Painkiller Already - PKA 805 W/ MMA Guru: Fitness Mogging MMA Guru

Episode Date: May 23, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:27 guerrilla mine as a whole, and of course our merchandise. Guru, it's good to have you back. It's a pleasure to be back on the PKK pod, the OGs of YouTube, back in the inner circle of the podcast game. It's been six long months since my last appearance here, but I thought we'd leave it a while, so we have plenty to discuss. And boy, the timing has never been better with some of the recent events of the MMA world and other things in the world as well. I can't wait to get to recent events, but I'm really chomping at the bit to find out how your fishing trip with Bryce Mitch, went. Oh, it was an absolute blast. Honestly, it was the one part of the U.S. trip that I enjoyed. I didn't enjoy the, uh, I went, I went to New York. I'm not really an outgoing person. I went to
Starting point is 00:01:17 Miami. I went to New York. You know, I wrestled with Armand to Sarukian, a little bit of a humiliation ritual there. I'm as he do as a content creator these days. Um, but the fishing trip with Bryce Mitchell was one where I was like, this is a really enjoyable moment and I've enjoyed this day. Overall, it was, it was everything I expected it to be. It was a real trip, to be honest with. All right. Did he enlighten you with any, like, grand philosophies that, that you didn't know before? There was a bunch that couldn't make YouTube, um, that I have, but may not reveal and probably won't reveal out of the, you know, the, the, the, the pact sort of a code, right. It's like a moral code between us.
Starting point is 00:01:59 But the fishing trip was great, dude. We spent a night out in the water. I mean, it was, I went there expecting it to be a few hours. And it ended up, I got to his about 2 p.m. And I didn't leave his until 4 a.m. That night. Okay. Who was the bearer, and or luckier fisherman?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Reveal it. We didn't catch a fish. It was a tie. I'm, yeah, neither of us caught a fish. I'm still on the fence of whether or not there were fish in the lake that we were in. If not for some movement that was going on, I would have honestly guessed that there were no fish in this lake that we were in.
Starting point is 00:02:38 But we did have a couple bites, but we had a little different way of fish. And it wasn't the usual fishing rod, sit there and wait for it. We were doing like trout lines. I don't know if you saw, but you'd tie one end of the line to a tree and the other end to another line, and then you put little moments of baits throughout that line
Starting point is 00:02:58 and let it sink to the bottom. So it was like a certain thing, but he was, he was like had this goal of us catching a catfish and for me to try catfish nuggets, which he said are like one of the most underrated foods that you can have and all you're going to love him. But it was more about the,
Starting point is 00:03:14 the fish that we didn't catch along the way. If you're not saying, you know, we just shared stories on the boat. We go into conspiracies. At some point, he swore he heard Bigfoot. On that.
Starting point is 00:03:27 on that trip? Yeah, while we were on the boat. You know, he said, that's Bigfoot. We've heard him out here. We've heard rumors of him. So there were a lot of like climactic. I think it was you.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I think it was you. Maybe he caught a glimpse. Just say it. The shoe fits. Yeah. He thinks that Bigfoot lives in Arkansas. I mean, where else would Bigfoot live? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:53 In the Pacific North place. Like Washington. I don't think. I didn't realize. Because there was fat-based geolocation for a big-backed. Yeah, so it's based on a real animal called Gigantipithecus that actually lived in the Pacific North East, the West, Canada, those parts of Can't, uh, uh, near Alaska, like that region of the planet. So like, not Arkansas so much.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah, I've heard Rogan go in on the, uh, gigantopithecus and how it could have been a real thing that maybe people saw the last of the gigantopithecus and then the Thunderbirds as well. Yeah. True, true. Underbirds were these giant birds that were big enough to like yoink a kid and take them off. And the natives had had like stories about those birds and people like, oh, they believe in skybirds. And they were like, holy shit, look at this beak I found, Mike.
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's like, you know, there weren't thundercards. There were some noises. There was a too can. Yeah, there were some noises that we heard out there that I would, honestly, I'd rather it have been Bigfoot. Because the idea of a man wandering around the middle of nowhere in Arkansas and making these noises around us while we're in the boat was scarier. We had a gunshot at one point. Like that's almost more of a scary thing. Humans are way scarier than mythology. And the two of you can more than handle yourselves, but you don't know what the other, you don't know how many people there are,
Starting point is 00:05:11 what kind of weaponry they brought. I could beat Bryce Mitchell if I have a gun. But if Bryce has a gun, no, no, no, no, I'm making the rules in this scenario. I can be Bryce Mitchell and two things. If I have a gun and strictly over the internet. I love my chances against anyone if I'm I have a gun and they don't. Yeah. Undefeated, you know, 100 and no. Put up in the ring. That seems to be the standard, you know, you're good odds.
Starting point is 00:05:36 If you have a weapon of mass destruction. I don't want to sound too English here by saying mass destruction with a world of over. Yeah, Bryce Mitchell with a gun is someone you do not want to encounter in the fields of Arkansas at night. I tell you, dude, that's a dangerous. Yeah. Have you at gunpoint and be like,
Starting point is 00:05:54 earth is flat. And you're like, okay. okay yeah i always kind of questioned it yeah no but he's he's actually the nicest person i've ever met in my whole life which is you know i was expecting him to be nice but it was real you know i hear about southern hospitality as an englishman and i was like okay but he was extra like he had a place for me to stay he cooked for us like like everything dude he was just the nicest man and there was no mask slip where he got sick of this act of being nice that you know That was genuine
Starting point is 00:06:28 intellectual actor How long was it? Like how long was it? Yeah, how long did you hang? I got there at 2 p.m. left at 4 a.m. So it was the whole day and then the whole night. We chilled in the day at the farm
Starting point is 00:06:40 and then we spent about honestly like 10 hours out on the lake. It was crazy and then we got back to his, ripped the bong and that's where the true stories and that was the biggest trip. That's something I'll remember like, I remember the day when I was. ripping the bong with Bryce Mitchell and his camper eating steaks and talking all sorts. Yeah, it was a good time.
Starting point is 00:07:03 We were talking about this a while back. The commentary team, we've kind of had it with the UFC commentary team. I got nothing against Joe Rogan, but his commentary sucks. D.C. is so biased and so bad. Bisping has become one of my favorites because at least he'll talk about fighting occasionally. I would love to have you and Bryce Mitchell do my commentary because your play-by-play is legitimately like S-tier. Like, it's as good as any pro that is on an ESPN broadcast. It's better, honestly.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Like, if I were listening through the radio, I could close my eyes and I could see the fight when you do play by play. Bryce Mitchell is the perfect color commentary guy. Because if there's ever a lull in the fight, if we've got like a Yuel Romero versus Adasanya type thing, where we're just shuffling our feet and looking at each other, Bryce is going to fill the silence with some good, good stuff. Oh, yeah. You know, Guru, I've been reading about Jews. It's like, back to the Anyway, good job
Starting point is 00:08:01 from Strickland there again. You know, Romero was actually part of a communist program to make a Cuban Superman, right? Actually, I did know that. That's why I have those gay urges. We're having problems with my, Bryce Mitchell's microphone here.
Starting point is 00:08:17 His mic is saying ridiculous shit. Do you have any favorite commentators, guru? Oh, I agree with Kyle here. And I do like, I think the new age ones are better. DC and Rogan, there's a thing on commentary where they get so comfortable, where they know their friends with Dana and they know that the UFC loves them.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And they kind of just sort of treat it as a bit of a podcast. And they sit there and they yap. And DC is eating into the microphone. And I just got a text message from so and so. And I'm like, there's something going on. Like there's a, a chaos literally happening and unfolding within our very eye or in front of our very eye.
Starting point is 00:08:55 In every can. Meanwhile, they're like counting the guy out on the floor. I can't remember the name of one of my favorites. Would you help me? He's handsome. He was one of the smaller champions. Uriah Fabor hates him. He's very a big. That's it. Thank you. That's what I needed. Yeah. I like Dominic Cruz. He's not always right. But he's actually one of the commentators that has got the most backlash for the McGregor-Habee fight and the way he was talking about it. But I think that the fact that he is expendable and he can be fired and been got rid of is what makes him good because that sort of job in security is what will make you actually really pay attention and do your research, you know? He criticized D.C. pretty strongly. And his criticism was that D.C. didn't prepare for the fights. And he compared, he's like, this is what I do. And he's got all these notes in front of them that he can refer to during the fight to do the best job possible. D.C. on the other hand, just sits down and, wings it with some pop-eyes and then it's like you this isn't going to do i saw a picture of dc and i'm
Starting point is 00:09:59 not a m-ma guy so i don't watch it but i saw a screenshot of him sitting there recently in the last six months and he like had a tremendous like a like a cane raising canes box combo all six tenders like right next to him as he's doing the commentary for the fight that may have been edited that might have been edited. It wasn't raising it wasn't raising can. It was that amount of chicken. It was like whatever they're serving there. But he was eating tenders though. That's what it always is. I can't
Starting point is 00:10:30 remember the other person. Oh, it was I'm spacing out. Who's the funny comedian with the mullet? Theo Von. Theo Von. Theo Vaughn was talking about like if you ever see him attend a UFC event, whenever somebody hooks him up with tickets, he's there at the first early prelim sitting there by himself like, yep, it's going
Starting point is 00:10:48 be some good fights tonight. Like, He's a fan. And I've heard him talk about. He's like, D.C. He's over there with that box of chicken tenders. He's trying to hide so bad. He's pretty based.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah, he's a diehard fan of the UFC big time. But I like Paul Felder, I think, is a good one because he's very professional and he does do a lot of play-by-play. But I think, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:11:12 I kind of like the UFC commentary shit because it gives me space to exist. That's true. Oh, that's a good point. I think I saw Paul. Paul Felder, I think I have the right guy, get into it with a fan. The fan just absolutely, like, trashed him over Twitter.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And he's like, I dare you to say that to me, my face. And he goes, oh, no, you'd kill me. I'm going to keep this on Twitter. I like, I like your energy. I mean, I said, oh, fair enough, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that. Laura Sanko does a fine job. She seems to know, she does her homework.
Starting point is 00:11:45 She knows the fighter. She knows their background. She knows that her position is probably a little tenuous, and that people are going to be likely to not accept her. So she comes prepared. She clearly knows the sport. She knows mixed martial arts. She talks about jiu-jitsu moves that I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I'm like, oh, is that what that's called? Okay, dokey. All right, nice to know. I just learned something from Lorosenko. So I like her. I don't mind whenever she's on my TV. And she's pretty nice to look at. Yeah, she's on another fatty.
Starting point is 00:12:13 All of it. So there was a time you've watched long. The meta in MMA keeps shifting, right? Like at first it was Brazilian jihitsu like back in the 90s. And then it sort of changed to wrestling. And then the strikers like in the Anderson Silva era seemed to dominate. And all you needed was defensive grappling. And then grappling was the meta for a while, like in the Kabib era.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And even now you could argue, you know, the Islam and until recently. There's only one champion with a wrestling background. It's Islam. Oh, now there is. Boxing. Oh, currently. Yeah. I was going to say until recently, the unpronounceable dude that looks like he has a hair lip,
Starting point is 00:12:53 but doesn't someone help me. Chameo. Chamea. Chamea. Kamsat Chamea. Do you, I feel like in real time, we're seeing the meta shift away from grappling. It happens. Whoever's on the top is the one to chase.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Like the game, that's how the game improves over the years. A lot of people say that like, uh, oh, it used to be way better back in the day when Anderson Silva was doing these superhero moves. But that's also on the part of like. Anderson Silver was like the only good one. Like if Sean Strickland was facing the part-time history teachers that Anderson Silver was, he'd also look like he was entering the Matrix. You're talking about Rich Franklin?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yes, Rich Franklin. A little part-time history teacher. But I think whoever's at the top, that's what people chase. So once you see that wave of like, oh, Umar might get the Bantonweight belt. Marab has it now. Makashev's got this, Chameev's got this. All of a sudden, everyone in their gyms are going, okay, we need to. to go grappling, like grappling heavy this time.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And then strikers will take over. And then everyone's like, okay, everybody needs to hone in on their striking. So it's just like a balancing act of like what contenders are focusing on at any given time. And yes, Kyle was right. There's only Macchever left. One more targets to remove. But yeah, it is what it is. Taylor, pop quiz.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Do you know what Chuck Liddell's career was before fighting? Oh, my God. Like body cards. Garbage man. Bouncer. You know MMA guru? Was he an accountant? A certified public accountant.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yes. Oh, man, you led me right into that. I should have, I should have known. There's no way that would have given a fucking ass if it was anything other than accountants. Damn it. I bet he can't even do his own taxes now.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I bet you're right. I'm sorry, what you say Taylor? I said, that's why he's so hardcore. He's in the camera. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:14:45 He's just like, it's like looking in the mirror when I see that guy. The reason he must have quit is because those giant fingers must have been too big to work the 10 key. Yeah. Like, yeah. That's life on the edge. Accountancy is life on the fucking edge.
Starting point is 00:15:01 They made a movie about it. Real. Ben Ascran. No, what's his name? Ben Ascran. Yeah, not Ben Aske. I was close. I was so bad with, I'm losing my mind.
Starting point is 00:15:12 We're just names. Ben Affleck is just. that movie that it takes me four times longer than an average person to gather a video game map but otherwise I'm fine I don't think there's anything wrong
Starting point is 00:15:25 Ben Affleck in that movie isn't even autistic he's just like really impolite like he's just overtly rude to people they're like do you want to get lunch that like cute girl and he's like no go away
Starting point is 00:15:38 I need to do numbers it's like my God like just going to go on a date with the girl she wants you Oh my blood, he's like rain man. You know, like he's crazy. How rude he is. Go on the car.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Last time we were on, I said something, probably stupid. But I watched the Nate Diaz fight. And I came away with it thinking that I could survive around with Nate Diaz. That I wouldn't. And if worst case scenario, I wouldn't be afraid. Like, if I went in there with Francis Ingano, I am so afraid. And I'm hoping he'll show mercy. If I go in there with Nate Diaz, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:14 there might be a moment where I make this guy look bad. He might trip over his own fucking feet after I watched him get disassembled. He looks so, first of all, I never thought much of him at all. But he looks so bad and over the hill now that it's like, how bad is Nate Diaz? You know, they do that thing. Just how good is Connor McGregor? Yeah. How bad is Nate Diaz?
Starting point is 00:16:38 He has fallen off a hill so bad. And I think part of it is Mike Perry. he is a fucking pit bull of a of a fighter and an absolute powerhouse. This man takes it right out. Yeah. This is I would lose. I wish I didn't have the before picture in it, but okay. He's not letting me all reddened over there.
Starting point is 00:16:59 No, that guy on the right loses to a four mile walk without a drink. I would lose to Nate Diaz in 30 seconds to I could go around with Nate Diaz's transformation right here. that's the that's the type of mindset this transformation will give you. I don't think you're lasting around with Nate Diaz, by the way. He would piece you up, dude. What if he was keeping it on the feet? You don't think I could last around?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Do you think that helps? Oh, it helps tremendously. I just have to absorb the five punches he's going to throw. It doesn't help. You just have to do that? Yeah. He's a professional fighter. Like, I just, if we go to the ground,
Starting point is 00:17:40 he's an incredible jiu-jitsu practitioner, he would do whatever he wanted to me. but God, he looks bad on the feet. He just looks so slow. Just looking at his professional fighting acumen and your professional fighting acumen. Like, those punches he's throwing are going to land.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Like, he's not going to be stymied by your, you know, panic. He's going to be... I never realized how tender that spot was. Like, have you been hit in the kidneys? Have you been hit, like, at the bottom floating rib? It's not fun at all. I'm with you on all that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I'm just still saying he looks like shit. And I would not be afraid to fight him. He also tends to throw at half power. Like he's bunches of punches, half power. Like he's not a knockout. He unloads on me instead. He knows he doesn't have to make it around four. 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's what my fucking boxing coach would do. I've sold this so many times. It's a dull story now. But like he'd hit me in the body. And I'd be like, are you hitting me? He was a pro fighter, not like a good one. like, you know, a guy who occasionally fought for money. And I'm like, I got to know, like, what is it like when you hit in a fight?
Starting point is 00:18:53 Same fucking thing. Same fucking thing. I don't think my coach was holding back, at least on body shots. He didn't do any brain damage. That was something else, I guess. Very nice of him. I do agree that if I had to like, if there was a fighter that I had to choose, like, if you last, like, per second, you would make a thousand dollars in a cage.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And Garnu, you're leaving broke. You're like, you might leave him. A thousand dollars. Like a minus second. And you lost. But Nate Diaz would be the guy that I would choose. Or what about Chuck Liddell? Because I think he's worse.
Starting point is 00:19:29 After watching it. In his prime? No. Like right now, today. He'd still put mustard on you and catch you with some heaters, I swear. Okay. He would. Because he's a big, he's got the barrel old man.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Think about like the toughest old man, you know. know, it's still somewhat intimidating. Chuck is that guy, but he's actually that guy. You know? It's not, like, he would, he would still put a lot of steam on you. Are you a professional fighter, Kyle?
Starting point is 00:19:56 It's just, he's just, he's just, men with brain damage, who moves slowly, and I think, man, I don't think, I just don't see the explosive
Starting point is 00:20:04 scariness that I see from the, everybody else. Like, those two matchups come to mind as two of the most lopsided ones I've seen in the last 10, years like what like when Tito went in there and massacred chuck and then again the other day when perry just sliced Diaz apart i watched that with my girlfriend and i was caught she must have thought that i was in the fucking like ufc at some point because i was like calling every fight because
Starting point is 00:20:30 they were so easy to call i think you said it in one of your videos it's like we had a side versus c side all the way down the main card and it was easy to call not only the outcome but the method I was like, Rhonda by arm bar, less than 60 seconds. Watch this shit. Boom, 17 seconds. I go, it's over. She was looking at her phone. She's like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:20:48 It's over. I was like, that was it. You can't, you can't look away. Kyle, I don't know where this is coming from, but I don't like this newfound confidence that you can beat up an MMA fight. Oh, I disagree. Kyle and Professional Fighter, Kyle and Professional Fighter give him both six months, right? So this fight takes place November, 26.
Starting point is 00:21:06 He doesn't get six months. Don't do that. No, no, no. Hear me out. You, oh, no. No, he gets six months. Oh, I destroy Muhammad Ali. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Like, like, no sweat. No sweat. Yep. He's just bones now. He's all dried up now. He decided to put it off of Hamid Ali. Chuck Ladell would knock you out so quickly. Like, I saw that guy's hands in person.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It was like the kind of hands you would notice in public. Like, those are gnarled. They're like tree roots and they're enormous. Like, their, his forearms are still big and the hands are ridiculous at the end of them. Like that guy's throwing heat. He's got Lesnar hands. He is brain damage, though. Yeah, that helps. That means he doesn't know the word defeat, literally. My goal is to win. My goal is to survive a round. Okay. That's different what you were saying a while ago about you. We've backed up a little bit. Yeah, I don't think I could
Starting point is 00:22:01 defeat any of them. I would have to be hitting them to win the fight, like unless Nate D. is literally going to trip and hurt himself. I'd get fucked up by any of those people. I have, I suffer under no illusion. Who's the smallest woman? That's who I would pick. Like a hundred pound woman. Probably. I know. I'm going to go unranked with this. Like, I know, I know there's small women out there. And just hope that I could get a purchase on her wrist. Because if I get that, she's not going to get out. While I don't truly have any illusions that I could defeat any, even former UFC fighter, been asking, I could probably take. But I just had
Starting point is 00:22:38 double lung surgery, though. You're really picking on the down and out. I don't like the way you're making excuses for the professional fighters, right? I mean, it is true. I mean, it just died. I mean, it happens, though. Like, Jake Paul did knock these guys out. So it is this new thing where, like, if you're young and in your prime, it is over.
Starting point is 00:23:00 First, you guys are like, oh, boo-hoo, he's dead. Now you're like double lung transplanted. You just make it excuses for these people. Yeah, it's true. Ben Ascreen is hilarious. unthreatening on the feet. But he would grapple your ass off, though. You grapple a car?
Starting point is 00:23:14 No, no, not at all. Then it's over. Then he barrel up right now. I know he's gotten, his health is way better than it was, whatever, a year ago. Is he okay today? Is he? He's existing. He's like moving around and talking, but if I, I would not want him running at someone or
Starting point is 00:23:34 trying to exert himself in a crazy way. No. No. I wouldn't want to. that he had two no i don't think i can defeat any of these people i'm saying survive a round with them like and if i like like and those are the three if you're gonna throw poor ben asker it in uh hope he hope he doesn't improve i always like that guy um if i'm getting paid to survive around i'm picking nate dyes i i just like like god he looked bad he looked so bad and especially
Starting point is 00:24:03 i definitely could take i might even be able to defeat the nate dyes at the end of the fight. Like if they take the guy who couldn't get up off the stool who may have shit himself and then let me step in fresh, now I really like my chances. What about DC, but you've got like two pockets full to the brim of 10 days? I think DC could kill like any three of us combined almost. You know, like I feel like he would slam one of us. I remember when he picked, was it stepe he picked up and walked around with before losing to him? Yeah. He would do that to each of us. He could do that to two of us at once, I feel like. He's just such a low gravity.
Starting point is 00:24:39 He's a gravity well. Taylor, did you mention the chicken tenders as like a, that would be Kyle's advantage against D.C.? 100%. Because then you could toss them out to distract him. Yeah. But once he knows you've got them on you, that's just going to get more. Now there's something on the line for him.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I didn't think about that. Right. Now he's a prize fighter out there. Like fighting a tiger covered in bacon grease. This is a mistake. Yeah, exactly. Damn. Yeah. Gaghi says when it comes to fight in a professional fighter, how long you could survive.
Starting point is 00:25:11 It's like how long can you sprint for? Because that's the cardio that it is in the case. I have a different strategy. It's all about the pre-fight. Like I, hey, Nate, have you met my special needs son? I care for him.
Starting point is 00:25:27 That's the kind of thing that gets me to the third round. Your special needs, you got you know the struggles. He depends on me. This is something you should know going into the fight. I mean, that could work. But Nate's kind of got a bit of eye in him. Yeah, Nate might not be the guy.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Maybe we need like a Chal Sunnin or a DC or something. It's not even about their fighting ability. It's about their tender heart. Nate seems like a good guy, like behind the seams. Like, I really like those stories of Shane Gillis talking about hanging out with him. Those are really funny. Nate's quick to fight. though. He's likes to fight guy.
Starting point is 00:26:07 He is. He's always on the edge of being insulted and wanting to fight about it. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to be a stranger approaching Nate Diaz on the streets in New Orleans. You'll get guillotined and dropped like a bag of shit in the street. We saw him do that and that poor
Starting point is 00:26:23 random guy. I also think there's a thing with Nate where if you're a casual and you don't know MMA, you could look at him and think I could take that guy. Whereas with a lot of other, even if you look at Chuck Ladell these days at a bar, you would still think maybe I don't want to press his buttons. The Mohawk at 60 years of age, that's a statement.
Starting point is 00:26:41 He's like 54 with the Mohawk and he's like slurring when he's ordering his chicken tenders. You're like, that guy fights. That guy's ears are disgusting. Yes. That's a good sign. I think this was one of the best versions of Nate Diaz physically we've seen in a while. Like I think they're all juicing. Yeah, everybody on that.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Even Rhonda looked pumped up on something. Like she had her mean face on. or pouty face that never I never believe really you're angry I think the UFC fighters are juicing too they're just held back by having to pass tests yeah they can't go all the way
Starting point is 00:27:17 yeah and they exactly they there's limits on what they can do I do think there's a lot of natural fighters though I think it's honestly about like there's like 25% of them that are on some I really think the majority are would you change that percentage if we were just talking about people ranked in the top five
Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh yeah, probably Yeah But overall, I look at some of these guys And I'm thinking, yeah, there's If you're on source, this is pathetic, you know? You know who did it look at a lot? Help me with his name again. Cosmott Shemayev, how close to that?
Starting point is 00:27:50 That guy I have looked better in a mirror In the last few years than he did in the Octagon recently Are you guys just a bunch of absolute Gigacads? Am I getting the wrong impression from the PGA podcast. We all work out.
Starting point is 00:28:07 We're all pretty strong. Okay, cool. What he's got the six-pack rocking these days. Okay. Oh, my God. I have more stories to talk about with that. What do you go? In these stories about your six-pack, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 It's not bragging, but, uh, it's not much. We all benched. Was there more to the Chamea of tangent than you just look in better shape than him? That was the whole thing. Well, that and he really struggled to make, and gas out in the first round. And I think that, you know, this guy needed to have a lower body fat coming into the weight cut, and he may have had a better fight.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I don't think he gassed out. What? Yeah. Oh, that's me. That is you. That is a build. You have got abs. You have got a six-pack, I guess.
Starting point is 00:28:55 How old are you? I'm 53. Ferrin, you know what? Congratulations. Thank you. testosterone? No. He won't, I can't get either of them to get on the juice with me.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Like, it's like they don't watch professional sports or something like that. They don't want to be like their heroes for some reason. All right. Like, get on the sauce. Nobody's testing you. But on the Chamea topic. Yeah, on the Chameh topic, I don't think he gasped. I think it's just like the way he fights, if it is shut down, it is shut down all the way until he gets a chance to second wind himself.
Starting point is 00:29:31 He's all gas, no breaks. his first round, Kabib gets you into a dominant position and keeps you there. And he doesn't really have to work from that position and he can breathe. But Strickland did a really good job in round one against Chameh of making sure that anything Chameh got as an advantage. There was no breathing time. There was no time for him to just sit there and go,
Starting point is 00:29:51 like everything that Strickland did to defend him round one made Chameh have to jump to the next move to keep him there. You know, I see it differently. I recognize your M. me guru but kibb was like an anaconda with his grappling where you know he'd get a hold of your ankles and work his way to his knees and then your hips and just and then he'd work his way to his submission and he seemed to have the cardio to do more than just maintain position he could advance position and threaten submissions whereas fucking i'm retired um so mzat kamsat thank you i
Starting point is 00:30:25 appreciate the assistant but whereas kamsat my goodness like he gets the takedown and then all he wants to do his whole position. He doesn't advance really. He doesn't really threaten submissions very much. I know he went for the RNC. But by and large, he would just lay and pray all fight long if he could. And I think it's a cardio issue. But that's what he did against Strickus Duplessi because he could do that against Stricketts duplice. He could hold him down and breathe. But against Strickland, what I'm saying is that he couldn't hold down Strickland. No one can hold down Strickland. It was like a secret amongst MMA gyms. That's why a lot of the fighters, had picked Strickland
Starting point is 00:31:04 and it's probably a good thing they stopped fighters from being able to bet because I mean Masvedal retired from the UFC and he said he put a large large amount of money based on rumors that he heard yeah 100,000 on him at like 4 to 1, 5 to 1 or something
Starting point is 00:31:19 yep I can't remember Strickland being bested in grappling but I just didn't recognize that his defense Yeah true I just didn't remember his defensive grappling being that good.
