Painkiller Already - PKN #132

Episode Date: March 3, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pkn episode 132 how is everybody great excited excited on my mind um milo milo right into milo is in the dog house right now and i have been in the dog house and it seems like there's no escape online you know like like everyone's talking about me everywhere i go poking poking poking you know in like other youtubers are making videos about me it's the end of the fucking world everywhere dude it is did simon and schuster copy right right now imagine it with cnn and fox and msnbc and hln and uh and pbs and nbc and and ABC and all of them joining those YouTubers. Right, right. It's not just just cops, baby.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Turn on YouTube and be like, oh, you know, my problems aren't that bad compared to Syria or Somalia. It's going, oh, dreadful, and turning it on. It's like, you know, deranged British man. That's all they're talking about. There is, everywhere I go, he is the number one topic. and turning it on and it's like you know deranged british man that's all they're talking about there is everywhere i go he is the number one topic and you know i go on places that talk about politics
Starting point is 00:01:10 but yeah he is there's just there is no escape unless he turns off everything electronic he's just i was thinking about it today like not even in regard to what happened. Just the response. Because of it, he is bona fide, for sure, famous now. He is echelons above fame where he was when he came on PKA or when he did that podcast that everybody was referencing.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I think what you're saying is Painkiller already has been a magnificent launching board for his career. I think... Well, now that might not be the thing you wanted when i just originally read the headline that he had said on a podcast something about underage boys i was like when i click this am i gonna be the one prodding him and going really so 13 i guess i mean if you it's hey you were the victim you would know better than anyone like am i the one who's like yeah all right sounds good like i was like let's see what it is check the headline and it's internet russian not russian at all
Starting point is 00:02:14 connection to milo's uh yes you're the Russian connection. No! Dude, he, like, so for people who don't know, Milo's a provocateur, right? And his whole shtick, I wasn't quick to recognize it, but it's like, I'm gay, so I can talk about gay people. I fuck black guys, so I can talk about black people. You know, I'm gay, so I can talk about feminists. You can't come back at me because I'm in my own group. you know, I'm gay so I can talk about feminists. You can't come back at me because I'm in my own group. It's like he says things that are provocative,
Starting point is 00:02:50 but he has a shield because of who he is in his private life. And in addition to that, he's good-looking and charming, and he does like a naughty laugh. And part of it is that like anytime you voice opinions like Milo voices, you get attacked in a very specific way. And it's always, hey, you can't say those things because you are you, not one of us. And here we have a guy who's one of them, as it were.
Starting point is 00:03:11 At least in some regards. The whole climate of identity politics made it so that if you said something and the person you were saying it to, they don't like it, their first response goes straight to, you can't say that like kyle said because of because of who you are because your skin's white or because you have a
Starting point is 00:03:28 dick or because whatever that's those are pretty much the only two and also he has a real knack for being charming and clever and he has this snicker that's like aren't i naughty and uh and naughty is the perfect word to describe it it's like you know I know I'm being bad but isn't it cute you know the way that I do it and uh that was tremendously effective when he was talking about Gamergate when he was talking about feminism the wage gap um politics and religion but apparently there is no shield from the pedo stuff. There is. There is. It just depends who you are. Again, he's getting attacked for the pedo
Starting point is 00:04:10 thing because of who he is. There are plenty of other people who could have just gotten away just fine with what he said. Only if they're priests. Only if they're women. Roman Polanski got away with it. People still want to do movies with that fucking pedophile. I guess maybe you saw Jim Norton's tweet.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Like Lena Dunham, like talk about like doing stuff with her sister and her own. Yeah, she molested her sister when she was younger. And then they also I saw them bring up, you know, everyone. The anyone who's on Milo's side is, of course, searching for some hypocrisy in this attack. And so they go to like the vagina monologues where you know then they pull a quote from that and it's the quote is literally like i was 13 and she was a much older woman and it was a good rape the words good rape are right in there and then they show the headlines of the uh the news agencies who praised the vagina monologues for being brave and going where other people wouldn't go and it's it's the that are, of course, attacking Milo.
Starting point is 00:05:06 If you go to what he said, though, he was talking about himself being the child. There's more to it. There's sort of two things that he talks about. One is, when I was 13 I took part in an interracial gangbang and it was great.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That's part of what he says. Another part of it is when he was 14, he hooked up with a priest. I think the priest was 27. I might have that wrong. And that guy was fantastic. I give better blowjobs to this day because of the relationship I had with that guy. And then he says that in the gay community, this is, I think, the part that's the hardest to overlook, that it's like a common thing where there might be an adult who helps that child come of age and um you know find out who they really are so that was a common thing i think his boy comment was more like oh it's common i'm not gay so i don't
Starting point is 00:05:58 know if it's actually common but he was saying it's common for older gay guys to say about younger gay guys who are still legal, like not children, like 18, 19, 20, 20, whatever. They'll call them like boys, not young men or something. Or I saw something about how he was making a hullabaloo over that. Yeah, Woody's on target with this one. He said something that definitely looks bad, you know, when taken in any context, really. But the context, I think it should be viewed in, even though we're dealing with this provocateur, is it was a late night podcast, and I believe he was maybe drinking. Like, God, think about the shit we've said that could be pulled out of context, you know, although he seems particularly genuine about this opinion.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And like you said, he's from that lifestyle. That's what he's grown up into. He probably knows better than us. And it's not for us to – I don't know if it's right or wrong, but he's telling me at 14, I would have loved to have been taken advantage of by a 27, 28-year-old student teacher. Well, at that age, they're not a student teacher. A teacher. I remember Miss White. Miss White, God, she was so hot she she didn't have a uh an education degree she had merely served a certain amount of time in the military and so that gets you that makes you a teacher these days apparently um at least in georgia i had two teachers who had no teaching credentials
Starting point is 00:07:18 they had just been in the army um uh one of them was coach hall and he was angry and he had had a knee injury and he'd get red faced and scream but the other was mrs white and she was and she was very attractive and i would have loved to have been molested by mrs white daily i know i know all the jokes you wouldn't in real life in real life i would have i was 14 if you're a child it's it is more i was 14 i wanted to fuck her in the asshole. These were the thoughts I had. I wasn't having childlike delusions of, ooh, it'd be nice if me and Mrs. White were boyfriend and girlfriend, and she took me out to dinner, and we watched R-rated movies. My thought process was like, I hope she bends over a little further so I can see a little more thigh. It was constant dirty, perverted thoughts.
Starting point is 00:08:03 There were no childhood. more thigh like like it was constant like dirty perverted thoughts there were no childhood chasm between you wanting to see more ass crack and her abusing a power dynamic but to the milo thing real like back to it in all seriousness like if you listen i watch the clips and everything and he has like a totally warped view of reality in regard to that like it's a really warped fucked up thing to say that he says flippantly but i think the reason that he's saying that is it is tremendously common for people who were molested to retroactively change it to say i wanted it i desired that i wasn't taken advantage of i wanted that and that gives them a little more control over and that's not uncommon with people who are molested.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And from what he said in interviews over and over about, oh, so you lost your virginity when you were very young. His first thing always is, yeah, but I wanted it. Like, it wasn't like I was taken advantage of. Like, oh, I give much better head. Ha, ha, ha. Is everybody buying it? Are people believing? Like, that's the vibe I get from it. Where, like, yeah, he has a warped perception of things.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Like a lot of people who are abused when they're young. They have a very warped perception of sexuality and how it works. What constitutes abuse? Is the only thing that constitutes sexual abuse the age gap? Because what he's describing doesn't sound like sexual abuse. I'm just saying that it doesn't have... Like, you can see what he's saying and say, obviously, that's a warped view of sexuality, of course.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And also say, like, it seems like this is a person who was abused and that they're trying to rationalize their own i've had that same thought taylor you know and and like you said it's a real victim thing to sort of find a way to take control over it and some power uh that's a thing um but i also have some thoughts with kyle for me, it wasn't 14, but like 16-year-old Woody, if some hot teacher fucked me daily, I don't think I'd be the victim. I think that I would,
Starting point is 00:09:53 that would be a trophy in my mental bookcase that I kept on into the rest of my life. You'd be 40 years old and you'd be like, look, when I was 16, Do you know the kind of tail I pulled?
