Painkiller Already - PKN #154

Episode Date: August 4, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The other stuff. PKA 154. We're talking about McCain, John McCain. So I would just say, I watched the John McCain speech, only like two-thirds of it, and he's talking about how the Republicans are doing these like top-down mandates and like nothing's getting done right now. He said the Democrats did that before. Did you jump in real quick? This was today that he did this? Almost positive it's today. It could have been yesterday, but I think it's today. Does Woody sound loud to you? No, it sounds normal to me. I might just be excited. No, it sounds different to me. Like, Taylor's mic sounds fine, but yours sounds...
Starting point is 00:00:34 It may just be on my end. It's weird, though. It's weird that he sounds normal and you don't. Maybe that's part of your two-hour update. Taylor's quiet for a little bit. I don't know. What was I going to say? Oh, and he said that before the Republicans were doing this,
Starting point is 00:00:49 the Democrats did, and that they need to start doing things the old way and working together. Look, maybe I'm just susceptible to the speech because I wish that would happen, but I thought it was pretty well delivered. But then, like I said, it's easy for him to say because he's going to be dead in six months.
Starting point is 00:01:07 He's dying. He's dying. Like, oh, McCain, you think the system's broken and it needs a big change? You just came up with this, huh? What else just happened with you recently? Well, I found out I was about to die. Yeah, okay. We've got to take care of the Krauts.
Starting point is 00:01:24 It isn't lost on me that this is a bit of like captain obvious stuff going on here you know that he's like oh really do you think the system's broken like like like people haven't been saying that since the great depression a hundred years ago and who do you want saying that like one of the longest serving people in the government like that's always funny to me is like not just us but any country will come out there and be like, you know, we've got a lot of problems. And, you know, there are many, many, many reasons, aside
Starting point is 00:01:52 from the fact that I've been in charge for 60 years. There are all sorts of things. That was one of Donald Trump's main things that he'd say. Hillary Clinton would say, I'm going to fix this or that. He's like, you've been in government for 30 years. You should have been on step three by now at least. You're talking about step one.
Starting point is 00:02:10 That's why you need me. And it was like, god damn, he's got a good point. She has been there the whole time, and she's talking about new shit now? This doesn't make sense. That was one of his best moves, I thought. I do agree with that. What time are they yearning for? When is this beautiful era of of when was america great like wait when when were like the
Starting point is 00:02:31 republicans and democrats like really loving it together like i don't know it just seems like they kind of fantasize a bit maybe yeah like is that not really during so i can't really claim i paid much attention to politics before Reagan, right? I was a kid when Reagan was president. Reagan would slam Democrats all the time, right? You know, if it moves, tax it was a Reagan, you know, like anti-Democrat thing. And then there was something else. Oh, and then you go to Clinton, right?
Starting point is 00:03:03 You know, like Reagan, it went to Bush briefly, and then it went to Clinton. That was not a period of bipartisanship with Newt Gingrich leading the whole thing. And then – Wasn't it, though? I thought that they worked together to get a few things done. It's never like – They did, didn't they? It's never a kumbaya.
Starting point is 00:03:19 But I thought the Clinton period seems to be one that's known as a period when there was some reaching across the aisle and some shit got done. And then Reagan too, right? Like didn't he – he had big sweeping changes and stuff that he got done like with – and everything. When you think about it like – You don't hear much about Bush. I don't have a better perspective on it. But like when Reagan did stuff across the aisle, it the aisle, he won by so much and just dominated. Was it really across the aisle
Starting point is 00:03:48 or were those Democrats like, hey, if we don't play ball with President Reagan here, our state voted for him overwhelmingly. We're going to look at him. He won so much this second time. Yeah, he won 49 states. Mondale only carried his
Starting point is 00:04:03 first state. How insane is that? Yeah won 49 states mondale only carried his first state how insane is that yeah 49 states uh that is outrageous um are you watching that when it was happening just like i don't remember it really like i wasn't that i was 84 i was 11 you know oh that wasn't your mo at the time um what was i gonna say oh but when i think of the clinton years i think of newt gingrich like leading that whole uh impeachment thing and uh i don't know it basically newt gingrich was like cheating on his wife fucking all these other women while attacking clinton for the same and it just i don't know it still rubs me the wrong way like you should have got someone else to lead that charge i get annoyed a little bit when i hear any kind of story about like old horribly unattractive fat politicians getting laid all the power i know it's the power if
Starting point is 00:04:59 newt gingrich worked at a fucking waterway cleaning cars nobody would care they'd be like hey can you put me on the cute girl and not that, you know, creep? But, like, I hate, doesn't that bother you a little bit? Is that power or money? I want to see a couple pictures of the girls he was fucking, just so I can be like, oh, she was 44 and also ugly. Is it power or money?
Starting point is 00:05:18 Because I swear, power is not that attractive to me. I don't get the attraction to power. Fuck power. I don't need any power. You're a man. You haven't utilized it. You're thinking power is an abstract thing. But you have to think of the things that power could provide to you.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah, that's my point. What if I had an airstrip and I was like, hey, Woody, this is a military airstrip here. This is Fort Jimmy Jam. It's weekend exercises, so it's all yours. It's all yours and your friends. You can go out there. It's your runway. It's your airport. You want. You can go out there. It's your runway. It's your airport.
Starting point is 00:05:46 You want to go up in air traffic control? That's power, right? You want to meet the colonel? No, I don't want to meet the colonel. Listen, to me, power is just a means to money. That's what power... If I have the power to grant, I don't know, defense contracts or something like that, and that somehow kicks back and makes me rich. Like the Clintons, right?
Starting point is 00:06:07 The Clintons are worth, if I have my numbers right, $115 million. But they don't have any products, right? I don't know how they got that money exactly, right? I don't know what business they own, where all that cash came in. There's no products they're selling, though. So they must be selling kickbacks for defense contracts and ambassadorships and whatever the fuck else you sell with that power. That, to me, power is just one of the ways in which people accumulate wealth. Wealth is attractive to me.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I get wealth. I get how that's fun to have. Power is Chris Christie on that beach. You know what I mean? Like, that's power. I feel like it's it's so there's money But I just don't think that they can really take bribes from defense contractors They can take lobbyist dollars that'll keep them in power
Starting point is 00:06:53 But but it seems like if they were vast quantities of hard cash going into senators pockets Like we get to the bottom of that shit It's so it the fact that our system is so Partisan and it both sides hate each other kind of prevent that kind of thing like really crazy corruption, right? get to the bottom of that shit it's so it the fact that our system is so partisan and both sides hate each other kind of prevent that kind of like really crazy corruption right how do they all get so rich though yeah like i just don't know where the money's coming from assured destruction it's like that super rich democratic senator and that super rich republican senator like i still in my head have just the image of you know uh you know know, Nancy Pelosi and Paul Ryan, like being in a room after a big media day being like, oh, can you believe this?
