Painkiller Already - PKN #112

Episode Date: October 13, 2016

It's PKN time baby!

PKN episode 112 started super fast today. 112, thanks for stopping by. What the hell is behind you? Well, I thought that I would spend some well-received money, $100 or so, on a life-size cardboard cutout of Donald Trump. And there was a huge list of other leaders and people. Clinton was on clearance, because I guess nobody's buying that. Nobody wants that. Which Clinton?

Nobody wants that. Not very funny or cool, you know. And then you got Washington over here, always a top seller. What I didn't think about before is that I'm like, I wonder why Washington is cheaper than Trump. Oh, I guess it's just because Trump is a relevant figure right now because he's running. No, it's because the pictures that they have of George Washington have no definition because it was painted hundreds of years ago. And so the quality just looks like,

if you cover the head on it, it's just a black smock. Yeah, I see that. And his hand is like all flimsy and a little bit shitty. But yeah, I just thought these would be fun to have just in case he does win and if not it's fun to take to the range dude let me run through a list of trump's like last say 10 days

or so are you ready claimed he won this uh is this from somewhere or is this yeah i found the list and saved it no it's not, although it could have been. Claimed he won the debate and polls confirm it. And confirm it was one of the worst performances in modern American history, based on the poll results. Blamed his debate victory on a bad microphone. Called into a morning show to call the former Miss Universe fat. Asked me to watch a sex tape and a late night Twitter rant, violated the Cuban embargo, had his tax documents released by the New York Times,

revealing he paid no income tax for 18 years, said Hillary cheated on Bill, did an impression of her having pneumonia, threatened to sue the New York Times, had his charity declared a fraud and shut down by New York, lost eight points in Rasmussen, six points in Reuters, six points in Fox News, and is collapsing in Colorado, New Hampshire, and Virginia, did business with an Iranian bank under international sanctions in violation of U.S. law, said soldiers who suffer PTSD are not strong. That's like ten days of Trump.

See, because they were the last one. Totally un unbiased too like i was about to say the part that like they the reason they released the 95 tax returns is because it gives some context to the reason that he hasn't been paying income tax because he lost a billion dollars they were in 1994 and he used a government a legal government program to basically pay it forward and make it so all right you don't have to pay income tax you still have to pay tax on all your employees still to pay federal state county tax you have to pay all these other taxes but you don't have to pay income tax because you lost so much money and i mean the reason the government does that this isn't a donald trump thing it's because the government benefits by people taking risks because a large portion of those people eventually are going to become successful.

And the government makes a lot of money on those successes because of the way our economy works, the way our market works. So the government is incentivized to not be like, ah, this mogul had one horrible year. You're fucked. You're done. All those people you employ, fuck off. You're done. Your entire empire crumbles. So that's kind of the actual explanation that I've understood. Well, the counterargument the actual explanation i've got fucked are all the people that he owed money to like like the guys who

install the windows and the carpets in the cabinets uh those are the people who end up getting fucked like trump gets his loan forgiven and then normally when your loan's forgiven like let's say you have a 900 million dollar loan and then suddenly just don't owe that anymore that's income but if you can prove and they suspect he did, I mean, the whole returns weren't released. But if you can prove that you owe more money than the loan was forgived by, then you don't even have to count the loan forgiveness as income. So it looks like that happened to him. They gave him $9 billion by removing that debt from

him and then they didn't even pay taxes on that and then all the people that he owed that nine billion did i say billion it's with an m 900 million is the right answer um so that 900 million dollars that he lost is supposed to be income but he might not have had to pay taxes on it and all the people he owed that money to got fucked because he's i read that he did pay taxes on it oh i heard that he didn't from fortune magazine that's all i know i would have to check i don't remember the article i was reading i'm really it's really fucking hard to find something that's believable uh-huh because so many have you have you heard his actual quote about the ptsd Yes, and I saw him speak it, and it was shit. I didn't think it was that bad.

Oh, I thought it was awful. We didn't watch it together. I didn't hear him say it, but I read it, and maybe it's because I didn't hear him say it, and often at times that makes a big difference, but when I was reading it, I'm like, okay, he didn't articulate that well, but clearly his heart is in the right place on this he's not trying to be like oh they're cowards I put it in the same thing the same quality statement as the

basement dwelling Bernie thing where it's like they cut people kind of took that and ran with it and if you actually look what Hillary Clinton said she was not calling everybody like it was clear that there was a measure of disrespect for those supporters like she doesn't look at them very highly. She doesn't think of their opinion as very worthwhile because she pictures them in basements. But she doesn't think they're all just losers sitting in basements that she's manipulating. Or maybe she does. But I think they really took the worst of that statement and played it up.

And I think they're doing that with the PTSD thing, too. Although, to a much larger extent, obviously, because it's Trump. It sounds to me like he's doing that thing that he does where he makes his point but then there's this little miniature run-on sentence that fills the gap between his next point he's like yeah yeah i like soldiers soldiers are great soldiers shoot people and they do stuff and they fight in the army let's watch it it's important that we okay yeah because it feels like the part where he says you know some people are strong you know maybe they were they yeah let's do it ready set i'm all set ready set play when you talk about the mental health

problems when people come back from war and combat and they see things that uh maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it but a lot of people can't handle it and they see stories, they see events that you couldn't see in a movie, nobody would believe it. We are losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care. You know, when you hear the 22 suicides a day, it's big part of your question. But when you hear the 22 suicides a day, just doesn't sound that bad. Be that should never be.

So we're going to be addressing that very strongly. And the whole is not politically correct issue're going to be addressing that very strongly and the whole mental health issue is going to be a very important issue. To me, that's what it sounds like. I hate the edit in there. See, there was an edit. And if people are watching, there was a point I was like,

because they cut out. He was like, the people in here are strong. They're strong so they can handle it. Those people, they're not strong. They can't handle what we can handle. He really ran on on that not strong thing for a long time. there was just a cut in there like oh fuck like you cut the thing that he did well he didn't go on the other part of it i read the quote what he said was that a lot

of people you know think they're a lot of people are strong and they think they can handle it and a lot of them just can't handle it like he said something to that effect like in that short of words it wasn't some diatribe of you know they think they can do it but they're dumb weak idiots you know fuck them why not you know i'm just a crazy nazi up here like when you tie in the people who have ptsd are not strong like everyone here everyone here has seen what they've seen like probably many times over but the people in here are strong and they can handle it and the people out there they're not strong that's literally we can watch it again he, but the people in here are strong and they can handle it. And the people out there, they're not strong. Did you listen to what he said?

We can watch it again. He literally said the people in this room have seen it many times over and can handle it. Do you want to watch it again? Yeah, the people in this room have seen it many times over. Here, I'll find the full quote because I believe he's talking about the people in this room seeing it is seeing people with PTSD. Because at the end of the quote, he says that the people with PTSD are seeing things that you won't even see in a movie. You won't even see this in Hollywood. It's so awful what they're seeing. I think this is the same thing as the Clinton thing where you're taking something where they –

I mean he clearly has the right thing in mind. He's just obloviating – It's right in front of us. Folks in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can't they've seen things that people in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it but many people cannot i just listened to it you're you're like turning it into something better than it actually was it was awful he's calling but then you take that and you circle back to like attacking the gold star family who

lost a kid and attacking mccain who was a prisoner of war and you really get a guy who kind of doesn't have any respect for the hardships that soldiers go through like you wrap all that if it was just the first time but it's the third one it's the third one when you take it the attacks on the gold star parents and the mccain prisoner of war thing and now the PTSD thing. And it's like, oh, here's a guy who just kind of fucked. Like he doesn't really get it. I think they're all coming from different places, though. When he goes after McCain, he's just throwing rocks at the guy he doesn't like.

I mean, that was just an easy one for him. It's just like when Michael Richards starts dropping N-bombs. It's not because he's in the Klan. It's because he's very upset that this respected Republican figure is talking shit about him. And so now he's throwing shit right back at him. I don't think it has to do with how he

feels about the military. And then with the Khan family, I think it was. I think that, and it seemed to be the feelings of a lot of people that like, wait a minute, they came out and entered themselves into the political arena sort of and made themselves part of it, but they're like off limits, we can't say anything about them. I didn't like what he said about them, and I thought it was stupid.

