Painkiller Already - PKN #120

Episode Date: December 9, 2016

It's PKN time baby!

We are PKN episode 120. How is everybody? Good. Doing great. Look what I got today. I know we were going to talk about the flag burning thing, but I finally got this in the mail today. Yay! Oh dude, I got something in the mail that's kind of cool too. Wait, is that the one that you ordered like months and months and months ago? Or the one that you were always trying to log on and then it was like, oh, out of stock again, sucks to suck. Like, is that the one? Yeah, now there was a Cyber Monday deal and I got it for cheaper than it normally is.

And I got it when I wanted it. Why is that one so hard to get? Can I interrupt? Because I just didn't produce enough. Supply and demand. For those of you that are audio only, Kyle held up a GTX 1080, which is one of the top graphics cards there is right now. Yeah, I got the Asus Strix overclocked edition.

So yeah, I should be able to max out my VR gaming and have some real fun. Is it going to be more fun, or is it going to be maybe like panic-inducing? It'll be better, because I can't max out all of the settings in, I think it's raw data. In raw data, last time I got on, it's got

What does that mean? There's a game called raw data, and I can't Oh, never mind. I thought that was a technical thing you were saying. Well, the Raw Data wasn't quite up to par. You know, the Gross Data was, not the Raw Data. Or the Net Data. Raw Data is a shooter slash sword game where you're defending against these really horrifying robots

that come in waves from 360 degrees around you, and you've got to traverse the room and duck and dodge and dip and shoot and reload and dip and shoot and reload tactically and it's really challenging. I'm not great at it but I really enjoy it. Woody got an air hog. It's a model airplane.

Cool. That is cool. It's just a model though? It is just a model. Is it the kind that you assembled yourself did you it took me about an hour it's a remote controlled airplane is what it is

oh ok so that's what it works so it flies I haven't flown it yet but it will fly I got the battery and the controller the transmitter from a different store so I'm waiting on the, I got the battery and the controller, the transmitter from a different store. So I'm waiting on that stuff to arrive.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was maybe like a model airplane and the kind that you like put together and then like suspend from strings from a ceiling in a kid's room or something. Right, right. No, this is, this should be a flying airplane and I'm pretty. Is it a camera? So they call that FPV, like first person view. Did everyone else hear a baby cry? Yeah, I was trying to find a video of an air hog, which is exactly the cheap shit version of what Woody bought

because I wanted to show. Because I don't know if you had this, Kyle, as a kid, but they had stuff called air hogs and you like pumped them up with air and launched them into the sky like planes and they had shitty little cheap flimsy foam wings my parents would get me the model rocket sets the legit ones that had the electric starters and we did like i certainly never had a really good one or anything but you know i had a series of cheap ones and medium ones

that we did i don't know yeah so I don't know. I wanted one. I've been looking at different ones for a while. They make a paramotor one. It was really expensive. It was like over $1,000. And I don't know. It's a starter plane, so I'm just goofing around with it. That's really cool. Yeah, I don't know if it's cool for video content or anything.

No, I think it's cool to do. I think it's going to be fun to fly that and to do it. Regardless of if someone else is going to enjoy watching you do it, you're going to really enjoy it. That sounds fun to me. Although, it's a real high-risk sort of hobby, right? Because, man, I've seen plenty of videos, and people like to laugh at them,

of those guys crashing $10,000, $15,000 RC remote control jets. Jets. These things fly, I don't know, 400 miles an hour or something. But they seem to be made of, I guess, aircraft aluminum in some places, but paper mouchet where it should count. Yeah, also wood. You probably saw the recent one where he just sort of turned up while going fast and he self-destructed in the air.

I think he was doing some sort of tricky maneuver. He was like Hot Dog and showing off, doing some sort of turned up while going fast and it's self-destructed in the air i think he was doing some sort of like like tricky maneuver like he was he was like hot dog and showing off doing some sort of thing where he like like fly straight up with a jet and like wallows in his wake or something and he just came apart it's a different one than i saw the one i saw he was just tearing along at mach one and someone apparently who knows better was like yeah i could see his aileron started to move and he was he was turning to gain altitude at too much speed. But yeah, he was just ripping it along, started to turn up and just blew apart. The one I saw where it was like – I'm thinking of the same thing. I don't know how expensive they are, tens of thousands of dollars maybe that are super nice and they go real quick.

And you see them in the sky when they're making the videos and you're like, oh, that's probably about the size of what you just held up, Woody. And then you see it come in and land and your perception is readjusted and you're like, oh, no. That's like, you could sit a person on both of those wings, not and still fly it, but that's how big that is. It's scary how big those are.

The guy was, I guess, hot-dogging is the term for it where he came in to the side with the wings out, doing the sideways Blue Angel thing, where it gets millimeters close to the ground, and then you've seen the Blue Angels where they come in, and they're so close, and then right back up. This guy did it in his little fake airplane and got a little bit ballsier

than the guy who is actually sitting in there controlling it and is like, I'm not going to actually run my wing on the ground. I'm going to be okay. This guy got ballsy, and it hit the ground and it didn't like collapse and explode or anything it basically just looked like a slice of cheese run across a grater just immediately just one wing just just the whole thing just ground into a powder as this guy watches realizing oh fourteen thousand dollars is now strewn about other people's picnic cloths and whatever else they were doing. Because typically those things are all homemade.

So what looks like a $14,000 plane is actually like, you know, $800 in balsa wood. That's almost worse. No, I'm talking about different planes. Let me see if I can find one of these videos. Because when they crash, it's a moment where everybody feels bad. Because it's like the guy

just destroyed a real plane. I've just been watching like at all hours and hours and hours of these like these rc channels there's a lot of youtube channels devoted to real controlled airplanes and uh yeah they're just they're like the home depot foam and stuff like you know the foam that big pink sheets of foam like four by eight sheets and the whole thing is like i don't know 25 that's enough for a giant plane or or they'll be like yeah this thing was like you know 12 sheets of foam yeah and 12 times that what is that 300 like it doesn't add up very fast yeah but like if you're if you're rich enough that you can splurge 14 grand or whatever the number i pulled out of my ass on one of those planes and you crash it like you're sad because you wasted the money but you're

not going home like how am i going to explain this to the wife and kids like no college for you little anthony like if you build it though if you construct it and then you crash it that would be it's like watching your lego fortress get destroyed by your younger brother but on such a bigger level because it's all your fault and you watch all your work just powder i'm so new to this i could be wrong my observation has been though that they all expect them to get destroyed like no one thinks they built a lifetime model airplane they i'm wondering if we're all talking about the same although you didn't mention like the ones i'm talking about and I guess we all are, but they're like 8 foot wingspans.

You know, 10 foot wingspans and stuff. I like the jets. I find those really cool. The ones that look like fighters and the ones that fly really aggressively. I saw one that was made to look like a 747 or something like that. Maybe a Virgin. And while that was really

impressive to look at like i mean it's kind of boring to watch fly i like the big expensive looking ones too to look at i'm told to fly slow ones are a lot of fun i'm sure it's neat to have variety but like you know like if you're in a park wanting to fly something having one that can kind of go near you and do all sorts of acrobatics is a good time whereas one that just rips around at 250 miles an hour is could you weaponize one let if you if you took yeah like like if you took one of those big ones and how much of a payload if you will could you put in the nose cone of that uh that that jet i've only seen really silly payloads like i i saw one guy drop probably five small stuffed animals. They were sponsored by Host Gator.

Those weigh like nothing. I've seen people stack model airplanes, so they take another one up that doesn't have a motor and let it glide around. But that also probably weighs like a pound. Man, just imagine if we put high explosives on the nose cone of one of those things and had you fly it into a wall. Yeah. That's probably bad for some reason.

I don't know what law that is, but it seems like there'd be one. Look, we would ask a lawyer, hey, how do we... Because think about it this way. There are companies out there who make missiles for the government, right? And so they have to apply for a license so that they can make some fucking missiles. And that license would cover R&D and that sort of a thing. So let's find out what license is required. And if it's $600 and an interview with a government agent,

man, it'd be cool to put some C4 in the front of that plane. There's no fucking way. Like, when they give those, like, certifications out, man, it'd be cool to put some C4 in the front of that plane and crash it into a wall. Like, when they give those certifications out, I bet it's like, and so Halliburton, why should we give you this certification? Well, we're worth a hundred billion dollars as a company, and we have Boeing as a great friend of

ours, another ally. You know, we can work together and we know how to do it. They're not going to go, hey, Kyle, why should we give you this? Well, I've got about $60 of foam and a lot of C4. Hear me out. Hear me out. It's got a propeller on it. We can bring it back. That's not just a World War II thing. Propellers are back.

They're in vogue. So anyway, I'm sort of psyched about that. Dude, I was I wasn't watching the Blues. They don't really have current TV. But they've won, I think, five out of their last six games. Yeah, five out of their last six, I believe. That's quite the hot streak.

