Painkiller Already - PKA 786 W/ Hutch: Trump Derangement Goes Both Ways

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

P.A. 76 for their guest, Hutch. Taylor. This episode of PKK is brought to you by Lock and Load, our merchandise in Blue Chew. Hutch, good to see you, looking good. What's Cracking, boys? How's everybody doing? Great. Had an awesome holiday season. Got the greatest Christmas gift perhaps in my life.

Like, I'm living the dream right now. I'm a smokemeister now. It's all I do. Life of Riley. Smoke things. Did you get a hookah? What'd you get? Oh, no, not a smoke it off.

A traker. A trager. I'm not some hippie. Wait, what is that? A big, a traker grill. It's like a smoker grill. Oh. It's like brisket and ribs and shit. All I've been doing is like planning the next meal. I want to see a picture of it. Can you tell Zach the model name or something? Oh. It's like the Trigger 575 pro or something. We have the same one. Trigger five. It's like electric. You can do it all from your phone if you want. I never set up the phone part because that.

That felt over the top lazy. I'll go out there and like check. But it's like idiot proof. You genuinely would have to fall asleep for seven hours to mess up a smoking recipe. Yeah. So that that hopper on the right is full of pellets. So you can put like hickory pellets or applewood or whatever you want. And then the meat obviously in the in the body.

I don't know why. I always assumed Kyle set his up in the kitchen. Oh, my God. That's the winds of redemption. method. I'm blaming it on the sickness. I should. Wait, hud. Or maybe I'm misremembering. You at one point, you're like a big cook. You're really into cooking, right? Not like a big cook, but I definitely enjoy cooking. And I didn't discover that until I was like 30. But yeah. Do you have a grill? And I guess not a grill. We don't have a grill. No, we live in like a townhouse. So there's not really like

a backyard area. But if I, if I had one, I would for sure invest in something like this. How, how, so like, how long do you smoke these meats for? Are you getting like really thick cuts? Is it like 10 hours? It depends on the meat. So like ribs take six, five to six hours. A whole chicken takes like maybe two hours, three hours, depending on what temperature.

I've been doing pork tenderloins wrapped in bacon. Zach, I sent you a photo of if you could show my delicious pork tenderloin wrapped in bacon. I was really impressed. It's incredibly good. So port tenderloins are basically free. They're like $2 each for like a pound and a half, two pound pork tenderloin. And then bacon is, again, like three or four dollars. So you create this like really delicious meal.

It's as good as any filet mignon I've ever had. Maybe not that good, but it's close. Like the fact that each plate of the stuff costs like 60 cents. And, you know, the equivalent of filet mignon would cost me $100. It's not as close. Oh, yeah. I got my fondant potatoes. I got my chicken sausage.

I got my port tenderloin wrapped with the bacon. You can see the bacon weave. We have similar plates and I like the flat in the middle, nice tall ridge at the end. That's what a plate should be. Yeah, the bigger version of that one

has a really tall rim. I don't know what Zach's trying to do that. You need that. Otherwise, if you eat in the bed like I would never, I get breakfast in bed every day. I need a plate with a little lip on the edge. Otherwise, I'd likely pour something on myself. I got so stoned like a week ago.

I brought two bulls into bed when I was sitting there watching Top Gear and I cracked peanuts out of the shell and ate them in bed. I was covered in nonsense. Magister had all the had all a bunch of like peanuts. It has a pear. So you're shirtless cracking peanuts. Putting debris. That's terrific.

I was like, oh, man, life is. great sometimes. I got like six empty bottles of Sprite Zero next to me, ice cold. So I actually got the greatest Christmas present I ever got as well. That's coincidental. What happened on the same year? Could you want me to show you guys? I can show you. Yeah. Yeah. What is YouTube TOS for showing firearms? Are you good? I think you're fine. So you can't do it on stream. Get yourself. All right. I think Twitter doesn't let you. I'm officially a firearm owner. And oh, this is your first gun. This is my first gun that I've owned. My dad got me an anaconda. Oh yeah! That is sick. We got the

80s. Holy smokes. Yeah. It is a zero to 60 gun. It is probably the most zero to 60 you could have gone. Well, I'm sure there's other guns. You're just looking at it has risen my testosterone level. I love that gun. So those who are audio only. Hutch has a gigantic revolver. It is the eight inch. It's the eight inch. It's the eight inch barrel. It's the newer model. So I think they came out with the newer one. It was in 2021. They used to have an old line of anacondos and then they made an updated model. My dad had one,

or he has one, and I visited him like a couple of months ago. And I just started joking with him like, hey, you should give me your gun. So like if you guys ever get in trouble, call me and I'll drive over there and protect you or something like that. And it was like a running joke. And then he hit me up shortly before Christmas and, you know, asked me for the information to for an FFF. deal or whatever and you just fucking got it for me so what is the caliber it's 44 magnum so like okay that's my guess special 44 magnum and then there's another i don't know you guys are better about ammo than i am but um yeah i took it to the range like a couple of weeks ago and i fired it for the first time and i didn't realize it at the time but i was kind of firing the like the little

boy bullets like the not not 44 special but not um not like the highest grain of 44 magnum yeah and so I was like, this isn't that bad. You guys were saying the recoil was crazy. And I was like, maybe I'm just a natural. And then I went a couple of days ago. And I fired the big boy bullets. 240 grain, maybe. Whatever it was, it was like twice as powerful.

Maybe you can actually give me tips on this. So like, this is my trigger finger, right? And what was happening was when I was firing, the recoil was so strong that the trigger guard was scraping the side of my finger. It hurt like a motherfucker. Wow. I'd wear a glove. you know you just like gloves it's just a really powerful handgun i i wouldn't shoot 240 grain bullets unless i was going to kill a deer um if i remember correctly you can load it with 180

grain bullets but like you said 44 special works in there and that's a nice medium load it's a lot similar to how a 357 magum you can put 38 specials in there and suddenly you've got a really nice way to target shoot and then you put your big boy ammo in there for like self-defense or hunting or whatever you're doing for well for not for Home defense because I was told the bullets are so powerful to go through the walls and maybe hit your neighbor or something. It's true about all of your bullets, though. Like any gun that's powerful enough to deal with a home intruder is also powerful enough to go through the wall to some extent. Is the 44 special? Would that go through somebody's body and then like pierce a wall?

Depends where you hit him in the body? Like, yeah, but yeah, it could. It absolutely could. So you're not going to hit every shot. It probably won. Like, you know how rare collaterals were in called duty. Like, I do. I do.

Yeah, I did. Never had a trouble. one off in the middle of the night when everybody should be asleep, I would focus on just killing the bad guy. Yeah. But the cars fall where they may. This is such an awesome gun. That is, I got to say, this is way cooler than the gun I thought you were going to show for a first, because it's such not a first. No, it's not.

No, well, I was going to get, I was going to get, um, like a probably like a Glock. Everyone says the Glock is super reliable. I don't know what you guys use for handguns. But I was, I was already getting serious about getting a gun. And then this ended up just being kind of an accident that this was the first gun. So I'm, I'm going to get a, obviously, like, more. compact pistol that's more practical for home defense but it's beautiful it's a shot a beautiful beautiful gun like I saw my dad showed it to me I was like oh my

god this is the coolest thing ever and I always love those revolvers in the cod games too like I always love like the magnums and cut in a model war for two and so felt every appropriate felt right for first for your next gun obviously get whatever you know suits your fancy but what I like your guns that are different if your next gun was another revolver it'd be like how you gotta get two of the same thing even though they're not exact matches. But if your next gun was like a rifle that was pretty good out to 100 or 300 meters, then that's like a different kind of shooting you get to enjoy. So I would pick North War's

shotgun. You know, it was very different than what you have now. I would get something that fits a different category. Yeah, no, I'm going to get a, I'm going to get a semi-auto pistol. So like, but everybody tells me Glock is the most reliable. What do you, what do you guys own for your semis? I don't have a Glock, but everybody, all my friends who have Glock, say that like they're awesome and that they are reliable and they even like fuck around not cleaning it sometimes for a long time it works fine and then but it's boring like it's not exciting it's like uh it's like a honda it's like it's gonna do the job i like you can you can say that they're reliable all you want but if you've watched them in action as much as i have you see that they fail probably 15%

of the time on with police officers like every time you i watch an enormous amount of police activity videos. I've seen everything they've ever uploaded hundreds and hundreds of police shootings. And I've become an observer taught expert in police tactics and what happens. And when they pull that Glock out, I guess it's not clean.

And what happens is a layer of dust gets on the slide and then maybe some oil and then another layer of dust. And they've sort of cemented the gun shut because it's been sitting there unused, uncleaned and unlubricated for so long. And when they fire, the first shot of course goes off, but it takes too much resistance for the slide to come all the way to the rear, grab and eject the spent round, grab the new round, and push it forward and lock it into

battery because of the wear, the, or the non-lubrication, all that stuff is compounding together to make it not, the spring basically win the fight in reciprocation. So they're gun jams. Like they're in a fight for their life and it's like pop, pop, pop, pop. And now they're having to like work on their guns now they're having to cycle another round in or clear a a round that's stuck halfway in the chamber um any gun it's funny it's funny you say that because my dad is a retired cop and i was asking him which which kind of pistol should i get he's like anything but gluck i was like why and he said that all of his cop buddies back back in the day like 20 years ago said that they weren't reliable he said he had somebody who like the gun got too hot on a hot day and so it jammed up

or something like that. And so I was like, dad, I think they probably made updates to the model of the gun in the last 20 years. Because when I look it up online, it seems like online it has a reputation of being super reliable. Yeah. It's like a BMW. If you if you don't change the oil for 15,000 miles, that German engineered driving machine is going to start having hiccups and having issues. But if you maintain it, it's one of the finest engines on the road. The same is true for the Glock. You can add a few. It's a lot like a Honda Civic the way you can add little accessories here and there and tweak it and make it your own. You can make that thing look really wacky and wild with stippling and new slides and anodizing and laser etching and all sorts of optics and

iron sights and triggers, FRT triggers now. You can do lots to that thing. But if you've got to stock Glock like cops do and you don't maintain it, I just see them, I see them, I see them, them all the time like all the time so i have a smith or west and m mnp that i like a lot but it's not what i'd actually reckon m mn p military and police military military and police yeah smithwest mn p um i like it a lot it's really comfortable in my hand but my actual suggestion is not to copy me but to copy what i did which is go to a gun rental place and for five dollars you can try guns for me after the second one once they realized I was trying guns to buy they let me shoot like six seven different pistols that day so I could find the one that tickled my fancy and I brought that one home

that would be a John the John Wigg gun looks fucking awesome too those at the H&K is that what it's called the HK something earlier he's they start with one I he shoots a lot of guns but that he starts with an H&K that's the same company that makes like MP5s and stuff that's the German company heckler and coke um but he just like a lot of And they're also really tricked out. Gun stores with gun ranges almost always have used guns that you can go rent for really low prices. And then you can see if the H&K you walked in liking you walk out with. You mean rent it at a lane on the range?

You mean? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's normal. Like they often do that. And the prices are cheap. So like if you spend $15, $20 trying different guns, it'll make sure that the $800 gun you bought is the right one. Yeah. Kyle, this link that I sent, the Springfield, a friend of mine just got one of these, I think, from his wife for Christmas.

He loves it so far. Do you like Springfield handguns? This is a Hellcat Pro OSP 9mm. I have no experience with it, but it's one of those things like it'll be fine. Like it'll be fun. The real test is what Woody said, like put it in your hand and shoot it. And to me, pistols give a different like recoil impulse, sort of a vibratory impact. into your palm, they all feel different when they go off. Some of them feel kind of solid and sweet and funky, and some of them feel sharp and painful, like a belt slapping your palm or something like that. Some of them feel hollow and kind of off-putting, you know, like, I know that's a little thing, but it's how the gun literally feels when you shoot it. And that to me was always just as much as of as much importance as reliability. Because if you keep a gun clean, it's,

It might have a little, if it's unreliable, like you can make it reliable, like almost all decent guns. Like if you get down into like the $200 pistols and stuff like that, I can't vouch for them. If you're getting a name brand gun, they're all reliable. That gun I linked there is what I would get if I was allowed to own a pistol. That'd be my next pistol. That's a Cicado 2011. The angle of the grip to the barrel is not the same on every gun. So some are closer to 90 degrees and some are more of an obtuse.

angle. And you can just hold different guns and see what fits your hand. Yeah, it's, it's your, you know, naturally. Where you need to hold your hand is going to be different to, to get the sights lined up for you back here. That's why I don't think blocks are bad, but they're bad for me, because the grip, the angle to the grip is not what fits my experience. I actually have so many questions, but I don't know if it's going to bore your questions, but how's the gun guy? I put, you can So they designed this model, the newer model, excuse me, that you can put a rail on it and a red dot. Is that like just crazy overkill? No. Like if you showed up in a range like that, would people see that person and be like, who the fuck is this asshole? Or would they be

no, absolutely not. No, that's, that's, uh, so what you're, when you go overboard, that's usually referred to as tacta cool. Yeah. When you've taken your AR 15 and put so much dumb shit on it and you're not a fucking Delta Force operator, this is perfectly acceptable. Like this a badass pistol. Is that a Glock? That's a Glock. Yeah. So this is what I was talking about earlier, an example of taking a Glock and making it a really good gun. Like, they've stippled it, they've put a trigger on it. That's a whole new custom slide. I'm sure that's a custom barrel. Like the inner work, they basically, everything has been replaced here. Whatever that style of stippling is, is so nice to hold and so aesthetically ugly. It's called Stippling. The Stippling.

The stippling, yeah, I hate the way it looks. The colors are pretty kind of jarring. Yeah, this is like any color you wanted. You could do this is garish. Hutch would have a more tactful gun. What would your- Piece of advice I would give Hutch. With every gun, I buy a holster.

And that gun lives in its holster. Because if you don't have a holster, then you're grabbing into maybe it's a gun safe in the dark and you could grab the trigger. When I go to the range, I have like a gym bag full. of guns and I don't want loose guns in there where I'm grabbing triggers or whatever like by accident so that gun lives in its holster and it serves as kind of a trigger guard so that you don't

accidentally grab it wrong and if you're not going to you don't you would need like a comically large holster for this guy it's a shoulder hole you need for that is that right yeah because it's 13 inches from the back of the grip to the front of the barrel it's 13 inches Have you seen tax driver? You're got in particular. Exactly. If you're going to grab it from a nightstand in the dark, I like it in a holster.

Because some other day you're going to be grabbing lube or ibuprofen or something. And you know, you might be getting your gun by accident. Oh, God. I didn't hit your titty, did I? I keep it in a safe in my office. I don't keep it in the bedroom. Like I'm not so concerned about like a breaking.

entering where I live. I'm more got it because we had like a couple situations in Los Angeles in the last few couple years where I was like it's fucking society you're going to collapse in the next 24 hours like the fires and then some other stuff too and I just wanted that option to be able to like yeah. What about a shotgun? Have you considered a shotgun like that? I feel like that's such a good first gun to get because it's so versatile.

It's it's the easiest to learn. Shooting a long gun is easier than a handgun. Like everybody like because I grew up and like on my grandparents farm we'd shoot rifles and shotguns all the time handguns very rarely. And I remember over the first few times like I did shoot handguns. I had this fantasy where I'm like I'm fucking fine with a rifle and shotgun. Like I bet I'll be like the same fantasy you have the first time you go paintballing at like a real course when you're 10 and you're like I'm going to pop around and go pop pop pop. But then like no some 27 year old's going to wreck you like you're a child. That's how it is. Like you start shooting a handgun for the first time and you can't hit the broad side of a barn. And you're like consistently compared to like skeet shooting is what I did so much growing up I love skeet I don't know if in Cali there's a lot of room for that um there's clay shooting actually pretty close to me but um but I wanted to pick up I wanted to pick up like marksmanship with the pistol is like a hobby this year too it's more than just a fence like I do you know I am trying to take it like someone serious I

spent like so much time watching YouTube videos and learning like the Isosceles stance and you know like pushing forward with your shooting hand and pulling back with your support like all that stuff is like it's it's I I'm learning all this new stuff and it's not like second nature yet. I like the weaver stance better. Is that the one where you're like leaning on your, your, your, your shooting arm? It's the one where you're, so I sawsley is your,

your feet are sort of parallel and you shift them more forward like a baseball stance like you're throwing with your left foot forward if you're right-handed and your, your rear foot to the rear and that's the weaver when you, when you, when your feet are not parallel you mean? Yeah, yeah, one foot's more forward than they're. the other. I didn't know that's what it was called. That's the only way I know how to shoot handguns. That one where like your feet are like next to them like like competition. That feels so weird to me. That's the one that I've been trying and it feels a little weird with this gun.

Then try the other one. It's going to feel weird because that gun's so heavy. Like that's the advantage of the weaver stance. You've got that foot forward and you're spreading your weight out, you know, lengthwise with the gun. That's a heavy gun. It's very heavy. You should know. When I first started shooting, I bought coaching. And that was a really good experience for me. Like I didn't even know how to put bullets in a magazine at the time. And, you know, he just, he had me take a test beforehand just so they could tell, like, it wasn't a past fail.

They just wanted to know what they were working with. Like, I took a written test. And when I was new, I didn't come from a gun family. And he taught me how to load it. He taught me all sorts of like safety stuff. That was huge. one thing in in gun culture if you don't hit the target every time people don't i mean ideally you do but like you know things happen if you're unsafe to be around you're a dork like that's the bad thing right

someone who doesn't always have it pointed down range yeah um you know it's stressful if you want to like just be welcomed into gun culture then you'd be a safe treat it like a lightsaber like i i always treated it like a lightsaber that was 40 feet long, 500 feet long coming out of the end of that barrel. And if you ever cut somebody with your imaginary lightsaber, even if it's a car going down the road next to the range, you fucked up. Yeah, you probably scared somebody and they're just afraid to tell you because you have a gun. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure you've done or dealt with this way more than me, but have you ever gone out shooting with like a group and there's someone new? and like everyone's excited because you're going to go shoot clays or whatever like go target shooting or

whatever like so the the vibe is like a party like it's exciting you're going to go do all this fun stuff and someone who isn't familiar with guns takes that to mean that it's like a light activity and they're like like sweeping people unthinking like you're like just calm down like oh it's fine I'm not going to shoot it's like no but like that you don't really get it the fun's over when you start behaving that way because now I can't trust myself to have fun because I know your lunatic ass is like sweeping people. The only time I've ever been around like amateurs who would do something like that was when we did that reality show with Hex and Astro and White Boy and X-Jaws and everybody.

And I was, I guess, range, I was. I was range master. And there was like a day or there was one day before we started shooting and filming, I should say. So you know the difference where we shot. And it was and we went through with everybody like how this would work. And I built, we use them a lot in sporting clays and in five stand sporting clays and even in like skeet. You basically build a doorway, like the frame of a doorway, but there's no door hung in it. So you can imagine this vertical rectangle that's just two by fours with legs so that they stand still.

And you step into that, your barrel goes through it. And it never, the barrel can never come back out of the rectangle. And I always, I, the main thing I told them is like, If there's ever a malfunction, if you ever feel scared, if you burn your hand, if a, if powder goes in your eye, if a bullet comes out, goes down the shirt and burn your dick. Don't know. Get around as fast as you can. No, put the gun down with the barrel pointed that way. Drop it if you have to.

These are all my guns. I don't fucking care. Throw them on the ground pointed that way. Just get them down and away. And then we'll handle your problem because you're a walking death machine. You're holding a fucking third. It was a 308 semi-auto like you have in your hands. Like you could destroy us all if you wanted to.

Please don't. Yeah, it's a stressful because I've shopped guns before. I've been around guns my whole life because my dad was a cop again. And so he's just like, he had a little trigger lock on it. But it was just always there. And yeah, going to the range the first time was super stressful because I didn't want to be that fucking guy. Yeah. Like it's all just like second nature for you guys.

But for me, I have to make this effort to like, okay, even when I open the box, make sure that like the barrel is pointed down range when I do that. Yes. The fact you're worried about those things means you're doing fine. It's a fucking awesome responsibility to hold something that can just like end someone's life. And so like maybe that wears off after a time. But every time I pick up a gun, I'm always like it's just a different. That one you mentioned is huge.

Like I unsit my bag and I look at where the guns are pointing because you don't know until you see them. And then I spin the bag around and I remove the gun so it's pointed down range. I put a little piece of tape. I put a little piece of tape on the gunbox, like a black electrical tape, and that's the side of the barrels on. So, yeah. Yeah.

And when I see someone else doing that, like looking inside, spinning it around, making sure that the gun points the right way the whole time. I'm like, all right, that guy, check mark. He's good. Yeah, I won't be killed by him today.

Right. You think you want to get in the kind of? When the range warden or gun, I forget what they're called, the umpire yells at someone for doing something unsafed, that guy is stained for the rest of the day. Everyone is like, oh,

that's the guy they got to talk to. They'll remove. I can imagine. The ones I saw were ashamed. Ranged masters. They are called range masters. Every one of them. Any case.

Yeah, they shame people for being unsafe. And that doesn't go away. It doesn't go away when they stopped talking to you. I remember. Like, I never saw it growing up. Old blue shoes.

You were the dangerous one when you see him in the store later. I've only seen it online. I think it's a symptom of stupidity. It's not just, it's not ignorance. Because ignorant people wouldn't touch it. They'd be scared. It's stupid. They would ask for help. It's stupid people that barrel sweep. I never saw anybody do it growing up. Like I hunted with my dad's buddies and went to the sporting clays range and everybody's just super, super safe. Barrels always at the ground, you know, like guns are always unloaded with the breach showing. You turn it sideways so they can see the breeches showing because we're holding them actively when we're hunting. We're holding them actively when we're hunting. It's not, it's a little different to being in the range. Like we're going to be spinning around 360 degrees and looking around and like we've all got death machines in our hands, whether it's shotguns or rifles. Bird hunting in particular. Like I would go to a range or like casual shooting with a novice shooter all day. Like as long as it's someone I trust or a friend vouched for them, they're not retarded.

Like, but something like a real activity like bird hunting, you cannot risk going bird hunting with someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. That's going pheasant hunting is more. more like going on a patrol in Vietnam than it is going to a shooting range. We're all walking together hunting a target that's going to suddenly fly up and need to be reacted to and shot quickly. So if you don't have that little thing in your brain that goes like, Taylor's off to my left, birds aren't worth shooting Taylor. That would really ruin the day if we killed someone.

Don't be more about the bird. It's a big, fat, beautiful bird, okay? I don't know. It's a quail. That's like you dick Cheney somebody. That's that kind of hunting. And that is the objectively hunting as a team.

That's the most fun kind of hunting I've ever done. It's like that line bird hunting. Deer hunting is fun until you kill a couple deer. And then it's like, this is a lot of sitting. This is a lot of doing nothing. Disagree with you there. I love the beauty and quiet of the forest. I am the only sentient being here.

But life has, I got here before the sun came up. climbed 35 feet up into a tree. I'm covered in camouflage and haven't made a fucking peep. I lift my ass cheek to fart. And all of a sudden, the wildlife is waking up. And they're going about their regular business. They're using that trail down below me. The birds are in the trees around me.