And obviously a lot of other people did too. And what he's doing here feels terrible. He's just bumbling and like stepping into some shit, going out of his way to step in shit it's what it feels like it's like he's got a nice paved path in front of him and he sees a big pile of shit over there in the grass and he's like he's over there dancing in it for some reason yeah i mean i i had to go back and read this quote again because like my mic's doing that thing where if i watch videos the same time as you guys you get a loud amount of feedback so i was listening to it so quiet i really was barely audible but upon reading it it is yeah he really fudged up the first part of that and it's exactly what

kyle said that he had a point going and then it just frittered away from his head just fluttered away and he has to fill it in with like a bunch of semi phrases that always dig him into shit where he does it all the time because because he likes to to always be talking it's good if you don't have these big pauses where you're thinking and uh and i'm and he sort of fills it in with sort of related topics and words and if they don't fall together well he looks like a real nazi sometimes he really does um i don't feel like he meant to say what he said there, though, because why would he? Why would he?

Like, he's at, like, a military thing. So how does he believe that? It is completely possible, given that this is the third time he's attacked people who suffer something during war, that he's actually kind of, I want to say careless about it. And uncaring is what I'm going for.

He's uncaring about what happens to military people when they go to war. I don't see that at all. Really? The POW, the Gold Star families. Because we just talked about how the POW thing had nothing to do with the military. He would have attacked John McCain if he were a plumber. Whatever John McCain had done in his past, he was going to attack that because john mccain was attacking him it's it's not like i feel like he could come out and say you know what snipers are pussies the only real strong people in the

military are the ones who go up and like hand-to-hand combat he might say that right and then if he does youtube will say you know what? What he was really trying to get at was something else. Like, there's nothing he can say that you won't just forgive. That's not true at all. What I'm saying here is that you're painting a narrative where, oh, anti-military, because these three instances all involve military, but it's clear

that they were all three totally different things. One is where he's speaking at a military thing, right? Everybody in the crowd is military, right? If he had respect for the prisoner of war thing, then he probably wouldn't have gone that way, right? You know, they just said, he's like, oh, they call him a hero, whatever.

You know, I like my soldiers not to get captured. They're the good soldiers. You know, like, I don't think he has any compassion or empathy for war being hard. And what would he? I don't think he has any compassion or empathy for war being hard and i don't think he's got i don't think he's ever slept on anything but silk sheets you know like this is have we i mean i've never fought on any wars like like like but but i wouldn't say those crazy things that he says sometimes either but what i'm getting at like like you're meant you're saying ah three things that involve the military anti-military but if you look at all three things separately before you combine them because they all sound alike the first thing is

him throwing shit back at somebody i i maintain that he would have if mccain had been a businessman who had failed in some way he'd have said that i like my businessmen when they when they don't operates is like i don't think he hates specifically any group of people. I think that he has an inability to not lash out at people who insult him. And so any kind of slight whatsoever, even the thing from the Khan family, anyone with

two cents in their head would be like, alright, we're not going to go after them. Obviously you know that Ted Cruz or whoever the hell like we're not doing that. It's not the right one. It says it's the right one. Fix your bike! It just feels like he's

always responding, and it reminded me, like I said a minute ago, of the Michael Richards thing, where he goes off and starts dropping N-bombs, despite the fact that he's probably not a big racist toward African-Americans or black people. I feel like Trump's the same way.

This latest incident feels like an accident to me. It didn't feel like he was trying to single anyone out. He was trying to say good things about the military, right? I'm not positive about the setting he was in there but correct me if i'm wrong wasn't he talking to like military personnel about ptsd why i don't know if that was the point i mean i guess it had to be something like that because he did bring up ptsd and it's not a very pleasant topic to bring up because it's sad yeah you wouldn't think he's like hey let's talk about ptsd honestly if if this is what he meant to say if the way people

are phrasing it is what he actually meant to say, and it wasn't just another gaffe of him being just ham-handed and poor at articulating his thoughts, you sincerely have to believe that he does not want to win this election if you think that's what he intentionally said. like fuck this i am out like south park is saying would actually say this and be like oh my god i really am panicking i'm just gonna go say people with ptsd you know it's not that tough and i could have handled it i'm gonna go and you talk about that and then let him run wild with it it's gonna be great like i i really do think that it's ridiculous to not everybody knows that he didn't mean to insult a bunch of veterans but it's also important to know that he, if that's the way people perceive it, that is important in a president. Like, you need to be articulate. Words matter.

It's not just something like, I'm going to go off on a mic and just, you know, freestyle for a little while and insult country leaders. Like, no, you have to be more tactful than that. And that's my biggest reservation about Trump, is that he has no tact. Anytime someone insults him,

a Gold Star family, for fuck's sake, insults him a gold star family for fuck's sake insults him and he can't let that go under the bridge like that's the most upsetting thing about Trump is that he sabotages himself every step of the way and he has no capacity to shut his mouth and know how to articulate his points he's terrible at it it's so

frustrating to watch him speak as you watch those words kind of form and then fall to ashes as they exit his mouth because they're so ineffectual. It's not my biggest problem with him. It is a problem because words matter and he's not good with them. Like he's good in a way. Like he's got this sort of huckster salesman down home thing going on that's effective. It was really effective at first. You watch it for a year and it starts to fall apart. What bothers me more is he doesn't seem to have the attention span or concentration to become actually good at this. You know, if I was watching a man before me become qualified to become president and emerge as like a leader of men, that would be one thing. Right.

But it's not. Right. a leader of men that would be one thing right but it's not right they're still asking him to this day like name a leader you you respect and he picks the germany one who's like the antithesis of donald trump that was gary johnson right they all named the three if i have my facts right and i mess things up from time to time it says merkle yeah trump clinton and johnson all said merkle and i think clinton said it to mock, if I have it right. I listened to the interview with Gary Johnson, and he was the one who was sitting there, and they're like,

just any foreign leader, any foreign leader. The correct answer from Gary Johnson would have been, well, I'm a libertarian. I'm not very fond of foreign leaders. If I'm not mistaken, he's the kind of isolationist libertarian. Maybe he's not. Maybe I'm wrong. That was my understanding. But to pick Merkel

as the one you like, one of the head people at the EU as a libertarian, that makes less than no sense. You just came off as a real idiot asshole. Her incredible liberal immigration policies, her statements about women, the whole thing. She's the sort of social justice

warrior that's almost come full effect and now it's to the harm of the women in her country. When one month ago, I was just about to say this. When one month ago, Trump said that Russia didn't invade Crimea. Do I have this right? And it turns out that, or they didn't. What the fuck? Ukraine.

Ukraine, and then it turns out Crimea is a part of Ukraine. He had that wrong. I'd have got that wrong too. But I'm looking for Trump to emerge as the type of person who knows these things when he shows up at the debates and his debate prep was just practicing zingers at lunch which is what his surrogate or something said it didn't seem like he did that at all um like I don't I think you're giving him too much credit is what what I'm saying. I hear you. And I don't need him to win a trivia game or a geography game. When Gary Johnson didn't know where Aleppo was, I don't fucking care. That's not why I'm interested in Gary Johnson.

Those aren't his strong points. I want to talk about simplifying taxes and stuff like that if we're talking about Gary Johnson. I want to talk about drug policy reform and shit like that let's i don't care about fucking aleppo you asshole but and in the same regard i don't care if trump knows where he is i don't i know that hillary clinton is going to know all of these world leaders because she's been like you know being crooked with them for a generation or so let's just call it i don't know what else to call it it works yeah the reason i don't like hillary clinton or one of them is that she knows all their names and their cell phone numbers and their secret emails where you know like that's why i don't like her

i hope donald trump doesn't know too many names it's i i just i require trump to like get more competent as this process evolves he really should it's shocking that he hasn't. Like we've all had a thing that's coming up and we're like, you know what? I gotta be prepared and not just a little prepared. I got to know this inside and out. If they ask, you know, you're you're quizzing yourself like what question do I not want them to ask me? And then you educate yourself in that area and then you go back again. What would I really hate for them to bring to the table oh well let's let's work on that let's focus on that and and disassemble that that bomb diffuse that bomb he's not doing that though he didn't come out with with some like amazing tax plan you know actually um that if you look at trump.com

right now we have a brand new tax plan. You're right. He's had three. I need him to come up with a new one that's good, though. A fourth one. You know what I mean? And I need him to be able to explain why it's good simply and in a way that tomorrow PolitiFact won't have the thing all the way in the red because he's just giving some bailout to every real estate tycoon that there ever was. And, like,

