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All right, PKN episode 172. We were just getting all worked up before the show started.
Yeah, so much that Woody just had to get it going.
I interrupted what you guys were talking about, so you can just jump right back into it.
Well, apparently a black man moved into Taylor's building and he is livid.
Oh man, not that. That was just for the pre-show.
And he's Filipino. Doesn't make any better though.
No, no. he well he'll still
understand the burning cross like we talked about hey taylor i think your math is off though like
if he ruins the property value wouldn't he just lower your rent that's true yeah yeah because i
don't own yeah yeah four filipinos in here i'm gonna get jorge and the rest of the gang. All of them. Oh, that's terrible.
Oh, no.
So is Wings on the subreddit?
I just saw a copy paste in the Skype.
Can you tell me which post it is?
Because I don't know.
It's the one that says something about Wings losing $100,000 because...
Oh, that one?
Yeah, there's like 190 comments or something okay well is he talking about like
on his trucks no because he got fired from the show i'm about 120 comments behind then you know
because oh my god like like and he what did he reply to me he said something like he said that
he said quote i guess if i'm gonna say quote basically he said that i said to
his face that we never intended to bring him back because i posted a comment on there that said
you know we didn't kick you off we we suspended him you know and then in the but but but he he
proved us quickly um he quickly proved to us, afterwards that we'd made a good decision.
That is what I percent true. Can I jump in? Yeah, there's a hundred percent true. I did. Um,
there was a moment of weakness I had, like one time he made a video and I remember he was like,
yeah, you know, all the things they said I did, I did. He's like, and I don't know why,
like, I don't wake up and think I'm going to be an asshole today.
It just kind of happens.
And, you know, like, I'm going to grow from this.
And I was like, wow, like, you know,
maybe this guy comes back.
That was my thinking at the time.
He was like, I don't wake up saying I'm going to be an asshole.
I just do it.
And, like, you know, I don't know.
Like, in my case, my biggest, I think Kyle's, I hate to put words in his mouth, his biggest frustration was the survival trip.
For me, it had been growing for a long time.
Like all sorts of, like little betrayals and comments about me and stuff that struck deep and people considered him a reliable source, even though things he would say were wildly untrue.
source even though things he would say were wildly untrue and i think for lefty putting words in his mouth his biggest thing was like while we were doing the trip wing streamed and talked mad shit
about us like while we were you know in the woods and uh so we all like we all agreed with each
other but the the core of our reasons weren't exactly lined up and uh yeah he just i forgot how i got there i just started
ranting but but he says like here's the thing this happens in business a lot right like you know
three people start up twitter or facebook or whatever one of them gets fired and then after
he leaves the place starts succeeding and suddenly he's like, you know what? Really, I deserve all of that success.
Like Breaking Bad.
Yeah.
Breaking Bad, did that happen?
Yeah, with Gray Matter or whatever his company was when he left.
And then they got super successful.
Right?
Am I totally making that up?
No, you're right.
You're right.
Yeah.
But I think that in that case, didn't Walter White invent the whole thing?
Maybe there are parallels there.
Maybe he actually did.
I don't know.
Okay, then never mind.
Sorry for derailing.
Go ahead.
Oh, he deleted his comment.
Oh, did he?
After Wings left, really I think what happened was
it wasn't so much Wings leaving that made the show successful,
although that could be part of it.
It was replacing Heather with Chiz.
I feel like that is what started turning
things around. And he deleted most of his comments. Okay. It's hard to quote him correctly now. But
what he said was that, so I replied to someone and, and I was like, just to be clear, we didn't
kick him off. We suspended him and, you know, and we were going to reevaluate his situation within,
you know, a few months.
And I said something like,
but he quickly showed us that we'd made the right decision.
And then he replies, he's like,
no, you told me to my face like two months later
that you've never intended to bring me back.
And I'm like, in my head, I'm like,
the cholesterol has infected your brain.
You're either lying or you're just playing. Did you even see him in person two months later?
No, no.
But I politely said, I don't remember things that way.
No, you're right and he's wrong.
Of course.
That was always the plan, to sort of suspend him
and see how things worked out, you know?
Yeah. But i don't know
i you know here we are like keeping it going a part of me wishes it would just die and end up
uh but a part i don't just silly way soon if he goes to tijuana
i i you tell me about that that that has to be i got all the nitty-gritty details on that so
he uploaded a video i don't know like the big details about weight loss surgery but i saw
somebody saying like it was like a three-day thing which is like i know that no surgeon no
reputable surgeons would be like yeah go ahead and fly your 500 pound body down here we'll get
you cut up real quick get it going give you a nice 18 to 26 hours of rest,
and then you're back on that plane to the States.
That's not true.
No, right?
So I don't know about his surgery.
There's no way.
And my understanding is these belly surgeries,
whatever it is, are some of the worst to come back from.
But stuff goes more and more outpatient all the time.
C-sections get out of the hospital the next day.
When I had my um yeah but not on to six i went home that night you know and well the next day or two days later i took a six-hour flight you know with that yeah but you know you don't want
yeah you got your crutches you know house weight they're gonna cut his stomach in half
i hear you i hear you and you know i did lead did lead in with gastrointestinal surgeries, one of the tougher to come back from.
Boogie's recovery seemed like it was very difficult, right?
Three months later, he still wasn't in some ways as good as he was before.
Now he's losing weight, but there were ways in which he was still suffering from the surgery.
So three days, that might be really hard i don't know so
he weighs about 540 especially because real quick like you already know it's a bad idea because
boogie talked about how when he was like 500 and whatever pounds he would go to expensive american
surgeons and be like i'll fucking pay you to do this and they're like i can't i literally can't
you're too fat you have to get down to like 470 or whatever before we can do it.
So they're going to ship him to Tijuana at a weight that no American surgery would do this.
And then surgery and then back on the fucking Southwest flight? No.
I don't hate this as much as you guys do.
I want to hear Kyle's details that we don't have, but I won't be more than 10 seconds.
But I am saying we're talking
about life or death and even if the life is a bit of a long shot or not so great like
there is a huge risk of not doing it as well kyle please tell us what you know so he made a video
and uh he's talking about this thing and it was you know he cries at the end of it and and of
course there's no donation
link in there like like like absurd like you should totally have a donation link at the end
but basically what he said was he had like i don't know 8 10 grand of money saved up uh the surgery
cost 24 25 grand to get done in his homeland of south carolina but it sounds to me like like what
i like took I took from listening
between the lines. His mother had this surgery
done in Tijuana.
She's
pushing him to do this thing.
He pulls up the website
for this thing, and at the top of the website
it says...
I'll get it.
It's like surgery tours.
Yeah, man. I'll get it for you. like surgery tours. I'd love to poke around. Yeah, man.
I'll get it for you.
I'm going to pick a surgery that I want.
Oh, let's all go.
Wow, yeah.
I've lost weight and still got a little.
So he says.
Mexican laser hair removal.
Oh, God.
There you go.
We have skinned you well.
What?
So he's. He wants to... He's going to get two plane tickets
because of his size
and fly to San Diego.
