to uh you know suggesting to come on here so i'm really
excited to uh awesome i'm glad you came on pka 780
