Painkiller Already - PKA 806 W/ Oompaville: Taylor's Trauma Dump Princess

Episode Date: May 30, 2026

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P.k.a. 806. Guest running late so we started. Hopefully he makes it. Taylor. This episode of PKK is brought to you by lock and load, our merch, and of course, Club WPT Gold. Now, Kyle, you were mentioning the backrooms movie that comes out tomorrow that you're excited about. And I had watched like one or two of the YouTube backrooms videos that guy made. and in the last week I've watched his whole lore of it. I didn't realize there were hours and hours and hours. I went from completely disinterested in this movie to being like, this is one I'm going to go see.

I'm going to go see this movie. Have you guys watched the YouTube series? I think I've maybe seen the 4chan post and that's it. Something about backrooms being spooky places to dimensions. Yeah, the original 4chan post, which is hilarious that all of this just came from a shit post on Fortune, like seven years. As much of internet culture does, turns out, or it did rather. Now, all those guys seem to have migrated to Twitter. But the backrooms series was this dude, like, used Blender and like Adobe After Effects, 16 year old kid when he started

or maybe 17, older now, obviously, because it's been around for a few years. It's incredible. like he he doesn't rely on jump scares like if anything the jump scares are like they're the kind that make you feel silly because it's not intended it's like all found footage style stuff and he's built a world around it or basically the back rooms are these Zach me know a picture of it it's like this liminal space like you know a kind of fizzy fluorescent lighting overhead yellow often and it's just an endless series of of rooms that are nonsensical. And if you, as the 4chan post said, sometimes if you're not careful, you clip out of reality and end up in the back rooms. And, you know, it's usually someone doing something a little weird and then they clip out and they end up here. And so much of it is like tension building, suspense building. It's rare that it's like a chase scene with a monster or anything. It's usually just implied. And I love it. I think. think it's that's like the one time you see a spooky monster in the first video and I'm

I'm looking forward to it I really am and I know you are as well yeah you know the you know the director is the same guy the director of this movie is the same guy who made the the YouTube videos he's 20 years old and he's directed this massive movie I'm glad he's in charge yeah because yeah he's doing a really good job building the lore building the world around it he even has videos like from the perspective of the government researchers from like the department of energy trying to harness it as infinite space in some way shape or form and uh really enticing it's better than any horror i've seen in the last couple years i hope Hollywood doesn't wreck it but if he's in charge i doubt he'd allow it this is a barely Hollywood this is 824 you know they do a lot of

boutique type films and particularly horror and interesting pieces. And to let the 20-year-old creator directed is wild. I didn't know that until just now. That's awesome. Yeah. We'll get your help. It's, what's his channel? I want to shout his channel out in case people haven't.

It's, uh, Kane Pixels. Kane Parsons. Kane Pixels is the name of his channel. Yeah. Kane Parsons is the directors. And he's the only director on it. bunch of producers and such.

Okay. I've played a couple of the games. It's exactly what Zach showed there in that screenshot, just wandering around through endless spaces. And it reminds me a little bit of SCP Foundation, which is also an internet created sort of, not crowdfunded, but sort of crowd produced or crowd creative,

like alternate reality. I watch it. I'm not super psyched about it or anything. It looks okay. It's a struggle for me because Taylor's very excited about it. He's hyped. He's cool. But like it sounds like the dullest thing ever. How do they make empty office space interesting?

It's just carpets that need replacing and lights that are too old. He discovers another dimension, a spooky dimension. He walks through a wall like like through the fucking wardrobe in Narnia. and suddenly there's a weird world back there and he starts exploring it. And then of course he gets lost. Like he's going to be lost back there and not be able to get back out. I'm into that. Well, it's found footage style.

And so it's like that kind of and all of them are set in like 1990. And so it's that style of found footage, which I'm sure for him making it on Blender and Adobe After Effects, that's easier to do, you know, not crisp, not HD. but like I I embarrassingly like watching them like got a couple jump scares not like a but like you know when you get jump scared but you don't physically like move you just feel like that that kind of surge in your in your your torso like your heart rate increasing like I got he he was doing such a good job in one of the videos he jumped scared me with a guy turning and it was a poster of

Arnold. But he built suspense so well, and that's what I want in horror. I don't want, you know, monsters on screen too much. Like, I want them to build it, so it's almost earned when you see the bad guy. I'm interested. Maybe I'll check out his videos first. I'm also excited, apparently there's a good 20-year-old director. Do we have like 50 years of good movies to come? Will he be the Clint Eastwood? movies as long. Cool. I mean, he's clearly creative.

Like, seeing that one throwaway post from some random dude who's never claimed credit on 4chan and being like, I can create a whole world of this. And doing a good job to where in the later videos, like the characters who are investigating it in like their big,

you know, government hazmat suits start to have names and, you know, speak to each other and their own little bits of character development. So he doesn't claim to have made the post. But he says he was inspired by it. Definitely. Yeah, he's definitely inspired by it because no one, because the backrooms wasn't a thing until some guy in like, you know, 2019 on 4chan posted it. I wonder if he'd have like liability if he claimed he was inspired by it straight up. I don't know. There'd be no way

to prove who posted that on 4chan. Like anyone could come forward and say, I posted the backroom stuff and they'd be like, prove it. And it's like, well, it's a disappearing site. by nature. Right. It doesn't archive old posts. If someone had the original photo, that'd be something. I don't know if it proves that it was him. And even at the time, the guy posted that and then it was like, that's kind of funny.

Maybe I'll spook someone. Anyway, back to watching anime or whatever. Like, there's no way he's like click, taking a picture of his screen with the, I don't even think you can delete posts. So I don't know what you would. I've never posted on 4chan. So I don't even know what would show up to show you had posted it. No idea.

yeah i i uh i like horror movies i watch a bunch of horror i've got all the horror movie channels i uh it's hard to find good horror movies though like most of them are garbage most of them are garbage um and it's the entry point for a lot of filmmakers because it has the best um sort of risk to return rate historically some of the biggest movies that made the most money are horror films in i mean Halloween was an indie film when it when it came out. So like a lot of people dip their toes in that way and then there's a lot of exploitation there too where it's like oh dude just make a vampire movie. Vampires. Nobody owns vampires. I just watched a vampire movie with Justin Long called

Night Patrol. I saw someone describe it as the Timu version of sinners. It's so awful. It's about the LAPD Night Patrol are all vampires and they pray they're preying upon the black gangs.

and the black gangs are using African magic against them and like the head gang leader is like reading about demons from African mythology and talking about how they're like pink skin devils and it's this whole like it's this whole end of the white people are like storming the black neighborhood

with their like metal vampire teeth like just murdering black people and dragging them out and pumping their blood out and stuff and at the end the last guy left he's like a Zulu descent and he's got like a green power ring and a Zulu spear with a glowing spearhead.

It's like, dude, you should have brought that out. Where is this in America? Like there's just a designated guy in the Crips who has that? His mom actually. Like there's a there's like a black lady who's like the leader of a gang

and she has this secret. She's always passing out these like African witchcraft like pamphlets to everybody and everybody thinks is bullshit. But when the vampires come. She's like, read your pamphlet. And they're like, oh, fuck. I am.

It sounds terrible. I'm about to die of stupidity. This is a problem. You don't even know. It's so bad. It's so, so bad. I watched the whole thing. I hate every minute of it. Why didn't you watch the whole thing? Dude, if a movie sucks in the first 20 minutes and I can tell it's not going to build

anything, it's like done. It actually had me hooked for a while. Like the, like, like early on, before you see what the action is going to be, when you're just kind of getting the premise of like, oh, there's some dirty cops. That's all you know at first. Oh, these are dirty cops. And then you're like, wait, they're vampires too.

And then it just goes to shit. It's like not only the vampires, but it's like a cult of white vampires. And they're all like getting hyped up in some factory somewhere. There's our streets, our streets. And they're like pounding their shit. And they're all like big muscled up white dudes would cut off sleeves.

And then, you know, they storm the African, the black neighborhood. and the people like, what are you doing in my house? And they're just like murder of him all and like take their blood. It's wild. It's awful.

A little ham-handed social commentary. Like I said, Timo Siener's. Sinners is a much better version of this. Like a thousand times better. And then I watched a movie called Kill List. It was a horror movie about a hitman. That's all I knew. Oh my God.

It's so crazy violent. He starts beating this guy to death with a hammer who's a pedophile. And it's like, dude, how bad of a pedophile? thought, was he? Let's go easy on him. This is wrong. He might have been one of those romantic pedophiles. Did he eat the children? You just smushed his hand into bits.

And now you're naked his kneecap off. And like the first three quarters of the movie at least are just sort of about the monotonous life of a British hitman who wants to retire but keeps getting pulled back in. His wife is like, we need more money. You haven't worked in eight months. You just sit out there in your hotel. And he's just like, ooh, I've got me. PTSD from the war. I don't care. And just sitting in back to, and you're like,

all right, well, this could be like, she knows he's a hitman. Oh, yeah. Like, like,

she's like, get up, get back out there and get to kill him. Get out there and get to kill him. Get out there and get to kill him. We need some cash. Yeah.

And so at the end, though, things completely go wacky. And it's, there's like a cult. There's like a big British upper society cult. And they're, uh,

they're, they're like grooming this hitman to be the new leader of the cult. And things go fucking crazy. There's naked people in the field, like doing ritual sacrifice. And it's, it was okay. I liked it. It was okay. She was on his ass to go kill another person so they could afford air conditioning.

Yeah. Apparently prohibitive for our friends. That's a luxury there. That's like, that's like caviar to them. Yeah, I don't know what the deal is. They should just get a fucking in window unit. You've been teasing your boys take for a week now. what is

why it was awful that was a terrible it was a bad last season and it was a terrible finale and they lied to us forever Zach if you'll post some of these images I've got here so like if you look at the promotional

this is the promo image for the finale if you pull up this PowerPoint you should have made a PowerPoint and then these two images here these are these are the preview images for the season so they sold us on this idea that Homelander was finally going to snap.

And if you go back to, I don't know, right around season three, there's a moment where Homelander is having a private moment with Starlight. And he's like, do you know what I'll, the mask comes off. You know what I fucking do? I take out the nerve centers.

I take out the Air Force wings. I take out the White House, the Supreme Court, and all of Congress. And I have control of this little country within 45 minutes. There's not a damn thing you can do or anyone on the planet.

And you're like, oh my God, he doesn't do any of that. that. Eric Kripke got so upset. I mean, take him out. He already made him his lap dog, essentially. If Eric Kripke got so upset, he got so obsessed. He's the creator of the show, the showrunner. He got so obsessed with Donald Trump and hating Donald Trump that he had to make Homelander an allegory for Trump in every way conceivable and make him completely pathetic and irredeemable, which is not where his character was headed from the early season.

If anything, we were getting sort of a like, well, he's awful, but you can kind of see why he's awful. Like, he was never incredibly pathetic. They also nerfed him. If you got, we didn't need the last two seasons. If you go back to hero-gasm, when butcher is souped up on temp V, Huey is souped up on temp V, and I think there's a, oh, um, Louis, Soldier Boy is, is there. So you've got three powerful soups fighting homelander. He beats them all off, so to speak, and he escapes. And the big problem was, in that episode, you see Soldier Boy uses chest blast that takes superheroes powers away. When he does it, it turns the two soups he hits into like dust. It vaporizes the whole house. When he does it the other time, it blows up the

building where Queen Mave was and she's just dead. Now all of a sudden, it's like a, I don't know, like a UV light that we can just kind of shine wherever we want the room's fine the people holding on to the bad guy are fine so everything from the the reason we didn't use the people holding them lost their powers too right his son lost the power yeah but they were destroyed like like previously it's a nuclear bomb now it's a light that makes you weak like like if you go back every other time my crazy queen may've survived it she's dead i don't think so no oh yes No, she's a normal person living in a lesbian life. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, she's gay and she just went under the radar.

The room always explodes and the superheroes that he's used it on were vaporized. There was like a boy and a girl, they were like twins who were at Hero Gasm. It was their house. He hits them with it and they're vaporized. The whole reason that they didn't use the power on him at Hero Gasm was because they didn't want to kill, you know, the innocent bystanders. and they let him go. In the finale episode, there's a part where Homelander flies to space and back in like seven frames or something like that.

But then when it comes time to fight, the superhero team, which somehow infiltrates the White House, like on a win, they infiltrate the White House. Oh, they use the tunnel. Well, why is no one manning the tunnel?

We've seen how much secret service Trump has. Like Shane Gillis' sister was nowhere to be seen. They had one Indiana Jones hallway with machine guns in the ceiling, and then you're in the Oval Office and no one will bother you except for like the black religious man there was no army of superheroes defending Homeland or joining him

hovering in the sky he didn't go to space and blow anything up he died and is in the Oval Office for some reason like he doesn't care about the Oval Office why is he in the Oval Office why is he on top of Vought Tower or something like tearing the city apart that lends to your like weird

director fantasy like revenge violence fantasy about Trump. I've seen people in line working at the end was clearly him like nonsense. They have to they had to like downgrade Homelander's power for the finale

to even work. Yeah. At the very end, Homelanders' dad has the power to take people's powers away. That's like one of his big things. He's also strong and whatever. They're able to sort of replicate that and make someone else have that

power and that's how they neutralized homelander. So once he was stripped of his powers, he became this pathetic guy. He offered Butcher is the name of like the main anti-Homelander. The guy who's been trying to get him all this, them. He offered to suck Butcher's

dick. And when Butcher wasn't interested in that, he offered to eat his shit. And it just, he looks super duper pathetic until they killed him instead. And I like to see it. Some of the Trump stuff was obviously intentional. Some of it wasn't.

There's a whole storyline where Homelander made himself into a God. He, like, was taking down any church who didn't adopt Homelander as actual God. And the showrunners are like, we had no way of knowing when we wrote and filmed this, that Trump was going to post AI versions of himself as God. That was something we didn't see coming. And it just worked out that way. It wasn't planned. The whole fight at the end made no sense.

Like, in like, three episodes prior prior, the he had cut Kimiko in half with a glance. He literally went and he cut her in half and completely like takes her out of the fight. Couldn't do that all of a sudden. He just threw her. He was fighting with like butcher seemed to that last fight before Homelander gets depowered. And by the way he's on V1 now.

So this is Uber Homelander. He's supposed to be more powerful now in this final scene. He's so bad at fighting in this last scene that it's like man, I think if you just add another superhero or two. Like a cut, get that bomb site guy back and Oh, that's the part of where to mention. So they tricked us into watching two whole seasons of Gen V. Five whole seasons.

Yeah. Oh, no, no. This is a different show. The spinoff show. They watched it. Is that the period of blood one? Yes. So they got us with the promise that this was going to be integrated in.

And you kind of needed to watch it if you were going to fully understand when these characters pop up in the boys' final season. They pop up twice, maybe three times. And in every instance, Starlight, who only won one singular fight this season and maybe not won for a couple seasons prior. She won one fight this year. She beat the most pathetic superior in the whole show, the one who, like, mouth raped her in season one. Goody Gumdrop. She didn't even mention the mouth rape.

She didn't even make a pun about suck on this. Suck on this. And, like, punch him or whatever. None of that happened. She keeps telling Marie Moreau, who we've been told is, like, on Homelanders level of power. one of the very few in existence. She's period blood black girl. She's a lot more than that.

She's like, you got to go, you can't be here. You got to go away. You got to go to Canada and try to save as many people as you can. Oh, don't go near this fight. This isn't the fight for you. Meanwhile, she's the one who hasn't want to fight in years that even mattered. Marie is in the whole thing for like three scenes, maybe 30, 40 seconds. Her bulimic friend who turns into a giant is there for like,

less than 10 seconds and her trans friend is only there for like maybe 15 seconds. Those three added the final fight and they don't need the depower home later. They can just beat him to death. By the way, keeping the Marie Moreau completely out of the action the whole season allows them to kill off characters left and right because she can literally resurrect people. She's literally a resurrection magic person. You could keep her in the van outside. She can control blood and bodies at like a molecular level and literally reanel.

to make dead people. She can control people like puppets. To say that she's the period blood girl, it's just an insult. But she is, she takes blood and uses it like a weapon or just as complete control over her blood and other people's. Yeah. Incredibly powerful. She, she, she, you would imagine that she could just blow up Homelander's head as long as you like keep him from melting her instantly or whatever. So it was just a farce. The whole season, the whole thing was wasted. that show's canceled. So it's not like there's another season of that show coming where they're going to do more stuff.

No. And to make things worse, they spent vital episodes and scenes of this season on Soldier Boy. They froze Soldier Boy an episode and a half ago and said, he's done. He won't be in any more of this season.

You know what he will be in? The next spinoff prequel show. And Cripke is like, when you watch the spinoff prequel show, you'll understand more about Homelander. I'm like, the dead guy? The dead guy that turned out to be a big fart in the wind? Homelander was built up as so many things.

Like his level of cruelty and evil was something to behold. It kept you scared when he's there. Did he kill any of the other heroes ever? Like, if he was enemies. So who, if he was so evil. Did he say he was a really guy? French, he ain't French. Oh, oh.

But he also killed Firecracker. She's not a boy, though. He said other superheroes. I don't know the terminology, but like the people that were coming after him. Why didn't he, like, what's the kind of plot armor for all of them in the previous five seasons that he didn't just fuck him up? He lets them get away constantly. They were in, after the whale explosion, they're all in some tunnels. And Homelander, who's fast enough to catch A-Train and break his neck with one hand, can't catch Huey in Tummel.

They're in tunnels. He can see through walls. He can hear like, like, you know, Superman. He's a human lie detector machines. That's not the first time that he was escaped. Hewian, who he gets away on foot from Homeland or who is essentially a god at least three times. I remember he crawled through some vents and got away and they're like, the vents are made of zinc. Dude, I would fly into those just like a slinky. Like, like I'd find you. They didn't write him super well. I'm agreeing with some of this. Like a homelander at times was so powerful. I don't know how you beat this guy.

Right? Like he's a speedster. Right there. What do you do with a speedster? A speedster can't be hit. He can always get out of trouble. He can always get into and out of trouble. He can find anyone he wants. He should be able to find someone hiding in a closet in a city in no time at all because he goes like super duper extra fast. And he does have to scan and look and perceive and like take that information in. He can just pop his head. into every closet, I guess. I don't know. He's a speedster. They're hard to write for. It's like the only

way to beat a speedster is for the writers to temporarily diminish their speed power. Yeah. The reason that he didn't fuck up his enemies, his fellow boys or whoever trying to subvert him, was because he didn't feel like it for like five years. Well, there was this thing about his character where if the other people weren't scared, he never killed him. And that was pretty consistent. through the whole show. If they stood up to him and just held their chin high, he would let them live almost every time. There were multiple instances of it making sense for him not to kill the opponent that he's got in the room with him. Because it's like these people are pathetic to them. Most of them he can't remember their names. You know, he doesn't think of these people as his arch enemies. They think he's their arch enemy.

They're his minor annoyance that he's like, what are you, Stewie, Louis? it's Huey. It's Hugh. Oh, right. Like, he doesn't care. And, and there was a long time where Starlight was sort of blackmailing him. It's like, oh, I don't kill Stewie or Starlight'll fuck you up and she'll show this information on you. So there are other scenes where he just couldn't catch them. Like, like, they just, they just end the scene. And it's like, well, wait a minute. Like, I wouldn't want to be in the same zip code as Homeland or if he's looking for me. Like, like, he can fly and see through every material but zinc. They found translucent's translucent body at the bottom of the Hudson River in a zinc box. Like, they'll find you. But you know what I mean? You can only not see through zinc? Yeah, they make that the one thing. Superman can't see through lead.

Homelander can't see through zinc. Okay. And they had zinc covered air ducts? Air ducts are zinc covered. I think it's what you use when you galvanize metal. You add zinc to it. Well, I didn't. I'd learn something new. Learn something useful from this

discussion. It was really upsetting. I think it was a show with so much potential. There were times when I was just like annoyed with the gross out stuff. It's like, all right, I got it. And some of the dialogue is so like, what did he call? So

Soldier Boy is basically a guy from the 50s who's been frozen and woken up. He's Captain America. But remember Captain America woke up and he was like, cool with the black boss immediately. You know what I mean? Like, this guy's from the 50s, right? 40s. He's guys from the 40s. And he's immediately

okay with Sam Jackson being his boss. Okay, I'll believe it. Let's move the show. I don't think that's how it happened. Soldier boy wakes up and he's like, hop to it, Tuts. Get in there and suck my man, dick. Like he called Huey a cum-guzzling butt pirate or something like that. That's not a very 1940s insult.

No, well, he catches up at the times. He's very homophobic. He's always making like remarks about race and stuff. like that. Oh, that's another thing. Somehow they had an episode to reunite Jensen Ackles and Jared Paddlecki from Supernatural, the two brothers. They're like, yeah, let's get Jared Paddlecky in for an episode.

We'll do a whole spinoff thing where Homelander and Soldier Boy do a father's son look for superpowers kind of, and it's like, man, you've got so few episodes here. Why are you focusing on these new throwaway characters? Like, Padillakey's immediately killed. Padalecki gets like an episode where he's alive. and then he gets his face stomped in and he's out of the show forever, obviously. His face exploded.

Why are you doing that to us? Why don't you develop his character more? Like, when Homelander was talking to himself in the mirror and a different version was talking back a couple years ago, I was like, oh, oh, this is scary. This is a problem. Like, he was evil before, but now he's actually, like, insane. Like, he can't be held responsible for his own actions at this point.

He's putting the evil doctors and others to make it on trial. he really wasn't like by the end he's hallucinating and he's seeing like big titted angels telling him he's the chosen one he's not crazy for thinking he's God he is seeing a literal angel come to him and tell him

he is the only thing I know about this show and I know so little but a bunch of clips were floating around because people were angry about the finale and the what's like the deep the Aquaman of this show

I saw the clip of him like sitting on a pier on Twitter and I guess he had done something to upset all the sharks and the fish and everything. And the dialogue was so over the top, cringy and bad that I couldn't believe. Part of me was like someone AIed this to make it work because it's like a poorly rendered hammerhead being like, on God, c, you know, no cap. You ain't cool with us, no-mo. And I was like, this is, this is, this is humiliating. Like, this is, someone in the writer's room was, was having to, having a laugh. Being like, I was wonder if I can sneak this one past the plot line was, they were doing like an underground oil pipeline or something. And the deep endorsed it.

And then I think the deep's podcast friend, Black Noir, busted it in an effort to make deep look bad. So now all the fish of the sea blamed the deep for this. Is he not like Aquaman that he just controls them? No, he's friends with them and he can talk to them and they're all kind of, they instantly align with what his needs and wants are until he lost their favor. And I think that's how he dies in the end.