Starting point is 00:10:04 Every one of that school wish they fucked her, but it me right like they didn't even have a driver's license Right now he was 14 and I think that's different. I think that's getting a little young 14 year old dudes Dude, no like you guys are forgetting what it's like to be a 14 year old dude, and you're closer to it than I am The argument that you like you are transposing 30 year old brain in there with all the interest i'm remembering what happened when i was a 14 year old boy all the things you've learned since you were 14 you have no you can't go back to what it's like to be 14 i can't woody can't none of us can so the argument i'm thinking of specific situations i remember we were 15 it
Starting point is 00:10:39 was summer break and we were all blown away because one of our friends at baseball camp was banging this like 20 something year old like counselor or something like that and we all understood completely what was going on there that it was a sexual relationship that he needed to use protection like we weren't fools we were we were somewhere between man and and children i absolutely and we were all like man we're so jealous he and we were all like, don't tell anybody. Don't tell anybody. You can't tell anybody this. She'll get in trouble. You'll get in trouble. And it'll stop. And everybody was like, yeah, lock this down. You know, Brandon is getting more pussy than anybody knows what to deal with right now.
Starting point is 00:11:16 He's getting adult pussy. That chick has a job. Like we were blown away by it. She can buy anything she wants at McDonald's. Yeah, it's funny. Like Brandon, there's someone else out there who doesn't feel comfortable coming to anyone because there's a power dynamic. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Like it's not, I will not make the equivocation that it's as damaging for a 27 year old woman to fuck a 14 year old boy as the opposite genders. I definitely think that the man having sex with a young woman, I think that's much worse, but I don't know the whole, like, I would like it thing just bothers me a little bit because you know that there are people out there who had that experience and now are like, this fucking sucks. Like not only did I get molested, but nobody fucking cares. Nobody takes me seriously. I'm just made fun of and people say oh you know what you're
Starting point is 00:12:05 lucky you're lucky i wish i was molested i would have loved being molested i had a hot teacher when i was 14 my god did you did you fuck a girl like like i just i don't know it's kind of i also feel like we're skipping out like we're looking at this individually and applying milo's experience you know to other people milo Milo. And he says provocative things and gets away with it because other people can, right? We talked about the identity politics. I think his whole like,
Starting point is 00:12:31 oh, it's great when these old guys fuck young guys is something he thought he could get away with because he did it. And he says, you know, well, I was the aggressor. It was great.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I loved it. I feel like he's putting on a little shock value there and did not expect this reaction and another like the way that he went like in part of it like i'm so skeptical that people are doing like all like part of me like uh inception is like but what if he knows what if he really doesn't think of himself as a victim in his heart of hearts and he is just playing up this victim card now as like a get out of jail free card because it was the only option left the only road left to take you know to to change it from i love that because if he's not
Starting point is 00:13:14 he should be i read his response and it was heavily focused on the you know i'm a gay guy and i was molested as a kid and so it was was like, I don't know, it was immediately a very different angle, which if you had seen this angle before of him saying, I was, or maybe he has said I've been molested before, but I liked it. Maybe that's the way he phrased it. I don't know. It's just, it's a very quick swap.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And so it's hard to tell if it's truly genuine, you know, or- Millions of dollars are on the line, right? So like, he's going to say whatever he needs to say. But he might not even know Taylor, right? Like he might have unresolved feelings on this. He would be so mad if you said that to him. He'd be like, I know what I know.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know what you know. How dare you question what I know? Like, I think we all know what we know, right? Like, it's easy to, like, be like, ah, maybe he doesn't even know what he's saying. I think we just have to take people. You guys had a very fortunate childhood if you have no unresolved issues from yours. But, uh. Lots of, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:06 lots of... You know what your unresolved issues are. You know? Like, you don't even have that in... Like you were saying, you may have something from your childhood that's unresolved. It doesn't have to be like somebody beat your ass to a pulp and left you in the rain one day. It could just be something where...
Starting point is 00:14:22 I don't know. Like, something traumatic. Actually, I don't know. Is there there a small trauma all have childhood traumas that stay with us for life it's part of having a life you know like like you'd be a very boring fucking vanilla ass person if some bad shit doesn't happen to you along the way the bad stuff is what leaves its mark and makes us different and interesting and able to deal with more bad stuff as we go on when it actually matters if you can if you can get past that bad shit that happens from 0 to 18 then the 18 to 70 stuff gets easier and easier to deal with and in this guy's case though honestly as i look at it i'm like he didn't say anything that bad i don't think it what he at least he was now if he had said hey there's a couple of 13 year old boys down at down at the YMCA, and I'm going to tell you, they want it.
Starting point is 00:15:06 They want it morning, noon, and night. When they see old Milo coming, well, they just bend right over. They know what's going on. They're reaching for the Vaseline. Like, if he said that, whoa, back up, you fucking child molester. Like, now we need to burn you at the stake. But what he said was, when I was a boy, I was the one on the receiving end, and I didn't mind a bit. a boy i was the one on the receiving end and i didn't mind a bit and uh that's a part of gay culture and like to some extent that a young an older man will sort of uh have a spartan-like
Starting point is 00:15:31 relationship with a younger boy and and rise him up through the ranks of homosexuality i suppose i think that's like got him in trouble that part where he tried like instead of just sticking to his i didn't have a problem with it he tried to bridge it and make it seem like, and this is what makes me once again think that it is unresolved stuff, is that he tried to bridge it and make it seem like, oh, it's not just me that it's okay with. This is just something that happens. So if you think about it, I'm not even weird.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Maybe in some way, because I haven't heard him in context, I've only read the transcript, maybe in some way he was taking a shot at the gay community. But being like, and another thing they do is like, it's a part of what gay people do. Older guys and younger boys. That is the gay community. Because he takes shots at every little group. Even the ones he corresponds to.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Or even the ones he claims to. Basically, it comes down to what he said. It's such a warped perception of sexuality that it's fucked up and people from every side can see that. It's just a matter of like, why do you think he said that do you really think he said it because he's a pedophile or do you think he said it because he's trying to rationalize something that happened to him in his past it could be that or he could be entertaining or he could be just drunk and just talking off the top of his head and he's like oh let's talk about child molestation that the comment
Starting point is 00:16:41 box is going crazy right now they love that you know it's a real shame i think that when when i i feel bad for him because of the simon and schuster thing and because of the bright bart job um you know we don't really know milo in any way and but from what i've read and seen i don't think of him as certainly as a pedophile or someone who's engages in that he's made it very clear he's interested in much larger, more powerful black men. I don't think we have to worry about Milo going after any young whippersnappers or anything. So I definitely feel kind of bad that it's...
