Painkiller Already - PKA 783: Kyle’s PRESENT OF ALL TIME

Episode Date: December 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKK 783, Taylor? This episode of PKK is brought to you by our merch and of course, lock and load and Christmas. Merry Christmas to all. Both of you and everyone listening, the spirit of the season, we're all jolly maxing together now.
Starting point is 00:00:17 What about the Jews, Taylor? What about that? All are welcome. All are welcome at Christmas. Are they not? Christmas is universally. Unless he are driving a four-chevian. You don't want to hit them with a happy Hanukkah?
Starting point is 00:00:30 Just to cover our bases? Oh, yeah. Happy Hanukkah, Kwanza and whatever else might have done. No one does Kwanza. Kwanza is made up. Yeah. Kwanza is made up. It's like it's either a scam, a multi-level marketing, or it's a cult that started in California by some insane person. Nobody in the world does Kwanza. Yeah, I think it's a meme.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Like, Black people celebrate Christmas also. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. All are welcome in Santa's house. I don't care. This is the big one. likes Christmas. They don't like the religious aspects. Everyone likes the...
Starting point is 00:01:04 Christmas and then Thanksgiving and then Halloween. Is Christmas the best holiday? And if so, like our ancestors, I think, were masters of making holidays because they took the classical maybe Roman holiday celebrations and that had melded into the Roman Catholic church. And then they just absorbed all those Germanic pagan and Celtic tribes. And like, oh, y'all have a tree? sure, that's part of it too. What else? We usually have like a feast. Yeah, we do that too. Sounds like the same holiday to me, man. What else? We exchanged gifts for the children and we have a made-up old guy who comes and gives them. Great, whatever you say. They had a scarier old guy, too. I think he like cut thumbs off or something. Like he played for keeps. Are you talking about Bell? Are you talking about Belchnicle?
Starting point is 00:01:54 Perhaps. There's some German. There's some German. Belzschnickle. You may mean crampus? Gatekeeping. Cranpus is the anti-Santa. Okay. Have you seen those marches in Belgium where they like dress like demons in the Christmas season and then they like they've got big horns and like orcalf faces? Ah, so even funnier, and it might be the Netherlands, although I get the Dutch Netherlands
Starting point is 00:02:21 all mixed up because they're like the same region or whatever, but they have belshnichel and then his sidekick is Blakpitor. or black peyodor maybe and black peyodor is traditionally and to this day represented by black face with the big red lips
Starting point is 00:02:40 and it's like a little jolly black-faced elf. It is on for the kids and you know if you haven't noticed there is a doth of black people to play black Peter if you want to show us a picture of black Peter if you can find one and Belshnickle. They're just wonderful holiday
Starting point is 00:02:56 traditions that we no longer no longer support. Yeah, they seem a little out of date. We've Americanized Christmas to the point where it's just sacchar and sweet, just the good parts. There's some Black Peters. I mean, if this does, I see this and I think of Christmas. And they're in Europe, so there's no one to beat them up. They're both men, right?
Starting point is 00:03:20 No. That's a woman on the left. That has to be a, there has to be a woman on the left. And on the right? On the right? on the right the I don't know man that's a man he's got a man
Starting point is 00:03:34 he's got kind of like chin Woody it's like yours you have the same chin as that man on the right there's no way that's ever a woman it could be a handsome woman this could be a potential all right I'll give you that I could be a handsome woman there Woody you should log this away as
Starting point is 00:03:51 I mean your chin's so similar maybe next year's Halloween how about here we We'll play a game called Man or Woman with Woody Are these men? No, I think we're over Two on the men in this one.
Starting point is 00:04:07 This looks like a picture of women Like out to brunch with a bunch of stuff added in Photoshop. This doesn't even look like a photo. Yeah, it looks like Taylor Swift a little on the left. She's about to get canceled. No. Oh, this is fun.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Oh, I'm pretty sure that's Bell Schnickle. a positive that's bell schnickle actually So he's got wall hanging on Is that supposed to be his hand The tree limbs or? Yeah he has these long claw like fingers Kind of like salad fingers If you're familiar with that
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yes Salad fingers Yeah salad fingers Google it real quick You'll take you You'll catch right up Salad fingers was some like early 2000s I don't want to call it Edge Lord stuff
Starting point is 00:04:49 But like memeery Like there were the series of videos It's really dark stuff yeah i watched all the salad fingers things back in the day like it was pre-y-y-tube internet videos so you'd have to go to albino black sheep or ebom's world to find them and they were i don't remember them being edgy i remember them being like disturbing and weird where like he lived in a horrible world with like that style of art that reminds me of an old soviet cartoon where the lines even for like buildings are never static there's a slight bit of shake between frames
Starting point is 00:05:19 where it looks yeah i know what you mean it's unnerving man that's a walk-down memory lane I remember when that was huge in like middle school in like 2002, everybody liked salad fingers. You were in college when I started watching it because I remember talking to you about one of your classes on the stoop of my girlfriend's house after watching salad fingers. But speaking of the holidays, I wanted to know what y'all guys are going to get for your significant others. If you're doing something fancy, if it's one of those old people Christmases where we can't get in either anything because we have everything or what to do. is. I'll go first if you want. You get, sure. All right, so girlfriend is getting me a Trayor Smoker Grill. So I'm pretty psyched about that. She's getting me like, I don't remember which one. It's the $1,000 one. And she got the like accessory rack and everything. So I'm going
Starting point is 00:06:09 to immediately start smoking things on Saturday or whenever it shows up. It's awesome. You're going to have fun. And I'm going to give her $1,200 cash. $1,200 cash. And you should, you should lay it like on your erect penis as you're as you're approaching her giving her but it will be paid me
Starting point is 00:06:32 I struggled can you can you can you film that and please please will you do it for me when you film that a gift exchange buy your own smoker
Starting point is 00:06:42 and save the extra steps well yeah you'd be in the green two hundo and I got the reward points no yeah well the smoker's not quite
Starting point is 00:06:52 $1,200 but but you know, it's the exchange of gifts. And I'm going to find a fun way to present the $1,200. I've seen where people fold them into bouquets. I'll probably just get a bunch of tents. I know I'm making a lot of class. Will you please do ones? Throw them out there.
Starting point is 00:07:09 It would be a bucket of ones. And you know what? Make her buy one of those plastic silos with a fan in it. And it blows the money around. And it's almost like a game show you've now created. Yeah, you have to be what she collects. Yeah, you have to be for real. Like, you...
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, the trick to that game is to form, like, a little catch. You hug the wall and, like, bring your arms in like this, and the money, like, like, accumulates. It's on its own right, like, in this little basket. Yeah, I was a sort of basket, yeah. I was literally right about to say... You got to get a wall. You have to, whatever you do, you got to get to the wall.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Because people who try to, like, grab, you don't get anything done. That is, yeah. they'll come home with $6. Yeah. But yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't figure out what to get her. Like, she's got, she's got, like, hobbies and interests. Oh, yeah. I never did figure it out.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Maybe I'm not understanding. I was like, she's into gaming, but. Honey, I know you've been talking about a down payment on a 2015 civic. And I just don't know that Santa thinks you've been a very good girl this. Like, I usually get her gaming. stuff, but at this point, because we've been dating a while, I've gotten her like a gaming PC, a desk, and a chair. I've gotten
Starting point is 00:08:28 her an Xbox and a PlayStation and a VR headset, and I pay for her Xbox, like, like, GamePass shit. And it's like, she has everything there is. She has all of the gaming things. Like, she doesn't want a DS or a Steam deck or whatever. No secondary hobbies? Like, is she into
Starting point is 00:08:46 She collects? She collects minerals. Not exactly like Uncle Hank. Like hers are at least like, they look like gemstones. Okay, it's exactly like Uncle Hank. Yeah, I guess it's like Uncle Hank. But she's not like, no, that's my cow site. She's just like, yeah, they all look pretty.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like she's got this big pile of like, she's got shelves full of these like crystals and like geodes and fossils. But the shelf is fucking full. Have you ever had to be like, oh, that's a beautiful geode? I think that one might even look better in a not public facing area of the home. Maybe the guest bathroom. No, I like them. Like, they genuinely look nice. They're all really cool to look at.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I added my one fossil that I own, like, to her collection, and it fits in well with the others. And then she's into, she reads a ton. She's got, like, it would be called a library if it weren't just, like, the edge of our living room. It was stacked with bookcases, but it's three big bookcases as jam-packed as bookcases can be with books. But she's got all the books that she wants, clearly. Like, if she wanted more books, there'd be a fourth bookcase. She doesn't want any more books. And I thought it was not getting a first edition, like hand signed, like Anne Rice, like a, like, like, those are about $1,200.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And I'm thinking to myself, wouldn't she rather have $1,200 cash? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Again, please. I want to see her face bean when when she gets this gift. So let me share in that part of the Christmas season with you. What about is do a bank transfer on my phone?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Hey, you got to open Zell? and click accept. Like literally in it, the note says happy, happy holidays. No, I want to actually, I have to redo the transfer.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It's not accepting as three Santa emojis and the, the water sign and the eggplant and the winky face, pinky corner of the mouth, an emoji. Yeah, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Maybe, like, and you know, I'm no expert, but you might want to convert maybe 200 of the 1200 into a tangible gift. Maybe a book. take a guess on a book series she'd like and buy it right she's in the middle of a 13 book series
Starting point is 00:10:59 like like i'm telling you she's stocked up i mean i mean the world's full of rocks you could buy her like one big nice rock that's you know i considered that um what's that purple um an amethyst well that's the gemstone i'm talking about the ones that you can see like propped up against like like stood next by fireplace in my head but i don't think that's what you're looking for. Yeah, it's like, it's like it is kind of, it's like a giant geo that they broke open and it's just full of purple, um, crystals. I can't remember what that's called. It deep purple project amazing geode polished amethyst cluster. Maybe. That sounds right. That's a lot of the words we were referencing. I guess it was amethyst. Yeah. So I've looked at those two and like a
Starting point is 00:11:47 $1,200, like, giant amethyst geote is pretty fucking impressive. Like, it comes up to your knee maybe, and it's pretty wide. Like, it's pretty big. That's such a big rock to buy for, like, a grand. And it would sit in front of the other rocks, I guess. It would have to go by the fireplace. And then very quickly, she'd be like, you know, it doesn't look good with just one. And I mean another one on the other.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Stimetry. Exactly. Put it in the middle. Save another. $1,200. Maybe I'll miss it. It's $1,200, babe. It's a gift certificate for anywhere in the world. This is legal tender. I wouldn't mind $1,200 cash. Hey, anybody's looking for a gift for me? $1,200 cash is exactly what I want this year. That's an excellent gift. If anybody gave me $1,200 cash, I'd be like, how did you know? Like, that's exactly what I wanted. I can turn this into things that I want in my own time.
Starting point is 00:12:45 What are you going to get, like, another holster for your fucking leather man, along with some whiskey stones and some soap that smells like smoke and maybe a belt and some socks? Like, that's men Christmas. Yeah, you get like, like, if you look up on, if you look up on Amazon, like gifts for men, it's all like the wicked sharp ultimate lumberjack razor set and like soaps that it's like, this one is made of. volcanic ash and it smells like you mean like lava like the scent is axe winter yeah you used lava before like the gojo stuff
Starting point is 00:13:25 I've seen that in workshops it's not good so gojo and lava soap are different if I recall correctly maybe yeah they are I don't I don't know that gojo has the like lava pumice stuff in it but it's got something gritty in it I think I remember
Starting point is 00:13:41 gojo just being more like dawn and that it cuts grease really well and the lava stuff just hurting but not working. This is the worst of both. Yeah. So Jackie, I worry my present would suck to other people, but I'm pretty sure it will land with Jackie.
Starting point is 00:13:57 She likes Lego. This is weird to other people. She's 53 now, but she's always been a huge fan of Lego. And we also both like Formula One. We watch it. Max Verstappen's her favorite driver. And I saw this YouTube short
Starting point is 00:14:10 of Max Verstappen admiring the Lego version of his car. It's called the RB20, the Red Bull 20. And he's like flipping it upside down, looking at the suspense, like a four-length suspension that moves, the drivetrain moves, the shifter works. There's 1,639 pieces. And I was like, all right, that's it. This is her present.
Starting point is 00:14:31 So I'm getting her the max for Stapp and Lego. Can I make it? I don't know if you've already pulled the trigger, but this also exists. And I have you considered $1,200 cash? So, how do you think, just, how do you think Jackie would react if you were like, close your eyes, sweetie, and you handed over $1,200 cash? No card. She handed it back to me and say deposit it or something, I guess. How much interest that we lost already?
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah, that's it pretty much. That's what I'm getting here. My link is the Enterprise, the Star Trek Enterprise Lego. I think of that. That was cool, too. it came out a few months ago and I immediately thought of Jackie it comes with all the main cast characters as a little Lego man it's 3,600 pieces if I were into Lego I would have
Starting point is 00:15:25 done this already but it's it's just not by jam I don't get it I want to see the inside I don't know like how are they 30 oh well it's pretty big yeah I couldn't tell how big that was by the picture and then I saw the box where it's like you know the amount of pieces like that has to be enormous yeah there's if you hear it exactly can you go to that link and show it is that possible because uh there's a dude holding it and you get to see him for perspective that looks pretty cool a good gift she's gonna like i think she'll like i think it'll land i'm getting my girlfriend i got her some smaller things like that she just throughout the year had mentioned she wanted like
Starting point is 00:16:06 she wanted one of those uh because she sits and plays video games on the couch and well she's really oblivion and Skyrim and things like that and she wanted one of those like tables because she sits on the side of the couch that doesn't have an end table and like those things that slide under the couch and come over you with like a table so you can have your drink or your snack or your controller or your phone to look up tips on where to find this and that and that was just a little thing the main stuff was golf related she's become obsessed with golf like she wants to get good at it and I'm I'm good enough at golf to not make an ass of myself when I go out with people, but I'm not good enough to instruct.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Like, my level of expertise is, like, watching her, and she's, like, newer at it, and she'll swing. And I'm like, man, I can tell that's wrong, but I can't tell you exactly. I know your front arm needs to be straight. And so last year, she bought a bunch of left-handed clubs, but it wasn't a full set, and there were a couple very important ones that were missing, but she likes them. And so I just kind of bought the in-between irons and things to fill out the set, so she has a real one. So hopefully she- Are they tailor-made?
Starting point is 00:17:11 because I just need it to be because of your name. Yeah, that may have been a better move, but I looked at reviews and I liked the Callaway reviews more, and so I got her Callow. Oh, yeah, you want to, yep. Just for the pun. I made it myself. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Not even a chuckle. You know what? Fuck it. You start flapping them over my legs. Yeah, we were. Just last night, we went to a virtual golf place where, because it's like zero degrees here and she was like, I really want to golf more and like even just like an hour or so after work or weeknights, we can, you know, go out and get a little better at it. And I was like, I'm not going to top golf because it's zero degrees. And there's no way those like three bullshit heaters they claim keep it nice.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Like it's going to be miserable. And so we did virtual golf instead where you hit it at this big virtual display and then it, I guess, registers the power. your clubhead speed, all these metrics, and that tells you where it goes on the course. And I am beyond a shadow of a doubt convinced that they goose your numbers in a way that, like, they're getting bold with it. Like, they were, I hit a couple drives, and it was like, that was a 284-yard drive. Good job. And I was like, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:33 No, I've actually spent plenty of time on golf courses hitting it just like this, and that's not the case. It's almost like they, they tricked me like some back alley huckster, but they lied too far in that direction. So then I wasn't trusting any of the metrics whatsoever because that's like, that's a real deal drive that someone who's good at golf might hit regularly, not me like wearing a coat, just hitting it as hard as I can at the video game golf store. Like it's just, it's not true. You might have had your happy Gilmore moment and your self-esteem isn't high enough for you to wrap your arms
Starting point is 00:19:10 around it. No. No. I know how I can drive. I know the level of Houston of the Amigoff. I'm not hitting 300. Yeah. As you're walking out the door leaving, like driving out of the parking lot, some guy rushes out of the back. He might see that kid that was hitting him 300?
Starting point is 00:19:27 The machines miscalibrated. He was hitting him 350. Ready to go. That would be. great. Yeah, then that'd be awesome. Then maybe like a Sandra Bullet character could guide me through life like that movie The Blind Side.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah, he had to assume. You know what you're getting Taylor? I don't. I don't. No, I haven't asked. Jackie tried to like get me a few things and like actually have me give her a link to buy it for it. And I'm just like, then just
Starting point is 00:19:57 don't. I don't want to give you a, it's just buying something with extra steps on me. Forget it. I don't know what I'm getting of anything. It better be something. I don't care. Something dog related? Maybe like, do they need their own beds? Like, because I'm sure, or are you just reusing Ender and their...
Starting point is 00:20:17 That would be your gift for me? I don't know. I'm just trying to imagine something that's new in your life. Sorry. Jesus. You know what? You don't need a gift. I don't need a gift. I don't need a gift. I put that in my notes for this week that I'm just going to give Woody $1,200 cash for but let's each give each other $1,200 cash. It's just a complete transfer fee.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah, but we help helping the GDP. Pushing that up. The gift tax is $20,000. The like tax deductible gift thing is $20,000. So can't we just exchange 20s and avoid the tax on that? That's the limit. There's no fucking way I'm giving you $20,000. Well, I mean, we'd like.
Starting point is 00:21:01 We'll receive it. We'll do it like Indiana Jones grabbing an idol. We'll put the money on the table and we'll both kind of look at each other. That would be good. Woody, like, tricks both of us and we both think it's going in the other direction. We both send him 40. And then, like, the next week we're sitting here, it's it's 6 p.m. We're waiting and Woody's like Frank Abagnaling his way through an airport with our $40,000,
Starting point is 00:21:28 which is not enough to get on the show. on 40s. Oh, yeah, that's like two vacations or something. Like, where's you going to go? Yeah. Dude, that's like seven horrible vacations. That's true. It's true.
Starting point is 00:21:40 But it's like Mediterranean vacations. Like, we can, that's one of those vacations where you take the whole family, like in Home Alone. I don't know about you, but Home Alone set me up for some bad expectations for what Christmas is and vacations could be. You know, I was like, wait a minute. You're paying for your entire extended family to go to France? they're all in first class what did they do they never said they never said how they earned why they were so wealthy okay
Starting point is 00:22:08 they were like 40 of them they were all of first class yeah that's that's how you know the mix up happened there was some neighbor kid mixed in that had a poofball hat like kevin that's one of those movies where i remember the parents being super old because i watched it as a young kid but yeah then you check and it's like there's no way this bitch was 29 at the time of filming this this is insane people looked older back then they also like dressed older and like their haircuts like just say old like
Starting point is 00:22:38 it was like old people were afraid to update their style because like someone might say something to them whereas nowadays you see people going way too far the other way you see these 65 year old rock stars with like frosted tips and holes in their jeans and stuff and it's like I mean Johnny Deff is borderline
Starting point is 00:22:55 like he's still like weird cool enough I think to pull off some of the looks that he has. But last time I saw Billy Bob Thornton, he had like this big kerchief he was wearing and a hat. He's a weirdo. He's so fucking weird. I love him. I don't know. He didn't he. He's a good old Arkansas boy. Yeah, he ate Halliburie's pussy for real. Yeah. He fucked her pussy for real. Yeah. How could you, how could you not like that? And he's 70,
Starting point is 00:23:22 which does mean that this like weird pirate look is yes. Yeah. 70 years old. He's a very good 70. That changes. things a bit for me. He dresses like he's 14 still finding himself, but he aged well. Johnny Debt's 62. Sam Elliott plays his dad in Landman, and
Starting point is 00:23:42 I think he's supposed to be like 80 or 90 or something, but I think that they brought Sam Elliott in all frail and like decrepit because it makes Billy Bob look younger in comparison. Because when Billy Bob gets out of his F-250 pickup truck, it's like, oh, he looks
Starting point is 00:23:58 frail. His like shoulders are kind of their shoulders start moving up when they start getting frail it's like they're bracing for impact or something they're always care they're being so careful of a fall because they know it could be their last or something and they're like almost like a cat with its shoulders up the way they walk but not in a like a slinky way more in a like broken down old man way and that's what billy bob looks like in landman if i'm being honest like billy bob is supposed to be sam elliott's son and landman yeah let me see how old lamb em sam elliott is one year older than No. Sam Elliott is 71. 81. He's 81. Oh, I clicked off it too soon. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. There's a different number. 7.8.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Those are different. When you're right, you're right. No, but the way like Sam Elliott looks like shit in the show, I don't know if he's like. Yeah, you can't say some guy looks like shit when he's 80. He's still kicking. Oh, that's what I'm saying. I bet if you saw him at composing, he's doing well. Yeah. I bet if you saw Sam Elliott at.
Starting point is 00:24:58 a cafe you'd be like oh he looks fine but the way they've done him in the show he's meant to be like they're getting grandpa out of the retirement home and giving him like a few more sunsets at the big house basically is what's happening in the show right now and he's all old and sad yeah is lamb man good this year it's not as good and um because like the oil side of things has become like a lot of business shit and i don't get as much roughneck shit and i kind like that. And the person, the person, interpersonal stuff has become the, the, the mom and the daughter going around, get up to like hijinks, wearing very little clothes, which, okay. And, but, but then the part I don't like is, um, the relationship between that ugly redheaded kid and that beautiful
Starting point is 00:25:46 Mexican woman, like, like, that makes no sense to me or anyone who's got eyes. I read that there, I haven't even seen it, but I was reading about it. And it said that he was trying to do a lot of comedy this year with the mom and the daughter and Taylor Sheridan just doesn't do comedy well. And they pointed to some yellow, was it Yellowstone? Is that what it was called? Where like it's lowest rated one
Starting point is 00:26:10 had a lot of comedy in it too. So the comedy to me feels very repetitive and like the joke is always that the mom and the daughter are incredibly free spirited and and like bubbly and don't think another step ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And he's the white man who asked stomach it all and he's miserable about it he's always like well great you know she's like oh we're gonna have a pirate dinner tonight baby he's like whatever the fuck you want to do it's like why he's always so miserable and it's like i don't know man i think you're making a lot of money your son's a millionaire now and like your wife is a smoke show i don't like he's got into college like they're trying to throw a pirate party which to me sounds like a fun time for everyone it was looked amazing it was a pretty cool pirate party just like just a the costumes were
Starting point is 00:26:59 so we all get pirate costumes at the drop of a hat I don't know I mean it's not as good in these pictures that's all Johnny Depp owns like I think he I think he really
Starting point is 00:27:10 was too close to that Jack Sparrow character my wife had so many fucking pirate costume they're not costumes they're just her clothes and she'd come at me with like frilly sleeves
Starting point is 00:27:21 and I'm like Arr sound my stees are we and she'd be like this one too Oh my God. Where's your saving? Honey, explain the eyepatch. My girlfriend got new frames and she's like, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:27:39 And I'm like, you look like fucking Uncle Junior. She had new frames two days later. You look like you and your nephew used to run things in North Jersey. I made Uncle Junior jokes all fucking night long. I was like, I'm going to be honest about this one. Because otherwise I've got to live with these for like the next four years. good for you for standing up yeah yeah you could have that could have been a gift she's almost blind like you so she she she pays the extra money for whatever they call it when they're like the thin
Starting point is 00:28:09 ones low profile yeah but they're already so thick that like they can only take so much out and still have you be able to drive a car that's pretty fucking thick well she knows the struggle yeah yeah not dealing with that uncle junior is she not contacts ever all right glasses? Yeah, she mostly wears contacts, but like if she's studying at home or working from home, like she definitely wears the Uncle Junior glasses, although she got new frames, like I said, so they're not. It's more of a like quirky, like liberal look now, which I'm much happier with. Well, that's, I would prefer that look too compared to Uncle Junior. Yeah, like thick colored frames. Not brightly colored, but they're like a light brown type thing with some little like,
Starting point is 00:28:56 I don't know what you call that material that turtle black and brown yeah like turtle yeah maybe they would if I saw them but I don't think of turtle and black is liberal just like library I don't know like more the frame shape than like
Starting point is 00:29:10 the color or the style or whatever like the ones that I just they like a master of disguise yeah my grandma had those big square like pink ones they were pink and it was just like who that was a last
Starting point is 00:29:26 Nanny. He's like, these are my outside glasses or whatever. These are my going to town glasses. This is great. That's funny. My dad, I don't think it's pride. I think he just like doesn't want to be encumbered by like another accessory in life. So he just.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Glasses? That's the easiest accessory. It helps everything. He'll always have a scratched up old pair tossed on the dash of his truck. And if he needs to read fine print or something that he, can't like figure out he'll have to alright I see throw him back in the dash
Starting point is 00:30:01 people who do that don't actually have bad vision because you can function if you did oh it's close it's just this stuff oh okay you keep your glasses immaculately perfect clean and scratch free I have uh yeah scratch free well that's partially because I also pay for like the scratch resistant lenses which you only make that mistake thinking you're saving money once or like you get glasses
Starting point is 00:30:22 how much is a payer I think that's relative uh this was the frame I think I'm running right now are like 180 and then the actual lenses were like 300 400 and so like these glasses ran me like five five-ish overall yeah okay that's more expensive than my ray bands but still I'm like so anal about that oh really yeah they're complicated it so one of the things I correct is double vision if if I relax I have two images so what one of the lenses will be like a prism, you know, so you know, you look at it and sort of angles it. So that way I don't have to strain to like read for a long time or something like that. And it just makes the glasses more
Starting point is 00:31:04 expensive and is an optrician? Who makes the glasses themselves? The optetrician, the, no, that's the optometrist maybe. I forget. The optometrist is the doctor. Well, there's a similar name for the glasses maker. And you can't just go to anyone. You have to go to someone who can make these special prison glasses and get them installed right and stuff. An ophthalmologist? An ophthalmologist is an eye doctor and optometrist is a vision care provider
Starting point is 00:31:35 and an optician is a glasses maker. Oh, all right, there you go. You can see how I fumbled that. Yeah, I still. Those are, it's already gone. It sounds like that should maybe be one job. Yes, you have to go to like a high-end optician And then I pay extra for a bunch of things.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Like it's really important to be that there's no glare on them because I do this job. Yeah. And then, you know, sketch free and this, that, and the other things. So all the cost. Is yours itemized the when you buy it? Yeah, but it's been a while. The, because my left eye is the only one I have a stigmatism in, like this lens is like over twice as expensive as the other lens. Because it shows like if I didn't have a stigmatism, my glasses would be hundreds of dollars cheaper.