He gets in the water, right? A squid sticks its tentacle up his ass and out his mouth. I saw that absurd. I saw him swimming too. Woody could go faster. He didn't swim nearly. I thought the same. I thought he must have been able to fucking zoot

through the water. There's a scene after the hammerhead threatens him, someone starts drowning. And like, it's at like, I think of Saltwater Beach, I'm not even positive. Because there were no waves that look like a lake. And I think with a shark in it, I don't know what the

fuck they're doing in this scene. But anyway, guy starts drowning and they're like, the deep is here. Oh, thank God. The deep is here. And he just slowly walks backwards. Yeah, it's great. Because he's afraid to go in the water because the shark threatened him. Yeah, they don't want it anymore. Is he not powerful enough to fuck up a shark?

That was my thought, but apparently not. Or maybe he felt like there would be too many. That stinks. Yeah, he's terrible. This is superhero writing is tricky. Kyle brought out these inconsistency. Power scale. I didn't. Why didn't Homeland or just laser eye? Why didn't this happen? I could say that about almost every superhero show I've ever seen. Like, people just forget their speedsters. People just forget about laser eyes. You know, It goes on and on. It happens into all of them. Wasn't Homelanders big thing pride? No, his need to be loved and praised.

Yeah. Okay. He's, um, he grew up, he grew up basically being abused constantly and treated like a lab experiment. And so they would use like the reward of love and attention to reward him and sort of control him. And so he's forever thirsting and hungering for complete and total love and approval. And anything that counters that is an offense to him. He also doesn't have time for anybody's bullshit. He hates everyone. He doesn't want to be part of the seven,

which is like their Justice League. He's like, you just need me. Which is true. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. I mean, I like the first of it.

Superman and a bunch of, you know, Superman Wonder Woman, the Green Lantern, the Flash, Martian Manhunter, Hawk Girl. Martian Manhunter.

You made that one out. Cyborg. The Wonder Twins. Oh, that's, that's spicking Span. No, I'm right. The Wonder Twins are right. You're right. It's something different.

More or less, that that's the main members of the Justice League. You don't know Martian Man Hunter? No, I don't know much about superheroes. He's a shape-shifting, Martian. He, his only weakness is his fire. I don't remember him having a big role in the cartoons. It's a bad thing. Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, and Batman all the time.

And then the Wonder Twins like fouling things up on the side. Cyborgs in there a lot these days. You know, you get that black guy in there. Nowadays, yeah. Is cyborx black? I thought he was like just chrome. No, he's definitely. Cyborgs half human.

He's like the important part of a human. He's sort of like Robocop, except the technology that's made him into a robo man is like alien, like crazy nanotechnology. that just constantly learns and makes him better. He can sort of like make like a energy weapon out of his arm real quick and blast. I'm thinking. I'm thinking of who's the X-Man who is like a who turns into a chrome guy. Oh, Colossus or something?

That's what I was thinking of. Yeah, the Russian guy. Yeah. No, that's a cool superhero. When you give them too many powers, you end up with power scaling issues that are frustrating for readers. At least in X-Men, what they always do with the Speedster is they're like, oh yeah, he couldn't make it

today. He's busy doing this other thing. No, or... He's busy doing this other thing. Who is the super bad guy who caught the Speedster's foot while he was running? Apocalypse. Apocalypse. Apocalypse had

never demonstrated any kind of super speed before or after, but he managed to make the ground grab a Speedster's foot while he was at full speed and then kill him. There's that moment where it's like,

eyes start like moving and he's like keeping up with him. He's like adapting to the speed. He's like catching up or whatever. It's like, I like the X-Men movies, man. I really do. I think there's a bunch of them and there's a bunch of prequels, you know, where they go back and do the James McAvoy version of Professor

X. I like all that shit. No, man. I get the she likes it and that's cool, but you could tear apart the X-Men movies probably just as well as you did the boys. And I think the speed losing like that is a good example. I disagree. Pocklitz is not a speedster.

He can't keep up with them. He can't even see a move. He never did it before and he never did it after. But this one time he pulled speedster out of his ass to grab a guy. It seems like Paul's complaint is like that Homelanders character changed rapidly

to comport to like some grievance the director has. Not that the powers don't mind. What it is is like Homeland is, is like, Homelder's the bad guy. I don't root for Homelander. I've been looking forward to Homeland.

So the motivations for our characters, Butcher, A. Emer, wants to kill Homelander because Homelander raped his wife. Like, that's his motivation. That's motivation right there. His wife. It's all he's cared about for the entire show. Like, there are these great scenes

where he's just, like, they're at a big event, and everybody's focused on the event. It's a race, and Homelander's up there, standing there proud and like with his big with his uniform and everything arms crossed looking over overseeing everything and there's only one face and the whole crowd that's not focused on the race and it's Billy Butcher and he's just staring at Homelander with this look that's like half hate and half bemusement it's it's sort of it's sort of a like you're gonna see mate I'm gonna bullocks you're good like you can tell like he's in Australia he's English literally

cockney and he's always talking about bollocksing and what are his powers I don't think Homeland or rape the wife in the comics Did you know that? Yeah, lots of differences between the show's way better in the comics as far as how they handle everything. Although that reveal at the end, if you didn't know it, in the comics, Homelander keeps getting shown these photos of him doing horrific things. But really, they have a clone of him doing the horrific things. And that's only revealed to him at the very end. And it's wacky.

It's this huge reveal. That's not present in the TV show. So for me, it was always about Billy Butcher getting his. revenge on Homlander and it didn't feel it didn't feel like a good revenge either like he killed him quick that was a quick death like that wasn't that bad

you just shoot him Homlander completely lost his dignity on the way out he put a crowbar like and sort of scalped him like he put in it in his head and levered it up they never they did it in one room they never left the room that they were in for this fight if you go back and compare to that hero-gazim fight

where they're like lasering each other across the room and flying and jumping and homilater goes to get away and they grab his cape and pull him back and that fight had me pumped but what I really wanted was remember when they do the parody of like the Justice League movies and they're like on a movie set

making a movie within the show and all the superheroes are there and the whole city is destroyed and the skyline is like brown sooty smoke it's like why didn't we do that? Why didn't we do anything that made me feel like this was a bigger story than an office like

kerfuffle. We didn't leave the room we were in and we can all fly. He went to space to put Elon Musk in space in like a split second. Like I would have liked it if we were... Oh, I saw that. They like had a guy that was just like Elon Musk.

And I don't know where their budget went. I don't know how they can't afford the CGI to make a big superhero fight. And I would have liked it if I'll tell you what I do like. I I like that once everybody's depowered,

butchers, head and shoulders better than Homelanders. I needed that. And I wish he'd said something like, probably shouldn't learn to fight all those years, eh? And just like, like starts piecing him up. I needed more of that. I like that a lot. But everything that led up to him being DeSX Machina depowered,

I didn't like that. I wish you'd subverted my expectations, killed Kimiko. Now we can't depower him. Now we've got to do it hard. way and just do it the hard way because I think you can beat him. Like he,

he seems so beatable by the end. Like they were handling him pretty well. Like if they beat them, we have no whole. Tenticles were effective somehow. Like, what's up, Hey,

there'd be a whole other range of complaints. Like, oh, they depowered Homelander in this way. Why didn't he laser the tentacles? Why'd me this? Why'd me that? They had the depower.

I didn't it. Every time I see you, Caleb, you look like a guy who's, more and more into fishing. I've been fished years. Hey guys, sorry I was so fucking late. You're good.

Candy business keeping you. No, uh, no traffic and stuff. But very annoying stuff, Dallas. It sounds like it's far away or like, what do we got? Is it not right here? Echo, come on, get your bike close.

Sounds right. Hold on. It should be a, it's like a, studio microphone. Oh, it's so much better. Yes, to your microphones. Is that good? That's better.

Beautiful. Okay, good. We'll do that. Yeah. What's new with you? Any more animals on the farm? Yes, we have two Turkish baws now. And we have a, maybe the first Zibu Highland hybrid of all time.

Is my mic good? For real? You sound good now. It's better. Okay, good. My God. There's no echo or anything, because this is the first time I've done this. I'm using Team Viewer to connect to the other computer so I can actually see you guys.

Oh, usually can't see us? I know, this is a new, this is like a new convoluted bullshit set up that I'm regretting. I've been there. Sometimes you want to add failure points. Yeah, it makes things more fun. Keep me honest. Yeah, I am getting a little static when you talk. Oh, fuck.

Are you static? I was getting that tiny bit of, maybe that's just, sort of too far from the. I get this to be a little bit when he talks. Is this one work? Well, then disregard me. Fuck, man. I'm just going to fucking kill myself. We're like, Caleb can join mid-show. His audio's always great. And he's like, no, guys, I've created a Rube Goldberg machine of marbles and and connects.

It's a nice room, though. I like it. This is like, this is. There he is. This is like, this is total bullshit. I'm the tech guy. I shouldn't be having this fucking problem. Oh. Like an idiot. I was late in. I made the cardinal scent of sounding like fucking shit.

I had a guy. This is like 10 years ago. 15. I would stream my Xbox. And I had so many like splitters for HDMI, pipe and stuff to a recording card, my screen so I could play. And maybe three different places and all the setup.

And I would constantly have issues. And someone on Twitter just ripped me. They're like, you suck at this. Your setup's too complicated. Hashtag you're stupid. And I'm like, he's not wrong. He's not wrong. Like, so many points of failure, they always failed.

Yeah. Yeah, for a long time, I would lose footage, like, on a weekly basis. I think I hear that static. Hold on a second. I feel like a fucking retard. Sorry, guys. No, I wasn't crazy. I knew it.

I got All the The reason my ears are so good Is because my eyes have failed me Like So I have a lower I have a lower degree of daredevilism Except I'm not like

A terrible superhero Who stops like misdemeanors Is my understanding Is a dangerous place Okay He is he fights the kingpin On a regular basis Yeah why did the king

just a fat guy? That's not really powerful. That's all muscle. But he's not a universe you're in. Kingpin's not a superhero, right? He's a super villain. Sorry, but he doesn't have like strength or anything. He's just rich.

His feats of strength are bonkers. Depending on what universe you're in, he's somewhere between 250 and 1,000 pounds of pure muscle. He weighs a thousand pounds. Yes. Yeah. He's done lifts of crazy amounts. you tear a man apart you know there that was pretty cool i always like that the uh origin of his power came from uh the same ooze that made the ninja turtles i thought that was pretty cool oh

this is that really gonna be gonna be off putting in any board room yeah the um the the chemical spill that blinds matt murdock is the same one where the the canister of ooze rolls into the sewer and creates the ninja turtles i get that guy's strong but i if he was on tinder everyone would swipe left. Like nobody wants a piece of Fisk. But he would be on he'd be like on a yacht, right? Because his bigger power is that he's a billionaire, I think.

Right? He dooks it out. That's a real life superpower. Yeah, that's a real life superpower. Dude, you can look like absolute shit on a yacht and you're, he's like a master criminal. You know, he owns the judges and the police and he's always up to no good. But at the end of every comic and

story, they do face off. And he fight Spider-Man or he fights Daredevil or whoever. There's a great one where Spite. I think Kingpin messes with Mary Jane. He does, or maybe Peter's grandma or something. And Peter just, Spider-Man beats

the shit out of fist. He's like grabbing, grabbing his fat rolls and stuff and just beating the fuck at him. It's great. He humiliates him in the wind too. Like he, that is a really it's fun because I think he messes with Aunt May, but I'm not positive. And Spider-

man just like takes the mask off i think he just goes in there with a pair of jeans and beats the crap out of fiske and it's it and he doesn't like just beat him like he humiliates them and fisc is begging and he let i think he fisc even wants to die and he's like nah i'm gonna keep you in here humiliated and everyone's going to know that you're not so tough yeah you know it gets better than you yeah we uh you guys you guys went past the dating apps thing have you guys ever had any uh I know you've been talking about the boys and shit. I'm so over. I don't really know.

Did you guys like the ending to it? I don't want to rehash exactly what you've already talked about because it was fucking late. I hated the ending. Kyle hated it. I think you guys are in the majority opinion. I liked it. And I think I'm on an island by myself. I think it's like a six on IMBD, like that episode.

I did like the last season because there was a lot of shitting and blood and stuff. And I really like that about TV shows. But the, like, the media literate part of the brain. I didn't really like it very much. The ending was terrible. I didn't like it. I don't like anything where I really like horror movies and movies in general that go ahead and put it in the 80s or the 90s. So we don't have to deal with cell phones and social media and streaming and influencers and make that part of it. Like whenever there's a movie where there's like some sort of magical McGuffin or horror element,

people will be like going on Facebook live and it's just like, no, don't, you're taking me out of this. This is so stupid. but don't go into Facebook live. They're showing videos of the hauntings on YouTube, and people are calling them fake, and it's like, god damn it. Like,

this ruins everything. Cell phones ruin horror movies. If you just go right back to the 80s and do a horror movie, you're like, oh, you don't have a roadmap? Well, you're lost,

buddy. You're lost out here. Cell phone service? What's a cell phone? Like, you're doing like one of those giant bricks, they got at NASA? Like,

nobody's got a real cell phone in 1980, not a real, a normal person. Yeah. It makes them so much. better to you back to the 80s or the 90s or something like that. Get rid of all the modern tech. But I really hate whenever there's influencers or like

live streaming or anything like that integrated into the movie, especially if it's the core of the movie. Like a movie like Fear.com that came out back in the day where it's like the whole thing is an evil website. Turn your computer off. It was so idiot. Yeah, it was so avoidable. It was a big year episode I liked.

I don't know why I'm always so contrarian. But like, do you know the one where like it's mostly about her social status ranking and she has to like make friends with people that are higher status to elevate her status? She needs endorsements, I think. Is that the one where they're tettling the bikes all day long, like to make electricity or whatever? And I don't think so. I think it's a different. Yeah.

Yeah. There's a woman. She's like pretty but chubby. You know, like on a one to 10 scale, you'd think her social score would be like six and a half or seven, but she desperately sort of wants to be an eight. She gets invited to a wedding, I think, by a nine or a ten, and everything just goes wrong, and she gets uninvited. It was pretty interesting little take on social media status.

Yeah, I'm sure it's probably, like, based slightly on the sort of Chinese social scores and stuff like that. They're all the same, though, those Black Mirror episodes. I can, I stopped watching when they started adding, when they added like Miley Cyrus, like, I don't like that either whenever you bring some someone who's not a trained good actor into my show

like they put a Kardashian in American Horror Story and I'm like well I'm not watching this season Why is Lady Gaga here? What's Toby Keith doing hiding out in this cabin? Hang on a minute. All right, Lady Gaga I did a good job. I thought for real Lady Gaga can act and she's odd looking and I

think she's kind of hot in a weird way I'm fine with her. Kardashian can't act. Like she is a talentless hope. She really is. Which one? Kim. Oh, they brought, it was Kim Kardashian was in American Horror Story? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you get to see Ray J got his ass beat?

Speaking of Kim Kardashian. No, he got beat up? Who beat up Ray J? I think it was, I think it was the Aden Ross fights. Is that, maybe I'm making that up. Is that, was that Ray J? Oh, what was the Ray J that got beat? Yeah, I did see that actually. I didn't, I saw that Ray J got beat up in a boxing match, but I was There's no way that's the guy who made the sex date with Kardashian.

I think that is Ray J. Let's see. I think he's also terminally ill or something, but he just went into boxing fight and he was going to, oh, he's severe heart failure. He says it was the real Ray J. Huh. He had severe heart failure and he took on a boxing match anyway.

What a fucking idiot. Part of a champion right there. He doesn't know of a hell out of that. It seems like a contender. He also lost it. Champion hearts pump blood. This guy's congestible. heart failure. There's no chance. I have some questions for a thumb. This guy's going. I have some

questions for you guys. Yes. Um, after, oh my gosh, there's Ray J dead. T.M. Lee is the devil. He is the fucking devil. He's just so evil. That seemed illegal to look at. He shouldn't be able to take pictures of people in their hospital beds. That's what. I mean, it was like, it was like not like a good eye open look. That's a nurse or somebody who's like on the inside, took that pick and sold it for $20,000 to TMZ. Yeah.

Oh my God. It's like that the dude on 4chan who reported Epstein's death on 4chan. He was like a medic or some shit like that. Oh yeah. He's like, it looks like a body double to me guys. Mm-hmm. And he's like, look at the bridge of the me. It's different. There was

the person, it was reported on 4chan that Epstein died first, 38 minutes before any major news outlet reported it. Fortune's crazy. Why is that site so important? It's not that big in terms of traffic,

but in terms of impact, it's huge. Yeah, they got the war hammer are the War Thunder forums. You know about that stuff, right? The guys on War Thunder, like, all right, so War Thunder is

military sim, like, multiplayer game. And this is where everybody's benefit. And one of the things that happens in there is you have real world armies fighting each other. So the real world, you know, American tank versus the real world real world Russian one, APCs, helicopters, fighter planes. And a lot of the players are in the know on this stuff. They're in the military or they work on these vehicles and stuff like that.

And so they get annoyed and they get into arguments about the capabilities of real world weapon systems that are being played in the game. they're way off in this helicopter. It would be able to defeat that that kind of missile. That's not even a problem for it and somebody have piped back. Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. They're like, actually I do. I work on them.

Here are this classified specifications of that helicopter. Post them. And like it's happened multiple times where like top secret information about fighter craft or helicopters or whatever get posted on there to win an argument with another gamer. In Toronto, every arrival is a

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forums leaked that kind of stuff. And I wish there were more forums still active. Like, do you remember the classic bodybuilding.com fight where two guys argued about how many days of the week there were? Do you know that one, Caleb? Yeah. I got bodied on bodybuilding.com. When I was like 14 years old, I was trying to gain weight and build muscle and stuff. And I went on bodybuilding.com and I was like, any advice for a hard gainer?

And I just got my shit pushed in by everybody. they're like, eat more idiot, you fucking bitch. They're so mean to me. They're not very helpful on forums. They're mean. Reddit is every forum combined into one in one nice little self-contained place. I mean, it's what all the language models

learn from anyway. Too many mods. Like the old forums, like people were wheeling and dealing. Like just saying whatever the fuck they wanted. Now you have the old forums are moderated too. Not like Reddit. Reddits cringe. I just kidding.

I love Reddit. I use it every single day. Yeah, if you're trying to learn something, new skill or trying to get into a new hobby. Where else would you go? Facebook? It's good for hobbies. I mean, the Facebook group said nobody. Who's in Facebook groups on this?

Woody, how many Facebook groups are you in? I used to be in the paramotor one a lot. I knew it. I figured. Um, I don't pay attention. There's been some reef keeping, like the fish. tanks where they keep corals.

They're there, but that's not the main place. There's a place called Reef Central. That's the main forum. I don't use Facebook very much. Maybe. I don't know. I had a gun that way back in the day. Woodworker.net was my jam, but I bet it's moved to Facebook

or something. It just seems like the crowd that would. Facebook killed all the forums or maybe Reddit too. Reddit, yeah. I don't have Facebook. What about you, Kyle? You in any groups? Just Reddit. Just Reddit. I don't do Facebook at all. Okay.

But, you know, I got my, I mostly use Reddit for entertainment if I'm going to scroll it. But if I'm trying to learn a new skill, it's usually cooking. Like I'm trying to learn how to cook a new thing or a new technique, especially if I'm going to do something expensive, like a brisket or a tenderloin. I'll go through like multiple Reddit threads because these people will, like, well, I tried it 15 different ways. Here are my results. And they've broken it down. And I'm like, fuck. Yeah, exactly. autism. This guy knows what's up.

Yeah. This guy did ribs 12 different ways and found out the juiciest way to make a rib and save me time. So I use it for that a lot. You won't find good mental health advice, though, on it on Reddit. Oh, yeah, that's a surprise for it. Well, I am a diagnosed freak for many years ago. And when I first became a diagnosed freak, you like pissing blood already in this show. Oh, dude.

I went on Reddit first. I remember laying down one morning. This is when I was probably 16 years old. And I was like, my heart was beating really fast. And I was like, there's something wrong with me. I'm probably going to die. So I looked it up. And I was like, heart beating fast while laying down.

And then I saw Reddit. And then I found this community of people who just, they suffer from something called Soldier's Heart, which is like, I've gotten over it now, but for a while. I remember reading these people that they went to this place for sympathy and to just like find other like survivors and stuff for just it's a neurosis that is built it's built around you being aware of your heartbeat and it causes anxiety and it like it fucked my head up for a long time because I was I would think about my heartbeat and then it would start beating harder

and then I would start to like almost have a panic attack and then if I had real anxiety it would kind of like it was just like this crazy thing that um i'm very weak weak willed if you guys couldn't realize already but uh i read i went on a redid city guy who makes candy for a living talking about the weak willy is please carry on the uh the the reading about the awareness of the human heart on reddit and how there's an entire community of people who are just sad and they can't live their lives because of it maybe they're not around anymore that maybe some of them died off right be um But that really fucked me up.

And then also just any other thing, like depression or whatever, it's like, I've been depressed for 70 years. And it's like, oh, there's these people that just don't get better. And they're all posting on Reddit. There's not very many success stories. The gangstalking one is the one that reinforcese the most. Big thing. That's fun. I love that.

Well, there are people who are mentally ill and they're thinking that they're being followed by Blue Honda's. And so they go on to Reddit and they see somebody else who's also being followed by Blue Hondas. and it just really wrecks their whole life. Oh yeah. Have you seen like the like there was again, to bring it back to 4chan again, there was a post on 4chan years ago where it was like in 1994

if someone wanted to fuck toasters, they'd bring it up to someone in their life and they'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Get your shit together. But now they go to R slash toaster fuckers and they have a bunch of people telling them that they're misunderstood and victimized and to never let anyone tell them

not to fuck toast. You guys ever been on our forward slash cock costumes? Yeah. No, that's not it, right? Isn't it like, coxum? It's coxenus? It's, cause penis. Cause penis.

That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I may have learned about it from this show, actually. Yeah, probably said. Yeah. Telling people about new subreddits is one of the things we do around here. Some of those were pretty funny.

Kyle linked me that and like the effort. It's like, it's Gandalf the gray. And I'm like, wow. It's pretty good. How do you get the little pipe and the little staff? How do you attach it to you? His little murk, a little hairy bush. Yeah.

Yeah, Reddit, any forum that's going to indulge you in whatever you're worried about, not a good idea. I've like, the one I pop into every few months and I brought it up on the show before is Arphid. It's like avoidant food restrictive disorder. And it's a bunch of people being like, I have. It's crazy, Caleb. You wouldn't believe all of their safe foods are chicken nuggets and French fries. The most delicious foods. It's crazy.

It's wild. How serendipitous that all of them have the same safe foods. It's like, what do you like? Tasty nonsense? Yeah, me too. Me too. Every day is a battle not to eat tasty nonsense and I often lose. I don't think it's weird.