Starting point is 00:17:16 He normalized pedophilia. And he did it, I think, because he likes being provocative. He gets a lot of attention and he gets away with it because of his background. think because he likes being provocative he gets a lot of attention and he gets away with it because of his background and uh this time there was no getting away with it not yet we're it's not over yet we it's not over yet we need to see that abc tearful interview where he where he spells out the uh the history of abuse and molestation that that he that he uh that he suffered through and then he talks about um how he's learned to deal with that
Starting point is 00:17:46 and how his psychologist helped him understand, helped him take power and take control of those harmful memories by using this technique. And then all of a sudden, maybe people won't care so much. I'm curious where this goes, because yesterday I thought what you thought. I thought, you know what? This is just more attention, more goodness for him.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Great, great, great. And then it was like, all right, book canceled. Well, that sucks, but it's okay because the fucking documentary he's been making on this college tour is going to go make $100 million. Now I feel like that thing is sunk. Now I feel like the book thing is sunk and his Breitbart job is sunk.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And so much is sunk. What's gone? What's that? Yeah, he quit. He resigned from Breitbart. I know that. Did much is sunk. What's gone? What's that? Yeah, he quit. He resigned from Breitbart. I know that. Did I not say that? Well, you said it.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I said it was sunk. I don't know. Yeah, I guess. All these things are gone. The book, the thing. And I also feel like, you know, college campuses aren't going to want the pro-pedo guy like they used to, maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:43 It just, this has been more damaging than I thought it was going to be yesterday. I thought that it was just going to be, ah, we hate Milo. Yeah, you hate everyone. They still make money. We hate Glenn Beck at some point. I think, I mean, the book thing,
Starting point is 00:18:57 because I saw that he said he's still going to release the book. And it's not like it's, you know, 70 years ago where you need simon and schuster you could just self-publish and sell it on amazon but maybe even make more money who knows especially given the amount of popularity where a lot of people who don't give a fuck a huge amount towards or against him might just be like you know what let's see what he has to say and they may read it and hate it or they may read it and love it but either way they're buying a
Starting point is 00:19:22 book you're right and this current wave of coverage will only intensify or at least flare back up when the book does release on amazon or wherever the fuck you know they'll be like ah my the dangerous faggot tour has has reached its climax the the the the you know self-proclaimed uh pedophile or whatever cnn will call him um is uh is released his book and yeah i think it'll sell well i don't think we have to worry about him being in the poorhouse. His star fell a few notches this week. And it wasn't because of something he did this week. It was because they dug up some stuff he said a while back.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And that feels kind of shitty. Did you hear the George Takei clip of George talking about pretty much the same thing? Yeah, George Takei says the same thing. Yeah, he's like, oh, I was a boy. He's basically like, when I was a boy at summer camp, I was, I don't remember if it was 12, 13, or 14, but there was this older counselor, and Howard Stern's like, and you liked him? Oh, yes, I liked him a lot. And he's just like, he's basically explaining how he had sex with this guy when he was a child,
Starting point is 00:20:24 and this guy was an adult, and how i liked all of that howard yeah it's like milo's saying you know like this is not it seems unheard of in the gay community but you translate it to the straight community and it sounds straight up criminal yeah and i feel like if you are a gay guy i i feel like every gay guy who's like a liberal and hates milo which is like 89 90 of them is like yeah i did that too but today's not your day milo like like they're not gonna nobody's gonna stand up for milo from his community and be like when i was you know 17 and my boyfriend was 12 you know they're not gonna they're not gonna have a bunch of guys stand up and have that I'm Spartacus moment
Starting point is 00:21:07 where like, I'm a pedophile. I'm a pedophile. I'm a pedophile. That is a hill that no one wants to die on. Yes. No. I really wonder how it'll turn out for him. Obviously, I feel like Milo's in the news more today
Starting point is 00:21:24 than he's ever been, ever. Sure sure yeah um but it's not good press so is all news good news or all publicity good publicity i mean to say no we will see how it plays out for him it is i think because his like most staunch supporters are all people who are not that's too generalizing but a lot of them are in like the whole every single bit of media that's not that's not independent online whatever is totally biased and so to them a lot of them they're just going to see this as full circle of ah they they condemned him because of what he's doing and they went on a witch hunt and so that proves that he's right which is explains why they're attacking him you know which is why they had to go on this witch hunt which explains why they're afraid of what he's saying and like that whole cyclical thing so maybe it doesn't like make his base bigger but it seems
Starting point is 00:22:13 like it's definitely throwing some red meat to those really devout people like not intentionally but it seems like it'll rally them up just like anyone who's a big fan of someone if that person gets attacked like wait god damn look at any time a celebrity says something no not even mean to beyonce just doesn't prostrate themselves on the ground as beyonce walks past saying oh oh my lady you know the look at the bay hive on twitter the if someone like doesn't shake her hand long enough when they meet they're like oh who's this bitch like this bitch treating Beyonce like she's not Beyonce? You don't know who the Queen Bey is? Or whatever they're screaming about.
Starting point is 00:22:49 People get very passionate when they have those kind of connections. So I don't know. I don't think he's sunk. But the Breitbart thing definitely looks bad. It looks bad, and it hurts him, especially because it's Breitbart. Breitbart has just been a propaganda website for a while now. Basically, just the far, far right of far, far right. So for them to boot him, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:14 There's so much stuff to do with it. Yeah, I think he's going to be fine at the end of the day, though. I want to talk about UFC 209. It's a huge card. You've got Alistair Overeem and Mark Hunt fighting. I like to watch Mark Hunt fight because I like to watch the guys who don't look like they belong in their fight. I think everyone who's not a professional athlete, like perfect specimen, when you see someone go in there who looks like he could be a mechanic
Starting point is 00:23:39 or just selling t-shirts on a Hawaiian beach, that's Mark Hunt. And so that's going to be interesting. You've also got the Habib beach. That's Mark Hunt. That's going to be interesting. You've also got the Habib fight. He's fighting Ferguson. That's going to be huge. I hope that happens. That's the one to me. We're going to pretend like it's going to happen. Schedule and everything, Taylor, and for everyone else's benefit.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Shit happens. March 4th. That's the thing about MMA. Some guy can miss weights. We've gotten all the way up to, like, guy bumps his head on the bathtub as he's cutting weight. It's like the day before weigh-ins. And he hit his head because he slipped.
Starting point is 00:24:17 That's shitty. And then, of course, you have the rematch from last year, from a fight. The promos try to call it the fight of the year but it was a fight of the fight of the year contender i guess between uh woodley and thompson wonderboy thompson so that's going to be really fucking good that's for the that's for the belt too because thompson is the uh the champ right is it just me i so if i was judged for that fight i had woodley winning and then if people don't know, on the three cards, Woodley won and there were two draws.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And it turns out that's – I never even saw a majority draw until that fight. If you have one win and two ties, I thought that'd be a win. But it's actually – Majority draw. Yeah. Since both judges felt like it was a tie, you just sort of throw out the one where he won. But in my eyes, he won.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I thought if I was a judge, I'd have had him winning. You thought Woodley won? Just as Woody the judge, right? Sometimes I get it right, sometimes I get it wrong. I want to be sure which one you thought won. Right, Woodley, the big, strong black guy. I thought he won. Also, I feel like Woodley has the tools to beat him
Starting point is 00:25:22 and just for some reason didn't. He stopped doing takedowns. Woodley did the tools to beat him. And just for some reason didn't. Like he stopped doing takedowns. And Woodley did more damage in my head. You know, he had Wonder Boy like flash knocked out. Knockout doesn't win the fight. But still he knocked him out. You know, I thought. And I just see this one.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Woodley being like, all right, motherfucker. You're a slow learner. This time I lay it down. And I hate Woodley. But I think Woodley being like, all right, motherfucker, you're a slow learner. This time I lay it down. And I hate Woodley, but I think Woodley smashes him. I'm looking forward to it. I think Woodley wins too. I just think he's the stronger guy, and that's what usually wins. The stronger guy wins every single fight unless the weaker guy does something special.