Starting point is 00:31:34 DDP, though, I remember him just like, I swear he'd bend at the waist, run forward with the windmill punches. They'd land sometimes. Drickus is that guy. That's why it's so fun to watch him. Yeah, it's all damage. Like, you aren't the same guy you are in round two
Starting point is 00:31:50 if you've taken some big clobbering hooks off of DDP in round one, and that's why you may have had the approach that he did. But my whole overall stance is you didn't gas out if you're pushing Strickland back. and somewhat keeping close to his pace in rounds three, four, and five. Like, if that's Chameo gassed out, I don't want to see him when he's not gassed out, because he's going to be an absolute insane monster. Habib's a lightweight.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Chameev's a fucking middleweight. That's a huge difference in terms of keeping pace. Strickland is known to make people fight at his pace, and they can't really do it very often. Adasanya couldn't do it. A lot of fighters in the top of the division can't do it. And Mavov couldn't do it when Strickland took the fight on two weeks notice. So I think if Chameev was gassed How is he pushing forwards in round four
Starting point is 00:32:36 And jabs to the body in the head Like it was he did gas out But I think it was because of what Strickland did And not just because of some bad weight cut Fighters have bad weight cuts all the time I don't understand the bad weight cut Now this is where like obvious I know I can't fight Nate Diaz
Starting point is 00:32:51 But I can out weight cut him Like I've cut weight before And it's just not hard We saw the picture five minutes ago Yeah Yeah like I cut like I wish I could remember the exact number You weren't prepping for a flight
Starting point is 00:33:01 I cut like, yeah, but what's the difference? I was physically like going at it hard every day. I was running 5K every single day on a restricted diet and lifting heavy. And I cut like 15 pounds in a day or something like that. It wasn't a big deal. It wasn't a big deal at all. I went from like, I don't remember the exact numbers, but I went from like down to 160s, like down to the 160s from the 180s, like something like that. How tall are you?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Six two. Okay. So that's, yeah, you've still got some size on you, though. I used to wake up over the school holidays. By the last week of the school holiday, like over the school holidays, I'd really let myself go when I was younger. And then in the last week, I'd be like, let me just really trim this down. So the first day when I'm back at school, people are like, holy shit, it's a whole new
Starting point is 00:33:51 guru. And then within week two of schooling, I'm back to my general blobbish appearance. But it was a good disguise for at least a few days. at the start, you know, first impression. Your reveal, though, you're not nearly as chunky as people thought you were. No, I've got weight on me, but it's more like a fat guy you'd see on an NFL field type of shape. Like a lumberjack.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah. Like, I'd buy a pancake syrup if you were on the front. He's just a fellow moonface king. Yeah. I was trying to articulate it, right? Like, from the collarbone up, if I was to imagine the rest of your body, I would imagine it to be not as fit as it actually is. Yeah. Well, while sat down,
Starting point is 00:34:35 it is an unpleasant angle, I will say, but stood up, I think I've got a good old frame on me. I'm a bit of a frame merchant. Do you believe? I get away with a lot due to the frame, you know? Do you live? I don't really. When I have like a public appearance,
Starting point is 00:34:52 I'll do like a, again, like a three-week training camp, four week, like let me just pump some bicep curls and just, you know, feel like mentally good about myself, going into it. I don't really lift, to be honest with you. I'm just kind of big as I'm just kind of big to be honest with you. I don't know. It's a big grit naturally. Yeah, I think so. I think
Starting point is 00:35:11 I've got a bit of a strong man build, but I just sort of like squander. I'm a squandering man, I think. Yeah, like this is the picture. This is the first picture I think most of us saw this one that Woody just linked here of you next to Degrakes. Zach will have it up in a second.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, I feel like if you've lifted, you'd be enormously strong. You look like you're built to be powerful. You should. See? People watching. Is this what you thought he looked like? There's another one where I'm a bit wider on the right if you click that right button.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah, that one's better. But yeah, I noticed a deceiving pinch of the bottom of the shirt. Yeah, I noticed. It's a move. What did you do? The pinch at the bottom of the shirt, just to tuck that sort of waist in a little bit. Oh, yeah. Didn't take a second.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I've been there. I know. Wait a second. Pitching the bottom of the shirt should be legal. That doesn't work if your belly fills it. That is just exposing what you have. It's a black shirt and another excellent tool of our kind. Yes, it is. And also, Taylor would know, Taylor would know. I wore this shirt when I was way fatter. So the bottom of it is like flared out for my previous skirt. Basically. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a bit of quag fire. I definitely am a right-handed man. Yeah, I didn't notice until you pointed it out so that I know how you masturbate. You're flamed up a little bit to the right. Yeah. I mean, you just have the physiognomy of like one of the guys probably sitting in a bog that Julius Caesar saw, like invading Britannia back in the day. These people are insane.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah, face painted blue, eating cheese and milk, gigantic. This is great for my self-esteem. I'm glad I came on PKK today. Yeah. that's what i'm out in uh in public or i get pictured at like the gun show or whatever all the comments will just be like you know his head isn't as outrageously big as i thought it would be and people will be like it's still pretty fat and they'll be like true true it's like thanks for that i've got a massive cranium on me that's my big i have a giant head it's a real
Starting point is 00:37:28 Do you buy regular hats, like baseball caps? Or do you, do you like find hats for big heads? That's a fan cover. I've never been a hat man. And I think that that is sort of like a... I'm looking at you. You know, we can all see you. You're a hat, man.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Was that to me or Taylor, though? You're wearing your hat. Guru. Oh, I meant like a Taylor type of hat. This has been stretched to oblivion. To fit this brainium. But yeah, I know. I have a giant head.
Starting point is 00:37:57 It's what it is. You know, it comes with the territory here, the gold cranium on me. That's one of the hallmarks of a champion fighter. They carry that big old noggin around. They get a strong, thick neck. They don't take as much concussed damage when they get hit in the head. Makes a lot of sense, right? They have no neck.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Look at McConnell McGregor's head sometimes. Like, first of all, Connemar Greger, you talk about physiognomy? Look at his build. His hands are way too big for 145 pounds. His head way too big. Like, all that stuff. He's built very funny. If you were to go around Ireland,
Starting point is 00:38:33 and I don't know if you should be doing this, but if you were to go around island and look at teenage boys to decide who would be a top-level fighter, let me finish that. It's just a Saturday for me. Yeah. You would immediately point out like a 13, 14-year-old McGregor and go, oh, we should train him to be a fighter because he's arms,
Starting point is 00:38:54 a crazy long, he's got really broad shoulders. massive hands and massive cranium on him as well. Like he has definitely built for what he ended up doing. It's one of those cases. And this is a perfect segue because guess who's back? McGreg's back on the scene. I believe it when I see it, first of all. Like, he's got to show up and fight.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I won't even believe it fight week until he's in the cage. I bet not him. I literally bet Woody a small amount that that McGregor would win his fight. I think that Max might, look, I'm a huge Max Holloway fan. He's one of my top five guys all-time favorites. I really enjoy him. I love his boxing. I love his attitude.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I love when he points at the fucking ground and bangs it out. Yes. All great things. I love his Hawaii pride. I wish that UFC would do a Hawaii event just for Max Holloway. I wish all those things for him. But they don't have the infrastructure. But I think that he's kind of washed.
Starting point is 00:39:48 He's got a little CTE. Woody didn't notice it. But when I see his live streams when he's gaming and stuff, he's slurring his words. more than he used to. He's not as clear. He doesn't like hit all his consonants every time. Like he's, I think he's got brain damage. I think he has CTE. And I think that in that game, in professional fighting, you hit a wall and you were good last fight and now you're not anymore. Like even if you won the last fight and he didn't sometimes, they're not the same guy the next
Starting point is 00:40:19 fight. And I think that McGregor's been off for five years at least. I don't even, I don't been 10 years since was Obama president the last time he won last yeah last time he won that's the start right so he's been resting up yeah yeah he's been hibernating it says he beat donald seroni in 2020 oh man wow okay okay was that during the pandemic the donald serrani fight that's sure that was a crowd how quickly would crowd back during that's january 2020 so that was before it really right before yeah i think march is really you know kicked off those shoulder strikes that broke his nose and then that head kick and then the ground and pound it was a beautiful fight for a mcgregor fan i think serroney like submitted before the fight started i've never seen anyone else ever like get hit by shoulder strikes and stop fighting
Starting point is 00:41:10 they're the fucking toe stumps of m m mary right like they do them they try them but it never is actually effective yeah i mean serroney is that's the trademark serroney thing though um is that he will if you put pressure on him early he will break. That has always been the Soroni thing. So in hindsight, that was always going to be a first round, McGregor, over Donald Soroni. My favorite Soroni fight is one where he lost to Nate Diaz. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Middle finger. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So they both thought they were him. Both fighters were just like, this guy has the audacity to think he belongs in the octagon with me. And I was here for that energy. And, you know, before the fight, they're both like, motherfucker I'm gonna they thought they were gonna win they were excited to win they were like
Starting point is 00:41:59 it was they didn't like each other you know they they both thought the other guy didn't deserve the arrogance that he carried around and after two rounds Nate Diaz was piecing up Soroni it was just like and I think Nate Diaz flipped in the bird and Seroni goes yeah he got this look at yeah you got me you know here's where Soroni won me over then he answered the bell and he lost but he gave his best effort right he was like this next five minutes is going to be terrible but when it's not going to be filled
Starting point is 00:42:32 with cowardness and I love the heart of the fighters it's one of the things that makes me a fan and uh in that loss made me like him more yeah that Nate Diaz the for Soroni Kyle you ain't lasting around there he back then when he thought Michael Johnson I don't know if you remember that fight but he was in such
Starting point is 00:42:52 good shape for that fight and his hands were fast and actually he was the type of fighter compared to maybe nowadays where you go oh damn he's actually he can cause harm you know but watching him against mike perry i do agree it looked like a guy who couldn't hurt another human it i described it on twitter i believe as this feels like watching an old man get jumped by mike perry like he was getting battered around and he poohed himself in that fight if you i don't know if you saw the reports yeah i told the guys here he he he 80% sure he shit himself. He was bleeding so much.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It was hard to tell if that was shit on the stool or if that was blood. But there was something on the stool. And he was waddling around the whole fight. He'd been waddling since the second round. Like a guy with a crap in his pants. But I do like an idea. So I don't even like saying that.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I feel bad. It's like I'd have probably shit myself too, man. Mike Perry beat the fuck out of him. Watching Mike Perry like work though after his bare knuckle fighting like experiences that he's had, seeing him work those upper cuts in and just so often
Starting point is 00:44:00 uppercuts don't get through. People, people block them, people parry them, people get out of the way. Nate ate every one of those. And then the elbows, like these weird, like Muay Thai over the top, like diagonal slashing elbows he was throwing it. I was like, okay, he's not bleeding. Oh, he's bleeding now.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Like they all just started bleeding at the same time. It was like in a movie where someone's been shot, but they don't know it yet. And then everything starts, they opened their shirt and it's just red. And imagine going through all that and also having to poop. What a nightmare. What a total nightmare.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It was those early body shop that did it too. In his hair. Like nasty cuts. He's been cut so many times. They're just waiting for them to be opened up again, those cuts on the deals. But Mike Perry actually messaged me after that fight saying, you know, I watched your commentary back along with the fight and, you know, shout out to you and that. We were talking back and forth.
Starting point is 00:44:53 He didn't like that. I was a little bit critical, but I clid things up. We were chatting back and forth in the DMs about it, which was, which I was critical about. What did you, what were you critical about with him other than him? I had, I had just watched the UFC card because it was back and forth of the UFC that Netflix card. And the Netflix card, they will never admit this, but they were very clearly holding them back, ready for the walkouts until the UFC fight had a finish or went to a decision.
Starting point is 00:45:24 decision because I thought I was going to be having to watch two at the same time, but every time there was a break in the UFC, they would walk the Netflix MMA fight out immediately. Like, oh, there was a first round finish. Go Perry, go Diaz, walk out starts out. The inverse happened? Did the UFC also? No. Because the UFC pacing was very regular compared to what it normally was, whereas the Netflix one, they would have like a will be right back sign come up on the screen for like 15 minutes. But the reason why Perry was critical was because I was critical. saying because I just watched the UFC fly weights and the bansom weights and then I went to
Starting point is 00:45:59 watch in Diaz Perry and in the middle of it I went oh my god the skill level is completely changed here watching this fight and he was like something about skill level changed what did you mean by that and I went oh this is what I meant because those light of weight guys in the UFC that's where skill that's where the highest skill in the sport is Mike Perry's fly weights and that didn't he fight pretty light what did he fight in the UFC do you know well to win 5 17 he's real well to Yeah, one-sev-old. Yeah, he's a tough cunt. I like Mike Perry, BKFC.
Starting point is 00:46:29 All about action. Those are the fighters we need more of, man. It's kind of something that's going away from the UFC. You mentioned it with Diaz versus Sorona. There's so few fighters now that are there to just put on a fucking scrap and really get bloody and batter each other. There's some good ones still in the UFC, like Yeri is there, but we don't have that the effort of them.
Starting point is 00:46:49 What do you reckon? My thought is this. If grappling is the current men, meta, I would hate to have UFC champions knowing there's seven guys in Dagestan that could beat them. Like open the doors, let the best win. If they're not using fucking elbows to the cheekbones to get it done, then they're not using elbows to the cheekbones to get it done for a reason. There's something else that's more effective. And the meta will shift again. It seems to be happening right now. I'm, I just want the toughest guys on the planet to hold the belt.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I didn't, I didn't say that it shouldn't be that way. I'd just say that I miss guys like Perry. Okay. Yeah. When it was back in the day, before this new, like, you have to be perfect to everything, sort of evolution thing. It used to be a lot more of like, there would be a Mike Perry on the roster, who was just some tough cunt from, from where, where's he St. Louis or Flint, Michigan?
Starting point is 00:47:44 I think he's from Flint, Michigan. And he's just off the, he's a street fighter. We don't see those. Street fighters. Yeah, we don't see those street fighters turned MMA fighters. They're MMA kid prodigies that go on like that. There's less of that story of like the guy from the streets is made his way. I'm telling you this because you're not American. You might not know.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Flint, Michigan is famous for one thing. Lead in the water. It's lead in their water system. It's a flammable water. I think they fixed that to their credit. I think it's been fixed since then. but we could also perhaps imagine that Mike Perry was a product of it. I've heard Flint water used.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I've heard Flint's water used to describe disgusting swamper, basically. It's poison. It's poison. I like real beef. That was my biggest thing when I came away from the Strickland comm Zipai. I was annoyed that they're all buddy, buddy at the end. I hated that. Like, I was, like, I don't know what Strickland's thinking in that moment.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Like, you got a, you got to double. down in the in the in the in the in the in the in the in the post fight you don't tap his glove pre-fight don't don't touch gloves don't don't clap each other in the back between rounds like and at the end of it be like that's what you get you gop fucker that's what you get that's what you fucking double down you say some hardcore shit i destroyed you like palestine like go after this guy well i i i don't condemn strickland for doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I don't condemn Strickland for doing that, but I do admit I would have liked him to have kept the, uh, theatric going for a potential rematch. Um, because they're talking about potential rematch, but now it's like, well,
Starting point is 00:49:31 you just kind of made up. But I, I don't condemn him for like the way he behaved in that broken, emotional. Because you Strickland never thinks he's going to win is a big thing with him. You know, he's the underdog shitting himself backstage. So he has that moment of proving himself.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It's just like, yeah, give a handshake. He ruined the, what is it called K-Fabe? Yeah, he broke K-Fabe. Yeah. Where it's like, Do you know who Jerry Lawler is? Jerry Lawler was a wrestler who had beef with a comedian named Andy Kaufman back in the day,
Starting point is 00:50:00 like 80s or something like that. They had a fake beef going on where, and there was a moment in the middle, and like Jerry Lawler is a professional wrestler, and Andy Kaufman was doing this bit where he would wrestle women. Like, and not- You would wrestle any woman. Any woman. And he would cut these WWF promos.
Starting point is 00:50:20 He was like, I will fight any woman in the country. I don't show mercy. And then he would like throw some like 50 year old broad on the ground and like tap her out. And like Jerry Lawler's like, I don't like you touching these women. How about you fought a real man? And they've got this beef going on. Oh, they're going to fight in like some WWF wrestling ring in the South somewhere. And then it got to a point where Andy Kaufman looks like it.
Starting point is 00:50:47 He looks like a just slug comedian. Yeah, just a go. They're going to go on like the Tonight Show, like the Carson Show or something like that. And they're on the phone with each other before it. And he's like, you know, they want us to, I figured tonight, they want us to squash the beef. You know, we shake hands and we agree to be friends. And Coffin's like, no one's going to watch us fight if we become friends. What if you just hit?
Starting point is 00:51:13 What if you just slugged me for real? and you watch the playback, Jerry Lawler punches this little comedian in the face like he's trying to kill him on the set and knocks into the fucking ground. And of course, like, he does the cowardly thing. He runs around with a neck brace saying he's going to sue him.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And it builds and builds and builds. They made a ton of money with that. That's what you got to do. You don't ever squash the beat. It's always dead. It's always war. It's always hate. And when I saw that, I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:44 fuck, man. I was sweating. I couldn't watch the fight. I didn't watch the fight. I was sweating, getting updates on Reddit, like refresh, refresh,
Starting point is 00:51:53 on the bench. Using their comments to gauge how the fight was going. And in the second round, they were like, USA, USA, USA! USA!
Starting point is 00:52:00 And I was like, oh, I turn on Paramount. It's like, oh, oh, it's happening. It was a great night for me.
Starting point is 00:52:08 It seems like the same thing happened with Ronda Rousey and that big titty bitch where, like, as soon as the fight ended, they were like fucking Clooney and Brad Pitt at the end of Oceans 11
Starting point is 00:52:20 like hugging It was anti-beam It was literally like Rhonda saw Gina get got cancelled from Disney Because she compared COVID restrictions To the Holocaust And That was enough to get you canceled back in 2020
Starting point is 00:52:33 Oh yeah she lost her Mandalorian show Like she was on like a big show She lost it the movies that are coming afterwards She got fired from Disney You got black with it and all that She ended up doing those like silly movies with Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro type shit.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And, yeah, and Ronda's like, felt bad and was like, man, we'd make a ton of money if we fought, but she was pregnant at the time. So a couple years go by and they made the fight happen. And there you go. Gina gets $1.2 million, I think, something like that. It was a payday for Gina. Although Gina settled with Disney for an undisclosed amount. Who knows what they paid her for that?
Starting point is 00:53:09 I think at least tens of millions would be. I hope so. Enough for Ozampic. She lost a hundred pounds, she said. That's such a big number. Well, I wasn't a hundred. I don't know if it was a hundred.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Dude, she was. I think they'd make it up. She did. She was porker status. Oh, maybe. Actually, now I'm thinking about,
Starting point is 00:53:31 yeah, dead poor Jean, I actually preferred Gina Carano that way. That's a hot take from my dead poor Gina Carano, little butch. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Let me see this. Now, Zach, can you also find? deadpool gino carano i i can't picture i didn't notice her yeah so we we're talking like season two of the mandolaria jena carano who's wearing a cumberbund and then after she got fired she really gained like another 50 60 pounds because i saw her on some podcasts and she looked very this is jerry law and andy pothan diana really was looking bad huh yeah that's what gurner thinks is
Starting point is 00:54:08 fuck about that was it's a minute ago or something insane like that we had to load it up lay alone. Okay, and also I can see, just looking at this, this is significantly wider than the file shared. That's not a hundred pounds bigger either. I don't think. For sure. Yeah, no, there, I think she was heavier than this during the filming. Like, not obviously at this day, but like, during her court tenure on the show, she got much bigger. Yeah, yeah. This is, this is Deadpool, as he said. Oh, that. Oh, okay. Now I understand. I didn't really, I thought it was Mandalorian. Yeah, yeah. And I agree with the guru.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Ain't nothing wrong with this. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. He may be biased on this topic, too. I'd like to steer spin a little bit. I want to see her fend over. I want to see that nice. I've always fancy Gina Karano, though.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I don't know if you, back in the old days of M.M.A. When she was looking at the camera in the crowd, I was like, who is this? I was like that Lego Man meme that they post as the GIF of just enamored by Gina Carrano at one point as a young man. Yeah. She's like you. better looking than every other fighter at the time. There's only like three good looking like UFC fighters anyway.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And she was always one of the best looking. There's way more than three. There's more now. There's like a, there's quite a hefty amount on the unwrault. Costa or Costa. Oh, I was.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Oh, now we're going to limit it. Okay. Luke Fok cold. Okay, let's keep it going. Conner's a handsome guy. Who was that one thing who looks like a Russian propaganda post? Kale, something? that.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Kale Sonner? No, it was that guy who was super like blonde and handsome and jacked. Oh, stage Northcut. Stage Northcut. That's super saying.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Stage. Yeah, he's gone now. That's in. He might be best looking guy ever to be in the UFC. I mean, he's just like a genetic experiment. I don't know if you have to be talking about
Starting point is 00:56:07 the girls to any time. Yeah, we can watch it about. I just shifted right off. Everston. he's gone now that sage he's he's out of the mix now i haven't heard it for him he quit he got knocked out in uh one fc by cosmo alexander because one fc have nasty kickboxes that's one of my new favorite pastimes even though i don't cover it much i'm always watching the one fc kickboxing because they're such crazier fights than the ufc people always say when you watch ufc if you don't like this
Starting point is 00:56:36 go watch kickboxing and i'm like i literally do and i go okay yeah i will i'll go watch one F.C. for a weekend and get my mood back up. But yeah, this Cosmo Alexander guy. He isn't even the best in his realm, but he was really good. I think he broke Sage Northcott's face in about five places. It did. Yeah, he shouted his orp the old, put his cheekbone in, broke his jaw, like, it was really bad. It was a brutal clip. Is K1 still going? Huh? Is K-1 still going? Is that it the top? I don't know. I don't know. Glory is kind of the statement, kickboxing promotion right now.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Or a kickboxing where Alex Pereira came from, Adasania, all of these guys. Yes. And experiences like that tell me, there are people on earth who could walk into the UFC and with a little experience become champions. And I don't like that. I think the UFC, like every other organization should be like, yeah, yeah. Thank God they can't grapple here. You know, thank God there are rules that protect me from these well-rounded killers.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And if that's not true, then get them in the UFC so that they're the champions. Yeah. The UFC cut Mohammed Makayev who would have, there's a good chance he would have gone on to become another Dagestani flyweight champion on the roster. Like he was a really good well-rounded grappler. He wasn't the most exciting, but he wasn't as boring as the others. But he was really not, they had some disagreements backstage or something. The story never came out.
Starting point is 00:58:07 But they basically cut him after a win when he entered the top five. and I always said, like, yes, I'm glad that he's gone because I want better styles to exist at the top, but that should happen via them being beaten in the cage, in the octagon. That's the way it should happen. It shouldn't be that, oh, this guy might become a champion in his style. Let's get rid of him, you know? Like, find me a guy to knock him out. And then that's the way it should be done.
Starting point is 00:58:35 That's the way it should be handled. I agree with you. I agree with you. I mean, you know, something. I think he committed suicide in the desert. Do you know this guy? Evan Tanner. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Yes. Anyway, he used to talk. He's like, you know, when you're on the rise or when you're in the amateurs, it's about winning. But once you become like an established pro, it's only half about winning and it's half about entertaining, which ties into the way Kabib talks. And that guy,
Starting point is 00:59:05 he makes his fighters learn English. I don't know how well they're doing it. But he, he instructs, I'm like, you've got to learn English. That is a big part of this job. It's not just the kicks and punches. It's the microphone work too. And I found Khabibb endearing. I don't know how much you like him. But I liked him on the mic.
Starting point is 00:59:22 He had this, it's almost like he was taking a remedial test while the other guy's taking AP calculus because, you know, his opponent would talk all this trash. And he's like, it's not 20 time. It's Kabeep time. And I'm like, oh, nailed it. Killed him. Killed him. In reality, that's not that hard to come up with.
Starting point is 00:59:39 This guy has a fake belt. But when they talk, when I fight they win, then I tell him, tell him, then. And then everyone's, oh, wow, what a classic one-liner. Right, right. But in reality, it's just delivered with an accent and the timing is kind of good. And it doesn't learn the preposition.
Starting point is 00:59:56 But imagine if Alex Pereira came out with just a basic, simple shit talking land in English, it would go on. That's just the way it is. If Alex Pereira said to, I mean, I don't know, if Cyril Garme would talk shit. But let's say him and Tom Aspenow got into it for a bit. And Pereira just went,
Starting point is 01:00:13 shut the fuck up, pussy boy, man. I go to knock you out cold, man. People would love that, but he still refuses to shift in his stance of not using the English language, I guess. I remember when Connor was like, if it was the old days, I would storm your keep with a battle axe,
Starting point is 01:00:34 but it is a new age. So I will destroy you in the octagon on Saturday. He's like, bring up this like warrior ancestry that he supposedly has and like hitting off that. Yeri kind of does that a little bit,
Starting point is 01:00:47 but with somebody else's ancestry, I'm okay. Yer he's a bit of a samurai. Really, because you sound Polish. It's like the world's toughest weirdo is kind of
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yuri. Yeah. I love that from McGregor as well. He wants a piece of that title, but we'll see. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, Israel
Starting point is 01:01:09 Ades Sanya. Wasn't he a bit of a wibu, a little anime guy? Oh, the last style bender? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:15 he used to do like the death note thing before his fights. He would write people's name in there. That was marketable, to be honest. I reached a whole Japanese autistic black audience. There's a big group
Starting point is 01:01:27 I never understood what he was doing with his hands. I thought it was like he was doing some Hadoon shit. He was. Yeah, it looked like he was. And look, there's a big group.