I don't see it like that. I see some people are just. I don't know why they're scared of like more complex tastes, but they like simple foods. Chicken nuggets and french fries are bland, simple things. And they're not experimenting with new stuff because every experiment fails for them. They're not going to last. They're not going to last. They'll post and be like big success story.

Try to pair only vomited once. And it's like, yeah, that is, I don't understand that. I mean, obviously it's a real thing because they're so, many people who, you know, it's like there's a rule, right? It's like for enough people to create a margin, the margin creates the rule or whatever, especially now. But like, if you fail and

you give up at your experiment of like eating like, I don't know, a peanut butter sandwich or something like that or a pear or an apple or a tomato, I feel like you're just not going to make it far. How do you do anything at all, really? Yeah. How are you not exhausted all the time? Like you've never had a vitamin. Yeah, you've never been, well, you never, what happens when you're challenged with something real? Yeah. When someone says, like, that would be like their saw thing. They have that, that, that nonsense, like, I guess, like, the shotgun helmet on. And it's like, in front of you is an

apple. Eat it. No, fuck. I scream and tape the tear. Yeah. Yeah, it's all fucking chicken tundies, mac and cheese and cheese and some of them are so restricted it's ridiculous yeah pizza uh i think that's a load of nonsense if i would have said to my dad as a kid i have arfin it wasn't a thing back then he would have been like do you there's something else you're going to have in a little bit if you don't eat that a welt from a belt you did you with the belt yeah a lot like it's No, I would eat mac and cheese, obviously. But yeah, the belt was a, I mean, I feel like that's a, you know, a good spanking tool or it was in the 90s.

Like that, that's what you would use. My mom was all about the wooden spoon. But like she didn't have the, she didn't have the upper body strength. She didn't, like, she didn't, she didn't, she didn't throw her hips in it the way my dad did. No rotation. No rotation. Yeah. It was a blessing when she was spanking.

It was like, yeah, I'm going to get out easy. going to have to pretend this hurts so that she tells dad this has been handled. I don't think all kids need to be spaked, but some do. That's where I come down on spanking. I think there are some kids that are just like smart enough and with it enough and decent enough that you can like talk to them, maybe some timeout stuff or taking away privileges and such. But I saw a kid knocking bread off the shelves in a grocery store today on the internet and

I was like, somebody needs to whoop his ass. somebody used to snatch him up by the nape of his neck and start hitting him before he's even reached the apex of the swing of being jerked into the air like he needs a cartoon, loony tune style asshole cartoons assholes. That's funny. Does anyone here think they were the kid that didn't need to get hit? Because I earned some violence growing up.

What about you guys? I was not, I didn't deserve it. I deserved it. Kyle deserved it into early adulthood. Jesus Christ. He's like a rascal. Yeah, like three weeks ago, you're like, I destroyed hundreds of thousands of dollars in property and mailboxes. I would have half.

You were driving. There were definitely some that I deserve. But also, I feel like sometimes I was just wrong place, wrong time. Like, wasn't, I didn't deserve it. Hmm. Yeah, they could have talked to me out of it. And it was effective, too. I always, I was always like, whoo.

I shouldn't do that. Don't do that again. Don't get caught doing it at the very least. That was no fun, you know? My mom would have more like explosive angry attacks where it seemed like the spanking was because she was just mad and fed up with me. But my dad would have more like, I don't know, like rules and regulation based spankings.

Well, you did this and that and the other. Your punishment is hitting until my hand goes numb. Whoa. Oh, he was on hand? He would, yeah, he would do hand. He would also do belt sometimes, I think. I don't remember the belt specifically, but I do remember his hand, feeling like it felt like a paddle itself. And then one time at school I did get paddled. Only once, but I got paddled. The school administration paddled you? Yeah, yeah. And that, I remember that being very, very painful. It was like way harder and more solid than I thought it was going to be. like he had one of those big wooden paddles that looked like a bode ore with holes drilled in it

it's got called old faithful or something hanging on the wall and he hit me so hard with that thing they were called swats um and i remember there's like a form that shows like punishments in the school and swats are one of them and i think they could do 10 swats i got three and i was like legally i didn't cry i didn't cry but it was that it was that feeling where it's like i could if i wanted I could push some tears out. Like, that hurt. We didn't have swatting in any of the schools I went to, but we had a transfer who came from a school that had swatting.

And he said that the culture was that, like, people cried, but no one brought it up. Like, everyone knew. Like, today, you, tomorrow could be me, chillax. Yeah. There before the grace of God. My father told me that he was beaten in school. But my dad never, he never beat, he never woke my ass once,

not a single time. My mom, she did what Kyle was saying, where she would just get mad, I feel like, and then she would just take her rage out on me at the Chinese restaurant or something like that. She'd take me in the back at the old China Jade and front row of Virginia and whoop my ass. But that's it.

Not in public. Never in public. No. In the bathroom. In the bathroom. She'd take you to the bathroom, quip your ass, and then you'd be sitting at the table crying. It's a box-sickers. I was only really, Eat some bot stickers.

I was more of a Mugu Guypan guy. But I used to get my ass beat by my mom. And I feel like I didn't really do anything wrong. She just said I was annoying and just fucking was really loud and stuff. But I got very indignant after the ass whoppings. And like I couldn't learn from them, I guess. I just felt very indignant after that where I wasn't really an indignant child in any other sense. I was a pretty good little baby child, pretty good little kid.

And then if my mom would get really mad, her unreasonableness would then breed unreasonableness than I, and I, which I feel like, you know. I would push the edge on purpose, though. I would. So would I, yeah. I would twist the knife. I would say stuff and mock her. And like, and then when she tried to move toward me, I would start doing that, like, run around the other side of the furniture kind of thing. So then she goes to range to tax.

Okay. So she would use, like, shoes. I remember she used hangers, like co-hangers, the plastic ones. She'd flick those at you, like fucking bullseye from Daredevil. Just use a real, she could flick one of those things. And then, like, my favorite was the fist that she would make when she was going to give me a punch. She only, she punched me maybe like two or three times ever, usually in the arm. But one time she popped me in the mouth real good.

And she, like, made this, like, weird knuckle punch like this. And like, yeah. Like, got me right in the mouth. Oh, monkey style. It was like that. And she, like, threw this real quick jab and, like, caught me off guard. I was, like, 16 or 17 or something like that. I just remember going to my cousin's house and be like, who popped you in the mouth?

And I'm like, mama. One time I deserved it, but I do think she went a little overboard. I was, like, a very little kid, like four. And I guess I was sitting there. I don't even remember this. Like, I have memories from four, but I've blacked this out. And I guess I just. just bit my brothers, my younger brother's back, like hard, just like, went in there, bit

him and he was like bleeding a little bit from it. My mom got off the phone, hung it up, lost her mind. And I was also playing with this big plastic shark, like a not a soft, like a hard plastic shark, but like the fins are sharp. And she like grabbed that for me. No, it was a regular shark. She grabbed the tail of that thing. And she just whack, wop, what, just back, like smacked me on the ass. and I was doing that like trying to run around like away from her, but I couldn't quite escape. That was a, thank God they didn't keep that plastic shark around because when she would hit the right,

the right angle, it was just that fin, just stabbing right into my soft. Was there a connection there? Like, but, because I'm seeing like some parallels, you bit the blood out of your, your brother in the back. And it seems like you were playing with a shark toy. So were you like chasing him around, maybe going down, Oh, God.

Don on. Don on. I think you may. I've never thought about that. I think maybe I was playing with the shark and I bit him in return. That's awesome. And then she smacked me around with that thing. Yeah.

Yeah. At one, she smacked me with it. And at one point, like, I turned around to try and flee and she hit me in my testicles with it. Oh. And that was a painful one. Thank you. God. It wasn't the blade of the fin.

It was just the soft white underbelly. It could have been a four-year-old Taylor also have a hyena-like bite strength? He bit a lot out of that kid. I've been, I guess it's in the story, isn't it? I've been him good. Yeah. I got a little details, and he was born with that jaw. I've got a bite mark on my, like, my little love handle from a little kid.

When I was probably 10 years old, he, you know how he was, I don't know if he was like maybe eight. or seven, like one school generation below me, I guess, where he was like younger, but we're still kids and we could play in sort of the same way. And I remember like holding him over my shoulder and like running around. And he bit me in my love handle and I just threw him into a wire fence. And I never saw him again. I didn't get in trouble. And he ran, he was screaming and crying, obviously, and then ran home. But I still have a fucking scar. I haven't seen that kid. He's probably almost 30 years old now. Damn shit.

Sounds like he deserved to get tossed. Yeah, that little. Dude, I wanted to beat him up. Do you ever get spanked by anyone who wasn't your mom or dad? No. No, my grandparents, if I did do anything bad, which was rare, I was not a poorly behaved kid. I mouthed off. Like, I was a talker.

But, like, I wasn't, like, I never gotten, I wasn't, like, punch in or hitting or shoving, like, other kids in school. That was something I never, ever did. And so there was no reason for that. Yeah. I remember my grandmother threatening me with a belt maybe once or twice, got her pretty angry. I can't think of anyone else. I know I had no fear of any other adult, like doing anything to me or really telling me what to do at all. I was only afraid of my parents.

Like, I didn't care what anybody else had to say. I feared what my teachers would say to my parents because I do remember as a kid sometimes when they're like, it's a parent teacher conference. and it's like, oh, I've been acting a fool. I've been, like, I've been riffing in class, like trying to get laughs from the other kids, and they really didn't appreciate that. I never really got in trouble, like, in school for stuff like that.

Like, I don't know. Like, I never, like, I would talk and I would make jokes and stuff, but, like, my teacher usually, like, liked it and would just laugh and, like, move along. Like, she would, I was never just rough. to. If anything, I was sort of adding to the conversation and making a joke or something like that. Never really had any issues in elementary school at all, especially, until I got to fourth grade. I had a fourth grade teacher who legitimately had it out for me. Like, I was not a bad kid. Like, the things that she would call parent teacher conferences for were wild. Like, flushing the toilet with my foot and, like, putting Elmer's glue on my hands.

I still do that in public. I was eight. I put glue on my hands because I was eight. And like, my parents had to come. And they're like, we, we just don't know what's due with him. He's got enhanced behavioral issue. That's bad. And it's like, it's with the glue on his hands. And he was peeling it off. It's very distracting. That's ridiculous. Early in grade school, I do remember getting in a little trouble because me and my friend Alex, we would just ramp each other up in class. And like we would, we'd like do, I don't even know where I learned it. Like, we'd like do like mock Chinese voices to each other. Oh, thank you. I like that. I don't buy it. And it doesn't. You ever play penis?

Oh, that was, you know, even when I was a kid, I was like, this is gosh. Let's be a little more clever boys. All right. Here's how penis works. We're in school and we're probably in a situation where we're supposed to be keeping it down but not a dead silent. Like maybe we're in like a big meeting with the entire grade in the lunchroom and

there's a speaker or something like that. Maybe the teacher's getting her shit together and it's not exactly class time, something like that. We're in the gym. Coaches over there teaching the other side how to do volleyball right. I say penis. You then have to say penis at least a little bit louder. Penis. We go back and forth until someone chickens out.

Yeah. It's funner than it sounds, especially when you're 12. Oh, when you're 12, it's, I remember watching people play it. and both feeling, both being a little cowardly to not jump in, but also being like, this is a, this is a fucking boilerplate joke, brothers. Like,

how about you do daffy duck until the teacher makes you stand in the hall? How about that? We would also do a game where we threw things in the lunchroom, but, but that seems a little more, little more mean. Oh, I was not about to throw my food. Dude, that's,

I started a food food. I'm homeschooled for most of my career as a child or whatever. And I went into first grade. And I started a food fight, like on one of the first days, I got whatever it's called, like, a red card or something. One of those little black card, maybe. Pink slipped. And they made me walk the, there was like a box around a sandpit in recess. And every day they made me walk around that while the other kids.

played recess and my mom she didn't like it so she pulled me out of school but it was because I started a food fight I was like that was bad but that was like the only real bad thing I've ever done I remember shooting jello out of a straw that's not even bad

we tried to organize a food fight in high school it was senior year probably and I think we all had maybe there was a movie that came out that had a food fight and I think we all just kind of had this idea like growing up that food fights would occasionally happen in school from from TV shows. And they never

did. And we were like, we're going to do it. Today at second lunch food fight. And like, of course, it leads to the teachers. You went to Shire Academy? Of course, it leaks out to the teachers. And so like, there's, they

brought like 30 teachers in there and they're like staring at everybody. And one girl, she had the balls to huck like a cupcake across the lunch. trum. They immediately like snatch her up. She's out of there. They gipmode her ass and took

her out. I dated her after that. I thought that was cool as shit. I was like none of you had the balls. She's turned up and through. I would have been like none of you were brave enough to throw your chicken tenders at me. When I was 11 or 12, I changed schools. So I'm brand new there. I don't know

anyone. It's awkward for me. And there's a food fight. And I'm like, this is going to be great. There's food fights here every day. There was never another. That was the end. You had a food fight, though. That's impressive because I don't know. Oh, yeah.

I don't take any credit for it. It just broke out. I was only there. But you joined in Rome, right? Oh, I did. Yeah, yeah. And they gave me a pass. Like, I was one of the, there's like a, I don't know,

300 kids involved in this food fight and four of us got caught. And yeah, I'm not even exaggerating. I don't think. Like, it was a big food fight. And, um, But when they were like dealing out doling out punishments, they're like, this is his first day here. He's just trying to fit in. Like they had a little empathy for me.

Yeah. So still covered in your in your school years ever get expelled? Like permanently removed from the school? Really? What they do? In high school. One guy murdered his sister. Okay.

Well, he wasn't expelled as much as he was incarcerated, right? Yeah. I guess. there was another one who was here yeah there was a deed there was a BATX really

like he would bounce from our school to Juvie and then eventually he wasn't welcome back in our school he got expelled okay I had to run in with that guy

um I've told the story before he was a bad dude he wasn't that I told you before like he's the guy where I left like

I had this way of rolling up my shirt to be almost a football and inside of that role was my wallet and like something else. And we were jumping off bridges into the water and like at the end of the night they dropped me off my house. I ran in absent mindingly not realizing I had left my shirt and wallet behind and he stole it. And I went to his house to confront him.

I found my shirt but not my wallet and he claimed he didn't have it. And I don't know. I just sort of assessed the situation. I was like old enough to drive at this point. I think I had a motorcycle. And I was like, I think there's like a 20% chance I win this fight. You know, and in the end, I was just like, no, I think I'll just not take the ass kicking and pretend I believe he only had my shirt. Not my finest moment, but I don't know that I should have played it any differently.

You ran the risk reward. Yeah. Even running a risk reward in that sort of situation is very commendable, I feel like. I feel like anytime I've ever considered violence, I've never been like, there's probably a 19% chance that this works out for me. I've never thought of that. As an adult,

I had this downstairs neighbor. I'm like 20. And I'm an accountant, so I'm pretty badass. And my downstairs neighbor is loud all the time. But he's complaining about the noise I make. He says he can hear me walk and that I sound like an elephant, which is a little bit true.

But I'm your upstairs neighbor. What do you want? And at one point, he's at the door. yelling at me and I'm like really fit at this point and I was like huh so what's your next move what do you intend to do about this because he's being disrespectful and he's like I'd watch your car and I was like yeah we'll see and he shuts the door and leaves and that was I think he did the same calculus I think he was he probably outweighed me but he was a fat piece of shit and I

I had just finished lifeguarding that summer. I worked out four hours a day. And I think he was like, maybe I shouldn't. That's what was up. Do you think he's still a fat piece of shit? He might be dead. Like,

he went to prison before I moved out for beating his girlfriend, wife person. Oh, that's fucking sucks. Oh, and he was a drug dealer. He sold, like, he sold drugs to the youngest kids. They were like 11. You guys ever smoked crack?

This was by a low-income housing, when I stayed in the low-income housing unit. The only kid I know that got expelled was the same guy I've brought up on the show before who put Mighty Putty and all the school locks really early one day. And so then when I got to school that morning, I was like, where are all the doors off?

Like, all the doors removed and the janitors are cranky. Like, and it turned out he did that. But that was like a long line of things. He was in the, like the special needs class, but there weren't enough classes to like separate the people who needed to be in special needs for, you know, genuine needs and the people who were just behaviorally obstinate. And he was a behaviorally obstinate kid. Like he could have just

subsidies. Yeah. He also like sold pills to all sorts of people. Tremendous amounts of pills. Businessman. And so I bet that. I bet if they uncovered that, that was probably more. What kind of pills do you think? Uh, probably Adville. Probably probably. You got a little great headache. Anybody? That's funny. He got me with that one. Grandma's, you know, 80 count perks that he was shilling at lunchtime. Viagra? Yeah, selling Viagra. All right. Before we jump to the next, uh, we have an ad school discussion. We're going to hear from club WPT gold. All right, everyone. Here's a quick word from Club WPT Gold.

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like I really like Derek I've never met him or talked to him or anything like that but he seems like a really cool dude he is a cool dude and I like that when he explains these hyper complex like physiological components to supplementation he'll say it in such a way that lets me as the viewer be like yeah of course we know that You and me, Derek. You know, we've been perused PubMed together. In a way that makes me walk away thinking I'm not smart enough to understand this explanation. Oh, no, I feel like he does a good job.

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And I'm like, yeah, the agonist. Of course. Like in stories. Like in the book, right? Like in the books. The pro agonist. Exactly. The pro agonist.

Like in Lord of the Rings, right? Yeah. That's what Aragorn was. Yeah. Maybe I'm not understanding as much of his videos. I don't realize. The serotonizing the serotonin receptors. And I'm like, so wait, well, what again?

That make them work more harder. I think it would. Take a cold shower. And then imagine there's a little battle going on in your head and you'll understand it. That's pretty much what that is. We were talking about the getting expelled thing. We had one kid get sent to juvenile, like, alternative school. That's what it's called.

It wasn't like a detention facility. It was just like alternative school so that he couldn't hurt anyone else. But they brought him back after like a month or something like that. And he went right back to hurting people. Yeah, yeah, they bounce a few times. beating people up he handed one kid a shovel the shovel that was like a

we were in metals class and the the handle had like broken on the shovel so they'd replaced it with an aluminum tube like and he heated that aluminum up in a fire and handed it to a kid and aluminum when it's hot looks like aluminum it doesn't change colors or even get so it's like third degrees burned like this kid's hand like and he was always always in fights. He was always just

like getting in a fight with somebody. Winner Loo. He didn't care. Yeah, he was fat, but he was also a hoss. Like he was about six, about six foot tall, but like real strong. He'd always been like a strong big kid. He wasn't obese, but he was definitely fat.

And he was a real bully. He was a real problem. He called him Smiley. He would always have like a little grin on his face before he did something awful. So he was always in trouble. but then there was another guy I can't remember the end of this story

I don't think I don't know if they caught this guy or not but what they did is they broke into the school after hours they kicked in the computer lab windows and stole computers they sprayed fire extinguishers all in the gym and like put that white shit everywhere

on it all over the place and I heard they shit in a pot and baked it in the oven in the lunch room. They went on like a rampage in the school, but I genuinely don't remember if they caught those kids or not. Or if it was even kids.

But it wasn't even a prank. They just like robbed the computer lab and did like thousands of dollars worth of damage. So like I don't know if they even caught those guys though. Yeah. We had a we had a guy die. We got a die in like the tech lab. You got electrocuted. They were working

shit. They were, there was like a robotics class where they did obviously robotics, but he also did like wiring electrical boxes, and he was wiring a real electrical box and died. That's insane. What the fuck?

I don't think you learned his lesson. Yeah, how do you even, I don't don't even understand. I mean, that's, obviously that's, that happened, but that's just like crazy because a lot of, I mean, it's, it's, with just wiring like household electrical stuff, off. I feel like it's kind of hard to die.

Fused box. I've been shocked a bunch of times. I'm still here. Yeah, I've wiring outlets. I've been shocked lots. Wiring switches. I've been shocked lots. A lot of it's obviously low voltage. But when we first set up the machine for the candy company, we had to install a step-up transformer from 240 VAC to 480 VAC. And that shit was fucking scary. Right. Yeah, that'll kill you. Because we did not use an electrician. We did it ourselves.

And that was extremely, like a terrible, extremely bad idea. But it still worked. And we recently got rid of all that stuff and moved to a new place. And it lasted us the whole time. Don't tell the government in Texas that we did that. But it's probably not even... Yeah, they don't give a fuck. Yeah, they're fine.

Yeah. But that shit was so scary. Because our main machine, our main line used 480, VAC and pulled, I think, 87 amps at when it was running. So 87 amps at 480 VAC is fucking crazy. What did you power? This is the candy business, maybe? Yeah, this was the first, we had a big extruder.

This big, it's like 14 feet wide, 12 feet long. It had a front, it had six screws, six augers, and these hoppers basically, and you put raw candy product and it very slowly augurs them up these worm drives and then pushes them into this, it's like a sinus thing. It's like a big flat steel plate like that thick with a bunch of grooves. And then it takes the six inputs, the six hopper inputs and then combines them all into, so it takes all six inputs and combines them each into four outputs. So you have like the right most input on the rightmost side of the right most output, it's pretty cool.

It was like pretty cool technology. But, you know, very simple and whatever. It was, I really, I thought it was super fascinating. Setting it all up was really cool. And that thing, it had a big heating plate on the front. So that needed like individual elements to keep it hot. The augers ran and they had these huge motors on the back. It was pretty sick.

We learned a lot of cool shit. What's the monthly electric bill on this building? $4,800 a month. I thought it'd be high. Yeah. Yeah. $4,800 a month and $2,700 for natural gas. How often are you doing runs?

We don't use that machine anymore, but we were using it four days a week. Was the machine a mistake? Was it a bad purchase? No. No, it did its job when I needed it. Yeah. Okay. It was a great purchase because it got us.

I mean, it was, it's like there's probably, this is going to be slightly exaggerative, but there's probably 10 in the world, and there's none in North America that can do what we were doing. And like, we've heard it repeatedly after going after suppliers over the last year, they're like, well, this is the only one in North America. This is the only one in North America. Like, aside from ours, obviously. But ours is like, ours is like smaller scale and set up in a very unique way. So sure, yours can do 200,000 units and, you know, an eight hour shift and ours can do 200,000 units running at full blast screaming eight hours a day for an entire month.

But, yeah, it's just like this huge heavy thing. It weighed about 7,500 pounds as well. It was really cool. Damn. And it was just for your product. It wasn't something that you were able to lease out. for like private label. Yeah, we ran it 100% of the time.

