Painkiller Already - PKN #105

Episode Date: August 26, 2016

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And we're live, PKN episode 105. So, first topic, Milwaukee? Yeah, so I'm probably the least informed on this thing, so let me give you what I know about it and you fill in the gaps. I think that'll be good fun for the audience. So, it seems that a black police officer, I'm holding up a finger, a black police officer shot a black young man who had a lengthy criminal record that was violent and also some interesting photographs of him online, holding a gun and pointing it at the camera.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Shot him in commission of some sort of crime or responding to a call in that black neighborhood. And then it seems there was a large protesting riot sort of running wild and burning everything in the area and looking for white people to attack that occurred directly after. Definitely not a protest. It was a riot. Interesting thing about the riot coverage is CNN, who I defended last PKA, had some really biased reporting on it. So the sister of the victim,
Starting point is 00:01:05 am I right on that, Taylor? I think that's who it was. I believe so, yeah, some kind of relative. Sister or... The sister of the victim, and I'm going to misquote her, but I'm going to get pretty close, was something like, you guys, you can't be burning down these neighborhoods, these stores, these whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:21 We need our weaves. Weaves being like hair extensions or something and then that's where cnn cut it off the part they didn't show was you got to go over to them white neighborhoods burn down the suburbs and it was immediately like when you watch the clip it's not like there was a five minute discourse of her saying other things and then it got to the racist shit she said about white people and the literally inciting violence that's illegal. That is literally illegal
Starting point is 00:01:50 inciting violence. It was right afterward and it was so calculated how CNN did it. It just ended right after her saying. CBS did it as well. It wasn't a period, it was a comma at best where they cut that thing right there. It was a yield sign at the very most. There was not a stop there at all all you just flow on into traffic with that hate speech and cbs and cnn just
Starting point is 00:02:11 turned the mic off and cut away like oh that didn't happen she was just not accurate reporting that is that i mean and i want other news sources now the internet's doing it but as far as i could be wrong but i feel like you know if fox that, you need everyone else to point at it. If CNN does that, Fox, NBC, CBS, they should all be saying, this is news. Our fellow reporters are lying to you about this shit, right? And they, like, it needs to be more than just Jon Stewart holding people's feet to the fire when they do bullshit like that. I don't think Jon Stewart would hold their feet to the fire on this instance. It's hard to say.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I do feel like he, while he certainly focused on Fox, in my observation there was more there to focus on. But maybe in this one he would have let that go. Because you're right, he was definitely an unapologetic liberal. Yeah, he was just a Fox hater for the most part. And Fox gives you a lot of material. That's not true. Well, she did have a... He had a field day with Brian Williams.
Starting point is 00:03:19 He had a field day with Anthony Weiner. He wasn't just a Fox hater. It is like a 98% split, though. 90% split, we'll say. Regardless, though, we agree on this. This is ridiculous reporting, horse shit nonsense, and it's not a big story
Starting point is 00:03:38 because none of the news agencies want it to be a big story because almost all of them are peddling the same bullshit narrative. It's not a big story because they didn't go burn the suburbs down because they never do because they that's they're not trying to send a message they're trying to like go buck wild and burn some shit down because they they have an opportunity to do so that's what's happening here these aren't people trying to send a message or they would go maybe burn the suburbs down they they just wanted to like commit
Starting point is 00:04:05 some crimes and here was a moment of anarchy in a time when we had like a crowd dynamic to pull that off i had a theory and i don't know this will be well received but so i've been saying that the black lives matter hoodlums domestic terrorists call them what you will, keep rallying around the wrong people, right? This guy with the fucking gun pointed at the camera, the two burner phones on his shoulder, like, what could that be for? Oh, he's a drug dealer. Who literally has a record of, like, intimidating witnesses so court trials get dismissed, right?
Starting point is 00:04:42 This is the fucking scummiest of the scum piece of shit. The reason why Black Lives Matter is rallying around shitheads like this and not that educated special needs helper dude who got shot in the leg is because they're rallying around their friends. And I don't know why I was slow to pick that up, but it's like the guys that are being shot unfairly rallying around their friends. And I don't know why I was slow to pick that up, but it's like the guys that are being shot unfairly don't have the same circle of friends that this fucknard does.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Well, and because when you condemn a shooting that's clearly unjustified, like the guy laying down, hands up, almost like a mummy on the ground everybody's on your team there's no battle to fight because everybody's like oh okay evidence of racism or evidence of bad policemanship at the very least has been presented and we're all on your same team you know a black guy gets shot in the back like it happened and i think like the carolinas as he's running away get shot in the back everybody's like okay yeah that's that's that's
Starting point is 00:05:44 wrong we're all on your same team but they can't pick examples like that they have to pick ones like the Carolinas, as he's running away, gets shot in the back, everybody's like, okay, yeah, that's wrong. We're all on your same team. But they can't pick examples like that. They have to pick ones that they know will be divisive because otherwise their movement is moot. That implies a lot of forethought into their victim selection. And I'm not putting it there. I'm really saying these are just, you know, what?
Starting point is 00:06:02 What's the guy's name? Do we know this person's name i think you're see but but but it's not like the people that were rioting were like this guy's friends it's not like these these guys all went to home rune with him and they've been like his best buddies for life it was a lot of people right like like like many many people i i i don't think it's that they were necessarily friends. And I don't think it really had too much to do with it. I think that a lot of these guys just saw an opportunity to commit some crimes.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And so they did. Like they want to burn down Pizza Hut every fucking day. It's just that today it makes sense. Like you burn down Pizza Hut on Tuesday and everybody goes fucking crazy because you burned down the Pizza Hut. But if you burn it down on Wednesday right after they shoot this guy, it's like, yeah, burn the motherfucker down. I don't know this name. Now I remember. I've seen it
Starting point is 00:06:51 so many times. Slyville? Seville? What is this name? How is it spelled? Yeah, I'm going to need to see it. Probably not Slyville. What if it is, though? That'd be great is that it's probably civil s-y-l-v-i-l-l-e smith civil that's not a name i thought i was gonna be the only one that didn't
Starting point is 00:07:18 know like dude i still think i learned about that in school on the periodic table. When I read to myself, I still read the word hyperbole. And I'm like, ah, nah, that's hyperbole. Yeah, thank goodness I read quietly. Wow, what a stupid fucking name this guy had. Well, that makes sense. In honesty, I thought it was going to be some name that everyone knew but me. Like, oh, Woody. It's Silvelli.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Of course. Yeah, you don't's Silvelli. Of course. You don't know Silvelli. Silvelli. I don't think that's how they say it. If it was... This is just so fucking... I understand what you're saying, Kyle, that a lot of people are just taking the opportunity. Like, well, fuck. It's mayhem. We're in a riot now.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I can do whatever I want. Like Danny DeVito. Protesting a black policeman shooting a black criminal by burning down most likely minority-owned businesses while chanting black power and throwing rocks at moving cars and saying, oh, they're white, go attack them. Oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:08:21 This is beyond the pale. This is like any other group of people who acted in this way. I don't know. I think everybody can get away with it but us. Nobody could get away with it. If it was a big group of white people doing that, it would be rightfully condemned. It would be all over the news. Racist group targeting minorities. Racist group targeting minorities racist group targeting black
Starting point is 00:08:45 list and no hockey but it's not because of this same fucking soft bigotry of low expectations that you have of oh these people just aren't on the same you know you were the tolerant ones but you know our tolerance tells us that they're not quite up to par they're not like yeah up to our level so we have to kind of treat them the way that we would treat children. It's just ridiculous that their entire mindset is getting mad at us for being racist when they're the ones who believe that minorities and women can't do anything on their own and need white men's money behind them.