There's a squirrel in my tree. We make eye contact. And he's like, we've got a deal up here. Like, it's very cool to be like there as the world wakes up around you and is completely unaware of you. I didn't mind the sitting and waiting. Probably 90% of the time Like I'd kill two deer a week

So that's 20% success rate Because I'm going twice a day Every day It's not even that I'm hunting 14 times I'm getting two deer You know another kind of bird Or kind of hunting

But it's a bird hunting that sucks Is turkey Because even when you get a great shot And you get one It's like It's still a fucking turkey Like I'm not like I'm not stoked on it

Like if I catch a bird big catfish on my grandparents' farm. I'm like, this is, I'm exuberant because my grandma's going to fry this up. It's going to be delicious. Turkey, not exciting. You could have bought a better, cheaper one at the store for free. And I know that's true about all things, but man, turkey hunting. Wild turkeys don't taste. I feel like the people who are enthusiastic about turkey tronting or turkey hunting are propagandist for big Turk. Like, it's, you sit, you basically sit at the base of a tree or in a blind on the ground and doing your stupid turkey calls and hope for a big old gobler

with a big old beard comes around the corner so you can shoot him with a shotgun in the head. It's not hard to do. It's boring. And the prize is a fucking bird that weighs 15 fucking pounds. Actually, we should tell more people to do turkey hunting

because that means there's more of the tasty birds for the rest of us. There's more dove, quail, and pheasant, which are the good tasting bird. And duck. Duck tastes great. Why, guys, why were my grouping

slightly to the left of what I was aiming at, like consistently right to the left. I looked up some stuff online, but then I read that it might be bullshit. Are you right-handed? That gun has adjustable sites. It has what now? Adjustable sights. Move the rear site to the right or the left to compensate. It could be, it's one of two things. It's either the gun isn't set quite perfectly, which is very possible since you're shooting a group that's to the left, or part of your push, pull, trigger squeeze is

the push is winning. Is he pulling too hard from the left? He's pushing too hard and he's pushing the barrel to the left. Maybe and during the bang whoosh of the recall, you're not even noticing it. That's also possible. That'll be easier to manage. Because it was consistent.

The same thing Kyle did, which means he's wrong. It was consistent. Like there were multiple groupings, like six different groupings that were right to me. you're consistent about the way you fire the gun or the gun is set incorrectly. I would it's easier to change the sights than your shooting style. I'll let my dad figure out if the sights are on it. I'm gonna go out yeah let him shoot and that's what I was gonna say you let another

competent shooter operated and if you see the same thing then you've you've done a little bit of science and you've proven your hypothesis. Yeah he's he's a he's a crazy good marksman. Did your dad shoot with you like I just just I just imagined like having a cop as a dad like shooting might be an activity that you guys would do together. Was that not a big thing? He did not. No. Actually, and I asked him like a month ago if it ever occurred to him to like teach us to use firearms and he said no.

But he was he was also working like a lot. Like he worked a lot of overtime. He worked a lot of graveyard shifts. So he was kind of gone a lot of the times when I was younger. Did he work in if he would willing to say? Marin County. He was Santa Fel. Or in California.

I don't know it. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's near San Francisco. Pretty, pretty good. Was that stressful as a kid? Like, did you often, like, was it so normal you didn't worry? Or were there, like, oftentimes where it's like, oh, my dad's out there dealing with potentially dangerous people.

I'm worried he's not going to come home. I never worried about that with him because he was, like, enormous. My dad, you know, he's kind of shrunk recently because he's gotten older. But he was 6.5, you know, 2.30 really kind of built like a, he's calling me right now, actually. he's a big big big guy and so i just you know i assumed he could take care of himself the only time he ever got hurt that i remember he got in a motorcycle accident and and broke his collarbone but that was it oh he was a motorcycle cop he was at one point and then after that i don't think he was but i would have to see parents age isn't it like for your whole childhood they're just

incredibly old but not aging of course and then like as you hit adulthood and stuff you're like God, damn, they are older than they used to be. Last time I talked to my father, this was new, maybe a week ago. He uses a tool for deaf people now. So when I talk, it translates it to text so he can hear me. His hearing is not very good. And he always denied hearing loss until now. He's like, well, I can still hear.

I just prefer to read your words. He's just putting the captions on the phone call. That's all. yeah it's I'm noticing that I mean I've noticed it for a while but like even with my dad being in his 60s now it's like

you're like you're like kind of an old man like there's not a single dark hair on your head not even one like it's just silver everywhere just the face is all it's just it's weird it's trippy it's definitely trippy yeah yeah

dad's definitely gone mostly white now whether they're silver with his hair it was always it was salt and pepper even when he was like early 40s though but he stays active i was talked to him the other day and he's like well my knees are hurting i'm like what'd you do he's like well i've been putting in a new new tile floor in the bathrooms you know i mean crawling around that floor about four hours a day that's all i can do now crawling around about four hours a day do my work i'm i couldn't do that i definitely wouldn't do it my dad is not totally immobilized but pretty immobilized these days so he just spends like

10 hours scrolling on his phone. And I mean, he is radicalized, boys. He's getting radical. He needs to pick up like golf or something. My dad's the exact opposite. He doesn't have any social media. He doesn't know anything that's going on unless like he sees it like in passing on TV. But like in his basement, he just set up a golf simulator, which is like a 10 foot by 10 foot

big like thing with a display. And you have like these machines that measure. how fast the golf ball is going. And you can, like, that's what he's all about now, where he's like, it's awesome. I got it all set up. Boys, I can even, I can play any course. I can play courses in Scotland. Do you know that?

I can download any course on this iPad. Literally, I went over there and he was like, the only bad thing about this is that the plug to make the iPad operate it, it takes up where it charges. And so I have to, like, charge it up. And then I can only play for a couple hours and then it dies. and I have to unplug it and I was like, we could like, I'm on Amazon right now. I'm ordering you a USBC dongle. Like, like you can do these at the same time.

And he's like, really? My God. What a world we live in, Taylor. Yeah, my dad probably spends more time on. I assume he's red, not blue. Super red. Yeah. Have you got your dad on the testosterone?

He's a top. Huh? Have you gotten your dad on the testosterone, Taylor? No, I haven't. I haven't told him to get on. tea or anything. I don't think he doesn't seem like a weak, weak old man, like low tea or anything. I mean, if you're in your 60s, you're going to have low tea, but he doesn't seem infebled or anything. Because it happens so slowly and gradually, you know, the course of 40 years,

I got my dad on the tea. I got him on Ozempic. I got him a treadmill to watch his stories. I got him watching cable stories now, like not gun smoke from 1957. Like, he's watching Vikings now. He's like, I can only watch like two or three episodes. It's gruesome, Kyle. gruesome the obesity the obesity rates in the US have declined for the first time in years because yeah p ones it's crazy because like there's this insane culture i don't know if it's irl but there's definitely this insane culture online where people are so judgmental of people who take ozempic they like call it cheating or something like that it's like bro we we have this pill that is evidently like pretty fucking safe that basically

cures obesity and people get sassy about it. It's the crazy thing. They'll be like, you don't even know the long-term effects. Well, it's like, yeah, but we know the long-term effects of you not doing this, which is like dying of diabetes. So let's you know, if you have tummy issues later, that probably is the better option. Especially for old people.

Especially if you're 60 years old plus or something. Like my dad's 72. I don't think the effects of his OZMPIC are going to kick in any time in the next 20 or 30 years. Have you guys seen Amy Schumer lately? Oh, is she looking skinny? Good for her.

In my honest opinion, from the neck up, she's just not pretty to me. But from the neck down, dude, for 44, she's like top 1%. Okay. Good for her. Ozzyc seems like a huge boon for the country, unironically. It's good. All those fat pop stars got skinny. Like Adele and there's a blonde one whose name I can't come up with,

but they all got skinny. and it was a massive upgrade. Could you show my link? Because I have her in a bikini. She looks photoshopped in that picture. She really does. It looks like the stairs from my house when I was little. Maybe it is.

Maybe she's in Royston, Georgia. So again, I don't think her face is pretty, like not to me. But just neck down and I grade on an age curve. It's easy to be hot at 24. But she's 44. At 44 neck down, she's 24. Good for her. Good for her for losing the weight.

Okay, a good 304. You want to talk about something. Where are, where's everybody spazen about Ozempic? Because I don't. Maybe it's my algorithm. I don't see people being like, you're cheating. I see people like trying to cast a, like, the pushback I see is people being like, oh, this is going to cause your stomach to stop working and stomach paralysis and this and that.

And then someone will respond with. like yeah well here's a kind of study on that and it shows it happens to like 1% of people is it is your social media feed like a lot of like anti-farma kind of stuff uh i don't get a lot of pharma stuff no i don't know it's just something i've observed like just it's just a try i see it in my twitch out a lot i i've i've heard you know friends sort of speak about ozempic that way like they'll see some big celebrity obviously you know more than likely on ozemp because they'll have lost a lot of weight and so i've heard people say stuff like that's cheating and I'm like it's it's it's definitely a thing I don't

know have you guys not seen any of that I've seen a little bit I've seen a little bit I just see jealous bitches talking also it's coming out in a pill soon so I one of the reason people are success with ozempic is it's a shot once a week as opposed to like a three times a day pill or something like that I don't know if the pill will be as good or whatever but it was just approved so when you can go from a shot to a pill I that I think that opens doors to people who otherwise wouldn't be interested. It is one of those insulin injectors, like those auto injectors you put on your belly, I think.

So it's as entry level as injections get. Zach, will you show this photo? Because I wanted to talk about glow-ups and Hollywood surgery. How old do you think this man is? How old is this man visually? Like, you probably know roughly how old Brad Pitt is. How old does that man look?

Because I'm going to say that man looks 50. I'm going to say 54. I was going to say 53. I'm right in between you. I think he's 61, right? He's 62. This is the best facelift technology has gotten so good that people don't look like lizards anymore. They just pull 10 years off of you at will.

The guy on the right, he's going to play the next Black Panther. Oh, I'm cool with that. Well, heavily rumored, I suppose. Yeah, he's super ripped. I agree, Kyle. I think part of getting good face lift stuff is only fixing the stuff they fix well. You know, like if your mouth turns down in a certain way, then you can get that Megan Cox stretch your face up.

Yeah, great. Now your wrinkles are gone, but you look terrible in a different unnatural way. His neck is fixed. His eyes are fixed. His forehead, like his cheeks. Like they have taken 10 years off this dude. He was looking much older a couple years ago. That was a fun movie too.

I had to watch it. What movie is this? F1. I thought it was mid. I didn't hate it or did love it. Did you guys watch in theaters? No, I'm sure that would have helped. Oh, okay, yeah.

I saw it on a big old screen. Yeah, I watched, like, Gravity is a good example of a movie that's just not as good at home. It's that Sanford Bullock movie where I watched in 3D IMAX. And it was like, I was like, I was like, reach it out at shit. I was like me and my girlfriend were blown away. We were a little stone still, but but like it was incredible. When they're spinning in space. Do I remember when that movie came out, it was like maybe the heyday of Neil deGrasse Tyson, you know, bitch posting where he'd be like, oh, actually when they were spinning that way, the inertia in space would be different. And it's

like Neil, shut up. It's a movie. We get we know. We get it. It's fine. They also wouldn't have sent like they also wouldn't have sent like two random people up like they're introducing seeing themselves like, hey, what's your name? What do you do? It's like, you're on the international fucking space station together. You know what their name is and what they do. It's like 11 of you. How many people are there?

Kyle. It was the hair. The International Space Station? It was Neil deGrasseus and was bitching about her hair. That's not where they were though. Oh yeah, he was bitching about her hair. What was wrong with their hair? Maybe I'm thinking of interstellar. Her hair just look kind of normal, you know, but in space it's obviously going to go crazy.

Yeah, not mine. I bet mine would be exactly the same. This shit doesn't move. Do you do... One piece did. One piece did. Do you have implants or do you do finasteride or anything? Me? I used to do finasteride. I stopped a while ago. But I

just don't lose hair very easily. There's something. I got blood work done. Something about me ages well. I forget what I have. But when they do my blood work, they're like, oh, you know, Lazarus syndrome. No. I could look at

kept what maybe I could Google it but uh send me a viola your adrenochrome or something are you maybe like 5% Japanese oh that no you're because they because they're like the the gold medalist of agentano Reeves blood those those half Japanese people seem to age super well that's a good half Japanese there's no way he doesn't at least a quarter he's also 62 and they're doing a johnwick five like they're john the last john wick was like three and a half hours long or something. And it was so... Look, I can believe that

John Wick is so good that he can shoot all those people before they can shoot him and that his body armor will absorb what does hit him. I can believe that. But he was fighting in some sort of a Japanese high-rise type

situation. And there was a Japanese woman with a bow and arrow and she was fighting commandos who all had machine guns. And she beat one up with the bow and then she's like shooting the rest like legillus like literally like legillus and then we're introduced to her father who's even more badass except he's blind he's a literal blind ninja hit man who's like almost as good as as john wick and i'm just like come on no he's not no he's

fucking not whenever i see the blind overachieving i just i know they're not really blind first of all or it's a gimmick there was this blind bitch that one one of gordon Ramsey's cooking shows one time. And I'm like, there's no fucking way. There's no fucking way. They're editing around the part where somebody else cooks your shit and slices it for you or something. Or she's a stolen valor blind person.

She can see okay. She's just legally blind and has like crazy glasses. Because there's a lot of blind stolen valor where they're like, I'm blind. And it's like really because you've just fucking made Fettuccini. Doubt it. But that, but that Dragon's Breath scene in that movie was the fucking coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. That was like heavily influenced by a game.

What's it called again? There's a game where it's like a top-down shooter. I don't remember what it's called. But yeah, that whole scene was. Yeah. That was cool. I liked it again. I watched a movie called heads of state recently that has Idris Elba.

Idris Elba is like the president, what do you call it? The prime minister of Great Britain. And John Cena is the president of the United States. And the gimmick is that he's an actor in this universe too, an action. actor who was elected president and so like Idris Elba and John Cena end up like Air Force 1 gets blown up and they parachute out and they have to escape like like go through like they're like a buddy cop like gunfighting like duo it's pretty fucking good it was a it was a good like silly action movie and I hadn't seen one of those in a while did you guys like the um the it's a movie that

came out on Netflix and it was directed by James Cameron's ex-wife who did the hurt locker She's done lots of stuff. Catherine Kennedy. No, not Kennedy. That's the Disney bitch. I don't remember what her name is. But she did one recently where it was like it was imagining if a nuclear warhead was fired at the United States and it's like 15 minutes before it arrives.

It's from different perspectives. You guys didn't watch it. Idriselba was the president in that movie. But it's really good. I haven't seen that. I got got by Netflix. I thought I canceled it like nine months ago because every once in a while I'll re-get Netflix because I'll want to watch all of stuff.

Seinfeld and then I'll watch Seinfeld for like three weeks and then I'll scroll through and be like there's nothing here I really want and I'll cancel it. I paid those fuckers eight months. Never watch a house of dynamite. That's what you're talking about. It's called a house of 90s. I just I like what I like. Taylor's like you know what? Simpson's season two peak entertainment. Seinfeld like you did signfeld rules. They make them all the time. Yeah but the old shows are better for the most part. Like I just like them more. Too much now.

Like it's it. The business of streaming, it feels like ruins it because I'm going to fuck a lot of this up. I was reading this like in-depth analysis of how they make money and how the end point of it was like they are more incentivized to like blow it out of the water with the first season of a show and then rely on just people hoping it gets back to that and then start other shows in the meantime where they try and hit it out of the park on season one where there's less incentive to have a. Ozark style show now that's just bang or start to finish there's there's a there's um yeah the streaming stuff is uh the acquisition the acquisition of um warner brothers by Netflix is fucking insane oh it's awful they're they're they're gonna they talked openly about like a 17 day window yep for theaters which is nuts like I don't know how they're why is it really oh I mean like there's a lot of filmmakers that don't want to um

like, Nolan, I feel like, is leading the effort against that kind of stuff and he's all about preserving theater experience. Problem is right now is like people got way too used to streaming stuff. Like there's a part of me that's like, all right, listen, just like the market does what it does. And if people want to watch stuff at home, it is what it is, you know, that there's like a part of me that's like that.

But at the same time, you know, I can understand if you're someone like Nolan and you spend all this time and energy making something that's meant to be seen on a big screen, I can understand why he would want to be protective of that. But like, I mean, what her brothers? want me to pay 40 bucks to take my wife to a movie theater. Revenues as well. Think about how he gets paid. He's getting paid on the gross of the film. And I don't care what equation you use to give him a little bit out of the subscriber

like booty pile, but it's never going to be the same. Especially if you're like James Cameron, that new Avatar movie is probably going to make $2 billion again. He makes $2 billion a fucking movie. He doesn't want his shit on your streaming service 17 days later. It's just heating up 17 days later in. Yeah. Yeah.

And like, TVs are the one thing. Why they want me to go to the movie theater and why they want me to pay, you know, 50 bucks for a day out. But from my perspective, it's just not that much better than my home setup. Well, the theater experience,

I don't know where you guys live, but the theater experience where I live is way better. Like, they had to adjust their models after the pandemic. And so the theater down the street from my house and basically every theater in the area replaced all those uncomfortable awful chairs with the, with the cushy ash recliners and so even though the tickets are more expensive like it is nice going to you know fucking iMac showing of dune two and sitting in a recliner so all happy

i'll happily cut it like 25 bucks you know for that's it you know my issue is those recliners are absolutely cuddle proof you can hardly put your arm around your wife in those recliners i think they do it on purpose um and it ruins the movie for me but you're surrounded with snacks and you can hit a button and have wings brought to you he has that already i think did they do that in the theaters where you guys are at or is uh yeah yeah you can like order like real deal you only you only order one burger at a theater before you're like

this is a theater like this isn't they're they made all the seats nice and like reclining and extra wide and cushy like forever ago and like i've always snuck real food into the movies anyway i'll take a chipotle burrito in there with me i don't care so like it's in the end what he's right like i would rather fucking pirate even the movie. Watch it at my house for free. My bathroom is eight

steps away so I can piss twice during this movie if I need to. I don't have to sip my drink sparingly. I can eat popcorn which will make me thirsty and then drink as much like soda as I want because I can get up and piss. But at the movies I'm literally rationing the popcorn because I know it's going to make me thirsty

which will make me drink the drink and I'm sipping the drink like I'm conserving this for a desert like crossing or something like that. I'm just like Maybe I'll just rinse it around in my mouth and put it back in there. So I have to piss at the pivotal moment of like a major movie. And then I get home and I see that moment on Reddit. Everybody's like, can you believe? What if you had the piss when like Captain America picks up the fucking Muley or something like that?

You just didn't get to see that moment. I did that. I did that with fucking Spider-Man. I came back into the theater and Andrew Garfield had already portled in. I was like, right when I walked in. I walked in. I was like, what the fuck? Because I didn't know.

I didn't know at that point that it was confirmed that he was in there. It's like, oh my God. The literal worst time to go for that movie. Yeah, I can remember like getting all the way

to the bottom and like, I'm heading toward the exit door that'll lead me to the hallway where the bathroom is, but I'm standing there watching the movie still from that vantage point because I'm looking for the boring start to begin,

for them to go back to that other group of characters or something that I don't care about. And now I'm running. I'm just running. I got my top button open. I hate that. Like having to piss during a movie and missing any part of it, even if it's not important.

Like, that is one of the things that keeps me out of theaters. That in the cost, when I can steal it at home. Dude, you can get a 100-inch Samsung TV for like $2,400. TV. It's crazy. TVs are. A hundred inch. Crazy.

Like, can you, like, that would almost be. too much. You'd be like, you can even look at the whole screen. Well, I guess depends how far you're seated. Oleds are still. He's got a hundred pricey. Is there's a hundred fifty? That projection? No, I want to say 109. So everyone

someone close to that. Do you have any idea how close you sit to it and like steps maybe or? I'm going to call it 18 feet, maybe. Something like that. That's pretty close, like six steps. I'm sitting probably

five steps, four steps from that 80. What do we have, Taylor? It's 82 or 80. We have 65 into 65 inch Samsung. No, 75 inch Samsung. 75. Yeah. Okay. That thing's enormous. We have the exact same. I think we

might have the same TV because is it a Q-Led? Yep. Yeah. I think we have the same TV. That's a good TV. It's a solid TV. Yeah. I like it. I'm loyal to Samsung now with TVs. I actually downgraded. I had an 85 inch and then it was just it was just too big because like our living room's spacey enough but we can too big I was just like no how far were you from like

from seeded six or seven feet maybe oh yeah that might be a little there's a subreddit called TV too high TV too high yeah I I I uh the last house we were at had this situation where the living room had very high ceilings I think they were 16 feet or something like that. And it had these big windows at the top and light would shine. It was nice. I had to pay somebody to climb the fucking ladder literally tent them. But anyway, fireplaces in the middle of the room. And then there's this like wooden mantle piece. And then there's more wood that goes all the way to the ceiling. Like the full like 16 feet up or whatever. And so I can mount my TV as high as I want. I could mount it 16 feet high if I wanted to.

And so I've got my couch in place and I'm kind of looking at it. I'm doing this thing. I'm like looking at the wall like this I'm like got it go up there put my little sharpie marks on the wall proceed to miss the stud at least 17 times finally hit it find it get that bitch hammer drilled into the wall

stand back and my girlfriend's like that's way too fucking high I'm like yeah it is way too fucking high and I'm out of breath from like holding half a TV with one hand and drilling for the other I'm like let me catch my breath and we'll go again we go again

that's boomer shit still too fucking high. That's boomer. That's boomer shit. It's because they're always in their fucking like, that's my recliner. It's like dad has his designated recliner. In my

apex house was like this. The living room was constructed as if you were going to put the couch in front of the fireplace and somehow the fireplace would be the center of attention. But it's not. The TV is the center of attention. So then it goes above the fireplace. And now it almost

has to be too high because you got the fireplace. you got some sort of marble thing around it, then you got a little shelf. Do you have a mount that lets you bring it down? That's what I have. So my mount lets me come out. What we did at apex is we organize the furniture in a less than ideal way

and put the couch in front of the fireplace. It wasn't great, but at least the TV wasn't too high. In our current house, we don't have the problem. My last three houses, that's the situation where the fireplace is meant to be the center of the room and there's no other way to move this furniture

to forget feng shui, just functionally. This furniture needs to be this way. And so they've always been above the fireplace. But my mount lets me like twist and pivot enough that I kind of go down and below the fireplace a little bit and get it just right. So you can mount it high in your bedroom too because you're like laying down in your bed. And so you're naturally kind of looking far up. But in the living room, yeah, that entire subreddit is funny as fuck because it's like two dozen examples of this every fucking day.

we have a I don't know what is the piece of furniture call that goes at the foot of a bed is it I don't even know like an ottoman yeah I know what you're talking about it's not called an ottoman but it's

cabinet that goes at the foot of the bed oh when we press the button on the remote control the TV emerges from the cabinet oh yeah it's pretty cool except when the power goes out and then comes back on the TV comes out like as it powers up the TV comes up

If you have anything on there, you know, like you weren't prepared to bring the TV out right now. Toys are falling on the ground. Dishes are taking to dive and trying to suicide. The dog is terrified. We leave it unplugged when we're not using it now. And just in case the power blinks. That's pretty cool. Is it a big TV?

55 inches or something. That's fine. For the foot of the bed, it doesn't need to be that big. Right. Yeah. Far away. I always look at those projectors. And then just decide it's too much.

Like I end up going down the Reddit threads and they're like, well, my bulb lasted for this long. And I'm like, how often am I going to change in these bulbs? What are these bulbs cost? Well, you can get those $120 bulbs, but they won't last for shit. And I was, fuck. I got that issue. Now they have LED projectors.