Starting point is 00:32:22 but to do the astigmatism lens boosts it up, which is pretty gay. I don't love your frames, and I've been very honest about that. I like lightweight big frames. Kyle didn't like my other frames. I didn't. And I was honest about it.
Starting point is 00:32:35 He was. I think these are my prefer. I don't know. You look like one of the fighting nerds when you've got those. Like these are rape in. These are exactly the glass as you choose for your sunglasses. And I had gotten compliments on these
Starting point is 00:32:51 while wearing sunglasses. They're like, dude, those fit you perfect. And I was like, all right, doom, I'm doing this for my all the time glasses. This is what they would look like. And I don't know. As I switched, I think I did like the other ones a little more.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I'm not sure. These aren't bad. Jackie saw me standing in the kitchen, just talking, right? We're hanging out, having breakfast. And she's like, you are so handsome. And I was like, where'd that come from? And she's like, I think it's the glasses.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I think it's that $1,200 you gave me for Christmas. what is like keep him coming yeah I think both of those are good I actually might like those are more these I would
Starting point is 00:33:30 look like the glasses of like the guy who reads me the fucking news on fucking CNN or something these look like a professional guy on camera's glasses
Starting point is 00:33:40 Taylor's glasses make me wonder if he strangles women that's absurd I'm more of like a smoke inhalation they asked for it first to Kyle. If they
Starting point is 00:33:53 wouldn't have been walking on the side of the road if they weren't looking for some action from Sierra Coat. No, these are good glasses. The thing is if, which you don't wear glasses, so you don't know. I have bigger, bulkier framed glasses with the same prescription in there with
Starting point is 00:34:09 big lenses. But they, they were so heavy that after like three weeks of wearing them, I was wearing them on the show like a couple of years ago. It was just after a few weeks of wearing them like, I was like, man, this is just uncomfortable. Like, if you wear glasses all day every day, You can like, when you take your glasses off, you can feel like the patch of nose skin
Starting point is 00:34:25 where it's like pushed down all day and it's almost smoother than the rest of your nose because it's like the little area being pushed down. And I was like getting a blister from those big heavy glasses. These ones are excellent. Huge lenses, the lightest weight glasses I've ever had. You know, maybe perhaps not the most stylish.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Maybe you're right. But as far as comfort, efficacy, longevity, these are, I love these. These are fantastic. Kyle, I Googled. that same picture. Yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:53 I bet they'd also stop a low caliber round, you know, if you were... See, like, this is the thing is, like,
Starting point is 00:35:00 the serial killers, I'm reclaiming these, this style of glasses. You're taking it back. We're taking it back. We're not letting... This is our look.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah. It is pretty similar. Yeah, but like, look at him. He was killing people. He was having sex with dead bodies or something like that.
Starting point is 00:35:21 He was drilling holes into black man's skull and dripping acid in to make them a compliant sex lay. Oh, wow. That's even, that's even worse than I. Does that work? Asking for a friend? He's like, ah, no, he died again. That's what he was, that's why he was, every one, he was a, it was a new experiment. He's like, ah, that was too much battery acid.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Let's try something else. What is the right amount of battery acid to bloods is one's brain. That's what he was wondering. That's exactly what he was wondering. All right, so this is from the TV show. but same glasses obviously hairstyle's a little similar to not even close he's got long blonde hair
Starting point is 00:35:57 I mean because he colored it oh I guess he did no that's not that's actually that's more similar to what it look like I don't know what that is I don't know that's just an old lady did that lady kill people
Starting point is 00:36:13 no and she doesn't have the aviator style either it's right over the time Rosemary West I don't know who Rosemary West is Oh, she was a serial killer. See, the photos of black and white, so that you've lost me there. Let's see. How many victims did you get Rosemary West? 10 plus.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Ooh. Was it poison? I'll have to read. Ed Kemper here. Ed Kemper here was a goat. That dude is like 6, 5, 300 pounds, or maybe bigger. Like, he's a colossal man. He drove around with his mother's head in a bowling bag.
Starting point is 00:36:45 How did he kill people? He fucked her mouth first. So different ways I think he would shoot and strangle a lot He was the one He was the co-ed killer So he would pick Pick ladies up
Starting point is 00:37:00 And give them rides Like college students Who needed rides in and out of town And he was like I would joke with these ladies Sometimes about Oh ho you gotta be careful who you get in a car with You know that killer is going around
Starting point is 00:37:12 And he's like sometimes I just be like I just let them go You know I just let them go If they knew who I was And they'd heard about me I'll just let them go, drop them off where they were going. It's just like so dark.
Starting point is 00:37:24 That's insane. You know that whoever was like producing. Like what a great picture that was on screen for a serial killer documentary or like news story. He's posing for it for the lulls. Like he's very self-aware of like the celebrity of serial killers. He's the guy who worked with the FBI when they were first classifying serial killers as serial killers. They were called Spree killers at first, right?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Spree comes to mind, but I don't think it is spree. Sequential was the first terminology, I think. Sequential killers because they kill in a pattern or a sequence, I think was the initial classification, but it's the research that led to serial killers. It's the topic of that Netflix drama, Mind Hunters, which is criminally good to have been canceled for two seasons. I don't know if I like sequential killer or serial killer
Starting point is 00:38:16 more serial is well sequential killer really refers to a type of serial killer if you think about it because there are those guys who like I mean presumably who kill in patterns like every September he kills another one because that's that's the year his mom like
Starting point is 00:38:32 killed what died or whatever whatever kooky thing is going on but then a serial killer could be somebody who's like whenever the urge is just too strong to fight they go out and get another one so they're not the same thing it's not just renamed I thought it was renamed But I'm just thinking, like, literally what the words mean.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Don't they both mean one after another? Am I crazy? Well, a serial killer wouldn't have any rhyme or reason, whereas a sequential killer you would imagine, but if you take the word literally, is going in a set sequence based on a date or some other kind of timing rather than just, like, urges or opportunity.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Seems similar to me. Seems almost like a distinction with that. Yeah, they're like. same words. My problem with serial killer is that it's a homophone. And it sounds like we're talking about some sort of breakfast time killer. I'm not here for it. That's what you. Yeah. Yeah. We need a better word. Sort of a Captain Crunch scenario where, okay, that's not what I go to. I think pretty good at it. Yeah, it's exactly what I said. I knew I was right. A sequence killer commits multiple murders over a time with distinct cooling off periods, days, weeks, years between kills driven by psychological
Starting point is 00:39:45 needs while a spree killer commits murders in multiple locations within a short frame of time and oh never mind I thought it was going to go to the other thing but it's just the same thing either way in any case Ed Kemper was my favorite three and sequential I could see not being the same thing
Starting point is 00:40:01 but sequential and serial to me are same word yeah I mean they replaced that word with the other word so pretty much the same thing I watched all those Ed Kemper interviews and I've also seen the ones where it's like him in the jail cell and he's like standing there te posing because he's like six foot ten
Starting point is 00:40:19 and it's like a female prison guard and then like clearly a shorter male prison guard but still a grown man like standing fully under both of his arms and they're smiling like he's a bit of a novelty and he was like more charming than you would expect in his interviews but every once in a while
Starting point is 00:40:36 it would not every once in a while pretty regularly he would just be obvious that like he was pretending to be a person really like he would they would ask about regret or this or that or what would you have done differently and it was more about things like well i don't know how much i would have done differently really um i think i probably would have ended up in the same situation and that's probably because of where how i was raised and it's like wow this guy like learned enough about you know pushing away accountability from
Starting point is 00:41:06 whatever prisonist like psychologist was assigned to him that he was just mirroring that being like you know it's really a societal issue and people i don't think so you to drop up I always read it as someone who had finally understood why he had done the things he did and had come to grips with it and understood it in a clinical way because he has met with so many doctors to try to help him get through that. His mother was abusive and horrific growing up, 6-9, 300 pounds. I saw a size comparison between him and his victims and they look like hobbits. Yeah, that's the worst kind of serial killer to attack you, a giant one?
Starting point is 00:41:42 I think it was him who like he drove the girl off somewhere it might have been him it's definitely a serial killer did this he drove the girl off somewhere and then he got out and went around to their side to get him and they locked the car doors and he didn't have his weapon with him he was just going to pull her out and strangler or whatever and he convinced her to open the door after like he's maybe half an hour of it of pleading and bargaining and apologizing for whatever she got spoofed gas lighting, and then she finally opened the door and he murdered her. She should have seen that coming. Should have seen that coming. It's wild how really bad people can still be charismatic. Sure. Like you can...
Starting point is 00:42:27 I think the worst people are charismatic. Awesome. I've heard pedophiles and like, you think they're going to do terribly in prison? And I guess they often do. But then sometimes they make friends and get popular because they're just, I mean, some of them can be major streamers aspiring pedophiles maybe and but the ones i see are
Starting point is 00:42:47 where like it's that giant ginger guy who's like you were gonna i'm not talking about burr pita where there's an aspiring pedophile streamer there's only one guy you look at oh we know that's a lot it's probably true yeah time yeah Dr. disrespect No Were they? Is that what he meant?
Starting point is 00:43:19 He didn't want people to forget Tempted pedophile Well that was That was his character I saw a thing the other day The video was like top in YouTube pedophiles It's got those like
Starting point is 00:43:33 Spike TV smash cut lists Like Oh 10 Coming in at number one Eat that pussy 4 5, 4 five. He lured a little
Starting point is 00:43:44 like he was on the list. EDP was on the list and then the doc was also on the list. EDP didn't he get caught like three times or something like after the initial one multiple times and he kind of just in a te he at least twice like his was like particularly weird and
Starting point is 00:44:03 embarrassing and like how'd you fall for that? Because like he had taken pictures of his poop because like I guess he thought this underage girl was into poop. she told him she was because the guys are clowning them and then they made fun of his weight when they got there and I'm pretty sure they were like and bring us some cupcakes. Bring
Starting point is 00:44:19 me some cupcakes when you come and he I think he had shown up with like a whole bunch of cupcakes. With an empty carton of cupcakes. He's like Morris Gump. I ain't so. That's hilarious. I was getting stressed out about meeting my 11 year old princess.
Starting point is 00:44:38 These guys are being taken advantage of though. I know it's a Shane Gillis bit But it's just the truth that I heard a thing the other day. There's a documentary about to catch a predator. I haven't watched it yet. And I think they have Chris Hansen in it. And they kind of like point the finger at him a little bit. Because like I heard this this phone conversation between the decoy and the pedophile.
Starting point is 00:44:59 First of all, it's immediately clear. This is someone faking a voice to me, a person of at least average intelligence. I was like, that's not a child. And she's like saying things that a kid wouldn't say. I'm painting my little pink toenails for you daddy and it's like it's a 45 year old woman
Starting point is 00:45:19 sitting in a fucking camera crew van with like three smelly dudes right now like and they're like oh yeah like it would be so funny he's like what are you wearing and she's like a diaper and like people
Starting point is 00:45:33 the next door are like too young too young too young too I mean the little girl's thing oh yeah little girl things that's exactly what i thought you'd be wearing like they're that stupid what do you want me to bring it's it's three for 15 any tisers and chilebert get off the microphone shut up didn't eat lunch we can't eat anything he brings he might drug it anyway i mean out in the pedophile van because i ate the poppers the jalvino poppers Yeah, a lot of those guys are, like, way below average intelligence and are being
Starting point is 00:46:17 manipulated. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's tricked into doing this thing. Like, they weren't out like a predator in the bushes looking for little girls. They approached him and like led him down this magical road where suddenly a girl is into you, which they've probably never had before in their lives. And it doesn't occur to them because they're sometimes borderline and retarded that they're being tricked. And meanwhile, the Chris Hanson crew just wants ratings. You know, they're trading this for cash.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You know, they have a profit motive in all this. I don't know. The only thing more easy than the pedophiles might be the way they catch them sometimes. I saw one where the guy they were like, quote unquote, catching was visibly like actually
Starting point is 00:47:02 mentally handicapped. And it was like, it wasn't the big guy, the fight for kids guy. It was some other like pedo hunter crew didn't even seem to be one guy just a bunch of people run around like at a ruckus and like a Costco and they were saying like you're a pedophile you admitted to being a pedophile and like it's a guy with clear mental handicaps like befuddled and confused and like he doesn't understand what's being asked of him or what they want him to do they're like you just said it you just said you're a pedophile you just said it to us and he's like I don't I don't know I am
Starting point is 00:47:35 I am like they're clear like he's in the mindset of like maybe if I agree with what these people are saying that I can go away and so like they were trying to pretend this guy who's clearly just mentally handicapped that they entrapped was like seeking out children at Costco do you remember that yeah yeah you remember the guy like they got him to confess to the murder and he was really just trying to get home in time to do his homework watch wrestling watch wrestling he was worried about school the next day and here he is being accused of murder and just didn't seem to understand the situation that those cops seem bad now of course we're watching a Netflix
Starting point is 00:48:17 story about them and I don't know if we got a fair representation of what went down but it looked bad and there was like here's his uncle who claims that his nephew acted alone the picture of the uncle he has like a gold tooth and like a like a fucking like a
Starting point is 00:48:32 magic eight ball is an eye like he's just a sinister looking guy ever It's like this guy's clearly Like kind of the ringleader of whatever's going on Yeah that was He ended up in jail And he's still in jail, right? I think he got released
Starting point is 00:48:46 And then maybe they took him back again I know there was a moment Maybe three or four years after the documentary came out Where they let him out If not for good for some period of time I remember seeing him like walking out of prison But they may have taken him back I don't remember the specifics
Starting point is 00:49:01 Brendan Dassey Yeah, let's see if he's still in He's 36 years old He is incarcerated at Oshkosh Correctional Institute In Wisconsin Life in prison But Possibility of parole
Starting point is 00:49:20 In 2048 Oh my God I hope he's guilty with a sentence like that And not to railroaded Yeah, we'll come check on you in 38 years Is that what we're doing now? I heard a piece of movie trivia. I was like, I wonder if Kyle knows this
Starting point is 00:49:37 because I think he'd appreciate it. Okay, Terminator 2, I think. You know the guy that played the liquid metal cop? Robert Packard. Did you know he was an elite athlete? Yes. And they had to film the kid runs away on a motorcycle scene. He caught the motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:49:55 He caught the motorcycle. Yeah, all right. He was also running without breathing through his nose the entire time because he trained himself to do so yeah dude that's cool because i see him now as an old man who's like peacemaker's dad it's yeah it looks like a ball sack it looks like a ball sack and he plays a bad person which makes me think bad of the actor because i'm stupid and uh it happened to be with the jack gleason who played joffrey uh jack gleason right i was like that guy's the worst until he died and i was like actually
Starting point is 00:50:28 well done. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that Terminator two behind the scene stuff. Yeah, he caught the motorcycle. He caught the fucking motorcycle. He was like, speed it up next time. What the fuck is you saying?
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah, that's a great scene. He's running like a machine and everything. Yeah, yeah. It's like me chasing the dog. Same thing. I'm sure if you saw it, you'd be like just like. Have you guys been keeping up with this fiasco
Starting point is 00:51:00 of the Brown University. Yes. Yes. This is the first time this has ever happened. What the fuck? It's a 2025 college campus. There's a Jillian cameras. Inside, outside. Like, how do you not catch? How do you not like, they should know
Starting point is 00:51:16 what dorm room he's staying in and they should have known what he had for breakfast on the way to do it. They don't know who he is if he's a student. I read there weren't as many cameras as you'd think. They're like one of the problems in catching them is the lack of surveillance cameras on that campus. I read it. I don't know. I thought all college campuses
Starting point is 00:51:32 had tons of things. You think nowadays? Yeah. I mean, it's okay to say. Just for girl's safety, right? Like, I want sort of cameras in the public places so that everyone knows don't mess with the girls. But how do you get off? Like, how does he escape? Like, how does no one
Starting point is 00:51:48 and did you see the FBI agents like doing their like, they were like kicking snow around? Like, like just like walking around lazily and their little investigation. Like they just, it just looked incompetent.
Starting point is 00:52:02 That doesn't be ridiculous if they get rid of them. Even though in a tweet, he was like, we've got a person of interest detained. And everybody was like, oh, got them. And then everybody lets their guard gown for a few hours. They detained a person who they thought might have seen something. Like, they didn't have the guy.
Starting point is 00:52:19 And that's all they've got now. They have persons of interest. And they keep having to tell because the media ran with a story. They're like, this is not the shooter. I need to be very, very clear. We just need to talk to him because he might have seen something. He was in the area, but he is not looking at you, the shooter. It seems like he fucked up the Charlie Kirk shooting thing too.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Like the sort of tale of events they gave with the assembly and deassembly of the gun, they just have it wrong. The gun doesn't even fit in that backpack. And the tools he used to deassemble it were like, on the roof maybe, but then they said he reassembled it later and it doesn't make any sense. He sucks at everything like Cash Patel
Starting point is 00:53:04 he has done a bad job his girlfriend seemingly. His girlfriend who he's like seemingly being manipulated by like there was like some foreign agent. Why would you say that? I don't even know maybe if they were really easy to follow
Starting point is 00:53:19 you don't think Googleize Patel can attract a 10? It's so funny that to know I am shot in a getting bushy out of nowhere I don't know where there's a massage agent over here did he was the guy
Starting point is 00:53:37 I think it was Brown University like where he wouldn't get out he can't tell but he's got one eye car or did you guys maybe maybe I'm in one eye on you maybe I got tricked
Starting point is 00:53:52 but I saw a story multiple places where before he like got out of the FBI van or whatever, the mode of transport to like the investigation. He didn't have an FBI jacket on. And he wanted an FBI jacket. And so he wouldn't get out until a junior female FBI agent gave him a FBI jacket. And then he demanded someone's patch so that he can put the patch there. And it's like this is the most absurd. And the whole time it's like the clock's ticking. Like, you already don't know who shot these people. Get it together.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Just incompetence at a level that's, like, that's shocking. It's rare that they get away when there's a shooting of this type. Like, they almost never get away. They had Luigi Mangione probably would have gotten away if he just not stopped at McDonald's and had been in a car driving toward the West Coast. Like, that probably would have worked out just fine. And then the Boston bombers, because of the nature of what they did,
Starting point is 00:54:49 obviously, they set bombs. Like, they were in the wind seemingly a little bit at first. Like, they could have gotten out of the state. But nobody has any clue who this guy even, what this guy even looks like. They don't know what race he is. They don't know what's a man. Because they keep saying, this person that's walking here, when you talk to them and this person that's walking here,
Starting point is 00:55:07 they have no idea the sex, race, or disposition to this person at all. Oh, they're all winter closed up. I saw one clear picture of him, but he had a mask on. And he had a winter hat. but it like it looked I would be shocked if that was a woman like it's that's definitely a fat man I mean they were looking they were running around looking at white vans for for for a month and a half with the DC snipers those guys were in a Lincoln town car or something I just you wouldn't want to just say for definitively it's not a woman it could be we don't know we're
Starting point is 00:55:40 only being fed like incomplete information this is also one of those stories that like it tends to be like a quick news cycle and we're talking about this on Thursday evening By the time this goes live Saturday, it could be, you know, a lot of figured out. Or it could be that ineptitude rains. I bet they don't catch this guy. It doesn't seem like they're going to catch him. Because they got, but they did have a, like I saw the head of PD. I got 10 bucks that says they don't catch him by the new year.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Done. There you go. Or negotiating. I would have taken by the next show. It would have been better entertainment value. Perhaps with a double or nothing. See, next week we could even adjust our wager maybe, maybe a double or nothing scenario. If it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, we'll keep this running.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I got a lot of bets coming in around January 1st. That's when the, like, I'm so hyped for the, I got into football a little bit this year. It's good. My man needs $1,200 quick. Yeah. You know what's funny? That's the exact amount of money I'll win if the Broncos win the Super Bowl. Wow, you're like, you're like Jerry Seinfeld, finding the 20 in his pocket.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Yeah. Even Stephen. If the Broncos win the Super Bowl, it's, it was, it was, it was, plus 1100 and I put oh it'll be 1100 then that I'll uh or a thousand that I'll win actually I bet a hundred and I'll get 1100 back but um and then I bet I think I don't remember what I bet on Georgia I think the odds were plus 500 and I think I put 100 on them Eagles were the best team in football last weekend so there's that nice do they have a buy are you joking or do they win by they won 31 to zero but the team they faced was not very good oh okay well I mean that's how you should handle
Starting point is 00:57:17 teams that aren't very good if you're good, is 31 to zero. I got to watch on Monday night football, Aaron Rogers beat the shit out of Tua, to a Vasca or whatever his name and fucking Emperor Palpatine hands. And they benched him. They benched their quarter billion
Starting point is 00:57:33 dollar quarterback. And I'm not a football expert, but all of the football experts that I watch on the internet seem to be like, that's it for him. You don't bench your quarter billion dollar quarterback in the in the hopes that what you're going to bring him back later no you would want him out there these last couple of games that don't matter to try to fix this they've given up on him
Starting point is 00:57:56 and they're putting the backup in to groom him for next season like i think they're on the hook for like 167 based on the article you sent me 167 million it's this tiered complicated deal but like their salary cap is going to have to eat like 35 million next year and like maybe 15 million the year after or something like that. Does this mean it's over? Because at least in other professional sports, like sometimes they'll pull the star out to try and wake up the rest of the team.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Like you were saying that he was getting sacked constantly. The O line was bad. Like that could be like a shock to the system where it's like, yeah, we're pulling our best guy out. Like you guys aren't worthy of playing. Like you guys stink right now, like trying to wake him up. Because sometimes like if a hockey player sucks and he's still on a huge contract and he's,
Starting point is 00:58:44 just phoning it in, they'll healthy scratch him for like two games in a row to be like, why do you think you're like owed a spot on this team? Like we just gave you a bunch of money. It's time for you to perform. And then usually they come back. The blues did that earlier this year. We're one of the worst teams in the league, fair enough. But this guy who got healthy scratch, came back, started scoring again because he got spooked. It could be that. Or it could just be that he's been like clocked in the head so many times that they couldn't let him get sacked again. I mean, he's a young guy. He's 24 years old. He was playing in Alabama just a few years ago, ruining my days.
Starting point is 00:59:14 And now he's, he's, he's reaping what he sowed, upsetting me. So, every night, every night, I get out my, I get out a voodoo doll of him every night and just thump it in the forehead real hard. He said, he's doing to him. He's leading the NFL in interceptions
Starting point is 00:59:34 this year. It's a fucking beautiful thing. When I hate, I hate all the way. Like, I hate all the way. You know, I, my man can't turn over the ball. twice on one possession, get on our level. That was incredible. That was an NFL record what Hertz did. That's his name right. Hertz. Yeah, Jaylor Hurts. Never seen before. Yeah, through an interception, the interception got fumbled. He recovered said fumble and then fumbled it himself. So, I&T, and a fumble by the same player on the same play. Never done
Starting point is 01:00:04 before. Best there is. Yeah. I've been having a good time watching football this year. I'm really psyched for the college stuff and for the NFL this year. because I've been watching both. Dude, I have a Discord set up from when I was live streaming, and I am not streaming anymore, so it's mostly petered out. The only conversations on there are giving me shit when the Eagles lose. That's all they talk about now. Memes and trash talk.