Yeah, that's a lot of electricity, though. That would kill you. That would kill you for you. Yeah, you turn into one of those Indians. It was scary. It was a train. You just, a big poof and all the liquid in your skin vaporizes real quick. Yeah, it was.

Flash fry. Those guys just aren't going to figure it out, man. Like, don't hang it with those cables. That's just scary as fuck. I hate, well, I love electricity. I'm not a hater. It is scary. It is scary.

it's terrifying if you're working on something with that I've been jolted like you said like by like 120 a bunch of times and like one horsepower electric motors like when I worked on them and stuff like that it hurts but it's like it's more scary than painful you're like ah fuck okay fuck okay okay okay that's that wired there that's the hot one okay that's that's why is it black okay all right we're figuring this out of the joke um and then I've like I've been like wiring ceiling fans and stuff like that. I've been jolted a good many times. I'm pretty sure I've gotten a hold of 240 before like on a maybe not maybe on a washing machine or something like that.

But just like a little jolt. My cousin was inside a poultry house one time and lightning hit outside and ran in and he had his hand on the feed auger which is a long chunk of metal you know 250 foot long pipe with an auger inside of it. He's got his hand

on it. He's like walking like part of the work is running your handle on it. He's cleaning it. The electricity jolted him so hard that he's like burst into, he falls to the ground. And when he gets, when he's like walking out crying, he was like 16 or 17 and he's bawling, like crying from the pain. And it's funny because his uncle also got struck by lightning one time, or not his uncle, his dad, my uncle, got struck by lightning one time working a carjack. He's outside in front of his house. And he's jacking a car up with a family Indian by chance.

Indians are weak to electric damage. These guys both just. Oh, he tanked it. Right. That makes sense. These guys are ground type, Indians dirty water type. Apparently, lightning in the ground and ran in through the metal pump jack into his hand and knocked him down to the ground.

He had to be carried inside to like recover from the jolt of electricity. of like fucking weird coincidences. It's about a year ago when I told you guys that I was watching a scary movie and my mountain Dew can just fell over like whatever I was like my soda can that was on the on the coffee table. It just fell over and it had like a third

full of liquid in it. There's no gusts of wind in my living room. It just fell over and it was weird. And I've said then what I, you know, and I'll say it now, I don't believe any sort of supernatural gobbly goop. No, but I don't know what I just,

but I can't explain why that can fell over nonetheless. I have no explanation. I just don't think it's paranormal. I was watching a scary movie the other morning at like 6 a.m. or some shit like that. And in the movie, this woman is doing a ritual so that she can speak to her dead son, something like that.

And a black bird flies into the glass and like kills itself in the movie. And the shaman or whatever is like, that's the sign. It has begun. And I was like, fuck, that's kind of cool. That's kind of wild. I watched the whole movie.

An hour later, a bird flew into my window so hard and killed itself and fell over dead right outside my, on my patio. That bothered me. That bothered me for a while. That's over. Are you still in the denial phase? The way someone like 30 minutes into the horror movie is like, this is all gobbled back.

It's happening. I haven't gotten to that research phase yet where I start. getting old books or anything like that, but I'm one step away from that. Where you, like, approach someone close to you outside of the house with dark circles under your eyes. Like, you got to see what we're talking about here. It was, it seems like you're, you got a, you got a geist. You're infected.

It was a loser. You're lousy with them. I wish so much I could will a bird into your window right now. That would upset me. I think that would, I think that'd get you over to the. other side of you had push you over the edge yeah make you believe girlfriend woke up and I was like you missed the bird suicide just like what fucking look in the trash can's big ass bird in there had to keep it away from little Murphy he wanted to eat it I had a couple birds trying to kill

themselves on my downstairs window and like it started where I was like I'd be here and I'm a ways from down there and so like for me to hear that is loud and it would just be a bang bang bang every few minutes in the morning when I'm in here and I'd go down there and be like what the fuck is that in the first few days didn't see anything finally go down happened to catch it and it's just a bird just headbutting my window and then I bought snakes yeah put snakes out there they figured out the snakes were fake in like three days and they went back to headbutting the thing that fixed it is I went on Amazon and I bought a full size owl that I put inside on the window sill and like even now every three four days at least once a week I move where the owl is

down there so that they don't need to say that. You can get a motorized owl. You can get a motorized owl so its head will turn and its wings will flap a little bit. I tell you, but I had a I had a problem with my exterior like some pump drain and a plumber came out to take a look at it and he was he like had already established he was terrified of lizards and reptiles because he went into the stump pump and he goes there's a lizard in here and I'm like is that a big deal and he was like I can't I can't reach in and grab it I'm too scared and so I'm like all right let me try and so I'm reaching into my own slum pump trying to fish out this like amphibian that's swimming around couldn't do it had to go it's alive it was alive yeah I found my old my brother's old lacrosse stick scooped it out

took him in the yard, let him go. And then he was like, I want to see the exterior too. Thanks for taking care of that lizard thing, by the way. I'm sorry. What kind of lizard was it? It was just a little, like, that long amphibian or lizard that was swimming around in the sun. So it must have. Was it an amphibian or a lizard?

It was, I mean, smooth, soft skin, so amphibian. And it was. When you brought the lizard outside, did you carry the lacrosstic like a plate? Or did you dribble him like a player? Well, I didn't. That would be funnier. I should have done that. I just dropped him out there.

Where do you live? What state? Missouri. Missouri? Okay. So it could be all sorts. So you think it was an amphibious lizard? It was like a newt or maybe?

Looked. It didn't have rough skin. It had very, very smooth, soft skin. Like a gecko. Salamander. Some kind of salamander. Some kind of salamander. I don't know.

Stumpy tails, though, right? So, I mean, if the detail comes off, it is. Decent size amphibian. It was black or dark brown. Oh, okay. Probably, yeah, probably a little salamander of some time. Yeah, a little salamander. And I took him, I took the plumber out there.

He's like, I want to see where this goes because whoever set this up, the previous owner, you know, did a terrible job. And so I walk him out back and where the exit of the sump pump is is right near the egress window with the retaining wall where I have those two fake snakes and this guy comes out there and he's like all right let me take a look at this and then he audibly goes oh those are fake aren't they okay

twice this like 60 year old guy had a spaz attack he's fucking scared he just triggered a childhood memory I caught one of those lizards one time my dad was sitting in a chair and I walked up to him and threw it in his face and scared

the fuck out of him. And he whooped my ass something fierce. Oh, that's not a whooping. That's just a job like... Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Scared him good. He thought it was a snake. It's crawling all over. I got a real whooping that day. That was a top five all time.

I caught a lizard thrown on him. That wasn't so bad. My dad never had any lizards thrown on him, at least not by us. Like a story of my mom used to tell is that when I was a very little kid, I would run around in the yard. And even earlier than when I ate a few leaves because I had just seen Littlefoot do it. And I'm like, this isn't for me. Spit those out. And I apparently caught a bee and then went up to like my parents and their friends, like having like a couple's like outdoor barbecue.

And they were like, what do you got there, Taylor? And I just opened my hands and I just let a bee out to bother them. I love bees, dude. I love lizards. I love bees. I love animals, too. Not all of them. There are some,

there's some, no good necks out there. What's your least favorite animal? Ooh. No tick, no salamating insects? Oh, no tick? No insects. Let's just remove the insects in arachnid.

Yeah, because there's a lot of animals. Yeah, because my top 50,000 least favorite animals are all insects. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I got bit by a brown recluse on my side. I think they're a wolverine archetype. I don't like them.

See, Wolverines? They don't. Yeah. The panda eats up so much money and research dollars and conservation. They're not real, do you get that? Let them go. Let the panda go. Do you hear that they're not real?

I know that they are real because we have them here in Atlanta. I've seen them in person. That they're a creation. And what were they at creation? The conspiracy is that there's no, there's no like, this is a bullshit. A China trip. It's a Chinese trick. Okay.

It's a Chinese trick, really, is what it comes down to. There's no, I saw one video and I really, I should have, I should have even brought it up. But this guy said that there's no, there's no like evidence of pandas historically and like their art, Chinese art or anything like that. And the way that they act and behave, they're just so weak. just die so easily. It just doesn't make sense that they're real. They're not like a trip. That they survive that long. They're not there, right? Aren't they more closely related to something else? I forget the details.

I think they're insects. Yeah. Well, then you can't use them. Yeah, I'm trying to. Man, you remove insects and I'm suddenly having a harder time thinking of animals I just hate. There's a bunch of animals that are just dicks. A lot of birds fucking suck. All birds suck. Emus are fucking freaks. They're ugly. Fucking big old hips. They just like fucking walk around.

They have huge long. There isn't a bird in the world that's nice. Go to your local pet store and put your finger in the parrot cage. The only reason hummingbirds are nice is a lack of opportunity. If there was a six foot wingspan hummingbird, that thing would be the most dangerous animal around. Totally true. A six foot wingspan woodpecker. Can you imagine the parrot?

They'd be knocking my door down. They could be a nightmare. You could use that logic on a house cat as well. Raccoons are... I was scary. House cats are... You don't think they're good-hearted? They're only...

No. My cat, when I walk by it, it attacks me. And if it weighed 400 pounds, it'd fucking kill me. Yeah, cats have black heart. Really? Because I thought some cats were blind. No? I think some are, yeah.

Opportunistic. Like, have you ever... Have you seen those videos of, like, the... They let all the puppies out of their kennel and the duck is waiting on them and its tail's going like wag wagon the ducks is and it's going and it's like loving up on all the puppies and I've seen like I've seen like we're one hen

so there's like it's a hen house and the hen has laid her egg and sort of abandoned it. It's sitting to the side and the other hen comes over and she's like with her head she like she pecks the other hand and she's like hey egg you egg you and she grabs the egg and like pushes it under the other chicken and then like

gives her a couple like, sit on that pecks, like, dummy and like goes away. And it's like, clearly that hen was correcting the other hen on her henhood. Like she's thinking about stuff. And then I've seen people with ducks where the duck like and swans and stuff where they like, the kid runs up and they hug each other. And the duck like wraps its neck around the little kid. It's clearly like embracing it. I've seen where the duck waits on the kid to get off the school bus like a puppy.

Like, I don't know. Ducks are very well. put together compared to most birds a lot of birds are very fragile because they have to obviously fly uh like the the flightless birds are they're just normal uh but birds that fly i don't know if you guys have ever been like dove hunting or whatever but they just they just like will they just kind of come apart like birds just kind of come apart i do want to get in geese one of my least favorite animals oh yeah that's what canadian geese is wonderful pick i wish i thought of that yeah fucking any geese.

Turkeys are way better. I don't think turkeys are ornery the way geese are, but I've never like, she'd be on a walking path and had a bunch of turkeys in my way. But those geese are still fucking bold. Like, they stand there. A red-tailed hawk should be America's bird.

That's a cool bird. That's the bird sound they use for bald eagles. Yeah. Bald eagle sounds like an idiot. Ball-a-whal sounds like an idiot. Yeah, they know that. Whenever they play that, that's a red-tailed hawk.

kind of cut out a little bit yeah I get you oh wow I had no idea I've been bamboozled by big America they're often in uh we have them we have a ton of them in Georgia I think they're everywhere just about they get big they have these like there's like a daddy bird and a mama bird up there like they like bond they have those

like the what do you call it when the couple doesn't fuck around they're monogamous yeah so you like see them up there like like sitting up there on their perch together they'll be spread out doing this clearly coordinated hunting where one of them's over here and another's 100 yards over here and they're just scanning from the trees. They're great.

Yeah. There are no horribly annoying birds near me. Geese in the winter, obviously. Cardinals are sick. We have a ton of cardinals here. And I like seeing them, especially when it's snowy and everything's white. And the cardinals like sitting on my back fence. And he's this like bright, vibrant red on the backdrop of,

of white snow. I like that. Birds of prayer. Cool. We have this little hawk here in Texas called a Cooper's Hawk, and they're really small. And they're, I think it's Cooper's Hawk. There's also one that starts an O that I just tried looking up, but I couldn't find it. Because I don't remember it, and I don't know what to look up.

But somebody asked Grock, but the Cooper's Hawk, they're the most successful bird of prey I've ever seen because like I used to live at a farm in Virginia and we would see tons of redtail hawks and everything and you'd see them, you know, every down there with like a snake or whatever. But these little Cooper's hawks at the farm I live at here in Texas, they're, every time you see one flying, it will have a mouse, a snake, a lizard, little fish. Like they always, they always, when they're moving around, they're moving around very, very, just because they're just happy with what they've done. Is it a Cooper's Hawk? Let's see. Caleb, I have six birds that start with O that are in Texas.

Is it an Osprey? It is not an osprey. I believe that's a warbird. No. Orange crowned warbler. Nope. Orchard, Oriole. No, sir. Ovenbird. Uh-uh. Ow. Ow. Maybe it doesn't start with an owl. I'm a fucking idiot.

That's all I got. Woody, back to the drawing board. birds that don't start with all oh shit a kestrel it's a kestrel it's a kestrel I'm playing a trick on me how am I'm gonna fuck you over dude I'm sorry

I took your research dude I love these birds I hate normal birds but birds of prayer are so cool they are cool we had some guys come over and use falcons to like catch dogs before and they would make films of it.

You couldn't see shit in their films, but it looked pretty cool when you went out. It's like some guy pointing a big VHS camera at the sky, at two little dots up there. You can't see shit. But it was pretty cool. You guys see that? I don't know if that's like focusing on.

Not really, Zach. I'm going to have to zoom in a little bit. Let's see. I don't want to waste too much time fucking not being able to do this. I can just set a picture if need be, but you can kind of see it there, I guess. that's an owl that's a that is this owl i have like five minutes of footage of this thing

going from tree to tree and like trying to look at me i was in a hunting blind and it it saw me because i was like moving my head around like an idiot and it it uh it just was like would land saw movement in the blind and then would get closer and then like do this weird fucking trying to look at me thing and then get closer and the last video is it like 15 feet that's like at 15 feet outside of the blind just looking at me with its massive red eyes or blue or black eyes three strikes you know three tries i'd fuck that up uh but if those were a thousand pounds that would be horrific sort of dinosaur is yeah they'd fuck you up that'd be so scary dude with them big old eyes you ever seen a uh boiled owl a like you like you've cooked it or

this is a type of owl. This is a video that I swear to God I've seen where it's like somebody in some kind of area has a pot of something. And it's, it looks like owls in it. Like boiling like they're making soup. Oh, I swear it's real. Nobody eats owls soup. I'm against that.

I don't. Even the Chinese don't eat owl soup. The owl would not have mercy on us if the situations were reversed. That's true. It's reversed. I saw a falcon attack a paraglider in real life. So a bird of preas. I don't know if it was a falcon.

But yeah, we were, I had already been a paramederist, but I was adding free flight, like no motor to my skill set, taking lessons in Oklahoma. And he warned us. Like if you go over towards there, there's lift, but birds will attack you. And I took that as don't go over there. Not everyone got the same lesson from that warning.

New pilot, I don't want to be an asshole, A pilot who was much less skilled than me went over to that area. And the bird starts attacking his wing. And his reaction was nothing, nothing. He just slowly floats in like a way towards the area. And the bird did more damage and more damage until his wings not flying well anymore. Oh, no. Yeah.

Now he doesn't have the same glide ratio. He's kind of just like sinking out of the sky. Going down. They call that falling. Yeah. I worked but I could see the damage to his wig from afar

there's like streamers coming off the back of it and shit that's awesome yeah and he landed without injury but it was the end of his flying he's over it after that he got fucking maybe he belongs in the ground

you said the Chinese wouldn't even eat owls I don't think that's true they you know they like eat bats do they do they I mean aren't they at the bat market

isn't that like one of the COVID that was the web market conspiracy that now that's what the CIA once came from the lab but do we know it came from a lab yeah there are multiple

whistleblowers being like yeah we said that shit about the bats because people are retarded like yeah that's the intelligence community yeah I think so but regardless that they do have bats

at those wet markets which has to be a Those are for luck. Much harder thing to catch. You don't need them. Have you seen bats fly? Just, foo, foo, foo, foo.

You don't catch them out of the air. You go in there when they're all dangling upside down and sleepy, and you just pluck them like air. You just scoop them. You put a napkin on a rock and you throw it in the air and they'll hit it. Yeah, no problem. You guys never done that? No, I've never done a napkin trip.

They echo locate. What I have done that. My buddy was playing tennis and, you know, you toss it up before you serve, you know, maybe catch it a few times. The bat, echo locates to the fucking tennis ball follows it back to his hand and bites him.

Oh shit. And this is before I think now they've made the rabies shot like one shot. Back then you had to get like a series of injections into your stomach and it was like torturous. Like they really hurt apparently. It's not like a subcutaneous

little needle. Apparently they really jab a big needle into your stomach. But you don't want rabies. No, well it's lethal. It's 100% lethal. There's no cure for rabies. Didn't one lady survive? I think I've heard that story.

Some lady survived. Yeah, but she foams at the mouth now. She's really aggressive. It's kind of hot though. I've always said if you could like, if I worked in the bio-weapons program, I'd be working on rabies. I'd be trying to make rabies like mutated a little bit and make it like a zombie plague. because it seems to me that like rabid people are basically zombies. Damn.

Isn't that what World War Z is? Isn't that the rabies? The rage virus? Maybe. It's been a long time. The rage virus is 28 days later. My understanding of what happens in that whole series is that it's just the UK that gets fucked.

And so they're concurrently to that are people in like northern France being like it got a little out of control up there. like it's but pretty bad like nobody else got fucked up by that it's just a UK virus yeah that's funny yeah is that also true for 28 years later did it always stay in the UK I think so I haven't seen the new one

I haven't seen the new one the new there's two new movies I didn't bother with those I think it's more post apocalyptic for those and I'm assuming there's still in England that would make sense yeah now we've got ticks to worry about

Sorry, I'm an idiot. I just interrupted you again. The World War Z, the zombie plague, is initially misidentified and covered up by authorities as a highly aggressive mutation known as African radies. Ooh, that's the bad guy. Yeah, do you remember the one nation in the world who seemingly saw it coming? Israel! And was prepared. Yeah, Brad Pitt flies to Israel. And they're like, for some reason, the Israelis seem to have known this was coming.

and prepared. We built a wall. And built enormous walls all around Tel Aviv. And like, he flies into Israel. And as soon as he gets there, like, all the Palestinians, so what they do is they let all the Palestinians in, they let all the Christians in, and obviously

all the Jews in, and behind the walls. Yeah. Hear me out here. And they all start singing together, this sort of song of unity, some sort of, it would be funny if they were singing, Father Abraham, had many sons. That would have been funny.

They sing some fucking, like, some shit. And they're all chanting and singing this happy song together about the unity of all the people's. The zombies hear that shit. And it, like, drives them crazy. And they are, they start piling up on the wall like a cascade of water. And the others just climb on top of that pile until the pile, it's like ants, until they overwhelm the wall and sworn to the streets devouring everybody. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm from Tel Aviv and this is my favorite movie. Could have been worse. Could have been worse for him because they could have stopped building that wall like 60 feet. But the guy in charge was just like, who cares? We're not paying for it. Take it 80. Look at the 100.

Who's the same? We paid for it, Taylor. I don't get it. Yeah. Jericho. We did. We paid for it. Yeah.

That's so funny. I didn't even realize that the last country standing is Israel. in that movie? Yeah, I believe they got some shit. The director and producer or something got some shit and stuff because of all the murders of people and everything. But yeah, it is an interesting

movie. I like Brad Pitt a lot and I like zombie movies and I'm not very media literate so I really like it. I like a movie. Good movie. Love Brad Pitt. Is he plays too many like good looking heroes. If an actor wants to impress me, they

have to be ugly sometimes. They have to be not the hero. Maybe not even the good guy. But whenever I see Brad Pitt, he's the guy you wish you were. But he can't help it. Like he's an attractive guy. Like if you threw an eye patch on him or something, I'd be like, God damn it.

That's a Brad Pitt with an iPad. Now he's just a hot guy with an eye patch. Sidney looks like shit repeatedly in Euphoria. And she might be the best looking girl alive right now. I've seen the gifts of Euphoria on Twitter. Disagree. I don't think she goes like shit. Dude, the close-ups

make her look as bad as possible sometimes with all the wrinkles and the, you know, the blood on her and whatever she's beat up. I don't know. I thought she was doing a really good job. I didn't. People are mad at Euphoria, but I'm the one guy who seems to like it.

Man, you, I love your boldness with like show takes where everyone to be like, The Boys series finale sucks and what he's like, now all of you miss me. I love that. It's good. Euphoria sucks.

No, not for this guy. He knows. Dude, I'm starting to want more of my actors to not have Botox. I didn't realize what I was missing for this. It's better. And I look, actress, actresses, your goal isn't to be as fuckable as possible. I want to be immersed in this story. And I feel like you guys have lost the plot by making it about yourself instead of the story.

Is it an actor? Like, are there actors like men who have gotten so much that they stink now? John Travolta's new face? No. He's always swapping up. Oh, man. Is his director a hat? He's not well or poorly.

It looks good. He got one of those good ones. He got that Kim Kardashian surgeon on board or not. Who's the mother Kardashian? They got that incredible facelift. I thought he looked great. He had a silly hat on, but he was at the... I disagree.

You're thinking of Caitlin Jenner, maybe? The mother. Yeah, the Patriot family. Yeah, it looks like a million. bucks. The pimp of the family. I like that John Travolta has like a half dozen berets. I do. The half thing is cool. I'm thinking about trying a beret. I think you should go because of John Travolta. I think I look really French, to be honest. You think you look, well, I think the stash looks a bit French. I'm Italian though, Taylor.

Well, that's similar enough. Both, well, you could be Southern French. I swear, you're vibing cop and fireman to me, Caleb. That's what I'm getting out of the stash. Really not like fucking freak weirdo. But you've got like Dale from King of the Hill glasses, though. So I imagine you're into a lot of conspiracies. I am.

That is exactly what I'm going for. If Caleb walks into my Asian massage parlor, he's not getting a happy ending. I'm suspicious. I wouldn't expect No, I'd finish him. I've tried run that. You're going down, Taylor. I don't know. I mean,

copped for sure. The mustache is solid, though. He doesn't have that split in the middle. Oh, yeah. It prevents a lot of people from going stash mode. I'm on the other side of the equation where I have a very full mustache, but I'm too

moon-faced. I'm too moon-faced for a mustache. Like, this is I disagree, dude. I don't think so. I don't think so. You'd make a really good Civil War reenactor. I would. Yeah, yeah. You're like one of them good old boys with that big.

I'd have to let his go for a long while. Swab. Yeah, you like the Swab guy. Yeah. I'm the Swab guy? That's a fairly important job. Everybody else has got pre-measured stuff. He's got him unsure. There's no cinders left in that barrel. Really?