Starting point is 00:07:31 Like, man, how much money we're making hand over fist right now with all this distraction? Like, I feel like they're all closer together than we know. Yeah, but they also use they all use their power to make money. And they also use they all use their power to make money. And so there's no like if Nancy Pelosi or whoever goes, hey, fucking Chuck Schumer. If Chuck Schumer says, hey, Rand Paul or someone's making hundreds of millions that he'll go, OK, Chuck Schumer, you made hundreds of millions. It's like, oh, fuck. Yeah, I guess you caught us. We're all doing this. Eventually you'd have a Mr. Smith goes to Washington type scenario where someone would be like, I don't that's not what I'm here for. I don't stand for this. What about the people?
Starting point is 00:08:06 That would eventually happen and it just doesn't. I think within the laws and the systems that are in play, there's plenty of ways for them to earn money. It seems like, I don't know the Clinton specifics, but it seems like they earned all their money with those speaking engagements. It seems like every time she goes and speaks,
Starting point is 00:08:21 she's getting like half a million dollars. Okay, so my understanding of a speaking engagement is they say, Woody, we're going to pay you half a million, one million dollars to come speak here. And then we're hoping that you open up some doors for us behind the scenes. I don't believe that he'll – I mean Bernie Sanders said it great. He's like, I want to see these speeches. These must be some great speeches if they're worth six hundred thousand dollars for 15 minutes i think it's the public good to benefit from these magnificent speeches yeah you're i think woody's 100 on the on the nose with this because think about it like if there's a big group of financial investors or people in the finance sphere and they're like, hey, it would be a good investment for us to each pony up and let's throw $700,000 together, get Secretary Clinton in here and she can tell us how to run a business better.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Like think of the tips and tools she'll have for us. Like what are they going to do? Like she goes up there and goes, well, I've never worked in the finance industry and I have no idea what it is you do, but you need to do it with this. Like no, it's just her saying nothing of value. She's brilliant with cattle features. Yeah, with cattle features. She's brilliant. Let's talk cattle.
Starting point is 00:09:34 She doesn't actually know any shit of value for that audience. It's just a kickback. It's a way for those guys to go, hey, we're going to give you all this for this service, but really this service is just for you taking care of back-end deals for us is what i always figured that's my assumption too with your power thing that i i get it because i feel like this might be a gender or a sex thing like i feel like men aren't as attracted to power in a potential partner okay and women are more attracted to power in a potential partner because i think there's are more attracted to power in a potential partner.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Because I think there's just something kind of as a man that you kind of want to make your own power in a way. Like, you want to be the... Like, if I was dating some, I don't know, Israeli prime minister lady, like, I wouldn't like that.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It'd be like, oh, like, I don't have anything to do in this relationship. I have no... Special forces on tap. Exactly. How do you not like this scenario? What if she's got high T?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Dude, you need to feel useful in a relationship. Tell me more about her testosterone level. It's off the charts. They blood tested her, and she couldn't even get TRT. She's the only woman when you're fucking her voice cracks. Give it to me harder. Yeah, we're going through puberty. Anyway, yeah, I've been watching this healthcare thing.
Starting point is 00:10:57 As a guy who doesn't, I guess I want healthcare to get better. I want the system to get better. There's possibilities for improvement in here. McCain said it well. He's like, the current healthcare bill is kind of flawed. He's like, we all know that. People who are for it, people who are against it, we all know that. And he's like, but the thing that we got coming up here is a shell of a bill and it's awful and I can't vote for it in its current form. We all know that too. People who are for it and who are against it know that this bill is not a good one. And it was just like, oh, nice. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It struck a chord with me. Chris Cyborg is fighting. Yes. Let's talk about UFC. This is a huge fucking card. Huge. So, Taylor, if you don't know, the UFC maybe twice a year-ish does their Super Bowl of cards. Like all the fights you want to see stacked on one single card.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It's the craziest thing. There is no McGregor right now. He's boxing, apparently. But John Jones and Daniel Cormier. Cormier. Cormier. Cormier. Cormier.
Starting point is 00:12:00 That's it. Cormier. John Jones and DC. Those guys are about to fight. Now, there's a long history with these guys. DC has never lost a fight. He was a Strikeforce champion. He's smaller league champions.
Starting point is 00:12:17 He came into the UFC. Fought at heavyweight. Beat all the heavyweights there. But his friend was also a heavyweight. So he steps down to 205 beats everybody until he hits john jones and then john jones uh gets a five round decision over him clear decision but it was still a decision he didn't finish the guy and um then john jones life goes off the rails he's smashing his car into pregnant women getting high on coke smashing
Starting point is 00:12:43 his car maybe again i don't know i can't keep up with them all it was the dick he's pissed hot for dick pills yeah the dick pills is an excuse for a performance enhancing my penis is so large that i need those but that's literally his claim i have a normal man he's saying rectal function it's just so big yeah he's saying this is john jones's story right there's two taylor you need to pick one of these and see which one you believe It's just so big. Yeah, he's saying this is John Jones' story, right? There's two. Taylor, you need to pick one of these and see which one you believe, okay? Story one is that he tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs,
Starting point is 00:13:15 and he was cheating to perform better in sports. That's one possibility. The other is that while he has a fully functioning dick, is that while he has a fully functioning dick, his dick is so big that he had to take gas station Viagra and that had things in it that he didn't know that made him piss hot and he had to take gas station Viagra,
Starting point is 00:13:37 like I said, because he has an enormous cock and that's the other possibility that it could be. And he's very upset. Yeah, but that's not other possibility that it could be. And he's very upset. Yeah, but that's, like, not even how biology works. Like, it's not like... It totally is. It totally is.
Starting point is 00:13:52 No, if you go into a doctor's office and you have ED, he doesn't go, all right, here's this pill. You know, first we're going to get out our Archimedes device to dip you in and see, like like what size pill is appropriate for you like That guy, that doctor is never going to- I have a counter example Real quick, that doctor is never gonna say what you want to do is go to 7-eleven and get something called a furious hornet. You're gonna buy six of those and you're gonna take them bi-hourly like what?
Starting point is 00:14:23 No, you're a maniac. Like, why wouldn't he just stick with a reasonable excuse and say he had ED, so then it would be like, oh, okay, well, at least, you know, now we kind of feel bad for him because he's this big fighter man, and he's also kind of a loser. Oh, dude, circle back to that. But when I get my dog medicine for, like, heartworm or fleas, they look at how big the dog is.
Starting point is 00:14:45 So, you know, it just stands to reason john jones's dick needs some sort of turbo i've seen this in pornography before man with an incredibly large penis but it's like hey he's not even he's he's just down here like this and he'll have to get the base of it and like like you know when the toothpaste is almost done he'll have to like pull that move and like like like like get it like he'll have two fists of cock and then he'll have like another fist and a half of cock that's hard because he's squeezing all the bottom blood like this is a thing that happens i don't have quite that much cock myself but i've seen some video evidence if i do that to a baby's arm will the hand swell up like a surgical glove? Huge! Huge! Just squeeze it. But regardless of the
Starting point is 00:15:27 biology of it, it just seems like this is a stupid route to take with... Like, he literally let pride and some weird story get in the way of him maybe getting away with something in that, right? Like, if he had... Oh, he ended up getting away with it after that excuse?