So the bulbs last like, I don't know, decades, something like that. Okay. We've never replaced ours. But the problem is like, it's not just a projector. Oh, no. Now you need to have surround sound because you can't get your sound from the TV. And then you need to have like an HDMI cable running through the ceiling to your projector, which is opposite like your receiver. You need like a proper screen to get the best image quality.

You're hiring an electrician at this point to wire all the like to pull HDMI cables through the crawl space into the walls and stuff. And like it almost doubles the cost. Like, oh, yeah, the equipment's this much, but times two to get the thing. installed. It also get really hot sometimes. So it was like hot during the summertime. It's not the best.

Yeah. Again, I think you're in the pre-LED tech with the heat. Yeah, I have a projector, but it's like 1080p, but it's like 10 years old or something like that. It was very loud and very hot. And the first apartment we were in didn't have indoor AC, so it would get hot during the summertime. Yeah.

The LED ones are better. Did you see the shooting in Minnesota? from several different angles. Yes. So many different angles. How did, how did you come down on it? What was your, what was your tech? I think it was a bad shooting. I think it was a bad shooting. I think that ICE just seems to hire this architect of what archetype I mean of high school bully, tatted up sleeved arms, man, you know, bandana wearing bullies. And maybe I'm projecting on this, but it's like the guy got disobeyed and started opening fire. It's like you shouldn't be a cop.

I thought it was a good shooting. That lady had been stalking. That lady had been stalking them all day, like following them from like neighborhood to neighborhood. She had turned her car sideways in the middle of the road and obstructed them while they were trying to get some illegals out of the rafters of a house, is what the quote was. And then when they approach her vehicle and say,

stay right here. When she gets lawful orders from a federal agent, she accelerated toward him. I don't care that her wheel was turned to the right. He can't see the wheels. He hears the car accelerate, come toward him, and he

shoots her in the face. Maybe he didn't need to shoot those second two shots into the window. Maybe those aren't good. But the first shot almost certainly killed her as well. And I felt like that one was justified. Yeah. I think we'd both be guessing.

I saw her wave another policeman by this idea that, you know, she was like, I'm structing and whatever. She's waving the SUV by right before the, you know, 15 seconds before the shooting. She didn't seem like some sort of domestic terrorist, which is how Trump is describing her. And I saw one cop waving for her to move her car and another cop telling her to get the F out of the car. So she's getting like mixed, which one said Simon says, you know, which, I mean, they're trying to open. One car is supposed to follow. One cop's trying to open her door and the other cop saying stay right there with his, with his hand in her face. Like those are the ones and

they're speaking to me. I saw the cop waving her, you know, telling her to go. But she's like telling another car to go by. Right. Like she didn't, she, this is a soccer mom. Like, and they opened fire and executed her on the spot. I'll say what. If I had kids waiting at home, I wouldn't be parking my car sideways and making roadblocks for the federal agents who were trying to conduct lawful actions. And then I wouldn't accelerate toward them when they tell me to stop. Even if someone did tell her to go forward and she chose that voice to be obedient to, she was doing it while some woman standing in front of her car saying stop with a gun in their hand. So there's another angle to this story, no pun intended, but there's another angle to this that I didn't even consider.

So I was live when that happened. And as is usually the case when stuff like this happens, you get one video that kind of goes viral, then another one, then another one. It was the same thing with like Charlie Kirk. But in this case, the first video that I saw, the front of the car was completely obstructed so you couldn't see anything.

And so I was like, I have no idea what to think about the shooting. The second angle was a little bit better, but you kind of have to slow it down. And the biggest, I think the most important kind of element of that video is his feet. And like the New York Times came out with like a forensic analysis of that video. And it's like four minutes long. You can find it on Twitter.

And it's something that I had noticed the day that it happened, which is like, I finally started looking at his feet and I watched a really slow down version. And then once you see that, you can see that his feet are, he's very clearly out of the direct path of the car. She hit him with a car. So you're, they made contact. but he was clear like you can see his feet by the time he fired that first round he was so there's another element to her he wasn't gonna hit his feet but she hit his body i mean that's like so like my first instinct right then was to be like she made a really bad decision like just period end of like they were very clearly you can hear them say get out of the car get out of the car get out of the

fucking car like i heard it three times her window was down and but then to woody's point there was a witness to witness that spoke on it today that said that she heard another officer give her an order to leave. And so like you say you brought up the point that you know she moved back and then she moved forward, right? By the time the the ice agent starts to pull on the door handle, she's already in the process of starting to move behind. And if you're moving behind, you're either looking at a camera that's a rearview camera or you're looking behind. So it's entirely plausible that she did not see that guy that was right next to her. Also there's a lot going on. He was right there yelling at her. There's a lot of, um,

uncertainty right now. And like I think I don't know, I wouldn't I wouldn't tell you like a 100% this or 100% that, but there's enough here to like really question his decision to do that in that moment. I understand that cops, we give them the legal authority to use lethal force and you can't expect perfection. Sometimes mistakes are going to be made. But there's enough here to have like very serious doubts about the narrative that they're spinning. Obviously like Christine know I'm getting up there and accusing this woman of being a left-wing terrorist. That is pretty fucking insane. I mean, she's driving around stalking federal agents.

Like, like, imagine that. You're driving around stalking federal agents. He said the cop was in the hospital recovering from his injuries. He went to the hospital. What he said was actually correct. I don't know. He said he was lucky to be alive. He was lucky to be alive.

Oh, my gosh. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. watch the, well, hold on. You think there's any chance I haven't watched that video from several different. No, no, no, no. I mean, there is a video of it that's out there everywhere that everyone was scrubbing back and forth where it's a front wheel drive car and you can see the front wheel spin aimed at him. If it was, if this happened in July, that guy gets hit by that car and run over.

Like the wheels spun out. It wasn't until she saw the gun that she veered to the right. and he at that point was already being struck by the car. And this is the same guy. I don't know. I just got back, so I don't know what Kyle said. But this guy got dragged by like an activist who was driving a car within the last year,

like hundreds of yards. He was severely injured. Yeah. Yeah, this guy has a habit of trying to fight cars. He reminds me of the women we laugh at in the, you know, that we see women fighting cars all the time. He's ridiculous. It's that left this activist have a habit of using their cars against federal law enforcement.

That's what the habit is. You think that's what happened here? That's exactly what happens. Do you remember that shooting from a few years ago? Actually what happened? Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Do you remember that shooting from a few years ago where the guy was drunk and the cop had that AR 15 or M16, whatever it was with the predator logos on and he was all tatted up, much like these ice guys?

And he was giving these terrible instructions to follow. He was like, hands up in the hotel, yeah. He's like, hands up, hands up, crawl towards me. Hands up, crawl towards me. And the guy's like, crawl or hands up? And eventually just opens fire because he's not following attraction. This woman was in the same position where some police were telling her to get out of the way.

Other police were telling her to get the F out of the car. She listened to the police that told her to move on. Why are you guys saying no? Because it's not even vaguely. This is just lies. This isn't true. It's ultimate reality. Wait, where are you guys guys guys?

this there were witnesses that were there at the time that I'm a witness you watched you heard you heard the orders from the one guy well all of us agree that she was given that he said at least three times to get out of the car but there there are witnesses that were there multiple witnesses that say that there was another ICE officer that was instructing her to move her car I'm sure at the beginning of the incident when at first they thought she was just doing a three-point turn they were like get out of here but when they realized that she was in fact the left way to let me finish let me finish let what he

Okay, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. But you can see that she wasn't making a three-point turn to get over to Target. She was turning her car sideways in the middle of a road to block federal agents who were clearly uniformed and holding guns. Like who were trying to arrest illegal immigrants who were hiding in a house. She was literally a left-wing activist. That's the definition of what she was doing there. It doesn't matter if she had a, she's a member of a, a group or she was a card holding member or whatever her actions were those of a left wing

radical activists impeding federal law enforcement have you seen video of how her car got that way i haven't i thought maybe you've seen video i've only seen video of like nothing starts more than a minute before the shooting have you seen better video than me how her car got that what do you mean got that yeah yeah like i haven't seen her like there's this argument that she like put her car in the road sideways to oh yeah and stuff. Yeah. I didn't see long before the video. That's why people were saying. I don't know. I saw her sight. Well, I mean, it's snowy. It's slippery. I don't know how it got there. I know every car in that road seemed to be pointed in sort of a non-traditional direction. And she's waving police by right before the

shooting. Wait, wait, wait. What is the only circumstance in which you could wave a policeman by if you're blocking them? Like, she pulled forward to block them. Like, there's also eyewitness stories, a woman who said, yeah, she'd been doing this all day and she was doing a great job of what she was trying to do, which was impede a federal law enforcement operation by blocking the road, by agitating.

It's sad that she died. And she's waving them by. You're stuck on the waving. I don't care about her waving. She's clearly parked her car sideways in the middle of the road on purpose. She didn't she was, you're suggesting it seems that perhaps

she got like loose in the ice and snow and accidentally her car spun sideways and now she's, oh no, whoopsie daisy, I'm parked sideways creating an accidental roadblock. Is that what we're doing? I don't know how she got that way.

I said it was slippery. We know how she got there. Wait. Wait, let me listen to this. Or she could have been trying to turn around and that's how she got sideways or she could have been trying to block them. But the part of the video I saw

of her waving them by is definitely inconsistent with her trying to block them. She tried, she, I was going to say she tried to hit an ice agent with her car. She succeeded. And it would have been, it would have been so much worse if this happened in June and there wasn't ice on the road. You can see the front wheels spinning when she hits the gas. You can see the back of the car go down as the acceleration hits. Like it's, it's there.

She wanted to hit him with her car. She succeeded in hitting. him with the car. I don't know about all that. I don't think this Honda passport turns into a fucking Tesla plaid and mows down a cop in one foot of acceleration, even in the dry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. You don't think that a car coming at you from a foot away, a two-ton Honda pilot on ice is like a threat to your life. So here, here, here I think is, Here I think it's some relevant analysis. Okay, so like in order to justify the shot of like the use of lethal force,

he would have to demonstrate that he had a credible fear of significant harm or injury or death to himself, his fellow officers or the public. When you actually, there's three different angles or four different angles. And you can clearly see in one of the one of the angles as she's moving forward, he actually leans forward and puts his left hand on the hood of her car. So he's actually making an effort to stay in front of her car in that moment. Once he is like literally the moment contact is made and he is clear of the front of the car in that moment is when he starts to fire How do you justify the idea that he felt like there was a

Significant threat to his life is if his feet were clear of the front of the car he was like being hit by a car He was not in front of the car though The first shot was when he was in front of the car it went through the front it went through the front windshield Negative well it did go through the front windshield but you can oh how is it so it went to your He was by the front tire. And again, he put his hand on. He began in front of the car. Are we all watching the same videos?

I don't know. It feels like we're not. Kyle, is this crazy? It feels like Trump's derangement syndrome is real all of a sudden. It's literally like you're in a different reality. It has been, dude. It's been a real for a while. Wait, no, no, no.

Hang on. She's accelerating the car towards this man. And all he knows is the car's coming toward him. I heard people talking, the wheels are turned to the right. He can't see the fucking wheels. As far as he knows, they're turned to the, the left he's telling her to stop he is the law okay well of course you put himself in front of the car he's blocking her her exit she's under arrest okay but here's another here's another question

why did he step in front of a moving car it wasn't moving when he stepped in front of it was it was i promise you he stepped in front of her car as it was moving backwards i just saw the video i'm still right he's by the front tire i just linked the i don't know if you guys can show it on i don't know what tos is but he steps he steps in front he positions himself in front of her car as she's moving backwards and then she starts to move forward his instinct in that moment he put his hand on the hood of the car as he was shuffling to the side and in the in the video that i linked right there you can see his feet positioned like he is not in front of the car when that first shot rings out contact was made but he was not he was very much like he goes both ways right

the trunch derangement syndrome is real it will make you think that he was in front of the car when he fired that shot. The car hit him. The car hit him from the side, right? Like, it didn't hit him with the front of him. Did the car move laterally? And like, swat him? Like, the car, look, you're asking this guy also within like 100 milliseconds to know where

the tires are, know what the direction of the car is and all this stuff. He is a law enforcement agent standing in front of a car, telling, giving it a lawful order to stop. This one's being detained. And she is accelerating. raiding a car in his direction enough that it strikes him even though his feet were definitely didn't get ran over or shooting her in the face might have helped with that is that can you put put that video up you just linked just you don't have to put sound on or anything just put that video up this video is

where you see him put his hand on the hood of the car it's where you see the car hit him the the car makes contact, but he is not in front of that car. He is, he is, how else do you get hit by a car? If she turns the wheels to the left, then she crushes him. You can, she's going, he's going to die. If no, he is, look at, look at his feet. Look at his feet. No, I'm saying if the only reason he's not dead is because the wheels turn to the right, he doesn't know that. He doesn't know.

He doesn't know. Hang on. Just watch his feet, guys. His feet is to the side of that front left tire. Do you see that? Yes. So she steers into it. He's not in front of that. car by that point. He puts his hand on the hood. He tries to, as if to say, like, no, I'm serious. Stop, which is not protocol, by the way. You cannot find protocol in any law enforcement

anywhere in the country that advises to stay positioned in front of a car. I believe it's like a subsection 111B of something that says that, yeah, if you believe you're at threat, a vehicle is obviously a weapon, like you can fire back. There's actually precedent of this in Minnesota, up. But like you, he's being, he got a, this is like if it was a gunfight and you're like, as you can see, he missed. The bullet went past the officer and hit the wall. And yet he shot the person three times in the head. The perpetrator missed, ladies and gentlemen. And you can even tell that they were intending to miss. Because look at that grip. Look at the, look at the, direction they're pointing the gun. It's just trying to move the officer out of their way so they can

flee the scene of their crime. that's all my client was guilty of here, but you will not find protocol on any law enforcement group across the entire country that's going to say, position yourself in front of a car. I don't know anything about that, but I know that this person, I know that he's going to be Scott-free here.

You're probably right about that. You're probably right about that. I've seen plenty of cops do exactly what this guy did and just literally light windshields up on people. Climb up on the hood and light their windshield up. If this wasn't a political thing, no one would give the fuck. It's only because this is a political thing that people are frantic to be like, actually they didn't.

Sure. By contact was, by contact, you mean hitting someone and ramming them with a car that you think is going to be used to kill you after you were dragged by one of these people five months ago and were in the hospital for severe. He leaned on the car as it was moving. And so he was saying, so he deserves. No, no, no, no. So it's kind of a... No, no, no, no, hang on. The policies that are in place for these law enforcement agents are that they are supposed

to position themselves away from that. Like, so you cannot put yourself in a situation. Like it weakens your case if you put yourself in a situation where you had to use the gun in the first place. If you would have made the decision instead to step aside and she would have, you know, they would have pursued her or whatever. They had her license plate number. I mean, what was the urgency here?

But what he did was he positioned himself. he leaned in front of the car and then waited until his feet were clear of the path before he took that first shot that's what makes it questionable and he was this is what i would expect to happen to me if i did what she did yeah it would happen to anyone it is only because of politics if i were in her shoes if i were you guys are i would be so quick at putting that car in part getting my hands up and surrendering loudly but you guys are you guys seem to be ignoring the test the testimony from witnesses that she was being... I am because I saw so many of them say that the guy fired five shots when he only fired. But you're ignoring the idea that she got conflicting orders. You're just like ignoring that.

I don't believe by witness testimonies. I believe video. Wait, which ones screamed drive the car into me right now? I heard all those eyewitnesses saying he fired five, six shots. No, he didn't. He fired three shots. So if they can't even get the number of shots right, I don't trust their word on this. Well, here's the thing. The cop that fired that gun was filming with his phone. They don't have to wear police cameras in Minneapolis. The Biden administration implemented a policy where all federal law enforcement had to wear body cameras. Trump decided to end that policy. Okay, he can do that. That's his right. I'm against that. He had he had, he had his phones out and he

was recording. So why don't they release that footage? I'm sure they probably should. I bet it's strong. You know, who else should release the footage is. But I think it's important to understand that things would escalate and orders would change. I bet initially they were they thought like, hey, what you doing, you knucklehead? Get out of here. But then when it became clear as she sat there and impeded them, I bet it escalated to a point where they said, now yous can't leave. And they began arresting and detaining her for interfering with law enforcement. This impeded them thing is overblown because I saw her wave the other SUV by like 10 seconds before the shooting. I think, again, she'd been stalking them doing this all day, apparently. I don't know what

happened before this. I only have the video to deal with. but I can imagine a scenario and make one up where she keeps blocking them. She's not letting them go somewhere that they want to go clearly. I know they're like ice, so they don't really do traffic law, but the fuck is she doing sideways in the middle of the road? I don't know. If I'm just a Joe Schmo cop and I see that, I'm like, you had anything to drink today, ma'am?

We're going to have to have a whole conversation if I see you sideways parked in the middle of the road. She was apparently affiliated with a group called Ice Watch that would harass and go around two things like this. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see what comes of it, but I would bet heavily on this guy having no issues. Of course, the internet is already doxing him, just like they doxed the Delta Commander. He did his wayler race. Christy known doxed him first.

She said his name. What she said was the same guy. He was the same guy in June who got drag 30 yards and then that person's name. So she accidentally doxed him. But the internet is like running with his like biography and a picture of him. This is a murderer. Share this everywhere you can. It's a little different.

Yeah. I agree. Yeah, I can take that. Yeah. I think that once Christy Dome made his identity real, everyone was like, we know who he is. And they get excited about it. Yeah, they're also, like I said, they're doxing that Delta Force commander who, who led the raid in, uh, in Venezuela as well. they're sending his picture around.

Yeah. Or they're trying to. I thought I saw one of those was fake. Like that they got the wrong guy, which is, happens all the time in these scenarios. But I don't know. I know that it was, I know that it was shared by people trying to incite harm to them.

Like that was the goal of them, doxing. That's what doxing is. You're trying to incite harm against someone. I'll tell you what the people of Minnesota shouldn't do. And it's anything violent because the Trump administration would love to see you take the bait and start burning down Minneapolis and roll in there with some scary shit and they're already sending another 2,000 ICE officers in.

Well, yeah. Well, I mean, they're going to complete their immigration rates. Adding more people is what I'm saying. I'm sort of agreeing with the point. They're rolling. They're ramping things up. But I would be more worried about them sending in National Guard from a different state or sending in Army or something like that.

and declaring martial law in the city did you see Tim Wong? The governor activated yeah the governor activated the Minnesota National Guard and there were 10,000 people that demonstrated last night by all by all accounts that it did not it did not devolve into if they were Rukai they would have taken Helms deep it was that many people yeah no Gandalf would want don't even say that I mean I it would be nice if the federal government cooperated with the Minnesota authorities because right now the heads have in the Minnesota are claiming that they're iced out like the fed the feds the FBI are not sharing evidence and and why would they share like they are they are obligated to it you're supposed to collaborate

together if you're going to do right it's right it's it's the other way it goes the the food chain goes up right like the no what i've seen is the and and i i hope the trump administration latches on to it is that they blame this on local law enforcement not working with them there should have been local law enforcement there during those ice raids, handling things. Well, then it's a failure on local law enforcement. Tim Walz told the, when ICE called the Minnesota,

or I'm sorry, the Minneapolis Sheriff's Department, they didn't get an answer. They asked for help and Tim Walz told them not to cooperate. I might be mistaken, but I thought there were local PD on the ground. Maybe they showed up after the fact. No. He said, he said, not to cooperate.

He told Minneapolis PD, Tim Walz did. He told them not to cooperate with federal law enforcement. And now he's saying that he wants to activate the National Guard. I'm not making this up. He used the word war. He invoked the Minnesota first from 1863 about defending Minnesota. He brought that up. Have you seen those clips?

Are you want to talk about? You may have good reason. So he's got good reason. Like to play devil's advocate here, he's seen Trump activate national guard units from states like Texas and Oklahoma. and then have them go into foreign states to enforce federal prerogative. So Tim Walts has preemptively activated his National Guard

as to say, don't come here. It's clearly handled. That's not what this was. That's not what this was. He wasn't setting up some kind of a physical conflict between the Minnesota National Guard. That's not what I'm saying. Minneapolis was the ground zero

for the fucking riots in 2020. And so he's preemptively just sending a message to the protesters. Oh, no. Oh, no. He's no, if anything, he's agitating and like boosting the protesters. Wait, did you, did you watch his press conferences yesterday and today? He very, he calls ICE agents, Gestapo.

He very explicitly was telling the people of Minnesota do not devolve into violence. Trump said it January 6th. He said literally, he said literally, exactly. This is a very different context, but like he very, very explicitly told people do not. He said the same thing you just said, don't take the bait. He said the same thing. said Mike Pence is a traitor on January 6, too. Well, he did disobey the president's orders,

but I would say that Mike Pence was choosing the constitutional republic over a rogue president trying to see an election. Trump very clearly instigated those people. I can't hear this conversation again. I can't. I can't do this. It was the worst natural disaster in America. Get a direct. The worst natural disaster in America.

They meandered violently. you got to bring Dick Masterson back on if we're going to do another January 6th debate I just saw a guy hitting a cop with a baseball bat on January 6 today I don't know where the bat came from me at a riot shield and a bat oh had he considered maybe he was playing baseball with his son and suddenly the cop jumped in the middle of things no I did have you considered that who knows maybe it came from the FBI evidence I hear he was a little league Hundreds of plainclosed agents.

But back to what you're saying a minute is going on. Trump must have sent the FBI in here. They were Trump's FBI. Back to what you were saying a minute ago in terms of the investigation, the state conducts their own investigation. The federal government, as far as I understand, they can basically invoke the supremacy clause and usurp that investigation, take it to a judge and ask for it to be dismissed. That's not typically what they've done in the past.

They have the feds have cooperated with state authorities while they conduct their own investigation. Right now, as of right now, maybe it's changed in the last three hours. the FBI was not sharing any evidence with Minnesota authorities so they cannot do an investigation. Why are you saying of course not? You should want transparency, right? I don't care what they do with the information because I've seen everything that seems relevant and made my own judgment. And they're not going to have any clues that I didn't have. No, I want all the information. No, I want all the information. Yeah. But what I'm saying is that J.D. Vance was out today.

He spoke for like half an hour on this. You heard his words, total immunity. Yeah, like he's like this guy has complete immunity or total immunity was either one of those phrases Well, you know, surely surely most Americans want transparency, right? Like 89% of Americans support the idea that every police officer should wear a body camera This guy was seen filming this guy was seen filming what was happening on his phone so he has we know he has video So like in the public interest if they really if they really want to release that okay great I bet they will I bet they will and it'll support their claims They only will support their claims. I want to see it in either case.

I'm happy to be wrong. I'm happy to be right. But I definitely want to get all the information. The fact that there seems to be some sort of cover up by not cooperating with Minnesota, by not releasing some of the footage and just instantly defining her as some sort of like crazy domestic terrorist and overstating that the cop is lucky to be alive and all that fun stuff, it feels like a propaganda cover up. Donald Trump said he was run over. Donald Trump said he was run over. He was run over and lucky to be alive.

The propaganda cover up, and this is just difference of perspective, obviously. We're going to disagree. It's that someone clearly attempted to harm an ICE agent after impeding federal law enforcement. With a deadly weapon. With a deadly weapon. And we can see through the video that the front tires of the front wheel drive vehicle were spinning in the direction of the ICE agent. The ice agent was then struck. This guy had been dragged hundreds of yards and severely injured earlier in the year.