Starting point is 01:01:37 bigger than you would imagine, I think, of like, extremely, like, casual fans who are like, wait, is this guy like a Shaolin monk or something? Because that's, I don't know how this, this beefy wrestler is going to handle a Shaolin monk. What if he, like, tears the skin off his forehead or, or he uses some sort of, Hadoogan monkey style. Yeah. What if he, the monkey grabs the peach? I don't think there's any rules against these things. Like, I mean, did they work? I don't know if the rules are the only holding the issue, right? But if you could reach through a guy's chest and pull it out Indiana Jones Temple of Doom style,
Starting point is 01:02:18 then I think there's no rules against it. They're like small digit manipulation. Can't do that. Grabbing the heart from a chest. As far as I know, that's cool. Yeah, it's cool. Pressure points, I think, would have been used by now if they did exist in the world. I'm not sold on the pressure point thing.
Starting point is 01:02:34 I've never seen anyone use a pressure point intentionally. But remember when Shigashon took that weird, like, nerve impact on his leg and, like, his whole leg went numb. It's like, you could do that on purpose. Clearly, no one can. Then that would be the most effective move in all of MMA. You just cripple people with a single strike. For a while, Rogan acted like calf kicks were, you know, the ultimate weapon in all fighting. These really light touches just below the knee were, you know, making people unable to walk again.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And then that meta didn't last long. I don't know. No, people figured it out. People figured out because the one FC kickboxes figured it out. And then they studied, bro. You know, they studied. Okay. And they figured it out.
Starting point is 01:03:18 They figured out calf kicks. But Rogan still fucking talks about the calf kicks. That's all he fucking said. I, I've seen maybe five fights ever won by leg kick. And Rogan, every time there's a leg kick is like falling out of his chair. I'm like, stop it, you fucking thumb. Yeah, one more of those.
Starting point is 01:03:36 We're all trouble, folks. Never happens. Never happens. And they ever talk about that these guys are breaking their feet, throwing those, like so regularly. True. At the end of one of those battles where the guy throws, call it 10, 15 leg kicks, and we're going to be like, he really should have not gotten away from those leg kicks in the later round. It's like, dude, his feet are broken.
Starting point is 01:03:57 He's been kicking a guy, and he's going bone-on-bone with the power of two professional athletes for 20 minutes. His feet are broken. and you'll see them after the fight their feet will be swollen up three times too big like a pregnant woman I don't know they should have some sort of foot wraps or foot pads or something
Starting point is 01:04:14 you can have an ankle sleeve brace it's got some thickness to it but they don't wear it they love the fighters they want the most flexibility possible in every position it's the same reason why they don't fix for eye pokes is because they
Starting point is 01:04:31 would have to not be able to extend their fingers all the way and grappling moments. Like it's, they want that freedom of limb manipulation. Also, I feel like if I grappled a guy who had on like ankle sleeves, it'd be another grip. Like,
Starting point is 01:04:44 it'd be a little less slippery than sweaty skin. And I could slip a thumb in there and get a better grip than just around the radius or diameter of it. Yeah. They don't do that makes sense. Broken feet is, UFC has taught me that maybe a broken foot isn't that bad because, as you said, so many fighters break their feet.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And you would never know. are not that bad. Small bones suck at healing, but everyone acts like breaking bones is super painful and it's not. Yeah, I lost, I have a titanium elbow. I have a whole fake elbow in my arm,
Starting point is 01:05:15 made out of metal. And when it happened, I literally walked to my friend's house. My elbow fell out of my arm on the floor, on this concrete. And I was on my way to my friend's house. I went there, we played,
Starting point is 01:05:28 yeah, we played Hela. I didn't hear what you said, Taylor. He said, he had a terrible surgeon. How did your elbow fall out? No, no, no, in the incident, of course.
Starting point is 01:05:37 That's how you got to hear. I don't understand how, I don't understand the mechanics of this injury. You were just walking and your elbow fell out? No, I was, I was 15, I think 15, 14. There were these older girls sitting on this, like, grassy area. And I was like, I honestly think I invented mewing because I was like keeping a cool side profile while I was going down these concrete steps. And I was like mewing like protruding my jaw and just trying to look really cool and keep my sort of like I'm going to look like cool guys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then one of the concrete steps crumbled under my tremendous girth. And my foot just went through it. And I slid down this railing and ended up elbow dropping the floor like the concrete floor with the way that I landed. And my whole elbow fell out. And I looked at it in like a car window.
Starting point is 01:06:32 reflection and thought, oh, my arm's completely fucked. And then I went to my friend's house and he said, now you're fine. And we played Halo for like an hour. And we were playing. See? And then the plane overtook you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And then his dad came in and saw it and went, your elbows dislocated and he started trying to put it back in. And I was like, then I started really feeling pain. And I got taken to hospital in the back of some African man's cab. When you fell, though, because there were girls and you were trying to look neat, like after the initial fall, did you get up like, I don't even care.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, yeah. Just keep walking. I got out, brushed myself. I immediately, it was like this weird level of stoic. I channeled myself in such a way to not show weakness there. Even a woman walking past with a pram checked up on me because I must have looked like I had just seen a ghost. Like, yeah, in my eyes. But I think I played it off well, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I think I handled it pretty well. Did you get pussy from any of those girls? No, I just. did not. I did not get pussy from. But the surgery. Did they like remove your elbow like by the bicep and by the form and then replace it with the metal one? They put a new cap in my arm, two rods, a plate, and then they drilled it or something.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Like they drilled them in. And then they took the drill parts out later on. But if I go through an airport security thing, it's going to beep off because it's like a, it's almost like a protective shell of what the elbow cap. Really? Yeah. I don't know if you can see it. On the broken bone thing?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a new profile. It goes all the way, though. I was playing men's league hockey, and it was playoffs. And in this league, you could show up to the game before years or after years. And if they had the wrong number of players, like 11 is a bad number for a team. Nine, it's not a very, you know, you'd rather be at 10 or 12.
Starting point is 01:08:30 And they would pick up someone from another team and they just joined. Anyway, Puck hit the side of my foot and broke it. And I played five periods on a broken foot, like two for that team and then three for my own. And then it does help that the boot is really tight on a skate and kind of held it together. Once I removed the boot, the limp was a lot worse. But the point is, broken bone sounds like the worst thing ever and it looks bad. But as far as pain goes, it's pretty low on the list.
Starting point is 01:09:01 As long as there's not a real snap, like you're probably going to be okay for it. You can handle it, you know. Yeah. Not a compound fracture. Really? Would you agree? My ankle.
Starting point is 01:09:10 ankle. I felt in, I heard an audible pop when it did it. And it was, I thought the bone was going to be sticking through my leg when I looked down. I was afraid to look down because they were such a loud like concussive pop. And I could feel it and hear it. And I'm laying out there in the baseball field screaming.
Starting point is 01:09:29 it was the best part as I could hear my mom so clearly through the crowd go no like a movie and that was embarrassing and then like by the time we got to the hospital they were like yeah it's you know maybe this and that
Starting point is 01:09:46 and they sent me home and that night I woke up with like the worst pain I woke up with it every heartbeat was like a dagger like down into like the like inside of the ankle joint It felt like you were wiggling a dagger every time my heart would beat and it was broken pretty badly. I had to wear a boot for weeks and weeks.
Starting point is 01:10:06 But it wasn't surgical? No. Yeah, just needed a boot. You could probably take me. Do you remember what the soft tissue injury was? Was there any? Yeah, it was a bad sprain. Like that was part of it too.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Did they call it a high ankle sprain? Do you know? I don't know. It's been too long. I was in ninth grade, something like that. Yeah. That's all the lead. I slitted in the plate and like the metal cleat caught on the plate and it made my foot like,
Starting point is 01:10:37 made my right foot go out like away from my body bending that way. Like if your right foot bends away from center, not towards center. Okay. It bent that way all, almost all the way around until it popped and broke. Yeah. I learn anatomy by getting hurt and I haven't had that injury. So I don't know. I break my ankles by twisting them, not that way, not by rolling them.
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Starting point is 01:13:12 And also, if you're listening on YouTube still and you're like, this isn't as convenient as I would like, check us out on Spotify. Listen to us on Spotify, if that's more convenient for you. helps the show. And have a yabba dabba do time. And have a yabba do time. I thought I'd give a closing statement. Yeah, I disagree that Kyle says breaking bones is painful. I'm not a baby. I broke my nose a couple times. And it was like walk in the park. The scary part was the amount of the amount of the amount about your nose. No,
Starting point is 01:13:44 I ain't not bad. Shattered my nose twice. How many times you broke your nose? Did you have, well, just the once, but did you have to have surgery for? years? Both times. Yeah, I just had it but one time, but like, it didn't hurt. And I told you, I used to have a bigger nose, like a big nose hump. And when I was like in middle school, or maybe this was the grade school one, I don't recall, my mom literally, while I was in surgery, told the surgeon, like, just shave that down while you're in there. And he was like, we'll do. She got me a nose jump up though. Yeah, she did. You go to the rest of your life more handsome than you were otherwise going to.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Thank God. I need everything. Like a member of me. Yeah. How you just like the rest of us, Goyim. I could have got a little foreign aid if I had to lose. How did you break it? Like somebody? Me?
Starting point is 01:14:39 Oh, who are you talking to? I guess I'm trying to Taylor, but we can all do it. The first time I broke it, I was seven or eight. My brother, I guess, was five or six. and we were playing tag, and we're only a year and a half apart. And I was sprinting through the basement, and he was sprinting the other direction. And I was much larger than him at the time.
Starting point is 01:15:01 And so his forehead just collided with my nose, shattered it. The other time in middle school, we had to shut down half the court because I was bleeding so much, because it seemed to break along the same scene that it broke the first time. And then it also shattered a couple other places. We were playing basketball. and this dickhead on my own team, on my own team, ripped down a rebound and then started throwing bows to like create space and he broke my nose.
Starting point is 01:15:32 And it just like, the first one, the first one, there was a good bit of blood, but the second one, it was like my nose exploded. Like the whole key was full of blood at the basketball rink. Or basketball court. Yeah, really seemed like a basketball head there. And now, yeah, next up at Broken Nose Anonymous. Woodley, Woody, you haven't any So twice it's happened in fights.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Once it was punched and kind of non-consequential. Twice it happened in, I was wrestling my dog, Dakota. He was a yellow lab, like 130 pounds. And I don't know, I was just kind of like hugging him from behind, like kissing him, like that top of his head between his ears and stuff. And then he arched back and broke my nose. And being a slow learner, that happened another time too. But one time I got punched.
Starting point is 01:16:19 punched in the nose. That was the worst. And we're all like, ah, nose punches are no big deal. This was like the lead up to a fight. It's the one where my arm was in a sling paralyzed from surgery and my friend talked trash and got me in trouble. And I put my arm to like hold my friend back while the other was in a sling. And that's when the guy punched me in the nose. Broke it bad and completely removed any fight spirit that I had. I just I just bent over at the waste and I was in all at the amount of blood that was coming out. And it was in a parking lot. So like, I must have filled like half a parking space with my blood puddle from my nose. And an ambulance came and took me and everything like I was a real wreck. But that's when I was like, man, I, I'm like one punch away from being the biggest pussy ever.
Starting point is 01:17:13 And like, it might be that everybody is. I'm not sure. But I, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, three times, no biggie. That time, I had no fight left in me. One punch I was cooked. I couldn't see. My eyes immediately filled with tears of like, like, like, like, I wasn't like crying, but it was just like, I mean, I was, but it was like,
Starting point is 01:17:33 I could control it. Like the impact on my nose, like squeeze my tear ducts. And like, just, and then it hurts real bad. And then of course you've been hitting the head. So you're a little out of it anyway. Yeah, it was, it took me completely out of the fight as well, Woody. There was no fight after that. I was like, I guess you win.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I didn't know that was an opening move that was, I should have done that. Duche. You saying that the dog throwing the head back thing reminded me of something I haven't thought about since I was a kid. Me and my younger brother and my mom were in like our minivan driving home from school. And I was in the backseat for some reason, even though I'm older, I should have been the front seat. And my younger brother like was in some sort of, I don't know. It wasn't even like an angry fight. It was like some sort of affectionate tussle with my mom,
Starting point is 01:18:24 like a hug or something before we'd taken off to get out of there. And he threw his head back the same way your dog did. And he knocked out both of my mom's front teeth. And she had fake teeth. And so then like the whole way home, my mom's like, he knocked my teeth out. You knocked my teeth out. And she's got all over.
Starting point is 01:18:45 He should have mocked her. Oh, do you had no teeth, mom? You have no teeth? Yeah, but I just remember like how unnerving that was to like watch her driving us home. Just blood all over her teeth gone. And I think she dropped us up at home and then she went to like the emergency dentist. Yeah, we're more fragile than we like to think. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Pretty easy to break. No broken noses over here in bottom right corner of the screen. It looks like a nose that should be really easily breakable. It's a small dainty nose. I've been hit so many times hard in the nose and it has never broken. My brother, he would test WWE moves out on me at times. And at one point he hit me with the, what's the one where the, I know it's the rocks move. But he like runs over the bottom.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Yes, the people's elbow. Is that when he runs over them? He runs over them like one way, no way. He doesn't go wind up where he runs back and forth and then he does an elbow drop. Yeah, it might be the five knuckle shuffle as well, though. But he would run back and forth. And instead of a people's elbow, he'd like jump and two foot curb stomped my face while I was winded on my back. You know, and you, I was like struggling to breathe on the ground.
Starting point is 01:20:07 And he, in the process of me, like, thinking I'm going to die of not being able to breathe on the ground, I see him, one, two, running over my body, setting up a dark. And he just completely two-foot stomped my face in. And it didn't break my nose. It really did make my nose bleed. But somehow, I mean, I've done taekwondo for like nine years. I've been spinning kicked in the head. And I know, the shoulders don't break. Ronda Rousey claims her nose is unbreakable. She was on like a late night show. Do you know this interview? I've seen her late night trauma. I don't remember who the host was, right? Call it Fallen or something. But she's like, yeah, my nose. It pushes all the way in.
Starting point is 01:20:46 And then he pushed her nose and he's like, wow. Yeah. Like it can just smush like a Nerf nose or something. Mine doesn't, but I don't know. It's just, I guess, reinforced to protect how dainty is. What was your thing there, Taylor? What was your question? I wanted to know how much older your brother is than you to have done two head stomp.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Or three and a half years older. So this would probably been when I was eight and he was 11 turning 12, something like that. I was eight turning nine. Anyone else have older brothers in here? It's being spirited. I am the older brother, and I wouldn't have done that. I only accidentally gave my brother two concussions. And one of them probably wasn't even a real concussion. He was just a baby and what's the hospital. But the first one- Is the wagon incident in this one? No, because that wasn't a concussion. No, but we were mimicking moves from WWE 98 on the N64 in our concrete unfinished basement. And I picked him up and I slammed him. And he, he got a little rattled he got knocked around
Starting point is 01:21:49 you could have saw that all right he was a lot of noise and then my he's in the fencing response on the floor he was like come on stop snoring
Starting point is 01:21:57 not nap time not quite that but it was it was closer to that than like normal like he was he was fucked up and my dad came down
Starting point is 01:22:06 screamed at me he got furious took him to the hospital came came back home later with him and I got what for from my dad if I had a brother
Starting point is 01:22:13 one of us wouldn't survive like we'd have been like daring each other to do stuff like I was already like wild to the point where like if somebody dared me to do something like I would do almost anything um and so if I'd had a little brother or even a big brother to be like competing with and one uping each other like we'd have jumped off the house until one of us was crippled or something like that you know what I mean like when jackass came out I immediately started making jackass videos like like rolling down the
Starting point is 01:22:42 hill and jumping in bushes and electrocuting ourselves and that was on my own phone. That was just me. I remember when park, when parkour became a sensation on YouTube and everyone was doing their little like hops over a fence that felt really cool but were really pathetic looking back at him. Woody, do you have any
Starting point is 01:22:59 brothers at all or is it just me and Taylor here? I have an older brother. He's two years older. Right. So, as an old brother, Taylor, but Woody and I as the younger brothers, did he, when you were in a swimming pool with him, did he try to drown you thousands of times over? Is this a thing?
Starting point is 01:23:15 or my brother thing. I was telling this to my stream the other day. Yeah, so my brother had his way with me, you know, in the living room, at the house, outside the backyard, etc. But you tickled my little domain there. No, in the pool, I was just fine. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Well, Mike and you still like, like, there was a funny banter thing in the UK, I guess. I don't know if this happened in the US or if any audience members, I have an older brother out there, where they would bring you to the bring, of drowning and then let you live. That was the fun of the game in any swimming pool was like,
Starting point is 01:23:52 ha ha, I could have drowned you there, but I didn't and you're still with us. But I remember in swimming pools, fearing for my life that out of nowhere, my ankle would be grabbed and I would be dragged into the depths and held there until there was like, I was on one HP basically.
Starting point is 01:24:11 And other brothers and older people at like these holiday places. My family would go to like an abroad holiday in Spain once every two years for a week. And all the older brothers would be doing it today, younger siblings, just like momentarily drowning them. And then like taking turns with us. Like it was like a bonding thing. Like my brother would have done it to me. And then now I'm being drowned by this random kid from Liverpool. Like it's his turn to like drown me as fun. Like it was a really weird thing. I don't know if anyone else. That's pretty ruthless. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:45 The only time I remember holding people underwater was, and it wasn't just like a younger brother thing, is when we play pool basketball, and pool basketball very quickly becomes wrestling. And so someone just has the ball locked in and you're trying to get it from them and you can't really get a purchase on the ball because it's smaller than a regular basketball. It's like a little rubber. You can really grab it. And so you just have to like hold them underwater. And this happened to me too. I'd be held underwater until I was just like, let go with the ball, let it float to the top, get back. up, you know, go to the edge, breathe.
Starting point is 01:25:17 And then like 20 minutes later, your mom would bring out sandwiches. And then you go out there, eat those as fast as possible, get back in. It was about being brought to the brink of drowning. Because I said it at the end there, I never did drown. So they really were good at what they did. I weirdly admire the craftsmanship. They made me singles. Yeah, yeah, true.
Starting point is 01:25:40 That's true. Nobody gets SGA treatment in pool basketball, right? It's nothing but roughhousing. No. That was the best kind of basketball, pool basketball. Because if you were the biggest kid, you could just be like the juggernaut and just like walk. I'd love to watch professional pool basketball. Like I wonder what kind of archetypes.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Would there be the swimmer, right? The dolphin who just like goes and gets the other side of the court quickly. It'd be like rugby where there's like room for all sorts of different body types, I bet. Yeah. It'd be fun and then like a Dagestani wave of pool basketballers would show up and hold you against the filter for a while. Put your mouth on the jet until you're full. Do you remember swimming next to those jets as a kid and it rushing your dick and being like,
Starting point is 01:26:35 ooh, don't mind that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right as a kid. I always put mine in the filters. Yeah, yeah, that's a whole long ago. Oh, with the dead frogs, gross. Yeah. With the dead frogs. Dude, I got an outsuit to my backyard with all the adults we find.
Starting point is 01:26:54 We had bullfrogs. There would be like bull frogs in the filter. So you pop that little top, you know, in the concrete. And he'd like jump out like as big as your fist. Like we had the really big ones in my, my dad's pool. Oh, damn. We never, I never got drowned by a kid, but there was a dad, like, like somebody else's dad nearly drowned me once and my my dad cussed him out and uh and threatened to drown him at the
Starting point is 01:27:18 party um that that was the end of that barbecue. You did it sour the mood. Good old Lamar laid it down. He had like, it was a grown man. When I came up, I'm like, what was he thinking? Like, like, if he was like wrestling with you or something and he's like a family friend, I'd be down for it. But it is your obligation to make sure that that kid is enjoying this. I was not enjoying it. I was afraid for my life. I was 11 and 12, maybe tops.
Starting point is 01:27:44 It was nice. No, he should have switched to the movie, like, throws you in the air and lets you splash. Yeah, I still can fill the panic in my heart of not being able to get to gather oxygen. Jesus Christ. It's one of the scariest things that I think that's the scariest thing. Like, like drowning or almost drowning is terrifying. Yeah. You were talking to me, I know Woody's a fucking Aquaman.
Starting point is 01:28:07 I often wonder how you do it that Navy SEAL pool training because they do some. interesting stuff. There's one where they have to go down to the bottom of like a 10 or 12 foot deep pool and they have to tie knots. There's like a weight down there that needs five different knots tied on to it. And they're, you know, I don't know, some sort of navy knots. Who knows? But there was a guy who drowned down there. He goes unconscious. They have to bring him up, CPR him back. And he's like, oh, God, did I fail? I'm so sorry. He's like so bummed out. You're like, well, I mean, you didn't tie the knots, but you didn't stop until you died. That's exactly what we're looking for.
Starting point is 01:28:43 I love that. It's like, you think knot tying is very important around here? I don't know. It's true. There's another Navy SEAL training story where the guy like desperately wanted to be a Navy SEAL. And they got to the pool time and he has to, you know, do whatever. The fucker can't swim. But that's not a problem.
Starting point is 01:29:03 He jumps in the pool and he starts running across the bottom as best he can. And he gets to the other side, takes a breath, works his way back. and they're like, you know what? You're in. We can teach you to swim. It is hard to teach that heart. So I don't know if it's true, but it's a story. I've heard multiple stories like that where the guy was like,
Starting point is 01:29:21 I want to be a Navy SEAL. Like, can you swim? Nope. We can figure that out. That's not a big deal. Like, that's just. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:29 That's why I've daydreamed about Navy SEAL training a lot. And the pool stuff, to be honest, I would do really well. I mean, I used to be a swimmer. I had broke records at my college and stuff. I used to be competent at swimming. I was top two swimmers in my school back in primary school. I was pretty good. I was pretty good for sure.
Starting point is 01:29:46 You learned from the drowning. Yes, I did. Yeah, I was survival technique. I just built into me an evolution. How good were you, wouldn't you? I mean, not bad good. No, no, no, no, no. I was never like a threat to make the Olympics or anything.
Starting point is 01:30:01 But I was the- You competed in swimming? I competed at a high school and collegiate level, and I had records at the school level in each of those. Yeah. And I was also a surfer. So I was competent in like the ocean water and never miss a hurricane shit like that. I was a lifeguard.
Starting point is 01:30:16 I say I act like I don't know the number. I saved 132 people. So that was a good swimmer. But the Navy SEAL pool stuff I do well in, but there's all sorts of other things that sugar cookie business carrying the boat. Like they might get me to quit somewhere else. So if they made me run on like a. sprained ankle. I feel like I could do that. But that's sugar cookie business?
Starting point is 01:30:43 Like they, for those don't know, they make you go into the ocean water, which I find to be abrasive after you dry out just from the salt. Then they make you get in the sand and roll around and turn yourself into a sugar cookie. It's all stuck to your body. Well, it gets all down into your shorts between your balls and your fucking taint, between your thighs, everywhere, your dick. And so then they make you do calisthenics for hours and hours on in. And you don't bathe for days. You don't sleep for days. You barely get a moment to eat for days. You get standing mat. And you're sandpapering. You're everything. I trust appropriately. They're in long pants. So the sugar, like it's shafing your thighs every time they rub against each other, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:23 where you're behind your knee, stuff like that. Every joint, every rub point in your clothes is getting sandpapered. And then those, then they send you back into the salt water and that burns. And then you get and then maybe you're out long enough for them to like, scab over a little bit, get back to calisthenics, rub the scabs off, rub the scabs off, now back in the saltwater. And you do there for days. It's a week of that. Great. I was going to say, it's not like this is a one-day event. Like, this is the body that you have to do the rest of training with. It's a problem. Oh my God. Jesse, the body Ventura, I always call him the body, Governor Ventura tells the story about he did Navy SEAL training way back in the day. And he said at
Starting point is 01:32:03 the end of the, I wish I could do his voice as well as Taylor. At the end of the first day, asked us if anyone had any hangers. I was like, I don't know what a hanger is. Blisters. Blisters hanging off. And I was thinking, yeah, dude, my hands weren't toughened. I was covered in these big, nasty blisters. And he had a medical kit. So I thought I need some medical help. He said, let me see. And he starts tearing them off. He just tears all the blisters off bare handed, like rips them off his hand. There you go, Ventura. Got those hangers off for you. And it's like, that's the kind of shit that makes me ring the bell. Like, you take you. Like, you Blisties?
Starting point is 01:32:39 Come on. Not the hangers. And cock sucker? I would I would quit Marine training upon being shouted at, I think. That would be where I would
Starting point is 01:32:50 If somebody was in my face shouting to me, I wouldn't, I don't know how I would take that. I know myself. And like as soon as the real rough shit started, I'd be in my own head convincing myself like this. Oh,
Starting point is 01:33:03 this shit's fucking gay. Like, who even wants to be a part of this? I don't even want to do this. This is stupid. I'm above this. I would elevate myself. I'm above this. Meanwhile, I'm like getting totally dominated by everyone else.
Starting point is 01:33:16 The way those contracts work, they sign up to be a Navy SEAL. But if they fail that training, the Navy owns them for like four years. And they're going to make them like, I don't know ranks, but they're going to make them like fucking seamen first class or some shit. You're just going to be on a boat somewhere doing whatever fuck all job they want you to do for four fucking years. No, they wouldn't. if you were high enough to like be thinking you're going to get into the Navy SEALs and then you fail by a little bit. These guys enter in like with that being their goal.
Starting point is 01:33:45 They're not just some like other guy who's done some stuff. He wants, I've heard them tell that story a bunch of times how risky it is because I've seen a guy on a podcast. He had done that. And he's like, if I had failed, they owned my ass for four years. And they were just going to stick me on a boat somewhere. And there was nothing I could do about it. So it was do or die.