Starting point is 00:09:15 A black cop shoots a black criminal so suddenly they want to kill white people and the white people look at this and go like, no, look you can't expect the same thing from them when a two-year-old fails to go peepee on the potty you don't beat them because they're only two that is the low expectations they're putting around this group of hoodlums don't it's racist it's racist yes treat them like everybody else. Treat them fairly. Have the same expectations. You know, like there is no... That won't go well.
Starting point is 00:09:49 It doesn't matter how well it will go. I see a better way. Who knows how well it will go. That's not going to end well. Like you need to treat people, treat everybody the same. Yes. Just treat everybody the same. When a Mexican guy does something fucked up,
Starting point is 00:10:00 treat it the same as if a white guy did the same thing that's fucked up as a black guy, as a white woman, as whatever. That shouldn't be controversial at all they if if you want to like that um remember the the i wish i remembered his name but the uh the special needs care taker um who was laying on the ground with his hands forward like a mummy i don't even know if that was a racist shooting and i'll tell you why they weren't aiming at him they were aiming at the special needs guy who was either white or they were just trying to shoot a retarded man when they shot that black individual exactly no racism involved terrible cop that's the step above racism in terms of evil is targeting retarded people in his like officer review hearing
Starting point is 00:10:46 when he's like, sir, sir, sir, Johnson, did you shoot another black? We've had like 15 black sensitivity meetings this year. What the fuck? You see, sir, I was shooting at the retarded man in the street with his toy. Oh, well, that's just bad marksmanship. Get on down the range, Johnson.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Hell, I thought... All right, you are on the program. Well, are a bunch of groups for those people going to come after us? well that's just bad marksmanship get on down the range johnson hell i thought all right you you are on the program a bunch of groups for those people gonna come after us no they're very disorganized they really can't get their shit together uh dude i don't know i'm very upset with this milwaukee thing not good at filing motions i'm upset by it too because it's just like i'm saying they're never going to go burn down just another town's shit but and i don't think they will either because i think it's going to get stopped before then like a national guard will swoop in or something but the fact that that's being said out there and reporters are filming it and people are cheering as people
Starting point is 00:11:42 as it's being said is very troubling i don't like like i don't go to atlanta on the weekends now because like i've seen when they'll like block off the fucking highways like with this wall of people and just watching the videos i'm enraged and i'm just like give it the gas give it the gas and the so the last thing i'm ever going to do is put myself into that position dude i don't want to be in that position. That car in front who's just like, who's coming with me? Sometimes I feel like this show ruins my potential defense if I'm ever in a situation like that. But I kind of feel like, dude, if I'm walled off and I just see like a mob of people escape from New York that old movie no one else
Starting point is 00:12:25 will know style just like Kurt Russell yeah yeah if people just beating on it right like a scene from Walking Dead like the only thing that will delay me from stepping on the gas is shifting into four-wheel drive that's that's where I am on this thing. There is no fucking way they're dragging me out of my truck Reginald Denny style. They're going to be running from my truck. Well, I'm just, now, if they're pounding on the vehicle, clearly trying to remove me from it, well, that's a whole different story. Like, that's a horse of a different color.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Then we can start shooting. You shoot one of those guys, I feel like they'll all just leave you the fuck alone right i don't know they disperse they just taylor says no i think one of them takes out a gun and probably had the gun you've already used it and and you know that just further goes to justify the shooting in the beginning but if they're trying to get me out of the car yeah i feel like i can start shooting then but like i'm talking about if they're just standing in that wall of people holding arms, like chanting Black Lives Matter, and I'm just trying to get home.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I've got to take a shit. It's on empty in my car. There's 50 people just behind me, and it's four, five lanes wide, and it's been an hour. Like, fuck, man, I just want to go. Those people are assholes. Yeah, I would not murder them in that situation no i would not murder people for standing in front of my car though uh maybe
Starting point is 00:13:52 maybe a solid crippling to make sure that they're only blocking you know maybe you put it down and put it down in first you know you hold the clutch you give it a few thousand rpm and you just pop the clutch and hit him with that fender and the kneecap, and then you just sit there for a minute like, oh, I'm sorry, my clutch slipped. My fender would hit a man in the thigh. That happens a lot. It's going to periodically lurch forward violently the longer I sit here, in fact. You know those Toyota's. Quarter mile forward, real quick.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Oh, here it goes oh my god like anyone who blocks a road for a protest that's so shitty and the way like when you see any road protest not just black lives matter or i don't know if occupy wall street did it i don't know they did it to delay a trump rally here and there just that that's in the way that they stand there like their arms locked as if like if a car came they're gonna be like oh like no i've seen what happens when the car just nonsense you're delaying everybody else you're ostracizing people and that's because you know that your movement is based on being divisive you have to keep people at each other's throats or it falls apart that's what it is i i actually don't give
Starting point is 00:15:05 them that much credit for fourth i think they're just trying to get attention that if everyone drives by i watched a video last night i think and it was what we were all talking about they're all like locked in arms chanting it's on a freeway like five lanes wide and they've got these yellow these cardboard boxes that look like they're yellow construction paper on them with slogans on the boxes between them. There's lots of them to sort of form this barrier. And finally this SUV has just had enough. And he just starts driving
Starting point is 00:15:34 forward at about 10 miles per hour. He was a truck supporter, right? I saw this last night. Oh, Monta on the older one. He just starts going. He doesn't go fast enough to cripple anyone. They have plenty of time to get out of the way. But a lot of them keep hopping in front of it like, an older one. He just starts going. You know, he doesn't go fast enough to cripple anyone. They have plenty of time to get out of the way. But, you know, a lot of them keep hopping in front of it, like, stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 00:15:50 But he's just like, no, I'm going to slowly accelerate. Make a choice. And he just keeps going. It was nice. I was really hoping that, like I said a minute ago, like, who's coming with me? Like, that more cars would follow him. But they're a bunch of bitches. They didn't follow him.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I'd have followed him. Like, if one man punches through, I'm definitely coming in would follow him. But they're a bunch of bitches. They didn't follow him. I don't follow them. Like, if one man punches through, I'm definitely coming in behind him. I'm not going to cripple any people. But if there's a pack, especially if I'm in my truck, if I'm in my truck, it's definitely a horse of a different color then. I don't care about a few dings here and scratches there. Like, shit, I'd love an insurance claim. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I'll tell them you got sucked into the tranny somehow. Yeah, this is just an upsetting oh i heard some stats i thought were interesting a related topic um i'm gonna mess up the details but just for listeners out there try to keep in mind the broad strokes are more or less on target it turns out that concealed carry permit holders are one of the lowest crime groups in america that um it's some ridiculous number like there's one to every 167 000 people that actually commit a crime uh then the rate between like the gap concealed carry heroes cops were like 60 times more likely to commit a crime than concealed carry permit owners. And then the regular population was like 37 times more likely than a cop to commit a crime. The concealed carry permit holders were just on the far end of not committing crimes.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I think that's because those are the people that are like, hey, this is a really cool right that I have guns. Let's go through this legally, through these avenues, and you kind of just set the precedent for other things you'll do. There's so many things in the first reading about that. One of the little bureaucratic things with firearms that frustrates me is like SBRs and suppressors and stuff. I feel like you should actually be able to, as a regular citizen who's not doing business as
Starting point is 00:17:45 making SBRs or suppressors, without having to go get your... Can I interrupt you? Yeah. An SBR is a short-barreled rifle, for people that don't know. Yeah. If your barrel's below a certain length then they make you register the thing basically as some sort of super-duper killing
Starting point is 00:18:02 machine. And you gotta pay an extra $200 and there's like a three three month waiting period for each modification on a weapon that requires it short barrels one and then um the suppressor would be another and on and on um but there should be there should be a one-time thing where they clear you to get those you pay a fee and then you can just get more quickly but instead they do the same antiquated weird government background check every time. And I got to believe that they're using some Windows 95 computer. They've only got one of them. That way, every time it breaks, they're like, whoop, system down.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Let's go home. And the IT guy comes next month on his monthly scroll through. And then he – it's he fucking thing going again. Every five years, they're just blown away by how dusty it gotten there. Yeah. The shittiness of the process to get these things is purposeful. It's there to to make you not jump through the hoops and climb the ladders to do these things. And the one thing that they haven't kept up with is the tax stamp.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Originally, like in, I don't know, 1920s or something, when they instituted the idea of this tax stamp that you would have to pay to get the silencer or the machine gun or whatever, it was $200 then, too. It has remained $200 since, like, 1920. And so they definitely... Originally, it was meant to be so expensive that no one would fucking do it at all. So it's only now that $200 has become kind of...