They're doing pretty well. I doubt there's another team in the league doing better right now. The Kings have won their last five, which is good, but the Blues are one of the hottest teams right now, which is trending up, and all of it's because they started fucking scoring. Oh, you know i was gonna suggest that this is they had their an eight game streak of scoring at least three goals a game which compared to their first what yeah not 12 games of the season it was just not

they were not good they went through a rough patch where yeah they weren't scoring and the other teams and they were giving up like five or six goals like that was two or three games. So how much more interesting are the playoffs than the regular season for you? Because for me the like regular season baseball stuff is such a fucking drag that you've got to

really look deep for a pitching matchup or something like that to find some interest to even like sit down and watch a game. It's weird. Baseball has both too many games. That's one of the issues I have with baseball. There's so many games that no game matters very much. And two, and tell me if I'm wrong on this,

it seems like not enough teams make the playoffs. How many teams make the playoffs in baseball? Is it eight? Same as hockey. Is that right? Yes, same as hockey and plus a, what do you call it, wild card from each division. Maybe I'm wrong. Which you guys get too. I thought it was like.

I don't know enough about baseball playoffs. I think maybe it is. I don't know how many games is this first series. So, you know, the. 16. They're all games of seven in the NHL. Oh, okay. So that is a difference.

Our first round in base hour, like I'm fucking the commissioner of fucking baseball over here because I just happen to be the one who prefers to watch eight baseball games a year. I'm the resident baseball MLB expert. Really, what are your qualifications? I watched three games last year. The Braves really suck. Well, the other guy only watches hockey and the other guy only watches fighting, and so I am the baseball expert.

No, but as far as how exciting it is, and I know Woody being the more into hockey will keep me tempered to reality because, of course, I'm always going to talk hockey up. I can, like you were talking about with baseball, I can watch a regular season game. Like tonight, I'll probably

have on or watch part of the bruins flyers game just because i want to watch the players that i like on those teams like i like david back as he was our captain i've been him i like the flyers uh jeru and simmons i'm gonna watch how do you connect with a player that see see here's one of the things that only here's 10 baseball teams that make the playoffs i knew i was right on this there are only 10 teams that make it five per side and there's a yeah no that's right i thought that i thought the hockey was the same no and there's 16 teams that make it oh well that's far too many 16 for winner i hear you just in baseball it feels like two-thirds of the team is out by mid-season like two-thirds of the league like ah you midseason, like two-thirds of the league.

You talk about how regular season doesn't matter. That's what I was tying it into. One, there's – how many games are there? A hundred and – A hundred and eighty-something. A hundred and eighty-two. A hundred and eighty-two games. If that's right, that is so many games.

And that seems high. I think it's a hundred and sixty-something. Is it? Because NHL and NBA are both 82-game seasons, and I think it's right around twice. 162. 162. So almost twice NBA and NHL.

Yeah, so 162 games, and only 10 teams make the playoffs, 5%. So there'll be a lot of teams by midseason. You just know it couldn't matter. Although it has provided historically for some teams to mount incredible comebacks because at the All-Star break you have a round of trading. And so sometimes teams will pick up some big players and they'll make runs.

That's one thing that does happen. But you're right. Sometimes the Royals are just at the bottom of the league and they're gonna stay there and it's not gonna change but in hockey you can be at like you know two-thirds down and with i don't know 15 games left in the season it's like it could happen you know like claw your way back yeah it's happened to the bruins the past two years both years and like you know 12 games less than the season it's like all right Bruins are gonna make it you know as the last wild card spot because you know Philly or whoever else is way too far behind and then the last 15 games the last two years the Bruins go on horrible

record-breaking slides and then it both times came down to the last game of the season last year I think it was against Philly it might have have been, where it was, you know, all right, Bruins, again, if you lose this, you miss the playoffs again. Like, it's happened. If you lose this, we miss the playoffs. And they've lost both of them, both of those games. So poor Boston, not really poor Boston. They won a cup in 2011.

Fuck you. But, yeah, I like hockey all season, but NHL playoffs are so exciting because, like what he was saying, the critique of too many teams make it is understandable. I do kind of get that. But I also prefer more playoffs. Like if you get less teams making the playoffs, you don't get as many seven-game series.

You don't get as much playoff hockey. And the difference in playoff hockey to regular hockey is crazy. Like every single year, it comes out like oh yeah you know i was going to use sydney crosby as an example but i realized that wasn't a good one for you um oh yeah claude drew he played the whole last 10 games of the the playoffs with a shattered left hand oh yeah no way sydney would do that yeah what oh yeah sydney wouldn't do that uh well drew wouldn't either because he's too much of a playmaker. We'll pick Shane Gostisbert. He's a defenseman for him.

He played it with a fractured couple of fingers. I like that. I like how intense it is. How much it clearly matters. Wasn't Giroux injured like the last 15 games of last year when he got surgery in the offseason? It was his shoulder. Am I making this up? He might have been. I think that's true.

It was either Giroux or Voracek. People must be done with hockey talk. Dear God. Either Giroux or Voracek. I'm not sure which, but it matters greatly. I don't know why you're imposing British accents and making fun of

us talking about hockey. You know how much they love their sport across the pond. They're all about kicking balls and not brushing their teeth. I added FS1 to my whatever package. What is it? The stream TV thing. And I've been watching a lot more UFC. Do they have fights every – does Fox have fights every Friday night?

No, they have fight nights. And I think they did do two weeks in a row um but it's not every i was excited i was like holy shit this is great like like every are you telling me every friday night i get like an entire card of fights and it starts at like 7 p.m and it's almost 1 a.m by the time you get to the end of that though like i would guess like i'm making i'm pulling numbers out of my hat here but something like 35 to 40 weekends a year they'll have yeah that's cool and and they usually correspond with a ufc pay-per-view night so i start my i start watching it uh the other night the last ufc uh pay-per-view i bought the

pay-per-view but i watched the prelims and the uh the fox bites so i started watching it like six in the afternoon and didn't finish until one in the morning. Like we're falling asleep by the time Connor wins. If you couple that with junk food, you can feel really awful by 1 a.m. Yeah, yeah. It didn't look like it was that much of a commitment when I started. It was like, oh, yeah, it's, you know, 14 fights or whatever it was. I was like, okay, those will fly by. No, it took all fucking day.

But it was – I've gotten like two weeks in a row of like a ton of UFC in. And I started watching YouTube videos, just like compilations over and over of like specific categories. And it was really interesting to see the ones that are like how the UFC's business model has worked. I didn't realize that they had eaten up like every single competitor now. I don't understand what you... Oh, the UFC's business model has worked. I didn't realize that they had eaten up every single competitor now. I don't understand what you... They bought all the other fighting. They bought all the other fighting organizations. Like Bellator?

Isn't Bellator the big one? Bellator is the current second big one. It used to be Pride was, and UFC bought it. After that, I think Bellator and Strikeforce competed for second place, and UFC bought Strikeforce. after that, I think Bellator and Strikeforce competed for second place, and UFC bought Strikeforce. But Bellator still stands alone, and they're actually owned by Viacom,

so they're pretty well-backed if they need to be. Yeah. And lately, a couple big fighters, like Rory McDonald comes to mind, Ben Henderson comes to mind, have gone to Bellator. Chael Sonnen went there. Oh, well. Yeah, right? Why is that not a big deal?

I thought he's an agent I recommend. Or I recognize. I feel like Chael is only going to get a fight because of his promotion abilities. Why? Is he not good anymore? I don't think that he's good enough to be competing at any kind of a you know real level like like he's he's an he's an interesting fight because he he's a he's a

great promoter he goes out there and really runs his mouth am i wrong i thought that he was like a big ufc guy chael sonnen there's the reason he got a fight against john jones like three years ago was because he was so fucking good at promoting that fight like nobody like well you saw what happened when he fought john jones right like john just beat the fuck out of him it wasn't even a contest he only got that fight because he was he promoted it so well jayle's an interesting character like so one kyle's right in that he promotes fights amazingly well right like it may be better than conor mcgregor but that's just me talking he was definitely the king of it before Conor. Exactly, yeah.

So he makes the fight interesting. Having said that, shucks. Like, he's lost a couple fights, but that doesn't fully express how good he, how well he was doing. Like, he had gone, fuck, like 10, 12 fights in the UFC without ever losing a round without ever losing a round so we just knocked everybody out in the first or no no because sometimes you'd lose the fight like a good example is he fought anderson silva right the greatest fighter of all time some people say i knock him because he did steroids but um so to chail so i guess fair fight anyway greatest fighter of all time he beat the fuck out of Anderson Silva for four rounds. Lopsided.

Took him down and just punched him in the head for four and a half rounds. And then Anderson Silva got him in a triangle choke and won the fight. Oh, I saw that gif. I mean, he was. But that was. All right, so he fought Jon Jones in 2013, three years ago now. Since then, he's fought twice. He won once against – I don't know who Mauricio Rua is.