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's a good excuse he he has a product that's not performance enhancing that will make you piss hot that he has an excuse for taking like like like no but it's not performing it's not sexy but if it's not something that was given to him this is it doesn't matter because it's not a banned substance let me lay it out it is a banned substance but here's what happens. What I mean is like the pills he was taking aren't the banned substance. They're not like, ah, no dick pills. They're like, ah, no whatever is in there that's banned.
Starting point is 00:16:15 So he didn't mean to do it is what I'm saying. Let me lay this out for people who don't follow like USADA testing, which is probably most people. most people. If you piss hot for a performance enhancing drug or sometimes a drug that masks a performance enhancing drug or whatever, step number one is to find something else that that is in. Like, oh my gosh, I hadn't realized it. Monster Energy Drink has steroids in it this whole time. I accidentally took it. If you can convince this board that you accidentally took this drug, that you weren't just popping it as an effort to get bigger muscles, but instead it was slipped into something that you didn't know about,
Starting point is 00:16:52 then sometimes they give you a lesser punishment. And that's what happened to John Jones. He got suspended. I forget if it might've been a year instead of two years. And it's because he found this random gas station drug that like a literally like i guess there's like a vending machine and a gas station bathroom well you know by these things yeah and there's a whole slew of them yeah i think i spend my time in higher class bathrooms than john jones
Starting point is 00:17:19 does i literally think that's true but uh anyway yeah i guess in some gas stations they have vending machines on the wall that hand out this like black market viagra and that had it and jones said he was taking that not performance enhancing drugs and uh and they gave him a lesser and it's like well but real quick like that explanation only makes sense if they go all right mr jones so do you have problem getting having a problem getting an erection? And then it seems like he would have to say yes. And then they would go, okay, so a problem was made, and now we move on and we'll test it and everything.
Starting point is 00:17:58 But it seems like he just made excuses the whole time. He said he had a problem. The problem is he can't get his dick fully erect. That's an erectile dysfunction by definition he admitted that he just has this caveat that he throws in there if you're on a podcast or something you're asking about he's like yeah the problem isn't that it doesn't get hard at all the problem is that it's so damn big it can't get to where i want it uh what's great is in the build-up to this fight fight Daniel Cormier and his whole team is constantly mentioning like my dick works
Starting point is 00:18:28 my dick Jim's full of people my dick works too I may have some belly fat John Jones but my dick works great it's just hilarious like it's funny like it's only that he's a professional fighter that people are letting him get away with this because like a fighter can say whatever they want people are like well I mean like if I saw
Starting point is 00:18:44 him in person I would wholeheartedly agree but like like that is ridiculous it's like what are you you're in your 20s you're in your 20s and you're around a bunch and you're a professional athlete and you think you expect everyone to believe that you can't get an erection and you're in your 20s and you're you're not fat i need to see you're in shape you're in you're a professional that's fucking athlete this is hold on this is literally the equivalent of a kid on a playground i can fight anyone i could take anyone he gets cocked knocked on the ground i didn't even want to win that fight i didn't even i didn't want to it's like no you did but you got called on your bs and you're so insecure you have to like come up with some weird thing. It's just weird. What if you saw the penis
Starting point is 00:19:25 and it was indeed so girthy and long that a normal, even an athletic heart just couldn't keep this thing. It would have to be bafflingly big for a professional athlete's heart to not have what it takes.
Starting point is 00:19:41 For a professional fighter's, it would have to be to the point... Does he wear shorts when he fights? No, he can't. He wears... They look like capris, and you can see it running all the way down past his knees. Wait, but real quick, though. Does he for real wear shorts when he fights?
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yeah, he does. Okay, well, then he's a liar. Because unless he looks like one of those Greek... Hey, hey, I have some evidence. It sticks up the back of his waistband. Have you ever seen those Greek priapism? Are you looking at this picture? Yeah. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Wait, is that Jon Jones? It is Jon Jones. BBC, Big Black Hawk, you don't get this? This is not a thing you know? No, he works for the British Broadcast Company. Anyway, I thought it was hilarious. It's a really big fight card tonight because Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier
Starting point is 00:20:37 are finally going to face off after a really long time. They faced off a couple years ago. Jon Jones won and then all of his issues took place. So Cormier holds the belt because Jon has been out with Dick Pills and running over white ladies and snorting coke. So
Starting point is 00:20:54 Cormier has been the champion holding that belt, winning fights and stuff. And Jon Jones is back now and he's like, I want my belt back. And Cormier knows he wants it back. It's going to be awesome. Cormier has been beating all the same people John Jones beat, right? You know, he beat Gustafson.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He beat, I don't know if Jones ever fought Rumble. But he's been beating like the who's who of 205. And everyone is like, ah, asterisk, you didn't beat John Jones, right? He's been champ for a couple years now with this like, yeah, but John Jones exists. You're not champ champ because you didn't beat the champ you just i was watching him beat him last night he would rumble would would uh you know hands up and john would just touch his hand and then john's got an 84 inch reach so he
Starting point is 00:21:38 would grab the other guy's glove and then just hassa with his elbow and his elbows are long enough that he can hold your glove and elbow you in the face jones b rumble yeah yeah i don't think it was a ko i i don't think it was a ko but yeah um it was all i remember that you guys were both saying you both glossed over it that he's hitting pregnant ladies with his car or something what what what's this uh he had a hit and run accident where he just and the lady was pregnant and her arm was broken or something like that. So that's the clip I showed you where they think
Starting point is 00:22:10 they're off mic and he's like, you still there pussy? And he's like, man I wish I could come over there and I could spit in your face right now. And he's like, you know if you ever did that I would kill you. Yeah, yeah, you couldn't kill me John. No, no. I'm not talking about a fight. I would literally kill you. Yeah, yeah. You think I'm just gonna sit there and let you kill me john no no i'm not talking about a fight i would literally kill you yeah yeah you think i'm
Starting point is 00:22:25 just gonna sit there and let you kill me john and john is like i don't think you understand daniel i will murder you there will be no witnesses do i need to keep going like i just didn't get it like because they're not nobody's listening to this this is this is off mic and so the other big fight of the night in my opinion because because there's a second there's a fight in between there uh cyborg got bumped from co-main event i know the co-main event is an interesting fight too i just can't think of it maybe cowboy serrani versus okay it's damian maya versus tyrone woodley ah that's it yeah i wanted to see woodley um but yeah go woodley cyborg is that hideous 145 pound woman. Like during Rhonda's run, there's always this gigantic woman
Starting point is 00:23:07 who can't even get down to Rhonda's size who was looming in the shadows. An unbeaten for 12 years, looks like a, you know that movie Saw? You know how in the movie Saw that scary mask thing would be like riding the tricycle?