Starting point is 01:34:03 that Navy Steel Trainers shit sounds horrific I don't think I have good enough vision to be a part of any branch of the military other than like Army Goober like what else they give you glasses right like I don't let me
Starting point is 01:34:18 but then you get nicknames they have like a funny nickname for him if you wore glasses like hey Blinky you again you know like that would turn into a new problem I think in the world the nickname is not too bad Blinky it is nice but then it would devolve into worse maybe, you know.
Starting point is 01:34:35 They break my glasses. They'd beat me with soap. As long as your glasses will get you to 20-40 vision, you can get in. That's the deal. Oh, you just look it out? Yeah. Then I could, I could get in. You could? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:48 And the cutoff is now 40 or something, 41 maybe. So plenty of time. Oh, the age. Yeah, they raised the age requirement. 41? I got six years. I thought they were doing amazing on recruiting. Why did they raise the age requirement? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Remember that? As Trump became president, a lot of people were enthusiastic about serving in the armed forces. And then they raised his age. I have no idea. What's it like in the UK? Like what's your age limit?
Starting point is 01:35:16 I think is it like a culture of joining the army there? No, not at all. UK is very different than it was 10 years ago. No one's trying to fight for the UK at this point, I think. The people here don't want to fight for it because they feel like the government hates them. and then the new people here don't want to fight for it because it's not there.
Starting point is 01:35:36 They don't really see it as their country. It's like I don't think there's any passion to join the military because the UK's fighting beyond like the 1600s has been mostly defensive. Like get or don't invade the UK basically has been our sort of like military need. Of course we had the wars that you guys in and get dragged into it. But I don't think there's any motivation to get into it. They tried to groom me into the army in school because they would do the thing in school where if you were a bit naughty, they would say, you know, do this.
Starting point is 01:36:08 You come join the military cadets. It's like a young youth military group. So I would go to like an army center on extracurricularly and do some kind of military stuff. But it was it was so gay. I hated it. We went to a couple camps and I just thought, yeah, well, I could be playing football. I could be playing Black Ops too. I could be doing anything else
Starting point is 01:36:30 but being in this fucking, I could be doing anything else than shining these boots and making my bed. I'm 27. I know I look 50, but I'm 27. I've looked 30 since I was 12.
Starting point is 01:36:41 I'm just saying you missed out on the 9-11 like time. Like after 9-11, everybody was pumped. Yeah, in America. I wanted to go. I was like,
Starting point is 01:36:49 I remember watching shock and awe in fucking high school and being like, we're going to miss it. We're going to miss it. It'll all. be over before we even graduate. Little did you know it was a forever war.
Starting point is 01:37:04 You weren't quite old enough to join after 9-11, but you could have popped in in 2004, 2005, or Afghanistan, rather Iraq, actually. We went Afghanistan first. Like, I would have been the right age for Iraq. One of my buddies went over there. He was a year younger. And Ryan had been over there for like three months before his group was like tricked into going into a building and they detonated
Starting point is 01:37:29 the whole building and brought it down on his whole squad. It was this big CNN story. Like eight or nine, one of my friends from high school, like eight or nine of them died in like one incident. It was like one of the biggest mass casualties of US troops. It was one of the worst days for a long time in the war. It was a bummer. He was such a good guy. He only went
Starting point is 01:37:47 into it because he had such a hard life. Like he had really smart guy, like could have done handsome, intelligent, but he had like the worst home life. Like he had to get out and get gone. had like an abusive stepdad who was a cop so he could like get away with it. There was like growing drugs in his house like on top of that. His cop dad was growing drugs?
Starting point is 01:38:09 Ryan was growing drugs in the house. Yeah. And it was a problem. But yeah, they've been blown up in Iraq right away. What I was thinking when MMA guru was talking about how people weren't enthusiastic about patriotism. And look, I'm sure some of the people who joined our armed forces are there because they're Patriots. But I think a lot of them are there just because it was the best opportunity that
Starting point is 01:38:31 they saw. You know, like, they'll pay for my college if I go. Or I'll come out of it with some sort of job skills. Or maybe they just saw a commercial about a Marine with swords fighting dragons and said they want to do that when they grow up. Bring that commercial back. The UK commercials are sick. I'll be honest. If they really are, when you watch him, like, I'm going to go fucking die in a desert somewhere. Like it really does convince you. Yeah. Four, America. When the U.S. is at like peacetime, the military commercials are like that gay Google art of like the, I joined because I care about accountancy. And they would allow me to do this afterward. And then when it gets to wartime, it's all just like white dude sword. Like storming a beach. They do get you in the UK. I don't really like the less than macho accountant we had in that story. I just want to. I'm going to let that slide.
Starting point is 01:39:28 I should have said an actuary or something. Pick on attorneys or something. Those jag people are pussies. Some pussy jagged guy. You're right. I never should have come with the accountants. Space Force is the one. You're going to tell you.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Like if you're going to join like Space Force, right? Yeah. I don't even know what they do. Space Force. Like they don't fight. There's got to be mostly like scientists. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:54 No, it'll be such a gay fight up there. in space. They'd probably be costing it's all quiet. It'd be satellite warfare. Like, I know the CIA has like a space plane because they've they've released photos the CIA took with their fucking space plane
Starting point is 01:40:12 and it's like they're real far away. What kind of space plane do you all have? I want to know more. They've got some classified space plane. But I bet Space Force has something neat too because the idea would be satellite warfare like going after your enemy's GPS are their military satellites and
Starting point is 01:40:29 true defending hours but it wouldn't be like a soldier like there's not a guy up there with a gun in a NASA suit no they wouldn't be fire no it would be more techier more technological warfare up there but I guess it would end up being the point where let's see how Iran deals with no internet for 24 hours
Starting point is 01:40:47 like that that would be the sort of game we bomb them into getting like mentally healthier yeah this is right they also have tube scrolls crawl in Facebook and Reddit and Twitter anymore. The UK adverts for the military was so good when I was younger.
Starting point is 01:41:07 So I guess that did create a wave. Because by the, at the start of it, you'd be watching it going, I'm going to join the army. And then at the end of this like 30 second advert, you'd just be sitting there with this look like, Israel needs me. Yeah. Their whole thing was like, I used to be a criminal. now I'm a Royal Marines Commando and it was just like I used to be unloading things at the dock
Starting point is 01:41:31 now I'm in a river in Burma No, when they're looking at the civilian Palestine Yeah I used to be an accountant But a kid just threw a rock at my tank I can't stand for that And it's about to get real
Starting point is 01:41:50 Just relax He's loading guys Those are awesome I think they need to do a better job The Royal Marines is a shick name. Like the Royal Marines. Yeah, the Royal Marines. I love that.
Starting point is 01:42:02 And a Commando. Like, I like the whole title there that like, God damn it, I'd love to be a Royal Marines Commando. That's it. I feel like you say that in some pub somewhere. There's just like, bitches get wet. A Royal Marines Commando. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Oh, wow. You made her sound ugly. I did. Yeah. That was. No, no. None of us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:42:27 No, no. I don't know. The docks. Shit. I got to learn more about the UK. Pretty much everything I know about the UK comes from Top Gear, Clarkson's Farm, and Jeremy Clarkson. And then jokes on South Park. South Park, Oliver Twist thing was real bad press for us.
Starting point is 01:42:50 I don't know if you remember that. When he met Pip from Oliver Twist. metal newspaper or do you need a metal newspaper for all of that you're so the teeth I mean come on guys these ain't that mad
Starting point is 01:43:01 no you're not bad yeah you're an outlier what do you want what do you want I'm actually number one in the UK I'm an 11 out of 10 it's actually an insane
Starting point is 01:43:11 status but are you you pure English you got some Irish ancestry with that that ginge yeah I got some jinge in me I'm a bit of a day walker
Starting point is 01:43:23 No, I'm like, I did an ancestry test. My mom is Welsh, my dad's English, but there's like some Norwegian and Irish and me, a little percentages of Norwegian and Irish, but I'm Welsh and English. Yeah, they say it's pure. I'm also pure blood. I want to get these two to do the full genetic thing
Starting point is 01:43:43 so that we can have a full breakdown. No, it's like almost all Irish and English with a little bit of like Norwegian shit and some Slovenian somehow. Wow. Wow. What is that now? Isn't 23 and me out of business?
Starting point is 01:43:59 Are there still ones going? Ancestry? I think is the one. Oh, Ancestry.com. Okay. Taylor, I had a question for you. You said something earlier that piqued my interest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:08 You said you should have sat in the front seat because you were the older brother. This is a parenting thing and I'm curious. Like in Jackie's family, the oldest sister got the best parking spot in front of the house. And then the middle sister got the second best and Jackie. he got what was left over. In my family, they worked very hard to make everything even or needs based. Like my brother had a job. So he got like preferred parking. And so like you kind of get that. Do you when you have kids, will you give the older one the front seat every time or will you rotate it? Like what's fair? I think I'll do it the way my parents did because the reason I said I should have
Starting point is 01:44:48 had the front seat is because I should have been faster because they always had like whoever, whoever races there first you call it. And so I'll just do the same thing. And so I usually got the front seat because I was quicker than my younger brother at the time and was able to hop in. And so I think I'll just
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yeah, yeah, because I was a big kid. Yeah, you want the big kid in the front seat. Like you have to be like, I don't know, 80 pounds or something to set even like way for the airbag. Yeah. I think my parents got that right. You let them battle it out if they're sons. You know, you can't have,
Starting point is 01:45:22 like an older. If you have a boy and a girl, that girl is going to get stuck in the trunk. She's going to be in the trunk the whole time. There's no way she's going to beat them in a race. And so I always sat in the back seat on the way to school. I wanted the whole back seat to myself. I had my like CD player in my headset on listening to Eminem getting angry on the way to school. So I didn't, you know, I was not talking anymore.
Starting point is 01:45:43 You made your mom drive you to school like a chauffeur? Yeah. That's exactly what it was like. That's insane. You didn't sit up front with her? No. That's crazy. That's so rude. I think my sister was in the front seat. I think she was. Okay. Well, there was someone else there. Maybe. Yeah, yeah. We would both be going. But I bet my mom would have preferred I was in the back. I don't, I don't think my company was such that anyone would enjoy it. I never thought that. I was like, my company is a pleasure for everyone around. You want to hear me do Donald Duck mom again? You want to hear you?
Starting point is 01:46:22 hear me do it for the whole ride that's what you're going to get you know the backseat's pretty comfy you might like to join the military what would you do well like let's say right now that we've killed we've all got to go let's say there's a big draft and like regardless of age and any other uh any other thing we've all got to go it's time to sign up before the draft comes we know the draft is coming it's it's where are we fighting yeah where are we going wherever Donald Trump wants us to go fight, probably the Middle East. You got to pick a place. We're going to Iraq.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Boots on the ground in Iran. Am I old Woody or peak Woody? This is you right now. Old Woody is funnier. Okay. I would want to be a MetaVac pilot, a helicopter that rescues people. That's what I want to be. Oh, that's not what I thought you would have done.
Starting point is 01:47:15 I thought you'd want to use your IT skills to join Space Force and sit behind a computer monitor somewhere stateside. and be like, check, and like a thousand people die. Like, you know, you'd be that guy. Or you'd be like, maybe you'd be like running the, maybe there's a pilot out there that's searching for someone, and you're the guy back over here looking at satellite images, relaying that to your superior, who's sending that to the CIA,
Starting point is 01:47:38 who's using it to find him, you know? I can see why I might be a fit for that. MMA guru. I was a software engineer for like two decades. But that doesn't tickle my dreams in quite the same way. be that helicopter pilot like you know some guys hurt you saw starship troopers you know
Starting point is 01:47:58 when they needed to be evacuated and he's like oh my god it's fucking crazy down here who I'll send us a crazy pilot and then they get fucking Woody on the that that's who I want to be that's the guy that I aspire to be sick okay I'm trying to think of something that's not shameful but also not putting me in any
Starting point is 01:48:15 immediate danger what else could like maybe I could delay it by being like I'll go to law school to be a jag. Like, I'll go through that for a while. I don't know. Because I don't have any, like, I couldn't be a mechanic.
Starting point is 01:48:30 I don't know mechanic shit. They teach you all those things. They, you know, whatever you want to do, they'll teach you to do. You need no, like, I, no, so you can just pick the job. No one goes into it knowing how to fix Apache helicopters.
Starting point is 01:48:43 They teach you that there. Yeah. Yeah. Probably then mechanic or something where you're, Imagine recruiting 18-year-olds from high schooling, turning them down because they don't have any avionics experience. That's true. I didn't think about it.
Starting point is 01:49:01 But I was thinking about myself at 35 being like, what army skills do you have? They would have some experience under fire being from the U.S. Yeah. I'm from St. Louis. This is a pretty nice city, actually. It's a bombed out Bangladesh. I think I'd join the Navy.
Starting point is 01:49:23 I think I'd like either, I think the submarine thing would be. Oh my God, that's terrible. Yeah, but see, like the downside of that don't bother me at all. I, it looks, I've seen some videos of like what submarine life is like. It doesn't look that bad. They're like, yeah, we have ice cream on Thursdays. It's pizza Friday. One day a week you get ice cream?
Starting point is 01:49:45 They're having an ice cream. They're tapping out. I'm not. Actually, I would be the, that's what I would do. I'd work at the ice cream food truck at the base. Don't you think you'd be more of that? Don't you think you'd be more of like an important target if you were in a submarine? Because that's, that's like a really heavily utilized weapon.
Starting point is 01:50:08 I think it's where we're furthest ahead of the enemy in a lot of ways. Okay, okay. So you're thinking that way. Like Iran's not going to be able to contend with our submarine force. They're probably going to be standing. off shooting missiles depending on what kind of submarine it is it is anyway unless it's like a hunter killer submarine that's like up above the antarctic ice stalking some some some russian submarine just keeping tabs on it they never do anything like they're just chilling in there
Starting point is 01:50:34 i think i could be wrong about this because i definitely don't know what i'm talking about but i think a lot of navy jobs are just maintaining heavy equipment picture big gears that need daily oiling in the salty environment decks that need swabbing things that constantly get repainted. I think there's so many Navy jobs that I just wouldn't find any joy in. Aircraft carrier has, I think, 5,500 sailors on it. Like, that's a city, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:02 There's got so many jobs on there. I bet 4,000 of those jobs maintain equipment. At least. Yeah. Right? Like, the shit goes wrong, if shit goes wrong kind of crew, you know? You know what the best job there? Guarding the reactor.
Starting point is 01:51:16 I want to be the guy who just stands there all day with an issue. MP5. Like, no, I had two one six fingers. Just guarding the nuclear reactor all day. It's never been an issue. I saw somebody talk about like the safety of nuclear power today. Like, no one ever mentions the U.S. has like 80 nuclear vessels that have never had an incident ever. And they've been running them since the 50s. Like, it's never had an issue. Did you see that Russian ship was sank? I think it was going to North Korea and it had a nuclear reactor on it? Yeah, it had nuclear reactors for submarines on it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Mysteriously sank. You know, the darndest things happen. You know, them fish are getting sharp. Maybe it was a swordfish. People don't think of it. In answer to the, what would you be in the army question? I would go immediate. Like, I can translate.
Starting point is 01:52:05 I would get duolingo up first thing. The second I heard the country that we were going to, I'm getting fluent in Iranian real quick. Like, I think that could be with me. So you don't speak other languages, but you'd instantly volunteer as a translator with an iPhone? I would learn them, you know? I think they would find that more endearing.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Because if you were already fluent in Iranian, they would think this guy's fucking ass over, you know? If I genuinely went there, like, trembling with a phone in my hand, like trying to get them to translate, I think they would think, ah, poor kid, you know, let's not. It'd be like Navy SEALs. Like, we can teach you Farsi, but it's hard to find a guy who thinks he knows Farsi already.
Starting point is 01:52:46 That's a rare. skill. Confidence can't be trained, son. I think there's almost a point in being endearingly bad at something in order
Starting point is 01:52:56 not to be killed. But I don't know how like forgiving and nice an Iranian military soldier would be in that situation if you were to invade. What country would you want to kill
Starting point is 01:53:06 and go to war with? We haven't killed whites in so long. We haven't killed whites in my country. We're running out. You guys. You want to give Germany another run? Oh, that's right. Yeah, somehow I forgot
Starting point is 01:53:20 World War II. Yeah, yeah. Let's give the Jerry's another what for. I think the Germans seem a little pompous. And I got to say, whenever I see them like go way to the right with their Israel support, they're like knocking the teeth out of some German girl
Starting point is 01:53:37 because she's like said Netanyahu's a killer. They're like beating people in the street who are anti-Israel. It's like, they might need correction again. their right wing parties are heavily Israeli. It's the same thing in the UK as well. The Tommy Robinson guy is Israeli. And he's like the leader of the far right movement. Any like a opposition movement.
Starting point is 01:53:59 So what's happening is very masqueraded with like an Israeli undertone of, you know, garnish. Has the Israeli government managed to convince the UK to give them money to? Are you guys also like? I'm sure. We did. The UK gives money to fucking. Tibet or whatever.
Starting point is 01:54:17 America's giving more money to Israel than any other country on earth. And not just for one year. This is like cumulative. But when you think about Israel, like they're not a big country. Like why are their needs that much bigger than China, Russia, Nigeria, India? Like you, I don't know. It's just, it's disproportionate. This is a tiny little country that gets the most money.
Starting point is 01:54:40 Or America. I could go to America, you know, where we paid for it. I was thinking of foreign aid, but yeah. You're saying the foreign aid, Israel number one recipient since 1975, I believe, probably since before that. The number two recipient, Egypt. Why? Because we bribed Egypt with money to normalize relations with Israel.
Starting point is 01:55:03 So basically the top two are just in Israel and Israel by another name. I think there's like that $2 trillion war we fought for them. Yeah. Yeah. Statistics in the UK. Yeah. Go on. Oh, he's quibbling over like the 25 or 30 billion that we've straight up signed over to Israel over the years when we fought a $2 trillion war and lost like 10,000 Americans for them. Way more than 20 or 30 billion.
Starting point is 01:55:30 The U.S. is like a leading GDP in the world. So them giving foreign aid is interesting. But the UK, I think there's a statistic that came out recently where on GDP we are poorer than Tennessee. Is that the poorest? Mississippi, I think is. And we are poorer than the, like if we were a state in America, we would be the 51st Oh no. Porrest state.
Starting point is 01:55:55 And we give foreign aid to like a large percentage of countries that are more well off than us at this point. It's a really weird thing. I think we give like a large amount to China, which is really, really strange. You give to China? I'm fairly certain there's there's percentages of foreign aid that go to like China and something about Hong Kong. I know the British rule. Reparations for the Boxer Rebellion. You guys did a lot of wrong over the centuries. The opium wars, maybe.
Starting point is 01:56:23 We got them hooked on heroin, didn't we? Yeah, I saw that. And then, like, I watched YouTube videos about, like, houses in the UK. And Americans, Ameribros, were spoiled as hell. Yeah. Oh, UK houses are in this country. Like, the houses there, they'll be like, it's a beautiful full bed. room two bath
Starting point is 01:56:46 680 square feet and it's like oh my god you can't even fit a king size bed in some of these rooms. You can spin around in this one with your arms out wide without it in nothing like it's
Starting point is 01:56:58 it's really bad in the UK. Do you guys have air conditioning? Like is it everywhere? I have air conditioning but that's not a thing but I'm rich. I'm well off now you know I'm doing very great so air conditioning is not something I think of as a rich
Starting point is 01:57:12 people thing. That actually probably tells you the story. It's way, way hotter in most of the U.S. than Europe. Yeah. That's true, yeah. But the UK is pretty cold. The south of the UK gets some heat. In the reefkeeping hobby, all the British guys have coolers for their tanks
Starting point is 01:57:29 because in the summer it'll get so hot and cooks your fish. What fuck? Yeah. So they're just sweating in their living rooms while the tanks have air conditioners cooling the water off. Get an A-C before you buy a giant reef system. Get a window unit. It's not that hard. Yeah, order of operations here, folks.
Starting point is 01:57:49 A big part of the culture in the UK is sitting topless in your front room with all the windows open while a miniature fan blows on you every now and then on rotation. Do that what they say? Yeah, he's not a thing. I don't know why it's just not a thing. We can't gloss over this and move on. Do the ladies sit topless too? Maybe bras on, I would imagine. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:10 It depends. No, I'm out. Tap now. I thought the UK was one of the better AC countries in Europe. I thought it was like mainland Europe that was like
Starting point is 01:58:21 like you talked to some guy in Poland or Slovenia or Slovakia about AC and they're like Oh yeah, they've never heard of it. Yeah. Yeah, they've never heard of it. It might be better than some other
Starting point is 01:58:32 European countries. But it's not. My American standards would be worse than anything we have. Here, like if your house doesn't have AC it can get classified as blight and torn down. Yeah. Like I had a lot of friends in primary and secondary school.
Starting point is 01:58:45 I knew no one with an air conditioning unit in their home. No one. No one and you had one. Oh, not even a unit? We have central air here where it's just pumped through. Yeah, they're just vents in our ceilings that blow cold air out because we live in the first world. It's so crazy to me that anybody doesn't have it. Whenever I've vacationed in like Seattle before and the house there didn't have it.
Starting point is 01:59:11 And it wasn't listed on the air. B&B, no AC. Me and Chis go to that place in the middle of the summer, like July or something. And we had to Amazon buy fans. Like we both got like fans like blowing on us constantly. We're sweating. It was miserable. That's a lot of cheap window unit.
Starting point is 01:59:29 I wonder how low they go. I bet for like 180. The thing was we were only, we had the first house only had like three or four days of availability. And then after that we were going to another house that we had. made sure had AC after the first day at house number one. So it was like, man, do we, do we Amazon a two or three hundred dollar window unit that will have to stay here?
Starting point is 01:59:51 I guess we could return it, but then we're stoned. Like the whole point of this trip is smoking weed in Seattle. So it's like, do I want a bunch of like UPS busy work? And we just sweated it out for two or three days. It was terrible. Sweat out. Yuck. Dude, if my AC goes out in the middle of summer in Missouri,
Starting point is 02:00:07 it's so thick and hot and muggy within 40 minutes that I, I'm like on the phone. Like someone someone's got to get here now. It's an emergency call. I'm sweaty. I sting. My hair's getting greasy faster than it usually does. When my,
Starting point is 02:00:23 my AC went out like five years ago and it was like days and days with it not getting fixed. And so I wouldn't I would go into a hotel and spend my days there. And I made the rental place pay for my hotel and pay for the window unit that I had purchased to like finally just exist in my house. They're pretty cool about it. I had a meltdown on the phone. I didn't curse, like following you guys' example. But I was like, this is unacceptable.
Starting point is 02:00:47 I was like, I've got an, I started making up all kinds of lives. I've got a baby here. I've got an elderly grandmother with dementia. Have you ever had to give an old woman five sponge baths a day? Have you? Have you? Like, I had a full meltdown. I'm like, we're staying at the holiday end right now.
Starting point is 02:01:05 I've got a baby and a wife. I'm like listing all these people. It's just me. Just you and your dogs. I had a fucking meltdown. But, but like living without AC was like hell.
Starting point is 02:01:17 I always say, was that house one's own? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sleeping is the worst. Sleeping without AC is a near impossible task.
Starting point is 02:01:29 That's the worst thing for me. I need it to be cold to sleep. That's always been my thing. So I've always got the AC going now or a fan on or something. I'm thinking about moving to Spain. And one of the main things that's holding me back from that is that my,
Starting point is 02:01:44 memory of going to Spain when I was younger is that it's so hot you can't even fucking think in the day sometimes you like have this mental fog based on how humid and hot the south of Spain is there their work at the go to that yeah it does that's actually true they close in the middle of the day I've enough to save myself from being lost I would say but not okay fluent more conversational no way you get much better what about America he can learn and well he learns first I could Yeah, true, true.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Two very notoriously similar languages. I can't tell the difference. It's all Greek to me. Yeah, I was, I mean, I thought about moving to the U.S. Bryce Mitchell said he'd save me a plot of land near him if I ever wanted to move there. But I don't know, Spain is like a two and a half hour flight away from where I am and where my family is. It's really easy. It's not that long of flight.
Starting point is 02:02:41 I'm sure it's about two and a half hours, maybe three hours. How different is the time zone? Maybe an hour different. Portugal is the same as the UK, but Spain is an hour ahead. I find that to be the bigger deal. Like, you know, if you're three hours different, then, you know, you're not really thinking about calling home until they're ready to go to bed. Yeah, big a deal.
Starting point is 02:03:02 I just need another look, I think. I want to learn another language accidentally via being somewhere, you know. If you decide to live near Bryce Mitchell, you could get like a house with five acres for like 150, thousand dollars. No, you could not get a house. That sounds too low, but it would be affordable in Arkansas. You got a couple hundred thousand.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Let me link you to the house in Arkansas with five acres for $150,000. Is there an active murderer? Like, there's no way. Damn. Oh, land. com, does it have a house? Oh, my God. What am I looking at?
Starting point is 02:03:37 You're looking at a five acre property with a 700 square foot house for $145,000. scream. House is pretty generous. This is a refurbished like utility shed. It's like, show me that in here.
Starting point is 02:03:54 They asked that right there to fix her upper. I know that. Of course. This actually looks like Bryce Mitchell's house. Wait, go back. Wait.
Starting point is 02:04:05 What kind of people lived here? They have a Grinch. No, it's not. A Grinch themed bath mat and a Grinch themed curtain. Yeah, yeah. That came as set, clearly. They're going to
Starting point is 02:04:19 take that with him. I guarantee and the Grinch themed toilet cover. I saw, oh, I saw the thing that wrapped around the toilet that your feet go on, like little toilet-shaped carpet. Why have I seen this house? I guarantee a girl who never doesn't
Starting point is 02:04:34 wear a pajama pants lips there, like that house. He's been wearing those SpongeBob pants for two weeks straight. It's horrible. This is horrible. This is awful. Horrible and awful. Look at this. Not only do you have a con ex-box like pool shed in the back to tie up women and rape them endlessly.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Taylor looking down his nose. How many conics boxes do you have now? Taylor, zero, I bet. Zero conex boxes. Who are you to talk shit about this place? Five acres of land. Now here's what you would do there. It's not even that much.