Starting point is 00:26:03 You've got to come up with some way to get around that big, strong guy. I hear you. I feel like isn't reach the new thing? Like Anderson Silva had a bigger reach than everyone he fought. It's how you use your toolbox, not what's in it. Conor McGregor has a longer reach than everyone he fights. I watched an old fight last night. It was Tim Silva versus this guy with kicks,
Starting point is 00:26:23 this 6'3 monster who had these crazy kicks. And Tim Silva was like, I'm going to fucking grab you, put you against that cage. I'm going to fucking tire you for two rounds and drag you into the mud. And then when round three came around, Silva was not an athlete per se. He was just a giant. And his boxing, I've never seen a man that big box and at first it looks awful and awkward and terrible but what you got to think is like there's no need for him to wind up there's no need for his punches to come from back here
Starting point is 00:26:57 his punches can start right here because there's plenty of elbow to extend and he's boxing with his arms already extended because they're so god he's just and he fucked that guy up that was fun to watch i enjoyed watching and then i think the main event for that for that night this is like an eight-year-old fight was uh anderson silva fighting um rich was it rich franklin chris lieben or rich franklin maybe i think a white guy um a white guy yeah it's some ch, that's both of them. Maybe it's Rich. Was he really good looking?
Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah, Rich Franklin. Yeah, then it'd be probably Rich Franklin. Yeah, I think it was him. Chris Lieben, rarely called very good looking. Rich took a real beating that night. I think it was the rematch of a fight between them. Yeah, it was. He was defending his title for the second time against Rich Franklin, I guess.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And that was wonderful to watch. After watching that, like they need to get anderson on trt let's just do it let's just get him on did they is he currently well so here's he should be is what i'm saying he's 40 something like let's let's get him back into like so pump him full of chemicals he needs it like five six years ago anderson silva was on mtv cribs and he took him for a tour of his house and when they showed him like the kitchen pantry he had all these boxes of syringes and shit and everyone is like what the fuck is with your syringes now there's no diabetics in his family or in his house right and you know are there any diabetics in your house kyle no no no you have syringes laying around i don't think there's a single syringe in my home i don't know
Starting point is 00:28:33 where i would where where i go to purchase a syringe i've never bought i don't have any syringes laying around like we we don't inject people or whatever um turkey baster you can get strong quick you know one dose of that we got turkey in there but um yeah so anyway he had all these syringes and people thought like what the fuck is he taking what's up with that and then about like four years later, he got busted for whatever performance enhancing drug he was busted for. And the theory is that he was on something throughout that whole title reign. Sure. I'm okay with that. I don't care anymore.
Starting point is 00:29:15 That was a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks that he did it. I wish he hadn't done it then. But what I'm talking about is what we have now, what we have to work with today. And that's a 40 something year old Anderson Silva. Who's got a bit of a dad bod thing going on.
Starting point is 00:29:29 He always did, but yeah. And that fight last night, his back was just – I had the benefit of watching him fight like two or three weeks ago and then watching him fight last night from eight years ago. Man, he looked so much more muscular and cut and defined and much less fat. I'd love to see... They should stick him on TRT if he needs it, if he qualifies for it,
Starting point is 00:29:53 and speed those hands up a little bit. You're looking for Bellator. That's the TRT lead. No, but I want Silva on it. Silva's the only one because I feel like he's got... He's gotten smart. I want Rogan, too. I won't watch Bellator fights just because Rogan's not there.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I don't like the Bellator fights. I really appreciate Rogan being there. It's a big deal for me. Even the announcer. The announcers aren't as good. The refs. I like knowing the refs. I know most of them now, it seems like.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I really prefer the ufc i like the dana white dynamic everything about it's a different kind of show for me then if there's just a really specific match if i want to see like i went and watched cyborgs fights over on right maybe something like that and i was watching it like this feels like low budget pro wrestling a little bit this feels feels like WWE with half the budget. And even the belt looks kind of shitty. I don't know. I just wasn't into it as much.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I need to feel like we're here seeing a thing. What's his name, the announcer for the UFC? Bruce Buffer. Yeah. When he comes out, God, he's so good. You know he's got a torn ACL in his knee or whatever that's been torn forever? Bruce Buffer does? You know he's got a torn ACL in his knee or whatever that's been torn forever?
Starting point is 00:31:04 Bruce Buffer does? Yeah, he tore it in the ring doing like a 360 announcement. He's like, and now it's time. And in the middle of it, he jumps and does a 360 and lands with a wide stance. He's like, time! And he tore his fucking ACL and didn't flinch or anything. Was it like one of those Aragorn scenes, like in Lord of the Rings, where Aragorn, when he kicks an Uruk-hai helmet in one of the scenes? Because in Lord of the Rings, it wasn't the Hobbit.
Starting point is 00:31:34 They still had fucking armors makers, blacksmiths making armor. So it was a real heavy Uruk-hai helmet. And they told him to kick it. You have to go to a workshop. And Aragorn Viggo Mortensen kicked it and he broke at least one toe, maybe a couple and he just screamed because of that and that's the one they used.
Starting point is 00:31:52 They used that one. He finds the hobbit's belts. Because you don't... You have to finish that scene. I bet as a professional actor, as soon as his toe hit and broke, he had that snap understanding of if I don't get it right this time,
Starting point is 00:32:08 I will have to kick it again and I will have to kick it with my left foot. And Aragorn will look like a six-year-old girl kicking an Uruk-hai helmet, frustrated that he can't find his little friends in the forest. And so I gotta sell it here. Or kick it with his broken foot, which maybe sucks more.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, it's just, God, Aragorn's foot, which maybe sucks more. Yeah, it's just the cut. Eric went kind of, he barely kicked that thing. Yeah, right, right. Like, shit. I got a planter fast shot. Dude, have you ever seen Bruce Buffard, like, interviewed and stuff, like, outside the UFC? He is the biggest douchebag to have ever douchebagged. He is.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh, my God. He is so arrogant. He is so full of himself he thinks that what he's doing and look i get it he does it well and he does it maybe better than anyone but his brother right his brother's the best right uh i don't know uh michael buffer um but uh he you you just have to experience how full of himself he is. I think even if you had a tolerance for arrogant people, he would just burst that fucking tolerance wide open. I want to see his abs. Oh, his abs are great.
Starting point is 00:33:17 People don't know he had a liposuction where they sucked up around the fat to give him abs. So now he has fat abs. I heard it was implants. I thought that's what... Like the little Ziploc bags full of silicone or something, whatever in there. I heard that he got actual abs. Oh, then you don't...