And then he gets picked up
at the airport in San Diego
by a car.
Speedy gone Uber.
Yeah.
I think the car is provided by the the clinic
and uh and they'll drive him to tijuana the the home place of fine surgical treatment
and and he'll spend one night in a marriott as he said and um hang on the The website, I'm trying to read it off his video.
My big question is, will he notify them that he's backing out or just not show?
Maybe not show and claim that he notified them.
I don't know.
In this situation, not showing is probably the better move.
Because you were saying, it's life and death.
But it's like, yeah, this could be the death.
Like, the decision.
Kyle's still going. I don't mean to step all over him.
Yeah, go ahead, Kyle. Sorry about that. Don't worry about the website if you can't get it. No worries. I have it.
I think this doesn't look like
the homepage, but it is the URL.
Maybe you just have to dig around on this website
to find the exact page
he was on. But in any case, what a big
URL.
So, he spends one night in that marriott and then the next morning they pick him up take him to the hospital do some
blood tests and then right into the or do the surgery that day then back to the marriott for
two nights then back to san diego and on a flight to south carolina and it's all said and done he did
say however i'm probably gonna lose my belly button you know gonna because you lose your
belly button it because you you lose your belly button with surgeries like this and i was like
wait wait what what what what wait no that's whoa no that doesn't make any sense so what i gleaned from this was his mother doesn't have a belly button now and
and uh i can just see them with the belly button like what are we doing it that's a valid inference
we cut off too much just putting that in there you never know yeah this uh so i'm thinking that
you you generally shouldn't lose your belly button in this surgery, though, right?
Probably not.
I think that.
If you've got that much stomach skin to work with, why go, why lop off the belly button?
Yeah, I think they go, I think he's, maybe he's confused, maybe not.
But, like, I would imagine they do this surgery through the belly button.
Like, they go in through the belly button so they're not cutting you open.
And they do it that way.
I can't
remember the surgical term but um it's uh yeah i was baffled by that part of the thing and then he
pulls up this chart of like possible weight loss but it's in percentages for like i don't know a
medium fat person and he's like you see look at this chart i could not be a fat dude by the summer and i'm
just like you're talking about losing like 200 he thinks he can lose 270 pounds in like six
months or something like that like like 270 pounds in six months you know how you should
you should watch his video in your free time it's entertaining june 6 is six months away
right get your beach body now. You've got six months.
You'll be able to have a six-pack by D-Day.
He's got a beached body.
That's fucking mean-spirited.
I was preparing to make way more fun of this website and these doctors they do look
reputable i'll be fair like i'm looking at their like bio pages and they seem like they're totally
fine surgeons like i know that a lot of people go to tijuana for dental but it seems like there's a
chasm between a dental thing and rearranging your insides and perhaps losing a
belly button when you weigh so much that they would not even consider this in the u.s that's
the american premium you get to keep your belly button yeah it's 20 grand but you do look like a
human afterwards yeah i have a friend who goes to costa rica for his dental work and he's been very happy with it although
he did say this he said that in Costa Rica they like it's just um standard procedure there to do
things without painkillers that you would use a lot of painkillers for here and you just sort of
tolerate it and you know it doesn't kill you and you just wait and it stops hurting after some time
and it was like oh man i don't know i'll just pay the extra here yeah
yeah i can't imagine like i once i can't imagine getting like my little thing done like my tooth
pulled without painkillers because he was rooting around in there violently like it was like when
you're trying to get a nail out that the head has kind of bent up on
and you're just like,
like he was in there like going to town.
It took him maybe 30 seconds.
They'd have to give you painkillers for pulling it.
Like if I were in Kyle's mouth
trying to pull a tooth out
and he doesn't have painkillers,
he'd have to be strapped down
like I was torturing him.
And I would be torturing him.
He'd be,
I might be misunderstanding.
I think, though,
he might have been talking about the painkillers
that you use to treat pain over the next few days.
Oh.
Oh, that's a different case.
That would suck, too, though.
I've never really gotten prescribed those painkillers,
so I guess I don't...
They were so helpful,
because, like, whenever they would, like,
wear off, like, you know,
six or eight hours after taking a couple,
it was like, ooh, ooh, okay.
I waited too long to take more.
All right, we need to take more now.
It was definitely noticeable.
About the wings thing, so as far as PKA doing better after him leaving
or getting fired or whatever you want to call it
and voted off the island maybe.
I don't know.
Cisco stock has gone up a lot since I left.
I don't feel entitled to their success after I quit.
That's not how it works, right?
Yeah.
That's just not how it works.
I feel you.
So that's a thing.
As far as the surgery, I don't know.
I don't think it's as crazy as you guys think it is.
One of us is right.
I'm not sure who.
But to me, if I weigh 540 pounds and my choice is working on 575 by next Christmas
or working on 2755 I would roll the dice
yeah if that's the choice but
I don't think that is the choice I think that he's
going to like blow his new stomach out anyway
well that's possible
yeah I think that's what will happen
and he'll be lucky if he survives
and he's going to I really
and I replied to him I was like
good luck in Tijuana I hope you
vlog it because those would be such.
Oh, did you talk to him?
Well, in that Reddit reply, I replied to him.
And somebody was like, you're so two-faced.
You're so mean to him on the show, but you're polite here.
And I was like, well, come on.
It's a little common courtesy.
I'm not going to be like, hey, chubby-dubby, hope you die in Tijuana.
On Reddit, I'm actually corresponding with him
right here. Like, you know, when I make fun of him
here, when I talk about his beached body,
which is fucking hilarious. That is fucking hilarious.
Well done. Thank you.
It's to make
people laugh, you know? You told me
that I had a professional
comedian's joke at the Hangout,
and I can't recall what it was
in the slightest.
Oh, you know. It'll come to us after this ends yeah yeah it was really well like phrased or worded or set up
yeah it was it was very funny what you said i can't recall what it is um but but but yeah you
know like like i i don't want the guy to die. I want him to prosper,
I suppose, or at least
subsist.
I don't like the thing...
Like, I know...
I mean, I'm not as up on it as you guys, obviously,
but it's my understanding that he is kind of
feeling like, well, it's either life or death.
I'm going to die from overeating, or I'm going to
live by fixing it.
And there's no way I can fix it in any way.
That's not invasive surgery.
Top comment on that video.
But you've already made that assumption.
And so of course,
like if you've already got that baseline thought in your head of like,
I've tried willpower before.
I could never do it.
I can't,
I need surgery.
Like then of course,
willpower is going to fail you.
I'm on team wings.
I know it sounds crazy,
right?
But I,
but at this weight,
he will die if he tries to get the surgery.
Or he'll likely die. There's a reason they don't do
that shit when you're that heavy. It's too dangerous.
Okay. You make a lot of sense, right?
And Boogie, I do know some of the numbers.
Boogie weighed like 540
or something. It might be right where Wings is now.
And they made him crack 500.
They might have weighed at 507 or something.
But really, he had to lose like 50 pounds to get
the surgery.
So Wings would be coming in at 540, I guess.
Is that what you said he weighed?
540?