it's, you know, all the plumbers unions are the ones getting fucked in the ass. Does it bother you guys that like one, he seems to tell a lot of lies and look, I get the politicians lie, et cetera, but I feel like when Clinton lies,

it's like, actually, you know, that's been disproven or, you know, that's a misrepresentation of what actually happened. Trump will flat out just tell the story on both sides he'll be for both sides like you can't he's yeah i don't like that

climate change stuff i really don't like that i'd love that well that's a great example right he said climate change was a hoax perpetrated by the chinese in an effort to get a manufacturing edge i probably misquoted him a little bit, but that's the... He tweeted that. But to be fair, he tweeted that one time and several other times maybe. I don't fucking know. There were a couple tweets to that effect. Yeah, but way back in the beginning of this process,

they asked all the Republicans, you know, who here believes in climate change? And he raised his hand. You know, like, that's him on both sides. Wait, was this recent that he tweeted this? How long ago was he tweeted it was an oldish tweet because if it's like i think it goes back to thursdays then that's kind of a big deal no i think this goes back before that i think it goes back to when he was pushing

the birther thing pants on head retarded and firing people on nbc um it is pants on the head retarded but it appeals to a certain slice of america um i suppose slice but a slice at least one of the tweets was in 2012 right 2012 like i don't have any buoys out in the ocean i'm not taking readings maybe it is a big conspiracy i don't i don't accept that you can't say who knows It could be a global conspiracy. Whatever. Did the Chinese make it so that it won't drop below 90 all September? I think they did. That's what Trump is proposing here. If it's actually carbon emissions that made it so it wouldn't drop past 90 all September, then yes, they did cause that.

Yeah, they probably were involved. I get you because they... What would Trump do if he's going to say that, though... But it wasn't some conspiracy on behalf of China to be like, all these people in the Carolinas wanting to enjoy their summer. It's going to be far too hot for them. Far too hot. You know, everybody, men's temperature.

Oh, that's not what he's saying. What Trump was proposing with that tweet was the Chinese have somehow, and this is what I need from you, Trump, explain how they did this the chinese have have started this global warming conspiracy theory and as a result of it all the other countries are imposing upon their manufacturing all these strict uh regulations yeah so coal emissions things about vehicles and stuff which is more costly for them which makes

those businesses not able to expand and compete with china quite as much. It's kind of a James Bond type global conspiracy thing that Trump really doesn't have anything to put behind other than an overwhelming fear and hate of China, which he can, which is really easy to ball up if you kind of go in that direction. I just, so my wife follows this stuff super close she's become a news junkie she just you know give it give me more give me more follows these elections all day every day kind of and um and i can't help but you know get exposed to everything that's going on as well dude trump is unqualified that's the thing you know you could call him pants on head retarded but i don't believe he's dumb he's probably smarter than me you know but

is he qualified to be a world leader no he's really really not and i don't think hillary is either though and that's the biggest problem is only one of them has had access to and jeopardized tens of thousands of classified documents. Potentially. Only one of them. That's not the kind of thing, in my opinion, that's like... Let's get real.

Trump might tweet out some, like, he really might start just being, like, that comedian from the Bill Burr sketch, like, four years ago, like, you know what they're doing now? now like taking pictures on his phone and periscoping like the oval office all the secret has done nothing to imply that he's better at keeping secrets i want trump on twitter at 3 a.m 3 a.m getting in an argument with a foreign leader and then taking him out it's not a question of secret keeping It's a question of someone deliberately was hiding things while in a government position, important documents. Like that shows a gigantic breach of trust between that individual and her constituents.

Not the people in her little crowd, the actual constituency there. Yeah, that's bullshit. All the shady shit that goes on with her. Like it's so easy to rip on trump because he is just a terrible candidate but hillary is probably the only person on the planet who's even worse it's shocking like she is horrible she's don't you think it's a little loathsome person do you think if donald trump had called tens of millions of people deplorable and then insinuated that huge swaths of democrats were basement-dwelling,

dejected people with no futures who worked as baristas, do you think it would have got a little bit of news coverage? It would have. And the only news coverage that I saw from mainstream media, because I did research, like I looked at Fox, CNN. Obviously, Fox goes more hard because they're more conservative. But CNN, MSNBC, the only things you see about those quotes about Hillary are defenses of it. And, you know, clickbait articles.

Five reasons this quote doesn't matter. And Trump's a Nazi. That's not true. When Hillary had her bad weekend, right? And her bad weekend was two things. It was the fainting spell and the heat and the pneumonia thing. And it was the quote where she said, A half of Trump supporters are deplorable. Or a basket of deplorables.

Those things dominated the news cycle. It's all we heard about. It covered the internet. It covered every news station. It was all over the place. And Hillary tanked in the polls to the point where it was like, damn, Trump might win this thing.

You know, 538, you see all everything swing back in his direction. And the topic didn't really change again until the debates where she wiped the floor with him so to act like you know the media is only looking at the silly things trump says dude trump kicks ass at saying silly things and it's a constant news cycle not because they're easy on her but because he's an idiot he's an idiot and and the other thing the other thing that really works against him i guess and it's really it's worked for him too is how much trump audio there is if you just took if you just took that if you just compiled the audio of of him on a microphone radio tv whatever and

her on a microphone radio tv everything over the last two years i bet he dominates the fuck out of her i bet it's 20 times as much a easily 20 25 times as much because that because i remember when we when he was fighting the republicans he was up every morning and i mean like five six you know those morning shows you got to be up at four if you're calling it five he's calling into multiple ones like all day till like into the into into the into till like noon and then he's going on sean hannity that night for like a primetime special but wait he'll be on sean hannity just ask my friend sean hannity i bet sean i when i when i heard him say that i was like no one is calling sean hannity i've told you all these things that nobody's calling sean

hannity i cannot believe it i've, the secretary, like, oh my god. I was so uncomfortable when he talked about Sean Hannity for four minutes where it was like he kept imploring people, just will someone call Sean Hannity? Get him in here! One of you out there, well, please call Sean Hannity. He promised me

he would help if I got in trouble, and I'm not feeling confident right now. It's like it was a lifeline. He's going to phone a friend during the next debate yeah what if you put sean hannity on speaker tell up the like i need you to open up big you know well there was a uh it's not political but uh cnn and i've only seen fox news report about it, so I don't trust everything Fox says. But apparently CNN is being accused of editing the footage of that Charlotte shooting thing when they showed it on TV. There was a part where the cops yelled, put the gun down, put the gun down. And they fucking cut that out.

That's not pertinent. It is. That's the part you cut, Woody. That stays on the cutting room floor. We don't need that. that's the like that's the part you cut woody that that stays on the cutting room floor we don't need that makes it racist i've defended cnn on this show although in my defense i stopped about two three weeks ago right like they lost me when they edited the footage of hillary walking or getting carried into her van oh my god they lost me when when they had uh those reporters doing like live remotes from like i don't remember where they supposedly were somewhere scary or dangerous or where some bad

shit was happening but in the background you could see like a news van go through one reporter's shot and into another reporter's shot so you knew they were both in a fucking parking lot in safety and it was like she's just standing there lying to us right now i don't know if it's that they were in safety it's just that they were in the same spot maybe that was it to me the way i remembered it there was a forest fire or a shooting or something she's like we are just feet away from where i thought it was the madman holds the hostage it could have more than once in my foggy memory it was the boston bombing and they were acting like they were in different spots but the van drove. That was cheap. That was bad.

I didn't like it either. They lost me when, so people don't know the edit for the Hillary footage. She's getting carried into this van after having, well, the first thing wasn't really fainting. She was just kind of woozy and she was leaning against a post and she like took

a down step and sort of straightened herself up with the help of leaning against a post and she like took a down step and sort of straightened herself up with the help of leaning on a post cnn showed that and then as she's stepping into the car like if she hadn't been caught by what i assume is secret service she would have fallen to the ground they cut that out and i'm like all right i'm done as a guy who's edited thousands of videos i know exactly how that isn't an accident. So – You're going click, click, click, frame by frame with the arrow key. And cut.

Exactly. I made thousands of videos. Too far, too far. Not an accident. She really looked unwell there. Go back a few frames, Jim. It's so difficult to find news. Could you fix the color of her face?