Starting point is 00:19:35 You know, if you're making a $6,000 machine gun, you don't fucking care about a $200 tax stamp. That's just like an accessory or a paint job to you. Yeah. That's a really interesting stat because it kind of coincides with i feel like everyone who is a gun owner knows a legal gun owner and flies in the face of kind of the narrative that's put out there of like oh everyone who owns a gun is thinks that they're john wayne and they're gonna save the day i don't want seven people behind me
Starting point is 00:20:05 shooting at the bad guy and there's a crossfire and I get shot. No, of course not, dumb fuck. You think it's going to happen? You think seven people are going to stand up with revolvers behind you and fire summarily around the computer? It's the Matrix and they all pull out guns simultaneously
Starting point is 00:20:16 and shoot down the wall. People are worried about it. And I can understand. I'm a gun guy, but I kind of feel like I'm... Sometimes I feel like I'm barely a gun guy. And I can understand why there are people in the world who are like, oh, if everyone has a gun in their pocket, then what was previously an argument over a parking space will become a shootout. And while obviously not everyone will do that, I did think – I can see why people would think there'd be stories about it. You know, like it doesn't
Starting point is 00:20:46 take too many. If this happens once every month, it's like another parking lot dispute results in a fatality. Yeah, that's silly. But it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen at all. These guys are not, they shoot less than cops. Because the bottom line is most people aren't willing to kill over a parking
Starting point is 00:21:02 lot spot or you'd see a lot of people getting beaten to death and rammed with cars and beaten with golf clubs at Walmart. And you'd see a lot of pocket knife stabbings in like, I don't know, the alcohol aisle when you're trying to grab the last six pack of something they want. Like, no, if people probably everyone here has. But if you've never had a gun in your pocket, it's a new feeling. It's a weird thing. Not that you want to go out and start fights or anything, but there's kind of a quiet confidence like, oh, if I had to, I could beat up anyone here. Not with muscles, with a gun, of course. But it's a little easier
Starting point is 00:21:41 to walk away. It's a little easier to, in know, in gun circles I've heard it called the tiger's smile, right? Some guy gets loud with you, you don't have to prove anything. You knew what could have happened. And maybe that's part of the reasoning. I don't know. I hope it doesn't look like Taylor. That's the muskrat smile for a little gun. I picture it like the Cheshire cheshire cat like you know
Starting point is 00:22:07 like you're just fully aware of what of the fact that you let that guy off the hook and it's easy to do it's easier to be a graceful winner i it to me it feels like i'm just equipped like i feel the same way that i do like if i'm actually doing some sort of carpentry like it has to be a real job before i'll put on the tool belt. I'm not going to put on a tool belt to spend 10 minutes working on a thing. If we're building a structure or putting a roof on, it's time to put on a tool belt,
Starting point is 00:22:34 hang a hammer, get a nail pouch and actually work. I feel equipped. Once you've got your tool belt and you've got your carpenter's pencil and you've got your T-square and you've got everything right there with you, you're like, alright, now I can work. There's not going to be any more walking. I got everything I need right here on me. And it's a comforting feeling to be equipped for a job. And having a 9mm on your side, you really feel equipped for virtually anything.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Another thing people don't think about is, i feel like if someone personally doesn't carry a gun that they just assume everyone around them they see in daily life oh that's not the kind of person that would carry a gun they don't have a gun they don't have there are way more at least if you live in an area like any of us do there are way more people carrying guns concealed than you think there's a lot of them out there like Like, you go to the grocery store, if it's a decently, you know, run grocery store and there's a good number of traffic, there's a few people in that store with a gun right now. You will never know because it won't be an issue because you don't hear about the stories
Starting point is 00:23:35 of people, you know, just carrying a weapon so that if something goes down, they'll be prepared and equipped, as Kyle so aptly put it, to handle the situation. But it's just like the same kind of argument as like, oh, well, where are the stories of people stopping mass shootings? Well, it didn't become a mass shooting, so it wouldn't be a story, would it? Like, it's just like, and there are plenty of stories of people with concealed weapons permits stopping crimes, not like, you know, some guy with two AKs, like, bursting in somewhere
Starting point is 00:24:03 and him going like, not today! Like, not like that, but people have helped in that situation. It doesn't just immediately become a frenzied Fallujah-style crossfire, which I think a lot of people would assume. But that's also circumstantial, so who knows? Yeah, I like having a lot of guns around,
Starting point is 00:24:20 but the thing about it is where I am, there's a lot of country boys, and so if I see you got a camouflage hat, let's say we're at Walmart, right? And all of a sudden fucking ISIS parachutes in from their ISIS planes and like they're wearing their black ninja suits. And they land like the clay troopers from the Power Rangers just kind of in a squad and kind of do this for a minute. You know, like do a little dance before they like come running at us like if i see a good old boy with like a a camouflage hat pull out a moffsburg out of his truck i'm gonna be like form a line like i'm ready i could buddy up with that guy i
Starting point is 00:24:56 know he's gonna like have some some trigger some uh trigger finger discipline he's gonna he's not gonna muzzle sweep me like he's been in a dove field before he knows what's up but if i see someone who's wearing street clothes like i don't know i i don't like being around people who aren't really safe and careful with guns like like it it really it doesn't piss me off it upsets me and it like ruins my day if i see someone do one thing that's like untoward or unsafe because now it's in my head the whole day it's like he did it once all it's going to take now is for him to get excited or distracted again for him to do it a second time and maybe the second time somebody is in the way of his line of fire and his finger twitches i don't even want to be here anymore with that motherfucker
Starting point is 00:25:39 so there's something to be said about not wanting to be surrounded with people packing heat for no goddamn reason. I kind of like that it's a more selective thing to some regard. I mean, you got to go downtown somewhere, do some paperwork, send some money off. Like, there's a bit of hassle to it. Fingertips. Yeah, yeah. Whereas, you know, if it's just a, you know, if you want a gun, take a gun. Like, I don't know about that at this point with our population rate as high as it is i think everyone who wants a permit should be able to qualify for
Starting point is 00:26:09 one and get one and the qualification should be up to the the territory that we're discussing you know georgia should be able to set their requirements in north carolina theirs and if they want to reciprocate then so be it and if not so be it but i like having people who know what they're doing with guns to have guns around but i don't i don't think that the state itself should be able to make it prohibitively difficult to do certainly because that's kind of like the same thing as like certifications have the freedom yeah you have to you have the freedom to use the highway is all you want you know it's uh every foot costs 60 cents right you can use it all day you know we'll just put this track oh you don't want to drive? Why not?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Or instead of the license test, it's like a Mensa exam where 1% of the population is intended to be able to pass. Just fix this Rubik's Cube. Here's a 100-sided Rubik's Cube. What does this have to do with self-defense? God damn it.