Yeah, Shogun is a legend ex-champion. But then he lost to Rashad Evans, so he's only fought twice since. Yeah, so he started fighting at 205 a little bit, and just it's not for him. He's not big enough to fight at 205 So he hasn't fought in three years. Oh, well, he's been serving his steroid suspension. So he just got suspended Yeah, he he got he got busted for steroids and it's great You know someone was like jail, you know, you fucking steroid user you're bad You're a cheat whatever you got caught for four things in

your system at one time. And he tweets back, six things, still the record. And it is. He literally has the record for getting caught with the most things in his system at one time. I saw a clip of Rogan talking about, I think, Nate Diaz the other day. And he said that Nate had won the fight, I think, but he had tested positive for so much

marijuana that they said he must have been high when he was fighting. That'd be Nick Diaz, probably. Yeah, that was Nick after he fought Silva. Even if marijuana's illegal, they shouldn't be punishing athletes for using it.

It shouldn't be like, oh, sorry, you lost your title, you tested positive for weed. It's not like that helped him in any way. It's not like steroids. Which sport does it? It's not like he smoked weed. Is it the NHL? The NHL lets you smoke pot. The NHL is the one who doesn't give a fuck.

It's like a don't ask, don't tell policy in the NHL. The UK is in between. The UFC lets you smoke pot out of competition, but they also test you on competition night. So you can't smoke pot in competition, but you can smoke it through all of training camp and what have you. Yeah, and that just makes sense. For the same reason you can't get drunk before you go out to fight either.

The much bigger drug in the NHL is cocaine. The much bigger drug in the NHL is cocaine. In the UFC, they argue that it's somehow better for your brain to be high. Like you may be more knockout prone. That's retarded. This is Rogan talking, and I'm completely outside of my expertise here. Rogan said that? So is he. Yeah.

So is he. I don't know. Rogan's done a lot of acid. I don't know. Rogan does – oh, I was talking about pot. I'm saying maybe the acid made him think that the pot would help him be a better fighter. For a smart guy, he's got a lot of wacky theories. He's like, I don't know, man.

When I fight high, they just beat me and beat me, and I never go unconscious. Yeah, that makes sense. He always seems – like the way he talks about drugs, like I like Joe Rogan with a lot of this stuff but it's funny with everything to do with drugs he is like that dude who is in his late 20s early 30s who've just tried drugs or drinking for the first time and now will not shut the fuck up about how much it opens your micro brewing in his garage now and it's you know i micro brew my own pot elixir or whatever the fuck he's doing. And the thing is, I put myself in an isolation tank because, you know, little known thing, the human body was meant to be left in severe isolation. You know, our senses aren't even that useful.

You know, fun tip, dulling them and getting rid of stimulation. That's what you need. I don't know about the isolation tank shit, but when he says stuff like, oh, you just need to take a bunch of shrooms and just lay in an isolation tank, and you'll figure shit out. It's like, yeah, or you'll drown. That'll be you. And you'll be the guy who thought he was going to uncover the world,

but there's going to be covered in your own fucking shit and piss in an isolation tank. It doesn't make sense. Did you see that Jon Jones is going to be on a show December 1st? I did, yeah. Yes, I did see. That's going to be on a show December 1st? I did, yeah. Yes, I did see. That's going to be a good show. I can't wait for that.

Because, you know, Joe is going to ask him some pretty pointed questions. And he's got a lot to explain, right? I've never watched an interview with a UFC fighter where I thought, man, that is an interesting perspective. Like, wow, what a comment on something not beating someone to death. Like, no no it's that's interesting i'm trying to prove you wrong i don't got much i've listened to it same thing if you don't like it but you like it because you like ufc when i watch hockey

interviews i only like it because it's hockey and they'll talk about the sport at no point am i like man vladimir tarasenko what a hoot. Hilarious guy. That classic Russian humor. Like, no, it's not. I don't know. I can't because it seems like UFC guys get on podcasts more than any other kind of athlete because they're kind of like they are their own brand. It's not the job of some dude who's a defensive back

on the Jacksonville Jaguars to promote Jacksonville, but it's Rashad Evans' job to promote Rashad Evans. It's just anytime I see a podcast i like come up with a ufc fighter i get rid of it the ufc in particular like so rogan made a podcast and that went really well and then he suggested that brennan schwab and brian callahan made a podcast he put them together and well i don't have any numbers those two appear to have gotten rich on their podcast and now it's good too because last year, remember, you had – Go ahead.

Sorry. The thing is the whole Rogan universe has started making their own podcast. Joey Diaz made a podcast. Luke whatever made it. Like everyone who exists in Joe Rogan's circle. I saw Joe Rogan interviewing – who's the guy that made Dilbert? Scott Adams. Scott Adams, yeah.

So he had him on his podcast and he's like, man, you're doing really well. You need to be making a podcast. Joe is like planting these podcast seeds everywhere, and it's part of the reason that there's so much UFC podcasting going on. You were saying, Kyle? I was saying about when Joe was having to like tell to, I think it's, is it Brendan Schwab? Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Having to be like, I think, is it Brendan Schwab?

Having to be like, look, just so you know, you don't have what it takes to compete at that top level we're talking about. You don't have the tools. You don't have the talent. And you're never going to have it. And if you keep going the way you're going, what you're going to have is brain damage. And Brendan's there like,

well, I don't like hearing that. I think you'd be surprised. Yeah. That launched Brandon's podcast. That got so much attention. And it was amazingly done. Man, telling a fighter that he should probably retire, that this isn't going to go anywhere for him, it was such a powerful moment. And you could see brendan practically

wanted to cry i'm you know inferring here but it seemed like he wanted to cry yeah and uh it was because he saw himself making a title run and then he had a loss or two and uh then he's like well maybe a 205 i could make a title run and joe's just like he kept describing his weaknesses almost as things you can't deal with you know like no man you just don't move like they move like you're just too slow there's a certain stiffness to you there's a certain like athleticism that those guys have that you don't and you're like what do i fucking like stand on yoga balls or something like that? I don't know how I can ever address. I don't know how to put it. It's just that you are,

you are objectively worse than them. They are. Look at them. That person's better than you will ever hope to be. Yeah. I guess is kind of what he did. I want to watch this clip now. It was,

wait, did the guy get upset or was he kind of like, okay, I see where you're coming from. He didn't get mad. He got, um, defeated, deflated, crushed a little bit. And he's not crying or anything, but he'd be like, how do you think you'd do wrestling against Kane? And he's like, I think you'd be surprised.

And Rogan's like, no, I think you'd be surprised, which became a meme on Reddit for like – still is. I think you'd be surprised. which became a meme on reddit for like still is and uh but it was it was a really powerful moment uh you'd have to find out it looks like kyle might be searching for one you'd need an edited one because it probably would took place over like 20 minutes and yeah i'm sure it's too long if it's joe rogan's podcast it's way too long i can find it on what's his name brendan schwab yes yeah i wanted to talk about yeah don't go by it's probably too long for this but i wanted to talk about um trump's flag burning thing and i think i think before i think to almost to even discuss whether we like

flag burning or not is silly because what we should really be looking at is why did Trump tweet about flag burning the only thing I can think of is dude I've noticed burning flags like I haven't seen any flags getting burnt it certainly wasn't the thing of the day what's going on is he's picking people he's picking Secretary of State he's mealing over people like Mitt Romney who is who the alt-right hates. You've got all kinds of things going on. It came out that he's not going to security briefings. Of course, he lost his settlement. And now we're talking about burning flags. I think we're really getting distracted by just quitting right now. So let me ask you this. I feel like there's two ways to look at this you can either say trump is impulsive maybe he saw

some black lives matter or anti-trump protests around the nation popping up with their burning flags and uh and so that's disgusting let's stop this that's one thing where it was kind of a knee jerk thin-skinned reaction which is a possible trump thing the other one is he's playing 4d underwater basket chess or whatever the fuck they'd like to say on the donald and they're like ah all he needs to do is you know throw out a decoy out there and now suddenly no one's talking about romney as secretary dude i think that you're right on with the second thing but i don't think that it's this 4d like so many people like they put the the motive on of,

oh, he's not doing it because he... What I think is he did it because he wants to drive attention away from what he's doing with his cabinet, and he wants people paying attention to this red herring, like Kyle said, squid ink, instead of paying attention to what he's doing with all of his selections. But tweeting out something dumb like that, trying to get attention or drive attention

away is not the same thing as playing 4D. There is some evidence that is, here is the evidence for 4D chess. Okay, here's the evidence for that. Very quickly, of course, lots of people have a knee-jerk reaction. Oh my god, you can, you know, burning the flags, protecting them with the First Amendment,

it's unconscionable that anyone would even suggest this it's kind of it's unconscionable that anybody anyone would even suggest this what kind of inhuman monster who has no regard for the constitution in the the republic there on which it's founded would we say this and you're like well hillary clinton did in two thousand five and it was one vote away from getting passed through through both houses of congress it made it

through uh... the house of representatives it was one vote away from getting passed in the Senate. Three Republicans voted against it, Mitch McConnell and two others. That's why it didn't get passed. It's not like... I don't think he tried to draw attention to that because I feel like Hillary is a slain foe.