Because as Kyle correctly pointed out earlier, leftist extremists are using cars to impede these sorts of things. Are you sure about it? It was a hundred yards. It was a hundred yards. It was a hundred. Thousands of yards. I don't think anyone survives thousands of yards.

But to get it to something, to get it to something, To get a different light, a little bit lighter because I'm sure we're going to go into Venezuela or something after this. Is Zach, can you please show this video with sound that I linked to the tweet? This is a guy filming the aftermath of this. And I was dying, laughing at that. Like, it's so inappropriate for what's just occurred. And I think you all might get a laugh. There we go.

Make sure sounds on. I don't you know how black people with it's phone her She thick as hell Fuck you talk about I watched a video without audio And I said that a few seconds ago I watched your video no audio And I went

Damn she's thick Just as people were screaming and being like She thick as hell They got a You know I'm throwing cool guy the week to whoever that is I think you got Facebooked I think somebody added that after and editing.

Oh, God, you always have to be alert now, don't you? It's too, if videos are funny enough, I go suspension of belief mode. I like that. I like that, yeah, absolutely. That's funny. I like that a lot. But in much, same reaction. That's so funny.

In much bigger news than that, the whole Venezuela thing. And I know we probably shouldn't dwell on it forever, because I know we talked about it a lot on a PKK, but what are your thoughts, Hutch? I'm interested. I don't know. I'm at a point where, like, my chat gets pissed to me sometimes because I'm like pretty zen about everything. Like once he won, I was like, all right, another four years. And so I can't say I'm surprised. I understand that Democrats, I think, do need to be a little bit careful in terms of how they respond to this because like I predicted that approval for this operation would probably inch up like it did in Iran like initially the Iran strikes were

slightly unpopular and then after it was obvious that we just like just fucking dominated that and they got it beyond like a lot of people just like that kind of like we're fucking America you know and so it kind of taps into kind of janguism and that sort of thing and so I don't know I think it's a I mean, you're super anti-interventionist, right, Taylor? No, not on this one. I'm anti-intervention in situations that don't benefit the U.S. So like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Ukraine,

Syria, Libya, Yemen, Israel. Yeah, intervening with all our money we give them in Israel, Nigeria, like all the things that have happened. Like Venezuela at least has a point because it's in our hemisphere and it was a stronghold for China. China was building military installations there. At least we have a tangible benefit there.

All that other shit was like... I thought it was Russian anti-air. Oh, Chinese anti-air. Oh, it was Chinese anti-air. I watched a couple of like military like combat YouTube channels today do their breakdown analysis. Do you know that was a, that they had a 30-man Cuban special forces team protecting Maduro? Yeah, because he was like, he was cowed. Do you know that they're all dead today?

You know, they're all fucking dead? Like, that's that fucking flag saluting America's shit. When you tell me that these guys were so good at what they do that they went in with rifles and killed 30 guys and none of them got shot. Yeah. Seems like we could do the Bay. Take the Cod World champs and put them against the four of us. We'll get a kill, boys. There was an element to it where, like, I was watching it.

I did have a moment where I was just, I suspect probably all of us had a moment that was similar that was like, Jesus Christ, like, how fucking sophisticated are our intelligence systems? How fucking sophisticated are our military infrastructure? Like the fact that we can just go into a country of 30 million people fly into the capital, do these like precision strikes, like that level of sophistication in the intelligence is, that was like, it's wild. It was scary. It was like, holy shit.

But I'm not surprised. I always assumed we could do that. There were, I didn't know we could do this. Like I saw pictures of the barracks we got before and after. And I found them in because I was going through Venezuelan Twitter. And so everything's, you know, translated from Spanish. And they were all raving about how they're like, America is so sophisticated. They didn't even blow up a tree.

And it shows the before and after of the barracks and it's surrounded by trees. they didn't hit a single tree. They destroyed just the barracks. Like that's the level of surgical precision. The U.S. military is capable. If anything, this event made me realize, like, I always thought, like, China was a little bit behind us. Russia, you know, behind us a bit more than China.

This seems like we're the, we are so far above everyone. We don't know how they turn the lights out and that's the most impressive part. If anything, it's comforting. It means American global hegemony will last. I thought you didn't like that, though. We've had those laser-guided bombs and munitions that can go down a chimney since the Gulf War and probably before that. But we showed them off in the Gulf War. Top-Dun Maverick, bro.

But the way they turned off the power in Caracas is still a mystery that people are just speculating about. I thought it was confirmed that they did malware. I thought that's what I read. The initial reporting is that we installed malware in there. Trump said it was due to a certain expertise we have. And then he credited cybercom, spacecom, and several other agencies. All that shit is. There's no way we're getting the real answer for how they handled that.

They're not even giving a threat, maybe. I find it believable that Trump gave away a secret. Yeah, he's not that. He knows enough of him. How did it? He didn't say. Surely you guys have. surely you guys have an issue with him um i mean this feels like more than just like strategic advantage

we're talking about essentially conquest you know we're talking about we're talking about uh uh seizing seizing their um oil oil reserves are you got are you guys okay with that i'm fine i'm fine i'm so so wait so wait hold on does that mean that you would be okay with doing the same thing in greenland because we would similarly benefit right oh here's the difference so what we've done we just build stuff there we don't need it so first of we don't i mean he's talking about Panama to Noriega. We did this exact same playbook to Noriega and Panama in 1990, George H.W. Bush Kidnapped him with a military slash DEA force, took him back to New York, tried him, put him in federal prison for his crimes. And I don't know who the leadership was in Panama, but I bet they dance to our tune after that.

That's the same thing they're doing in Venezuela. Venezuela can't export oil right now, crude oil, because our Navy is there. And our Navy's not going to leave. So we're going to take the, we're going to refine oil at a, at some sort of, it's going to be ours. We're taking the oil. You can't imagine blowback? You can't imagine blowback for this? Such is. It's a country of, well, first of all, I mean, Venezuela, I think has like 32 million people in it. But you're also talking about like broader Latin America.

You can't imagine provoking a kind of anti-Western imperialist movement that would come from this. And not one that we're not one that. Because they're very, I mean on Twitter and shit. No. We're very happy on like Latin America is overwhelmingly stoked on getting rid of Maduro because there's a lot of people are. I mean, he was brutal. Yeah, he was. He was horrible.

He ran over people with banks who were protesting. And also 8 million people over the past 13 years during his reign have fled. And that pisses off surrounding countries because they're like, the fuck. Like we have to take this. And so like the only concern I have, which I said on P.K.A. Ann, so I'll keep it brief, is a migrant crisis. I don't want an additional migrant crisis from this. Because if you recall in 2022, the Biden administration, arrested the president of Honduras on narco charges into Guzigalpa, the capital of Honduras.

And after they arrested him, it created a migrant problem. And so that is the only concern I have. I was very worried about bombing Iran turning into a big war. And that's why I'm against, I'm still against any Iran stuff because I don't see a benefit for the U.S. there much. That's an Israeli war. That's like for Israel. Like it doesn't benefit us.

So I don't want to fight Iran. It affects us a little bit as far as the way Iran might fund anti-Western terror organizations, not just Hezbollah, who's there in Palestine, but some sort of al-Qaeda splinter group or something like that. I always worry about Iran funding that and giving them some fucking irradiated materials and them being in a fucking shipping container in San Francisco detonating a dirty bomb on the Golden Gate Bridge and making the most financially dense area in the planet and irradiated wasteland for 16 years.

And that would be bad. The most catastrophic mistake that the Bush administration made was a complete lack of thought about how to move forward after Saddam was gone. Like they just, in all the investigations they did, and all the post-mortem analyses, they just had no plan. And it seems like Donald Trump, it seems like Donald, hang on real quick, I want to tie you to this thing. It seems like Donald Trump is in a similar position because you had the opposition leader, her name was Machado, I think. And technically, she lines up with American interests more than the VP that was just sworn in.

But Trump passed on her reportedly because she was salty that she won the Nobel Peace Prize and didn't give it to him. That seems like you guys can't imagine this action of, I mean, this is just, this is just pure conquest of like taking that oil. They're already making deals. You can't imagine a movement springing up in Latin America that would be become radicalized and, Do some kind of terrorist attack in the United States? I can because when you act like an asshole, you find yourself unpopular and isolated. And I don't think you can base right versus wrong

or good versus bad based on what's good for me. I could take a gun to downtown Raleigh and mug people and say, hey, it's good for me, therefore I support it. But it doesn't make it good. And in the long term, I'll be isolated and in trouble. If we just go and mug a country like Venezuela and take all their oil, It might be nice in the short term.

Sure, I have somebody else's wallet. In the long term, though, you're the bad guy, and you're globally isolated, and it's a problem. I don't think that's realistic. We've seen it happen so many friends. Nobody cares what we're doing in Venezuela. If we fuck with Greenland, then I'm on your page. If we fuck with Greenland, we upset NATO, we upset Europe, that's different page. They don't care about what we do in South America.

They know that that's ours because that's been ours since the 50s. Every single government down there, we either buy, break, or bribe or whatever you want to call it. Every single one of those governments, we have our fingers in a pot. Whether that's right or wrong or not, doesn't matter because we don't get to be policy makers. It's what we do as the United States of America. But it's actually, but it has happened several times in history that we go in impose our will, depose some leader, install some loyalist, and then the country devolves into chaos, happened in the Iran.

It's happened in Central and South America several times all throughout history. We're not responsible for Iran, are we? I'm talking about the Iranian. I thought installing, no, I mean Iran. I mean, they installed the Shah. They installed the Shah. And then the late 70s, there was a fucking revolution. And then look where we are now.

But you know, the difference. I think it's important to point out that the huge difference in Venezuela is when we took down Saddam Hussein, we took down the entire Baathist party. And everyone was affiliated. But you had to be in the Bathurst party to be in the government. So basically, we fired every government official who knew what they were doing and barred them from ever holding office again. Yeah. Not down to the dog catchers. Then we did the same thing to their police forces and security forces and secret police.

Who were armed. And who were armed. Now all those guys are without a job and looking for a new career. And there's no one to replace them. We couldn't have fucked our, it's almost like we did it on purpose. Maybe we did. It's like I have a hard time believing we're that stupid and bad at it. I don't know which it is.

Either we're incredibly negligent and stupid in that mood. That was incompetence. Oh my God. You ruined them. on purpose. You created that insurgency to sell weapons and make a forever war over here. Maybe they did that. I could believe our government's that evil. But in South America and Venezuela, we didn't tear down the government. We took the king off the board and the queen stepped up. The vice president's running that country right now and presumably remaining in power under a contiguous

government that we can now boss around because they know that we'll come and fucking grab you if you don't. Yeah. And that's good for America geopolitically. And the whole, it depends on the framing of the argument because opposition to things like this, intervention that actually benefits America, where it's like,

oh, well, we all seem like the bad guys and this and that. That's not how great power politics work. It's not how diplomacy works. It's not how, you know, geopolitics works.

Like, if you, it just comes down to two different discussions. If you want to talk about the morality of it and the implications of that, sure. But if you want to talk about like the predictions and ability to ascertain what we're likely to next do, like you need to think about great power politics. Not, oh, but we're going to seem mean. Like, no, Russia now. Russia invaded.

Sorry. No, no, no. Go ahead. I'm sorry. You could use this rationale to invade and depose like anyone. Like you could use this. I mean, it would benefit us if we, you know, did that to Canada. if it benefits, if you did that to Mexico.

It comes down to power, though. Like, I see a lot of morons on the internet saying things like, oh, so they can just arrest Trump when he goes to France now? And it's like, try. No, because that's not how power dynamics work. Oh, so Bangladesh can just invade China and depose Xi Jinping? No, no. The only defining factor there is power and the ability to project power influence globally.

Right. We could do that to a lot of different countries, right? We clearly. Almost all over. Because Russia, think about during the Ukraine war, Russia on at least one occasion, maybe two, tried to do a Delta Force thing to Zelensky. What prevented that? Yeah.

They failed because they weren't adept enough. They all got murdered by Zelensky's guard or whatever. Like, they try that thing. The limiting factor is for every other great power, China and Russia. is capacity. Not will. If China wakes up tomorrow with a 10 times stronger military,

they don't take Taiwan. They take the whole planet. They are limited by will. They are limited by capacity. We are the only superpower that we've self-imposed a limit of will over the path, really ever since Carter in 80.

It seems like you're taking like an extreme might makes right kind of position here. But you could- Geopolitically, that's how it works. Yes. And right doesn't mean morally. It just means... No, no, I understand. Yeah, yeah. But you could use that same rationale to do the same thing in probably a dozen other countries that are in our... But we wouldn't want to do that because the only time we should be interceding in global events is if it has a tangible benefit to America.

That's why Syria... It would benefit us. That's why Libya was a total disaster. Libya was a complete disaster in 2011 toppling Gaddafi. We spent a bunch of time, a bunch of money, and then it hurt Europe tremendously. So if it's a country that we can easily usurp and take their resources, should we do that in every case? It depends on the geopolitical implications. Like who are they benefits from it. It's almost always going to be cheaper to buy their stuff. No, but I'm asking, should we, right?

Because you're saying we should have done this. We ought to have cheaper to buy them. Well, no, no, I'm saying for. Yeah, if it's, if it's cheaper to buy it, then we just buy it. But if it's not cheaper, should we do this to other countries? How badly do we need it? I mean, is it like unobtainium or is it like that whale? Let's just say they have similar oil reserves.

If we have to kidnap another president from Nicaragua. And it depends on like, in Venezuela's case, I like this because I didn't want China moving missiles and Russia moving missiles into Venezuela and having another Cuban missile crisis. That place has like the largest oil and gold reserves on the planet. It's 500 miles from Puerto Rico. We call dibs. We call dibs. And that's just going to be the way things are.

I don't like the Greenland thing because what they're talking about is annexing and making it hours. And there's 30,000 people there who don't want that. And it's their home. And I don't like that at all. I do recognize the strategic and resource reasons for taking it. But I wouldn't support vote for or if I was on a. cabinet, you know, with Trump, I wouldn't speak up for the taking, an annexing of Greenland. I don't like that at all.

I'd rather have the Panama Canal. Not just because of right and wrong. And just to be clear, it would be wrong, morally speaking and just, you know, just, put yourself in a black space and say, is this right or wrong? It's wrong. It's theirs. We're stronger than we can take it. We're not bullies on a playground.

Don't act like that for no reason. The real problem is beyond the right and wrong is it would break up NATO. I don't know what the rest of NATO would do. And as much as I don't like NATO, I do recognize that we're in a position where Russia is already at war with Ukraine. China clearly is slobbering at the mouth for Taiwan. If Russia is swept down through Lithuania, at the same time China swept an embargoed Taiwan,

we'd be stretched. We'd be fighting wars on two sides of the planet. that would be a real problem. And then a NATO that we're not coordinating with and working hand in hand with is going to just exacerbate that and make that a big loss. Mostly for Europe. Mostly for Europe and Taiwan. I mean, we're all the way over here, obviously. Do you like Hutch that the Venezuela thing is detrimental to China's aspirations towards Taiwan?

Do I like it? I mean... Yeah, of course. They're our enemy. Well, I mean, I'll have to recognize that. I think we have to think about like just, I think there's a little bit of myopia going on here, guys, like a lack of imagination. Because things are, I mean, it went swimmingly, right? Like the transition, new vice president.

But you guys aren't imagining a situation where the situation in Venezuela and the broader Latin America region really becomes totally destabilized. You mentioned like a migrant crisis. Let me ask you what you mean by that. Like, are you talking about like, like they're being an insurgency of, of, like, they're being an insurgency of, Yeah, you inspire a kind of anti-West anti-imperialism kind of movement. I mean, we've seen that happen literally already like a dozen dozen times. It didn't happen when Biden. When I was doing the wrong thing, it's partly just from you want to be a good person

in a good country, but also if you're a bad person or a bad country, then you get what's coming to you eventually. The entire world lines up against you. You find yourself isolated and with no friends. acting like this to Venezuela and then making a habit out of that, you'll find yourself all alone. Did we harm Venezuela? You can't eat everybody at once.

We helped Venezuela. Let's wait. We don't know yet. But wait, this feels like kind of like a mission accomplished moment. I mean, like they were saying the exact same thing. They were saying the exact same thing because we rolled through Iraq the second time way easier. Do you think Iraq and Venezuela are similar? No, I didn't say it.

It's a different, different situation. Like I said, the government's standard. The vice president is now the president. One of them were going into a country in Iraq that never has had a democracy ever. And there's three warring ethno-religious conflicts where they're trying to genocide each other for 2,000 years. They are totally unprepared for even the concept of democracy. They don't want it. They don't need it.

They don't have spit in it. Venezuela, on the other hand, is very familiar with democracy. It's a largely homogenous, I believe Catholic culture there. like and they are all stoked or the vast majority the super majority are stoked that this douchebag who reduced their GDP from 300 and something billion in 2010 to 110 billion now he caused a lot he caused a ton of problems he was a terrible guy right like you know you have this oil rich country that you're invading who's cozying up to people who weren't friends of ours so we're going to go in there we're going to decapitate the leader we're going to take the oil it's going to be

great for America. Really? Let's wait. We didn't take the oil in our area. Yeah, I know. This feels like a mission accomplished moment yet again. It is early to plant your flag and act like you won. Sure. Yeah, I've said before. It all depends on an outcome. What would be the scenario where things would go wrong because what you would need is the country to literally fall into an Iraqi-style insurgency for us. Because what they're going to do is they're making nice with the new president of Venezuela, who is now in power unjustly, if you ask me, because Maduro's opponent got 80% of the vote. 80%.

Think about that. He only got, this is a guy who only 20% of the population voted for. He's, they're definitely, 80% of the population is definitely stoked. We took this guy away. But what they really want is that lady

who ran against him to be the president because she won the fucking last election. They should have new elections stat. That's the right thing to do. But what we're going to do is we're going to puppet that vice president, bitch. And she's not going to physically be able to export oil because the United States Navy is filling the Caribbean.

And I'll tell you another thing Trump did today, Toco Trump took that fucking Russian tanker right in front of a Russian submarine, cupped, naval cuckledry, like called Russia's bluff and they just stole that boat and they're bringing it back. And it's, I like that because you don't see him stand up to Putin nearly enough or be, or Russia nearly enough. I do like that. That 50 million barrels of oil that we just got from Venezuela. And I'm confused as to how it's working.

Did we take the oil for free and we're selling it at market price? I read about it. I wish I remember exactly. It's what was already happening. It's one of those things where they explained a situation to him that was already in place and he's calling it a victory for him. So ignore that like free 50 million. barrels of oil. That was already coming to us, already owed to us. Okay. It was either already

coming to us or already owed to us or it was what we already take or something. So he's lying on that. I thought it was excellent. But what we are going to do clearly is send his oil company buddies in to develop and exploit that oil. But we're not stealing it like the Romans. We're not taking 100% of their oil and leaving them in poverty and saying join the lead. So it's it's not that. We're saying you're in business with us now. We're going to pay you the market rate. You get this much as we get that much. To that I say we'll see. Just like manufacturing has declined in Trump's age of tariffs because there's so much instability who would invest in Trump's tariff protections, right? Like they could completely disappear when Trump leaves. They could completely disappear while Trump is here. We've seen him oscillate on what a tariff level should be so many times that no one in their right mind would invest using Trump's tariff protections as a rationale. Back to Venezuela, if you're Chevron or Exxon or whatever, are you going to put $50 billion into Venezuela, hoping that you'll be protected, that there'll be stability, that the U.S.

government will have your back this whole time. Because I don't know where Trump is in two years. I don't know what, you know, is after Trump. So, so no president's going to say no to oil. I don't care, Democrat, Republican, or Independent. Bernie Sanders will be like, we're keeping the oil. We're not just going to fall this away. We're dropping it in the ocean.

That's bad oil. But as far as like the oil companies, their shit's already there. They were in business there. And the Venezuelans nationalized it, aka, turned to communism and stole all of the Derricks, oil rigs, equipment, what have you, from those oil companies. So I'm not saying they can move in and just turn the switch on and start filling their barrels. But they're at least a third of the way there to do in that. It was already facilities.

You don't have to be perfect. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Would you fall with 80s? Post Chavez, I think. I know we had like George W had big huge beef with Chavez. And then I always theorized that we shot Chavez with that cancer gun because I just don't

believe world leaders just whoopsie Daisy. got stage four cancer all of a sudden, and I had no idea. I think that they would have caught it, but we hit him with the cancer gun and took him out. I strongly believe that. I think the CIA has a cancer. But I don't know when he died. So you're saying it was in the last 10 years? Hugo Chavez died in 2013.

Okay. So you think it was after Chavez? The nationalization of the oil stuff? I don't know when that happened. I have no idea where that happened. Oh, it was the 60s, I believe. Oh, okay. So that stuff's old.

You probably need to start fresh. well yeah i don't know what you know enough about the oil business i learned i got most of my oil business information from landman and billy bob's known to spin a yard yeah that might not be the best source but that i mean 50 years ago yeah this is this is all going to be outcome dependent if we get what we want if we deprive our enemies of resources if we strengthen ourselves geopolitically and weaken our rivals huge win if it creates an enormous migrant crisis and there's uh a huge amount of investment needed to maintain it, then it's going to be looked at retroact. Private investment.

I had it in my head, China was in there doing it the right way. China was like, look, we'll build your refinery. Tell me where I'm wrong, because I might be. China was building their refinery. They were building their infrastructure. They were trying to create this oil thing. They were selling them, you know, anti-aircraft shit that barely worked. But at least they were like partnering and doing something that Venezuela wanted to do.

They weren't in there decapitating the leader. We go in there. We kill 80 people. We steal their leader. We'd trump up some charges. If Trump ups and charges, the charges are real. Some of the charges are literally dropped. The thing about him being like this narco-terrorist cartel,

they made that shit up and they dropped those charges already. Some of the charges were acquiring fully automatic machine guns for their own army. Jesus fucking Christ, right? That's what I'm at when I say Trump up charges. So anyway, we make up some charges and maybe there's some real ones in addition to those. We take off their leader. We're not doing it the right way.

We're not partnering in some kind of win-win. We're creating a win-lose. And that shit's always temporary. Not with Maduro, but if you're talking about the Venezuelan, if you're talking about the Venezuelan people and you care about them, we are doing it a much more positive way. China doesn't give a fuck. China sees another communist country and goes, yeah, we'll invest here and we'll use it as a stronghold.

We'll build military installations. We'll build landing zones for planes, this and that. Imagine if Great Britain put a fucking warrant out on Donald Trump. They came in, they fucking arrested him on pedophile charge. They took him back to London, and they were going to try him for pedophilia. And now J.D. Vance is the president. That doesn't change any of our oil deals. You know what I mean?

Like now, J.D. Vance. And the rest of the, the whole system of cards is still there. The entire government is still there. The mechanism is there to pump the oil, market the oil, and export the oil. We're not going to like, again, take their oil barrels and put them on aircraft carriers and literally steal them. We're going into business with them. This is like when the mob comes in and roughs you up a little bit and says, now we work. Now we're partners.

Well, that's literally what it is. I think there's a lot of assumptions going on here, though. Like if it's the case that this move provides stability and prosperity for the people of Venezuela, like you said Taylor a moment ago, there was hyperinflation in that country. And, you know, apart from the political reform. he was doing, you know, imprisoning and torturing dissidents, murdering people. He inflicted a lot of economic pain on that entire country. And so if those people feel like a tangible benefit, then you can imagine like a really strong pro-US sentiment.