She looks like a ghoul. Who is an actual source that you feel is pretty reliable? Now? I'm trying to, because I go around, and then there's obvious stuff that's crazy to one side. If I go to Alex Jones' website, everything's a conspiracy. Don't do that. Which means I was just talking to chiz about this where i was

like yeah i listened to some clips of alex jones like just like scattered on the internet before and he sounded pretty reasonable and then i like watched a full video of him once and it was like this guy is a madman for people that don't know alex jones he's um a right wing like radio talk show host and a marvel superhero he's a conspiracy like any conspiracy you can think of that guy's on it there was just one he's like that comedian we had on but like he's the perfect example of like a broken clock is right twice a day because if everything is a conspiracy eventually you're gonna be like just see i told you i told you this was a conspiracy it's like what about like the last six things no no no this is what we're on to now like really he thinks there's lizard people

and i'm trying i want to get to the source of that he thinks there are lizard people in the government and i'm like there might be is that a rip on him that is unfair right like use accuracy in your in your teardowns or is it a thing that he said because i'm assured it's a thing he said but i haven't seen the source so well yeah i don't think you need to make up lizard people to show that he's crazy because he's he like i guarantee he believes in that moon base stuff oh he believes in worse than that i can't remember what the the like harmless thing he was saying did this but he was saying that the government was um putting something in our water or something to turn boys gay and to make them more feminine and uh and stern's like uh and i can't i wish i should just google it and find out

what it is but he's like it's turned it's turned like well you're saying here that uh um what's that stuff they put in uh water for your teeth fluoride that uh fluoride makes little boys gay alex what about that one? Stern asked him. He's like, well, there's been lots of studies. You see it with these amphibians, right? It gets leaked into their environment. All of a sudden, they're not interested in mating. Nope, nope.

They're pairing off these male-male groups. There you go right there. And, hey, this is just one of many, many things. Let's go over here to the high-power line. They're so gay, they're dropping dead from fluoride poisoning by the hundreds. It was pretty outrageous. The thing is, amphibians can change their sex.

So when they go into these male-male relationships, one of them turns into a girl. Hey, look. If that is the direction you're using to disassemble Alex Jones' argument, you're going way too fucking far. You don't need to be a herpetologist to figure this out. Come back. We can debunk

this right on the surface. Some fish can change their say. Who do you go to that you actually trust news? Because everywhere I connect I feel like I'm trying to get fooled. It really depends on the particular news story and what's going on.

If it's something that doesn't benefit right wing or left wing, you could pretty much go anywhere you want, right? Like if there's a forest fire. A catastrophe, right, right. If there's a forest fire and they don't have a Republican governor who just cut funding to the forest department or something like that, and now the watchtowers aren't manned, then that won't be a big issue. So get your news wherever you want. But if it's a bipartisan issue, then I feel like you got to look around everywhere. Then you have to combine sources because no one thing can be trusted. There is no one out there that can be trusted. And not the New York Times, not CNN, not

Fox News, not ABC, NBC, CBS, and not the Reddit comments either, shockingly. Certainly not those. My God. The Reddit comments are where I go if there is a disaster or something going on right here and now on the ground, because they

won't feed you any bullshit and they won't uh temper it or uh or censor it at all you'll just get what's happening they'll be like look i was just here um that guy threw a brick at that cop before they started spraying everyone pepper spray you're like oh well shit you throw a brick at a cop everybody gets pepper spray that's what fucking happens and then but then you go over to cnn and it's just like you know a cop spraying a black girl on the face with bear mace and you're like holy shit those evil cops you know so you've got to go to a lot of different places to actually figure out what really happened and that's nothing new you know you can go back to uh the revolutionary war and and and i bet it's pretty hard federalist

papers exactly exactly it's pretty hard to get a straight story about what's going on with that whole monarchy over there and our tea prices. In terms of... Don't these facts seem a little too convenient for the Federalists? I don't know if I'm buying this publication anymore. I like direct sources whenever there's a chance. If there's a forest fire, I want to see footage of the fire. If there's a Trump quote, I want to see footage of the fire. If there's a Trump quote, I like to see Trump speak the quote.

And that stuff is usually not fudged. Although there was an edit in the last one. And when I see those edits, I'm very suspicious always. Yeah, anytime there's an edit, it's because it's either like a 60-minute quote, which he tends to do because he does not

put periods in sentences well, or it's because they have an agenda and they need to cut something out. In some ways, he's a great speaker, right? He's charismatic, but he doesn't choose his words well. Perfect, perfect. Like, Seth Meyers has done this thing at least twice. He's a late, late-night show host. And he says, look, you know, Trump is a brilliant showman,

and if you hear him say this, then you might not get what he actually said. So I am going to read the quote for you word for word. And he puts it on the screen. You see the text. And he reads it along. And, of course, you can't help but read it along with him. And you realize what he genuinely said. Whereas if you hear it come from trump i don't know the

inflection and stuff it just makes it better it's because like the inflection the way he speaks is almost like like there are words that are important when he's on message and then there are subtext words where his brain's working through the next part where he'll just like kyle said like i'm a huge supporter of the veterans, I love veterans, veterans are my best friends, I would do a veterans birthday party three weeks ago, and you wouldn't believe how much fun it was, and then he goes into, like, the next

spiel, and then sometimes, he just, in that subtext, lets his mind go on its own, and it just says something retarded. And so, when you listen to it, it's easier to filter out, a lot of whores over in korea huh and then and you'll be like oh shit did he just say fucking korean whores to that veteran did you see the thing giuliani's getting in trouble for now this one i'm on the republican

side what do you do so he said i'm gonna mess up the quote but the key part of it is a woman he's like you know we'd rather have trump as president because on the other hand, you have a woman who something, something, something. And then I saw him say it again, almost word for word, but he swapped out a woman with like this person. And I'm talking to my wife about it, and she's like, he's saying, I think it's subconscious, that, you know that you know you have

to have trump because otherwise you'll have a woman and i'm like that's only an insult if you consider being a woman an insult right you know if he said this guy or or you know this man you wouldn't be all upset about it but he's like you have to have trump otherwise you'll have a woman who thinks guns are bad i made that part up but you know roll with it it's a descriptive word to any rational person to anyone else it's ah you know the sexism run amok if you're looking for trouble you can find it in that but i don't think giuliani deserves any trouble for that one no we all love giuliani he did a good job i'm not in love with giuliani i think he's kind of a laughingstock but come on he took down the mob you gotta appreciate that right come

from the garden state actually who knows he did he absolutely made new york safer that's a strong point he did now he was a stop and frisk guy but oh and it worked and he had and he took down the mob like come on like whether or not he had a stop and frisk was unconstitutional is one thing but it did work because go figure if you make everyone in the city think that at any time you could like be like oh suspicious pat him down people are going to be like oh should i carry this gun on this drug deal no maybe i shouldn't carry the guns or the drugs because a cop could just see me where my giant you know drug carrying pants and Chris when I hear that Giuliani took down the mob I I was like oh so he was some bureaucrat who like said yeah go get him he did he did that in the same

way that like I guess can't get his in London there you go but no he was he was on the ground this was the guy who was like, he's in those rooms with the big boards with all the lines drawn. Yeah, with the yarn. He's in there. He's piecing things together for the mystery late at night. He's the yarn stringer. He's in there tying the clothespins together and shit. We got lefty two hands up atop here and Johnny No-Nose on the right.

He was in legitimate danger, you know, because he's targeting his thing. If I remember correctly, was like putting wire taps in and putting listening devices in these mobsters' homes and stuff. And so he's going after the mob bosses. That was the new tactic that they had too. So he was in a lot of danger, and he took that upon himself when he didn't have to. I'm sure someone reached out to pay Giuliani off at one time or another. You're right. That's a good point and uh and the stop and frisk thing dude it while i get that it oh shucks i've

been using the wrong video for too long i'm sorry everybody i fixed it for like 15 minutes damn it we've been like off center in the pictures but But back on topic. The stop and frisk thing puts a tool in the policeman's toolbox that is useful. If they could just see anyone on a street corner who looks suspicious and start frisking them for finding trouble, then of course it cuts down on crime. I think we can all agree that New York is a pretty unique example, at least in this country. When you look at the population density that you have there, what's good for New York isn't necessarily going to be good for the rest of the country, and vice versa. So stop and frisk might be a good idea when you've got that massive concentration of people that you're trying to protect. When one criminal with a gun or an explosive or whatever really he's much more

dangerous you know a bad guy with a gun in kansas really can't get up to too much trouble but in new york there's just so many goddamn people um i i go back to what i said before i don't like the stop and frisk if i'm getting stopped frisked i i i don't like it because it seems like i i looked it up apparently it was ruled not unconstitutional by a court at one point or something related to it that they used to rationalize it was made was ruled as constitutional i don't know the specifics i'm not really on a side i'm just that's what i remember so even if it isn't even if it's something we consider constitutional now i'm still not that cool with it like i don't i feel like you know we're giving up too much freedom for security there and i would prefer not to do that yeah i agree yeah i agree

and how much security we're really getting if we're stopping drugs i really just don't give a fuck like like you should be able to have a big drug pocket for all i'm concerned or anything in that pocket's okay. I just don't care about drugs. I'm really libertarian with that, and I'm like, what would happen if we just legalized cocaine? Would everyone's noses fall off, and would the business centers collapse, and would we spiral into oblivion like the Romans?