Starting point is 01:00:29 One of them scum. His fucking team has a losing record. Them cowboys, they suck. And he's still getting any shit. Misery loves company. You guys aren't out by any stretch of the imagination. You guys are probably going to clench. We're going to the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Yeah, we're going to win the NFCEs for the second year in a row. And they're giving me a hard time. We just won 3010. I'm dancing over here. If the Broncos don't win, I want my boy Matthew Stafford, who I think play. I know it's an LA team. It might be the Rams. The Rams and the chargers like uniforms look so similar that like I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:01:03 But Matthew Stafford was a Georgia quarterback for, you know, a good stretch of time. And it was during the Florida years. when they had Tebow and so now it's wonderful to see him he's probably the MVP this year I think it's going to be either him or the guy from the bills maybe like he had a fantastic
Starting point is 01:01:21 he came back from like 28 to nothing the other day in one it was something crazy uh that was a really fun game to watch I had to get a fucking new channel just to watch the football games because the distribution and broadcast rights are so jacked up
Starting point is 01:01:38 like I wish you could just have one channel that had all the NFL stuff on it but that doesn't work. Nope. They seem to make a lot more money by selling it to eight different companies and splitting it up. It's awful. I think even if you get like an NFL package, you've got your local games blacked out. So you have to get like something else.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I don't even fucking know. We'll see how. I can only watch a few games. The UFC got a ton of money from Paramount. You probably saw that on Red. Too much. They paid more for the UFC than they paid for like soccer and South Park. combined.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Yeah. Why? I mean, so the deal is this day. Is it growing or because it is growing? Oh yeah. It's definitely growing. But the deal,
Starting point is 01:02:21 the broadcast deal is this. There's going to be no more pay-per-views. Like we're paying 80. Some people are paying $80 a pay-per-view every week or any, or every numbered event for this thing. Paramount gets everything now. And it's just on their channel, which I have. So like,
Starting point is 01:02:36 that's where I watch Star Trek and some other shit. So the first event is January 26th. and it's a banger. I said it was Gaichi versus Pimbledon and Nunez versus Harrison, but the whole card is stacked. I can't remember the rest of it, but the whole card is a stacked card. They haven't done a card like that in a long, years.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Like, it feels like years since they've done a card. When is it? It's really soon, right? January or the 28th. It's one of the other. December or January? Oh, it's a month away. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Yeah, that's when the Paramount Deal does its first thing. I'm hoping that it looks a little. little different. That you can tell that this is a different product slightly. Like maybe there's I know he has his own like production camera crew and everything. So probably not. Dana White still run it. He still runs it. I'm hoping they get rid of Rogan in D.C. I think they do a bad job. Rogan used to be great. He was by far my favorite. And he did a lot of explaining like almost how to fight like oh, he's in a tough spot. This guy needs to get his hand by his ear to relieve the pressure. Now it's just screaming, oh, he rocked him, he's hurt, that leg is
Starting point is 01:03:44 compromised. Did he go too far towards color, too far away from like the play-by-play guy? Yeah, I think so. And I'm making this up, but I think he had some really big moments where he like got excited about something. And now he just fakes those moments, seven, 12 times a night. He and DC, Daniel Cormier, are like hugging each other. smacking around falling out of their chairs falling out of their chairs six times a night
Starting point is 01:04:14 they're falling out of their chairs I'm like get the fuck it's so insincere and bullshit sometimes you know when Leon Edwards kick tomorrow Usman in the fucking face
Starting point is 01:04:23 that blew me out of my seat I was like oh my fucking God that doesn't happen that's the shit that happens in a movie I lost like four and half rounds a guy loses four and a half rounds
Starting point is 01:04:33 and then like the music comes on and his coach is like listen to me this is fucking it you're never going to be back here we're at the top of the mountain and you don't have enough oxygen to come back you understand me you're 32
Starting point is 01:04:46 you got five more and the wind's blowing fast and it's and also it's cold and you're hungry and you're hungry and you pass the body with green boots on it you can't get it out of your head whatever he said to him flipped the switch because he went back out there and beat a guy that I didn't think could be beaten
Starting point is 01:05:03 he kicked him in the face and knocked him unconscious instantly and the guy was staring up at the ceiling with his eyes rolling back in the head and all of a sudden Leon Edwards is the fucking champion of the world. That was incredible. That was an incredible moment. And Joe Rogan fakes that moment
Starting point is 01:05:18 five times a night. Every night. Just every fucking time. I'll see what I don't like because I don't. Okay. So they've got a big cast. So there's a girl. There's a girl who does broadcast.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I'm fine with her on numbered events or fight nights. She's excellent. She's professional and she's well spoken. I don't dislike Rogan or D.C. I dislike them together. I think that you need to put Bisping with Rogan or Bisping with D.C. and have that be your card. Bisping is usually Eurocards that Rogan doesn't want to go to, it seems like to me. But still, and maybe John Anick, I think he does some of that shit too. But I think when you put Rogan and D.C. together, they're so,
Starting point is 01:06:01 they're like buddies it's like two buddies on a couch and it becomes more relaxed and it's like it's out of their head that there might be somebody watching who's never seen this before who doesn't know what they're looking at and the closest thing that rogan ever comes to addressing those people is to shame them like he's like yeah boo all you want this is high level grappling right here yeah see i saw it was marab the devalas villi was it was an old fight of his when he was fighting that jujitsu specialist this young jujitsu specialist with an afro white guy
Starting point is 01:06:37 and the guy anytime there's contact made he falls on his back and is like trying to like go for like ankle picks and like knee locks and Rogan is like this may look silly to you the crowd's booing but what's happening here
Starting point is 01:06:51 is like any moment I'll make up a name Brandon could rip Marob's knee off his fucking body at any moment it could be all over and he doesn't does the shit again, where he just falls down as soon as his contact and invites Marab to like come into his guard. And Marab just gets into half guard and punches him in the face
Starting point is 01:07:10 12 times in a fucking row until there's blood everywhere. And Rogwin's just sitting there like a dummy going, Or Mara Rob might just be one of the best fighters ever and he's just going to beat the shit out of his guy because he's so one dimensional that he shouldn't be in his cage right now. He should be in a jiu-jitsu tournament somewhere. Is the problem that Joe is bad or is it that Joe and DC are both color commentators and there's no play-by-play guy and they're losing the flow of the fight. Because that would be annoying watching a sport you're not intimately familiar with
Starting point is 01:07:38 and listening to two color guys talk past you. I think they're both very biased. I think they're both very biased and combining them together. They feed into each other and create this feedback loop of biases that end up just sucking all those Russian fighters' dicks and just praising even the most lay-and-prey version of ground games.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Like I'm all about jits in wrestling and Sambo and techniques and I if I see you going to north-south and I'm all right this is he's working he's doing a thing but when I see you fucking take him down over and over and then lay on top of him and grind out the next three and a half minutes so they stand you up and then avoid contact and then Bing Bing Bing next round you won that one fuck you dude go find a different sport I'm like when he was fighting he was like an anaconda like he'd get one hand on one ankle and then just work his way up and now he's hugging your ankles. Now he's hugging the calves. Now he has your wrist and they're trying everything they can to
Starting point is 01:08:36 stop him. But no one ever stopped him. He would just slither his way up, control more and more of your body, and then he'd fucking hurt you. Fists and elbows, breaking your nose, ripping open your ears, breaking your orbital, just raining down hell of the ground and pound. That to me is what grappling is supposed to set up. Now they just go for control on the ground, a lot of the recent guys and i'm like yeah i'm not here for that no no no you're supposed to be good at wrestling so you can deliver punishment the wrestling's not the end of it but they make it so it is do you think he's biased in favor of jits because that's his favorite style so he's dcc trained with these russian guys or dagostani guys and he's personal friends with them all and then rogan also is biased towards jits i think
Starting point is 01:09:23 like you said and it just leads to people who don't call fights very well it's better to watch fucking MMA guru and get because at least he's funny and so I'll put MMA guru on and I'll have his audio with the fight muted and that's my perfect mix or I like that a lot I used to like Joe Rogan's fight companions because they'd shoot the shit and then when the fight happened they'd be a little joking around which I kind of enjoyed but then they you know they break the fight down and they've used some behind the scene stuff because like maybe one of Joe's boys like trains with this guy's like you know I've been training with him actually that overhand right he's been working around that
Starting point is 01:10:00 look at his left foot when he throws and oh shit I'm glad you're here to tell me that but you don't get that from the current commentary crew I don't care for it very much that sucks good for MMA guru I like Dominic Cruz a lot you didn't mention him but he's one of my favorite commentators he's a dick he's not
Starting point is 01:10:16 nice and he doesn't care if you like him but I'm okay with that I think him and Bisping like butt heads yes they do he butts his with everyone I like them together like Like, don't avoid that. Like, we should disagree.
Starting point is 01:10:31 That, like, that's, that's better for the viewer. If Rogan had one take and D.C. was like, I don't think so, Joe. You're going to see in a minute. This guy's wrestling is going to overwhelm that strike. And look at it. They're just, they just arm punches. Like, he can't, he's not going to break through this guard or whatever. And I wish they disagreed and had different ideas about the outcome to come.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Like, I know they're so afraid now to mention betting and maybe they shouldn't. But at least tell me what you think is going to win. Like, put your ball. I was the ball on the table. Let me know what you think. I'm like, I want that, you know what? Five bucks. Five bucks is doesn't make it past round two. This guy via knockout. I'm seeing it. I'm seeing him develop it. Look, he just laid a trap for him. That guy's about to walk into it. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Like they have all those talking heads on there who claim their football experts, baseball experts, soccer experts, whatever. But they put their money where their mouth is and they make preseason picks or midseason. All right, we're in the middle of the season. Here's how I think things are going to shape out. I think that this team's going to win out. They're going to go number one. I think, and they have those charts and then they bring those charts back six weeks later and shame you to your face. I'd like if every night we had picks from the crew.
Starting point is 01:11:36 If it became a running joke like Charles Barkley or something that D.C. has never picked a fight. What do you even know, D.C.? You're down 15 fights to me over the last month. They do that in basketball too. I don't know. I'm sorry, cut you on. I don't know if they've done it lately, but like Barkley would always
Starting point is 01:11:55 he deliver his postseason picks with so much confidence and be wrong he famously said the three point shot won't work in the playoffs and now like every team has adopted it he's like yeah I mean it's good when it's good
Starting point is 01:12:10 but you can't count on it to land and you know you'll get knocked out of the playoffs then Golden State becomes a dynasty so that's the part of basketball that I actually like so much of it I dislike and I just don't think it's
Starting point is 01:12:24 I don't think they call the rules like as they're written and when they do it's so inconsistent that it feels more like entertainment than a sport. The same way in WWE like you'll have the guy pinned but somebody will hit the ref in the back of the head. It's like, okay, this is entertainment. I can't count
Starting point is 01:12:40 on this as like victors and losers because it's just not exactly fair all the time. But with three point shooting, it's like that's just all skill. That's what I always admired from it. Like we would do that like there was nothing to do in middle school gym. but shoot threes so we just sit there at the three point line and we'd all be shooting like in a
Starting point is 01:12:59 line like like single file and like there's always a ball coming back and we just shoot threes for half an hour every day like yeah and we keep score it was fun basketball rules are complicated and as much as i try to understand i feel like i don't get them all it's like i'm like dude that guy ran from the three point line and did a layup and they're like no no you don't understand that first step that was during the catch the second step that was during the gather and then they get two free steps and i'm like wait what when i run from the three point line they tell me i travel what do you do so special that's different but they have it all figured out there's a step back that looks like a travel but no the first step back is during the gather and then they're doing it i can't explain it i don't
Starting point is 01:13:44 fully understand and the line between good clean defense and fouling is so blurry that that it's and It can matter so much. Like at the end of a game when one team's up by a point or two and they call that foul that they haven't been calling the all game. It's like, damn it, this is entertainment, not a sport. What is going on right now? You're just going to steal the game from my boys? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:08 I can't get into basketball. I don't think I ever will. That's fair. I'm there with baseball, so I get it. I want to get into your F1 racing shit. I watched that Brad Pitt movie. It was really good. and and it's a little inspiring
Starting point is 01:14:24 but I saw someone read it the other day that said it was like F1 fans reaction when the richest guy and the fastest car wins again and they're all like the the barriers to entry to being an F1 driver are so enormous that it's hard not to get in there
Starting point is 01:14:49 if you don't come from a very wealthy family because no one really funds you during your like go-kart and early days. And the best of the best drivers might get into some sort of program. Like Lewis Hamilton, I think, kind of earned his way to where he is. But even he had a fairly wealthy family. Most of these guys, you know, their parents need to be worth at least 80 million for them to have a shot at this game. And it's rough. One guy, Lance Stroll, who I'm the only guy who likes this guy.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Everyone else hates on Lance Stroll because his father is a multi-billionaire. who owns the team and they're like he'd never have this seat that's what they call the job he'd never have his seat if his father didn't own the team may be true but he is not the worst of these 20 drivers why are you picking on like the 14th best driver when there's six more behind him yeah i had a friend in high school who's like dream i suppose was to become a NASCAR driver and he was doing he had been doing go carts there's lots of stages of go kart racing that start with like little bitty kids the words like that's kind of fast for a six year old isn't it and then like he was driving in he was going really fast by the time we were in high school and they were talking
Starting point is 01:16:02 about getting his first like dirt track cars like that was already the next step because he was 15 or 16 or something like that and he was a little guy too which i don't know how much help that is but he must have weighed 90 pounds and like i feel like carrying around 110 pounds might matter over the course of 500 miles but i don't think he ever made it. it, but that was my introduction to like, I didn't know how you got into NASCAR, but I think it has more of a grassroots system, or at least a better one, than
Starting point is 01:16:29 F1 does. NASCAR news a little bit today. Do you know who Greg Biffel is? I just know the name, so not you know. Him and his family all died in North Carolina today in a plane crash. Oh, I read I heard about a plane crash. I didn't know he was on it, though, just north of Charlotte, right?
Starting point is 01:16:45 I think it was a Sessner or something that lost the entire hour on landing and exploded into a fireball. that sucks did you watch Trump's 18 minute speech all right so here's the thing was it talking about Venezuela
Starting point is 01:17:00 like it was a lot of stuff I saw a few like outtakes from it so you're definitely going to be able to fill us in but what I wanted to mention before you got started was he preempted the season finale of Survivor it was in the middle of the season finale of Survivor and then Trump comes on
Starting point is 01:17:19 for 20 fucking minutes in the middle of the so people missed out to see who got voted off? They started it again like after the show but I thought the last episode was live I'd be peeved if I was really into Survivor and then the president
Starting point is 01:17:35 starts talking about shit right in the middle of it complained about that and I was like Survivor season 94 is that a big deal? If you're excited to watch every little reason to be upset with Trump and I'm like ah this is what I'll pass on
Starting point is 01:17:50 That's more. If I'm like in the, if I'm in the middle of like the Bobby Hill self-defense episode on TV and then suddenly it's like, my fellow Americans. And I'm like, what the fuck? He was right about to say, that's my purse. I don't know you. And now he's now and now I have to watch some gay political speech. This is like my favorite part of a Trump administration when shit's going off the rails and Trump is like, me and me. alone can fix this. Let put me on TV for 18 minutes. And he starts talking about how prices are not high, how he lowered the prices of drugs by 600 percent, how this is the best economy that we've ever seen ever in all of American history. And it's just like an 18-minute speech that had the fact checkers busy for hours. And I'm like, it's like COVID. Any day now, it's going to trickle down. Any day now, we're going to be, we need an umbrella because the amount of success that
Starting point is 01:18:49 that will trickle down. Oh, I don't know where my $4,000 doge check went or my $2,000 tariff check went. But the, I think the $1776 will actually come to the military. And I'm not joking because it's already allocated. Basically what happened is they decided like housing costs went up so much. They're like, oh, the housing we're paying the military isn't adequate. So we're going to give them this like extra money. So Trump just rebranded it as a warrior bonus like from him personally.
Starting point is 01:19:19 and I guess it'll actually go out. I saw someone making a funny joke about that where it's like this is actually a genius move by Trump giving $1776 to all of the military personnel because he knows this will immediately stimulate the economy via down payments for Dodge Hellcats. I thought that was very funny. But yeah, that is so so absurd.
Starting point is 01:19:45 I'm going to talk to the country. I thought it was going to be more than 18 minutes. He only talked for 18 minutes. it's right yeah it seems like when they block off time for that shit you like you kind of want it to be a cool half hour like something that fits into no
Starting point is 01:19:59 Oval office addresses are always like whatever time the president needs because the big ones I remember are every time Bush would start a new war or give us an update about the war or you know 9-11 stuff in the wake of that we got some historic Oval Office addresses where it felt very much like the important part of a movie
Starting point is 01:20:19 where you sit up and like he's about to say some shit that's going to affect the planet like where he's about to decide how many countries he bombs and how big the bombs are let's let's pay attention here um and they'd be six minutes or 12 he was talking about the bombing of the boats he's like these bombs they're hundreds of thousands of pounds and they go bing bing bing bing when they hit i thought you were going to go bing bing bong because he He used to do that. He's just where he freestyles, where they're like, Mr. President, say we're saving American lives by bombing these boats.
Starting point is 01:21:01 And he's like, we're taking the boats out. Everyone's talking about it. A lot of people aren't happy. I'm happy. A lot of people are happy, too. These bombs, folks, they're the biggest bombs, the best bombs. The bombs that I wouldn't waste these on people who weren't killing Americans, believe me. And it's like, he's just, then he's just riffing.
Starting point is 01:21:17 And that's what I wish so much is that, he went into that, that he had a mic with like a long string that he like would walk back and forth as he like a comedian kind of whips it out where he's like, and that's what I've been talking about people, like just walking across like in the behind the desk, the desolate desk. That would at least be entertaining. He did do a good thing today though. He rescheduled marijuana. Yeah, but that's an EO.
Starting point is 01:21:42 I wish that was true. Like EEOs like seems like a lot of EOs don't actually get enforced at all. Biden did the same thing. He's like, I'm doing it a day. order to talk about a study that might reclassify it as Schedule 1 and nothing got done. And now Trump is doing the same. He didn't reschedule it was classified as Schedule 1. He said, you're right.
Starting point is 01:22:02 It's currently one and he's moving it to three. He's like, I'm writing an executive order to think about making it Schedule 3. Like it seems like a lot of executive orders are just like, no matter what side of politicians on or president's on, it's just like red meat where it's like, hey, I wrote a little memo that you'll like. It's never going to be enforced, but it'll get reported on and give me some nice attention. I think he did it, Woody. Like every news report I said, like the verbiage is really, Trump signs executive order reclassifying cannabis. That's great if you do.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Trump signs executive order fast-tracking reclassification of marijuana. Trump signs executive order expediting marijuana class reclassification. Trump expands access to cannabis in a major shift to drug policy. What Trump's reclassification for marijuana means for you? Nothing. Let me see. Because I read about it today right before the show, and I want to see, am I right or am I wrong? I wanted to look up Class 1 drugs to sort of understand, like, what those are.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I think it's things like steroids, I think codeine and Tylenol are in there. Class Schedule 3. Schedule 1. Oh, no, yeah, yeah, 3, 3, which is marijuana. I think Schedule 1 is like heroin and it was weed. It's like. It is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Uh-huh. I don't know about meth, but. I don't know either. I just guess. but it was things like steroids and things like that we're in class three oh and ketamine and ketamine is class three well I know a lot of people use ketamine and get solid results for like therapy and shit so that seems good you should improve vaccines to that if it helps people Zach and I were talking about this before the show I haven't read into it very much I just
Starting point is 01:23:39 watched his he did it in the Oval Office with a bunch of doctors and lab coats around him and at one point he even said like I won't be using it but a lot of people seem to want to or whatever so here you go like it was kind of like that i'm not convinced he's even on ozempic anymore because the weight loss would have been more rapid like they may have had to take him off and put him on that alzheimer's drug that they all that they say he's on no that ozempic would probably help with alzheimer's too get that fat dislodge out of your brain make things work again maybe i don't know get all those years of McDonald's oils but i think reclassification won't really it'll affect how people are prosecuted perhaps but i think the main
Starting point is 01:24:18 thing is that it will open up avenues of finance for marijuana research. I think it was difficult to fund research, especially get government grants for research into a Schedule 1 narcotic because part of the verbiage in the Schedule 1 narcotics description is that it doesn't have any medical benefits or therapeutic uses. Like that's in there like verbatim. So you... I like the laptop part. Like it would be nice if when I went to my local dispensary, those people had lab coats on. No way. No way. It would feel more efficacious. It would feel more. That would lure more boomers in because they'd be like, oh, well, this kind of makes sense. Like they wouldn't be as put off by it. When I see a pharmacist wearing a lab coat, I'm like, what a fucking poser. Like, what a
Starting point is 01:25:05 fucking poser? Like, you think you're a doctor? Do you think you're a medical professional even? You pill-counting bitch? And then they kicked me out. Now I got to go to write a set of Walgreens. Lines twice is long there. I got tons of discounts during COVID by going around in places in a doctor lab coat with one of those like reflective metal pieces on my forehead. I brought my syringes. I injected a lot of people. People hated it. They said, I didn't ask for this. I said, I'm saving America. They said, why are you using the same needle over and over? I said, I'm a scientist. It's sterile. It's sterile. It's sterile. By the way, I went to the alcohol department in Dick. it in a bottle of vodka before I came to you. So it's clean. I don't think vodka's alcoholic enough
Starting point is 01:25:52 to the Associated Press says he signed an order that could reclassify it. But I have seen other things said that he did reclassify it. I just don't know what's true. Hopefully he does. That would be like a nice little tiny tiny, tiny bright moment. I remember defending Biden and one of my things was like, you know, he just said that they're going to reclassify it. And didn't get done i guess i if i had to wager i agree with you that this is like a eo that's not going to be enforced it won't move forward it'll be a little news cycle hopefully not want to be wrong yeah like just because he's not my guy doesn't mean i hope he doesn't do good things become my guy earn it yeah i i agree do something worthwhile do something good for for americans
Starting point is 01:26:37 instead of just foreign countries um did you guys see the uh the rob reiner son thing that the the story, horrible story, but it came out that it was like reporters saying, Bill Hater had a huge argument with Rob Reiner's son at Conan O'Brien's party, like an explosive argument. And then he went home and like stabbed his father and mother and was between him and his father. I heard that he argued with his father and like a really bombastic loud argument. And then I heard he had an argument with Bill Hader as well. And some piece of shit journalist was like accosting Bill Hater the day after this. Like Bill Hader's like stressed on his phone like pacing outside, clearly upset about this.
Starting point is 01:27:27 And some cunt is like trying to lean on him and be like, what do you know about? And it's like this is. Was the argument real? Because you guys heard different things. I'm lost. There was definitely a loud argument at Conan O'Brien's party the night before. I thought his father was involved. it's very possible that it was his father
Starting point is 01:27:43 and Bill Hader involved arguing with the son, maybe one of them had the others back or something or was trying to intercede. But I heard that I think the daughter found the body the next day around noon or 3 p.m. or something. But then they said that Billy Crystal and Larry David were there before the cops, like their neighbors.
Starting point is 01:28:00 And I can't think of a worse group of men to come save me if I'm potentially like in trouble. That's Billy Crystal and Larry David's feeble Jewish asses. They're both like, 85 year old frail jewishman like i i don't think they got there until bob rider and his wife were long dead which is like i heard reports initially that a family friend found the bodies and in my head i'm like please let that be the truth but then
Starting point is 01:28:28 it came out i think fully like factually that it was the daughter that found it and that's like that's i can't imagine a trauma like that like uncovering your dead father your dead stepmother murdered by your own brother like your life is destroyed your your life will never be the same it's destroyed this trauma can't be like healed or moved pat like this that is tragic that's like violently with a knife though like like it's it's going to be there would have been blood everywhere you know they were and it would have been a big trailing scene as the knife fight progressed through the home it's not like he's a commando and he like the son was a drug addict, right?
Starting point is 01:29:12 Yeah, I think Rob Reiner and his son had worked on a movie before because I've seen a lot of those clips going around. And it's really heartbreaking because it's like Rob Reiner recognizing his son has like a serious drug addiction with like, I don't know the exact drug, but like real deal drugs, hard drugs. This isn't pot. Like he's on the street. And Rob Reiner like clearly loves his son, cares about him, like wants to help. And is.
Starting point is 01:29:37 And then you see these interviews and the son's like eyes are. not at all in concert with what he's saying like he looks out of it even in these old interviews about the movie made about him and you can almost see like a really sad wish casting of like rob bryner trying to be like yeah and we're past this now you know we have to always address it and like handle this but like we're we're moving past it together i have a better understanding of my son and like why he felt so bad to turn to these things it's it's horrible it's like it's like a scene that if it was in a movie you'd be like this is so uh tragic and cruel this is like almost unrealistic.
Starting point is 01:30:12 But he had such a string of hits in the 80s and early 90s. I'm looking right now, it's like a few good men, misery, when Harry met Sally, a princess bride, stand by me, spinal tap, an American president. Like he, like for six or seven years there, they were just all. I didn't know he did misery. That's an awesome movie. It's almost out of character.
Starting point is 01:30:34 When Harry met salary, Princess bride, stand by me. If you told me that the same guy did all those. I'd kind of buy it. Then you throw misery in there and you're like, whoa, range. Yeah. Yeah. We can't talk about this without mentioning Trump making it about him. Like the most narcissistic. People are calling it the most narcissistic post of all time. He's like that was, that was just needlessly cruel. Like why? It's reportedly due to the anger he calls others through his massive, unyielding, incurably affliction with the mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome. He thinks that's why his son killed him.
Starting point is 01:31:08 It's like, it's about you, Trump? It's about you. you think he killed him in defense of Donald Trump? I don't know if there's ever been a more tone-deaf poet. Like, that's just cruel. That's cruel for cruelty state. I don't like that. Finger on the pulse of like what people wanted to hear Trump. And he's just losing it.
Starting point is 01:31:24 He's in a little silo where the only people he hears are his big donors seemingly. Like he doesn't know how off-putting that is to a lot of people who are like, like, what the fuck? Like, this is a director. I don't know a lot about Rob Reiner. I know he didn't like Trump, but it's like he made, he made movies. and shit, like, and then he died and like the most, okay, sure, fine, whatever, but like, he's still a private citizen
Starting point is 01:31:45 and he's mostly a guy who made movies. Who cares if he hates Trump? He's why you can't smoke in restaurants anymore. I know that. All I knew, literally all I knew about Rob Reiner when I heard that story was the South Park reference episode to him. That's all I knew about him.
Starting point is 01:32:02 I had to look it up and be, because I haven't seen those other movies he made, but misery. I was like, oh, misery, that's a sick movie. Like, that's really good. I like that. You haven't seen a Princess Princess Bride? Oh, no, a Princess Bride,
Starting point is 01:32:11 yes, I've seen that. Yeah, as a kid, and I liked it a lot. I liked Andre the Giant. I thought he was so cool because he was so big.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Enigo Montoya is my favorite, though. Like, I love that guy. He's solid. Yeah. Good choice. I liked, who is that guy?