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Swab guy's got a lot of responsibility. We had similar glasses. We could all die. We do. We both have throwing that powder charge into hot cinders. Aviator-style glasses.

I don't know how bad your eyes are, but I'm never switching back from the aviator or whatever the biggest lens glasses available are. Because my peripheral vision is fantastic compared to those stylish little glasses. Yeah. Like what Woody's got on. Turn your head. Turn your head. A high style. You need a peripheral vision.

And yours are. Do you have like blue light glasses? These are, I just got new, new glasses. They're supposed to be good for migraines. And they seem to, they seem to help a little bit. But it's the same prescription I've had for like two years. And it's just, I think my left eyes, like the stigmatism, it's like 30 or whatever, 30. My man, I got, I got a stigma.

I'm way worse than, you know, 2030, but I have a stigmatism in my left. When I wake up in the morning and jet my phone, I hold it right here. and I close lefty I get all righty on the case What's your first app you open?

Tinder? Yeah It's a well grinder actually I said grinder dude what the fuck's wrong

I think that was there's there but what is your first app you open when you get to your computer

mine might be Reddit I'm not proud of that I just check my notifications you know mine's Spotify

it's probably it's like rapid fire it's like Gmail Twitter and then if I want to like have something on the background YouTube and so like oh you check your mail yeah

me too I check my phone mail every day really I check my mail when it says your authorization code is in your email that's really that's good life dude that's awesome yeah yeah I get notifications on my phone

so I just swipe down and I open them all It's usually like Snapchat, Gmail, and, you know, a messenger, WhatsApp or something like that. But definitely Reddit. Like I'm, I get my, I get Reddit, I get emails from the, from the subreddits I've joined on some of them. I don't know how to turn those off. But I don't really want to turn them off because they're usually good stuff. I think it triggers an email when like a post is like performing well on like the MMA subreddit. And I'm like, I do want to read this.

Thanks. I guess. I wouldn't like that. I have all social media notifications off. I just have emails. I don't want Twitter sending me anything. Oh, it doesn't.

I don't think of Reddit as social media, because I don't use it that way. I use it as like a news source and an entertainment like aggregator. And watching, you know, people get run down by cop cars. Like that's an entertainment. Do you use it for porn ever? Yeah, yeah, sure. There's good porn on there.

What's your favorite subreddit? Oh, I don't know. He knows what it's on, man. Put a song, Kyle. It depends what you're going for, right? Like, there's, there's, I'm always impressed by the, like, really high quality stuff, like the 60 FPS, like, like 4K stuff that's on there. That's always really neat.

But there's, there's a, there's so many. There's thousands of not safe for work subredits. And the move is like, there's a, there's a list that people have compiled of them all. And just perusing through that list is a chuckle sometimes. It's like, really? That. Okay. I mean, there's like 15 different subreddits that are about looking at a pussy from behind. You know what I mean? Like everything is covered. Yeah, sometimes you'll mention. No, no. They're often uncovered. They're often bare. But sometimes Kyle on it, because I don't use Reddit nearly as often. Kyle will mention a subreddit and it'll be something that I think he's meming about. It'll be like pussies from behind in the sun on Wednesday. And I'll be like, Like that can't be a, that's a, there's 140,000 people like on this. And they're active right now.

Active, yeah. And then you read those comments. Like you'll bring it up and I'll like click into the comments on the show. And it'll be people like commenting as though they're talking to the woman. Yeah. Which is horrible. Like, and that's, I imagine that's increased dramatically since India got internet access. It's got to be fucking bots.

Because I see that and I lose so much faith and humanity every time. Like when I see a girl who will like post a picture of her asshole or something, it'll be like any redditors out there over four inches who are looking, who want to hook up now, it's like the lowest bars that they're looking for. I swear to God, any beating hearts out there. It'll be like anyone into a chubby girl like me and she is not chubby.

She's a smoke show. And it's like, first of all, this is clearly like an only fan's model. Like who deserves with a capital M. It's covert marketing. What do you usually say to them? Nothing. Why would I say anything?

I keep flicking my thumb up. Because yes, you're so beautiful. I want you so much. They're flirting with those girls. I would grab any live wire to be with you. I would step in front of any. any train to touch your push. The prop will be like, what would you do to me if I was

sitting in your seat? And guys will write like a dirty paragraph to her and it's like, bro. What she means is delve deeper into my profile and find the pay me button and sign up. She is not interested in you. Why would she be interested? But what if you write a good enough limerick? No. Did you even think of that? No, fucking shit. You couldn't write something on this bots profile that would make her react. Consider this limerick thought.

That's cool. It's got to be bots or absolute retards. Like you've got to be so retarded. Instead of those two options, what if it's people whose their first language is not English? Still. Well, it's not about language gap. It's about like a complete disconnect about how like sex, dating, um, the dating market.

internet culture, memes, sex work, and social media work. It's all those. You have to miss out on all that to know that, like, beautiful women have a completely different dating life and dating, like, scene than you do nerd on Reddit, I'm assuming. Like, just know that this woman gets compliments paid to her all day. She has, like, 15 dicks in a jar, I like to call them, who are just, like, got friends that she could hook up with, whatever she wants. She has people who will fly her places and buy her nice things. She is not going after. She's not looking for love here on the Reddit butthole behind thong

subreddit. And is it even her posting it or is it her pimp, her business pimp being like, just some guy being like waking up at eight, like cracking his knuckles and being like, there are services for that. Do you like my butthole F-24? The butthole talk has me curious. Caleb. What's better? Nudes or ludes? Do you prefer the tease or the exposure? One and then the other. In no particular... I don't care. I have no preference. I don't want to teasing. There better be one of those little arrows where there's a progression.

Do not tease me with your fucking clothed pictures. As a matter of fact, I don't think I can see what I need to see without a speculum. talking about. That's what I'm talking about. I'm going to get some of the vet gloves that go up to the elbow. Holy shit. What are you trying to get eyebrow deep in there? Take a little peek.

As long as I can respond with one of those, you know, how you can send messages on on eyewisters. Oh, sure, sure. I write paragraphs to them. You hold the button and then it's like, it goes like, boom. Or whatever.

Wait, what? What is the? You can send. You can send text messages to people. Like if you have an iPhone, of course, and you write somebody a message, you can say nice breast. And then you hold the send button. You can do slam loud, gentle, or invisible ink.

And if you slam it, it sends it and it goes, douche when they open it up. It's fucking douche. Damn. You're teaching our audience whole new ways to get pussy. Yes. The whole new ways not to get pussy. movie. Honestly, though, yeah, yeah, yeah. To create Sahara Deserts all over.

I am the least, the least, I have no game at all. I'm, yeah, not good at that stuff. But I have a wife, so doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You just not worry about that anymore when you have a wife. Mm-hmm. And then you can just recycle those stories to friends. Just get lucky.

You know what's great is when, you know, you have your closest group of friends. that have heard all your bits and stories and riffs and whatnot. And then you have like, you go to your wife, her group of friends, and you're like, we're busting out the oldies.

Like, and then you start bunning through those and you get laughs. And you're like, you're like, you're like walking back and forth with the mic. Like, just like, and I've been this bit in three years.

Yeah. That's the wife's family. They still laugh whenever I do a Canadian accent just in general. Yeah. I mean, that was a risk. First time wife's family dropping Indian guy.

You know, you figure out quick whether they're on board or not. They were. They thought it was funny. Because it is. Because it's the easiest accent to do. And also, they just keep feeding us stuff. I can't go on Twitter without seeing non-sense

trains. Did you see the video? It's a fat white guy who like got abandoned in India his whole life. I saw that. It's a Norwegian guy. He's okay. I was just like Finland is.

I, my parents returned to Norway and he's doing and so clearly the head bob is not genetic. We've determined this. It's a cultural thing. And so and he's like and they didn't even bring me back with them. And so I am upset because I am

owed so much from Norway for this. And he's like sitting next to other. Indian guys and he's he must be the feast king of his village because he's he's the size of both of the other guys next to him he's been nibble for sure he's been nibble yeah he's created a famine in india jones the fields have gone have gone on hurdle like everybody's eating bugs and then this one from that whitey i saw someone comments on it and uh he and i agreed with the comment where the dude was like, I don't want to put any blame on this guy who was 10. But if my parents dropped me in India and I lived in Norway, I would literally start walking back.

Like, find a way to walk from India to at least the EU. Dude, who raised? This is like the jungle book plot? Yes, literally the jungle book. Blue, yeah. Blue. Yeah. I want to be like you.

I want to be like, oh, oh, oh. But it's just a montage of them, like, surfing on top of trains and getting electrocuted and swimming and filth. I wonder if he, like, if he, like, ever pushed back from his, like, native Norwegian roots in that accent, where he's like, you know, if you worship it, we should take better care of this river. And they're like, what are you talking about?

Yeah. Where would you have to walk through? Jungle booked. Oh, my God. You'd have to walk through hell and high water. Just a really horrific places, right? Iran, you'd have to go, you could go Kazakh, Kazakhstan, or you could go Iran and then like up to like Azerbaijan and then or Turkey. I think I'd rather go the slightly longer route.

Otherwise, you're going to have to go through Pakistan and that can be risky in and of itself. Or you can go through the Bayjans. So you go through like, you know, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan, and then Russia. along the way. And then you'd have to go through you could just go straight through Russia to Finland.

Then you have to go way north and then through Sweden and then to Norway. I hit the EU though. Why not? Relax a little bit. Yeah. The 10-year-old Norwegian

abandoned in the filthiest country in the planet. You're right, yeah. I don't know anything about Europe. I generally felt really bad for him. He was like, how he's from a wealthy country. Like, how could they not, like, take care of him? And, like, why has this happened to him?

And I'm like, yeah, this is kind of awful. Like, when the, when the Apache would grab some little white kid, like, the cavalry would search high and low for them. Years would go by. But we'd eventually get those white children back and bring him back to society. No one was looking. His parents abandoned him. I thought it was the story.

Like, they, they, they know. His brother and his parents, yeah. Yeah, we're getting out of Dodge with this one. He's already doing the head, Bob. He belongs here. Yeah, maybe he was a fat kid. No, that's no reason to abandon a child. He probably broke mailboxes, too.

That would be, I deserve that show. They're basically free. What's the worst? I've meant to ask this earlier because we talked about dating apps, but I just kind of forgot, I think. What is the worst experience you guys have ever had? Have you ever been on a dating app? You've been married for a long time.

No, no, yeah, 30 years. Well, let's celebrate that first, and then we'll talk about the horrible. Yeah, congratulations. That's an incredible thing. Then we'll talk about horrible stories on dating apps. Kailer? Yeah. The worst, I guess the most interesting, weirdest one was it never even became a date.

But I matched with this girl. She had a lot of tattoos. and she called me like on the phone because we shared, you know, phone numbers and whatnot. I'm not big on the app chat, you know, get it to a real phone so you're not having to check this bullshit. Yeah. And we called and we talked on the phone. And so quickly she started like oversharing and like texting me tons of pictures of her

out at places. And the thing that turned me off the most, which literally. led to the... Were these G-rated pictures? These were not. And they, or she was like, you know, I'm pretty out there with sex stuff. And I was like, oh, okay. And she admitted that she was very, very, I've said it on the show before, but going

fast, she was into blood play. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, oh, that's crazy. And I was like, oh, that's, and like in between this, she, like, say something like that and she'd be like here's me the Cardinals game I'd be like like like

I'm going to see signals here and wild sex stuff ludes not new ludes I would say and she started never mind the blood play stuff and I was like oh wow that's and we're on the phone talking

this is years ago now and she was like you know and you know something I really like is I've even got a scar on my back from someone who went too hard, but I like to be cut. And so I really enjoy being cut. And then even after I'm bleeding, then, you know, doing this and that.

And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And then she started talking about how she'd been formerly abused. We've been talking for like, I like, I like take my phone away from my ear and I'm like, 28 minutes. Why she's talking about it? Why she talking about this stuff? And I started, I started to feel very guilty, like, because she was unloading a bunch of stuff and I didn't want to be like got to go and so had a friendly conversation she was like

by the end she had reaffirmed the date plans to be like so we're going here on Friday at this time and I was like maybe maybe like and then got off the phone went to bed like looked at the ceiling like these this is horrible like this person's clearly not well and then the next morning I texted her and was like, hey, I think you might be into things that are a little too extreme for me. I wouldn't want to disappoint. And so I think it's best. We go our separate ways. I wish you the best of luck and in your future endeavors. Disappointed me. Yeah. Sent that text. Sent that text. Immediately. Immediately. Yes. Sent that text immediately. Because I I wasn't the first foray into blood play.

That's disgusting. And so I sent that text immediately blocked her number, went on the app, blocked her, and made sure that nothing could continue. But that would have been nearly as polite. As soon as like the word, did she type blood play or did she talk blood play?

She talked and typed blood blood. Like first. Did she do the slam? What I'm getting at is, oh no, she talked about it first because we hadn't taken. I wouldn't have taken a call. If I knew the blood stuff beforehand, she broached that so quickly.

Yo, week. Yo, week. I'd have been like blood play, lose my number. Oh, wait a minute. Your blood? 919. 5555. 1-2-1-2.

No, no. Dude, I don't want anything to do with blood stuff. Yeah, blood. That's gross. That's life juice, dude. Yeah. But you like blood, Woody? I'd make sense.

He does. Oh, he does. I'm going to make some compromises, okay? I get it. Yeah. There's a lot of fish in the sea. Wait, was she fed? No. 919.

5.5. No, she looked anemic, actually. What about you, Kyle? Any horror stories? I haven't had any, like, horror stories. Like, I've never had to, like, kick anybody out or, like, like had mixed signals or anything I think that I'm good at like

establishing like our relationship before we meet well enough that like nothing can go wrong like I weed out the blood play shit for for sure I don't think I've ever had anyone who was into that genuinely what's your process

I mean I'm not I'm not dating right now but like you know all the apps you know I I like to hinge. I like Bumble and Tinder and just having those and then a couple hours a day

work in that process and then transferring the ones that are maybe to like what to like Snapchat and then you know filtering until you get I see those people's maps on Reddit sometimes of like their match to like it's like this many swipes

this many matches and then the graph goes down to how many people they met and how many people had sex with how many people how many relationships they have oh the flow charts and sometimes it'll be like 100,000 200,000 and then nothing by the end like two day they'll have two dates out of 100,000 women that's me both of them lead to nothing and it's like I bet better than that 200,000 so every woman in your city yeah under the age of like whatever it's like a few years younger than you or whatever you said to like they've gone through all of

them. Like some of those are crazy. Yeah, stuff like that. But I've never had any like, I mean, I've had some wild ladies. Where does this data come from? Did the sites make it for you? Or do people create it? I think this is just someone posting. Yes, manual. I don't, yeah, this

seems like something somebody made. This guy or girl, whoever. Like, who can imagine making a flowchart of this shit? That's like, lots of people. It is insane. but it is beautiful. Look at it. Look at it.

It's not a big. Wait, so total threads. Tinder. I start. GIF. The hell's I start. We're sending GIF. It's the last conversation versus they sent the first message.

Yeah, I get it. I didn't look. They start. They message. I mess. How does I start and I message the same? Oh, whether I send a GIF or a mess. I can't imagine sending a GIF to someone.

If you can find the actual Tinder data of somebody, because they, this is awful. Find like one of those, find one of those guys Kyle's talking about where it's just horrible. Yeah, it's, it's really sad. And they'll be like, there's a subreddit where guys post their, like, dating profiles and ask for advice. And I remember it'll be like some heavy set Midwest, Midwestern guy. And his pictures are like him ice fishing and him like, you know, doing his stuff he likes and in his cab. and stuff and then they'll sort of critique that and try to help him and he'll show his stats and it's like what I'm talking about thousands of nose and like one date and then nothing and it's like

oh did you say his profile was bad like did you think he was he brought a good package of the table I mean it's him it's who he is you know he's an outdoorsy like blue collar fishing guy so like you know 65,000 that's not the the idea they're looking for an inventive businessman banker who looks like Brad Pitt. Yeah, I think that there are some unrealistic expectations, especially on the lower end of the scale with ladies. I think the thing is all ladies can get dates, right? So they think that they're eights to tens.

But in reality, while they can get dates, they can't like landmen unless they are their peer, right? Am I saying this, well? Yeah, a lot of them are getting, you know, swiped for a one and done situation. Exactly, right? But that makes them think like, oh, hoo, I almost got there with that investment banker. Maybe the next one will be a real connection.

And it's like, no, he was using you. He was using you. You're out of his league. He just settled for you because you're easy to him. Yeah. Yeah. Man, what a depressing process. And then all the apps like monetize in such a way as to keep men addicted.

Because you got to pay for the premium. you absolutely do because they hide features behind premium that are like necessary features like i can't remember off the top of my head but i think some of the range settings some of the ability to see what the girl actually looks like before you before you swipe how many swipes you can always see how many super swipes you get like you might be able to see one of her pictures but not all of them if you're not i feel like the the super swipes that's a that's a fool's errand you know why you're gonna you're gonna fire that up look at those because because here's the thing. I think that they get it and they know that you didn't just blindly flick because you've

only got X amount of super swipes. And you're sort of saying, first of all, I was awake and looking at your profile when I said I liked you. Second of all, I like you so much that I've expended one of my few daily super swipes that do what is. I like it. I always I always had good luck from the super swipes. Like if you, you know the toughest thing about going back on the apps? like when you're single again is that for me at least i don't take a lot of photos and so all the photos that i have are usually on my ex's phone oh and so it's like i'm i'm photoless like what am i give her a call see how it goes hey i'm trying to get pussy on this app can you send some of those i promise i'll put a smiley face over your head like this all your pictures like that forehead extension app

Yeah, and so you just have like very few photos. Just your face. Just your worst photos. You got nothing. Yeah, those are some, some horrid places, those apps. Caleb, what's your worst? I only have one of those apps for a little while. I didn't really have a lot of luck with it.

I'm not real good at talking to people on the device, to be honest with you. I like to talk to people in person, and I don't have enough, didn't really have enough time to, like, go in person to do stuff. So the experience that I had was in 2022. I became a single for the first time in my adult life. And I live with my best friends in the entire world, myself, my cousin Clint, who is him and I, by the way, he's a genuine fan of PKK. We watched PKK a lot growing up.

Oh, cool. Shout out Clint. Yeah, shout out Clint. And then Michael as well. We all live together. So we have this like Bachelor Pad And it's like this really fucking cool house In a really small town

It's like basically the coolest house In the entire city Town whatever So we were like Oh it's gonna be so easy And it was really It was very easy for just Michael Something about him

Is he hot He's he's a very attractive guy But I think it's because he can dance really well And all of his stuff on his thing Was that it was him of him dancing And But Every single person that I swiped on or whatever that also matched me had already talked to him.

And he had just run through them, basically. Not like in a physical sense necessarily, but run through means something specific. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they already have your address and they're like, eye maps history. It's like I would see them. I'd be like, oh, they were here or whatever. And I never had any luck. Yeah, exactly.

I never had any luck. And I really didn't, I didn't, I mean, I don't know. I'm just not super motivated by really anything other than like really, I don't know. I don't like being disappointed repeatedly by apps and shit and just things that, because the whole super like and the whole just you have to pay and it just, it becomes a whole of your attention. And it just feels very unhealthy and addictive. And I have an extremely addictive personality.

So I just do that to other stuff whenever I start to feel it. But so I never really had any good stories other than my, other than my friend already having swiped on and matched with everybody that I had even seen that was even remotely attractive. So yeah, it's a it's a sinister system. It is evil. It feels inherently evil, yes. It's cliche, but it was eye opening to me. It doesn't know the market that well. Everyone's thirsty, but for men, it's a desert and women, it's a swamp, right?

They have all the water they want, but it's all trash. Okay. Makes sense. Yeah, water, water everywhere, but not a spot to drink. Like, they're flooded with retards and idiots all day. And then all the women who should be picking up on those retards and idiots are getting swipes from guys four points on the scale above them who are just like, I can bust.

They think like, oh, clearly this, you know, whoever the guy who plays Thor is, oh, this looking guy is interested in. Bumble comes in. You know, Bumble used to be the one where the ladies had that, oh, is that the one lady swipe first? It's been so long. I think it's Bumble. Yeah, I thought it was Bumble. I don't think they do that anymore, but like, I love that. It's like, this is perfect. Instead of me spending a bunch of time, like, running through all, like, they'll come to me.

Like, it's beautiful. You just go in and the girls swipe on Tinder and Hinge, right? but the only way you ever match with anyone on Bumble used to be anyway was if they moved first which is a massive difference and I guess like I'm sorry I just processed it in my head like do they swipe on Tinder and hinge well they probably quickly have 1500 like notifications to go through so why are they actively hunting when they have all the people hunting them and I hated the text back and forth, like chit-chat. Because, believe it or not, my sense of humor is incredibly abrasive if you can't hear the intonation of my voice while I'm saying.

You seem like a dickhead. Seem like a real douche. I like that. I like that. You can copy and paste the same jokes to like eight of them at once. Like, if you do a parallel conversation across eight individuals and then slowly weave them out as you go, makes on their responses. Like, like, you can.

can really like, are you close to your dad? You want to be the Henry Ford of Tinder, all right? The Henry Ford of Tinder, dude. Okay. The Henry Ford of Tinder. Thank you so much. By that, I mean, if we fuck, I'll pay you a 40-hour work with you for it. Yeah.

Yeah, I never had any luck with any of that stuff, to be honest. Yeah, Henry Ford paid extra because his jobs were undesirable, making Kyle the Henry Ford of Tinder. Also, he got a medal from Hitler. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, they were big fans of one another. Well, what are you going to do, turn it down? He kept on his wall for years. Wait, I'm pretty sure that that was before that whole hullabaloo.

Did Henry Ford write the international Jew? Is that real? Yes, he did. Or my mixing that up with another... He either wrote it or he was like a big proponent of it. It was one of those. Wait, was it the internet? It was the Dodge Brothers, right?

It was like the whole kind of... I know about the metal and I think that Ford maybe made some trucks for them at some point or something like that. Was that in the name of it? The internet? F-150? Was it on the Jews in their lives? From what I've heard, or just basically... Oh, that was Martin Luther.

That was Martin Luther, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I believe that the Dodge Brothers, I mean, they were, I think, very proud. And like the origin of their business was Jewish. I think they had a star of David, I think. I could be completely making shit up. And their competition through and with Henry Ford, he obviously, there was a lot of anti-Semitism, clearly at the beginning of the 20th century.

And Henry Ford, I think he was pretty prolific in his writing of it, of his anti-Semitism. and I think he wrote a book called the International Jew, but I could be making stuff up. I could have dreamt it for all I know. I think you're right, yeah. He was like, hey, guys, is anybody else putting it together? Let me show you.