No, no. We would just stop spending as much money on on drug enforcement and start spending on drug treatment i think more people would use drugs if you could just easily buy them off a shelf i i think more people would but i don't think it would become some like huge pandemic of cocaine use like a lot i think what would happen what you see though is that is that once it's not a naughty prohibited thing anymore anymore, it loses some of its original customers. So it might gain some new people who are like, hey, it's fucking legal now. That was all that was ever stopping me from doing a line of Coke.

Not that a line of Coke would hurt anybody. And then you've also got that group who's going to be like, oh, well, everybody's fucking doing it. You can bite it right-aid. Yeah, Coke's not cool anymore. Let's go back to meth. I don't have experience with Coke, but I'm told that chemically it's similar to Adderall. And the nice thing about Adderall is you take it under a doctor's supervision.

He sort of checks up on you. I mean, there's supposed to be some level of patient care that comes with Adderall. Sometimes there is. I got a big bottle upstairs. Ain't nobody checking up on me so big all right all right i hear you but three refills see i don't think see i know where you're going with i don't think coke is your best example i think your best example is going to be heroin

because heroin is one of the easiest drugs to OD on. And now there's street synthetic imitators of heroin that like fentanyl or something like that. And it's incredibly potent. And maybe it's not true, but I saw some little infographic where it was like, oh, lethal dose of heroin, lethal dose of this. And I'm like, well, that is too small to be lethal.

That's a very powerful thing. that amount of anything should be fine I've spilled more salt by accident one salt shake was like a lethal dose of fentanyl yeah fentanyl yeah and so basically people are killing themselves on accident by maybe they're addicted to heroin and they think oh I got my dose down so you know obviously like you know anything about heroin you you build a resistance they have to slowly be up in your uh your dosage and whatnot and they may inject too much of the wrong shit and then they're dead and that's really shitty if anything i would get that off the market the word could get out with it like hey you know what if you don't want to buy adderall which is so expensive because it's produced in this way and that way you could

just get coke off the shelf and it's a similar thing but it can i go on yeah yeah i don't want to derail your train with like bullshit facts maybe i'm off go ahead and educate me it's so goddamn cheap dude it's so cheap yeah yeah like like um when i fill my prescription i usually get two things i get some cialis my cialis is so goddamn expensive like i i um i think the bottle is 300 or something like that um and it's not one of those bottles where you're like ka-chunk ka-chunk ka-chunk yeah we're good for a while it's like 30 pills so it's like 10 a. What, just me? The dosage says to take three at once, but I did that once, and that was just too much. Are you joking about that? No. Well, you break them down into different milligrams, three of what, right?

So they're 10 milligrams, I think, or something like that. And he told me to take three. Three was far too much. So I take one occasionally if I'm looking for a little extra horsepower. But that's $300 a bottle. But then my Adderall, it's like $8. was far too much. So I take one occasionally if I'm looking for a little extra horsepower. But that's $300 a bottle. But then my Adderall, it's like $8. It's like $8 or something. It's so fucking cheap.

I don't know why, but it's incredibly cheap. How often do you take Adderall? That's the same reason people are going from prescription pills to heroin. It's because prescription pills are really expensive, and you can get heroin on the street for much much cheaper like it's heroin's really having a big comeback i hear you but maybe that's a better example like you were saying of

people who replace a monitored drug with an unmonitored drug because we legalized it yeah yeah i but there's also like the like if they legalize heroin i don't i i'd close to 100% sure that no one on this call would be like, let's give it a go. I've heard how good it is. Because you've heard too much about it, and that's one of the drugs that you know that D.A.R.E. wasn't that far off on. They ruined their credibility with weed and a lot of shit, and so then when they came around with faces of meth and heroin, you were like, you fucking liars. But then you see a couple people at a mid-Missouri gas station with meth mouth, and you're like, all right, they were pretty favorable to them in Breaking Bad because this is rough. Yeah, Jesse's teeth were always nice and pearly white. That's bullshit.

They should have been rotting the fuck out. Yeah, they should have been disgusting. Little black nubs, little rotted peaks, like nasty nasty slimy stalactites it's no good i take adderall when i got some shit to do i'll take uh like 10 milligrams in the morning and then 10 more in the afternoon to keep that high keep that high going keep staying maximum overdrive sweet spots for 12 hours 12 hours of the sweet spot like uh if you've got a lot of boxes to move, and I don't mean like two hours

of boxes, if you're moving boxes today, oh, there's nothing better. You'll have so much fun. You'll make a little Tetris game out of the shit in your head, and efficiency will be the thing that makes you so happy. You're like, oh, I so efficiently stacked 87

boxes into that corner look at that oh i wish i had a bunch more wait i do fuck yeah and it makes doing things like that so nice did you ever try to have sex on it and get addy dick um i basically what happens anytime you take any kind of speed i think is. Is that like a whiskey dick? Oh, okay. I'm guessing you can't get it out. I said is it like whiskey dick? That's something I... Whiskey dick...

I've never had addy dick. I have no idea. I've had whiskey dick, though, and I'm sure it's similar to that, but with speed. So you're like, same situation, but you're really upset about it. No, I've never had...

I definitely have never had that problem. If I'm taking it, then I've got stuff going on and sex is the furthest thing from my mind. It's a work day if I'm going to take it. Because if you take it regularly, it loses its edge. It's not as much fun. It's not as good. It's not as effective.

But if you haven't taken it in a month and you take 20 milligrams, oh my god it's it's it really is a superpower steroids for your productivity i i i i swear that's exactly what they are we've been through all before though yeah i just post all those statistics about how bad it is for you fucking cry babies worldies. World Chess Federation banned it for a performance-enhancing drug. Really? No. No.

I'm glad that wasn't me. Because it could have been. It could have been. I was like, what are they testing for that? That makes sense, though. I wouldn't want them to be able to take that while they're playing chess. I know all those guys who were pro-Cod players are taking a lot of Ad adderall i can't remember who it was who said

at that time they were like oh we all take it we all take lots of it um and then somebody was like don't fucking say that jesus christ we're trying to get like real deal sponsors here espn shack is on board fuck off dude don't tell about about the Addies. Those guys are all taking a lot of Adderall. If your job is to hyper-focus on a screen and then twitch in the perfect way as fast as you can, of course. I wonder if they practice and train on Adderall.