Starting point is 02:05:05 Five acres is a large amount of land. When you're 145,000 and you have a place to live, you have a horse barn, which probably comes You have a demo job because that house is terrible. You could build your new house there. Maybe you could throw up a cabin. You could repaint the ConExbox, Taylor.
Starting point is 02:05:21 You lack imagination. You're right. Spray painted. I don't know why you're hating on that. That's five acres and a UK-sized house for $145,000 U.S. Yeah, coming from the UK, it's a UK-sized house, I guess. Yeah, you could, I would get one of those log cabin kits that are like $100,000, $125,000. I'd build it myself over there in my spare time.
Starting point is 02:05:43 like after a year or two, it'd have it built and you'd be done. In your spare time when you're not shivering in the rain. MMA guru is doing well in social media. I think he's more of a Monaco kind of guy. This is like a barometer reading of like what the deal is though. Like for $400,000, it's a mansion now. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:06:05 There's a huge jump up. If you don't want five acres is the land's probably worth $10,000 an acre or something like that. Yeah, the Monaco tax haven is very appealing, very appealing as well. And then maybe you can go check out the Formula One with some champagne. It's the worst race of the year. Or you can move to Tennessee. You know about Dollywood? I don't know about Dollywood.
Starting point is 02:06:29 See, Dolly Parton has her own theme park. Oh wow, how American. It's a treat, okay? It's a treat. First of all, there are bald eagles in there everywhere just flying around. They have a giant netted canopy over the whole park. you're walking around eating your snow cone and there's a fucking bald eagle flying over it.
Starting point is 02:06:48 It's, it's America personified. It's wonderful. Roller coasters, they have like a live, like cowboy street performances with like blank fire guns and stuff where they have like two,
Starting point is 02:07:00 a bunch of cowboys get mad at each other and have a shootout in the street. They had like live performances and lots of music. It's a great time. They captured a bunch of bald eagles and put them in a canopy. I did. I thought that wasn't a, allowed. They're probably rescue eagles
Starting point is 02:07:15 or something. I don't know. I guess so. Because I know every time every time once every few years you see a story where it's like some guy in Washington kills a bald eagle and they railroad them. Taking a feather is illegal. I'm pretty sure that
Starting point is 02:07:30 like collecting feathers off the ground and keeping them is illegal. Mr. Beast had to change his whole filming location because it may have interrupted the breeding of eagles in that area or some shit like that. I know you guys have a lot of laws about preserving legal sometimes.
Starting point is 02:07:46 I was actually shocked by how American America was. When I went to Miami, I was like, okay, this is kind of just like any other. It's American, but it's kind of very diverse-ish, diverse, you know? But when I went to Nashville,
Starting point is 02:08:01 that's when I realized like, holy shit, I'm in America. These guys are laughing as cowboys walking. They actually believe they are cowboys. Cowboys. They have a major city. Nashville's an outlier. Nashville's an outlier.
Starting point is 02:08:13 where it's like the country music like center of the world. So there are a lot of like guys who are all hat and no cattle. You know what I mean? A lot of those guys. It doesn't make sense for people east of the Mississippi to wearing a cowboy hat anyway. And I always say that to my redneck friends. It's like, you're not a fucking cowboy.
Starting point is 02:08:31 You are, if there's country and Western, you're a country. Don't blend into Western. You don't ride horses. What's that belt buckle? You didn't win that. What are you doing? You got to be east of the Mississippi to wear a cowboys. boy like I agree me in west I'm sorry west of the mississippi sorry I want a cowboy
Starting point is 02:08:49 hat though and I I have a tractor so I feel like look I saw footloose you wear cowboy hats on tractors yeah it comes with it getting it from footloose doesn't help your your point noted cowboy Kevin bacon wears one what yes yes that's what I'm getting it I and also it'd be good for son and like what it was a straw cowboy cowboy hat. I feel like that's a little more flexible in its location. Yeah, that's the week. Oh, really? Ate. A cowboy hat addition, the straw one.
Starting point is 02:09:22 You've got to get one that hurts to wear, I think, is probably a, that's a real cowboy hat, you know? It's got to be leather. It's got to be on. Yeah, sharp leather like it rubs. You get a rash from it. You know, that's a cowboy hat. We went to Texas. You're not selling it. We went on a Texas hunting trip and, uh, me and my cousin were looking at cowboy hats. I was like, you know, because went in Rome. And my dad's like, no good. He grabs the biggest sombrero they have. And he wears it the whole trip.
Starting point is 02:09:54 He got into so many conversations over the hat. People love the hat. And he was like, oh, you like my hat. Well, let me tell you this. And they start telling them stories. And he would have a fucking crowd at the bar talking to the sombrero, man. I like to, I like to picture that it was one that had like those little tequila shooters hanging. No, it was like a mooie Authentico sombrero. He like, he got a good one. It was absurd.
Starting point is 02:10:22 It was so big. And he was like, this is the best son hat I've ever had. He would wear it back home riding the fucking tractor. He'd be out like the tractor with his sombrero. I want to be Lamar when I grow up. Ironically, my grandpa, also, southern
Starting point is 02:10:37 Missouri farmer, he also wore a giant like straw hat for a while because it was so good when he was mowing or doing any work around the property. Like he really did and he couldn't care less. Like he's an elderly
Starting point is 02:10:54 man. He's like no one's looking at me who gives a fuck. But my grandma would be like he's out there and I see him right now. He's on the tractor and he's wearing his big old his big old hat and I tell him he looks ridiculous and he says, shut up. As he should.
Starting point is 02:11:12 as he should. Taylor's grandfather was a cattle farmer. Oh, wow. Yep, yep. Cattle farmer, trucker. When in the 60s, he was a linesman for a while, like for the electrical company, like climbing up there and doing shit. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:11:31 No, not the NFL. Is that what it is? Linesman or a line? A singular line man. Yeah. But he was climbing up there and doing stuff. He's got great stories. I wish I could have seen anybody
Starting point is 02:11:44 get jolted anybody ever take a take a charge yeah he said he saw people get hurt and he was like doubly careful as a result of it but he never got shocked or hurt got hurt a bunch on the farm because like apparently not apparently
Starting point is 02:11:59 but farming apparently is the most injury prone profession of all time just working with especially in modernity you're working with giant machinery that can crush you fuck you up my great grandpa was missing like parts of two and a half fingers because of uh farming shit and i remember being spooked by it when i was a little kid like i'd go see him and i and he'd be like
Starting point is 02:12:25 come over here taylor and i'd be like he's he's gonna grasp me with those weird paws he doesn't have nails on any of them yeah just just half off oh my grandpa is your grandfather like that my great grandpa was missing the nail part of his thumb and then Pinky finger, ring finger about halfway. And so he had like his index finger and his ring finger were good and then the rest were all nubs.
Starting point is 02:12:56 And I just remember how fucking fat the nubs were. You knew your great grandpa, like you met him and saw him. Yeah. Me too. My grandma. Young child haveers in your family tree then, I guess. I didn't even fucking speak to my grandparent. dad. I never met him. Oh, not even your regular grandpa? No, neither of them. I mean, they were
Starting point is 02:13:16 alive. Like, there's pictures of me as a baby just fucking precariously held by them. But I never had like a conversation with either of my grandparents, like my granddad's. I know what they did and I've heard stories, but I'm hearing you guys talk about, you know, my great-grandparent. I remember he had this and that, dude. I don't, I don't remember any of that shit. I knew my great-grandmother and I knew both my grandmothers. One of my grandmothers had remarried. And so that actually, guy I knew as my grandpa, my papa. And he had like lost two of his fingers in the
Starting point is 02:13:47 lumber yard, like a giant stack of lumber had just crushed the tips of his fingers off. And I always thought it was cool. Like it was never scared to me as a kid. I was like, that's fucking meat. His fingers are gone. You thought it was neat? It's spooked. Yeah. Dude, so my
Starting point is 02:14:02 father-in-law, he like lost part of his finger. It wasn't in combat but it was in the Korean War. Something happened. And they like reattached it hastily or something and then his sergeant would have him move rocks for no hecking reason it was like part of his rehab and he's telling the story to me like it really worked out successfully like man it hurt but he made me do it i had to pick up the rocks put him somewhere else take them put them back where they were before just moving rocks until my finger was good again and it's like you know i can
Starting point is 02:14:33 see it it's crooked it's not you don't have a fingernail and the end of it is like has an extra knuckle that goes off to the side. And you're retelling the story, like, you have a good figure. Like, this was a successful rehab. But it's not. People don't recommend that anymore for rehab. It's lifting large stones over and over. So were you, like, how old were your, or did your grandparents die prematurely,
Starting point is 02:14:59 maybe? Like, is that why? I'm having like an existential thing now, because I've just realized that the male life expectancy in my family's like 50. Oh, that's good. That's good. Retirement planning gets easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:13 My dad's like really breaking records right now. I'm thinking about it right now. He's getting up there. He's beyond 50 and he's really setting the fucking tone of the family history here. Because I'm thinking about it. They weren't that old. What are the causes of death? Like probably heart attack, like illness, maybe like a, every male in my family has been incredibly stressed.
Starting point is 02:15:35 I think it's like a big thing. They all look like pink with stress. like a lot of the beauty photos. It's a very British look. Yeah, it's a very British look it is. So I guess what I'm going to have to try and set records here because I was just thinking about it when you said that. Yeah, they haven't.
Starting point is 02:15:49 My family don't really age. They don't get old. The women do. The women, I have like an aunt of you hit 100 and something she got. And when you hit 100 in the UK, she's dead. I don't think you'll be getting a letter from the queen now, but you used to get a letter from the queen if you made it past 100 years old. She would send you a birthday card.
Starting point is 02:16:07 But King doesn't do it? the king might pick it up but I don't know maybe I'd like him too it used to be a queen's thing that's a good little busy yeah what the fuck is he got going on the old country yeah I don't have any grandfathers either one was a bad person and left early
Starting point is 02:16:22 and the other died of colon cancer both of them were bad people and they both died of alcohol related stuff early early like one of those the liver at 35 and the other yeah and the other also I think it may, I know we like, it was the early days of the internet, like 94 or something like that. And we found him on the internet.
Starting point is 02:16:45 And he had died in Dallas. And that's how we found out he was dead. Like we had no inkling that he was dead or alive. So he wasn't even part of the family. Oh, no. They were both abusive alcoholics. And my mom's dad, he had like divorced and abandoned the family after deafening my grandmother abusively, like slapped her in the head and ruptured her earrum. So she was always deaf in her right here.
Starting point is 02:17:07 And then he fled the state. And then her next husband was like worse. Wait, your step, grandpa wasn't even cool? No, no, no. That was the third husband. See, she had two white guys who were abusive pieces of shit. And then she went and got herself a Honduran that she could bully. I was going to say, at what point is she the problem here?
Starting point is 02:17:34 You know, the common denominator. And then end up beating her off. I mean, it just... We've already established. She can't listen. Yeah, it might be time to look in the mirror here. My mom always told me the story about how, like, she had found out that her second husband was cheating on her.
Starting point is 02:17:48 He was at the baseball field with another woman on, like, a date watching baseball. And my grandmother went there and beat the shit out of the other woman in front of everybody at the baseball field. So, yeah, like, the only guy I ever knew was my papa. And he was the best. He was just this, he was a Honduran guy so hardworking and so like loving. I love the Atlanta Braves. Like we'd sit there on the couch for hours watching movies and watching the Braves and having a good time.
Starting point is 02:18:17 Great guy. Yeah, I had that too. Two living grandparents. Sorry, go ahead. My mother's mom remarried. And I don't, I guess I was young and stupid because I didn't call him my grandma, grandpa or papa. I called him uncle. Uncle Shirley.
Starting point is 02:18:35 And I love that fucking guy. He was always nice. He always had time for me. He always like sit on the floor and give me attention and stuff like play cards. And he had a swimming pool, which I just love. So I'd just go there and be a fish. And yeah, Uncle Shirley was dope. He was an engineer.
Starting point is 02:18:53 He worked for RCA. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. My guy was great. He'd teach me a little Spanish. And he would do this thing where we'd be sitting on the couch and my grandma will be cooking. and he'd like pretend like his toe was possessed or something like that his feet and he'd start like creeping him for me and he'd like pinch me with his toes like his big toe and his second big toe and I can still remember be like nanny Papa's doing something
Starting point is 02:19:18 he's gonna get you guy or gonna get you guy I'm gonna go with the toes it's great love that guy to death he'd work out we'd work out together he put on his like sweats and his gloves go in the backyard pump iron he's like five foot fucking Tops, like little guy. Oh, so he could be a jacked them. He worked hard. He worked in a lumberyard his whole life. And, like, he was, like, fit for sure, like, fit for, because he was, like, 65 even then. Yeah. Those guys lived forever.
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Starting point is 02:20:50 My great-grandma knit a quilt for me when my mom was saying she was expecting me. And she died like 11 days before I was born. I still have the quilt. Is it heavy as fuck? It's a thick quilt. Yeah. It's like an Afghan. Like one of those internet things.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Yeah, they were really heavy. Yeah. My grandpa used to fuck with me when I was a little kid. Like I would be playing with Plato and he made a, I was like four or five, probably four. And he made a duck out of Plato sitting there with me at the kitchen table at their house. And I was so infatuated with the duck because I was trying to build things and I was four. So I did a poor job of making things look correct. with the Play-Doh.
Starting point is 02:21:40 And then, like, when I was, like, looking at it real close, he was like, Tyler, take a look at this. You like that duck? Now I was looking at it. And then he brought, like, his giant farmer hand down. And he went, quack. And he smashed the duck right in front of my face. And I was distraught.
Starting point is 02:22:00 Like, I, like, I cried. I was crying tears of, of anguish because of what he did to that. or maybe just from the startling. But yeah, he, and then he laughed and laughed and laughed and he had his fun. So, definitely,
Starting point is 02:22:16 to grab his James. That reminded me, it's kind of different, but my grandparents got me a kitten. And they were on the way over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:29 Meow. Oh, they got my kitten. And they were getting, like, packed up to come over to our house to present me with that kitten. And Papa was, walking outside out the front door with like some some like bags and stuff and he didn't see the
Starting point is 02:22:43 kitten and he crushed the kitten and killed it and then they came and told me they were like we were going to bring you a kitten but papa crushed it and i was like why would you tell why even why even include that in the story was there ever around two or were they just like that was your one shot that was it that was the one kitten like they had a terrible parent they only had the one kitten right right so much fine people giving away kittens That was my one shot of kittens. Yeah. A great life.
Starting point is 02:23:11 Kittens in the country are notoriously difficult to find. They don't just agree to go everywhere. The older people in my family threatened to kill pets, but they never did. My uncle used to hate small dogs, really small dogs. He didn't mind dogs, but he hated like chihuahuas. He used to call them little rats and stuff like that. Like, he really didn't like them. So I remember being a kid and my cousins would get, who were a bit older than me.
Starting point is 02:23:38 They were like borderline adults would get like a little puppy, chihuahua type thing, little terrier. And whenever they were, we were at a barbecue, he would chase it around with tongs around like he was going to, like he was going to fry it up. I remember it used to like traumatize me like, no, don't cook this dog in front of us, please. Obviously he was joking. But yeah. Guru, are you a big dog guy or a small dog guy? Um, medium to big. I don't like small, small dogs.
Starting point is 02:24:06 I like a dog that like It's almost big enough to feel like a bit of a human with you You know what I mean I don't want to have to watch where I'm walking or stepping or I'm outnumbered on this show Taylor like small dogs Kind of like small dogs but he is dog flexible Okay
Starting point is 02:24:23 Dog flexible and you are in What department are you in big dogs Yeah I have great danes Oh that's retarded I don't want a great dane But that's like just too much effort I think to have this dog There's like really true beds. Why do they lay sideways? What are we doing? I know corner to corner. There are downsides.
Starting point is 02:24:45 I like emergency bought new scented candles because they could be gassy sometimes. Like I don't want to not have scented candles for my fucking pretzel tonight. If my dog could out fart me, emasculating. Like my dogs could thoroughly out fart all four. Oh yeah. It's just terrible. We're shopping for a new bed now because the dog takes up too much space.
Starting point is 02:25:11 What size? I thought for a second, I thought you're asking about the dog, but you mean the bed. I don't know. There's a few different ones. Obviously, it's going to be one of the Colorado or California King.
Starting point is 02:25:22 I think the California King is just longer and maybe not even as wide or something like that. Yeah, yeah. It's longer, a little narrower, but it is bigger. just you know like the square footages the way that helps
Starting point is 02:25:36 okay what's the Alaska King isn't that one of them is much wider Alaska is a Wyoming as well I think oh what do we have here oh that's not how people look on a bed Jesus they've done a bad job with the human examples
Starting point is 02:25:54 so like yeah the Wyoming King is probably the answer to my problems that gets me eight more inches which is a ton I think in the end game and it's just as long as the king because like my when I lie down if I don't go all the put my head all the way to the headboard my feet will hang off a king so I can't go any shorter and I definitely want to be I need wider because my dog my dog's a Bernie doodle he's like 80 pounds he's no giant or anything but he lays sideways he takes up as much space and he wants to be on you
Starting point is 02:26:27 so he like does his three little circles and then collapses like a house of cards onto somebody and it's usually my girlfriend and I can hear it like I'll come to bed late and he'll come with me and she's dead asleep and I see Toby doing his little circles and when he like falls on her I hear her go oh my god dude splurge for the Alaska King
Starting point is 02:26:47 I don't know the room for it I don't know how big is bad this but I was fit in there but like I think actually like I've got I've got like nightstands on both sides obviously of the bed like I think if I add like another two or three feet, like I'm not going to fit in the room.
Starting point is 02:27:06 I think the Wyoming King is the way to go. And I bet they're very expensive because I don't want some like spring mattress. I'm definitely going to get a Casper equivalent mattress. So it's probably $1,500,000. And you're going to need a whole new bed frame headboard. That's the problem. Those are really cheap. The comforters can get expensive, especially when you go into the specialty kings.
Starting point is 02:27:27 Yeah, comforters and sheets and all that's going to be expensive because I like, you know, I like bougie. sheets. I like high thread count sheets that feel silky. Oh. I'm a basic bitch when it comes to my bed. Just a simple thing. Two pillows, duvet, cover may or may not be on, depending on whether or not. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:27:47 I sleep well. As long as it's cold, I sleep very well. Are you in any way hot? I'm out. Yeah, they call it a California king, I think, in the UK. Oh, no. Yeah, that's a good size. I want a bigger bed.
Starting point is 02:28:01 I could use a bigger bed. I'd have to measure the room to see what fits. We might have to, like, if we gave up a nice stand on one side, we'd totally fit any of them. But the bed itself, like the foot and the headboard and stuff, they were really premium. It's like, oh, I don't have to start over on that. What am I going to do with this? Yeah. I don't want to be like a money asshole, but I think we have like an $8,000 bed or something.
Starting point is 02:28:26 I'm just going to throw that away and start over. That's a nice guest room now. I'm just going to buy that. It's a dope. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That dog takes up way too much room.
Starting point is 02:28:37 It's literally, it's a problem every night where, like, I end up with barely enough comforter or I'm, my little Pomeranian does the same thing. So he's like here on me while I'm asleep, like under my chin going, he snores like an old man. He's going to have to have that surgery to like fix his like,
Starting point is 02:28:55 no, just get him a beep pat. He's got a little, it's got a little, of the teeny deviated septum. Yeah, he's got a teeny deviated septum or something like that. And he snores and snorts all the time. I hear him now that cock sucker.
Starting point is 02:29:10 So I'm sandwiched between them with like no room at night. And I was like, this is my bed. This is Margaret. You need to man up a little bit and have a bit of a fucking revolution. On one hand, it is silly that he's getting pushed around in his bed by a Pomeranian. On the other hand, I have no room to speak because my dog likes to lay on me. and I just put up with it. Great day and not laying on you's crazy.
Starting point is 02:29:33 I don't know. Two of them. Yeah. Yeah. I do like big dogs. Big dogs are cool. My family's always had, right now they have a border collie mixed with a whipit at the moment. That sounds neat, but also high energy, I bet.
Starting point is 02:29:48 Yeah, it was, but it's dying now. So the energy levels have come down a little bit, which is fine. It's a kind of a double-edged sword going on, right? now, but it is going to be a traumatic experience when she goes. But yeah, most of the time there's been big dogs, Alsatians. My dad used to have an Alsatian. My aunt used to have a big pit bull called Zeus or a Rottweiler called Zeus that was like the sweetest dog ever to us, but anyone else was a brutal threat pretty much.
Starting point is 02:30:20 It was like a weird dynamic going on. But yeah, I've always preferred big dogs for sure. It feels cool to have a big dog, no? No, you just Like I have guns Like I don't Like you know
Starting point is 02:30:34 We can just have guns here You do have guns here Can you guys have like What's the UK Can't you guys get like hunting rifles Like regular like 30 30s or something Like
Starting point is 02:30:47 Depends where you live Do you know people that have guns in the UK Some friend of this Of a that has a gun typically. But most of the time you'll have like a rifle, but you're only allowed certain types of bullets to go with it and it can only fire certain types of bullets. Something like a two-two rifle or something. And then if you're in the farmlands and if you're in the country, you can have like some pretty decent weaponry. I'm pretty sure. If you have need for it like pests and stuff like that, as far as even rabbits, like you can, if you're responsible for livestock, you can have guns. You can buy a mini gun here.
Starting point is 02:31:24 yeah it's fucking insane I know it's the land of the fucking free don't need to remind me mate it's like horrible I bear I hate it What caliber are you allowed there Like 22 can't be the max That's insane like Because I know people deer hunt there
Starting point is 02:31:37 Which means they need at least a What a 308 guy? Yeah I guess something along those lines I don't know I have no idea what a fucking caliber is To be honest with you That's how much it's been beaten out of me The possibility of owning one
Starting point is 02:31:51 Calibur is roughly the diameter of the barrel and I know I know what the caliber is but I don't know what the caliber is you know I'm sorry I understand now yeah I know what 45 70 is yeah that's a 4570 is yeah that's a 4570 government is yeah something like that you FC fighter threatened to shoot someone by saying all I need is I'm gonna bring my 45 70 that's all I'm gonna need 45 70 that's all I'm gonna say 45 70 he kept just like reciting a caliber of gun it's not a common caliber of gun it's not a common caliber I know, it's like an way of threatening.
Starting point is 02:32:27 It's a large caliber. Wow, there you go. That would explain it. It's a little cowboy. Yeah, it was Kevin Holland. UFC fighter Kevin Holland was getting into it with Rampage Jackson on his podcast. It was one of my viral videos covering it. And Rampage was like talking to him.
Starting point is 02:32:42 They had some beef. And he just kept saying 4570. 4570. Just recited. What did Raja get? Did he basically get off? Did he get probation? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:32:52 He got 90 days with. with probation. Some of it's already been served, I believe, 81,000 in damages. He basically got nothing, to be honest with you, compared to what was... Paid for the medical bills. That's bananas.
Starting point is 02:33:06 And he has to stay out of trouble for a while. I know. He tried to kill somebody. Yeah, the guesses were that he would get six years, and then there was people saying that because of his status and financial situation, he could bring that down to three or four. But to get 90 days is actually insane.
Starting point is 02:33:23 And how long they took to get to the verdict as well is just, I mean, how about that California justice system guys? Well, classic. It's on video. I know. It's on the dream. Like trying to kill someone who's like, we're here. He's like the other guy's like the great Kali or whatever, like doing a stunt. And then he just gets attacked viciously and beaten near to death.
Starting point is 02:33:47 That's crazy. That guy should be in jail. You can't behave that way. do you think there's a weird thing going on with streamers where they're just not actually getting in trouble for anything whatsoever that they do? Because didn't that clavicular guy run over someone and then look at the camera and say,
Starting point is 02:34:02 I hope he's dead? I know that. Yeah, he said, I hope so, yeah. That's a real jip from the office turn. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:12 There was this like a fan that was like standing in front of his car. So he just floored it on him pretty much. He stalked clav. Yeah, yeah, he did. He was following him. But then Kav just like sort of like was sick of him. So flawed his car over the top of him. And you could hear him, boom, run him over with a cyber truck.
Starting point is 02:34:31 And the guy's in a wheelchair now from what I've last seen. And the cameraman goes, I think he ran over him. He could be dead. And he goes, I hope so. He's got no jail time. Well, you can't prove intent. But he could have been an accident. He was looking to the camera and saying, I hope.
Starting point is 02:34:51 he's dead is kind of a weird. Yeah, that could be taken so many ways. Well, did you see that Chud the builder guy? I did. I don't know. How do you guys feel about Chub? Brand the builder? Chuck. Oh, yeah. The Builder.
Starting point is 02:35:03 I've seen headlines, but I don't know the story. So I think Chud the Builder is a, I didn't know about him until like all this happened. But what I heard is that he's a streamer who will just straight up call black people the N-word to like provoke them. And I guess he was at a. courthouse, I think in Tennessee maybe filming and I imagining that
Starting point is 02:35:27 he called a black person the N-word and that person attacked him and he shot that person to death. Also shot himself a little bit. No, no one died. I saw in the story. No one died, though. No one died. Oh, okay. Well, that's good for him. My understanding, and I also don't follow
Starting point is 02:35:43 this guy, because I do have a extreme dislike of the streamers who just bother people in public. I fucking hate. that that's so shitty but he was going around being antagonistic to black people and i guess it went fine for a long while and then uh this one dude the guy who ended up uh attacking him is what he would say uh was posting on social media being like i'm gonna find where this guy is where chud is and i'm going to get him i'm going to find him and i'm going to get him and so he was posting on social
Starting point is 02:36:17 media he was going to do that and now i think the defense claim is going to going to be this guy posted, said he wanted to attack me, said he wanted to get me, and then he saw me in public, came over, attacked me, and I defended myself. Yeah. I saw a video, can't tell anything because it's in the shade from fucking a mile away. And so I have no idea what the truth is there. Yeah. Apparently, we used to provoke people.
Starting point is 02:36:44 Chudderbilt is like this massive guy, right, with the mustache and the cowboy hat. And you can see when he's like streaming himself and he goes, to black people and he'll basically just say, look at him, chimping out, chimping out again. And then they'll turn and go, what? Like they're about to knock him out. And then very quickly they go, oh, shit, he's actually fucking massive. And then that's how he's kind of been getting away with it, really. Is that he looks like a big guy.