Starting point is 00:27:01 You haven't heard of the Rubik's Cube killer? He throws it at you. If you don't solve it in 10 seconds he'll kill you i flew my paramotor this weekend getting better at it stuck two landings i'm happy about that um we uh we went out to the southern skies which is where i learned and we're formed you guys probably didn't see today's video but i'm excited because we're getting like this paramotor community. You know, where it's like, hey, Brad and Woody are coming down. And then because we were coming,
Starting point is 00:27:29 four other people came, and all of a sudden we're all flying around. I've never had five people in the sky at one time buzzing around. I know it's paramotor talk, but I was very excited about it. It's all coming together. You guys fly in a formation? We did not.
Starting point is 00:27:43 We stayed kind of away from each other. A lot of are new so like marco and brad are very good most of us i'm like i'm gonna be like i don't want to be near you i don't want you near me um like i don't want to be i wouldn't want to be near anyone either what was the formation from the mighty ducks the flying v the flying v yeah yeah i want to see you in the Flying V out there. Maybe that's just wishful thinking. I also want you all to have matching bomber jackets. Oh, that needs to be a thing. Yes. Do they have, like, say, like, Para Motorhead and have the Motorhead logo, but it's, like, got, like, an aviation cap on it?
Starting point is 00:28:16 We were going with Para Friends. Why don't you get those knocked out? Why don't you just make those for the shirt store? Oh, I got a quote today. I like this. Para Motorhead. Make those. Make those.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Make those. the shirt store oh i got a quote today make those make those no i you know what para friend got pitched and everyone is so invested in it that they won't they won't consider anything else but um uh anyway yeah so the the t-shirts and and jackets are are they're you know they're gonna happen but i'm just i was excited i I had a really good flight. My last flight in particular, the sun was setting. I was up high. I had a good launch and landing. I'd like you to distinguish yourself from the crowd.
Starting point is 00:28:53 What if you were the cowboy guy? What if you always kept a big... You put your pistol in a holster. If you flew with a holster, you'd be that guy. If anybody asked you about it, I'd just be like, you've never been up there like, if you flew with a holster, you'd be that guy. And if anybody asked you about it, you'd just be like, you've never been up there before, have you?
Starting point is 00:29:10 And the clouds suck. I could just ditch the helmet and wear a cowboy hat. There's a lot of mischievous birds. What could I wear? You'd pull out a.44 Magnum and be like, I took out a pigeon last week. You should have seen the size of him. Took three to bring him down.
Starting point is 00:29:28 He was hundreds of yards away, so I don't know if I hit him or he flew away, but I did fire thrice. I was thinking about getting a custom wing someday. It's not time. I still have to build skill. And also, I don't want any attention. Right? All my stuff is very stock. I feel like you shouldn't
Starting point is 00:29:46 be drawing attention to yourself unless you're special and I'm not right I'm special as in special needs at this point like in terms of my paramotoring talent but um yeah there may be a day when I'm like you know the guy who's good at it or competent or something and then
Starting point is 00:30:01 maybe it'll be more fun if you show up for something with like top of the line equipment oftentimes they'll expect top of the line performances that's in the gun world yeah i would have my girlfriend fallacy paintball yeah i would have my girlfriend decked out you know she's got a custom jersey custom paintball pants she's carrying i don't know sixteen hundred dollars worth of gun and gear. And people see her and they're like, whoa, that chick must be a badass. And she's like, this is my second time. She's like, eh!
Starting point is 00:30:31 That was always my favorite thing at paintball is when you'd see like just some – like my grandpa, the farmer, went with us a few times to go paintballing when we were younger. And he was at the time I guess like a 60-something old man and he's got farmer's strength you know farmer like it's a farmer strength is a real fucking thing oh my god and he just grabbed a tipman 98 that they gave him they had to explain it to him real quick and he just took it out there and he he played paintball the way i think the inventor of paintball thought that it was supposed to be played, where he, off the start, I was just, just firing wildly because I'm 12 or whatever, and he crawled, as a 68-year-old man,
Starting point is 00:31:15 crawled the entire length of it. It turned out that he crawled into a different course and then re-entered the other one in the back, because I guess he's behind enemy lines. And he shot eight like, eight or nine people with his Tippmann 98 from very close range, lots of them children, because he didn't know how much it hurt.
Starting point is 00:31:32 But one of my friends on the other team, he got shot, because he was trying to camp, got shot real hard, like, right, I guess it was probably, like, high back, which is still startling if you're a kid, but that's, I don't know, I thought that was, I like seeing that in paintball when a guy has a shit gun and he actually does well and shoots those people who spent like two
Starting point is 00:31:49 grand on it because they have to feel like such a dick right after i i've had a quick we were playing in a tournament one time and it was like the last game to decide whether me and scott and my friend raleigh were going to get a second place or first place so if we win this game we've won two out of three maybe it's we're up two games to one place so if we win this game we've won two out of three maybe it's we're up two games to one and like if we win this game tournament over we got this thing wrapped up and uh it's just my friend raleigh and one guy left and they it's just both of their guns break and they're both working on their guns and they're on opposite sides of a fucking barrel they're back to back working on their guns while we cheer on the sidelines like put it back together. No turn it to the right
Starting point is 00:32:29 You know try it. I need time barrel tap So finally they just stopped the whole thing and they're like look let's just reset and start this three on three again So we reset the thing and like my adrenaline just going crazy, so I run all the way to the back I don't stop I go on a suicide mission. Because I did that a lot, and I could run then. And when you do that, you either get shot immediately, or you flank two people, and you kind of win the game for your team because it's three versus three.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I get back there, and I get one, and then one of the others gets shot. So now there's just one of them left, and it's a 1v1 again, and my gun breaks. My gun is broken, and'm having to like manually cock it and load it semi-automatic style like And I've got like this one bullet and I'm chasing this motherfucker like we're round he doesn't know I'm behind him It's gone isn't working at all. No, no, no, no, I'm fucking there. It's hilarious He thinks he's advancing into enemy territory, but I flanked him, and I'm trying to run him down
Starting point is 00:33:28 before he looks behind himself and realizes that he can just mow me the fuck down. I had to run right up behind him with the fucking thing, and when I shot the paintball, I just went poof, poof, and it just broke on his back. It just, it went out so slowly and broke on his back, and I was just like, yeah!