If anything, I really do think that he doesn't like the attention that a lot of his picks are getting, even from people that were all gung-ho Trump. And so he did this red herring bullshit to try and throw, because he, like, to pretend that he doesn't like it. Because I think that might be 4D chess, too. Real quick, there is a middle ground between impulsive and 4D chess. Now, Trump doesn't have to be a genius to see throughout the entire election

that he has the power because of how much attention the media gives him, that he can send a tweet out there and the entire uh narrative the entire 24-hour news cycle changes what they're talking about and so he doesn't have to be a genius to know that sending this will put people on his case for the wrong thing if if trump has a brilliance it's controlling the news cycle like that's the thing that he does that other people can't do. And so that's a possibility. I don't know. There's also a lot of evidence and kind of like history that proves he does just impulsively tweet. He did it to his own demise oftentimes in the election cycle.

He would say things. When he told people to go check out that woman's sex tape that hurt him right that that wasn't 40 chess that worked out in his favor he won but i don't think the two are mutually exclusive i think both are true you know he doesn't know what to fire off sometimes but sometimes he's playing a much bigger game i think since i think he sent kellyanne conway out to like poo-poo his mitt romney talks i think he sent Kellyanne Conway out to like poo-poo his Mitt Romney talks. I think he sent her out there to say that. I don't think she goes rogue and goes and does that when she's on the cusp of getting the White House press secretary position. There's no way she would do that. I think Trump was like, hey, this sounds like the same kind of game as when he released that tape of him being

his own like publicist or whatever between him and that woman it's that kind of like that and that is 40 chess there's no other way to look at it right like he released that just to get the publicity just to make it a story i mean no he like what he said he does a great job manipulating the media in a lot of ways i just don't see because a lot of people do the revisionist thing where they'll go back and be like ah see this was all being built up from three weeks ago but you know right after the election that he he set the stage where no not really like he he's a guy who understands the media he brought up a point that he knew would be divisive because he wanted to throw attention away from what he was doing like the whole in the whole burning flags thing it isn't even a long conversation hey do you like burning flags

no most people really don't like it but you don't have the freedom of speech to protect popular opinions popular opinions don't need protection you need freedom of speech for shitty things that people will do even if even if you think it's genuinely shitty and that they're a bad person for it that's why you have it those people need protecting in that kind of speech so yep yep i i agree entirely i think um trump does say things that to his own demise i don't like the way he's complaining about the recounts. No, he – apparently Alex Jones is his source for saying there were 3 million bad votes or something. If people don't know who Alex Jones is, he's a very silly conspiracy theorist. He leans to the right.

He literally believes in things like aliens and reptile people and stuff like that. I was just catching a little bit of the show. He thinks fluoride will make you gay. He thinks what will make you gay? Fluoride and water. Okay, so he's his source for 3 million bad votes. They just quoted again. There was a study over the...

I'm sorry, Kyle. I know you're trying to get in. The study over the course of like 10 years, they found 31 bad votes. The study cost millions of dollars. It was a big thing. I could hunt it down. But bad voting isn't really

a problem because we use paper systems and you have to drive from place to place and you know like it'd be a lot of places we don't use paper systems and the reason they were able to recount michigan so fast is because they're all paper if i'm not mistaken yeah i saw this thing that said hillary did particularly poorly in places that had electronic voting and i'm like i'm just gonna forget i don't know. I can't say there's no voting manipulation on one hand and then be like, well, when Hillary does poorly in an e-voting county, now it's fake. I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah, I just, I mean, Hillary performed poorly in a lot of different categories and demographics, and that's just one more of them. There you go. And while I think Trump's claims of, claims of these 3 million illegal voters are absurd, his talk of his campaign style affecting the way the vote came out is absolutely on point, because if he had spent more time and money

in California and New York and places like that, as we've said before, his popular vote count would have been much higher. He was not pressing the flesh in Sacramento, Los Angeles, or New York on Fifth Avenue. He wasn't doing that. They both would have campaigned differently, and we don't know how that game would have gone. Yeah, it's all speculation. It's saying, oh, well, you know what? Hillary won.

If you change the end game and the rules and the structure by which the game is played, then Hillary actually won. It's like that's silly. That's not how we do it. Like, so what? Right. Deuces are wild when I play at home. Cleveland may have won the NBA championship last year, but if those two teams had played baseball, Golden State's actually better. Baseball, huh?

Golden State's actually better. If we had allowed Bernie Sanders to redistribute all of the points scored by the Cavaliers across the season and put into the playoffs, they would have absolutely won. No question. Yeah, yeah. It's just these rich white owners make them spend their points throughout the entire season trying to make the playoffs so they can profit off the backs of these poor African-American men. The white players do not know what it's like to be poor. He said that. He said white people don't know what it's like to be poor. That's true.

It might be true that he said it. It's not true what he said. Yeah. Man, I'm – Yeah. Every now and then I walk past Kitty's office and I just peek in and go Donald Trump is the president of the United States and then I just walk away laughing hysterically and she's like fuck off fuck off you fucker like dude I it's it's so absurd isn't it it's not a good way

to measure the president but I do measure them by what the economy did during their terms and uh of course they only have a mild influence on that and sometimes things that happen before them impact their years etc but um i i look at the run-up we have now and i'm like fuck like if i'm trump i want the stock market to cut in half before i take office not run up yeah what it does during his term like ah he's it's like dieting before you start counting how many pounds you lose you know that you know dude if i could have a cookie of course the media like everybody's happy to say like all these things have changed since he was elected everybody's hate crimes and awful shit you know he gets all the the blame for that but then you know stock market goes up it's like well it's just a natural fluctuation you know probably obama you know i saw the big hate crime map today and uh

and and they were having to like every step of the way they had to be like now keep in mind we can't verify these and so because many of them are based on anecdotal evidence which means like tweets but they've got this map of the whole fucking contiguous United States and Alaska is over there in the wrong place all tiny. And it's got like numbers all over them of the hate crimes that have been committed since Trump was elected. And then at the end, she just kind of throws in as an afterthought. Oh, well, several of those hate crimes were against Trump supporters. Just bear that in mind. And then they just cut away. And it's like, wait a minute. You said there were 900 hate crimes were against Trump supporters, just bear that in mind. And then they just cut away, and it's like, wait a minute, you said there were 900 hate crimes since Trump was elected,

but you didn't know which ones you could actually count as real. And then as an afterthought, you mentioned that quite a few of them were against the Trump supporters. It really almost starts to give credence to the guys on donald who are like if this is what fake news is when of course the the real fake news is of course the loony stuff that's like crazy propaganda but man what after seeing that segment on cbs i was like god they don't want to tell the truth do they no dude the whole the whole labeling of things as a hate crime instead of just having it be violent crime is just a way that you can turn stuff into propaganda. The hate crime, fake news, all of these things are just ways that you can control the narrative and have 100% certainty of what's going to be said.

Oh, don't, you know, it's just like when CNN was saying during the election, you know, you can't, you're not allowed to read these emails. We're going to be your source on all the Podesta emails. You know, we can't report on this, that, and the other thing. No, that's, it's illegal. Yeah, you can't on this, that, and the other thing. It's illegal. It's illegal. You can't do it. That's fake news. That's bullshit. Pepe the Frog is a traitor. He'll be

shot on sight. It's like a first to the flag fallacy. I think it's called first to the flag or first to the poll or something. First past the post? Is that what you're talking about? First past the post. Something like that. Orchan should have convinced CNN that Pepe was a person. Like he was an actual entity, and he was out there somewhere.

It's exactly what happened yesterday with the stabbing. Is, like, Tim Kaine, a bunch of people in the media tweeted out, you know, a shooting was trending. And people were tweeting, like, you know, a tragic shooting, tragic shooting, tragic shooting about it. And those are all big-name people. A lot of them didn't remove their tweets when it came out that it was a guy in a car

and a knife. But they were first to the post because they wanted to get the conversation not started on a very dangerous ideology that can cause a lot of people suffering in pain, but in its extremist form. They wanted to move it to guns because that's the comfortable realm they're in. And now that it came out that it's a vehicle and a knife and everything, it's going to fall by the wayside quickly. I had his tweet here. His tweet was deeply saddened by the senseless act of gun violence at ohio state this morning it's the ohio state uh praying for the uh injured and the entire buckeye community it was a guy with a car and a knife yeah i love it's like a liberal that's fake news it's a

liberal's worst nightmare. Oh, by the way, first past the post is a voting thing. I didn't know you're headed when I said that. But the guy was a Muslim. So, you know, you really want to defend him if you're on the left. He didn't use a gun. Fucking mind blown. I'm trying to think there was I saw some other story. They're like four things that just completely destroyed liberals. He wrote an article. It was a Facebook post. It was a Facebook post that he wrote and I guess it got picked up

by the Ohio State Tribune or whatever the hell it was. It was him saying just not long ago about I feel so threatened in a lot of areas. Just going around to pray and I just want to be able to pray my five times a day or whatever it is. I feel like people think I'm weird because of the way the media is portraying Muslims, and they feel threatened by me, and of course, throughout the entire thing, he never