Starting point is 02:37:08 He does. He has like, if you show a picture of him, his mugshot with the mustache, he does have, he looks like someone who should have been fighting in the civil war. Yeah. Like if you can get a front forward facing photo of him. That's General Chud the Bigot. He leads the dirtiest brigade out of Mississippi. Doesn't he have civil war looks?
Starting point is 02:37:35 I asked Chad GPT if that was legal. I was like, what is the law around this? Like there's a thing called fighting words where like if you say the right bad thing to me, I'm legally allowed to fight in assault. apparently the N word is not bad. It doesn't justify assault. So that guy who went into violent mode because he was called a slur, like I guess he is self-defense.
Starting point is 02:38:03 This guy seems like a complete dickhead with his behavior. But like, if someone attacks you because you say something they don't like, you can defend yourself. Like you, that's right. Well, also you can defend yourself if someone says the wrong. thing. It's a Supreme Court decision. I looked it up. There's something called fighting words, and you can commit the first assault with words. Maybe I'll look it up. Assault and battery is a thing because assault doesn't require you to touch them. Assault is if I
Starting point is 02:38:34 like bucket you or if I say, I'm going to beat you up and I'm walking toward you aggressively. I've assaulted you just by doing that. The battery is when I lay hands on you. When you hear those charges go hand in hand. You can routinely get in the way. You can routinely get in the way. of someone's movement in the UK and it's considered assault. Like if you like someone's trying to get past you and you go up and you're like stepping in front of them,
Starting point is 02:38:57 that can that can be considered assault in the UK. Yeah, that makes sense. I have a little bit. Fighting words. Words would let you defend yourself physically. Direct face to face threats like I'm going to kill you right now. Extremely personal insults delivered
Starting point is 02:39:15 aggressively at close range. And certain epithets shouted directly at someone in a confrontational way. Isn't that what Chud did? I thought that fighting words were just the threat part. I didn't know the rest. Where I was like, I'm going to fucking kill you. I think what the conversation is right now on social media is that if the M word and slurs are not fighting words, as you put it legally, then this kind of thing is going to be the type of situation that will lead it to become that.
Starting point is 02:39:47 Like this guy is probably going to be the president. Yeah, this will be the type of thing that will set a president for that moving forward. I think they're going to argue that he wasn't a piece of shit. I think shut the builder is a piece of shit, to be honest with you. Everyone always asked me in my chat. What do you think about him? It seems like a dickhead. You, dude, you stream.
Starting point is 02:40:05 Listen, I'm racist, but listen, man, let's have some class about this, you know. That's the way. Everyone's always those. And figures, folks. Like, come on. I get labeled that a lot. I get labeled. stories racist.
Starting point is 02:40:18 Yeah. If I get labeled it, you always get like the Fuentes questions and the chud the builder questions in chat. But let's have some fucking forum here because you're walking around the street, you're provoking people. And then this is the bit where it's kind of just a bitch move. They're like starting a fight with you. And then you're pepper spraying them in the face.
Starting point is 02:40:37 Like that's some gay shit, man. You know, that's some weak shit. Did you pepper spray them too? Yeah, he'll provoke them. I've seen videos of this. Oh, other incidences. Yeah, other incidences where he, hasn't shot them, but he always has a gun on him where he'll provoke them. They'll say,
Starting point is 02:40:51 oh, you want to do something about it? Like, you're really going to go there with this? Like, they'll usually be acting out in the first place, but then he'll insert himself and be like, fighting words. And then they'll start going after him. And either he'll pepper spray them in the face and they'll immediately not go after him anymore because they're, yeah, it's right. Or he'll, off camera, you'll see a little movement and they're very quickly in these black guys eyes, they'll go, Oh, anyway, man. And he's very obviously just like reached for a visible weapon on his holster or something. And that's basically what he's been doing for a long time.
Starting point is 02:41:28 If he gets away with this, other people will follow the example. I know. It is not a secret that if you say the N-word, a lot of people want to fight you over it. You know, like if you say the N-word to a black person, it's almost standard response to go violent, right? that's not good though even if they told you to say it this is the age old trick that black people pulled that they used to pull because I went to like a majority
Starting point is 02:41:53 black school it was kind of like 50-50 the age old trick is if they're telling you to say it and there's a couple of them in front of you still hold your ground and do not say it because they're just sometimes they are just looking for an excuse to attack if we're being very honest yeah this guy
Starting point is 02:42:10 seems like likes to shoot guy and yeah drummed up scenario where he could do it. You see what the bond was? Has he shot other people? Like has, is this the first time he's let loose bullets? Pepper sprayed, I think.
Starting point is 02:42:25 Is he what his bond got set at? 1.25 million or something like that, right? Yeah, he didn't get in. His reaction to that was like, he's a piece of shit, but I felt bad. He just goes, he hears that number and he's just like, don't have that. But I did see.
Starting point is 02:42:43 I saw a poster. about it. His bond was set higher than that black kid who stabbed that white track kid to death in his own. It was set higher than that. And then people funded almost like a million dollars for the black kid. And he got to walk for graduation after murdering someone. Yeah. Whatever happened to that kid. No one knows. No. Yes. I don't know. Well, the white kid's dead. I don't know what. Oh, you would happen to him. Yeah. The black kid. Like, what is he in jail now i hope let's see what's his what's his i i hope he's in jail you can't just fucking yeah i i'm more than most people are kids yeah go on like i i was a dumb kid i never
Starting point is 02:43:27 killed anyone but i was just dumber than most kids and that extended all the way to like 19 or so so when i see a 17 year old do the worst possible thing i think i have more empathy than an average guy and like oh yeah but that cake is still cooking. You can't judge it by 17. You know, they didn't, but no. At the same time, don't carry a knife to school and stab someone to death because they told you to move the seat. I would never think of doing that when I was a kid. Yeah. I would never hear a night. I would never do that. Yeah. The fact that he had it in his back should have been sealed and dealed. This guy's going to jail for a long time. It wasn't like it was more common here. I have a knife in my pocket right now. I mean, yeah,
Starting point is 02:44:13 you wouldn't stab someone to death because you're a craftsman who went into their he's a 16 year old like kid at a track meet or something like he didn't need a blade there that day you know what I mean I never carried a knife at school I mean I worked on a farm so I had a knife I had I had like my little I had my case folding knife and everything and like wouldn't bring that thing to school I remember one time I accidentally brought my dad's like a pack of cigarettes to school I told them myself immediately I was like hey I accidentally brought some to school. We gotta do something about this. I can't have these. Like,
Starting point is 02:44:47 there's no way I've had it. Carmelo sincere Anthony is the name of the guy who murdered Austin Metcalf. His bond was set at $250,000 which is what, one fifth of the total of this guy who is claiming
Starting point is 02:45:07 that he defended himself. Who's to say if he was defending himself or not, you know, we'll have to see what pans out. Did you find out where he is now? Well, he walked for graduation and his bond was posted. And so I would guess that he's free. Didn't they have witnesses that said it was an argument,
Starting point is 02:45:27 but it wasn't physical before the knife came out? I'm fairly certain they had a witness there that claimed it was an argument. It was a heated moment. You might know more than me about it. I thought it was because the murderer, went into like a tent for their track team oh yeah for the other track
Starting point is 02:45:49 team and then stabbed him when the trial the murderer said you get out of here like you're not on our track team get the fuck out like you don't you can't be hanging out our test trial begins in June well there you go yeah he's facing
Starting point is 02:46:06 five to 99 years and it says he was on house arrest he wasn't quite free Xbox. House for us. Xbox gets to walk for graduation. It's like almost a million dollars from that's a good investment.
Starting point is 02:46:24 He could have gone on Johnny Somali mode. Yeah. The donations he would get. He would make so much money of people donating like $2 text to speech saying get out of that chair just to see how he would respond to it, you know? On the chud the builder thing, they were he had a go fund me that was quickly raising money and they just blocked that didn't
Starting point is 02:46:46 they they just blocked go fund me he's not allowed to raise money for his bail or something i even heard a thing on twitter about him on audio over the phone saying adem ross i'll fight on brand risk for free if you just put some money towards like yeah you saw that as well kyle yeah he's he's been like he's he's been trying to sort of expend every option that he has he needs to get out of jail yeah because there's a lot of tennessee jail he's get the fuck out. He's going to get killed. It's unlikely you'll get killed in jail. What if he brings
Starting point is 02:47:17 a gun? I'll just smuggling. I bet they took that off of him when they booked him. Oh, I know. Yeah, I would not want to be him in jail. I don't know how big of a jail he's in, but like, the little jail that I was held in was nothing.
Starting point is 02:47:33 It was a bunch of people who'd been caught for like meth and stealing fucking hubcaps and shit. They were good old boys. You think Chud is going to make a principal stance and not join the white supremacist group. Hopefully he doesn't end up in prison where that actually exists. I mean, I can get behind a lot of his behavior, but hypocrisy. I don't know if I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:47:56 You're a Latin king? What the fuck, bro. I mean, do a lot, but don't you dare be a damn hypocrite in here. It's literally the old Norm MacDonald family. He's like, hey, you know, the worst thing about these rapists is the hypocrisy. I was like, no hypocrisy. I was thinking it was the red.
Starting point is 02:48:19 The drugging, the scheming. I remember he mentioned, scheming is almost as bad to even think about such a thing. You've watched that show 60 days in where they send to undercover people into jails. The Atlanta jail is the only jail that ever got featured twice.
Starting point is 02:48:36 They did a whole lot, they were like, endless material here. Let's just do another fucking season. That's how rough the Atlanta jail. is and there was a part when I was being sentenced for my marijuana thing where the it was like best case scenario house arrest oh that sounds good I'd love me some house arrest would you notice the difference no that wasn't going out anyway bro I was I was dreaming of house arrest and I was going to really have to play it up how disappointed I was to receive it in court oh no I was praying for it. But worst case
Starting point is 02:49:11 scenario though was the Atlanta jail. Because my, because they were only going to give me 60 days like worst case was like they just put me in jail. And it's literally that jail from 60 days in where people are getting beat up and
Starting point is 02:49:27 like jumped into gangs and shit. It's a rough fucking jail. You got hope for a good pod boss. You don't want to rule whatever his name was. I've seen so many 60 days in episodes. My channel. I wish Taylor is here. He's a big fan.
Starting point is 02:49:43 We had a couple of those guys that had been on the show as guests before. Nice. It's always been interesting. I think the guy we had. I think the guy we had the guy for me. Yeah, Nate. Something like that. He was like cool with the black guys in jail.
Starting point is 02:49:57 They actually liked him because he could play basketball right or something. Yeah. I think it was that guy. Yeah. I think he died over something with a girlfriend or a breakup. He self-done him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 02:50:12 I think so. Real shame. Yeah, but yeah. His audio is terrible. If Chud's in a place like that, he's not saying. I'd have given him 60 more days for that audio if I was king. Okay. Just talking about his dad and you're speaking like his funeral.
Starting point is 02:50:32 His audio was just fucking abysmal that episode. Yeah, that guy showed up talking to his cell phone and a car or some of the Tamigot. That wasn't him, was it? No, it was. I think I've seen a clip of you guys talking to. It was bad. He looked like he was still in a cell.
Starting point is 02:50:49 It was, no, I love 60 days in. I love her, you know what I loved is how Abner went into there. And the cell wasn't really doing the racial stuff. And very slowly over Abner's stay, he made it racist, basically. Like, he made it a racial segregated place. They were kind of getting along. They were chilling in races, but they were cool with each other. Like, it wasn't.
Starting point is 02:51:12 My favorite one was, and I don't remember where it was anymore, it's somewhere in the south, I'm sure. But they send in a big black guy as an undercover. And he immediately, I think he had been a prison guard before. So he's like steeped in prison politics. And he immediately like takes an alpha position in the pot where everybody's kind of worried about this new guy. He had loaned some guy some soups or something, you know, like some ramen noodle facts or something who didn't have any money. Like, yeah, he loaned him to him.
Starting point is 02:51:41 And then the guy's like, I can't pay you. I'm not going to pay you. He took that man's pants. He took another man's pants away from him as collateral till he could come up with the soups. And it's like, dude, you're not a real prisoner. You just strip, you just took that man's pants. He's like, couldn't let him pump me like that.
Starting point is 02:52:01 Couldn't let him punk me like that. Fuck, dude, you're not. And he was finding blades and drugs and stuff. He was, he would come into the interview me like, I got this. Like, they're giving him weapons because he's like the alpha now. He had really, Tony.
Starting point is 02:52:16 That was Tony. This is him. I could fucking run this place. Yeah. He was a former corrections officer. And as soon as he went in there, he like immediately ran the place basically. Like straight away, he was like, guy, who's in chart? Like, who's actually, who thinks they're big dog in here?
Starting point is 02:52:32 And there was a guy called Champagne that was in the cell with him, who was like this taller, six five skinny. kind of looking black guy. And he was like, he, he basically intentionally lented champagne something so that if he did give it back, then you would, he would know that he feared him. Was it him? Or, yeah, no, it wasn't. It was like ramen or something. No, Tuttle was in a different pod. I remember Tuttle. But he lent him something so that it would basically give him an excuse to jump him if he didn't give it back. And then I remember him taking that guy's clothes. You right, right, go in the cell and give me everything you have on your body under the cell door.
Starting point is 02:53:08 and he basically stripped this guy nude in the cell, taking all of his clothes under the door. And I remember he said something like champagne thinks he's tough in here, but if things got busy, I would definitely put champagne on ice. Like, he had no fear in that pod. He was probably the most dominant ever. Aaron was another good one, the white guy.
Starting point is 02:53:34 We had him on the show, I think. And then he, I believe, killed him. himself. Oh, okay, second. I thought I mentioned that a moment ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:42 Yeah. That was Nate. Yeah. I thought it was Nate. Nate. Yeah. Okay. And there was another guy, Ryan,
Starting point is 02:53:48 yeah, combat medic that I like. Oh, yeah. He was, he, he went about it in like the way a reasonably defensive, defenseless guy should.
Starting point is 02:53:59 It was cool to see that other dynamic because him going in there, he probably had Asperger's, probably a little bit of an autism in him. He thought he was this genius guy. And he kind of, did smart his way through the system by just being cool and being of benefit not to get beaten up.
Starting point is 02:54:15 Who was it that started leading prayer groups? Like, started all the prayer groups. We had him on the show too. Yeah, we had him. Mark. Yes. I was like, man, that's the most manipulative thing. I'd have never thought of that. Like, you became their fucking reverend.
Starting point is 02:54:31 Like, oh, man, what a way to get like respect from just about everybody and to make sure nobody bugs you. and to actually get some preferential treatment. Like, nobody's going to fuck with that guy. He leads the prayer group. What are you going to punk him for? He just taught me yesterday about Elijah.
Starting point is 02:54:52 I mean, that was smart from him. Yeah, that was smart from him because he did look like a bit of a victim. Like, when I saw him loading in, I was like, oh, God, dude, this guy's going to get done like that one guy who basically was within an hour of being in the pod on the brink of being ready. basically was one of the contestants was so bad. Like he was just sitting there like while they were tickling his ears and going and he was like freezing up on the ground. I'm like, dude, start acting like you have a headache immediately.
Starting point is 02:55:21 Like you need to you need to get out of here. You need to say, you know, 76 or whatever needs to happen to get you. God, I have a really bad headache. My shoulder, my shoulders acting up. That's the dude that they tell him. That's a great premise for a show. I like anything hidden camera. Have you seen, I think it's called jury duty, where here's a premise of jury duty.
Starting point is 02:55:47 It's a reality show about a jury, and they're like, we're going to have cameras in the courtroom. We're going to have cameras in the jury deliberation room. We're even going to follow you back to your hotel, because this isn't about the case. It's about the jury, except there's only one true contestant who's on a show about a jury. Everybody else is an actor who's been like practicing this for weeks. There's a full production crew. It's all hidden camera bullshit. There's no case.
Starting point is 02:56:16 There's no judge. There's no defendant. It's all bullshit. And they've got this, they've got a Hollywood actor named James Marsden, I think. He played Cyclops in the X-Man movies. He's part of the jury duty too. So that throws this weird wild card into it where he's being like an obnoxious Hollywood guy.
Starting point is 02:56:34 and the one guy who's getting pranked essentially it's like the whole way through he's just a wonderful person like he's given all these opportunities to like beat a bad guy or like be a piece of shit and at the end he wins like $150,000 when they finally reveal to him like he he's able
Starting point is 02:56:53 all the jury wants to convict the guy and he's able to guide them to the correct choice and like find the guy innocent of everything that's going on and at the end when they reveal like the judge is like I mentioned it to be of this case that this would be my last case because I'm retiring. It's actually my first case because
Starting point is 02:57:10 I'm not a judge and this isn't a courtroom and you're not on a real jury. And like the cameras come out and everything and it's this ridiculous reveal. It's pretty good. It's pretty funny. Yeah. I like those types of shows. It's a high risk show. Because
Starting point is 02:57:26 all it takes is that guy being like this sucks. Like leaving and then jury do you're done. So he can't really leave. He's like that's part of the beauty of it is they get sequestered right away so they can't even leave their hotel. So it creates all these like... So this guy had to miss like three weeks of his real job for... Well, he was signing up for that.
Starting point is 02:57:46 He was signing up for jury duty. And also at the end, they pay him, I think it's $150,000. Like a prize. This show could never happen in the UK because they buy, they are bypassing. They're trying to push a law to bypass the possibility of jury. of having a jury decide your crime for certain crimes under a certain level. They're trying to push a law to where there will be no jury possible. And they'll just speed through.
Starting point is 02:58:16 What sort of times? Like, where you guys get a little too edgy on social media? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that included, but probably like assault and like simple shit where it can be like witness this, that. No jury needed for a lot of those types of things. It's what they're trying to push, but there was massive backlash. It feels like there's a protest every week in the UK. these days. Oh, this is a UK story. I saw this, this Sikh, did you see this Sikh guy? Like, murdered a British kid. Yeah. Like in the street. And then when the police showed up, Kyle, I don't know if you've heard
Starting point is 02:58:50 about this. Because Sikhs are allowed to carry gigantic knives and the rest of the population, I guess, isn't. Sign of a conquered country. Who knows? But they have it. And, This guy murdered a kid, like an 18-year-old with a knife, stole his phone and other things from him. And then when the police got there in the UK, the Sikh guy said he was being racist. And so they handcuffed this bleeding out dying kid on the street. And he died on the street. Handcuffed. Died hand-in-in-ambulence or anything.
Starting point is 02:59:30 It's crazy. Did he kill him with the ceremonial like Sheik Blade? Yeah. I killed them with the ceremonial seatbelt. The Kirpen. Kerpen. I've known seat guys and they wear a necklace with a very,
Starting point is 02:59:44 very tiny, like not even a letter opener type thing just to fulfill the religious requirement. This guy was in it to win it. Fucking eight inch blade. They basically store, oh, the UK's allowing us to, basically, if something is of
Starting point is 03:00:00 a culture that isn't British, they will allow it to happen in the UK massive. They're even, they even like had a big thing in houses of parliament to where they're now pushing through like acceptance of cousin marriage again. And I remember seeing that on the news. I'm thinking, damn, when I was 10, I thought we were going to have flying cars. And I'm looking at parliament decide whether or not cousin marriage should be normalized. It's going to be Rickshaws for you. Yeah. I wonder.
Starting point is 03:00:27 I wonder why that is. Yeah, but that kid got that kid. And then while he was bleeding out, the police came. and the guy stayed there, the Sikh guy stayed there, and said he was in a really drunken rage, and he said all of this racist stuff to me and tried to knock my turban off or something like that. So I stabbed him to death,
Starting point is 03:00:46 which even still is a crazy response. But it's all, you know, there's at least some argument for him to get a lesser sentence, maybe, unless he's Rajah Jackson, I guess. But he had like a big thing about how the guy was in a drunken rage, and the police, while he was bleeding out, I guess, did a blood alcohol thing on him and it was under the legal limit to drive
Starting point is 03:01:08 so he could drive he wasn't until he couldn't handle his alcohol you're like you're like you're like bleeding out and handcuffed dying and the police are like blow into this might yeah it's a crazy thing fucking stupid
Starting point is 03:01:22 but the thing is there is still people in the UK will completely ignore that so as not to be called bad it's a really tough time The UK is probably the highest percentage, populace or not of retards and gays, I think, at this point. I don't know how much I think. You guys aren't able to, like, push back meaningfully at all. Not even on social media.
Starting point is 03:01:46 Like, you'll get arrested if you say something, like, racist or perceived as bad. Yeah. You do have to go quite extreme. We were just talking about Count Dankula. Yeah. He had the pug that did the Nazi salute, and he got in all that legal trouble. hilarious prank, by the way. Like, that's funny.
Starting point is 03:02:04 By the way, it's just lifting its pore up as, I don't want to do it. Fucking hell. It's just lifting. Oh, God, it's the mind of its ownness thing. No, it just kind of lifted its pore up. They're acting like it hit the tash as well on it. Like, he really just lifted his poor up, you know? I think it lifts the poet up to a verbal command.
Starting point is 03:02:24 And I don't, I don't remember what it was, but it might have been something like Sig Heil. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I think he would say, hail Hitler. and then the dog would do it. That was the verbal command. Can you imagine how much work it took saying Sig Heil to get a dog to respond to it? And how much effort it took for this prank, for this joke? If he had thin walls, can you imagine what his neighbors were thinking was going on? Hearing him repeats that command over and over and he got it.
Starting point is 03:02:53 No, no, no. Sig Heil. Like this. Again. Yeah. And we've had Count Dancula on the show. We know he's not a fucking Nazi. Like, it was funny.
Starting point is 03:03:05 He is an edge lord, though, you know. Of course. Yeah. You need a Nazi saluting dog. You need edge lords. I was when we were all edge lords. I was when we were all edgloods. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:16 Yeah, hopefully get him on soon. I've been asking for him again for a while. I know, isn't he in like, he's not, he just looks like that guy. He's in the UK. He's Scottish. He's Scottish, right? Yeah, he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:30 Yeah, he's great. you as an Englishman have any animosity towards Scots or Irish like in modern day like is there any of that? There is, but it's performative. And even me saying that, a Scottish person or an Irish
Starting point is 03:03:45 person would be like, no, it's fucking not palais, it's not performance at all. And they'll get up in arms about that, but you know it is. It's like a beef that we have, but it's not really a beef. It's just... I imagine it being like SEC football. Yeah, yeah. Like if we work
Starting point is 03:04:01 both in a foreign country, we'd get along like, we're the same thing. Like if Scotland's playing England in a soccer map, does that get like heated and physical? Yes, yes. It's like a big thing. It's a big deal. It's like, yes, we fuck, yeah. Like, Scotland, Scottish people
Starting point is 03:04:17 routinely root against England in the World Cup because they never make the World Cup. So they just spend their whole World Cup experience watching England and hoping that they lose, basically. Yeah, but the way I put it is if like a Scottish, Irish and English person were in a bar in Thailand.
Starting point is 03:04:35 They would get along like they're the same thing. But back home, we're completely different things that are at each other's next. Like, it's not really that way, but it is. It's like a culture of mild hatred. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:04:51 And it's not really that crazy. We get along if we're in person, but over social media, it's like a big patriotic thing against each other. I wouldn't think the scouts would be as bad. like I would imagine a little bit of animosity with the Irish. Yeah, Scottish and Irish get along. English and Irish is obviously going to be a beef
Starting point is 03:05:08 because we tried to make their people extinct. Yeah, crazy over-exaggeration from them. Really nothing in hindsight. But yeah, the Scottish thing. I remember some bombings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was something. I'm pretty sure, you know, the potato famine. That was a pretty rough one.
Starting point is 03:05:27 You know, it was crazy. If we saw an Irish person, when we were kids. And this is as young as me, which goes to show how kind of recent this was. Like it was in the 1900s or the 18th. It wasn't that long ago that we were still kind of heavily prosecuting the Irish
Starting point is 03:05:42 with the Northern Ireland, island thing. But when I was a kid, if you saw an Irish person, you would go, Potato. That's what you would do. It was a common thing.
Starting point is 03:05:54 There was a comedian on TV in the UK called Keith Lemon. And if he ever saw an Irish person, he would say, Potato. and like it was a tick like a Tourette's thing to mention it which is kind of insane but you know I don't know why they're so bitter against us
Starting point is 03:06:07 you don't know why it's the generations of murder, rape pillaging and Kyle you should be furious you're more Irish than Woody or I my people left the home country several hundred years ago I don't know allegiance to Ireland the country that couldn't bother to fight in World War II
Starting point is 03:06:24 you're not more Irish than me are you how Irish are you? 100% like 70% down I can look it up I think it's I think it's like 70% Wait wait wait are you including your English in there No it's like 70%
Starting point is 03:06:40 Irish and then like 25% English Or something it's like that's why I say I'm I'm the whitest of the whites Hmm you are that is that is quite The Irish are the whitest of the ones They know they're up there other than the Swedes maybe Hitler I think I'm at least 5% Irish Yeah but the Germans were like
Starting point is 03:06:58 Larpers as whites they ain't really white like, you know what I mean? They are. But, come on. This man knows what's up. You see this echoing my very word. See,
Starting point is 03:07:07 I was explaining the other day. They were like, oh yeah, all of all of fucking Europe is white. No, they're not, dude. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 03:07:16 Capital and W are not. Yeah. Lowercase white. This is a very special club and not just anybody can get in. Okay. How is German? Italians,
Starting point is 03:07:25 I'm looking at you. Okay. All right. You are not. Whoa. You said, Once we get to Slovakia, once we get to Slovakia, I'm on the edge, to be honest with you. Poland, are Russians white?
Starting point is 03:07:40 Yeah, but they're more Slavic. I don't know. Russians, they're different variants. That's also white, though. It is, but it's not white as white as is. Do you know what I'm saying? I guess I don't, because I'm a mutt from America. Okay.