Starting point is 01:32:25 What's the actor? Carrey you. Caroleon. Oh. Who's like, never get in a battle of wits with a Sicilian. He's like,
Starting point is 01:32:34 oh, you're deadness on the line. Ha ha ha ha! Ha! Ha! I don't know who that actress But I love that guy He's so funny
Starting point is 01:32:43 He's still acting He's still kicking Good for him He plays a semi A recurring character In Star Trek With a bunch of shit on his face And every time he comes back
Starting point is 01:32:51 With that little voice You know who it is That's great I don't know that was him He's the Grand Nagas Of the Ferengi Jesus Christ Yeah
Starting point is 01:33:01 I like to mourn Princess Bride Me too Me too That was his best character Yeah. Anyway, that was like indefensible. I didn't know. I don't know who would read that post from Trump and be like, this is a good take. This is good. This is a good way to respond. And then Michelle Obama is on, I think Jimmy Kimmel, and she's like, Rob Reiner was a wonderful man. He was not deranged. He was generous. He was kind. He was caring. Like she killed it. Like they're lucky Michelle Obama doesn't want to deal with the bullshit of running for president. you think she'd do well I think she'd win
Starting point is 01:33:41 maybe Michelle Obama I don't know yes she would have to earn my vote she starts in a hole like I she's got
Starting point is 01:33:49 she's got homie whether though you know like he's coming too oh like your low key voting for her for a Barack by her number one advisor is going to be
Starting point is 01:33:58 Barack Obama and I feel like Barack Obama if he's like I don't think we should drop that bomb she's gonna listen she's gonna listen
Starting point is 01:34:07 sweet I know you really, a woman to help you with this whole president thing. But I've told you're gay and I want to hang out on the beach. I think highly of the Obama, but I also think the more time you spend in power, the more you get corrupted. I would rather have somebody different. I'd rather have somebody good than somebody different. We're in such a...
Starting point is 01:34:29 Oh, come on. Dude, we don't look. Good people aren't allowed to get that high, dude. Man, we stepped outside the fucking line. a couple years ago and you see what we got. We're trying to start a war with Venezuela for some reason. I don't understand. Oh, it's to keep imaginary fentanyl all out.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Look, man. Even if that's true, there's a lot going on that I'm not comfortable with and I would love a traditional button down fucking professional elegant statesman. Like, does that not exist anywhere? Give me a
Starting point is 01:35:01 fucking engineering nerd from fucking Harvard or something. Give me an economist. Someone who like You think some, like, nerd goober is going to be popular enough? Some point extra egghead is going to be like, I'm, no, I'm saying, like, you need to realize how people vote and why they do. And the reason that, like, Nixon killed JFK for everyone who listened to the radio debate thought Nixon slaughtered him and everybody watched TV thought JFK slaughtered him. And that's because that's what matters in, in politics. You know, that's the election where black people switched and became Democrats?
Starting point is 01:35:34 I didn't. Martin Luther King was in prison. and his wife called, got in touch with Nixon. He said, is there anything you can do for us? He blew her off. She called JFK. He said, I'll do anything I can for you. She calls like some Ebenezer Baptist Church big wig,
Starting point is 01:35:50 and he lets every congregation in the fucking country know, we're Democrats now. And the voting in 56 or whenever it was, Republicans had 60% of the black vote, and in 60, Democrats had 70% of the black vote. it's a quick swing I think of every president we've ever had just and actually you can't say this
Starting point is 01:36:13 because we don't have audio recordings of all of them Nixon might have my favorite voice like the most unique voice that's like the most novel Trump might be up there Obama's cadence is up there Reagan not even close oh I just mean like as far as novel unique voices
Starting point is 01:36:32 I'll grant that it's novel and unique I feel like if you're speaking to someone, you have an obligation to keep the pace up to something. That's fair. Yeah. Right. And Obama takes so long to get his words out.
Starting point is 01:36:46 I'm like, bro, you're losing your audience in this sleep rest. He's too big on pregnant pauses because he'll say stuff like, my advisors were telling me to, not bomb that wedding. And I told them.
Starting point is 01:37:01 I said, I'm bombing it. And it's like, well, You could have said that in a better little, little bit of cadence. You could have been more professional. Right. Yeah. And now I see other, I don't know how to say it eloquently, but like other black politicians kind of do Obama impressions.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Hockey Jeffrey seems to do Obama impression. Gavin Newsom is doing an Obama impression constantly. But I'll look for it. Yeah. And I'm like, dude, don't just copy Obama. Be your own guy. That's okay. There's plenty of room for lots of different people in this.
Starting point is 01:37:32 You don't have to copy Obama. like there's only one recipe. I watch these Nixon interviews that are post-presidency after he's, you know, had to resign and everything. It's a few years later. He's so articulate and intelligent and knowledgeable on every subject they talk about. It's like, oh, no, we don't have politicians like that anymore. Like, it's, I'm listening to him like nodding along.
Starting point is 01:37:55 I'm like, he's hitting about 90% of my brain like capacity like right now. This is, this is good. He's being specific. He has numbers. He has names and he has historical reference. He's a nerd. He's the kind of guy you wanted, like a complete and total eco-policy. More recently, nerd. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich would both hit that bull's eye for you, too. Those guys knew their politics, and they spoke well and they could be convincing. I don't think a Bill is a nerd, though. I see Gingrich as a nerd for sure. I see, I see Bill is like cool. like he or at least back then he was like everybody was like this guy's like chill he had a cool aspect to it when he played saxophone i think it was saxophone on the arsinio hall show i was like
Starting point is 01:38:40 holy shit a president that could like do something i've never seen this yeah oh like he's good looking he's he's he's really um i think he's very very intelligent he always seemed whether or not he knows anything about fucking dark matter who knows but when it came to policy applying it and how the wheels of Washington work and then also had that like worldly knowledge he was dealing with all that with Kosovo and all that stuff like he lost a B2 bomber at one point
Starting point is 01:39:08 he kept us out of wars if I remember correctly some of the nerds debated it via air strike only keep us out yeah love that love that some of the politics like the politician nerds though are so like obsessed with their own little sector that they never
Starting point is 01:39:24 leave it and gain mass popular like like Rand and Ron Paul like clearly total fucking nerds but they're so like ideologically beholden to these like a few select things that are just really unpopular with most people like they just not I respect those guys though
Starting point is 01:39:42 I think I think watch me be wrong but they're operating on with what they feel is moral clarity doing the right thing and even if I disagree with them I stand by it Massey and AOC two politicians who couldn't be farther apart, further apart, I'm like, well, and although I think they're both coming from their own
Starting point is 01:40:03 idea of right and wrong, what it's supposed to be. Whereas you look at the speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, I think. He, uh, he's not coming at it from a position of right and wrong. He's a slimy little, he'll go wherever. Yeah. Exactly. And he doesn't have any principles other than try to keep this job. And that's what I don't like. I'd rather have Massey, who I disagree with on like 99% doing what he thinks is right, then Mike Johnson doing what's right for him. Yeah, Massey doesn't seem like a bad guy, but I also
Starting point is 01:40:34 don't know enough. Like I saw people like ripping on him being like, oh, you voted for this spending plan under Biden, but you won't do this one because of some other thing. And it's like, you know, if this is the big instance of hypocrisy, then he's probably like a million miles ahead of a lot of these other people. Like these ghouls who don't even pretend to be consistent. like they'll just go on CNN or Fox and say something and then the next day with no
Starting point is 01:40:59 with no moral quandary about it at all just go and say the opposite that shocks me did you see them ask Van Bondi or maybe it was the other one that shoots the puppies they asked her how many veterans she had she had kicked out of the country and she's like we haven't kicked any veterans out of the country and he immediately goes we're now going to go via Zoom call to Joe here. He was wounded fighting for us and received a Purple Heart in 1989. You kicked him out of the country about three months ago to go back to Korea, a country he hasn't been in since he was seven. Joe, you there? And then it would be funny. Just to see a Korean guy and then just have his voice be like, happy to be here, John.
Starting point is 01:41:50 completely an American. Yeah, he's an American. She's an idiot, like a true blue moron. They all look bad. They're all incompetent. It's all about who you know. It's about loyalty and looks.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Because he's got all those fucking blonde bimboes who can barely do their jobs, clearly. They're all a bunch of Mar-a-lago-faced ladies who seem incompetent. Like he's never, look, if you're going to be picking the best and brightest, there's going to be some ugly women in the mix like if you look at those graphs
Starting point is 01:42:23 of intelligence it's mostly going to be ugly men it's mostly going to be like RFK Jr. too right this guy's a self-type this guy's going to be on our show pitching red light soon and that's the level of like self-taught doctor he is and
Starting point is 01:42:41 he's leading everybody wild did you see the Bondi Beach shooting because that was one of the like wilder shootings I've ever seen Well, I saw it ended. Oh, Oxby, Australia one. Yeah, it's a Hanukkah celebration on Bondi Beach in Australia, which is, coincidentally, I suppose, there was a knife attack there last year, I think, around this time, where some lunatic went around stabbing a bunch of women and children or something like that. Was it Jews, too?
Starting point is 01:43:07 Because apparently this is something like the Jewish community there does. I think it was women last time specifically. It could have been Jewish women. I don't know. Or maybe it was a random stabbing. I think it was also an Arab guy. But in any case, like, these two guys had long guns just. murdering people in the streets
Starting point is 01:43:22 and some hero I think he's also an Arab his name is like Amad Alamad or something in the video he's just sprinting full on toward this guy with a shotgun and tackles him from behind and wrestles the fucking gun away from him and points at him in my head I'm just
Starting point is 01:43:39 I'm watching cheering going shoot him shoot him I wanted that guy's head to come off so bad and then Amad Amad to be like like go to work like I wanted that too But then he doesn't. He doesn't. Why was he in the hospital?
Starting point is 01:43:53 How do he get hurt? Well, oh, did you? So initially the story was that while he was trying to wrestle that long gun from the dude, that the guy with the long gun, he was trying to, the terrorist, shot him. And that was what his injury was. It turns out the Australian police shot him after he disabled the terrorist. And a couple of the Australian police officers, like, there are images of them like hiding near the car while this is going down like a couple lady
Starting point is 01:44:25 police officers didn't do too hot of the Texas town where we did that oh the school shooting they basically they pulled a less a less time restrained version of that or I guess maybe even not that less time restraint because it did take like Kyle said a shop owner to run over and tackle the guy to neutralize the the second shooter because the first shooter had been shot and killed when he that was neutralized I think right no no now they end up like coming together on that arch bridge together one of them is either unarmed at that point or has a gun that I can't see maybe a handgun but they die there on that arch bridge together but there was also a Jewish couple like some old people who tried to take down the other
Starting point is 01:45:08 guy and they like fought him but he killed them both that's on video too that's it was it was clearly like the shooters just wanted to target the Jews on the beach because there were other people in the parking lot like non-Jewish Australian people walking around and there's a clip of the guy with the gun like waving them away like get the fuck out of here go away I don't want you here I don't want you interfering with what I'm doing right now you come close to me I'm going to fucking add you to the list but get the fuck out I'm not wasting ammo on you guys I'm trying to shoot this Jewish celebration on the beach like that's what they were there for well it's like that Christ church shooter in New Zealand that went into the mosque and shot all those people up
Starting point is 01:45:48 like dozens of dozens of people. In the video, you know, he's wearing a GoPro the whole time. And in the video, he's interacting with tons of white people on the street. Like, he even goes to an intersection and someone cuts in front of him when they probably shouldn't have. And he's like, honk, hon, come on, come on. He's got his rifle in the seat. Like, he's looking for more victims.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Yeah, he's looking for, that's one of the shooting footage. I wish I hadn't watched the Christ's so long. It was really upsetting. The length of it, yeah, where it's just the thought. So many victims. And the, I'm trying to remember, but like the building layout, I always put myself in the position. Like, what would I do if I was here or whatever? Like, how would I handle this shooter?
Starting point is 01:46:29 Dude, it was hopeless. There were no, like, other doors you could easily get out. He just had him cornered and trapped. They were piled up the bodies, and he was just shooting into the piles of bodies. And it's like, you don't know what you do in a situation ever, but like, I'd like to imagine I would run at him. You know, once we know death is certain. And in the movies sometimes, they make you dig your own grave. And I'm thinking, like, man, you're going to give me a shovel and a chance?
Starting point is 01:46:56 Like, I'll pretend to dig for a little while. But once I start getting Blisties, I'm coming for you. I remember the layout of that building. And I remember seeing the people huddled in a corner, like trying to seek shelter behind each other. And like 10, 12 feet closer to the center of the room was the opposite hallway. Like a hallway went into a large room and then there's a hallway leaving that room. and I just remember watching it thinking like just go just go like you have nothing to lose sprinting to that part of the hallway
Starting point is 01:47:26 and like hope there's an exit that way but everyone's like frozen it's just you don't know how you would respond that was a rough one that was definitely a rough one and it was it was maybe the only one I've ever seen where the killer wore a GoPro like that and you saw everything you usually hear you'll usually see maybe some security footage or just the story of what happened or pictures of the aftermath
Starting point is 01:47:51 like it's horrible enough but you got to see him shoot all those people and then go back and reload and come back and shoot some more it was it was awful that was terrible it flashed a memory of a good one where like I think it was
Starting point is 01:48:06 a school shooting and the cop shows up with the body cam on goes to the trunk gets his gun he's like you guys on me and just leads and he is all about getting to the shooter as fast as possible. He's like collecting some intel from teachers
Starting point is 01:48:21 here and there like second floor, second floor, check. And he's not hiding, he's not hoping someone else gets there first. He's trying to solve the problem than he does. He's made speed the most important factor. He wasn't seeking cover and creeping around corners like a SWAT team.
Starting point is 01:48:38 He was sprinting toward the danger. That was that trans shooter with the sub-2-000. They had a sub-2000 submachine gun, a Keltek. The guy ran into that. That guy ran into that building Like he wanted the kill Like not like
Starting point is 01:48:52 He was looking for the smoke man He was like I want this And because he came around the corner He saw the shooter laying there It was just like Like just immediately neutralized And that's what you need That was a six year old dead
Starting point is 01:49:04 Like that he stepped over on the way And like a little girl in a pink It was like a Christian elementary school Like they were little kids I can't fathom Like that Like I can
Starting point is 01:49:16 I can like put myself in the position of someone who's like pushed to the edge or someone who like wants to end their own life and wants to suicide by cop I can I can empathize with a lot of awful stuff but why would you want to hurt children right the one who killed the united health care CEO like i could see how the guy sure yeah but like kids think of so i can't think of anyone more innocent what are we doing yeah that six-year-old had the luigi one i don't like that but uh yeah going into a school and treating a bunch of kids. What do you get when you cross a loner with a society?
Starting point is 01:49:54 Then he kills Robert De Niro. Yeah, remember? That's a good scene. Yeah, that was the, I couldn't believe he popped Niro the first time I saw it. I was like, holy shit, he popped in here. Yeah, that was fucking awesome. That was a really good scene. And De Niro was asking for it.
Starting point is 01:50:08 You kind of warned him to pop De Niro. That was great. It's like, oh, man, like, if I were this talk show host, I wouldn't interview this guy aggressively at all. He's clearly crazy. you're making some good points here you're making some good points you're like to learn a lot from this guy
Starting point is 01:50:21 what's said on to your coat shaped like a gun how would you want to be my co-host going forward like I'd be kissing ass dude how about another joke Murray
Starting point is 01:50:31 that's a good movie I need to I've never seen a joke or two don't I heard it was very very poor I heard it was terrible but I can't stop being curious
Starting point is 01:50:45 there's a there's a clip of the they showed it at the cans film festival and fronds and uh and i think um um what's his name that plays the joker fucking um walking walking phoenix is next to lady gaga and they just watched the movie together for what i think might have been his first viewing of it and like like you know even though he made it and everybody's of course standing and clapping but he's wording something like that was bullshit or like this is bad or like, we're fucked. It was like, like, he was coming to the realization that they had made, not just a bad movie,
Starting point is 01:51:21 but just a complete departure from what was a great movie with potential for a sequel into just, it's awful. It's like... A musical, right? Yeah. Yeah, people said it was not even similar to Joker one. It's in no way similar. It feels like, it feels like Martians watched the Joker
Starting point is 01:51:41 and had no idea how humans interact or what they do, and they use their own culture to make Joker 2. And it just feels wrong. It feels like they made it as like a fuck you to the studio from making them make it. Like maybe sometimes a studio will say to a director, hey, you want to make the sequel? And they're like, no, it's kind of a self-contained story.
Starting point is 01:52:01 And it's like, okay, well, I'm going to take these characters that are beloved to you that you wrote when you were 17. And I'm going to let Phil over here direct a new movie. And there's going to be a giant spider in it. And your main character is now going to get raped in the first scene. And he's, oh, well, I guess I'll make a shitty sequel for you, boss. Sorry, I didn't know you were going to ruin my art like this. Yeah, so why don't you want the Joker to get raped?
Starting point is 01:52:25 That doesn't seem to have anything to do with what happened. Actually, I'm going to keep the rape in. He does get, he gets raped immediately in the movie. But why? Like, why? I didn't make the movie, Taylor. My, my pitch would have been, like, Batman, like, in 20s, Batman, we'd have seen some Batman shit. like he's like a child and we'd had the joker like solidifying his his role as an organized crime
Starting point is 01:52:53 figure rather than just a psychotic man who has a weird following like that i would have made that movie i liked uh something that also i liked about the original joker is that i heard so many people saying at the time that it was so reminiscent of taxi driver that did deniero movie i was like i've never seen that i'm going to watch taxi driver i bet that's good that's a sick movie. I loved taxi driver when I saw that. That was awesome. He's like, you know, we've lived too long weak. My body must be hard.
Starting point is 01:53:22 It must be trained. Like he's losing his mind. He's like turning his like fist over the prop, over the gas burner, saying all that shit, no more poison in my body. No more cigarettes. Every day, it's 150 pushups and a hundred pull-ups. And he's like
Starting point is 01:53:38 Wap! Doing those clap push-ups. And he's shirtless. And De Niro is like super like Bruce Lee ripped, like almost emaciated, but very muscular. He's like Fight Club Brad Pitt, like super lean. Yeah, I guess he's skinny. Like too lean. It's wild.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Yeah. Oh, I love that movie. Travis Bickle is one of the best anti-heroes ever put the fucking paper. That's a cool movie. It's Scorsese directed that one. There's a scene early on where he's driving the taxi and Scorsese's the passenger and he has him pull up to a place and stop. And he's like, keep the meter running.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Keep the meter running. Did I tell you take it off? Put the meter on. Yeah, good, good. Nice job. Nice job. We're just going to sit here for a minute. We're going to watch. We're going to watch.
Starting point is 01:54:19 And then he's like, points in an apartment. You know who lives there? Well, of course, you don't know who lives there. But you want to know who lives there? A ninja lives there. A ninja lives there. A big one. He's fucking my wife.
Starting point is 01:54:33 She's up there with him right now. Yeah, a ninja. You ever see what a 44 Magnum, do with a woman's face? Huh? Huh? Let's see that? Can you imagine? to a pussy.
Starting point is 01:54:46 What about that? What about a 40, for a 44 magnum, drew a woman's pussy. And De Niro's sitting there, like, looking at him in the mirror, like, the fuck have I gotten myself into?
Starting point is 01:54:56 It's great. It's fucking great. So you don't want to go to the sushi restaurant. I'm going to get a ticket if we sit here too long. I had no, I did not know the actor was Scorsese. Yeah. In that scene.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Interesting. I guess it was so long. I picture Scorsese as like anxious. but that was like 74 or something so he would be young guy full dark hair beard and everything and I'm sure you've seen Goodfellas you know the grandma who like has serves them dinner when they come and get the knife to hack up the guy that Scorsese's mom just with no lines he's just like go be their mama is he the best director of all time no is Stanley Kubrick the best I it depends what you mean by best like like anything else like what's the best
Starting point is 01:55:43 fucking root beer. It's going to depend on it. I wasn't trying to trick you. I'm just leaning on your expertise. No, it's a question that I think about a lot because I'm a nerd about this shit. I think Kubrick was the most meticulous, exacting, and had his own way of doing directing and looking at directing, his own style that led to some, some movies that can be rewatched over and over and dissected and and it adds something else that a lot of directors don't. He would have people do hundreds of takes, like intentionally exhausting and frustrating
Starting point is 01:56:17 them because he wanted to draw exhaustion and frustration out of them. He wouldn't trust the actor to do their job. He would beat it out of them if he needed to. He would shoot guns and shit. I believe he was super. He emotionally abused Shelly Long to the point where she was,
Starting point is 01:56:33 I think she had an emotional breakdown. Like he's his own kind of guy. And there's tons and tons of symbolism in his films that that is present in multiple films. There's obelisks in 2001 of Space Odyssey, full metal
Starting point is 01:56:49 jacket. There's all sorts of weird symbolism and eyes wide shut. Dude, I watched that movie. He's sort of winking at you about the pedophile. Tom Cruise was pretty cool in that movie. I liked when Nicole Kibben pissed and you got to see her little bush.
Starting point is 01:57:05 I did. I liked that. I mean, that was a good scene too. Yeah, I like that. that's what I'm most interested in with Kubrick is that little theory people have of that he exposed a whole lot more in eyes wide shut about the behind the scenes Hollywood sort of maneuvering and like elites maneuvering and then they then he died pre-release they heavily edited a lot of it and then released a version that he wouldn't have approved so that's interesting yeah he was famous for burning his negatives so that his films couldn't be re-edited in the future Okay He burned I mean he killed it on the shining
Starting point is 01:57:46 He killed it on the moon landing really Yeah Like that's probably his best work Yeah he killed it in the shining The shining is my favorite one And 2001 of Space Odyssey probably after that I rewatch those maybe once a year I didn't like 2001 of Space Odyssey
Starting point is 01:57:59 Nearly as much as the Shining Or Eyes Wide Shot Um That's fair It is very slow It is very slow And because we're we're more accustomed to like 21st century CGI graphics,
Starting point is 01:58:14 it's kind of hard to appreciate that he's achieving those visuals with models and forced perspective and big sets that have been built, like multi-million dollars sets that have been built to simulate some of the zero-g stuff and some of the way the thing uses centrifugal force to create artificial gravity and all that stuff. You're like, oh yeah, every movie does that. Yeah, but they do it today with a big blue screen and a bunch of computers. Yeah, they did do it in 1970. 78 or whatever. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, so some of that has lost its luster or its grandeur,
Starting point is 01:58:45 I suppose. You've seen plenty of movies with big spaceships and, and, and stuff like that. So it, it doesn't hit the same way. But I still like the story. Um, I think how 2,000, 9,000, whatever he is is just so cold and terrifying. It's like, it's, you can't reason with him. You, it's, it's, it's scary when he's got, got him locked outside the fucking spaceship. I can't do that, Dave. there was too much he spent too long on the obelisk monkeys it was like
Starting point is 01:59:14 not enough there was like 11 minutes that's the best part there's like 11 minutes in the beginning of a monkeys jumping around an obelisk and it was like
Starting point is 01:59:21 at least try to make it look like a monkey it's like there's a guy with a watch on and they're smoking like it doesn't even look close to a real monkey
Starting point is 01:59:31 I think it looked pretty good and it's not supposed to be a monkey it's supposed to be like a missing link it's supposed to be the earliest thing that would make a game man.
Starting point is 01:59:40 Yeah, well, it was clear they were men. I guess. The books are good, too. The books give you more about what the obelisk is, where it came from, why it's there. Then there is a sequel called 2011, the year we make contact, I think. It's something like that.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Stanley Kubrick means? No, no, he didn't. And it is a lesser film, and it is starred by Roy Schneider, they got the main guy from Jaws. He, um, basically they send him up to find out what happened to the space, first spaceship and, uh, he,
Starting point is 02:00:16 and the Soviets, it's a joint mission. So you have Roy Schneider and a bunch of Soviets and they're going out to see what's going on with how, how, and, uh, there's also something happening, happening to the planet Jupiter. Um, and, uh, you get a lot of like, you know, like lore and backstory. You kind of get to the bottom of what it all means. Uh, it's a much less artistic film and more. of just a 80 sci-fi movie
Starting point is 02:00:39 that incorporates the Soviets in a refreshingly friendly way like they all work together in the end to like get shit done. It's okay but you know it's not a Kubrick movie. Would you put so to return back
Starting point is 02:00:54 you would say you don't know or you would put Kubrick at the tippy top? He's my favorite director for all those things I said still Steven Spielberg is so prolific but I as I watch He has some losers in there though. Like he has incorporation of children and like the family dynamic that he seems like
Starting point is 02:01:15 it's almost like he has a formula in his head like this quadriatic equation for making movies. He's like, yeah, the child goes there, the wonderment over here. The CGI right there, big monsters if possible. And happy ending right over here. And you see that equals $250 to $1 billion a year. Yeah, yeah, no problem. Like it just feels like every one of his movies has those. things incorporated into them
Starting point is 02:01:39 and I don't like kids in my movies like I just don't like you have to be such a good child actor for me to appreciate you as one of the cast and not an object to be lost and protected like like like you can replace the kid with a bag of gold in so many
Starting point is 02:01:55 stories because he's like yeah don't lose the gold where's God there's the gold they took the gold like you don't need that's true I never thought about that you really couldn't replace them with a bag of gold So, but then occasionally you get someone like Haley Jalazman who's in, I think it's Spilberg, the movie AI, where he's this future. And this is like, this is made in, I've seen that. Oh, it's so sad. I cried my goddamn eyes out at that. I hated that movie. I thought it was going to be fun. It was sad. It's about a little like boy robot. I watched that on VHS at my grandparents' house and I thought it was going to be a fun story about a kid who has a robot friend. That's by Centennial Man. That's the, the, the, the, um, oh, ho. Oh, what's that actor's name?