Starting point is 00:33:38 We were told by a source once, I believe, that he got implants in there. And apparently he shows up to like these ufc events and like any kind of an after party or like you know every time there's a ufc event i don't mean that it's a fight it's just a ufc related event it might be like a you know a charity auction or some shit um he's always got like whores with him like actual escorts like with big tits and like like bimbos like like they're going for like the bimbo look like that's what he's into like like like huge fake titted
Starting point is 00:34:11 like trashy women on each arm huge fake abs and that big voice and he's walking in you know he makes like no bones about it like yes i am getting laid tonight oh yeah obviously i paid for whores this is my night you should all know i hooked this up for me and it just i think a lot of other people might hide it we need to talk about this photo that you linked because he's wearing pants and tennis shoes by the pool, which is odd. Also, you know that scar people get if they had appendicitis in 1986? Yeah, right down the middle. It looks like he was born with some horrible dysfunction where he had seven appendixes,
Starting point is 00:35:02 and they all just went off at the same time. And they had to get it. It's like, fuck it. We don't care about scarring. Save this guy's life. There's an announcer. We've got a quadruple appendectomy in room three. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And then like Dana White goes in with like a recording thing. It's like, just real quick, just say, it's time. No, no, we can do the rest in post really don't need you anymore 2017 what a year that's a good photo of him there i think he looks good in that photo quite frankly especially for the man's age um and and those ladies look real nice it's like he's having a good old time this is what happens people say all plastic surgery is stupid obviously that looks fake to me that looks fake to me from a mile away. But what you need to compare it to is the hypothetical pre like non-surgery thing.
Starting point is 00:35:50 If he had just had, instead of a six pack, a keg, you know, there, then I don't know that he'd look better. He'd look normal, but not better.
Starting point is 00:35:59 He might. Cause like, I don't know. Like that is one of those where it's so obvious that it's fake, that it's fake that it's distracting like if he actually was like a big muscly workout guy like he'd have some pecs there like that matched the level of intensity that unless he only does ab day now he does have his arms wide right like no they're by his side he has no excuse for yeah i look he doesn't look
Starting point is 00:36:22 symmetrical what we're talking about here is like a 60 something year old man though right like i think he looks like yeah right he's how old is bruce buffett let's see how old is for 60 he looks good but also a career of briefly talking we'll do that he's uh 59 yeah yeah 59 he's pretty damn good for some bad plastic surgeries might look better than father time you know especially in life i think donald trump's hair looks bad i think donald trump's hair looks bad but donald trump might look better than he would with the male pattern baldness thing going on. Or bald? Like a monk? Totally bald. Maybe he pulls that off in some sort of Kojak fashion.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I don't know. Fuck Dr. Evil? I mean, then he really is filling that role of Lex Luthor then, right? Like if he's the bald billionaire who became president. But that wacky one-of-a-kind thing he has going on now might beat male pattern baldness especially If it's the sort where like it's bald, but they've got the one little survivor up front You're totally right that it's it's better I think it's objectively better than the old man like liver spots because he's definitely hiding a couple of
Starting point is 00:37:41 developing at least liver spots under that Thin thin hair like because that that is that is his hair oh he's 70 like he's getting old like it definitely is gonna look he'd rather have like wispy hair like he has than gorbachev head like how distracting must that have been when you're trying to negotiate we'd be like and so do we have deal it's like i'm so sorry can you repeat everything like i have no idea you ever ever see that Naked Gun movie? You ever see the Naked Gun movie where Leslie Nielsen in the opening scene,
Starting point is 00:38:09 it's like Gaddafi and Gorbachev and all the Axis of Evil from the 80s or whatever, and all of a sudden fucking Frank Drevin tears off his mask and starts beating the shit out of all of them. He gets Gorbachev in a headlock and he goes, I always wanted to do this. And fucking wipes the birthmark off.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I knew it. Saddam's over there. He decks Saddam. That's great. I like Leslie Nielsen. I love the airplane movies. They're just enjoyably silly. I like all that shit. I like all of his goofy movies.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But yeah, this UFC card is going to be really good. I hope it happens. I hope we get all of those fights. The one I want to see the most is the Habib's fight. Habib Namagorov. Namagorov. Whatever his last name is. Namagorov?
Starting point is 00:38:56 I don't know. Namagorov. None of us got even close, by the way. I want to see that fight. Rashad Evans. It would be interesting to see him come back. There's a name I can pronounce. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:10 A lot of vowels. Nice and easy. Dude, the Duffy from the prelims, the last fight in the prelims, that guy knocked everyone out his first couple fights. Real interesting. I think he took a time off and he's coming back. Duffy. Yeah, I'm looking at this guy now. Oh, what a scary motherfucker. I think he took a time off and he's coming back. Duffy.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah, I'm looking at this guy now. Oh, what a scary motherfucker. I guess they all are, right? Yeah. But every now and then you click a guy's picture and you're like, oh. I think he kills people for a living. Especially, like, I think he's a heavyweight, right? Yeah, he's a big motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:39:40 This guy, like, you just have to, a lot of heavyweights, you know, they're not cutting stuff. This guy had, like, cuts to make 265. I made that up, but I think it might be true. 63, 260. He's just, he's very bad looking. Like, he looks like he kills people for a living. He's fun to watch. Yeah, really, really scary face.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah, I definitely want to see that, but it's definitely Ferguson and Habib that I'm interested in I like the guys that I like that weight class or anything around that weight class I feel like when they get a certain size start slowing down and their techniques don't look as crisp and clean and it feels more like a brawl which is what you get with the heavyweights most of the time
Starting point is 00:40:20 I can't think of any heavyweights that I've ever thought wow look at that guy operate like he's just when I see Connor out there like i saw a gif today on reddit of him uh it was something about connor maintaining the correct distance with someone he was fighting and he so quickly like as the guy charged in and threw a combo it was and he like connor was backwards out of the way just out of reach and immediately back in with a combo of his own, and pop, pop, pop, hit the guy. And it's like, yeah, you don't see that out of the heavyweights.
Starting point is 00:40:49 They might be the only one that feels like, oh, Conor, yeah. I remember that guy. He was good. Conor used to fight all the time. When was his last fight? I guess Alvarez? That wasn't that long ago. It was before the election though right
Starting point is 00:41:05 yeah um yeah connor's got to be careful here i feel like because because why we're about to this fight's coming up right between habib and uh ferguson and and those are the number one and number two contenders in connor's weight class in the division in which he still holds the belt one of these guys is going to get on that mic after this fight and call him the fuck out he's going to be like all right now it's time i beat this get on that mic after this fight and call him the fuck out. He's going to be like, all right, now it's time. I beat this guy, beat that guy, beat this guy, beat that guy. There's nobody left. It's just you over there.
Starting point is 00:41:31 So you can hide and say you're going to box all you want. But over here where the real fighters are, we're calling you a pussy. Or we're saying you're running. Because we're in here fighting and you're out there doing some babysitting. Or, you know, on some free paternity leave, right? Who ever heard of such a thing? Like, hey, I on some free paternity leave. Right? Who ever heard of such a thing? Like, hey, I'm okay with paternity leave, I guess.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Like, sure. Everybody seems to be okay with that. But pre-paternity leave? Here's what I want to happen. I want Khabib Nurmagomedov to beat the fuck out of Ferguson. I would like that. And then hand the mic to Chael Sonnen
Starting point is 00:42:02 to do his trash talking for him. Right? And then Chael just come on there like, this is Khabib. He's the man with the arms, the man with the charm, the man in this. The ladies swarm and the bad guys mourn. I didn't climb down from the mountains of Dagestan to whip some Puerto Rican tonight. I came for the Irish punk they call Conor McGregor. He used to get out there with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Dude, he would get out there, and that would be so great. Oh, man. I don't like that in sports as much. I wouldn't like that as much because I like in sports interviews and bickering between players in English who don't speak English well at all. There's nothing I love more than seeing a post-game interview and being like, oh, good, a Russian got first star of the game and this guy played in the KHL last year,
Starting point is 00:42:56 so this will be a doozy. Trying to understand what he's saying. As he turns to his trainer from Cleveland, being like, you give me him here? No, I don't know Russian either, dude. Fucking Cincinnati. But yeah, I as he like turns to his trainer from Cleveland being like, you give me him here? Like, no, I don't know Russian either, dude. Fucking Cincinnati. But yeah, I like shit like that. And then I'll like the Japanese baseball players.