Starting point is 00:33:44 It was the best thing ever. But those guns were so shitty that we started out with. Everybody had just shitty, shitty fucking guns. They constantly broke. But the cool thing about that, that I think that a kid who starts out with a brand new state-of-the-art thing, the benefit that he never gets is we could take our shit apart and put it back together again. When our shit broke all right well we need some more o-rings we need some lube we need a new like plunger or ram or whatever and
Starting point is 00:34:09 we could fix our shit and we'd go to those tournaments and guys would have autocockers out there with hoses spraying nitrogen in the air we're just like we don't need that shit fuck all that well it's good that you got your 1v1 record back up to 500. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, well, it was 1,000 until you cheated that day and utilized Aviator giving my position away. I feel like I had radar always on. No, I had radar always on. You did not. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And I was trying to sound whore. I really was. And something about those buildings and my mask made your footsteps sound like they were opposites. But really the sound was going past me and coming back and I'm just like... That's actually a skill. You know how you can throw your voice? I can throw my feet. I can make it sound like
Starting point is 00:34:55 I'm walking anywhere. I had a 1v1 with Tmart. It's still disputed as to who won that thing. I remember that. It depends whether it's legal to jump over the net and do one of them. Exactly. So blind firing is illegal. Blind firing is not legal.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But the net was kind of see-through. See-through. There's a reason. The reason you can't blind fire is at least partly because you can't shoot back. You can't just put your gun out to the side and start shooting with just your gun. That's called blind firing. It's blind firing if you're blind when you're doing it, though. You can't just put your gun out to the side and start shooting with just your gun. You shouldn't. That's called blind firing. It's blind firing if you're blind when you're doing it, though.
Starting point is 00:35:31 They don't want you to shoot. The reason they don't like blind firing is because you could shoot someone without a mask on. That's really the only reason. It's not like firing blindly gives you an unfair advantage. They don't want you firing paintballs without kind of having some purpose behind them. You know, obviously we're all just spraying into the air, but, like, if a rep walks around the corner like taking his goggles off and you blind him because you're just blinging over the thing,
Starting point is 00:35:53 you know, something inadvertent could happen. But I always felt like that was legal, especially because of the net there, and I always thought, like, well, in any other scenario, it would be legal. It's just that you guys were face to face and the net was all that was there and that's a weird scenario because you don't run into that much playing paintball it's like well he's right there but can't shoot him because the net i always
Starting point is 00:36:14 like those like like kind of like going in and like utilizing firing is when a person fires a weapon from behind an object and does not reveal himself. That's blind firing. It's illegal. I looked it up on the internet. I think that Kyle's agreeing that it's illegal, but saying that the only reason they don't like it is because you could hit someone like a ref who doesn't have their mask on, or whoever doesn't have their mask on.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I do think that you won that 1v1, though, because that is technically blind firing and that's illegal. Right? Yeah. It doesn't matter if it was a safety issue or not. That's the rules, isn't it? In what way was it blind firing if he can see where the paintballs are going? He was jumping.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Blind firing is firing from behind an object without revealing yourself. I don't remember. Visually? Well, let's define reveal then because you could see him. Is it without endangering yourself? That's not what the rule is. That's how I read it.
Starting point is 00:37:17 If I remember it correctly, he jumped up. For people that don't know, there was netting, but real tight netting. You couldn't squeeze a marble through. Like a trampoline material. Yeah, perfect. Like trampoline material. You could sort of see through it. And what T-Mart did is
Starting point is 00:37:34 jump up, almost like a slam dunk, put his gun above. Like a volleyball spike kind of. Put his gun above this and he shot my ankle. While simultaneously I was going through at ground level, like around a doorway, but made out of trampoline material, and I shot him. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:37:53 It ended up that he owns that whole course. Timur? Yeah. He put that tarp there. He knew. He was pretending just to be a happy customer. We let him pay us to fly him there? Wow, that son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:38:10 He didn't even know. So, yeah, the question is whether or not you're allowed to slam dunk your paintball gun over the netting to shoot people, which I'm pretty sure is no. Pretend it was League of Legends and someone just jumped up and started raining down in the neighboring quadrant. I think they'd say that that was not legal. Or pretend it's Call of Duty and you hop up so that you can see someone
Starting point is 00:38:33 and then fucking quickscope them. That's legal. You can't blind fire in Call of Duty. The reason that's illegal is because he could have dropped his gun. I think with his gun that high, he could have dropped his gun, and it could have hit somebody on the other side, right? Nah, he's tall, though.
Starting point is 00:38:51 You've got to keep... You get it pretty high. He had to jump. A little guy couldn't do. He had to jump. I saw him do it in the video. He jumps up and puts it over and pop. I feel like he was just taking advantage of his environment.
Starting point is 00:39:06 That's how I saw that. Just like sometimes I'll stand on rocks and climb a little and try to find a good sight line in paintball. I felt it was like that. He was utilizing cover. It was a little dirty, but I felt like it was legal. Okay. Agree to disagree about this five-year-old paintball 1v1. Let me get Paul on the phone. We'll find out.
Starting point is 00:39:29 It's funny. The game we were playing was called Mexican Standoff, which liberal me, I'm like, is that racist? Can you say Mexican Standoff? Is this how Mexicans resolve their differences? Are we implying that? It's basically a 1v1. But they called it Mexican standoff. I don't know why. Well, Mexican standoff is when both parties are holding each other, have their guns pointed at each other, and there's like a who's gonna flinch kind of moment. That's a Mexican standoff.
Starting point is 00:39:57 What we were doing, I thought, was like a traditional duel. Where you're like back to back and you take ten paces and turn around and fire. Did we do that? Because we were running around the we were doing like i think we did both there was definitely a period where we did the back-to-back thing turned around with one bullet and fire i could be off on that but i do remember that term being thrown around a lot a mexican standoff and i'm like that was just because gassy mexican was there and i thought it was racist though and fun if that's the case that that that is legal what Trevor did, then by just using his environment, isn't it not cheating
Starting point is 00:40:28 what I did, looking where Aviator was pointing the camera and discerning that you were... Oh yeah, I got no problem with what you did. Oh, I don't know, he had an issue before. Well, I'm the one who decided to bring like a documentary filmmaker while I go into a competitive battlefield, right? Like, Kobe can't get upset
Starting point is 00:40:43 if while he's sticking his tongue out, he gets distracted by a photographer's lens or something it's like you wanted him there dude like i don't i don't claim to be good at airsoft but i played this time we went out to california i did my yeah it hurts more than people guess oh everyone is like oh yeah airsoft people just pretend they they don't get hit and i guess there's some truth to that but paintball also but yeah when, when I'm lighting paintball, anyway, I had a film crew. And not only did I have a film crew, they were wearing these bright safety vests,
Starting point is 00:41:11 like brand new. Don't shoot me, shirts. They were reflective safety vests you might see on the side of the highway. And there were two of them. But I still maintain, I was hiding awesome. I was like, it was California, so there was like six foot tall thorny bushes or something.