Starting point is 03:07:56 It is white, but it's not the white, the, is the white that's like Anglo-Saxon yeah I don't I don't mean to be Hitler over here but by just I'm just trying to learn Hitler was far more
Starting point is 03:08:13 like yeah being Somalian is a very different thing than being Nigerian let's just call it what it is sure you're a very different thing with a completely different ethnic group just because your skin is the same shade like Japanese people are white by proxy then because even though they're different they still have white skin
Starting point is 03:08:29 you're right about Somalia Nigeria. I did wait not a Japanese people have white skin they're yellow they do
Starting point is 03:08:37 if they turn they don't look quite like white people South Koreans don't look white no really you don't think so what's a South Korean am I crazy
Starting point is 03:08:48 I've seen enough K-pop Twitter things to see that they are very white they've got those epicantle folds for like looking into high winds on the planes
Starting point is 03:08:57 like isn't that bearing like the eagle across the step that was yeah i mean i guess so i would i just see it as like different categories of white basically you know i'm saying they're asian they're asian southern italy is white by the way no i'm not talking about you know southern italy is not white you're trying to trigger me you know your people aren't white okay get over it mudblood yeah i'm not talking about asians i'm not talking about asians anymore i'm more talking about like you know eastern europeans more it 100% is yeah i'd love to claim them though they're just savages
Starting point is 03:09:29 is a fine. Hitler let Mussolini in the gang. You know, they were he let Hirohito in the gang. Okay, he was taking anybody he would sign on board, okay? And he only picked people. Oh my God, is that why he thinks the Japanese are white? Because they were in the same side as Hitler.
Starting point is 03:09:44 They don't get nearly as much backlash for it. It's okay. It's okay. They don't get nearly as much backlash. We're going to make fun cartoon. People forget. I guess two bombsies, but yeah. No, like, I remember, like, the propaganda.
Starting point is 03:10:04 They called them yellow monkeys, and they depicted them as, like, like, slanty-eyed devils up in palm trees with rifles and shit, with buck teeth and those round, like, those round glasses and those rice paddy hats and shit. They were rough. Yeah. Those anti-Japanese propaganda posters, like, somehow they went even harder than they went against Jews.
Starting point is 03:10:28 Like, they just, buck teeth Japanese like a line for both eyes brutal did they even have buck teeth I don't even think they have I don't think so
Starting point is 03:10:42 I don't think they had buck teeth at all right China Japanese I'm getting creative it's a big country someone must Chinese people have they should have the bad teeth thing they should have the bad teeth thing
Starting point is 03:10:54 the stigma of bad teeth Chinese people because they do have worse teeth than British people Settle down, UK. He can't go. No, it's true. I watch a lot of travel vloggers and they're in China walking around and they're all smiling, seeing like a white person.
Starting point is 03:11:09 I'm like, Jesus Christ, what is going on over there? Dude, their teeth are like. I've taken a lot of cruises from America to Europe or whatever around the Mediterranean and all the British people on it. I'm like, yeah, the stereotype about the teeth. That's on the money. Dude, show that, Zach. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 03:11:27 Is it a stereotypical? Is that a crazy thing is? Oh, okay. What is? What he immediately? I thought it was hilarious. You know what the funny thing is about this propaganda poster?
Starting point is 03:11:39 I don't think it's about World War II. I think it's from like the 70s and it's about fishing. Why did it give him fangs? Dude, fangs and bug teeth? hilarious. Like, going for both.
Starting point is 03:11:51 Making the fangs useless as well. They don't even get to the bite. And he's just killing like a trout? It says the japs are killed. the fishing industry. Oh, my God. This is from last week. I made the Spotify checks today.
Starting point is 03:12:05 They'll be the last ones. We didn't show it. This is history. They were kind of cool for a little bit there. Calm it down if that's what Spotify wants. Yeah, no horrible images shown. The reason why I'm a poster. The reason why I mention the different races of,
Starting point is 03:12:29 white though is because soon i'm going to make one of my riskiest videos okay i thought i'd maybe like sort of mention this on it's about time you're not going to make on the race issues yes yeah i know i'm going to make an m m race tier list on my channel soon and it may get me off youtube so i'm trying to be morally i'm trying to be consistent because i'm not going to include the russian whites in with the western european whites as the same group yeah those are caucasians i mean that's kind of cheating kyle's been tooting on that horn for years yeah caucasian and and white aren't synonymous? Not anymore.
Starting point is 03:13:01 Not since Habib came along at least. I don't know. That's how it works. They didn't want to give us him, you know, on our team. No, but it is true. They're very different. I think they share more DNA with like a, Ibran or something than they do.
Starting point is 03:13:15 Yeah, yeah, step people, Uzbekistanis, that type of thing than they do. Like, we're so far removed from that now, you know. I thought Uzbeks were a little Asian looking. They are. Yeah, they are. I thought it was a little Asian looking. and you all told me I was wrong.
Starting point is 03:13:31 Putin is a bit Asian looking like a court. I could see him being a quarter Asian. I need to see his eyes. He's very short as well, isn't he Putin? Peter Yan, UFC champion. He's a quarter Asian and you can kind of see him. Yeah, that's his white working overtime. I don't think he looks very step Asian looking at all.
Starting point is 03:13:47 Can we see a Putin picture, Zach? Try to find like an honest representation. Find his KGB photo. No, just to find any normal, yeah. well my point was the old pun is you know obviously he's aged but he's also had like weird health stuff going on where he looks bizarre like during covid he looked really weird when he was at those like long tables and shit like he looked up there you go you don't see it oh you think he looks a little i don't see it he looks like he looks like he's it a little look at those full cracker lips that is not yeah yeah yeah the mouth is is is not the same. But can you go back to the other one, Zach? Is that easy to do? He just looks like as he aged. His right eye
Starting point is 03:14:34 left on our screen looks even more Asian. And that's, I think, where I developed that opinion from old Putin. I think that's a weight gain. That could easily be an old Asian woman with a certain wig on dude. You couldn't you see that?
Starting point is 03:14:51 Easily. His lips got much less plump. Now, there's a real Asian. A capital. Yeah, there's a real Asian. that's a good point of You're saying the one on the right is Asian to you? Yeah
Starting point is 03:15:05 The leader of China An alien in Star Wars Well, what do you? Let's analyze it With our With our race discussion All right, all right, all right Let's play which one's the Asian
Starting point is 03:15:19 Hmm This is tough Yeah Is it the guy who's maybe blinking right now or maybe. Yeah. What are the shaking hands over there? Yeah, he's really Asian-mogged Putin here.
Starting point is 03:15:37 Now I think Putin's pure white now instead. Take a second to look at, is it President G? She is his name. President Xi? She. She's Jinping. Yeah. I think it's literally pronounced she like the English word for girl.
Starting point is 03:15:52 Anyway, look at his eyelids. Hal you can sort of like see the eye behind it. Now go to the young. Putin picture. Okay. We're really cross-referenced in the race is here. We're really trying to get to the bottom of this.
Starting point is 03:16:07 That hair lying on Xi Jinping. My God, what a hairline on him. On this outstanding. I mean, compared to Putin at something 12th. Like a lot of exposed eyelid. I'm sorry. This looks like a white man to me. No, because it would be
Starting point is 03:16:20 it would be the folds on the inner eye that you'd notice with Asian ad mixture. Isn't it like Typhoon defense? Like, is that why they have their eyes like that? I'm sure I saw something. Not typhoon defense. Do you mean tsunami?
Starting point is 03:16:38 What's the typhoon? What's like a hurricane, right? In Asia? Yeah. What's like a hurricane that's like mostly water is like a type of thing that I was thinking? I'm pretty sure they're all the weather systems are the same thing by different names. Yeah, I think. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 03:16:53 Yeah. They just call hurricanes. It depends the other direction or something. Cyclones. I'm sure I heard it. something about what like because the reason why our eyes and nose and mustache and everything grows the way it does
Starting point is 03:17:04 is because of rain for, right? I'm fairly certain. I'm only making this not because it's like my own opinion. I always thought it was sun. Nostrils down rather than at the front. That's why back. No, it's exactly got it right here. It's to protect against extreme cold, high winds
Starting point is 03:17:22 and snow glare. High winds. Is that not a typhoon? Come on. No. Well, because, like, people... It's a rare high wind. It is. It is. It is.
Starting point is 03:17:33 It's just a rare high wind conditions. People in Charlotte aren't developing me. Like, white are needed for a typhoon. This is very true. Dude, over time, Charlottesville people are going to really, they're going to really change.
Starting point is 03:17:52 I want to know how many racial groups did you divide the white, in two for your list? Three. I think I'm going to do three. I'm going to do the Western ones, including some of the north, but not Finland. And then I'm going to do the mid area, which is like the slabs, like Croatians, Balkan, Slavic area of whites. And then I'm going to do the Caucasian whites. And I don't know who I'm going to include the white, white Russians with, but I've still got to figure out.
Starting point is 03:18:19 What are the Caucasian whites? I don't understand that. Like Makashv Habib. They're going to be their own thing because they're such a niche group. I'm not going to give them I'm not going to credit them the same way I would credit an English fire and I'm going to do sub-Saharan African and then
Starting point is 03:18:33 I'm going to call a this is where I'm going to get in trouble I'm going to call a large portion of the map useless they're going to be useless tier because there's a large portion of the world that just has zero combat sports success so they're going to be quite
Starting point is 03:18:53 anything you'll get hate from your African listeners for not subdividing it up enough. Yes, true. Because I've said it before. Every once in a while, I'll go on Twitter and I'll look up like Kenya, Somalia or Ethiopia, Somalia. And it is the most ruthless battle of all time where the Somalians are claiming to be the
Starting point is 03:19:16 master race of Africans. And then the Kenyans will be like, fuck you. You suck. You are the worst. And you eat dirt. like they're horrible to them. Are you going to, Drickis always made the joke that he was the true African champion to guys like Adasanya and Usman.
Starting point is 03:19:37 And I always thought that was hilarious because he is an African champion or he was, you know. Does he get his own category, the African whites? He is currently the highest ranked African in the UFC. They may meet him on their team at this point because I am going to discuss the great falloff of the black fighter, but then I'm also. I'm going to give them credit historically for their success. Mexicans are going to be their whole group. I'm just going to do South America as well.
Starting point is 03:20:03 Are there any black champions right now? No, none. Not for a while. Inganu, kind of. Inganu, like a lineal sub-champ type thing. I don't know if he'd be champ right now. No one stays heavyweight champ very long. You'd think in Ganu may be that guy, but how do you know?
Starting point is 03:20:21 Yeah, but even in boxing at heavyweight, it's been Usik Fury, clitchcoes before them. So, I know, so it's a top five basketball players are European. Yeah, but is Wembe, European? By my tier list standards, Wembe and Giannis wouldn't be considered European. But yeah, there's a lot of Euroball players that are doing good, right? Yeah. It's been so long since we've had an American MVP.
Starting point is 03:20:45 They just did MVP again. SGA, Shane Gillis Alexander won two years in a row now. He must get confused with the other guy all the time. Like, you're not. Shane Gillis. Am I pronoun? No, no, no, no. You said Shane Gillis Alexander.
Starting point is 03:21:00 But what's his name? Shea Gillis. Oh, okay. It's actually Gillis. No, it's Gildius, isn't it? Gildius Alexander? I'm sure it's Gilgius. I'm so bad at this.
Starting point is 03:21:12 I'm the worst. Jay Gildgius Alexander. I'm fairly sound. Shane Gillis Alexander is so funny. He just keeps saying that. Yeah, Shane Gillis, Alexander. Go for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:21:22 We ever have a competition. I wanted to be names to face. cases. Yeah, gildius. Gilgius. Well, I've pronounced that wrong this whole time. I wanted to be geography. I do think I get straight. Taylor said me that link the other day.
Starting point is 03:21:35 How many of the countries did you label correctly with no guide, Taylor? One, either 145 or 147 out of 195. Because I couldn't get the fucking system to accept my Democratic People's Republic of the Congo
Starting point is 03:21:52 over and over. I couldn't. I couldn't. it's easy to spell it's just they didn't have it apparently i needed to do rep of the congo i checked after not you know democratic people's rep i wouldn't have gotten half that many i really wouldn't like when i saw you got all the stands correctly like you don't have a i can't no i don't know all the stands correctly i don't have gans taylor the secret is cheating there's there's seven stands right i think i would do pretty well with this other than like the little mini islands that their own thing. I wouldn't get those, but I think I'd do pretty good at this.
Starting point is 03:22:28 I'm ashamed at my midst of Vatican City and Libya and Taiwan and Qatar. It's your thing, too. I got everything else, but I didn't get these ones. And all these island countries are the red ones are the ones you missed. Yeah, these are all the ones. Oh, yeah. I didn't. Missing Leachinstein's understandable for a non-European. And you didn't get Andorra or did you get Andorra? I believe I got Andorra, but This is incredibly impressive
Starting point is 03:22:59 And what's interesting about your second go You knock out four more at least Like you wouldn't forget things like Taiwan and the Vatican next time Missing Palestine is a choice of yours We talked about this on the show And in my heart of hearts I was like I'm not saying I can beat Taylor But I'm not willing to lay down without trying
Starting point is 03:23:20 Dude, I'd have missed Malta and I've been there I can't hang. It was fun. I was just sitting there for, I guess. Did you have a list of countries? No. No. You just,
Starting point is 03:23:36 so I just went top to bottom in both where I was like, I know obviously the whole North and South American continent. And then I know all of Eastern Asia. And then I know most of Southeast Asia. And then. central Europe gets a little tough with some things, but it's Africa that it really, really gets seedy and difficult.
Starting point is 03:24:01 I will say this. Americans get a lot of shit for geography, but Europeans do not know countries in the EU, like you guys know states in the US, and it's borderline the same thing. That's something that you guys don't get credit for. There's so many states in the US,
Starting point is 03:24:18 I'm sure you guys can name them, or at least like 90-something percent. of them. A lot of English people, like the common English person, would have no idea what's going on in the Slavic area of the U.S. States for a joke. I could name all the states from the top of my head. No matter.
Starting point is 03:24:32 Do you know the capital of Missouri? I will get it. Missouri. What do I think of it? Missouri has two major cities in it and they're both trying to escape and I bet it's either of them. The capital of Missouri.
Starting point is 03:24:50 I don't know. what the capital of Missouri is for fuck sake. No. I don't know. Here's a hint. It's not Kansas City and it's not St. Louis. Nope. Those are the ones I was referring to. Those are the only ones I can name.
Starting point is 03:25:06 You like Springfield, Springfield, Missouri? No. Jefferson City. Jefferson City. I would never have come. Yeah. Not a great, not a great place. Wait, wait, wait, hang on a second.
Starting point is 03:25:20 I was thinking, Kansas City, that is not the capital city of Kansas. No, Kansas City is in Missouri. Yeah. You guys need to really that we need to fix it. That's an absolute joke. It really is absurd
Starting point is 03:25:35 when you learn that. Because if you don't live there, like I don't, like, you just assume that Kansas City is in fucking Kansas. Is it a little bit in Kansas or something? A couple of the suburbs spill out into Kansas, but it's the city itself.
Starting point is 03:25:51 in most of the suburbs are in Missouri. The only reason I know state and city names in the U.S. is from UFC fight night cards, basically. Like, or M1, Idaho, Des Moines, or whatever it is. Yeah, Stockton, California. The only reason I know countries is because we bomb them.
Starting point is 03:26:07 Yeah. Then we learn. I know if I can find that now. Oh, what in Iraq's capital used to be before we erased it. It's now rubble. Kansas and Arkansas not pronounced the same. you go. That's a fun thing.
Starting point is 03:26:24 That's a good point. Wow. Wack. Yeah. What is the pronunciation guideline for Arkansas? Why is it that way? Is that French? Yeah, probably. Wasn't the US split up between the English to French and the Spanish? And that's why they will have different names.
Starting point is 03:26:43 San Francisco, Los Angeles. Yeah. Compared to Missouri and on Mississippi and all these places. Yeah. And a bunch of our state are Native American Indian named. Idaho. Southeast, a lot of them are. Idaho apparently is a totally made up name.
Starting point is 03:27:01 Like a guy just said, there were the Idaho Indians. And it wasn't a thing. He just named it Idaho for no reason. Sometimes he'll hear about like, there'll be a river named the Wachahashi or something. And they're like, what does it mean? Well, they ask the Indian what the river's called, but he thought they were asking where's the river and he said over there.
Starting point is 03:27:23 So, Wachicacacci means over there. It'll be some shit like that. I grew up around the Tugolo River and all that stuff. There's no way that's how the Indians pronounce that shit. There's a, Tuglu. That's another one of those fucking tunders.
Starting point is 03:27:36 Remember you guys had your own Stonehenge and it got vandalized or destroyed or something? Yeah, they blew it up a tannerite. It would they do with it? Is it better? That was years ago. So it was a mystery. curious as to who had put that there. So it wasn't like a public thing. So I don't think they replaced
Starting point is 03:27:54 it with anything. It was in Elberton, Georgia, I believe, or in that area thereabouts. I've been there before because it's right off the side of the road. Guidesstones, right? Yeah, the Georgia guidestones. It was right up the side of the road near an area we hunted in. There was a lot of public land. And we'd go out, we'd go bow hunting for deer in there. And so we stopped and like walked around and looked at the thing one time. I think that it had in multiple languages the instructions on how to like rebuild society after an apocalypse and no one knew who put it there and it was this big expensive thing and then some loon blew it up
Starting point is 03:28:29 for no reason but it happened kind of around the pandemic so it was a conspiracies were big you know so you know they got us locked up indoors and then they blew up the guidestones how will we rebuild now you know i imagine some georgia vandals driving around and they're like you know what mailboxes just don't do it for me anymore there's probably a younger version of you
Starting point is 03:28:55 yeah I wouldn't have done anything like that like the craziest thing we did was putting like big fireworks and mailboxes and stuff like that but the idea like they it's hard to tell from a video but it looked a lot like when I used to blow up cars
Starting point is 03:29:07 and I put 10 or 20 pounds worth of tanner ride on something and shot it with a gun like it was a big pop speaking of COVID do you think they'd be able to pull off another lockdown with the way people
Starting point is 03:29:19 People's minds are now since the first one. Yeah, most people are retarded. They could easily. Yeah, they'd stop locking people up again. You know, they'd start dragging soccer moms off of fields for not wearing masks and locking up couples on beaches for sitting next to each other all along. And people would snap too again, especially if it were an exotic sounding dangerous virus that wasn't just a super flu or a bad flu.
Starting point is 03:29:43 If it made you bleed out your asshole and die, like, we'd hunkered it. We'd hunker down. Wait, everyone doesn't do that? No, Woody. Everyone doesn't do that for the last time. Stop sending me those pictures. Yeah, like the hentai virus. And why do you have to be in it naked?
Starting point is 03:30:02 He's like posing next to the toilet bowl like it's a fishy car. Give him a thumbs up selfie. I just send back a crying emoji every time. Oh. Yeah, no. guru 100% that you get away with it again. Yeah, you think? I don't know.
Starting point is 03:30:21 I have some respect for Americans not tolerating that shit. I know the UK would be locked down immediately. I think it would be much harder to lock down a second time. And people would just have a higher, it demand like better proof. I will say, was anyone really locked down? Because while we went through the pandemic, nobody was doing the lockdown shit. People were finding ways to get paid, but everyone was still really. going about their business. So some
Starting point is 03:30:48 businesses closed. And in that regard, I'd say the lockdown was kind of real, but no one was unable to leave their house. That was kind of a judgment calling. Try to stay inside if you can manage that. There was nowhere to go because most stuff other
Starting point is 03:31:04 than, what was it, didn't the government at the time give special credence to like Walmart, Target, large organizations? How do we remember any businesses being closed to, like, that I would have gone to. Oh, restaurants were closed, bars were closed, tons of stuff.
Starting point is 03:31:24 And I'm in Missouri. And like, we've bucked it harder than most, most states. UFC prospered. I missed the pandemic. It was great for video games. It was great for social media. It was great for UFC. Like, UFC was the only show in town.
Starting point is 03:31:39 Five islands. It was got that fight out. I'm still disappointed from that. That's top three biggest disappointments in UFC history. that they weren't, I don't know about you, but when I heard we were getting an island, I thought more of combat. I thought palm trees, sunsets. I thought, I thought, what's that bullshit?
Starting point is 03:31:58 The guy who starts with a K maybe, Kumate. I thought, like, some real deal shit. Doesn't that mean fight? I don't know what Kumete means, but I know it because there was this famous, there have been several guys who faked their way into MMA or, or like it's circles by pretending like there's some sort of a guru or whatever it may be. No offense. He's ugly targeted there.
Starting point is 03:32:27 Catching some strays here and I'm so sorry. But there was this one guy who, you know, he claimed to be like this grand triple black champion of a dozen martial arts. And there was this story about how he had a guy drop him off on a dirt road in the woods. and he's like, I'm going to go attend a secret kumate that's taken place secretly back and it fights to the death sometimes. And so he's like, pick me up in two days. And the guy comes back in two days and he's got a big trophy. There was no...
Starting point is 03:32:59 Joe Rogan told this story, I think, before, right? He went into the woods with a trophy-shaped bag. Like it was a bag that was a bag that was tight. enough around this thing to see that there was some kind of like a deal. And he didn't come back with the bag but came back with a trophy in the woods. This was the story.
Starting point is 03:33:23 And Rogan. We're all trying to crack this case together. Put your thinking cats on. I don't know what happened. The guy in the hot dog suit, we're all trying to find the guy who did this. If I was let down by fireland as well, I thought it was going to be palm trees,
Starting point is 03:33:40 you know, two men go on to the island, only one man leaves. type of thing or if you lost you had to row back to mainland type of thing but yeah it was just a cake in a hotel if they replaced the UFC events with like 30 day survival events yeah yeah yeah true that would be cool this hunt the other guy down while you're still better josh fabio the ultimate fire joshua fabia yeah yes i do is that diego the nightmare chint yes yeah the nightmare sanchez is bullshit guru coach they gay lovers as well it really seems like that Joshua may have been predatory
Starting point is 03:34:15 in regards to poor nightmare Sanchez as I refer to him. It was literally like manic episode stuff there for a while where Diego was not all there either from CTE or mental illness or what I think is both and that Joshua Fabia guy was he had him like
Starting point is 03:34:37 dangling upside down like slap him in the face. He was like chasing him with a with a knife in like a ring. He's like, he's like, that. I guess like you need the fear of like death to like maybe tap into some natural fucking movements or something like that. Who knows what bullshit he was making up along the way. Do you know that they tried to set up a bare-knuckle fighting match between me and Diego Sanchez at one point? I did not know that. That is a crazy sublaw right there.
Starting point is 03:35:07 So I of course immediately like being a fan of the sport, I know that I have no business. being near those people. We know Joe Lozahn pretty well. We went on a bunch of trips with him. And I've roughhoused with him and seen him do his thing and his athleticism. Oh my God. You don't want to fuck with a guy
Starting point is 03:35:26 who's a professional at beating people up. It's what he does. It's what he fucking does. And any tough guy on the street needs to know that you could be killed. Like they could take your life like it's not. But of course. So I knew I wasn't going to take the fight.
Starting point is 03:35:41 But I played it up like I was. and started talking shit about Diego and I got him to reply back, it was gold. It was gold. He was like, yeah, I saw that Russian guy. He's all jacked up on steroids. No big deal. I thought people that were cheating before.
Starting point is 03:35:55 He's a big boy, but I'm going to take. I think I can take him. And I'm like, I love that he's giving me so much respect that he thinks he can take me. He has no idea how afraid of him I am. And briefly on our show, I was like, all right, guys, this is the part you don't clip out. I know that Diego can murder me.
Starting point is 03:36:13 know that I have no business standing near him or holding his jockstrap. He's a professional athlete. He may not be at the top of his game, but he'll kill me. I know that. All right. Action. All right, Diego. When you're not getting fucked in the ass by that Fabia fellow, maybe you'd like
Starting point is 03:36:29 get slapped around in the octagon by yours truly. I'm just going to a whole fucking rant. It was great. That whole. Yeah. That whole Fabia thing was so odd, though. Like the way they would have. videos, it almost looked like he had a gun in Diego Sanchez's back or something. Like, it was
Starting point is 03:36:48 such an odd moment. And the weirdest part was he won a fight under that training. Yes. Was Ronda Bell's coach's biggest scam artist? Well, didn't he win by like, wasn't it? Wasn't a DQ win? Yeah, he got a DQ win over Michael Paheia. Yeah, I got illegally beat up because he was in such obscure positions during the fight. He ended up getting illegally needed to stumble into the need of the face or something like that. But he was running like this in the fight towards Mikhail Paheo who was just like, what the fuck is this? Like he was so confused, he couldn't beat up Diego Sanchez.
Starting point is 03:37:23 And he was using the force, moving his hands around. That's what I miss about the UFC. Where are our autistic people? That wasn't the one where they told him to throw sand, was it? That's Tony Ferguson. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny too. Him sand, Tony, give him sand.
Starting point is 03:37:39 It did not work. It did not work. There's no sand. It's imaginary sand. Of course. They were on Flight Island, though. Maybe that was part they were thinking maybe it would be a different layout. You never know. Remember when Diego came out with the crucifix? Like he was about
Starting point is 03:37:53 to fight a Dracula? Yeah. That's a pretty badass look. He had like a big one and he's like foaming at the mouth literally and he's screaming some religious shit. Like Jesus protects me or something crazy. And he's so
Starting point is 03:38:10 intense. It's not an act. Like he's literally hyped him himself up like a Celtic berserker or some shit. Like he had a sick case. Was it a weak cross or was it a strong cross? Like one of the ones where Jesus is on there? Memory does funny things, stuff like that. I love that funny story. So in my head, I'm picturing like a Van Helsing silver cross with rubies on it.
Starting point is 03:38:33 It's like eight inches tall, you know, like a big boy. Like he'd go fight a devil with. But it could have just been a regular crucifix necklace. The one guy came out carrying a crucifix. Remember that? Like Jesus. Like he came out like with literally cross. Like he was being crucified.
Starting point is 03:38:50 Yeah. He bored. And he like tuckered himself out and lost the fight. He brought his own cross out. No, he carried it over his shoulder like Jesus did. Like with the hook of one of the sides. How big he did? Like big enough to crucify a boxer.
Starting point is 03:39:05 Yeah. Yeah. That seems like the poor energy expenditure. Yeah. This is what I missed, though, about MMA. We don't have these types of characters anymore. We have Josh Hockett. I know, but it's fun.