actually mentions a time when someone, when someone, yeah, because nothing ever does happen. I went to Mizzou. I saw people, I saw Muslims praying. You know what people did? They kept fucking walking because nobody cares. Nobody gives a shit. Oh, keep walking. Like, as long as you're not doing it in the way of somebody where you're blocking up a doorway, nobody cares. Nobody gives a shit. Oh, keep walking. As long as you're not doing it in the way of somebody where you're blocking up a doorway, nobody cares. When you see the Orthodox Jews praying, nobody cares. It doesn't matter. So this whole fallacy

of people walking around going, oh, what are them Muslims doing at my university? No, it's not fucking happening. And it's just made up horseshit. And then that same guy who writes it ends up going on a stab up horseshit and then that same guy who writes it ends up going on a stabbing spree and then writing

another thing on Facebook saying that every you know like the thing you wrote on Facebook right before the attack was really fucked up about saying like you know I would kill a billion people to further the cause I didn't see the thing that Taylor's talking about I did see the thing from 18 months ago though and

did you get the impression he was saying in that that he was being ostracized? I think he just felt awkward doing something in public. I felt a lot like – I'm reading it, and I'm like, yeah, that's how I feel when I vlog in front of people. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you wouldn't write an article framing yourself as a huge victim and that people were were all were like almost out to get you that the that the the media was causing people to be fearful of you like i just i've just i don't know i'm not muslim so i don't have as good a perspective but i do i wonder though that i've never seen any i've seen muslims running in public and i've never seen anything happen

obviously that's anecdotal and a terrible form of proof for anything. But I just, it's just, this entire thing was a perfect storm of what uber, uber leftists, not sane liberals, uber leftists want to defend. And they just can't. And it blows their mind. Like, they don't. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. And I don't want to get stuck on it anymore. It's an upsetting story because, no, nobody died, right?

Nobody died, just him. Only the guy died. upsetting story because nobody died, right? Nobody died, just him. Yeah, so the security guard got there in under a minute and shot the guy dead. But I don't know how many people he hit

with the car and cut and how many were hit and cut and how many were just cut or what that was about. But I found it interesting that he's got a butcher's knife in a car, right? This doesn't seem premeditated unless he's a fucking retard. Like, if it took him more than

five minutes to come up with that plan, I'd be shocked. That sounds about as premeditated as that guy who was just gonna grab a cop's gun to kill Trump. That shit doesn't work. I'm just once again blown away that it took a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy causing mayhem.

Can you believe that? Again? Man, it's crazy. I know Woody's surprised. I am. That it took a guy with a gun to stop the maniac with the knife running around stabbing people and trying to run people over. Did that surprise you at all? Did you think that it might be a shuriken or maybe a blow dart?

I was talking to my wife about it. So back when the story first broke, like Taylor was saying, they were saying that it was a shooting, right? That was the initial, like they thought the guy was a shooting, trying to be a knife guy in the car. And I'm like, you know, like it colors my whole opinion on gun rules because they really just impact people who follow rules. We're already talking about dealing with guys

who don't follow rules, they shoot other people. And the fact that so many shootings, now this didn't turn out to be a shooting, happen on college campuses, movie theaters, things that require a ticket, shopping malls, places where you generally can't have guns, you see a lot of shootings. Now, I don't know that that's because they go there thinking that there'll be no concealed carry holders to, like, shoot them back.

I think it's because they go there searching for populations. And places where there's populations tend to be gun, you know, no gun zones. Like how pedophiles magically get drawn to fields where they get a lot of alone time with children. You know, most priests are good people, I'm sure. A lot of them, there are a lot of pedophiles among priests, and a lot of pedophiles among men who work with very

young kids, I'm sure. Like, they do that because they want to be in that position where they can get away with something, where they know there's not going to be a lot of pushback. Of course, people who are going to do shitty things are going to do it in the best possible scenario to do that shitty thing i've often wondered if the priest thing goes the opposite direction it's not so much that pedos are drawn to the priesthood it's that the priesthood creates pedos by denying adults healthy sexual

relationships now i think it's long been like a place for them to go to practice their wares and safety those guys absolutely like for hundreds of years you think most priests fuck i think most priests have sex yeah i know priests because st louis is a huge huge catholic area almost all my friends are catholic and they and i know. And priests are the ones, apparently, at every Catholic party. If you're a Baptist listening to this, close your ears so you don't find out how fun Catholicism is. Everybody just gets

hammered, and the priests usually get pretty drunk on that Catholic wine. But yeah, I don't think at all. Most of them are doing what they think is right. They think that Catholicism is correct and that they're doing the right thing. Ain't nothing wrong with it.

I'm sure that imams in the Muslim religion, they probably have pedophile scandals there where it's because they wanted to get close to parties. And they blame the kid for being all sexy. Blame the kid for being sexy. Sexy. I can't talk today. Yeah, so I – Bring the children. Bring them.

Dude, the thing I don't like about the Catholic Church is they take these guys, they make them leaders, they have them all for, like, marriage advice and counseling, and there's nobody less qualified. Yeah, nobody. No. That's true. A guy who's never seen a pussy before in his life, who's never made a woman orgasm, or had to deal with a woman during her period cohabitating with him, he's got no fucking clue! He doesn't know. The only good advice they can...

And even the way you confess in Catholic... Have you guys ever confessed? No. You're not Catholic, so you never... No, no, no. The way that it's done of like giving you homework to get rid of all your sins is just ridiculous did you do you'll explain something no i have lots of like i had friends explained to me what we were presbyterian

or protestant or whatever so i didn't go do confession but you you would they'd ask something and they say oh what'd you do and oh i on my math test, whatever my friend was telling me. And he'd say, all right, you need to go home and do 70 Hail Marys. And that's 70 Hail Marys is sitting there while you're praying, I guess. I'm sure that God cares that you're doing it in the right way. Like, you can't be saying your Hail Marys while you're walking through the grocery store. But he wants you to sit there for 70 times and recite Hail Mary, Hail Mary, full of grace, and the whole fucking thing. It's ridiculous.

The one we went to, all you had to do was say, sorry. I'm sorry, God. Oops. And you didn't need an intermediary. I don't like the whole idea of the intermediary. Like there's a fucking toll guy there like at the bridge between me and god going like you just stand like you want to talk to god dude that is you gotta talk to me if i'm a priest bouncer that's my favorite part of the job like yeah fucking speaking that sucks and running a small business

that is a church that sucks fundraisers this that listening to people's bitching but the part where i'm in there and you tell me all about like your gossip that's like that's the coolest like no wonder they set it up that way like yeah yeah don't you tell me all about it what'd you do i would be sitting in there trying to like get details where you know the woman would be there like and then susan she just she knocked my my casserole dish on the floor and she said, fuck you, Mary. And I didn't know why she was so upset. And you'd be like, well, well, I mean, what? I'm sure that Susan didn't just do that out of nowhere, ma'am.

I'm sure that you did something to, well, what happened before? Like, dig in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Or, you know, like, yeah, I cheated on my wife. I fucked Mrs. Stepford or whatever. C cup or miracle bra? I can't tell.

I can't ever tell because I'm a priest. She looks like she could suck a dick. Let me know. Be honest. Be honest. I just imagine the priest having some sort of marital bedroom discussion and coming off like Steve Carell in The 40-Year-Old Virgin.

Just completely uninformed, just trying to bullshit his way through the conversation it doesn't make sense to me and as a protestant or at least as someone who's raised protestant the whole idea like I said of this gatekeeper between you and God

who needs to hear all your secrets and then he's going to dole out the punishment just seems absurd to me it really is when you put it like that that's a really poignant point about religion like that's why christianity was so wildly you know on fire and adopted off the start and why it's still the by far largest religion in the world is that for years it was hey you people you fucking serfs you don't have to know how to read you come tell us

all the shit that you did in your dirt hovel with your ugly wife and your little nasty children and then we'll forgive you for it maybe and then they came along martin luther or whoever the fuck did it and came along with like uh hey you don't need all these assholes telling you what you what you can and can't say to god and you know you can just talk to god anytime. God's all around you. He's everywhere. You don't need to go to church to talk to God. You can talk to God right now. And still in our head in 2016, we're like, that's funny, because it's like a step in the right direction to a false conclusion.

But for them, it was more like, this is incredible. Like, my life has opened up a bit. I'm not beholden to this church where I have to pay a bunch of money or they tell me that my loved ones will remain in purgatory. That was a thing they did that's such fucking bullshit. They got rid of purgatory, I'm pretty sure. I think it's still gone. I don't think that Catholics believe in purgatory. I think they believe in purgatory.

I'm basing this on watching The Sopranos a whole lot. Paulie explained it once to Christopher. He had calculated up his mortal sins and his whatever, the other kind of sins, and you multiply them by a certain number, add it all together, and you get how many years you have to spend in purgatory. He was like, I'm working on a couple hundred years myself. No big deal. If you view Christianity through the lens that I do, which is normal people creating a

big scam and making themselves the beneficiary of it, then a lot of it starts to make sense. Like, yeah, of course you want to be the center of the knowledge, and your knowledge is power. And yeah, yeah, tell me all your blackmailable secrets, right, step- Control the narrative. Give that to me.