If that happens, if it devolves and if it becomes destabilized, you could easily see a strong anti-Western, anti-United States, anti-imperialist movement forming. And then that could potentially bleed into other countries in the region. Again, we have seen this exact story play out in different regions in the country or different regions in the world. And dictators have several times throughout history. But this is a democracy that had been this is a democracy that had been held hostage by a dictator. And it still is just to be clear. Now it's a democracy being held hostage by a dictator's regime because that vice president was not duly elected.

Well, no reason. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just asking. No reason because they had elections and elect their president. No, no, no, no. The when. I'm just trying to, like, in my head, if they were a democracy in the 50s, well, then that's hardly relevant. If they were a democracy like 10 years ago.

Well, I mean, yes, they are. Maduro stole the election. That's what happened. It would be like, that's not democracy. They are a dejure democracy, but not in a democratic structure, but he's not the fact. So maybe the leader before him was an honest democracy? No, that would be. Well, that was Maduro and then Chavez was prior.

Did Chavez legitimately win the vote? I don't know about, I don't know. I thought he did. I know he was first. Yes, he did. Here's what I know about him. That guy was like super popular and like a man of the people. He'd go and like mix it up on soccer pitches with people and like he was singing and dance like

in public like he like I saw him at concerts like dancing and having a good time. That was definitely a popular. He gave away a lot of oil too. But they were. wildly prosperous. They were wildly prosperous for a time. They need to have new elections. What we should do to, it would make me feel 100% like the good guy on this is hold new elections

immediately and respect. Rubio said no. Rubio said that's not going to happen. Of course he doesn't because they've already got their puppets in the Maduro regime. If they weren't already in control and had them by the short hairs, then he would want an election so that they could steal it and, put in whoever they want. They don't want that woman because she might have American and Western ideals, but she doesn't want to play ball. We don't care if they're Democrats or dictators

as long as they dance to our tune. That is American policy. We love kings and dictators because they're easy to get to go along with American policy. Democracies change every four, five, six years, and all of a sudden you've got a new guy in there that you got to appease and deal and dicker with. That's just the way we play ball. But the right thing to do here would be to have elections. And then that woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize or whatever would become the rightful president.

And I bet she wouldn't deal as easily with us as the Maduro vice president. Oh, no. They're all going to, like that's why I feel like they should just have elections. Because it really genuinely doesn't matter who they have as president. They will bend to us. They will. because we just exhibited a use of force that even rivals like China and Russia are spazzing about. Like we just showed we run shit.

Like they whoever, let them elect someone. That's fine. They're still going to bend the knee. I mean, maybe that happens, but I feel like you're not fully appreciating the similarities between this and other times we've made that very same assumption. I only see similarities in the times we've been. done it and it worked out well in Panama. If the situation devolves, would you guys change your opinion? 100%. If a migrant crisis occurs, I will change my opinion and say this was an unforced own goal,

like 100%. But we would have to fuck up until that happened. It would be a fumble for things not to go our way at this point. And I kind of feel like he's eager to change the narrative. You know, he had a rough few months Donald Trump did. And I feel like this is, this is like his moment to try to shift that narrative around Epstein stuff was not going well for him. I think some of that is overstated, but it really was not going well for him. This is where I straddled the stream of political discourse and I feel like give some credence to my more extreme right-wing policies and beliefs and ideals because Trump's clearly a pedophile trying to get the news off the fact that Trump's a pedophile and they keep Dr. Epstein documents. I'm on board with all that. I just have to you just have to put everything he does in this little vacuum sealed bubble though and judge it on its own merits. You got to go out of it. Just because I agree with the left more often than you do,

I also feel like I look at everything individually. When Doge came along, I was excited. I was like, you know what? Let's find that inefficiency. Let's find that waste. Let's find that fraud. There are plenty of things Trump has done where I'm like, all right, let's see how this plays out.

I mean, I'm watching. It rarely has it played out well. But I just like you feel like I look at all these things in a vacuum. some things are good, some things are bad. Yeah, I'm not going to carry his water, but I'm not out to get him necessarily on something and make it something. It's not. Here's two headlines.

I just linked one of them. Yeah. Two people shot by federal agents in Portland, Oregon. Don't know what that's about yet. It's like super. That just happened? 7.0.3. Yeah.

But again, I need the video, right? Just like I was referring to a second ago, in a vacuum. Just because federal agents had to use their gun doesn't mean they're wrong. It's concerning. Of course. Yeah, I'd want to see it. I bet if I had to Nostradamus this went out, though, I bet they were attacked by angry left-wing protesters wearing black masks.

It makes me think that. Yeah, I bet there's some sort of frustration. If it was in Mississippi, it might have been some tiki torch carrying crackers, but it wasn't. So it's the, it's the Pacific Northwestern crackers with. They're Billy clubs, probably. But these are our shared biases. We'll see what the video shows. This other clip is in Honduras.

Congresswoman, this is a Honduran congresswoman. Gladys Aurora was, Lopez was struck with an explosive device at the Congress in Honduras. It looks like somebody threw a firebomb over the balcony. She's the vice president of the National Congress of Honduras. I don't really know what that means. I don't know what that means either. Yeah. somebody threw a fire bomb at her that was pretty cool never seen that how hurt is she uh she's a live minor

scratches and a possible skull fracture that seems all over the board some minor scratches in a skull you know minor scratch and a broken bone yeah yeah i'm getting my news from fish i apologize it's not that most reliable sources i guess yeah i hope it goes well in Venezuela. I'm all about America first in like almost every decision. I don't want to be the evil dictatorship bad guys, but I'm also very comfortable not

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on the point. Anyway, sorry, Kyle. What were you saying about the flag of Minnesota? Well, they changed the flag of Minnesota to be rather similar, I guess I would say, if I'm being fair, to the flag of Somalia. The flag of Somalia

is a blue background with a white star. It's It's like an eight-pointed star. There's a lot of points on the Somali star, to be fair. And the Minnesota flag is now a blue background with a white star on it. But it has fewer points. You have it reversed. The Somalia star has five.

And the Minnesota one has a bunch. But I looked at the Minnesota Wikipedia page. I guess they've been proposing flag changes since the 50s. And when you look at it from that lens, it feels like they've been evolving in this direction for a long time. Like here, Zach, if you could go here and scroll. First of all, I hated their old flag. Their old flag is representative of what I don't like,

which is like a lot of details of pictures. There's like, you almost have to zoom in. Yeah, yeah, it would be a better seal. With just with regards to Vexology, I like a simple one that a child could draw. I like the new one better. Yeah, this is the, kind of thing I don't like this. Some people like this more and maybe Taylor does.

But I like this. Yeah. Yeah. It was also. They also selected it partly because of a competition. And the guy who the Minnesota resident who designed the flag that inspired the new one says it had nothing to do with a Somalia. Oh, well, if they, if they, if they said that, who was it? The Wikipedia page. Mahmood, uh, fucking scroll down. Uh, no, the guy's name is like, Steve or something. Yeah, yeah. So here, look at the evolution. Hold on.

Give you the floor for a second. You're missing it. Zach is going to scroll down and show like, so that's the original flag. That one there that you can't see shit from top of a flagpole. And just as he scrolls, you see it evolving towards where they landed. This is from the 50s, the 60s. Here's a 2023 redesign. Oh.

These are terrible. They're garbage. I think a flag should. It looks like it's for a tuesdays. Campon company. Scroll down some more. This looks like a bad hotels look. Here we're a bunch.

Is the left one the one they landed on? Yes. Yeah, yeah, it is. It is. That's the one they landed on. To me, this is what a flag is supposed to look like. You're supposed to be able to see it while it's on top of a flagpole from a distance. It should be simple, recreatable.

Children should be able to draw it in a classroom. It shouldn't be that complex seal that they had before this. I disagree. Like Minnesota resident says Minnesota resident, Andrew Precker, that doesn't sound super Somali, submission to CERC's design contest, inspired the final flag design, and an email, Precker said his design drew inspiration

from the state's history and culture. Yeah, Andrew Precker. How so? What's the significance of the eight-pointed star for Minnesota history? The dark blue field is the shape of Minnesota. The light blue field represents the significance of our water to the state. The eight-point star represents the North Star,

which is also the state motto, Let toil de Nord. Zach, pull up the flags of Somalia. Hold on. And it's seen on the floor of the state capitol rotunda. That same star. Pull up the flags of Somalia

because it's very obviously a similar flag and they're doing it intentionally. But wait, are you saying that this is all just like a conspiracy? This guy, Andrew Pucker. I think he made a flag

that appealed to Somalis and Somalis voted for it in vast numbers. Even if the star itself is the literal same thing, Star is on the... Oh, yeah, he couldn't change the star. You know, he had to keep a Minnesota star, but

they also have a star. Well, but Zach, you have to show multiple flags because there's Somalilandand, and then there's... But wait, hold on. Is this guy... So is this guy lying? I've just seen some similarities. No, no, no, what I'm suggesting, even if...

Or, even if he's not in on the conspiracy, there clearly is one. Look at Galmandug. It was voted on heavily by Somalis because it looks just like their old flags. Yes, that's why they... want it because it looks like their old flag. Somaliland.

Look at that. I mean, Elan Amar isn't shy. She comes out and like in speeches. She'll speak in whatever language they speak there and be like, yeah, I want the best for Somalia. I want America to be a use base for Somalia. The flag of the Galmadug is the one that looks the most to me like the Minnesota flag. I believe that's where she's, or maybe she's from Somaliland. No, that's where her brother's from.

Because Puntland, I think that's the South. Precern and the New Minnesota flag is no connection to Somali. I looked at the other U.S. state flags for inspiration, but did not look at other countries or territories. Any similarities people want to see are coincidence. The 8-point star and the Minnesota flag differs from the five-point star in Somalia's, in which each point refers to the five historical regions inhabited by the Somalis. So you think that the new Minnesota flag, serendipitous, landed on a design remarkably similar to the new ethnic enclave that had been

systematically imported since 2008. I think there's a bit of Occam's razor going on here. It could be your vast conspiracy or it could be... No, no, no, it's not a conspiracy. It shows the same star. It's that there's a new... Well, this guy would have to be lying about it. Big population.

I bet there were a lot of flags to choose from and the people voted for the one that looked the most like the Somali flag. I think that's what happened. Well, I think... What I was trying to show is the flags have been trending in the street. direction since the 50s. And that's a bad thing. Flags are getting uglier.

That is a thing. Flags are definitely getting uglier and more. 100%. Yeah. The Uber simplified flags. I miss the old Georgia flags. Not a fan.

I think it's, is it Romania? Rookie understanding of what flags. They're not pictures. It's not the Mona Lisa. It's a flag. No, it is pictures. That's a banner.

It's a banner that needs to be easily identifiable. That you can't see on top of the flag. Like, what is it? Is it Romania? It shouldn't even have flags. Is Romania the flag that I fucking love? Is it that red with the black dragon? I mean, look at it.

I think it is. No, no, no, no. That's not Romania. No, Romania is a good flag. Remedia is one that gets my thumbs up. You're talking about that Northumbrian flag? What percentage of Minnesota do you guys think are Somali? It's a very small percentage of Minnesota.

It's a decent percentage of Minneapolis, though. Wales. Wales has a good flag. They have a dragon. It's, uh, it's, 2% of the state. So yes, they are hypermajorie like they're they're all in Minneapolis like it's it's too percent of the state significant but how could 2% of the state have that much like influence over the state flag? I don't think that anyone else cared about what the state flag was going to be and they probably didn't turn out in droves.

My my theory is that the Somalis turned out in droves to to vote for a flag that looked just like their homeland's flag. well yeah you'd probably just look up what are they might have paid they might have bribed people with the two billion dollars they stole from taxpayers with their front with their oh it's up to ten now brother 10 billion waltz had to drop out of the race because of the embarrassment of that whole thing and the white house is accusing him of at the very least turning the turning a blind eye to it and perhaps being involved with a criminal conspiracy which is a probably not true you don't think white house just station shit all the time. I don't know how I feel about this. I sometimes I like that the Democrats,

if they do anything, even bordering on wrong, they're cooked. They're fucking fried, right? Al Franken pretended to grope that woman through her grope-proof flag jacket and she's gone, he's gone for the rest of his life. He's out of politics no more. Donald Trump literally rapes multiple children and they circle the wagons around him and he's, you know, Scott Free. He's the leader of the party. It makes me think there's a good party and a bad party. On the other hand, I'm like, we are the party of no balls. You put one scratch on Tim Walls and he drops out of the race. Yeah, that was a bit straight. I don't think it's a scratch. And can I say like over saw billions of dollars of fraud? It's a light day in the Trump family. So yeah, but I don't know how close that

race was. But this isn't just Minnesota. It's this same playbook of scams is also being uncovered now in California, New York, Ohio. That sounds terrible. They need to fix it. Just like I love Doge, right? Like if they're finding, you know, what was it, Department of Government Efficiency? Yeah, well, they were looking for waste and fraud.

I think that was the two words I was searching for. If they find waste and fraud, I mean, get it. Put them in jail, lock them up. If government officials were involved or even just aware, lock them up, not for it. But, you know, I don't know. know. I guess I like the Tim Walls is gone as I process it in my head, right? Be the right, do the right thing. But I can't help but feel like one party does the right thing and the other

party circles the wagons. I disagree there. We're on the same page 100% with fraud. Like that that's been an annoying thing to see. And Hutch, I know you deal with the far left so much more than we do because you're always getting fucking razzed by those commies. But I don't know how, fraud became partisan where it's like if a bunch of white people doing this in West Virginia, I would equally want

whatever politicians oversaw that locked up. Fuck you. You're stealing our money to buy votes from new populations of immigrants. Like, fuck you.

Shut this down. I feel pretty plugged into like left wing politics. I'm not saying anybody insisting that like fraud be tolerated. I've never. Oh no, it's not fraud.

It's just a frantic defense of Somali. because a lot of these far left people see everything through the lens of race. And so they see brown people and they go, they must be the victims, even though they're the perpetrators in this instance. And so they have a frantic desire to be. But I'm not. Oh, no, you're not like that.

Of course. No, no, no. I'm saying I'm not seeing that. I'm not saying people say like, oh, leave the Somalis alone. Oh, I've seen a lot of it. Yeah. Yeah, from people on the far left. Not like you're more neoliberal, I guess.

that they're i don't know i i i worry that it's just i never believe anything on fucking twitter it's 60% bots you know like i where the locations with a real hidden locations that of these comments that you're seeing it from it's designed to stoke division reddit you can is not defending somalia i'm on reddit a bunch and they're definitely not pro fraud pro samalia or any of that shit i mean i mean it's a bit like it's a bit like it gets It's a bit if you when you look at the fact that Donald Trump has pardoned multiple people of like significant fraud. Like literally three weeks ago, Donald Trump pardoned somebody who was, who had done a Ponzi scheme. After his wife, after his wife went to a donor dinner and paid $100,000 for a ticket to go to a donor dinner.

Yeah, inexcusable. That's that's that's bad. Kyle and I are not Trump sick of fans. Like we're, he does horrible things all the time. And if anything, the biggest problem to me with Venezuela. and all that intervention is that it's not like we're not focusing domestically. Like we focus domestically. Outroot like get rid of this fraud.

Force voter ID. Actual mass deportations not deporting 300,000 people every year. Get fucked. That's ridiculous. You won't even remove 10% of the people that the Biden administration brought in illegally at this rate. Like stop it. Like he's, it's been a nepped for the most part.

And that is my criticism. he's not doing the things he's Trump only cares about fraud if Democrats are responsible sure yeah yeah he he definitely because also this fraud is being discovered in Texas as well in huge numbers but it's a different

form of fraud so it's this thing where Indians come here and they get what's called an SBA 7 or an SBA 8 loan that's a government backed loan that gives them $5 million to buy a business and they buy a franchise of McDonald's

or something for $5 million. The previous person's like, this is great. This is all government back, so it doesn't matter. It's five year, no interest. And they buy that. And then they say, we can't find employees. We need more Indians. That's why, like, the McDonald's near me got bought by an Indian guy with an SBA 7 or SBA 8 loan, I'm sure.

And then now every employee there is Indian. We severely underestimate the nepotism of Indian people. and that's a problem right now with Woody, you know this. They're not looking for the best people in tech. If an Indian guy gets made hiring manager, he's looking for other Indians. He's expanding H-1B to try and get them.

And that's really fucking bad for Americans. And even like fucking Elon Musk defends this horse shit because he's in tech. It's anecdotal experience, but it seems like everyone but Americans tend to like create their own clicks. Like, I'll do it this way. In sports, Brazilians root for Brazilians.

Americans root for their favorite fighter. Might be Brazilian, might be American. Lots of guys were rooting for Silva over Chal Sun. And it was like 50-50 in America, but it was 100 to zero in Brazil. And you take that same mindset and apply it to, like, my experience at Cisco, Indians were kind of a pro-Indian click. And Americans were kind of a pro fairness, you know, talent. level click and it created what sometimes felt like an uneven playing field.

Sure. White people really underestimate the intensity of ethnocentrism from populations we import and other groups because I think there's a lot of white people that are super familiar with ethnocentrism. But like, yeah, Hutch is right. There are white people who definitely are right. I mean, America's literal superpower is our ability to attract really intelligent people who have come here and innovated and traditionally significantly contributed. Yeah, we want them. We don't want the entry level guys, though, like squeezing out the market of our entry

level guys. Like Taylor said, they should put that limit on that H-1B visa at 300,000. The bottom should be $300,000 income jobs. Because anybody who's in India who's worth $300,000 to a company in America, I want here. That's a fucking go-getter. I bet he's doing three people's job at least. Get him over here.

He's either the greatest manager motivator or he's an innovator or he's just a demon on the keys. Can I lay that out for Hutch? So you may not have heard this. Taylor said something that I thought was genius. He says H-1B employees should be invited here, but their minimum salary should be 300 grand. Because the reality of H-1B, something I'm pretty familiar with because I worked in tech for so long, is that they bring over tons of people and they have them at lower wages. H-1B is a visa that's tied to your employment.

So you can't change jobs. If you change jobs, you get deported. You might know this, but I'm talking to the listeners too. And so if you change jobs, you get deported, that severely impacts your ability to say negotiate a raise. So even if you're not an H-1B employee, you're competing with those that are and it suppresses wages across the field. Taylor's idea, make them, if H-1Bs are supposed to be filling this talent gap we don't have here, they're supposed to be the best and the brightest, these exceptional,

people make it so they all have to earn 300 grand then if you're paying them 300 grand they truly are curing cancer tech geniuses advancing the state of AI they're they're the go-getters they're the guys who bang the prom queen bring them over we want them here what we don't want here is everyone who would otherwise answer the phones for my internet's out kind of problems displacing american workers. I should be more concerned about Indian H-1B visa holders or AI getting rid of these entry-level

jobs because H-1B I don't know. I don't know I don't think AI is going to be able to program like someone's always going to have to check its work you know like someone's always going to have to be there checking they haven't gotten AI to do that like I see it doing

I see it like filing court briefs and just making up precedence and stuff until they ironed that out you can't trust it to do like on mass things that the age the next time. Did you see that? Sure. I mean, the future may like cripple every world economy and essentially make us have to have a universal basic income.

That's a potential future of AI. That argument felt like what aboutism? I don't mean to be a dick. But like, you know, but what about AI? No, no. No, I'm just saying like what should I be more concerned. You should be in fact. You should be in fact.

If I'm an entry level more concerned about H-1B. Way more because they are defrauding our immigration system to bring as many people from India as they can here because they are, as we said, super ethnocentric.

White people in America don't understand the level of ethnocentrism that Indians have. They want more Indians in their place of work. And what that does is it depresses wages for Americans. Tell about the hotels, Taylor. Tell what the hotels did to the American hotel system.

they have ruined just the Patel family owns like 70% of the motels in this country because they're so incestuous with their business practices they make the pay for their maids and

the people that work there like as shitty as possible conditions as shitty as possible hire no one import people with their H-1Bs have them work in that motel until they can get another motel and then the cousin's going to run that one. And the Patel family rinsed and repeated that until they owned the American motel like, like, you know, they owned like 70% of this before. But the first as a guy who

stayed in what I am sure is more $65 a night hotels and three of you combined. I'm like, yeah, this rigs so heck and true. Like, absolutely. I've stayed in a lot of Patel hotels, I'm sure, or motels. I like them. You can park your motorcycle right outside the door. If people come into the country through legal means and they respect our liberal democracy and pay their taxes and they don't commit crime, why am I meant to care about? Like what's- Gotta assimilate. Assimulation means not feeling like if a bunch of Indians or a bunch of Somalis or people

come here in a block a huge amount, they're not going to assimilate. They're not going to see themselves as American. They're going to see themselves as Somali Americans. Well, I think like, I mean, like you can look at it. American, American Hispanics have Laraza protests. The race. The race is what Laraza means. They say that is an ethnocentric race protest.

Like these groups are very racially aware. And in order for us to assimilate them correctly, we need to bring just super high skill like Woody and I have said and they need to be made to assimilate and part of assimilation means if you move here and you're Indian and your high skill

you don't just hire Indians. I have to marry a white person. You have to marry a white lady, you must. Would that solve the whole thing? Actually that would, we would have so many more applicants. Yes, sign me up. I love

Bob Zan Vajin. Have you ever seen a white woman just try to exist in it? Sorry. Are you principally opposed to like St. Patrick's Day? No. Yes.

Yes, I am. But what's the difference between you're the fuck out of here with that? What's the difference between like? Something like St. Patrick's Day and somebody saying La Rasa. If, I think that's a ludicrous comparison.

But the third comparison is Siko de Mayo and St. Patrick's Day, first of all, because the St. Patrick's guys are drinking green beer and dressing up like leprechauns and hey and end up shying and the brown people are screaming

our race, our race and burning cars and usually wearing a mask it's kind of scary to me. It's very different but also like if a no I don't think we are I think we are I don't think so. You've never seen this the Saturday parade. People like

intimidate a brownish. People make intense efforts to get to the United States because they fucking love America. I mean like no they don't. No, they're A lot of them come here because they're, they want economic benefit. It's not because they love it. I don't think they come here because of our welfare system. I think they come here because of our opportunity.

And I think the hell thing is an example of that. Like, they're not on a welfare system. It's an opportunity-based thing. And also the assimilation, I give them a pass because I am, I think it's their kids who get assimilated. If I went to France, I'd probably be American until I died. But my kids would be French. well, this is pretending I was younger.

And that's like kind of how I see it. I have a friend, he's pretty Chinese. He calls himself a banana because he's yellow on the outside, but he's white on the inside. I guess that's a thing that age you say. I have a couple of people. You say that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So I, to me, it's like, so these Somalians who came here in the last 15 years seem really Somalian right now. Sure. I get that. But I bet their kids have an accent that's indistinguishable from everyone else at school. Well, Somalia is a totally different story. I don't think any number of Somalians benefits America.

The average of Somali is like 68. It's crazy. Like, don't, we don't need Somalis here. They're not productive. They're taking much more than they provide. I want those people. I don't know that we can generate. One percentage of Somalis can read, Hutch.

I bet the percentage of Somali Americans that can read is close to 100. And I think it's important to remember that. When people immigrate here, It's like the self-selecting cream of the crop. It's the ambitious people who uproot everything about themselves and chasing opportunity. So in general, the people that immigrant are often the better ones. I disagree with that. I agree with your, the ideal perspective you have.