Are they on Adderall on the daily? Are they popping Adderalls on their Twitch streams all the time? I mean, Mark McGuire didn't just take steroids before a game. Right? I bet it's all the time i mean mark mcguire didn't just take steroids before a game no right i because it i bet it's all the time i think that's if he had his head wouldn't have gotten that big his head was out of control so big so was um what's his name um um sammy um sammy sosa had a had a whole other thing yeah it was so it was i kind of felt bad for jose but not really because he's such a douchebag but he came out originally and and he

was like oh yeah everybody in baseball does steroids 80 do greenies you know he's like breaking it down all the amphetamine use the steroid use all the stuff that they're doing and everybody was like bullshit fuck you jose can say go nobody trusts you you charge fans five thousand dollars a day to hang out and be your friend you're a piece of shit so nobody believed him and then of course like five years later and everybody knows and balco is going on and they're getting buried they're talking about putting bonds in prison and shit so baseball is a fucking disgrace mcguire and sosa seemed to have the climax of their careers at the perfect time before that hammer came down

like they almost like got in under the radar where like that that closing wall at the bad guy's headquarters is closing you're trying to slide out and they just barely went under and escaped like they tripped the alarm at the time and like they tripped the alarm they tripped their alarm on the way out that's what happened all of All of a sudden, they're hitting 70-something homers out of nowhere. Like, we've never seen any shit like that before. He's like, all of a sudden, this guy who used to be this skinny, muscular, powerful, but quick, base-stealing, you know, hitting for a single and then stretching it out to a double kind of player turns into the Hulk who can just hit the ball so he's got this arm brace on his elbow he

stands there like Robocop and he hits the ball like a machine so fucking hard that nobody's ever seen it before they're walking him they're walking they would walk runs in bases loaded situation Bonds comes to the plate walk him we'll take we'll let yeah okay we only have to take one run and we get a slow base runner now? Deal. Deal. That's better than letting Bonds try to fucking hit a grand slam here. That's what he became. So it really rang the dinner bell for everybody to be like,

wait a minute, I've been watching this game for 35 years. This is bullshit. What's going on? And then you get all the leaks in Balco and ESPN got a hold of it. It was a beautiful thing back in the day that was a great drama my dad has the like you know those newspapers where it'll show like when sammy sosa or someone was going for home runs and say like you know mcguire gets 58 like mcguire was so out of control that like i was looking through that stack like a few years ago just had a curiosity and it was like you know i don't know august 1st you know mcguire hits 40 august 2nd mcguire 41 and 42 you know august 3rd like mcguire 43 44 and 45 solid day and it was like and at the

time people were like can you believe how good the cards are doing and like nobody was like this guy's clearly cheating because he goes up there and like oh like i remember him it was a big deal i remember it seemed like if he got one homer in a game it was like ah i mean good but not great that's when i love to go to games because every time big mac hit a home run everybody in st louis got like a two dollar big mac the next day and so it was a guaranteed McDonald's. I just stopped doing the promotion. If I recall, because it was every day you got $2 Big Macs.

So McDonald's had a promotion during the Olympics where like you'd peel off a thing and it would show the event. And if that event got like a gold, silver or bronze, you've got different things like for that so it was a gold you get like a big mac a drink and a fry and then the big mac the drink and the fry would have like more events on it well this is 1984 and the soviets and the germans and all these fuckers pulled out and america just crushed it on fucking everything so I'd like go to McDonald's roll the dice on buying like a french fry and it's like 100 meter

free oh it's 30 more tickets Big Mac fry to drink like you know the drink is like fencing nothing boxing we want to go home give me more give me more you could You could eat, like, all afternoon. Because every fucking piece of food had another ticket on it. Wow, what a losing strategy. That's exactly why they do what they do now with, like, some bullshit monopoly algorithm where, like, you can't get a ticket that gives you anything unless it's at least, like, six bucks. There's no algorithm involved with that. There's a fucking guy who decided to, like, make himself win every year and give the money to charity. Are you serious? Yeah understand a million dollar prize they um like they'll make like baltic avenue really really super rare so you just never get the monopoly yeah well yeah see

well you would want board so so what you would need is to get is to just own um a territory like like boardwalk and park place is like what you need for a million dollars I think. So Boardwalk's infinitely, there's only one Boardwalk right? So the guy making the game took the one Boardwalk and fucking I don't remember who it was, but gave it to the children the people fund

the human fund, money for people money for people yeah, he just took the, he donated it, it wasn't even in play and i think he did it like multiple years maybe every year so which really pisses me off because in my car like i remember when i was 16 17 18 i had that mcdonald's map in the glove box i'd get it out unfold that motherfucker peeling those things off sticking them on there well if i get one of these one of these or one of those we got it made

baby i got seven different ways to win and there are none i did the exact same thing with the map like in high school just seeing it you know i would like offer to like go buy mcdonald's and like i'll get you something from the dollar menu if it has a ticket on it like just to see if i could get them and now hearing that that was rigged that's more upsetting to me than any leaked emails or tax issue or anything. The fact that that was rigged, how many medium fries did I buy when all I wanted was a small?

But they can't put the tag on the little paper thing so they don't let you buy those. There you go. They have the tag. Hashbrown was the most efficient way to get your tickets. You got two tickets on a hash brown, and those things are like 80 cents or something. So some mornings... I have a joke that's actually pretty funny.

I will have all your hash browns and then a medium fry in the hash brown container. I have a joke that's pretty funny. Are you ready? All right. How do you milk sheep? How do you milk sheep? How do you milk sheep? How do you milk sheep? How do you milk sheep? How do you milk

sheep? Don't say it yet. You're unlikely to get it. Very carefully? I don't know. With iPhone accessories. Get it? They're calling Apple fans sheep. I get it. I thought it was pretty good.

I'm really excited. There's a new Mac Pro. It's supposed to come out in October. I've been waiting for it for months now. Mac Pro? A MacBook Pro. Is that what you said? I said Mac Pro, but I said it wrong.

I meant MacBook Pro. It's their professional laptop line. Yeah. I want that. Mizzou pretty much forced everyone to get one of those when i went there because like i guess the year before i started college they or maybe like two years they started this huge partnership with apple to where when you like went into the mizzou bookstore it was like all the newest apple shit and then one commodore 64 if you wanted a PC from like 1979 or whenever those were around.

And it was like even asking them like, hey, can I use a PC in class? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you're not going to want to because the Blackboard we use is made for Apple, and it's going to work a lot, but you might not be able to download all your assignments the same. It was like this is ridiculous. Like I have to buy a Mac now just to be sure that I don't, like, log into Blackboard at the end of the semester and see a message like, have you guys been getting the PowerPoints? And it's like, what?

I didn't want to do that. And it ended up being fine. All the people who rip on Macs for being shitty, like, maybe that's not a huge group of people, but I feel like in my head there's a lot of PC people who hate Macs for some reason. I don't know enough about computers to know the difference, but it worked fine with me. It was like made of metal, so I dropped it quite a bit, and it was fine.

Yeah, I bought my Mac. I bought a MacBook Air in like 2013. I use it every day, hours and hours every day since 2013. It's like 1,200 days old, and it's pretty much the same as it was the day I bought it. That's so impressive to me. People rip on Apple's for being more expensive, and I'll grant that. I think spec for spec, they cost a little more. I've been through three or four laptops since you bought that one, though.

So we're all good there. Right? And I'm happy. And it's not slower. And the battery lasts 10 hours. I'm sorry. I don't have one because i want a game i want to be able to have you know my computer has i don't know it's a 590 some kind of mobile video card but it'll run all my games you know it'll run all the games that i want to

play and i can but it's just a brick i'm giving up a lot for that for that thing that you could slice bread with i think when you open it right yeah yeah so actually my i bought um i've had two gaming computers one broke and it's just not in service anymore and uh the other my wife used and she's not happy with it either and it broke and we had it repaired like the screen broke on it and um i think somewhere like the wi-fi antennas in the screens now it gets really poor wi-fi reception and we're just not happy with it so she's going to get my current mac air and i'm going to get the new one and i think we'll be happier i don't know i'm just pretty psyched they're really good like you say gaming is not what they do well i think that the like in my

world i'd like to have a gaming PC that's a desktop and my portable. I just don't want to give up all that reliability and battery life and lightweight. Oh, the battery life is not even in the same category. I think I got like two and a half hours of battery life when I'm gaming. It's putting off so much heat that if I'm in bed gaming, the dog is like nuzzling up to get near the exhaust. It's like, ooh, you got a little heater here, boss. All right.

Is it loud? I got headphones on when I'm on it. No, it's not loud. But it's really nice if you have somewhere to plug that motherfucker in and you got time to kill. Like I've got it out at the airport and played Civilization. And like my airplane arrives and it's time to get on board. I'm like, shit!

I wish I'd had three hours layover instead of just two. It's really nice. Now Civ you can play. I can't speak to the new one that's not out yet, but my daughter plays Civ all the time on a Mac Air.

Oh, well, yeah. I guess Civ would work, huh? Yeah. I got Company of Heroes on. I got my whole Steam library on there. That's nice. Because sometimes I'll be down here, and whenever I go up to bed, it's nice to be able to game down here, and everything's in 4K and 1440, 3440,

or whatever the fuck. But then I don't mind going upstairs and getting on that 1080p laptop if I'm in bed. I was mowing today and i stopped and i talked to the at&t fiber installation guy and he says in a month or two i'll be able to buy like fiber to the house like gigabit fiber i would assume because that's what at&t sells everywhere else but he was real careful he's like you know i i don't want to promise a date i can't promise a date i'm like chill dude like i'm not going to sue you. Like, one month, two months, five months? He's like, yeah, one or two.