Yeah, I think so.
So that's high.
I'll grant you that.
But I feel like Wings has wanted to lose weight since I met him like seven years ago, something like that.
And he's done nothing but grow. Oh, yeah, fat people always want to lose weight. There's no fat person who doesn't want to lose weight. I met him seven years ago, something like that. And he's done nothing but grow.
There's no fat person who doesn't want to lose weight.
I agree.
I didn't even mean to make that noise.
It's the noise it makes when wings
get off the toilet seat.
I agree.
They all want to lose weight.
But I just – I don't know.
He has some kind of addiction.
And I know people deny that there's an eating addiction or food addiction at all.
But call it a psychological addiction.
Like people are addicted to games or the internet or it's definitely an addiction yeah yeah he has shown no signs of being able to crack it
with just mental fortitude and and his time with what is the furthest he ever got down
since you guys have known him like 405 that's that's where he was like he left my house at
like i mean uh i should have clarified that better like what is the biggest
Amount you've seen him lose of course. He's regained it all but like what back in like 2011 2012
Maybe maybe yeah, he he got prescribed
Amphetamines or like some sort of diet pills from a doctor and he dropped like 50 pounds or so in pretty rapid succession
And then at my house he lost lost about 30, 35 pounds in a month.
I do want to toss out, though, that the 50 pounds was Wings telling us,
and the 30, 35 pounds was Kyle measuring.
So they might not be the same thing.
Very true.
That's fair.
Yeah, I just wanted to get a feel for if there ever was a big success or not.
And I'm not sure if he's weighing himself.
He's probably guessing his weight right now.
I don't think his scale goes above 500 pounds.
Do most scales, how high do scales go?
When you start asking that question, you know you're on the wrong side of the scale.
How high do standard scales go?
I think the answer is 300
because every so often I'll want to
you know what, I don't know
you gotta go to a livestock barn
oh you can get a 450 pound
scale
expensive
oh this isn't at all
$29.95 for a 500 pound digital bath scale
we got him one of those when he did
the boot camp. We used
some of those monies that were raised
to get him a new scale that would
get him to where
he wanted to go.
I thought it would be more expensive than that.
Yeah, you would. I think standard ones
cap at 300. There's a
stupid paramotor thing, but people like to measure the
thrust, and it's hard
to measure how hard something's pushing so you can stand on a bit stand on a scale point the
paramotor down and rev it up but usually like if you're my size anyway yeah 198 i think right now
um you'll crack 300 with the weight of the motor and the thrust and it won't work you need a special scale that makes sense yeah but um
maybe if you hooked i was i don't know i was thinking about those scales that you do for fish
and stuff that like pull um maybe one of those could be used i've got a very heavy duty one of
those that we used to measure our bow uh or like archery uh bow um pull you know you can adjust that pull with
some allen keys and so you'd hook the string onto the thing and pull down and watch the scale till
it peaked out to like figure out where you had your bow set it's hard to connect to the back
though like i think you need to measure how you push it maybe maybe me on rollerblades with the
scale on the wall pushing it i like the idea of you on the roller
blades without the wing and the oh trust you i thought of that or like i'll be longboarding i
do that for crappy cardio and uh i'm like you know am i getting good enough at this to break
out the paramotor yet that would be like like get in a big parking lot and oh and like i just imagine you kind of
crouching a little with that wingsuit that walter that um uh from from malcolm in the middle that he
when he was speed walking i don't know if you remember the low drag yeah yeah yeah walking suit
to your drop shape helmet and everything yeah that has bad decision written all over it but
good video good video and bad decision Sometimes they're the same thing.
Anyway, I don't know
how to put a period on the end of the
Wings topic.
I looked at his channel and it looks like
he's actually looking for advice
from people on it.
If he ever listens to this and seriously wants
advice, do not go
to Tijuana for surgery
at this point. I just i just typed in on google
tijuana surgery and the and i've never googled that before and i've never googled anything even
remotely similar to that so i know it's not google directing me in a direction and the first thing was
horror stories surgery horror stories and then i entered that and it was all and it was a bunch
of bariatric things.
And it's like, dude, and also because if you get that surgery there, like, Boogie had enough
trouble and he was going back for outpatient and like, you know, going back in and visiting
and they're like, alright, are you eating right?
Okay, well you're not, let me take your fluids.
Okay, well you're not eating nearly enough of this or that and the other thing.
You need to do more of this, less of that.
Like he's not gonna have that.
He's gonna get back here and be left to his own devices.
And within two weeks, without any instruction from a medical professional, he's probably going to accidentally rupture his stomach on liquid or food.
Even if he's great with his food, he might just drink too much tea or something.
First of all, I'm totally on Team Taylor with regards to he needs to set up
someone locally that can help him in an emergency or answer some questions.
He'll need some guidance.
He can't just get a surgery in Mexico some questions. He'll need some guidance.
He can't just get a surgery in Mexico and then handle the rest on his own.
That's a recipe for disaster.
But I'm not on Team Taylor with the idea that Tijuana is a bad idea entirely because I'm pretty convinced that his path isn't going to change without it,
and his path is awful.
Yeah, I'm with you there.
Now, I agree on that point
um i hope he goes and i hope he vlogs at all because he's going to be in first of all the
flying thing will just be a nightmare for him it's going to be crazy like like he i i know how
his mind works and he hasn't he doesn't have any forethought so like he's not thinking about the
lines at the airport that you have to stand in
like we've all been in the rat maze at the airport before secure like at security at the metal
detectors and stuff he's not thinking about having to take his shoes off and then walking through a
you know a detection device like like he won't be able to do these things and then of course there's
you know the boarding like when he's got to go between those aisles all sweaty and finally
sit down excuse me those those seats are mine there you know and like like make the person moved
i i bet he'll struggle at booking the flights and knowing how to get two seats together and and
might not have the forethought to think maybe i should take the window and the middle so that some poor son of a bitch isn't against the window with me in the middle in the aisle.
And then I'm partially in the aisle and suffocating someone.
Like, he may not have the forethought for these things.
Like, I'm super considerate with things like this.
So, like, if I'm him, these are the things on the top of my mind.
Not on his though no no
oh i thought there was a break the pain the pain that he's going to be in is going to be crippling
and and there will probably won't be prescription like painkillers for the after effects and
everything but just rooting around in there causes such like tissue bruising and damage.
It's going to be excruciating.
It's going to be like he got hit,
beaten the stomach with a baseball bat,
except there's going to be some sort of weird incision and stitches perhaps
where his belly button used to be.
It's,
it's going to be a goddamn nightmare.
And just,
just two days in a Marriott,
he won't be able to feed himself
there'll be no one to bring him food while he's in that hotel is that the problem can i jump in
that's sure so the short side topic i interrupted kyle too much in the hangout list this weekend
and i'm trying to improve because i i recognize i did it way too much this many anyway um i have
two things one i was in that same position where I couldn't feed myself because of the broken leg.
It just made it hard to get around.
And it was really fragile, which was another – like I had to – it was like a crystal thing.
So all I could do is have Pizza Hut delivered to me.