We need to tithe, right? 10% of everything you earn comes to me. For what reason? Ah, fucking, what's the matter? You don't have faith? And we need more faith out of you. And then like some competing organization coming up and be like, you know, we're more business friendly.

You know, I'm putting it in like state terms. They're like, yeah, you know, you don't have to tell all your secrets to me. That part we'll let you slide on. And, oh, so let's switch over to this one. Now there's competitive churching going on. Through that lens, all of it makes sense to me it could all be wrong too

but they're just regular people fucking you I think religion can be good for certain people like I don't think that it makes bad people into good people but I think it can provide structure for people's lives and like make people be

a better more productive member of society i mean that's kind of the reason that religion took off in the first place i'm sure back in like olden days of tribes and shit like a means of control of hey you can't be fucking oonga boonga's wife over there or you're gonna be in real trouble you know the sky god's gonna kill you like oh i better not do that then better just go hunt the mammoth and provide for my family well i think the problem was that you had there was there was stuff that you couldn't bash a guy's head in for every time he fucking did it and so guys were just running around doing that stuff all the time and you didn't know what to do anymore how could you have law and order without some morals and so they had

to come up with a way to enforce this uh all these morals. There's got to be a reason not to covet your neighbor's property and want to fuck his wife. They could have just done the Code of Hammurabi. Like one of the first written down laws where it was like very harsh and you know, literally like your eye for an eye.

Your neighbor pokes your eye out with a pitchfork on accident, well, he better strap himself in. I like the contractor's law. Oh, I wish I could remember the whole contractor's law. Yes, if the building falls on a family and kills them, then the contractor who built the house is to be put to death. Because apparently there was a big problem in ancient Sumeria

with very shady contractors. It's the second oldest profession after prostitutes, and they're both shady as shit. Like, you didn't put nearly enough mud in that thatch roof, Caleb. You will be put to death now. You didn't earthquake proof your mud abode. Is Hammer...

When you said that... Who's the gorilla? Ah, that's Harambe. I really thought we were discussing his code at first. Like, thou shalt not kill for standing near a child. Hammurabi was that ancient leader who was the first one to have the written law. I put it together eventually. But I really thought we were going to do some gorilla jokes for a while. Between Zoroastrianism and Hammurabi's code,

it seems like the Bible really borrowed a lot from other people. Jesus borrowed a huge amount from... Someone's going to leave a comment and explain the names that I got wrong, but it's close enough. So the story of Jesus, like born of God, the Trinity, he comes down, dies to save people, redeem their sins, comes back from the dead, yada yada. On Christmas.

Almost exactly, I'm sorry? I said on Christmas, that's part of where I... Oh yeah, on Christmas, you know, the Saturnalia, or whatever it is, that was the, Saturnalia I think was the festival for pagans before it became Christmas when Constantine politicized Christianity in whatever

century it was. Who is it a copy of? I forget, too. Is it some horse-faced god or something? Oh, no, no. It was a copy of the Egyptian gods. And before that, something else, I believe. Zoroastrianism was the first. Osiris was the son of Ra or whatever. And Osiris came down in a human form and died for the sins of Egyptian people and then came back to the dead

and now lives with Ra in heaven or whatever the hell it was like it was I'll have to go find the document itself but it really goes through and shows direct comparisons between ancient Egyptian scripts and the Bible and that whole story structure and the flood all of that stuff like so much of it is repurposed from old religions

I don't know a lot about Zoroastrianism, like you're saying, Kyle, but I'm sure that that... Yeah, I saw a YouTube video that laid all of this out, but the thing is, my own knowledge to sort of fact-check it is at zero. In the Christianity stuff, it's like, yeah, a lot of this sounds right. Jesus born on Christmas, okay, I'm with you to there. And then when they start talking about all these other religions, some of i hadn't even heard of i didn't know they were a thing at all um i i'm like i don't know if this is true or not but it sure is interesting yeah yeah religions

are really interesting to read up on just kind of figuring out what different religions say across the world and how it's kind of formed societies in those areas i want to learn more about like chinese religions and japanese is it taoism or is that japanese something taoism taoism it was taoist it's spelled taoism but it's pronounced taoism taoism well the more you know yeah the more you know knowledge is power yeah i heard taoism and i'm like is that a stock market thing like yeah that uh that link i i i'd send you to is exactly what we're just talking to and it's like the nitty-gritty details of uh everything that jesus and christianity stole from mithra and zoroastrianism that's that's exact thank you that's perfect so of course apparently the osiris thing with ra or

whoever it was was based on this mithra zoroastrianism kind of thing of you know sun being sent down died the whole the whole bit so it's neat you think like if you made a new religion i would want to make it from scratch because look at elrond hubbard he had some original fucking ideas. He's got spaceships. He's got DC-10s. He's got body thetans coming from ancient spirits. He's got Xenu, intergalactic warlords, all kinds of cool shit.

Volcanoes. He had original ideas. Yeah. Is that good? Not good ones. Not good ideas. Well, it's worked so far. You can have so bad original ideas.

Did you see that What's Her Name? That Leah Gatti something. That actress did that big expose against... I think she was on that show King of Queens. She's a well-known actress. And she was into Scientology for like $300,000 or $400,000. Was she the pretty wife in King of Queens? Yes.

Okay. Yeah. And now she's come out with this A&E thing, like telling all about Scientology and really throwing them under the bus. So Scientology is threatening to sue A&E. And today the actress did an Ask Me Anything on Reddit. It was pretty good. And she's brutal. Like she hates them. She's like, you know, when someone referred to it as religion, she puts religion in quotes. Yeah, the religion.

And she explains the hierarchy and how there's that guy at the top who knows it's all bullshit and he's the one who has these people below him and they don't know it's bullshit. And then there are the people who are being blackmailed and controlled. And it's pretty interesting.

Do you think that exists in Christianity? Oh, no, not even close to the same level. Are you asking if the Pope believes in God? What I'm asking is if that know-its-bullshit thing happens along the way, right? And I suspect it doesn't. I'll tell you why. My parents believe in God.

So they actually believe in God. And to them, they've had some verifiable miracles like you know i uh i wish i could think of something like oh yeah you know i um i prayed that pat would get a date and then there she was there she was it's a miracle and uh it's like really that that's your miracle that like you know somebody went on a date that that's that could have happened without god um yeah yeah i think that you just chimp attack woman a day that's a miracle the pope knows he's never spoken to god that he doesn't have any like indisputable proof the stuff that would really stand up to actually not to them though because to them it is proof like if you

talk to a religious person and you try and say like you know oh that's not proof of uh of this and that they'll tell you the whole thing they're supposed to say which is like well you know to someone on the outside who doesn't actually know the inner workings of god it does appear to be happenstance but when you have a relationship with god you you know he'll speak to you and he'll tell you these things and and really what it is when people think they're speaking to god i think it's just intuition because god's not talking to you. But I really don't think that the pope – like some popes throughout time, especially like, I don't know, 700 years ago when being the pope didn't just mean you live in this small – Yeah, you were like a king.

Like when King Henry VIII was talking to King Francis in France, it wasn't just, hey, we need to talk about what we're going to do as nations. It was, hey, we need to get the approval of the Pope. We need to get Pius IX or whatever to get behind us to give our leadership credence. Because I'm the king, and the only person higher than me is God and the Pope. Isn't the Pope actually, if you believe the Bible literally,

isn't he supposed to be in radio contact with God? Isn't he supposed to be able to get on his God phone and be like, yo. We covered this in school. Apparently popes can claim that they do or don't talk to God and none of them have lately. Now that's from the 80s but

or the 90s, whatever it was. So apparently some popes say yeah, I straight up talk to God, I have regular conversations like we do and some say yeah, I apparently some popes say, yeah, I straight up talk to God, have regular conversations like we do. And some say, yeah, I don't actually do that. And apparently the latter is more common right now. I would prefer that in my pope, wouldn't you? Wouldn't you like the pope who doesn't have an imaginary friend?

Yes. But I just wonder if your question – because there are people who flat out believe in God. I've seen a guy. He took a picture. It's called Jesus Rays. I'm sure there's another name for it too. Sunlight. Yeah, it's sunlight.

Typically beams of sunlight through like a forest canopy or something, and they call them Jesus Rays. And he's like, anyone who thinks that this happens without God is just, you know, like I can't understand where they're coming from. And I think, huh, so you consider sunlight proof of God? So their standard for proof, in my opinion, is very low. When you get someone like the Pope, who let's all assume is very intelligent and on top of things,

I guess he believes it all, I guess. But is there some little doubt somewhere up top, cardinals, pope, whatever, who thinks? Yeah, there's got to be. Here's what I think, honestly and I think that we're naive if we don't think this because every now and then we get a little peek under the rug

of these higher branches of society than we're all part of and we always find dirt and filth there, I think there's a big component of the catholic church that is absolutely evil and all about fucking little boys and like maintaining some sort of global power structure. There's so much money flowing when you've got a billion people in your cult

and they're all flowing it up to the top. Along the way, that's a billion people paying in all over the world. Like 1.8 billion or something. It's enormous. Yeah. billion or something like yeah it's enormous yeah i and like when they talk about spreading christianity and such do some of them at that meeting table think like this is a business right we're talking about marketing decisions here yeah and we're spreading christianity are we saving souls or collecting dollars both i think that think that even within the organization, there's probably a lot of people who genuinely think, like, this is my calling.