Starting point is 00:41:28 But I'm decked out like a Marine. You know, I've got clothes, my wrists are covered to my ankles. You know, I could pass for a Muslim woman except I'm wearing camo. And like they didn't spot me even though I had cameramen around. And I was just, I got a bunch of kills. I don't know how many I'll say five, seven,
Starting point is 00:41:49 something like that. And I felt like I was amazingly good at the game. Airsoft hurts. So I had always kind of put it off and said, I didn't want to play. And so like my experience was that everyone there is decked out with the gear like you're talking about and it's silly to look out if i'm look at if i'm being honest paintball it feels like we're all going
Starting point is 00:42:10 out there and and being like surfers or something like that like our skateboarders like everything everything's brightly colored i like that shit i like the you know the headbands and the and the do-rags and stuff and the baggy pants and the baggy everything and it's just kind of silly and laid back but airsoft felt much more like guys pretending to be something that they weren't do-rags and stuff and the baggy pants and the baggy everything. And it's just kind of silly and laid back. But Airsoft felt much more like guys pretending to be something that they weren't and sort of like hero worshiping or not hero worshiping, but sort of like wanting to be G.I. Joe. They're playing G.I. Joe in there, like with a full on BDUs and the boots.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And it's like, why are you wearing combat boots, bro? We're playing indoors on concrete and just all this thick shit. And I couldn't fathom it because it was hot as fuck in there and we get in there and i get shot a few times and it's a it's the kind of pain that makes you go like and i was i'm like walking back to the check-in point i'm just like oh that fucking hurt that fucking hurt that fucking hurt like rubbing it out and like these welts come up about the size of a nickel and in the center it's it's like a nipple that just got fucking popped on your ass. And oftentimes, you get shot three times at once because the guns have such high rates of fire that you're lit up by BBs.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And the place I was playing, you could get into some close-quarter shit. Like you could run up on someone and be right in their face and you both light each other up with like ar-15 style airsoft guns and it hurt like a motherfucker you the only way to play that is where everyone is wearing a shit ton of clothes and so we all sort of disregard the pain because they were not feeling the pain i'm feeling or we all wear t-shirts like normal human beings and we play a higher level of game, which is what I would love to do So you don't have to get heatstroke in there I was dripping with sweat and I don't think that airsoft hurts because the only ones they've used usually are like those little ones you
Starting point is 00:43:58 Get it like Sam's and it goes just like Ninging-ninging-ninging-ninging and it like lobs little slow balls at you But if you get a gas powered one or one of those like strong bolt action sniper rifles. They make electric ones that are quite powerful too. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, they can really, they hurt worse than paintball.
Starting point is 00:44:16 A bad airsoft shot hurts way worse than a bad paintball shot. My friend plays airsoft and he's a military guy and he has all these military friends or some of them are ex-military and he's like, I'd feel pretty comfortable just swapping out rifles and magazines and taking out ISIS.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And he's dead serious. He's like, that's the only change he needs in equipment. Everything else is full-on military grade. Yeah, the mag holders and all that stuff. And it became obvious that they were kind of needed. But my thought process the whole time is, I don't like to pretend like I'm some sort of soldier or anything. I think that's silly.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I want to come in here and play a game. In my head, it's all about geometry and bravery and mobility. And so that's how I'm wanting to play. I'm wanting to advance and find good angles and not give a fuck enough to run right up on these guys because if it's anything like my side of the map then there's like 30 guys hiding behind this one building here in the back and it's just this big ripe pussy back there waiting to get fucked and it's just like if i could just get back there and like run and do like a baseball slide and because it's it's it's concrete like smooth concrete and i'm wearing
Starting point is 00:45:30 paintball pants so you can run and slide and not worry about getting roughed up or bruised and you slide really well because it's all rubber sneakers on concrete forever and it's polished and there's a like a fine rubbery powder just do like a baseball slide and slide in like Keanu Reeves and just, they're gonna destroy me, of course, but I'm gonna fuck up. It's a fun fantasy. We did something like that on one of those trips where you kind of spearheaded a charge of like
Starting point is 00:45:56 Taylor, Trevor, here's two grenades. We're gonna run in and just see what happens. And I don't remember who else came. I think Woody, you might have come as well. We just grabbed a couple grenades. And I was going into going into it like man this is gonna be so this is gonna be so much fun like running up there with two grenades and then like we ran past everything onto the front lines and we're being held down and you throw yours and just i never expected my first thought to be like oh man i've only got two of these. I'm not going to waste both of my grenades here.