Starting point is 02:02:37 He killed himself. Oh, that's so funny now. What's the name? Who killed herself? Bicentennial, oh, oh, oh, things are going to come up. That guy. What's his fucking name? Oh, Robin Williams.
Starting point is 02:02:54 Rod Williams. You want to kill myself. And then the hosts on PKK is going to say I shouldn't have done it. Oh, oh. He gave him a lot of shit for that before he found out he had that degenerative brain disease that was like crippling him. oh can't think can't talk brains falling apart gonna kill myself but he was in a robot movie called bicentennial man it's also heartfelt it came out i think roughly the same year as ai yeah he was the
Starting point is 02:03:17 bicentennial man it was i remember the the cover from walking through block it's a profile of him and he's roboticized yeah it was half of him half robot damn memory lane that's like i remember specific there is no cover for a movie i remember i remember more than eight-legged freaks because I would walk through. Big leaping It's got fangs
Starting point is 02:03:44 it's got fangs out we're in the desert there's a I think there's cat-eye and they might make the minor characters like too small to have actually been in the scene but they're juxtaposed just so you have the cast photos
Starting point is 02:03:56 Zach find the cover of eight-legged freaks and throw it up for us I didn't know his name was Arquette but like the guy on the front is like like yelling like Because the spider's behind him and he doesn't want to be eaten. Yeah, that's, um, that was during a whole rash of spider movies that happened in the early
Starting point is 02:04:13 2,000. Arachnophobia. Yeah, that was another one. Well, no, that's the 80s. That's, um, that's a, that's, uh, arachnophobia is actually fucking good. Yeah. Because I remember, I, I must have walked past that hundreds, because I've never seen it. But I've, I've, I've, I remember walking past this cover when I was like a high schooler.
Starting point is 02:04:33 And me and my buddies would drive to the, the blockbuster to get movies. popcorn movie that you won't get mad at like some movies like are so dumb that you kind of get mad and frustrated you're like I'm watching somebody's fucking high school project here this is a well made silly movie if that makes sense that has some scares in it because I don't like spiders
Starting point is 02:04:50 and there are a lot of big spiders is it like um oh fuck what was that other silly horror you had me tremors is that that's where it's the big worms under there that was almost I think I only watched one through three and then it Oh, you only need to watch.
Starting point is 02:05:05 But it was a fun silly. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess he did. They were fine movies. Like, they entertained me. They were a little silly. The first one is a classic that is beloved worldwide and has super high ratings and stuff. It's real good.
Starting point is 02:05:21 They're going to, they're making a new one. I think they're going to do either a limited series or a movie and Kevin Bacon's coming back. So they'll just forget about the, they've made Tremors movies directed DVD for years. And I don't know. My white trash relatives would be like, do you hear?
Starting point is 02:05:38 Trimmers eight come out. This time they're in the snow caps of the Himalayas. And I'm like, dude, you know, those are like directed DVD movies. Going to be ice worms this time. Yeah, they got ridiculous. The first two are fine. The first one is great.
Starting point is 02:05:53 And then I've seen the second one multiple times. I like guns. So, like, the one gun nut who's wearing the Atlanta Hawks hat, like he's our guy. Like, Bert is his name, I'm pretty sure. And me and my cousin love Bert. Like his wall of guns and everything. Like, we fucking, we're like, that's how I'd be if it would, if worms come after us.
Starting point is 02:06:15 That's what happened right there. We'd be Bert. Was it the first or second movie where like one of the last scenes, they're in like a basement seeking shelter and then a giant worm bursts through? Yeah. And that's Reba McIntyre as playing his wife in the first movie. So it's, they're, they're actually. polishing brass to be reloaded into new bullets in a tumbler that's meant to do that.
Starting point is 02:06:40 And so they don't hear the rumbling of the gravoid that's about to burst through the gun wall. But it's so funny, it burst through and it's like, and you like, the camera pans back to Reba McIntyre and Burt. And the entire wall behind them is encrusted with loaded guns. Is this the movie about with Kevin Bacon about the things underground that Kyle curiously likes a lot? The tremors. Rembers? Are we talking about tremors? Thank God the worm
Starting point is 02:07:08 burst through the not gun wall. They would have been in trouble. They'd have been in the other way. It comes in the other way. They're fucking throwing pebbles. I'm calling it a bad movie. But Kyle talks about it like it's Terminator 2, Rocky 2.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Like it's right up there with the greats. It was kind of a bad movie. But bad movies can be good sometimes. That's what the rock tomatoes is. Guess. 84. 89. Wow.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Right on. Hello, Taylor. Wow. This is a good movie with a solid cast. Like, there are a lot of actors in there that are known, noted actors. They are good performances. And there's a silly giant worms that comes out of the ground. I think to you, sure.
Starting point is 02:07:55 Passengers is a way better movie. Which one is? Do I have the name right? With Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence. Is that what it's called? passenger maybe yeah i i haven't i haven't seen this i don't like her you don't like jennifer lawrence no i don't know her from anything other than um hunger games have you seen that movie she did where she's uh she's skinny dipping and these kids take her clothes
Starting point is 02:08:20 she's skinny dipping in the ocean and those movies she's she's it's a main scene it's the only scene of the movie i've seen so she's skinny dipping in the ocean and these kids steal her clothes and she comes out of the ocean not ashamed at all what the fuck do you think you're doing and she wades into them throwing like haymakers and she beats the dog shit out of like three nerds
Starting point is 02:08:45 like beats them bloody and they're fighting back hitting her too and her pussy's out the whole time really? I kind of want to see to see dude I heard her tell this story on Graham Norton show do you know who he is the British dude yes yeah the fat British guy funny voice
Starting point is 02:09:01 So this is early in her career before she made it at all. She got this modeling job. And basically they were playing football in like lingerie. And she's there with all the other models. And they're like catching the football pretty. They're tackling each other pretty. And she is just driving girls into the ground. They cut her loose.
Starting point is 02:09:21 They didn't use her for the shoe. She was playing football like the score mattered. Playing the way. And nobody else was. Yeah. I haven't heard any story. about it, but I like that. That's a winner's spirit. Exactly. Watch this link.
Starting point is 02:09:35 On YouTube? It can't be, YouTube makes me less interested. Oh, it makes you less interested? Whoa! Yeah, once you click on it, you'll take your mind. It's 4K slow motion. Jesus, Kyle, well done. Dude, YouTube is such a great platform. She kicks off the fight with throwing sand. She starts with pocket sand. Sometimes when I'm naked on a beach, I got to shut them down with pocket sand.
Starting point is 02:10:09 So if you want to see what we're talking about, the YouTube channel is called OV Photography and More, and the video is called No Hard Feelings, Beach Scene Fight, 4K, 8X, slow motion. Oh, my God. The first she throws the pocket sand, then she kicks this girl in her nuts, I guess you'd say. The giant punt. Cunt punt. That is funny how her throw of sand went entirely in the first guy's mouth,
Starting point is 02:10:36 but he continued to act as though it went in her eyes, his eyes. Oh, man. This is, I can't even imagine the series of events in this movie that led to this. She's skinny dipping and they stole her clothes. That's it? Anytime slow motion was almost too much. I'm watching it at double speed now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:56 It's too slow. It's nice to have the option. Okay, you step it up to eight times speed and you'll be good to go. No problem. If you put tits in too much of slow motion, it becomes like a, like a sail in the wind. It looks like somebody's like hitting her tits with an air hose. Like she said, mechanics. Yeah, you're getting cleaned out at the fucking car wash.
Starting point is 02:11:18 No, at least you know her, you definitely know her titties are real. They're just, they're just flopping around everywhere out there. Yeah, great video, great video. Love when you find a gym like that on YouTube. man I didn't know this is loud on YouTube hey you gotta dig deep I'll tell you what they did
Starting point is 02:11:35 they replaced all those try on girls that I was really into for a while um yeah AI AI got them like people flooded the market with these like fake AI women and it's all just like like catch it like like
Starting point is 02:11:49 bullshit thumbnails that that lead nowhere you can't find any good try on girls anymore on YouTube it's the women that gave instructions on how to clean windows were pretty good too. Yeah, yeah. They clean a tape,
Starting point is 02:12:04 and they don't speak fucking good English at all. They're like, today I tell you how to clean table. First, you pop your pussy for camera. They would wear... I don't even know what the outfit's called, but like super duper see-through might as well not be there,
Starting point is 02:12:21 like gown of some sort. Yeah. And then by cleaning the window, the light is shining through and you'd see the silhouette of everything and I'm like oh I see what you're doing here I like the body painting girls all right
Starting point is 02:12:35 get some close up labia painting those are talented artists I like the girls who are showing off a clear raincoat today we're doing solid blue I like the girls we are jazzling from the back of my of the shipping container
Starting point is 02:12:52 this Ukrainian warlord has me in there's definitely jazzling videos they'll do like they'll see if there's a vaguely wet versus dry try on like if you in case you're wondering what this white tank top would look like
Starting point is 02:13:09 if you ever somehow got soaking wet I'm gonna hop in the shower and just run this this water over self-siductively I don't know if it still does like again the AI like has eaten the algorithm to the point where I can't find anything it's
Starting point is 02:13:25 disappointing. It's one of the worst things that AI has done so far. And then, what's the, oh, the breast pump tutorials. Or sometimes they'll do breastfeeding tutorials and they have like a baby doll. And they'll be like, yeah, this is how I'd like get my nipple ready. I need, first you need to roll it between your fingers. And I'm like, yeah, okay. Every single comment is like, you are beautiful goddess. And then she'll be like, she'll do that, she'll do her whole titty. She like pops the nipple. she like gets it up and she's got the fake baby or whatever and she's like and you do it like this and that and she's like now in case you're curious i'll show you how you would do it with
Starting point is 02:14:03 your left breast baby girl would like to see this photo of me in front of a standing on a train tracks you like these yeah that's like a moths to a flame indian guys to like mammogram videos on fucking youtube it's hilarious I am so well Is that river really that dirty in India? I mean I know I've seen the pictures I've seen that it exists but I could show you pictures
Starting point is 02:14:34 of woodstock being filthy and it's not an accurate depiction of what it's like day to day. Oh, that Indian river is horrible. Like it's gross. Have you seen these like I saw a video of these Canadian like Mountie
Starting point is 02:14:48 or maybe it wasn't even the mountain maybe it was just a Canadian guy he was like walking next to a Canadian and Canada's brought in a ton of Indians in the last few years. and he was like, oh, this isn't what I like seeing people do in, you know, Canada. And it was like Indian people in a like local stream, like dumping trash into the stream in Canada. And it's like, I don't know how you do things over there in India, but this isn't how we do it here in Canada.
Starting point is 02:15:13 You know, you put that in the refuse bin, like whatever they fucking say shit. So like, yeah, I totally believe Indian rivers are dirty. Like they, what's the name of the river? Ganges. Ganges. They float dead. bodies down it. I know Kyle will know the videos. It's
Starting point is 02:15:29 so filthy on the sides where the water breaks over and over that a foam, a froth of filth and bacteria. That is just bacteria is being created. It's pretty nasty. If I were in charge of India, that would be like day one shit. I'd be like garbage in the fucking trash can.
Starting point is 02:15:47 No more lazy tossing it in the river. That's short-term gains Indians. Can't be doing that. I mean I would start with a toilet initiative Do you have a toilet initiative It's just everything seems to confirm
Starting point is 02:16:05 Oh the 12 most polluted rivers in the world Ganges is number one Yeah And they're like They're like They're not barely number one They're like the fucking Yankees You got like 28 titles
Starting point is 02:16:19 I don't know how much I like this list There's two number ones Maybe it was a tied amount of garbage I don't know. Yeah, they need to get the Southeast Asia is too mean to the ocean. They need to get it together. They hate it. They despise the ocean. You can train them out of it. You can teach them out of it because the Japanese used to despise whales. And look what happens. Now they're really not killing many whales anymore. It's a big problem because the Chinese kind of filled that vacuum and now they kill a lot of whales. Yeah. I think Japanese kill plenty. They kill as many whales as they're legally allowed to every year for research purposes and then they sell their meat. well but that doesn't seem bad they kill what they're allowed to and it's probably like us telling they're allowed to for research purposes
Starting point is 02:17:02 like they don't they're not doing you research though they're killing whales and selling their meat oh they're killing whales under the guise of of a loop well whales are too smart we shouldn't eat whales just like we shouldn't eat chimps I agree I think that the whales seem pretty fucking smart the fact that those killer whales clearly
Starting point is 02:17:20 like don't mess with us on purpose that's proof enough for me I'm not a big fan of pleasure yachts no they're not 32 foot sailboats they're like you guys suck they've got something personal against them and if anything we should be using AI
Starting point is 02:17:38 to maybe decipher their language and figure out what their beef is with boats like maybe it's something we can fix I used to watch these sailing couples all the time all the fucking women got pregnant and they stopped sailing I need new sailing couples
Starting point is 02:17:53 well what else are you going to do on a boat in the middle of the ocean fucking banging on this boat all the time and they're like we're expecting and like you know what they're well well we already cleaned the boat and we already fished and I already shit I guess we're just going to end what's it say on the the fucking GPS for 75 hours
Starting point is 02:18:14 until we're at dock yeah no let's just have sex a few times what else could you do other than fish and fuck I don't envy that lifestyle at all I wouldn't want to be I'd get claustrophobic and panicky if I couldn't see any land that I was on a little boat I would be I would upset me
Starting point is 02:18:31 I wouldn't like that I mean I'd be happy to do it once I just don't want to make it my life The only alternative lifestyle that's appealing to me is like cabin in the mountains with like sustenance farming like you know something like that where you only need to go to town maybe once or twice a year and you got like solar and batteries
Starting point is 02:18:49 and kind of living and living with nature. Yeah. You've got an N-64. I'm bringing my games. Okay. I'm going to have Starlink. Let's get that out there right now. Every once in a while, someone wanders across my cabin. I force them to play with me. I'm always odd job. If they complain, I kill them.
Starting point is 02:19:07 I'm telling you, that's just the way the controllers work. I have to be odd job, and you have to be Jaws. You have to be the largest character. Even the people who aren't susceptible to seasickness, and I am, get seasick out there. It's just a rough gig.
Starting point is 02:19:22 and I it's not for me but it's for some alternative version of me I like everything about it but the sea sickness and of course my life that I've evolved into doesn't fit that sucks you get cease I've never had motion sickness before but who knows if I went out of it air sick like you name it all those things I'm so weird because you love activity and going fast but it could be just like a you being in control versus you being out of control no I still get air sick when I do my acrobatics and shit I just find it's worth it. it. You ever take Dramamine? Yeah. I have taken Dramamine and it made me sleepy and it didn't prevent the sickness. There's a patch as well. I've done it. I think all Dramamine makes people like want to go to bed, right?
Starting point is 02:20:05 I didn't know. Yeah. No, it's like... Have you ever like been on a roller coaster like a few times in a row and then you're like, well actually I could use a break before the next round? No, it doesn't bother me. Oh, okay. That's how I am when I do like the air runs over the lake and stuff.
Starting point is 02:20:21 stuff. Like I've had, I just lay on my back, like, try to recover and then fucking hit it again. That was such a snotty look. In my head, I'm thinking, like, I bet you don't ride roller coasters like me and Woody. I bet you to have a fast pass or something. Like, I'm talking about you get on that bitch and you get on that bitch and you get on that bitch and you get on that bitch. And then you, dude, I've written roller coasters. I remember going with my dad when I was like 12 to six flags to ride the boss, which was this like rickety.
Starting point is 02:20:51 gigantic wooden roller coaster and because it's wooden it's like rickety and they weren't busy that day and so me and my dad got in and we wrote it and then we got back to the start and they were like you guys just want to fire off again and I was like yes like just I was like it was like in dreamland and after like three rides my dad got off and I remember thinking like wow like being grownups don't like fun and I made him like stand there while I rode this thing like 11 times in a row by myself I was probably 12 I've had a similar experience but I not 11 like I at like four I'm looking for a bench I was on there for half an hour and there I remember like there was a there was this dude who spent an entire summer at the st. Louis six flags riding the boss
Starting point is 02:21:35 when it came out because I think when it came out it was like the biggest wooden roller coaster in the us or something this is probably 99 and he rode it the entire summer he like paid some because he wanted to set a record but from from open to close for a whole summer he was sat in a specially seat that he paid for and rode this roller coaster and that sounds that sounds hellish you would know every turn you'd anticipate everything there'd be no more surprised oh yeah the boss is a good roller coaster the yeah the best one and i'm sure like it's it's six flags and so there's probably a giant wooden roller coaster at six flags georgia that they call like the titan or something but it's really about the same as as the boss yeah i've been just like uh explain that george is better than all the
Starting point is 02:22:21 of these. Well, you guys have something called this, it's called some other hero, but we have one called the Batman. I've looked them up. It's the same thing. We have Batman and Superman, and they put you in sort of the position that those two characters would normally like Batman, you're sitting on one of those bicycle seats
Starting point is 02:22:37 and then you've got the top thing that clamps down, and your feet dangle. And it's sort of tilts you forward. It tilts you forward slightly, maybe like 30 degrees or something like that. The Superman, you get into a similar setup that has a bigger restraint and it puts you horizontal. So you're like Superman flying like with your belly
Starting point is 02:22:57 to the ground. And if you sit on the, if you get, if you wait and get in the slightly longer line to sit in the front car, then nothing is in front of you but air. And because the thing makes like backwards loops, if that makes sense, where like if you're going, if you're going down, you can see the track ahead of you. But if you're like flipping backwards, you can't. It feels like you're flying. You feel like Superman. That's pretty neat. Yeah, we don't have a version of this Superman one that has you kind of parallel to the tracks, this looks fun. I would like this. Metal roller coasters are just so much better than wooden roller coasters. They're smoother and they don't have the clickety clack and some of the feel, but they're faster and a lot of them.
Starting point is 02:23:37 There's one called the Goliath here that's, I get a little scared. I'll be honest. Like when I'm clicking up the, when you're clicking up the tracks, you sit in a seat that's kind of like a car, like a traditional roller coaster car but there aren't really anything to your like it's not really a box you're just kind of sitting in a seat and then there's a lap restraint that it ratchets down onto your lap and so it squeezes
Starting point is 02:24:01 the top of your thighs and hips against the seat but that's kind of all that's holding you in and it feels like if you really wanted to when you were up there you could climb out of this thing mid-jurney you know what I mean? This looks like a great roller coaster. It
Starting point is 02:24:16 it is very good that drop is a really long drop I'm screaming the whole way down and I kind of run out of air before the drop is over I need to go to six flags more often like I love roller coasters and I just never end up going
Starting point is 02:24:33 there's a there's a stand-up coaster called the Georgia scorcher that they have one of those at Cedar Point called the Mantis where you're like standing there in the Batman style locks your feet are on this like what is that type of metal that has like the little diamonds on it for grip
Starting point is 02:24:48 that like they make toolboxes out of yeah yeah that's that's what it was Cedar Point is I've never been to a theme park adventure park anything that even scratched the surface of what Cedar Point in Ohio was the Georgia this Georgia scorcher if you're taller will make you pass out at the bottom of one of the loops like I black out every time I get to the bottom of the loop
Starting point is 02:25:11 if you can imagine because it's a stand-up coaster it very quickly becomes a lay down coaster so you're twisting in a way where you're laying down and all the blood is being sent to your feet because you do three loops in a row and at the bottom of every loop all your blood wants to go to your feet and so like by the third loop
Starting point is 02:25:31 I'm blind like I can't see oh my God and my vision starts coming back you know like five seconds later with like those little sparkly stuff and I'm like I'm getting my money's worth today after this I'm getting a fucking turkey leg get a 70 ounce slushy.
Starting point is 02:25:48 I'm not okay. That's where I don't spend money. We used to talk about like breaking the bank at the movie theater. I refuse to pay for that food. I'll get a turkey like a hundred. If I'm at a roller coaster theme park, anything, and they have a turkey like place, I will get a turkey like 100%. I just So Kyle was talking about
Starting point is 02:26:04 that he has some pride in his Georgia six flags. And of course everyone knows Cedar Point is dope. And I was like North Carolina, we have carolins but like nothing really good. So I looked into it to see if I was right. Dude. It's good. There's a roller coaster called Fury 325, 365, something like that.
Starting point is 02:26:22 Carow win. Carrow wins, C-A-R-O-W-N-D-S. And it is the longest roller coaster in America. It is the second tallest. It has the longest drop in America. Like, it's got some good shit going on here. I should check this thing out. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:26:44 Guess what a turkey lake cost at six flags? Oh, it's probably a rate. I bet it's... What is the date on your price? Are you current? I use Google AI right now, and it seems to be pretty specific. I'm going to say... $12.25.
Starting point is 02:26:59 I'm going to say $17. 22. Oh, that's what I'm talking about. I don't, I... Dude, the lemonade, let me see what the lemonade is. My guess is I could... How much is a lemonade? A lemonade?
Starting point is 02:27:11 $4.50. I'm going to guess it's $8.50. Okay. Let me see Yeah, it's got to be seven At least seven bucks Trump's America I like
Starting point is 02:27:25 Five to eight dollars for a single cup Depending on the size That's the worst part You do But Six Flags is great At deals You can get a One Day drink bottle
Starting point is 02:27:36 And this is a And anywhere you go You've got this Six Flags bottle And they'll fill it up With lemonade That's only like $20
Starting point is 02:27:46 I think. It's gigantic and you can't drink the amount of liquid they give you per time because you're outside at six flags in the summer and it gets hot. That's why I get for every time I'm at six flags, I get my turkey leg and then I'll like buy a bottle of Diet Coke like a 20 ounce normal bottle of Diet Coke is probably six bucks. And then you have a couple drinks. You've still got half your Diet Coke. You don't think to drink it as you're carrying it to the next ride. By the time you get there, it's fucking hot. You get lemonade. And then you have to guzzle your next in that before the next soda, you have to guzzle it down. It's a problem like. So we did a $22 chicken wing and an $8 drink.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Let's say you get a medium to save a buck or two and it adds to 30 after tax. That's a lot, right? When you make this a family of four, all of a sudden, like, holy smokes, $120 to get a lot. Sandwiches in the car, kids. Let's go out to the parking lot. Yeah. My dad used to take us, like in the middle of the day at Six Flags, he would get us our hand stamped when we were kids. And then we would leave, go to a McDonald's.
Starting point is 02:28:46 nearby, get Mickey D's, and then he'd bring us back for the rest of the day. And I didn't even see that as like a cheap thing because I was a kid. I didn't understand money. I was just like, this rocks. I can make these in the middle of the day. I get to get fucking honey and buffalo dipping sauce and on nugs right now. I get there when they go to the supermarket by candy and then we'd smuggling into the movie theater. I mean, that's evergreen. And that's culturally and socially appropriate. What you're doing. What Kyle does, which is like bringing in an entire smelly burrito, is not because what you're doing, what you're doing in my burrito, the chicken or the rice. Get out of here. Like, I'm bringing my Chipotle to the movie theater. No, you misunderstand what I mean by Smelly. I would take it as passive aggressive. You're two rows behind me. I can smell that you were forward thinking enough to bring a burrito. And yet I merely have popcorn. I might assault you. I've done a lot of cool things
Starting point is 02:29:44 over my half but the time we snuck out of work and brought five guys and beer into the movie theater was really that was so good I agree I don't pay for those like crazy if I want popcorn then I'll do popcorn
Starting point is 02:30:02 but like I have to pee and I don't like having to pee so I almost never if I do get a drink I get a small and I just like sip it like like tiny sips. I'm so afraid of having to pee in front of the movies and in the movie and have to go to the bathroom and miss something because that bothers me. No, I'm the opposite. I get their jumbo big boy soda with as much Sprite Zero or Diet Coke or whatever soda they have that I like
Starting point is 02:30:30 in it and then I get a giant popcorn. I'm not going to the movies if I can't have popcorn. I want a big one. You just leave the show to pee? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. If I have to be in the middle. I get the drink, but I pee in place. That's fair. That's fair. I'm a bit of a connoisseur. I'm writing a review, ma'am. Like, it's a drip.
Starting point is 02:30:50 Yeah. I was so tantalized the first time I went to one of those theaters where it's like you can be like, you can hit a button and you're in these giant soft seats. And then a waiter or waitress will come up and be like, oh, you want a beer and chicken wings? It's like, yeah, bring me a beer and chicken wings. This is sick. And then it turns out it takes so fucking long to get that shit. that like there's no it's quicker to just get up and go get your free refill with your soda and your popcorn than it is to sit there and order like another beer or another chicken wing or a burger or real food so i was quickly disillusioned with that approach to theater i i like the seats at a theater now they all have like electronic reclining leather seats at the movie theater but why are they so cuddleproof like you can barely put your arm around your wife in these things like it yeah
Starting point is 02:31:38 some of you can't even raise the middle barrier some of them you can't even raise that and so you're just both sitting there isolated in your own like I like it I got a bangor I like it handy at most I'll be honest I like having two hands free I'm sipping I'm snacking I actually make her the seat to my right is for snacks and then she gets the one on the on the right of that that way there's no chance of us I mean maybe we go for the popcorn at the same time
Starting point is 02:32:04 we e cooties but but like she's not going to be grabbing all I need someone to tell me who's who in the movie. I'm over here taking notes, lady. I don't want, I'm not canoodling. Is that the mom? No, that's the daughter. Well, I don't, I wouldn't. Odysseus. This is that title of the movie. It's clearly this guy. Yeah, I need my popcorn if I'm going to a movie. It's delicious. So oily, so taste. Oh, that's the whole, that's the snack I go into a movie wanting. Like I want a giant thing of popcorn.