I feel like God is telling me to do this. Like, I want to do right by God. That's the number one thing in my life. What if there is a God? And those people within the organization are being taken advantage of as well by the people in the organization who are like, oh, yeah, Pope. Like, you're totally right about making that statement. Yeah, God definitely wants that. Fucking idiot.

Can't wait until we talk about the new 11% tithe rollout marketing plan for next year. That will be a funny day. You know what? 10% just is not cutting it, guys. I am so sorry. It's going to have to be a little more. You're going to have to 10% at more yeah we've got a inch at home we've got a shrinking prayer base and we need to raise taxes from 10 to 11 percent

to maintain our current levels of revenue yeah and while we're on this topic you're not making it home in time for the cowboys game you know this isn't going to be done we're taking it very seriously yeah anyway kyle what were you trying to say i don't know i just don't like religions um i'm trying to think if there's anything else to cover trump trump did so many things what do you think he's doing romney because here's what i'm thinking there's a couple and maybe i've went through this before but there is the chance that and i part of me hopes that this isn't who trump is but part of me hopes it is who Trump is. Romney dogged him like nobody else dogged Trump.

Romney recorded those robocall messages for his competitors where a machine calls your phone and, Hi, I'm Ed Romney, and I'm here to tell you why Donald Trump will not be the next president of the United States and why you should vote for whoever the other guy was that was in second place. He was doing that shit. I'm hoping that Trump has invited him over, given him a little hope, and as soon as he walks out he closes that door and they all bust into laughter. Like they're playing a big

joke on Mitt Romney on a global fucking stage. The same stage he used to mock Donald. And now, tonight, right about now actually, Mitt Romney is used to mock Donald. And now, tonight, right about now, actually, Mitt Romney is having dinner with Donald. And so he's finding out, because I bet Mitt Romney isn't quite sure.

He doesn't know any more than I do whether Donald is about to be like, no, change my mind. This is like when this scrawny, nerdy kid tries out for a frat, and they make it seem like he might get in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like that pig date night, like when your hopes get so high, Ronnie nerdy kid tries out for a frat and they make it seem like he might get in. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Or like that pig date night. Like when you, you know, your hopes get so high and you realize you're just the, the, the, the,

the, the, the joke. You are the joke. It's the dinner for schmucks. Yeah. Tonight might be his kid. Like Mitt Romney getting pig blood dumped on him from above.

And like all of Donald's friends, like where wearing masks, like laughing at him pointing like it might be some dark shit for Mitt Romney tonight or he might pick him as Secretary of State which would be a really

fascinating move too. This whole concept of words matter right this was a big thing and historically when the president just utters something like it moves markets, jobs get created, companies get destroyed. Words matter when you're president. But I think Trump's – like I'm getting numb to them. You know when North Korea says, I'm going to send missiles to America and we're going to turn that whole country to glass.

I'm just like, ah, fuck it. It's North Korea. They say crazy shit, right? Like that's a thing. But he doesn't have the missiles. That's why we laugh. Well, he's got stuff. You don't know. He's got nukes. He doesn't have the missiles, but he has nukes.

Well, so he's on the border with South Korea, so of course he's got a missile that'll hit them. But he ain't got anything that'll hurt us. What's he gonna send one of those clunky fucking submarines over here? I've always wondered why it's so hard. Like, couldn't they just do some sailing La Vagabonde-like yacht and get it over here? I don't know. But anyway.

Just put more gas in the rocket. But anyway, there are certain leaders. The Philippines and North Korea come to mind. Or is it Singapore? I might be mixing it up. But they say silly, silly things. And now our leader does. And I feel like so long as you know that this leader is prone to saying

silly things, then you can take their words more appropriately. Like, oh, did Trump say something wacky that now we're going to scale back the First Amendment? Trump just being Trump. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe, or maybe he'll start fucking making executive decisions amending the Constitution and writing fucking laws into law it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting that's not how it works though you ever see running man you better hope that donald doesn't stay up late one night tweeting at 3 a.m and all of a sudden arnold schwarzenegger's running man comes on television because that'll be

your fucking future he'll be you know i think schwarzenegger got it right this is how we should handle our criminal justice system. Law and order. Let them fight it out. Oh, did you remember Obama signed something saying they were going to get rid of federal prisons? I'm sorry. Private prisons. I said it wrong.

I think I wanted to say is federal prisons were going to stop going to be private. And since then, they're just like renewing contracts with private companies business as usual backing up on that yeah i don't know i really like the idea betrayal too yeah i do too what you would think is his main constituency right like like if you're a black american right now who is a victim of that of that of the prison industrial system as they called it in oz then aren't you looking at this as a real dark day? I look at Obama through this rose colored lens. You know, I've said it a bunch of times. Everyone looks at their guy through a lens. And I looked at it and said, I guess he just felt like he had to, you know, like he wanted to get

rid of private prisons. And then when he tried it, realized that there weren't public ones standing by ready to fire up. Like maybe he can't implement this like he dreamed. He tried to shut down Guantanamo, right? He like signed it. I think that was a mistake. I feel like I don't know enough. He didn't get anything done. So no mistake made.

He didn't get anything. There you go. But he tried. Like he legit tried. He put that up. And I think he got voted down two or three times. And people are like, oh, he lied about that. Well, there's a variation between lying and not getting it done. I think we got voted down two or three times. And people are like, oh, he lied about that. Well, there's a variation between lying and not getting it done.

I think we need to torture. I think we do need to torture. You know, not pulling fingernails off. That's not necessary. But I like the waterboarding and all that stuff. I think we should do that. I don't know. Just put Chelsea Handler's show on and leave it on a loop in a very silent room.

No, fuck Chelsea Handler. She's hot. that on a loop in a very silent room. I like Chelsea Handler. I think she's attractive. No, fuck Chelsea Handler. She's hot. I think she's attractive and she's funny as long as she doesn't get political. She's not funny in the least. I chuckle. That's why she's bad.

That's the only explanation. That's it. She's a professional comedian who is woefully unfunny. There are people who are unfunny who you don't like. And then there are people who are so unfunny in a position who are unfunny who you don't like and then there are people who are so unfunny in a position where they're supposed to be funny that you like you catch yourself like chipping your teeth you're gritting so hard people like trevor noah and chelsea handler you know who is my least funny funny person the person i hate the most that people think is funny martin lawrence

I hate the most that people think is funny. Martin Lawrence. I'm told he's a pretty great guy, but I can't think of any role that he's in that I don't just detest. I am on board with you on that. I can't, now that I'm thinking about it, I can't think of anything that he's actually funny yet.

What's the guy from Shawshank Redemption? Martin Lawrence did a job, did a movie with him once, and I thought it was just hilarious. I don't know. I've enjoyed some Martin Lawrence stuff. Andy? Andy Duprain? Andy Duprain, yeah. That's his name. Whatever else he did, I don't know what.

I really don't like Louis C.K. I don't find anything he does funny. I'm hit or miss on Louis. He hasn't hit yet. I haven't enjoyed anything he does funny um i'm hitter i'm louis i i he hasn't hit yet i i haven't i haven't enjoyed anything he's ever done i just can't get into it and i you know it's i know he's wildly popular i'm just in the minority it doesn't do it there was a time it's funny call it four years ago where i thought louis ck was and i i still do it just not anymore just doing the as good as stuff has ever been done in the realm of comedy, right? Like, not Chris Tucker, Chris Rock, right?

At his peak, I thought his stuff was great. Eddie Murphy at his peak, I thought his stuff was amazing. I thought Louis C.K., or I think Louis C.K. at his peak was right there with the best that there is. And right now, and I never liked his stuff before, I feel like rogan's got the best recent special i've seen in a while triggered i really enjoyed triggered i think rogan had a good one but i mean yeah what a multi-talented guy i'm a big fan of rogan just because of all the cool shit he does and how good he is at it virtually all of it like you know what's his black belt is it is it jujitsu or taekwondo both there you go so he's that kind of guy you know he's just

very impressive uh he acts well he he he's a great host of whatever you put him on and i don't and the fact that he's so so knowledgeable about mma like i'm i was so uh which is and i were talking about this the other day like i really preferred if joe's on there i'm watching the fs1 fights the fox fights and the and that stuff and it doesn't have him. And it's got some guy that's much younger and kind of looks like a douchebag, and when he gets in the ring with a fighter, they don't look like peers at all.