I have the same belief that if we're going to bring immigrants in, it better be a fucking genius. Like, it better be someone fantastic. I was coughing. If we're going to bring what? If we're going to bring immigrants in, they need to. to be fantastic. They need to be $300,000 a year people. What harms us is when we bring in entire ethnic enclaves and put them in somewhere localized like Minneapolis of a bunch of Somalis. And then now, what's the incentive to become American when all of your neighbors

are still Somali? Like there's no incentive. And these people also disproportionately take huge amounts from the government. And so it's just fiscally not good for our country, like to import dependent populations. We want the winners. We want the elite. We want the tippity top. I don't care if they come from India or China or wherever. We want the tippity top.

We don't want dependent people. I'm going to make a pitch to Hutch. Hutch, I've had this idea. And you know my politics are closer to yours than to Taylor's. But I've often thought that countries like America are strong when they're more like homogeneous, right? I'd rather have a melting pot than a salad is an argument that I've heard made. And when people come in and create Chinatown or Little Italy or whatever it is and they don't, you know, sort of blend into the rest of the country, then I feel like we have a country that has the potential to get divided.

And, you know, take Iraq, right, where they had like three different religions and they kind of considered themselves different than the other people in that country, it makes them more prone to a civil war. like Yugoslavia, right? You know, I don't know what makes a Croatian so different than a Serbian, but they see themselves as different, and it makes it more prone to a civil war. Whereas if we have a real melting pot, right, and I'm more than happy to take a Somalian in and melt them into the rest of America. But that doesn't happen when you create Chinatown. How would you feel if immigration policy considered density when they, when people were choosing which part of America they moved to? Can you ask that question again? Sorry, what do you exactly ask you?

What I was trying to say is like, let's say an Indian wanted to move to a place where there's Little India. And they're like, no, no, no, no. Little India is full. We need to put this Indian in Minnesota. Nebraska. There's not so many. Nebraska, right?

So you need to go to Nebraska because we want to make sure that we have a melting pot and we can't put you in Little India. Do you like this idea or tell me what's wrong with it? I mean, my experience, I've, you know, I've lived in Los Angeles for a good chunk of my life. And obviously, this is very, very ethnically diverse. But I mean, California is wildly diverse and we're the fifth, fourth largest economy in the world. I mean, that we've become this incredibly multi-ethnic country. And look at us.

We are the richest, most prosperous, most powerful country in the history of nations. So like, it doesn't bother. It just doesn't bother me. Like, I don't know that. All that's true. All that's true. And I bow down to the California supremacism. see, I've looked at the figures and it's mind-blowing.

My only question would be, and I don't know the answer to it, if you took Silicon Valley out of the equation, where would California be then? Would they be a middling state? Or was that just a cherry off the top of their global economic supremacy? Because they're like the sixth or seventh largest economy on the planet. Oh, no. They'd be,

does that make my point for me, though? Because I thought there were a ton of immigrants that are fueling Silicon Valley. Sure. But I think the originators are a bunch of white guys in garages, though. I think I think Silicon Valley has a significant immigrant working population. Now it does. So like that feels like you're making my point for me. I mean, like I'm not seeing the downside.

I was more asking about like the economy of California. They will like in Silicon Valley, I think they were a huge defense contracting state. And I'm not positive I'm right on this, but I always thought that when the Cold War ended and the California military contractors needed to pivot, Silicon Valley was created. Does that sound right to anyone else? I think you're right. Yeah. I don't know. I know San Diego is that massive naval port that everything kind of flows through and like training grounds and all sorts of stuff.

Are there a bunch of sharks in the water in California? Or is that not a risk? I don't think so. Are there? I don't know. Nobody swims in California beaches because the beaches are cold. The water goes from north to south in California, so you need to wear a wetsuit. Yeah.

I thought that cold is where sharks hung out. You're right. There's sharks. Yeah. Sharks hang out in the water. Well, I know that. Isn't Jaws in California, the surfing location? Was that in Santa Cruz or was it in Malibu maybe?

I'm not sure. I'm Googling it. I don't know. Is that a great white area? That's not a great sure there's whales. Yeah, we definitely have whales in the entire world that there's definitely been great white deaths off the coast of California. My dumb ass that's in kina in Hawaii.

Sorry. What am I thinking of what's the huge mavericks is what I'm going for this is going to I just want to say I do think I do think Taylor you underestimate how fucking patriotic like immigrants the median immigrant is like these people oftentimes are especially when we're talking about Spanish speaking. We were just talking about Venezuela, people fleeing Venezuela, people fleeing Cuba. By the time they get here, I mean, like you have a huge Cuban population in Florida that are super pro-Trump. I don't want to miss.

I'm super pro-Cuban. If you're an immigrant and you're assimilating and you love America and you don't, and you, if you're from Honduras and you move here and you love America and you move here and you love America and you enjoy the opportunity and you no longer see yourself as a Honduras American, you're just an American. you're just an American. You're not going to form a Honduras American group to try and get special ethnic privileges. Then you're just as American as anyone. Like that's totally fun. But we feel like Italian American groups and that doesn't really bother people, right? Yeah, I don't care for that. Powerless retards. And I don't like that either. You shouldn't be Italian American. You should just be fucking American. Assimulate. People wish they were white so bad.

Become waspy and then go to work and pay taxes. in the northeast where i grew up people identify as their like ethnicity so much more than they do in the rest of the country as far as i can tell yeah yeah yeah like if you were growing up in new jersey i think you'd very much identify strongly with your italian background but uh and it i don't know it it always seemed like they were american first and italian second and that's all that's a fucking patriot right there this is what i want only arnold switzerland Schwarzenegger level imports. Okay. This guy was a millionaire when he came over here.

He was already running multiple businesses, bodybuilding, selling some workout equipment, invested in real estate. Look at that. You think he's not proud to be an American? That's proud to be in American. You can't just buy that. It's in his size. That used to have sleeves on it, but he was too jack.

You can't have a shrinking population either. We need to bring the right amount of people. But I kind of feel like we could be recruiting like a sports. team and trying to get what America needs, whatever that is. We should be recruiting like a sports team where it's like there's an elite genius in Syria. Bring them. Why don't they want to come to so many geniuses? I mean, here's the problem, though.

Here's the problem with America that we're ignoring. America is only a huge step up in freedom and liberty and wealth if you're pretty poor. those geniuses and go-getters you're talking about can live anywhere in Europe they want places with longer life expectancies higher rates of happiness like however you measure that in every way superior countries

to ours except for military power and economic power but you could live a wonderful life in the south of France if you're one of these genius go-getters why go to New Jersey why because we'll incentivize actual That's where the pharmaceutical are indeed happens.

Some dreams money can't buy, especially when you're one of those genius go-getters that you want so bad. We want the genius go-getters, but the United States... Do you think Shohatani was going to play for a team that wasn't on the West Coast? The U.S. current immigration policy incentivizes net takers to come here. That's a huge negative. We don't want that. We want net makers. I'm not sure what numbers you're looking about.

The Cato Institute has looked into this many times, for example, and they came to the conclusion that the immigrant population is a massive boon to the economy, not a net negative. They also measured patriotism levels, and they said that they have, I'm just reading what I'm reading here. I know, that's just funny. Patriotism levels similar to Native-born Americans or even higher. Additionally, immigrants and their descendants exhibit more trust in American government institution than Native-born Americans.

However, there's a notable gap in patriotic attachment and civic knowledge between native-born citizens and immigrant citizens. So there's some nuance here. They take a tremendous amount from California and from federal assistance agencies in the form of housing vouchers, schooling, health care. It's a net negative. If some poor family from Honduras moves here and they're dependent on us, that's not the kind of immigration I want. If there's a genius in Honduras who can help our military in some way, I want him plucked out and brought here. You have an argument when you talk about like some wage depression at some income levels and some sectors, but every credible study that I've ever seen on the impact on the economy shows that immigrants are a net boon to the economy by far.

I disagree. They're a net boot for giant business and business oligarchs because they drive down the cost of labor. Yeah, they're great for the stock market. No, these are people that participate in their local economies. They spend money at local ma and paw shops. They prop up their local economy. They spend money. They're more prosperous than other countries here. So I want those that. They pay taxes. My only concern with this immigration. Your entire economy in California is buoyed by like six companies. If those all decide to move to Minnesota or Montana tomorrow, you guys are in tough shit.

They'd find they don't have the workforce. They'd bring them. They don't give a fuck. They just important. I don't, I guess I don't understand the argument. Yeah. No, no. I was going to like, you can.

Like they try their hardest to get less, California employees earn more. They try their hardest to put satellites in other places. I worked at one. And the Californians just don't move. They like it where they are. We saw some net moving during the COVID stuff, but then that reversed.

Like we had population decline, I think for two or three years. And now we're back in the, I think it was a bridge too far for a lot of people. Like how restrictive things were. Well, the difference is California's population. population is buoyed by immigration. And so like all those people, those Americans leaving,

it's not like they came back. They don't come back. That they were replaced by more people from South. Well, I mean, immigrants are Americans, right. If they're like real deal Americans, yeah. If you're like some scum- Kind of an American, are you? If you're like some, dude, if you're, if you got naturalized and you're like a first-generation immigrant and you're ripping off our welfare programs like in Minnesota, Fuck you. Denaturalize and get rid of that person. That's absurd. You show up in a country that was willing to accept you and to let you live here and then you defraud us. Go fuck yourself. I agree with you, but that was 85 people, right? Am I crazy? Am I way off? I don't know how 85 people could be 10 billion. It may have to be a million. No, no. It's way more than 85 people. It's a huge job. There were more than 85 daycares that got investigated with them. Yeah, I must be wrong.

I think we're on the same page with that fraud. I think we are. I want people to come here. I prefer if it's go-getters. But if it's just a guy who will work hard and naturalize and be patriotic, I want him too. We've got plenty of fucking room here. We're incredibly rich. I just don't like key sectors of our economy being replaced and ruined by vast swaths

of like copy-paste worker bees from the dregs of the planet. That's what I want to avoid. As far as those little scary-ass communities where there was a group of Arabs who moved in, like, to my neck of the woods back in the country. And they immediately formed a compound that was like set way back into some property. And they were always back there shooting guns off. So we all thought the worst, you know? Like, they didn't introduce themselves like, hi, I'm Samir. I love the target shoot.

I was on the Olympic team back in Lebanon. I am so happy to be in America. They had their ladies wrapped up pretty tight, you know, look like you were moving some furniture around, and they were always over there shooting guns off, and it was a little sketchy and scary. So I would- I would-

If you assimilate, like- Well, I think I would buy into, I would be more sympathetic to this if you demonstrated that, like, immigrants are more likely to commit fraud or more likely to commit crime, but every reputable study that we have on this shows the opposite. They are committing less crime, the native-born Americans.

so yeah I'm fine with that it's the illegal immigrants it's the people kind of like invaded because the native born Americans wait but which group which group is driving up the crime stats and making that possible what what what's going on what are you wait hold on what you said that sounded like you know exactly what I'm saying um regardless uh can address it can address it well wait hold on do you do you understand what I'm saying though. Like if you, if you could demonstrate that immigrants were here committing fraud at higher rates than native-born Americans, then sure, we could talk about that. But that's not, that's, have you seen data that I haven't seen? Yes. Yeah, we're watching $10 billion

of fraud happen in Minnesota alone. That's like one thing. I'm talking about, like, I'm talking about broad trends. I think the important thing with the crime committed by immigrants is whether they are invaders or immigrants, because we just call anybody who's here that wasn't from here an immigrant apparently. If you crossed over illegally, then I don't care at what rate you commit crime. Because if you commit crimes at a rate of 0.1%, that's one crime too fucking many for someone who's not supposed to be here in the first place. So I don't care what rate people who illegally come into the country commit crimes, because any rate is too many.

Any rate is avoidable. They've already committed a crime. They're here illegally. They should be removed. So committing crimes at any rate is no good. They committed a crime as soon as they got here, and that's the position of the federal government anyway. way. Their very passage into this country was their first crime that they are wanted for and

detainable for. And so any subsequent crimes are just extras on top that shouldn't even happen. So I don't care what rate they commit crimes. But people who come here, I believe that people who immigrate here legally are not very likely to commit crimes because it's so goddamn hard to come here illegally. That's a man who knows that a new paperwork. All right. He's going to love the DMV. Oh, so simple and straightforward. guy's grinding. He's filling out a bunch of horse shit. And then on the next page, he's like, I swear to God, I just said all of this fuck. I have to write it again because that's a paperwork. That's the doctor's office for me. Yeah. And so I don't think any of us here much hate

immigrants. We just want, or I just want them. My grandpa was an immigrant. He stowed away on a boat. They need to become American. You can't have, if you're going to be an American, you got to be a fucking American. You can't have loyalty to a previous country. You can't have this shit. Like, no, you're here now. You got to own it. I just... I always place myself in that position, though. Like, if you went to France,

wouldn't you still, like, identify as American a little bit, and it would just wouldn't be where your kids grew up? That kind of is the issue, isn't it? Is there is an inherent, an intrinsic loyalty to your own positive to France, even though you're like,

yeah, you know, I'm I'm French now, but I still have some American values I started with. And then your kids go to the French school system and they integrate more fully. And that to me is fine with it as long as they're not passing state secrets. You're going to have the second generation will have only stories of the homeland. And the third generation won't even hear about it. And they'll stop eating with their hands eventually because that's filthy. Dude, that's, you fucking barbarians.

Eating with their hands is fine. but that's for like sandwiches and chicken and things. Not true. When you put your fingers in your mouth too and then you like put it back in the communal ball, that is part of becoming an American. We don't do that. No.

Back in a communal ball. Is that a thing? Dude, in all of Africa. Yes. Yeah. They grab this like weird paste that's made of carbohydrates and they make it into a ball.

Is it? I don't know. I think terror is South American. but then they dip it in like a sauce paste and then they put it all on their mouth and then they suck their fingers off but then they go back to the the place where everybody was grabbing from my observation has been no communals they do a lot of what taylor said but not with commutable they all have their own little dipping stations have you guys try Ethiopian food by the way because it's fucking incredible is that where they like just bring you a big piece of parchment paper and it's a bunch of of things that looks like baby shit. It's not paper. It's a bed of, it's a bed of, it's like, it tastes like you went to eat you up your

restaurant. It tastes like sourdough bread, but the texture is almost like a sponge. And you take off portions of it and you pick up like really like heavily seasoned like chicken or beef or lamb. Is it meat heavy or is it vegetable? A lot of meat and it's like really kind of acidic. But it's the trademark is the signature. is this it right here? Yeah. That like that little

that little foundation of bread that the spongy bread is fucking incredible. Interesting. My mouth is like water right now. I'm not caring for the puddles of food that I'm saying. You get a little messy. You get a little messy but it's not Is this before they cook it? Can I roll this thing up and start eating it like a burrito? Will they frown on that? I mean no this is an Erica do what you want to do. It's like a tablecloth. I don't know. I ate Indian food surrounded by a bunch of Indians and I did it wrong and every one of them didn't care. They just thought it was an interesting

little case study on how someone who didn't know how non and goop was normally eaten. They're like, cause you made a taco out of it. Because it ain't that hard. Who did you do? I made a taco. Like I put the taco. I didn't know what I was doing. And they were all like, they were completely fine. Basically, yeah, yeah, with non bread. I didn't know what I was doing. And I found that my like one thing I really liked about my Indian coworkers was they were like. completely accepting. A lot of them had names that were hard for me. So they all just grabbed America.

What's your name? My name is Mark. Mark, sure. Your name is Mark. They're like, yeah, it's really some nine syllable, like consonant combination I'm not accustomed to.

Potabi, I went by Pat. He didn't give a fuck. Like they all just adopted American names that they were cool with or they were easy in the first place like a rule. I appreciate that too. That's been my experience for the guys too. That's part of assimilating.

I work with two. I worked with Somalians. It was two brothers and their names were Muhammad and Moses. They both went by Mo. They could have easily been. It's like, hey, tell Mo to get over here. His customers in. Big Mo or little Mo.

Fucking Big Mo. In America, if you call someone by the wrong name, it's kind of an insult. Even if you don't mean it, like, it's just, it's like, oh, this guy doesn't know my name. Like, he doesn't, like, see me. Indians, not in the slightest. You called them by the wrong name? They're like, yeah. Not even correcting.

Woody, meeting almost over because I saw a loose live wire outside. That is really tempting me. I must touch it. And after a word, there is a train at 215, and I must stand kind of in front of it and get fogged. Dude, have you ever seen a white woman just attempt to exist in India? Oh, they get groped so fucking, dude, these like live, laugh, love retards are like, I'm going to go to fucking India and see how it is.

And it's a bunch of guys being like, I want you're pushing our ticket. I don't know. I feel true, but Indian men are so sex-starved. A lot of women try to preserve, at least they used to, try to preserve their virginity until marriage. And my coworkers, like, dude, two of them took up art classes because there were nude models and they just get to see naked women and draw pictures of them and shit. They were starved of affectionate.

A smiley face is with big circle titties. I wouldn't even imagine if I were doing a bit about it. That you'd be like, yes. I go to it and I look at the pretty girls and that they are naked and I see how the tits. I don't even draw. I just jack off. I give myself an over-the-pants hand job.

in the that's that's one thing that we do have going for is made i'm sure female liberation is is global but all of the immigrants that i work with were all having this little bit of culture shock with like how the women were here like my my my Nigerian friend who's like a big handsome guy like oh i get so much cuckoo kail so much cuckoo more cuckoo than i can handle like that's that's awesome he's like i like to get the pillow and i'm like he's going to explain this whole thing. He's like talking about wrapping the pillow around her hip so he can use a pillow as like a device to pull her back into him.

And then my, but my Russian friend, he had the, or my Ukrainian friend rather, he had the opposite tape. He thought pussy was way too hard to get here. He's like, in Russia, you take the pussy. It is already yours. What the fuck, dude? It's just me and him in a car, like going to pick up another car from a sister dealer's And he says,

sorry for you American guys. So hard to get the pussy. You take the pussy. It is already yours. And I'm like, fucking sounds great, man. It's this one bitch. We're fucking her.

And she said, oh, Oh, Sergei, so good. It's not me fucking her. Dimitri fuck her now. And I'm just like, 19 year old male. Like, fuck, dude.

We get that Honda to your ship soon. Sergei must be, like John or Adam over there. The two Russians were Sergei and Dimitri. That was their fucking names. Again, one of them was Sergey was Ukrainian and Demetri was

Russian, Russian. Or Vladimir. Vladimir's got to be up there. Yeah, I had an Indian co-worker. This guy was really attractive. He was tall. He was like 6'4. And he was good looking. But more than that, like he was just stylish.

I don't know. Everything about him was like club ready, even at, you know, business casual. and I don't think he was Bowen girls I think he was just dancing with him and it was the greatest thing he's like he'd go out to these clubs everyone's rubbing against each other

and he was just absolutely digging dance club life well we can let those guys in as long as they assimilate and I think Hutch I think you mentioned Nigeria that seems like a country that or maybe Kyle that

I say Ethiopia I think food yeah Ethiopia food is rough dude but the Nigeria model, I don't see huge enclaves of Nigerians anywhere. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm misinformed. It seems like that's a country where we do a good job of like plucking being like, this guy's fucking good.

I don't know. Get him. Like not, don't let the wave in. Just grab the good guy. I don't know what we do. I don't know shit about Nigeria. I know that there are.

I know they're killing those Christians. Nigeria. You know, yeah. Yeah. I do have to feed my pets and my woman here pretty soon. Otherwise, she's going to get peckish and nipping me. But what we're, if you guys still watch movies, where are your top three movies for 2025?

I'd have to look at a list that came out. I don't feel like I watched movies this year. I watched Plooribus and I was disappointed. Did you see it? You know, I loved it. But like, it's a little slow. But I loved it. I just thought her performance hard carried that.

show. Like I just thought she was so brilliant in that role. I can't think of an actor that didn't do a great job. And I want to love it. It's like I was somehow excited every week that a new episode came out and then disappointed. And then my goldfish memory would have me looking forward to it next week. Yeah. I mean, I think the way they ended it was like maybe a little underwhelming, you know, I feel like maybe they could have done something else to set up like a maybe like a little bit more of a cliffhanger. Because I felt like that was kind of predictable where that was going. but there's nine episodes with three episodes worth of like plot advancement yeah it's definitely it's not for everybody it's never it's a little slow but i liked weapons like weapons a lot i like that that was

that was great yeah yeah movie in 25 i saw uh i thought superman was pretty good like i wasn't like pissing my pants or anything but i was like this is this is a good fucking movie this fun this fun i know a lot of people are going to say sinners but it really didn't do it for me I wish there'd been more music. I felt like that was its strong suit. It's pretty musical. They needed like a whole other like musical scene because Michael B. Jordan playing twins didn't do it for me. Like maybe I just didn't like his gold teeth or something.

Like it didn't seem a little wooden. So I, it's hard to play twins and I didn't think he pulled it off super well. I did like the vampires. I like that one Irish vampire singing the songs. I liked it. I could just use more music out of it. But it was okay. okay for me. I didn't like, I didn't love it. Oh, did you see the, I think it was 2025. Let's start a cult.

No, what is that? Comedy. No. Uh-uh. What is that? Yeah. It's basically about a guy who's a part of a cult. It's comedy movie. And he is so unlikable amongst his cult members that they send him on like little missions where they're like, hey, go grab us a bunch of ice cream for later tonight when they're meeting. and at one point they all do their ritualistic suicide but they don't like him so much they send him away for it oh okay and so then he comes back and everyone's dead and he's like what the fuck like I wasn't even included in the suicide I won't even get to the planet of Zinu with the rest of you like that sort of shit and then it's him

kind of traversing the rest of the planet it's a funny movie I liked it and I don't want a lot of movies but none of you guys are Avatar fans? I didn't like the first one. It didn't suck me in the first time I saw. And that was in theaters in 2009 or whatever it was. I've done like 20 minute long rants on this, so I'll cut it short. But basically my issue with the Avatar movies, I love James Cameron. I love everything he does. I wish he, like incredible stuff. I've always been a fan of James Cameron in his movies. He's got the only movie in the top five grossing all time that's not a part of a franchise. And he has most of the other which are a part of franchises with Avatar and Terminator.

Terminator. Aliens and all that shit. Anyway, I don't love the Avatar movies. I think they look fine, but I think the story is a little ridiculous. And mostly, I side with the humans when I watch it. I know that, like, I'm thinking, because to my eyes, they're there to get this unobtainium and to colonize this planet because things are shitty on Earth. And this isn't just about like America needing a little more oil, which I'm all for, by the way.

This is kind of about furthering our species. And like being a two-world species, this place seems perfect. It's got these superconductors that apparently work at room temperatures. We've got floating islands and stuff. It's got whales that make whale oil that extends human life almost indefinitely somehow. And unfortunately, we've got some 10-foot-tall blue Indian people that I feel need to be exterminate it to a man. I would make a biological weapon and I would that would be my move. I'd be like let's cook up something in the lab get the get the nerds on it. I want I want smallpox for for

blue people cooked up as fast as we can and then we need to be talking about drone-based dispersal methods. I want this planet reeking with the stuff like that would be my we wouldn't even make contact with them. We're not even in chat. We certainly wouldn't fly our helicopters low enough to be attacked by dragons. You know Trump knows how to fly helicopters. If the team that went into Venezuela went to Pandora, I promise you one thing, we'd be up to our ears in that unobtainium and

blue pussy for all. That's what we'll be happy. I think you underestimate the Navi. But you go to the, you don't go to Avatar movies for the fucking story, bro. You go for the visual spectacle. Like the third one, the third one is it is almost fucking comical. It is basically identical

to the first and second film. Like there are I mean literally, there are probably, I mean literally, there are probably Just smirfs again? Two dozen moments in the film that like beat for beat, like identical story beat. They're doing the same thing for the earth-based ones, the sky-based ones, the ocean-based ones. He wants to go to Earth. He wants to go to Earth.