Wings cannot eat Pizza Hut right after gastric bypass surgery.
That cheesy, bready thing is the worst.
I bet some Tijuana Mexican food will sit nice and gentle in there.
Oh, no. I didn't even process that.
That would be terrible.
Well, maybe he'll just go to his Tijuana sink and get a big glass of water.
Oh, God. I didn't think of that.
Oh, my God. There's so much to process here.
You know, you were fussing at Wings about not really thinking ahead on this whole thing.
I would have to sit down with a notebook because there are some things to plan for in this.
Tea on water is a good way to lose weight.
I went to California with Wings of Redemption.
It was for the Billionaire's Challenge a couple years ago.
Now, he was 26 then.
I don't know.
I think he's more or less the same guy now.
He was very uncomfortable being away from home.
It was like a level of anxiety and dread that most people don't exist in.
You know?
Yeah.
It was always there in his mind, nonstop.
Like, I wish I was home.
I wish I could get home.
Well, I've never left Philly before.
He didn't like the flight so much.
He was like, maybe I could – you know what?
I think I could just go get a rental car and start driving home right now.
We hadn't even done the event yet.
He was going to bail on the event, get a rental car, and drive from Beverly Hills to Conway, South Carolina because he just wanted to start getting home.
I should have done that thing.
It would have been worth it to have – I should that thing. It would have been worth it to have...
I should have went.
It would have been worth it just to have seen wings go through all this.
That is really sad to hear.
I didn't know that that's how that trip went.
That does make me feel bad for him.
Yeah, yeah.
If you're willing to be like, okay, I'm going to drive...
How far is a drive from there to Conway, South Carolina?
It's about 3,000 miles.
Is it 37 hours, would you say?
Two days of driving?
It's about 3,000 miles.
I think it's three days of driving.
Los Angeles.
I mean, it's coast to coast, literally.
Because, like, L.A., the beach is right there, right?
Because everybody should be having fun at this event.
Conway is Myrtle Beach.
It's from the east shore to the west shore
to the east shore.
It's literally about
as far as it gets. I'm going to guess
2,900, 3,100 miles.
Oh, wow. It is literally
37 hours.
I nailed it this whole time.
Jesus Christ.
At the end of the day, 37 hours
that he was willing to go through
just because he was so oh he by the way you gotta break that into like four 10 hour days right yeah
and he would have no concept of of the distance anyway like what was it that was upsetting him at
the uh at the whatever it was was that the billionaire that was the billionaire thing
yeah there's a billionaire challenge alky david did a thing i think it was. Was that the billionaire? That was the billionaire thing? Yeah, there's a billionaire challenge. Alki David did a thing.
I think it was twofold.
I think part of it was he just the airplane trip itself.
Like he was big and the person next to him was like protesting almost like, oh, my God, I had to sit next to him.
And it hurt his feelings a lot.
I think the other part of it was just sort of a I've spent very little time more than like six miles from my house and now i'm 30 no 2500 miles from my house and that like he did he can't just exist comfortably thousands of miles
from home yeah he had a hard time existing 300 miles from home like that was something that you
know he was he was like that here that might tie into why he missed the survival trip. I didn't even think of that until just now.
Like, oh my god, a state away.
Wait,
the survival trip was where?
North Carolina.
The Uari National Wilderness Area.
In North Carolina. He lives in South Carolina,
so I don't buy that.
It was like four or five hours.
There is no state more similar
to South Carolina than North Carolina.
It's like, well, it's not that far it has the same second part you know he had this comment he said kyle
left ahead of woody i told woody two days before the trip was going to happen that i wasn't going
i object to that yeah can i tell my side of it it is true that not just two days also like five
days in one week.
And on the show,
he said he didn't want to go.
And then I would give him pep talks and never did a talk finish without him
promising to go.
Right.
He'd be like,
I'm not going to be like wings.
You got to do this.
It's going to be great.
You want to experience new things.
You want to rise to new heights.
You want to,
you'll have content for your channel.
We're all going to be posting this stuff collectively.
They'll be crossing it.
Like this is going to be a really great thing for everybody involved and everybody
watching. And I would sell him on the idea and he'd be like, okay, okay, I'm back in, I'm back in.
So for him to be like, I told Woody I wasn't going. Yes. Yeah. He told me two days before
and a week before and he told me on the show. And someone took my speech to him and put like
motivational music to the back of it. I don't know if you guys have seen that um you know
it was one of those and then at the end of it he's back in and you know for a guy who's always
complaining about money like that first survival trip cemented in the ability for us to do the
second survival trip we got paid enough in the second survival trip to do your fucking surgery bro how much is the
surgery in America 25 grand that much in Mexico I think is oh four grand yeah you
get what you pay for that's like telling me that you can't tell the difference
between a Morton's to use Kyle's favorite example steak which is probably
like $60 or target you know an Outback Steakhouse flank sturt steak
that they generally would slice up into
to use for the fajita meat,
but they just kept together for your eating pleasure.
Like, no.
Man, I would not get a surgery like that in Mexico.
I posted that...
We should probably even watch it.
Let me find the clip.
There's probably way less accountability
for the surgeons, too. Oh, there's none the clip. There's probably way less accountability for the surgeons too.
Oh,
there's none.
Every time there's a dust up about it,
like all my wishes are like,
let's just make everything truthful.
I feel like if everyone knows all the facts,
then I come out smelling like a rose.
It's not until wings is saying like all these untruths,
you know,
and what do you say?
The show cost him a hundred grand.
And then people are
like reverse justifying it like opportunity costed him or something yeah but then they made him like
like at first he was kind of making it sound like he quit and then people were like no you got
fucking kicked off and he's like yeah i got kicked off and you know there was a whole back and forth
with the way he reinvents history for him to say PKA cost him 100 grand is like me saying Bitcoin cost me millions.
Millions.
Millions.
Let's watch this clip.
I promise it's super relevant.
I'm loading it.
I know exactly this clip.
I do not.
I posted this on the subreddit after.
Yeah, that's where I saw it. Yeah. I'm not. I posted this on the subreddit after... Yeah, that's where I saw it.
Yeah.
I'm ready.
I'm not.
Oh, there we go.
Ready, set, play.
Hi, everybody!
Hi, Dr. Nick!
Now, there are many options available
for dangerously underweight individuals like yourself.
This is Wink's Mexican Doctor.
I recommend a slow, steady gorging process
combined with asshole horizontology.
Asshole horizontology?
You'll want to focus on the neglected food groups,
such as the ripped group, the congealed group,
and the chocotastic. What can I do to speed the whole thing groups, such as the ripped group, the congealed group, and the chocotastic.
What can I do to speed the whole thing up, Doctor?
Be creative. Instead of making sandwiches with bread, use Pop-Tarts.
Instead of chewing gum, chew bacon.
You could brush your teeth with milkshakes.
Hey, did you go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College, too? And remember, if you're not sure about something,
rub it against a piece of paper.
If the paper turns clear, it's your window to weight gain.
Bye-bye, everybody.
That's Dr. Nick.