Starting point is 00:23:23 That's what she looks like. That's what she looks like That's what she looks like I saw somebody tweeted out the other night They're like who wore it better and is that Matt and if both of them because cyborg looks like that It's she's very unfortunate looking, but she is the supreme female combat athlete on this planet She has to be and they're fighting tonight. They found this other lady who just looks like a real beast. I don't really know her record. I think she's from another fighting league or something like that. But I'm just excited that I get to see
Starting point is 00:23:51 Cyborg fight in the UFC. She's totally good. She's had a couple fights already, I think. Yeah, but I haven't seen them. Okay. I want to see Maya Woodley. That, to me, is the other big fight because the other one the cyborg you got i guess woodley i want maya to win i like damien maya he's
Starting point is 00:24:12 a brazilian jiu-jitsu guy he's the maybe the best brazilian jiu-jitsu guy ever to be in mma that's what joe lozon says oh i mean that's what uh joe rogan says okay he's very very very good like there are a lot of great brazilian guys and then there's maya who's great compared to the greats and uh he also went on a seven fight run to get here it seems like the ufc doesn't really like to promote grapplers because they come sometimes have boring fights you know everyone likes the big knockouts usually you win four or five fights in a row you get a title shot this guy's won seven and they just kind of like held it away from him he finally getting his title shot yeah that's true too is an age issue but he looks great and also he hasn't taken very much damage like he manages to slither
Starting point is 00:24:55 his way close to his opponents without getting crushed but woodley has two things two brick Two brick walls. One, his hands. He hits hard. Woodley is just, he's like a stacked super specimen of a sprinting powerhouse kind of fighter. And the other thing is Woodley has some of the best takedown defense in MMA. So we've got a grappler. Is that 180 pounds? 70. Okay. So we've got this grappler who needs to, one, get past those fists, which is always a
Starting point is 00:25:27 challenge. And then once he gets there, he's dealing with some of the best takedown defense in MMA. It's just as much as I love Maya, I feel like Woodley is custom built to beat that guy. It seems like this ends with Woodley kneeing him in the head. That's what I think often happens when you've got someone that's that good at striking and takedown defense when they're facing someone who's stylistically just gonna have to come for that takedown. I just don't see Maya
Starting point is 00:25:53 knocking him out or getting a TKO. It's gotta get to the ground. It's got to for him. He's a little bit shorter. I saw a John Jones interview where I don't remember who the other guy was, but he was like, you don't think I know what you're going to do? He enunciates, you're going to try to take me down.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I know you are. It's all you have. You don't think I'm training extensively at takedown defense with the best in the world? Please. And the other guy was just like shit i thought that was our top secret stuff we don't even let cameras in we don't talk about what we're doing these two people i can't recall it was john jones like like like in a but it wasn't against dc no no i don't know but dc is pretty much the same game right he usually calls dc fat
Starting point is 00:26:42 this is awesome dc is like you've got bad leg genetics because john jones has curiously thin legs and he's like you're gonna say i got bad leg genetics with that belly fat yours he's like your genetics are a mess it was like i i don't know who's winning this but it's great you guys uh you guys are watching and you pick your favorite fighters and who you like is it more that you guys are just like oh pick your favorite fighters and who you like, is it more that you guys are just like, oh, I like the way that guy, I like the cut of his jib, I like the way he fights, or is it like,
Starting point is 00:27:12 because I know so little, I almost always, like when I'm starting it, if one of them is American, I'm just like, all right, boom, Woodley, you're my man, we're going on this together. How do you guys do it? I like people who, so there's certain styles that I definitely like. I like guys who are flashy a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I'm spacing out on it right now. Neo Magni. There's a guy from Mexico who's like Javier or something. He's like a 145-pounder or something like that. Incredibly flashy. Cody Garbrandt, another guy. Really flashy. I like that.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I like spinning stuff. I like kicks. I like spinning stuff. I like kicks. I like stuff that appears to the audience to be showboating, but then you'll realize that he's hiding something behind it. You know what I mean? I don't like it to be some goofball out there doing backflips because those guys get punished. It looks a little like a kung fu movie.
Starting point is 00:27:57 It's amazing. Yes. It's a little. The guys who land that stuff, because really unorthodox styles, I like that. I don't like Jon Jones as a person at all. And he does eye poke. I don't like that either at all.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But he has an incredibly fun style to watch. He punishes people in a way that most people can't. It's not that they don't want to hurt you the way Jon Jones does. They just can't. The elbows seem meaner. Oh, my gosh. So Jon Jones has incredibly long arms and legs. He's kind of thin, like skinny.
Starting point is 00:28:29 He's a praying mantis. He makes 205, whereas most people, his height would be a heavyweight. And he puts his hand on you and then follows it with the elbow. And he'll be in here fighting you, and rather than punch, he throws elbows. And you're like, oh, my God, he like fighting you and rather than punch he throws elbows and you're like oh my god he's fighting you with half arms but those elbows are hard he really does i hadn't
Starting point is 00:28:52 seen his whole like body standing and everything like for a guy as tall as he is and with those limbs he has a very small torso he's a he's got a very like daddy long legs vibe about him his opponent is the opposite he's his opponent is wide wide and he's from belly button to back he is like this yeah in both ways like from armpit to armpit he's gigantic but from like nipple to lat like he's also very big he's just an enormous person and he went in there and said, John Jones is strong. John Jones is so much stronger than I thought he would be. That's what DC said. But if John Jones is off the dick pills now,
Starting point is 00:29:32 he might be a new fighter. Almost every time you do a rematch like this, the older fighter, if he lost the first time, loses the second time. It's something Chael Sonnen says. He's like, if you can find an example,
Starting point is 00:29:42 let me know. But every time you get a young guy against the old guy and the young guy wins when they fight again the young guy wins again you know the old guy's not gotten better since the last time they met yeah so that that makes a lot of sense and and john jones has a stylistic that john jones is very good at what dc is also good at plus he has a lot more john jones is way more avenues to victory he just has a lot of things that he can do that DC needs to stop from happening. And the one thing DC does really well for clinch fighting, Jones is very
Starting point is 00:30:10 strong there too, so it's not like he has a huge advantage. The thing is that the only hope is that John Jones isn't the same fighter he was because of ring rust and because he's not on steroids. It's not going to happen though. Did you see John last year doing that i think
Starting point is 00:30:26 he just went back to the old routine he didn't get caught for it yeah he's like i'm getting rid of those dick pills that almost got me fucked you know that was a good excuse once you know he's got prescription dick pills now he makes that known uh but but he um yeah but like during his off time he wasn't just sitting around doing nothing. He was winning jiu-jitsu tournaments and stuff. He's been out there doing stuff a lot. I think I watched a wrestling match between him and someone else a while back. Maybe it was jiu-jitsu or just grappling. It was some sort of mixed rule thing.