Starting point is 00:43:11 There's some great Japanese baseball player interviews that are hysterical. But yeah, we were talking about. 209 is going to be fun. Kyle, I will ask you this. You're looking at the card, right? Do you have it in front of you? Yeah, I have it in front of me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:24 You're following MMA a lot. i you're following mma a lot surely you're familiar with this concept of the mma gods you have to sacrifice something to get the fight you want um well the most important one for me is the ferguson habib fight and then after that i want to see woodley thompson and then after that it's on Overeem. The bigger the sacrifice the more likely you get what you want. Would you sacrifice Overeem? I would. Oh, I'd sacrifice Thompson
Starting point is 00:43:53 and Woodley to get the Habib fight. The Habib fight's the... There's a one fight card to you it seems. Well, there are three fights that I want to see but the habib fight is the is the main card for me it's the it's it's the whole show um because a lot is you know it's the connor thing how that plays into this and it's also habib's undefeated he's thought of right now
Starting point is 00:44:17 as some sort of god you know his fans the ones who are on the the on joe rogan's instagram you know blowing him up like he's the one who makes the fights or something like his fans think he's god his fans think that like he's a he's the new hottest thing that that is not getting the respect he's owed um you know so we'll see i can't think of another champion who's based on grappling i mean it seems to me that all the very top guys kind of punch while walking backwards like that's what connor does that's what silva does i guess that's not what bisping punches while walking forwards um jose punches while walking forwards but i still was a real counter puncher he's almost in his own thing like i love that i think that's why i like
Starting point is 00:45:03 watching him is is it well he, like, that first round, and Joe baby walks every fan through this. He spends that first round measuring the guy and testing the guy with feints and stuff like that. He'll fake a feint, and then he'll watch. What do you do when I do that? Oh, you do that. Logged.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And then we dance a little more. What do you do when I do fake, fake, real punch? Oh, you do that. Logged. And then round three comes around, and he does that thing again, but he knows what you're going to do. He already knows what you're going to do, and he has a plan for that. And the blow is coming as you move into it.
Starting point is 00:45:40 It's really fun to watch that guy. You're right, though. It seems like there aren't many guys that have a a similar background to habib but he's just it seems really tough gsp you can't strike but i don't know much about that that martial art but seems like he can strike he certainly knows how it's just i don't know taylor matchup is st louis is going they i mean they're trending towards making the playoffs, even as a top whatever sixth seed. I guess they're going to be somewhere between three and sixth as a seed, right?
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah, they'll probably be. I'm hoping that, well, we're not going to get first in the division. Minnesota's running away with that. And Chicago will get either second or third. And I would rather. Oh, that game's about to start blackhawks are playing uh the wild tonight yeah i'm gonna watch that a little bit closer yep uh i don't think chicago minnesota is just real fucking good this year their goalie is unstoppable right now devin dubnik i don't know where the hell he's from looks like some some scandinavian place but he's playing great.
Starting point is 00:46:46 The Blues, I hope that we make it as the first wildcard seed, because it would be nice to fucking finally play a team that's not from our own division in the first round. It seems like it's been years where every time I'd be like, oh, who are we playing? Is it Minnesota or is it Chicago? It's Chicago.
Starting point is 00:47:02 It's Minnesota. Oh, it's Chicago again. Oh, it's Chicago again. Oh, it's Chicago again. Oh, it's Chicago again. Oh, Minnesota. Like it's like, I'd like to see someone else, but yeah, I'm glad that we lost the last two because we were on a six game winning streak and RGM was, has a history of being stupid and being like, instead of being like, yeah, we need to sell and make sure we have a real good team next year to make a better run. He'll being like, instead of being like, yeah, we need to sell and make sure we have a real good team next year to make a better run. He'll be like, no, we can do it. We can pull this
Starting point is 00:47:30 out. We're not selling anybody. We're not trading anybody. We're going to acquire new players. We're going to make a rental trade. And then we go in and we lose in the first round. He's like, oh, I guess we weren't as good as I thought we were. And so if we had won eight in a row before this bye week, where the Blues don't play at all,
Starting point is 00:47:45 and this is the only week left in the trade deadline, I bet he would have thought, oh, yeah, I'm not trading Shattenkirk. He's great on D. You're going into the bye? Eight and O. Yeah, we're going into the bye week, eight and O. We're doing great.
Starting point is 00:47:56 But because we lost those last two, I'm hoping that was enough for him to be like, okay, we had a nice little streak. We got to trade chad and kirk before we lose them for nothing or the entire city of st louis is going to kill me because it is getting out of control how many people we just let show up in st louis and then be like all right we're leaving do you want to trade us for something no no take care take care i dude you keep wanting to do better next year but if you were a canes flyers fan you might just be like
Starting point is 00:48:25 make the playoffs get us a fucking rental that will help us get the eighth seed so we get to play in a championship for lord stanley's cup wouldn't it be nice to be playing you know like over time you're like put into different like subsections of fandom because i the the reddit that i spend the most time on far and away not even close is the hockey one and like uh a penguins fan if they go on like a two game losing streak and you go over to their subreddit or a three game losing streak they won the stanley cup last year they're very good they'll be like oh god like these players are playing like shit like we're just not the same team we were last year anymore you know it's not like we have fucking sydney crosby and Evgeny Malkin playing for us still. We're struggling.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Whereas Buffalo, who has been so bad for so long, or Edmonton. Edmonton's a better example. They've made the playoffs in a decade. This year, when they're not even superstar going to win the Cup favorites at all, they're just going to make it.
Starting point is 00:49:23 You mentioned Sidney Crosby, and he sucks. Carry on. Fine. Buffalo, Edmonton, those fans have been put in the gutter for so long that, like you're saying, just the very prospect of, hey, you might make the playoffs this year. You might lose in four games. You might get swept and humiliated.
Starting point is 00:49:42 No, it's fine. It's fine. There will be two home games here for me to watch us lose, right? That's all they want. But the Blues have been middling for so long that making the playoffs isn't good enough anymore. Because we've made the playoffs by percentage more than any other professional sports franchise of all the four major sports.
Starting point is 00:49:58 They make it all the fucking time. But we never make it to that next level. If we made it to the Stanley Cup and lost in the Stanley Cup, people people would be disappointed but that's so much further than we've made it in so long people would still be like oh fuck yeah that that was a really good season just like last year people overall were like yeah we lost in the final conference finals but there's a good season we haven't made it that far in 20 years or whatever 15 years so yeah i really hope that you trade off all your best players so that you could be better in the future, and now you're worse.
Starting point is 00:50:26 You want to trade off another one so that you can be better in the future, but you'll get even worse. Well, no, no, this isn't a guy to trade off. Like, the thing with him is he's one of the best, he's the most valuable creator this year. Kevin Shattenkirk, our defenseman, one of our defensemen.