When Joe gets in there, Joe's not a fighter, but he's definitely fighter-adjacent. He's definitely part of that community. When you're on the main card of a pay-per-view event there's a certain aura there right there's the big lights the big stage the pay-per-view the bigger arena the whole thing and I feel like Joe is part of that big time package when a fighter

gets interviewed by Joe Rogan they're like holy shit I'm really doing it. I actually won a main UFC fight here, and I'm talking to Joe fucking Rogan right now. And when you're being interviewed by Brian Stan or Kenny Florian or something like that, it's like, yeah, yeah. I like Kenny Florian. He's okay. I like them both. And Brian Stan in particular is a great human being, but they don't have the aura. Joe means Madison Square Garden.

Yeah, I like Joe a lot. I feel like he adds a ton to it. But they don't have the aura. Joe means Madison Square Garden. Yeah, I like Joe a lot. I feel like he adds a ton to it. And I think you chimed in the other day and agreed. He disagrees with the UFC. He disagrees with whatever he sees. If he sees bullshit, no matter whose bullshit it is, whether it's the UFC's, Dana White's, a fighter, a ref, a corner man, a cut man, a fan out in the audience. He calls in a meeting. He's like, hey, that's bullshit.

We should do something about that right now. That shouldn't be like that. That messes everything up. We can't be having that. Look at it. They spilled ice. Yeah, I hate that scene. Joe does this thing that I like a lot. Let's say of the top ten fighters, two of them

are in Bellator. Joe will mention that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The UFC's's say of the top ten fighters, two of them are in Bellator. Joe will mention that. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the UFC's got eight of them. I feel like everyone else has to act as if there are no other fighters outside of the UFC. And if they are, they're just minor leaguers wishing they were in the UFC. No, dude, Rory McDonald's like the third best in his weight class, and he just went to Bellator.

So he's out there. Eddie Alvarez came from i think it was bellator could have been strike force but i think he was in bellator i'm not sure and uh but he just joined the ufc and like three fights later he was champ dude so where can i watch these bellator fights and do they fight in a cage or do they have those fucking ropes i hate the ropes so much uh they have a cage and they're on TV. Viacom owns them. I don't think they're pay-per-view. Bellator used to be

pay-per-view, but they didn't get enough buys and it just made more sense to put it on TV. I don't even know. I'll have to figure it out. I don't know where to watch. Yeah, I'm going to try and get more of the UFC so then we can all be on the same page with the sport. I'm really enjoying it because I've watched so many fights in the last... I've watched 40 fights in the last two weeks. I've had to because of those two pay-per-view

events and, uh, the, uh, all the Fox fights and his prelims and stuff. Um, I've had, I've really been enjoying it. And then I watched like a ton of like, oh, I wish I could think of the guy's YouTube channel. He's got like a ton of these videos that are like, um, the dirtiest MMA fighters, biggest mismatches, biggest beatdowns. He's got, like, all of those videos. So I just watched him in succession to see, like, you get to the dirtiest fighters, and you'll immediately pick some guys. You're like, well, fuck that guy.

Michael Bisbing was, of course, right in there for his eye pokes, his groin kicks. Really? I don't think of him as dirty. Okay. They showed him doing a lot of dirty stuff and also spitting on the other guy's corner man. Now that one he was a little just. There was a big pre-fight lead up to that. I won't say he was a gentleman.

He spat on another man. Now I did see another instance where. In the south. That's an insult. That's a Wings reaction. In the deep south it's foreplay. I saw one of them where, like, in the pre-fight thing where they're, like, doing the, like, fist by each other's face thing. Dude brought a squirt bottle, a ch-ch-ch bottle full of urine and nails the guy in the face immediately with as many pumps as he can get in before they're pulled apart.

Wow. That's just assault. That's just assault. So he should go to jail. You know what I hope happens? I hope that guy has to forfeit the fight because he's dealing with something in prison. He's in jail. He's

finding out that being the best wrestler in Bellator isn't that great when there's seven Aryans holding you down. So what an asshole. Fuck him. Spraying urine on someone? Seriously, fuck that guy. Sometimes it goes the other way. I like that a lot.

I hope he got in a car accident on the way home. They bring snacks to the weigh-in and they have them for their opponent too. Like, dude, I brought cupcakes. You want some? And they both just made weight. Like, yeah, I do want cupcakes right now. And like share them in their way and smile for the cameras and that stuff's always fun give each other flowers oh you like it well there's piss in that cupcake you know the thing that jizz came inside that cupcake boy i'm gonna fuck you their ass tomorrow

in the ring oh you think i mind having a little bit of cum in my cupcake oh you'll do nothing you'll do nothing you'll do nothing i'll eat all the cum you need yeah that's all your protein i'll take your strength from you he was telling you in the ring tomorrow night i'll fuck you up oh you'll do nothing i like connor i think he's my i'll just pick him he's my he's a lot of people's face so i i don't know what the betting odds will be on fight night but I saw that it's two to one Ronda over Nunez and I'm gonna bet on Nunez. I'm gonna, I don't know

how to bet on Nunez but I'm gonna get started on that process. I'm gonna put some money in some online account and put a hundred fucking dollars on Nunez to win that fight and if they're like you know, if you can like go if it's like two to one that she that she wins or whatever,

maybe there are odds of like her submitting Ronda. Maybe there are odds of her knocking Ronda out. I say she knocks Ronda out. Dude, there have been two things I've been really certain of. I thought I gave real consideration to betting $10,000 on Hillary to win and Eddie Alvarez to beat Conor. And I'm very glad that I still have both of those in my pocket. Yeah, it's $20,000 I didn't lose on those two sure things.

My confidence is shaking. But like $40,000 that you almost made. Yeah, but it's the God. I think the odds are good for this, though, because Ronda is such an unknown after taking a year off. We don't know if her mind is strong. We don't know if she's committed to a career in MMA the way that you need to be going into this.

We don't know if her body is right. We don't know if her skills are right. I don't know if her hands are where they need to be. Is she going to be throwing into this. We don't know if her body is right. We don't know if her skills are right. I don't know if her hands are where they need to be. Is she going to be throwing those crazy punches like she did coming out? Or is she going to be standing there taking your time, measuring her opponent, and

sticking and jabbing and moving? Is it just going to be pure judo and rage? Or is she going to come out and be able to fight this nunia nunia's character who seems pretty fucking tough for people that don't know that the questions kyle has have been widely asked like these aren't dumb questions they she was really shaken mentally and you still i think i was just reading about today how she's pissed off at joe rogan

uh because joe rogan apparently wasn't completely 100% loyal to her and said she got rocked or had a bad day or whatever. And she just pissed off at a lot of people. She didn't take a loss very well. There's actually no one who's taken a loss worse than her. And when she got the bronze medal in judo in the Olympics, she just quit judo and became a bartender. Like, she could have made another. Obviously, her and became a bartender. She could have made another.

Obviously, her athletic career is not over. She could have gone for another gold. But instead, she just fucking packed up her bags and left. Now she takes her first loss in the UFC. We don't know what she has. She's a complete head case. That much we know. I just don't know what she'll be like on fight night.

If there's two to one odds, might be smart. I don't know. I'm going to keep my money in my pocket. Worst case scenario, the fight still is more fun than normal to watch, and I lose $100. Best case scenario, I win a couple hundred bucks. I think that's what's going to happen, too. I don't think she's going to win. I don't think she's going to win, and I think

it's going to be a real embarrassment. I hope she doesn't win, because if she does win, I think she's going to retire. She'll have one more snowball title defense, some bullshit, and she'll beat up another Pilates instructor or housewife, and then she'll retire on top

after some colossal 13-second victory over Tammy Baker from Greenville, South Carolina or some shit. Has she literally fought a Pilates instructor, or is that just an example? That's just an example of where a lot of those fighters come from. Oh, you're right.

If you watch that, I was watching those videos, the different categories of MMA stuff, and one of them was the MMA mismatches, and it was, I don't know what division of fighting, but it looked pretty legit, and there was a female fighter who was 100% legit. She had that man, she had man shoulders. They were extra wide. She was cut, ripped, muscular, and she was bouncing on her toes. She could fucking fight.

And the woman she was fighting was literally, they described her as a housewife who saw Ronda Rousey, who was inspired by Ronda Rousey. Oh, God. And she comes out, and she's literally doing this. Like, she comes, and the other chick is just coming with overhand rights, just pummeling her really, really hard. I watched two or three hours of those YouTube videos.

We had a good time with that. I don't like seeing people get hurt and be like, oh, no, his brain, his brain, his brain. But first of all, if I think they deserve it, like the tattooed guy who was being an asshole to Nguyen. Ben Nguyen. Ben Nguyen, yeah. Ben Nguyen's one of my new favorites.

Ben Nguyen is great. His name is spelled like N-G-Y. N-G-U-Y-E-N. He's Korean, I think. But it's pronounced Nguyen. It's the most common last name in Vietnam, I believe. I worked with a Vietnamese guy named Nguyen at Cisco.

Yeah. Probably him. I thought it was Nguyen, so you have saved me embarrassment. I should have known. I worked with a guy, but I still called him Nguyen because I'm fucking me. Because I am who I am.

You fuck up enough names, they'll make a few videos about it. I didn't watch the second one. I watched the first one and I thought it was funny too. Very funny. Well, that's probably a show, right? Yeah. All right. PKA episode 120 good times

good night everyone