Starting point is 00:30:58 There's no striking. He's been keeping it. I think he destroys DC. I think he knocks DC out. Kyle's right. I think everything Kyle said is right. But there is a counter-argument, and I been keeping it. I think he destroys DC. I think he knocks DC out. Kyle's right. I think everything Kyle said is right. But there is a counter argument, and I'll pitch it. The first times Jones got suspended because he smashed his car into that pregnant woman
Starting point is 00:31:14 and then went back, got his drugs out of the car, and then ran from the scene. This is like a real PC. You don't want to get high after some shit like that, right? Do you know how hard you have to hit someone in your car to hurt them? Cars nowadays are amazing. People don't get hurt anymore. This woman has a broken arm. That was not a small collision.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Anyway, so after that, during that suspension, he went and started powerlifting. Got super strong. He got into powerlifting. Like it became a passion of his. And then he fight this guy, OSP, and he wasn't the same fighter. He kind of changed the recipe a little bit. He got tired a little quicker. He wasn't the Jones that was so perfect for
Starting point is 00:31:49 the tools he was born with. Now, he gets suspended again, this time for the dick pills, and in the meantime, he's learning Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He's becoming this grappler, and he's pretty good at it. I've seen him. He's certainly better than I have ever been. He's good. Not that I'm kind of minstering.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Anyway, the question is, can you change the recipe and expect an improvement? You know, if you're a golfer and you change your swing, do you think you're a better golfer now? Like, usually not, right? I don't think he's going to change his recipe. I think we're going to see a lot of distance and a lot of striking. I think he's going to punish DC, and he's going to make fucking sure he gets this win. Because this would be a devastating loss. He knows if Jon Jones loses this, it's a real shitty loss.
Starting point is 00:32:37 He's got to, I mean, he'll get a third fight, of course. But that's next year. He gets a lot of money if he loses this. He's like, god damn it. Okay. I guess his worst case scenario is, if I lose this fight, then this is all my life is about for the next damn it. Okay. I guess his worst case scenario is if I lose this fight, then this is all my life is about for the next year again. Again. However, if I win this fight,
Starting point is 00:32:53 then I can get some of that Conor McGregor money. That's what he's got to be thinking. He wants that Conor McGregor money because he knows he's a better fighter than Conor McGregor. He knows he's a more flashy guy. He knows he can be more dominant and accept more challenge. How much bigger is he than Conor? Conor fights like 150, right? Like 25% bigger.
Starting point is 00:33:11 155 and 205 are the weights. And there's two weight classes. So it's 155. Yeah, that's right. And then 170. And then 185. And then Jon Jones. So there's like a gap.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Oh, and so it's like there's no like no way conor mcgregor and john jones are like heavyweight lightweight or whatever there's no way they would ever match up well here's the thing though conor conor's you know conor likes to be entertaining so so he's often talked about going up to 185 i think and getting tyron no or whatever tyron woodley is yeah 170 he because so he so he got, 170. So he got the 145 belt. He got the 155 belt. So the next thing is 170 and that's that Tyrone Woodley guy we talked about.
Starting point is 00:33:51 He's talked about going after that belt before. That's always funny to hear. That's too many. If he goes for that belt, I'm going all Tyrone Woodley. Let's keep a couple of these belts in the USA. Amputate his right arm. He amputates his right arm, goes down to 120, 135. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I don't even want to fight. You're a little man. You don't do nothing. So, I'm coming back next year as Conorina McGregor. I'm gonna take all the women's belts. And if you can't handle that, then you're a fucking bigot, eh? coming back next year as Conorina. I'm going to take all the women's belts. And if you can't handle that, then you're a fucking bigot, eh?
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah, right. I now identify as a 145-pound woman. Before you ask, before you even ask, I'm keeping my cock. I can handle a bit of extra weight down there. Man, if you want to get some karma, that little joke in g gift form or our picture form would do well to after
Starting point is 00:34:48 after cyborg wins the 145 pound belt because like like like like what Conor McGregor's thinking now like he's thinking about going to get cyborg you know what's fun let you be the gift man turning into a woman so we can get extra belts. Stealing one from Woodley at 170. Oh, Connor. He's been in this face-off thing with Mayweather. It's over now.
Starting point is 00:35:15 They're training. But Connor never mentioned Mayweather's women problems. Never. And it turns out, it's just a rumor, but everyone says that Connor just had a baby. Apparently, he just had two babies. And one of them was not with his longtime girlfriend, fiancé, person named Dee. That there's another baby.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Double champ! Double double daddy! Yeah. So he, like. Double champs and double daddy. Yeah, all, like, Mayweather. Yeah, Mayweather is, like, he's had all, like, he hit girls. He had all sorts of, Connor did not mention that guy's personal life
Starting point is 00:35:49 because of the glass houses thing, they say. I bet that's totally true. I bet they had a little private conversation at some point. Like, you know, everything I say, it's just going to be coming after you. You know, I'm going to be harsh, but, you know, I've got my own problems, and we're not going to go down that road. Tit for tat on that. You keep your mouth shut, and I'll keep mine.
Starting point is 00:36:11 So I got pretty excited about them during the press conference. It worked on me. Four was probably too many, but I was watching them, and I was loving it and looking at who won the joust. But then somebody ruined it for me. You know what they said? They said, this is all theater. These guys are taking the same tiny private jet from location to location.
Starting point is 00:36:30 They're flying together on one of those 12-person jets with both of their crews. Yeah, I heard that claimed, but I didn't see any proof. But I did see proof that they weren't. I saw a picture from Connor's jet, and you could see the length of the jet, and it was all white people. Yeah, we tried coordinating. I'm happy again. We tried coordinating. I wrote i wrote his script for him i handed it to him he didn't even look at it chill sonny did that oh kyle have you watched that ozark show yet i the first mentioned
Starting point is 00:37:10 that i've even heard of an ozark show was your text message earlier uh what's it about where is it it's uh it's on netflix it's one of netflix series and i've been on like uh called rogo is is he is he in it no No, that's called Frontier. This is called... Easy mistake, I guess. This one, it has a real Breaking Bad vibe about it. It's got Jason Bateman. Is that his name? The actor?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah, Jason Bateman. It's got Jason Bateman and some other well-known lady as the leading lady. It's got a Breaking Bad vibe, but it doesn't have any of the starting part of breaking bad which is like walt like oh i saw the you know i gotta i gotta rub my you know pearl clutch a little bit like this guy like starts out as kind of a piece of shit and it
Starting point is 00:37:55 just goes down quickly from there i'm lost a show called ozark on netflix oh yeah it's out or coming out yes it's out all 10 episodes are out. It's one of the series... I've been kind of unimpressed with the last few Netflix shows that I tried watching. I tried Frontier. I tried a couple other ones and I got a few episodes in and I was just like, this isn't doing it for me. And I didn't watch this one. It's only been out for like four days, but I started it
Starting point is 00:38:18 and it is so much better than a lot of other Netflix shows out there. You guys will both like it because of how nefarious Breaking like it because of how, you know, nefarious breaking bad it is and how quickly it, it moves. The only thing I don't like about it is you'll notice it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 You're both noticing that is the, the lady, the leading lady who's supposed to be from the Ozarks. Her, she's an actress from New York. Her accent is the whole gamut of southern people and it bounces around the whole time
Starting point is 00:38:50 and she goes from like serious southern drow just kind of like a perky thing and it's just very aggravating in that way but other than that the acting is spectacular and I think you guys it's very violent it
Starting point is 00:39:06 starts like so there's a movie coming out with with Will Smith I bet you're thinking of and it looks really cool on Netflix uh I think this is in theaters I watched a um trailer for it today and it was unbelievable the guy if I I'm looking for which one it is. If I understand it right, the guy gets into a traffic accident. He leaves a very respectable life. I think he's wearing a suit and he's hanging out. But he was drinking and driving. Ah, yeah. So Jamie Lannister goes to jail for...