And then, of course, Troy McClure comes up,
and then you just start thinking everything in his voice.
It's like, hi, I'm Troy McClure.
Oh, yeah.
That's Phil Hartman's voice.
You may remember him from such educational films.
He was murdered.
He was, by his wife.
Yeah, by his wife.
I don't know his full name,
but Fry from Futurama was named after Philip Hartman.
His name is, like, Philip J. Fry or something like that.
Oh.
I didn't know that. I saw it on Reddit
a couple weeks ago. Hartman was
very funny. It was a shame.
Yes. So I guess
that's the Wings topic. I think you should roll the
dice and make a change because
I'm pretty certain
where our current trajectory takes us
and it's death at around 40.
Is that
kind of what Wings is thinking? I think he's thinking death at around 40. Is that kind of what Wings is thinking?
I think he's thinking death at 45.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, we got it.
We got it, Mr. Ham-handed.
Oh, I don't know.
I don't even know how to talk about this.
And I probably shouldn't, but it's PKN where we say anything.
My mother-in-law is not doing well.
And I don't feel like I can.
Imagine you're in the military on the front lines, right?
Oh, no. on the front lines, right? You might adopt a sense of humor or some jokes
or just thoughts of yours that people back home
would just never understand, right?
You know, inappropriate behaviors or something.
Sometimes, we're caregivers, and I think she's not gonna live
and the way this has gone is it's kind of like she takes two steps back,
one step forward, two steps back, one step forward.
And for a while, you hope, like, she's pulling through.
Like, you know, all right.
You know, a step forward, you get excited about it.
Until it gets so bad that it's almost like last night, for example,
she had so much pain.
She didn't get any sleep and she's not feeling well today.
How old is she again?
77.
Okay.
And I don't know.
It just, it's on my mind a lot.
The fact that she's about to drop.
And it's, you know what the worst part of it is?
There's a transition from when you stop hoping she'll get better
and you start hoping that her suffering is over.
Yeah.
And that transition has happened.
And I don't know.
It's just heavy.
In Jackie's mind, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, of course, she's conflicted.
If you gave her the option for her mom to just be 40 again and live with us for the rest of her life as peers in age, she would take that.
But that's not on the menu.
What's on the menu is either passing now or suffering a lot and passing a few months from
now.
And pick one of those.
Maybe some aqua-robics and then we go inside for a little while.
I heard they have surgeries in Tijuana.
Hey, if you really want to speed a process along,
how about sending her for gastric bypass surgery in Tijuana?
I guarantee she doesn't live through the week.
I have a friend.
So you probably don't watch my paramotor videos,
but for people that do, he was just in one.
He's the guy that broke his prop.
Good looking guy with gray hair.
Anyway, he's like one year ahead of us in this process.
His mom died a year ago and he also like cared for her in her final months and stuff like that.
And the hospice people come.
He's like, did you get the red box yet?
We have, but ours is white.
And it's filled with lots of drugs lots of drugs the ones you
might like i don't know morphine and i don't really know my drugs that well but the good
shit is in there and his hospice workers i think i've said this before here there they're like you
know this stuff isn't really tracked you know if she's having a really hard time and you give her the rest
of the morphine,
that happens.
You're not trained.
It's like, oh my God.
You're not trained.
You wouldn't want to do it one time,
two time, three time, four time, five time.
They gave him
assisted suicide instructions
almost.
Just like my mother-in-law like this isn't a you know 12 year old battling for this is a 77 year old
and uh um but we didn't get that speech what we did get was the disposal they're like yeah so
like you can i forget what our choices were. I just remember the most attractive
one was to go to the police
and be like... Put her out by the curb.
No, these are the drugs.
You take the white box and you give it to the
police and you're like, you know,
we don't need morphine anymore.
But...
The garbage man would be like...
Woohoo!
Win!
Yeah,
but apparently,
I meant the body.
Oh,
you were putting the body there.
Yeah.
You were doing my disposal.
I thought you meant the body.
and I had all these terrible thoughts.
You definitely don't want to give those drugs back.
There has to be a positive from this.
She's on a,
the hospice came in
and gave her a hospital bed.
So that bed is next to the queen-size bed.
Do you replace a mattress because someone died in the same room?
No.
Not in the same room.
No, you just flip it.
See, you're on the same page.
I don't know.
Somehow that seems inappropriate, but I have thoughts like that too
I don't think there's a reason to throw it away
Just like totally cleanse that one side
Flip it and
Don't mention it to anybody who sleeps there
She's just on the bed next to it
We had the same discussion about the mattress
Wing slept on while I was here
Oh Jesus
What did you do you just flipped it
That's the guest
room it is the guest house yeah yeah same line of thinking um is uh you're saying how like you
and jackie are kind of in the mode of like all right this should probably just end soon she's
doing more suffering and there's no chance of recovery uh your mother-in-law herself is she
kind of expressing that in a way like no i'm getting
real tired of this like this sucks she doesn't have a steady um opinion on that you know some
days yes you know some days she'd be like you know what it's time uh other times no like even Other times, no. Like even now, she hasn't signed a DNR yet, right?
I'm going to try.
I'm going to miss some.
She has cancer in her stomach, her kidney, her liver, her lymph nodes,
her colon, her vagina.
What else is in your belly?
Your uterus?
I don't know that one for sure.
Stomach. The colon. Stomach I mentioned. Pancreas. Liver? belly uh you heard uterus i'm not even i don't know that one for sure stomach well the colon
stomach i mentioned um pancreas i'm not sure about pancreas i think liver oh it's in her bones i
don't know which ones but she has not bone cancer yeah literally she has her back is broken in like
four places um because it's it's weak from having cancer in cancer in it and uh so i went to cvs and bought
her like a 30 brace because what do you do in a situation like this um and uh uh soon what's
going to happen is she needs someone to be with her at night. And I think what happens is Jackie just starts sleeping next to her.
Oh, that's so sad.
Isn't it?
Yeah, that's really, really sad.
I think, you know...
You know what the hospice says?
Again, I feel like people are going to judge us,
but they say this.
They say, if she dies,
don't call anyone right away because if she's still
warm and stuff they'll try to resuscitate her and they might yeah so let her get cold and then call
and it's just like like the reality of that yeah how long does it take a body to get cold after
you die i don't know it couldn't be more than an hour.
Yeah, Google's gonna know.
My turkey stayed hot for a while.
At least on the inside, right Kyle?
I don't know.
If it were myself
in this situation,
it would be morphine time for me.
I'd be like, go ahead and take all...
Two to six hours is when rigor mortis sets in.
Two to six hours.
It's faster than I would have thought.
Yeah, I wonder...
I bet if it's an hour, though,
they can tell it's beyond resuscitation.
Oh, yeah.