Starting point is 02:32:40 Because I'm in a munch the whole time. I usually don't do a snack at all. I'll bring like a small soda. I mean, you know, I'm there to watch a movie, not like eat. Like I said, I've had dates where we didn't time it well. And it's like, shit, the movie's starting now. And then get that Chipotle burrito. And it's like dinner and a movie.
Starting point is 02:33:00 But for realsies. I like, I like that a lot. I really like having like outside food. I like knowing that. nobody else has outside food too i wouldn't do that at like one of those like brewhouses or whatever that they they'll bring you out of fucking beer or whatever like no no you got popcorn i got chapolte i like i've never been to a movie theater that had like i don't think i've been in a room they had real meals like served hamburgers and stuff are they awful is it off of food it's fine it was it was a fine burger but if i went to a burger house and they brought me that
Starting point is 02:33:32 same burger i would have been like this isn't that great but it's only good cafeteria burghers Oh, certainly not that. It's a real burger, but it's only good in the context of like, wow, I can get a real, quote unquote, meal sitting here. And then you eat like half your burger and you're like, oh, I get it. This is popcorn wasn't like serendipitously chosen as the snack. That's just kind of a good munch food while you're watching a movie. The same way, like door dashing any food that isn't pizza or Chinese, it doesn't show up right. Try door dashing a burger or something with. bread that has to sit and then steam in its own heat. It's not right. You're right. I've done it when I travel. Like I haven't delivered to a hotel room. It's not right. Yeah. Like people figured this out decades ago what holds in the car pizza Chinese. Have you seen like Instacart profiles you and charges you more? I saw that. That's insane. How so? They look at where you live and the items that you buy and try to figure out the maximum that you're willing to pay algorithmically and raise the prices on you. Yep. It just feels like I'm playing the game of life with cheaters. Like you're just
Starting point is 02:34:42 raising the price based on my address. Fuck you. I use DoorDash too. So I look at my groceries. I'll make my card in DoorDash and then I'll make my card in Instacart and I'll compare to try to try to do that. The one item that they would get me on is sodas and I won't pay $12 for a 12 pack of canned sodas. Like I just won't do it, but that's what they're usually at. they're usually at $11 or $12 but I absolutely won't pay it but when they make it buy two for $11 and get three free
Starting point is 02:35:11 I stock up to such an extent that it looks like I'm a can hoarder or something like that like I'll buy 10 or 20 12 packs I know I just complained about like the system being rigged against us and how unfair that is but I do fuck them the other way
Starting point is 02:35:28 we have a whole house water filter that involves buying like eight bags of that are 40 pounds each of salt you know like we stock up and the bags are cheap they're like six dollars so we're like all right give us 400 pounds of salt
Starting point is 02:35:44 our delivery the poor lady's like Edith is on her way we're watching through the blinds for this one baby come here maybe I'm not that it it, but it still feels like the whole system. I've done it too.
Starting point is 02:36:05 It is fucking. And also the soda thing you're saying, Kyle, like I don't, I, it's rare that I have groceries delivered. I'll just go to the grocery store generally. But a big reason for that is if I try to have like a 12 pack of Sprite zero, and I add that on DoorDash to have brought to my house, it's like $12.
Starting point is 02:36:24 If I go to the same store and just buy it, it's $7. And they probably have some deal or something. And so it's like I'm almost paying double the price. just for the convenience, which at that point is like this is a terrible ROI. Like I should just run out there and grab it. I'll only pay $650 or $7 for my
Starting point is 02:36:42 like when you do the math because sometimes they'll do a 24 pack for $13 and I always snatch those up because it's, I'll get a bunch of those. If you're not savvy and Jackie didn't used to be savvy, they made it seem like they were charging you $5 for the delivery. But then you realize
Starting point is 02:37:00 every freaking item you bought has been increased in price. And you're actually paying like $80, $60, $40 for delivery. And it's, it's, do you have the Instacart credit card? No. So that's quite a lot. You get unique deals. You get some in-store pricing.
Starting point is 02:37:19 Sometimes different grocery stores will say in-store pricing. And that means you're getting the exact price they have in the store. And I think it's either 4% or 5% back on every single grocery purchase, which if you're going to buy $2,000 worth of the groceries for the rest of your life. So it's, it's going to add up. I have the DoorDash credit card too, which has a very similar like deals and bonuses. But if you're smacking you with a 35% price increase, just using the delivery option? You can find out when they're in-store pricing.
Starting point is 02:37:50 Some grocery stores will say in-store pricing and it's like they're not jacked up at all. And like I know what stuff costs. I realize if I'm paying like a dollar more for my steak, like I don't care. You know, like, but if it looks like I'm getting it. advantage of. I just don't buy it. I go to a different store and a different app. I'll sit there for an hour and get the best deal. I really like getting deals. I don't even care about the
Starting point is 02:38:10 amount of money. I just like getting one over. Sometimes I'll make a big purchase and then they'll fuck it all up and they'll refund me all my money back. And I'll be like, do I get to keep these points? Yes, I got to keep the points. And the customer service with Instacar and DoorDash, probably because I
Starting point is 02:38:26 spend a lot of money with them, is perfect. It's just like Amazon. I will go on that app and I'll be like, I'll order like bag salad or bag spinach and it'll be slimy and rotten and I'm like all this is ruined and they're like do you want credit or cash like immediately with no proof required they'll just give me all my money back they'll replace entire orders hundreds of dollars worth of worth of there was one time when like a hundred and fifty dollars worth of groceries got fucked up but they weren't like so fucked up that I couldn't use some of it but they just gave me all my money back like lots of that Amazon's excellent with that I remember I have had that stupid train engine thing sent to you as like a goofy gift like a year ago and for weeks I was texting Kyle and like did the steam engine show up because he had been talking about steam engines or something and how neat he thought they were and he was like no never showed up and so I like went online and was like this product never showed up at the house I had it
Starting point is 02:39:26 ordered to and I want a full refund and they were immediately like we're so sorry here's all your money back. And like two days later, Kyle was like, turns out it did show up. I didn't know what it was. Put it under my sink. It's in a box. I have it. So I think that I thought it was like, I thought it was scrub pads or something or like like something I'd ordered that belonged under the sink and put it under there and never opened it. And then someone opened it was like, there's a little steam engine here. Is this yours? Yeah, yeah, that's my. Yeah. That's my steam engine. And also Taylor already got to is $48 back and so yeah no that's solid i had a um i ordered the new um samsung smart watch and it was like $400 and it just showed up with an empty box like sealed in the package the someone at the like just distributor plant plant had before it got into the brown box had taken the product out and then put the packaging back together and i'm just incensed i'm like i'm like and they're like, oh, no problem. Would you like a new watch
Starting point is 02:40:32 immediately reordered with overnight shipping or would you like your $400 back? And I'm like, I'd like a new watch. And sure enough, there was a new watch there the next day. And part of me, the evil part was like, you could have had two watches. They don't know whether you got the watch or not.
Starting point is 02:40:47 Maybe we run it back. Like, I bought like a DSLR like a couple years ago and I was like, be a shame if this got lost. I'm always tempted because it's Bezos. stealing from him doesn't feel like stealing from like a person you know it's almost like if you requisitioned some like fuel cells from the empire and Star Wars you wouldn't be woe as me about the emperor and how he short of you fuel sales you'd just be happy that you'd made a little scratch yeah just a just a little
Starting point is 02:41:18 it's just it's I think you deserve it's maybe just don't steal maybe a maybe a taste yeah I mean I'm not going to defraud Amazon they're a wonderful company I I think I admire Jeff Bezos. I like the fact that he's been low-ass-wise. We tried to do a return. And I'm like, man, yeah. Like they said, I think we ordered creamer or something and we got the wrong
Starting point is 02:41:41 kind. And they're like, well, have you tried just fucking off? Oh, really? Yeah. And then twice. Yeah. And I'm like, I guess you guys aren't what you used to be. Huh.
Starting point is 02:41:52 I used to go out of my way to buy from Amazon. Like, it's a good company. I'd find something somewhere else and be like, does Amazon sell it because I like their service, but not anymore. It's almost gotten to the other side of that now where like when I was Christmas shopping, looking for stuff for like brothers, grandparents, whatever, like I, my default is just to go to Amazon because they have everything. But now it's to the point that like I'll find something on Amazon that I want to buy them
Starting point is 02:42:15 and be like, that almost feels expensive. And so then I'm like checking all the old websites, like the direct sales for the same company. And that's something I never did for years. And now I find myself like ordering from like ordering, like ordering, direct because you can save a little bit of money compared to Amazon. But either way, Amazon's like the most useful company in the country. Is there a more useful one day-to-day?
Starting point is 02:42:39 No, there can't be unless, you know, maybe the power. The power of the water. Right. I'm like excellent. Remove utilities and all that shit from it. Utilities away. I need Amazon. Like that's the thing I would give up last. Like I've talked about for which you, what order would you give up your utilities?
Starting point is 02:42:54 Let's make utilities heat. Let's put heat and air in the same pile. and then water and electricity and internet. You've got to go get rid of internet first and then... No, you can't. You can't be shivering in this podcast. I get rid of internet and then... Is it quit?
Starting point is 02:43:13 I think I take heat before internet. I'm assuming this is like eight before internet. And then it also depends on how long. I can easily go without water for like eight hours. It's not even... Forever. Really? Forever?
Starting point is 02:43:27 You never get them again. Then electricity and water have to be like tied for first. You need those. You don't need electricity. You need electricity to run your water. No. In most scenarios, you need it. Sometimes, yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:41 Not my last time. But anyway. But in this scenario, you have internet without electricity? Hypothetical, I guess. Yeah. Internet's my number one. Under no circumstances, can I give up the end? internet because that's what we do fucking here. And that's how I acquire all the other things that
Starting point is 02:44:02 I get. I need that window into the world. After that, it's water. I need water because without water I'm filthy all the fucking time and I won't live like that. If you've ever gone two or three days without showering well and like a camping scenario or something, you don't just feel dirty on the outside. You feel dirty on the inside. You feel like a lesser, grimier version of you. You start to understand how that Al-Qaeda thing cropped up. It's dusty. They don't have hot water. If those guys had some steam showers, they'd be a fucking soccer team or something. They had very few Ws. That's why they were so stoked on the monkey bars. Eating in air is like, I don't need them. I want them badly, but I guess in the hot months, I'll just live in Georgia.
Starting point is 02:44:44 And the hot months, you just like, like, growing up, my grandma didn't have that shit. They would have box fans at one end of the house blowing out the other. And they tunnel ventilate the fucking house. Yeah, with 95 degree air. at least it's moving yeah that sucks you couldn't get rid of I mean I guess the loophole of like I would keep internet so I could have water
Starting point is 02:45:07 delivered to my house this and that like that would be good but I mean you're going to have to return to Stone Age maybe this would be good for you like Stone Age style sleeping schedules with no electricity I mean you would have internet but no way to utilize it I would live in fear in the darkness
Starting point is 02:45:25 superstition would return rapidly like dude every night if you ever been camping and heard a noise that you couldn't identify and you know it's not ghouls and goblins you know that because we were sensible people but it's like but really though what the fuck was it I think they have cougars where you grow up too do you remember like hearing at my grandparents' house
Starting point is 02:45:51 like we would hear cougars in the night and it sounds like we don't have them crying baby like a weird sound in the woods they make a really we have bobcats but they are so rare that those are similar they're just it's a smaller cougar the only bobcat i saw was on the camping trip with woody and i had been in those woods my entire life like like morning four hours a day throughout the entire hunting season from the time i was 10 to the time i was 16 or 17 or something like that and i had never seen a bobcat and we saw one just like walking across the dirt road right in front of us. Camping by yourself is spooky.
Starting point is 02:46:29 I don't know if you guys have ever camped in the woods just completely solo, but it's like, why did a stick just break? What? I don't know what broke a stick out there, but it's now my problem. And that's why I got my first gun. Yeah, that makes so much sense. Like hunting, you invite that sort of thing. You're in that like mode where you're like, I wish I wish a killer would.
Starting point is 02:46:52 You know? Oh, bandits? Oh, whoopsie daisy. You're in an elevated position with a high-powered weapon and you know how to use it and you're covered at camouflage. This is, this is the best time for trouble to come a looking for you that you will ever have in your life. You are ready to go. So, and you're also listening for like deer, although deer can move through the woods by, it's very quiet. You don't hear them until they're almost right on top of you. They're so sneaky. I got a new flashlight. we have crab apple trees in my yard and they're attracting deer which by the way apparently raleigh is having an outbreak of violent deer fighting people and coyotes so we let these puppies out
Starting point is 02:47:38 in the backyard and they're the worst athletes ever they're hilariously clumsy one fell in the pool i talked about that so i'm one of the high-powered flashlight to see what's out there because sometimes you don't know, you don't know if they're safe and etc. And I get it. The first night, I'm like, Jackie, come check this out. I got a new flashlight. Look how it shines into the woods. And there are two coyotes just like stalking
Starting point is 02:48:01 and they run off because of the flashlight. I'm like, this was a goodbye. Do you guys want to see the dogs? It's been a minute. Bring them in. I do. All right. It's probably gained 40 pounds each. Probably. Hold on. Because we'll be able to tell
Starting point is 02:48:18 exactly how much bigger they've gotten if he's even able to hold both of them. Because he was barely able to hold both of them last time. And these dogs grow like weeds. Enormous. We used to try to... I just love those little pups, though. I don't want big
Starting point is 02:48:34 dogs. Me and my dad would build big traps to try to catch coyotes alive. Like we were welding together like cage metal. It's sort of like criss-crossed like heavy gauge bars of metal and making like a rectangle with a sliding door but they were always to their credit so wily that they couldn't be
Starting point is 02:48:55 caught like they would smell it there would be a dead chicken hanging um and if you pull on it that pulls a string and you know a pulley and then that pulls a little pin out of the gate and the gates weighted and it slides down behind you and there's barbs on the bottom of the gate so it's gonna stick and it's like never caught one they would they were so they were so smart Or just skittish about, like, fucking with the trap. Maybe it smelled like people. I don't know. We could never catch one.
Starting point is 02:49:21 Oh, my God. I told you. That dog is so big. It's amazing. Like, how fast. Twice as big. Like, what if you could unlock that, like, biology to make a person grow? Like, an adult.
Starting point is 02:49:42 Like, to make an adult, like, grow and, like, become a stupid. soldier. I see the other one poking his little head. This is Jonah Bark. This is the girl. How did she turn kibble into all that bone and mass? I bet it's a lot of kibble. I bet they're eating a lot.
Starting point is 02:49:59 Look at their paws. Dude, that dog's paws are enormous. They're like saucers. Yeah, she's I guess that's the boy. He's going to grow into an even bigger boy. Oh, look at that. He's so lanky.
Starting point is 02:50:15 I bet he smells good He does Puppies do smell nice Although it's weird even calling an animal that size of puppy That's how sweet his face is He's a good boy He looks like a good one He's not even that big yet
Starting point is 02:50:36 He's going to grow into him What a sweetheart He's a good boy Yes Is the training coming along decently well or are they frustrating? It's a little frustrating.
Starting point is 02:50:52 Your hair's flustered now just from playing with your dog. We're like, check out my dog. They're learned so we had the electric fence repaired. My other dogs didn't even need it to work anymore. They just sort of behaved. So our electric fence hasn't worked for like
Starting point is 02:51:14 years. So we got that repaired and the guy that repairs it is also a dog trainer. So he did their first lesson on that. And they seemed to pick up on that really well. Maybe he's just that much better at training dogs. But telling them to come is merely a suggestion. They don't come. They make a fool out of me. I can't catch them. I mean, I'm already faster than like 15% of the There's a lot of kids out there, Woody. Only the youngest of them. So, yeah, I try to chase the dogs. They are quicker than me at this point.
Starting point is 02:51:59 And that's only, that gap is only going to spread. Great Danes run like 37 miles an hour or something like that. Wow. So even these freaking three or four month old dogs toasting me. Yeah. So getting them to come, that's not working that well. sit I mean temporarily maybe maybe they sit but they don't stay not at all we try for a few minutes every day we bring high value snacks um it might be partly because there's two of them I think if
Starting point is 02:52:28 there was one they might be a little more subservient and part of the family but instead they have their own pack over there they just tell us to bug off but we'll get it eventually it's still good you got to like that's good for them to have that little pack. Like you got to train them out of whatever, you know, malfeasies. But that's still good. They're adorable. Dude, they're touching each other like 80% of the time. They are so on top of each other. It is a problem, though. They wear collars now. But they used to parent trapp us constantly. Like, which one went to the bathroom? Oh, I don't know. Because one pooped. And then they did
Starting point is 02:53:03 the three card Monty thing. I don't know which is which. I have no idea who needs to go. Who doesn't? All right. Well, both of you need to go out to poop again. Because at least one of you does like that's great i'm so glad you and jackie and the family got those two new dogs like they and that they seem to bring you so much joy they seem so very sweet they're they're i mean in turn the one thing that they do really well is snuggle which was like huge for us what we like in the dog is like a lazy snuggly dog and they knock that out of the park otherwise great danes good danes at best but they're very sweet dogs
Starting point is 02:53:48 and then Kyle you'll be adding another one to the pack soon in the next couple years probably I don't know I mean I have spare if you need one yeah the older girl dogs like blood test came back I guess her levels were even worse than before so now we're doing some sort of in-depth test that may involve spinal fluid to find out if she has cushings
Starting point is 02:54:12 and then an ultrasound of her liver. I think that's Monday. Oh, yeah. I remember you saying that. Seven. I'm going to say six, six, seven. How bad is like a, how bad is the problem? I don't know what Cushing's is.
Starting point is 02:54:30 I don't know. I think Cushings might be something that she could live with, but liver cancer is a death sentence. Cushings is like a muscle wasting disorder. Taylor knows every weird disease out there. You mentioned some weird condition and he's on top of it.
Starting point is 02:54:48 I am never I'm not surprised anymore. It just happens every time. I'm almost positive. I'm pretty sure Cushing's is a muscle wasting disorder that gives you a lot of fat and like your your arms get super, super skinny. Your legs get super skinny. You retain fluid so you look
Starting point is 02:55:05 fatter than you are, but your muscles like shrink and waste. She does look really fat. And does she like struggle to move like like weight wasting muscle like not very strong no weight gain and muscle weakness yeah she she is very chunky um i wouldn't describe her as weak you know she jumps up on the bed and she jumps up in there to like get get dog treats and stuff and sprints around and like but she is in general and always has been like when girl dogs get fixed they usually become chubby lazier versions of themselves toby is like super energetic but just like
Starting point is 02:55:40 Woody's dogs. My dog's all cuddle the fuck out of me. Like I sit on the couch and they're on me. And when we go to bed, like, they don't just sleep in the bed. They sleep in the bed on us almost. They collapse onto your shins. Like, their head needs to be like on your hip. Like, they need to be making
Starting point is 02:55:56 physical contact with me throughout the night. And it's sometimes it's too much. Sometimes it's too much. Athleticism? I still spot them when they walk down the stairs because they fall half the time. I put a hand on their chest and just catch them in case they're like 50 pounds yeah 50 pounds
Starting point is 02:56:17 dogs are capable of walking downstairs but not mine and then my daughter has a dog it's still a puppy I guess like six months old it jumped on the kitchen counter it is the complete opposite of my damn that thing flies yeah whenever I see those um those hurting dogs that are just like they live for it I I'm so happy for that dog that it gets to like it was made to do a thing, and it loves doing that thing, and it's getting to do that thing. The farmer will have it on some muddy ATV, and we're like, you ready, Kip?
Starting point is 02:56:49 And he's like, you better fucking believe it. This is what I dream for. And he's like, all right, round them up. And he's just a bullet into the pasture rounding up the herd and bringing them back where they're supposed to go. It's really impressive. I have seen them run across a flock of sheep's backs. And I'm like, you can
Starting point is 02:57:06 do that? I didn't think that was a thing that could be done. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't grow up with like, you know, no one around us raised livestock in a way that required a herding dog, but I would see bird dogs that were of an elite level because a lot of my dad's friends, he'd ever took part in it, but they would do that bird dogging competition where they go in the field and they hide birds like Easter eggs, living birds, and then you go and run the course and try to, and it's it's like the Olympics where each little component of bird hunting is, is weighed in. measured like how how quickly did you find the bird how well did the dog point did you hit the bird when it flew et cetera et cetera and then they they have like fucking ribbons and trophies and shit for that stuff and those dogs would be incredibly impressive like um watching them do their thing i don't know how much of its genetics and how much of its training but when i when i bought dac at the at that uh dog training school that was training that wasn't genetics that dog would
Starting point is 02:58:06 go get a goddamn beer out of the fridge like that's what sold me i almost feel like it was a salesman scam that he'd go get me a Miller light and at the time I was like is he differentiating between Miller light and a different beverage in that refrigerator but of course there's nothing but Miller lights in the fridge but he comes running back with a goddamn beer
Starting point is 02:58:24 and he opened the fridge by pulling a towel that's tied to the door and he shut the door behind himself and I was like I guess these dogs are just geniuses give me one and then I got an attack dog for some reason my daughter's dog is wild We all have different versions of a perfect dog, right? Our boyfriend loves this athletic dog.
Starting point is 02:58:46 The dog jumps at you from like 10 feet away because it likes to be caught and then carried upside down like a baby. And I'm like, the fuck's happening. The dog is hurling itself through the air and you catch me? Like, why do I have a dog in my arms? What is it? It's a mix, but it looks like a small chocolate lab. like a 50 chocolate lab That's awesome
Starting point is 02:59:13 Yeah Toby's too big to be carried But you can tell he wishes he weren't Because like little Pomeranian I can like pick up He's a little sausage fucker But he's 15 pounds But Toby's close to 100 now
Starting point is 02:59:26 He's a fucking big boy And I mean I'll pick him up sometimes And like But I'm standing there like I hope you appreciate this big boy And he's like I'm not sure you do I'll put you down big fuck yeah
Starting point is 02:59:44 I still carry my dogs all the time because they don't obey well enough so it's like we were going to this room and no one of the other my dogs know the basics they sit they come they stay and they'll shut the fuck up when you tell them to like I recall it's a good combo I scream shut the fuck up and that's the command for for be quiet and it works really well um the funniest thing. They're all like Karens. They get in the window up on the top of the couch and they watch the neighbors. So like there and anybody that walks down the road, they have a meltdown.
Starting point is 03:00:18 And I've like, like people can hear them. Like there's just some guy, some nice guy walking his dog. And my dogs are just at the glass fogging it up like side by side by side. Like I don't know why they're that aggressive. They've never had to get in a fight or had an issue with anybody, but they are super protective. They don't like hearing people nearby. There's, no way you could break in my house. Like, like, it's better than any security system imaginable. Not on the dogs, but, and I hate to rein on your potential earlier bet, Kyle. But it seems a lot of news sources are reporting that a person of interest for the shooting at Brown University has been found dead from a self-inflicted shooting in a warehouse.
Starting point is 03:01:04 We'll wait for further details. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I like that. I like that. my eyes. No, no, I think what he should demand the 10. When I hear that the shooter killed himself in an abandoned warehouse somewhere and we immediately found him and identified him as the shooter, I now
Starting point is 03:01:22 need to know who was shot at Brown. I now need to know if there was like a Iranian science. Yeah, but what did they all? It was that lady who was the head of the Young Republicans Club and then that guy
Starting point is 03:01:36 who, I don't know his backstory, but he was killed as well. Well, and it was an Arab guy, I believe. Do they think it was politically motivated? I don't know. I've seen conspiracies about it, but I haven't seen enough information to know what. But I did see reported that, like, because they said that there were eyewitnesses, which implies that the shooter walked past people to get somewhere to do shooting, and that he shot that girl who was the head of the young Republican thing,
Starting point is 03:02:06 or young conserved, I don't know, some political shot her eight times and once in the face. And so it seems like he definitely wanted her dead, but still like what are we to take from that? Is it a personal vendetta? Is it a political vendetta? Right, right. X or, you know, maybe, I hope we find out.
Starting point is 03:02:26 She was an aspiring neurosurgeon. Yeah, it's tragic. I would be a league student, an aspiring neurosurgeon. I bet she was bright. Yeah. yeah it's really really horrible and then the other guy was an Uzbeki man who was also an aspiring
Starting point is 03:02:44 neurosurgeon well they were in a apparently they were in a study group this guy was targeting neurosurgeons clearly fucking hard to find two side by side he was in the neuroscience department the neuroscience I mean that's what I heard maybe I'm wrong
Starting point is 03:03:02 and maybe by the time this release is Saturday I'm made a fool but I heard that he attacked a study group and that it was her study group maybe or maybe there's no way to know like but it seems if she was shot that many times and in the face also that like he definitely wanted
Starting point is 03:03:17 fucking her dad because it seems that he like people sometimes they post all over Facebook their belief system and then you can infer I hate neuroscience a bunch of hogwash you need essential oils and crystals that'll sort you right out. I'm going to kill that. You need
Starting point is 03:03:38 piss. I think Taylor's right. The fact that he like shot that woman so much seems like it's a personal thing. And so I bet when it boils down my my like shoot from the hip guess would be that it's a love interest that had spurned his advances
Starting point is 03:03:54 and that that Uzbek man was perhaps a hero who tried to defend her or got in the way in somewhere. I could see it being a political thing just because it's brown and there's like 15 people in the young conservative thing and so it's just statistically odd
Starting point is 03:04:12 that like one of the heads of that would be a target If you're going to do a politically motivated shooting you might want to aim a little higher than a student member of the conservative group at Brown you're going to give your life for the cause of taking down conservatism. That's the exact thought I had which is like you know
Starting point is 03:04:29 that person might have aimed higher and that's not to malign this girl and say she wasn't, like, doing what she could. She was not, he had a power player in the Republican Party. Yeah, she's no Lindsey Graham or something like that. That's what, if you hated the Republican Party, like, you'd do something like that. I seriously doubt it's politically motivated. The fact that he shot her so many times, that, that's, that reeks of like a personal,
Starting point is 03:04:55 I'm angry at you because you don't want me kind of thing. That's what they always say in like, when, like, women have been like, um, stabbed to death or strangled to death. it's almost always a partner. It's something like that. I think there was some statistic I read the other day. It was like if a man chokes a woman once, like in a violent way, her odds of being choked to death raised by like 750%.