And I'm like, what I wonder is what it costs to run it through my yard. Like, I've got this long front driveway. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was like $6,000 to install it at my house or something. Would that be worth it? Like, would that be that much better than what your current internet is because i thought your internet was pretty solid right um i would have a decision to make you know like because like you say i look i don't think it's that much i like more i hope it's not but um if i have 30 up and 300 down it's almost never the weak point if i got yeah that's incredibly i might be like yeah give me the 300 package you know if it's like 10 cheaper than the gigabit because it's

never the weak link i don't know but i'm uh we'll see what it costs and what it what's involved yeah i'm hoping that there's going to be some need for these incredible gigabit internet connections in the near future. I'm hoping for some sort of – I don't know what that is, but some sort of streaming, I suppose. Media going one way or another, maybe both. But something that can harness a gigabit connection and make it worth it. Sorry, go ahead. make it worth it. Sorry, go ahead.

If you're choosing between gigabit or half that or a quarter that, who is going with gigabit unless you're running a small business here, in which case you're probably another category anyway? Yeah. What I kind of need is for everyone else to get better internet. The reason Twitch

only lets you upload it, what is it, three and a half megabits, is because somebody upload it what is it three and a half megabits is because somebody needs to download that at three and a half megabits and they'll cut people off and they'll say twitch sucks i need the people who have bad connections now to get on my level and then the whole internet will get better you know that it would almost be more helpful for me if all the rural houses were upgraded than to get upgraded personally for sure yeah definitely makes sense i didn't think about it like that ever yeah but um yeah so it's pretty cool i don't know elon musk says we're gonna elon musk said we could have a

million people on mars in 60 years or something i'm. That is an easy claim to make. I bet we have a trillion on Venus in 200. I can't tell if he's full of shit or not. Like, on one hand, he's a very accomplished guy, and he seems to be doing what he says he's going to do with this car company, and he obviously did great things with PayPal. SpaceX? I am unqualified to judge SpaceX.

All I hear about is when shit blows up but people who are into that get real excited by it so i guess that's cool um but like i don't know i guess yeah i do something cool what the hell i feel like a youtube viewer hey i'm thinking of doing this i think you should too fuck it you know I'll be here on the side enjoying your shit I don't like it when I get over sold on things because then it makes me come back around and question the initial thing like if he had said like

it is totally possible that we will have you know a space station on Mars within the next century or something and be like wow you know that probably is possible that's gonna be really neat but saying we're gonna have how many people are on earth seven billion yeah like like a huge amount of them are gonna be on mars in i'll probably be around like another 40 years just 65 all right 60 years in 60 years like because that is so i'll be alive 60 years from now

hopefully or actually i'll be 85 i'll be 103 you'll be dead kyle you'll be alive 60 years from now, hopefully. Or actually, I'll be 85. I'll be 103. Yeah, you'll be dead, Kyle. You'll be probably dead. Let's stretch it out with medical advancement. It'll be all right. Yeah, okay, we'll all stretch it out. We'll all be here! Don't say that!

There's no way a billion people are going to be on Mars in 60 years unless we start shipping them there now. Did he say a billion? I thought you said a billion. He said one million, but I think his thing is that oh okay well now i feel like an asshole yeah a little bit i was wondering why you asked he really hates elon musk yeah yeah i don't know i think it is ridiculous and i thought i was surprised you weren't pulling that out yeah i think he's talking about um using some sort of antimatter engine

which would be much faster than conventional rockets and such so you could zip on back and forth um so who knows you know who would know x jaws would have an opinion on this he would have a good that that quote from stars is such bullshit it says what is it that they can do the kessel run and under some number of parsecs as if par measurement of time how did we get on that? Did Taylor say that? The measurement of distance. He said it. Oh, okay. I did not follow. I was like, X-Tals would know about that.

And you're like, that quote is such bullshit. And I'm like, what did he say? I didn't follow. In Star Wars, Han Solo is bragging about the Millennium Falcon. And he says something to the nature of, it can do the Kessel Run, which I suppose is some In like 12 parsecs, but apparently a parsec is not a measurement of time it's a measurement of distance, therefore

that's like me saying I can do the mile in just over 5,000 feet. Yeah. If he just said a million then, I still think that's kind of ridiculous to believe a million in 60 I mean, 60 years let's think about it there were i mean 60 years ago segregation the only people really happy were water fountain manufacturers

like 60 years from now 60 years from now it'll be so it'll be indistinguishable so yeah maybe a million people isn't that ridiculous maybe something happens like 12 years from now it'll be so it'll be indistinguishable so yeah maybe a million people isn't that ridiculous maybe something happens like 12 years from now that just changes the game like well i don't know i don't know how successful it is to be honest but it's kind of nice to just know stuff like that is going on so that every once in a while you're like oh that's neat here's my problem 30 years ago was 1986, right? In 1986, we had been to the moon. We were sending some probes out into sort of deep space, some stuff over to Mars and different moons and shit like that.

But we weren't really going anywhere except for the moon, like humans. 30 years later, same thing, better fidelity on the cameras. Oh, well, that's just not true. We've landed spacecraft on like six or seven different space bodies. Let me see when the first spacecraft was landed on Mars. 1998. I think it's 1998.

I'm thinking it's the 70s. The first, the Viking lander, the Viking 1 and lander 2, there were orbiters and a lander in 1976. What kind of lander? No, they literally landed something and sent pictures back

in 1976. Did they? Yeah, but those pictures were shit. They were compared to today. There's some HD dirt. I don't know what they Yeah, but those pictures were shit. They were compared to today. Now we've got Google pictures of HD dirt. But, you know, I don't know what they landed, but since then they keep landing those rovers that drive around. The one we got on Mars now is big. It's a big vehicle.

It's not like a little thing you could pick up. It's bigger than a lawnmower. I think it's as big as a car. It's big. But, you know, since then they've landed on a lawnmower. I think it's as big as a car. It's big. Yeah. But, you know, since then, they've landed on a lot of asteroids. They've landed on two or three different planets and moons. But, no, they haven't really made any reaches in manned space travel. But their budget's been gutted, right?

They landed a thing. I think it had jets on it, and it sort of gently landed on Mars and sent back, by comparison, shitty pictures, right? landed on Mars and sent back, by comparison, shitty pictures, right? And then in 30 years, we upgraded to, like, I don't know, Wall-E type things that can sort of ride around and take better pictures.

It's much bigger than that. I think the first one they sent to Mars was that Wall-E. The size doesn't impress me. You're a size queen. It doesn't? Nah. I think size is the most important thing in this whole thing. It's about getting material. That's the whole problem with space travel, right?

Is how expensive it is to get each pound from Earth to space and then the moon and then Mars or whatever. They've got a huge fucking craft on Mars right now. That thing's big. You make a powerful argument. I guess in 30 years, they've gone from shitty pictures to a rover that takes good pictures. And that's just... Soil samples, drills down hundreds of feet. It just hasn't captured my imagination. They found liquid water on Mars.

Wait, wait, wait. Actually, that's news to me. They found liquid water? I don't think they found liquid water. No. Oh. No. Yeah, you're right. I guess it is the liquid water. You're right. I guess it is the frozen water. You're right. That'd be a huge story.