Zach, see if you'd find a picture of Henry Ford with his medal from Hitler. I bet it was a new game background a lot. I hate to say it, knowing Hitler, there's probably a good looking metal. Oh, yeah, right? It's Germany's Grand Cross of the German Eagle. It was approved by Hitler the highest honor Nazi Germany gave to foreign civilians.

The medal was presented to Ford on his 75th birthday by diplomats. It's controversial because Ford had a long history of anti-Semitic views and publications, especially through his newspaper, the Dearborn Independent. Hitler reportedly admired Ford, mentioned him in Mienkamp, and Ford's writing circulated in Germany during the rise of the Nazi movement. Ford later denied the medal meant he supported Nazism, but he did keep the award. Well, you know, hold on to it, you know.

I think Ford might have been a stinker. I mean, is that Ford in the middle? Yeah. He's not, he's a strong eyebrow, really. He's 75 there, you know. Looks like a fucking rule. Oh, 75. Fair enough.

Looks old. Looks pretty good for 75. He got to keep in mind. He was doing that Model T stuff in the early. early 1900s and you know this is the 40s by now or the late 30s at least 1938 that was pretty cool of him to do that 40 hour work week stuff he invented it yeah that's what i mean is we were i don't think it was cool though right it was frederick taylor involved in the full metal they uh they used to overwork the employees and they found they got less productivity out of them that's where the 15

minute break before and after lunch came from used to be employees to bring their own shovels but then employers started providing them with tools, not because they were kind, but because they were more effective with the perfect shovel. Sure, he was... Efficiency guy, but like that's still cool to normalize that because he was... Until then, people were like,

just work until they drop. That probably gets more done. And then he was like, no, we actually get more done if we keep people happy and, like, they have a home life and they show up, like, eager-ish instead of feeling like... slaves. But was that him or the unions? I don't know. It was him. Was it him? He normalized the 40-hour work week. Yeah. Yes, he did. It's his thing. He also, like, you know, Kingsford Charcoal,

that was Henry Ford's company before he sold it to whoever named it Kingsford, probably someone named Kingsford. Because what they were doing, the Model T's are made out of wood primarily, and so they'd have all these, like, burnt edges of wood in a big pile. They were thrown away, and Henry Ford's like, we could sell that, we could sell that garbage in the pile, put it in a sack, call it charcoal. And they did. That's king for charcoal. Well, I mean, it worked out. People did want to buy it. Still brand. Another fun business fact, you know the song Big John? Yeah. Every morning at the mind, you can see him arrive. He stood six foot six foot.

645. Got a roll with the shoulder. Yeah, and then there's Little Bitty Big John and then the one about the wife or whatever, the Cajun Queen. That was sung by Jimmy Dean of the sausage empire. Oh, really? Yes, sir. The sausage guy sings those songs? James Dean of the sausage empire. The first influencer product.

Oh, wow. Jimmy Dean. He sings Marie LeVoe, too? I don't know if he sings Marie LeVoe, you dirty witch. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I used to love that song. It's so interesting and bizarre. He's beyond for this music.

Country music, that's what it is. Contra music, come on now. You don't like country music, what do you do you? Actually, I've several times gone through country music kicks, just not old, old stuff. I'm more into the poppy country of the 90s and stuff. Brand new man.

Some books and done, Barth Brooks. Sure. I love Shania Twain. Let's go. Joe D. I want to say Messiah. Oh, Jody. It's a woman. Yeah.

Okay, this is good. This is all good stuff. Alan Jackson, Toby Keith. Mark Chestnut. You know him? Bubba shot the jukebox last night. His son played at my wedding. Oh my God.

That's great. Yeah. His son and Tristan Tritt, Travis Tritt's son, both played at my wedding. I really like Travis Trit. Dude, that's amazing.

I fucking, Travis Trit is my, my musical. His guitar playing is genuinely incredible. He's a, genuinely incredible guitarist. His voice is amazing. Yeah, and his voice, yeah, it's amazing, beautiful.

He's got some really good songs. My mom was a huge, it probably still is, Travis Tritt fan. She'd go to his concerts when I was really little, and she had like a whole collection of cassette tapes of Travis Trid and, I don't know, a bunch of other stuff. But Travis Trit, I think, was her favorite. I love Travis Trit. There's a live album from 2016

where it's just him and a guitar, and obviously he's, I mean, maybe late 50s or early 60s at that point. So he's, you know, he's had plenty of experience touring and everything. And his voice is kind of like this now. It's like a lot lower. But it's still insane. It's unbelievable how he, I mean, he's still extremely talented. And that whole album is him playing his original songs, but just him and a guitar,

no band, playing the guitar himself, singing and shredding, doing like solos and stuff. It's very, very, very awesome. He's a great dude. I was in like San Goody Records in 1992. And I really was just into this brand new man song by Brooks and Dunn. And I wanted to buy it. But I didn't know who sang it. I didn't even know the title of it.

So I go in the store and I find an employee and I ask for help. And I'm like, dude, this song is in my head. I love it. I need more of it. And I start singing, right? I saw the light. I've been baptized by the fire in your heart and the flame in your eyes. I'm born to love again.

I'm a brand new man. And he goes, yeah, I can't help you. I don't work here. That's good. Yeah, yeah. He's like, you're looking for country music in North Jersey. Get the fuck out of here. So that's funny.

Yeah, that was my whole childhood was definitely like that. like that Alan Jackson era of country music in the in the 90s and Chenaya Twain and Reba McIntyre and all that stuff. And then like I guess around the time I was like 12, like whenever I was homeschooled to me and my dad were just hanging out all day, literally every day. We would put it on like oldies. So like it was nothing but like 60s and 70s. Like it was like beach boys and shit. And I got really into that.

And then when Eminem came out, I fell away. And I got really into that because I'd never heard anything like that before because he was talking about just murdering people and raping his mother and just being super hardcore. And I was like, I want more of this. This is good stuff. Yeah, I had the same thing. Go ahead. Woody. Oh, I was going to say, like, I like rock, classic rock and stuff growing up.

But then as I became a young adult and started having like work and boss. and stuff. I just didn't want to be yelled at on my commute. It was like Metallica, fucking settled down. But then, you know, here's Alan Jackson. He wants to sing to me, and that's where I turn. I agree completely. When, uh, when my roommate would drive us to work some days, he would play Romstein. And I'm like, fuck, Ron. Haas. Do us. Oh, do us. No, no, don't. Dun, don't, don, don't, don't, don't. I'm like, bro, I just woke up. I haven't even. I haven't even. burn that shit off, dude. Like, like, I would really

rather have some easy listening first thing in the morning. Dude, I don't I've told this story before, but like, in terms of bad music, the Indian guys, I were, this dude made his own music. He'd use a program called Fruity Loops, and he was so proud of it.

But it was barely even musical. Like, he'd drop his keys on a desk and he'd get that, like, crash. And then it'd just be, like, a whole song that is a moniker. montage of this like higher pitches lower pitches and he drive me to lunch and I'm just like yeah we can't you got to stop it with the key dropping song what you guys get lunch at uh salsa fresh that was my thing I went out to lunch every day like when I worked as a grown up it's not

the most fiscally responsible thing but it was a mental health investment that's fair that's Fair. I like that. I like the purposeful like what is your intention behind going this place? Not because it tastes good necessarily, but it's just, this is good for my reign and it's worth it. And I understand the implication. Good.

We would always have it. The local businesses would come and give us these really, really good coupons for like their restaurant in the area. And we would live off those. They would give it to like one of us to distribute to everybody. I remember Arby's introduced their like market fresh sandwiches, which are like

The sandwich you make at home, but like really well made. And they were like $2 or something with our coupon. I'm like, we're not distributing this, buddy. Here, you can have some. Like I lived off Arby's Market Fresh sandwiches for like a month. And then like some noodle place named Mama Foods would come in. Same thing. Some person would come in from Mama Foods.

Here, could you pass these out? They give them to the lady behind the counter. I'm right there next to her. I'm like, yeah, I got you with those. I'm taking all those free noodles. I'm 19 years old. These are 40-year-old men. They can figure out lunch.

Like, I'm taking these noodles. I always like that. I always, I usually went out to lunch. I think the same thing. It just felt like a breath of fresh air. Like, like, you were so, like, punched over and grinding all day and to just step outside into, like, free air that wasn't on the clock air. Like, just, I needed a little bit of a break every day. Have you guys been to sheets?

Yes. No, what is that? So, Woody, are you Sheets or Wawa? Ooh, hard to go wrong. You're New Jersey, right? I think I'd say Wawa is my choice. The deli is unbeatable, but Sheets is top-notch. It's no dig on them.

I love Sheets so much. I feel like Sheets, if there was a Sheets equivalent in Texas, which I guess there's Buckees, but Sheets has like this kind of high-class deli. Your imagination, it becomes. real in cheats. That's how she feels. It's more of like a, like a, um, not an experience like Buckees,

like you're going to fucking Disney World or whatever, but it's a, it's a food imagination experience. It's what Kyle was describing. It is, yeah. Yeah, but like, barely. Yeah, the little Quickey Mart attached to it is as good as it can get.

Now, I know Buckees exists, but the, the fast food, like if you want to get a burger or something, dude, they fucking smoke other people's burgers. It's top notch. And more than that, like, everything's built to order. And so you just, like, punch it up on the computer.

And the service is so fast, you'd think it was ready before you got there. But they, obviously, since it's custom of it, they didn't. They, she's knocks out of the park. When I go on these motorcycle trips, she gets a priority. We used to call it shits, um, because we would just for some reason to make you shit for some reason, but, uh, probably because it's food and that's what food does. But the sheets, yeah, exactly. Classic food thing.

It's called MTO. It's called MTO, which is made to order. Their coffee, they have their own coffee. They used to at least make their own bread. And you could go in there and get like a fried chicken sandwich with pickles mayo, like a classic fried chicken sandwich. And then you could go in the next day and get a fried chicken sandwich with marinera sauce and mozzarella sticks on it. Or you can get like a meatball sandwich. with like french fries on it you could you could do whatever you want at sheets it reminds me

almost it scratches the same itch as like a video game and kind of a sort of a weird way where it's just like you're you can you can get what you want and generally you'll be satisfied like when you were hitting up sheets what was your goofy sandwich the atomic the atomic the atomic mozzarella sandwich i think it's i think it's an actual one they have it's like a chicken fried chicken sandwich with marinera and mozzarella sticks That sounds fantastic. That was the best one. It's fucking good, dude.

Yeah. Yeah. And their mozzarella sticks are great, too. I mean, like, just their random fried sides. I never had a salad there because I don't, you know, I'm not, I'm not a gambler. That's the fuck. But it's good for the, it's good for the mind to have like a unique, satisfying food experience. Not just if food is good, but like going somewhere and just getting out and especially

if it's just the same old shit every fucking day, dude. It is. And you got to avoid those salads. You know, you hear what those farmers are spraying on the vegetables. My God. Not for me. I got an orphanage. I got Arfitt when it comes to salad.

I keep wondering, what's your top seller? What is it? What's the biggest, the most popular thing that candy you sell? Oh, we don't really. So it would be our blue raspberry just because it's like a classic. classic candy flavor. But since we do four new flavors every single month, the velocity of the heroes kind of keeps up with all the other flavors. So like on a monthly basis, we, we sell all skews essentially within 10% of each other. But historically, the, you know, the stuff that's

been around longer will obviously sell more. We don't have anything that is like a stinker. Actually, I take that back. We have pumpkin pie belts that we still have that we launched in October. That doesn't sound very much. That doesn't sound good. Pumpkin pie. I loved them. Belts?

Yeah, liquorish belts. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. They actually, there's no cold ones. No wonder. Do we know?

No cold ones? Yeah, the Australian guys who do the podcast where they drink. Yeah. Yeah, they're awesome. They just reviewed the candy and they

had the pumpkin pie belts. I was like, Oh, fuck, but they gave it an eighth year. I was hoping they liked it, so it was good. But yeah, to answer your question clearly and concisely, blue raspberry. Okay. This is the American standard.

Really? Gotcha. Yeah. I would have been wrong on the consumer prediction. I would have thought like a lemon lime. Something like that would be. Yeah, I would have thought cherry or strawberry. Strawberry is.

It's rainbow is the number. number one, generally speaking, but we don't offer a rainbow in that kind of style. Blue raspberry is the most popular. Green apple is up there, strawberries up there. Are we talking about all licorice when we say this? These are sour gummies. We have like these little things called little guys. This is grape, kiwi, lemon, blackberry.

That's what this flavor is. I think of that. Throwing like six bags of those. Did you ever think about the like Delta 8 gummy? business? It must have crossed your mind. I mean, it had to. Yeah, a little bit, but I don't really, I don't really like, I don't really like pot or shit like that. So I don't really do. I don't, I wouldn't want to endorse it. You don't want to be that guy, the suppliers. I would definitely endorse it if someone wanted to do it, but I wouldn't want to just be,

I wouldn't be able to be like, buy my fucking weed shit, you know, and that's what I would want to do. I would want to be able to promote it like that. So you're not a user. So you, you, you, you and be able to enjoy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if I was a user, I would. I would sell this shit out of it. I think Woody's the one who taught me that raspberry flavoring comes from

the glands of a beaver or something like that. Yeah, and the beaver butt somewhere, right? Yeah. I thought that was vanilla. No, vanilla beans from vanilla bean. Yeah, the plant. I thought it was the artificial vanilla is derived from the glands of a creature.

It very well could be because I do. know that like I said that Raspberry is from like Beaver butthole glands. I don't say it like that. What? Ours is for Rassberries. It's got a fucking pee in it. You know

it does. Yeah, it's raspberry. It comes from the scent glands of Beaver's near the base of their tail, but not the butt itself, but close enough for the meme. Imagine being the frontiersman who figured that out and having to go back to camp and like

I swear to God, brothers, try it. And they're like, you're a fucking weird. And that's raspberry flavor? Yeah. It's definitely raspberry. I'm asking, okay, here's the list. Raspberry,

vanilla, and sometimes caramel can come from this. Jesus. How was it cheaper to milk the beaver's asshole than to melt sugar? Yeah. When Caleb's doing, knowing he's a, you know, candy giant, I was like, I'm not going to tell him he's wrong.

I'm going to look into it. I don't know. Yeah. I'm full of shit. no you're making of raspberry are we actively milking beavers somewhere we are

someone is some guy's clocking in every morning another day I picture more of a prostate massage I picture him is like that guy sitting on the back of his truck that yellowstone picture being like out here we take pride in our work we milk beaver but holes

I picture them hiring people in fingers. I saw a skeleton of a beaver on the internet recently and it made me think we're probably not getting all these dinosaur instructions entirely correct because if you look at the beaver tail it's all fluff and nonsense other than what looks like like if we found beavers like just the skeleton and they weren't a thing, we would have made them

some goofy looking nonsense. And that made me think, like, yeah, I don't think we're doing a good job with these dinos, which lends to my theory, they didn't have feathers. No matter what we discovered, they didn't have feathers. They found the feathers. Oh, they found feathers from 65 million years ago? Yeah, they got soft tissue from 65 million years ago.

They do have soft tissue from that long ago. And you can, I don't know about feather. I thought they were more feathered than what I learned recently. Well, no, it has to die and get, like, coated in, like, molasses or something like that that, like, quickly freezes in that situation. Something that, like a, what's the word for anaerobic, I think, when there's no oxygen. There has to be no oxygen in the area for bacteria to breed, to rot the flesh, and then soft tissues can fossilize. Yeah, I still think we're getting it wrong. Have you seen a poke skull?

A what skull? What skull? Pug skull? Like from a pug dog? Yeah, it's sad. Yes. That shit's crazy. I saw a thing recently.

They had the dinosaur tail, like kind of fossilized, but they had the tissue in the stuff. And what it had on it were pretty close to porcupine quills. And they were like really coated in these porcupine quills. To the point where they thought it provided some warmth for the animal as well as defense. Yeah, they were feathered, dude. I think it's cool. I believe everything at the science. people tell me. But I also, I feel like it's a lot of it just seem, they just seem like

they just kind of make it up a little bit because they're always like changing stuff as well, which I understand that's the fucking scientific process. I fucking get it. But also like I'm allowed to, as an idiot, be like, why are you always changing shit? I thought fucking raptors were big as fuck. I watched Jurassic Park. Steven Spielberg, Liddeby. Oh my God. The raptor, that should be in the archaeological records. The great raptor rug whole. They tell us that they're sick and awesome. And then it's like, now these things were like bitch-ass chickens.

A Mormon Raptor. It's the Velociraptor is a size of a turkey, apparently. The Utah Raptor, like you mentioned, was big. It was like four feet tall or five feet tall or something. The biggest is the Hollywood Raptor. That one was over seven foot. Yeah, that one can detect when you're hiding in those kitchen cabinets. It's an open drawers.

Yeah. Open doors. Has that weird? It's a little. Dooms. Have you seen that? They're all like, this raptor could open door. Both of my dogs open doors.

They let themselves out constantly. Yeah, it's not that hard. And whatever that actor's name is, when he was being just mean to that kid. Yeah. Where he was like, I think you're wrong. These things weren't covered in feathers. And he's like, this thing would tear you groin to neck. Fuck you.

And it's like too hard. I think he might have was quoted him a little. of it. I thought he did say that. Stuck my dick. I took my dick, you little pussy. That's Sam Neal. No, I like that scene. See, that seems important. I love those movies. And you probably know this, but that seems so important because that's how he is with kids at the beginning of the movie. And the first scene, you go to the final scene of the movie. You're right. The kids are snuggled up to him on the helicopter. He is bonded with the kids. He's become a family man. A moral story. Yeah, you got a little character. And those kids were pretty remarkably well adjusted after watching that, like, lawyer get Oh, they're going to be fucking the toilet. Donosol.

Yeah. I like the old old white guy. Colonel Sanders guy. Donald Saul. I used to, when I was a kid and I watched that, I would get, like, scared for Newman as he was getting out of that car. And I'd be like, don't get out of the car. He's going to spit on you.

And then it would spit on him. and in my head I thought it was like a flesh dissolving acid yeah like I didn't realize it was just like a squid ink thing what are those things called the Loposaurus Dolfsaurus you got it you big guy or what he's a big I wouldn't say big I think you're interesting but he believes everything big Dino tells him anytime anybody tells me anything now I don't fucking believe them

true I'm the same way I I I check so much. It's kind of rude. The, not to, not to derail the conversation, but, uh,

the book, the Jurassic Park book, Michael Crichton is so fucking good. It is the only book I've ever read where I was sort of scared a little bit, reading it. Something about dinosaurs is like, there must be, I must have fought one at some point in a past life.

Not really, obviously, probably not. Probably not. Never say never. Really? The, the,

The part with the Raptors in the book is like a thousand where they realize that they're breeding. It's so much better than in the movie. And like they just did such a good job Michael Crichton. May God rest of soul. All right. I don't like any of the sequels. Like literally none of them. They never made this sequel that I wanted.

They sort of touched on it in one of them where you had the big game hunters were going to the island to kill dinosaurs. That's the whole movie for me, though. I don't need scientists at all. I want the big game hunters to be about them and it to be kind of like predator, where they're all hardcore game hunters. And they, oh, I killed a lion on the Serengetti charged me. It took him down five feet from me. And the other guy's like, oh, yeah, well, I killed a Siberian tiger.

He weighed 1,200 pounds. And then they get to the dino island and they get, you know, they lose their gear immediately, of course, in the plane crafts. And they've got to go a little primitive. and it's more of a, I want a horror. I don't want the connecting to childhood and the kid-parent relationship, rigmarole. None of that. I want grown men fighting dinosaurs on a dino island.

And they don't know why they're a dino. Is this that island? The third one was that a little bit. A little bit. But there's too much of the like the kids. I never liked that. He's like a little survivalist. Yeah, he's like a survivalist in the third one.

Remember a little boy who survived. He collects the T-Rex P or the Spinosaurus or T-Rex P, I guess. I remember it. They advertised it as a non-stop thrill ride of a movie, which sounded good and it made me go see it. And then I watched it and I was like, oh, it turns out if it's just non-stop action, actually action becomes boring. Yeah. Yeah. But one is a non-stop.

It's kind of hard to replicate after the first one. Like, I think those, the CGI still kind of holds up. They melt GGI with like a puppet. It's silly to call it. a puppet when it's the size of a Tyrannosaurus. An animatronic. An animatronic. Yeah, and they do a really good job of cutting between the two

at the right times. Stephen's door's got a new movie coming out. That's all. All right, hang on. What is that? Play anatronic. From where? It's the mascot for our candy company. That's awesome. Is that a possum or it's a rat, right? It's a possum, yeah, it's a possum.

Oh, okay. Wow. He's helping. He's terrifying. Yeah, it's such a brave choice. Yeah, we, uh, yes, maybe not, maybe not the, we don't do a lot of smart things, generally speaking. That's right. Right.

I see it. I see it. Yeah. I stick my hand up his little ass and I go, brah. People love it. Yeah. The R&D guys at Johnson of John and Johnson would have, you know, steered you away from that. Yeah, they would 86 that.

We think it should be kind of a friendly type. No. I want that shit to be scary and fucking nightmarish. No, I want horrible whiskers on it. The Sorry, what were you saying? I was going to say the new Steven Spielberg movie

because we mentioned the Jurassic Park thing. It's called Disclosure Day. Just about to mention that. Say the movie again. It's called Disclosure Day. And it's about the, I think it's, I don't watch trailers and I don't like spoilers, but I think based on the title

and the like two seconds of trailer I've seen, it's about the government admitting that they're extraterrestrials. It's an alien, like, modern-day sci-fi movie. All the reviews that I've seen are saying, like his best movie in 20 years or something like that. I'm pretty psyched for it. And aliens are hot right now.

Yeah, they're how popular right now, dude. You know, Trump's talking about releasing, you know, alien files or something. Fox News ran a story the other day based on something that some congressman said about the four or maybe five different alien races that we have recovered from crafts and they have a photo of each of them, a cartoon sort of animate, they're the reptilians, the insectoids, the nords

which looked like Icelandic men, but seven feet tall, and the standard gray. Were you mistaking the Skyrim intro for news again? I'm telling you what it was on Fox News. The Nords are going to dominate Twitter.

They will. These aliens show up and they look like Swedish guys. and they're all six, eight. I'm going to be like, we need to get rid of these guys. More like fervent than Taylor on aliens and deporting. It's that old meme where they're like, if all the immigrants coming in were giant-titted, big booty Latinas,

we'd have women forming an SS unit. You mentioned in passing Predator. That movie is incredible. showed my wife, Predator for the first time recently, and she loved it. I was very glad. She's like really, she's such a great person to watch movies with,

especially movies that I speak like very highly about. She tries to like really get into it and understand it and just like lock out. It's awesome. So it's like she gets me to watch movies again, really, because I have kind of, I don't know, I just fucking, I have like an animal brain really. And she's very much able to focus. and kind of keep her day more organized than I'm able to.