Starting point is 00:50:41 We have three incredibly good right-handed defensemen. Most teams don't have that luxury. We don't have a ton of left-handed defensemen that are that good, but all three of our best are right-handed. And that guy, Shattenkirk, who's really high value right now, his contract's up after this year anyway. And we don't have enough to sign him because he's on like a $5 million contract, $4 million contract right now, and he's going to demand like seven, and we can't afford him.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And so it's either we trade him now and get something, or we go to the playoffs, we won't win the Stanley Cup, and then he leaves in the offseason for free. And so it's basically like, you know, we got to trade him while, you know, strike while the iron's hot. So it's not like we're trading a really good guy with seven years left on his contract, like Tarasenko. But, yeah, I'm – oh, high hopes. That's what i check like every 15 minutes all day it seems like on my
Starting point is 00:51:29 phone like any trades no okay any trades no still no huh you fuck god damn it like and then like the flyers would you trade jerro jerro um no no I don't think so. I think he's only like 29 years old, which is starting to get up there for hockey. He'll be 33 when the team is good. Yeah, but he's still producing so well. Like, if he had a big drop-off, that's true by his standards, but it's only a bad year for Drew because the past five years, he's been like top probably top
Starting point is 00:52:06 five best players in the NHL like Giroux's consistently good each and every year I really like Giroux so I don't know I like him on the flyers so I don't want to see him traded but I don't know he's he's like one of those leaders that when you see him get traded you know they have to feel bad because like eight years ago or whatever, they're like, all right, Drew, you're the guy. We're putting in charge of this Flyers franchise. Make us proud. And then if like nine years later they're like, all right, well, how's Winnipeg sound, Claude?
Starting point is 00:52:34 Like he's going to be like, God damn it, I failed. Like I was the pilot that they put in charge, and I couldn't make it count. It's a team sport. It is. Oh, yeah, for a team sport it is oh yeah for sure and it sucks god he has to be so livid every day being like this is such horseshit that we have to play the penguins so often and right when i get on the team the dude the penguins not a big deal it's not even
Starting point is 00:52:59 an argument they're so much better than the flyers it's not close like the only like little things that like the flyers fans will post is like we've beaten the Penguins the last five times at home five in a row fucking Penguins and then the Penguins will be like you realize we won the Stanley Cup last year and like we win all those other games like all the other ones in the other 29 cities in North America we win most of them like I don't know I like the Flyers because they're out east and they're easy to like because the Blues don't play them that much. The Blues are the reason the Broad Street Bullies came into being. If you didn't know that, that's a little hockey history.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Did you know that, Woody? I'm looking up the all-time Flyers versus Penguins series. So basically the way the Broad Street Bullies came into being. So the Broad Street Bullies, Kyle, if you don't know this, it was a team of flyers where they decided, like, we're not that great at hockey, but we will beat you to death
Starting point is 00:53:54 on this ice. You will be afraid to play against the flyers. To the point that they did an exhibition game against Team Soviet Union. And the Soviet Union just fucking left after the second period because they're like this is not hockey they just come out they swing the heck they punch
Starting point is 00:54:10 they bite they don't even play the game the Soviet Union came out and they beat every NHL team they played the Flyers last and it was just like well fuck we thought we were good at hockey turns out the Soviet team better than everybody.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And then they met the Flyers, and the Flyers beat the fuck out of them, both with their hands and in the scoring. On the scoreboard, because the Russian team was just like, put our players out there, everybody else go to the locker room. We're not going to ruin all our best players for this exhibition. That's not even true. Their best players were out there. They were just cowering in fear.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I'll have to rewatch some clips because I feel like in that locker room before that match, the Philly coach had to be like, how many of us think we can win if we go out there and play the kind of hockey I know we're all capable of? And they were like, yeah!
Starting point is 00:55:02 And he's like, wrong! Wrong! No chance. Let me repeat to you, Captain. No chance. You are going to beat Team Soviet Union out there if we play hockey. We are going to box them.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I have a brass knuckle. You will put us under your gloves. Pass out those rolls of quarters. Yeah, everybody take a roll of quarters. Taylor's not really giving the Flyers credit. I think they might have been defending Stanley Cup champs at this point. I mean they were very good They were good Or I don't remember what year that happened
Starting point is 00:55:32 So that was when they were more established at the Broad Street boys But the reason that they came into being the Broad Street boys is because of the st. Louis Blues. Did you know that? I think we're all this before Blues were a team where they just weren't good enough to win real hockey And so they just beat the shit out of teams and eventually the flyers like this sucks we should be the team that beats people up they're like that's just like a lot of fun st louis seems to be enjoying it a good bit we're gonna be that team now and so they did and they were that team they were the greatest thing the trouble is they're not anymore and as
Starting point is 00:56:03 a flyers fan you could for like, you could hang your hat on the idea that even if you didn't win the game, you could have beat the other team up. That was a truth. And even into the 90s and stuff, usually oftentimes the toughest guy in the NHL. I thought Donald Brashear took a turn as a heavyweight champ, in my opinion. And he's playing for the Flyers and they always had a guy and our our good players like uh Wayne Primo or Keith Primo and uh Eric Lindros and stuff like they're not just good at hockey they also can beat up 95%
Starting point is 00:56:37 of the league right they're yeah they're they're stars that can hang with tough guys and and that was always like a Flyers thing. People didn't want to come to Philadelphia. That was not a good night. Even if you won the game, lousy night. And now the Flyers are just a regular team. Yeah, I mean, definitely, like, if you look through history, I'm not as versed on it as you because I didn't follow them,
Starting point is 00:57:02 but the Broad Street Bullies is the coolest era for them. But it's almost like if they tried to go back to that right now, they would only guarantee that they'd continue to be the worst team in the league. Because now, with technology being so good, with skates and sticks and just the ways trainers know how to get you to a science almost, be as fast as possible, you can't just put an oaf out there anymore. You can't just fucking catch oaf out there anymore like they
Starting point is 00:57:25 catch the guy they're trying to get in a fight with the guy they're trying to fight with might pick up the puck skate over and make a nice pass go to the slot pick up another pass do whatever they're doing and then just skate to the bench for a shift the other guy will be like damn it he's quick like it was this tough guy his name is bobby clark not big but tough as hell. And he used to have to soak his body in something that gave him awful, terrible, God like just unseen bad breath. Right? Whatever it is he soaked himself in had
Starting point is 00:57:54 like halitosis times 10 as a side effect. And he loved it. He would just bad breath people like against the boards and shit. Like all this stuff. Like that shit like i love that that's so fucking philly and here's a picture of this tremendous athlete that's all that was you're about like athletes who don't look like they should be athletes.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I'm going to link you. Now Stanley Cup champion and NHL all-star, multiple-time NHL all-star Phil Kessel, who looks like he won a radio sweepstakes to get into the locker room. Yeah, he does. If you watch him play, it is astounding. He plays with – so flex is something on a stick where with composite sticks if it's a really high number it means it's hard to flex so
Starting point is 00:58:51 you're going to get more power on a slap shot if it's really low number like a 70 or something it's going to be like a noodle or something so if these guys try and take a slap shot it'll just break so it's like really quick bend and flip wrist shots this fat guy let's be honest now he's really muscular too because he's in the nhl but he's a he's a heavy guy looks like the husband who's married to an unusually hot chick in a sitcom he does he looks like after uh before his stint with the toronto maple leafs he was in uh king of queens popular driving aps truck yeah but he uses the lowest flex stick of any player in the nhL to the point that they'll, like, do little things where it's like, oh, other NHLers try and use Phil Kessel's stick
Starting point is 00:59:29 and they try and shoot it and they just break it. But you watch this guy shoot it, and he's got it down to, like, a fat guy's science of, like, he puts, like, the perfect amount of flex on the stick and then in, like, a tenth of a half of a second, just snaps it forward like it's some sort of, you know, trap or, like, you snip a cord on a second just just just snaps it forward like it's a some sort of you know trap or like a snip a cord on a bridge and it just whips forward when i like he's it sounds like his shots might not have the speed but he's getting them off quicker
Starting point is 00:59:54 uh he didn't no no they're pretty quick fast he's yeah he's a good goal scorer when and he's an american when i played beer league hockey it was funny because I played with a really flexible stick because I'm a normal person, right? But then like some of my teammates or even better people I played against, they'd be like, yeah, this is the same flex that like, I don't know, Eric Lindros uses or something. He probably played with a wooden stick. And it's just like, yeah, but you're not him. You're not him. You're not him. You're not a professional athlete. You don't spend your days in the gym.