Like if she's cool with a and also and i'm just making this
up but i have a feeling that if you see her she's like she's 77 she's lost all this weight she's in
the 90s now like uh weight wise um they probably would just each body uh yeah right i've been
teasing her about her bikini body for ages she's all thin and uh
but if it was like an 11 year old they would just pull out all the stops even if it was dead for an
hour you know start cpr yeah there were i was there we were talking about dnr and taylor asked
um if you know where she is on she hasn't signed a dnr yet which i haven't contributed my opinion
but i'm like i would i would sign that dnr and the reason why is what she's effectively doing
is making jackie do it you know she's like i don't know i'm just not ready to sign a dnr and
it's like oh so you're passing that responsibility on to your daughter. That's cool.
You know?
Well, how hard
could her signature be, Woody?
At this point, I think I could just put
the pen in my mouth and forge it.
It's kind of a mess.
Dark.
I'm thinking about death a lot. i've been on the front lines for a
year now yes like uh i've i've uh i've been pretty sick the last few days like ever uh
but um after our hangout uh on sunday when i was gonna have that girl over at like four like all
day i'd been feeling like a little shitty but i was like i had a bunch of people over and i drank
last night it's probably just a hangover like it'll go away by like four she'd text me and be
like hey i got caught up at a family thing i'll be there like at six instead i'm like all right
that's fine between like four and five and like 5 30 like i started getting like you know the hot sweats and
the shakes like when you start getting the flu you know like when you or like i'm sneezing my
ass off a cough and my throat hurts my head is killing me and i had to eventually text her and
be like hey you know if we end up hooking up tonight you're gonna get really really sick and
she's like thanks for letting me know let's do it another time i was like all right and so i
continue to get sicker and sicker.
Woke up on Monday and was incapacitated, or on Sunday rather, and was incapacitated all day.
Like I just laid in my bed sweating my ass off feeling like I was going to vomit or, you know, like coughing so hard.
Have you ever coughed so hard you feel like you're going to throw up just from the force of the cough?
Oh, yeah.
Where it's like it's just such one itchy spot.
The sweats, the hot, the cough where it's like it like it's just such one itchy spot the sweat you can't
the hot the cold like you almost forget how terrible being sick is if you haven't been sick
lately it's awful i you i totally empathize because like i'd i'd had just minor colds for
so long that's like that's what being sick is like when you get like the flu or a bad head cold
where like you're sweating your ass off but you're also like you feel freezing
like that's the worst feeling in the world because i have to sleep with blankets on and so i i woke
up for the last three nights like just soaked yeah it's the worst but uh and then yesterday
the creme de la creme on this sick thing which i'm feeling better now thankfully but yesterday
i was still a little bit sick i had to wake up up at 4.45, fly to Tampa all day for work,
and then didn't get home until like 10 last night,
so that was a fun woo-hoo.
Anyway, all this to say, I've had a lot of
free time other than that the past few days because I've been sick,
and so I've been watching Hannibal
at Kyle's recommendation, and
it is really, really good.
I'm enjoying it a lot so far.
Honestly, it's a little too fucked up
to be believable in some circumstances
because it's like,
what murderer has the time for all these games?
He's like,
I'm going to kill him and then set his watch
differently so that someone will be like,
hey, I think he's leaving us a clue.
And then, of course,
Hannibal's standing right there like,
do you think so? That would be very interesting if it was.
Or even if they're all missing Hannibal's little thing, Hannibal will be like, oh, do you think so? Oh, that would be very interesting if it was. Or even like, if they're like all missing Hannibal's little thing,
Hannibal will be like,
oh, what is that?
Oh, no, nothing.
Probably nothing.
Just like four rose petals
like arranged very specifically over there.
But who knows?
I'm just a psychiatrist.
Like that kind of shit.
But the other thing
that you have to admit about the show, Kyle,
is that it's just a show about a psychic without calling him a psychic
yeah because like whatever the guy's name is will like his entire thing is like he can empathize
with anyone even if he's never met him and it's like hey that doesn't make any sense that that's
just being psychic like counselor troy he'll just go into a place where a killing was and close his eyes and feel around and be like, yes, yes, he was mad.
Will, why did he peel the skin off his fingers?
Probably because he hated him and he knew that this was a professional sewer and he wanted to insult her.
No, it was because it was his design to do it.
And he wanted to know that he could so bad just just
ridiculous nonsense has that part irritated you a bit that it's just a psychic show where they
won't admit it a little bit a little bit um i i do like that like because he's like he's on like
the spectrum and he's like super empathic so like he'll the more ever as time goes on from
especially into the second season like it
really starts to fuck with him because he's been in the heads of so many sick people that
i'm in season three now which is first two seasons very good season three things change
up quite a bit and i'm i'm not liking it very much but the first two seasons are solid
i'm season two episode seven okay yeah
what are you should watch it actually you know what probably not the best show for you right now
maybe oh actually no it probably is a great show for you right now yeah you'll learn some tips
because the whole time you'll be watching you'll be like you know this really isn't too terrible
a way to go i guess you know some of these ways that they're killing people in this show. At least the mushrooms didn't eat her.
Jeez. That was like one of
the grossest things I've seen in a show.
Like genuinely gross.
The guy, like he buried bodies in a
you explain it, Kyle.
Sorry, I feel like I'm going to cough. He found these diabetic people.
He would induce a diabetic
coma. Then he buried them in
the ground with an IV of sugar
water and an air hose and they would
be unconscious but there would be mushrooms growing off of them he turned them into living
mushroom gardens for the last like couple days of their life and like when they exhumed the bodies
they have these mushrooms growing off of them everywhere and it's really disgusting that is disgusting yeah yeah it was it was really
fucked up and most of the murders are like that level of fucked up like these people he's
investigating dexter was good that way at first like i really like the way he picked his victims
as bad guys and planned it out to get away with it and And, like, I just had some forethought. Hannibal's whole thing is whenever possible,
he elects to eat the rude.
He calls them free-range rude.
R-U-D-E?
Yes.
He doesn't like rude people.
And so he's not just picking, like,
some gentle mother of four to, like, eat up.
He's picking rude people who have sort of slighted him
in the most slight way.
The slightest of slights.
But he's like a maniac, so they're not
actually rude.
I was thinking about me and the rudeness.
The whole thing about waiters and waitresses
is actually not true.
I'm very nice to waiters and waitresses,
and I think I tip well.
But telemarketers i am genuinely
rude to uh of course a lot of them are robots now so it doesn't matter but i had a guy call me
from um toyota recently and he's just like he wasn't getting to the point and the call was like
90 seconds in.
He's like, you know, like he's trying to get me to say yes a lot.
Like, are you Matt Woodworth?
Yes.
Do you have a forerunner?
Yes.
Like, are you going somewhere with this?
Have you taken that forerunner in for service at Leaf Toyota?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where are you going with this?
What are you doing?
And
he just kept following the script.
And he would pause because I think people
don't normally give him shit during this section
of the call, but
I am rude to telemarketers.
And eventually I was like, Jesus Christ,
dude, what are you getting at?
And he's like, I'm trying to schedule a service for your car.
And I hung up.
Dick.
And I looked at the call. I called to Quick Lou because you're a cunt.
It was almost two minutes long.
He's questioning. Like, two minutes of
trying to get me to say yes repeatedly.
As if I'm some sort of fucking idiot
who doesn't see through the sales technique.
You know? Get him to say yeah.