Starting point is 03:39:17 Josh Hockey, I don't know if you guys are aware of him. He's basically, I think, saw what Sam Hyde did as the Candyman, and he's made it his own thing. He only speaks in poems. It's a, he's got a split personality thing going on where he'll snap out of it and become the real Josh. Yeah. And he's actually pretty fucking good. And he's fighting at the White House.
Starting point is 03:39:37 And if he wins, he's going to be in the top five. So he's going to be in the top five. so he's going to be a superstar if he wins his name's Josh Hawkins Hawkins H-O-K-I-Gy he is and a former
Starting point is 03:39:47 top division one wrestler he's a he's a former what Kyle NFL oh okay yeah how old is he's a beast oh he's he's surely
Starting point is 03:39:57 he's a heavy weight though so you know what I mean his last long his last fight was so good that was one of the best heavyweight fights I've ever seen my god he was active he's I mean they were getting a little tuckers but that's incredible gas tank for a heavy weight.
Starting point is 03:40:12 When you watch like an Angano fight, how slow it is, how few blows are thrown, it was a fun, fun fight. And then to immediately get that rematch against what I think is the perfect opponent for him, a guy with no gas tank and only one move. His Xbox controller has only one fucking button on it. And he can wrestle. We've seen what DC did to Derek, Blackbeast. I don't see why hockey can't do the exact same.
Starting point is 03:40:39 thing. Just fucking take him down and hold him down. He can't get back up. He's so much fatter and so much slower and has less cardio. He's older. He's 40? He's got to be old now if he fought DC. He's been retired for a bit. I mean, Derek Lewis has the most
Starting point is 03:40:55 COs in UFC history, right? Him and Matt Brown, I think, are up there. I would imagine. So he has a lot. Yeah. It's the only way he can win, really. Yeah, it is. Every win he has is a fucking nightmarish KO pretty much. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:41:09 I think Hockett's going to take that one. I'm excited for it. This guy Josh Hockett's Wikipedia picture is him with a beanie pulled over his eyes and seemingly wearing grills. That's his character, the downvato is when he becomes Mexican. And he says, hey, Holmes, you disrespect me, dog. I want to beat your ass, huh? He was talking shit. Oh, I see why you.
Starting point is 03:41:32 He's like half Mexican. I see why you say he was a Sam Hyde guy. Yeah, yeah. he has one where he's the down Varto and then he has the other one where he's Siff Lord Hockett where he's wearing a robe and he will really get up with the poems
Starting point is 03:41:48 I think he called Derek Lewis the Black Pillsbury Doe Boy or something like that I don't know what else he was going off but I like him I think he had a lot of excitement he was starting shit with everybody he started like talking shit to Alex Perea who's so terrifying and he's just he's just like
Starting point is 03:42:04 I gave your mom a golden shower He's like, just, that trauma on your mama. And then Ilya Staporia steps up to defend him because fucking Alex Pira don't speak no goddamn English. He don't know what's happened. He's smiling there like Lenny. And fucking Ilias like starts talking shit to him. He's like, I'll fuck you up too, you little midget.
Starting point is 03:42:30 I don't care about no weight classes. That's great. Oh, he said, oh, yeah, and don't find your wife in Miami. and he was getting dragged out the press conference by security. Yeah, they drag him out. I love it. That's the best part about this guy for attention. He sounds funny.
Starting point is 03:42:45 He is. Every time he wins, he has a pre-programmed or a rehearsed poem about what he did and what he's going to do next. And it's terrible and amazing at the same time. It's real good stuff. And it makes me feel, yeah, we do. We do. And it makes me feel, man, I wish we got more Sam Hyde fights. I really wish there was like a repertoire of that three or four of them that we could go through.
Starting point is 03:43:12 He beat the breaks off of that brave man who decided to step up. How much did I get paid? I have no idea. But his opponent was like six one. And I've been around. I've met and talked to him and hung out with him. Sam Hyde is an enormous person. Like talk about my skull and guru skull.
Starting point is 03:43:32 No, he's Neanderthal there with. that thing. Like there's, I don't know how you'd knock him out if you wanted to. And then he beat the breaks off that guy. And then at the end, do you remember where he was calling out that commie streamer, Hassan Piker, where he's like, I'm going to kill you at your house and rely on to your house in LA and kill you. And they're like, what you mean is you're going to, in the interviewer was like, what you mean is you're going to discuss things with him? And he was like, no. and his house because you didn't think
Starting point is 03:44:09 threatening him the guy the interviewer true geordia I think it was said you mean in the boxing ring right he was an English guy and Hans Sam Hyde goes no
Starting point is 03:44:18 in real life I'm gonna find you I'm gonna wear your skin and put on your makeup but all of this stuff of stuff I wish we got more out of that dude it was so funny
Starting point is 03:44:32 I don't know why fighters are so bad at like that part of the gig. Don't take yourself so seriously, first of all. Like, I always admired. I'm spacing it. He just got cut. He went full MAGA mode.
Starting point is 03:44:47 Kobe Covington. I loved Colby Covington's schick. Wasn't that his grift? His like, his like, schick was being whole MAGA, right? Yeah. That was part of it. But it was also about being like the dude. He was always doing videos with like these paid models, like,
Starting point is 03:45:04 pretending like they're in the shower with him and stuff like that. It was sort of like this alpha male character who's going to shit on you and stuff. And it was incredibly cringy and like inauthentic. No, but that's the point. It's a thing to talk about. It's like whether you love that or you hate that and I feel I'm kind of in the middle. Like I love that he's doing and I hate what he's doing. But that's a story.
Starting point is 03:45:27 Now I got a guy saying a thing and like getting this fight going, I hate when we're just up there and it's like we're paying each other. compliments. And we're like, oh, he's a, he's, he's, he's a tough. Like, Gaichi was like, yeah, Ely is probably my second toughest fight ever. It's second only to Khab. You know, nothing but respect. Like, come on, dude. Call him short. Call him fucking short. Like, like, tell him that you're going to kick him, kick a Mexican out of the country in front of the president. Guy's not Mexican. He's Spanish, I think. You know, like to make it incisive. Yeah, I like there to be beef. If there's
Starting point is 03:46:01 beef, I'm way more likely to watch. And I'll also watch a guy I hate. It's the Floyd Mayweather syndrome where I'll tune in just for the chance that this other guy might beat you up because I dislike you so much. So if you can be hated like that or funny
Starting point is 03:46:17 or somewhere in between, I love Chelle Sonnen. Chelsunschstick is amazing. And he carried it on all the time. He was always in character. Like he's, last time I tuned into him, he was trying to start a fight with Mazvedal. You know what I mean? Like, I doubt they have real beef, but they're both really good at their fucking jobs and selling fights.
Starting point is 03:46:37 I'd watch if they boxed. If Forheim Asvidol fought Chale-Sunnen, that would be one of the more interesting fights for me this year. Like, like I would love that. Yeah. I love Chale. Like, yeah, he's on the source, though, so he's still got it a little bit. He's on that testosterone. You can see it in his neck with the vein.
Starting point is 03:46:57 I'm not saying he doesn't have it, like, compared to a regular person. but who do you get beat by at the end of his career? Maybe it was Fador. Yes, Fadour and Yeah, Rampage, I think he had a fight with. I think he might have even won that one, to be honest. He had a few Bellator fights with some monks. Yeah, and I thought he lost the last one in a really unimpressive way.
Starting point is 03:47:18 Machida? Maybe that was. I know his name if you say it, but that's not the one's coming in my Jita or something. The Oto Matida. Before Anderson Silver in a boxing match that was clearly rigged as a sparring match. as well. I didn't see that.
Starting point is 03:47:32 It was a big part of it. They were really holding back punches intentionally. But yeah, he lost, his last one, he lost Leota Machida, Fador, Tito Ortiz. I mean, that was long before that though. Yeah, the Tito fight was
Starting point is 03:47:45 disappointing. I really wanted him to win that. I don't think much of Mazbittal, although. Don't you? You don't like him? I was, I didn't think it was cool that he assaulted Colby Covington on the street, you know?
Starting point is 03:48:00 it would be one thing if he was like if he was like yo put your dukes up you you want to talk shit let's fight let's do it right here Miami style but what he did was put on a disguise and attack Kobe from behind unawares and
Starting point is 03:48:15 that didn't seem more disguise yeah yeah that was remote the fight anymore that was why it wasn't about the fight they just thought that's like you know it's real the fight that's how you know it's real get back at him for getting his ass kicked in front of everyone, he's kicking Colby's
Starting point is 03:48:33 ass in private with a sucker punch. Oh, what a douchebag. They're that guy in jail. There was like a divide on how to feel about it, though, because some of the audience were watching it and thinking, yeah, Masvedal like beat up Colby in the street. But then when you really read further in the article, you find out Colby was at a steakhouse. The Nelk boys posted a story of them eating with Colby at a stakehouse after his big win. Hohe, Masvedal, who has kids on a school night, by the way, leaves in the middle of the night after his loss. He has a hood up, a mask on. And I think it's like a mask of like a someone else. So I heard something that it was like a mask of like a person. He's got a Conner McGregor mask on.
Starting point is 03:49:17 One of those pull down masks that makes you look like someone else in a way. He really plotted something out. And he waited for Kobe to leave and then jumped him and hit him a few times upside the head and ran off afterwards. So that's even worse. And then there was a tough guy. It's the hypocrisy. It's the real crime. It's the hypocrisy. It's not the assault. There was a bystand that said the most notable thing was how Covington didn't even get dropped. And that was the nailing the coffin for Masfordale because you would think, oh, at least he knocked out Colby Covington. But there was a bystand that said, you know, this guy ran up on him with a mask from behind and lit him up with massive shots.
Starting point is 03:49:58 And the thing that stood out to me was how the guy didn't even go down from the shots. So not only did he get a free sucker punch, but he didn't even badly drop him, but he did knock a tooth out because as Colby turned, he got hit with like a follow-up shot that like dented his tooth or something. I thought he went down though, because his watch got damaged. His watch got damaged from the scuffle, but he didn't get like dropped like a, like he didn't get slept or cast by a shot. He like drugged the watch along the wall.
Starting point is 03:50:24 Oh, that could be. like a fucking 15,000 Rolex or something all jacked up. Yeah, I didn't think that was very cool, but it was real, so I appreciated it, even though I didn't like it.
Starting point is 03:50:37 I like guys to have a schick. I like you to have a story. Like, even if it's like my kid's sick and I need to pay the bills, that's a good story. I can get behind that. Like,
Starting point is 03:50:46 just the plot to warrior. No man can stand between me and my child's medical bills, except for Cobra. Pfizer. He's a physics teacher and his daughter is sick, so he gets into MMA to pay for her medical bills. That's Warrior. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 03:51:03 I probably could have got the second counting job or something like that. I don't know. He tried to make money at MMA. He drives you, but the protagonist wins a lot of fights in that and earns some money for his daughter. I thought it was a bad look for Netflix that Homeboy that fought in Ghana only made 100K. like their whole thing was talking about how like we're going to pay fighters right and this that and the other and come on. Everyone on the card made less than they would have in the UFC.
Starting point is 03:51:32 For sure. Other than the newcomers, they did a good job at paying the newcomers a little bit more. Like they earn like 40K, 50K, whereas they would have earned like 15 for 15 in the UFC or 20 for 20. But like in Garnu would have made five times more in the UFC or four times more. And like Nate Diaz would have made a bit more. Perry would have. That seemed low for Nate.
Starting point is 03:51:52 I was talking to my girlfriend while we're watching this thing and I'm like that's Nate Diaz. He used to be a big fucking deal for some reason. I've never been able to understand. But I bet he's making $3 to $5 million here. So like good for him, I guess. He seems fun in real life. Like it seems like a real guy. And then they said he made 500K.
Starting point is 03:52:10 And it's like, are they doing some of that back room, Dana White, write you an extra a couple mill kind of shit? Like what's going on here? Not with that empty stadium. Yeah. It was empty. No one now. It was the record. They set the record for emptiest that stadium's ever been for any event.
Starting point is 03:52:27 You're not going to believe this, but before the event, they had to kick people out. Taylor, I know you don't watch a post-fight. There's a record for emptiest stadium? Yes. Yes. Yes, that was hilarious. After every UFC fight, Dana does, he starts the press conferences. He'll be like, tonight was a sellout show. It's the fifth time in a row we've sold out SunTrust Stadium. And we hold the number one, two, three, and four attendance marks of all time here. Thanks to the people at SunTrust State and we love the city here.
Starting point is 03:52:56 Paperview did blah, blah, and he'll like move on. It's always like that. It's never like, it didn't sell me tickets tonight. It's always sold out fucking show, new records being set. They set the record for least attendance ever. They were trying to give tickets out on the street like it was a fucking magic show on the strip.
Starting point is 03:53:12 Did you see? They also set attendance records. They did. But did you see, you mentioned how Dana reads out the the numbers of the gate and the audience and the crowd. Did you see after Bryce Mitchell had his run about Uncle A,
Starting point is 03:53:27 Uncle Adolf? Dana White came out and read the Holocaust numbers as if he was doing the gate review. Seven million Jews, 20 million overall, this and that and the battle of this. He actually went through like the death count
Starting point is 03:53:43 in World War II or whatever like it. Like he was reading the gate and the crowd. That's a record. The most in recent war history, he was actually like going off like that to start it off. It was such a crazy way to begin a fucking press. That's a lunatic thing to do. You should just
Starting point is 03:53:59 like why why would you first get himself from brace? Well I was saying like if you have a fighter who's saying banana's shit and then just don't have him fight again. No. But then why make his speech about what the guy was talking?
Starting point is 03:54:15 He's a huge free speech guy. He's like I don't control any of their speech. I've never fired someone for saying wacky things. He's like, I cannot like it. I don't like it. Now, we do have a disparagement clause, but he has fired someone to speech before though. Matt Riddle. I don't know if you remember that. Matt Riddle once said on it, he's a W.W.E. guy now. I think he's like a sort of background guy at the W.W.E. is the stoner guy. But he once said, uh, and I, I smoke marijuana so I don't beat my wife and kids. And Dana just cut him from the company completely
Starting point is 03:54:47 that's the guy that did the bikini bottoms. Oh yeah. I feel like Matt Riddle. Oh, yeah. Beat him. Matt Riddle was in the oxygen. Yeah. I think Riddle was involved.
Starting point is 03:55:01 Yeah, they got rid of him immediately as well. Mm-hmm. Yeah, if you don't have a story, I'm way less likely to watch you fight unless you're, I know you're an interesting fighter. Like, I also is fun with the crazy. Tony Ferguson being literally crazy. Yeah. Who's the other crazy guy who did that MTV show? Jason something
Starting point is 03:55:23 Oh Was the show name? Jason Miller Jason Maham Miller Oh that show Yeah What? That show wasn't real
Starting point is 03:55:31 The show wasn't real But he was actually a crazy person Yeah he was He did have a mental snap at one point There's a video of him on aerial Hawanie's table Like Like really like snapping bad Look
Starting point is 03:55:45 Yeah he had some reading stories about the police Having trouble getting the cuffs on Like every week for a while. Jason Mayhem Miller DMs me jokes to see if I'll love. I swear to God, he sends me like reels of himself. I don't think
Starting point is 03:56:01 he's posted and it's like this would be funny, right? Like he sent me messages like that before. Dude, this guy is cool. He's actually way chiller now and a lot more funny and because he was always a funny guy but he's just mental snap at one point. You know what he did right? So he was
Starting point is 03:56:19 a good fighter but he was never like one of the greats. He was a contender. But he always had like crazy hair, crazy things to say. He got attention on like, I want to say almost a Nate Diaz level, even though he was kind of an Nate Diaz level fighter. Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't the best. And his walkouts like in Japan were big. Like he used to walk out with like, like, well. Graph dance routines, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You'd be dancing like this in like a gimp costume on his way to the ring to fight some like, forced up Japanese guy
Starting point is 03:56:52 was he was there was some crazy characters about back in the day yeah so two questions do you think Connor is actually going to show up on and fight and if so like can he pull this off can he beat Max Holloway because I have bet
Starting point is 03:57:09 that he will but I don't believe that well it was good to bet now because the line is going to close I bet with Woody I don't bet more than five dollars so he'll be This is more about bragging rights. Okay.
Starting point is 03:57:24 Well, first question, if he will return. I think he will because I don't think he's taken this for money. I don't think he's taking this for glory. There is going to be a part of that and that will drive him in training camp. I think he's taken this because he has two fights left on his UFC contract. And they are notoriously, if you're pardon the pun, very difficult to get out of. So I think he's been kind of wanting to get out of it so he can have these. massive exhibition matches with like pachial there was always these sort of things that were
Starting point is 03:57:55 going to happen that never did because the ufc kind of got in the way um so i think he actually wants to fight out his last two fights and be gone of the ufc contract so he can make some some real money on his own accord with some exhibitions the ufc's ruthless that way like yeah they'll be a guy 36 years old uh still a big draw maybe not champ anymore and then they'll negotiate like an 11-fight contract. Yeah, John Jones is a lifetime contract. Oh, I wonder how many he has left. And Garnu called out John Jones after the Netflix
Starting point is 03:58:28 MMA win and I'm sitting here as all the casuals are probably going, yeah. And I'm sitting here thinking, you still got seven fights left, buddy. You got seven fights left on your contract. You signed a fucking 10-fight deal. Someone would have to buy his contract out. What do you think Dana White sells a seven-fight John Jones contract for? Oh, I mean. Quarter billion dollars?
Starting point is 03:58:49 Yeah, it would be in. those, it would be about 250 mil, maybe 300. I think that might be pushing it a little light because he's not just, John doesn't fight. Yeah, but it wouldn't be, it's about letting John represent heavyweight MMA outside of the UFC. That's where UFC has MMA and a chokehold is that there's no other heavyweights outside of the UFC, really. There are some, but if John left and they did Anganu versus Jones, they could say they have
Starting point is 03:59:16 the best heavyweight on the planet and poor a shit ton of money into them. He turned down 30 million against Aspinall, right? He did. And that was a mistake. He could have beaten some. I didn't think it at the time, but now that I saw Gagne against Aspinall, it's like, I always do his name. I'm gone, I think. I don't think I've got a name right all night.
Starting point is 03:59:38 So, yeah. But yeah, now that that fight happened, it's like, ooh, Aspinall doesn't seem like this first round knockout artist like he once did. that's crazy to say because he's been that dominant because he went four and a half minutes, all of a sudden it's like, this guy's not scary. He had such a higher standard, right? Yeah,
Starting point is 04:00:01 I mean, yeah, yeah, clearly. If I let Gond go poke him in the eyes a few times, I kind of like, well, I still don't like my chances, but I like him better than before. He scratched his fucking eyes out. I was so mad about that. And then he gets rewarded with the White House card, of course. And then he makes those statements to the media
Starting point is 04:00:20 the other day. But fuck that guy. I really praying for Perea to knock him out and like highlight fashion and shoot his make-believe bow at him. Yeah, risky, though, for Pereira, very risky. But to answer if McGregor will beat Holloway, no, no, I don't think he will. Because he's, Holloway, he's still got it on the feet. I think there's like an avenue for lightweights to grapple against him and they will. Like, I don't think Holloway would beat an Armand-Saurucan. You know, I don't think Holloway is ever going to be a champion again. But with McGregor, he's been out for five years. And I think when you take that amount of time away from the game and you come back and you get calf kicked,
Starting point is 04:00:59 or you get your lead leg stomps, or you get a body kick around your forearms. They are going to box, but Holloway is going to kick a lot. He has been adding a lot of them into his game. If there was a bet for that, if there was like an amount of kicks thrown by Holloway, I would take the under on it. I think he's going to stand and box with Connor and have a straight up boxing match. Isn't that Conner's 4-D? Yeah, he used to be a fucking...
Starting point is 04:01:24 I mean, he used to throw a lot of kicks. It was. Sort of stabbing sidekicks and stuff like that, but more of a boxing thing since he did the Mayweather fight, which ruined his UFC career. Yeah, my prediction for the Holloway-McGrega fight is that McGregor will start the first round and actually be, oh my God, he's back. Like, he's actually stinging Holloway with big shots. But Holloway will hold up and then come round two, three, four.
Starting point is 04:01:46 It will just be sort of a downward, downward, downward, viral for McGregor in my opinion. If he doesn't put him away by the fifth though, there's going to be the moment where they point at the ground and they're both going to stand and trade. And McGregor's got the power. But he'll be in round five with seconds to go, no. It'll be exhausted compared to Max if they make it five, in my opinion, especially after all this time off. That's a really good point. The put on size, but it's a 170 and McGreg has been on the source and he will have about 10 pounds on Holloway. So he's going to be hit with a different kind of steam. Yeah, he will be.
Starting point is 04:02:18 a lot heavier. Holloway hasn't had time to bulk to 170. This has been sprung on him with eight weeks. He's a big guy, though. He's always, he was always, like, like, remember when he couldn't cut weight to make the Khabi fight, and he was at 145 back then? He couldn't, he couldn't cut the 155 in time,
Starting point is 04:02:35 and he was the 45-champ. My thing is, I think he'll be in 155 shape, but just not cut weight and weigh in at 170, whereas McGregor will trim down to 170s, he's probably in his early 180s right now at this point. I think he'll have a bit of size on him. So there is, it is a close to fight and people think anything can happen. And I will say this, the UFC gets what they need.
Starting point is 04:02:57 Very important thing about being the UFC fan. When you feel like all hope is lost and they need something to happen in order to reinvent and bring life back to the sport, it does happen. McGregor knocking out Aldo in however many seconds. Then you get the, this fight happening at heavyweight or the Jones coming back. fist, kick to the body. Like, they do get what they need. Reyes doesn't beat Jones.
Starting point is 04:03:22 They raise Jones's hand. Like, things work out in a way to benefit them. Just when things were getting stale, Strictland gets the win. I'm not saying things are rigged, but UFC has a weird way of working itself out to where the crazy does often happen in a weird way. Yeah. I want to see. I'm psyched for this White House card.
Starting point is 04:03:42 Like, like, as we get closer to it, I'm like, this is a pretty fucking good card. It was oversold. but this is pretty fucking good. I'm excited for this. And more than the fights, which are really good. Sean O'Malley's like the third fight of the night. I love him.
Starting point is 04:03:56 My podcast co-host, it's at the White House. It's at the White House. It's going to be, I really hope there's a lot of unique stuff about the way this is presented and what we see on our screens. So in the same way that when they did the thing at the sphere,
Starting point is 04:04:10 which I love. Like, I hope that Trump is involved a lot. I said the other day, I want him up there like, comidus, fucking, Finish him Getting crazy when there's blood Up there on top
Starting point is 04:04:24 Just losing his mind That'd be good I heard that their walkout Will begin in the Oval Office I don't know if that's I heard that like last year though So who knows I want to see the
Starting point is 04:04:35 How long of a walk is that I don't know where exactly Where the ring is I don't and I don't know Layout of the White House either It's on the lawn If it rains the whole thing is messed up But they're going to continue apparently
Starting point is 04:04:45 If they're going to be so happy. I just really like events to be special and different. And rain or like I have this dream of like high winds with dead leaves in the spring for some reason. You know, just like going across the octagon. Yeah, that would be amazing. White dubs fly through the middle of the frame as they face off in slow motion. That would be a crazy atmosphere though, a little lightning strike in the background with rainfall. and right wouldn't it see the fighters up there and like keep going yeah i want that i want the like marines
Starting point is 04:05:22 to be there with their rifles to start the rounds instead of the clapper i mean pretend they they shoot the loser if the corner is like every time lightning strikes he looks that way take it yeah he's terrified of lightning we got him right what we wanted yeah i'm psyched for that part of it i want to see i'm looking i want to see who's in attendance like i'm interested in all that there's going to be important people. I'm wanting to see if they allow Octagon interviews because Josh Hockett is in a position to have a poem of all poems
Starting point is 04:05:53 rhyming with Epstein, maybe this files, like I don't know what he's going to say. So many things rhyme with Epstein. Yes. Which should I begin? He's going to have a whole thing. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 04:06:09 Secret service tackles him. He's winning. Yeah. Chang Gillis' sister piles on top. I'd love it. I hope there's some nonsense. I hope that... Sching Gillis' sister.
Starting point is 04:06:22 You remember her. SGA's sister. Yeah. I hope that it's a nonsense. I think it's going to be the biggest MMA night of all time. I think there's so many casuals are going to tune in. I think it's going to receive global attention. I think it's going to be the biggest MMA night of all time.
Starting point is 04:06:38 It's going to bring a flush, a big wave of casuals into the sport. It'll delineate down into all the little. beaches and crannies of like your videos will get like five percent more views like the in the weeks to come you know what I mean yeah this is a this is a tide where all boats are going to rise it's a good chance to grow the game yeah it is it is it won't be as big as McGregor Habib but I think the aftermath of it there's just going to be so much to talk about but uh for a standard UFC card or for a every monthly UFC card this is probably going to be the biggest is Because McGregor has like the biggest one.
Starting point is 04:07:12 Brock Lesnar had a really big one too, right? Yeah, he had a few million dollar ones, but McGregor had, McGregor, I think, has seven of the top eight paper views in UFC history or something like that. Yeah, but we're off that model. If we're talking about just eyes on the sport, especially like the live coverage, this will be it. The Netflix thing got like over 10 million at one point, like 10 or 15 million. This is going to be well over that on Paramount for free globally.
Starting point is 04:07:38 This is going to be 20, 25 million people. McGregor was nowhere near that. I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix had tech issues. Paramount. Yeah. Oh, Paramount hasn't had tech issues yet, have they? Netflix does all the time when they do live stuff.
Starting point is 04:07:55 They have had some fumbles, but it's like immediately fixed, which is good. Yeah. And like it seemed like you could switch over to, if I remember correctly, there's a commentary version like you normally get, and then there's a no commentary version. Or there's definitely like a Spanish version. I went to one of the others or the Portuguese version. and Bose will stream okay.
Starting point is 04:08:14 As long as I'm seeing the fight, I don't care about the commentary most of the time anyway. Yeah, good stuff. All right, then. Yeah. That felt like it. I felt like the moment. All right,
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