Starting point is 01:00:28 You spend your days at a keyboard. And all you have is what is effectively a steel pipe there that you don't flex at all, and your shot sucks. I'll use my women's league stick and get good snapshots off. Yeah. It's not worth watching for on for for the most part but this is just beer league people trying to use the dino chara stick oh absolutely chara he's the guy who's 610 and his flex like they make a special stick for him because his hands are too big for the normal
Starting point is 01:00:57 girth of a stick so they have to make an especially big stick which means that his flex is a number that like if a normal sized person got the flex number of his it'd be like playing with rebar basically like people try to like even bend his stick it's it's impossible that guy he's on the stick is eight feet tall it's seven no joke it's enormous it's an enormous stick because he's like seven feet tall probably seven foot one in his skates or something at least seven feet yeah yeah i've seen this video before i see them try to bend it and and they can't play with it very well either they look really awkward no yeah i look so silly in this guy's hands he's got some reach though like if that were if that ever becomes part of the game two minutes guy tries to sit on it to flex it and stuff it's funny oh i see what the
Starting point is 01:01:43 reach reach does matter that was you know that's a decision you have to make yeah if you're not with that stick woody and you're playing d are you gonna do are you gonna ever make a pass that game are you gonna skate backwards and go right like you're a helicopter blade i played defense a lot and then i i always thought like an easy position yeah i do well one i like the responsibility i liked having you know like something important on my shoulders and uh i thought i did pretty well at it the stakes were all not stakes but the okay look when you're on offense there's a lot of shit that you need to do right for it to work out for you if i'm on defense
Starting point is 01:02:22 anything but that is a win. You know, like I could just swap my stick, fuck you up a little bit. And there it is. Your whole thing is blown. Like all I needed to do was knock it towards the boards. And now, you know, whatever opportunity you had has been all closed up and it's a mess.
Starting point is 01:02:39 If I can just hit an out, if I can take it from you and hit an outlet pass, I'm a star. And that just seems so much easier than then the offense is a precision that you need to like get in there while like juggling that puck right and do something with it yeah it makes a lot of sense it seems like the guy who scores is a real that that seems so hard especially because if you were if you were the only guy on the ice who knew how to ice skate it'd be one thing right but like yeah i'm a good skater and nobody else is of course just skate around but everybody out there is a really fucking good skater so like i know that wayne wayne gretzky
Starting point is 01:03:13 is supposed to have been the i guess he was right he's the the world famous when he's the one that everybody who doesn't even know anything about hockey knows about but he was supposed to be really fast and really agile and and all that stuff um guess, didn't you always say that Gretzky's thing was that he had some big guy to defend him? Like nobody would lay hands on Gretzky. Because he's a smaller guy and they could have taken him off his feet, I suppose. That definitely helped. Some of the best players. It's like they see the play unfold first and just always make the right decisions and
Starting point is 01:03:46 i think i told you guys maybe it was recently lemieux came back and they were like his patience is amazing oh my gosh he's so patient you'd see players like fly by as he just waited there so i tried that it didn't last a period it's like oh when i slow down they just fucking strip the puck from me what is his magic take it away yeah i mean i am willing to wait here for 10 minutes i can be more patient than any other player's ever been but uh somehow that doesn't work out not at all yeah and uh i bet you'd see the same thing in like fighting because like like with like there are a lot of fighters like oh look look at him he's not aggressing he's sitting back and waiting and he's he's calculating and i can just imagine being a fighter and being like oh yeah that's what i'll do next time i'll sit back and be patient
Starting point is 01:04:28 why isn't it working the spider does it grisky that's like what you're saying like gretzky and lemieux it's like you're totally right like to what you were saying i didn't play forward as much but like you'd see them out there and just you know gretzky just would hang out behind the net with the puck behind the end the opponent's net and they so they'd come around and try and get it and he'd be like oh nope nope good try though did you see my number i'm number 99 i'm wayne gretzky like speaking it around and i always like you watch those clips you're like man why didn't somebody else decide to just hold on to the puck behind the net for 30 seconds at a time and then every other player also in the nhl tries to do that and in you know eight seconds at most the puck's still and you're like oh that's why because they're not they're not wayne gretzky
Starting point is 01:05:14 or mario lemieux that's a that's a big benefit like they're so like they're i would say gretzky and lemieux are bigger as hockey legends than Jordan is as a basketball legend. Never heard of him. No, I'm saying by like records and never being catchable. Because it seems like people are going to be able to catch Michael Jordan, right? Like I don't know enough about basketball. Correct me in the comments or whatever. But I feel like they talk about it like who really is the best.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Is it LeBron? Is it Michael Jordan? Like people have real conversations like that. No one has ever in like all seriousness been like you know sydney crosby is better than wayne gretzky like at the very least you can say like well if he played in gretzky's era maybe he could have put up similar points probably not totally similar but you know maybe like i don't know it just seems like he dominates that sport thing so much like who's the best you wish you could make that happen i hope that's the future i hope we get to
Starting point is 01:06:10 a future where they're like who would win you know would babe ruth be a good ball player today i don't know we cooked one up though he'll be he'll be 30 in a in a couple years now we'll see see how many dingers he can hit this time around like i hope we get to that point where we start bringing back people who have expired. Because we've got DNA of a lot of old people. I'm sure I always hear about that. Who was it that had a bit of Lincoln's beard hair? Oh, it was Obama. Obama.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I want to say when Obama took his oath of office, he had a tuft of Lincoln's beard hair in there somewhere, like in the Bible or something. There was something about that that I read. Yeah, so we've got this DNA. We could bring back a Lincoln or a Babe Ruth or a Gehrig and maybe fix his disease this time. How many tufts are there? Are they hidden around like horcruxes or are they just one? Exactly like horcruxes.
Starting point is 01:06:59 They're protected. Different continents. There are seven. There are seven. Seven of them. Seven, yes. There are seven. Seven. That's great. Alright. That's probably a show. Yeah, 132. That was cool. Hey, all episode long,
Starting point is 01:07:16 I don't think we ever said the T word. The current president. Didn't happen. You know what we're talking about. My first thought was Tarasenko. that's where my head's at yeah i kind of had a because kyle calls him big t all right pkn 132

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