Starting point is 00:46:29 So I kind of just threw one and ran back because I didn't want to waste the other one in that position because it just seemed silly. You're not going to get any one anyway with those grenades. 90% of them just go... That's what they do. It just looks like someone squeezed a condom upward and just a little bit of goop came out.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Like you stomped on a tube of toothpaste. It's that kind of blast radius. I imagined it to be like it hits the ground and it goes like a bouncing bedding. Like fireworks. Like fireworks. It did not happen like that. I have had only
Starting point is 00:47:02 two, maybe three good grenade experiences in paintball, but I have had dozens, dozens of shit experiences. I've had them blow up in my hand. I've seen a lot of kids have them blow up in their hands. So those things are like $5. Sometimes they're $7.50. They'll be like $4 for $30, boys. It's like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:47:23 But I often get handed these things like they're candy and so i'm just like fuck yeah let's strap them on and i'm you know i always try to share the wealth with whoever's with me or whatever i think that was the case this day but like so so because of that i've had a lot of paintball grenade experience that i would have never paid for because i know they're kind of shitty so i know how to use them and i know what they can and can't do but i see so many kids who have like the one paintball grenade that their mom or dad bought for them and they're just holding it like a magic sausage thinking that oh when they come they're getting this and then they'll pull the pin and just squirt themselves and it's the most
Starting point is 00:47:58 depressing thing when someone does it because it takes a moment to realize that you just squirted yourself. Oh I just spilled $5 all over myself. And that counts. And that's why I didn't throw that second grenade because I threw the first one and it just went... And I was like, oh, well, I got to have Kyle or someone tell me how this works before I throw this next one. Like, this doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:48:17 There's only one instruction on it, and I did it. Like, I don't know what else could it be. I squirted a guy one time. Like, I ran up and I squirted him in the back he was like crouched down not looking and i could have barrel tagged him i could have just i could have done anything i wanted but i squirted him i thought that was funny um i've definitely thrown one and gotten like i because i remember the ref coming over be like you you you you and you yeah and i was just like fuck yeah four for one i've done that I like it because what the rule it's more about the rules than the equipment
Starting point is 00:48:48 so you see five guys hiding behind a bunker you say hey ref I'm about to throw this over there if I hit it then all those people are out and they're like I agree so then you throw it and it goes it gets like seven blades of grass wet and then the ref manually tells four or five people that they're now dead same thing with those nerf launchers good tip yeah it is it is no fun but it's kind of cool that like i should make is are cool if we do another paintball thing we should make ourselves some homemade nerf launchers because they're just like potato guns i think but but you know they use compressed air
Starting point is 00:49:25 and it's very simple but for you know for anyone who hasn't seen one before it's like a big pvc potato gun usually but it shoots those nerf football rockets with fins on them and if that hits the bunker you're hiding behind everyone behind it is out and that looks like a lot of fun because inevitably in those stupid fucking scenario games there's like a ravine and there's two like front lines and it's like World War I all over again. I want to play Vietnam. I don't want to play World War I. I haven't paintballed
Starting point is 00:49:53 in years. I'd love to go again. That'd be fun. Or try airsofting, like we just talked about, but with people who don't dress like they're, you know, Kevin Commando. I'd rather do something else.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Church for skins. Oh, you want to talk Trump at all? Yeah, right. Trump is continuing to sink in the polls. He's, I guess he's losing all his support.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Does he have an arrow lead in Missouri? I was reading something about just how he, it was like if he lost every swing state, which right now somehow Georgia is a swing state. It was like Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania. Like he could win all of those and Hillary would still win.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Nevada was one like Trump is getting his ass kicked so bad that if he gets every tie, he still loses. It's because he's not spending any money where it needs to be spent and he's a blithering idiot a lot of the time and will give a halfway decent speech and then immediately it's like, oh, I better hop on Twitter
Starting point is 00:51:06 and say something ridiculous so that no one will even know of what I just said and they'll just know, oh, Donald Trump eats Snickers with a fork or whatever it is. Or during the speech he'll say something completely stupid. Or during, yeah. Obama founded
Starting point is 00:51:21 ISIS. That's not winning him any favors. It's not getting him any votes. Yeah, be more articulate. Like, if you say Obama founded ISIS, people who are actually, like, trying to understand what you're saying understand you're saying that his policies pulling out of Iraq, all that, it created a vacuum in which that, quote, JV team went all the way up to varsity. And that's what happened. That's not founding ISIS. And when you use words like that, people just nitpick it and then the entire essence of it is lost.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Nitpicking is not fair because they said he literally founded ISIS and then they said you don't mean he literally founded it. And he goes, no, I mean they literally founded it. People think I'm joking. No, what you're saying is the vacuum created. No, what I'm saying is they literally founded it and then he comes back days later and says oh that was sarcasm and it's like
Starting point is 00:52:11 you suck at this he's horrible at it he got a perfect out when Hugh Hewitt spelled it out for him so this is what he's such an arrogant prick in that way that he couldn't take well meaning advice from someone that was trying to help him out and say this is what you meant correct no i'm gonna double down
Starting point is 00:52:31 and say that uh obama actually did found isis isis is not the best my isis would be much much better there's an 83 second video right now they played on msnBC, so it's getting a lot of attention. It's like, whoa, Joe Scarborough just played this video of Trump contradicting himself. And I've seen longer ones, five minute ones. I've seen like 13 minutes of Hillary, you know, usually contradicting herself. They say lying,
Starting point is 00:52:57 but oftentimes it's contradicting herself. You know, it's not 13. Isn't that the same, though? I don't know. Lying has a certain intent to it. My car is red, but tomorrow I say it's black. You know I'm fucking lying, unless I've been painting my car over the weekend. I'm fucking lying. If I say, you know, shit, I think we should bomb ISIS, and then three years later I say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:53:23 A bomb probably would have been the wrong tool for that. Did I lie or did I just learn more? Like, that's contradicting yourself. That's a developing situation with some like TPP. Like, you know, she definitely is just a wind vane. Like, whatever is best, that's where she's going. And it's funny, that wind vane thing, I think, is where Trump in particular is getting beat up on this video. Trump goes, fuck it. Yeah, he's and it's funny that wind vane thing i think is where trump in particular is getting beat up on this video trump goes fuck it yeah he's it's i feel like it sometimes points actively
Starting point is 00:53:51 in the direction of the wind yeah just for the sake of it just to be going upstream that you say point actively in the direction of the wind that's what democrats do with guns yeah i've been saying it for years. People who watch this show for five years have heard me say this. Republicans, back the fuck off the gay thing. It's stupid, and it's a losing position. Democrats, back off the gun thing.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Also stupid, and not getting you any votes. One of them is really, really prominent in one of the parties. One of them is really fading. True in one of the parties. One of them is really fading. True. The gaping is really fading. The gaping seems to be on a local level,
Starting point is 00:54:32 much more than it is a state and federal level. You might. Jailer might not feel like it's fading as much if he was in North Carolina in the midst of all this HB2 shit. Well, you guys are just bigots. We all know that. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:54:51 God. I feel like, so I have this. You're in New Alabama. The local news, they have an iPhone app. So I get notified of HB2 problems in my state three times a week. Like, oh yeah, another company pulled out the nba pulled their game out paypal pulled out deutsch bank pulled out these come no one wants to like do
Starting point is 00:55:11 any business with you another entertainer canceled their concert you know like just time and time again and it's like dude like economically it's cost the state something like a billion dollars already and i'm like really but you save your souls we solved a non-problem the law has been in in effect since march right it's august now zero arrests zero we've solved zero problems because it's not it's never been a problem i do think it's i think that it's good not good like i don't it's not good or bad i think that it's fine for those private companies to say or private artists to be like no i'm not playing there because i can i'm a private person i have my own organization i can do whatever i want no and by that same exact
Starting point is 00:55:54 fucking logic i think that a baker who is a bigot and doesn't want to make a gay cake should be able to say no i don't want to do that just the just the way fucking Beyonce doesn't want to do her concert here. Did that gay cake look gay? Like, what was it, a big rainbow cock? Or did he just not want to put two grooms on top? Was that literally it? Or was it just that, like, hey, I'm not contributing in any way whatsoever to your gay wedding party you're having because I can't get behind that.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I can't even give you pretzels for that thing or it kind of feels wrong to me. There were going to be two grooms on it. It was otherwise a traditional cake. But I'm wondering, like, inside of him, what the kermuffin was. Was he saying, well, I'll bake a cake for your gay wedding.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I'll even sell it to you for a profit and make it the way you want it. But I'm not fucking putting two men on top of it. Fuck all that. I don't think it was that. I think it was literally that he or she, I don't recall, just didn't want to contribute to a gay party, a gay wedding party. I think that was it.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I think they wouldn't have sold them coasters. They wouldn't have sold them beverages for the thing. They wouldn't have sold them coasters. They wouldn't have sold them beverages for the thing. They wouldn't have sold them alcohol either. That's my impression too. We don't serve your kind here. Or, baking a cake is a little different because it's a custom thing. It's almost like you could compare
Starting point is 00:57:17 it very easily to when you go and, I can't think of the word, but when you have someone commission a painting. When you commission a work of art to be painted, you go to them and say, hey, I would like to be painted here in this field with my horse right there. And standing dressed as an English general. And then they paint your painting. I think if you went to an artist and said, I'd like you to paint me and my boyfriend here, his cock in my mouth. What if they declined that?