Starting point is 03:05:16 Now that stat is a little bit like the fact that people who own spit swimming pools are more likely to drown. But you see the correlation nonetheless. Either way, Kyle, it's not looking good for your bet. It's looking like I owe Woody $10. We will see soon enough, I would imagine. Although they've been so bumble. with this thing, that I would be
Starting point is 03:05:35 surprised if it's completely unrelated. And what actually went over the radio was, a brown guy is dead in the warehouse. Dude, the fucking the level of ineptitude is a brown guy or the brown guy. Who cares? Doesn't matter. Hey, what about
Starting point is 03:05:51 those thousands of cameras? They weren't on. It's like, well, then, what are we? Why even have them if the cameras aren't on? Yeah, that's, that's, I I want to know why their cameras were seemingly not recording or the ones they had weren't. Like that seems like gross negligence on behalf of whoever's in charge of like public or student safety or something like that like who who's got to got to lose their job for this.
Starting point is 03:06:20 Right. I agree with you. I can't help but notice a shift in my own attitude. Like I would have said cameras everywhere. What is this? Russia. You know, communist China, UK, CCTV all over. the place. Now I'm like, dude, for my own
Starting point is 03:06:35 cameras. Yeah, it's like if it's going to be their cameras at Brown. Yeah, dude, modern universities are dude, if Mizzou had cameras when I went there in 2009, fucking Brown has cameras in 2025. Like, that's, that's insane
Starting point is 03:06:51 to not have, like, tons of footage. Right? It said that one of the challenges was a lack of cameras. Their lack of surveillance footage is how they phrased it. I saw the um, the head PD in that area doing an interview with the media
Starting point is 03:07:07 and he this is like this was yesterday so five days post shooting and some journalist was very heated being like so have you spoken to all the eyewitnesses have you learned what you can from them and everything and he was like no but we're still working with the
Starting point is 03:07:23 university to try and figure out the right people to talk to and it's like this is five days in motherfucker like are you serious they don't know exactly from camera footage who was in that region of the study hall or whatever when this happened, that doesn't pass the smell test for me. That's like, no, unless it's a level of ineptive. If you're so bad at your job that people immediately spring to conspiracies to explain your ineptitude, you shouldn't be in that
Starting point is 03:07:51 position. Incompetence is far more prevalent than conspiracy. Yeah. I would guess that it's largely incompetence and some retardant Brown who turned the cameras off, who knows why, or just didn't maintain them. I don't know. But that doesn't make sense. We grow up being brainwashed to some extent to trust power and institutions by the sitcoms and even in television shows we read. Because when you watch a TV show about the FBI, they're the best and brightest. They're all fucking geniuses in their fields and they work seamlessly together. And you watch a show about anybody and it'll be like that. You watch ER? Oh my God. How could you? How could you? Yeah, I'll drive fast. I'll end up in there. I've seen
Starting point is 03:08:32 them work lately law and order oh my god it's the best lawyers and they don't just want to win they want to get the bad guy it's not motivated motivated by wins and losses they're out for truth and justice that's not how it real life is like that's not real life no that's Hollywood yeah yeah most of those people are incompetent and they're they're drinking too much on nights and they have flaws and interpersonal issues and they don't work well with their co-workers because that's what humans are like yeah yeah it's just disappointing when you've been led to believe like what's the meme where it's like say the line Bart it's like he was on our radar like where every time there's a shooting the FBI's like oh yeah we knew about this that's um we knew
Starting point is 03:09:15 about it I was thinking about how that Peter Thiel guy has just talked about the Antichrist and and uh and surveillance and stuff and AI and I was trying to imagine what the fuck even means by that but I thought if you had all the problem the problem that we have right here is a case study and not having enough cameras and not having those cameras integrated and not being able to take in decipher and and understand all of the information from if there's 20 what did I say 1,200 cameras at Brown times one hour. There's 1,200 hours of footage that needs to be combed through meticulously. But an AI is real good at that shit. If you had cameras all over the country, all linked together, being ran by one AI that you could ask a prompt
Starting point is 03:10:00 to and then using all of that video information that it at quantum speed, not watching one minute at a time, but watching all minutes at all times could then spit out an answer. Oh, yeah, that guy's right here. Oh, every guy wearing brown shoes and a cowboy's hat in the country? Here you go. Well, that's what like it seems that like that Palantir shit was meant to be, like surveillance. But it seems like their level of surveillance is far more interested in like finding teenagers posting anti-Israel memes
Starting point is 03:10:33 than they are about like shutting down actual lines. Once you have the machine and wield it however you want and it can be wielded by the people in power, right? But the integration is the important part. Put a trillion cameras all over the planet and they're useless if you can't centralize and quickly pull
Starting point is 03:10:48 the relevant information out. And the only way you do that is with an AI. With a like chat GPT style like bot that immediately knows where everybody is You can't even use chat GPT anymore because you'll ask it like, who is the shooter? And it'll be like, this answer is brought to you by Culvers.
Starting point is 03:11:07 I haven't had ads in my chat GPT. Have you? I heard it. I just saw people posting videos and screen recordings of it where it was just like funny answers where they would ask something and it would be like, this was, you know, this answer brought to you by fucking PepsiCo or whatever the company was.
Starting point is 03:11:27 That's fine if you're not paying. Like, you don't pay for the premium version, right? Yeah, but it would make you suddenly ask questions about like the, like the rigorous level of analysis for questions, right? Like, if you asked it, what is the best soft drink? And it was like, the best soft drink is Pepsi Cola. This answer brought to you by Yum Enterprise or like whatever. Like, you wouldn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:52 What's the best brand of soda? Thanks for asking the question. That's interesting. They always compliment my question, where they're like, that's a good question. You're not a retard. That's fair. You gave the real answer. I don't think it's the real answer.
Starting point is 03:12:11 What's the real tastiest soda? What did it say? There isn't universally agreed upon best cola. A lot of it comes down to personal taste, cultural preferences, and what you grew up drinking. But here's a breakdown of how people generally rank major cola brands. Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper, and then other cola parts. products, and that's true. Yeah, but I could answer that.
Starting point is 03:12:33 Well, that wasn't the hardest question. Yeah, but I mean, like, it's not useful if that's just knowledge you know intuitively. It's just giving you, like, sales. How many men did Alexander the Great bring with him from Macedonia? To where? India. Yes, to India. Well, there were a lot of campaigns. Depends. How many of your exact number? Chat, GPT, has one.
Starting point is 03:12:55 All right, like, minutes ago. Okay, how many did you bring to India? Oh, I don't know. I didn't put the prompt. Oh, I thought you'd excuse me. I was bluffing. I was engaging in February. That's a little bit of war. Oh, he's left.
Starting point is 03:13:11 He's left now. Oh, I wonder, though, like so many times I hear about these ancient wars, I feel like the number of soldiers has been exaggerated. It's always like a million people per side, 500,000 people. And I'm like, really? That seems like a lot. I can't even imagine a field with some of these numbers in the same place.
Starting point is 03:13:33 Yeah. I don't know. I know they've got battlefield records and graveyards and stuff. And a lot of the times with the Crusades, there's like payment records because the church was paying so many people to go. And so there's X amount of gold was distributed.
Starting point is 03:13:48 I don't know. We definitely know those World War I battles were of that enormous size. where like I think 15 or 20,000 people died in one day on the psalm like just just one battle like 20,000 men would die and they're that go did once I get overrun did they use gas that they went the lines um we watched those Ukraine lines move and it's like oh look at that bouncing back and forth but the lines were almost static for years and years that's why um on the day that 20 thousand people died they were still static it sounds like that's a breakthrough to me which is what i was
Starting point is 03:14:25 thinking i think there was a rush and they kept rushing and it was artillery and machine gun fire and there's always and gas and all that stuff um the british kept sending men in like like the they said more was more and it they just fed men to the machine guns for years and years um that's why they they they started digging tunnels under the the no man's land and got under the enemy positions and then they would pack huge amounts of explosives underneath them and blow them up. I think they were called clay kickers or something like that. The tunnel juice. These are good old Birmingham English boys that had been pulled out of minds and such to go like the Germans are like, do you hear voices underneath
Starting point is 03:15:16 they're crazy? No, they would. Later on, once they got wise, to the term. The Germans started doing it back to the British after like this new kind of warfare had come into play. And so they'd be in the tunnels with stethoscopes listening to the walls. And sometimes you and the Germans would be tunneling parallel to each other. And you'd be like, they're right on the other side. And then like you fucking dig them out and bayonet, a bunch of guys up under the earth. Bayonet start poking through. Well, this is awkward. In World War I, they would tunnel under enemy positions and plant huge amounts of explosives. to blow up the entrenched positions.
Starting point is 03:15:54 That's a cool thing to do. I thought you were talking about World War II, and I just thought of the hypothetical. Do you think if the U.S. would have joined on the side of Japan, Italy, and Germany, they could have conquered all of Western Europe? Oh, yeah, totally. Even with the Soviets still on the Allies? So the Soviets were able to do what they did to the Germans on the backs of our food.
Starting point is 03:16:21 food and trucks. So I don't have the number in my head, but we sent like 75,000 trucks to the Soviets or something like that, and we fed them when they would have starved. Would the Nazis have steamrolled the Soviets if we hadn't supplied the Soviets, is what you're saying? The Soviets wouldn't have been able to make their counter push after Stalingrad without our material that we were giving them in gargantuan amounts. I can't remember the numbers because it's from a documentary I watched a month ago, but we fed, it fueled, and put the machines underneath the Soviet engine of war as far as trucks, food, and stuff like that goes.
Starting point is 03:17:06 They wouldn't have been able to do that. We would have balkanized it afterwards or split it up. We did split it up anyway. We had East and West Germany. Oh, I mean, in the different situation where we joined with Italy, Germany, Japan. Would we just have taken the United Kingdom? We take pieces of Western Europe? No, I think that I don't know what would have happened in that scenario, but in the alternate histories that I've seen, it's we're entering into the side of Germany and Japan not to take parts of what they are trying to take.
Starting point is 03:17:37 And in Japan's case, it's the Southeast Asia, basically, all of China, Indonesia, Korea, like all that is what they're trying to eventually put their flag over. And then some of Eastern Eurasia as well, like perhaps even into, they, even, they had their own beefs with the Russians. And obviously Hitler wants all of Europe. That, that's all taken. So what we would do in the alternate histories that I've seen is take our bite out of South America. I think we would have gotten something out of Europe too, because like Japan was obsessed with getting that all of Japan and then part of China. Hitler was like, had a boner for reuniting the Sudeten land. like he wanted all that all those germanic people but that doesn't include like the u.k and so we could
Starting point is 03:18:21 have we could have peeled that off i don't know what would have happened if the soviet union had been defeated i'd love to i watched this historian named sarah pain her uh her like speeches on youtube are fascinating she's so well informed and i don't know what you do if you conquer if hitler conquered the soviet union which he was close to doing he got to stalingrad and they stopped him but i think stalingrad is like 80 miles from fucking moscow or something like that It would have been fucking over if they lost Stalin grand. But if Moscow falls, and even if they kill Stalin, the Soviet unit is so fucking big.
Starting point is 03:18:54 Like, how do you ever, like, plant your flag over that and have that be your land? Where, I mean, the Nazis had done it to Poland. Like, Poland was theirs. France was theirs. Poland's not small. And the populations of those countries had submitted and, like, bent the knee.
Starting point is 03:19:09 And they were like, all right, well, we don't like it. But I guess we work for the Nazis now. Poor Poland, dude. like they they got fucked I don't buy into this idea that the Russians are this like absolutely unstoppable force that can win any war Ukraine's kind of proven that untrue
Starting point is 03:19:24 however they never quit everyone like what they endured in World War II and even what they're enduring now in Ukraine it just seems like they keep going and going and going and if they had taken Moscow and Stalin had fallen I still think you'd have to freaking kill the last Russian
Starting point is 03:19:42 to keep that property you'd have to I mean they're that's why we like frame them as like a stout enemy it's not even like their technology or anything it's like their culture of like being resolute like this is what the mission is and we are going to do it when they will pour as many people as we need so here's what we gave them they'll live in the rebel and never stop fighting yeah that's totally possible so here's what the U.S. gave the Soviet Union for their war effort 11.3 billion dollars which is the equivalent of $180 billion in current money. We gave them 4.5 million tons of food, including sugar, fats, meats, et cetera. 400,000 trucks, jeeps and tractors, 14,000 airplanes, 13,000 tanks, 2,000 locomotives, and thousands more rail cars. That's crazy. That's crazy. thousand tons of cotton petroleum products and other materials millions of pairs of boots blankets
Starting point is 03:20:41 radios and consumer goods we fed clothed vehicles how on earth did germany keep this close i'm fucking saying like if we're talking about russians being resolute the last thing we need again on this planet is is germans getting mad again because they're so good at it they're They're like, oh, there's a problem. I will engineer a new thing that blows the problem up. America isn't the manufacturing, like, supreme person that they were back in the time. So now I'm like, oh, my gosh, if there was a world war, is that what it's like to have China as your ally? Is it going to be like, dude, China gave us so many drones.
Starting point is 03:21:25 China gave us so much food. I'm not sure about that one. China gave us, you know, so many fucking Android phones. I'm not sure what they make. But, like, I don't know. that we can supply a country like Russia like we did before. Definitely not. Yeah, our manufacturing
Starting point is 03:21:41 sectors hollowed out and so we would be relying on a China to, just like with COVID where it was like, oh, we actually don't have the things that make masks. And it's like, that seems like an oversight. Seems like we probably fucking should have at least one. Like maybe somewhere in Ohio, throw a mask plant.
Starting point is 03:21:57 I believe we could spool up production on things like vehicles and tanks and maybe even like the less advanced aircraft. that if we don't have some sort of chip shortage, but the smart munitions, we would be out of in a couple of months in a shooting war with China.
Starting point is 03:22:17 Even raw stuff, like steel, right? America's steel industry has been protected and coddled by tariffs for 60 years, and that's why it's an uncompetitive bullshit, expensive, garbage industry here. They are efficient, and they make great stuff overseas because they're lean,
Starting point is 03:22:35 fucking tiger muscle with skin stretched over the slaves doing the labor. It's hard to match. You're in America fucking coddled and protected and they're only competitive because we put tariffs on their competitors. Worthwhile.
Starting point is 03:22:51 I can't imagine your own manufacturing. Obviously American laborers can't compete with the prices provided by slaves in the third world. They're automated overseas and they're labor intensive here. I mean, we could be automated. But we don't need to be because we can compete because the other people are
Starting point is 03:23:09 terrorists. We don't need to be until the moment we 100% have to be. And then we won't have to the tariffs. I don't know if we're going to fight another World War II style war though, like if we're in a 21st century fight against a peer like China or a near peer, they're not a peer. Okay, they're becoming a peer. Near peer is the terminology that the military analysts usually usually usually used for China. I don't know that the war lasts long enough for us to need to build the replacements for the things we've lost, like battleships and tanks and aircraft carriers. I don't think the war lasts so long. We better pray it doesn't, because if so, we're fucked.
Starting point is 03:23:49 The whole world better pray it doesn't. The whole world better pray that we all launch salvos at each other and then both realized that this was a big mistake and de-escalate. Like the way World War II was going, where after Pearl Harbor, they ordered like 27 aircrafts. carriers like that was the that was the order like not to mention all of the the thousands of other boats that were built they were cranking out liberty ships in 20 hours or something every 20 hours another one just from one fucking dock the the amount of production that was required to keep up with that like while we were given russia all that stuff and fueling two wars on opposite sides of the planet all we had all those tariffs and we still managed to do that well we were giving we were feeding the whole world and giving the whole world trucks right so we're fighting two wars on two different sides of the planet while giving the the starving Russians and the starving Brits enormous amounts of material while having a surplus back home. I was talking about how those German prisoners of war
Starting point is 03:24:45 were talking about how much butter they were getting every meal. And they couldn't fathom. They were like, this is a trick. They're out of butter, and this is the last, like, they're emptying the jars. Were we giving them real butter? Because prisoners of war,
Starting point is 03:25:02 we don't have to torture them or anything, but they should be getting like marjorie. not our nice American butter the rules were they got the same meal as our troops did 3,500 calories a day that they would get
Starting point is 03:25:16 3,500 a day? That's a lot. Yeah, that's like when I'm cutting. That's that fucking World War II I just starved in Europe eating beet soup because the Russians had me for a while kind of like those guys were coming in. They show their weights when they were checked in
Starting point is 03:25:34 and when they checked out. And by the end, the journals represent and the guards are writing. Like, a lot of the guys have gotten fat and they're embarrassed. So they've started skipping deals. Do I like, we have our Polish guy in our hangout. Yeah. Who I love, great guy. And it's so interesting hearing the Polish perspective on World War II because, you know,
Starting point is 03:25:59 the Molotov Ribbentrop's Pact, which was between the Nazis, and the Soviets at the very beginning of World War II which was about them splitting Poland between each other and so the Nazis went in the Soviets went in they were going to split Poland and so if you talk to Polish people now like he'll be
Starting point is 03:26:18 like yeah the Germans like they're fine now but I still don't trust them really and the Soviets the Russians can get fucked despicable don't like that and so like they're just Poland got so uniquely fucked in that conflict
Starting point is 03:26:34 nothing new. So much. Dude, the Slavs have gone through... The Slavs have gone through more hell than maybe any other group on Earth just consistently for centuries being fucked with by great powers on all sides.
Starting point is 03:26:48 Poland used to be like two and a half times bigger. It encompassed all of Lithuania and it sort of tailed down to the south east with more territories. And they were partitioned by the Habsburgs, the Russians and the Prussians, I believe. And like,
Starting point is 03:27:02 it's dividing conquer. all it is you know that they've been getting fucked over for since 1790 something but and even before that they were in that group that fucking gangus con went through like that that's a tough place to be i don't know the gangis con made it to poland bro i'm not didn't he go through the uh the east caucus i don't think he made it poland oh maybe not i guess that wasn't part of poland it would have gone a little further south right So he would have been, not where Turkey is, but where Uzbekistan is. More like the top of Bulgaria, all of Croatia, all of Hungary.
Starting point is 03:27:48 It doesn't look like the main Mongol invasion made it to Poland. So he got all the way to the Baltics? Yeah. I think he made it all the way to whatever that sea is off of Hungary. So the Black Sea? We talked about that empire before. like Genghis Khan's story is fucking cool because he was he grew up with like this horrible upbringing of awful things happening to him he was enslaved for a while and bandits stole his wife before his eyes while he was tied to a yoke like he had the worst imaginable child that's a good origin story and then once he took over most of Eurasia including all of China at one point I think like he would be merciful and understanding and sort of in the way that like
Starting point is 03:28:36 the guy you like in a medieval drama or stuff is like like he thinks before he acts if you look at some of the stuff he did that's what he strikes you as like don't get me wrong he was horrific he boiled people alive yeah but he was fighting this group one time
Starting point is 03:28:51 and he got shot an enemy soldier shot him with an arrow I think in the neck but that doesn't make sense because you think he'd died but he survives the arrow wound and the battle ends and he's got them all prisoner
Starting point is 03:29:02 and the guy who shot him is there and he's like, who shot me? And the guy's like, I shot you. He made the guy as general. He's like, thank you for you. I appreciate your honesty. And like, you know, that is like a...
Starting point is 03:29:14 He made him one of his generals. That's like, that's like how Dumbledore acts at the end of every Harry Potter. Where he's like, Harry, for cheating entirely in the tournament, the Tri-Wizard tournament, I award a jillion points for Gryfigo.
Starting point is 03:29:32 It's like, they're all, yay! And then there's that one team who's like, we play by the rules, but because our emblem is a snake, it reminds me into us. He sent some messengers to these people one time, this kingdom of whoever the fuck. And I think they wanted to open trade relations with them or something like that. And the king there invites the messengers into his court,
Starting point is 03:29:52 beats the shit out of them, shaves their beards, which I guess is like a huge dishonor or something. Yeah, because then you see a big fat fucking face. It would be dishonorable. Yeah, I mean, they're Mongolians. Suddenly, the chins are no longer hypothetical. They're there.
Starting point is 03:30:08 He got more chins than most Chinamen. So send them back all, like, disgraced and shamed. And Genghis Khan is like, all right, go back and tell them like, for real, though, we're cool. You know, we can make a deal. And like, look, all I got to do is this, that, and the other and we'll be cool. He sent those guys heads back to Genghis Khan, killed the next group. So Genghis Khan killed every man, woman in China. in the city.
Starting point is 03:30:33 I wish I could remember the number, but it might have been like a half a million people. He exterminated. They don't know what those people were called anymore. So it wasn't just the city of Han Chinese? With aristocracy,
Starting point is 03:30:50 sometimes they would have captured a prince or the prince's cousin or something like that from some place and they're going to put him to death. Like, ah, you lost, we're going to kill you now. But you wouldn't, shed the blood of a nobleman but they treat that rule the same way the Amish do
Starting point is 03:31:07 about telephones so they'd roll you up in a carpet and then they would stampede horses over you or they would or they would bowl you alive something like that. You ruin a whole carpet. Yeah yeah well I mean
Starting point is 03:31:21 that is the real tragedy in that. That's the real tragedy that's an ancient car. What I always like about the Mongolians is the composite bows and I Kyle you might know more I think they were the first ones to figure that out right
Starting point is 03:31:36 where they would put like bone as the interior of the bow and then sine you on the outside so that it would bend with intensity and so they could get like it's called a laminate almost as much power I don't think they got as much power
Starting point is 03:31:50 but like given the size of their because they were little short bows and they were getting like punching power that was almost as intense as like British long bows from a few centuries earlier Like maybe not as intense as the British longbow, but it was enough to like punch. They punched over the wrong weight glass.
Starting point is 03:32:07 Yeah, for sure. And that's really cool. And their kind of warfare involved like being one with that horse and riding not just on its back, but under its neck and around its side. And like you see even today some of the traditional Mongolian horse riders and some of the tricks they do where they get off the horse and run alongside it while holding on to it and then flick themselves back onto the horse and they go under its belly and up the other side. and then around its neck and onto the other side. And they're like, I don't know, Cirque to Surley performers who want your blood. I think it was the Apache who had a similar way
Starting point is 03:32:43 of firing their bows from their horses as horse archers where they would create this. Wow, only over a thousand years later. And more maybe, yeah, maybe 2,000 years later. That's like if I came to you right now and it's like, Kyle, I've invented a type of bow with bone and sine it's like on the computer
Starting point is 03:33:03 it's kind of hard it's pretty hard you know it's not up to stuff with like everyone over there all they're guns oh you wait till the power goes out them of the boom and we'll take charge when I was
Starting point is 03:33:15 bow technology is still getting better when I was a kid my first bow was a PSC Nova and it was 55 pounds draw and I think it shot about 278 feet per second which is slower than a paintball.
Starting point is 03:33:31 You very clearly see your arrow as it's arcing toward your target. I think modern bows are closer to 400 feet per second now. Obviously, they draw a little bit harder, but the 400 feet per second is crazy fast for a fucking arrow. I'm surprised you never got into that. I know you had your recurve bow, but compound bows are closer to guns than bows.
Starting point is 03:33:56 They're neat, but part of the fun of the compound bow. is that you're like holding it the whole time. It feels old. It feels kind of anachronistic and that's enjoyable. You mean the recurve? The recurve, yeah, where you have to hold the full weight at your cheek until you're ready to shoot. Because I've used compound bows before.
Starting point is 03:34:17 And it's like, I mean, it is way easier. Yeah, the way the pullies work you have. We called it letoff. I don't know if that's what the industry term is, but once you get it all the way back, those pulleys roll over, and you're holding like 15, 20% or something of the total draw weight, which is usually, I think an adult usually shoots like a 70 or 80-pound, draw-pull ball, draw-pull weight.
Starting point is 03:34:44 How much does an arrow weigh? I'm curious about this. I don't know. Because AI told me, you mentioned velocity of it, And it says that for a British long bow, it would be 190 feet per second for a heavy war arrow. How fast again? So like a bodkin arrow, a hundred gram arrow going 190 feet per second. Okay.
Starting point is 03:35:16 Because that seems like a very heavy arrow. Hunting arrows are like 300 to 500 grains according to this. grains yeah it's a it's the measurement you use for bullets oh no this just says grams it says a hundred grams for a heavy war arrow grains that got 190 feet per second from
Starting point is 03:35:39 high draw weight bows so that's 19 to 32 grams of a modern carbon fiber arrow according to this okay so 19 to 32 is that speed So this ancient, not ancient, but this British arrow weighs triple that and goes 190 feet per second, half the speed. And so that would probably hit tremendously hard. So there's more factors than just mass times velocity to determine that like punching power because the stiffness of a carbon fiber arrow is going to be unparalleled from a piece of wood that you're launching at me with. And I think that it's also going to have a better ballistic coefficients, a co-efficiency.