If they let them make more Avatar movies, he wants to take the boot-to-le-to-ear-movies. He wants to take the boom people to Earth. He was worried that this one wasn't going to make a lot of money, but it ended up making a shitload of money. So I don't think that's right now. But yeah, I didn't think it was a great year for movies. I watched a bunch of, I like went back to the bench and watched a bunch of 80s stuff, a bunch of like Corman films, a bunch of like violent slashers from the, from the 80s and stuff, a bunch of 70s, noir stuff and like a lot of Gene Hackman stuff after he died.

I rewatch the, I'd never seen the conversation before. I watched that. I'd never seen. He was a legend. Look, unforgiven, man. He was so goddamn good. Yes. Oh, I could do that scene word for word.

I love Unforgiven. He's like, I don't serve this. That was really, really, really disturbing the way he died too. Because his wife was his caretaker and he had dementia. And apparently he was alive for like a week after she died. And couldn't take care of himself. It's horrifying, yeah. Yeah.

Anyways, I got to go, boys. Thanks for having to be on that note. Thank you for coming. We always enjoy you. Yeah, enjoy the chat, guys. Glad to see you guys are doing well. There's something comforting about like wherever you're at. You know, P.K. is still going to be doing there.

thing like 17 years has it been 17 years by the way or is it 16 years I wouldn't know I don't know I don't know you guys started I think of 2010 we caught literally have to be one of the longest running podcasts that exists in the world Joe rolling back truck in what was your podcast called host migration I think it was going back post migration you'll you'll take the record no I do a political I do a political podcast now that's the thing I invited you to come on to so I do a podcast for other guys or yeah four Four other guys, yeah. Oh, cool.

Who were the other guys? You probably wouldn't know them. Their names are like soy pill, Pisco, and I'm really important or the other. I'm really important. He's the guy that was in the fucking music video for Pretty Fly for a white guy. Do you guys remember that? He, now he does like TikTok debates with conservatives and covers politics. And sometimes he'll go to like the occasional.

offspring concert and show up and like show up on stage in front of thousands of people it's the craziest story it's so random that's terrific yeah i'm i'm watching the music video right now it's so funny that's the guy yeah i r i all right guys i got to go cheers see you have me on appreciate it bye bye uh yeah what i i think if you got into the smoking i i think you could it's so fun i this those port Tindleloins I'm making are so delicious. I'm eating them. And I cook pretty good food, usually. But I mean, I'm like, oh, I'm looking at my girlfriend. I'm like, you're not enthusiastic enough about this.

You need to perk up. She's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. That's more like it. It's more like it. It's my wife in bed. Can you fake enjoyment, bitch? Yeah, I'm so glad she got me that thing.

That's definitely the best Christmas gift I've gotten since I was a kid. I don't know why I don't enjoy cooking or ever got into it because I feel like a lot of other things I've been into have the same sort of reward system. You know, like, oh yeah, spend some time. Woodworking, right? It's just sort of making something with your hands and at the end you sort of get the prize of it, etc. Cooking is that on a shorter time scale. But for some reason, I never connected with me. Not yet anyway.

I didn't really start until I was like living all on my. on maybe at like 27 or something. I know whenever I was on probation, I think what I was just wanting to eat the most delicious things I could concoct because I thought I was imminently going away for five years or something. And so I was like, well, I could either spend $3,000 a week at nice restaurants so I could go to the fish market and get swordfish and, and try it for myself. And I got really into it after a while, just watching the YouTube content and finding some chefs online that I enjoyed that were not just good. information, but also, like, I like their personalities, and I'm, like, rooting for them in life and

stuff like that. The barbecue YouTubers are the most obese YouTubers that exist. They got gamers by a land slide. They got, dude, there's, it's called like the pit boys or something like that, and this guy comes on. And he, his face is, looks like a giant overinflated marshmallow. He looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger in total recall when he went into the marching atmosphere. He's like, welcome back to the pit boys. And I'm big back. They, we're making whips.

And I'm going to tell you one thing. We ain't trimming the fat. And they're, do-da-da-da-da-da-na-na-d intro plays. It's like, it's always the most facking awful for you shit. Like, they're positively feasting all the time. They've made their, they're smoking all that shit. They've made their obesity, their job.

And that can only end one way. With more obesity. Or death. With death. Yeah. Death after a lot of happiness. Eating whatever you want all the time. Brisket every day for your job.

Can you imagine? I don't think I've ever had good brisket. I don't we ever had it. I don't have ever had biscuit? No, my mom would ever cook something like that. That's crazy. Is that a Midwest cut? Is that something we do here all the time and you guys don't? My mom cooked what she knew and that was like 15 things and Brisket wasn't one of them.

So we didn't eat pork growing up at all. I'd never had a pork chop until I was a man grown. What? Yeah, she just didn't. Nobody in my family liked pork chops, so they weren't on the menu. That's insane. Like, pork is not quite chicken where you can, like, impart on chicken. And chicken is not quite meat, so I never fell down to the pork until recently with a smoker.

And I've discovered that it is the most succulent sweet of all the meats. And I'm looking at what it costs by a whole slaughtered pig on the internet. And it's more affordable when you might think. A whole pig? A whole pig. How much is that? Not money, like pounds, like amount of food. I don't know.

I know with a cow, it's like 14 or 1,500 pounds at like $6.50 a pound, roughly speaking. And you end up paying like several thousand dollars for a whole cow. And that's a lot of meat. That's years worth of meat. Yeah, that's your meat for the next two years. Yeah. And the same place that I was looking at for a cow while back does pigs too. And they do the same thing. You do like half a pig or a whole pig. And you can kind of mix and match what you get. So if you want more sausage or, you know, five legs or whatever the fuck, you know, extra hamhawks or lips or Ophill. Ophill is a new vocabulary word for me. I picked that one up last week in a Warhammer book. There was Ophill all over the ground after the massacre. It's organ meats and viscera. Up until then, I thought they were just awful with an accent.

What, what, Woody, does Jackie ever go pork tenderloin mode? Do you guys ever do pork or not really? I eat pork a lot. I don't know what kind of pork it is. It's shaped like. Probably a chop. It's a slab of pork. It's oval.

Typically. Is it super, super lean? No. Okay. I would say it's a little fatty sometimes. Okay. Probably chops. Better than we'd love.

I guess. You got to get Jackie, you got to tell her, babe, I want to try some of this pork tenderling deliciousness. I can ask her what she feeds me. I would guess

chops because if it were tenderloin there wouldn't be pockets of fat. It's very, very lean. Yeah, tenderloin is like the filet mignon of pigs, except it costs $3 a pound. It costs $3 a pound, and it's buy one, get one free. So that's $1.50 each tenderloin. And each one is enough to feed me and my girlfriend and then me another meal after that.

I woke up at 6 o'clock in the morning, Taylor. I grabbed that tenderloin, put it in aluminum foil with little apple juice and some Heinz 57, threw in the oven. through in the oven and the juices that came out. I love that. Oh, it is loin. Is that the good one, the cheap one? What am I getting?

Yeah, she may even remove the silver skin more carefully in the future. That's probably what you're getting a whole life. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's a skin on pork tenderloins that you have to remove because it doesn't cook correctly and it's like not fun to chew. Yeah. If you remove that and then cook. Fair.

I don't know. It's good. It seems. grew up with no pork in the house. I choose to believe it. It's the other white meat and not fatty and bad for me. It's not. It's tenderloin.

It's super lean. It's great for you. That's why it's such a great, like, juxtaposition to put the fattest part of the pig, wrap it around the leanest part and then cook it slowly. So it absorbs all that fatty, salty, beefy, porky deliciousness. It's so good. I said it in our group chat, but you've really become a maestro very right. Like you're very good at smoking.

I can't wait to try the picture you sent me. You didn't post it here for the audience to say, but that pre-cooked tenderline with the weave, very impressive. That looked professional. That looked like a fucking... Oh, like before it was cooked and it was wrapped up. Yeah, like how you wrapped it up. It looked like a chef did that.

It's easier than it looks. You know, I use like surgical gloves when I do stuff in the kitchen, so I don't mind the ickiness of like getting my fingers. fingers in all the little overlaps and stuff and getting it really tight. I didn't use any toothpicks either. I was able to like wrap it up and encase it entirely and weave it all back together. Yeah, that shit was, uh, it's literally one of the best things I've ever had. Like the only meals that I think are better than that was maybe like a veal

cutlet from an authentic Italian restaurant or like a top tier filet mignon that costs 50 or $60 or more than that now. at some like Morton's or some nice restaurant or something. This is only like third to things like that. It's so juicy and flavorful and delicious. I love it. Pork tenderlin is a cheat code for anyone out there. It's cheap as fuck.

It's delicious. It's lean. It's good for you. High protein low fat. Can't go wrong. Especially if you smoke it apparently because I wasn't as impressed with your cook. where you sent the, like, pre, until I saw the mid slices and I saw that slight bit of pink, which some people think that that slight bit of pink and pork means it's not done.

That is not true. Not true. You want that tiny, tiny bit of pink. 145 degrees, exactly. So as soon as it reaches 145 degrees, you get it out of there and wrap it in aluminum foil for 12 or 15 minutes before you cut so the juices don't run out. But it's going to be a rosy pink color. That's perfect pour.

Yeah, pork rules. I've become more pro pork with all my smoking over the past couple of years. Yeah, chicken's not as, chicken's not nearly as good. Like I said, I've never done brisket. That's the next thing on my list. I'm kind of, I think I'm done with tenderloins for a little while.

They don't have the buy one, get one for you right now anyway. I think the next thing I'm going to get is a, a brisket. What's your recipe? What are you, like, are you doing like the 17 hour long smoke? I haven't looked at the recipes. I've watched a couple videos and I've been on the smoking subreddit to see those guys and there's 16, 17-hour briskets and stuff.

I mean, I'm not opposed to that. I'm not opposed to doing the serving size. People who make brisket make like eight meals or something wild, right? 16 pounds is what a full brisket is usually. So I'm going to get a flat brisket. I'm going to try to get a flat brisket, but they keep being sold out at my grocery. store and that's more like two or three pounds. It's like the smaller end of the brisket. I think the

brisket goes from large to kind of the smaller end. And that's going to be like the perfect size for a couple of meals. But I'm not going to get a 16 pound brisket because I just, it'd just go to waste. If I feasted for three days, there's no way I could put away 16 pounds of brisket. What are you going to put on the flat brisket? I think just salt and pepper. Like after looking on the internet, I'm probably just going to do salt and pepper and, and let it ride. I, Everybody on the internet seems to be just fine with salt and pepper. And I've never had brisket before. So I'm going to have no bar to measure it by.

If it's the flat of the brisket you're doing, you're going to knock through that in three hours. Like that'll cook. Oh, in cooking time? Yeah. If it's just flat. Yeah, I don't know anything about doing beef in there. A long, long time.

I've smoked cheese in there. I'm going to smoke a cobbler in there. I saw people talking about that. And I'm going to. A cobbler? A cobbler, do a smoked blueberry cobbler, and I'm going to do smoked mac and cheese. I want to do this thing where you take like the really big pasta tubes and parboil them, and then you open them up and stuff them with pork and cheese and wrap them in bacon and smoke that.

And you create these little delicious cigars. Well, that sounds fantastic. That sounds delicious. Yeah, I told my girlfriend, I'm like, you know, you really got to show more. enthusiasm for these meals. Like I'm over here eating these fondant potatoes. And I'm like, God damn, I've never had a potato this good. I've mastered the fondant potato.

And she's just over there sort of picking it. I'm like, if I took this to our neighbors, I'll tell you right fucking now. There'd be a Google location above this house that said Kyle's Fancy Bistro. And it'd be full of good Yelp reviews. You better fucking show some enthusiasm over there. God damn it. This took five hours. It took five hours.

I slaved slash looked at my phone every two. You have 40 to check the internal temp. Yeah. Wait, do you have the phone app or not have the phone app? I'm getting mixed signals. I have a digital thermometer readout that I use where I put a probe in the meat and then I have a physical little thing. I don't want to deal with connectivity issues of phones and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth that I've

never seen a product that was 100% with that. So I just have like a standalone thing. And it shows me the ambient temperature and internal temperature. So as soon as it's done, I literally just take it off. There's recipes, pardon. Does it beep? It should beep. You can make it beep, but I'm sitting there watching it intently as I like scroll the internet or watch TV or something.

I'm usually starving by the time something's done smoking. So I'm pretty hard scoping it. Okay. Yeah. We should have asked Hutch what games he's been playing. Yeah, I wonder. I'm still in my Arc Raiders thing. I might switch away soon.

We'll see. Art Grater must be huge because in my group chat with my buddies, like almost every night now they're like, who's arcing tonight? Like everyone's playing that game. Yeah, I think your brother plays. It's the third game right now,

I think on Steam. Counterstrike and maybe Dota or something is bigger League of Legends, I forget. And then Arc graders. Do you want to play another shooter? Are you just open to? I think so. I think I'm in a shooter arc.

Dude, I'm in the aim trainer five days a week at this point. I'm like, I'm doing my best. You got to do? It's Tarkoff, Tom. Tarkoff 1.0, you know, full release. You know what? I haven't played it and I haven't talked to any.

None of my boys are playing it, so I don't know this for sure. But just I'm imagining that now that it's 1.0 and it's on Steam, they got a huge influx of new players. And it's not as full of like crusty old bastards that are going to be evil to you. Like maybe Tarkov got nicer. if not for a brief time. That to me is like the pinnacle of fucking shooters, though. Like if you don't want like the CSGO rinse and repeat,

let's play search and destroy shit, if you want like that kind of intensity, it's, it's there. I don't know. I might do CSGO next. I don't like, well, I haven't even played it. I just downloaded it. But I've like practiced and watched.

It has these weird movement mechanics. You know how when you move, typically like a bloom will get bigger. It'll go somewhere in that bloom. in this game it doesn't show the bloom but it does have like tracer rounds and your bullets just don't go where you aim them unless you counter stray very effectively which is like if you're going right and then you go left and you time it just right there's a moment where you're not moving and if you fire right on that moment then your bullet goes right where you expected to and that's a big like skill ceiling type thing to work out but I'm like man I'm not used to bullets not going where you aim them that I don't know if I like that But we'll see. I'll play it. I've always been hesitant to even dip my foot into CSCO. I mean, I've played a few hours, but it was clear that everybody else has been doing these same maps and this same gunplay in this system over and over forever.

It would be like getting into Search and Destroy Cod 4 when we were at the height of doing that. I played that shit eight hours a day. I know what I mean? Like I'm throwing grenades. You can't imagine. I've had that fear. But I also have, there's a couple people who are very, very good who would like to. like be my Sherpa.

And that helps me get started. Yeah, yeah. The people who are good at it are good at everything, too. Like, it seems like the people came from that game. It was like, it was like having a wrestling base for MMA. Yeah.

It was like, this is it going to help you in years of war. It's going to help you to escape from Tarkov. It's going to help you in Arc Raiders. This is a core skill, this clicking on heads thing. Right. Like cod people,

I find, are pretty good at, like, tactics and setting up the gunfight to their advantage. manage. I had another. Oh, Fortnite people are really good at the movement, but Counterstrike people are good at aim, and that translates to every shooter. Yeah. I wonder if you wouldn't want to get into a more casual game, like Sea of Thieves. I always love that so much. Or even Rust, I always say, on like a casual server where it's mostly building. Like, they're a servers where you can just dick around and roll play and hunt animals. And there's always fun ways to have fun and Rust. I'm definitely going to be in an RTS mood when these

these next few Warhammer games come out like that love to hear that yeah I we're going to be playing some of that game together yeah I'm psyched for it actually comes out RTS but my penis is too big I'm glad you guys like it Fitts RTS is a top genre

for dumbasses and that's that's fair Like you have to be able to think about a bunch of things at the same time, your economy, your manufacturing, your infinite production. Dude, I think I unintentionally trained myself to be good at every RTS or decent at most RTSs via the hotkeys I've learned for AEOE over the past few years. Like I never would have imagined that I would be as quick on a lot of. lot of this stuff as I am and that's because I do I don't do WASD I do

left ring finger on Q and then W and then D so it's like so on top one the bottom I've never played a Mova game until recently Mova's like League of Legends and Dota 2 and stuff and that game is also very complicated at a level I don't understand but like as you kill people you get stronger and then being stronger lets you kill more people and it kind of snowballs into success. And there are like three lanes that you kind of have to watch, but you can abandon your lane, go to the store, buy some upgrades, get back in your lane, stuff like that. There's a moba shooter called Deadlock coming out.

I played a couple out. I have like six hours in it. And it's supposed to be like the next big super game. Steam has made the most popular shooter of all time CSGO. They made the second most popular Mova game of all time, Dota 2, I think. And now they're making a shooter moba. And it has the marketing force and expertise of steam behind. It looks like a good.

And I'm in this little invite group. It used to be hard to get an invite. It's not anymore. And I've been play it before it comes out. I play this game. And I'm like, I did pretty well, right? I clicked on heads all game long. I won.

Like, I feel like I made a difference for my team. And I'm playing with my friend who's the one who's so good at every game. And he's like, Woody, don't let your performance. get you down. Everyone starts somewhere. Like, do not hang your head low at what you just did in that game. And I'm like, what I? I thought I was kicking ass. And I look at the leaderboards that I did not kick ass. I was a figment of my imagination. And he's like, even I took a while to get the hang of this game. And he has a really high Elo. But he says that he's not a really smart player. He just mechanically really good because he's the CSGO genius who first plays.

an aim trainer right now is freaking ridiculous he he never liked aim trainers always hated it then i got into it and he's like well i i guess i'll check it out and now he just sends me leaderboard screenshots all the time one three like like this outrageous i'm like so your rank is one does this make me 300 times better than you because my rank is way higher anyway uh yeah so after we play rounds of this new game he tells me not to get discouraged and I was the opposite of that I don't know I guess I would be so shitty you feel like you're banging on all cylinders and then someone's like don't worry about it we all have tough time and it's like that was my absolute available pass like but is it the shooter I'm looking at it's called deadlock deadlock yeah so it's a it's a shooter but it's a moba shooter so the

sort of three lanes and you have to push it looks a little like Marvel rivals like in terms of style and um it's tremendously complex there are these builds you do to sort of enhance your character and as you get kills you earn money which lets you upgrade your character and it just sort of steam rolls into more success and i'm not even qualified to explain it really no i'm watching it i've I've seen similar games. There are like the 40 heroes. So when you start the game, you choose three heroes and you kind of. And like, but if you're like, I want to be this hero,

it's super important to me. You might take my favorite hero. So you have to be good at at least three characters. And I'm not bad. This guy is fucking good. I mean, I don't know. Let me see. It's that video I linked.

I'm just like, I don't even know really what I'm looking at. notice every time he clicks on something, it dies. And he seems to be mostly shooting people in the face. And then he got trouble. I was doing well. That looks kind of fun. That looks, I definitely see where that's, is complicated. You can slide, you can double jump, and you can dash.

But like what you do by chating that stuff together into like double jumping, dashing midair into a slide. Oh, what he'll down maybe too? Yeah. And there's a stuff. stamina mechanic in the game so you can't just spam the stuff. But, you know, so we'll like travel and suddenly I arrive there like six seconds after he did. And I'm like, what did you do?

You know, I held W the whole time. What the fuck were you doing with your crazy mechanic sliding, dashing, jumping, whatever? But I'm glad that there are games like that had. I was worried at a time like, like 10 years ago or something like that, that the skis, the high skill ceiling games were going by the wayside and everything was kind of going toward the middle just to be as accessible as possible. But that has not been the case. There's plenty of those games for people who can click heads and like with crazy high skill ceilings. Rainbow six is so wild. That's what I think should get into. Like Rainbow looks like the one where you play slow and your

memorization and preparation and map knowledge are so integral. Like don't get me wrong. I clearly see that the people who click on heads prevail in most gunfights. But the way they set up those gun fights seems to be at least as important as the gunfights themselves. They'll knock holes in the wall and send a robot through and quickly have a call out to the team. They all went left, you know, or they all went this or that or the other, like a quick call out for information. And then they're fucking knocking a hole in the wall and getting some wacky angle through it. you might punch through the wall, right? And now they have this, first of all, the intelligence gathering, like you mentioned.

But then some people are hitting headshots through a tiny hole in the wall in an availability window that's so, so small. And it's, like you said, that's a really high skill ceiling game. I've only watched it. I haven't played it. But I get, yeah. I saw Shroud play this guy. I know his face, but I don't know his name.

But he's one of those guys who got like 15,000 hours in Rainbow Six or something. He's like one of the best in the world. and he's playing shroud and shroud's been practicing for like a week and they're like side by side reactions as shroud wins gunfights he's so good he's so good what the fuck was that and this them like going back and forth was super entertaining because shroud is just this raw skill and this other guy at one point say he knows what i'm going to do before i do in that video yeah i think i have seen that same video and like you said it's a an aiming technician in shroud versus is like a subject matter expert in game.

Yeah. He's like he knows everything. He knows every move I'm going to make. He's seen it all before. I just have to click faster and better than him. And then the music starts and it's just, it's just shroud dominating and he's never played this fucking game. Did Trout win that?

I thought he did. I thought he, I'm not sure. I think he killed him with a sledgehammer at one point or something. I got a, like got a melee kill on him. I play Arc Raiders a lot. And it's not that I never died,

but I rarely lose fair gun fights anymore. And I have a fun time with that. Like, I'll be solo in friendly lobbies and people shoot me. And I just, I talk trash. I'm like, everyone's PVP till they meet a motherfucker like me. Huh? That didn't go the way you thought it would, did it? And they're like on the ground, their carriages got their hand in the air begging.

Jack is walking by the door. Get them, baby. I'm like, everyone's PVP till they meet a motherfucker like Woody's Gator tag. and they're like, what'd you say? That was my line. I don't want to say it again. No, don't say my bike was bad. That's the worst thing.

You heard what I said. That's a good answer. That's what I'll do next time. Yeah. I finally watched the trailer. Something happened in Minnesota, because I'm more into that. In Minnesota,

someone just tried to escape. the risers with their car. It doesn't seem like they actually hit anybody, but this person was doing exactly what I would do in that situation. Like doing like, beep, beep,

beep, be, like approaching trying to get away. Because they're probably, oh, did a crowd surround a car? They didn't stop. And so the crowd didn't successfully surround the car.

Oh. Had they stopped, the crowd would have to run that person down. He ran that person down. he did run the person down. He knocked the person over. Somebody fell, I'm looking. Let me take a me. Yeah, but they fell because the car hit him.

Are we back to this again? I'm trying to look at what happened. This is just the random guy who. The person tried to jump on the hood. Oh, yeah. I just. I only watched it once. I don't see the, anyone.