Starting point is 00:39:35 Because he has an accident while drinking and his buddy dies and he becomes fucking hardcore in prison. Super hardcore. And then he kills a guy in prison. So it's like now more time. So now the white supremacist, the trailer gives everything away, of course. So now the white supremacists are like, oh, you got to do some
Starting point is 00:39:51 dirty shit for us on the outside or we kill your family. And he's like, no one messes with my family. And that's going to be the whole arc of the movie. I'm going to have to give that one like one of these. Really? Yeah. Wait, so you did watch it? No, I watched the preview. The trailer is like three minutes and you're like, alright, I know
Starting point is 00:40:08 how this ends. Kyle brings up a good point. I've seen Prison Break. What blew me away is I saw the guy in the car and he was you know, Sesame Street. It seemed like a really good guy, successful, would never break
Starting point is 00:40:24 a law, etc. And then he goes to prison. And his transformation into badass was so effective and so believable for me. I wanted to see it. Better than Walter White. It was incredible. I'm pretty psyched for this new Will Smith movie that's on Netflix. It's set in this alternate universe where we coexist with fairies and elves and goblins and trolls. So they're like members of society. There's gangsters with suits on, but they've got troll teeth hanging down.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And Will Smith just got what they call a minority hire. He's got a troll partner. So there's no more looking down on them. Is he a cop or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a cop. He's got a troll partner he's like so like there's no more looking down on something yeah yeah yeah he's a cop he's like lapd so like like you would you would it it sort of has the same kind of racist tones as if like it was an all-white force and a black guy got on and now like you're in traffic and like another troll sees the troll in the cop car is like yeah what's up and the troll is like i'm not not in front of my black partner. I gotta fight not here. And they're dealing with
Starting point is 00:41:27 magical crime shit. Like, holy shit, is that a magic wand? And there's explosions and shit. It looks like there's some sort of war going on with fairies. Is it serious-ish or men in black silly? No, serious. It seems like there's a little mix.
Starting point is 00:41:43 No, you gotta look at who made it. Have you ever seen End of Watch with Jake Gyllenhaal? No. It's a really hardcore LAPD thing where a lot of the main characters die in the end and blood and guts and it's like legit, it's hardcore. That guy made this. This is going to be good. The only joke I saw in the trailer is he comes outside of his house,
Starting point is 00:42:06 and there's a fairy in his bird feeder, and there's a bunch of gangsters sitting around. They're like, give him that LAPD ass whooping. And Will Smith takes a broom and hits the fairy so hard it goes to the ground and then smashes it, and blood and guts go everywhere. And they're like, yeah. He's like, y'all just keep going with your gangster shit. I'm just trying to sell my house
Starting point is 00:42:25 No big deal. I thought that was pretty funny, but it didn't seem goofy or silly like there weren't any talking about I want to like I like fantasy shit like that like that. I will like it like I Don't know if you love Lord of the Rings to this level Kyle But often when I jump into any new fantasy world that will that still says like oh orcs are here or like look out for the orcs or uruk-hai or whatever mostly orcs like I'll in my head like I have like a basically like a child's tantrum of like that's not what an orc looks like that's not an orc like they don't have horns like that like do you get that ever and you know in your head it's so stupid and silly no no no I think what you're saying is that to you that like like the do you get that ever again you know in your head it's so stupid and silly no no no i
Starting point is 00:43:05 think what you're saying is that to you that like like the if you're looking up what an elf or what a or what a an orc or or what a uh dwarf a troll a dwarf looks like like it's it's tolkien's version of those things like like like and and you've got a good point there because i mean like nobody else was like making up languages for the these races and distinguishing between different races within each species and stuff. There's different types of elves, and there's different types of dwarves, and he distinguishes those and talks about their varying languages and why they're that way. I could go with Tolkien's versions of mythical things. It's just the way you think about it. When I think a child wizard or something,
Starting point is 00:43:49 I wasn't the biggest Harry Potter fan, but I picture a Harry Potter kind of look. It's just because that's kind of the archetype that you're backfilling. But yeah, I'll check that out. That seems pretty cool. When does it come out? When does it come out, Kyle? Is it like this year?
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's called Bright, and it does come out Kyle? Is it like this year? It's called Bright and it does come out this year I'm just looking for the exact date. That show Ozarks Woody you I know that your flagship complaint for most shows is it's taking forever to get anything
Starting point is 00:44:20 done. They're like this is taking forever. This season we'll try to cross the prairie. Exactly. There is none of this in this show. The only feeling you get is like, oh, I wish they would have included more of how that was happening,
Starting point is 00:44:35 but the first episode is almost like Breaking Bad-ish in that it gets started just a few minutes after it goes. So you'll like that aspect of it. The Will Smith thing comes out December, so quite a wait for that. What was that Viking movie that we all like so much? Was it called Vikings? It wasn't a movie.
Starting point is 00:44:54 No, there's a history channel. On the history channel, there's a thing called Vikings. It's okay, but there's a thing called The Last Kingdom on Netflix. That's right, yeah. No, as much as I praised how much that moved, there was a part of me later that was like, you know what? Sometimes the reason the highs are so high
Starting point is 00:45:12 is that you came from a low. And I like that it moved. I don't know that I'd change it, but I will say that show was like all sugar, no potatoes. And a proper meal has a steak, potato, and a dessert. It was just dessert, dessert, dessert. You know, like a guy waiting for an army to show up.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So what does he do? He actually stands on the field, looks at his watch, and then there they are. Took 15 seconds for a viewer time. If that was Game of Thrones, it would be two years. Like literally seasons would go by. The army would die. Like the army would die. The army would almost be there,
Starting point is 00:45:49 and then they'd find a magic weapon, and then they'd all die. They would get your hopes right up to here before taking them away. They'd be like, oh, sir, not only is your army here, they found the Excalibur. You will be the king of kings. And then all of a sudden, you see Excalibur explode because the wrong guy grabbed it,
Starting point is 00:46:03 and fire rains down on all of his armies. Is Euron winning you over? Euron won me over. What I said last week was why are we so afraid of Euron? He hasn't kicked one ass, not a single one, not even a slap of the face. We've seen Tyrion
Starting point is 00:46:19 kick a lot more ass than Euron. Tyrion went in with that battle axe into that war. He led the charge and won the Blackwater Bay. He's killed many a man. I've seen it. I've seen it. But Euron hadn't done shit as far as I was concerned.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Nothing impressive, certainly. And then, in the dead of night, he rides a golden kraken jaw with a big with a big squid axe and like smashes a man with his entrance and he's just like and he's got full plate armor because of course he doesn't mind drowning and he just goes ham and he kills two thirds of the
Starting point is 00:46:58 sand snakes with their own weapons and he whips them the same the way you want them to right like she hits him with that whip and he'sips them the same the way you want them to right like she hits him with that whip and he's like come here and just kills her oh dude i always my fear in battle like how i sometimes think like how would hypothetically how would hypothetical would he do in battle this and that and of course you think highly of yourself maybe but what i don't like is the first guy in battle right when you're at the front those people no one lives no one goes to the very front like it's me and 12 other guys we're the tip