So like at the end of the day, we'll usually choose to watch some kind of movie. And we watched Predator last week. And it was so good. It slows up. It's such a good movie. And you've got Dylan and fucking the Carl Weathers or I guess, yeah, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Carl Weathers and Jesse Ventura. Shexerl Dairinosaurus. Got Shane Black in there.

I love that movie. movie. Much of slack yard faggots. Yep. So my mom calls me. Dude, I've seen, I watch it maybe six times a year, seven times a year.

Wow, that's awesome. I watch it a lot. That's cool. I love that movie. It's one of my favorite movies of all time. I think it's kind of a perfect movie. The performance is so good. Really good for a bunch of meatheads.

The, the monster's scary. Like, like, and I just love the testosterone fest. Even Billy. Like, I forgot about Billy somehow. big Native American fucker. That guy's a giant in real life. Like all those characters just stuck together in that jungle. I love that movie.

So good. And the First Terminator as well is so good. It's a horror movie. It's so good. It's terrifying. It's actually scary. Yeah, it's a slasher. It's, you know, Arnold's basically stuck.

When he, when there's a little, there's like a fire explosion in the alley after the nightclub shootout and he gets his eyebrows and a lot of his hair singed off. He's goolish. He looks really scary. The long slide with the laser. He goes in the gun store scene is so funny too. The long slide. Do I have a 40-white laser? Yeah. You can't do that, buddy. Wrong.

That's great. I love all the guns. We need a new Arnold. It made no sense for him to need like an Uzi 9mm. And a fucking S-12 shotgun. And the long slide 1911, the whistle and all that shit, the laser sighting. Like, it's a 30-year-old white woman. She's a waitress. Like, go snap her neck like a chicken.

Like, what are you doing? Who do we even have that could be a new Arnold? We don't have any jacked Austrians or Eastern Europeans. No Dolph Lundgren. No Arnold. Well, you've got, you've got big boy that plays Reacher. He's like the biggest, like, guy who does stuff. Oh, you specifically want an option?

He can sing really well, though. That's, like, not cool. He's too good at stuff. That's gay. All these actors are gay behind the scene. He's just like, they're all pretty gay. Yeah, I want a, I want like the dude who is so simple, bodybuilder, extremely well organized, invests in property,

and just becomes the governor of California. Oh. Marries a Kennedy. Literally Arnold Schwarzen. Find the biggest. of it. The closest thing is Chris Pratt unloading box trucks in Poland right now.

And then just fast track. Chris Pratt is not close. He married to Kennedy. I didn't know that, but wow. Yeah, yeah. It's the body fat. I can't get past. You know, I watch this guy and I'm like, is this you getting in shape for a role? Good golly. You're not even close.

I like that he seems very nice personally. Like, seems like a good, hearted, nice guy. but that isn't good for like a brutal action hero you want someone with a little little more mustard little bite it's not coming there needs to be clips like that oh you know Arnold's doing like a resurgence of like sequels to his old like biggest hits is he is pretend like that's not true though

they're making King Conan which I am hyped for I love the idea of King Conan Conan the Colan the Colan the Barbarian movies are so fucking fun, so silly and campy, and they're finally going to do King Conan, which is about an older King Conan, as you would imagine, but he's sort of like tired of ruling,

he's not very good at it, and he's got all these young hotshots kind of aiming at him and his throne. They seem as weak now, and I'm all for it. I'm all for that version of Arnold. Yeah. Looking forward to that.

The art style that informed Conan, the Conan universe, from Frank Frisetta. That is like that I don't really like art but I love art obviously but I don't really I'm not like super inspired by art

but I've got a Frank Frisetta fucking mouse pad I have like every single book with all of his works in it and stuff that I just every now and then I just look at it just for it inspired the visuals of all fantasy like for decades the inventor of dark fantasy

basically. He was just so I'm remembering correctly because I feel like I know Frank Frisette. He was the guy who like made all those dope album covers for like Mega Death where it's a jacked dude with a sword and a loin cloth like stabbing a dragon

Like like damsel in distress like hanging on to his thigh like on the ground And like like like tits out Here we go I bet he's got a little Artwork right here If that's what he was doing I'm pro Frank Frietta that guy rocks Oh literally

Yeah literally what we're talking about Can you full screen Zach? It's my favorite painting of all times It's called The Brain it's a Frank Frizetta painting my wife got she contracted his son to repaint it for me

on this canvas it is one of my prize possessions that's incredible he's insanely inspirational just with like the way things look in all the things that I love it's pretty much because of him

I just like when Arnold punches that camel out yeah I love it when he punches the alien. This guy has the coolest art style of all time. I just looked up like Rosetta just to see. It's a jackdude saber holding a naked woman behind him while he's about to fight a saber-toothed tiger. It's just it's what I would have thought as peak art when I was eight.

And I still do at 35. That's why Arnold is perfect. Arnold is Conan. Is that Frank Frisetta? This is Frank Frizzetta. This is my mouse pad. These are just frogs on the moon. Sick. I would hate it there.

I know, exactly. They would fucking get it there, dude. They just fly back to Earth. Gone. Can't rib it up there. Yeah, and Arnold, especially during the Conan days, was enormous.

Like, I think he lost muscle mass so he could do the sword work. And he, And he's still just hulking. And like, I even like, I like montages, especially as a kid. I've always loved the hero montage, how he went from broken and beaten down to the Goliath he is, and now the movie can start. I love those montages.

And Conan's montages, they put him on like, God, what is it called? They put him on this wheel, basically, that grinds grain that you would normally have oxen-like turning, and they show him as a child. He's pushing the wheel just in a circle. and then they just show time passing and all the other kids die until it's just Arnold Schwarzenegger solo pushing the giant wheel

and like that alone has given him the physique of Arnold Schwarzenegger and it's like I don't know if that's accurate kind of one punch man backstory Yes or like old boy or something like that He just done one thing in the whole life Yeah Arnold's physique was so fucking good

In that movie it's I just like looking at Arnold But Wilk Chamberlain makes him look small. I think that's Wilk, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he absolutely does. He lay pipe. He's known for that. Yeah.

I've seen that picture of Wilk Chamberlain and Andre the Giant. Andre the Giant holding Arnold up. And like, Willett Chamberlain is jacked. But then you see like whatever physical deformity made, Andre, what he was, where it's like, that guy's standing like angled back. And he's as wide as any two large. people that have ever stood. Like, you can see, like, his hands.

They don't even make sense. The guy's just a freak. Like, he's had some genetic shit problem. Good God. Yeah, and Will Chamberlain's huge, but he's not, like, when Mignon, as much as I praise the progress he's made in his muscle development is still light years from what I'm looking at here. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's a, look at how big his arm is for, for, for, for, he's a he's a gigantic human being look at his skull I think Will Chamberlain could beat up Andre yeah I do too Andre would win in arm wrestling

maybe or something but Will Chamberlain is also a professional athlete with all the agility and dexterity that comes with it I don't think Arnold's an professional wrestler yes which is an entertainer yeah well but they have to do like flips and okay there's physicality but I don't

think Andre could pull off a good looking somersault. Walt Chamberlain looks like a like normal human who's genetically gifted. Andre looks like he could crush peanuts into oil in his hand because he's a like he's, there's something up with him. Like he's not normal. It's crazy. I know forced perspective and stuff.

It's not exactly right. But dude, the top of Wilt Chamberlain's head and And Andre's head look roughly comparable. Will Chamberlain is standing up as tall as he can for the photo op that ogre on the right has his knees bowed. Eh, a little maybe. But the difference in head sizes, like his chin starts at Wilts Chamberlain sternum and ends at the same time at the top of the head roughly. I know Wilts farther, but yeah, huge head on Andre. I think Andre would do well.

I feel like beating him up would be like trying to knock out track. Like he's just, he's an ogre. No way. Look at the size of their hands. Wilty's seven foot one. Do we have any more pictures of these guys, Zach? I see the one, but I want more.

No, Andre would fuck him out. Look how lean wilt is compared to Andre. Andre's got that power. Wilt could bench press. Look at that. You're telling me. That's insane. Look at Wilk Chamberlain's hand and then look at Andres.

Willet Chamberlain a hundred times out of a hundred. It's not even close. One of them is a professional athlete. The other is a freak of nation. This isn't a pie eating contest, right? Like this is an athletic competition. A little Rocky 5 quote there. How much professional fighting experience does Wilmchamberland have?

But wasn't the same amount as Andre? Any wrestle? It's the same amount. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. But one of them is a professional athlete, and not just a professional athlete, one of the greats who has like crazy feats of strength to his name, apparently his bench press is 500 pounds, and the other is Andre the Giant, a guy notoriously in constant back pain, essentially

handicapped. Like, come on, it's not even close. Wilk Chamberlain would beat both of them to death in secession. And then he'd lay a lot of pipe right after. And then he, yes, and then he, he fuck a rear driver in half. You guys are underestimating, like, inherent growth defects. Like, this guy's strong as fuck. He's just invincible because of how dense he is.

He's like gastronal distress. Did I pronounce that right? His belly hurts in that. Gastrointestinal distress. That's not going for. I shouldn't help you. You're against me. He's a bad back, a bad digestive system.

He's probably half drunk right there. He's just the opposite of, well, I was going to say the opposite of a physical specimen, but that's not the phrasing I really need. You think if Andre gets a healthy man. You think if Andre gets one hand on any human, they're going to do well? Yeah, Will Chamberlain would not have a problem with Andre's grip. He didn't go through puberty. He fossilized in an environment. He should have feathers like a dinosaur.

Big fuck. If Will Chamberlain, you had a kick. Can you imagine the lethal, the lethality that he was possessed? He's like John Jones times two. Not team Andre. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's an incredible build.

Didn't Andre the Giant die when he was like 21 or something? No, he was older. Oh. But he was broken down. He was an alcoholic and he was, he did have like continuous back pain and like maybe infused stuff in his spine and stuff. Like by the end, he couldn't really wrestle. he was still wrestling, you know, like in that picture probably.

But he was still throwing Hogan around. He wasn't, though, at all. It was, you know, in the early days he was. You guys are just underestimating, underestimating Andre the Giant. I don't think you've even seen that WrestleMania or watched the numerous documents. I don't watch wrestling. I'm in the adult. Call out.

I mean, I hate. Call out. You know that. But if you're going to hate something properly, you have to, you get to take the what Henry Ford did. Okay. Oh shit. Start writing the Dover Journal. I just, I'm blown away.

You're like, here's two seven foot two guys. One of them has acromegaly and enough strength to crush a cantalope into juice. And the other one's really good at basketball. I wonder how it would happen if they fought. He's not just really good at basketball. I've never seen a human being that looks like him. He's seven foot one with a bicep that looks like it's 40 fucking inches. It looks like a fat guy.

None of this is. ripping on Wilk Jainville at all. I think he's, I think he's lightning fast compared to, to Andre. I think that his strength is comparable, and I think that in any sort of... Andrew would be like a soul's boss, where he's

he'd be projecting those punches. He's going to pause inexplicically. Your dodge is off. Even when you dodge, he somehow finds the way... What year was that picture taken? It would be during the filming of

own end, the barbarian. So let me see when that. I thought that was near the end of Andre's kind of, you know, not being so ate up. That's 82, roughly. And when was Princess Bridemaid? Because I know he's in bad help then. They have that, like, he has such a big,

deep back of throat. Like a really crazy voice, too. So this is 82. That picture is from roughly 81, 82. By 85, 86, he, he, he's so broken down that Kerry Yule's or whatever his name is can't even jump on his back anymore.

He can't lift the girl. There's a scene where he's supposed to hold that girl Robin Wright, and he can't. And she's like a 110-pound woman. That's how weak he is four years after that photo. Apparently, Andre the Giant used to do like stunts where they would do tug of war, but they wouldn't even let him hold it.

They would just tie him like a beast. around his wrists and then they'd have like five men on the other side. Five brans. Five wrestlers. And then he'd be like you can't pull me and then just walk backwards. He would do, I think

he was from France, right? He was. I mean, everyone has faults. I just remember watching a documentary about him and like some of his early life. It wasn't like circus stuff, but it was like he was doing performance like stuff based on his size and strength. I remember that.

You know, they shouldn't have ever put him in that Tarzan outfit. Oh, really? I think that not the singlet with the like yabidabado do time. Well, because like every time I see it, it's like

that that strap is holding on for dear life. What else do you put him in? Yeah, I guess he can't wear like normal pants. Hogan would come out in those briefs, you know, like, like, Hogan looks like a little baby every time I've seen clips of him and Andre out there. See, that's crazy.

Hogan is like 6'7 legit and like, like, yeah, like high 200 pounds or something like that. Like he's a giant in his own right. I just watched the Hogan documentary on Netflix. Are you sure is 6-7 legit? They would advertise him at 6-9. And throughout the show they mentioned his height a few times. And 6-7 was like the lowest number they used, so I went with that one. and apparently andre the giant was known for being not chill with other wrestlers where they'd be like hey Andre i know

you're supposed to hurt me tonight but let's you know do wrestling and he'd be like what are you talking about and then he'd just like actually hurt them i know he'd get mad about the oil he was like uh i can't remember they you know they'd always greased themselves up their shiny and he's like yelling at his opponent in the bag no oil no oil like he doesn't want to get it on him or whatever. He was very tactually sensitive. He couldn't.

He's over stimulated. He doesn't like feeling. I don't know. I've seen him hold those beer cans and it's hilarious. Have you heard the story about it's a macho man talking to Jake the snake

about they're about to do a match and macho man's worried? I have not. So Dan Soder does all the voices perfectly. So it's like you're there. but basically macho man is like, is that snake fixed? What are you talking about?

Is it fixed or not? Maybe it's been fixed and maybe it ain't, but it's gonna bite you before we go out there. And Jake the snake is like, well, all right. Let the snake bite me on the arm. And don't be pulling it away or sneaking no way in a dope. So they sit there. Sneaking it like it's a pokey.

on game sneaks an antidote. And so like they sit there for a while and like, oh right. Seems like you're telling the truth. Because he's like worried that like the snake was a venomous snake that was going to kill him. Because what Jake the snake does when they get out there, he gets you like tied up in the ropes. He gets your arms like wrapped up in them so you can't move. And you of course you pretend like you're like,

oh, I can get out of this. And then he gets the snake. You can really undo the knot. He gets the snake out. gives it a smack on the mouth and then sticks it to you. And you can watch the old videos and the snake is chewing on these guys. It'll get them and it's just bang, bang, bang, bang, like massaging them with snake bites basically.

And they're bleeding and screaming in the ropes and like, that's Jake the snake. It's great stuff. Wrestling used to be cool. They couldn't do that now. I never watched any of it ever. I haven't either. I haven't either. ECW maybe once.

Is that one? Yeah. It is. I watched a tiny bit when I was a kid, but it was never my thing. I have a would you rather I thought was interesting.

Oh, literally what the exact thing I'm talking about. Yeah. Damn. My dad said it was fake and I just didn't get it after that. I was like, people like this?

Same thing. All right, I'll start with you, Caleb. Would you rather stay home and be lazy but order anything off Amazon and it's free or go outside and earn a dollar a step. I'd really go outside and earn a dollar a step. Yeah.

All right. So, okay. That's his... Is this a one day? A one day limitation? No, no. It's every single day you can do this. I thought about it.

Are you locked in to one or the other forever? Yeah. 10,000 steps a day is not that big a deal. And $10,000 a day is a pretty sweet income. Yes. but yes it is amazon sells gold amazon sells like 30,000 dollar excavators i could easily set up like undercut your local excavator dealers wholesaler like the supplier and just like oh like what do you buy them for buying for 30 sell them for 35 i'm going to sell you ecuators at 25 random

static Amazon pricing throughout this endeavor. It'll always be higher than free. The amount of time it would take to convert those things to money, I feel like it would just be worth. I feel like it would still be worth just gold.

It's clear that's the Amazon is my answer. The Amazon. Amazon is so much more money. Like you just look at the most expensive things on Amazon and realize you get an unlimited supply of that or until the supply wears out, I guess. And it's like, shocks. You could make huge wealth off Amazon

and it's not that much work to resell big ticket items. I don't need more than $20,000 a day. And I would rather not be locked in the house. So I would take the steps. It doesn't need more than $20,000 a day. Who could possibly need money? Ever since the little chamberl and stuff. No, I'm going to force you.

Because every single day that you're doing the Amazon thing, you're also locked in your house. I can't leave for any reason. No. That's the hypothetical is that you're supposed to be ordering everything that's a necessity for your life from Amazon. Another way to phrase it is like, would you rather be able to order everything to your house for free or be able to leave your house and get money? Let's see the wording on that. Because if it's not that way, then it's not that way. It's a stupid question.

If you can just leave your house anyway and walk around and also make more money, then obviously you would pick the more money out. I hear you. The problem with the AM and all the things required at least a little bit of entrepreneurial spirit. Like I get it. Free goods are not that hard to resell. Like, but at least you do have to sell them on Amazon.

Right? Yeah, I guess so. I'm telling you, I'm good. No. They sell Rolexes on Amazon. They sell.

Yeah, $2,000, Unless the locked in the house allowed out of the house thing is part of it, then it's a stupid hypothetical because you would just pick the one that makes more money. It has to be locked in versus allowed outside. And in that condition, or that hypothetical, I'm taking just like Caleb, the 20,000 steps a day outside. For me, one's like jacking off and ones like sex. Yeah. Both are. One's not real, you know? For me, I've just, I'm working. I'm working. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm I'm outside. I'm getting my 30,000 steps and I'm feeling good. I'm fucking, I've got a little

pep and I know that I'm feeding my family. All right. Yeah. That feels good. I agree. I think the hypothetical needs to be expanded a little bit more. If the situation is that you're locked in your house forever, getting basically a free money glitch versus every step you take in the world, you get, what is it, $1,000, $10,000 a step. A dollar a step, which is $10,000 a day easily. I would take that one. I would take the dollar a step because then your life can be just spent

outside doing adventurous bond. I disagree with Taylor. I don't think stay home and be lazy was meant to literally be house arrest. It doesn't say that. It just says would you rather get anything off Amazon without effort or earn it a dollar a step?

If you're literally on a house arrest and you can't leave your home then that kind of ruined your life. But otherwise, it's a bad hypothetical because there's no tradeoff to taking the free money order. There has to be a downside to the obviously more lucrative side, which is the Amazon thing. The downside to the Amazon thing is it's not giving you cash. It's giving you the things. That's not true.

If you want a yacht, if you want yourself like a $10 million yacht, then you need to be an entrepreneur to turn that free good into cash. And I understand what you're saying, but it does not... I'll go on a walk. To me, and I see Kyle nodding and Caleb agreeing, but like, if it isn't the, every time you order off Amazon, you're locked in the house, like, then it's not a good hypothetical. Because then anyone can be like, oh, yeah, I'll just order the more money thing and then go for a walk. You got to close the loopholes on these hypotheticals or I'm always just going to find a way to win, you know, if I've got my free money glitch with Amazon, then my house will suddenly become. my estate and I'll buy a town or something like that. I'll buy a, you know what I mean?

Yeah, like, give me a short rope and a rickety stool and hang. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, you're going to make your house a town. Yeah. You can do what the Jews do in New York where you tie strings around the light posts. And then you're like, well, it's technically inside. Jesus isn't looking. Well, they wouldn't care about that.

God's not looking. He burns and shit. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that guy. They really dislike him. Yeah, for me, since I'm the guest, I'd say, no, I think, like, if it was a, if this is a real scenario and someone legitimately asked me right now, this is real, you stay inside. And the caveat is as simple as it's just inconvenient to move the stuff. I would just, I would want to just walk, I feel like.

That would just be good because there is a, you would have an in, you. You would have a... You still walk, though, if you want. I know, but you would have a correlative relationship with... If you need money, if you need that animal part of your brain rewarded, you have to do something at least healthy somewhat. I feel like for my mind, it would be a better life for me. And it'd be an easy choice.

I could wait way more money by reselling Rolexes, right? And I think it wouldn't be too hard to set up a relationship with the jeweler who does that or something. And Kyle had this idea of reselling on Amazon. I get that. But it doesn't do much for my mental health. It just makes me a slave to wages and yada, yada, yada. But the walking is a bit of a slavery too. I mean, it sounds great, right?

At a 10,000 step walk until it's miserable out, until it's winter. And it's miserable for stretches of time. Like walking might be a pain in the ass too. What? You expect me to live on less than $3 million a year? Come on. I mean, I just, and I like where Caleb's is that with this.

Like it would incentivize you to be outside. Dude, I would, I would walk 30,000 steps to my closest culvers and then walk 30,000 steps back. And I'm like, I'm burning both of these butterburgers off. It's negated, completely. Completely to begin. I made $60,000. You just made $60,000. I ate two entire double butterburger meals.

That's crazy. And I'm burning them off. Perfect. They sell sports memorabilia on Amazon. You can get a Babe Ruth signed baseball here. You could very quickly make millions of dollars a day with very little effort. And all you got to do is if you don't want to do the effort of clicking for an hour a day, you could hire someone to click for an hour a day,

which is what it would cost to sell these items that you have. You don't need the drop ship. Meanwhile, these guys have learned to walk in baby steps. This would be if it would wrap the box. run. It would very rapidly become like a, an addiction, though, if you were doing the Amazon thing, where now you're sitting rotting away in a chair, doing all this, you know, buy this, sell that, buy this, sell that. No, but you'd be doing it constantly because any second you weren't doing it, you'd be thinking I could be making money.

I'm making $14 million a day at my walking desk while you jog around. outside. Like an idiot. How I know you wouldn't get a walking desk is you don't have one. Who wants one? Who wants one? I've got one.

I feel like Taylor's done this. The clicking is going to get addicting to make $14 million a day. But the walking is not remotely addictive. I won't feel like I'm waking up every day, 10,000 steps behind schedule. That's not going to. That's what it would be.

You're going to be healthier doing the walking thing. You'll be objectively healthier. The idea that you're going to stand there and walk. I'll hire a new truck while you're buying all this is high-handed hoity tooty nonsense. You would not. You'd be sitting in exactly the same chairs you are now doing this and being like, hey, I just bought out the entire supply of gold chains. And then I bought out the entire supply of silver chains.

And then I bought out and then you'd be before you know it, because you'd be ruining the market for all this shit, you would be buying horseshit. You'd be buying nonsense. I'd be debiers. I'd be controlling the market for all this shit. it. Remember when

Bastille bought all of the 32 caliber ammo and Tarkov that time or whatever? Oh,

I bought every copy. Did it with the Salae was or something? The health packs? He did it a couple times.