I don't even trust the news stories about space anymore because I've been hoodwinked so many times with first organism found on Mars. Oh, I mean this is science today or we fucking love science or whatever page it is and you click on it and it's like small example we found a half of a protozoa arm and we think

you know who's to say did it fall off of kevin's shoe when he stepped onto mars who knows did it live there we don't know not even that like sometimes they have these big hype stories like you know water found on mars and then what they actually found maybe they have since found ice but they at this the story i remember is they found hints that they might found water might find water and the same thing with the life on mars like oh we found you know bacteria on mars and then they see some evidence like we didn't actually see bacteria we just saw something that also tends to be near bacteria they definitely found the ice though

yeah they found ice but they should have just I don't know it's just there's no reason to hype it up too much because expectations are kind of low I think because we haven't gotten like a huge mind blowing space discovery at least in the public sphere in a long time because i mean i i don't know of any so just say like huge

you know 30 tons of 30 million tons of ice found under surface of mars like that's already catchy you know unless it was you know six ounces of ice found deep in the ground maybe not ice maybe like something else like that i don't know now i'm just not making any sense but i don't oversell it they found enough ice to fill lake michigan twice but it's under the surface which for me like i guess i'm still skeptical but they seem pretty confident so what do i know yeah i mean that's pretty cool. Just I think we're in a in a phase of like space travel where for things to get Much better. It's very much more expensive because because you know right You know the reason we keep sending those robots and rovers is because of how expensive it would be to send a human being Not because we can't we could totally send somebody to Mars you just fucking put them in a ship and point it

Just go like we could And his body would arrive. He would be fine because we got that, what's the guy up there playing the guitar, that Canadian astronaut? He's always up there. He's been up there forever. He's fine. That guy needs to put up his GoPro and do some fucking research because I don't see him

singing on YouTube and doing stupid little experiments. You just know he's having discussions with his project manager after that when he's like, oh, we're singing in space with Bob Dylan. And then he's like, Ted, honestly, we just need those soil samples so bad. You just have them in the station. Just put it in the thing and send it back. Oh, no, not to my next live stream.

I'm getting a lot of followers. I swear to God, Ted, if I could fire you, I would. This is really not many applicants up here. It's too expensive to fire me. We could definitely send the guy to Mars right now, alive, and get him back right now.

There's no reason we couldn't. You just got to build the ship, put him in it, and point it. I'm always reading and seeing on these science shows about how uh i guess there's um uh because of our our van allen radiation belt that protects us from those solar winds that occasionally come through and just sort of scorch uh certain parts of space with just intense radiation and we wouldn't be able to shield ourselves from that so you are just kind of sailing you know through an ocean where you could just get cut down by a big monster at any time i guess of radiation just die but other than that it seems like we could just send somebody there and do it right it's just a matter of months not like a vacation spot like it would be rough

settling for those first million that elon musk seemed okay he seemed like like that's what i'm talking about here i don't i didn't see anything in that matt damon movie that we couldn't come up with if we really needed it in a pinch if there was nothing in that matt damon movie that if it meant killing the soviets we couldn't figure out in the next five fucking years i wonder if we can even beat the Soviets Oh of course we can beat the Soviets That's what I thought I was talking to army people And they thought that we couldn't

They said that we had a glass hammer That you know Yeah our tanks are great and our planes are great And our helicopters are great but they're so easy to break That you know The Chinese have already been able to take out satellites I imagine the Russians are even better. They could just knock out some GPS, and then our

glass hammer is fucked. That they could... But they're in the same situation. They're in the same boat. It's almost like, okay, if you destroy all of our satellites and whatnot, we can destroy all of your satellites and whatnot, and then it comes down to army versus army, and they know

they'd lose. I don't know. I was just hanging out with people last weekend who felt otherwise, who were like, yeah, it's a glass hammer. It seems great while everything works, and we're awesome at taking out third world countries. But to someone who can actually fight back, we would bust up. This guy said he saw a demonstration.

So I went to that Kennebec airport, the one I got got permission and everything hopefully i didn't screw myself by saying the name but went to this airport and uh um they were saying they saw a russian fighter jet land with no landing gear it slid on its belly and then they lifted it they put the landing gear down and it took off he's like how long do you think an american jet would be out of service you know how many like and luckily our landing gear works though well and if it didn't four more jets would quickly swoop in to take its place so against the russians i kind of buy that you know like yeah we could outproduce them against the chinese if their jets are also like russian then what kind of war are we in when it's jet versus jet though like that's the that's the

thing what war do we fight with the chinese it's going to be an economic war that's the war we fight with the chinese it's an economic cold war it's not going to be jet versus jet or battleship versus battleship there's mutually assured destruction at the end of any of those conflicts like like let's say our jets were better than their theirs and they could they could get right back up and fly again if they you know if they had an issue well what's going to happen when we were crushing the chinese and we're knocking on their doorstep aren't they going to nuke us into oblivion aren't they going to nuke the whole southeast uh all of this all of southeast asia aren't they going to ruin all of that land that they were trying to take by conquest so no one can have it?

Yeah, I mean, there's really no way to win. You're right. Even if you say, oh, we have way more nukes, and our nukes are better nukes. We have the best nukes. They're tremendous. Like, you know, even a shitty nuke is... Lots of respectable

people are saying this, Woody. Smart people are saying it. Even so, that's, our nukes are the best nukes. Like, that's why it's such a big deal if North Korea gets a couple of shit-tier nukes, because it's still a nuclear weapon, and you can really cause a lot of devastation. And China, even if they're like a whole Civ V stage behind us in nuclear research, they're going to be able to get off enough before we destroy them that our country's dead to. I was reading this thing about the Korean conflict and the idea of using nuclear weapons

in that war and how it went back and forth. The generals wanted them. There were some, I think maybe 12 nuclear weapons sent over there to be possibly used. And I think they might have used those bombs in training exercises in planes flying around, which is terrifying. But they did that shit all the time back during the Cold War. You know, planes flying around with nukes

in them. We lost one off the coast of Georgia. Still haven't found it. But in any case, that's a shitty, shitty movie. I liked it. Oh, it's so goddamn good. I liked it. It was a while ago. I might not anymore, but I liked it. Oh, it's so goddamned. I liked it.

It was a while ago. I might not anymore, but I liked it. I remember enjoying it. That's a movie you spit after you watch it. Get that out of my mouth. But what were we talking about? I don't know. Lack of respect for Travolta, I think, is the new topic I want.

He's terrible. Something about the nukes. Nukes, Korean conflict. Yeah, yeah. And kind of what I was reading in there, what the experts were saying at the time was that the nuclear weapon is better if we leave it kind of with some mythos around it. You know, everybody, oh, it's a nuclear weapon.

You know, it's a bigger deal to talk about than to use is what they were saying. They're like, if you just drop one nuclear bomb out there, it's not doomsday. We're just going to blow up a big fucking area of the jungle out there in korea like it's not gonna win the war in any case like the scary thing about nukes is like that the that the you know the united states has 10 000 of them and the soviets had 10 000 of them and when everybody if you drop 20 000 nukes you'd ruin the whole planet right but like one nuclear bomb going off off somewhere is just not a big fucking deal at all.

Look at all those tests we did back in the day in Bikini Atoll and what the Russians were doing up in Siberia. Now you have talking sponges. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's human-inspired evolution. That's a good thing. You made your starfish retarded, I think.

Are starfish even that important, though? Is retarded i think are starfish even that important though like like what is is retarded or downgrade if starfish were edible like that would be such a gourmet food that would be right there with the oysters and and the shrimp and everything they would imagine a star shaped food that actually tastes good the fact that we don't eat them clearly says they must taste like absolute dog shit they're star shit or they're like only eaten in places where they do that like discovery channel oh this is a delicacy no it's not it's just you've never had good food and so this is like like you think this this bowl of ant heads is just the bees knees because you're literally starving to death to you it's this bowl of ant heads,

or you go to bed hungry and possibly don't wake up. And so, of course, that's delicacy. I've seen a delicacy where it's an egg, except that they let the chicken nearly hatch. Duck. Okay, it could be duck. That makes it worse. It is a duck.

All right. And the bones are apparently almost leathery. You know, not bony, but like leathery. And you can just eat the whole thing. But it's, you know, what a newborn bird looks like. It looks terrible. And it looks foul. Clever.

Anyway, they call that a delicacy. And it never really clicked with me, Taylor's theory of like, yeah, this isacy in, like, New Guinea where they just maybe don't have the same food. Guess what? If there's, like, some sort of shipping error and two tons of sour cream and onion Pringles show up in some New Guinea tribe, that's the new delicacy. That's the new delicacy. Oh, my God. Can you believe we were eating fish spines in soup for decades? Because that's what we had after the meat?

We got whole- this is what Westerners are eating as snacks! Like, this isn't even a delicacy for them. Imagine the delicacy. Like, if we dropped a huge load, a payday of paydays, they'd have an aneurysm. They'd all probably get diabetes, actually, but they'd... It would be that new delicacy. We'd make them American. So there you go. Well, we're way over time. All right.

Thanks for stopping by, everyone. It's on the show. PKN episode 112. Oh, vice presidential debates are tonight, right? I don't care. Probably already started. Well, that's who will actually be president if Trump wins. So that's the thing.

And that'll who'll be President when Hillary strokes out. Yes! We should watch this. Alright, BKN 112.