Starting point is 00:47:33 of the spear that spear is getting stabbed you're done you're done the beginning of saving private ryan all those people died as the ship doors dropped. The little amphibious things. Not because they were bad at war. Because they were first. You know? Someone had to be first and we volunteered you to be cannon fodder. I feel like the top tier guys, my favorite story,
Starting point is 00:47:57 even in the books as well, is like Euron kind of retold, is like when Jaime comes through the hole in the wall when they're fighting against the the Greyjoys and he was like oh yeah you just came through they said you were the best in the world unbeatable unstoppable look and did I live up to it well you came through the wall and sliced everything you saw in half yeah it was a thing to behold yeah yeah all right and really kind of showed like you're on he's a oh god He's on that little lever thing that goes down into the other boat. He's first
Starting point is 00:48:28 He's first and like rather than be like oh fuck. I'm first. I like at a hundred and fifty to one He's like what a target rich environment. You know like yeah This is what I trained for and just starts killing everyone while his backup comes and he was playing zombies like the way I do, where I'm like, it's mine, it's mine, that's my kill, get out of here, get out of here, no, don't come over to the boat yet, you fuck, no, just me for the next minute.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Like, the thing I like the most about that battle is like, I'm lukewarm on him, or I was much more lukewarm, up until the sea snakes, the sand snakes part started, and as soon as those bitches got on deck, first of all, all of Twitter erupted with like, No! Dammit, I thought they were gone! But then two seconds later, they were gone. Because as that battle was going,
Starting point is 00:49:18 because we've been conditioned now to think that waifu small women wearing sashes and whips are going to go and do badass things but it was a it was exactly what would have happened where it's just a yeah you know like leah from futurama and he just kind of irritated for a second and is like oh i forgot all right and you're dead all right where's your friend oh right over there all right i'll come to you okay like that that kind of thing and so that really got a lot of points seeing him in real time, murder,
Starting point is 00:49:46 boring storylines. Did you watch the videography? That's fine. Like the way you put that. Did you watch the videography? Like I was like, all right, sand snakes are funny again.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Let's see how they handle this. How did they handle it? Like three frame shots repeated. It was just like, I'm like, Oh my God, thank goodness. I'm not like prone to epileptic seizures because the camera work on the most recent Sand Snake fight
Starting point is 00:50:08 was just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, jump cut, jump cut, jump cut. So many jump cuts, total confusing, hardly see what's happening. The cameraman, I can just picture. For the best. You know? It's for the best that it be dark and it take place. Because here's what it is. They're not coordinated to do combination moves.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like, there's no way they can, like, run, do a roll, come up to one knee and then stab. They have to, like, all right, get on one knee right there. Corey, come stand here. Yeah, come stand in for the actor. All right. Now you're going to stab with a fake knife. We're going to record that. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Now do that 15 more times. All right. We got it. Now, Jim, come do a barrel roll for her. All right. We got that. Alright. Now do that 15 more times. Alright, we got it. Now, Jim, come do a barrel roll for her. Alright, we got that. That's how they're fighting. They're recording these girls' fight scenes. I guarantee it. Because they were just uncoordinated. They weren't good at it. They were just really pretty.
Starting point is 00:50:53 That's what happens when you hire a model to be an action figure. You know? The way that they move seems... You know, you say that, but look at Brienne. It's not like they picked Brienne. She's not a model. She's not a model. Yeah, but they picked her because she's 6'2". They didn't pick her because she happened to be a martial arts champion.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I think she just took to it. Jennifer Lawrence told this story of, I guess she did a Victoria's Secret shoot. And they were playing lingerie football. So it was her and a bunch of other models and when the thing came out they didn't use any jennifer lawrence pictures yeah this is the hunger games chick and she's like why like what like what like what happened you know how come you didn't use any more pictures and they showed her the pictures all the other girls were playing like pretty football where they were like like smiling and posing while they played football for the camera.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And she was like, get your ugly face on, winning at lingerie football. And all of her shots were just killer athletic. Yeah, I'm sure that was the reason. It wasn't that she's a full foot shorter than everyone else and dumpy. Is she short? Compared to a Victoria's Secret model, this is a six feet tall. But this is the story she told on the Graham Norton show. Yeah, I bet she did.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And it circles back to, like, that's why she was good for the Hunger Games. You know, not that she's, like, Ronda Rousey or anything, but she moves like an athletic person would move. She's an athletic woman. Have you ever watched, because i remember at our high school for football they would have like cheerleader games of football for like the field day things where all the cheerleaders played each other powder puff yeah powder puff football exactly and they would do that and for the most part it was what you described with those models
Starting point is 00:52:40 where you know 90 of the girls are just kind of like half-assed they don't really care more than anything they don't want to like get knocked down and get too dirty but 10 of those girls want to fucking win and they have been waiting this whole time to get the chance to play football they would have been on the football field if they were boys you know why they sign up for cheerleading yes you can see you can see in them like it's like oh yeah natalie over there she doesn't really give a fuck but wait wait till she hands it off to christine boom look at that yeah christine gives a fuck doesn't she and you can see and i guess it was a real-time thing i remember watching being like man this isn't even fun because both teams know they have two tryhards
Starting point is 00:53:18 that they'll just hand it to but yeah it is like a different thing if they had to cast an action hero out of my group of high school cheerleaders, they would have been the ones to pick, not the one going like, oh, I dropped the ball. Tee hee hee. Is it cute? It's like, no, hand it to me. No, it's a fumble.
Starting point is 00:53:35 You know, don't you ever watch the games? We're cheering. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. That's just, I don't think you're right on that. Yeah, I really liked this episode more than the first one even. Yeah. I don't want to burn through too too much yeah yeah let's save it for for pka that the game was short talk first one exact same length i think i think they were both 51 minutes maybe that uh indicates that
Starting point is 00:53:57 it was better because i was i was surprised it ended like i was watching it i was kind of into it i was enjoying it i wasn't doing that thing where I hit like pause play to see how much time there was left and then the credits rolled and I was like ah now I have to wait another week like it's done and it snuck up on me
Starting point is 00:54:17 I'm doing Game of Thrones party this weekend we have some friends coming over they're huge they've read the books and I think they... Well, one, we're hanging out. We're doing a pool party and stuff. But two, they like our big screen, and they want to watch Game of Thrones on it. I've had a couple...