One time it was with Oh, on guys, I just bought every single available copy of Duncan checks in. I need to try

and I got to move these, bros. A little bit of coin. Your house would be a mess. Why do you be able to store all?

These are crazy like short-sighted assumptions to think that my house will be a mess when I make $15 million. Yeah. Yeah, Kyle. We should all think the same side in hypotheticals. That'd be fun. I mean, you've got to reason it out well. You've got to reason it out well. You're just taking less money and more and more work. Like you can get as much exercise you want in your giant gymnasium that you have. Are you going to swim in your Olympic pool today with Lance Armstrong? He's not a very good swimmer. That's why

I love it, Lance are not going to use with Martin. I pay sports. You're not good at. Your butlers are like, don't tell them that's not Michael Falls. That's literally. You like that. You won up motherfucker, another win for me.

The logic really doesn't fall behind the steps. Being a zero-cost supplier for the entire economy is certainly, easier. Yeah. It's got to be, yeah. Yeah, I feel like in my mind, I would probably, I would probably look at it through like some weird virtue lens and have my pride and ego. And then regret it so fast.

And just be like, fuck. Right. Meanwhile, you're afraid it's not like a slave to his steps. He just does any one. It makes $14 million. Sorry, Taylor. I'm on their side. Real life, you would just order the, it's a bad hypothetical because it's a very

obvious what you'd actually do, which is order all of the most expensive things on Amazon immediately and then resell them for him. We've won. They're both on our side now. Yeah, they gave up. What's the next one? It's because you picked the obvious. I thought it would be a show topic.

The only way that it actually checks out as a hypothetical is the house arrest part, which is what I assumed. And if it was, if you include the house arrest thing, then I do the steps. I have another show topic that's not a would you rather.

Oh, go for it. Tell me. All right. Again, I want to start with Caleb. I find him interesting. What is something a girl can do that makes her instantly interesting to you? Bring you dinner at night. Yeah.

Oh, any Door Dash driver, really. Well, no, because you get to focus. There's more of a bit, really. Well, wait. It was a really good time. Thank you, and I appreciate it. What are we working? What are we?

working with here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A bocky steak maybe? My wife created a New York strip with some sauteed onions and peppers with fried rice. That looks amazing. Did you grow that cow? We did not. This is a purchased one.

Okay. She cuts your meat for you? She does, yeah. A woman can do that makes her instantly interesting. Yeah. So a real thing. I think um, um, um, sing,

having, like being able to carry a tune musically. I think musical talent is very interesting. I like that one. It wasn't mine, but I like that one. Mine was, um, it's, it's actually not just girls. It's any person.

When they like love up an animal and like, you know, we're at a party or whatever and the dog enters the scene and suddenly that person is just like, oh my God, this is amazing. A dog? Oh, I didn't know there'd be dogs here. You've made my night.

I have a friend who likes every animal possible. And I have seen him with like some sort of giant iguana holding it. Just being like, can I feed it? Can I feed it? I want to feed it. What does it eat? Let's do that. And that makes a person appealing to me. I would agree with that too.

That's cool. If they, if she laughs hard as hell at some frankly reprehensible thing I've said, Because that's often in real life. You think I'm rude on this show. You know, no one's, no one's cancel in real life. And so you say whatever you want.

And you get them bust in the gut. You get them laughing and you can tell it's a sincere laugh. That they're like, I appreciate this. I appreciate that. Somebody said something. One of the replies that was similar, but different.

He liked it what a woman had an imperfect laugh. Like if a snort works its way in. And I also find that pretty indeed. Like, I think that's funny. That can be endearing. But you, Kyle. It can't be too much. If I can't have an intelligent conversation with you, then I don't want to have a conversation with you.

I want to talk about, yeah, I can only talk about like the office reruns so many times before I'd rather talk about like something political or medical or scientific or something that might be a little bit above like the baseline. So if you're, if you're stupid from Reddit, that's kind of a turnoff. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a few is important, obviously, too. Like, like, you can't have some, like, weak-ass nan-nansy-pamsy, kind of what Taylor's getting at.

Like, if a little kid trips and falls and you don't chuckle a little, like, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are we doing here? I mean, every time I trip a kid in public, she loves it. Oh, God. She helps. It ain't shit.

Yeah. And then I slapped the back of his head as. going down. Yeah. I agree with the comedy thing. That makes a lot of sense. And that's, I'm very fortunate. There is, there is, uh, almost no, I've, I've never received any pushback, uh, for any jokes or anything, anything really, um, more just, uh, unique ways to look at it and joke about it.

So that's, that's also a very interesting thing. That's good. Solid. You need that. Mm-hmm. You need someone in your corner. I also like girls like, you know, need someone poking holes. True.

or at least really want to play video games, right? And like enjoy the worlds and stuff like that. Because I don't, I'm not very good at video games. I know you guys are probably all pretty good at. I mean, obviously, that's a fucking stupid thing to say. But, uh, yeah, the willingness and, and the want to enjoy video games as like an art form beyond just like music or movies or TV or whatever. Because a lot of people just like TV now. They don't even like movies.

They just watch TV and fucking scroll. Yeah. It's like the only thing a lot of people do, which is really just horribly consuming different forms of slop. I've been watching my girlfriend play the Dead Space Remaster. That's cool. It looks so good. And she's scared the whole way through. She's screaming and flinching and freaking out and stuff.

And they're coming for her. And she can't. I'm like, the legs, baby. Shoot the legs off. And she's like, peop, pew, pew, peon. Do you see those giant yellow orbs? Shoot those. and fired into his mall

that won't upset him and the remaster looks amazing on like that TV Taylor and I have just put it in game mode and you see it? No, Xbox

Xbox series whatever the new Xbox is I've been watching her play it on that but she plays a lot of like difficult games that I don't want to fuck with like she beat Scorn and she beat Alien isolation

and she's hard too I was annoyed by those games. Alien isolation is a really popular game. It's basically a horror game where you're hiding from a xenomorph alien from the alien movies and going into ductwork and trying to get the ship working and stuff.

And it's fucking scary. Like that thing is horrifying. The way the AI works, that thing's always hunting you throughout the ship. It's really fun to watch. I know you haven't played any sort of controller game in forever, but just truthful.

you and your girlfriend have to 1v1 on bog in a week and you have a week to get ready. Oh, I've slaughter her. Do you think... Yeah, I'd slaughter her. Well, come on. Like, especially when you take it back to a game, I've got that much experience. How about not a week?

How about tonight? You have to hop back on. I don't know. I'd have to feel it. I would know instantly without even playing against her. If I just got into the game and wiggled my character around, I would know right away. I know that when I tried to play Fallout 4 on Xbox a couple years ago, it was very frustrating. Like, I immediately was losing to, like, Raiders and shit like that and, like, not being good at the game.

Like, I couldn't aim it. I couldn't get my fucking aimer on shit, which is, like, the basic thing of using a controller. I was like this is not representative of my gaming technique. I'll be right back. Four hours. Four hours. Yeah, yeah. Four hours later, I put the

like spare gaming PC in that room and hooked it up to the TV and I'm like, all right, now we're going to get those Raiders. When does this game downloads? It's 45 gigs. She's a sleep under a blanket you're talking to her. Yeah, I really

suck with Mouse and or with the controller now. It's been so long since I've played a controller game. I don't even remember. Maybe the last game I played with the controller was probably hooking up my controller to my PC to play Red Dead. Just because those games kind of work the GTAs.

I played that on mouse and keyboard. I think they've linked themselves to controller. I think I fucked around the controller for Eldon Ring a little, not Eldon Ring, but yeah, I think it was Eldon Ring. Third person stuff's kind of, you know, pretty easy with, with, or it lends itself to the, to the, you have to be as precise.

Yeah, I'm staying. With an FPS, when you're obviously like trying to hit somebody's pixels across the map, it's like, even with auto aim and stuff, I just suck with a controller. It's been so long. Just tuning.

I don't know how much, how into like game development or whatever you guys have ever been, but getting the amount of, the amount of translation between the raw inputs that has to be done to then the player

and making a mouse feel right and making your look feel right, the look Delta feel right for a first person shooter is it's very complicated and I had like I have a lot of respect now for

games that suck I feel like because I mean I thought it was just changing the sensitivity and then it does what I tell it to. There's more to it than that. Well I mean in my experience So the only game development experience I have is through Unity. And in order to get the raw mouse input, which it's like pulling it hurts. So it's just insane frequency, basically, that is being converted into something readable through the engine.

You have to take that raw data. You have to, like, clamp your, you don't want it to be able to rotate any direction at any time. There has to be like a certain, you know, you have to have a yaw. and then you're clamping your your uh x and or your fucking yeah i guess your x rotation yeah your pitch um thank you mr periglider man and uh the the translation between that and and the camera following it so like you have a you have the raw mouse input that needs to be clamped and can be smoothed so then you can you can assign it to a value 1 to 0 or whatever, so you have your sensitivity.

And then that actually controlling the camera through rotation, is it attached to a visual mesh or some kind of object in the world? There's three update paths. There's like main update, late update, and fixed update. So the camera and the mouse input need to be on the exact same frame update from the engine in order for it to feel like an FPS and be tight, or you get that float smoothness type feeling. And just getting that.

And then also, if it's a multiplayer game, you have to have client side prediction and reconciliation. So you have to have like this kind of three way back and forth check where you're not interfering with yourself and you're not stepping over yourself from the input to then the request to then the is this request okay, handshake. That's what the player sees. So it's like, it's just everything is so complicated and unnecessarily. and you just you lift up the hood to see what's going on and it's like all right well i don't want to do this

anymore i didn't realize how much the mouse and keyboard input was massaged on the way to the game yeah at least in unity are you gaming at all now caleb yes i uh i i force myself to game at least for a few hours a week just so i can maintain my because it's like now i want to do game development stuff or i like play again game and I just see something 3D or I'm really I'm very into art right now like 3D art I'm trying to learn the 3D art pipelines and I'll see something and I'll see the way someone did something or how they got something to look a certain way the foliage and King Come Deliverance too that's like been my recent just literal obsession uh so like I'll play a game and then I'll see something I'm like

I want to try to make it I want to try to make it I have to try to make that see if I see if we can do that um and just to learn uh but I have to like I try to work through that basically and actually enjoy the games and stay immersed. Because I feel like that's one of the reasons why a lot of people who are game developers on the higher level, on like the creator level maybe, like the people who are kind of driving the vision of the game and making the decisions, they get extremely detached from the actual immersion of games and what makes games so good because it's scratching the same itch in a weird way.

And I'm trying to not do that. What are you playing? You mentioned Keynes, I've been meaning to play that. That's probably the best game that I haven't played. It's so fucking good. That's something that I would like. I tried to play Subnotica the other day and did not like it.

I did not like it. It seems like there's not enough in it yet. It's still early access and stuff. I get it turned off with early access stuff, to be honest nowadays. I like early access, but I don't think I like Subnotica. I don't, like, I thought, I didn't play the first one.

And the second one came out, I did a lot. And me and my friend, we had, we had just finished playing Grounded 2. Grounded 2 is really fun. Yeah. It's like, honey, I shrunk the kid and you're in a backyard fighting spiders and shit. It's great. But I don't know. When I, I just assumed I'd eventually be able to kill the alien sea monsters that are in Subnotica.

But you don't. There's no killing at any point. Like you don't, there's no shooting. There's no fighting. That would also disincentivize me. Is kingdom come deliverance to, is what I'm watching? Is this like an open world game? And War Horse Studios just got the licensing to make an open world RPG in fucking

middle earth, dude. And it exploded my entire brain. And I want to support them in every single way I can. I can't wait. It's so good. Because Kingdom Come, it is a historically accurate, very realistic, simulation-esque open world RPG where you play this guy, Henry, and you do a lot of really wild, cool stuff in, I think it's the 15th century. I can't remember in Chechia. So you're like in the Holy Roman Empire, and you're doing Holy Roman Empire shit.

And it's just the sense of humor of it is incredible, especially the second one. And the second one is like, probably one of the best games ever. I mean, my favorite game. How big is the extended map, like compared to similar open world games? Like, how much freedom do you have? A ton. A ton. More than you could imagine.

You can build like a whole house now. And you can, like, customize your house and buy houses in different cities. There's the first starter map, which is, I don't know in terms of square kilometers, because the travel is pretty realistic and slow. The first, there's two maps in the second game that I'm aware of. I haven't beaten it. And it's probably like Skyrim and a half, maybe. At least a Skyrim size.

I need to get my, I've never seen this game. I need to tell my wife to play it because she's all, she's grinded Oblivion and Skyrim into dust. Yeah. Yeah, it's so good. It's very fun. and the environment is incredible. They just did such a good job.

That team is very, very, very talented. And it is or is not the same team doing the Middle Earth. It is the same team. Same team. Warhorse Studios. I'm excited for that one. The Middle Earth one, if they fuck that up, I'm going to be.

They won't. They won't. I believe in them. It looks like Skyrim was like 14 square kilometers and Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 with both maps is 50. I hope it's full. Because a giant empty

map is not a good game. Yeah, that's they do a good job with Yeah. Remember that star game that got shit? Stargaze. No man. It can be no. Like when I'm walking around in Skyrim, I'm like, Jesus Christ,

I can see the next point of interest from here. It's like every step I take, I'm stumbling over a goblin cave or an elf or a witch's brew. It's like, I kind of like that, like, a little dead space between the next thing. You know, this fucking troll. I'm over here fighting some trolls, and right over there, I see some giants.

And is that, that's a dragon. No, Elder Ring as much as I do. But I found Elder Ring, the base game, nailed it. It was the perfect, like, it wasn't too dense and it wasn't too sparse. It was just right. But the DLC is too sparse. They made the DLC really big, and everyone was super, impressed. And then as you replay

at a time or two, you're like, oh my God, there's nothing here. But it does take me fucking 15, 18 minutes to go to the next point of interest with not much really going for you. Yeah, you need that middle ground hit. In the Bethesda games, which I've studied

at length, I love Bethesda games. I've played Skyrim a lot. But if you what Kyle said, you can see the PO, the PO, the point of interest basically from anywhere. There is, it's like a rule, basically. If you're at a point of interest, you can see the one you came from still, and you can see the next one to go to while you're at one.

It's all, you're always in like a third, a third, a third, a third, a third, a third, a third. And it's just an unlimited amount of, um, of, uh, just brain hacking, basically that they put in those games. Pretty cool. I like, I like there to be like in, uh, fallout New Vegas. I love New Vegas. I'm walking through the Mojave. I might, there might be some fire ants here I need to shoot. But then I might walk for two or,

three minutes before the next thing happens. And I can just listen to the radio on my pit boy and look at the sky and appreciate stuff and is that a Casador? Nope. Nope, we're good. We're still good. I like some wandering around and finding stuff. If every step I take

I uncover a new treasure, then the treasures aren't that valuable or rare. I want to look and delve deep and I'm okay if most of the time it's fucking boring. Like when I'm walking around in Tarkov, there are these long periods of just complete boredom and listening to birds chirp.

And then suddenly it's terror and panic. And I've got three different bleeds. And I've got to figure out how to stitch my arm back on. And they're coming. They're coming. Oh, no, there's two of them. I like there to be some dead space between the moments of interest. I'll have to get you.

Yeah, a reasonable amount, I assume. We're making, currently we have two games that we're making. And one of them is we've played. we've played New Vegas probably a dozen times now because it's like the best in my opinion the best example of like an RPG like a like a firearms RPG and my buddies Michael and Clint who I've spoken about here Clint especially is a firearms guru he knows basically everything that there is a know about guns ballistics he has like ballistics calculations memorized He's got multiple dope sheet notebooks full from like range days and stuff.

He knows everything about guns. So we're taking the Bethesda formula pretty much. And we're what? Three hours and 55 minutes in so I can talk about this. Not to make you know what I see it. Yeah, I don't want to see it. So the game is called, I think I've announced the name. I may have not yet.

I haven't really talked about it online because I don't really want to incur the wrath of people's expectations. but we're building it like a new Vegas as close as we possibly can in a spiritually respectful way and from obviously being a three-man team now with my wife I guess so four-person team so it's like a really small team but we've been doing it for two years and it's in it takes place in Appalachia in an alternate history universe you guys know the Battle of Blair Mountain. No. Battle for Blair Mountain.

It's an early 20th century event in coal mining country where the post-World War I, a bunch of, you know, veterans came back home to the coal mines. There's scripts and all this evil with these company towns and everything like that. The Battle of Blair Mountain, there was a bunch of union busers. There's a detective agency, a corporate interest detective agency. Detective Agency. It's the Baldwin-Felts, very close to Pinkertons. But basically Pinkertons, but a little bit later. And the Baldwin-Feltz detective agency, they murder a couple people and all this crazy stuff happens. And the basically 10,000 coal miners fresh out of World War I march out and are just like, we're going to union.

We're going to unionize. Like, we're tired of this shit. We're going to rise up. basically there was a short war allegedly some airplanes dropped bombs on them and we bombed American soldiers and allegedly and then though in real life this is where the history of the game goes away from the history of real life uh in real life they they sent in either the army or the national guard i can't remember um and uh the the miners obviously weren't going to fire on men that they served with alongside their countrymen. So they lay down their arms and then they were able to eventually unionized and there was some laws and stuff passed.

But the army in the laurel writing, the army basically joins them. And there's sort of a schism in that area of the world for a bunch of other reasons. It isn't just like unions and coal miners necessarily, but there's like a reason for all these different events to start to take place more so in the mountains of West Virginia or Appalachian, eastern Virginia. Because there's not really many games that have ever taken place there. Fallout 76 is there, but it's kind of not good at all. People hated that.

Yeah, and it dropped, and we were so excited being from that area, we were like, man, this is going to be so cool, and it was just total dog shit. So we're trying something very cool and very bold. And it probably, I don't know if it'll work out. I believe in it 100%. I'll play. But when we get play tests, I'll send you guys some, especially you, Kyle. I want to hear your feedback on POI distance, see what you think about our POI distance.

What I like about the other one is how dark the story is. I like that there's like child trafficking and cannibalism and rape and molestation and. Yeah, Mormons. Mormons, yeah, all that. A very notoriously dark. I've never played New Vegas, but I know the meme from the story where apparently there's a big hotel and you can go in there and there's a bunch of ghouls who are like, we live peacefully with the non-goos. Please let us live here. And then if you decide to let the ghouls live there, you come back and all the non-goals are dead.

No, that's fallout three. We've had this conversation. I'm sure we have. Yeah. That's, um, many years. It's a, that's 10 penny power, uh, 10 penny tower from fallout three. Oh, my mistake. Yeah.

Vegas is great though. It's very dark. It's, it's, it's very, uh, ghoulish. And the story's good. I, I like that character. And I like the Wild West stuff. And I love the country music on the radio. I like, I like all that, uh, Marty Robbins on the radio.

It's great stuff. That's my favorite by far. Yeah, it's such a good fucking game. It's also, it's just so, it's just so, like, everything you're doing feels consequential, pretty much, in my opinion, at least. And it's not even,

not even necessarily just the story or the narrative. It is the, the things that you're interacting with in the world. You just know your place in the world all the time, pretty much. I like the DLCs to it.

It has good DLCs. Yeah, that's a great game. They made that in 8. 18 months, I think. What the fucker game developers doing now? Thumbs up their fucking asses. What they're doing is their... Well, it was a broken game.

Let's not act like it was ready to rock and roll on release day. Like this, I think it was 14 years ago. And now we got it tuned in. If GTA6 has even one glitch, fuck them. The big stupid thing, I feel like a lot of studios become software. they become software developers because they have their engines. They build their engines. And now we're moving away with that, it seems like with Unreal becoming basically like the hegemony of...

It looks so good. It looks amazing. And it's, what is that? Claire Obscura or whatever was built. It was built 100% with blueprints and visual scripting. No lines of code were written for the entire game, which is unbelievable. It's like a game built by artists, which is just not a thing that's ever happened. And a small-sized team.

Like a few dozen people, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And Unreal is kind of blowing people's wigs off with that. But, and hopefully games will get a little bit faster, but we'll see. I watch a lot of gameplay videos of like indie horror games, and they're all on Unreal. And it's like, Jesus Christ, they all look so good. This is what AAA games used to look like

This is perfect for me Like it doesn't need to get better than this What games look good? What are we talking about? Because I feel like they all look terrible I don't think of a game I'm impressed by I like the marathon a lot But it cheated by using robots

I was watching 007 Peanuts playing 007 right now To me that looks like shit It looks so unrealistic to me Who makes a good looking game? Um, I, I watch, um, all of, I, I watch Fooster. He's a YouTuber and like every single game he reviews to me looks really good. Like it, and they're all indie games you've never heard of.

They're all like survival and horror games and some special forces team or something. Um, they look really good. I must be missing some subtlety because I, I look at like a brand new release and think, well, this doesn't look much better. than Modern Warfare did 14 years ago. Oh, come on. Like, the new Modern Warfare 4, like, I'm not going to buy it or even, or even think about buying it.

But that trailer looked incredible. Like, it looked like a digital movie. It looked really good. I think games look good. Obviously, Marathon doesn't look good. That's the art style. They've chosen to be like, halfway to borderlands or something like that. It's, it's so, I don't know, there's no gradient to the shading at all.

it's just like this is bright neon green and this is black and this is gray I really hate the art style of marathon. Is it like tronish? It sounds like tron. A little bit tronish. I think it's kind of tronish. I think it looks amazing. Now

to my eye when I see Tarkoff I'm like oh okay so like every other fucking game ever made it's another modern mill sim now Toccroft was kind of first but just modern mill sims everywhere everywhere you look another modern mill sim i'm so over it i would

agree with that i do think uh tarcov has like the the kind of unity look the the unity look i don't i'm not a huge fan of um but uh yeah a lot of the a lot of the unreal games the it's just so easy you can just buy asset packs change lights some some basic stuff and then use nanite um you don't have to do LODs. You don't have to like, you should, but you don't have to by default optimize your games in Unreal because there's so much proprietary technology that they have where it's like built around optimization. And instead of like fully relying on mimp mapping and like decimating meshes and like crushing textures and meshes down, they have this thing called manite where you, it just like fucking takes vertices and

like turns the individual vertices in some form of fucking pixel or whatever. I don't know exactly how it works, but it is crazy how you can just take full, high-poly, amazing-looking assets and just throw them in Unreal, and they will run on like a good PC. I watched the Monomorfer 4 trailer. Sorry, I cut you off. Oh, you're good. Sure, the cutscenes look good, and then the gameplay looks like it did 15 years ago. Yeah. Yeah, it does.

Explosions look like the same from 2014. Really? Yeah. All right. I thought the mini battle film looks good too. Caleb has a delicious meal he's having to pick at right now. Very good. All right, boys, PGA-806.

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