Hey, are you Matt Woodworth?
I already know what you're up to, you dick shit.
Oh my God.
What are you trying to get from me?
Yeah, so I'm rude to telemarketers.
Yeah, that's okay.
It doesn't happen any...
I have...
They used to call during dinner.
That was like a standard telemarketer thing
because people would pick up.
People were home at six back in the 90s.
And you know, I like get up from the table
that I'm having with my wife and the phone's there.
And I was like, oh, this sounds great.
Can you hold on a minute?
And he says, yeah.
And I put the phone in the drawer and I close it
and I go back to dinner.
And Jackie is like, what are you doing?
You know, like seriously.
And she felt bad for the telemarketer.
She said, she's like, that's a person on the other end of the line just trying to make a living.
I'm like, yeah, by harassing people at dinner.
You think this isn't a plan?
This is their plan.
So we disagreed on that.
It is a plan. Telemarketing was a real motherfucker in the 90s and early 2000s.
Like, it was awful.
They called all the time.
It happened every single dinner
yeah for all number of things i think i get more spam calls than most people i get quite a few too
um it's i get a lot of uh sorry go ahead i you know it's when you sign up for something and it
requires your phone number i'm pretty sure they're selling your phone number to some bullshit.
I just don't answer it if I don't know it.
My last 30 calls, 10 were flagged.
That's a big percentage to me.
Yeah.
Probably around.
Probably not that bad, but around there.
I'm getting more and more of those people will call me and be like,
Hello, I am with your internet account.
Internet provider account. It's like, hello, I am with your internet account, internet provider account.
It's like, all right, what's my internet provider?
I am with your internet provider account
to address a problem you are having with your account.
It's like, who's my internet provider?
Hello?
And it's like, yes, I'm still here.
Who's my internet provider?
And then, of course, they can't do it.
Or they do the same thing with cell phones,
where they'll say,
we have received an issue with your PC.
Do you have a PC that you need?
And I always say, I use Mac products,
but is the problem there?
Just to see, because I don't have any Mac products.
And they'll be like, yes, yes, I apologize.
It is a Mac product.
And I'm like, you piece of shit.
No, no, it's not.
Get out of here, Pajit.
Like, no, it's not. Get out of here, Pajeet.
Mine, almost exclusively, they're talking about my student loans.
Now, fun fact about me, never had a student loan.
I paid as I went because I worked a lot and I just did like two or three classes at night.
But yeah, and usually it's an automated call, and it says it's something tied into politics.
Like it used to have somehow Obamacare was tied into student loan forgiveness.
And now they're saying Trump's tax plan has a student loan forgiveness thing that I need to take advantage of before it passes the House.
And I'm just like, it's not true. Before it passes the House.
Yeah, because my chances, my time is running out. They're like, you know, one branch of government has already passed it before the president the House. Yeah, because my chances, my time is running out.
They're like, you know,
one branch of government has already passed it
before the president signs it.
You need to take advantage of student loan forgiveness.
Yeah.
I get the calls.
They say,
hello, I'm calling from Carnival Cruises.
And we're just,
you have won a $1,500 credit.
Go on any one of this year's eight cruises
would you like to go and I'm like are you
a real fucking person he's like yes
what the fuck
I had a stroke when I was nine
I have to
emphasize or it comes out all gurgly
usually
I just hang I should play with it
more but I've had them, like
Kyle says, where I'll be like,
is this a real person?
It's programmed to
respond. Yes, I am a real
person. I'm like,
knock, knock.
Then I'll
say, who's there?
Yeah,
that's my what is it called? The touring test, that's my, what is it called?
The Turing test, I think, to see if it can fool the person on the other end into thinking it's a human.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway.
It'd be good to ask to figure out if it was a human or not.
What's your favorite food, maybe?
Yeah, I kick off with a knock-knock joke.
I think that's as good as any.
Humor's probably good, too. Siri can beat that one right what'd you say but siri can beat that one she can yeah i'm
not i'm not claiming to be a genius here kitty uh kitty got alexa and uh it's it's kind of fun i
guess um she had it downstairs in her like work room the other day and she had this lady hired
to come and like bottle a bunch of shit she was doing some busy other day and she had this lady hired to come and bottle a bunch of shit. She was
doing some busy work and she showed
this lady how Alexa works. She was like,
if you want Alexa to play
a song, just ask her. And she's like,
Alexa, play me
this, blah, blah, blah.
She was blown away by it.
She was referring to Alexa
as her and she
and I love it. I love it. She's great.
Like by the end of the day, like her and Alexa were best friends. They've been having long
conversations. That's awesome. I don't want an Alexa for that reason because it's just
too much information. It's always listening to you. Like your phone's always listening to you
too, but I don't need another device like that. I'm with Taylor on that one. That's my reason. Now I'll probably change my mind as I stop being
a troglodyte. What do they call people who hate new tech? But anyway,
I think, yeah.
Troglodyte, yeah. But I'm really, like the FBI will neither confirm nor deny that they tap into
Alexa to eavesdrop on people. I feel like put an alex in here and a nest and it happens
all the time i've seen people have facebook conversations even audio ones about cat food
it was now they don't have a cat so this was like a brand new line of conversation for them
and he and his wife were doing it on purpose and then it started showing them cat food ads
on facebook to prove that facebook was eavesdropping on their verbal
conversations. Yeah, I saw that. Oh, you saw that too. So yeah, it's creepy. I worry a lot. Like,
I just don't want, like, I don't believe even if Alexa doesn't listen to all your stuff right now
and log it and track it and such, I don't believe Google never will. I'm not sure I want to have those things listening.
Alex Jones was going off
on Alexa. He had an Alexa sitting
there and he's talking to it. He's like, Alexa,
who do you work for?
I work for you, Alex,
or something like that. He's like,
you work for the CIA, don't you?
She's like, no, I do not work.
He goes, what is the CIA?
The Central Intelligence Agency is the United States Civilian International Surveillance Service.
You work for them, don't you?
No, no.
Who created you?
Who created you?
Jeff Bezos.
He's like, who is Jeff Bezos?
Who does he work for?
He's interrogating an Alexa while it sits on his desk.
It's ridiculous.
That's pretty funny.
I used to talk to Siri every now and then on PKA
and everyone hated it.
But I thought it was genius.
We could fact check right online.
What's that Austin Powers quote where he's like,
who do you work for?
You know what I'm talking about, don't you?
Yeah, he's in the bathroom shitting.
Austin is interrogating a guy in the bathroom.
Who does this
work for?
And they're watching.
And Tom Arnold's in the other one.
Yeah, you give him hell. You tell him which one.
You tell him, buddy. And his feet are like
kicking and doing all kinds of crazy stuff
because he's being strangled to death. And Tom Arnold's like,
Jesus Christ, buddy. Hang in there, buddy.
Stay strong.
Who does number two sorry i totally just popped in my head i haven't seen that shit in a long time that's good i love
those movies especially when they came out i like i just i love those fucking movies the the gold
member one wasn't good but i really liked liked Fat Bastard. Like, the whole
Fat Bastard thing. He's like,
Ah, it's a baby!