Starting point is 00:54:33 I didn't know the protocol about this. Will they be talking during this? How does this work? Because I can't... You wouldn't expect. What are you going to do, Woody, when you're eight minutes into it and something just happened and they just switched over to Arya? They started with Tyrion.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Tyrion got in some shit and some shit goes down. Then they go to Arya and it's like formulative stuff. It's important. And this individual starts going, can you believe that? Wow, that Tyrion. I hope he makes it. We'll hit her with this sand snake whip. Dagger's next, bitch.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Your friend's white, right? What? Are they white? Yeah, they're white. No, he's a troll. But I've had a couple Game of Thrones bashes before, not in a wonderful sunroom or anything or a theater room.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Of course, when i was in college uh there was one that me and the two other two other friends of mine that were all caught up on the books at the time it was right before the red wedding episode and we all knew that the red wedding episode was going to be the the big to-do all like and all of us did because we were the ones who had read the books but we invited you know a dozen other people to come over who just liked the show and so you know you got you know some girls and guys they're all sitting around and we're watching and everything and me my buddy matt and someone else are all there and we like are always like stealing glances at each other like oh oh oh it's coming like is it gonna come it better fucking come because i really think it's and then finally when that last scene started happening you hear like the who
Starting point is 00:56:07 yeah you hear that whole thing and my buddy who didn't know it was gonna happen saw catlin's face do like that drop when she heard it and he's like oh what's gonna happen like look at her face and i was like you know cat, she always looks like that. And then him and his girlfriend were like, yeah, she does kind of always look like that. And they just they kept watching. And it wasn't until like two stabs into the pregnant lady's belly that it started to register. And people were like, oh fuck fuck literally as this was happening i could hear upstairs in the apartment building people going
Starting point is 00:56:50 and everybody was just freaking out about it and it was it was the most it was the best experience of watching something with someone and seeing them be surprised ever i had never seen the scene either because they had just come out but I knew it was going to happen. There's something about that. Seeing other people internalize a horrible thing in a TV show. Those reaction videos went viral on YouTube. People were setting up cameras who knew it was coming.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I should have done that. In Harry Potter, when Dumbledore dies, I bet there were a lot of people that that would be a good one to catch. I've never had a moment like that where I knew something that big because there aren't many narratives that do that sort of thing, right? Where they build these guys up as
Starting point is 00:57:32 this is going to be your queen, this is going to be your king, she's pregnant with your new prince, and stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, and you're just like, oh, what am I watching? Because you know the Starks are going to win, with quotes for you guys on audio, and this is the only Stark are going to win, with quotes for you guys on audio. And this is the only Stark with any... Sansa's a pussy.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Arya's a little kid. Snow's not even a Stark. And he's sworn away. Bran's broken. Rickon's a child child, like three. Yeah, so it's like when you lost Rob... Wait a minute. That was it. Game over like how can it be game
Starting point is 00:58:08 over how can that be yeah like for like two or three years it was like you'd see the stark dire wolf in the intro and you'd be like why don't they even put them up there anymore like what's like like is that just so we remember them is that why they still put the dire yeah that was a first round playoff exit yeah And now it's just a reminder. So, alright, I'm going to say this. I think I'm the only one who was confused. I wasn't sure that was Nymeria. Because she looked
Starting point is 00:58:34 at Nymeria. Nymeria decided not to kill her. And then she goes, oh. Or she says, I'm going to Winterfell. Why don't you come with me? And then she says, that's not you. And I thought, I'm like, well, wait a minute. That's not Nymeria? Like, I don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:58:48 But I watched this YouTube video that explained it. And I forget. Oh, she was talking to her father, Ned Stark. And he was like, you're going to be a princess. You're going to wear dresses. You're going to learn to sew or whatever. And she says, that's not me. Right? So take that from, like, like season one circle back to season seven when she says that's not you Nymeria is no longer a pet right she's in the woods with her band of regular wolves you know
Starting point is 00:59:17 slaying shit and and when she says you can be my pet that's not you like ah I got it that was I didn't get it I didn't recognize it as a tie back to season one forgive me that was nearly a decade ago but i get it now and it was cool so i thought maybe i didn't notice that little line in the callback to it i just noticed the you know i figured it was nymeria right away because it was the one that looked like hers and it was the only wolf that was enormous. And as soon as I saw the wolf, by the way, I'm like, okay, you are forgiven for not including the wolf in more scenes because this is distractingly stupid. It's so big.
Starting point is 00:59:55 It's so big. It's so big. It's a horse of a wolf. It is. That's what it is. That's what they're supposed to be. I almost felt like they did a lot to prevent you from, like, gauging its size. Like, all right, we're going to take this wolf.
Starting point is 01:00:09 We're going to be projecting the camera upward, looking only the canopy of the forest, etc. I wish they had, you know, there's not a lot of dire wolf scenes. Well, they gave you a real wolf's face for the expressions. Right. But I guess I just wanted a real wolf to be there imposing in all the scenes as tall, you know, as big. Where what I thought they actually did was kind of like close up on a regular wolf and you couldn't see. I bet the reason they did that was because like they realized just like in the first seasons when they try and depict this giant wolf you know uh delicately padding through the forest like a clever monster like it just it's it looks awkward it looks weird it
Starting point is 01:00:51 doesn't look real like you know it just it's so bad it's distracting and so it's easier to just kind of try and bamboozle you like they did with gandalf and the hobbits and lord of the rings and the heights and just kind of imply that it's really big and at the same time not open themselves up to a bunch of people going, that wolf is fake! Fake wolf! Stupid fake wolf! Like Walking Dead.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Did you see that table? Oh, I saw the deer. That's what I meant to say, yeah. Did you see the table where they made Gandalf look big through forced perspective that shifted? I've seen all the special editions. I was hoping you had. That, to me, showed level of like detail and care that
Starting point is 01:01:25 was amazing i i know the dire wolf can't be in every scene because it's expensive but i wish they had done that you know how expensive is it this is the biggest show on tv like fucking splurge a little is it gonna be another million dollars really like it's worth it then i don't think i don't understand like when i hear, we have the budget for the CGI wolf, you're like, isn't this a show where our heroes are the wolf people? Don't they each have a wolf assigned to them that they're telepathic with? Come the fuck on.
Starting point is 01:01:57 The whole wolf storyline, it seems like George R.R. Martin wrote it in and then quickly was like, no, we're not doing that. It almost seems that way. I had a realization. It turns out if you give everyone a giant wolf it makes many of their tasks too easy. You'll never get in here to get to the key of Ashkaban.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Snowshoe, run in and get it. Okay. I lost it already. What's your realization realization it was it was a game of thrones thing it wasn't about the wolves it was about the lord of the rings height thing that they would spend it on that oh how can i lose these things so quickly uh it's gone you know what with like i feel like i'm the only one on this team, but I would much rather them spend a lot more money making real armor and dressing up all the soldiers
Starting point is 01:02:50 and having that level of battle be better than have them spend way more money on the dragons and wolves. I feel like that's where the money is going, because whenever you look at the wardrobe and the costumes, I feel like they're top-notch. I never look at them and think the only time that I've ever heard any fans talk about it was euron's costume in the first
Starting point is 01:03:08 episode they and they just thought it was too modern to it from like the battle point of view but you know exactly what i'm talking about where you're watching an action movie and yeah all the guards and the close-up soldiers look really good but then it gets to battle and you see two lines of depth and then it's just clearly not even real people like not real or they're like in adidas and their sweatpants it seems like they have a lot of copies of that Lannister army the the sort of crimson and gold plate armor it seemed whenever I see that I kind of look closely and it looks like it has nice detail I know the Queen's armor I like it a lot if you can call it that I sort of a dress armor thing where she's got those silver shoulder pads
Starting point is 01:03:49 with the chains connecting. I think that's fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, that was PKN 154. I had fun. I was excited this episode.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yep. Much more Game of Thrones talk to come on Thursday. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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