Starting point is 00:57:45 Now, that's what i want to know like if an artist refuses to paint you and your boyfriend uh in the nude together could we could we somehow go against him go after him legally speaking i think that the way they do it because i was saying this. You can't discriminate on the basis of like sex, religion, age, sexual identity, etc. I don't know. You can definitely discriminate
Starting point is 00:58:15 based on being a douchebag. The fact that yours was pornographic I feel like provides other reasons not to do it. Okay, get this though. The artist we're going to regularly paints heterosexual couples. Yeah, seeing a case like that, he's gotta do it. That's his thing, you know.
Starting point is 00:58:32 His thing is, I paint you and your loved one in the nude together, you know, in poses. Maybe it's not specifically sexual, but maybe, like... He definitely should not have to do that. Because that's basically indentured servitude, isn't it? Well, the thing is, you can't discriminate based on age, sex, religion, race, sexual orientation, etc.
Starting point is 00:58:54 So, if he's not going to do this, it should be for some reason other than sexual orientation. Or you could say, you know, hey, I'm just not equipped for the job. I don't have enough paint for your wife's ass, quite frankly, i'd have to go back there's a wife involved then he'd do it you know what i'm saying yeah yeah your husband's pot belly needs a lot more paint than i keep on stock because if i'm a painter and like if i'm gonna paint your that exterior of your home and you come to me and you're a gay couple and I just want to discriminate for whatever reason, I'm going to be like, you know, this is a pretty big job. I don't think I can do it. No, no, this would take maybe come back to me in six weeks and I'll be ready. I'd pull one of those. I feel like what really what really happened with that whole gay wedding cake thing. And maybe I'm
Starting point is 00:59:37 wrong here and out of my depth. But did they say, no, we don't make faggot cakes. Like, did they come out with that? Were they like hardcore, like bigoted against these guys or girls? we don't make faggot cakes like did they come out with that were they like hardcore like bigot bigoted against these guys or girls i don't remember which was it that or were they just like ah you know we can't get to you right now i bet it was girls i guarantee it was not girls are more litigious a dude would have been like fuck you and your shitty cake maybe maybe you're right i i just i I'm almost positive I remember the story being about a gay couple of men.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Maybe so. Who knows. At the end of the day, it seems wrong to make a business owner serve or do anything for anyone that they don't want to do. That just seems immoral. And they're going to get shut down eventually not by, you know, people goose-stepping into their fucking bakery and being like, ah, not making cakes for everyone, VC.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Like, no, it's going to be because the entire community is going to be like, oh, these people are a bunch of assholes. You shouldn't patronize their place anymore. I'm not going to. And they're going to lose on the open market. You're saying the free market will correct these sorts of sporadic bigotry. Yes, because most people are good people and don't want to harm people for no reason. So they won't support businesses, small businesses like that. I think that's what you're seeing in North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And I bet what's going to pan out is the next time it's time to vote for state representation or whoever we need to get rid of to make this thing right. Whoever's running against the incumbent is going to be like, hey, you want David Bowie? Because he's fucking dead. If you're campaigning to bring Bowie back, that's a whole different kind of campaign. That's cloning, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Yeah, not a witch. You could go that way, too. We could resurrect him. Do you want this artist back? Do you want Wachovia back? Do you want, you know, Goodyear said they're going to build a fucking tire shredding plant if we got rid of our anti-gay agenda.
Starting point is 01:01:34 You're probably going to see a swing, right, back in the other direction next election cycle. I'll tell you, locally, my wife and I, we like deeply investigate every candidate. We're like, oh, this guy's running for like chief of agriculture. We look for someone who has some like both academic and practical experience who might be good in this role. And this time we're like Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, just fucking Democrat.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I don't care if some like, I don't know, New Jersey surfers running for chief of agriculture. We have to have fewer Republicans in North Carolina. It's a problem. Hang loose, bro. Yeah. You know, like, cornfields are so lame. You guys never wear flip flops. You know, like, I don't care. We are voting the fuck out of Democrats this time around in North Carolina
Starting point is 01:02:25 because the Republicans are doing a caricature of awful Republican shit. Good shit. That's great. We'll see if it works out. We'll see if the free market economy can correct this thing. And if the good people of North Carolina will see the light and, more importantly, see the lack of green, I guess, and respond with their votes.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I think it's going to happen, partly because of people paying attention to local issues, but partly because I think Trump is a really weak top of ticket. Unless there's some October surprise, he's going to hurt the whole Republican ticket. Yeah, I'm still holding out for something crazy to happen. This is a weird election cycle. It ain't over yet. No debates. still holding out for something crazy to happen like this is a weird election cycle it ain't over yet i think it's it's no debate the predictable thing would be for hillary to stay where she is
Starting point is 01:03:10 right now several points ahead and just maintain or or that's not what's gonna happen she's gonna drop out of the debate something weird is gonna happen you think somebody's gonna drop out of the debate uh for some reason it'll be an issue and she won't be able to debate him uh i bet they try to like she's debate the way it stands now is she's committed to doing the debate and trump is trying to negotiate a stronger position he committed he committed but he also said but but he said he wanted to move some of the dates around because i think there was like one one or two that interfered with football playoff something with football and you know like i do remember debbie wasserman schultz how much she loves to schedule things during football so maybe that's but trump's
Starting point is 01:03:49 negotiation position is weak as fuck you know hillary is like i accept the rules and he's like i need you to change the rules all they have to do is be like hey he's the reason this isn't happening hillary doesn't want debate she's kicking his ass right now. He needs the debates, not her. And he's trying to get the rules changed in his favor. He's a really weak spot. We'll see what happens. It's so nuts. My prediction about
Starting point is 01:04:15 the Olympics hasn't panned out yet, too. I don't think it's too late for it, too, though. All we need is a terror attack. I don't know what else. I think that's my only prediction that hasn't come true i i've heard about assaults i've heard about robberies i've heard about shootings green the pool turned green the uh the the boat capsized on a cat on a submerged smudged couch corrupt you know corrupt judges that irishman today really fucking spoke his mind he's like
Starting point is 01:04:43 power lifters had to lift wagons of goat feces instead of weights because they ran out. I couldn't believe that. It's like, how can't you get some fucking weights? And how much goat shit did they even have? I mean, in Brazil, it's the most common meat there. That's their chief export is fucking goat shit and Zika virus, apparently.
Starting point is 01:05:01 They literally had wagons of goat shit. They didn't even use kilograms or pounds to set the records. That guy lifted eight wagons of goat shit. They didn't even use kilograms or pounds to set the records. That guy lifted eight wagons of goat shit. They're on a wagon system there. They haven't moved over to metric or imperial. I didn't think it was fair because the Russians have been using the goat shit measurement system for a decade or more. Yeah. Anyway, call it a show.
Starting point is 01:05:23 PKN episode 105. It was full of shit. Yes, it was.

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