Ah, baby!
The other white meat!
Baby! It's what's for
dinner! And there's, like, drool
coming out of his mouth. It's fucking great.
Oh, Mr.
English Colonel telling me to
lose weight.
I'm a little bummed out that uh hannibal's gonna get shitty after this season apparently yeah i you know it follows the storyline of the books loosely so if you've seen
hannibal the movie um it's the part where he's in Florence, sort of working in Florence.
Oh, okay.
The Verger guy is trying to get him so that he can torture him to death.
And so there's like a $3 million bounty on Hannibal's head.
So, eh, it's okay.
Hannibal finally catches an ass whooping it's okay. Hannibal finally catches
an ass whooping in season three. You might want to
stick in there for that, because the whole
length of the show,
Hannibal's not a big, bulking
guy. He's just always
slitting someone's jugular
or something and being quick and nimble.
But there's that scene
where he's...
You probably haven't gotten there yet. He gets in a few physical altercations, and he always comes out on top, but there's a that scene where he's you may not have you probably haven't gotten there
yet he gets he gets in a few physical altercations and he always comes out on top but there's a point
oh yeah they preview that in the beginning of season two yes there's a there's a part in season
three however where he gets his ass whooped it's great and the person doing the ass whooping is
like smarter than him like he takes his shoes off so he can like sneak around in his socks
and like comes up behind hannibal and just beats the dog shit out of him.
There's music playing during the Asswhooping.
Well, I'm looking forward to that because it's about time he got a little comeuppance.
Tell me this, though.
I can't be the only person watching this show who,
even if I had met Hannibal through a friend and I showed up at his dinner party,
I would be too uncomfortable to eat because
he puts down these ridiculous meals and you're like, what is it?
And he's like, it is a lamb put in a sheep intestine and a bunch of other things and
petals of oregano or whatever.
And then all he does is make puns about eating people.
Yes.
The entire meal.
He'll be like, oh yes, I always love having friends for dinner.
I would love to have you
over again sometime,
perhaps for,
for you to be dinner?
Yes.
And it's like,
that wasn't even a pun,
cannibal.
You're just implying
you're going to eat these folks.
They're eating tongue
at dinner at one point
and he's like,
perhaps one day
I shall eat your tongue.
And the guy's like,
what the fuck?
And the guy's like,
are you shitting me?
What's wrong with you?
Jesus. You don't say things like that?
Also, nobody ever has once gone to Hannibal's house and been like, hey, have you noticed
that 100% of the shit this guy serves is organ meat?
What's this?
Oh, it is cow kidney.
What's that?
Oh, it is a tongue of a goat.
What's that?
Oh, this is a shrew's asshole.
Like, no, it's all organ meat. goat. What's that? Oh, this is a shrew's asshole. It's all organ meat.
That's not normal. There's a lot of organ
meat. They work 24-7
trying to find these criminals who are like,
God, what are they doing with
all the organs? Well, they're clearly
taking them as trophies. That's very normal for
them to do. You want to come to dinner later?
I'm having kidney and brain
and heart.
It's like, God's like one dinner alone he serves like five hearts yeah it's like where the fuck you one of the scenes i
was watching today like blown away by how this the female psychiatrist wasn't getting it he was
standing at the cutting board cutting a human heart into pieces handing her the pieces and her just
mindlessly putting it on a skewer with like bell pepper yep it's like did you not do you think
that's what a cow's heart looks like how many hearts do you think a cow has that's not what
a pig's heart looks like either i think maybe they do because they you know sometimes they
give people pig's hearts no but they don't look the same well let's look the same. I want to see what a pig's heart
looks like. If I saw a heart that looked
enough like that, I'd be like,
where's your receipt from the butcher?
Dude, look at this pig's heart.
Did pig's heart used to be used in humans?
Yes, that's what I said.
Look at this picture of a pig's heart.
I mean, shit.
Wow. I expected it to look human-like it's coming up if anyone's watching but that is more human-like than i was calling for that just yeah those are in reality he has actual those
were pig hearts that he was cutting up because you know they're certainly not human hearts right like but yeah but also that other psychiatrist lady would not have known what a
pig heart looked like probably not and and look and i don't know why everyone's so open to eating
all this organ meat like i don't eat chicken livers meanwhile she's like oh yeah give me the
pieces of heart to put on this cure i'd be like can we go to Taco Bell one night, Hannibal? This is ridiculous.
You'll know this, though. What do you normally eat?
Is it muscle?
Yeah.
So heart would be kind of like
quad, right?
It's organ meat, though, so it's going to taste way different.
It's straight up just cardiac muscle, right?
As opposed to fast twitch
or I don't know what other... skeletal muscle?
It's not like liver or something.
It's just a different muscle.
It's true, I suppose.
I've eaten chicken heart before.
Yeah, with the heart in particular, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've eaten chicken liver.
I like chicken liver.
I don't want it.
There's enough meat to go around.
Like this isn't the ancient times where it's like, we get the organs, that's all that's left over
because the clergy and
the nobility
has gotten all the good cuts.
I got a ribeye in the steak.
I'm going to fuck it in the fridge. I'm going to eat that.
Kyle, I don't think you'll make much of a Dothraki
then, just saying. No.
Certainly not. When she ate that
horse's heart. Animal would have.
He would have been leading that
fucking Dothraki horde
I want to say in the book they were very impressed she didn't gag
or throw up or something does that sound familiar to anyone else
yeah yeah it's a struggle to get it all down
yeah yeah but she did
she she excelled
no no gag reflex
in the Targaryen house
no silverware either apparently
I really wanted to be able to cut
that into some pieces and get some mustard
or something going on. Is that coming out
in 2018? Do we know?
I doubt it.
I would think 2019
spring.
It's weird to me that it takes
I don't know. Oh, excuse me.
Yes, it is. Game of Thrones
will be out next year. For some reason, I skipped all the way ahead
to Lord of the Rings.
Oh, right, right. That'd be the Amazon
thing that's coming up. Yes.
Game of Thrones 2018, you say?
I hope so. Are they filming now?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, because I want to see the end of that. I want to know how it
works out, as if we don't know. I guess I don't
know. I do know the good guys win and i'm pretty that wasn't always a certainty
now i think it is yeah maybe they do maybe they don't yeah maybe it was all a maybe like at the
the finale is like um martin waking up from a fevered ham dream and just be like, Oh shit. Oh, that was crazy.
Oh,
Ger Martin,
the author.
Yeah. Yeah.
He just wakes up in his mansion with like ham drool all over him.
And he's like,
Oh Jesus Christ.
He fell asleep while browsing the web for Mexican gastric bypass.
Yeah.
He's got like two or three of the female leads in bed with him.
They're like,
what's wrong girl.
You know,
it's something like that.
Like that,
that was influencing his dream. Like the actor who plays john stowe comes in as like a butler
or something like like he's just dreaming about people he knows it's a wizard of oz thing i like
it yeah yeah that might be better than what they do we'll see we will call it a wrap yeah yeah
all right uh pkn episode 172