Right around 10 seconds. Watching on a loop. He tried to jump on the hood. This is just some random person. So I don't think it's trying to run someone down. I think they're probably trying to get home. Oh, no, he stood his ground. And when he was 100% that the car was going to hit him,

he decided to, like, frog jump onto the hood briefly. But what's happening is they're protesting about that lady being shot in the streets and the car tried to drive through the crowd, for those of your audio only. And some guy got frog jumped onto the hood. Looks like everybody's fine. Why would you be shitty to some random guy trying to get home? Yeah, I can see it the way you do. It's hard to see it perfectly because it's a lot.

fat chick in the foreground. You know, get the view I really want. Let them go. It's just a random dude who's like mad about the ending of Game of Thrones or something. I have no problem with protests as long as they don't burn and destroy property. Like that, I like that. I like them getting in the street and like and voicing their anger and dismay at anything and everything, whether I agree about it or not.

I, of course, do identify with the guy who, just wants to get fucking home though but still I see I see that his rights are going to have to bend a little bit to the gigantic crowd of people's rights to express themselves they shouldn't have to

I wouldn't run them down though let him drive through be like okay like even if they're spazin over shit they should still see like a red acura driving at them and be like oh this is a guy who's like

trying to get home and make poor tenderline with his family like what is the reason seen the video the guy had a camera in his truck so he's got he's got a camera showing where he's going and a camera pointed at his face too in his in his car i don't know why he'd want that but he freaks out because the parade has his exit and all the exits like shut down and he's screaming i don't know if he's on the phone with somebody or if he's just screaming to himself like i got every fucking exit shut down from clear view up to mountain lake you can't get it anywhere there's this

fucking beret. He's like, Dr. And he just takes the exit and there's all these orange don't go here signs like everywhere and he gets up on the grass. He's going fast in like a 250 truck. He's plowing through it all.

He's just driving through it. And there's people going no, no, not this way. He's like, fuck you too. Pass them and then suddenly didn't you get the vibe of regret like 20 seconds in? He was like, oh, I wish I could undo this. Yeah. Suddenly he's not he's more like

And he's just trying to Because there's children and women screaming and running away Like they think it's like a terror attack Everybody does And they're just Civilians in the street Running everywhere for cover

And he's sort of like Okay He doesn't stop or slow down though He just keeps going Does he hit people? I know he's property and barricades and shit If no He didn't hit any people

and he wasn't trying to. He was just, I don't, I've never been that mad. I don't know if you've ever been so mad, you've lost control. I don't know exactly, I've been so mad,

I said some mean shit. I've been so bad, like, I've said some mean shit, I didn't mean, but I've never been so mad, I drove somewhere I didn't mean. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that's an extended madness. I've never lost my mind for a minute and a half. Yeah, yeah. He, and you see him go, from this over-the-top rage and out-of-controlness

to that slow realization that our life is going to be very different going forward. I'm going to jail. Is there a sad one. If you didn't hurt anyone, I just think some mandatory counseling. I can't. Maybe some fines. Yeah, some fines and like whatever traffic laws he broke. but I agree with

he didn't hurt anybody and he wasn't trying to hurt anybody he just lost his fucking cool maybe he'd maybe suspend his license for a year and put him some anger management

he'll be better like that guy at Charlotte he's 30 days in jail I worry he's gonna lose his job right and now we've created like a cycle of downtrodden

that didn't need to happen that doesn't perform a societal good you want a societal good some mandatory counseling maybe some they called it diversion when I was a kid

they made you wash like police cars and clean the beach shit like that yeah um you know like better call south and you have to clean the side of a highway that kind of stuff and uh like just teach him a little lesson without wrecking his life if he didn't hurt anyone yeah i don't think you heard anybody i don't think he hit anything other than like don't go hear signs and road cones and shit we used to steal those every time we saw them i had such a collection of barricades and the the cones um and what you used to steal those every time we saw them i had such a collection of You stole the barricades and the cones.

And what I wanted to steal, like the big score that I always talked about, you know that automated thing that sits there and shows that you're going too fast. Like it'll limit 35 and they'll start flashing your like real time speed like 60. Yeah. Or whatever. I always wanted to steal that motherfucker and use it for a pitching spin up like machine. And we they would have an part. I don't know.

never found out because I didn't steal it, but I presumed that it would work. And I would always drive past that thing. And they would park it like on our road, like, like, like all my dad's like deserted lonely back road. It would be there. And I'm like at night, no one would catch us. No one would see us. It had like a tow hitch so you could back up to it with the truck and just snatch it and be gone. And like we live right there. And if we got caught, we just run away. It seemed like the perfect crime but I was so worried that they had like a satellite tracker in that motherfucker and they would just pull in a satellite tracker and it would end up costing like 12 I'd be a 12,000 dollar thing that I'd stole and it'd be like some massive

deal that it was like 2004 you're like they have satellite trackers I was I was a mangrown I was this is this I was I was I was late 20s maybe early 30s when I was plotting this little I wanted it I was late 20s, early 30s. For my YouTube videos, I would often need those road cones. I was using them for stuff. So I was like, where do you get road cones? Where they're all over the road.

Yeah, they're free. You can just take them. Do you see that late at night? Where it was Trump being like, people don't know this, but the dictators in South America, they're free. You can take them. You can bring them home. Nobody can stop you.

I've got one dictator in my closet right now. My favorite meme. It says it won't work for a baseball. Oh, good to know. It says it's too small. It's not tuned for that. And it also doesn't work with the angle, right? So, like, you could throw it at 70.

And if the angle is off even slightly, it might read 50. Yeah. I also saw the office episode where it did work. Well, they were running past it. Yeah. That would work because they were running in the road. Would that really work? Yeah, if you could hit the minimum speed for it.

Oh, that's a thing. 35. I've got 35. It said you have to go. of 15, which might max out my current speed. I don't know. Yeah, we could do

15 a sprint, no problem at all. I saw a dude in the fucking NFL game the other night was running 22 miles an hour. Yeah, yeah. I tried out for the Jaguars. They said no. 22 fucking miles per hour. He's like a fucking car out there.

Dude, I watched that Steelers Ravens game. It was one of the greatest football games. I've ever even heard about. They gunned it out in the fourth quarter. Winner goes to playoffs, and I think the loser's out. The winner is definitely the champion of the AFC North. That's the decider in this game.

Both coaches' jobs are on the line, and they go back and forth scoring in the fourth quarter into the final wee moments. And then the Steelers finally score. They take a one-point lead, or they take a two-point lead or something like, yeah, two-point lead, and they go to kick their extra point, and they miss. And they give the ball back to the Ravens with like a couple minutes to go.

The Ravens only need a field goal to win because of the extra point miss. And so they get down within 45 yards maybe for the kick, wide right, game over. And the Ravens coach is fired, and the Steelers and Aaron, 42-year-old Aaron Rogers are going into the playoffs. And it went back and four. Chiz was typing. He's like like multiple moments of what the fuck is this really what the NFL is like? Like he doesn't watch much, but he was watching because I was watching.

I was like, yeah, every game's like this. They're all like this. Yeah. Just an incredible shootout into the fourth quarter with everything on the line. It was tremendous. Miami and old miss have a game going on right now. Miami's up by four, 1713 in the third quarter. Boo.

Go on this. I don't, I don't know what you're talking about. no one of my close friends went to old miss and so okay baseball you're talking about college football yeah what Miami Ole Miss right now I don't know anything about that oh you don't know anything about

oh yeah because Georgia got fucking knocked out didn't they yeah sure did sure did it was rough wow they weren't they deserved it they could that quarterback was running around in the back field like if they catch him he's losing like 25 fucking he's like these huge scrambling loops back behind himself and we'd have three men on him and we couldn't contain him.

When I saw that, I lost all confidence in the win. Even when we took the lead back late, I was like, we're going to lose this lead back. As soon as we give them the ball or they're going to fucking score again, sure enough. Because they couldn't contain that motherfucker and it was embarrassing. It was multiple plays where they're- Has had a nightmare playoff.

The only teams they've beaten are other SEC teams and that won, Horman or something. I can't even think of their name. Horman. I have it wrong. I don't remember who Texas played. Tulane. That's what I can't remember.

Tulane. Yeah. A real powerhouse. Yeah, rough year for the SEC. Not ideal. But it's going to be. The Ole Miss is still in there, you know, representing. We'll see how that.

Old Miss has only beaten Tulane and another SEC team. Like if the N. So far. Had to advance. Yeah, so far. They have a, now they're up against an A. team and they're losing but it's close. Yeah.

I completely phase out after George's out. I'm not a fan of the sport as much as I am a fan of the team. See, that's where like you and I differ in some sports ways is that I will watch a NHL game between any two teams and have a fun time because I like the sport. Like I enjoy being their, no. Well, let me tell you, they put the entire UFC catalog on there. Every numbered event is on there now and you can watch them in order.

I've had that shit rolling all week. I've just been watching like the whole, I've been going through the goddamn catalog. It's awesome. For the one low price at Paramount Plus, I feel like I'm doing that. You're getting that entire gigantic catalog and all the pay-per-view events going to go. Do you watch old fights?

Do you watch old fights all? Yes. Yes. Especially if I if a guy is becoming more prominent in the sport, I like to go back and watch his early stuff. It's like it's like I didn't see it. I don't remember this guy's first three fights because he was a no name. But now that he's about to contend for a belt,

I want to see how he's like progressed or how he was back then. Or if he's, you know, Connor McGregor looks completely different in his first five fights than from his last five fights or whatever. Is it just UFC they have there? Or is it like boxing and the other combat sports? I think it's just, well, UFC is that they paid UFC seven or nine,

some enormous billion dollar deal to buy their shit. And UFC has shifted away from the pay-per-view model, and they're exclusively with Paramount now, whereas they were with ESPN doing events with them before. And they're also going to do like four super events a year that'll be on CBS, like on broadcast television, as well as the Paramount streaming apps and stuff like that. It's going to be huge for the sport. I don't know what it's going to do for fighter pay, but the sport's going to get, 10 years from now that sport's going to be so much bigger just because I wonder. Because the old model was the money came from pay-per-view. and the popularity came from piracy. And now I'm like, oh, so what does this do for them?

Does it give them more money, less money? See, now, well, because it's on Paramount Plus now, even if you don't want to pay for it, if you still want to pirate it, there's going to be so much more pirating. I feel like because it's so much easier to get the stream. Like before I get, you had to buy the pay-per-view or hack into the, like, satellite feed or something,

and then you had to, like, rebroadcast it. Now you just need a Paramount Plus subscription. I think that huge injection of cash is going to be good for me. I hope they invest in those schools all around the world, like those dojos the way they have them. That's really smart. Let me ask you. I think I have an unpopular opinion about matchmaking,

and I want to know where you land. I've always appreciated that Dana set up the fights I wanted to see. So maybe this really popular guy versus this really popular guy. If you have a fight style that's fun to watch, you often get a title shot in like a three win streak. If you have a fighting style that's not fun to watch, or maybe you don't speak English, you have to put together like eight wins to get a title fight.

Some people are like, is this a sport or not? What the fuck? This guy clearly deserves the title shot more than this idiot over here. But I've always been like, eh, I kind of like how he gives me what I want. It's non-scripted entertainment. It's a business. Yeah, it's not quite a sport.

I don't think it meets the high level of being a sport and it is the NBA unfortunately for you but it's just not regulated correctly it's not fair you know if you win X amount of games in football then stuff happens if you score X amount of points and stuff happens but in the in the UFC if you're popular if you've got a cool accent good haircut

got the right tattoos if the right demographics are into you oh shit this guy draws women then you're getting your title shot They want you to be a marquee guy Who draws women? I would imagine Conner McGregor. But I think someone like Rhonda Rousey was huge financially because she drew women.

Who is the shredded guy that looked like a Soviet 1950 propaganda? Hala Costa is, looks like that. Are you black brown white guy? Stage north cut. That's, yeah. He didn't pan out. Dude, if Hitler would have seen that guy, he would have been like, Oh, perfect.

That he is. See, everyone around sees this is what they're going for. He had to be on steroids. His father was a sterile in a professional bodybuilder. So to think that his son was all natural and looked like that,

I don't buy it. He's in a real estate now. He's also like handsome. He's like a good looking guy. Oh, and he was really sweet. He was super nice. He seemed straight edge. He seemed like a Tim Tebow type character.

He did bare knuckle boxing. and they immediately matched him up against some world breaker, and he literally got his face broken. It was like, why would you do that when you're that good? Or a little bone. So now there's a fight coming up between a guy named Patty the Badi and Michael Chandler. Michael Chandler is famous for losing fights.

Is it Gichi? Am I wrong? It's Gichi for the belt. Nah, I must be fucking this up. You're probably right. You're right, it's Gitchie. What is? Patty the Badi. So Gichi is old and hasn't.

been how is he done lately i'm messing this uh he got knocked the fuck out by max holloway and it was spectacular it was one of the wildest max holloway i don't want to interrupt your story but max holloway does this thing at the very end of fights where he points to the ground and he's like stand here and like trade for 10 seconds and gaichi did it and holloway knocked him the fuck out i'm trying to look at ghi's record but his last name is impossible g a et h j yeah yeah he's a word yeah he's a hard one to to gauge by that though because his opponents are so strong he's he's so often contending for a belt he beat raphael fazeve lost to holloway like you said and then he beat poor yel and rafiel fosive again god two half of his last four wins are against the same dude that fizziv won't

go away it's fazib guy just can't learn and he's only won three out of his last five like it's This is not a title run, but here he is fighting for the title. And Patty the Batty, he's beaten nothing but tomato cans lately. And now they're fighting for the title. This is the kind of thing that people dog on the UFC for, but these are both fighters people love. I want to see them fight. I like Patty the Baddy's personality.

I like his schick. I like the whole thing. And I feel the same way about Gaichi. Gachie's got one of those heartwarming fucking stories about like growing up in the Midwest and his mom driving him hours and hours out of their middle. and nowhere place to go do state wrestling and stuff like that or or junior wrestling or whatever it was and he's just a never got to be a champion and i apparently you learned to fight by watching rocky balboa it's nothing but haymakers it's just he's he's not a smart fighter but he knocks people

to fuck out every now and then and it's fun to watch and he eats he eats a lot of shots and that's fun to watch it is a little bit rock like a rocky balboa type character and and he's he's a good old like white boy from the United States of America, which I always appreciate in the combat sports. There's not, you know, there's a lot of, a lot of,

Europeans. What's your stack ranking? Like, of the, like, when you root for fighters or not root for fighters, do you go white guy over other guy,

even if the black guy is American and the white guy is British? Or do you go American always? Because I go American always. I don't care where they're from. All right. I care where they're from less than, The number one thing that draws me to somebody is they're fighting style and how dynamic and explosive it is.

It's more nuance. I like people who do spinning shit. I like people who have backspinning elbow knockouts, people that have good ground and pound, people that don't pussyfoot around in round one and measure them out for the next five minutes. They fucking try to destroy you. I like shit like that. So that's my number one thing. after that, I guess I care a little bit about if they're from a place like I'm from or from the place I'm from and like what their personality is comes into it, obviously, because there are fighters who I don't like their personality. So I don't care. I don't, I'll just hate on you. Like I'm just going to be your hater now because I don't like your personality. Don't care how good you are. Don't care how fun it is to watch you fight. I hate you because I hate you. Yeah. Like the Dagestanis. Like you, like most of the Dagestanis. And, and, and, uh, it.

It's getting harder and harder. I look at other fight style and how I like a dominant fighter. I'm not too worried about how they dominate, but I like to live in an era of greatness. So like Khabib, for example, some people might think his fights were boring, but he was like an anaconda who'd like get to your ankles, get your knees, get your thighs, and then smash, smash, smash. And not only did he win every fight he was ever in,

I think he only lost one round ever. Like this, he was always the hammer. One round. Conno McGregor. Yeah. He decided to strike with Connor McGregor. I think he lost one round ever. And he beat Connor McGregor until Conning Reger tapped out and got spit on like a bitch.

So anyway. bananas. One round ever. It's an era of greatness. And I think that's neat. I think it's neat to watch basketball with Michael Jordan or LeBron James plays. I think it's neat to be a hockey fan when Wayne Gretzky is dominating. And it's need to be a UFC fan when Khabib is doing his thing.

so I do like to watch dominant fighters I also like to see how they do on the mic they can be funny Derek Lewis baby Derek Lewis I think he's on this next card that's a bad motherfucker I love Derek Lewis is a big black man

he's no no no no he's a big heavy set black dude who fights in the heavyweight division he's known for his explosive one punch knockouts his terrible cardio though it's been improving his non-existent ground game although he's always in Wait, he's a really, really strong guy who gets tired quick.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. This is my new favorite fighter. I love Derek Lewis. In my head, his hands are on his knees. I'm not sure about that part, though. He was fighting this big Russian dude, I think. And then he just flattened him with one punch.

He looked terrible. He was losing that whole five part where he knocked him out. I think that's Volkov. This guy, Derek Lewis rules. I like this. Vokhov looks like Dolph Lundron from Rocky 4, like a giant, tall, blonde. Russian and he's been piecing Derek Lewis up the whole fight and he's not

breathing hard. Derek Lewis looks like me after five rounds. He's breathing so hard and the announcers are counting him out and he fucking one punch KOs Volkov and that that trajectory from there in his career it was there was a left turn and a right turn there and left turn was mediocrity and possibly getting cut

and right turn right turn was a shot at the title all these all these deals and being beloved because when he gets on the microphone, he tears his shorts off, he's in his boxers. And he's like, he took his shorts off. What's that about his? My balls was hot.

I remember one time he won and he's like, where's Rhonda Rousey's fine ass at? He's always, he mooned the, I don't know if it was just the crowd or if it was the other fighter's, like, whole team after his last win. Like, his whole ass was out, like, in the ring. He's funny.

So I like a fighter who's, I like him to be really good. And I like him to be funny on the mic. Also, I like a morally straight fighter, too. I'll root against a guy if he's, like, crashing his car to pregnant women or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's just as much fun to root against someone. It's more fun to root against someone, you know?

Because even if they win, it just intensifies your hate, and now you'll root against them harder. But when they finally lose, you just like, yeah, that's what you get. You fucking beep! You fucking beep, beep, beeper. I'm just like, I love it. When I see a guy I hate, literally get the shit beaten out of him. You don't get that anywhere else in the world outside of like the fucking streets. Okay, the streets and the UFC.

They might talk a big game. Like, oh, yeah, when we play the Hornets next week, we're going to bodybag them. It's like, yeah, you're going to shoot more hoops than they do until the timer goes off. Oh, that'll really hurt their self-esteem. And this sport, they knock your fucking teeth out. They knock your fucking teeth out. Break your orbital bone. Sometimes they put you in the eye.

Give you a limp for the rest of your fucking life. Or in the case for a goddamn champion, stab you with filthy fingernails in your eyeball. And he's having to have multiple eye surgeries because of that. You know, a big thing about that is John Jones, or who was the poker? It wasn't Jones. Gagne, that guy? Gagne.

That guy's gone, but I pronounce it Gagne. That guy's fingernails were disgusting. Really? Disgusting. You could see it in the poke. And so he's putting his dirty fingernails in that guy's eye. Ugh. Gross. Don't like that. I know they check their fingernails, but it's rare that they get the clippers out. I feel like they should do that a lot. Dude, I saw one where the fingernails were too long and they told him they're too long. You know what the answer was? He started biting them off and creating and every one of them is a jagged mess now. And Rogan's like, well, that's no good. Now there's all jack. They're just all jagged. That's not the answer for that, D.C. No way, no way, wrong. It definitely isn't. Someone here should have some clippets.

Like, this is not a sport. This is sport with enough entertainment on top that it is no longer a sport. It's sports entertainment. When those two men are in the ring, they're in sports. The outcomes, it's all real, but it's just not real well regulated as far as being fair to all the, the competition. Like in every other sport, there's a road to the championship

that's very clear. Beat this guy, then that guy. Just keep winning X amount of times in a row. When you're a champion, everyone knows the tiebreakers in advance. There's never this like, ooh,

the winner of Kyle and Taylor are going to get a title shot. Well, that fight was a little boring. So now the winner of like Woody chocolate it's going to get the title shot and said because you guys didn't deliver fun. They literally do that.

Yeah. And I love it because some fight. or will eke out some win and Dana's and they're like hey do you think that Marquez is going to be able to contend for that title now and Dan will be straight face be like not fighting like that is that what you want is that the kind of championship fight you want to see like that again hey who are in the room wants to see that again speak up if you want your press credentials taken away boo I think it's pretty unanimous here no one wants to see that again so Marquez I think where he's going to be

fighting in Bellator maybe in some back alley somewhere by next week we'll eventually get back to real gladiatorial style combat. I hope so. That's the dystopic future I'm looking for. All right, so there's a book by Stephen King called, I think, The Walk. They made it into a movie, and the premise is this. It seems like the year is 1960, 1965, and there's been a World War III type scenario, and the U.S. is on its knees.

Like, the war's over, but we're diminished greatly. And every year they have this sort of Hunger Games type thing where a young man from every state is gathered, and they have to walk until only one is left. And if you go below three miles per hour, you get a warning. If you get three warnings, then they shoot you in the head with an AR-15.

You're being followed by like jeeps with sensors on them and soldiers, and like an evil colonel played by Mark Hamill. They'll be like, fuck you, fuck the colonel. And he's like, that's right, boys, flex that sack. Y'all are an inspiration for the entire United States. And then he's just like up there with his fucking glasses. And they've been,

they've been walking for days. And they're going insane. One guy gets diarrhea. And so he's like shitting. And then he pulls his pants up and he's running and shitting. And he's like, warning number one. And he's like, he pulls his pants up and jogs for like eight,

12 paces. He has to stop and go again. He's shitting again. Warning number two. And they're all going, just shit down your leg, man. Just shit down your leg. I'd shit as I went like a zebra.

That's what I'd, done too, but he couldn't master that technique and they shot him right in the fucking head. And they're all young men. They look like they're all like 18, 20 years old. I don't know that I liked the movie, but I liked what. I'm glad I watched it, but

it's not a great book. I have the book on Audible. I haven't listened to it yet. I was going to watch the movie first for some reason. And I still don't know how I feel about that movie. It was a little fucked up. All 50 of those guys died, except for that one guy who

one, won't spoil. Have you watched the Fallout season two? I'm two episodes in. Okay. It has it lived up to episode, or I'm sorry, season one. Yes, I would say it has lived up to season one, two episodes in. Obviously, they're sort of staging things, and it's very early. They were about to meet the great Caesar's Legion or Kaiser's Legion at the end of

episode two. And the one chick says to Lucy something like, yeah, be careful around here. I don't want you, you don't want to get raped by the wrong people. The wrong people. Yeah,

that's such a great way to phrase it. So yeah, I'm into it. There was a big fight with like a CGI rad scorpion at one point. I don't think it's spoiler to say that a fight happened, but it looked pretty good

and it looks scary to me because I'm afraid of scorpions. Is the legion? I didn't play New Vegas, so I don't know the lore. So the guys who are dressed like Romans, that seems like a cool thing to do. They basically dress like Romans with hockey pads, but they embrace all of the like Roman Legion's traits. So they crucify and rape and enslave in mass.

Okay. So they go hard in the paint? Super hard in the paint. There are plenty that go hard. Are they a big group? Like is that a very big faction? They are one of the main. factions in New Vegas. They are the main

antagonist for sort of the NCR, the New California Republic, and at the end of the game those two armies face off for control of the Hoover Dam, and you have to face off against this giant Roman badass who has like a golden Roman

mask he wears. I can't remember what the character's name is, but it's pretty cool. So yeah, major faction in the game. My pizza's here. Is it time to wrap? Yeah, that's perfect. It's Perfect. Hey, everybody.

Teller's Pizza's here. BJ, 786.