Starting point is 03:36:26 So it's the car. The ballistic coefficients. I was about to talk about that. That's how well it cuts through the air broken down into a, like a decimal point number. But basically, I think the modern arrow is going to maintain its speed for longer. It's going to decelerate more slowly. And also the broadheads and the field points of modern arrows are just going to be better. They're just going to be a harder, sharper steel.
Starting point is 03:36:51 Oh, I'm sure a lot of these old ones weren't even fully steel. It was like pig-gued steel. No, that was the whole industry for making those arrowheads. I watched this great documentary about all the different arrowheads the British used. And it's like, this one is for armor and this one is for flesh. And, you know, obviously the flesh one is wide and barbed. And the one for armor is skinny, long, elongated, and sharpened. The British were so much better than every other civilization at archery for so long.
Starting point is 03:37:18 It was cultural. in war yeah it was a cultural thing and that's why they loved it and they were good at it like being an archer in some civilization it would be a common thing to do in your backyard with your boys it would be a common thing for your sons to be like running around with their little bows like from an early age and then they pre industrialization they sort of industrialized the making of fletchings and arrows and arrowheads like it was a it was a skill that lots of people had and trained at and then the the archer himself was as close to like a professional soldier as existed in that time period maybe because you did you mostly had peasant armies but to be an archer required skills and talents and training and you had to be strong as fuck because those boats were 100 pounds to pull back and we're talking about skinny malnourished Englishmen not you know like you can pull 100 pounds back with a boat no problem like it's it's yeah I'm much fatter than the average Englishman in the year 1580 all three of us can you know like like Like, it's, it's, it's not an impossible feat, but it's definitely, like, if you handed a hundred pound bow to, like, the average accountant, he cannot draw that motherfucker.
Starting point is 03:38:26 Dude, a hundred pound bow for the overwhelming majority of people today is an impossibility. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. All three of us lift weights regularly and have for years. Of course, we can pull it back. Like, the average person doesn't lift weights or exercise or anything. There's some technique to it, too. I don't, I don't know anything about longbow shooting. I've never done it. But, you know, it's a push-pull motion. you know when you're drawing yeah you push with the left hand
Starting point is 03:38:52 pull with the right yeah sure and then you see their skeletons where they dig them up and it's like this is the skeleton of an archer look at how enormously overdeveloped his bone structure is on the right pull side of his body like this guy was walking around like this
Starting point is 03:39:07 with his shoulders like at different heights because of how developed one side of his body was always contracting it's really cool we live in such a wonderful time I know like politics and the world can seem a little ugly sometimes, but my God, imagine being like rounded up to go fight the French.
Starting point is 03:39:26 Oh, my God. A life before Aspartame, don't even talk to me. I need my Sprite zeros. I need my diet coax. Like meat on your table would be a rarity that might happen four or five times a year or occasionally when a pig got slaughtered. And you're malnourished, you're filthy and you're as poor as you're basically a slave to the feudal system
Starting point is 03:39:49 they didn't call them slaves but every like peasant was basically a slave you work for a lord or lady and they didn't pay cash and they round you up to go fight the French in a hand-to-hand melee oh my God I'm so afraid of a real knife fight where we get to be on equal
Starting point is 03:40:05 grounds. The idea of a like the idea of a real sword fight charging into those lines and get poked and prodded and knowing there's no medicine so the tiniest scratch is probably going to get gangrenous. What a nightmare I watch I mean we have inconveniences now
Starting point is 03:40:23 we do yeah sometimes sometimes they don't bring you the correct allotment of soda when you order it on the internet I said friendly in our graders dude shab this is just as bad as Adjancourt dude jane court dude I was I watch a top gear and it's funny because it's a British show and this is like from the year like 2007
Starting point is 03:40:46 or something the episode I'm watching and like Jeremy Clarkson is like giving guff to like a French guest about like the battle of Agincourt like hundreds of years ago and it's like I just
Starting point is 03:41:01 it just reaffirms that shit where it's like yeah in America 100 miles is a short distance in Europe 100 years is a short time and it's just it's cool like they just this like if you were if you're some Chinese guy and you see a picture of 10 Frenchman
Starting point is 03:41:17 and 10 Brits, he's going to be like, why you talk about that 10 white people? Like he, but like, to them, they're like, you despicable frog eating pieces of shit. We beat you. And then the French will fireback like, oh, yeah, well, how did that battle go, uh, 80 years later?
Starting point is 03:41:34 Hmm? How did you, uh, repeal Napoleon? No? Mm. Like, they like talk shit and that's, that's cool. Like, that's cool history, like an action and that, the, the memory is long in a place.
Starting point is 03:41:46 And the buildings are old. I think it's neat. I think it's need to walk around. You're like, shit, like, this bar is from 1645? Yeah. Japan has, they have, like, they'll be flippant about things older than anything on our continent. Right. And they'll be like, oh, this is called old jimmies, Miden 1490.
Starting point is 03:42:06 Pretty shithole place. That's older than our rocks. Yeah. It is. It's older than that. Oh, yeah. We don't have anything that all in this continent because the Indians made. everything out of like fucking leaves
Starting point is 03:42:18 so it just didn't stick around they found stone burial mounds before we change topics like have you seen the movie the king it's about King Henry and the Battle of Agingport it's the Netflix thing was that a movie was that we're talking about it's on Netflix but it is a movie starring Timothy Shalame
Starting point is 03:42:37 and Robert Pattinson I haven't seen that about Henry invading France maybe five years old yeah 2019 is it good is it worth of water I thought it was amazing Like, you get fucking pumped. You get fucking pumped for Timothy Shalamee, who's a Frenchman playing an English king because he's about to go fight Robert Pattinson, who's an Englishman playing a French prince,
Starting point is 03:42:57 and they're all doing amazing accents. They're killing it. And Henry's boys have his back by the end. There's this part where they're all chanting. They're like, Henry, Henry! And the chanting is like just perfect. And they're like, they're like stomping while they say it. And it becomes almost like a we will, we will rock you kind of moment where you're like,
Starting point is 03:43:15 oh those French are for it now that's great it's good that's hilarious that a French guy is playing the English king and then the English guy is playing the French king I think you'd like it I've seen it I think you'd like it I liked it but it's really up your alley this looks like it's 100%
Starting point is 03:43:32 up my alley as a type of movie when you hear Robert Pattinson start using that French accent and like Timothy Shalamee comes in trying to speak some broken ass French he's like oh no speak English why is Taylor on alert Taylor looks like My dog, when there's a coyote
Starting point is 03:43:47 outside. What was our noise? What fuck was that? See, he has a home invader. Taylor's about to handle shit. I hope he's got his fucking long. Did you see that? He's like,
Starting point is 03:44:02 like, he went into predator mode. His pizza just arrived. That's all it is. We're getting close to the end. I don't think so. I don't think so. He's like Italian sausage. I think he's strapped right now.
Starting point is 03:44:13 All right. Let's find out what happened. that was that spooked me like that you know that sound where someone like you know those knockers on doors the little pop pop pop pop I don't have one of those and I just heard that noise a dozen times that's why it had been through your earpiece no I took it off and I heard it from where my front door is right there I just went out there open my front door looked around no one I told you I told you I told you I saw this man slip into predator mode of like Taylor's.
Starting point is 03:44:50 You didn't have your headset on, but I was like, Taylor's going to go handle shit right now. That was, that, hmm, that spooked me. That was not a noise I've ever heard. So Taylor's spooked response is to go to the front door and chase the smoke. Now we know. Well, you've got, I'm not going to be. I've always go to the second level and get the vat of boiling oil. I'm ready.
Starting point is 03:45:15 I almost ran to my sunroom to my bow display and grabbed it. You weren't here. I was like, he's strapped right now. Oh, hold on, guys. I got to go handle business. I've got this carambit we got from a sponsor nine years ago. I'm not around the other way. You're holding it wrong. I wouldn't put my finger in there. I'd be scared. Get broken off.
Starting point is 03:45:40 Well, the handle's not big enough to put your hand around unless you put your one finger in the thing. otherwise I'm grabbing on to the finger off. I heard G. Gordon Liddy talk about how to take a pistol away from a man while ripping his finger off one time. Down like, who's G. Gordon Liddy? I mean,
Starting point is 03:45:58 he is a notorious bullshit artist, but he did perpetrate the water gate break in, but he did get caught doing so. So, you know, you weigh and measure that one. I think he was in the military or something. He had a great radio show, and just a tremendous,
Starting point is 03:46:14 voice but um i think he's a professional bullshit artist for the most part a lot of those out there i'm on this shooter arc right i played souls games for a couple years and now i'm like neck deep in shooters and i started doing aim training and uh because extraction shooters they're fun but the problem is you get into like 15 gun fights a day right so it's not like enough repetition to really improve and i'm i'm in these aim trainers and then you know There's a lot of scores out there. One of them, out of like the, I don't know, 500,000 people that played it.
Starting point is 03:46:51 I was in the top 13,000. That was one of my better scores. And I'm like, okay, you know, there's a percentage. I could just getting started. I'm learning. And I have this friend, Kyle, you played with him once.
Starting point is 03:47:02 He's always the best gayber at every room. And he doesn't believe in aim trainers. He's like, yeah, the best way to get good at a game is to just play that game a lot. That's how he believes. But I was like, yeah, and I hear you. But attraction shooters, that doesn't get enough. so I'm going to do it. And he's like, well, I can't have you getting ahead of me.
Starting point is 03:47:18 Anyway, he tried an aim trainer for the first time. He's eighth on the planet. Motherfucker. Eight? Yes. He sent me a screenshot of the leaderboards. Fucking hell. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:47:35 Do you know which aim trainer? Aim labs. Oh my God. That's the main one. That's the main one. called AIM donkey. It's from Ukraine. They made it to raise money for armaments. It's rough
Starting point is 03:47:50 over there. So this is the biggest aim bot or aim train. It's the one I know. It's the biggest one I would say, yeah. There's another one called Kovacs, which maybe is the second biggest. Yeah. And he's ranked eight, like as in top of him. He's really good at everything.
Starting point is 03:48:06 Like, he's the guy. He's just good. That's an awesome guy to have on your squad. Dude, I was playing with him and his friend other night, dude named Click. And I told you this in the show the other day, but it just blew me away. They're casually
Starting point is 03:48:20 talking like, you ever play Fortnite? I think the shotgun mechanics are the same in this game as they were in Fortnite. The guy's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I played. I was in the World Cup. One for one, the shotguns. I agree. I was like, wait a minute. Who is this crowd I'm hanging with now?
Starting point is 03:48:37 You're like, I've seen a Fortnite video or two myself, boys. Let me tell you. It doesn't feel the same. I don't know. It's not a snap. dude the way fortnight works it's the first game that's made me feel just boomer mode when i watch where i'm like now he's building the shack he's building the tower to run up like i just don't get it now has no building modes so that people who maybe don't want to work on that uh skill set can be competitive i know how popular fortnight is it probably has made five billion fucking dollars or something like that but i'm gonna tell you i'd rather play nothing
Starting point is 03:49:12 than Fortnite, for every reason and every attribute that it brings to the table. I hate the visuals. I hate the way that game looks. I remember it came out. We were neck deep in PubG at the time, like playing eight hours a day or some shit as a coordinated squad. And
Starting point is 03:49:27 Fortnite came out, a new extraction year. We were all like, let's jump in. And immediately, it was like, ew, this is a game for babies. This feels like a game that's made for 8 to 10 year olds. Like, don't get me wrong. The mechanic are there and the skill ceiling is there and all that but the look of the game it looked like
Starting point is 03:49:47 cheap grand theft auto or something it reminded me of like an old cheap game like i was so turned off by the visuals and then i'm not even going to try to pretend like i can build oh my god it was so hard to like and they and and they're so good at it and but but that skill doesn't interest me like if i were good at building i still wouldn't play fortnight because i it doesn't i don't want to do that. It doesn't seem fun to me. I want to have fun. Apex Legends. I mean, I loved Apex Legends. Yeah, I like, I like new fast-paced, like twitchy games. I like new mechanics.
Starting point is 03:50:23 But Fortnite was just not it. It felt like it was, it felt like it was made for a much younger audience than even like Call of Duty or something. And then they added like seemingly every character from every IP where it's like you can play as Ash Ketchum or Peter Griffin or Homer Simpson or is that like some money making it makes money and also it appeals
Starting point is 03:50:49 to Kyle's point of I think this is the most popular I bet this is the most popular game in middle school like far known I bet it's the most popular game probably in high school too what is that game that's like or maybe it's not even like Minecraft
Starting point is 03:51:05 Roblox Roblox that I think that's actually my numbers that's the actual biggest game by like daily players by an amount you wouldn't even comprehend like it's like over double daily Minecraft players and I think Roblox you can I don't know but I know a lot of kids play it
Starting point is 03:51:24 and I think it's one of those games kind of like you remember Gary's mod back in the day where you could make games within the game yeah and I think that's kind of what Roblox is I know there's a lot of child predators there and so yeah that's what the kids are so that makes sense it makes sense yes target rich environment now i'm playing the pedos
Starting point is 03:51:42 aren't playing tarcov trying to fuck your ass i don't know they do sometimes sometimes it feels that way very much i've seen people make other like suck my dick and I won't kill you they're like they'll get down and crouch up and down on the guy's dick like people are ashamed of
Starting point is 03:51:59 dude burnt peanut offers it he's like listen i have a deal You got banned from TikTok 40 times He was too dirty That's impressive Is TikTok ban happy? I don't use that I think that's why
Starting point is 03:52:17 You probably heard so many people Like remove words like kill And they like delete themselves And all that is just avoiding TikTok censorship Oh yeah That like retarded gay shit Where people are like This guy
Starting point is 03:52:31 This guy unalived himself. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Oh, my God. You can't blame them, though. The rules came down and they're limiting the thing that they do for a living. So they're just trying to keep doing what they do without while being monetized. It makes sense. It's the YouTube to TikToks we should be mad at.
Starting point is 03:52:52 I think YouTube pulled back on the restrictions. I know they now if you say, even if you say fuck at the beginning, they won't demonotize you. Oh, did they change that? I heard the guys from Red Little Media talking about it because they put out maybe four videos a month and do I'm going to say 700,000 to a million views maybe 2 million views sometimes and so each one's kind of important
Starting point is 03:53:13 although they have a great Patreon too but like I heard Jay be like and now we can say fuck again right at the beginning and like fuck that's great and they had a little fun at it you know That would be one of those guys would be a good guest to grab because I know how how into Red Letter Media you are.
Starting point is 03:53:33 Yeah, any of... For years and years and years. You're like an OG fan. You should be able to pull them. I'm a member of the Patreon. I don't remember how much money I send them every month, but I feel like... I'm happy to send it because I hope it will fund new projects
Starting point is 03:53:46 and things that they do. I really like their whole, like, business model and the way that they've been friends since, like, high school, and it's just three... I'll be nice. middle-aged guys like just doing their thing.
Starting point is 03:54:04 Really? If I had to guess, I would say Jay is like 36 and, but the other two seem Mike and Rich both seem like closer to 50 or so.
Starting point is 03:54:20 It's all middle-aged. That is middle-aged. I'm not living to 100, but that's fair. It's middle-aged if you're remarkably optimistic. yeah i'll be a hundred and four someday but i i just like everything they do sometimes they do videos
Starting point is 03:54:38 they do this series called best of the worst where they have a guest usually shows up on the show and then the four of them will watch three awful movies and you'll have footage of them in their like they're like crash pad area watching and joking around and shooting the shit and then you'll have them all sit around a table usually drinking beers and making jokes about what they just watched and trying to decide which of these awful movies was the best. McCulley Culkin's been on there.
Starting point is 03:55:04 He's been a guest two or three times. And Dewey or Louie or Stewie or whatever from the boys, like the quirky nerdy guy. He's been on there a few times. I can't think of his name. It doesn't matter. Howie? Something like that.
Starting point is 03:55:20 Do you want to date Starlight? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been on there a few times. They also do skit-based stuff. And they've got like three or four different kinds. of videos, but I like when they just build sets and Mike, the main guy, collects movie props and they've got the, so he's got a Gremlin, like an original Gremlin from Gremlin two, the whole, he's got like three of those. He's got, if you've ever seen that Sylvester
Starting point is 03:55:45 Salone movie where he gets frozen in the block of ice and then they thaw him out in the future. No, that was Star Wars. Oh, yes. He has the frozen, naked Sylvester Stallone in the block of ice. And it looks very real. The company is too crap. I think they do pretty well. Yeah, I think so. If he's playing up on Stallone
Starting point is 03:56:07 movie set things. Yeah, those guys are awesome. And I, I'll watch their like end of the year movie review thing where they go through like their top 25 movies of the year or movies to check out. And there's often some hidden gyms in there that I'd never heard of and I end up watching.
Starting point is 03:56:23 And I have similar taste to all three of them. I feel like, because one of them's really into like, violent gory like old stuff and the other ones into new stuff and they do a lot of star wars hate which i really respond well to um they they have many hour long videos where one of them does a voice like this and just shits on star wars for three fucking hours just like why did umbo pop up why did the emperor do that is he stupid did he forget that this that and the other happened and that's the exact. I learned
Starting point is 03:57:01 I didn't know it was red letter media but it was an Opie and Anthony clip that like Jim Norton brought on from YouTube and it must have been red letter media because they listened to it on the air in like 2009 or something and it was that same silly voice where it was like
Starting point is 03:57:17 what do you even care about the pot race? It clearly doesn't matter it's going to be fine Just like that And it was very, very funny And so I didn't know that was them Yeah, those guys are awesome
Starting point is 03:57:34 They made a movie called Space Cop That's just they did their best You know what I mean They did their best That's a bad move If you're a reviewer Is putting your foot in the ring Because then anytime you review something in the future
Starting point is 03:57:48 People can be like Oh remember that movie you made That was a complete dog shit You don't know what you're talking about You couldn't make something better than me Don't criticize me They reference itself deprecatingly sometimes, and, you know, you've seen our movie, right? Because it's like, they star, they do everything.
Starting point is 03:58:05 They built the sets. They acted most of the, there's plenty of paid actors that are there. So their movie was inherently a bit tongue in cheek. Yeah, it looks like one of those cheap, like Corman sci-fi movies called like The Beast from Planet 7 or something. that. Space cop is the name. And Rich Evans, the chubbier of the group is the space cop. And there's lots of like detective show like tropes where it's like, get in here. Space cop, you're in big trouble. You crashed into your spaceship into the building and cost a million space bucks worth of damage. You're on thin ice. There's lots of that. But he's driving a Crown Vic with like
Starting point is 03:58:51 space fins on it with like CGI to make it look like he's flying through space and stuff so like it's very silly and meant to look very yeah they did the best they could yep but yeah I would love to have any of them as a guest that would that would be awesome
Starting point is 03:59:07 I'm big fan I need to watch more of their stuff I'm not I need to get you into the Warhammer shit oh I know we're getting toward the end once the RTS comes out like I'm going to play that with you there's also a CRPG that's about to come out like games workshop has licensed to that shit to some good developers and there's three or four Warhammer like things coming out just around the corner in the next year or two like there's lots of games
Starting point is 03:59:32 what's a CRPG is that a top down computer role playing game and it's sort of that top down um viewpoint where you like click where you want your characters to run to and stuff like that like balder is that what that is i've tried then they're just really like balder but different yeah i i feel you when i first played balder's gate I quit after about an hour and a half and didn't come back to it for maybe two or three weeks because I was annoyed with that top down movement stuff. But when you get better at the movement and controlling the camera, there's a lot of scrolling in to like zoom and like swing your camera in. And you kind of like you kind of try to operate the camera as if you're making a movie for yourself and you're able to. I ended up liking it.
Starting point is 04:00:15 I got over that and I liked it. But what I wanted to talk about was Fallout, Season 2, Episode 1 came out either last night or the night before. Oh, I didn't know. It's out. They're doing a weekly episode drops. But Episode 1, Season 2 is out. For all the Fallout New Vegas fans,
Starting point is 04:00:35 it's just nostalgia fucking central. I was watching with a big smile. As they were going from one point of interest that I know from the game to another, I'm just like I'm looking at my girlfriend like you don't even know I don't know but I like the I've never played well I played the game for like 45 minutes but I'm down I like the first season it was really good this one is um I like I like the first episode a lot I didn't feel like there was any
Starting point is 04:01:05 step down in quality or comedy or content um they without any spoilers you immediately get like some fallout New Vegas, like, um, big iron on his hip, like music while the ghoul just goes through a slow motion montage of murdering people. Like, you immediately get your candy, like, like, in the opening scene or something like that. And then, you know, like I said, because I love New Vegas, every step of the way through the desert to the points of interest. And then, of course, it has the flashbacks to the world before the war. And I like that stuff too, because that's, you're going back and forth between the ghoul's, you know, former life is Walton Goggins and, you know,
Starting point is 04:01:48 I'll have to check that out. Plurvis has been a total disappointment for me. You said. I don't even know how that show can salvage, like how much I've invested in it so far. What do we, seven episodes in? Seven hours that I could sum up in three and a half minutes. Try dairy.
Starting point is 04:02:06 I think you'd like it. D-E-R-R-R-Y. It's a Stephen King, like, adaptation with kids and the evil clown that's trying to kill them and stuff. And the Air Force is there. This is the prequel to the original story that King wrote because the monster comes in 35 years cycles roughly. And so you get all this backstory lore about how it crashed to Earth.
Starting point is 04:02:27 The Air Force is there because they want to use the monster against the Soviets. And they've got like an Air Force pilot who can't feel fear because of an accident he had. So they're working that angle. And then the child actors for once are all really fucking good. Where's Derry? Derry Maine. No, like a... HBO. That's something going for.
Starting point is 04:02:45 Yeah. Okay. And then a little funny thing that I didn't notice my fucking girlfriend did. You can't imagine how mad this may be that she noticed and I didn't. The character in the shining, the old black man who's like, hey there, Doc, want some ice cream? You shine. Some people shine. I can see the future except for anything to do with axes. That's a huge blind spot. Don't tell your daddy. Don't tell your daddy.
Starting point is 04:03:12 about my fire axe blind spot in my in my fortune telling um he's in this he's in dairy as a young man um like i call it a 35 40 year old man um because this is in like the the 60s or whatever it is neat how the king universes are so connected oh it's all yeah yeah without without doing it's all just shit in main it's all just a bunch of stuff happening in main like you've got like You've got some, like, tent poles, right? So, like, there's the Castle Rock, what's the Shawshank? So Shawshank Prison exists in all of his stories. If they're going to meant, oh, you better be good.
Starting point is 04:03:49 You get sent to Shawshank. Like, even in this dairy show, they're like, you get sent to Shawshank, boy. Last fish didn't make it a week. And you're like, fuck, I believe him. I've seen what, I've seen Shawshank before. And so without doing what, like, the Avengers do, where we carefully weave in all this stuff together. He just all exists in the same universe. Up in
Starting point is 04:04:11 Maine, getting spooky. In Stephen King's universe, Maine is a horrid place. Yeah, and that's explained a little bit by the the dairy thing is part of why it is so fucked. It is the reason why a lot of his stories are fucked because
Starting point is 04:04:27 in 112263 I think the father who goes crazy and murders his whole family, I think that was in dairy too. I'm almost positive it was. And that's being caused by it, by the monster from it, and the psychoactive field of like evil hate and fear that he produces that makes people the worst versions of themselves if they're weakened to it. What was the, and maybe this wasn't even Stephen King, I'm misremembering, but that Netflix
Starting point is 04:04:55 movie like 1912 or 19. Stephen King. Yeah. Is it 1912? Is that right? Is it something else? It's either 1912 or 1920. Where it's like the dirt farmer and his son with.
Starting point is 04:05:07 the wife and all that was excellent my wife wants to fill a land but i don't have it boy we're never getting rid of his land like he talked weird yeah that was a really good one i liked that movie it made me sad thomas thomas jane that's that actor's name he doesn't normally sound like that no yeah that one's pretty good guy guy kills his wife and then he's haunted by her thereafter and just going insane i mostly feel bad for their son he has a tough time in that one it The two Stephen King things I always recommend is 1122.62.63 first if you're reading. That's my favorite book of his of all time. It and the stand are both very good novels and they're incredibly long if you need to kill a ton of time. But Mr. Mercedes is my favorite by far. Mr. Mercedes is a down-to-earth detective story about a retired detective who never solved the case of this guy who stole a Mercedes and crushed a giant crowd of people. he killed like 15 or 20 people or something then got away with it
Starting point is 04:06:11 and then this old detective is literally thinking about killing himself in his retirement fat, slovenly alcoholic and he gets an email and it's the killer wearing a mask taunting him and the killer is trying to push him to kill himself that's the purpose of this email he's outside you find out later on
Starting point is 04:06:27 with binoculars like oh this is going to push him over the edge he'll finally kill himself but it does the opposite detective is like pours out his liquor fucking straightens his belt up and he's like that's it that's it and then the rest of the story
Starting point is 04:06:42 is him trying to get this motherfucker who is basically like a Jeffrey Dahmer like evil he is evil like he's not just a bad guy he wants to he runs like an ice cream truck or something
Starting point is 04:06:57 is one of his is like his spare gig and he's like I could poison the little ninja girl she'd be dead I'd be long gone before anyone he'd even thought that it was the ice cream dirty little ninja and it's like that's that's the main character's little sister she's wonderful don't you call her that don't you call her a dirty little ninja like he wants to fuck his mom like like he's always thinking about fucking his mom and he has this weird relationship with her Stephen king uses that trip I would I would say too much
Starting point is 04:07:28 mr. Mercedes uh highly recommend mr. says yeah I aren't do you ever read the yeah let's wrap Oh, no, they're going to be mad at me. All right, let's look. Taylor had a thing. Yeah, Taylor was about to say the best thing, but Woody ended it. PKK, 783. It was a gay way.

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